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Wyoming Gov. to lift mask mandate on March 16

Rush Limbaugh

00:26 sec | Last month

Wyoming Gov. to lift mask mandate on March 16

"State to do away with its mask mandate. Governor Mark Gordon says the order will end on March 16th, which is the Same days, lifting all restrictions on businesses like bars, restaurants and Jim's. Meanwhile, Texas's mask mandate will end tomorrow and businesses will be able to operate at 100% capacity, Health experts warn. Americans must continue to take precautions as states like Texas lift restrictions, including its mask mandate, millions of struggling

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Wyoming Governor to lift mask mandate March 16

Broncos Country Tonight

00:41 sec | Last month

Wyoming Governor to lift mask mandate March 16

"Mandate and open for business. 100% Wyoming Republican governor Mark Gordon says the order will be lifted March 16th in a statement, he said success and distributing vaccines and falling case numbers led to his decision. It will also end capacity restrictions on restaurants and bars, gyms and movie fears. While many priority groups are now eligible for vaccines, Children or not, they will still have to wear masks at school. Governor Gordon says he will ask people to assume personal responsibility as they venture out in public. Wyoming joints Texas, Iowa, Mississippi, Montana and North Dakota. In recently lifting mandates. Gurnal Scott Fox News

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"mark gordon" Discussed on H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

04:43 min | 3 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

"Be done is yes great question great question. I believed in something that we've been promoting called biological resiliency. Now you guys out the field battle you were kevlar vests and you're going into a dangerous situation and find the amount of place that you have on your your kevlar vest or your vest will protect you. From different forms of rounds or shrapnel. What have you well. We can do the exact same thing in for our bodies to protect us and that is by having good nutrition. Low alcohol consumption good sleep good. Hydration and certain supplements like vitamin e alpha. Gamma-tocopherol like like omega three omega three fish oils. Dr michael lewis. I talked about him on Joe rogan and i present joe with a book from mike which talks about Brain trauma in the use of fish oil because how fish oil works is to improve the preventive cat floor in the brain and turns on two proteins that protect the brain so these are Important means that you can use preventatively going into the ring for mma or going out into the field playing rugby or the united states playing football. There are things you can do to give you a little bit of extra protection because the helmets. They really don't do very much. How much just keep the trauma localized to a small area. There's jarring of the head remember. The brain sits in a fluid and floats so there is the law of physics with momentum that wants an object is set in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force the outside forces the side of the skull. So you're signing up against the inside whether or not you have a helmet or not so it's about the external force you still get knocked to the side and that's enough. We've had people who have had one case legal case where the guy was rear ended at maybe five to seven miles an hour and you develop symptomology relative to traumatic brain injury and blood. Testing was corroborated. So these helmets sold forth. They're good to keep the disfigurement of the outer shell or the skin under control and keep all the pieces together. you know. Put everything together but as long as you have rotation latter lies ation and to and fro. You're going to have the potential most of the damage that we see an auto accidents talking about outside. The military is this coup counter coup in injury. You're driving your your vehicle and you stop short. Not even hitting anybody..

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"mark gordon" Discussed on H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

03:48 min | 3 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on H-Hour: A Sniper's Podcast

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"mark gordon" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

77WABC Radio

03:45 min | 3 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on 77WABC Radio

"We believe it. We've seen it happen, but, you know, you know, Tony, where were we on the stage? And a lot of people say, Oh, my my card double so well rehearsed. We don't rehearse that we We just We are who we are, and we don't even know what they're feeling. We just know what we feel it, you know, And then we just doing doing doing what we do, Uh, I think that it started with us is friends. I contributed to our friendship, and we wish we were best friends, then that we're best friends now. There you go. That's the X really, truly. The answer is the friendship in the marriage is what keeps it the way it is with the two of you, and it's simple. It's simple. Stay friends. Hey, you know, I got to share something with you two that you probably don't even realize I've never shared this with you. Westbury Music Fair. You were to open. With for Sonny and share I was managed by a guy named Mark Gordon. To talk. Familiar name who used to manage you guys right? Used to man. Oh, yeah, I miss it so Sure what either was share alone or Sonny and Cher. That's sick. Mark calls me up and says, Listen, the fifth dimension are closing the show. I'm gonna have you guys come in and open for the fifth and we were like what? We're gonna open for the fifth Dimension. Yellow ribbon just came out. We go out and we opened for the fifth dimension and because of that day because we replaced share In your show you closed. You allow us to open without the fifth dimension we wouldn't have had the Tony Orlando and Dawn television show. Mm. That cannot face isn't that I've never shared that with you Talk about a relationship. How crazy is this world that we have had this right that we've had this incredible friendship and we have has been a is a beautiful friendship. You've taught me so much You guys have taught me so much about life. I mean, your dedication to the Lord, your dedication to your craft, and your dedication to each other is a lesson. And I really want to tell you. I thank you for that. So I didn't mean I didn't mean to take up your time. But I had to share the story with people Listen that if it wasn't for the fifth, there have been no Tony, Orlando and dawn. That's amazing. Well, you know, one of the things you said earlier, Tony was that that we are very religious. And, uh, one of the things that that situation that happened to you that Westbury music fair. Was was, uh, we see that That's the way God works, you know? Yes, sir. Came in here. But it's all you guys And and he opened up that door for you. Yeah, It's so interesting. Yeah, you know, so often, you know, you hear about you hear people say the Lord did this in my life or I had no idea but the Lord had a plan for me and that that is true. And we have found that happening so many times. That the Lord has a plan for you. And you? You don't know you're just getting going out there and doing what you do on then he puts the rest of it together. Well, yeah. You know, I always thought I was going left and he turned me right and I was thought I was going right and he turned me left, and I thought I was going for that show. He said no. You're gonna do this show. Absolutely. It's like they say it's a god thing, and it really is a god thing, and you know, it really truly.

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Doctor on coronavirus testing after holiday travel

Here & Now

04:01 min | 4 months ago

Doctor on coronavirus testing after holiday travel

"As we officially entered the holiday season public health officials are warning of a new crisis in the pandemic the centers for disease control tens of thousands of new deaths in the weeks before christmas as people. Return home from ill-advised thanksgiving travel. Let's bring in lena when she's an er doctor and visiting professor at george washington university school of public health. Dr win. it's nice to have you back and thank you for making time for us on a holiday weekend of course. Happy to join you in. What's your prediction for. What's ahead after we saw so many people traveling and gathering over this holiday weekend. We have an impending calamity on our hand because we know that. Kobe is already everywhere and out of control. And now we're facing a surge upon a surge we already had surge in cases of coping nineteen and we also know that every time people come together over the holidays we even saw this over memorial day fourth of july labor dame that there was a surge after that and of course we have unprecedented in numbers of people travelling when we already have a very high baseline level of infection. And all of this. I think is just so incredibly tragic because we are not that far from the finish line here. We do have things that are on the horizon and. I really hope that everyone would just help us to hang in there for bit longer term because our hospitals are already getting overwhelmed. Where already to the point that we could see our healthcare systems collapsing. And we really need to hang in there and get through this very very challenging winter. The cdc is projecting the by december nineteenth the number of americans dead from covid nineteen will total more than three hundred twenty thousand. That's before christmas with this surge upon surge as you say do you think the death toll is about to jump dramatically. Yes i hate to say this. But this is what happens because death is a lagging indicator. Meaning that i. We're going to see an increased level of infections. Then we're going to increase hospitalizations even more than we currently have been. Icu's getting more overwhelmed and then after that death will spike and not only deaths from kobe. Nineteen but when hospitals become so full that physicians and nurses are unable to provide optimal care. Then we also have other patients. Patients come in with heart attacks strokes for cancer care for car accidents who are not able to get ideal care as well and we're going to see mortality increase from these other causes. Well now. i just hope that people will keep in mind. None of this at this point is inevitable. They are things that are in our power. I know ultimately this failure of our federal policy and the administration should have done a much better job but there are things that we as individuals can do and that includes continuing to wear masks continuing to avoid indoor gatherings and really doing our best through this challenging period. Again it's not full forever. But we have to get through this. Winter will in fact there's one projection from the university of washington that says we could save forty thousand lives over the next two months. If ninety five percent of people wore masks and yet we're still seeing cases for example this week governor mark gordon of wyoming tested positive for the coronavirus. After months of resisting a statewide mask mandate. What's not clicking for people here. I mean i think for us in public health. It's really challenging to see this when something that is a basic public. Health measure is being politicized end fact as a partisan symbol a cultural touch point for many people and we need to enlist credible messengers. In many cases prominent republican leaders business leaders pastors religious leaders We know in public health at the messenger is often even more important than the message and so the more people can help us out with. That message is absolutely central.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

04:09 min | 4 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on KTOK

"Fact available now on Apple podcasts, President Trump told the hearing of Pennsylvania State lawmakers today. The election was stolen from him here. This is the United States of America. What happened that? I think everybody knows that. His attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told lawmakers that mail in ballots were fraudulently manipulated and the GOP poll watches were prevented from watching those votes be processed if we allow elections in the future. To be conducted The way this election was conducted. We will have lost our democracy. State elections Officials say they found no evidence of fraud in the votes or in the counting of Pennsylvania State Judge has ordered the states not to certify its election results. Pennsylvania's attorney general says that's a daylight. The results have been certified and the electoral college electors selected. Governor of Wyoming is tested positive for the coronavirus governor Mark Gordon is reportedly showing minor symptoms of covert 19 just one day after his office closed after a staffer tested positive. Casper Star Tribune reports. Following that diagnosis, it was announced the governor's office would get a thorough cleaning with Governor Gordon planning toe work remotely, he now must isolate Like much of the nation, Wyoming saw spikes in Corona virus cases starting about mid September that were worse than rises in case numbers scene in the spring and summer. Goodall Scott Fox News. The Trump Administration has effectively killed the proposal for a golden copper mine in Alaska that could have been his deepest the Grand Canyon. The Army Corps of Engineers ruling the mine near the headwaters of a salmon fishery is contrary to the public's interest. Following the lead of the FAA and European regulators. Brazil's aviation authority has lifted its order grounding Boeing 7 37 Max jetliners Satisfied New software and better pilot training have made the plane safe to resume passenger service. I'm Jack Callahan. This'd Fox news Hey, this is Mike Slater in San Diego filling in for the great Bill O'Reilly. It is Wednesday. November 25th 2020 You are listening to the old Riley update and here's what's happening today. In America. Republicans push Donald Trump to run again in 2024 Puller Grover Cleveland eight in 10, adults now seriously stressed out Over the country's future. 40% of Americans plan on celebrating Thanksgiving in big groups. The pandemic changes America's religious habits. New Jersey braces for recreational marijuana and the Dow Jones. It's 30,000 points for the first time ever, also coming up the message of the day. But first Senator Lindsey Graham and others are encouraging Mr Trump to run for the White House in 2024. If his legal challenges fail, the Republican telling members of his party quote we can't let the movement die. On Lee Grover Cleveland serve two nonconsecutive terms. He's officially the country's 22nd and 24th president 83% of US adults reporting severe anxiety over the fate of the nation this November. Another 72% believe America is at its lowest point since the revolution. Majority site Racial Tension Cove in on the 2020 presidential election as a significant source of stress in their daily lives. Survey from Ohio State University showing 40% plan on enjoying Thanksgiving with at least 10 people and a third won't require guests to wear masks inside the house. Good for them. The study comes as covert surges in all 50 states. In fact, in about a million people per week in killing 1000 each day in the United States, the global pandemic impacting our religious practices. 60% of US adults say they prayed for the end of the Corona virus outbreak. That includes 49% of those who rarely worship or who have no affiliation with the church or synagogue. Most prayers in November were held in private seven and 10 are still staying home on Sundays to avoid the virus. Residents in the Garden state preparing for the legal sale of marijuana. Starting a 2021,.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on WTVN

WTVN

02:26 min | 4 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on WTVN

"Matter of fact. Seeing the last of the last bit of average. He has encouraging that was seeing them was going the right direction. We need to continue to see those numbers trend in the right direction. But, he says, if the numbers start going in the wrong direction, anything is possible. Among the latest to test positive for cocaine. 19 is Wyoming's governor, Mark Gordon. President elect Biden is urging Americans to keep their holiday gathering small. How hard news to forgo family traditions. It's so very important. But despite CDC warnings, millions of Americans are still traveling for Thanksgiving President Trump Tweeting that he's granted former national security adviser Michael Flynn off full pardon. Flynn pleaded guilty twice to making false statements. During the Mueller investigation. The CDC is looking into an E. Coli outbreak, which has made almost 40 people sick. You're listening to ABC News. That news radio 6 10 W TV, Any malice and Wiant health leaders are warning Thanksgiving could become a coronavirus super spreader is cases are already exploding around the nation, Ohio included numbers are up across the board. Four counties have also now landed on the Purple Level four on Ohio's Corona Virus Alert system alongside Franklin County. Triple A had expected 50 million people to travel despite the CDC, advising against it, urging everyone to stay home this year. And if you are headed down the road to see your family, the Ohio State Highway Patrol says they'll be Watching. They'll be out in full force through Sunday. Millions of Americans, though, are expecting to lose their unemployment benefits as the Corona virus pandemic rages on. Congress had created two programs last spring to expand and extend those unemployment insurance systems during the pandemic, But they are now set to expire the end of December. And if that happens, the million's already standing in line and food banks will stay there, and it is not anomalous here. Seeing long food lines in Chicago, Los Angeles, Texas, New York. This could go on. And not only that be worse if the federal government does not take action soon because there is a food cliff. Is coming. Meanwhile, the pandemic has also killed off the annual turkey trot races this year. Most have been called off or force you to run on your own in your own neighborhood or just transition to a virtual format, And that's what groups like Austin based Camp a gladiator are offering. They have a free, family friendly workout scheduled for 9 A.m.. Tomorrow you just pull up their Facebook page on your phone or computer and follow along from your home..

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Wyoming Doubles Down On Its Long Support For Carbon Capture

Environment: NPR

03:35 min | 7 months ago

Wyoming Doubles Down On Its Long Support For Carbon Capture

"US coal production is down to its lowest level in half a century, but the country's largest coal-producing state is desperate to keep the industry going with support from the trump administration. Wyoming is investing big to try and clean up Kohl's carbon emissions. Wyoming public radio's Cooper has more the largest utility in Wyoming Rocky Mountain power has found. It makes economic sense to start retiring. It's coal plants early, an invest heavily and renewables across the West. That isn't going over well in a state whose economy is tied to call. At a recent public hearing county commissioner can't Connolly said when a plant is shutdown, it's not just jobs that are lost by lose. Fifty percent of the taxes is just as simple. Connolly says it doesn't have to be like this coal plants in Wyoming could stick around if utilities just considered retrofitting them to capture the carbon they emit we will change how goal America. There's no doubt about it we'll get. The idea a coal plant would be retrofitted with new tack. Its emissions would be removed and then sold, but rocky mountain power says right now that technology is too expensive and not proven utilities rick, link says its decision is an economic one. Is Driven by. Changes in the heart condition even so Wyoming is doubling down on its long support for carbon capture. This year lawmakers mandated that by twenty thirty utilities produce a certain amount of electricity from coal plants using carbon capture technology ratepayers bear the expensive that the trump administration is also trying to boost carbon capture. It's passed a federal tax credit in his funding research projects. Holly crude cut oversees several through the University of Wyoming. She envisions capturing co two emissions for a variety of profitable uses including turning them into new products. Building Materials asshole replacement. The problem is many others think the moment for Carbon Capture to help Cole has come and Gone Arizona State University's Klaus Lochner remembers giving presentations promoting carbon capture to the coal industry twenty years ago without that, he warned that climate change would be the industry's demise. Is it look if the comes around, you are not going to be allowed to build a new new coal plant because every bank in the country will know that they will not get their money back. So you bid or buy twenty trinite have the ability to build power plants that. Completely carbon neutral but that hasn't happened Energy Economists Rob. God. Says part of the reason could be politics the Republican Party which strongly supports coal actually may have hurt the industry by downplaying climate change climate change doesn't exist. There's no justification to develop low-carbon technologies like carbon capture. So in an ironic way, the Republicans, kill carbon capture as much as anybody else only one coal plant in the US created a successful business model for carbon capture. It's called Petra Nova in Texas, but that fell apart after the pandemic led to an oil price. Crash analysts, Dennis Wanstead with Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis says he can no longer imagine utility saying, Hey, we really WanNa do this. We really want to build a carbon capture facility and we really WANNA put it on our thirty five year old forty-year-old coal plant improve. It's GonNa. Make Money Wyoming Governor. Mark Gordon isn't put off though he points to wind energy, which also needed help early on, but is now a fast growing industry. He says that means you don't give up for NPR news I'm Cooper mckim

