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The man who made Donald Trump a TV star

The Frame

26:30 min | 2 years ago

The man who made Donald Trump a TV star

"From the Mon broadcast center at K P, C C. This is the frame, I'm John horn on today's show Sony Music is cutting ties with controversial r and b artist R Kelly what was the final straw. Then a New Yorker journalist on how television producer Mark Burnett and his reality show, the apprentice turned Donald Trump into a TV start and a viable candidate for president. As I tracked down these people who worked on as early seasons of the show. They all told me we reinvented him on screen and actress Isabelle Rossellini has become the ringleader of her own circus all that coming up on the frame. Welcome to the frame. I'm John horn on January third. Lifetime premiered, the documentary series surviving R Kelly and it included women who recounted their alleged experiences of being abused by the R and B singer, many of those stories were not new but taking a whole they were striking R Kelly has never been convicted of a crime, but the accounts of his alleged abuse have been public for decades. And the fact that he's gone largely unpunished and kept making records led to a social media campaign called mute R Kelly and there was pressure on his label RCA to drop him today that happened with reports that Sony Music RCA's parent company is cutting ties with Kelly to find out what prompted this move. I spoke with gem as he senior music editor for variety. I'll start by saying are Kelly has not been convicted of any crime having said that as the recent series. Surviving are Kelly showed multiple multiple women accused him of sexual misconduct, and frankly, it's appalling sexual misconduct. These allegations date back to the mid nineteen ninety s he was prosecuted on child pornography charges beginning I think the trial began in two thousand one, but you know, there was a sex tape that reportedly featured him with an underage girl performing sexual acts that the girl in the video declined to testify. So he was acquitted five years after the trial began more accusations bubbled up last summer, I think the term was sex cult that women were essentially being brainwashed. And he was holding them in homes that he owns and they weren't being allowed to go to the bathroom without his permission. They had to call him daddy food would be withheld from him again. None of the. He's not been convicted of any crimes, but all you have to do is watch survivor are Kelly, and you're seeing extensive accusations of this kind of behavior. So there's not only the lifetime series. But very recently a manager for our Kelly turned himself in in Georgia on charges that he had threatened the man who had accused the R and B singer of holding his daughter captive. Do you think those two things accelerated this things reach again? You know, what's surprising to me is that it took a documentary. I mean, albeit a very hard hitting and very upsetting documentary to bring all this to light because there was new testimony in that documentary. And you know, there may have been some some new accusations. But there was very little new information. But combine that with me to combine that with the culture that we're in it. Moment combine that with the government. We have at the moment and the situation became untenable. The situation have been on tenable frankly for quite some time. But as Spotify discovered last year, you might remember that Spotify tried institute a policy against hateful conduct. That would have banned are Kelly from its playlist now his music still would have been available on the platform for for anyone who wanted to listen to it. But it wasn't going to be featured in the playlist now they didn't define that policy. Very well. So people were able to say, well, look are Kelly hasn't been convicted of anything. Do you have convicted felons on your roster? And I assume they did are you going to drop them to and eventually they had to walk back the policy. So it's a very the fact that our Kelly has not been convicted of anything makes this very difficult to enforce on moral grounds. We did something about the lifetime documentary series recently. And we got a response from a listener who tweeted. Saying that part of the reason that he was allegedly able to get away with what he was purported to be doing for so long is that the victims or the reported victims were black girls and black women. Do you think race has been in any way, a part of this conversation? Yes, absolutely one thousand percent unquestionably, and as they say the documentary, and as they say in many of the articles that have been written about this for the last twenty five years if these things had happened to white women he would have been in jail time ago. How think public activism and social media had to do at least in making RCA make decision to hashtag mute are Kelly as been trending on social media. Somebody flew a plane over the record label with a banner saying drop our Kelly. Do you think that factored into the conversation or the pressure that was on the label? It definitely factored in. I wouldn't say any of those things were decisive, but all those things contributed. I would note that at the very beginning of this year. I think it was on January third RCA did announce that it had signed a new deal with Chris Brown. Which you know? I mean, Chris Brown has served his time. Okay. He beat up riana. I mean, he beat physically beat up somebody. But as I said he served his time for that. So you know, I mean again, and I'm not placing any value judgment on this whatsoever. I think that is you know, completely inexcusable and horrible, but he did serve his legal time for it. You know? But again it comes down to optics. You know, I mean I had to do that. When the R Kelly controversy was heating up again wizard was a fairly questionable move. Let me see this last question are Kelly. If he does sever from RCA still has some music he can still play, right? I mean, can you still have a career even if this label has dropped him? Yeah. Yes. He can he has a very dedicated fan base. The only way that it's really affected him business. Wise is in his touring, and that is a very lucrative business, obviously. And he's had to. Ansel a lot of concerts, but it's entirely conceivable that he can release music independently because all he has to do is put it up on soundcloud or YouTube or somewhere like that. Or he could find a smaller independent label to distribute his recordings so his his career dead. No, his career was flagging a bit to be honest with you, you know, he laughed had a big hit twelve years ago. I would say, but that's not to say that he has not still been making money because he has. Is senior music editor for variety. He joined us by phone from his office in New York gem. Thanks so much for coming back on the show. Thank you. Coming up on the frame, the New Yorker writer, Patrick rawdon kief on how the apprentice creator. Mark Burnett turned Donald Trump into a TV star. Southern California, the home of Hollywood dodgers is kneeland sometimes it feels like paradise. But any second now that could change a big earthquake is coming. This will happen. There's no likelihood of not happening. We are not stopping Playtex when the earthquake hits our world will be shaken. So what can you do to prepare? I'm Jake Margolis host of KPCC's new podcast the big one your survival guide. Listen an apple podcasts. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John horn. Thanks for joining us. That's been a fair amount of discussion about Donald Trump as the first reality TV president. But what about the man who actually made the reality TV show that helped reinvent Trump British television producer, Mark Burnett is the creator of the apprentice before that he produced the American version of survivor, and since then shows like the voice and shark tank. Patrick radan. Kief a staff writer for the New Yorker recently profiled Burnett for the magazine, he did not interview Burnett himself in recent years, Burnett has declined to talk about the apprentice or Donald Trump, but kief did speak with many of permits friends colleagues former wives and several former producers and editors of the apprentice when I reach kief by Skype today, he explained burnett's relationship with Donald Trump, Burnett has said that the Trump is soul mate, he said that his relationship with Trump has been one of the most cherished important relationships of his life and on the one hundred very different for netted entirely self made. He came from a working class family in east London. Whereas Trump dodge the draft Burnett when often joined a parachute regiment, British army. But in another way, they're very very similar, which is that they both. I think see the world in a pretty dog eat dog terms. I think they share of you that life is a con. Test and that it's all about winning. And I think they have another thing in common, which is that they both seem to believe that Americans are fundamentally gullible about certain things, there's a kind of lowest common denominator aspect to American culture. And yet they're both really enthusiastic about selling things to those people such a quote that I found from an event that Burnett did with Trump years ago in which Burnett said, you know, the thing about Americans is there's a few things that they'll pay for the pay to grow hair, they'll pay to have sex, and they'll pay to have somebody teach them how to be rich and not time he explained his motivation for any Prentice with Trump one of the things that I think has most fascinating about the reporting that you did is the way that Donald Trump was seen before. And then after the apprentice on radio, quote from one of the show's producers Jonathan Braun most of us knew he was a fake he just gone through. I don't know how many bankruptcies, but we made him out to be the most impose. Shortened person in the world. What did that mean to them and the way that they put the show together? And then how quickly did that start to change the way that he was viewed as I track down these people who worked on his release seasons of the show. They all told me we reinvented him onscreen. Yeah. Deal was we're gonna take this guy at all these bankruptcies, he was kind of failure. And we're gonna make him out to be this total master of the universe, and they sort of needed to do that. Because that was the only way that plausibly you could build this show in which you have all these people were pretty pretty impressive early candidates. And that you would believe that these candidates wanted to come and give up their job at Goldman Sachs to try their best to become a protege to don't Trump and the way they did that on the show took a number of forms. But they they would always do these very dramatic entrances. A lot of time if you watch those early seasons Trump is forever. She's riding around in helicopters or climbing out of limousines, and there's a huge amount of stuff done at Trump Tower him coming down the escalator in this tense music in this idea that he's really this. Great potentate who comes in. They made him out to have kind of impeccable judgement in. What was surprising to me in talking to all the people who work on the show is that they did all this editing travel? Let me ask you this Michael he's killing he's going after she should be fired according to him, and you're trying to stop him from talking Mr. Trump out. Hey, look, you claim to be like me the differences. I work hard. You've been lazy been nothing, but trouble. And now you cut them off as they're fighting each other for who should be fired. Michael, Michael, miss your fire. And one of the things that is obvious is a lot of things that Donald Trump, and the people who worked with around him noticed is that there was something about the apprentice, they could borrow so what did he