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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Unexplained Mysteries

Unexplained Mysteries

08:06 min | 5 months ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Unexplained Mysteries

"Prominence in the UFO community in nineteen eighty after publishing Brooke about the alleged Nineteen forty-nine Roswell U. F. O. Crash as we discussed in the last episode Air Force. Oh aside then offered more proof that you chose existed and the government was covering them up. In exchange more agreed to report on the UFO communities latest research in his pursuit for the real truth about Aliens Moore helped spread misinformation among the Ufo community. Around nineteen, Eighty, eight, he came clean about his involvement with the Air Force Oh sl and ufologists where rejected him as a pariah? Apparently, it was the exact reaction. The Mirage men wanted toward the end of doty's interview with Mark Pilkington doty unloaded some Intel about America's highly classified dealings with extraterrestrials. According to him in the late nineteen seventies, he was singled out to take part in a top secret counter intelligence program doty sat through a briefing regarding how the United States air force was countering unauthorized disclosure of technology to the public by using the UFO phenomenon as a cover debriefing provided the blueprint doty used to mislead Paul Benowitz in nineteen seventy nine. However, the air force wasn't just trying to cover up its experimental technology as part of the meeting dody and his colleagues also had to watch a film shot in the late nineteen forties or early fifties. Even, for a Mirage man, the footage sent chills down his spine. It showed a devastating crash site in Roswell New Mexico. Debris from some kind of aircraft blanketed the ground as rescuers recovered what looked like bodies extra terrestrial bodies, the film cut from the site of the wreck to an interrogation room behind a table set an extra terrestrial species officials in the room appeared to be trying to communicate with dody didn't explain in much detail what the being looked like. But the film ended with narration about the ongoing relationship between the United States government and alien civilizations. As someone experienced with misinformation, doty was initially skeptical about the movie clip. He thought his superiors might be testing him or it was some sort of psychological training. But after the film concluded an Air Force Colonel addressed the group. He discussed how America's relationship with extraterrestrials had changed since initial contact with the Roswell crash in nineteen forty seven. As the colonel spoke Dodi's doubts fell away reminiscent on the meeting. Doti said the more the colonel spoke the more I realized that what I saw was real. This guy wouldn't be standing here talking to us with the people in the room briefing into this high level program. If it was a hoax, the irony of a man in uniform convincing doty of an alien presence on Earth didn't register with the agent. Even though he used the same trick on Paul. Benowitz. Not long after of course, there is the possibility that Dodie used pieces of his interview with Pilkington to spread disinformation. As we mentioned earlier, everything he said, should be taken with a grain of salt. He may have retired from his service and sat in front of the camera as an ordinary citizen. But his track record makes him tough to believe that said taken at face value. His confession provides some deeper insight into why air force. Os I recruited William more so aggressively. The details in Moore's book the Roswell Incident Aligned with the information doty provided about the video he watched of the crash site. If Moore's book edge too close to the truth the government could have viewed it as a threat to national security to keep their secret safe more needed to be discredited indeed Moore's relationship with Air Force Osi ultimately resulted in his humiliation and disrepute. Moore's fellow ufologist booed him offstage at his last public appearance leaving his reputation permanently destroyed. Of course, assuming that Moore's book did tread too close to the real story. The government required more far-reaching action to prevent the public from finding out the truth in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine around the time doty received his Roswell briefing. The freedom of Information Act resulted in the declassification of a trove of documents that proved government agencies actively pursued and researched. UFO's this triggered a new responsibility for Mirage men in addition to preventing ufologists from becoming too credible, they needed to generate a large volume of forged documents. These fake records diluted the real ones making it near. To separate. From fiction, the preponderance of fraudulent documents made most people dismiss anything ufo related as a hoax. UFO Historian Richard Dolan compares it to receiving a vaccination. He told Documentarian 's demonstrably false ufo stories become inoculations. When the doctor inoculate you from disease he gives you a little bit of it, and then your immune system recovers deals with it, and now you're immune to it. Without the ability to reliably fact, check mainstream news media didn't cover UFO sightings or relegated them to puff local interest stories. Therefore, the public was most commonly exposed to ufo's in movies or on TV, making it easy to brush off anyone who tried to take the subject seriously media and entertainment networks intentionally presented alien activity as science fiction in order to control public opinion. It best served the Mirage men's purpose if no one looked too hard into aliens, if the world viewed extraterrestrial encounters as fake news, but the tides might be turning as we mentioned at the beginning of last episode. UFO's made mainstream headlines in April twenty twenty, the Pentagon declassified to videos of potential ufo sightings recorded by naval pilots. The Official Department of Defense statement accompanying the videos ended with this tantalizing quote. The aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as. Unidentified This release was an characteristic of the government's ultra secret approach up until this point. In response to the videos retired Democratic Senator Harry Reid of Nevada tweeted. I'm glad the Pentagon is finally releasing this footage, but it only scratches the surface of research and materials available. The US needs to take a serious scientific look at this and any potential national security implications. The American people deserve to be informed Psalm. The UFO community believed that something must have happened in the relations between the United States government and extraterrestrials that necessitated a change in their secretive policies. Perhaps, Mirage men like Richard Doty are being retired in favor of agents with a new, even more radical approach. Openness and honesty, and.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Unexplained Mysteries

