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"mark fisher mark" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Didn't make it through. Well, let's start with Indigo Bob. That was a major deal to to deal with in you. Go say Senator and Freeman had proposed legislation that would have put him he goes money in the bank until they until they raised a certain amount of money from not for profit. What is the future of Indigo? Do you? Do you see here, My friend? Yeah, I wanna I wanna be clear by the board member video, which I am. You know, we fully feel and that Indios in compliance with the 2014 law. Um and I think Indios continue to plan Thebes elopement, the construction, the rollout of the purple and blue lines that believes, uh, the purple line should be going up to bed soon. So I think you know, you'll see some development along that post road and 38 3 corridor on then starting toe to prepare for the for the blue line. So, um, a safari Indigo's concerned they believe that they're working to deliver the plan of the voters of marrying Kenny overwhelmingly supported in 2016. There's been some discussion about about about the size of lanes and how the plains beyond West Washington Street and I thought, my friends that was just a bit much. It's like, okay, I understand that. But the city's our cities are governed by the state. I get that, but we started getting to the number of lanes back and forth like that. So you're just gonna be a bit much? Yeah, I think that you know it did cause a lot of good discussion between legislators and indigo to look at what some solutions are with some accommodation could be made without threatening the federal program, the federal grand dollars and the infrastructure money that comes with that, you know, it's not just about billion bus lanes, but it's about fixing that drainage and sewage and putting, you know, pedestrian infrastructure and completely rebuilding and re paving the streets. So, um, you know what? It's always good to know. Listen to the constituencies, listen to their elected officials see what concessions can be made, but ultimately without jeopardy, jeopardizing that funny, And so I think it's a healthy discussion but again, focusing on delivering on the plan that the voters overwhelmingly supported. What So whatever your folks heard from the from the residents on both ends of Washington Street. About into going and the plants to do tip Kendall. But what was done to Meridian? Yeah. You know, I think that you know, we work very closely with the Gateway, The gateway, which is the CDC on the west side of the Westside Merchants groups and, um, you hear from residents that this is a big game changing opportunity toe to reimagine, um, especially on the West side kind of that connective itty between airport in downtown a lot of energy and momentum out. Out of the airport with emphasis and said ex expansions and left with great care connectivity on Ben, we you have downtown and in between. It's a area town that could use a little bit of Ah, love and attention, So I think that they're seeing this is an opportunity for one of the more dangerous What's wife Industries? One of the more dangerous pedestrian corridors, so enhancing safety as well. Certainly on the East side overwhelmingly supported it in a referendum, And I think that they want that same opportunity. You see investment going up along the blue line. Fine old Angie's list campus. You see the investment of the old PR Mallory facility that now houses multiple charter schools utilized Indio, Um, for transportation services. So I think that they seen the but the infrastructure improvements but also the opportunity to capitalize on some this investment that is targeted and maybe in the blood of Hilaria, the midtown area or downtown. They from what we hear that it's not unanimous finding means, but Opportunity to capitalize on on that investment, infrastructure investment and Seymour more dollars flowing into those communities. Our guest on the program today is a good friend, Mark Fisher Mark fishes with the indie chamber director of policy and so we're just getting caught up on some of the things going in and around the city of Indianapolis. Mark. Obviously, crime is a major issue here in the city and effects. Mysticism effects. Quality of life. What is the chambers position? On crime. I know you guys are against it, but I don't think you know I can't talk about that in a while. Crime in bad crime is bad for business. Certainly. York. You're right. It Z. It's not just an image problem because businesses are made up of people in these people live in the community. And so people have to feel safe in the communities that they're going to invest in. And they're gonna raise families in taking a, um You know the active citizens, and so it is it is concerning, um, I And, um, you know, kind of trend that mirror national trends of other large cities. That's not an excuse. But you know, we have supported some of the changes made of the local level toe rebuild that communication that trust between the community and the police. Um, you know, you can't continue to do the same thing over and over and expect different results. And I think we definitely support our men and women that serve in public safety and our first Under, um and and we want to see them protected and get more support but also see how we can improve those the police community relations which is so key to solving some of these challenges. You know, the police need good trust amongst the citizen. Eight e o be partners and probably needs And so, um, it is unfortunate that we're going through this. Um and certainly we hope with the city development strategies that Not just address the short term issue that we're seeing. But also long term issues is a communication between the city and certain segment of the community that challenging because I don't think in Annapolis is like, say, Chicago, my hometown or Minneapolis where, where were you know kind of folks behaving badly? Sort of on both sides of everything you know? I look at once. So much higher than it is today. And I don't want to look at the don't want to name the exact status because I haven't looked at them in a couple weeks. But you know if you're not solving the murders and murderers or on the street, and then you're gonna see this perpetuate, and so if you if you look at just that, once that it shows that we have some form of communication across breakdown that needs to be addressed. Mark Fisher with us on the program. Talking about the any chamber and some of the issues going on in around the city, mark something I thought was interesting. This kind of goes back to the Legislature..
"mark fisher mark" Discussed on KGO 810
"Conversation at 80 88 cents. Now, Chip Franklin J. G. 08 10. I'm not playing by their rules anymore. Karen. What is that? Trump? You don't know? No idea, Probably a movie. I haven't seen ground Hog's day. I'm not playing by their rules anymore. You have to say it's a great you never saw grounds that I love that movie. That's what he's driving and killing himself all the time, anyway. Um yeah, Today is, of course, Ground Hog's day, and it is Let's hope that we don't really have 2020 again. But so far, 2021 has said. It's early obstacles. The good news, of course, with the political stuff, but bad news. Is where we're continuing to see the problems with covert. And this these new variants here in southern and well in California, especially southern California, the South African Varian seems to really be kicking in. And we're all that stands. I don't know, but there's going to be an impeachment trial coming up. And the question really, is this do we should we really do that? Joining me right now. Senior editor of the Washington Post Mark Fisher, Mark, I, You know, I understand. The anger. I I'm sure you've seen that video that AOC put out where she thought she might die. That was pretty emotional stuff. Yeah, And we've seen similar reactions at least early on from both Democrats and Republicans. I mean, the people who were inside that building, especially the people inside the chamber of both the House and the Senate, were afraid for their lives. And if this trial goes on for a while, we're going to see the Democrats again and again. Try to remind the Republican colleagues of just how scared they were just wanna threaten. This was and just what a historic Uh, provocation or assault. This was on on our democracy, and the Republicans are going to, um, either pretend or genuinely fall into a case of collective amnesia. Yeah, Maybe we were scared, but we should just move on. Are we reaching a little far, though, to say that President Trump was responsible for what happened there. I mean, these be people were planning it the ones that actually went in looking to try to hurt people and the others. It was kind of an impromptu moment. Um, I don't know. It just seems to me that's it's kind of a stretch to say that he's you know, inside it on insurrection. Well, I think both can be true to one extent or another. I think the more we learn about the planning for that attack, the Mauritz clear that people came to Washington for that purpose had planned. This will before that more rally the same morning where Trump spoke. So you can't possibly argue that Trump's speech was the solitary thing that drove people to attack the capital. What the Democrats are the Impeachment managers are arguing was that Trump was singularly responsible for the mayhem, not just because of what he said that morning, but because of everything that he's done over the previous weeks and months to raise doubts to sow doubt in the minds of radicals, that election had somehow been stolen, And that's an easier case to make. Then that speech that morning was what made them go off and run into the capital. So you know, I think we're going to see The Republicans pushing back and saying a. He's no longer president. This doesn't matter that sort of thing. But Democrats do as you say, have a very tough climb here because they have to try to persuade the other side that this was all trump. When any any look at that. The people who were in there being violent and bashing through windows and such, we tell you that their radicalization began. Many months, if not years earlier. Yeah. I mean, you know, I just look at this. I mean, Trump never said attack the capital. He never said Let's go get the capital, he said. We're gonna march to the capital as as millions of people have in the last 100 years for all types of protests, right? S o. You know, I'm again We have this. This other case for the Supreme Court. Back in. 1969 ruled it was clan leaders. Language could not be loot that loosely interpreted as to Having caused people to do really bad things. It's almost like you know if if if I taught you how to shoplift And you went out and assaulted somebody. Yeah, I taught you how to be a criminal. But I'm not responsible for the other things you do. Well, yes, that's true. On the other hand, as the Democrats argue, Uh Trump clearly was trying to rile up the mob and get them to march to the capital. He clearly had sewed their their doubts that had given them the impression that the election had been stolen. The whole stop the steel movement was indeed of the president's creation. But I mean that Z. Not that's not about to call the violence stopped steel. You say Stop the steel smack him over the head. That's another thing. But stop. The steel is not in e mean There's some real thin lice here. I think Yeah, It's a tough one. But there are good arguments on both sides and on the Democratic side they have. What they've done is they've gone back to many of the founding documents around the Constitution on they made clear that history tells us that the framers of the Constitution we're worried about having presidents who might be corrupt and might spare no effort to get re elected, and they wanted to have a check against That on. So they drafted the Constitution to, uh, push back in this any threat of civil disorder, especially as ordered by a president. Now Trump's own lawyers who filed a brief today that is amateurish at best. Their defense of him is on this First Amendment notion. The idea that Hey, it's perfectly fine for him to say that the election was stolen from him. That's his opinion on. There's no factor to the to the contrary. Well, there is facts of the country, and it's in the form of rulings buddy more than 60 judges, many of them appointed by Trump himself, so the facts have been determined and theologian was one parent square. So to defend that, on his statements on First Amendment grounds is a bit much. Especially since their their Supreme Court law that rulings that specifically say that guarantees of free speech do not allow you to advocate for the use of force or to incite Lawless action on inside. Look, When did he do that excited? When did he actually do that? I mean, you know, that's the thing Is it to me? I hate this guy so much and he's going to get another day. In the limelight. Everybody's going to be watching this thing. He's going to spend this time talking about how the election was stolen, and then they're gonna quote him and it's going to be another. You know, he'll hold up. The newspaper again acquitted. And it's the same old crap and we fell for it. We felt for Well, the Democrats seemed absolutely determined to go down this road and didn't take the time to consider what it would do to Joe Biden's agenda didn't want it would take the time to consider how it would stymie his efforts to unite the country and didn't really consider the proposals from even some of their own colleagues like Tim Kaine, the senator from Virginia. Said. Let's not do this whole trial thing with just censure him. Get it on the record that the president behaved badly violated his oath of office on Leave it at that. Yeah. Hey, It's funny..
"mark fisher mark" Discussed on KGO 810
"Did you bring with you on KGO? That compilation of Trumpian violent I only played half of it. Bridge audience hit back, and that's what we need a little bit more of now part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long. Is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right? I don't know if I would have done well, but I would have been out there fight, folks. I don't know that would have done well, but I would have been blown boom full of Pete. Do you plan on paying for the legal fees of I mean, I get this goes on and on and on. I have dozens of examples. Of Trump calling for violence against people. So this was on Laura Ingraham show once, and she says That's not true. And I go and I have the dates I said, Go look at the dates, you know, I mean, but they cut me off. That's what happened. Starting right now. Senior editor The Washington Post Mark Fisher Mark I know you're tremendously busy and All this coming. I appreciate the time. What is What is your take on what's happened here? Everybody seems so surprised by the 10 votes, and I thought, Well, that's that's a pretty low bar. Well, it is a little bar, and certainly it doesn't speak well of the Republican Party that he despite the fact that dozens, if not, hundreds of Republican members of Congress were appalled by what happened last year and do directly blame the president for inciting it. Nonetheless take for the most part, couldn't bring themselves to vote accordingly, and that speaks to their continued Year. Their fear of their own voters and their fear of danger or violence against themselves and their families. Excuse me, and from what we've heard through, they have some good reason to fear that the threat assessment from Theo FBI and other law enforcement agencies that there have indeed been threats against members of Congress and that there are indeed those who want to do them harm. So does that justify a spineless boat? You know, Certainly, there were hundreds of Democrats who voted for impeachment and presumably faced similar threats. So it doesn't It doesn't explain everything. But it certainly is a reason that many Republicans have cited Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people understand what about Clinton, right? Yeah. And for what it's worth, I think Clinton should have been removed from office as well. He lied to a federal judge in a deposition. On it was that Z perjury? That's that is a big crime on do. The Democrats did not vote to remove him either on that was probably because of the way that Ken Starr and others had just suddenly the waters. But this is nothing like that. Obviously, I mean, that was lying to a judge in a deposition about a sexual harassment suit. Not to belittle that This is a coup against against the legislative branch of your government. We're gonna find out in the days and weeks ahead. Val Demings has come out and said she thinks there's three Congress people that the FBI's looking at As being part of this. I mean, if that's all true, I mean, we're gonna have to revisit the this'll entire thing meeting with you. We may end up seeing some members of Congress expelled. Uh, for their role in either organizing Theus assault or assisting with the assault. Uh, those Congress members have denied these allegations so far, but from what we're hearing, there's a serious investigation going on. Look, you know the bottom line here is what do you want out of this? What kind of punishment is deserved, But also what kind of punishment makes sense And that's where you see a lot of division in both parties and despite the lopsided vote of Dimock That's four Republicans against your friend. Tremendous divisions in both parties over, you know, should we have just centered the guy to get it on the record that what he did was appalling and unacceptable. Should we saddle the incoming Biden administration with a impeachment trial that will inevitably distract from Biden's own agenda and will fuel the radicalization of Trump's hard core supporters. You know, there are good arguments to be made in all directions about every possible means. It could have used against Trump. Whether it's the 25th amendment or impeachment or a censure were simply moving on. And you know, the relative silence of Joe Biden speaks volumes. He wants to get in there and take care of business, and all of this noise is not helping him. All right. That's a great question. You asked to. What do you want from this? I want violence to stop when violence stops. Then I'm willing to listen. Anybody to talk about moving forward on Do I have a lot of and I'm sure you do, too. We have friends that are Republicans, and we can talk to them about this. And they're, of course, aghast. That's what what has happened. I mean, they were Republicans for You know, it could be a you know pro life Republicans. Or they could be Republicans to just think you know that the government just not does not operate as well told. Fulfilling the needs of the people is private business, and you could make an argument either way, But this ain't that And I think you're you nailed it. I mean, we just have to figure a way moving forward. What do we want out of this? I just want him gone. I don't You know, I think you know what I think. I think we're gonna see revisit of 2 30, the fairness doctrine, and I don't have a problem with that. I mean, I don't think you'll be able to go on Facebook and say you know that I can't call the president a dope. But I don't think Facebook should be able to put up a Cuban on article about, you know, pedophile ring in a basement of Ah, DC Pizza place, you know, so there's gotta be something in between those two. I'm no Yeah, the best opportunity for any kind of real progress out of this. Any kind of consensus is very much along those lines of attacking the the with the tech companies have done to this country into our society to our ability to come together around any issue to our ability to believe in the same set of facts on and there's there's really room within both parties for some strong Moved to regulate the Internet to regulate the content on social media to force. These companies take responsibility for the sewage pipe that they've created, and I don't know that that will happen, but the opportunity is there and if it's missed, it would be a true tragedy. Well when I talked to your young female reporters We're going down there to interview people and they have to wear bulletproof s. That's all you need to know about. What's wrong, right? We have. There's something there's there's some poison in the water when we have to get it out. Mark. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate the time. I know you're insane out there. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thanks. Right again. Senior Editor of the Washington Post. Mark Fisher. Let's get your phone calls in here now. 80 88 10. We are we are. We are stuck. Key nailed it. What do you want? That's my question for today. Be a mark Fisher. What is it? You want? Want him convicted. I want it on the record. I want him prosecuted. Want his assets for forfeited. I want to see Donald Trump pay the price that you pay when you do damage to so many people, and you cause so much pain and suffering. I do. That's a signal calls. Go to Charles Man. Menlo Park, Charles. You're in K G over Chip Franklin. Thanks. Shit How you do it? I want to make a comment that I just have an idea that I would love you. To promote because you have far more weight. You got to be my Sir Lancelot. OK? Oh, you're It's not bad you like so I think your collage of stone Is pure genius. Okay, that that is what we need. Okay? And where I want your help is I kind of right. You know, I kind of see things of how you can present things so The way I would present and add it could be on TV radio YouTube How it first have Now, a few words from Donald J. Trump, our ex president..
"mark fisher mark" Discussed on KGO 810
"Franklin kgo 10. Oh, man, Ain't that the truth? Well, The revolution actually is being televised right now. To paraphrase I think that was the 60. Things of revolution will be televised. Well, you're watching it right and hearing it right now. I'm beginning ofthe really What's going to be solid for the next? Maybe nine hours, although there is a chance And I don't think it's that small chance that this thing could be over 90 minutes, turning right now senior editor of The Washington Post Mark Fisher Mark I've been like, I'm sure you have been going over the map and clicking the buttons and trying to figure the path there. Um, first of all, Hello. Are you hanging in there? You OK? You handling it all okay? Mark. I'm talking to voters and try and get a sense of what's going on up there. No, I bet you I I didn't hear here that we didn't have you up. How are you dealing with it personally, Because I've talked a lot of people that have been covering this guy for four years, and it's like I feel like I've just run a marathon in the last 300 yards uphill, which, by the way, the Marine Corps Marathon is exactly that, But you know, looking at this, and I think there's a there's fatigue. On. And I think that the voters who Who do come out today are are going to be the last the symbol of what's been just a long, long time to get to the state. But you're okay. You're doing alright? Yeah, Everything's good. Just been talking to voters all day and writing about them and giving getting a real sense that despite all of the mistrust and suspicion that the whole country has been suffering from for a long time They're still kind of the old fashioned sense that people have when they go out to the polls that they're doing this for a reason they have trust in the system. They really think that voting can make a difference on DH. They think political leadership matters. And so mean all of the division than polarization and mistrust that kind of an interesting message that we're seeing, perhaps a record turnout. Because people Yeah, they want to get their guy in, but they believe that voting is the wind makes things Frank. I've just been going over. You know the map state by state and putting these things and trying to figure out You know, if if all these polls are remotely accurate, there would have to be such some kind of bizarre collapse. I mean, I went back and looked and red. Ah actually read a book about the 2016 election recently. And now that stuff is applicable to where we are right now, Andi, I look Att New Mexico and I'm just trying to figure out so blindness got a huge lead there. So I'm looking at right now. I have Biden with 256. Votes if he carries Nevada, which he's lead leading Minnesota, which is leading in New Hampshire, which he's leading. That's a total of 20 electoral votes. So I haven't been to 56 without Pennsylvania without North Carolina without Georgia without Florida without Texas without Arizona. Without Iowa, just Iowa alone Iowa and will actually if he gets in North Carolina, and it looks I mean the numbers of their supporting him right now at a five point lead in the poll just three days ago. Um I'm just I'm looking at is a mu. No, I'm thinking that we could know in 90 minutes from now. Unlikely. I mean, obviously, if he takes Florida, Florida will be very early state to report you know, totally over if he takes Florida. Yeah, but if he doesn't take Florida, I think it's going to be well into the evening before we have any clear sense. And even then, may not happen. Uh, the Biden campaign seems to think they they think they'll win Pennsylvania, but they don't seem terribly confident of it, Uh, Florida or Pennsylvania. It's gonna be a slog, and it's going to take Sometime. It's going very tight, So you know, we both both the Biden and Trump campaign's seemed to think that Biden may prevail in Arizona, maybe North Carolina before absolute in Georgia. But that's not enough for him, knowing it ISS If he wants Wisconsin and Michigan and Georgia, it's over. I mean, any sport ahead. I mean, I know that I know that everybody is freaking out because we all remember 2016 right? But I mean the math. You know, you look at the number series way ahead in Colorado, Way ahead. New Mexico head in Nevada and of course, Washington, Oregon, California, New York and Vermont, New Hampshire and all the states, you know, like you go down that list and you know those small states they add up. And I'm looking at, you know, I mean, obviously he's going to win, you know, to the traditional red states, but I mean in the people in Texas, I think I think that the Democrats is that there are divided into two camps. There's people that are freaking out like my wife and all our friends who are a house, you know, in the back going to the TV on in the back yard and all you know, drinking margaritas and the same prayers like 10 different languages. But if you look at this and the work that the Democrats have done, it seems to me that they're really close. I could be close. I mean, I think it will be close. But I don't. I wouldn't venture a guess on which way it'll go. I think it really could go either way, And I think it's pretty clear at this point that Biden will win the popular vote and perhaps by a healthy margin for 5%, But but the electoral vote, I think is going Tio quite close. Unless unless Biden pulls out a on unexpected victory in a place like um, like Florida or Texas on Texas is not inconceivable. The The turnout in some of the border counties is off the charts and that you know, several. Those counties are among the most heavily hit by the Corona virus of any in the whole country..
"mark fisher mark" Discussed on KGO 810
"That this is far from over are from all over it is far from over is and I will repeat this again because this is you'll find this in any science book any any epidemiological study there are four ways to deal with the virus and they're all about control you're not you don't cure the virus viruses yeah it does what it does what we have to do we shelter when it's really bad the next step is then physical distancing which is a part of me can't shelter the third which is way off as a vaccine and then that comes with herd immunity we're talking about opening up but when we began to talk about this whole thing when we shut down the CDC and every other public health policy think group think tank I should say came out and said we have to have fourteen days of going down before we can open up they're still states are headed up but Florida Disentis wants to be president he's the governor he doesn't want trump to say bad things about him this guy has power to the entire Republican Party which is insane bass R. I'm just telling you this is science I don't know any other way around it but I optimistically we can we can change things when we get when we flatten it out you see here in California we're talking about the ability of maybe to go to the beach but you gotta walk around you and you got to maintain distance I mean but you know R. Kaplan had our best he bested earlier said let's find the economic machines the strongest ones for our economy and work with those first so instead of talking about freaking tattoo parlors what is the fascination with tattoo of him except talk about that let's talk about agriculture how do we get that back on how to get the the the processing of of of I don't know everything that that that I kia sells for everything that Walmart sells where is it with us of come from China right we we have to find an answer and all this but we don't want to get sicker and die and even greater numbers in the process joining right now is the a senior editor at The Washington Post mark Fisher mark I've been you notice that when your time's a Washington post you know call me crazy I might go to newspapers and I've been speaking of going through all the pieces I was just reason gelak Arkan backs PC's gonna be out with us tomorrow the health aspects of this and you know there's still so many questions all the way from you know that how long before your antibodies really show to run disappear how you know how important is that drops how you keep track of this well it's it's it's I mean if there are various ways to track it one is looking at the numbers and the numbers can be look good one day in the not so good the next then there's this the big soccer right here do you do you trust the numbers I mean do you trust this administration does he just said today trump I we had on the news there's no need for more testing he said that one out every interaction Z. specials an epidemiologist is exact opposite right but but you know as you will watch what they do not what they say and what and well what do you do is not terribly competent if there are certainly pockets within the federal government that are doing a good job with the CDC numbers seem to be reliable lot of scientists around the country say that they are they're obviously some cases that were missed early on and some cases such as we saw in New York state adding thousands of cases when they realize that some of the earlier cases hadn't been coded as Kobe deaths we see more of that kind of reconsideration of a lot of those people who died back in January and February but by and large groups looking for patterns of looking for trends is it getting better order fewer cases in those numbers seem to be quite trustworthy and worry you know as good as as scientists can put together at this stage which has its own life moving targets so one way of looking at this is the numbers in the way of looking at it is is there any kind of a political consensus that allows for the government to lead the way we looked at them to leave you can't say much good on the good side about that except that we do see a number of governors from both parties taking this quite seriously the question there is is that enough is you can you make policy at the state level when the virus doesn't respect speaks to the boundaries of ours drums across wherever anyone travels so that that is a lot of good news on that front but you then you look at the at the science with the emerging science around vaccines and treatments and their little glimmers of hope in some of the studies that are coming out in recent days but you know it's fetching keeps telling us this is the long haul the thing is we don't need to be in nearly as bad a situation as we're in the proof of that is today is the first night of the baseball season in South Korea and so was that matter well the fact is South Korea and the United States had their first coronavirus case on exactly the same date January twentieth they now have fourteen new cases today we have more than twenty four thousand new cases today so that gives you an idea of what we we could be and where we are not well the last time we spoke your your it you felt better because you've been reading some books about the on the Spanish flu and how we got through that here's a difference between nineteen twenty one and and two thousand twenty is we we are today a fractured society in every way that that can be good and bad you know I mean we all we are is different and and San Francisco as you could possibly be when you go to Charlotte North Carolina right I mean and and all and everything in between I trying just trying to get the truth out there without with you know everybody from Breitbart to fox and Hannity in the rest of those guys getting in the way it's difficult we have above it mean I really believe any other president in this moment we would be we would be so far ahead from where we are right now but we we don't know is what we got and we can speculate what would be like if you know Casey carabao bomber or Hillary or anybody else was in the office of Jeb bush anybody other than this guy I mean you can't member W. really acted proactively after sars he said holy crap and he you know he started instituted it with Congress all a lot of provisions to protect US tea party make sure days all they all disappeared in the last decade so now we find ourselves in the spot where you know we're just trying to tell people and corporations have to hear this too that we have to come in together the the billionaires in this in the society that we live in right now and these corporations I got this tax break from thirty five to twenty percent that's gonna go away today to mark right now and we got to see some of that money that we gave back in two thousand eight and I know there's ways to do it I was reading this in Barron's the other day about how that would work where are the you know right now we're just pulling money we're printing money with no no backing whatsoever and that's going to come back to get us we have to lean on these corporations to reach I mean is that too socialistic as up to what I mean I mean there has to wait for the economy we have to help these people because sending them out without understanding this virus is not the answer yes but I'm not seeing a whole lot of corporate leadership country so you can blame the president and certainly the heater there's a lot of the blame for what's happened here but this has been a collective failure in many ways you know just go back to that career comparison some of the American baseball players who are playing baseball in South Korea or writing back in and calling relatives and saying Hey you walk into a store here the shelves are completely full of hand sanitizer and toilet paper and all the other things that we can't seem to muster that plenty of masks for anybody who needs from plenty of tests for anybody who wants them and so the shortages that we're attributing to the just the enormity of this problem do not need to exist and so part of that is lack of national leadership the part of a lack of corporate results and corporate contributions to solving this problem at the same time you have major companies in this country that are making out like bandits from this virus Facebook Tristen L. something more than doubled their profits in this quarter that just ended yeah yeah sting so you know it it insurance companies obviously yeah nobody's filing any medical work auto claims so they're making a lot of money and you don't see these companies contributing in the way that they did in previous major American crises and that you could blame the president for some of that perhaps for not showing leadership but you have to blame other aspects of our country as well yeah I you know I mean for every time I start going through this and I feel optimistic I see a story like now where the chairman of the Arizona Republican Party to see the story she's encouraging people going to the stay at home protest to dress like health care workers right I mean you name is Kelli ward a former state senator primary care physician to eat tweeted this couple days ago Missy this is dated the twenty eighth so is do you yeah it was a couple days ago tweeted that that they should planning protests to reopen America everyone wear scrubs and masks the media doesn't care if you really are in health care or not it's the message that matters I think of these people you know and especially this this New York physician who committed suicide after just not been able to to deal with the enormity of loss that you have to deal with day to day and then I think of this and I lose my mind you know I I hope that room disappear it's going to lower this I mean I think if we can get this thing down tour like everybody wanted to be like it's a flu you know yeah but you know I mean it was a story today I do you see the story but it may be affecting children's hearts and it may have been in that off not deadly but it can be deadly it can be treated so I mean there's a there's a low and we'll have that story for you I promise it in about.
"mark fisher mark" Discussed on KGO 810
"Well good out here although it is it's these are strange times on so many different ways I mean whether you're watching the you know the grand princess doc and the you know if you live in Oakland you gotta be thinking to yourself well let me get this straight where you could put in a market area but you can put it here and what we'll talk about that a little while as well also trump meeting on Wednesday with Wall Street what will that entail and yeah I mean the thing is the real question here is is a really panic or if you're just a level of tired cynicism out there me what is it what is the overall feeling not just here in the bay area but I mean specifically for us here in the bay area and across the nation L. as this happens I mean I'm resigned to the fact I'm gonna get this thing I'm gonna be sick for a week and then I'll be alright I mean some people will die and that's horrible but people die every day I'm not sure where to start to show right join me right now is a senior writer to washing post mark Fisher mark obviously you guys are covering the hell out of this there is a you know of course I am a primary tomorrow they probably will decide who the democratic candidate is but and I guess there's a there's a backdrop of the corona virus for that what what is it like you know down there in DC and then in the newsroom and are you guys working from home is everybody there it is well known mostly still here in the newsroom although was the reporters who covered the C. pack conservative conference and the eight pack the American Israeli conference last week here in Washington have been told to stay home and work from home for the next week or two because there were people at those conferences who now were confirmed to have the virus just a little irony to that those in their mark in that in that they're probably safer than the people who don't know if they were people on the crackers are gonna continue doing what they do and interacting with people and that's what that's why we're seeing the spread that we're seeing all around the country because that most people get this element or either a symptomatic or think they might have a cold or flu and so they go around you know more or less as usual spreading the virus so that's going to continue happening that's why we're going to continue seeing this enormous increase in the number of cases from day to day and so will more and more we're seeing a lot of institutions here in Washington are shutting down or telling people to stay home kemana cancellations a big events but we haven't seen large employers tell everyone to close up shop quite yet but I I don't I don't doubt that that's coming interesting hi so do you get it I mean you have a sense that there is I'm from the political side of this the Republicans are especially those that are up for reelection in the fall but all of them are anxious about the message to trump is sending out and he just he tweeted today he took a shot at the Cuomo brothers you know and ends is talking about them propagating a hoax again he keeps using this word in this language and I mean I kind of think that you know if you were at C. pack your do this is not a hoax this is a real thing and but you know if you look back at the Republican rhetoric in those first weeks it was very much mimicking the president and saying this is nothing with what Limbaugh saying this is the same as the common cold all those kinds of a dungeon Donald Trump junior saying that this was nothing all of those kind of minimizing messages that the president was sending out Republicans were just following along you're not hearing that anymore now what you're hearing is that a lot of people want to see pack or self quarantining you're seeing state legislators in Florida and in Virginia and other places because saying that they're gonna stay home Ted Cruz puts himself in quarantine so people are taking this seriously and they are turning shocking leads to the experts the actual doctors and public health officials who know what this is and how to deal with that and so in a strange way we're seeing a restoration of trust and have confidence in expertise that we haven't seen in a few years in this country what's the latest on these kids I mean we we saw trump's and anybody need twenty get one we obviously know that's not true and he was misinformed and the people's faces around him work yeah I mean again the fact that nobody corrected him it is a scary that I wonder if in private people are correcting him too but what it what is the latest you've heard read written about these the the availabilities kits the general public making them as fast as we can they are now finally making them and distributing them but there aren't nearly enough and they're not going to be nearly enough and if the projections are correct about how quickly this will spread the need for the test will far outstrip the supply that says what we're hearing from more and more doctors is that they don't really need to test for their day to day practices they can tell from symptoms when someone should be in quarantine and and there's no harm in saying stay home for a couple of weeks so that's increasingly going to be the fall back position rather than have people come in and spread the virus by rushing to the emergency room they want people to stay home and deal with the symptoms for as long as they can because in most cases that will be sufficient Washington post senior editor Marc Fisher with us here on KGO have you heard anything about while the bell curve this and where we are on that Kerr if we have any idea no I don't think we do and and what you're hearing from the the folks have studied the hell coronaviruses moves the the it really depends on how effective governments are at getting people to isolate themselves and then for whole communities to be isolated as we're seeing now in Italy in Israel where they're basically shutting down to traffic from outside the country we need to see those kinds of things we're areas that have large outbreaks in this country are where people are asked to stay home how effective that will be whether that will be enforced on the streets that that seems like a stretch but all of that is dependent on people having trust in the government in in their statements being accurate and that's the greatest concern I'm hearing from the public health folks is that there's mixed messages coming out of Washington out of this administration and there's nothing that can undermine the most important factor here which is confidence that people have that the government is telling them the truth if you think back to aids were you to any of the previous viruses that are swept the country there was one person with his head of the CDC or another medical expert who would be out there on TV morning noon and night saying here's what we know what we don't know here's what we need you to do and people took that as official and reliable we don't have someone doing that right now yeah you know the crazy part is to say we all talk about sars immersed with this already has ten times more than ten times the number of cases of sars and four times the doubts and this is we know whatever pizza even close yet so I mean this is obviously like they said more deadly and while they didn't say than the beginning are they said it was just easier to be infected but you know what yeah it might not be as deadly it might be because we don't know how many people are affected and that's the frustrating thing Hey Emily is it fair to really criticize trump though for not having enough of these kids around I mean did nobody saw this coming right I mean maybe if we had that CDC group working with China we are known in November maybe maybe but would leave would be really be up to it to tell us I don't it's not entirely his fault I mean this really is a feeling that goes back years and a lot I spent today going back through some of the reports that have been written over the last ten to fifteen years from all kinds of experts meeting with the government to take this seriously knowing that a multinational worldwide pandemic involving a virus will happen they said here are the things you need to do you have a national stockpile of masks and respirators you need to have the whole apparatus to the to the to expand the number of available hospital rooms basically turning on a dime and of course none of that was done so that's not a cultural problem that's a democratic and Republican failure of the entire political system to adapt to the information the experts were giving them okay so I'm gonna be optimistic and and see two great things coming out of this one if if this isn't the pandemic and I don't think it took four doesn't seem like it is will be better and takes the huge step toward preparing for that if we can keep this in our memory although I remember you know the George Bush and Tom Daschle hugging after nine eleven and that didn't last very long but second thing would be if people actually can do their jobs well from home if they can do there if we see that we can keep production at a certain level that's called climate change thing right we keep people off the roads maybe this is a step towards utilizing some of this technology you know I'm I know that's a stretch in the middle of everything that's going down Wall Street melting down and then of course you know at the end of Connelly that's hurtling towards a recession I don't know how we avoid it at this point but do you see what I'm I guess this one here or there are good things that can come of this if you think about the lasting impact of nine eleven at the latest change the landscape of where we work and how we deal with each other it clearly these kinds of crises can have an enormous impact on people and on systems across the country and some of those may be good in the way that you suggest but I think the if the message is drawn from this that people should work from home that's going to have a devastating impact on the society as far as the ability of people to connect with each other we've already suffered an enormous hit since the advent of the internet especially with the rise of social media where local communities are suffering terribly and so many different ways because people don't connect with each other they don't see each other they don't see each other especially across political lines so anything that would further is that development I think would be a social bad things to happen but you're right that there are some good things that come out of it and certainly preparedness should be one you could have lunch with your wife or husband everyday there you go that one because that may not be good for people anyway I we obviously you know it yeah you and I talk about this earlier today before the show just the idea of where this is headed in and people's reaction let me ask you this question you asked me would you characterize from what you see in the national reaction now has guarded and not panic it really is not perfect and I think you know their little bits here and there we certainly see some panic buying in the way that the shelves have been cleared they do that when it snows too though that's you know that's right that's exactly right so that's a that's a kind of and there's actually a community bonding aspect to that I mean people who you see it at those drops looking at the big empty shelves are actually having a little bit of fun and enjoying each other in those situations even as the frustrated by what's on what's on the shelves but I'm not seeing you know we we're not hearing at all about a year I hate to law and order without seeing people you know running wildly through the streets I went back and looked at all the the the list of movies that have been built around pandemics and they all involve you know zombies in the streets and and you know complete loss of control and we're not seeing anything like that and there's no indication that we will so that that's a healthy sign on the last time we saw that was a democratic debate with the but do but and and in another good detective news we're seeing that there is this restoration of trust in experts and so some of the differences between you know is the Tennessee we've had in recent years to politicize everything immediately and assume that the other guys set of facts are completely wrong well that's that's been stripped away as people are getting serious about this virus and wanting a good clear trustworthy information well and that's what you guys put out again the Washington post's senior editor Marc Fisher mark again thank you so much in such a big project but thank you yes I thought so that's your guys turn and we just ask you this question how would you.
Senate Intel agrees with assessment that Russia meddled to help Trump
"The day before the fourth of july and i know a lot of you guys are feeling that spirit as you head out of town thank you for those that stayed in town simply hear my voice remarkable breaking news let's get right to it the senate intelligence committee has unequivocally upheld the conclusion of the intelligence community that russia developed a clear preference for trump and the two thousand sixteen election and sought to help him win the white house and this is in direct contradiction to nunez and the house intelligence committee and this assessment which is announced in an unclassified summary released today actually that's why it's breaking news represents a direct repudiation of the house so what does all that mean let's ask the president mr president what does it all mean entire thing has been a witch hunt and there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign but i can always speak for myself and the russians zero no collusion no obstruction most people know there were no russians in our campaign there never were have you seen any rushes in west virginia or or pennsylvania joining right now a senior editor at the washington post and also the author of trump revealed mark fisher mark what does all this mean well i think it means a lot of republicans in congress and our country are scared and they're scared of two things that some of them in two different directions they're scared of donald trump because they know that he controls the destiny of their party the direction of their party and so they don't wanna step kim far away from him on the other hand they're also scared by their own precarious political position and by the fact of russian meddling they know that russian meddling took place in two thousand sixteen they know that it's happening this year all of.