take away from the apprentice in the way that he wanted to cast himself and shoot himself and present himself in the world. Trump has always loved the experience of the apprentice the show really did reinvent him. His obsession with ratings goes back to the early days of the apprentice when he would follow the ratings the show really closely, and there's a philosophy that some people who were involved in that show have which is that part of the reason he ran for president was that he was trying to kind of recapture that magic. So the apprentice was still on at the point where he announced it was you know, he conceivably could've come back for another season. But by that point, the ratings were quite bad, it'd become the celebrity apprentice, and what Trump did was he filmed the actual announcement. When he announces that he's gonna run for president the. Entrance that he makes his in the lobby of Trump Tower coming down the escalator just as they did many many times on the apprentice. That is some group of people thousands, so nice. Thank you very much. That's really nice. Thank you. In fact, it's funny detail, but there are a lot of people there that day when he made the announcement clapping and applauding they're all lined up around the lobby and it turns out they were all day players. You would hire to be on TV show like a paid fifty bucks. A pop to go there and applaud, but it's not just that Trump recently has started doing these these video addresses outside of the west wing. So that you'll have these videos released on Twitter where you see him looking right into the cameras in the rose garden, and he's been known to actually tell camera people who film him what he says shoot me like they shot me on the apprentice. There are so many people in Hollywood who are attracted to wealth and success at the same time. A lot of those people are no fans of Donald Trump. So there's a turning point in the town's relationship with Mark Burnett, and it seems to change Mark. Br Annette's relationship to the media, and it happens at the twenty sixteen Emmys what happens there, so the twenty sixteen Emmys Jimmy Kimmel was the host and at this point the election is coming up, but it hasn't happened yet. So Donald Trump of was the Republican candidate at that stage and drink Kimmel's monologue. He suddenly gets into this digression where he says he's talking about TV, and he says no TV's Greg is a brings people together. But it can also split us park. Many have asked who is the blame for Donald Trump, the Donald Trump phenomenon and I'll tell you because he's sitting right there. That's right. That guy the live at this point cuts. Tamar burnett. Was this awkward frozen grin on his face? I'm going on the record right now. He's responsible. If Donald from gets elected, and he builds that wall the first person we're throwing over it. As Mark Burnett. Spoken. It was interesting moment because it happens in this very public way. And after that you counter Mark Burnett. Stop going award shows by in large. I want to mention a number two, you sixty thousand hours, and that is a specific figure about how many hours of outtakes there might be from the apprentice. And there's a couple of questions one is what does Donald Trump say or not say all of those outtakes and the second question is who controls those outtakes where are they physically and might they ever see the light of day the footage is now controlled by MGM where Mark Burnett chairman of television MGM acquired marker next company and in so doing they acquired this Arcot. So the archive I believe is in in a number of different locations than the footage is in different formats, but it's all controlled by MGM and GM says legally they cannot release. Any of this material for variety of reasons? Well, they could they would get sued. But it's nothing criminal be a civil complaint. But it's not like they would be thrown in jail. Yes. I mean, I think that the the reality though, is they don't intend to release anything Burnett doesn't intend to release anything. So the only way that this stuff would come out would be somebody leaked it. The the second question that is important here. An interesting is you know, what kind of material would be in those outtakes. I talked to enough people who are on the show to become pretty persuaded that there's a lot of Trump saying pretty inappropriate things to about women anything that rises to the level that you got the access Hollywood tape. I don't know. I mean, this is one of the tricky things Trump is that he sets the bar so high and terms of inappropriate behavior that anything that doesn't match. It comes to seem positively harmless as for the racial slurs. This was an interesting one. I kind of went into this believing that probably there were tips of him, for instance, using the N word which has been widely rumored, but I spoke to enough people who worked on the show who really don't like Trump. But also don't believe that such tape exists that I came out believing the probably doesn't Tony Schwartz who go throat Donald Trump's book, the art of the deal has come to say that he regrets working on the book, and what it did to enable and empower Donald Trump, even if people who worked on the apprentice didn't vote for Donald Trump. They were trying to make a successful show. And it was a successful show for Weil. Do they regret what they did on the show? I talked to any number of people who said that they toss it intern at night and feel some shame about the sense of complicity that they feel in having put a man into the White House who in most instances, they believe really should. Shouldn't be there. The really interesting thing about this story, right? Is that the one person who seems pretty untroubled by his kind of authorship in? This whole episode is Mark Burnett. Patrick Radan kief is a staff writer at the New Yorker. He is the author of the article hell Mark Burnett resurrected Donald Trump as an icon of American success. Patrick, thanks for coming on the show. I sure haven't. Coming up Isabel Rossellini has run off and join the circus. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John horn Isabela Rosellini is famous for many things for being the daughter of Ingrid Bergman and filmmaker Roberto Rossellini for her career as a glamorous model, and for her riveting role in one of David Lynch's, creepy or movies. But lately she's been writing and performing short films and stage shows that focused on her fascination with the animal kingdom Rossellini recently met with frame contributor khloe velopment at the California kademi of sciences in San Francisco, it's where they chatted about training. Dogs. Breeding chickens and making theater as exotic birds and butterflies fluttered above. That's is a Bella Rossellini in an intense scene. From the nineteen Eighty-six thriller blue velvet, these days the actors wild animal instincts at coming out in a very different way. Isn't it wonderful that the big bad wolf was taken out of you? And now, you are jet that little nice doggy. That's Rossellini and had dog pan that coming to LA later this month with link Ling circus stage show all about animal behavior, the tool also how to stop in San Francisco, and it seemed like the California academy of sciences was a perfect place for us to meet different colors. They have these butterflies amazing. Wow. Oh, yeah. You put in just there to attract them see the come to the dish. Do you think a creature like that has emotions historic? You know, I mean are so far from us. No, not gonna know that don't even ever backbone spine. So he's harder when he comes to animals that are closer to us, eighths chimpanzee gorilla. One can imagine that we share a lot in common. It's a little surreal to be strolling around the Calcutta me's full story replica of a tropical rainforest on a cold wet Monday evening with this Hollywood icon Rossellini just flown in from Seattle. Even though she's tired from all the travel. She still exeeds elegance and an impish sense of humor. She tells me she's been interested in the animal kingdom since she was a little girl. So I all SCA about sheltered Fettes what my parents always had dogs and cats. So I think the first connections were the pet at home. But we are family of animal lovers was a photo of the family recently, and we are five people and we were photo. Autograph with our dogs and dogs. The dogs outnumbered. You went back to school to get him all SIS degree in animal behaviour. What's one of the most surprising things you've learned about the relationship between animals, and humans in the coastal studies found out things that were fascinating the process off domestication was unclear to me is still unclear but of course, wolf became the dog buffalo became the cow. Wilder foul became domestic chickens and how our ancestor without even into standing of Lucien. We're able to create animal that were useful to themselves that to me is fascinating process. Ling circus builds on a series of films and performances you created about the mating and parenting habits, various animals, spiders, hamsters bees. And so on why did you decide to Polly your academic pursuits into theatrical ones says an actress I also did a lot of independent film. So I was associated with sand dancer, and they asked me would you like to make? A series of two minutes film. But if it is about the environment because Robert Redford is such a great environment. This we will be more inclined to finance it. I I sent what to do. And then I said, oh, we could do the mating ritual of animal. It could be very simple for safer were fly become a fly this way. If it were an earthworm mattress for myself, you northwood on they make that way they ordered the series, and he was very successful. The really opened up a whole new career for me in my sixties. What makes this latest show different from your previous animal, focus productions these one is made a little bit like a circus. There is also a little doggy tell us please about what she'll be doing on stage. She does dressed up as different animals be dinosaur. A she lion. A chicken does she make the noises of the chickens and the lions no, she barks? Do you have a feel like she stills the limelight from you OJ? She does definitely everybody. They want to meet her at the end comes retreats. No more flowers for me. So you recently started raising chickens, I read your Long Island foam, and you even wrote a book about it. Do you? Learn from hanging out with your chickens trying to bring back instead of industrial chicken. Heritage breeds. They are healthier animals. They are able to raise their baby naturally. I think it's important not only to conserve for nostalgia of the past. Because it's very important to keep the by diversity how people react when they hit Isabella Rossellini, you know, movie star model mused mountain school say seeing David Lynch has written a book about chicken farming and his touring around the country with a dog and a circus. I mean, it's also different Isabella. So I want to know a little more about how your latest activities are being perceived. Sometimes I see good people might have just known me as a as a model. And so they magin at you know, aware a lot of makeup, and I only talk about facial and. So when they say well farmer, I expect that, but I just do what he's interesting to me. And there are many things that are interesting to me from cosmetics to animals. That was framed contributor khloe velopment chatting with Isabella Rossellini at the California academy of sciences in San Francisco Rossellini show link link circus plays the broad stage in Santa Monica from January twenty fifth to the twenty seventh. And that is it for this week. The frame is produced by Oscar Garza, Darby Maloney, Monica bushmen, and Jonathan shift. Our engineer is Valentino Rivera. I'm John horn have a great weekend. We have a special encore addition of the frame for MLK day. Join us then.

