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O'Reilly Update Morning Edition, January 23, 2020

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

03:00 min | 1 year ago

O'Reilly Update Morning Edition, January 23, 2020

"Bill O'Reilly here and I'm warming up stand by for the O'Reilly Update Morning Edition. But First Deborah's home was stolen. I don't mean thieves stole stuff. I mean scammers stoled her home. Criminals found the title to her home online filed fraudulent documents men's claiming they owned it and eighty five thousand inequity gone. You should immediately go to home title. Loc Dot Com and register to see if your home title has been and tampered with your there. I got US sixty risk free days and protection please visit title Loc Dot Com home. Todd LoC dot com boys voices impeachment thing hard to watch. Are you saying late to watch it. I can't tell the difference between the impeachment hearings in the Senate and Little Stevie Colbert I mean the ideologies uh-huh where stevie anyway it's it's so repetitive both sides over and over and over here we get it. We get it you Democrats you think that that phone call. Ukraine was the worst thing ever we get it. We'll public ends. You don't think that it was an innocent cau- aw look the bottom line is and everyone knows this. President trump is not going to be removed from office now. There is a good column column on the hill website. By guy named Mark Penn.. Mr Penn helped Bill Clinton when he was in trouble when he was being impeached as president isn't so pen is not a Republican trump person but he says flat out. This impeachment is bad ed for the United States and it is. It's terrible. There's no upside here. It's a political play. We need to have immigration reform. We need to have healthcare before drug price relief. We need to get control of Social Security and Medicare all of those things are vital vital and these people hour after hour after hour on his. Bogus impeachment deal. It's outrageous and we're paying Dan. These people to be senators so this is not a great time for America and I hope it ends as soon soon as possible. Now this if you're not thinking about your company's online presence you're falling behind so please contact the Geeks at Geek town. USA USA. Love that Keith town. USA is your last offer. Any website search engine optimization or digital advertising need for your business let them develop a comprehensive of digital marketing strategy. That will blow your competition away visit Geek town. USA ONE WORD DOT COM and learn how you can get a custom. Website started surly two hundred ninety nine bucks a month. That's Gig Town U._S._A.. Dot Com. That is the morning O'Reilly update more analysis later on.

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Hard Factor 11/13: Secret Missile Bases in North Korea, Hillary 2020 Maybe, and a Nazi Themed School Photo

Hard Factor

19:35 min | 2 years ago

Hard Factor 11/13: Secret Missile Bases in North Korea, Hillary 2020 Maybe, and a Nazi Themed School Photo

"Wooded you Joe, man. Randy savage this factor in the risk. No one that does better like now. Yeah. Does it better repeat myself? Go ahead told me something right now. Not a rate. Farting another episode apart bacteria Tuesday, November thirteenth top source for the day west gonna take one about secret North Korean missile bases. Yeah. North Korea is back at it. Still never stopped pats going to do in about Hillary maybe running again for president twenty twenty just when you're midterms headache went away. I got another one for you. Nice. I'm going to do one about Nazi school kids allegedly. But they look pretty guilty and Markle tickets are some other headlines takeaway, Wes. Well, well, well, guess who's lying about having secret ballistic missile bases in developing nukes to the world again, you guessed it, the fearless little leader North Korea's leader Kim Jong Hoon, and he's not hiding just one he's hiding around a baker's dozen so far a little bears. Crawlers bears would win in a hurricane or Jordan. It john. So so far there's like thirteen, but they say there could be as many as twenty to be discovered when it's all said and done according to a report first published by the New York Times. Now, you might remember the summit took place in Singapore of this past June between own and President Trump after which President Trump assured the world that North Korea was no longer nuclear threat and would begin dismantling, blah, blah, blah. Well, that seems to not be the case at all. And North Korea is in fact, likely still advancing their nuclear development and ballistic missile capabilities in underground bunkers and various mountains throughout the countryside. Cute. Little bunkers Trump just takes these guys for the word. Absolutely hooters. Right. These they're all men of honor the good guys right next to the slave camps. He has going on something our intelligence agencies have known about but something that President Trump has yet to acknowledge tweets and and whatnot. And in fact, just a few days ago. Trump is quoted as saying he is quote, very happy with how it is going North Korea. That's great. He's happy with this whole nuclear thing and last Wednesday following the midterms President Trump also said we are no rush in reference North Korea. The sanctions are on the missiles of stopped the rockets of stopped the hostages are home. The people are still hungry. Yeah. Rodman's happy. Rodman is so happy. He he doesn't know shit about North Korea. Does they pay him? Yeah. Sorry about that from prisoners terrible. Not to be fair North Korea has not tested any missile since the summit. So one up on Trump. They're actually in about a year, but the development of nuclear weapons, and the means to launch those weapons has not, of course, telling Kim Jon not to build nuclear missiles is like telling a bird not the trip. He he loves like three things in life dinners celebrities and nuclear warheads. Yes. I anticipate in like great minds Astra physicists engineers disappear in North Korea quicker than angry like journalists in Russia, but they don't die. Just go down to a bunker. Yeah. Yeah. Another shitty. Fact is that a program to install satellites over North Korea ones that would detect if old Kim was about to launch the world into nuclear shit show has also stalled a warning system that was started by Obama and then handed over to President Trump. Yeah. North Korea claims that fulfilling their into the bargain, mainly giving up the location of their weapons and bases and nuclear sites would in a sense be giving the US list of targets. So clearly the trust that President Trump expressed towards earn. When Trump said that he owned quote fell in love during their summit was not mutual hold on hold on. But he said that he would denuclearize right. So targets targets for what for us to attack like if he doesn't have nuclear weapons than we would be attacking them. Why like to make their country worse? It's already ruined. Listen, guys. Love takes trust. Okay. Love takes trust. And if they fell in love you've got to trust the guy he's getting into those nukes your, right? Well, that's true. Yeah. I mean, the one factor means in all this is fucking crazy. He's one of the most ruthless dictators of all time. He's murdered in slaves. His own people carried on his family's regime of tyranny brainwashing. So he can do that to his own people. Imagine what he can do to other nations. He's fucking insane. Some people are saying that perhaps Trump does not want to admit. This fact because the summit was touted as one of his biggest achievements as president so far, and it appears to not be an achievement at all so far so. Handed Trump of photo of himself drawn by the best artists North Korea. And then shook his hand with equally small hands. And it was just that was it, but the the hands fit together they fit together perfectly. The biggest accomplishment was the photo of them shaking hands. It seems going to the internet. Kyle Jensen says, but Trump was really truly madly in love with him. He told us OMG Trump has been dumped Trump's furious about this. Trump is going to be furious about this. Let's let's be clear. What's he gonna do though? Sandy, LeBron said seriously and just where did you get that classified information from oh, the deep state to spread propaganda? Of course, talk about Q different q than our regular, see. What happens? I look let's talk about Hillary Clinton, y'all. We'll Hillary Clinton attempt to make a run for president and twenty twenty also point to problem. Maybe maybe. Why am I even bringing this up you ask? Well, that's because an op Ed piece titled Hillary Clinton will run again popped up in the Wall Street Journal on Sunday. The piece was penned by Mark Penn Andrew Stein pen was a former pollster and senior adviser for Bill from ninety five to eight Anderson is the president of New York City, aka still owes Hillary a lot of favors. The comic was wasn't a comic. It was an op-ed piece. He was serious. I think the article comes hard and fast with why Hillary will be seeking the presidency again describing Clinton as a robot throughout the entire article exploring like version one Hillary through today's Hillary four point. Oh, that's the Hillary. That's going to run for president Hillary wants the presidency more than once that ring. She wants. I can see I can imagine Hillary late at night like on her own Wikipedia page like writing in first female, president United States racing it and writing it again get busted for sock. Always checking the odds, she's got burner count. She's she's like what if Hillary ran again. Yeah. Can't have a burn accountable compete. That's why I'm banned Clinton's exactly what this is. She forced this guy that was her favors to like put a feeler out test testing the waters a hundred percent, and we'll get to that. Because there's another fact that points to the points to her potential wanting to run so she hasn't come out and said so much that she wants to run, but you know, she's been stewing since her loss. And this is what's interesting. She recently launched an organization called Anward together, which highlights quote, progressive values, mobilizing voters or running candidates for office. And the fishy thing is is the logo. Looks eerily similar to Hillary's twenty sixteen presidential campaign logo. Yeah. She's also been making a racist jokes on and like forums in college auditoriums. It's got a lot of time on her hands. Essentially, the argument that that the article makes is that MS. Clinton has a seventy five percent approval rating among Democrats, which is not true. What what's that's what they say? And she has an unfinished mission to be the first female president. That's true. Well, who knows if it's unfinished maybe finished. But yeah, for it's that's that's bullshit. Anyway, Hillary's only comment about a potential run was to Recode, and it was definitely not an I'm not running. She said, well, I'd like to be president. I hopefully, I think hopefully when we have a democrat in the Oval Office in January twenty twenty one there's going to be so much work to be done. So the work that would need to be done is work that I feel very well prepared for having been at the Senate for eight years having been a diplomat and the State Department is we remember where competitors. Exactly. Got one of those shitty apps where you like color in the pixels and stuff, it's just her in the White House. She's like doing just different designs, and how do it? Doodles all couches do. It's of writing the Wikipedia thing and the doodling yourself in the White House. She said two years to think about why she would be a good president again or what to say and she went right back to the same shit. She said in two thousand sixteen which I was in the Senate for eight years. It's like, I remember you lost just basically you are you to me America? I should be the president. How many times does she woken up? So angry God presents. She's like dreaming. She's the president. She's like no over Billy's, jerking off bills. Not there to cut the bullshit. Hillary loss to a non politician who endured scandals during his campaign that would have made any other candidate essentially unelectable, she was favored in every poll Mark has been on a payment plan to PF commenters until loss. Hillary's loss of twenty sixteen at ten to one odds still matter. Yeah. And that was after PF t offered him searching for Bobby Fischer style leniency offer that Mark spit at I took his fucking Queen. And he offered me a draw. And I was like fuck you. Anyway, no one thought she could lose. And she did she's just not likeable. Somehow, Donald Trump is more likable van her. Like, I don't know what the fuck. She's thinking right now, most bookmakers have her as the eleventh most likely person to be the democratic nominee for president in two thousand twenty and that's after astrophysist s'est, Neil degrasse, Tyson media mogul, Oprah Winfrey. And Bernie Sanders the guy most likely to pretty centers the guy most likely to be the second elected ghost after Dennis Hof. She's like thirty one thirty two one to win the presidency. Like, you had your chance Hillary step away. Thank you for your service. Think about it this way, this will give you and Bill some time to finally work on your marriage. She's right ahead of these nuts, and hard fact. Oh my God. Seriously, do not fuck and run Hillary get lost to the taking the internet. Lori eskimo Bagwell says with all the fraudulent vote and going on I see civil war coming and Antonello Khurana says me too. If the if the civil war happens, guess who has all the guns. Yeah. Yeah. Paul Shelvin says she's like a bad case of the clap just keeps on coming back. And Stephanie Reverend Stensgaard says I commented the same but herpes, so we know what they've got stuff. And it was like I thought the same thing different experience with mice ST. Our skirl got the clap multiple times. This thing is bad case of the clouds. We've said it before it's an honorable as TD that with one pill. It's actually a guy girl that is gonna end up getting married combo. Yeah. Let's talk about Nazis well up. All right. Not to school kids on Monday. A photo merged of a group of about fifty high school boys from the I don't care if pronouncing this right bare booze school district in Wisconsin throwing up the zig hail the Nazi salute before prom last spring. Aches. Yeah. So not not a good. Look fifty kids all white except for one doing zika all not a good. Look just getting hype for prom where there's probably gonna be a couple of Jews better get prepped. Yeah. I guess so the picture came out on Twitter from an account called welcome to bear, boo. And had the tagline. We even got the black kid to throw it up, which I don't in the picture. It doesn't look like the one black in the shot was actually throw. Welcome to Baraboo, if you're white. You know what? I mean. Right. Yeah. The post has since been deleted and the account went private as well. So at least they are aware they've made a mistake. One of the kids in the front row. The picture is also making the okay sign with his hands. Which a lot of people are saying is white power thing. I guess it definitely is white power thing. So these eleventh grade kids appear to just be pretty much very racist as a group, so but he's doing the thing that you do in pictures that if someone looks at then you get the punch him in the arm, right? But that's kind of. Also. It's not like, it's not like below your waistline. Like, oh, got you look at it. Just like anywhere. I guess like a yeah. I got you to look at it. And now, I want you to be a white nationalist like. Punch on the arm. It's the it's the Sinai giving I'm like my mouth full. And someone's like is that good? And I'm like great. Okay. That sucks way too much. Thanks, wes. Yeah. So I guess we can't make the okay side anymore. I'll have to note that a lot of people. I text probably super racist. The superstar the white nationalist emoji. Intendant of Baraboo school district. Lori Miller said the photos of students posted to hashtag Baraboo, proud is not reflective of the educational values and beliefs of the school district of Baraboo, the district will pursue any and all available and appropriate actions, including legal to address the issue. Yeah. But it is reflective of the parents of the kids of Baraboo. Oh, hell, yeah. The ones that have lived outside of Wisconsin. Like, if you were to guess, what's the least densely Jewish populated state in the country, Wisconsin being your top three. What the fuck of these kids doing? They probably never met a Jewish kid. It's more than just Jewish. It's right. It's just anybody. That's not power. This lack into. Yeah. Yeah. That's two thousand eighteen Nazism. You gotta right. I'm hoping your mind I need to be more progressive Nazism. Naziism identify with not a little bit more. In other Nazi news. A couple in Britain got arrested for being part of a Neo Nazi group called national action. There are some pictures of this couple online where they dressed their baby like clansman and draped him in swastika flags does right back to West Point. I mean that could the baby and the clansman thing has no chance. He's. Yeah. He's he's fifteen years away from zig hiding in Baraboo, high pre pre prom rough start to life right there. You're dressed as a clansman again with no knowledge of what it was. And then your parents jail. So I got mad that my sister dressed like a girl, and that it's still like a thing thanksgiving. That's why you're live. Cock is true. I'm a lib cook my cousins dressed me up is the pig. Like, one of the pigs in the three little pigs. Our kids Hillary twenty twenty taking to the internet talking about school kids, again, Kathy Kuklinski says interested to know the name of the pro photographer who thought taking this photo was a good idea. That's a great fucking point, Kathy. When we were in high school three of us here in the podcast had a couple of friends that got expelled for magic shrooms and then one kid who after graduate Erlich right around graduation got expelled for smoking a joint like during graduation. So we took like a late picture or senior year right around graduation, and we had t-shirts that were just spray painted expel this one person to white shirt with the an accident. I was the exclamation points. There's point and they caught it right before the picture amid is Turner shirts around. So we just had expel this because our friends got expelled just kind of slightly. Rebelling didn't let that fly and Baraboo got away with this yet come on. Yeah. That is crazy. Like, what do you think? The photographer was like, oh, no not everybody has hands up. Versus clicking immediately. Don't take pictures. Hey, hey, the black kid can you put your hand up? Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's what happened in Baraboo. Write some stories we didn't get to at the time of this recording there still some races yet to be decided from this year's he doesn't eighteen midterms. That's news to us because we were too busy power, Republican Brian. Kemp is telling Stacey Abrams to give it up and concede in Georgia, which she has yet to do in the closely contested governor's race that she has no chance of winning democratic Representative cure Ston cinema is the apparent winner in the air. Zona Senate race narrowly defeating Republican Representative Martha mcsally, according to numerous news sources this will make her the first openly, bisexual personal congress, and she will probably be great at bringing both sides together and all other races and Florida pausing for joke or laughter. Thank you, really good at reading across the aisle and all other races in Florida are still for grabs where at the applebees in the state, they are offering an appetizer to entrees, desserts and additional vote for twenty dollars. They're calling it the way. What the fuck did you expect? You know, what if everybody eats Applebee's this week? We're just gonna burn up the ballots. Let's just vote again people giving the the case signed the waiters at Applebee's. Florida those collective sigh. From a lot of basements comic. Book legend Stanley died aged ninety five Stanley is widely knows the creator of or patriarch of marvel comics Lee started his career with timely comics way back in nineteen thirty nine after DC comics went nuts in the nineteen. Fifties. A bunch of rich people hired Lee, Jack Herbie and crew to invent marvel which introduced the world of the fantastic four Spiderman the hulk iron man Thor. The x men daredevil could keep going catha dare-devils a good option to throw in there. Well, he's on Netflix. Third of blind people Li kept countless tweeds entertained with his stories and kept their sad mines in his world away from their sad world of rejection. And then decades later saw has universe turned into the biggest movie franchise of all time. So rest in peace you fucking legend. And a report coming out of Ireland will surely keep will up at night at quarter of seven AM local time off the southwest coast of Ireland a couple days ago. A British airlines pilot is claiming she saw UFO she thought it was an unannounced or secret military exercise because the unidentified flying object was with flashing lights was going so fast. It was veering so many different directions. A virgin airline pilot Baxter up saying there was a lot of objects are multiple objects moving so fast that he called the seed. Yes. So for the listeners at home, minus marks in intonation on this read that's to commercial pilots that Saul nights, traveling faster than they knew what it could be right. And wait till you hear the rest of the story. He called the speed astronaut, Michael he's he. Claimed it was like mock two which is twice the speed of sound and probably also invisible to the human eye. So officials and Ireland said this report will be taken very seriously, and they hope the UAW os are not headed to Scotland to fuck with Nessie or the Loch Ness monster act in actual extraterrestrial. Laughed and got their building destroyed by alien force. It's coming. That's right. And that's going to do for hard factor. Thanks so much for listening subscribe to our show, and I tunes like us on Instagram, Twitter, and most importantly, a great fucking day.

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No Spin News Audio Excerpt, September 9, 2020

Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

11:44 min | 11 months ago

No Spin News Audio Excerpt, September 9, 2020

"Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the no Spin News Wednesday September ninth two thousand twenty stand up for your country or you got some new gear and mugs itself. Infra. For your country to tell you about that later killing crazy horse's rocketing I did an hour with Hannity on the radio today we posted it on Bill O'Reilly dot. com it's pretty interesting. It's not really a full hour because talk radio. Commercials in it. You know we take them out so you can just hear the back and forth between Hannity and me he did read the book. He's a busy guy so I know the books good. Now I mean read all thing and that's very encouraging for me anyway. We'll get to all that a little bit later on. So you know. That I'm a simple man, right I mean, can you get more simple and the guy you're watching right now I don't think he can I have a really simple question. And I posted it to Hannity today. What does Joe Biden stand for? Jimmy. One thing because I don't know I'm I'm not being a wise guy. I'm not in business by the way to Bash Joe Biden. We don't do that here. Because I don't think it's fair. I mean there are a lot of things that go on behind the scenes I'm not privy to I. Tell You the truth about what I think is happening in his campaign but I'm not GonNa you know bash him or mock him or do any of that. All right just not. But I really like to know after following a man for decades. What exactly does he stand for what? And I don't know. Let me give you a perfect example and simple example. Okay. On. August thirteenth in Wellington Delaware. Joe Biden held a rare press conference in which he said this. This is not about Democrat, Republican or Independent. It's about saving America's lot. So, let's institute mask mandate nationwide started immediately and we will save lives. The estimates are will save over forty thousand lives in the next three months of that is done. Pretty. Simple Joe Biden wants everybody by law to be required to wear a mask well at least he did. Twenty four days ago. But here's what he said on September sixth in Phoenix. Arizona go. Here's the deal the federal government there's a constant where the federal government could issues such a mandate. I don't think constantly they could. So I wouldn't issue a mandate but I plead with I carry my mask with me everywhere I go. I'd set an example. Three weeks ago and now he's going. Here's the deal federal government can't do this. Now everybody knew the federal government was going to be able to do it when he said it. In Wilmington. But he didn't explain that. So. The term is flip flop her but I think it's much deeper than that. Because all politicians flipflop I mean trump flops all the time says one thing. Then he contradicts himself, all politicians do it. Whether it's a lack of concentration idol no. But I really believe that Joe Biden at this point in his life approaching seventy eight years old doesn't believe in anything. Nothing. That his opinion on Thursday might not be as opinion the following Sunday. I could be wrong about that. But I go down the list. And I don't see anything. Let me give you another example Barack Obama believed in income redistribution. Fervently. That was everything that was the centerpiece of his hope and Change Mantra when he ran the first time. And he instituted. He did instituted. Income Redistribution? By giving thirty million Americans free healthcare. And who paid for that the other Americans who bought healthcare they paid for the thirty million that's income redistribution Obama fervently believes that so you can't say that he did. Now one more thing about Biden and we have a really good guest Mark Penn. You've seen him before program the new poll out and as I told you, the police won't matter into the after the first debate. But this poll has a question about is America, a racist country that's very interesting to me. You are listening to a free excerpt from bill, O'Reilly dot com no spin news broadcast where you can actually see me. We'll be right back after this message. Hi. I'm Sarah Carter on every edition of the Sarah Carter podcast I say we're taking back the story and that's exactly what we have to do whether it's the Russia hoax. The relentless attacks on president trump pretending ANTIFA doesn't exist or covering up for the repressive Chinese government. The mainstream media isn't interested in the truth. It's up to us to uncover the truth and share with others. Please join me in taking back the story on the Sarah Carter podcast subscribe on Apple spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's an important story and I have a very important final thoughts for you and. It. Directly pertains to your life. So that's coming up sworn will let you know. So this day in History September ninth one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, six Mazza Dome the Communist dictator in China. died. All right and I applaud it. Maybe I'm. Wrong. Maybe, I violated my Christian beliefs and committed a sin. All right. To since Mortenson VENIAL SIN I might have done Venus in by applauding when Mao died. Why did I applaud? He was eighty two years by the way when he died September ninth nineteen seventy-six. Mazda. Is Responsible for the deaths. Of. Forty two million human beings. Forty, two, million. Hillard kill lemony Stalin didn't kill lemony. Now did now, why don't you know that because there was no reporting on it no reporters if you're reporter in Red China you were killed. Nobody reported anything. Because you'd be dead. All right that's how tight he kept. Now, if you don't believe me and I know there are skeptics out there whatever I say. Check out the Washington Post who was an article in two thousand sixteen. All right. Quote from nine, hundred, nine, Fifty, eight to sixty two. Now's great. Leap forward led to the deaths of more than forty, five, million people. Easily, making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded. Now, how did he do it? So. In one, thousand, nine, fifty now zetong communist dictator. Like Castro like Stalin. Said we're going to change our economy. Now, there's a billion people in China maybe about nine, hundred, million that. WE'RE GONNA change. Economy from agrarian farming. Where people growing their own food and sell into their neighbors whatever to. Industrial. We're going put everybody in the factory and you don't have a choice. So you're not growing carrots anymore. or the potatoes or anything else We're taking your land because you don't own anything. Private property is not allowed communism, and then we're we're sending the factory where you're gonNA work. What happens starvation? Trying to feed it. So population Goldman, didn't have any money to buy food abroad. Forty two minutes. Now zito communist dictatorship think about it. So have you order killing crazy horse you get five stand up for your country stickers. That's a fabulous deal. Water killing England killing Lincoln and killing crazy arsehole three books are you get a free? Stand up for America hat. Free, this is a great ad I put it on, but it mess up my hair and makeup on inside and want that. All right. The Yard signs I showed you, and now we have mugs. These are the best looking mugs ever seen and all this stuff's made in America. We don't make anything in China or any of that. Made America. Stand up for your country mugs I mean come. Let's get that message out. Right. Okay. I got a good final thought that I think you're going to want to hear. But I this. Qualcomm we believe in staying connected and you can see us wherever five G. is helping transform telemedicine supporting remote education empowering mobile. PC's the invention ages here learn more at. QUALCOMM DOT COM slash invention age. Time. Now, for the final thought of the day, one of the things that is worrying me is that if Joe Biden wins the presidency my freedom. And Yours. is going to be eroded significantly and let me give you two six examples real quick. So the cancel culture will be supported. By the Biden Administration. And, that means freedom of speech. And you know this in your own jobs and your own life you say something goes out of the Liberal Orthodoxy you could be fired. Secondly. Me To and all of those groups no due process you're guilty. Accusation. You're guilty accusation in college. A workplace somebody accuses you you're guilty. By just going to go up against that. Okay Private Property Biden's going to pass a wealth tax. They're going to seize what we have purchased after we pay taxes. I think it's unconstitutional but they'll try. Four firearm protection. That's going to be brutal. What. They're going to try to do. To The gun laws. All right five. Medical Choice. You can keep your doctor. No, you can't. Because what they're going to try to impose Biden's cruel impose federal governments going to dictate what? Is paid and many doctors go. I'm not gonNA participate. Though your doctor. May. Go. And finally religion. You think Joe Biden respects religion abortion on demand at any time for any reason he supports that and he's a Catholic. With all due respect I'm not a judge. I have no interest in sin or any of that as far as me defining it I don't. But I'll tell you this. I wouldn't want to be Joe Biden. If Saint Peter and Judgment Day does exist. Freedom of religion. Going to. Get. Hammered. All of those things will happen. If MR BIDEN IS ELECTRIC And that troubles me as a person. Seymour.

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#113 Fortnite Season 9 Debuts

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29:42 min | 2 years ago

#113 Fortnite Season 9 Debuts

"Four nights season nine debuts ban. More coming up on today's episode of latest intact news. A gadget tear. You're just in time. For the latest episode of the world's only three in one show on tech gadgets, and gaming news. That's right. This is Bill as and tech news. My name is tale American if you're new here click de-subscribe button right now. So that you don't miss the next episode, but hold off on any likes or comments until you get to a section of the show that you actually like, and you're probably wondering right now Taylor why why why so much fortnight news. It's popular. I like talking about it. I like playing the game Sumi. I do the same thing for league of legends. If there's something interesting, you're new to announce, but. Kind of like more second or third base for nights kind of main interest right now. So yeah, I'm going to talk about fortnight too bad. And speaking of which third debut feature story of today will be going over season nine very interesting changes tell you right off the bat ninjas, not happy with some of them. He hates this game. I saw it on his stream quote today. He actually said it saw him not lying. Also. In terms of tech news will be looking at US adults are spending big on video games. Mostly smartphones of interesting also be looking at in terms of gadgets, live scribe giving the Mark Penn? Another shot will be looking at a new light speed wireless gaming mouse from Logitech specifically the G five two whilst be looking at some news regarding the galaxy fold is it actually fixed. We got a release date. You'll find out listen up and in terms of gaming news will be looking at ghost recon break point an will be look at predator hunting grounds, all that and more coming up. But did you know that initially Instagram was called codename, but the name change to Instagram before it was launched. Make goodness. It did. I bet you don't even know where the name Instagram came from. Well, the name Instagram comes from a mashing up of instant camera and telegram, so case, you didn't know that. Now, you know. Moving right along to today. In tech history. Today is may ninth twenty nineteen honesty in history in nineteen ninety six Linus Torvalds decides to Dopp tux, the penguin as a mascot for the lynx operating system. Perhaps had he known the movie happy feet would be released a little over ten years later he would have chosen a orbiter instead. And speaking of which on this day in nineteen sixty seven the National Center for atmospheric research pioneer investigating weather patterns than other atmosphere phenomena using computers. Another technology dedicated its new building in Boulder, Colorado, the building stemmed from one hundred thousand dollar grant from the Maxine fleekerman foundation and was designed by renowned architect. I M Pei and a pretty interesting building for them. It's time in the so with that out of the way, let's get on to today's feature story. Just whack the camera or something my I if you guys noticed something in my eye on anyways, I think it might just be season nine jitters fairly a lot of people are crying overseas nine because here's what happened. I let you guys know not really much of a secret. But if you haven't logged in you should probably log into the game. Find out the volcano blew up the story tilted in retail row in them blew up the rest of the map and people went into the bunkers any came out into the future of well these nine so welcome. Apparently fortnight's tilted towers didn't stay dead for long in the new season starts today. Developer epic games revealed that the beloved Luke filled location is back as Neo tilted bringing the rest of the game into future, featuring shiny new buildings and mechanized pets for night is the biggest game in a world of free to pay multiplayer shooter has earned more than one billion dollars leading the huge investments in epic. And along the company to put that extra money into offer other efforts such as EPA game star and recent acquisition of rocket the studio Sonics, Diana something like that. It reminds me of an incredible name that for a hero. Oh, it is quite Ron IX, I got it. So in addition to having a host of new moats weapon and character skins and other cosmetic items unlikable, of course, via their new battle pass progression system season nine also introduces a collectible called fort bites players must decipher cryptic clues to find these micro chip like items scattered throughout the. Island gathering fort bite on lack even more rewards and secrets seasonal content. Updates in fort night is epic's way of making the game feel fresh and interesting for its console PC mobile players fans also look for two new season, which usually have thrown two months because the updates usually changed a map in some way season. Eight introduce not divall keen on your option of that volcano caused the futuristic world players now see nine now these changing events a loose. But I'm going narrative that fans love to obsess over. However, these frequent updates have come at a personal cost for some member of the Dev team. According to a lengthy report from polygon fortnight success led to a toxic stressful environment at epic K guys calm down. There are full patch notes here on this article. And there is a season nine cinematic trailer that I'll have a link to but I won't be playing today. So interestingly enough, I believe they removed shotgun. But they introduced a new shotgun where you can hold. Down the mouth button. It'll fire extra time the precipice something, I don't know. I'd really never figured that out. But apparently they introduce that they introduce something called a wind tunnels as well. All over the map. You can hop right into them. Shootout shootdown zoom all over have fun. Much of other interesting mechanics to so nothing really new terms of mechanics buys but more new territory that you have to figure out how to adapt in play. And if you're proficient player fortnight shouldn't take too long to figure out Minta figured it out he promptly through fit. Him and entomb today. We're going at it. Complaining about stuff today like stuff that they hated. Apparently ninja at one point told Tim, maybe you should go into creative for thirty minutes. In learn how to build and then to which Tim replied sick nineties, bro, referencing something ninjas past about him like doing signign, something whatever that means. So you know, how it is. So are you guys enjoy season nine so far? Have you played so far if you have sure to let us know down in comment section down below leave lake if you're excited in one learn more about fort night in any upcoming changes at you might find relevant of interest to let me know. And if you're listening to the podcast version of this video that you know, we could be going to YouTube dot com for its tech news gadget to get the full show on video. So if you're on ago, you don't have to watch just the YouTube you can watch this or listen in your car audio format while you're out for job. On a podcast so feel free. And with that, let's move on to some more tech news. So pantley the US adults are spending big on video games playing mostly on smartphones. Now, this article introduces a couple new interesting tidbits that I wanted to briefly pull out mention did you know that the average American video gamer is thirty three years old prefers the plan or smartphone in spending big on content. Twenty percent more than a year ago in eighty five percent more than twenty fifteen report showed today, the annual research from the entertainment software association comes as more American households. Rethink how to set limits for kids who have gaming in how to keep entertainment budgets in the streaming era. The forty three point four billion dollars spent twenty teen with mostly on content as opposed to hardware and excess of pay to play games. Call of duty blackouts three red dead redemption to an NBA two canine team took to tap for most units sold. But the list did not include free games such as fortnight games are striking important court with American. Said Stanley Pierre-Louis ES as acting president and CEO. That's what makes it the leading form of entertainment today. Nearly sixty five percent of US adults or more than hundred sixty four million people play games. The most popular genre is casual games with sixty percent of players gaming on their smartphones will about half also plan personal computers in specialized councils, specialized consoles on. Let's see how many to be we've got the switch the PlayStation in the X box. The that did I miss any don't think so parents are limiting screen time for their kids in using video game ratings to screen content in eighty seven percent of parents require permission for new game purchases. The study showed some forty six percent of all gamers are female though. They favored different kinds of games than men, particularly depending on age female gamers between eighteen and thirty four often prefer candy crush assassin's creed in tomb raider in play mostly on smartphones while their male counterparts mostly play on consoles. Particularly got a war. Okay. This exclusive to PlayStation. Thank you Madden. NFL and fortnight gen Xers who are forty to fifty four lean towards tetris pacman, call duty for the NBA two K in male baby boomers aged fifty five to sixty four like solitaire scrabble Nelson prize there while women leaned towards may Dong end monopoly and game players were no more prone than other Americans live isolated sedentary lives. According to the report American soon will have even more ways to play video games apparently because apple Inc. Watching video game subscription service in Google announcing net streaming service as well. So obviously new services will prevent challenges to establish video game devs. Just go on so nothing really new there. But some interesting dip bits indeed. So she apparently apparently fortnight in God of war. They got that mostly right? I don't play. I don't play Madden. NFL I've rarely played for me. Personally. I rarely place or it's games games. That I like the play are. Well, overwatch legal legends fortnight's God of war shadow of war vision games like that. So you can ready figure out my John of gaming in what kind of games I enjoy. Yeah. I don't think solitaire scrabble or monopoly or even going to be up. There did come down to monopoly. Well, am I family friends of ban me from playing with them? Because I usually always win. Don't don't give me games like that or a stratego or or chess 'cause I'll figure it out out of these up. I'm I don't know how fun and win. They say they say I'm cheating on that having fun playing a game fun game. It's it's strategy the thinking game so come on. Okay. I better stop talking before. I get myself in trouble. Moving on to some gadget news alive. Scribe is giving these smart pen another shot. It's back with next gen smart pen, improved apps and office Plugin. So we haven't heard much from live scribe in past couple of years. But today the company announced its back with its next gen smart pen, improved apps and an office plugging like past models, streamline edgier smart pen lets you digitize handwritten notes, but this model is leaker about the size of a traditional ballpoint pen and powered by new live scribe plus apps for mobile in desktop. There's also a Microsoft Office plugging that lets users print any document with the live scribe dot pattern, north wait made with an Jere pen will be sinked to the master document. Wenda smart pen is connected to the computer. So interestingly enough edgier can store twelve hundred pages of notes before it's connected to the live Skype plus mobile app, which can digitize handwritten notes as text PDF image or vector the new app. Also brings additional features like audio recording. The ability to tap anywhere on your nose to begin playback from that moment, plus the app lets users add peixe and search for keywords, you can preorder the to your pens and download the Android app now. But you'll have to wait until may fifteenth to get the app on IRS in windows desktop. It'll be available on MAC S later this month. Now, I guess in gadget I cover live scribe in two thousand seven when it looks something like a giant sharpie in came with two microphones to record audio as well as Henry notes in twenty fifteen they partnered with most gain, but the company has been quite a few years previously. The biggest gripe in gadget had with live scribe was at any convenience from being able to hand write notes was lost. As soon as you tried to get them into your note taking or word processor of choice. If this new sleeker version makes it easier to transfer notes, why inscribe might finally deliver on that convenience it promises. Even under no guarantees really ever catch on. I mean, we have our smartphones. So what do you need a pen for unless you like handwriting notes? Now, you can just. Tap away, tabloid keyboard right there tap away until your thumbs fall off. And then you'll have to dictate the boys in. Well. I just named the three options that we have tapping away on a keyboard voice or writing like normal. So we'll see which one wins out optimally in it might just be a tossup. I don't know which one you guys prefer let me know down into common section always interested in what you guys are thinking or or wanna talk about start a conversation on and fuel interested in looking forward to this. Well, let me know. And I'll be sure to make note get it. Okay. Next. Moving onto some more. Gadget news the Logitech g five oh to a light. Speed wireless gaming mouse is out. And while I g n did a review on it. By the way, if you want the links to the articles for the show that we cover today. Head on over to tech news gadget dot net for slash one one three thirteen or if you're listening via your smartphone on podcast app. You're choosing over you. Get more details tapping swiping the article links are right there in palm of your hand. You can just have on when you want, and boom it'll pop up for you. But for show purposes, we won't be going over the entire review today. Look at some parts of it. And then if you want to read the full review, we'll have link for you to do so Logitech g five oh, two companies most popular wired mouse in for years people have said the only feature that could make it better would be if it was wireless while Logitech has heard this request Loudon. Clear today, it's answering prayer the world over by releasing a wireless version of the g five oh to this. New wireless version has been rebuilt from the ground up with the latest light speed wireless. Tech play compatibility and a hero sixteen k sensor while sacrificing nothing in look and feel from the original coming to market at one hundred forty nine dollars US, it's crazy expensive. But has every feature it's predecessor had while offering Logitech latest wireless tech for many gamers, this is the mouth of their dreams. Let's take a closer look design and features. It looks like against features that goes along with it. Now if you're used to the original g five two or g five oh, two hero. Then you have a good idea of what to expect here. Look and feel of the mouse hasn't evolved much since it was first released in twenty fourteen in for good reason in the briefing they had with Logitech it shared that across their catalog of gaming, mice G five. Oh, two is easily. Most popular definitely sentiment of if it's not broke don't fix it. So it is. Here's version is big on internal upgrades. Well, even external design on changed. I'm getting more into review, and I'm looking at it going stupid razor Chroma death. Adder mouse needs an upgrade looks juicy Logitech. I dunno. I'm having a real toss up right now guys, please convince me do a goal razor for my peripheral. Or do I go Logitech? I don't know. I don't know. So also, by the way, if you're listening via podcast, did you know that we have video images photos looking at photos of it on YouTube right now. Yeah. It's pretty juicy looking at the front side both sides of the buttons underside of it. Now, the G five two is beautifully anger amounts that bleak blends sleek curves with touches of gloss against shell it leads. The mouse a futuristic look that would feel right at home in a world of cyberpunk twenty seventy seven it's organics feel similar to your beloved Logitech AmEx master to s yet the slightly narrow body allows it to work well for both palm, and claw grip gamers because apparently that's the thing. Having never used the original five oh to the author of this article in review was struck by just how comfortable and natural. It felt in her hand a good mouse should feel like an extension of yourself as it translates your movements into the game. And this mouse is a perfect example of that. So fingertip gamers might find it a little bit too heavy though and hundred and fourteen grams it does manage to come in seven grams whiter than g five oh, two hero. But it still one of the heaviest inland. Texas g line the light speed Jeanine three is close, but still four grams lighter that said modest extra weight is cleared by design and offers a knife alternative to the current trend up sub one hundred g gaming mice. You can even customize it to be fourteen grams. Heavier by fitting optional weights into a hidden compartment surrounding the sensor in intend Graham, the fuse the power play while lightweight mice. Like, the eighty g g pro wireless house appeal while the G five oh two vice speed about perfect white enough to effortlessly across hard ants off services, but heavy enough to offer excellent control mouth feature. They total of eleven programmable buttons apart from your standard left, right and middle mouse, click to more positioned to the left of your index finger the mouse, Leila, south tilts left and right for two more inputs and below that is another programmable button underneath the mouse wheel clutch. You might mistake it for three DP selector, but pressing it now displays the battery level with the three. Indicator lights along side below those are the forward in back thumb buttons as long as sniper button. Which will or the DP is on as tell which was great for lining up long distance shots in pub- g so guess the buttons worked out really well for it. Seal with in terms of software. They recently made the switch from its LGF software to g hub user experience is much better for it. Not only does it look much better. It offers one of the more user friendly experiences with peripheral hardware each of the buttons on that mouse can be customized to offer an array of functions want to record a macro easy enough. Go to actions to like the option for recording macro type in your command string. And what's really interesting, though, is that you can turn this into a sequence going from texturing launching a program executing a system command programming. All of this is easy. Thanks to an intuitive graphical interface. Finally, finally for those of us who liked the mainly assign keys in mackerels and everything else that goes along with it. You can also assign a mix of commands actions in keys on a respect of tabs keys are simplest of all since they're really just Heathrow. But commands in actions were things yet. Interesting, and well, we only downside as you can't add programs yourself in only small handful available programs currently that. There's a lot of utility here. New comapny man's actions to an entire second layer expanding G five to twenty two programmable buttons in a lighting effects. Yeah. Do not lighting effects five to light speed isn't Godley with its limitation, but you can customize a Logitech g logo on a group of indicator lights on the left side. You can select the color in after a handful of effects, though, it's pretty basic. If you have other Logitech peripherals, you can sync between them pretty easily. So with that they also have deep high-speed as such you can customize it for Jiabao feel five which are four craft we legend or night unit. You got. So that covers all of basically the highlights of this. Now, if you want the full in-depth review, we haven't on Jan and link to that is in the show notes. Enjoy. Right along to our last. Gadget news. Apparently, I've been talking a lot about the galaxy fold from Samsung for. Goodness last couple of months keeps popping up on a news while finally it's fixed. Remember how he said we don't know when it's gonna come out. It could be indefinite. But we'll keep you posted. When it does come out while Samsung's. Galaxy fold was supposed to be on store shelves right now gase he didn't know. But then it started breaking down now to talk of new release date coming soon. Speaking to the Korea Herald in an interview today Samsung mobile chief DJ co said that Samsung will decide on a galaxy folds release date in the coming days report also said that Samsung has resolved reported issues involving his main display there's no date yet for the relaunch. But a Samsung spokesperson said one would be set soon. We plan to announce the release date in coming weeks. So keep in mind guys. Samsung had been working on a device for years unveiled in February two company at hope to get the two thousand smartphone to store shelves on April twenty six however after the problems while trouble erupted reviewers said that weird things going on with it others who got there. Hands on a device earliest debt a gap between the screen the hinge on the back, which allows the smartphone folders to widen allow debris to get behind the screen damage it. So as bad newest pulled back on everything, however, AT and T did let it slip last month at about see fold would be released on June thirteenth. It's unclear how he teed terminent northern Samsung conveyed. The message initially judging by Cho's comment, it would appear that Samsung hasn't made any decisions on device just yet. But at least now we know Samsung has determine what's happening fixed. It hopefully is getting ready to move forward with a release date in. Hopefully, no, more hiccups. No more hiccups because people want to have the foldable phone. They want to be able to snap your fingers in it and go on sale so thousand tenth at a joke. So if you could laugh that would make me feel better. The. Oh, I forgot the switch story over. Gosh. I was sorry. I wacked the microphone. I'm sorry guys. I probably just pop your drums. Good thing. Mine didn't. Good to go. So aunt of gaming news ghost recon, break point is on epic game store, not on-scene as if this was any surprise to us. But I gotta cover it. Here we go go recon break point just came out with a trailer today. Interesting interesting game, currently they had a face reveal at the end of it. I'm nope. I'm not seeing any spoilers on it. But it is out on YouTube. If you wanna look ghost recon break point in the training that goes along with it joy Ubisoft has confirmed that the upcoming ghost recon break point will be epic gains store exclusive much like other. We soft releases like anno eighteen hundred and division to the new game will on on PC via the EPA game store alongside you be sauce own digital distribution service. You play so real veal here really isn't too much of a surprise. The PC players who have already seen a pass to Ubisoft releases switch from steam to the EPA game store. However, this partnership has been made in sync with the announce. -ment of ghost recon break point still no chance of snaking game on steam at all. So if you like. I want to the only reason I play because of steam guys firmly competition always helps filter out garbage going on end up chunks, eight hundred pound gorilla down into actually if you guys want something that works moving forward in something that is new in fresh updated in have features that you like in need. It's okay to rattled eight hundred pound gorilla cage from time to time at the game that really good job of that. Okay. Don't blame them for that. And as for their store. Good on them. You know, steam set there thinking is going to be the undisputed king for decades. Tecom EPA games came in and said, hey, guys any game developer took this out. Boom. There you go scared them out of the room now going on. I think they probably just torched. The cage dusted it and then eight hundred pound grill is currently running around room trying to figure out what the heck to do. And. Games just sitting in a corner with the banana going. Hey, look, we're here. But of course, if you're against having to download install and manage your games through another client, then option still exists to buy ghost recon break point directly from you play as with any you. We saw gains on steam while always had to watch the game through you play. Anyway. So it's exclusive deal should make life any more complex PC gamers earlier this year at the game. CEO Tim Sweeney said on Twitter that if steam committed to a permanent eight percent revenue share without major strings attached epic would Hasely organize a retreat from exclusives. So I love how this goes down between the CEO's. So we suppose valve knows just exactly what it has to do to stop epochs continuing strategy of chasing exclusively deals, just as we Sweeney knows exactly how unlikely it is do so you can read about ghost recon break points. New features here as well. Whichever digital marketplace. You choose you can expect ghost recon break point to release Tober four. Worth twenty nineteen you guys excited. Well, shoot I wasn't supposed to show that picture while you just have to. Thank goodness. You're listening to the podcast 'cause I just showed a picture of the go watch the trailer. Enjoy it. You'll figure out more details about it. And for our final gaming news today predator hunting grounds with announced and game. Play. Details have been revealed, but it's not the actual indium play is the trailer though is just teasing some of the stuff to come in what to expect. So hunter predator hunting grounds is in a symmetrical multiplayer action game that has been revealed. The announcement came as part of Sony's state of play for may nine twenty nineteen alongside a cinematic trailer for the game, and we have the trailer right here. But we're not going to be watching it. The trailer features a group of well armed soldiers exploring, what appears to be a South American jungle before painting up review a predator decoding itself in the trees above them. Now, obviously, if you're sitting there watching the trailer there's telltale sound now go along with it. You can't miss it. If you've seen the movies than it's right there. You don't even have to see him decoding the. No, yup. Predator right there. So according to the reveal announcement it pits a fire team against the. Stealthy killing machine a post. Unofficial PlayStation blog went further into detail on game play elements explaining one group of players control members of elite fire team who pack state of the art conventional firepower from shotguns Esam. Jeez. The sniper rifles in more. Meanwhile, one player will control the predator stealthy acrobatic killing machine bristling with exotic alien tech such as the infamous plasma caster as the fire team attempt to carry out paramilitary missions, annihilating bag is recovering important items. The predator will be closing in using advanced visual to track and ambush its prey predator hunting Browns being developed by phonic in conjunction with Twentieth Century, Fox is currently planned free twenty twenty release window on the PlayStation four. So as all we know so far the game who definitely looks interesting. Definitely genre changer definitely game changer that will say too. So you guys are excited about that. Sure. To let us know down in the count section. We'll make. To keep you guys appraised of this game. If you're not well, let me know either way. No more about fortnight fine. Okay. You win. We'll do more fortnight stories. Apparently, no new you wanna know about predator hunting grounds punching microphone again stabbed punching the microphone stupid aren't going to have to yell at it later. So with that being said, they not about wraps it up. I'll look it. Did I press the right button this time Yippee, so? That wraps up. The latest episode of believes intact news, thanks for tuning in guys, new episodes. Every weekday news can be found on every major platform, including apple podcast, Spotify, Google, podcasts YouTube Stitcher, overcast in Marin if you enjoyed this episode. We try to let us know by clicking net like button and leaving comment. Also double check that you are subscribed. So that you don't miss the next episode. I'm your host Taylor American. Remember fillets in tech gadgets? 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Anniversary special: Rachel Maddow

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Anniversary special: Rachel Maddow

"Welcome to the as recline show on the vox media podcast network. I am not now nor have I ever been as reclined, but don't worry. He's right around the corner. My name's Shawn Rama's firm. I host vox is daily news podcast today explained. And this is a big podcast week here at vox were celebrating today explains. First anniversary, some two hundred and fifty episodes later happy birthday to us. Subscribe. If you haven't and more celebration is an order because in a studio right across the hall from where I'm sitting one as recline has making this show for three whole years to Mark the occasion, we're running as RAs very first episode. It's a conversation with Rachel Matto. She tells Ezra about her early years as an activist her unconventional path to journalism and how she prepares for her show night after night. I'm going to be listening extra-carefully that last part before any of that. Of course as row and Rachel started. With their shared love of docs, experience of having a dog is primarily been that a lot of people have a lot of advice, and nobody knows where any of it comes from. There's the you've got to be the alpha and the house school of thought then there's devas ridiculous dogs. Do not think you're a dog. They're dumb, but they're not that dumb. And and just like my my dogs have a lot of stranger danger there little terriers. They're very very sweet to us, and they want the rest of the world to be killed in to die and trying to train them out of that has been a fun project in which everybody wants us to do the opposite thing like bring the dogs down to meet people, which freaks them out to high have. And then it's like no have people come in. And then they think somebody's invading the home, and there's just does not appear to be very valid work as a team they are hunting killing stranger team. Yes. But the opposite of all those adjectives that they are a running cowering fear barking. Oh, so they want death. But they don't want to kill. They want the strangers to die because they've set up an alarm somebody else. I would say yearly. We would do the me and my wife who do the actual execution of strangers. They will let us know somebody's coming, and we would arm the weaponry and Kresa fire the same age. They are they're litter mates really are rescues. There were found together. Look the same appear to be the same age. So we think they are are they both boys are going with girls. Yeah. See Susan really thinks that we're better with boy docks, which I I don't I I don't know we have had dogs, but she's really convinced that we shouldn't have a girl dog. We only have dogs is very important. And it's such an article faith with her about who we are as people. Is as pet owners with our pet. We talk about everything we never talk about that. We just treat that as that's just received gospel. Did you have dogs growing up over this an adult? Well, my mom grew up in Newfoundland on a dirt farm really in the middle of nowhere with absolute no, many subsistence farming, and so they had a lot of animals around but animals were always around to either be eaten or to work. And so the idea that you would bring a home. What are you a savage dogs? Go on hunts dogs corral sheepdogs live in the bar and their animals. So my mom has a real old school farmers approach to animals that is not at all pet related. My brother, and I all the brother, and he and I both wanted a dog badly enough as little kids that we have like fourteen hours with the golden retriever. But. It was like we got the golden retriever my brother and super excited for half an hour, but we were like three and seven, and and then we lost interest. And then it became my mom's responsibility retriever eight or plants, and then it was straight. How these learned today? I didn't know researching to talk to you that you're from California from Castroville am I did not know that an interesting thing about me written down anyway. Because I always think of you as a message uses person. Oh, right. Yeah. That's where you live now. And that is where I go home on the weekends. Right. And so it seems like a part of your personality. And I'm not sure why it was one of the things that when I found that. I was surprised to think why am I surprised by that at all also from California people can be from California. But it seemed interesting to me. Well, it's funny too. Because you tell people what part of California are you from southern California, Orange County. Now, what is called the O C? But was not called the oh, see when I was growing up there that was something the show invented nobody called nine. These are. That's the two thousand six when it's starts going to call the early to. Thousands. I would not do ever use it. You're saying I'm from the C like without being ironic. No because sent from Irvine, right? Orange County's big. Yeah. So the OC is not about quote, unquote. The it's about Newport Beach. It's about a very specific place in Orange County, very rich, very rich. But not far from there. You have Santa Ana which is completely demographically different, right? Heavily Hispanic heavily immigrant much poor not far from there. You have Laguna beach, which is also rich, but a very different kind of rich sort of a hippie beach town where you can go get tacos, and they'll always be filled with Tempe. I mean, there's a lot of different parts to the O. And when you grow when you're growing, God just said, it, you you trap me. When you're growing up in it doesn't those things. Don't feel connected. These are just cities and they're near each other. But the fact that you're part of the same county is not a salient fast. So you weren't you didn't grow up thinking, I'm an Orange County person. I did not know it would have never occurred to me that is an identity. Anyone have because it isn't an identity that would mean a lot see as a person grew up in northern California. And for a while was very interested in invested in California politics. I thought of Orange County as a very specific thing where like the people would glow a different color. He was like the heart of all that is Republican. Yes, in California, politics, and California republicanism has been a really weird thing over the course of our lifetime. You know, it's it's an unusual partisan thing in a blue state, but to have a really robust heart of it in a place that is big and has a of money and his diverse and all those things part of how ended up in Massachusetts relates to Orange County. You're welcome. My dad's best friend from the air force is a lawyer who lives and works in Orange County and his Republican, and he's a lovely guy. And when I finished, well, I didn't finish my dissertation. I finished the time living in I was supposed to be writing my dissertation, and I was out of money and out of a visa, and it was time to move back to the United States and finished my dissertation. I wanted to live someplace that would be really unhappy. It was like creating a little shoot for myself. I wanted to be super unhappy. So I would be undistracted. So the only way to dig myself out of my misery would be to finish that freaking dissertation. So I could leave this terrible place that I planted myself and move on in my life. Otherwise, I knew it would take me forever. And I'd never get it done. So I was like Warren where can I live for free because I have no money, and I don't wanna get another job because I want to finish my dissertation. And my two options were move in with my dad's best friend from the airforce who's a lawyer who offered me literally space in a broom. Closet at the office of his law firm. And I was like well that would be very unhappy making that works or I could live with friends who I've known from high school who had moved to western Massachusetts to live in rural New England to like run a BNB. And I was like well that sounds absolutely terrible. I don't like New England. I don't like the country. Winter is starting they're raising dogs. I don't like dogs that sounds pretty miserable too. And I ended up picking the ladder. But then I decided I like New England and the country forever. So visit productivity tactic you because you're a high performing to Rhode scholar. Did you traditionally put yourself in torturous positions? That would force you to finish big projects and get things done. Was that was out your getting things done strategy. It still it is in ways large and small that was a big life decision coming back from Vard's and how to do the dissertation. But it's also like I don't let myself p until I've Eddie. Added the. Navy? It's gonna take three hours to the b block. I'm just gonna suffer through. I do. I still do that. I don't even really consciously. Do. It's just the way that I'm wired. I am motivated by fear of failure. And I know that and so I constantly create situations large and small in which failures a real possibility in order to get stuff done. What was it this relation on oboe? Oh boy. Yeah. Need an insomnia cure? I can. It was called HIV aids and healthcare reform in British and American prisons. I don't know. That sounds interesting. Thank you. This goes back. Right. You were an HIV aids. Activists you'd said you were involved in California politics is that kind of California politics. You are involved in is what is the first rally? You went to one of the first political things that I remember which was not something that I was involved in. But I mean, I wasn't an activist in the cause. But I was there that day was when Nelson Mandela was released from prison. It's sort of lost a history, we actually found some of the footage of this for the show that long ago, he came and did a tour of few places in the United States, and one of the places that he came to believe the Oakland Coliseum and in the bay area. That's where in my mind. I remember it. And I remembered going knowing that this was a historic moment and thinking like, oh, this is the areas full of people who are very engaged in this politics. I remember seeing that and witnessing that and growing up in the beer you can't help but have some consciousness of particularly lefty and radical political movement. Right. But for me, it was my first pro activism was as a student. High school student. We had an active chapter of the Klux Klan in my town. Really? Yeah. Which was weird thing they used to March in the rodeo Lori. Roy years this. I graduated from high school in nineteen ninety. So it have been the eighty the town that I grew up in. It's interesting. It's an unincorporated area in Alameda County, it's called Castro valley, and there was a lot of racial animosity. We're right next to a town called Sam Leandro, which kind of had race riots and stuff into the pretty recently in the clan thing was happening. And then we had the group called white area and resistance. I don't know if you knew any of the skinhead politics from the eighties. They came down and started recruiting on my high school campus. No kidding. So they were like in the quad or something with flyers and literally goods or whatever skinhead cookies turns out there. Only sugar cookie. No sprinkles in there were like, white power, skinhead, concerts and stuff. Right. And so me and my friends would try to to annoy them like anti-racist head flyers around town and stuff. We went to one point went to Oakland to a meeting of the anti-racists skins, the sharp skins and asked them to go to the one of the white power concerts where the skinheads from our town. We're going to please beat up the racist skinheads because we were high school kids, and we were afraid of them, please. Would you guys beat them up? And there was a fissure in the skinhead movement. Is you have the kind of like straight edge, non racist? Skinheads who feel that the the Neo Nazi skinheads are giving them a terrible name. Yes. My sort of like vague loss from my recollection of this part of southern California politics. It's a bunch of straight. There's there's a big racist skinhead movement. And then there's a bunch of people who think actually there's a lot of things about the skinhead movement that we like it doesn't have to be racist, doesn't let's be an anti-racist part of the movement whose mission will be to beat up the racists. Right. It's sort of a self. It's like a dog. Really? But so I did that kind of thing. And then I came out when I came to myself when I was sixteen I came out when I was sort of publicly when I was seventeen and even before I came out to anybody else. I started working at an aids hospice in Oakland just a place where people went to get services, and ultimately the die. And I did that as a teenager before I went to college. And then when I went to college did student activism or aids started participating like act up demonstrations and stuff in San Francisco, and then I got out of college early and moved to San Francisco mostly because I wanted to do more act up. And then I did that I went to grad school told me about getting out of Jodi graduate and leave. Or did you sort of say I'm done with this, and am I graduated and left? I just got out after three years in a bit. I do that to actually like I never walked or anything I left after three years and kind of got all my credits done, and sort of got the signed the thing that I had graduated, but did you actually leave campus? Or did you move to DC? I had wanted to go do political writing I've been blogging while at that point. And if we are at that point to be like on the one hand writing for a lot of people on the other hand. Like doing these papers for like one person the gall just keep writing for a lot of people, especially if you can be done in stop paying tuition. Exactly. Yeah. Which is. Because you have a lot of student at I didn't know. So I went to university of California and had in-state tuition, and you know, my father professor at UC. So he's mathematician ECI, and so I was lucky to to not have much student at, but if I had done the grad school route that could have changed things one reason I was excited to try moving to Washington actually, having a job was I wouldn't have to go to law school or something at possibly rack up a ton of expense. Either on me, or you know, my family would bear it just because it would make everybody feel safer somehow. It's always seemed very weird to me that people considered racking up that much debt before they've even seen. What would happen if they tried not racking up to be the safe auction? There is something about the artificial linkage of education to age that makes that true that you think, oh, it's safe to pursue as much educational attainment as I can even if it's financially reckless because this is the only time in my life. In which I'm allowed to achieve educational things. I guess it's that way by necessity because once you start working it's hard to stop out and do instead. But if that was decoupled a little bit, I think that might change some of the risk people are willing to take on you do feel like time's ticking. Better get my degrees. Also think that is completely true. The linkage of agent education for certain cohort who sort of racking up degrees in racking up kind of chievements students and community colleges. Right. And a lot of different kinds of professional degrees in night schools are way way older. And I think it's a fascinating thing about Purdue the policy conversation because so many people that conversation is so dominated by people who had this kind of age Trigon more linear -education experience that, you know, you'll read the New York Times bags Zine and you think all colleges rival league schools, right? As opposed to like most people go to community colleges. A lot of doing it part time. They do it when they're older. It has a very the way you get credits is very different. So it can work with work. And I agree with what you're saying. I think it's a fascinating thing that we have. Made that age education linkage, very elite thing. Yes. And it's actually not good even for elites. Yeah. And then they're all kinds of other educational ways of organizing sort of life cycle education. They're out there that just sort of seem to get dropped a lot of time from the conversation. I think part of the problem with that is that so much of the non elite model education, which is you know, from high school into residential college environment. Right option of graduate school thereafter. With no work experience. New ways of thinking about it has been really dominated by the idea of online education online degrees, and the online education world has so many freaking Griffin. Yes. So freaking corrupt and in many ways evil when you think about the ways they've taken over the post nine eleven GI, Bill the way, they just absolute hijacked. The so much on education is a scam. That it is it has made real reform in real coherent volition of higher education feel like a minefield. The other thing that I think is really poisonous in the online education conversation, right? The hype about it is it is a lot of people who are very self directed learners who have learning things on computer screens in particular projecting what they need to succeed onto other people. And so you look at these online education courses, and the dropout rates are just incredible. This idea that all these people are going to go and watch these long courses, and we'll do without any support it without sections without any kind of social community. That helps them stay engaged. It's just a very specific kind of person who benefits from that? Yes. And I'm always amazed by people's learning spells are so different. But certain learning styles cluster in Washington DC and Silicon Valley, and you know, New York certain places where this conversation is funded from decided in policy-making or created as technological platform. And I think there's just a really dangerous level of projection in it. Well, it yeah. What people need is more options. And to the extent that the options evolve are funded and are described by in terms of people writing about these things people who all have similar and in each preferences is it's frustrating. You know, it's interesting though, like when I made my decision about getting out of college early and indeed going to grad school. It was one hundred percent money driven for me because I had a ton of student at I had a family situation, which was a little precarious because it didn't go well when I came out, and so I had like I didn't I didn't exactly know what was going to happen. In terms of like, how independent I was going to be for the rest of my life. Even you know as a nineteen year old has a seventeen year old. And so. I made these decisions about trying to take care of myself as much as possible. So I majored in what I majored in because I accident Alie, what did you major public policy and the re literally the reason that is that was my major is. Because when I realized I might have to be totally on my own one hundred percent self supporting and having not plan for that the courses that I had taken aimlessly in college, thus far and figured out which major those made up the largest proportion of CNN too that drew the sort of bullseye around the arrow. Exactly what I did look at what I have been doing that must be who. I am actually not. I think the worst way to pick a major I've ever heard. It's kind of a revealed. Preference thing. Right. Like, okay. What am I really interested in Ocala major major that? Yeah. I definitely was one of those kids who got to college and had no idea how to do college. One of the first courses that I signed up for it had a reserve reading reading list, and then it reserve reading list and the reserve reading this link things that you can look at for twenty minutes, and then you have to give back. There's only one of those copies one copy of that book in the library. And so the whole class to use them of string. You can only check it out on reserve. So check it out. And if you've got a lot of quarters, and you don't mind flirting with copy. Photocopied the whole thing which is what most people did. Or just look at it. Take your notes, and then give it back, and you're only allowed to have it for a few minutes. I checked out the entire reserve list and took all the books home having no idea that this was a system that didn't work this way. I figured I'd got got all those books on amazed. They were all available. They came back to the I got all these like started getting notices in my mailbox these like fluorescent colors. I got a call from the library of this is a crazy thing. And I brought all the books back, and it was like a a multi hundred dollar fine. All my God. Having had the books for two days or three days at this point. And these rare books are just books. So it was like, you know, something didn't have a lot of copying or something. But I had screwed the entire class. And I had humiliated I self and I hit incurred hundreds of dollars in fines. No ideal any of this worked, and I'm glad that I didn't go in and say like clearly, I'm going to be an Asian language. I'm glad that I was stupid enough a flunked out of and fail. That was humiliated by a lot of initial things settled things that I wanted to do that was more suited for and then ended up that finding my major that way it ended up sort of working out. So you leave college of two three or you graduate and and moved to the bay area. I moved to San Francisco, and you were Stanford. Yes. Not that far up. Right. And I was a little bit connected to the aids activist movement in San Francisco from being in a commutable distance, and how long between then and going to Oxford and moved to San Francisco must've been in nineteen ninety three I've moved to Oxford in nineteen ninety five ninety six I think so couple years and were you primarily doing him? I worked for Espresso Bongo. I prefer to I prefer to actually be what I think it might be. Actually, I miss forgive me. I mispronounced it was X-press. Oh bongo. Well, yeah. Because it was fast. Also junk alley it was actually a coffee place that was oriented toward west coast financial markets people in the markets open at nine AM, east coast open at six AM on the west coast. And so we opened at five so I'd have to be there for thirty. Who was my first job Stanford. That was awesome. Did it have a I'm sorry does do you have to wear any jungle themed, no safari house or anything, and okay was kinda Polynesian which too much says like kinda Tiki grass Gertie solid culturally appropriation based coffee strategy, cultural miserable. It was a confused thing. I worked there, and then I was I was in act up. And then eventually I got a job at a place called the aids legal referral panel. Which was which was a useful place. It was basically people who are HIV positive who needed legal help of any kind particularly people would need help with wills and power of attorney and that kind of stuff, and they could come to our p and get either directly will services from the staff attorneys, their they'd if they had more complicated thing. There was a poll panel of returnees who do that work for free. And I worked on the in the policy they had one policy. Shop one person who worked there who worked on basically laws that needed to be changed in. Nations that needed to be changed silicate this kind of stuff for people living and dying with aids. And I worked I was I was the secondary person in that shop that was really useful for me being street activist in all my personal time. And then have my work time the kind of lobbyist in a way. I mean, we were trying to get relations changed in definitely for a nonprofit causing with an activist mindset. But also in a crisis mindset, a lot of the people who worked there were themselves HIV positive. This is before protease inhibitors all the people who are working with everyday. Everybody was not just HIV positive a lot of people really in extremis. And so from that environment going to the state capital and talking about stuff that needs to be changed. That was the only expense ever had where I worked directly on legislation worked with members of the legislature to get stuff written and changed and worked on testified at hearings and stuff. So how then do you go from from there to be coming Rhodes scholar? That was weird. I thought college had to nominee or something. And weirdly, Stanford nominated me, and I didn't and you're already gone graduated. I had left he made a big impression with those library. Maybe they wanted some library books from. For. I know who can get who can get into those stacks that stuff is protected. Those things in our sock. Burger can say never mind that is a deep cut. Here all week Sandy Berger, I'm gonna do this for the for the audience real quick. People Google Google wanna hear the reclined version of Sandy Berger socks Sandy Berger national security adviser in the Clinton administration. I believe it was. Musician Sandy Berger goes into classified archives and smuggles a bunch of documents out in his socks and gets caught and gets caught. I would say it is it is fair to characterize as embarrassing for him in the long run. And actually, frankly less of a scandal in DC than I would have thought at the time. It seemed like a big deal to me. I felt like that was one of those and Sandy Berger has passed away at felt like when that happened. It was one of those examples of political capital matters had that happened to Mark Penn had that happen to Lanny Davis had that happen to end at that moment. Mark penn. Also had a lot of political capital. Have got might have changed since. But but Mark Penn in that age read lead Hillary Clinton's campaign. Oh, God, you he was big back then so I one of the a piece I wrote way back in the day, which when I go back I really like, but it's meaner than I right now. But I wrote a review Mark Penn is a pollster and this was a big advisable. Into later led Hillary Clinton's campaign is chief strategist. But here called micro trends, and it was, but he was kind of famous for his demographic sub sizing like working exurban moms, but micro trends was just I mean terrible fair part of that book was had a chapter about how lefties like one of the big Mike trans- coming. And so at the beginning, it was talking about grassroots activism, and it talked about some stuff that made you think he was talking about political lefties, but then he was just talking about left-handed people. And then there's just like more lefties in the world. It's more Napoleon's and Steve Jobs, and he just did the same where he said there have been famous smart people before who were left handed, so more left-handed, people means more famous smart people in the future. Remember, I wrote this. Hundred we've painted blue. They seem happy let's paint other children just for pollster to make that level of correlation causation error. I wrote it was like a fireman throwing a toaster into the blazers like total lack affiliated with the relevant techniques. I just Mark Penn is weird of weird moment in all of our lives. But I might be very smart guy. Right. This is what I know about him is micro trends and kind of broad politics. Seller. Right. I mean, PR assistance to the Tanic manifest. Like, if you've killed more than a thousand people, but fewer than five thousand people, you're not going to the Hague. You're going to Burson Marsteller was always amazing to me. I think it's spoke to some of the political what the Democratic Party was like at that moment was versed. Marsteller had a division of itself where it would work on sort of anti-labour organizing to help businesses do crisis communications when someone's trying to unionize shop, and I was found really fascinating as an example of Labour's lack of political power at that moment that someone who that was part of their business could have that level of influence in democratic politics. Just lip service to union rights lips and willingness to accept union support labor support and everything that comes with that for democratic politicians, but no actual dedication, or even understanding of the importance of the 'cause it's the thinness of the Democratic Party at least the Democratic Party elite on that subject. It's just. But I think so back going up going to take away you're going to steal library books with your socks. Okay. You're in you're in the bay area. How do you get nominated by Stanford for they picked me? And so it was news to me. But you weren't thinking of going to law school or something like that at that point. No, not at all. I I mean, I'm not a planner. I'm not a person who thinks ahead now just want to go into that whole joker speech. Have you not seen the dark Knight? The last movie I saw a movie theater was touching tiger hidden dragon. Maybe I'm just gonna have us in post production here like enter in part of the the joker speech. I wouldn't even know what to do if I caught the like you can find this on YouTube. It is an amazing speech about not being a planner. Okay. I didn't those charges your man you've plant really work like a guy with a plan. You know, what I am doc chasing cars, home know, what to do with caught it? You know, I just do things. The mom has plan but copped have plans Gordon's got plans. Their scheme. Schemers trying to control their little world. I'm not a schemer. I try to show the schemers how that. Their attempts to control things really are. And it's the evil guy. It is it is heath ledger. The greatest acting performance anyone is ever done. I will note that I've always felt that if you look at that movie correctly that speech is complete lies because the joker is clearly and amazing planner. But as a statement of not being a planner I think it really captures that youth making the statement to to face to another back to another backout. Aren't you a comic book person? I am a comic book person. But not a superhero interesting. So you're you're more weight. I've read a fantastic introduction from you to cat-woman graphic novel. Yeah. That was pretty inches of really amazing. Well, they made this incredible decision that they were gonna make that character into this incredibly politically. Yes. Yeah. So that was that was also Greg Rocca like anything like rookie touches, he if he writes, grocery lists Rita. He's a mazing. No. I'm kind of like a I'm like, spies and historical and impressionistic. I'm gonna completely such us for minute. What are your three favorite graphic novels comic books like of all time or that? I'm reading right now. Let's do three of all time and in one year reading now. Okay. Queen and country. Okay. Have you ever training? I have not heard of it. Other people recommended about Queen and country is that it is a book based on TV show, which never happens that's backwards. But the TV show it's called the sand bags and sandbags was a BBC TV show about kind of a m I six unit of operational super spies, but the whole thing basically took place in they had one set built for the show. And it was just a roomful of filing cabinets. They shot everything in that one room. People were constantly slamming the door in order to make a point because there was nothing else to work with. And then the other shot would be them like on a hill in Yorkshire like that was supposed to be Russia. And then the next one it was supposed to be Finland. And then the next it's supposed to be like somewhere Antarctica. You gotta choose that hill, really carefully. It was it was such a great TV show shot on such a shoe string. And it ended in the middle of its first season. Okay. And it's kind of I Claudia I wish they'd done. Veronica Mars turned into graphic novels and not done this sort of kick starter movie for not that the movie was bad. But it there's really joy Veronica Mars graphic novel. Well, and there's any the the idea that you would take something unfinished and say I wish that was finished. I'm gonna finish it in a different media is a great thing Queen and country ended up becoming a full arc multi volume comic book and graphic novel set based on that had had a spinoff called white out which was really good as well highly recommended also sandbags if you can find it on. Is totally worth watching. And it ends right in the middle. You can invent your own ending Serbia's like that. I really like saga is the one that I'm reading right now. So I have one of my writers at box Alex Santos has been singing the praises of saga. He does a lot of comic book coverage for us and his incredible taste on this. He's really been pushing saga. And I really wanna read it usually for me. This is going to make a lot of people hate me. But anything in space anything with space. I had. No, you're either space minded for your fiction. I'm not space minded, I am actually generally not space minded not because I don't like things in space. But I don't like the particular. Obsessions. People who write about things in space have. Yeah. I am actually not that interested in the technicalities of how you get places fast. Yeah. I kind of want you to assert it. And then we invented the thing Jag. Our there. And which is a fundamental Star Wars. Star Trek divide space is much more of a character in Star Trek Star Wars people who like star checking that kind of thing tend to be interested in space epochs that are much more technical about the question of space, and I was feel like in a stylized way. The Star Wars divide is you're kind of using the distances of space to create semi realistic other worlds that exist by different rules. I think you're right that in start track and again, not my field. But in Star Trek, the idea of space as a unitary thing that must be contended with offically as the backdrop to everything that you're doing, and yeah, there's little worlds in where you can have minor plots, but the minor plots are subsumed under the overwrite Reiter idea of space in its melancholy prospects. Right. Yeah. I think that's true. So that said saga sows in space, but really worth it. There's another graphic novel that I sent to a bunch of people as a present. Because I was like everybody's going to think about this the way that I do it's gonna change. Everybody's mind. None of the people who I send. It too had any reaction. I'm gonna try to triple down. That's disappointing thing to actually stopped trying to have if I like a band or something actively try to not have anybody with me. Just can't take the weight of their expectations them not liking it too. Crushing me back. And it makes you it makes you think about it and the way you didn't have to. Yeah. I brought this on myself. This band was working for me until I had your blank stare. Yes. But it's a nonfiction biography of Richard Feynman, the physicist f that actually I am super. It's called Feinman and it's graphic graphic novel. And it is so freaking good. And I've probably bought twenty five copies of it. It's always seems like the appropriate gift. To my friends like kids who are getting interested in science, and I've given it to friends who were going into aches. This is interesting alcoholism thing, I've given it to friends who are interested in nuclear weapons because there's this whole Manhattan project. Nobody has ever responded all you have is an interest in Richard Feynman every life experience of one or Fred goes through five. Exactly, I'm just gonna use his paternity. Have you read wicked in the divine? No, oh, that's going on right now sort of in the same kind of style saga. But it's part of that same movement and thinking about a lot lately because a lot of the characters are based on or one of the key characters is visually based on David Bowie, but it's really incredible series. That's a lot of people are like are like the here. What's going on with Rachel Maddow and have now set up for ten minutes of graphic novel? But I think they should be looking into the wicked in the divine. Okay. I feel like I have to make a note. But perhaps just listen to this later and be reminded. All right. So grad school grad school. This was about. Yeah. Not a planner no plans on going to grad school. I got on this through Batman. Activism for me was very urgent at the time. Right. So this is the early nineties, and if you're an aids activist and you've grown up as a gay kid in the San Francisco Bay area that means. Contending with a a lot of people who are second people who've dying and people your own age who were dying like, it's a very urgent time. So the idea of leaving the country to work on my graduate education is not a not an appealing prospect. But at the same time finding out that I've been nominated for the scholarship my school, they'll keyword. There was scholarship. You have a chance if you follow this path that has been started for you by somebody else. I'd never asked for it. It just got started. Then you can get your degree for free. I was like that is totally what motivated me to do it. And it was a very hard decision to apply. But because my college put me up for it. I did it and I ended up winning and going I was very conflicted about it at the time because I really didn't have grad school desire. And then once I was there again decided to try to finish it fast. I watched smack documentaries recently. There was an amazing came out two years ago. I'm just blanking on its name. Right now the plague. Yeah. And I I don't think so one of my very close family members died in nineteen Ninety-four Bates. I had not really realized until I watched that documentary. How much if it just been a couple years later? Right. The outcomes were completely different. I had not realized how time boxed how rapid, you know. There was a turning point once the treatments begin to accept it. And so this is ninety six ninety seven year saying, yeah, how do you think about that question of on the one hand? I mean, a Rhodes scholarship one thing I have to maj head is people who get those often make tremendous changes at the moment. You do this. The president is a Rhodes scholar. Right. Yeah. And on the other hand, there's this very immediate kind of direct action that I'm part world. You're part of very motionless. It was. Yeah. It was very and that that what you're talking about. I'm sorry about your loss. Thank you, the international aids conference was in Vancouver in nineteen Ninety-six. And I came back. I was living in England during my grad degree, and I came back and was part. Of that conference in a lot of different ways, both as an activist protesting some things. But also, I was one of the people in in the world who was working on aids imprisons at that point niche field. So I was participating in that level too. And the protease inhibitors that were effectively launched on the world at that conference and started to become the protocol for treating things really did give people a lease on life. And one of the things that I went through which was unique in weird and is still troubling for me. And this is this is very Cain aids activist history. But in San Francisco at the time, they're actually two chapters of act up there had been act up San Francisco, and it split and it became act up San Francisco act up Golden Gate and act up. Golden Gate was actually the sort of more normal group than they ended up being very very focused on treatment activists on getting new therapies approved and on getting clinical trials opened up and changed in a way that would be most beneficial to the most desperate people, and they were great active. Golden Gate was really. Really good and really effective and really aggressive and big alternately because of it one way to become a big activist movement is to win things and people want to join a group that can win things. And I felt like I couldn't keep up at act up. Golden Gate actually felt like I didn't have anything to offer. I felt like it wasn't a science and math kid. It was a high performing group of people who were operating at a very high level that I came in that I couldn't totally understand. And I was impressed. I wanted to be supportive, but I felt like all I could really be was a warm body. Do you think in retrospect that was corrected? You think that was a kind of imposter syndrome that you're putting on yourself some of both. I think that had I decided the best thing to do is to become an active and its treatment activist. I could have buckled down what I needed was a mentor and contributed in that way. And I learned that through something that happened to me a couple years later. But in the end what I decided to do because I knew I wanted to work on prisons is that I ended up going to act up San Francisco, and the reason there had been a split one of the reasons there had been split is that there was schismatic group among. Aids activists, and among people who are HIV positive that didn't basically believe that was real that didn't believe that HIV caused it that didn't believe that anti retroviral medications could actually treat something that was a much more inchoate syndrome that wasn't caused by virus? And so why would you take these anti-virals? And actually the thing that was killing people was the medicine. And those treatment denial lists those HIV nihilists ended up in act up San Francisco, which is where I was because I wanted to work on aids and prisons, and that's where the aids imprisons group was too. And I was not a deny list, I believed in that people a few dozen. Oh, so it's not like six hundred people now. Okay. We were pretty successful. And had a lot of wins working on the prison side of things. But all the other people in the group all the other HIV positive people in the group ended up dead. And I ended up I think responsible for a lot of other people's unnecessary deaths. Because it's one thing to say as e t is killing people when people are taking tea or DR fourteen or any other early drugs that were somewhat affected, but we're not necessarily keeping people alive for a very long time. It's another thing to tell people not to take their medicine when your medicine is a cocktail of drugs that can keep you alive for years at least bridge you until the next cocktail of drugs, which might keep you alive for an. Life span. And so I- both know a lot of people who died and a lot of people who. I necessarily caused people's deaths young people's deaths, you know, people who are the most earnest effective inspiring people I've ever known in my life, and it was this crazy corner of movement. Do you think given what people knew at the time that that given what information was out there, given the sort of the the panic defeated that view at the time was more defensible or understandable than than than it feels now or do you think it was kind of the equivalent of? I don't want to them but more like denying climate change. Now, right more like you're just refusing to believe evidence because you you don't want to there's another element to it. Which is about the fact that it's coming from people who are sick, right? There wasn't a lot of HIV denial ISM at least in San Francisco at the time. There was also around the country. But there wasn't a lot of HIV denial them coming from on lookers. It was from people who themselves facing their own mortality and had come up with. A way to understand that that was more coherent to them than what was really going on. And so it's not only conspiratorial. It's also hopeful in a way like all we have to do is stop believing the lies and start taking care of ourselves in a different way. And this culture that wants us dead, which was very clear that the culture did want us dead. That was not a conspiratorial idea. The reason so many people died from aids is because merica made a decision that was okay to take that understanding and channel that into something that might be the solution rather than needing to work through American culture and American politics in order to find the way the path live. It was crazy. But I understand why people were there in a lot of people who have close to where there, and it's just a terrible thing to look back on. I was enjoying studies that basically tell you what you think about the world has already true. I think it's an important part of advancing knowledge. So here's one studies show security systems actually do deter burglars. 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And then you go to this sort of most life of the mind kind of experience, I think one combustion. What is your first day at Oxford like dark? I mean the couple things happened. I realized as soon as I got there that I wanted to go as fast as possible. The whole reason. I was there. What could justify me being? There was to get this graduate degree for free. And nobody would ever think I ever had do anything else. I punched my ticket. But do it. Now, do it fast and get back. I had applied to go to the masters program. I didn't have master grade only had a bachelor's degree and apply for the master's program. I if I had applied directly to the doctoral program, I would not have been admitted that didn't have master's degree. But I figured out a great loophole, which is that. Yeah. They won't accept into the doctoral program with only a bachelors, but they will accept you to transfer into the doctor from the master's program so day one I start my master's program. I also applied to transfer to the doctor. For like three days as a master's candidate. Is this something that that was just like some dot passed on through different roads? Or were you like literally like up late reading the rule Buckner dig, my know how? Yeah, that's me. Yes. Good for you. I didn't try didn't feel like I was part of a cohort of a group of people that had anything else going on in their lives. Like me. I didn't feel like I arrived at Oxford with my buddies the road scholar. I really felt like I was out on a tether in the world doing something, very strange. So I did that I got into the doctoral program that meant that. I didn't have to take any classes at all. And then the next order of business was to leave Oxford. Because I couldn't handle like student life. So just a curve. So you're the real enough to take classes is what you're doing working in order to apply to the PHD procam assume basically you had to get a dissertation topic approved. And so once that is approved area of research. And then you get your vantage just sort of go off and do your thing. Yeah. Basically, you you write a book. Okay. Your book has to be good. It has to meet all of these standards, and you have to meet with these visor need to hit all these benchmarks along the way. But that's not classwork. It's all research work. You know, I made friends in Oxford and I had good roommates. And I had great few different thesis advisors. And I did I did actually go to some classes because I wanted to a lot of statistics while I was there just because I enjoyed it. And because it was helpful for the work that I was doing but within a little bit more than a year. I moved to London and helped found an organization called the aids treatment project. Okay. Which brings me back to the act up experience, which makes me realize that I could have been a treatment activists because London helped start the first treatment or. Innovation that they had. There was a group called the national aids manual, which did consumer oriented research and treatment information for HIV positive people. And then we started a group mean another American guy actually started a group to essentially advocate for promising drugs to make it into the NHL formula for people to have access to clinical trials and the approval process for drugs, very different in the UK than it is in the US, but we sort of brought a US style treatment activist orientation to the NHS as consideration about what to do about treatment and started that and we were also place where we run a hotline people would call in who are HIV positive questions about their treatment. And we'd help get people into either experimental stuff trials, and and that's what I did the whole rest of the time. I was overseas. See then you decided to kind of punish yourself into Massachusetts in order to finish a dissertation. Yeah. Given the experience of how the point why finish it addition because I had a punch the ticket. I could not justify to myself having taken that time living away from having. Nothing at all value for people. Not feeling like I had done enough value hall. I mean, I came every time I'd come back to the states. I'd be involved with my friends here who were doing this incredibly vital stuff. Yeah. We're doing our own thing. But it was like, you know, it's like, my culture. My people are doing thing. I wanna help I needed to get the thing that came at the end of that process in order to justify having done it, and I did alternately I got my I did my Ohrel's and got my dissertation approved in got my degree a week before before nine eleven technically. I am a doctor. You can call me. During this period. Politically, I've heard a great line from you that I think you said once that, you know, you're a liberal now, which means year and Eisenhower Republican during this period. Do you think of yourself as liberal as radical de belief in the political system? Do you not I'm curious about your your politics in this era, in that era, electoral politics from me was of about the same size and the same source of interest as like the TV show family ties or sometimes so incredibly important interesting to you. I and I was aware Nick at Nite watcher. I was aware of who the president was, you know, had feelings about good guys and bad guys in politics, and I was involved in various protests picked on specific decision-makers. But I remember recently within the last couple of years, I didn't invent where was sort of income sation with Donna Shalala, and I was talking to her about Donna Lee university now, and she has, you know, former health and Human Services Secretary for for Clinton. And I just remember thinking at the time like there was a time in my life. When the only thing I knew about you was the number of deaths that me and my friends attributed to your decision not to approve needle exchange as an American policy her. In the manner of speaking, privately not is of course. Listen, you have to know this you exist in a lot of people's consciousness and once Pacific way and in time in my life. This is the only thing that I knew about you. The only thing that I thought was morally important about you. And she was totally cognizant of that. When people think about you that way, you learn it, and it and it sinks in matters. I haven't gotten back on that feeling about her. But I know a lot more about an Napa sides. So the activism are doing it wasn't part. And and given as you said the way the political system and the way the country had kind of permitted a lot of this to happen had chosen to mobilize around. Yeah. Aids. Niche of you at the time it remains as an issue reasonably specific doesn't become part of a larger critique of who has power in the system or how powers wielded they have always been fascinated about backed up. And then you mentioned it a little bit around your work with the NHS and bring that kind of activism to that kind of government driven medical care process is how incredibly sophisticated it was about where were the pressure points in the system. Technical pressure points of decision making bodies pals that set standards, and and also this really interesting intersection of movement that is very radical. But also incredibly incredibly by necessity, clear eyed fell out ways in which power is wielded that most people never think about right, not just through elections. Right. But through a meeting where usually there's only lobbyists in a couple of academics. And it's it comes from being a movement that is not ideologically or SO terribly interested in reform for reform sake. Because we think we ought to have cleaner systems of blah, blah. Yeah. Right. It's not that it's about I need to get more drugs. Into more bodies the drugs need to be better. And faster when you're working on something that has that sort of imperative, particularly if it's your personal imperative this needs to get done before my T cell count falls below X or I'm not going to be able to do anything. Right. I mean when you're motivated that way, it makes you learn the intricacies really fast. Because every time something gets held up. You have to understand why it's being held up and have to figure out a way around it. And so you end up getting very very deep very fast in your policy skills. And I do think there's been an effort one of the legacies of the aids treatment movement has been that. Other people working on other issues have tried to learn from the way the aids activists did it, but I also think the FDA in particular and some other elements of the sort of drug development pipeline in this country. Did broadly get better and learn those lessons because the activists forced them into forced into it. But it was it's definitely a transactional. Technocratic approach to muscling things through. And I like that as activism, I mean, I don't think of myself as activist anymore. But what I tried to do as an activist was basically approach each thing that I wanted to get as a math problem. There are I believe in the reasons that I that something should be different. So here's the thing that I want to happen in the world. You know, I want people who are dying of aids in prisons to be allowed to die in secure hospices rather than dying in jail infirmaries. That's what I want meat just saying that I want that and expressing the moral richness of that is not enough to get that to happen. Who is the person who can decide to make that happen? Well. Hospice's need to be good with that. Okay. Let's go to the hospices who was the person that makes the decision about whether person goes to the hospices. Well, there's a category of decision making here that is for people who do not have life sentences. They're susceptible to these kinds of decision makers, and then there's a whole different category. Which is you know, as a matter of policy, those people can't so let's change the local decision-makers now change the law and just doing it piece by piece by piece, and when it comes to changing the law, why won't this law change because the committee chairman who's responsible for this doesn't care about this as an issue? Well, what does he care about? He cares about golf. Okay. Who does he golf with? Let's find whoever he golfs with life and figure out where she goes to church and make her pastor care about this. And have pastor talk to her about this talk to her friend about it talk to her husband about it talked to the Commissioner about it. All right now, we've got a hearing. I mean that that was my life before I got into media. And that's still the way that I think about activism, so when people tell me now, oh on MSNBC or such an activist. No, thank you. I appreciate that. I may make you have activists feelings, but activism is a very specific and technocratic thing, but isn't amazing of activism. Let me ask you one thing about that. So you're starting out on a process like that. How do you gather information because the kinds of information you're talking about and particularly the time when you can't Google things as easily you may be Google little bit. I'm actually I do not remember the exact your Google became a thing. So maybe our ultimate sting information use net grouping. How do you begin to find the answer to the question when you're not in a position where everybody will take your call who is the person and what do they care about? And why do they care about it? What what is the approach you took to finding kinds of information that are not easily publicly available and arguably some people don't want you to find because they don't want to deal with the consequences. If you finding. Yeah. Ultimately, it's reporting or intelligence gathering. In a way. I mean the way that this sort of goes in two directions, you have to know people. You have to be physically in places where you can have side conversations with people where they tell you that they don't think are important, but they are in for new Angie need to, cultivate, trust among people who do not have the same aims as you. But who do not differ with you? So obviously having opponents in the world is one thing most of the kinds of actors in that I worked on we didn't have people who are trying to stop us from what we're doing. We just needed more people who didn't care to start carrying enough that they would take a little risk to we wanted. That's organizing organizing gathering information. The other thing about it though that ended up being really relevant an interesting, given my later life being in media is that on a lot of the activist issues that I worked on. It was very important that we got no press. And I think from the outside one of things people assume about activism as that you're trying to consciousness raiser around an issue and get public discussion and raise public awareness. Raise the profile of the issue, not if you're talking about the comfort of death row prisoners he'll actually want that subjected to a popular referendum because that's going to be a knee-jerk regressive response. And so sometimes what you need for people to be brave is to limit their risk. And some of the ways you limit risk. Sometimes is by keeping quiet, and that ended up as ended up being an interesting thing to know and thing to believe in given that I'm now a person who's in the business of making national news of stuff. What was fascinating about the to sort of draw out? Generally is that. I think one of the hard lessons for lot of particular liberals in the Obama era. But I think it's something people more broadly to recognize in politics that there are a lot of situations where for the president to come out and strongly take a position on an issue for him to raise its profile is going to mean, necessarily like as a condition of him saying that that every Republican votes against it. Exactly. Right. And that's going to destroy the issue. And so going back, I think to pretty early in the second term, you see Obama who's one a, you know, a reasonably talented public politician. Right. Very very good at giving speeches very good at at raising the ceilings of issues begin to back off a lot of things he wants to get done. Right. And try to let these processes happen kind of quietly immigration stuff on example, where when that was going through congress Obama, very purposefully did not make a lot of public statements on it. And the ones he did make were very muted calm. Then last year you see congress. Do a lot of interesting things. They make big change to medical doctor payments that come out with this tax Bill and everything's happening behind closed doors. It gets revealed and voted on two days later, the whole ideas that if you let people find out about it it's going to polarize it's going to become something can do that's something that people showboat onset of work on. And it's I think it's very ethically or philosophically uncomfortable places. Yeah. Right. Because the one hand it's very very anti-democratic way to do things. Right. The idea that to get things done you want people's possible to know about it and on the other hand, if you believe in getting things done which in any individual case here, you may not. But as a general question of political strategy may, you know, on something then you have asked do you want to let this become a public referenda where every interest group, and I and I think that the ethics of it really depend on the overall democratic accountability of the system in which this process happens because it's one thing if you want sort of quiet room, insulated, negotiation and policy crafting to happen. And then. Whatever is the result of that process goes into effect with nobody having a chance to say anything about it or a repeal it, right? It's another thing. If what happens is you create space for constructive making and negotiation to happen. So that you can come up with something viable, and then you elect to introduce that as your Bill that gets voted on or as your policy that can be repealed, or whatever it is in anti-democratic environments. I think this kind that type of process is almost unforgivable in literally democratic environments, maybe it's necessary especially on things that are otherwise people used to call them hot button issues, but I feel like that's giving them too much credit. It's more just like things that are instantly made stupid by exposure exposure to cable news. I think almost anything. Now. I think that oh, so there is a great book that is really influence how I think about politics, it's called beyond ideology. And it's by a political scientist named Francis Lee. And she does this amazing studying it, and she looks at non-controversial issue. So things like should we go to Mars right things at the two parties don't have positions on before they get vote. Then she looks on these knock controversial issues did the president take a position on it. Right. Did he just say as an off hand comment in his state of the union address? I think it's good when we named post offices after famous people or whatever. And when the president does the chance of a party line vote jumps tremendously even on issues. Nobody cares about and she'll tell the story of being she was in a on political science fellowship on the hill. And I think it was working with Senate Democrats at the time, and there's George W Bush if you remember this in two thousand and four I think it is begins to leak that he wants to go to Mars not him personally, many liberals, but of obvious enjoyed but one. Sentiment. Mars and Democrats have no real position on going to Mars, and certainly if Brock Obama came out and said, we're gonna finish John Kennedy's work and put a man on Mars. They'd be you know, applauding from the rafters. But they mmediately begin developing a reason not to go to Mars in this case, the deficit, we've got all these people poor here, we have this huge deficit, and you're going to spending money on going to Mars, and is the way in which it activates people sort of motivated team based reasoning. Yes. Even on things that they just don't have an opinion on before. Right. It just like literally if you don't have an opinion it becomes well. But if they do it you'll win and her big insight is that? The president is not just the president. He's party leader. Right. So is the leader of the opposition in the house of the Senate. And that the the very kind of fundamentally people end up experiencing the stuff is that if they take a position than it is counted in American politics as a win for them if it happens, and because elections zero-sum you can't let that win happen. And it's a really shitty way to run a railroad. And and what's interesting about it is that at least President Obama rejects that role does not want that role plays that role, but doesn't want it. I didn't interview with him right before he was elected and the one useful question. I think that I asked him. What was is? It was all right. It was not bad. But I think I really only asked him on useful question. And it was something along the lines of you have talked a lot about what that leaders people like George W Bush Dick Cheney are even sometimes talk about them as bad Republicans. But you never talk about conservatism or Republican. Ism being bad for the country. Do you think that the Republican party and its ideals? Conservatism are actually bad or do you just think that those two guys are bad at doing it? And his answer was basically like get off me like I'm about to win. And I think you'll notice that a lot of Republicans are gonna vote for me. And it's because I'm not making a case against I'm not making a case for democratic politics are better than Republican politics. I'm making case that I'd be better than George Bush. And if you don't like the way that they carry things out, I'll be a competent guy that was very helpful for me in understanding his approach to winning that election ended up also becoming I think helpful for me and understanding the way that he's governed and the partisan consequences the way, they discovered I mean, it is really really important for the future of the Democratic Party that in the states while Barack Obama has been president the Democratic Party has collapsed, you know, governorships state, legislatures the consequences in congress. I mean, there's no chance the Democrats can take the house until what at least twenty twenty two. I mean that matters. And that part of the reason that happened is because I think unlike Joe Biden who does see himself as a leader of the Democratic Party, President Obama has not approached it that way. And there's consequences for that. And I think that would be a big difference between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton too. So let me do you one worse right before Obama's elected? I wrote a feature for the American prospect that was predicting something fundamental about his presidency. US one question that help you understand him. I read feature that helped you completely not understand really really would have gotten him wrong. And the feature I was calling Democrats, and I was asking, you know, elected Democrats, and I was asking them what makes different than Clinton what part of the parties come out of a part of the party dec- reliant. What do you expect to happen? If you're a member of congress, and he comes in and the answer. I got was really interesting actually, what they said is that the underappreciated fact about Obama is that nobody thinks about staffing as a really important part of campaigns, not in the kind of the broad public mind. But actually, if you're running against Clinton, it's really really fucking hard because Clinton's have the entire kind of super experienced operative class of the Democratic Party locked up. So where does Obama get a staff capable of challenging Clinton and the answer? They gave me was it in this very unusual moment, which is it. He rises to prominence in two thousand and four right around that speech in two thousand and four for different reasons. Tom Daschle is defeated. Right. It is the year that he lost. I think I think oh four zero he loses and dick up resigns. Because he's running for president. And so suddenly the staff and sort of ecosystem of the leader, Senate, Democrats and leader of House Democrats go away. Right. They all of a sudden are without a job and Obama is able to pick up these super experienced staffers who give him these very very deep ties to the congressional Democratic Party rights instead of being part of the Clinton wing of the party becomes part of the congressional wing of the party. So Pete rouse. Who's Tom dash genus day to these guys who they were a really big part of the Democratic Party infrastructure, and you know, in that piece something people talk about they're really excited about all the work that the organizing for America group is beginning to think about doing for state legislatures. And so the thing the piece argues that Obama is going to be focused in a way previous presidents haven't been on party infrastructure building. Look what he's organizing look with they're doing now, look where it comes out of. And as you say the collapse of the democratic party's down ballot. Infrastructure has been stunning under him. I mean organizing for America, just poof, just poof. Yeah. And so I really think that was a good piece or more on somebody oughta go back and make the world's greatest boring. Counterfactual writes that life becomes that life that you broadly predicted becomes true. I mean, what would it what would this presidential race right now? Even look like there were thirty democratic governors in the country. I mean, it would be totally different race. I mean, I don't think people quite appreciate how screwed the democratic party's because we have this national conversation right now. And it's a continuous one about the crisis in the Republican party. And you know, it is on some level. A like party seems to be idiological cracking up. Yeah. But they do completely control every level of government presidency every single one. And then you Democrats like super smug and have nothing, but the White House, and if there's a recession they're not gonna house either, right or probably won't. Yeah. And you look like democratic power the way that one of the ways. That that expresses itself on Capitol Hill is that you've got Nancy Pelosi who is actually magic Nancy Pelosi controls the Democrats in the house of representatives with magic power. She can make them do anything. She wants. I mean, she could make them do like all rang style North Korean gymnastics, if she wanted to just like with her mind, she can make it happen. That's awesome. But if there's only fourteen of them. That's amazing. Yeah. You don't have you. Ideological fights aren't heath Shuler's in the Democratic Party anymore. But that's in part because you lost every swing seat that there is because they're all those districts got written in such a way because of Republicans day, legislatures so that Democrats have no chance of ever being in the majority again. And so enjoy your idea logical non schismatic, or, you know, working togetherness, but it's it's not helping it's really not helping people win interesting. We had some man on the street tape that we didn't use on the show the other night, we just cut it for time. But we've been asking reporters who are covering big Trump events to just walk the line of people who are waiting to get in and ask them. Are you actually Trump supporter why you know, what what do you what do you here to try to learn tonight because he does turn out these very large group, and we had this one guy in Oklahoma. Who said, you know, this all started for me when Glenn Beck came and did a rally here Cantu few years ago. And they said at the end of the rally, what are you going to do to change your country? We. We need everybody here right now. To raise your hand, if you are committed to doing something not just being here doing something to change your country to take it back from the evil. Marxist kenyon. Do and what they wanted. Everybody to do is run for an office of some level. So this guy was like so now, I'm elected county Commissioner because Glenn Beck told me too because I came to a Republican event during some election cycle that didn't matter a few years ago, and what they asked the crowd to do start running for office, you know, and it's just random on the street stuff. But like, when's the last time you heard Democrats say that I was at some sort of lefty or progressive organizing group I was at some event for a democratic candidate. And they insisted that I run for dogcatcher because I was there just doesn't happen anymore. Those bit of research, I read too long ago about how the Democratic Party and the Republican party are different. And it has a lot of kind of ways to get out this. But the big thing it says about the parties is that Democrats are more motivated by transactional policy that when you look at Democrats cover when you look at what they say when you look at whether they like compromise or not that kind of when you look at their interest group ecosystem that over and over again. The tend to want health care, or they want this particular education reform, they want this change to social security or protection of social security and Republicans are more philosophically motivated that you know, they care a lot more about politicians who stick by the principal's office. They approach it in a much more holistic way. And that's one reason the two parties have a lot of trouble working together. 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She downloaded explained ever get your podcasts. Get it on apple podcasts Stitcher Spotify wherever you are. Currently listening today. Explain by box. It is excellent. So go backwards a little bit into because now we're talking about you in media, you get into me a little bit by the back door start doing radio reads, right locally. And what is kind of the moment. You realize oh, I'm actually gonna be like immediate person. Like, I'm actually going to make this my thing. And I'm gonna talk to people for a living and try to inform them about the world in which they live. It was a very specific thing was weird and people around you know, it before you did. Oh, that's interesting. No, I don't think anybody thought coming. It's finishing dissertation living in western mass. And then once I finished my dissertation. I was ultimately ended up working for the national minority council and the ACLU national prison project. And so I'm continuing my activist stuff, and I'm working jobs on top of that just make money and pay the rent, and I have a lot of really odd jobs like I worked at a coffee bean roasting factory. And I did deliver. It was about around. And I was hired to do landscaping dig out tree stumps and stuff by this person who was a friend of a friend, and it was she opened the door at the first day is going to hire me as level for site. And that ended up being my partner. Susan we've been together for seventeen years now genuine love it for early like comets crazy but saw jobs some of which worked out great, right? But one of the jobs these friends who has living with they were fans of this local morning show, like a morning zoo commercial drive morning show. And that side kick on that show was leaving and they held open on their additions to replace the sidekick, and I did the on air dishes, and I got the job and they hired me. I started the next day. It was really funny, and but it was just another odd job. And I did that for one year, and I stopped doing that in two thousand one after having worked for exactly three hundred sixty five days. So that I could go to Oxford actually, do my five and get my degree. And I thought that would be it. I was I had a radio job one here. But then right after right after I got my degree right after I came back from offered nine eleven happened. And I found myself having a very strong desire to be back on the radio because I was the news person on this morning drive radio show, and it meant reading a copy of new stories and stuff, but then also explaining things going on locally and doing interviews and doing just explain. Dettori stuff that I liked and I thought I was good at I found myself wanting to do that after nine eleven all the local radio stations everywhere across the country. Stop playing music went to full talk. All the time blood drives before people knew that there wasn't much of a need for that. And the whole thing. And so I called the station that was physically closest to me, which is also that music station that I listen to most often which had stopped playing music. And I said, hey, it's Rachel used to be the sidekick on the Dave in the morning show from W R and X and they said, yeah. Whatever happened to you. Well, I'm back in the area, and I'm not working in radio anymore. But if you want somebody to pick up weekend shifts, just doing Collins and talk I would do it for free said great come down and do it and that turned into alternately pretty quickly turned over to me having a job doing their morning show. That's a job. I mean as minimum wage, but it was still like a job or had to be there. A lot of hours every day drive down senior doctor motto at this point, you're doing free radio weekend. Is that a weird feeling that that feels more mostly what I was attacked? And so this you're still doing Asia. So I'm still working. So I'm getting up at three something in the morning driving in the dark down to the station. Doing the morning show. I'm done by noon. And then I come home, and I'm working for aids organizations and stuff in the afternoon and really enjoying it and starting to get more and more freedom and starting to get like more and more into it. And it seeming like less of a seeming like less of a lark insertive seeming, something, I was putting more my brain into. And then there became this news that air America was going to start. This is two thousand three two thousand four they were going to start a liberal talk radio network to compete with the Rush Limbaugh of the world. And I'm doing liberal talk radio for DJ. -ing more rural unrated, western New England and. All the pitch. Yeah. And they're they've got Alfred in and Jane Garoppolo and all these very famous people, Bobby Kennedy, and such amazing looking back on that the kind of line of they had when they launched. I remember like the excitement in liberal circles about air America, people were signing up to do shows and the New York Times magazine hype. Like, this was going to change the American landscape and people very upset about the Iraq war is going to change, George W Bush's reelection prospects. And I'm and it was this huge deal and seemed much bigger than me, but I had this friend. He's an ex Pat from New York City, a bartender in New York and had decided to it was to hurly-burly, and he had stuff going on of sewn health and everything and I knew him sort of through aids activist stuff, and we both ended up in western mass and turns out one of his best friends from his bartending days. One of his best customers who was the co founder of the daily show. Liz Winstead, oh, really Liz Winstead who is one of the creators of network who is in charge of hiring talent. He says, so I I know this girl de wanna and I was like, yeah. I guess I do I want to try, and I thought my life might diverge. If I get this job, I'll try for a little while being a fulltime media person and give up the activists thing if I don't get this job. I will keep doing what I'm doing here for a long time. I'm happy with my life and ended up sort of kicking screaming and getting screaming getting that job. And I remember telling everybody in the sort of aids in prison stuff that I was doing more or less halftime fulltime at that point. Like, I got got this job in New York. It's a little weird. It's nothing related to aids. And I'm going to try to do this for six months. So I'm gonna stop out of all of our work. I gave all of my responsibilities to other people gave all of the stuff. I was working on other people. I said I'll be back in six months if this doesn't work out. I think it's probably not gonna work out. But I'm gonna go got a really make a go of it. The first show you're on their couple of people on it. I'm who Liz Winston as Winston from the daily show, and Chuck d from Republican. Yeah. My man, what was it like it was? Curry's that must be a very like all of a sudden being on the radio show with Chuck the must be a real. Well, it didn't it didn't. So what happened was it was supposed to be Chucky from public enemy. Liz Winston co creator of the daily show, and this other person and something happens with that other person where they just decided she wasn't going to work out. They had built the show around the three of them. And I was supposed to be the side kick news girl. And so I was the person who came in at the top of the hour who did cut ins used to do on my morning zoo, just telling them like what's going on in the news, and I was lobbying like, please. Can I have opportunity to chat with after? We do the news. I I I could be funny. I could do that. There were like well, just keep you to the news. But we're having these all staff meetings planning that show is going to be like, and it's starting to become apparent that one of these is not gonna fit in and we've all been discussing with the rundowns are going to be like the production is going to be like and what we want to focus on. How many interviews going to do all this stuff? We've all been in on these discussions on the day. They. Side that the third host is not gonna work. Liz, literally looks around the room and goes, well, why don't you do it? Thank god. It wasn't in the bathroom. And so I was the I was the random entry. But I was also the only one who'd ever done radio before. Well, that's fascinating. Actually, you also most experienced I ended up being like the serious technocratic one kept everything on track, which is hilarious. How different is doing radio doing cable fairy when you're doing radio you're just talking right into somebody's ear, and so you have to be a real person and on TV after be looked at. And so you have to be a thing and you need assets. What I learned when I was guest hosting the ause you needed assets, the sound, the the pictures propel elements elements elements. Sorry. Yeah. Now, I'm terrible with assets. Yeah. You need elements. I still I don't think visually at all. So I don't know. I mean, I I can think about timing in terms of stuff should pop when it shouldn't like when things should be revealed on the show. But yeah, I just think in terms of script so you sort of going on on Joe Scarborough show, actually, remember, right? No Tucker Carlson is Tucker Carlson show two thousand five it's the George W Bush reelection effort. So every cable news punch and Judy show. In the world is looking for liberals to fight with conservatives. And so I was like getting paired up with G Gordon Liddy and Mike and. And Mike and Pat Buchanan, and top Buchanan actually, really helped me he said after I got booked opposite him on somebody show. He said to the producers liked that liberal, girl, like half half come on with me more. He really helped you. He was very sweet to me, and he liked arguing with me is politics a lot of people fund objection. I've heard so many stories like that about Pat Buchanan. He's just he's he's he's not a few sieve is not when you guys who like networks and tries to super schmooze e and nicer people, he's just actually super decent and to help people up. He helped tries to help people having without trying to take any credit for it in a way that is is very very personally decent, even though his politics are not just they're getting so much worse. It's so fascinating. Because he's someone I would like to hear so much more from this year because he is really a forerunner interview him in this forum. Yeah, I'm in a somewhat wanting to. He's super smart. And he knows what he's talking about end. What he thinks is very scary. But he's he can explain it. Kind of culturally nationalist traditionalist, economically populist thing that Trump is doing was done in a more serious way. Maybe on more successful. But more serious one by him, a certainly more like academically and ideologically grounded. He can explain why he feels that way. Yeah. But really not afraid to talk about the race part of it. And obviously the thing that looms over a lot of people's fear of popu cannons, politics, these not like using racial slurs and things like that. He's he's willing to explain where he's coming from in terms of racial nationalism. And it's helpful for understanding it for because a lot of other people are much more coded about it. He's not he's not afraid of being seen as politically incorrect. Yes. Simple say that he is not. So did that for a while? And then I got hired by the Tucker Carlson show to be one of his like roving panel of guests Priscilla areas, and then they decided to get rid of the roving panel. And then by that point, I was working. Overnights. It was a little weird. I was sleeping during the day. And staying up all night that was a strange time overnights on the radio. Well after the Chuck Todd Chuck Chuck de lis. After that show died. The next thing that happened to me is that I got a solo show that was five AM to six AM, which was the one hour in the air America schedule that wasn't spoken for it. I'm like, I'll do it. And in order to do that show. I used to go in at midnight. Okay. Because I am the only radio host in the history of radio host who used to write my show. I would write out everywhere. Yeah. There's a lot of guests. No quick. Yeah. So I burn through a lot of good producers. Right. So we get to work at midnight. And then we're off the air by six AM, and you wanna go out for glass of wine. No, I want to have a human life. But I used to go to the Tucker Carlson show. He was on an eleven at that time. So they'd like get picked up at ten PM go to the Tucker Carlson show have breakfast or go to the gym as to taxi driver gym on fourteenth street that was amazing guys in full like corduroys and sandals doing bench presses. Yeah. It smelled really crazy was open twenty four hours a day. And it was only twenty five dollars a month. It was excellent. And then I ended up getting alternately in two thousand eight getting my own gig. You've been a air American and at MSNBC. And so you've kind of had a real front row seat on the rise of there being a more liberal counterpart to sort of conservative conservative L. It's how do you think about the kind of like fracturing effect for individual viewers, right? Like, some kind of full ecosystem way is obviously that there are a lot of different perspectives are presented, but do you worry about sort of? And then with the internet, obviously, the kind of go chamber. Effect among individuals of fear that people are just going to continue to hear the thing. They wanna hear people can certainly self select. Yeah, you know, what they wanna hear? But that's not. I don't think that's our fault. I just think that's where you know, whether or not there was any cable news at all people would still be in that environment because of online new sources so that exists dynamic just in people's psyche. And their comfort levels is around. The way that we make decisions about that on a day-to-day basis me, and my staff what to put on the show the way it functions is basically not that different than in a world where without dynamic wasn't around. And what I mean by that is whether or not people are doing that I need to do the same thing, which is be trustworthy, trustworthy. Be worth listening to be engaging and be fact chuckle and fair, and that's true. Whether or not you're a liberal, and you wanna listen to me because you're a liberal or whether you're conservative, and you're coming to me 'cause you hate me or whether you're an ecumenical taste in politics. And you wanna hear from all different kinds of people imperative is the same for me in terms of what I need to do. And how do you structure your information flow to make sure that that you feel you're doing that? Right. Because you're also news consumer. Yeah. Right. And it's easy to cocoon and easy to get frustrated at sources and Samatha does incredibly well. And I've you give me. The opportunity host a couple of times. I've always been amazed at your staff. Reads, a broader diversity, I don't just mean eighty logical, but at different levels of the media, right as much more focused on state and local politics and others are so how do you organize? Your information diet that is very active dynamic in my life. I think about all the time that I'm constantly managing the most satisfying thing about my job is the power to choose. What counts as news today? And so in order to do that we need to understand on a daily basis. What is the universe of news that we might consider today? What are other people talking about? What can we add useful information about what's going to be the most fun? And that dynamic is great. But that means that the wide part of the funnel has to be constantly recalibrated. So that you're considering the right universe. So basically, the the one thing that I do that. I think is a little different than what your average news. Consumer might do that. I try really really really hard to avoid all opinion. I don't read call. Well, that's interesting. Yeah. I don't I only try to read at a to'real. I don't I try not to read ED's unless they've, you know, sometimes you get bad. That's really actually introducing ten new of nation. I try not to read at to'real 's unless they themselves are news that they're going to have an impact on something or that they might conceivably alter the trajectory of news organization. Just because I don't want absorb other people's opinions, and I don't want to become part of a tide of common wisdom on something. I'd rather be my own. So will you actively? I mean, people be talking about a poker Geman or Charles Krauthammer peace and you'll actively try to not read it in a case. Like that. If everybody's talking about a Charles Krauthammer column, I will say all right. Who's read it is there anything newsworthy in it? Or is the news just the headline that Kramer has taken a position against x or four x. And then it's not like, I think it's radioactive. But I try not to use other people's opinions as source of news. And the thing that I do that. I think is a little bit unusual that we try to geographic. Weekly change up the sources of information. So obviously everybody has to read the in the near times in the Washington Post, and we'll have to read those things, but I also try to kind of a rotating basis, you know, read the Saint Louis post dispatch and read the Texas Tribune and read the guardian and read the Portland press herald, and the, you know, particularly, I know something interesting going on in that state. I try to read a lot of different news sources St. that's also fun because that's where you get the little gym blitz of stuff that people don't necessarily know about who are just participating in the national conversation, and you can introduce something not that's just like a water cooler story. But that's like an interesting thing going on somewhere else is the way you do that the you have bookmarks folder with all these different ones there. And you sort of today will you'll do the Portland paper, or they're kind of sorting mechanisms sort of state news aggregate are the things that help you. My staff uses this kind of mechanisms are assess fees that are set up for specific things. And we do a staff note every day. You'll remember from the from doing the show that is very helpful. And that basically the staff note, which is an extensive thing is kind of required reading everybody needs to know, not just the headline, but the basics of every single story that's in that note. And it's dozens of stories takes me an hour to go through that and read everything in that. And then beyond that is when you're reading to get smarter. And so for me, I've got all of my must read like, I I need to know. What's in the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, the New York Times having to CNN national review, like there's certain things that I needed in them every day, and those are necessities, and then beyond that actually don't make bookmarks for regional stuff because they're all in my head. So if I know that I'm interested in something going on with Brownback like I actually know what all of the Kansas new sources are that. I want to go to which is embarrassing. I I don't think it's so embarrassed I really hard. I really want to do as a as a journalist better job keeping up on state and local news. And the thing that I found it really hard to do is get any kind of thirty thousand foot view such an it's easier to figure out where to drill because you know. I mean, it's a crowded news environment. You can read a million things you can spend all your time forever. And like now, I have a lot of meetings in my life. Yeah. People so don't have much time. And there must be obsessive or newsletters for state lobbyists or something that are out there that are helping, but I've never found one that I really liked what I have learned at least that's far as there's no systematically to there's no way to process information from fifty states on a granular enough level that you're gonna find what interests you do it in a regular weight has by necessity. It has to be a little bit or mess, unless you are going to assign people who work for you to have regional awareness in specific, you know, your your ten people and they're responsible for five stay. That's also an incredible waste of resources because the stuff is going to step is going to bubble a little I mean to certain extent you need to trust, you know, aggregate or see like skip around some aggregate is there are some pseudo technocratic newsletter type things that I use national conferences state, legislatures actually does some things government executive government executive government. Some how some stuff in it that will lead you into interesting down, interesting paths. So you end up, you know, you end up finding this people like I've got some bloggers who I love on water policy. You know, there's some people who are the obviously the voting rights world is very well organized online in terms of trusting people who blog voting rights who I trust to let me know if there's some fascinating thing with the voting rights fight in North Dakota or wherever I feel that way about healthcare. You can't cut this issue a lot better. Then you have people who that's way organizing, and they do it. So maybe a couple more idiosyncratic or more, you know, disconnected. Okay. So one what is something you believe that that most people think is wrong. Most people wrongly believe about whether or not I believe it or most people disagree. Most people disagree with it. It's it's it's a position you hold that. You think is true. How many do you want? I am very against term limits. I completely agree with that you do. Yes. You are you because it makes the hornet lobbying and staff class of the government, right? Like transfers power from the from elected officials to elected officials. Yes, he's expertise, and the only people who know how to write legislation and get stuff passed, and how to sneak things through our people who you are never allowed to know their name. They can't be fired. And if you wanna protect them, you can't find their office version was argument is in California there eventually came a time when the most experienced budget negotiator in the room who is one of the one of the principals was Arnold schwarzen- that should not happen life. You should not be a case for Arnold Schwarzenegger, negotiate with the speaker of the house, the president of the Senate, and he's a guy who's done this most time like that. It's not a reasonable way to run amazing cover again in California once term term limits. Started happening in California, you'd end up with people not just in those meetings who didn't know what they're doing about. But you'd end up with the leader of the assembly being somebody who had never figured anything out on the way there. They chosen to be the leader of the assembly because they wanted to set that person up for a good state Senate job, which was coming being the leader was just it was like being a guest star best tournaments for one more second. The other problem is on the back end. So right now, we worry about the revolving door problem, and congress, you worry about the fact that members of congress when they leave they often become lobbyists. But at least before that happens there idea that they're going to get reelected their ideas that their next job is going to be this job. Yeah. If they know for sure they need to find another job in the air. Well, then all of a sudden. Like do start looking around wondering who's hiring? Maybe. The day after you get to congress veer incentives have nothing to do with doing right by your constituency, if you know, you're going to be gone by the end of that term literally the day you arrive you have a mission accomplished for congress by getting there. And then the next mission you need to accomplish something to do with your next paycheck. So I think this position is so cruelly, correct. Allowing. I'm not. Well, you and the polish term limits in this room. Yeah. I do believe that's activism work. We win a good one. I think that Bill Clinton should've resigned the presidency because of his sexual impropriety with an intern. Really good one. Yeah. I think that's not a popular view. But I think that it was because it was somebody who was in his employ. It was wrong enough that it was a front to the presidency. So interesting you say you bring that up. So I was reading on the train up here last night EJ Dion who's great calm wonderful. Just wrote a book called why the right went wrong. I just read it to. Yeah. Phenomenal book, but he has a really interesting discussion of this question of of the Clinton Lewinsky scandal, and he says that I never really understood before is that he makes the argument in there that Clinton lying on national television about this right going out and saying I did not have sexual relations with that woman, which is just one of the really horrible moments in American politics. Really immoral. He thinks it as terrible as that was morally it was actually the right strategy because what Clinton did was he bought time. Yeah. If you just admitted it the primary thing that people would have felt is this guy's terrible guy. And he needs to resign Albie perfectly fine president. But because he was able to slow the process down so much of revelation. He created time with the right organized against himself Sifford Asli and overplayed their hand so badly he became their victim became their victim. Yes. And it was a really I'd never thought about it. That way is totally persuasive argument they made. This cutting totally disgusting back and really think about what Bill Clinton did. They're really morally. You know, what's the right thing for the country in that case. I mean like, I think I'll probably would have been a fine president. I think that Bill Clinton was to the extent that he carried out his responsibilities as president he's sort of did fine. But the the damage done to expectations both of behavior accountability, I think specifically because the sexual misconduct is it's hard to quantify. But I feel that way speaking of books what are a book or a couple books you've read that actually changed the way you thought, you know, one of the things about this job this job and my last job there America, too is that I end up having to read a lot of new books fast. So leaves people and people into no whatever's going on right now if a book is changing the way that something's going on in the news. And so it means that I don't have a lot of time to read books that are out. Outside at the stream. Okay. You know what? I mean. I don't have time. Read old books. I only read when your housing pa- Keti at the time. So I re- differently than I used to because of that. But even you know that doesn't mean that new books are bad. It does it does mean that might flow through in terms of new books in my life is not what I would want it to be. But one thing I look for in books is to get an appreciation of organizational momentum. That's really boring way of saying that what I mean is I try to figure out why things happen. I am entertained by conspiracy theories just as terms of escapist entertainment and bar bar based banter, I really do not believe in them as a as a human being in a study at a person who studies politics, and so I always want to learn why things really happen. And so Steve calls book private empire about Exxon changed my thinking about big corporations, and particularly their relationship to politics the way that Exxon looks at not just who's the president and who's in congress, but the way Exxon looks at literally the global map and the division. Between where countries are and says, we will outlast this map, governments will come and go countries will come and go, but we Exxon will have needs and desires and things that we wanna do which transcend the coming and going of countries and governments, and we need to think in that sort of timeframe that blew my mind has helped me understand more about how we think about big business, Gordon Goldstein's lessons in disaster. Which is about the escalating Vietnam brilliant book about the rationality of that terrible decision. How the incremental each incrementally more terrible decision made sense as you're going step by step and how it wasn't a it wasn't a conspiracy. And it wasn't a cabal, and it wasn't bad people trying to get bad things done. It was reasonable people with understandable, emotions faults and assets making decisions that made sense in the moment that led to something terrible. Without there being any sort of organizational break all. So super helpful for me. You know, I actually this is people are gonna say, oh, yeah. I'd I'd expect that from outta shock doctrine changed my thinking in terms of again like people climb climb. Yeah. If you have a bigger perspective on something going on if you are not caught up in a crisis, and you instead or one of the people who is standing back and figuring out how this crisis is going to benefit you that is a perspective that is worth anticipating seeing crises not just for who creates them. But for who can benefit from them is helpful like, I like I like reading things that make me either look more closely than I have been are broader than I have been. I like things that make me change my time. It smells perspective asking somebody about books to read recently. And he said the biggest problem is I've not read any really good books that were wrong lately. And he is making the argument that people read books that are right. And they just kind of think are safe and smart, and you know, we'll help them, you know, to see something clearly not enough books that have. Be conceptual leaps that the cost of you know, part of that book, maybe not being ripe. It does help you think about things and other way people too many things that mere their own not ideological way of looking at the world, but procedural way of looking at the world. Well, that's what I like reading like reading about business. Yeah. I find very satisfying. Like, I'm not I'm not into like biographies, a famous inventors like I don't care about like, I don't care about the science of genius who are carry about. How big successful organizations that I'm inclined to think of as evil are actually internally organized in a way that makes I wanna know how they see me. Right. I wonder how they see politics as opposed to seeing them as this sort of unitary blackbox. But I think if we need to focus more on things that are wrong. I think you and I should resolve today here to reread, micro trends. I think we should do. I think that's right. I think it's time that we mid the American people are going to be taken over by left, are you left handed. No. But I'm thinking about trying to make myself left handed. So I'll be more smart. Yes. So you can you can be part of the coming revolution. Rachel motto. Thank you so much as congratulations on everything that has has happened in your life over the last few years. You have changed not only your life. But you have changed a lot of people's lives. And what we think of as possible in this world that we're in this media world that we're in. 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Ep. 848 Are They Stealing the Election?

The Dan Bongino Show

1:00:39 hr | 2 years ago

Ep. 848 Are They Stealing the Election?

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan, Bongino, five of the Dan Bongino show producer, Joe, how are you today? Well, it's one of those weeks again, Dan, where do we start? Well, we had a great week last week with the exception of Friday. And listen folks, my show is for you outside of my God in my family. You matter to be more than anything. So I always appreciate you being here. And there were eye because I'm always open with you. There's no fourth wall here ever. I try leave my Email by personally mail out on my website for you to correspond with the show. You very upset about Friday. And I totally understand. Let me just explain to you. What happened a lot of people at an unusual, man. You know, we always get two or three people who would prefer. We talked about some other thing when this topic, but the emails usually very nice, I be almost never thankfully get complaints on the show, which makes me very happy. But Friday a lot of people were upset. We did not address the Florida. What was going on in Florida there? The it's not even I'm not even want to call it the recount show. It's not a recount, I refused to call it that it's the reassessment because they want to reassess the election. It's not stop calling. It the recount they are not even counting in my opinion of legitimate votes anymore because no one can answer a question until they answer the question about what's going on. I'll get to this. Then we'll call it a recount, but I just want to explain you. What happened without wasting your time? I had a marathon day on Friday. I had to go up and do the fire to fly out. Do the five tape gut failed show on the five do Tucker. Wake up the next morning, do FOX and friends and then fly back. Now having said that this is not a PD story. And I love you guys. And ladies, but I don't take days off. I may next year. But I've never in three years missed the show ever any weekday holidays. Nothing. We do two hundred sixty shows a year. I am not paid to do that. I am paid on a salary meaning and I only paid to do two hundred twenty shows. I do too sixty. So does Joe I do not I do it. Because I love you guys. I don't wanna lose my audience, and it's important for me to get out there. Having said that Friday we had a tape early because we had to catch a flight really early. And by the time, we had taped. And Joe, and I got the show out. The Florida information was not as clear yet. And I was I never want to put stuff out there that I got a retract. I'd rather be second or third and right than I than wrong. And I was just uncomfortable. Putting it that's the readers. No other tricks story to it. So my apologies. I never wanna let you down. And I don't want you to feel like I wasted your time. I loved Friday show. We actually thought it was a good one. It was. Yeah. But I you have to understand Joe. And I were determined to get you a show. No matter what I mean, everyone else candidly folks would have just taken a day off or put a guest in there. But we don't do them. You gotta decide one thing pow. What do you do? I need decent item radiator starts saying the rest of them. I just I maybe next year. We'll start taking some time off. Maybe it was better than I didn't do a show. But I was committed to get new show. No matter what. So that's it. I'm sorry for that. But I'm going to get into that today, Florida. What's going on? So don't go anywhere. And I got a lot of information about some Whitaker. What's really going Matt Whitaker? The acting attorney general don't miss this for a minute. So my sincere apologies. A love you to death, folks. I feel really bad. It's been on my mind you ruined my whole weekend for what it's worth. So those of you did. I know portio was upset to Joe Paul's like, well, you could over this already. It's one bad show relaxed. 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I know the system well Iran here for office. I have voted now four times in Florida there. The problems in Florida are not Florida problems. I want to be crystal clear on this. They are Broward County, which is a democrat county. And a Broward in Palm Beach county. They're both democrat county Broward, highly democrat, Palm Beach county leans, democrat, it pretty much never countywide goes Republican, but Broward in Palm Beach county of the sixty seven counties in Florida, the two big democrat counties. Two of the biggest I should say are the ones having problems. It is not a Florida problem. It is a Palm Beach Broward problem. This has been a problem over and over and over again, the Brenda Snipes and a Palm Beach county board of elections down there. They have had issues as you know, from the two thousand recount and others Dave had significant problems. Now, I want to give you the good news. I because I don't want to bury the lead. Here's the good news. I'm folks I've been down here. I got back on Saturday. I have been shaking the trees for everything on this. Here's what I'm getting on the ground. So you can partially smile, but I'm gonna leave you with the bad news last unlike other times because I want to keep you frosty. I don't want anybody sleeping on this. The good news is this Rick. Scott who's the governor is a ninja when it comes to this stuff. I'm not kidding, folks. Don't let Rick Scott's gentlemanly calm. I mean, we've all seen him interviewed on FOX. He's very he certainly not as passionate as I am about stuff. But Rick Scott wins Rick's. Oh, he only wins by some he wins. Rick Scott has not lost the race in Florida. He's one for governor both times both times up sets p ran this time in an upset and won this race this race. I'm telling you is over. Okay. Now, the Democrats are going to pull every single thing out of their hats to try to take this thing back. Rick Scott is not having now when I say not having it. I don't just mean he's sitting out there saying you go to do with your we're gonna take I mean, Scott and the Republicans down in Florida learned a lot from two thousand they have lawyers on this. This is what I'm hearing that already to go ninja style on this thing. They are not messing around. They're not screwing. Around. They're not like two thousand where it took days to get the Bush team down there and fix things up and get people on the ground ready to fight this. The Scott team is ready. They Orrock enrolling they have lawyers. Who know exactly what they're doing? I'm telling you. This guy is a bulldog do not mess with the guy. He gets it. He understands they're trying to steal this thing. And he has a strong strong legal team. Not only that folks. Remember, this is a PR fight to now the Democrats line going forward, which is absurd by the way. And you may see him surgeries it's going to be every vote should count. No, no. No, no, no, no, no every vote shouldn't count Joe every legal vote should count. Bingo, every vote should count. Hey, joe. My, you know, my daughter's like she's fourteen as about as you get is about you want to vote in this election, dad. I can't I'm not no it doesn't matter. The Democrats said every vote should count, you know, Isabelle's vote doesn't count. She can't vote. She's fourteen nonsense. Votes can't count. Oh, why are you bringing that up? Dan. I'll because if you read the court transcript on Luke Rosiak Twitter feed, he did a great job Luke Rosiak from the daily caller. There are attorneys for both Gillam the gubernatorial candidate on the damn side and Nelson the Senate candidate running against God who actually made the case, ladies and gentlemen, in a court transcript, you can read it yourself that a non-citizen votes should been should have been counted treat the transcript. Even the state deport of elections head in Palm Beach county butcher was like now, we're going to disqualify and the lawyers are like we object. It was a non-citizen vote that happened. Now, Marc Elias who is the democrat lawyer for this. Oh, yeah. The same lawyer who is paid by Perkins Kui and the Clinton team to hire fusion GPS, Jen up negative information on Trump crazy how this guy keeps appeared right? Yep. He tried to clean this mess up. He said, these were your junior lawyers. So just to be clear, Joe we're talking about because I don't want the audience, I want you to have all the facts here. Three of the audience on Butman. Yes, sir. Lawyers claimed that a non citizen vote should count. That is. Absolutely. It gets black and white s- against the law Kuku now a lot. It was not Elias Elias who's running the recount operation for the Dem's. Again, the same lawyer the Perkins coup guy hired fusion GPS for Hillary Clinton. Trump. You keeps reappearing in the suspect elections, by the way. Not mean to imply that Trump's win with suspect. I mean suspect because of what the Hillary did not because what Trump did Mark Elias said, well, these were just junior lawyers. They weren't authorized to do that, folks. They did it. It's on the court transcript arguing that a non citizen vote should count. It's there. So a couple of takeaways I'm gonna leave this bullet points for you number one. Scott's team is ready for a battle. And they are not. Screwing around just going to say something else. Understood. You got it. Understood understood daddy. Oh, they are not screwing around they are in this to win it. This is not like two thousand Mona took a few days for us to shake off the cobwebs. They are ready to rock and roll number two. There are sixty seven counties only two problems number three democrat, lawyers and a court transcript argued for a non citizen to be able to vote that happened that is indisputable. Number four, Brenda Snipes, Jesse waters on the five call. They're sneaky Snipes on Friday. When I was there. Brenda Snipes who runs the board of elections at Broward County. We're all these problems are starting to materialize. In addition pomp, each Brenda Snipes can't even tell you what the vote total is, ladies and gentlemen. Why is that the most critical piece of information here? Because ballots have to be in a had to be legal votes. Had to be counted by seven PM on Tuesday, a lot of those early votes and the ones that were in. They had to be announced a half an hour after closing the fact that they can't tell you the total is obvious. It says what? Ladies and gentlemen, they can add votes now by van votes. Let me be clear I'm not suggesting it conspiracy to fill out new balance. I can only I'm not going to tell you what I can't prove. Listen anything can happen. I'm gonna tell you what I think is happening. I don't think they're filling out new ballots. Here's what the problem is folks by not counting giving you a total vote number. A cat. Other words, the ceiling. This is how many votes received one hundred. They can get votes in the mail that weren't properly postmarked weren't sign. They were just frankly invalid they were non-citizens those votes, which would have been immediately discounted by. Now, if you can't give a ceiling on the number can be added to the total later folks, you have to vote by certain time on election day with your with your vote by mail, which is significant Florida a lot of people vote by mail. I did you have to vote by a certain day. Ladies and gentlemen, what I'm getting at by not giving a vote total is she somehow suggesting that not only early voting a big thing in Florida, Joe. But late voting is cool to vote up to two months later Scots in office at a Senate Joe Armacost moves down to Florida. He's filling out a ballot. He got in the mail. Hey, we could still fold right? Brennan tonight said it's okay. This is the Democrats line of attack every vote should count. No every vote shouldn't count every legal vote should count. Your vote has to be in the mail or you have to show up at the polls by seven PM on election day. It's as simple as that. It's not hard. I was going to the polls the vote and Ninette was with me. She said I really wish I could vote in Florida. And guess what you can you tell them that move on down. Move apparently vote maybe up till next. I don't know how long the polls are going to stay open stand. Obviously Joe's kidding. He's not recommending. It's a joke. But still is the Cuban is every joke. Right. That's funny. Joe has an air of reality to bet. Yeah. If this is the case are making the connection, right? Why the total vote count matters. Yeah. Yet, she gives a total vote count. And it's and it certified one hundred votes. They can't add more that hundred votes. She has if she needed fifty one votes for the Democrats win. She's got find them in that one hundred in that pool of one hundred votes. You get it works. Yep. Check xactly. But when she doesn't put it this is the genius of not announcing, and I say genius in it in a nefarious way. But this is the genius of not announcing a total vote count. All of a sudden, you know, here's the vote. There's vote. Here's the vote to Dr Pepper song. Right. We found a vote here. We found about their look to her balance in the closet. There were ballots in the car there were balancing. A bathroom. Some guy goes into bathroom. He needed a little pep though. He's look they're balanced behind the poll, this balance here all of a sudden how many ballots this twenty-five or how many were democrat fifteen. Let's take those ballots. This is the whole point of putting a hard cap on. When you're supposed to vote when you're supposed to vote the timelines up, and how many votes are outstanding. She doesn't want to do it. Now, you may say, okay. Well, what's going on? How are we going to fix this, Dan? Okay. Let me give you some more stuff. I want to throw out there. And what this is by the way, I'm going to tell you what this is really about. I haven't even gotten to that yet. This is not just about Scott. And the Santa's my opinion those races are over Scott's team is not going to take this lying down. I think the Santa's is ahead by a healthy enough margin that even calculating an if fraud were to occur. I think I think the Santa's in a healthy enough lead. I'm not telling anybody not be anxious about it. Don't get me wrong. I'm just giving you an opinion. This is about something else in my opinion. But I wanna get to that in a second. I still got a couple more things on this couple more points here late Tuesday night. Scotts electoral win, which it was was projected to be around fifty seven thousand votes that's election night by once they morning. Wow. Lee drops thirty eight thousand by Wednesday evenings about thirty thousand by Thursday's about Twenty-one thousand by Thursday evening. It's about fifteen thousand crazy crazy how that happens. It's only the Republicans vote count keeps going down, right? Here's Rica's PETA Joe on election night Broward County, where we're Brenda Snipes is in charge over there. On election night. She said, oh, there are six hundred thirty four thousand votes cast notice how the total vote tally. She never sticks a hard ceiling on it Mesa. She just did. Okay. She said six hundred thirty four on election I off but that changed show at one AM Thursday. We'll there were six hundred ninety five thousand seven hundred on. Two thirty pm Thursday. It was up to seven hundred seven thousand by Thursday evening. It was seven hundred twelve thousand where the hell are they find these new votes? Oh, there's a truck in fact with both where did that come from again that suggested people in the back of the truck filling out votes, but ladies and gentlemen, coming from the state of Maryland where I was involved in an election with some suspicious activity in Frederick city where people who were who claimed on their jury duty form they were not citizens somehow managed to vote. Let me tell you some where there's smoke. There's fire in a lot of these cases Joe remember the Ellen Sauerbrey race. Do celebrate wins the race for governors Republican in Maryland, all of a sudden Baltimore City, what a twenty seven thousand votes show. How did that happen? That's why you put a cap on and on election night all vote shouldn't count legal votes should count. Bingo. Now, don't give Susan book or a pass in Palm Beach county either. They're still finding votes as well Palm Beach is a huge County Down here. They haven't followed. Here's Florida law. It just so you understand too because I didn't want to waste your time. They did not have all this on Friday. So again, forgive me. But here we go Florida law requires that vote by mail and absentee ballots are accounted for within thirty minutes of polls closing Palm Beach county failed to update the department of state. They hadn't done it by ten by by Wednesday morning at ten nine thousand nine AM. This is a total violation of the law. Snipe has a history of this destroying ballots in two thousand sixteen allegations apprentice Snipes doing that by the way, some of the people folks who are upset with Brenda Snipes are not just Republicans. There's a democrat Tim Canova ran against Debbie Wasserman Schultz. He I think he's an independent now. But he's not a Republican. He's been leading the charge on us. We have that video. I can't verify it. I'm just saying it's. Out of Canova with ballots being loaded into trucks. Now to leave off this segment of the action items is I'm going to anybody can complain about it. You're getting a lot of that. Here's what has to happen. And here's what this is really about. I use what has to happen. The secretary of state Florida has to come in and take this over in receivership Matt gaetz. It's been incredible on this. We have some sound. It's four minutes. I'm not gonna play the home just gonna play a little snippet of, but Matt gaetz who is turned into a real bulldog congress being in a good way. Congressman Dan us been leading the fight on behalf of the antithesis team. To get this election certified with the wind than it was not the theft that they're trying right? He has been suggested. And he's right. The secretary of state has to come in and take over here takeover. Brenda Snipes should be removed. She has broken that. She signal, ladies and gentlemen. The law means nothing I've been thinking this weekend. I don't know what to do if this is stolen. Brenda Snipes has ignored court orders. She is ignored allowing people to come in there by law to view the process. She is blitz of Jesus ignoring I don't know how any other easy way to say. She's just ignoring the law the law required her to report by a certain time, right? She didn't do it. Well, we just going to let this happen. She needs to be removed. That's step one. Let's get the vote count it the right way. Now, let's get it done. Let's get it done by Thursday. If after Thursday, I'm thinking about this all week, and they try to steal this election. I'm trying to think of a an organized way. So I can recommend the use some steps, and I haven't I haven't been able to formulate protesting is not enough folks as any people protest. I'm going to do anything. I'm sorry. You know, it's good to get out there. Don't get me wrong. But give me some time on this. I'm trying to think this through what we can do in an organized way to get a selves back to the rule of law not allow this to continue but step one the secretary of state has got to move in sniped has got to be removed book or two if she can't figure it out. This is outrageous. If north authority to grant extensions. There's no extensions the vote in by Thursday, or that's it certified or you're out. Now, what's this really about? This is about sorry. I was just pulling up some I tickle. I took a lot of notes before the show so upset about. It's not about the governor's race. Folks. It's not about the Senate race. They're not gonna win that. I'm confident the Scott team is in it to win it. And the Santa's team is not screwing around. What I believe this is really about as the agriculture the secretary of Agra. Theatrics. The agriculture Commissioner race down here in Florida. You may say what the hell they're Where'd that come from here. And this is I know you haven't heard this, right? You again take the whole weekend. I've been shaking the trees for what's really going on down here. And the reason I asked that question is the Bush v gore race was competitive because it was a three digit rates. It was eight hundred votes. What he wanted to winning by five hundred votes in the state of Florida state with twenty plus million people this race my opinion. They're not going to be able to fabricate enough votes. They'll try somehow get late ballots. Whatever it is. I don't think they're going to do it. The agriculture. Commissioner race is important down here. Why? Because the agriculture Commissioner does what what is he responsible for? I'm not saying this ROY the add Commissioner. Concealed carry weapons permits. It was a big deal down here in Florida who had he's in that race on election night. Matt Caldwell who was the Republican running who is a staunch defender of your second amendment rights for agriculture Commissioner, he was up by forty thousand votes. All of a sudden new Broward County ballot. Started appearing now called wells down by almost five thousand votes. Chia added that happen. Crazy. He's a ballot. There's a ballot. He used the ballot two ballots everywhere. Balanced dare balance balance balance everywhere, it's not the two races. They're trying to keep that the focus on and believe me, they'll take the don't mistake. What I'm saying? They'll take gubernatorial and a Senate if they could steal, but they understand the likelihood is Neil. But the likelihood of stealing the agr- ace right now looks very good. Now. Let me read to you a little snippet from a while back when he was running against the democrat. This is the add Commissioner candidate Matt call boohoo again one on election night. But now as mysteriously down because of all these years a ballot. There's about balance every down by five thousand one of these ballots here for you free. Who never they never are. If you're a Republican this this is from this is from a few weeks ago. Nikki freed is the democrat. She is a huge gun grabber. She will be in charge of the concealed carry. Process. All look at all the people she's got working for they're not exactly fans at the second amendment from this piece freed who has already been in touch with current agricultural Commissioner Adam Putnam regarding the transition this story, this is from listen to her priorities. He was he was the Republican renting it's the Santa's said her, and he was the commission said her first priorities aligned with our key campaign points. She will look at water quality expanding medical marijuana and conducting a thorough investigation of the background checks and they concealed weapons process. Wow. Now when you go back and you look at her campaign stance to Narayan will not be in charge of the NRA's not charge of anything. And I don't know what they're talking about. The know I work at ATV on a mystery. I don't work for the NRA and worked for production company that produces shit show. I do not work for the NRA can't say that enough. And that a member of a lifetime member I perfectly aligned with the second amendment values. I'm just saying to you. I don't work for the NRA. I never have I worked for. Tv it's a production company that produces stuff for them. Nikki freed ran against second amendment values. Big time, ladies and gentlemen. They are hoping that the attention stays on the gubernatorial and a Senate race and this theft of the agriculture. Commissioner race is flies right under the radar. Listen to me, I'm telling ya. You heard it here first, this is what this thing is really about do not lose sight of that race either. Because if they figure out they can do this in Florida, they can do it anywhere. Just keep demanding recounts late votes vote turns up here vote turns up there just keep demanding recounts until eventually you get the count you want and the aggravates. They're hoping everybody forgets about it. So this is not just an effort to steal an election. It's also shiny ball moment. You know, keep your eye on the shiny ball. Yeah. Yeah. Look, squirrel. And then all of a sudden the race. Joe, listen, you you're intimately involved in this. I've been communicating with you all week, and you heard Adam called I've excuse me Mackall, Nikki freed, no, no. You know, what has there the two candidate? Nobody's an SP, but you know, Nelson, and you know, this ant this, of course, you do. And everybody knows about the two thousand recount, folks. That's what this really about. Make no mistake. They are managing to flip that race and all the attention on the other two thankfully, mad called wells, not taking this lying down. He's hired George Lamu, very prominent former politician here in Florida, and I think I hope that but Nikki freeze already declared that she wanted a democrat. All right. That's that's about Joe. Favorite? That's mac. Aids has been a bulldog on this. I want to play a quick clip of him. I think it's on CNN and gates has been just a fireball on this whole issue play that cut. It is hard to get the proof of fraud. When the very proof itself is being hidden by the Broward County supervisor of elections. It was an election where eight million Floridians voted sixty five of the sixty seven counties did everything right and had their returns posted. According to law, only in deep, blue, Broward and Palm Beach counties familiar to all of us who follow elections was there yet another persistent challenge. So here's what we're looking for. We just want to know how many votes were cast many of them have been percent. And how many are outstanding all reason? I don't think that it's unreasonable those things so. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what isn't with. Let's talk about. What isn't though you are right? You should have transparency on all levels more than we've ever had before. Agreed. But you said something else that I can't agree with because it doesn't meet the test the logic. We can't get the proof of the fraud because they won't let us see the votes. That's not how an allegation works. And you know, that if you have proof of fought actually say. Really? No, no, no, no, no. You know, some just want to see the dead and the data and look. Yeah. But, but when litigants has you know is a lawyer when litigants of sorry, keep going hide evidence or potentially destroy evidence. There are adverse infant for instance, drawn against those litigants Joe literally just told me before the show. Not this thick my finger up until I wanted to. And what did I do? I stick my finger, and it's like a habit. I can't it's gotta be because, but that's that little sip. It was not on. Joe? That's something that end part is critical. I'm actually glad you stop it. What you did that end. Part gates said is critical gates is no dope. He's a congressman from the panhandle of Florida. Chris Cuomo is saying now, if this is the Democrats new line, they cannot argue the fact that Brenda Snipes and others are hiding the data because they are because nobody's seen him. It's like playing hide and seek. We're daughter. Where's your daughter? She hiding. No, no, she's not hiding where is she? I don't know. We'll either she's hiding or you lost there because you don't know where she is either the data's there. It's not. So Chris Cuomo understands he has no argument on that front. So what does he do because he's a democrat activists pretending to be a CNN anchor. What does he do? He has to resort to wealthy. You have proof of fraud and gates says listen, they're hiding the data that is a war zone proof of at a minimum, ow fees ins, which indicates that they could be committing some kind of an election election fraud on us and Cuomo doesn't know how to respond only response back as well. The you have proof and gates makes a great point. That's why wrapped it up with that that when you're a litigant when you're in a criminal trial, and one of the sides refuses to turn over against they court order key evidence. Ladies and gentlemen. Of course, that's going to be used as evidence that there's something wrong. Do you get that you understand? I'm trying Joe for a Bank robbery as as as a local prosecutor and Joe's attorney refuses to turn over Joe's DNA, despite the court order there was DNA found that the scene. Do you pick the attorneys not going to use that as evidence at trial that Joe is hiding his DNA for a reason gates is right Cuomo's wrong. Now, there's a distrust be re on FOX does this all the time. She doesn't understand what evidence is what Cuomo is saying is do you have proof and the answer is no nobody has proof of fraud yet. There's proof of malfeasance, but there's not proof of fraud. But that's not what Cuomo ask Joe Cuomo said do you have evidence and gates is right when you're arguing with your friends. Yes, there's evidence is there proof yet. No. But the evidence of fraud by the fact that they're hiding information. They have been legally ordered to produce. It's not an opinion is evidence. Joe does that make sense? I'm not turning over my DNA, the court orders you to we're not doing it. That's evidence that you're hiding something. You just got to be brought up in court is it proof. No. But it is evidence. This is what makes me so furious you have evidence. Yes, they're hiding it. That is the evidence. No, no, no. That's it's not proof. And then they could fall. Well, if you don't have proof, you shouldn't say and Gates's smarter because we're looking for proof show us the evidence. Do you understand how if you're smart like eight schism this? You can't lose this debate. We have evidence the evidence is are hiding the vote tallies against the court order. Well, that's not proof point stipulated show me the data. And then we'll have proof that what you're saying. Is right. Oh, we don't want to show you that. Okay. There's my evidence. You can't lose this debate. Folks. You can we are right. They are wrong. Oh, man few comb Cuomo is just so bought into the liberal activists of he can't even admit that. This is a disaster. This folks really people are furious down here in Florida, by the way, folks, this is not going to end well for the Democrats. It is not I assure you, the people are furious down here. They feel like the elections already been stolen. So then a FOX's morning. All right. I got a ton of stuff to get to. 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That's that's my commitment. Owning the libs. Always every day. She wake up every morning. He said. I own the libs this weekend. If you haven't get on it. It's Monday morning. So was there supposed to be a coup? Right. The Donald Trump election was a coup the Russians got Vom he colluded. It's interesting that if Donald Trump if it was a coup involved to take over the government's fascinated Democrats took back the house, and he let it happened in the basic. We're the Russians on this one. Folks, I'm just asking just throwing that out there. There was this devious coup to take over the government conjunction with the Russians. Of course. That's all nonsense made up by a bunch of basement dwelling s'mores eating losers in their basement. You know, waiting for dinner for mommy who were like thirty years old don't have jobs in probably work for media matters. But there was no coup where are the riots in the streets right now with the Republicans and conservatives all upset. Well, the answer is none because it was no coup the election in twenty in two thousand sixteen for president was legitimate. Donald Trump won legitimately the Democrats took back the house. We didn't like the result. But it fairly it was a fair election. And it's simple as that at least up until Florida and Arizona, I haven't even gotten Arizona, folks. That's a whole different issue of that. We have some problems over there too. But there are no riots in the streets because conservatives don't do that because they have jobs and families to get to unlike the crowd has nothing to do when they're not in their basement with their lot one other quick thing before I get to Whitaker because this is another pressing issue, and I want to get to I want to give you the skinny on. Why they're battling gets Whitaker. Folks, do not downplay this Clinton twenty twenty talk. I was on FOX and friends this morning, and this came up that prominent pollster Mark Penn who is very well connected. And the Democrats fear space is throwing out there. The Wall Street up today that Hillary Clinton's gonna run again, and he calls it Hillary four point out how she's going to now run as a far left firebrand like an Elizabeth Warren kind of candidate far left big time. Liberal open borders, all that stuff a lot of people laughing about it, folks. I'm telling you I worked for the Clintons. I worked for her for a long time. Do not for a second downplay this I'm serious as Trump presidency and reelection matters to me, they asked me a question of FOX's upset some people. They Email me. They couldn't believe I said it they asked me on FOX this morning, this Hillary, and if you ever watch I never ever Joe, you see me on TV thousand times, I always give an answer right away. Yeah. I never ever like look stop take a break to think about something. Due CS me this morning right before the end of the cuts Doocey said, Dan, I hear it my year through the phone line in my studio, right? Can Hillary Clinton win? And folks that took me a second. Because I didn't want to give the wrong impression. I said, yes. And I could tell they were shot. And I think the audience was too because I got a few emails. How could you say that folks? I love the president. I am actively going to work for his reelection. There's that's not in dispute, but I'm Hillary I worked for Hillary Clinton. This woman is unbelievably ambitious do not sleep on it for a second. Oh, she can't win. She's going to get smoked. No, no, no, no, no. She can shoot. You saw what she was willing to do when the two thousand sixteen election fusion GPS, the whole spy gate drama now one thing Penn points out, which you should not forget say all show never get through the primary. Yeah. I don't think let me be clear on this. I don't think she will win. I think she can you know, what I'm saying. Joe there's a difference. I think Trump will win. I think we're doing pretty well, especially if the economy keeps motor, but I would Hillary Ken win. And here's why Mark Penn is right. This guy's. Democrat folks, he said Hillary Clinton's machine has not dissipated at all. Now, her political capital has been crushed a little bit. But at the machine is still strong enough and the people running against her, ladies and gentlemen, our total amateurs they're amateurs, you got sporadic up there and Cory Booker. You got polka hot this Elizabeth Warren, claiming she's one one millionth native American. You got Amy Koba char- who nobody knows seems like a nice enough lady. But nobody knows her. You got Bernie Sanders. The votes going to be split amongst and liberal Lisbeth Warren amongst the liberal intelligentsia, folks, they're amateurs who who's gonna run Cossio Cortes. You Mark Penn makes a great point. Hillary Clinton is very comfortable, wiping the slate of amateurs, it can keep in mind. Now, folks a lot of these racists are plorarity plurality racism primaries. They're not majorities in a lot of these primaries. Meaning what meaning Hillary's just kit. She can win a twenty five percent. If there were twenty candidates in there right Kamala Harris who again during the cavenaugh hearings. They showed a complete out of touch sensitivity to how bad this was going to for them. They thought they were winning cavenaugh. Frankly, got people liked it in the Senate Democrats NC coming because they're amateurs Hillary will clean the deck with them. Now is always a chance, she'll implode. But I'm just saying don't go to sleep on this one. Please Joe if you remember correctly in two thousand sixteen. The same thing happened with Trump Democrats, right? I trump. He's an idiot. You're not gonna win. Oh, look a wins projected winter Donald Trump. Don't do it. Don't make the mistake. You're not going to get that on this show. Anybody could come out who to so stupid twenty twenty joke. It's not a joke. Folks. This is serious. She has a machine of people who are favors going back decades. They are not screwing around the Clintons. Do not mess around. They have shown themselves, very formidable. Remember when Bill Clinton and the the Arkansas governor he lost any comes back to come. What a Bill Clinton what they call him the comeback kid that was his name. I'm not kissing guys. But I can't stand their politics their thirty. I wrote a whole book against them the spy gate book. I'm just saying I don't want us to make the same mistake. All right enough on that moving on. Hey, there's a really. A really good article. Conservative treehouse guys put together fascinating theory. I I considered not in this light though, it put a new angle on it. Matt Whitaker who is the appointed attorney general the acting attorney general right now, by the way, it is a constitutional appointment. The let me just read something to you. Because your liberal friends. Don't get don't know what they're talking about. There's a federal vacancies reform act put out in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight and this is from Ken coup. Caskey's peace and Breitbart, this is all up in the show notes today. It provides several routes for someone to fulfill the duties of important positions while the nomination and confirmation process for a new attorney general plays out. It's five thirty three forty five portion a to Joe allows the president to name a person who has served in that department for at least ninety days and a pay level of GS fifteen or higher essentially a top level career civil servant or non Senate political appointee to serve as the acting officer. It's a it's a appointments fine. Legally, this is all bluster now, I'm so he has served for nine hundred as Whitaker, and he has served at a level of GS fifteen or higher so he can serve for certain amount of days, while the confirmation process goes through the rest of the stuff, they're telling you. About. It's an illegal appointment is just bluster in nonsense. Okay. Now, you have to ask yourself. The reason I bring that up Joe because the left is I've always said on the show doesn't do anything by accident. Nothing happens by accident. Why are they making such a stink against Whitaker? Well, the conservative tree house guys, call them, the cleaner, and they have a little thing. You know, he's bald. So the Mr Clean thing next to take all them, the cleaner, and they bring up an interesting point. Why would the left object soc wrongly to Whitaker? Well, we already know Whitaker. They're bothered by the fact that Whitaker is asking questions about the Muller probe, by the way, which they're perfectly entitled to do. This is not an any way disqualifying only in the minds of looney toon. Liberals is at this qualify. Let people in the Justice department outside of recusals are perfectly entitled to ask inferior officers in this case, Bob Muller. What the hell they're doing with the special counsel probe? Did nothing. You don't you? Don't like that vote them all out the next election, and then you can pick new people in the DOJ. That's how executive power works for liberals who were unfamiliar with the constitution. But why all of this rage against Whitaker? Well, now, it's starting to make sense a little bit. And they have an interesting theory. There have been a there's there's been excuse me. There has been a series of investigative breadcrumbs left behind. Honestly bread crumbs left behind. Series thought I was talking to her. That's hysterical. Not there have been a series Syria getting involved in my show of investigative breadcrumbs left behind that. The tree house guys believe Whitaker may have had something to do with it. And I've spoken about this before in a different context not trying to take credit for their story. But it's weird. How this information appeared? Here we go. Let me leave you three things. The release of the the Mark Warner who was the vice chair of the Senate Intel committee the release of the text between him and Waldman. I'll tie this together in a second. Just keep these three data points in mind. These pieces of information were released with very little explanation and no background. And there's been people that a tough time tying together. Why? No, one was seemingly prodding for them. They just appeared. Joe? In other words, like someone was leaving a trail for us to find. So Mark Warner the democrat on the Intel committee he texts. Adam Waldman, the texts were released, and there's a key piece of information that in a second piece number two. The wolf and the wolf charging documents the guy on the Senate Intel community staffer that is charged with lying to federal investigators about leagues pieces of information were leaked there. There was around the indictment time so that's easily explainable and they get to that in a PC. But this other one makes no sense either in July the Pfizer application in redacted form was released and it happened on a Friday night show. Remember, I was like God. And we do a special about this. So you have the Feis let's go over the dates here in March you have the Mark Warner democrat Senator on the Intel committee texts released in June. You have the charging documents for wolf and his his his his arrest and that stuff comes out. In July, you have the FIS award. Now, let me tie it together for you. Ladies and gentlemen, is appeared for a long time. And this has been this is why I get so when people tell me, you know, people think I'm like, I'm not pro or anti-secession my whole the whole take it east thing is not wasn't about sessions. I told you the accuser was disastrous. I've been honest about that from the start I get flak from both sides on that. But there are things clearly going on in the DOJ. They're happening slow. I get it. I get it. But there are things happening. Why were those things released? How are they tied together? In those Mark Warner Democrats center on the Intel committee tax to Adam Waldman. There is a text on March seventeenth don't forget that they March seventeenth 2017. Let me quote, you the text from democrat Senator to a lobbyist working with Russians and Christopher Steele was got connections to them. Right. The text is hey, I just tried to call you. But now, I'm going into the skiff you spell Skift wrong. The acronym. Which is interesting. Going into the skiff, which is a sensitive that information facility. So on March seventeenth, Joe stop me. If you lose me here on March seventeen twenty seventeen a democrat Senator intimately involved in this. Russia probe is texting lobbyist works at working with a prominent Russian Oleg therapa ska. He's also familiar with steel he's offering to connect you the guy and up the fake information on Trump one is texting that lobbyists that he's going into a sensitive facility to look at a document. Right. He's going into the skiff. That's released in February. She's me February of two thousand eighteen everybody was like, well, why would we want to know? Mark Warner was doing on March seventeen. Oh, look, what's really s- te in June. James wolfe? A staffer for that committee is locked up. It is being prosecuted for lying about the release of a classified document. So now, we're told so if I of information released their leading us down a path is, okay. Okay. Mark Warner's texting this guy about reviewing a classified document March seventeenth couple months later. Another piece of information is releases if dente leading us somewhere a staffer, I'm Mark Warner's committee is arrested for lying about the leak of classified document. Okay. Okay. So now, we know, oh, what appears July. Wow. The FIS the application in it's redacted form where every day every day. Joe? Is blacked out except for one a stamp on the end of the document when it was printed out to be taken over apparently to the Senate Intel committee, what's the date handwritten next to that stamp? Oh, March seventeenth twenty seventeen. Ladies and gentlemen. These things appeared outside of the wolf charging documents again hat tip to them for putting this together. I saw this a little differently. But it's a fascinating theory that somebody's leading us down a golden brick road. You have this tidbit about Mark Warner his tax and they were suspicious, but confusing. Where's Mark Warner going March seventeen? We didn't have it in February then in June. Oh, a Senate staffer Mark Warner's committee was locked up in his being interviewed at prosecuted for leaking sensitive documents. Oh, just a few months later a sensitive documents released with the date March seventeenth the same date. That Warner is texting Adam Waldman. Hey, I'm going into the skiff to review it document. Folks. Somebody's bringing us somewhere. Again. I'm not I'm not getting into this. Like there are a million indictments out to. I'm just telling you things are happening there happening slow, but things are happening wheels are turning that turning fast enough. I'm a little worried about what's going on with Huber to be candid. Where is the Meatloaf mob? We're all asking gets right. But I'm here to give you the truth. Somebody was leading us down this path. And ladies and gentlemen, it probably was not sessions. Let's go full circle. Now, the Democrats are fired up about Whitaker's appointment why why would Trump take on the political? Bammer from the left for an appointment when he just could've put Rosenstein in charge and the left would've loved it. Folks. It's illegal appointment. May I suggest to you that the treehouse guys may be onto something that Whitaker's? The former chief of staff may have had some role in this invest perfectly legitimate and credible investigation into massive leaks of information from the Senate Intel committee into the public. It's a fascinating theory. That is why the left is going wild. Now, it explains a lot. It also explains Trump's Trump net folks, don't don't sleep on Trump either. I'm serious. Sometimes Trump will get a little hyperbolic, it's a queens thing. But when he says stuff off the cuff, sometimes it you have to have the Trump translator. There's something behind it. It's not just random. Did you notice show anytime Trump is questioned about Whitaker? Even put this out on one of his tweets. This is important. He's always sure to personally distance themselves from Winokur, she what he said on the south grounds she but he said, right? They asked him about Whitaker. He says, I don't know. I don't know. Yes. He said he's got a good reputation. But I don't know. And then again, which was why Trump's not dumb don't telling you don't downplay this case, not stupid. He said that for a reason. And then he follows it up in a tweet where he says, no social contact. That's in his tweet Nova's. I have not socially been a friend. I don't know this guy. What I'm suggesting to you folks, is that Whitaker may be involved in a very legitimate very serious investigation ongoing since gosh last November between Dan Coats, and the department of Justice and the director of national intelligence, Dan Coats, and the department of Justice to weed out a bunch of leakers who have been working within the government to destroy the reputation of Donald Trump and everyone else. Whitaker may have had a role in leaving those investigative breadcrumbs. Here's the Warner text. Oh, here's the wolf thing. Oh, here's the date. Bingo. It makes total sense. Now, it makes sense that Trump would distance himself personally because I agree with this. Trump likely has not been briefed on this. You may say how the hell's that, Dan? How is Donald Trump the president United States not briefed on this -nificant investigation? Wait, wait. Wait. Because of these significant overlap between this and the nonsensical collusion narrative. It's likely that people injustice are probably trying to keep trumpet arm's distance. So he has not a but actual deniability. I nothing to do which he didn't you get what I'm saying. They probably didn't Dax why this constant effort to say, I don't know Whitaker. I've had no social contact. In other words, he hasn't briefed me on any of this stuff. He's been doing it on his own. It's portion of a legitimate leak investigation into the government. Joe is this makes sense because this is critical because you have folks, you know, I wake up every morning, and I'm I'm like obsessed with why why why why are liberals doing what they're doing? Why are they doing what to do is always a reason liberals aren't stupid don't ever think that that's why try to dissuade people from joking about the Hillary thing? Yeah. I just don't it's not funny. These people are for real if Hillary is thinking about running she's doing it 'cause she has evidence. She could win if liberals are going after Whitaker with fangs like, they're doing a constitutional Whitaker gut on me recused. It's for a reason the reason is he is probably need deep in this leak investigation, which is going to expose Democrats senators and others as having been involved in potentially felony leaks to disparage the Trump team is it makes sense. Now is that that I tied that up? I'm sorry. I had to take that slow. But you have to understand that Whitaker has been leading us down the golden brick road to win actual wizard of Oz. Not the fake one and the wizard of Oz. Is there are potentially democrat elected politicians, and liberal bureaucrats who are need deep in a felony criminal leaks scandal that Whitaker knows about. That's why they're losing their minds. Think about all those appearances of all those pieces of information, they appear seemingly randomly. Out of nowhere. Oh, look at these texts about a March seventeenth appearance on the Skift by water. What what what does that? And he's and he's texting guy working for a Russian lobbyist. Why why did you ever think? Why? Then all of a sudden, oh wolf it. Just appears this guy got arrested. And we find out that the document that he was likely in possession of. Was released with the stamp of March seventeen the same day. The democrat Senator was going into the skiff who else did he tell about that FIS application? Crazy, folks. All right. A couple of the things I have a story in the show say about Jim Komi using private Email, which I just find sad tragic. You know, it's just this is Jim co holier than thou Jim Komi. It's interesting quotes bible verses about his own morale. I've never seen outside of Jim Acosta and Jeff flake a more arrogant self absorbed, narcissistic, individual the gym Komi who apparently was using his own private Email to communicate sensitive information. Now last point on this the stories in the show notes, please check it out. So my website, please subscribe to my Email. This will Email these great stories, including the one I told you about cling Ken Cuco ski and the constitutionality the Whitaker appointment Jody. You remember months ago? I don't want. You think you're wasting your time here? I had said to you that a source. They go one had told me that this was going to happen. I'm not taking a victory lap of just telling you remember that show where I told you senior FBI officials as we're going to be involved in their own private Email scandal. I'm sorry. Folks. I don't have the episode. I don't go back and listen to go look at me say this. I'm telling you what happened. I remember the conversation. Commes is not the only one you heard it here. First this private Email thing is going to get worse. The hell was that? That was Gomer saying, hey, Andy. It's gonna get worse. That's what it was like up there at the upper levels of the bureau. It was. I mean, it was embarrassing. It is not. 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Well, those people in California, and God bless you. I had a house burned down in one tall Long Island. I lived with my aunt it is the most horrifying experience of your life. You have. I know the Democrats object to saying we'll pray for you. I frankly, don't give a damn what they say about that. I will be praying for you. Because the power of prayer matters. It's not gonna fix a rebuild your house. But hopefully, you can have the strength by house burned down. Actually, I live with my aunt it was but everything I had burned with it. And I just want you to understand from someone who's been through this. I didn't even own much back. Then I was about I don't know nineteen or twenty when it happened. But you don't even know what you lost yet because the scar of it goes on for a very long time. There were it was about a year later. I remember saying to myself. Hey, you know, I need that. What was that? I needed to lock it that someone had given me, and it was like a little picture in there. And I'm like damn that burn two and a couple of years later I needed a birth certificate for something. I'm like oh guy. Forever. Got my that burn. Ladies and gentlemen, when you lose everything it doesn't just it doesn't all register in your head overnight. You lose everything. And I'm not talking about just the material stuff can be bought and purchased. The get memories can't five no photos of my child that I have to get them from my father. And my mother did all burn everything I had letters people had written to me all gone, and you know, what when you want to go back and read and relive those moments and those polaroid camera Polaroid's, they were all gone every one of them memories. I had from from when I was a kid all gone, folks. I walked out of there with a pair. Doc, marten boots and jeans. So please pray for them. It matters. I was devastated by it. And I only say it because I was in a diner this weekend. Go to this diner in palm city a lot. I enjoy it. And it's a great place. I take my family there, and I was going to wash my hands that hadn't make sandwich. It got the yolk all over my hands and I walked out. And there was this ninety year old couple getting ready to eat their food. And they were look it was it was a two seater table where they're looking at each other and they had their hands clutch on both sides of the table, and they were praying, and I have to tell you before their meal. I was so deeply moved by it just this is such a wonderful amazing country. And I just if we could all collectively say a prayer for the people in California. It's what they've lost everything and have someone who's been through it. You don't even it's horrible. It is it is a scar. That keeps on opening. You don't even know what you lost until one day go where my kids baby shoes. Onto. So God bless you. All you will be in my prayers at matters. So thanks for listening to folks. I appreciate it. And I do apologize for Friday. I just maybe sometimes I should just take day off. I just wanted to get you good product. I really you mean the world to me you always have and reading negative emails hurts. I don't have a thick skin. I'd be lying if I said, otherwise that's not what I do. I'll see you all tomorrow. Thanks again. Folks, take you just heard the Dan Bongino show did more of din online anytime at conservative review done comb. You can also get Dan's podcast on itunes, or soundcloud and follow Dan on Twitter. Twenty four seven at dbongino.

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Don't Forget About Georgia

The Sean Hannity Show

1:34:12 hr | 9 months ago

Don't Forget About Georgia

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It's not what guy said at all. Who's on the call We're going to get a first look at some polling numbers for matt towery wrote a pretty fascinating column on where the state of georgia is right now in terms of the senate race and he actually said advantage. Democrats let me repeat. That would be a warning. Call all our friends all over it. Lanta all throughout georgia savannah macon. I can't even go through the entire state you know who. You are That you better pay very close attention. i heard that read his column he goes. I'm gonna speak georgia's talk to you just now. You know what it's like to be a georgian Is pretty funny Well known throughout. I mean this guy knows polling in georgia better than anybody. I know and i trust him as much as anybody that i know Oh by the way We got this report. The daily caller that guy in the viral video that sucker punch the trump supporter. I mean pretty vicious right and there was a lot of these incidents over the weekend anyway to the metropolitan police department. They gave the name of this person. Thirty nine years old arrested including inciting violence aggravated assault felon in possession of a firearm having a handgun with them anyway. Paralegal registered sex offender convicted in dc in two thousand and eight. You know all these radical groups they get implicated by people that have agendas. I mean that happens all the time and then you wonder. Why are we having the violence. Why was rodeo drive and a fifth avenue in new york all these expensive stores all boarded up well because they were afraid that donald trump supporters with their kids and maga- hats. We're going to riot now. that was in it. Just keep getting all of these anecdotal stories. Does it bring you to the point. Where the vote count changes the outcome of the election. No does it take away people's faith in elections absolutely every one of them every story you know. How did we find. Twenty six hundred ballots in georgia. Just find what yesterday twenty six. We just found thousand six hundred more two weeks later. Oh sorry about that. I mean how does that happen. There was this incident that took place in. Nevada are now hitting democrats. They're the panic button. Clark county officials had to toss the election results. This was according to vegas review journal. Piece that the discrepancies. Now this is. This was first reported by rick. Grenell that the decision by clark county officials actually tossed out the election results in a really close race because the same issues applied in nevada. Nevada's presidential vote. which is separate and apart also anyway. It's a race for clark county commissioner. You got the democrat in the race. Ross miller defeating starves anthony republican by ten votes people. Please remember this. Whenever there's an election every vote matters Anyway the registrar of voters guy by the name of joe. Gloria said his office identified one hundred and thirty nine unexplainable discrepancies in the contest. And since the discrepancies were more than the margin of victory. The commission contest that called into question the validity of the results of the race and according to the newspaper there and it says now. County officials have directed gloria to come up with options for a special election to decide that race. Rick grenell tweeted monday. Nevada democratic party is in full panic mode clark. County throws out an entire race because of fraud. The entire counties ballots are now suspect and the democratic party is freaking out. I mean how does this happen in the united states. I mean seriously. I know i feel like a broken record. The idea that we have laws. That it statutory language that says partisan observers able to watch the count from start to finish and it didn't happen. Nobody bats an eyelash. I don't know. I think that the only idiot thinks you should follow the law at that integrity and confidence and results of elections. Actually banner i. I'm beginning to just sit here so wrong with me. Thinking that breitbart had an interesting article. I'll get to that in a second W sim by the way had a a report out about a disability service coordinator who works with developmentally. Disabled adults who live in various assisted living facilities around milwaukee saying one of more than twenty clients told her that they were either pressured to vote for biden or had a vote cast for biden before they ever had a chance to see their ballot. I mean does these cases manner or we just gonna like except on. it's fine. we got liberals we got the result. We want what are we care about the rest of it. How about integrity in. Its now we listen one thing. Mark penn said. He wrote a pretty interesting piece. Mark penn pointing out. You know we. This is a pretty divided country. I mean it's never been in. And this is what i was saying in the lead up to this election. I've never seen a democratic socialist party. Emerge that actually have been saying the things that they want to do because what they used to do and did for years was they hide it. They weren't democratic socialists. Bernie sanders was like an outcast out. Liar and you know the crazy uncle and and they just tried to like ignore him but they needed his vote so they would kind of appease him a little bit but that is your democratic party. I mean he's the me a stream of the democratic party people in the media. Say no joe's really a month. Well why did he sign. The bernie biden manifesto. Why is he signing onto the new green. Deal and pledging trillions. Why is he going to put us back. In the paris climate accords which mandates that we reduce our consumption of fossil fuels pennsylvania paying attention pennsylvania. Told you he was lying. I mean he set it in the primaries now. He's going to do what he says if he ever gets into. Sixteen hundred pennsylvania avenue his words on day one. I mean it's okay. Good luck with that. That's the lifeblood of the world's economy not gonna work out well for anybody and i'll tell you another putrid thing i mean. When did you see this yesterday. Bill hemmer was a good for him. You know they have this. Press conference biden by the way gets lost again like usual. The middle of this thing. Finally you know it's gonna be very hard for democrats and the media because haydn biden is going to be doll. He's rarely going to be seen in my opinion especially compared to president trump. You know this guy is a walking gaffe. A second is like. It's so obvious that he's weak. Frail struggling cognitively. They tab protected him the entire campaign he was in the candidate. Protection program of the media and big tech companies. Big tech getting grilled on capitol hill. Today as they should be. And it's like if you're going to go all in and protect well then you broke it and you own it. And i love these people that say they're republicans but they are never trumpers because there were so outraged over. Well he act like every other president and he tweeted too much you know. Do you really believe. The people were offended by tweets that much that their precious little sensibilities were so offended. I don't believe it for a second and the idea that this whole never trump movement and the ads that they paid for them look. I'm a believer in free speech. You don't have to agree with sean hannity in life. That's fine but if you're gonna tell us that you're really a republican and conservative and yet you go out and you take the guy that's governed most conservatively but you're so offended by the way he did it that you're going to support a guy that is expressing radical leftism socialism and ideas that supposedly. You'd been against her whole life. I'm not buying the lie. It is you bought into it all and at the end of this process your guy gets in. Guess what you broke it you own it and what happens is the result of these ridiculous policies. That will end in spectacular. Failure is on your head not mine. Because i tried to warn everybody. Exactly what would happen as loudly as i could. As often as i could socialism or their their stated policies that they support if ever implemented. They are false promises. It will ruin the underpinnings of any strong economy. And just basically look at your obamacare track record and pretty much every other issue any other. Big city run by liberal democrats for decades. They can't even keep you safe. They can't keep you secure. They can't stop the violence. They don't even try to stop the violence. They can't even clean the city streets for example the new york anymore. Then they want to de-fund the police. They're not doing a good job in any big city that i see run by liberal democrats for decades in terms of education of our kids. I don't see it. Where are they doing a great job. Baltimore not really new york city. Nope unmitigated disaster. How's the la school system. Doing not great so if they fail in that regard they fail with obamacare. What makes you think that you're gonna get this guaranteed government. You're going to get your student. Loan forgiveness guaranteed government. Wages guaranteed Government vacations and healthy food and retirement and health care and everything in between how. How are we going to pay for that while simultaneously getting rid of the lifeblood of the world's economy because i don't see it biden comes out does a few questions. How much do you hate. Donald trump today. I hate him a lot. How much do you hate. Donald trump really really deep down inside. Do you hate him. Head of a lot. you've been watching. You know hemmer comes goes lie you pretty much been watching a love fest here between the mob of the media they what are they going to ask a tough question. Never seen a guy run for president ever have to answer serious questions and was aided and abetted in this in this candidate protection program bubble in the basement bunker i mean what are they gonna do build a special bunker in the white house where haydn biden can hang out for four years. Then who's gonna make the decisions you a role amount. Maybe once a day twice a day for a few minutes. I guys good to see No questions that. I all right. Thanks guys you know back to. The bunker does not bode well. Twelve questions unbelievable. Anyway and liberal. Hollywood rob reiner meathead. Republican party is out of its collective effing mind. Okay good luck with that. Good luck with that. Eight hundred nine. Four one sean is on number. You wanna be part of the program. And don't think seventy two seventy three million americans are just gonna go away and just say oh. We're going to let our country go to helena handbasket. I think so. I don't think that's gonna happen. They get their way. And you got heightened biden president trump and exile. I don't think he's going to be particularly quiet as they try to undo all the great success that he's at could get interesting and then the mob in the media they'll try to ignore them did not going to be able to give up their hate. Trump drug that easily right. Christmas is coming. I know how hard it is to find the perfect gift for everybody on your list now for patriots like us who want put something made in america under the tree. It's nearly impossible now. Fortunately our good friends. At henry repeating arms can help they make over two hundred rifles and shotguns to choose from a wide selection of calibers and finishes it can check them out on their website. Henry say dot com. 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What are they gonna do with heightened biden. What are they going to cover every night. Joe came out for five seconds today. Could you imagine you don't even want to go now. It's not that. I'm actually arguing with ethan about it because i i don't really listen. I wanna completely different level on this. I think these people are evil. I think complicit. I think that there are members of the media who have fear on levels that i had never seen before they have created the vision they have created. This anisimov lied to this country for four years every day but the thing is hated they hugh conspiracy theories every day. They are for that. I'll tell you what really bothers me. It's not even that. They lied to us. Because if you can't do your due diligence and you don't know how to read and you don't know how to figure it out yourself got bigger problems but when you actually say all you people hate all you people all you people stinking all you. People are great and you start creating these divisions in our country. It's really really sad linda every election. I always say every two the worst seem boss. I mean it's the absolute worst but it's been building. it's not didn't come out of nowhere. Can't even have a conversation now though like if i say to somebody oh yeah you think that how come. Why are you asking me how come i thought that's how conversation you're where a hat looked. We saw everything with this kid. Nickel sam man. I mean these people that go and they peacefully protest. I thought we admired peaceful protesters in dc this weekend. Look at how they're treated disgusting and let me tell you something children. No last their little kids. Seventy two million americans are pissed off and how much the mainstream media is covering it zero. Yeah well that usually ends up on our plate and a few and by the way just a few others. There's not a whole lot of us to be honest. not all right. You wanna yell at me in a minute. We'll do that on the other side. I'm reading on twitter. I have not confirmed yet that the pennsylvania supreme court ruled philadelphia did not violate state election law when they restricted how close poll observers could stand to By to watch the processing of mail in ballots because a covert how about no they should have made accommodations knowing when considering they were ignoring the great. Dr fauci and i do like dr fauci. Mother's day just a couple of weeks. My friends at shamanee. They are making it a very special mother's day from now to mother's day you'll get the classic genucell to get rid of bags and puffiness under your eyes and the jaw line treatment at a discount. 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And i think he worked with the best of intentions. No mask yes. Mass no mass. Cdc guidelines this one changes that one changes. I think nobody expected the worst pandemic since twenty nine hundred seventeen and eighteen for crying out loud and but with that said this is where i get into a fight with linda. Here i am. I don't even know if i want to open the store. Store is this is not going to work in my favor. We got a lot of issues emerging out of this governors. Now ratcheting up. All these restrictions ahead of thanksgiving. I mean. There are a lot of and you know. Some people saying it cancelled altogether california. Pennsylvania governors mayors. And you know how. How are you going to eat outside when it's like twenty degrees out. That's that's not gonna work well. And then i love governor whitman husband. He breaks the rules. Gavin newsom breaks the rules. Who else broke the rules. you know. that's out there lecturing the rest of us but the big news to is operation warp speed and the president pushing for vaccine fast now paid off. Because now we've got two of them. We told you about maderna's announcement yesterday ninety four point five percent advocacy right which is amazing especially january. Thirty twenty i was the first known case of corona virus. If you can believe it what a year. This is ben that we had and here. We are less than a year later. We've never broken down the sequence of a virus this fast ever in human history with a vaccine that's ninety four and a half percent effective. I mean it's and i know that a lot of states now are experiencing. What we said would happen. Which is it's not if it's when you get a rebound talked about that a lot at the time with dr ause. Our medical aid team here by the way california authorities with all the restrictions that travelling to hawaii as they tell residents california to stay home governor cuomo ripped for telling others to admit mistakes. But you know let's not. Let's not deal with that nursing home decision. I think governor cuomo did it on purpose. no. I don't think he made a mistake and it was a costly one and can happen especially when you had the beds that were built by the president that nobody used. Actually this is. I'm not even making this up. The blaze has a story today. That strip clubs are set to reopen california but churches remain locked down. You can't make that story up. corona virus. Death rate for kids has fallen to zero point zero one percent. i mean. That's the strangest thing people devote their entire lives to viruses and studying viruses and finding vaccines and cures and you know like for example and one. H one is joe. Calls it per swine flu. That impact kids more than adults. This thing attacks older people more than younger people people compromised immune systems. Then we have you know some people by the way sweden member they they had the herd mentality thing now. They're they're putting on restrictions. Because i guess it worked and it didn't work that it worked again. I never bought into it myself. But you know it's i i don't think again. I think people were trying what they thought would work. Best only they wanted to kill people. At least i would hope. That's not their intention Biden is says he wouldn't hesitate to get covid nineteen vaccination of deemed safe. Well i think these pharmaceutical companies are saying that it's safe. Then you have the battle on thanksgiving and you got example. County in new york is saying the not going to comply with governor cuomo's orders citing mass depression and stress resulting from a constant barrage of regulations. This is fulton county. Sheriff richard geraldino announcing the decision in escaping facebook. Post on saturday. Because they're gonna come and arrest him probably by week's end And you know some people not even have thanksgiving thought have it outside or only have three people which family member. You're going to say no to good luck with that now. I think it's just the to me. I'm a mesmerized fascinated. I have a lot of friends that are doctors. One's a brain surgeon actually watched upfront a bring surgery because i'm a lunatic and you know anyway. Linda doesn't like the idea of taking the vaccine. We'll get to that in a second Dr josh embers with us right now with atlas md. Good friend of the program. Dr harvey rice back with shell epidemiology professor guys. Welcome back thank you for being with us with your always octa josh. You've been with us. The whole time. And dr she to great job both of you i i look at this is like an amazing thing and half my friends say under no circumstances would they ever take it dr number. I agree with you that this is really a miracle. Modern medicine and science that We could leverage twenty years of studying the sars family of viruses into functional safe in incredibly effective vaccine in the courses eight nine ten months There's nothing short of fantastic. We stand on the shoulders of all the science. That has come before and i think this is a great opportunity. You think well. I think there's reason to be optimistic. I think that there are some uncertainties. And i think the likelihood of benefit is much stronger than the likelihood of harm and i think it has to play out and i think that people who are feeling that they're more at risk will be more willing to volunteer to take it and they'll become an offense our society guinea pigs and that's what it'll take. It will take some months you know three to six months before that plays out more and people become more comfortable with it and there will be gradual uptake and assuming that it sounds to be highly effective and that the transition time we'll still need to cover the people for whom it doesn't work or who doesn't work well enough or who can't get it or we may find out that they're they're into the virus like the the newly Increasing the and four thirty nine k very mutation of the virus that it may not work for at all because it's a different protein on the outside then the regular virus so all these are unknowns. And we'll just have to work through it dr number. I mean what frustrates me too. I mean i liked the phrase is used when he would say that you go to army with the war the you go to war with the army have not the one you wish you had. And that's what we're talking about. Different treatments like hydroxy clark quinn zithromax zinc etcetera or later remdesivir or now even regeneron or convalescent plasma and all these other treatments there's still like for example a lot of kids coming home from college. They have this thing. Because it's been spreading like wildfire on some college campuses which then puts mom and dad at risk and grandma and grandpa sc right. I mean definitely the there's that exposure and as people travel again They're gonna get it and then they're going to go back home for the holidays and which is why we do see a spike of even normal influenza as as people travel so i think some of that is preventable and some of. It's just not as we have to go in and live our lives and dr russia. I mean what would you what would be your preferred treatment at this point. I think that doctors now have a repertoire of drugs to use. That are very effective in outpatients used early. Hydroxychloroquine is one. Ivermectin is another vitamin d zinc Steroids if indicated There's even more. There's there's a number of things that have been increasingly shown to be useful and these are clinical judgments. Doctors make with each patient. And it's not a cookie cutter recipe but it's why doctors practice medicine with their patients. The strangest thing that i noticed dr burs some people you know that they really fall. Prey to the saying other people get it and by the way younger and older not just and they have either zero symptoms or next to zero symptoms. Why is that. Well i think yeah. That's definitely an interesting aspect of it. probably lots of reasons. One i think we have a lot of false positives on the tests You know for example if it's not a pcr test is not as accurate and the airlines won't accept it so as an example of the proof that it's less accurate and so then you have people say well. I tested positive But didn't have any symptoms and so you'd wonder if they were a false positive For the patients who we've seen that have tested positive on pcr The vast majority of had you mild to moderate moderate to severe symptoms Very few hospitalizations. I think that is aspect of a younger healthier group. potentially But there was an interesting study out yesterday. That started to explain why people might be reacting differently. And it's really in some cases it's the body's response to the infection more than the infection itself much more like an autoimmune illness and so then the body revs up at attacks everything Which might give an interesting mechanism of action for the Medicines like plaque h c. Q four Why they help is because they come down that body Inaccurate response. So i agree. We have a lot of ways to to manage the people who are all spectrums of of their response. Last question of rich. You inclined to take the vaccine. I'm thinking about it I personally would choose hydroxy clerk when as a prophylaxis or ivermectin as a prophylaxis versus a vaccine. But then again. I'm in my seventies already and for me. I think the vaccine less likely to to be that strong You know protection compared to the medications. But i'm open to dr josh. Okay went to get it. what are you are. you can't wait to get it. So i can't wait to get. Yeah okay thank you. And i said that now. I'm going to be very blunt. The fact that i get a flu shot every year draws half my friends nuts. Linda cannot believe. I do this every year and i did it. I dunno whatever two months ago. Yeah i mean but all right anyway doctorate. Thank you dr thank you. There's our answer Linda wii so resistant towards his y resistant towards what the flu shot. Any the flu shot the vaccine. You're like no way never in not gonna happen thinking that thing you know. I think a lot of things that happen in our country can be avoided by self care self awareness taking the proper supplements eating right working out and all these other things. I think americans on the whole pretty lazy. They don't like to get out they don't like to work out. What am i wrong. So are you saying working out is not gonna stop you from getting the virus. No you now listening to me. That's a different conversation. Having a strong of my saying just being healthy so being healthy in general taking your part in your own wellbeing is one conversation than the second conversation is okay now. There's a vaccine out there now. I'm not saying that the vaccine is good or not. Because i don't know enough about it but on the whole there was a lot that we could do for the american people from the beginning but we weren't allowed to do because of government restrictions as dr rish said there are other ideas and prescriptions and therapeutics that can be used hydroxy chloroquine ivermectin with the use of selenium and zinc. And other items that you would check with your own personal primary care. Physician to discuss will allow you to be prophylactic and prepare yourself when you first get it. We could have saved people in their eighties. In their ninety s we could have saved people with preexisting conditions. And i'm in this group. Chat with all of these huge stanford. Harvard yale cornell. You know practicing at lenox hospital. We let me finish. And they were able to treat all these people and all these compromise groups and they were okay and now we have a vaccine fortune. Okay but this is the saddest part. The saddest part was you couldn't even have the discussion. Exactly my point politicized it and shut it down where okay do we have the perfect answer. No but what are we got to. Maybe work with and have some hope and try to save these lives. You're right and that that. By the way. I blame the mob for that. A lot of the medium up could even mention. Donald trump is us. You know whatever because he mentioned hydroxychloroquine had taken at one point early on It's just sad but then we've made more investments and it was severe than it was convalescent plasma then it was regeneron. The bottom line is they politicized the american peoples health period end of sentence. What rosza always say. Politics medicine intersect politics. Always wins gotta take a break Matt tower is going to weigh in on the georgia race. Really important senator. Lindsey graham will join us at qualcomm we believe in staying connected and you can see us wherever five g is helping transform telemedicine supporting remote education empowering mobile. Pc's the invention ages here. Learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age. Quod you're with us. Our to sean hannity show toll free. It's eight hundred nine. Four one sean. If you wanna be a part of the program our friend matt towery syndicated columnists he is upholster. He's now the last two presidential elections. Pretty darn close skulls as anybody in politics. He has an article he wrote today. For real clear politics about the state of georgia Just as background. I got to know matt when i was a local host in georgia from nineteen ninety-two. I'm dating myself here to nineteen ninety six and he was also did a lot of polling over the years for newt. Gingrich was a lieutenant. Governor candidate himself is in the state legislature. I don't know if you're a senator in the house. I don't remember abbas abbas in the house. Okay and so you write this piece I'm going to speak in georgian a realistic primary runoffs in the great state of georgia. Which i thought was interesting. And you know you talk about the scene in the godfather where michael corleones meets in a small restaurant. And he's there with us rival mafia boss and corrupt cop and he has a gun hidden in a bathroom comes out guns blazing kills the two of them. And but in the meantime they had been speaking italian and not. The cop didn't understand what they're talking about. And then you end this thing with now. You know how to speak georgia which was pretty funny about You know about this race now. We know the significant importance of georgia right now and these two senate races insider advantage fox five atlanta which you know for you came out with a poll just moments ago and i. I'm looking at for the first time. You have david. Perdue and his race at forty nine. Forty nine you have. The democrat raphael warnaco seems like a pretty radical kind of extreme left guy up by a point forty. Nine forty eight over kelly. Loftier you have the governor of georgia's approval rating at only thirty seven percent disapproval of forty four percent. Now you take it from there. You know georgia better than anybody. I know well so it's it's a very complicated situation in georgia for your listeners. So they understand. The demographics in georgia have changed substantially over the last ten years. It used to be if you had a run off election. After a general election a republican nominee would win. Our senator saxby chambliss easily won his runoff election back years ago. That's not the case anymore. Georgia obviously was very tight. Biden ended up winning it. Although a lot of people in georgia don't believe that that was fair election back seventy three percent of the republicans we surveyed said they did not believe the results were fair and accurate and they're in. Why some of the problems john. These voters love donald trump. he's republican voters. He is as i said he's not just a political figure he's a religion for these republicans in georgia. They're very upset about the results in georgia. They don't feel like they were fair and accurate. That's what the whole thing. And they haven't heard much from their leaders. They're they're dispirited. And whether or not they're going to turn out at the levels they did for. Donald trump is critical part. Whether these two senators can go from being deadlocked or behind to being able to win. It's a critical part in right. Now it's iffy the other thing. That's iffy as rossio warnock. Yes he seems to be pretty radical and he has some pretty of ideas but he's doing a great job of packing packaging himself on atlanta television and kelly decided that the their group decided to run an ad early on it took him on with some of his radical positions which which was fine except the imagery that they use the they warn a campaign was able to turn around and say basically these are personal attacks. I'm good yeah. I'm talking about issues. I think it was a bad first step for the left or campaign. It was not something i would have done because what it does is. It puts them on the defensive. And it's and it's reflected in these numbers. This is such a big survey that i have one of the biggest. I've ever done in georgia. That i don't think there's much margin of this disc margin various three point five percent. But you know. My work sean. I'm usually within a one point level or so my accuracy. I think this is dead on right and these things are going to be heartbeat type races where republicans are going to have to really get their act together to keep those two seats in the us. Senate the problem. I would argue too. Is that you know. Now we have thanksgiving coming up right and then you have christmas coming up literally talking about how many people vacation christmas week or new year's week which is always mind long big vacation every year right My one big vacation and you know and then you come back on monday than the elections. Tuesday january fifth now the democratic party. I just speaking anecdotally here is stacey. Abrams has very solid organization and getting the vote out obviously worked to some extent now the accuracy it was interesting that seventy three percent of republicans in georgia they. They don't think this outcome was fair and accurate. And i guess when you find twenty six hundred ballots and maybe more. Apparently i just found out today Two weeks after the election. I mean how does anyone have confidence in the results of any election. They screw it up that badly knowing that states can do it easily and get it right every day and yet the why do you think the governor's approval rating down there as tanked well. I think partially because people look to the governor and the secretary state to provide some guidance when president trump appear to be just twisting in the wind here and and they heard too many stories. I mean people in georgia wanted to know why they quit counting votes votes. That happened in alive locations. And i know that that's been disputed. Allegedly by the fact checkers that in reality we had a lot of places just sort of shut down for a period of time and suddenly started counting votes again. I'll tell you the news story just broke across the wire here. That the secretary of state in georgia's now investigating two instances of of potential mismanagement by the fulton county which is the largest county in the state is where the city of atlanta's look. They're elections aboard. So this is starting to unravel more. And even the secretary of state seemed to be very reticent to question. Anything is now having to look into this more than i think they expected. Do we know anymore on that. No i literally just saw this. Just as i got on air Apparently it to various Instances one having to do with the chain of custody vic shocked. They're some of the balance and then another one having to do with with Monitors with ballots. But we've heard these stories replete. I mean i. I can say because i have so many people in georgia report back into me given the fact that you know i did serve an officer. I worked for all three of the network affiliates. I was their political analyst at one time or another the only one i didn't do with cbs. And and i know tons of people there and the stories. I heard back from the people who went to monitor. It was just a disaster. People were told they had to stand across the other side of the room. There were tables where there are no monitors place Some were were were told to be quiet. One person observes that threatened three balance the being counts counted for biden for trump. The person who is supposed to check up on it said they were trump. They change those but then at another table. The person who's supposed to check on the balanced wasn't even looking at them just putting him back into a ben. It was a chaotic mess. And anybody who portrays georges reach out is being a real check of the vote in that state doesn't know what they're talking about. You had a question in your poll. That said signature should match licenses or official registration and it was an easy win. Seventy two nineteen percent with eleven percent undecided. And i'm thinking Now this consent decree earlier in the year after what a lawsuit by the georgia democratic party the democratic senatorial campaign committee the democratic congressional campaign committees. And i guess as part of the consent decree if you requested incorrectly from wrong a mail in ballot that that would that application as long as it matched the signature on the ballot the application and the and and what was on the bout that would suffice which is different from the database. That was used for day of voters. Like if you showed up to vote in georgia and you know. I guess you need a picture. Id in georgia. I'm pretty sure. And then they match your signature up against the signature in the database so to do different systems and i think lynnwood has been looking into that as potential equal protection argument there. Yeah where the real. The real question here is. So we've heard numerous statements by the secretary of state and he said that all Including allegedly the absentee ballots went through this database process. The process check but before he said that they said that every ballot that was applied for online. That was absentee required a photo. Id then needs to the vast majority absentee ballots who applied for were applied for by mail and there was no a photo. Id requirement whatsoever. So already you have one thing a photo. Id requirement for people who show up or go online but no photo id requirement for people. Who just mayo in absentee ballots. And i think stacey. Abrams the saying she has six hundred thousand. Mayo and asking t- ballots already in her pocket right now that us that she's going to be delivering so that's an incredible number votes. We still don't know it's never been. They clear sean whether those ballots were sent by mail. Absentee ballots works whether the original application where there was a signature was loaded into the central state database. And somehow that was used to check against when the ballot was sent in. If that's the case within you have no way of knowing it. That's a real person or not that that's the situation is completely different than someone showing up at the polls signing their signature being scanned into the database because that database is of course from the dmv or the voter registration card. It's an incredibly confusing mess. And that's why seventy three percent of jordan's On the republican side said they don't have any faith in the election. I don't know how in the world and he wants to feel good about the job they've done if the vast majority of the party that elected them says that they don't have any safe in the in the results. I mean this. This is unbelievable to be. Which would mean that a court packing and all this other garbage. Everything's on the table schumer. And you got people from california. Now the wanting to you know hollywood actors and actresses wanna fly out there and joe biden is will be in there. I'm sure obama being there and so on and so forth. Democrats have seemingly an advantage with this built in mellon ballot system. And i guess stacey abrams. I can't falter for doing a good job of mobilizing democrats in the state of georgia. I just i don't understand. Why republicans haven't done the same. Well everything in georgia is cooked against the republicans even though they control the legislature. I'm consider this. Anyone who is a registered voter can show up and vote. They didn't have to vote. In the in the general they can still go register vote. That's crazy the time of the of the vote. If you were going to choose the worst possible time to hold a runoff it would be four. Republicans january the fifth right after everyone in this country is on vacation including you and me. So how do you expect people to show up and vote When you when you place it at such a difficult time period and then you have stacey. And i give her all the credit in the world. Because that's what her job is. She's she's got this neyland valid head of time and their ground game seems to be way ahead of the republicans now. I don't want the republicans who listen to this program to think that i'm saying that the cup republicans are going to lose. But i am going to say this. The republicans right now are a swipe in my opinion. Underdog in these races and anybody. Who doesn't realize that to whistle to the graveyard. This is a very serious situation for republicans. You have to two candidates with different messages. You have a an african american candidate who can drive up the african american vote. You mentioned obama coming to georgia. That's certainly going to help. And he's actually got very good ads on tv right now Then you have another candidate in. Jon ossoff who comes across as a very none of the road candidate sort of centrist. He's not he's to the west of center. And i think most people would tell you that that doesn't mean that the television audience and metro atlanta. Where we've seen the suburban white voters began to actually move to the democratic party. Doesn't mean that they're going to be scared off so this has got to be handled absolutely surgically correctly in georgia. Or you're going to see at least one senate seat lost and potentially vote. I'm gonna put your article. That's on real clear. Politics editor insider advantage fox. Five poll up on hannity dot com. And if you're in georgia knows somebody Send it everybody you know there. This is real matt tower. Thanks so much for being with us support for this. Podcast comes from boost with facebook. Who's podcast boost. 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I sold them singing the national anthem them celebrating their individuality. I saw performance art. I saw dance routines. I saw wrappers i saw it all and to see them. Pray which truly powerful all. They are is constitutional supremacists. They want a free and fair election. That is it. I saw love. I saw unity vs hate. You know i tell you. This is the amazing thing. I don't know what it is. I've noticed this in my adult life doing i do. What's like people have these perceptions of conservatives in by you know partly it's democratic party they they want us to be viewed as racist. Sexist xenophobic homophobic goes lonzo. All that crap every year. And it's it's not the people that i know and you know this. The president seventy two million people army here are real hard working people. I argue the people that really do make america great. It's the people that make a great They weren't there peaceful protests. No rioting there was some violence but it wasn't them except defending themselves from the all the reports. I've seen and i'm just like you know. This is the working heart and soul of america. Which by the way is now being told no thanksgiving under mandate. I'm telling you it's just like these false caricatures are i just people think it's crazy. I mean just not true what we've been dealing with that pretty much our whole career Senator lindsey graham when we get back eight hundred nine four one. Sean is a number. We'll get more your calls to support for this. Podcast comes through carbon in the age of online retail. Buying a car should be no different. That's why carbon invented a brand new way to buy a car. That's one hundred percent online without leaving the comfort of your couch. You can browse and buy from their selection of almost twenty thousand cars and once you've made a purchase. Your car comes to you delivered right to your door or you can go pick it up. 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They just found twenty six hundred votes yesterday. How could they so a lot of a lot to chew on here considering how important those two senate races are lindsey. Graham talked to the secretary of state. I guess is has this announcement. Apparently some other issues now just broken relates to fulton county. We'll get an update on that in a second. And then he's actually saying well. Senator lindsey graham put pressure on me too. And here's what he said. There's some real specific issues. I wanna get to you described To the washington post conversation. You had with republican. Senator lindsey graham on friday. You came away with the impression that he essentially wanted you to look for ways to toss out mail-in ballots. What exactly did he say to. You could be match back to the voters and in. danny. I got the sense it. Then you can throw those out of any really look at the counties with the highest Frequent air of signatures. So that's that's the impression that i got the you know. We've got signature matching place. We have signature match when you request a ballot after the about and the signature match when it comes in and then with our new online asking battle portal That has photo. Id and so we re concept that the election tissues have done their job. And that's what they're chuck charts to do is do their job emission signature match. I just wanna be clear on this service. Secretary you say. Senator graham wanted you to find ways to get rid of legally cast ballots because cnn asked him about these allegations. He denied them. He says that's ridiculous his words. That's ridiculous well. Just an implication that look hard and see how many bouchier throw out and And i think that they're looking at that. As part of court case one actually was subsequently filed. Wasn't it notice what he said. I got the sands That i wanted to look hard at the ballots. Anyway apparently there are other people on the call and one. Such person was the election implementation manager. Some guy named gabriel sterling. And he said no. The call was answering process questions. And that's what we were doing on the call and sterling said. The graham was seeking information about the process. If a party wanted to go to court take action against mail ballots signatures. Don't match anyway senator. Graham joins us now. While i guess. I guess you feel vindicated. How many other people were on the line. How many people were there. A bunch of people staff. I called up the secretary of state of georgia. I'm trying to figure out how mellon balloting works throughout the country. And here's what i can tell your audience. It's we not come up with a better system to verify signatures in ballots. That's the end of the republican party. Stacey abrams is taking over the georgia election system Somehow they signed a consent decree allowing the ballot application to go into the database. So if you've got an envelope with bob smith fame on it signature. You don't want to compare it to the ballot application costs if there was fraud. You comparing it to the forgers signature. You wanna compare it to signature before the ballot was applied for something that you're bob smith before. They applied for the ballot. So they're all kind of concerns. I have not only with the consent degree. But here's what. I've learned. Nationally dickel in georgia a single individual decides whether or not a signature is a legal. So appropriate is not bipartisan. There's no group of people every county election office. A single person looks at the signature on a ballot on the envelope and decides if valid or not that to me is just not appropriate. You should have bipartisan review of counting ballots. You should have bipartisan oversight of sorting ballots. And he should have. Bipartisan signature verification. If we don't insist upon that will really sang ourselves up for a massive failure here. So what am i asking. Nothing really other than improving the system while you still have a chance to make. Sure the debbie signature. That's validated when it comes to mail in ballots is valid. They did in a bipartisan way. But people know what the hell they're doing. That's all i've ever asked anybody now. This is in the poll that insider advantage came out with and we just had matt towery just literally just broke and he asked that should sh signature should match licenses or official registration seventy percent. Yes they should match. Only nineteen percents at no and by the way the governor would wouldn't solve the issue as thirty seven percent approval rating not particularly good for him now that then impacts. He got july. I'm sorry january. Fifth runoff to senate races two senate seats and this is gonna have a hell of an impact on this country if the democrats win those two seats. Then it's fifty fifty that means the president of the senate if it's kamala harris would be tiebreaker. That wouldn't be good. That would be good in. What are we trying to do. We're trying to learn from the the election of the president. What have we learned that when it comes to validating signatures own a mail in ballots States do it differently but there no. There is no system in place to make sure. It's bipartisan stacey. Abrams is now claiming. She's got six hundred thousand absentee ballots already moving in the system. She's called for people to move into georgia from out of the state to vote Because jay law. Apparently if you come within thirty days of an election you're eligible to vote. The democrats are pulling out every stop to try to take these two seats georgia and all. I'm saying i want every republican to understand we should insist that when it comes to mail in voting that the signature be validated professionally. In a bipartisan way. Is that too much to ask so. The georgia legislature the governor of georgia. But i would urge them as to look at the system. And see if you can make it better if he can make it more secure make sure that when we vote by mail that the signature this the key to the ballot being legitimate is validated in a bipartisan fashion. When you go on election day shot you have to show an id to prove your who you are voting by mail. The only proof that you are who you are is to signature and you need a process that is professional. That is bipolar. You can't have two separate systems. And what i don't understand is why didn't they just check the signature as part of the process to make sure it matched and then doug collins told me yesterday he will. Those applications are gone. Is that true. All i can tell you. Is it if you're comparing the the things vote. I'm i'm alice. The person who applied for the ballot. Then you're checking the forger signature against the forger. You gotta have his signature on record before somebody applied for the ballot but also with the fraud takes place. But here's the way it works apparently in many places particularly georgia a melon ballot comes to county a single person by themselves. So that's good or that's not good. If they want to fill it out they have to go get another person. Look at it. But some of these counties. I guarantee you. The rejection rate is almost zero. Is it too much to ask that. If you're going to observe in a bipartisan fashion how they count the votes. Why don't you want to observe in a bipartisan fashion. How the ballot eight signatures. Bill at ballot. That is missing. That is missing all over the country and we have time to fix that. All i'm asking is that we have a system. Where republicans and democrats look at the signature together. And if there's a dispute have an appeals process put in the hands of an outside party when you were running in your just your recent brace and you had a big victory in south carolina. What are the big issues. I mean they through over one hundred million dollars against you and the likes of barbara streisand rosie. O'donnell that's nothing compared to what's now about to descend on the great state of georgia in terms of outside millions and tens of millions probably hundreds of millions of free now and and the time people vote january fifth. The the downside is it seems. The democrats are organized to already apply for their mail in ballots. The governor refuses to correct the problem. He's pretty stubborn guy. We've tried to you know get answers from him. And he's in hiding and the secretary of state obviously has no desire to do it based on what his statements are so now you're stuck with a faulty system polls that are dead even and you know the consequences potentially for the country when all said and done could be enormous well. It's beyond enormous life changing. It changes the structure trip america. We go. We go the popular vote. Pick the president which means it's small states like south carolina. Even georgia don't matter you're in california. Pick the judges. The supreme court will go nine to probably thirteen to make it liberal dc becomes the state. That's what happens if you lose both seats in georgia. We need to win seats. We got an election coming up january fifth. All i'm suggesting is that we have a system. That's bipartisan in nature. That what a ballot comes through the mail the signatures verified by both parties. Not just a single person was sole discretion to say yes or no. That to me is is not unreasonable. Allow somebody show the. Yeah on the day of the vote and say i am bob smith but i have no identification. Go in though. So what i'm trying to do is we still have time to fix this problem. I hope we have the will to fix it. S the money. David and kelly are going to be outraged bali. Ten to one. I was outrageous four to one. I've got a an account. Set up lindsey. Graham dot com. If you go to my website it will send you to the to georgia's senators so you can give to them to win read. Our backs are against the wall. We win these elections. Suppose type we can't fit and waste valuable time. We got a chance to make the system in georgia better to make it bipartisan. And if we don't do it we'll have nobody to blame ourselves. Well you really describing a dangerous scenario here and then not only that you're also going up against the holiday season and i mean you know and there's been a tough year tough election people get tired. They wanna be with their families a lot of restrictions regarding that to Which we've been talking about today. i really just wonder. Just stand back and look at this. You know do you i. I just don't know if. I have confidence in the people. That are the so-called leaders of the republican party down there they know what the hell they're even doing. Well i'm not gonna beat on people. I know what. I talked to the secretary of state about and it wasn't for him to fill out ballots. That was beyond bizarre and ridiculous. I know the guys under siege. But what. He said he says implied. Well okay i lied. I got the sense of. I mean that's very different than saying it. Well all i can say is i was talking about a system and how it works in to make sure that we have competence in. It is just not georgia's all over the place. The machines in nevada that read signatures was turned down so low. According to the trump campaign that every ballot went through how you set the system up determines the quality of the outcome. So how. 'bout this idea when it comes to verifying signatures have something. That's reliable that people will buy into make it by partisan so they can't be any doubt that one party got to pick signatures over the other. Don't leave it into the hands of a single individual is too important. You wouldn't allow in person voting to be done that way. So i'm not here to tell people georgia what to do. But i'm here to say that. What happened to george affects my life. That affects your life unless don't wake up january six and having lost these two seats because we didn't take seriously the ability to make sure people voted fairly mail in voting without signature. Verification is going to be the end of the republican party. You said this. I want you said if i mean all of this this year that last time. You said we'll never win again stacey. Abrams is trying to cook the election her way. She is game plant signing up people to vote mail in voting. She is asking people. Sounds like she's being smart to me. I'm saying why isn't why are. Why aren't the other side being smart. Stay right there. More or lindsey graham on the other side eight hundred nine four one sean flying. Do you have editorial control over the newer post at to me seems like you're the ultimate editor. Do realize that by taking down that story for you probably gave it more prominence in more visibility than it ever would have gotten. Had you left it alone. We realized that we recognize it as mistake that we made Both in terms of the intention of the of the policy and also the enforcement action of not allowing people to share it publicly or privately which is why we corrected it within twenty four hours. I glad you're with us. That was At jack jack twitter you know to what extent now the people have been making the switch over to wa parlor Is this now having on his mindset his business model and at the end of the day i just think the real antidote because we know what they did. We know what they do. We've watched us now and talked about it forever Same with facebook. All these other places just find alternatives create competition. And i know it takes effort to switch over a lender you. You said to me that you've actively changed everything over to parlor as well right and you advertising on twitter to go over the parliament. I think it my humble opinion. What needs to happen. it's very. it's a very simple thing and that. Is you know people who make decision that we are going to be a free republican. We mean it. We do not capitulate and we do not provide capital two people who wanna silence us. Listen i mean forget it you get the radical democrats and they'll be trying to shut down every conservative voice anyway. Glad you're with us news roundup information overload hour. We welcome back to the program to weigh in on this and other things. She's got an awesome book out makes a great gift It's called the cost trump china and the american revival our friend the anger of mornings with maria on our sister network the fox business network. Of course her. She's got a great show on fox news channel on the weekend which is must see sunday tv and i don't really watch any other sunday show because it's not worth watching maria borges. Romo is back with us. How are you host. Sean how are you. i'm good. You know some you're making the switch to you. See the pressure on these companies. They get this this liability protection because this post to just provide content but yet they do all the editorial and they get you know section to thirty protection which is a huge advantage for them over. Say the new york post or or any newspaper and i. I don't see that protection staying. Maybe biden would leave it there. But i don't know well that's the thing i mean you know. You don't know if you know. Potential incoming administration is going to say well you know. Maybe we don't wanna do this. Because they're major donors to our campaign. I mean i don't know what jerry nadler is gonna wanna do In you know as head of the committee judiciary committee. So you know i. It is an issue. Don't forget these guys. Twitter facebook the world this incoming. You know major people money in terms of donations. So there's that but look when this was put into the telecom act in nineteen ninety six you know this was thought of as that. These companies would be bulletin board companies. In other words everybody would put their ideas and opinions on the bulletin board. Well that's not played out. It's just not that at all in fact when you look at these companies have clearly taken aside okay. They are constantly denigrating criticizing. Donald trump president trump flagging his treats me while they've got the ayatollah khamenei from iran over there saying death to america. No problem the other day. Somebody called me nasi on twitter. It wasn't taken down. This is outrageous. You know i mean. It's just outrageous that they are able to just become the arbiters of truth. And they're not they've taken aside they are censoring information and as a freedom loving american woman that i am i will not accept censorship which is why i moved to parlor. Yeah i promote things on twitter. Fine but i'm in and i'm not going to blow off my nine hundred thousand followers. I'm there. I'm a woman of my word for that. However when i want scoops dropped. When i'm doing my sunday show that you just mentioned. Thank you for that compliment. I'm gonna drop those scoops on parlor and elsewhere away from twitter. Where i know that. I'm not getting censored. As if i'm in communist china i mean it's unbelievable and it you know so i'm reading this article and it's about you and your book by the way and we put it up on amazon dot com hannity dot com bookstores everywhere. The cost trump. China the american revival. And whatever you do just don't call you a conspiracy theorist you have been there. It hasn't been many of us. And i put you in this category of people that dug deep into the dirty. Russian meddling dossier. I'm going back to that. The media mob ignored it then. The fis application premeditated fraud all turned out to be true. None of a verifiable they knew about it early on they never did a thing about it. I have no idea what happens with durham at this point. And you know we got it right and you know all these other people in the mob and the media they got it wrong and that's right that's right and you know what it's not only that they ignored it sean. But i would say they absolutely ran with the lie and by the way they got pulitzer prizes for it. Okay look at the new york times and the washington post and they're pulitzer prizes for their headlines of donald trump colluded with russia. No a- culpas. They've been no. Hey by the way we got this wrong. Here are the facts. None of that at all. They continue talking about potential worship collusion. When we now know as the fact that it was hillary clinton's idea to tie donald trump to russia and create some kind of scandal. It's unbelievable how successful they've been. They've been incredibly successful in terms of getting the media on board and allowing the media to drive this thing forward and lie to the american people and now half of the country still. Has this idea that maybe there was collusion with russia. Meanwhile there's a real cost to that because look at all the stuff. They missed okay. This year they were impeaching president trump. What was going on in january in the world corona virus. They missed it. Nancy pelosi was dancing in the street. In san francisco's chinatown. What else was going on in january and throughout two thousand seventeen eighteen and nineteen well. They were so focused on taking president trump down china ceiling our lunch eating our lunch stealing intellectual property forcing the transfer of technologies acquiring american companies. That they can get a leg up on american companies and then eventually turn around and put those companies out of business because they forced the transfer of technology. All of this stuff has had a cost. I get a whole reporting on. How many hours the judiciary committee spent on investigating donald trump versus china briefings. It's unbelievable it. Just like to briefings on china and an eleven briefings on something to do with investigating trump. It's just the american people should be outraged. We want an accountability whereas john. Durham where is bill barr. I mean really. Nobody trusts the fbi anymore. They're gonna need some accountability ability order to get our trust back. I don't even know what i mean. Where do you go from here. What does You know biden gets these now. I'm going to bring him what james call me back. I mean. That's a frightening thought. I guess anything's a possibility. At this point you know. How can anyone argue that. That zero experience hunter with a billion five deal in china is not compromised. Just like the first lady of moscow in the russian oligarch and the kazic oligarchy. N- burri sma and all this money. How do you ever argue that. You're not compromised. Well you can't. I mean there's a list of thing with a billion dollars from the bank of china three and a half million dollars for elena the The former wife of the former mayor of of moscow eighty two thousand dollars a month working on the board of barista totaling four point two million dollars that he that he took home. I mean all and then the worst thing about it and the most outrageous egregious thing is there have been no kinda about it not even not even a scene. Never got a question about it. Not one no answers. Oh yeah my son. Does his own business. No explanation whatsoever. So what should we expect. That joe biden becomes the president and his son is going to be doing deals with companies across the world and putting money aside for the big guy. Somebody should be addressing. This where's the fbi. Listen i really. I mean how could you not be compromised. I watched all of this. I'm listening to your passion. And i'm like wow we're screwed. That's what i'm thinking. Well i just hung up with one of my sources at the doj really good has done a lot china and he sets me maria. I'm really afraid. This administration has done so much about china and pushing back on the bad behavior. If he comes in and reverse everything. America's in a bad place they are going to eat our lunch and eventually china. It's going to be the dominant country and the whole world should be worried about that. You don't want the dominant superpower being a communist country that is tracking all citizens giving you a social score at the end of the year. To tell you if you could even get on a train or not i mean it. It's very scary. I don't know. I don't know the answer sean. It's it's terrible. it's terrible. you mentioned intellectual property theft. I know because it happened to a friend of mine. Who was once the inventor of the year amazing guy lost a fortune because of it. Then you've got the china virus then you have these. Lopsided trade deals donald trump was only the ever the only president ever to get better trade deal because he asked for it. And you know. I know nobody wants to talk about it but i still look at biden. I seek week frail and struggling cognitively. That's what i see. And if i'm seeing it everybody privately tells me about it. Even democrats that means china's and russia's sees it and not exactly friendly actors on the world stage. Yeah i mean listen yesterday. I you know yesterday. He lost his train of thought. And i. it sounded like we did in the middle of it and then he just reverted to what works and that is blaming. Donald trump no one trump's the vaccine because donald trump. I mean it's just outrageous. Yeah ok well. Donald trump he did put in place operation warp speed and directed monies towards it and pushed all these companies as hard as you can push them And i by the way. We're having this big argument on this program. Because i i look at the efficacy. And i look at the ninety four point five percent success rate. And i'm like yeah i would. I would take the vaccine. Linda thinks i'm nuts. would you do it. I wouldn't take the vaccine. Sure if it weren't president trump the industry would not have mobilized so fast as it did. Don't forget one of the key things that he did. He took away red tape and bureaucracy. His main one of his main economic tools to turn the economy around was deregulation. And that's what he did at the fda to give these companies in to move forward and move forward fast and anybody who says that pfizer wasn't involved in warp speed. No first of all the administration did a a distribution deal with pfizer. Pfizer can distribute one hundred million doses. So there are. There are deals in place with pfizer as well as the other companies involved in warp speed. So he led this revolution. You would never see a vaccine within ten months of a pandemic but did this year. So what happens. You're the expert on the economy and and we've been watching you for years on television and you know wall street better than anybody. So if you implement higher taxes. Bring back the bureaucracy. Everything's gonna be free green new deal. What is the impact on the economy. Now i don't know anything about wall street last place. I want to invest as wall street. Because i don't trust wall street. I don't know it. I don't understand it. It's not my wheelhouse. So a very limited in terms of exposure but you know what what does the average person with their 401k. Thinking today well okay. Investing in When you say well see what you're doing is you're investing in american companies and and there is a great growth story to investing in american companies over the long term. Those people with four one k. Should be invested in what's called exchange traded funds. Etf that gives you the the diversity of lots of different companies in one fund and they are the lowest in terms of fees. That's number one number two. As far as the economy things have slowed down in the last couple of months. I will tell you that we we got the retail sales numbers out today. It was lower than expected the consumer even though the consumer has been strong throughout this pandemic. they've slowed down a bit in the last two months or so. So things are slowing down if you push through higher taxes very expensive government programs. You're going to see a real pullback because that is going to say no the companies to pull in their spending pulling the promotions and the higher the higher salaries for people sit on cash. You're not exactly sure of government program is just lurking around the corner. So i would expect if these things get through. We're going to see a pretty sizable selloff in stocks as well as a sizeable decline in the economy. These chew senate races in january. Georgia could not be more important. This is the only thing you've got going in terms of a wall to stop what's coming in the progressive policies that coming in but look. We're investigating election fraud right now. I don't know they found those additional ballots. in in in the recounting georgia. I if there's hang believable right two weeks later. Oh six hundred balanced. Wow this is really cool We're going to have to let you go. Listen i did read your book. I loved it. It's called the we put it up on hannity dot com on amazon dot com and in bookstores. It's called the cost trump china and the american revival. And you you know. You know business as well as just about anybody that i know Mariah carey mo- mornings with maria fox business network our weekend show on the fox news channel Thanks as always maria for being with us appreciate it congrats on the book. Have a good day twenty five till the top of the hour. Eight hundred nine. Four one sean. You want to be a part of this extravaganza. Barbara's new joys eat barbara. Hi how are you glad you called. Thanks for being with us. hi hannity. i'm so excited first. Time caller a huge fan. But i just wanted to say real quick. I was at the Mark rally in dc on saturday and a bunch of post for morris. Kenny when it was fabulous i saw so much unity there so the democrats that are saying they want unity. We have it. We haven't already we have it in our party. And they're not gonna take they wanna take that away from us and that's not going to happen and i just wanted to share. What really blew my mind was there. Were so many women. Young people african americans and Even gay and lesbian flags for for president trump and it was just amazing. The it was the greatest experience of my life. This movement of seventy. What is the final number. Now over seventy two million seventy-three million that voted for donald j trump for reelection. This is rooted in memory. What what twenty sixteen was all about the forgotten man in the forgotten women and wanting an outsider because republicans were pretty pathetically weak and and made promises and never delivered and the establishment always ramming moderation and do nothing is among down our throat and it shows that it's real and it's alive and people you know love the fight i know that The establishment figures there so offended never-trumpers by tweeting and while he doesn't have a conventional style. Wish you wouldn't say this and that you know barbara. I'ma results person honestly. I don't get offended by tweets. If i did and i i read twitter. There's enough attacks against me. That would send me into the looney bin. And frankly i even look at some of them and i laugh because they're outrageously funny and i don't care whatever switch. I'm supposed to have that would cares. Gone there is those of us that believe in liberty and freedom and capitalism and one government off our backs and lower taxes and and want opportunities and yes the words america. And i together. That's not going anywhere. i mean you know. Let's let this play out. That doesn't come out the way we want. I don't think that those seventy two three four whenever it ultimately becomes because we're not done counting two weeks two and a half weeks later. Nobody's going anywhere and what. i think. The left doesn't understand this. They're just won't take long and they are going to to. First of all implement things that are going to piss off a lot of this country and motivate people and all the things that i've tried to warn people about and others tried to warn people about will become our our reality and and i. I don't think it's going to take long before people say you know what enough is enough. It's going to happen quickly. Their policies are predictable failures. It's you don't. It's been tried and tried and tried again and again anyway. I'm glad that you have a good time. You didn't see any of the crazy people. We saw some crazy you know. We saw signs for biden supporters. They mostly stayed on the sidewalk. We did encounter some Questionable people that well we sit. God bless america. They came back with very Bad swear words. Which i won't say on the but we just walked by them and You know for the most part. We walked by the capital and the supreme court. And you couldn't even get near there and you know channel twelve news didn't even really cover it but it was a huge amount of people. We were peaceful. And you know what i noticed. We all look happy. We all where the happy people the biden supporters to pew. That i saw look miserable. So what does that tell ya. People talking about like madonna and all these crazy People after donald trump. i don't hear from from conservatives. Dairy say the things he does. Of course i wanna punch yes. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the white house idiot is the president. The guy is a fool. Come on bloom's less time an actor assassinated or president. Let's keep. Let's keep watching barbara. Thank you eight hundred. Nine four one. Sean is our number terrorism florida. Terri hi how are you. Glad you call sean. Thank you for everything you and your staff for everything that they do to keep us informed and make it truth and you take your job I see that. Cnn is for sale. And it's a failing company run by people who don't even know how to run a business. I think president trump should buy it and like he did with this country. Get rid of all the garbage staff and hire people who know how to do their job and do honestly like you and your staff do and turn that feeling network into the highest rate of one that could even surpass. Fox's numbers i look. I've i've read it is for sale. Do i know for sure. I don't i really don't have any idea you know look won't let let's just say their dream in the end is fulfilled and you have the week frail cognitive lee challenged biden if that happens but you know something then you're gonna have a president trump in exile and i don't think he's going to be too quiet about the things that are going on and and i don't think you're gonna see haydn biden in the white house. You're not going to see a lot of joe would be my prediction today. I don't think he's capable of being out there. For particularly long periods of time which by the way in of itself is scary to me. And you know everybody. Before the election of they've now they had no problem talking about reagan and eighty four and his age or mccain and his age when he ran in two thousand but you couldn't even mention joe's age and his struggling cognitive abilities I don't see him as we. I see him as weak and frail and struggling. That's what i see. And you know it'll be heightened biden trump and exile. If that happened that might be their worst nightmare. 'cause i think anything that donald trump says and does will be. We'll be making a lot of headway and you're going to see something else emerged to because the mob and the media they're gonna realize oh hating on. Donald trump actually helped our ratings Covering biden is dull as watching paint. Dry and i the the. They're going to have to defend it. They broke it. They pushed it. They own it and they're now going to be playing defense for this mad socialists. Rush that they want to drag the country through and You know so the eye. Let's let's just let it play out. Look i've been through these cycles. This isn't my first rodeo. And i've won elections that i really wanted to win and i've lost elections. I really wanted to win. And i you know it's part of a process this country you know. Mark penn had an interesting take. Is that he you know. He views the country as more center. Right than anything else you know. Maybe he's right. He had an interesting analysis. I'm not sure. I totally agree with it. But i think there is a movement that is alive and well and it's about a new coalition of republican party which is emerging and. It's you know. The democrats now cater to the coastal elites in dc new york san francisco los angeles and. I think that they knew republican coalition has been formed at a. It was born out in the election numbers and that would include the working men and women in all across this country that make america great. You know the president's policies dramatically increasing votes among african americans hispanic americans. And i think that the you know economic decline that is predictable with top down government policies and false promises. None of these things. They say they're offering is ever going to come true all right. You'll get your student. Loan forgiveness do. I get mind by the way terry. Did you have a student loan. you're gonna get your money back. I doubt it no. I still owe forty two thousand. Now see maybe you will. Maybe you get ten grand. I don't know they're just be handed printed out printing money and just handing it out. Where's that gonna come from. I mean you know. Socialists was great margaret thatcher. Said until you run out of other people's money then what do you do anyway. Good call appreciate it. Nikki is next in. South carolina nikki. Hi how are you glad you called. Hey sean i'm doing good. Thank you so much wishes coming someone to tell you the girl katie. That does your phone. She's amazing she's so everybody on my team katie and created some basic. My gosh. she's so so nice and just go. You just made her christmas bonus. Just go through the roof. All right there you go is the nicest i mean i was just so you know nikki. Katie is literally the shade of a candy cane. Right now she is. She cannot handle what you're saying. I will say thank you on her behalf. Because she's mute right. We'll just take away from linda's christmas bonus and give it to katie house. And you want to start socialism. Let's do it papa. You have a person like linda around even check. Oh good grief. I'm the mean one. You knew it nikki you know. Why am i being attacked here. What nikki. why are you getting up on his back. I hang up on you He yeah i hear you go ahead okay. Okay so. I was calling this to happen this weekend. My both my brothers or breathe. They were went from high school graduation. Stage straight to the bus. Right to camp pendleton to get our paris island to be war and my baby brother was on the second floor and iraq and took a pickaxe to the brain He got they got ambushed in his group and he took a pick ax to the brain And yeah it was. It was insane The doctors called my mom and my brother who was also served at the same time over in saluda We didn't know if he was gonna live or die. They said that he wasn't going to be able to write able to drive and he just graduated with his bachelor's so i know so it's amazing so we're military families. Just these families go to support their president at washington. Dc and knowing that police presence needs to be readily available and it is not and people were getting the crap beat out of him only because of who they support is ridiculous is this is america. We are not china no matter how many times joe biden wants to say we are not a and this is america and who you want. You support does not. It should not appear on your safety for wherever you are. And i just thought that was really crappy that they did not have the protection that they needed And i just i. My heart broke for them. And i felt bad for the people that were there that military. I'm sure that sparked. Ptsd especially being here on bill. That's just awful. Awful you know how these stories Just doesn't break your heart. It does and i just from a military family standpoint. The first thing i think of and now they're talking about lockdowns again terrified of the repercussions for our military heroes to be locked back up into the house is in there just there with whatever resources they have available to them. But i'm worried about everybody's mental health if military or not but especially military. 'cause humans aren't meant to be isolated. We're we're just. We're not god did not create us that way and i just think that it it's awful. I'm gonna tell you it really you know. Look i just want to do everything we can do to help our military and help our country. You know it's going to be we. Are you know seventy two plus million strong we cannot forget the strength in numbers and voices and principals. They don't change the cause of liberty the cause of freedom is it is ever ongoing the battle. And you know. I just i just have this attitude that you you fight you win you lose you. Don't give up. And i'm not like the democrat. I'm leaving the country. And i'm never coming back or you know having complete meltdowns like when donald trump won in two thousand sixteen disappointed. Of course too i do. I have trust and faith in our our system. I i don't. I mean you can't you don't have you have laws that say partisan observers can observe in the can observe that bothers me should bother every american. Send it out. Tens of millions of ballots randomly. Not oh nobody wanted to listen to the great dr fauci then who said yet safe to vote in person. Socially distance wear masks cetera. You know so anyway. I appreciate the call. Eight hundred off nine. four one. sean. If you wanna join us right that's gonna wrap things up today Loaded up tonight please. Dvr hannity non eastern on the fox. News channel lindsey graham the battle. That's going on in georgia the very latest on. Oh well we have more ballots showing up here there everywhere. 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691: Gardens of Branching Paths

This American Life

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691: Gardens of Branching Paths

"Support for this. American life comes from choice allergy and original podcast from charles schwab hosted by katie milkman. A behavioral scientist or in professor and author of how to change choice is a show about the psychology and economics behind our decisions here true stories from nobel laureates authors athletes. And more about. Why we do the things we do. Listen to choice allergy at schwab dot com slash podcast or wherever you listen their podcast listeners. Ira here with a quick reminder before our show starts. I mentioned this last week. I want to say it one more time. Now one of our regular producers here. Zoe chase has a brand new podcast and to doubt right now. The first two episodes were released last week. It's called the improvement association. And if you're for podcast it's just a great story. You should check it out zoe. Histories are always if you hurt. Her in. Our show deeply entertaining. This particular one is about election fraud and accusations of election fraud which as here can be just as powerful as real fraud in the damage. They can do it all unfolds in one county north carolina. Place that his small enough that the politics are very personal. The stakes into a world of people who get to know very well. It's made by the team that made serial who of course all used to work here at this american life and put it up but the new york times story that i really believe that if you visited the very first episode you will get hooked. It is that kind of story which is to say the best story. The kind that hooks you in listened to the improvement association. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Okay that's all the selling. I'm gonna do for today now. Here's today's show okay. So one of my coworkers davidov started telling me about this thing and really. I thought he was completely. I just knew there was no way it could be true. It's just completely ridiculous. And then i gotta say the more he explained the more. It slowly started to see okay. Maybe he's right in to note about david before we go any further. He has a phd in physics. Worked at fermilab on subatomic particles was on the team that discovered the top quark in this whole thing up between him and me began when he told me to download an app on my iphone. This is a little while back. Pre pandemic today shows rerun. It's called Universe splitter never it up and there's like a gray steel fake steel background and it says in white type on top of it. Universe splitter quantum induced universe bifurcation. What do i do now all right so tell me something you are having trouble making up your mind about what to do Unite recording this on december thirty first. Yeah and i've had a week off. I grew a beard. I noticed and i'm trying to decide if i should shave it off and so that's something i'm trying to decide. I have an opinion on that. But what's your opinion. actually. I think it looks pretty good right now okay. So what does this universe splitter do it lets you do both. I get creates a duplicate of this universe so that in one you get to grow the beard and then the other you shave it off. Wait we're going to do. Yeah for pretender for real. No for real. Maybe this thing. It's called the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. there are a lot of really smart physicists. Who think this is probably what's happening. So how does this work like. What do i do next all right so so there. Two boxes there. Yeah in one box. It says in one universe i will now okay. So put Shave off beard tonight on shave off beard to night okay and then the other boxes labeled in the other universe and the other one i will now put keep beard. Keep beard okay. And then what's below it. And then because there's like a button with like an atom drawn on it like an atom like you would draw it in like nineteen fifties cartoon like that's like the aesthetic of the whole thing like an old piece of scientific women. So what does it do when you push the button. So if you push the button. It sends a signal to a fancy piece of scientific equipment at the university of geneva switzerland equipment. These days can be tiny like a little box. You can hold in your hand and it does. The following takes a single particle of light. A photon it. Sends a dead. I kind of mirror that can make the photon either. Go left or right. You can make it that way like it random. It'll go either after right. Well according to the laws of quantum mechanics which governed very small things It actually goes both not that we know it actually goes left android at the same time. Okay so that's super weird great but that is actually true and demonstrated. We've known that since the twenty is okay. So then what happens. In this device in geneva yes so the device fires the photon which can go left to right and then the device looks to see. Well where did it go. And we know the particles in both places right but when the machine looks it only finds it in one place chose it went either left or right uh-huh which doesn't make sense 'cause we know from the math that the particle did go to both places. So why did we only see it in one of those places. And what's the answer. So so one of the answers is that the photon is in both places left enwright but just in different universes wait. So you're saying that when you shoot the photon into the mirror. It actually creates an entire duplicate of our universe and one of those universes. The photon is on the laughed. And the other. It is on the right. Yes it both went left and right. Those are just indifferent universes. The math of it makes a lot of the math of it is very like streamline and simple i remember like the day i saw it in class now is like oh my god. Maybe it's true. Yeah so those boxes. You feel that on the app you mean the box. I typed in Shave off tonight. And the box typed in Keep beard right right. So it'll basically choose one of those boxes. If the photon goes left and the other box the phone goes right. Okay got it. You have to do what it says. You have to keep the beard or shaved off the beard. Like tells me yeah. Yeah 'cause when you press that button you're going to get back one answer but there's going to be a duplicate universe in which there is a duplicate you sitting in a duplicate studio and duplicate me and you holding a duplicate phone in exactly the same way. The only difference is that that phone comes back with the other answer and then that version of me will do whatever it says on the phone. We know that other guy. We trust him. he's going to go do the other. okay. I think i understand all this. What's ahead juniper. -cipline push feel weird. Decided i feel weird. I know it's crazy. I feel weird. You literally just put your finger right up to the button and pulled away in fear. Split universe kisses input valid. Internet contacted geneva device. Ready photon emitted. Quantum event university just split urine the universe in which you should keep beard and right now in the other universe the us being told to shave offbeat tonight after that. I can't be and friends. New year's parties asked me about it and if the universe did in fact split the other version of me in the other universe must have had different conversations. Maybe for instance somebody gave him a great idea for show today that in that universe. Instead of airing this show in that universe you're hearing a totally different theme and david. Just we sure understand. This is a metaphor. you're saying there are scientists who really believed that a second universe gets created. Yes for sure. I mean. i think it's not most physicists. And there are some who think it's ridiculous for sure but there are some gonna take it very seriously. Okay where is this. Alternate universe that we're creating yeah. I don't even know how to think about this. But if this is true universes duplicating itself all the time. It's like a fundamental thing about existence but and program in the universe that may be duplicating itself all the time we have people who become transit by the idea of a parallel universe out there. Things are different. One of those stories things are better in the alternate world in one crucial way. Another story to parallel worlds over another woman tries to visit to go to the parallel universe. Wbz chicago americanized mirror glass. Stay with us a tough dreams of my father so emailing with fiction writer that we have on our show sometimes headquartered carrot about today's theme and he told me that his father used to spend a lot of time imagining worlds. Like we're talking about in today's program parallel worlds to ours that are almost the same as our world but not quite and he said his father did this. Starting during world war. Two his others fourteen living in poland. He's jewish when the germans invaded and started sending jews to the concentration camps during the second world war a human experience jay z. Hidden in a hole in the ground the doug for six hundred and twenty days sweden of spare time and when he was there he would imagine all kinds of things he would imagine a word in which the nazis didn't exist or in which he wasn't do on which people just in general didn't kill each other you know and this kind of thing was something that he associated with being a child then he kind of felt it interested him as a charged I'm i would probably like to back during the words. Father couldn't leave that whole for almost two years and that's headquarters was right there. Near the whole on the same property a christian farmer ins eighties would bring them food. And all that buckets of urine couldn't even talk a lot of the time at our imagines it was like two years of meditation. My father ways that he would talk about his time in the whole he would says it he he would sleep and then he would wake up with his father if the war was over and his father would say no so we would go in steep some more. This is the way he would tell it to me. I think it's kind of softcore version and was when you say a whole could they even stand up. No as he couldn't stand in it and is he cleaned. Even the i down. They had to sit in it and when the russian deliberated the town and is out z. Head to be carried out because muscles were so cramped that is by the time of the end of the words. moves them. Oh my god. So basically they're in this whole and they're sitting sitting there. Yes any you know any. It's very very cold. You know its way a beyond freezing and don't have food and and you hear voices in german and knows it. You know that you can easily be killed and you close your eyes in you. Finkel another universe at cars lots of fiction that imagines parallel worlds various kinds. And when asked him if he wanted to do something for today's show he wrote this story a true story the star twenty as a kid. When i was six years old. My dad worked to post nakba not far from one of these beaches every day. It's five thirty. In the morning he'd leave home for the pool. Swim two kilometers. Showering locker room and get to work. Wouldn't get home till nine at night. Fourteen hours a day seven days a week. Unloading boxes of soft drinks dressing toasted sandwiches bring coughing. Leeming glasses a snack bar by the beach us later. They'd always said those were the best days of his life funding remembering how so blowing in from the sea would make in his lungs. We dismiss the coffee and imported cigarettes. Used to set the bomb coffee cigarettes and the see. We're always my father's free favorite things for me. Those days were not quite as happy. When dad came back from work. I was already in bed and other than saturdays when i go to visit him at the pool with my mom. I never saw him tour. Not just was bitter about this. Seek zero. children can't treat imagine a different word for themselves was a father had more time for them. The accept reality as he tees and yet. I missed him dearly. Seeing these my mother suggested i always in every morning to the pool. Heavy swim together and take a cab to school from there. I don't remember anything of those morning swims but the car rides was dead a crystal clear. It still doc. Is we see the now. Suva visual five zero four. The windows rolled down that smoking kept one hundred and describing parallel universes that exist at this very moment in added dimensions. Universes were everything is precisely identical to ours. Same road same traffic light. Same secret in the corner of dad's mouse all except for one tiny difference and this difference dead do change every morning changing the one in the universe the different from ours she. We are in the parallel universe waking at the exact same into sections for the light to change on this universe instead of a silver visual. Where riding a dragon. And here's another one. We're under my faded sweatpants ideals which had alma to grease the water. That could fish. When i was nine getting new job. He no longer had to get up early in the morning seasonings. We all have dinner together and watch the nightly news. I was twenty two. By the time i moved out of my parent's house. But they delayed true. Visit demetri's twice a week and on saturdays. I swing dead the boo where he once worked. When i was forty free. My father was diagnosed with cancer. It was tongue cancer. Do result of fifty years of smoking by the time the doctors caught on it was attended advanced stage and so we never spoken word about it. It was obvious to us. Bos it soon. She was going to die on mondays. I take you mean for his physical therapy and as we sit in the waiting room to see. The physical therapy suites a british accent. My father's steve talked about parallel universes where everything was exactly the same as ours. Save for one difference. Say the dogs could speak or is it. People could read minds or the guy was purple and when quite clouds floated across said look tasty enough to eat at the end of every session. The physical therapist would show me how old my father zone when we work together. And what i should do case. He goes these balance on our way home. As we approached the corner of king solomon and those dead would always stop. Do you smell that. He'd say important to the new cafe the corner just by the smell of it. I can tell you. That's the best coffee in town at this stage of the town council was so advanced by father could no longer eat or drink instead. He got all his food and liquids through clear plastic tube straight to his stomach. One of these mondays after physical therapy were walking by the clinic. Fake and king solomon and those of my father instead of just posing to raise the places user suggested we actually go in for a cup of coffee dead. I said after a moment's hesitation you can't drink anything. The tumor is blocking your esophagus. I know he said beth bethany on the back but you can. We said that the corner table on the sidewalk. I owed acting in a glass of water from the pretty waitress when she asked my father what he drank. He asked for a double espresso. I stood the team fuse and he smiled and shrugged. The waitress noticed deaths guilty smile and gave me questioning luke. Not knowing what to say. I ordered an ultimate kooky through the coffee arrived. We sit in silence. I wanted to ask my father. Why do the coffee tour. And if he had anything to do with the waitress being pretty but they said nothing. Deadpool the cigarette back out of his shirt pocket and delighted to hit stowed in his glasses case and said in both down on the table. We waited a few minutes later. The waitress returned weezer older. She placed it on the table. It at the a glass of water and kooky in front of me and the deputies pursuing frontal dead matic steam rose for my coffee. I wanted to drink but doing that. In dad's face seen them for just kept staring when out of the corner of my eye. I saw my father quickly snatched w spicer of the table and guppy down. Once he was impossible. I knew it was impossible after all. I was there in the room when clergy's showed me my mother the x-ray with the tumor resting above the block to suffer like a scoop of vanilla ice cream on waffle cone. My father's she said would never drink again and he. We were sitting together on a pleasant saturday at this hipster. Coffee stirring my steaming cup of coffee and him by my side smiling after killing of his douglas person for a moment there i thought maybe we were in the universe. Abc he told me enough stories. Ever since i was a little boy deter open a hole into aching heart of our universe reach. We were sacked into a parallel one identical to our own. In every way safer one exception in dc universe may could drink and eat as much as he was not able to dine just a few months off the pipe include kofi fleet only find his windpipe and into his lungs when he got there. Dead started joke. He stood up and grabbed his throat with both hands. Dewitt wheezing noises made were riffing the sound of a man whose lungs flood with hot coffee. A bespectacled man from the table next to us leapt up and asked my father. If you needed any up. I just said there. Paralysed the pearl universe. I shared with my father. Moments ago had vanished dropping me back into a fireworks universe seconds gargling followed after which deadly in dover and cuffed up evacuating defining taryn expresses Few these lungs. When he was done he said happens. Chair as if nothing had happened. Inches away from the puddle of coffee and flam himself cigarettes people. The tables around us kept staring at team. What did they tell you. He smiled at me and excelled smoke from his nostrils. Best caffeine ten. Eric many books. Uh better dad and the rest of his family stories about like this one emotional fables that happen be true in his book the seven good years to sorry not sorry. So it's kinda groomed to say this but the moon landing story of american triumph could've in another way in some other story line from the multi-diverse neil armstrong and buzz aldrin. They land on the moon. They walk around. It's great but then there's a problem and they cannot take off to come home. That's thought this was the most dangerous moment in the mission. The most likely spot. It could fail when a president richard. Nixon speechwriters william safire actually prepared statement to be read in case. That was the way the story went at the top of the page. All caps it read in the event of moon disaster for the speech fate has ordained that the man who went to the moon to explore in peace will stay on the mood to rest in peace. Pretty good dictum obama. Has this next story about another presidential speech never delivered. That feels like it slipped into our world from a parallel universe. You can find this speech framed hanging in the guest bathroom of home in california. Here's david the speech was to be read on the night of august seventeenth nineteen ninety eight. It's the house of bob shrum. Because he wrote it. Schramm was a longtime democratic political strategist speechwriter and get her out of tight. Spots are you. Are you personally. Good at apologizing. Call i've had to apologize so many times for so many things. Sure with the most recent thing. You apologize for Having a fight with my wife about what. We were giving various people as christmas gifts. This story is about an apology. He wrote for a much bigger audience. That august nine thousand nine hundred eight schramm was on vacation in idaho. Staying with some friends and the phone rang. Why didn't have a cell phone then so somehow or other. Oh my office called me and said mark was trying to reach me. Mark is mark penn but at the time conducting polls and advising the president of the united states with the time was bill clinton. Who at the time was in a lot of hot water impeachment might very well be An option tampering with witnesses. Obstruction of justice are very very serious charges. A moment when one political party said they were very valid. High crimes and misdemeanors and the other party said that's ridiculous political posturing. Anyway there'd been stories in the press for months at this point. That clinton might have had an affair with an intern. Monica lewinsky clinton denied it though under oath in a civil and famously on television. But i want to say one thing to the american people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss lewinsky but there was the dress with clinton's dna on it and recorded phone calls between monica lewinsky in a coworker. Talking about the affair. At the time. Bob shrum got the call. President clinton was finally going to have to testify before independent counsel. Ken starr's grand jury. He would have to own up to the affair and then afterwards say something to the nation but what that was what the phone call was about. Trump called mark penn back. Who asked if you would take a shot at writing speech for the president to be delivered on tv. Just after he gave his grand jury it would be the president's chance to frame the whole thing maybe finally put it away and prevent the republicans from starting impeachment proceedings. The country would be watching. Bob trump said okay. He hung up the phone and told his wife and the couple. They're staying with on vacation. What the assignment was. One of the people said this better be good. Meaning you better do a good job. Yes So i sat at the dining room. Table And i i wrote in longhand on a yellow pad which is how i've always written by drafted it. What he wrote was a straight up. Direct apology do you have it there with you i. It's on it's on. Well actually i can go get it even hold on for a second. Trump went to go get it from where it was hanging in what he calls the guest powder room and to be clear. There's other political memorabilia in there. It's a speech he's proud of. Can you read the speech for me. It's not very long. So i will my fellow americans. No one who is not in my position can understand fully the remorse. I feel today since. I was very young. I have had a profound reverence for this office. I hold. I've been honored that you the people have entrusted to me. I am proud of what we have accomplished together. But in this case. I have fallen short of what you should expect from a president. I have failed my own religious faith and values. I have let too many people down. I take full responsibility for my actions for hurting my wife and daughter for hurting monica lewinsky in her family for hurting friends and staff and for hurting the country i love. None of this ever should have happened. And he has clinton apologizing for leading people about the affair and this is how it ends. Finally i also want to apologize to all of you. My fellow citizens. I hope that you can find in your heart to accept my apology. I pledge to you that i will make every effort of mind and spirit to earn your confidence again to be worthy of this office and to finish the work on which we have made such remarkable progress in the past six years. God bless you and good night raw has reading that i i remember writing it. I thought it was the right thing for him to say. And when i hear it now i still think it's the right thing for him to say it's notable that trump had the president apologizing to monica lewinsky in her family at the time. Charles rangel the democratic congressman from new york called her quote a young tramp. She was the subject of jokes on late night. Television bill maher said. I think monica lewinsky is the one who should apologize to america. No one seemed to be thinking about her as a person whose life was now a wreck. Schramm was well. She was an intern kid in the white house And i thought that that made every bit of sense in the world shrum sent the speech into the white house and then the day arrived. Clinton gave his grand jury testimony which was not broadcast. Met evening. The president went on tv to give his speech. Shrum sat down with the rest of the country to watch it. We're just sitting around in the living room watching it on television and at that point any thinking maybe he's gonna read my speech. Sure i thought he. I thought he might very well Bill clinton who i worked with on like state of the union message is never exactly reads. What you send him so. I didn't anticipate that. It would be necessarily word for word what i had said. But i thought it might be. Pretty close to it It was almost diametrically the opposite good evening this afternoon in this room from this chair. I testified before the office of independent counsel and the grand jury. I answered their questions truthfully including questions about my private life questions. No american citizen would ever want to answer. I not only remember hearing the first words. But i remember the look on his face He was really really angry. It's the private bill clinton who could get angry. And i have seen him angry but i don't think the country had seen him angry very often as you know in a deposition in january. I was asked questions about my relationship with monica lewinsky while my answers were legally accurate. I did not volunteer information. Indeed i did have a relationship with miss lewinsky. That was not appropriate. In fact it was wrong. It constituted a critical apps in judgment a personal failure on my part for which i am solely incompletely responsible. There are moments of apology in there. And what feel like honest reflection like when he straight up admits the reasons. He had been so evasive. Until then i can only tell you. I was motivated by many factors. I by desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct but the overall message is not. I'm sorry i screwed up. He seems to be saying but the real problem is the fact that i'm having to talk about this at all. It's a private family matter. It's nobody's business but hours even presidents have private lives. He closes mount by asking for forgiveness as trauma advised by asking people. Stop talking and so tonight. I ask you to turn away from the spectacle of the past seven months to repair the fabric of our national discourse into a turn our attention to all the challenges and all the promise of the next american century. Thank you for watching goodnight. What do you think would happen. If he'd instead that night he'd taken out your speech and read. I think it would have lessened the chances that he would have been impeached really. I don't know that it would have prevented the impeachment. But i think it would have lessened the chances it's possible. His speech gets you to the same ending just with a slightly different plot after all there is a lot of momentum in congress toward impeachment. But it's nice to contemplate a world where the leader of your country can stand up and acknowledged having made a mistake can acknowledge reality. An apology really is about the truth laying it out so we can all live in the same world together. Clinton seem closer to it at that moment but he's still couldn't do it. I i wonder if all the possible universes in how many of them does clinton say sorry. You know not. I'm sorry for what happened. Or i'm sorry if people feel but really like i'm sorry there may be a universe in which he did that. I'm just not aware of it. Because i don't live in it. Yeah that's not the one we livin. You want to know what i think. I think it's possible. There is no universe in which president clinton reads bob shrum speech listening to the speech. Clinton did give. I kind of think he gives every possible universe. It was exactly how he felt and the speech that you wrote while great was not at all how he was feeling at the moment. I i obviously the speech that the that i drafted did not reflect how he felt coming out of the grand jury in that sense. Can you fault them. I just think you want wanna do what fits the moment you want to be true to yourself. The problem was that. I think he was true to the angry guy who has just come out of the room. You know he. He was maybe not true to the person he was the next day. There are the us in all the parallel worlds. But also the you on thursday and the one on friday was who's had some time to think and some sleep sandwich for sure. Those are different people castonbound and some other university skate of physicists. Terrell of life in this one he senior editor of our program. Bill clinton by the way later wrote about this address to the nation that night in his biography mentioned trump's draft of the speech. But it does say the most of his advisors at counseling to simply admit that he had made an awful mistake not to go out swinging did anyway of course weeks after that speech he backtracked in front of a smaller audience at a prayer breakfast with religious leaders. He took a different tone there. He said i agree with those who have said that in my first statement after i testified i was not contrite enough much closer to what trauma written included an apology to monica lewinsky and her family owned coming up. Where they you living in a parallel universe where some very basic facts about your own life have been altered that's in a minute chicago public radio when our program continues support for this american life comes from squarespace. You have a story to tell whether it's about starting a business or sharing photos. 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Today's program gardens of branching paths stories of parallel worlds. And people will get fixated on the way things could be in those other worlds. Today show is broadcast last year. In the first half of today's show we had people imagining other better world in this. Half we have people pondering the alternate worlds at are right here around us all the time in this world. We've arrived at three of our show at three square crossed brothers. So if you think about it. Being on identical twin is kind of a parallel world situation. You know you have this other version of yourself stuck in the same world as you stuck in the same house as you. You see somebody who's just like you running around doing things that you might not do didn't ship is has this next story about a mother. Her twins and forty eight year old mystery. And that's clark had a lot going on. In the winter of seventy two in january. She delivered twin boys. Jason i followed by randy five minutes later weighing five pounds two ounces randy to spend the first of life an incubator they lived in suburban saint louis and has been dick had a job at a paper company called tension envelope. He worked long hours traveled a lot and that was often at home alone. Caring for two infants feeding them changing diapers and making sure she didn't lose track of which one was which because they look exactly alike. Were you always scared that you might mix them up like from the day they were born. Was that a a real fear. I tried to be really careful about knowing who either had outfit they were on. I knew i was really careful about it so usually had outfits we and different colors blue jay and read randy red and then i didn't think about it too much once. I knew it was okay. That's all we did it. That's a good system. I mean i think. I did feed them twice. The didn't feed the other one. You didn't ask sitting. there was crying alumni. Go why is he crying so wet a she even had a backup a creative redundancy. She built into the safety plan for their identities and that was diaper pens she is blue diaper pins for jason and yellow ones for randy. Everything went smoothly for a while and then at six weeks. They had their first checkup annette. Net dress them in the same outfit. A fancy number their aunt los angeles had sent them but underneath the close the diaper system was up and running at the doctor's office. A nurse took the babies out of the room and at carolina remember. Why maybe she needed to weigh them and a few minutes later the nurse came back in with the boys. Then she goes. Oh we have such a great surprise for you. Now we have pampers. We're just using of the first time so instead of using your diapers we used your pampers. And then they gave me a little all four of their tins. The nurse had changed the babies out of their cloth diapers and put them into disposable ones foiling the system entirely she hinted in a little bag with diaper pins in it. The boys were completely indistinguishable. I was very upset. So they go. You're gonna be fine you're fine. Of course they go. You're fine and we got in the car. And i was so upset all way home when she got home. A net put the baby on the couch and stared at them at six weeks old. Didn't have distinct personalities yet. They weighed the same amount. They had the same bald heads. No birthmarks and i'm not kidding you. They looked exactly. Like and so. I was thinking i was really terrible. Mother than how. Can i really look at this and not see my own children and not know which ones they are you know. She called me and panic and She just said i. I don't know what i'm gonna do. I don't know which ones which. I don't know what to do this. That's best friend. linda. Wallace atlanta is jason randy. No her she lived in the subdivision. Did you go over there to try to help her. She couldn't tell them apart. How would i be able to tell them apart right. I mean there. I didn't i couldn't tell them apart. Now know they. She had the pens. Yeah were you nervous to tell to tell dick renervous to tell ya. Yes was really nervous so when he came home when he came home and he saw them and they were in their crib and so finally. I had to tell them i go. I have to tell you what happened. And i told him and he goes really he goes. Oh we'll figure it out. Let's see in then. We were both lookie about them right next to each other and of course they had the pampers on and nothing. And he's going. I don't know what do you think it is know. And that was faced with the decision she had to choose. Which baby was jason and which one was randy. She had nothing to go on but a maternal feeling so she chose take agreed with her. I really always felt like. I had the right person in my heart. I just said it is. And i'm not going to think about it anymore. And this is my life. We know who they are and that it is they are and we're not going to talk about it anymore. Atlanta not so convinced. Do you think she got it right. Do you think you know what i mean. I don't think she no. She says she did. does she know i mean. There's no way that they were so they look so much alike. And so i'm not sure. A and and randy forty eight years old now. They're comedians. they worked together. They've done cameos on different tv. Shows like curb your enthusiasm and better call saul and they still look exactly the same randy. Can you describe what decent looks like. He's very good looking Jason he's he is very semitic looking. He's got glasses. He's about five foot eight and a half. that's generous somewhat athletic looking less generous. They found out about their potentially swapped identities when they were about twelve years old by accident. They're spending a summer weekend at the world famous lake of the ozarks in central missouri with their mom and aunt linda and her two sons. The boys were playing well. net net. Linda talked amongst themselves. The story of the calamitous doctor's visit came up and unbeknownst to them. Jason and randy were earshot and they overheard the whole thing and we were just. We hated the story. Mrs jason he sounds remarkably like randy. We were livid that this could have happened and also that she was sharing it in sort of an off hand joking way and linda wallace. Who is a funny woman was making it funnier and they were laughing about it. We're like we were just very embarrassed by it and upset by it. Like oh my god. This is an insane thing to hear because we may not be who we are. What pissed off about it. What was so upsetting about it. I think that it just was. We were just sensitive. I think to being confused and again it was this narrative that kind of went through our lives as we wanted to be individuals and we wanted to be seen as individuals. And then. here's this thing that happened where we could be so easily confused for identical twins to people who are constantly being mistaken for one. Another who try really hard to make it clear that they're unique individuals. This was a big deal. Randy was the most upset. Because why can't you go to the to the policemen. I think randy really wanted me to go there. You were talking all the way to the card not that an actual crime had been committed a crime against dignity but for some reason randy figured the police were the ones who could sort it out but annette did not go to the police and the name confusion did not get sorted out. It remained a mystery. And jason and randy's lives a couple times the was brought up throughout their years. If somebody said something about it they would go. I don't wanna hear about it. Don't bring it up again. I had no idea it was that data painful for them. I mean it was. It was a joke between net night. But i'm not sure what the joke between all of us because they were very sensitive about it just the simple fact of the matter that for countless times in our lives. Someone has said to me. Jason and i'm like no i'm randy right. You know like that. That's happened so many times in my life. If that's not true there is going to go back to every single. But there's there's the notion that like you've been living a little bit of ally. It's a tiny live. But it's not your line. It's not your fault but still that is that's unsettling in a weird way to me. That's just weird that for all this time. I had it wrong if they were switched. And they have to reimagine something that so foundational. Nobody ever thinks about it their birth. Who's older who was in the incubator. Like randy says it's weird doesn't really make a difference but also somehow does and not knowing what the truth says that's even more irving it turns out. There was one way to figure it out sometime around. The age of forty randy can't remember. Exactly what the topic of their potentially swapped identities came up and they were like. Why don't we figured this out yet. They're grown us adults. They should know who they actually were and also they were working comedians at that point and they thought it might be good material much. We'll see randy thought. Maybe the hospital where they were born would have a copy of their baby fingerprints. Get those and compare them to their dealt fingerprints. He wasn't wrong about the science part of that. Identical twins have nearly the same. Dna so they're fingerprint. Patterns are very similar closer than anyone else's as you probably know. Fingerprints are made up of lines. And some of those lines have tiny variations like forks or loops and those markings are different between identical twins. For those of you still listening the reason for that. Is that the markings developed based on the conditions in the womb like pressure which is different depending on where the baby is in the womb. So randy called the hospital where they were born to see if they still had a copy of their fingerprints. The hospital told them that they throw records out. After thirty years they were old and out of luck. Until i was back home last summer with my family. This is randy. And i was digging through just looking at stuff in saint louis and saint. Louis i was back childhood home that we lived in since we were four years. Old and i found from the hospital are footprints. I they were in a book of the next year bags in my bed. There was like a nightstand thing. That was like a chess that you could open up and it was just in the bottom of that. I couldn't believe it. And i'd never seen it there before and i thought okay this is we could find out it became more real real in. The possibility was rekindled if they can find someone to compare their adult footprints to their baby footprints. Maybe they could put this mystery to bed. Once and for all his luck would have it. There was just such a person in buena park california about twenty five miles from los angeles. Where jason and randy outlive a forensic identification specialist by the name of kurt. Kuehne but kurt said there was no way he could use a baby footprint from a hospital. Those aren't made for identification purposes. They're made because baby feeder freaking cute mementos and they usually don't have much detail in june. Jason sent kurt the footprints anyway just to check. And when kurt saw them he confirmed that they were mostly just unusable smudges of ink but miraculously there was a half inch spot on the fall of the left jason foot. That had nice clear lines. He shouldn't have any problem making the identification he just needed jason and randy's adult feet faced with the imminent revelation of their true identities jason and were forced to think through what they would actually do if they'd been switched. Babies which was be honest is not a long list of considerations. Do you think you'd swap names road. We legally change. Our names are if you are swapped. Then you're kind of like committing fraud. All the time right now. I guess unintentional fry. Yeah you're well. I'm i would be using his social security number right you know. How does that affect everything we do. I wonder if it does. I mean maybe it only matters if like one of you commits murder barefoot and then runs through wet cement or something right maybe practically. It doesn't actually matter without you can't do that now. Thanks a lot. Maybe it doesn't matter. I'm probably right about that. Except there's one person who jason was legitimately worried about their mom net who very close with their father died in two thousand nine and that's had two strokes in recent years. They're protective of her. What does she got it wrong. All those years ago would feel bad for parma. Yes more about. That would feel like maybe she would be embarrassed or maybe she would feel like she should have spoken up and may be found out away in that moment to get our footprints and just dispel it and figure it out and that however was not concerned. I just have a feeling. That's all my feeling my definite feeling that. I know who's who i know you are. I'm the mother. I know what if it is. It's different. you want me to change my name. What if i became jason. Jason became me. Then you have different girlfriends. Lives a few days before thanksgiving. I flew to l. a. And met randy jason and annette at randy's house were spending the holiday. We left her at home with their grandchildren and headed down the five towards buena park and hopefully resolutions randy said he was feeling remarkably zen. But jason. i feel more nervous today than than ever before about this. Like i think when we got into this i was like oh this is going to be so interesting and fascinating but i really want my mom to be right like i want to be me. I don't know. I just woke up this morning saying god. I hope my mom was right. We turned off. The highway drove through the gates of kurt subdivision and pulled up to a house with a winnebago out. Front garage. Door was halfway down and behind it. We could see a pair of white legs that ended in a sock tan flip. Flops kurt the garage door lifted to reveal kurt. A tall man with a full moustache and a voice like a cartoon bear coming into the garage. Get on in front porch. Let me get rid of the trash. Take we stepped into. Kurt's room met his wife and granddaughter. We made an impressive amount of small. Talk about thanksgiving winnebago's hunting. We'll have you ever been into birdshot while eating. Show twenty five and a half years working as a forensic identification specialist for the beverly hills in los angeles police departments. He shows his jason and randy's baby footprints he'd had them locked in his safe for five months. Those they're so cute. It's time to take their adult footprints. She get rid of a left shoe and sock. Randy goes i. He puts his naked foot up on. Kurt's need kurt takes a special pad and presses it against his foot. Then he repeats the process with jason. And that's it. We send them out the door to walk around the neighborhood. Kirk figures out. Who's actually jason. And who is actually randy. We go upstairs to his office where he scans footprints and then pull them up on his computer screen. He lurches the baby one onscreen because his and stares at the lines comparing it to the adult footprint after just twenty minutes. He's done a tex jason and tell them to come back to the house. Welcome back thank you. Kurt system back down on the couch and proceeds with the line of questioning. I had not anticipated. My first question. Is how many other babies were in the doctor's office at day. I've no idea. Kurt who's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet by the way screwing with okay. Let's hear don't give suspense so he tells them. Wow oh my oh. My god scared rebels. Contributing thank you. We'll be in touch soon okay No i'm not going to tell you the results yet. On the drive vector house their family calls first. Randy's wife amy who asks them not. How're you but who are you then. Randy's daughter georgia calls with her sister. Decent kids in the background. I'm gonna reveal it when i get home. Molly we're home. Come on and we walk back into the kitchen. We left a few hours before and that is there with her. Four grandchildren jason. Randy's aunt and uncle are there to an english bulldog named brian. We gather around the kitchen island jason's five year old daughter. Noah clings to him. Everyone's excited little nervous. Okay so how's everyone feeling. We got the results and we found out that. I mean uncle jason house actually four great have to think about it. But that's what i thought. I feel lake. What does it make. You feel like you got my heart. It felt like that's who you were. I just went your mother and now excited. I wish i wish i happy. So did our footprint. I know she's this smile a day later. Randy got aunt lend on the phone and told her the good news. So that means mom and dad were right. Fifty fifty camps. That's right thank you. Linda love you. I love you so all is well in the sklar family. Jason is still older than randy by five minutes. Randy is still the one who spent time in an incubator they haven't been committing unintentional fraud. They don't have to change your social security numbers. The world and net said they were living in was indeed the world they were in all along Chavis is one of the producers of our. Shell four if i lived here. I'd be home now so story. Today is about somebody who tries to visit a parallel world when the lived in herself. Diane who explains the universe. Emily ended up in. Was like a postcard. For old-timey america ten acres in vermont with five big brothers and sisters eating candy out of glass jars at the family. General store yeah. We just lived in this big house and my parents were really strict straight. I always like they always reminded me of the von trapp family. Even though that's like really extreme a lot of a lot lot of rosa was very much. Do as i say. She almost lived a totally different life. Emily was adopted from south korea when she was a baby. She's forty now as a kid. She rarely thought about the world. She came from when her life would have been like there. It was the eighties. That kind of thing wasn't especially encouraged. Her family raised her not to ask many questions about her past but there was one thing she really wanted to know about it. I mean mostly growing up. I just really wondered what my birth mother look like That was usually the question that always came to my mind. Her parents didn't lock laker. They were white as most everybody else in town so it was hard for her to picture her birth mother's face but there was no one to ask a couple of decades later. Emily became a mother herself and suddenly felt connected to in curious about her birth mother again. She started researching how to contact her and too long areas later finally got in touch then decided to go on a trip to south korea to meet her birth mother a trip that would allow her to tunnel between the universe that was into the universe that might have been she recorded parts of it for podcast called. Motherhood sessions olive. Emily's emotions about the trip hit on the way to the airport in new york when suddenly she found herself sobbing while talking to the cabdriver family in a meeting on meeting my birth mother for the first time. This is exciting for you about you but a birth monday. I searched for her through the adoption agency. It took two years Two years of searching. Oh that's good. That's and what were your dad. You don't know woke. Madonna devoted anything. It should be breath. Everything is the vetted blessing for you. You you're going to meet your mother. I know. I know you're feeling because you spend your whole lag dog. Mom i know you spend your whole life your mom. You need your mom on venue on the likely you'll babies you know going on the plane to for me. It was kind of thinking about the last time i took. That flight was when i was a baby and touching down. I remember thinking that the last time. I was here when i was five months old. She had a day to settle in before she met her birth mother. It was the first time she'd ever been to asia and wandering around seoul. It was so easy to imagine the other versions of her life. All around her. I go in stores or restaurants in in i think oh could i be that woman behind the counter. Working there When i see a mom with her curl ivy like oh is that would have been like to walk down the street holding a my mom's hand on her second day in korea. Emily carefully did her hair and makeup and headed to the adoption agency to meet her birth mother. Their reunion happened in a worn down meeting room in front of a bulletin board pinned with christmas cards. I see this short. Korean woman walk in the door. And you know we hug and i cry and she says me on heo which means i'm sorry. It's the very first thing her birth mother says to her and say concern which means it's okay looking the social worker in the room. Translating for them and his birth mother told her story she'd gotten pregnant as a teenager which was completely shot and there was no place in society for teenage single mothers. A few days after emily was born and a relative came by with a police officer and social worker and they took me away a week later. Emily's birth mother went to the police station desperate to get her baby back. They told her it was too late. She called the adoption agency several times over the years to check in on her daughter learn. She'd been adopted by an american family. I talked with her on the phone. And when i asked her if she'd ever imagined the world she did manage to get emily back she told me. I haven't really had those thoughts. But i always dreamt about her seeing her birth mother's face meeting her whole extended family later on that trip. It had a profound impact on emily. I heard her talk about it on that. Podcast motherhood sessions. And i was surprised and moved to hear her. Say that being in the same room with her birth family for the first time. I felt pretty. You know growing up. You know you your parents always tell you that you're pretty you whatever but i never really believed it But like being around family and we all look like you know i fell. I felt like i was beautiful. And i had never felt it deeply before. Where do you think is behind that feeling. Because you know after growing up living a lifetime of feeling like you don't fit in and wondering is maybe certain guys don't like you or you know why you don't you know maybe you're not like the most popular person in school and now for the first time in my life. I felt like. I made sense. Like i felt like my being made sense. I felt like my face made sense. I'm only stayed with her. Birth family for three days in a town called dongguan in a little house by the railroad tracks their ceramic pots of kimchi in the yard. A flat screen. Tv in the living room that was always playing. Korean variety shows and soap operas. Lots of visitors came by to welcome. Emily it felt warm familiar on the first night. I'm lee was getting ready for bed. And her birth mother came in and presented her with four boxes containing gold jewellery for emily her kids and her husband. Emily accepted them hesitantly then using a translation app. Her birth mother told her she said korean mothers leap with their children. And i'm like. Oh god here we go. Emily had heard about this that. It's not unusual for korean parents to sleep in the same room as their kids. Even when they're adults in this room there is only one bed. She tried to explain to her birth mother. Sorry but i prefer to sleep alone. It wasn't clicking. Emily ended up calling an interpreter. She'd hired who already gone home for the day and so i called her and asked her to explain. You know that. I couldn't do it And so she she did but you could see that my birth mother was pissed and not really happy about it She had years and years of of my life. I can understand you know why she wanna sleep in the same with me. But i just couldn't do it. A lot of the time with her. Birth mother was like this as a visitor. It was impossible to fit incompletely she was a stranger and family all at the same time dropping into place. That really felt like it could be home. But it wasn't diane. Wu is our shows. Deputy managing editor podcast motherhood sessions. Where we i heard only story is show about women and moms in of crisis and change. It's available wherever you get your podcasts. Alternate universe days only get better now that a cloud in the deep blue sky and i'm so long program was produced today by david. Customer people were made today show included on the baker. Susan burton bencun d. and it. Chivas sean cole. 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TYT Extended Clip - December 1st, 2019

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The White House continues to complain about the so called unfair process of the impeachment investigation. They feel that they've been left out of the hearings that they haven't given They haven't been given the proper opportunity to defend themselves however in yet another opportunity to defend themselves the trump administration has said that they will not participate in the house judiciary. Committee's hearing on the impeachment this week week now it would be very helpful for trump to participate in this or at least have his lawyers participate but he explains why he refuses to do so in this next clip. Take a look. What does your lawyer represent your view finish? The whole thing is a hope everybody knows all you have to do is looking towards the president that he just issues and you know the hope this great country so he claims it's a hoax His Council Pat Scipio Ni also claims that this is all a hoax. Of course we've all now heard from numerous Trump administration Russian officials who have said that he did withhold that military funding to Ukraine in order to Pressure the Ukrainian government to dig up dirt on his political rival Joe Biden I mean these are not progressives. These are not lefties. These are people in some cases who donated a lot of money to donald trump. And then later in this impeachment investigation testified against him. Because the truth is the truth. And it's GonNa come out sooner or later. So Gordon Sunland Sunland was the one who turned on trump eventually so jank jumping yes so first of all of course Ukraine president say that he had an interview with the number of European outlets where he said look of course it wasn't a quid pro quo. Because I wouldn't do that and you know I wouldn't want to beg on behalf. The Ukraine said on the other hand it is not good to hold up our aid and to go around calling us corrupt because that reduces investment in our country and we need did that aid to protect ourselves from Russia in other words. He's saying look I'm not I'm telling you right now. I desperately need America so I can't tell you right now. While trump was an office that it was a quid pro quo. But I need that aid. I needed it before I needed for the next time around. So I'm being cleared. I could possibly be that. It was not a good good thing to hold up our eight so Trump's characterization was less he said of course totally and utterly wrong as usual and look. I'm I'm now exhausted at this point dealing with Republican lies and normally I have fun with it and you know we spike him on a daily basis. This is stupid this is not true etc but this impeachment is both trump and the entire Republican party. wall-to-wall lie take everything you see and turn it upside down so him saying like Oh we know they're not giving me a shot. You can go you right there. You're the president. You say you're not they're not being fair to you. You can go testify so you say hey look. I don't want to testify. Because when pathological liar and they'll get me on a thousand things I say wrong our point is exactly secondly your lawyers can go. You've got all of the Republican Congressmen are in the hearings. Plus your lawyers plus you you on. He Says No. I'm not going to send I'm macos go and I'm not going to send my lawyers either. Well then you're going to have to drink and talk Lhasa. Shut up juice because this is over the top bear but nonetheless what are they come out with their talking. It wasn't a hoax. I don't believe the frustrating part of this story is not that. Republicans are lying in an effort effort to cover up for trump or make excuses for trump or defend trump. The frustrating part is no one ever goes back to the heart of the story which which is Republican lawmakers who went directly to Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell and said. We don't know what to do. We CAN'T DEFEND DONALD TRUMP on the substance. So how do we defend him and Mitch. McConnell said focus on the process. And that's what they've done and they're gonNA keep doing it. They're gonNA keep pretending as if this is some some sort of unfair process even though there's absolutely no indication that it's unfair and the trump administration has been asked to participate in this over and over again so so there was a five page letter sent to Adam Schiff by Patsy Leoni. That's the White House counsel and he wrote the following. We cannot fairly be expected to participate in a hearing and while the witnesses are yet to be named and while it remains unclear whether the judiciary committee will afford the president a fair process through additional hearings hearings. Okay let me break down guys so they do have a fair process through these years. He's like but if they're going to be digital hearings that no one knows about we don't. I don't know if you're going to have what process you're applied to unknown. Here's well I guess you could use that excuse to get out of any hearing ever because there might later be other hearings and you don't know the process of hearings that have not been named wh what a terrible terrible excuse and all the witnesses named. That's not how hearings work so sometimes witness called us some of them are named and then later other witnesses are called is sometimes based on the testimony given so you couldn't possibly name every a single witness by the way the Republicans might be able to call witnesses and they're going to have to see which weaknesses are allowed and not allowed so by definition. You can't have all the witnesses right now. He knows ZAC but the point isn't to be legally correct. The point is just to have a fig leaf for trump supporters who go. Oh yeah that's right. We're the victims. It's been totally unfair. It is yeah. It's it's beyond frustrating but one other thing is look this house. Judiciary Committee hearing is incredibly important. Morten right so if trump had any interest in really defending himself he would want to be part of it he would want at least his lawyers to be there because the whole purpose of it is to look at the evidence at hand determine whether or not there is enough evidence to You know draft the articles of impeachment. And so you would want to have a voice in that process if you're truly innocent and you truly want to defend yourself that's what this is all about. And he's refusing to participate because he knows he's guilty and then he pretends pretends as though he cares about the NATO summit. That's happening this week. Remember trump notoriously despises. NATO thinks that's nonsense and goes after our NATO allies all the time but here he is claiming that you know the NATO summit this week is incredibly important. He can't be distracted by the impeachment investigation. Democrats radical leftist demographics. The do nothing. Democrats decided what I'm going to NATO this bruce set up a year ago when I'm going to NATO. That was the exact time one of the the most important. Juries make his president for them to be doing this and putting in front of the day. Both Wichita Sir. So there you go. He's pretending like oh it's we don't have to be there. White House counsel can be there White House counsel can defend you. I mean that's it's usually what would happen anyway. But he just doesn't want to take part in this. They want to pretend as though this is the de legitimate process illegitimate process so in the judiciary committee. They're trying to determine. His Anna was alluding to what are the different articles of impeachment. Do we have enough evidence for showing that not only the things happen but that they were a high crime or misdemeanor or perhaps and other violation of the constitution. So there is no earthly reason. Why you wouldn't send your lawyer there if if I was charged with things I didn't do and we're going to determine what the charges are what I send my lawyer? Of course everybody would send their lawyer unless they know they have no legal grounds to stand on and they factual grounds to stand on. So only they're going to hang their hat on is not fair which is what. Donald Trump probably cried whose daddy Adia Thousand Times as his daddy spanked him after giving him another bailout after another bankruptcy right so and trump's back to that like an unappointed. Yeah you really worried about NATO. You've been trying to basically dismember NATO from the day that you got in. Thanks to your orders from your boss a lot Amir Putin wooden said normally when you go to Europe those are really important because usually those are meetings that are not just NATO but are a larger group at that include Putin. And that's where you get orders and that's where you rip up the transcripts of your dial with Putin or don't allow American translators. That is the most important thing you do. You get your orders from your boss normally when you go over to Europe but in this case this is just NATO the people you don't like our allies so this whole thing like Oh my God. I'm busy working irking. Oh please you know what he did over the weekend is one of my favorite things. So somebody Reporter predicted that. He'd spent all Thanksgiving tweeting now as it turns out he went to go. See the troops in Afghanistan great. I'm glad he did that. That's a good move politically but it's a good thing to do overall okay. So then. Donald trump junior tweets up us. I see dead. Did tweet on Thanksgiving or so rug. Fake does and before say savings up Donnie. He's just too stupid and can't stand. It tweeted tweeted about. Oh God there's no end to his stupidity that's that's the president right so you're too busy please. Nobody believes that. Not Not a single person in America or the world believes that we are going to need on. What are you GONNA do? You'RE GONNA tweet over there about some all hoax folks which are so guilty guilty guilty guilty. It's beyond any reasonable doubt. And so the fact that they're not even showing up shows you do they know they have absolutely no case exactly and it is funny because Just today House Republicans Released a report a one hundred under twenty three page report defending Donald Trump claiming that the Democrats have absolutely no evidence indicating the Donald Trump is guilty of high crimes or misdemeanors owners including Bribery and extortion. Even though there are text message exchanges even though there are members of trump's own administration testifying against him You have members of the intelligence community. You have Various ambassadors you're chiming in on this and sharing their perspective and their evidence on it there is is an abundance of evidence against Donald Trump. He is unable to defend himself. Republicans are really unable to defend him when it comes to the substance they just focus on. How unfair the process supposedly is? And that's it that's all it is well one last thing five. Some friends. This morning is back to well. If the last set of hearings were boring these are going to be even more boring. aureus lawyers talking about what's legal and not legal slows fast. What are what? Are you guys like this. So if your best argument is you might be right and the president we support is a criminal on the other hand. The way you're presenting evidence against him is boring. Is that an on the other hand so I feel like every day we come on the show. We have a debate with people. Keep telling us that the grass is not green. It's purple and we have to just like genuinely go okay. Here's a size behind. Why Grasses Green and not purple and every day they come on they're like no digresses being so unfair to us? You know out science so we will not send neuroscientist this but we demand that you call it purple or at least even so. That's just not how it works. He's wrong in every way shape and form Look on the one hand I I want them to go into more charges against them. -struction of Justice on Russia case The campaign finance violations on the hush money on the other hand I I just want to wrap it up because I'm so sick of the Republican lies that we have to knock down every single day that have zero percent merit. This is not a conversation. Retain rational actors anymore they're illegitimate and purposely lying actors and it's not just trump. It is now the entire Republican Republican Party. I mean they own it. They enable criminality. That's what they did. It's a criminal supporting enterprise. The National Republican Party. No answer talks about it. Well what is a strategy that Donald trump is using to defend himself. This is fascinating because it involves the Clintons so donald trump his modeling himself after Bill Clinton even though he claims to dislike the Clintons he claims to be anti establishment very different from the Clintons. He's actually we've been working with individuals who aided Bill Clinton during his impeachment investigation and so what is trump exactly doing with the evidence but instead or the advice he's been given well he's appearing to be busy right and he's pushing out this message that while Democrats are wasting getting their time and resources focusing on the impeachment investigation. He's out there working for the average American and he's working hard in fact he shared that perspective you've during his recent rally in Florida. Take a look everybody's getting rich and I'm working my ass off but while we're ear creating jobs and killing his and taking care of border it's really setting records now you see what's going on and the wall is happening. It's getting built rapidly. And that's a real wall. The radical left Democrats are trying to rip our nation apart and now the same. Maniacs are pushing the deranged impeach you think of this impeachment impeachment so over the weekend he went to visit troops in Afghanistan. And he doesn't usually do stuff like that right. Usually he's golfing or he's enjoying himself. He doesn't really care too much about visiting troops at all But he visited the troops and this is part of his strategy to appear as though he's busy he's looking out for the average American Eric. He's looking out for the troops well. Democrats hyper focused on the impeachment. Investigation the fact of the matter is Democratic lawmakers have passed many bills is that have stalled in the Senate because Mitch McConnell won't even bring it up for a vote And Donald Trump would of course a veto anything that Democrats are in favour of so. They're not do nothing Democrats. They've been working hard trying to push for policies that actually matter. What trump is doing is all political theater so I on the the rally tape. Okay I I. I can't help myself going to create three lies and he said in there he said We're killing towers talking about. You're the one who instituted tariffs. It's the exact opposite of killing tariffs it makes no sense at all. Ah Tariffs Today. Yeah and so. Then he's like and we were sending records on the border. Well that's partly true Record number of people coming in so oh for at least over a decade so he cracked down on immigrants for two to three years and what happened was sometime last last year we broke a record on a number of people crossing the border what happened. I thought it'd be getting tough on. This was supposed to work and we were supposed to have less people crossing the border well. It didn't work at all. It didn't work at all. Why because he taken away aid from three Latin American countries that desperately needed it he created worse situations and it lead to more migration not less migration? Because he's an idiot and then he said we're building we'll rapidly rapidly. None of it has been built so yes. They're working on now because he illegally diverted some funding to the wall but so far no extra walls built is is being built rapidly. Okay if it's being billed as certainly rapid okay now onto the troops. So all the presidents do this. They're all photo ops. So it's true and Democrats do it is true. Republicans do it But it's a nice thing anyway. You should still go and do Thanksgiving with the troops and I'm glad he did it. It's a nice gesture. Ester yes Anna's right. He does less than other presidents significantly less than Bush or Obama because he doesn't like to travel especially if he's not making money off in fact when he did go here because finally he. He's in real trouble on impeachment. So He's like oh I got a great idea. Lemmy hide behind the troops. That's what I saw. Aw let me use the troops of course right. So you know what he did after he came back. He complained that he didn't have enough to eat. He just can't leave well enough alone he just can. Just all you gotTa do is just shut up. Just go take the picture there. He just talk to me. Didn't have enough to eat. Why would you say that? And you're about to go on back on Air Force One where you'll have plenty to eat. You saw something where he referred to sue eating gorgeous Turkey. I do it as gorgeous Turkey. There was a gorgeous Turkey. Chopped it up and then ate. It was gorgeous you just before we chopped it up. Okay so yeah I mean okay. So here's the fascinating part about all of this right so he's like all right. I normally look like I'm a lazy ass with all these executive time and I don't do anything but like Lemme appear busy and again. He got advice for mark. Penn Clinton's strategist. But let's compare the two different presidents and whether or not the strategy will work for trump. Because it did work for Clinton but Clinton had other things other factors that worked in and his favorite so one of those factors was the fact that Clinton was much more popular. Then trump was so Clinton survived as one thousand nine hundred impeachment in part because the economy was roaring and because he appeared to many voters to be relentlessly focused on doing the business of the American people when Clinton left office in two thousand one Gallup Gallup measured his job approval rating at sixty six percent as we know. Trump's approval rating is not very high so Clinton's approval rating hovered in the high fifties and sixties whereas trump's has been mired below fifty percent. When that's being kind to he has never cross fifty percent that means he's literally never been popular in this country tree ever ever during the entire presidency the highest that I've seen him get his around forty five percent? That's this peak. He goes down into the mid thirties. I would just disastrous and as you can do the math yourself. There is about literally half of Clinton's popularity. There are many other factors that were Clinton at the end of his presidency. I thought this disastrous things for too much deregulation of banking media etc.. But what no one can take away from him was he. He was a workaholic. Everybody news he worked around. The clock. Wouldn't stop working. Meanwhile trump to Anna's point bills in six hours of what they call executive of time which is napping Fox and friends tweeting. Okay and and that's it. And that is what's considered his work that's eight everybody knows. Trump's the laziest man in America everybody knows that okay giant difference And so other than that. They were trying to impeach Clinton over consensual affair. He had when they actually started on a real estate deal that it turns out he was not corrupt on so it was totally tangential. Had nothing to do with anything whereas trump is committed half a dozen crimes and that are clear massive and what they were originally investigating them for. So there's all the difference in the world but but there's one thing that unites them and it's greasy consultant lobbyists like Mark Penn.. So look guys. I've seen Mark Penn and green green rooms and I think that I'm being that is a perfect photo to describe what Jank talking about right now. Yeah so I'm meaning agree with Ana China look off air. I'm cordial and amiable with everybody and sometimes so point where they are surprised. They're like those angry guy online right as I. I was told you a million times in my real life. I'm happy lucky. Just the news pisses me off. But but maybe Anna's right she doesn't talk to people in the Green Room Cetera. I mean Mark Penn and this is the exact democratic consultant group. No moral corridor all right. Oh who I'm getting paid. Who Cares this Clinton? Yeah Yeah you helped the bankers let Murdoch by everything in media. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. But but were Democrats were Democrats. You can't criticize US then. He turns around and helps trump. You you still Democrat. You Ain't a Democrat. You never were. You have no moral core at all so money money money money money here. Let me try to help trump trick people and get away with his crimes I am so Lamar. Pet is Mark Penn and he is among the worst of the worst. But it's not just Mark Penn a lot of these democratic consultants they will so then turn around and go where the money is. Oh you want to run as a third party candidate and maybe get trump elected no problem. You're billionaire money. Money money money money money. Everything's everything's about the money that they can get greasy hands on. So that's mark. Penn is a lot of his buddies in a democratic consultant. Class that runs Washington. They they don't care about any principals and look at that. The minute trump offers the money they go running like dogs of course of course and look I. My read of this is that it's GonNa Work Right. I mean the photo ops the one thing that trump is is really good at doing is self marketing and self promoting so even the we know the truth and even though we know what's actually happening behind these photo ops. He's not really doing anything for the American people. A lot of this stuff is more symbolic all IQ facts matter is it is going to work with people and it sucks. Democrats should have an anti-trump. I mean eight Schiff. Please don't let it be shift but also energetic and enthusiastic is someone to knock down every one of his talking points say this is our trump talking point a slayer. You're okay make it where she to leap you know. Oh no no. We can't do that. She she was originally in favor of impeachment. Get US right. She was right hi odor. No no but she'd be really aggressive. That's the whole point okay. Every every time. That was a fun fortieth slip every time I say for trump every time he does a talking point. Oh yeah well I was busy. You know not getting enough food with the troops right have Rashida or whoever you pick. But they've gotta be strong and aggressive. Come out and say no. That's not true. Here's your talking points to the day defeated and have charts. Put up big posters so the media could pay attention. Have someone knocked down. Every one of his stupid lies Democrats. This is not that hard. Please get in the ball game. We gotta take a break When we come back we have a breaking news story on a congressman from California who was about to plead guilty to a crime with doe you turn your passions into potential investment opportunities whether it's cannabis fashion travel video games or anything in between you? Tell them what you're interested in. And they'll help you uncover the investment potential dope provides your daily one unstop investment shop with lists of companies that relate to your personal interest relevant news and your favorite stocks videos that unpacked. Today's money moving. 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Thanks for being awesome part of our marriage and to you Mrs Bunny for embracing my infinite love. Ty T. cheers these guys last name really bunny or is that like a no. I don't know but I'd that'd be surprised. No it's obviously nicknamed yes So yes Jackson and Jessica Bunny. Thank you I'm Brian Wagner. Says by the way IDA Rodriguez was amazing and Magoo B.'s. Joke House on Saturday night. don't doubt that at all FUNNY DOT COM for over ver- dates when she's performing in your neck of the woods. Navene Guna Mugla writes in. I believe trump said killing terrorists not tariffs. So we're going to go back and check the tape on that if he did my bad and And thank you for pointing that out with you. We do the show together. Thank you for participating that was on twitter house. It Hugh I live. Talk to us on. Twitter lasts YouTube Super Chat. Jacoby Gardner says it was fun. Seeing Jenkins Hassan Stream and he suggests that pure on it next time as well. So this is Hassan's twitch stream which is not related to us. But I did go on as a guest over Thanksgiving and I showed him my triceps. So if you want to check that Out All right are buckle one-two-three says trump's presidential library is expected to be completed as soon as he finishes coloring the second book so Great Great Commerce guys thank you. We appreciate it all right. We have a big news story Republican. Publican Congressman Duncan Hunter plans on pleading guilty to one of the sixty criminal charges against him related to illegal use of campaign finance money So he had used Some of his campaign funds for all sorts of personal reasons. And of course that's against the law so He has released a statement. Head saying the plea I accepted is misuse of my own campaign funds of which I pled guilty to only one count. I think it's important that people know. Oh that I what I did I think it's important that people know that I did make mistakes. I did not properly monitor or count for my campaign money I justify justify my plea with the understanding that I'm responsible for my own campaign and my own campaign money now. This is a huge reversal. Because as we know we've talked talked about this story On the show extensively he had denied any wrongdoing but there was a great deal of evidence showing that he had spent the money on dental work mark on trips with his family on tactical military gear tactical hands From a military store Heels golf exactly really so all sorts of personal things that he's not supposed to use that money for he also said I'm confident that the transition will be a good one Referring to his seat in Congress my office is going to remain open. We're going to pass it off to whoever takes this exceeds. I think it's important to keep the seat a Republican seat. Well that's not it's a lot up to you and so it's really unclear whether he's going to resign but it seems like he's giving us a little bit of a hint that he plans to. Okay look you might be going to prison so that would be excellent. And of course he should One of the other things he spend the money on was flying his pet rabbit across the country and other things he spent money on was his five affairs now He then blamed his wife originally for misusing the money pretty sure she didn't spend it on their fares. Yes so now. He's turning around and say well you know. I hope my wife doesn't get any prison time for this and you know I'm accepting responsibility are you. You know he talks about well. It's just one cry`mom admitting to you. That's why it's a plea deal. Otherwise they'd convict you on all of the crimes right and And what happened. I thought you said it was as a deep state plot. See that's what they'd see understand. When Donald Trump and always latkes S- talk about the deep state and hoax of witch hunted center at Identify Day? A lot of these guys come back around and go. Yeah Yeah of course I did it. It'd be ridiculous. I don't WanNa go to prison for like twenty years so I'm going to take a plea and maybe go to prison for a couple of years For ripping off all my campaign donors in a manner that is brazenly illegal. Yeah of course I was lying. I said it was a deep state. Blonde Hootie the stupid enough to believe that. Oh right Republican voters who put them back into office in the middle the investigation when they already all these facts. Amazing because what you guys believe it really was the deep state plot because right now Dunkin hunters around goes no you more has of course it was in a deep state. Plot was an obvious lie. I did it so just money. Money from his own donors right I mean look. It's a republican congressman. I'm guessing that he doesn't have like small dollar donors. who were you know scraping by but but still I mean? These are people who supported him. He took their money and he spent it on nonsense including affairs and His wife he did throw his wife under a bus but then his wife life pleaded guilty and confessed to everything which of course threw him under the bus so he really had no choice but to take a plea deal which it appears. He's doing here and He did release a statement about his wife. He specifically said whatever. My time in custody will be by the way. She's facing five years but she'll probably serve much less. I will take that hit. My only hope is that the judge does not sentence my wife to jail. I think my kids need a mom in the home probably needed a dad in the home to where the Fathers Authors apparently having affairs in Washington. DC Yeah it was. ill-gotten gains Maybe you should have thought about your wife going to jail before you threw her under the bus and Mamie Light Donald Trump. You should put a couple of US behind. Hey if I throw everyone that is closest to me under a bus I might not have anyone left to support me but like Donald trump trump. You're an idiot and so you didn't think through it all and now come around and have to admit that you were in fact guilty and this is the easiest prediction of all time later when he gets out a prison he'll say Nah I mean yeah. Did I plead guilty and I serve time but I didn't really mean it. It was it was a deep say plot along. You know he's going to do that everybody. Everybody knows he's GonNa do that. These are the Greasy Est.. Worst people in America I how could you not see through this guy but he was narrowly reelected last time. This time around the same Democrats in the campaign and use sports someone who actually is corrupt. How about that for a change? Amar competent jar is an excellent candidate. He was a Justice Democrat. And and that means it doesn't take or pack money let alone abuse it like Dunkin hundred illegally so whether you agree one hundred percent with this politics are not in that district. At least you know he's clean. That would be a nice ice changed for your district so if you wanna find out more about him. It's compact campaign Dot Com C. A. M. P. A. CAMPAIGN DOT COM COMBAT CAMPAIGN DOT com. I'm great solid progressive in that district but most importantly clean and uncorrupted all right. Let's move on to our next story. Putin and Donald Trump has been pushing this nonsense conspiracy theory involving Ukraine and how it allegedly tried to battle in our two thousand sixteen gene presidential election now that has been debunked over and over again but that hasn't stopped some trump's latkes from regurgitating this propaganda. One of those latkes. He's was a senator Kennedy who recently went on Chuck. Todd show meet the press and found himself having to defend the statements that he made about Ukraine. Take a look doc. Now come on I gotta put up. You realize the only other person selling this argument outside the United States is this man Vladimir Putin this is what he said on November number twentieth. Thank God nobody is accusing us anymore. Interfering in US elections now they're accusing Ukraine. We'll let them sort this out among themselves. You just accused of former president of Ukraine. You've done not exactly what the Russian operation is trying to get American politicians to do. Are you would all concerned that you've been duped. No because us. You just read the articles. Do you believe the Economist magazine is a reputable journal. It's been around. I think since eighteen forty three let me put it this way chuck. Let's suppose I don't I don't believe it but you're right and I'm wrong. Then what harm would it do to allow the president of the United States who has demonstrated record fighting foreign corruption to introduce evidence. Why doesn't he he has been? He has been called provided he's been provided every opportunity community to provide exculpatory evidence on any of this and they have chosen not joey hasn't hasn't so he was suggesting Kennedy. It was suggesting that Ukraine There's a possibility that Ukraine could be guilty of hacking into the DNC server to obtain those emails again look Fiona Hill who is You know part of the intelligence community testify during the impeachment investigation and specifically called this out and said look there's some Republican can lawmakers who keep pushing this propaganda that Ukraine was behind that hack and Ukraine was absolutely not behind that it was one hundred hundred percent Russia. We have evidence to show that and this is incredibly harmful towards Ukraine. By the way it's it's totally harmful toward everything that's going on right now because of de-legitimize is every single part of our government right just to do Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin's bidding so looney is impossible to be about what had wild conspiracy theory. It is that Ukraine in an election. So what is the theory. Well trump laid it out the call with the Ukrainian president. He said look crowd. Streak has a server in Ukraine. And so I want you to investigate that now. Trump who said the crowd strike is a Ukrainian company that took the servers of the Democrats Dancy Server. DNC servers an somehow brought them over to Ukraine and are still hiding them Ukraine. Crowd strike is not at all Ukrainian company. It's an American company based in Sunnyvale. California cornea the the material the information that the people who hacked the DNC service guy is not in a server in Macleod. There's no physical server in Ukraine or in Sunnyvale. It's in the cloud point okay. So there's no basis at all for this Wyo insane conspiracy theory so then the people who originally put them back conspiracy. The theory turns out was not trump Putin so Putin says oh yeah I think the Ukrainians have the server. And that's that they're hiding right and trump doesn't know anything about a cloud does know anything about servers. There's no any of that right. So he says Oh Vlade told me to tell you guys at its Ukraine that works for me that works for blood. It was for everybody who's crooked so now so the entire Republican parties like Yep no there is no cloud. It was a server so Ukrainian company. I don't care that it's based in California. I'm just just GonNa lie to you on behalf of both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin the entire Republican Party. They've all become stooges for Putin. It is disgusting absolutely disgusting if Democrats had done one percent of this ten percent of this. The Republican Party would have them and the media would've gotten along they'd almost like put the Democratic Party out of business right now if they ten percent of this working on behalf of Putin like the obvious six stooges they are with wild insane conspiracy theories they don't even bother by one fact okay. So here's here's here's where I think. The biggest problem is right because Republicans are going to Republican. Trump is gonNA trump. They're going to do what they do. And they're they're not gonNA have any real evidence to back up their arguments. They're going to spread propaganda. They're going to spread lies. They're going to do whatever is possible to show trump that they're loyal to him right and in fact trump Recently tweeted in response to Senator Kennedy Thank you great Republican Senator John Kennedy for the job he did in representing both the Republican Republican Party and myself against sleepy is Chuck Todd on meet the press. Meet the depressed okay so clever remotely clever. So they're gonNA they're they're has lackeys of course they're going to go on any show any network or cable show and pretend like they're supportive of trump that they believe leave him. They think he's innocent because they care about their political careers so stop having them on the shows. Look the reason why we talk about it on. This show is because you need someone in the media. Got To debunk this nonsense. Otherwise you're just have all these mainstream media outlets who provide the platform but very rarely challenged these lawmakers in this case. Chuck Todd Congratulations. You Challenge Senator Kennedy but more often than not. He doesn't which is why this clip made news. Everyone's like Whoa Chuck Todd Awed. She goes see that he challenged him. It's amazing let's give them a big round of applause great. How `Bout don't have these people on anymore if you know they're lying and they're gonNA lie? It's predictable addictive. Why have them on there? I mean look they're good at media blackout. They've done it to Andrew Yang. They've done it to other Democratic candidates And in my case I in that case. I think that it's completely unjustified. Completely unfair because we're just talking about someone who has different ideas. Let's hear them. In this case you have people who who are neighbouring criminality in the executive branch so your points really good So but let me disagree with the for so I think you should have them on but that should not be the exception. It should be the rule. I saw chuck. Todd did a good job there And I liked it. He had Putin's quote ready to go. It would have been great if they had Fiona Hill's corps but that's nitpicking king so an actual aggressive. I agree with you Anna that That it's making news because the mainstream media almost never challenges Republicans so when they do like who come from but give kind of work credited is do chuck. Todd did a good job on that. He's done a good job on this issue before and so I think you should have him on shred them so that's a fine point of disagreement to have but your second points a bit devastating because the major media will say what am I going to do. That's the Republican Party. That's it's half the country would not really now about thirty five to forty percent of the country But I gotTa have them on their one of the major parties. I'm actually a very open to that argument. I I agree with that on the other hand. But you never have injury Yangon. You never have progressives on so progressives are arguably just just that wing of the Democratic Party. According to polling is larger than the entire Republican Party I can show you a dozen polls but does you have any progresses. I mean sometimes because you're forced to you'll have Bernie Sanders on because he's top two candidate but even then it's barely right but you almost never have any the progressives on to say things that are true and rational but yet you fill your airtime with these guys who are now. I mean John Kennedy used to be a person with some degree of intellect is some degree of principal. Even though I disagreed with him on everything now he's become the saddest little puppy dog one hundred percent Donald Donald Trump one hundred percent. But I I have to add one other thing because let's be fair. It's not just about Republicans right before that interview with Kennedy he he interviewed Amy Klobuchar and Amy Klobuchar put out a bunch of is regarding what Medicare for all would actually do that. He did not. That's my I point. That's my point okay. So it's it's frustrating. Because they know everything is so predictable. He had chuck todd in response to Kennedy. Had the graphic ready to go because he already knew what Kennedy was going to say right. They know what they're doing. And the fact of the matter is a lot of our societal issues shoes. Come from the fact that the media is not doing its job. They refuse to challenge certain lies and then they platform people without challenging them when they're enabling criminality most most of the time in this case again. Chuck Todd Did Challenge Kennedy. But how did we get to this point. How is it that so many Americans right now believe the nonsense and the lies coming from the Republican Lombardi? It's because the media consistently has failed to do its job. We'll look if they were doing their job and see. This is where they would say. Oh no way we can never ever say this they would say that the entire the Republican Party is lying on this issue. There is no question you don't have to say they're lying about being pro-life pro-choice that's an opinion but there are actual facts in the world and when the Republican Party lies in its entirety on the issue of the server in Ukraine and and almost every other defensive trump on impeachment their Actual provable lies. And it is your job to say yes. It is the entire Republican Party and they would never say that because they'd be like oh no. We would offend Republican viewers. You were. We were defending Republican Party. They would they wouldn't give us access. Okay then fine just say look admitted you should run logo that says we do political correctness on behalf of the Republican Party. We don't tell you the whole truth because then we might lose access the Republicans and by the way we also much worse when it comes to the Democrats Democrats we we cover up three quarters of the truth so we never tell you that Medicare for action provides you better insurance and private insurance covers more. We never ever tell you that we never ever tell you that. The current system cost twice as much as any other country that a single payer. We never tell. Oh you that in fact we tell you the replacement it would be more expensive which is just a flat out lie but we all say it and we platform all the moderate Democrats all thirty two of them in the race right and we never challenged them on any of that and whenever there's a progressive on we yell at them all Bernie Sanders cost too much money. Even though you're totally totally wrong on that issue so look yes. The mainstream media has massive massive problems. And how they're covering politics. You should care about the facts x and not about your desperate need to appease mainstream Democrats and lying Republicans when we come back from the break break We're going to do one of my favorite segments on the show as the White House turns but also wanted to let you guys know that Emma Viglen will be joining us for our to Very very own Emma Viglen in-studio in La. She will join us for our two. We'll be right back. We hope you're enjoying this free clip from the young Turks. If you WANNA get the whole show and more exclusive content content while supporting independent media become a member of T. dot com slash. Joined today in the meantime enjoy this back in young Turks so many Great comments only time for a couple of bucket of squirrels is ammo guess. Logic writes in with how many politicians nations getting run over. We're going to need to enhance our training of this country's bus drivers that's funny Stand against hopelessness says Kennedy claimed in the same interview that he had received the Intel briefing lawmakers the facts that shows the yarn about Ukraine attacking the US elections in two thousand sixteen is a Russian in origin. Well if you didn't received the Intel briefing then why are you on television talking about it because Intel doesn't matter he's GonNa defend trump no matter what because his political career depends on it one hundred percent. Meg says I'm going to try to live my life. So that Dr Fiona Hill would be proud of me like that. It's a random comment when I like it a lot Daniel Johnston just wants to say unto Eter Down Goes Dunk it down goes dunk. Ladies and gentlemen we got him My son machines that Hooked up today otherwise was that would play that for you but thank you for bringing it up Rexel on Youtube Super Chad says did I hear Jank biceps. Yes please no. My biceps are mediocre. The triceps on other end. Okay and then Tron not the legacy writes in donate even as a nonmember love to support unbiased news. Thank you when you use youtube super chat. you are helping the show. We really do appreciate that and of course you could become a member onto. It DOT COM has shown it also become a member on youtube by just cleaning the little joined button underneath. It gives you a couple of different options. You can get the post game you can get a different emojis. That let us know or handles or banners. I should say that. Let us know that your member on Youtube and we pay more attention to your comments than keeping a real all all right so let me you guys a quick roundup of news so today we had a lot of little news And it's kind of tragic for these folks that it's little news and I wanted to run through quickly for you. Guys guys a couple of people who have dropped out of the presidential race So Steve Bullock. It was good to know you. He is the governor of Montana and he dropped out today. He made one debate. Ah In July and his signature campaign issue is money out of politics. Well I love that so I was actually looking forward to that. He's governor of Montana. A bit of a populous money out politics two CETERA. But so why didn't gain any traction because even on his own signature shoe he ran as a middle ground candidate. You can't middle ground in your signature issue. There was no talk of we gotta get an amendment to end all private financing. There's no talk of corruption. If that's your signature issue you you gotTa talk about corruption. But he didn't want to offend this Democrats. Well okay. Congratulations on that strategy. You got zero percent and how now exited the the campaign. This is another guy that a lot of reporters are excited. About like Steve Bullock. I'll tell you sitting governor. Governors become president is leading Montana. Trump won Montana. But here's the Democrats deep deep ball park and then he came in all modern like moderates. Perfect boaters moderates how that turnout voters. Don't love moderates okay. Joe Sestak of former animal. Also a former congressman has been in Congress nine years but that is no excuse for the absolute uh-huh zero he got an press coverage press coverage. Unfortunately he's everything. Both these guys went and try to meet people in diners in Iowa. Some hokey stuff left over from decades ago. The Chris Matthews little yellow scream about like no you don't. They were all the diners. It didn't make any goddamn difference because the press wouldn't cover them. The only person who gave an the interview was us at the Young Turks. We gave almost all the candidates are willing interviews here At at their height the candidates were up to at their peak twenty twenty four presidential candidates on the democratic side. If you took it over time different people dropped out at different times. They believe there was twenty seven people in the race overall. We're now down to sixteen candidates. Joseph was a good guy and the press. Wendy decide who is legitimate and who is not legitimate are the ultimate kingmakers. Nobody rigs elections more than the mainstream media. You know whether it's implicit or not Whether it's conscious or not. They're the biggest deciders riders of all. And then they'll go. Oh no no no we got nothing to do with it. Oh please you never gave sestak chance right or wrong and then finally fun. Little Story and on Jay seculow is Donald Trump's main lawyer actually offense but you don't see much doesn't go on Fox News yelling and screaming like Rudy does not imprison like Michael Cohen Interesting New New York Times profile of him. One little side note that got a lot of people's attention. He apparently told a couple of close associates who then told The New York Times which is not an accident that he voted voted for Hillary Clinton in two thousand sixty seconds it was known as very conservative and is in evangelical circles but he is making sure that the New York Times profile of him. Less people know that he voted for Hillary Clinton I wonder why that is so my guess is later when trump is convicted on. Whatever thinks he's convicted on or thrown out of office or both because conviction fiction is both a political one in the Senate In regards impeachment. But you could have a criminal conviction as well and who know that better than his lawyer so his lawyer now going around saying look on his lawyer his lawyer I got a defendant right but I voted for Hillary. Perhaps very very telling all right. Well let's talk about story that gives me the excuse to use my favorite bumper as the White House turns. Don't go to the video. All right. So The predictable rift between Donald Trump and his personal lawyer. Rudy Giuliani continues to grow. And this this time it involves a Fox News host by the name of Steve Hilton. Which means that today? It's another episode of the White House. Turns UH suburban mistakes in the dirty general Um we all know that trump is itching to throw his personal lawyer. Rudy Giuliani under the bus. In in order to distract from the fact that Donald Trump also did questionable things when it came to Ukraine. That's why he's facing this impeachment investigation now now see if Hilton who is a host on Fox News Had some advice for Donald Trump to maybe speed up this process take a look. We learn more disturbing details. It's about Rudy's row. It turns out that the former MEZ own personal business interests wrapped up in all this to put it simply. He's been trying into enrich himself on the back of his relationship with President Trump. I you know what I'm just fed up with a lot of them rudy. Giuliani was a great man and a great leader data. But he's turned into an unmitigated and now it seems unethical disaster. While president trump has been trying to govern for the American people all these hangers on on have been trying to make money for themselves off trump. There are a bunch of chances. Griffis and spivs taking advantage of the president to do dodgy deals in the world olds shadiest places before they completely derail this presidency and it's substantive historic policy results on China the economy and much more. It's time time to dump these toxic trump's so before we get to Rudy Giuliani's response to this. Let's talk a little bit about what Rudy Giuliani is accused dove. What trump is accused of? And how all of this mess is really intertwined right because the fact of the matter is Rudy Giuliani was working with some shady. The people in Ukraine Those people were probably working with Rudy Giuliani because of his close relationship to Donald Trump but donald trump had his own objectives. He had his own agenda. He had his own wants which were very clear in the Memo that we saw the phone call between trump and Vladimir Zelinski the president uh of Ukraine trump wanted political dirt on his political rival Joe Biden and he said repeatedly in that conversation that of the landscape should speak to Rudy Giuliani. End William Bar his attorney general. Okay but rudy. Giuliani also had his own business dealings going on and so Steve Hilton isn't necessarily wrong long there. But he's on purpose in my opinion leaving out the lack of legality with what trump was doing and trying to dig up dirt on his political rival. Yeah he's half right and half comically wrong. So Steve Hilton's an interesting character. I interviewed him here. The Young Turks check out that interview because he's not a normal conservative He is an independent singer. And sometimes we'll agree with the populace left so I find him to be an interesting character character and one that is oftentimes intellectually honest. But not in this case so the pardon is right about is as Anna pointed out. Giuliani did the have side deals. Steve Hilton is right to point that out. He's right to say dump them except the Guiliani says I've got insurance than later when Said Oh donald trump. I was just kidding about my insurance wink. Wink Wink wink right. So that slipped. This team is obviously wrong about and I'd be surprised if he didn't know he was wrong. So just because Giuliani has a side deal doesn't mean that what he was doing with trump. Was it also unethical. And you know that. And so he makes it just seemed like Oh my God. Donald Trump's doing these wonderful policy initiatives and he's been doing Yeoman's work in the People's work so we're all working so hard getting so coach such good results. Poor Guiliani betrayed. Poor trump. Got Betrayed by Giuliani. He's such a good well meaning soul that he didn't know that Giuliani was doing this side. Business Oh please. You don't believe that nobody believes that. So you lose all credibility when you say comical things like that. Trump's policies have been a total disaster. Nor does he care about any of those policies he cares about being a griffin and the reason he picked Giuliani is. Because he's he's in a pod. Pick Michael Cohen. The same reason he picks every criminal in his administration not be. It's not the bug it's a feature that they are fellow criminals so the Ukrainian Business Partners Giuliani was working with Left part and Eager Fruman Were Pushing Giuliani Giuliani. To GET DONALD TRUMP to fire field and a hill right I'm sorry not funeral. Hill Marie Ivanovich. Because Marie Ivanovich was the ambassador to Ukraine who's actually holding holding corrupt people accountable and left parties eager according to what has said Wanted to get rid of Maria vich traits they were using Rudy Giuliani's help and his relationship to Donald Trump in order to accomplish that and they did accomplish that. So that's part of the issue here. Now let's go. I get to Giuliani's response to Hilton. Because it's hilarious of course on twitter and he says I have not taken a penny representing my friend president trump. I'm an outrage. That Steve Hilton reported that I was trying to pursue private business deals in Ukraine to enrich myself when in reality I've made zero in Ukraine Very Lazy Z.. Reporting a hold on I got to clarify. Yes like trump. He was too stupid to consummate the deal so they had papers. That Rudy Giuliani. Sign in to do these deals but he couldn't finish it and get paid so like trump. He turns around goes. Well look I went in with a gun to a bank and ask for the money but it turns. They didn't have the money so I'm not guilty. Yeah it's not how the law works still bank robbery and so I wanted to go may decide. I signed the paper saying Hey I'd love the money but God damn you can get the money. Well that doesn't make you not guilty and Julia's of former prosecutor. That's how we came up with the first place. He we know that he continues to write in this twitter threat. Since representing trump. I have considered and turned down all deals in Ukraine. Even even those not presenting a conflict lawyers tell me Steve Hilton is a wild card and I should sue him for libel he recklessly disregarded the truth both okay so one thing that just want to remind everyone about is that Giuliani can't keep his facts straight. He can't keep his story straight. In fact he admitted during a recent interview with Glenn Beck that he still communicating with the Ukrainians. Take a look. There are several prosecutors. He's sitting in Kiev right now. That want to come to the US to testify to that and they are not being given visas by our State Department and the Palm Peyot is the head of the State Department. President trump is the president. How are you is all I can tell you? Is that for three or four years. That embassy has deliberately interfered with the ability to develop this that you give me their names and I will go and bring the story. I will give you the name okay with them today. Contact with two some of them today. Groups corrupt prosecutors. By the way it's amazing so look it was a nice And meeting of the minds because Rudy thought I'll do a side deal with the people in Ukraine who are corrupt who want to get rid of the American ambassador. 'cause she's finding as corruption and then he goes and tells trump she's fighting corruption. You want a new corruption Ukraine. He's great let's fire her so they're both like hey we'd like to fire her because she's fighting fighting corruption and so for maybe for different reasons but they both wanted to do it and of course trump transfer on goose. Yeah I voted because I they wanted to fight corruption. I'll come but my last question is why is Glenn. Beck's studio buried underneath the sea. Okay can you. Can we bring it back up again because it looks like behind him. He's doing the show from underneath the ocean floor and it is serious. A Secret Bunker burried deep beneath the sea but they discovered something. They shouldn't have discovered a new movie coming out soon. Maybe it was the thing that wrote the beautiful mind drawing on the chalkboard next to him. All right we're gonNA take a break when we come back. Emma Nicholson joins us for our two.

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A 25-Year-Old Nevada Man Got COVID-19 Twice. Heres What We Knowand Dont KnowAbout Reinfection

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"Presented by the Salvation Army in a year with fewer red kettles. Help Rescue Christmas for the most vulnerable to give ask your smart speaker to make a donation to the Salvation Army or donate at. Salvation. Army USA DOT ORG. Twenty five year old. Nevada man got covid nineteen twice. Here's what we know and don't know about reinfection by Jamie Ducharme. It's possible not only to get cove nineteen twice but also to be sicker, the second time according to a new case report published in Lancet infectious diseases. But some experts cautioned there's still a lot to learn about cove nineteen reinfection and that the case cited in the paper is not likely representative majority of experiences with the novel. Corona virus. We're still learning about the biology of the virus and our own biology with regards to dealing with the virus said Study Co author Mark Penn Dorey Director of the Nevada State Public Health Laboratory. Well, we don't know how generalize -able the finding is a person can get this virus again, and they can become as sick or even more sick the second time around. The paper details the case of a twenty, five year old man living in Nevada. He initially tested positive for Covid nineteen in April, his symptoms including cough sore throat, headache nausea, and diarrhea cleared by the end of April and subsequently tested negative for covid nineteen. Then in late May, he began to experience many of the same symptoms again in early June, he was admitted to a hospital. where he again tested positive for Covid nineteen, this time his case was serious enough that doctors had to give him oxygen for breathing support genetic sequencing turned up significant differences between the virus samples taken in April and June. This almost certainly means he was infected twice as opposed to being sickened by virus that lingered dormant in his system after the first bout of illness according to the paper. While a handful of previous studies have documented other apparent instances of reinfection globally. This is the first such case confirmed in the US. Another case report that has not yet gone through peer review suggests reinfection may have occurred in Seattle to. It's significant for a couple of reasons. I it shows that reinfection can happen fairly quickly. Only forty eight days passed between the patients first and second positive tests. Previous studies have suggested Corona virus antibodies proteins produced as part of the body's immune response to the virus last at least three months but researchers and public health officials have said repeatedly that there is not yet enough evidence to say how well covid nineteen antibodies protect people from future infections nor for how long. The patient was not tested for Covid nineteen antibodies in April. So it's impossible to say whether he had a normal immune reaction to his first brush with the virus. He did however test positive for antibodies in June the Nevada patients experience also shows that a second case of Covid nineteen can be more serious than the first in some prior reports people who got corona virus twice seemed to have mild or even as symptomatic cases. The second time around which suggests previous infection confers at least some immune protection. The new paper calls into question whether that's always the case Dr Michael Mina and Assistant Professor of epidemiology at the Harvard t h Chan School of Public Health stressed on twitter that the Nevada patient could be a fluke. One serious confirmed reinfection than seven point eight, million covid nineteen cases in the US is exceedingly rare. Re Exposures are essential to build our immune system meaner wrote but like anything enough people get re exposure, there are going to be rare cases here and there that go awry and someone gets more sick. The second time indeed in a commentary accompanying the new study Akiko, it was sake a professor of immune biology at the Yale University School of Medicine noted that there are likely many mild or asymmetric secondary infections that go undetected due to the paucity of broad testing. And surveillance we do not know how frequently reinfection occurs among individuals who recovered from their first infection. She wrote a symptomatic reinfection cases can only be picked up by routine community testing read an airport for example, and we are probably severely underestimating the number of as dramatic reinspections. Pandora Studies Co author says the new study is not reason to panic and should not shake the public's confidence in vaccines while the study may speak to our own at natural immunity vaccine based immunity is often very different than that Pandora says, we can focus on the Achilles heels of the virus. The new study should however underscore that immunity to covid nineteen is not guaranteed. Even. For people who have already had the virus despite what President Donald Trump says, trump who on Monday held a campaign rally in Florida a week after being discharged from the hospital where he was getting covert nineteen treatment boasted about his health. It does give you a good feeling when you can beat something and now they say your immune trump said unmasked. I feel so powerful, there is not good evidence to support trump's claims and case studies like the new one. However rare show that reinfection is possible and should be taken seriously people who had cove nineteen nita social distance and wear a mask just as if they never had it pendry says.

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"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm deal Willman Hooghly. On Castro's dropping out of the presidential race the former housing secretary under President Barack Obama says he's suspending spending his campaign. NPR's Juana Summers reports. Castro was considered a rising star in the Democratic Party but since launching his presidential campaign he struggled to gain contraction in a crowded field of candidates while he participated in the first four primary debates. He didn't make the cut for those that followed the former. San Antonio Mayor was the the only Latino and the twenty twenty democratic race. He gained attention in recent weeks when he called for reordering the Democratic primary schedule. He said that Iowa and New Hampshire be to largely white states. That vote. I don't represent the demographics of the country in a video message to supporters. Castro says that his campaign shaped the conversation conversation on many issues but with only a month until Iowa voters kick off the presidential nominating process. It simply isn't his time Juana Summers. NPR Arnie's more US troops are on their way to the Middle East following this week's attack on the US embassy. In Baghdad pro Iran militia members stormed the embassy throwing rocks and setting fires. The attack cost secretariat state. Mike Pompeo to cancel the planned trip to Ukraine and other countries officials in Lebanon. Say they've received an international warrant for the arrest of former Nissan. CEO EEO Carlos Gone Turkish media. Meanwhile say police have detained. Several people allegedly involved in the escape of gone from Japan. NPR's Peter Kenyon reports for the detainees are said. There'd be pilots facing financial misconduct charges in what he called a rigged judicial system in Japan going announced this week that he had fled to Lebanon via Istanbul. Turkey's interior are. Your Ministry launched an investigation into the possible role of Turkish nationals. In the escape the executive is forfeiting. Some fourteen million dollars in bail. Japan wants to see him face charges of breach of trust and under reporting huger income Peter Kenyon NPR news. Extend Bull The price of an EPA penn which injects a drug used to treat severe allergic reactions. Actions has risen more than a dozen times in the last decade. NPR Sydney Lufkin explains how this continues to garner national attention. When mylan boosted its EPI pen price to three eight hundred dollars per auto injector a few years back? There were no generics the move sparked hearings on Capitol Hill Mylan began selling its own. Generic Mark Penn at half price in two thousand sixteen a different generic one FDA approval about a year ago. But Jim Yoakum with Connector D. R. X.. Health data firm firm says consumers may not be getting the bargain they expected for several generics. It come in At thought typically been at a significant discount discount to the branded product. He calls it the new normal Sydney Lufkin. NPR News stocks are moving higher on Wall Street in early trading today. The Dow Jones Jones industrials at last. Check up one hundred seventy five points. The Nasdaq up sixty points. The S&P Five hundred up twelve points this is. NPR scientists have discovered a marine animal. That can see without eyes is NPR's. Emily von explains it's a rift willing creature called the brittle star imagine a starfish but with with longer arms covered in stubby pickles. That's more or less brittle star. The Brittle Star lives in the Caribbean where it uses the light sensor cells all along its body to find patches patches of shade to scuttle into during the day but it turns out there's way more to brittle star vision than just sensing light and dark in a paper published this week in the the journal current biology scientists. Say That using it sensor cells the Brittle Star can actually detect objects in space and form an image it makes the Brittle Star. You're only the second known eyeless animal that can see Emily von. NPR News seven people have been killed in a helicopter crash in Taiwan including the country's is top military official general. Ming was in charge of the island's defense against China. Five other people survived the crash of the Blackhawk helicopter in mountains near this capital of Taipei residents of the Indonesian capital of Jakarta are beginning to return home today. Following major flooding over the new year more than fourteen inches of rain fell in Jakarta on New Year's Eve creating floodwaters deep as eight feet in some places at least sixteen people were killed by the flooding. Don Larsen who threw the only no hitter in world series history. History died last night. He was ninety years old. His agents said Larsen died of cancer in Idaho license. 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No Spin News, January 22, 2020

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

10:07 min | 1 year ago

No Spin News, January 22, 2020

"Welcome to the nose. Bend News Wednesday January Twenty Second Two thousand twenty five for your freedom. What can I say about the impeachment hearings? So I think it went on the three o'clock in the morning or my dad. I was fast asleep and when I was watching a little bit late night. I couldn't tell the difference between the impeachment hearing and Stephen Colbert Little Stevie is show a so ideological. I thought I was watching that. But we're Stevie I have to say as a reporter order. This is so hard for me because I just can't sit there and listen to it. It's not the partisan blather it's the repetition I got it. Everybody's got it right. You think you democrat managers. Think that there's some kind of heinous crime committed when a sitting president who's upset about a bogus. Russian collusion investigation asked the foreign president to look into the possibility. Okay that his country was involved in that bogus Russian collusion investigation. You think that's terrible. You think that's a felony. You think he should be booted out. I don't is an American. I just think it's foolish. But more than that. It's destructive Mark Penn Bill Clinton's guy in Impeachment Schmidt. One of his main guys right to call them on the hill today. So we'll total waste of time. It's bad for the country and he's right he's absolutely right. Where's the immigration nation reform? Where's the healthcare drug price reform? Where's the social security Medicare vision? That's going bankrupt. Where's any of a bit? I gotTA listen Adam Schiff and Nadler and I don't mind trump guys. It is doing what they think is right. And they're just going what I'm saying really annoy anything. But it's repetition repetition repetition and I'm tired of it but as a reporter I have to pay attention to it. Holly the Tara Dogs like fled the house. Nobody I know is watching this and television ratings last night. We're abysmal for it. America's watch this they know and it's just a division in the country as I wrote about today message of the day. There are three reasons the country's more divided now than at any other time since the civil war for three reasons read it. Read the column all right all right. You don't like trump fine. Don't vote for him in November. It's coming up fast all right so I'm gonNA play the two soundbites on impeachment thing. Being the first one is a brawl that these spring court Justice John Roberts the chief justice scolded all of the People in the Senate about roll it only guilty. People tried to hide evidence so I guess when President Obama instructed his attorney general to not give information he was guilty of a crime. That's the way it works. Mr Nadler President's council has no standing to talk about line. He's been making false allegations against the president. The only one who should be embarrassed harassed. Mr Nadler is you all right. So Justice Robert say knock it off. Okay just let's get factually get through it. The second sound bite is from President trump today in Switzerland. He's back already in you in the USA but before he loves what Salihi said desktop. I would rather go the long way I would rather interview Bolton I would rather interview a lot of people. The Problem Rob Lowe with John is that it's a national security problem. You know you can't have somebody who's at national security and if you think about John and and he knows some of my thoughts he knows what I think about leaders. What happens if he reveals what I think about a certain leader and it's not very positive the different than I have to deal on behalf of the country? It's going to be very hard. It's GonNa make the job very hard. He knows other things and I don't know if we left in the best terms uh-huh I would say probably not all right. So that's a very measured and very important statement in President. Trump's explain Kim at my council and my the national security people go into the Senate under oath and speak about our private conversations. That's what executive privileges can't can't hand over documents are right that we have crafted. You elected me to be president. I'm being president. I seek advice I write the things down. We can't give that out those classified information. That is a very measured and rational position and I was happy to see it. You are listening to a free excerpt from Bill O'Reilly dot com no spin news broadcasts where you can actually see me. We'll be right back after this this message Mexico so last year Mexican authorities tell us there were thirty four thousand five hundred hundred eighty two murders in country. Thirty four thousand five eighty two. I believe that number is double that about seventy thousand. It's based on law enforcement agents to tell me a lot of people disappear. They're not counted a lot of people. Die They say. It's natural causes houses when it isn't the drug cartels doing it so Mexico's population of one hundred twenty six million USA population three hundred thirty million plus a lot of illegal aliens from Mexico he murders in two thousand eighteen. We don't have the numbers for nineteen yet sixteen sixteen thousand to fourteen less than half of what Mexico who has two thirds less population Mexico. Dangerous place the President Manuel Lopez Oprah door Can't control troll cartels. Now you remember the Donald Trump said you can't control them we'll controllable designated terrorists and we'll blow them up like you did with Sola Mani but then that went away. Why did it go away? I told you why I told you. What a deal was made private deal between president trump and oprah door and that deal was you will not allow migrants from Central America Mexico to come through your country and besiege our borders? And that's exactly tap so another caravan came up from Honduras the Mexican army turn them back and the few that got through were rounded up up but a federal rallies put on planes and flown back on doors at Mexico's expense now. Mexico never never would have done that had not donald trump said. Hey we'll take care your cartels. Now the question is why wouldn't over door want on the United States to help him wipe out the drug cartels. I would want it if I were prison in Mexico. Because of machismo the Yankees leads make the Mexican government look bad. That's what it's about so donald trump made this deal. You said Dobra door you stop these caravans prevents and we'll not designate the cartels terrorists terror groups and we'll make that Mexican. I can deal that Mexican deal happen. You are listening to a free excerpt from Bill O'Reilly dot com no spin news broadcasts where you can actually see me. We'll be right back after this message. Okay so let's go some else. Sandra Hague pickering ten Ohio Ohio Bill. Thank you so much for letting US know. We need to know about impeachment. I turned it on for two minutes. I had to Bell Adam. Schiff is one scary dude. I can't I just can't I'm sorry. It's not partisan if Adam Schiff were in star wars I wouldn't go he could sukey. Andrew concierge member thank you Andrew. Remember concierge membership. There's a lot of fun too much politics involved in skin color perfect observation. Bill is too much money to be made from too in some precincts. But you know the the sharpens and people like that they make money. But the a Lotta politics and that's why we're pitted against each other primary Rusty Durch Lakewood Colorado. My wife and I enjoyed your conversation vision with Alexander Green the other day we hope to see them often talked about force technology transfers in China. Could you explain if you do business in China. And you're a High Tech Company and you're selling your Gizmos to be bought in Beijing and Hong Kong and others. The Chinese government says. Hey you gotta tell us how those work work to we can have those gizmos. We don't need yours. That's what it's about Crazy horse killing crazy horse. May the twelfth re sign up for premium concierge membership get a free get it I you'll like it killing crazy horse. I am working on the illustrations. Now and book is really coming together. Exciting Book See you tomorrow.

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Ep. 996 - Our Flag is Still There

The Andrew Klavan Show

51:34 min | 9 months ago

Ep. 996 - Our Flag is Still There

"Well it's flu season. Which means a rise in incidence of hysteria and also. The chinese flu sometimes called. The wu flew flew man. Chew the kung fu or the communist dirtbag flu or sometimes just the evil thing that china did to the rest of the world flew for short as a numerous journalists panic and high pitched voices over numbers. Don't mean anything governors like power. Rub their sweaty hands together with glee and consider how they can torment the populations who made the mistake. Voting for them with useless restrictions. That will destroy your business while having no effect on numbers. That don't mean anything anyway. Governor newsom of california says because of the rise in flu cases he will issue an executive order allowing him to wear a sterling blue military uniform with gold epaulettes. These will go stunningly with the by corn. Hat made popular by napoleon bonaparte. Also a governor of california along with the smashing uniform newsome says california's may only gather in groups of one or fewer and must pass around thanksgiving turkey by mail. The only exceptions are looters and anyone who invites him to a party with the drinks for free in michigan. Governor uber student. Ober sturm fear gretchen. Whitmer says the uptick in chinese virus cases will require her march back and forth on our balcony swinging her straight arms wide arcs and snapping her. He'll smartly on the ground with each step while a grateful state of michigan repeatedly stabs. They're open hands into air and salute other than that however no one is allowed to leave their homes unless governor over sturm fewer needs to have her hair done in which case her stylist may go to a shop to give her a cut and blow before being executed for breaking the lockdown rules in chicago mayor lori. Lightfoot says everyone has to stay at home except for her and gang members who urgently need to get to a drive by shooting trigger warning. I'm andrew klavan and this is the andrew klavan show told shipshape see thompson so wonderful as we want to see all right the vast right wing conspiracy known as clayton on continues tomorrow is the mailbag and you may say what. What does that mean to me. And i will tell you that means that right now by a force of california law executive order being put out for the entire country you have to go to the daily wire dot com and subscribe. You have to subscribe. You must do this or else. You'll catch the chinese flu and once you subscribe. You can then go to the podcast page. Go to the andrew klavan podcast get the little mailbag symbol and you are allowed factor required to ask me anything you want. You can ask me about religion. You can ask me about your personal life. You can ask me politics and all my answers. Guaranteed one hundred percent correct and will change your life. Will they change your life for the better. That's the question you can find that out tomorrow when we get to the mailbag also while you're doing all that taking care of business go on the youtube page. The andrew klavan youtube channel and subscribe. So you can get all my comment all my content. Which if you hit that little bell the content is sent you automatically By a little gnome who shows up and then stands on your lawn decorating your lawn and delivering content. I don't even know what i'm talking about anymore. But the important thing is leave a comment if you leave a comment and it is sufficiently cruel and unthinking and selfish. We will included on this show as just a natural part of the commentary from garrison. Barrel-a-day believe is may barrel but his garrison ballet he says since thanos percent it's filled with psychotics since thanos presented scientific evidence that killing fifty percent of the population helps wealth in environment. Does that make the avengers science. Yes it does especially when they start flying around. Because you can't do that. Oh you know. What's coming up black friday. That means deals and that means you should go and take a look at mac weldon. That's where you get men's essentials. I'm wearing a mac. Weldon t-shirt even as i speak. You can hear the confidence and comfort in my voice mac. Walden is offering exclusive all black pack which includes a t shirt. I'm wearing underwear and socks inside of a backpack. The all black pack comes with more than one hundred and fifty bucks worth products but on black friday you can get them for just ninety eight bucks. Mcquillan is a great place to go for socks. Shirts hoodies underwear. Polos active shorts. They promised comfort and a consistent fit. I really like my really think. They feel good and they look to grab your exclusive all black pack for just ninety eight bucks while supplies last visit mac weldon dot com slash clayton and enter promo code klavan. You'll also get twenty percent off your first order that's macworld dot com slash cleveland. Promo code cliven for twenty percent off and the all black pack for ninety eight bucks. Mac weldon reinventing basics. You want to rip open your shirt. Show them that. You're wearing a t shirt like mine and say how do you play. Even it's k. L. la via also. Just let me address this for a minute before we really saw a lot of people are not a lot of people but there are a number of people who are leaving comments. They're angry at me. Because i'm not convinced that the election was stolen. It was not a gigantic heist. And you know. I'm i'm interested in that. I don't know whether it was stolen anymore than you do you. And i don't know we are hearing lawyers are saying And they're saying oh we've got all. The evidence has their job to say that. Then we're doing what reporters are saying. They're saying the evidence is basis. That's not their job that's different. They are being low-life scum for doing that because they don't know either so none of us knows we're waiting for the information to come in. And all i can tell you is what it looks like to me. That's what i can tell you. What is the alternative to that. You want me to tell you what you think would be nice to have happened. Is that by turning on you. Want me to tell you that. Everything is ticketing boobs just the way you think it is i. I can't do that. That's not loyalty to me. That's not being conservative to me. My my loyalty is to tell you the truth. Is i see it. Which is that. i don't know the answer. There may be a big surprise right now. The vote looks exactly like what i feared. It would look like democrats lost in districts that trump also lost in. I don't see how you set that fraught up right. I mean people voted against trump. but they also voted against the democrats in the same districts. Georgia counted the votes by hand. And they had some dominion steph software. That's the one that everybody says. The suspect in a couple of counties and the the count was right. The count was not Jittered by the By the software and people said well they count the votes today. Certify the signature. You can't certify the signature after the vote. It's a secret ballot You certify signature when somebody comes in. That's why we believe in showing picture photo. Id and signing things. We've believed that you know your identity should be a certain before you vote but even if that's true even if the days are fraudulent. I don't see how they're going to prove it now. So you know this is. These are things that the trump people could have done beforehand. They could've sued to stop certain things from happening. They didn't now. I just don't see how this is going to be overturned unless it's true. They come in and they had this amazing algorithm. Here's a thing. So as every time you vote for biden it switches over trump. That could happen. It would be pretty big. It would be a big deal of it did. I'd be surprised. But i've been surprised before i could be wrong. All i can tell you is what i think. And if you don't want me to do that you're right. You know you should leave it when you call you. Say oh. I'm a democrat because i don't think the thing was stolen. You know i can only tell you what i think and again since none of us knows i don't understand why it. Why would be a better thing for me to do the tell you oh it looks another way different way just because that would make you feel better that that is not what the show is about us. So what i'm about. And so. I'm just i'm just telling you what i think and again if i turn out to be wrong no one will be happier than me. No me happier me. Deaf another four more years of donald trump. It'll be if nothing else would be lot more fun than having four years of watching joe biden slowly fade into the wallpaper all right now. One of the most comical aspects about the left is the way they keep right wingers of harboring conspiracy theories while. They're continue hatching conspiracies. They want children to be sexually transitioned and propagandized about every possible sexual perversity and then they make fun of right finger right wingers believing in cunanan which is false in fact but inspired by an open massive conspiracy of child abuse they say define the police and then they accuse us of being paranoid for thinking that means defunding the police where we get that silly idea they attack us with the news media and then cry like little girls when we call them out for attacking us with the news media. Oh you're damaging the first amendment. How can we think they're being anything but objective when they attack our president ninety five percent of the time they censor us on social media and call us absurd for thinking they censor us on social media and now is the great reset. I don't know if you've heard about this. But this is pretty amazing. Conservatives are always being attacked for believing that for instance governors are overstepping their powers by closing businesses and mandating masks and telling people how many guests they can have for thanksgiving. We think they're taking advantage of a disease to seize power and also to accustom losing our freedom to customers to obey to obain We don't want to be accustomed to obtain. They can take their masks and shove them silly us. Okay then you go on a website. The website of the world economic forum. These are those jackass elites who needed davos every year and they fantasize about controlling the future for the rest of us. They must be smarter than us. Look how much money they make you go on their website and find their plans for the great reset a scheme to use the pandemic to seize power for international institutions in the name of socialism. That's what it is. Here's what they say they say. The great reset has three parts greater economic policy coordination among nations to quote steer the market toward fair outcomes sounds like international socialism to me they want to international control over investments so that they quote ensure that investments advanced sheriff goals such as equality and sustainability international socialism. Three to harness the innovations of the fourth industrial revolution to support the public good addressing health and social challenges matt satin ask sounds kind of like international socialism so they left out four. We're all of these. Schmucks are tired and feathered and carried on rails down to the river londe vassar and da da votes. Will we toss them in like so. Much english t. It's an old habit. We have who decided that. Equality and sustainability are shared. Neither of those is michael who gave them the power to steer investments in harness innovations and let it instead of investments and innovations going where they're needed and where people are willing to pay for them as capitalism dictates. These guys need to be put on international television and kicked swiftly in the backside to bring them back to a realistic sense of where they stand in the big scheme of things the are in the imprint of our boot on the seat of their pants will remind them who they really are instead of who they think they are when they look in their golden framed mirrors so in the old days when people were having trouble with shaq's when guys were having trouble sexy go out and they'd kill rhinoceros and grind his horn up. People still do this and the two problems you can see why they thought that my work but the two problems with this one. 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The opposite of the great reset is the magazine's trump vaccines that have come out because of donald trump's With donald trump. That hey i want to stop for just a second. It'd go back to this this thing without yesterday there was this big for at some british rockstar. What's his name Styles harry styles. Yeah and he went on. He went on vogue in address and there was a big You know candace owens call them out saying we need men to be manly and ben shapiro backed backdrop and all this stuff and know. I have to be honest. My reaction was to me if a british guy wants to act like a sissy. I mean do you know the british. Have you ever heard the way they talk. Plus he's a rockstar. not even original. I mean david. Bowie used to do this back in the day. It was a little different boy talent. But still you know. British rockstars dressing up as as girls is not. It's not a big thing. Here's what bothers me. What bothers me is guys who lead us acting like girls which brings me to justin trudeau bieber whichever i can't i always get those two confused justin trudeau in canada. Who is the ultimate metro sexual whisk will of wisp. He buys into this great reset one hundred percent. So you know who's backing it. This is like cut. Twenty two here's trudeau. Endemic is provided an opportunity for recent. This is our chance to accelerate our pre pandemic efforts to reimagine economic systems that actually aggress global challenges like extreme poverty inequality and climate change. That's the guy in the dress who bothers me okay. Because it is what men do is they depend on freedom and they want freedom and they're willing to take risks for freedom and they're willing to stand up for their country and their freedom of their country is only like metrosexual. Harry styles like guys and dresses like justin trudeau who are willing to turn over all the power to these experts in davos because look how rich they are. They must know something. The opposite of this is the magazines. It's the trumps the trump vaccines that have their because of operation warp speed. Now here's i'm just going to read a little of this from the wall street journal. He says the these are. This is a miracle. Okay this is a scientific miracle this is when they talk about science and how we should respect science. This is where. I respect science. This is an amazing thing that was done because trump said. Let's get this done and it got done. This virtually like it is as close to curing the common cold as we've ever seen that they could come up with in the course of months ninety five percent effective vaccines for this kind of corona virus is startling right and the wall street journal says credit here goes to private drug investment and innovation but also to the trump administration for speeding up government approvals. Right what trump did is he pulled the fda off these guys the fda is a hyper. Listen i obviously. We want controls on medicines right. You don't wanna take a medicine suddenly find you have a big corn growing out of the side of your head although i kind of like that but most of us don't want that you don't want to have that you want if the oversee these things but they are a bureaucracy. Bureaucracies are meant to slow things down. That's why you have bureaucracies. So they do irrational stuff like for instance when they make medicine for a disease that is fatal they say well we can't test this on human beings you think why not. They're gonna die without disease. What's the worst thing that can happen to them. They said well. It gives them false. Hope it's like who cares. It is only false. Hope if the medicine doesn't work you know it's just nonsense. The other thing they do and this is typical of experts and typical of internationalist. Right if they find a Medicine that helps some people but not other people. If it's effective in certain cases but not other cases they will. They'll say well. It doesn't have a widespread effect so we can't really release that right. that's ridiculous. That is utterly ridiculous. The other day the world health organization that were testing remdesivir. Which i think is is one of the things that trump took when he got over it And the thing is the remdesivir helps certain kinds of people at certain moments in the disease if they get very quickly older people. I believe It helps people it lessens. The disease it lessens. The death rate something like forty four percent a lot right. So the world health organization they ran a trial and reported. There was no benefit from this and other anti-viral drugs Because what they found is that they found that they used aggregated data from different countries. That had didn't have the kind of healthcare. We have right so they were saying well. If you use this in lebanon south. Africa uses a pakistan or albanian. It's not going to have a good effect. It's going to have a good effect. Yeah but if you use it in america where we have excellent excellent healthcare. Because we've kept it. Free this long until obamacare. We kept a free market health-care so we have great healthcare system. Then it has an effect it has an effect. It's going to help some people so this is the thing. Here's kathleen sibelius. She was the a health and human services director under obama. Right and she has. She's been forced to give. She's they're prying some credit for the trump administration out of her mouth but listened to what she says. This is cut four. You said operation warp seat been very successful. How much credit do you give to the trump administration now for this vaccine development. I give a lot of credit to the trump administration for understanding that the muscle of the federal government the financing from the federal government. The urgency from the federal government makes a huge difference can only see one side of the equation. You can only see the side of the equation where the federal government used its muscle federal government using not yup. But it used its muscles to support free-market market innovation companies competing with each other trying to beat each other to get the federal funds and to use the federal funds and to get to use those funds to get ahead of their competition. This was a good partnership between the government and private business in an emergency. This is a good thing whereas the left always wants use these emergencies for the great reset. The great reset is just international socialism. It's an amazing amazing thing. So then they accuse us they accuse us of being conspiracy theories wanna. They conspire against us. In plain sight is on their website. You know it's just. It's just a little bit of non harry styles manly courage to get things done and to believe that free people can get things done and to believe that they don't need to be taken care of by the rich and one of the things that i'm looking at when i look at this election i keep seeing good news in this election and i know we're all this is the thing that gets me. I'm severely disappointed to lose donald trump's president. I think he was doing a great job. But i want i warned you guys at this white. Be one of the outcomes. And i think it was one of the outcomes and i hope it's turned around and i hope that he'd go into court and it's a dramatic perry mason thing where they reveal all this fraud and it's all turned around and this is all a bad dream. Okay fine. I keep seeing also good stuff and what i'm seeing is. Is that our people. The american people are still there are flag is still there. The american people are still the american people you know it's it is endemic to conservatives to think that just because people are conspiring they will win and just because the left is doing stuff. It will work that that is the way conservatives thinking i i gotta let the other day saying you know that somebody once said that. The news media gives the democrats a five to ten point advantage. How can you not think so. This letter that with them doing everything they could to bring trump down and there's just no question about it doesn't that mean they had a twenty percent advantage and i thought maybe but maybe what i think actually is they have so thoroughly discredited them discredited themselves that they have so thoroughly discredited themselves that nobody is listening to the mainstream media anymore. So i know it's hard to pay attention to what i'm saying when you're just looking at me and thinking how does he look that great in the way i look this great. 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I don't know but the who writes us copy. Anybody can smell sean. How how you're asking yourself how please tell me. How do you spell cleveland. It's the v. a. n. If you forgot from the last ad. I'm going to read you something. This is really an amazing piece and it's from the left. It is you know i try to keep a breast of what the left is shame and for a long time as reading the new york times to find out what the left or saying but the problem with that the problem with reading the new york times is that they lie even to their own people. They have now become a kind of college newspaper. That says what they think will have the effect on people that they wanted to have. They're not telling people they're not saying to the left. Oh the evil trump. Here's what he did and here's what we did wrong and all this. They're not doing that. They're telling you what you want to hear. As some of the people want me to tell them what what they wanna hear. so they've become. The times has become almost useless except as a source of satire. for which. I'm grateful. I feel like i should send him a little a little money every every week. for the for the satire but the daily beast has a really important piece. I want to read this to you. Because i just want to visit with the left for a moment to find out what they're saying about us. Okay biden won the battle but dims are losing the social media war. That sounds like almost something. Like i have been saying for the last several days. This is by three daily beast. Writers and the sub head is insular. Impenetrable worlds are developing online. That democrats aren't reaching us eight access. It's insular in penetrable world. The democrats aren't reaching or matching. It didn't doom them in twenty twenty but it could down the road see coming and they're not happy as the i'm i'm going to read so substantial piece of this because it really is wonderful. It's wonderful to see this from their point of view. I just really really interested in. it's kind of. It's kind of a dishonest article. In some ways it's so slanted it's dishonest kind of charming To see what they're thinking as the two thousand twenty election hit home before we crush them. Of course you went. You went by the way if you heavier. Leftist tears tumbler. You might wanna keep it handy to watch it magically fill up as i read this do as the two thousand twenty election hit his homestretch. Joe biden's digital team began seeing alarming trends online posts about the candidates son. Hunter biden in the contents of his laptops. Were spreading at incredible rates. Many of the posts were misleading at best buy his campaign had set up a comprehensive monitoring system to track the proliferation of disinformation across various platforms. And they'd seen their fair share of rumor innuendo and smear fly across the internet before that's a blitz campaign that's true that's both sides But this was entirely different. This was spreading so fast they were afraid that there would be a redux of that disastrous end of the campaign implosion of hillary clinton and her emails. What they found was more assuring. While the hundred biden story had taken off on facebook youtube in various rattling sites it had not crossed over into mainstream outlets so in other words they saw what we saw that the mainstream stomped on this story which was a valid story. They think it wasn't a valid stored. We see this differently right. We see a good story that was stomped on by the mainstream media and they are celebrating that but wait a minute. How did it get out there so much. I told you at the time it got out there because we got out there right and now they're seeing this. This thing is happening. They they're seeing that the mainstream media crush this but here's what they're not saying. Okay here's what they just don't see and it really is amazing. Here is a press conference with joe biden. Just the questions taken out by our friends at newsbusters now. I don't like to play pornography. Like in just have seen scenes of oral sex like this but this is what you're going to be watching. This is like the news media sexually servicing joe biden. Just just listen to the questions. They're asking us cut five with. Do you see as the biggest threat to your transition right. Now given president trump's unprecedented attempt to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power. You just spoke of some of the dangers of the president's continued stonewalling of this transition but it doesn't appear that the president is going to come around anytime soon and admit defeat. So what are you going to do. What options do you have to try. And ensure that you already to go on day one you have been urging the american public to continue practicing social distancing and wearing a mask but with cases skyrocketing across the country. But do you think that more governors should be closing non essential businesses and reinstating stay at home orders following up on that especially with many states reporting new highs in terms of the daily number of cases and public health officials. Sounding the alarm over. The holidays would you. What is your message to people who are considering for example. Getting together with their families and others for thanksgiving they should really give the press kneepads. If this was the way this is going to go have sorry. I know there's a little grotesque joke but it is. Descriptive is the only one i can think of because the left can't see that this is biased. Because they think this is just reality. they can't see why we're beating them on social media so they say as the party is back to the daily beast says the party take stock of an election in which it suffered unexpected losses down ballot and a major triumph at the top of the ticket. At least one area of agreement has emerged. Democrats are still losing the war online aids tasked with monitoring this universe. Compared it to a centipede where disinformation started as a colonel in one spot and maneuvered its way through a chain of larger and larger pages and platforms salem media. Get some danger music. In your salem media western journal judicial watch amazing judicial. watch the one place where they sought tsu. Were they file freedom. Information act request to get information out of the government which the press doesn't do the bongino report who that evil dan bongino info wars ben shapiro and daily wire. That's kinda going up the ladder from the smallest to the largest. I love the fact that ben and us are put in there with info wars. That's great they would all pass. We would all pass along similar stories videos and recordings providing a type of information feedback loop that was boosted by facebook's algorithm and more importantly drew in audiences who never felt like they needed to go elsewhere for news. Why don't we go elsewhere for news because they lie elsewhere for news. That's why and just remember you know. Remember tara reade versus blasi ford remember. Be biden's laptop versus russian collusion. You know all these you you can. You can't have thanksgiving but you can in riot again and again and again the double standard of love. But they don't see it. They think that that's winning. It's not winning is winning when you tell. The truth is winning when people can tell the truth and argue back and forth over what the truth means so fox news. At one biden campaign. Staffer became the left pole of the media ecosystem for a lot of people on the right. There is a broad swath of the american right for which fox news is. Now the center and the info they rely on is from their friends online on facebook. This ladies and gentlemen is a major triumph for us. This means that we are making people more conservative. And you know. Obviously when you've got people like ben and me. I mean we're being cursed out as democrats by some people you know when you have people like ben and me and dan who is also a staunch conservative but these guys are not Extremists in any way shape or form. It's a good thing if we're bringing people in line these are people afraid of what is going on. Because we're winning because we're beating them as i keep telling you we are and now because they are clueless. We have a chance to move into start eating into their audience. This is the thing right now. We're we're we're reaching the people who kind of agree with us and were were educating them and we're giving information to them that they can't they know they can't get elsewhere but still not reaching the people. The moderates would listen to us. Who have think we have something to say and we should. We should be doing that. We should be taken care to do that. And expanding and building sites to do that I just want to go on and get a couple of more things moments that should have been politically damaging for the president says. The daily beast were turned into powerful tools to buck his supporters and reinforce his key messaging tara mcgowan a leading democrat digital strategist says impeachment was so bad for us because it fit into trump's meta narrative that they reinforced everyday that had deep state conspiracy was after them once again. They're accusing conspiracy while they're conspiring. They actually impeach this president over a phone call. He had with the president of the ukraine while the immediate cheered them on and it was bad for them. Why was it bad for them if nbc and cbs and abc. We're supporting at the new york times and the washington post was support. Why was it bad for them. They're telling us it. Was they the democrats. Why because of us because of aas because we were telling them the truth because we were laughing off and most people in this country have a lot of common sense and it's not because we're lying to them it's because it made sense what we were saying made sense in there. So immersed in their bubble these guys. They don't understand why this is here hurting them. Here's more months later. As racial unrest erupted occasionally violently in cities around the country. Democrats face the same feedback loop of conservative posted commentary that reinforced some of the presence of political messaging namely they were rioting in kenosha wisconsin. The truth is what they're trying to fight against right. And here's this lady. Tara mcgowan says. I don't know if we would have been able to recover from the law and order narrative. They think it's a narrative they don't understand that it's actually a riot. I don't know if we would have been able to recover from the law and order narrative if the president himself hadn't contracted the virus frankly if the pandemic had not come. I think we would have absolutely lost his presidential election now. When the president caught the virus. I came on and told you of quoting one of a right-wing pollster that this was the worst thing that ever happened to president during any campaign. And you all yelled peop- the same people who were yelling me now about the election yelled at me then say no no no. It's a good thing. He caught the virus. No it wasn't because if fed into what they were saying that they were saying is virus. It's real you should wear a mask and trump was obviously not doing that. That's not a value thing. We value the president's courage. We value the fact that he wasn't being dominated by the virus. A lot of people didn't a lot of people looked at that and they thought. Oh wow the people the press was right. He did catch this. I don't want to catch it. This was a bad thing. I told you at the time because here. We're telling you the truth. We're not telling you the narrative. I told you that time. That was a bad thing for him. That's what they're saying. Now here's the stuff. Here's part about this. I love david goldstein. The ceo of the digital media organization toba lab and a former obama pollster estimated that he was on at least one to two hundred. Different conference calls with democrats. This cycle and heard only one person mentioned talking to trump voters on facebook if we were to say to democrats. There's this evangelical group that are eighty percent against you the immediate democrat responses. Whoa will never catch them. But taylor republican group. Hey this group of urban black women are ninety four percent against you and they immediately think oh this is six percent for us in other words we are reaching out. They're not they can't because their whole narrative is anyone who disagrees with them. Anyone who disagrees with them as the bad guy. They can't reach out. They can't reach out. Because you're nazis or hateful your horrible. How can they reach out to you. But we don't think that way we just think they're wrong. We can convince them. We can convince anyone who's willing to listen to us. And we're selling something they want. Which is freedom. This is good news guys. I'm telling you this is good news. It's gonna come down the pike. We gotta keep fighting. We can't just relax about it but it is wonderful. Wonderful news that we are turning this narrative around. It's all about the culture. It is all one hundred percent about the culture. We are starting to win. So christmas is coming. The holidays are coming. I know many of you are looking forward to going to the post office and standing on line while people sneeze on you but for those of you. 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It's twenty five percent off all memberships with code election over daily wire dot com slash subscribe. Join the fight folks. Because we're winning. You wanna be in now. I know. I know you're conservative so you don't wanna hear this but there's a little more good news. No no not good news. we're gonna have to. I'm sorry i must i. You know just brace yourself. Brace yourself because there's something else. There's a clinton pollster named mark penn. And he's a clinton bolster okay but he's i've always found him. You know a fairly a lot of these pollsters because they deal with numbers. They're not as dishonest as you think they would. Be there trying to get it right. They clearly messed up. Tremendously the stein. They do not know how to get there. Polls right. I don't believe that that was a conspiracy but but i think they are. They've lost their professions become useless. But here's mark penn a democrat. And here's what he says. He says despite billions of dollars spent on persuasion massive increases in turn out immediately with an agenda and racial unrest. The changes in american voting patterns were miniscule. This is what he's saying about this election. We are one country divided by two parties. The nation is largely moderate practical and driven by common sense over ideology. Most voters prefer compromise on healthcare immigration stimulus other thorny issues that the extremes of the parties have pushed to the limits only twenty four percent of voters identify as liberal while thirty eight percent. Say they're conservative. According to cnn polls another thirty eight percent are moderate despite the widespread publicity given the left since two thousand fourteen a good year for republicans the percentage of self identified liberals declined two points while the share of conservatives increased three points. This is are number. These are real numbers. These are numbers. That mean something that means something is having an effect. I think it's i think it's i think it's the new media so let me ask you this. Here's here's whoopie goldberg. I'm just gonna play a random got. Here's whoopi goldberg. Cut thirteen talking about the gop and the virus nanto at all of this as and when you go into vote in georgia remember. This is the party that then care. If you drop dead crush camp. Clearly they know what has happen and they're not doing it. This is the party. The gop is the party. That doesn't care if you drop dead okay. The percentage of self identified liberals declined two points while the sheriff conservatives increased three points so when you look at the media and you say look what they're doing they're killing us there the taking away votes. They're actually not they have x. with trump's help really they have exposed themselves as completely unreliable. Nobody's looking be goldberg. Who disagrees with her and thinking. Oh yeah that's that's the facts. Those are the facts. Everybody knows who she who she is. All right he says now is still mark bent by now everyone is heard. The president trump did worse than the suburbs and better with minorities than in two thousand sixteen while technically true. The suburban swing occurred before the twenty eighteen midterms in other words. He lost those voters. We know he lost his voice in the mentions. The minority shift was relatively small except for hispanic voters in florida and the border towns of texas. Some surprising findings have been overlooked. Mr trump's margin of victory among white women increased from eleven. To thirteen points was a lot of talk. That suburban white women returning against him doesn't look like they did. This is according to exit polls but examples that have been adjusted but his advantage among white men narrowed from thirty points to twenty three points. That's really i think what happens. Moderate white men turned away from mr biden. Almost all the liberals and mr trump won almost all the conservatives but mr biden expanded the democratic lead among moderates to thirty points from twelve to thousand sixteen. The single most significant change moderate men swung the race biden and this is because of the virus. I think The biden campaign focused on character of character outweighed issues. Mr trump would have lost by twenty points. Democrats did win on remembers democrat. speaking democrats. did win on the virus which was probably what turned the tide. Now listen to this. It is highly significant that in deep blue california two ballot measures to end the constitutional ban on racial preferences by government and to repeal restraints on commercial property tax increases both went down by wide margins. Who told you about this me. That's why that's why you know it's important. The country might have shifted in favor of looser marijuana laws but it doesn't generally favor higher taxes nor has it lost faith in the idea of a post racial society. Of course it hasn't of course it. Hasn't you heard bill maher say this the other day that the left's ideas about race of the ideas of the ku klux klan. Now i celebrate. The bill said it. But we've been saying here for for years right. Racism is racism doesn't matter the devil don't care who does the hating as long as the hating gets done. This is racism straight up this racial theory that they're selling its racism when you bring people in an office and tell them that they have to pay attention to the guy. They're having over for a barbecue and they have to worry about the color of skin. It's racism is not gonna work it just makes people more alienated. They may they may kowtow in the office because they don't wanna lose their job but in the voting booth they're not going to respondents to a not yet released harris poll named. What do you think is the most important american value. What do you think that respondents to a not yet. Released harris poll named as the most important american value free speech. Free speech the speech. That's been censored by jackboots. Dorsey on twitter the speech. That's being censored on the news. The speech that they want to censor the new york times. They wanna get rid of the first amendment. Because it's disinformation and hate speech. Mark penn ads. These are critical signals from the voters. That a new administration can ignore only at it's peril. Let's listen once again to listen to ilhan omar for a second cut twelve to speak about me and every single rally didn't really matter where he was sometimes multiple times in a day as he held his klan rallies throughout the country so she's calling these rallies where tens of thousands of american showed up. She's calling them klan rallies and it's good politics to bring her up is good politics to bring her up just like it's good politics for them to bring up people that they hate and to their people we understand. It is the political game. You know you can't get swept up into the political game. Ilan omar is a district like this big right. She can call all these people. Seventy one million people maybe more who voted for donald trump more than voted for any other president before except joe biden. Right a huge number of people. She can call them clansman. How do you think that's going to play with those moderates. Were just trying to pay attention to what is going on. And you know this is this is really important. I i am a conservative. And the reason i'm a conservative is because i believe in freedom that's freedom is my primary value the right to do think say what i want and keep the money i make because it's my time that goes into making that money. Those are really big values. But i understand. There are other people kinds of people in the world. Women for instance who might value other things they might value security. they might value Equality more than that part of the country to i want the country to look more like my values. Okay but i can work with them. I can't work with socialist. I can't negotiate with communists. I can't negotiate with those people. Those people are a small number of people most of the people in this country and now the numbers approving what. I've always kind of sense. Most of the people in this country we can talk to. We can talk. It's their country to. It's not going to be everything we want. it's not you know. That's part of part of politics is compromise. I will fight and speak as hard as i can and explain why i think freedom is the primary value if the world were perfect place. Would there be a with their be a welfare state probably not because the welfare state is just too much of a temptation to politicians. But even friedrich hayek said you need a welfare state because people are too afraid to be utterly free there too afraid to be free without a wealth without a safety net right so even people who believe like i do in the free market understand that the safety net gives gives the people the confidence they need to stay in the free free market. So we can negotiate. We can talk. This is the this is the way politics work and again and again. I keep saying this. It's the media. It's the academy is the entertainment industry that gets between us and tries to make us hate each other. But there's reason to believe in this election and this election result. There is reason to believe that we don't hate each other and there's reason to believe that our flag is still there and the american people are still where it is best. I guess for them to be which is sent a right. And why do i say it's best for them to be center right when i'm probably a little more right than they are. It's best to be center right because it means that we're all getting all finding a way forward. These people rioting in the streets are bad for the left. The people riding in the streets of bad for the left because americans are still americans. Americans are now a lot more different colors than they were. When i was a kid. But they're still americans and the reason they're still americans is because the american values system is the value system. This is the thing you know. It's like you can't really mess around with freedom and equality before the law. There's kind of the endgame of human thought we haven't gotten we're not gonna come up with some great new. I gotta go right idea. That street black people differently than white people. We've never done that before. That's going to be a great idea. Says the new york times and we've reached the end of this. The end of this is that we're all equal before the law. All equal all maiden god's image. That's the end of the story. So some of these things we've kind of reached gone as far as we can go now yet. Can the country be destroyed. Yes we'll everything ultimately that man makes me mortal. Yes but that doesn't mean that right now we're fighting. Were always fighting for right now and right now. The news is good and all this stuff that they do all the hatred that they've spewed at donald trump. I think like almost everything they shot. Donald trump is gonna come back and hit them right smack in the middle of the far had i have to end. I just have to tell you this story. I i just love another story from the daily beast. A you know this guy madison cawthorn. He's in a wheelchair was in a car a van accident when he was young He is he is north carolina republican and will become the youngest member of congress in history. Here's the daily beast. And he's a devout christian he's an eventual jellicoe. Kristen so the daily madison cawthorn has admitted. He tried to convert jews and muslims to christianity. So i'm wondering how did they get him to admit that like did they have to torture them that the time to slap them around or was it just the fact that he's called and evangelical christian that was like they give away. We've got you madison cawthorn and there were some people. There was some jewish people online. Saying no this is terrible. You know. I think everybody should try to convince everybody everything. What are we afraid of. You know obviously shouldn't be a jerk about it. You should obviously stop when people ask you to stop. But why shouldn't you try to convince people of what you believe. Especially if what you believe in the case of madison cawthorn happens to be the truth and we'll save your soul. I love the fact that they don't know they're so far out of the mainstream the left and they don't know how far they are because the media is with. This is a great advantage to us and you know. Listen the way we win the way we start to spread this is. This is a beachhead. This is not victory. This is a beach at this is now the two armies are now at least fighting with each other as opposed to running and hiding all the time and seeding little bits of the government all the time with our george w bush's and our jabs exclamation point are mitt. Romney's now suddenly. The fight is a little different fight. Looks different. We have people coming to our side because of what we're doing this is how it begins though. We don't wanna get into our own bubble we don't we don't wanna get into our own bubble. We don't want to lie to one another because that's what we want to hear. We want to tell the truth. We want to say why we believe what we believe. We wanna listen to the other side. When they're not being jack asses. We want to listen to them and hear their concerns and try to meet their concerns. There's a lot of stuff to do. There's a lot of work to be done but right at this minute as it looks like i know it looks like the feet and in some ways of defeat. I don't wanna whitewash that. It is a defeat at the at the very top but in some ways this is genuinely a turning point and we have got to start was right. Twenty years ago. When i people they had to pay attention to the culture. I'm right now that we have paid attention to the culture and we're beginning to win. I know it doesn't look like that at the moment but it is long-term. I hate to break the good news to you. Because i know you're conservatives. I know you hate to hear it. We're in a good position is going to get better. If we keep working at it we will the mail back on top of everything else. 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November 17, Hr 3 Weld County Commissioner Scott James and Jared Fiel with CDOT

"This is mornings with kale and northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten kfi k keeping well. It was another spirit conversation between the wealthy kennedy commissioners and democratic governor. Jared polis and jill ryan the executive director of the colorado department of public health and environment. Yeah they had a conference call last week and after the call ended but before the broadcast of the public meeting was stopped. County commissioner barbara kirk. Meyer is heard a challenging. The possibility of weld county going from yellow would stands for concern on the state's covid. Dial two orange which well means high risk you tell her. No commissioner kirk meyers. Heard saying just tell her no well. Commissioner kirk meyer spoke with kyle. Clark and told cayo clark are helped. Her at director brought up the fact that he expected to get a call from the state health department saying they were going to move us meaning well county to the orange level. And that's when. I said you tell her no that. She can't do that until she speaks to. The board of county commissioners which by the way commissioner kirk meyer added is what we thought. This meeting was going to be about ended. Wasn't well needless to say this was after the twenty five minute call ended. Joined this morning by weld. County commissioner. Scott james commissioner james. Welcome back to the show. Never a dull moment and you can say you know my career background. At least i'm not familiar with hot mic moments before my my life and i hope not having again and that'd be being a little bit about that i do it it happened. It's it certainly never our intent To be i you know. I was caught on my saying. It's like a game of poker where nobody nobody play the hand. I was gonna ask. Let me say that. I realized that covert is not a gain or laughing matter but with that being said the entire phone call. We understood it to be. We're going to take weld county to orange on the kobe. Dial and so therefore. We sat there with a level of expectation From the governor and end the director private public health and environment to get to this place where they said okay moving to orange and then we can have an open and collective conversation about how we take on additional mitigation efforts How this changes. If it changes are of course of action and at the end of the call i just i kinda relate because it did feel like i gained a poker in which we didn't play our hand and and so the shooting that you didn't drop so to speak and and that was a little bit a little bit perplexing to me quite frankly and so two to to add even more intriguing. It's it's something that that. I relished and much appreciate it. I did receive a phone call yesterday. Just a personal phone call from the governor. And i think he was rather honestly at how did it feel like a game of poker and he was taking a shot at me taking me out to the woodshed so to speak but he wanted to get to the root of my feeling and so i expressed it. I think he understood that. We acknowledge that we've had hot like moments in in our past. And and how do we move. Forward line is expressed to the governor yesterday and had expressed a mini the enemy. It is the governor's dial it is. It is creation of governor and he has department of public health and environment. It is hers purview. Not our the move ourselves up and down on this dial. Yeah and we've had that conversation before. And you and i were going back and forth setting up the interview this morning via tax to yesterday and i was just kind of previewing our discussion on this. And we've talked about the cova. Dial before and i asked you at one point in time. Where is weld. County on the dial. And you weren't being glib and you weren't being flippant but you simply said i don't know own which doesn't mean you don't know What those levels are on the dial. It's just that well. We're conducting ourselves not apart from the dial that making the decisions as they need to be made. If i understand you correctly yes and blue yellow orange red regardless of dial position. The main message remains the same. On how we mitigate the impacts of kobe socially distance. We frequently like. I mean you've heard it all before and that continues to be the central message especially if we as we go into a holiday week. We mentioned the tabet central message and ever before next about a month. Now i have. Since the beginning of this congress. Back in march i have have requested. The mandate stood on tables and ask for from our own department of public environment tricks data. How do we make decisions. And how do we make that bass in a in a in a metric by which we can we can flip a switch and speak we didn't quote unquote spent a dial i applaud. The governor aren't doing just that with that With the cova dial should come to attach with some reasonable guidelines but when the expectation of enforcement exists with those guidelines and those guidelines have not been properly promulgated process or have they been taken to legislative process. That's when it becomes a bridge too far for me. I think the guidelines are good suggestions. I quite frankly think that businesses individuals should look at how those guidelines apply to their life. Bud for us for for the expectation from the state to be that well county enforces set of guidelines. They put forward without proper promulgation. You see the back and forth. Well and i think it's important as you talk about data and metrics that we have all the data that we're just not looking at the case count. The case now is is no doubt it can't right now. Well county over three day period yesterday reported eight hundred thirty nine cases folks. That should make you 'cause th- that is politics proposed so to speak if i may be so honest but at the same time that is case counts the severity of these cases. As far as having impact are hostels has gone down now. I've had wonderful conversations with a margot at unc nc at uc health. And and they haven't made it clear in no uncertain terms that they are stretching. There seems When you take a look at our our our metric on our our wealth health dot org website. uc trial different hospitals. That are taken into account there but eighty five percents of the hospital beds that are listed on that count on our website are from hospitals outside of our county but of course from where i live in johnstown if i see if i see costco. Don't care i'm going to m cr. It's a matter of convenience that means i skip across the county line. You know you you take a look at Uc health has a nice facility in longmont that is literally on county line road consumers when it comes to their health where don't healthcare read it don't necessarily recognize county lines big whereas convenient for them eight fourteen thirteen ten. Kfi a thirteen ten kfi k. a. dot com joined by weld county. Commissioner scott james. Hey scott could you stick with us for another segment. it'd be pleasure thank you. I wanna know why you said you likened it to a game of poker. I'm interested in that more with weld. County commissioners scott james in just a few eight fifteen now. Thirteen ten kfi k. Thirteen ten kfi. K dot com this time sponsored by the candlelight dinner playhouse dinner theater at its best great shows the lexical dining great value. That's the candlelight dinner playhouse broadway in your backyard visit colorado candlelight dot com for more information patrick the whole show and colin cowherd around northern colorado's voice thirteen ten k. f. k. What the whole sports story in northern colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten kfi k. Eight nineteen now thirteen ten. Kfi a northern colorado's voice as our conversation continues with weld county. Commissioner scott james. All right talking about this conference. Call that you and your fellow. County commissioners had last week with the governor and jill ryan the colorado department of public health and environment out before the call ended. You said it's about exercising choice to protect families. Neighborhoods will join you to reinforce messages of the severity of that situation. Thank you for entrusting the people of weld county to make decisions. That are right for themselves. But after the call ended you also made a reference to Playing poker With no cards in their hands. And i'm just i'm wondering why you chose. That particular analogy like we were waiting. You know are we had had this conversation and there was a build up. There was a build up in your mind. You are expectation of five of us. Our expectation was the governor was going to move us to orange on his dow because quite frankly the metrics indicate that we'd be in the orange category so therefore it was time for governor director The into orange win the call ended and that didn't happen. It's felt like we had played a game of poker and nobody had showed their cards and not an analogy. But it was an analogy. That was brab slipping or glib on my part but he. I i want you to know the build up. I felt during that meeting and ultimately when the call ended we had exchanged in the dressing trees. The guy who had a couple of suggestions but there was never what we expected there to be. Which was i guess. It was dayton confused quite frankly and we just played with anna card and everybody folded all right. And you're probably thinking jeez. Gale an answer. But where. I'm going with this. It was basically a setup mixed question. We have talked at length. Commissioner james About the fact and even the governor himself has said that many the guidelines the restrictions. I might even go as far as the cova. Dial and everything that is associated with that are unenforceable. I'm what i was wondering. If perhaps you were alluding to that with that comment to be honest. No but i continue to agree that these these things are unenforceable. The governor himself has said it so therefore why try to pass it off as a punitive action especially when it has not been properly promulgated or legislative therefore why can't we look at it more from a teamwork situation. I you said it right. The covert guidelines the guidelines. I think it's a good suggestion. I think for people advice on how to run their businesses on how they exercise their conduct. It probably. i think those are good guidelines but when we crossover to enforce sense it becomes a different arena. Weld county has been very clearly. It is not going to enforce an order that has not been properly. Promulgated it is. The governor's dial can move us to the position that he feels appropriate on this dial and he teaches is gonna enforce these orders. We will not now as we see the numbers. Continue to rise Not only in weld county but across the state Larimer county I believe it was friday at eleven pm. passed this New public health order with well Some pretty onerous restrictions due to the rise in cases there and particularly hits restaurants and sports and gyms both of them now doing contact tracing now has that conversation come up among the commissioners not while we continue. Punish our business when it's a community wide. Why do we continue to try to take it out on restaurants and small businesses and then gymnasiums when it's a community widespread again. Here's the bottom line of by your. Your kind list is folks. This is in our community. The same tenants combat as you had a covert combat toolbox in mat. Kobe combat toolbox are face coverings are handwashing are staying home when you're sick Limiting your social contact all these things you can use help mitigates to prove it in your life. We adjust that. I have time i can go down an entire laundry list of things that we continue to do in the well. Candy department of bremen including surveillance and containment and communication. The folks over there are working their tails off. We continue to combat it but it is a partnership and when i talk about personal responsibility i talk about it. The truest jeffersonian frankland citizenship. Kind of of a measure citizenship requires pro. The and we're asking that as you make those decisions. That are right for yourselves mixture. They're also right for your community absolutely because well let me tell you that spark some conversation here yesterday a couple of texts from folks who went to a restaurant in larimer county and we're told That they would have to provide information her contact tracing and both of them said. We're gonna go eat in weld county so again goes to putting the burden on and we've talked about this. How governor jerry polis readily admitting that many of these guidelines are indeed unenforceable making business owners. The mask police and we all understand. Why and i'm not making lights nor you of the seriousness of this pandemic. That isn't the point. But unfortunately i just read a piece that said okay if things get locked down again seventy nine percent of restaurants and this was according to the colorado restaurant owners association. Seventy nine percent of restaurants will never reopen. I have said since the very beginning here are the ways by which we combat this virus. Can we work together in doing so. It is not about conversation that a business has with the government. It's about a conversation that business has with the consumer. Let's at least give them a fighting chance. If you want your favorite restaurant stay but do the right things where the face covering respect. The capacity limits make reservations. Give them a fighting same time. Fight covid give your business a fighting chance now. Where does it stand You did have a very pleasant conversation with the governor. You referenced earlier in the segment. Where does this all stand at this point in time. I mean i'm certain. The conversation will continue. It will continue again. It is is dial chooses. The movers to orange chooses to move a stir to read that is that is certainly his provocative and we will talk about About moving forward from from that point again bell county will not enforce an improv up dated rule or an improperly promulgated order but we will make sure that we develop that communication with our our our folks keep asking. Why don't you do more. Why don't you do more to the bottom line is i. Don't have the authority. We ask that you again in the jeffersonian understanding of citizenship. Stand up and be that good citizen and make sure it gets in your life and your businesses. They help keep those businesses open to help combat covert. It's i hate to say all this thing together. It sounds cloak. It's true all right last question. If the governor does make that decision and changes weld county status on the covert nineteen dial. Two orange heaven forbid to read. Well we we've been down this road before way back when when the governor instituted the safer at home while county had safer at work. What are the consequences for weld county if that happens and well weld. County doesn't at least in the governor's view comply. I don't mean to be glib when i say that. There are no punitive. There are no punitive consequences. But what i can say is this i it gives us an opportunity to reinforce and i orange yellow red green whatever we are on the dial we need to continue to reinforce the right things that we need to do. I am excited. How and concern by two conversations. That i've had with our healthcare providers with dr feinstein at unc. Were dr be. He college with Dr phil at at at district six. It will provide us with an opportunity to stand together as a community and deliberate unified message. And i. at least there's one of five and working towards that right now. Well county commissioner. Scott james pleasure as always. Thank you for your timely input. Well we'll just have to see how it goes on top. You happy happy thanksgiving to you as well. Thanks so much. Well county commissioner. Scott james eight twenty nine now thirteen ten. Kfi a thirteen ten kfi a. dot com all right. We talked a little bit yesterday morning. About the fact that that click it or ticket enforcement period actually began a just a yesterday and got wonder why colorado roads are just as deadly as they were before the pandemic tell you. We're going to check in with cdot region. Four communications manager jared when he joins us at eight thirty five eight thirty now. Thirteen ten k. F k no code now weekdays at four another in colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi one football sicher dialed her kfi here. Nfl games all season long. Northern colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi present on eight thirty seven now on your tuesday morning thirteen ten. Kfi am thirteen. Ten kfi a. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail from the auto collision specialists studios joined this morning as we typically are right around this time of morning on tuesday by jared pyle cdot region poor communications manager. Hey charite will good morning gail how you you. I'm doing. well how about you this morning. You know what just so daddy I i don't people are too upset about our closure we had last night on i twenty five We had some emergency paving that we had to get done right there four. oh two We didn't really have a whole. Lotta time alert folks but Hopefully got cleared out and people didn't get too upset at us. Well you'd certainly no because people tend not to be shy when it comes to blowing social media. That is true thing. Yeah exactly exactly. But you've got that all taking care of yeah yeah. It was Some pavement that was certain to come up and was going to be pretty dangerous if we kept it Going that way so you get fixed and and let's face it. Those things happen. It's interesting because when we have a project like this Technically the road belongs to the contractor during the time of construction and so they are responsible for making sure that those The bathing is good and and even areas where there's normal potholing. They have to be the ones to fix that. So it's kind of an interesting change when you have a project going on to a certain area so but They will yeah. Why do you advocate that power and control on the thirty when they're running the road. That's i mean it's their project. They need to be able to To do what they need to do it. And so the other part of of course because you know. Let's face it sometimes during the construction project. Sometimes there are Loose things that get out and be contract or is the one who needs to be liable for that. That's why that that's why they keep their guys from doing stuff like that so It's kind of a combination of both liability responsibility on on the see. You learn something new every day. He got it exactly now. What about other projects Any other projects ongoing twenty-five well obviously we have lots of work going on. I twenty five right now. We've got a pretty much the entire corridor. There's something going on Know that we've got a lot of work going on Right around thirty four And prospect area i realized. In retrospect i should've said new projects because well that's part of the reality will not twenty five new products new products. Yes we definitely have a lot going on so Getting a lot of people interested in what's going on with it and and knowing that You know the one of the things that i think we've talked about a little bit but that Great western railroad bridge Is is an interesting one. It's going just south of thirty four That bridge has to be widened. Obviously as we're widening. I twenty five so What's what's interesting with. A railroad bridge though is It's actually being manufactured in pieces out of missouri and the pieces are shipped here. They're put together like a giant jigsaw puzzle off line. So it's it's it's off the off the area where the bridges they're gonna put it all together and then basically in one night show into place and it's a fascinating concept. I mean when you think about bridges and everything else yeah We'll obviously have their own Specifications for how they need to do stuff. So that's all being done that way. So it's kind of an interesting concept and they're actually going to be able to do it without interrupting. I twenty five traffic and all. Just get all the puzzle pieces. Because i know whenever i'm putting houses together. Typically i missing critical part of the infrastructure bridge point. Exactly all right so a timeline on for oh too because that is fascinating and i don't you know i was driving past that i'm looking at it. I don't even have the words to describe what's going on other than wow. That's pretty cool so They're getting one side of the bridge done and actually in place. I believe that actually even happened this week. And then the other one is going to be Being put together and should go in the spring so okay all right. Click it or ticket Went into the. i believe. This is the first november enforcement period that went into effect. just yesterday will run through november. Twenty nine th what we need to know. Well i obviously you know when you look at the number of fatalities that we have on the road and you know Last just last year. Fifty four percents of The fatalities that we had on the road where people who were unbuckled. I mean that that just blows my mind and and and and it's really only fourteen percent of the occupants so so you know what you're doing is you're putting your life at risk in the you know. I know there's a lot of people who say well it's my right. I can do what. I want that sort of thing but imagine you get an accident you might just you know accidents happen. That's why we call accidents and you know things can happen out there but imagine you get in an accident Typical you know collision that that would be minor in the whole scheme of things and and even if you're at fault you hit somebody and and the other person isn't belted in and they die. I mean that to me is is you were putting something on someone else and brie your choice and that is just. I can't imagine having to live with that. And i think you know when it's such a simple thing to do is just put you put your seatbelt on and be safe out there So that's why we do this. We that's why we partner up with the state patrol And workout this. And and you know it's just becoming such a problem these days even with the reduced writing still with our covert numbers. I mean we're getting back up regular a little bit but we're getting so many crashes out there and so many fatalities happening at a time when we're reduced traffic is blows my mind and and that's a perfect segue because i had pulled a piece out of well. It's a piece by michael roberts out of westward. And that is the point that the colorado state patrol is making that the pace of these deadly crashes hasn't slowed and you and i've talked about despite the fact of lower traffic volume almost everywhere as a result of covid nineteen. And it's interesting one of the things that i love to borrow from. You is get your head out of your app. wake what is it. Yeah yeah. I get your head out of your. Yeah there you go. But colorado state patrol also provided some of the leading causes of two thousand twenty crashes that resulted in death or injury. The number one cause in attentive driving sixteen point three percent exceeded safe. Legal speed came in at number two impaired driving lane violation crashes and failed to yield a right away rounding out the top five reasons for these crashes well and and you think about you know those people who you know inattentive driving with face at everybody thinks everyone else on the road and attentive. Yeah you know. I mean we're all guilty of it at some point and But but you know the enter inattentive driving a huge concern but you couple that with not wearing a seatbelt and i mean i i mean you're pretty much asking for it and and that's the part that you know it. It's so frustrating because we we put so much time and energy into designing our roads to be safe and the cfp put so much time and energy into trying to patrol the. Make sure that everybody's safe and both of these agencies are the ones who are responding to all of the people who are not safe and that that's where it gets gets to the point where it's actually gets very get it's distressing and and sad but it's also frustrating because right it's like there's so many things we could do to to alleviate that and and here's an idea don't die a tip exactly and it's just it's very frustrating so Yeah i get worked up about it. I know that a lot of our you know. Our maintenance guys are the ones who end up a lot of times rolling up on these accidents or there. The first responders a lot of time and you should be emotional toll. It takes on. These guys is is amazing. I mean you see these guys. Are there big burly dude to all this and they are broken they just you know coming up on a scene where there's a a child or or whatever you know and it just it's brutal and so you know doing your part being safe out. They're paying attention to what's going on the road and wearing your seatbelt. It's it's really not that complicated. And so i know there's a lot of people who get frustrated that you know it's my right to do what i want all that kind of stuff but just like we've talked about with the masks. It is the thing to do just to be safe out there. And let's just all get along when you were talking about that. Being making the comparison about my shorthand for it. Jared is my rights. End where your rights begin. I think we just need to be kind to one. Another and keep that in mind absolutely and i mean you know. It's like with the mask thing but what was seatbelts. You know people say. Oh i have a right to kill myself well but you're flying out of that car you are causing someone else to you. Know you can be endangering other people And and it's so silly. It's it's something you put it across your wasted takes all about a second to do and It's just one of those things that it's been drilled in me so so hardcore and and what's funny is it was drilled into me by my kids more than anything. 'cause they just were used to and like. I couldn't even back out of the driveway till i buckled with my kids and they would. They made sure that i was on it. And so i think we all need to think about that and think about if your kids are in the car with you. And even if they're not let their voices be in your car with you and streamlined. You to put to buckle up before you go. Jared pyle good advice as always see dot region for communications manager. Thanks so much. Always appreciate your insights your back. Yeah you're a great day. You too take good care. Eight forty nine now thirteen ten. Kfi kfi party colorado's force thirteen ten kfi k. A. the block party wednesdays from four ten pm tune into the hall show at noon and no co now at four back to mornings with kale and northern colorado's voice thirteen ten. Kfi am so what happens to that so called a blue wave colorado abbas the question police say eight fifty three now. Thirteen ten k. k. Thirteen ten kfi k. A. dot com northern colorado's voice mornings with gail from the auto collision specialists duty as begging the question does presumptive. A president elect joe biden as he is fond of saying indeed. Have a mandate. Well if you look at the numbers and you clear away. All of the distractions and tune out all the noise as you discover something very interesting about the state of politics in this nation. It's shockingly moderate believe it or not mark penn writing in the wall street journal. Mr penn is managing director of the stag. Wow group chairman of the harris poll. He was a chief. Strategist on bill clinton's nineteen ninety-six presidential campaign. Hillary clinton's two thousand senate campaign and mrs clinton's two thousand eight presidential campaign. Here's what he says. The more things change the more they stay the same or so. It seems in american politics after the electorate returned the democrat establishment to power after rejecting it for rogue outsider. Four years ago the surprise finding the exit polls is that moderates and men provided the crucial swing voters who put joe biden into office but has the american electorate changed well in mr pens rather considered opinion. He says no the answer is right. Smart penn is that despite the billions of dollars spent on persuasion massive increases in turn out a media with a an obvious covert overt agenda. Should say and racial unrest the changes in american voting patterns. We're pretty miniscule. He goes on to write about the fact that we're one country divided by two parties. The nation largely moderate practical driven by common sense over ideology. Most voters prefer compromise on things like healthcare immigration stimulus and other thorny issues that the extremes of the parties have pushed to the limits twenty four percent of voters identify as liberal. Thirty eight percent. Say they're conservative. Another thirty eight percent are moderate and this spite the widespread publicity given the left since two thousand fourteen. Which if you remember by the way was a good year for republicans. The percentage of self identified liberals has actually declined two points while the share of conservatives actually increased by three points. Now it's a rather lengthy piece that. I don't have time to really get into getting do a deep dive on this morning. But he talks about the white share of the vote. Declining from seventy one percent to sixty seven percent latinos grew from eleven percent to thirteen percent electorate actually older with few fewer young adults and more than one in five over sixty five but as mark penn writes in the wall street journal. The more things change the more they stay the same eight fifty seven now. Thirteen ten kfi. Dan patrick the whole show in. Collin cowherd are on northern colorado's voice. Thirteen ten kfi k. A. headlines podcasts mornings anymore and schedule of upcoming sports. Broadcasters find thirteen ten k. F k dot com and lock it right here on thirteen ten kfi k. Don't forget hall's show with your host upgrading brady hall noon to to no cone now of or and keep it here for inside the barest end jason. How coming your way at six rogue code now weekdays at four another in colorado's voice thirteen ten kfi k.

Learning about money and rich people's problems

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Learning about money and rich people's problems

"Learning about money under lockdown apparent working from home simultaneously trying to whom school children. Well you have all sympathies. Bu- this week we will say hope to in spy. This money related activities to live in the lockdown on the money. Show this week my colleague. Lucy worked Ching we'll share wildfires to covertly and overtly get your children interested in learning about money and for those in need of some light relief. We also joined laser by James Max or rich people's problems columnist. He doesn't have young children to Home School. At present his biggest problem is keeping his house clean without the help of his regular cleaner. Welcome to the money. Show the F. Weekly podcast about personal finance and investing. I'm Clip Art F. T. Money editor bringing all of this week's money news. Millions of parents became temporary teaches overnight when the UK wide lockdown came into force at the end of March and schools closed as we wait to find out details this weekend. The government's plans to come out of lockdown. This could yet be a great opportunity to teach your children about money. I'm joined by my colleague Lucy. Warrick Ching who has been rising all about this in the AFC money section this weekend will welcome DC and so the first step that you would devise any parent thinking about teaching children about money on the lock out is thinking about pocket money. Yes so Whether it's a fifty P or won't oh five pounds a week giving pocket. Money can really help your children learn about budgeting as they sought to make decisions of about the rain. Money says no longer their parent's money and then you know them just demanding things. They're able to actually stop thinking about the money they have and what they want to spend on in any finite amount of money that they have say they're gonNA have to make decisions themselves now. Something that parents might not be aware of Ironically seeing as we're talking about cash use being less and less common under lockdown their APPs that parents can control that children can use contactless cards. Attached childress is young as five or six in fact can get one of these and this can be a way of electronically giving them pocket money and we'll say managing they have to earn it. Yes exactly so. If you're sitting there thinking what I didn't have an extra cheap pounds in cash to give my children then you can sign up to one of these. Apps much easier nowadays as like a an go henry with as the money. Aspire Gimme outlay is a range of APPS available and then you can pay money virtually onto the one of these apps and then you can talk about how the monies that she building up take a look and have some visual aids and with your children and see how the money is that she building up. And then you have some control over that money then so it's not just handing over money and then they're going and spending on what they want so at that might appeal to some of me. Well yes I was GONNA say. It's a lovely Fisher of children in the article this weekend. The mobile job to about the mobile jar in a minute but just sticking with these APPs the great thing about them is that you can set chools. Talk around the heightened fear children to do To unlock a payments and the most popular including said it's Arista money which has done big pole is getting your children to tidy their bedrooms and the most popular thing that the children and go on to spend the money on a games like four nights and roadblocks yes vm. You know there's lots more people in their houses making a mess and creating jobs to do and obviously people are not having clean around at the moment. Say This is quite an win win situation so the children want to animal money than particular put them to. He's his emptying the dishwasher Mike. It's both didn't set the table and they and they get mobile. Say it's making it work for you and kids are actually much more interested in say tidying up their bedroom. If they have a financial reward fail is now the currency of choice in the Work Ching household as we have alluded to. You is the mobile. Now this is a much more low. Tech Way linking rewards being earned tennis about how that works. It's good because it's simple and it's visuals so it will say do something and then you'll get a mobile. I mean I may have a much more robust structure in place for rewarding. Mobile's at the medicine dressed. And then you get a mobile but at the moment I'm imagining that lots of people up and down the country having the same thing was soon as they get bored. My children say Mommy. Can you order this Amazon and crazy? So now we're saying look your mobile jar and then you might be able to talk about getting this thing that you've seen on a youtube video. So actually they are understanding the value of things a lot more and it takes a lot of work at up this mobile jaws say. I'm thinking that they will perhaps think twice about getting the thing that they wanted on a whim and Monday Wednesday filled up and mobile job by the Saturday. And all you say threatening lacey so remove marbles from the mobile in the event of bad behavior of course and it's actually remarkable. How well that works so yes I mean even just the threat of removing them tends to make my children who are six and full. Listen and twice about what they believe. Oh I think this could. Well be one of the use episodes of the money for cost ever recorded for some parents. Lots of other games. Of course that children can play monopoly. Being on the older children might quite like you can say Gamma Phi pretty much anything within the haven. Your suggestions is getting children more involved in the household budget things like food shopping and just noting down the price of things and what they coast. Yes in this environment. It's maybe more about the kind of online shopping. But if you may be give them say ten pounds older children that you save right where you can be in control of say getting the fruit that we need and said get them thinking about say. They buy lots of Bananas. Than they might not have enough money to buy the pineapple they wanted but is just getting them thinking about the household budget. And perhaps you could even say get them to find a better deal on utility bills. Lots of people are starting to think about how much money they spend on new energy bills mobile fans. And if you've got older children you might sit down in front of a comparison sites and say can you save some money and then perhaps off to share those savings with them so that gives them an incentive to do that research another absolutely brilliant idea now another thing that families could do unto lockdown is some try and tackle outstanding financial paintwork. Now I've already been scouring or House on the lockdown for various old documents For things to do tax is next on my agenda. Finding old savings accounts particularly things to do with the child trust funds which coming of age children who are about reach their eighteenth birthday could actually be quite profitable laxity families. Yes I mean. They think that people have on that to do list and they constantly thinking you know we need to sort this out. We all we get. The best returns are geniuses. Should switch outs for child trust fund. This may be the time to do it but also to sit down and talk to your children about. Perhaps the money in edgy new. I said and kind of explain to them how this has been building up and perhaps talked about what they might want to do that money so you may set aside fina vanity but just show them how it's been building up and then they might start to get interested in that money is doing and also if you've got a investment so an equity junior. Eissa maybe talk to him about what you've been putting money into an awesome. What they're interested in what companies they might think is doing typically well under lockdown say. Amerson saying as price go up so some about that and make it really kind of hands on an and relevant to them because children really respond to things that they can relate to. So as you're saying about the Games make as interesting as possible. And then they might want to be involved in a We're doing a family. Zoom Quiz slice wrong one of our friends children's turning sixteen under lockdown fit of a rubbish time to have a birthday but we will come up with a round for the quiz and because he's interested in starting his. I'm business I've come up with the business and finance round. Of course one of the things I've done is to get people to guess what company share price has risen the maced under lockdown. Is it Amazon? Is it net flicks and equally which company SHARE PRICE? Has Phoolan the furthest in a loser? Img The parent company British Airways Roya. Nah an also shell and be peace so it'll be interesting to see what they will guess but equally it's just like another way of getting children invoked because there really are very interested in money it's just about finding the case it is a great idea and then obi suggesting that say that have friends of mine with the Children Earth about how they teach their. It's about winning. Yes we'll have case. We work out with the percentages later on the markets close with my calculator which could be another great mastic. Well thanks ever so much there to Lucy watching you can read her splendiforous feature teaching your children about money. Onto lockdown is in the NFC money section of the newspaper this Saturday. If you're an online subscribe you can read it now. Ft DOT com slash money and a heads up for next week. We've got a column coming in from Bobby. -sego a mess genius. He's GonNa be rising about national numeracy day which takes place next Wednesday and he'll be joining me on the money show podcast until about ways. The adults and children could boost than numeracy skills. I'll second yesterday has around the different set of problems under lockdown namely trying to keep his house clean without professional help. I speak of course of James Max rich people's problems columnists and he joins me now the mind. Welcome to the podcast James. Well thank you very much in a new way of working in which we will save ourselves loads of time and stop the messing about. We'll yes but you have been creating coin to lots of mess inside your homes did. There's no denying but when you are used to living your life in a certain way and dare I say having people pick for you and then suddenly they not picking up for you. You realize what a terrible mess you make. And if you're in your house all the time which I suppose we will allow a lot of mess. We make a new things got so dusty dogs which is kind of adding to the problems at this is true and the thing is about the dogs we actually restrict them in terms of where they can go in the House on the basis. That I think even before they are the handful for the have you like to refer them Used to get very upset about the fact that I wasn't ready particularly bullet about my dog on a bed and I think when said dog had had on pillow and it wasn't my dealer that was the end so they restricted in their house movements but still the amount of stuff they bring in most of the beach or outside or anything else and things that they were and the Digitized ended resigned bit. How yes I should say for anyone thinking Human Bob Bagels who actually infringing on C. Well I it is the new. Bombay does obviously because The something's been shot. Ning wasn't whether it was like this except in lockdown. Now it's on North Essex Coast. Now one of the reasons that we've got away frankly with getting this into the plus will finance section If the FCC because lots of people me included still paying ugliness under look down even though they can't come. I think it's the right thing to do. And we're having Steve Cleaning ourselves now. I've only recently acquired a cleaner in the last few years. But you claim in your column a hem so probably never taken the been out feel self since you were a child. James Max while sometimes as a little bit about cystic license. In these things obviously thingies. I'll admit to on a little bit more domesticated than you might imagine that having been said I try and avoid doing domestic Like I enjoy the wiping and cleaning of a surface. I don't particularly enjoy vacuuming and things. I don't mind I'll do it bins out. Hey during the blooming bins after that and Cleaning shows in firms is okay and bogues okay awning and changing sheets on a nut. An outright night will impact. You had a bit of a battle with the king-sized He covers you. Relate in your column well yes and. I'm very pleased that I seem to have been sent very extensive up particularly via the emails from one or two listeners. Who are concerned. That don't seem to have a technique full this up but for me. The only way to do it is calm. Bring in it because there's nothing worse than do hasn't quite reached the corner of of do van. If you've got a super king do vague which I do and a super king duvet cover which I also do getting the right. Bits in the right. All's in the right it's a terrible shambles and I was end up in the Midwest sweaty mess by the Dhamma finish so I try to avoid it. Well I've I've had to modify our Devi. Changing approach by rising bottom in Mark Penn on the bottom of the DVD. Because the anyone with a CPA king size diva will know that they're pretty much a square It's very hard for the northeast to work out which bit goes without having like a kind of baggy bits of fooling over the side and nobody likes baggy bits. They but on the subject of Hoover's vacuum cleaners. Should I say you mentioned that? You'd calls more of a mess emptying your dyson who've and had to then who've retool up again and this has prompted. All kinds of threes is to have a debase online about. What's the best who will exactly? I love the fact that we call them who've as even though call since the hoover debacle when they tried to give away line tickets source and since they're trying to give away airline tickets went bust then. Suddenly we started to use a different thing in the became. Deng cynic but listening doesn't sound so much fun anyway. So dyson was the the must have vacuum cleaner because of its strong suction and Olas and then people on online. And I've had many comments on on the comments section saying that's very well donaldson is is it historic flash. You need to go for something. Cool to shock yeah. My friends attest that sharks are brilliant. I've gotTA Henry Passing I find joy do have Henry as well for an emergency. I love you have more than one. The different tasks that in your calling me will say have been rising about the other proceeds the wealthy normally to suit named eating in restaurants out. Salonpas eccentric etc. You can't do that anymore. But you've been coming up with some mobile work arounds of ways. You can still enjoy yourself. Under lockdown listens may wish to emulates. Oh absolutely so. What we've done is that We don't call Friday find animal. It's made for the neighbors for drink online day and so we'll do a sort of catch up because although we might catch up shouting at each other across the right away each other during the week. Of course we're not able to do the social stuff that we might normally do so well sit down. Whether it's six six will have different bottles of things and Some snacks abyss basis. Mo- catch up but then during the course of that then come up with other ideas of things that we're doing so for example looking ahead With doing specially themed V Day Quiz To make sure that we can do that. But we've been having online quizzes we've had online Bingo Where we've even had brightest so I don't know whether this breaks the rules but we got some bronzes and wrap them up and put them on. The neighbors doorstep probably left for a couple days to remove any coronas of them and then had some. Bingo cards. I printed off Tim. Net and I have a Bingo randomized. The APP that allows me to draw the numbers and a list of numbers in front of me. Laminated and off. We go and my goodness may be very positive. Well I can quite imagine. Now we're going to break off now because you're GonNa do a live. Qna WITHOUT TV's only after DOT COM website. If you want to read that will the results of readers quizzing James Max. About is domestic habits on on money homepage after he sounds all wrong. 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The View from the White House

Article II: Inside Impeachment

17:02 min | 1 year ago

The View from the White House

"Pennsylvania it's great to be back in this state that gave us the Liberty Bell Pennsylvania. Still Hershey chocolate. I like her. She's from from. NBC News Article Two inside impeachment. I'm Steve Kornacki. Today is Wednesday December eleventh. And here's what's happening. The impeachment hoaxes about overturning. Overturning your great two thousand sixteen or the alternative trying to win the two thousand twenty election. That's not gonNA happen happen. President trump is facing two articles of impeachment abusive power and obstruction of Congress. Do Flimsy pathetic ridiculous articles of impeachment last night just hours. After those charges were announced he took to the stage in Pennsylvania to rally his supporters. The congressional congressional Democrats are pushing the impeachment which having to do with Ukraine. This is the lightest weakest impeachment. Your countries had actually many impeach. You call judges and lots of many pitches but it was on today. Everybody's a fizzes impeachment late today. An article too we are asking what is the White House's strategy unimpeachable and when it comes to the president is his defense working Shannon petty pieces of senior White House this reporter for NBC News Shannon. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me so we have been talking for weeks now really months now about the impeachment of Donald Trump. Let's look closer at trump trump himself. His White House how he is handling all of this. He was in Hershey Pennsylvania last night chocolate capital of the world but I think when it comes to politics obviously Pennsylvania critical state in two thousand twenty one. That trump narrowly won in two thousand. Sixteen it's one. He's going to need to win again if he's GonNa get re-elected so on the same day that Democrats credits are formalizing these articles of impeachment against him trump is talking to a rally in Pennsylvania. What's he saying to them? He gave a pretty full throated. Defense of himself ALF. As well as ripping everyone involved in this process he at these rallies kind of goes through an area stark enemies list from Adam shifts like like shifty shifty. Here's a corrupt politician to Nancy. Pelosi is totally lost control to the whistle blower the whistle so blower defrauded our country because he throws one enemy after another at the audience and it is a bit of red the meat to the base but of course it's also a way for him to sort of get some things off his chest and you went on for about five minutes at this rally last night and I think that's maybe a little bit more. Then we get from him focused on peach men and it was really the only time we heard from the president yesterday and so he certainly did take that moment to give his full throated rebuttal rebuttal to what the Democrats had laid out you know. I wonder if there's a strategy behind holding a rally like this on a night like last night. Is there a strategic. TJ element here where trump in the White House WanNa put him in an arena of ten thousand members of the Republican base. Who are just cheering along shouting along? Long enjoying everything he saying about this sort of delivering a message to Republican elected officials. Have Hey remember the base is behind me. You don't WanNa Cross them exactly well in the early days of this impeachment inquiry when I talked to his advisers. What are you thinking? Are you nervous. Could this be end. They said well watch what happens to Republican Republican support. Even as numbers came out showing about half of Americans were supportive of this impeachment inquiry once they saw that Republicans support holding up. They said Ed does okay. I think we're GONNA be all right. There's not going to be a mutiny in Congress in the Senate because those Republicans will see if they want to avoid a primary. They're going to have to stick sick behind this president and I think he's continuing to do that in these rallies like you said are great example to reaffirm that he can fill a twenty thousand person stadiums in major cities including major democratic cities like Minneapolis for example where he was about a month or two ago. So that's definitely a side benefit of these things. It's interesting resting to to watch trump right now handling all of this because we have a president who was in his shoes in the same shoes basically at this exact time twenty one years ago. It was this same week. In December nineteen ninety eight at the House of Representatives was poised to impeach. Bill Clinton Clinton had a different way of handling it in public talk a little bit about comparisons between what Clinton was doing and and what effect it was having versus what trump's doing now get. It was a completely different way. I've talked to a number of people who are involved in that period with Clinton and who came up behind that strategy and they said really key to it was keeping Clinton out of impeachment Peach Mint as much as it might have bothered him personally. Behind the scenes in public he appeared to be president who was working hard on behalf of the the American people that was the image that they tried really hard to put in front that he couldn't be distracted by impeachment. He had real things to deal with. He had the economy and jobs and all the other foreign policy issues that come with being president and impeachment was just a a silly little thing that was being done by the Republicans now of course he did address his accusations and his impeachment at very key specific moments but on a daily basis he sought to stay out of the the fray and look presidential and Republicans and Democrats credit that strategy with helping Clinton get through the process where his approval approval rating went up to sixty percent seventy percent at one point. He left office as one of the most popular presidents they give that credit to the strategy. Strategy and Lindsey Graham was even one of those to give credit to this I think one of the reasons that he survived is that the public may not have liked what the president had done but believed that he was still able to do his job and as he governed during impeachment. I think that was probably the single best thing. He did. Quite frankly to to avoid and it also helps it backfire on the publicans because it made it look like the Republicans. Were not focused on the issues. That matter to people and were carrying on with you know what they tried to portray as just silliness inside the beltway behavior. One of the other other contrast to between Clinton and trump is what was going on behind the scenes is Clinton had sort of for lack of a better term a war council around him and impeachment appeasement war-council trump is really the single soul shaper of strategy for this White House. Trump actually said to us I forget which reporters specifically typically asked but it was one of those days when he's heading off to the helicopter and someone asked him. Are you going to build a war room or are you know. Are you going to be adding staff to help with impeachment. And he said I the an the team that I don't have teams everyone's talking about I'm the team. I did nothing wrong. Of course that fits in with this bigger theme. We've seen of his presidency. Let's see where he is his own communication director. He is his own. You know chief of Staff is own. Political Adviser doesn't think he needs a big staff around him but yeah Clinton learn how to very formal war room. They had a lawyer inside the White House who was solely focused on and peach men who acted as the quarterback who reviewed you'd messaging and talking points that went out of the surrogates and the circuits Clinton had were very few. It was James Carville and Lanny Davis for the most part and those two were able to have a very coordinated sharp message backed up by the facts backed up by the lawyers but it was organized denies and strategize and focused. And we've seen something much different in the trump White House I've seen some reporting here potentially interesting common link between Clinton and trump and that is somebody that trump apparently met with a couple of weeks ago who was instrumental in advising Clinton in ninety eight ninety nine. who was that what can you? What can you tell us about that? Mark Penn former Clinton adviser came into the White House to talk about this strategy that Clinton used and the trump White House is well aware of what what Clinton did how their strategy played out. They have received this advice of keep focused on being presidential. Don't look like you're distracted and pulled down by impeachment impeachment but like so much of the advice. People have given trump throughout his presidency whether it's his national security advisers or his allies in Congress he just I has a way of doing it his way and making his own call at the end of the day about how he's going to do it and he seems to be carried through with that she in an Alaska to stay put for week. Second where we take this break back in just a minute. Hey It's Chris as you know. Sometimes it's good to just take a step back from the day to day onslaught of news and take our broader broader. Look at the issues. That's what I'm doing each week. My podcast why is this happening. Were exploring topics ranging from school segregation to climate change. Well the way that I think it is climate change to the twentieth century. What maternity was to the nineteenth century? It'll be the central subject of questions about economic justice. Everything you care about in the world will be affected by climate and digging in deep with guests uniquely qualified to analyze issues from mass incarceration to race relations as you know for the first time in our history at the national level whites are on the verge of losing their majority status in twenty years. And I think it's no coincidence that our politics park getting more tribal. Join me for wise's happening new episodes every Tuesday. Wherever you get your podcasts Let's talk about where things go from here. The articles of Impeachment Democrats McRae are are introducing here two articles of impeachment to charges abuse of power obstruction of Congress. We did not see the White House. Play a formal role in these committee. Hearings brings they were offered one the declined it. Will there be a specific White House defense on these two charges. The Senate is where they are expecting vaccine to really be able to lay out their case part of that is just by the very nature of how the Senate trial works and we don't have all the procedures details details on what's going to happen on. The Senate side laid out yet. But as we've seen in past impeachments the president's lawyers will have an opportunity to stand in front of the Senate and make their very clear concise case like it works in a criminal trial. That's where we should see. A more clear case from. The White House is coming to shape. You're getting into some interesting territory here too because there. Is this question out there about. If this zooming does get to the Senate the Senate has to have a trial. Republicans Publican's of course control the Senate Mitch McConnell the Senate Majority Leader on the one hand. Here he is the leader of the Republican Party in the Senate on the other hand he sort of has control troll of the entire Senate the entire chamber the entire institution. How is he balancing those two? Those two roles right. I mean obviously is not a supporter of of impeachment and has a very strong supporter of the president. He has not been as big a defender of the president's. S Some members of the Senate Lindsey Graham for example. Paul and. I'm told that part of that is that he has to do a bit of a balancing act here where the way that the impeachment is designed for the Senate. The senators are supposed to be the jurors. Now I've been told by people who talked to his office and and other senators involved in this process that you know they feel the house process looked very partisan and they would like it although it's a difficult to fully imagine this being possible but they would like it to sort of look like a non-partisan process in the Senate or at least not have it looked like quote unquote Oh kangaroo court show trial to of course then give some legitimacy to the outcome which presumably will be the president being acquitted so in order for that that to really look like the acquittal was done in a serious thoughtful process McConnell and other senators are trying to stay out of the the the daily fray of impeachment this is a obviously a noteworthy week in Washington to put it mildly. Not just because this is the week the Democrats Put to put forward the articles of impeachment. They're going to bring against the president but also because on the same day that Democrats did that there was arguably the biggest bipartisan artisan legislative breakthrough that there has been for the entire trump presidency basically three years now this on the US MCA the United States. Mexico Canada trade agreement sort of of an update of the NAFTA agreement from generation ago. The timing of that is so fascinating to folks because this gives at least potentially trump's something legislatively to brag about. What's going on there? That was maybe one of the biggest whiplash moments of the past three years. There's been so many but that that that was quite remarkable to see her with an hour of each other announce articles of impeachment. And then come out and say oh by the way you remember that guy. We were impeaching. Well we just reached a deal with him but for trump it does give him a really strong talking point. This was one of the main campaign promises he made. Unlike those politicians all additions I keep my promises. Trump advisor feel like this is one of their strongest arguments. Is that unlike every other politician in the history the world trump actually did what he said he was going to do. He didn't get into office and do what the lobbyist of the special interest told him to do. He stuck to what he said he was going to do. And he got it done and they have a whole motto. Promises made promises kept so it is a very big win for him and he doesn't have that many other than the tax bill. I'd say this is the second most significant legislative achievement. He has at that rally last night to the president. Also making the claim that hey this whole impeachment thing. It's only only making me stronger. Poll numbers have gone through the roof. Because stupid when you look at the polls on this it's it's much more complicated picture. Then he's painting. We've we've certainly seen before but I I. It's not clear to me. I have to say looking at the polls that either side is benefiting right now i. I wonder when you when you talk to people kind of behind the scenes on both sides of this do they each feel like yeah. The politics of this are going to work for us are they. Both apprehensive is one more confident than the other. What you pick up on when they're when they're sort of not being quoted for the record? Well I mean I will say I talk a lot. More to Republicans than people on trump than Democrats. But I certainly was just having a conversation with the the democratic strategists today who was touting some poll numbers they had in battleground states and then yesterday of course I was talking to someone on the trump side who who is touting their numbers in battleground states so everybody seems to have their own version of reality. Whether it's idee reported the Miller report or poll numbers everybody. Everybody seems to have their own version that fits their narrative but when I talked to those involved with the campaign about what are you looking for in the poll numbers. They have a sense that everybody's basically chosen their sides so there is a sense that this election like twenty sixteen is GonNa come down to the margins. It's GONNA come down to turn out it's GONNA to come down to mobilizing certain groups D mobilizing other groups. It's going to have a lot to do with who their opponent is. I think there's a general level of optimism in trump world. But they do feel like it will come down to a few thousand votes in Florida that we won't know how it's going to go until the night before before the election. It's a fascinating possibility that I guess kind of fits in with this polarized era. We're always talking about the possibility you could have. In impeachment of a President United States and he emerges politically not strengthened or weakened. Just just sort of the same after actually going through impeachment and then it comes down as you say to another election here we are again Tena Petty Senior White House reporter for NBC News. Thanks for joining us. Thank you tonight. The House Judiciary Committee meets to start debating amending ending. Those two articles of impeachment process will continue Thursday morning in. The committee is scheduled to vote on the articles by the end of the day. Article Michael to inside impeachment is produced by Isabel. Angel Max Jacobs Clear Tie Erin Dolton Creepy Vardhan Alison Bailey. Adam Nebo Imbaba Rab. Our Executive Producer user is Ellen. Franken Steve Lick the executive producer of audio. I'm Steve Kornacki will be back on Friday.

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Impeachment and War

Article II: Inside Impeachment

20:45 min | 1 year ago

Impeachment and War

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NBC Stamps Dot Com Promo Code NBC STAMPS DOT Com never go to the post office again from NBC News. This is article two inside impeachment. Steve Kornacki today is Monday January sixth. And here's what's happening Congress. I returns to Washington today. Situation in the Middle East is expected to sake centerstage. We do not seek war we do not seek nation building. We do not seek regime change but as president I will never hesitate to defend the safety of the American people you leap last last week. President trump authorized a strike to kill Iranian General Qassem Suleimani after being consumed by impeachment proceedings for months Washington. Now faces another major Peter. Decision take a Pelosi announcing last night that the house will vote on a war powers resolution this week taking its first step to limit exactly acting what actions the president can take when it comes to Iran. There will be a new debate on Capitol Hill this week about the President Authority to order such a strike. This is is all unfolding as impeachment remains stalled the House of Representatives still hasn't sent over those two articles of impeachment to the Senate to allow a trial to begin. It's a new year and a new set of challenges for Congress today an article to wear asking. How is Congress Juggling these two responsibilities the power to impeach and the power to check the president when it comes to acts of war mark? Murray is a senior political editor. Here at NBC. We see mark. Thanks for coming on the PODCAST. Hey Steve thanks so much for having me so we have been talking about all of Washington sort of being transfixed by the impeachment drama the last few months and now As we have this whole dispute over whether and how a Senate trial may play out suddenly comes this major foreign policy news the killing late last week of Qassem Soleimani General Qassem Sola money one of the most powerful one of the most well known figures in Iran the head of the coulds forces there also the head head of a sort of informal but powerful terrorist network. That's how the United States has looked at him for years. He was killed in a drone attack late last week. Now now there is talk from Congress specifically the House of Representatives about a possible legislative response to this Nancy Pelosi talking about introducing a the war powers resolution. Take us through. What Pelosi is is talking about the house potentially doing here? So what Pelosi is saying is that it should be Congress and the House of Representatives that if the the trump administration wants to take action against Iran it actually has to declare war and Congress has a role there in the legislation that she's considering and Senator Tim Cain has companion legislation in the United States. Senate is that if no further. Congressional action is taken the administration's military hostilities to Iran. Knee deceased within thirty days and so that is the legislation that she's taking but you know it's really striking to me. The Pelosi wants to take this action as those articles of impeachment impeachment are dangling and still have been sent to the US Senate. There's a potentially major dispute here then as you're sort of outlining between the legislative branch and the executive branch when it comes to this because this administration the Obama Administration the George W Bush administration. Three administrations going back. Basically two decades now could could point to these two resolutions that Congress passed all the way back in two thousand one two thousand and two one was just days after nine eleven sort of declared the global war on terrorism. The other in two thousand two that set the stage for the war in Iraq. Those resolutions were adopted by Congress. They are still active and it administration in in this case. The trump administration in previous years Obama and Bush can try to invoke them for sorts of things like this. Yeah in Steve. The shorthand here is that the executive branch and that is the trump administration wherever president holds the Administration Has Really Important Authority empowers when it comes to exercising military action on foreign policy and of course even one other example during the Obama administration when it came to potentially striking Syria after that chemical weapons attack. Then President Barack Iraq Obama went to Congress and said. Hey I want you guys to authorize me. Taking action in Congress wouldn't even step up to the plate and so they've actually seated a lot of territory story here and that is going to make Nancy Pelosi's job very difficult to be able to pass this. How much oxygen on Capitol Hill do you think? This debate is going to take up in in the days and weeks ahead. A lot of it depends on if we continued end up getting really big developments. The impeachment story has dominated Washington politics over the last three three and a half months in fact during the trump presidency. I'd argue. I don't think that there's been a single event that has really dominated the headlines and the daily back and forth the way impeachment impeachment in the Ukraine. Have but this story and now we've actually had a week long events on. This has really taken a lot of the thunder from the impeachment story and is almost relegated to the back burner and then even put the twenty twenty presidential campaign on the back back back burner and I do think it really signals the potency of this escalation in hostilities with Iran. But a lot of it depends on what ends up happening in the days. Maybe weeks ahead. I wonder to the Democrats in the house. One of the impeachment charges was the obstruction of Congress. And you have obviously Democrats out there saying hey trump needed to consult us on this saying he needed authorization for this and then you had the president actually going on twitter over the weekend in saying let this tweet serve as my notice to Congress that I have the right to do this in terms of Democrats if not the formal impeachment case that they're making but in terms of the argument behind their push impeachment for the political argument behind it. Do these two two things go together saying hey you know we charged him with obstruction of Congress. And look how he's treating Congress here for some Democrats certainly does Ro Khanna. The Democratic Congressman from California -Fornia was just on today saying that this could be an impeachable events he would be again violating the constitution by disregarding Congress Congress and it's illegal it's frankly and other impeachable offense for him to continue an escalation without Congress's authorization in while I do. Do you think that's an argument. That many of the more progressive and other liberal leaning Democratic members of Congress might be making. I'm not necessarily sure that you're going to end up. Having the two hundred and twenty ninety nine two hundred and thirty votes that we saw Democrats pass with their two articles of impeachment because a lot of the moderate democratic members. Probably WANNA keep. This is is narrow as possible and of course that was the strategy that Nancy Pelosi had from the outset and so while there might be Democrats like Ro Khanna who won a wide in this I do you think that those kind of Democrats who pass this. Who are responsible for there? Being a majority probably won't go along with it. It also seems to mark that that Republicans lukens see an opportunity to connect the this development with Iran to their political arguments when it comes to impeachment in in basically to try to make the case that. Hey you know while Congress congress is is dealing with this This dispute over Ukraine. There are much bigger fish to FRY. Yeah the argument. The Republicans are GonNa make is look. Trump is trying to go after terrorists. Like General Sola Mani and Democrats just want to impeach the president. And you're hindering the presence ability to go after Iran go rafters potential terrorists. Someone like Steve Scalise the number two house. Republican made that very argument. I think it just goes to show. There's some people in Washington right now. That are so concerned about their own political agenda their own political power that they'll criticize a move. That's good for America and good for freedom. Read them all around the world and you're going to hear from Republicans do the same mark. We're GONNA take a quick break here but we'll be right back. Hey It's Chris as you know sometimes it's good to just take a step back from the day-to-day onslaught of news and take our broader. Look at the issues. That's what I'm doing each week. My podcast podcast. Why is this happening? We're exploring topics ranging from school segregation to climate change. The way that I think of it is climate change will be to the twentieth century. What Madeira not west of the nineteenth eighteenth century? It'll be the central subject of questions about economic justice. Everything you care about. The world will be affected by climate and digging deep with guests uniquely qualified to analyze issues news from mass incarceration to race relations. As you know for the first time in our history at the national level whites are on the verge of losing their majority status in twenty years and I think it's no coincidence that our politics are getting more tribal. Join me for wise is happening new episodes every Tuesday. Wherever you get your podcasts? ooh Ooh so mark one thing we've heard from a few Democrats. I think over the weekend and and again into the early part of this week. Now we're hearing as well as in attempt. It seems to say or at least to suggest a hint around the idea that trump made this decision with Iran because of or in some relationship ship with impeachment that there was a connection there being impeached. And maybe this is a distraction Maybe this is an attempt by him to distract from that to change. The subject of Warren was on meet the press crush on Sunday. She seemed to be hinting around that. I think the question people reasonably ask is next week. Donald trump faces the start potentially of an impeachment trial and wine. Now I think people are starting to ask. Why now did he do this? This is this something you can expect to be hearing from Democrats sort of on a concerted level here. Yeah it's the wag the dog theory and we've heard this type of theory from then civilian Villian Donald Trump on twitter back in two thousand eleven two thousand twelve or he ended up saying that maybe an Iran attack would help Barack Obama's reelection election chances. Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He's weak and he's ineffective so the only way he figures that he's going to get reelected and assures you sitting. There is to start a war with Iran. Now I'm more militant and more militaristic than the President I believe in strength but to start a war in order to get elected and I believe that's going to happen would would be an outrage. This is something that Donald trump is even familiar with. But I've heard three different arguments. Actually all of them could end up being true on the one hand the the administration says that there was an imminent threat and that the trump administration needed to take action against Iran reason. Number two was the president was is furious about the protests that he saw from iranian-backed groups protesting the US embassy in Iraq. Then the third is that it is the wag the dog. This is all about a distraction. And I think that you could actually make it plausible argument that all three things could be true at the same time you you mentioned wag the dog. Of course some folks might remember. That movie came out just as the Lewinsky. Clinton scandal was breaking. got a lot of attention As having some potential you'll parallels there and then as the House of Representatives in in December nineteen ninety eight was voting to impeach Bill Clinton literally at the same time Clinton launched operation Russian Desert Fox those airstrikes in Iraq. The impeachment debate postponed today because of the war will begin tomorrow morning but as NBC's Claire Shipman tells us now now the president insists. He's worried only about Iraq by Tom. Republicans are now saying that even if the attacks go on. They're ready to start the impeachment debate debate tomorrow but aides here insist that the president has been almost single mindedly focused on Iraq from that moment early yesterday morning when he told his military team. We have no choice but to attack. There were obviously some Republicans back then. who were saying? That was a wag. The dog tactic that Clinton was using their of course Clinton vehemently denied nine that. I'm curious though. Are there political lessons. About how those events. The impeachment the International Crisis How those events were paired twenty years ago. Are there political lessons. We could Z.. Today from a similar situation well there's one similarity that makes me go A little bit and that is that Mark Penn has been giving political advice to Donald Trump. We it's been reported that penman that meeting with trump a few weeks ago and of course. Marc Pen was one of Bill Clinton's top advisers for his reelection campaign but also even afterwards words on impeachment and one of the arguments that you often end up. Hearing from people who advised Bill Clinton was it was important to compartmentalize impeachment to act like the president. It was doing other things other than being consumed by impeachment and of course president trump has really been consumed by impeachment. His twitter feed tells us that. But this is a way even if you didn't want to kind of wag the dog theories that here is the president taking bold decisive action and not letting impeachment getting in his way and again again. There's the the question hovering over all this when it comes to impeachment is when I say win win or if Nancy Pelosi Democrats are going to send those formal articles of impeachment at the House. Passed over to the Senate these past before Christmas And they've been sitting there. What is your sense of the timing on that and how Democrats are feeling about it right now? It's still to be determined. The clock is ticking. I think there was a sense that the House of Representatives and Congress had to get back from its holiday break before they ended up deciding what to do those articles of impeachment. But again the fact that you end up having Nancy Pelosi considering war powers legislation instead of moving these articles impeachment teach me to the United States Senate as its first act does a little bit minimize the urgency from Democrats saying. Hey this is a really big deal. If this is a big deal on impeaching teaching the United States is if the president took this historic action that mandated him being impeached by the House that he was interfering in the United States election. If if they aren't sending this right away to the Senate that Republicans are allowed to say see. This wasn't that big of a deal after all that. The there is no urgency coming from Nancy Pelosi but on on the other hand you're GONNA end up hearing Democrats saying that. Maybe we ended up extracting a victory from this type of delay. John Bolton who was president trump's national security purity adviser just put out a statement on Monday morning ended up saying that he would indepth testifying in a Senate trial if he is subpoenaed to do so Democrats. Democrats are ended up saying that had Nancy Pelosi not kind of held that leverage. Maybe you want an end up seeing a statement like that from John Bolton. Yeah I'm I'm going to. I'm curious about the Bolton thing because I'm hearing different theories about this obviously surprised a lot of people that he came out and said this One version of it one theory. That's out there is. He's doing this for show kind kind of knowing kind of expecting that Mitch. McConnell and the Republicans in the Senate are not going to subpoena him so he gets credit in the court of public opinion. At least from some quarters for saying he'd be willing to do this without ever actually having to do it And there are other saying this is this is potentially something that could scramble the political calculations on this sense of that. Yeah I I steve. I think you laid out the two really good arguments in the ones that the Democrats are going to be making his. Hey Look John. Bolton is willing to testify. Shouldn't we be able to hear from witnesses. And that's what Democrats are wanting to negotiate with Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell but I do think that you ended up laying out a pretty good argument for John Bolton to on being able to kind of hedge bats a little bit and I don't necessarily think this is a watershed moment in whether or not you're GONNA end up hearing witnesses but Democrats. I think as of right right now have a little bit more powerful argument to say like. Hey John Bolton wants to say something let let him say something and if he doesn't and you keep him from doing it the maybe you are trying to cover up some kind of wrongdoing. The trump administration committed one final question on the on the politics of this. There used to be this term. The rally around the flag effect eighteen president would would launch a war with some kind of military action military operation. an end would see a noticeable bounce in in support in in polling Jimmy Carter in the Iran hostage crisis at least in the early part of that. Got The rally around the flag effect. George H W Bush with the Gulf War in ninety one Bill Clinton when he would launch military strikes in the ninety S. We go on and on with the list here. One of the aspects of the trump administration that I think has really fascinated a lotta politics watchers. That so many many of the supposed rules and laws of politics just haven't applied with him. Do you think this is another case or do you think there might be a rally around the flag effect here that that boost in the polls I am pretty convinced and the trump era and this was also true although to a lesser extent on their Brock Obama. Era that everyone's views are already cemented that no event no no new information really ended up changing attitudes about the president and if the president trump not only a rallying around the flag when it comes to Iran but if the present is in the United States ended up saying today that he's rooting for the Baltimore Ravens to win the Super Bowl. You might end up seeing about forty to forty five percent of the country saying yes. I'm going for Ravens in about fifty two to fifty five percent saying I'm going against the Baltimore Ravens and it being completely politicized along national lines on trump's approval rating and I think that's the situation with impeachment. I think that's a situation with Iran and whoever the president decides to support for the Super Bowl well for the record on the Patriots Fan. So I don't have a dog log into fight anymore. Maybe I'll go with the ravens. You know what Steve. You had a tremendous run that any fan would be envious of so enjoy the great run that you had no that most fans fans never have that kind of dominance over twenty year period. I have complaints about the game on Saturday. But I'm not going to share them because I know there's not a person in America who sympathized with me Mark Murray senior in your political editor here at NBC. Thank you for coming on. Thanks Steve Speaker Nancy. Pelosi continues to withhold those articles of impeachment Republican. Senator Lindsey Graham suggested the Senate may take matters into its own hands what I would do if she continues to refuse to send articles as required by the constitution. 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The 2020 Message to Republicans

WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch

22:51 min | 2 years ago

The 2020 Message to Republicans

"Technology today has never been smarter. But smart only matters when you put it to good use together, we can build a smarter future for all of us. Let's put smart to work. Find out how at IBM dot com slash smart. From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is Potomac watch democratic candidates finally concede, the Florida and Georgia governor and Senate races. But are the charges of voter suppression that they're making legitimate plus two weeks from election day with nearly all the votes now counted still a couple of races out, but most are settled what are the lessons for the parties? I'm Paul zhigo here with my colleague, Bill mcgurn hash out these stories. Hello bill. Hi, paul. Let's talk first about the the Georgia and Florida races. And particular wanna talk about Georgia at first because Stacey Abrams the charismatic democratic candidate. African American woman who had been a vote mobilizer for a long time vote registry champion of voter registration wants something of an upset in the prime. Gary, and then came quite close to to win and against Brian Kemp. The Trump appointed candidate who is secretary of state when she finally lost though. She said it wasn't a concession because she said that while she understood Mr. camp would neck be the next governor. She said he got there through the means of suppressing the vote, and this is suggest to me a rather ungracious exit, and maybe setting herself up to to run for another office. But is this really the way we want to have our elections settled. No, Paul is a very technical word for what? Stacy Adams is doing. It's called being a sore. Loser. Abrahams abrahams. And I mean, this is a person who if she wants to has a future a lot of people don't win the first time around. I remember Newt Gingrich constantly saying he had lost a few elections before he finally got elected, Jeb Jeb Bush, lost first time for governor key, Florida. Right. So I don't think that's the way. Do it. Really? Poisons the atmosphere thought the we've had several editorials on it. But one of the things that I think most important in this is that they're they're always disputes in elections, right? People have complaints about how the ballots printed or handled or there's always going to be a problem at some precinct. But that's why it's important to have rules beforehand. How you handle those and in this race? It was not just a number of ballots that word issue in the races and Florence boot with how it was about these rules and lawn. People wanted to change the rules are make them up on the fly after the election, and that's real. Really banana Republic territory to do that kind of thing because it creates all sorts of bad incentives for bad actors to come up with different votes. Well, the the the other fascinating thing about Georgia's that voter turnout as it was around the country with weight way and even better in in in Georgia higher increase in percentage. Terms over a previous midterms. It was sixteen point four percentage points over twenty fourteen levels, that's extraordinarily term election for a mid-term. It's is very straight gin. And it says that this candidate has a bright future, you know, whether as a Senator or something she first of all she has the name recognition. Now, she ran a good game just a little more, and she would one well and just to to to make the point. I don't think there's any you know, we know that Georgia the big part of the electorate as African American. She out. She just killed. It did tremendously. Well in phone county. Ron. Atlanta and in DeKalb county, which is also nearby and partly that was a tribute. No question to her to African American heritage. And there's a, you know, identity politic- politics votes there, but it's very hard. When you get that kind of a gigantic turn out to say, oh, well, somebody was trying to suppress it right right through those dastardly Republicans succeeded in suppressing look a lot of what was the accusations of suppressing were about cleaning up the electoral rolls, and you can have different ideas on how to do it. But you don't just disappear from the, you know, you get notices and so forth. And I think we do want our electoral rolls to reflect the reality of the voters who still there. So it's kind of I think George has a use it or lose it law. And if you have to come years if you haven't voted, but they give you notices like thirty, whoa. You walk in one day, and it's gone at that seems to me very reasonable. And if they want to change that fine. That's change it beforehand. If there's if there's a problem in how these things are judicata, let's do before him. But it seems to me that after the election comes in, and you don't have enough votes. That's not the way to go about it. Well, the Georgia and other states are in many cases in cleaning up the roles are responding to federal statutes right said, you stay you have federal funding. They're going to have to they're going to have to impose these the standards and much of the the the role cleanup that had taken place in Georgia was in response to that. That was litigated in Ohio all the way up to the supreme court and the supreme court upheld the whole the Ohio version of that which is comparable to what was happening in in Georgia. Now, I also think not unknown in politics that Stacey Abrams is kind of planning running again. David Purdue Senate in in twenty twenty the Republican Senator, and this is essentially a launching pad for for that committee. Well, she and Mr. Gillam, I think despite their losses have both made names for themselves. Andrew gillum, the Florida and Florida candidate. And you know, I think she's she's a very attractive candidate some people. She's sick citing and so forth. But again, it's incumbent on losers to recognize the legitimacy of the election. If we don't have that we're in a lot of trouble. Remember, I think Donald Trump before the two thousand sixteen election may clear he wasn't necessarily going to be okay. With the results if Donald Trump weren't any was widely criticized for it, rightly rightly, criticized for it because it it just the country has to come together after elections and all these people talk about us coming together and getting over divisible, this you can't question. The legitimacy of elections without evidence. And then expect people to come together. It's just it's just a terrible terrible precedent and for people that are stencil worried about the polarizing the country. That's that's one of the big contributors. Now, the the Florida races. Also settled around the Santa's the Republican will be the governor after a machine recount, and Rick Scott, the governor current governor will become Senator defeating Bill Nelson after a machinery count and a hand recount, and some judge's ruling that in fact, you couldn't change the rules of the vote counting game after the fact, and I think that was the there was a Bill Clinton appointee. By the way, the judge who made that decision, and I think it was appropriate one. I also think it's not really a hard call. Right. It should be it should be the right call. Look, I think the problem that they had in in Broward County and Palm Beach is the democrat candidate. Had is that the lead was so big for the other side? Even Rick Scott ten thousand votes is pretty comfortable lead. If if the goal is to steal eleven thousand votes to get to overcome that that's a that's a big mountain. Most of the times disputes come down to far fewer voters, and even in these places like Broward County, it's hard to get thirty five thousand votes, or you know, even twelve thousand votes to to overcome such a deficit, sewn some senses all the bad will that it's created. Is is completely unnecessary. Nets in Florida in particular, given their problems in the two thousand election. I think you were down there after the I was after the watched the hanging chads being from about fifteen feet away in Miami Dade, right and sort of the the revolt of the Republican middle class right about who is going to count these things and so forth. Well, it's such a preposterous process. They would people who three three judges. There would look up in the answer. They mean gore was at a half punch a little punch, but they're both punched who should we go at give it for. And it was a corrupting. I think vote count and look at look at that. You would think that after that they would have the best system in the country and clear, I think for Mr. j Santa's one of his challenges is to restore the credibility the electoral system down there, and they need to do what it takes to prevent the kind of, you know, clown show we see here where I mean. I'm gonna have to wait till the lawyers announce for now instead of the candidates conceding or announced giving the victory speech. Maybe it should be the attorneys. Right. Well, afraid we may be headed there in twenty twenty. We're talking about the some of the lessons of the twenty thousand election, and you're listening to Potomac watch from the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal podcast are brought to you by trunk club. When it's time to work. You don't want to think about what to wear drunk clubs, professional stylists. Help you build a wardrobe for everything from Monday meetings to Friday happy hour. Get started at trunk club dot com slash Wall Street. From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is the Tomac watch welcome back. I'm posing go here with my colleague, Bill mcgurn. We're now two weeks from election day and nearly all the votes are counted all the racist settled I think there are about four or five races. That are in the house still to be settled and three of those at least have Republicans leading in them Democrats leading in the other. So, but when everything is done Democrats looked to have picked up probably about something on the order of thirty eight could be thirty nine seats in the house of representatives. That's their biggest gain in an election since nineteen seventy four that great Watergate year for the for the Democrats bigger than their pickup in two thousand six they also they lost seats in the Senate lot looks to if the Mississippi. Final race. That's being settled the couple of weeks goes the Republican way than the Republicans would have fifty three seats in the Senate for a net gain of two. And yet when I look at the Senate Bill, I don't see any. I mean, obviously, a better result for Republicans then losing the Senate, but they gained the four seats. They gained three of them. Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri. Trump leaning states conservatives dates Florida's the one swing state. They picked up, but they lost Nevada. They lost AirAsia two seats that they had held and swing and swing states. And in the upper midwest in the Senate Wisconsin, Minnesota to racism, Minnesota's more -sconsin, Michigan Pennsylvania Hieaux, they got wiped out in the Senate. I think the lesson that I draw from from this election results. Two weeks later is this. This is a pretty bad election for the Republicans worse than certainly Donald Trump is admitted and worse than many Republicans thought on election night. Yeah. I mean, I have mixed feelings about that on the house. Certainly there's no there's no denying it. It's thumping on the other hand prison. Obama lost lot more seats in his first mid term. And it is an achievement to win seats in the Senate. You know, historically, I think you have to go back to Nixon to pick up this this many seats. It's look it's gonna make twenty twenty more interesting because some of the spots where Republicans were weak as you were intimating, the suburbs that have been traditionally red traditionally Republican they could count on. So as he looks for to the electoral map in twenty twenty. It may be he may have to look at it different constellation or shore up some of these areas. But a lot depends on what they do. I mean, you can never underestimate the democratic ability to overreach and in the house. Yeah, I it certainly that's true. But I. I have to say if you look at the results in the suburbs. It has to be alarming for Republican. I I'm on just can't go through some of the list here. You know, they not don't they lost two seats in Minneapolis. Okay. They lost a seat in suburban Denver. They lost a seat in Staten Island in off of New York. They lost three seats in the suburban Philadelphia area. They lost Tucson they lost. I think four seats in in Orange County in California used to be a democrat Republican stronghold. Now, it's all all those seats are held by by Democrats. They lost Dallas Dallas suburb Pete sessions. I lost John Culbertson in Houston suburbs. They lost in Oklahoma City seat. They'd held for decades. They lost in Charleston, the Charleston area in South Carolina, lost in Miami Dade. They lost enrich. And so you look at all of these Republican the suburban areas around the country and the question, I think that the Republicans need to ask Donald Trump needs to ask is, yes, he's relining the Republican party. But is he real lining it in a way that shrinking the Republican party? Yeah. I think that's look legitimate question. Just again, go back to saying there's a lot of ways to look at the these numbers and the Republicans are coming off a high mean democratic representation in the country had been in its lowest since the nineteen twenty. So the Republicans are taking these defeats from very high level. It's not uncommon for the party in power to lose going on. And I just think that it's it's too early to extrapolate. I mean against so many of the people that say the Republican party is dead. Now were assuring me Donald Trump would never win in in two thousand sixteen and he's surprised everywhere. A lot depends. I believe on the agenda going forward. I know again. My my own seat was lost re classic the kind of seat that you were talking about. Republican had had it for more than twenty years. Rodney freeling house, and he retires. We have a decent conservative candidate is running but the democrat candidate with very appealing. She was a naval academy. Graduate all her heads had her flying around in a helicopter. She campaigned on biography and being a moderate and not necessarily Pelosi democrat. Well, we'll see if they can those Democrats will have some pressure to stick by that. I mean, there's already kind of the problem in the house with MRs Pelosi, some of these people that pledge they wouldn't support are the irony to me is that it's it's strikes me that a lot of the people that say they wouldn't support MRs Pelosi are coming more from the left than from the moderate side of the Democratic Party. Well, I- I'm not suggesting that the Republican party is dead. Look, there's an urban flow and politics, no single election. I mean, we've now had these two parties in place since eighteen sixty. So I I don't see either of them going away. The question is though. Oh, the relative strength and from that high watermark in the states, and and the house you talked about is is you're going to get some erosion in that without question. But it's the nature of the defeat that to me is interesting, and it is in those suburban seats where you have college educated Republicans. You have a lot of working women who are independence on Republicans who those are the seats that the Republican party lost. Now part of it was because Democrats were shrewd in an eating candidates of the kind you talked about in New Jersey. And then that's Ichi crushed it. I mean, I think it was fifty seven percent. She also raised a record amount of money. That's right, partly. It was a raised Republicans out hustling this year and raised a lot of money and rebelled outspent him. But. It's the question of whether with Donald Trump at the top of the ticket behaving like he does a lot of these people liked these voters liked his policies, but they don't like the way he handles the presidency. And that's one of the reasons they decided they would be tolerant of democratic check on Trump was because hey, you know, maybe they'll get him to behave. And I don't think they're going to get them to behave. But nonetheless, the real question my mind is whether Trump can get those voters back because remember those were the voters in two thousand sixteen who were wary of Trump all along in the last couple of weeks of the campaign states, like Wisconsin, and Michigan and Pennsylvania. They came around. They came around and voted and gave him those states electorally. Will they do that? Again. I see, you know, they want Ohio Republicans it well in Ohio that seem state seems to be more Republican these days, but Florida very much on the fence North Carolina very much on the fence on the on the fence in in twenty twenty. And then I think the upper mid west, I I think Donald Trump is really the underdog running for reelection right now. Well, we'll find out again a lot of the promised. There was like a split personality in the democratic side. We had CONNER lamb was supposed to be the new face of the Democratic Party. Former marine not gonna strip. Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, not going to support Nancy Pelosi and the other hand, we have Alexandria Okaz, your Cortez who's, you know, attacking MRs Polisi from the left is from mcqueen's. Yeah. And even demonstrated in her office the other day, it'll be it'll be interesting to see how the Democratic Party goes. I think they're going to go for hearings and impeachment. I mean in some senses, I don't blame them because I'm not sure there's that much legislation. They could really get through given the Senate of what they really want. And I don't think they're in a see. I don't think they're in a compromising moves. I think it's going to be a very volatile two years up until twenty twenty one of the things one of the things though that I think if you're a politician, you don't wanna be in particularly of an incumbent, you wanna be in essentially in control of your own destiny that is if you set up certain if you do certain things if you set up certain predicates for re election in the third year, you have an easier time winning. Reelection in the fourth. It's a more difficult circumstance. If what you're relying on is in essence the other side, screw up right, right? Overdoing it in the house or by nominating. Somebody further to the left, maybe the Democrats will be sensible enough and sense the possibility of victory. That's all nominate a Joe Biden, for example, or somebody who is more middle of the road as opposed to Elizabeth Warren or or Bernie Sanders. Yeah. I'm just not sure. That's where the party is. I mean, Joe Biden would be an interesting choice because I think you talked about voters you have to get back. You know, Trump also got some people that voted working class people that voted for Obama, and then voted for him and Biden would be sort of magic bullet to try to get some of those white blue collar workers back from people. It's just hard to see how this aging white male. Gets a nomination in a party that you know, banning all chips on density politics. I think Kamala Harris is very attractive. I mean, just as a whole Senator from cal-, California. I think she she looks attractive. I think she has all the appeal to the left that some of the others have. So I think it's going to be an interesting race in one thing, we know about Democrats when they run they're not polite. I mean, they will they will really fight for that nomination. And I I just miss all the Mrs Clinton talk because even if she did decide to run or wants to run I don't think that they would defer to her this time last time the reason Bernie Sanders was the only opponent against her self declared socialist is because all the other people defer to her Biden differ to remember, they kinda manipulated Biden in the White House to pull out Andrew Cuomo deferred to her a lot of people, and they're going to say you had your chance we're not going to do that again. Yeah. I tend to agree with you on that one Bill, although we have colleagues. Who are insisting that James Freeman believe he's going to run for sure. And the and the Mark Penn the former client adviser wrote in our paper that coulda she's going to run. But I guess my point is for the purposes of this podcast, mainly that the lesson for the Republicans, and for Donald Trump is you have substantial repair work to do your coalition is smaller now than it was two years ago. If you wanna win in twenty twenty you need to recreate it and is harder. Because I think would lot of people overlook is that the way to unite this coalition is on policy, right, it, they were they were United after they got their tax cut through the were United by Brad Kavanagh, even sort of never Trumpers and the Republican party that didn't like him. Most of them wanted to see Brett Cavin on the supreme court. That's a lot harder that you don't have the house. You know? In other words, you lose a lot of you lose a legislative vehicle for that. Of unity. So that's going to be harder for the president to do than it was say two years ago. All right Bill. Thank you very much. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back tomorrow with another edition of Potomac watch.

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#EERS S8 Ep193: The Impeachment Needle

The Erick Erickson Show

2:06:40 hr | 1 year ago

#EERS S8 Ep193: The Impeachment Needle

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That's Harrys Dot com code. Five thousand. Enjoy enjoy hello and welcome it. Is Eric Erickson here. The Erik Erikson show back after Thanksgiving. Oh and the Gremlins have been in the office apparently Ya Ah. I was talking with a buddy of mine over the weekend and he was wondering what is the name for the Gremlin that during the summer goes into your attic and Screws up all of your Christmas light so that they they were working when you put them in the attic and you get out of the attic and they're no longer working. What is that Gremlin in my theory? Is that the Elf on the shelf is doing doing something During the summer when when you're away and the Elfin. The Shelf is board. He goes around and screws up all your Christmas lights and apparently the Elf on the shelf. There's been messing with our board while we've all been on vacation. We're having all sorts of issues here this morning but We will muddle through this morning. I'm glad to be back with you and thanks. Thanks very much to all of you who supported the show over the Thanksgiving break. You guys have been a real blessing to me. We got a ton of stuff we need to get covered with today the full number here if if you WANNA be a part of the program. Eight seven seven nine. Seven irrigates seven seven nine seven three seven four to five. But I can't hear you if you call right now so maybe we should call. I just thought about that. We're so just to give you the the state of play of what we're dealing with this morning. This is so unprofessional of me. They always said theater of the mind. Make sure nobody knows but I keep it real with you guys so you can hear me but I can't hear you the audio coming down on the line to me is all messed up this morning. So I assume that I'm rambling here at every can hear me but I can't hear anybody else so I'm the set my alarms to tell me when you go to commercial break. Because usually they talked to me down the line and Charlie's already texting nobody cares. Yes you care I I know you care because you love me. Impeachment is not going well for the Democrats about that transition. We'll just get right to to it. they're having to reopen the fishing expedition expedition. And they're having to go forward over Thanksgiving. All of Congress went over. You know this is very important and I don't think people pay enough attention into recess. Not your kids recess not did not you taking a break from for the holidays but Congress and the congressional or recesses it's actually a very important time for Congress to go home and they interact with constituents randomly they encounter people in their neighborhoods. They get what people are talking about. They get what people are saying. And there's a problem for the Democrats and that is nobody is actually talking about impeachment anywhere they go. Here's Rick Klein from ABC News. Can't fight it. I think the counter programming is delivering in what the perception is that voters want to hear from. They're not getting asked on the trail in Iowa New Hampshire South Carolina Nevada. They're not getting asked about impeachment. They don't WanNa talk about it because they don't really have much to add it. The isn't an issue for them. I think there's really not a good way for any of these campaigns to try to break through. In this era this is going to be the overriding story and the Democratic primaries. He's GonNa play out against that backdrop as Matthew says if this is all done by February march. We're not going to be voting in all likelihood on impeachment next November. It's going to be a distant memory and they have to keep their arise on pies but there's no doubt. This is frustrating some of those lower tier candidates. Who thought this is the time where everyone is going to be? Dialed into the primary campaign. Yeah and you know the problem. The Democrats have seriously I. I'm not making. I'm so excited I get to talk about this. Everybody around here is like what you're deal. What why I? I get to talk about baby. Yoda baby iota. My friends is deeply imported to the Democrats on the campaign trail. Let explain with mark. McKinnon used to work for George W Bush sure. I think that Particularly among those second tier candidates they're frustrated that so much of the attention is focused on Washington But on the other hand. We're seeing equation is not set in concrete. Things are changing their malleable. The you know the it's it's not very very often that the front runner in Iowa September wins in January or February. And we're seeing that right now the the Elizabeth Warren is That's who flays dropping. The Buddha Buddha judge a rocket Scotto fuel and things are things are malleable So we also know that in Iowa people pay attention on the ground. They're kind of tuning running out all the national noise and we always tend to the media that makes the mistake as all of a student's sort of look at the national numbers. The National Echo Chamber the national national notion that they're all talking about baby yoga they're not talking about baby yoga and Des Moines. I guarantee you. They are looking at these candidates looking at them carefully and as it always does I was going to set the bar for what this election goes. Well in Iowa they made may not be talking about baby owed but everyone else is talking about baby yoga and a you. You should be talking about baby yoga. What on Earth? Yes Yoda from Star Wars. There's a problem for the Democrats and baby. IOTA is the problem now if you have no idea what I'm talking about if you're a windstream customer you probably can't even get baby yoga Baby Iota is the surprise debut character on the new Disney plus series the Mandal Laurean. The man delorean. Iran is a bounty hunter. If you know anything about star wars the man to Lorenzo weapons or part of their religion is actually a very cool. The guys bounty hunter Disney plus plus the new streaming service from Disney. Their debut show. They're spending one hundred million dollars on this series it is written it is scripted. It is produced. I by Jon Favreau. Who did who is happy on The ironman series. He was deeply involved in Marvel's iron man series. Among other things and e- The it is people are just buzzing about the series. I my son and I've been watching it where they release an episode of either not doing Netflix dump thing. They released new episode every Friday literally on Fridays. Now I get off this show at noon and go fire up the new mantle oriented episode and watch thirty minutes of meeting before going to the gym. It is a great great show and Disney has has fired it up. They're pouring money into advertising. They are pouring money into marketing. It they're we're doing all sorts of tie INS. The the surprise character in the mandatory is a baby iota. The the plot is the empires fallen. The return of the Jedi events have happened The battle of indoor has happened if you know your Star Wars and the republic is in chaos the empire's in chaos and there's a bounty hunter called Amen the the mandatory and he is of of a group of people called manned delorean's he wears a helmet at all times. You look like Boba Fett. And he is about any hunter and he is the best in the sector and he is sent to capture a baby. Yoda who clearly has forced powers and the baby. IOTA is going to be experimented experimented upon and he has a conscience and having delivered baby yoga to the bound people paying the bounty. He then escaped with baby ODA now. They is essentially a western Stern. He's in hiding traveling around the universe with his baby and the baby has gotten lots of buzz. People really love the look of the baby yoga. And here's the problem. I'm for the Democrats and why I get to spend the morning starting my show talking about baby yoga more people are talking about baby. Yoda over Thanksgiving than they are. Any of the Democratic presidential presidential candidates and more than impeachment. It is really hard for the Democrats to get any sort of traction on impeachment and when everybody cares about baby iota and nobody cares about impeachment. It's in fact. The Democrats are going to have to open up a fishing sheen. Expedition on Rudy Giuliani and the president. There's going to be more hearings this week. The Intelligence Committee is going to have more hearings. The Judiciary Committee is going to have more hearings. But they're battling baby baby ODA axios which is a new online news site in Washington. DC had a story over the weekend that More people are or buzzing about baby iota than any of the Democrats. In fact all the Democrats combined are not getting the same level of buzz as baby. Yoga and impeachment isn't getting the same level. buzzes uses the Democrats combined You had a number Democrats drop out of the race. We'll get to them here. And the Kelly lawler situation as Laughlin situation a little bit but this is a problem for the Democrats she got a new streaming service from Disney. That not everybody has. And that's part of the key here. Is that Disney. We don't know their full sign up numbers but they signed up ten million people diverse day. which which is quite a lot of people? Compared Netflix has never signed up ten million people in an entire quarter Disney signed up ten million people in the first day but how many of them are watching the Lauren. We have no idea idea but of Internet. Buzz is anything and you know this is part of the process. Let let me go off on a tangent here for a minute. One of the problems net flicks. Alex has with Netflix. Streaming Service. Is that Netflix. Tries to generate a bunch of buzz for shows but it doesn't last long How many people are talking about the crowd crown? The crown has dropped season three of the crown. My wife and I watched the crowd. It's good show but how many people are paying attention to it. How many people are buzzing about it? When stranger things dropped over the summer a lot of people were buzzing about it for a few days? But part of Netflix has problem is it drops everyone It drops every episode on the same day. And so you can't watch together whether you watch at your own pace and so you can't really talk about the show because I may be on on an episode three of the newest stranger things but you may finish the entire series. And I don't want your spoilers you don't want to spoil it for me so we can't talk about it with the mandatory at every episode is dropping on Friday. So you have the weekend to talk about it so on Monday you get to the office mule. Hey did did you see that scene in the mandatory. And we're all the DELOREAN's are are piling on the other bounty hunters and Gillingham and everyone has a Shakespeare's because you're all watching it together. I can assure you they you can watch him and laureate episode over the weekend. Get your office on Monday. And no one screaming spoiler alert spoiler alert. Because you haven't seen it everybody's watching did together because it's only one episode a week. You're making time for it. In fact there's a lot of data that's come out. Since Disney plus started dropping the mental oriented. That people are tuning out. Some of the regular terrestrial Israel television shows and they're going into Disney plus on Friday or over the weekend giving up shows or activities they would otherwise do and they're watching this now. How do the Democrats in in this day and age a deal with impeachment? One of the most interesting aspects of all of this is that candidates for office have had to come to terms with the streaming the age. And what I mean by that is that E. If you're watching the man to Laurean on Disney plus you know what you're not seeing advertisements so so how can a candidate connect to you if you're not watching cable. TV or listening to the radio They can put. ADS is on radio. They can put ads on TV. But they can't put an ad on Disney plus. So they're having to come at you on on Google and facebook and the like and maybe you'll see him there but if you're not there if you're you're in front of your TV but you're not watching ads. How do they connect? How do they get their message? Out increasingly there have to go to order door. Well they can't go door to door with impeachment. They can't do that. They've got to come up with a way to connect to you in a way that somehow or another you're able to relate eight and they typically do that on TV will they can't now here. Here's this Kim Delaney and talking about the fishing expedition. They're going to have to expand this because they got to capture sure people's attention and thus far Ukraine as fallen flat. It's increasingly clear that the office that regionally on Easter run in New York the Southern District prosecutors are now investigating aiding him in his business dealings. Not just in Ukraine but elsewhere subpoenas are flying D- crimes like money laundering and Foreign lobbying are being examined Emond and This could be a big deal in some ways in Ukraine because Rudy Giuliani is a Fox News. Hero he's a famous guy. Everyone in the country associates him closely with President Trump and if he is exposed as having done things wrong related to Ukraine or other things that sort of blowback on president trump. That could really pose a political problem in a way that Ukraine hasn't because going back to Susan said you know it hasn't moved the needle in part because while we can call it bribery extortion The American public doesn't seem convinced. Instinet the Justice Department wasn't either. They took a pass on investigating this. So it's sort of the Democrats trying to convince the country. That trump committed bribery and half the country believes them in half. Don't yes Susan for Chiro on looks like face the nation this we talked about the same thing in polling and Susan. Do you get any sense of the Democrats. What's the they made a mistake in phone through this? No I don't think they think they made a mistake but I think they are concerned that here they are in this process We're we're heading into December now the polls are stagnant. They are worried that they're stuck on something. That could hurt them politically. So as Rick was saying let's move along quickly. Put this in the rear view mirror. That's the idea that I'm hearing from Democrats in the hallways of Congress that we were hoping the polls move a little bit. Nothing's really happened. What's going to happen next? Are they gonNA take up articles of impeachment if they do so they're going to send them to the Senate where there where he certain to face a dismissal. It's not going to go anywhere. So I- I hit the button on the way into commercial with Susan Ferruccio but you you got the point there. It was a perfectly to sink point on impeachment of the the problem the Democrats have is The GIG is up if this goes to the Senate. They're they're not going to get an impeachment. In fact one of the concerns is. They're losing people like Mitt Romney who they thought they had. That's right Mitt. Romney is is not going to side with the Democrats on impeachment right now. The way things go Chris Cillizza on. CNN has his own theories about what the polling is showing for impeachment. Yeah I'd say Jim that Democrats if you ask them last Friday did did. Did those hearings go how you wanted them to they would say not in our wildest dreams. Did we think Gordon Sunland for example would say yes there was a quid pro quo that those hearings went you better than they could've imagined so I would say Democrats would have been much happier if those numbers had moved up five or ten points but I would also caution that we people like you and I are paid. You follow this stuff extremely closely. The average person is gearing up for Thanksgiving Looking ahead to Christmas us And so I think there's an element to which we have to take a big cleansing breath and think to yourself. It's possible that this will take a little bit a bit longer to seep into the body politic the average voter and then let's give it two three four weeks and see where rat except. That's not panning out. So far now is solidifies is the I mean. He is known for Conventional Wisdom. A IFS Eliza says it the odds are it's conventional wisdom that's wrong And he is now a out there suggesting. Let's let this marinate for four weeks since he goes to. The problem is that people can't remember it and those who do remember it. They're already split slit. People's minds aren't changing. That's just the fundamental reality of impeachment right now. The Democrats are beginning to recognize that and the president is upping his game. So they're heading. They're they're moving this to the House Judiciary Committee and the House Judiciary Committee is going to have its own hearings. The president and his team are saying they're not gonNA participate. The issue is whether whether or not they can come up with articles of impeachment. The House Judiciary Committee is the committee that drafted articles of impeachment and in the run-up to that They they are they're talking to Oh what's his name. The former Clinton adviser Mark Pin mark. Penn is a pollster mark. Penn advice is Hillary Clinton and Mark Pin is suggesting that this should be dealt with at the ballot box. He's a democrat. WHO's come forward and said this is an issue that needs to be dealt dealt with at the ballot box led the voters decided? It's already too divisive. Joe Lockhart Bill Clinton's former press secretary was on CNN over the weekend talking talking about this story that Mark Penn is now advising Donald Trump take about the dynamics here real quick one of Hillary Clinton's top advisers want to Bill Clinton's Clinton's top advisers is advising Donald Trump on impeachment. I I'm not completely surprised about about there being no real movement because remember there was a big move between late spring till Ukraine story happened. This is a this is an unusual case where the confession came. First the transcript. The president admitting he did it and then P. The we just built blocks of evidence to prove that yes. He did even though he'd confessed so I don't expect on. MARK PENN A as a partisan Democrat. I'm glad he's advising the president that's a very divisive guy not well liked among his peers and he will he will inject chaos into the process. He'll legit kit wait. Wait a second So this is Joe Lockhart. Saying mark. Penn is a divisive figure who's not well liked among his peers and yet this is a guy who the Clintons trusted. Now you could look at this and I'd say well you know she lost the presidency. Donald Trump Being advised by someone like Mark Penn.. But if you inject more chaos into the process says you're probably going to have a harder time getting consensus. Are you not. I mean one of the big issues here for the Democrats is that they've settled along. They wanted bipartisanship ship in the impeachment process. Here's picking talking with Martha Raddatz over the weekend. Oh a man is absolutely because the Democrats walked started early. You're saying peace mmashebi bipartisan. We wanted by partisans. That'll help move the public. And now you've seen so far is about four percent of people support impeach and remove about forty percent of people oppose it and that's basically it. It was the numbers very similar to the numbers. When we started this whole process so basically we have three weeks of grew testimony we described as gripping an interesting and damaging to the president that essentially change change? No one's mind on this whole process in tech forty nine forty four is fairly close to who voted for Hillary for trump suggesting that I just think the Republican Party is not going to move either the elites or the voters away from President trump no matter what the evidence is simone sort of having a process. That isn't going to change anybody's mind is my impression. Yeah Yeah we're probably not consider the Associated Press story over the weekend that that had lots of Democrats in Washington. DC buzzing Let me pull up the tweet from the the Associated Press This is the actual tweet sin out by the Associated Press on November thirtieth right now. Republicans are wielded impeachment mostly as an offensive weapon. Democrats are generally playing defense or changing. The subject is twenty twenty congressional races rev up. It's unclear how potent the issue will be on on election day. Unclear how potent the issue will be on election day. That suggest the Democrats are already factoring into this. That impeachment is not going to matter come November of twenty only twenty. Here's the Associated Press noting that it's the Republicans on offense on on impeachment. It's the Democrats on defense. Democrats over the Thanksgiving break. Were hiding from the press Trying to avoid getting asked by local members of the press in local communities how they stood on impeachment and the reason reason is quite straightforward and quite simple. This isn't playing well in swing districts swing district voters. They want their own opportunity to vote on this issue in in November. Now we got switch gears here when we come back. You're listening to Erik Erikson on the Eric Erickson show across the state of Georgia. Welcome welcome back at his Eric. Erickson here the Ericsson show across the state of Georgia. The phone number is eight. Seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven seven four to five well. There was a terror attack in London over Thanksgiving in also in the Netherlands. The Hague knife-wielding lean bandits is the guy in London turned out to be a terrorist to have been locked up and left in prison and Detained without the ability of release even though his Senate Ted expired and this plays into a larger political context in Britain that so much of the American media is ignoring but it would be useful for you to understand the context here. Great Britain is trying trying to leave the European Union calling Brexit Majority of the people in in the UK voted to leave. It's been very contentious as to how to actually leave a number of British elite are opposed to it and have done everything possible to prevent it from happening Believing that the the voters are too stupid to decide for themselves what they want for their destiny. A lot of younger people are so tied into being European and not just Member not just British citizens. They don't WanNA leave. There've there've been a series of of efforts to undermine it a parliament is now in an election process Boris Johnson the Tory conservative Prime Minister Mr up for election. He's trying to get a majority polls show he's probably going to get enough of a majority That he can Get brexit taking care of and leave the EU and this plays into it and the reason that plays into it is because the European Union Supreme Court Ordered that people could not oughta be detained indefinitely beyond their prison sentences including terrorists so the the murderer the terrorist who murdered the people by the way he had a fake suicide vest on it appears He wanted to be killed. The murderer terrorist was let out of prison resin because he was being held by British authorities beyond his sin unseen. They had nowhere to send him no nowhere for him to go. They knew he was a threat to British citizens. Listen so they left him in jail and he was one of the people who was able to get out of prison because of this European Union order so this place into the election but now here's what are the other things. So he was. He was stopped with a guy with a fire extinguisher. And a guy with the nor will toss that's right in no guns in the EU so the terrorists terrorist had knives and was stabbing people. Two people killed many more injured and he was detained by someone with a Wail Tusk. A narwhal dusk and a fire extinguisher until police got there. Police had guns and they shot him turns out that one of the people being heralded as a hero. Are you ready you for. This is a murderer. Yup One of the people who stopped the terrorist from killing more. The people is himself a murderer. He stabbed to death a disabled woman in Out in She was taking a walk in the forest or be we all through the forests Amanda Champion she was Disabled Twenty one one year old woman she was killed by James Ford in two thousand. Three Ford ran into Amanda in the woods in Kent outside of London and proceeded to strangle goal her and slit her throat. Her body was discovered three weeks later badly decomposed he was discovered as the prime suspect. Effort made several calls to a charity confessing the crime and threatening to kill himself. Ford is now forty two. He was sentenced to life imprisonment for the crime. In two thousand and four with the judge recommended he serve a minimum of fifteen years in prison. He was freed on prison day. Release when he witnessed Osmond con violently attacked pedestrian to London Bridge with a knife Ford. Several other people intervened in the attack to subdue con until police arrived and gun to calm down at the time of his arrest. Police described for his actions as motiveless crime in a senseless crime described him personally as a very dangerous man. Khan of course was also out of prison. Serving only six years of two decades sentence after for being convicted of terror related charges in two thousand twelve. He informed attended the same prison sponsored educational event the day of the attack. One of the people murdered actually was also at that prison sponsored educational event talking about rehabilitation of prisoners. And that's one of the people that Khan murdered so you've got a con. The terrorists let out of jail Stabbing people to death on a bridge in London and James Ford who murdered someone on the bridge stopping the terrorists. The whole thing is very bizarre. Talk about postmodern worlds colliding. In of course this is all going to play into the British election. The Conservatives are pointing out that Jeremy Corbyn the far left anti Semitic a leader of the Labour Party. He really I mean the. The man blamed Jews for the sun coming up. He's that bad That he protested Harsh sentences against terrorists including people like Usman Khan back in two two thousand twelve. The Conservative Party is well ahead in the polling right now and they will probably go further ahead in this unless labor and and the British meteors are somehow able to blame Boris Johnson. For what happened. I doubt they'll be able to do that now. Meanwhile moving in further around the globe the president went to Afghanistan for Thanksgiving and the media pounced. And you know I use that media pounce language intentionally because anytime conservatives all focus on a story. The headline from the media is conservatives pals here the media's pouncing going out of their way to point out the president there's never been there before he's been president for all this time and he hasn't actually Done anything. He hasn't gone to Afghanistan. He has invited the troops in Afghanistan. How dairy so he? He goes to Afghanistan and a Newsweek reporter files. A report on what the president is doing for the weekend. And she claims the president is defined the tradition of his predecessors. He's not going to visit the troops. He's going to play golf and spend time alone and watching Fox News that that that was the actual story from an actual Newsweek reporter who was not clued in enough to know what was actually happening and usually has fired this report but they released the story stories. They pushed it out on social media. First so you have a story from the media from the media from Newsweek week. No less that the president was going to spin his Thanksgiving holiday defying the traditions of his predecessors by not visiting the troops oops that he was going to spend time playing golf and that he was going to spend his time alone in his room at his golf course watching Fox News. That was the story and and it turned out not to be true Not only that it turned out not to be true but after it was pointed out that the reporter got the story wrong That the president actually had gone to Afghanistan the reporter double down insulting people who pointed it out say that she had written the story before the Thanksgiving break based on what the White House said the president was going we do and she was ridiculing the president for it and you know that's part of the problem here so her reaction she's been fired. Mind you because the story sorry spiraled out of Control and began to embarrass Newsweek but she double down on the story because the White House told her that this was so so instead of saying look. I'm sorry we ran with the story based on with the White House told us us at the time and clearly we were misled. My bad the stories taken down. She began attacking people for ridiculing her. Forgetting the story wrong and instead of apologizing getting the story wrong originally. She doubled down on the story that this is what the White House said. How is she supposed to know? He was going to Afghanistan with the white in house. Didn't say he was going to Afghanistan. It's not her fault but she's the one who wrote the story and she got it wrong. This is there is a level of arrogance in here that we repeatedly heatedly encounter with the media these days in in how they are handling these situations. There's a level of arrogance by the media media these days in how they circle the wagons and defended themselves. here's Brian staedtler on CNN. Dan He's their media guy. Remember his job is to cover the media and hold the media accountable and this is stettler on the story so Fox and friends. This morning was talking about the president's surprise shift Afghanistan for Thanksgiving the banner said media and DEM's blast trump over visit Afghan thinking who's who in the media's blasting trump for doing a great the thing that's committed and chief so they were talking about this reporter for Newsweek. Who wrote a story before the president landed in Afghanistan basically surmising that trump was actually just this golfing and Tweeden on Thanksgiving? So she put her story She updated at once. Everyone found out. The president was actually in Afghanistan but her original tweet here was lambasted stood by trump supporters. And Look. This was an error by Newsweek. To assume that the president was just going to be golfing on Thanksgiving but as a result the Washington examiner has fired this Newsweek reporter it just strikes me that there's a lot of bad faith acting going on Over on Fox and friends when they when they attacked the entirety of the media for one error by Newsweek wink industries in Washington examiner had fired the reporter No it was Newsweek who fired the reporter. But it wasn't just Newsweek. Actually a number number of reporters including some from CNN were blasting the president for going to Afghanistan. Play the fact he's never been there before the suggesting that The president had been dishonorable in some way for never having gone to Afghanistan before that Oh finally the president goes in the suggestion from one reporter I saw was that the president was using this as a political photo op. in the run-up to campaign. Twenty twenty the president of never bothered to go to Afghanistan and now suddenly he is because the campaign is is blowing up. I'm the hot takes by the media and the stuff are deeply troublesome but it's not just them and those are the only hot takes we we should also Review The New York Times coverage of Thanksgiving over the week The the the now I realize this is the opinion section of the New York Times but just couldn't sitter. These are the four stories. The New York Times chose to run over thanksgiving. I giving these are the headlines by Paul Krugman. Why trump should hate thanksgiving subtitle after all it celebrates the better angels of our Nature Feature Charles? Blow the horrible history of Thanksgiving subtitle. Before you feel your plate. Please remember why we mark this day by David. Silverman the vicious reality behind the Thanksgiving myth subtitle. If Americans continue to insist on associated the holiday with pilgrims and Indians At least we can do the least we do. Get the story straight. And by Harry get us how to deal with difficult relatives over the holidays subtitle whether politics Sir favorite side dishes or the issue this crash course will help everyone get along at the table this holiday season. You know there was actually a report a story. I should say report. It was a an an opinion piece in the nation. The far left Communist rag here in the United States that you have a moral obligation. You people have moral obligation to yell at and shame any member of your family at your Thanksgiving celebration. If they we are not woke now. That's not actually what he said what he said was I if they disagree with climate change or supported the president. So if you disagree with by the wait I don't know anyone who disagrees that the climate is changing the climate is always changing. It's the the entire idea that you you if you disagree with the if you disagree with radically upending Western economies so if you disagree with radically uppity Western economies. He's in favor of communism because of global warming. Then you need to be shamed at the dinner table. He the these people actually exist. Who are these people the most malcontent souls possible possible? I imagine I suspect these are the people who don't actually go to family. Dinners in fact. I saw someone over the Over thanksgiving break. who was laughing because he he was a comedy central writer That his grandfather he put on a mate. Greta great again you Greta Thunberg Org Green cap the guy the Granddad thought he was wearing a make-america-great-again hat and he was it And he was ridiculed by his grandson and and the grandson got ridiculed by people on twitter for be that guy at Thanksgiving. Who are these people who do this? You Know Dr. The Laura was here last week with me and I thought he made a great point. None of us are under a moral obligation to hang out with family members. Just because we're family for Thanksgiving although I like my family and and I couldn't be with my immediate family while I was with my my wife and kids but I was with her family not my parents and my sisters who were all Mississippi together. We talked on the phone. I don't understand the families who don't want to be together for Thanksgiving but I guess every family has that one problem person who just can't leave politics out of it. Sometimes you know sometimes sometimes we just we want to avoid the politics and sometimes we can't help it but there's always that one member of the family I guess who's just intent on dragging politics into everything so today is cyber Monday which I do have to laugh at just got a seal email from a Website I subscribed to in there. Make it a laughing about the whole idea of cyber Monday They've they've even got all their stuff displayed as netscape browser from the nineties. You know that was the big thing is as the Internet was taken off The the cyber Monday stuff Cyber Monday nobody cyberspace's aces. This was a a term from the nineties into the early two thousands as the Internet was taken off and people were starting to to to browse browse online and buy stuff online and Amazon came online and eight people were discussing cyberspace. Well now we just talk about the Internet Today is the the Internet Monday I think is a better way to say it. We're people on Friday. Could go to stores by. I've got a I got a bone to pick with with with some of these places Walmart and target. Were Open on Thanksgiving. y'All I I actually had a moral level. I'm opposed into this. I realized that you sit around all day. And you're bored and you want to go do something and you know in the past you would go to The movies Go to the movies Thursday night. A you know people working to the theater and I get that but but y'all seriously give people a day off and I guess Christmas will be that day but e Thanksgiving used to be that day as well yet Thanksgiving giving head Christmas where nobody had to work except in a few select industries and now suddenly in the the retail space. You gotta go work at target. You gotta go work at Walmart Walmart. At least with target people who chose to work they got paid time and a half. There's a story out over the weekend that Walmart did not. I pay its employees Overtime they just got regular wages and if they wanted to use vacation day to avoid it they could use vacation day to avoid it man down here in Makin. There was a big fight. At one of the Walmarts it went viral online people taking videos of this at a at a Walmart not near my house on the other side Outta town but people punch each other everybody fighting over the same TV crazy. I don't find the allure of going a two black Friday deals. I know some people. Do some people love it but typically what I have found with a lot of these black Friday deals as you get inferior products like for example. Oh years ago there was an electronic store that was set had massive. I WanNa say it was a seventy inch. Flat Screen L. C. D. ATV for less than a thousand dollars at a time they were typically going for for two thousand dollars and it was on sale for like nine ninety nine or seven ninety. Nine something like that and people were lined up on Thanksgiving trying to get into the big-box electronic store to get this flat screen. TV and when you actually looked at the specs of the TV it wasn't good TV. V It may have been seventy inches but it wasn't a ten eighty p. I think it was ten eighty I it only had two. HD ports did have four HDMI ports. It just wasn't a good TV and I guess if if you know xbox or apple. TV or Roku Amazon fire. Stick or anything like that to plug into it. It was a great deal for you If you didn't want high resolution you just one of the basic. I think it was. It was either ten eighty I or seven twenty P and it wasn't a great deal and yet people were busting the door to get into this thing and and it's it's just not a fan of it will today is cyber Monday and people do the same thing online but has an Amazon Amazon Day. They've got what Prien Day Day. Prime Day that's Amazon's black Friday and it happens in July. I think it's like halfway through. So people do their Christmas shopping on Amazon Prime Day a on July in July. Or some such I just. I'm not a fan. I actually asked Chris Burns from dynamic money if he would come by this week. I think he's going to connecting tomorrow and talk to us about budgeting for for Christmas. There's a report out that Ah Majority of Americans a majority we're talking to nation of three hundred fifty million people and a majority of Americans are are still paying down debts from last Christmas. which is crazy and so I wanted to talk to him about them? We'll I'll talk to him Later now at the bottom of the next hour congressman ship. Roy from Texas is GonNa join me. We're going to have to I. I've got a fancy setup here where he can connect via my cellphone since we're having issues with lines in the office He's GonNa have to call myself. I suppose to make this happen. But we're going to talk to him about his campaign in Texas because he's running. It's Windy Davis Abortion Barbie This is a must win seat for the Democrats and the Republicans. It's a must old seat in Congress but before we get into any of that we gotTa Talk About the Kelly Laughlin situation it continues to spiral as Brian. Kemp is now being blown up by major conservative groups in Washington DC over his appointment of Kelly. Loftier the opposition. Research on law flourished coming fast and furious from folks in Washington that she squishy squishy. She's apparently battle. We'll at least they're saying there's no evidence of actually but they're saying she's bad on life she's bad on social issues bat on transgender issues just from a conservative perspective I want to delve into what I know about the law floor situation when we come back in the meantime Colin Kaepernick came to Atlanta. Did the big dog and pony show throwing the football for people to see Turn it into. Apr spectacle where he refused to actually do it at the Falcons training facility so most of the NFL teams. That flew into seem. Didn't actually get to see. He's got no deals and now he's speaking an UN- thanksgiving event of native Americans Savoy American Indians. I guess we can say he's got nowhere with his whole army when we come back. You're on the air here. Let's get into the state of play in Georgia and the Senate race. I was reminded again over the weekend. How ingenious quips design is? I'm talking about the electric toothbrush. It vibrates every thirty seconds at Pulses Holtz's. So you know to change it around your mouth you get a very even brushing. Listen I've been using the quit for three years now. Maybe I'm on my second. One actually actually really broke my first one My fault not their fault. In any of it they sent me a new one and it over the weekend. I guess I left it running or I don't know the battery died. I'm assuming it just kept getting turned on in my bag as I was traveling. And but man you just you slide the top of it often. It's just a single AAA battery in in the battery to relax for months and you get a new brush head every three months and with it they send you new AAA battery. 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There are some problems though we need to discuss discuss and it comes Let me let me give you the lay of the land here. Based on what I know based on the people that I've talked to Kili lawf- ler applied the very last minute before before the governor stopped taking gene applications for the Senate race and that has suggested to a lot of people that the fix was in that it was always going to be law floor and they went through this dog dog and pony. Show what I am told reliably. Is that The governor's office based on who had applied? I decided that they needed to go out. And find some additional potential candidates in particular. I'm told reliably the the governor's office those around the governor. I'm not gonNA say the governor himself but those around the governor Were not fans of of Doug Collins being the the appointee from the get-go the reason they were not fans from the get go Well I was told by one person. Not In the governor's office there's a Chris Riley Situation And I don't know whether that's true or not but the person I know Seem to be convinced of it Chris I Riley being the a former chief of staff to governor deal there The history there are some issues there. Between Jeff Duncan and Brian Kemp with Chris Riley and that Allegedly there there were suggestions that Riley may be involved if if Collins were the nominee. I don't again. This is not from anyone around the governor but from those who I think would know but the other issue the issue that I do know for certain certain is that there was a lot of polling done in a lot of thinking behind. The scenes within the governor's office that Doug Collins would get the Republican base and not beyond the base that essentially The the Party and the donors to the party would have to spend a lot of money to get Doug Collins into the Senate because he has become a lightning rod in the impeachment issue and in particular they were worried in the suburbs of Atlanta that Doug Collins could be an impediment for everyone now again. I think anyone who knows Doug Collins knows Doug Collins is a great guy I and he would be able to come across on the campaign trail authentically But there was a lot of thinking among people around the governor that a him being in so aggressively in favor of the president in the impeachment issue in the suburbs would actually work to the Republicans detriment because much like Brian. Kemp in two thousand thousand eighteen was viewed as trump's boy collins would be viewed as trump's boy anonymous own man and Brian Campus last year showing people. He's his own man including Ludi now. This standing up to the president's people in the president over Doug Collins That that he's got his own identity separate from the president Doug Collins on the other hand is viewed viewed as being tied to the president and they view that as a bad thing in the suburbs which should tell you the state of play the suburbs. Georgia come twenty twenty when internally internally even Republicans are realizing the president can be a liability in the suburbs with certain people that they want so you got a problem there so i. They looked looked at the the slate of candidates. My pick was Jason Dark Day from Holding County. I think you would've been great But the was not to be the Governor Governor settled on Kelly Laughlin. He and his wife apparently know her but she's not well known in politics. She he is someone. The Republicans tried to recruit in twenty fourteen And she declined. She declined import because she and her husband owned the company that purchased the New York Stock Exchange and they did so around that time in in believe she needed to stay put to help with that transaction in and so she did not run and David purdue ran instead they were looking for an outside corporate person to run. So it's GonNa Be Kelly Laughlin. She will be the pick. Socially conservative groups are not happy. They're not happy for a number of reasons and they got some legitimate gripes here. She sits on the board of Grady Hospital. It'll a grady hospital as a training ground for abortionist in Georgia. She is involved With Georgia Research Alliance which has advocated advocated for some scientists who do embryonic stem cell research as she has also been involved in a group that advocates for transgender rights. Or so I'm told us what the opposition position research says. Governor keeps people say that she is a devout Catholic a socially conservative and has a worldview to go with it that she is conservative But she's she's also a corporate business leader in by virtue of being as prominent in the business community as she is She has been on prominent board like Georgia Research Alliance Alliance in Grady Hospital in Georgia power. Things like that where you would expect someone of her stature in position to be whether she's conservative or not. They say that she will be socially conservative here. Here's let let's I don't WanNa dance around this with you. People will just be candid with you. If the governor's got this wrong he's toast and twenty twenty two. If the governor's got this wrong Republicans going to lose the Senate seat in twenty twenty. Now why do I say that Doug Collins is signaling again that he may still run for the Senate Doug Collins wanted and in fact I I gotta I'd say that To some degree Doug Collins of those around him Are Why we are in this position. The governor and his team never had an intention of giving this Doug Collins and because Collins and his team have been insistent that it is Doug Collins a seat and he should have it and he may run no matter. What the governor's team went out? They wanted to find someone who had large pockets of cash to sell fund and could also have a demographic play play that Doug Collins couldn't go against so rich woman who is self made against Doug Collins. How will that play suburb? Well that's fine for the general election but you gotta get you gotTa get through a Republican process as well. Keep in mind though that there will not be Republican primary. There'll be a republican process but not a primary the Republican processes Republican voters. They are going to have to Vet Kelly Laughlin decide whether or not Whether or not it works and I suspect that he's probably big and he's one on this because he can expand the base of voters in the suburbs who would vote Republican and he can do so without rocking the boat In doing so without rocking the boat. I mean Republican. Voters will look at her. They will hear from her and they will realize she really is one of us. She's not a Democrat Republicans are circulating. A picture of Kelly lafler standing next to Stacey Abrams Stacey Abrams and Kelly Law Florida. I don't really know each other. I'm told They happen to be an together and the same way. There are pictures of Brian. Kemp Stacey Abrams together. Here's the thing though. Let's just keep this real honest. One of the problem with Mitt Romney in two thousand eight and then again in two thousand twelve is Mitt. Romney said he was a conservative but he sounded good like he learned conservatism from Rosetta Stone. You know what Rosetta Stone is. Rosetta stone the foreign language. Course you can listen to the tapes. You can learn your foreign language Mitt Romney throughout the campaign twenty twelve remember. He was a severe conservative. That sort of stuff. He sounded like he had learned conservatism from Rosetta Stone. that it wasn't really a part of him in conservatives have been burned so often so many times by so many people who said they were one of them turned out not to be one of them. That that we're in this is where my concern for David. Purdue in two thousand fourteen in why didn't support him on the campaign trail. I'm delighted to have been proven wrong by David purdue but he was someone who He he was not fundamentally. Institutionally philosophically didn't sound like conservative turned out he is. I was wrong. The two were a lot of conservatives wrong about Kelly really loftier but you do need to understand the conservatives have been burned so many times by people who said they were one of them and were not that. They're deeply skeptical at the same Time you have a situation where conservatives always demand outsiders and we want an outsider outsider we got to have an outsider. We need it outside or establishments bad. Let's get an outsider here. COMES BRIAN KEMP and Brian picks an outsider and conservatives are livid Because the only way to have a conservative who checks the boxes of most of the conservative groups is to have someone who is an insider insider outsider for example. One of the questions. I've gotten from multiple conservatives is she's on the Board Grady Hospital she's on the Board of the Georgia Research Alliance and she's on the She's on she's on that board. She's on the Georgia. Power Board issue on the board a donor of or a big supporter of pro-life groups It's a relevant question but You know the majority of the people who are highly involved in those happen to be people in politics does she have any relationship to the Georgia lifelines. I I wish she would. She should but I don't know does she have any relationship to the the other pro-life groups she should but I don't think she does not so it. My website the resurgent Dot Com. I have a rule in the rule is very straightforward. The rule is that you've got to be pro-life to right on the front page of the research you have to be pro-life to right on the front page of the resurgent because it shapes sure worldview if you believe that all life is sacred in that life begins at conception you have a different way of looking at the world than if you think. Life is expendable casual accidental And and AA child in Utero is just tissue. It shapes the way you see the world shapes the way you reason it shapes the way you navigate issues it shapes the way you decide on policy positions that are not even directly linked linked to life issues. But it shapes your world you in such a way that shapes this issues and we don't know these things about Kelly Waffler we. We don't know anything about Kelly Law for. We don't know why hi. It looks like now it's been a done deal. I think it was somewhat of a fundamental mistake to let this drag out through the Thanksgiving break so that people could compile even more opposition research on her and I'm sure sure more is going to come although I do hear that At some point today law floor is going to. Luther is going to be announced at win but I hear it's going to happen today or at least they're going to make more formal hints hints. That it's her. They they need to go on and get her out. They need to get her out. They need to get her no. They need to get her vetted and she needs to go make inroads with conservative groups she needs is to sit down with them and she needs to have some philosophical conversations with them and she needs to be prepared for those conversations She needs to not sound like a conservative who learned conservatism from Rosetta Stone. She needs to sound like this is fundamentally part of her being that she recognizes all life is precious in life begins at conception and that life should be defended at all costs. She's support of the fetal heartbeat legislation solution. But is that I. I support as a matter of conviction or a matter of convenience. These are the things that we as a people need to know about Kelly law flourish. She gets settle the campaign trail if she doesn't have good answers for these things she's GonNa get a challenge from the right and she knows that so she'd better be prepared and I suspect Becht one of the reasons we haven't had her Russia gate. Those far is because she's got to get prepared and they are at this moment preparing her. I hope there is one thing that I think that Kelley law floor in her team need to do they need to understand and they need to get and we'll discuss that when we come back so I got some thoughts on the on the law flers situation. And here's here's my advice to her. I think Kelly law floor needs to make sure if she's GonNa be see the nominee she's GonNa move forward. She needs to make sure that she is surrounded with Brian. Kim's people you know there's all I forget the Lynn homeric I think she was a home depot executive. She's running for Congress in the seventh. Maybe she'll get some traction but so she's she's wealthy she can to some degree so fund fund apparently and she reached out to or had people reach out to her from Washington DC and has some outside consultants Zoltan. Who Don't really know Georgia running her race in? I saw the people running this lady's race and I thought man she is going to Be bled dry and probably lose news and that is my concern with cell phones you know. Republicans self funders actually have a terrible track record of getting elected and the reason Republicans sell funders. have terrible track record of getting elected to any office is because they go out in the higher the these he's hotshot consultants from Washington. DC and in. So do we know the consultant from Washington. DC They make a bunch of money whether the candidate loses or wins ends. They and they've got a pile of candidates are running the they don't just have. This person is a candidate this person because they're wealthy tends to be a little more out of touch with reality Alex and I don't mean that disparagingly but when you live in buckhead mansion or wherever and you you're not you're not doing your grocery shopping or what have you or so you're going to whole foods to buy everything and you're not going to your local ingles. Well you tend to be out of touch with the common man. He attended say or do things that are problematic. And and we've had this situation in the past Well I mean look at Mike Bloomberg running. We'll get into Bloomberg here a little bit. But you just get out of touch and you go to Washington you hire are these hotshot national consultants. Who Don't know anything about Georgia? They don't have the idiosyncrasies of Georgia like for example I worked for a guy one time He actually won. He Won. All might tell you it's actually chambliss. Sanctuary was I Volunteered with Saxby in nineteen ninety. Four I was in the college. Republicans A At mercer in making and he had this great fundraising consulted. She was she actually was very good at raising money but they they went down to core deal and she was from Chicago and the person who was supposed to introduce saxby welled up not being able to be there and so she decided she would get on stage and and do the introduction to the donors and she got on stage and she told the people how so excited Saxby was to be in court lay quarterly. Not Cordial win over exactly as you could imagine. Of course now the this was saxby so he did all. shucks why. We brought a Yankee down to help us. Raise money and She's going bankrupt the campaign and on and on and just I mean the crowd may eight it up when he responded very funny moment. But that's kind of the problem. My wife laughs at me all the time over over. How I I'll be any All I just say all but he it's all be any whatever K- row is at a Cairo vianna instead of you know we got down in south Georgia. Were my wife's family's from and Montezuma and Andy Andy we gotTa Halston County instead of Houston County and you gotta know these sorts of things you get a Washington. DC consulted come down. They they have no idea in. So you make little mistakes stakes over time in the little mistakes were just drip drip drip in. They add up. You gotta find someone who actually understands and actually knows the area but more than that. You've also got a fight. Someone who understands the dynamics here if Kelly law floor is the person she is then she's going to be on the ballot in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two she'll be on the ballot with David Produce Donald Trump in two thousand twenty. She'll the ballot with Brian. GimMe Twenty twenty two. She cannot do anything in Washington. DC that sabotages this. She can't do anything that sabotages Brian. Yep Brian Kemp is taking a big bet on Kelley law for I knew nothing about her in fact I got a reporter texting me right now asking if I know how to contact her I have no idea i. I've never met the woman I've never talked to the woman. I don't know anything about the woman other than what I've been told what I'm told. She is a conservative. What I'm told she is a business person? What I'm told is the reason she's on these boards is by virtue of being in business And her position in life this is she got asked to be on these things. They needed a woman they needed a woman business. There aren't a ton of women in business in Georgia her level and so she's on a lot of board for a lot of groups that are full of of elites that elites love all these things and she may not but she's on the boards. Do we know if she ever stood up. Do we know if shivers anything. I got nothing for you. I don't know what I do know is that Brian Kemp is fundamentally a person who understands. He's got to have a conservative with him. What what I do know? Is that fundamentally Brian Kemp is he. He's he may not be a socially conservative me in some aspects but Brian Kemp is At an intuitive twitter level conservative he's not progressive and. Brian understands that Georgia needs a Jordan in frankly My position on on this entire affair is that Brian campus earned my trust to take a risk. He Ran Against Casey cable. When people said he had no chance it's and he won he signed the fuel heartbeat legislation when people said that it would destroy him in the GOP and he one time and time again? Brian Guilt has stood up and taken risks and those risks have paid off for four him. And I think this is another one of those examples where we should Let Brian Kemp take a risk and see if it pays off. I assume that it will I. I assume she'll be conservative. And I assume we'll be fighting out anytime and I've invited her all this program to roller out when we come back we gotta talk about another race out there already. alrighty We are back your accent here. The Erik Erikson show across Georgia the full number eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four. I five joining me now from Texas an actual friend of mine and are you know people say oh. Members of Congress are friends of mine and no. This is an actual into happens to be a congressman congressman chip. Roy Loyd who's a announcing your relection today down in Texas aren't you I am Eric. Thanks for having me on you and Christine your wonderful family at a at a blessed Thanksgiving weekend we did. I hope you did too. We did we had a good time with family and friends and You know there is. Despite all of the negatively there is much to be thankful for and I think We would do well to remember that as people get wrapped around the twitter and social media axle and not all the things revolve around Washington DC. What's that on? Meet the press on Sunday morning but rather what happened in our homes and our church pews and and Thanksgiving's in good reminder of that yeah like that. LSU Texas aid game than a mutual friend of ours. WHO's the outgoing secretary of energy I- i- I resisted texting him about it this weekend? Well you know that. Hit the little close to home with my lovely bride. Who Dog show Hey look we're I mean. I was speaking for this Roy. We're all tiger right now I want Lsu to do Ride in and have I want them to have a good March through guy. They're in Georgia. You got some. Yeah you're putting me in a difficult position now I am. Hey you went there. You went there. Yup Yup but yeah that's true that's fair all right well. We're not here to talk about that. Were here job at your campaign. Wendy Davis who ran for governor who came to fame by I filibustering a pro-life measuring the Texas legislature. She Charan for governor lost Flirted with I guess running for the Senate it didn't and now she wants to run for your congressional we'll see and meanwhile you're over there serving the people Texas but the country is well with Being in Congress well that's right you know. I announced two years years ago this last week. I ninety days to get through a crowded primary When Lamar Smith announced they were able to retiring represents? The area between Osborne Payment Tonio From Downtown Austin down to fourteen in San Antonio and all through the hill country Fredericksburg and and curb L. and it's a great district When Davidson decided she wants to run again after getting some airily dismissed by Governor Abbot in twenty fourteen iming she Is Looking to try to continue to make political name for herself but at the end of the day she's completely out of stopped. What the vast regarding taxes particularly those in the district I represent you? Well you know as well as I do. She made her name on the floor of the Texas Senate filibustering posturing to try to Preserve and promote third trimester abortion. I've don't think that's a really good. Reason to be filibustering the former body. I was proud to stand next Ted Cruz. His effort to try to stop out of control. Healthcare prices and protect freedom for Americans impacting In that good reason. The on the fourth filibustering but We're excited we're now today we're filing this afternoon We've got you know well over. We're a million dollars cash on hand but we gotta get a lot more so anybody out there wants to go visit chip Roy dot com. I'd appreciate anything from five bucks to fifty six hundred but we're We're getting geared up to To get out this and look. I'm honored to run against Wendy Davis. She's out of step liberal. WHO believes in a boy's running against girls and track meet the leaves? The government should take your gone And believes that Being a new green deal is going to be good for America the price of their energy. I don't think that's going to l.. Let me ask you about this when one of the things. I'm finding when we've seen this in Georgia as well with certain candidates is that in district they say all sorts of conservative things things and then they fundraise nationally with a bunch of Progressives Supporting the green new deal and stuff like that and you would never know about by just painted digital what they say on the campaign trail. Well that's right of course wanted the dirty little secrets as you know is that Politicians in both parties do a whole lot of campaign in one way and going to Washington she than doing the other and that is something that I've tried to do. Is You know and the friend I ask. You always the hold me accountable That when I went to DC. I try to do it differently. The and I worked before the House to Jack to nineteen and a half billion dollars getting passed by unanimous consent. I was before the house to demand. Fifty or sixty votes owed the wiki get border security funding And I've tried to stand up and fight for a balanced budget and for Making sure that we secure the border and and give our men and women a clear mission number do healthcare and those are all the things campaigned on. Wendy Davis on the other hand will try to say that she somehow moderate when she's campaigning in the country in Texas but but she's been pretty aggressive in her promotion of a progressive US online on twitter. She's embraced the Brady Organizations Shins An M M taking positions about you know Confiscating our weapons. And she's out there hardcore obviously on our abortion views She can't run on from there and I could go down. The list grew green new deal or other things. She's out of step. People in Texas are GONNA know it but she can look Shakin spend a lot of money because you're able to raise a lot of money as a cause the lab two hundred thousand twitter followers and so she'll raise money and she'll spend a lot of money in too expensive media market so I'll need help to get a bad message out and then when we do that we'll we'll send her packing again. Well it I wanna ask you pulled up your twitter feed One of the things you regularly tweet about as far as an issue that galvanize you and is when you and I have spent a Lotta time all flying talking about is the national debt and it seems like neither party is committed to actually dealing with what even the joint chiefs are saying has become a national security issue. Well I'm glad you I'm glad you brought that up Your correct there is not as serious resolve beyond a handful of my colleagues particularly in the Freedom Caucus. You attack this very serious problem. And the problem isn't just the debt that racking up twenty three trillion dollars hours now one hundred million dollars an hour. We're racking up Eric. Literally one hundred million an hour. It's not just that number that astounding it's where funding the very government and bureaucrats that are constantly attacking our freedoms and our way of life were funding agencies that we then bemoaned and why it's so bureaucratic and difficult to get things done. We're funding funding the bureaucratic state that frankly Going after the president right now there's a whole lot of things that we learned from there but look we have a fundamental duty to balance the budget. And so I've got some reforms that I'm going to put forward pretty soon. I I introduced the resolution not long ago saying we should put a debt clock in each of the appropriations and Budget Committee rooms. Some people think that the gimmick I don't think so I think members should have to stare at that clock walk when they're sitting at the Diet and those committee rooms and look at that number kicking up and I think I'm going to introduce legislation this week or soon that's going to Limit the ability of members of Congress to raise money while they're failing to do their job to balanced budget And I think there are other things we can do to try to start pushing back on the failures of AH colleagues in Washington. So how would this work. Limit their ability to raise money while doing that. Well the idea is and we're still working on it. Any feedback appreciated appreciated. But the idea is simply that if you come in when you're elected new Congress first of all. I think we should go to biennial budgeting and appropriation taxes. Does that very effectively. We budget inappropriate for two year cycle that matches up with the term of a congressman or or a state rep in Texas. So you minimize the velocity of all of the device overspending. You can have one big debate about how much we should spend. Do it for the Congress and then move onto oversight and other items and it would give give you more time to get it done. Secondly though I think when you come in January in your sworn in you shouldn't immediately out raising money you should be limited an unable to raise money until either the end of that year in September or Whether if you've actually passed a balanced budget and got it through the House and and if you've done those things then you can raise money. We're still working on the details of that but Lynn Texas. You're not allowed to raise money when you're in the legislative session. You never two years. You're supposed to sit there doing your job instead of going around doing fundraiser. I mean Congress could use a dose of that. Yeah you know it is unusual most states including Georgia and Texas. Both have that prohibition that you can I I guess congressmen would say well. It's a fulltime job. Where always here? I it's always boggled my mind as to why why we need congress in Washington and of course. They're not but I mean. Why do we need? The country was perfectly fine until the nineteen twenties and thirties without a fulltime. All Time Congress I just I have a hard time wondering why do we need so many more new laws after two hundred some odd years. Don't we have enough Yes yes we have too many laws. We should cut a lot of those laws. If you don't follow the one is it crime day. You should on twitter. Yeah He he post ludicrous law. Virtually every day But Yeah we have many laws we frankly have too much noise. I've never been in a place in my life where there is more activity with less productivity than the halls halls of Congress there is committee hearings and meetings and you run around and you go vote in your causally avenue. Just run like your hair's on fire and we never actually do anything meaningful if we did nothing but focus on finding a way to get to a ten year balanced and then hold balance in terms of spending will nevertheless be something and so we should focus and do our job. I don't know the exact mechanism but I believe we should be prohibited from raising money for the first. You know six or nine months of Congress and so we can focus on doing our job and then you know lift the valve off and you can go raise money or did you get your job done and you spend balance. The budget appropriations done. Okay now you can go back raising. Are you money. So we're going to work on that but put the Put a bow around it and get it out. It's I'm talking to you if you're just tuning in. I'm talking to Congressman Ship Roy. And you're announcing your reelection election day. Did you give me the website again. Where people can go if they WANNA help and let people know how they can help? It's chip Roy. C. H. I. P. R. O. Y.. Ship Roy DOT COM We're we're getting out there. This is our official announcement day. We're we're announcing our reelection Nobody should be surprised. I've been out raising money but I wanted to hold off and and do it. I don't think we should be campaigning. All the time and so I wanted to wait are filing deadline Texas next Monday dog balls. You get out there. Airing officially announce that we're going to do rally San Antonio today but we've got so much that we can do. If we just get a handful of people you don't Benita majority a handful of conservative people standing up and fighting you can change things the thirty second example. I know you're on a time. Crunch is this summer when little. Oh backbencher freshman ship Roy. At first year had the Speaker of the House staff coming to him is they. What will you do to stop? Stop the pain. When I forced fifty or sixty votes in June because we needed the dollars for the supplemental to deal the border CRICHTON? Nobody was fighting. We stood up and fighting the freedom caucus members joined and we forced to vote and we got it done and they're able to start getting the numbers going down now. The numbers are far less than they were in. May Eat is not not hard to do our job. We just have to do it. Well we WANNA keep you. They're doing your job and I appreciate you stop by good luck to you on the campaign trail as well and and at some point we'll have to discuss with you Mayo that my wife is trying to convince the kids that are family vacation this coming your needs to be out in your neck of the woods. Well you should do it and you got a spot here here. Come visit us. Give you a beautiful wife Hog and we'll talk golfing. alrighty chip Roy Congressman from Texas in. Yes by the way. If you're wondering that is the same congressman ship Roy. Who held up the disaster relief down in south Georgia over the summer but he did so just as he was saying here on principle issue wasn't opposed to the funding? He was deeply deeply opposed to. If you'll recall the Democrats at slid a bunch of provisions in chew the Emergency Supplemental Bill and He was willing to take the fire from even folks here in Georgia by opposing a unanimous consent resolution because the Democrats had slid a bunch of spinning. And and that's what they do in. The twin of his concerns is time. Hi and time again. Democrats in Congress and Republicans in Congress. Both they do. These emergency supplementals like with disaster in south Georgia and they they pile a bunch of unrelated things in and they know that. Everyone's GonNa WanNa pass this out quickly and no one's GonNa actually want to read the legislation and realized that there were carve outs else for Nancy. Pelosi's friends and and Nah John Banners friends or whatever. The the Republican leaders friends are. And you're just got out of control spending a he supported reported the actual emergency disaster. Relief Down South Georgia's just opposed all the other stuff that got piled in sight unseen and the exposure caused them to pull some of those things out the the final legislation actually Went down in price because they yanked out some of those stupid provision. They tried to pile in it gets Spillover and I realized he was vilified by some people down in south Georgia for doing that. Governor KIP blasted him. But I've got us back on this I. It's my numbing to me as it is for him to see see people in Congress say we gotta help the farmers in south Georgia and they don't really want to help the farmers and south Georgia. They won a pile a bunch of stuff in for their friends in cronies and then use the farmers and south Georgia's cover to reward their friends and he shine the spotlight on and got vilified for doing so any any held his ground. And frankly I think we need more people like that in Congress you one of the first things he did when he got into. Congress CHIEF-OF-STAFF WADE and wade go out and try to find a debt clock for his office. which we're hard to come by? They've got one in downtown Atlanta now. They've got a new national debt clock in Atlanta. Show you how. The national debt is accumulating. We need more guys. Like chip in Congress He's he's not in Georgia he's in Texas but he's a must win seat for the GOP and for the Democrats they've got a far left radical. Wendy Davis running against him. He could use all the help he can get AS HE RAISES MONEY TO CAMPAIGN THERE CHIP Roy Dot com his website. And we won't hold it against. He's actually Virginia guys wife's the Aggie but and I guess we need to deal with the Lsu Georgia race when we come back. Don't we the full number. Here is eight. Seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five buddy of mine who lives over in Alabama tweeted out the largest megachurches in Alabama Jordan Hare Stadium in Bryant Denny Stadium. Adm Man that Auburn Alabama game. Goodness gracious we were. I took the kids to. There's this pizza restaurant Dennard. Born Arabas is an years ago. They used to mill their own wheat. McDonnell flower I don't think they do that anymore. it's still a great pizza. Place my father's place on Moody Road Warner Robins of your down that way and so I took the kids down there. Kristie didn't want to go to the kids down there and everybody in that place was staring at their phones Watching the live stream of the Alabama over here. I mean the whole place was quiet. It was hilarious. Yeah the only thing you could hear off people's phones were was the Auburn in Alabama game which was Absolutely crazy to think you're in a restaurant and everybody sitting there watching this game. We'll you couldn't help it if you if you got an iphone and you you you set up your your sports package or whatnot through Apple TV. You get a text message. And I'm sitting at the restaurant and get a text message that Alabama that Auburn has pulled ahead of Alabama and everybody must have gotten the exact same text message because suddenly everybody stops what they're doing and pulls out the gets gets on their phones and starts pulling up the livestream if they can the if they CBS sports or somehow people were in there trying to get one guy. Had it turned on the volume. And everybody's just listen. Do the game is. They're eating their pizza oblivious. To the fact that the carbonation has gone on on the fountain drink surveys having to drink either water eliminated at the restaurant that night but then Saturday I started the by the way I am. I allowed to admit this but I'm going to are. We allowed to hate people who already they have their Christmas cards out. I mean I realize it's now technically December but my Lord e- even overdoing Christmas cards. This year normally we do Christmas. Discards but we We didn't get a family picture taken and I guess we probably should have over Thanksgiving normally. I'm the one who does it but we all estate super casual and relaxed over Thanksgiving so we didn't do it in already got people. We had Christmas cards like we got back from Thanksgiving on on Friday. We went up to my in laws Wednesday and Thursday came back. Friday got here Friday evening wind check the mail and already had the Christmas card like seriously already eat is Monday December second. And we've already got people Chris because this is just I hate you people. who were that organized? I I realize it's it's jealousy but it comes across the state and I just need to be honest with you. I I've I've been organized and we do everything through through minted. Which has our address address book and so it automatically labels? I'm just we're not there yet. Folks I'm sorry. Were not there but so I went outside at halftime from the Georgia Georgia Tech Game and started decorating and on Saturday. And I I lost track of time and I did not go back inside and then I started seeing all of my neighbors with their Georgia Apparel on and they they were all outside and thought man. This game really was a massive blow out. Wasn't it it. Just Hey Siri. What was the Georgia Georgia Georgia Tech Football Score? Well serey normally does this. Pretty deep progressively. But Siri doesn't WANNA work. Let's just I was hoping that we could just relive this with Siri giving us the score but Siri doesn't want to cooperate so I'll just tell you fifty two two the seven. I assume everybody here knows it was fifty two to seven but I just want to reiterate it was fifty two to seven because my abbey in Athens were our flagship station is W.. LBJ You got. I know she was at the game and I'm sure she just wants to hear these. Words uttered repeatedly fifty two two seven. No offense to my Georgia tech from my father-in-law is a Georgia. The Tech Guy and my daughter when she heard the score texted to see how he liked. The game did not go over well at all L. O. Rubbing and now we've got this conundrum because you know I'm a native of Louisiana in my rule of thumb has always been that if Lsu played Georgia in Georgia. I'd root for Georgian of Georgia Played Lsu at Lsu. I would root for Lsu but we're kind of at the Okay I'm going to be tough. Can I just root for the winter. It's going to be unless you can. I just root for the winner of this game. That's coming up. Will you all eight me. If I go there all right enough of this we we gotta move onto other stuff We've got the Democrats on the campaign trail. And we've got Steve Bullock look. I bet you didn't even know that bullet was running. Bullock was the governor of Montana and me and I had Republicans telling me that. Gosh we hope. This guy doesn't get traction. He could really give trump a run for his money and I was telling him you know. Relax this guy is not gonna get any traction The Democrats they want celebrity a bullet Kes- his skeletons tunes in the closet and no celebrity and then Joe Sestak. I forgot SESTAK was even running and he's already dropped out and then there's the other Guy Divall Patrick The great hope of the Democratic Party is not getting any traction. No one showing up his events in the media. Just isn't sure what to make of any of this we'll explore. When we come back I was reminded again over the weekend? How ingenious quips design is? I'm talking about the electric toothbrush. It vibrates every thirty seconds at pulses. So you know to change around your mouth you get a very even brushing listen. I've been using the quit for three years now. Now maybe I'm on my second. 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A Christmas program That I do on Christmas Eve and Redo on Christmas and I've done that on my Atlanta show for years and we'll be doing it here as well on Christmas Eve and Christmas And I like to spin this month in my writings. Also talking about advent season though I'm Presbyterian I'm I've never never really been into advent wreaths advent calendars and whatnot and a lot of churches are Kinda get why I don't necessarily think it's it's necessary but there or is an aspect to all of this that I want to spend a few minutes with and that is depression and the season if we can keep but real here for a little bit You may be stressed about the holiday season having just come through thanksgiving. You're now thinking about Christmas. Maybe you like me have done your Christmas cards and you're starting to stress. We even do. A M- Gosh. How much will it cost? Who Do I need to send them to or shopping? There's a story on and I asked Chris Burns to stop by tomorrow from dynamic money to talk to us about the stress of the holiday season and Dan spending This is this is a difficult time for a lot of people. It is a time. MM-HMM WIND suicide rates. Go up it is time. Hey L.. Listen I I said we were going to keep it real right now. let's just have a heart to heart on this. This is a time where depression spikes there are people who are lonely they do not have family. The media sells them in image of Christmas. The hallmark channel sells them an image of Christmas. That doesn't pan out for many of them and they want that that in because they see it in culture they see it on TV. They think that there must be something wrong and they go in search of it. UH-HUH I understand why people get overwhelmed at this time of year. We live in a society right now. where the numbers show shows that there is full employment? Everybody's got a job who wants a job. Everybody's got a job who get a job. Some people are working two jobs and those jobs obser- being counted as one job because they're making eight hours a day even though they're barely making money you got people who are struggling and I realized we're Democrats are in power Progressives or not supposed to talk about how bad some people have it in. When Republicans are in power conservatives are not supposed to talk about? How bat is out there for some people? But let's just admit there are people out there who through no fault of their own are not gainfully employed right now. They're struggling to make ends meet their here in the headlines is that everybody's got a job they don't have a job but everybody's got a job there in that three point four percent here in Georgia who don't have a job Many of them through physical or mental defect like no fault of their own. But some because they've got skill sets that don't line up with what people need these days. There are farmers who are out of work right now. There are farmers filing for bankruptcy. There are farmers who can't even file for bankruptcy because they know that there's just no point they're going to lose everything in so so I would encourage everyone here to be mindful of that. I would encourage you to be mindful of your neighbor. Your friend who everything looks great on the outside but on the inside. There's something amiss. Yes there. There is a level of stress. There is my church that I go to I go to first Presbyterian and making and we collect a lot of money every year for a lot of causes and on Sundays when we we only do communion communion the Lord's supper once a month There are theological reasons. We only do it once a month. I realized there are a lot of churches that have gone to every week. Because that's what clearly church did but just as a random tangent scripture says that if you take it improperly with an impure heart you haven't repented a bad things can happen in with our church they wanna give everyone notice and time and be aware and prepare yourself and they don't want everybody to take it for granted and they also. I think that if we did it every week it would just become kind of a wrote routine people would stop. S- people would start taking for granted and people would stop preparing themselves for it and and given give him a prescriptions options in scripture. We just we do it. What's a month when we do it once a month? We also taken offering at the door when people are leaving church and all the money that's put into the offering place goes to our church and that money is go- goes to take care of people in our church. Our church is quite generous with people with our church but I know people in our church who have fallen on hard times who because of pride or or other reasons refuses to acknowledge that they need help and it is harder and harder particularly. We've been terrible about going to church this year. We really have Confess my sins. I have been bad about going to church. My whole family's been bad. We have been sick when after the other. We've been traveling We we've come up with all sorts of excuses to not go to church in. There are some issues there but but there are a lot of people who go to church regularly who are on hard times and they don't want any one of the church to know about it they don't want to ask for help it is mostly a matter of pride and it is something that I think. Churches that succeed in thrive do good at is having a membership in a congregation a leadership that is in tuned enough with the sensibilities of its members to know when something is wrong and go find them but there are many many more people out there who don't go to church regularly who they don't feel that love they do go to church and they show up at eleven on a Sunday and they're there for the hour and they leave and they're not otherwise part of the church community there. Are Those without the community. There are those without any faith community there. Are Those without any family around. There are those who they don't know where to go. And those are the people who fall under the radar and I don't know that I have the solution to find those people people the ones who don't want community who don't seek out community you don't have the same trait that no man is an island But the reality is where we are communal creatures. I do. The I preached on Genesis One before and is actually very funny very the first time I ever preached I appreciate Colorado and an event and it was a it was kind of funny. It was a political religious event. And the people who are in politics were asked to talk about religion. The the people who religion were asked to talk about politics and I was asked to give the Sunday sermon because I'm had been in seminary and they wanted something out of the box and so I- preached reached on preached on Genesis One specifically appreciate Genesis one one And one of the things I said you can derive from Genesis. One one is that God once a relationship with us and because we are created in God's image we want relationships with each other God says that he needed to create e for atom. Because man should not be alone and there are a lot of people who are increasingly alone. There are a lot of people who increasingly turn on line. One of the common traits of a lot of the radicalism. We've found in this country over the last several several years as mass shootings have gone up and and more and more young mostly white men have been involved in shootings is that they have traded their off. Flight Physical interactions with people for an online community. That looks just like them and they seem very much. Engaged in plugged plugged in. But the reality is it's it's a false engagement It is a false community and the reality is they're actually isolated and more and more we find people who are isolated in that way I was talking to Dr Laura last week about We go online and we find our we build our communities and our communities. These look just like us thing just like a sound just like us believe just like us behave just like us act just like us function just like us are charitable just like us and in in our are isolating we are Less able to get along. Less charitable less less willing to show empathy or sympathy for people who disagree with us because we encounter those those people less and less. They're not in our community that we've made online and it becomes very easy over time to decide that these people are bad in once. Those people are bad they become our enemy. We see this on the left. And right and Politics Arctic's these days We all go a we engage in politics with people who think in look just like us and it becomes easy to other is of the people on the other side. They're no longer our opponents. They're our enemies there. They no longer have different ideas of what might work best for this country. They have ideas that we think will destroy the country and in some cases that's true but in most cases it's not just have a different way of looking at the world based on their own life experiences and we presume that based on their life experiences that they're wrong they're bad and now they're evil we isolate ourselves and that is part of the problem in politics right now. It is part of the problem in society as a whole is is we live isolated seleted existences and here. We are in the holiday season and there are people in isolation they don't even realize in some cases derisively because her custody really plugged. They're getting messages for people on facebook. They're on social media. They're on instagram. Seen pictures of other people. They're posting memes but they never leave the house the only physical people they encounter when they go to a restaurant or a grocery store and it it fuels a depressive state. At this time of year you may encounter your family at Thanksgiving you sit around the table and you realize because you've isolated yourself that that you really don't have anything in common with your family anymore you don't you can't talk about things outside of the stuff you interact with people I I I know people. I know very well a few friends of mine. Who can't talk about anything other than politics? These days it is so all consuming to them it is all they do. Twenty four seven politics. It's one reason I like to cook so much. Just one reason. I snapped recipes on here. It it's one reason. And by the way I'm GonNa sit out my Ginger molasses cookie recipe In a couple of days if you want a text recipe two three three seven seven seven if you're already on the list were you don't have to do it but if you're not on the recipe list recipe. ESPN two three three seven seven seven great. Ginger snap ginger molasses cookie recipe great for this holiday season. It's one reason I do. That though is to have something to talk about something to engage with other than politics these days politics has become so all consuming for people who has taken the place of religion People have have they. They've got sacraments they've they've got dogma. They've got worth at oxy all in politics and everyone who disagrees as a heretic Anita burning and that all becomes Israel during the holiday season when you have people who. They've isolated themselves politically. They've isolated themselves physically. They've isolated themselves elves online and they no longer relate to people in the outside world and they need to be dragged back into the outside world. They need to be dragged. Back Doc into a relational existence with other people and sometimes the people don't want it because prideful. They've gotten themselves in a bind. They don't want to admit that they've messed up. And it all becomes very difficult during the Christmas period in particular because during the Christmas period we see the hallmark channel shows and we we see the commercials on TV and we see the ads and everyone's happy and everyone's smiling and everyone's around plenty in bountiful presence in a tree with lots so beautifully wrapped things underneath it. And it stresses people out and we don't have that and that's not a real world the real world is messy. The real world is broken. The real world is sinful. The real world is dirty in the real world. People don't have piles and piles of presents under the tree in the real world. We don't have massive amounts of people with the perfectly brown Turkey sitting in the middle of the table while we're all holding holding hands and smiling and talking and in the inter-racial mix diversity family of everyone sitting around and and smiles and singing. We don't have any of that it. It may be the ideal but it's not the real world real world is messy. The real world is five of a sit around the table. And we've cut up the Turkey and we've got it on everybody's plate or we've got a piled on the kitchen counter. Go go feed yourself and come sit at the table together. But we're not going to display it like that in the real world. People's presents are wrapped terribly the bows are just so the real world in the ideal or different and at this time of year consumerism commercialism alyssum culture the media pushes hard the ideal. The pretend and we could Paul remember. We could use it for ourselves mentally that we're not perfect and life's not perfect and life's not fair and what matters matters is not the perfectly rap pile of presents under the tree but the people in your life and there are those of us who have isolated ourselves so much from. I'm real people in the real world and it's not good for us to be alone and if you are alone I hope you'll find someone or somewhere with a physical reality -ality where you can actually go be an exist with other people and not just online because it's not healthy for you and if you know people who who have withdrawn from society withdrawn from friendships withdrawn from reality that you may commit to yourself that this holiday season you may go try to pull that person. Back into a relational experience with other human beings off line. Because it'll do you good to do that. It will do them a great deal. We have become a people creatures of habit who have disengaged from each other and we need to re engage with each other in the real world and now is a great time to do it as we head into the Christmas season. I mentioned the recipes That I send out I I can't tell you the number of people who have reached out to me by email or twitter or instagram. Who actually made that gravy recipe? I made the gravy recipe myself and I learned something about the gravy recipe. I doubled it in every way and turns out. You don't actually have to add a half cup of flour. If you double double felt vaguely do you keep it with a where. I've never actually doubled it before but I did and I mean it turned out fine. Everybody liked it but I thought he got. He got a little bit too thick with with that it. Just keep it a quarter cup of flour. Four cups of liquid in the recipe calls for a Quarter Cup of flour with a two cups of liquid. But it would work worked fine With four but it was still good it was still good The flower just didn't Brown as much as I needed it to But a lot of you sit me Thanks thanks for that recipe. And I'm happy to keep doing that just so you can break bread around the table with your friends and family in in have good stuff. And I'll sit out this cookie recipe later this week. You can text recipe recipe two three three seven seven seven Well we still got other stuff we need to talk about including I I. I put off Zodda for the beginning of Doug Collins. He was on with with Chris Wallace over the weekend talking about impeachment and suggested he may still run for the Senate Law flirter has her work cut out for her ensuring during that conservatives actually Stand down and support her and rally around her. But this is Doug Collins talking to Chris Wallace Sir over the weekend first and foremost the first person needs to testifies Adam. Schiff Adam Schiff is author of their support. Adam Schiff has been the author of many things. A lot of them found to be false over the past couple of years. But he's going to be the author this report. He's compared himself in the past to a special counsel this is what he said he was doing. Well and we go back to Clinton and and the Knicks Putting Clinton Ken Starr was a special counsel he he presented or aboard the judiciary he actually came in and testified under oath and took questions from all sides including the White House. My first and foremost witnesses. Adam Schiff so you WANNA in a brain in before the committee not just to present a report but take questions from Democrats. Want to be cross-examined if you will by the Republicans he needs to be. He's put himself into that position if he chooses not to. Then I really questioned his veracity and what. He's putting in his report. I questioned his motives of wise. Doing it. It's easy to hide behind a report. Four is easy to hide behind a gavel intelligence committees behind closed door hearings. But it's going to be one another thing to actually get up and have to answer questions about what his staff knew how he knew what he deal about the whistle the report his interaction that he's had with Ukraine the other things that he's had over time in this process and also blah. He still not released documents to our committee and reports committee that we need to actually proceed in our Committee Judiciary Committee which is the committee of impeachment. I have a question. Why are they hiding this stuff from us if they think they have such? JK Gillis all the materials and don't let Jerry Nadler Roddick crazy letter this on the six let us know your who your witnesses are. We don't even have the information from from the Intel Committee yet. Yeah this is why this is a problem. Exercise and simply a made for TV event. Coming on Wednesday Yup. It is made for TV event that they're going to have I. You know I I think Doug Collins is honestly the the governor may be doing 'cause he is right where he needs to be he really is And it is. It's tell. Lean to me that Nancy Pelosi moved impeachment as much as she. It could into the intelligence committee in large part to take Doug Collins off the stage And now there. There's no way to avoid going back to the Judiciary Committee and Collins is going to be on the stage. Any runs circles around the Democrats on this stuff. He's just that good and he's a nice guy in the Democrats liking to and that makes it more difficult for the Democrats McGrath because Doug Collins is someone. It's not easy to hate Doug Collins. He's a nice guy and even the Democrats know it and they recognize it in behind the scenes. They all very much like the guy and they knew he puts points on the board not just for the president but undermining their case. And if he's going to make a big deal about Adam Schiff and what Adam Schiff the whistleblower did. That's not good news for the Democrats kratz which is another reason a lot of reporters starting to think they're not actually going to push impeachment into the Senate will discuss when we come back the phone number here. Eight seven seven nine seven Eric. Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five mentioned earlier. The Democrats still having trouble getting traction over Had A handle impeachment and getting support from voters I. I played this in the first hour. But it's worth going back to Chris Cillizza Paragon of conventional digital wisdom at CNN. Talking about why he thinks voters are really cared about impeachment right. Now I'd say Jim that Democrats if you ask them last Friday did. Did those hearings go how you wanted them to they would say not in our wildest dreams. Did we think Gordon Sunland for example would say yes there was a quid pro quo that those hearings went better than they could've imagined So I would say Democrats would have been much happier if those numbers had moved up five or ten points but I would also caution that we we people like you and I are paid you. Follow this stuff extremely closely. The average person is gearing up for Thanksgiving Looking ahead to Christmas And so I think there's an element to which we have to take a big cleansing breath and think to yourself. It's possible that this will take a little bit longer longer to seep into the body politic the average voter and then let's give it two three four weeks and see where we're at. I listen I. I'm not a huge fan of the Chris Cillizza analysis of anything. I'm sorry I heard the Saudi when the first hour and it dawned on me part of what he said at the end. LemMe Lemme replay this in so you can hear why like why my brain is frozen on this I WANNA I wanNA highlight for you a section and again I I realized I I played this in the first hour But it just it. Suddenly it tripped a switch in my brain. This time that it didn't the first time in so interesting is that I can see in the audio file on the way file. There is a pause before he says this part and I want to get there with you but let's play this again and then we need to highlight and I'd say Jim that Democrats if you ask them last Friday did. Did those hearings go how you wanted them to they would say not in our wildest dreams we Gordon Sunland for example would say yes. There was a quid pro quo that those hearings went better than they could've imagined So I would say Democrats would have been much happier appier. Those numbers had moved up five or ten points. But I would also caution that we people like you and I are paid. You follow this stuff extremely closely. The average person is gearing up for Thanksgiving Looking ahead to Christmas And so I think there's an element to which we have to take a big listen into the inhale their here here. We go live. Now listen to this last part breath and think to yourself. It's possible that this will take a little bit longer to seep into the body politic the average voter and then let's give tune three or four weeks and see where we're at. Let's give it to three or four weeks since he where it's at Y'all this this started in September. We began having inquiries in October. We had public testimony over a multi week period in in November. They're going to have more this week. And you know impeachment polling shifted between the beginning of the year and the Ukraine crane matter because of the Ukraine as gone any further. It hasn't gone any further and the reason it hasn't gone any further is because the Democrats are having a hard time getting any Republicans remember. They said it needed to be bipartisan of. This fort has one of the reasons that they're having have a hard time getting Republicans and even independence now is well. Let's Robert Jobson the he's the founder of bet black entertainment it the entertainment television you take a look at what. President trump has done in the last several months particularly the conversation surrounding the US. China trade spat. I'm is his to lose. Do you think I think it's I think the president president has always been in a position where it's his to lose based on he's bringing sort of disruptive force into what would be called political norms. I don't care whether it's is his way. He conducts foreign policy. The way he takes on the a a the government agencies and they deals with immigration. He brings his style now. A lot of people particularly those who voted for those who've over again in the the next election like that style. I think what the Democrats have to do is to be careful not to get caught up in stylistic trump and more substantive trump stylistic versus substantive trump there are a lot of voters who like the style of the president and it comes off right now in fact Ah Axios has a a story today trump the marketer in chief when it comes to impeachment that he he has his own message on impeachment. Well in the this is befuddling Democrats on the campaign intro because the Democrats campaign trail would actually like to be talking about impeachment because it provides them a great contrast with Donald Trump it provides them away to to distinguish themselves against the president instead. They're having some really embarrassing moments on the campaign trail including for Mike Bloomberg. who had this appalling interview interview with Margaret Hoover on PBS? Where he denies the Communist Party regime is a dictatorial regime listed? So this is Margaret Hoover on PBS interviewing Mike Bloomberg about climate change and she brings up China. You need to listen. To how Bloomberg characterizes is. This will if I way to build it up in the mess myself up here. We go accounts for about fifteen percent of global greenhouse gas emissions China accounts for roughly thirty percent of gas emissions. How do we even if we get to net zero? How do you get China? India and the other countries Mesa check China is doing lot yes still building a bunch of qualify power plants burning coal. Yes they are. They are now moving plants away from the cities. The the the Communist Party wants to stay in power in China and they listen to the public when the public says. I can't breathe the air shaping not a dictator. He has to satisfy his constituents. or He's not gonNA survive. No he has his constituency to to to to Answer to vote. He doesn't have a democracy if advises. Gabriel it's just a revolution you're not going to have a revolution. Nobody's no government survives without the will of the majority of its people. Okay it it's just yeah he he has to deliver services. The Chinese Communist Party looks at Russia and they looked for where the Communist Party is and they don't find it anymore and they they don't want that to happen. I mean the idea that the Chinese government is responsive to sort of a democratic expression of fresh air. I mean I am looking at the people well in Hong Kong back in the days when you have big pollution in Beijing. And they're doing something about it. That's that's that's ridiculous. The trouble is you can't overnight move cement plants and power plants just outside the city that are polluting the air and you have to have their product so oh some of it takes time and this always in in government even governments we would call it a democracy there's lots of stakeholders who have vested interests and and they have an impact and that's why if you listen to the young millennials. Let's go in and solve the problem overnight. Yeah that'd be great if you didn't have to fund it and get it through legal things so we wouldn't call it. A Democracy Bloomberg seems to think that somehow the Chinese Communist Party the Chinese government that it's a democracy even the we wouldn't call it a democracy by the way I got to imagine the national campaign trail the his New York accent isn't GonNa play well but he's refusing to be contrary to this is a man who is assured of his righteousness because is none of the synchophant surround. The billionaire have dared to challenge him and he certainly did not like Margaret Hoover challenging him on this issue and he notice again Dan LE. Let's let's play the very beginning of this. The premise being the The the Chinese communists are still burning coal. They've moved them out of the city's so the United States currently accounts for about fifteen percent of global greenhouse gas emissions China accounts for roughly thirty percent of the. How do we even we get to net zero? How do you get China? India and the other countries China is doing a lot. Yes there's still building living a bunch of coal fired power plant. Yes they're still building a bunch of coal powered plants. Yes they are but they're still burning coal role but they are now moving away from the cities the Communist. Oh so they're still building coal powered plants and there's still burning coal but they're moving them away from the cities that's going to get them to net zero emissions. which is the goal for for all the the the global warming crowd is? Everyone's GonNa get two zero so Bloomberg says. They're not getting to knit zero that but they are moving out of the city because the people complained about the air quality. You know the the reality. Is that the Chinese Communist Party. Did something about the air quality because the Chinese Communist Party leaders. I didn't like the air quality. They live in Beijing too and when it became a problem for them in their area of Beijing that's when they took action. And what do they do. They made the coal power plant Operators the bad guys and blame them and drag them through. The streets is an ruined them and then decided they would move all the plants far out of the city to where to poorer areas that have the exact same problems but are less prone to to be mobilized. I mean that that's the problem here in that Bloomberg seems clueless or unwilling to Acknowledge College. Is that what happened. Is China moved all the stuff out into smaller cities and villages where the exact same problems are happening with the exact same bad pollution standards. But now there's not a mob of people in the city and the leaders don't have to deal with it either. But Bloomberg's logic Margaret hoovers right to call him on this Zinni so dismissive of it that in a communist regime what happens you got to have some level of revolution. He says they're looking at Russia and the Communist Party there and it doesn't exist. What happened in Russia? There was a revolt Volta. The people the people rebelled in the military decided ultimately decide with the people and not the communist leaders. But it took Gorbachev not clamping down on the people. If you we'll recall from your history and listen. I was in grade school at the time when this was happening. But even I'm a student of history and know that the big issue here was that Gorbachev Orbits Chef did not send the Soviet troops into the streets against the people he decided to allow people to protest and ultimately in East East Germany and the like as protesters were mobilizing. Gorbachev did not send troops to gun down the protesters. They hadn't square with the Chinese. He decided to allow people people to win and he got out of the way in the soldiers ultimately decided they would go with the people because it would be the people who put the next leader's charge. They lied with Boris Yeltsin Bloomberg completely rewriting history to suggest. Otherwise that had Gorbachev gone in the Soviet Union as the Communist Party head and slaughtered the people and beat them back into submission. There's nothing to be done I. It's the same thing in Hong Kong in Hong Kong right now you've got much of the American establishment refuses. Just call out the Chinese. The president signed the bill supporting Hong Kong freedom in large part because he was scared that Congress would override his veto which hasn't happened yet With with this president he didn't WanNa Congressional override even though he's negotiating with the Chinese right now the trade deal. He suggested that he was with the Chinese people with the Hong Kong people but but also with President Xi of China Xi of China. I'm sorry it this is it. It's my numbing to have Mike Bloomberg defending the Chinese Communist where the rest of the Democrats here Elizabeth. Warren should be out tearing him up on this Elizabeth. Warren should be out on the campaign trail savaging Bloomberg over something like this remember Bloomberg was out. There award was out there beating him them up for his money earlier. Here's Warren from last week on the campaign trail I am here on date. Who of Michael Bloomberg's thirty thirty seven million dollar ad by you know Michael Bloomberg is making a bet about democracy and twenty twenty? He doesn't need people. He only needs bags and bags of money. We're is she on the campaign trail trill attacking him for this. She should be out there attacking for this. All the Democrats should be out there the they they claim the moral high ground. They say that they've got to take on Donald Trump. They they say say that. They've got to to have moral credibility they've got to denounce stuff like this. Where are they when it comes to China or the Democrats unwilling linked to take all Mike Bloomberg because they're unwilling to hold China to account? Is it really. The Republicans were willing to stand up and hold China to account and the Democrats defending China and Bloomberg Bloomberg. Really I gotTa admit I had completely forgotten that Joe SESTAK was running for Congress and Steve Bullock was running for for our president president in bullock. The Governor of Montana running for president but not just them what has happened to divall. Patrick doc default Patrick is out there. Supposedly he was going to be the guy to save the Democrats from the cells. Now here's a thing Divall Patrick's metrics entrance into the race came after multiple media reports that Democratic voters were actually unhappy. They were unhappy Eh with the lot of Democrats who were running. They were unhappy with the direction. The party was going. They were unhappy with their chances of of beating president trump and silly the media starts buzzing about what we may have a uniter in the race. We may have the next Barack Obama in the race and who comes into the race. Divall Patrick Divall Patrick. And the issue here is why did he come into the race ended. The media coordinate his announcement in his rival did the media. Have something something to do with it. Because it doesn't seem to be coincidence at this point that there were two or three days of media coverage about the party being deeply unhappy with with the people running They were deeply unhappy with the field. They were deeply unhappy with the amount of people running. They were deeply unhappy with the quality. The of the candidates they were deeply unhappy with The way forward they were deeply unhappy with every part of it and then suddenly devolved evolved Patrick announces. And you've got this whisper on morning. Joe It was on CNN late night MSNBC. There's going to be a candidate. There's going to be somebody to come in and unite the Party party. Someone's going to come in rally. The field rally the crowd were going to be able to get a new candidate in the race. We're going to make this happen. Joe Biden's flannery. We've got a new guy coming. We know we're not talking about Bloomberg at someone else. We can't tell you who and then develop Patrick comes out and people are like Really you. Why you why you? And they've got a problem. They got a problem on the impeachment. They got a problem with the crowd. The voters actually I think have decided that they they like the field that they liked the number of candidates running. They you have someone to choose but it's the elite in the party who aren't happy and the elite in the party who worry about beating Donald trump much more so than the base and the leader also worried about the progressive radicals calls within the party because the elite within the Democratic Party are not as progressive or as committed to progressivism as the rest of them. So you you got a problem in that regard as well but this reminds me very much of the Kamala Kamala Harris Story in the New York Times over the weekend. There was a big story in the The New York Times about Kamala Harris campaign. Imploding She's floundering around Searching for a reason to be in the race her fundraising is hurt and one of the comments in this story is that Amini within her campaign seem to be more focused on the loud voices on twitter than they are to. The voters is it. As a result of being focused on the loud voices on twitter. Their campaign reason is shifting their messages shifting and their policies are shifting and it goes back and forth opinion on the loud voices on twitter order. It does make you wonder if this is a problem. An overarching problem for the Democratic Party. And maybe it's a problem for the Republicans as well except the president is so so dominant on social media. It becomes less of a problem but with the Democratic Party. They don't have a leader right now. Barack Obama is refusing to intervene other than to say. We don't really need a revolution right now. We don't need to be that radical into the Democrats are grasping at what to stand for four and what positions to take and how best to challenge Donald Trump in the way they decided to do it eastern go on twitter in particular and see what are the leading luminaries of the Democratic Party saying well the leading luminaries of the Democratic Party on twitter some of whom were anonymous fling poet each other all day. And that's essentially what the Democratic Party presidential primary has become. It's just a bunch of 'em poof. Winging it nothing sticken. It's it's bizarre that this is where it's come to an it's it's it's fascinating to me that you've got people in Comma Harris's campaign willing to speak on the record about this stuff but what's also interesting is in their willingness so to speak so openly suggested her campaign is dead even if she doesn't realize it's dead yet and the level of backbiting has already begun. You gotta remember come. Laris was elected. General in California ran for the Senate race and one in kind of exerted her influence on the Senate strutting senator stuff in the Senate she actually got some bipartisan of friendships in the US Senate privately there are a number of Republicans in the Senate who really liked her. They like working with her. I think she's a straight shooter. She kind of got the PR machine around her to advertise her as the female Barack Obama. I she to black and she to a messenger of hope. She too willing to to bridge the gap between the Progressives in the Democratic Party base and in mainstream America that somewhat skeptical of progressive. She could do it just like Barack Obama and then she got on the campaign trail and was in overhead and now we know part of it was too many people at her campaign listening to twitter. Fringe you should never listen to twitter and I was approached over the weekend in church on Sunday By someone in ministry say that they follow me on twitter. I said you should get off twitter. Altogether twitter is bad for your soul. It will consume you I feel compelled myself to be on twitter at this point largely as a job requirement to interact with listeners up but I think if you're in clergy or you're a politician you you should stay off twitter or at least be very one sided so that you're talking but you're not responding. You're not paying attention to the conversation. You're telling people what you think because oftentimes the the loudest voices on twitter who pushed back on your the fringe voices so you get all this pushback on twitter. You're wrong on something you start second. Guess Yourself. You don't WanNa get yourself. You WanNA double down because people on on twitter he just. You don't want to pay attention to them. No offence to those who I pay attention to on twitter. I do paged you. But man if you're a politician a preacher stay away from social media it consumes you.

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Dont Fall For False Narratives # 1039

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Dont Fall For False Narratives # 1039

"Get ready to hear the truth about america on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan bongino on june. Oh i love that show producer joe. How are you today. Hey hold onto my seat getting ready for our four and a wacky wacky land here you know shows like what's that thing on your on your forehead. I don't ask don't even ask folks professional makeup artists that my suit coat even ask. I'll al get you at a time totally but i promise you yeah. He's like poking fun at me. Before the show all right listen i got a lot to get to today and and i wanted to start by saying stop letting the media and the liberal lunatics out there dictate to you what you think. The truth should be when you know that is not what i'm telling you. Hey man up. Am stop letting it happen again. This is not a lecture. It's not schoolhouse rock. I'm not trying to be bill just the capital. This is making a public service announcement. It's just i can already sense the fear accumulating not in my audience not with you certainly not with joe but amongst these republican politicians out there already caving to narratives they know as you've seen it wow joe you listen to be yesterday on the radio for over an hour on the hannity eddie show at geraldo going back and forth geraldo trying to change the narrative to this is about gun possession and racism rather than about culture rotten our society when we know that's not true. Don't let them do it. Please okay. I've got a lot to get to him. Start there and get tons of stories. Stay tuned today's show brought to you by our buddies at no bull no bull and always no bull as in bulls and bears no bull b. u. L. l. best workout attire out out there. It's why we took him on as a sponsor you know i love going to the gym headed out afterwards for another busy workout. I mean the lightest br area it kind of breezy non clingy workout attire. You've ever seen love him. 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It's a series of virtue signalling signaling events by the media signaling their higher moral values in you trying to switch the narrative and what i mean by the narrative is a media apparatus with their liberal buddies. It's it's a symbiosis there. They really they. They leech off each other. These two trying to get you to believe a story a narrative. That's really what narrative is. It's a kind of a linear version of events meant to tell some kind of chronological story about how this is the right way to feel about these these horrible shootings. We had this weekend. This is the right way to feel and if you don't believe in this stuff then this debt makes you on this side and you are the bad guy that's good guys bad guys narrative one acceptable to good people alternative narratives definitely not all bad people who believe in those and the accepted media narrative now which had this hour long debate with geraldo yesterday and having these radio show is that this is about guns and this is about racism now. There's no question no question. The lunatic who shot up el paso was a racist pig indisputable but ladies and gentlemen this is there's also no question that the guy who shot up dayton and killed i think up to ten <hes> ten people now that the motivations there were the different. That's why i've tried to explain to you that the narrative we should be focusing on not that we shouldn't talk about those things that you are definitely components of what happened that one hundred percent what i'm suggesting to you is solutions to fixing the problem are not in that narrative because we can see that people from various political ideologies have engaged in the very same behavior which means this is clearly not just about one thing which the media only you get the difference yet. Yeah yeah only wants you to talk about not not that we shouldn't address this stuff. The el paso guys racist manifesto of course it should be addressed the warren guys allegiance to leftist ideology in elizabeth warren of course it should be addressed me. It's not what the media's saying. We need to be clear in the time of of foggy nece induced upon us spy immediate. It's supposedly about journalism we need to be clear and saying those are not the only things clearly political ideology collagen one political ideology conservatism is not the cause of this because people from across the ideological spectrum are being gauging this there is something else going on. We talk about of course. Is it all about guns clearly. Not i presented to you legions of data over the past few days gun ownership is up gun ownership per person is up in the united states yet gun crime overall and gun homicides are down. We are not the world's leader in mass shootings outings. We are not the world's leader in gun homicide. We're not even close. These are leftists narratives to get you to focus on this one thing for one reason politics they understand that conservatives are backers of the second amendment the right to defend yourself and your family a god given right therefore by attacking guns they feel the democrats liberals and their media buddies advancing this that by attacking firearms and gluing it to conservatives that they may be able to win votes in suburbs ladies and gentlemen. That's what this is not. Keep him overnight. You said it's not about solving problems right. It's not about solving all of this stuff talk about red flag laws back richard. It would not have stopped any of this is not about solutions. This is about political advantage so on the firearm firearm issue it is about glowing into the back of conservatives and saying look at them with the guns they support this stuff. No we don't you just making it up secondly on the making it about race of the race issue and racism all of it clearly a component of the el paso shooter by the way but by making it exclusively about that and eliminating leaning any other conversation don't talk about elizabeth warren and leftist ideology motivating the other guy. What do they do again. They reinforce number one that conservatives lives are dangerous. Look at them their allegiance to their guns. They're also very therefore left this axiom. I am number. One takes effect. Which is what left. This never gets you to vote for them. You may say. I don't know i know you. You know i've told you this so many times one. One of our original shows leftist. Don't get you vote for them because they can't once we we get out of the primary leftist ideas are grossly unpopular and will not win fifty one percent of the vote confess katori taxes government run healthcare air gun confiscation free free free spending government spending exploding government budgets high interest rates endless debt ladies and gentlemen none of this stuff in popular it ranks about the twenty to thirty percent and polling at best some of it maybe when they when they within what medicare fraud when they frame it the right way. You may hit forty. The bottom line is you're nowhere. Close to fifty one percent to win a national election. Leftist can't get get you to vote for their ideas but they can get you to ignore their ideas and hate the other guy so much that you vote for them for protection protection from those awful conservatives. They've married themselves to gun culture. They're all racist. They don't like you and they're islamophobes. They are misogynists and their homophobes. They don't like you either so they put people in these boxes and tell them how much conservatives say them all lies of course to get them to ignore liberals really stand for and get them to vote for them. As some kind of protection against the conservative award it is so divisive and so unbelievably dishonest but ladies and gentlemen. I want you to understand the strategy so we understand how to fight back and how you fight back is by ladies and gentlemen ignoring ordering please. I'm begging you these liberal narratives as a. I don't wanna say ignore nor the narrative. Don't ignore the facts behind the cases. That's that's important. Stop falling prey to this. It's important because i was reading this morning multiple articles in multiple places that you're seeing seeing you know ready joe. You're seeing this tendency amongst republican rhinos who are weak-kneed to a ready fall into this trap sure not because it's the right thing to do. I saw a piece about kin zinger and others. These guys who have really a week conservative allegiances identifies republicans they're out door ready falling in the trap you know if we just had this and background checks and if we just closed the gun show loophole that doesn't exist and we we institute some potentially unconstitutional unconstitutional red flag laws. We're going to solve all these problems that folks none of them. Actually believe this what they've done. Is they've fallen trap into. I can only speak about the media narrative they want guns racism getting rid of guns and conservatives racist anything i suggest outside of that cultural rot doing something as we spoke about yesterday being apparent to your kid separating. I saw him out walson fox and friends. Were you very good came out some of the same things we'd be a father to your children show up and he said something that's right. You know what i should've said yesterday in some he said you know what this is going to start with the government but at every household i think i did say that if i did it does not trying to take credit i. I'm just suggesting a good idea. Change is going to start in your household but that joe do you understand where i'm going. That's not the accepted nubia nia liberal narrative know anybody talking uric norring the real problem. No no that is the real problem and i refuse to be bullied into accepting your version of what you think. The truth is because you know it's not the truth either. I am not going to be bullied into that on this show. I want to get into in a second to some additional stuff. We're hearing now. We have to start. Banning websites writes a chan- all gotta come down. I don't know what a chan is. I i've heard of it. I i shouldn't say i don't know i know it is i don't i don't oh really know the details of it. I'm just being candid with you but i want to get to a story in a second because this is the other accepted liberal narrative that now we have to start d platforming had forming conservatives silencing speech everywhere and if you get out of that you're a racist you want to allow racist speech said nothing of the sort nothing at all not even close. You're just making that up all right. We've got to pay for the show. Today was sponsor so just stick with us. We really appreciate it. Today's show brought to you buddies. That simply safe listens you know on average. It takes police forty five minutes to respond to a home security alarm almost an hour when a home security system is triggered a lot of times people police assume it's it's a false alarm and the call goes to the bottom of the list unfortunately and it can be true simplist but not with simplisafe home security but we're using the bongino house. We use them my mother-in-law's house. 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I don't know what's on h. I. assume on any platform whether it's twitter reddit h._s._e._n. Facebook i know on twitter well because i'm on there a lot that you're always going to see lunatics who say just nonsensical crazy stuff but there's a ford story forgive me from saying the stories by isabel to go to costa cows and drops h domain registration after el paso shooting shooting folks. We've seen this over and over and over again this inclination by people in these in these in this the blog is fear the twitter british sphere the social media sphere threatening these private companies to dump h._m._o. Others ladies and gentlemen. Why is this a bad idea. There's a couple bulla reasons. I am not suggesting to you to be crystal. Clear what we're talking about that there are in things posted on these platforms that that are grossly inappropriate many times racist misogynistic and in some cases very dangerous agreed people talking about violent crimes shootings putting d- shooters on a golden calf sat of them <hes> it's disturbing but can i suggest to you from a former law enforcement perspective. Don't you want that out. There now joe oh. You may be puzzled right now. I don't think you are actually i'm not i know. Paula isn't nine use. Why would we want people posting about violence shootings on h._s._e._n. Ladies and gentlemen we call that a clue you wanna drive. These people underground this. This is what i don't get we can at this this. This show is entirely consistent. We don't want violent shooters posting violent stuff but if they are going to post violent violence stuff. We'd like to be able to find it before it happens. Exactly you understand you're driving. These people who clearly have a pathological phonological sociopathic disorder and no respect for human life. You're driving them underground making them harder not easier to find listen to to me. I'm trying to think of an analogy here that would make sense if i'm trying to track a counterfeiter and there's a counterfeiting forum whatever counterfeit chan and a a bunch of people can we did counterfeit. Secret service are posting about the new pino. Those printer notes generated on a printer home computer. We call them p. Not knows how they did it and where they found it. I don't want well. We shouldn't have that up there. They're posting about illegality. Folks obviously ashley morally. These people are completely vacuous. They have their criminals. Don't you want the clues yeah. Listen i get it that this is a super super-sensitive topic. We're providing a forum for these people to out themselves. Yeah folks with the advent of hey. I technology the ability to do big data analysis. We are not looking for the right answer sir. We're looking for the less wrong answer. Maybe this is my experiences law enforcement guy that it's coming out here but would you rather the ability to have this out in a public forum. We can see where we may be able to prophylactically get ahead of this stuff or do you wanna drive. These people undergrad where we have to go somehow find them to some other means not openly accessible man. You're not gonna make sense and you know we always like when when people like us in love us but it doesn't it make perfect sense to want to know when somebody hates you or wants to do harm is and that makes so i mean i haven't even gotten a point to that. This is of course gonna lead to a very not libor already there. I don't wanna say we're already in this dangerous. D platforming thing where you're seeing of course people who are not free speech absolutists like i am outside of criminality obviously who are going to use this as an excuse. What's gonna be next. We're gonna take twitter down. I mean have you seen some of the stuff we go to dana. Lashes twitter feed look into responses to any one of her tweet tweet. If you want to see grotesque calls to violence. I'm not kidding. She used to work for the n._r._a. So liberal say things that are that are just unfathomable rule title but my problem here folks. There's twofold. If you are going to have a sociopathic maniac threatening to do something he's very likely to do go and engage in a targeted violence active shooting event i would rather the warning sign be public and discoverable than hidden and not and secondly. This is an honest conversation. Where does it end so we have lunatics we can report track iraq and hopefully stop on an open platform or we can just shut down the platform keeping in mind that i don't know what i'm not on chance so i can't speak to the percentage of lunatics versus same people. I don't know i'm not there but i can tell you on twitter the percentage of lunatics my informal kind of status this there's about fifteen percent lunatics to eighty five percents saint people on twitter. You gotta shut the whole platform down to my unscientific late folks. It's i'm telling you right now. It's a bad idea. It is a very very bad idea and again the only acceptable the narrative else acceptable narrative here is what do you want to leave that stuff up you want racist and killers to be able to post no i. I want us to be able to find them. Is that hard for you to understand and this is always my beef with media types who tried to do law enforcement when they can't even do journalism journalism media types try to economics when they can't even get reporting down as we saw at the new york times yesterday. Why are you leave the law enforcement stuff and the economic stuff that people actually understand it while you focus on writing trying to get your journalism career down. You still haven't figured that out out. I'm telling you ladies and gentlemen. This is a really really really bad idea all right moving on and folks we are the conversation is degenerating rapidly and i fear we're we're at a real inflection point here. I don't don't you know my my second book defied. I wrote a chapter on this about red states and blue states and i fear we're headed down a really dangerous path. I tweeted out yesterday and i meant it. We share nothing in common with liberals anymore. Nothing now i mean i can't tell you one and thing so the radical left by them democrats. I just wanna be clear on that but when it comes to the radical left we have nothing in common with them anymore. More nothing nothing we believe in they believe in liberty freedom economic liberty anything school choice the right to self-defence <music> late-term abortion. We share nothing in common with them anymore. The problem we have and as i've stated many times on cable news and on my show show is whereas conservatives have a distinguished clear emergency brake on their behavior directed at their political opponents liberals rose. Don't share that same those same conditions what i mean is. If you're a legitimate conservative libertarian you believe in a set of big our rights. I believe those rights are granted by god as i said yesterday. Some people don't believe in god but they believe in big r rights anyway that human beings are born born alienable rights how you get that from god. I always get confused about but listen to each his own like i said i i. I know where my i believe my rights come from but if you believe you are granted a series of big our god given rights as a condition one of being human. That condition has no asterisk next to it next to it. It doesn't say but if you're a conservative in other words there is a hard hard emergency brake on our behavior that prohibits prohibits legitimate conservatives from engaging in preemptive violence install hurt someone and take away the big our god given rights. If someone else does that make sense it must because the rest of this argument won't make any sense if we don't get that it does make sense. The difference french between us and liberals is the emergency brake. We believe liberals are people born with big. Our god given rights with really bad ideas. Some some of them are bad people but some were just confused ladies and gentleman. The radical left is not believe that about us. The radical left believes about conservatives services that we are really bad people with ideas there's they i cannot say that enough is the primary distinguishing point that that leads to the emergency brake. If you believe liberals have the potential to be good people and have god given rights but really stupid ideas you obviously are not going to physically attacked them a costume rip their hats off punched him in the face spit on him or if you do that you're not welcome in our movement not talking about the violence and self defense. I'm talking about proactive violence. We obviously don't ever subscribe to that because you're then taking away the rights of others liberals. Don't believe leave that about us. This is why i tweeted yesterday. We're in this really dangerous point. We have nothing in common with these people anymore. Now some examples congressman from texas joaquin castro yesterday in one of the most disgusting stink disturbing political stunts have ever seen story will be at the daily caller by pita san joaquin castro post the names and employers of of trump donors on his twitter account followed by tens of thousands of people now folks. You may say eighty yourself now my audience but if there's a liberal listening some of you tiredness up as you a liberal for public information man it is it is f. e. C. records are public and they are public for a reason the reason f. e. c. federal election commission donor records are public public for donations over. I believe it's two hundred dollars is not to publicly harass and intimidate the donors and the employers have said donors owners. It's public to avoid the appearance of bribery or pay to play schemes folks it was f._c._c. records took posted in the newspaper every morning so people can go out and try to get people fired show up at their house beat the crap out of them follow their kids around. That's that's not why they do that. They're public to avoid the appearance of money. People quietly in the back corners without any public exposure bribing public officials. You didn't know that and just because is joaquin castro could do it legally doesn't mean he should. There are a lot of legal things you can do. You know you can walk up to people in the street and annoy them in waving their faces. Why don't we do it. It's legal because it's stupid. Why would you do that. Why do you want to annoy people. Why don't we do that because we believe leave. People have big our god given rights that puts the emergency brake on our behavior and emergency brake joaquin castro castro does not have this is a despicable disgusting horribly thought out amateurish surest child is dangerous stunt and i wanna say this. I don't do the blame game. You know that i do not blame left this politicians nations for maniacs that engage in violence and subscribe to left this ideology and i don't believe anybody should do that on trump. Obviously we talked about this over. The last few days folks folks. This is different. Joaquin castro specifically selected out. I think it was twenty. Seven people want and research their names on a database publicize their names and employers on his twitter account specifically so that people would do what celebrate them no harass slim if something happens to any one of these people if something happens to them at it can be linked to this. That blame is entirely legitimate. That is the one hundred percent because you know why let me explain anyway. There's a ninety nine point nine percent chance the people on joaquin's and i'm not going to show the tweet. I'm not showing the names we're not contributing to joaquin castro castro deviancy. There's a ninety nine point nine percent chance that those people were living calm peaceful lives before they were exposed <unk> by this guy and if they're targeted by people who can trace back to this event that is a direct connection between joaquin castro's actions and and dangerous environment and god forbid. Something happens to one of these people absolutely unforgivable and shameful. 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I listened to the extended version. I'm not gonna play the whole interview here. You know what it really is amazing to joe. How the guest on the panel seemed disturbed by the fact that all that nicole wallace yeah really this conspiracy theorists m._s._n. One of the worst purveyors of conspiracy i see theories you've ever seen something what rachel maddow that she. She actually said that president trump's exterminating latinos. There's a latino extermination. I would think that would be a critically would be big news. Be very troubling. We should be worried. My wife would be terrified. External external president trump said he was looking at exterminating latinos. You understand folks can i can. I tell you something here. I'm gonna give you a little behind the scenes jeez. I'm probably not supposed to say this. I don't get in trouble. Whatever but i'm telling you right now now if i said that on fox that barack obama wanted to exterminate whatever white people black people latinos yeah. I'm telling you right now. I'd probably be fired. I'm almost positive i would be fired to nicole. Wallace should be off tv now again to give you the news and that the fake news like conspiracy theorists discredited liar nicole walls. She tried to walk it back with a tweet this morning and she gave a non apology apology saying oh i missed the apology. You should have been categorical. Yeah i lied. The president has never talked about exterminating latinos. I'm taking a week off on my show to rethink this whole thing. That's not it folks. There's more outside of conspiracy theorists tin tin foil cap wearing lunatic nicole wallace her exterminating latinos plan that she fabricated out of thin air. We had paul oh krugman another conspiracy theorists who should return as nobel prize in economics mar say the president and others are enablers of of terrorism quote used the word enablers enablers of racism. We had morning joe and that show go off. The rails folks you now get my point. How i opened up the show that we share nothing in common with these people paul krugman using the term enabler when talking about all this grotesques grotesque stuff is so so unbelievably disturbing from a man who pretends to be educated. We share nothing in common with these people anymore and if you missed my debate on the radio yesterday with geraldo. Here's how it started. I got i got a call from the hannity crew. They asked me me to come on and debate. Geraldo about the shootings on the radio that is i said sure sure i'm and so we went on. It was supposed to be one segment. Joe is listening which i i'm surprised i thought i didn't know he was edited. Really i didn't know he listened to the radio at that time and he texted me in the middle of it. Go get him dan. Thanks joe geraldo. Try to yesterday this weekend the narrative to making it about you know trump being a racist when everybody knows i believe including geraldo that he's not they're just making it up. Yeah dan lukman trying to make this about trump. Being the enabler nicole wallace trump's about exterminating latinos her language. You know what's insane. Oh paulo you know this. We will be to monetize on youtube. They democratized and making in our show is hard to find this week by the way our audience on youtube is down. It's it's not believe me. It's not the content stunts down. Completely day will d monetize is our video today for talking about dreaded air quotes the exterminating latinos line even though it's the line of a leftist conspiracy theorist on m._s._n._b._c. It's not our lied obviously yep. We will be monitoring yeah. You can't mention the term. Exterminate latinos really did you d- monetize m._s._n._b._c.'s youtube. You've probably not probably not folks. This is what we're dealing with here. We share nothing in common with these people anymore. Do you get why the new rules are in effect now. The new rules are this. This is not the time to be worried read about every single trump piccadilly. Oh yes the guy's not perfect okay. I think that goes without saying it's it's tautological. Nobody is if there are things we could change and make him the perfect candidate. Everybody would have their input. The bottom line is we are in a trench warfare type mentality right now with people who share nothing in common with us nothing they think we want to exterminate latinos tino's were enablers of of white supremacy and racism and terror. They believe this some of them. None it's true it's fabricated made up not says we share nothing in common with them and when i explained in the new rule show why because i get this question a lot then dan you're a christian. Why do you support president trump some of the stuff to talk about and do okay some of the stuff i used to do and talk about we're all listen. We are imperfect imperfect beings. We're all sinners with you and in a more perfect world yes ladies and gentlemen. I would feel like you know what maybe we don't need to deal with that right now. We can pick a more. A guy is a little more delicate on twitter. That's not this time. I describe it as a trench warfare affair mentality when you're sitting there on a park bench in a park in a peaceful time at a peaceful age everybody's making money. We're not in the midst of a recession. Everything's that's fine. You know what you have the time to pick your friends. I don't wanna sit there on the park bench in the park and talk to this guy you know he likes the mets rather than the yankees. Bothers bothers me you get it. You can pick your friends and pick your allies a little better folks when you're sitting there in a trench against a political opponent opponent that thinks you are a neighbor of terrorism and want to exterminate latinos. You are in an ideological battle for your very existence kids. They're calling you a terrorist a racist. You want to exterminate people using language. We've seen in the most just horrible of times. You don't have the opportunity to go. Well you know president. Trump gave an interview on the stern show a few years ago and i didn't really like tone of it. You want a brawler and that's what i said geraldo yesterday during the hannity appearance you wanna take issue with the tone of his tweets tweets rather than the fact that we have left this calling us nazi's genocidal maniac exterminators of latinos. You went out and you want me to start worrying about the tone of trump's tweets. Are you serious seriously hard pass on that. I have to triage my needs right now and my once and my needs right now are to have a political brawler who is not going to accept to go back to the beginning talk show. The acceptable dreaded air quotes again. Media narrative trump's not gonna do it. We can only talk about we're all racist and were were gun warmongers and anything outside of that. We're all he's not going to do it now. I wish he would get away from this red flag gloss and these other these are not solutions. Don't fall prey to it and i will say the kind of he has. Some people have gotten in his ear about about that. It's a mistake. I got a twitter message from a friend of mine from my campaign. Two days ago is involved in the firearms arms business very active in the community saying dan. This is a catastrophic mistake by trump. I don't disagree this is from a die hard mega supporter to it's a big mistake but generally speaking he does not accept these default narratives. He did it again today. We just got done. He did a little pressure on the lawn before going out to dayton and el paso off quick presser. They asked this question does your he. He's good for him. He tosses it right back at them now. I don't blame elizabeth warren. I if that's exactly how we should handle it. I just wish get away from this other stuff. It's really bad idea. I don't go anywhere sponsors today. Folks and a lot of people interested in our show due to you. You're great you support our sponsors. You support the show. I really deeply appreciate all that. It pays for the show keeps us on the air. You know we we don't sell a lot of ads on the show oh you get about what are you saying talk radio every hour. It's probably like forty minutes of content. Do you get far more than once in a while. We he added. We have a lot of demand for our show. Because you my audience you're so great supporting a sponsor so deeply appreciated but what i want to get to a final read and they want to get to this tweet by nate silver yesterday and who finally expose the media for who they were and stop this. This tweet is so telling him so glad he sent it out finally getting to the point that the media's media's not doing journalism. They're simply catering to left the space how he tweeted this. He's a renowned pollster by the way and didn't get it is beyond belief. We got it and casey deletes atlanticists. This could be going all right. Let's read it. They g code g. code the finest holsters out there bar none. The g. code phenom their waistband inside the waistband. Holster is a total total game changer best in the business. We love it in. This household. Chicote holsters the best holsters out there for your money. You're not gonna find a finer went out there like many of view. 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Who's a democrat by the way this is a responsibility so marked a pen tweeted about the new york time changing its headline because they thought trump's speech the headline about the speech was too positive towards trump. It wasn't mark penn says the day twitter mob can change a headline line in the new york times. This papers truly finished and replaced by a new kind of nineteen eighty-four ministry of truth. The news is now. What people say it is so neil silver responds back l. o. l. imagine a world where subscriber-based businesses are responsive to their subscribers. It's not blanking or well with an f. George orwell of course i'd nineteen eighty-four not frank. Where will i gotcha yeah not showy. <hes> not joey boombox oil folks. Yes nate silver's absolutely right nothing he said was untrue the fact that he tweeted it and exposed it is this is the real scandal. The new york times is a subscription based business that is clearly catering catering to a bunch of left wingers who dictate to to them what the news is. It's a simple as that. You should screen shot that tweeden hold it forever because what nate silver said is absolutely right. The new new york times is not any longer in the journalism business. They are in the business of advancing going back to the beginning of the show narratives stories stories that are not sure. They're a sops fables. They're myths fairytales their greek mythology roman mythology. They're made up up. This is really a gun problem. It's really a problem of rampant racism on the conservative side. None of those stories are actually true true. They are narratives. They are guests sliding narratives meant to propagandize a population and silver is nothing needs silver citizenry. I am not criticising his tweet. I'm just amazed that a guy with some pretty clear leftist leanings. Maybe not hard left but left. This leans was so open and honest artist about how journalism is dead and he sees the funny thing about it is he thinks he's refuting. Mark pence's tweet about this nine hundred eighty eighty four big brother government surveillance state. You know a ministry of truth type stuff. He's actually reinforcing it. Left-wingers left-winger subscribe to the new york times and they will dictate to the new york times what their headlines are. It's clear as day all i ask moving on. I'm going to spend a lot of time on this. This is stopped telling me about the new york times being journalism. It isn't their narrative based opinion pieces the skies this headlines. It's just not true and nate silver nailed it air catering to a left wing audience now folks you. May i said well what's the difference on the right and opinion pieces dot this and this is an opinion show. That's largely audience by libertarians and conservatives <music>. I'm not catering obviously not because sometimes i say things you don't like. I'm just telling you what i think of what i believe to be the facts and data backing up the truth but when you read the places like the wall street journal which leans center right don't write articles critical of both sides all the time. It's so ridiculous ridiculous that these these left wing are still pretending to be journal. They're not journalists ladies and gentlemen all right moving on folks. We've got a big break having having covered this in a while but there's a lot going on behind the scenes with the entire spy gate collusion drama. Here's an enormous break that came out that really again incredibly just continues to fly under the radar and it's so unbelievably puzzling and i think it's due to what i guess. I'll call here like like the drip drip phenomenon. I've warned you about this repeatedly with spy gate that the drip drip slow drip chronologically slow over over time of information takes the punch and the shock value out of what actually happened to the trump team. Can you put up this headline by the guardian and i saw this yesterday and again this was nowhere nowhere in the media where it was in the guardian obviously but nowhere in the mainstream sri media it should have been a headline story the guardian it was july thirtieth twenty nineteen. Just recently came out by stephanie can't say i'm sorry nick hopkins and let them free. I don't wanna surname tamera secret texts cast light on u._k.'s early role and trump russia inquiry senior five f._b._i. Officials shared concerns about our quote strange situation. Twenty sixteen folks understand how dramatic of a punch this headline should've been to collective guts but because of the drip drip strategic approach deviously strategic approach by f._b._i. And d._o._j. Folks at the highest levels and government swamp rats working with them to put out the information little drips and drabs over time. We've entirely immunized theirself to the pain in in the punch of what that actually said yeah. What did i tell you about two years ago. It is now clear as day faren. Supposedly -posedly friendly intelligence partners in the united kingdom and elsewhere spied on the trump team. We now have techs further adding fuel to that fire that the united kingdom faren collusion by the way had an entirely completely inappropriate role in our presidential election and the story went nowhere yesterday. What was the breaking news yesterday or thirty when the story came out. I just haven't had time with everything going on on. This is such a stack newsweek. They've now exposed. Tax between andy mccabe the deputy director of the f._b._i. Any senior my five british intelligence official apparently again bypassing the normal channels of work. The five is intelligence channels where intelligence committed to lower levels filter. Its way up why to make sure it's true before makes its way into the or as a high probability of truth into the upper echelons of our law enforcement intelligence apparatus. We now have more evidence that senior managers on both sides of the pond the united kingdom and kingdom in here in our intel law enforcement community. We're establishing direct lines of communication about their quote strange situation what the heck was the united kingdom doing a wing. There is no longer a dispute they were inappropriately involved in intelligence gathering regarding our presidential election none but the stories he's nowhere because they've drifted dreaded up. You know it's like you know when you get a tattoo right you ever have they hurt but they don't hurt right away like the first couple couple stings when you know the needle then ladies gentlemen after an hour so believe me. It hurts like eighties because he get at the you know. It's like a pen rub. It on your skin doesn't bother you then after an hour. Your skin is raw match needle in hurts. That's what they did. They avoided the sting of an initial punch by over time. Just gently scratching scratching scratching scratching scratching scratching to take away the punch in this thing. Let me go to some of the takeaways from this piece takeaway number one again just devastating information while russia had previously been viewed as a country that would seek to interfere in western elections. The brexit vote was viewed by some within the f._b._i. Is a sign that russian activities had possibly been successful asphalt person said here we go retroactive storytelling goes on their exchanges offer new insight to the start of the f._b._i.'s rush investigation and now british intelligence appears to have played a key role in the early stages joe. What are they doing here. Well ladies and gentlemen what's about got to come out the inspector general's report supposedly after labor day which is going to expose the entire effort internationally and domestically to spy on donald trump and his campaign. So what is the guardian doing well of course the guardian is getting out in front of the story by going and he's got a story we can tell so. This doesn't sound as bad as it really is. Here's the story the the brexit vote over in the united kingdom to leave the e._u. Yeah we thought the russians were involved in that and yet trump trump too so spied on trump. Oh okay that makes perfect sense. You believe this do not if you believe this. I've got a bridge over there palm city. I'll sell to you super cheap right now. Folks believe it as we wrote their our first book the nissan and i spy gate and matt <hes> this had more to do with the brits not liking president trump for other release. These are other other reasons related to intelligence sharing agreements. It's all in spy gate. You'd be very i open why the u._k. Was really involved. This brexit exist story is a farce. It's a farce this i report. That's gonna come out is going to be devastating. Trump was spied on with international cooperation and what are the lead people which peter stroke who oh by the way conveniently filed a lawsuit against the d._o._j. And f._b._i. Alleging edging some kind of illicitly legal termination of his job. You think strokes trying to get out ahead of something to they're all oh trying to. Let's go back to the beginning of this show. Tell you a story. There people think in chronological narratives. It's hard hard to think in discrete unconnected pieces of information. That's why we have then diagrams connect. The dots people like to think in stories stories. It enables you to categorize information appropriately in your brain. They like timelines then diagrams rams spreadsheets things that can tell a story. The problem is the story the guardian the new york times and others are telling you is not true through they were not spying on trump because of the brexit campaign they may have used that as a false predicates to do so. They were spying vying on trump because they hated donald trump. They perceive them. As a danger to their global order they seem to like their power structure sure and they wanted to do anything they could to rid him of the chance of winning the presidency. It is no more complicated than that. All of these retroactive stories is your being told now on these leaks are being told to get out ahead of the report and folks to be candid with you the story so devastating even with the story there china tation still be devastating saw. Let me get this straight. The u._k. Is now acknowledging a spying relationship on a presidential campaign and they're saying he did so because the vote some power players lost in brexit. Let's go take away number two from the peace because it gets better the guardian reported in two thousand seventeen that britain spy and she's played a crucial role in learning their counterparts in washington contacts between members members of the trump campaign's. Theme and russian intelligence operatives key c. h. Q. became aware and late twenty fifth in late. Twenty fifteen how long august these people but spying on us of suspicious interactions between figures connected to trump and known or suspected russian agents notice the caveat gotcha suspected russian agency meaning a guy who drank russian russian vodka once in a bar and a source close the u._k. Intelligence said here's the key sentence. This intelligence was passed to the u._s. As part of a routine exchange of information they said the other words nothing to worry about folks. Don't don't you worry a u._k. Intelligence official clearly with knowledge of the spying operation on the trump team internationally says it's all routine gene jones worry. How is that not the story. You know i'll pose this question to the trump team now. We're not spying on comma harris or joe biden using the united kingdom right of course they're not. I'd be stunned if that were the case but how always this not. The story united kingdom acknowledges as far back as twenty fifteen. They're spying on the trump team in conjunction with u._s. Part is but don't worry we do it. All the time is the answer no worries joe. They do it all the time. It's just a routine okay. Forget it. Nobody deals court's in session. Rawson guy sent us this. I forget i don't remember you. Send us an email at it. I am sorry we got so much stuff in the p._o. Box it's gotten crazy. Who was it it is. It's on it. Where is it where i don't see. It sees chris snell. Where did you write it. Honors apollo talk in any other. Some people think paulin hasn't really and talk to me she really does. I don't see well. Thank you anyway for the gavel. It's really cool so email me. I'll give you a shadow. That's the that is the story and yet because of the deconditioning we've had to this these these major breaks and information a huge story like distrust and nobody even bothers you k- intelligence people acknowledge. Don't worry it's all routine. We've been spying on him since twenty-fifth. Don't you worry mad drip drip <hes> he's read the story. It's in the show notes. Hey i wanna leave at a time but you know last night. I was watching one of my favorite movies with paulo before i didn't get to the whole a._m.'s <music> tired but i was watching <hes> cinderella man that jim braddock boxer story and get into the whole movie plot so it's a great story good movie but you know it just reminded me beginning of movies about their struggle in the great depression that what we talked about yesterday about you know do something it'd be apparent to your kid nolan and you know those were some hard folks in that time and when i said yesterday we should be teaching our kids to respect our elders people who've been through the struggle uncle ben through the crisis. They're not perfect. Nobody is we get that but that just reminded me of that. Yesterday you know god bless my grandparents. My grandmother still alive who lived through that. You're listening to my show. You're not if someone else's knows. Someone is listening seriously just extended at gratitude attitude for you for getting through that get through the struggle and hopefully if you can if you would mind pass those lessons on you know. Maybe these younger kids some of. Maybe they're not listening when you're talking but what they'll hear it later quick story my father when we were kids took up to this was like a like a farm in place and you'd stay there and they had games and stuff. We'd stay there for the weekend. I think it was called ingle side and we sat there one day me and my cousin frank and there was this older gentleman charlie he was in in his eighties at the time and there was a t._v. Like a communal t._v. And we watch tv with the guy and he was telling us stories about baseball and then i'll be honest with you probably weren't listening most of at the time but you know what years later charlie had a lot of pearls of wisdom is still remembered and even to this day at forty four. I'm still talking about charlie so so you folks out there who lived through the struggle. The great depression been there. There are so many lessons you can pass on pass them on these kids. They may not hear you loud and clear today but they'll remember it tomorrow. It's really a great movie. You should check that remind you of that. Those were that was a hard generation of hard men and women who got to a real struggle. You know our biggest problem now is we're going to get our next <hes> at on twitter hard folks god bless you. I folks i'll see you just heard the dan bongino show you can also get dan's podcasts on itunes soundcloud and followed in on twitter twenty four seven at dbongino.

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