Unexplained Mysteries

06:58 min | 5 months ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Unexplained Mysteries

"Well to unexplained mysteries a podcast original. I'm your host Molly and I'm your host Richard in life. There's so much. We don't know. This show we don't take we don't no for an answer, every Tuesday and Thursday we investigate the greatest mysteries of history and life on earth. You can find episodes of unexplained mysteries and all other park asked originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. To stream unexplained mysteries for free on spotify, just open the APP and type unexplained mysteries in the search bar. This is our first episode on the men in black or as they were later known Mirage men. No matter what they're called their mission is to spread fear confusion and disinformation among the UFO community. This episode will cover the history of men in black and how as their shadowy methods evolved they became known as the Mirage men. Next episode, we'll question the purpose of their secretive operations many believe the groups protect confidential military technology and off you skate existing relations between governments and extraterrestrials. Others claimed that the men in black are aliens themselves. We have all that and more coming up stay with us. The phrase men in black might call to mind the film franchise of the same name starring Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones the movies were hugely popular raking in hundreds of millions at box offices worldwide the film subject matter actually aligns quite well with the stories of their alleged real life counterparts. When dispatched to the scene of an alien encounter? The men in blacks purpose was to keep witnesses quiet except in actual accounts, the men in black never had technology capable of efficiently erasing witnesses memories. They had to resort to uglier tactics like intimidation, confiscation and brute force. According to UFO researchers or as they call themselves, ufologists reported interactions with men in black followed a similar pattern. They arrived unannounced at the home or workplace of an individual who recently had an alien encounter of some kind. This could range from citing two an abduction occasionally, the men in black showed up alone. But more typically they traveled in groups of two or three agents were always men never women dressed in black suits, fidora's and dark sunglasses. After ensuring cooperation from their intended target, they disappeared without a trace most reports of the men in black occurred during a period of Ufo mania from the late forties through the seventy S. Around, the nineteen eighties it is believed that the organization pivoted. Rather than using intimidation tactics, the mysterious agents to come more oblique approach. They became known as the Mirage men a term popularized by author and UFOLOGIST Mark Pilkington. Arguably more menacing than their predecessors, their agenda became much harder to untangle. The first reported incident with the men in black was almost seventy five years ago on the morning of June twenty-seventh Nineteen Forty, seven, Herald doll sailed his boat with his son Charles and his dog off the shore of Maury. Island near Washington state doll and his son were in logs from the water. When he noticed something odd the sky half mile above their boat dull counted six round metallic objects that he later described as donut shaped. They floated in the air defying gravity as he watched them dance he felt the hair is on the back of his neck dull reached for his camera and snapped a few photos. As he did one of the objects plummeted in seconds it fell nearly fifteen hundred feet it crashed into the water and exploded metal shards flew in every direction. One fragment sliced open Charles arm as it soared by another struck their beloved family pat. Doll rushed his injured son and dog back to shore one set of harm's way doll developed his photos. He thought maybe his memory had played tricks on his mind. But the developed pictures proved otherwise there. They were documented in black and white six unidentified flying objects unlike anything he'd ever seen before. Charles's wounds recovered, but unfortunately, their family dog passed away from injuries related to the explosion. However, doll had little time to mourn or process the experience before the men in black came calling the following morning less than twenty four hours after dolls spotted the objects, a stranger in a black suit knocked on his front door. Bewildered doll listened as the man precisely outlined their otherworldly encounter from the previous morning before dull could ask questions the man in black stopped him. allegedly. He said what I have said is proof to you that I know a great deal more about this experience of yours then you will want to believe the man was right. Dow was speechless. He had no idea how the suited man learned of the encounter or traveled to the remote island in less than a day it didn't make any sense. The Stranger. Then warned doll to never speak of the incident otherwise so-called bad things would happen doll listened he destroyed every photograph taken doll did end up speaking about what he saw though I to his friend Fred Crispin and later to the press. But dull only dared to share his experience after another man Kenneth Arnold received media attention for spotting a UFO in June nineteen, forty, seven, doll- and Arnold brought forward to the first ever widely publicized ufo sightings. Their stories kicked off a frenzy of hundreds more reported ufo sightings. Many included visits from the men in black but none are more famous or more chilling than nineteen seventy six encountered that happened.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Conspiracy Theories

Conspiracy Theories

01:41 min | 2 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Conspiracy Theories

"For benowitz to discover and gave him phony computer software that could interpret some of the signals he was intercepting tragically this threw him into a manic state the mania grew so severe that in nineteen eighty eight ben witches family was forced to check them in to a psychiatric hospital well this is the most famous case of government manipulation of susceptible believers it is far from the only example around the same time that benowitz began picking up air force chatter the military ran tests for experimental silent helicopters and purposefully attached flashing lights to the aircraft to fool any civilians that might see the aircraft mark pilkington writer of the book mirage men that inspired the documentary was the first interview rick doty who infiltrated conspiracy theorist circles he said of dodie quote some of what he said was true and i'm sure a lot of it wasn't i have no doubt rick was at the bottom of a ladder that stretches all the way to washington and quote the takeaway here is that the men in black operate with psychological warfare they target those who desperately wanna believe in ufo's or gullible in a way that makes them susceptible to manipulation it sounds cruel but it's also highly effective once people who generally operate on the fringe of society become associated with aliens society at large as more hesitant to believe any encounters they may have had it's a double edged sword that the men in black sharpened to perfection.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

WNYC 93.9 FM

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM

"At explores the artifacts that shape our lives directed by mark pilkington now playing ellen burstyn in person at select shows carnegie hall which presents carlos miguel prieto conducting the louisiana philharmonic orchestra on february 27th the program includes glasses concerto fantasy for to timpanist sin orchestra tickets at carnegie hall dot org the public theater now presenting the american premiere of the low road a pair of all about the true cost of equality from play right bruce norris and director michael greiff more formation in tickets at public theater dot org wnyc is a media partner of on air fest featuring lorry anderson wnyc's kyw right and talent from the moss espn thirty four thirty latino oh you essay and more march second to fourth at brooklyn's weis hotel on air fest dot com hey everybody i'm billy mitchell historian tour director at the worldfamous apollo theater in harlem stay tuned in to the bbc world service as we continue to explore the past present and future of this legendary institution when an escape from war isn't an escape at home they leave perhaps their communities their properties their families everything they've ever known to throw themselves into a future that's profoundly profoundly uncertain after nearly seven years of fighting in syria.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Channel 33

Channel 33

01:30 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Channel 33

"I mean i have made it i mean i have made the movie i i am involved with it to to to direct yeah i don't know i mean it just depends it's claiming honestly like it's a lot of work time you beginning to go visit the sat director marc forster seeing what he does the toll on your life and years of i mean it's just it's a lot of work i don't know i don't know how interest and i am working that much on something uh uh but you could see yourself writing something like this again oh easily i mean that's the hope and that certainly the intention and uh you know like it's not that i am lazy it's just there is a lot that i like about being onset making movies and there's a lot that i saw on that said that really terrified me about being the person who has to do all that stuff which is not to say that it's not for me it's just to say uh i don't really feel like i am i'm very yet where i my ideas can only be reached if that's the kind of moving i making right now they're all still kind of in in the ballpark of things i understand but ideally there are things that can come to me in the future when they feel qualified to make them that might put me closer to that which is exciting and you know for the other movie the so i also wrote this movie that comes out you know now wish call nostalgia britain for a director mark pilkington uh only only writing movies for marks.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Fresh Air