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Breaking News 8/21/19

Bitch Sesh: A Real Housewives Breakdown

05:19 min | 2 years ago

Breaking News 8/21/19

"<music> <music> i mean i'm getting cashews like any other day here. We are where we happen to be here. Wolf in our in our recording studio danielle is getting cashews. I was just screaming from a sound booth which is hard for daniel here. Screaming danielle the l. danielle because matt makaki has sent me the news that bethany frankel is not returning to new york. I'm just i mean she's left before but you don't think someone's gonna leave again like i don't look do. I think this is a wrong decision no yeah it's like when seinfeld said you know what we're done. Because we had hit such a high point. He wanted to go out with dignity. I do give her that like she's like. I can't talk myself and i think it's very strategic now. When i look at bethany just to get an article i find two things bethany rankled to exit real housewives and bethany frankel gets rare blow out and dies gray hair so a law happening with her today varieties reporting on it she stepping away from the franchise thing. Oh wow frankel. I join the acclaimed reality series back when it premiered premiered in two thousand and eight and do i think she will be back in a year of quarters but i think she's she has a statement and oh i am not getting washed over the years. When a children's up my arm it looks like a forest of trees dinning case just like children over view. There's nothing there to run on pets right. I have decided to leave the housewives franchise to explore my next chapter. Frankel said in a statement it's time to move on and focus on my daughter. My philanthropy my production partnership with mark burnett and my she goes on to give a little plug producing and starring in joseph represent a shift in the conversation for women with the changes in modern culture. I want to highlight the strength confidence and unstoppable power that women have my experience at bravo has been an incredibly magical ride and i'm grateful to them for highlighting my entrepreneurialism and allowing me to pave the way for women to achieve their goals. I'm excited for my future. The best is yet to come now. It's interesting as someone who i don't feel gets along well with other women to highlight the word women so many times to do her for her whole business to be about grabbing things for them and i think as long as she's in charge. She likes to create things for women but i don't think she this now. I i hear you in interesting in the in the statement to not hear a word about the skinny gal that brand name to hear mark burnett or just to hear something about her new skinny girl meets or jeans or we didn't grow tables girl. I mean we talk pat her. Go down a snowboard of skinny girl to ninety seven pinch hit. I wanna take this opportunity to in y'all to think bethany for a few things namely the tw- two times she has sponsored an event for me was skinny alcoholics. I really appreciated and she gave me a skinny skinny girl like a little metal circle that you can coat your glass with salt. Oh and that was special but no genuinely really appreciate that but i want to say i really really really enjoyed bethany this last seat and i feel like she's going out on a high note but of his deanna changes texted. I'm devastated and i mean we can all just sit with this today. We just have to mourn it and move on. It's the right distribution you. Just don't tell us all to move on right away. You know we're still just hearing. You haven't even eaten one cat. I can't summer's almost over bethany. He's gone labor day's upon rights that death the debt you know if some of the debt the end of summer is a death falls upon us the leaves leaves are drying and falling to the ground as our beth knees tears. I'm glad she's got some time now to die those routes as the article mentioned. I i feel sick to my stomach. I feel like the ground is shifting under me. Like where would we be. I what the real housewives looks like without her. We've done it before. I don't know off like what's the lead going. Vicki and we'll talk about this when we come back has been seamless anyhow it's been great. I i hope everyone has new new. Look to focus on i. I hope everyone's okay sit with someone. You love tonight it. If you see tamra son coming hide unlock your yes and pour some skinny girl out firmness bethany franken here's to you bethany thing ah sometimes they sometimes zooms day.

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Emmy Was Kim Cattrall's Name in the 1987 Movie Mannequin

Keep It!

