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Honey and the Good Food Awards with Sarah Weiner and Mark Carlson (S3, E14)
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I'll tell you I think you're gonNA like this, talking to the people who are running the awards and The Lady who runs it Sarah, and the guy who runs the honey part of it because they have a honey section in there where they look at liquid honey and comb honey and creamed honey and and I'm waiting to hear I've been associated with them for several years. You know. On the BOSSIE. Developing policies for. How foods are made every every kind of food whether it's cakes or whatever has policies as sister is obtaining the Rian sustainable is it organic or is it and they're going to talk about that a little bit today? Well. That'd be a lot of fun. I know this is this is historically the competition time of year I think a lot of county fairs have been shut down and Steve Fares been shut down because of covid. So this be fun to hear about a different way of competing and people can possibly submit their honey. Yeah. From all over the US So yeah, there's a lot more detail here and one of the reasons I wanted to talk to these folks because I'm not clear on all the details and this will help them get the word out. Or good. Well, before we get to that interview, let's do WanNa mention the fourth international be in Hive Monitoring Conference. Coming up here in October with our friend of the podcast Dr Jerry Berman Shank in the University of Montana and they're going to do this virtually Yeah this year it's virtually it's the first first time they're doing it and because. Our friend Dacoven is, is here they're going to be doing on I believe they're chosen zoom and they have been evaluating. All these different types of high monitoring solutions that are out there and have been giving the the the makers of those, the the ability to display their solutions and given them during this conference a chance to talk about it. So they're talking about APPS and maps and standalone programs, scales and sensors for be driven. D Be Management Bee Hive centric sensor devices are rfid solutions for research infrared, research and applications hive monitoring asset security, and theft protection, which is big thing especially during the pollination season chemical and biological monitoring a bee colonies and even complementary technologies to the leverage be and high of monitoring networking tracking. So it's it's everything techy about be sensing. I wonder if he's got that dictionary figured out yet when bees talk to each other. That would be good. Maybe, he'll I'm sure he'll give be given an update on the be smart APP and when was that again it's going to be an October October and we will put the the link to the conference in the show notes and that'll have the exact date and additional detail. Push to. Let's get to interview with the good food. Awards folks, and listen to what they had to say. Hey I want to introduce Mark Carlson and Sarah Weiner from good food awards. Welcome to Beekeeping Day podcast. Thank you. It's good to see these guys Jeffey. I've been working with this group. The last couple of years on some of the policies that they've established but I've never had a chance to meet any of them in person. So this is a good opportunity for me to fantastic as you. It's get to see your face. Case got facial the name. Well Sir. I've got a background in in your organization but I know to Jeff dozen dominant guests that a lot of people listening today don't rain you get. Where did you start? Grown where you know that. Absolutely, for the opportunity to share about what we're doing the good food foundation is a California based nonprofit. And we started ten years ago, we did a couple of different things but for most well-known for the good food awards. Among which is coming up on its eleventh year and the idea there is, how can we help consumers to find food? That's truly gun and they are we mean it tastes delicious. They're gonNA love it. But also that all the values behind it, a business practices of what you know the beekeeper or the coffee roaster or the pikler is doing is making their communities and. Own. World, better better place through the way they're doing things. So the idea kind of was a confluence of to two things that happened about eleven years ago. One I had the privilege to work with some. Amazing. Food producers both beekeepers cheesemaker as others on a big project and afterwards they said, they said, you know we never work with each other. You know the cheaper top into the beekeepers, chocolate makers talking to the chocolate makers and the roasters, the roasters, and how refreshing it was to work on a project where they got to see you know other industries facing similar challenges and maybe approaching them in different ways and kind of learning from each other. So I had that in the back of my mind when I was. In London for a bit and I walked into this beautiful little grocery store that little specialty shop end I saw a jar on the shelf. I think it was jam. That had a little silver sticker that said great taste award winner in the owner of that shop. Saw Me. And he said, you know if if a product has that sticker on, it just flies off the show doesn't matter what it is flies off the show and I thought Oh true like people do love to know what's the best of the best and there's so much out there. And it can be overwhelming even when you are consumer ready in wanting to buy great stuff and buy things with your values. So we thought maybe could use that power, but put it towards truly good. The truly good stuff. and. That's when kind of the the idea for the good food awards was born. NAP, first year you know the first thing we did was we we know that I am no honey expert you will learn that over the course of this hour. Also. Not a beer expert or a chocolate expert of or an expert in any of the categories we started win but. I knew people who work rape people. I. Love working with who I really admired So the first thing we did was called on them and say like could this help your industry and if so would you want to help shape it because we have no idea what the right criteria would be that you know signals that beekeepers doing things in a really wonderful way for the bees that signals beekeepers doing things in a good way for their community that you know as even technically good from a health perspective. So so this is more this is not only. Tastes good food, but it's it's the whole sustainability, the practice, the the whole preparation. Good food. In the big picture. And you know we lead with taste like to the public, you can find out and learn and understand that we're about sustainability. But our top line message is like you buy a product with a good food award steel on you're gonNA. Love it. Because that's really easy to sell. Like One of the things that when I first got Organiz with you one of the people that I was working with his do good for good food. And that kind of sums it all up. When you look on your webpage what's your webpage? Again it's good food SDN. Orgy when I was looking at your. Webpage and I was looking at honey I was looking at chocolate or any of these other good and I need to I suppose. But the the category of the. Qualifications I. Guess Are you not only have to not only have to produce good honey but you have teach people in the world how that came to be you share your Mark You. You're the honey Persson here there. Expand on that a little bit on on on their qualifications to be in the honey contest. Thanks can I had to look up to see it was six years ago. So Sarah, you've been doing it for eleven then six years ago we started the honey category and I can agree that are you were quick to ask for feedback from myself but also other industry people in San Francisco and people around the bay area for their thoughts and it became a real fascinating iterative process on developing these standards than. I think it was it was fun and it was interesting to see the feedback that we got right from the beginning, and so we did develop some initial criteria in that first year two, thousand fourteen, and then we continued to develop upon it and Cam. You might have come in a year or two after that with some of your feedback on those standards. But even those initial, that initial round of standards I. Think those teams are still quite they resonate in some of the standards that we have today. Pretty straightforward. Probably probably from for many beekeepers where you have your bees may be the biggest issue and it's difficult to be anymore anywhere. It's difficult to be perfect just because agriculture is everywhere. So that's one of the ones that we've looked at fairly carefully. It'd be nice if you could grow organic honey everywhere but that's just simply not the case anymore. So because be traveled so far, and if you unless you're almost on the moon, your neck, be somewhere close to agriculture. But what are the categories of honey that I can enter in your contest? I pulled up our honey page to make sure I get. But we've divided it into four subcategories. One is liquid naturally crystallized on creamed combs infused are the four different ways we talk about it. Our infused on the ads quite a bit of complexity tasting when you're going through the other, even the comb honey which require some knowledge of how to. Out Eat honey when it's still in the calm but The infused really does add a lot more diversity just like some of the other categories that Sarah has the good food awards. The pantry category has such a wide array of flavors that when you start mixing honey with other flavors, which on he goes with a lot of other flavors really. Well, it can be quite a new a new challenge for judges, but also real fun one. So you have those are five five different categories the five. Categories what else are they judged on a fort was that four? For Okay sorry So four different categories. What else are they judge done taste shirt I can respond to that please. we've gone through some different iterations of tasting criteria as well, but we've settled on one that I think is a good mix of what we've learned from other folks and. Mostly we do in evaluation. In addition to the case, we might quickly evaluate the quality of the honey and the preservation of the container, and so how well the honey looks before we even open it and you can get a sense of viscosity can get a sense of crystallization before you're ever inside of the jar and once you do open that jar usually were doing it in a small tasting cup will warm up that honey and get as much of a a aromatic. It is much of the volatile release with just as gently warming usually in our hand just warming as small honey. Tasting Cup in our hand will release a few more of those aromatics. So smell is also a big quality of the flavor of honey and when you're actually tasting, I find that all roll the honey kind of past the tip of my tongue, which detects sweetness to some of the sours and bidders salt in the back of my tongue, and then I've learned over time to to be inhaling through my nose in order to get even more of those aromatic smells in order to comprehensively kind of described the flavor and so judges are asked a very simple question. Is the honey good for them but in addition to that, they can be writing notes on some of these other subtle characters that I think really highlight some of the word ward winning honeys. Kind I. think absolutely. We have mark your Kasese actually there onsite overseeing all the judges in See all the comments in how it works. I am like as a general philosophical principle for across the categories for the good food awards we. Kind of judge in two steps. So we have in the morning a really. I'd say it's like a group process where people are sharing and talking which I think is really important. They're broken down into groups of three or four judges on depending on the category they have a few rounds to go through, but the first round might have let's say eight different honeys that they're looking at and talking about together and we. Make sure that within this group, there is at least one really deep expert in honey and beekeeping. So it might be like a master beekeeper as part of that group, and then we try to have someone there that's more of a generalist from culinary perspective it could be the pastry chef at the San Francisco cooking school was one of our judges last year. And then we might have kind of other folks who are involved in food like a food writer, for example. Be Part of the group. So we want him to be like anchored in really technical knowledge understanding of flavors specific to honey but also have these other perspectives because at the end of the day, what we're trying to find is honey that the consumer is GonNa love which might not be the exact same honey that just know Honey experts would like be so excited about or maybe a little bit broader than just that that those flavor profiles. So we do that collaborative way in the morning, those groups need to decide together which honeys to move forward and which to eliminate. They don't even put down you know scores in the morning they move forward the top from eat the top few from each light. Then in the afternoon, it's more private process. So you really are getting in it's more judges tasting. Those wants Denton moved through to the top. And they're tasting silently they're giving a number. You know overall from what they learned, how to they scored this honey. Does it. Does beekeeper submit. One sample of honey and most beekeepers many beekeepers will be familiar with their county fairs where submit the Queen Line Jar or the three Queen Line Jars and make sure the lids just perfect and everything else. That technical of a presentation standpoint. Or do you just want submission and then you're going how's that work? are able to submit a three different honeys. From their line and historically, they've submitted to jars on the judges don't the our our team led by mark kind of the organizers does she do see the jars but they're moved into these smaller of blind sort of tasting cups for all the judges so the judges don't actually Get to see who it is or jars there Yet during the. Cove we are moving things shaking things up a little bit because we are doing a socially distance tasting. I'm rather than all coming together in the same room we're going to be dividing all the samples up into boxes that the judges will come and pick up ahead of time and tastes from their own over soon with their group. So the format of submission will be slightly different. It will be smaller jars up you know two or four ounces asking that they send for those. So we'll be easy to divide up amongst the judges. Got A quick question here on. The samples that are submitted if I were to enter if I were going to enter a Honey contests at my county fair. The judges are going to look at moisture content. They're going to put it in a machine that looks for dust and dirt They're gonNA. Do you guys do that. I I can handle that one you write chem. It's pretty common that we do see quite often and we've considered it a few times. It's. It isn't currently currently part of the evaluation criteria, but we understand the value of it and to define honey honey really is that eighteen percent moisture and I guess it's a refracted Ometer as you said about the device that would be used to evaluate the moisture content. We would know pretty quickly to if there was a honey with extra moisture, sometimes, we would see some of those other defects in addition. One of the things that I saw in the. Entry guidelines was that I. If I'm going to submit an entry. I can't stream it to death there has to be some pollen it. Can there be too much pollen it. Another really interesting question there there has been I think a lot of the guidelines that the good food awards uses there is quite a bit of overlap as you said with county fairs and and this idea of ultra filtration or filtering using a finer finer mesh size for your filter you'll get you'll remove a lot of that pollen and part of the criteria is that good food awards expects it it's submissions will not be ultra filtered. They will not have gone through that process and can there be too much fallen I I happen to be on a pollen. Recreation I'm really enjoying thinking more about pollen and honey these days. So I guess my answer to that question. That answers my question. That's good to know that there can't be too much pollen I. think it adds adds to the it adds to the experience of honey to look at it and see it in there and occasionally depending on the pollens alter the taste. No kidding. I haven't. I haven't gotten to that I have tasted be pollen I don't know if Sarah you've ever tried this before Jeff I. Suppose you are beekeeper you've tried your bee pollen before it's quite something. There are residents in San Francisco that do garnish salads with bee pollen. I. Don't know if I can quite understand it yet. It's it's astringent a very unique flavor to eat raw pollen, and so it's minor contribution to honey flavors is nice that it's subtle if you eat it straight, you don't forget it. And one of the things when you do that. You take a teaspoon of pollen out of pollen trap. For instance, Make sure you're not allergic pollens that are in there because suddenly you've got a teaspoon full of it instead of just a little breath full and and. Life can get real exciting real fast. Got An allergy on there. I've been thinking more of pollen also, how it relates to each pollen grain can be if you have the right equipment, you can determine where the plant of origin was, and so I've been thinking more of how pollen extraction from honey can lead to a process in although it's not simple. You can identify some of your nectar sources because when bees are visiting a flower even if they're visiting for nectar, they're still in contact with that pollen and they're. Bringing it back to the hive and and so you often will get samples of pollen. You can isolate honey sample, and if that can lead to a story about what particular nectar sources were used to make that honey I'm finding that to be particularly interesting criteria especially with the good food awards because a lot of times we're getting single source honey honey from a place that only has a few number of nectar sources and as a result like this. there are some in Georgia that come from this hour would tree in that has a very unique character if you're able to isolate that one nectar source and so how pollen plays into that story I think is an interesting one and I hope to see more of that in the future. When I was with become magazine, we did some work. With Texas and on that exact subject and identifying the pollen honey, and then you get more than one kind of pollen and what what is the percentage of this pollen compared to the percentage of that pollen. So you can tell the mix and that leads me to my next question. If I extract my honey this year, it's going to contain honey from twenty different plants. I extracted all once it's the most wonderful tasting honey you have ever tasted believe me. But there is no way I can reproduce honey next year the blends will be different. The timing will be different. So if ice in honey to you and it is as I said, the best tasting honey in the world ever made. I couldn't put him those stickers on my jar because that's the only jar of that honey. There is right. How how do you do with that? Can I almost I could redirect it right back to you. I'd say your experience with how folks have tried to label single source honey. We do get that Heidel. Sorry we do get a title. Win. Good. Food awards receives honey. It can be labeled as a singled source and so how we fact checked that isn't necessarily part of our criteria now but I I'm excited or I'm interested in how that could be going forward. As you said, a pie chart of all the different nectars, it can be a lot of work and as you said, it can still like a blend of wines of grapes you might find that the combination is really the winning quality for a particular honey not just the single source is the most prominent prominent labor in it. A lot of beekeepers will unfortunately call it wildflower, which tells which tells the person who purchases it or tastes it absolutely nothing the. The beekeepers that are a little more refined will go spring flower summer, flower autumn gold something like that, or they'll give it a name that how it's used. It's great for tea or barbecue sauce or or like that but I can see where I can see where a A wildflower, a mixed blend of honey. would be difficult to reproduce and. So, do you favor single source honeys? Question you know. Our goal is really to direct people to great honey whatever it is in I. Never really thought about how much variation there might even be from one jar to another. and. We haven't accounted for that in the good food awards mean we do require that it? Be You know the same season so like The honeys entered. This year, the ones that will be injured there would be sent in September and then there would be awarded in January. So presumably, consumers could buy honey from that same season from that same sort of harvest, and that's the one that would have the good food awards seal on it but. I think it's personally like fascinating to have single origin honeys especially for consumers who know less about flavor profiles of unease because it's sort of an educational experience. But in terms of the judging process, we don't favor single origin versus a seasonal wildflower versus you know creamed or honeycomb abused, and we know different consumers are looking for different things and so. Being able to have a diversity of winners. Helps US help. 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Really Interesting Question Good Food Award does pride itself on having both expert and non expert judges and NON expert judges have to hesitate when they're gonNA try comb honey for the first time in fact almost. Showing them how to eat it is required if you haven't eaten comb honey honey in the comb before you chew on it like Bubblegum and you have to acknowledge the wax is in there and I I agree there's a lot of additional. textures and subtleties about wax that are pretty unexpected for first time tasters. So how judges get to evaluate that comb honey? I think those have done it before have an advantage those that are trying it for the first time they'll figure it out in their mouth, but hopefully, also prioritize on a lot of the flavors as much as. The distractions attacks can be as you're you're actually tasting ninety. And then you get the question, what do you mean I have to swallow it I sometimes find I'll do this myself even it's all just have a little pile of wax and somehow they'll get into a jar. I'll eventually melt them all down I. Keep my like most beekeepers. We keep a jar wack somewhere in our house and sometimes they get thrown in other times they get hung out the window or something. One the other things you mentioned was naturally. Naturally creamed honey naturally crystallized honey. So the technical name for it or the way we listened on the website is liquid and naturally crystallized. So, if I'M GONNA okay. Naturally crystallized that means that I just put a jar shelf and I walk away for a month and come back and it's crystallized. Course crystals and the fine crystals in the mix you don't want. You don't want to starter in there, and so you get a real smooth. I I think that Kim with some of the honey from the southwest, and we almost always get a submission from Hawaii with a honey a quick crystallizes. So quickly, almost out of the comb, it's you might not only have a month of it outside of the home before it's starting to see its own crystals and maybe that's off based on the container and the preservation of it. I, I'm pretty. I'm interested in how different crystals can be formed with the particular storage conditions. Some of them are going to be very fine and some of them are GonNa be very large and Chunky and if you've got one. Very, large and Chunky to the point of chewing it And so solid getting a spoon in is can be a challenge does that enter enter into the quality of the of the? Entry. I can speak to that I'd say that judges of course are going to be. Experiencing the honey when they put it in the mouth in their mouth, and that is related to viscosity that is related to the texture and the size of the crystal is going to be inherent as they're as looking for flavors and whether or not. That is a detraction or a distraction from the actual flavors I think that's that's part of the responsibility of the judges to to hopefully incorporate it but I would almost always encouraged judges to not be to dissuade by. As you said, a larger crystal might not necessarily mean a bad flavor. It just happens to be as we've mentioned this semi-arid southwest has. Qualities about the honey that it does crystallize and same with this money from Hawaii that almost every time we see it it it does have crystals in it. Sometimes Nice. Fine. Small crystals as you're describing than are nearly as distracting as something that you're hunching on like like salt crystals. I've had those. You've mentioned the desert southwest and you've mentioned Hawaii. Can you give me a an idea of the scope the number of states you get entries from the number of entries that you get. I the Organization for six years now, and I think that's one of my favorite parts of this of this of this operation is deceived the diversity to see honey from different corners of around the United States and. acknowledged the private each beekeeper has in that region for what they're producing and not only that but the intimate relationship that they might have with with the bloom that's happening at that time, and so their attention to that detail is so is as diverse as the United States can offer you get you get entries from every state most states across the board we get entries from all fifty states every year. But not necessarily all nothing category. one thing that I really like about having looked at who the hunting winners were before this call for the last few years all the different kinds of honey's that we've talked about like. Naturally crystallized honeycomb on ESPN from really diverse places are all represented in the winters so even though it might take some. Marcus doing a good job is what I'd say of making sure people are keeping an open mind including those who aren't used to comb honey or who aren't used to Some of the different flavors are different textures. Is it pretty much in every year we have one or two honeys that are winning. One or two would views Chinese. We have creamed honeys. We have one of my favorites that stood out because it was the first time I tasted honey from there was a honey from Guang since its US territory was allowed to enter it one this past year and that was Kinda neat wave almost always have winning honey from Hawaii and. Georgia Massachusetts and California and Civic North West this past year, it sounds like you have. More than one winner from each category you may have. You. Don't just have one liquid winner one comb winner one crystallize winner in one infused winter. Yes, thank you for bringing that up. This may be very different from other honey competitions but. Have organized the awards in the honey category, as well as in all the other categories to give out a fifteen winners each year and we aim to have about twenty five finalists who are also publicly recognized, and while we do have these four categories, you know the creams, the honeycomb, the winners can be from any different category. They're all of judged against each other as one group, but the. Really. Interesting thing is that we only give three winners her region of the country. 'cause we really feel that it's important in the goal of good food awards is to highlight what's happening all around the country in flavors all around the country So the winners will end up being the top three scoring honeys from the West, the top three scoring honeys from the south, the top three scoring honeys from the Midwest. And so forth. and. That's regardless of category correct. Correct. We require that people note their category when they enter because it's really helpful for mark and his team's work in organizing the tasting or. it's we want it to be best for the Palate but. but it doesn't factor in to. The winners, the distribution of winners is done by geography and not by type one of the regions that you you you segregating to make it. More or less simple. We organized the country into five regions that we call north south, east, west, and central The actual back of that looks like is on our website Because we've divided each. One of those. Verses. That makes it more interesting. I think you're not. You're not. It's just as an one one is the best of your I. Think you mentioned earlier sour would and That might win every year. I think. A good thing it I'm glad that I'm not competing against sour would honey or that honey that you were talking about from Hawaii because I'm I'm you know Midwest? What mid West and while I'm probably mid West and Central. Central Yeah Okay. All right, and we do get a nice. We do get a nice diversity of entries from each region, and so you might think that if only a couple of entries come from one area, but it turns out that we get a fair distribution of different. Good representation from all around the country as well. Not just a few single isolated examples. Hugely, we get a nice set from each from each region. We hope we do this year as well. Encouraging our next year when we get him again. Yes, we've we've. Missed the window up entering this year as as we're talking today closes in a in just a few days. So I'm hoping that people listening to this or getting ready for next year. Now they're gonNA know a lot more and and know what to shoot for an and be able to do a better job and hopefully next year you'll get four hundred entries instead of. Instead of the the number that you got this year but. So when when do you have your contest? When is when are things judged? July is the month for entry. So from the beginning of the month through the end of the month, people can fill out. It's about a ten minute entry form that really explains all the specific criteria that we spoke about earlier in the show, as well as giving a little bit more information on what it'll be submitting. Then in September, you'd get an email if you've entered asking you to ship your samples and giving you all information to be able to do that. In time. Than in November, the finalists are announced publicly and historically that's the biggest day of web traffic to our website. Even bigger than the winter's Day, you know people really pay attention to the to the finalists. and. In January is when the winners are announced in, there is a big ceremony usually alice waters is one of the honorary hosts and other Wonderful people from the food world in a sustainable food speak as well as some of the winners and get a medal that shaped like a honeypot. Fear honey winter. So it's it's good times. Now it also sings it people do to get involved, but it's not good. Food Award season ends we do have ongoing something called the Good Food Gill which is kind of membership for amazing crafters, honey both beekeepers and cheesemakers, and everything else who want to be part of it and you can find out about that as well on the good food, foundation website and guilt numbers. No matter when you. Join the guilt you get a free entry into the good food awards for the fashion yeah. So all when all of this is done then you have an awards ceremony and when is that? that. Historically takes place the same weekend as the fancy food show in San Francisco So we take advantage of the fact that thousands of great buyers will be in town. For. The fancy food show on they get more out of their trip by being able to be part of the awards ceremony and the good food mercantile, which is a small trade show. He do only for producers that meet the same criteria around sustainability around quality so It's usually the second or third weekend in January. And we attend to announce that around the summer. I was going to try and make it when year and got interrupted but it would be it would be I imagine that's an incredible event. Mark Have you enjoyed it? I enjoyed the speakers. I always find venue to be spectacular and I always enjoy getting snacks in flavours that I get to try when I walk in the door. So anyone who could attend, you won't forget it. You'll enjoy it a lot that was going to be my next question. Do I get to taste to winners? You Bet. But is best features of the good food awards. Weekend is that after the spare Amani, there's a huge party and historically, all the winners are invited to send some of their winning product and we serve it both as a buffet with amazing cheeses paired with honeys and jams nearby and shark, Otari, and pickles. In the also have a we've had VIRA markets amazing team kind of up to cater wonderful little bites. Monday incorporate some things. That don't show as well. Just on a style last year we had pastry chefs from all around the city since it was our tenth year make ten different case using good food award winning chocolates and huntings even some like oils. So you will definitely get to taste things. Have to rethink this once I get to taste the winters I didn't I wasn't aware of that. Okay. Well, what have we missed about the good food awards? One thing that is kind of interesting this year as we are in a socially distance. Is that we are talking about doing an online good food awards marketplace so that when the winners are announced in, January, it would not only people who are in San Francisco that have the chance to go connect with the winners and tastes their foods but people across the country could by winning products to stay tuned for that more. What have we missed on honey I? We did go through a couple of the standards in the one that I have liked to return to and highlight is so in addition to animal husbandry, which I think is important and and with regard to the controlling pests, chemical interventions, I think that those. Are All pretty standard for what other organizations would be promoting for the health of the good health of bees but I also was really glad to see how the aspect of community involvement was part of the Good Food Award Program and and that makes the most sense for me here in this area because it, it's my community here. So I, like to think that there is engagement there is a response. There is a requirement that good food award submissions those that are submitting good food awards. Samples are are involving, engaging their community and I think that that's a real valuable aspect and how we is beekeepers are doing that to whatever extent. It's an interesting way that not only is, are we spreading around to our neighbors, but we're also talking to folks about good practices and sharing in these ideas. So as much as the community can be involved in the production of something as simple as a jar of ice are celebrate that and I'm glad to see that the good food awards two. Interesting concept. Yes. was. When I was reading the your qualifications that stuck out I think you can't just be a hermit. To. So. It's a good thing. Is that with every classification of food that you have, you have to have that community? That's a great question. We've developed the criteria to be specific per category in some of them have greater engagement requirements around community beer comes to mind sense to be a really philanthropic community in one of the arguments is that people are contributing to political causes and getting engaged that way in other categories don't have that yet but. We're really beginning to focus a lot more this year on is it look like to be a socially responsible company not just environmentally responsible and talking about how we can build out the criteria around social responsibility much more deeply every category right now has really solid, very long thought out longest gus criteria around the environment. Then we realized it's time to put that same level of into what social responsibility looks like An. So we will be reviewing and debut in new criteria in that area and be honey can be one of our examples for other categories around. Some ways than that manifests. Sure has been a attribute. It's been a strong aspect of the program to have different folks come through and provide their input as well it certainly. I'd say that the criteria for our our group as well as the other different categories and good food awards, they all have probably gone through an iterative process, develop those standards and it's something to be said that it is a community that's developing them, and there is a there is feedback. There is engagement and I think that that does make strong just like the scientific review process if you have your peers involved. Fish shows that there's there's some communication and collaboration I really appreciate that mark and I feel like a also Wanna, share that like they're not perfect our criteria now they never have been and we always view it as an evolving process and things that beekeeper bring up each year we note them down and there's a moment the next year when we get together with mark and his team and we look over what came up last year what challenges did beekeepers have a meeting some of our criteria and what could points did they bring up like maybe in a certain region of the country wasn't feasible or maybe they didn't have access or maybe. Any number of reasons why criteria might not fit in some circumstances that we might not have thought of, and we talk about that and we try to make it a little bit better every year. and. So we really really are grateful for those beekeepers do reach out and share what they think about criteria and the on the ground realities for them. Cool well, do you have other categories such as four Mead or beer. Sarah good mentioned there is a beer category and I i. think that's a real fun group and it's it. Sure is different tasting experience necessarily than than the honey category but I I would. I would be really excited I sure enjoy meeting and there is a lot of production in California going on right now and I think. The trend is going up I think more folks are getting into it into it as time goes on and. A, really interesting question about whether or not. There would be a need category, but I sure would enjoy. Yeah. I was curious whether that would fall under like the beer and wine. Group or would that come in with the honey group and I said that historically you know as you can tell not even though he has seventeen categories, it doesn't cover all the amazing food being produced right now on all the creativity and traditional things like need being produced In each year we we aim to launch a new category or expand you know the subcategories of the category already have and need has come up several times I. Think it will be fun to see about how to do that We always wanted when we do expand to it in a really thoughtful way where the quality of judging can be just as high as always in. So we're mindful about. Taking on what we can really do well and growing at a pace like that. But sounds like it'd be ready to. Class earlier this year now, maybe last year with the University of California Davis, they have a AH pollination center and obviously a proud viticulture program as well, and so when you put agriculture viticulture together, you get some really excellent and well informed mead makers, and so the California's got some pride in its need and I'd say that I'm sure there are other parts of the country that could probably enjoy a competition say they liked it they'd like to put their me the balance and so how funny is welcoming it? Imagine you'd have much trouble finding judges I sign up your website will be in the show notes. So anybody our listeners want to get any additional information. Check, out the website and the show notes, and you can find out all about the good foods awards and the submission process although it sounds like we'll have missed the deadline for this year. I think that it's something that people can put on calendars and get ready for next year to. Keep up to date while Jeff I'm sure I'm sure that they can If we remind him, they'll put together a postcard for one of our shows. Next year. Great idea announces in times of great idea. Yes. So we do have the audio postcards. So next next spring, we can get you on and just do a quick announcement about the upcoming Awards and competition, and we'll make sure you get out there on a timely basis for our listeners that'd be, and then you can tell us who the winners were this year. Thank you. Anything else. Good for me I really had fun. It was a good experience talk about honey. Happy to do it anytime. You and me both Sarah, thank you very much mark. Thank you very much. I. I will watch for the results of your contest and I. Hope You do it Video this. January like an stay here once. Freaky so much for the. Great. Thanks. Thanks. Mark. Take care. told you it'd be a good discussion, Jeff I. I learned some things and and well, they're going into their eleven years. So they've been added a while and they they're getting it figured out I gotta believe it's tough finding judges for any and all of these things and then they take judges who don't know. Who Don't know about some of these foods and make them taste new foods. That's. The one thing I like about that is that. The. Judges go in with any preconceived notions. Is this good food? And that's you know. Either is or it isn't and and I think you get more balanced Get. A more balanced. Outcome from that. So I like that part. And, of course, people who've never eaten comb honey before having to choose waxing, you want me to swallow it. S is that safe. I thought that was probably pretty good. and. The fact that they're looking at using honey to make other foods, mead and beer and some of those things down the road and somebody mentioned. that. They probably won't have any trouble finding judges I raise my hand for that. I'm surprised I thought that was. Interesting reply and I I would think that'd be very popular going forward to meet meet competition or even beers made with honey with a So that would be a good good direction. I would think why I wonder. Do you know I, I'm going to have to go look I got a copy the honey Sean London. They're going to try and do that virtually this year, which ought to be up real challenge. They have mead in the honey show in London but I don't know if they have beer I'm going to have to go looking at the at the rules and see how they do it I know how they do me but So we'll find out. A lot of fun. Well. That about wraps it up for this podcast. Before we go I want to encourage our listeners to rate his five stars in Apple podcast wherever you download or stream the show your vote helps other beekeepers finds quicker even better right review and let us know what you like as always. We think be culture magazine for American beekeeping continued sponsorship of beekeeping. Day. 