Fresh Air

06:38 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Fresh Air

"Support for this NPR podcast and the following message come from bleaker street presenting nostalgia John ham, Catherine keener, Bruce Dern and Ellen Burstyn star in this film that explores the artifacts in memories that shape our lives directed by Mark Pilkington in selected theaters, Friday from WHYY in Philadelphia I'm teary gross with fresh air today. Religion scholar Kate bowler used to believe God had a plan for her life's long journey until she was diagnosed with incurable cancer, But she didn't lose her faith. I'm a big, Super Jesus. He hard over here. And it's so funny, It's just that I really had to rethink whites what trust and hope looks like if I'm just living scam to scan bowlers new memoirs about her illness and her faith following her diagnosis just started getting rid of thing. She thought her husband and young son wouldn't need after she was gone. It was my attempt to start slowly a racing myself And you. I've talked to people who say it took them a year to buy clothes because they can't imagine still having their body. And that was true for me to bowler teaches at Duke divinity school. Here's a few of the things. My guest, Kate bowler, doesn't want to hear about living with her incurable cancer. Everything happens for a reason. God is writing a better story. Heaven is your true home. God needs another Angel. It's not that she's lacking in faith. She just wants to avoid try it. Life lessons bowler is an associate professor of the history of Christianity in North America at Duke divinity school. Hernu memoir everything happens for a reason and other lies I've loved is about how her faith has affected the way she deals with cancer and our cancer has affected her faith. She also reflects on the paradox that her first book was about the history of the prosperity gospel, which preaches that God grants health and wealth to those with the right kind of faith bore was diagnosed in 2015 with stage for a colon cancer that had already metastasized. She's Mary. It has a young son and can't bear the thought of him growing up without her what's kept her alive in addition to colon surgery and chemo is experimental Immunotherapy treatments that helped shrink tumors. Kate bowler welcome to fresh air. I wanna ask you to start with a reading from the preface to your book. Oh, sure. Married in May 20th A baby and my 30s I want a job at my alma mater straight out of graduate school. I felt breathless with the possibilities. Actually, it's getting harder to remember what it felt like, but I don't think it was anything as simple as pride. It was certainty, plain and simple that God had a worthy planned for my life in which every setback would also be a step forward. I wanted God's make being good and make me faithful with just a few shining accolades along the way. Anything would do if hardships were only detours on my long life's journey. I believe that God would make away. I don't believe that anymore. Thank you for reading that. So listen after finishing your book, I need to know, how are you now? Where are you in your dream? Well, I'm moving from the crisis phase two of the chronic illness management fees. So now I get scans repeatedly instead of having regular treatment, and it requires a different kind of mentality before it felt like it was alarm bells all the time. And now it's just sort of a distant alarm sound and and a general sense of anxiety. So so what is the state of the cancer? Well, I have incurable cancer, So the hope is just that I-it doesn't grow and that the treatment I'm on keeps it at bay. And the the goal of with new developments in Immunotherapy Is that it could be like that forever, and that cancer might eventually be a chronic illness, but were so early on in Immunotherapy as it treatment that no one really knows. So in the book, There's a period where you're given you starting the Immunotherapy treatment and you get skins. I think you're like every two months. Yeah. Yeah, that's still happens every three months. Yeah. And so after each one euro. You were basically toe what you've got another two months or three months for sure of life, but that was the only certainty you had a you in that same kind of period where you're living from short interval too short in Oval with no certainty beyond that. Well, before it was especially terrifying because, um, with the experimental drug I was on, if the tumors grew, I knew I would get kicked out of the trial in that would be pretty much it for me. Um, so thankfully now it's, um, scan to scan feel slightly less terrifying because some they're starting to I mean, the the longer I live, the more information there is about someone like me. There's other little cohorts of folks like me, but it still is really scary. Okay. Was injured book is about how you religious scholarship and religious practices affecting how you cope with the illness, an It's about how the illnesses affecting your understanding of God. Let's start with religion, And let's start with a religion that you were immersed in for research. The prosperity gospel, which was the subject of your doctoral dissertations. Anna of your first book. So I wanna start with that Annan need you to describe the prosperity gospel, less sure. The prosperity Gospel is a movement that grew at a Pentecostal ism. That said that God rewards The faithful with health and wealth within the course of their human life. If they have the right kind of faith. So in the press Berti gospel, There's a direct connection between your prayers and how you are rewarded by God. The rewards are our money and material possessions as well as good health. So what the what does it mean within that create if you get sick like you've gotten sick, What's the double edged sword of a move? Like the prosperity gospel for people who experience tough times, It really can be tremendously empowering for a preacher to say, Look how you might be experiencing the pitfalls, but there is a cure. You just have to speak positively confess what they would say, your faith allowed, and you will name and clean these incredible miracles. But of course, the flipside is that

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on KFI AM 640

KFI AM 640

02:35 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Of just keep that out of his line of vision but i wouldn't they're constantly reminding him of this stuff and and sometimes it was a little much form i think the idea that uh somebody could implant and instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but as a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up at implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just yeah and there are on food i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning it it it's it's something that we have to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's likely ridic could all be related to that i just think there's simply too many contacts too many people too much for a variety of the oh jerry eishin once described over much too large of a geographical area because we're talking about the entire basically and i i just don't see it i but i do think it's quite possible then as certain amount of it is coming from uh when i see it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of this phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that coming from the government i and i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in uh jocularly has written about some of this on the raj men uh by mark pilkington documents whom amazing examples of this we're uh uh let's see for example the uh air force intelligence chief cozy um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we've we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations cia included two even even became elected officers and some of the organization spied on you of.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on WHO NewsRadio 1040 AM

WHO NewsRadio 1040 AM

03:18 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on WHO NewsRadio 1040 AM

"Of just keep that out of this line of vision but i went there constantly reminding him of this stuff and and sometimes it was a little much form i think the idea that uh somebody could implant in instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up and implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just yeah and there are no one that i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning in it's it's something that the at least has to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's like we did it could all be related to that i just think there's simply too many contacts too many people too much for a variety of the oh too much variation once described over much too large geographical area because we're talking about the entire earth basically and i just i just don't see it i'd but i do think it's quite possible then a certain amount of it is coming from uh when i see it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of this phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that is coming from the government i i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in um jacques velu has written about some of this oh mirage men uh my mark pilkington documents some amazing examples of this we're uh uh let's see for example the uh air force intelligence these phones he um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we've we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations see a included uh uh even became elected officers and some of the organization spied on you up over searchers and spread disinformation stories we're talking with david bore about his book no return you all tho duck shen or covert operation when we come back we'll open up the phone lines emerson in palmer from nineteen seventy lucky man take us into the break he the things are happening sas sas moving issue tower in florida hours dance in the coming.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

03:22 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"I was there constantly reminding him of this stuff in and sometimes it was a little much for him i think the idea that uh somebody could implant and instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up at implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just yeah in their own said i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning be good it's it's something that we have to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's like we did it could all be related to that i knew string theorists simply too many contacts too many people too much for a variety of g oh too much variation once described over much too large of a geographical area because we're talking about the entire earned basically and i just i just don't see it i but i do think it's quite possible then a certain amount of it is coming from when i see it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of this phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that is coming from the government i i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in um jacques villeneuve has written about some of this uh meraj men uh by mark pilkington documents some amazing examples of this we're uh uh let's see for example the uh air force intelligence eight phones he um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations cia included uh um even became elected officers and some of the organization spied on you off over searchers and spread this information stories we're talking with david bore about his book no return you off ball duck shen or koeberg operation when we come back we'll open up the phone lines amer and lake in palma from mateen seventy lucky man take us into the break this staying the most powerful names and talk are heard right here on talk radio six eighty wcbm baltimore.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

02:37 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"Much form i think the idea that somebody could implant in instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up and implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just yeah and there are good i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning it it's it's something that we have to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's likely riddick could all be related to that i do think there's simply who many contacts to many people too much variety of g o too much buryatia once described over much too large would geographical area because we're talking about being higher earth basically and i just i just don't see it i but i do think it's quite possible then a certain amount of it is coming from uh when i say it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of this phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that is coming from the government i i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in uh jacques villa has written about some of this on the rise man uh by mark pilkington documents some amazing examples of this we're uh uh let's see for example the uh air force intelligence eight phones he um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations cia included uh um even became elected officers and some of the organization spied on you also researchers and and spread this information stories we're talking with david bore about his book no return you off ball duck sioner koeberg operation when we come back we'll open up the phone lines emmer lake in palmer from nineteen seventy lucky man takes us into the break.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on 1410 WDOV

1410 WDOV

03:28 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on 1410 WDOV

"Of just keep that out of his mind their vision but i was there constantly reminding him of this stuff in and sometimes it was a little much form i think the idea that uh somebody could implant in instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up and implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just yeah and there are one that i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning it it it's it's something that the least has to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's like we did it could all be related to that i just think there's simply too many contacts too many people too much for variety uh uh the oh too much variation once described over much too large geographical area because we're talking about the entire earth basically and i just i just don't see it i'd but i do think it's quite possible then a certain amount of it is coming from uh when i see it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of this phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that is coming from the government i i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in um jacques velu has written about some of this oh mirage men uh by mark pilkington documents some amazing examples of this we're uh uh let's see for example the uh air force intelligence these phones he um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations see a included uh uh even became elected officers and some of the organization spied on you up over searchers and spread disinformation stories we're talking with david bore about his book no return you off a duck shen or covert operation when we come back we'll open up the phone lines emerson lake in palmer from nineteen seventy lucky man takes us into the break this they made trending on newsradio 1410 tell these deals like.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on KELO

KELO

02:52 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on KELO

"Of just keep that out of this line of vision but i was there constantly reminding him of this stuff and and sometimes it was so much form i think the idea that uh somebody can plant and instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up and implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just try and there are those that i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning in it's it's something that at least have to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's like we could all be related to that i just think there is simply too many contacts too many people too much for a variety of b o too much radiation once described over much too large geographical area because we're talking about the tired of earth basically and i i just don't see it i'd but i do think it's quite possible then a certain amount of it is coming from the when i see it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of the phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that is coming from the government i i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in um jacques velu has written about some of this oh mirage man uh by mark pilkington documents some amazing examples of this and we're uh uh let's see for example the uh air force intelligence phones he um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we've we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations cia included uh even became elected officers and some of the organization spied on you up over searchers and spread disinformation stories we're talking with david bore about his book no return you although duck sioner koeberg operation when we come back we'll open up the phone lines emerson lake in palmer from nineteen seventy lucky man take us into the break.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on KTRH

KTRH

02:48 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on KTRH

"That out of this line of vision but i was there constantly reminding him of this stuff and and sometimes it was so much for him i think the idea that uh somebody could implant and instruction uh you know this is a some other kind of intelligence you're not supposed to know about this don't tell anybody about it i mean we now know that in the abduction scenario but it's a legitimate question to ask whether or not the whole thing was made up and implanted by intelligence agencies as so i don't know just yeah and there are those that i think uh uh follow that line of reasoning in it's it's something that the aid we used to have to be considered a possibility it personally i don't think it's like we did it could all be related to that i just think fears simply too many contacts too many people too much for a variety of g o too much variation once described over much too large of a geographical area because we're talking about being higher basically and i just i just don't see it i'd but i do think it's quite possible then a certain amount of it is coming from uh when i see it i mean uh abduction phenomenon a certain amount of this phenomenon i think it's very possible that some of that is coming from the government i i guess uh i guess we even we can even see that with certainty because of some things that have come out uh including uh what came out in um jacques velu has written about some of this oh mirage men uh by mark pilkington documents some amazing examples of this we're uh uh we see for example the uh air force intelligence these phones he um actually uh you know that story the i do yeah we we've talked about it i mean they infiltrated a ufo organizations cia included uh um even became elected officers and some of the organisation's spied on ufl researchers and spread disinformation stories we're talking with david bore about his book no return you all thought duck shen or covert operation when we come back we'll open up the phone lines emerson lake in palmer from nineteen seventy lucky man take us into the break.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Pop Shop

Pop Shop

01:48 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Pop Shop

"And they really stick with you and your usually videos lucky to have one or two of those moments but jeremy has maybe dozens it's it's a pretty pre profoundly visual video and pressure uh ed just want to say that if you know if you're listening any do you think that the video like kind of comes off cheesy nowadays like you got to see that original version of the video because yes l art i write their seat there seems like eddie headbanging and seasonably miming putting a gun to his head and they're also just like shots lingering shots of a gun and it yeah it's so on the nose and it's so cheesy and iraq gives you an appreciation for you know what a subtle in in kind of artistic thing them are kind to deal with this other video uttar be as you mentioned other the circle certainly the thing about the video that generate the most discussion when it came out in years later and especially at the end of the nineties with above the columbine massacre and a number of other kind of school shootings that that really dominated the news was that the videos ending which originally as film by mark pilkington uh had jeremy now he will you strolled in the classroom he throws the youth or snapple to the teacher and then he sticks a gun is not the pull the trigger and you can see it fairly explicitly in the original version but mtv than one air that for survivors reasons and so they uh you know the kind of settled on a compromise edit where you see jeremy he stands for the class he he raises something in closes his eyes any any he could see him kinda clinching and then the lash out of the video or at least of lush on classroom is a shot of the kids in the classroom kind of reacting to what whatever he did which never actually see they've got blood on their shirts near images are kind of frozen and i remember having numerous debates about this back in the day does jeremy kill himself or does he shoot the rest of kids in the class and the right rib and and eric the thing that they're you know the ambiguity of that.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Pop Shop

Pop Shop

01:50 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Pop Shop

"And he didn't you know he he didn't really he did not a schmooze because these thirteen but like stevie nicks has chatting them up and i just thought what a great you know what a great scene here this kid is plucked from obscurity and he's sitting at a table with eddie vedder and and you know stevie nicks and he just i don't know john going around with the restaurant was what i'm sure some fancy restaurant in la and and that you know that's the last time probably any of those people saw him you know what i mean i mean maybe not at the scene over the it'd be like it was just such a fuss citra funny like weird moment um and i think it was kind of emblematic of what a fluke that was and how it was just this real it was like a firework you know just went up and then it was gone so going back to the video itself because he did write a really good second piece of about the anniversary that that when it today where she talked to mark pilkington and tom richmond the cinematographer and a couple of other people just about the video itself kind of separate from trevor story uh and one of the things that i found really interesting in it and i didn't know myself is that there was actually in original version of this video primark pelley to improve in assam be released a single but there is this this version i guess they the kind of filmed of all you on on on we can get away or whatever uh directed by somebody who you know doesn't have the nearly the resume the painting does clearly on a much smaller budget uh and they they thought themselves oh maybe this will be enough because we don't really like doing music videos anyway uh but then ilmor more clinton had this kind of couple of jesus moment and he decide you know what i want to go for the someone work with us band on this and i want to make this best video ever basically so what what what are your impression that original video legal how do you think outreach original video is is of apiece crooked rather to live videos i mean.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on Pop Shop

Pop Shop

01:38 min | 3 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on Pop Shop

"Yeah nowhere thank you so before we get into your piece which was really just an amazing awesome read anybody who hasn't ready yet hopefully have if you haven't you've got to check that out uh but before we get into that i just wanna talk back on on the video and an income to get your own general memories of it so know this was i think it was the third video released off ten after even flowing alive which both had videos but there were near mostly life videos basically this was the first truest video i think the pro jim ever did uh you know it had had a much bigger budget it was directed by mark pilkington who is you know an ntv alami than the is for you to you in pm dawn people like that uh and had a a very memorable story line so what were your initial impressions this video and you saw it back in 1992 uh what what what memories do you have evaded aid though did you think was cool that you like program at the time um well for topranking kind word um you know i was a child of grunge like i i came of age at a time when i was fully immersed than grunge i saw pearl jam on their first tour of the first major tour an attorney club madison wisconsin um but much like uh pelling ten and john norris uh former mtv a colleague of mine who also spoke to me for the story i was the nerve on a guy um you know uh i i i firmly was by nerve on i didn't i didn't dislike pro jam but i didn't really get them at first there wasn't it didn't speak to me in the same way that in our vaunted did uh i do remember the the jeremy video 'cause that was a time when people still watched mtv and and videos were big deal and i do remember um.

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"mark pilkington" Discussed on No Such Thing As A Fish

No Such Thing As A Fish

01:44 min | 4 years ago

"mark pilkington" Discussed on No Such Thing As A Fish

"And then a few others i found a not tell aji country file does he devil clumsy beekeeper on his tricks woah is that the donald trump related hacking wiretapping operation they were all so tadic likened really understand what they meant k i met a years ago i made a ufo documentary remember that back in two thousand fourteen and i went around meeting a lot of people who both believe in euros by met one guy as well code mark pilkington who made a documentary about the idea that governments are ceding this information into the field of ufo aji and things generally so they kind of creating distractions front and part of the leaks from the snowden leak was a power point that showed members who worked jc edge q how to spread disinformation it was the whole thing i really interesting said deleting this whole ghost hunting malaki is just a bit of a red herring to photos of this and the fact that and to all of our secret and maybe not going all i believe that the russian embassy is haunted let's go to see if we could move i think you'll up self his mr even of a liquor mouses moving organi it's a so i'm outside the front of g c h q uh there were these things called the listening stones have you guys her this an artist created them that these giant there's nine of these stones and they're carved with codes and some of them have just old headlines so the theory is that the stones are.

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