58:37 min | 3 years ago

Emmy Was Kim Cattrall's Name in the 1987 Movie Mannequin

"Uh-huh. Hello. Here we're doing, keep it post EMMY glow. I'm hung over whatever. Are you Billie? Hello. Hello? What did you drink a lot? Like I mean, like like they like glamorous limit shallow type things to Keila to. All right. It was. Emme party night the show on the other head. I'm actually surprised people thought it was a disaster because I thought they moved through it. We'll get it. Yes, we're going to into that and so much more today, we'll be talking about the Emmys whether they're actually divers are not. We'll be talking about the scuffle that two people got into before the Emmys scuffle as the media is branding it, and that New York magazine profile of SUNY, Previn, and Woody Allen. We'll be right back. Hey, keep it listeners last month. Crooked media lodged vote. Save America a step by step guide to make sure everyone votes in the twenty eighteen midterms. And this week, the website will launch for you to go and pledge your vote and get involved in campaigns going on in your community. Also, you'll get a confirmation Email where you can check to see if you're registered to vote right now. These are the main things we want you to do. Please God, please. Please guys you have to job is registered to vote. I do so many unimportant things in my life. I go, you know what I'm saying? And this is the one time I can do a thing that is important, which is so shocking coming for me. And as we get closer to the election, we'll be rolling out more tools to let you know what the big issues are in your state who's on your ballot, where to vote and how to make sure everyone else, you know votes. Also, you can also join our votes, save America, Facebook group, and follow the votes of America hashtag to see all the great work. People of already been doing actually life-affirming things. Well. Oh, people care. They care get involved with caring vote. That's how you stop. Zodiac killer. The girls are fighting. Start every episode with that somebody somewhere. Mark Burnett and Tom Arnold got into a fight before the. These are my two favorite celebrities. So please be sensitive. First of all, who fights with Mark Burnett on, do you know the bat? I didn't know the Baxter in which is that apparently, Tom Arnold is making a show for vice called like wears the Trump tapes or something like that where he's looking for the Trump tapes. Now, I would have thought it's the p. tape because do we really need a tape of Trump saying nigger to know that he's raised it like, we've we got it. We have Trump of him seen grabber by the pussy. I don't know that like hearing this is really going to like drive it home for anyone proof, right, exactly. But apparently is a whole TV show. That's just about finding the tapes vice. I remember really just spending money and curious as, but so he, I guess he said that this weekend at the Emmys he was gonna go like hunting from our Burnett because as we all know, Mark Burnett. Is the producer behind survivor, the amazing race, and also the apprentice where Donald Trump is alleged to have said nigger, a bunch of times. Throughout the seventeen hundred seasons that that show was. Any won't really. The whole thing is he won't release the tapes. People think that he's like protecting Trump. And I mean, do we is it that serious, Tom Arnold. He ganked off mar Burnell nowadays. Yeah. So that's the thing like it. It's not clear who initiated the quote, unquote scuffle. I will say, usually victims don't flee the scene, the way Mark Burnett did, but I don't know. Also, I mean, like the way the story was told Tom Arnold said he was just choked under certain services if you meet Tom Arnold. I mean, do I choke him? I, I don't know. I don't really know that much about Tom Arnold choke Tom Arnold all the time now exactly. Then this other weird thing happened where Roma Downey who was married to Mark Burnett was like injured in the posted damage. I have a Google alert for Roma. Downey may lay so that came up on my feet. Also Roma Downey is one of the fifty people that Trump follows on Twitter or something like that. So that's sort of interesting what a little wrinkle. She's behind it. All. I know Malania also say that unless. Like the Cardi Nikki fight where someone had the wherewithal to whip out their phone and get his video footage. We don't have any footage of this scuffle, let alone multiple perspective that we have different weed coverage. The Nikki Cardi fight, and we're just having to believe Tom Arnold and Mark Burnett and Pat nozzle see, this is the difference before they were talking on social media about how Cardi and Nikki should conduct themselves in front of white people. But I think that the problem with white people is they don't have their phones out out feel is important to document to celebrities fighting with each other. I prefer the black people. We'll see. I wonder like, would we get less sort of shit for it if we didn't record it because now people can say whatever they want. And if we had only heard secondhand accounts about Cardi Nikki, you might not be like it might not look as bad wrote. It would just be a rumor. It just be a rumor the way people know it's up though with that. 'cause now, no one, you don't have the footage of like Mark burnett's crucifix being being flung from his neck way. Here's my question when. In the Cardi fight who got the picture of her with the not on her head was that just like walking out. It was just a Pap. So they actually just probably did it in front of more 'paparazzi. None announced they were at someone recorded it. They were like inside the party and someone smart who knew they knew the TMZ rates and they pulled out their phone ordered it. And then she just later walked out the movie night, crawler uploaded it to the teams, the app. It's also got that direct deposit to. Ronin fails. Gossip girl to me, honest. I'm just imagining Ronin NTM's e as dueling people that people liked. I'm going to send this story to how moral am I actually help people or do I just want to like make make ten thousand dollars and now it now by the way, the story is ruining thera allegedly has tapes that Tom Arnold has turned over to him by the way Kennedy something Ronan Farrow who Iran, I have both met a number of times. There are more than one journalist out here. We not inundate this man with every damn story. It's like I'm worried for him in a way he walked into his office of this just like a sea of things that he has to take care of by like actual like Alkap owns actual bombs, just like all these things. The weirdest part about this fight was people like Pat, now's walled, even Billy Eichner taking photos, whip, Tom Arnold after Twitter and being like I'm with Tom and Pat nozzles. Like we gotta protect this brutal angel. Title like this is nonsense. Why? Why are you find this funny? Just answering if I hear Trump tape and it doesn't involve p. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care honestly, though, even if we get the tape, I'm just gonna say I maybe even before it's one of the safer kinks. I'm sorry. I mean, it's almost kind of cool that him there's a missing element there. Just why I ever. This is the hell I'm dying on peace co worth Lewis Tate. As current looks over. Wondering who should add. Louis is safe. The show we will not be editing this out. I want the world to now maybe it's because I'm suspicious so many things. But part of me also has this feeling that the fight wasn't real and that it's part of Tom show. It also doesn't sound like a fight. It sounds like to dudes pushing each other, which honestly, I seem undo that brunch, so I'm not sure. Really again at the end of one when you know that Tom Arnold was like kind of looking for a fight. I can't imagine. Mark Burnett is super reasonable. They're outside a party is seem someone was probably a little drunk. There's no footage. The tapes aren't that interesting like come on also. I mean, did he really just run up to him and choke him? Because that's like a funny thing that only happens on the children. What a weird I move. Let's take a little break. And when we're, we'll talk about the actual EMMY awards. Did you know that every single episode of keep it is now on Spotify episode, every episode, including the lost episodes, what happened in those there on Spotify. The same app has millions of songs also, now has thousands of podcasts. The lost episodes are repulsive. Lewis with Ed Graham. Spot. You can listen to all your favorite shows and discover new ones, but why would you do that? Just keep listening to keep it dealing such a good job scribe to this show search for keep it tap, follow and get every new episode delivered right to you. Puck on Spotify. They're streaming right now and now and now and now and now to free. Good evening. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the seventy th primetime EMMY awards. I'm Colin. I'm Michael shake. Yeah. You know, it is an honor to be here sharing this night with the many, many talented and creative people in Hollywood who haven't been caught yet Colin Jost. And Michael j. co head writers of Saturday Night Live hosted the seventieth annual primetime EMMY awards Lucy NFL here. They hope to reverse the falling award, show ratings cars didn't work. Nobody wants to show. Well, again, they put it on like before jeopardy. Just like in the middle of fucking Monday. Also, all of the television industry is in Los Angeles, so you know what people were doing at five o'clock making television. That's what I was doing. I was writing television at five o'clock, and I did not have time to in front of a television. It was crazy decision to put it on a fucking Monday because of what football is. If those two audiences really overlap, I was going to hear cut. I was driving home. I had a steel alive stream. You know that I need a word shows in order to live streams in. I'm gonna head my methods anyway. The show kicked off not even with. It was like the show said, we know y'all fuck about that. So this show kicked off with like Kate McKinnon coming out. Diversity is not a problem in Hollywood anymore. Nope. We saw. Is what. Outsource to SNL pass to angel. Kristen bell, are she loved. Unbelievable. Right now best-dressed. Yes. I say Joan London for claratin a lot on the show, but she really looked like Joan London for Claritin. Also, Titus Burgess was in that, and I sometimes forget he's a seriously amazing singer always making these references that I have no idea. Oh my God, this Claritin. Television commercials from nineteen Eighty-eight talking about the allergy medication. That's right. What's an allergy idea? Anyway, I will say this opening number gave these people room to shine, but it also seemed aimless and everybody I know seem to not like it, which was unfortunate because I loved everybody in it. Oh, here, the diverse dancers and they came out and then they vanished for a bunch of white people to do things and felt like I was watching LaLa land all over again. I kind of like what was it called? The one of every dancers like they were sort of a plan diversity that I thought was cute before the again issues that like then you had to. It was like they put it off as long as they could. And then we had to listen to Colin joss and Michael j. and they just could not have looked like they gave less of a shit. They looked so uninterested not excited to be there just like comfortable. They just looked like they were like Lauren made us do it. Sitting behind the weekend update desk throwing out some banter for, you know, five minutes, not really doing a whole show. It was like, why are we here? That's neither of them. I wouldn't think of either of them released like strong performers, like I think they're, I mean, look, I don't watch us an, but there had writers on SNL assume they're good at writing comedy, but I've never been like, wow, what a magnetic screen presence that Michael j. what Sharm Alan just has emitting from the screen. So they were just like a super bazaar choice also by the way. So they've been doing this for like four, five years, could it? Could they make it look like they've met before they truly like barely face each, their chemistry is sort of like barely acknowledging the other. It was like they were doing. They're boring weekend update. It was just like they were reading from the prompter and it was like, just got to get this joke out and move on, and the jokes were so strangely. Paste, it felt really well. It was a little slow. I didn't