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"Yes. Final. Bang. Those bangs still bang. X backers. Why factors and the mystery of Drake? Also. Forty nine years of making that way. And it was. Yes. We'll get to that second. Welcome. Terrific, Paul span, no expense that was seven AM this morning. Hold on your butts. We got the picks quote unquote experts. Experts were so preoccupied with whether they could they didn't stop think they should there's anything postseason taught us. It's that qui- finds a way, Bob chaos theory here. Start big picture for the warriors to win. They need blank to happen for the raptors to pull this off. They need blank dabbing. Clear, the warriors need to keep playing the same way that they're playing now in this new non Durant kind of office, they've got which is the old offense pre Durant. And they need that I think the guy that's got to keep doing his job on offense as Draymond green. I mean we know he's going to play defense, but we do know that he they have he can be a facilitator, and he triple double waiting to happen every given night but they need him to to play at his game. The other side, they may do this Durant as much defensively at times, because it is hold quite Leonard thing. He would have been the guiding them and that we guard. I think there's a secret weapon lurking in the shadows. No one's talking about. And that is Ron Adams, whose what Adams you're saying well Adams is the septuagenarian offense coordinator defensive coordinator. If you will, of the Golden State Warriors one of the most respected defensive coaches in the league, the equivalent of NFL defensive coordinator, and I think he's going to be asked to figure out a way to neutralize. So your x factor is Ron Adams, who doesn't even step on the court. I like the way you think they're sarahspain for Golden State to win. And for Toronto win. For Golden State the need to be patient against an exceptional defense in the raptors, they need to keep working through their cuts their screens and wait for open shots. And they can't have silly, casual giveaways. Like they often do when they try to get to thirty. This is a very good defense that will take advantage on the side of the raptors, they need to control the pace the way they did against the bucks as soon as they forced the bucks into a half court. They are so long in there, so able to recover that allows them to double it allows them to drop in. They will be able to hold Steph curry, and the rest of them if they are able to prevent them from getting transition points, which is where the warriors love to thrive. The x factor for me is green, not Draymond green. The other green the one that we've takeover games in the past, but has very, very much been struggling this season. If they're able to run an offense through him. They can catch curry on some defensive lapses Keller show. I'm going to say for the warriors the splash, splash brothers. If I could talk need to keep reliving twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen playing with that. Joy they play with with the pressure is on them and they don't have Durant to score his thirty points. They're going to have to play a different game. Toronto's much better defensive team than Portland and really anybody going back to win. Beverly was bothering Durant, which seems like months ago. And for Toronto, two guys who have a very high ceiling market, Saul and Kyle Lowry. But we've seen him also hit the floor in Lowry's, head games, disappears and Ghazal. Sometimes doesn't it early threes and kind of phase from site. They can't do that. It's always if they play to the ceilings, that they can win their ceilings, have been the roof and floors have been the ground. Comes for Golden State to win and for Toronto pull this off. Tell me I'll keep it simple. If it's a high scoring game Golden State wins if both teams score below hundred hundred five I think Toronto can take this. They need to do to the words what they did to the bucks compete on the boards force turnovers. And when they're on defense drag them into the mud slow it down obviously Golden State's half court offense is much, much better than walkies. But it's a lesser of two evils situation for expert. There's gotta go with Lowery. We know his history in game ones. The average is like eleven points a game. How bad he's been. This is his opportunity to rewrite his postseason story. Repairs reputation he's been doing well. So everyone Toronto's first finals game every home underdog and shot, a Golden State without K D. So of course it's important. How can they maximize it? Sarah. Well, look at that line, just for drastic park they need to take advantage of how absolutely insane. That place is going to be tonight, because they have the rare advantage over the warriors of home court, if they get behind early, and they take the crowd out of it. They lose that entirely right? Opera. Run. I was gonna definitely concur with that. They need to get the jump early and get the crowd going because this is a the game. They got a better shot at game one. And do you believe Golden State is susceptible to that Tim Alaska that because they went behind and games against Portland? I think they are too. What Seren Bob said, you gotta remember when they went to Portland or went to Houston. They were up to when they got there. That's a very different crowd. That's a crowd, that feels that team is probably beat and they're just hoping to see something good. This is a new series a brand new experience for Canada. And yeah, I think the warriors are. Scenic himes. The non Kalis the step up as they've been stepping up Fred van fleet because Saul Lowry as I mentioned all of it because, you know, they're going to double down Kawai and this warriors defense, by the way, they're vulnerable right in the past win. The warriors have won in the finals had the first or second ranked defense when they lost their seventh so far this postseason. They are rank knife in defensive rating. They can be boogie cousins active to play. What will he do kind of wrench? We throw maybe the better off. That's maybe they might be not as strong defensively. Let's get down to game one again in the match upset. Everybody's watching Tim who guards qui-, and who does quite guard. Well, I think and Andre dollars drug LeBron assignment, whenever he was available since twenty fifteen. And this is the most LeBron player we have in the playoffs right now. So it's got to be him and as far as Leonard, I. Yes, he's capable of guarding anybody. And he's going to have to help at some point on clay, or on, on curry, but I don't think you want to expose into that early. He may guarding dollars. Well, Sarah Spain. Yeah. I think he's right about who's probably gonna start on Leonard, but I think because of all the switches and the doubling it's going to be a team effort. They're going to end up having dream on, maybe even Kvant looney at times chip in on him as far as Leonard's going to be on. I think it's going to be Igwe dollar and Draymond early because they want to save his legs and then down the stretch, they absolutely will try to shutdown curry, the Drake factor. Now the league's talked to the rafters about it, who's gonna guard, Drake. No. He's actually chilled out a little bit seems like ironically, everyone else's kinda in their feelings about Drake. I don't know why the NBA. Making headlines when they don't need to nonstop Bob rides reaction. When you went in the feelings of Drake with fell, he was nothing countless show. Well, you know, he's got thirty million Twitter followers, maybe the NBA survey of that say, we bring on musical acts to try to get crowds that don't you think? Embracing all they should be all things Drake here. I'm with you. I'm willing to make I think that conversation was just about the actual touching of Nick nurse but beyond that, just screaming after every play I think the MBA should be embracing that need to pick for game one Bob Ryan got. I think after going to make the snitching series right there you go in for Toronto, Sarah Spain. How about you? I think the raptors tonight in Tim cowlishaw sticky with Golden State of kinds. I'm taking Golden State as well. All right. So to for Toronto to Golden State, you know what that is? It's a drop on top here. Chaos theory you don't know which way it's going to go. We'll move on blue and three Bruhns school Riley. Guman goodison. That was his first boom, ever in the summit at the boop Lauda game. This was that's how saying Lewis wins, its first finals game ever, and even the series, the sheer twisted metal this game sunk list on grizzly, krueg Heron Clifton in the face terrorists cycles goal earlier in the game. They thing of beauty Tim. What's the number one reason, Saint Louis was able to pull this off? They have they have a team that with their size. They can be as physical as any team in the NHL, but they're also extremely fast when I watched them playing their best, their mind me the Blackhawks they were just starting their Ron of Stanley Cup. She had great skill but they also had dusted buffalo guys running around, who could knock you through the glass and Saint Louis did that to Dallas couple series ago. They did it last night when they needed to after losing game one and I just think it's been a great series already. The best TV tonight has one and, and I think it's going to it's going to be a long day. Remind me of the Chicago Blackhawks and Sarah's interest. Tito, yes. Yes, tell me more Sarah, go ahead. What did you see last night from Saint Louis lately, unfortunately? I got the win 'cause they listen to half of what I told them. All the game with their four checking which is what they needed to do. And they got good chances but they also got penalized five times. They keep taking dumb penalties, which is probably why talk them until overtime to finish this up if they played smarter on the penalty side of things, and they continue to control the four check they do both things I tell them. So promotion, the mating, call them you bun, because you're not bringing up the fact that they're three and one since you such shot at Saint Louis being the Chicago person that you are two weeks ago. Bob, right. You're in Boston. The Bruins didn't get the win that they wanted an old home ice. I saw full cups of beer left at the arena. At least I hope it was beer could have been something else about what's your take away from last night. Take away at this strengthen that Tim to is very important a bigger and stronger in general terms than the Bruins, and the Bruins, what the Bruins and wearing them down. They warmed out by overtime. It was almost or of Nevin ability from the time they got the puck and the overtime. And they deserve the win that game on every level. The Bruins need to get something out of the first line that they did not get Marchand was particularly not himself last night, and I was quiet. They need to get that first line back playing away a can but I think anybody thought it wasn't going to be a long series was delusion alongside. No, you think it's gonna be a long series. What did you take away from game to? I think it's takeaway, blues, players, more physicality and urgency wrecked up. Fourteen more hits one of those hits was the one that knocked out grizzly was a bit of a turning point. We also found out that apparently before overtime, gunnison sidled up to his coach while he was being called a shot. I saw. I saw that. No one reason, number one reason there we go. All right. What do we think should we use keys? Yes, we should use what he pays tease out. Does she do it? To me someplace on grizzly look, nasty a hearing. You know, wasn't dirty. I don't think it's thirty I think it has a bad result. I don't think he's going for the head I think the player. His body into a strange position. And if they go with the intent. You know, I think it's the hawk. It's hockey penalty, but I can see why people are upset about. He's in the concussion protocol will be traveling to Saint Louis Amelie with the we are traveling to buy or sell next, the ground. I don't know. You got a little around horn is brought to you by Mazda feel alive. 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For more information on the horn coming to you from the Heineken river decades, Pierce, seventeen. Thankfully, it appears like major league baseball avoided a tragedy last night. The images coming from Houston. We're so distressing initially a child screaming and pain after being struck by a foul ball hurried out of the stadium to the hospital. With very little news immediately, Albert Amora who hit the ball in tears in the stands trying to find out the young girl status initial report signs reposited, another thing, an adult struck in Los Angeles, drew blood, but that fan was okay. The tragedies voided this time last year. Dr fans struck and killed her name was Linda goal, bloop. She was seventy nine celebrating her birthday and wedding anniversary at the game. This was not reported initially as cameras never captured it. Seeing last night play out. What does baseball need to do? Is it incumbent on them to extend the nets they've already extended rather stadium? Yes, extend the nets foldable do it now to counter arguments. One that will kids shouldn't be sitting there anyways, but as you just showed it's not just kids are getting hurt. It's adults as well. The second thing is people say, well interferes with the experience. But I believe that with baseball, and hockey fans will get used to it. I've been to baseball games in Korea and Japan where they go pulled a poll, you stop noticing it after a while. Beat. Right. I think they should extend the netting all the way to the foul poles. If you give anything you tell them, you got seats behind home plate. Nobody's gonna say, oh, I don't want to sit there there's a net there. I mean you don't notice it after a while. And with the game being what it is every pitcher throws practically a hundred miles an hour. These guys get around on the pitches to go down the lines. It's too dangerous Spain. I mean, if you watch the people behind own plate, flinching, and reacting, you can see when you're watching that they don't remember that the nets there, that's very clear. You get used to it the way that those fans do. And if you go pull the pull that's the only answer to this, because even if you're watching, and you're paying attention that fall is moving too fast for even a dull. And you saw Al more. They're the players shouldn't have to be in a position to do that as well. Run. Oh, it's a lame excuse to give this not sense about people doesn't wanna look through the nets as, as been put it out to suppose best seats in the house, people through the nets set up pyre, but underneath be looking through the nets and Fenway. You don't even think about it. It's the only thing they got to go to the foul pole tonight. Every ballpark, get the right. I know tonight. So, so we x hail today. We say we've avoided a tragedy when in reality to tragedy happened last year. And it was so underreported. We didn't know about it for months. OT L to the initial report that I read, but somehow baseball have they ever made a statement about the loss of life at the dodgers game last year? I mean, that's mind ball be that the season even began without that being addressed. And without the nets being extended. We'll move on. Buy or sell two royals White Sox last night. That was an eighty six mile an hour. Glenn sparkman hitting in the head get any Jek immediately. You can hear world announce Ryan fever say over and over eighty six mile pitch earlier the game ninety five our pitch up in on the Royal hunter dosier elicited no warning from higher Mark Carlson earlier this season. Of course, you know, to manage enjoy hitting a home run casing got plumped in the rear with a ninety two mile per hour pitch since the miles per hour matter so much where you're getting struck by rock. Tim buyer sell last night to meet ejection. I got a cell just the handling of it. It's obvious. These on Pires aware of what went on to these teams and Tim Anderson last time, so there where someone haven't with Anderson's. What about one hundred dollars up? What about that fastball head? No warning. The fact they missed that the royals had a good compare Spain. Yes. To me. Anderson may be the main culprit in terms of who we expect to get thrown out. But when there's beef between two teams that doesn't mean when the other team gets thrown at you simply ignored particularly when it looked like that one might have been even more intentional. I know the best way to get rid of this stop with the stupid unwritten rules where we get to throw at people ever. It should always be an issue. I have no patience with those so called unwritten rules, and I understand why why Mark Carlson did what he did. But he's damned if he doesn't it Dan, if he doesn't in the long run. And I bet now that he knows that was was he wishes he hadn't vote them out, but it's too late. Usually, I assume its intention given the history given what happened in this game. But the way he looked at his hand and the terribleness of that pitch. I actually do think it might have been mistaken. I think I'm probably in the wrong there the miles per hour, matter when it comes to whether there's insana, whether it's a mistake or not, because it was eighty six and a change of does that mean he wasn't trying to injure him the last story we just did was about balls striking people that applies to players as well their safety as well. We can't have that happened. We'll move by herself three. You'll be pleasantly surprised the mar is not going to be running twenty times a game, that's not what our offense is about. That was ravers owner. Steve shoddy buyer sell that being better for the ravens fire sell your pleasant surprise. Well to quote Cam Newton, you can't keep a lion from roaring and that didn't work in two thousand seventeen when they said about camp, it ain't happening this time, either run. If you don't want him to one. Don't hire Greg Roman. This is what he's here for. This is what he's as OC. So come on. Meantime, both ways, I'm buying it not only because they need Jackson to absorb fewer hits because it will be better football. Yes, he needs to run, but not that much because the threat of a run stops working as well. If you're not afraid of impasse, too. I'm selling it. It's like saying we're going to build this team round Aaron Rodgers we're not going to throw as much because he might get hit in the pocket. I mean that's what Lamar Jackson does. Well. Did set the record modern day for Russia's for quarterback. And he only played about half the season. Yeah. Therapy what was the line? You can't stop lion from roaring can't, but make you receive for the background per second. Bob Ryan will join you their showdown. We have the room. That's the room sip cash showed up next. Well, well, well, this is the start of a rivalry me to kind of cash. Good luck to you both broken rib for Carlos Correa while getting a massage at home credit for the honesty, or blame for the massage therapist, Meena. Baseball injuries are so weird. I'm gonna blame the therapist that sounds a little bit too violet crash at a higher Drake. Right. Because he gives those gentle massages that you can barely. Or now what he page? I don't understand. I'm gonna go credit for honesty. Here it is the team. That's already lost Springer L to and fans. We're kinda devastated when they heard his Korea. Run for that instead. This is Springer L to bakery. We're up seven and a half games. I think we can handle it for showed out to Willie as walk off a Willie the bat flip into a new stratosphere. Doesn't matter that the wall was a single Tim. I'm gonna I'm gonna give Willie past this game started with roughly six thousand fans in the stands that might include some ticket buyers didn't show up by the eleventh inning. I don't know who was left. Do anything you can to entertain race fans. I loved it. I watched Korean baseball. And what you see there is what yourself verticality check bad, flip of a single check. We need more of that in major league baseball. Ooh. You need more of your answer me two kinds, gotta point. But it just zero thirty seconds of face time Tim Keller show. I may not be the proper thority on this topic since I haven't bought a beer in ten years, but about a lot of before that point. But the university of Georgia has just announced you can buy beer at their football games, but it will cost you it will cost you twenty five thousand dollars. That's the donation over five years. And by the way, you can't watch the game at the same time you have to go to a designated area by this fear, unless the SEC changes its rules. So to say the beer's going to be sold at Sanford stadium. It's true. Not a lot of buyers, wildly twenty five thousand twenty five grand. It's worth it for you, Sarah, yes. Yet. Your money's worth. I think calico by the way, maybe to spend twenty five thousand reading, Tim Keller shows book drunk on sports available, all our Valvo. Yes. Yes. All right. He's got the win on its three hour break. See tomorrow.
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And he told me a cool thing that he is graduating from eastern Kentucky university on may tenth. He followed through on a promise that he made to his parents in the fall of nineteen ninety one he was in college. And he wanted to go to school and his parents said we want you to finish your degree. So he promised them in one thousand nine hundred ninety one someday I'll finish my degree for you. And that's what's going to happen this spring. I thought that was pretty cool. What do you think that is very cool trivia for you, though, what is eastern Kentucky's mascot. The colonel's. That's right. Good giant hover made Easter Kentucky game. Yeah. When I was at the Nashville banner, I covered in eastern Kentucky game. There you go. Good member. And I had to reach out of my brain for that. So good. I'm glad I got that. That would have been embarrassing because I saw that the president of eastern Kentucky was re tweeting that Greg Gibson tweet. When I sent that out last night. So I'm glad I got it. The the a lot of people, I think would've said the hilltop IRS, but that's western Kentucky. So good job. Yeah. Exactly. Big difference between Easter Kentucky and western Kentucky as people in Kentucky. Well, no right is notes of the day. The Boston's Nathan of all these gonna have elbow surgery is loose bodies in that elbow. He told reporters this the other day that he felt like it was just going to be cleanup situation that he would be back. And so it seems like he's going to be back sometime in early June the inky and the angels play late into the night on Monday night out on the west coast fourteen innings because of what happened in the twelfth inning. When the angels are trailing the keys three two two one picks now. Detailed? His died back to the base. That from the angels television network actually that goes are got hit in the head on that play. He had to come out of the game. And because of that as they move forward into the thirteenth any Peter Borjas outfielder in his professional career had to play second base in. This is what happened in his first inning playing the infield at the plate board is to scale down. Well ball it his way. Second down by boards is the first. This. And it was Brett Gardner running down the line speedy Brett Gardner, how about Peter Borjas ballplayer. Josh fro total pro. They go to the fourteenth inning still tied three all in this happened. Travel. Yeah. You had a big night for the been playing. Well, Michael k on the yes network Yonki win that game four to three the Rockies playing. The nationals Nolan are not oh reached a milestone in style. Really? He's gonna get. Don't think about that. For a moment. Hits. Soda. To second base. I was about to say hit it too hard which allowed sodo to make the catch spoil squared off. To left center field. Two thousand. Check to lead foot Nolan. AT and T sports at the Rockies win that game. Seven to five the cardinals and the brewers Pogue old Schmidt has hammered the brewers this year the same way the Christian yelich hit hard against the cardinals and Goldschmidt. Did it again on Monday night of a pitch? Swing and a high fly ball the left center back goes the left feared or he looks up. Homerun for going Smith his ninth of the year. And it's a two run shot in the cardinals elated. Mike, Shannon with the coolest home run calls in major league baseball and the cardinals radio network. Saint Louis wins the game thirteen to five the twins are rolling at the top of the American League central whore. Hey, Polanco off to a great start. And this Paul hit welder right field. Rediculing back. He's turned around leaps at the wall. Debate into the wallet. In the seats throw home. What it did a full Pirro lack he's smashed into the fence. He came to earth in a look for all the warm like he might have the ball in his blog. He did not at it's a home run or hip along at its nine to five Minnesota with a nice win nine to five that call on the Treasure Island. Baseball network. Satterfield came. Of the day and the game of the day on Monday, the Mets in the Phillies and city field and before that game Brodie van wagon in the Mets general manager had some good news about Jacob degrom. Jacob degrom got good results from his MRI today. Emery was good clean. No problems whatsoever. Jacob threw a bullpen today. He's on track to make his make his start when he's able to come off. So good news on on the health for Jacob. Yeah. We talked to on the podcasts on Monday, how the Mets felt like internally that this was just a case where Jacob degrom was feeling the effects of the onus that he had strep throat for the better part of a week. Well as his game went along Bryce Harper was at the plate in the top of the fourth inning. And he was not happy to one and he takes that's the strike called. Harford didn't like it. I didn't like it. So that that matters. Not to Mark Carlson. It doesn't marks. That from Scott France ski sports radio ninety four WIP a few batters later this happened the one one. Strike. And it says are looks back the see through someone out. Oh, Mark Carlson. I think he just injected Bryce Harper. Harper dot comes out of the dugout. He's coming after Mark Carlson gave Kappler's in Carlson space and now Harper coming over Cape. Kappler pushes him back dusty wafted coming over to get him out of there. Same with rob Thompson Kappler is furious right now with Carlson its nose to nose with the home plate umpire. And his game moved along without Bryce Harper. The Mets had a two one lead. Jeff McNeil at the plate in the bottom of the fifth. One to pick deal hit teacher right field held the line at away. The lower standards at life feel for chip McNeil his first home run of the year. And let's have a three to one lead a online drive home front by McNeil eight three to one lead on their way to a five to one victory. That was how he rose on WCBS. Now after the game Jake Arrieta had some pointed words about Harper getting ojected, we need him feel. I don't care about the empire is he wasn't great for other side on out there trying to make pitches. He misses some calls. So what? We need him out there. We were flat from from start to finish two. Our delay? Doesn't matter. We have to be ready to play. We weren't gonna show. Why philan- what are you guys? We started at eight forty five. And I don't think our guys were ready to play. I'm out there doing everything I can to win a game. I need my guys behind me. And they weren't Bryce Harper agreed with areas overarching point, it just can't happen. You on my side, you know, the game like and that's division rival things like that. Just can't happen. Yeah. For me myself and his team as well. We're benefiting meeting the lineup, and I got to stand there and Harper talked about his temper, I'm uses air one hundred anyways. So I mean, look at all manage nations, it's usually pretty calm, and then bam ones that happens. What it out, I guess? But you know, like, I said, you know, that can't happen. I got that game. Gotta be there for my team for this organization fans as well. And I got better Phillies manager Gabe Kappler talked about what was yelled at the up higher. There is normal chirping from the dugout that is in every dugout every single night. It was no different are dugout. Did not agree with Mark. A lot of Mark's calls. Our David Ross was on sportscenter withstand Barrett. Talking about what Bryce Harper gate leading up to his objection with the pitches were zone. There's a pitch is high tonight. And this guy's first in all of baseball and walks had legit argument to me, and you know, he saw another one on teammate say Hernandez was up out zone. Apparently says choice words to be unpire out of the dugout and got to check. It have no problem with it. He knows the strike zone pie. Check the tape, and you know to his reputation. This guy's got a lot of puts a lot of pressure on himself and expect it to perform and he just wants to do his job. I don't have any problem with. It is great teammate plays the game hard plays. It the right way. Let's get to it. Bob Nightingale covers baseball for USA today and Bobby. So what happened city field last night? Bryce Harper gets ojected. Jake Arrieta was critical after the game. I off before we get to that sound. How're you doing? Yeah. Great. Thanks and appreciates joining us. So here's Jake Arrieta area. Again, play that sound Josh if he can reacting to Harper getting ojected we need him right field. I don't care about the empire is he wasn't great rather side on out there trying to make pitches. He misses some calls. So what like? We need him out there. We were flat from from start to finish two. Our delay? Doesn't matter. We have to be ready to play. We weren't gonna show. Why philan- what are you get? We started at eight forty five. And I don't think our guys were ready to play. I'm out there doing everything I can to win a game. I ninety my guys behind me, and they work. And then it was Bryce Harper talking about what happened is this can't happen. You on my side. You know, the game like that. And that's division rival things. Like that. Just can't happen. You know for me myself and this team as well. We're a better team meeting the lineup, and I gotta stay in. In bob. There was a lot of reaction to what area at a said ally. So a lot of response at Twitter were fans are saying boy, how can you say that about your teammate keep that in the clubhouse? Is there a problem between these two guys? And I actually think that context is really important because these are two guys who seemingly have a really good relationship. They're both represented by Scott Boris when Harper agreed to terms with the Phillies one of the first people that heard about it was Jake Arrieta. Is Scott Boris texted him, and an airhead has out that that that video that we all saw him cleaning up his condo. When he was in his Speedo, saying get ready for Bryce the last time. I was around the Phillies I was interviewing Ariana and Harper sitting right next to him. And I also thought about this too that I felt like that in Bryce braces time with the nationals. And I don't know why this took place, but I always felt like Bryce was sort of in his own universe to some degree that he sort of flew off on his own, and he would do things and except for. The obvious exception of Jonathan Pap abundant. Nobody would ever really say. Hey brice. Why did you handle it this way? Bryce, why did you get a jetted Bryce, why are you doing things the way you're doing them? And I actually think it's a really good thing that early and Harper's tenure with the Phillies that you have an older player. Say come on, dude. Stay in the game. What was your takeaway from all that? Yeah. That's great. What Jake Arrieta. Instead remember a year ago. I was in in San Francisco when area I just called called out gave capper and the coaching staff and the phone office thing, what are we doing this shifts? These shifts aren't working, you know, you look, we're making more blunders heirs of any team in baseball with the shifts in all the analytics Prut proved to be right. So he's not afraid to call out anybody, you know, including Harper's statements, you know, by being that Platte. So I think he's got a, you know, he commanded great respect in the cubs. Club outs. All those years. And I think the same thing the short stay so far with the Philadelphia, and he may be starting pitcher. But he's a team leader in. He's not afraid to call guys out. Let him know what what he thinks. I'm ac- very pressed grade, you know, he's still pissed a very good game and nothing to show for it. And I think he says, wait a minute. Now, I'm best may in out of here. You know, you guys should be doing the same thing. And almost calling out Harper in the sense that hey, you know, it's one thing you get a Jack in you're right winter at at the plate and everything else, you know. But you know, when it's three four batters, you know, deep in almost that you're so young gap and from the dugout that's inexcusable and get thrown again. Yeah. And Bryce now and his Kerr's been injected twelve times by twelve different Pires into that great information. We got from ESPN stats and information, ten of those twelve ejections were on balls and strikes, and you could see this coming during that game last night because in his first at that. There was a strike called that according to Kaysone was above the strike zone. It was out of the strikes on a Bryce wasn't happy about that. And then that continued into that next plate of parents. And as you said, he's yelling from the dugout, and I know our friend David Ross thought that what was said wasn't out of the ordinary. It was a typical banter coming from the dugout gave Kappler said something along those lines. I talked to enough on Pires through the years word some point they become like, the angry parent like annouce sick a hearing from you. That's the way it used to be with with Frank Thomas where the pirates get your so tired of hearing it that they just feel like get outta here. Stop complaining. What do you think? No, absolutely. I mean, Hannity going on and on. Maybe magic words being said, you know, maybe at some point to Billy's fault. The Philly should told him in quiet down here. You know, you're getting it on fire skin. If you're not gonna be if you're not careful you're going to be tossed. Nice exactly what happened. So I mean Harper it's been jacket wet, you know, more more than they acted player except for MAC Kim and Kim spend the big league six years longer. So, yeah, he's got to be careful and all of a sudden umpires are close knit group. Don't start looking for that stuff in in in had more about more rabbit ears and say, okay. This guy's upset at start listening to see what he has to say. So you know, you start to develop a reputation, you know, want. Did you have the same sense of Harper with the nationals that I just mentioned that it felt like that he was kind of off in his own universes some degree and the other player sort of operated around him, and you wouldn't necessarily see veteran players sort of trying to for. Of a better way to describe it. Steer him and keep him in the mix. Yeah. Yeah. It was almost like you were secluded there. You know? And that was a product of the public latest down for what is almost like, hey, when he talked, you know, there are people, you know, minoring conversations and things like that. I get the sense now just being around the Phillies today's in spring trimming, and in groping series is that he's much more part of that group. Now, you know, just say you see him sitting with the the players turning spring training. There's a lot more banner with him in his teammates before two games. So I sorta get the sense even though he just got there as much more part of it integral. Mix with the Phillies anyways with the nationals. I totally agree with everything you just said, Mike Golic on golick and wingo. This morning was talking about what Jake Arrieta said he wasn't wild about some of this stuff that Jake had to say ninety nine percent of that was fine. Yeah. What does that last line? I mean, I'm. Out there. Trying my best I need my guys. Don't come on. Seriously. Keep with the waste of you're doing fine. You ended it on a real clunker though. I'm out there. Trying guys play better. I'm trying really hard. I'm supposed to put myself on laugh on may, man. What one team? Yeah. So there was like senior and my junior chiming in on what Jake said I want to ask you about Dallas kaikal and Craig kimbrel to free agents still unsigned, and I do wonder now that we're starting to get into late April. If in fact, it might be a better strategy for these guys at this point to wait until after the June draft. So they won't be attached to free agent compensation anymore. They've waited one hundred and seventy seven days Bob since the end of the World Series. They only have about forty five more days to go. And if you're David meter who represents Craig kimbrel, or if he's Scott Boris, and you represent Dallas kaikal, you might say, you know, I might as well, wait the last forty five days to separate the players from the draft pick compensation. I've had executive say to me. Yeah. It would make a difference in how I thought of the player in how the offers that it might make to that guy. What do you think? Yeah. I'm not sure how much effect that would make. I think with the Washington nationals that would on kimbrel. 'cause it seemed like it was going to them more than other teams with kimbrough. I don't hear that much. But with Kyko at all and also the nationals then don't here team saying, oh my God. I don't wanna get drafted to get these guys, you know, just because of experience everything else. I think it's a situation where just, you know, both miss read the market. You know, I'm sure they could assigned for nice big our contracts or in the winter doesn't get now. The trouble of both. These guys are facing is starting to get late in the game. I mean, kinda got won't be ready until June. He can pitch as often as they once you're on face and professionally hitters everything else and missing all spring training. In all Kimmel has to do is look at what happened last Greg. Holland, Holland was doing the same thing he signed with the cardinals and opening day was up a week later and stunk. And then he was so bad the cardinals release. Him and it's fourteen million dollar contract in July. You start getting things you know, better in in the season. And you talk to Holland, and he says a complete nightmare. Now, only are you waiting high missing sprinting trending, but now you're trying to learn new teammates and everything else get acclimated back amended and a lot of pressure on you 'cause everybody's watching. So I think these guys value is just going down by the day. Just because of how late it's going to be until until they're even ready three more quick ones for you before you go GIO Gonzalez released by the Yankees yet an opt out in his contract. I do think he's gonna wind up with either the brewers of the Mets. What do you think? Will you push for the brewers surprise the brewers that make a play for him before? I find some rumors need a starting pitcher, you know, whether him work or waiting Miley pitch, very well for them in rotation is, you know, really struggling I mean outside they, you know, a couple of guys they're, you know, they're good. They're going, you know, four or five innings a start and they're gonna wear out that bullpen and we're out eight or if they're not careful, so I think the brewers make a perfect fit. You know, why not why not try talking to her anything? We've seen all these contracts. Extensions for so many players have heard from agents effort from players that they believe the number of extensions is going to undercut any possible threat that the union can wave for work stoppage. When the current CVA runs out in December of two thousand twenty one and big picture. And I've heard this more and more and more than what we've seen over the last three years, Bob and want to get your view on this. What we've seen over the last three years is the greatest shift in power between the two sides since the measure Smith and McNally arbitration awards in nineteen seventy five that led to the union winning frayed since he for the players the pendulum the feeling of a lot of people in the industry now has swung. So far that it's the greatest shift since that event. Agree disagree. What do you think? No, no. I read your column. Great points in that one. Yeah. I mean, the union had so much power. All these years just ran right over the owners year after year and in something's gone wrong. I mean, they have the revenues up over ten billion dollars in baseball in for cell to, you know, be stagnant. Or even go down little bit know makes no sense. I thought it was very smart for Chris Davis assign that contract, but the eight last week, you know, just a slight raise again, you know, now is getting thirty two million dollars over those next two years. I if David said become a free agent, you know being the power hitting guy, and he'll be in the age, you know, he had been sitting around till next spring training. Just the way it is in some with you. I don't I don't I don't see it work stoppage. I mean, we're years away anyway or a strike just because you know, it's been so long now I mean these guys not player playing who's ever. Been with one when those things in as a guy really wanna risk is salary, but took in when he's toward the end of a square helping out a another generation of players. It's not gonna benefit him at all. And like, you said with all these guys sent extensions you know, they're all they're all backloaded. It's all all the sent three years from now, you're gonna be you know, these guys can finally sniffing. They're big money, and they really wanna wet walk away from that. So I I have a hard time believing so much appetite at all for for work stoppage on Sunday night baseball. We brought up this concept at some point. It'd be cool to see a coach's corner in the hall of fame because there's so much great work being done, by coaches across baseball's landscape, and they don't really have a spot to honor those guys for me if you were to come up with a mount Rushmore the first name on it would be Dave Duncan. How about you? Mainly these assume organization by going George Kissel. I mean, people just rave about what he did for the fillers in Saint Louis cardinals during his station and into this day. Whether you're talking Tony LaRussa wherever they still rave about you know, that karnal ring his nation. No one hundred play the game. Right. They still go back to George Kissel days. You know lot of George Kissel. I think you see what you know, why Washington is doing or or a period hill. But yeah, kisla would be my guy just from what he's meant. He's still has up that legacy that impact and that great cardinals organization. Bob, thanks for doing this. Oh is left talking with you. My pleasure. Thanks. Technology truth. Brought to you buddy. Geico. Truth. You think you can solve any problem by tuning computer, all fend on him and is something through laptop. Now just need to turn it off and on. It smoking. Yeah. That's just museum needs to recruit truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. In Nelson, fire happens all the time. It's all good. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more numbers game. Sarah Lang's is a reporter and a producer for MLB dot com. And Sarah last night. You saw your Mets playing against the Philadelphia Phillies Bryce Harper gets injected after the game Jake Arrieta, sir. Softly chastises him to the media saying look we need them on the field. What was your take about what happened with Harper last night? You know, when he first came out there, and he's running out there. I found myself immediately going back to the pitch log and trying to see exactly what he was angry about and there had been that high strike on Cesar Hernandez, and he'd gotten one of those called on him in each of his two prior at bat. So and I mean anyone who was watching that game saw how inconsistent zone was last night. And it really really was not just on the high strike. So I definitely kind of understood the frustration in that, you know, setting especially in our in our forty five minute delay before the game, you're tired. It's cold. It's just, you know, not the situation wanna be in. But you know, that being said you do have obligations your team. I it was kind of. I I really didn't know what to think of what area to said because you know, I just remember obviously, different situation. But you know, when he called out Miguel Montero after that game were trade Turner, stole those bases on him. And obviously that was his catcher it's a little bit different of a situation. But they have calling out a teammate in the media. I'm not sure that that's necessarily. How I would handle it. If I were professional baseball player, but you know for Harper. Harper gets dejected a lot, you know, he's a second most among active players and no Phillies player had been injected since two thousand fifteen so Mike away from that was this team's competitive. They're really in it, and they care a lot more now. And that's almost a good. Takeaway, you know, even though you don't want to be attracted, right? Your new part of the team. Hey, we need you on the field. That was the message. And I'm glad that feels like that they're connecting the players are with the Phillies in a way that I eat never got the sense that they really did with the nationals when Bryce over there. Let's play the numbers game number three. Number three is thirteen. That's how many home runs Christian yelich has this season. It's time for the third. Most home runs by any player before may first in any season. And it's only twenty third. So he's still got time. The only players with more are Albert pools in two thousand six dollars for Drake as in two thousand seven who each had fourteen. So I mean, he's got seven games left to hit just two home runs to set that record. But the thing that might be working against him is that he hasn't hit a home run on the road yet and five of those seven games at the birds have left this month are on the road and all thirteen of yellow just home runs have come at home all sixteen of his last home runs in the regular season. Dating back to the end of last season have come at home. So, you know, obviously, that's just a weird thing. We know. He's a good hitter. We know he's gonna hit a home run on the road. But it's really weird that he hasn't had one yet. Number two, number two is fifty six that so many home runs. The Mariners have this season. And the most home runs by any team and its first twenty five games of the season edging out the two thousand cardinals by one they had fifty five. No other team has ever had even fifty home runs in their first twenty five games of the season. And not only that the Mariners the first team in will be history with a home run in twenty four their first twenty five games of the season. So they had that great streak that ended, but they've hit a home run every other game since then I don't know if we've even. Really noticed that? They've fifty six home runs and twenty five games last year. They hit their fifty six home run in game. Number fifty on may twenty six. It's April twenty third and they haven't played yet for April third for that. Matt number one number one is twenty and forty one. That's how old Lyme your hair junior will be on Friday when it appears he may make his major league debut twenty one years old and forty one days the youngest player in Blue Jays history with a home run is Danny aines that Danny aines who hit one on June. Second nineteen seventy nine at twenty years and seventy seven days old. He hit the two youngest home runs in Blue Jays history. Those were the only two home runs of his major league career, the longest is up soon. If feels like he's definitely going to break that and four Bluejays have homered in their major league. Debuts Devon Travis in twenty fifteen j arencibia in twenty ten who hit two and then Steve stags, Al woods both in nineteen seventy seven. So the Mariners get going back to them. They have the second best run differential in baseball. At this point. They certainly have started better than what we all expect. Are you buying that? They're going to be a team that's going to be around all year. It's hard to buy it because I don't have a lot of faith in their pitching. It's certainly been good to this point. Mark Gonzales has looked really good at points for sure. But you know, we're still talking about kind of end of the line Felix Hernandez, and that rotation and you know, a couple of other guys who you're not so sure you can rely on. I mean this team had James Paxton last year. Right. Like, I believe that a little more last year when they made their run. And you know, it's worth remembering that for a decent part of the first half last season. It looked like they might be the team to come out one of the teams to come out of the American League. So it's hard to say, but I do have to say a lot of times when you see these splashes in the panel in the season like run differential is the easy way to weed it out like, yeah, they're winning all these games. But look what they're under French law is and the fact that they aren't there yet aren't like on the negative of that could mean something good. I mean, it would be great to see that postseason drought, and, you know, just for baseball and for those players and that city and everything one hundred percent, and I'll tell you this after talking with members of the marriage. Under staff before our first broadcast the Mariners and the Red Sox on opening day to hear them talk about the progress of Domingo's Santana, and Tim Beckham it feels like those two veteran players have figured something out. So I don't think this offense is necessarily going away. I have real concerns about that infield defense, and whether or not that's going to get better, and whether or not that's gonna take them down during the course of the Sarah, thanks for doing this. Thanks, unless crowded me back there. It's more than just a conversation. The weekly dish with Keith law on baseball tonight. Keith us gaffe-free SPN. He writes for ESPN, he's on television, free SPN Akita. I wanna ask you about a decision that came down last Friday from major league baseball after that incident between Brad Keller, and Tim Anderson of the Chicago White Sox. Tim Anderson gets ones of getting a one game suspension are Jeff passan reported. And I'm not going to be explicit about the words that he discovered were said by Tim Anderson, Brad. Keller. The Tim Anderson essentially was suspended a game for yelling week act and word at Brad Keller. And I got to tell you that when I first heard about the suspension, I thought boy, this is a slippery slope for major league baseball to go down to start to legislate. The words that players are yelling at each other on the field during fights in our Sunday night baseball production. We talked about this a little bit on Sunday morning and Alex Rodriguez said, yeah, if you were to try to break down all the words that are being yelled by the players, speaking Spanish, she said, he said, you would hear a lot of stuff. And I was gonna write a column along those lines. And then I thought more about it. And I talked to other people who who have some knowledge of this decision. And basically what I got back was look, you can't yell words like that in a place of work. And I thought about all the places that I worked in a in a bagel place in west Lebanon, New Hampshire at newspapers at ESPN in. If anybody had yelled anything remotely close to something like that. You absolutely would be suspended. You wouldn't be disciplined. And I thought back to other situations that had happened. You know, you, you know, less Kabar with the I black beneath his eyes, and he had the the word that was homophobic on that. He wanted to being suspended. We saw the thing with Yuli gurriel during the two thousand seventeen World Series making the gesture toward the mound. I think it was kept on my ADA at that time, and the more that I thought about I said, you know, what that they're right? You can't do that in a place of work. Out on the field. If you're playing in a pickup basketball game, stuff's going to get yelled. And that's not under the jurisdiction on the field. I get it. What do you think? Yeah. I you are probably right. Also, I had a few pretty good discussions on Twitter. Chats clarify 'cause mostly Twitter's cesspool. But if you brought up the very good point, which I agree with, and I thought I it's the only explanation come up with will Wh-why mutually baseball chose to do. This is that if a white player chose to use that same word towards an African American player in yet. Major league baseball had not suspended African American player for using that word, and they might have a problem maintaining that discipline in the case of the white player using you know, I personally philosophically have an issue with disciplining an African American player for using that word because that word has in. Nearly different meanings. Particularly different connotations depending on the race or background of the person. Using it to me Anderson using that word is very different than if Brad Keller had used that war. If you're I had used that word in this suspension appears to not take that into account at all the problem is I don't know that suspension could take that into account because major league baseball sort of internal Justice system does operate on precedent. I know it's not a court system, but it kinda functions like one, and if they were to try to turn around suspend a white player for using that word in the direction of an African American player later, but didn't suspend him Anderson for using it. They might have a problem getting that to hold up in front of third party or betrayed her at some point. And so I understand why they did it. I don't like it. I don't think that word has anywhere this thing, wait or or derogato-. Corey. Meaning when it's used by an African American player towards the white player. But I I think I understand why major league baseball probably felt like they had to act with a what is essentially a slap on the wrist. It is just one game. And I as I say, I initially thought it was a slippery slope for them to go down in terms of legislating. What can be said on the field? I think it's even in a more slippery slope to say, well, you're allowed to use that word, but you're not that would be even more difficult. I think for them to to maintain consistently as they move forward. Yeah. I agree. That's that. I think is the whole is literally the only rational explanation, I could come up with or any readers can look at a tweet that got some play and so up there were a lot of responses. There were a lot of white men in my mentions explaining to me about the N word, which is always fun. But that it was the only explanation anyone came up with that. I thought made rational sense that there's no emotion attached this. Let's they have to suspend an African American player for using it. So that at some point if a white player uses it they can say, look, nobody can use that word. We're not we're not putting in different punishments different rules for players of different backgrounds. I I agree. I understand that it don't like it. Because again, like I mean, you know, I can't use that word. I would never think to use that word. Right. But I never gonna American person using that word has has an entirely different. Meaning that word is fraught with history. There's. A word that maybe there are other words like that. For other groups think reclaimed them from people who use them in a derogatory sense as if to I got got we could probably talk about this for the entire podcast. But there's just there's there's a history of that word that gets Noord here. And there was if he's I'm sorry. I don't remember the name of the writer in the new York Daily News. But he had a great piece on it. That said major league baseball essentially honors Jackie Robinson by telling Tim Anderson to down and shut up. And I think from the emotional part of this ignoring this sort of rational that you and I are talking about that writer did the best job of articulating exactly what is the sort of bad optics here of not understanding that that word means very different things depending on who's saying. Speaking of bad optics Vladimir Guerrero, junior still in the minor leagues for the Toronto Blue Jays. And we know that the beginning of the area was in the minor leagues because he had an injury in spring training, which rescued the Blue Jays to some degree from the whole quandary about when to call them up, and whether they were going to manipulate service time they could maintain the the position that hey, this guy's coming back from an injury. And we're having the minor leagues to prepare for that you, and I both know that for them. It was a great relief because it meant that they could defer his his eligibility for free agency by one year because of the timing of this now this week there were some reports that he might be called up as soon as today for the big leagues. There is speculation in the Toronto media that they may may not happen now until Friday because the Leafs in the raptors are playing and the Blue Jays might be concerned that hey in terms of marketing the debut of Vladimir Guerrero, junior wouldn't get as much. Attention. If he did it today or if he did it tomorrow because they're bigger events going on in Toronto. And I don't know if that's true Keith if it is true that is a -fensive to me because I feel like at some point stop. If the kid is earned the right to be in the big leagues put him in the big leagues. And what they could do is call them up today. And if they want to hold back debut a day or two, okay? I would get that. But he deserves to be on the big league roster. How do you feel about it? Yeah. I agree. Well, first of all. Teams do push the us off a day or two all the time because the trying to get especially a player like this you want to call you want to call them up at home. Right. Don't you wanna has the I'm at the point you can sell a bunch of? Yes, exactly. That's a good one. You can you can you know, when it's a highly touted highly anticipated player, do you wanna bunch extra tickets? I totally understand that you should do that. And wouldn't you rather have the kids in this case come and have the comfortable environment of being at home? Scooby a ton of attention on him. I personally don't think seem by junior bunch of times. I don't think that's going to bother him either way. But in just the general case, sir, I want if I were general manager a manager. I say he'll close kit up in some favorable circumstances. Let's do it at home. It's you we control the media environment a little bit more. Let's do we know the is going to be favorable. And by the way, we're going to sell a whole bunch of extra tickets. I'm totally fine with that. I think your larger point really hold that this kid's been ready for a long time, arguing he's probably been ready since June of last year, and they have continued to delay it strictly for service time reasons, I mean that is what all of this is about. And I do think that the Blue Jays for an office has mishandled this from more of a public relations standpoint multiple levels, you know, they serve they keep pushing this off and giving sort of dubious excuses, the Ross Atkins thing, I think we talked about why don't see him as a major league player right now. Right. You can't say things like that the fancy through and that act like it's going to be all sunshine and daffodils when you call the guy up eventually you look at the mess just put reliance on on the opening day roster. That's worked out spectacularly the Padres. Did the same Fernando Totti's junior. And Chris paddock that's worked out spectacularly. And so now as a result the Blue Jays, I think look a little bit worse. Because other teams have said, you know, what screw service time. We're just gonna put the best guys on. The major league roster when they're ready and many of those moves are working out. Extremely well. And the Blue Jays keep doing stuff. Keep changing the story around junior. Even as major league baseball, the continues to tweet market the guy who's never just still hasn't cast majorly paycheck. Yeah, it's kinda distasteful or really across the board. And it feels like a, you know, win the battle lose the war type thing because I've heard this from a number of agents about the manipulation look at some point. You wanna have a strong trust between an organization and a player, and you want the player to believe that the organization is being forthright in their handling of the of that said player, and you can't keep having these situations of pop up with the players wondering really, you really don't think. I'm good enough for the big leagues. Really you. You're not gonna call me up because what what's happening in the NHL in the NBA and raising these questions, and I think really good example. Of that might be with what's happened with Chris Brian in the cubs. You know, we all know that the cubs delayed his promotion to the big leagues because they wanted to defer his eligibility for free agency by year. So they waiting to call them up. And at that time, Chris was he understood I've got mutual friends with Chrissy said, look, I get it. It's a business. Well, as time has gone on. Now, he turned down a contract offer from the cubs. He's Scott Boras client, and it feels like that. There's some separation there that the the relationship isn't completely warm and fuzzy in the way it was the beginning. I don't blame Kris Bryant at all. You're asking questions about is this the business is it something where this is an organization I wanna work for want to trust completely. Because some of that trust is a road by situations. Like this. I think that there is especially in an era now where maybe not an Arab. It'd be a moment. Now where we're seeing a lot of these young players. Signed contract extensions fairly early. And I mean, I'm not gonna talk about specific extensions. We've we've been over that recently you and I talked about that. But just in general teams are proteins players with long term contract offers well before they're getting free agency often before they're getting to arbitration and we've seen several players. Take those offers, and they do think, and I've never get criticized to play it for taking for not taking for for just for the active, and we can talk about whether the deal was a bad one for the player. But I understand why a player might say, look, this is life changing money. I'll just take it. But you do have to has some relationship to if a player feels like you know, what I want to stay here because they just haven't treated me fairly from the beginning. And then and he's also confident Kris Bryant competent enough to say, I'm gonna get the free agency. And I don't know exactly what I'm going to get. But I'm gonna get I'm not gonna end up paying by the time. I get to free agency. Is that conversation different? If the cubs just call him up. Right away as soon as he's ready on opening day to the Blue Jays end up in a similar situation at some point with lead junior. It's entirely possible. It is plausible that the player. Could. It's not a grudge either. All it got what player could hold a grudge, they're human. But I'm just thinking for a player to say north association. Didn't treat me fairly. Maybe I'll go to one of the twenty nine other that might treat me more fairly going forward. And it's just a in again in a time when we see a lot of teams approaching players about contract extensions. It feels like the Blue Jays are almost precluding that possibility saying, I don't know we were so convinced he's not gonna sign extension with us. We're just going to be manipulated service time as much as possible. So that we can push off his eventually regency. Instead of saying I think what the Padres are are likely thinking with two peace junior is what we call them up immediately. He was ready. He's been good. I right away winning more games than people thought we were going to at least in early going at some point. We'll just try to approach him out of contracting. Attention. Before we go two more quick ones for you. The Minnesota Twins off to really great store leading the American League central at the time that Derek Valby took over the twins baseball operations. He was working with the Cleveland Indians. And I had folks in the Indians organization say this guy is a front office star. He's great at what he does. It's not going to be long before the twins organization takes Vic step forth that LeVine was brought in as the number two in that organization. They're tied for ninth in the majors in runs so far this year one hundred sixteen they're second in Opie S eight fifty seven they've out homered opponents thirty five to twenty four they've doubled opponents forty nine to thirty one. They look like they're going to be around all summer. What do you make of the twins? I think so I says it in the off season that I thought the twins for two things one. I heal Cleveland was taken into division a bit for granted. I think everyone everyone's probably most people thought the. Island was gonna win that division. Cakewalk by the way, did still predict Cleveland to win the division. I thought it would be close. And I said, and I said many times I thought that the twins had a real non zero chance to contend for that division. They needed a little bit of luck things into their own guys. Get better and probably Cleveland, which we've talked about they were Cleveland was vulnerable. Also 'cause they were thin. They didn't address the outfield. They really were not in a good position to float a significant injury or step back from any of their top and starters, which is now already happened. I think that's created an opportunity for the twins to contend for that division title through the rest of the summer. And by the way, I I think the twins have seen a lot of that growth from players young players already on the roster. You look at Byron Buxton who looks like he's hurt all of last year. But this looks like the players he was for more than half the second half of the of twenty seventeen looks like max Kepler is taking a step forward. I think a lot of guys on that twins roster. Who always had the ability hadn't quite performed up to it are starting to do. So. And there's enough there for me to say, I think this is going this team's gonna win ninety games. And they're going to at least stay close that division lead. Well into September. Max freed after pitching on Sunday baseball against Cleveland and shutting down the Indians is a one point three eighty year. A this is four starts into this season. And yet after that game as my made my way back from Cleveland yesterday back home, I talked with evaluators that other teams who absolutely raved about what they saw on Sunday baseball from free. They talked about his fastball is curve ball. We mentioned on airy kinda reminds you of a young Clayton Kershaw with that combination. What do you think about max freed so far? Yeah. I'm a I'm a big fan. I've been a big fan poll long-time have linked highly as a prospect many times going back to the draft top one hundred. I I this is this might be better than I expected. But he's definitely something. I thought was was possible because I saw fastball velocity from him. I always liked his breaking ball. I thought curveball had chance to be plus made even better than that. He's always had a good change up. He is not had not used it as much because he worked in relief a bunch. So you tend to see that third pitch a little bit less. But it's there and it's good. It's more than just good enough to allow them to turn over a lineup. Multiple times the things I like most about three were one. He's an incredible athlete. And I thought that issues with just consistency in the delivery and getting to a consistent release point that he would be. He's better physically situated iron those things out with experience. And also knowing I have. Knickknacks before knowing him talking to people around him I in San Diego drafted him. And then later in Atlanta, knowing how smart he is. And what kind of worker he is that he would be able to learn that he would be able to make adjustments going forward. I think that you're you're seeing a lot of that. Now, the combination of the great athleticism and the work ethic and the ability to take in lessons that he's learning from that lens coaching staff from there are indeed guys that allow him to become Orlando him to become a better pitcher. And I think some someone Atlanta really needs because we talked about we have all talked about Atlanta's starting pitching depth. It's been tested in the early going and his emergence is probably going to be. It's one of the things that could save their shot at contention this year, given how some of the other stores who were expected to be in the rotation. Have struggled. All right. Thanks for doing this. Great to talk with you. My pleasure. Bleacher tweets, first, one of the day BUSTER from Doug half, cock and Doug half. Cock ninety nine could the Yankees injury curse. Actually ended up being a good thing if they can tread water until guys come back by August. All those guys will be much more rested than the other teams come playoff time since they won't people ain't one hundred and fifty plus games. Yeah. Luis Severino comes back. Yeah. He might have a fresh round and other starting pitchers and look is like Clint Frazier are getting opportunities to play in so far Frazier taking advantage of it. I think though, generally speaking Aaron Boone would rather have his all stars. But I get it. It's a great question. And it's a good point one would think let's get that Mukhi trade talk going again with this question from sterling. Astor ride Seventy-three BUSTER if Mukhi bets ends up on the trading block. Do you see the dodgers as a potential landing spot? They have the money. But what about the prospects? It would take to get the deal done. Yeah. Josh, I'm gonna leave this one for you. Because it was you and Carl really sparked is I say like they trading, and they are not trading Mookie in two thousand nineteen. Go ahead. What do you think? Where's it landing spot? The well, you you tell me what kind of farm system. The dodgers have move on. He's not being traded this summer. Come. Okay. You entertain it to BUSTER. Let's not get too revisionist. Kyle Bennett we'd go to the tape. Go to the data. Kyle underscore bending BUSTER. The cubs pitching got up to a very rough start. In fact, it was the worst ERA in baseball through the first seven games of the year. But the now the best Yar in baseball for the past eleven games, which is the true indicator of where this pitching staff is at top or bottom. I think they closer to the top. They've got some experience veterans than we said during that rough stretch early on that if they were going to have a turnaround they'd have to get turned around from the guys who are in their clubhouse. And that's what's happened. Eric E always brings great Bleacher tweets this one, no different. He's at SO teric Eric zero. Theoretically, if you were to hop in a time machine in fast forward five years, which club, would you be the least surprised to find is in the midst of a dynasty the Braves the Padres the raise or the Jays. All right. Josh I'm going to lead the witness on this one with some rhetorical questions. Okay. Who's in the same division is the raise in the blue. Jays the Red Sox and Yankees and Orioles to Egypt Egypt. They okay, I wasn't even thinking about the Orioles. Who's in the same division is the San Diego Padres, the dodgers, the Rockies Diamondbacks, and all you had to say was the dodgers superpowers. Okay. Teams a lot of money. So those teams. No, there will not be any dynasties for those teams. They land Braves. Yes. I could see them possibly being the dynasty among that group of four teams fair enough. What do you process of elimination? Finally, okay. Terry plunk knit at almost side. Terry of the Mariners hitters off to surprisingly hot starts, which one is set up to best sustain their production for the entire season Domingo's Santana, Daniel Vogel Bach. Tim Beckham or Ryan Healy. We talked about Santana and Beckham again talking with the Mariners staff they had great things to say about Beckham. And some things he was doing. And I I love to hear from the Mariners staff about how Santana uses advanced metrics and how he had a lot of questions they presented him with some information at the beginning of spring training. And that's not a surprise because he was coming from the brewers another team they use that sort of stuff it really feels like those two guys have some staying power. And it'd be better if they wore the Trident caps BUSTER. Thank you very much. I got that gift in the mail yesterday. Open it up nice box with a Mariners Trident cap in it that you told me you're going to get from me when you're in Seattle. Sure. Enough your your word came through. Thank you. Nice. It's we'd isn't it the driving? It's great. I was jealous. See here's the thing. Is that I thought about getting myself one, and I want him getting a different style. I brought to Mariners caps home other than the tridents. And I asked jacomb I'm like, hey, would you like one of these? And he said, yeah. And he took the one that I wanted. So I got three Mariners camping. I didn't even get the one. I wanted. I got my third choice. So I'm an idiot. Yeah. That's your fault. Buster you should you should have hit the one that you really wanted. And then giving Jacob to die. Now. I should have just got another one. Like, I got you. So I'm glad you got that well-earned. That's for sure I apologize. Absolutely. That's it for today. My thanks to Sarah Lancs. Bob Nightingale, the Keith law, Josh's macaroni and produced this podcast every day in the least some of those days will be in a Mariners cap. Have a great day everybody. Thanks for listening. 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Men in Blazers 08/19/20: WGFOP: The Bald
"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca. If. You listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC sports network. Wednesday. It. World back. Late show heart welcome back. Jerry is home warming to witness that Baluch smiling once again. In the Tottenham Hotspur Jersey, no less to about a human descent into madness from England's number wall. Tabun these drinks boy and I was that. In Kiev. Uric Twenty, twelve to witness the noise Joe disappeared into the upside down light ball. It was Italy England Coosa. The Euros. The Night Kim England, they've been terrible badly Hongo Olga and Joe. Hart should be said I could tell even from the press box how maniacal been for ninety minutes increasingly say through extra time just screaming bellowing ballboys and then into the penalties he decided to try and put off I don't know where the came from every single Italian shoot up by pulling what can only be described as can crazy like a Fox Mel Gibson. Lethal weapon faces. An Peleg just walked up. So casualties is if he was walking into one walked out to the penalty spot. Wrong. All match. It's Oh He's clicked they didn't a middle I'm the coolest player on the pitch stay that way. That is quite incredible. Killing later talked about this moment he said he decided in the spur of the moment to Penang Cajon Hall. In order to humiliate the England keep up and humiliate emitted to the extent nup dismay were really broken. PEP Guardiola did the rest than Joe Hall who had been Manchester? City's British face. Really. The face of the team, the fate of the England team, his confidence, his poise, his leadership just plummeted in confidence this career. Became a human story then one. Of A man who could never fathom his own sudden descent. and. It has. To someone who's always loft hautes tunnel antiques. Watching. homemake era of the era initally factory. 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We are so grateful to them for empowering men in Blazers to cover the Champions League and the Europa League and you can download the top rated Dr King Sports for now and use code M When you sign up for a limited time, we'll new users. We'll get a signing bonus of up to eight thousand dollars that's really drinking. Up to a thousand dollars just to coat. When you sign up on the drafting sportsbook here we go. Must be older nj a only this composer. Job, to five hundred dollars deposit required twenty five times. playthrough restrictions apply see drinks come sportsbook for details can link bubble call one, eight, hundred gambler or in Indiana. With it, but you should question you mark. Carlson I'm from me Dinah Minnesota I support Tottenham Hotspur's unfortunately it's a rough time for me. You know not really question about life but in a very important second question here. The only thing from this game? I now care about how many times to Tyler Adams make Neymar possession. anyways. Thank you and I love your podcast Casa L.. Minnesota Mellow just saying that word gives me cravings for Juicy Lucy Matt's bar. Felicitas Yo to Paris Angie man in called left Tyler Adams to his car crash into Neymar one of the few bright moments frivolously disappointing obey Leipzig strange semifinal game football between a French champion and they German aspirational for on one level. Really between a petrol fuelled state rub political nation washing marketing project funded by a country who tortures journalists, and as say, raft of human rights abuses on one hand and the team who are strategically just a marketing mechanism for sugary sports drink on the other modern football and all of its glory and all of its. And I will tell you one that game kicked off. I can't believe just how hard I changed for an energy drink marketing device. But it was not big. Leipzig's count oppressing game have to be perfect. And it was fall from it as if the moment overruled young inexperienced team for the first time, all tournament and the surprise have this. was how homogeneous PSG were as a collective, the return of Crossman de Maria. Take Leoni cleats and the burst of full adrenaline isn't by. Do them marching name or create for de. Maria. That second ago. That flick assist it was exquisite. Bob For me know filth is what it was but truth is. In previous rounds, name would try to control a bowl and she wide himself. To. While I have no doubt by a win this the new comfortably ruthlessly. PSG will have a chance on Sunday in the final that from three can summon the joy the confidence that collective belief. As FA- Tyler Adams more we he's had an indelible memory is created for all of us in. It's one. He will remember his entire life. He is a terrific prospect. His mentality is so right his leadership skills already evidence just twenty one and yesterday he became only the second American male to play Champions League semi final football after Damarcus Beasley back in two thousand and five democracy was only forty to them a WHO yesterday's. Experience gives me the strength to keep growing keep developing though I'll have to say this just two Americans in history have played in Champions League semifinals that is a real Syrian dominant involved development as a footballing nation. It just stays and I hope as you do no doubt that we will soon live in an age west. So many American have paid at that level. We cease to celebrate the feet it just becomes a normative. Until that. Let's revel in toilets. DEFLECTIONS heard round the world won't. Talk by Savak, Sarah Night Julia was behind it and he's got support. Pretty Slick to play. With the have deflection. School the cow. Which is On the verge of their champions, League semi final. Young American, International. flaxseeds chops is. Was it. Next question please rumbling new Paki My. Tell you what a year ago. Laura. Gary Neville called fat overweight. Well, I saw the fads fat man in the world. Blow by defensive line. And score five. Road. Come over I'm GONNA live. Among man. Hey, what. If I was at fat nap fast. Being different profession that y'all take care. Attack too. Big Shout out to check you look the way he just sat down. Let's go again. Lukaku America Big Rome. Dot Com. Love. Revered Everton is pace and his intelligent runs at defenders swooping down from the flank. Visceral or commerce scoring hugging Roberto Martinez. Yes, he left us at the time. Knew. He was too good for what was he doing with us and then we'll the good ones leave. Watch him, suffer, Manchester United they win the Saint Marina seeing such a joyful cerebral being heavy. So crush loses way plan a puddle of his own self confidence. It was was humanly devastating. So I am thrilled for Rome now bold Rome ten straight. You Re police game scoring incredible erected restarted I should say I. Now charging into Friday's final win to the first Italian season in which he's back. Thirty three goals is a delight to watch insure again. Also gene to take my Lord, I miss watching that man on the Premier League sideline weekend we count and the matchup against severe in the police final eight tournament, which severe all the Meryl Streep it's going to be a slice of magic reinforcing the tournament reputation in regards to the Champions League has the Greg sprinkles on the Tomasson they bring it on Europa League in the face out to do the. Thanks question. This is vinke Marsh Cohen from Manassas Virginia Arsenal and Washington spirit supporter. Here I've got a question or concern really How am I supposed to handle this Roselle going to Manchester City Is An arsenal fan I despise man city and their abilities is to buy been money and whoever whatever they want but in my required to follow the rules. But if I hate the men's team, do I also have to hate the women's team, my door Roosevelt, my favorite player in soccer, and so am I allowed to enjoy watching and route fourth Man City Women's team while still hitting the men's team. Thanks for the answer our courage. been. Chemo she'll old school jeff you've known to the world as one of America's earliest boomer friends how soon they figure that Benke has soon forget to question. Chester city. Let me be knocked out champions for less than twenty four hours when they announced Roosevelt signing a week after some US one year deals renewable. They are two of a number of players headed off on an adventure in search of playing time with Olympics frontier mind because the Olympics has a smallest scored just eighteen players rather than the twenty three that traveled to a wo- Cup makes every single. American. Plan fight harder grind heart want sharpen their stale to prove that worth. And to prove it why playing in a League scheduled to kick off September six while the NWF. Still plenty its next steps make sense and when you speak to these players. The day for them of stepping onto a field of play in the Champions League against the Lake Have Olympic Leona is particularly invigorating. This is about the money. It's about playing time. It's about new experiences. It's about challenging themselves as a person to grow on. The failed. So Godspeed to them Gotz Beatles. To Jeffrey pay. US off to Sweden counting down the days until waffle house opens in Gothenburg Sunday needs hashbrowns, his challenge Benke and it's a challenge for all American fans as he approached any of our burgeoning styles on bass, the men's and the women's aid as they play in. Europe. Teams, we love Olo Pulisic at Chelsea Antennae Robinson. He's poised to join Fulham today. Western, mckinney. If he joined Southampton why not Tim West than some US Roosevelt Lopes more more more will follow and I looked to history as my guide is has been so many predicaments and in this case pre state Israel. Ben Gurion I Israeli Prime, minister in waiting in the late thirties was asked because he was fighting the British occupying mandate powers in the Middle East and try to rescue as many Jews from the Nazis clutches as possible in Europe and he was seriously, would you find on the German sewing the second war because the British were presented or the British Lloyd because you know Nazis? Korean famously said, globally. Will fight the Nazis there was no British occupation. And domestically will fight the British who was if there was no second World War in Europe and that is how I fail about American talent. Playing in England Chair for the. As if there was no despising the club they play for. A while hating on their club as if there was no brilliant American prospering in their ranks and propelling them to glory. Thing it's called cognitive dissonance. A muscle I have to admit I rely on the told to get through almost everything in real life right now. Anyway. Stink please producer. Joanna. Come on cognitive dissonance. W. G.. O. P.. Crap Cat Wgn Four P. by Trade Jones Oh, a trade, you are TJ one loss question police maestro. Sean. Calling from the crab part of Queens. New. York. Longtime Spurs supporter and Leno Messy Faneuil. Now that he Barcelona collapsing the Of Blue and garnet rubble and the rumors that Messi will be moving on to a new project at Columbia potentially see the goat signing where. Thanks for your time. Out of him Dina Shoe Oh huge respect for the use of the word gone at. All BARSCELONA. Won't ask a cautionary tale game of thrones ask the board level the fight for power Mega Brenda off the failed has mended. The team is really just coasted and almost every aspect and that the sponge President Josip. Bartolomeo. The squatted rotted away not just in terms of the quality of the style plays the great ones PK, biscuit Suarez age worn down. News around them not supporting cast just less and less equality zero taste off rock says. Muslim Braithwaite Suzy Rebirth. But fame limb of. The look deeper not fame lemercier Academy it's been commercialized is lost its edge West the supply line. The B. 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Madison Keesler, Corps de Ballet, on The Little Mermaid
"<music> welcome San Francisco bally's meet the artist podcast in this episode. You'll hear artistic administrator. Emilia bear in conversation for station with Quarter Ballet Dancer Madison Kiesler. This episode was recorded on Saturday April twenty-seventh Twenty nineteen following a performance of John New Myers the little mermaid hope you enjoy hi. Everybody thank you for saying after today's performance at the Little Mermaid for our meet the artists my name's Amelia bear and I'm the Artistic Administrator San Francisco Ballet and I'm very pleased introduce Madison Kiesler cler who's in our quarterback L._A.. And she just did a quick change from the role of Princess Henriette and she's so to speak with us. Thank you very much for having me so a little bit. I know a little bit about you and then I'm going to let you elaborate <hes> <hes> but Madison came to study at San Francisco Ballet School when she was sixteen years old prior to that she studied at Pennsylvania Youth Ballet and join the company in two thousand and nine but I know you kind of had some really interesting opportunities on the way dancing with us and you've danced for some different international companies so do you WanNa tell us a little bit about that. Yeah sure yes so the bulk of my training was at central Pennsylvania Youth Ballet from the wonderful Marcio deliri- who actually unfortunately just passed away but I have heard to thank for my training and forgetting me here for sure so I spent one year with San Francisco Valley School and then I actually I worked with John Newmar so the choreographer of this valley when I was in San Francisco Ballet Ali school so my story with him is kind of a full circle experience and I ended up joining his company when I was seventeen so I started working than in Hamburg Germany with John Mayer and I was just there for one year here and then I ended up coming back and I I joined as an apprentice here with Cisco Ballet but about a month later I was put in the core because we were doing the Little Mermaid the first time and John wanted me to to do my same spot that I had always done which at that time was a little bridesmaid but because I was an apprentice contractually I couldn't do it so lucky for me. Hoagie said okay well then you could be a court so that part worked out great and I spent a great for years here learned a lot and then ended up going to English national ballet for four years and now I'm back here and I've been this my second year back and we're very happy to have her. I'll Adam and I'm happy to beat them so I'm just going to bring up the most exciting news that's happened for recently a couple of weeks ago in class healthy announce that following this season Madison was being promoted to a soloist gradually so could you tell us how that news field if it feels really surreal to be honest I think I still don't believe it so this is when I first came to San Francisco Valley School that was twelve years years ago now and I've been working professionally for eleven years so that's a long time to be standing in the Swan Lake core and Giselle Cor and a Cappella core dry ads and all of the full length and along the way I've also had amazing roles in soloist and principal parts and I've had a great career. I think you get to a certain point when you're not sure if it's ever going to happen that you might spend your whole career in the quarter Bali and that's a very honorable thing and there's many wonderful full dancers who do so. I've always been grateful for my career but for me the thing that I enjoyed the most is being able to dance on stage by myself with a partner be able to tell a story and at my own unique twist or I'm say something and while the quarterback is extremely important for the whole story. It's amazing to be an individual as well so I think that's the most exciting part is being able to kind of focus on me me a bit more than I have been able to in the past and I'm very grateful for the recognition and it's certainly well-deserved because you've danced some really big roles this season the given an opportunity to learn them and then ended up performing them beautifully beautifully. I have a few here you did. One of the principal couples in Benjamin Mel pays passionate Outta you perform Zena in Kathy Marson snow blind which is a huge character role very very intense emotional. <hes> you did some fairy in preseason sleeping beauty you did one of the big roles in Arthur pitas bjork ballet which was kind of wild and wonderful and now it's mermaid to any of these were they like a major standout hand out for you or any an incredible year. I like I said I feel very grateful. I acknowledged of course the work I put in but there are so many people in so many wonderful dancers in this company that I feel extremely fortunate that I was able to perform these roles as well as you know just be able to learn them but this time around really be able to perform I kind of before the season started I remember making a Dream List and writing them all down of roles that I would love have to do and it was phenomenal because that's pretty much everything you just listed and to see it really come true very powerful which one was like the one you're like. I really hope I can't do this. Well I have to say princess was at the top <hes> also because I've actually learned this part before so I I learned it nine years ago and I was probably nineteen or twenty then and at the end third cast as well. All and I never got to performance about two days before my performance. John Numer decided that the third cast wasn't quite ready so my entire cast got pulled out so of course the young dancer when I was about to do this big principal opportunity. I was very grateful to learn in it but it's still it's hard you get your hopes out then so I had a little bit of that nostalgic feeling when I came back to being able to learn this part again so to actually perform it felt like a nice full circle moment where I got to ticket off my list and get that experience and be able to perform it in front of you all which was great. It's really special you got to perform it and that is a harsh reality when it comes to learning these parts. It's always a great opportunity but yeah it sometimes. It's no one's fall. It's just timing or different things being in Poyser at times so this was a big one and then I have to say also Kathy Marston was a really nice role to dive into and I'm so grateful that kind of always seen me in the acting roles because it's it's what I love to do as well and so two able to portrays someone like the princess who's very very naive in some ways and then Zena was completely opposite. She's an older woman. She's a HYPOCHONDRIAC. She's no six so it's like playing night and day to be able to do that as an artist to step on stage and say how do I show those characters is really satisfying. Actually that brings me to a question. I was curious about those two roles in particular because they're both those based off characters in a story so I'm wondering how you prepare to take on a roll like that. Do you read the book. Do you like what's your process. Look like I definitely read the books I think finding whatever the original story is. He's really important because you learn so many different things looking at different versions of whether that's you know a painting or a book or music about it or whatever it might be. I think you can pick interesting things from from each but then also with Zena it was like thinking about well. Where would you be hurting and how and how do I feel so it's also taking your own life perspective in any acting role in trying to put something nothing very honest that you've felt into that character so that hopefully it comes across honestly to the audience as well cool very interesting question about all of those roles that you've got to do this year? Is You know some of them are really physically weekly challenging emotionally robust and you were doing all of this alongside all of your corals too because you're in the quarter Bali and so those are a lot of doing every show in some cases and sometimes they're very technique caddy while you're also doing these contemporary roles with that really mode like how is it balancing all of that it was it was tough this season not gonna lie to kind of balance it all and my body took a bit of a beating indifferent injuries which everyone deals with everyone in this company worked so hard. I'm regardless of what they're doing but they think Zeno was a good example where I would be doing this emotional role. I'd end the Bali crying and then I had two quick change Enj and do etudes core the black bar where he pretty much can't see my face and I have to try to work out perfect technique so to go from one extreme to the other. It was quite a challenge but that's also a beautiful thing about this company. Is We have a diverse rep up so I'd rather have to do it quickly than not be able to do it at all right great what we talked a lot about this last season switching gears slightly. I'm curious about what you're looking forward to so San Francisco ballet our companies about to leave even go to London to perform at Sadler's wells right after we closer season and then in the fall we're going to Copenhagen to perform Romeo and Juliet and then we've just announced next season so you know what sort of on the docket is there anything. You're really really excited. Batter looking forward to I always love Romeo and Juliet so that's always a favourite comeback and going to London will be wonderful because as I said earlier so I worked in lived there for four years so to be great to see friends and English National Ballet L._A.. Is the associate company of Sadler's wells so in a way that will feel like a different kind of homecoming and we're bringing a lot of really great bally's there and then next season yeah. There's some really great things I'm excited about midsummer night's dream balanchine's version because I don't think companies ever done this. It's been thirty six years thirty six years ago. They did it. I wasn't here. I've been here a long time but not that one yes. I'm very excited about out that it'll be nice job. It's coming back in the season as well. I'm curious about a jerome robins. Four Seasons actually don't know it extremely well so I'm excited to see what that's like <unk> for on that people doing <hes> Alexi Route Mosque's seasons so it'll be a new coq mission for us so we'll both learn about it together. Yeah no it'll be great and I'm also curious to hear about what projects you've been up to sort of outside the world of San Francisco Bay because they know that you're practicing artists and a lot of forms besides just dancing so tell us a little bit about like the art forms you care about what you've been working on sure yeah. I seem to always have a lot of different things going on on which is exciting. I been dating Benjamin Fremantle for about a year now but more and we have started our company of our own that is called Freely Mad Benjamin Fremantle Madison Kiesler and kind of we're calling it in all encompassing platform at the moment but we've put together some art galleries that we've shown out of our apartment. We have mainly been also creating films so we recently collaborated with breath James Franco's company who some of you know S._f.. Dance Works and we created four films that were played before each performance so someone described him as a visual program which I really liked so it was nice to be. Able to create artistically so I- film and do all the editing and Ben mainly does the directing with that and creative ideas and also helps with the editing so yeah we have a lot of different different things that we dive into and I also interested in singing and acting and modeling sometimes when there's time and just for fun so Audi you time I sometimes I do sometimes I don't but it's Ben Helps me organize that a bit stay cool. I'd love to hear about next is obviously made your journey back here to San Francisco and a lot of things seem to fall into place for you. mm-hmm your promotion here all of these projects going on outside of the theater and I just like to hear a little bit more about what is special for you about either this company or this city and what you've found here. It definitely feels like home. I thanks San Francisco Valley and this theater especially. There's always something that's really felt like home to me. I did grow up coming to the summer programs <hes> and then of course during the school but what Helgi been able to create for this company just phenomenal he really transformed it and we get to do so many new works as well as keep doing the classics which I think is so important and I love classical ballet as well as new recreations and so there's a really beautiful balance that he's been able to strike from year to year giving opportunities to different types of dancers as well because of the episode varied yeah. We're very fortunate to live in the city and we're very fortunate that we have such great audience members to we're not in New York or London where there's a ton of tourists coming in and out every day so the fans in the people that do come. We really feel that <hes> you guys support us so that's an amazing thing here. That's wonderful to hear something. I always liked to ask chancers is so we have a season. That's very I'm condemned so we begin our performance season in January and we go through May and it's kind of cool time of year when that starts when we move into the Opera House so our studios right across the street and then we also have come and I just love seeing the dancers set up the Opera House you'll have like you're studying on your laptop and a corner or whatever it is and I am very curious to hear what's special about spending so much time in a theater for you it I mean I spend more time here than I do it home during this time of the year so oh we do we make it our own home absolutely and I'm guilty 'cause I also I go to the leap program which is a wonderful program that is through Saint Mary's University that is geared specifically towards dancers so liberal Arts Education Education Nope I'm going to up that leap program and it's a guilty of having the laptop and my books and everything so in between a show today might grab some food and then study and becomes home and walking in to this. You just feel very lucky. I mean you can look around and this is my office. My workplace and I get to make a living doing what I love and don't take that for granted ever ever. I don't know how you have time to school on top of everything else in six days a week but power to you thank you so I'd actually love to open it up to a couple of audience questions. Does anyone have a question. They'd like to ask Madison. Listen cool. I'm just GONNA repeat the question for those of you who couldn't here so we have a question for Madison about the schedule of being a professional dancer and hours in studio and hours on stage performances and all of that that sort of one piece and then also were asking about how you delineate between the roles of like a core member and a soloist and a principal and like how those opportunities or purse out so in terms of our schedule it does depend on in what we're doing at the time today for example we had class late which was wonderful that about eleven thirty seven forty five and then we'll have to shows but that's probably an easier more straightforward day other days when when we have performances in the evening were usually be rehearsing pretty much all day long from class at ten o'clock and then usually until about five thirty sometimes depending on how many things your cast for for the upcoming programs programs so this past week we've been working on Shostakovich trilogy all throughout the day and then Performing Little Mermaid at night so it's it's a lot to to keep says a lot of steps in your head yes yeah it is doing your homework trying to remember because we mainly learned the bally's six months ago so during this time we're kind of expected that we need to remember something. That's not up to the ballot masters to do all of the remembering for us though they do a great job yes that's probably that and then in terms of the soloist principle I mean I think today was a good example so I'm I'm still in the quarter ballet but I got to do a principal role so I think it depends on the choreographer and they want to casper apart. It depends on the valley musters if they see someone for a role so it's not always black and white which I think is great and can give different people opportunities in different things any other questions alcon. This woman who I think this question is about the idea of how to access ballet. If maybe it wasn't the world world you grew up in which is the case for many of our ballet dancers but of course it's an art form that anyone anyone any age can engage with so. Do you have any words of wisdom in terms of if you want to learn more about ballet or actually practice steps and things like that yeah I think there it's great that dances. is becoming more accessible to different people misty. Copeland story is a great example where she started dancing at her boys and Girls Club just after school and someone discovered verge <unk> talent and suggested that she go to different ballet school but I think in terms of just general advice to there's there's so many things it's hard to to pick but I think think it's important and especially as you asked about women and girls. I think it's too not undervalue your strength to realize that it's okay to be proud of your work and that it's okay to want to push for more. I see that often in the dance world where particularly the women were were so good at following the directions and you know we're told to not speak in class and you just nod and over the years I've learned how important in vital that communication is because while we do join essentially as children when we start working we're expected to be adults and we need to not be afraid to say how we're feeling in a respectful way of course I but also expressed what we think we're good at what we think we need help with so finding that balance strengthen vulnerability is very important okay so I hope I'm understanding the first part of this question correctly but I believe that was about our open class that we had today for Bay Area Dance Week or it could even be about classes more general but the do all of the members of ballet class together the core and soloist and the principles that was the first part of the question. The second part is about you ever have to do to shows in a day which I know the answer to fiddle at you. Take that one in terms of Class A yes usually it's everybody apprentices core principles essentially whomever wants to take class contractually classes optional but we all kind of need it to get the day started and then in terms of dancing so today I did the princess but tonight fight all do well essentially one two three four different types of corals tonight. We'll be the and the passengers in the Tango and the wedding guests and so yeah it just because I performed this afternoon doesn't mean I get this evening off. Yeah going back to Madison the Senate really amazing job of trying to balance you know some more responsibilities this year but still being in the quarter Bali. I think it can take one more question so let me just repeat. Just make sure everyone knows what the question was. So Madison was born in Carlsbad California and the question is I think just elaborate a little bit more on your training and if you start at their yes so I was born there but I actually moved around a lot with my family and my mom who's actually in the audience. Today was lucky lucky to have her here and I've been very fortunate Senate that my both my parents really supported whatever I wanted to do really so I only lived in San Diego area until I was too and moved around a lot. I started dancing in Colorado Springs and I was doing all sorts of different things that are doing tap jazz and different sorts of dances essentially and Tennyson Violin my mom at some point said you know if you've had to pick one activity. What would it be an sure? It was hard to drive me around every single date different things and I said well I WANNA do valley and so it was kind of at that point as simple as that in my mom also danced a bit too so that was always a motivation and in my head but at the same time she never pushed me and it was always my choice which I think was really vital to nourish my love so I started in Colorado. Nancy Derby's dance went to work with Gehrmann. Damn well and Mark Carlson in the International Ballet School. Thing is what they're called now and moved over to central Pennsylvania ballet where my mom moved with me just so that I could train at that wonderful school. We have time for one more question. If someone has something burning question is that what age or even if you can be more specific moment meant. Did you know that you really wanted to become a professional ballet dancer. I it's hard to believe but it was amazingly young. I think the very moment my parents you and I we were all living in Florida and there wasn't really a good ballet school in Miami for kids my age I was about nine years old at the time and we I was going to the Washington Ballet Kirov Academy at the time and essentially my mom's said if you want to do this I will support you and we can move. If you want to do it you don't have to you can stay and go to school. We can figure out something and I a something in me. Apparently just I really wanted to. I really wanted to do it and luckily my mother was very knowledgeable that if I wanted to do it she knew I needed very good training in order to do do it. I was never someone who just naturally had beautiful perfect legs and feet for ballet or you know the right perfect aesthetic so I couldn't just get any type of training. I needed very good training in order to have a good career and so oh yeah basically around the age of nine or ten I wanted to do it all the time and at that point I went from doing a couple of classes a week to when I moved to Pennsylvania did about forty hours a week of training cool okay I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us and especially thank you to Madison Kiesler very being our special guests just a you all know. We do a lot of these M._t._a.'s throughout the performance season but we have A.
The Nat Coombs Show: Edge Rush #11
"Hello and welcome to the net cume. Show ed rush on. Espn in association. Way the bat fred. not combs per juicer. All in the house. Let's start with some controversial news. Ali that as recently as this morning on mike carlson legendary. Nfl capable cost. Of course a regular on the show. Can you to what or who this very morning. Yeah so workup. Thursday morning and the exact message i received was have you watched made chelsea really because i was watching. I saw clip on social media which is a complete lie. We know that he's made in chelsea. Yeah exactly how a made in chelsea all reality. Tv carlson is a big fan of that he was what made and chelsea chelsea is social media compatible to the car to sam which he said no offense but i took complete defense to well. I mean number of radiogenic points fussy. Go one hundred percent bang on. The money might call. I stumbled across this onto. Its might a massive m. i c. Fan sam show a little bit this or you know or is it. Maybe he was being complementary. You never know it's definitely this is definitely it. Is i think so. I don't think anyone wants to be compared to the carriage with chelsea realistic thing. That's beneficial for anyone or good for anyone's confidence but yeah well we keep it rolling. It's mark carlson. Has some bad takes has some good. Thanks let's just hope this one was about take. Yeah that's occasionally very rarely does have a bad take away from away from football until we get a made in chelsea cost. Member of the cost is on the show and then of course we lovable to the producing a yeah. Really fans. Not possible to three compared to actually. I'll tell you something. Massively i would suggest that you dig out. The jay cutler kristin cavallari reality series and find somebody on their random. Just pick up the first person you see the other of those two and say michael is watching the Whatever the seriously they jay cutler capillaries and your mommy of insert. Just throw it back for that. Grenade back out of dementia the real housewives of atlanta and find someone from a great big hats. All right. let's get down to business then. It is four team standing. Or how about that caught quite believe that it is almost two years since you and i and the gang in miami but we are here again we will know in what seventy two hours. Tom recording this. Who is going to be in super bowl. Fifty five to incredibly tough games to cover all kinds of different reasons. Let's get straight to it. Let's start with tampa bay buses green bay. Of course it is all about to the time. Great going out at once again. I bust out of interest. Nothing to do with the action gonna take nothing to do with the edge. But i'm curious as to your opinion on the perennial discussion of greatest of all time and specifically how important rings are in that conversation. Because i was on a show the other day i was asked this question context. Most people would agree. That rogers is the better all around athlete but brady of courses superhuman in terms of success. So wet rings factor for you. If roach is gonna put himself up to even close to the go chat. Does he have to land another one. Is it two more. Is it more than that. What's your take on it. Such an interesting debate. Because i think from an english perspective. We tend to put less emphasis on Championship zoll vitals. Or whatever you cooler in this country. Just because i think there's less it's not as special to win trophies because there are much more freely available in this country like there isn't just one championship that you can win. You could win several. And i think if you look at someone. Stephen gerald think people compare or people would think is one of the greatest midfielders full-time. He didn't win the premier league but he managed to win the champions league when the caught in spectacular fashion. So i think that's the reason why we accept. Fa cup much. It's a great tradition in history. As a west ham found. I would absolutely grabbed that with both hands west winning a cup not the same but point taken chap easily get there is there is on a level argue even even a high level turns into the league. So that's a really good point in america and i think this is where we have to sort of draw comparison for the point. I think is all about. Championships is all about rings. I think if you on a big fan of basketball as well the nba. As you know whenever. I watch sort of shaquille o'neal talking or any of the former players. All charles barkley. Who was an incredible player for the philadelphia. Seventy sixers and phoenix suns. All there ever gets brought up in the grand scheme of his career or in the context it career is how you never wanna ring ewing young. Exactly yeah there's several and john stockton several plans that you can look back on historically who definitely have their career tarnished by the fact they never want to ring and not. Gasoline is a major focus. And that's why. I would always have to lean towards brady just because he has beaten the fifth most and see teams in the playoffs despite the fact that he was playing in the afc pretty all of his career. So that means six of those wherein super bowl was which is absolutely incredible. I think you just as much as i think. I generally can be accepted orders. The best quarterback. I still think tom brady has to be. Because what in america is considered the peak and was considered. The most important in the primary objective is to win championships into win super bowls. And i honestly do think. I know davante adams came out earlier inside regardless of the rings. Rojas is to go and i think is it's a harsh pammy to measure people at because there's so much so much other things you have to put in context. Coaching oversee brady ballot. Check rojas mccarthy at the put them in the same sadly so as much as i think. It's incredibly harsh. Way of judging them. I think is the only way because of the way american sports is set up. It's water rumble on an on. And of course. I think this is particularly critical because it feels like green bay when you look at the context of the entire season the strongest team in the nfl. Now the strongest team in the nfl over. The course of the season doesn't always win often actually doesn't go on and win the super bowl so let's break this down going into this game. Tampa bay very much trending upwards generally going into this game as well. Even though the offense didn't really turn up against the saints brady didn't need to do. A huge amount in the air was very protective of the bull. they took care of business on the grab. I guess a lot of the reason why this line is closed. And all you'll you'll see that up but It is it is closer than maybe some people thought. It might be a few weeks back looking forward and projecting to potential championship. Games is what happened back earlier on in season right. So let's look at that. I relate defeat for green bay comprehensive for green bay by tampa bay. How important do you think that is in the bearing of this game bearing in mind. We've just seen the bucks. Take care of the saints and the saints. Shell out the bucks back in weeknight. Forget we won but back in week. Nine sir how much bearing you putting on that absolutely none at this point in time i have to say. I think those were to completely. I think situation that we saw there in is completely different. The one that we are going into this week it was by far and away. The packers offensive line performance. Ever since that day they have been probably one of the best if not the best offensive lines in football and rodgers really struggled under pressure that day they the buccaneers. Just blitzed him nonstop and he couldn't handle it. And since that day when facing the blitz he has thrown for fifteen touchdowns and only one interception and times that right and bacteria he's out so it's em- principle a depleted line and the rams couldn't get to him. Donna was banged up but as we talked about on the show earlier this week. One about hit no sacks right so this suggestion that the line is significantly diminished because of bacteria principal. Yes practice probably know right. I mean i think the the the rams will be with aaron donald at fifty percent. It's a pretty good litmus test dot degree of protection tells you everything needs to know about this packers offensive line. Yeah no definitely am. Also i think a lot of the questions that were being honest of green bay very much put into spotlight against the rams and they answered everything. All of the focus was on the secondary against aaron. Rodgers was against this defensive front against rogers and he owns it every question with a full full full. Stop on it. I mean he was absolutely brilliant. The hallway through davante adams the schemes. The mountain flow was writing for them. Allowed them to adams to get that spatial. Jalen ramsey score touchdowns have nine catches. I know you anyone. Sixty six yards but nine catches just showed the kind of separation. He was getting they utilize allen lazard a lot more in the passing game than they have in previous weeks. Because all the focus wasn't devante adams and potentially stopping about scranton getting in over the top which nearly one hundred yards and abc's school pretty much the game sealing touchdown i think green bay have options now. Everyone's always talked about the fact that aaron rodgers they didn't take a wide receiver in the draft. They took jordan love. I think it's been confirmed that he definitely utilize that for motivation throughout the season. And we've seen rojas mostly when his third mvp. And i don't see him stopping here. I don't think this box defense is anywhere. Close to what the rams defense was. And he's got options robert twenty nine hundred eleven touchdowns year about a scrambling has got the most yards after catch or the highest average of y'all dr catch of any receiver in the nfl island lozad could contribute when necessary not only in the receiving game also in the blocking game. He is very much ironwood. Just safety blanket fence is absolutely rolling. And i think it's gonna take something special for the tampa bay buccaneers to stop an rogers but at the same time even though vita is likely he might return which is huge for them for the grand scheme of things in terms of being able to create pressure on rogers. I think that green bag gonna quite comfortably school. Oh yeah and of course. We're gonna get into the weather credit before i get into this weather lead with iraq. I'm so sorry i'm so. Sorry i'm sorry. I'm just mistake. It's ridiculously called him. Really snotty both that exactly my job as a weather. Man is in the point. Ideally i think we should wheel the wheel aiden into yet. Maybe the the other shows during the week because you could just kind of drop in. Let's say that we could so we'll be talking next season. They were talking baz versus washington football team and at soldier field in december. We could break the game down. Mitch trubisky for your best quotes about just a project and we could throw to with the weather and you can give it an old ten fifteen second weather report. I like that. there's not a demotion podcast. Think about it you know. Espn galaxy espn talent. Rocks up on different shows kind of just kind of feel like it's an extra spot. No it's fine. Yeah it's just an extra strength but yeah it's just an even in the context of snow likely being present during this game i think when we loss orlando failed in snowy conditions we saw davante adams go absolutely off one hundred and forty two yards and three touchdowns against the titans which is incredible and just demonstrates the fight. I don't think the snow is going to be a problem. For aaron rodgers going into this game and i expect them to score at least twenty five points in this match up against box defense just because of the former in right now just because of how composed rojas tree in his garden. It's so true effortless and it just feels effortless and elect both teams that we said the bucks of the ground game lent on that more props to four net for coming back again and with ronald jones. That's an interesting tandem. But then that's equal radio when you look at. The pack is very grounded so our jobs is obviously the lead back there but the goal range. They've got that got committee rolling there as well. Five point eight yards per carry. They averaged against the rams rights and and if there was a someone described this perfectly the pack is against the rams offensive was such a patient performance. It was just totally composed and controlled as it has been for most season season. Almost most of the season it is interesting. I think what happens with adams. You mentioned the rams game and jalen ramsey only matching up against three times. I very clever and shrewd in the way. They moved him around. I necessarily have the same concern. They don't have walls. The tampa secondary is strong. It is not the same lightsout corner in the way that the rams do so be interesting to see what happens that a flip side of that the depot looking at one of my favorite subjects. Tom brady and the deep ball one of the stats. That jumped out at me. Brady averaging nine point. Oh eight yards per attempt attempt topping the league so okay misfire quite a few of them but that this suggestion that he doesn't have the people you can look at this in two ways. Does he have the arm strength. Quite clearly right all the looking to use that retain that in this new-look areas brady offense. Compared to last year absolutely has he misfired during chunk of the season on those absolutely as well but that has got more more fluent and as a result that is a really really key of this offense that green bay matches up well against zyrtec saunder sexually strong in terms of defending deep balls so even if tampa established a run. Which i think they will. I think they'll follow sutin. Look to get those two for nat jones tag teaming. Getting control of the clock they can. And then not dissimilar. Lisa a how the packers went about being the rams and then when when the shots there take it sucker punch so you know. I've been a big fan of brady. In the bucks'll season-long i'd certainly was vocal defender of them when everybody was piling early and saying how starting they looked at at this functional that they Seem to be with the stars and none of them gelling just saying look. Patients patients patients that they show be enough early season to to to make me think that it was gonna come together and absolute has so. I think i've been one of the staunchest support a box team feeling. It could go away and here. They are in the championship. Game doesn't surprise me and to your point. The defense really really composed and strong so a good balance site. I just think they met their match. I think this comes down to a very good team coming up against an excellent and certainly a quarterback who is in arguably the form of his career and is looking apps that you're rootless. I can't see any way pasta and roaches in this game. I think the pack is take an interesting. Let's get into the line. I think the line is currently green bay for three and a half on bet fred and the over under fifty one and a half. The line has been going back and forth from three and a half to three two and a half. I think that's what you're going to see in a game that is going to be as tightly contested as this or when you have two teams as is this a lot of people who might be some money coming in on tampa bay just purely based on the fact that it's tom brady and the playoffs and digits record in these situations think he's something like i think he's got one of the best records covering the spread is an on thing is north of seventy percents of the time he covers and i think the most interesting about this is that line. Three and a half. I think you'll see a lot of people seeing value on tampa bay. It's at three and a half. Whereas i think if it goes down two and a half. I think you'll see people piling in on green bay just because of the nature of that three point line and the likelihood that this is close i mean. Green bay is eleven. And just that on that line. That i mean that is we've always said and maybe this season it go look at it in slightly different times but three point line three Three point is essentially saying this is if this is played on a neutral on neutral ground right so out of neutral stadium so in other words if you played this soldier field than this this pick can't separate between these two teams and i'm not just by the study and he goes to two and a half even even most are just. Don't buy that. Was i do really really buy into this bucks team. And i think if the cosby dealt differently You know that and it was any other team. I think apart from green bay in this championship game i would be leaning towards tampa bay but the way rojas is playing the way it was so ruthless against the rams and particularly offensive against the rams respective what they managed to take care of defensively. I'd craze back against brady in the playoffs right now in my mind even crazy. It's back against rogers in this full in the playoffs. Do you think nat considering the all of the research statistics In the grand scheme of things. Lean towards green bay covering here and as greg brady said on all review earlier in the week. He said that he expected the line. Touched be bigger than this. The the green bay thing been by far and away the best team in the nfc this season. Do you think trap. No i think the way you talk about the money coming in the line switching. No i don't. I don't i think a lot of people are going to be king on that. Thirty eight ten defeat and leveraging that and maybe it is maybe issue side. Maybe that's where the trump is to over. Uh under under state under react to that. It's the game. We're going to get into this game on our review. She's probably about the time. You're listening to this. Greg rosenthal phoebe to joining us for that. We're going to get into that game. It's certainly a question. I'll ask greg rosenthal. How much should we concentrate on that because it was the as you said. The manner in which tampa bay beat them on the pro tamper in this game. You're saying well look they. They managed to create damage and work at ways of breaking through that line. Pressurizing rojas when no other front has had similar success and put together a complete game that bodes well for them to have a chance of doing it again. The flip side is that the the packers would have learned a lot about how that was done. Negate that right which is which is standard logic right. Yeah escape with teams. Walk each other out. They've got more. They've met each other and of being of being caught than once bitten twice shy. So and everything everything everything that we've seen since that game has lent towards seeing. That one is an anomaly. Realistically i mean that was the town's first game back after injury. He certainly didn't like you had the burst. The pasty has done or the sort of jilted the has done since the rest season which seen basically prove himself as a number one wide receiver. This year didn't have outta missold again. I said earlier on as an were just safety. Blanket both in terms of the passing game and in the polls protection game and the run blocking game he is he can do everything he is that utility player so i am yeah similarly to you. I just think that green bay are the better team here. And i expect them to cover the spread and i spent a lot of points and it's going to take something special from brady to counteract that conscious question. Who do you think has been brady's top receiver in the postseason haven't looked at. This tells a total yardage scotty miller subject. I'm just every every compensates. Love scotty miller. We don't just like every time miller played. Scotty miller a lot. They love ridiculous. He's a great player. But i'm i wou gosh there's a trick question. I know that the way the we talked about this on the podium with gregg the big names were shut down in the last game. I think what was the stock between grown could evans a golden average. They totalled sixty yards camera. Bright is prejudiced covered. Bright bright bright. He's talked receiver in the postseason with catches for one hundred thirty yards on eleven targets. So that's one area that you could potentially see the bay exploiting green. Bay's just interested hughley the flexibility on offense and how deep they are on offense. That's the thing. They just has an incredible amount of targets. So that's the only thing that you could see which again okay and this is why it's coming into next play. Which is the idea that if you look at it. I know it's going to be snowy. Conditions are going to be tough. But you go to quarterbacks. You told me earlier in the week. Not brady's very very comfortable playing an incredibly cold conditions from what you had to experience and folks sped before hoffa. Where's this game is earlier so it's fine. This is the game show. A fine worried about tom. Brady is going to be rolling so actually on that front. The over the over fifty one and a half. I just think that you've got to the best quarterbacks in the history of the game going head-to-head they haven't had the opportunity to do this march and it's on a massive stage. I think the weapons that got around them. I think that the offensive line that both teams have both of them being all the teams playing this weekend or in the top five offensive teams in the league. I think there's no doubt about that. And i think this is going to be an offensive weekend despite what the weather conditions are saying just because of how special these players on offense Over to i to fly back to ten minutes ago. Check the weather because there's a difference between frisky frozen tundra torrential snow but on the basis that it isn't ridiculously absurd cold weather. Then yeah the. I think they will. They will land blows. Dekalb brady out. I think the key thing here. It's a point that we've made a few times. I think on the show this season. Tom's of optics. Id think this box offense suffers from that in in the twenty twenty one that this style of offense arians runs although these devastating deep strikes when they land. that's no doubt it is highlight. Reel stuffing as you pointed out. They've got this. All star cast very different to the packers really when you look up near name for name and stock them up. It's davante adams and essentially an aaron jones and essentially everybody else right whereas this box side is is built with household names. Every way you look. But i think the i think they suffer in terms of criticism from the because they're not this jet sweep eight plays in motion before this not craziness because they are quite unreconstructed. In that way you know. And i think it's easy to underestimate them. I think a lot of teams a lot of fans other other people did underestimate them and quite clearly you look at where antonio brown whatever you feel about him being evacuated in the nfl or not on the field. He is getting stronger stronger every week. Grunk having beat the game for so long is getting stronger every week. Not not just in terms of what he's doing productivity offensively but all of its blocking assignments and stopped made such a complete tight end. He's getting stronger stronger for now is getting better and better so this is demonstrably offenses getting better times at the idea that they are gonna turn up. Their lights knocked out by green biting not buying. Now i think they keep close. They sutton the brady goes out swinging but in the end the composure and the clinical complete nature of this packers team. I can't see any way that a that. They lose this overstating it. But i would be very surprised if if they lose this and three two and a half all day three three and a half i still go with a couple of pro pets quickly for you just My biggest issue going i. This is the thing my biggest issue. This week is the fact that i can't lose money on mark andrews this any if there's any way the loophole in the system or aspect fred if compel mall kinds used to be mentioned in a broadcast or something just so i can continue my horrific run of backing mark andrews but once you see if try message to the bucks locker room see if off time. They'll just stick some tape on camera rates so really badly style andrews on his shirt's might get away without. This show is brought me a lot of clout now as you can imagine enough to be able to contact tampa tampa bay buccaneers and get them to break. The rules are not that far one person who let you just mentioned him on getting playoff lenny to have a big game leonard. Fournette packers allowed the most yards and the third highest yards per targets running backs in the passing game. This season and i think that has been established as any running back in the postseason so far as that receiving backfield absolutely expect. I expect tom brady to export much. C- cans. I'd like him to go for his over receiving outage. They also allowed a lot of yards. Tacoma because generally speaking on the ground as well and i think the the tampa bay of running game is actually probably just about superior to the rams one so i spent on a phone is potentially a big game overall and potentially score touchdown in with the balanced ronald jones. We'll see how they split. The carries that davante adams as i said i think when it comes to snow conditions. I think that rojas likes to go to his primary target as much as possible. I don't think adams realistically has anyone who can match up against him. Potentially colton davis on the other side by realized onto adams in this game and the other one is one area that we have seen tampa bay struggle. All season is against false receivers. No more evidence than against the chiefs who atari kill went for four thousand yards and nineteen touchdowns in first half in that game and close. Close you approximate those about georgia fifty yards and three touchdowns. I think i think that was more. So what the numbers were so. I expect markets discounting scuttling realistically was relatively quiet last week against the rams but that's largely because of how strong their secondary is an especially if all the focus is going to be on devante adams. He's definitely gonna get space. Now failed so i expect. Marcus valdes scantling to have a big game as well. When it comes to marcus scantling. The line is too big so all it takes. Is that one big player. that's why like it. yeah. I like that. I like with you. One hundred percent on atoms. I think he'd goes off. I think he goes what's going to cementing my Just to be clear just for the record box fans out there. Retract a retracted very quickly. When i said. I see eddie way. That is of course. Of course. you've got. Very serious sean. We've demonstrated wide on preview. Pot as well and greg rosenthal give you his ten cents on that too but yet rogers and the over i think are strong plays or the packers in the over to be precise from what about the afc championship game. Then let's start with where the line is hero so this has been fascinating because obviously the line is basically moving as the reports of mahomes injury release so has gone down to chiefs one and a half favorites. I think at one point it was even buffalo is like a picture because they thought it was going to be playing next week or they didn't actually have any confirmation that mahomes who's going to even be close to coming back but now the line. As it was reported that mahomes was a full participant practice despite still being a concussion. Protocol line has now moved on bedford to three and a half point favorites to kansas city. The over undistorted at fifty five and that has also moved down as a result of the fact that people are not one hundred percent. Sure that patrick mahomes is playing the not sure how many points chat handy can put up despite being arguably putting on one of the greatest final moments in playoff history. Well he did last week. Like i think he should be strong contention for the next president of the united states after he managed to show they say should be on the ticket. I think in four years. I love and he did. I love those stories. When he had a cup of coffee in at least a few riley and his career as a starter but never quite made the and then bounced into backups. Ville and you see these players so many of them right look at now god. Yeah he was talking six years ago and this guy and and those ones that have some kind of some kinda run particularly championship team right. So if you'll a backup like that and you team wins the super bowl. Byu can tell yourself while i was an instrumental paul of training. And we'd never get here. And i was helping you know this and that and you know i was i was pointing out stuff and seriousness. Collaborative effort liquor. That quarterback of backups. Do you have a role to play in terms of the success on the field even if on the field. But there's no doubt about it that if the chiefs gonna win the super bowl hair. I've so made up fatty. You'll be looking at reagan thinking. Yeah i on this. This re definitely definitely. I think maybe they should even be a statue and other nick. Foles peterson loved the idea. And if the she still go with it and the chief's fan of dogo sorted. I think we start the campaign right here on address. I think that's the. I love that idea to get something. Maybe we could commission that guy that did the statue of cristiano renaldo. Maybe we could see if he's if he's busy but we could selflessly donate a really awkwardly bates statue of chat headed to the cat city chiefs. Love the right so like the nfc championship game. You got to at least take a look. What and earlier in the season when the to with talking about my hoses fitness which is quite clearly instrumental into which way we think games although the key to find out how instrumental your is just move aside from homes for a minute the other player that i think not enough people necessary talking about. Maybe because it's looking less rather than more likely that they'll play. But clyde edwards helaire has been on course for a while in that game one hundred sixty one yards six point two yards per carry an icky deep dive a little bit more into their game plan. We're seeing a bit of a trend. Here in terms of how kansas city beat buffalo trend in in comparison said the first two teams have been talking about how they've got here buffalo in that game. We're gonna take out the deep threat we're going to. That's the first we're gonna. We're gonna make sure they don't let any strikes any mahomes to hill. Eighty one yard is knockout blows that they are want to do which means they played soft zone. They're playing to deep safeties right and that is a dangerous game to play against kansas city. Because as i mike told us on our show very recently you look the ballot game. Plan taking out patrick. Mahomes you take out calcium those those routes across the middle and those sweeping across the middle. That is one way can if you take out. The middle lanes can get difficult one of the ways right so if you're playing the way. Buffalo did against them. that's a risk but also of course. I picked up the run. Come on take on the ground. The perception being kansas city didn't have strong enough ground to necessarily do that. It was a went off. So i think the injury of is obviously the most important part of this game but a close second edwards helaire close. Thud close third watkins. Right right i think sammy. Watkins is a key component to this chiefs offense to take them to that next level of out him. That's still an elite offense and one of the offense in the league. But i think when they add sammy watkins into the mix. I think that's what takes them to announce the stratosphere like i think they're just sensational because of if you do try and take what they're likely to do. The bills used their linebackers in milan and florence. Takeaway kelsey yet. I think today whites was he going to be on tyreek hill which looks like a good match up in places for the bills. Of how great davis. Why is cornerback the same time. I don't think he's quick enough to stay atari. I think they're going to put more attention on him from the cornerbacks. And that's just going to open up the slots for sammy watkins to have a big game and i think especially what daylights do even if mahomes seventy five percent or fifty percent of whatever he is when he does play author does play. They are going to want to protect him as much as they can. Which is going to lead to sort of more quick throws down the middle on throws shorter gains. And i think that's why sammy watkins will come into his naturally by a pivotal role in this game. And of course we love a return game. We love. He's got reason doesn't come against the bills. Yeah exactly it's going to be entertaining. So that's another one. The injury report. Let's for the county chiefs folks all now. I want to get the latest on. The state is formula. We're recording this for the record thursday afternoon you mentioned matt milano annot you'll love a stop in fact more than that you are professorial when it comes to stats as we all season. Long straight off the record pretty much straight through on the obviously getting some kind of sleet A bit of rest occasionally effort. Some fresh at all of us doing is walking through stats. Twenty four seven just day to day to everybody. So he's going to chuck on the the prop open Mentioned lotta and serious studying. He was missing the game right. Group crucial crucial return for him for the reasons you eruditely outlined but the bills at twelve and when matt milano plays twelve and when matt milano plays right so just take that take that step and also we're looking at that also. Looking at the game they played earlier. In the season the bulls were bind up left right and center. I think that's one in the same way. I don't think you can take too much into consideration from the match. Matchup between the bucks and the packers. I don't think you can look at the game. We saw between the bills and the chiefs and take too much going into this one either realistically. So mahomes we think is gonna play right. I'd be amazed at times. Didn't play yeah. i'll be of mahomes. Didn't play so sammy. Watkins is with limited practice on wednesday. Thursday hasn't come out yet so again could be game time. Decision similar edwards helaire limited practice. I like the chances of both plan just because it is the playoffs and like incredibly keen to get out on the failed but the other two injury. Actually this week is probably one of the most interesting and important aspects of this game. The other two players are limited practice on wednesday or rashad fenton and bushrod breeland two cornerbacks. They're going against one of the best policy teams in the league. Full stop brilliant on two of the top cornerbacks. Who's been in brilliant form this season nor coincidence that we had to him. I discovered of just saying that nobody was really that it should talk. Show bring the. We spent a long time with him and his career is just this ever since this shows book to just throwing that out there as well great point i mean undoubtedly and in particular i guess because the the weekly that everybody has indelibly inc on their brain. Now whatever you think about the kansas city defense. They can't stop the run but it's not strong suit the bills self-evidently right now. That could be the exactly. The kind of matchup people are downplaying. The blows up and not obviously because of josh allens ability in that respect but i think that is important. But it wouldn't. Would it be the craziest thing if everybody's at that. What do you think the bills are going to get any ground game. Going in in the gamaleya this season they certainly didn't three point seven yards per carry in that game if singletary went off and how to one hundred and forty yards and averaged five point carry. Stranger things have happened. So i guess what i'm trying to say is you can look at those matches matchups and think. Well this is a weakling for the chiefs but the bills call really exploited. I think is patronizing to the ground. Game it's not great but it doesn't mean that on any given day play singletary's caliber and a line of the bills caliber colt make that work. And i wonder whether deba look to that and thinks you know what let sucker punch them a bit. Let's lead with the ground game. Let's let's establish that. Let's get some motion momentum going emotion going there because it's what people would least expect them to do. I guess where the report to be ridiculously windy and rainy. Another report appreciate more horrible technical. Everytime wanna go into degrees celsius blah blah blah and. I'm going to tell you. There's probably gonna be writing and windy with a windy which doesn't facilitate eve The strong points of these two teams in the passing game but what it does do is both teams off notoriously you know very good against iran being that weakness season chiefs ranked twenty eighth in run defense efficiency. And as you said. I don't think we can rule out the idea that the bills run game gets going. But i don't see it if it does get going going single tree. I i it going with josh allen. I think people underestimate how good your shot is with his legs. Four hundred twenty rushing yards on one hundred two carries with eight touchdowns averaging twenty six point three yards per game and i expect them to for him to utilize his legs a lot in this game. Especially if as we know is to take away the biggest offense will be the deep pasta digs. He will try his best to take waste fund digs and if they're going with those full wide receiver sets. Josh allen will have space to move the ball and run with expect him to have success. That and i think that could be a critical part this game especially if it is windy and rainy as they are expecting it to be love that love the analysis in yeah of course bags as we well know from offering. Oc in The success that they had with the new york giants that was their mo. Of course taken down a out belichick belichick. Didn't he on more than one occasion. Right which waleed. So i think obviously as a i think if we take into consideration mahomes is going to play. I think we're all expecting him to play with tele plays that. Although let's not right. Dr williams he made some big plays important times against brown. So clyde edwards doesn't play as the unnecessary the end of the world. But i am leaning towards the kansas city chiefs. Here i know the defending super bowl champs have failed to cover the spread in nine straight games that is outrageous have won eleven of their past twelve and the one which they lost with against the chargers which had hands short. You can count that with a loss on the chiefs one by more than six points on november the us against the jets so despite that i think as i've told you throughout the season people are saying that this chiefs unnecessary i view of a wayside as well because the chiefs on blowing teams out and throwing ridiculous policies and making ridiculous plays the whole time that it means that. They're not as good as they were last year. I think the thing about this. Kansas chiefs team is day. Just do what they have to win. And that's what they have done all year. That's why they're not necessarily covering spreads but i've never really felt when i've watched kansas city that they've ever really been in that much trouble from the. They lost to the raiders with that in mind when they paid the bucks only one by three points but game was never in question right. Dolphins nonni one by. What was it six points five points and that was just because don't cover. The dolphins had in the last minute. I think this team when they have mahomes under center know exactly what they need to do to win the game. And i think they have the capacity to here. I think the buffalo bills are just going to struggle on defense. I think everyone's high on them. You know what i always say. Buy low sell high nine. Everyone is so high on this bills defense but that was some pretty special circumstances what we saw last week with what the ravens did. And if they didn't throw that pick sex. Which i think was paul passed but it was a great player by the bills. Defense than it could have been a much closer game and also. I just think that it's going to be able to in josh allen hair to put up points. I don't think we've seen the best of joshua watered-down down josh allen. In the past two weeks it has looked a little bit like a rabbit. Cohen headlights and get to see much improvement from him. If he's going to go toe to toe this. Kansas city team for this bills defense to keep kansas city under thirty points with weather in mind if record obviously that slightly different but for the buffalo bills to effectively score more points city team to school even within four points to this kansas city team. I think it's going to be very very tough. Just because of how many options this chiefs team have going forward. And just because they andy reid and patrick mahomes who had just an incredible combination. And i just don't hang against them. Yeah i puff acc- summation top it. Suffice to say. I'm with you on that as well when it comes to the crunch at obviously on the assumption that mahomes doesn't just start but but looks right and we haven't mentioned the turf which has been downplayed this week but that is a that can be a really really tricky injury right and That no one seems to be worried about it. So maybe maybe is nothing and but again maybe that is being deliberately downplayed. But let's assume the moms is close to full pelt. Yeah it's that time we've seen already in his brief but brilliant career time and time again and this is this is the kind of game that mahomes rebels at a not to say josh allen. Can't we don't know yet. It's the biggest game of his career right and everything he has shown us this season demonstrates that he has changed demonstrably as a as a player. In what can achieve deliver on the field but also mentally as as a quarterback he seems to be leading this team. And i don't think he's ever been favorable kind of play like came into the nfl's rookie roar and gangly in a very Very hit and miss but he's always had them moxie right. He does seem He's he's a famous kind of play. Us audit these necessarily bottling that respects and there are other quebec's i think you think okay in a game like this. The scale of a impression particularly it's tight that they could bend right and baker mayfield credit to him. Because i felt for a long time. He was that kind of player and he's shut up on that front. Think allen is going to be phased by but i do think that mahomes just like roaches has the edge. I think he has the edge. And i'm saying rojas has the edge of a brady this season with the offense that he has for that matter the defense he has around him in that game not that he has the edge ever brady every time and the same thing here. I think the mahomes has i am this chiefs. Offense has more about it again on the basis that that majority of fit. And your great point. You make about sammy. Watkins edwards helaire short. I think still get something going there. But they'll be in much better shape if he is playing. I i have to go home and the chiefs as well. But where are you on the over on this on this. Is i suppose you quickly before we came on a and basically said i feel like i'm falling into a massive trap because in both situations i'm taking the favourite with the points and the over which i think is oversee. The more is the obvious play in a scenario. But i genuinely can't see this game being low scoring again with weather conceded to ranked offenses in the regular season bias pin. They combined total of nearly thirteen thousand yards of offense averaging twenty nine plus points per game. They are elite and i think they have the capability to take advantage of the weaknesses in the opposition defences. I think one prop bet that. I'll be looking forward looking to play with beasley over yardage and potentially score touchdowns just purely based the matchup like i think where the chiefs a week on. The defensive side of the ball was slot and didn't have a big game people. Blame it on the injury. But i think that was just because he was gone. Coming up against one of the best cornerbacks in the game in modern humphry. My don't think the chiefs especially looking. There might be a little bit. Banged up even compare to what the baltimore have in their secondary with marlon humphrey so easy to exploit them in the middle. They caught him well. I think bill's funds sudden beasley on third downs. You just straight kobe's every time. And he seems to always get just enough yards like how small that guy is absolutely incredible. And i expect him to have success. I think stefan digs is going to have a big game. He's had a big. He's a big games all year. He thinks digs slow down. He doesn't run very very well. An expected to have a big game but at the same time on the other side of the bullets. Patrick mahomes in this chiefs. Offense just has so many options andy reid cooling the place like i just don't see despite the only thing is if it's too windy throw the ball. Obviously that changes the game. Or the chief ron the ron completely and just exploit that and means that the clock runs down. Those are the only possible situations where i see this. Not going over fifty three and a half. But i i think if i was going to think the chiefs have the edge there as well. Yes i do see but it's just the over under become to below question thing but for team points totals kansas city at twenty six and a half. I love that. Yeah right this under twenty seven dollars and even buffalo twenty five and a half that as well. Yes worth look definitely like i. Just think everything. These are two of the best offenses in football. I'm expecting both games. Actually interestingly to to be high scoring and to see. Therefore the best quarterbacks in the game and i expect us to and the best thing the most exciting thing about this bill chiefs game in the offense is is they. I think that a two best. Okay maybe top three five quarterbacks when the play breaks down yes you. Everything collapsed josh allen. Patrick mahomes of those two quarterbacks you can see making play slow roaches. Yoda say rogers. Yeah what's russell wilson. Yeah exactly does you know that those are the top five. Yeah seeing those two and josh shannon's be one of the best at this season seeing. That makes her a really really compelling an exciting game and i really josh allen turns up for this game we have. There's no way he can do what he did against the ravens or the colts and win this game. I don't think played very well. But i think he's gonna have to go north three know on top form. Yeah is use it. I caught the chief. Start with your found the under now that as well. I very much with you now. We've talked it through and as listeners will know that you and i noticed up paxton ford's a long often change on my off during the show. Actually we gotta get to the right place in the ended. Let's face it. We've had a good run this season right. We've but we've made. Some mistakes landed a lot as well and i think some weeks. We've had more conviction than others for that. And this week i have to say i feel strong about about the the picks in terms of the teams with the points as well and i like the over and the only obvious asterix's to add to that i think we've covered pretty clearly self-evidently and whether if it's getting ridiculous that you might want to wait for an in game play with with the weather. Even in game play within reason with muhoza the danger there of course if he's fine and they strike easily then. There won't be much much. Choose remaining caution with that. I'd have to say it was while i was actually watching the lines. Because that's the majority of casualties a betting on sunday night. Let's be honest. I think it's the people who tend to take a little bit more seriously. Oh back themselves a little bit more. We'll be looking at the lines earlier in the week. And kind of judging from that point and i noticed last week that the tampa bay new orleans saints over under shot up when one and a half to fifty three and a half just before game and people people both those games by the poll tax plans gains concentrate on. I want to know about these. Lean towards the over yet. No doubt about that so we tend to go a little bit earlier. If you can get off. I liked that we have of course because we've only got two games but we do have a double free. This changelings up a bit so the edge rush championship double of the week. And we're talking here. Forget the points. Take teams straight up. Starting with the green bay packers over the tampa. Bay buccaneers aaron rodgers. Mvp not in any kind of wall. We're big on the bucks on this show and year. Think you'd be crazy if it's a back against tom brady a situation like this. That clinical the green bay packers. I'm not buying into what happened in the season. The team to beat them heavily. Been the bucks. So we're taking green bay straight up that and the second part of our money on double. We are taking the tampa bay buccaneers to win by twenty five points. Buffalo bills five is zero that the tampa bay buccaneers now. Of course we are going to kansas city chiefs understanding the Mahomes is going to play over this injury keeping on at essen key names on it but considering the playoffs considering if the conference championship game i expect him to do what they can get that key players on the failed and when they all the chiefs are simply too good there. Twenty three and one in the last twenty four games. That mahomes has started is absolutely sensational. And yes they haven't been blowing teams out this year not not by any stretch of the imagination but at the same time they never they're gonna lose games. They always come on come out trump's when they need a big clown defense they get it from tarmac to you when they need a big found offense just night many of their offensive players know. Probably bring you a big play. So i am going with the kansas city chiefs to win. This is well it's complete. I'll double in. Andy reid we trust. I think is what was said that love. You are best of luck quickly quickly so just before we wrap up. I want to get an early one on just because we don't have as many games this week. Just looking at fred's for the super bowl winner packers to one to one bills. Tend to three bucks four to one Who would you salvi packers and chiefs favors to get to the super bowl as we just discussed than we believe is going to be the case but they are effectively a peckham which means as likely what's going to happen if they do get the super bowl so obviously considering that you'll both your backing the pakistan the chiefs in these games. Who do you like acas packages. Yep they are route that play rootless. Rufus clinical formidable. I couldn't rationalize backing against aaron. Rodgers delays playing. He's kissed is one of the great quarterback seasons. We're seeing beyond the no illusion about that. And i think he's gonna get isis it with with a super bowl. I think i think it is brilliant from roger and it isn't just ham and we emphasize back so much but it is the most influential position in sport and he is looking unbeatable right now. So i'm going packets. how about you. I'm sure way for the over come out when pakistan sixty five whatever it is just how you stretch it massively and just super bowl although because of course we are rolling all the way through The bill to the super bowl. We got content rolling out all through that night of course on a pod channels on our social channels as well. Lots of special guest coming up with planning tab. I think what four five episodes dropping super bowl week and lots of extra video concerts was at the. Nc shows off social had one facebook instagram twitter. If you haven't already give us a follow that a lot of your favorites and friends coming back on the show so Keep your eyes peeled look forward to getting to that and of course very similar note who those two teams are going to be that we're going to be keying on so clearly there'll be an edge rush super bowl special costa. Well you'd better get ready and dust down some of your stats. The probably not looks fifty sixteenth box stats on the left there marked crazy. Prophets dig out. Because we're going to be looking at things like color. The gatorade coin toss length and ashland all the good any way you can do. The coin toss. I'm gonna queue up what we're going to do next week. Any way you can coin is doing a coin toss. Surely what do you mean. We have to do. A coin toss decide. Well i'll keep you. That's a great show. I'll try and get hold of some gatorade and i'll do a blind test. You call you to blindfolded. Pour some company you say one two or three will decide what kind of gauge raided on that basis. I think definitely batch of his package chiefs and yeah luckily so no trust next week. But you'll back with the nc show We're gonna end of season special. Which is going to be our seasonable alternative awards to keep your eyes peeled on social media because you might be asking requests in lots of different ideas. We go bubbling around for that. So make sure the talks and you'll get. You'll get to see dust out dust off the tux just for that. Show a lotta great shot. That's all right. Good luck this weekend. Enjoy the action. Most of the best of luck taking some action.
GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 323: Starting Pitcher Rankings and Postseason Chatter
"The. Golden State concepts, baseball podcasts, we cover everything majorly from sprint trees the. Got Your favorite club cover from new. York to Boston to La. This is the golden state media concepts baseball podcast. GMC BASEBALL PODCAST YOU'RE GMC PODCAST network. I'm your host collar Manley. We got a lot of baseball. We gotTA talk about today. There's so much that it's of on my mind to the point where I'm going to be skipping ahead once again over news annoys I know it doesn't feel right that's my thing i. usually do that cover some injury news, cover a lot of things going on around the league, but I have so much that is just really on my mind and needs to be discussed. Leading into the playoffs. I I really want to reflect upon it because. There's a lot of expectations, sessions, expectations, but maybe even predictions thought things that we thought we were going to see. So it really made me want to reflect upon everything we've seen so far along with. Some things that maybe we should be a little thankful for I want to take the opportunity to talk about what we gained from this crazy postseason. I really do want to talk about the things that happen because we would really be missing out of this was considered a normal season if we followed normal guidelines. So I do WanNa talk about that I wanNA, talk about the braves and Astros a little bit. I think. They may go into these championships series. A little under appreciated I'll get into that shortly, and then I also want to take a look at a rankings that just came out recently, the top twenty starting pitcher rankings for the twenty twenty one season and I know, hey, we still got the twenty twenty season to wrap up about I came across the article and I found it really interesting and I have some thoughts that go along with. But there is something that I have to get off My chest. And I WANNA talk about right away because I find it very important. It's a discussion that's being had every single season. And it's not GonNa go away. It really isn't GonNa go away and it never will unless have been change happens we absolutely love the change but what I really WanNa talk about his let's talk on Pires. Now, I get to release by podcasts on Sunday and Wednesday. So I had to wait a little bit on this one. Because I'm only wanted to talk about game three between the rays. And the Yankees. And some work at home plate. Now as a fan. I've watched so many games with my fan goggles on. So I can't sit here and pretend like I. Don't understand some of the frustration when you feel like a strike call didn't go your way. Whether, you are on the mound whether your team is up to bat. I get it. Okay. I have been in those shoes I have felt that it happens all the time. Okay. But. We need to face a little bit of a reality when to appears in what they are. There is still going to be some human error and people say, well, then let's get the human air out of the game. Well you don't understand that if we bring in these robot ops. They are going to be very fine tuned to an extent that they may not be perfect when it comes to calling balls and strikes on wear something crosses the point. That is what they are set up to do where they cross the plate is where the baller strength it does not necessarily always matter where it finishes up it could bounce off the plate. It could bite like that and it could still end up being a strike is because across if we're using the robot using technology for all this. There is still a perspective when it comes to. A human on Pyre that we need to have in the game that we need to help us out. And there's frustrations with Mark Carlson who was behind the plate. In that game three for the raising Yankees because there was a strike call that would have potentially ended the inning and ended up leading to Homerun. But I think we need to take the time to actually look at his numbers from that game. This was compliments of at scorecards where they kind of keep track New York Yankees losses game to raise eight four K. game three Tampa Bay takes lead to one because. Overall accuracy behind the plate ninety, four percent. The League average is ninety one percent. So. He is calling it very high accurate amount of strikes based off what we are seeing in the game. Called one, hundred, forty, nine, hundred, fifty, nine taken pitches correctly. That's pretty Dang good okay. There's GonNa be a little bit of leeway when it comes to a strike zone. Ninety four percent is awesome. Outside zone accuracy. He called one hundred four out of a hundred eleven. True balls correctly. Inside Zone accuracy called forty, five, forty, eight, who strikes correctly. Okay We. Have to face reality. We have to face it that a lot of these umpires are actually really good at what they do. And if we really want to go to any type of robot or anything that's technology, where is opening the door for things to get slower, we're going to slow the game down even more when these guys are pretty darn efficient already. It's a big part of the game. If we even further into his stats, his worst miss calls, we'll put that quotes. Top of the fourth inning, the Zero Al Run around I to one count a ball was called the strike. And it was. Looked considerably low but at that time. Runner at first year. Well, it's it really didn't affect anything top of the V zero outs, runaround I to a ball that is called a strike this one stretching on a corner. But we see this all the time corners can be stretched out a little bit. This one isn't crazy and then the bottom of the eighth one out bases empty one to counter strike is called the ball and now is the one that was really controversial but. Impact of Miss Calls. Overall. When they break this down, they said they decrease the Yankees Ron expectancy zero run so they did not change what? The Yankees would have scored decrease Tampa run expectancy by point seven one. So overall in the game, they believe that they actually took a run away from Tampa Bay rays. And they figured his umpire performance actually was more in favor of the Yankees. Beat they're the ones that loses game come out in the bottom of the outcome I stand by it. These guys are usually pretty good and here's the reality. Most of these guys are awesome. At what they do the problem is we have a few that are not that way. We have a true few umpires that are genuinely nice in that the ones you know that names you know. Have issues. Okay we know. About Angel Hernandez. Okay there's a whole issue going on there in the sense of he is suing the MLB he thinks he's being discriminated against, but a lot of players have beefs with him. A lot of managers. A lot of sense. They think he's awful mainly behind the plate. Does he have his problems all them do out in the field but behind the point people have their issues with him. But also because he has a problem, he's very quick to toss somebody. He doesn't take any crap from anybody. Probably because he's been around the league long enough. He knows what he's going to see. He knows what he's been dealing with. He's just not gonNA, take it. Okay. He is probably our biggest non offender of having issues Joe West might be another one. He's a guy that he'll show up. You'll make the moment about him. Happens okay but outside of those two. Of Hernandez and West. How many of these umpires do you even know by name? How many do you truly know who they are could spot them and you know who these are. They do a good job and it's it's it's a rule as someone who's coached for a long time. One of the things that I've always believed said is you know when you have good odds good rafts. Is when they showed up and you almost forget they were even there. And, a lot of these umpires that truly is the case. You don't even realize it there because they're just making the right calls over and over and we have some challenges. We have some reversals on the close plays but the thing is you fans at home sometimes have to realize. We have a luxury in the sense. That we are seeing, replace from several different directions and you could go ahead and you could tell me, hey, we have those same technology they could. Do you really want to be looking at every single close call. Answer that question. Honestly now, if you are someone that you truly thinks we want to look at everything. Okay. Get ready for five six our baseball games. And your fans are they're going to drop off the map? Okay, that's a small percentage. That would truly wants to review everything just for the sake of getting it right. Okay. We have a distinct advantage watching it on TV at home. We have to be fair to some of these UMPIRES, and that's why they gave these managers the ability to challenge. Okay. It's there. 'CAUSE MLB they're smart they know. We gotta be able to fix some of these things because mistakes are going to happen because again, human error. Human error. And the biggest scrutiny is going to continue to always be the guys behind home plate because they're involved in every single play they really are. They alter so much. But when the League averages calling. Ninety one percent correct. And we're getting playoff long center ninety, four, ninety, five percent accurate behind the plate. It's hard for me to complain and the other reality. The whole situation is I when I look at this, these guys are the best ops in baseball in the world they really are. Calls are usually going both ways. There's usually. A way that this all balances out it happens in all sports. Most of the time it happens in all sports, there's a balancing act. Law of averages, it always comes back around both teams are given us many Briggs as things are taken away. It tends to go that way. So I can't sit here and just overly complain and say the team lost the game. They lost an opportunity just because of this and one of the biggest things that I i. hate that the MLB did. or at least allowed this to happen TV markets and it's Never GonNa Change, it's never gonNa go away. Is. I don't know why we allowed a Kaysone on on the TV screen. Because you just opened up the possibility to bring more criticism to your employees in empires. I really don't know the full story behind it. It'd be something to fully look up if umpires fought this, I really hope they did. Because it's just. Every. Home. Person at home. With a bag of chips watching the game. Is a stellar empire now just because they have the Kaysone there newsflash the people at the Games they don't have them. That's not their. People again it's a luxury and then we also have the technology where it might scrape the strike zone instead of fully hit I. It's just It's just creating more attention. A lot more issues for calling again for an empire, it's not an easy gig. If you WANNA. Be An umpire. The MLB. You could go ahead and try, but it's not easy. You don't just get in there because you can't. These are some of the best in it's it's GonNa. Stay this way I. I don't see major changes coming thome Pires. I really don't. We'll continue to talk about. You, know the robot strike zone but I just I. Don't know if we'll see it happened it's been experimented with in some leagues know miners have touched with it a little bit but overall baseball has been very progressive this season. I mean they tried the extra any rule with runners on second tried to change things up with relief pitchers. They changed their playoff at. They've been willing to try new things. The D. H. is now in the National League. Okay. They are willing to take risks and try things if they think it's going to better their game and help them. This is better conversation going on for a long long time. And it doesn't really feel like it's picking up steam and I don't know if it ever will. So if you're the person that really thinks a robot ups are the fixed I'm sorry I just don't think it's coming and I don't want to bash this person either because I get it I've been there and I've been the person sitting at their home watching the game that was a strike that was I understand. But sometimes we have to sit back. We have to put ourselves in perspective and we really have to realize. These guys are doing a pretty thankless job. An overall. They're pretty good at it. And we just have to accept some outcomes sometimes. It's something that we have to do I know not a fun conversation to start off a podcast get it but been something that's on my mind since that game happened I really just wanted to get it out there. Speak it into existence because when it's just thoughts running around in your head for so long it just it really sits there really settles in. So I'm glad that I can actually say it out loud for once. So we're GONNA, take a quick break. When we come back I, WanNa talk about what we've seen from this crazy season so far because. I actually am happy with it. I sit here. At peace. With the POSTSEASON, we've created I have my reasons why coming up here after quick break on the NC baseball podcast. This is your ultimate stop for everything sports. The golden state media concepts, Lords podcasts should I say more from the NFL Melby the NBA to MMA all in here the Golden State Media Concept's sports podcast listen. This. I? The ever they can't believe it. I still kinda sitting here. Shock is the segment is over that I started things off with an empire rant. Especially defending the UMPIRES. I guess I didn't I didn't ever really see that coming from me, but it was done is done I've put it out there recorded I've got a release it. To stand by it I. Think I. Think I, think I believe in the points that I was just talking about but next on I. Really. Want to get back into our postseason because this really is an ultimate. Experiment to see. If we truly enjoy this if it truly works. Well, there's GonNa, be some changes next year because I. Again, I stand by baseball has been more progressive recently than it has been in the past. We're probably GONNA alter things. It's not going to be sixteen teams but something similar and I really am sitting here. To take going I'm a little thankful. For this postseason, the way it was set up the eight eight sixteen teams. First and second place in the two. At every division because I think now looking back and obviously hindsight health still looking back. There's so much that we wouldn't health. If. We didn't change this format. Now. Being. Realistic. Sixty. Season obviously changes things. With, injuries we saw in the regular season, some teams getting hot. Maybe some surprise teams those could fizzle out over one, hundred, sixty, two games. A team that's hurting could get healthy and get hot over one, hundred, sixty, two games. Teams that won the division after sixty could be out of the playoff picture and you know reverse teams that were out of the playoff picture could be back in it in one, hundred, sixty, two games. Let's start off with the truth there. That needs to be set. But. Dive into what we have what we know. The thing that I'm really thankful for the fact that we changed the format to sixteen teams. The Yankees and Astros. Would not have been in the playoffs in a normal year format. That's normal playoff format. If one, hundred, sixty two, who knows what happens. But after sixty games, they would not have made the postseason. Most teams to watch the postseason. And the Astros, you know going onto an American league championship series like. Who saw that one coming as the season went on, they would not have made it. Pushing on forward with that. The White Sox in the Indians. Were have been your to wildcard teams. They would have been your playing game. With that They both got booted in the first round of our new format. They didn't make an outside three games. The stress the importance because these these teams would have been locks would've been into longer series but reality short series went gave more teams opportunities. Cream counter rose to the top. As what I would say. The teams that we believed going to be good. We thought the Yankees and Astros we're going to be solid at the beginning of the season looking at this we thought they were the most talented probably teams in the American League. Period. We knew the race were good. We knew we were GONNA probably have the twins Indians are going to be the next, but the as we're going to be the mix. But these are the two teams that we thought were going to really solid. And they were able to make the postseason just because of the expanded format and they were able to win around move on. That's important. Instead of our two teams bleeding the wildcard playoff would been guaranteed. They lost the first round. I I just thankful for that. That's just looking at the American league because that's something that's really nice to see. Let's go to the nationally the MARLINS. Yeah they lost the division series I get that. But they would have been booted from this playoff format as well. We wouldn't have had the ability to see them and their young pitchers take on a cubs team. That was a division winner would have made it. And we wouldn't have seen that possible upset. Now game goes to five maybe the comes Comeback Navy but you gotTA win three in a row. That's not easy to do especially if you might see al Qatar or six inches again in they shut you down. So I'm really thankful there something else that would have been interesting. The padres would have been in the plan game they would have been in the wildcard game against the cardinals. Well, lucky enough. We were able to see the padres cardinals play each other in that wildcard round best-of-three but. Saint Louis will most likely moved on because they won game one in that series. The padres don't have chance to come back. And take the next two. We're seeing more teams get an opportunity and I really hope the MLB is GonNa take this than in say and look at our wildcard playoff games. One gives excited. It's like it's like you're throwing game seven I understand. But if you maybe want the best competition, the best moving forward, we should really consider that series being a best three right away. We. Really should and I. I don't know if I was ever really crazy about that idea before but I am more on it today. That I was in the past. and. That matters. Another thing that we would be very much missing out on. And? I was excited about this as the playoffs were coming. I was excited about this. The closer we got the closer we got looking at what all matchups potentially could have been, and then the wild card round came we didn't have any division series matchups. Bummer. Is We're not gonna see this but then the second round hits and we have. Four of. This tension, these rivalries, this drama. All of that being brought into the playoffs or the LB is such a great thing. Especially, I mean it. It helps that they really all these teams were really playing each other for most of your schedule so that that obviously helps because if you'll so fresh. With a lot of these matchups in such a short season but regardless. We don't get to see that very often. A less two teams from the same division make a championship series. Happens some of the time. UNLESS, you're wildcard teams gets to go on and play the seed in the best seed in baseball was from that same division although we're not getting these in the postseason when the Games matter the most and it felt like something that I, it was a new energy. A new energy that we just felt like we were missing. I mean, come on at dodgers padres series. These guys are screaming at each other. These series are getting intense and they're going to get intense regardless because this season. But when we bring in the fact that these teams don't like each other to begin with coming in. Yeah, we got something new here he gets something. Great. I'm all about this. and. I wouldn't WanNa miss that I. that's one thing I'm big in thankful for. These teams that just hate each other played great series against each other matchup. Just, that just doesn't always happen drama created with these second round matchups. It's. It's amazing not to mention. I also love the fact that. Again I don't think we should have sixteen year I don't I'm I'm going on the record saying that. But I think we should have. Than the five I would bump into six and that have a wildcard round. because. Upsets make the playoffs more fun. I, know there's a lot of cubs fans out there but you know what? I enjoyed greatly, this marlins team knocking them off. I really did. The Yankees over the Indians might not be a massive upset but Seating wise is how that broke down. Seating wise. That's how broke down. We were very skeptical about this astros team cover the postseason even though we believed about them in the regular. Before the season started. them taking care of the twins was like, wow. Okay. We did not see that coming that was different and then we have the the ashes go right on top of that take out the as and. They're just showing that we we got something to prove we're gonNA talk more about the Astros who shortly in the next segment but. That upset feeling of shock of my gosh we see this coming t played with nothing to lose. Brings a lot of fun on energy to this. Great to see. I really. I didn't expect this to work as well as it did. I didn't expect this. But we have to look at this postseason moving forward. Our top dogs up in the MLB and really think about. If we can roll the something like this. Forward I look at lot of these teams, managers and GM's. As well I when these winter meetings happen, they talk about a lot of stuff. I don't know where this is going to go. But if I was at she ever I was a manager, I would be pushing for an expanded format to stay especially if the Games. If, we add more games on top of it because doesn't it look a lot better on your resume if you're a GM, if you're a manager if you can say, Hey, we've made the last four postseasons even if they're wildcards. If there's more wild wildcards added. Isn't better for you? I'M WE'RE GONNA talk about Houston the fact that how many consecutive championship series they've made care. It don't care that they were the two coming out of the West we're still playing in a championship series. What does that matter to us? GM's you're talking about roster construction built a good enough roster to continue to make the postseason now, and then we'll get. A little more job security for these guys. I'm sure they're gonNA. Love that. and. If we see playoff failures. Okay. Let me get start talking about guys losing jobs I mean. I feel like this is just a win win around the league and I think a lot of teams are gonNA stick around for some sort of expanded playoff. Six seven who knows who knows eight did feel a bit much but I could totally change to on this if we get. One hundred plus games in. And we feel a little bit better about these teams. then. We don't have teams coming in with losing records. That's that's one thing when over half the league is making the postseason. Losing records who like they're just gonNA happen but they don't need to okay. If someone is not finishing above five hundred, I, definitely haven't issue with them being in the postseason we're gonna see something like this. It feels like I hope I'm wrong but it feels like we're going to see something like this the NFL with the NFC east the way it's going. I almost would rather hand off. Their playoff spot to somebody else with a winning record. Just because by default, we're GONNA give one entry it just I don't I don't like it it. It bothers me, and so that's that's one issue. I really truly have outside of that I I get really reflected talk about how much I love this postseason. It feels like it's getting better and better for each passing day. And we're back into the normal -ties of what we've been used to in know five game series seven game series world series. But, the more I look back on it that wildcard round I was all for it all for it. It created a better postseason a more enjoyable experience. I got to see a lot more drama I. Got to see better teams move on. I can't believe I'm. GonNa leave here. Go don't want I really didn't like I really don't like the one. Game. Wild. Card. Plan. I really don't like that. I loved it for years because those games were so intense and so much fun. But now I sit here at the point, go man I wish it was best to three. I wish we actually gave the other team a fighting chance to come back the next day. It was an opinion that I stood by for longtime it's changed. It's changed and you know the best way to see some little changes like this is to actually try it and I'm glad we did. and. So I sit here a happy man after this post-season. Well, if not after we still got a lot of postseason left but. After the beginning of this postseason. And I truly love. What we've seen so far. So that's something I really want to talk about I. I really think we need to be thankful for what we got to experience with this postseason. Now, I know all the circumstances around it with Kobe shutting it down still a sad scary thing that we're dealing with. And? I've gotta say not thankful for that happening but with the time crunch and with US having to be flexible and adapt. Something good came out of it for and they'll be. Something good came out of it. And I hope they take advantage take the next step forward. Try to fine-tune this thing and make it. The best possibly can be so that their product postseason product. Is. Enjoyable and the fans love what they see. So that's all I. Have to say. On the wild card I don't know if I'M GONNA, go back to it again I I really think I've done a lot of great reflecting on it so far but I think it's time to move on and focus more on What's going on in the moment? I think I think that's what I really have to do. So we're gonNA take another quick break and then I wanNA talk about. The braves in the Astros because. I don't know if we're yet still really really feeling them as big a threat. As we should. And I WANNA talk about why these two teams. Are Actually a little bit scary this postseason. Given up on the GMC baseball podcast. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts, listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here I'll nothing less than our podcast lists with endless hours of podcast coverage. 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We know they may not be favored it. That's okay. Nothing wrong with that. But the Astros braves I think are just better teams that we need to be considering I recently did a playoff world series matchups Oetzi and you know I never thought about braise ashes never had that one went on there. But still regardless. I WanNa talk about these teams in why they might potentially be a little bit scarier than what we're giving them credit for. Okay And I want to start off with the Astros and some people might say that might be the easier one discuss. But I I gotta bring something up that. Sometimes, I. Feel like after a regular season where we think we've learned so much. We forget WHO's really there. We forget a teams past. We forget a resume. On roster hats. And what I mean by all that is the fact that. The answers have gone to the American League Championship series for now three consecutive seasons. and. I almost kicking myself. For not realizing. That this team that has so much experience knows what it takes to win in. October. Having a world series title lot of these guys. I can't believe I didn't feel better about them potentially making a run. Now, all regular season we had our concerns with them. They had a lot of guys al to took a big hit. With all the mockery on how he was performing this season along with other people on the team. But I'll do it. Kind of was the biggest joke of them. You know people bashing on them then you go ahead you lose pitchy Garrett Cole leaves. Burland has gone for the you. Roll which is cranky and a lot of younger guys. New Guys. Pitching. It just it felt like something like Oh man this is going to be trouble them finally getting their punishment because of the things they've done, we know their issues with. Suspensions and you know cheating and everything but. You forget just how good these guys have been in you. I don't want to say that they are just awful baseball players because they got caught cheating. We know that there's a lot to it. When it came to the postseason, these guys know what it takes to win. And it shows with their guys that have been there Carlos. Correa betting for thirty eight with three home runs seven RBI's is. To, make the championship series. This is before all going into the championships. Here's George Springer three, eighteen to home runs five RBI's. Michael. Brantley to eighty six for RBI's. Kyle Tucker the young guy. This is the new. Guy Forum. Three fifty three RBI's, and he was one of their solid performance all season. So it's almost like adding on L. Two to sixty three way better than what he's done all year a whole run for is Alex Bregman to seventy eight home run to be I mean all these guys. Their numbers are looking fine in the postseason. Looking fine. And we should have expected this. This is a team that has so much experience. They know how to win I, remember watching those astras and as games. And they would take camera angles and just span across their dugouts. and. You can see the focus in the astros you can see it the motivation. And how many times did they go to the as and you could just see it in their faces like, oh no. This is happening. This is truly happening. They are they are coming for us. We're going to blow this league. It was it was so noticeable and. A fire and a team that's been there before that experienced it matters. You can look across all sports. When the game slows down when each pitch gets to be more important. Every at Bat. tenses up a little bit. The guys with experience they're going to be ready. They're gonNA be ready and you know you gotta give your hats off to the as because they went one the West. But. A, lot of them have been this far before. and. They're learning they're learning how to keep getting over that Hump and keep pushing pushing forward. And working towards the world series. This team in Houston they know what it takes. They know what they need to do preparation for each game. They were ready. They still have a guy in Zach He's going to do great things for him. That's a guy with a lot of innings under his bill and. So. Far. So far. When it comes to pitching. Things are going bad for them. Brian. Presley. Struggled a little bit. When it came to the last game? Trying, to get things. Moving on to the championship series of days, but he had been good up to that. Link Taylor Christian Hobby got some starts for the season. A lot of these guys are gonNA, come bullpen they're going to be okay. I worried so much about their starting pitching and there's still some things to be worried about their starting pitching. Don't get me wrong. There's still some concerns there, but they're leashes are gonNA. Be Short. If anything's going wrong, we're going to move out of the bullpen and. Even though he doesn't have. A, championship record. Dusty Baker's been around the block he's been around a lot of baseball teams he knows. The game. After firing your manager getting dusty Baker to come right in with quality team. Was a great fit was agreed fix. You brought it a guy who knows the game very well. And he's going to help you progress on. And I also sit here and I go I didn't talk about that enough I don't I don't think I gave that enough credit because it was a great move by the Astros to bring it a manager. That's just experience. Has just experienced. You know your players have experienced bringing a manager, the experience and you just put it all together and. Things are GONNA work out if they make the postseason I, really am kicking myself on this one. So I, I think this ashes team with what they bring to the table is just a lot scarier. Because of an inch just. I don't know if I would predict them to win out. Go to a world series to win a world series. I have to realistically say that they are much better. Especially wash him in these postseason games. BASED ON THEIR REGULAR SEASON Regular. Seasons wants story. It's a blank slate when she gets the postseason. You can control your destiny from there. All you gotTa do is get there. So that's something that the other team that I wanNA talk about is that Helena Braves. These guys are division winners. Their offense is phenomenal. They've done a lot of great things. In the first time for them going to the National League Championship series in almost twenty years. You. You got to start thinking about them. This was one of the best offenses in baseball this season. Freddy Freeman will be very highly in the conversations for MVP and the funny thing about it is though. He. WAS NOT. Good. In the postseason so far. He is not one quick. But other guys are showing up in bringing the offense a Kunia four games. Three Sixteen home run to RBI's. He's still an electrifying electrifying leadoff hitter five, seventy, nine, slugging nine, twenty, nine, zero ps such small sample guy. Zunia. An underrated signing. This one is panned out so much for this team to boost their offense. Just agree moving nick park is coming back is going to help as well. Now, he came back late to the regular season. 'cause you decide to opt out first comes back. Eventually, you know, thinks that role a little bit better for him he's GonNa be better for them to have in the postseason. Dan's Swanson. was having one of his better seasons for the braves. You will continue to the postseason hitting still up and down. Catching I mean he's been an offensive juggernaut for tool runs five. RBI's baton four hundred. In the postseason. Everything offensively, we know is good in they're getting it from all over the place. There are a solid solid team. So, we need to be considering them on offense alone, but that's not the reason why I'm sitting here going that I should really reconsider them. It's because they are surprising me so much. With their pitching. Starting. Pitching Took so many hits this year. But will we sit back and look at it now they have two great stars. In Ian. Anderson. The young guy. Doing. Great. Who will be in the young conversation this year To starters that are coming out being solid, and then they're getting some contributions out of their bullpen. Will Smith. He's been around on quite a few teams doing great art monk on. Solid. For them out of the bullpen. Just, have a ton of Names Darren, O'Day g mentor Shane Green like a lot of guys. Who've just been solid for them If they're pitching continues to play well. And their offense continues to be balanced. We need to be talking more about the braves as a threat to go to the world series. We have to be talking about this. And it's the other team where I'm just kicking myself when I go. You know there are a division winner really good. But yeah, he got the dodgers. You got the PADRAS I didn't give them enough credit. Because it felt like all season they were just fighting off in the middle, East. They were just running away with it. We were talking about the phillies. We were talking about. The marlins to mets at a chance for longtime We talked about every team in that division. But we? Didn't talk enough about this offense is really good. They're gonNA be in the postseason they're gonNA scary. You're not gonNA WANNA. See these guys. When they go and they make quick work. Of the reds in the MARLINS and I'll also be honest. It may not be the toughest scheduled to get to the NFC s but they were dominant. gave their pitching, carry them through burst the reds. They shut down the. Offense was great against the models. They have what it takes to move on. And be serious serious world series content. We gotta give do so. It's just what we have to do. I have to look at this astros abrasive. Team ago, Ra it's time to sit back. Actually go. All right. These guys are real legit. We should consider them because of recent C.. We have to consider all this. It's time to look at these teams. Be Like Yep this is legit. This is real so Glad, I was able to do that. Almost, got to give an apology to him. Hey, we'll see what we'll see what they can do moving forward. We'll see what happens in the championship series and go from there. So we got one more segment coming up here on the GMC baseball podcasts and there was an article. RELEASED ON ESPN for insiders. About the top twenty starting pitching rankings and I loved reading through this especially because it made me notice a few things and I wanNA talk about that with you guys coming up here on a GMC baseball podcast. Want to know the latest and soccer that listen to the golden state media concept soccer podcast from M.. L. S. is the World Cup the Premier League. We've got you covered the latest update the hottest matches news on the League's top players it's the state media concept soccer podcast. Listen. So I fall in danger of just about every other sports fan in the world. Talking about how much if you if you put out there, here's a rankings list of our top so and so. There's a good chance I'm clicking on it. I just I can't avoid those I. I like to see someone else's opinion. Maybe learn about something is most of the time they throw it like a statistic for you or something. and. You just learn a lot and sometimes you dislike to read those and be angry because maybe your team got a little snub, maybe there's a lot going on there but recently, Espn Eric, caravel, senior writer for ESPN he released list for the top twenty. Fantasy. Baseball but top twenty starting pitchers by tears. For the twenty, twenty, one season, and that's that's a lot of fun I like to talk about a lot of those. So I ended up trying to give it a reading. So just kind going through those rankings. Jacob degrom number one no surprise there. Garrett Cole to Shane beaver three. That's your top guys top three as of right now now, I know there's other guys in the that had really great seasons this year, but he's just trying to project for next year. What he thinks they're going to be to look at a Walker Bueller jet clarity you darvish Max Scherzer Clayton Kershaw might glacier and lance. Lynn. My favorite for the Texas Rangers who needs to get away from Texas. That's a whole nother story will leave that one where it is tier three Lucci Lido Trevor Bauer wherever he ends up next year Aaron nola innocent lament. Tier Four Blake Snell Max Breeds Stephen, Rostker Zach Cranky Louise Casteel, and twenty rounding it out Corbin. Burns if he continues on the pacy was this season eight might be a little bit higher and then others were considered sunny grade was on their brandon woodruff's gallant Charlie Morton Zack Wheeler Selah glass. No Chris Patrick. Sixers Sanchez, along with others definitely in the consideration now. Getting the opportunity to read this list. It had a lot of thoughts go through my head and I was like okay I gotta write these down I gotTa talk about these because there's there's so much that came from this that I have not only just discuss but also look up a little bit. And I, WanNa start off with this. Looking at those names and I get into fantasy rankings, but still looking at those names. Fifteen of those twenty pitchers and the top twenty. Made the playoffs in our twenty twenty four. And not all fifty played, I need to start with that not all fifteen plate. So injuries obviously played a part, but their team was able to move on and more likely. They were a big part. Weather team is there to begin with. Just continues to show me. The value in having aces and some of these teams. Having a couple. Top. Notch guys, I mean, let's let's be real. Kershaw bueller being on the same team but the dodgers if we move to the other team, good chance to their best pitcher on that other team. So some of these teams are loaded with a couple of them. I find it interesting to see like that. There's the value. There is so much like. Top Aces are important. Now, obviously, you wanNA have more death. You don't want it to fall off after one, but it's just having that importance of that guy that you can put on the mound when you need to really go out there and get a win managers do this they're smart with this. The bring these pictures planned to have these pitchers in games that they matter. And in the postseason, like when you go out there for game one with a lot of these guys making the postseason. It's important to have them out there for game one. So just putting that value of what an ace can do for a team. Love to see that very much love to see that I thought that's important to point out right away. That I noticed. Is, right away looking at Jacob degrom. He's going to be in line. For potentially. Is. Third National League Cy Young I don't think he's GonNa get it this year I think Bauer was a little bit better. But he'll be in the conversation he will definitely be discussed. Can we get him? In the postseason police and not even just can we get him in the postseason? Can we get the postseason consistently I don't want to call for the mets trait, get rid of him. I don't WanNa be that guy okay. Move this guy's as much as I am on the Lance Lynn trained to get a movement because the Rangers really have no direction. The mets might have a little bit of something there. But A pitcher like that. Who's been that dominant? Over consisted seasons. I. WanNa see him at the is stage and we really need to get him here and the big thing that I'm noticing is I'm wondering if we're almost getting to the point with degrom or we're GONNA, start talking about his career being wasted. Were kind of there with Mike Trout. The angels made some moves within their front. They're gonNA. Do some different things hopefully this year. We we gotta get these guys. Generational, top level talent. Into intro. into the postseason. We need to see these guys at the highest level. It's a real shame in their careers if we can't talk about world series or postseason just because they're teams white on are making there. And Baseball's harder. Than like say basketball when we bash these guys for not having championships. I mean there's there's a lot more that's going into these pictures only get to play one out of every five games usually. All right. There's a lot that goes on there but. I don't know if it's GonNa ever happened in the near future not the trade deadline happens. Starting to talk about beyond the move. I just want to see him on contender. So badly. So badly, this guy has had such a great career I want. To see more of him in the postseason, he's really at his top level. Top notch stuff. So I I don't want to have a wasted group I. Don't want it. I. Don't want to be able to say that when he's up. The third thing that I noticed. As I, read this. Is Man. I can't get away from those nationals. They can rebound in a big way next year. With some healthy pitching match. Max Scherzer. strikeouts remained huge for him. If he. Returns next year for the nationals. I, they're gonNA have some relevancy and that if we bring back a healthy. Stephen Strasburg. That nervous you that ended his season in two thousand twenty. I can't forget how good he was in two, thousand nineteen I can't get over that. He looked like the number one overall pick. He was one of the first guys that I really remember. All the buzz around him see with Bryce Harper for the nationals all the buzz. Of lead he was going to get drafted number one. AD. It's just really shows. That if this, national. Steve can get it back together. These pitchers are healthy. They're gonNA. Come back. They're gonNA. Come. Back. So next year 'cause they have. Youth. Talented Youth. Coming up once Haute. Is Just GonNa be the best kept secret from this year because the nationals were very good trait turner was hidden for a very high average they got some players on that team. We need the pitching to come back and help them out patch Corbin's still there I mean. To help him. Up. It's the fantasy thing hasn't further back here just to because is getting older is thirty two Strasbourg. Coming back from surgery, and we'll see what happens with the comparison will be up there with Chris sale now Chris Sale obviously coming off Tommy? John Not. On the list, there's concerns. But when healthy Scherzer's Strasbourg in that nationals team. We should be talking about them in the National League East. We probably wouldn't have the marlins making the playoffs. Sorry. MARLINS fans if they're a healthy squad. Just kind of my thoughts on it but. That's the way it is. So that's that's kind of the third thing that really stuck out to me. The fourth thing is. Man. We know it in the moment but looking here, the padres are really building something special. With all the transient made this off season and now they are sitting here. CLEMENGER lumet. is to top top pitchers. Going forward. The padres team is building something very special in so unlucky. They are going to be almost balanced out. By a dodgers team that's doing the same thing. They. Both have top pitchers. Potter's like we said Clemenger lament paddock is in there is a number three. Number three option dodgers. Kershaw. Bueller Dustin May. I made the offensive talent. These teams is going to be fun for a long time and I I. Just I had fun looking at this and I just have to laugh the padres event troubles getting to the postseason get together they finally figuring it out. Sorry. The dodgers are still going to remain donald and be very good as well. It's going to be a battle for the next. How many years? It's going to be a lot of fun to watch a lot of fun to watch. That was the poor thing that came to me after I was reading these rankings but the very, very last thing. That came to me as I was reading these rankings. I just put a smile on my face knowing all of this is that. There is such. Promising. Young talent starters in the MLB. Like we've never seen I I can't remember the last time I looked across the spectrum of the majors in went. Wow. We got a lot of guys twenty, six younger. Are really good. I. I put that Cutoff at twenty six I could stretch it up to twenty seven compatriots can last they can be around for quite a while. Later, they could disappear quickly with some arm issues too I know that but it's a position where they can linger. and. Just looking at twenty six down. And going through this list going through some of the extras but also just grabbing some other names we're now that list. While I mean Walker Bueller the dodgers twenty-six. Flirty for the cardinals twenty, four, Gelato twenty six for the White Sox free twenty six for the Braves Burns twenty five for the Brewers Zach Gallon Twenty five for the diamondbacks paddock twenty four for the padres success Sanchez to for the MARLINS. Dustin may twenty three for the dodgers. And there's names that got left often there. There's names that got left off. Down subtle that were coming in head that run the list of others I mean. Such promising youngsters. Pitching is it feels we're almost making a little shift. To where a lot of our big names are starting to become some really great pitchers. And Eck could change obviously as the season progress as we move further and further but I just I don't remember a time where I really looked at the pitching landscape while. There's so many great young pitchers to art pair off with a lot of our older pitchers that are still here. Because I mean, there's still a lot of widely vets. That are doing a great job I mean obviously. He's out there Gary Kohl's a little bit older but still. Is having the breakout season. He add he's twenty five I mean forgetting about Bieber. And there's young pitchers still to come. I'm still excited to see Mackenzie Gore for the Patriots. Nash just one name one name. There's a lot of other guys out there. That are GONNA make the pitching game even better I mean. Get also talk about. Gear. Crochet. For the White, Sox the twenty one year old coming right out of Tennessee. Throwing gas. I mean this is this is just stars. There's a lot of exciting young relievers Josh Eater Exciting Reliever Devil lives being in the Wisconsin Area I. Know How excited people are about that? It's just it. It was fun to read about this and how promising things look moving forward. When it comes to pitching in the MLB. Great. Thing to see especially with a guy who loves his pitching. Excited I'm excited about the future baseball it. Really. There's a lot of things that could go right here with the players that we have way for mass be changed I. Think it's GonNa be Great. So. That's GonNa be it for me here on the GMC baseball podcasts. GMC PODCAST Network Your host Colin Manley I WanNa thank you again for listening. Downloading. Makes a great deal. It's very supportive to us. Anything. Else. You could do a could you leave a positive comment? Maybe something that you wants to discuss something like from the show maybe you have some young pitchers you WANNA. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - (04-23-19)
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So if you're if you're talking about Zion, and what he does, you know, check being as big as he was being able to run athletic. Know he he was there before Zion. And obviously LeBron was something bigger than we'd seen with that much skill zion's not up there. You know, Charles Barkley somebody to that we had not seen somebody like that. But you know, Zion coming in. He's the newest we've seen all the highlights therefore you sometimes forget about history. Yes, he shack. I remember feeling like he was scripted out of a movie like he was a movie come to life or something that he was just so unique. Well, the name to Shaquille O'Neal. All right. Let's a poll question. Mclovin. We stand with what we had from the first two hours. I want to ask a certain point this week. Who's a second quarterback taken of column we never got around to yesterday. Okay. Is there any kind of consensus said it's it's was Haskins forever. But then, you know, like match diamond just said some people have Haskins number what everyone is different. I don't know if there's any renter. It depends on what resulted does on who the second quarter. Is going to be because it's could still be Cuyler Murray. It can be Dwayne Haskins going before him and Kyla Murray in the second quarterback selected or somebody trades up. Because I don't know it feels like it's getting a little unsteady there at the top of the draft here and more and more people unless they've they're convincing them. Sometimes you hear so much about one side that you're looking for somebody to convince you the other way, or at least you want that information of what is what's the possibility here, or am I missing something in my so blinded, by of course, there was on a taken Colin Murray, then you start to do your mock draft, and you say, well, that means if he goes here than he goes here, and he goes here, you're trying to scrape that. Now, it feels like some of these NFL insiders draft experts are looking at this with real possibility that Zona is not going to take during. Nick and Indiana joins us. Hi, nick. Would he have today? I just wanted to call say I'm big Packers fan. I want to know. Is it time for pack was a draft a quarterback in Iraq. I I'm gonna look at Aaron Rodgers as a young thirty five. Is there somebody there? It goes back to we don't you know, if you're the Packers. You don't say we need to take a quarterback we need to take that quarterback. And if that's the case great get the quarterback that has the ability the skill set to run your offense and. Get him help your this goes back to when farve was in his still in his prime and you drafted Aaron Rodgers the first round pick. And he's going, wait. Give me some help here. When do you draft a quarterback when you have a veteran quarterback? John Elway was still the quarterback in Denver. And Dan Reeves drafted Tommy Maddox that didn't go over. Well, it's rare when you have a quarterback already in play the perfect scenario is the giants because he li- knows. He's on borrowed time. You know, he he gets his victory lap in this. Is it this year more than likely that they're taking a quarterback that you don't know who and you don't know when but I don't think he's gonna go kicking and screaming and saying, hey, you know, what why are you wasting the sixth pick on a quarterback to replace me? Yeah. Polling would if he classic if ally manning has one of the best regular seasons of his career and his eleven and five right after they draft a quarterback. That's what I think. We'll have. I think the giants will make the place with ally. Manning starting this year. You said the giants are making the plan because they shouldn't based on the past two years, and because it screws everything up may maybe more. So I'm rooting for it. I like when plans get screwed up. Well like Jimmy Garoppolo perfect fill in for Tom Brady. They've got the great guy to slide in and then time with now I'm gonna play formal but also feels like you can take quarterback in the second or third round. And you're starting quarterback is not normally offended. You know, Rothlisberger was with Mason Rudolph. But if you use a first round pick, then it's different. If you take a third round pick, it feels like, you know, the quarterback might go. All right. I get it. You know, maybe down the road. And maybe it's a you know to draft value pick. They're mclovin. The thing with the giants and people not even notice this you can't name defensive player on their whole team. Maybe one if you're lucky know, they've got rid of everybody. So they got they got rid of alleviate Vernon Landon Collins. So they got a draft. Somebody don't they. They've no one. Yeah. I would think that that's you're going with. Defense in that position. I'm guessing, but they may go with a quarterback. And maybe it's because they feel like Louis Riddick when he told us about Dwayne Haskins yesterday. We can't pass up on this guy. He is so good in going to be our quarterback for the future. If you feel that way, I have no problem with your philosophy. If you feel like that is your guy you can't pass on him. Take him at six don't run the risk of waiting to seventeen. I respect that. Now, you might be dead wrong. But I respect that you have consensus, and you're going after the guy that you think is the right guy for you not. Let's draft a quarterback drafting our quarterback club. Okay. If what that caller asked if you had a poll question which team with a veteran quarterback is most likely to take a quarterback in the first forty picks. He's a saints donor. I dunno wherever the if you breeze Big Ben Philip rivers Tom Brady, and I guess you can put in the Packers. They feel which of those teams draft their successor this year. Well, you might draft a quarterback that doesn't mean you're getting their successor at thirty two is are you trying to be I would assume if you. Them say a thirty to the patriots. And you're trying to get the successor. Or is it possible like to Jimmy Garoppolo where he's at high in backup? If you're taking somebody in the first round, then you're taking somebody successor. Or you think any of those teams might go QB and the first round like the chargers. I thought the chargers if they got Josh Rosen would do that. But Philip rivers. They're talking about he plays a couple more years. If that's the case, then you're three years into Josh Rosen's rookie contract. And then you only have two years there to play with with spending money. Elsewhere. I could see the patriots doing it. But probably not a first round pick. People have Daniel Jones in mock drafts there, I don't think Daniel jobs falls, but the you know, the unity all they taking quarterbacks. They'll take a quarterback just not too high. Yeah. But when was Garoppolo three years ago that they took him percent? The year to Kobe percent third round for percent. And then Brady's forty two. I know I know. But are you getting the right quarterback for your system because the patriots are different? And that's where I thought Josh Rosen would make sense if on the patriots than I would look at Josh Rosen. If on the chargers, I would look at Josh Rosen. And then you, you know, you can still use your draft capital to fill in some other. You know, the chargers are ready to win. Now. The patriots are ready to win. Now. You're not going to be taking away from the team. I don't think you're going to have to get somebody to replace grunk. That's where I thought the patriots could do something interesting, and maybe trade up and get one of these two tight ends out of Iowa. Like, I thought maybe and you don't hear anything out of the patriots. Because patriots don't tell you anything. But there's somebody that I would keep an eye on. If they did do something with Josh Rosen or they traded up to get a tight end here. I could see that you know, possibly happen. All right. A couple of phone calls in here. Jeff in Cincinnati joins us. Hi, jeff. What's on your mind today? They Dan six put a swallow to thirty. Just calling in first of all it's Jeff geo f what your former roommate and the own them. And who okay. cone. And I'm guessing that the muscle memory has long since left. Fritzy, he is not doing those curls properly. If he if he wants to get swollen to politics dictionary word, they're gonna leave that elbow down against the side for two to focus on the bison. But then it's harder to lift it back up. When you go all the way there. It's supposed to be hard. That's. That's the point man, you're taking all that. You're taking all the tension. You raise that oboe instead of doing thirty five's. I gotta do twenty. Okay. Thank you Jeff geo f-, we've got four other tweets hear someone tell for ceased doing bicep. Curls wrong all these years, and you you built those arms up and you're going to happen incorrectly. That's very bizarre to it the wrong way and still be able to have some type of definition, and we do have weights in here in the in the new man cave and for two was showing us how to do bicep curls and apparently incorrectly. Mike and Oregon joining us, Mike. What do you have for me today? Eight and my six foot generous to twenty five. Paying? I think I have a solution for the Westbrook chaos that happens post game. I think what we need to do is get some press credentials to make loving flying out for the Connecticut post to Portland, and when trammel asks his totally legitimate question to Westbrook, which is perfectly a perfect question. And he says next question. Get get mclovin to flag him down at the exact same question. Get the answer. What you accomplish? There is Trammell gets his question answered. And we get the hilarity in entertainment of asking the exact same question proving that Westbrook is being obnoxious. All right, Mike. Thank you. Mike blazer fan. Obviously, maybe wanting to get into Russell Westbrook junior. Third the third. Ted, mclovin. Are you interested in flying out for the game too? So you can ask the same question that Russell Westbrook says next west, well, I love Portland they have Powell's bookstore when the grace bookstores in the world. I'm terrified of Russell Westbrook. I think he would get mad at the person who did that. Don't you think he would give me a glare that was awful? I mean, you've been in those post games, you guys are hostile. It's no fun. But it would be funny though. Yeah. Kerry acres who's a longtime reporter. Yeah. Came up, but his question, by the way, too, Paul George Paul. Why did you dunk at the end of the game? I didn't even see the dog. That's out of Priddy loaded at all. It was because they were what up by twelve. Yeah. And yes that was loaded. But I don't think very Trammell is asking a loaded question to Russell Westbrook. No. He was asking a pretty standard question. So if if I did ask that question, you think Russell would answer. If you ask it right after. No. Probably not PR would probably then chime in next question because you can hear them doing that. When berry travels asking a question, and then you have the next question, and you can hear somebody say next question. So let me see what do we have bucks close out the pistons jazz stay alive magic. Raptors tonight that seventy Sixers Spurs nuggets thunder and the trailblazers boy, if the thunder lose, well, are you going to be surprised if the thunder lose, I I'm not going to be but people thought that they were the team in the west that they could challenge Golden State. But I for some reason when you have two of the top ten players in the league, and you can't get out of the opening round. Then you start to question some people there and Paul George's playing hurt, but he had a NB MVP quality season. You know, there'd be pointing fingers at Billy Donovan the head coach. But you got to great players that doesn't guarantee anything here. Couple of the things I saw I was watching the Mets in the Philly's last night. I don't know why. But is flipping through. And I said, oh, let me see how Bryce Harper's doing at. That moment. Bryce Horford comes out of the dugout, and then they go boy he's going to get run. I'm going Bryce Harper. Just got thrown out of a game a one run game with the match. And I went what are you thinking? He struck out his two times. And then he got tossed your Bryce Harper. You can't get tossed. And then all of a sudden, mclovin goes, you know, after that ojection people started talking about are we going to have a computerized strike zone. Are we are we ready to go there? I know that we have that the graphic during a game. But because Bryce Harper got thrown out because he questioned too high strikes that way, you wouldn't the batter's wouldn't be able to question the computer, it'd be right. Presumably should get rid of all these arguments, which carry Etta the. Teammate of Bryce Harper was not thrilled with what Bryce Harper did last night where he got thrown out. This is what he had to say post game. He's got under we need him right field. I don't care how the empire's. He wasn't great for other side on out there trying to make pitches. He misses some calls. So what like? We need him out there. We were flat from from start to finish two. Our delay? Doesn't matter. We have to be ready to play we weren't. Then it showed. We we started at eight forty five. I don't think guys we're ready to play. That's why we're gonna come out. We gotta come out tomorrow. But. Well, it's troubling. Yeah. I'm out there doing everything I can to win a game. I need my guys behind me. And they weren't. Well. We need him in right field. I don't care how bad he is. I need him in right field. I need him at the plate. And he wasn't there. And that's this is the twelfth objection of Bryce Harper's career that feels like a lot for a guy who's what twenty six he's been thrown out twelve times so far in his career. In it's in April. Like, should you have to get your bench fired up in April? That would be more concerning that he felt like, you know, hey, we were kind of flatten. I'm going to you know, I didn't like what this fire was doing with his strike zone. He can't get thrown out of games this division rival with the Mets. You can't get thrown out of these games. And not at that point. It's a two one game there. Can you check have stats in check on the number of objections? Like great players. How often do they get thrown out a games? I'm curious that would Bryce Harper. But he didn't like Mark Carlson strike zone night. Have the computerized strikes on? I'm for it. I don't need to have my, you know, this umpire he likes the high strike, or he'll give you the edges or you know, if you're a hitter he's going to be it's going to squeeze you. If you're a future hall of fame pitcher, he's going to give you the benefit of that. I don't I don't need any of that. If you're going to do computerized strikes, and then you just have a, you know, I don't know if you have a sound effect, or whatever it is. And then nobody can argue that I saw pitches that were high in that the strike zone was high. But he calls it for everybody. I'm okay with that that you know, everybody is getting called the same way. But if you have the ability to computerize the strike. Zone. And I go back to a story. I saw on HBO Israel sport. And they did a computerized strike zone where you had somebody up above who would just signal down. That's the ball, and that's a strike and do it in real time. And it you know, it didn't disrupt the flow the game. And they got the calls, right? These unpire who go up there. You know, they have an ego. They want to control the game. Now, I have a problem with that. You know, Joe west has been doing this for decades umpires through history of been doing if you have the technology, then I don't have that with empires. They're gonna call fair and foul. You know plays at the plate. But take away the balls and strikes, and I would be fine with that. If that's what if feels like that's where we're headed technology with five K the ability to be able to be precise with these strike zone. First of all we have to establish what is the strike zone because member when you were growing up it was like armpits to your knees that that's not the same strike zone. They have in major league baseball. It feels like it's from the top of the belt buckle to the bottom of the belt buckle like, you're going. You know, that's a really small window that you have to give throw a pitch in there. And nothing has benefited the pitchers everything. Benefit the hitters have an established strike zone make legitimate strike zone. And if you're going to have it computerized than do it, and then had the unpire there for fair and foul and catcher's interference. And some of those things hit by pitch and play the play. I'm okay with that. We can discuss we'll take a break. It's coming up on twenty after the hour. New sports words in the Webster dictionary for this year. Paulie, you'll have the new editions coming up. Yes. Mclovin. I think I have a new hot draft term to usually paulie jumps on this early. I haven't heard this one. But I'm hearing it every day. Whether it's quite a tease, we'll take a break twenty one after the hour, Dan Patrick show. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial. And I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you, please. Please stay with me. And just fifteen minutes, you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. 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Channeling my inner Sam Elliott. Yes ball. This'll be a good time for you to work on some of your Johnny cash covers. Of to burn ring. Afar. It's starting to sound more, Johnny. Thank you his is from whisky and cigarettes, though. And maybe you're you're mine would be from tequila to kill him. Petting a cat, and and and a cat. Is burn anything. And it makes a fiery rain. My while. Get to the chorus here in a minute. Feel ring of our. I fail into Vernon. Ring of our went down down down the flames. They went higher and it burns for birds. The rate of fire the Ray of fire. Awesome. Thank you mcglone. Thank you. I we got new words here Webster dictionary. These are sports words, poly. Right. Well each year. I think twice a year. They unveil new words this year. They're six hundred forty new words and diction. I thought there like eleven that they add six hundred forty like does anybody own a dictionary here. It's like the encyclopedia Britannica, nobody. Nobody owns those. Who remember when he has to used to have to look stuff up at book? Yeah. Or when you had the encyclopedia Britannica guy went door to door selling those all done. Let me get the elvers. And you whatever you'd have to make space here for all of these books. Now, the encyclopedia britannicas called Google, isn't it you just Google something. All right. Probably would have I. So there's a bunch of new words new definitions for words, but there are four new specific sports words or phrases that Tommy John surgery is now in the dictionary. It has. A surgical procedure which at torn owner collateral ligament of the elbow is replaced with a tendon graft typically obtained from a superficial muscle of the form and has how to use it in a sentence. Heart-stopper a shocking or thrilling occurrence or event such as excitingly excitingly suspenseful competition. All right. All right. I'm fine with that hyphenated, that's hyphen and heart-stopper. Okay. Garbage time the final moments or minutes of a game in which one side has an insurmountable lead substitutes often enter the game in places starting players etcetera etcetera in the last new one swollen S W O L E adjective, extremely muscular having a physique enhanced by bodybuilding exercises used in a sentence. Mark Wahlberg swollen body should be motivation for us to hit the gym. Didn't fritzy say that he was swell when he was younger. Yeah. But had period where? Word. But that that's that's the word that's catching on with the kids these days. I mean, you were swollen back. Then you just didn't know the response was not aware of that. Now, he has swelling and discharge contemplating. Yeah. Your swollen? I don't know if really will. Yeah. That'd to be ripped and cutting swollen. Once you put an after then you've got problems John in Boston. Hey, john. What do you have for me today? Hey DP, thanks for taking my call. I heard you talking about the automated strike zone, and they are they're testing it. And I think like the American into some independently or something and it'll be signed a contract with testing rules. But my point I wanted to mention what I'm not. So sure it would actually help the game. Consider like hitters that are so good at having such a good. I and seem pitches come in. If you tell them like, hey this pitch one inch off the zone. Like right here is going to be a bald. They're going to stop swinging at is already too many walks and strikeouts. And I think he has it potentially could swap game down even further. If you tell all these, you know, athletes like that's going to be a boss, stop chasing, sliders out of his own. You know, it's you're not gonna get an advantage. Well, what I'd like to do is have a little bigger strike zone. Thank you, John. I'd like to have a bigger strike zone. So it forced you to go up there and swing the bat because I think the strike zone. Feels a lot smaller than it. You. Used to and they want more offense in there. They want you to groove a pitch. And you know, I think that if I'm a hitter I can sit on a pitch in a certain location. I want you little uncomfortable up there that you you're swinging as opposed to just taking pitches waiting waiting waiting for your pit. I'd differently. Here's the bigger problem with this though, let's say you have a Aaron judge at the plate or I have Jose altuve. I have to make sure that I modify the strike zone it floats. It's a floating strike zone. And you know, but what if a guy moves in the box in a what if he moves up in the box is the strike zone differently. He's back in the boxes there strike zone. That's different. And plus you have to get the cameras straight on that that because when you see a camera it's usually over the right shoulder of the pitcher. You're not getting a perfect angle. And sometimes you look at the computerized strike zone, and you go, well, it's obviously strike if you were right behind the pitcher. And had that angle than it would be different. But you have to do it where you can actually set up the computerized strike zone on the screen itself. And he wouldn't be able to do that. Right over the pitcher's head. Yes polling is everyone here in favor of Ottomax strike zone. Because it seems like hardcore baseball fans are not because it doesn't hurt the drama the game the minute by minute arguments of the game the demand the players arguing. Well, we have to decide what we want with our sports is it depending on the sport of how much leeway we give the officials or the empire like missing a call in baseball is part of baseball. Right. We hear that all the time. But you know it in football. You can't miss a call. We don't want you to miss a call. We want more technology. Make sure you don't you know, have these mistakes the last two minutes of an NBA game. We want to make sure you don't miss those goals. Yeah. Mclovin. So tennis added a computer system serves got to fast for the human it that nobody has a problem with that at all anymore. The little beep or the cartoon, and I get that. Because it is if you've sat courtside for tennis match. I don't know how they tell the tennis balls in. I really don't because it is the, you know, they're over one hundred and thirty miles an hour. And you know, it's there's so many of those Serbs, and you gotta get them. Right. Yeah. For tea and calling balls and strikes to me. Anyway is a lot more intricate than tennis. When if it hits any part of the line, you you can do that in sport like tennis where either hit a part of the white line or not when when the way balls are moving and different stature in different heights and weights of players, and and the way they crouching down or standing up and batting stances. And like you said over his shoulder and different angles. It looks differently in the way curveball crosses the plate. I don't see how even with a robot or some machine you can even get balls checks. Exactly. Right with technology. You have a better chance of getting it. Right more. I think in a more accurate number if it is computerized because it's right above the poem plate. And if you have the camera above and in behind the pitcher, I can tell when it got over the plate where it got over the plate was at a strike when it got over. I once again, I saw this on HBO sports real real sports, and they showed this in real time happening, and I got it. I understood it we may not like computers invading our world. But we can't pick and choose when we go, and I'm okay, if you miss a call there, but I'm not, okay. If you miss a call there. Yes. The strikes on seems to be the only area in sports where it's just it's this box. It's theoretically defined box. That's important to the game. But it's just up to the empire's discretion imagine. If the first baseline was also up to the. Umpire's discretion today. I feel like calling it a little tighter. So now that wasn't in or today. You know, what I'm a little it's going to be a little wider birth. So that was in. I mean, that's essentially what we're doing with the strike zone. Depending on what I'm Pires behind the plate that tonight. He's calling it a little higher, but you won't do this in football where some official is gonna call holding and another fischel is going to be loose on pass interference. It's open to their interpretation of what the rule is. Whereas the strike zone is the strike zone. It shouldn't be open to your interpretation. But we've somehow allowed these Pires to have a little bit more control say so be a little bit more personalities here with these strikes on an I member air, Greg when he had that really really loose strike zone. Was that Leon Hernandez in the playoffs? And he was he was calling pitchers where you go that that's not even close to being a strike. So I would like to take a little bit of that weapon away from the unpire. But I would like to know how would you call a strike or bowl on Ricky Henderson? He would crouch he was already small and then you're trying to call a strike zone. There do it where if you're five ten this year strike zone. If you're six one this year strikes if you crouch this is still your strike zone. And you know, I think it's happening. I think it's going to happen in the next decade where you have computerized umpiring, balls and strikes Robert and Seattle joins us. Hi, robert. Thanks now. You know, I'm I'm a psychologist. I'm writing a book, and you guys are going to be in chapter. It's going to be called, what's your man personality style. My best of the week is the new ruby guys have back there. The back row has more room to not get in each other's stays. But I'm wondering if they're having any anxiety disorder from separations in guiding. Oh. I see with that that silence. I'm so worried about him. Why would you worry about rushing? Always your heroes a lot like I get nervous like that. Even on the radio like this. You can tell my voice I start to breathe harder. I have to open the door and my car because I get crowded. Are you at work all the time? People don't quite understand our personality style. Wait, wait. You're writing your writing a book on what your man cave says about you. Yeah. You know, your man cave is going to be demand tape personality of style test. So how there's five of you there. Five distinct personalities, each one of us has a little bit of you. And each one of you is a pretty good prototype for certain types of personalities, and I watch it that way I want you guys and just watch the way of Satan is so concerned sometimes for fifty and the rest of you were kind of like laughing because you think it's all a joke and fifty kind of holding back. Okay. Robert Voy rubber over the top. How how 'bout you do one sentence on each of our personalities from what you've seen in the man cave? Sure. Sure. Well, first of all, I he's the he's very sensitive, but he tries to be tough. He got the body the body shape, but underneath he's hurting a lot more than you guys think. And then you go over to mclovin, and he's you know, he's a little happy. Go lucky. And and he's always like the Irish setter of the group is kind of like if you let him out of his cherry probably just run around the room. And then you've got Pauli Pauli is kind of like in in a way, he sort of the girl voice, if you wanna think of it that way, he's he's very sensitive and kind, but he it tries to be a little on the tougher side. And then Seton is really he's like the man sensitive side. He's he's sort of the loving father kind that. But then he's got that jokester side the kind of is protective protective coating so he doesn't have to be too much of the loving father. He can be one of the guys when Dan you've got the overall overarching God voice. It says. Okay. When it's time to get the truth from a dance. Perspective. It comes over the whole room and everybody just kind of sits under that umbrella in a comfort zone. It's like three comforting for them to know that you have God boys, and that you can bring everybody back to this center of logic. And then and then they run around again. So it's like the teenagers that never grew up with the teacher kind of phone through life. You make sure they don't hurt themselves, and I could go on with this. It's pretty big chapter. I I look forward to reading it, Robert. Yeah. Yeah. I'll send you a copy. Well, thank you. That's Robert in Seattle. I think he got some of you. Right. He did not get paulie, right? Pay my disagree. He okay. He led with sensitive kind about me exactly which face value doesn't work. Yes. Mclovin. One thing about Paul. That is a girl. He's the only one who notices your pants, and if you wear the same outfit today's at a row that is a hundred no other guy, I've ever met knows if you were the same pants today's that is that is correct with paulie, but sensitive and kind oh that is far from the truth. Yeah. Maybe the kindest things interesting, but sensitive we might be thinking to mean like sensitive like, oh, hey, that's really nice. We're instead sensitive could also be like takes things personally or something like well. Hey, man, stop being so sensitive neck that cuts many different ways. Yes, we love with acute sensitivity to whatever it is going wrong with you. He will take it up share. Said that have been that way tiny share it with everybody. I can sense. What bothers you and take advantage of that. Painful matchy sensitive to your sensitivity. And then fritzy the you're hurting deep inside that we don't realize nothing now that pretty well. We've had we've joked about about that outgo drive home crying. And then I got to talk to my wife for four hours and wait, wait, wait, wait. When's the last time you drove home crying crying wind bring a little bit or replaying certain moment to the day in my head that we all do that. I do that to the degree, and you could buy talk to my wife, and we've had countless hours of therapy about you know, what do you think he meant by that? What was that E mail about? Why did he have to talk to me like that? Or is there another way of expressing that situation going that? I don't want you to be hard on yourself. Because the Russell Wilson phone line was not any good. Okay. Don't think about that. For anyone our that was not your fault. I was disappointing. You know, the fact that Russell hadn't done interviews with anybody else, and we had him on signs the richest contract and NFL history. And you would think if you've got a few bucks on you probably be able to find a phone that works. Also, you're blaming Russell Wilson aggressive. Oh got. Oh, you got the new extension and crazy money all over the place. And then and that's the audio that comes out. That's that's not good. I don't. Yes. Hurting more than you know, apparently. So. Mclovin. Did he did Robert get you? Right. I like to think of my best. Yeah. I'd like to be the the mood guy happy. Go lucky guy the Irish setter. Sometimes. Yeah. Most of the time. I think there's certain things around here that I don't get as bothered by other people, and there's certain things that bothered me more than other people. I think you're the most different of all of the dannettes outside of the man cave. He anybody disagree with that. In what way I think his personality? I think make love and comes in and his able to be mclovin. But when you see him outside of the studio, he's not, mclovin. Yes, we're writing this high of a new studio or nominated for an EMMY to second year in a row wire we doing a person by person breakdown of our personalities, and who we are. What are you got the clues dad, you should be sake? She'd. Yeah. No. But I I it's not that make love and doesn't do it. Well, he does. I just think he's more different than you guys out outside of here. I think your personality, I think, fritzy, paulie. And Seton your personalities are the same. Whether we're in here or not like, I think if we went out to dinner had beers, there'd be the same mclennan's is a little bit different. He's a phony like that. That's accurate. No, no. He's not. A little different outside. Well, he's a little creepy or outside beer. Yes. Yeah. More creep. Yes that yes. Oh, when you sit down with you at dinner, you know, what let's take a break. We're we're we're so I say so everything's that. Hold on. Now. Most of the time Todd doesn't just offer up these creepy thing. Here comes they're sort of goaded out of him where you're kind of the caddy of creepy nece to Todd's. Tiger woods. I just put down breadcrumbs. Yes. That's it. If we play that game or scruples we played it many times traffic walkaway frightened of me. And thinking that you know, I'm gonna get around. We take a break here. You're right. We're writing and emotional high new man Kei nominated for sports. Emmy that damn Robert in Seattle. Maybe this is what he wanted in this chapter. I am hurting a lot on to get you shut up your break back after this. Have you checked out the big podcast with shack your podcast one? Yeah, we talked basketball. But we're a lot more than just sports Magoo's Febres lady. 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Yes. You really do because I clearly found the wrong one he sent me into a tailspin that I'm still recovering from and it's been like five six seven years. It was a disaster. I went to therapists years ago. And I I kept asking him questions. I just I don't I I have a hard time getting. Out of that mode of if you ask me a question, then I'm gonna ask you a question as well. And he said, no, that's not how this works. And I said, but should I be able to understand you? And who you are if you're going to be asking me these personal questions I thought that that was fair. And I think I went three times. And then he agreed that I needed to find somebody that was going to be a better fit for me. Yeah. For two and the therapists has a little bit side. You can't say what's the matter? Not something your therapist today while you like on the counter or giving Xanax and Cipro by the second session. They got to kind of work with your before they start giving you the Mets. Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense there. Thank you Todd. Yes. We love Cipro. I don't know. What that is. I think it's like nothing therapists gives you is it could be confusing him an antibiotic. I've always wanted to think I did have a fungus and depression. Tuesday. You were depressed over your phone ring where it gets really sad about too long to heal. Yes point. I've always wondered if you go to therapist. How do you not hold back stuff from them like your darkest ugliest incidents because I I would assume you're supposed to tell them everything unvarnished. But don't we do that? When we go to a doctor say, so what do you been feeling? And then you don't tell him the complete true. I know lots of people who go to doctors and don't tell them everything and then expected to do their job. How would you do that? And same thing with a therapist. I could imagine telling every dark thing every dark thought every dark moment to a therapist because you don't want any human being that. But in therapy. I would think that you would have to for them to do their job. Yes. Well, you're right. I mean, if the point is you're trying to open up, you have to be honest. You just might not like what you get back. Is that the thing? So if you're if you're going there, and you're trying to figure out who you are why you are the way you are. Yeah. It's gonna be you're gonna hear things that you don't like. Todd, you you got to doctor patient privilege and you start opening up about some things. And then next thing, you know, it's in the publication somewhere. It's unlikely it's not in a public. It's also illegal Todd Fritz pervert like what what is he going to sell? You don't know the human beings publications buying that? That's a whole other question. The Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins will join us on the program tomorrow. I see what did I learn today? Lebron James can't get athlete. Superiors movie never mind playing with him on the Lakers. 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The Dodgers Meet the Rays in the World Series: Five Players to Watch and Our Series Predictions | Baseball BBQ
"Hey. What's up? Ringer MLB show listeners I'm jake mints. One of the two hosts of baseball barbecue another baseball podcast here on the ringer you're currently listening to our podcast is in the ringer MLB show feed. We hope you enjoy it previewing the world series. Our podcast comes out on Mondays it comes out on Thursdays you should subscribe to it and get it in your ear holes regularly. Enjoy the listen. Hello and welcome to baseball barbecue. The only podcast on the ringer podcast network to dislocate its shoulder celebrating a go ahead home run the. PODCAST. That is this our shoulders hurt today, but it is okay because like cody bellinger and the dodgers we are moving on to the world series I'm jake. Man's that is Jordan Shusterman Jordan. The World Series is here it is finally here many teams tried to eliminate US along the way, but we are here we have made it to the world series. We are heading down to Arlington. No, we're not. We're GONNA continue podcasting from respective homes We are very excited to finally be here and. We got a lot for the show. Of course, we're going to recap how we got here to wonderful seven game championship series. As we head into a world series featuring the two one seeds this insane season where all this crazy shit happened the marlins made the postseason. The brewers were bad and made the all kinds of insane shit and here we are the two best teams in baseball. I think we feel pretty good about that. They look like the two best teams baseball dodgers versus raised. We're GONNA get into all that of course. Jake. But we have to talk about how we got here to right. Yes we do Jordan. We're GONNA, get to all that previewing the series reviewing this. The Sierra is behind us get to all of it in a moment. Okay Jordan. To Game Sevens. The. The four best words in sports. The fourteenth for fourteen game series, there is something about a seven game series res-. A six game series to me where like the number seven The difference between seven and six feels bigger than seven and eight were like when you get to seven that's like a big. Number. That's like a Games we all. Cling other seven times I mean it's it feels biblical right? Like seven is like from the old. Testament. Does it feels like it feels like it has been gifted to us brought down on onto tablets that say game Mount Sinai Yeah Pretty Much So we don't. We'll shocking at nauseous affected. We got to game sevens, which has only happened. So many times in baseball history it was the fact that we came back from the potential dread of like four or five days without baseball. Astros down three. Oh. Dodgers down to on Wednesday. You know we last talked you recorded on Wednesday night after they made it three one and two one and it was like alright well, we got ourselves a series but we weren't by any means guaranteed to get to seven game series and now we we made it all the way to here on Monday where we are recording with no baseball. That's fine. That's fine. We've had a lot of baseball last week we will survive tonight. Let's talk about how we got here which which one you want to start with here you're. GonNa. Start with the one that's fresh that ended last night that the national over the dodgers dodgers steamrolled their way through the regular season. Best Record in the National League steamrolled their way through the first two rounds pummeled The brewers who were somehow here, and then they took care of the depleted padres in a sweep and coming into the series against the braves. It was like, well, you know we set on the spot if the dodgers don't again the greatest team of all time and then the braves came out and we do games and we were like braves the greatest of all time. Right and of course, game to kind of thrown off with Kershaw being injured but then you know the dodgers get right back in it they have that insane game where he scored eleven runs in one inning and that was supporting I mean some of these games were actually closed but then they get it back, they tie the series and then game seven was truly one of the Best Games, we've had this entire postseason now we knew that the starters both rookies Justin Manian Anderson and then Donlan coming in after may that like. We we were not expecting them to go five six things and obviously in a game seven when you have everyone available you next week necessarily good to go deep anyway. But after they started getting shaky in the second and third we were like Oh man are we in for a world series game five, two, thousand, seventeen, it's going to be twenty, five, twenty, four. This is going to go all night relievers came in lockdown and then just to absolutely titanic home runs from the dodgers late and. Dodgers advance but I mean well anything from game seven. Particularly, we WANNA cover because there were some some huge moments obviously There were two similar base running plays, both of which were outs at home There was the double play that the braves toot bland their way into view unaware with too bland means if it's an acronym thrown out on the basis like a Nincompoop and that is what happened to both Dan's be Swanson and Austin Riley, you can't. Like a a play that happens in the fourth inning so much happens after it that like the braves so could've won this game anyway but that to me was the defining moment where they had a chance to really you know build a lead, put some distance between them in L. A. and they ran into this double play it was like. If I was a braves fan, my TV would be out the window like that's that's a throw your remote level unacceptable back can't happen blunder ten Tannin spot for me and everyone was you know tweeting I saw some bridge between like okay. Well were up one by one run but it feels like down by one run because we just gifted that rally and that day ended up losing by one run is like all right well, there you go. They gifted a rally in the first inning to that could have got a lot more off of main. They had the double play but that plan the fourth inning. Swanson. Going home on that ball to third base. That's a bad. Read third base coach sending him and not getting Austin Riley to third that's a bad play Austin. Riley just like hanging out in the demilitarized zone between second and third base just like not the time not having a Boston Scoot your boot over to third base. please. So that was that was huge and then like contrasting that the Chris Taylor play where he was thrown out at home throw from Ozzy Albee's I love that play from from Taylor it was Bang Bang known as holding him on at third ended up, not really changing complexion of the game but just interesting to look at those two place and then the other thing from game from seven that I loved was. How no doubt the two key homers were. because. This is not a beef but like the Mike, Brosseau home run against the Yankees was awesome. Right. But when he hit it, I mean it got out by like a foot right and so you didn't know and there's some drama in that and following the flight of the ball and being like did he get it? Did he not? Like the Carlton Fisk down the line type thing, right? But. There is something awesome about both key homer and the bellinger homer where as soon as they made contact. Everyone knew even if you weren't watching the game you like it was just so obvious that allow them to like you know put some flare into the celebrations and like do whatever the hell they wanted and it made the moments feel. The no doubt. Ernest. homers the lack of cheapness. was like this is like the dodgers are better right like this you can't. Argue that right home runs kind of represented that to me and both those on the eighth pitch, the at Bat Aj. Mentoring Chris Martin to the best really wish the bridge. It's not like they fucked up right and this is the same thing. We the Brosseau homer that was on whatever the tenth or Eleventh Pitch. But like at some point, if you're throwing major league hitters, the same pictures over and over the probably GonNa hit it and this was a case where it's like you just run. OUTTA options and you don't WanNA walk him in a one run game or in a tie game and you end up giving up a homer and like but like you said though they absolutely crush 'em but that's the beauty of the dodgers is at like you have every literally every single person in the lineup has the opportunity to hit the ball over the fence or at least deliver maybe Chris Taylor doesn't have obvious homeland papa like Kike against the lefty obviously bellinger who by the way as. We've mentioned when we talked about his catch last week like he was MVP lesser he's the reigning national again and he's batting six because he's been merely decent this year and the dodgers are ridiculous. So like when you have that level of talent, you're just going to have so many opportunities hit a big home run or to have be hit it have a big rally and just the at bats from Muncie the at-bats from Turner like it is just relentless like sure besides the eleven running. Game, they didn't put up a billion runs the series, but man, just a quality of their ABC's is just so so so so impressive and the way the game ended was kind of odd like I was expecting so much more of a a of a tension filled experience especially in we'll talk about raise astros where at the end of raise Astra's was like, Oh my God like I need to vomit like this is insane whereas like the braves just Kinda like I don't WanNa say petered out but. The they they didn't like they went down without a fight I'm not saying that I'm saying that like the last couple of innings were low stress relatively for the moment that it was which was interesting and I guess credit to arenas for you know like not fucking around and like going after is not throwing not walking anybody, etc etc Let's let you WANNA. Say Goodbye to the raves before we hop over to the American league. Yeah. Yeah I would say that like this is listen you're gonNA make your three one jokes. Yes. Teams were twenty, twenty, eight and three up to LCS before this. Okay. That is an amazing coincidence. Atlanta sports that is tough I totally recognize that it's not great. No three one lead is ever good to blow. Okay fine. Of course, at the same time dodgers the best baseball you know that the ways that the braves one earlier in the series we're not that they were flipped like the point is is that like this sucks but the bridge's really good I feel better about the braves. Coming into the season when I already really thought that they were GonNa win the division. They have some extremely impressive building blocks in Andersen obviously Max freed and they did this all without Saroka they did this without Hamels who was supposed to be a huge part of this team I feel great about the rates moving forward and it sucks right now. But like they're going to be very good for a long time, I would say this is as unembarrassed of a three one lead blowing as you could really do. there were very few like blunder moments. I would say the base running one was a big one, but it's not like that came. In the ninth or the eighth or whatever. Like they just let up the they lost because they allowed Solo homers to good hitters in key spots and because the bottom of their order like in the big game like just didn't have the juice because you know Adam duvall has hurt and it gives it that really Kinda hurt them a little bit and I don't know like if I was a braves fan. I understand the the legacy of Atlanta sports is like Ella Look at these fools but I would not be discouraged day I would they gave us neutrals and I would imagine the fans like not just a great season. But like a lot to be very, very excited about even beyond the obvious. Kunia Freeman Group and let me say if I had to draft. If I like start a team right now. To like win one game I, think I would take Freddy Freeman I live. Right there I know Randi I know randy got headlines and everything but there was and we talked a lot about this year right the inevitability of the dodgers winning there was an inevitability of Freddy Freeman in this series where liking it felt like he was just all like every at bat was just struggle for the dodgers pitching like that dude is so so so good and I hope he gets the MVP by the way haven't even fucking mentioned it mookie robbed them of a homer. Freeman like almost homerun of this year that would have. Better, chance last point here. Sorry and we'll talk about gooky a bit more later. But mookie betts players like mookie betts like superstars who can do things that other players cannot do our how you in championships right and like the dodgers going out and getting mookie Betts, those plays he made. The here's the it's not like. The daughters were already the best team in baseball. But like when you add again, we'll talk more later like it does make a difference you could say they didn't need him but you can also see the difference that he makes. So there you go. I will talk about more. Let's move on. To the American League which ended on Saturday night after just a truly ridiculous week of baseball is the first time ever that a team blew a three a lead and then still won the series. Of course I was stunned at how infrequently teams have even gotten to a game six in a three zero series. That's like three times. Yes. Oh, I didn't realize that that was as rare as it was Let's talk about the Astros. this was an incredible performance. Like. This was an unbelievable. Just showing of nine only that. Sorry Lance you have amazing baseball players and the amazing baseball players showed up in the form of George? Springer and Jose altuve May and Carlos Correa obviously Not As much Alex fragment, but a lot of people was just bad luck This, this was ridiculous. They are not better than the raise. They have pitchers there literally using rookies for almost every inning that was not Zach Cranky or Lance mccullers ends for them to get this far at all is very impressive and honestly obviously a lot of people. Were like, Hey, fuck it like maybe I hate astros but Astra's daughters would be amazing. I think this is a good result for the season for the Astros we don't have to worry about the possibility of them winning the world series if you haven them much they showed us that they are still really good at baseball and also we don't have to worry about the takes. So I'm kind of satisfied with how this goes. Sad for dusty does he did hell of a job to but that's kind of how it would I take away from the Astros here but you know, I agree with you and I to me my takeaway is Carlos Correa is a. He is the. Perfect bad guy in a lot of ways because I think we are relatively sure that he's like like he's not an evil man. Right. He's not and so I think that he he's a good character to have and he's so fucking good dude is so good. So So yeah, I mean Houston I think you you kind of encapsulated. Perfectly. It's a good way for them to go out and fighting back from three Oh do that that's hard to do and we know that because no team has ever gotten out far other than the red sox in two thousand and four. So I- Kudos. To the Houston Astros. But Short, they did not win now they did not Tampa, Bay rays did whether they are a beam of light or a creature from the see who's to say but they are in the world series how do they do the impossible or do the possible because they were the one seat because they were the ones right. But how did they survive? I? Mean we could you know clue in on this particular game seven but I also think that like Even, though they lost three games in a row and made it Kinda Dicey They were clearly the better team this team that as we knew coming into the whole shortened season for interest to postseason was always going to have such a ridiculous depth of arms, not just talented arms but a variety of arms, a variety of arm slots of variety of loss of variety of backgrounds of variety of every possible that you could imagine a pitching staff they have it all they've got the reclamation projects. They've got the first round picks, they've. Got The super duper freaks. They've got the side armor. They've got the undrafted guys. They have everything that you could want thrown into a baseball. You know pot of amazing talented one seed. Stu and this is here here we are and again I know they survived at the end and it wasn't maybe you could say they should have swept and maybe that doesn't show great for them that they even got that close because they should just taking care of business. But I was not worried that they were not going to prevail in the end and I'm glad we will finally see them tested in an amazing contrast against the dodgers but I mean, do want to talk about the game seven in particular. You know we got another Randy homer. Of course, we're GONNA talk about Randy more later We got us a Nino homer, which was very very, very cool. UH, second homer of the series against mccullers, which was great but yeah man and then Charlie Morton like this is I mean Charlie Moore we'll talk about he is so important for them because as talented a snow and glass now are you still don't really know what you're going to get I don't trust smeller glass now I don't I I think they're both incredible pitchers rock capable of incredible things in October. Charlie. Morton adults in the room like. Is going to go out there and fucking pitch man and he's done it before he's going to do to the world series I, mean I, trust him more than any other pitcher in the world series. Like? Yeah there's I think Kershaw Trust. Kershaw more well, I don't. I will say the Charlie Ward looks, and by the way like I think it's a holiday 'cause they words been better than last two years. So like I I don't think that's not high-tech but yes, Charlie was great and look man Nick Anderson is not looking so great. He did he get runs in the game seven but but Pete Fairbanks and his go-slow demeanor. Somehow banks. Pete Fairbanks. Challenges all these assumptions I have about relievers where like you know as a college reliever. I think I know relieving where I really don't because I again was a college reliever and like doesn't really count but like Pete Fairbanks never looks like he hasn't shit together every single time he looks like a disaster he's looks wide eyed he looks frightened he looks like wedding. Sweating and like so much of being a reliever is looking like you're in control of your situation because a lot of the Times as a reliever you don't get to dictate your situation. Right? You are presented with something a mess of someone else that you are tasked with cleaning up and so. I think coaches in baseball. People have a tendency to be like that person looks like they know what they're doing Pete Fairbanks never looks like he knows what he's doing like and I know that he does because the results speak for themselves. But he's like I'm GonNa throw this fastball fucking harsh it near your letters and that's it, and like it works. It's so weird when you throw that hard man and you have and his slider in that game seven was just why. That was the key because he really out still the now the fastball command but the slider was so good that it was like well, he can get away with anything. So that is that is a very good point. Any other rays players that we WANNA, shout out I mean again, the defense is just so impressive and it's a combination of. The highlight plays and the positioning is unbelievable it's just it everything that Joey. Wendell will. No matter where he was saying bought was going right to him. It was very I wanNA talk about Willie odometer quick second because we're not gonNA talk about later even though we probably should. He is amazing. He just has the sparkle to him. I tweeted this. Meeting him for the first time and you just you see the light and someone's eyes and you can just know that like they're they're like built different and. You know. Every time the raise do something good the when they're hitting the camera cuts to the dugout and it's always him right because the camera people and the producers of the of the game on TV. They know they're trying to get good interesting responses and reactions to plays, and they know that Williams is going to do that every school time. So it's like a feedback loop right? The camera goes to Willie. He's screaming he knows that the cameras on him so he like it's it's beautiful I. Love It i. think he he's the motor for this team. I, think I just I'm enamored by him and the defense is so good. The defense is so good and he had a great offensive season like when he was on during the regular season, he was better than I ever expected him to be offensively. So yeah he's he's definitely going to be an x factor for them, but he is a lot of fun. Start your thoughts on Willie Williams. Yes. Well, tangential thoughts when people start asking me why they should listen to baseball barbecue I'm going to say because Jacob Jordan have the sparkle. That's funny phrase. got the spark. TM. Yes. Exactly. No and Willy Willy. Does have that you're so right like is the same thing with the Kunia right? Like they know whenever the braves did anything there. Let's show Kunia the dugout or let's grab her on the dugout right? Like it's the guys or it's like, oh, he'll give me a good TV moment. So very very very true but yeah. So congrats to the raise congrats the dodgers and I this is feels tangential. This is the last thing I'll say before we move to preview time. Will. Dominates. Who being what he is now is a testament to his own hard work, etc, etc. Add his own. Person I WANNA shout out Carlos Gomez here for a quick second Carlos Gomez was on the raise for one year in two thousand eighteen right when he was there he. Part of his role in that team was to kind of be the big brother at a lot of these younger players. Mostly you know a lot of these younger. Latin. Players. And he would have meals at his house where guys would come and he would cook for them and you know like he was like the father figure and I think that like there's a level of Willie adamas now were you can see Carlos Gomez in him right where it's this he's an amazing teammate right who's not afraid to express himself and be the energetic guy in the clubhouse and like based upon where Willie. was like when we met him where he was like a child like he was like a sparkly child and now like he's like a leader on this team, I think that there is a significant part of that. That is Carlos Gomez related and I know I'm the biggest Carlos Gomez Stan I know ever I noticed like everything relates Carlos Gomez in my mind, but I just think he deserves a quick moment of attention here. Imagine how good randy would be where he at those Dr. Gomez. COOKOUTS But yes. All right. Also Mexico amazing. Super happy for him Kevin Kugler Kevin Care Meyer who longest tenured ray clearly still injured and cannot really hit at all since he came back. But like still a you know whether the best defensive outfielders in the world and very happy for him because he's he's the he's the guy. Right. Now. Yeah. Last shoutout to learn Sahadi because. Yeah. The Post Game. Trophy celebration interview on TV. Having to interview someone from nine feet away where no one in the stadium was able to hear what you're saying in multiple languages through translators where there are no fans in energy is dead. I thought that was one of the wildest most difficult like sports media asks. To try pull off at. I. Know It was very awkward TV but I thought that was like. Super Notable. Lauren crush at the series and we don't need to be doing in game interviews anymore. That's not her fall. Obviously. All right. We are moving on. We will be back way too short break, and we'll be back previewing the world series between the dodgers Los Angeles, the rates of Saint Petersburg. And we are back here on baseball. Barbecue Mush like the dodgers are back in the world series for the third time in four years. Pretty Cool Jordan. It is time for five five. We've not done this in a little bit. Crack folks. It's a pretty simple segment. We're just going to save five things that we like. In an that we learn we are not reinventing the wheel. Miss. Kay's are five fave frit things. Five favorite players in the two, thousand and twenty. World Series and yes. If your razor dodger's fan because the number is five, we cannot make this. Even one of these teams will have more players in our faith five and. John with John trump pain. You mean John Tom Paine and he is not one of the managers they have just announced the umpiring. Up Lists No I am not picking last as bill, Miller Chris, Guccione Marvin Hudson Jerry, meals Mark Carlson, or todd tichenor. They are not in our faith five. Nice to see. Angel. Hernandez. Is Not involved. All right. Let's do it. Let's begin with number five Jake men say a fellow a a barely known gentleman left-handed pitcher by the name of my seeing this Clayton Kershaw tell me about him and why he's definitely one of your fav- five I like Clayton Kershaw to of course. But you really like Clayton Kershaw specially in October tell me tell me more jake i. am the chief Kershaw defender when it comes to non dodgers fans, this is not a a a crusade that I ever needed to pick up. My obligation, right? Like I could have lived my baseball analyzing life and never once wanted to defend Clayton Kershaw. I could have been one of the people tweeted tweeting Kerr choke or whatever. But no for whatever reason I am drawn to the defense of this man and the number one. Reason behind that is inside forty years when we look back on the career of Clayton Kershaw and I tell. My great grandchildren over zoom who I've never met. Because A pandemic About Clayton Kershaw I want to be able to point and say, and then he won a ring and then he won the world series and he was the best pitcher of generation and. I can't do that yet. Great pitchers of this generation have him really honestly like grandma I guess is the one but he's A. After Kershaw Sherzer. Has One. FIRM UNDER HOUSE ONE CC has one etc etc I want Kershaw get his ring he is so good. He is so iconic you. So emblematic of the dodgers team over the era and like. He's the number one. I want to get a ring guy in any sport really and It makes me so sad that he has to be the choke guy because in a team sport like this it's just not on him. It's not on his shoulders and especially now when he is slightly reduced. he's no longer what he wants. Was He still a great pitcher. But like man I love Sky Yeah Yeah and of course, as as many people have pointed out, this will be taking place in his hometown is he has been the last two rounds but in Dallas where he highland park high school where the Clayton Kershaw legend was born just a few miles from globe life feel and yeah, I, mean, look I can't disagree with it I mean, I, know I've given you should for this role that you've taken. On for no reason over the last few years but like I obviously agree with you and I think it would be great to see him have that at the same time. It's also weird for me to feel strongly about it because it's just that they've won so many thousand road he's been in the postseason so much the do thirty two it's not like this is his last dying wishing he's forty one and he just needs to happen now like he's He's probably just gonNA still really dodgers the dodgers keep winning. This is not the end. So while yes, of course, it would be nice to just get one lock it in have that ring form I agree with you It's it's not like this is. His last chance. That's definitely stress of a Kershaw. October. Start. Is Really incredible because I think ninety eight percent of people who aren't rooting for the other team or fans of the other team are just hoping that Kershaw can do it right and the people who were refurbished choke I hate that I think that's bad but that experience is so stressful like every every fifth inning sixth-inning seventh inning of a Kershaw pussies and start is just perpetual I wanNA vomit and I'm excited for that right? There shouldn't there shouldn't be any more seventh-inning Clayton Kershaw postseason start just let's get him out of there are someone who should have been in the seventh inning of postseason start great. Charlie. Morton is number four on our list for our faith five ground shock I would say he's now up chuck. Yeah There's a lot more hard now. Up. Yeah but he's still throwing singers. So our he's still getting a lot of a lot of ground balls but yes. Charlie more I will say It's good contrast here because of course, Clayton Kershaw both of these guys made their major league debut. In two thousand eight. Wow, that's crazy. That's kind of wild to think about. Okay. Now, Clayton Kershaw of course he made his debut at age twenty. He was a super phenom. He was a first round pick blah blah blah blah blah. Charlie Morton. WHO's decent high school pitcher third round pick whatever he is just like a fine boring major league pitcher for almost ten year I mean maybe eight years he's just like fine. He's fine. He's on the braves then he's on the pirates for a long time just hanging out by the way no one ever talks about Charlie Morton being another pirate seating. On the ray now obviously because he went to the Astros and became amazing and was world series hero before handed up in Tampa but I do think that's funny. But I think the Charlie Morton career arc is absolutely tremendous. He wins the world series of the Astros and seventeen, and again at that point we were like, okay like. What a story thirty-three-year-old Reclamation Project Charlie more than. I can't believe he did he won his ring right that could have been the end of the Charlie Morningstar. He could. Honestly, he could have just retired. Great. Oh Wow. What a career I did it instead he was like, why would he retire? He just goes new superpower. Our right but it's like wait a minute. Let's see how good I really an eighteen. Absolutely amazing with Houston goes into free agency and then as even better last year to third in the CY young. And in this year, he you know coming into this saints season he had quotes listen like I'm thirty six. There's a pandemic. This isn't. I got kids man I got like eight kids. Yeah. I don't I don't need to do this anymore like this is fun I'm making money and I'm playing baseball but like this is like this but now it's like Oh shit like you're the most important picture on the team is trying to win the world series against the dodgers again. There's locked-in Superhero vibe to Charlie Morton. Where you know like in every hero movie where it's like? Oh the super like the the hero doesn't want to leave his house in like save the day again, and like you know they send like the FBI or government agents to the house like we need you. We need you to pitch in Charlie warns like law washed up I got nothing left and they're like, you're the Byu throw ninety eight like what are you talking about like just competitive as like fine. Fine if I must if I must come and throw strikes unlike my fellow my fellow rotation mates and the thing about this series is a. was, rooting. For Astros dodgers but Charlie Morton was a huge reason that. The totters long. Seventy. He threw the last pitches and the fact that the dodgers will have to defeat. Charlie, Ward, once again is very, very, very compelling. All right. Let's move on to number three jugement who's number three from the man to Japan it is Choi Man. Demand, Choi. First BASEMAN TAMPA BAY rays, bundle of joy, bringer of smiles, swinger of hard swings. this gentleman during we went on a podcast called tipping pitches at the beginning of the season podcast hosted by our producer Bobby Wagner. And we did a gift draft gifting drafting players rethought would create the most entertaining gifts and we selected G. Men Choy, and I would like to say that was a good pick very good package great not as great value but just an overall objectively fantastic selection. Now, our other Joanna cesspit is not as good of a pick. Made up for it. So it made sense g. man is is a fantastic personality. He's fantastic baseball player the fact that he's been around for. So long now like I know a lot of people are now just getting acquainted to Jim He's twenty nine he signed with the mariners when he was eighteen, he never played in the show and he bounced around the minors was on a bunch of different teams, and of course, where else would he find the ultimate success and we had some moments in Milwaukee where else but where would he find the ultimate success? Then with Tampa Bay, and he's just so much fun and like he's really important bats fourth when they're facing right? He's like he's not just like, oh ha ha g man he's really good and I'm sure he'll have at least one giant homer in the series and it'll be very cool. His swing is very different from I think a lot of power hitters he's like way quicker to the ball. It's like whittier than you might expect from a guy, his size, I mean he's six, one, two, hundred, sixty pounds and he regularly just like does the splits. At, first base and. In an era of. How do baseball players exhibit joy and emotion? He is very unique in that. You kind of like. He just like is always making like faces and reacting, and in the way that you can always cut the Willie at us for a camera shot, you can always do that G. man. and I think like we'll get a g man. Also weights are laughing the fact that he's just like unlocked Garrett Cole is also not related to the series but super funny to me. Yeah. And I will say I mean it's not just splits like part of that is like he's a fantastic defender like. It's wild to watch like he's a huge part of I know Joey Window keep scooping everything up but Joel Wendell is not exactly been throwing the ball at your late first base every time like he's given them short hops all the time and he's just scoop scoop scoop. It's been great. So G. Man, we love Jim and I by the way, listen not happy that there are fans in stance. I will say that however I will admit that G. man is probably going to feed off the crowd more than the average player and that will be cool. All right. Let's move on to number two gentleman who's a little bit might listen. We've talked plenty about this guy as we should have. A little bit about Mr Mookie Betts. I would say my second favorite baseball player behind financial flexibility. And I, it's tough because when I was trying to Jersey to get It was close financial flexibility was sold out. So I ended up. Oh Man, you get the luxury luxury tax. mookie. Betts. One of the definitive top five, probably top two players in baseball. Got Traded to the dodgers on that. Then he signed a lifetime extension despite having never played with them, but like the real the real result of this. Has Been exactly what which is that you add the best one of the three best players in the League to the best team in baseball and you get a team that is very, very hard to beat because he's just like you're raising the ceiling of a team that already had high ceiling. So okay well, but how the fucker supposed supposed to be the dodgers and that's basically what the braves realize because even though Mucci wasn't out of this world offensively. Really at all during this postseason, his defense is four straight time gold glove winner has been unbelievable in every possible way and I know you know the defense can only go so far in making you the best one of the best players in the league, but his is very much a part of that and it is a difference maker. The postseason is a crap shoot in terms of WHO's hitting well. Obviously. Better. Players are going to hit better in October and there's maybe a little bit of influence regarding clutch or the ability to do it in a big game, etc etc. But for the most part, it is just a random roll the dice for how well you're locked in for particular you know fifteen game stretch. And you can get. Randy arose arenas who get really hot and you can get your you know cody bellinger 2017 where you don't get a hit for like a week and a half right but defense defense does not really slump and so when you have Mukhi bats and he's hitting fine at the plate, you can still count on him saving the game three separate days in a row in the outfield right? That's what makes him different and he still liable for the world series to just catch fire and hit four home runs and win the world. Series. MVP, and that's what makes him different. Yeah and I mean he's hitting three eleven opposing but he doesn't have a homer. Obviously Cory seager has been carrying the load offensively for the dodgers offense and he's been spectacular But like you said, defense basically doesn't ever slump and it can be such a big difference and again like that will be a huge matchup in the series is is to wash these two teams who can just be in more of the right spots and make more of the crazy place to aright. Awesome. Yeah Let's those President Randy arena. So Jordan on our on our I think it was our DS preview pod. Or. Maybe I don't know. The DSP. It was it was definitely after. The the wildcard or whatever is said something along the lines of keep an eye on randy arose arena. which was the understatement of the century. Keep keep. My eyes off of him forget again. I on him. I really can't look away because. Okay. He has twenty one hits. He has seven homers. He has a twelve hundred zero p. s he is banning third. He is I insist such a ridiculous thing like again what he did against the Yankees. I mean it could have been. My fellow tries not Diana that that was it man whether there could have been more than enough. You fricken showed up against the Yankees. Great go over twenty for the next round. Sounds good. Hey guess what he'd Radio Roseanne has no idea what the AINU it. So he was like fucking I'm GonNa keep hitting home runs passionate Christian Pasha might but that's neither here nor there if you want the full randy arena origin story Gory James Wagner's piece in The New York Times highlights how Randy's experiences in Mexico after defecting from Cuba kind of have built who is person in the Bondi fill that country and how randy rose arena became re randy rose arena is really article I was just GonNa add. Also, want to review our guest who came on and Garin Jaffa. has also written some fantastic. Pieces on Randy I encourage you go check out on emily dot com but yeah, mean the the legend goes on Willie ADAMAS on L. Network the other day called him Latin. Kevin Hart. Just personality wise which I thought that was pretty funny of so apparently he is I mean clearly he's I on a an amazing player but like very very funny and cool person. I have a general. Like people calling him like the Cuban mookie Betts I- sneaky hate it and I think he's just randy rose ran like I. think there is something useful to using that as A way to explain randy arose random people who've never seen him play. But like I think at this point, he's just randy rose arena like, yeah he and he's earned that absolutely and I mean this is a bigger longer saying that drives me crazy about all sports. Opinions is we just WanNa make comparisons and I don't like just let him be randy man like why does you have to be somebody else just let the we're watching him be himself and do all these things that you like doesn't have to remove you bet sees doing his own thing and It's very fun to watch so and I've been thinking a lot about what specifically trying to unpack what about randy rose arena has been so beautiful over the last couple of weeks. Right we get. Anonymous guys becoming posing euros all the time. It happens regularly, right? That's not different to us. And, there's always something wonderful about someone coming out of nowhere and becoming the story and you know like, okay like if cory seager gets hot and wins the MVP, it's like well, yeah. Like he's been one of the best baseball players in the world and like even four cory seager that is an accomplishment, but it is not life notable it's. In. The cards for Cory Seager? Yeah. It's just another notch on the resume but like for Randy arena and you can see it in the ways carrying himself. These are the greatest weeks of his life right and it's not close. You know I guess outside of what he's kid be born etc like this. These moments are him becoming what he's always wanted to be and were we get to watch it and like that is just it's incredible to me and then the other layer of it is like when Steve Pearce or whatever the fuck gets hot in the world series Tony Romm gets a couple cody Ross he gets a couple home runs. It's like Oh that's incredible. Very rarely do we see a guy who he maybe didn't know about two years ago or you know not that many people knew about a month ago look like the greatest player on the planet Radio Rosary is not just regular hot right now rates is. Like. The ludicrously locked in and looks like he's the best player on the planet and we don't see that these. Are. Not supposed to last for this long even in the crazy. Oh random dude shows up in the postseason. It's a couple of big homers as does not Howard Yulia post-season homer with postseason hero with one moment like this he has seven home runs like it's. So. RIDIC- Twenty one hits. It's not like he's just going up there at like he's working walks he's like he's I mean it's it's really it's so ridiculous. Perhaps. There's a conversation to be had about what is Randy Arosa? Truly moving forward but let me say this that conversation we can wait a couple of weeks. Everybody we don't need to ask. This is related to what you said about comparisons in sports like randy rose arena is he injured mccutchen? Is He a grace is more he Mike Trout? Fucking Care Right now let's have that stupid conversation in a month. Is. He A to in players foreign player. I don't give a shit. Let's just for the next week. Let the joy in and allow the wonder of what Randy Rosa Raina is in this moment. Dominate dictate the way that we feel about him as a player and as a person, and I would just encourage people to do that Bingo Bingo Bingo Wilson. All right. Let us move on here from our faith five two ages. Overview of his series on, we've already covered a lot. So we don't have to think too deep, but we both. Have our own thing that we want you finally centers to be thinking about as we head into the series that we don't think has generally been discussed There's a million things could pick. We've already talked about a lot of players in series, but Jake Mints Start us off with your under the radar. So called a storyline of this year world series that begins on Tuesday, I'm tempted to switch to my dodgers lost Bruce Star greater all trade take but I'm going to put that on ice and save it for the after the world series. So we just go out there and let people You know there's like for movies there's like a teaser trailer and then the real preview that's the teaser trailer I think the dodgers loss of restart trait but. I'm GonNa Talk About Globe death. Field. The Los. Angeles dodgers boys have played the last Ten Baseball Games at Dodge at a globe the field they have been in the Dallas area for like two and a half weeks at this point on their accustomed to it, etc etc. The timothy raise as I speak to you on. Monday. Afternoon are probably in the Air Flying Texas. They will maybe get a chance for like a light workout tonight at global field. Before they play game one of the world. Series tomorrow. I. Don't know how much of a difference the familiarity difference is GonNa make but it feels notable to me that. You, know one of these teams has played their last ten games in this. Admittedly. Incredibly Bizarre unique and influential stadium as we've seen and the other team has literally never played there. It opened this year Tampa dim playtex this year because of the way the schedule worked they've never been to the stadium. They're not going to get really a chance I. Don't think to do a full practice there. By the end of the world series, they'll probably get a you know accustomed to it but in Game One that. Could sneaky matter I don't think it will dictate who wins or loses the series, but it's just something to keep an eye on. Yeah. No I totally agree with you and the dodgers notice last time they played three there during the regular season, right? So the dodgers no the stadium if it's not obvious not that he's tremendously talented clearly, mookie knows the outfield pretty well. The have played the second most games of any team in the history of global I field exactly and and and it's not just that it's the infield. There's been a lot of talk about how fast the ball moves on the turf. There are going to be sunny to adjust to now listen if there's any team and personnel I trust to adjust quickly it's Williams and joy Wendell. It's Manny Margot and Kevin Kumar these are some of the best defenders in the world. So I'm not that worried but I think it is a great point when you look at the bizarre dimensions and the turf and how the ball moves. If we got the stupid as wind tunnel again, like there's all kinds of weird things that clearly the raise will not have been accustomed to. and that's GonNa be that's going to be A. Fair a fair thing to bring up the dodgers are clearly comfortable. So weird that is played ten fucking straight games like what? As long as a raiders homestand, like it is it is so bizarre they've been in that hotel long enough to put their clothes in the drawers of Tell Room. For. Sure. which is that's really when you know you've been an extended stay. Okay. My storyline that I'm going to bring up is pretty hyper specific but I was doing some digging because I was looking at WHO's going to be game. One looks like it will be tyler glass now it's one or not. He's likely going to be pitching a lot in this series and I was like Hot Jala glass now like, okay we'll. The reason everyone has he ever even faced the dodgers went back and I looked I saw that tyler glass now the pirates face the dodgers three. Times, all of which and relief all of which were total disasters and I think that's interesting because he he faced them twice in Pittsburgh in eighteen gave two homers both to cody bellinger two days apart. Then he came in in dodger stadium a month later walked turner box turn a second walked bellinger like this was the bad tyler glass now facing the dodgers and I, think this is going to be very fun to see Taylor glass now who I'm sure remembers these outings when he was coming in as a rookie facing still at that point, you know the best team in. Baseball. And show them like look I don't suck anymore like, yeah I. Still One hundred like I did then but I know what I'm doing and I'm very excited for the taller glass. Now we're bench tour because I'm sure the doesn't like the doctors don't know the Todd West knows different now but it is essentially a different pitcher and I think that'll be very fun to watch. Especially if he pitches if he's pitching game one and go seven games, we might seem three times right so. I'm very excited for glass now in the series. So that is what I am. Looking. Forward to a little bit under the radar Jason said it's time to make predictions I think perhaps yes Jordan before this postseason began. You came on this podcast and with the confidence of a white man you. Absolutely unequivocally. Stated you stated that the twins and the cubs would meet in the world series. I would like an apology on. The American people? I'm so glad that you are in. Fat Because. I can think back to the exact moment when I said it and it could not have been more opposite in fact, did our predictions. Realize we were going to be doing predictions to the point where I was like fuck it twins cubs. Twins coax. Yeah. I. Would like to characterize Jordan's prediction as like a leaf in the wind. He was convinced by our guests who came on where the most fun. We had one. Player on the world series. On. The playoff preview podcasts it was IAN happened Jordan was convinced by that. Like a leaf in the wind, you don't have the courage of your convictions. No but again, I I literally. I wasn't even thinking about making world subscription. So I said twins cups now terrible terrible. Now do they do they were terrible we discussed earlier and for what could have been the worst prediction and it is probably the reds really would have been the only other worst prediction I I would say but in terms of just like teams that people actually thought had a chance to make a run and looked like shit it would be the reds and this is notable and you know that introduction was was just you know rag on Jordan. He like Jordan is usually very good at predictions. He at times has been a baseball oracle. He can kind of feel things out in the middle of the game. He does have a sense for it and used a put any PREPA to that, and that's fine. But Jordan let's turn our eyes forward. Here, to this world series in front of us are about to embark on. How many games will it go? Who will emerge victorious? Who Will Win? The MVP and who is someone? That your grandfather. Does Not know about who he will text you about in the next week. This this is a great great categories here. Great Great Awards. All right. I've given this one more thought. I did recklessly throwing out twin cub twins, cubs, twenty minutes after talking to you and Hap I've given this a little bit thought. And I have decided. That the dodgers will be winning this one Jake mince I have decided that once again I by the way, let me quickly get myself a little more credit I said dodgers and seven against the braves. I was correct I will double down. On dodgers and seven. against the Tampa Bay rays. Think it'll be a great series. The rays have a great chance I think dodgeville finally, fucking win the Goddamn world series. As for MVP. I will go ahead and say well, it will be mookie Betts Course Eagles slow down a little bit I think mookie betts will heat up hit a couple big homers and it'll be McKee and I and I will listen this is me going back on saying like picking Chaka's boring dodgers and seven rookie vets MVP Player that my grandpa will text me about he's more of a phone call kind of guy. He's not he's not a big. That's fine if but if he does call me. He will be calling me about Max Muncie. It'll be about maximum. There you go. Okay. Next month you'll be the guy. So they're gonNA there's actually no no. Sorry. Sorry. It'll be. May It'll be definitely dust audis hitching because just turn right? He's watching world series he knows about Justin Turner already but Dustin may he'll be like what? What the Hell's going on there? They turn converted to a Pitcher yeah. Taller. It looks like a clown. Pretty much is that Shaun White. There is my pick dodgers and seven mookie. Betts Mvp what you got chickens daughters and seven is well Jordan Shusterman. Finally do it but I, think this is going to be a long competitive series. My world series MVP is going to be Clayton Kershaw. He will pitch game one. He will start he starting game. One He will start. Game Five. And he will relieve a game seven and he will quash squash the demons joined Shusterman. He will do it. You're so desperate you're asking for more than what is possible this is the thing you are. You're going to be content with just like five scoreless six an hour. But then he's gone out center relief appearance baby. Jake is still dreaming. Jake's thinking sits twenty thousand fifteen. All right. Both of my grandfathers have passed from this earthly realm. So they will not be calling me about ten things Muncie and your your grandfather believe he has my phone number however I do I do have. I do and I do have a I have some aunts who I believe will be turning in. Tuning into this game and so I will pick. I will pick tyler glass now actually because he'll tall and so handsome and I think someone I'm related to is going to catch a glimpse of tyler glass now from a TV they're not watching and be like who is that Andrews Man Vic That's a great pick. I look forward to seeing how Tommy Shelby does in this world series now before we leave Jordan. I want to briefly bring up the Christian. Pasha Jewish star conversation. Okay. Okay. Her. Vision finds out but go ahead the route now's the time Christian. outfielder for the Atlanta Braves has been wearing a Jewish star of David. Necklace the entire series now Jordan and I, if you weren't able to tell are both Jewish shit and so the overlap of being two kids who went to Jewish school and right and talk in our baseball e a means that we've got many inquiries regarding the Jewishness of a man named Christian now. The share overlap of a Dominican guy named Christian. is in extremely low likelihood. Of Judaism There is a small Jewish population in the Dominican Republic very interesting backstory should go read about it but despite that I remained sceptical. Now we have received mixed reports I would say over the last week or so. Christian. Heritage we just received one from a relatively reliable source that is Christian. Pasha's mother is indeed Jewish. We put the work in just to let you know. And Still, inconclusive will not be convinced until Mr Paci comes out and Dobbins with us on Russia, when it's safe to come. Come come to my sucker. But. Thank you for that update. It is something we'll be tracking as as the World Baseball Classic approaches in Twenty. Twenty? Two. Jon Morosi will be all over it. Would have been journalistic malpractice not to bring that up. That's true. That's true. It would have been an indictment on your. After game seven, I know he thought about I'm sure Jay considered if he had link to zoom he would. Not, the time or place clever way not the time or place. All right Jake minutes. Thank you for that Wonderful Day. Thank you for podcasting with me. Thank you to Bobby, Wagner, for producing this excellent episode. Oh, you can decide if it's excellent but I'm deeming excellent and we will We'll be back here on Thursday another episode after the first two games of the world series between the dodgers and the race, and we'll see which of us are looking I. Guess we both pictures and seven. So in in series off day yeah I forgot that was legal but indeed, we will be returning to a regular schedule of baseball games which by the way happened flying very well with this podcast off base will be Thursday and then next Monday so you're welcome All. Right. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you all later this week. Go Randy go. Ringer MLB show subscribers we hope you enjoyed this edition of Baseball Barbecue. We hope you feel prepared. 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