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

Here & Now

03:39 min | 10 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

"In Florida a Miami Dade police officer has been relieved of duty after video emerged of him hitting a black woman at the Miami International Airport yesterday. Body Cam footage shows the woman arguing with the officer before she moved just inches away from his face, and it escalates from. You just heard the officer hitting the woman. She then falls to the ground as more police. Rush into the frame, the Miami Dade Police Director Alfredo Ramirez says he was shocked and angered by the video and has asked the Miami Dade State Attorney to investigate the use of force Miami Herald reporter. David Ovalles has been covering this and David, the body cam footage begins after the woman and the police officer appear to have already been in something of a dispute. Do? We know how this started. Yes, so the woman is twenty one year old pairs, Anderson she was at the airport and had missed a flight, so she was according to the police yelling at the ticket agent. They call. The police tried to calm her down according to them, you see her yelling at the police officer taunting him about one point. He kind of steps back. Back a little bit, and then she steps into his face, and then he claims it was a head bud, and then he just you know delivers a slap. That <hes> is very visceral when you watch it, it is for sure and when you see the video, and from what you can tell from your reporting a in reference to the officer saying that she had headbutted him. Is there any indication that that had happened in? What are you hearing about whether? It would have been an appropriate response to hit her like that. I wouldn't say it's a head, but but certainly one could argue that perception, but as for whether it's inappropriate use of force. It's it's Kinda hard to tell I mean in Florida. The stand your ground law allows anybody not just police officers, no duty to retreat so whether it would be a criminal charge that's going to be debatable. Certainly administrative you talk to police, officers and I've had more than a few reach out to me and say that's absolutely how they're taught. They call it a diversionary strike. Now there's the other element in that. She wasn't wearing a mask and so there's this whole Cova vid angle as well so it's messy. It's not. optically, it looks really really bad <hes>, but I think there's going to be a lot more nuance to a case like this. Then a few of the other use of force cases we've seen in south Florida in the last couple of weeks. Right and look tensions between black people and white officers has been at the center of so many of these cases that we've been. been talking about. But how are people reacting to this incident? Given the both the woman and the officer are black well. That's one of the sort of grey areas that POPs up in Miami more than than other places because we are such diverse community, white officers here are in the minority. Most are Hispanic and there's a pretty good amount of black officers here to. In this case, the officer Tony Rodriguez is a black Puerto Rican officer, so there is a sort of added element of that you know I. Think a case like this also underscores what a lot of block officers are feeling in terms of tension and conflict block officers really know too well what it's like to grow up black, but also feel very conflicted because they're devoted to their jobs, and they feel like they're being singled out as quote, unquote sellouts, and so it also underscores. A lot of the dynamics in these really precarious times.

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Police officer strikes woman during dispute at Miami airport

Here & Now

03:39 min | 10 months ago

Police officer strikes woman during dispute at Miami airport

"In Florida a Miami Dade police officer has been relieved of duty after video emerged of him hitting a black woman at the Miami International Airport yesterday. Body Cam footage shows the woman arguing with the officer before she moved just inches away from his face, and it escalates from. You just heard the officer hitting the woman. She then falls to the ground as more police. Rush into the frame, the Miami Dade Police Director Alfredo Ramirez says he was shocked and angered by the video and has asked the Miami Dade State Attorney to investigate the use of force Miami Herald reporter. David Ovalles has been covering this and David, the body cam footage begins after the woman and the police officer appear to have already been in something of a dispute. Do? We know how this started. Yes, so the woman is twenty one year old pairs, Anderson she was at the airport and had missed a flight, so she was according to the police yelling at the ticket agent. They call. The police tried to calm her down according to them, you see her yelling at the police officer taunting him about one point. He kind of steps back. Back a little bit, and then she steps into his face, and then he claims it was a head bud, and then he just you know delivers a slap. That is very visceral when you watch it, it is for sure and when you see the video, and from what you can tell from your reporting a in reference to the officer saying that she had headbutted him. Is there any indication that that had happened in? What are you hearing about whether? It would have been an appropriate response to hit her like that. I wouldn't say it's a head, but but certainly one could argue that perception, but as for whether it's inappropriate use of force. It's it's Kinda hard to tell I mean in Florida. The stand your ground law allows anybody not just police officers, no duty to retreat so whether it would be a criminal charge that's going to be debatable. Certainly administrative you talk to police, officers and I've had more than a few reach out to me and say that's absolutely how they're taught. They call it a diversionary strike. Now there's the other element in that. She wasn't wearing a mask and so there's this whole Cova vid angle as well so it's messy. It's not. optically, it looks really really bad but I think there's going to be a lot more nuance to a case like this. Then a few of the other use of force cases we've seen in south Florida in the last couple of weeks. Right and look tensions between black people and white officers has been at the center of so many of these cases that we've been. been talking about. But how are people reacting to this incident? Given the both the woman and the officer are black well. That's one of the sort of grey areas that POPs up in Miami more than than other places because we are such diverse community, white officers here are in the minority. Most are Hispanic and there's a pretty good amount of black officers here to. In this case, the officer Tony Rodriguez is a black Puerto Rican officer, so there is a sort of added element of that you know I. Think a case like this also underscores what a lot of block officers are feeling in terms of tension and conflict block officers really know too well what it's like to grow up black, but also feel very conflicted because they're devoted to their jobs, and they feel like they're being singled out as quote, unquote sellouts, and so it also underscores. A lot of the dynamics in these really precarious times.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

Here & Now

08:12 min | 10 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

"That only sixteen percent of Hispanic workers and nineteen percent of black workers are in jobs in which they can tell a work or work from home. So that is part of what this issue is. L. E. L.. She MSNBC ANCHOR in economics correspondent. Thanks a lot. My pleasure. The latest New York Times Sienna College. Poll shows former Vice President Joe. Biden head of president trump by fourteen points. Good News. You're a Democrat right well. Maybe Not Hillary Clinton was way ahead at this point in the summer of Twenty Sixteen and here's Steve, Kornacki for years ago on MSNBC. Could we be seeing our first true landslide in a long time, a double digit landslide? That is Clinton's lead in four polls now. That of course did not happen. So what do we make of the polls in Twenty Twenty Kyle conduct is managing editor of Salvador's crystal. Ball out of the University of Virginia Center for Politics and he joins us now kyle welcome. Thanks for having me and let's start with the lay of the land here. What's the state of the twenty twenty campaign at the start of July? look I mean I. Think Joe Biden is leading by a considerable amount. It looks like his polling. Lead nationally is somewhere in the neighborhood of nine or ten points, or so he also seems to be leading. Most surveys of the key swing states not all surveys, but almost all of them, and if you consider kind of the the big six swing states to be. Arizona Florida North Carolina in the Sun Belt and Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin in the industrial north. There have been a lot of surveys that have shown up by leading in all those states and We've also seen confirmation of the polls in some ways in the president's campaign spending in that for instance he recently booked eighteen million dollars of television airtime for the fall in Ohio which is historically very important swing state, but it's one that President one eight points in two thousand sixteen is. Is a state that historically is a little bit more important for Republicans and Democrats so the polls kind of match up with campaign activity to some degree, and when you dig into those numbers in the demographics, what's surprising to you about the relative strength or weakness of either candidate? Because I see Joe Biden looks like he's doing pretty well with older voters. For instance. Yeah, there's been some indication that bind may actually be leading with senior citizens, and you know in recent American elections the. Kind of the younger you are the likely to vote democratic. The older you are likely to Republican, and that's not how it always is. In fact, you could go back to the two thousand presidential election for instance, and they're actually wasn't that much of a van age gap in that election, but in more recent elections seniors have been a more reliably. Republican group according to the National Exit Poll. Donald Trump won seniors by about seven points in two thousand sixteen, and again Biden may or may not be leading with with seniors, but it seems. Seems like he's doing a little bit better at least than Hillary Clinton did. And also one other trend that's notable. Is that non white voters are gonNA vote Democratic as a group pretty overwhelmingly Biden's. He's doing just about as well as maybe. Hillary Clinton did with non white voters, but the difference is white voters in that white voters who have a four year college degree, which is a group that used to be Republican, and now is trending Democratic Biden. His is seems to be doing significantly better than even Hillary. Clinton did with those voters. And also white voters who do not have a four year college degree that's a group that's become heavily Republican of Biden his cut trump's lead with those voters, and so it seems like to the extent by doing better than Clinton. It's more among white voters collectively the non white vote, so all of this may be giving Democrats Nice, little, warm, feeling in their bellies or maybe. Maybe, not, because if you look back to the early summer of two thousand sixteen, there was a Washington Post ABC News poll that showed Hillary Clinton leading trump fifty one to thirty nine percent. That's about a twelve point margin in. It's not far from the numbers that were seeing right now today for Joe Biden. But are we comparing apples to apples here between these two elections? Look if you want to argue as I think the president. Some of the president's supporters have that the polls did. Ended up being wrong to some degree, particularly some of them in the summertime in two thousand sixteen, and therefore they might be wrong in two thousand twenty. That's crazy to argue that, but let me give you a few differences. First of all Biden's aggregate national lead right now is a little bit bigger nationally than Hillary. Clinton's was and one of the things that I think is really important here is that. Biden. Are there fewer undecided voters in these polls? If you if you look at the polls, just matching trump versus Clinton head to head in early July of two thousand sixteen, you might have had about fifteen percent undecided. Whereas now it's more like only ten percent undecided and what ended up happening. was that are a lot of people who said they were going to go third party a lot? Lot of people who said they were undecided and I think some of those folks are more of those folks broke toward trump at the end. If there are fewer undecided voters, there's less of a chance at the polls are going to be wrong, so that's not to say that Biden is one hundred percent lead pipe lock to win the election I. Don't really feel that way but his. Is is pretty good right now and I think even compared to this time for years ago I think position is is better than Hillary Clinton's. You Know Kyle I heard some conjecture on Fox News recently that if a pollster say from the New, York Times called a trump supporter and asked who they would be supporting in the fall that actually maybe people might be purposely misleading the pollsters. Is that a real thing is? That's something that we should be worried about. There are some pollsters who have looked at this, and maybe with some idea that maybe trump would do better and online polls than that one's in which you've got a live caller calling a responded because of this now social acceptability bias in which may be people don't want to verbally say they're supporting trump. There hasn't been much evidence of that of this sort of like shy trump a fact although you do hear it from time to time I think particularly. Particularly from Republicans. Maybe there's something there and again. Maybe we're sitting here in October and the numbers are closer, but I will say this. If Biden is leading by the kinds of amounts that he is right now in the fall, it would take a much more significant polling error, particularly in the swing states for the pulsed ended up being wrong, so I think if trump really wants to win, he does have to get closer. He doesn't necessarily have to be. Be leading nationally though because we have to remember that he was able to win the Electoral College in Twenty. Sixteen even though we lost the national popular vote by two points so again, if trump gets closer, I think we should be more prepared for an upset, but really by his head been a good position for much of the election but particularly lately it seems like the President stompers have kind curdled a little bit over the last month, but. But that's not guaranteed to continue either right. We are a long way from November. Who knows what's going to happen with this pandemic? Who knows what's going to happen with the economy? Not to mention all of the tensions, this country's going through over the issue of race. So those will all play into the Twenty Twenty Campaign Cayo Conduct is managing editor of Sabah's Crystal Ball out of the University of Virginia Center for Politics Kyle Nice to speak with you. Thanks for having me. Well the comparisons to twenty sixteen. Do have some Democrats concerned including Maria Cardona Democratic strategist who writes in the hill. The Biden's big lead should worry Democrats. Maria is here with us now and Maria double digit lead in the national polls sounds pretty good for your party. So why are you saying that Biden supporters should be worried? Well because I. Think we need to revisit what happened in two thousand, sixteen and I know that you just had a great conversation with Kyle, and and not only that though I do as Kyle mentioned as well, there are some significant differences between now, and what happened in two, thousand sixteen and some fundamental changes that has that happened in the electorate that are no..

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

Here & Now

03:21 min | 10 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

"This brighter job picture comes even as the US reported nearly fifty thousand new cases of Covid nineteen yesterday and many states are now putting their reopening plans on hold. Some are closing businesses for a second time for more now. Let's bring in Ellie vel she. MSNBC anchor in economics reporter highly. Finally saw so as we heard there. The presence is pretty enthusiastic about the numbers today, but given that the June jobs report likely doesn't reflect the rise in infections and states such as California now closing bars and restaurants once again and even fireworks displays this weekend. are not supposed to happen. How does he asked? SHOULD WE BE? Well I think we have to look at the the way. The data is gathered right. The monthly jobs survey is compiled between June. Seventh and thirteenth, basically between the you know the beginning of in the middle of the month that's before coronavirus cases began to spike in the big states, including in Florida re spiking in California, Arizona and several other states and we also have. Have the weekly initial unemployment claims and we know that since June twentieth that was the Fifteenth Straight Week of unemployment claims that exceeded one million, so we sort of have to accept that we're in this time where the data's going to be competing and on a lag. Obviously, it's good that some people are coming back I. Think going back to work I. Think it's not. Accurate, for the president to suggest the economy is roaring back and whatever these numbers are, they'll have been a dip. Since the survey was taken one of the industries that had picked up a little bit last month was hospitality and we're hearing from some restaurant owners who say they probably have to close for good as reopenings are being delayed. What do we know so far about how many restaurants are having to close permanently? Well so the jobs number we saw one and a half million jobs added in June, so of all the job gains in this job report thirty percent are from hospitality, but the sector is still way down. There are a number of restaurants a according to the National Restaurant Association Association, there are six hundred sixty thousand restaurants that have closed in in the country. Three percent of them are closed permanently, and many more of them will now be closing. A number of restaurants have said they could maintain themselves for two months or three months. That becomes very difficult because the average restaurant in America doesn't have that sort of they. They work off of cash flow. Most restaurant owners give themselves a fifteen percent chance of surviving according to a poll by the National Bureau of Economic Research. If Corona, virus lasts for six months and we're. We're now almost at that point. I'll ask you one other thing. There was some racial data in the Labor Department's report today. Whites have the lowest unemployment rate at ten percent blacks, the highest at fifteen, Hispanic, and Asian unemployment slightly lower hovering around fourteen. What's driving these disparities? Well in general African Americans earn less other quicker to be laid off their slower to be rehired, and they're less likely to be promoted. That's a normal situation outside of krona virus, but right now black and Hispanic workers are most likely to be in the types of jobs affected by crow virus that can't be done remotely, and that require face to face contact like food service, hospitality, manufacturing, temporary work nursing The statistics indicate that only sixteen percent of Hispanic workers and nineteen percent of black workers are in jobs in which they can tell a work or work from home. So that is part of what this issue is. L. E..

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

Here & Now

07:19 min | 10 months ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Here & Now

"From NPR and WB, you are Peter o'dowd, and I'm Lisa, mullins. It's here and now the US added nearly five million new jobs in June and the unemployment rate dipped to eleven point one percent. Those numbers reflect an economic upturn, but they don't reflect some of the recent reopening rollbacks as Kobe nineteen sweeps across the nation. Walk more on that later. But I? One of the states that's been devastated economically is Wyoming. Falling oil and gas revenue is expected to wipe out up to half of the states roughly three billion dollar budget for the next two years, and though it's corona, virus numbers are still relatively low. Wyoming's governor has also extended its state of emergency as cases, Surge Governor Mark Gordon a Republican joins me now, governor welcome. Good speaking with you. And on June fourth said the state was in uncharted territory. Wyoming is facing its largest loss of income in history and that, if every state employees was, let go, the state would still run out of money in two years governor that does not sound good. How dire is the situation there in Wyoming? Well it's substantial it. It truly is, and as you know Peter that Wyoming was blessed with good leadership in the past that set aside a significant permanent men will trust fund, but that cannot be spent to meet this. This particular needs so it really does require that we look carefully at our budget. Roughly half of it is. is wiped out under the worst scenarios, and I will say. The worst scenarios were charted really at the depths of covid nineteen, but still we're going to be forced with making about a fifth of our. Budget cuts in the next year. And what does that look like I know you gave state agencies up until yesterday to come up with a plan for cuts, and I know a lot of people in Wyoming probably wondering if they're going to be losing their jobs. It's certainly challenging, and we've walk through each of the agencies. It's going to cause pain. There's no question about it. Everything from rest stops. That are GonNa have to close to significant parts of our health. Department budget that are going to have to change. It's really the purview of the legislature to raise revenues and Wyoming does not have an income tax. We have some of the lowest taxes in the country. All of our revenues have really been dependent on natural resources, and those natural resources have really stood wyoming well over the last several years and It looks like earlier this year. You signed a law that would reduce the state mineral tax on oil and gas, so considering your situation. Why are you cutting taxes? You consider raising them well. Part of the issue is with the oil and gas war between the Saudis and the Russians. It's certainly hit very hard. The shale producers so part of our reduction in those taxes was to. To keep them viable when the rebound comes, it was essential that we had a low competitive tax structure, and what does the rebound doesn't come or at least doesn't come in the way that it used to be because as you know. The global economy is moving away certainly from coal, and also potentially from from oil and gas A. Why not diversify economy? So you're you're not in. In this problem every time there's a bust well we are. We are working very energetically on that particular front. Wyoming has the most progressive blockchain laws. We have a new digital asset custody banking structure that no other state in the nation has so we are starting to pivot, but I do want to point out that the reason why we're moving from fossil fuels is the advent of. Of Renewables and renewables have a big presence on the landscape and for Wyoming. That's an issue with our migration corridors. That's an issue with our sage grouse habitat so balancing. That was something that we took up in the last legislative session, and I'm proud to say that Wyoming was the first state in the nation to pass a carbon negative standard for all new generation in in Wyoming. And another big story around the country governor, of course, the corona virus. It is affecting you there. We see that quarter of your total confirmed. Cases have been in just the past two weeks. Why not enact a statewide mask mandate in Wyoming? Peter the Wyoming is a collection of twenty three different counties, each with their own, particular dynamic, and so in places like Teton a mandatory face, covering something that was asked for by the businesses there some other counties are much more rural, and they really haven't seen the rise in cases, and they they they see differently, so we've tried to craft a solution that recognizes local conditions on the ground, emphasizes the value of the local health officers, and it's all in coordination with our statewide health officer. Do you think president trump has set a bad example on masks? Is that part of why we've seen such a spike in cases? Well I think it's terribly unfortunate that wearing a mask has become somehow a partisan issue I think freedom is the freedom to wear a mask or not wear a mask I don't appreciate anybody trying to intimidate one person one way or the other I think it's it's really about with rights in our constitution comes the responsibility, and in this case wearing face, covering his absolutely demonstrating your responsibility to the other citizens of this nation. Do I wish that president? Trump would wear a mask more consistently. Sure and I think that's an important thing. Our nation is going to have to contend with, but what I'm saying in Wyoming is gradually. People are becoming more aware that you visit stores. More and more of the population is starting to wear a mask. Governor finally I want to ask you are we saw Oklahoma? Veterans approve a Medicaid expansion this week under the affordable Care Act Wyoming is one of the few states that is not expanded the program. Do you think it's time to reconsider with this pandemic raging and the job losses that have already started across Wyoming? Yeah with in the case of Wyoming. That's been perennial topic for some time The people of Wyoming really haven't felt the need to pass Medicaid expansion yet and and I think for us. The challenge is going to be understanding what the costs are going to be not this year not next year, but but a few years from now I do anticipate as I've said. Everything is on the table this year. We the clearly the challenge we have of their budget requires that we examine everything with a fair and Anjan. Das to so so I anticipate. We'll have a robust conversation about that very topic this year Wyoming. Governor Mark Gordon. Thanks much for your time. Thank you Peter. President trump was bullish on the Labor Department's jobs report today it showed unemployment fell from thirteen point. Three percent in May to eleven point one percent in June. Today's asthma proves that our economy is roaring back. It's coming back extremely strong..

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Cheyenne Frontier Days canceled for 1st time in 124 years

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Cheyenne Frontier Days canceled for 1st time in 124 years

"A crushing blow to the cowboys state today for the first time in one hundred twenty four years Cheyenne frontier days is canceled governor mark Gordon says blame it on covert nineteen this coronavirus thing sucks there are just no two ways about it covered nineteen social distancing protocols make holding frontier days another big rodeo events in Wyoming impossible

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"mark gordon" Discussed on WDRC

WDRC

01:52 min | 1 year ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on WDRC

"Company Wyoming Republican senator John Breaux also defending the decision by governor mark Gordon to not have a state wide lockdown while many people are really staying home area if you go to the grocery store people are wearing mask you can just sense is there a special hours set up for seniors but it is a state where neighbors help neighbors we're going to continue to do it that way also appearing on fox and friends the stay at home ordered Wyoming only in effect in parts of the state for for the centers for disease control and prevention on covert nineteen in children suggests while the illness usually isn't severe and kids some and do get sick enough to require hospitalization lady Gaga the advocacy group global global citizen have raised thirty five million dollars to fight the virus and launch a TV special that will include Paul McCartney Stevie Wonder and Billie Eilis special called one world together but home will air April eighteenth on several major networks will also stream on YouTube Facebook Instagram and other platforms the nation's highest court denies it bit by a Catholic Church to put ads on public buses the Supreme Court denied an appeal from the Catholic Church in Washington DC that was prohibited from placing religious themed ads on public buses by rejecting that appeal a federal appeals court ruling stays in place that panel found no problem with the transit agency's policy banning issue oriented advertisements justice Brett Kavanaugh did not take part in the consideration because he was a member of the lower court who heard the appeal before he joined the Supreme Court if not for that complication justice Neil Gorsuch wrote the supreme court's intervention and reversal would have been warranted Jared Halpern fox news Canadian company has started construction of the keystone XL pipeline despite calls from native American tribe.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

07:11 min | 2 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Berry busy week. I won fifteen today. I think we're gonna talk to Mark Gordon. Murky is the writer and director of awakening in Kansas City it for free if you'd like this weekend that's about one fifteen I think two o'clock today. Simon Brackley CEO Santa Fe chamber of commerce. Lots to talk with Mr. Brackley about two thirty Eric Lucero New Mexico, workforce connections talk about jobs opportunities for you, three o'clock today. It'd be interesting Don Tucker who heads up the flagstaff Shakespeare festival there'd be doing some Sam Sheppard. Near Santa Fe, very soon. It's all I'm going to tell you, Don. Tucker flagstaff Shakespeare festival joins the three. And then three thirty today from the food depot the ever lovely, Jill Dixon. We'll talk about this Saturday Super Bowl. All right. And then you wanna chat about as always the phone number to the studio. He had five zero five four two four twelve sixty. Four two four twelve sixty write it down put it on a postie put it in your phone. I'm gonna give away a pair of ski pass the day full day. Adult live tickets to do ski one of the world's best resort destinations that task valley. They're valued at one hundred and ten dollars a piece they'll give away a pair today. Please call when I tell you to. If you're a skier snowboarder if you're not just like win crap. Do me a favor. Don't let somebody who's actually going to use them on the mountain to call in and win them. The prize two hundred twenty dollars worth of lift tickets. Go ski we'll do that sometime today. Or anything you want to chat about? I mean seriously is a lot. Infinite enough stuff to talk about. All right. But to before I get into talking about stuff alert you to the couple events happening today course tonight at the convention center starting at five is the Santa Fe chamber of commerce legislative. Business. Event. We'll talk to Simon about that at two thirty two o'clock. Also today though today today three o'clock today. At temple Beth Shalom. Fifteen bucks to get in for the entire conference is a clean energy conference. Speaking today at the clean energy conference at temple Shalom starts at three o'clock today will be the governor. She'll have opening remarks for the clean energy conference at three o'clock today at temple Beth Shalom tomorrow, by the way is clean energy day at the Mary row now. So the governor will be participating today as well. New mexico. Commissioner of public lands. Stephanie Garcia, Richard. Two days a climate action. Fifteen bucks lobby trainees legislative briefing press conference climbing alarm action in the Mary roundhouse tomorrow scars at three o'clock today. Temple Shalom, if you want to check out the complete agenda the plan your assault on it Rio Grande Sierra Club, Rio Grande, Sierra Club dot org. Forty four twelve sixty one chat about you talk about the best moment from the weekend. There was some great ones, right? Steve Martin is Roger stone, really, pardon me. How about Alexandra Cossio Cortez? Biblically lyrically literally Biblically schooling. The fake Christian Sarah Sanders on the divinity of planet or. By the way, Sarah Sanders. My opinion of fake Christian. Is scheduled to step up to the podium. I think at the bottom of the hour for the first press briefing in the White House in over a month. Cording to the White House. The president told her on bond there. That's why she hadn't been to the podium dancer questions in over a month. President told her don't bother. They're just going to be mean to you. But she was getting paid during the government shutdown anyway, Alexandria, Cossio Cortez school derby Biblically over the weekend about the divinity planet or. Sarah Sanders said, well, we're not gonna listen to some silly girl like her about climate change, we have bigger experts back climate change. And by the way, I'm a Christian. Also, good good moment over the weekend. For me. Realizing that I am not the only one. Not alone here. Not the only one who thinks this state Representative Alonzo ball denote, a Republican Los Lunas is a chump. Not the only one that thinks that. Which I found very very sad. He is a chump total Trump Mark, Gordon, director writer of a film that you can go. See I do believe for NADA. It is called a waking in towns. Mark good afternoon. Hi, how are you Richard per darn good? All right. So let's start off with wear and how can people see your wonderful film? We'll thank you for saying that it's a weakening and Taus to Mabel dodge Luhan story. It's a New Mexico project, and all, you know, New Mexico crew cast everything and it's going to be airing starting February twenty eight seven PM on PBS Nomex, New Mexico PBS academy. And then a we're kicking off the broadcast. There's a screening at the. Lenses theater on this coming Wednesday at seven o'clock, most of the tickets are going fast. But if you come if you come just before the the screening, you can probably get a seat, and there's also gonna be a screening on February the seventeenth at seven pm at the KIMO theater, which is ticketed. But the one in Santa Fe is is gonna be free courtesy of cannon me New Mexico PBS, but you do need a ticket. You you do you need to call and reserve ticket or or or come, you know, just before the the the show and get in line. And a lotta times the tickets go fast because of their free, but but people don't always show. All right. If you're just all of a sudden, go in your ears perked up and go, wait..

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"mark gordon" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

03:49 min | 2 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on WJR 760

"News. It's the best of the guy Gordon show on WJR. Well, we all after parkland. If there was a lot of very important discussions about how to protect students how to protect faculty in our schools nationwide out of Oakland university, they had those tough conversations, and they have come up with what I think everybody would agree is a unique and novel idea to prepare for an active shooter, a faculty and students on the campus of Oakland. You are arming themselves with hockey pucks. Let's learn more about this time. The centers the Oakland university, professor of communications also president of the faculty union that spearheaded this effort and he's joined by the Oakland police chief Mark, Gordon gentleman. Good afternoon. Hello good afternoon. Hello. So tell me where did I know that you're taught and I've heard from other teachers, I know some teachers that keep Hornets spray in their classroom, others that have got those batons that can be used as nonlethal force. If necessary. Who came up with a hockey puck idea? I have to give credit to Mark Gordon for that. During a training session that he performed with members of. The executive committee of the union we asked what would be an appropriate item to have with us to use to fight back and the cheap. Very thoughtfully told us that he thought a hockey puck would be worthwhile. And is that because chief you've you've had some personal experience with hockey pucks. Well, yeah. I. I have personally I've been hitting the head with a hockey puck before in a hockey game. And so obviously pretty substantial injury to me when that occurred. So when I was asked what would be a good example of an improvised weapon to you than a fight situation. My head just went to hockey puck because I know that I got hit pretty hard by. And again, this is not supposed to be a one on one one hockey versus shooter, right? This is. Whip classroom full of people we've got thirty forty fifty students plus your faculty member all of which have an improvised weapon of some type that they can use should've shooter enter your hiding space. So this is an absolute last resort. The fighting part is a last resort. We teach the the run hide fight strategies. And always always always run and hide is your first priority and the fighting part in what you fight with is secondary to having a plan having you understanding about preparedness a defense level or defense plan in your classroom. And what does that look like should should the worst case scenario occur? So what would you say to the skeptics out there that would say look for someone within AR fifteen that's coming in that this is kind of silly. And what you really need in the classroom is is a good guy with a gun. Well, you know, there's always that political argument that that's ongoing at Oakland university. We don't have that option because we have an ordinance that banned weapons on campus. So if you're in a pistol free zone, if you're an instructor if you're a professor and you want some options having a weapon in the classroom is not an option. So you can talk about guns in the classroom while you'd like it's as simple as prohibited Oakland university and many other universities. So knowing that what the next best thing you can do to mount a defense. So in in terms of the reaction to this has been sting who all has stepped forward to donate money to buy these hockey parts in the sporting equipment. Sure. This is Tom again, I can tell.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on WJR 760

WJR 760

10:44 min | 2 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on WJR 760

"At Oakland university are arming themselves with hockey pucks. Idea of using the quirky self-defense tool grew out of a training session. That police chief Mark Gordon led in March for faculty members on what they should do if a gunman enders classroom. Participant asked what people could bring to campus to better prepare in case. They need to fight back university has a no weapons policy. Right. Gordon's advice? Be ready to throw anything anything that could distract shooter. Even a hockey puck as a last resort if Flaine or hiding wasn't an option. It was just a kind of spur of the moment idea that seemed to have some merit to it. And it kind of caught on following up on the suggestion. Tom descent, a professor of communication and president of the faculty union spearheaded an effort by the union to purchase two thousand five hundred ninety four cent hockey pucks. Eight hundred for the faculty union members and another one thousand seven hundred for students distribution of the pucks on campus began earlier this month. It's just the idea of having something a reminder that you're not powerless, and you're not helpless in the classroom. Okay. The little black discs have a dual purpose. They are also part of a campaign to raise funds to install interior locks on classroom doors, some doors are only lockable from the hallway. The pucks are imprinted with a number that people can enter on the university's website to donate money towards the new locks. We know lock in the classroom in on itself is a big deterrent to a shorter being able to enter the room. So there you go. As a former goalie. Who was innocent say. Hockey puck target. Yes that that's that's another way to describe a gore. My defender of the target. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You just happened to be in the way of the tar the major insure job to defend that. Right. The mayor you go in in fact, it was my job and my only job to seek out the projectile. And my only goal was my hand eye coordination to stop. The hockey puck with any body appendage. Available. Wow. Let's just say mostly. Hans hands Enzi tans legs chest head one of the best saves ever. Made was with my head hands. Elbows knees and toes, I made an and my buddy Jeff will verify. It was a practice. Right. We we just having a practice game. And he came in. He had a breakaway comes in and a breakaway. And. He had no intention of trying to around me. Why would you do that? And so just flimflam. So so he comes in. And of course, he's gonna take the slapshot because his whole goal is to hurt me nuts. But that's what best friends do when you're hockey best friend, right? So he winds up and for the majority of you that have never played goal. You sort of in your head figure out where the stick angle is. You gotta be moving before. The puck is really too far off that stick right. So I assumed that he was going. Not to my short side. But to the where of wide open area is to the left of me because he was coming in. You know, looking on the going the right side. Right. So I started moving then I realized the puck was going towards short side, my whole body's moving so through my head down the mask and blocked the puck blocked his slapshot with my head. I came to in the stands. I was it. It wasn't the cage kind of mask. It was this going back to the seventy. So it was the mask member the plastic mask. Yeah. The Mike Myers mask. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Mike Myers MAC, right? Michael myers. Michael Meyer, right to be clear micrometres. Yes. Yes. Although that would be funny. It wouldn't be very protective. Right. Even though. No, wait a minute. Didn't he play goalie with with what's his name with the waning? Played hockey in the street. I don't know if you what kind of mask leeward, but Garth was the goalie. I believe yeah, Garth. Okay. Not wayne. And they really didn't offer. You know, you you felt tonight a great big Ida, gray huge. I mean, black and blue Mark under my I for the longest time. Thank goodness. It didn't break anything in my face. But you know, I guess, you know, if you if you have nothing else you can throw it. I would assume that if somebody had a weapon somebody throwing a hockey puck is going to. Isn't going to do much. And I thought of this to the first thing I thought about if you've got all these students with hockey pucks. Someone's gonna throw one at somebody someday. And that's going to be viewed as a weapon, and then the hockey pucks will have to be taken off campus. Well, if if all weapons are banned from campus. That's the first thing that hit me when you were presenting the story is that you bought them to to use them as weapons so they are in effect weapons now, right? You didn't buy them to play hockey. New Botham is weapons does that violate? Oh that was that violate the policy. You bought them as weapons? And throwing a hockey puck is a lot different. I I assume that most people can throw a hockey puck with the same acceleration that it comes off a hockey stick. When somebody's taking a slap shot or even a rich shot. Well, because when I first saw the headline to the story, I thought well, man, you you've got to be pretty good. You know, with your stick really, you know, make it hit the go work needs to go. Because that's the only way you could really use that as a weapon throwing it. Whether a number of things you could throw. Why hockey puck? Because somebody suggested it. Well, their weapons they were bought his weapons in you're right. They're violating the policy. If it indeed does say, no weapons of any kind and how effective would they be? I guess if you had a lucky shot hit him in the head you could distract them a little bit. Will you is it it's not like it's not like you're again. It's not like you're taking a shot. He hit somebody right in and knock him out while it's you're you're throwing it, and it's it's a ridiculous notion. Yes. Anyone there? There are many bright people in situations. Like that when when it does happen, there are we've told the stories. But the fact that you're going to again plan to use a hockey puck. I don't know that you can plan for that outside of having armed security guards on campus. Well, here's here's the point anything that you can throw that's heavy and will cause damage cause injury is the bottom line to what you're trying to do. And that's the whole point does that make a weapon, right? A hockey. Puck was just the thing that was suggested that could possibly work, especially when you have twenty to thirty people in a classroom, and they alter the hockey pucks at the same time that would be quite a distraction. Yeah. Gordon stretch of the university is active shooter training sessions which are held several times a year focused on flame first. And then if that's not possible hiding fighting back by throwing a hockey puck or through other means should be an absolute last strategy. Yeah. Well, again, you're you are clearly outmatched. I don't even know why this would be part of the planning the planning would be too. I think that if you're not going to have armed security guards on campus even. Or allow or allow teachers to be armed or allow students? Yeah. Right. Then if you're not gonna do that, then you're going to have to. Find a way for the doors to become secure. And beyond that, this is ridiculous that you would even think of this kind of what they spend twenty five hundred bucks or something like that. Yeah. How far could twenty five hundred bucks? Go bucks go for. And they said they don't have the money. They brought all these hockey pucks with the money to put in lock the door from the inside. Right. Yeah. It doesn't add up. Yeah. I if it gives people hope. While who honestly what critical thinker? I know. It's a by the way, I rolled my eyes when I said that so people, but the. The critical thinker Ben and really you don't have to have great critical thinking skills in this situation. Dismisses that very quickly. In in a moment like that. And I can't even imagine because I've never been in that situation. But in a moment like that, you're panicking. Everybody doesn't raise that's a great point number as raise up to throw. The gunman is in the door. And we're all standing there ready to throw our hockey pot. Right. We're well scenario that in unison that's not going to happen. Unfortunately, you are in a gun free zone. And the bad guy knows that. And also gets that problem also gun-related Dick's sporting goods considers removing hunting supplies from their stores because of a decline in sales since they banned selling guns to anyone under twenty one and stopped stocking assault rifles. So there you go. They've already pulled hunting gear from at least ten of their stores. Wow. Now,.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

760 KFMB Radio

11:05 min | 2 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio

"All across America, eight six six ninety redeye. He's currently and I'm Gary McNamara. All right. I'm going to read the story to you here because I have experience in this. Okay. Right. Yeah. This from Oakland university. To prepare for an active shooter faculty and students at Oakland university are arming themselves with hockey pucks. Idea of using the Corky self-defense tool grew out of a training session. That police chief Mark Gordon led in March for faculty members on what they should do. If gunman enters a classroom. I'm participant asked. What people could bring to campus to better prepare in case. They need to fight back university has a no weapons policy. Right. Gordon's advice? Be ready to throw anything anything that could distract shooter. Even a hockey puck as a last resort if Flaine or hiding wasn't an option. It was just a kind of spur of the moment idea that seemed to have some merit to it. And it kind of caught on following up on these suggestion. Tom descent, a professor of communication and president of the faculty union spearheaded an effort by the union to purchase two thousand five hundred ninety four cent hockey pucks. Eight hundred for the faculty union members and another one thousand seven hundred for students distribution of the puck on campus began earlier this month. It's just your idea of having something a reminder that you're not powerless, and you're not helpless in the classroom. Okay. The little black discs have a dual purpose. They are also part of a campaign to raise funds to install interior locks on classroom doors, some doors are only lockable from the hallway. The pucks are imprinted with a number that people can enter on the university's website to donate money towards the new locks. We know lock in the classroom. In on itself is a big deterrent to assure being able to enter the room. There you go. As a former goalie. Who was innocent say. Hockey puck target. Yes, that that's that's another way to describe a defender of the target. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You just happened to be in the way of the target. It's your job to defend that. Right. The mayor go in in fact, it was my job. And my only job to seek out the projectile and my only goal. Was my hand eye coordination to stop the hockey puck with any body appendage. Available. Wow. Let's just say mostly. Hans hands Enzi tans legs chest head one of the best saves ever. Made was with my head hands. Elbows knees and toes, I made an my buddy Jeff will verify. It was a practice. Right. We should we just having a practice game. And he came in. He had a breakway comes in and a breakaway. And he had no intention of trying to Deka around me. Why would you do that? And so just flimflam. So so he comes in. And of course, he's gonna take the slapshot because his whole goal is to hurt me. And that's that's the best friends do when you're hockey best friend. So he winds up and for the majority of you that have never played goal. You sort of in your head figure out where the stick angle is. You gotta be moving before. The puck is really too far off that stick right. So I assumed that he was going. Not to my short side. But to the where the wide open area is to the left of me Kirk because he was coming in, you know, looking on the going the right side. Right. So I started moving then I realized the puck was going towards a short side my whole body's moving. So I just through my head down the mask and blocked the puck blocked his slapshot with my head. I came to in the stands. I was it wasn't the cage kind of mask was going back to the seventy. So it was the mask member the plastic mask. Yeah. The Mike Myers mask. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mike myers. Right. Michael myers. Michael myers. To be clear. Yes. Yes. Although that would be funny. It wouldn't be very protective. Right. Even though. No, wait a minute. Didn't he play goalie with with what's his name with didn't waning? Played hockey in the street. I don't know if you've what kind of mask leeward but guards was the goalie. I believe Garth. Okay. Not wing. And they really didn't offer. You felt tonight. A great big. I had great huge. I mean, black and blue Mark under my I for the longest time. Thank goodness. It didn't break anything in my face. But I guess, you know, if you if you have nothing else you can throw it. I would assume that if somebody had a weapon somebody throwing a hockey puck is going to. Isn't going to do much. And I thought of this to the first thing I thought about if you've got all these students with hockey pucks. Someone's gonna throw in at somebody someday. And that's going to be viewed as a weapon, and then the hockey pucks will have to be taken off campus. Well, if if all weapons are banned from campus. That's the first thing that hit me when you were presenting the story is that you bought them to to use them as weapons so they are in effect weapons now, right? You didn't buy them to play hockey. New bought them as weapons does that violate. Oh that was that violate the policy. You bought them as weapons? And throwing a hockey puck is a lot different. I I assume that most people can throw a hockey puck with the same acceleration that it comes off a hockey stick. When somebody's taking a slap shot or even a wrist shot. Well, because when I first saw the headline to the story, I thought well, man, you you've got to be pretty good. With your stick to really make it hit the work needs to go. Because that's the only way you could really use that as weapon throwing it. Well, there are a number of things you throw. Why are hockey puck? Because somebody suggested it. Well, their weapons they were bought his weapons and you're right. They're violating the policy. If it indeed does say, no weapons of any kind and how effective would they be? I guess if you had a lucky shot hit him in the head you could distract him a little bit. Will you is it it's not like it's not like you're again as you're taking a slapshot had somebody right and knock him out while you're throwing it, and it's it's a ridiculous notion. Yes. Anyone there? There are many bright people in situations. Like that when when it does happen there. We've pulled the stories. But the fact that you're going to again plan to use a hockey puck. I don't know that you can plan for that outside of having armed security guards on campus. Well, here's here's the point anything that you can throw that's heavy and will cause damage cause injury is the bottom line to what you're trying to do. And that's the whole point does that make a weapon, right? A hockey. Puck was just the thing that was suggested that could possibly work, especially when you have twenty to thirty people in a classroom, and they alter the hockey pucks at the same time that would be quite a distraction. Yeah. Gordon stretch of the university is active shooter training sessions which are held several times a year focus on flame first. And then if that's not possible hiding fighting back by throwing a hockey puck or through other means should be an absolute last strategy. Yeah. Well, I again, you're you are clearly outmatched. I don't even know why this would be part of the planning the planning would be too. I think that if you're not going to have armed security guards on campus even. Or allow or allow teachers to be armed or Lao students. Right. Then if you're not gonna do that, then you're going to have to. Find a way for the doors to become secure. And beyond that, this is ridiculous that you would even think of this kind of what they spend twenty five hundred bucks. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. How far can twenty five hundred bucks? Go bucks go for and they said, they don't have the money. They brought all these hockey pucks. But they don't have money to put in lock the door from the inside. Right. Yeah. It doesn't add up. Yeah. If it gives people hope. While who honestly what critical thinker? I know by the way, I rolled my eyes when I said that so people, but the. The critical thinker Ben and really you don't have to have great critical thinking skills in this situation. Dismisses it very quickly. In a moment like that. And I can't even imagine because I've never been in that situation. But in a moment like that, you're panicking. Everybody doesn't raise. That's a great point numbers. Raise up to throw. The gunman is in the door. And we're all standing there ready to throw our hockey pot. Right. We're well scenario you that in unison. That's not going to happen. Unfortunately. Do you are in a gun free zone and the bad guy knows that. And also guest that problem also gun related Dick's sporting goods considers removing hunting supplies from their stores because of a decline in sales since they banned selling guns to anyone under twenty one and stopped stocking assault rifles. So there you go. They've already pulled hunting gear from at least ten of their stores. Wow. Now, they're considering.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

11:55 min | 2 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"All across America, eight six six ninety redeye. He's her Carly and I'm Gary McNamara. All right. I'm going to read the story to you here because I have experience in this. Okay. Right. This from Oakland university. To prepare for an active shooter faculty and students at Oakland university are arming themselves with hockey pucks. Idea of using the quirky self-defense tool grew out of a training session. That police chief Mark Gordon led in March for faculty members on what they should do if a gunman enters a classroom. A participant asked what people could bring to campus to better prepare in case, they need to fight back university has a no weapons policy. Right. Gordon's advice? Be ready to throw anything anything that could distract the shooter. Even a hockey puck as a last resort if Flaine or hiding wasn't an option. It was just a kind of spur of the moment idea that seemed to have some merit to it. And it kind of caught on following up on the suggestion. Tom. Professor of communication and president of the faculty union spearheaded an effort by the union to purchase twenty five hundred ninety four cent hockey pucks. Eight hundred for the faculty union members and another one thousand seven hundred for students distribution of the on campus began earlier this month. It's just you idea of having something a reminder that you're not our list, and you're not helpless in the classroom. Okay. The little black discs have dual purpose. They are also part of a campaign to raise funds to install interior locks on classroom doors, some doors are only lockable from the hallway. The pucks are imprinted with a number that people can enter on the university's website to donate money towards the new locks. We know lock in the classroom in on itself is a big deterrent to shorter being able to enter the room. There you go. As a former goalie. Who was innocent say. Hockey puck target. Yes. That that's another way to describe a gore. My defender of the target. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You just happen to be in the way of the the major issue job to defend the to right? The may go in. In fact, it was my job and my only job to seek out the projectile. And my only goal was my hand eye coordination to stop. The hockey puck with any body appendage. Available. Well. Let's just say mostly. Hans hands Enzi tans legs chest head one of the best saves ever. Made was with my head hands. Elbows knees and toes, I made an my buddy Jeff will verify. It was a practice. Right. We just having a practice game. And he came in. He had a breakway comes in and a breakaway. And he had no intention of trying to Dc around me. Why would they do that? And so was just flimflam. So so he comes in. And of course, he's gonna take the slapshot because his whole goal is to hurt me. And that's what that's what best friends do when you're hockey best friend, right? So he winds up and for the majority of you that have never played goal. You sort of in your head figure out where the stick angle is. You gotta be moving before. The puck is really too far off that stick right. So I assume that he was going. Not to my short side. But to the word wide open area is to the left of me because he was coming in. You know, looking on the going the right side. Right. So I started moving then I realized the puck was going towards a short side on my whole body's moving through my head down the mask and block the puck blocked his slapshot with my head. I came to in the stands. I was it. It wasn't the cage kind of mask was this going back to the seventy. So it was the mask. Remember the plastic mask? Yeah. The Mike Myers mask. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Mike Myers, man. Right. Michael myers. Michael Meyer right to be clear. Yes. Yes. Although that would be funny. It wouldn't be very protective. Right. Even though. No, wait a minute. Didn't he play goalie with with what's his name with didn't waning? Played hockey in the street. I don't know if you what kind of mask, but Garth was the goalie. I believe Garth. Okay. Not wayne. And they really did offer. You felt tonight a great big Ida grape huge. I mean, black and blue Mark under my I for the longest time. Thank goodness. It didn't break anything in my face. But. Know, I guess, you know, if you if you have nothing else Nelson throw it I would assume that if somebody had a weapon somebody throwing a hockey puck is going to isn't going to do much, and I thought of this to the first thing I thought about if you've got all these students with hockey pucks someone's going to throw at somebody someday. And that's going to be viewed as a weapon, and then the hockey pucks will have to be taken off campus. Well, if if all weapons are banned from campus. That's the first thing that hit me when you were presenting the story is that you bought them to to use them as weapons so they are in effect weapons now, right? You didn't buy them to play hockey. New Botham has weapons does that violate? Oh that was that violate the policy. You bought them as weapons? And throwing a hockey puck is a lot different. I I assume that most people can throw a hockey puck with the same acceleration that it comes off a hockey stick. When somebody's taking a slapshot or even a rich shot. Well, because when I saw the headline to the story, I thought well, man, you you've got to be pretty good. With your stick to really make hit the go work needs to go. Because that's the only way you could really use you as weapon throwing it. Well, there are a number of things you could throw. Why a hockey puck? Because somebody suggested it. Well, their weapons they were bought as weapons, you're right. They're violating the policy. If it indeed does say, no weapons of any kind and how effective would they be? I guess if you had a lucky shot hit him in the head you could distract them a little bit. Will you is it it's not like it's not like you're again as you're taking a slap shot. He hit somebody writing and knock him out while it's you're throwing it, and it's it's a ridiculous notion. Yes. Anyone there? There are many bright people in situations. Like that when when it does happen there. We've told the stories. But the fact that you're going to again plan to use a hockey puck. I don't know that you can plan for that outside of having armed security guards on campus. Well, here's here's the point anything that you can throw that's heavy and will cause damage cause injury is the bottom line to what you're trying to do. And that's the whole point does that make a weapon, right? A hockey. Puck was just the thing that was suggested that could possibly work, especially when you have twenty to thirty people in a classroom, and they all throw the hockey pucks at the same time that would be quite a distraction. Yeah. Gordon stretch of the universities active shooter training sessions, which are held several times a year focus on flame first. And then if that's not possible hiding fighting back by throwing a hockey puck or through other means should be an absolute last strategy. Yeah. Well, I again, you're you are clearly outmatched. I don't even know why this would be part of the planning the planning would be too. I think that if you're not going to have armed security guards on campus even. Or allow or allow teachers to be armed or allow students? All right. Then if you're not gonna do that, then you're going to have to. Find a way for the doors to become secure. And beyond that, this is ridiculous that you would even think of this kind of what they spend twenty five hundred bucks or something that. Yeah. How far could twenty five hundred bucks? Go bucks go for and they said, they don't have the money. They brought all these hockey puck with the money to put in lock the door from the inside. Right. Yeah. It doesn't add up. Yeah. If it gives people hope. While who honestly what critical thinker? I know. It's a by the way, I rolled my eyes when I said that so people, but the. The critical thinker, and and really you don't have to have great critical thinking skills in this situation. Dismisses it very quickly. In in a moment like that. And I can't even imagine because I've never been in that situation. But in a moment like that, you're panicking. Everybody doesn't raise. That's a great point numbers. Raise up to throw. The gunman is in the door. And we're all standing there ready to throw our hockey pot. Right. We're well in area that will do that in unison. That's not going to happen. Unfortunately, do you are in a gun free zone. And the bad guy knows that. And also gets that problem also gun related Dick's sporting goods considers removing hunting supplies from their stores because of a decline in sales since they banned selling guns to anyone under twenty one and stopped. Stocking assault rifles. So there you go. They've already pulled hunting gear from at least ten of their stores. Wow. Now, they're considering pulling those products from more stores. That's just the way the market works. Right. If you don't have what people are looking for they'll go elsewhere. So there you go. All right. But the hockey puck story I had to bring to you. Yeah. It's ridiculous notion fixed the whole gun free zone thing. If you really want to do some some constructive, planning fix that problem. As long as that situation exists. You're not going to be able to protect the students and faculty and staff on that campus with hockey pucks, not going to happen. If you want to get him. We do have a line open eight six six ninety redeye. Gotch with would.

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Barrasso Easily Wins Primary for Wyoming Senate Race

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Barrasso Easily Wins Primary for Wyoming Senate Race

"Republican Senator John Barossa was going to face a reelection bid against Democrat. Gary trailer this November Barosso cruise to win in. Tuesday's primary it gets his. Closest challenger Dave Johnson trailer ran unopposed in the. Democratic race the stage is also set for Wyoming's race for. Governor. Wyoming treasurer Mark Gordon won the Republican nomination for governor, over businessman foster freeze who are President Trump's complete and, total endorsement, former Wyoming state house Representative Mary thrown when the democratic nomination for governor

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Elite Man Podcast

Elite Man Podcast

01:32 min | 3 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Elite Man Podcast

"Traumatic brain injury from just the blast the impact it didn't actually hit him but the waves or whatever the vibrations it whatever it is that causes it can often times leave the ti so he was working with the guy by the name of dr mark gordon believes out in california and they ended up pinpointing his issues just to an imbalance in his neurotransmitter so they got him on some some supplements some hormone balancing things and he was fine and like a few months whereas he was severely depressed and suicidal for like a year or two afterwards and it was simply just a matter of his chemicals neurotransmitters upstairs being off balance so i think you know the work that you're doing guys like him is really helpful and can it can save so my countless lives of just people who need a little help whether it's something like that where it's you know an imbalance upstairs or whether it's more support like you guys offer i think the work you're doing is profound and much needed so his organization is an organization that we would we would tend to bond with just basically biochemistry education what you you said was saw clement's in and with health so it's it's it's number one i mean what goes in your mouth goes your gut goes to your brain feeds what would tissue body what to do your body would pretty much basically heal itself and i'm very careful when i say this all get the doctor to call me i'll get somebody over here to call me in just try to prove me wrong but you know what i'll always be wrong something but your body will heal itself.

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"mark gordon" Discussed on Perspective

Perspective

01:50 min | 3 years ago

"mark gordon" Discussed on Perspective

"Mark gordon son daniel was only seven years old when he was murdered mark called him his special little buddy very was an exceptionally sweet compassionate little soul he literally used to look out for other people we to call him the caretaker of all living things while the memories of daniel are everywhere the ap's since he left behind is immeasurable another life lost that day new coal lease six year old son dylan dillon was just pure love he had these gorgeous blue eyes in this amazing smile and this laugh this giggle at people used to tickle him just to hear him giggle icf guy several butterflies yes so being artistic one of governor a if movements that dylann had was to flat and he would flap his arms of down whenever he got excited which is pretty much all the time and i asked him once why do you flab and he said because i am a futile butterfly and at his funeral i talked about how the theory of a butterfly flapping at swings on one side of the world can cause a hurricane on the other side in their sorrow nicole mark found a new purpose to prevent school shootings not through legislation but by thwarting the path of a wouldbe shooter starting sandy hook promise i'm here at the scene of tomorrow's shooting the foundation uses pierce as and grassroots efforts training schools to recognize the warning signs an act before it's too late because gun regulation nicole says is too controversial there's so much of a fight that occurs whenever you mentioned the word gun and we need to refrain this conversation take the gun out of the discussion and focus on what are we need to do to keep each other in our case.

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