think the jokes were terrible, but I also didn't think the jokes were specific to them in any way almost made you feel like anybody could host the Emmys because there was a certain, you know, like liberal enough vibe to all of the jokes. They said, that's what I mean about the weekend update, like miss of it, all it didn't feel like even when like James, Franco and Anne Hathaway disaster hosting the Oscars, it felt like James an an were hosting, right? Yeah, yeah. Also, I was going to say it when I watched them I, it made me think of the subtle, but very important difference between them and someone like Jimmy Kimmel who it's like. They're both like kind of deadpan kind of droll, but Jimmy Kimmel really does not make you feel bad that you're watching it or like that he's above it or whatever. And that he's into the entertainment, which is crucial. People want to like this stuff. The other thing is you can't make a bunch of citrical diversity jokes, and. Then proceed to give only white people awards for the next hour. And it's like, you know, the thing is this Emmys I think they had the most diverse group of nominees in the history of the Emmys. And I mean, it's hard obviously like you don't know the outcome of award show. You're not certain that Tracy Ellis Ross is gonna win an award because had more people of color. You know, you hope, Sandra gonna win, but had more people of color actually want awards. Those sort of jokes might have been a little more well received, but when it's just like, oh, white people again, but those diversity jokes, so they know there's a problem. Okay. Like it's there's nothing satisfying particularly interesting because at least when there's a diverse Oscars, you know that potentially that means that a bunch of people of color are going to win awards because the Oscars. Also the Oscars by their nature because new movies come out every year. You get a new crop of nominees every year for the most part and it's for, you know, like the people who are standards like Emeril or something, but the Emmys are this beast where the same people will get nominated for a bunch of years in a row at lea- voters are lazy. I mean, why pay to get in the war? Genesis barely endgame thrones sees that the series win for that was I thought the most surprising that stuff like when modern family used to win on the time or when big bang theory used to win things. It's just like the EMMY voters, have their traditions and it's like, this is what they watch, and this is who they tend to reward every year. So it's not like, oh, here's a bunch of new things. We have to go and watch all these things. Some people, I'm sure probably barely even want see shows they like I watched this show. I know this person's good. There's also not like unlike the Oscars, you have all those award shows in the lead-up see, like you go into the Oscars kind of having a solid, like a solid enough of an idea that like this person is probably going to win. It's. Is it like a total shock? Because like you look at the awards, they've been winning all words season. So I think like I could go into a year when you know, moonlight is nominated and make diversity jokes because we're like, they're probably gonna win something because they've been winning all season. But with the Emmys it's like, you have no idea what's about to happen guys months before the Golden Globes to get. There's really no Emmys only he's them. No. No, I would tell you never get through EMI's without being surprised a couple of times. I mean, I mean, what were like your surprises? Because I thought that listen, I am sure the marvelous misses me. A new this lovely show. I will say, I think my biggest bone to pick with all of the outcomes of the words is. I think this shit of one hour comedies. I do not like that. This half hour drama should. I think it's unfair to make shows compete against other shows when they're not all trying to do the same thing. I think there's a very big difference between having to make a twenty two of television for network and getting forty five minutes to do comedy. It's, you know, if you told a network television writer, you're going to get a full thirty minutes, no commercials, like that's a different. That's a different situation. That's a different skill. And I think it it probably is more beneficial to them. So when I found out that the show is an hour, it's like, I mean, I'm sure it's great. I've by all accounts of all of the people. But it's just like, that's not really fair. It's also like a big change from, say the Emmys twenty five years ago. If you look at like the major comedy categories, you'd have shows like cheers and Seinfeld and like home improvement, competing, which like those are all shows. They're not just multi Cam. They kind of have similar characters. They're going for the same types of laughs. The payoff of the humor is the same. Whereas now comparing just comedy categories alone, it's like insecure is nothing like marvelous Mrs Maes nothing like mom and it's, here's the thing show at the Grammys. I feel like everybody has too many Grammy's. I don't. That's what I'm saying. I don't want to expand that much in case everyone didn't know by the way. Marvelous MRs Mazel basically swept the comedy categories with the exception of Henry Winkler and Bill Hader winning best actor and best supporting actor in a comedy series awards, but marvelous Mrs Maes I believe one every other comedy, a word actress, supporting actress. Yeah, but there should be a drama category and I think you have a show like master of none. I would even honestly like it Lanta which I love is not really going for jokes in the same way that like an insecure is in the way that a Silicon Valley is. I think, marvelous MRs Mazel I think transparent. I think orange is the new black. You have a bunch of shows that are not par drama's not hard comedies. And I think when you have people, you know it should be Silicon Valley veep and blackish against each other. That's a competition. You wanna see of like who just wrote the best jokes, who was funniest, and that's not what the other shows are going for them. Here's more thing. I really actually. Loved Marvel's missiles as well. Her. She's dressed listening, Rachel Brosnahan shopping with her as bass. It was like, what is this name? Who by the way, Gloria. Oh, my jolly a lightning bolts and her and heard her and Kristen bow because twice my age and dear Lord, she looks incredible. You saw that viral video of Ezra Bassett talking about her out. She's almonds and lean Samson's like Monday, Tuesday, fruits, invest balls mean lean protein Chia seeds, maybe a little almond milk almond butter. No, dare like no bread, no Zeki, Brad from the sprouse sprouted. Grain Brad are have the protein later the week. So I could do a high intensity workout do weightlifting, you hire a trainer because I know if I pay for him. I'm gonna make sure that I show up and if I don't pay them, I'm not go to the gym. So then I know I'm going to the gym everyday are meditate, don't do yoga. She makes she might be the greatest junket interviewee of all time. Maybe he'll give you nothing or ever even though I really like marvelous was I love Alex bore state. So goodness show. I definitely agree that this is part of the problem. Why networks also. Want the enemies really on their network anymore. That Emmys, you know, this long contract and it's like if the ratings drop, you know they wanna be able to negotiate differently for having it on air NBC like to do that. It's also impart just because networks aren't winning EMMY awards anymore. It's cable and streaming that are winning. And it's in large part because Amazon gets to do this. Amazon gets to like make these long, pass dramas and make some light jokes in them and then be like, this is comedy. Yes. I was gonna say, watching the acting categories sort of goes back to what I was saying before. It is just so weird to compare these performances now, like in a way it is. It's fair to me. It would have been fair to me if anybody had one in most of these shows because the shows are not comparable in in these categories like Bill Hader. Well, who are your favorite winners though? I would say my favorite winner. Well, Henry Winkler. Because it was happy. Yes, really good in berry all he's very, he's he's the funniest person and berry also definitely. And also like his humor is the most shocking on that show too. He's obviously a legend and also he was a literate until the age of thirty one. Did you know that any went to Yale drama about that? He talks about it a lot. He had like severe dyslexia growing up. Okay. Well, and then he took a picture with Ron Howard and that one that was very, very happy to see all of the non white people who won. So sandy Newton, king and rupaul, I think was very anyone else looked Hella shock that she Chuck. She looked unbelievable and vary surprise the first time that anyone's ever disteclared themselves eighth east as they were winning. Yeah. Hear about God. I don't believe in God, but I'm gonna talking about her tonight or so. By the way. Regina. King was very shocked. Shocked that was her third win though. So let's. Oh, yeah, because you've been twice for American crime. I think that Regina king was shocked that she just one for. Because networks canceled it. You know, Venus was on this show talking about it and it just hasn't been getting, you know, really any buzz after it dropped. But then again, that goes to what haras said. There's not really an EMMY awards, the said, for the Oscars. They drop most of those movies in November in December, and it's like this is time to go see it for the Emmy's. It could be like this show aired a year ago. I was obviously reading for Sandra who deserves. I mean, truly truly deserves multiple Emmys for Grey's anatomy. I love Clervoy tail and Clervoy is the only person who I was. I would have been able to live with winning that award other than Sandra. Oh, but she is so unbelievable. She was the. I mean, Sandra was the first. I think Asian person to ever be nominated in the acting category at the Oscars lead acting in the year. Two thousand eighteen which is ridiculous and embarrassing for everyone involved the two years. She was nominated a bunch of other times for her supported work on Grey's anatomy, and she should have won for those scenes because here's the thing. Killing is not good. I. It's not good. It's a silly show that she had strongest, Jody Homer. She and Jodi calmer. Hold up, but I, if they completely falls apart me. On show, but you're, it didn't like people were upset at didn't get a series nomination. I'm like, I'm actually fine with that. I mean, they are fabulous movie. Yeah. Wow. I, I just finished watching the funny thing about the Emmys to is like it does. I feel like I saw an article about this where there's now so much television, and so it's so much about like kind of who you are and who you interact with the television that you perceive to be like the best in very popular because there's just so much happening. And so for me, like I'm watching it and like, I think American vandal was the best thing made on television in the air. Two thousand seventeen. I think it was so fucking funny. Nothing was funnier than that show. It was nominated in the limited series writing category and it lost two black mirror. I think that Bo Jack horsemen is honestly the best show on television right now. It's new season just came out. It was like nothing as good as its, but that's also like very much my sense of humor. It's very much just like the world that I live in and what I'm interested in and like, I don't think it any other time you've been able to. So clearly Mark, the type of television that you wanna watch and that there's so much for you to choose from. So it makes the Emmys for meal little like it's exciting and I'm happy for the people that one and all of that, but it sort of it doesn't. It doesn't say as much to me about like the important television moving the culture right now in the way that like the Oscars might if anything, the way the Oscars wanted to add the popular film category, which I thought was the m his probably needs one because the people who they want to watch the Emmys and give it ratings in middle America are watching shows on CBS and Mike, you know, NBC sitcoms. It's like they wanna see people from moms days. They wanna see people from the big bang theory. They're like, I'll have Amazon. These people. Five. Oh, best show. What you just said about viewership s- being so splintered. Now that's why I'm always so surprised. And I guess thrilled when rupaul and repulsed drag race and winning big awards and they finally, just this year, won the best reality show. I mean, it's really it's sort of that feeling like what if Carly Rae jepsen emotion took over the Grammys one year and instead it got nothing. You know what I mean? It really. I mean rupaul to me feels like a show that is important for me to watch bonds me with my friends if feels like, are things still. And yet the Emmys have like realized how great it is, how important it is very shock. I think this was you being insular. The largest audience that watches repositories is straight women are and also like Tian girls. With the Carly Rae jepsen. But I'm just saying. It's a show that's good enough. That feels like it belongs to us while other people can still latch onto it. And so it's just so RAD that people, you know and also recalls the best. So that works out. What do you think really needs to happen to make the Emmys sort of a cultural moment again, or are we just going to have the ratings keep dropping? And it's going to be streamed on crackle? Well, I mean they need the hosts were not. It was not at this. I don't know. I mean, I think that that's the thing like I, I enjoy watching the Emmys like there are a lot of winners that like I think are so deserving of so happy to see when and shows that I really enjoy. But like again, there's just so much television that there's no way that everything that I love. I'm going to see even nominated or acknowledged at the Emmys because there's just there's so much. That's just the reality of of the television industry right now. So I think for me, it's just like from the kind of quote, unquote procedure shows that you know we're gonna get nominated. It's like, what. Amongst those my excited to see not what what should my favorite shows right now on television is going to get nominated for an EMMY, which of my favorite actors right now we're gonna get nominated because that's probably not going to happen. But out of this kind of group that you know is going to get selected that you know is going to get honored who do I like most amongst them. And so for me, it's like, that's that's how I have to look at. It is just me being angry for three hours because the good fight didn't get a single that is your brand is days. It's the best. So fucking good, less Boone vest, hit it on CBS all access because he wanted the women and Christine Baranowski. Delroy Lindo to be away from him. You basically just alluded to this cab and the Oscars people have said the same thing about the Oscars, but truly a lot of these telecasts do live and die based on who the hosts are. Again, it's like there are people. You can book that everyone is everyone in middle America. Say is obsessed with when Ellen host the Oscars. The Oscars have huge ratings. You know, I think people tune in to see like an actual comedy show more than they go to see an awards turnout. Honestly, pay the rock a bunch of money to. A word shell. What is wrong with every producer of an award show on television. That man is so goddamn charismatic. He is great to look at no matter who you are. He looks excellent in a tux. He has a. He's so nice. I mean, it just I don't understand what's happening here. I don't understand the room of people deciding this where you have the option of the rock and you go with Michael j. and Scarlett. Johansson boyfriend. It's more and more so next year, Vanessa, Bayer, I'm kidding. She's a woman wrong about. I love to just a joke Lewis. Tearing up. When we're back, we're gonna die into this New York magazine profile of student president. You're, nobody's grow a meditating. I heard the sounds of meditation, but it made me mad. 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SUNY alleges, numerous incidents of verbal and physical abuse by fair out and details of her teenage relationship with Woody Allen. The profile seemed like it was supposed to dismiss dealing Farrow's decades, long, sexual abuse allegations against Woody Allen, but it pretty much fell flat. Also, it was written by a friend of SUNY president, Woody Allen, Daphne, merkin. And here's the thing when I first heard this article was dropping because it was like hyped a little bit. The headline to meet suggested, oh, SUNY is writing at herself. Then it became this other thing where it's just they may as well have paid for this to be read the craziest thing and like New York magazine in vaulter. They are like. Legitimate media organizations and to have a friend of the subject Radi profile them is ridiculous. It's so it's so unethical. It doesn't make any sense for any standard practices of journalism. I cannot believe that they allow that to move forward under the guise of it being an actual piece of journalism like she like the author admitted in the story that she was friends with them. But like that's crazy. When I, when I get pitches, for example, to writes articles like it's one of the first things they've been asked is, if you have any relation to this person, and if you if you even like been friendly with them, if I've been casually, you know if I've had like a casual social interaction with someone for for certain period of time, it kind of disqualifies you from being able to profile them and write about them. What is this Adam's rib? You know. Going up against your spouse. Whoa, I, you me that's Katharine Hepburn, Spencer Tracy movie for everybody at home. I can't believe I got to say that. I'm keep it. It's almost like the author of the piece was hoping to make everything okay by acknowledging her friendship. But it was just that made it even more. Jumped out. She's like, I myself have been friends with Allen for over four decades and always been somewhat mystified by him in part because of the almost Asper g and aloneness of the man in part and in part because of the genuine diffidence the lack of discernible ego, bitch, you lost your mind. He doesn't have an ego while the wild, this man who puts himself into his movies so he can MAC on fifteen year old girl. Also, excuse me. If you watch the movie stars us memories, he is with Charlotte Rampling in that movie who is like, you know, another Lauren, Bacall, looking person when you see that man kissed Charlotte rambling. You just want to hide under a table and there's a table right here that I might just get under out. Great. Hell movie sitter. The everything that was became very obvious was like, okay, so you're reading this. It SUNY, didn't write it. Like, I think we all maybe thought she'd had. So you have this person writing it. So it's like, what's the angle here? Because obviously, this is going to be a complimentary picture of the two of them if they're fucking friend is writing it. And so as Reno's, what's the Englewood single and you realize that they're like, oh, we're going to say that Mia Farrow was a bad mom because that somehow has anything at all to do with Woody Allen. Allegedly. MS molesting his daughter like that. They thought that that was something that legitimately was like, a legitimate argument could come back with because that's what they thought they spent so much time would soon Ye talking about her difficult relationship with me a pharaoh. And even if every word of what she said is correct. That doesn't have shit to do with what Woody Allen totally. There were so many people who were actually annoying me with tax sagged at, don't you think that sued you deserve to tell her story. I'm like, of course to talk, oh story, but to position it in a way as to be like, this is part of Dylan's story is ludicrous, and also the profile did not get any sort of, you know, quotes or background for the piece that could allegedly refute things that are playing fabrications as Ronin and Dylan claimed in their responses, Ryan the story, so busy. Just bad journalism all around and it's the photos of her and Woody is just like, is this puff piece? Yeah. Yeah. It felt like those weird white nationalist pieces where it's like, oh, here are the, you know, the dapper people of all right. It was just like, who is this four? And also a part of me wonders like is this coming out now because now Woody Allen's movies are getting shelved. You know what I mean? Now, you know. So it's all of these men are deciding that they've had enough of this to business and they're like, I need something to put me back on the national stage. So of course, here's a profile that can be sympathetic to me. Diane Keaton probably printed out twenty copies. That's the thing. I don't know what we're supposed to take from this because I think at this point, like this soon Ye of it remains gross and predatory and and bad. But I think. We're all kind of like, I guess she was a consenting adult as she says. It's sort of like we all feel icky about it, but like it's not really any of our business at this point. Like I think the thing that people really pointing to what he Allen is that he possibly molested his child and so for it to be Salt Lake, the sui if it doesn't really have anything to do with. I think the the issues that we're talking about now when we're talking about these men being sexual predators. So that was the other thing I was like. I mean, she does deserve to tell her story, but I'm not sure what this story has to do with what we're talking about when we talk about Woody Allen. Now, also this story, I can't think of anything else like this. It comes from that era of like early nineties tabloid journalism where you like two sides are fighting and like, you see, you know, there's like candid pictures of me and candid pictures of Woody. And it's this unresolved story that I guess is just going to keep carrying over and might take away from the new piece that was just published is that we're never going to actually know what happened. There's no, like it's. Not like clue. They don't reveal the solution at the end and you find that what happened. So it just like a part of me needs to get away from the story, but there was a weird tap, dancing, singing telegram in the middle of the profile of what is happening by Jean. We Linda cogos. Can I talk about the weirdest part of this profile for me? Another attack on me affairs character that came out of left field. Daphne merkin says, I took this opportunity to ask about the rumor, not that Ronin Frank, Sinatra's, son and Woody Allen's like I think he is, but I wouldn't bet my life on it. You know, she represented herself as a faithful person, but if she became pregnant in an affair dot dot dot, like what is this that has nothing to do with what we're talking about? Right? Is this youth, ROY, salacious rumors. So you can be like, here's scandalous stuff about that side of the family. It's like, that's not what we hear false really telling that the approach that they took with this was to attack me Phero was. You know to focus on the fact that Woody Allen and SUNY have been married for twenty something years, and they love each other and they have a family. Like if that's where you're going with this, you clearly don't have shit to say about the things that everyone is actually talking about. Press that they haven't been getting those Ronin scoops. I just wanna throw in my personal sides when I do journalistic stories like this too. I took this opportunity to ask Judy Davis a total bitch on the set of husbands and wives. She and her Brown lipstick up too. So I think the story is I'm still not gonna watch this man's movies. I'm sorry, it's totally tarnished from the done. I did one point be like, you know, he is somebody who introduced a lot of film audiences to great actresses. Obviously, I'm an actress based human being, but still now it's a no one me not watching his movies. Yeah, it's it's one of those things where it's like you stop watching or listening to certain things because of the things that these people have done. Some people, it doesn't work. You know, like when Nick of homophobic on her album, I get annoyed and then I'm sort of like, all right, I'll still with whatever you know. But for people like this or like a tiny west, you know, it's like just this sort of whole allure this whole vibe that I get from them. It's just like aggressives me out. I can't even watch match point, you know, or blue jasmine, you know the the films of his, I actually lights. I didn't love. Woody Allen movies that much because I'm not a straight male at NYU, but you would have done just fine. I mean, there's nothing the thing I know there's nothing to like come out of this like I don't think that people are going to be like, oh, will now let's be in his movies again. Like I think you've had a lot of people that are like Yikes, and they've. And they're like, I wish I hadn't done that. Here's the money back. Whatever that man is old hell he needs to stay home. It's over. It's over for you. And I don't think that this like dumb magazine profile, I don't know what you think this is going to achieve for either of you John. We're still to run for president now. That's what they do. I know we're not going to watch wonder wheel. Sorry, go away. Kate Winslet. When we're back, keep it. I don't know if you listen to podcasts called pod, save the world, but they last week brought up something I had said about somebody named John love it, and I may have said he dresses like a basketball player district club while backup back to him. And he said that Lewis can quote, I'm sorry, I'm tearing up right now. Shove his Cape Blanchet tank tops up his ass. I just wanna say to this man who dresses like someone who teaches hip hop to preschoolers. Just stop it. I am a human being and also when I need healthy fuel fast, I know exactly what attorney daily harvest are like Barney and baby bop. Honestly. We all need fuel to get through what feels like a back and forth that will never end luckily daily daily harvest livers, perfectly portion cups of Fresno, organic fruits and vegetables directly to your door. All you have to do is add water or your favorite note to your Cup. Then just blend or heat daily harvest, new savory harvest bowls are an amazing healthy dinner. 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And he was asked about me too. And he said, quote, this is a movement Masino largely. Shouldered by kind of receptacle of the salacious. Okay. When he was asked to swing with the fuck that means he said, we don't know what's fact in many of the cases salacious is as soon as you, you call something of movement that is really a series of many individual accusers victims. Accusations meant some of which are unfounded in the spirit of much of what has been. The metoo movement is to divide men and women that is now what the fact that word means first of all Sean Penn, and he's out here. He looks like a boot that was walking through a storm stepped on his space, and then his face became the boot. That's what he looked, which happens all the time. Just like a man who we know has more likely than not abused women because whatever it's, we have to say, he's he's relatively allegedly, but like is also a noted violent person. So when I see a violent man, it's I'm going to assume that at some point they were violent towards he attacks. Exactly, exactly. But he's just out here talking. We don't eat him talking what I really wanted to keep it to as I got an Email in my inbox, and it said from Sean Penn as he is, and I was like, the hell is it. You found us, and then it was. He's hosting a fundraiser with Randy brace, who is who I really support, which is why I got the Email who is running to replace Paul Ryan's house seat, and I'm just really, I don't love that. He's hosting a fundraiser with Chelsea handler and Bradley Whitford and whatever. But I just I thought Sean Penn, I assumed I didn't think we were done with him, but you sort of thought with like the me too of it. All the smart thing to do would be to. Just shut the hell up and. Crawling through the jungle interview Mahara something. Great. He's wasn't. He still in Haiti, not being helpful. Like I don't know what I don't know what he what he's been doing. I don't know why he came back and also the thing that was most irritating like even asking, I think he was on the today show and and I think Natalie Morales was interviewing him like, why are you asking them? Why are you even asking him about me to, you know what his answer is going to be? You know, he's, he's defended Charlie rose. He's defended Louis c. k. you know, he's not going to say something interesting or helpful or inciteful you. He said exactly what you knew he would say, and it doesn't fuck and help anything, and it's not interesting and it doesn't help the actual women who continue to suffer from men like him. Also. I mean, he's a potential scarecrow and also when you're abuse, remember that man. That's what I'm saying. When you're talking about abuse, you can ask anybody but Sean Penn. I mean, just, yeah, you're asking Sean Penn, what he thinks about a movement that is targeting. Users that does that seem? Does that seem like the way to go broody about driving also precisely? No. And also by the way recently he released a book that was the worst written thing. Yes, I can't even quoted it so crazy. The amount of adjectives per line in this book. It is some straight up Susan shit. He also said that he talks with women from all walks of life and they're not down with me too, and I would like literally one of them one raise your hand, come up to the stage girl and let us know because I don't believe that ship for a second. Right Lewis laid on me with your, keep it. Also mystic river sucks. So take that Sean Penn. Like Mr. I gotta say it was weird. I also went. I, I went to cops and literally my first week of college. I remember this guy was like, oh, I just went on a jog near Mr.. Griffin. I remember thinking, have you seen the movie? You can't go jogging. We were really close to it, and I was like, no one had seen the movie and I was like, everyone was talking about makes Mr. grid is like a place to go running your whole gonna die and Sean Penn is going to have thirty cops. He's fighting to to find your body, but no shining, hey them to Marcia gay harden, of course Rawson. Oh yeah, right. Yeah, right. Mike, keep it is to apple events. Apple ovens are the world's largest meetings that could have been an Email. I have to sit there and watch them. And weirdly they are presented as like some sort of sweepstakes where we are founding out, the wonderful prizes that will be lavished upon us. It is the opposite of that. It is this. You get this feeling of dread like, oh my God, this is what I'm going to be paying for. You're sitting there watching a spindly man telling you, you're going to go broke. Doc, and because the screen is a little bit bigger tomb, cook is gonna take keep it off of apple bar. When you said you have to sit there and watch because you don't know. Computer off. He he walks up like p.t Barnum with his arms outstretched. He's like, welcome to the wonderful world of your broke, and you sit there and find out why you're broke. Fuck an order that phone like two days later. Holding using my preorder. I got the x. I got the most expensive. Max. I got like five hundred gigabytes. I gotta go, I I didn't get called, but I, that's the worst part of it though, because you are watching it and you're like, what? What are they? What could they possibly be another phone? And then by the end of it, I'm like, oh, I guess I have to pay twelve hundred dollars now for cell phone and I and I knew I was going to do it through the money to the ground. There's a stack of money in front of you and it's your own. No. Again, this is not like a slam on the product obviously own all this shit, but it's just the funniest kind of trick like this man's doing a PowerPoint presentation about how he owns you. I think also probably more exciting when it was like Steve Jobs and they were literally like, here's an iphone. We've never heard of iphones before. Here's a crazy thing. There's a computer in your hand knew really knew. Now it's just like, is the camera better because you buy it anyway. I don't need the like song and dance of this, like unless leave invented a whole new type. Of thing, like not just not a watch? Not phone, not a laptop. I need a whole new type of thing. It's also a helmet. Then I sure our thing I'm gonna cough that Armas watched to DO your eye. I. Because I'm gonna money pit. Funny, we want bodies. Mike, keep it is for an unless you have more to say about apple. No, I just they own me good work by keep it is in two part two Bryan singer and also to the Hollywood reporter. Brian singer is in talks to direct red Sonja for Molyneaux, whatever. I don't know what any of that is. Red. Sonja is a comic book series on. It's very sort of like Conan, the bar Burian and. I mean, if you've seen the original red Sonja with Brigitte Nielsen that is fun. Yeah, that movie is not sense, but so millennium is looking to cash in, you know, on the sort of wonder, woman -ness of it all because they think that hiring this alleged person who molest or rapes young men allegedly magnanimous partly to do this is what's going to lure people in like one woman had a female director woman in red red, Red Sox. Yes. Yeah. So at least he wanted to salt her. Also, the story that came out in the Hollywood reporter is basically PR for Bryan singer. It talks about how none of the allegations were proved and it talks about how millennium has a lot of buzz going around the office and out of the office about this movie and about how can be. Bryan singer's big comeback, and I'm like, getting away from the allegations, the sexual ones. He was fired off of that Queen bio-pic because he wasn't coming to work and it was chaos onset. So what makes you think that he's not gonna do it on this movie? It's just nonsense. He was fired by FOX, and here we are not even a year later and his like he's in talks for this big combat. You know what movie also sex, the usual suspects. I hate that fucking movie. It's just here's a home movie and then it didn't matter. Listen up Mr.. Wow, that movie. It's like, it's like a twist that you right when you're a in fourth grade and it was all her man. Kevin Spacey burn that fucking taxing spacing in it. Man? Yeah, fuck it. Burn the usual suspects. We don't need why it's, I guess from what I can gather from having learned about the entire concept of this two minutes ago, it's about like a lady like a powerful lady. We don't want men ever telling those like you don't need in particular right now. If we got to a place in the world where like our all of our stories were being told evenly and fairly by whoever you know was most qualified to tell them. Then like shore have a straight person direct movie about gay people have a man directed movie about a powerful woman. We ain't there yet guys let the people who it's about, tell those stories. So for Paul fig. Last movie, though you can read my review a simple favor in time only he can direct any shirk, correct. Anything since ability. You give love back high of Yelm angle, you can. You can do whatever you want. The only have to prove yourself. I, I'm seeing a simple favor this week. It's kid. I love like lively. She. He's fine and and Anna Kendrick spare. And also she she's good, but she's played this thirty times. You really come at, you're saying, Blake, lively has more charm than Anna Kendrick. She gets the shock, no. But in like as an actor, shoot, she gets funny lines in this one. I mean, like I, I didn't watch gossip girl. Was she hilarious? Hilarious. Note. She was always Serena. Vanda would set was she? Was she like pop it off the screen and DASA was she? Was she. She thought she killed a man who really just overdosed in bed with her. She was in a car crash with a potential Senator and he left her there. Mccarter make it seem like. That happens all the time. Thing. Don't listen to them just cups. Also by the way and that movie, she liked drinks a lot of gin and all the gin is the Ryan Reynolds Jin ibis. Is that like he's? Yeah, isn't that what he sells? You mix? Not George. Clooney and Brad. Pitt look, I don't want it. What about you don't you don't like Nikki's. I'm sitting in the club. Paying fifteen dollars for juice. Mix, Scott takes a Capri sun. Donahue. Right? Reynolds cynicism, free, Jen. I love your wife's uncanny ability to look at the camera. I feel like gin is something you got obsessed with when you're like thirty seven. Is that gonna happen gen when I juts I turned twenty one. Oh, really drink it a lot in it. Now the smell of it makes me nauseous. That's how I feel about rum. Gin and tonic. You know, when I pop over to London town, that is really the. You've ever done. That's really someone disguising voice on the phone because they were trying to scare. We're done. Done. British, I told me my act was lovely last night may or not have been met Smith from the crowd. Probably not though actors are famous liars. That's our show for the week. We'll see you. That's wait where we won't see you, but you listen to keep it.

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Mayor Man

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Mayor Man

"Yeah. This is due by Friday. The weekly challenge podcast with Merlin, man. Alex, Cox, MAC stem Ken this week's challenge. Watch episode one of survivor season thirty eight. Hello. Hello. Hi merlin. I'm. Max isn't here yet. But we've got a official do by Friday artists. Kevin budnick. Yeah. He's just in the studio. There's people just do my studio. Run a pretty tight operation there. I know. I know I had is on max. And then he just he just went away mix. Where are you? You that channels not recording. But we have something for me. Sure. Yes. My family loves the savvy print Marlins family loves the savvy print my wife has put it up on her desk at work. Oh, you gotta turn the amplifier. What is everybody? Taking photographs of me. What is happening Alex redoing show? What's happening? I don't know. I wish I knew I wish I knew this is the way you guys live. This is not the way I live. What is happening is this the show? I here's what happens I pick up the microphone. I listened very quietly twenty minutes early. Here's what I hear. Here max screaming about coffee in the background or something or fans wherever the fuck. You people are. What is happening? Kevin do you wanna get on Mike three? That's where that's where max usually sits. Then you can have an I'm so sorry been drawn into this. That I met Mike for I'm God. Oh god. Oh, max is going to be so mad. I know really max mad. Boy, I don't speak truth the power burbot. Boom scared him, a landlord e but but blue I am not afraid of my landlord. He's just stupid. He's just stupid. Exactly, that's kind of busy this effect. Like a stupid guy way of talking dirtier. I. Those kind of blinds allowed on there because they have to use nails nails. The only way for wall to give people a baseline. This man tells stories and has affect -tations way, more annoying and way, less hair than desert landlord. Give you worse stories about bad tenants. No because we're his first. Oh, wow. You popped his landlord cherry. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. How ever he says that we are his best tenants because we always pay rent on time. That's not how that I feel like your your first and your his best. You're the. You're my favorite daughter. Kevin's not loud enough in the talking. I'm not loud enough. Turn me up. Yeah. I don't know podcast. You're kevin. I don't know how you got into this. I'm so sorry, not talking into the microphone. That's yeah. No. That's my. How do you ever heard of punching up, Alex? I heard that I have to eat the, Mike. Is that true? Yes, I wouldn't call it. It's called self care. Hi, kevin. How are you? It's nice to chat with you. Hi merlin. It's nice to finally chat with you. I love your. I enjoy your work so much. It's so neat and my family is so enjoying your work. Anyway, I I don't know. I've never really had the exact upper trinity. I don't think we talked before. I feel like we haven't. No, I don't think we ever have good. Okay. Good in the sense Glen, my memory still has. I like to think of myself as sort of the silent fourth beetle of Dubai. Sort of the ring. Billy preston. Get on the keys. I don't know you feel free. Absolutely. Absolutely. So do you work? Do you? Do you do do toil in that office? Kevin. I do I I've been subject to many a magic trick. When I'm just trying to, you know, do my job or whatever. Kevin. Why does he hurt you? What that does? He does. He let you know. Do you feel like a memo, you know, these companies just shows up and your cards? You do it's he gets that looking as I. Yeah. Purchase your. You can totally see it coming. It's it's it's sort of like looking around to see if anybody's paying attention and feeling his pockets. And then all of a sudden the outcomes of decker guards. And it's like, hey draw. One. Desk consent. I does he does. Yeah. Can can I show? You always see for me would be like first of all I would never do a magic trick. Yeah. It's for children. Well, we're sugar and pick up artists. You should you should at least say, hey, hey, Kevin. Is this a good time for me to show? You a magic trick. Welcome to your podcast, max max. Hey, max max, can you bring me my coffee. My coffee. The worm has turned. Hey, I'm the dad now you are you're the jazz, dad. You're the daddy. You're the data you're making the sauce. Kevin daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Daddy. Right off my daddy me. I have more sauce. I put in my sauce this morning. I made the Sossio fresh way, I'm a good boy. I'm going to clean my plate. Does. Daddy, loved the artist. No. I just loves the daddy. Sound of squeaking chops working? Oh, no. Oh, you've got going on here. Do you work? What are you working on right now? What are you excited about right now? God. Do your comic see your comic in the in the patriots showing up. What what what are you excited about? What am I excited about? I don't know. I'm just doing at patriot really. A lot lately actually painting. Wow. Really? Did you like do you draw one thing? I love your stuff that you can kind of see the pencil lines before you're like ink over it. I love that. Do you do when you paint you like draw something sketch something on a canvas or you just get compa bras from day one? I've been trying to get way more Bob Ross with it. Seriously. It's like, it's a different thing. It's such a different thing. It's totally different thing. Yeah. It's a new way to play with it. It's like spotting the paint on the palate is very therapeutic to me actually upsetting hand motion. Think about this hand motion. I don't know a lot. About this. Max is doing something is the Mike. I sorta cooked max. Kevin you're the daddy bird. You're just spitting spitting that suet right in the baby's mouth. Your cabin. Kevin's a good daddy now. Good boy, good. Daddy takes care of his little birds. The one boy has become the daddy. The student has become the master. Oh, Merlin out something I found out about a new feeling I had because yesterday I was driving up to the office and with matchy, and I was like his back. And but next was not back. There's just a car in his spot. And I I was apparently really to be back. Wasn't that? Sweet. Thank you. He's just returning from his so Joran to California. Where were you max don't journal cards retreat in California, one time, we had an intern here, and everyone was like going out to lunch or something and the interns yelled out looking like Astra, Jan or something. There were like is dad coming meaning me. I know. Does that worse than daddy? And yet is. Coming. I'll the ordering for the table. That's my favorites on intern Corey. The lady will have the diet plate dinner. You ask the server their name. I don't wanna know. You know? I'm no we've talked about this a little bit on the show. But you know, I think that's kind of I think it's a little bit of boomer thing. It's a dad move. It's a big dad move. My in fact, my dad sorry data he listened. But it's my dad does this and his thing. I'm I'm professor Timken, and I'll be your customer, dirt bitter booze. He really likes to hit he'll like make jokes. And his thing is his fault process because I've been like, why do you do this and his thought processes like well the server they have this like monotonous job, and they all they're doing is dealing with people, and they probably just your freesheet being recognized as a person and like some thanks jokes. But I've had those monotonous jobs before. And like really what you want is to kind of get into a flow and just assembly line it and like get through your fucking day. So you can go home and watch survivor, right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel it's a similar thing. Where like, you know, the phrase that I like read the room just that sense of like when you walk into a. A situation. Like try to be sensitive to what happened before you arrive there. What's normal? They're and I think like a good way Tron will be able to read the room and good way. Tron will. No don't interrupt us while we're talking don't ask. If I want more water, of course, I won't more water. But by the transitive property, I think customers should do the same. And they you know, what they don't need to be entertained. Yeah. Body posture super have to read body posture. That's true. That's true. Can I am share a whole foods thing that you posted? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Have you still working whole foods Kevin fairly recently had a job at whole foods? And first of all I wanna get into Kurt return etiquette. That's a big topic. Okay. How long do you have another thing is that it was part of your training and whole foods? I know this because it was. Yes. When you're walking through the store like restocking, something or whatever you're supposed as an employee. You're supposed to recognize the path of the customer struck their path. Keep moving out of the way. Yeah. You do not want to impede the shopper hundred impede the shot. So you're like you're like a British servant or a prisoner to stand with your back against the wall. When the word and comes through, right, right? You. So they can see that. You're not about to do anything with them. You put your palms against the wall. You lean forward who to the car out to out turn your pockets, ma'am? I'm going to reach for the chili paste. I'm restocking stocking the salsas. Oh, yeah. You know, what other stories you talk about? We were on for bagels last week. And I got pulled over. Oh, you're talking about. I'll just tell this. Do you want to get back to the shopping that will go on up on the stack here? It's not that great. If a story, but we just went on for bagels. I'm your parking spot. Admittedly, a very confusing intersection with a train station in lots of shit going down. But I guess I just blew through a stop sign with a cop car directly behind me. And I just didn't I didn't it wasn't man. I wasn't actually trying to flaunt the rules or anything. I just legitimately did not notice the stop sign, and there was no other traffic. So I had no confirmed that I have seen Mex and you've were genuinely driving like a safe good good person on the road. Yeah. Well, I mean, I was tweeting looking for parking spot other than driving quite safely. And so, of course, the cop pulled me over and. You know, I I don't love dealing with the I don't really have any reason for this. Don't love dealing with the police. And so I like I like put my hands on the wheel, and I rolled on the window and turn the music off. And the guys like, do, you know, why pulled you over? And I was like, no. And he was like, he's pretty exasperated. Right. He's like he's like he was furious. He was like you can't just roll through a stop sign with a police officer behind you. And then he and then he like he was really mad at me. And I was like I'm sorry. I it was about it was about him though, is about you not noticing him and being differential. That's the number one thing he was mad about. And then he was really upset. I agree. And and then he asked to see my license, but he only wanted a hand to hold it up. License up. And I was like, and I was like maybe germaphobe, and I was like do you want? Do you just hold it up and sorta squinted at it in a perfunctory way? And then he was like don't do it again, he drove away and I was done. He didn't give me a warning or yellow near any. He was just exasperated. I have a theory about the license wanted to double make sure that you were white, and that you would have very white, and then you had a license. Hey, you're right. That could be it. Yeah. It was like, you know, what he looks white. But I just. No, you're right. I think that's a Alex. I think that's very observant. I think he just wanted to like he he he wasn't trying to screw you over unless you didn't have a license on you. Right. Yeah. He was like, what's the least I can do. But yeah, I get it. Why? How can I mail? I understand why he was mad at me. But I also like like not like sometimes you make a mistake when you're driving feeling no one talks about this. Can you drive through the window of a grocery store? Losing something and misplacing stopping or mislaying, costly inexpensive. And your case. You're flying the laws. You just didn't observe right? Sometimes sometimes you just making up. I did not get a copy of these comments twenty four hours before the podcast, and I would move to table this conversation. I'm gonna I'm gonna move to table the gentleman. We watched it this morning. Five thirty. Watch the pre cover. All right, Kevin shopping carts. We'll come. But we gotta come back. This is the whole segment like oh God. Can you talk about the grocery? So you have some experience as part Wrangler in the in. Yeah. It was my chosen during your shift at any given number of duties that you might have to perform in my chosen of names Kevin to the names for the different job. