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FTP Ep. # 162: NFL Wildcard Weekend Preview with ATS & DFS Picks

Fantasy Throwdown Podcast

33:51 min | 2 years ago

FTP Ep. # 162: NFL Wildcard Weekend Preview with ATS & DFS Picks

"Welcome to the fantasy Throwdown podcast bringing you the latest sports news fantasy analysis and opinions don't forget the hot takes and have Hort show without heartaches these days. What about hotcakes though, I want odd case? Now, here's your host ready to jump into the thick of things Dwayne calendar. Welcome to the show where everybody got lots of talk about because we've got NBA. And of course, the beginning of the NFL playoffs, obviously in the NBA the talk of the town and just basically the league in general is James harden. I mean harden again burying the warriors Thursday night with a forty four point ten rebound. Fifteen the sys- game including a game winning three pointer with Draymond green. And Klay Thompson draped over him. Obviously everyone's talking about how dominant harden has been this year. But we're getting a little bit crazy with of the talk because rockets GM Darrow Maury, basically said the following you can make you could argue for him as the best offensive player of all time. Let's be clear harden is having enough. Other MVP season well-deserved, he's gone off. He's averaging thirty three point two game. But let's be clear about the rationale behind. How those points are getting gathered harden is an expert at baiting teams into fouling him. He flops all the time any hooks people. I mean, it's not as though it's unwarranted because with the NBA rule changes that came into effect once David Stern get ticked off with the league product of watching the Spurs and pistons engage in a seven seven game series. That was a rock fight the entire way through over a decade ago. He made sure to get rid of hand checking in any other form of defense. You could play in the league at to make it a point guard driven leak, and he's gotten they've the NBA got what they wanted. I mean, harden true to form has actually perfected the. Size. I mean, you started seeing it with Steve Nash and in like an AI. But like teams have started to figure out if you can't you can't face guards on one. You can't you can't put your hands on them. And they're constantly jumping into you. Or in hardens case, they also have prevented you from being able to prevent them from driving to the hoop and also by giving them space. They could just do a step back three pointer right in your face. And there's nothing you can do about it. You know, at this point harden is actually in fact on guard -able because you will fell out of more contests. The more you try to challenge the only way to get hard and off his game right now is to just deny him the ball entirely and just become with the fact that you're going to give up to thirty plus points to the likes of Austin rivers for Gerald green. Because that's really what's going to take. You're going to have the deny hard on the ball as much as humanly possible. And just hope that the other guys don't absolutely crush you. Because at this point harness has scored forty points at five consecutive games and the elegance who actually do that in a league history are Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan and Allen Iverson in the past fifty years, again, this is a two guys in the modern era. And I and I gotta move it. I say an air 'cause I say the Jordan years again when you can actually play defense at hand check, folks, it's a different period NBA history. You have to take it into context as to how things are going. So I I would say in terms of the league right now you've got hard in doing things that no one else is doing because base off of the stats alone. Harden has now drained a hundred step back threes to season. Now, the guy in second place is one of my personal favorites. Luca Donncha who? Who is the NBA rookie of the year? It's not close but Donncha which is second both twenty eight. I I mean, again harden is just doing things that other guys the league are not able to do they don't have that kind of repertoire, so you know, hardened says it's a lot of hard work. And you have to gotta bloom because you know, he's he's kinda doing a similar motion of of setting up his offense in ways that, you know, realistically, you don't really see that much of because at that's what makes it so hard to defend against because not a lot of guys are have this kind of moves that he kinda uses that old man game on you. But you know, it is what it is. But. Yeah. Hardin right now is making an easy case for every p again this year. I would say genus is also right up there in obviously, you can make cases for LeBron as usual in quiet, Leonard up in Toronto, although qui- had a Ruutel. Welcome home back to San Antonio the other night, but I fully expect the raptors bounceback. But anyway, let's get into the NFL action. Coming up later today. Obviously, we had the wild card round in some interesting match ups to say, the least because I got look at this slate as a couple of games that, you know, the lines don't quite make a whole lot of sense. So I'll just kind of parse through it. And we'll take it from there. So the first game we've got the Houston Texans hosting. The Indianapolis Colts Texans are favored by. And depending on your the sportsbook. You're looking at it. They could be fair by one they could be fair by what have they could be favored by two points. But realistically, the Texas are not clue fail. Because usually when you see a line where it's less than three points. That means folks don't trust the home team in terms of the odds makers, and that's why the line too low to me. This is a clear case that the culture better team the Texans. I mean, the only reason why the line is favoring the Texas because the home team, and I'll get to another line that didn't quite make a whole lot of sense to me. But you know, the the long term of it is is that. You know what the Texans even though they came in with an eleven five record. They played one of the easiest schedules in the NFL, if not the easiest it depends on how you want to read out the actual strength of schedule a metric they they have different measures. But regardless of like, they're in the I would say bottom three or top three depending on how you look at it in terms of easiest schedules. I it really was a cakewalk. So the winning streak the Texans went on realistically there were all playing bound feeding team. So again making the playoffs should have been given for the squad. The problem is is that the way they got there still kinda shows a lot of that proud of the seem. I love the Shawn Watson don't get me wrong. But my issue with the semen I address it before I have severe doubts about the coaching ability Bill, Brian, and I have no confidence in this defense being able to show up, despite the fact. That they've got David on cloudy and JJ watt. This defense consistently struggles to get pass Russia's when they should be able to get a pass rush and the run stopping isn't really up to snuff as much as women like. So I still think that there's a a way for Marla MAC on the colts actually have a pretty productive day today. I'm not entirely sold on the Texans. Just from the standpoint of I think they can be hurt with screen games. And I think they can be hurt by the deep ball as well. And as I said the run game. Yes, it looks good in spots. But they've been gashed on the run at times this season two. So, you know, they're numerous factors here. But I definitely would be taking the culture. But the one thing I will say about this game is that this should be the highest scoring game of the weekend. I'll be slightly surprised if it doesn't end up being the high scoring game. It's got the highest point total at forty eight and a half. Half. I actually expect that total be over. I do think between these two teams they'll be able to air the ball out. And I have confidence that the Shawn Watson being able to find ways of getting the Android Hopkins. The ball, you know in the NFL the season Hopkins had over one hundred fifteen catches and zero drops. And yeah, maybe I just jinxed him, but the man just bawled out the entire year. And I just think that we're going to see a show between him and T Y Hilton today I- Hilton has torched the Texans in both matchups this year. I expect more of the same today. Realistically, the second. There is the weakest part of Houston St. fence and there's nothing about this game today. That tells me that the Texas have figured out a way of stopping Andrew luck the culture gonna throw the ball. We know this, and I do think between Marla MAC and. Name Himes the colts are gonna find success with the running game as well. So I just think that the colts are to balance on offense. And that's what carries them through to next round. You know, realistically, the NFL would be pushing for a colts cheese match. Just 'cause I mean, Andrew lucked versus a Patty is Patrick Mahomes. I mean that cell cells TV, right then and there I mean, there's no getting around it to obviously with Cosby and sixty they they would play the cheese outright. If they were to prevail today. And you know, if the Texans wind in their automatically locked into playing they're automatically locked into playing the patriots of should be interesting up. And we'll see we'll see how it goes today. But I'm curious. Curious to see how the Texas respond because you know, as I said, they have been perennial pretenders for a number of years. Now, this is the fifth time in eight years. The Texans have played the Saturday Saturday while car match up and each time the Texas find ways of looking even more pitiful than alas, and yes, I know their quarterback injuries in different excuses. You can label on it. But you know, at a certain point a team just has to step up and get it done. And that's really all. I'm looking for here. I'm looking for Texas actually, show me something that gives me a reason to believe in them moving. Thanks over to the nightcap. Obviously, we've got Seattle traveling to Dallas the Cowboys are a two point favorite which is surprising to me because you know, again, we've seen this time at the time. The Cowboys are better home team than row team. So to me. I understand why folks have conserved about the Cowboys showing up for certain games, but not at home at home. The Cowboys are actually a pretty well-balanced quad. The defense plays much better the offense place better. I I look at this as a game where the Cowboys should have been at three and a half point favorite just from a valuation standpoint. I would have to take the Cowboys in this spot. Not because I'm gonna bash Seattle, but you know, on the basis of both teams you get run heavy teams. Obviously Seattle has the edge in the quarterback battle with the outside throws, but you got to very good defenses. So I don't really see Seattle being able to generate enough offense to realistically give Dallas enough trouble down the stretch. Because the way you kind of beat the Cowboys as you kinda give them out of their element. So Seattle would have to force turnovers and be able to score points off of every turnover in order to put down in the spot where they're going to abandon the run game. You know to me. This is straightforward game of Dallas is going to run the ball Zeke. They're gonna play action and try to take a couple of shots down the field with Amari Cooper. They're macking of waste time. Trying to do the intermediate passing game. So as much as some folks would say, you know, if they use Kobe's Louis, I I really don't think that's it's going to be that kind of game plan for Dallas. I think they're really going to just kinda concentrate on. Giving Zeke as many carries as possible. And you know, try to move the needle that way. So they can they can open up some shots down the field against Seattle secondary. Which is very good. But Shaquille Griffin has been beat throughout season. So I think they're going to try to get a Samachar with Mark Cooper against a Griffin. So you know, in terms of the matchup itself, it's a forty three and a half line and outside of the colts sexist game. I think the recipes playoff games are going to go under typically have the scoring and playoff games drops off from the regular season usually get like one crazy wild card game. But more often, it tends to be more balanced in terms of the overall under numbers, and I have to lean towards a that. My mindset I just between the amount of runs that Dallas and Seattle will carry out the this evening. It's going to shorten the game up tremendously. And you're just not gonna have enough possessions by both squads to put up forty four points or more. I just look at this game where Dallas ekes out of victory by field goal in again with it being. A minus to spread. I just think that the valuation just works out a far better for Dallas it. It's it's hard to get off that line. Moving onto the Sunday matchups. We've got the ravens playing that host to the chargers. Who are? I mean in terms of teams that got screwed by the NFL the chargers really should be the ones complaining because you got the chargers flying from the west coast to play a one o'clock game Sunday in Baltimore why the chargers are playing Sunday early afternoon when they could have just taken one to Saturday. That's your guesses. Good as mine. I I don't know how they set up the TV money. I mean to me Dallas would have made more sense as the prime time match up on Sunday at four o'clock. And then you could have just had the chargers ravens play either that four clock a game on Saturday. And then you have. The eagles bears Saturday in you slide the Texans and colts too early early Sunday. But you know, I just don't I don't really get how the chargers ended up getting shorter the stickier because again, a one o'clock game on the east coast. It's going to be ten AM Pacific time terms their body collapses. It's just not really a fair ask a team, especially when you had more than enough time to set up these playoffs schedules to alleys balance it out for the rest of the squad's traveling. I mean, Seattle got the late night the evening game, slots it. It's just a it's a it's a rough draw in my opinion. If you're chargers fan, but. Be that as it may looking at the chargers ear they are three point underdogs to the ravens, you know, really tight game here, forty one and a half total. And I'm I'm kinda gauging this from the standpoint of. If Melvin Gordon were healthy. People would be more in favor of the chargers. And I know Baltimore came into San Diego played the tails off and just took it to the chargers and got the w I get it. I get it. There's nut. There's I'm not gonna dispute that the one concern. I have with Baltimore is the fact that they played a balance well as they could play against the chargers. Because again when you're playing against the offense. The ravens have with Lamar Jackson. It is very hard to prepare for. But the benefit that Baltimore has most teams as that under teams haven't really seen it. And so they couldn't prepare for the churches. I've seen it a ready in the past month. So it takes away the element of surprise. So I look at that as a as a game where he. You know, the chargers can find a way to steal this one and get the W just from the standpoint of I could see the chargers defense being more ready to go to stop the ravens rushing tight because even there I encounter. The ravens were not able to rush for two hundred yards against the chargers. Whereas they've been able to do that against every other squad this year. So again, I look at I look at the the match up here. And I just I don't necessarily see as much of an advantage for the ravens as other folks have done, and you know, one of the other things that I would say about this is the fact that you know, if we're if we're looking at the tale of Tate. It's still a bit of it's a it's a bit. It's a bit of a adjustment curve for the Ray is because you know, you got a rookie making his first playoffs. I in the Margerison. And you know, I don't really know if the ravens are going to be able to put up enough points to get it done against charges and blame me I'm well aware of Philip rivers choking in the postseason. You don't have to tell me twice about rivers choking in the postseason and finding ways of of losing losing out on on golden opportunities in the playoffs. But the one thing I'll say here is that usually the big the big choked up for that you see out of rivers at times in the postseason happens later on. Not in the wild card round. So he usually has a solid wildcard round. It's the subsequent matchups in the postseason that draws some concern top. I I look at this as a game where I think the chargers managed the economic dis- screams more of a twenty two seventeen kinda game. The me with charge prevailing, you know. I could end up being wrong. But I just looked at this case where the chargers find a way of getting it done and the under hits on this one. And finally, we have the matchup that that made people were expecting a couple of weeks ago, but it's the bears hosting the defending Super Bowl champion. Philadelphia. Eagles. The eagles have been an absolute mess this season with Carson Wentz Inada line of with injury. You got Nick foles who couldn't look who can move the ball down the field to save his life to begin the year. All of a sudden has turned a light switch on and has been somewhat passable. At least Nick foles is still an average at best QB my opinion, and it can only play one system in terms of getting the ball out of his hands and vertically down the field. He can't do any other NFL systems. But for the purposes of this matchup, we have to consider the fact that every single wide receiver on the bears is dealing with some type of injury. And we may have Allen Robinson cleared to go. We may have Tele Gabriel to clear to go. But as it in Miller's banged up. You've got. Got a budget injuries. Among the wide receivers for the bears from catchy standpoint, you're looking at three Cohen because during Howard's, you know, he's a couple balls. But it's still not his natural natural position. If going off of the game tape, and you know, Trey Burton has been in and out in and out and in and out of the office of game plans week after week this season. So he'll go weeks at a time without catching the pass. And that's just the way it goes. Now, I looked this game. As a case where Phillies should lose this game. But I don't see enough out of the bears where they're absolutely planning on taking taking a this matchup and rolling on into the into the postseason. The bears come across as more happy that thing. It worked out this year. But they never really made a true commitment to the squad to improve the offense significantly with some digital free agents outside of Robinson and Burton now. At the end of the day. The bears are always going to hang their hat on their defense. But I have to say that you know, I really do see the bear struggling to put up a ton of points against philli. So this is the kind of match up where again, I would not be surprised if this was a twenty seventeen game. But the issue is that. From. Every metric the bears offense is so hot and cold that I would not be shot if Philly holds the bears Sunday, twenty points and at that point. It's a crapshoot because you know, Philly is going to try to push the ball down the field. You don't know if they're going to get penalty calls, and that's always the mic. So again, I would say look to see how the referees are calling pass interference mar because that's gonna play a big role as to how the bears were able to play their defense. So if it's getting called tie, you definitely could see some. Some concerns on the bear sideline as to what they should do next. Because again, I've seen Matt Nagy cost the bears multiple games this year for decisions that were head scratchers. But on the the whole folks are happy because the bears have been winning games this year. I just look at it. As more of a reflective talent. That's currently on the squad rather than the actual ad coach himself, but we shall find out as we progress further and to the playoffs because it is an interesting mix games, I have to admit, then, you know, even with making a making a case for these teams. You know, I could say that there is a path for them to each reach Super Bowl a gets difficult at times. But I I do feel as though you should have some competitor. Games throughout the playoffs this weekend. So we'll see how the games go today and also tomorrow. So in terms of the DFS lineups. Let's get into those quickly fit being a four-game slate. It's really hard to kind of mess around with the lineup. So you gotta have a kind of clear picture in your mind as to how you wanna go with certain rows because it is extremely limited given the player pool size this weekend. So on both draft kings fan though, I think the number one play a QB this week. We get weekend. Rather is Andrew lock, you know, I can't really find another excuse not to play him. He's eighty four hundred on fan dole sixty four hundred draft kinks. You know, the only other play you can really go with at and just say that value is you're you're gonna get more bang for your buck is trying to play Watson and see if the Texans can get a couple of big hitters against the colts defense, but outside of that, you know, those are the top two place the other the other guys, you know, I'll probably play a few lineups. What you Bisky, but those are just more differential shots just to separate myself for a pack a base off of the core. Bill that I have in mind more than anything else. It's it's. It's not indicative of. Where I'm getting value add to anywhere else in the lineup. So Accu be it's it's going to be concentration of that the Indy Houston game, and then a little side. Sideline a few sideline with Trubisky. But that's about it as a one off. But. Have running back. This is Zeki Lally week. I mean, you can get cute and try to fade Dc. But you know, odds are you're going to have to have Zeke in your lineup. He's eighty eight hundred on Faneuil draft kings. He should be running at around nine grant. And you know, it set it in forget, it, you know, I I was trying to find another way of going about it. The only other play you can try to do if you were due to premium player is Melvin Gordon as differential and fades Zeke by using Gordon instead and try to zig or other guys zagging. But I just think it's too cute of a play. If I was going to do that. I would rather just lineup of Zeke and Melvin Gordon and just pay up at running back because I there are. Some cheap wide receiver options to go with. So that's where I would be leaning towards from a fantasy perspective at the wide receiver spot, again just piling on from what I said earlier on the the over undertows the play here is t y Hilton in the Andre Hopkins so wanted to, but I'm going to be playing both of them together to me, it just makes a bunch of cents e-. You get more bang for your buck out of these two than pretty much any other combo on the slate today and use you hope for the shootout, but you know, realistically trying to play somebody's at our options. Yes, I I know you can play Amari Cooper. But you know. It's not exactly an easy place. So I could easily see folks fading Cooper. And I wouldn't have a problem with it. Just because I know that it's tough to kind of get their times. You know, he's he's going to run you sixty seven hundred on fan dole. And then all draft king. So Mark Cooper's certify hundred. So again, some of these price points, it's really hard dealing with some of the the receiver prices because I don't like key now in this week, the ravens secondary's very stout at it's going to be hard for him to get open. Early and often, plus, you know, Doug, Baldwin, even though he's been creeping up the ladder turfs of production at Disney, you know, that doesn't necessarily mean he's immediately getting offers something once ease at it doesn't mean Doug ball was going to be offered up a special kind of treatment from Russell Wilson. Just because you know from standpoint of Dallas defense, they're not gonna roll over any additional coverage to lifestyle lock. It's gotta be straight up play play defense and then have safety over the top. You know, it just doesn't come across. As though there's going to be any easy points front of wide receiver spot. That's why I would rather just pay up for Hopkinton Hilton. Because I know they're going to get the volume, and then you can go cheap with the likes of Dontrelle Inman KiKi not do. New even deandre Carter on the Texans. But you know, you gonna have to find money somewhere. And I just think that the best bought to do it is at the wide receiver position. Just because there's so many options there that are gonna be putting up points, but are near men pricing to make these builds work and obviously at the end. You know, you could you could say what you want about tight end. A it's just been an absolute mess this year and will continue to be. So I would just say, you know, plays a Zacher, and, you know, hope for the best because there there's now a whole lot else left. I mean, yes, you can do a dark throw on the likes of jig jar win. I mean Blake jar win. Or Trey Burton, you know, EIB. Ron's going to be popular to play. But I I just feel as though if you're paying up for culture, it's gotta be t y Hilton Nadi Brun, but you know, times could change it folks Jj their mind to that's that's recommendation. I would give you now in terms of defenses. I like both the colts defense and the Philly defense why because from a pricing standpoint, they're both extremely cheap of the colts our men pricing on the fan Doolan Yahoo. And I love their pricing. Just from the standpoint of it's it's a case where the Shawn Watson is playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL this year, and they just see boatload of Saxe. At least two sacks game. They've allowed and. It's tough. Gaining credibility with a rep that is that it just more. Is just when you deal for an office line that bad. I in the though that type of reputation, you know, they're going to give up sacks or holding penalty. So I just look at it. As a case where you know, there's not a whole lot of downside to plane the colts defense this weekend. And it gives you a little bit more salary to work around with and brings some folks into. We'll see how that plays out as well this year. But the yeah, it's it's definitely a coming to head here. With somebody's matchups games. I really feel. So in terms of these DFS torments gonna be a case where it's it's a split pot. I I'm struggling to think of how someone's going to have unique enough lineup unless they just play one hundred and fifty lineups and just use lineup deviations between them hit the jackpot on one of these plays with a random player getting a touchdown. But. That's the way I kind of look at the slate. And you know, you ready her my pick. So we'll see how things pan out. But enjoy the games today. Everyone and have a good one.

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Luck Retirement Fallout + Bold Predictions

The Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

1:07:33 hr | 1 year ago

Luck Retirement Fallout + Bold Predictions

"All right fantasy footballers is brought to you by head and shoulders and walmart n._f._l. Fans always love arguing. Whether offense wins the game or is a defense you know oh i think offense head and shoulders is great offense for your hair andy wrong henry shoulders as great defense for the flakes on no matter where you fall on the debate bait head and shoulders will give you a hundred percent flake free scalp fine head and shoulders on walmart dot com a- as long as steen option dot com studios with your host sandy holloway jason moore and mike right <music> welcome in welcome in an of people's fantasy tour concludes tonight. Yes it does right here in phoenix what's going on now. We have last year in phoenix. We did this show. We brought out some bold predictions. We're doing it again tonight. I've got a good one for the top of the show it's too. It's too hot when we throw them out on this show. You think there's no way that this could possibly happen but it just might just might happen. We'll get right into the quick question. We have a great one there as well but i have to hit this button breaking news. Uh well what's today. Is this shows being recorded on the single busiest easiest draft day of the entire year yeah good thing everything's stay status. Quo andrew lock the twenty nine year old quarterback. The indianapolis colts has retired. What a world yeah. We're getting some anybody's this news broken about an hour before we started this show. Is there anybody in the audience. That didn't know until just now. I'm sorry it was in the back. I go to andrew look in the twelfth. It was crazy just dropping aw come up we updated our ultimate draft. Getting somebody sent me a note and they screen shot at it and see down down down down to all the coulter down and he said is there. Is there colts news. I don't know about just a gut feelings to cut. We've got real good intuition so we're starting with breaking news news. We'll circle back to the quick question. Let me read you. The physical toll on andrew lucked six years torn cartilage in two ribs porcelain partially torn abdomen lacerated rated kidney one can caution torn labrum and then this mysterious calf slash teeny tiny bone injury new own new bone but this is the most shocking rocking thing to happen in the n._f._l. And in fantasy football in as long as i can remember i can't think of another thing you know this close to the season for a player to retire and not just like a player isn't like oh the journeyman right guard ryan is hat finally hangs them up. No this is andrew luck. This was early in the offseason prior to the calf injuries. The colts were my super bowl. Pick their tickets looking right now. Look i just i'm gonna i'm gonna this is a bold insult. Obey event old prediction show. I'm going to right now right here. Predict superstar. I don't think it comes through. I don't think the colts win. The super bowl anymore spicy beyond andrew lock who went from not playing in two thousand seventeen to comeback player of the year thirty nine touchdowns last season two now retiring t. y. Hilton marla mac name hines airing hebron what happens now. I think it's pretty rough you know in in truth when i updated my rankings as insane as it is. The only person even looks like they could be value for the colts in my reading. He's is actually oh yes sir jacoby beef brisket jacoby but i mean we had to dig through the volt as all. I know that's real andy. I know we disagree on the outlook for t._y. T. y. hilton and i now have as in a half point scoring as my wide receiver twenty-seven so he's not a relevant. He's still going to be a fantasy there. Were there were like audible moans and and grounds when you said that yeah i mean i it stinks you. Take a guy who has from my dynasty to be oh man. I remember having him yeah. You hilton hilton twice in his illustrious career. Twice has been under the thousand yard mark once was his rookie season and once was the year that that he played the entire year without andrew luck. Yeah it's not good. It's not good for t. y. Hilton as a player that can lead the lead lead the league in yardage edge with a quarterback. We both move jacoby set to the swanee range at the quarterback position based on what we think you can do. I think he was the best backup in the league arguably but you're going from a top five quarterback to any at best and this is unfortunate now. The situation for jacoby perset isn't the same that it was in twenty wants better different coaching staff. I mean you've spent most of your love frank and then in two thousand seventeen. He was pressured on forty percent of drawbacks. That's the sixth highest number in the league so a better offensive line trying to find a silver lining for somebody but marlon brando max breakout season goes out the window. Most likely you're not on the goal line. You're not moving the football. Marlin mac is the player that is the most. I single handedly. He is affected the largest because this is a player who's not pass catching back. This is a player who dominated in the games where he was winning this. This was a player who if you look at the game splits in games where they won by wide margins mac dominated as he was running out the clock he had touchdown opportunities. He is a perfect back for an andrew luck lead colts and he's not aback that i would believe in as much and with him so he was almost a my guy dodge that bullet you should've known i mean we all knew andrew. Luck yeah yeah yeah so i mean he's a guy that now is like rb thirty for me. I'm not <hes> if you're drafting being right now this week a._d._p. Doesn't matter you need to use the rankings like if you if you've got the ultimate draft kit and you're you know our rankings are now updated in that use those versus a._d._p. For as the wind should i take marla mac because none of the a._d._p. Is going to make any sense in your home leagues. Do you expect any of these calls to drop to the point point where they are going to be drafted. Values look there. You both moved helton lower than i did. I have eighteen now i moved to i moved him down. He he finished his year with it was under a thousand but he was almost there however when you look at how he got there it was four huge games. What's great those four weeks for spectacular predictable but you had to play him every single week to get those four weeks. The one player where i did nothing to his is stat projection. There was a player in in two thousand seventeen hundred eight targets eighty receptions. Now is the man with those baby hands jack doyle find a way to make this good for jack doyle now. I'm just saying we have we have. We're saying hey targets smaller handed men right. Maybe maybe that's what he's attracted attracted to or maybe it's that he just is like up jack doyle take the ball. We're gonna circle. There'll be ramifications for this andrew. Luck situation that go well beyond this show. We'll talk about it throughout the next couple of weeks and into the season look. I do want to throw out one one quick name. I know it's it's it's deeper. It's an dynasty league first of all. If you're on a dynasty league pick up to kobe percent. Don't don't just let the andrew luck owner. Get them for free. Okay glenn make it cost money or or get him for yourself <hes> <hes> but if you're in a deep league and you gotta trash bench chad kelly is like jacoby percents of very good backup but chad kelly name you might not be familiar with is a great quarterback who i believe has the potential to be a great quarterback who has been just a terrible human being and it it has. Let's just say he's had poor decisions sir so you want to see you want them to make the good decision to put him on their dynasty. What's up to you but take a little peek ski all right. We'll circle back to this quick question before before we get to that. I do want to give it up for saint jude this entire. We're very very very proud to be partnering with saint jude children's research hospital throughout this entire tour. All of our proceeds from this event here in phoenix are going straight to saint jude. They've been an incredible partner. You guys know a dollar from every ultimate draft. Get straight to saint jude's so appreciate their support were proud to be partners and then we wanna thank pristine auction. They've sponsored this tour as well and they've been great. Partners were given away this autographed david johnson helmet at the end of this this show and he he looked pretty good today the s. looking up. I swing the pendulum back a little bit. No i kept him where it was still top five. Here's six i dunno. We're going back to the well on this quick question. We asked it here last year best player player analogy for twenty nine hundred so simple your your best play last year. I compared sam bradford to oh you and i you nailed it but listen. I respect you. I'm i'm not going back to that well. I'm not going to do that again and obviously joy bell retired so i don't have a player comp at me and see innocent still out there. I compared him to professional running back but what's your player. Analogy may all right. I'll set the table here. I how many guys how many your father's out here. How many dads do we got on the crowd so most of you also have dads as well. That's that's kind of how it works but here's the thing yes you're talking to me. I haven't hit it yet personally but there's a day in every father's life where he loses an arm wrestling to his son and that day you go. You got me this time son. You're tussle his hair. You say how proud you are of the man he's becoming but in your heart you think that was once that was just that was just a one off but authentic starts to eat you inside new they and then joking if it's not like you jokingly while some. We've got a rematch because that was garbage. I was was on five hours of sleep bob. Let's go and then you arm wrestle and you lose again and then you bring up something else. You say let's race and you lose the race because once you have lost to your son you never win again. You're going in different directions on the aging scale as the father. You may say i just got this awesome new job and now i'm weak making way more money than you but it doesn't matter because you're not going to score more fantasy points because your son is james connor and the father is levy on bell who has been surpassed by his son. James aims connor. I like i like it. I don't i don't know if all three of us agree but i do a great option. I just like the despite the fact that on different teams now you still are pinning them firmly against one on another look back yeah. No bells not going to look at every single box score of james connor. You probably will bring it. He's he's going to bring it to adam gays and say <hes> james connor got seven targets this week. I got three. What's going on here all right so i'm gonna bring up another former former steeler and i'm going to take that. I'm going to say remember that super bowl how ping antonio only oh brown is the wizard of oz because holon though wizard. He is the wizard zirkin okay in the wizard of he's the wizard of oz. Here's here's now. He's the wizard. Hold on hold on okay. Let's just make sure to make sure you get it. Antonio brown right wizard is the same but in ause ause all right were there tony brown the wizard of oz. Here's how you've all seen the movie the wizard of oz this unbelievably powerful you know someone has if you haven't seen the wizard of what's wrong with you the as you you need to do a little a little update on your <hes> movie watching in time so the wizard is this all powerful unbelievable being of a magic that can grant any wish there all the i i mean he's just so good just like you antonio brown the number one wide receiver in football for so long. He's the best but then eventually we get to look inside signed the curtain and he's a crazy person. You peel back to proving go. Oh this dude just some maniac pulling levers going nuts talking out of his butt that riding around in a hot air balloon little hot air balloon making crazy demands right like you bring me there which is brewed stick. You give me my old helmet but here's the thing here's the thing for fantasy in the end. Even though the wizard was a crazy person he look he got the job. Done dorothy got home. The lion got his courage tim me and has in the scarecrow had a brain. I think antonio joanie o. Brown is a crazy person. That's going to be just fine football. It's going to get the job done if he's dropping third round. Scoop them up that went for me thinking you were out on him to accommodate all the way back around. Fantasy wise is very pretty talented. Crazy just like the wizard nothing to see here all right well. That was incredible. You won't be able to follow it but we're out here in arizona. How do feel outside today. Adam gates outside not a safer word bro not nice outside. If you're in arizona you spend five seconds outside much less work out there. Go for a walk. Walk to your car from the mall. Whatever you do in arizona it's hot. You're thirsty. You're parts. You need a drink. Drink you turn to your friend. You say hey toss me a refreshment aaron. Jones is a frozen water bottle. You know what it can do. You know that you want that thirst quenched. You want that refreshment for your fantasy team but you can't do anything with it. Maybe you wait a little while. Maybe weight and you get a couple. It drops week to week five a couple of drops here and there unlike my colleague. I don't find it a point in his favor that he's playing on the team that ran the ball. The least of every team in football and matlock floors supposed to be the savior except for he's historically run the least amount of plays of any team in football over the last couple of years. I love aaron jones. I know the refreshment. He could be for my fantasy team but i'm afraid i'm not going to get very often here and there but that's why i think he's frozen water bottle. Here's the thing about the frozen water bottle halfway halfway through the day in arizona now a refreshing water arnold already dead all right. Let's get into the rest of the news news notes from around the league presented vice labor. I mean we're with you on this. Andrew lucked situation and all this breaking news six exc game tonight. We came in thinking that the headline was carry on johnson lost his center for a couple of weeks for recent news. I don't normally have my phone out. I've gotta have my phone app today. Because what else is going to have homes. What's going to happen. Lamar miller in previous top headlines lines yeah lamar miller card from saturday's preseason game against the cowboys left leg injury. Some of you've seen the replay. Some haven't ah i won't watch it is bad. It's not good all indications adam schefter tweeted. It looks they believe a._c._l. Tear there are the people that drafted andrew luck and lamar miller today. Oh and that's why we say draft as late as possible. Yeah i mean in your draft. Go ahead and wait until after week three of preseason to do you're drafting but here we are lamar miller likely gone for the season houston favorites in division even more so now and what do we do. They have duke johnson. Do they have their hockey dot dot dot yes. Oh for the people well home listening. The phoenix crowd arches yelling names of whoever they want to go to houston melvin. Gordon carlos lied shawn mccoy. Someone yelled andrew luck. Adrian peterson should be out andrew luck. This just go get marlin mac. There's here's the thing do johnson's a pretty good running back. Yes him holding up them. Turning the reins over to permanently only doesn't seem likely but today people are drafting people are thinking about what duke johnson is for the rest of the season. I had a couple of leagues right took them with you. Know last round picks in the last round. Pick almost dropped him for somebody else but now what is he for fantasy owners and do you expect liked them to bring another name in like ajay gye to have to they have to do johnson is not a big enough. What about josh ferguson that low josh ferguson notable buddy how it's like buddy that we were going to do that. You don't know the so very well yeah exact- oh sorry <hes> yeah look and mary tyler moore's not getting done either so the the reality is they have to bring someone now. Are they going to be able to trade for adrian peterson. Everyone wants him to go. Get melvin gordon. Yes that would be delightful. That'd be awesome the more that i think about it. I can't imagine that happening. They don't have g._m. They can make a trade like they traded for duke johnson. You call bill but do you call bill and you say hey bill. You're sexy rexy now bill bryan oh he's the d._a. He sees where he is the g he worked to do johnson trade right but but they didn't have to restructure a contractor and right now melvin gordon's contract is it's not happen easy or going well to restructure so i can't imagine them getting the deal done without a g._m. For melvin gordon but i do i think they have to bring someone in g._s._i. So when i look at duke johnson he's someone you have to pick up. You have to draft if he's if he's falling right now. He looks valuable but i do temper my expectations -tations because i think he can't be a guy that comes out and gets two hundred thirty carries. He's he's never had more than one hundred and four carries and that was his rookie season. He's never had more than three hundred seventy nine rushing yards now that that doesn't say that duke johnson can't do it look at damian williams exactly it just says that combined with their depth chart they are. They have to make a move as as a contending team that they're goal is the super bowl. Their goal is not. We hope we win the division. Their goal is to win the super bowl. They have to add a running back time miss <music>. I'll i'll miss alfred blue. Oh said noah that's the most likely outcome. Is somebody like alfred. I mean carlos hyde darwin thompson daryl williams damian williams all played ahead of them. Follow sides probably not going to make the roster. That's the kind of player that's gonna come in and screw up high hopes for duke johnson with i mean they're willing to give alfred blew the ball but but still i asked asked as like right now so this is saturday night monday. It could be a way different thing but right now from drafting tonight. I'm willing to take the seventh round gamble full on what duke johnson could be. We also know that pass catching is in his profile not that shawn watson has historically pass to the running back very much but we know that cam newton didn't pass to the running back very much until he had a guy who was fantastic at that he had that skill set so i'm still going to take the gamble of what duke johnson could be even though i in in my heart. I believe that carlos hyde shady mccoy j._j. One of those guys is going. They come in and kind of rain on the parade. All right we will talk more pre season thoughts from week three the remainder of the games some takeaways on her next next show two quick ones though i might as well hit this dede westbrook john de filippo best route runner he's ever around off. Your arms just stops if feel like he's actually complimenting. You might little bit a little bit. Does it the timing wing of the breakout of duty westbrook in that preseason game. They were something special still feel very good about deal. Yes yes. I feel very confident. That dede westbrook is going to be a c._p._r. Machine frank gore rushed eight times for fifty seven infinite. He is all his gore gore. I mean uh dudes duties fifty years old playing running back and here's what's great who doesn't lose that arm wrestling man yeah order. Gordon never loses he. If you didn't see the preseason game he had this he breakaway run. He looked great. He goes goes out of bounds. Another defender comes in illegal flagged shot murders. His knee just looks exactly like lamar miller. The foot is planted in the in the turf and he has to go off. He's injured five minutes laters back there. Look a beast of course is busy because he has the infinity stones. It's rubbed it on his knee and he's good to go but it does but it does. Bring me into your circle. No i don't think bring cores rostrum but it does. I'd say that shady is looking very good. He is the clear back. Frank gore appears to be the secondary option which just a little bit of cold water for this season for redraft leagues on devon single terry breaking into fantasy relevance fair enough thoughts all right that was <hes> today's news and notes brought brought to you as always by the sleeper app which was almost completely. Does your news you better have the sleeper up a foot clan. We we wanna thank longtime supporter and sponsor and maker of awesome razors harry's for help and support the show a lot of guys are traveling this summer and you're buying disposable razors but look you don't have to sacrifice quality for price you can join the ten million who have traveled leveled and tried harry's harry's delivered high quality travel friendly shave supplies at a great low price just two dollars per blade. They literally bought a factory in germany just to make sure that they can manufacturer at a great price with a great played this summer. 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Oh we got a rhythm up for the next limestone like peter pan at a at a theater so just album crass this courts out of order now bold predictions that means they're guaranteed to come. I'm true right. Oh yeah that's what makes them so bold. That's why they will be reflected perfectly in our rankings. We'll get there sir all right who wants to go first with a ridiculously bold prediction pony nineteen. The beginning of the end should start at the beginning getting we'll. We'll get around to but i'll kick it. Oh okay. I'll kick it off era. Go juju smith schuster. A star has been born. He's going supernova well just in a way not in a literal way the scientists typically because that would be like the end gened do schuster finishes this season as the number one wide receiver in fantasy football see. Here's the thing i was asked weeks ago. I was asking people like can i even do that because even legal. I don't even feel like spicy like he has such good odds of finishing at the number one wide receiver position. Here's here's how much vegas odds. I feel like when he was passed on his numbers that i saw he was like doing alex rodriguez with the mir. I is this a spicy. Take jason no and then he gave himself a smooch yeah. You're darn right high five and a little kiss on the mirror every morning. That's my team. Here's the thing first of all there's a couple of reasons. Why believe this. He has a quarterback that can do it. He has the targets the touchdowns those those three reasons are why he's going to be able to look big. Ben big been over the last six seasons. Five seasons has averaged forty eight hundred yards and thirty the two touchdowns. That's his sixteen game pace over the last half decade now. Antonio brown is gone in crazy. He's gone but remember. His fantasy finishes four to three. These are his ranks on the season one one that means i i six. He is obviously everyone talks about antonio. Brown is the goat of this last decade. He is great and i'm not trying. Take anything away from brown but i am saying that ben rothlisberger factually can support eight talented wanted wide receiver to become the number one. We know that without like that's the not up for debate. He's done it twice and every year atop six option so he's already got the quarterback into that can focus on him then you look at touchdowns and this is really what it comes down to for me you. If you wanna finish at number one in wide receiver you have to have double digit touchdowns in fact you're talking about twelve point six touchdowns per season over the last five years ears tyreek hill two thousand eighteen twelve touchdowns hopkins thirteen touchdowns jordi fourteen touchdowns antonio brown twice ten and thirteen and two marys areas thomas fourteen touchdown. I miss you and i know right. You have to score a bunch of touchdowns so who can get that high who out there obviously hopkins could davante adams can do it. Yeah tyreek hill can do it back. I'm evan second. Mike evans can get up there with with with touchdowns but but julio julio probably not michael thomas probably not antonio brown with derek carr probably not obviously do could because of big ben do had seven been touchdowns last year and was tackled within the two yard line five times. I mean that's already twelve and now you have fifteen vacated vacated touchdowns from antonio brown but i get it. You're like well. He can't go yeah vance dance. I the vacated touchdowns custody has made me think advance. I love it. I love it. He'll get his two. I'm not saying he gets fifteen more touchdowns juju but why not but this is the bold prediction twenty two you total touchdowns. You heard it here. I i know for a fact. I've been around you far too often. I've heard this percolating in you for months. Stay where you just believe that juju could hint up number one these which is not something that i believe he's super delicious. He's super talented super reportedly. He is super talented and the thing is you go well. He can't go up from last year. He had one hundred sixty six targets whereas you're gonna go well antonio brown over the last five years. Here's averaged one hundred eighty-one target. I see you wrote in here so yes. He can thank you in making you as to me. No oh you fell into the trap. You said yes he can forget to say yes. He can ask so. Yes juju smith schuster twenty nine hundred wide receiver the number one okay mic europe. Oh all right austin actor finishes two thousand nineteen eighteen as top twelve running back. Yes yes someone drafted austin clerk at. We're on the same team. We all know the situation for austin actor melvyn gordon. He's a little bit disgruntled. In here's this uh-huh we we don't know for sure how long can melvin gordon hold out. Contractually it might be eight games. It might be ten games james. Let's say that he holds out ten games. The los angeles chargers at that point. Maybe there in the playoff hunt maybe they aren't aren't but maybe a player comes back and even though he can help the team the team says screw. You aren't coming back as the starting running back. You are now behind our starting running back. That's official legally. That's what they would put in the document. I'm just taking the stroll down narrative street man's the storefronts are lovely. You should join me every once in a while. Austin is a good player great pass catcher second and in yards after the catch last year third in yards per reception fifth in yards per target can the can the team like the worry. Oh melvin gordon gone the los angeles chargers. They're not good okay games with gordon. The average twenty seven points a game. How many points did they average in the four games. That gordon missed. I twenty seven points. Similar number was fine games without gordon including the win. Gordon went down with the injury echo. Equa averaged seven point seven five targets game almost eight targets a game eleven carries. You're talking nineteen opportunities. Ah game for austin eh eh cler. He scored a rushing touchdown in two of those four games where melvin gordon was gone. Austin is the starting running back for this team. Short could shakeout that justin jackson eats into now. It's a fifty fifty timeshare your banking on ecuador scoring anyway right. I mean that's well. I mean that's not the key need to pass catching volume that touches for laura far more important. You're not looking at him. Like legare blunt has to fall into the end zone to give value. We just did our top ten tips and tricks. When i talked i highlighted top ten running baragan. They always have fifty or more receptions and there's usually two wildcards who sneak in austin fits that bill l. he melvin gordon is gone for the majority of the season he will easily easily see more than fifty receptions and it's not like this team with philip. Rivers hasn't seen a small small running back. A small stature guy have success member danny woodhead off the heart stone the original the original just at the end of the year. It just kept popping up as a running back one each year you go wise danny woodhead here. Austin ecuador could be the new danny woodhead. There are always a couple every year james white rico so in last year with gordon seven games inside the top twenty four. It's interesting and it. The weird thing is keenan allen. I mean right now. We think he's fine roy. The draft in a mike is fine but if that injury cropped up you already lost tyrel mike williams isn't necessarily a volume type of receiver no more antonio gates. It's interesting that target's old probably wrong but very interesting. We're here to hold his spicy and i love it all right. I'll give you mine. The atlanta falcons will have a player finished inside the top twelve at every single fantasy football position so in twenty seventeen. There were two teams that did it last year two teams. It was kansas city. It was pittsburgh right right correct out to big ben again. Oh yeah i've heard this prediction before because you made it on this show last year but you picked the wrong team. You're like an over four but the falcons. I don't think anybody debates the merits of matt ryan being in the top twelve well get. I'm just saying i do not stand out ryan twelve of sixteen weeks last year. Matt ryan was in the top twelve finished just on that week alone. I'm told that's good. Yes pretty decent because you're the year at the top of the position so i don't want to get into what we don't have time for it or you will l. deal with it in counseling. <hes> julio jones you wanna debate that went to no he's. He's gonna be in so then. You're really talking about devante onto freeman who's being drafted at rb fifteen right now climbing into the top twelve. You have to bank on health with devante freeman which is not. You don't really want to have to do that but the last two times yet full sixteen game seasons he was well within that range he was at thirteen rb thirteen when he played a shortened two thousand seventeen season fourteen gene game still finished at rb thirteen. The competition behind devante freeman is it's almost as bad as it is behind duke. John says we add as he does smith and we are. You know where we are with these three. We're in lockstep now. The players the kids yeah now you have to talk about austin hooper which is not fun to talk about. No hoover wakes up in the morning. He goes into the bathroom and there's a picture of jason waiting in the corner of the mirror now and that's a great aspiration right today whitten today. It's crazy awesome who has been really really jason whitney as in fine fine as in dozen throughout the season on a consistent basis just kind of find himself in that top range. He actually has the best reception percentage of any tight end in football. Since the start of two thousand sixteen seventy seven percent of the ball thrown his way he catches them last year he had six weeks where he finished inside inside the top seven at the tight end position so it's never been sexy to play austin hooper and it never will be just like jason win but i think he can climb his way and that's why i think the falcons could have four of them in the top off. I think that's good all right now. Let's talk about a great prediction and gone wrong. This would be my my prediction last year. The beginning of the end for the new england patriots needs. I apologize. I apologize the beginning of the end for the super bowl champion new england patriots last last year so they did. They are the superbowl champion so here's the thing as to why i say is great is great hall okay. I i remember we victory. Remember when you jason moore said that yes so here's the thing the reason this whole thing started every year. I predict my fantasy team that i think is overdraft. Overdraft that is going to bus for bansi. It's twenty sixteen. It was the carolina panthers cam and kelvin benjamin. We're going way too high. They both failed on the season twenty seventeen eighteen terrell pryor the washington redskins yet terrell pryor jordan reed jamison crowder rob kelley all going six and ahead and they pretty much all busted did that year last year was the patriots because of the patriots took the narrative street that is the beginning of the end whoops but for fantasy gronk doc was in the second hogan was in the fourth. Josh gordon was in the fourth brady was in the fifth and rex burkhead was in the sixth. They busted. They were not good so for fantasy. The bowl prediction of you don't want to draft these players right. So my team is here. You will not like what i have to say. You are correct at all. I get people love this team and i'm gonna take dome pony. The cleveland blend brown so sorry everyone's news sweetheart but look andy. You said you said right the last couple years there's only been two teams that have had a quarterback running back a wide receiver a tight end finish in a- as a one well that the cleveland browns right now are being drafted that way. I mean in baker shove and beckham. They're all being drafted to finish as one one. Now is the cleveland browns if for them to return value. The only way that they return value is that they are a great offense and now i'm i'm not saying they can't be a great offense like i love baker. This hurts me because bakers bigger will be such a cool best friend joe. Yes you would multi baker but but baker's being drafted as the fourth quarterback he has not proven anything yet odell beckham on a new team and when i was going through the top ten <hes> tips and tricks lists about avoiding risk in the first round. I realized that the last two years the same guys being drafted in the first round. That's busted both years. It was odell beckham. He has not been a model of health. These played fewer games than sammy watkins and they were drafted in the same year. Nick chubb is a great deal and he it looks unbelievable. Kareem hunt is coming back this season and he he played last season. I mean he was the running back eleven. I'm just saying there's a lot more risk like they are. The sexy mayor the anti austin hooper like everyone wants to get on board with the coolness of baker myself included but as a fantasy analyst like oh they haven't done it yet. They have a head coach. That's unproven. They have an organization that has historically mismanaged navy top division. They have a tough divis- take you under saying. I think browns earned my like. They're overpriced end so just aware figure out the super bowl bats right now as you might with all on the browns because maybe the win the super bowl and you'll be right if they win the super super bowl just wait for next year steam and bad big bet the cardinals over and over for my sake all right. We're going to do our live malay. Speaking of cardinals were in phoenix arizona three. You should probably let me finish. We are three children of the of the valley of the sinus. We are die hard arizona cardinals fans we charles for life. We wear it on her sleeve. I know that ah there. There's some other jersey sprinkled throughout here but you heard it. We are mostly in arizona carl country. We're excited. We're very excited for the arizona cardinals else. We're not gonna win the super bowl this year. I'm sorry to break into. Everybody and i have to preface my bowl prediction with that because it kind of will hurt. It's it's inter divisional cooper. Comp is going to lead the league in touchdown receptions. Cooper up has only played in twenty three of the possible thirty two games that he has been in since he's been in the league in that time he has the seventh most red red zone receptions that he has ten in broken tackles and he is sixth in yards after catch of qualified wide receivers cooper cub is really freaking good last year. He basically played full snaps in five games five. He was on pace to score twelve touchdowns in the he is. He's on an unbelievable offense. He is the primary red zone option in the last two years ears. Jared goff has thrown forty six touchdowns in the red zone. That's the most in the league five and a half red zone attempts per game for jared gov. That's right there with tom. Brady andrew lock our yes rest in peace and patrick mahomes still so crazy. It's it's real fresh but here we are. We have to move on goober cup. It's i i. It's crazy for me to be endorsing horsing this player who's coming off of an a._c._l. Tear but two thousand nineteen is apparently it just a wild year with android tiring emmanuel sanders returning from an injury that nobody returns from and cooper cup enter training camp all systems go and has looked nothing but spectacular encamp todd. A girl has forty six touchdowns in the last four years for the rams including seventeen last year thirteen the year prior. If you believe in in an adjustment to the offense of philosophy for his health's sake then maybe you turn to cup everett you you cooks around the goal line not necessarily a target so it's interesting exceptionally spicy the a._c._l. Tear people afraid you get jay glazer coming out and saying you looks better than ever before which i have not normally said about an a._c._l. Tear so it's interesting. How confident are you. Where's the poll takes like super confident unbelievably confident number one in your rankings patriot beginning of the end end confident one more yes super confident chris carson ends the season as the top five fantasy football running a lot of cheers for chris carson some booze okay people we were like we're kind of on board with cooper cup but running back in the division yeah so when i look at chris cox bands ads there are two players that i'm just insane excited about this year chris carson's one of them sony michelle is the other one and now you can take them both at like third and fourth round in a lot of leaks. If you wanted to go wide receiver wide receiver you could is it a leap to say that chris carson could be a top five running back over the course of the season last year ear number seven in the league in total rushing attempts on the season despite missing two games on the season number five in rushing yardage for the whole season and all this speculation about what if what if he catches more pass he seems to have a clearly rashad penny that has only grown over the course of of this entire preseason from week eleven on last year so seven full games in the season he averaged nineteen point four carries a game on a team that runs more than anybody else else. Your eyebrows mike they'd just ro- that's a lot of carries ninety three yards a game. That's three hundred and eleven carry pace. That's a fourteen hundred ninety five rushing yard pace. That's a sixteen touchdown pace. He was a number four running back in that span behind like saquon mccaffrey and then the great wonderful wonderful derrick henry to end the year so multiple times last year and this season where he did that. He wasn't even targeted at all. I mean there were five different games that he played in where he had a lot of carries never even got targets. He's got the best teams on the play. Lead the reports around that all you need you do as pepper in one or two more targets given that kind of workload. You know what that team wants to do so it's bold because he's being drafted as the rb eighteen right now by my fantasy owners but i think he finished his how how is decay met metcalf doing right now poorly. How is david moore doing right now poorly <hes>. They're going to need to throw to someone other than tyler lockett so i i liked anything weird to me andy so you gave the the from week eleven on as is a decent enough sample size and his post post by right it was a pace of three hundred eleven but if you actually look at it was week three when he took over even carry if you go from week three on which is pretty much a season sample size he was still a three hundred and twelve kerry pace he's going to get i mean normal amount of work. It's just just a matter of will. He be involved in the past game if they stay healthy but that's the real ira for anybody to finish in the top five. You've got to stay healthy so i think that rounds out the bold predictions addictions. I think we're going to get into the mail bag. I hope you're going to bring it to get the microphone setup warm the voices up final one of the ear phoenix final mailbag drop of the year phoenix. I don't know how prepared they all do hear him get the license. You here thank you. There are no house lights. Okay all right told the fire marshal. You guys ready here. We go mail bag. It was just a calm before the storm now. He's pretty good -able first question all right. Let's jump into the mailbag shirt. Give name sub guy johnson talking the mind just a little bit. Let's do like that. What's your name buddy. John styles else what's up likewise so we in my draft. It's point zero four point per yard and so okay how i was trying to see how should i how does that affect my rankings going in my draft tomorrow point zero four point per yard. Are you talking about receiving and rushing. What are you talking about quarterbacks quarterbacks. It's point zero four point per yard point zero four point per yard. It doesn't change anything we get the question. Oh quarterback skit only five points. It doesn't change how you think of when you say does real line quarterbacks orbits sure i it's oh we get a point per completion. It just changes out who's at the top. It's not going to change your strategy because every every single quarterback is going to drop back and they're gonna throw the ball twenty to twenty five times. I mean that's why the streaming of the position is so viable. That's why every year you're over. Forty quarterbacks hit a quarterback one week and and it's not like it's what i never saw that coming. It's no the backup is is at home and he's playing against the garbage defense. We can all see it coming a mile away fantasy players the n._f._l. People out there. They're always shocked at these backup. Quarterbacks put up numbers. Meanwhile fantasy players like yeah because that's what they always do so it might change out as you say ryan a big win. It does change kind of the variants quarterbacks you know you talk about matt ryan bouncing back and forth that's because of touchdowns because a yard eighth straight years of four thousand yards or wherever he has just rearranged the bax to focus on those that have a lot of passing missiles. Do you have an ultimate draft. Shameless close due the scoring system into the and that'll wool organize it for yeah just never problems say. Her name is amazing. The guy's going hi. I'm linda novel <hes> to meet you linda. I'm so excited to be here. My question is on my harry repoter league series of unfortunate circumstances. My first pick was number twenty four. What's so yet ed hey so. Is this a situation when you would pick a quarterback i or what would your strategy be. When that's your first pick it actually pushes me the opposite direction if that's your first pick because you're now at a lower tier running backs and they run out quick so i'd be looking to get the core four late round for the quarterback situation right yeah i mean you've gotta stack running backs and wide receivers as much as you can for as long as you can because because you know that at the very end of the draft you can take josh allen at quarterback and you'll be fine. Don't waste an early pick because you don't have. I know i guess i was. I was thinking you would say it wouldn't change it. There was mahomes and all they had picked so far was running backs and wide receivers and these has this artist. This is already so no you have badly. I took her home. I do have often on this thing. I got bishops. Were you seeking approve loop okay so wait hold on failed after i had clicked not necessarily though i understand they. Have you have austin cler. What are what are your other running backs out of curiosity in a league where you took my homes. I can't remember the my whole list of okay. I got a bunch of breakout geico picks from your kit so i'm kind of excited about that. My son looked at it doesn't look too bad so okay. I hope one of the breakout picks that you did get which we just pulled. Tonight was not marlin mic no good so by the way it's it's awesome to have patrick mahomes. I think that gets lost sure z. Of late round quarterback discussion. It's super cool. I had him last year and a bunch leagues. I loved it. I was a big fan. The thing that gets you know having a great quarterback is what you want in fantasy. It just puts you in a position where you need to hit on the later draft picks more consistently and because fantasy football so so much variation injury and we we talk about stacking running back stacking wide receivers to protect against injury to protect against variants. It just puts you in a position where you have hit on them later. It doesn't mean that you fail. The draft have patrick mahomes means. You got the best quarterback and football in the waiver wire. If i was in that position the draft that may or may not have happened honestly i am. I'm stacking up wide receivers early because the wide receivers going thing in that range they're going to produce maybe you hit on one or two of them and they jump into that elite category but the running backs later later on they gain value as the season goes along you. Just you see it happen because of injury so i'm going to because i don't have early picks. I'm gonna take the more sure sure thing to know that i'm scoring points every week and make sure that the tony pollard's justin jackson that none of them are on the waiver wire morita because you could you could scoop them up and have a starting running running back week one so welcome linda next whereas here comes the man eater what's up for for those who can't see. He's he's wearing a whole notes shirts. I thought that was something for like really tall. People were man eaters or something. Take a ten minute. I can't go for that. The one ono's song. He doesn't like a reference. I'm sorry how do you guys families feel about fantasy asi football like the kids play your wife play it do they. That's a great question because today what time day both my boys who are here. You're drafted there. I avoid they drafted their first teams and much like linda. I let them find way through aaron rodgers in the first bedroom homes in the second for one of them but no i mean i think they've rallied around at one of the things we love about fantasy. Football is the fact that it can be very inclusive of the family if you make it that way when we started this show it was about hey. How do you not just win but have fun in create a league. That's fun with great people and that includes like not running off to the basement to watch football while your family does something else also right so it's been very fun for them. Obviously i get paid to do fantasy so it's changed my wife's perspective from what it was before yeah. I did this but no. It's been good for our family. My my wife my children right now currently don't they don't participate. I don't think you you know my wife will never participate in fantasy football. So if you're out there in your you've got someone like that. I highly recommend starting a successful fantasy football all podcast because honey. I'm working my my wife. I've convinced her one time to join a fantasy football league. I manage the crap out of that team. How does he do see did very well all right. Thanks thanks sir next question. Hello sir state your name dan kerber. Hey you dan so nice nice to meet. You guys all right. My question is what strategy adjustments do you make for a massive redraft tournament like the mega oh <music> insider trading. How do you think about a big tournament like that. You gotta you play to win by say that sounds ridiculous but you you've got to win your league but then at the end you're going to have to be putting up so many points and so. I'll give you one quick tip. We we talk about on the show. We don't like handcuffing number one because it's unpredictable there are some that are though dalvin cook. I'm fairly confident wouldn't that alexander madison. Alexander madison will be his handcuff if something were to happen devil cook if i draft alvin cooking that league. I'm not drafting alexander madison. I'm drafting chase edmunds. I'm drafting malcolm brown. I'm drafting guys that if something works out against those players now oh my team be transformed from great to incredible you. You have to stack up those players that can really turn the turn the nitro on halfway through the year and there's players like leonard four guys that look they're always say they would be great if they stayed healthy. That's why they're cheaper in the draft. Look the only single person i think we're up to forty five hundred people in the mega ball right now. You can get into join the foot dot com for for another week but you've got your team is going to be healthy like the winters team. Congratulations roy drafted unhealthy players and they didn't deal with a bunch of wacky injuries like you can deal with that in a league of twelve. You can't deal with that in a league of forty five hundred fair enough. Thanks thank you sir four he no. I know what that means. Oh yeah. Do you know what that means. One day i my name's regarding the loeser nice to meet you. Ricardo is the winner john where you teased it so soon. You didn't let us break the news. That's on you. It s not on me thank you. I'm just happy to seattle jersey like the last ten things we've given away ricarda. What is your favorite britt n._f._l. Team before he talks sir eagles. Oh come on hey. Hey the sanders remember. When david johnson broke out against the eagles. Though it was so great we've got assigned big cernan studio but just say a word of wisdom microphones. Pick up your mouth the gum you might wanna hold that back show take your questions so question is in regards to preseason which backfield has carried the most. That's a great great question for me. No i talked about the offensive line. Here's me a lot. I actually think that's more work towards matt ryan than freeman. Freeman great pass country can leak out and is a great pass protector so he's going to be in. This is just selfish. Purely you know oh blood pressure related but as the lions right like i've got so much riding on this i'm like oh no i mean i mean i'm so invested in kerryon johnson perfect example here so today the news the the lions preseason game it had a preseason game some football and i saw a tweet that was talking about how matthew stafford was out there for thirty two snaps and the snap breakdowns carry on johnson had eight and c. J. anderson anderson was twenty two and tie. John was out there bunch and so i'm like go honest to goodness no joke c. J. anderson was almost my today. The <hes> the analogy he was going to be beats like the vegetables i hate them but but then i went and i watch the game and what happened is he doesn't need be he was he was early in the game was i he was in on a couple of third downs and they pull them and he he never got back on the field so that's great news but that one's been stressing me out. I've been worried what about you guys. What tampa bay's backfield looks atrocious. I mean we were watching watching the game the other day and it was like okay if player lost three yards on the kerry and then it was peyton barber. If the player lost five yards on the carry a minute was ronald jones right so that backfield concerns me tremendously because we're trying to scrape and find value especially with bruce arians and i don't know if you've got the player that can do it sure. I'll throw out chicago oh because they aren't playing we. They're giving us nothing in. They're not giving us the insight into okay we can actually you have the freak out that david montgomery got the first eight snaps and then it was mike davis and trico and they aren't. They aren't a wizard of oz and showing us behind the curtain so that ah skittish about schedule. You're paying a fourth-round. Maybe alert round pick for david montgomery. So that's the backfield that has me a little squeamish squeamish the the other one. That's less selfish. Just from what i've seen that has me a little worried would be the bengals with joe mix and their offensive line has looked as bad as advertiser as worried lead with the injuries <hes> you know the amount of offensive miscues and holdings and like it's either they they have a successful run because there was is holding on it and it gets called back hold so joe mixon has nowhere to run. That's concerning. 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Running Back Rankings! Where are the Rookies? Miles Sanders Top 6? (04/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Running Back Rankings! Where are the Rookies? Miles Sanders Top 6? (04/28 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports got email us at fantasy football. Cbs I dot Com. It's time to dominate. Your fantasy league. Cheney any of you heard the quarterback rankings update on Monday morning. You know that wasn't really a ton that changed after the NFL draft. But it's going to be different. This is our running back. Show here recording it on Monday night. You're hearing it on Tuesday morning. Hopefully thanks so much for tuning in fantasy football today. Hey tell your friends. Just tell one of your friends to subscribe to our show if everybody does that then we'll have a lot more listeners and that will be really awesome. We'd appreciate that Adam with Dave Jamie and Ben once again we've got a couple of news items and then we will get into all of the runningback situations that need to be discussed Kansas City Detroit. Indianapolis the rams the Ravens. The bucks the packers. The bills the niners. The dolphins plus guys like Leonard. Fournette in Austin Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley who were really not affected by the NFL draft which is Great. So let's get into it first of all. This news item. The Eagles been. They didn't draft the running back or did they. Nfl DOT COM. Mike Garoppolo said about jalen hurts talking to one eagles source. They said quote. This guy might be able to contribute as a straight running back. That's how good we think he is. That's what we think is skill set is end quote bio sanders round four pick. Now that's a joke. Then I could. I couldn't hear what you said. What do you mean he said Blah Blah Blah Blah Idiot Blah Blah Moron? Hey Ben gotta cut out a little bit about something about a fourth route. Big and I was. I didn't catch what he was asking. But I I mean I whatever you could say that about Lamar Jackson right like we still joke about it. That people thought he should have been running back but he legitimately has running back skills. I mean that's not if you don't say it doesn't insult to his passing skills like he's that athletic. He's that good at making people miss. So if you want to say that about Jalen hurts than you know it's a compliment. I guess if you if you're not explicitly knocking his ability to play quarterback. I'm not ready to say it's going to like take away numbers from miles sanders though right little too much. Okay okay. I just want to get that out there. It was actually a very smart question that I asked Jamie. Just didn't do it justice. I guess what I was. GonNa Translate for men. I made a lot more sense when it came from you. Jason Lockenfora wrote this about Amari Cooper if you're really WANNA talk about. Cd-roms dynasty value. I guess but a lot of chatter in the scouting community about the cowboys drafts as well for good reason may have landed the best receiver in the draft. All the way down at seventeen and while everyone has been going crazy about Amari cooper steal. The dirty little secret is that he could be tossed. Aside and twenty twenty one pretty easily guarantees are far from ironclad and the fact is his replacement was already picked less than two months after he resigned. Dallas Jamie what do you think I think it makes sense? That if he's not performing at the level of what is contract is that they can move on should so I if I paid him to begin with I was just having conversation on twitter with a buddy of mine in the industry right before this pot about his contract and I don't understand the pre and post June second stuff but what I know about contract is it's a hundred million dollar deal and I'm doing air quotes TAT only ten million signing bonus which is extremely low if you look at any contracts. That's typically what converts dead money right so like. Brandin cooks had twenty one million dead on his on his on the rams books after his trade because of signing bonus remarkable only ten million and signing bonuses. They could trade him twenty twenty as far as I can tell. I don't know if they have ten million in flexibility but I think they could trade next offseason even But definitely after twenty twenty one. There's more money. It's like three team options. After that I'll always guaranteed money is at ten million signing bonus and his twenty twenty salary in twenty twenty one salary but the salary I think would move to a new team if if he was traded. So I think there's even more flexibility than that. It's wild it's pretty flexible. I'm looking at it right now. On over the CAP DOT COM. It looks like forty million. Fully guaranteed with the total injury guarantee of sixty million. Without telling me it's forty million bucks that's guaranteed but you're right bend it if he's cut as a post. June first designation after this season so yeah fourteen months from. Now there's there's There's looks like there's twenty two million dead money on the southbound cut but if he's traded eight million dead cap onto the ball on the cowboys books. It looks like it's two million if it's post June first in its eight million if it's before June for so you're right they can. They could trade him after the season or they can cut him after the next two seasons Jamie. I'm pretty convinced I'm going to be able to make you laugh at something. I say by the end of the show. I pulled up some funny jokes on the internet or guarantees the Jameel stonewall you no matter what you say pretty much so if you know this. But he's the cousin of a famous actor so he's probably learned a few things about keeping a straight face. Yeah I guess but I don't think justice family dinners. We would just practice not laughing anybody's jokes. There was what we used to people. People do that. Well just when I talk funny up. Probably the Jesse Eisenberg. 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If there's breaking news in football you can bet one of the guys is going to be on. Hq given the fantasy impact so please check it out. You're going to really enjoy it. Who Do you like and these backfield? Some of the answers will be obvious. But let's talk about the Backfield's That have had some change since the NFL draft. So who do you like better? Which running back. Who's your favorite in these back bills? Go around the room will go alphabetical Ben. Dave Jamie Kansas City cloud alert Clyde. Okay we'll go with CLYDE THEIR DETROIT SWIFT. Same the colts Taylor. The more I think about Taylor the more I love him for Twenty Twenty. I mean jt really. Let's talk about this one here. Why why are we going with Taylor over MAC? 'cause it just doesn't make sense for them to draft him and then even use them forty percent of the time and that would suggest like twenty percent on hines and I actually think hinds is going to keep his role as like a two minute down to mineral back pass announce back chasing points late. He's going to be the one on the field. I I know it already spells doom and gloom for Marla Mac. There's there a handful of things can happen to Marlin Mac. That'll just kick down the door for Jonathan Taylor to be the guy. Obviously injury could be one of those things and Mac has been beat up over his career. But what about trade? What if he gets the Carlos? I'd treatment running back gets hurt somewhere else. Coach chip off Marla Mac for a fifth round. Pick who knows and then John Taylor is the main guy and even Max as an even if he plays sixteen games. What are the odds? He's going to take forty percent of the carries from from John Taylor and the hemlines. I think it's slim I think Taylor's it's it's hard to keep him out of my top fifty. They get weak and I agree with all that I think week one. That's not gonNA sound right but in week six it is and in week. Ten Taylor's going to be the Guy. I think he could run for one thousand yards and even in twenty twenty when Max on the roster because I think by the end of the season he's GonNa be clearly the most talented back he's GonNa establish that that in in that offensive line is GonNa be so helpful. And then you have Philip rivers. Who has always been somebody you as immobile as he is? Check down to his backs. Yes hines is going to keep his third down role. That doesn't mean that Taylor won't be able to catch some passes from rivers. Just like Melvin Gordon did even when Austin Maintain passing down. So I think Taylor is GONNA wind up having a really good year. So who do you like better swift or Taylor Day? Let's see that's an example like I still have swift higher? But it's it's hard it's tough Jamie so after Taylor. Oh Taylor I mean I I think you know you look at it. They're both in crowded situations But scenario favors Taylor if he's getting work more so than swift if he's getting work. I mean Taylor's off the line is better. He's a better talent And so I would I would take. Can we all agree that? If Taylor gets murky if Taylor Indianapolis Swift in Detroit if Taylor swift get the same amount of carries. We expect more production from the Indianapolis Situation From Jonathan. Taylor swift will probably get more catches all right so I don't think it'd be much I think it could be by like twenty or thirty catches. Let's go to the rams who do you like the best in the rams backfield acres that ones. I think harder to feel confident about if that makes sense like I I think you have to put acres I but and this isn't even just because I love Darrel Henderson and maybe some of that but I also think that Malcolm Brown like he said this he kind of expect. Malcolm Brown to lead the backfield in week one and and I I think they will still use Malcolm Brown so i. I don't know I I think you have to like acres most but this one is a little bit tough is just not gonNA know right now is acres behind swift and Taylor and obviously Edwards dealer. Not For me. He's had his with Yup. That's how I have it to currently have Taylor last the four okay. So who do you like best in Baltimore Inger? Get that that's one. What's the difference between Ingram and Mac? Why are you projecting swift to or Taylor rather to overtake Mac? But Not Dobbins overtake Ingram. I think Ingram is like their halter. Like he's he's their guy. He's he came in last year assumed a leadership role when they needed one on offense. He is a trusted commodity. He is This was clearly a we need. I think this is more an indication of Gus Edwards. Just the guy and justice will probably never going to feature guy so this was a move of. We have a chance to get a star player. That is going to help us now but really help us next year. Any fit so well. Graham Barfield just tweeted out today that Out of the entire twenty twenty class Dobbins took more carries a higher percentage of his total carries out of. Rpo looks than any back and we know the ravens run more than anyone. I mean that's that's the running game. So Dobbins is going to be their their future back alongside Lamar Jackson but I agree with Jamie. This the same reason he put it. Well that Ingram's Kinda culture he. He's going to be. It's funny 'cause you're GonNa see people look at rookie only drafts and then go. Wow you guys are so higher. The industry is so high on Dobbins in those formats but ranked so low in seasonal formats. But that's the scenario. It's you you want this guy. The hill contribute and remember Ingram pop calf at the end of the season last year. And so if that happens early in the season for thirty one year we'll be thirty starts thirty one budget season. If that happens dobbins could be an absolute monster better than all these. Yeah we're at one hundred thirty three carries last year so there is a role there to be had for a number two running back. Let's go to the buccaneers. Who Do you like better in Tampa Bay? He shows on Yup but he took me like twenty four hours. But I'll say that I like one better but I don't know if I necessarily love either guy I mean I just there's something that I wanna just put out there. We spent considerable time on this podcast talking about the rookie prospects and we might have spent forty five. Seconds on Keyshawn Vaughn the entire time so while he's he's landed in a great spot. I just. I'm not ready to say that he's aiming better than just you know a decent back so if this comes down to backs don't matter something like that. Sure he's got a real good chance. There are a couple things. He can do. Better in terms of catching the ball and passed protecting than Ronald Jones. But he might that he might be their guy in. That's it on passing downs and Rojo still rolling in first and second down. We don't know I think it's going to be a competition. Bruce Arians was asked if he knew David Johnson and Aaron said no he's not he's not like David Johnson and anyone on talking about how this callejas I think. That's how you say his last name there. The running back they took later on just seems like he's a special teams guy. He says he's he's like a little David Johnson. So I'm not sure what we're walking into with this backfield and people who were very excited about von at this point I would be nervous about it. I'm not sure he's GonNa pay off if you take him. Yeah top sixty pick on draft day but one note on that on Raymond Collapse. He's a hundred and seventy seven pounds. I have eight. That's why he said he's look. I'm not saying the collapses the one to draft or anything but if he contribute if he's the best pass Catcher in Training Camp Bruce is going to find a way to get him on. The field for a handful of third logs now became but no because he'd be running around he doesn't have to block has contributed in some areas that he was going to be. That's how you think he's going to contribute as bycatch possible. There's plenty of running backs that run around instead of chipper. Also you also have to hide your coverages. Hydrogen your third and ten. I don't think they're expecting a run. Not If you have Evans Godwin and Gronk you can see afford to keep you running back into block plenty of time strategy. If that's what they WANNA do. Sure so let's do four more teams here. Who Do you like in Green Bay Jones? Who Do you like in Buffalo singled hit single terry? Who Do you like in San Francisco? Oster POSTER FOR NOW. And who do you like Miami? Drake Brita Howard Okay Howard. Pr and Breda Drake you kidding I -member it ridiculous. That Jamie would laugh at that. And not the major Jamie IB questions specifically got a longer track record of being funny. Is that right pretty? Funny when you said You'd be me tecmo superbowl. That was ridiculous. Well we're going to get that set up on which triggers complicated can happen Jamie. What's the best thing about Switzerland? I don't know I don't know either. But the flag is a big plus. Thank you thank you Internet for that one. So let's go through the consensus ray. Gigs discovery. Going to Google. The Switzerland flagged make sure Christian. Mccaffrey one SAQUON Barkley to this. Pr Davin Cook. Three Ezekiel Elliott. For Alvin Kamara. Oh this is non. Pbr let's toggle over two PBR. Shall we okay McCaffrey? Barclays Zeke Cook. Kamera gets pretty interesting after that number. Six Austin Eker number seven Derrick Henry Joe mixon eight Kenyan Drake Nine Miles Sanders ten. So after the McCaffrey Barclay Elliott Cook. Chimera you've got eker six Henry seven this is Joe. Mixon eight Kenyan Drake Nine Mile Sanders ten pretty soon. We'll talk Nick Charles Levy on Bell Aaron Jones. But what do you think about Davis or anyone in this six through ten range? That's too high or too low. Do you think ever draft. I've decided that Mile Sanders is worthy of that. Six baht baby. I'm going to party well. I don't know if this is really kind of party. I want to be at but if it comes with having Mile Sanders on my fantasy team than I'm in. But he was just he was too good down the stretch last year and two big factor catching the football to be ignored and the offensive line is good. They added a ton of speed a wide receiver. And it's I think he's going to be able to get a lot of touches weaken and week out and and do well with them. I know that we've said for years. Well Philadelphia likes to use. You know a bunch of running backs mix and match. I guess I have a hard time believing that that's going to be the case. So long as they keep the running back crew as well. Yeah they didn't hadn't I mean he's the biggest under under the radar winner from the draft? I mean as I was doing rankings Sake I mean. He's a rocket ship. We he is absolutely a top ten back now. He's a six pick in the draft from seventeen. I I don't know he's the six running back off the board. I guess I have to decide how I feel about him. With the with like the atoms. Julio Jones Jamie do you agree as is should miles? Sanders B. Six. Yeah I put him at seven behind mixing but I can certainly see myself moving ahead and maximum pressure all right again. Let's let's look at the rest of the group ear any other big arguments. We can move on and we don't have to talk about everybody but it's it's actor who you know. They didn't draft the running back until the fourth round. Derrick Henry Joe mixon Kenyan Drake Mile Sanders at six hundred ten. And he's a little to die for me. But my way too high for me I have. Derrick Henry ranked ranked twelfth running back. I guess that's not normal. I thought it was. How about actor? But what are the chargers? Tell us with their drafting. They didn't prioritize running back. Joshua Kelly's a nice addition. I don't think he's the type of of running back. That's GonNa take away a ton of work from US an actor and I don't think it'll be a three headed situation that they're they've the usual way that they've operated as one guy gets ten to twelve touches and the other guy gets the rest so I would assume that Kelly will battle with Justin Jackson camp to be that guy that gets ten to twelve touches and equil- everything else. And that's what we want so Ecuador Nixon and Drake howdy rank. Them Mixon is going to be I for me then actor than drake. Yeah just keep in mind if he's going to hold up. That's the only thing. I have drako vernacular. It'd be it would be shocking boeckler holes out after getting a new contract. I have a I have jake. Npr Drake or non PR but Adding both are very good. All right. Let's go through eleven through fifteen of the consensus rankings. Nick Chubb Levian Bell Aaron Jones. Josh Jacobs Clyde Edwards Ealier Fifteenth. So eleven through fifteen nick Chubb Levian Bell Aaron Jones Josh Jacobs Clyde Edwards Air. What do you think I think too high on the bell by a lot? What did he do last year? Why do we think he's going to be much better? Because the offensive line's improved Yeah I mean he's I think he's in this range I wouldn't put him I I take a chance on Edwards layer over him But I'm probably minority on that. I just think that there's more upside with him in the Kansas City office than there is for Bell. Who is another? You're older another year taken. A heavy workload You know yes. The offensive line improved. Didn't really add anything significant competition as well will Michael Peer is not gonNA take him off. The field for significant stretches so But I I agree at that point. But and we'RE GONNA get to sixteen to twenty here in a sack and I guess I should say that my rankings aren't aren't part of this consensus. So they're they're going to be a little bit different employment Girlies in in the sixteen to twenty range. I would take early over belt. I mean it's the same thing but better off L. is going to catch enough passes to be better than girly and I don't think he's going to only have what four touchdowns last sure. I figure. He'll get more than girls in a way. Better offense for touchdowns. Yeah but I'm I'M. I'm not certain that he's going to get. Let's call it fifty catches. That's the the mark we like to use okay. Lebanon gets that in his sleep. So we've got back to back fourteen and fifteen Josh Jacobs and Clyde Edwards Ealier and different roles you know I love. I'm sure we all love. Josh Jacobs talent. You know there's no question in my mind is a better player than Levy on Bell Right. Now it's just we don't know what his role in the passing game is going to be. And we don't know really what Clyde Edwards healers role is going to be period. But let's talk about that. Who Do you like better? Josh Jacobs or Clyde Edwards and. I'm pretty sure that's you pronounce it by the way I like. I like Edward Seller. I just think he's got a chance to be an absolute star in this chiefs offense now. That's obviously speculation. Because we don't know what they're gonNa do a Damian Williams and the other backs to have on the roster but the draft stock tells you that they're very heavily invested. His talent was pretty impressive. Lsu He's he's a superior Pass catcher out of the backfield. I think Jacobs is is in a great spot as well. you know. The fact that they added Doesn't necessarily help. I think in terms of his pass catching another pass catching back that they have with bringing back deal and Rashard and they'll be created with Bowden could do a a bunch of different things with him so I just wonder where his ceiling it And as we saw last year you know the concern was. Can you hold up to feature down work? The shoulder injury is a little telling that maybe that could be a problem at some point if he has other Dave Ben get in there. Josh Jacobs Kleiber dealer. So I've Jacobs ahead of Allaire right now and it. It's in Pennsyl- I I have to admit I can't say for sure this is. I'M GONNA drive come August because it's not gonNA take much to get over the moon for Allaire which is where Jamie is now. Jamie's camped out on the other side of the moon on this But Jacobs is still really good back really talented catches do matter here but I also think that Jacobs is going to benefit from having speed added to the receiving corps in Vegas. And I still don't believe that this is suddenly going to become a pass frenzy offense. I think they're still going to be mildly or maybe mostly conservative when it comes to how they play and I think Jacobs has a lot of what we look for from running back opportunities to score minimum of fifteen touches per week. Both he stays healthy offensive. Line is still pretty good so him and shop. I know that they're not gonNA catch a tunnel passes but I think they're both just really talented running backs and I think both of them can get a lot of work week in and week out. Yeah but why? I'll throw this one. Ben Why is mixing clearly ahead of Nick? Saban Josh Jacobs are. Aren't they in the same boat? Really mixing hasn't really had the three down rule that we'd like right as frequent frequently as we would like. But he is a little bit underrated. I think fantasy you know. He's one of those players that that we do with. Our famous expectations influence our perception of the player. And we've had really high expectations for him. So I don't think people really recognize that. He has fourteen hundred yards in back to back seasons. I mean like he's nearly a hundred yards per game over the last two years ago yards total yards of but if we're talking about him not having a great receiving rolled in. That's just you know speaks to help. How well he does. Whatever all the way around. I think there's upside from that and there's upset and touchdowns if this offense gets a lot better. I mean he's been in a pretty productive back the last two years. He has been yeah. I just wonder if he can be elite because it doesn't seem like he's going to get to that fifty catch threshold but you can still be really good without it. Yeah and if you look at the last eight games I've references before last eight games of Twenty Nineteen. He averaged seventeen point four. Ppo points per game. It was fifteen point three and nine. Ppo but you know what he also had to had had the most carries and football by thirty three. And that's actually alarmed me a little bit because you can't rely on that in those eight games in thirty three more areas than any other running back. Joe Mixing Number tells me that they were happening. I just don't even if he's going to lead the NFL on carries. It's not going to be to that degree now. Derrick Henry missed a game and they're so would've been a little closer but I'd like does he. Does he need to lead the League in carries to be the number four running back because that's not doing that was such little town around compared to what he has now? Yeah so much better. Yeah but isn't that? Isn't that reason to think his his carries go down. I mean no because of their winning. They're gonNA rely on their running game more. Had the number one pick of the draft. I'm not going to be winning much. But you're getting two first round picks coming back to this roster and essentially a borderline hall of Famer that they didn't have last year right. That's and that's just on the offense. I don't know how much better the defense is going to be. But they added some nice pieces in free agency in the draft. Yeah why are we just forgetting about his first day games? Were very good at all you average three because it was new coach right and and you know they were dealing with the is Dalton. The Guy let's put him on. What does that have to do with how effectively he ran the football? Well I can tell you what it is. That's just making excuses. They've quarterback is not the if the quarterback is not solidified. That's not going to impact. How the running back? No what is it bad or the ball. He averages three point two yards per carry and he says. Oh sorry coach. I don't know who the quarterback is going to be. Plus we knew the quarterback was it was Andy Dalton. Who wasn't like that for eight games? I think that's I think that's a better mix. It is not a bet on his twenty nineteen splits. It's a bet on twenty twenty being a better situation for the offense that is like he wouldn't be you ask. Why is he ahead of those? Other guys noted if they didn't draft Joe Borough and indulged back. He wouldn't be. Yeah but I I guess like comparing it to comparing it to Chub you know Chub better should be much better situation rushing leader behind him. Yeah you're still got a ton a ton of Carey's in those with Kareem like I said he was number two jobs number. Two in the last game of the season job is great. He's he's eases he's A. I mean the offensive line got better. You know. A broader coach wants to run the ball jobs and it really good spot. I guess the comparison I was making was with Nixon Xiaobin Jacobs all three of them. Look like they're going to get a lot of carries but not a lot of catches so I was wondering why Nixon was consensus. That number one for you guys. I feel more comfortable saying that. Mix has reception upside than I do with Chubb. I think Chavez a little bit more I don't think it's crazy to be a little bit optimistic about Jacob's reception upside with kind of the bus. It's been around him but it's that and then it's it's touchdowns for mixing too. I think he could have His best touchdown season. He's topped out at nine hundred. Eighty S as part of the reason. We don't really think of him as that. Great in because in fantasy hasn't been that great but a double digit touchdown. Season would be great if this offense is a little bit more productive. And you know the cream haunts going to be there to take some work away from Chubb. You know that Rashard and Bowdoin could take work away. From Jacob's do you really think Giovanni Bernard's GonNa take a lot of work away from Joe Mixon? I do not think that Jalen Rashard is going to take running work away from significant touches nonetheless. Yeah catches yeah sure but more importantly for Jamie knock knock. Who's there control freak and draw? Okay now you say control Rico right thank you bed next up in the consensus rankings. Where we at sixteen? Melvin Gordon Chris Carson Todd Gurley Leonard Fournette down at nineteen and James Connor. Remember this is. Npr Melvin Gordon Chris Carson Todd Gurley Leonard Fournette James Connor guys. Should WE BE MOVING LEONARD? Fournette up a little bit. What do you think he belongs to this rain? Should we be moving on from this boring five group of? What is it quintet of veterans? Because who cares. Wow but but you've got you've got potential workhorses here which ones Gordon Carson girly for that and Qatar all potential. Though as long as I use the word potential. I can't really be wrong. I mean should be Gordon is the one you really worry about. In terms of what the split is going to be but he showed me he could be really good even when he's not the ultimate workload Guy Purely WanNa feel the most comfortable projecting for a workhorse role. I mean I feel. Atlanta did nothing but but they they want to be that what about that. They did nothing. Jaguars that was just a touchdown. Braiding him all. Offseason what do you mean? They've done a lot. They've said they don't want him anymore but they didn't get a running back enough unjustly asked me for net goes through a a slow stretch. They'll be more than ready to put him on the bench and see what they have with. Armstead and that's if he makes it to the roster When training camp starts when trying to help ends when the preseason ends like I feel like the. He's he's a landmine. He could really could really be a huge problem for your fantasy team and if you take them too early you could regret it okay. I guess we'll move on from this boring quintet and go to twenty one through twenty five. Npr Rankings Devon single. Terry David Johnson the Andrea Swift mark. Ingram and CAM acres that. We've got a couple of rookies in this group. Devon Single Terry David Johnson Andrea Swift Mark Ingram and camakers. How was Jonathan Taylor? Not GonNa ask me. He's twenty six. How is the Hi Devon Single Terry? You shouldn't be Where's James Conran? All this he was not the end of the Boring Quintet Right. So this is this is going to be the group of running backs that you're gonNA take hoping that they hit their potential rookies that are gonNA have to share to some degree at the beginning of the year and hopefully by the time. You're closer to your fantasy playoffs. They're they're leading the way for their squads we we're almost out of guys that feels like they've got a really good chance to be workhorses or I wouldn't say a really good but above average chance right and I think twenty seven on this list might might be the last one. I don't know there's like Sony Michelle's there but twenty seven David. Montgomery Twenty six is Jonathan Taylor David Montgomery so he is behind obviously Clyde Edwards. He's also behind the Andrea Swift Cam makers and Jonathan Taylor. Now Montgomery's very close to the other three rookies. He's just ahead of Kareem Hunt in Keyshawn Ron. So this twenty six through thirty is Taylor David. Montgomery Kareem Hunt Keyshawn van Tariq Owen and again it's Pr but you've got like Kareem Hunt and to recall it in there. They are y'all third-down backs again. They're they're only going to be number three running backs. Npr Sandra Day. I would guess but how do they compare to David Montgomery and John Taylor and Keyshawn von what? What's your take their Ban I I mean Drako and obviously plays on the same team as Dave Montgomery and I have a couple of spots behind Montgomerie my own rankings. But I think he's a significant hindrance for Montgomery. I think he's somebody that they're going to use. It's kind of like what we're talking about. Might be a concern with Ouden with with Oakland. We already know that is a concern for David Montgomery in Chicago. So Montgomery's upside is very much capped. I think in the passing game Cohen's just way more explosive. He wasn't very good last year. But they're still gonNA use him than they did. Use Them Throughout the year. They didn't like Montgomery much in the passing game. And I I think it's the season went on. Cullen's role snaps started to create back-up there a little bit lower early. They tried to give Montgomery a little bit more early and it looked like Montgomery might really have a big rookie season but it just never kind of came together for him so I I'm more concerned about Cohen Four Montgomerie's value than a lot of other passing backs in the League. I'd rather have on in Montgomery. I would to have gone ahead of him. I guess that's right. It's like it's like you're you're gonNA take. You're going to take a rookie. That's in a position battle. Whether it's Taylor swift or it's Vaughn ahead of Montgomery who had like twenty fewer touches than Aaron Jones last year. Two hundred and forty two carries hit twenty five catches. He did not do well. There's no question but let me on. Belden do that well as a rookie. So I'm not disagreeing with you but why are you gonNa take an unknown rookie in Tampa Bay for example over Montgomery who you would think is going to get more carries than Keyshawn von? Because upside isn't necessarily just about Kerry's it's about high-value touches and I think I there's a few things coming out of the draft that I feel as confident about then keyshawn bonds. GonNa play on passing downs. Because Bruce Arians hated Ronald Jones Pass blocking last year? I mean I'm the guy that was talking about Ron Jones a lot. I was playing him in. Dfs after one of his big games he started the next game to get bench right away and we found out after the game. It was pass blocking related and that that was the story of the whole season. He's I don't think Ron Jones is gonNA play on passing downs again under areas so like as much as I think Ron Johnson underrated talent. It's that's that matters And they drafted a guy who schrager told. Us graded the third best pass blocker among the running backs in his class. So keyshawn Von Is like that's why they got him. I think that's very very clear. And then that means he has. The upside errands did talk a little bit about wanting a three down back to the top. That doesn't think he's era. Dave may have that doesn't Dicky's David Johnson but it did also talk about like being comfortable with the three. Dan Backer wanting a three down back. I can't think of the exact quote but That's the wrong could grow into. That's what you like. You're basically hoping he's devante Freeman early. Dodger firm second year but he looked like the passing down back and they had just draft. Tevin Coleman who was going to be the early down pack And I think had to get hurt early in that year for that to to break out but when the guy has the passing downs like that if he can just get the the Carey's than the upsides really high so I want to correct one thing I said by the way I said Kareem Hunt won't be drafted as the number three guy non Peoria probably will. He's thirty third in our non consensus. Rankings he's twenty eighth NPR so technically you know he'll probably be in the top thirty six. I don't even know about to re- Cohen but I think you you get the point there more valuable in this format. So let's go to thirty one thirty five here. Darius Geiss re moster James White Kerryon Johnson Ronald Jones and to some degree. We probably talked about all of these guys. Except for James White Darius guys for he moster James White Kerryon Johnson and Ronald Jones. That's the five their day of. Does anybody stand out in this group? Thirty one thirty five. Well the first thing I wanNA say about James White is that NPR. He's safe he's given you at least ten points in twelve fifteen games in twenty nineteen twelve of sixteen in two thousand eighteen and a lot of those games in two thousand eighteen. We're just amazing is he. Was He say okay? What because I almost think that it helps them. I think if the system stays as it is in New England and if it stood hoyer it leads me to believe that it'll be largely the same that he's still going to vie for targets and and get a lot of catches their now they go in they. Add Cam for example. I don't think they try and fit a square peg into a round whole. I think they try and have cam. They they played Cam strengths and that could certainly hurt James White in that regard but for now. I'm comfortable taking white as late as I possibly can. Npr lease just for bench depth. And if he has to be my number three running back if I have to use them as a flex sometimes. I don't mind because I think the track record has been there and I think it'll stay there. I think his role is locked up in New England. Any other thoughts on this group guys most or white Kerryon Johnson Ronald Jones. I hope guys plays more than five games. I mean I just WanNa see it right. I really do I who knows they have so many running back there. And the addition of Antonio Gibson just makes it even more cloud whatever they're gonNA do with them. But you have Peterson still there. He'll get work. Barbara will probably be a Guy. If he makes the roster they may give a couple touches to mckissick. I think is going to be the one that plays on passing downs. But that's still going to be a disaster as well so guys can clearly just say to all those guys get my way if he's good but we need to see it. I saw I everytime I rank guys. It's like I guess this is where he belongs. And it's more at thirty range you know. Sorry Jane the more I think about Gibson the more I like him. We know that he's versatile we know that is a great pass catcher out of the backfield. We know he's got speed decent size Ron Rivera and offensive coordinator. Scott Turner just came from Carolina where they were fortunate to have Chris. Mccaffrey as they're running back for the past few years and I'm not saying that Gibson is McCaffrey. But what if they end up trying to find a way to use them similarly that could lead to some pretty big catches and maybe I think I'm going to go after Gibson on Pr League? It sounds like they're gonNA play my receiver know that they've got running back draft they. They listed him as here. I've seen nothing but running back on their website and in press quotes I thought they announced him as back. Actually and they did yeah. He went through the draft process receiver. And when the redskins draft. And maybe this is telling maybe this plays into what I'm saying That they they list him as a running back. He's on their website right. Now as a running back yeah. I'm looking at a tweet from the athletic director themselves and I want to just talk about the lions real quick Reading an article. I don't know how much this means. But in the Detroit Free Press Carlos minorities. I'm not sure quite pronounce his name. Who will be the lions starting running back? He says if Kerryon Johnson is healthy. He's done enough to earn the title of starter. He's well liked and respected throughout the team and he also gave the lions their first one hundred yard. Rusher USE ME FIRST. One Hundred Yard rusher in seventy games as a rookie. Two thousand eighteen both scarborough. We'll offer I lost the article era. Go though scarborough off of the power component swift should be nipping at Johnson's heels and might replace him as the starter if he makes enough big plays. It's a great problem to have for the Lions Blah Blah Blah. If he nips at his heels too much carry on beyond short-term IRR Ronald Jones was number thirty five thirty six through forty. Could probably stop here as you guys for some late round favorites. Marl Matt Brita. Oh you guys have barlow back. Forty I my goodness Matt Brita Jordan Howard Damian Williams Sony Michelle Daryl Henderson. That's thirty six through forty madame whereas you draft Marlin Matt. I draft them ahead of Kerryon. Johnson I'd probably draft him ahead of Keyshawn Vaughn. I mean you're talking to here. Here's the problem this is. This is the format thing because I think in non PR with you. He he wasn't going to be involved in the passing game when he was the guy. That's true and so now. You're getting to this format where Taylor's better than my pay. I mean we'll see what the goals do. But then you throw in like I agree with everything said about with. Hines hines role. Does Not Change at all. So it's like it's like you go from one to three in the depth start for the colts. Npr maybe say one to to know where he's better than hines non-paper but in this format. I mean I don't I don't see Mac playing unless tailed hurt. And why baby in September like I was saying earlier like you can enjoy draft Marlin Maktoum high getting twelve. Fourteen carries fifteen carries in a few September Games. But you're like you're GONNA get nothing out of that. But all it depends. Who's getting the goal line work and that you know something that could be an area? Were Mac wins just based on the fact that job because Taylor at eighteen fumbles in forty one games so we have our new James Devlin. Sure home that follows a really good point. We shouldn't overlook that I think that's why he wasn't a first round. Pick and I bet that's reason number one. Why the chiefs? I mean one running back Edwards was the guy they've been talking about for weeks for internally picture but it might have been but that could have been listening. I- I'M GONNA Trust Andy Reid evaluating running back everybody. The colts traded out of the first round to get a huge upgrade on their defensive line and with their first pick they traded up for Taylor Right. They did trade up. Pretending wasn't there I was either I pick in the round. I don't think back. So MARLA actor Marlon Max. Five eleven to thirteen fortieth percentile. Bmi for running backs. Jonathan Taylor Five. Ten inch shorter to twenty six. He's thirteen pounds heavier. He's eighty nine th percentile. Bmi He is a finger stock year. Faster more explosive back. I mean yes. If the fumbles really are an issue I do see that point. But that's why I said why when you initially brought it up. 'cause like tailored to me is one when you get them in Camp. You're going to say this is the guy that we want to give the the ball right you know. So that's the thing if if he doesn't fumble in camp obviously it's something that the colts know about something that they're going to work on with him from the second that they're able to work on it with them if he doesn't fumble in the preseason earn training camp then sure got a chance to have that role. Yeah we'll remind everyone. Nick Chubb was better than Carlos Side Mile Sanders better than Jordan Howard and neither of them won the starting job in week one. You know you don't want fantasy leagues in week. One so about I'm not taking a much taking Marla Mac ahead of Taylor. I think it's actually an interesting like question though. Like if you knew what happened to Carl side was going to happen or what happened to Jordan Howard was going to happen in. Howard's was injury. Where would you take those guys if you knew really only getting September October production? 'cause like for me. I don't draft those guys. I'm hoping that I can get by in those weeks. But sometimes those teams my fantasy teams wind up a little bit behind the eight ball before I get some late season production. So it's an interesting question I think but there. Tuck has this is. This is a great roster construction scenario because you could conceivably get the guys that you like and if you have such conviction on them that you think by week five weeks six. We Gate whatever the case may be. Hopefully you're not out of it by then but then you have just superstars whether it's Taylor. Or swift or acres. Whatever the case happens in there if you if you really want to Well I'm just looking at guys that have the best chance to overture on the starter but if you get off that slow start and it's waivers and not fab. Then you're getting the opportunity to take those guys off. Waivers I that are potential stars or guys that you could be started early in the season and so now you're sort of turning your off over a little bit while you're still sitting on these lottery tickets. If you don't get too far behind you could just start steamrolling the league by the time you get the militia. That's kind of like zero Rb Strategy to like if you start out really slow sometimes with no running backs. It doesn't hurt to have why I agree with what you're saying though but I think I think the problem is that you stop the draft. These guys relatively early because of where are you going to them? Ranked were saying I don't want I don't know if it's fair to throw Edwards Alaron there but he probably probably should be so if you know you're you're following the consensus so Edwards hilarious. A third round pick. I guess Based on the consensus in Taylor's probably a fourth or fifth round pick and Swift and acres or are in that same range you know. So let's say you're taking two or three of these guys while building wide receivers yet to take them in the first five rounds tough but what I think you should hope for is a report quote from a coach. That says we're going to the Veterans GonNa play and these guys are gonNA fall like mile. Sanders did smile. Sanders certainly wasn't picked in the first five rounds. You know so that you go into the season people know that Marla Max going to start. We're going to know that. Hey that doesn't mean he's gotTA finish. That doesn't mean he's going to be a starter in week. Six and these guys fall a little bit and maybe you know maybe they'll be maybe they're ADP will be lower than their ranking. Whatever nice if the ravens that had taken Dobbins they lend fall wants to the dolphins? Dolphins took him in second round and if the bucks really wanted to make a splash they would've taken swift or Taylor and we would have gotten some of these superstar potential running backs in featured roles right away now again. I'd rather have Dobbins in Baltimore for Twenty One and Taylor in Indianapolis for Twenty Twenty One but for two thousand twenty. It would have been nice to have these guys been a little bit more clear-cut situations some other highlights. Jk Dobbins forty six NPR in non PR. Dobbins is forty Seconds Zach. Mosses forty-ninth nothing really. Nothing really huge here. I had a question. I don't know if you guys know but just seeing just talking about awesome Ecuador earlier and undrafted free agent getting a big contract getting big work this year. Hopefully I feel like the order of success in terms of where a player is drafted running back drafted and how it translates is to translates. Nfl success. It'd be something round one round two round three and then it might be undrafted free agent after that and then around for. It's kind of a weird thing. There's there's tends to be some success with undrafted free agents. It's rare but it's also pretty rare for like around five running back to be good. Who's the UNDRAFTED rookie free agent? Besides Gabon Philip. Lindsay Philip Lindsay Awesome Ecuadorian foster was undrafted. Free Right Yep. There's just a weird history of I take blown out because we know what happened to him why he wasn't but I don't take that out because it could be any circumstance it could be him in particular. I mean he would have been drafted in punching kid right before the draft. Yeah but that's what you feel horrible saying if that's what you look for like character concerns caused people to drop. You should not discount their talents. I mean it's a game that we play but just kind of random thought. I didn't know there was like a bad. Figured would have a well actually undrafted free agents thirty two percent of whatever. Well actually it was the first undrafted free agent to start his career to straight thousand yard seasons. So you're probably put too much weight on him and then Erin. Foster took a little bit of time in blunt. There's not a lot options there. Yeah because most running backs and most players in general there. They drafted for reason. Yeah good well actually. Great Jamie Why did the chicken go to to get to the other side? All these terrible jokes. I don't know why I got this from. Rdc DOT COM. Thank you dot com. We are out of here We'll talk to you on Tuesday night tonight. Maybe we got our twitch stream twitch dot com slash f today. We'll see you then. Also podcast coming at Ya on Wednesday to talk about wide receivers Dave and Jimmy. Van I'm Adam.

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Week 16 Matchups + Injury Concerns, Big Play Big Day

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Week 16 Matchups + Injury Concerns, Big Play Big Day

"This is Melvyn Gordon from the Los Angeles chargers and you listening to fantasy footballers podcast Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to YOU FROM PRISTINE OPTION DOT com studios with your hose. Andy Eighty Holloway. Jason Moore and Mike. Right cool man. Dan Special Day of the week. Apparently we're on the cusp above Christmas Day. I didn't even. It's my son told me this morning we were five days away is a Ha- node boy. Andy it's Ho- because because he's correct and we are five days away December twentieth. Yeah I'm feeling a little bit disappointed only in like I didn't soaked up enough Christmas Smith Spirit. You know what I mean like. I told this I don't know why it's felt like we've been so busy but I'm still waiting for the two weeks that are right before Christmas us where you go out and look at Christmas lights movies. Yeah like dom looking forward to that time. It's going to be good. You only got got a couple days left I mean. 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Yep that gives you the ED whatever happened a year ago two years ago one year ago today. Do you know what you did. Jason Probably celebrated a championship. Oh it was that what I got Brooks Pizza. Oh you bought Brooks a pizza before your match up with him and delivered it to him in your weird superstitious way of trying to pre congratulate him for his title in order to win a title Yoursel which I did. I Love Pizza as you say you accepted the pizza with open arms relation gift congratulations. You can't by pizza on the website not our website. But you can't buy fook land title shirt shop. BALLERS DOT COM. Let's Talk News. Komo news and notes from around. The League presented Vice Sleeper Dalvin Cook not expected to play Alexander. Madison didn't practice on Thursday after the show yesterday morning. where I you know? All but guaranteed Mike Moon. Starting being there. Was this Mike Zimmer quote about Alexander Madison quote has a chance how do you interpret that situation. I interpret that as he has has a chance to do something some day. I mean when Mike Zimmer talks about his players you look at the history of what he said about. Adam feeling got a lot. The people excited for feeling a whole lot of weeks and it never came to fruition. So there's certain coaches you know if Bruce Arians says something you you can usually go with that. He's like Oh hamstring looks bad. These probably telling the truth. But yeah with Zimmer I I look at what's going on in the practice field what the beat reporters that are close by saying saying it looks like a high ankle sprain Alexander Madison. He didn't participate at all last week. So far not at all this week I will be scared. What if he gets in a full practice but even if he's limited on the sidelines or something that his no? I'm not worried about Madison. All right we have confirmation that Julian Edmon will be playing this week. Never the best thing to have a player that needs confirmation like that that you're counting on last week. It was the same type of story and he had a very bad performance. He's expected to play but really troubling. Troubling snap counts last week an amazing bill secondary really a primary option and edelman that. If you stop him you slow this offense tremendously because we haven't seen a rapport with Muhammad's new or Nikiel Harry or Philip door set in recent weeks. Brady's been bad. Yeah so I heard Brady a AH Brady had a quote that like. He's basically almost call that allman out. He's like he needs to have a good game this week. The dude is playing through some major this shoulder. His knee I'm worried about Ataman but if you're in a full PR league. He's who got you here. It's going to be you're going to have to have a really good option option on the wire or on your bench to end up benching. Julian Edelman after one bad game. All right Jeld ever is going to play eight. Yeah this is bad news for all of the higby owners. I think it does have an impact. I would prefer to not play higby. Despite despite the fact that he has been on fire with Everett back I would pivot to Jacob Hollister if I was the higby owner Yeah I think. There's a big risk because Everett had had what eight reception games in the past before going down with the injury. If you're betting on a you know lower tier tied in to give you big numbers. I mean it's Henry Hollister Hooper Howard Cook Howard probably got three Hollister after Hooper Howard. Do you have to have your name starting with an h to be a championship wallow away. Oh Oh I'm a tight end. That's what I've always said Derrick Henry didn't practice on Thursday didn't practice last week. We expect them to be out there. It's not mentioned here. But Dion Lewis is banged up too so yeah and Joe Mixon this. This is actually I think Something we have to keep our eyes on because he popped up on the Thursday injury report with a calf issue and this isn't new injury so if he is actually and it's a great match. Yep Oh it's so good I mean Joe Joe Mixon is a smash play. He would have been your start of the weekend without a shred of doubt if it wasn't too obvious that everyone everyone in the world should be starting Joe Mix and like it was like oh I would have gone Joe. Mix and he's grays smash play but now you have to pay attention if he is if he's missing practices with the calf. I mean there's risk there's risk but right now it's preliminary it's just a brand new injury and that's what gives you concern. Yeah because is anytime at POPs up late in the week and it's new. You didn't get to see it in a game. Those those have a tendency to end up with surprise is inactive. And if that happened you're in a situation with what Giovanni Bernard No. I'm not why why wouldn't wouldn't you. Why wouldn't I pave it because makes no sense when you look at like this Andrea Washington an argument from yesterday? Here's it's a we just said it's a smash matchup. Joe Mixes a top five running back this week. When left bell went out people wanted to play out Kay Jabber is better than Blah Pal. When you know Josh Jacobs goes out you end up with D Andre Washington? Who's never been able to sniff the field except for injury but everybody's GonNa play the honor in Washington? I don't know why you wouldn't pivotal Bernard in a in a gorgeous matchup chat myself. I think the reason I don't catch US passes the reason. I don't WanNA pivot to Bernardo's because he's been so bad this year. He's he's just been I mean he's three point four yards a carry a behind. That line like Joe Mixon was bad and then they figured out how to make Joe Mixing on this bad team with a bat offensive line good and when you watch the place. We literally go to yesterday's show. I forget which show because we're doing so many I said he. The Joe Mixon is making plays at no one else us in the League would be able to do and that. That's the only reason. Joe Mixon's been good now. The matchup is great so maybe Joe could be an option but I I would rather you know all those other names we brought up. The Lao was terrible and ivory on all of his carries before he had the opportunity. The Washington has not been good. That's all all I'm saying. It's a great match. Would you would happily play Juve. Renard instantaneously if he had the backfield to himself okay. Would you play him over. The de'andre washed dinner Boone's. Maybe I would not on record. Yeah you are all right Game Day alerts joined the foot dot com Sunday. Live Answering your starts at questions. One hour before Sunday kickoff very likely you'll have a jason more Sunday live experience this week congressional. Get Mike back here next week. News and notes as always brought to you. Oh by the sleeper APP back in the forecast Dan. Se Forecast. You got a lot of shows a lot of matchups to get there yet in matchups were about to cover one breath one breath for all of them Yesterday we covered six matchups. Texans buccaneers bills Patriots. Rams forty niners those of your Saturday games check your lineups. Make sure you get the players out of the flex into the positional spot. So you have flexibility Weird situation like Joe Mixon one can come up and all of a sudden you want Joe Mixing in your flex. Yeah but while. You've got these Saturday players. Who would normally be in your flex? Get him get him into the RBM. The wide receiver spot. Yeah like most hurter girly and the giants Redskins Bengals Dolphins Saints. Titans we cover those games yesterday as well. Let's jump into the steelers jets. Matchup steals goes eight and six. The jets are five and nine steelers on the road here and just three point favorites in a thirty seven. Point over under the steelers dealers while look. They're defined by their defense right now. They're fighting for a playoff spot. But the truth is they can. They're gonNA win dirty Each and every week and they've done an amazing job coaching their way through. No Big Ben. you've got duck. Hodges Behind Center you've had no James Connor Ju- that'll change this week. It looks like it. Did you got a full practice Yesterday so it. It appears he's going to be back on the field. You don't put them in your lineup. No no I'm not starting Juju Smith Schuster by any means but it is is good. News is for Pittsburgh which is mostly irrelevant. There's only one player on Pittsburgh that you can consider starting and as James James Connor that's correct James Connor They want to integrate them into every they WANNA win with Defense James Garner if they can if conner's body allows them to do that and you know last week he was all right. You saw a major timeshare last week for you know which is not you know you look at the the weeks prior. When he was healthy you know James Connor through weeks? Go play two or three games. Go was eighty three percent of you know the offensive snaps. This last week was fifty eight percent but I still think he's being given the most valuable snaps the ones that matter. That's when connors out there the goal line You know the important Passing passing down. So He's the best pass catching running back and the best between the tackles running back on the team. It's not close not even close. No and so. Yeah you're right. That's the only option you really looking at in this matchup with juju coming back it values. James Washington is a DART throw deontay Johnson Dart throw and puts you squarely on the shoulders of connor owner. Who We have outside the top twelve but as a running back to this week I have him ahead one spot over the Running back on the other side of the field field Levy on bell who has had enough volume to be a fine running Maktoum most weeks for fantasy. Football is not what you drafted. But he's also not the worst I but this is a terrible matchup and so love bell the last two times. We've seen him. He has not been running back to is the running back. Twenty eight and the running back thirty thirty two. This is a horrific matchup. Are you scared to stardom. Are you just starting him with low expectations. Yeah I think I have a little bit of apprehension apprehension but know that the volume will be there and if you give them enough volume you could be on that He's in the start where the category rb to Flex Category Devlin Hodges had four picks last week darnold playing poorly. I would ever quarterback turns the ball over last wins the game. Maybe I don't know. Yeah that's true. Are you gonNA GONNA start any of the receiving options Robbie Anderson. James said crowd are all such a big game. I'm out I'm Oh you T- yeah. I'm not I'm this is not not what I want from my title game. I've made that decision in my CBS championship. I'm moving on from Robbie Anderson in you know playing John. Ross John Ross. Over Robbie Anderson I think I am. I think you just set it all right. There do not play. Robbie is saying that out loud makes me feel dump it makes me feel you sound a little dumb to beyond makes me sound. Yeah because you just said you're playing John. Ross that's right you're going to their gut. I'm going with the mentality that I don't win. In based on the past I win based on this week and this is a terrible match of Robbie Anderson a terrible answer for Jamison crowder. I'm not leaning on that situation. I trust that John Ross will have more opportunity Miami one of those guys. I can't believe I'm doing one of these guys. Saying at Brooks probably gets a touchdown here because I think Sam darnold throws those are touchdown and so it more than likely goes to one of these two guys. Okay you have no idea who in without it is a bad day. It's a terrible well day. For whoever doesn't get a touchdown. So yeah I mean basically start James Connor Start Love Bell Arbutus moving on Ravens twelve and sue Brown six and eight. The Ravens are ten point favorites. It's a forty nine point over under part of the discussion. This week has been the fact that if the bills beat the Patriots the Ravens Lockup homefield field advantage throughout the playoffs which could affect their willingness to stretch the players out for the duration of this game. Maybe you know I think a good situation to illustrate that might be gus. Edwards takes just as many carries his mark Ingram in this game or something of that extent the other side of the coin is the Patriots are favored to win on on Saturday. And this is a divisional game against one of the teams one of the two teams that have defeated the Ravens. The Ravens are heavy favorites. And they smash everybody and you want a part of the smash. Yeah as of now. Y- Y while you need to be prepared for some kind of weird bizarre shocking king. They're not gonNA play Lamar which we don't expect to happen. Be Prepared but operate as if you're getting these great players because you probably are. Yeah yeah absolutely. What are the other big question marks for you in this ball game? You have You Know Nick Chubb You. You're a little bit concerned because anytime I am. You play the ravens you you worry about the ceiling. Not being very high but Nick Chubb. Just he's a very good player and he can be stifled for three quarters of the game and bust off fifty yard run. He's done it over and over again. He had a bunch of chunk plays last week against Arizona in a game that they were destroyed it. So you're not doc benching. Nick Chop No. No you're certainly not been SI- benching Nick Chub he's been a a Rockstar. That's gotten you to the playoffs. He's had a couple of disappointing games. He certainly hasn't been the player prior to hunt coming into the lineup You've you've got you know. He was like the running back three or four now always over the last eight weeks in the running back seven. He's still good. Yeah Lamar Jackson. You're playing him. You're playing him. If he's active under any circumstance arkham stance from the night before. So if I if I if I heard John Harbaugh come out and say yeah. I'm glad we clench this. You know go bills. We may give him a few playoff. Today I'm playing Lamar Jackson. Yes one hundred percent because I only need a few place unless they if he gets a half. A half of Lamar Jackson does find is probably better than what what ever other option you could possibly have. He's playing so well they bench him every game. Anyway exactly he. He doesn't score much in the fourth quarter of any of his games. And he's averaging like eight or nine more points points per game than the number. Two quarterback Jameis Winston over the last half of the year but thirty nine percent of you know that that would be the thirty nine percent of Championship Game Commissioners or Players that have on the roster the top five players as tweeted by Michael Fabiano Christian. McCaffrey at forty nine percent of championship teams. The Patriots D.. On forty two percent all my goodness. Oh it's not here but Darren Waller on forty one percent teams. Lamar Jackson on thirty nine percent and Austin actor might call before the season to to be a top ten running back on thirty two percent of teams Mark Ingram. You're GONNA play him. What do you do with Hollywood Brown so flashes last week but but you haven't had yardage tobacco up so he's gotta get in the end zone? But that's a decent probability with Lamar Jackson against Cleveland. I actually like Hollywood Brown quite a bit in this match up. This is you know you've got a revenge game narrative here this one only two teams that beat the Ravens Raves. GonNa WanNA come out and put their stamp of approval level on this game and I think Hollywood has been excellent. You had a stretch in the middle of the year where he was so banged up. They play a few snaps and still be okay. 'cause you'd catch a long bomb but he looks like he's recovered now and unless you know especially if the Patriots win and there's something to play for in this game I like Hollywood quite a bit. I don't think the Browns uh-huh Secondary Can stop a guy with that speed. You would you play Hollywood brown over somebody like Sterling Shepard playing the Roulette with Daniel Jones New York trusting Lamar a little bit more for personally. Play them over John. Ross Yeah I don't have that option. No no I know but you're just throwing out that they're both speedy guy is yeah you recent matchups. But one's got Lamar Jackson ones and number one on the team. Either Boyd is my start of the week. So I like Boyd more Obviously than Ross but desperate times Jason Desperate Championship Times looking at the other side cream hunt. Is he a flex play to you. Oh absolutely Kareem. Am Hunt since he got back in week. Ten is the running back fifteen. Would you rather flex cream hunt or Odell Beckham tune Kareem Hunt and is not close all right right Jarvis Landry. Congratulations you get to face pro Bowler Marlon Humphrey Odell Beckham. You get to play Face Pro Bowler. Marcus Peters congratulations. I'm so happy that the industry is finally caught up with Odell Beckham ing bad like every week. I have to move him down like ten spots from you know where where most people are and this week. He's by default in the low thirties. That's where it should be nice. Nice Week Sixteen to catch up. Yeah data. That's about it for the match up. You're playing mark. Andrews WanNa take a moment. 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Because it's been bad it's been so it's been awhile since he's helped. It's been terrible and I know I know for a fact effect one of our writers Lauren Carpenter Right now in her championship match-up. She has more on the bench and you know and she's got call out. Oh yeah because look MARLA MAC is. He's a home favourite by a large margin against the worst rushing defense in the league. It is a recipe for success for Marlin Mac back. That's why he's my started the week I you know the only possible scary situation here. I did hear Frank Reich. Say that they're going to try some new things things now that they're out of the playoffs with Jacoby percent. That's it maybe one of those things. Is there going to throw the ball. MARLA mackel little bit more. I thought maybe maybe percents would try. left-handed wouldn't be worse than last week. Here's the thing though. I like the match up but you need something to ensure or the game script right will greer insures it. Yeah bring him into the picture. Both of these teams thought they'd be divisional contenders. The cult of lost four in a row. The panthers have lost six in a row. They fired their coach. They're seeing what they got on the bench Remember the Ryan Finley experiment in Cincinnati. They wanted to see see what they had. Yes and maybe we'll gear will surprise but I'm not betting on it. His best feature is simply being named like my favorite cheese. Is that your favorite cheese. Oh are you talking about greer if I could. Nobody knows how to see it. That's why it's so special will greer. Yes it does not stink. I want stinky cheeses. No not you know. It's not too bad it's just. Some of them are eight up delicious. We'll see if it stinks. This week to perset did not play well last week. You're not these. These are not options. These are not quarterback options. We're talking about no but the wide receivers for both teams are the big question. Marks T. Y.. Hilton he fifty two percent of the stamps. Last week did not have a good game. I'm very limited. They talked about getting him more involved this week. And then Dj more Curtis Samuel the All. These guys have quarterback problems right now. Dj More or has enough volume. And he's done. He's had enough production without touchdowns in the past. You know eight weeks to where you can play. Dj More. I I am confident in. Dj More more at this point T. Y.. Hilton on the other hand. Look I I liked the price on Fan Dole when I was looking for the ballers on a budget segment later the question is do you trust t y Hilton and the answer. Sure is of course not no not in your championship week. Not with a an injury. Hobbling him right now not with the snap percentages now Jacoby. Bruce Sat Not with Frank Reich. Trying new things look thing number. One should be having a healthy t y Hilton next year to be honest with you so outside of of of Dj more not a lot of confidence on the wide receiver front not really willing to go to the Jack Doyle route myself. I am not either. He's he's been in like watching the last few games. I've had him in some lineups and he's just been a step slow. These big heavy linebackers are covering him. No PROB blame. Oh and then Greg. Olsen we've differed on our opinion on whether Greg Olson will be heavily involved in this game but we haven't really talked like would you play them. I think you said you wouldn't blame and fantasy. You just expect them out there. Thomas tossed into irrelevance again and will greer gives you know confidence across the board. Don't know what he's going to do so you know. Go go with other. Go with the ages this week is that we. The tight end added the H. R.. Who burs in the Howards and okay? HOLLISTER's yeah that's that's a good tip. Yup Holloway get him out there Jackson. No Jacksonville five and nine. Taking on the Atlanta Falcons and Falcons are five and nine Falcons are seven and a half point favorites. I would take the Falcons and the you know to cover the Jaguars imploding. Although they did win last week. Yeah Yeah. We had that The little last-second Conley touchdown forty six and a half point over under Atlanta's Atlanta's at Home Matt Ryan Jason's started the week at the quarterback position. He leads the League in pass attempts. He's been pretty darn good and we realized this on the serious show show yesterday. He's been started the week on this show for three consecutive weeks and and the last two times has been a top ten quarterback so why not complete the TRIFECTA. Let's do three three. Yeah and I like Devante Freeman. devante Freeman was my started. The weak at the running back position six six consecutive weeks Jacksonville's giving up top performances to the running back. And you're just in a position where you know devante Freeman get fifteen to nineteen touches overall and that has meant a lot when you face Jackson have we have. We vetted this. Is He really leading. The League in passing attempts are because he missed three games or two games right. I mean he missed games if he's leading the League in passing attempts while missing games. That's a really cool stat could be a big lie. It could be really really cool. Lie but I take I will take a little look see I can fire people here. I mean this doc even says Mike started the weakest. devante the freemen. And that's mine. So this could be allies. Come on I mean from a trust perspective. Mike I think Mike's fall. He's not here to defend. Ajay blames. Mike Yeah But you can check that. Maybe that's per game basis. But he's he's throwing the ball out he hasn't had running the freemen's miss time this year and Matt Matt Ryan has been able to. It's funny through the first six weeks. You Know Matt Ryan was a top five quarterback during that time. Okay so Matt Ryan is five hundred twenty. The leader is Winston at five fifty four but on a per game basis. That makes he's number one. Yeah Okay Gardner men shoot. No thank you Leonard Internet. He's Kinda stuck in your lineup right. I mean Leonard. Fournette is not somebody that you're going to bench. He's had a couple of subpar weeks outside the top twenty four but you're gonNA playing playing against the Atlanta. What are we expecting? Another Julio Touchdown Jones performance you you put in a call last week You said Julio Bill Adams Middle Name and I'm a little worried this week on the touchdown part because he doubled dipped last week. Install writing one each week but No He's been awesome fifty one percent of the target or the target's share last week. More than half Matt Ryan has passes went his direction. They won the game. They're at home. I think Julio you know Calvin Ridley should have a another monster game here against a team. That's you know. Okay there middle of the pack against wide receivers. Yeah they're floundering. Dj Chart Limited practices Wednesday and Thursday. He's got forty four yards and needs to accumulate to hit one bows in this year. What yeah he's a thousand yard receiver? How are you surprised? That's a great question but I just feel like he hasn't done. I thought your surprise was literally just that. He hasn't done it already. I mean he's been gobbling up yardage especially at the front end of the season dealing with injury now but but even in a you know injury short game he had a ton weight Oh. Dj charq correct the name. I said that makes that makes one hundred. I'm like that can't be true elegant. What did you hear that you were talking about Chris? Conley that's different name and aim. He is not that. Close two thousand dollars. That is correct. Yeah honestly so you saw been a different name for any of these stats nick. They're always wrong. Close to a thousand yards. Be True but no DJ charged is. Yeah that makes complete sense. He I think he's going to be back out there. But then you look at that situation and you cannot play Westbrook brooking Conley. No but the question is can you play. Dj Charge if he's active. Would you play. Dj Charge if he's active Orabi Anderson in that matchup and for for me. I go chart. I like go there because Robbie's like in the forties for me while I'm probably going to be lower on Charq than most people. I don't think it's it's GonNa be that low. I was pretty confident. That truck would have a nice game if you could get back out there last week just with the propensity of Gartner inches. Just heavily targets shark. You're so if he's out there. I'm okay with that Austin Hooper. I've been super bummed out the last two weeks. He's back but is he. Yeah he's back but he kinda China like three weeks back from this injury he should be. He should be fully healed ready to go full strength. Last week he had a touchdown that was. Then you know the balked touched the ground. A little in. There's debate in town. I think it should have whatever but the point is you wouldn't have been disappointed last week if that call was not overturned turned and so another week of health at home in a dome. I'm awesome Hooper's name exactly. Yeah raiders at six and eight take on the five and nine. chargers chargers are seven point. Favorites is a forty five and a half point over under charges. Were absolutely you destroyed last week when you look at these two teams charters being seven point favorite. Save a worse record than the raiders. But I expect them to get it done at home. That is weird. A seven point point favorite. And they're on the road because make no mistake. This will be a home. Game for the raiders in Los Angeles. That crowd will one hundred percent. Be Oakland Raider. Fans this is. I don't feel like I feel like the chargers are going to cover this spread. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Okay the the raiders in their in. Your defense have not done much to say we can score or stop people from scoring lately. They lost to the Jaguars at home. Let's let's face off in some of these fantasy decisions from this game because I think there is opportunity here but you haven't been able to rely on options you're so you will get hunter Renfro back out there so talk to me about Darren Waller is his sealing captain hunter in froze back out there this week. Yeah soon as hunter. RENFRO has been on the field soaking up targets once he got that. Start couple of weeks into the season you saw a dip of Darren Waller's targets and then hundred fro goes out and waller is back so now if hunter Renfro is expected to be out there. I expect more of those targets to go his way than Waller's lurs way so it's not to say you can't start waller. You shouldn't start. Waller Waller was still startle while hunter and I was out there you know multiple weeks but I do think his ceiling is capped. What you saw last week? You know we're we got to the championship and League. One Waller is on that roster. It was great so many targets on his way. I don't I don't I don't think that happens in this game. Okay and then Are you taking a shot. Are you willing to Stream Philip rivers. I know you have problems with him on on a deep psychological emotional personal level. But when you look at the match up the raiders. Give up twenty two point one fancy points per game to the quarterback position that second worst in the league. Philip rivers is at home. Mike Williams Austin actor Keenan Allen they can overcome what has been Philip rivers. This this year in this matchup I really believe they can. I think rivers as a shot at a top twelve week. Can I interest you in two hundred seven passing yards it. Just not enough off if I added three interceptions. You're going back in time. I'm going back five weeks to win. They played the Oakland Raiders. And the smash matchup seemed so good that Philip rivers and all these weapons could overcome member. They had to travel so far to get to Oakland. Yeah I I. I can't do it if you're in a two quarterback league the matchup does say and the weapons do say that he should have a good game but this has been the year this. This is the end of Philip rivers. He's looked he certainly of your Philip rivers experience. Yes but I've gotten off the right. I think it's the end of the chargers rivers experience. Yes I think that they will be looking to replace him. They already are looking to replace in the half to Melvin Gordon Austin actor we have them at rb eleven and fourteen eighteen on the week. This is a great opportunity. Matchup before last week's Dud for Melvin Gordon. He had been a top twenty four running back seven consecutive weeks. Austin Blur needs no explanation. He's the RB six on the season and just too integral to the offense. I've looked Mike Williams way a few times this week. He's been on fire. He's finding getting into the end zone. Not Quite started the week category but he's hanging out at the same outside the club. Yeah he's definitely start a ball while he's not necessarily the start of the week if you look at the last three weeks and you take a look at the chargers and okay you know obviously keen announced gonNA start but can you start Mike Williams. Well my goal has been better than Keenan Allen. The last three weeks being a top twenty four wide receiver each each of those weeks for Mike Williams. And that's not to say Keenan Allen has been bad they're both Mike. Williams been the wide receiver thirteen and Keenan Allen the wide receiver eighteen over the last three weeks. It's good matchup but the telestrator your point that we talked about this off air the other day the gap between these two is monumental usually in our rankings. We look just putting and then we and then we second guess herself say why. Why why are we saying? Keenan is a must start and Mike Williams is like in a pinch when the targets and the depth of target and the yardage is kind of being spread out evenly between these guys. Yeah and Tyrel. You can't play Tyrone Williams. No cannot do it. The chargers cornerback allowing the third fewest fantasy points in Oakland wide receivers. Not Reliable at this point. I'm the Darren Waller's much better play than tyrod Williams yes I still think while there has a very solid game for us in league one because I gave them a call I said Darren touchdown waller you see it on San Dan play. Pr Guy last week. Play the the Clinton needs you dare. And before we move on the Andre Washington situation we know Jacobs is out people want to know where Washington is. Would you play Washington or Mike Moon this week if boone is secured as the starter Ardo Monday night football Washington or boon. If I knew for sure I have flipped if I knew for sure and I feel very confident right now. That it's Boon Boone is ahead in my rankings. As of now but I really like Washington as well. I think you know about the running back twenty as a good spot. The chargers have such a good past. And I don't think that their car and Hunter Renfro. And even Darren lawlor are going to be able to do enough to you. No no matter against the chargers past but they don't have a good run D.. And so I think Andrea Washington is going to be able to succeed here. The lions at three ten in one take on dimmer. broncos and Denver Broncos are five and nine. This game has very low over under thirty seven and a half points but the broncos are heavy favorites so the implied light point total for Denver. Twenty two points just fifteen point five points for the lines as I am. All in on the broncos defense this week. They're starting in my I championship match-up over good options like Atlanta I ne- Atlanta's a good defensive streaming off the waiver. Pick up this week. I'm playing being them. I'm playing the Broncos over that one. What question are you having this game? Though I mean Mike has brought up Portland Sutton as a sort of the week. Can I get it. Lions the Lions Defense gives up thirty three points a game. Too wide. Receivers in Portland Sutton is the wide receiving corps. Yes yes and there are at home so I don't see how you you. You should not bench Portland Sutton last week. He had ten targets. You give them ten targets against Detroit. Roy It's going to work out. Well yeah absolutely. So He's in your lineup. Kerryon Johnson might be able to play. He expects to be able to play he hopes to be able to play. You're not gonna you could give you want the drought. That's not an appropriate drop. No for somebody that has been injured for the majority of the trying to say that super fast. Because you didn't want me to jump jump in with disappointing or anything of that nature. You just want it to be marked by injury. I think the injury is the major mark. Okay I I mean really do it. Last year this year I think career okay. I would say Chris Making that point. Yeah I wouldn't be tempted in Denver. This is not a good situation. If he's back he might be back with Abo- scarborough someti- Johnson and a whole lot of David Blah. The broncos defenses. This is good from top to bottom. There's they don't really have a weakness the way that the chargers are great against the past week against the run. This isn't a great spot and you can't imagine that they're gonNA come in and give Kerryon carry-on Johnson some major workload on his first game back from being injured often. So you know carry on Johnson. No thanks thanks. No thanks Kenny. GOLLY IS HE GONNA go play. Great Kenny carry on play. Great carry on. I just want him to show show show out. I want him to be great. Okay so broken. Broken Philip Lindsay. We haven't as the RB eighteen this week. It's a plus match that's up there at home. The game scripted favor running back. The lions are bad from top to bottom. You might say they're not really strong against anything direct opposite defense so Lindsay confident this week. Yeah done everything he can to not make fantasy owners confident rb thirty one over the last five games. That's bad it is. It is bad. I mean you you've got a guy who looks good on film but doesn't get enough. Carey's doesn't enough targets doesn't get the goal line work necessarily early and at the end of those three things that fantasy points aren't there so he's he's someone that I think is a flex option In a good match I chop. But you're worried I mean you you. Just if he doesn't get a touchdown his games have been bad and this is a game with thirty seven and a half point over under. We don't expect a ton of points to to be had. You don't expect the tunnel yards in this game back and forth so He's he's not someone I'm excited minded about When you went back to Beckon Kerryon Johnson for a good game for some reason We were beginning to talk about kidney polity and in that situation there I'm trying to find a player to play over Kinney Golladay. This week makes sense because the realistic outcomes outcomes in this match up on the road for David Blau is that Kenny golladay catches one bomb type of play. He's moved categorically into that. Big Play or touchdown required David. How would you agree with that? Yeah so smooth routes. Are we expecting them this week. Let me give you some options. Okay are you playing. You're playing sutton over Golladay yes EXAC matchup. Yes are you playing. Somebody like de became metcalf over. Golladay I am I am not okay. Are you playing Jarvis Landry. Oh Man Darvish Jars so good such bad match up. I will not play Jarvis over Kennedy last last one Michael Gallup. Oh man this this goes from. I want to be start of the week Michael Gallup. I'm you know I'm a worry. Work Wart Art. I can't can't ever say it the second time. Some sort of but the reality is I. Don't trust Dak shoulder right now. So so I'm GONNA go Kenny. Jeeter I still trust Kinney Gaudi's talent is not a good match up. It's a low over under and it's not a good quarterback but I mean you've had a stretch stretch run of those type of situations were Golladay is still been okay. I mean wh what week did Matthew Stafford go out because if you in it hasn't all been Blau allow your driscoll supplied some production. Yeah but it's not like driscoll is some great quarterback either. My point is no no this week. Eight what where's can you call it. What what what wide receiver rank do you think I mean he's Been Ping Pong? Yeah since week eight yeah. I don't know fifteen five. He's just super talented. It's hard to sit a guy. That's that talented. Yeah but you've faced that same situation with Sutton one many times this year. Where confidence is tough and certain match up? Yeah but But you illustrated it with the players that you would and wouldn't start over the cardinals at four nine and one travel to Seattle the seahawks at eleven in three seahawks ten point favorites fifty one point over under Russell Wilson my star of the week here at home battling for that one seed Kyla Murray. Are you willing to play him. In this game Jason One hundred percent I am willing to play keiler. Murray in this. This game the Seattle's defense ranked thirty. First in passing touchdown rate Cuyler last week had had a great game but four touchdowns wins the Kenyan Drake Direction. Rake and so I. I am fine with Kyle. Marie I think he's a good start this week. All right Kenyan drake you just mentioned him. Steve just came out this morning. So they WANNA re-signing if they can bring back he's up to the. Rb Twenty on the year. Sea Hawks Defense. I you know drake has to be an rb to to rb three this week. Yeah you're not chasing four touchdowns he he. He hasn't been that great for fantasy outside of two games where he was phenomenal for fantasy. You don't WanNa lose out on that. But he is the clear starter and this is a decent matchups. SEAHAWKS are middle of the pack as far as defense goes now this is in Seattle But Yeah I would say rb to play for Kenyan. Drake pretty impossible to bench. That guy. That just probably got you to the title on four touchdowns. Yeah Yeah. You're he's going to be in most is people's lineup. Any key clearly is the running back that will get the opportunity on the goal. Line 'cause three those touchdowns came right there at the goal line Kristen Kirk Tyler Lockett. Ah Decay Metcalf. Kirk has missed some time this week. I'm not super excited about him. On the road. Here to be honest He averages a ton of targets but he missing some more time. This week tells me he's not quite back from what's been ailing. Him Tie had a lock seen back last week week. Fifteen for one. Twenty and a touchdown he gets a rookie in Byron Murphy for the majority of this game I think Tyler Lockett is a League winner. Tyler Lockett is good. Play Decay. Metcalf is fine. He's you know this is the type of matchup where you okay. This is good unless the touchdowns go hollister's way which against Arizona could very well happen. I'm not even though I say. Keiler is fine because his rushing rushing. I'm not sure who as an Arizona Pasqua try would really WANNA start. Larry hasn't been great. Kirk hasn't been great you know. He's he's spread the ball around. You've got the postman. The Postman is back Dan. Arnold remember him at tight end. Seattle's been terrible against tight in. Daniel caught a touchdown last week. Maybe be Dan. Arnold gets another touchdown. cuyler would be fine. Larry and Kirk not so not so great. Yeah Yeah so Hollister we've talked about him quite a bit this week. A great tight end option. Not only because his name begins with h but because he believes cardinals cowboys at seven seven and seven take on the Eagles at seven seven. Oh what a game it's exciting. It's fun we've got the Dak Prescott shoulder headache to sort through. Got Word this this morning. That it's trending positively for Lane Johnson to be back out there for Philadelphia fantastic. It's a big deal for Carson Wentz. It's a big deal for miles sanders and just the offense offense moving the chains. Something they've struggled to be able to do over the last two weeks only to piece it together at the very end of those matchups. Who Do you like? Who Do you like to win this game? The cowboys are one and a half point favorites. The cowboys coming into this week. We're definitely the team. I was picking but I you know I've said I am worried about the shoulder issue and if it acts up back can't be the deck you know here's the here's the range of outcomes for deck either his shoulders fine and he's great. This is a very good matchup. Is You know a number. Six number. Seven quarterback on the week has a solid week in the cowboys. Come Out and win or doc shoulder isn't good and he's either missing throws or they've got a game plan to run with Ezekiel Elliott. And you know Gallup and Cooper take a major hit. Because they're not throwing the ball downfield and it the game slows down and it's a slug fest in division and so both of those being within the the realistic range of outcomes to me makes me want to pivot off of cowboy options. If I have good replacements I'm coming around on on like I think Dallas wins the football game coming around on being okay. We went through this. You play deck in your championship match. Yeah I'd be willing to. Yeah Yeah I mean we we through this a little bit last week. With Lamar in the Mars the different you know a different category but all week long there was worry about the quad. Worry about whether where he'd run his team DAX team expects them to be out there. You you can't run on Philadelphia. You might choose to. You might choose to do it. You just can't do it very well. And certainly they're going to put put it on deck to beat them their secondary very beatable. I think back in this game with what's on the line. I think he steps up and I. I don't have any reason to believe today more than yesterday that he's you know more severely hurt or not going to be available not gonNA be out there. He played the majority of that game last week with with the injury. And I'm just trending more in the positive direction for Dak in general not without risk. But just I'm just giving you my opinion. Sure DECA injured in the first quarter so the vast he didn't leave the game the the whole game he played with that injury. But that's where you had Amari cooper with nineteen yards Gallup. I think with six yards and Randall cobb with negative three yards and didn't really do much all Zeke and yes. It's very difficult to run on Philly to has been the whole year but I mean they they ran on they have a special offensive line. I mean Ezekiel Elliott was twenty twenty carries for one hundred eleven yards and a touchdown the last two two times. These teams played a granted that was in Dallas. Maybe that makes a difference but I think they're going to be able to run better than we expect. All right Zeke. By the way the only running back to be in the top twenty four every single week this year sounds it sounds very Z. Like yeah he is exactly where he was drafted. ADP that's where he's ranking drinking right now on the season so he's been fine but you hoped he would be better you hold up yeah yeah sorry Carson Wentz where yeah with him. This week you messing around with Carson Wentz I'm trying to not mess around with Carson Wentz. You know I've Got Matt Ryan Carson Winston One of my championship rosters. It's an easy Matt Ryan for me. This game could be an ugly ski. You know scrap and folklore on fight type of Game I I don't I don't think this is going to turn turn into a high-scoring barn burner you hear Sean. Jackson might be back for the play offs. What playoffs I saw the future? Oh that's right. Oh that's the funny thing about me. Picking the cowboys here is. It would be better for my. You Know Super Bowl prediction. Yeah my suit seeing if the eagles fought their way into the playoffs but Thanks D Jackson Coulda used you the entire year but the playoffs. That's great. That's great man Mile Sanders Mike. Mike started the week at running back. He's just been so heavily involved ever since Jordan. Howard gone out? Nothing's changed Jordan. Howard Boston Scott? Still getting snaps in the backfield involved in the passing game. It's high risk but I. I don't have a problem flexing Boston. Scott this matchup purchase options are limited for Carson Wentz. If you're in a full PR. I completely agree because he he's he's going to have six or seven catches Ju- Flex Boston's Scott in this game. Would you flex Anthony Miller against Kansas City. Oh Go oh anthony. Miller Anthony Miller has been to involve eh is not the greatest matchup. But I'm not going to go away from someone who's like up near the legally and targets for a running back who's pretty much had two weeks in the NFL's what it seems like all right. And then you brought them up Amari Cooper Michael Gallup confidence against those seem to be directly connected to your view on Doc. You're finding options outside of them if possible I think that they are both risky risky with the situation. And with how they've been producing a big dud last week for Gallup and then coopers just struggled he went from the wide receiver three over the first seven weeks of the season to the wide receiver thirty-three over the remainder so that moves them out of the half the stardom under any circumstance category. We're certainly going devante Parker in our league. One League over Amari Cooper. He's GonNa find his way to the bench. which gives Mike incredible joy? Yeah I mean these guys are high risk but high reward if if if you're right if actual there's fine Dak doc is out there just playing average Dak football against the secondary Michael Gallup and and even Cooper Cooper's been fine. He doesn't look like the early season self. And he's been worse on the road and Yada Yada but he this eagles seconds giving it up to just about everybody haskins skins. May you know hasn't the top quarterback against exactly. Yeah it and that's that's where like on the Sirius. XM Show we said. What is the player or a situation? That is the very hard for you to weed through the. That's A. That's a phrase right. Yeah we go with that For this particular week and I I think the Dallas situations a hard one. Not You know because there is such potential upside in the matchup because if DAX fine and look if last week you could have given them a week off between the first and second quarter and the game script different. He's probably throwing the football quite a bit more than he was and they have some. They have some methods in these locker rooms to get a guy ready and get a guy able to go. So there's a lot on the line in the call in this game so it's all about the options you have elsewhere how it affects your risk but I'm more confident than you. Are this week at least Here on Friday Friday Yeah Zacharias you play. Yeah I I agree now. Dallas Godart last name does not begin with the letter H. But it's close. It's close in the alphabet. I Bet G. H.. They're right next to each. Yeah there right so this. He'll prolly perform right next to some of those H. Yes so he's going to be the the tight end thirteen this week nonstop twelve but he's close. Yeah Four for sixty nine and a touchdown against Dallas in week seven Dallas has not been good against Titan Sickie Gaseke and other GE three or got it. I got it because of the combination of the cowboys. Not being great against tight end along with the Eagles Eagles not having any options to pass the ball to that aren't tight end. I mean you've got you see the. Jj whiteside is now injured while he did get banged up last week and now he's injured in practice. Yeah he was he was missing practice. So you know. If he's out Nag Laura's out now Sean Jefferies Outon and you know maybe you can take a look at at it makes guttering ward the better option. Greg Ward Desperation Play Greg Ward or John. Ross it's a lot of silence. Oh that's a man who has somehow been twisted up by a middling wide receiver. Four four questions go grab ward there. I would go greg I would take the number one wide receiver in a more difficult matchup. Inter still some weather concerns for the Tampa game name. I'll have to consider my trust of your analysis which to date. I mean on this show a lot of it's been alphabetical off. Consider that a little bit with my John. Russia's Don Roche decision. Yeah yeah all right Sunday night football chiefs ten and forebear seven and seven chief six point favorites on the road in Chicago. Chicago's defense believe it or not has not been a top ten defense and fantasy football since week. Four you're so they have been solid but not special on the defensive side. Kansas City on the other hand is trending up. Oh in a big way in a in a way that can get you a super bowl. Yes for sure I mean the chiefs defense is a strength now and it's amazing amazing work because they were a huge weakness and we've seen this before specifically with Andy Reid teams where the first half of the year. The defense is bad and and he figures out his personnel and he gets them clicking and they become a very solid defense. So this is you know you look Anthony Miller. WHO's been on fire a lot of targets of very reliable now the Gabriel's out and then you think about the chiefs and Pat Mahomes you go. Oh this it's GonNa be high scoring game. They're going to need to air it out. This is perfect but it just hasn't actually been that way in truth because chief secondary with the honey badger has been much improved. He's been phenomenal. They've been great so I worry about that. I don't worry about Alan Robinson Gay. Ah You had a shocking revelation yesterday. Yeah I was looking at. I think it was week four. Yeah I think it was since week. Four I was looking up the numbers for devante Parker and he. You know that was where you had The first three weeks or josh roses so I WANNA see from week four and low and behold devante Parker was wide receiver five live but since week four Allen Robinson is the wide receiver four. He has been awesome just so consistent. And that's on the back of massive massive target volume over the last four weeks Allen Robinson has more targets than Michael Thomas so Robinson I'm I'm I'm confident in. He is an extremely talented player. And when you get the League leading targets I'm cool and then Anthony Miller the targets have been there for a while Since Week Eleven Evan I think he's the wide receiver eight in that Spanish average. Ten plus targets game. I love trusting targets above all other things right is not. You're not looking at touchdown variant. You're looking being in these. Are the two guys playing wide receiver on this team very possible that there. There's a deficit to be overcome even in even in as far as the chiefs Stevens being so good. Look you play a Dif. You play a different defensive Strategy in the fourth quarter of a game down three scores. So there's always opportunity when these guys are running around on each and every play the game I don't think Anthony Miller is a bad play this week. Yeah Yeah I mean I I totally I totally understand that and I don't think he's a terrible play but I you know he has been really good you. I'm just thinking back to. It's not just targets it's been play. He has looked good. He's taken he's a he's a second year wide receiver. WHO's taken that leap forward to look like what they were hoping? They drafted the same way. That Portland Sutton has yeah. He's he's getting more trust of the coaching staff. More plays drawn up for him in making those plays. It's you know. Kansas City's defense has been good but the volume has been there for the bears in every match up. That's all I'm saying. Yeah I get. We've got him. He's obviously not on the Ellen Robinson level of trust but you know he's in the wide receiver thirty rain right now for US consensus wise And if you like pain disappointment and kind of slowly rising to mediocrity numbers. David Montgomery is an an option for you this week. I don't okay. I don't like those things. He hasn't been special on the field. It's taken really really plus match ups for me to like him. He needs a touchdown to be successful and You know I'm not very confident in him. In this game you always play tyreek Hill always one hundred percent. It doesn't matter the match up it doesn't matter the weather it doesn't matter anything. Play tyreek Hill and Mahomes is in your lineup. Do you mess around with any running back options in Kansas City. Not One now. There is nobody buddy I put in the lineup with any kind of confidence. We've named people this episode. That are much better. I mean Adrian Peterson smashes all of these guys also one positive note on Sammy. Watkins for you. Yes he's been nominated for a footy the Lizard King. That's a great nickname of the a year. That's a great nickname. Maybe he can do something by the way. If you want to submit some nominations for the footy awards you can go Hey Brooks is it pinned on Dr twitter account at the F. F. Ballers yes sir nicknames and favourite show moment of the year now okay all right very prestigious very procedures. footy awards coming coming very soon packers. Vikings Monday night football vikings five and a half point home favorites. Did you know that before. Four the Vikings play this game. They can clinch the playoffs. That would be if the rams lost on Saturday. That's right. Yeah Rams lose the day before for the Vikings are clenched now. That's there's still something to play for here 'cause because they're playing the packers. I think they can still win the division. That's true so that's good. That's good news but just worry like yeah they're gonNA play. It's division man. Yeah and and look the Vikings. They've turned the season around. They had a slow start. Bunch of question marks Weird passing volume. Here they are with ten wins favored at home against Green Bay. I like the Vikings being so in this game do you I do. You can have to overcome having no Dalvin Cook. And he's he's integral but Adam Phelan's back out there savan digs and kirk cousins. I think they can get the job done. It's going to be very fun. There are some very very exciting. The Bills Patriots Game Right. Yes This packers Vikings game and then the Dallas Philadelphia Game. Three are just such delete. Delete must've really strategically done this. I mean you also have rams forty niners which there's there's not anything on the line but there could have been in you know. Oh they always put those those important original games at the end of the year to make the moments like this happen for you and for me. Championship moments Kirk cousins. We have him as the quarterback Tim by consensus ranking this week It's not a good matchup but he has been pretty solid what I think you can. I think you can roll them especially now that he has Adam feeling back good at home. I don't think Adam thiel going to be limited anymore war. He seems like he's back back. Yeah Kirk cousins at home eighty percent of his passes. That's what he's completing. That's a good number. That's that's a good number predict not good Aaron Rodgers. We know the story with Aaron. It's more more often than not. You're happy if you didn't play him and you played somebody else. He hasn't this. This is crazy. He hasn't thrown for more than two hundred and fifteen passing yards in Minnesota so on the road in Minnesota in five years why they play Minnesota each and every a year. I mean this is the definition of what happens. When you're in a situation like this you know divisional game everything on the line? The the Vikings only giving up sixteen point one fantasy points per game. On the year two quarterbacks the Vikings are very exposed specifically to wide receivers and wide receivers beating deep. But then they haven't given up a ton to the quarterback because they locked down the pass catching for running backs they locked down. It tight ends pretty well so I don't think there's good matchup prayer in Rogers. I'm not gonNA play in Rogers. The wide receiving core that can take advantage of this. I'm not trusting when you talk about the core not trusting. Play Davante Adams. And that's it. That's IT Aaron Jones. You probably have always in your lineup. He's in your lineup. Is Highs are too oh hi to not have the chance to get. This isn't a great match up for him and then Jamal Williams is that he's more of a pivot option. If you run into trouble with you know suddenly Alexander Madison's active and your mic buner and you're wanting to count on that big Monday game. Well at least you could maybe pick up a guy like Jim Williams off the waiver wire info and pivot to him. Yeah we talked a lot about boone but this question was posed to me this morning. I just WanNa see your answer. Would you play Mike Boon and a good matchup at home favored against a very beatable. I mean th. They're the Green Bay. Packers are twenty fifth against the run. Or would you play Aaron Joan. Oh Aaron Jones. Yeah Okay Yeah thank you for waiting a long time to get to that point. I wanted to get you to say Mike Boone. No and because here's the IT gets. It gets complicated in these situations. Sometimes where you just kind of hand the roll off to a player. And you forget that you also have Amir Abdul. They're Mike Boone could miss a blitz pickup or J. M.. Could take the passing word. Exactly exactly there are variables beyond just like Dalvin. Cook is out Madison. Gets one hundred percent of everything. Madison's Al Boone gets one hundred. That's not how it works. I mean they WANNA win the football game and if Boone messes up or they get a golden opportunity and boone fails twice. You could see somebody else next time. That's all I'm saying it's like he's is not Aaron Jones. I hear you start Amir Abdul. That's trauma and Haskins right Haskins in Abdulah to to all right Anything else from this game that you WanNa touch on Stefan digs. We haven't fifteen on the week leading the league in yards per target. He always needs a big play. Play to kind of give you a big day. Big Play Big Day big play big day. I'm not starting any tight ends in this match up. If I had to be Rudolph I would never touch Jimmy Graham. You wouldn't even like you took a restraining order out on yourself. That's right. I'm not allowing a hundred yards of Jimmy. Graham the bottlers on a budget presented by fan duel. Okay okay I like yours better dude minds awesome. That's the real price My I couldn't believe it so here I'll start talk about that. All right by the way reminding reminding our listeners. You can go to Fan Duel Dot com slash ballers to participate this week. The fantasy football there's leaderboard series. We've got our budget picks today. This is Kumble a juicy one. This is the best week. Look if you're listening and you haven't gotten in yet at FANEUIL DOT com slash ballers. This is the best week because there will probably be the fewest amount of people that you are competing against to win so go to faneuil dot com slash. 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Hollywood Brown of fifty seven hundred is such a good price that I am in for sure over the fake superstar Sir. Yes over the fate of Justin fake superstar Watson. Thank you No I love that. Hollywood brown great upside at that price. Also love the The price on my side of the week. Tyler Boyd. Just sixty two hundred you gotta pay more for Adam. Phelan going up against Green Bay without confidence in his hamstring. And what that game's GonNa look like back in Boyd gets the play Miami and that secondary that look somebody's going to put up a big game against them. The odds are that it's Tyler Boyd. The Guy who leads the team in targets over over a John. Ross Boyd at sixty two hundred very cheap very inexpensive compared to the value. I think you're GONNA get from him. So are two dollars on a budget picks all right we WANNA studio sponsor pristine auction a Kinney Golladay signed Jersey sixty eight dollars eighty cents yesterday at Pristine Auction Dot Com. 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Fantasy Football Today Podcast

05:47 min | 10 months ago

Eagles Injuries, Lions RBs and Downgrading Le'Veon Bell (08/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"What's up fantasy football today fans this is the debut episode of fantasy football today and five and yeah I'm dropping this in the feed for the main feed. But that will not be a regular occurrence just letting you know you're just going to hear the first episode here. What I want you to do is go over to fantasy football today and five anywhere you listen to podcasts spotify apple podcasts, stitcher wherever download and subscribe, and let's get this show started. Another injury for the Philadelphia Eagles this time it's jalen Reagan and other bad report for Levy on bell and much more from around the NFL landscape fantasy football today in five starts right now. Welcome everybody today is August, thirty first. It is Monday morning you're listening to fantasy football today in five a podcast to get you caught up fast on the fantasy news and advice that you need to know follow stream on spotify and anywhere else podcasts for found. Colluding Apple podcasts and Stitcher, and so many places I'm Outta Mazer I'm joined by Jamie Eisenberg. Let's start with the big news Jalen Reiter Attaran his shoulder he's out three to four weeks for now what does this mean for the Eagles offense? Let's talk about Carson Wentz his fantasy value. I mean, clearly it's a, it's a downgrade for Raider who being drafted in the latter half of drafts. Now, basically undrafted unless you know you're going, sit on him for. A few weeks while he's out and who knows if it's only three to four weeks, you know based on the season being so close. So it's it's Glatt downgrade for him as an upgrade for guys like Sean Jackson Greg Ward. J Dare, Sega Whiteside, and hopefully Sean. Jeffrey. You know we don't know if he's going to be back anytime soon but the tight ends booth Zakar Scottish not miles sanders and Boston. But for Carson Wentz, it's just another hit. You know a guy who's dealing with a back injury himself losing his left tackle and Andre. DILLARD. So the offensive line is banged up the receiving core is banged up he's up he still a low end starter. But now he's behind the elder statesman of Matt Ryan Tom Brady, and drew brees and to Sean Jackson I look week one is against Washington. He had a huge game in week one against Washington in two thousand nineteen he figures to be the primary wide receiver in week one where are you drafting Sean? Jackson? Still in the same spot again, we don't know how long rigor is going to be. Also the other side of that Israel comes back Jeffrey comes back. Jackson doesn't necessarily lead this team and targets I don't think he's GonNa lead the team in targets even if those guys are out first -nificant stretch of the season. So I think Jacksonville a guy you're looking at and around eight at the highest round ten probably the sweet. Spot for him better in non PR THAN PR. But again, if you do like that week one matchup which you should, then he could be in the number three wide receiver conversation flex conversation and hopefully he's done this before it's not as Washington he has a big week one time and time again. I Cooper Cup has an ankle injury but not expected to be serious he's expected to be fine so we'll skip that for now. Jamie. Eisenberg. Are you ready for the offer of a lifetime? Okay. Do you WANNA be a New York jets running back? I asked the jets fan on Sunday? If you could have if you love EON bell and you're getting fifteen million dollars a year to go through hell or would you take ten million dollars a year to be in the happiest place on earth? What would you do and the jets fan said while you probably take the money because the money and started overlook that type scenario and you hope you make the best of the best of a bad situation but this is awful. And I don't put this on Levy on bell per se as much as I do Adam gays situation if you are going to try and win game you're GonNa try and lean on Levy on bells much. You can not thirty seven year old frank war so bell is going to fall to a spot where he ended up probably being a good value pick for fantasy players but ADP right now around three around four if you're still taking him in that range, you are drafting him as a steeler not as a jet and certainly not as a jet and twenty twenty but the reports were that he's not running while he's not looking good. So where are you willing to take Levy on Bell? Before you pull trigger. Round five and PR would be the earliest round six in non I'm taking. Ronald Jones ahead of him in non I'm taking my ingram ahead of him might at this point take Brahim moster ahead of Levy on belt in non. But Jonathan Taylor David Johnson Todd Gurley Melvin Gordon all those guys should be going ahead of Levy on bell regardless of format is not a good situation for him because if the receptions come down, we saw the rushing as bad as it could be last year. I don't know what's going to be that much better and again. Adam. Gates. Frank War he's probably gonNA use springboard more so than we like to see for again, a guy who's thirty-seven-year-old and one final quick news item here Jamie de'andre swift the rookie running running back for the Detroit lions he's been out. For about a week now. So Kerryon Johnson, should he be moving up draft boards and when would you take Kerryon? Johnson one hundred percent Gary Now put himself in that round seven conversation. You know again, regardless of format swift was going around five range, and so the gap should close swift earliest is probably six and carry on the earliest it's probably run seven. But if you're looking for a guy to get off to a good start, swift is probably going to have to earn your stripes. I think it's GONNA come in. The passing game because that's what they've been talking about using him in that regard and carry on, they probably want to limit his touches because he has a hard time staying healthy but similar MARLA MAC. You're concerned about John and Taylor maybe having his workload increase as the season goes on and Marlin Matt getting a good start. I think those guys are very similar. I've always said they're very similar but now I would take of on ahead of Marlon because of the opportunity that he has as bad as Detroit, run game has been Still. Been Lead them in touch while he's healthy and this could be a good opportunity for also made up. For more extensive fantasy football coverage, listen to the fantasy football today podcast on spotify apple podcasts stitcher you're smart speakers or anywhere else podcasts are found and thanks for listening to fantasy football today in five our debut episode. Great to have you along. This is your audio Al for fantasy news and advice in five minutes or fewer. If you enjoy the POD, please leave a five star review in apple and we'll be back tomorrow.

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Pride Spotlight: Roberta Cowell

Encyclopedia Womannica

07:30 min | 1 year ago

Pride Spotlight: Roberta Cowell

"Hi I'm MARLA. Mac and I'm m. she's my daughter, she my mom together we make a podcast called how to be a girl, and we wanted to introduce a queer woman who has been featured on Encyclopedia Lion. Referred to cal who was transgender like me, but Roberta during a time when almost no one understood what it meant to be transgender along time ago. She helped blaze a trail for future generations of transgender people. She also drove race cars. Really Fat which is very. So cool. Now, here's host. Jenny Kaplan to tell you all about Roberta. Roberta cow. Flow from Wonder Media Network I'm Jenny Kaplan and this is encyclopedia will Manteca. Today's maverick was a war hero, race car, driver and Trans Pioneer. She changed the way people think about gender identity and two was the first known British Trans Woman to undergo sex reassignment surgery. Let's talk about Roberta cowl. Roberta was born in Nineteen, eighteen in Croydon England. She was one of three children born into an upper middle class family. Her father was a prominent surgeon, and her mother was interested in social work and the arts. Roberto later described her upbringing as strict, religious and moral and her family. Strong convictions led Roberta to be anti-religious for many years. Roberta struggled at school where students bullied her for her weight, but she found her place in the motor club. Roberto loved cars and dreamed of becoming a racing motorist from an early age. She was also interested in photography and filmmaking. At the age of Sixteen Roberta left school to work as an apprentice aircraft engineer and soon joined the Royal Air Force. In nineteen, thirty five Roberta became an acting pilot officer, but was discharged to motion sickness. Roberta returned to engineering and studied at the University College London. She wanted to become an automobile engineer. She thought cars had more personality than planes to get experience. Roberta addresses mechanic and sneak into race track service areas where she'd offer to help the drivers. In nineteen thirty six reporter fulfilled her childhood dream of motoracing and won her class at the land's end speed trial. By nineteen, thirty nine, she had competed in the Antwerp. Grand Prix two years later in nineteen, forty, one Roberta married. Diana Carpenter a fellow engineering student who shared her love of racing. They would go on to have two daughters. But World War Two was looming, and shortly before her marriage Roberta was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the army in nineteen, forty, two, she was transferred to the Royal Air Force and became a frontline spitfire pilot performing aerial recon. In her autobiography Roberta wrote about the dangers of flying during the war, she said narrow escapes a daily event. Several of my closest friends were killed and I. Regard It as just a matter of time. On one occasion Roberta lost all radio contact and had to find her way home through thick clouds, she almost crashed into the sea, but landed on cliffs right before her fuel tank had empty. On another occasion she survived the crash and was taken to a German POW camp where due to limited food, she said prisoners were forced to rock house. After the war Roberta started racing again and even founded a motor racing team, but she suffered from depression, and later described this period of her life as pointless and empty. By nineteen forty eight Roberta had separated from Diana and her depression worsened. She later said it was an attempt to make up for what I knew deep down inside me consciously. My nature was essentially feminine, and in some way my world out of joint. During this time, Roberta a woman named Lisa. Who would be her companion and friend for the next thirty years. After an illegal surgery back in Michael Dylan the first trans men to undergo Falah Plassey Roberta was able to be diagnosed as intersex which allowed her to change the sex on her birth certificate to female. In nineteen fifty, four Roberta sold the story of her gender reassignment surgery to newspapers. The, public was fascinated though the concept of changing one's gender was new and often misunderstood. News reports confused sexuality with Gender Identity and transgender women were assumed to be homosexual men. Roberta's story broke that narrative as she had previously been married to a woman, and they had two children, plus her experience with combat, service and motor racing were considered very masculine accomplishments and perceived to be unusual for transgender women Roberta continued to race in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven. She won the Shell's Lee Walsh Speed Hill climb. But determined to get back into top line driving. Could you goals the only way of life? In Nineteen Fifty Roberta acquired a combat aircraft and intended to perform a record breaking flight across the South Atlantic, but the project was never completed, and later that year Roberta was declared bankrupt, Roberta struggled to find employment and her financial issues worsened. While she continued to race cars well into the nineteen seventies. She largely remained out of the public eye. In the nineteen nineties. Roberta moved into a London nursing home. In Two thousand eleven at the age of ninety three, she died. She instructed that her death not be publicized, and only six people attended her funeral in lieu of flowers. Her friends hung a sign that said Roberta cowl racing over her coffin. Roberta's courage is notable, not just for her bravery in the face of war, but also for her extraordinary fight against societal norms, taffer gender identity recognized. All May or talking about Mavericks and legends we're highlighting women who went against prescribed gender norms to make a name for themselves for better or for worse, some of these women did incredible things for society and should be celebrated. Others had an impact that was not so rosy. The collection of women were featuring this month is complex and nuanced much like all women are tune in tomorrow to hear the story of another maverick or legend. If you haven't heard the news I'm really excited to share that. We launched an encyclopedia lamonica membership program. As it will maniac, you'll have access to weekly events and more. Join our first live event. This Thursday for all. Be Doing you. All about what goes on behind the scenes and what's coming next? Become a maniac at glow dot FM Slash Manica. That's G., L., O. W. DOT FM Slash Manica. You can also find the Lincoln are episode nodes. Special thanks to Liz Caplan, my fever, sister and co-creator Talk to you tomorrow.

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FFT in 5: Boston Scott and More Start or Sit for Week 1 (09/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Fantasy Football Today Podcast

05:42 min | 9 months ago

FFT in 5: Boston Scott and More Start or Sit for Week 1 (09/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Good morning and happy week one everybody is Boston Scott going to win you a fantasy week is Mike. Evans going to lose you a fantasy week. If he in fact plays in week one, we'll talk about that right now on fantasy football today in five. Welcome everybody today is September thirteenth. Today we've all been waiting for. You are listening to fantasy football today in five a podcast that get you caught up fast on the fantasy news an advice you need to know following, stream us on spotify and wherever else podcast found I'm Outta, baiser joined by Heath Cummings? Who is definitely more of a morning person than. I am Good Morning Heath is finally here week one super duper exciting I was downstairs getting my coffee come up to do the pod. My wife says have fun. I thought you know I'm going to have some fun today we are in Boston. Scott. To be very fun to start okay. Where did you end up with sky in your rankings I've moved Around, quite a bit the last twenty, four hours right now I. Have Him Number Twenty, one and non PR number sixteen and full p P. R. I think we're GonNa see the Doug Peterson special where this is a committee type backfield with him and Corey Climent. Corey Clemenza borderline top thirty six running back for me in both formats as well. But I. Would expect Scott to handle a majority of the pass catching majority of the short yardage. He was very good in both roles last year, this is a guy averaging twenty fantasy points per game in his final four games. Last year and miles sanders only missed one of those. So you should start Boston Scott with confidence would you start Boston Scott or Melvin Gordon? Boston Scott both formats, todd Gurley or Boston Scott. I will go with girly. Amari Cooper tough match-up or Boston Scott. I. Am not like Jamie would tell you Boston Scott. Cooper I'm not. I'm not scared by the matchup. Okay. How about Devante? Parker tough match-up or Boston Scott. Definitely Boston Scott all right. How about Devante Parker or Corey Clement I would still go with Parker in that situation. Would you start clement over Antonio Gibson the Andrea swift makers I would start climate over the Andrea swift and camakers not Antonio Gibson I Mike Evans tough match-up. Well, he didn't do very well against the saints last year and according to rappaport he's likely to play but might be on a pitch count. Zero. Catches in one game against the Saints Four for sixty nine in one game against the Saints Starter Mike Evans. You're hoping that you're not starting in. My is the way I'm handling it I. It's a very difficult match up with Marshon lattimore and there's a lot of reason to think Evans might just be a decoy or might just used on a pitch count. So I it's it's impossible to rank him as well as court uncertain. I've put him right around thirty two or thirty three. I would prefer to sit. coralline sudden same thing could be a game time decision as there's someone that you might pivot to on Monday night if you WANNA play that game. I mean listen there's a couple of different ways you can handle this in a deeper league. What I would probably do is just go get 'em patrick because he's available everywhere and he's GonNa play a full complement of snaps in probably see seven or eight targets Portland setting doesn't play. We've seen Tim. Patrick be serviceable in that role before so I, think that's the easiest move. But again, the court Portland certain things more difficult than Mike Evans because you either have to use a roster spot on someone like ten. Or. Possibly Chase Klay Pool or James Washington. Or you gotTA risk it you can't risk it. So I again I, I'm hopeful that I can just find somebody that I feel okay. About to start in place any concerns about starting players in the Arizona San Francisco game, they're dealing with the bad air quality. We don't know when the game is going to be played Are you concerned about that? You know I think as we sit here at eight Oh five eastern on. Sunday morning, they are expecting to play the game. It sounds like the news stations out in San Francisco, the current air levels are below where it would have to be the forecast calls for it to remain below what would cancel a game. So I don't actually have any concerns about that right now but that I mean I also know experts on forest fires or air quality, and so I would tell people to stay attuned to the news. All right fair enough and let's do some starter sits and our Tom Brady your Derek Carr. And going with Derek Carr I'm getting really close to having a lot of Derek Carr DFS. The shootout more so than Tampa, Bay, New Orleans Kinda Murray or Ben Rothlisberger. I will start Ben Rothlisberger and league's count six points per pass touchdown, Murray and four Marlin macaroni. I'm still go with Nick over MARLA MAC Jonathan. Taylor. Kareem Hunt. I will start Kareem, Hunt and both formats over John Taylor deontay Johnson or AJ Green. It's Aj Green for me. MARQUEES Brown or Henry. Rugs. It's Markeith bread. I'm very excited about both Johnny Smith or Blake Darwin. Blake Darwin for sure he's a top ten tied infamy Jack Doyle. Rob Gronkowski I'm still gonNA go with grown. I. Got a little excited about growing. Can Howard when Evans is going to be out? I've pulled back on that but I did grow. Thanks for listening everybody for full fantasy coverage injury updates get that on CBS sports HQ at ten M. Eastern, and for more extensive fantasy football coverage listen to fantasy football today wherever podcasts are found. Thanks for listening to the F. F. T. and five Lisa a five star review if you can we'll talk to you on Monday morning.

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Week 7 Waivers & QB Streamers, Jason Gets His Groove Back

The Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

53:48 min | 2 years ago

Week 7 Waivers & QB Streamers, Jason Gets His Groove Back

"Hey, foot Clinton. I'm back if you want to help support this show and get all of our awesome tools that we give you like the game day alerts morning of all of the flex rankings. The four player starts it to all of those things. We give those to the official Fook Lam members that support this show over at join the foot dot com and don't forget the staple of the fantasy football, the weekly extra podcast, the foot cast, check it out head over to join the foot dot com has score the sudden for Rocco's. You listened to the fantasy football. There's. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from draft dot com studios with your hose, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike, right. Come in. Jason's got his groove back. Oh, I'm back baby. Yeah. Finally came through, they were super last week. Yeah, they I and I still thought I was gonna lose for a short while, but I, I got it done. I think he had the second most points scored in the league. Yeah, and this time I actually one with the second most points scored in the league. That's good Brooks. Congratulations. You are my co owner for that. Awesome team. Thanks, Jason. You're welcome. All. So how'd you do in dynasty. Okay. I love you Brooks, but I'd be Brooks is experiencing the pain of famous football that many of you out there may be experiencing. It happens to the best of us outside of our control. Brooks has the most points scored in our dynasty. The most he's been dominant and he's gonna end true competitor, he's two and four how much, hey, I want to bring this up for the foot clan. A lot of people out there struggling with my team's been a great team has a terrible record. Write Brooks most points scored. This happens everywhere and Mike has advocated for a scoring system in the past. I just want to bring it up real quick so that maybe the maybe the listeners haven't heard of this before and they're interested in bringing this up to a vote next year. Mike, why don't you explain her? It's a, it's essentially that there are two points available per week. You get a point for winning your matchup and then you get a point for being a top six score. We moved to this format and my money league two or three years ago in I've, I've really enjoyed it. The league has really enjoyed it. It helps out. It helps ease the pain of of situations like Brooks, where you just are snake bit. Your team is dominating, but you just keep getting the worst possible match on a week per week basis. And then and then you don't just get crushed. Your soul is not destroyed, and I leave some platforms. Now, are they have this kind of an option inner clap and we this list, particularly, we do track it off line so, but there are more and more platforms that are making this available. Is that a lot more work on your Commission's? Not a ton. I mean, he puts his post once a week, so then the full. Standings are offline? Yes. The official ones are off line, and then he sets the playoff matchups after like correct in the system after the fact. But that's neat because if you if you get one of those ice scored the second fewest points in the league, my team sucked, but I won you. You'll get a win. Yeah, you've gotta win, but you didn't get the. You didn't get the bonus scored. Do you have divisions in that league? No. So it's a league wide yelling total? Correct? Yeah. So obviously you can you know a thousand ways you could you could set that up. That's it takes some of the sting away from Brooks a situation here where maybe this past week he would have gotten a point. Yeah. I mean, he's not his climb out of the bottom. I mean, he's not. He would not be three games behind. Yeah, I just I really like about that is you know, some people say, well, that's why you know it shouldn't be head to head matchup. It should be, you know, just whoever scores the most and that's that takes so much out of fans. Yes. The the weekly matchups the playing against your opponent, the put in in their face and getting them a a signed Tevin Coleman card when you beat them. Thanks, Brian, it's it's a, it's a matter of rooting for something. You know, when you have a head to head matchup, you root against something and you root for something. It's not just a matter of, you know, cumulative point. That's why I asked about the divisions are saying, like, you know, divisions are another fun way to build rivalry and things like that. Two days left at folk clan giveaway dot com. If you want to enter to win sign, Corey, Davis jersey and a championship belt from fantasy champs dot com. Then we're going to put up a new fund giveaway after that. It was a fun game last night. All man can follow us on Twitter at the f. ballers Mike, what were your thoughts last night? I just got word that Alfred Morris actually locked himself in a handicapped restroom stall. That's right. That's what had happened. Could not escape what. What's the news about this San Francisco? I think I'm glad I Jason said he listened to the show yesterday. Welcome back by the way. Yes. Instead he listened to the show and I, I had said, you know, if it's if breed is active, I actually said, go with Bri who? Yeah. That I mean, if you started Alfred Morris, you an Australian Ari a frustrating night and it was it was terrible, and I agree, nothing. Nothing came out from any beat reporters that I've seen out of San Francisco. All of a sudden Rahim Moster. Yes, I, I actually verified. It's mustard. Oh, it's hime mustard. He and he looked very fast. Now he was great. I mean, he was he was outstanding. Morris was zero for zero. Yeah, that would. So that was the big story line. Lots of players heading into Monday night needing just a few points from Alfred Morris in just having their hearts broken Moster. It was twelve for eighty seven. Yeah, I offer Morris says, don't. I mean unless news comes out now that it was all Alfred Morris was actually very injured or got lost on the way to the stadium. Well, it's weird because what was it like middle of the third quarter. He was in the game and a gotta carry picked up the first down all back or no, but it was like it would've made more sense if he just wasn't right. You know like, oh, you, he was injured. We didn't play him. It's like, oh, he had a decent workload. The first five games this season. It looked up until the final moments of the night, then breed. It was just gonna miss the game. There was no talk of regime Moster doing anything, and then he was a complete no-show. So this is just fantasy football at its. You had its worst and you stack all that on it being Monday night where you can't pivot, you can't make an adjustment, you're stuck, right. Like if you were a Morris owner and you heard Brita was playing, maybe you would have wanted to pivot off of him, but you couldn't unless you had a Packers running back. But last night, the Packers escape with the victory. You had flashes of success from the various rookie wideouts on Green Bay. But ultimately, the headline was devante atoms ten for one thirty to two touchdowns on sixteen targets. None of the rookie wide outside more than six total targets and Marquez was ultimately the the leader of that pack, but a big catch on the final drive by e. q. and Jim Mona had a cash as well. So look, Aaron Jones again over five Kerry, but only eight, Kerry it was so weird. They came in the touchdown called back hurt you because now you've got nothing from right when the game started. I had to listen before it can. Watch and I was, I was surprised. Aaron Jones gets the start right off the bat was awesome. Got the touchdown. It was called back, you know, missed it by an inch or whatever. And then I, this was this was Aaron Jones coming out party. That's how it seemed in the and then all the sudden they said, no, let's let's share the load. And this is why I set. You know, I've been beating the drum of, I don't want a Packer running back. I just don't. I don't wanna have to play the roulette. I don't want Jamal Williams on my roster. If you have to have one, it's clearly Aaron Jones, but I get. And the thing is is apparently you can't even predict a matchup at home against CJ Beathard in San Francisco, you would have thought the game script wouldn't have been what it was, which was the Packers are on the comeback trail, not the other way around, you know if they're out ahead, do you see fourteen fifteen carries maybe, but how do you know right now the patches are so dish shoveled I've never seen a team look as bad as good. It was like a sandwich in the middle was poop because it started. And it was great. They were on fire. It almost seemed like Mike McCarthy's at, I'm going to be innovative for the beginning of this game on a script out like ten to fifteen plays, and then I'm gonna get back to my roots with the poop roots, and then I'm gonna finish this game by just handing it over to airlines. The peut s- the peut. Yeah, so look, it wasn't good, but let's talk about Markey's good on the other side. That's where I want the conversation to go four hundred one, twenty six to huge perceptions, which were, I mean, these were excellent plays by CJ Beathard recognizing what the defense was doing. Throwing Goodwin open is, is this just the one time thing against Green Bay? Or are we talking about Markey's Goodwin is returning to form. He is back to being Markey's great win. I'm not going to overreact to this person. She's on people's waiver wires right now. He is, yes. He's only forty, three percent of leaks. He's available to be picked up and he's a fine flyer. I think what you saw on the deep ball. All he's got the opportunity to do that. So if you're going to pick someone up from the wavering, throw them in in roster, you want that upside, but you had a Trent Taylor out your peer Garson almost missed hobbled you the wide receiving dog Mattis was out Patas out. This was like one of those opportunities where you should have been able to see this one a little bit early and say, this is this is a pretty good matchup for Goodwin. So I'm not going to overreact and say he's great when he's back Robbie Anderson or Marcus Goodwin, who would you rather pick up and potentially start Goodwin? Who I actually agree because I think Goodwin's the best wide receiver on his team. Yeah, that's fair. And I- Robbie engine, I think Robbie Anderson probably the best wide receiver on his team who who would you give that to curse Terrell there? He's the best running fast. Yeah, they're in catching contested catches, but I think Goodwin is more all rounded, but it's a fine line. I mean, Mike, do you agree with Goodwin? I leaned that way, but Robbie Anderson could see a lot of our. Opportunity coming. You just say, won't should've could've seen the game script coming for good one. Well, rob, he's got that with with Quincy noon. One now out for probably four to five weeks Terrell priors dealing with with the groin. McGrane does Morris missing last night. Last question before the news does him missing basically, you know, being non-existent. One snap. Does this open the floodgates for Brita swimming, these healthy. In your mind? I think it's, I just think that it's most stared or mustard colour Colonel mustard journal. Mustard Colonel. Mustard will be the one stealing snaps away. You can't give what you've seen from Breda. The the dude is going down three times with season ending injuries only to be Lazarus and return the next week, but you can't give him twenty plus touches a week, but from physical profile, I like the fact that most of the guy stealing snaps because you saw Breda get a touchdown in the goal in the goal line situation, whereas Morris, kind of proto. That's fair. He personifies a goal line back, whereas most doesn't Matt Brita is he's going to be raised to me. He's a locked and loaded Rb to. Yeah, cool. News and notes from around the league. I only say cool because I'm sitting here in dynasty, struggling staring at marshawn Lynch and Carlos Hyde with their feet in the mud and these teams that they're so game. Script opinion. It's just it's troubling. All right, news and notes. Adam Schefter reporting. The Cooper cop has been diagnosed with an MC l. sprain not a season inter, but what's the story you? That's usually a multi week injury, unless you're OJ Howard, then you're then you've just fine after your by week, but you, you got to expect Cooper customers. Sometime I imagine breed would only miss a week to breed ornaments for try. He's full ring. All right. Quincy noon has a high ankle sprain. He's gonna miss some time. Yeah, that's what we were talking about. We'll we'll bring up Germain curses name and a little bit. Absolutely. Devante Freeman, Matt Bryant. They're both expected to be out for week seven that the Monday night football game, it's better to know it now into. Has aim time decision? Not only is it better to know now because of the Monday night. But when when a player's gonna miss thank you for telling us this early because he's officially out and I can leave him in my IRA and not worry that he's going to turn into a q. and ruin the waiver area. Yeah, in the morning. So that's great. However, devante Freeman, the I mean devante Freeman Dalvand cook, probably the two guys that have wrecked people's team more than anybody because they've been enough to start them accidentally when they shouldn't. But they've pretty much missed the season to be ruled out for a Monday night game. And he got ruled out yesterday on Monday. This. Hopefully Freeman will be back in a week, but there's definitely concerned ITO Smith. Yes. Right. Let's go to this news. Hugh Jackson, confirming Baker mayfield's ankle injury will not affect as week, seven status. It's kind of you know, you probably normally wouldn't be considering Baker, but we talked about the schedule and we talk, you know this week specifically with the by weeks, Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson. They're all out. So if you're in a league that's deeper if interleague, where you need to find a streamer he's at least worth a sideways glance. Oh yes. I believe he is. He would have been probably my my stream of the week. I do worry about the ankle a little bit from swelling and ruining some of his mobility that you know, helps his game a lot. You saw kind of he did not look the same in the second half this last week. So I, he'll is not going to ruin his availability to be the starter, but it could ruin his ability as the starter. Nice, thanks, nice. You. To douse good bills, rookie, Josh Allen will not start on will not start. That's what you call when Alan goes in. It's a smart. Yeah, it's funny like the hold Mugo snort. We have such a weird view, like Josh Allen. Obviously he's trying to do something with nothing in buffalo. He's so much better than their other option. Yes. And yet it's so relevant for fantasy football. There's a day coming where he's relevant if they get him some weapons just because he runs man, Josh channels, not going to start not considered a major injury, but he's probably going to miss more than one week. Yes, yes. He'll definitely miss more than one week, in my opinion, based on the injury and some of the people that I've been reading, this means start your get this colts. Yeah, and yes, I am willing to start the colts deal. Yes, buffalo the over under on one. One, pick six on taking the over because Nathan Peterman is great at throwing touchdowns to that other team. Yep, we're up. Where's the bell sound? Oh, do you want to the Pittsburgh post gazette the reporting Steelers don't expect hold. Outlive. Ambled reported. The team is weak. Who knows who names Connor Ono's was joins. I mean, here's the thing. This could get messy for everybody. It's this is there by week, so he can still return next week and be back in game action. But. Who knows who knows what Levy on bell is doing. I don't think he knows what he's doing. I think that I do not believe, and we talked about this yesterday and Jason wasn't there to weigh in. So I'll direct a question to Jason. I do. I'm starting to believe more and more with Connor success that he will still some of the snaps away from love belt. Now that might not matter in a very chimera Ingram way. It might not matter much Lebel bottom line so to speak. But but I don't think that they're going to push into the site if you listen to the way, Big, Ben talks about them. If you listen to the way that this team talks about him. Yeah. I mean, it's not going to be what it was last year for live. It's so anti Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin has always had a dedicated workhorse back when that guy goes down. The next guy up does not split. He's just the next guy forever, but James Connors, their future. James, Connor is the running back Mike Tomlin's going to work with over the next. You know, three or four years. So I would be hard pressed to believe he's just going to disappear. I think James Connor will have value, and that means it'll eat in a little bit too to let Bill does it give you any? Are you in the same boat where you're you're still trying to move Connor right now? Look, I'm a Connor owner in our league of record. I was offering him for Kenyan Drake this last week trying to get those. Yeah. I mean, I've got a bypass lips this week, so I would like to have a player was that turned down? It was. It was turned down if I was getting owner really. Really. Fats lunacy. If I were that's lunacy. If I were the left pill owner and I could trade Kenyan Drake for James, Connor. I mean, I would can I'd ride an algorithm to ought to accept that offer before the season began. I mean, that's just, yeah, that's real that because there is still the world where teams Connors, relevant season there is an Ed were. I mean, he may be Kenyan Drake value with Lebel BAC. Wow, that's surprising. Dare cars on by this week Mercifully Ian Rapoport hurt you this week in Rappaport said that he left with an arm injury. His soul was also injured, not in danger of missing time. And Jon Gruden said, dang. He's not to injured yet. Team is a full rebuilt. And then this was comedic raider seeking a first round, pick and exchange for Amari Cooper, good luck. That's what I would put out in the media too. It's just in the cardinals want three. I for Larry FitzGerald. A hall of Famer. Cardinals seeking eleven first round picks. All right, without further do we're going to get into the waivers before you do that. I wanna thank today sponsor. Eero. Eero is a home wifi system that brings you fast reliable connection to every room of the house because as they say, life's too short for bad wifi. Now, what no matter where I've gone and we got some nice internet out here and everybody's dealt with that problem of, okay, this rooms a little worse than that rooms and wifi is the word. It is terrible. You should have great wifi. Now, we I know Brooks hasn't Eero in his home and he says, it's been life changing. 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I'm going to ship one of these tomorrow. Feeney's bell, five Green Bay Oakland, Pittsburgh Seattle on by look ahead now and be prepared for your buy weeks. People. We're talking about, we have our streams on the show today, the streaming quarterbacks. It's a lot nicer if you are able to plan ahead of week. Yes, because we've been building up James Winston and Andy, Dalton for the by weeks. And we talked about in two weeks ago because you could get them then hopefully all of our streaming candidates are irrelevant because you have already picked one of those two guys up next week. True by pock lifts four teams on by this week week. Eight. Six teams on buying week. Nine. Yeah. Why you see NFL do this. I don't know. We it's week for will put two teams on by weeknight half the league. I saw got to be some computer. Yeah, I saw recommendation a better computer where if you have sent him one. If you extend Pentium how they lost system, you know how they want to add games. They want to add like right aims. So they want to convert to prison right preseason. I saw this solution that worked out really swimmingly where you add to game. So it's eighteen game season, and each team gets to buy and it worked out like magic. This should do that more. I feel like they could magically work out the by weeks to be better with sixteen games as well. If they did that though, if they had the double by that would become a real strategic aspect of your season. Yeah, as opposed to a lot of times in our drafting structure and the way you trade players all the time, we don't pay too much attention to the by weeks until now until you're in the season and you're making adjustments and streaming players. Yep. All right. Let's start at the wide receiver position and let's get into the main pickups, the main guys that I'm excited about and number one on the list for me is far and away. Germain curse agreed. I. Jermaine cursed is a good player. He is a good wide receiver and the as a competent quarterback. Quincy noon wall had great success with the targets. Here he was receiving. He's out. Germain, curse returned was more and more involved in in this past week had tin targets for nine receptions in ninety four yards Terrell Pryor had a good week with a new laws. Absence and Terrell Pryor is banged up and may win miss this week. So Germain curse to me is an instant signing play. Do you remember last year when Germaine curse had a similar opportunity for targets. He had backed back weeks last year, seven for one hundred and five and a touchdown, followed that up with nine for one hundred and fifty seven. So yes, Germain curse is a guy that can get it done on the field. I don't really, you know, love the the situation, rookie quarterback all that. But I mean, Donald's been able to get it done enough. I agree. That curse would be the guy if I need a start that'd be going after yeah, he's, he instantly becomes a wide receiver three to me, which is a guy that should be started. Yeah. Those two games you reference. He had ten and eleven targets. I mean, he at least has. Performed to that level. You're not wondering if it's possible. He's by far my favorite. Do you look at prior as well because he's banged up and because the new laws going to miss time five for fifty, seven and one last week, I don't know. I think you have to take your shot on who the guy is going to be and I'm gonna take the shot that it's going to be drinkers and by the guy, I mean targets. Yes, that's all I care about. Yes. Robbie Anderson is the type that he, he could have three targets and have the best game, but I would rather have the Quincy new role which is now Germain curses. All right. And then we talked to a Marquise Goodwin. Would you sign cursor Goodwin now I'm curse firmly in the curse category because I want those targets lean Jimmy curses well, but but really it's tough man. So they play the Los Angeles Rams. They being the San Francisco forty Niners Markey's Goodwin. And if you've seen what Marcus Peters has been doing for his opponents. Not doing for his. He's just been real kind and giving them touchdowns and yards and all sorts of stuff. Philanthropic Goodwin is a good one is head of the year is for he did on the radio. You the man of the year award donating touchdown main of the year. So I think I would lean Goodwin there because I Jin generally provide receivers. I'm looking at a week. I'm not looking at who I'd still rather play curse against Minnesota. Maybe. Halfon. So he's going to be a little bit harder to pick up anyways, curse promises available. Yeah, that's fair. I one of the guys that I was looking at this past week. I didn't like a couple wide receiver match ups, and he's in our list today and in the waiver wire pickups is Christian. Kirk knows wide receiver I thought about string streaming and last week he was in the same category in my mind, as Chester Rogers was in Indianapolis cardinals white out rookie Christian Kirk last week, six for seventy seven on seven targets. What I like about Kirk is a few things. One. He has the best report with Rosen of any wide receiver on the team, including Larry FitzGerald. He's just spent more time with him. He's the future of the cardinal franchise with rose in the other part, I really like is unlike Larry, current, Larry Kirk has game breaking ability. He can take slant route to the house. He can get over the top of the defense. And so because you mix and match like favorite target with that, look there Thursday night owing a game of the year. There are came in the year on cardinals and Denver Broncos. Enjoy your primetime. Thursday night football, didn't you say that congrats America. You got your Thursday back. Yeah, you don't nothing to watch here. There are a number of, I mean, you know, if you have a Tyler Lockett or ju ju or Antonio Brown on these guys on by this week, Doug Baldwin. There's there's a significant amount of players on by you may need to stream a wideout. I don't think you. I think Chris Kirk is in that category. Denver's defense has been bad to past four weeks. Christian Kirk is adding averaging. Yeah, six and a half targets five receptions and seventy yards for four weeks. He's, he's absolutely getting a dunk. Yeah, there's a couple other guys that I look at wide receiver that I'm still excited about that if I've got those buys, I'd like to pick up the two that stand out to me are Taylor Gabriel and Godwin. I think that both Taylor Gabriel has been interesting his his target, count his utilization, his snap percentage, everything across the board shows that the opportunity is there for him and he doesn't look like he's lost a ton of his speed. You know the last two weeks I would I would have lost his speed. Well, I'm. Just eight. Hey, what do you mean? I'm twenty seven. Yeah, he's a youngster. Well, I mean, look, nobody's down a years ago. He'd doubting Trubisky two years ago. Taylor. Gabriel was the new hotness and then all of a sudden you had a down year last year. He goes and signs with Chicago and nobody everyone headed down your nobody else. Taylor Gabriel, but he's over one hundred yards two weeks in a row last two weeks. What a hundred and twenty two hundred and twenty four yards in two touchdowns and he's playing against New England who takes out the number one option usually on on the defense. That's not Taylor Gabriel, right? It'll be owned Robinson. So he's interesting to me. Tyreek hill that's speed killed New England on on Sunday night. Yeah, I what are some other names stick out of there are a lot. I mean, a lot of by don't want the atoms is on by this week as well. So is there somebody else you want to bring up Cortlandt Sutton's been getting targeted regularly. That's a Thursday night game. Airs. Ona's defense might be focused, you know, Patrick Peterson more focused on the bigger names. There could Sutton have a big game on Thursday. Yeah, Sutton could. I mean he's got the talent to do it. I'll tell you who I'm not picking up Antonio Calloway. Next year. Next year come back strong. Maybe I'm still intrigues. I mean, ten targets. He was being shouted by Casey, Hayward, even Jarvis Landry had horrific game and the match up the match ups are so juicy for Callaway, Tampa Bay Pittsburgh, Kansas City. The next three weeks. I know we've been talking about it and it hasn't happened, but how how about an end and they, they have no one left at the wide receiver position. I mean, there's getting banged up. It's it's Jarvis in in Tonio Calloway speaking of stop. Antonio Calloway can't catch Albert Wilson, tyreek hill light. He's had a couple of big games. What if Brock Osweiler is the quarterback this next week, it's not a bad match up against the Troy. Do you? I didn't think we'd ever have a, you're bending the what? If Brock Osweiler is the quarterback in the direction of a positive for somebody. You're the one that needs to answer this. We talked a lot about our Wilson on the show yesterday and whether we bought into, you know, the potential there. I don't know. I mean, they play Detroit. I think it's a kind of coin flip in with with him. He needs a big play. Yes, he needs a big play and you're chasing points here to some degree. He's just been so fast this year. I mean. If you look at it so fast makes a he has not lost his speed Jason. Yes, I agree with that. The warning two years old, the twenty six year old Wilson. Oh my God still fast. But I mean this as in the way that the NFL is opening things up, spreading the ball around throwing it deep, you. You see, huge, fantasy performances more. I feel like this year than in the past from just the speedster guys. And so I'm, you know, there's a little deeper. I would rather play Taylor Gabriel over Albert Wilson because I believe far more in the target volume and the quarterback, then I do over Brock Osweiler, but I still think on, you know, on this week where you've got all these buys, Albert Wilson is at least someone you should sniff. What about the name? By the way, he's the other than tyrod Taylor. He's got the fastest plan the season, very, has the two fastest place on the season. At the end of the season, he'll have the five fans. This plays of the year Atlanta. Wide receiver. Justin hardy. I only bring his name because Muhammed's new left the game with an injury. Calvin Ridley left the game with an injury. He had the MRI things came back clean, but we'll see in time. Yeah, I mean it's a no for me. Okay. And that's because it's a Monday night football game. And so unless we have definitive news because right now the head coach, Dan Quinn is confident that both guys will be active online. I miss that news and because of that confidence and because you're waiver wires tomorrow, I don't think he's going gonna get picked up anyway. So maybe you can pick them up later in the week. I think it's a good name to bring up because if you get on Thursday Friday, you hear both guys are out. He's a great play against the giants. Yeah, he's an okay play. I still be Hooper and Julio Tevin Coleman and other guys. But he's, he's interesting for sure. You run the risk when you pick up a guy like that. You run the risk of what happened to serving shepherd this past week where it's like they always look like a good start, but they're still the third or fourth pass Jinping option on the team. You still run a risk, but Atlanta's hold. We'll get to Josh Reynolds, but by point for for a hardy is Atlanta's playing a lot better on offense. Then yes, there then the giants are Josh John. I'm Indies not into absolutely anti Josh Reynolds. I am intrigued by. I'm nationally Mike with Cooper Cup. He's gonna miss a couple of weeks with the MC l. injury Francisco has. No, I alert alert, no, no. I would flex Gerald Evert over Josh Reynolds if I had to play one of the two easily to targeting the second half of the game. Oh no, I want to do it. I want a Josh Reynolds water bet with Everett Reynolds virtue. That's interesting. Only if Cup is out. I mean for better. Yeah, obviously, we'll see. Dan Francisco Green Bay. I really waterbed on like who catches one pass, like which guy catches one pass, but no, no, no, I get it back just totally makes sense. Let's talk about. You do some Benjamin waterbeds. Let's look at the Ryan catches one pack. Let's look. Running backs. We trying to Marnie mcflurry. I'm trying to move Cooper clock here. Come on. Let's go. Let's stop it. The. The. Running backs. Let's talk about him probably owned, but worth peaking at would be the two from Philly. We talked to him last week, Corey, Clement window Smallwood I think Clements going to be the one with the upper trajectory here. Small would still involves still start -able. They play Carolina at homeless next week. Any thoughts on those two guys? Other than what I just said, it's New England light. You can start both guys every week and you know, Corey Clement will be the Sony Michelle role and Wintel Smallwood will be more of the James white role. Neither one anywhere near as good, but yeah, and probably owned Marlin MAC, are you interested? Twelve for eighty nine last week. Certainly the guy faces buffalo this week Buffalo's been. They've been pretty good the last few weeks on defense, but still a guy that had a week like that. Who seems to be the main backfield player had two targets Marlin max guy for a long time, Jason. Yeah. No, I'm absolutely interested in Marla. MAC. I said before the season I, I was in on MAC prior to the injury, because when I went back and I watched every snap that I could find of of Marlin MAC of nine Hines and Jordan Wilkins and Robert turban and all those guys, I came away saying. The clear best running back is Marla MAC, I know I was. It wasn't unanimous here, but that was my take. He got injured. He's been off field. But as soon as he got back, he looked great. This is an offense. It's moving the ball with Andrew luck. I would absolutely pick him up. Take a shot at having the starting running back who in avaliable offense. Yeah, he's worth to pick up to me gets to take on buffalo and Oakland. Marla. MAC is not game script proof. He will. He was vastly out, snapped by Nike lines. Now Marlin mce the production. I understand that. But he played about thirty five percent of the snaps. Having said that the game strips should be better for the colts against buffalo against Oakland for the next two weeks, but the colts defense is so rough. I don't know if I wouldn't consider Marla MAC a real long term solution, but he's he's, he's very capable for the next two weeks for a by week. I'm still not convinced that the snap count was not partly due to the fact that he's getting back from being injured hospitals. And you know, I, I never thought that they were going to bring him back in and be like, okay, sixty percent snaps get on the field. You're the guy. Yeah. I look at that situation like, I don't know if I buy into the the sentiment that it's a good offense. I don't think it's good offense and you know, you can look at the tape and watch all those guys. I look at it like, okay, I'm going to serve you the best green beans anybody's ever made, but I don't want green beans so you can make it look as nice as you to people at green bean casserole, but I don't. You need to have my spicy green beans that I make with red do take. Flakes you take the green beans out. You make it taste not like green beans. So might be like green beans. No, no, they're bad and green book. You can make something that's bad and give me the best version of it, but I still don't wanna touch it. That's that's fair. And that's Marla MAC, the beans. So who would you who would you be making your play after Marla max running back that it's running back position. You need to start this week looking. Fortunately I think you can start if you have to, you can start the eternal. Oh, use, infinite. Here's all his Frank. Look, Frank gore, you could start him. You need to keep your eye on Dionne to form, not because he's active or going to be active this week, but because the and has the ability to potentially be the guy, I would say four weeks from now. I don't think there's any chance. He's the guy before that because coming off the achilles injury, you're not going to give a guy like that a full workload, you know right out of the gate, but he's somebody I'm paying attention to and that's and then latavius Murray if he's out there because even though it's Zona twenty four carries gets me a little bit, gets me a little excited. Little flustered. Yeah, I think Peyton barber is another player to look at thirty three percent owned. He was, I'm sure he's been dropped a lot recently because they thought the move was hap-. Everyone thought it was switching over to Ronald Jones, and it's not it's Peyton Barbara's team. And so he's a starting running back. I know he was poor as the starting running back the first few weeks. We say this all the time. It's just not starting running backs out there on the waiver wire. Are you picking up gore or barber. Barber. I'll take the the higher high flying offense of Tampa Bay. I'll take the risk. Yeah, that's fair more odds of better odds of a touchdown in in pain barber is featured. There's a, there's a weekly article on the fantasy football dot com. Writers do a great job that go breakdown some film and Peyton barber is in the week, seven. So encouraged people to go check that out on the website. Did you mention he outs nap Jones? Say we did not sixty two eight sixty two percent eighteen percent. Yeah, touches seventeen to four. Yeah, it's it's not a situation. I'm like dying to get myself into. Yeah, but you're not trying to get free go or you're either. I am not Gore's opportunity. Just continues to increase week by week over Frank gore and probably even overpaid in barber this week only if I need to start ITO Smith. Yes, has been out there. This is a great match up against the giants. He's been kind of playing that Freeman role. Oh light. He's actually in there in the red zone. He's kinda the freemen shaped guy. You know, five, nine, two hundred pounds and he's been getting the red zone, hasn't lost his speed yet. No. So you know Smith is a guy that I've been slow to come around on. Yeah, I've been trying to push ITO Smith on your for a while. I, I would rather start the guaranteed the the gore and Barbara overeater though. I think he's pretty guaranteed. Larry's took a look. He has the same amount of red zone carries as David. He doesn't score though you get nothing. Well, I mean, that's been his career. Hold on same red zone snaps his career. He's his career is like four games long, but in each game, look three for five and a touchdown Suri for five. That was last week that will. But that was that was when Freeman was also in okay. The week before that when he was out seven for thirty five and a touchdown, this past week, eleven for twenty two. He's not breaking long plays. He untouched. He's not an a touchdown. That's what I'm saying. My point was that you have to have him score. It's irrelevant. That's all. Yeah. And I don't think you have to have gore and Barbara don't have to score to be relevant to your fantasy team. That's my point because last week was one hundred yard rusher may. Twenty two yard rusher. Is there anybody here the whole list that you would spend up for your fab or burn your waiver wire priority list on you? You need to start. Is there anyone that you say, I've got to make sure I get this guy over that? No, only if you happen to be one of those leagues where the Philadelphia are still available. All right. Let's move on tight ends. Evan Ingram. Coming back this week. He's mostly owned Austin Hooper now is mostly owned, but just pay attention. He's a beautiful butterfly now, though. He's Austin who? Yes. I've seen. He's not NBA jamming on me yet. He's eating up. He's heating up, but that's not enough. I've seen this. I've seen this movie a million times and also it's usually starring. Jared, cook. Yeah. Two weeks does not career make Austin Hooper needs to do it again against the giants to solidify himself as a top ten tied in the NFL wants the glasses, broken, indie. You can't put it back together. Dawson Hooper time. You know. It's nice that they have been using him in this role with their porous defense. And we've seen Matt Ryan. I mean, you, you know, we forget Matt, Ryan used to use Tony Gonzalez. Yeah, a ton and to see Hooper kind of grow into that role. He's definitely a weekly start for me right now. He's not a must pick up and start not going to be dropping other Trey Burton. Not going to say I've got nine, nine recept really two weeks in a row. I'm not going to drop Trey Burton for us and Hooper now. Betray burns confusing. He keeps going, but he's getting to receptions. I'm more excited about a guy that's not owned that is going to be relevant for the remainder of the season, and that is CJ Yuzawa secrets, the tight end for the Cincinnati Bengals six for fifty. Four on seven targets has Kansas City Tampa Bay. The next two weeks CJ Yuzawa will be targeted. He will make place. He's athletic and Croft is a quote might return at some point to season. I for it's done us. Alma is relevant. Yes. And Andy, Dalton is playing well, Mike, would you rather have you Zama or Austin? Hooper. That's a great question. Why? I think it's an important question because I think the majority of fantasy owners would instantly Hooper by default. And I would say Hooper too. I lean Hooper just what, but I'm not a wide gap. I'm being just being jocular over here with the superoxide most with anti that I'm not completely bought in that. The breakout has happened for Hooper, but it's at least in the realm of possibilities, which is why I would take the shots not a full boil, but I see bubbles. Do you know what I mean? We're almost there. Okay. How about another bell Halfon player so might might not be available, but because he was injured in off of a buy week, dropped a lot of places. Where does Jay Howard mix in with those other two players? To me? The top? Yeah, I was gonna say, I would rather have OJ Howard than either of those other guys agree because the ceiling is enormous. Like he is if I completely agree. And if you're having tight end struggles the Vance McDonald, he's available in half of leaks, but he's going to be on by. So he'll be we, there's a great chance that he has dropped fans. McDonnell is the type of tight end that I would hold onto if I have to double up gross, I get it if I have to double up at the tight end position to cover Vance McDonald's by week, I would not drop him. There's just so many teams that will be forced to drop them because you, you don't always have enough players to drop on a BI week if you've got not only him on by week if he was your only tight end. But let's say you've got another running back to around by, you're not gonna be able to drop a lot of people off. Yeah, Vance McDonald will be dropped a lot of places. If you've got the roster spot, pick them up. I just looking at the game log frost and Hooper all of last season. He had one game in which he had nine targets and all of last year. Yeah. And then this year that's why it's been four, five, four and two. These are the not the. He's never had double digit targets, and now he's had it in two straight weeks. It's very interesting. It's very scary. I think he's a good, not great athlete, so we'll I, this is this is like full fire. Yeah, it's NBA jam rules, man. Yeah, he's eating up if he catches fire this week, he's saying the plane stay in the flames. And if MRs then he's just is over. It's gotta start over. Yeah, he just falls eight falls down a tear into that kind of you. Hope you get something tightening category. Full stream ahead. We'll circle back to some defensive streamers after we do full stream ahead by the way. I know I skip though. So look this week, Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers Russell Wilson. They're all on buying. So as dare carbon, nobody's playing, who do you like? I mean, I I've seen better weeks for streaming options, and that's why we said, go get Winston and Dalton and some of these other guys ahead of time because it's not. I don't have super preened confidence this week. That's the way I would put it. I see games that can be they can in the right direction, but like my stream of the week has the words you next to it and is Joe flacco against New Orleans. Now, New Orleans is playing better. Joe flacco the matchup. It looks pretty good. He's got weapons. John Brown can be people, deep Crabtree had coming out last week and look. He has full allotment of four tied into throw the ball to. So I think flack. I mean, he's my stream of the week because I think. It can. He can get it done. I mean, he's at home against New Orleans. So you could do worse than Joe flacco. I'm with my stream of the week also you but I'm with it. Man. He li- manning he gets to take on the Atlanta Falcons here are the point totals for the that opponents of scored on the Atlanta Falcons the past four weeks. Forty three thirty, seven forty one twenty nine. It's been rough. It's been tough sledding for the New York Giants. I I absolutely get that, but the falcons defense there just to hurt their to banged up to stop anyone and on top of that, their offense is amazing. Keeping games really, really high scoring. So I am. I am with streaming Eli. Yeah. I'm scared, but I liked the fact that Evan Ingram's gonna be back. Yeah, he hasn't scored twenty fantasy points on the season, so I don't think you're upside is there, but you know, he's got saquon to throw the ball to at three yards from scrimmage and maybe take the house. He's got Beckham to do that. I get it. This is the starters, the Yep. Oh, Jason. Yeah, let's hail is suck the Taylor stuck. I had a chat with Jake Rhys. Yeah, and he told me he'd say, he said, I can trust them. You know what he said to me. He said. Said six hundred seventy yards and nine touchdowns last two games is that sense? You talked bad about, yes, Mitchell Trubisky is my stream of the week, the opportunities. I talked a lot about already about what I think Taylor Gabriel can do against New England. The speed beating hasn't lost its. He's still fast. And the weapons are there. New England will score. You know, Nagy look, Matt Nagy is coming from Andy Reed's system. The Andy Reid system that just put up forty points on the patriots and no, they don't have patent homes. They don't have tyreek hill, but if you don't think that Matt Nagy can't go to Andy Reid and say, hey, hey, buddy. Oh pal. Hey, good friend. What are you? What are you know about these? You want them to not have home field in the in the playoffs you want. I mean, who do you think the chiefs want to win that game the patriots or or or the Chicago payers rolling narrative street? I can't hear this and say the word, hey, without, hey, Mark, Wallenburg Zona Mark, Wallenburg this Trubisky. Do you know his touchdown rate is the past two weeks? Oh mercy. It's gotta be eighteen percent or some sixteen percent. Why get league averages about four and a half? No regrets. Incoming. Sorry, we look, I burn you now. I know I know, burn you down doing the anti curse here. Irish fans should be really disappointed in what you're doing right now. I look, I'm motivated Mitchell Trubisky two weeks ago to to catch fire, and now I'm tree in risky. I'm saying, hey, truth, Bisky. You're so good. Watch him. Fern Bernard dire knit. Some other, you know, Baker Baker at Tampa. Yeah. All right. Check on the ankle, but I think it's a good option. I'm playing. I'm playing Jarvis because this is you shoot as raff Jarvis to play him. If you can't play him now you can never play him. If you don't wanna play Jarvis Landry I would like to trade for Jarvis Landry I'm not opposed to trade in them that. Did you see those stats j eleven for his last twenty. Nine targets. Yes, that's not so good. The jets are we just go to sleep or the jets are working out Renard Matthews. So things are running well for that wide that could speak to Terrell prime. That's what I mean guaranteed out dreaming curse. I love him. Yeah, I want. I'm going to spend up on him a little bit. I mean his enemy. That means I'm going to spend ten percent. I spent up to eight to ten percent of my fab if I need a wide receiver right now because. Look, he has long term, I believe in Sam darnold Sam darnold, good player. This is a team that scored thirty plus points for two straight weeks against teams. They weren't expected to do that against. That's all I need to know. He's he made a noon. Well, very relevant early in the season and cursed his good enough. I think you could be picking up a PR machine. I would spend Germain curves. Yeah, I would say I only on your team to twenty percent. Now let me ask you, would you drop Corey Davis to get your main curse while gross? No, I would not. Oh, maybe. Feels bad. I feel like India's doing that. Trying to find some other names to give you. Would you drop keel and coal to sign Germain, Kurt? Yes. Okay. That one's easy. You know what else is easy this little button right here. Hey, well, farewell. My friends. Thanks for tuning into the fans footballers reviewing subscribing. We appreciate you, Arizona, Indianapolis, Dallas, Washington has defenses, checkout draft dot com. Slash ballers for some daily man. See tomorrow. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast, join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the f. f. ballers.

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Fantasy Nose-dives, Mailbag & AMA

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Fantasy Nose-dives, Mailbag & AMA

"Hey foot clan fantasy football drafts. Right around the corner. Don't forget to dominate your drafty old draft kit. It's all of our insights that we have poured our lives into for the last year, all our player profile videos, and there's an app this year, that you can get for free. Once you have the ultimate draft yet, go to draft get dot com. Hi, this is about green from Miami, Florida two-time member of the listener league, and you're listening to the fantasy football podcast. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from pristine, auction dot com studios with your home's Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike. Right. Welcome to the show. Pally. Thursday, June thirteenth. Jason and Andy experience once again, Mike will be back on our, our next episode not to worry not to worry. Jay Grizz is here representing demanding for my to stay away saying this is my show now. You could hear that in the rar. I see he's reading a book during the episode Brooks. He's a learned man. Yeah. He's studying up there for a mailbag from what it looks like it is a pretty thick read. Pictures? It's from an Alaska state of mind. The name of the book is the salmon way that's RBC philosophy. You don't know about welcome in great show today, tackling some mailbag questions, also solicited, the foot clan for some AMA question. So some of those. You know, a questions about the podcast or the business, or I think there was a pet related question in there. We'll sprinkle those in with the fantasy football questions today. Here's the quick question of the episode Mr. Moore. I put this in here this morning because I just want to know the answer. I wanna know your answer, which fantasy football offense takes a nosedive in twenty nineteen. And the reason this is top of mind is because I went and I looked up last year's points per game numbers in fell offenses. You had the high of highs the Kansas City Chiefs leading the league and then three touchdowns below them on average was the low of lows the Zona cardinals offense, averaged one point one point more than the amount of goals, the US women's national team scored yesterday. Yeah, it was thirteen if the Zona cardinals raised up to like a bottom five offense like raised all the way up to be bottom five Dade score an extra touchdown a game. That's how bad the offense was were so far and away the worst, there were like seven points. Worse. Yeah. One might call it a touch them. So what offense takes a nosedive in twenty nineteen what do you think what's your? And so I think the offense if we're talking about what great offense takes a nosedive the first one that comes to mind is actually Kansas City, but I don't like Kalyan a nosedive because they're still going to be a great officer still going to be top. But historically, the great offenses, you the Peyton Manning Broncos when he came back and also through fifth those, those have huge huge drops the next season. But if we're looking for one that could actually nosedive like someone that was one of those top five scoring off. It's that could end up really disappointing. I would throw the Seahawks out there because you look at the extreme touchdown efficiency of Russell Wilson how much they want to run the ball by the defensive minded run, run run your team gently down the stream. The thing is, is that doesn't usually produce great offense of output. They could still be a very good team. But I think what you're seeing regression could come. It's an interesting Doug Baldwin retiring, not part of the offense. If Chris, Carson wasn't healthy, could reside penny bear enough of the load to provide the kind of office of numbers that you had last year. It's an believing good. Yeah. Well, there you go. But. Okay. I they answer me has to be Pittsburgh. I just have to believe that it's Pittsburgh last year. The fourth highest points per game in the league at twenty six point eight points per game. And I just don't believe you can be better without Antonio Brown on offense, the pressure that in Tonio Brown takes off of a player like James Connor, who I do not believe is as skilled as Levy on bell. There was opportunity for Connor to come in be efficient be effective. I that's not to say Connors a good player for fantasy or for, you know. You know every day Sunday purposes in the NFL, but you're not better without Antonio Brown and you're not better without love bell in the roster. It's an it's a wide receiver core that it at a minimum you have to concede is being rebuilt. Right. I mean you have juju Smith Schuster, who has to take a new role as the number one target. Yeah. And you don't even know. Is it Dante? Moncrieff is James Washington. Is it Johnson? Exactly. There's I mean, and and, you know, they the they really they lost Jesse James. So you know, you talk Antonio Brown. Okay. Sure. But the outlaws also. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna affect this offense and drastically. Follow the show on Twitter, at the F, F ballers. You can follow us all on Twitter or Instagram at Andy Holloway at Jason NFL at f f hit man. That's that's big news. We've never said that before that because it hasn't been true. Yeah. Yeah. Do you notice that? Yeah. Because my handle was not at Andy Holloway for awhile on Instagram, but it was the ballers dad. I'm proud of you, because I was I'm not, what am I not the father of the show any more, but you had to change one you had to change one of your handles to match the other. That's what happened. There you go. You can find us on apple podcast. Subscribe and review on Spotify and adds free on Stitcher premium we are going to get right into the news. News and notes from around the league presented by sleeper. A lot to talk about in the news stuff. We didn't cover on the last episode Jason, we had the head to head mock draft. And if you didn't listen, you can go back to Tuesday's show. Rave reviews on rotten tomatoes through the roof ninety eight percent fresh. Now, there was a lot of when you have a mock draft, you have a lot of opinions. Right. Not just from us. Like we have our opinions on who we thought had a better draft and then people gray drafts based on, how do you like to start or do you like the whole roster. What do you do? You like the Texans. These are questions that right? That people bring up. And so, yeah, I heard I heard a a little bit of feedback on having three Texans. So I wanna talk about that for two seconds, kind of have to second. I'll give you, I'll give you ten and that is just to say that throughout a draft. Like, because I had just said, hey, look, I don't wanna stack Hopkins and Miller. And then I took Miller around later, and I don't know if I made the right decision, they probably didn't write as a mock draft, I probably should have just stayed away that being said, I want people to understand there is a value for everybody. Lamar Miller was around cheaper, then he was the round before and. So they rep where you draft a player represents something different for your team. So if you took to your first four players on the same team, it means something different for your officer than if you took players later and I had made the argument look, I'm not going to draft a handcuff for Lamar Miller. Later in the draft for the same reason. But I think it's interesting as the draft proceeds you even if you're in that situation where you don't wanna have multiple players from the saints team. You have to take him eventually, right? Yeah. If the value is too good for a player, don't be don't be too cute and be like, oh, I've got too many people on the same by week or oh, I've got to if the value of the player is right. Think about the sixteen weeks in the roster that you need to build and you'll be fine. And there's a lot made about a running back wide receiver stack being bad. And I actually don't believe that it is bad. It is bad when it comes to maximizing your high scores. Right. We've talked about a wide receiver and running back. Can't usually SC. Four touchdown on the same play. But at this on the on the reverse of that the consistency is higher. Because if you've got two guys that are going the score at the end of the year, a lot of fantasy points. They probably didn't all come in the same five or six games. They were spread out a little bit more. So I mean we've seen that before, when, when people stacked saquon and Odell Beckham I mean, obviously extreme examples. But you said you know you don't take to your top four picks. You, you would have done that last year and the consistency that you gained from having a running back wide receiver stack. They can work in that round to, you know, it wasn't Lamar Miller. Wasn't gonna be a starter? Lamar Miller was guaranteed carries at the position on your bench, which is different than stacking, the way that being said, I look back, and I probably got dominated. Is that what you're going to say? No, I probably got dominated didn't that didn't help it. Well, yeah, I mean, you know, my favorite part of the comments on any head to head draft. I guess here in June is Mavs reading them to yesterday. And it was like sequential. Jason worst draft ever burning burning trash draft next guy, best draft ever by Jason love, his teen. One of those was correct? All right news notes. We haven't talked about a few things let's get into some contract news Carson Wentz. Four year one hundred twenty eight million dollar contract extension through twenty twenty four. Not much to read about that. You wanna write you wanna make the argument. Oh, good. Then that means the back is healthy. It doesn't really it doesn't matter. They have to give this contract is good for Carson good for the eagles. Good job, you got money, this one matters a little more Vikings have resigned. Kyle Rudolph to a four year thirty six million dollar contract extension. Sorry. Oh, you earth's voters. Yeah. I mean, I modified my Irv Smith dynasty ranking in the aftermath. And if you spent a rookie pick Irv Smith you. Barring something, you know, coward off could get cut before a four year contract is fulfilled and probably will be. But he is going to be these starter for the next several years. And you don't have the Minnesota Vikings. They're not the offense where it's like you're going to have to fantasy relevant tight in it's disappointing because a caps the upside, no doubt blah Powell re signed by the jets blab. Rely look. This is gross not suffer allow Powell. I'm so happy for him coming up the neck injury. But there are now one hundred sixty two running backs playing for the New York Jets, they're going to have to make massive cuts, but you sign Levy on bell. You give him all this money. And then you still keep adding rutting bags. I mean, look, they, they have well, if you look at the style of running backs are going forward, they want flexibility around. Yeah. I mean Powell time on Gumri those are pass catching running act same as Levy on bell. And so maybe you say okay, well, the they've got backups if love Bill goes down, or maybe the history of Adam gays says left, bell might not be the Pittsburgh Steelers version of a bell cow. Would you. Would you say that at this point, Adam gaze is reserving his? Right to be whole drill. Yeah. And he is he's stocking up on cheese right now. Oh, so much cheese. Ready to? All right. Sir, racist, you know, moving on sending send in the car. Fan at the raiders, we'll be featured on this summer season of hard knocks very excited about this, this best hard dogs possible Gruden. And if you watch win Gruden. Gruden does not want hard knocks. The now he is so opposed to hard knocks being there, and that's going to make it great because he's being forced to do it, and he'll act happy, and you'll be able to look right through it and, and Tonio Brown and Josh Jacobs. Unfortunately will now go way too high in the draft. Just Jacobs was going to be a value hard knocks will ruin that you think so I do every year someone from hard knocks is like, oh, I love him. He's. And then they start going up one round two round three rounds higher in the draft. Devante Freeman a couple of years ago. Speak to the Jacobs come because we, we are I think a very Jacobs pro Jacobs show like from all three of us believe Jacobs has a lot of upside. I actually noticed that, that was one of the most common comments in our mock draft was the Jacobson too high. When I took people didn't have confidence in Jacob's in Oakland. Well, you don't have confidence because you haven't seen him as a running back in the NFL get that he's a rookie. He's coming in. He wasn't a guy who at Alabama was a workhorse, but he was the clear cut best prospect coming in. He was drafted in the first round. And if you look at first round data on running backs they're hit rate is very, very high. And now he's in a situation where you, you lose marshawn Lynch and he is he is clearly the guy. No, for is crow. Well who they brought in to help him right there? Yeah. No one is there. There's very little competition. And if you just look at it, you know the way that we do everything for the ultimate draft kit in the draft season we stat out every player every team every, you know, we look at so much. And if you were to stat out the raiders, as an average NFL team, and you distribute, the Carey's to the running backs in their system. It's going to be very difficult for barring injury for Josh Jacobs to not be a good. You were talking, definitely a high end Rb two possibilities of being alone. Rb one Josh jobs are Marlin met right here right now. I'm going to go against the grain here and I'm going to take Marla MAC you think that's against the grain. I believe that's against the grain because people still are not believers in Marlin MAC. Like I am. I am a true. I think the colts are great offense, but he won't come back is a great running back. Probably won't catch the ball though. He probably won't catch as many as Josh Jacobs catches. I'll grant you that. All right. Some tyreek hill updates according to NFL network, barring further developments, there's every reason to believe that is the quote that tyreek hill will be back with the chiefs before the start of next month's training camp. There is no active investigation according to the district attorney involving tyreek hill. Now, we want to lay this out there, not because we know what the outcome's going to be of, you know, whatever investigations, I guess, there's no more investigations. The point is he's not going to be banned from team activities forever. At this point. However, we, we don't know what the NFL is gonna do. Right. We don't know how long the NFL's going to suspend him. It seems that it is. I, I would bet MOS everything that I have on the fact he will be suspended for some duration. Yes. And if I were to bet on the duration, you're probably looking at eight games 'cause six is pretty much the the standard bearer. I mean you know because of his. Past corologis coming in, and those are spelled out in the CBI terms, you know, like that has an act of affect on suspensions. I would guess he gets eight games. Yeah. I think I think it'll be ten ten to twelve. So that's the latest on Tehreek will update you on what's going on Tiree status for this season and beyond has huge implications on the draft stock of Sammy Watkins, and me, call hardman. And, and so you have to have Mahomes. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Couple of OTA notes before we move on into the mail bag Cam Newton clear to throw at minicamp fantastic. You've gotta be able to throw. He is going to be a very good value. And drafts, this year, he does seem like he will be Eric Hebron, this is great news. Because we had the what two weeks ago we found out there was mystery groin surgery. Right. He's like one of those, like, okay, this never happened because all of a sudden it's like wait, Eric Berne had groin surgery. But apparently, it was so minor. They didn't talk about it. And it has not affected. His ability to play football running at full speed Jason. That's the speed. I want Travis Kelsey is going to sit out mandatory minicamp with an ankle. Pat Shurmur said is two of them. Evan england. Evan Ingram sideline with the Hammy. That's always fun miles. Sander miles. Sanders hasn't participated at all so far in Philadelphia. Make you start to look a little bit Jordan Howard. And just how far down during Howard's going to be drafted, there is. There's upside, you know, the RBC history of Doug Peterson certainly just keep it in the in the in your head space. I was gonna say those with Evan Ingram. You know you look back last year this is so early. And we think all these things don't matter. But goodness, gracious hamstring injuries around training camp in on the they have an effect, they don't have an effect on everybody. But there's a large percentage, where it's like, okay this has an early season. On these guys, and we have to start remembering this, so Evan Ingram and mild Sanders, just put that in your mental notebook that, like day are dealing with hamstring injuries right now, in, in OT, as I believe that was one of your ten one of our ten things to remember. And that was one of yours. Jason hamstring injuries. Yes. If I'm gonna write these guys down and do something about. Here's good news. Marquees Brown Hollywood, Hollywood cleared for individual drills. That's not full practice. Hey now, hey now, he's coming off the list Frank. You love to see it. You need him on the right path. If he's got any help this want him to succeed so bad I I've been in talks with some people in, in Baltimore. Who've been watching is taking place at minicamp. Lamar Jackson new throwing motion for Lamar Jackson. Not looking good. It's not looking good from those observing now doing the under the unlike the softball pitch he switched arms. You on full lefty. I saw Mahomes, do it can't be worse. But, but look, take it for what you will. Right. That's just evidence from people watching it might take time to, to develop that. But new offense for Lamar Jackson built four Lamar Jackson new throwing motion for Lamar Jack. What we've heard is not going to be as run heavy for for him. They want him in the pocket a little bit more and, and by a little bit more. That means of course, they do he was going to break. I think he did already Brit, he will break every rushing record for a quarterback in the book, if he never throws and just runs. Right. Which he may have to do again. Now let's hard thing about. Like they can say what they want, but it when throwing doesn't work. And when running does, right. They they. The. Funny because they won so many games. Right brooks. So many games. And then they're like, we want to win less games this year. That's how it feels. The thing is, is you just can't run. Lamar can't run them forever. Thirty times a game and then still have Lamar Jackson look, I'm optimistic that Lamar Jackson kit improve as a passer p 'cause. He has to and he can I, I didn't think he was terrible as a passer in college. He is sub NFL caliber accuracy. But if he just gets it to slightly less subpar. We just wanna see players like Mark Andrews in Hollywood Brown have an opportunity to flourish. Jason I it's a flurry. I wanna see Austin Hooper's not participating who care. Here's something you do care about. Oh, by the way, hip, injury, deebo Samuel. He sitting out right now. Julio jones. It during mini camp because of a foot injury. So is that a has he had foot injuries before he has he's had the same you know Sammy Watkins foot injury? And you've got him on, on the same team that you have your Todd Gurley shares on rye do acquired him. I. Well, I didn't want a over thirty year old former superstar dealing with a foot injury wide receiver in AJ green who didn't have contract. So I wanted to move him for Julio. Yeah, he did that big contract, which she still does not have yet and now he has a foot injury. So here's the deal. I'm hoping that he is sitting out because he wants us contract at what point is a saying I got a foot. That'd be nice. But then, again, he's always had foot problems. At what point do they change in the reporting of injuries for guys a Coolio in AJ green instead of because of a foot injury just because of their foot? Yes. Like their foot by default doesn't seem to be function. Eating at a high rate, you never see that you always see, like, you know, Cam Newton shoulder or tribes Kelsey Inc. I wanna see like feet. Yes. Just Julio Jones feet, same old feet. Yep. All right. Be sure to switch your dynasty league over to sleeper better yet. Switch any league over to sleep or we just did our mock draft with the sleeper platform on Tuesday, so you can check out that episode of the show. Get get a glimpse at the draft boards. Download the app today. You wanna talk. To claim. Yeah. Who's doing the mail bag drought? Oh crud. J grizz. All right. Jay's got it. Mailbag. He did a great bad. Not bad. All right. If you have a question for the fantasy football podcast you can go to the website, defensive footballers dot com. Click submit a question button. You can also leave a voicemail three zero two four six four. T. F F B leave a voicemail question. We love helping your team. We're gonna do that right now. Going a jump in with voicemail. Hey, bothers you doing is still from Florida. I'm wondering factually for net match full points. He PR. Thanks guys for net for MAC. Yes. Four net or Marlin MAC. Now he didn't say dynasty, but it was kind of assuming because it's my trade a trade question. Leah's lancer. Both. All right. Perfect. Does it change for you? I mean look, I want the guy attached to Andrew luck. I don't think either them represent high p p r value. I don't like the variables involved with Leonard fournette, and the seemingly, if it's not bad blood. It's not good. Blood in Jacksonville between Tom Coughlin and Frenette and the injury history. So not that MAC hasn't had a little bit as well. It's a close call for me. I'd, I'd rather have more on that if, if this is a redraft league, I still lean for net because and this is a risk issue for you. I mean, if you're trying to make this move and you say, I think for net carries higher risk he has been dealing with injuries, pretty much entire life high-school college NFL so far, and he has been inefficient but he's going to get the work load this year and be relied upon to agree that if you're willing to take that injury risk. I think four nets. I think for net has a great year this year. I know you're, you're much further down on Fornet. I was just talking about how I like Marla MAC. And so it's close, but in a dynasty, I do think, I mean, look, they've voided for nets finer seed money. So four net comes out and stinks or gets injured this year for that could be done. I mean Marla MAC is like you said he's attached to Andrew luck. I trust that for going forward. More than I do for four nets. It's dynasty. I, I would go back. Yeah. These guys are basically back to back in our rankings in the UD K right now. And you're right. It's a risk of version type of question on the PR front. I do think that for net could be more involved in people think because he was actually already more involved than most people realize, and then they lost TJ Yeldan, so as the primary pass catching back, and they replaced him with no one with a pass catching skillset, and that's I guess, that would be the point that I'd wanna speak to. I. Don't believe that what you see in Jacksonville today represents what Jacksonville will have as the rotation on day one, like it's right now, it's easy to look at them and say, look, there's an unproven commodities behind Leonard fournette, but I don't believe that look, when you when you void the last year of the contract, you have a massive injury. History used to spin it a guy for his off the field actions before or on the field shenanigans, and then you go and trade TJ yelled and away. I think they're going to add another back. I believe that they're gonna utilize other backs in a much higher volume capacity than people think right now. But did you know do know who their other backs are? Yeah. Like Alfred blue. No. Oh, sure. Alfred booze there. Okay. But this is a team that also brought him Carlos high to do this for Leonard for net last year and force fed him carries. And there are other, you know, recall arm said, is there at draft selection, and there will be opportunities for other guys to come in? I don't think what I'm saying. All the evidence of what they've done with Leonard fournette over the last year tells me, they don't believe that he is reliable enough. And including going out and trading a draft pick in wasting it on Carlos Hyde. So why are they going to renew confidence in a guy that has shown a lack of confidence? I, I just don't think on day one. I don't think they have a choice. I think at this point the moves they've made for better or for worse. I don't think recall arm said, and, and Alfred blue. Benny Cunningham there, too. I mean these are rotation guys for sure. But it's a very close call. I do think he's riskier we have for net is a six out of ten on the risk raiding. We have Marlin MAC is a four right now. Yeah. Feel better offense in Indianapolis. All right. Instagram question from w Ryan east. He says, is there anyone you are targeting in the later rounds this year in the draft that could be a possible keeper the following year of the drafts definitely right before we came in here I was just watching. Much every carry from Rashad penny. Resahd penny is to me. So how long that take Tim is. He did not have as many carries as one would hope your point is taken. But he was. You know he broke his finger early and training camp last year was missing preseason games and went out with a knee injury this season. There's no Mike Davis who had about one hundred and fifty touches. And right now, Chris Carson is saying he's going to be ready for the start of the season. So respond pennies a guy that if you listened last year coming out of college him and carry on Johnson. Those were my two college love affairs, and college is a crazy place. You, you explore and calling barely. So the thing is, is. I think he's a talented back. And if he gets an opportunity for a team that runs the balls much of Seahawks. The following year he could end up being a great keeper. If you're looking really deep, let me Devon single Terry jumps off the page. I mean you talk on Levin, twelfth round draft pick that could be a keeper could have the main job next year, Royce framing Cortlandt Sutton. Those are other super deep Denver Bronco picks that could end up surprising, people, I like kike, cutesy and NPR leagues. You know, Brooks loves his Naim Hines Brooks does love Naim, hind Naim Hines is so confident because of Brooks is just public endorsement on the show that he believes he can get a thousand yards this year nine same Hines beliefs death because of Brooks. Wow. Brooks, this funny, timing n we were talking about Marlin macaroni or sleeper alert, eight one don't go Frank Reich head coach calls Marlin MAC, the main guy in the backfield Hines main third-down guy. But also says the presence of Paris campus going to impact the Rover Hines. Yup. Yes. And will not catch the ball. All I heard Marla magazine guy. It's funny because all I heard was Marlin. Michael catches your passes this year. That's what I heard Joe Courtney on Facebook. Would you be confident having Mitch Trubisky is your dynasty quarterback or would you prefer? Or who would you prefer the backup Dalton or Stafford who f- who've yuck? No. I would not be confident. I mean look, I would like to have Trubisky in a dynasty league. I'm not anti Trubisky in dynasty league. But if he is my primary guy in your talking about backups like dumb. No, I'm not confident. I mean, I would try to go out and trade for a guy who doesn't have, you know, like like Dak Prescott level guy who I think he's young. He's been fantasy relevant and proven, and he could step forward this year with an actual competent wide receiving corps and try to shore that up if I had to pick between Dalton and Stafford. Gra. Don't make me do that. I guess I go I think I could Dalton. Put it this way. If there's a chance that one of those two guys, I would go dull if there's a chance that Stafford or Dalton is not a starting quarterback next year. It's Dalton Dalton could be cut. Yes, could be gone. And that's you Stafford's contract is much better for like even if the the lions wanted to move on big. They just can't. But I think that Dalton has the potential was activity coming in as getting an offense of mine. A guy replacing Marvin Lewis the defensive as a defensive head coach, I think he's got weapons with Nixon and AJ green and John Rawson. Tyler boyd. So I liked them. All right. I don't know. Kate. You don't want people to get the wrong impression, don't want to sound bite. The just says, I like Dalton, I don't know K. Next is we're just wink or cross your fingers. Do something behind your back. Here's an AMA question that came in this morning. So people had questions about the show about the business about us, Jason, it's a simple. One Anton wants to know do any of the fantasy footballers have pets. Oh, yeah. Me. We do as well. You have fake pets. Oh, come on. So we have okay here, just for because I know people aren't passionate about their pets. Nobody's passionate. Fake pet. Number one, we have a parakeet bright fake pet. Number two, my son has a bearded dragon this fake pet. Number three. My wife has to. Fraud or a poison dart frogs and fake pin number four. My daughter has a fish. Yes. So that we have four fake pets, so you have pets, you definitely have pets, but I call them fake pets because because you have dog can't play with them. They're in a they're in a thing, and you look at them, you have your animal artwork. You got to golden doodle these dogs that, you know, come up on the couch and Lamma lap and cuddle up and yeah. You have portable messes. Well, let's just say, yes. That's true. You have a lot less than you. But I say I can. Hear me pet them. Oh, what we. Yeah. I get it. I don't pet my fish as much. It's difficult to get the scuba or the poison dart frogs. Yeah. We don't pet them as often airy dangerous. I think the bearded dragons only when it gets held. Let's put it that way, go. I mean, they are real pets you care for them. You guys love them. But their, their pet only walking it back because you don't want all of the I know. Bird. Ios or goods. I learned some new fans. You're listening right now. And you're like, oh, Jason what a jerk. He's so you know what? I'm saying. Sure. Clear to be clear. Neither of us have cats. And that's the emplo goodness. No. We've actually got a rule with the three of us. Anybody that gets a cat? Yeah. No longer. You lose your equity your counter out of the company. You're done. What if that's for sure? Going to be the first pet that I do get a cat. Yeah. It is going to be what you said. It is. Yeah. Have you had pets cats before? Yeah, yeah. Now you're not confusing. Those with dogs are you? They're both great. They are. Oh, Mr. Switzerland. One of them is great. And that's the dog. You know, if you if you take the plunge Brooks, just, you know, get the dander off before you come in. You want to keep your job. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Andy's it's funny because my wife believes that I would be a cat guy, but I'm really allergic to cats, but she thinks they're like the perfect pet for me because they just kinda leave you alone there off their their chill. Not high maintenance completely understand what she's saying, but they will murder and murder me. All right. Instagram question from Bo. Griff poke ref in twelve minutes standard, which chargers player has better value. Mike Williams in the fifth round or hunter Henry in the sixth round. I know my answer. I know your answer as well. Your answer is clearly going to be Mike Williams because I'm gonna spend so much time talking about Mike blames this offseason you really are. And I, I wanna see you're gonna make a mistake. But I see a lot. Of the rationale for it. It's just tough because he, he had eleven total touchdowns. He did it. And so it's hard. He's not going north. I don't think in the touchdown he don't probably won't go north in the touchdown camp. But he will go north in the snap percentage. She was in the sixties the total snap percentage on the offense and these great and tyrel is gone, and Mike Williams is ascending. He's one of the best contested catch players in football but hunter Henry is there. Yes. I know it's a standard league to we. And both of these guys are touchdown guys. So you're, you're, you're, they're both values in this situation. I well, no. Not hundred Williams is Mike Williams is the pick. Because look the difference between a touchdown guy like hunter Henry and someone you're going to get six seven eight rounds later, you go ahead and do the job of predicting which week to touchdown comes. It's, it's not going to be easy. I'm I'm basically on record or saying, you, you got the top three tight ends. And I would throw two more in there is. Consistent producers, and then otherwise I'm I'm leaving tight end for a longtime double digit Ron's. All right. Voicemail question. Hey guys. This is Corey from Pittsburgh. I have a question about Tariq Cohen, and David mapra -tunities. So I noticed that right now. They are right next to each other in the rankings, you guys seem really high on Davis Montgomery but to Cohen has a lower eighty p. And so I was wondering, if you would if you would suggest waiting a little bit to take Tariq, especially since early in the season he's making more work, so thanks. A lot guys. Like, well, first of all, that's a it's a great question. And I think when you drop these players you might be drafting them for different reasons. Right. I think in a full p p r format I would one hundred percent take the better value recall it myself. I mean half PR. I've got them back to back in my own personal not just like our consensus rankings. But in. Mind mop, mop paternity one spot ahead of Torri. And I think the issue is one of these guys could become a three down back and it's not Tariq Cullen. No doubt. So that's why you see two recalling going later. It's the hope that David Montgomery comes in gets the gets the Jordan, Howard workload of this is a team that really wants to run the ball, but also has the Kareem hunt. Skill set of they can have the same people. The same personnel on the field through passing nouns through rushing. That's couldn't do it last year, and so- Montgomery, ceiling to me is higher generally, and I don't I think it can go both ways depending on how you play it, but three down back so hard to find. That's the thing to remember, there's a reason people take those chances. Even if you're rolling the dice on one they're very difficult to find. And if you find one. Later in your draft. What an advantage that is if you have, you know, the common players on championship teams are the value running backs a lot of the times that you Philip Lindsey was essentially three down back last year. For fantasy owns great value later in the draft. Same thing with MAB, Rita last year, yet opportunity. You know they helped you alone because of the value got. So I think that's why mapra -tunities Montgomery. So tempting a lot of people the, the issue is, as we get closer to the seasons rookies always go up in ADP. That's what happens start low because people don't know them. They haven't seen them then they start going, they you know get a couple of trees easy game games and so- Montgomery right now is top of the fifth. Yeah. He's not going you. He very well might not be a value in the draft of he's stop the fourth by draft season which he will be. Yeah, I mean I think he's worth that pick. I'm not saying that's a bad pick, but it's not the Philip Lindsay. It's not the value, right? Guthrie's breaking in for just a moment. You've dusing. We do wanna remind the foot clan ballers live. Or hitting the road, my friend and were hitting a quick next week, will be in Chicago. Next friday. We'll be in Chicago. Are you in Chicago listener? You're talking to me. I'm like, no. I'm here. I'm talking to the listener who's in Chicago, if you're in Chicago, if you're around Chicago, New York, San Francisco, LA, Phoenix head to ballers live dot com. Grab some tickets. Come hang out with us. It's going to be awesome. It is going to be awesome. We are going to be talking about our individual knock consensus are individual breakouts. And busts at that show is going to be a blast. Yeah. So check it out. Bothers live dot com. Let's get into another question here. Let's go with. An Instagram question, Espy roster twenty seven and a half point per reception league. Would you rather draft Marlin MAC or Aaron Jones? 'nother Marlin MAC related question. Aaron Jones or Marlin MAC, I have been on record. I am a big Aaron Jones fan and I, I like Marley MAC. But I like Aaron Jones more, because I believe he can own more that backfield in mackinaw one of his they're both great picks. Aaron Jones is more risky. Aaron Jones is, is definitely more risky, because Marla MAC is the quote unquote mean guy. And for some reason, Jamal Williams has convinced other people that he should be a, a one eight one b type. With Aaron judge the ceiling is higher with Aaron Jones. So to me, as far as who would I rather draft. I'd rather draft the later guy. Yeah, that's I mean between these two guys I think they both have upside, and they both got, you know, some some worries. And right now, the later guy is Aaron Jones he's going. Almost a full round later than Marla MAC. So the upside with Aaron Jones as much as I like MAC, this is twice. I've gone against my MAC on this show. And I don't I don't like it is the truth. Yeah. Thought your big on MAC? I am. But that doesn't mean I'm exclusive. We're not just we're seeing other people. We're allowed to draft other running back even after college, you're still experimenting. Yeah. That doesn't mean I don't like MAC. Okay, here's another. Ama question that came in from deacon Baldi shout out to deacon Baldi's. He says, do you guys hang out outside of work? And if so, what are your shared interests other than fantasy? We do not fantasy. We are all cardinals fans. We are all cardinals fans. We all have three children, and so they keep us very busy. And I've known Jason for about twenty years. I known you for about thirty. That's creepy. But so, yeah, we definitely hang out yesteryears gone by all black football and basketball. Yeah. Basketball, and true yesteryears flag football in recent years. Movies. Tell me workout together once every six weeks. Why? Because you show all puts every six weeks. Right. Right. Sure. So. Yeah. We, we do get the families together from time to time we live very close together. We even occasionally go on trips. We'll go to Disneyland together. Yeah. It's been awhile since. Yeah. Once you stop paying I was just. All right, next question comes in from another Instagram question, when rather the number one overall pick or the twelfth pick. So you wanna be this is from dollar Bill to forty eight would rather be number one. Or would you rather be the twelfth pick in your on the turn? That's a good question. This is dynasty. I without a doubt want that I pick the top four five guys. I think are, you know, you trade up for them. So if this is just talking about a twenty nineteen redraft league where would I rather be usually I'd say the one but this year, I think I leaned more the two because there are we've talked about it. There's a lot of guys at the end of the first round and possibly in the second round that I think could be top-five backs. I mean, depending on how far David Johnson's fall you're Melvin Gordon or, or James Connor these, these players are players that I think in previous years have the potential to be what had to cost you one of those top three picks. And right now, you know, who's the number one pick in most ADP is saquon Barkley Barkley could finish below any of those guys. I just named you know what I mean. But if you pick I that means you're next player is the. Twenty fifth pick. That's hard. It is hard. It is. Our Seattle backfield question. Jason this one's for you. Okay. I know you watched all the penny this morning. Jeff New York City. How do you see the usage breaking down in the Seattle backfield this season? Do you think penny can overtake Carson this year, so overnight Carson if they both stay healthy? So if they're both healthy. I don't believe so and that's not because of respond pennies talent Pete Carroll is a players coach Pete Carroll loves his guys supports as guys. And he believes in Chris, Carson. In fact, he literally just this was hours ago was on records. And Chris, Carson is in the best shape of anybody on the team. He is a Chris, Carson believer now that he's still injured me still dealing with a knee injury. Can't play football right now. But pekair loves the guy. And, and I think what you could see happen. Realistically is a true one a one b where you've got to solid fantasy. Producers this season. And you can't do that, in many offenses. No. Definitely can in Seattle. You have a hundred and fifty touches for Mike Davis out of the way you've got a lot that's a lot. You've got a fishing see coming from Rashad penny that you saw last year. Rashad penny is cut. Wait. He is down. He's getting all the first team reps right now while Chris Carson is away, and you could really have a team that's rushing, the ball five hundred times breaking down. I mean you could have two players approaching two hundred carries one probably well over now that being said now at ADP right now Carson is the value. They're both. So then it's do you take Carson at, at his value or penny at his value right now. Well, if I had to pick it right now, today, I would rather go with Rashad Penney. Carson's a four zero nine penny is seven three. That's why as well as look you've got a guy saying he's going to be ready by the beginning of the season. But you. Would you be to have both on your team that would that would not be fun because you're you're, you're not gonna want to start both players at the same time? Yeah. And you don't want to spend a seventh round pick on a handcuff. So I would I I wouldn't I wouldn't stack that. Yeah, but I do think I mean, I'm Inc penny. Look, Chris Carson has never been able to stay healthy and is currently not healthy. So the question was could take over if Chris Carson is healthy. I don't believe so could Rashad penny. Be one of the best fantasy player best fantasy picks this season. I one hundred percent believe that he's got a very good shot of a breakout season. Alright. Let's jump into another voicemail. Hey, Baler steamed from New Jersey, talk strategy on startup dynasty weeks. But how do you change from redraft strategy on a startup Keeley rules are keeping free players and next year you keep them to round the head of where you drafted them. The previous year and no holding on to wait for players. Thanks. I love that last part of, I know no holding onto waivers. I love that. That's that's my preferred method for keeper leagues waiver players is they're great. You don't get them my advice for the and I have I have we've played in leagues like this all the time. I mean, this is this is kind of bread and butter type of league for us three keepers, I think one of the mistakes, people can make when they go into a league like this believing that those three keeper spots need to dictate so much of what you do during the season because they don't such a common mistake, because they don't there will all if you are managing your roster the right way, you cannot live in this frame of mind, where. Oh my gosh. You've just gotta have. I got a key. I gotta figure out my three keepers and just keep them on lockdown. I've got a trade my team. My team gets a little worse. But my keeper situation is set up. Oh, I got a draft this guy who's younger because they'll be able to key. Keep him for more years into the future if you're only keeping three or four guys. You're going to change what you think every angle. Yeah. Year and guess what? You do when you do that. You don't put yourself in the position to be fluid with what reality is. Because if you draft a guy that's a little bit younger for the purpose of being a keeper. And that player underperforms guess what you're gonna do. Are you going to keep him? Yeah. You probably are probably going to keep them, or you're going to try to sell them on what you bought them for him. Which is not gonna work. So basically keeper leagues you use the advice of redraft. Yes, don't almost entirely in less. You're keeping seven guys or more than it's been shifts to me to be more like a dynasty, where okay age is going to matter and seven keeper leagues are very very if you're in a three keeper the, the one place that it impacts. It slightly for me is around the trade deadline, just giving your roster a glance and knowing that you're in a flexible position with the Kiefer's, right? Yeah. If you have like we have leagues where you can, you're restricted on what positions you can keep you can't just keep. Three running backs. So if you're in a league that has some restrictions, you know you can only keep one at each position. At least make sure you have flexibility there. But that's at the trade deadline, you can make those adjustments. And you know, you're just going to be surprised on it by the time the year's over what players are good that you thought weren't going to be good in that type of thing if you're in a keeper league this little last couple minutes will will help you beat the other people in your league. This such prominence stare. All right. We're gonna do one more. Ama question here before we close the show out to KOTA road in has there ever been a big argument between you guys on how to run the business got heated so heated. So what was that argument about you remember the time we fought about? It's like what kind of snacks are? I don't I can't. I genuinely can't remember you've been around for awhile seen a beer kinda like the kid. You know what I mean? The parents are downstairs. In the kitchen. Yeah, what when you watch us through the banisters on the on the stairs. What do you tell your cater? When you hear the screaming when I put this question in your, I couldn't think of a single instance of the business have we arguments come from players, shuffleboard or. Yes, we get very passionate about self aboard. We're more filthy on that. Aren't we the only thing that will cause like twenty minutes of angered? Silence. In this office is shuffleboard foosball. Right. We that's the true. We've certainly disagreed. Four years of this business. We worked together for eight years before that. That's I we don't mind disagree. No. We like we like having different opinions on business things and in arguing over them and fighting until we get a solution. And, and I wouldn't say that we're always happy. You know, eventually if we disagree on how to implement ex. Yeah. One person will win that argument, and the other person will probably be a little like I think it's wrong for about ten minutes. Yeah, that's we're very thankful for that. Yeah. That's the max, you know, a lot of you out there. J Grizz gets really upset. He's he gets Pissy. He gets really is real busy. He keeps worse Sam. And I'm like, ever gets. The word is studio. Never gets a word in edgewise despite his kind of size, which has got to be disappointing. Got to be frustrating. I was his size. Yeah. I would talk for I wouldn't let you. No, I know. I know I will say this. I this genuinely bothers me when I see these comments. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna bring it up whenever I see a comment on YouTube. Where people think I don't like Jason. Yeah, it bothers, the heck out of me. Yeah. It makes me look inside myself as to what I eat, and he settled in that message and it makes me sad on the inside. And here's the thing, and I had to tell somebody the other damn like they're like, why do I get the impression and he doesn't care for Jason? That's someone said, I go. It's so far, the opposite lifelong friends. Yeah. We were were were very close. I know you love me. I think the reality is, we are passionate about our belief. Like like when I talk, it's really player based like. Like how I am right about Sammy Watkins. And you are so wrong. But you believe it's thing you respond condescendingly and you just I mean you come off. Right. I'd just. I mean see there's a little bit of truth in that big old insult you stirred us a little bit. All right. Let's move. Let's move on. All right. Today's pristine deal of the day. Michael Thomas sign. New Orleans Saints jersey. Oh my goodness. Forty seven dollars just reporting seven dollars and ninety one cents. Auction dot com. Michael Tom is probably never going to be anything. No, no, no. He's saints are probably never gonna break out not. 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AP Laboratory - Chiefs-Colts Sunday Night Football preview (Ep. 79)

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AP Laboratory - Chiefs-Colts Sunday Night Football preview (Ep. 79)

"Want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior Fan. What's up everybody. Thanks for joining us today. This is the AP Laboratory Game Preview Review addition for week five Sunday night football in Arrowhead could not be more excited for this game against the Indianapolis Apple's colts here to tell me about this game or my pals. I bought him on twitter at Chief Carolina Matthew Lane. Hello my friend Kid. Could you be more excited for this game if it was the AFC championship game probably oh I would really like to play the Jacoby reset lead the Colts in the AFC championship game. If we could just make that happen that'd be great. I mean he might not be the best quarterback there is. There's too many I'm confused by that state thousand that was legal. This is like Maddie's game again. I didn't ask you to spell yet but speaking of which do you want to spell out our third. Buddy Craig's doubts twitter handle for all listeners know sub guys. How are we doing today. I love that Joe. That is my favorite intro that I've ever gotten. There was nothing complimentary about it. There was nothing really good about it or we speak of. If I just I dig that on and even Craig leave it to Craig too shy through such difficult drug opening. I I liked the opening ever get down to the minute and a half. This is a new record anybody. That doesn't like are small. Talk very happy so let's just jump right into it. That's have you got seventy lunch. He enjoys listening to while he has added. I true three storylines on offense defense ashby do every single week for your Friday listening. We'll start with this one. Wait wait wait wait. Can we start with defense. No we can continue back to turn out for the first half of this guy's. I'll be back later well. The offense had a rough go of if it's in Detroit and still put twenty seven points up on the board but the reason that they didn't have a ton of success offensively or not up to the standards that we're used to in Kansas City. It is because they could protect the football. The lions made a conscious choice a conscious effort to try to knock the ball out of out of dislodging the ball from all the pass catchers in weapons that this team presents. You may be trying to steal possession here too. I it was it was. It seemed like a very a concerted effort a very focused effort guys. I wonder if we're not GONNA see this a lot more moving forward teams trying to steal possession trying to try to still two possessions nations for this team but I think when you have a team like the chiefs is so dangerous when they get these weapons with the ball hand you see you guys like Coal Hardman Sammy Watkins in me and one of the running backs. They're trying to make plays once. They have the ball in their hands. They get these opportunities they. WanNa pick up extra yards to run as good as they do to be more elusive Lisa runner in the NFL. You don't hold the ball high tight. It just doesn't give you as much body control to make guys misses. The ball gets a little loose. If you're trying to make people miss and it's just the fact it haunted onto Jamaal Charles entire career is little. There's people all throughout the NFL that hold the bowl listener trying to make guys miss. These weapons are no different than anybody else that plays the game football in the lines definitely took advantage of that they were coming in. They were trying to punch the ball numerous times. They tried a lot more than three times and they just didn't quite get it hit. The ball perfectly at the the first they were trying all game. I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams. Take note of that pay attention to ball security especially when guys running in the open field and try to do the exact same time down in if ball security and holding it high and tight is directly related to elusiveness. Leshan McCoy's the most elusive player in the NFL NFL right now my my man does not know how to hold that ball next to is next to his body now proud it is really Paul Minute. I do think that teams are probably going to try to knock the ball out a little bit more. Steve spagnolo actually was asked about this today and he made the comment is like you know when you're a defensive coordinator you have to pick and choose your moment because when you got guys that are taking swings at the ball like Justin Coleman Coleman was in Greenwich pinpoint this week but if you have guys taking swings at the ball like that you miss that's a missed tackle like you're not going to result old in a tackle trying to punch the ball loose like that I get it's kind of a big risk reward thing with the chiefs offense you can potentially end the drive have right there but if you miss a tackle against McCall Hartman tyree kill Sammy Watkins. You may give up a touchdown. You may see these guys how something like that so. I do think that there's going to be a little bit of a risk reward situation there. There may be some teams that try and do that. I think that maybe more traditional defensive coordinators are going to just try and wrap our guys up and try and bring him down. You can bet that the chiefs that airbnb probably specifically. I could could see this being a very eric. B enemy thing to do is emphasizing. You know protecting the football. I think it's made a good point. Matt and these guys are trying to make people missing space and that's when the ball isn't loose but some of the situations where the chiefs were losing the football were situations where they probably should have been holding a little bit tired like McCall McCall hardman running into traffic. That probably was the situation. You probably need to be protecting the football. Sammy Watkins that was really good timing on his career Williams. It seemed like it might have been a little bit of miscommunication at the Mesh Point two they kind of had some issues with the Mesh Point Between Daryl Williams and Patrick Mahomes this week but hopefully they get all those things right and it's not an issue moving forward because I think you kinda seeing in some instances even against tougher opponents. The only thing keeping the cheese from winning is them being themselves with stuff like penalties and turnovers and penalties and stuff like that okay. What are the other struggles that the chiefs had in the game last week getting the ball down the field with success. Patrick Balm's had one of his worst games really throwing the ball into trying to attack the T- tact attack a team deep. He was not able to connect consistently at all this week. It was just it was it was more it was more Alex smithian performance. I'm not I don't want to say that yeah but it kind of was you know you're seeing a lot more deacon. Dunk kind of mind run was definitely an Alex smithian thing to do. Oh Yeah knows that was great and I mean that's the best compliment ever true so I think this could be a week where the cheese could challenge the colts down the field and hopefully they're able to have a little bit more success week Mattie you. Even you certainly hope so there was this is the first time in his career. I think that Patrick Mahomes did not complete a twenty junkyard passive past considered that was deep down the field. He was overnight on such throws. There was plenty of them. Open not only just like go routes down the sidelines or anything but there there was a lot of those over routes that she's loved the run. The winds were specifically undercutting of as soon as the chiefs wide receiver shown that they were GonNa make it inside break lions quarterback under back returning going underneath the route into sprinting diagonally across the field. It was so obvious that it's the wide receiver just stopped in his spot wherever he was he would have been wide open. That's not what the route called force. They're not going to do it but even doing that. These guys were getting over the top of the corners and PAT which is missing. The touch throws often over the guy undercutting the routes he it's a couple of those. This game looks entirely different. We just gotTa get back to that. I don't think that Holmes is going to be off again going into a game with that said the colts. Do try to take that away a little bit. They do a pretty good job of trying to get keep everything in front of them. In Orlando team speed to rallied the ball so there might the as many vertical windows open but there's GonNa be some tight windows. You'll need to kind of that intermediate range that he was hitting against the lines and I expect him to get those right what is weak at Travis Kelsey Sammy Watkins. I expect those guys to thrive in those intermediate routes a little bit it is worth noting that they do not have all all world safety coker out there and that's a guy that completely changes the dynamic of that defense. Our Guys Zach Hicks six one of the colts. SP nation writers mentioned that that he ruckus in was is basically the best corner on that Colt team and that wasn't a big praise for rocky's and he's been he's been learning. He's been getting better but the rest of those corners owners of kind of regressed. They don't really have a bunch of guys that can that can really do it and click on some of that stuff so the chiefs are definitely going to have a little easier easier time beating some of the coverages that the colts are going to throw at them this week. We'll see if they get loose deep at the third and final storyline on on the offensive side of the ball. We're expecting Damian Williams to get back and Maddie. I know you're curious to see how that looks with with Damian. Williams return one hundred percent. I think I kind of called it. The beginning of the year that week four was when I thought the Sean Maguire was going to take over the running back at one or the feature running back so on and so forth and we kinda got that but it was Bhai injured so now the question is going to become where does Damien. Williams leaves fall into this is he gonNA be third down back. He seems like he's the best fit for the past the receiving back he's got that good linear speed. He rose really good routes. I thing records just simply a better natural runner. He understands how to be patient to read. The blocks set everything up. We've seen this every week. He has a big run every week which is really helping out his candy yards per. Carry Stat is the cheese run. Blocking just isn't a grinded into the ground. Get four or five yards every single character rushing attack. I did see that was John mcwethy thinks leading the NFL in terms of yards per carry from the shotgun by a comfortable margin in it really shows. I hope he keeps that role with David Williams back but they gotta find a way to get him on. The field is a receiver if not getting a few carries because he is dynamic when you get them going down vertically yeah I think you're GonNa see you know obviously not Darwin Thompson and he's had a very very limited role in a lineup in front of him that maybe he could have cracked Dera Williams. I think has earned some more snaps with this play recently but kind of as many it said in the previous podcast this week a lot of those plays at the end of the game where Daryl Williams was the primary target. Maybe you should have gone Tila Shawn McCoy maybe he he's able to make a little more out of some of those. It looks like maybe Leshan Shaw McCoy's on a bit of a pitch count. We're going to see that Damian. Williams is going to be able to come in and have a lot of those roles and that pleases us because he's he's a more dynamic receiver. He can convert some of that stuff. Especially late game was tired legs on the field. He can break some of those open. Be a little more dynamic than Daryl Williams. Is I still want Daryl to get some of these runs. He's definitely earned them but I do expect a Damian. Williams will be if Shawn McCoy has to come out. We'll be that guy at the end of the game. Darrell has barreled into the rotation who won a couple couple of things. I think the Sean McCoy when he's been in in the game amy I think the offense is looked better flat out. I think he's in his he's done. He's done the most work in the best work in the run game to this point. Ah with Damian Williams he's never been able to carry a big load. I mean he's really consistently struggled to stay healthy and he struggled to really rack up a ton of carries. I think I think most carries Miley fiftyish somewhere in that range during the regular season with something along those lines so oh you know he's a guy that has not really been able to withstand the rigors of a of an NFL season. You know as a lead guy and that's okay. He's he's still got a ton of value to this football team. He's got some dynamic ability in the passing game and he's still going to be needed in some stretches here but I just wonder if he's not going to be the workhorse or the lead guy in this committee moving forward. I would bet on it not all right. We're GONNA take a break and we'll be back right after this with three storylines on the defensive side of the football this episode is brought to you by Cox Contour. TV from Cox. You can find all your favorites only one place the youtube you. Bet El what about that net flicker thing net flicks too and although Superhero Movies Contour has all all the latest titles on demand and my grandkids love that big green guy. 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Craig is jumping for joy right now. Jumping uh-huh man has men has hops and not just the ones that you see how it is Craig. One thing you wanted to talk about is zone beating concepts in for the defense. They're going to have to really be good against zone. Beating concepts yes Frank Reich in the colts offense have kind of designed things for Jacoby. It'll be burst set they. They've kind of put him in a spot where he can open windows and he can. He can kind of stress. Some of these zone defenders vendors hit him on the seams and stuff like that. We saw against the Lions early in the game. The chiefs struggled with Kinda zone spacing some there's own communication. Gatien passing guys off. They're really going to try and test the chief zone defense watching the Falcons game watching the raiders game that the colts played against they really tried to open things up give Brusett good throwing windows. They give him lots of times. Throw lots of flood concepts high low concepts APPS. We've talked about sale concepts because he's got such a great offensive line. They can have him sit back there. Let these things developed trying to hit these seams in the zone so the chiefs are really going to be stressed there. They've got to tighten it up from what we saw against Detroit. In one of the things about Jacoby per se is he's not a big risk taker. He's he's not a good. It's not comfortable enough yet or is just not his style. He's not gonNA try to fit the ball of the super tight windows. He'll wait a second. He'll let that tight window pass and see see if he can find a saver pass underneath. He'll take what's given to him and he'll pick it up over and over again. Consistently does a very good job of it and that's kind of something that I think is Z. Chief's Fan candidates a little bit scary because the chiefs are proud to coverage busts. They are a little bit prone to having quarterbacks. Don't do a great job sticking on their wide receivers early elite late anytime really and so at this point in time you kind of got a hold of these guys are passing players off quickly between zones when if player is asked to get us to a specific civic depths they gotta get there because if you give an open guy two thirds so he's GonNa hit him and he'll take plenty of time to find that man. You can't just get out of position against him. The colts will make you pay and like chiefs. They have some athletes catching the football that you're GONNA have to be ready to take him down immediately or they can turn the short. Ones in the big gains one other thing that we're looking at for this game. It's something we've talked. A little bit about the last couple of weeks with with the outside run game with the stretch runs runs. If Marlin Matt goes that could be a pretty big problem for this team right Matt last year in the playoffs that she did a pretty good job he keep in Marlin Mac under control in part of that was they jumped out to a relatively early lead the colts had Andrew Luck. They felt comfortable trying to throw the ball around a little bit more to but let Marla Max Pretty dynamic runner. The Indianapolis Colts have a fantastic offensive line. They will let these guys go. One on one with any player gets run in the past. Ask they expect him to come out in win and he needs to chief. Team has struggled mightily against That's definitely something to keep an eye out for when you're defending. We've got us in the last last two weeks now. The Ravens were able to get outside on the chiefs and really hurt him on the edges last week. The lines ran a Lotta outside zone these stretch around but they were banging it back inside a lot because the over pursuit was coming. She's got a fine the mid line they gotta be able to stretch the runs out on the outside. Defensive ends or your linebackers got a hold better contained contained forced the running back to cut back inside within. You've got to have players at home. They just got to be more gap. Sound or the colts can really get going here and they haven't shown the ability to do so yet. Yeah Yeah not at all. MARLA MAC frankly terrifies me in the same way that carry on Johnson terrified me. They remind me a little bit of each other's their ability to cut cutback against the grain as well as stretch it out if Marla mack cannot go which he hasn't practiced so far this this week nine team hines is going to stretch run. He's not tween a very good athlete. He's not a between the tackles runner that does make it a little easier for the chiefs because because you know some of those cutback lanes and things like that that are getting blown wide open hinds isn't quite as dynamic isn't quite as able to or or any doesn't have that vision to cut it back. He's going to try and get to the edge as much as possible. The chiefs have to be crashing down on those they can kind of live out there with some of their alignments. It's a little bit and try and win that way like Matt said get Frank Clark up the you know up a little bit having disrupt same with Alex Oak four manual but those you guys have to win this week in the run game because if MARLA maximum out there the wrong trying get naim hines into space as much as possible Craig the guy was going to say yeah. I don't think Marlin I don't think ninety nine scenes sees it as well as Marlon macktaz flat out. He's more of a pass catcher type player in space player like you said so. I I totally agree there but the other thing about you know the run game for the colts. They have a really good offensive line that one of the better offensive lines in the national football colleague so this is a very big task for this group. The the front has to play well. They gotta play well this week. Frank Clark. We're We're going to see what we're going to see. What what you're up to this week. It's going to be a big challenge. Okay one other thing that you guys have been in kind of keeping an eye on is one thorn hills usage looks like he got pulled a couple times last week against Detroit Mattie yeah and I've been trying to figure out if there's any rhyme or reason to what he's getting old out. You know getting having a coach. Come out and tell us for sure and it kind of seems like a drive. After there's a coverage bus that you could potentially put on one thorndale. He seems to come out the next series. Maybe they're talking to him in the sideline letting them see how it goes maybe they. I just feel more comfortable putting Daniel Sorensen back in the game instead of thornhill just to make sure things don't get out of hand but it's happened a few times now. It's not a lot. It's just about one one. Maybe two series a game that one thornhill just kind of takes a quick breather on the sideline a hopefully he's talking to coaches getting to see how somebody else like. Sorenson who's the NFL veterans veterans running that same defense something else so it keeps creeping up into my mind. I wonder if there's a correlation to win. The chiefs are expecting to face a run heavy attack because we'll thorn hills. IOS range is amazing and he really comes down to fill the alley against the run. He saved a couple big plays from being bigger plays with his ability to make tackles. He has a tendency to dive dive ankles and take s`pore angles end up missing the tackle that is wonder if they're trying to fulfil the better tackling role at the safety if they're expecting kind of a run heavy attack on that drives right and the two drives the one thornhill came out right after the first drive of the game the first quarter there and the Lions scored a touchdown down miscommunication they in coverage four thornhill and then right after the lions kicked the field goal after after one of the chiefs fumbles in the third quarter so both of those situations the lions were up they were winning at that point they needed needed to have somebody in there that can maybe protect and guard against the run a little bit better like we've seen thornhill has had these issues all year long but it's different when you're protecting a fourteen point lead seventeen point lead and you can have him back. They're expecting that they're going to try and throw because that's that's where he's really going to thrive and he needs the Reps. Frankly I'm not worried about him. He's going to be a very good player. He is a very good player but he does need the reps ups. I think maybe Steve's Fag. Noah was trying to protect the lead a little bit but it is something worth monitoring in this game and going forward. If there is that rotation tation that may start to tip off what they're trying to do a little bit more yeah and at that will definitely be something the monitor see if we can get a bigger sample size see if we can. KINDA WANNA get a different idea of what the trends are but yet Craig said. There's no reason to worry about one point four games into his career if he's getting getting pulled in some situations that's Kinda normal the guys starting for crying out loud. I mean he's already getting a ton and earned a ton of opportunities to this point. Maybe they're just you know. There's there's just a few things where they're you know wanting to. Maybe let him see things from the sideline a little bit or you know see improvement as a tackler. I think that's one of the big things I totally agree. He's he's not been good tackling to this point. He's been in position a lot which is great and maybe Dan Sorensen's not always in that position but dance orces probably finished in the tackle Michael is he did sorts ankle about that. Yeah I like okay. We'll go with that one okay. We got players to watch on both sides of the ball Craig. Kick us off with the offense who you watch it on offense. I we talked about him a little bit already. I WANNA see Damian Williams coming off of this injury. I WANNA see his dynamic nature. I hope it still they're like we mentioned he. He's just a another element that the chiefs don't necessarily have when he's not there as a pass catcher. They don't get to run the same kind of routes. They don't get the same kind of dynamic nature for him. Even though derives had a fantastic catch on a laser from Pat Mahomes but that was one of the best throws of the season no one's talking about really really really was fantastic catch but Damien Williams. Probably we has two yards of separation on that guy at that point. I just WANNA see his integration back into this offense. It may be clicks. A little more picks up. Some more are these third downs. We've seen Damian Williams and the games that he's been active kind of go that extra mile a little bit more pick up some of those tough yards on third downs in the passing in game. I think maybe that little element was missing with his absence a- past you know past couple of games here my watches Mitchell Schwartz. I know during can't process in the preseason he was dealing with a little bit of back stuff and so far to start this year he had the same Mitchell Schwartz in years past. I think part of it is the chiefs offense. Offense is ever-evolving. Patrick Mahomes is clearly running the show this offense is fully adapted to him which means a lot more ad-libbing mahomes drifting pretty deep pocket doc it's because he has the arm to throw from an extra yard or two deep it. lets him see the field. A little better in the interior offensive line's shaky to but you've seen a few times shorts is getting up the Ark and I'm just wondering if he's not used to blocking that same depth on a consistent basis like he has been this year beyond that you've seen a couple of reps especially against Trey flowers where he was able to pretty much bully him out of the way on the inside move so I just want to see Schwartz return back the form start to get feedback under Durham and it's not an easy match up just in Houston is the kind of Russia that usually gives some problems against a little bit more power and technique heavy than just pure speed so if Justin Justin Houston gets over there. That's a match up to watch if not you'll have Komo co teret orange ball sheared across from. I just want to see him dominant again kind of slow dull people out because 'cause. I think it's been just about every week this year. You found a couple of plays or shorts. You're just like okay. That's not unusual for him to get beat like that when it happens in week after week it just starting to perk my light years up a little bit that maybe that is still bothering him or maybe he's a little uncomfortable and this particular protection scheme right now yeah and you're right. Maybe this is a big. They test for him this week so it's worth monitoring and it's a good idea to be keeping on this week. We'll go with Sammy Watkins. It's not been a as explosive last three weeks is what you saw the first week. He's getting a little bit more attention that sometimes I think he struggled to separate a little bit at times this week against the lions. I don't know if he's one hundred percent. Maybe he's maybe he's a little bit hurt. You saw him Kinda limping around a little bit last week but it does look look like he's just he's not quite as explosive. Maybe not as consistent as he was earlier in the season and I mean that's it's nothing I'm not alarmed but it's definitely something. I want to keep an eye on this week. and it's worth monitoring him as well. I will say this regardless of that first game. He's he's still getting you know fifty between fifty and sixty five yards a game so he the last three weeks. It's not like he's fallen off the face of the earth. He's still averaging averaging a little over fifty yards receiving a game which is fine season. I will say evinced the line. He drew their best available cover corner unjust and Coleman Jessica who's a very good player the go he finney walking beat him on a few more plays than he got passes for whether mahomes looking somewhere else or he was under pressure nailed to give him the ball. What I went back to watch walk. INS did give Coleman the business plenty. He just wasn't always targeted on it and a lot of it was the usage. Sammy Watkins ran at at least ten over routes in all but one of them Justin Coleman immediately went to undercut in just forced pat to throw it up over the top where they were Kinda plant safety help so he didn't get the best of Health from the coaching staff but he does not come down with some of these contested catches like we're starting to get a couple of weeks into it now and there's been a few too many balls broken up at the catch point. Zanny fall protection to because we saw that last week as well all right Defense Craig all right my guy that I lead this season that I was really excited to see Alex for Alex Four. Has Frankly been a disappointment frank. Clark is getting in all the attention. We've talked about it. Trust me everybody. In Kansas City won't stop talking about Frank Clark and the amount of attention. He's getting or not engineer engineer getting or however you want to take it whatever the case may be. Alex Okafor's getting less attention and Alex Okafor is not doing frankly enough off especially in the run game where before this season. He has shown significantly better than what we're seeing on the field right now. He wasn't necessarily a great crate run defender but he was a good run defender he he was able to set the edge well. We have not seen that this season guys. They've been going around the right right edge of the defense like it's nothing sorry the left edge of the defense right edge the offense like it's nothing where Alex Okafor's located there. You've got to Z. Alex OKAFOR's step up. It's a really tough task is probably going up against Brayden Smith who looks very good this season that is a very good offensive line but he really really has to step up set these good hard edges in the run game because he's very very very important to making sure that Naim hines and Marla Mac don't get loose this week doc sticking with the aspect of stopping the run BAIO watching defense is going to be Damian Wilson. I think he's been by far the most impressive linebacker I think he just seems to have a little bit more aggression coming downhill against Iran. He's shown more flashes against the past and I expected. I still think he doesn't look particularly natural trying to drop and cover guys. You've seen like that touchdown that fantastic throat by Matthew Stafford between like every defender on the chief team Damian Wilson. He was cocked weird ear. He was shuffling rather than dropping. He wasn't a position to even attempt to alter that passes it was Bhai not that he could have just little plays like that where he's not a natural coverage linebacker acker but that's okay if he keeps playing like he has against the run. I like his demeanor his aggression the only thing I really want to see him hitchens they gotta figure out who's spilling mm-hmm who is filling because right now both guys to be flowing at the same speed in the same direction too often and it's allowing both of to get beat off the same cutback at time and I and time again so I just WanNa see somebody gleaming on Damian Wilson this time 'cause he's look better so far. I just WanNa tag before. drops his guy here your guys the best coverage defender for the chiefs defense this year that's had any amount of targets is Damian Wilson seriously he. He has a seventy two percent success rate in coverage. The next highest guy is brilliant so he's he's doing a gap in about how how terrible the linebackers wearing coverage last year. Damian Wilson has been a big surprise on that front and that's not to say that he's going. GonNa continue to be that way but so far this season. He's done a very good job against the pass. He showed some promise in training camp even to like I it was a little bit. I was kind of pleasantly surprised with this on training camp and I'm not saying I am not trying to say he's. I don't want him on Hopkinson down the field old mill wow. He's got surprised his ball skills. He does a good job locating the ball. It's getting his target even if he's slightly he does. Hey good job identifying the ball trying to make a play on it. Something that are corners could learn a thing or two second best ball skills on the team right Daviel Wilson to we we had a we speaking of the cornerback position we with thirty minutes of this show without talking about our cornerback savior clayborn. He's back guys I. I'm not even sure he's going to be active. If I'm be honest I would guess he probably is but we're going to find out how much how much much opportunity he gets his first week back. Are they going to ease him in. Are they going to let them play at all. I'm sure he'll probably get some run. Maybe it's in garbage time time and based on all of our predictions. He's going to have some garbage time so I'm curious to see what what we get out and mow clayborn if if we get any idea of what he's going to be looking like this season and how how much we give him all right fellas prediction time. Craig how right I've got this game with Marla Mac and T. Y. Hilton playing in it. They are a two very dynamic players. They do the things that the chiefs defense is the worst defending I. I'm frankly a little bit tentative about this game. I do think that the offense is going to be able to put up plenty of points. I don't think the colts defense is very good but I do think that the colts offense with those you guys on the field can hang around a little bit longer than we want. Defense comes up with a couple late stops to make this look a little bigger than it actually is but I'm going thirty eight twenty twenty seven in a closer game than it looks like most weeks or pre lockstep on the score. I got the cheese forty. He won the colts twenty seven but I think we get there through the entirely opposite path. I don't think the game was as close as that score looks. I think the colts last year played very hey good football. They they executed their game plan in their performances as close to their talents ceiling is humanly possible and that is bound to fall off at some one point in time to the NFL and I think you're seeing that this year especially without injury. Luck the tape over all team talent from top to bottom for the colts. I don't think is good enough to keep keep up with the chiefs. I think they will just simply be outmatched especially when the chiefs have the ball and the chiefs defense will be able to just enough against a Kobe percent especially Ashley if Marlin Mac won't play to keep a comfortable lead for the chiefs mostly game late in the fourth quarter. Andy Reid is gonNA start to Kinda. Take his foot off the gas at a probably start even earlier. Maybe mid third quarter lead. The colts get somewhat back into for that forty one to twenty seven victory but I think the chiefs will comfortably control this start. I keep picking the chiefs defense to have kind of. I don't want to call it a breakout game a mini breakout game where you know better you have two savers ores clayborn Craig. All your guys is points are valid about the run game and how it can present problems in a good offensive of line and and all that stuff is great. It's a great point. If the chiefs get out to a big enough lead the game script. Is it neutral yeah and you WanNa know something. Do you know how many points the Kansas City chiefs defense gave up to the Indianapolis Colts in the playoff game last year. No I honestly don't remember I was there. I don't remember thirteen okay thirteen points. They scored thirty one this week. The chiefs scored thirty one points on offense seven from a one thornhill pick six and the chiefs only give up thirteen point thirty eight thirteen Kansas City chiefs well on Saturday night football with Justin Houston and deport man's John's happening again this week without them. Good Alex OKAFOR's shows up. This is insane. This is going. This is going to be chiefs. Bengals Sunday night football like it was last. It's GonNa be a big W. It's a get right game. They learn learn from their mistakes last week they they're pissed off for greatness and the chiefs win thirty eight thirteen. That's going to do it for this. Week's episode this week we will be back to break this game down through the mail bag on on Tuesday. Catch you later yeah.

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Week 13 Waivers & QB Streamers, Whole Milk on the Sideline

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Week 13 Waivers & QB Streamers, Whole Milk on the Sideline

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Melvin Gordon intro who was intentional in the bitter beer face. I know what you are doing Melvin you got two weeks buddy, at least for me. Sorry Fook land. If you do next week, Mike has well, my let's just laid out there for people ask all the time. How are leagues are going? And this is I think why this show is so successful is because we're with you were fighting in our own leagues, and they can get it just hair. Yeah. We're not on you know, an island given advice, we we're we're in the thick of it while most of us. Yes, now, Mike and I league of record. We're you know, we're it's like the Lakers Celtics rivalry. Yeah. Of days by like, the you know, Bill Russell Wilt Chamberlain EPA. Battle our audience is loving this analogy. Yes. And Mike, and I have a history we faced off in our league of record, which is like a tin Lizzy eleven I believe eleven or twelve we faced off three times in the championship game. Wasn't it? The three times three years. View. It was known as the nightmare years. Say it was literally willing that has ever happened. I mean, there's a lot of in human history. A lot of tragedy is as like a dictatorship. Yes. There's been a lot of you know, horrible things that have happened in you know, in the annals of humanity. But those that three year stretch is the true dark ages. Well, we're trying to get into them. Again. We both we both locked up the by week. Yes. It's it'll be opposite sides of the bracket. Yeah. Heading towards each other. And I hate you both. Yes. And I'm just excited to see what happens, but my has Melvin Gordon. So yeah, I might have played that intro on purpose. You did because I begin par psychological warfare is starts now nine nine tenths of the battle. As a pro troll. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I have the soundboard over here. Welcome to the fantasy football or spike asks any Mike and Jason back again, Tuesday, November twenty seventh waiver show heading into week thirteen loss to talk about at this. Point in the season. You're no longer talking about waivers in the context of oh, wait and see stashes or maybe this guy works out. You're starting to do you starting to think more about? Lots of different things one is like imminently like you need a player this week to play. So you survive must win. There's a there's an element of defense. Right. You're you don't want somebody that you're playing against to grab somebody valuable this week. There are defenses that you're picking up for the playoffs. There are hang cuts for your running backs or important position player situations. The by weeks are over right you. Yep. You substituted for golf in for Mahomes this past week? Now, you have a roster spot because you can dump that streamer. So there are a lot of decisions to be made. But they're different now in week thirteen. Yeah. Yeah. You know, one of the things that this week is a little different. I I wanna bring this up now because we don't usually cover. I mean, we we make a quarterback streamer, but we don't really talk quarterback waivers in general because you know, so it's a onesie position. But if you're in, you know, dynasty deeper leagues where it's a super flex a multi quarterback league. You're going to have opponents. Who lost? Andy Dalton who lost. Blake Bortles who are going to need that second quarterback. Don't forget about the o'driscoll's old. And the you know, the Kesslers does doesn't have the same ring. Oh, if I could pay somebody to help me forget those two players. And I thought you were going to say this, which is if you are because we'll have streaming quarterbacks on the show today, but you do need to treat. If you're a streaming quarterback guy. Or gal you need to treat that position a little bit. Like the defensive position you need to stash a couple of weeks ahead you need to look at the quarterback match up. You can't be flying by the city your pants in the playoffs. So we'll help you out today on the show. Follow us on Twitter at the F ballers again, the giveaway big giveaway right now for clean giveaway dot com. You huge giveaway. Huge. Not like Hugh Jackson. No. I would give away. Do. I still have the Hugh Jackson. I think you ceremoniously disposed of it. Yeah. He did the right thing. He's not good. The fantasy football dot com is the website tons of articles. We have a an amazing writing staff. Did we say the giveaway euro? Yes. Playing giveaway dot com. I was just thinking about huge. What's should go was that the AOL keyword giveaway? Just put that in their styles. We are old Instagram dot com slash fantasy football. Let's talk briefly about this Monday night game. Holy crap. This was one of those over under on the week was it was one of the lowest. It's not what I was expecting Tennessee, Houston. And I mean, Houston almost outperform the over under by themselves. Lamar Miller twelve for one sixty two and a touchdown had a ninety seven yard run. It was funny. His first drive of the game. He was chunky ten fifteen ten look like three or four of those. He almost broke the distance, which is not something you talk about Lamar Miller, very often anymore. And then he did he broke. He broke it out for ninety seven. It's a good run. Yeah. Well, and that was an NFL stats Twitter account tweeted out that was the longest rushing touchdown since Lamar Miller did last time at ninety seven yards. Yeah. While he was saving up for this for a while Andre Hopkins. Five for seventy four didn't score. Mary his Thomas scored twice KiKi q t I guess exited within a hamstring injury. That's bad. Yup. Because he's a good player, but he's been dealing with a hamstring problem. Yeah. Kiki is in trouble. Tweak. He did he tweet. Yeah. Very nice. Very to Maria's is interesting though, maybe building some trust couple couple red zone targets couple touchdowns. And then the I'm physically dubbing the Tennessee titans. The most unpredictable offense and football. And I'm going gonna say Corey Davis, the most unpredictable firings history. Four for ninety six and a touchdown that gives him to gray gains at the last three. So there there's that. Yeah. He's the new Amari Cooper, whenever you think you can't play me can. And when you can you can't I it's hard. I I don't want to Bank on Mario. And on Corey Davis. I think this is one of those land mines situations where if you get it, right? You've got a crystal ball. And so I almost want other teams to have Corey Davis because you're going to play him. If you get the wrong week for Tennessee's offense. It's a a, you know, it's a two for eleven some kind of bad performance. So it's hard to predict but two out of three weeks. I mean, he's pushing for some fire. He's a good player himself. He was Martin Cooper. And that was what we dealt with for two seasons. Jump into the news. News and notes from around the league. All right. Let's talk Jags. The the news has been been handed or the sentence has been handed down from the judge Leonard fournette one game suspension for violating the unsportsmanlike conduct policy. He has appealed. Yeah. He was going to say he's set to appeal for no reason, you don't get a key has usually Leonard. What's this case? There is a lot of times if you're kicked out of a game. Yeah. You don't necessarily get suspended. But it was quarter. There's video evidence that millions of people saw of Leonard fournette this. Here's the difference to me for four net. He was not in that play. He was not involved. He involved himself into the fight. A and that gets you a game suspension. When you you instigate the fight you start throwing actual punches to a man's helmet. I just really want to know what the defense. It wasn't me. I didn't that was TJ. Didn't mean it. I didn't even his helmet was on. It was dumb of me. It's like your kids when they when the one child flops the other one that I I didn't mean to you did it. I saw you swing. It's true and control them. Do you wonder sometimes because from what I understand on the field of play, regardless of how competitive things get saying certain things is offline of course. Right. And so I wonder is there ever a defense. That's like he talked about both like my kids would give me like, no he did this. He said this thing about my family or whatever the your mom defense. So that's why him and then they go. Oh, that makes sense for we'll know by Wednesday, whether or not this appeal was denied science flea or slowly I will be so shocked. Yeah. It changes. The I I don't know you guys will have to come up with something. I have to do where a dress to work because it's not. Wow. Wash her. Okay. It's not getting repealed. You hear that out there? So you're wearing address to work if as playing this week. Sure, okay. Cody Kessler will be the Jags starting quarterback going forward. Yeah. That's that's gonna fix it. Yeah. This was kind of Doug Marrone sat down. And he goes, what can I do that doesn't involve me firing myself? And it was I'm gonna fire the offensive coordinator who by the way, that's a that's not a small deal. That's a shocking deal because he was with Nathaniel Hackett through three different stints in college in the pros. They're close. And here's and he said, you take the full. Here's the problem. I'd been in Blake you take the fall if you had wanted to make the move from Blake to Cody Kessler fine. I I understand that move. But doing both of these in a week. I I don't think is a good football. You don't know what the problem was? It's three strikes. I mean because you lose four net as well. You. Let's take our starting running back out our offense coordinator, change it. Put someone new in their calling plays for the first time. And let's put a backup quarterback in there. I came in this morning. Okay. Who do the Jags Paul? Yes. The call now. I play the colts D. Yeah. You know and then Kessler behind center, Andrew norwell. Yeah. They're big news Dr guard out for the season. It's it's it's burnin down in Jacksonville. All right Marvin Jones place on injured. Reserve with a knee injury ending the season. There's some pretty big injury. Reserve news yesterday. So Marvin Jones is done. I think that turns Bruce Ellington Ellington into an interesting PR wide receiver for the rest of the season. Yes, I agree. He's he is a pickup for sure Andy Dalton injured reserve with torn ligaments in his thumb. It's time for Jeff Driscoll. Jerrell risk will take care of the Driscoll start teams against the Bank. Yep defenses because Tom savage was also claimed off a waiver. Tom savage has like a tent and a bedroll, and it's all in the waiver wire area. That's where he lives. He actually he lives at the airport. Guess yes. He's just waiting. Did. You I saw report somebody lived at the airport for like two months. Yeah. It was Tom Hanks in that movie. I saw that movie. Yeah. Jeff Hier mend broken ribs bruised lung. He is done for the season as well. Jack Doyle, Jack Toya's John done for the season. Is that confirmed? Yes, he is done injured. Reserve kidney injury for Jack Doyle, Eric Hebron, all the bad for the colts. Because Doyle is a much better blocker, but Eric Hebron's on the field. Now Eric Hebron is top three rest of season. Yeah. Carl Shanahan said that Nick Mullins is indeed going to start. I thought they'd go back to CJ Beathard. They did not trust the process, man. Gotta get that high pick. I don't even know. Why you oh, okay. You're going for the pick. I was like why? What process? Jimmy Garoppolo is your future. It's it's so crazy to me like there's certain coaches where like Dirk cutter, but kind of San secure he's got a long term contract. He he only benefits has nothing to gain by winning. Yeah. I mean, sure confidence. But obviously there's intangibles with your team. And what they believe. Yeah. But you know, how what turns that around the first overall pick in mediate hope possibly fully injected into your locker room. Rex Burkhead activated off of injured reserve we talked about it a little bit yesterday. Mike made the point look you at least have to knowledge. The fact he could surprise the Sony Michelle James white owner in and only in a bad way. Yes. You basically do would you agree with this? You're not signing Rex Burkhead. You're probably not playing Rex Burkhead. But you might be sad. Because expert I think you should sign him in stash, you're not signing him to play him. But you're also rexburg Burkhead. Now, a handcuff we've talked about the high value handcuff if Sony Michelle goes down that would not be shocking. He's gone down multiple times this year or if James white MRs time, Rex Burkhead is okay. It's super interesting play. It was brief but Sony did time last out last week. Yeah. He missed a drive at least, I think he's just Paul Pearson. It. Yeah, he does come back the truth here. He's no map Brita. I would I would pick up birkhead in in certain situations. Okay. Anything else that you guys wanna touch on in the news? There's a lot of news there. I mean that was a lot of players season's ending. Thanks. Thank me in coach. There's a bad day for the I r or was does that mean it's a good day for the I R lights. Is it a good day for detention when more kids show up is that like, yeah, we got a guest the entity of the I R if it's like, yeah. It's like the nothing from the never story. Yeah. I was thinking of the plant from the little shop horse. Oh feed me. See you got is nice reference, bro. Did you ever get sent to detention, Mike? I know that just maybe think of the story I had the one the only incident I ever had in high school was I showed up late one day, and they had instituted this new garbage rule where like you can't get signed in. You know, when you're late the parent can sign you in. It's an excuse thing. I had an excused signing late. And they said, no, you gotta go to sweep, and I said, no, thanks so tempted to leave the school, and then an officer of the long showed up and said, why don't you come with me? And they sent me to sweep those jerks officer of the law. Yeah, we not like a school. No sheriff. I know an actual officer horseback. Yes. Mari Jason herald fro for under ten tension trips. I actually I only got got sensitive attention once and it was a good story. But it is a story that another day or shared, okay? We'll get into a talk about it. When the show is over for good. Okay. Good. We're talking waivers chiefs Rams back off the bye, no more by weeks to worry about. It's go time for a lot of leagues. This is your final regular season week before we fourteen fifteen sixteen playoffs. Let's talk about wide receivers the main waiver wire pickups at wide receiver for me. When I look at these guys because there are a number of players that we could discuss and all that you guys bring up names that you like, but it comes down to can I play them this week. And do I do I look at them as viable starts for a couple of weeks. If I need them for me, the number one guys Josh Reynolds. Sure wide receiver for the Los Angeles. Rams. He was on buying week twelve and I like to Detroit matchup this week. When I when I look at everybody else. Now, look if DJ more sitting out there on your waiver wire. Okay, go get DJ more for the Carolina Panthers. But and the dos rentals DJ more if he's. Not if DJ because I agree. I I looked at your list here of who who you had prioritize. I'm in one hundred percent agreement in the same order Reynolds one more to but those guys are probably taken, but the player that I'm really excited about because of the matchup and what he's done this year is Curtis Samuel. We. I mean, that's a name. We barely brought up on this show because he's not a high volume guy that you can really project them predict often courtesy just been unbelievable in his opportunities. We knew coming in that he's one of the fastest guys in the league. His main issue was health. Look he was on ninety two percent of snaps. He's ranked number one in wide receivers and fantasy points per target per pass route run that might be skewed depending on if it's all his rushing work. That is adding in there, but they play in Tampa Bay. You're telling me Curtis. Samuel doesn't have a great opera. Unity to torch someone for a sixty yard bomb touchdown or rush. If Devin funchess is out. I completely agree. But I don't think we have any update if funchess's looking like he'll suit up this. I feel like even funchess is there. Even is there. Funchess has been there. Most of the season and Colonel meals that swing for the fences. If you need a play this week, and you've got to get someone off of waivers and the big mostly owned guys are gone. So you're digging from the bottom of the well, I mean, he has scored in three of four weeks in what I what I like about bringing up his name. And he he did deserve to be talked about previously. We didn't talk about them a lot because the more kind of overshadowed it and the low touch totals, but if you're in the in the realm where you're going. Well, I want to start to show Jackson. Well, why aren't we talking about courtesy annual in the same breath? Right. He scored five times this season four times the season and three in the last four weeks. So he he deserves to be talked about in the big play capability, and he gets at least one Russia week. I mean. That's kind of what happens. So he's worth a discussion in the matchup with bay is. We'll bring them to the top of the exact water cooler chatter in. If is out I agree. But if you're talking about swing for the fences guys, I think that there's there's some other options on the waiver wire that I would rather scout out. I, you know, guys like Adam Humphreys, we talked about Sean Jackson briefly there. He seeing a hand specialist. That's Sean Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. That's generally, not good for a wide receiver and Adam Humphreys has been fantastic. So Adam Humphreys or Chris Godwin they're available in more than half of leagues. I would. I would be checking for those guys. I it's not that. I don't like Curtis Samuel. Do was a second round pick it rookie. You would be hyping the. Yeah. Yeah. You'd be. So basically is excludes right. You lost last season. Yeah. So it was couldn't find I think it was. It was the addition of DJ more in the. Nice in the first round by Carolina felt like the team was already moving on from Samuel. But they are not. Yeah. He's a talented guy. So Mike, then maybe you should speak to some of the other names that are highlights for you. I mean, Trey Kwan Smith. And for some reason, you know, he was not active on thanksgiving if he's out there. Yeah. I remember I have is about fifty percent ownership. I would rather have him. Then Samuel would. I I am struggling with right now of which side of that fence what I lean David Moore from Seattle another monster game, and he gets to play San Francisco now he's similar to what Samuel has been doing where he's not in on that that eighty ninety percent of the snaps, but he keeps hitting big plays as well. Jay, would you rather have David Moore or you still go with Curtis Samuel? If I need a one week play. I would go Curtis Samuel first, but David Morris high up in that list for the deeper less owned players that are still. Oh, good. I mean, San Francisco is a great match up. So I do like both players, but I would put Curtis. Samuel ahead. Okay. P p pals Trey Quinn, Bruce Ellington, Adam Humphreys, those three guys if you're in a PR league, and you don't want to get goose. You're not gonna get goose starting any of those. Oh, no Humphries will be the the top of that list. Would you guys rather have Trey Quinn or Bruce Ellington? I would take Bruce Ellington. Yeah. Because he's higher up in my opinion is higher up the depth chart and priority for you know, and I it has a better quarterback with the match up against the Los Angeles. Rams assuming the Rams are going to score a lot of points than the PR volume should be there for Ellington as they need to use him in that, you know, that golden Tate type of role. Now, you Andy you eloquently. Rebranded MVS? Show. Correct. You can drop them. Are you gonna play? The we talked about air. Rodgers not being playing at the level that we are accustomed to. Are you going to play the game with e q Namias same Brown now? No, no. I don't wanna feel pain. I try to avoid paints. No, I would not play any three names. Packers whiteouts at this time. All right. What about the vaunted Rogers Adams? Oh, I wish I knew as Dave. Yeah. That'd be pretty crazy. If it was Rogers. Yeah. It would be because of errand they before we get to. Good job, bro. That'd be four. We get to the running backs want to thank light stream for help sponsor the show the holidays they are approaching. You may be thinking how you're going to save a little bit of extra cash, consolidate your high interest credit card balances to a lower rate and save with white stream light stream offers credit card constellation consolidation. Loans from six point one four percent APR with auto pay. And if you compare that to the national average credit card rate of over nineteen percent, it's pretty significant saving. 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But I want to bring up a couple last minute names wide receiver. I I want to tell you this listen to this. I'm twenty four point six percent British and Irish, oh, yeah. I got it up seven point five percent Jewish really. Yeah. Interesting. The only point five percents finish though. Disappointing when I am I ninety five percent Norwegian. Thank you. Oh, wow. Does. I can't already. Trampled. Your great joke. It was very rarely finish. Yeah. There you go. Are you interested in either of the Williams brothers from Los Angeles? Yeah. I if either of them, no, I'm going if tyrod Williams is practicing in full, that's the guy that I would be really interested in with with Melvin Gordon being out. And pittsburgh. The Steelers are playing great ball. This could be that type of game where I do like tyrod Williams I like both of them. But I would order them tyrel than my right running back waiver wire pickups. Like there are we are there. Some big names for me here. There are big names for all of us. I look it's eh cler Edwards atoms. I mean, those are the big boys and they're very owned, but hopefully, very very own. So those are the like those are the only guys if they're on owned, and I can grab them. I feel good. You know, putting them right into your lineup. Obviously Austin that cler likely to to have a big role for multiple weeks. Hopefully, you grabbed him if you're the Gordon owner, but there are a lot of leagues out there where he's available or have been dropped in recent week how so you look quickly because those three guys are probably taken, but they are the clear cut three best pickups. How would you order them between Ecuador egg? If you just had your pick. Yeah. You you can pick. You've got the number one way. Reclaim all three guys with their. Well, I'm gonna look at it in the one week timeframe. So I would take Gus Edwards Josh Adams, and then Austin cler, I even long term. I would go Gus Edwards. Number. He's the clear number one. And number two. See I would go equa than atoms. Gus I get that. But you gotta talk about Justin Jackson when you're talking about Los Angeles chargers running backs he came in. He guy. He looked good. He he got more carries than Austin equa. He's he's not a gigantic guy. But I mean, six foot two hundred pounds, and he had a really excellent college production profile. He was an interesting guy. I think he was drafted in like the seven. Yeah. It was a seventh round pick to me coming into the season. I thought he actually had the juice to push Austin Ecuador for the backup job. So now here we are. He's got an opportunity. I think that he will play. And I think that you're looking at a timeshare where I prefer to have actor but just Jackson's getting forty to forty five percent of the running back work. That won't surprise me. In the slightest. You guys. Feel the same about one hundred hundred percent the same. I'm glad you brought him up because he is a guy that if you are in need if you're in one of those situations where all these great players are owned and sure out of running backs you lost four net, and you know, in Gordon on the same day or in your scraping the bottom of the barrel. Justin Jackson's vailable in one hundred percent of leagues basically and two hundred percent two hundred percent leaks. He dominated in college me and north western. Yeah. No. He was good backbeat trashing in the preseason member that. Yeah. Amber, we were all surprised, but he looks great in this past game. We were a little surprised when he dropped to the seventh because going into the NFL draft. He was one of the guys that was like, yeah, he has he has he has some juice. He could he could make it in the NFL. So now, he's got an opportunity. That's what you want is running back. Juice. Yes, I feel like that's been the that's been the refrain for two weeks, you want juice. Well, you don't want. You know, I'm Meltwater. I don't wanna plotter if you like legare blunts got milk. You know, look Luxair blunt. He's on the sidelines. Some guys get Gatorade. He's getting whole milk drinks. Yes. Down on all milk on the sideline. And then he goes, you got the whole milk was a bad choice moment sometimes spring for milkshake. Oh, sure. On the side of the boys to the yard. We got to bring up. I Carlos Hyde as well. TJ Elden because it's the colts in game script. You know, you you don't know how that game's gonna go. If Andrew luck is able to do what he doesn't throw three touchdowns because he just does that then yelled and might be more involved. But I do think hide is well, first of all he's more widely available yelled news prefer if both Jags running backs were there. I would take hide over your pretty good match. Indianapolis nineteenth against fantasy running backs Brooks. You and I are faced off in a very important dynasty league match up. I don't have any wide receivers left. Would you allow me to play Carlos Hyde and the wide receiver spot is that something you'd be willing to throw? I don't think this system all out. Oh, wait. He's if but what if you what if you could do you do it? Now. There you go stand up stuff. I love it going down. I think I am on the other side of that ball Marlin MAC, reminder he did exit with a concussion has the full week as far as I know Marlowe MAC does not have the concussion history that you'd be concerned of missing Sunday. But he certainly could. And if Marla MAC is out similar to like, courtesy Bula funchess is out. It's I love Curtis Samuel. If Marla MAC is out while I don't love the matchup Naim Hines in replacement when he was the featured bag he was putting a serious fantasy points. So he becomes immediately. Interesting. If Marla MAC is to miss. Yeah. I mean, the matchup is not great. So I don't love it there. But you're right that he's he's going to be the back to own Jordan Wilkins who started the year. As like, hey, we're going to give him the workload. Right. He has shown that he he didn't have enough of what they were looking for. And he fumbled again. And he's had a he's had a little bit of the Itis. So I would I would certainly lean name Hines. But I I do expect Marla MAC to be okay. All right. Other names, you guys want to bring up just I would say handcuff watched please Spencer ware geo Bernard Malcolm Brown. Those are absolute must own guys. And then guys like Wayne Goeman from New York rod Smith, the backup in Dallas and Rex Burkhead. So I think that if you have the starting running backs from any of those teams listed you need to start protecting your lineup you need to have points going into the fantasy playoffs. Tide ins, let's talk about some tight ends. Look I didn't bring him up early because I knew we talk about him again right now, which is Johnny Smith Johnny Smith last night one play. Yeah. One catch sixty one yards in a touchdown. And I guess you had two catches or two yards after the big one. They just didn't. They never went back to them. It was very bizarre. Why in Marietta was twenty two twenty three on the nine mostly short passes? You surprised that he didn't get more ball? Very. I mean, Joe is a great athlete. You know, we said I think it was on yesterday's show or or maybe it was last week's about I like Joni. But there they they don't utilize him the same way that they were using utilizing Delaney Walker. And then of course, he goes in he had to really important plays. One was the long touchdown run and one was the complete matador with on JJ watt. The I mean, it's not his fault is JJ watt. Right. But still it was a sorry. Sorry, marcus. Yeah. So. Cameron -brate would be the main tight end pickup of the week. But he's probably not owned. Chris Herndon continues to produce for the New York Jets. Are are you guys? I'm concerned just because the quarterback situations a little back and forth. Like, I mean seven for fifty seven on eight targets. I think that was the peak targets for her and in this was also the most naps that he's ever played true. He he almost eighty percent of the snaps when he'd been just sitting in that, I'm sixties, I'm actually very interested. If you want like a, you know, it's hard to make a decision between a bunch of these middling guys. But I think see CJ Uzzaman makes the most sense to me because Driscoll with Driscoll and the past fry of Denver. I mean score one big score for CJ just need one six thirty nine Driscoll will need that help underneath. Yeah. I do think he'll key will be a viable star. I'm guessing he'll be part of the plan. I mean, they they have a plan. Yeah. Okay. So you've got to trust. You've got to trust that. Hey, here's another name. I this is the name. I thought you were going to bring up, but Matt Lacoste you Jeff Hier men has been very involved in kind of you know, you could start him in you cannot. But Matt Lacoste tight end for Denver with higher men out for the year and a great matchup against Cincinnati. If you you know, if you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. I would rather play us alma as well. But other guy I thought you were going to bring up. Was Jesse James Pittsburgh, Vance Donald left. I believe it was a hip injury. If ants McDonnell is going to miss. Yeah. Then Jesse James is is a low end tied in one to me. I would take Jesse James over at Zomba and over Lacoste if in. Yep. I need is one big score on from Jesse James got a plane. Sneed more town. Love that. Like seventy percent of the audience has no idea what we're talking about. We're not going to tell you. No, no, no. We rely on the Twitter. Comments to inform you we love. But just one more score. Defenses this week. Denver Denver gets the take on since the natty very nice. Buffalo takes on Miami. They could look their way. Nice New Orleans. Do you like New Orleans defense against Dallas? No, I don't really like them against Dallas and Thursday night Kansas City, and Indianapolis those are two defense is you don't usually play and they should not be owned in most leagues. But the they are going up against Oakland and the aforementioned destroyed Jacksonville Jaguars inspect Derek Carr. Back out there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Either way, I'm fine. I'm fine with their car that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes better. And so just take another longer term look at the is Denver is set up very nicely with matchups upcoming against the Niners the Browns and Oakland. I think there and then Cincinnati this week. So if you grab the next four weeks, you can play them and they're available in about half of leaks. So they would be my stash probably my or weeks ago. And that was we have been talking about it back then. But maybe there's people who are slackers. Yeah. And they're procrastinators. And now they need to make something happen. Denver still could be there for you. Absolutely one one thing. I wanted to look at did you guys see that keep to leave is probably going to play this week. I saw he was he got the designation which we knew it was going to happen. You have more interest in the Rams. Yeah. The Rams defense at all. I was trying to figure out their next four games schedule real quick for you. They play at Detroit this week. Okay. In Chicago, Philadelphia. Arizona in championship week. Yeah. Don't Rams d. In Arizona in week sixteen is very nice. Yes. Very nice. Here are some drop questions for you guys because we just went through a ton of names in waivers, but people need to drop somebody in order to sign somebody. So would you drop we're gonna play would you drop? Okay. You ready Brooks he prepared for this? We're gonna include Brooks in this. This is trucks. You're going to weigh in. Jarvis Landry would you drop? Jarvis Landry to sign somebody else. Yeah. Jason's. Yes. Mike. Yeah. I would Brooks. Yeah. Okay. Since Freddie kitchens took over as the OC. He's averaging about six targets a game instead of the twelve or so that he made averaging with Haley with wide receiver specifically. I'm looking at okay, Josh Reynolds. DJ more Samuel start. Courtroom Sutton, was corden Cortlandt nothing. We are you dropping inside. I am not. Yeah. I If Reynolds was out, I would drop them. But I I want to hold Sutton. What do you mean a franchises out? If Reynolds is available if he's out on the waivers is what I meant Brooks. I'm trying to hold onto them to hold Jordan Howard mission to yesterday. Yeah. Have to hold them. Nope. Draw you drop, and I'm holding them might said he wanted to bomb somebody with Jordan Howard bomb. Yeah. I'm and I said I understand the game that I'm playing I know Jordan Howard, all the sudden could be incredible. But I'm I'm gonna gamble that. He's not he has. He has to grab one of the best handcuffs like the top. Yes. I would do that your team. Well, let me let me ask this. Then because you said you'd be willing to pick up Rex Burkhead. Right. Would you rather have Rex Burkhead on your team than Jordan Howard? As a standard if I have Sony or James white. Yes. If I've if I don't have those guys in just standalone value, I think I would hold Howard then for that particular player Royce Freeman. His schedules to good. I'm gonna hold them. Yeah. He's also a one of those high value handcuff guys if something happens, the Lindsay, then Royce Freeman awesome. Duke Johnson drop them. See you. Alex Collins draw him gone, that's but you got spokesman time to move on. Also saw golden Tate on this list. Drop them drop them. Yeah. Full stream ahead. All right. We're going to jump into some quarterback streaming options. Now, the the really low percentage guys that are available. There's not a ton of viable offs. I mean you can look at Josh Allen with the rushing yardage. You can you can look at Cole McCoy, I think could surprise against Philadelphia with that secondary being beat up. Those are the like bottom of the barrel. Scraped the bottom, and we're tacking the bottom of that. My my backup to Mayes stream of the week is so I'll start here because case keenum is also widely available. The matchup against Cincinnati is very good. And I think case has been laying better he's playing well, he still has not put up superstar fantasy numbers. But Cincinnati is a perfect remedy for that. So I, you know, I think you could do worse than case keenum this week. That's my backup. But my true stream of the week is Lamar Jackson. The reason I have a backup. We don't know that he's going to be the starter could be Joe flacco but Lamar Jackson Atlanta. Goodness gracious. I mean Lamar Jackson had three E two interceptions and fumble those interceptions. Had they not been one was deep. You know near the red zone where okay that's not just take away. Six points in turnovers. That's maybe add an extra six points in getting in the end zone and a twelve. Swing without that he was still a quality start because of the rushing yardage. So if he is if he is the starter, he is absolutely my stream of the week, and I'll jump in here. Just case keenum is the the the stream for me this week. And if if you are in a dire situation, and he's he is available. This is my reminder for Janus Winston who's available in just over half of yahu leagues. So I'd say a lot of people listening to show James is not available. I would say the same for all these quarterbacks kind of talk about. That's why case keenum is the the most streaming of these fellas I'll go with Dak on Thursday night number. I have right now is forty three percent on ESPN leagues. Right. Thursday night football. He has New Orleans and it's been different with Amari Cooper for Dak Prescott. You know, that the way New Orleans is playing this is not going to be a ground and pound only Zeke fest. You know, you guys have talked about Baker Mayfield excitement for him rest of season. I'd rather play Dak this week. Then Baker again, Hugh in Houston. I I agree with that is funny. I put Lamar Jackson in and I knew I needed to have kind of a pivot guy because he might not be the starter. And I had not seen your guys starts. And so I went oh it's clearly Dak and then I was like, oh, he's got back. All right. I gotta go looking. Oh, well, I think you could still make Jameson streamer. Oh, Mike, Scott him. So you like your guys is picks, quite the internal battle raging. Those were the streamers for this week. Let's get into the main bag. Mailbag? We love answering questions. That's what we live for. You can send us your question on the website, the fancy footballers dot com. Click the submit a question button or dial the voicemail hotline three zero two four six four T F F B as three zero two four six four t F B will start with a voicemail question. Hey, this is Logan calling from New York IV sandwich show. Just wanna know how you guys rank Austin necklace now that mental Gordon's down one or should play him over somebody like gusts. Yes. I would go with Gus. Yeah. I that's what I had said earlier. And would you do that in? Does that change? Does it change anything in a full PR cours actor will probably catch a lot? I would say what over under six catches for Acklin. Yeah. I mean, if Ecuador if it's a full p PR and keep in mind, Alex Collins was gone last week. So if Alex Collins is active in the game, and it's full PR. Then I would swing to you know, if if I had to pick one of those guys started it would be equa, otherwise, it's. Julio in Los Angeles question. I'm in I in my league, but just lost baby hands Jack Doyle who's a better waiver tied in Joe new Smith or Benjamin Watson Johnny targets. But Watson has a better schedule. I think I go with Jesse James. Yeah. I think I picked both those guys over these two. What about Herndon? No, no side of Herndon is nothing like Joan who can score. He scored a bunch like Ben Watson he can score. I don't I don't think I'd go Herndon the Herndon floor. I was gonna say. I was gonna say I agree if you just wanna floor. That's fine. I think I would take her in and over over those two guys. Okay. All right. Justin in Davenport, Iowa of Alex Collins and James white on my bench. Do I drop them to pick up players like Spencer aware and Murray because of the upside you don't drop James, no way. No, no. I think about this. I assume you have like cooking and what Kareem hunt. If cook goes down can can't you see yourself starting James lighter. Davis Murray in the right match. I could. Yeah. I would I mean because if they answer to that question is you're always gonna play the handcuffed than do it. Go get the handcuff. Yeah. I would drop calling for where though if I've cream hone Mark and Philadelphia, what do you guys think is the right way to handle tiebreakers in a divisional league, which holds more weight total points four or head to head record? So two points for that would be my my personal vote. I think I love divisions. I love divisions because of rivalry and over the years, I think divisions a fantasy football great. But the best most accurate tiebreakers who had the better team through the course of the year. And that to me is total points, I'm fine with both personally because if you have head to head, and let's say, you know, Brooks, and I we face each other twice but beats need to times. I don't mind that being the reason why I don't make the playoffs. I like to head Ray in Los Angeles Bonjour. Yours keep hearing why that's kinda chief he's from Los Angeles. But he said to me, I'm taking it back. I'm not rude zombie. That was fun for backwards. I keep hearing people vote to eliminate kicker fantasy leagues given the atrocious tight end landscape week to week. Are we at the point where we consider moving tight ends from fantasy rosters as well. No, do you wanna know why? Because I wanna know why great here. Whoops dukes. You're going to get rid of the two. Running backs too predictable. Here's unpredictable. Here's why we just had a whole show a show that we've done six hundred and fifty times we talked about tight ends. And we've got right. Gee, we talked about who you can pick up who you can't matchups who's been doing. What would their athlete profiles? We've never talked about kickers. You haven't listened top podcast, really digging deep. We don't care. You don't care. It's we're not going to get rid of tight ends because we actually care about those type of metrics on the field performance, the snap counts. And the things that we can kind of let me let me box it up. Sure put opponent predictability isn't the only element. Then. Right. It's not just a rouse. Who is this? Unpredictable. You can get junk what Michael Thomas finished fifty four spots worse than he was projected finish this week. That's unpredictable. You don't give it a wide receivers. The the main problem is you don't talk about because we don't don't care, and you don't care, and they're they are so beholden to a bunch of variables. You can't control. Right. You know, is it the end of the show which kicker has a better chance for their offense to be in a two minute drill. At the end of the half. That gives them an extra kick. You can't predict that. And it's not fun to talk. Just don't care having said that I'm very glad they're Greg's airlines on my team, sir. 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Regress -or- Impress + Baldwin News, DaeSean Hamilton

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55:41 min | 2 years ago

Regress -or- Impress + Baldwin News, DaeSean Hamilton

"Hey for clan just eighteen days left until the ultimate draft kit is released and this year. It's back and better than ever one hundred plus player profile videos, a brand new companion app rankings sleepers breakouts. Bus everything, you know, love and more alternate draft kit dot com. Based on Hilton listened to the fancy footballers podcasts. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from pristine option dot com studios with your home's Andy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike, right? Welcome in. The fantasy footballers back again. Mike is here. Yep. Jason present barely. I'm Andy Holloway. Jason, I are still reeling. Great night. Great night of television to be had by all. That is literally why I said I am barely hear. We're recording this show late afternoon on Monday may thirteenth show is being released Tuesday may fourteenth. So we are just we're hours off of the what the second to last episode amo thrown was no spoilers. No other than it was the worst episode of all time way, you worry about spoilers. I do you can't you can't go on Twitter. You can't watch the news. I get it. I mean, this is just if you want. Here's the thing who is a game of thrones watcher as like I'm gonna wait till Tuesday. What? Second last episode of all time who firefighters. Well. Okay. That's that's a strong point. I was gonna say smart people this week. If you wanna have a good Monday night. Days are still dealing with. You know, we were hashtag team, Danny? So you know, what it's like welcome into the show today, we've got regress or impress relook. Look at some players last year that we may have different opinions on coming into twenty nineteen whether they're going to continue what they've what they did last year in putting up some impressive fantasy football performances. Whether we expect him to regress regression is a big piece of predicting bust candidates via coming here Jaffer. Yeah. Totally fair. Because when you have impressed, you move up the draft boards, and you gotta take a look was this just a player emerging in the NFL was as a player truly having a breakout. Or did they just have some kind of fluky statistical outliers season that was great while lasted, but you need to avoid them. No. And one of the players that impressed. At the very end of the season day, Sean Hamilton wide receiver for the Denver Broncos has a great opportunity this season. No, Damaris, Thomas recovering. Emmanuel sanders. He'll be asked again to step up with Cortlandt Sutton and perform he's joining us on the show later today, you'll hear that interview. And so that'll be fun to talk about day. Sean and talked to Dacia. Yes. All right. Quick question today. How much do you take into account divisional defenses? When you value a player not much, but I take into account fully. And what I mean by that is like I look at strength of schedule. Whenever I'm standing out the team. I look at the history of player, and in my opinion, I think that the divisional match ups they're just baked into those. I mean, obviously, if if a players changing teams if they if they were traded or sign him free agency, then their history doesn't quite have the same. You know, I might factor that in a little bit more. But I don't ever with the very few. Exceptions. I don't ever just go. Well, you know, they're in a tough division. So I'm gonna get out of the whole pie. How much of the pie? Jason do you think of the divisional match ups, for instance, few years ago in FC west has Seattle Zona tough defenses yearning euro AFC west had Denver, you know, at the at the peak of on Miller era shut down, you know, the secondary ins in Los Angeles. Then was San Diego. Yeah. I mean one percent of the pie. Yeah. Because I mean, I guess you give it three or four percent. If you're taking into account that it is baked into like, I said, you know, their schedule their strength of schedule and they're in their history as a player is there a division right now where you look at it and go holy crap. Though that are those are three monster defenses that I wish I could avoid. No because think about the best like who are the best defense is Jacksonville. They're up. Is one of those? Oh, you we want avoid them Jacksonville in Houston. And then division. I mean Houston's. Yeah. Houston's been okay. But they haven't been dominant. Like there were a couple years ago. It's fair. I just that was to your point of when the NFC west was crushing him in you had three really strong defenses. Are there any defenses that that, you know, they their defenses have been built up over the course of like seven and a half seasons? Only to horribly let you down at the end of the like last season. Or is this an Arizona Cardinals reference. Oh. All right. Right. They had a mask. Made out of iron or steel and be a really big cheer to explain it to you, James. I feel worse now than I did. Oh that was built on a really solid foundation. People who can read between lines knew exactly where it was going. We're not disappointed in the slightest Abby outcome. How about the Vikings and bears? I mean this fair, but then the vitamins struggled last year. We always go say in half the other half, the the Packers are, no. And I look we've we've all made it through our initial twenty nineteen projections ranking statistics relations, Jason in fact, thank you as far as I know there, they'll be up on the website either. They are right now when you're listening to this or they will be in a day or two, and then obviously the full projections and all of the sleepers breakouts bust that's us in the ultimate draft kit. But we made our way through and I can't say that. There was a situation where I was looking at that schedule for a certain team and said of no because they have to face, you know, this team four times or two. Yes, teams four times we got you can find us on YouTube YouTube dot com slash the fantasy footballer see Mike wave at the camera Instagram dot com slash fantasy. Footballers are fantasy community is joined the foot dot com with over five thousand patrons supporting the show get next. Stuff like a foot casts a bonus episode each and every week and like if you're new to the show where a five day a week show starting in August. We go up from two a week to three a week in July, but you can get three week right now joined the foot dot com. We're also add free Institure premium. You can subscribe and listen for free on apple podcast, Google podcasts. And we appreciate all of your support. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league presented vice sleeper. So big news. Doug Baldwin is announcing his retirement after eight NFL seasons. I believe one of the tweets he let go said his watch is over. Yes. His watches over Doug Baldwin. How will you remember Doug Baldwin fondly? I will remember him as a great NFL wide receiver who had late breakout? But stuck you know, he's he's really the model of you know, for for people that are like this players been around for a couple of years and hasn't done anything. We know what he is. And then he breaks out an actually was that was the new norm. I think of Robert woods for for me. You know, he was around for several years with another team. It was like all right. It's nothing special. I think you know, Robert woods like like Doug Baldwin. This is the new norm. How much of that has to do with? The fact he got the luck of the drug got paired up with Russell Wilson, you know, Robert woods about the. Jared Goff says you say about the same amount as rubber would well in to Doug Baldwin's credit on draft. I mean this to move from that to a very lucrative career. A very successful career became a household name in the fantasy football community that that's how I will remember him eat. He is a man who broke out of the the impossibility of of being an undrafted wide receiver into into setting himself up for life. Yeah. I said he he always defied expectations. And he was always open on the field. Eight route runner was crazy for. I mean, you bring up the Russell Wilson thing is Doug Baldwin was always so close like he would show up in waiver reports because he would flash every now and now and again you like I like this Doug Baldwin guy. But it wasn't until that year with Russell Wilson where he was like averaging two touchdowns a game over the second. Half of the season. It's funny because for fantasy owners those players when they do emerge late. We know that we don't believe it. We don't buy it. We just wait for the shoe to drop. So Baldwin was one of those guys where it never dropped. He was just great now. I tweeted a shout hands when it comes to shoes. Yes. Sure. Mike I shout out to Doug Baldwin. He's talking about the shoe dropping. No, no, no. We're not going to know. Your career arc going the same way of Danny's shout. Somebody goes to the media replied to me giving a thank you tweet Doug Baldwin for his career. I said shadow to Doug Baldwin one of the best immediately. The first reply shout out to him not revealing his injury until three days after my draft crippling crippling my name for several weeks. We're living in a fantasy football world in fairness to me. Now, it's pretty early here. They drafted I guess, no. Did he's talking about last year. All right. The patriots have signed Ben Watson to a one year three million dollar contract. Does this? They already have varying Jenkins who has been a little bit injury prone. Ben Watson joins on a one year deal with the absence of rob gronkowski. I guess he thinks he's still got something left in the tank. Do we care? The only reason that I care is because I would have had varying Jagan's as slightly higher asleep or candidate someone that you could buy cheap. And just hope maybe he gets in. Now, if he's splitting time, I don't think either one of them could be valuable. I tend to agree now. Does this close the door on some of those rumors about gronkowski returning late in the season? No, I don't think it closes the door. If you are in a dynasty league. For example. Would we view release rob gronkowski whole? Honestly, would you release him to the free agent pool? It's always going to be a matter of who am I releasing him four. I don't know. Let's say Dan Arnold. Oh, those opposed. Okay. I would rather have gronkowski. Than Dan on. Yeah. So what I think I think gronkowski has rather. Just open breakdowns back. Yes. I he has a higher chance of having fantasy relevant. Production ahead in the man, who's not retired in the man who's not retired. Oh, sorry, Dan. All right. The patriots signed wide receiver Dontrelle Inman, formerly of the colts to a one year deal. I spoke repeatedly how Inman was the second best receiver on that colts roster from the time they picked him up last year. What does this mean for the patriots offense that already has too many wide receivers? I think it means you're gonna have to wait as a fantasy owner for the filtering process to happen housed Mary's his injury. What guys make it through camp? Do MAURICE Harris who flashes in camp? Yeah. I mean, I can't wait for the fifty three roster cutdown day for New England. There's just we could all pick three completely different wide receivers to stat as the primary secondary and third option or seconds or fourth outside of Ataman and still waiting on. Josh, Gordon, news, one of us could be right. It's flip a coin. The patriots did release. Bruce ellington. Oh, let me with an injury designation which I had not seen until moments ago. So that makes it like one percent easier. Falcons head coach Dan Quincy. Devante Freeman will be ready for training camp. Excellent. Always always important. To be healthy to play football, especially with demont the Freemen's injury history. So look, I think we're all kind of bullish on devante free. We took him in the mock draft last week. I mean, it's not only if you wanna bet against them because the injuries that's perfectly fine to me. But he's you're getting him in the third round. I'm I'm doing an industry mock draft right now I easily got him in the third round. He's going to be the starting running back for what I'm projecting to be a very high powered offense yet again, I think Andy or with me that you believe in the Atlanta Falcons as an offense. I want starting running back Freeman dealt with foot and knee injuries early in two thousand eighteen but it was a groin injury that required surgery and ultimately send to injured reserve in twenty seventeen. It was MC L N P C L, the MC L has healed by now, but the PCL could linger into this year. It's a matter of like, you said risk aversion with devante Freeman Mike you and I both. Matt Ryan as a number five quarterback on the year. As of today, we believe in that offense and the opportunity they have no Tevin Coleman is. Devante Freeman and Edo Smith JR you as in on. Devante Freeman as we are despite I know, you're not in. Oh, Matt Ryan, right? So are you still with the falcons? I am. I'm a yeah. No. I think the falcons are going to be a very good offense as a whole just like they've been the last four years but half of the years those years Matt Ryan hasn't been a fantasy force because the running game was there. And so I I am not as bullish as you two are on Freeman. But I like everything being laid out. I think I'm just more injury adverse when it comes to him. There's such a a multitude of injuries right now that are piling up as he gets to an older running back age where I get more and more hesitant. And when I'm on the clock. Oh, you know what I want? Devante Freeman or Josh Jacobs 'Sound again, we'll take just shakeups. Who? Yeah. That doesn't sound good. And and so, you know, those are the questions where it's like I tend to find myself citing against him. But I'm not anti. Devante freeman. If he stays healthy. He's going to say you don't. Yeah. That's two things. Right. You're risk averse on him. But if you don't like now Ryan, but you think their offense is great. You have to like devante Freeman if he's healthy. Yes. All right. Be sure to switch your dynasty league over to sleeper. Whatever your league is get started over on sleeper. Download the app today. It's free. It's fun. We're going to get into regress or impress here. Momentarily before we do owner remind people your chances now, go to ballers live dot com. Chicago New York. San Francisco Phoenix tickets are left in those cities LA is sold out. Come see the podcast live come have a blast. You will enjoy it. I promise it is a lot of fun. You'll be part of an episode. You'll get to enjoy great time. Meet and greet. Ask your questions live at the show. It's it's a lot of fun. We went with ballers live dot com because super awesome party time dotcom. Just in roll off the tongue even though that far more accurate. Well, and it's not available Brooks had registered at years ago. And would not sell it to rooks Mudgene. He's fine. He's a squatter. He's humane slaughter. He has a lot of like ten to twelve word phrases. Oh, and he's been sitting on for years. He's been holding McDonald's with z for like five year. Yeah. Yeah. With a K. Mcdonald's or they're going to be coming for any. You're going to be rich, and you can get out of here Brooks. All right. Let's get into it. Back down. Your jokes? Mike, San Juan about your your one liners Goodwin. Andy. When you insult someone with her own bed joke. Yeah. Welcome to my level. Kill me. Kill me. All right players who had more of an out of the ordinary breakout. Twenty eighteen season will they regress or will they impress in twenty nineteen? Oh, all right. Let's start here. Let's start with Jared. Well, Gier gear dare garf-. He was the quarterback seven last year guys seven. Yeah. In two thousand seventeen he was the twelfth last year. He was the seventh. Well, I think we are all in the regression category. And I don't want really I don't want to be. Well, I don't I mean, I got him at eighteen and he finished at seven. I haven't moved twelve. So obviously, it's a slight bump down. But I I don't feel like I see him as a regression candidate. I am bullish on Jared Goff. He's he I've got him as a quarterback one. Seeing. Gear. No king wants to be announced that way. No, no king. But this is the king. We have king Guthrie. Oh, you mean back when things were perfect. So the Jared Goff had a tale of. Of our? What has happened? Oh, we ago when you offer you really wouldn't wouldn't Joffrey was the king things perfect. So Danny was good. Then. All right, gone. So here's the deal. Jared Goff was a tale of two seasons. If you look at you know, the first half of the season he wasn't a top seven quarterback. Like he finished two thirds. Well, sure, I mean, no, it was it was more. He had more games where he was playing great at the very end of the season. He was a complete dumpster fire. CJ Anderson was like all touchdowns belong to me. But if you look at the splits with without Cooper Cup there. You know, he wasn't as good. When Cooper Cup was gone. The offense wasn't as good things kind of sputtered a little bit. But the beginning half of that year. He was the quarterback to he was right behind Patrick Mahomes and was on fire the offense, Sean McVay believe in Cooper Cup coming back. Now, I've got him as the third of the three wide receivers. If he was healthy. I'd have him as the number one of the of the agree little triad. But I mean, if if they're back in their healthy, I know Todd Gurley is a big question, Mark. But I'm all three of us were. Big fan of what we saw from Henderson. They spent money on him. So I think they're office is going to be fantastic. Outstanding. I think all three wide receivers are gonna be valuable I- shockingly, have Robert woods. And I say shocking even to myself. I knew I was bullish on him. But he was my wide receiver. Tin when I finished my rankings. I am not I do not believe Jared Goff will regress. How do you view? His troubling end of the season. Do you? I know you had girly injured and you have Cup out. But you also had a situation where they were schemed against successfully in the Super Bowl really bad Super Bowl by Gough. Does is that something where you finally saw him come under some pressure in full does that change your view of him as a NFL quarterback fantasy quarterback at all might? It's it was an unfortunate scheduling situation because if you look even though I know that when you throw out the names like Detroit in Arizona, you think of bad teams from last year actually had Saulat pass defenses in in his worst game was against Chicago. A Philadelphia was also in the stretch he put up three hundred thirty nine yards against Philadelphia. When everyone was crushing me just he just didn't have a passing touchdown. And that's what kills you and fantasy. So for those final five games. Four of those teams were actually like top eleven in when it comes to giving fewest passing yards last year. So I think it was it was just a mixture of all of those things made a witch's brew that Jared Goff could not overcome for fantasy. What's tough is? Yes, I have off. Rate lower than people want him ranked. But I think even Mike M fourteen it's a private like other players more. I don't like him being a fourteen, but it's he's just behind other guys. Right. And I think we did see something some weaknesses, you know, for him to put up some of the single digit games. He did at the end of the year to know that you know, is girly going to be one hundred percent back. I think I agree with you. Jason Sean McVay is running the ship. And if he has to drag people with him fantasy points stick with them too. So I think it'd be very productive and give you big games. I just I just like some other players more. That's that's fine. But I do wanna make sure fancy owners I they shouldn't overreact to the two biggest most visible implosion one being the Super Bowl ks not going up against Bill bell check with two weeks notice in the super every week. Okay. That's that's an outlier type of game. And then the other one was that Chicago game you. Mentioned. I mean, he was four interceptions. I don't think he cracked two hundred passing yards. But if you go back remember that game. It was like twenty degrees. Ms Harold a weather outside Chicago's great defense. And it was just that's tough game. So finishing at QB seven. Regressive impressed finish the seven last year regressive. You'll impress in twenty. I'm I'm saying impress not that he'll finish above there. But he will have a great season in two thousand nineteen I think he will finish below seven. But I I think off is a safe quarterback one. Even even though my rankings have him just outside of it. It's it when you're raking when you're ranking quarterbacks it's tough because you're trying to to project who's going to have that slightly. They're they're Caesar's a little bit of an outlier because they over producing the touchstone department. Now, I agree. And I think what people don't realize to even with these fantasy finishes if you took a quarter if you took a quarterback that finish the nine and took a touchdown away from them and gave it to somebody, you know, three spots behind. It's a narrow fish. It's that's why in the ultimate draft kit in the way, we talk about quarterbacks. It's less about saying he's going to finish as seven or nine ten or eleven. It's more about what tier are they in? You seem to both believe he is any tier worthy of a QB one position. Yes. Yes. Okay. Stefan digs last season was the wide receiver eleven and you saw some transformation in the offense. You saw a heavy dependency on Adam feeling early in the season new quarterback. You lost an offensive coordinator during the. Season last year digs finished his finished line one or two for ten twenty one and nine hundred forty nine targets. So why'd receiver eleven last year? What are your thoughts to fund digs regrets? Impress. Yeah. Digs is a disk is very curious case because it was you know, if you look at what happened with Minnesota Vikings. They were off to a really hot start in the beginning. Fantasy wise passing wise, you know, I I believe the the first half Kirk cousins was on pace for six hundred and eighty two passing attempts. But the second half of the season it was only on a trend for five hundred thirty and really if you look at the win the odds of coordinators shift happened he was down to four hundred and thirty seven passing attempts. But what's curious about that? Is that second half that second half where it was a very slow pace, Stefan digs was the you know, he was the number one during that time right versus Adam Phelan who much more so disappeared. So it's like what what do you believe you're my biggest worry with digs? In addition. I guess one eighty one b Y. One would be is there enough volume to where he can repeat and two can stay healthy. Like, he's he's really been an injury prone guy. He has not played a full season fifteen last year. Right. That was in. That's how he finished great. But I mean if he's in thirteen next year, he's he's definitely going to regress and hurt your fantasy. He had four touchdowns inside the five yard line last year nine touchdowns a lot and he has a knack forgetting in the end zone. Fancy owners right now are drafting him behind where he finished last year. He's got an average opposition of the wide receiver fourteen. If I had to weigh in here, I would weigh in at slight regression I defined digs as far as fantasy finish on the year. But not by not by a ton. Yeah. I I think he will regress slightly. But I also think that people are. I think they're writing off Kirk cousins and that offense too soon Kirk cousins it was what he had to work with at the offense of line last year. It was rough. And you could see that Minnesota was also clearly displeased with that. They went heavy in the offense of line in the draft. Will that payoff will that actually improve things I leaned that it will and which will only improve things for the time and how much Kirk cousins actually has to carry. So I still think that's the fond digs is one of the best wide receivers in the NFL thing. Kirk cousins is a more than adequate quarterback. So I'm I'm still fine with having him up as a top fifteen guy. He I think the truth for the passing attempts is gonna lie somewhere in the middle between those because part of the the heavy transition was protecting him from offense of line woes that were causing you know, interceptions and concern Kirk cousins, I it's. It's so antithetical to invest literally hundreds of millions of dollars into the two two of the best receivers in the game the best tandem, and then all the guaranteed money and Kirk cousins, and then say were only going to be a running football team ripe. And that's where I believe it'll be somewhere in the middle made if he's getting five hundred thirty that's you would prefer to get more but five hundred thirty attempts last year, it would've put him right around the range of thirteen and twelve what if he has five hundred thirty touchdowns, though, if if he has five hundred thirty touched that be we'll be the number one quarterback. I will how. Yeah, they're just they're basically saying by Lequan like, oh, we don't need. You don't need your attempts. It's all we were two man show. Now treadwell's gone it. Who thing I the equality? What is the passing attempts might go down as a whole, but they're going to spread? Oh, oh, they're just they're just take them all away from the club. Exactly. People been wanting to do that for a while. I wasn't following right away. Like, what did I read? Well is throwing trying to make the point that he might throw five hundred thirty touchdowns. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't. I wasn't playing along with the ridiculous joke. Great joke. All right, Marlena MAC. Yes. Marlin MAC, why are you so excited last season are before teen? I'm gonna call them my mic guy, and you look at fantasy points per game Marlin MAC, I know Jason has a lot to say about him. I think a lot of it has to do with the difference MAC made to the offense and the team just we've talked a little bit about this last season hundred ninety five carries only played twelve games. Nine hundred and eight yards nine touchdowns. Marlin MAC falls into the category for me, and by the way, finishing as the Rb fourteen last year, I have regression as far as his fantasy finished. I think slight regression with so much upside that's kind of how look at him. Great upside, not sure he's going to catch enough passes to make me make him a firm Rb one. But could do it there? And that's where my concern for Marla. Mac lies is that Nahim. Highs was the absolute target master. And when you come in and you rush for over nine hundred yards in twelve games. Ran for four point seven a Kerry. Great numbers. Yes. That's my point. Is that it's too good. No. It's that if he if he over performed in that part of his game last year, and he drops to four point three carry which is still solid. He's also still an injury concern as well. What was he per carry four point seven? Okay. And I I know there's guys like Aaron Jones is hitting over five and filled. Lindsey was right around there too. But that four point seven still great for for for a running back who's going to get in the in the two hundreds when it comes to attempts. So if that efficiency comes down, I'm just concerned that he won't have the target volume to kind kinda raise him up. If he's having a bad game on the ground not enough growth. Not enough growth. I knew there was a grove and Joe coming. I knew it. So here's who raise me. So I can talk about MAC. All right. Where do you where do you have Marlin MAC Jason as far as ring number stuck in the midst of the same guys on my on my rankings, which is MAC Carson Fornet guys that I know will run the ball. Well, but might not catch don't catch enough passes to usurp players that do catch a lot of passengers or right now, I've got I've got MAC at seventeen he's he could do much better. But that's like right in the range. Well, if you had him extremely high. I was going to vary ceremoniously remove my moniker as Marla MAC being my God. Oh my gosh. He was going to give them to you. I was going to give him back back back back back back. Let me let me make the case for why Marla MAC will impress next year. All right. I I up he's just a really good running back. I mean two years ago when the whole question. Coming in was like is he a good run? Good running back. I went back and watched every single snap. And I came away saying guys like he's good. He's not just this Paul Perkins guy who's got an opportunity. He's got an opportunity and he's talking about smashed Jackson jacks for pauper. But the, you know, so I I believe is they don't come through. And he runs a four point seven clip. So like he proved. Okay. He's good. But now look at what the team to end you alluded to this a second ago. Look at what happened for the Indianapolis Colts of Frank Reich. Look at what the what happened to them. And then what they followed it up and did their first five games last year. If you remember Marla amac had a hamstring injury. He he kinda got back in week two. But he didn't play the game. Then he reactivated. He basically missed the first five games of that of the season played a big chunk in week two. They went one in four. They went one four one game. They won was when they had MAC there in week two. So when they went one in four Andrew luck was throwing the ball because they couldn't. Run it. I mean to the tune of he was on pace for seven hundred and eighty four passing attempts an thinkable pace. He's usually like six twenty once he came back once Marla MAC was back from week six on. So it's it's a long stretch eleven games was the return of the Mack. He was yes. Very nice. He the the colts went nine into. They were awesome. They got in the playoffs. They they did great things and Andrew luck was on pace during that time for only five hundred and seventy three passing attempts. That's what Frank Reich wants to do. And then after the season they had plenty of draft capital. They had they could have drafted running back. No problem, plenty of cap space. They could have signed a free agent, but they didn't Marla max guy. They win by giving him the ball. And when it comes to the targets. I agree. He has no chance to be top five because he's not going to be up in the eighty ninety one hundred targets. But during that stretch when he was back. He was still a thirty five target pace. I expect he'll be a. Forty forty two target pace that hinders him yet. But it's not Sony Michelle where it's like he could end up with single digit targets on the season. Yeah. It's just a matter of if you want him to be the workhorse, Kenny hold up. Sure over the course of a season because he's not had in NFL season where he first year ninety three attempts second season last year had a concussion last year. I had a hamstring issue shoulder issue in year one he has to hold up. I just love running backs who have awesome quarterbacks and great offenses. You know, what I mean like the you can take a mediocre guy. They mean Williams and have a really really good fantasy. So you don't like guys like Kenyan Drake for this season. Who's we can talk about him in another time. But who do you have ranked higher between Marla macadamia? Would I have Damian Williams? You do. Yeah. Because I'm fully willing to admit quarterback a great SIS running. And opportunity for running back his is valuable. I let's talk about Tyler boy Tyler Boyd last season. Would you? That's a breakout campaign seventy six receptions over thousand yards seven touchdowns on one hundred eight targets. He was a he finished his wide receiver seventeen last season. And you know, Mike, and I were talking about Tyler boy aged green around the office other day, you know, you kind of look at the draft board and the gap between where aged green and Tyler boys being drafted. And you ten I at least myself, I tend to want to just take the better value in Tyler Boyd AJ green has the foot injuries. Do I think that they're going to happen again? I don't know. But of the Boyd really impressed fantasy owners last year. And if that offensive line improves where Andy Dalton has more time to throw and they can run to set up the past either Boyd is going to be another PR type of guy, and he missed some time last year to put up that wide receiver. So sure. Yeah. Right at the end of the season. What I like so much about Tyler Boyd when we were explaining regressive impressed. It was a player thrust into a certain situation where they were able to outperform what they do on the rich. Tyler Boyd was way better. When AJ green was on the field. That's why I still have confidence that Tyler Boyd can repeat as top twenty receiver because the offense was better it Tyler Boyd is the prototypical wide receiver to who just thrives when his offense is moving. He averaged eighty receiving yards. When AJ green was in. It was down to sixty two when he had to be the guy because perhaps he just he doesn't have the skill set to be the less plays run on offense less opportunity. So I I'm very bullish on Tyler Boyd being able to repeats and end impress from his breakout season last year. And there wasn't anything unsustainable about what he did less either. He was just a very. Reliable level up type of player. Yeah. I if you look at part of why that happened like the Bengals offense during the end of the year was just putrid when they lost green. Remember, the they didn't have the last couple of games with Andy Dalton either. So I think some of those numbers are skewed that way Taliban's good wide receiver. The offense was Taylor now coming in should throw more. So the opportunity should go up. I don't think he impresses this season more than he did last season. But I think he'll be value in drafts. Because nobody's going to want the number two guy on a will. They be good team. Right. And so, you know, I what's what's neither regress nor impress. What's like right in the middle. Boring. She Tyler Tyler boring. Oh, no. Did that Indy right away? I get that one was better than mop for tune ity. Oh, I must said mop Gumri. All right. Our last regress or impress. We'll take some time to talk about them. But I will talk to him day. Sean Hamilton of the Denver Broncos joins us. You talking to me? The fantasy footballers are extremely excited to bring in wide receiver from the Denver Broncos DeJean Hamilton, Mr. Hamilton. How're you doing today? Oh, we're doing. All right. I wanna bring you back to draft day. We we love talking with athletes about it. We had your teammate we had court land on last year right after the draft. So I love hearing these guys talk about where were they who were they with when they got to experience that phone call of you made your in the NFL. So just take us back to that day. What did it look like for you? If really I was at home or we give I've seen they wanna start at Thursday. Then refer you picked up on Thursday. But I was hoping you could the late Friday or some- sometimes finding two or three. Sure. So I was at home hanging out with family hanging over my friends. And then I think if the call Thursday Friday night vows disappointed, but then hopefully still for how you picked up on Saturday, but still work that next day on obviously I was having to come off the board kinda early on Saturday. But yeah, was that home even all so some of my college friends came down to visit my my home in Virginia. And then a lot of them high school friends, they honestly in town for that. So they came over and this llama family members. And then I got the call from John Elway the Broncos and really just all my worries were finally relieved. And I was having to be drafted at that point. That's unbelievable to John Elway that's got to be. Pretty sensational moment. Hey, you've got to the Denver Broncos. They've experienced some turnover. Is there anything that stands out to you as a very different with this new offense compared to last year's? Oh, yeah. With this is really just the lot more really just kind of trying to get Chung plays. See a lot more of us really trying to move the ball down the field with play action passes. A lot more guys lobster receivers. They're involved in the rang game heavily because he got fill in the ROY streaming back. But signed the really just, you know, take ourselves when we I've seen those times are available and then at the same time again guys open in Gaza running around a lot more. I guess a freedom in the rows in a lot more plus arouse to run in this office expressing the last year to is really exciting. So I really think this is often it's gonna work really smooth before we got we got Sean this is Andy Holloway. I I have a question for you. How how much more prepared? Do you feel this year coming into the NFL game than last year? I mean, what are some of the things that you didn't know coming in and things that you feel like you're head of the game on heading into twenty nineteen. Oh, yeah. Me last year after being rookie year. I didn't know what to expect rest. Probably with a lot of rookie rookie says the the different. I obviously have behind guys like the various Thomson manufactures majorities need. And then at thanks to sake up and move to happen things. Like that obviously got more experienced on Bellevue. The hidden seed in really says this from the beginning to then you go became a lot more comfortable being out there. You know, when I was first out on the field for the rest of that. I did have been the first half of the season. I quarter of the season. Religion mean, making sure that my role and was just doing my role to the best capabilities. And and then now as as my role increase that in season as guys gets taken hurt and think got moved around to that aspect. I really just gain more confidence game word, I guess really feel for the game in the NFL. And and really just got back to what I know. And then same time just prepared at a different level. Also prepare like every week. Like everybody usually says for pay like star every week. And then when you're up soon becomes everything will come smoothly. So as really just focus on doing. I was along NFL season. So a lot of happened and visits worried about being face it. And then carried into this season. Even more confident I'm ready to really pick up on what I left off on last season. Obviously, I the record wasn't as good as anybody in Denver. We're willing to have been but me personally, I know I stepped in. And I feel like really obviously a lot about big shoes to fill but I'm ready for it. And then I'm looking forward to going into next year. Yeah. Certainly this Jason. So you prepared like you're the starter. And here's the truth when you came in we we're big fans of manual Sanders. Here. We're big fans of you in college as well win Sanders went out you really did step up and explode from week thirteen on. I'm not sure if you're aware, but you are on a sixteen game pace of one hundred and fifty two targets one hundred receptions, eight touchdowns. Seven hundred plus yards. So the real question. A lot of fantasy owners have is how is how is the health of manual Sanders coming along? What is his expectation right now for you? Have you have you had interactions with him and seeing how he's doing physically or is he off on his own right now? Yeah. You know, food the day after national means so neither. He's been around in a big leader for us in a lot of single rooms they still offense and things like that. But he's still involved and things of that sort. But yeah, you coming along great. He's done to run now. So I mean, I fully expect in to be back to top state by the time season comes back around and sticking in. But then yeah, he did a great job that helped me prepare me stay focused off seeing him into Mary's. Those guys really just always constantly in my ear. And makes it that. I obviously in the first half of the season was getting targets or anything that I received a really expect to get. But really just make sure that I'm gonna based on my role and be prepared for whenever anything does happen. Like it did at the end of the season. So yeah, I mean, and I wasn't aware of those stats or any of that type of projects the things that we're but on but. Yeah. Like how you say that? Yeah. Now. The I said I just wanted to make sure that I did get an opportunity with they've got that. I could have had a full sixteen games that type of I guess magnitude of production and things of that. So Bosley I was sitting behind Britain seem tubers that that Tom. But but yeah, they guys like I said, they really just molded means make sure our I was always prepared. It'd be being good role model a good example with and then awesome. My time came and was up to two sonnet anything's off to do. I just wanna make sure I'll stop. Well, we'll get you out of here on this station. We really appreciate your time everyone you can follow him. And I'll let me get this at skater mills underscore. On the school do underscores. What's the story behind that Twitter handle, man? Because that is that's unique. Yeah. So I was in middle school. And then my my middle school for codes that I run back in middle school, and my medical football coach his name, Billy mills when it's house and about there, and he's to like I said and they used to call him skied and mills back in the day. And then one day impacted other something good, I guess, they said you like a young skater mills and all my friends from middle school that kept calling me throughout the rest of disease in the neck as and high school evening from that. And then then I lose it. That's when I started me. That's why mean my Twitter handle was when I was freshman high school, and I just kept it and says, well, I'm I'm very glad I'm not stuck with my handles from my freshman year because they're not nearly as good as as Bill hay day. Sean, we really appreciate man wish you nothing, but the best and we're looking forward to seeing you on Sundays, man. Well, thank you for taking the time. All right. Thank you today. Sean Hamilton for joining us preciado that conversation last year Hamilton finished the season nine targets twelve targets nine targets eight targets. Jason you brought up in the interview with him. Just how impressive the end of season numbers. We only got we got a taste taste now. Mike you've been in the day. Sean Hamilton camp for a long time. Yes. Is there breakout? Potential for twenty nineteen based on the things you hearing about Emmanuel Sanders, but covering times man, what do you believe about the future of on him? It's tough because a manual Sanders. The recovery stuff is all over the place in because you have some beat reporters saying, well, he's on the side running. I've seen Sanders. Running a full speed. I see making some cuts you hear some conflicting reports about that. But he's also he's old for an NFL wide receiver in an athlete. He's old. And he tore his achilles. I mean, that's look at deonte. Foreman. Oh, you see desert Bryant posting his post achilles. Exactly. And look at foreman who was an up and coming young player for the Texans towards achilles. We have. We've not seen him do anything for years. Now he played one game got negative seven rushing yards. So I'm I'm very concerned about Emmanuel Sanders recovery, despite what the people are saying about it and Hamilton to me absolutely does have breakout potential not that he's going to break out and be a top twelve guy. Because while he was absolute target machine. It means other like a Hoover vacuum. Just all of them all of them picking them up his yards. There just is never going to blow your way because he's going to be like a sixty yard sixty to seventy yard guy. He PR the potential scoring. But he can't be an absolute steel when it comes to p PR value. If you're in a full PR because he ever eight point one yards per completion last year as low that's super super low for. Wide receiver which says he going to be Joe flacco is best friend ROY Joe flacco is going to love that. It's like all right there. You didn't go anywhere. I could get it to you. You look kind of like a tight end. So he'll and depth. He'll throw him the ball one hundred twenty five times so full like it. I like I've got this on I've got him now one hundred and twenty targets this season bad. No, that's great. I mean, that's what you want but seven hundred and forty six yards. Yeah. I think he's I think he's limited in his breakout by his quarterback play. Yeah. Need need the PPI format to make them interesting. All right. Let's jump into the melee. Mailbag? All right. If you have a question go to the website, the fantasy footballers dot com. Click the submit a question button or you can dial our voicemail hotline three zero two four six four T F F B. Let's grab a voicemail question. Hey, this is Kyle from Florida. And I was wondering which to you would keep out of these James Connor lady on bell or Travis Kelsey. Thanks, guys. Love the show. Yet a reaction there. Jason I thought we were going to get the like the James Connor Levy mbelle or an Tonio Brown. Judy. I've seen all the like pairings of which two would you keep of the of the old guard new guard in? Yeah. In pittsburgh. So that's just a straight up keep decision. You got you get to keep two of them. Do you take the number one tight end or do you take the top two running backs? I mean, I'm not even the biggest Connor fan, but I lean towards Connor bell. Yeah. I lean I've come stem stamped in give me James, Connor and Livio. When I when I look at drafting Trump's Kelsey, you know, possibly early in the second. It's really a matter of are all the players that I would draft ahead of Kelsey gone. If they are I'll take and these two players are Kelsey, well, and you know, theoretically in this keeper draft you're gonna have a first-round picking up a second round pick. What guy are you most likely to be able to draft at your position, right? Yeah. Can lean is probably Kelsey. So. Matt in Boston says, hey, ballers, here's my choice juju in the sixth or killing the twelfth juju come on juju, Stu oh. I was. I was ready to jump all over that. I thought you were giving Mike come on. No, no. That was the Matt. Okay. Gotta go with you get round for kiddle. It's awesome. That's nice now juju in the sixth round. That's unbelievable. You can spend up on kindle after that juju in the six. If you whatever you want everyone anywhere. Do you have do you rank do, you know, Mike? I know you are really high because I was worried I was like oh my gosh. Five. I don't wanna stat do. Oh, five Mike four. Yeah. You'll three can I get Brooks. Can I get it soon? Two. We got him Brooke now. Oh, how about a six then? Yeah. Six. I'm staying in order. Look, you're fired statue the stats. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be great. All right. Let's jump into another voicemail. Hey, boss is going on us as a rip from Dallas and me and the Commissioner of our dynasty leagues. And thinking about changing some of the PR scoring sentence. Wanna know what you guys think about this half p P R for running backs and wide receivers and full PR for tight ends thinking that it will give him a little bit more value as we move deeper past ace button. And when you think about that. All right, thanks. I don't know. We we may have differing opinions on end premium tight end premium. Yeah. I I don't know. I I'd probably keep it the same. That's just me. I get why you wanna do that. But it also distorts the top end of the tight end position even more. I mean, there's a handful not even a handful. There's there's the free two and a half. And those people win the league, right? I mean, that's that's I'm fine with the Tynan premium league. I don't prefer it. If I was voting. I would choose to keep them all the same. I I totally understand the desire to say. You know, look these titans stink. Let's give them a little boost. And Ray, maybe they matter more. But what Andy brought up is going to be true like Travis Kelsey Zakar. It's they're going to matter sue much, more, right? Then all the tight end four through who care specifically with Dr you're talking about giving a boost to this. This attribute that is harder to predict on non top in guys. You can kind of get lucky you can grab, you know. Cow rudolph. Oh, wow. He scores a touchdown. And now you've put up a fight against Travis Kelsey in your face off between them. But if you start going into p p r formats titans are generally that like roll the dice for the touchstone. I just think it distorts the top in tied into much. He did also. Oh mentioned that this is a dynasty league. So. If all like, let's say Jason the Commissioner of our dynasty league. Jason happens to have Travis Kelsey on his team. If he comes AMI with guys, we're we're thinking about changes some scoring. We're going to increase the value of Travis Kelsey. I'm not really going to be tied in not going to be on board with five points perception chiefs, titans only, I missed it. It was dynasty. It's I think are heard that if it's done it's started. That's fine. But you can't change your scoring setting on a dynasty league. Everyone has drafted. They're thirty plus players, right. We'll 'cause out on this on Aaron Jones kerryon Johnson question from Adam in red lake Canada. All. Sure what Michael Keaton? All right. Assuming the cost is the same in a redraft PR redraft. Do you prefer Aaron Jones or carry on John money nineteen mine? Mine is carry on Johnson. Obviously on the carrying Johnson through the reminded by a mile mine is so not even close because I think both of these guys have the upside to be an Rb one. I think one has so much risk. Like, I know who the guy is for Detroit. Yeah. I don't you just say how much you love running backs on great offenses quarterbacks. Yup. With great quarterback Aaron Jones fits those that mold very very well. And if Aaron Jones is that then I'll be super happy. I got I have Jones sixteen I've carry on it eighteen I would go with Aaron till my ranking slightly have kerryon Johnson, and I have carrying on at thirteen Aaron Jones as thirteen. Yeah. I want to say what I've got your Jones. Twenty five. Yeah. Well, okay. I've got I've got them in in our BBC. I think they're going to split carries. As aggravating on guy. Five point five carry the other guy like to carry truly. I I don't I don't I with that. Be shocked metaphors that dumb look at last season. Figured it out. He's also not the only one responsible drew last year in Tennessee. All right. Pristine deal of the day. Brooks. This is a smoking deal. How did you even find this deal? This is an illegal deal thought. That was pretty cool. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Adam feeling signed in zone pylon. Oh, that's cool. That's really cool. I wanna pylon. Why don't we have pylon Brooks? I would wear it is a hat because this person did don't do it. Don't wear them as hats, Mike. I put it in front of your face on the look at sixty eight dollars and eighty cents Adam feeling sign endzone pylon. Pristine auction dot com. Check it out by the way, do not make. It's ironic. Do not miss the Thursday. Are we still doing this? Or are you guys still on board? We do you know what the theme is supposed to be on on Thursday. Jason. Oh, gross supposed to be doing ice and fire. Jason. Yeah. We will. All right. 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My name is Danny Hyphen today Kelly how're you doing I'm doing excellent man how are you doing it's like I'm just kind of comes back a little like three cs I kinda gotta Eh I can't control you know anyway we're going to run I kick get rid of it now it's like we're going to I decay I just went home scrape wedding by the way but this against the chiefs in Kansas City Ninety five hundred's obviously he's on the more expensive side is year twenty nine th against opposing running backs last three teams that beat the chiefs in Indiana you've talked yeah if Mahomes is even going to be playing in this game but we saw last week Matt Moore can fill in I think a lot this week just running through the last three teams that have beaten the chiefs Carlos Hyde twenty-six Russia's one hundred sixteen years a touchdown Duke Johnson attitude catches and lying on Cook Cook a lot in this game so I think it'd be worth the money yeah Aaron I don't think the Dalvand I mean Carlos Hyde and then Marla Mac the week before I mean that will cook is better than I mean I don't WanNa Seventy Times in this game and not a kirk cousins past it's in it's in his DNA you're defense flowing in one direction then going the other direction they're very good on screen passes defensive tackles not healthy that lost Alex before and the packers game her cousins I know I just didn't respond to go that they don't WanNa pass but guess what they never wanna I saw back to back weeks each thirty nine minutes or so of possession this is as good as Patrick Mahomes I would never say that I sure hope not I am saying that kirk cousins see staps completion percentage above expectations kirk cousins is either number one or number Wilson's three Aaron Rodgers is for completion percentage above expectation which actually factors in how who starts these playing really well for the last month we were wondering whether this would be real or not he is aww cooked so the most basically Stefan digs and Adam and there we got love some kirk cousins I just wrote a couple of weeks ago I think two weeks ago I wrote he's really balled out in our against were against bad teams like the giants throwing absolute dimes into tight coverage into double coverage putting it good job figuring out what he's comfortable doing and then doing it a lot so yeah I think I think the oh I haven't checked it so he went halloween will are those like he has to wear the Jersey or no one who is I just thought that was hilarious in Nineteen Nineteen Taller total k thirteen I don't know all right too rich for my blood D- K. who is a player who's priced injured this week which is on the more side and it's going up against the he's six expensive the bucks have legitimate defend run defenses in the NFL their twenty ninth in points allowed so I think Carson still brings a little bit of upside as a pass that there's going to be better options for that price this week with the especially ah the seahawks necessarily do the logical thing but it would make a lot more sense for the seahawks just to pass against them now. It's actually been improved with Jason Pierre Paul's back so I'm at this week I'm sorry I'm just looking at pictures of Kirk cousins in a buzz light your costume right now see the infinity nor beyond he looks so happy so I'm happy for mb yeah that into an NFL quarterback what we still going while I was like Ah Okay we thank you for getting he is top seven wide receivers I just think this is a wait and see week for for Devante he's a little wow shops to the capitol and that's winning the world series wants to change your life and now he's not doing it Ted talk or writing self-help book taxes and shipping included in one hundred thousand dollars to put toward a house go to Omai's dot com slash NFL show and enter now that is O. L. Show one fifty and you'll score one hundred and fifty free entries aspire children through sport wow I didn't really justin Jay once again of Justice Jay love goldilocks this is middle range sweet spot not too high not too forty eight hundred which just feels like the right spot for me he seeing really good target numbers or last floor just as a PR receiver but I also I like is upside his ceiling no that's nothing my goal last week the whole New York jets I'm just I'm just wrong with the whole or last or second last in every major defensive category they sam darnold fifty nine hundred dollars Robbie Andersen fifty five hundred ever Simeon or whatever he was playing this you only look at the games that slamming well you know reliable it's hard to come by also in the Games just as Sam darnold top ten and right because the jets have been so bad it's a great matchup an excellent matchup dame did you just go to could holy shit I I've just become a W. Fan caller cheese US Jacobs on the raiders he is sixty five hundred bucks he's playing the lions I really like Josh in the NFL this year in Minneapolis Force behind my Guy Chris Carson or did not know that yards combined Alvin Cook in week seven hundred and forty two yards and two touchdowns and then last week he doesn't at Home Oakland and they don't play in the dirt anymore they are done the grass little guessing game for you guys blind resin let's do it for Matthew Berry player contact player be sixty five point eight percent of teams carries sixty you're propaganda just said that instead of anyway Larry Josh edge of team rushing yards I don't know how I don't know how informative that is predicted away this season even though they could still make the plan for the win this week but Josh Jacobs getting really perfect with what was going to say so contrary play the weak decay you want to get into this I snuck a little he said bad things about him right going going up against he's actually playing pretty well under Gruden I saw this from established runs adamant level time the raiders because they're running basically they're passing offense through a couple of tight ends and good they've been the season the lions meanwhile thirtieth against opposing quarterback says this waller is leading them and target share and he's just been there defacto number one receiver especially because Tara influ overcome some substance issues and stuff but this is his first season like really playing and but you like carver's lines this week yeah I mean I think you know if you're looking for do I think this is rather contrarian I'm going with Melvin Gordon whoever co everybody live from the holdout maybe because he asked for more touches like ahead of the game there don't fumble anyway sorry I cut you off fumble is always the answer but anyway Station anybody know jared Lee on that island I wanted to ask you guys a question about a new passing scheme that are running scheme right off the bat that they're suddenly not going to get more creative from passing range a lot because like installing an entire new offense takes weeks oh just play sequencing and all that that's really the thing that they're going to be looking for going forward I think is is the moment look when they change their offense overnight it's so rare second least to running the most and being the least efficient running team like among the top two teams change outfits quarters during the season of pretty good bit and most of the time it's about tendencies it's why did the person get fired I think that's the good thing to look at select last year Mike are they do they want to be more aggressive more conservative that's the first question I would ask so century eighty-five teams had four consecutive games where they had under the charges are currently a streak of under forty Russia yards four games at row same offencive line why is he not going Essentially Russ Russell Kun was out with put an IRA neck injury so they don't so you're pence pounds he's out or league bottom three easily and honestly the other L. 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Falcons vs. Colts: Week 2 Post game analysis

The Falcoholic

32:01 min | 1 year ago

Falcons vs. Colts: Week 2 Post game analysis

"Guys Walk into the Alcohol Post Game podcast with two thousand nine hundred season we three the Atlanta Falcons on the road. Taking on the Indianapolis Colts joining me as always is my fellow alchoholic writer Evan Burchfield Evan. How're you doing? It's not well he w yet so for those who didn't hear the Falcons lost a close one which at times didn't feel like it was going to be close at all they lost twenty seven twenty four on the road they are now one in ten in their last eleven games against AFC teams one eleven eleven. If you include the Super Bowl which certainly counts we won't talk about that. this was a frustrating game a tale of two halves and a game with potentially some serious long-term ramifications for Falcon so let's jump right into it and we're. GonNa talk about those injuries because these are looming coming over this team early again in the season. This feels eerily like a two thousand eighteen season. Seles just get to some of the names obviously the one at the top of the list the one that probably has fans the most concern is gonna be Keanu Neil he went down believe in the second quarter and amazingly the refs are heartless in that suffered the injury through his helmet off and then subsequently got the penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct for taking his helmet off on the field when it was clear that he was seriously injured which was frustrating. I know it pissed me off pissed off a a lot of people were watching. I understand rules are rules but breaths. That is just garbage. You guys can go to hell for that Neil. It looks like may have suffered offered an Achilles injury I think some people were initially speculating. ACL again since that was the injury from last year but it does look like it's an Achilles injury. We don't know the the extent yet but he was carted off and he was seen crying on the field which was devastating. Evan was your thought you saw him clutching at his leg yeah it was you know heart wrenching like you you. When you see somebody that tough crying you know it's just like in any care about your players and stuff like that and it just was it's emotional in any think of we finally get him back in game three. He's got probably a serious injury at first it seemed like you know the fear or was it was acl but apparently it was his Achilles as you mentioned but I believe it's on the same I'm not a doctor so I don't know how that even if that is even relevant just I believe it's on the same you know so that that's really a lot of stress on that leg of his it just it sucks. I'll know there ain't really a way to sugar coat. It just today soft in the injury sucked in yeah. Yeah I mean there was another devastating site for Falcons fans. You know one of our young bright right stars one of the guys that Dan Quinn drafted to rebuild this defense down for what potentially could be yet again a season ending injury injury and of course some fans have already started to ask well. You know a keep him after next year and I think that's going to be a big question. Mark Mark you know he's got one more year with the Falcons because MS fifth year option than twenty twenty and I hate it. I hate it. That's even the conversation to have at this point but yeah. It's Keanu get better. there were other injuries. We don't know the severity of those Grady Jarrett left late in the game with a toe injury. Sorry he did not return type. McKinley had a knee injury and did not return. I will say it looked like he was trying to work. The knee out on the sidelines what we were seeing in that is potentially encouraging. That may not be a long-term injury so we'll definitely have to keep an eye on that. Jim Brown did X. At the game at one point I think he came back in. I'm not positive either. Smith got taken out of the game with concussion and so they can on Barner so the Falcons suffered a an big slate of injuries this week and it is a pretty a pretty rough ebbing forum for them to lose this guy and then to lose that game so what do you make of these injuries Do you think there's any of these that you're overly concerned about outside of obviously the key on the Neil injury you think any of these look like they're going to be long term thinks you know I mean I didn't you know but the thing with injuries theresa that is it's in the NFL. It's tough because it's like you'll think it's nothing in menu wake up on Monday or Tuesday morning and they're like they're out for for the year like fluky you know in the Nicole also had their share of injuries with obviously dearest Leonard. They're probably best defensive. The player didn't play a T. Whitehill in left in I believe the third quarter with a quad injury yeah I feel like they lost somebody else but not remember off the top of my head but you know it's just it happens. You know injuries happen in for some reason with us. They happen all at once in it. It's it's unfortunate but you know that's that's part of being a brotherhood in stuff like the rest of the guys have to step up in. I mean we lost by three so it wasn't like we got destroyed but I I felt pretty confident that this is a game. We should have one to begin with. I don't WanNA bounce around but yeah. Just you know it's it is and I think we're going to talk about that here quickly. It's in the first half. The Falcons. Were just this completely outplayed by the time they went into the locker room at Halftime it was a twenty three game. Matt Ryan was completely ineffective. He you know he had another head-scratching interception on again a downfield pass to luke stocker which sure I'll go ahead and say it dirk cutter. If you're calling downfield passes to luke stocker you deserve to be fired that is incompetence you when you have. Julio Jones Calvin Ridley Muhammed snnu Austin Hooper Devante Freeman and you're calling downfield passes to your blocking tight hi in you're in the competent offensive coordinator and you deserve to lose your job. It is mind boggling we we saw in the first. I have more targets for Luke stocker than we did for Calvin Ridley that is that is a level of incompetence that should be pointed out in screamed about out until the Falcons Brass flowery branch make a decision on whether they want this team to have a good offense or whether they wanNA feature Luke fricking stalker every week. I'm fed up with it. It's disgusting stupid now. That does not excuse Matt Ryan throwing that ball it was a terrible all decision by our QB. He has six sections on the season but we'll talk about his second half a little bit later but I did want to get that off my chest dirk cutter. This offensive talent deserves better than the play calling you put on the field in the first half today what you put on the first half should get a man fired it was that stupid that offensive and I am beyond the Pale with your insistence that you're going to be created by throwing the people that don't deserve observe the Damn Ball Evan your thoughts yeah I was about to go in on stocker. Some glad you did too the gravely and you made a good point. in the first half stocker head more targets in Ridley in the overall game stalker had four targets. It's really only one any caught it for six yards. That's it's incompetence. It's it's just ignoring your playmakers like it doesn't make any sense actually went to stalker before one of the Hooper touchdowns because he scored twice they went to stalker in it you know towards the ends. I don't get this love fest. I don't like I want. I want to understand why Luke stalkers so involved. You WanNA use them as a blocker fine but why why is he one of your receiving options like I understand if he's like seventh receiving option or something but I like if you want to look at this game four targets for Luke Stocker one target Hodel for Ridley. That's all you really need to know exactly because it's it's stupidity not like I'm on one of the last people who wants to jump on the whole like let's get rid a Dan Quinn thing but there's no you have to now like you have no choice. We've we've literally knockabout surround. We literally had sixteen penalties to their one. Four hundred twenty yards move because because of penalties like it's just like it's frustrating undisciplined your your your guys out there playing. Dan You know and right now. We're recording this literally minutes after the game ended in right now. Dan Quits probably at his presser saying you know the typical B. S. lines about We're GONNA improve this. You know all you know penalties Blah Blah Blah given you know given what he thinks. People want to hear. Nobody wants to hear it. I really hope in. This is like going out there. I really aside from you know cheering for the braves. I really hope they win because I want. I Want Arthur blank and I know he's already got that kind of firing hiring him. I want him to have that fire of okay. I'm tired of the Falcons being like a joke because if if the Atlanta united you know they win another championship they already want one last year the braves when a championship it's GonNa make the Falcons look really bad. They're all of a sudden the like third or fourth worst team. I'm in the city when they used to be running the city even though they weren't successful but it's like it's a joke at this point in. I hate that we're wasting you. You Know Julio Jones were Wasting Matt Ryan. I mean even in that stupid ass decision. He had he finished his stats twenty nine of thirty four three hundred and four yards three touchdowns at interception hundred and twenty one point one rating like that's a solid day on paper but we're we're wasting talent I'm just I'm Kinda like over this came. It's sickening 'cause stupid. That's all it is stupid. It's like when let me loss to the dolphins in previous years when we needed a win they do this shit in. It's like later on in the season. This'll like okay if find the Falcons and I like to believe I do. They're going to all of a sudden about you're gonNA finish the bye week strong. They're going to start contending in. It's like Oh we're gonNA miss the playoffs by Gamer number two because of losses like this. It's just stupid yeah yeah and I I think I said this on twitter and with a reiterated read it here if you guys are of the mindset that Dan Quinn needs to go. I think you can point to this game. As positive highlighted perfectly the endless number of penalties. I believe there were sixteen penalties on the day for the Falcons me me Yeah Sixteen for one hundred twenty yards according to whatever the stats things sixteen penalties including it felt felt like a dozen on the last offensive drive for the Falcons which amazingly they were able to overcome instill get a touchdown. I'm out of but that is a lack of discipline which falls on the head coach and then we saw a defense that yes I know you lost kill. Neil and you lost Grady Jarrett on the final drive intact McKinley but that got carved up in the first half got carved up by Jacoby be percents and you know I'm not saying he's about quarterback but he looked like an all pro quarterback against Falcons defense and if you're GONNA fire if you're gonNA look at the the two main reasons behind those massive massive issues in this game they're both Dan Quinn lack of discipline the the the overarching theme of the season the massive number of penalties and in the defense that again just failed when we need them to to succeed they had some good moments in the second half you know they were finally beginning to pressure in the second half so I don't WanNa completely dismiss everything everything they did but it wasn't enough and I think that's the thing that you know if you're a falcons fan that you're fed up and you're upset and you want to see Dan Queen Go. I can't blame you after that game. It was disheartening Mel. I'm GonNa throw the normal caveat. Here is very early. In the season. The Falcons are one run into in the division with no clear leaders but if they continue to play like this. It's God knows what kind kind of record we're going to look at at the end of this year now. The first half was a disaster. The second half by comparison was the exact opposite it was what we expected to see out of this. Falcons Team Matt Ryan turned it around substantially intially and he ended up completing the day twenty nine of thirty four three hundred four yards three touchdowns in one interception so he essentially had only five incompletions in several of those were in the first half at one point he had sixteen straight completions all three it was touchdowns came in the second half and it was it was encouraging to see that. Ryan finally showed us a bit of what we knew. He was capable of it. Just wasn't enough in the same game So Evan Matt Ryan whether you make of the struggle the he had in the first half and really sort of the night and day difference between his first half in the second half yeah you know you'd like to see him battle back act because the team really needed a as you mentioned earlier while you were talking about how the defense led us down that it I mean because they did like we had an opportunity to come back. The team was coming back in the defense for whatever reason just could not stop Marla macro the rest of the colts the third down play which pretty much ended it was a fake Ryan in Doyle of Jack Doyle tied for the colts. I got the first down that pretty much ended the game there it's just it sucks because it's like we you know and I said it said it you know after the a game last week it's like. I felt like everything worked tonight game. It's like we the Falcons gave us a false sense of emph- confidence in our defense and it's it's true it was false because the team sucked like the defense was bad. Even before Kiana Neal went out. We can't blame injuries here. They look bad. the colts came out ready to punch us in mouth in they did me and you discussed last last week about Jacoby said in how you pretty much win if you can stop him and we couldn't stop him we just could not uh-huh Kudos to him because this man didn't even this man thought he was riding the bench up until like a week or two before the regular dealer season started like if playing we would have been probably losing by twenty or more but that's nothing to take away from Jacoby per. Se played fantastic again there for a while. I think it was like ten for ten like it's it's just. I don't want to go away from Your Matt Ryan question but it just feels like everything like Matt Matt Ryan Spine. I'm not worried about him. He had that stupid decision because it was a stupid decision. I don't WanNa say here in sugar coat things anymore. as you mentioned throwing it to Luke Stocker I mentioned in our chat loose soccer climbing a ladder couldn't have caught that ball like it was way overthrown I don't. I don't know what he was doing because it wasn't like if you're gonNA throw to Luke Stocker make sure the man's wide open and even then I don't. I don't like it but at least till he's wide open. Why are we forcing it to Luke. Stalker Dem Issue Stupidity Aside from that play. I have no problems with Marins Day yeah I I. I think he did enough for them to win. and I you know the the interception stands out because it was to six on the season was is in the red zone but it did that second half with the three touchdowns should have been enough to to bring home the victory but it the between the penalties that extended some colts offensive drives in the second half that we had on defense and some missed tackles mix sacks. you know that was where. I think if Ryan was given one more drive I feel like the Falcons had the chance to win it in the NFL like they will yeah with his playing taken half. I agree with that all right so I was just gonNA say. Can we focus on one positive thing devante Freeman Freeman look so real quick to close out the discussion on the offense and before we go and talk about the defense which may be painful as I mentioned Ryan Twenty nine thirty four thirty four yards three touchdowns one interception as you mentioned devante Freeman he had sixteen carries carries for eighty eight yards which was a five point five average. He looked much much better in the AD through the first two games. So that was encouraging the C- obviously either Smith went out in was mostly ineffective. He went on early so Julio Jones Eight receptions one hundred twenty eight yards and the touchdown Muhammed Snooze six six receptions for seventy five yards and Austin Hooper had a big day six six receptions sixty six yards and two receiving touchdowns so great day from Hooper. You're on the offense and that's basically how things played out for the Falcons offense so before we talk about the Falcons defense how that worked out. We're GONNA take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm John Genero executive. Producer of the dirty south soccer podcast football is serious business in the south the four seasons there are football spring football recruiting and signing day. I want to tell you about a podcast and Georgia that goes deep into the sport at the high school level join host John Nelson and Tommy Palmer for the football Friday's ladies and Georgia podcast from Georgia public broadcasting subscribe for free on Apple podcast or in your favorite podcast APP to get new episodes as they're released uh hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the hosts of the shutdown. Forecast Avengers of college football podcast says the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is. It's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants as we warned middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP and we're back on the alcohol post game podcast this is David Walker joined by my co host Edinburgh field and we're talking about the falcons lost to the Annapolis Colts in week three twenty seven twenty four on the road We've already talked about the offense we talked about. Matt Ryan struggles in the first half and his great performance in the second I can have. Let's talk about the defense because that is another area where again I feel like there were some good signs but it was there is just a lot of terrible terrible terrible discipline problems. We did see they were completely incapable of generating pressure against Jacoby in the first half that changed a little bit in the second half. They were mostly good at stopping runs up the middle and yet again. Dan MARLA MAC was feasting on the runs outside the edges so Evan. What's your take on that Falcons defense. I didn't force a punt until the third quarter. Yeah not good they just they couldn't stop the run as you mentioned and even when they did it was still going for like four or five yards. It felt like my dad was a successful. Stop it felt like is MARLA MAC act falling forward for five yards just the whole defense. It's like the offense you know as you mentioned seemed like they got it together. In the the second half for at least they kind of got it together the defense just the whole game didn't seem like they knew what they were doing. just just look poor at best. It's it's just it's sad because it's like the these are the you know it's like every year. We feel this feeling like okay. The Falcons defense is going to to be better than they have. Those games like last week as I mentioned where you feel like they are better and then they just fall apart you you know in in so many the penalties go on both sides of all but so many penalties that were just gone headed the like that kept drives drives going up for the colts you know like the one. I can think of like the Ricardo Allen one where he he was like helmet-to-helmet probably almost got tossed out of the game right you know and then I think of like the play where Naim Hinds are one of the running backs for the colts. He's like more. They're receiving back. was going for a first down. Basically put a nice to on folio. Lucon in you know picked up the first down. I think that was like shortly really like that was like a couple of plays right before Kiana Neal went down. I don't know it's just there's not a whole lot of like I'm trying to think of something positive ositive to say about the defense and I really don't have anything yes. It's on the day tack and Vic Split. A sack in that also happened to be the play. A believe attack got injured on. There are a few guys that you know had some decent place here and there but I'm sort of over talking about this defense from the standpoint of Oh this guy had you know two or three good plays is this guy had one or two plays. we saw several lapses and coverage we saw lapses and coverage not only from a guy like guys oliver who you sort of expect it from because he's younger player. He's a first time starter this year but we saw it from guys like Ricardo Allen and we saw the last week from John. Neil and again that points to coaching. Why are you guys Allah position. Why are they blowing coverages that if you're if you're going to hang your hat Dan Quinn as being a defensive coordinator being defensive mastermind that means you have to have of these guys prepared coming into the game. It means that you know silly college level blown coverages. Don't happen on your watch and it's happening happening. It's happening repeatedly. It happened in the first game. It happened in the second game. It happened again in this game and it is to the point where for you you deserve all the criticism that is coming your way and here's the thing. I want fans to be clear about this. I really really like Dan Quinn. I think he's you know a lot of guys complained about his raw raw attitude but that is genuinely who he is. He is a positive this guy his someone that people love to be around he is genuinely just a good decent human being a he is hard not to like when you meet in person and he is someone who I think has done a lot of things the right way since he's come to the Falcons a believe that he has drastically improved the vision for the team as far as how they want to draft players he has set a vision for the team that the it prioritizes the athleticism that has netted us some really good late round draft picks in under his watch but if we're talking about the discipline issues and we're talking about the defensive struggle so far this year and we're talking about just poor execution to start a game that falls on his shoulders and as the head coach you you you've had you know two different defensive coordinators that you've let go and that you essentially passed the buck onto them for what was happening on defense and you've got no excuses. Now you know this defense is yours. You wanted it that way and you're going to bear the burden of that responsibility like I said you know for for fans who are down on on D Q for His coaching I ah this is coming again from a guy who genuinely likes and respects Dan Quinn and what he's done for this franchise over for the past couple of years as far as setting vision in the drafting all of that a really do generally like him but I'm at my wit's end with this defense not executing way that he said that what Evan anything you want to add to that or any other thoughts we did finally see Matt Bryant. Get some get some time in field but anything you want to add their any final thoughts on the defense or anything at all I mean. Can you pretty much summed it up. I think the biggest takeaways from this game you know are those sixteen penalties because when you look at the team stats it wasn't like if you just looked at the team stats not the score like a third downs. We were eight for ten colts. Were five for eight total net yards. We were there's three ninety seven. There were three seventy nine they had you know eight. More offensive plays in us. are rushing net was ninety three seventy nine nine passing. NAB was three or four with three hundred We had a turnover they didn't. We both scored three touchdowns. They had one more field goal It's just you get to penalties and we've got sixteen for one hundred twenty yards. They have four for thirty nine like that pretty much. That's where it ends right there here. Even though a couple of were stupid it seemed like the refs were very biased. against the Falcons play into the home crowd but even even then you WanNa take away like four of them that still bad it's just. I it's not a good look you're going to always you know almost ten times out of ten times lose a game. If that's your penalty ratio sixteen to four you know aside from that you know back to the Stalker Stalker Ridley thing like Calvin Ridley as we saw last week on Sunday night. Football should not have one target for for one target for six yards yards like you just don't do. I mean Kenyon Barner had one target that make sense Calvin Ridley's your second best receiving option in. He's got one target target when you're losing a game like in your trying to throw the ball. You're going to lose that game. I don't even need to see the score. I can tell you that 'cause unless unless Julio goes three hundred yards. That's the only way you're winning. It's just stupid. It's it's frustrating because it's like you know I. I don't WanNa take anything anything away from the colts but it feels like they were given one because of our stupidity you know between penalties in how we're using our offensive weapons of. I didn't want you mentioned that vomit on twitter mentioned that Kion O.`Neil left the stadium on crutches with a with his left foot in a boot not a good sign. Obviously probably in Achilles tear so prepare yourselves for bad news tomorrow but yeah I mean I don't know what to say. d-w. It's just Kinda like. It's only week three like I really feel like garbage. I you know I think it's important to emphasize that because we could be ten weeks from now and laughing about how bad things fell after this game and I sincerely hope that's the case. I hope you know ten games from now looking back and saying wow sal you know thank God. They turned around but this right now it's. It's the the sloppy play. It's the penalties. It just looks like poor. Coaching that is setting this falcons team up for a long season. they've got a lot to fix. They've got Uh uh the titans coming in this week into Atlanta I believe and yeah. It's you know they. They've got a lot of work to do. It's still a long season. Let's hope it's not long season but they you know they certainly have the talent to turn this around with C. A. Fa coaching can can finally catch up with so for those of you who you listen to our podcast every week. Thank you guys for listening in. I know this is rough. Stick stick with us. We're GONNA. We're in this together to have a drink. I we've got another week until the Falcons. Go back in again because it feels like a very Atlanta thing to do so with that said we're going to close this one out this week. Thanks skies for Evan Burchfield. Stay Walker. Thank you guys for being a part of this podcast with us. We'll talk the yeah.

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First MOCK DRAFT of 2020 + The Infinite One

The Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast

1:04:33 hr | 1 year ago

First MOCK DRAFT of 2020 + The Infinite One

"It was up. This is just a seal from the Baltimore Ravens. And you're listening to the fantasy football podcast to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host. Andy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Reid. Command. I thought we might get an. It's mock draft time Mike. I'm really disappointed in weight. Not was I was. I did it in my head in my head. Mock draft time and Mike. Just sit in there. Let's all down and he's shaking his head to like. We were wrong to even assume that he might do that. You're wrong I don't do. It came wrong about assuming that you're shaking your head that were wrong so you think we were correct. Yes we have. No Bananas got it. Thursday may seventh any Mike and Jason. The fantasy football is back with you. Judge Diamanti is with us as well. We're draft time and time what Mike doesn't come. I mock draft of the year on. Today's show live. Whatever happens. Happens guys do? That's what they say. We'll find out whether we agree with one another or end up having to rotate picks because we can't decide but it's going to be a lot of fun. Follow us. If we can't decide we may have to rotate expe- yes. We've been so agreeable. If off in all the mocks we've done in the past. Yeah get voice is more of a bribery situation like this. Pick if you give me the next two pigs. Yeah we do that. We might agree. It'll be fun. It'll be an experiment. That's what mock draft is about. The best part is when you do it. This early get see the movement you get see okay. This is how this was in. May but what's really changing whose rising who's falling so it's a good good practice. Good practice to to be in. And we're all three of us are right in the middle of our player by player statistical projections for the two thousand twenty season at various points in that process. And so it'll be interesting because we've wrapped our heads around several of the these teams so far here we are in May and We to put it into practice like Jason said every year people ask you know what's the purpose of that mock draft? A lot of it is to get a sense of the draft board in how it's moving month month and is really fun that too there is that as a big benefit. Yeah yeah this'll be. I know our economic. It's a brain exercise. It's fun to do it and go look at your team ago. Yeah imagine imagine if I had that team. That's the only thing I know before. The draft is how incredible our team will be. It's one of those things. Where in May? I'm sure we can get some real good value on the rookies. Let's be sure to check us out on Youtube. Youtube dot com slash. The fantasy footballers instagram dot com slash. Fantasy footballers twitter at the F. ballers and I was just looking on the website in the articles. They be flowing. There are a lot of great articles over on the website from our writing staff. The fantasy football is dot com. There's an auction trends article up there right now for you oxen players out there that are always knocking down our door for more auction content while there it is avail yourself of it. We have the NFL ready to release the regular season schedule with Asterix's on the end of it Tonight eight PM Eastern. But that's exciting right. That's super exciting. I can't wait to see the schedule. We know WHO's plan? Who but what? The order of the Games are being able to plug that in get Kinda. Some strength of schedule plugged into our our rankings and dull draft gets I will be eagerly awaiting the reveal. This this is when you go through and you you confidently predict. They will your team. We're going ten and six no works out to this seven and nine and you get the primetime action and you get to know you get to earmark things. Okay Week Nine. This primetime matchup is GonNa be off the chain. This is when all the Denver Bronco fans that have been messaging me figure out their path to twelve and four US last year. When I don't expect the cardinals they have any primetime games and they did not go. That's that's what the NFL team. Yeah Okay let's do some buy sell before the mock draft buy or sell presented by Pristine auction all right. This buy-sell is eternal immortal. Yes it is everything. I couple. Bits of news one of them was that Frank Gore has signed a contract to play professional football for another season at least reuniting without Adam gays in New York for the jets. One year contract. So we're we're GONNA play some buy sell with Frank Gore's age basically is excellent as you know if you listen to the show we refer to freight Gore's the infinity stone and as was pointed out by kind listener of the show the Lumber Zach. He broke it all down for US. Because okay break it down for me. Because he's collecting the stones. Let's exactly what Frank Gore is doing. He got the Goldstone from the forty niners started his career. There blue from the colts got. What's the space then? He got the soul stone. The orange stone from the dolphins from the bills got the redstone. You got the greenstone now. From the jets freight gorgeous needs the PERP power stone and he will have completed the gauntlet. We got going away. What are YOU GOING TO BE MINNESOTA? Mayor? We gotta get into Minnesota or the Ravens. Next year well I or not because then he will snap us out of existence. He could do that. He could do that or he could snap this. Whole Corona virus thing out of existence. For Oh hey. Let's get him to the Vikings so Brooks you set up a buy sell for us and this is all based on when Frank Gore entered the NFL. So right and you've picked what five items out or something to that nature. You explain this to me. You got it. Okay thank you. You sounded perfectly okay by self wrangler entering the NFL. Before the iphone buyer sell frank Entered before the IPHONE. I'm buying. That's an easy by for me. I mean iphone feels like it's been out forever but it's crazy to go back and look. He might beat the landline out. I'm not even sure but I'M GONNA GO. I'm GONNA go by. Are we all by? Yeah we're buying the I mean iphones at what third thirteen I? I'm actually not sure. When Frank entered the league was at least fifty years ago. So we're we right brooks. You're all right okay. All WanNa know see stopped Brooks. What is happening today? We should go through them. Because if I give you might gain too much info on the future ones. Oh wanting to her. We caught you off guard so you only spoke half a sentence guy you were. That's exactly what I all right. Frank Gore entered the NFL before Tesla was founded. Ooh ooh Oh man. Before Tesla was founded I guy that yeah sh? Tesla's too was that I I was at roadster. I don't even know if he's younger than Elon. Musk and I'm going to buy it. I'M GONNA BUY IT. Y'All by that as well. Okay bye before facebook Ooh Back when it was V. Facebook Vallon. I'm going to sell. I'm going to buy it so we've got our first difference here. I'm going to buy facebook. I'm selling that one as well. The old the old college days. What do you mean as well? Did you sell the one before it? I've selling with Jason Okay Before the Nintendo. We know I'm selling crap. Where was I when I got my Nintendo? We was Frank Gore. Is that how you you can associate like where you find as consistent? I remember the house. I remember the the room where I hang up. I am going to sell. I'm going to sell frank or was in the league before the week came out. I'm going to buy. I don't know whether facebook or the week of earlier but I'm starting to feel trapped for the we were supposed to have bought everything everything. And then. Lastly are we buying or selling Frank Gore enter the NFL before Sam darnold tenth? Birthday is quarterback his own quarterback now. Oh that's delight Dow by that. I'll buy that because you don't put it in there as the cell. Come on. Yeah I'm GONNA buy the. There's been some funny stuff about that. With Adrian Peterson as well. Yeah his teammates being eight when he got drafted incomplete sentences. Tell us the truth here Brooks. Yeah I can do that. I think can handle that all right. Let's hear you were frank or entered the NFL and two thousand five all right all right. So the IPHONE. You guys all chose by. That was correct to came out in two thousand seven. Okay all right all right. Frank Gore entered the NFL before Tesla was founded. That is a cell really. Yes two thousand three. Wow so let's take a little time to get going making car companies not easy. I'm told okay. What about the FACEBOOK also sell? That has four right and then the Nintendo we. That's a by. That's six ice. Some of that was released. Dang it and then Sam darnold tenth birthday. I'm guessing that's a by SAM. Darnold was eight years old. Frank Gore entered the NFL unworthy record. I WanNa know at that point. We didn't even know all right. So you one Jason. You know that I want the full Clintono so the summary here is that by herself. Rank Gore has played a while he. He's old I don't think he's going to do much here for the jets. All right that was by herself brought to you by Pristine auction our good friends over pristine auction. Check amount use the code ballers get a ten dollar credit towards a sports memorabilia purchase. That'S PRISTINE AUCTION DETROIT COM without further ADO. It's time let's mock draft. The fantasy footballers mock draft. Also you threw in a little extra on net drop You just didn't open the show with your heart man to predict my heart man. I'm like a wild stallion. You CAN'T BLAME HIM. I I cannot be broken. My heart will endure. My spirit will always be free. How do you use a so? Let me ask you this before. We jump into the mock draft. You are known as a contrarian in in life you tend to go the you know. Everyone's walking over there. Let's walk over here. I accept your labeling he even the labeling you're like might come up with a different name for contrarian in order to divide you I've been known to look at the the other path and say well look what's over there but what I'm saying is if people you know they also like your You know your lyrics for the intro to the shows off the ground swell of the foot clan begins to tell you to do something then I will give the people what they. I starring Australia but I am also a man of the people of the people for this show. Before you're verified. I remember that. Yeah that was. That was a long time. Great time a great Jason My life. Oh great so you get verified all right twelve team half point per reception. Mock draft one quarterback two running back to wide receiver one tied in one flex. And we're going to go. What five been spots and a defense and we randomized a spot in the draft just before we started recording ended up at number five Mike. I don't even know if you know that number five got so we're kicking this things This thing off and the first first four picks Christian McCaffrey saquon. Barkley Ezekiel Elliott and Michael. Okay all right. That will be interesting to see. How high up does Michael Thomas because like I have? I have the pick that I would go at number four and I will easily take a number five but this the safety and security of of Michael Thomas. Yeah it is a warm cozy blanket knowing that you still have incredible upside of the guy who finished overall number one at the wide receiver position. Six hundred seven hundred targets. Something like that. And he's he's safe like he the only thing that can stop Michael. Thomas is injury and it's just far less likely for that to happen than it is to one of these running backs. It's not even trained. Laurie to drew brees anymore. Like that. Right Amos comes in throws picks has to throw the ball a ton and Mike. Tomlin says great numbers right. So we're on the clock. I pick here as far as I'm concerned. I'm glad Michael Thomas went there. I know what you're saying about him being safe at that position. I'm still looking at running back. I've been through my Projections WITH MINNESOTA. Oh yes so delvin. Cook on the board here Is enticing but others might say and Alvin Kamara here a Davante Adams depending on where you haven't projected smash pick me Derrick Derrick Henry as well and the the surprise or a surprise so far of through my projections mine number three player on my board is available here and number four in its Dalvand Cook. Yeah I I think this is super easy for the three of us. All three of us would easily take Dalvin Cakir. That's that's the fourth player. In order as expected at the beginning of this draft to me I would take him over. Michael Thomas Obviously got injury concerns but he is when he was on the field. He is one of those rare. I get to players in one fantasy football roster spot because of how much he produces so yeah. It's Dalvand Cook your for all of us. All right yeah Last year Devon Cook for the record two hundred fifty carries eleven hundred thirty five yards and another fifty three receptions for five hundred nineteen charts but the injury concerns are very fair. I know he. I believe that he appeared in fourteen games but he was Dalvin cooked playing that workhorse role for only eleven games. And that's I believe what he had two years ago as well as the the guy hasn't come anywhere close to a full season. I'm very excited about this next bit because I know exactly what conversation we're about to have after we took delvin. Cook yes. Derrick Henry went next Alvin Kamara. Davante Adams Nick Shot. Joe Mixon Tyreek Hill. Josh Jacobs finishing out the first round Very bullish on Josh Jacobs so far when looking through Projections in Twenty Twenty De'andre Hopkins Kicks Off the second round. Julio Jones Lynn fornet Aaron Jones. Chris Godwin Kenyan Drake Clyde Edwards. Hilaire will not surprise me if he ends up right around here in a lot of graphs for them upside. Do you have your Kansas City. Projections done yet. I believe we have all projected are Kerry counts for that team. Yeah and we'll just just your your number right now. I know you still have some teams to how high is Edwards sitting right now for you right now? He is at thirteen and I have ten teams left to projects. So he'll be four. I've fifteen right now okay. I've got at ten but I've got about half the league left to do. He'll be in the top twenty for sure. I was shocked when I saw how high he ended up for me. I do know that I have him higher than The Guy I assume. We're going to have to debate here. You say we're going to have to pick you ridiculous person on the board right now. We've got a running back to Alvin. Cook I'm going to set the stage for the fight and On the board right now you could go. Some people would be staring down Travis. Kelsey the number one tied in on the board. We can talk about that philosophy. Kenny Golladay. Who through twenty two teams project that I have in the top five Mike Evans is sitting there at running back? You Have Miles Mile Sanders. You have off an actor. You have girly you have Carson. You have Jonathan Taylor so another rookie. In case somebody wants to go rookies back in the second round. And obviously all the quarterbacks are still there but the conversation that needs to be had just around awesome. I'm very like I know where I stand. I know where Jason stands where I am left in full. Suspense here is. I have no idea where Andy stands on. This argument stands much with my friend. Yes I have Oshun presently had of Aaron Jones and Kenyan Drake. Oh you gonNA be okay mic. I got a fan my saviour cool down from that one so in your top ten for sure. He is inside of my top ten. Where did he finish last year? Mike O. Austin a running back six and a half points so he's in now we've talked about it a little bit last year ninety two receptions. I haven't backed down around the seventy five range this year last year. One hundred thirty two carries up to about one hundred and seventy five carries this year. The the absence of Melvin Gordon he's a centerpiece of the offense and like I said on the last show at this point I'm accepting the production of ostanek learned fantasy. That doesn't mean we have to take them here. We could be A there could be another angle. We could go but ECKER would be my pick. Personally Austin actor would be my pick as well. I know that the quarterback situation has has changed in that. It's a fair argument to make but Austin Ecuadoran. Those first four games Melvin. Gordon was not around and it was the OSS necklace show. He was a top five running back three of those four weeks. The Guy got the bag he is he is the centerpiece of the running back position and not just running back. I mean he'll be moved around. It'll be put in the slot and everything. So I I believe in Austin and I believe that he is a top ten running back for this year and I I'd I don't all I believe in them as a running back. I think he's talented. I don't believe in this team. I don't believe in the offense. I don't believe that he's going to have anywhere. Near the touchdown numbers that he had last year. Eight receiving touchdowns. That's when you've got Philip Rivers. He's down at seventy targets for me this year. Which would be you know a good number coming from tyrod Taylor and just in Herbert. But it's not enough to get it done. I've got him behind. I'm still got half the League to stop and I've got him currently You know behind some is like Todd Gurley David Johnson. Who you know the older guys with new teams in new situations. But I don't think he's you know you brought up okay. Well when Melvin Gordon was out he was the guy that was because they had a roster that assume. They'd have Melvin Gordon. And they didn't they went out and they drafted Joshua Kelly. They're not going to give author Wrangler Four Fourth Round pick they. They drafted Joshua Kelly. They've still got Justin Jackson. Who is my. That's my question for you is is carried distribution. I've got all your ten because because that's a lot of carries that are going out the door and I just you know Justin Jackson. I understand getting a large amount of Joshua Kelly. Guinean larger mills. Not Going to happen. I I we just agree to disagree there. I've got off neck. Where leading the way. With hundred and fifty two rushing attempts. Joshua Kelly with one hundred twelve and Jesse Jackson was seventy four. Oh Jackson I'll bet you anything Jackson out producers Joshua Kelly this year. That'll be a fun. One to look at. So Melvin Gordon leaving the team in Moves Austin up twenty overall. Carey's that's how I haven't breaking down the different swallow this pick here. You'RE GONNA be able to take it if we take him. If we get a top five potential running back in second round. Where where would you go? Jason if you're not taking Acura what's your thought process here of the guys remaining so todd. Gurley David Johnson. I've got ahead of Austin. I'm not super excited about them. I don't WanNA draft him in the second round. Got Kelsey on the board. The one guy that I haven't started yet that I assume would be my pick. We'll be Mile Sanders. Sanders has the potential to really jump into an absolute year in and year out top. Ten selection of top ten running back and you could get them in the second round here but I haven't personally started him out so I don't know how how that lies. Where do you have miles sanders? I have mile centers top ten guy but two spots behind. So I'm GONNA give this. I'M GONNA give this to you guys. I'm clearly on the island We'll go with US and asked us that draft is done man. We log out. I'm going to use apple here soon. Well the truth is if if mile centers had any sort of a season like us. Ecuador had last year. It would be incredible for him. And I haven't gone through Philadelphia either so he may end up in the same or similar boat. But it's going to be a fun situation to watch. I remind you Jason in all of these contentions against us. I want to remind you you spent the season. Disparaging their quarterback on a team ended up. Drafting what sixth. So you hate it. You hated the quarterback in Los Angeles that somehow provided and they didn't wind up here. I hated the quarterback because he threw a bunch of interceptions and hurt my fantasy team. You know what else? He threw Amelia dump off to the running back position. Because that's what he does. Whereas tyrod Taylor is going to be mobile and I just don't think very good. Let's distract you for a moment. Why don't you talk to us about something? You're more interested in than Oklahoma killer. Sure I will talk about me all day everyday se me or meet both talking about mealtime. Mike I but I would like to talk about Omaha. Steaks for a second. Thank them for stock in my freezer. Fill IN MY belly filling my heart with delicious high quality. Me Everyone staying at home right now. Like we've never stayed home before and there's no better ever. I've never done this before so to stock up on Omaha. Then then right. Now they deliver guarantee quality and safety with every order. Your stocking up on things you need you know you. 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Then Travis Kelsey kicked off the third round and if you notice there while that was kittle ahead of Kelsey Larryelder. They were exact exactly the same points per game at the position so. I don't blame anybody you can. You can kind of pick and choose where you want to go there. Lamar Jackson at three to Kenny. Golladay at three or three and Alan Robinson with the fourth pick. We're back on the clock now. This is interesting Jason. I'm GONNA hand him this off to you to talk about but we were talking before the show both have Amari Cooper pretty high. Yes Mark Uber's on the clock here at at three. Oh five now Mike shaking his head because he's like Oh my gosh that Austin equifax coming back to. It's coming back right now but but you said you would take Mile Sanders in the previous round. And he is still available at the fifth. Pick in the third round so you could go triple running back to start this or you could go Amari Cooper or Odell Beckham Junior juju Smith Schuster. Dj More Draft Strategy Wise. Generally speaking if you have the chance to get three great running backs it's actually. We've had a lot of success in the past of using those first three picks and grab if the draft just so happens to fall. We always say stay water if the draft falls where you can get three great running backs then you can spend the next long chunk of the draft taken a bunch of shots at wide receivers and your your core is great. I don't think this applies here. Because I don't personally view us an Ecuador's locked and loaded top ten and while I like Mile Sanders and his upside. Both of those guys. I see as bigger question marks did it didn't fall where we've just got her. Not Dalvin Cook. Or Ezekiel Elliott or the. Yeah type of year in your guarantees whereas I've still got a guy that is you know again. I haven't started my entire My entire league out yet but Amari Cooper is currently sitting and wide receiver five. I did dive deep through all of the Dallas Season all the beat reporters looking at the target shares. They lost eighty plus targets with Jason. Witten they lost eighty plus targets with Randall. Cobb looking at the injury. And what happened to Amari Cooper and how he did disappear the second half how dominant he was in the beginning and looking deep i. I wasn't sure if I was going to be in on Amari Cooper Mr Fifty fifty man over his short career so far every year. He finishes well but he doesn't help you in fantasy because he disappears for. Have those games? That's my fear here. Is I have in project very high. I don't think I want to lean on him as my wide receiver. One those are to Kinda separate conversations to me. See I feel like my belief towards Amari Cooper in the way that I started him out is that it's not going to be a disappearing act this year. I I I believe in him so he would be my pick here because I think you're getting a wide receiver one in the third round after getting to solid Running back Steve. You guys see another wide receiver on the board. That is you know. Odell Beckham Jr got the name. Are you confident in taking him as your one if we learned about the name we wouldn't have taken us an actor to be honest with you are time? I would have. Our team could have looked a lot better taking a higher profile player in the second round. But that's not the objective. I don't see another wide receiver that makes me super excited. It probably stays between miles sanders and Amari Cooper here for if if we're looking strictly at wide receivers. There are two guys on the board who I have ahead of them are cooper. I Have Amari Cooper at number twelve so I have not completely thrown him in the dungeon. I'm right on the edge of wide receiver. One that we can kick them over into two anytime you want. That is also very true. The the problem with like Mario Cooper in in the targets that are gone from the team. Like the Jason witten targets. Those are guys. Make Fun of me with for Blake Jar win but they literally paid jar. Went to just replace Jason Witten and they drafted a wide receiver in the first round. Like the one hundred sixty targets that those instantly vaporized those don't just magically go to Amari Cooper they have replacement players for those already completely and I. I've been waiting to tell you this because I know how excited you'll get. I have granted still about have to League to go but I've got Blake Charles. Right now sitting at tight end seven. Yes look I didn't. I didn't just all those targets. J. Who Do you WANNA take here? Who We take into my cooper doing. We're all in baby. No I'm sorry that I have to wide receivers ahead of Cooper I have. I have DJ. More ranked ahead of of Amari Cooper and I have juju ranked head of Amari Cooper on the back in. I know I'm not going to try and talk. Ju- do I will be left. I could be on. This island is better than last year season. Because it's impossible not to two considerations that will bring forth when we make this decision Number one we could see what it's like with three running backs number two. We don't pick again for fourteen picks so because we drafted a five overall. We've got a decent wait till our next pick. Does that defined the position choice here for you. That makes me less likely to take running back just because we've got to already. And I like having the flexibility to be able to go either position next round if we were to take a running back here then when we're up fourteen picks from now we much have to go out or see right. I mean at that at that point. You're you're saying you're around you will feel back into it but I would say that the that that cliff the the depth of the wide receiver position. It's just so much stronger I I have mile. Sanders top ten guys so in. May if I'm leaving the draft in my first around with guys the three players I have projected to be top ten running backs I if two of those guys hit. My team has been unbelievably Sturdy Foundation that I feel like I could piecemeal in some of these wide receivers. Who are I think are still very valuable in the next couple of rounds? So so I'm GonNa we need to make the pick and when you call somebody you give them the pick on the next round Jason. Make the pick. My vote would be sanders. Mike I think you said Sanders but I can live with Your decision Mr Moore. I so desperately looking forward to making Mike. Take Amari Cooper however one of the things that we often say on this show. When we're doing early mock drafts. Is You want to. You want to see what happens when you try. Certain strategies. Haven after Mario Cooper. We know what happens he's skis. Lea He's about to pick miles. Pick COOPER TAKE YOU MR coop. He's got the let's take myles Sanders and see fortieth picks from now wide receivers. What are wide receivers are going to look like if you start a draft with three running backs because like I said I haven't I haven't stat at miles out but I I assume he's going to be if he's not in my top ten and he's right there so if you can get three rb ones which isn't I would start a draft like a technically is statistically speaking from last year but are we doing a twenty nine hundred draft? I'm so sorry guys. I forgot the memo not twenty Gordon. He's gone and he got paid by the way. That's all the time we have. We went through two picks so we are out of he. No I'm just kidding miles sanders. We took him. Because Jason said so. Jonathan Taylor went next. Odell Beckham Junior Amari Cooper Juju Sutton mahomes at the end of the third round. Dj More to finish it out in the fourth round is Aj browns to fond the exact arts. Todd Gurley Chris Carson Adam dealing and Robert Woods now when you say. Let's see what happens with running backs on this board in the fourteen and it looks like Nine of those fourteen picks were wide receivers that went after his only two running backs two tight end and a quarterback so it did thin out considerably. Yeah I would rather have taken Amari Cooper and grabbed here David Johnson or loved bell someone. That is our third running back. Sure who's still got guaranteed workload with a fourth man? That's that's that's some gross stinky delicious value. Right there cheeky delicious. That is that's what's the real. What's the stinky cheese? The notorious Lynn Burger. Now I'm Tom Yes it. I'm telling you right now. There are maybe more than ever running backs in that category throughout the draft now with like David Johnson Level David Montgomery maybe Jordan Howard Maybe Sony Michelle maybe James Connor. There is a stinky delicious group of like high volume. Can you pick one out to just be that rb two for you? Now there are wide receivers. I like I am I. I think we all are very high. Calvin rudely he sitting there. T Y Hilton is still in the board Keenan Allen. Dj Charq Aj Green. I don't know how generous actually do know how generous you guys were with his stats. Probably which is not at all but I have a pretty high. I've got them at sixteen. That's nice yeah that's the thing about. Aj Green is he. He still carries risk. I mean our have we have. We gotten any message from the. Aj Green camp that he's full systems go. He's ready to. If training camp started today he would be ready to go. Have we heard anything about that? I haven't heard anything I've heard the time expect. Aj Green to play. But I haven't heard I heard that like Weekly last year. That's true. Yeah I've got. Aj Agree Water for twenty one. And I've still got half the league to go so I'm I'm not. I'm not on on that but you're right so the two guys that I've still got currently in my you know very very high in in the top. Ten of of half the league. is Calvin Ridley and DJ Shark. I'm sorry for man of both of those guys I think Calvin really is going to have a monster season. He's this year's Chris. Godwin if you will you know the the clear number two on the team. There's no way he could take over the number one but the targets that have been vacated he's going to have to step up a talented young guy who's been good when he's out there. You know so I. I am a big Calvin Ridley. Belieber Zack Taylor. Aj Green. Everything's been positive. He's fully healthy. Plus he's working out in the land and that was back at the beginning of April Jay. Green healthy will put up if he was oh. Aj He is one of the best wide receivers in all the football and I feel like if he finishes in the top fifteen year. Jason should wear like an age of Green Jersey for a week fine with that. Okay good I WANNA go here laying. I agree with the contention. Though I mean lev bell sitting here makes you kind of regret going Mile Sanders in the round prior Some people knew listeners might be wondering why there wasn't a lot of talk about the Mark Jackson or Patrick. Mahomes Dak Prescott sitting there Carla Marie sitting there. We haven't brought their names up. Mike just quarterback is a very replacement. This is a single quarterback league. That's how we prefer to play. And it's just a very replaceable position. You can get valued every every year. There's value late in the draft. Yeah exactly So where do you WANNA go? Is this kind of tough because we we've kind of taken running back off the table so we got to pick a wide receiver that we liked here. So I'll throw. I agree with Jason. Dj Chart Calvin Really. Those are my top two wide receiver picks and this would be very unconventional draft strategy for me but Mark Andrews is still on the board and mark. Andrews is easily my number three wide receiver. Who He probably is in his own tier humane meantime. Oh I'm sorry. Titan Kelsey kittle. They're in the same tier for me. Mark Andrews stands in his own tier above everybody else at the position. So is there any way you would go with a tight end here? Even though you went running back heavy the logic would simply be that. We have a short wait. We're at four. Oh eight and we don't have to you know. I don't want our first wide receiver to be tighter Boyd or Julian Edelman. Hollywood Brown so T. Y. Hilton is interesting here. Knowing that he is the Alpha in that offense And just another touch point for Philip Rivers Jason If we could take him here. So let's let's narrow down the wide receiver side and see if Andrew. Somehow sneaks back to us. Is that sound alright as find to be so then. Ridley Chart Hilton. Where would you go there? I I lean Ridley which Ridley would be my pick. Okay is not going to be the most popular pick right now but come August when people really start getting serious. I think you'RE GONNA SEE. Ridley Skyrocket Up. The board would have been charged for me all right so now we took early connor acres. David Johnson Keenan Allen Devon Single Terry Age agreeing devante. Parker Love Bell. Lead belt ended up going in the fifth round Steph. Frank Gore Manfred for signs. And they're all worried he's going to go down so but we're staring down. Mark Andrews is still on the board and so anyway Hilton in the those Dj Hilton here or DJ. Chart Very interesting to me. I mean it's this is. This is a really interesting question. Is that that mid around you know. Do you take your fifth round and use it on a tight end. That is a lot more proven than having a play around with BARF. Tight ends later Or do you keep stocking up. You're running back and wide receivers because you need more and they score more. I lean towards the wide receiver. I was close between whether I would prefer Ridley. Dj Dark the fact that both of them could be my vote would be t y Hilton. And we'll give it to Mike so you said you'd prefer chart how I would've Hilton. So who do you want I would I would have taken? Dj Charcoal passed round. And so I would take him right here. I Have Ridley at fifteen so now through five rounds. I have three of my top ten running backs. Two top fifteen wide receivers. That's pretty sensational. Start Inver to speak more to just what Jason's talking about the fact that we can get his tight end seven at with our last pick than we can just wait forever jar win season. Let's just for just a counterbalance I do not have Blake Darwin anywhere near you to who against top five I. I read aloud clear West where Blake Darwin is and Mike like seventeen. He's pretty down for me this. I have a lot of immigrants that Jason Charwomen. That's when we got friend for JAR WIN SEASON. Alright so we did go with. Dj Dark as Mike Selected Mark Andrews went next no surprise. Then lock it swift metcalf maclaurin Ingram Ingraham at five eleven. And then Jacob Dobbins one pick after Ingram why there was some quotes. Today Front Baltimore talking about Dobbins as the three down guy. How are you going to be? How did you see that distribution? I actually have ingram at one. Hundred Eighty carries it got dobbins down at one. Oh Nine I how you have the distribution. I Have Mark Ingram 195. Indaba has done at one of the three okay got marking at One. Seventy six dobbins at one forty four. So I've got closer okay. Yeah gave gave them a few more so dobbins going right after Ingram and finish the fifth round than Hunter Henry. Then we got We're back on clock at six. Eight T Y HILTON WENT. Pick off and he why. Hilton in the sixth round with that offensive line. Protecting Philip rivers would have been a just an incredible steel here in the six round. Yeah it was disappointing. Would've could've should've draft goes now. Kyla Murray on the board here in the sixth round. Obviously if you knew you had a player like Lamar Jackson waiting for you here. In the sixth round last year's you know value later in drafts he would be tempting so I'm bringing his name up. You have At running back he most hurts on Michelle. Kareem hunt a wide receiver. Jarvis Landry Deebo Samuel. Julian Edelman ty Boyd Michael Gallup Hollywood Brown and and right now we're sitting with Cook heckler Ridley Chart in Mile Sanders. What are you guys? Believe right now about remote start I am. I think I ended up more bullish than you guys did. When we were talking about on the other day I think the Backfield is mostly most hurt in Coleman. So pretty bullish with the way. They're on the football. I just he is an enigma man. I'd projecting him is so hard where you go and you and you're trying to read into the trends. Remember what happened last year where he had the massive breakout in the second? Half the season. And then it's like playoff week. One or whatever also has seven coleman all over again before then moster just beat the crap out of Green Bay. If I'm remembering right it was just so it's it's hard to really feel like you have a solid pulse on what San Francisco it do. They ran the football. Four hundred and ninety eight times last year at Breda was part of that equation to begin the year. It's weird to have a team that runs the ball so well with such good offense of minor head coach where you kind of. Don't want any of the pieces. That's what I want them both. I don't care which one it's just one of those things where it's very new England patriots of yesteryear where they're going to have a great running back a week. Good luck starting the right one and if you start moster and this week they just decide. We're going to give it to him this week and most gets to carries and just catches a past game instead it exactly so. I do think he is a talented. And we'll put up plenty of fantasy points but how they come and whether or not there in your starting lineup is. I think the issue All right so. This is a tough pick. I mean you've got Jarvis Landry there but I think we all think that passing volume is going to go down a little bit. Oto Beckham seems to be healthy. They added Austin Hooper to the offense cream hunt. Is there so lot of a lot of players to catch the ball in Cleveland and they should be throwing the ball less so that would be the concern with somebody like Landry Eshelman? Who is generally a target monster? You've got to look at Jarrett Stidham and say okay. Well what can he really provide standing out? The Patriots was one of the worst of my life streets. I just wanted to vomit everywhere because I don't want anybody there. I don't I really don't cause Edman will go higher. Probably would want him and everybody else. I'm like this is GonNa be the watch so I feel like I. I don't know if you listed them off as a name but When when I saw the the players pop up the player who who? Who's laugh I'm shocked? You didn't just like auto draft Deebo Samuel. I would be perfectly fine with Deebo Samuel here but we are looking for our first depth fees if I had to pick between most certain Samuel. That's tough pick. I think I'd go moster but In a wild turn of events have depot at wide receiver. Twenty one. Yeah I have remote start at running back. Twenty one twenty one. I'm just curious. What do we do with Hollywood Brown? Because I'm very bullish on Markey's Brown taking that step forward year. Two with Lamar Jackson Man. I got him in that tyreek. Hill type of role. Wonder why doesn't know what I I really wanted to be. Just break free with Markey's Brown and I stabbed him out. I had him at a certain area. And then even after that then you guys were talking about how bullish you are. Okay I got I gotta go look back and Markey's Brown again. I went back. I said Okay. I see some things breaking certainly I bumped them up even a little bit more and he is still piece still buried for me like he's he's not he's he's not even a three for me. I I. The Path is the path is just too murky me seeing that happen where. I mean he could be in the tyreek Hill role. But how many times is Lamar Jackson? Actually GonNA throw that ball. Yep that's the problem so I am not in if you have in rainbow that twenty-one our team needs a wide receiver more than it does running back right now So I'm comfortable with deebo Samuel unless he want WanNa talk me into like element or Gallop. Those would be the other two considerations. But I'M GONNA. Do Yeah Gallup. I you know if if I was taking a wide receiver Marcus Brown. I'm taking my shot on them. But maybe you could get markey's Brown later and don't need to necessarily swing here. We should look and just decide. How many tight ends are left? We are happy with is it. You know is eight. You know I'd be happy with Evan. Ingram Jared Cook Obviously those two guys get sticky. Plenty happy with when drop down. Sickie Hayden hearst. I have who I haven't high get sick quite a bit but I would be content with Kazuki for sure you know it just depends if you see a tear difference between some of these other players. I don't think Cooper has a season like he did last year or anything close in Cleveland. Mike I know we talked about that. Yeah neither of see that way. Ingram is a great risk. We ended up taking Samuel. And then higby Wilson Landrieu. Eshelman went off the board. Most Mike Williams. Tyler Board and Keyshawn Vaughn in the seventh round. You're staring down. Kyla Murray in the seventh round right now. That's fair so that that pick is very interesting if you project a top. Three season out of him Last year where he finished at five or six. I can pull it out I believe he finished. I WANNA say seven okay. So we seven yeah down Hopkins in Arizona Kenyan Drake there for the full season. What they did with Cliff Kingsbury. There is you know. Sometimes you take your shot at that magical year. Murray's in that category Prescott in that category for me but only one of them's sitting here in the middle of the seventh round so Kyla Marie here with a big wait before our next pick already having depth on our bench is very tempting. I'll make the call on it Jason it's okay if it's my pick overall. I'm you know I'm I'm not worried about losing Calamar. Either our guys so late that I love I mean you and I were talking about Matthew Stafford. We'll we'll get him with our last pick. If we want and I would be completely fine Having him on a roster going in if it's my pick entirely I I see Markey's Brown. Still there jared cook. It would be between those two guys because after Derek cooked to me. There's a big tear break So which one of those two guys neither your pick your pick? I'm taking Markey's Brown. I believe in the talent has for like four years going back two years in college. This offense he was dealing with injury coming in out of camp and then through the season I think he's primed for an explosion and now that he's our fourth wide receiver. That's that's where you can take that risk. What's crazy is our wide receivers have ended up being the breakout candidates. I mean outside of DJ Shark. Who still has question marks around Menchu for a full season kind of broke out here but Ridley deebo Hollywood Brown? You're kind of counting on Emerging Schreyer's at wide receiver. So we took Hollywood Jason. So deftly selected kyla. Murray will fuller after him. Josh Allen went in this round Aaron Rodgers at seven twelve. Oh come on Man. D'oro well okay. Kareem Hunt in the eighth round. John Brown Justin Jefferson Sony. Michelle Nathan again. Like I said that is it's stinky but if Sonny Michelle receives two hundred fifty carries which is a distinct possibility. It's incredible value in eighth round has stinky as it is You know you look back at his ear and we all know the expectations and you you look at him. And it's like two hundred forty seven carries just under a thousand yards seven touchdowns in eighth around two hundred forty-seven and he hit a thousand. No no he didn't use three point seven. Three points was pulling the bell. But I'll take I'll take those numbers in the eighth round. I won't take them in the third fourth year so We're we're back on the clock here in the eighth round can speed this thing long. Jared Cook Still on the board. I'M GONNA make that pick for us your opponent I would take. I would take Ingraham. The the Jared Jared Cooks Jared Cook is you would jared you would take avenue over jared. Cook I would. Wow I know. He's a massive health risk. I I totally accepted. Understand that but Evan Ingram if evidence Ingraham plays top three is in his range of outcomes. And Jared Cook has. He's got Eric Brown numbers from a couple years ago. With the colts his touchdown regression is coming. Well maybe this isn't a simple of a pick. I think Jason and I though both Nava Jerry sends on Jared Cookie. Well so yeah. We like Jared Cook and editing room I mean Jordan Howard probably would have been my pick Just because he was the last starting running back in the In the NFL. When you're this late but I'm I'm happy to have cook all right. We are in the ninth round now. Names there are other starting running back. Yeah there could be some stars here. Jordan Howard win at the back of the eighth Damien Williams went dairy Slayton in the ninth. Marvin Jones scrape value in the ninth. Marvin Jones is built in value every draft. That he's ever been in see is I mean I? If the disrespect for our predict is is outrageous man he's a good player and he produces every represents for us he represents a like low visa-free square we put them in the UK as a free square as a value. We don't have to even think about it. I mean it's really when I'm stat in my guys out and I'm just like oh my gosh. I've got MARVA. Jobs ahead of key amounted to help. What's going on like these Marvin Joe House now with Stafford last year his numbers. We're going to be like eleven hundred yards in like four hundred sixty touchdowns and he's a guy who can actually hit double digitized. Yeah he's he might not value a player in the ninth round. That has that in his range of outcomes. There's not very many. There's no way that I will allow Marlin Mac to fly by us in the ninth round this far after Jonathan Taylor. We were looking at the exact same player. Andy with where it was There's probably some starting running backs. Here between MARLA MAC Ronald Jones. Like these guys are still the starters. I know we've all got the fever. That requires more and more rookies. But I'm GonNa take the shot that Marla MAC is actually still the started. Jonathan Taylor may overtake the job. I just don't project that being weak want maybe I get three or four weeks value out of Martin Mack? Maybe I see week two he. He's still looking good with numbers and I took him late now. I can flip him. There's he's a zero percent chance that there is a full you know removal and full supplanting this year Mac was so good for them and their system and the trust factor. Not being rookie coming in I have Taylor and Mac very similar in fantasy. Finish at the end of the year. But you're right if you get five six years of five six game. Sorry are Mac. That's worth a lot. I mean we have seen that with James Connor gets a bunch of work before you know love comes back and the opportunities there so knife around Marla. Mac is silly to me and you can. You can try those players those players that are going to get the start going to get the work early when it looks like. Oh Is there. Then you know you you sell them high before the the rookie takes over and you know when you're when you're at the draft you got to care about those first few weeks a little bit more than normal. You've got to care about that with you know the schedules coming out tonight for the NFL. That's to say a lot of my late quarterbacks that I want to draft because if shares someone's playing against New England week one and you know if if if Stafford's week one New England then I'm not having him on my board for that last quarterback. I WANNA draft a taking a shot at a quarterback. You're not gonNA endure two or three weeks of bad matchups exactly to prove your point speaking of quarterback. I'm interested where you guys have ended up with drew brees because I've got him back inside the top ten. It was an absolutely sensational year. I don't know if you can really buy into. This was the resurgence of drew brees but found myself more and more as a as I was looking at looking at breeze looking at the year he had last year looking at his future of of where he is on top of passing records. I know this is getting really narrative straight but this this might be the last year of drew brees. It wouldn't surprise me to see Sean Payton. Lean may maybe a little tiebreaker goes to. We're going to have drew brees. Try and throw it in here and let's solidify him as with solidified. Does all time records here for drew? Brees an we win games that way. Twenty seven touchdowns in eleven games last a beast gala manual sanders. In addition to the team he had last year. And where are we agreeing on something? Jared Cook Steph Jerk Cute you came by the reason I like it ten tenth round. I'm happy to do. We agree on a date. We did it. We must ask close at some point here soon so we have breeze. Cook Equa Really Charq. another cook that would be jared miles sanders deebo. Samuel Hollywood Brown Marla Mac. We have to bench spots left defense looking at value on the board. I was talking to Mike yesterday. Anthony Miller had that stretch last year where he was absolutely outstanding in Chicago. You get better quarterback in Nick. Foles does that you know. We have a lot of emerging tytler picture wide receiver. Maybe not the best. Pick their alshon. Jeffery seems like a great value at this point in the draft middle of the eleventh roundly. Their team came out yesterday and said he'll be the focal point. Point of the offense in terms of the passing offense Daryl Henderson if you WANNA take a shot in the Los Angeles backfield so it's take your shot time with to bench spots. I wanted and I WANNA see week. One Johnson I have some magic happened and those are those are my two names we right. There is Darrel Henderson. Does he surprise people and he takes the starting job. It's in the realm of possibilities. I don't know if I'm going to project that because I think acres is very very good. But if Anderson comes out gets fifteen carries week one it shouldn't. It shouldn't floor you if that happens. And then Deontay Johnson was actually. Okay Ish with The quarterback play. He had to put up a last year so I think if he gets big band. I think Johnson could take a really big step forward on Madison out there because of the cook situation. Madison had over one hundred carries last year. Sure actually one hundred on the DOT and we've talked about the durability. There aren't a lot of handcuffing situations but you know Brooks wanted me to ask the question about Madison as well He is a clear handcuff. And I think if you want to protect appears you WANNA protect that. I'm one hundred percent fine with I'm you know you can take it with the last pick though you can take it with the last pick. I lean towards Sterile Henderson to to me. Because you brought this up years ago and it's proven true over and over those last couple of picks on your roster which were down to the last two bench spots you want a guy that you're gonNA figure out in week one. Is You something or not? You know is Darrel Henderson. The backup and you know it's camakers or is Darrel Henderson the starter. We're probably not going to know for sure how that's to split out until week one but I like being able to cut guys the waiver wire right so you need guys that you can cut so I I would take the shot on on a guy like Henderson here all right. Let's go ahead and do it and then I WANNA bring this up with our last pick here my still on the board and Mike ezekie. Second Half was double digit touchdown number seven hundred plus yard numbers You Know Jason Many Times. You've brought up look these these titans take awhile. He was drafted to be athletic. Weapon in the offense geeky would be another player that you could pick up tight. Ends are hard to find. And if he had a great week one you could trade him or jared cook and be in a position to have a stranglehold on the next emerging tight end that would be an option to Johnson. Sitting there though. I guess that's a hard guy to pass up on. Yeah it's it's ironic. I would throw pressing Williams name out there as well Mike. He's teammate the rookie last year. Who was sensational until he went down with the ACL injury. And that's when get and Parker's targets went through the roof They you know Miami could've gotten so many they. I mean they had won eleven picks in the draft and they did not really bring in Andy Receivers. No they paid Wilson instead so you know. I think I'm fine with all the names being thrown out there. You could well. My you know we'll hand this final pickoff to you and We'll see contrary and you go but alas pick in our draft for us Perfect I will take Peyton Barber. Well that's I get the pick pack guy would take the. Aren't they Johnston? This was my team any interesting Jason. Raider bring his name up at the end of now. I mean if if if you WanNa grab member McLaren last year after week one this yes. I remember them. Corn with the breakout on accident. Bad that Jackson's right there. If you're going to take Philadelphia Eagle. I'm not gonNA take the rookie really you wouldn't I would take over. Dishonor Jackson was that I would take regular over. Young draft rookies rookie wide. You leave them. You leave them to us. Yeah Alright to wrap. This draft up drew brees quarterback Dalvin Cook and Austin running back Jason's roster would be like coke and miles sanders at running back. Oh we got him to because we have him as well. Calvin. Dj Chocolate Wide Receiver. Along with deebo Hollywood Brown and Deontay Johnson on the bench. We have Jared Cook or as we say to your Euch at tight end and we also have Darnall Anderson yes better known as Daryl hinder better known by all and in Marlin Mac Marlin Mac sitting here what he was before. Jonathan Taylor after is incredible because it was easy to look at Damien Williams and be like. Okay we'll throw the side. We've done that before with him. But having to kind of see MARLA MAC tossed to the side after Jason. You love that talent. You see it on the film waiting phase outstanding. Now you're Jonathan Taylor Fan. So it'd be very you Jonathan Taylor Fan. I think he's going to take over the one a role. But you're right MARLA. Mac will be involved. He'll probably start the season with more than he'll finish the season so having him there late in the draft. I am fine with all right. That does it for the first mock draft who have the season has field gentlemen Ding yes. That's a strong pretty good. I liked the roster. I think we've got a good combination of Solid pieces with upside pieces. It's different though 'cause you get used to seeing so many rosters from years past and when you start to have some of these emerging names that's one of the things a lot of fantasy owners out there good advice like you need to adjust year to year. There is the risk of missing out on players. Because you don't because you you fall in love with names ended up taking on Odell Beckham junior before Calvin Ridley before Chris Godwin. Maybe last year. And so you have to pick and choose. Your spots are so that is it for this show. Thank you for supporting the podcast. We appreciate you. Let us know what you think of the draft on twitter at the F. F. ballers wherever you follow and support the show. I'm sure there'll be some haters out there but Also man goodbye. I still paid Barbara with the right. Thank you for listening to another. 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NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers

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NFL Draft Breakdown: AFC Winners & Losers

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News and notes from sleeper Adam Schefter reporting that the raiders running back newly signed as air Crowell. He tore his achilles in practice. He is out for the season. I received some fantasy reaper notes on this one. Yeah. I believe live on the show. You dropped Chris Warren. I did I did live cut. Chris Warren livestream as we all said, I don't remember. No it was on the show on Tuesday. We all said that he he wasn't worthwhile. Yes. That is. And that was the nail in the con- fries. Acre wa now, this sucks, whereas they occur. Well, obviously, the the news right afterwards. Was that cramps is referring Doug Martin is signing a deal to return to the raiders. And let's just talk real quick about value. Long-term values Ahah Crowell. I have him on some dynasty teams. He was only able to find a one year deal this off season after being cut by the New York Jets in his mid twenties and running backs just don't come back from an from an achilles tear. Look how long they've been waiting for Deontay form in McCullough's. Sure. I mean, you can go on and on with names of guys who have ruptured the achilles torn achilles. However, you want to say it, and they just don't come back. Do you see any type of world where this isn't the end of Isaiah Crowell career? No, not really because you don't just as a dynasty on. Are. You don't just need a guy to recover, and you need a guy to recover and be signed and be relevant. He has to be on a team when he would get carries and be influential that there were question marks about that this year already they draft the judge. Jacobs as air Carell was probably just a handcuff this year before the injury. Do you agree with that Jason one hundred percent? I mean, I've I've got crow L in the league that we had a startup dynasty draft in this season. He will not be on my roster in the morning. The colts. You sure not right now. Not right now here on the show. Absolutely. I mean, if this Lawrence getting cut a live cut him, do you feel little more compassionate because after all went down? I y Crowell. I mean, the guy who's a it's a success story. I think it would only be appropriate to life cut him. That's all I'm saying be going. The colts have signed Spencer ware to a one year one point three million dollar contract. It's interesting to me only because they kind of kick the tires on a number of running backs off season, including j Gye apparently they settled on spin somewhere. This great news from Almac. I think it's a this is more of an indictment on Jordan Wilkins. They don't think that he can be the proper backup or the proper depth piece. So it'll be Marla MAC and Nahim Hines to be the primary guys. It's great news for me. I think I agree. I think it's great news for someone like J, John, even though it wasn't likely if you signed him, he has more talent inability at this age of his career, assuming his niece hold up that you know, he he was an influential player he had big big plays. Sure. He would have been more of a threat to every down work, then Spencer. Oh, well, we'll be to Marla MAC and his name highs being undervalue. Yeah. I know breath. Things bros. Would say yes, he is a big Heinz fan. Yeah. After after we we had we dug in we all really like Marlin MAC, we decided that he's my guy one of my guys for this year. Jason was really on board with that looking at looking back at the target volume. Marla MAC is not catching any passes. They're all going to Hinds at the running back position. And it'll be a good offense. It's an offense in a team that I just went through and did all my over unders on win totals. I think you know, I I took the old. I took the over for the colts as well. All right. The forty Niners. Head coach Cal Santa hand suggest the third round wide receiver rookie, Jalen Hurd. Could eventually moved to tight end. He talked about Jalen hurt a lot yesterday. We talked about deebo Samuel and heard on the Tuesday NFC winners and losers where two guys thoughts about her. I think he's just a really talented multifaceted player. He was he six five yet was a. Thousand yard rusher. And then he goes to wide receiver. It moving them too tight end. I don't think that that's an indictment. They're not going to have them in line blocking. That's just saying he's basically a fifth wide receiver on the field. And you know, I I think he's just a talented guy. He's not going to be the the problem is he's low in the pecking order, right? He's behind Pettus who's behind Kittle. He's behind deebo. So you know, there's there's offenses where you can go three deep but going four deep is is really difficult. All right. That was today's news announced be sure to switch your dynasty league over to sleep sleeper. Download the app today. We're going to get into winners and losers before we do that. I do want to announce the big ultimate draft kit promo there were four winners from that big giveaway that ended on the last day of the NFL draft. And I want to give a shout out to Tim, Tim. Do we have we don't have their whole name on here? Brooke beetle want you can't give full native when people getting prizes like do it. No. Because you can they'll get docs people. A look up. There are going to be other Tim Im's out there that they want. There's a really cut there's a lot of times getting excited. But there's only one team who got an Email from Papa John. All right. Tim m Joseph c rusty him. And Nick L who Tim in rusty. You're probably brothers. Because. Same last name. Congratulations. The Tim on the listener league spot the VIP tickets to the show went to Joseph, and then the jerseys one to rusty one to Nick, congratulations guys on the big wins. And we'll be doing more giveaways all off season. Let's go ahead. And let's jump in. Win. All right AFC winners and losers. If you missed the NFC show, just click click the episode right below this one on your podcast out, by the way. We appreciate everybody who has subscribed on apple podcast leaves us reviews on their help support the show. Let's get into it. The Buffalo Bills the Buffalo Bills went out and further muddy the running back waters in the NFL draft. Strange seven single Terry one of the players that was kind of a combine disappointment highly productive in college lands in buffalo. They came out and they affirmed left, Shawn. Mccoy is the starter on this team. The team also has Frank gore has TJ Yeldan I believe they're trying to unlock in chief. And if you have five running backs. That could all play. I think you get a bonus point or something like twenty five to your gamer score. Oh, okay. Is that what it is? Yes. So it's on Madden. How do people feel about Devon single Terry the selection here? It's a third round pick. It's like the sun. Mccoy's not longed for the Buffalo Bills. Even if he is the primary guy this year Frank Gordon along for the NFL single, Terry. Could be a meaningful peace in a couple of years. I was really hoping single Terry went to a team that had an offense of head coach. He did not. But he did go to a team that has the player he is most commonly comped to in front of him. Devon single Terry earned a lot of Leshan McCoy comps. So if they're looking at him as a Lucia McCoy replacement because they know that they can't have with Shawn McCoy of yesteryear tomorrow. So maybe you know, this is a an dynasty league. I've got him ranked a little higher. I believe in you guys McCoy is as they say in the plus, right? He's in the plus life. Yeah. But where does that put bring gore? Oh, Frank heaven. He's already he's he's in having right now, he looped all the way we already reincarnated winners and losers from the draft. I mean, all the running backs lose from the selection of a high draft capital running back yard. He didn't really feel confident with McCoy. Or any of those guys? We just talked about the mess there. I do think by midseason you'll probably have a guy you can start in buffalo. I do believe that that being said their quarterback, Josh Allen. He runs the ball a lot himself was he a winner in this draft. You know, they got Cody Ford is good like coding draft. I like so that that helps I mean buffalo did not have a good offense of line last year. See I would say he's in. He's an upgrade. I would say Robert Foster was a winner in this draft. Robert Foster is basically lined up outside at this point locked in. They could have gone with another wide receiver to complement. John Brown, coal Beasley, foster should start. And I think that matters fosters a burner. He had some good report. Josh Allen last year. Any other players any other losers on this roster because of the draft. No, we'll we'll just we'll see if shady's on the team when the league your start you think season star question. I do. All right. The Miami Dolphins the Miami Dolphins did did acquire. Josh Rosen in a trade, and one of the more interesting things that I have. Paid attention to is. Whether or not Ryan Fitzpatrick will actually be on this roster. Ryan Fitzpatrick had very interesting, very minimal guaranteed money. And there is a in argument to be made that while he signed an eleven year to year deal eleven million to your deal. Only one point five million was guaranteed in that deal. And there's a train of thought that they need to put Rosen out there for the duration of the season to see what they have as to whether or not they have to draft a quarterback. He would still be a seven million dollar dead cap if they cut him not if they trade him. And there's potential for injury things like that. And if you read what's going on in Miami. There have been some talk about this. The team would rather see what they have in Josh Rosen because they could be in contention for two or some of the quarterbacks next year. They probably will be Josh Rosen's getting traded next year. I'm not if he performs if he shows some on the field. I mean, if they have a top three picnics steer Josh roses getting trained because they're going to take one of these top quarterbacks from next next season. That's that's my belief as far as who was really helped this year in Miami. No Kenyan Drake dre ruin who was Kaelin Balaj any of the core all of the wide receivers and running backs that you thought weren't good enough this year to start in Miami. We'll be starting trust the process. Yeah. But we're not. I mean, are you drafting any wide receiver Alba Wilson? I'll take a flyer on. It's hard for me to say that because he's coming back from the injury. I get it. But this is flyer. This is my last positional pick. There was that. I said he'll be there. Yeah. I think Kenyan Drake has a pretty solid year. Based on the fact that they didn't go out and find somebody else to you know, him and Balaj said you all it's going to be you still are on team, Drake. Or I'm on team, Drake. I like Caleb live team Drake to start the year for, sir. Both guys are probably have an opportunity. I would say Ryan Fitzpatrick loss if he's on the roster and he starting you didn't get any other weapons. So it's going to be I let's the over under in Vegas, the win total. I took the under with Miami. Yeah. I've done it. Bravo. And they failed though. And they've you know, they failed by winning too many. They failed the failed me. Your scissored disappointments right winner. I think dolphins fans unlike years past they know what they're in for this year. Certainly they have a plan. They want twenty twenty to be there. Auburn's are horrible play 'em. Yes. Is that get balls Tahiti? What if they've got him into over as the Commissioner of the National Football League, some oh, Mark good? What kind of stuff with the third pick come on? If me Dave a draft. Mike Daniel Joan how many running backs were in this draft. All right, come all. We're moving on the New York Jets, the New York Jets winners and losers that you take away from this draft a tackle in the first round and end in the second round or I'm sorry in the third. Same. It's the same thing as the dolphins. They went pretty much status quo. I mean, they took a tight in the fourth round. But it's it's still earned in locked into be the up and comer at that position. And there was word whispers from the bushes that the jets were trying to trade up for me. Cole Henderson hard about harming Harmon. Thank you. I wouldn't Daryl Henderson Nicole in the same player. But the chiefs beat them to the punch. So we know at least that the jets wanted to add some speed they were unable to do. So so I think that Robbie Anderson and Quincy Numa are the the big winners. I don't really care about Crowder. Would you have liked to see them add somebody else for Donald sake? I I mean, if you're when you're talking you're adding a four three wide receiver ch- sure, I would like to see that happen. But I think that they're wide receiver core is definitely competent enough for moving forward. All right. Let's move onto the New England Patriots who had nine. Picks in the first five rounds. Seven in the first four and spent the first one for the second year in a row on an offensive player last year with Sony Michelle in the first round this year with the final pick, the keel. Harry, you jerks and the key way jerks because the cardinals had the next pick. And we we like we wanted to keep them here in Arizona. Yeah. I I will say I'm okay with it. Because at least you kept Mikhael Harry fantasy relevant kill Harry a winner to me big Jj winner big time with how many wide receivers went to questionable ending spots as rookies. Nikiel? Harry ends up in New England with a plethora of opportunity you have Julian Edelman, no one really on the outside. Hogan is gone gronkowski a red zone threat. Gone KUA, Harry could have very solid McCue. Harry could have pen touchdowns. Yeah. In Kiel, Harry, he's people pointed out how good he is from the slot. And if they're losing gronk who's running from the edge or in that slot. Area. They could end up deploying him downfield often like they did with grunk. I think it's a great landing spot for him. I also think it's a good landing spot as far as for the player. More more than a lot of people do for Damian Harris the running back out of Alabama. But that is not good news to me for Sony. Michelle, I looked up the split between Sony Michelle when Rex Burkhead was active and playing and when Rex Burkhead wasn't, and they are almost double. I mean when Rex Burkhead was gone Sony. Got a ton more work, obviously Sony has the textual allies those for win Sony was no. So I really I don't go. I realized it was rookie season. He still getting into the flow of things. So he later in the year they're using him differently with or without birkhead than they then they would have was that blur blur. But the point blur. All at mall cop. Oh, but the thing is is I learned Harris comes in how much were you excited for expert had last season the season before that before that very last season moderately excited? But you were talking about how they call him a mall cop. You were talking last season fell over he was a red zone option, and he was very good in the red zone and that they would use him in replacement of Sony. I think that they're going to have a good one two punch with Damian Harris and Sony, but that's not good news for the people like Andy you've been all about Sony up until the draft. I don't know if it's changed for you or not, but you were talking Sony as a low in one. No, it hasn't changed for me. Really the confidence they showed in Sony on their path to a Super Bowl last year was what I needed to see my excitement for him was based on that. I don't read much into the splits one because birkhead has been very inconsistently available to the patriots in general in too because rookie running back. She take time to be involved. And he was hurt. But you re. Into a third round running back when you got seven picks in the first four rounds, not as much I think Amy here's is a really good player. Mike you, and I both like that being said, I think you have to have depth for Sony, Michelle sunny Michelle was banged up last year. He was hurt. Multiple times ahead depth, you had the mall cop. Blur cat bird wants never Ted. He's on his segway has never been healthy look because he doesn't use the segue. Can we get a petition that Rex blur cat is allowed to use a segue on the field. I wrote head now. He's blerk. I'm not sure there's a worse name than blur ket. Not when I say it it makes me really sad. Yeah. You feel stupid. Damon Harris is pretty good. This podcast sucks. Are any other winners and losers? You want to call out from the offensive side of the ball. I mean Brady because he doesn't kill Harry. But not enough that I want on Brady anywhere near my fantasy teams are the Denver Broncos use their first draft pick on Noah Fant. Oh, yes. Heralded athletic tight end. We know that. Joe flacco adores throwing the ball to as tight ends as possible or just one just one if he could throw it to two on one play. He would he would. But I think you're referencing when Dennis Perez shockingly led the league at the tight end position receptions. Yes. Yeah. I mean, you you've seen that does know offense start from day one. Does he have an opportunity in the game? Yes. Probably. Yes. Yes. To all of the above Sutton and Hamilton didn't get any competition six round wide receiver that was it out of Colorado Joon Winfrey. But basically, the incumbent Sutton Hamilton Freeman and Lindsey that's going to be your offense in Denver this year. And I will say this. I know drew lock fell in the draft isn't great. But from a dynasty perspective. I do like the fact I think drew lock could be groomed. Into a decent player. I don't I'm not calling that he will be. But at least there's something behind flacco because my worry for Sutton, my worry for DeJean. Hamilton has been look I don't think Joe flacco is going. To be the answer. And so in dynasty where they've got good value as second year wide receivers. I've been more down on them. I liked that there's at least someone there now. All right. Let's move on Kansas City. One wanna to talk who could have been a big winner for the Kansas City Chiefs. I believe all heart house and say Jason, and I wanna talk about me. Call hard me. I would love to talk about it. We'll wait. We'll save your Daming Williams victory lap of sorts whatever you wanna call it. Even if it's warrant it's warranted. But we'll talk about Mykola hardman. I meet will Hartman drafted in the second round traded up for by the Kansas City Chiefs. They gave up their second round or any fifth round or next year to move up five spots to select Meco hardman ahead of the jets hardman is a burner big-play specialist he's taller than tyreek hill, but he does profile as what Kansas City needs. If they don't have tyreek hill, which is someone to. Run as fast as they can. So that when Patrick Mahomes uses the cannon somebody's there to catch it on the other end, it's rare for a rookie to have the opportunity to walk into an offense potentially start on the outside with an MVP quarterback that just threw fifty touchdowns. That's what he has before him. Whether he delivers on that promise. I don't know. But he deserves to be highly considered in your rookie drafts. Yeah. I've one hundred percent agree in Andy Reid knew this. The met Mahomes is incredible. He's going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the league for a long time. But Andy renew the key to this offense. Was there was speed. Because if you take if you take the burner away, and you're left with Watkins who can be a possession guy. Travis Kelsey who can also be a possession guy. You lost? Chris Conley to free agency. If you don't have the speed this. Offense will not be nearly as high powered as it was last year. That's something. I wanted to point out. I so we're talking about Mykola hardman as you know, he is a winner. But the reality is the drafting of miekel hardman is essentially emitting that tyreek is not going to be on the team shirts swapping out. That's how we're all viewing it at least right now is I am I correct to say that we're doing. Okay. So if that's the case, then Pat Mahomes is a loser here. Agreed. And and the entire offense from what that monstrous offense was last year is they take a slight downs. A loser. From the perspective of losing. Tyreek. He's not look he'd be a bigger loser. If they didn't draft a wide receiver one hundred percent, I mean miekel is great for Pat Mahomes losing. But but we can't say that Michael Hartmann is just gonna come in. And be tyreek I know you had an early five receptions last year in college. This is a guy who's very fast. He's not as good a route runner doesn't have the same hands. We haven't seen the toughness yet. That tyreek showed on the field at that size. So, you know, I do see Sammy Watkins as as a winner and Travis Kelsey is a winner. Just from a standpoint of they are all the more important to the offense. And then we can talk about running back. I don't know if I've you them as winners because I don't necessarily see the volume the target volume going up for them. Now DaMarcus Robinson would be a loser in this situation because he had an opportunity to wreak being gone. Hardman was drafted ahead of our Sega Whiteside ahead of Paris Campbell head of India's Abella, head of decay Metcalf to speak to Mike's point. And there should've taken pay filling their need, and they believe that hardman offered they moved up to get hardman over a guy like Paris Campbell. So right in this. This is a team they didn't have. I mean, they they sort of filled some defensive needs what their first round pick trading for Frank Clark. But that's where they had problems was on the defense. And they said oh crap. Now, we have a bigger problem at the wide receiver position and. That's part of why in this draft the Kansas City Chiefs were not able to pay hike capital to get a running back. You know? I mean, that's just the case they traded picks. They had to use one on two on Mykola Harmon. And so you're saying in a perfect world there really would've wanted to get a big running. I believe that that is this is Jason they'll spend a semi rounder on his bedtime story goes to sleep to to shake off the shadows. And the demons that Damien Williams is about to become Damian Williams was locked and loaded. And here's here's the the reality of the situation. They did not draft a high draft capital running back there at team scrambling to fix the wide receiver position Damian Williams and Carlos hind are both winners from this NFL draft without question without question that is going to be the the backbone of the offense at the running back position. Those two guys I still think there's an opportunity for high to make his Mark and train. Inning camp. And I still think you've you're Damian Williams on her you need to keep your eyes open. Or if you're a perspective owner, not really if you already own urine owner. Hold on tight up perspective redraft owner needs to look at that situation. And just what they want to spend on naming Williams based on training camp. Well, I think that you can also say if you're if you're already an owner, do you capitalize on the value that he is the preceived clear starter because I would I still think the long term the dynasty value is not there in redraft. He's going to be very high online rankings probably be a top fifteen running back because I still believe even without tyreek that it's going to be a plus offense live in the plus life. It will be but I was going to mention losing tyreek will have ripple effects throughout dolphins. It's not just going to be the wide receivers. It's not just going to be Pam homes. That'd be running game to what tyreek hill did cannot be replaced by a second round draft pick overnight. Sure in the whole off to Jason's point of do you trade, Damian Williams? Now if you're in a dynasty league if you are a rebuild team. One hundred percent, go get value trade him too. Contender because it could be a one year shelf life for Damien Williams. Yeah, he signed a two year contract. But even at I'm like, I am firmly on team Damien Williams. I have my dynasty team. But I readily admit this could be a one year thing. But that one year is top fifteen with top five upside. So if you are if you're not in contention, go ahead and sell them. But if you have a chance to win this year, I would not sell him. Yeah. And you're only selling them if you get a hall. I mean, that's my is is you don't just sell him because things worked out well for him. That makes no sense itsel him if things worked out so well at you're probably is willing to overpay. You're probably only going to get like draft picks because you're not going to get a comparible running back a top fifteen level running back who's more stable. I know, but you could pivot to a wide receiver. Oh, yeah. Okay. Maybe do that. I think this is we've heard it several times today on this show. And you heard it on Tuesday show. This is why before the draft you are. Looking at not just where these rookies went. But what who came out unscathed, right, Damian Williams came out unscathed? Most in look they did sign Darwin Thompson on a Utah state in there. There's people out there who really liked Darwin. I readily admit I haven't been able to dig into him just yet. But he was a sixth round draft pick the probability of guys drafted in the sixth or later. It's so astronomical. And yeah, maybe a Ryan the high of what Philip Lindsay was able to do last year. The reason why what Philip Lindsay did was so celebrated in so gnarly is because it doesn't happen if he performs your thoughts on an will evolve. Oh, very very it. Took me a second. Also. But real quick air movie. Also went to the yes, Andy's look air. Booby was someone I loved I really wanna draft capital spent on him, but he was undrafted. I'm just gonna leave air booby out there. I'm glad explained we're not telling you anything. He was he's a mythical character. He was free. All right, Los Angeles. Chargers might team. Wait one. Oh, yeah. Do you ever announcements? Yes. I've got a huge announcement undrafted free agent have signed with the Los Angeles chargers. Jason Moore did sign that is from Findlay college. That sounds like a college. You may have air may not I promise you. I may or may not have tended film, buddy. That sounds like a scandal. Your parents got you in. It's not Finland college. Is that I know Bonjour here. All right. It's Findlay who they do. I don't know wide receiver. Jason. Yes, I am on wide receiver. Why? Oh, my shaming. Live in that. Plus, larry. Said wide receiver. Oh my goodness. Okay. Sketch radius knows no bounds. Oh, man. Okay. Eastern stick. Wow. We added eastern stick in the fifth round quarterback at North Dakota state. They say they wanna use them like. Take some hill, tastes them hill. Okay. And no fantasy relevance. A realistically everything stayed status. Call on the offense of side of the ball. They used to third round pick on offensive tackle. Okay. There's there's no loser here for the chargers as far as offense of fantasy football. What you saw last year's what they're going to try to roll out there this year again. So I don't think the draft had any bearing in fact, there's there's it it only could have heard. I don't think there was a situation or an opportunity a hole where had they drafted a wide receiver running back. We would have been excited about it only would have hurt their situation. So it's it's smart that they focused much more on the defensive side reinforces Mike Williams significant role in the offense. Yes, did you guys? Do you over unders on the I took the over for the chargers, did you? Yeah. I was gonna say I actually took the under were they were they at nine. They were at ten ten. Yeah. They were at ten. I think a winner a. Potential winner would be Justin Jackson who I know. I just talked about how late round guys don't pan out. But Justin Jackson was able to get on the field and show something to the team. Awesome equities in the last year of his contract. And they didn't add anybody at least this year. Just seeing Justin Jackson is if he's on the fringe at like, the low end of your bench on your dynasty team. Make sure he stays there. All right. The Oakland Raiders. They drafted a one two three Clemson Tigers. In the first round. Omar, Josh Jacobs welcomed opportunity. Sack first round pick by the Oakland Raiders. That's the headline here. Yeah. He's locked in. He is a he's going to be given a three down roll the high draft capital skill set. And then Isaiah Crowell going down. And not a lot of talent behind them gives the offense of lot of flexibility to be able to throw to Jacobs out of the backfield. And he is a huge winner with the the landing spot. Derek Carr big winner, huge when they he's my biggest winner here because there was all the 'cause he has a job because he's got a now does he have a job? It's a pretty good job right now. They went out they got Antonio Brown. They got Tyrell Williams that got Josh Jacobs who can catch balls out of the backfield. You even took hunter Renfro Renfro is a good wide receiver. I think it's not a bad spot for him to go for the future development. But the worry was are they going to go after Cuyler Murray or Dwayne Haskins and replace Derek card. They didn't which means they're going to have the. It's that that was nonsense. They would never even dream about replacing Derek Carr. That's their guide. They're all in on them whether true or not this season. They're pushing all their chips in on their car. And he is in a position to win to be an actual relevant fantasy quarterback this season. And I think we're so just done with their car from the last year and a half. I still that we don't see eye valuable this still him about even if you don't believe he's if you're in game of thrones. Okay. And you've got to go fight the army of the debt, and you I would aren't sure whether that guy over there is a good fighter cars in the front line. Get outta here. What I'm saying is your maybe you're not sure that he's a great fighter. But then you give them a tool belt, and it's got all the best weapons that exist in the whole world. Yeah. At least you got a shot. Better than being out there in the snow naked. He's going to be a little bit more. Ceo wants a thousand times little more Tim Allen little less Albor land with that tool belts. If you know what I'm aware to use, Danny. So obviously, we Mike and I are on different opportunity for Derek Carr to argue with you. I don't of course, he has opportunity as the best wide receiver football on his team. And you don't think that's enough for him to be famous. I still think he washed the draft with complete diarrhea just panicking meta who's going to get replaced. Josh Jacobs is gonna help them out of the back. Good. You know? Derek Carr likes. You throw the ball short. That's all. Yeah. Cook question because of the is the coil news the signing of cramps. Doug Martin once again, relevant somehow, if you are the Josh Jacobson, would you rather via to pick one would rather have Jalen Rashard on your team? Or would you rather have Doug Martin on your team? I rather one two three. Okay. We didn't say the whole name of sounds stupid. I said Jaylen aside use the whole name, you you really messed that up, Mike. Well, me me, and we're just we're cooling. You're on a last name. L friendly, you you and my good, buddy. Hats name basis are eye. Let's talk about the AFC north. The Baltimore Ravens invested their first overall pick on the first wide receiver off the board. Hollywood brown. I remember previous shows in previous years where we could say something like be still my heart is when a player that we love gets drafted in a situation that we love, but this was breaking my heart. I literally said on the pre-draft show the one place. I will be sad. If Markey's Broome goes so go to Hollywood you become a big star. Sometimes you go there and you work at Universal Studios weight. And yes, Markey's Brown. Look Alvarado big winner. Here comes King Kong. Lamar Jackson was Lamar Jackson was a win huge too. Big weapons in the first three rounds. Markey's Brown miles boykin to receivers that I really love. Lamar Jackson love every opportunity to improve on those passing numbers passing attempts. There will be opportunity for Hollywood Brown in this offense. What are we talking about fantasy wise three or four catches game? That's what you probably talking about with with Hollywood. And the nice thing is if he takes one across you know, the formation he can take it to the house. I would I would say another loser in this draft is CD lamb is speedy small teammate at Oklahoma who will come out next year in the draft. And they'll be like, oh, see those tiny guys, they might not work out. I'm your man. I feel like the another loser. You're calling for the future drafts of his team E S the hundred and seventy pound wide or see. I'm not I have a big let's say, let's say Markey's Brown goes out. Doesn't do anything of. No it can't get the accurate deep passes from Lamar Jackson that hurts the future stock these tiny wide receiver. I don't agree. How about that? Then I disagree with your. Here's here's why. Because you're I if you would want it to make that argument about fantasy players won't have faith in in little receivers or something that's fine. Because I don't think Markey's Brown's gonna set the world on fire for fantasy. But he's going to be great for Lamar Jackson, and that's just gonna validate the little receiver because he's gonna come out. I think Baltimore they were a Tinos competitive last year you had the most anemic receiver in the draft. It's going to help them win games. I think it is good for Baltimore for. Good for Jackson this good for city. We'll see we'll see. I mean, the whole point is really like if Baker and come out and stunk it up this year. Yes. If he just failed and fizzled, and it wasn't good that I don't believe in marriage. The number one pick in this year's draft. So are you then predicting Markey's Brown's going to come up and stink it up? You're saying, well, that's the thing. I mean, he's he's, hyper talented, but this is the worst situation of all thirty two teams that he could've landed in. So I think it's going to have a bad year. Yeah. I don't think it's the worst. Because I think you where would you have put them you can come in and be the one from day one. But even after -tunities so here. Yes, there's going to be rookie improvement. But just a snapshot of what Lamar Jackson actually did in the in the games that he started. So we started seven games of the regular season his pace for a full year is of is two hundred ten completions. Just over twenty five hundred yards and eleven touchdowns. I don't think he ever past two hundred years. He did he let me. V one time one time he hit two oh four I understand that. But I don't want to me personally. I don't want to over emphasize the projected season on a rookie quarterback taking over an offense from Joe flacco leaning on what he's great at that. You don't need to have a ton of training camp in practice with the first team with which is taking the ball and running. I think there's opportunity for improvement. So I'm not saying he will be amazing. But you wouldn't have to give a guy in opportunity to get better in your one of your because. No rookie quarterback's go out and throw for a tunnel yards. Sure. But I'm saying the jump that you need from twenty five hundred yards and eleven touchdowns. Well, it's it's you need a very out Hollywood Brown already. I did. All right. Let's take a look at this. Because we're in the throngs of our full team by team projections. In fact, I believe that was the quick question of the day Jason while we pull that out. Maybe you can luminescent somebody asked. Well, what process? Do you go through in your rankings for the ultimate guys pull that up? So. So the ultimate draft kit. You know, we we come out early with our rankings where a like a lot of people. Do we look at the players we like, and we sort him around and order them. Those are pointless to me those are fun little nuggets to talk about. But when we are prepping for draft kit, we go through and we stat every single player on every single team. We're looking at the quarterback, and how the target distribution works from position to position from within the position group, we make sure things make sense. We can't you know, have our wide receivers on a team projected for forty touchdowns and the quarterbacks projected for thirty that wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. So we really take a look at a ton of different things. But then we go and look at our rankings, and we actually get a a much different order. Sometimes it's very surprising to ourself but much more accurate part of how we have historically had such good accurate rankings in the fans pros competitions. Because we are. We are truly standing out twenty nineteen takes very long. Time. It does it's its grueling. So I guess this would be to the the point of Markey's Brown now having fantasy value. I don't project it for a ton of points. I haven't projected for a pretty good yard perception, I'll I projected under forty receptions on the year as do. I I thirty seven receptions six hundred ten yards four touchdowns. The handful of rushing it tests, very very comparable to me. I have him. I haven't started out for ninety two points and a half point PBR ninety CD lamb hired nannette about one hundred fifteen but. I just think he's a difference maker on the offense. But you're right. It's going to be at one predicated on Ingram Lamar Jackson's rushing just saying for all the Baltimore people. Hey, don't don't grab a team you're gonna win. It's just stinks for famous right ball. That's what we're saying. Now, we talk about Justice hill. That's what I was going to say. Well, then say I was gonna say we need to Justice hill before we move on very very fast running back. I was not in love with his film. He didn't seem to have a lot of shifting this or moves. But if you could open up a hole and get him going through it. It's going to be very difficult to catch him. I think it's actually a pretty good matchup for a team that wants to run the ball so much that has a quarterback so good at running where when you do the run pass option with Lamar Jackson if they bite on the Mark Jackson and that linebacker comes in and a hill gas a five yard head-start. Then he could be really successful that being said Mark Ingram the the starter. Signed this offseason. Gus Edwards is still there can addicts. And I think the opportunity for Justice tell what they wanna do with them is gonna come in the passing game. He will have an opportunity to showcase whether or not he has skills. I actually projected him with the second most receptions out of that backfield behind Mark Ingram. I don't know how you project it. I have them just ahead of Mark Ingram. My Justice owes the reason that Mark Ingram was a loser in the draft to me where okay. Downs. What you were very excited for for Ingram is that he can do everything he could be a three down running back. But they have a guy who could be a who could specialize for the team in the in the pass catching game his sophomore year. He had thirty one receptions, he had thirteen the following year. So he has that in his profile. So it's it was a little bit disappointing for Ingram. Like we had the same thought on her and shout outs trace McSorley, he was drafted as the backup quarterback. And I just gotta say like, congratulations because you became an NFL quarterback. I can't I can't believe it. I mean, I can't all you know, the last couple of years. I mean, I it. But it's true. I'm giving him a shout-out. I'm congratulate I don't think he would like is an NFL quarterback. And I'm a may. I mean, good for you. My believe you were mixed sorely mistaken. That's what he'll say. But when he gets done with you the last two years look at saquon film. And look at a mile senators film half of my notes are just being their quarterback sucks. Wow. Or college in general and that he was drafted. All right. We got to start flying the Bengals winners losers from the draft for the Cincinnati Bengals. They spent the first two picks offense of tackle. And at tight end. Look Joe mixing got help up front. Excellent. Andy Dong got help up front and the wide receiver core got no competition. So guys like, obviously, you already knew AJ bring was AJ. Green was locked and loaded, but looks like you can have real opportunity for the incumbents. Yep. Yeah. I actually think I know that they took a quarterback in the fourth round Ryan Finley. But I still see Andy Dalton as a winter because similar to their car. There were a lot of sharing a modem. Yes. The draft. They were both worried about the diarrhea sweats. And yeah, I mean, you didn't get one of the big name quarterbacks going. There is going to challenge this year for a starting spot. My only. User from the draft. Would it be geo Bernard in you're talking long-term of him being Cincinnati Bengal took two running backs in the six round. Both guys who Trayvon Williams has prolific production. Rodney Anderson surely would have been higher draft pick had were not for his very massive injury history. But between those two guys I think they can they they will have their backup for the future. And speaking of the wide receiver core not addressed in the draft. They did sign Brask wide receiver Stanley Morgan who also runs an investment for. Yeah. But he is very fiscally responsible. He's getting me quality five percent returns. My Muny ladders are out of control. He he is one of the eight undrafted free agents that you need to pay attention to in twenty nineteen. You can go read the article on the website by Kyle editor in chief Stanley Morgan will be responsible with the targets thrown his way. That's what we know. Absolutely. No risk. I think. A Brooks on now. Oh, become something Stanley Morgan becomes something predicting the Cleveland Browns Helo. Let's let's go to the Browns. Not a pile of draft picks and nothing really invested on the offensive side of the football unless you're into place kickers. But hey. Koneohe Callaway doesn't get threatened by new wide receiver and they already had quite the offense. Now, Duke Johnson. Yeah. Duke Johnson is the winner slash loser. In his mind. But I think I think winter I mean, the fact that they do Johnson's wanting to get traded ever since cream hunt came to town and the Browns are like we have like real plans for you. We like we don't care you are part of our offense. You're literally said we don't quote this real Brooks. Yeah. It is pretty kitchen kitchens regarding the the trade requests from his player Duke, Cianci's said, quote, doesn't matter to me. Hey, wolf everytime. Brooks says he wants to be traded. I say the same thing does not or. Yeah. It would matter if you got mice rash Brooks. Yeah. I think Duke Johnson was a winner here. He's going to be incredibly undervalued this year in fantasy drafts. When I am late in my draft. I am picking up. Luke Johnson because really hundred percent. I I don't think a disgruntled third string running back is who I want the whole first half of the year. Yeah. Okay. He's going to be the second string. If you're in a PR at his face is going to look like this. That is true. But there's a lot of ugly very successful fantasy players. That's true. Shout out to Andrew luck. All right. What is her today? We are. So mean this Berg Steelers. I want no part of this. I'm lying. I'm dying Deontay Johnson. I got trace. He's got Andrew luck. You're up next. Mike what for the savage drive the bus? Oh, my normally goes Eric decker or tither? I'm about positively handsomeness. He's he has the he's the handsome missed. Yeah. He's got to talk about. Yes. Who's the best looking guy in the NFL right now? Mike, aren't you? Gotta think about you decker is gone. I know I mean I for. Yeah. Moving on see again, some Tom Mike. I will Jimmy G, right? Yeah. I mean, I was trying not to be basic. Yeah. It's li- default. You really can't argue with that face. All right. Let's talk about the Steelers. God Janta Johnson. The third round top of the third round. Benny Snell fourth round draft pick. I believe I said on this show. I thought that a somewhat high draft capital pick would be spent on a running back in Pittsburgh. And you are the fourth round for him. Perfect as somewhat high. If it had been v I would not have taken credit somewhat low. Do you read into it at all? Jason I read it in a into it for Jalen Samuel. I firmly think James Connor is a starter. I haven't we have enough history here where you know. I I've even read some articles from Pittsburgh that are saying, maybe they'll go to a to a committee approach, and I'm I don't buy that for one second. I I will wait until it happens before I will ever project that we have a ton of history of a workhorse role here for Mike Tomlin. It doesn't matter who it is how many people have replaced them when they're injured when they're suspended. It's always one guy up. But the thing is Benny Snell can be the next man up and succeed like he will become one of my favorite handcuffs because I mean, I said this prior to the draft. He's good. He's really good. I know he gets made fun of because his last name is Snell. And he ran a four six six little to his nails. Yeah. I get it. But it's like he's actually above those. Those types. Yeah. This. He's got a great smile. Great smart. Does have a great smile. And in the the reality is any Benny smile. Lemme Abell ran a four six. Okay. I think I think Benny Snell is a very good back and very good handcuffed backup. Good back. He is a backup. So I'm only I think the loser. Here's not James Connors is more. Jalen samuel. You've talked about them liking Jalen CENA. I've talked about them liking Jalen Samuel in the past. Yeah. In the past when he was the starter because whoever is the starter. They're going to like get into Jalen Samuels lose the s at the end of his name. When I started saying, okay. When Saint Jude's took the SOL, we took it away from everybody. Yes. All right. The AFC. Oh, no. You can't move on winners and losers ever talk wide receivers because they drafted Deontay Johnson. At the very beginning of the third round. They brought in Dante Moncrieff on a two year deal over the off season. I know you needed guys. But like Ryan Switzer's, there Rogers is still there. Those are the guys that lose the most value to me is it it's Washington. No an teams to take these guys a little bit of time. They end up great in Pittsburgh. But not everyone has started their career on fire. Deonte Johnson to me indicts. The Ryan Switzer Eli Roger situation. Moncrieff gotta roll James Washington. He may sit in the background. He may not have the opportunities that we thought he was going to have. But that was the case when they brought in Moncrieff that wasn't necessarily changing in my mind when they brought in deonte Johnson. I don't know if you guys disagree. I agree for the most part what you're saying. James Washington is a loser from the draft. But that doesn't he I preferred him prior to them having the onto Johnson. But I don't think that that's the whole picture. He you know, he can still succeed. I don't think he's just left for dead. But it's obviously not good. When you go out and sign another player who's heating for your opportunity and Vance McDonald locked in. Yeah, they didn't go in and grab a high draft capital right in the Houston. Texans winners and losers for Houston. What do you think? Lamar Miller every year. What is dead cannot die every single year? He just comes out on top. It says, oh, I got that big contract. I am born. I mean, I it's impressive to me and Lamar Miller. You know for years he used to be my guy, and I just thought oh, he's done. He's never going to be done member last season. When he had the next Frank gore. Absolute monsters game broke the two long touchdowns in one game. And you said to yourself who is it. Yeah. And and you know, I I would say that, you know, it's not just Lamar Miller Dion to form. And I he's coming off the achilles. What about devante form? What's devante four days? But the oughta foreman. Oh, I thought you said Janta. Yes. What did I say? Oh, man foreman. What about this? Incorrect. Name thought about that. I thought that will fullest. Not wide receiver get better or worse. I thought I was correcting on say, no. But yeah, I I think Forman is a is a winner as you will get your name pronounced correctly. When you are fully recovered. There you go both running backs. It's a good situation for them. Willfuller? Good situation Yankee cutesy good situation. And and Watson. I mean. They upgraded the offensive line. After seeing Watson get the crap kicked out of him. So he's a winner as well. All right. The Indianapolis Colts. They drafted the rock with the first pick. Thoughts. I would love to get Johnson on my team. But the rock is a cornerback out of temple. So they they're I investment on offense was Paris Campbell in the second round. I love it you guys both liked Paris Campbell. I think he will flash here. I do not think he will flash. All the time. I have not been in love with paranoid. I'm yeah. I'm the only one who likes him with feeling. Yeah. I mean, I'm fine with them. And I actually this is a good friend who luck. I mean, a good spot for him. It's great for Andrew luck. This is I mean, you've you've got two guys now on this roster that have lightning speed that's gonna open things up for Campbell to take those short screens like it did at Ohio State and be able to do a lot in the in the yak category. So I really like it for Indianapolis. I like it for Andrew luck. I don't personally think it takes anything like I don't see Pierce Campbell coming in as a big loser for Devin funchess. I think that they are very different roles still Chester Rogers, C C, Chester Rogers. I have Zac PASCAL. Those guys have. I've been destroyed by Devon Devon punches Paris Campbell and T Y Hilton, Paris and Hilton. Yeah. We just we just talked about as being above jokes. Oh that wasn't a joke. I'm just talking about pair Sylvan pairs of Hilton. We'll be we'll be I think offense is great. And because the offense is going to be better. And they didn't bring in competition. We talked about Marla MAC Marla MAC is by mile the biggest winner for the cult. Yes. I agree. He goes from this fringe guy that if he gets the opportunity would be good. But you can't really be confident in to someone that I'm saying I'm drafting a lot of Marla Macktaz. He's been the answer to the who wants to be a millionaire question of who the starting running back on an Andrew luck offense was but you haven't been able to lock the answer in until now. Now, you can lock it in. They brought in Spencer aware, they didn't draft anybody. Final answer final answer Marlin match. Sure. Jacksonville drafting my Jason's favor. Divas a player Josh Allen in the first round Jacksonville. Also. Oh invested on that offensive line yelp wanted for net for nets a winner. John Taylor falling as far as he did. I mean, I didn't see a mock draft where he went lower than the twelfth pick. And he falls to the third pick in the second round to Jacksonville that is huge. This offense of line is very underrated for Jacksonville. That's why I think Leonard fournette I have him down as giant winner. Because that offensive line is going to be great. And he has a quarterback. Now that is not going to have other teams at least right off the bat saying you do it. You know, they're stacking the box against nine. Did you take the over under on the eight wins for Jacksonville? I took the under. I will take the over. I took the over. I took the over for Jacksonville. I think they're going to have a bounce back year some stability on offense mixed with a defense that is capable of giving you top five performances. I think will be pretty impressive this season require Armstead. Is he the new handcuff for Leonard fournette? We'll see. Yeah. I mean, he is. So they took him as a running back big another big. Boy, they throw around very early in the fifth, but that's still pretty late. He was not one of the earlier running back strap. So I think this is just a depth peace. Whenever you've got Alfred blue as your backup you need help. And they got some all right. The Tennessee titans. Tennessee titans took AJ Brown in the second round of the draft. The big offense ad. They did sign. Alex barnes. Mike's combine hero. There. I liked him before the combined. Thank you very much. Let's combine here. He me lead the entire ROY back class in say interests. That's what I don't want. You to think is that just like oh look at Barnes. No that the combine reinforced your love of Barnes. Yes. Which was then dean forced every pass on his in out existence. All right leaning spots for wide receivers. They could be better once freight Jay Brown. However, if you're sitting here right now, let's see your inner dynasty drafter and redraft league AJ Brown or Corey Davis edgy Brown in both situations. AJ brown. I'm Corey davises dead to me, I would take core. Davis over AJ Brown. I would want neither. I mean. I think this is a really bad situation. It's good for SMARI. I've had enough putting dollars into that slot machine. The pass on the pay. You've had enough dollars putting into the court Davis slot machine. What the reality is is you've had too many dollars spent on the Tennessee titans, Marcus mariota slot machine. And now you're going to take those targets, and you're going to divide it up because this isn't going away. They're saying we need more weapons. So and other adding to it, and you're splitting I think. Both are going to be hard pressed to be valuable for fantasy. I I want nothing to do with either guy. I mean, and I'm free riding in. This is a nine and seventeen last year as it gets hopefully, a healthy, Marcus mariota back ads. AJ Brown to the offense. There are Kennedy. They figured something out and they want to run run run. It'd be a surprisingly good team might not mean great things for fantasy. Well said that's exactly what I agree with. All right. 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Folesmania Ends as Favorites Romp in NFL Conference Semifinals | The Monday Morning NFL Podcast

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Folesmania Ends as Favorites Romp in NFL Conference Semifinals | The Monday Morning NFL Podcast

"Oh baby is over. No, more underdogs all the home team. Or in command began were breaking down everything that happened in the four game. Plus offseason ahead eagles, including fold future the Cowboys and their many upcoming decisions as well. As the tap revolt and charters it's all on the m Huby Monday morning NFL podcasts. Hello, and welcome Jim Yemen. QB NFL, Monday morning podcast. I am Gary gramling ease. Andy annoyed. We are coming off the games that precede the conference finals, which are forced the conference semifinal games. We had four room this weekend ended with a real good one. Even if the first three were were a bit of snooze IRS. But we're going to talk about this games. We're going to talk about the off season look heads for the teams that were eliminated this weekend. And we are going to have a great show. Well, I hope so because this divisional round we're gonna talk Sumer opening with saints and eagles because I was by far the best game. And then the other three games you basically can sum up. Great team played good team in great team beat the crap out a good team. Yeah. There wasn't a whole lot in the in the upset department here this eagles game. And we're going to go. We're going to go backwards chronologically here. We're gonna start with the the last game of the weekend. Which was the saints victory over the eagles, and what will work back but started with the saints game. This is like a reverse Nick foles game. The eagles ended it shaky and they started it with a florist, and it wasn't enough on the road as well as as well as this. Early game went for them. And and it's impressive as run has been for them or the last couple of years. It's a it's over. They were they were just not the better team. No, they weren't in even though the eagles lead early in the early got your tension. If you're a saints fan, no moisture in about that. But once the saints got rolling, they got a real feel for Philadelphia's cover three and as we suspected Gary the eagles stayed in cover three all gain. They did not get man to man stuff that they did back in week eleven at New Orleans. So yeah. Once once the saints got a feel for that the saints were in such command of the game it almost almost feel like they were blowing out the eagles in the second half. And when Philly was driving down six, I I was a little bit out of my body experiencing man. There's no way the eagles can win this game. Because it just felt so even though this one was close this felt like the fourth blow out to me. I thought the saints were clearly the best team and it was evident on both sides of the ball. They. They had that eighteen play ninety two yard drive that took eleven and a half minutes in the third quarter. And a lot of that was the pattern was put taste hill on the field pickup holding penalty and get backed up, and then just pick up the first down that happened at least twice maybe three times. I don't I don't think it tastes hill play. But another time or the picked up a penalty and behind the sticks. And then they just they went and got it. And that just felt like derive if the field was three hundred yards long that was going to be a touchdown drive. Yeah. They were just going to expire the game. If it was three hundred yards long. They were just in total command. The only thing that was real Megan that stood out. I think what contributed to the way that drive on folded is drew Brees does not have much juice on vertical. He can't push. That's why we thought the eagles might keep their free safety down. Shallow make the same speed over the top. And we saw right away. Breeze. Can't beat you over the top LeBlanc. Read an excellent night. Head that interception to open the game. But the still got the feel for what Philadelphia was doing. And they were glad to work the under underneath an intermediate games. They're real look Michael Thomas to aren't they Gary that guy can move the chains as well as any receiver. I've seen. Absolutely. And look when you think about it. Yes, Alvin Kamara is is very talented as a as a receiver. I'm Michael Thomas is the way they scheme home open and the way he gets open constantly is pretty exceptional considering they really don't have anyone else who you would even consider devoting a second offender too. Yeah. He's really good at what they call stemming your routh initial steps in your route, that's your stem. That's a big deal for how you set. Yup. Defenders his what was it? Third down in sixteen. I think it was third and something like that. We're at the twenty yard catch. It was at the end of that drive. You talked about and by the way that ninety two yard drive. They gained one hundred twelve yards on the dry because of all the penalties. I wonder how many hundred plus yard drives we've had in the NFL postseason history. But that in breaking route, which he killed them on all night long to cap at the near the end of that dry was really illustrative of what Thomas brings to the table. And why he's so good. He set up his defenders sets up as defenders exceptionally. Well, and the other thing this saints do is they leverage the underneath defenders Thomas and chimera at time. So Thomas is route will impact the linebackers and then chimera runs underneath them. Or sometimes it works vice versa. They're very good at doing that. And obviously Brees is good at reading that. And if you're going to be predictable. Philadelphia was then your password has to get home and change the the makeup in the landscape of the game that way in the eagle. Pass rush aside from a few flashes tonight. It really didn't do that. That's a good saints offense of line. And of course, last time they they met was when the eagles played a little bit of mandate. They doubled Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara and yet trick on Smith Eddie a ten catch hundred fifty hundred seven yard game in that one. And this one was almost closer. So I guess the eagles. You would say the the adjustment was correct. From a from sort of a global standpoint on that. Yeah. This the this eagles team they they came out fast. I was kind of hoping we'd see a lot more of. I I don't know exactly what the splits ended up being. I thought it was a golden Tate type of game. I if you're gonna bring a golden Tate, I think PJ Williams is the guy you go after in that in that Saint secondary. You want him on the field. And they did they got him on that Jordan Mathews touchdown to start the game. But. Yeah. I don't know they they had no semblance of an offense between their their opening to touchdown Rives. And then really that that final drive that of course, ended with the ball slipping through Sean Jeffries hands and into martial night Amores stomach. Yeah. This is what we were talking about when we said that the eagles do not match up as well to the saints as they did to the bears even though the bears better defense. The bears are a zone defense in the saints really felt like this game we need to see the all twenty two. But felt like there's a lot of matchup elements a lot of to man or coverages that played out like man-to-man Lattimore traveled with Jeffrey all night long. It wasn't just a second half. He traveled with them in the first half as well. It's great snaps with them in the second half. But there was a real active energy in the service to the way. The saints were playing coverage on the back end fulls, quite frankly, Gary who I have come to really admire without good. He is at throwing with bodies around. Him. He was not very accurate in the second half. He wasn't the same thrower in quarters three and four. Yeah. The eagles disjointed overall Charles Davis had made the point a couple of times during the telecast of saints getting up and disrupting these the these routes early on boy. Not too early. By the way, you lie. Apple got caught playing off one of those golden Tate catches early in the game the slot route out route for twelve yards. So yeah, that press coverage is a big deal Phillies. Not very fast you can press. Those wide receivers. You're not going to get beat over the top by him. This got real Harry at the end eight. I don't know it. It was fun to imagine. What was going to happen there? Second ten they have the ball on the saints twenty-seven with two minutes ago. But that's it. I mean, hey, a break goes against Nick foles ear and the saints move on and E L. I if they started this game they need to knock a little bit a rust off early on. And that's what attribute to slow start. After basically the two week by they got it out of the way now. And now they host the Rams next week in another rematch. Another really not just to rematch of really good games coming up. I you know, I and not just good gains midseason gains, which means these teams have evolved a little bit in some subtle ways. Since when they last met this is intriguing a championship round as you can get top for offense is still standing too, by the way. Yeah. That was a bit of a theme as we'll go through the show. Everyone was kind of thinking. Well, it is this is this offense crazy season going to end with defenses. Ruling it it did not spoiler. If you missed the games this week. End. That's not how it went down. Let's before we move onto the to next game. Let's talk about the eagles season. Look at real quick. And really I I mean, look Nick foles Nick foles has a mutual option. The assumption is that he will move on. And you'd have to think one of these teams looking for. A starter. Short term is going to pick up Nick foles. And I guess my question to you. Andy is how much would you trust him as as sort of a long-term guy? Would you look at him? It's it's a not very good draft class coming out for quarterbacks, and you know, there probably five or six teams who could use a guy for the next say at least three to five years. Perhaps I think I think it's what this is just a king sized case keenum situation, and what we saw last year, and maybe foles gets a deal similar to Kim's with a little bit better money. And it's probably a team like Denver might even be Denver. Who knows? But a team that's on that eight cuss. But thinks he might be pretty good on one side of the ball. That's who would take the chance on Nichols. The other thing to consider Gary is. There's nothing wrong. I mean, there's something wrong. But it's not it's not there's no shame in being one of the greatest backups of all time, which might be what falls still is. And I'm sure someone will give him a chance as the starter. But if he doesn't do well, Nick sees his value, then becomes as a journeyman backup in the best of ways. Which again that might be what he already is. Yeah. Oh, that was a lot of fun. Fulls thing was fun while it lasted, and let's see what what happens going forward here. Would you? Would you give him if I throughout like three years fifty seven million or maybe two years in thirty years kind of like an option would you do it? How's my cap situation? Otherwise, I mean. Even after the deal, it's fine because you're not paying a quarterback. I probably do obviously depends who I have around me. But I'd probably do it. I would have to have a system that gets the ball out quickly. Because fulls he's always going to be physically methodical player. That's just the way he's constructed. But he's no long earliest career. He was also mentally methodical at times. He's no longer like that he now thinks the game quickly. And so he plays quicker than he appears to play. And that's why he's so hard to sack. So if I had a system that was conducive to that. And Philadelphia's is conducive to that. Obviously. If I if I believed my coach could do that. I would then I I would pay Nick foles, but I've got to have a good team around. I'm not paying them just to get me to seven and nine I'm paying again to get me the tenant six, and maybe I can ride a defense or something. Once we've reached a postseason. It's that kind of team. That's why I think a Denver time team is what would make the most sense for Nick foles, right? Real quick note for move on. On Andy Nye have three more coach hirings to go. We talked about a bunch of them on the Thursday show last week. And you just go to the end of that show. Listen to him instead of listening realistic to the preview of these games. But Adam gays Zack Taylor and Brian floor. As the latter two are reported. They're not official yet. But we will talk about those hirings on the Thursday, deep dive show because we only have two games ago here. So. Coaches will also have a slightly bigger mailbag than we usually do on Thursday. So send those questions in talk back at the MTV dot com. You can tweet them to us. You get Facebook to us can mail them to us. Just get him to us. We'll take plenty of questions. Patriots. Chargers. Look this was. We talked about the keep seven defensive backs on the field. Do you play? You're not very good linebackers. There really was no good answer for the charge. I know a lot of people are out there saying, oh, I can't believe they kept on playing seven defensive backs. And I haven't seen the exact split. So I'm sort of going anecdotally off of a I tried to keep an eye out for when Kyla manual and or Hayes pulled was on the field for the chargers. But they kinda gets they got seem old when they had five defensive axon and those linebackers on. So I this was just not it was just not going to happen today. Correct. It was not going to happen. The chargers they had those two linebackers on the field at times wouldn't do England was in two tight ends with Dwayne Allen doing tight ends. He's run blocker. Of course, gronkowski was phenomenal run blocking today's. So that was they treated that as base when the patriots went to twenty one with Devlin on the field. There were snaps a lot of snaps with the chargers stayed in their dime, which we thought maybe they might do. Remember that gear we talked about might keep Adrian Phillips in. But I'm not keeping seventy and you gotta have a manual out there at least have some girth. None of it mattered the patriots steamrolled him. Anyway, the patriots line was winning Devlin continued to look good as a fullback, but the part of this whole equation that we forgot we got. So caught up in the chargers say seven you run the ball on them. We forgot New England's also very good at throwing the ball. And Tom Brady is good at throwing the ball. And these guys are well coach in the scheme is good. And you're a predictable defense, especially when you're in seven db. You're not going to be doing a lot of new stuff. When you're playing safeties at linebacker spot. You're going to be doing the basic stuff because that's how you can cross pollinate at your positions like that. Well, predictable zone coverage against Tom Brady. We've seen that before. Especially in the playoffs asked the Steelers few years ago. How that goes that to me was what decided this game is New England came out in the Levin personnel won back one tied in three wide receivers. And they did whatever they wanted through the air did. And look this was not this is not downfield stuff. I mean, this was this was a ton of James white a ton of Juliet Allman and defense that could not get off the field at any point patriots end up going only seven for fourteen on third down. It felt like a lot more but four hundred ninety eight yards hundred fifty five on the ground three forty three through the air. Now, this was a this was a shellacking ear for the most part. And now, I guess let's talk about. The the other side of the ball briefly year, which kind of goes into next week. When when the patriots go to aero head to play the chiefs, but lot zero blitz looks from the patriots or certainly a lot more than you would have expected from this defense we set on that Thursday show. What you wanna do is get Philip rivers going late into the play clock when he starts getting antsy and clapping his hands and marking out there, and they had a couple of delay games. They had to burn some time outs. New England was getting them to do that. By showing those amoeba looks the same thing. The ravens did to the chargers. The patriots of done that before they're not quite the ravens in terms of aggressiveness. Even when it comes to just the pre snap phase. But they make you play that way. They make you have to read their fronts and make some decisions. What was different you said it gear they brought the pressure this time, and they did go covers zero they did it early in the game, which I think was partly to get to get rivers to speed up mentally and start at counting for that. And thinking they might become an you want. To play fast. What the patriots do when they go covers zero. The almost always drop one guy from the middle out late. And usually it's van noy. So it's a cover zero blitz until your protection occurs, and you start blocking people then somebody peels back in the reason they do that is because most teams will throw hot against cover zeros little short slant routes. Well, you take those away. And so now it's covers your and your force in the DA the offense to throw the ball downfield. And that's what the patriots did rivers targeted. Mike williams. That's his big target. Throw it up to that guy. And it did not work. The patriots won the coverage won the defensive pressure. One yet that first charter such that tied the game at seven early shades of early last year where the patriots had some some issues on the back end. I guess I was less miscommunication and see more seven Gilmore looked like he he recognized something on that play. And then it was a double move. And that was that was. Is it? But I think that was even after that touchdown. It was kind of like all right? Well, if they score on every drive, though, hang around today. Yeah. Because it did feel early on like they're not going to New England gonna do what they want. They're not going to stop New England. Maybe they can get some field goals force them to some field goals in the red zone, which they didn't do that either. But this was a patriots game. All the way I want to ask you something before we get off these Sunday games and onto the Saturday games. 'cause you watch these games late. Today's I understand it. Correct. You have my little boy's birthday party that tend to I wanna know I wanted to know what your day was scheduled like specifically my sons, I didn't just a random child's birthday party. That would that would be pretty good weekend. I will say this Andy the place the venue. We had at was this indoor soccer place. He. He has he has been going to. So he's he's a toddler. He's he rears old. That's where he wanted a playscape there. And and it was it was a fun party. But they had ATV. They're one of the dads want to watch the game. So the game was on the TV. I asked them that they mute it. And the guy the guy was probably like eighteen years old. But the young man, very nice young man said we can't it just whatever's on the TV comes through the speakers. So I kind of tried to be among the kids the screaming kids as much as possible to drown out Kevin Burkhardt and Charles Davis during the late game. And then. Those guys there are very good, by the way, as it were very we had opposite. The TV there's a it's like all giant window. So then you also had the reflection in the window of the TV. So basically I had to discipline myself for two hours. I did not lift my I level above like, you know, basically what I level for me. Like, you know, I'm five nine. So I did not look up at all. And I manage to I managed to avoid anything. It was during the late game though. I didn't hear a lot of crowd noise. So I kind of feeling when I turned on the game tonight that the eagles stuck around early. Okay. Well, that's that's this gets into a fascinating discussion on spoilers and all the ways it can happen. It's not just hearing the score. Because you and myself we watch so much football your long any kind of information provides a flood of other information that serves to spoil. So your point about the crowd noise. You're just on a stupid football. Observer? That's what happens I as, you know, watch these on DVR. And so I went for a run tonight in the hills by my house during the saints eagles game. And I feel pretty confident doing that. You're not gonna get a lot of people out there out in the middle of these western think of breaking bad the scenery there. That's kind of what it's like where we live. It's not quite that deserty. But it's it's I'm out west here. You're not gonna get someone on those trails going forty five twelve eagles are up or something like that. It's not. So I went to the gym yesterday during the first game. And it's the only time I've worn headphones at the gym. I went in and I kept my eyes down because I know. The exercise bikes have TV's on him. That's the risk. I wanted to lift some weights but a few years ago on the ravens top Texans playoff game. This is what MRs several years ago now. But I was in the gym when they were playing I was risking going. I was not sure I should brisk. It. I'm doing my crunches, and they little Matt tiny dark Matt room of his nothing in there as some guy walks by his Chris thirteen to ten and I said every little cuss word in my head that I could think of and I invented some even that day. Well, when I got back home. So I'm watching I just hope they get to thirteen to ten as soon as possible because what what happens in all you do is watch a game thing. And how's it going to be thirteen? How's it going to be ten? What's about to happen? Well, it turns out the guy that was walking down the high guests. He was saying the scored like a pickup game that was going on in the basketball gym or something because it came never got thirteen to ten. It wasn't the Texans ravens game. But it didn't matter because I believed it was going to be third. Ten and so I still watch the game through that tinted view. Yeah. And and that ruins the game. So like Robert clip go on our staff who likes to send false spoilers you'll see hawks one. When actually the Niners won. And he thinks he's being funny. And then when the Niners when he says, why didn't spoil I told you the Seahawks. It does any kind of information ruins of Ewing experience. That's the that's the big takeaway. So you've got to hear nothing when you put these games VR because if you think, you know, a score you think, you know result. I mean, if you know the result of game it's ruined. But if you need a score, you're just you're kind of just eager to get to the point. Where is that score? And then you say okay, now, I'm now I'm watching the fresh is correct. Correct. And it's I'm going to watch his games on TV because you don't see as much on TV. So if I'm watching them I want to not know the score because you do get a different feel for the game. When you don't know the scores at one thing about watching film is you don't. You don't you do know the outcome. So you don't have any of that momentum cliff hanger stuff, and it does feel different. That's why I like watching college film in the off season. Like the Stanford North Carolina sun bowl a few years ago. I would watch and some would Trubisky and with Solomon Solomon game. Yeah. Yep. I watch a game a few times, I didn't know who want. So at the end of the film study. I was on the edge of my seat because that went down into the tight red zone and actually Solomon Toma sack. Mitchell trubisky. If I if I recall correctly so that was the best game. I ever saw film was didn't know what happened in. It was good game. B I recommend anyone watch football eighty annoyed style. I did it for day that was enough. Now last question, then we'll get onto what people are actually listening to this show for analysis. Those who are left is did you fast forward the special teams? I did. Trying to watch any of them. I feel you felt like you gain. Didn't you felt smart a little bit? I guess not really though when I saw I know I was like do. I wanna miss Kamara returning returning kicks here. I just went ahead. And did it nothing makes you feel smarter than fast forwarding special teams seeing along return of seeing the little yellow flag signed and the upper Kornaic. Yep. That's every time every time anything good on special teams comes back on penalty. That's the main reason I don't watch it. I regret admitting that. Yeah, you're coming over. Of quick look Ed for the chargers. This is actually I mean, this is this is fairly simple. I don't think they really, you know, they they want to address their interior offensive line. I would assume I don't thinking really trust forest lamp at this point with the injuries issues. He's had the last couple of years, and I don't know, I guess depth at linebacker. They're necessarily not deep at linebacker, Denzel Perryman of free agent. But they they don't have a whole lot of guys they have to they have to move on here. They don't they've got some detached in need to re-sign Damian square their backup. Darius Filon another really good backup. And then Brandon me Bain who played today, and that was admirable of those guys are all going to be free agents. So if you're not going to retain them, then that's probably where you're drafting Adrian Phillips. Also, a free agent assume he'll be a priority to resign him. Now. You gotta find a new dime. Linebacker and look maybe they'll find something Adrian Phillips. He's a good player. But teams went after him a little bit late this year in New England had some play action over routes that attacked him by design and they worked. So I don't know. Maybe maybe they'd be fine replacing him because the whole reason he's in there is to defend play action. That's the main benefit of having a safety down at linebacker and Phillips down the stretch this year, he was great. Most of the time. Fact, he was really great last week that was a big deal against Baltimore. But he had five or six. Slip-ups as well that he paid a price for so it'd be interesting to see if they if they deem that a successful campaign or not for him. What the expectations are there. Now say they don't necessarily need tyrel Williams. I'm sure they love that back, but he'd be interesting. He's always been a very impressive physical specimen who sort of came into his own a little bit. And he is in unrestricted free agent. So we'll see we'll see what his situation is. Let's go back to Saturday night. The Rams Cowboys game. Look that the story this game. I wonder this allowed when we did the Thursday show that Rams offensive line would be up to the task after a shaky run late in the season. And then kinda you know cardinals forty Niners game. And no one really gets too worked up about the performance is there, but they were they were dominant in this game. I mean, they that's where they beat the Cowboys. And that's why this offense felt like the Rams offense like September. Knock. Hct is a great performance and something did you see what Austin polite said after the game? They're right guard for the Rams, I saw Robert clump go wrote about it. I was technically on vacation this week. But I did watch the games. And now, I'm bog your awhile vacation Dern division around. Interesting timing. Interesting to my. I was on vacation yet. I wrote a column I edited to pieces and now I'm I'm doing the podcast. But yeah, I I saw Robert wrote wrote a piece on it. I did not see this civic quotes, though. I guess what? Blights, and I didn't eat it. But I've heard read foster pointed this out one of our research interns. He. I guess blight said that they had a feel. They knew what was coming from Dallas defensive line slants, which is the whole foundation of Dallas d he said they knew about ninety percent of them. What was coming because they had all kinds of tips and tells that's coaching right there. That's the air in chrome or effect. He's the Rams oh Lang coach Shane Waldron's or run game coordinator, he prayed something to do with it. And I bet you anything Sean McVeigh had something to do with it. Because one of these things that these assistance marvel at with McVeigh is how he picks up on the type of details that only a position only position coach is expected to pick up on. This was a this is a great night for the Rams. I don't know how to sum it up. I mean. Like the team that they were in September. When everyone thought they might run the able. Well, they're all lying never became an issue in pass protection because their success through the air came on first and second down the Rams were all that outside zone stuff. And those are such slower developing play actions as well that by the time Gough turns around ready to throw his receivers are well down field. That's why Brandin cooks valuable net scheme because you can get to that eighteen yard depth, really quickly Robert woods officiant on routes. As also why they run out of those tight formations because those receivers can then get on their crossing routes further down field if they're beginning the route tighter inside rather than having across the entire field. So it's a really it's a deeper deeper play action game than most teams run because it's a slower play action game early on in the fake hand off part. That's a good point. And it is just phenomenal. Watching the way. After the fake goff's pack foot hits. And and it's almost like, it's almost amazing. I it's like he doesn't have time to to actually recognize anything downfield. He just knows he knows where everything's gonna be. And and the balls just out immediately. Maybe maybe they're cheating there and that helmet still on someone in the booth overhead or McVay on this. Maybe there's maybe they're Tele they were gonna experiment with that in the Canadian Football League. I think it was a Canadian Football League having the helmet communication there. All the time. But open on interesting Goff is when he knows entrust the desire always knows the design, but when he trusted it will work. He's just about as good as any as anybody in the NFL at anticipation passing. It's when he has to read stuff and make us call it off schedule decisions or plan b decisions. That's where he becomes inconsistent. He's not the most he's a great passer. But he's a little bit mechanical as a pastor. He's got. Longer delivery. And so it's not quick and twitchy. So he's going to be a little bit more inconsistent. Because the longer it takes you to throw the more chances of something Bill when wrong when you're throwing. But when he's able to throw on schedule he is really really really good and CJ Anderson. Nice have fresh legs this time of year type early looked perfectly healthy, although might might have been spelled more often than he normally would have because at the layoff. But. Yeah. There you go Ramlet. Good cowboys. I mean, this if the couch we're going to run into an elite team, I think we can agree that the Cowboys are probably on that second tier in the probably not going to to win a postseason game against a team that is playing like the Rams played on on Saturday night. But yeah, I don't know this game. Did not did not. I know is a one possession game in the end. It did not feel that close at any. Yeah. It didn't. And the last night. I know we haven't talked del offense here. But really they run through Zeke Elliot and the Rams were just good enough in run defense effect better than just good enough. They played very well. And it's interesting Inc. Wade Phillips believes that they can do that when they put their mind to it. They can be a run defending team. So far looks like he's right about that. The last interesting note though, this game was when Dallas was down one possession and it's late in the game. And it's a crucial drive, and they know the Rams are running the ball. It was Sean Lee on the field not late in van deresh. And that makes you wanna resell Christmas chard chewing out Vander on the sidelines. There wasn't just vanished. But it was a big part of it makes you wonder if the if maybe that was some of the issue that the young rookie. We said I think McVeigh is going to go after those young linebackers, and I think he got him that night. I think the Cowboys played slow and we're not quite ready for all the subtle things. We're going to have to see at the linebacker position. Eight was a tough Saturday for great young linebackers was. There. Jerry's Leonard transition coming up. I sense very soon. Not quite because we do have to do the Cowboys look at. But it was great coaches seeing a great young linebackers and saying we can we can get these guys and they did quick Cowboys look at here. It's it's just it's interesting. The the in the past couple years had a lot of dead money on their cap almost all that is often this one so they do have a little more capital than it had in the past. They have a decision to make on Sean Lee. I would assume they move on. They can save seven million by moving on. I think is as wonderful as he's been as great. It would be to have him as a mentor slash. You know, insurance policy. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to to pay him ten million dollars to keep in here. What what's interesting about this team, though is so you have DeMarcus Lawrence and free agency this year, he played on the tag this year extensions possible. Four Dak Prescott. Jalen Smith, Amari Cooper, Byron Jones and Lyle Collins among others so decisions to make here big decisions to make. And I think all of those guys you're going to want to have them back aren't sure I mean, those some big names that you just put out there. That's the plus side of drafting, well, I suppose is yet to make those decisions on extensions. But Prescott will be the interesting one. Of course. And I would kick that can't down the road as much as I can. We can have that discussion one hundred we after you will have it. Right. We will have it a lot. We will do you. And I will try to structure a contr. Act here for Prescott. I think. Yeah. We'll talk about it. It's on. I still think there is enough of a sort of residual, you know, market popularity. Sort of advantage for Dak Prescott where they can get him on a fairly team friendly deal. Not a totally team friendly deal, but a fairly team friendly deal that sort of makes it easier to to stomach this. Because look he's he's a guy. He's been a great asset as a guy making like six hundred thousand dollars, and it all becomes different when that number goes into the twenty million or whatever it will be. Let's go to chiefs colts for now though, the chiefs jumped on them early. I mean, this was. Everything we thought was wrong with the chiefs defensively. This was a complete domination and everything we thought it would go well for the colts defensively did not go. Well, I guess I'll just mentioned early on. Because the colts the way they started this game. -fensive -ly kind of reminded me of when they won in Houston a couple of weeks ago that you know, they went three and out to start because a yet an Eric Brown drop on on a short third down and a couple of weeks ago in Houston. They just turn it on. And they just started throwing it all over the place on a on a secondary. That wasn't very good. And I was kind of waiting for that to click, and maybe it felt a little bit like at the end of the second or at the end of the first half. But after that, I mean, they they did nothing. I mean, this was a very good performance by this chiefs defense. Yeah. That's the problem. I picked a colts to win this game. I did not know the chiefs defense would all the sudden become the two thousand Baltimore Ravens where you just don't do anything against them. And it's just three and out three and out three now three and out with one forty left in the first half. The colts had run twelve plays zero first downs. Twenty one yards. They were down twenty four to seven amazing. They are only down seventeen at that point. That's one forty to go in the half. Now. Some of that is their own defense was not getting off the field. Patrick Mahomes, doing what he wanted the Chiesa running the ball, very, well, Damian Williams and other fresh legs guy to add to your your theory. Gary which I fully back fresh legs from tailback late in the years of big deal. So the colts couldn't get off the field their offense couldn't stay rhythmic had no chance to be on the field. And that's kind of hell this win. What gets lost in? It all is in the second half. Indianapolis defense. You could say it certainly kept the chiefs and check you say. Maybe even played the chiefs. But it didn't matter because that Kansas City defense they were worldbeaters on Saturday where did that power from? I had an ambiance because I don't look at home field in the road stuff a whole lot. I it's just not how I see football. I know it's a factor. I didn't realize Kansas City's defense was so much better at home than they were on the road. I'd just didn't. I didn't know that. They're not the only team. That's like that this year. The patriots a lot better on on at home than on the road to. Yeah. They they definitely been much better at home. The one thing as his game was getting underway, and you know, the snow would fall in. And I it kind of obviously tapered off as the game went on. But the sloppy field. You would figure really the only thing. Chiefs have going for him defensively is is those edge rushers. And if they're a step slow because of the the sloppy track. It seemed like it was going to be a long day for them. And it was it was the opposite. I mean d- Ford that was it was the way this game started and the way the saints game. Started with the craven LeBlanc making a really great interception. Where you kind of said, well, there's that's supposed to be the weakness. And and he made a play right off the bat and cheese. Kind of started the same way here with, you know, run kgab all right at D Ford, and he comes in and makes a play for three or loss. And then on the next play was Marlin MAC on the outside is a toss play and he cut it up. Way too soon, and he looked methodical and he didn't use his block the right way. And it's did not look like a Marla MAC run Marla MAC is one of the NFL's better pure runners, in my opinion. So I wrote in my notes I had light snowy conditions as going into the game. I type that. And then I put in parentheses it was evident right away that the field conditions. We're going to be an issue, but then the Knicks series came along and Sammy Watkins catches at thirty six yard slant and runs across the field as if his as if it's a track surface. And so I went and deleted the known just sit on light snowy conditions. I don't think it did become an issue. I don't know what got in the Marla MAC on that I play. But it wasn't an issue that chiefs did everything that they normally do. And by the way, haven't Sammy Watkins back at offense looks like it's got that much more juice. Now, he he played very, well, he looked fast. The one thing I wondered about this about this game. And the cheese obviously jumped out such a good start when Mahomes took the little. Injury. When you kinda was limping really heavily for a little bit. He did run for a touchdown after that. So I'm probably overrating this a bit. But I did kinda wanna see the colts go after him a little bit and make him move around and make him try to make one of those crazy plays. I really only remember them aside from like the Kenny more slot blitzes. I really remember one or two is one of them was on a third and long that force Mahomes to to throw hot he didn't try and extend the play, and you know, being a minimal gain and they had to punt. But I wouldn't mind seeing a little more than that from the colts. I mean, it's it's stupid to say now because obviously you you say would have done a lot of stuff different because they lost by a pretty significant margin. But yeah, I'd I'd be I would have been curious to see Mahomes have to move around on that knee, which maybe we find maybe it was just a bruise or was, but he was limping pretty heavily chew. So lying got the better. This matchup with. Colts de line big time. India does not have any eggs rushers. And that's been true all season. We thought it'd be a bigger deal. They've survived that remarkably and some of it's because they scheme their pass rush. Those Kenny more slob blitzes have been a big deal when they do that. They almost always do a stunt or twist inside of it. So you see the slot blitz coming. But then there are other defenders looping and crossing as well. It's a lot for an offense to process chiefs. Did a great job with that the colts pass which was a zero factor in the game. Yeah. And you made the point your extra point column, which people can check out sort of homes, Bella chick to peace. But. Collins worth they've made the point Mahomes was so good instructor with the the sort of RPO's in the quick strike type stuff. It's one such an advantage when you are winning ever instructor constantly a bit you routes or working you're the defense as being every time, but to I mean, you know, quick strike, you don't get a ton of guys in your way. Anyway. But I mean, this was I it was almost like you take the offensive line in the pass rush off the field and just hadn't played seven on seven. This was this was just easy pissing pitching catch for the first portion this game for homes. I love the way that that sentence ended right there, by the way, the old. The old urinate and catch. We will have that wasn't pretty good. I will say one thing. I do. I have no idea why this became my muscle memory when I type Pittsburgh when I type it. I always do and then I start typing, and it's I catch it now all the time. But when I worked at the paper in Hartford, I once let one slip through, and it it. Yeah. It wasn't good. Because like con and pit were like basketball rivals. Of course, a bunch of people wrote in line. You're you're talking smack. And it's like, no, I just my fingers don't work. I in smacktalk the only. The can of worms open when we were kids someone who does not a big basketball fan, but they didn't have to do this. They would call the Detroit, Pistons and Detroit piss stains. And it took me a few years to get that out of my head. I saw the pistons pistons, and it happened to be member when the pistons had those awkward uniforms under good Doug on the hill for the Grant Hill. Yep. Yeah. It happened to be during that time for what that's worth. So when they went back to the familiar pistons uniforms, it kind of became the pistons again, but for those aqua- uniform years they were pistons around my world the crew I rolled rolled with. That's that's quite true. Oh, we'll we'll aplenty on a on chiefs. And and patriots on the Thursday, deep dive show, and and hopefully homes can get some more of that that that pissing catch stuff going. Let's look ahead for the. Let's look for the colts though before before Andy loses it. We we talked about early in the season there. It's it's been a long weekend. So that the colts need, basically. Yes. More talent on defense. And that's still the case as well. As the defense played as we talked about. There's just no pass rush here. There might be a couple of guys available on the market. It's a really rich draft for a defensive front. Four talent not to mention they do have the second pick of the second round, which they picked up in the darnold. The jet straight up for darnold last year. So they'll have some those some chances to improve here. Interesting DeMarcus Lawrence somehow made it to the market how much the colts throw at him because I bet you Mattie bird flu wants to Marcus Lawrence coached him in Dallas. So you know to scheme fit they badly. Need an edge rusher? I be interesting. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence might become the highest paid defensive player of all time. If he reaches the market, although I guess the back it is a rich draft for Ed rushers this year too. So. We'll see we'll say it's it's less rich for edge rushers as it is for interior guys. Oh, is it? Okay. All right. Yeah. What's also interesting because of the seasons at Fletcher Cox hadn't especially Aaron Donald there's going to be a new value placed on interior pass rushers teams this year figured out defenses. Offenses learned it the hard way that a really good interior pass. Rusher is more destructive than a really good edge rusher, and we can get into all the reasons why. But the main one being they're closer to the ball inside is probably ten or twelve other important reasons, but I bet you because of what Aaron Donald did this year and deforest Buckner had a nice year and jarran Reed head double digit sack since I lot of detectives were really productive pass rushers this year that position value has it's going to inflate. That's going to be a very interesting off season with some these defensive line Dame's potentially coming on the market. We'll see how it goes. That's a yeah. We come to think of the week. Andy, do you have a thing of the week ready to go you better start because I know I do not I'll I'll start it. I'm. I'm coming around a little bit of taste some hill. I I still I don't love it. But obviously, you know, he made the the fake punt play which which kept their first scoring drive alive. And you know, if you if you buy them, I it was huge just the fact that they actually put points on the board at that point in the games at pundit away. Again, was huge. I still don't think I love him throwing the ball. But he threw a back on a hold that. He threw just a frozen rope up the seemed Alvin Kamara there, and it was just kind of funny seeing that on a night where drew Brees. Came up short on a couple of somewhat similar downfield throws seeing hill sort of a drop that one in very nicely. Was he was a little bit fun. It was in. I'm gonna just piggy back off your thing of the week. I think I am I am slowly coming around on tastes hill as well. But I've got such a long way to come around that I'm still behind you. I have not been a fan of that tastes hill package this year. Because if I'm at defense, I absolutely love seeing not playing quarterback and hill. It does a lot of things, but he doesn't none of them. Well, that's easy. Looks like a bad blocker looks like a a bad h back. I don't think he's as good as running numbers suggest at least early on. He was not he's gotten better. But let's give them credit there to his credit. He's gotten better in a lot of areas and throwing the balls probably one of them. So I might be behind you on that one. But with yet, tastes them hill. I'm not my mind is opened. It's got along. Ways to go. But it starting to open and it helps that he's better now than it was early in the season. Yeah. Well, that's that's going to be a rap for this show. We will be previewing the conference championships. And also token lavar coaching carousel and taking plenty of questions on the Thursday. Deep dive show so send those in for now. Thanks researchers read foster and Ryan Taylor making it sound smart. Thank you to producer, Shelby Royston and the guys at kings, thirteen mega sound good. 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Week 13 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Guice Guice Baby

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Week 13 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Guice Guice Baby

"Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you. You from Pristina Auction Dot Com studios with your hose. Andy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Right. Welcome in welcome into the show. Monday December second episode of the PODCAST. Any Mike and Jason. The fantasy footballers through another tumultuous weekend of Fantasy football the Monday night game this evening. Congratulations to those of you. Who made your fantasy playoffs? Yes congratulations to those of you. That will end up on the right side of the Hopkins. Watkins lateral debate It's so funny because I actually had text messages from friends this morning wanting to know. Oh well that you know that was a lateral. That's that's going to get corrected right. Oh no forward. Pass the tape and I'm like I'm really. I'm sorry to tell you this. But he let go of that ball at the six and he got it at the five and a quarter and a pass. I also the first time I saw the play. I thought that Hopkins had fumbled. Yeah he late he's getting. It looks like we're then Watson just happened to be there but it was an trubisky. That's how you run that play. They asked him after the game. You know they said hey you you know you did that in practice. How did it feel in the game compared to practice and he was just like well? I didn't get flipped over in practice so it was a little different. I also saw him say that when he looked at the you you know he saw it priests nappies like he knew he had to change it. And he's like no we're just GONNA go scored a touchdown. Yeah WANNA performance events by Houston last night. Yes you're upset. AFC playoff picture a little bit Super Close Game Twenty to twenty eight a ah very close yes the smell. The smell James Light going ham that last James White reception where nobody what he played the Texas like. Come on dude. The game is over. What are you doing James James? What are you doing? Stop you just running screaming that down the field. We've got the weekly rewind today. Start Muffin. stinkers of the week take our own reactions. Probably some insight on our own gut punches. That took place over the weekend in different leagues. Happy to say that we are playoff bound in. NFL League one. Yes in sleeper bowl. Yes the League Jude. We secured the spot of the playoffs. We we will be taking on atom rank Brown one. Yeah those playoffs actually start in week. Fifteen in the super bowl. We did secure the pie week. And a they ask for it and they deserve at a proper show two nil films the boys over there they are the number one seed in the superbowl. They haven't dominant team and they've been kicked. It was. Yeah hopefully we see them in the chain so that mean we're off next week before we face rank we just had that one critic. The play offs haven't started. We've already locked in so basically we have a bye week in both of those. Yeah so we're taking the show off now. Okay taking the week on this week to deal with my owned owned Missing the Dynasty League by six points on the season missing the League of record because of that Philip rivers interception. Two weeks. We're doing fine okay. Now we're doing so much food. Yeah we're doing fine because we are sophisticated we would never let emotion. He's up overwhelm Wilma's and so let's get into our Monday punday. Let's kick it. We've got guys Geiss baby all your or maybe. The guy says right coal beastly e he really was. Oh I follow that with Tyler Beast East Tyler later Zona McColl Fart man. Oh that's not fair. God smells I smell smell of art. Ski Derek Carr Bid it. When I saw that I thought it was Derek cabbage tough? Yeah just fantasy point Yonathan Williams. Oh Oh man and then the weekly shot at Mike Maven's man you're where you like the one. Yeah I I. I've had my Kevin's and he has over. The course of the season had a lot of fantasy points put up but the way in in which they have come have not produce enough consistency. So I'm I'm with the Mike Evans. You know Mike Meth WTN's out there. We'll get into the truth truth after the season look at the consistency of those guys. You're right he's had some obviously some. He had a goose early in the season. And it's been weird total points. You need more you got yesterday. So that's why people are acting out against him. You can find us on twitter at the F. Jeff ballers I encourage everyone to check joined the foot dot com or fantasy football community. We just added a discord server. We've got forums. We've got leagues. We got proprietary. I Terry reports and what's great is as the off season is approaching. You get an extra episode of this show because we cut down total episodes so it's per week during the beginning of the off season and you get an extra episode so you can stay connected. You asked the questions yes I will. We asked the questions Akseli because we are reading them. But you submit the quest take you tastes and then we read and maybe we answer the ooh. ooh That's true all right. Let's get into the rewind weekly rewind all right Baker Mayfield underwent x-rays on the throwing hand for a contusion during halftime said. He's supposed to be fine. Fine Yeah he missed a couple of plays but came back in and he's he's fine. Nick foles was benched. I'm sorry how it's so hard hard because if you don't bench him doing the wrong thing but if you do bench him you just pinched forty five million dollars. It's the right decision for your football team. Nick Fools he has had not been playing great football heading into this week. The matchup seemed to me. I'm sorry I thought the match up was is going to be enough for Nick. foles overcome to everyone I mean Tampa is terrible now with there. Were a couple of these guys and and wind and weather played. Eighty two factor in a lot of these games but certainly Either either falls doesn't know how to play in the wind or he just was straight up but uh-huh just to speak to the narrative that Tampa Bay is terrible. You're now two consecutive weeks of looking at what they give up too fancy quarterbacks and unwind receivers and two consecutive weeks of disappointment Matt Matt Ryan was terrible against them. Wasn't that a few weeks ago. No no that was I always last week. And then Nick foles both of those players look like smash plays and both of them stunk so we need to bear that in mind in the streaming Jacoby perset next week discussion. Just need to keep it in mind. Greg Olsen can caution. It was an ugly one Daryl Williams. I left the hamstring injury. Darwin Thompson got into that game. Darwin well number one. So Daryl Williams went down. It was a non contact where he if you remember the Devon Single Terry play from the beginning of the season where Daryl Williams was just taken. Are- run the ball out to the left went down. You have to imagine that he's GonNa miss some time. Darwin Thompson does become interesting because of Damian Williams injury and Shady McCoy's the fumbling and he's been getting banged up this week or this year Darwood but Darwin. Tom Got Him because the game was a blowout and the team finally got to see what Darwin could do. Is that enough to earn Darwin. Playing time that remains is to be seen. I think the injuries are. I mean if if Damian isn't pack Daryl's out then Yeah Darwin is going to be important. He's an explosive player so he has the possibility disability of much like a Mile Sanders Win Jordan Howard was the lead dog. Could give you that one big play in a game even if he's not having considerable work but you know at this this time of year you might be in a situation where you need to look at him we'll talk waivers tomorrow. Km Balaj leg injury. Patrick layered stepped up. Sort sort of I mean he's yeah. That's that's stepping up in Miami. They won that game too. So shout out to the Miami. I mean I y trick I couldn't help it. Just start to roll over in my head. What this game meant to Philadelphia and for them to lose that game? Their season has gone sideways quickly. I couldn't see future. It was it was all just a minute. We trusted you. You know it was the big show day. Wow believed was pretending. I thought he knew the you said said that you knew it only if they win. Okay Yeah wasn't I would say not great year for the Eagles. Yeah Yeah Yeah Adam feeling out. Surprisingly we found that out yesterday we found that out Borland. GM Mighty. We hear that like after the kids in the middle of the morning you had a player you were gonNA play over theon. They would have been locked on your bench you found out and I. I don't have decide Phelan anywhere so I didn't have the decision to be made but I for sure would have waited because I would've as well. Everything said he was going to play. He was practicing on the week. It just looked like he was ready to go and No no yeah. People might have made decisions on Kyle. Rudolph on the basis. That dealing was back not playing. Kyle road if you did what you should have done at the very least which is make sure he's in your flex a e I think Kyle Rudolph can actually be a pivot. Yes that's actually if you're looking at your roster and there's nobody else to pick up and you can Pivot scoured off than You know I think he's got as good good odds at a touchdown as anybody tonight. Yeah that's A. That's a fair point I guess you could do the same with HOLLISTER potentially sure can pick him up. Weekly rewind news notes brought to you by the sleeper APP. Let's talk studs. This week's fantasy stud muffins. It was the study week for Aaron Rodgers. He thought he was in Lambo. He's like look at the snow. Good the plan. The plan is working out. fellas starts starts starts. It starts right. Yeah so Washington next week smash play for Rogers then Chicago then. Minnesota Chicago Cackling Lambeau man that you want to him. That's why we're talking about how to avoid laying him in that all important week but that's going to be tough because if he smashes again this coming week which he should he's GonNa. How do you Benjamin home in the play awesome? But you've got exactly you can't just bench him you have to cut them. People are going to do and I'm really hope we're right on that. I do too part of the plan. Oh my gosh. How's the future look over their future man for? I don't know Rod Haven. It looks good. Rogers really likes to show people people that he's not dead. Twenty one for thirty three four touchdowns before we thirteen. He had thrown a combined. Two touchdown passes in the past three games. That's the thing you need to remember. I Ryan Fitzpatrick went crazy. Devante Parker had the best game of his career is a beast slow. Happy what is happening with Ryan Fitzpatrick and Devante Parker like these. These are the fantasy things that bring me. Joy is win this just the stickiest of fantasies rash third actually gold. I love that you know early in the season whenever ever. was you know several weeks ago. Five or six weeks ago when I said I love Devante Parker I believe we cut that sound clip out to play at my funeral. Yes and we'll I'll never hear it when it's right it's like come back to it. Not If you die soon. That's true cross. It's three hundred and three. That's what Mitch Trubisky Tom Brady and Carson Wentz put up this week. Oh Tom Brady you garbage can yeah. That was that's not this is not fair Brady looked I mean I was thinking God. Thank you. Brady looked horrific horrific for most of the game. He looked. I was walking by car this morning. I'm thinking is this the time where Philip rivers and Brady the Like are the are the old men starting to show that they're getting washed. And I you you can never because the Patriots you so you know they. They've still got super bowl. Runs in them for the next six or seven years but it just felt like it. It felt like watching them. They were a step slow. They couldn't move around the pocket like they always have. They missed throws that you just don't you don't see Brady and rivers just missing throws for the last five of years and that's what you're seeing. And then of course he ends up with a good fantasy game into Shawn Watson. Was the story of the evening. Eighteen for twenty five to thirty four and three had a rushing touchdown and had the receiving touchdown What kind of crazy to me? This is why I've been a bill O'Brien supporter. Since since he's been there is that they two or three times a year they show up in big important game with a game plan to win and this was a game where Tom Brady. And the offense couldn't get bailed out by the Super Defense because Houston had a game plan to win the ballgame and they did. I mean it was just well executed. They have those names plans more often. Do that more than twice a year but you. You're not wrong but they are good team. They're a good team and they They have Denver Tennessee Tampa on the schedule. The finish out the year Watson balled out and here we are. I mean making New England. Look mortal then they no longer have. The one seat belongs to Baltimore now. A lot of people out there bench to Shawn Watson because the matchup. I'm happy happy that you know we. We were saying. He's not a must bench guys always play. You saw it with Dan. I got a good game against you know the it was the fact he was at home. Yeah big big time. I was super afraid of him on the road. Less afraid of home but at the same time you might have pivoted. Now if you pivoted to Jared Goff. You're happy you're fine. Oh ooh please cardinals everybody okay but if you pivoted to darnold no. That wasn't good. No there wasn't good or cuyler him. But Jared Goff four twenty four. He was He had more yards in the first first half and I think he had in the previous two games combined Arizona. True Arizona. Yeah it Arizona plays. Sometimes you get there there there. May there may end up. And they're on the ball in their jam or then there there's off coverage and they play off five or ten yards. They play off fifteen twenty. Well you gotta give the cushion. The cushion is GonNa beat deep. That's right. I mean we watched this thing out here this coming off a bye week. Arizona looked as bad as a team. Could look this with rusty. You know yeah you're right you're right. I think that they were to say where to rest. Were trying to get back into game shape after that league. I mean they were so so bad. I couldn't even in Arizona. We are cardinals. Fans watching this game just from that perspective was like this team sucks. It was gross. Yeah it was ugly. They have no defense whatsoever so whoever they're playing. I believe Pittsburgh next week. Decisions to be made in Pittsburgh there was a play and smear don. Aw Oh where Monette. Why not sure some? Roll them out where higby rolls out. And he was well-covered well-covered and they and they missed the play and I said at the studios like Oh my goodness we. The cardinals just guarded tight in the next play with a touchdown to Tyler Craig. Yeah they had one good coverage off game he was a one time thing running back. studs Chits hits the Group. We all expected dairy guys for he. Most and James White leading the way moster nineteen per one forty six and one against the Baltimore Samore Against Baltimore Forty two snaps. Tevin Coleman had ten snaps. What do fantasy owners do? Whatever and Coleman Mike Dude? I don't know I mean I I didn't i. I was fading. Tevin Coleman in this match up plus you add in the fact that they had some some weather issues there where it was going to. We went conditions. I didn't really like Coleman. This wasn't though that I don't like Coleman so I'm going to pivot to the backup running back. But Coleman we have kind of highlighted over the last couple of weeks that Coleman he looks like fantasy fool's gold he came out after the injury had that one massive Asif game or he got three touchdowns on very limited touches. It seemed like he was going to be the guy. Then mabry goes out but Coleman is just it is he's not he's not a safe running back to he has upside every week but he's he's not safe. Yeah we brought it up a couple of weeks ago the fact that if you take got that monster game his weekly average was the running back twenty seven. It's only gone down since we brought that up. I mean he's not even an rb to to. He's you know when you're playing rb threes. You're not winning in your normal weekly match ups the question and we'll dive into it more tomorrow about the waivers. Who Do you pick up up is Brita coming back as most of us grab is Coleman injured? was there something more to the benching yet. It's going to get complicated. They have New Orleans in New Orleans. Week no thank Burrito. I think will be back. He was very close to getting back this past week. It will muddy the waters. And if you're leaning on seven Coleman you're in trouble the next week Darius guys had ten carries ten as not a lot that you want not according to Carolina. They said that's just just south it. That's a plenty one hundred twenty nine yards two touchdowns do you really have to. Yeah I I in my matchup. Here's a little peel back. The curtain in my match Chep my opponent who has pretty much super team won a loser. Julio Jones was out he had to pivot from Julio to bench. And who did Heathrow win. But dairy as Geiss that jerk oh Adrian Peterson in his own. Right was thirteen. For Ninety nine with a touchdown as as well which means combine they put up. What two hundred and twenty eight yards and three touchdowns on the ground against Carolina you can run on the panthers? Aaron know who who plays panthers. Next week I was thinking it was Green Bay. Wherever you've been running back yeah oh no devante ready very cool? No I'm not ready for this. So James White on white had had a horrible previous week but right they were playing from behind the whole game. In the garbage time thing came to fruition as Kansas City. Next week you could be in a similar boat next week. So James White you can play moving forward Mile Mile Sanders for eighty finally and also had five catches for twenty two yards and a touchdown. I don't know win will see Jordan Howard again to be honest with you so mile title sanders the majority of all the work you know I saw Jay Jay talking about. We've had this narrative of committee backs in Philadelphia and they just wanted to a committee. Well they don't want to unless they can with the talent that they have available of its Howard and miles sanders they do. If it's Mile Sanders and J J they don't Mile Sanders takes the vast majority of all the work. He had a nice gain. They of New York and Washington coming up so mile sanders may be one of the players they get you to the championship Innis this this next week against the giants. If Jordan Howard is out again then Mile Sanders is in a great position and yet again. Brian Todd Gurley. Jason started the week big week. Nineteen ninety five and one and Ronald Jones. Don't forget Ronald to what barbour for seventeen for forty four Mike. The process was sell into two on wooded peak bartered become the starter again what happened. Oh yesterday Mike it was yesterday. Why can't you inform me to do you think he has like a magic eight ball Brazilians? That has Asu to play of of which Guy Roll out. Because you just can't ever know it's one of those situations where if you just if you're in a league where you get the backfield. If so you just say I get the Tampa Bay running backs you know there are leagues like that out there where you get the the position right of team. Then you are so stinking happy Tampa. Bay's running game this year. They've been very good but in normal fantasy leagues Y- it's impossible it's imp- it's literally been probably the most destructive running back situation in the league because every single time through the year where it seems like there was a glimmer of trust. The rope was pulled out from underneath you. He's did you shook the ball the rope on a road in Wroclaw. You say you don't want the road. I said I knew it what was wrong. Step one don't stand on a row. Yeah because you just yank it out from under the rug. The rug should be standing. Winded lived rug gets pulled out from Manali. Yeah that's scary. GS Three for student on a rope. No every league that I was in I saw Ronald Johnson lineups and and those teams normally had peyton Barbara on their rosters on the bench and It costs you so hey we wanNA pause we want to get into We want to thank our sponsors answers today before we talk about wide receiver studs which means talking. About Harry's it's holiday season say goodbye to Dole Dole cliche gifts. I don't need no more socks. I don't eat a wallet. I don't need a tie. What I need is a special gift and you can get data? At Harry's listeners are still get five dollars off any hairy shave set by heading Harrys dot com slash footballer and they started just twenty bucks so if you're in one of those secret Santa situations that's within limits okay of your secret Santa. I've used Harry's for years the high quality blades. Great Shave Save every single time and has a special special offer for fans of the show. 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Seven for one fifty nine to ten targets has the jets and giants and their next two matchups. Heck if you play in week seventeen I mean just enjoy the bengals since week eight. He's the wide receiver. Eight fifteen point four points per game. We've Seen Ryan Fitzpatrick do this before. But we haven't haven't seen When the season began was it was fits than it was Rosen and then there was Preston Williams and now all of a sudden the great beard and one is is just fling in it is getting done? Man Smiles when he's winning smiles when he's losing. He doesn't care but Portland Sutton balled out as as well five targets two touchdowns including one of the best catches of this. I could the touchstone. It was unbelievable. I mean he's diving so like making a diving catch is so much harder than we think as we get to see. These amazing athletes make diving catches all the time and oftentimes those diving catches her dropped. Now do it with one one hand now dive with guy on your back. Oh tiny window. Where you only get to see the ball to last-second grab it with your far single hand pin Senate to your neck and then when you when you used to be a color man when you hit the ground? Don't let that ballroom. It was unbelievable. Portland Sutton to me was was almost an unplayable asset. This week. I was wrong I I saw him with. You know look drew lock. Coming in is going to be good or bad. It's it's not going to be not great Bob. But he better than Brandon Allen. He's fantastic ORLANDS. Sutton is just so good. And we've said this before. We said this win Brandon Allen came like Sutton is the real deal. They're still they're still more variability to him. Then there are other top notch wide receivers. You you said better than Brandon Allen. Well not true. The first time he played with Brandon Allen scored in that game operating jr watching drew lock play. He was a better quarterback then Brandon Allen. Andrew Lock is willing to take chances down the field. Yeah I mean so. Let's turn that to the fantasy realm. Are you confident with Sutton. You just lock him in moving forward. Because it's the same question with Kenny Golladay uh-huh if he's got a third string quarterback David Blau like allow Yeah Look Portland Sutton's scheduled coming It's Nice Houston Kansas City in Detroit. Yeah those are three plus matchups which means you play him. He's going to be an everyone's lineup. That is out there. You're in you know you're gonNA find out he. Is he up to the task. All Right Alshon Jeffery Mann Robert Wood Sixteen targets. Jeffrey Nineteen for Robert Woods which was was incredible Geoffrey. You always play Jeffrey. When he's back? I said that on the show last week you know wide receivers favors for Carson Wentz. You saw the week before no zebra. When Jeffrey comes back he always ends up with double digit targets? Did I see nine for one. Thirty seven on one. I don't think anybody did. But that was a monster monster game from Geoffrey they were trying to get back into it at the very end. Sixteen targets my goodness. That's you can't trust anybody else on the offense. No Oh not really hurt. I mean you play every week in your sign. Why records that is that is accurate? Win Wins goes through his progressions. It's like three jeffries freezing Galore. And that's how it goes one two three and then Robert Woods nineteen targets team catches seventy two yards two. He's nineteen eighteen. He's he's a good wide receiver. I just so bizarre but you can't you can't believe very much every opportunity you've had this season to piggyback Accardo. Game has failed not not. You're saying with the Goff. I'm talking about when people come out. Hopkinson Week one when you come out and you dominate the Arizona Cardinals your you take it with a grain of salt every single time during this will be the best game. Robert Woods has this year. Oh well I mean when you have one hundred seventy two yards. I think that's true of almost everybody but Robert Ward has been good lately lately. Eighty yards ninety five ninety seven hundred seventy two yards. Those are four of his last five games. He had a third in there with thirty five yards. But he's actually been pretty darn good and I think the beginning of the year was the was what has really scarred people. 'cause I mean he's he's sucked to start the year outside outside of that hundred and sixty four yard. I'm I'm with Jason that his last three games ninety five ninety seven hundred seventy two. Yes he's not GonNa get you one hundred seventy two yards. What's funny is one hundred and seventy two yards? Actually only his best game by eight yards on hundred sixty four yards. Earlier is no uh-huh touchdowns. Yeah he has no receiving touchdowns on the year that is. That's that makes no sense. It's really hard to do when you're talking about you know he's got eight hundred and thirty five yards right now. He's on pace for twelve hundred yards and no no receiving touchdowns. Yeah just wild and no I mean we knew that rams players we're going to dominate Arizona. But it's been rough sledding with what God had put up. He put up zero passing touchdowns in November. So Yeah Robert. Woods wasn't alone in not catching any in the schedule is not the best going forward. Seattle's fine I think that's a matchup that you you can Do well against but Dallas in San Francisco. Those those are difficult. Yeah who who do you have more confidence moving forward with from this group of Honorable Mentions this week. I you know I'm GonNa go straight right up. Just shuts. Anthony Miller was nine for one forty on thirteen targets that was one more targeted than Alan Robinson had has Dallas on Thursday Cole Beasley. I believe you mean call beastly cold Beasley. Thank you six for one. Ten and one or James Washington who once again ended up on on the stats sheet and has Arizona next week. Four for one eleven for James Washington. I have to trust one of those three. You have yeah you do. You've got to make a play. Anthony Miller has been way more involved over the last two weeks. You know. I didn't mention trubisky. He was US three hundred and Jerry and you know they have Dallas on Thursday this day. Anthony Miller thirteen targets Beasley. Who if you've chased the points Beasley? You've been rewarded and James Washington's been big. Well I don't know if you guys realize this this but Devlin Hodges. He is the first undrafted rookie quarterback to win his first. Two starts since Ed Rubber Pte.. Oh take seven. Yeah Yeah I'd stat. I think obviously James Washington has the best match up because he's playing Arizona they're duct Bros.. Man But oh I think I would trust called Beasley. He's just been more involved more often several good weeks I every week. I'm like I don't want to trust Cole Beasley. But then he's been good You know more often than he's been bad so I think I would put my trust there with Anthony Miller he has had such a great stretch of games. and He's good but you know. I brought this up two weeks ago and again this last week. Mitchell trubisky splits when he plays a top ten defense passing defense versus the bottom. Two in passing defense are astronaut. It's ten points to twenty six points. He can beat up on bad passing defenses an absolutely horrific against good passing. Ask Defenses so I'm not going to trust bisky against Dallas this coming week. Yeah it's helped it Taylor Gabriel's out at the tight end position Tyler. We did what anyone would do against the callers. I WanNa say anyone I mean read Alison I mean. Ross dwelling I mean if you play tight end or if you hold up a little full name card necess- tied in on it. They will let you pass. It's it's frivolous tiroler. Higby seven four one zero seven one. So Tyler higby these. This says his career yardage like it's a among his first half career high in yardage for his rookie year. He put up. Eighty five yards at on underseas on the season. Two hundred ninety five yards total the next year it was pretty good. Two hundred ninety two yards total. The next year he put up one hundred and seven yards and the touchdown run wild and free. Yeah it's ridiculous so is he a one week play. Yeah one week play yes might get sixty. I five for seventy nine in one. This was exciting to see a second consecutive week with a touchdown Kaczynski's in that streaming shot category with the way fitzpatrick is playing. Yep Yep jets giants Cincinnati win you some league the fragmented. It's Patrick is looking. His way is what matters because Kosinski talented. He was drafted. have to to be a superstar Titan. If you don't remember you know Mike Kosinski it. Coming in to draft season was everyone's favourite tight end because he's built built in a lab. Yes exactly he has. He has a top five finish in week. Nine top four. Finish last week week. And he's GonNa do it again this week so you're talking about three top five performances in the last five weeks that puts them into the category of somebody that you can look at what those match jets giants Bangles. Yeah Jack Doyle. Six or seventy three and one in the first week without Eric Hebron eleven targets. That was the most important part of that. I think Jack Doyle's someone you can stay with. I agree Jason witten six forty two. Darren Waller June got that show. Yeah yeah the return of the Walrus it was. It was foreseen. What we talked about hunter? RENFRO was the the man stealing feeling all the waller's targets nine targets. I mean they were to be to be fair for Waller. I mean it was a great performance. Oakland was chasing the entire rematch against the chiefs. It's very important that I don't speak one. More word about the raiders without hitting this button stinkers wake presented by odor eaters. Mike you know how you felt when you kind of like apologized to Amari Cooper and then he you just ruined your multiple matches multiple weeks. Yeah Yeah I feel a little bit the same going to bat for Derek Carr who had been statistically aesthetically and by the the test a very competent game manager winning games yesterday went into that match up with the opportunity to tie by the chiefs atop the division instead. We've got a second consecutive stink fast for Derek Cabbage is called him. Derrick or der cabbages I feel like that's too big of a compliment because I like I like Kevin. Kevin isn't the best way. Obviously what is really bring you colonel slaw crunch Callsas. So as maybe yeah I like a good call sly but it's not. I mean like Mike You would shop on some plain old cabbage or it's like not just like grabbing. Open a fresh bag in an apple. You said it brought crunch. Yeah not flavor. No they're cabbage cabbage. I bring the krone. Shares the reality with their carpets crunch lead. We talked about how bad he has been in matchups in Arrowhead in the past he just historically has not been great there but we you know we brought up last week bringing up this week every week. This is when weather really comes into play this time of the year your fantasy playoffs offs. And we don't have that information early in the week. The projections are just too unreliable. When you're early in the morning of you gotTa look at the you know? We put out a weather weather report on the fantasy football dot com or Tweeden. Things out there were so many games you had look at look at the Games that were affected by win that we were talking about on twitter before the game you had had the Tampa Bay game which you know we were worried about James About foles you had darnold And you had. This game was unbelievably windy. I Move Pat Mahomes down a couple of spots. Derek Carr was dead to me the wind. There was just unbelievable. So when you're on the streaming guys not those you know Aaron Rodgers in bad weather but when you're on those streaming guys and they've got all of a sudden an extra draft factor you know we're streaming based on good matchups. Were saying it should be easy for them but if the weather comes in and makes it difficult. They're they're probably not good enough to overcome. Come on a new obstacle SAM. Darnold had been the number seven number seven and number three quarterback in weeks ten eleven twelve heads to Cincinnati Sonetti and puts up an absolute terrible performance to bengals divas. Just too good and now you're now you're thrown into question with your confidence For Sam Darnold against Miami next week which should be an easy smash play but now you have seen that Cincinnati wasn't so what are you. What are you doing with Sam Darnold? I will play. I won't play him as well and I'll say something like three of his last four games because it is true. I mean it was a bad game but You know Miami is a you know a really good matchup. Obviously watch the weather if if The weather is bad than maybe pivot but the match ups good he can get it done and I love the fact that he was using Robbie Anderson this week because the deep threat. Hopefully it's going to help fantasy points. Jameis Winston fumbled thorny interceptions. which meant he didn't throw any touchdown? See the interceptions. Aw there crucial that ratio the same the touch the other show maintained So what do you do the performance. Keep playing look if you watch the game Tampa Bay dominated. Nick foles ended up getting benched because the the team as a whole was playing so great they had a defensive score Arbor had two rushing touchdowns this was this was in was very unfortunate for James because Tampa Bay whooped booty but James didn't didn't have any touchdowns and So killed him for fancy all right. Nick Foles we talked about that disappointing performance. I wouldn't be surprised if Gartner got the next start. That'll be interesting but it will be. Yeah it's GONNA be. It's the chargers so at home against the chargers running backs. Aaron Jones is a problem right now for fantasy owners because he had been absolutely smashing but then three out of the last four weeks. It's been disappointing Averaging about the same fancy points that Jamal Williams's has Washington and Chicago. And then Minnesota only eleven carries. You got a touchdown down in this game and it was called back. I remember my My son has Aaron Jones and was very disappointed at eight years old. He wrote him a letter this morning. Now he it didn't don't don't do that. Don't do that but he was. He was bummed out. It hasn't been good. Yeah I I still think you start him. You know coming up here Washington in Chicago which is a decent match up on the ground. I I mean how you GonNa Bench Aaron Jones. You GotTa have really great options. Because there aren't while he has the ability to put up duds he also has the rare ability to put up a thirty or forty point week. Not a lot of people can do that. So tough standards to bution. Yeah I mean Aaron Rodgers. I just threw four touchdowns the t took him away from Aaron Jones. All right might as well continue the stink in New York Lev Bell Ten for thirty to tin for thirty years. I watched him wolf. I remember third third down in fourteen and he picked up that first down by a good two or three yards on the the ground. How did he finish with ten thirty two? Now that I had I was unaware of justice next level stuff here from twelve l was holy moly. Jonathan Williams is job. Maybe got while he only had fourteen snaps Jordan. John Wilkins Twenty nine snaps. Name hines thirty snaps including Heinz getting a goal line touchdown Jordan Wilkins eleven forty seven. Finally back in in reality yes. He was active last Thursday but he hadn't practised so there was a lot of questions around his availability clearly a lot healthier now and then Jonathan Williams just didn't get a lot of work so you might have just had your one week docks of Jonathan Williams success because a fulltime running back for the colts like Marla. MAC will be fantastic but if they go with this timeshare there. It's a three way timeshare and we did. We did hear that MARLA MAC is hopeful for a week. Fourteen izzy yeah. Yeah that was. That was the last report I saw. I first time line was hoping to be backed by week fourteen. Would you play him in his first week back. I would hope to not play him in his first week. Back to be honest if I but but he is the caliber of running back where you might not have a good enough pivot. I'm not going to pivot down to a Jamal willing. Eileen that I would go his direction with him fighting on the edge of the plywood and it's not a leg injury I mean. It stinks that it's hand. He's got a hold onto the ball a certain point if he gets a a good chop in there maybe it rehearsed the hand but at least as legs are okay. Yeah I guess if he can hold the ball probably okay with MARLA MAC Devante Freeman on his way back in his New Orleans with seventeen fifty one next week Carolina. That was the mattress talking about. Carolina just got smoked by Darius guys in Peterson thing. Freemen's in your lineup. David Johnson. Four for fifteen to for nine. Who Yeah I mean I guess we were right? It felt weird to say it but we said you can drop David Johnson Before the by and Chase Edmunds had no touches in this game. Either the fact act that you had the bye week to rest up. You know if if felt dangerous when we're like okay. You Drop David Johnson and you know not a must drop a if you if you need to move on move on on because coming off the bye there was the the world where okay. He's he's healthy now. And that was the issue and he comes out. Needs to start a first net. Drake Nick most snaps drake drake as the starter for the Arizona Cardinals. David Johnson is a is a flat out backup. He's handcuffed now and I'm not sure. Oh Oh yeah I mean. He's the handcuff. And if DRAKO's down the anything changed rest away with the back half of the game. He got more he snaps. got some receiving where drake garbage time. Drake was not productive. Thirteen thirty one any hope. I have no hope I have. I have zero zero hope. All right Yeah Drake stunk Sony. Michelle just ten for forty five game script. Was the anti Sony. Michelle game script. How is Philip Lindsey? I didn't say his name but but no no no he is a post. He had fifty eight rushing yards four receiving yards. But when that game this this is happened three weeks in a row now when this game started every single play was like. Oh my word Philip. Lindsay's good you watched him just tearing up the field like I believe you'll have a video game. Yeah fantasy points per steps taken. He would be number one but me. He looked so good. Gets off to at those Fred Flintstone feed wrong start but for some reason every single week you can't finish the game with a good fantasy long. They're not a team. Look if they win games the rest of the way it's going to be seventeen. Fourteen is not going to be prolific withdrew. Lock and company is just not I mean Brandon L. Andrew Luck Doc. This is what you're dealing with. DENVER IS GONNA have to play defense kick field goals and unfortunately that means very limited goal-line opportunities for film Linsey. Who did look good? That's the weird part of. It is not looked at all the last few weeks every time I see him. He looks great. Not a great fantasy Alright Beckham returned to his three for twenty nine. He wasn't in the stinkers stinkers which I feel like he should have been. What's the what you guys is? Temperature here here with Patrick Mahomes who who had one hundred and seventy five yards one touchdown but that was coming off of one hundred and eighty two yards and one pass no. He didn't get in on the ground though so he had the two types and and and I have no worries. I brought it up earlier but the wind there was unfair unfathomable. There was a play where Mahomes is rolling to his is right and he threw the ball and it was. It looked like it had to be ten yards. They should have been a pick. It was so far from where he was trying to throw the ball to. And you you know. Yeah but I know I mike bringing it up he. He's in New England next week then. He's Denver divisional game possibly bad weather and then he's at Chicago so the final three weeks of the season you're leaning on you. Don't say what you will last two weeks. One hundred and eighty to one hundred and seventy five yards. Basically I guess the question is. Is there any situation that you pivoting for Patrick Mahomes. Are you just GonNa put your future in his hands. Sure if I've got Lamar Jackson. I'm I'm I'm staying with Mahomes Mike. Did you have any thoughts there. That's why he brought. I just wanted it just needs to be talked about that Patrick Mahomes I guess he did have the rush. It does sound so it's his fantasy day was saved. But that's rough man. We've had back to back rough weeks from Patrick. Mahomes definitely not winning you those weeks. Yeah back the three for twenty nine on six targets. That's the eighth time this year that he's been outside the top thirty six if you have an adjusted your expectations by now. You're out of the playoffs. You have have plenty of time to do that. It's crazy how long it has taken the fantasy community to realize that Beckham is not a weekly must. Start Guy. I I mean we we have the evidence. Now this is going the next two games sure. Cincinnati Arizona that. You're GONNA play him. You're GONNA play claim in Baltimore. I you know I'm not. I'll give it so compounded though but the fact that Jarvis Landry having a great year because he's the number one wide receiver. I mean. He's he's the more of the I read he's targeted better. He's got a better connection with Baker Jarvis Guy. You should be playing every week in. Odell Beckham is a guy. Yeah you should be playing in the in a good matchup. It's just it's name lock you know. We're we're just. We're just so enamored by what has happened in the past that we're not realizing what's happening now. you're not wrong. Dj Chart could have been one of the most disappointing joining players of the entire week. And just to forty seven had to withstand the quarterback switchover. Don't worry DJ charge your. Maybe your your huckleberry is coming back. Maybe maybe maybe he's not but any construct sern there for DJ Shark. Yeah I mean yeah no not not not a concern like pulling DJ charge on my lineup sucks. That he's going to play the chargers. And we might get the Casey Hayward treatment. But I'm still playing all right. Mike Evans we talked about Kris Godwin. Neither of them scored in this game. Winston and throwing touchdowns tyreek Hill. We just talked about the win but he was fine for fifty five. Yeah that sounded more exciting than his fantasy. totals Just throwing that one up to the wind too. You're I'm GONNA play tyree going forward. What do brandin cooks now? Because he hasn't performed since he's come back performed all year look at Arizona's not the salve for Brandin cooks than what is is the only two targets Dude Shark tank nineteen targets Robert Woods out to targets for Brandin cooks. You gotta be done with them right now. Yeah I was GONNA say I don't I don't you know. Do you bench him. Sure do you cut him. Sure like I don't I don't think he's a must bench. I think he's a guy that should be. I mean if if he was out there on the waivers right now and I'm looking at different options. He might not be the guy I pick up the play on a weekly basis. I might have more confidence in you. Know if Robbie Anderson's on the waivers I'm picking up Robbie Anderson over over brand cooks the matchup against Seattle. This coming week is fine but then after that I mean if you if you don't WanNa trump goff you don't want to trust his third word wide receiver. I think it's pretty definitive. That's what he is right. Now what what do you do with Terry maclaurin too for eight. You cry on four targets targets. I mean if you're talking about rostering somebody would rather roster cooks maclaurin. That's that's a mean question that's really name questioning makers yeah yes it hurts. Don't ask it it hurts in my belly I would rather roster tear McLaren and I just hope case go comes back. It's not. It's not happening though but injury Dave one. They've won two straight games. No that's not real. I disagree with real facts. Hey Guys Sammy. Watkins Goose three targets zero. Eero catches McCall Hartman had zero targets so this was fifteen total completions by mahomes on the entire day but the nice thing is you know you shouldn't play Watkins ever. Yeah that is nice in this day and age to have have that kind of true confidence. But it's I was a you know a Watkins Truth. Her and if I have moved on weeks ago then everyone should have moved on his powers were stolen. By the the Lazard Cam Zarghee lazard king came through with a big performance. Everything Mike the false pretense you. You can't have powers stolen that you never had looking out of okay real quick I just WanNa give you two two different lines. Okay okay all right. One is one hundred and ninety eight yards and three touchdowns. Oh the says that one game the yes take it. The second is three hundred and forty yards and not touch downs. That is nine games in nine games. James He has Sammy. Just forty two more yards total in the nine games combine that he had in week one. Wait as he was reading. I don't know read those numbers again. Jason Oh I'm worried hundred okay a hundred week. One one hundred ninety eight yards three touchdowns. Okay okay the next nine games combined right no touchdowns three hundred and forty okay so John Thank you hundred and forty two more yards in nine total games than in one week. It's still ridiculous. Hey Jamison crowder looked like like a player. You could count on two weeks ago this week. He had nine targets in the ended up with eight total yards. That's record what do you do with him. Gotcha you guys are going back to the well darnel next week against Miami. You gotta go back to the well with crowder. I came from Robbie Anderson one hundred yards. You do go back to the well with incident. It it's highlander situation for the New York jets wide receivers. They're GONNA only be one. Yes I you know. Look against Miami. If if the weather is good and I I Irabu intercenter Jamison crowder next week Rod Robbie if I have to choose one but I think you can play both. I mean I'm not in on Darnold but that's a switch. I mean last week when we asked the question it was router artery then Robbie vindamme areas is still nine targets right exactly. Oh more like fort. Dr Dr Dr. It was right there with you. I I get it and I like it very gates but I wouldn't know no. That's that's This this is the end of the show starting to you. Remember the stench of the watching Darnold who you started in your League of record over Carson Wentz winch. Shut up I the pain is too fresh. Oh my goodness and and look. I wasn't alone. I asked everybody that I know full full tilt and you spent the whole week talking about how good Carson Wentz is going to do. You can play Donald out Right Emmanuel Sanders for for forty. One I said I wouldn't play him in this game. I mean right now you just you can't. I don't think you can play him in in just about any game unless you expect a huge shootout solely because the emergence of Deebo the health of kittle. Yeah Yeah and the low passing volume. I don't really want to start either of those guys. Obviously that's the equation. You started Deebo you were. You were happy but I don't think the process was correct to start Deebo on that insane off some facet of your yes. I looked around and couldn't believe they didn't flag him play. When the offense ends of player is waiting obvious? Flag Hunter Henry George Kills Zac and Ryan Griffin put up stinkers this week at tight in kindle Henry Henry those were the most disappointing kit only two for Seventeen Hunter Henry to for ten Henry had been the number one tight end since he returned from injury. I just play him again. I mean yeah have all those guys you just play. Yeah you do Erz all right. Let me well he was he was dealing hurts. Is dealing with the Hammy it. It seemed like he wasn't even going to play all week long until Sunday morning. Everything was trending towards Akers was going to be out. He still played on about seventy five percent of the snaps. So he I work. At two different touchdown. Right one was a drop been. One was a drop the drops to get you. Yeah all right. stinkers stinkers of the week presented by odor eaters odor eaters the best foot odor. Defense WanNa thank our studio sponsor today as pristine auction a sign Davante Adams Jersey yesterday yesterday at Pristine Auction Dot Com. 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Week 10 Matchups, In-or-Out, Capes & Shadows

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Week 10 Matchups, In-or-Out, Capes & Shadows

"Report. That wasn't annoying. It all what's up Fook Lam before we get today's show started. We want to invite you to head over to foot clan. Vote dot com. If you'd be so kind and for us for the iheartradio podcast awards. We were nominated amongst a group of very impressive podcasts. Do be the best sports podcast of the year. So head over there. You can vote every day takes a couple of clicks foot clan. Vote dot com. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from draft dot com studios with your hose, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike, right? Welcome to the show. Back again. It's Friday November nine oh, it's Friday, and we are the fantasy footballer 's back again talking football. That's what we do had a fun Thursday night game. We're gonna talk about some very interesting things on the show today. Wow. Jason just in amazing. What a call on what? Good juju calling on. All you just you sifted through name after name you found your way to a potential start of the week. I hadn't heard of him until yesterday. Yeah. Well, you heard of them pass number one juju Smith Schuster your start of the week. I didn't see it coming. Wow. How do you feel my Twitter timeline exploded? Thank you foot clan. It was it's a fun way to start a game. When you get made fun of saying, oh, really you're going to do. And then I'm like, I think he's going to have a really big game. And then it was like. Off to the races five yard. How do you feel? What what was that was a seventy five yard touchdown. Correct. How do you feel about the first play being a seventy five yard touchdown than getting ninety told receiving yards on the day, totally fine with it? I'll be very disappointed you'd be very yards and a touchdown. If the first play from scrimmage is a seventy five yard touchdown, Mike is traditionally the greediest the three of us. So I get that you get that score. He's the one that when girly ways to get that out of my face. I was not I was the defender of Todd sell congrats on your. But that's because he wasn't on your team is the point if your team just like when you used to have shady, and he'd be going out there and putting up these monster thirty forty points, and he'd be so pissed with them. Yeah. Well, that'd be IB upset at the coaching. Yeah. Because it's always a bad mistake when you pull up my players, greedy, very greedy fantasy football greed is okay, though, you can want more points. That's fine. But yeah, nice start. We've got so much to cover today. We've got big news to talk about or. You know, we I pulled our listeners about love bell, James, Connor. We're going to get into that shortly. You can find us on Twitter at the F F ballers, and yeah, like you said there's a lot going on. We're gonna get right into Thursday night recap. And I'm gonna start here. James Connor last night. People wondered why wasn't on the field. He got place in the concussion protocol. It was weird though. Because even before the blue tents experience for James Connor in the first half. They was getting pulled off. They're putting other guys in. I know the sideline reporter came in and said that that Tom would just wants to rest rest Connor a little bit. But it was his usage was strange to begin with then you have the concussion protocol, which we somehow pass. But now he's back in the cost of people to call or the concussion protocol. I remember thinking when Samuels was on the field or Ridley I remember thinking it feels like Tomlin is trying to figure out with offense coordinator whoever's putting them in trying to figure out how do we use to backs right because it was very not Steelers. And now Levey I'm bell is in Pittsburgh. He's asking. For the sticks out. It's safe to say it's time to pass the it's safe to say. Yeah, I don't know has been crushing man James Connors crush on your Bank account and his is performance of the beginning of the game. Was so impressive. That little. He's got that little shimmy that he does at the line of scrimmage. But look fantasy owners need to prepare because it's going to happen and levels gonna come back on Tuesday. I'd put that I put it in ninety five percent. Yeah. I don't we should not report it like it's a done deal. It's not a done deal because there was another report from the athletes that living bell is still considering are showing up at all. It's it's an absolute total disaster. And nobody has one hundred percents satisfactory news on it except for levian bell. Yeah. And he's not telling even in ramp at the beginning of the day yesterday was like nobody knows if you showing up, but more and more reports started training yesterday where the the leadership in Pittsburgh believes he's going to be back. I tweeted out yesterday ten thousand of you voted said, look if love bell reports Tuesday what is James Caan arrest of season. And here's what you said. He said forty one percent of you said Rb one recipes for Connor for Connor. I don't believe that myself forty percent of you said Rb to so eighty percent of you believe he's going to be an Rb one Rb to twelve percent of you said Rb three and seven percents that Rb four or worse. I probably fall myself, and you guys cast your vote, but I fall probably. I'm going to give him the benefit of the dam put him in Rb three category. But it's probably that's the benefit of the doubt. It is. I was gonna say between Rb three are before is kind of a man. I would I would lay in the Rb two area. It's it's interesting for all of lovey mbelle success and how great he's been running back for this team. It goal line. Work has never been the calling card of of levian bell on the ground. Last year. He was successful with nine touchdowns. But but before that seven rushing touchdowns three rushing touchdowns. What's are are fine. Those are good with those numbers. But when you're an elite running back on the field. Eighty ninety percent of the time you expect a little bit more and James CONNER has been very successful in that role. So it would not shock to see at this point the timeshare and then go to James Kohner at the goal line. It's possible which would keep him in that running back to category. Yeah. The odds of line is outstanding for Pittsburgh. And so yes, I know that there's been a lot of like apples to apples comparisons. James Connors numbers this point in the season and love bells, and this is a great offense of line in offense of system. I think you're gonna lose just about every one of those receptions that Connor was getting very possible. And I think love and then you got the concussion worked in. He's going to be very interesting for fantasy owner. Last night. Pittsburgh came out set the world on fire fifty two twenty one they defeated the Panthers. They start the Panthers winning streak. It was just one of those games for Carolina that just they came out. They had an impressive tribe. They scored Christian McCaffrey had three touchdowns. They did not want to guard Christian McCaffrey know that especially that first drive and in the passing game where they decided to ignore him on a couple of of touchdown passes. But it was a weird game. I mean Cam Newton didn't really rush the ball. Their offense of line struggled a Mincy the defensive pressure from Pittsburgh. And it was a game that I don't think it ends up this way in Carolina, plain and simple. The momentum the ball rolling down the mountain so to speak just kept gathering points and it just wash them. Yeah. Big Ben is not throwing five touchdowns in Carolina. That's why you know, when we're talk Ben at home. We love the matchup being in Pittsburgh. A lot of sense. I mean ever- everybody got involved. Jalen samuels? You get a touchdown McDonald? You get a touchdown juju you. You Jesse James? This is an Oprah Winfrey situation. Yeah. In firm, McCaffrey, if you played against him this Thursday, I four one out to Brooks was messaging about and I said, hey, this reminds me of one Eiji green cost me Thursday night. And it was the wait a minute. You didn't play. In dynasty Brooks. Did you play against Christian McCaffrey? No you because I did. Guess what? This is the fourth time of add to play plan in nine weeks. And he's terrible play against listen. This was a Christian McCaffrey this was his highest fantasy output of his career. It was according to tristen cockroach, this was the highest output a fantasy points for Carolina running back in the franchise history. Haddish downs a long de ngelo Williams. Jonathan Stewart three touchdowns will do that though. Any big takeaways from the game. It was nice like man's McDonald didn't make an appearance for a while. And then all of a sudden got a little screen got the touchdown made a couple of plays. So you were happy. If you started him. Yes. Any other thoughts from this game? I mean, my my only drag all seem underwhelmed. Yeah. He he did was the Pittsburgh defense their defensive line. Just looked unbelievable. And so going forward. You know, I wanna factor that I wanna remember how they're they're starting to click. Yeah. They've been a much better defense week after week. I mean, that's just what's been happening. And you know, how much Mike loves Joe Haden. I mean that is true. How Devin funchess do suckers poorly. Yeah. Thirty two out the Carolina Panthers. Do. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey, right? Define. There were points scored by the Carolina Panthers. The Steelers thought you know, how we can win. Let's play eleven on ten. We're gonna play eleven on tin and we've got one more man than them. Then we're not gonna guard Christian McCaffrey. But those other ten guys we're going to lockdown it worked. I it is Friday so much going on. Let's do this. But clan Friday. Today's foot clan. Friday winner is a leash Lia for nand. Congratulations U N A. Fifty five dollar gift card to shop Bolers dot com. You can get yourself some swag for free. Yes. Thank you for supporting the show. Absolutely. On friday. We like to cover all the injuries everything we know about them heading into the weekend. Don't forget you can also get updated further by checking out our rankings. We're going to adjust those every time. We get information practice reports. And then Mike is on Sunday live our before gametime every single Sunday. That's where the magic happen at is where the managers where something happened. Something happens. Each and every week. Let's do it. All right interro. Chris Carson he's going to be a game time decision for Seattle. I honestly don't have a read on if he's gonna play. I don't wanna play for my fantasy team though. I could say that. Well, they did say he was pretty much gonna like before the week. They said he wasn't going to get any practice. I'm in. So I knew that of. Yeah. This I'm nothing to change. He is active for the game. I in work. Yes. Davis. Mike Davis to me is is a strong play. And for any reason. Chris Carson is out. Mike Davis becomes must play. Okay. All right. That's fair. Sony. Michelle interro in think he's gonna play this week. Okay. Marlin MAC, it was pointed out by thousands of you that we did not have a good Barna MAC discussion on the breakdown yesterday, which or any which you're right about we're right about it was an oversight. We didn't talk about Marlon MAC. First of all, do you think he's gonna play second of all if you plays? Are you playing him? What do you think about Mirela MAC in week ten? Yes. And yes, it's never a good thing. You don't wanna play coming off of a by Wego? You who still practicing limited which is what's happening with Marla MAC. So you have to pay attention. You have to monitor. However the week prior. He, you know, he's been dealing with the hamstring issue, which you've got you just have to give it rest, and they gave him extra rest during that week in a way that made me think Marla MAC was you remember he was going to be my start of the week. I worried about him because of the rest they were giving him then they went out and gave him twenty five carries. So no, I think he's active this week. I think he gets a bulk of the work. I I'm big. Marla MAC fan. I think you could play him. But is not a very good matchup. Jacksonville is top ten against the running back. I think with Leonard fournette there. I think the game is going to you know, it's gonna wind out a little quicker and the plays are going to slow down. So I don't think this is a huge upside game for MAC, but he is he is a star player. I don't worry about the injury right now. Carry on Johnson interrupt. He will play. He's been limited. All we came in Liger at blunt actually have been limited all week. But THEO Riddick is the problem. Yeah. Does your mom steel Riddick in? Yes. Theoretic will be playing in and the matchup is is really bad for the lines running backs. What about Doug Martin interrupt? Ltd thursday. He'll probably be in not a good week for him. Jalen Rashard week, Doug Martin arm. I'm sorry. Doug baldwin. I mean, he's outta my lineup. He he's out of my lineup. He has not performed when he's been air quotes healthy, which all he is this year best case scenario for Doug, Baldwin, his air quotes healthy he has not performed now. He's got a new injury. This isn't the knee. This is a growing growing. And so he's out of my lineup. Even if he plays Sammy Watkins in around. I'm gonna say out didn't practice wins Thursday with the foot injury. Jamison Crowder interro he returned practice. I think he'll be in. How do you feel about MAURICE Harris? Yeah. My starting weekly contingent on James and Crowder being out. That's what I said yesterday and the show I'll definitely be pivoting. I'm going to watch for the practice reports day you can check Twitter at Andy Holloway. I'll pivot off of MAURICE Harris, if Crowder is active it's too much of a risk at that point Quincy, noon wa in around he did not practice Windsor Thursday. But. Won't shock me. If he ate place, I'm pivoting to in Tonio Brown. It's official too late already played. It's find someone else. Go Adam Thiel and can't buy week keep going you can grab tyreek. Although he killed. Robbie Anderson didn't practice wins their Thursday in around. Same thing is Quincy. I believe he will play. Yeah. He sat out Wednesday and Thursday last week and then did play. Rob gronkowski. In around limited practice for gronk. I leaned that he won't play because they have the by week coming up get him the just a full multi week of rest for his bag and his ankle. So maybe he plays. But if you have gronk you need to be preparing don't be caught off guard Sunday morning that he's inactive and then George Kittle. Interrupt. He's got a chest contusion hearing a non contact jersey. You saw him get hit and kind of have that look about any plays on Monday night. However against the giants you're not going to be able to pivot. Evan ingram. He's probably owned. So from from what you from what the reports are. It's not expected to impact is availability for Monday's. Do you prepare self though, as a fantasy owner, if you you might, you know, what's your is it red L? You know what I mean? Honestly, you might you might be able to Ingram. I mean in I think most of my leaks Angra, MS vailable. Places. I've dropped them everywhere had him. So just give a little peek real quick. I might be there. All right foot clam before we get into the fantasy forecast. I want to thank C geek for sponsoring today's show getting tickets online, you know, this it can be far too complicated. 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Let's start with this matchup the Redskins and buccaneers the Redskins are five and three the bucks or three and five. It's a fifty one and a half point over under and the buccaneers. Wow. Oh, this doesn't surprise me. At our favored by three in this game at home. I feel like this is a three and five Redskin Redskins team against the five and three buccaneers from this. This matchup in the sense that the Redskins are so depleted their team has injured left, right and center and most importantly on that office of line. I have personally given a team wide bumped down to Redskins players flabby side of this match there on the flabby, Abby as we call them. And they're on the road. So yeah, I'm not a fan of what I've seen from the Redskins offense this year other than Adrian Peterson. And now he he's not a pass catcher. He's running up between these tackles. He's he's got third and fourth string guys to to pass block for them now. So it's one of the re look them being favored Tampa being favorites. One of the reasons I am fan of MAURICE Harrison this game, especially you know, of Crowder is out. The buccaneers are the worst pass defense in football. They give thirty eight and a half points a game to fantasy wideouts name somebody that's going to score at the white position for Washington. Well, it was gonna absorb some of that thirty eight points. Let me ask you this because Tampa Bay they're allowing the most slot yardage in the league one hundred fifty yards a game. And that's where we're Reese hairs made his money last week was in the slot. Let's say that do you pivot. Crowder is bad. Will you will you pivot just right to crowd not as a sort of the week? No. Because Crowder, he's just been so inconsistent. You haven't seen a? Target told for Crowder that's been in that category. That you saw MAURICE Harris last week. So. I will move away from Harris because I'll tell you who I think I would be willing to start here on the Washington side. Yeah. On the wash Vernon Davis. And it's Vernon Davis is definitely in consideration. I mean, you look redes- still leading and targets but Vernon Davis. Just looks better. As always as always had a trend trying to protect yourself from some food dribble. You try to AM's. I am I baby. This is a little deeper, but the matchup says the pass catching running back is valuable Chris Thompson has already been ruled out. And now Capri bibs is a full practice all week for leading up to week tin 'cause bibs has been injured as well. The last couple of weeks did get a touchdown last week. And so I think if you're hurting at the running back, and you and you're gonna PR format you can put on the bid, I think you can put on the them. All right. You're going to get a little messy. But yeah there. Exactly break the glass put on the bed. Okay. I don't want to get my applesauce. So matisse. Good good. I love Ryan Fitzpatrick start of the week at the quarterback position. The redskins. They gave up thirty two points a game to I'm sorry. They get twenty points a game two opposing quarterbacks as twenty four th in the league. That's not good. No matter. What happens game, script wise? It seems like Ryan Fitzpatrick or James Winston finds a way to have fantasy relevance. Most weeks for Tampa. When you have Mike Evans to Sean Jackson, Chris Godwin, Adam Humphreys at hold on you listing Adam Humphries. Freeze. He deserves to be listed after a two touchdown performance. That is the way it work. No. But saying he's at the back of the lists all move a lot where he belongs playing. He last week. Eighty two percent of the stance for Adam Humphreys, he played more than Godwin. He played more than Chris Jackson. His market. Share was sixteen percent of the target. I comb calm yourself down. He is called Beasley. Yes. He does. Same thing. Beasley has these games? That are big are you are you picking up Adam Humphreys over cherry other Rideout's? No. Of course, not. I would I would play Humphries over God one. So I don't mind that at all. I would not over. I wouldn't over to Sean Jackson because I want I want the opportunity that destroyed Jackson provides. But it will not surprise me. In the slightest. If DJ has another man game, and Adam Humphreys is like six for seventy does. Shawn Jackson, pretty much always is like fourth in their target percentage on or snap. Snap count percentage. He's not a guy that is out there every play, but the value difference between a guy like Humphries who's going for you know, two three yards slant. Get a little quick pass and fall down usually and Sean Jackson who's going seventy five yards and catching a bomb. Touchdown very on. Jackson has a low snap percentage and is the seventeenth ranked run and the gay season. And why games where he's yes. He's there because you expecting a ferocious pass rush from the Redskins expecting them to be a head and him needing to pepper Humphries with targets the game. Scripts a lot different this week than what we had last week. That's one of my confidence goes down, but OJ Howard. He's a must start at the tide in position Egypt every week. That's really where this matchup is. I mean, I don't think we missed anybody here. Barber barber would be the discussion. Yeah. He's been limited in practices. He is a running back back in a maybe I mean, he's three I guess is running back three maybe maybe barber. Maybe Barbara Barbara bibs. I'd start Barbara would go barber get a haircut. I'd rather hunt to go to the barber. I mean is that what they call a chain? They go to Cape who I name all it. Okay. I honestly this call the chat to the barber's shout, all our Tiki. If you know anything about this. Let us Ron day. Please let the chargers at six and to take on the one in seven raiders the raiders are. Ten point home underdogs. That's one Gruden a ten point swings. A gruden. They need at least a Gruden to break even here forty nine and a half point over under look the chargers and raiders. This is going to be a rough one on Oakland. The chargers are good good team. They need this win. What else? What do you expect them in this game? You're starting rivers. You're starting Gordon. You're starting Alan on the. Can you flex equa? He he had an under well-made performance last week. Mike Williams, Tyrone Williams. Yeah. I think you can't. I mean tyrel is just starting to Sean Jackson to me like they're they're the exact same tier of fantasy player for me. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I see that. They they have. Style. Sean Jackson Jackson has hit more right this season. But we're also don't let the first four games of insane massive success for Sean Jackson alter who he who he actually is the past four weeks. He's thirty two yards this past week twenty five three weeks ago. I mean, the the hit or miss nature. Sean Jax is still there. He's not a surefire candidate even with the fifth. Magic throwing the ball. Okay. Mic. Just sent me a picture of a barber Cape. Yeah. What's it called? It's called a Cape. Yeah. However from the picture, I am now convinced that everybody at Hogwarts is getting their haircut. But because that's what you have to turn it around. That's the thing is it goes in the front doesn't it? Cutters. Bibb look covers your whole body. But you realize that Batman can take Cape and covers whole body. He's always ready for. Doesn't magician where Cape? Yes. I mean. Those cover the whole body this. All right. We consensus care Queen doc. I mean. Yeah. Cape. Dangerous. Let's dangerous and talk about the raiders. All right is his chard. The preferred running back play based on game flows. Most running back target six point one a game. Chen point dog says that Jalen Rashard is the play at the running back position for the raiders his his numbers when he's actually catching receptions, it's crazy because like ninety plus percent of his receptions, or when they are trailing. Yeah. Not that there ever, I guess. Yeah. Winning games ninety percent of their snaps. So also if he catches the ball and free minutes have come up with the game clock. They're probably trailing. It's not been pretty though who else can you start? So I think Jalen Rashard is a fine play. Who else can you start hook? Okay. All still start shared cook. But like Jordy Nelson. Brennan LA fell. No could know someone that's the ball. Would you be willing to gamble on any of them? No agreed love Michael key seven to patriots. Take on the foreign for titans titans are six and a half point home underdogs in this one forty six and a half point over under. And the question on everybody's mind beyond whether rob gronkowski is going to play to me is whether Josh Gordon is going to consent continue ascending as a fantasy asset. Mike you made him your start of the week. Yep. I loved her now Butler. Cinta gracious effort. Yes, I don't expect Butler wool shadow him. But yeah. No, Bill bell checks going to try and Thanos. Yeah. This matchup say there was there was a reason we didn't let you point in the Super Bowl. And there's a reason that we cut you as so shock me to see Josh, Gordon, they're turning the lights on on that shadow and is gonna go poof. Pouf? What shadow? Yes, there's nothing here. But Josh, Gordon. Just Gordon's vary. Fused. Yeah. But I try to see a shadow in the light to possible. It's it's actually harder. See a shadow in the dark because everything is shadow in the dark, you need a light source to make show wrecked. Shine a light on a shadow question of the day. The shadow is. Believe so it's actually the absence of lights, but it's the points. We we have derailed here. I don't know. What's happening back to the cover say, I don't just love. Josh, gordon. I like just the patriots as a whole in this one especially the pass catchers the titans defense. They're a little mysterious because the in terms of fantasy points allowed to the quarterback running back in the tight end their top six in all of those except wide receivers. They are twenty fifth best they've found a way in a really genuinely they have found a way to monitor funnel defense games. What really ugly? I mean. NFC all season long has found a way to just you know, they're always there's never been these these great awesome offense of back and forth performances. And I think their defense does get it done. Like, you said the wide receivers they've given it up there. And so that's why I think Josh Gordon's. Great play. I'm not as sold on the running backs. James white now, Sony Michelle is going to be back how much Sony Michelle if he's back how much is he used Daryl probably get a few reps there too. Right. But he's not play. He's not startle. He's only career to hurt the value of our us only concerned about James why because he is uh smash for me. Yeah. I mean, no, he's not smashed for me. But I'm not going to not start him. James white is a different type of running back that he's just forced fit so many passes. I don't worry about him. And I don't really I don't really worry about him either. I'm not downgrading him. I do think it'll be an interesting game. Because you know, Brady's been on fire. Anybody realize that this is a rematch from the AFC divisional game last year. That's. No, I did not remember that patriots are going to win this game. It's just a matter of how they go about doing it. And I can see look if Sony Michelle's out there you're going to reduce the toll opportunity for James white you'd place on him shell I'll play both verse game back. Yes. Okay. Rex burkhead. Do you remember him? Of course. I remember rexburg return fast this on Thursday. Oh, yes. He wrecks. He is going to return. He's not eligible to play until week thirteen. But I asked Mike this in the studio yesterday is Rex Burkhead prepared to look Artie ruined the beginning of your season, Mike, he did he is there to to ruin the end for James, white and Sony, Michelle. More patriots. They don't care about fans. Right. They care about winning more Sony. Michelle concerns than than James white at this point. Yeah. I mean, would you if Sony Michelle comes back as a great game and trade deadline is coming up next week. Would you be willing HIV it from Sony in worries that this might be a three headed committee when the playoffs come and all of a sudden we had the playoff matchup this week? Not me. I do not think the Rex Burkhead returning. Look, I think what bell. Check wants to do is he wants to run Sony. He wants to run Sony early often. He wants somebody that he's going to consistently be able to have get chunkier. It's a difference of talent. I don't think Rex Burkhead coming back in week thirteen is going to be able to chunk yardage the way Sony, Michelle is, and that's all that matters to me, though, the thing that matters to me for Rex Burkhead and Sony. Michelle is dedication at the Golan because sown. He doesn't he's not catching passes right now in this offense. He can do it. But they're only using James white in that role. So if Sony Michelle ends up splitting goal line work. Then you're going to get games of where maybe he has twenty carries and ninety yards. But if he doesn't score then you're like crap that I'm not concerned about Rex taken that work from. Okay, I'm not does your bullish nece on any of the wide receivers. Change of rob gronkowski is active. No, okay. Now, the titan side of the ball. Yeah. That's where I was going to tighten side. Marcus mariota midstream of the week. He's the consensus QB twenty. So not a lot is expected from him. But last week it was pretty good from Arcus Mario, and he ran the ball ten times game script says they're gonna have to figure out a way to get back in this game through the air that could be a lot of screen passes to Dion Lewis Dion Lewis, one hundred thirty eight point five total yards in the last two games. Jason you liked the on Lewis a lot I do like Dion Lewis a lot. Now, this isn't the perfect match up for him. Although it is revenge. Game revenge for what getting a new career trading taking them away from Cleveland and giving him a light of revenge game for making him go from the patriots to the titans. The he's if I were him I would think the patriots for what they did for me, but they can neon every hand off. So Dion Lewis the reasons consecutive new resource happening. He keeps dipping his Capdevila. Check for taking them out of Cleveland. The reason that I liked the Lewis is not in the matchup or this week specifically it's because coming out of the bye week. The titans said were through with the Derrick, Henry experiment. You can be in on the goal line situation of the fourth and one. Otherwise. And then I don't know. I don't know why you putting him in seriously. Well, and they didn't always Dion got some line work. But Dion Lewis has just been. The last two weeks in specially after their by week this this past week. He is the guy and there's not many of those. You know, full three down backs in the league. And all the sudden Dan Lewis looks like he might be one. So that's why I am pretty high on the on Louis going forward, and you flex Corey Davis. Fourth-highest target share in the league that is acquainted to almost nothing and fantasy points, and if you can't flex him. Now, can you release them? You can he's my wide receiver twenty eight. So I guess that is a flex. He will be shouted by Gilmore in for db. Yeah. For New England and Gilmore has been incredible. And I don't want to flex Davis. But I don't wanna drop him. You guys realize they moved Gilmore over to envious last week. Yeah. During the game they shifted him over to Marquis Valdez after the two big catches. Until. Yeah, they use him to shut somebody down. Yes. The dolphins at five and four take on the three foreign one Packers. The Packers are nine and a half point home favorites at Lambeau, forty seven and a half point over under. Joe fins have a winning record. That is who is shut worse. The dolphins are the Redskins. Great question. The dolphins. That's where Lena's. Well. Okay. Well, they're going to beat this week the Packers at home. I think they take care of the dolphins. So where do you find fantasy value on that dolphins roster? It has been a struggle all year long to be able to say any name with any confidence. Kenyan Drake Frank gore. Kenny stills, Monday, Parker different aims every week. Kenyan Drake I'm bench and just about everyone of them. Kenyan Drake has the reason. He's been disappointing is not him. It's been the coach. It's been the usage. It's I mean because when his his officiency is fantastic. But you know last. Week. You got three carries that that's not going to get it done. But if you look at his involvement in the passing game, I mean going back the last half of the season seven receptions, four four two four. He is the guy to to be getting involved in the passing game. If they're down to the Packers. I think Kenyan Drake you can start on this week at Drake to me is the type of player that if you've held on this long. You haven't moved him. You didn't drop them at the beginning season. You just got a plane every single week because you can't you can't project when Kenyan Drake's actually going to have his bigger games. You gotta take the good in the bed. So. Grand Barfield re tweeted this yesterday. Switching to the Packer side. The more interesting side the site of care about in this matchup. He tweeted out this about Aaron Jones among running backs with at least one hundred twenty five carries over the last two years. Erin Jones's first in yards per carry first in yards gained after defender closes. I in rushing gains of ten plus yards. I and success rate second, and I down rate he's very very neat in special. But you can't translate tweets into fantasy points yet. I'm working on it. But Aaron Jones needs the ball for that to translate. It was the highest carries of the season. I agree. And I've said it all year. It's coming is it coming this week? Yeah. Oh, the ghost is in your throat. It is in the same of Aaron. Yeah. Z mcmahon. Hiding in a corner just looked up and said, yes, it's coming. Yeah. I'm offering I'm afraid to play Aaron Jones this week because he's a guy that has not always done it. But I'm playing him. Because I mean, he's he's eight in my rankings. He's an Rb one. There's no there's no situation based on this game script what he's been doing his utilization where you're going to be able to bench him. I don't love it. That's why I say I'm scared because. It hasn't happened yet. But this is you're projecting things. I mean, it's happened to twelve eighty six last week to twelve freeze six touch two weeks ago fourteen for seventy five and two for ten through the air this past week. I mean, that's those are those are solid Rb to number. Yes. But I think this is an Rb one week. He hasn't done yet. You can. Yeah. And you can chunk on the dolphins. The dolphins are going on the road. They're ranked twenty fourth in the league and fantasy points against the running back position. This is an opportunity for Jones. And like I said last week if you look at formations if you look at the film and what they're doing with the offense and having traded away time Montgomery for a bag of potato chips. They're working or Jones into the passing game a little bit. He didn't get every target. But he's in there on those formations. He caught a couple of passes. He just needs his baseline to rise due to opportunity of and it's happening. So you you're saying you can show the dolphins. And so we're expecting Jones to do the truffle shuffle this weekend. That's a reference that Andy won't get. That's why I directed it. Right to him. I like it a lot chunk and the truffles. America, very duties reference. Because this is because I haven't seen gooney. Yeah. That's how it's hard to get the reference without seeing look your your shelf aboard team in the office is the trophy shovel. That is correct. And that's all man. Josh. Yes. That makes sense to look Aaron Jones the reason I pivoted away from our quiz Valdo scaling. I love Mark was in general, I think is a talented wide receiver. Who's now getting great opportunity with Aaron Rodgers Randall Cobb who was practicing got downgraded because he's just made of glass. I thought the reason you pivoted off NBS was because you discovered a new talent in I loved you. So this guy, and I said what is that said ours so far north it's so points so far north, and so no, but you've been I think it's important we need to counterbalance you pivoted off of a start of the week of MVS. Right. I still starting in VS in this game. I I agree. I I mean. I'm not saying he's a bad play. He just wasn't going to be my start of the week. He is my wide receiver twenty two. So a lower end wide receiver to in this game. I like him a lot. I was always down to play drawn Alison even in the games where you weren't expecting high volumes. Yeah. Invalid scaling is that role field stretcher. Big plays avian Howard. It'll be on. Devante atoms. Get. Yeah. Most likely he will be on atoms. Well matter I have not. Yeah. That's not going to stop me from playing out and him being an elite play. We don't need to spend too much time on it. But dolphins wide receivers. Let's at least touch on it because the Packers defense is ranked twenty ninth against fantasy wide receivers. Kenny stills was a surprise active this past week didn't do anything but with stills Parker amendola. Are you are you gonna smash the glass and play any of these guys? What am and dolar do last week? He was he was fine. Aiming dole has been find every single week five or forty seven. Yeah. He's the guy. He's ex. I mean, I'll break the glass with the Humphries equivalent on a team that should be down by a lot. Sure. Yeah. For PR purposes. Aiming dole has your civil Seahawks. Rams let's talk about this matchup the form four Seahawks. Eight one Rams in Los Angeles Rams are nine and a half point home favorites. It's a fifty point over under. I believe that that nine and a half points at home for the Rams is a show respect for the Seahawks. I'm surprised at the line at home for Los Angeles coming off a loss with their firepower to me that says that they will. I mean, Seattle's gonna have an okay game here. Seattle's what are what are the big story lines here? I mean. What do we think about Jared Goff golfer goods Yeary? I have him rated very high this week, despite the fact that Seattle has been great at stopping opposing quarterbacks. We talked about their matchups. It's a little deceptive walking all the way through. I don't think they're the second best team against quarterbacks. Which is what the ranking is. Because they've played a lot of quarterbacks that don't have the capability of being high scores. This is going to be their biggest test. I like Jared Goff to the tune of him being my number four quarterback this week. Yeah. I mean golf is proven because of the offense. He's he's a must start. He can get it out. I mean, all the value that Todd Gurley brings you in the screen game. He's bringing Jared Goff as well. He hundred and sixty five yards game at home by the way Cooper Cup. Back is healthy. I mean, we saw that last week. So yeah, I mean, the Seahawks defense has been shockingly good this year for all the pieces. They lost lost in the off season. I was really surprised that they have been a solid defense. So I, you know, it's it's which one is going to give and it's going to be the Seahawks defense 'cause the Rams are just too good at home. And like you said anti coming off a loss. They're going to have to. Slits throats. Oh, they're gonna they're gonna. Have to step on the neck waters happening, and they're gonna have to cracks people have families Jason metaphorically speaking or you're playing to read did. Infected hog time. Thank you. Brandin cooks river woods Cooper Cup. You're gonna play all three of those. You aren't gonna play Geralda. But just wanted to ask the question real quick. He had five targets three for forty eight. So that was his that was the season high too many mouths to feed. Okay. Too many. If there was an injury. Maybe you start looking at him. But no, okay. This nap percentage didn't actually go up for him. And just happened to get targets. The tight end on the other side, though, we have some questions there. Nick Vinet ran more than twice as many routes as at Dixon last week. I had a dream where Dixon was terrible. Really? Yeah. That's on a little worried. I was like why did I had a dream that you admitted he was not good, correct? There's almost like a full admission is happening right now. Her dream can't some dreams can come true. So this is one of those. No, no, no. You turn them. You look. When Doug Baldwin's injury both net and at Dick's and will will be used. They're going to be down. They're going to be passing the ball. I don't think you can start either of these guys. I don't think you want to chase Vanette. And I don't think you can trust Dixon right now. You can you do over under bet with me on Ed Dixon's total receptions in this game. I'll take to the over. So. Waterbed man, nothing like winning or losing a bet on Ed Dickson, catching three passes and love it. And I hope he only gets three if he uses again or willing to take double the water. Sure. All right. All right. Thank you. He had apologize to the Asian. He had a touchdown target last week. Just remember that he wasn't even it wasn't even an zone. Target was a touchdown. Well, it was in the it was it wasn't a red zone. It was. Yeah. Said in zone. Yeah. Chris Carson my Davis. We already talked through that Doug Baldwin talk through that Tyler Lockett, David Moore look at Baldwin MRs. You're starting lock locking in a game. Where the to throw the ball. Really? I wanna know. Russell wilson. Do you? Do you like Russell Wilson in this game? Do you like Russell Wilson her Mitch Trubisky for hypothetical jerky? I would I I like Mitch Trubisky more than Doug Baldwin for this particular weekend over Doug Baldwin. You'd say what I say Doug ball. Mitch over Doug got it. All right moving on. No. Yeah. Four back over Russell Wilson Wilson's been fine. I mean, that's that's the tale of of the season is he's been fine. You get two hundred yards and you get to touch. It's very similar to last year's drew Brees. Where at the end of the year. Russell Wilson finishes a quarterback one. But every single week. He's not doing enough to really help your fantasy team. He's gotta win. Call him. He's not hurting your team. So I guess that's the nice part about him. He's he's he's been safe. But you have not gotten the boom you have the ball in this game. He will have to. But that's what I I want him to run the ball that I want him to twenty point still seems pretty safe for. Yes. For Russell Wilson. All right. We need to move on. We got two more minutes to get through and our daily dose. So it's going to be a longer one today. Enjoy foot clan. Dallas Philadelphia Sunday Sunday night football three and five Dallas against foreign. Eagles eagles seven point home favorites. It's a very low over under a forty three point over under one of the lowest on the week. This is a game where I think you do have to temper expectations for Dallas offense pieces. Philadelphia's defense is good. Philadelphia's coming off a bye week. Philadelphia is playing a division rival Philadelphia's going to do everything it can to stop the one piece that can do anything, which is equal Elliott Amari Cooper. No, not a market. But look I don't at last. I checked Philadelphia hasn't giving up haven't given up a rushing touchdown on the season. Yeah. It's not it's running back. It's not a great matchup for Zeke Elliott, although it wasn't a great matchup for Christian, McCaffrey. Either that worked out it's not like you're sitting Zeke. But I'm saying I have in lower than the consensus. I haven't RB eight. Yeah. I mean, still play outside of Zeke. I think you could start you can Mark you say Jason start Amari start Amari Cooper. But I'm not starting Dax. Not start all Beasley or galloper Hearns not playing with the titans. I think that's it Zeke is a must start. And if you need to start Amari Cooper, it's it's okay. You would think that there'd be more much starts on the other side of the ball in the Philadelphia offense. But to me, it's Carson Wentz alshon, Jeffery Zakar. It's outside of that. I'm not starting anybody on purpose. No on accident. But not on purpose. I don't wanna I don't wanna roll the dice with golden Tate. Not knowing his out yet. I don't wanna roll the dice on Nelson Agla not knowing golden aids role yet and then at running back. I mean, it's it's nice for that. It's not a four headed monster. Darren sproles out this week Corey Clement has missed Thursday practice due to an illness. So he should be fine for Sunday. But let's just talk through the situation. If Corey is out in its window Smallwood, Josh Adams. Are you interested in playing either of those guys in which one would you prefer? If Corey Clement was out. I would play both of those guys and I would probably put Josh Adams in a head because I expect the eagles to win the game. And being the lead win the small wood is probably going to be if it was just those two guys the one used in the passing game. Okay. But yeah. Like, you know, low over under not expecting a lot of volume here, actually, the guy then to discuss Carson Wentz you point. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I it's a big it's a they're heavy favorites. Yeah. Heavy replied, Pat, home for them is a lot better. Yeah. And and I guess it is true. When we say, you can't start golden Tate or Nelson Agla these other pieces, it's because we don't know where it's going to go. But you know, it is going to go Monday night the one in seven giants the two and seven forty Niners. The Eli manning Nick Molin showdown. Poor Monday again. We've got to have bad football. Who didn't mulling last week? It it became entertain. So here we go. Let's George kettles must start for San Francisco. Matt Berita, look, no more. He most Breda is a start in this game. The giants are twenty third in the league it up fantasy points the running back position. Look, the question's. Always at Breda finish the game. But he's number one in running back yards per touch football. He's seeing two plus red zone looks per game. He is a start member is in should be out there for you saquon Beckham you play him every week. Talk to me about this matchup in a way that makes me wanna keep listening. You're gonna play saquon yoga play Odell Beckham the the the biggest question Mark to me of the giant side of the ball. Is Evan Ingraham. That's a no for you. Yeah. That's a flat out. No, I'm not starting editing room. It's been incredibly disappointing here. Historically, great rookie tight end season. He's right now on this year, though, he's getting three or averaging three point four yards. That's his average dipped target last year. It was eight point eight which is that's a great number for tight. And you wanna see that the impact of saquon getting checked downs and ally manning being the ghost in the shell is destroying Evan Ingraham's fantasy value. Yeah. So those. For those factors. I'm with Jason. I would prefer not to play angry. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, I would play CJ Zama ravening REM in he's still on a lot of waiver wire. So I if you can avoid Ingram, do it. Yeah. It's it's saquon Oto Beckham map Brita or in Mike's dynasty, Jordan, lineup Nick Mullins. Oh, yes. There is if you've got somebody we got some by we get you there. I have some by week and a benched quarterback on might seem James I have cousins and Jamie's and last two weeks ago when James got benched, I looked at this went oh crap. This is a problem, and I was able to pick up Brock Osweiler last week. And luckily, the it was like okay Ryan tannehill is gonna miss a few weeks. So I'm gonna play Brooke. But then nNcholas was my Knight in shining armor. I'm playing funk land. Join me. Join you. Yes. Like play Nick mullets. No, I just root for you. Join me roof. Yes. I noticed. You got mccown also off waivers. Oh, I don't know if that's you mccown playing who here's here's my life. I'm playing. Oh my gosh. Let's get into the daily dose where you can draft him. My visit. The daily knows brought to you by draft. Wow. So what are we doing here? Mike for daily dose today. Where did everybody wild and free? Yeah, we're doing a while on the free. We're just doing a we're going to get heavy hitters in here because three person draft and everyone is available. Oh, wow. Okay. I took saquon Barkley with the number one overall pick this week, I'm going guilty because I ran out of time. And didn't realize this draft is about to start. I'm going against my rankings. I have cream as the number one running back on the week. But Todd Gurley available. I'm just I'm just playing time as cool. Mike has back toback picks. All right. So on this week, by the way, it was Mike one. I was Mike one. Yes. I did. Thank I one. No, the second one out of it. So then because you did you or so kind to give me cream hunts. I'm just gonna stack heavy at why running back go with Kareem 'em Elvin. Gordon? This is fun. Yeah. We all we're gonna have a nonstop all stars here. I'll take Alvin Kamara please. I'll take my start of the way David Johnson stack on top of saquon. We'll go with that. And then I get another picked on you. Do. That's amazing. How this works. You know, all the players available. You went with David Johnson and Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. I don't I don't blame you. With Pat Mahomes. I'm gonna take my number one wide receiver on the week. Michael thumbs not bad, then I'll take the consolation prize of Julio Jones and a mall. We're gonna take devante atoms. Can we'll. We'll disorienting being able to draft everybody because we we've done like, none of these. There's always been top players off the board or mix it up mix. It up today. Well, you caught me off guard. Oh, you suck. Yeah. You want tyreek hill stack I've played against that too. Many times this year. I won't do it again on taking Tyree kill keep them away from you. So what are you going Kelsey? And I did go Kelsey ready. Yeah. I took Kelsey because you say me walk ins likely to miss the game. And man, what do I wanna finish with here? Do I really want to giants? I don't think I'd do. I'm gonna go with Robert Wood is taking Robert is draft is gonna end with Oto Beckham non-selected. Well, I'm not going to stack to giants Etel be diversify in that is that your way of saying you're not taking Odell Beckham or do you already have to have to what else? Wow. He will. Thank you for leaving me the stack. Jason. You are welcome. You get Aaron Rajai took Jerry Garcia good. What just happened? I did not see Aaron Rodgers. Then that was fun. All right. Some team. Why did it seem like that one went way fast because it's really easy to pick. Great players. It's whether you go a little lower in deeper, you gotta dig deep in the old mind castle. Castell? See I thought you were going like dig deep in the mine, which is where people dig deep, but you went I mind, but the mind your mind is fortress my mind fortress. Okay. The castle you drunk. Seve his era Gers Kareem hunt. Melvin Gordon Julio Jones Davante Adams, this is going to be going to win Patrick Mahomes. Saquon Barkley, David Johnson, Travis Kelsey rubber woods Jared Goff. Throwing the ball. The Todd Gurley Alvin Kamara Michael Thomas and tyreek the freak. Okay. Glad I recommend you try that out with a couple of people because that's guess what you can get an extra episode of this show we recorded ours. The foot cast each and every Wednesday, and you can get that at joined the foot dot com. You also when you support the pike s you get access to premium projections, you get access to flex rankings on the site, you'd access to the yearly in-season consistency charts. You get access to a ton of perks benefits. We like to give you back to our listeners and supporters that's been the goal of this show since day one. And that's what you can do over at joined the foot dot com. We appreciate each and everyone of you supporting the show and. We're always listening to how we can make the show better and help you enjoy your fantasy football season. Even more. Absolutely for clan. 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Week 8 Matchups, In-or-Out, Blastoff!

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Week 8 Matchups, In-or-Out, Blastoff!

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Welcome into the fantasy football players podcast Friday, October twenty sixth Thursday night, football and the books. Jason is here. Yes, I am very excited. I have made it alive to the studio after a night of red dead, redemption. Yes, we're all barely here. But we're, but we are Mike is here. I heard from many in my mentions. They said, look we love the show. We love the podcast, but we get it. If there's no show tomorrow because everyone's been playing red dead. We understand I said nee we shall be here. Well, of course, I mean, I tweeted you beat the game. I we have sir, sir. I played played a little bit. I tweeted last night. I was watching Thursday night football. And he said look we'll fuller. Let's wrap this thing up. I got red dead to play. I'm sorry. Gary wills fuller by name did. And then immediately motor immediately after he wrapped up his season. We'll goes down with a knee injury. It has been confirmed. We think but it's a tornado. He'll pro football dock and the actual Texans. Yeah. They're you know, they assume that's what it is. They're waiting for the MRI. Yeah. I I don't think I've I can remember the time where it's come out that the fear is a tornado L so quickly from multiple parties. And then it's like, oh wasn't pragmatically speaking he was still a worthwhile. Start of the week. Yeah. Monster game. Absolutely. There was far more fantasy goodness in this match than than honest than I really saw coming. Watson was absolutely on fire. Lamar miller. Welcome back to the party. Lamar Miller the past couple of weeks. He's been keeping it hot hundred thirty three and one just narrowly missed a really really long touchdown for his second Hopkins was was nothing about three quarters. And then he was everything he was Hopkins once again. It was a crazy game. It was and Drake delivered in a big way. Good game from amendola 'cause he threw a touchdown pass. Devante parker. Welcome back to the NFL Adam gazes of Buttle. That's a we'll we'll be one of the big storylines about think about this. You had Kenyan Drake. This unbelievable talent. Who couldn't get to the field? Even after you trade a J J. He was behind Damian Williams took that injury. And then you've got devante Parker. First round pick who hasn't been able to get to the field until Albert Wilson. And Kenny stills went down. He's been a did not participate. Coach's decision, you know, not even in the lineup. And now was like oh. Pretty this. Or are you in though that because that's going to be the questions for everyone come waiver time. I know we're the waiver show's not until Tuesday. But people want to talk about it right now are are you going to be targeting Parker. If rather be debt. If style would rather be dead than targeted. Von parker. I don't want if sir. Butts, candy or nuts nuts? If stills out I would be willing to take a flight on park. Okay. If he catches a helmet deflected Forty-six hundred pass in every game. He will be if you slipped the wide receiver. Once you subtract that play and say, it didn't exist because it wasn't even a target payment will fully grit. That's not like one of those particular say two yard run away. No that was not even targeted day. It would have been awesome. If he had caught every target. But then he was a six receptions five targets. Yes. Don't have been sweet. But if you take that away he still had a monster game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brock osweiler. Sure. And he'll be back. Tannehill is never targeted him. He's inconsistent. He always gets hurt. Maybe right. Yeah. If you start him, I'll give you a silver dollar a Pat on the back. Good luck. Boy. And the question will be we finally have seen to Shawn Watson coming back to life or fantasy purposes. But if he doesn't have will fuller it hurts. It's to me is a really big hurt to the the fantasy. Production Watson the dolphins did not play defense last night. The secondary took an they were leaving early for red debt. And here's the thing. When you looked at Watson the previous two weeks. He was atrocious. He did not run the ball at all. He did not have the mobility to get outside the pocket. Do what he did last night looks. How there were. Yeah. There weren't really signs of life to him, and he came out and he exploded. And look we were even looking at some rosters yesterday in our leaks and saying, you know, why didn't this guy drop the Shawn Watson? He's got Carson Wentz on his team. Why take up two spots. This breed the little life into it. And that's the thing that a quarterback with lakes can do. It's getting it's what Russell Wilson can do the deep ball becomes available when you can escape the pocket and let a leap talents do elite things. But now Hopkins is by himself. So his target share is volume his ability to magnetized the ball to his hands. Look those are all their Hossain's Hopkins gets a bump up from fuller, but Watson gets bumped down. I also KiKi maybe on your waiver wire. So just make sure you mentally note that because it's the Thursday game. Sometimes you forget about those guys by the time waivers are rolling mckee's gonna get a huge opportunity. Yes. And the targets will be required. I mean, there's just no way around it. All right. It is Friday. Put clan Friday. You know? On foot plan Friday, we give away a gift card, and we give it away to it's got a certain value. Yeah. Well, we give it away to one person a week from joined the foot dot com today. It's Patrick Myers. Patrick. Fifty five dollars a shop ballers dot com. As really hoping as you start to say the name. It was Patrick Mahomes is we're really close. I if Patrick Mahomes is a member of the fuck Glen he'd out every week every every week he'd win it in a way because he's the quarterback onto my teams the five and two and six teams I feel like he's a part of the family already true moving moving moving a lot. What you're you're embittered by that fact, I am embittered by that fact, of course, I mean those leagues with you. Foot clan giveaway dot com. Assign saquon Barkley jersey, and you can head over there. Enter there are a number of freeways to enter. And look we we've got so much to talk about today. We've got the rest of the fantasy forecast. We have some interesting injury news, and we have the daily dose on the show today. I also want to let you know, the the DFS podcast released this morning. The fantasy hitman and company delivering the goods each and every week, it's free. It's once a week early gets you ready to go and the DFS passes down to twenty nine ninety nine right now. Oh is the the season where approaching the midway point? And so you get a discount on the DFS pass. If you wanted to give it a shot for the second half of the year. It's DFS pass dot com. You guys ready for some interesting, certainly. What's the famous line? Are you in? All right. Jason Jason Jason just did you have a heart attack? Yeah. I'm not happy because I was so excited. Yes. For Marlin MAC time to exist. He did not practice yesterday. After we recorded the show where I said he's my start of the week. He was downgraded. And that was after being limited on Wednesday. Right. So you don't like to see that you hope that it's just rest. I I'm gonna going to wait because I think we should have a practice report before the end of this. It's really important if he's back a practice today. Great if he's out today than I have to pivot from my start. Mab Rita interro. He did not practice on Thursday. That doesn't mean he will play. He's one of the hardest injury projection guys because he just keeps clocking do. We just put them as out for all fantasy owners match. So good. That's what I was gonna bring up. Can you start him? If he is active because he's going up against the Arizona Cardinals who've been just yeah. And he's he's the later game. So you're gonna have to make a decision or you should be the most or donor. Yeah. If you could mean, I don't know if he's still in your waiver wire or not, but it would be great to have a backup. If breed it is active still play. He's active. Would you play the Colonel curly? And for those who don't know the kernel, of course, is really must start most start most. Yes. No Colonel mustard. Colonel mustard. That's why you say Colonel mustard pronunciation benefit if if Brita is active. It's just a it's a glory play. If you play the Colonel, I would be I think it would be fine. Starting the Colonel. I would not. Yeah. Because the way that I see is. I don't think Alfred Morris is going to you know, really have that number two roles. So if breeders there you're still playing a split backfield who's got work, and I don't think they're going. Give breed of the the whole kit and caboodle. So you'll be okay. Even if he's active there's a chance, obviously since it's happened twice already in seven weeks that he exits again early in which case the Colonel takes over. So I'm I'm a full say it's glory play. You're projecting Brita will play and then go down, and then we'll get the work. Leshan McCoy in around. He is practicing already on the limited basis he's in the concussion protocol. He's the Monday night game though. So unless you're getting clearance early Sunday by early Sunday morning, you better have Chris ivory or someone that you can it to if you want to rely on shady, do you think he'll play? I do rois Freeman inter out out. Chris thompson. Practicing in a limited basis, but he did last week as well. And he did not play. I lean out by I lean out as well. But if he's in is he right back in your lineup. Yes. Oh one hundred percent Peyton barber. Interim. I guess he's back mean he returned to limited practice on Thursday. So I believe that he will play which we were talking about Ronald Jones as a low level running back to if pain Barbara plays. You can remove the move that statement. Let's go with Sony, Michelle. No it won't play wide receivers. Allen Robinson didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday in around. That is troubling that he didn't practice on Thursday as well. These completely not practicing and I'm going to lean out. Geronimo Nelson job. I think that they're both gonna play Robbie Anderson did not practice on Thursday as well. So trending out. But I think he's an in for me real quick. He was not spotted so far today at practice. He's wearing camouflage rob gronkowski Monday night game Monday night game. So that's a scary situation. You've got to have someone pick up Charles clay in that same Monday night game. But I I agree with Andy's face that he's making. But if you're playing the game, you better be ready. I we call we call it smells Klay, Mr. necessary. Because of what he was for the offense. He's earned the moniker yet again fuse necessary for gronk owners. I have been feeling a lot of questions of people who have grunk and they've got someone else they were able to pick up Greg Olsen when he was coming. You know, and I'm telling everyone to go with the other player, I'm not waiting if you have. Another tight end that is if you picked up OJ Howard. Are you picked up someone else? I'm just starting those other guys because there is still the chance we've seen it before were gronk is out there as a decoy, and he hasn't been a dominant force. So you've got the chance he misses you got the chance he's just not as integral and he's using the decoy role. If you've got another chance he scores three times. Yeah. Sure. Yes. But. Reward. If you can if you've got an OJ Howard. If you've got a a Greg Olsen. I think it's easy to answer that way, though, if you have another top ten option, then go with right? But if you have no one else in your waiver wire right now is Ben Watson Ricky seals Jones Cameron -brate. So I would start been Watson. But not Ricky seals Jones or Cameron bright. In those situations. I would grab Charles clay. Okay. And wait for grown. That's my take. And and you know, I'm I'm really more risk averse of the three of us Jack Doyle, he acted limited practice. I do not believe he is going to practice. They have the by week coming up. And I think he'll be back after the bye. Yeah. I agree. All right. Don't forget. We'll update you. These things are always changing gotta be water. So the game day alerts one hour before the Sunday kickoff and Michael beyond Sunday live on YouTube, Instagram, etc. Youtube dot com slash the fancy footballers. You'll want to subscribe, we have something special. In for Halloween. I'm telling you, you don't want to miss it. You have to have it. But did you guys hear the biggest news injury wise of the week? Huge. Maybe Ed Dickson upgraded a full hole in Thursday's practice. Oh, yeah. Baby. Give her any team is Jason the Seattle Seahawks because the monster no contract. Yes. He signed a monster contract like Ed Dixon, like he signed on with the company monster the energy drinks through. Three years like thirty million dollars. No, it isn't even remotely out fifteen million dollar, not even fifteen. It's three years ten point seven. Really? Yes. In guaranteed is three million. What is why are you think that is ways? Just acting thirty million dollars. Ed Dickson caught ninety five percent of his total career yards in that one game against choice. Just you wait. Oh, we will wait forever for thirty one year old Ed Dickson daybreak out. Yeah. Just about to happen. He's an upgrade for the running game. Yeah. All right. Hey before we get into the rest of the fantasy forecast. We do have breaking news. We don't need the appears Marla. Amac is practicing today. So that was that came through the sleeper alert. I have not verified Knipe is the hype is too intense on Marla MAC. Yeah. I major pump may I I will say this with with a missing it still feels like I should not make it my start of the week. He's risky. I'm going to pivot to girly question. You're going early. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I I have good feeling about him. With regards to the willfuller injury. We did have I had a number of Twitter questions that we're in the same vein asking this question for. For commissioners for owners in this situation a lot of people entered into traits. Okay. So here's here's one example on Wednesday. I traded Doug Martin for will fuller. Unfortunately, we got a twenty four hour veto process because the Thursday night game was kicking off. And he was part of the deal. That means the trade doesn't go through until week nine next Tuesday. So now, I'm getting a broken fuller, and my friend is getting Doug Martin, should they commission the better end of that, you'll should the Commissioner automatically cancel the trade. Now that I'm receiving damaged goods the Commissioner and the rest of the league thing to trade should go through. I'm not sure if that's because I'm in first place or wet let me know your thoughts. Here's why we funny the timing. We just talked about this on the show that when you're heading into the weekend, you need to cancel all your trades. Because you don't want something to happen in the middle of a game where a player can then jump on and click except of a trade because the players know injured the same. For Thursday nights, don't make trades. If you you knew the twenty four hour process was there, you can't make a trade heading into the game or something might happen. And I love the foot gland. I love all the listeners of the show. But. You made a mistake, man. Yeah. You the the issue is you to Tokyo rat shooters gotta shoot whenever you're shot whenever you are accepting a trade, and you know, this isn't going to go through until the next week. That's the risk in every one of these trades. Now, if the this is the only way that I would say, you can undo the train the only way is if the other player the other their own Alden. The trade says, yeah, I I don't feel right about it. I'm fine undoing it if they want to undo it for guilt, or whatever reason then sure or just being a moral, upstanding citizen. Yes. I think it's immoral to to sleep in the bed that they made. But I get what you're saying that the spirit of the trait. I had somebody else right with the reverse situation. And they said I just traded you know, these three players to get Todd Gurley and it was like two players plus we'll fuller. He's like I kind of feel bad about it. Now because I don't think the trade was that good to begin with for this person that you've got girl. I would stick with the don't don't get guilty dome. Guilty to one of the criminals rules, don't guilty girly, Charlie. All right rest of the fantasy forecast coming up. But before we jump in. I want to thank simply safe home security for sponsoring this podcast. Simply safe is ready for anything that gets thrown at it. I'm sure you've heard about simply safe. And there's a reason why is because it doesn't cost an arm and leg it should. But it doesn't you don't get into long term contracts. You've got to check it out. We recommend it to everybody. It's what we use here at the office. Look if a storm takes out your power. Simplisafe is ready if an intruder cuts the phone line. Simply safe is ready say they destroy the keypad the siren they're gonna get you the help you need. No matter what. 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And you know, if there's anybody that you're on the fence about just remember if you wake up after the game starts, you don't get to change them. Let's start here with that London game. The eagles the Jags some news about that game. AJ boo out. Yeah, we did the full forecast of this game yesterday. But the that's the news. You got update AJ buoy as an incredible cornerback. This is it's got to be at least a slight upgrade for Carson Wentz in the passing attack. Yeah. I mean, you you have Jalen Ramsey and AJ buoy that's right in on the second half. That's what's made the Jaguars. So great. It's allowed, you know, coverage sex and things like that. So this is good news. I think this is good news for Nelson Aguilar, at least having an opportunity. I would expect Ramsey to be on. Al Sean galore has been targeted intensely this year. Yes, he has not. Is not done with those targets. I would say is that fair. That's fair. Yeah. So this is a game where maybe he breaks out. But really everything is Hertz to me everything always coming up earth's for the eagles everything arts everything or it's all all over. And that is at REM som- after you've done working out everything hurts. Also. So if you were if you were worried about playing alshon Jeffery because of the tag team cornerback duo, I first off I don't think you should have been. But now, you have a reason to say alshon is going to be fine. The two foreign one Browns take on the three two and one Steelers. It's a well. It's a forty nine point over under the Steelers eight point favorites. These teams need to go to overtime. It'll be great again double ties, I want them to tie twice niche up. Now the running back for Cleveland can they count can fantasy owners count on job for Rb to production in this matchup lower level Rb to production. He's going to get a ton of volume in. He's the goal line back in Cleveland ever gets if they ever sniff the goal on that go to the run. You always have touchdown upside with Nick Chubb, we saw that with Carlos hide hide was very inefficient this season. But they're good for fantasy because he was getting all the goal line work when they got around there. And so yeah, Chubb is basically Carlos high plus because he has the ability to break off a fifty yard run for a touchdown should one open up, and you know, the so far the Steelers have been very solid against the run. And and not not sold at all against the pass, which is not chubs game. So do you think Duke Johnson could be more involved in a higher scoring a game in the passing game? Or are you guys low on him simply because the first Chubb hide or the first troub- do Johnson game did not see a lot of usage for Johnson. I look there's always the possibility do Johnson was pretty good that week before. But because the range of outcomes for do Johnson is so wide. I I'm looking elsewhere in this matchup. I'm ideally not starting to Johnson. Pittsburgh, you know, right? You can buy weeks. But I I'm I'm scared his usage as far as opportunities was actually very similar to two weeks ago when he had the big game for reception. Seventy three yards was on five targets. He had four targets last week, but it only turned into four receptions for twenty flex worthy. It's he's not my favorite flex option. But desperate times, man. Can do we expect David jokey to keep up the found? Mojo with Baker Mayfield. Yes. I do. He has been the tight and five cents. Baker Mayfield took over. So Steelers not good. Not good against the tight end position. That's why David and jokers MS started the week. Yeah. He's the breakout is real. All right. Is this the last time we see James Connor with that is workload? No, I at some point. You have to go. We'll give give it another week. I mean, you know, I think it's the last. Yeah. May maybe you just fatigued. I mean, the reality is he has to come back. We're on Bill. Yes, we still talking about voldemort right now. He who shall not be named. No, look, James, CONNER has been great. I mean, people have been posting the metrics everywhere talking about how James Connors actually been more efficient than Levy on bell was to these same amount of games last year better against Xboxes. Steelers are scoring three more point game with James Caan. Right. Exactly. And and and obviously the team has rallied around Connor and is not very happy with Levy umbrella. And I mean that on a player level. So, you know, I I don't I'm less convinced that when Levy on bell comes back at least week one. He's just going to take over. I I don't think that's going to happen. But we do know right now. This is James Connors game. It's his workload. And you know, maybe how he performs in this game could possibly dictate what happens going forward. But I think the question was is this the last full workload for him. Yeah. It's the land. And would you be trading him like you had vies for previously? Leaks. If you can left bell needs to report by what week ten right? The trade deadline is this Tuesday. That's that's the current near. I it was it was going to be he's coming back at the by week. But then the by we cabinet was well as the trade deadline is worried about the trade deadline. The only thing that we know for sure is that he has to report by week ten to have free eligibilities fair. So at this point, I don't think it's the trade deadline issue. Maybe I'm wrong on that. But even if it is a trade deadline issue. That's tuesday. They're going to report on Monday. And he's not going to be there. And he's not going to be. There is very James Connor gets a full workload next week juju Smith Schuster right now. Eight in the league and targets per game. He has dominated Cleveland in two career games. Nine for one forty three and a touchdown. And then in week one five for one nineteen feeling very cozy with juju all all Donald all passing members for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Shelby started the two and five colts take on the one in five raiders in Oakland, the raiders or three point underdogs at home, a fifty and a half point over under and the feature back. Doug, Martin makes his debut. It's Doug Martin Jordy Nelson. Martavis Bryant Jared cook show, Mike. Wow, how much would you pay for that ticket? What year is it? That's a good question. Four years ago. This would be a hot tea team is lit. Yeah. I mean, yes, they're at home. Yes, they're coming off the bye. But you you grimace when you talk about star. Anybody from Oakland? Right. Do you really feel confident and Jordy Nelson because Amari Cooper is gone. I do there's going to be opportunity. You know, look the culture going to score because the raiders can't stop anybody in the colts offense has been looking better. And better I'm a big fan of Frank Reich. The new head coach and interlock has I think put to bed all the shoulder questions and worries over these I seven weeks of the season. So if there's scoring and the raiders have to throw the ball. There's no colts. This is not a colts defense. It's going gonna scare me where I think if Jordy Nelson gets ten plus targets he's going to be fantasy relevant that doesn't necessarily mean he's you know, a top fifteen wide receiver. But he's a guy that I think should be started in most situations. Okay. All right. Some get some Martavis Bryant hype coming out this morning. Greg Olsen really excited about Martavis. The hype train. Yeah. I mean, Martavis is an interesting speculative type of ad it had a burner spot. And you wanted to throw him on there because we've seen him. We've we've seen him be of a quality fantasy producer before he's got the speed to do it. I don't know. The Derek Carr is willing and wanting to throw the ball down healed. That's the bigger problem from our tavis if you're going to get production. It's because a wide receiver screen turned into seventy or play. Yes. And Martavis can do that he has the ability. But that's a that's a low probability thing to be counting on needs a go route. But cars not going to throw the Martinez said seventy two percent snap count in before the bye week with Amari Cooper, thirty four routes run. That will go up so interesting that he was get seeing now much time beforehand. We've talked enough about Doug Martin. I mean, he's averaging three yards of carry since twenty sixteen. It is not why Mike. Gloves them so much. Yeah. Mike, Mike gloves and because it's a low. It's kind of a you can handle that low of a yards per carry. Mike feels like he could go jogging with them and keep up. I'll probably could do that till your shin started hurting. Yeah. He's holding a cramps right now. I have a cramp is doll. We talked about desperate times when I was talking about Duke Johnson. I would rather flex Doug Martin than Duke Johnson. Can we at least agree on? I would rather flex gentleman Sharda over both. You didn't give you that option. While you have it now is the and Rb to NPR leaks. Jalen machar? Yes. Colts given up the third most receptions to the running back position seems like he'd be a nice DFS target to in Rashard is already got thirty one receptions on the year, sixth among running bags. Yeah. Jason loves Jared, cook, let's say I do he's my start of the week. I, you know, look, I here's a good example. And people might say, it's crazy. I think Jared cook has a better game than Eric Hebron in this. Same matchup. Eric Brown has been on fire. You know was catching all the touchdowns. But t y Hilton is back the raiders have been okay against tight end because they've been so bad elsewhere. And this might not be an Eric Brown game. If Marla MAC is out are you going Jim Hines you go in Jordan Wilkins, Eileen Hines hard pass on all really against the raiders. If if Marla MAC is out you're not gonna start any of those running. I guess I would flex name Hines. Yeah. Okay. Jack Doyle becomes back to you start Hebron. You brought them up. Like, what does Jack do not start -able? No agreed. I would still say Iran is startled. Okay. The one in six forty Niners. Take on the one in six cardinals. Speaking of hard pass fans will be answered this game distributing. You know, they do the giveaways their twenty the first twenty thousand fans get those devices, the hold your eyes open. Oh, very automatically probably Gordon. And then the other twenty thousand are given blindfolds that is so funny that my plugs there's going to be more than twenty thousand people. There will be over sixteen thousand extra apparatus is available after the game. But those four thousand new offense coordinator. Yeah. This is ninety left away line. Mike McCoy is gone Byron left, which is in charge. He was the right hand man of Bruce Arians. As a lot of great quotes circulating from his press conference yesterday about how he was shoulders shoulder. A lot of nights nodding off with Bruce Arians. He's going to incorporate everything from that. It is. And you know. Are we buying that hype? Because look you can't do worse. It was so frustrating to watch David Johnson constantly get rushed right up the middle for no gain. So frustrating. You do anything else, and you're going to get more value. So there's more value. Here. These quotes weren't there. When we brought it up on Monday. I mean, correct once Mike McCoy was fired. My my approach was look buyer leverage was part of Bruce Arians coaching staff. Anything that's not Mike McCoy. That's a plus anything. That is Bruce Arians. That's a plus David Johnson doing anything, but running it up the middle. That's a plus so yeah, I was targeting him everywhere. David Johnson is a top twelve running back rest of season. He's been a top two. Missile this season. Yeah. It's a good matchup. I I still do have my concerns with Josh Rosen the interior of the offensive line and the overall offense. They don't have a lot of great weapons Christian. Kirk is an ascending talent. Larry FitzGerald is a descending talent. And then there's no body else. Larry FitzGerald, though, there is some talk about him being more involved. Do you have any interest in picking them up off the waiver wire? See what happens or no, yes. One hundred percent. I have interest in picking them up off the waiver wire. This is not a homered thing. I remember in the off season. You guys criticizing me on hate, Larry FitzGerald so much. He's been injured. If you remember the first week of the season right before the injury seven for seventy six he was still involved the most targeted the number the clear number one target, and then he's been injured and hobbled not doing well last week four forty got the touchdown. He's at home. We talked about the difference it splits between home and road for Larry. I don't expect Christian Kirk to be the leading receiver in this week's game. I expect it to be Larry FitzGerald. Would you pick up FitzGerald over Kirk? If you are trying to grab a season long option. I would know Kay. Okay. And then on the other side of the ball. We've talked already about the breed situation. Colonel mustard in the conservatory, but Markey's Goodwin is he a good boom. Play this week right now averaging fifth in the league in average depth the target six among running backs or I'm sorry amongst wide receivers and fantasy points per target. But I you know, big boom bust play. Yes. Big boom. We've we've now seen big boom big busts in the past two weeks from Markey's Goodwin. So if if you're gonna play him, you're accepting that you may receive two points, while Pierre gar son is he's gonna he's not going to place. He's gonna miss the game. So that means I think good when is. Targets. More target, orange Kittle. Yes, I agree. George Kittle on his back and ride and I like the George Kittle understands fantasy. What was that? There was a quote about him saying how he was gave some extra get in the end zone because his fantasy coaches need points. Oh, thank you, George. We. I appreciate it. Yeah. I I remember that replay review. I didn't think he cut in and they gave it to. All right. The three two and one Packers traveled to Los Angeles to take on the undefeated. The rams. Yeah. Rams are nine and a half point favorites. A fifty six and a half point over under. You know, the Packers coming off the bye week. And this is the largest line. The biggest spread in terms of underdog that interrupters has ever had. I was I I was unaware of that. I did not see that staff. I was literally going to pose that question. I can't ever remember Aaron Rodgers being in this situation. But that's their disrespecting the rocket launch record of the Packers. What does that three to one? Oh is this blast off blasts doll? I now. That's what the record says. Anyway. Got it. I am a fan of the record blast. I I'm going to be honest. I thought of that joke during the the the brand name the Steelers matchup, but ended up I didn't have time to use. It some opportunity presented itself. Again. I could not pass it up. Well, really, there's nothing more to cover it. All right. All right. No. I mean, I in some ways that's true because you're starting Roger just starting golf girly, cooks woods Davante Adams. Yeah. And Davante Adams. So I think the questions that I have one at one is about Jimmy Graham because I kind of like I've been offered Jimmy Graham and leagues I've I've had Jimmy Graham starting against me. I always feel like I'm happy that he's starting against me. But he's kind of playing well, and you know, he's averaging seven and a half targets per game. He's been tied in one in four straight games and players like Jared cook have exploited. The Rams defense. Funneling things in the middle of the field is he a top-five tied in this week. Yeah. I think he is there's going to be so so many passing yards in this game. And the over under is fifty six and a half, which is very high. I'm slamming the over on this. I well, I can't fathom them. These two teams not being able to both score. When needed so. Yeah, I think Jimmy grandma's valuable three of his seven games. He's been over seventy five yards for a tight in. That's crazy and coming into the season. We thought it was going to be all of his touchdown opportunities that made him special. So I I like Jimmy Graham quite a bit in this game. The only breaks that I'm going to tap here for Jimmy Graham. They didn't have anyone. I mean, the you had your devante Adams, and then rookie wide receiver suit they held their own. But they were but they're still rookies and not necessarily as reliable in those third down situation. Correct. So I think that Jimmy Graham did receive an uptick of opportunity because of the injuries and now Jeronimos back Randall Cobb is back at least for now. So I'm not opposed at all to calling Jimmy Graham. He's a tight end one. If you have to start a running back on on the Packers this week. You are starting Aaron Jones Mike or Jason. Yeah. It would it would be Aaron Jones. I think there's a chance for. A larger game this week from Aaron Jones. But I would rather not. I want to say I'd rather not start them. But I think he's actually going to be okay. You have to pick one you're picking up. Yes. One hundred Todd Gurley has fourteen touchdowns. He is on pace to break. The single season record wanted to briefly bring this up because I brought up the other day. You know, what if the Rams clench early do they play girly in week sixteen? I hope he remains on pace to rake the record because last year the Rams did struggle as Mike said after resting their players in week seventeen despite the fact that you know, they could have gotten the three seat, although it was not just the up to them. It was dependent on other teams. If girlies on pace for a record. If flips the script entirely because then they're playing for the record. I mean matai Darley's on the field, and Sean McVeigh's agenda is to get a player. He touchdown record. That is the best case scenario for fantasy running back because I didn't want to send panic and chills through people's souls. When I said, hey, maybe girly get sat we all said on the show, we're not moving, and we're not really doing anything about it. But there is the world. We're tied goalie wins you and title because he is going for a record. He has the most tied with priest Holmes for the most through the first seven weeks of the season. So he is well aware of where he's at on that record, and it is important to him reported. So I mean, it'll be so coming down to week sixteen. It'll be the first time a running back will be the running back one in the week with four Carey's. Oh, really? Yeah. It'll be all Malcolm Brown. Oh. Until the end up. They'll get down to the one. Okay. All right. I get in their early. So hell four carries and four touchdowns. It hasn't been confirmed that will fuller is out for the season with horn. Right ACL. Sucks. He looked defeated on the field after that play. He didn't even look in pain. He just looked like resigned and that that's thanks cause two times in that game. Mike out out of the blue just posted in our slack channels after LA. We'll fuller is really fast. There are very few players in the NFL that can do what will fuller can do. Tyreek hill stinks. He spent injury prone until career is it's really really sad. Because this is an offense. We saw it the second half last year before Watson got injured. And now, they're they're rolling. This is an offense. It could be a monster. Yes. Our fantasy and for just the NFL. I mean three weeks into the season when the Texans were Owen three Vegas odds on favourite to be the first coach fired was Bill O'Brien. And now they're five other going to win the division or look like, well, yeah. This is a huge book if the Jags don't figure things out that is what's going to happen. The five and one saints take on the four. And one Vikings in an exciting Sunday night football game. I love it. When you have a the prime time games just filled with fantasy players fifty two and a half point over under the Vikings are one point home favorites. And look I this is exciting. This is our rematch from the Minnesota miracle Stefan digs. Walk-off and I love digs in this game. He's missed start of the week. Looking at the story lines for this matchup. It starts with the tavis marine Delvin cook in the situation. We know that cook is going to be out. A while couple grade games. I mean latavius Murray. Went from dud fill-in to stud fill in week. Six was our b seven weeks seven was the Rb six. But you know, what do you think about him in this game at home? I am not a big fan of latavius in this game. Now, can you start him? Absolutely. I was in the big fan of him last week. And he's still came through the jets Rb six. Yes. But the jets the saints rush defense has been very good there. The third best against fancy points given up against the running back position. And I think this will be a higher scoring game where it's not going to be perfect for the running game script. And then you've got a tough de now, he'll he'll get the volume. So he's okay. To me, though. He is not a top. Top twenty running back. He's in that low in Rb two or a flexible Rb three. That's how I I see them despite how great he's been the last two games. Okay. Let's let's talk about Allen chimera. Let's talk about Mark Ingram. They're both must starts in this game. Despite the tough match-up Kamera is always the most start Ingram is the one where you can take a look and decide if you wanna play him or not I will just lay out my personal scenario. I have to I need to running backs between the three guys of Nick Chubb carry on Johnson in Mark Ingram. Yeah. Who are you planning as of right now? Mark Ingram is on my bench. Okay. So you don't have to play him. And he's not a must bench either. He's just he's similar to similar to latavius Murray. Fringe running back to Murray or Ingram. Green questions. That is a great question. I would take Ingram. What is well. All right. Trae Kwan Smith was you know, he was a big discussion point for the waiver show is he a legit flex play in this game. Or are we kind of? Yes, you know on the road against Minnesota Jit flex he'll be legit flex play every single week. Yeah. I completely agree. I I don't know that every single week, but this is going to be a high scoring game. So I I would love trae Kwan Smith as one of those shoot for the moon seventy yard touchdown flex options. What about Kyle Rudolph? Yeah. Yeah. He he plays tied in. For the Minnesota Vikings. The saints are great teammate. Great teaming. Yeah. A great friend of the show solid guys right on down the podcast. But this is. If you got him, you're probably playing him. But like, okay, we'll just we'll go same game. Which would you rather play Colorado or play Ben y was looking at this same thing because Ben Watson has been so involved. The Vikings are actually not that good against tight end. Whereas the saints are and I was thinking I was thinking the exact same question. Who would I rather start? And I see no difference between them I see them as identical players the one that scores your happy with if they don't score you're not happy with them at all been Watson this whole year. That's been the story. So I don't think I see them any different. So I think I would start Rudolph. Yeah. I don't feel good about it. I would probably do that too. Because they're the favorite now. It'd be my defining factor being at home. All right. Let's talk about the Monday night football game the five and two patriots. Take on the two and five bills. The bills are at home. The bills are fourteen point underdog. Holy crap. The bills have filed a petition to simply simulate this game in the. In a computer display it on mad and file away. This we accept all results. We just wanna keep everybody else healthy. No. I mean, look when you break it down the bills don't have their starting quarterback. The bills might not have their starting running back. The bills have no tangible actual starting wide receivers on the roster. And Charles clay leads the way with about three catches a week. So they is there any scenario where we're surprised with a lack of patriot production in this game on the road divisional match up. The bills have had a couple of randomly surprising defensive performances this year. That's what it would have to be would have to be one of these shocking. Bills performances. We've seen it twice already. But you see you in fantasy football you play the probabilities several weeks ago, we you know, we were light up your Vikings against the bills that was wrong. But the process was still right. You have to play the odds on favourite for what the results going to be and the patriots should destroy. The heck out of the bills. So I'm fine with pretty much all of the patriots. Is you said destroy the heck out of the Bill. Yes. The patriots defense and their defense special teams that's going to be. I mean, they might be the highest score outside of Tom Brady right over under six touchdowns from the I think I think you might be surprised with with their defense. I think they'll be obviously there are top five star. But. I, you know, it's not Peterman. Is that good? I don't know. If that Anderson one really bad. How does the gronk injury change target distribution? If you were to miss the game. How excited are you for Gordon for Ataman? Do they move here? I'm very excited for Adam. And that's always my started the week. And yeah, I mean, these guys are starting for you regardless you flex Chris HOGAN if grunk is out. Yes. James white. Also, great play. Josh, gordon. I would be willing to play Brady, obviously, Sony. Michelle probably won't play on the Bill side of the ball. The only player that I would play is shady or Chris ivory, man. I bills are the only defense by the way that has not allowed over three hundred passing yards in a game. If gronk I'm gonna say this. If gronk is out the bills are covering the spread. This games. This game will be seven points or less. If the Enron is out. That's my that is my hot take. I'm not gonna go almost. I'm not an absolute lunatic. But I do you have an almost upset this week. I did it was the lions game. Okay. All right before the daily dose. I do want to jump into a couple of injury updates. The buccaneers head coach Dirk cutter on the show one on the show. But during the show jerk. You're welcome to come on. Yeah. Anytime you want. He said pain Barbara's good to go. I know there was some some bullish. Doc about Ronald Jones yesterday, knowing what you like to dispose of that. That's crumpling up throwing the garbage. I mean, the reality is we thought that coming out of the by. It was going to be the Ronald Jones show. It wasn't. It was the Peyton barber show. That's the starting running back. You're just gonna have to deal with it Ronald Jones fans deal with it. It's going to be painful. I mean, enjoy your disappointment regardless. The daily dose brought to you by draft. All right last week. I whipped you guys. But yeah, you did you did. Yeah. My second loss still reeling. What are we doing today? Mike we're doing a quarterback draft. All right. I've heard of that. So if you're not familiar, you can check out draft dot com slash ballers get in on the action and go play some draft DFS, but you already know how to play. Yeah. I don't get the first pick though. As of right now with will hold Jason has the first pick. So. This. Yeah. It's really not fair. It's really not unfair in a quarterback only that you get the first pick. I guess someone someone has to get the first pick and look so who you going I'm gonna stay in. I know you're going to say, I know what you're going to send you Mitchell Trubisky because you want to stand by him. No. I sure my guy has to be. Patrick mahomes. He's everyone's number one quarterback until he's not. Yeah. And I followed that up taking Aaron Rodgers in the in the insane over under in scoring that we're projecting for the Rams Packer game. I went Big Ben Kirk cousins interest in Kirk cousins, I like cousins at home against New Orleans because New Orleans can score and Kirk cousins can score. I'm very happy. I thought for sure you would take Jared garf-. But now, I've got that entire entire match. Yeah. Very happy about it. I I love that. I was really hoping to get Jared Goff. Unfortunately, I did not. But drew Brees is not too bad of a consolation prize. And you know, the Oakland Raiders defense. They don't scare me much. Andrew luck has been just excellent. I like what their offense is doing. So I'm machine right now. And I'm James Winston it's going to be my third quarterback against Cincinnati. Well, I'll go with truth Bisky. Oh, combine them with my start of the week. Andy Dalton at home against Tampa Bay feel good about that. You guys are gonna lose to me again. All right. Well, then I'll take the ball. Take the player that I- bypass the first time. That's Tom Brady. No chance to three hundred yards. Man. You hear that stat? I I was that's that's very upsetting. Because that's twice in a row. I wanted Goff and Brady ended up leaving them to Mike and Carson Wentz. Now, what are the rules? Can I take the Shawn Watson? No, no, no, no. Because already played. Yeah. You already play, and you guys are very particular. I am going to take Matthew Stafford then oh that means I'm going booty scooting. I am braving the injury. Yeah. To Cam Newton by not. But he's Cam Newton. And I'll close it out with Russell Wilson. That's my almost upset of the week Seattle beating Detroit in Detroit, they are three point dogs. So I guess I guess we're done. I have raw big big been Kirk cousins. Mitch trubisky. Andy Dalton Russell Wilson to win to win the whole thing not bad. I've got Patrick Mahomes who's like having him. So he's like two guys. Drew brees. Andrew luck Carson Wentz and Matthew Stafford and the current projected winner morning to draft this team Rogers Goff Winston Brady booty scooting. Yeah. You I'm actually great with the projected winner thing. You just haven't really executed on the actual winter thing. I find that insulting. Well, he is directly insulting. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I find your insults. Well, we insulting. It's very I make sense here because you've been around Jason we were projecting his legal record team. Nothing. Nothing that did not say who else. Can I insult Brooks? You got a bad face Brooks. Take that house billions treating you. Are you done filming this season there judge? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Baby. Josh maybe Josh was born yesterday. So yes, and here's how our closing the show. We played red dead redemption last night. There's a couple of moments that we were joking reminded us of, you know, live in that Oregon trail life, and then baby Josh is like I played Oregon trail grown up. And then we realized he he played like you did in version eleven because we were we were talking like, oh, gee, doctrine my day. Lacks screen, Terry. It was green everything was green. You're darn right. It was that's how we and we liked it. We loved it. We did. But then it got better. And now I like the new version. I don't know where I was lock this week in your games. Don't forget to both book plan vote have a wonderful. We hope you are the banker version of organ trail. Goodbye. Thank you. For listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the SF ballers.

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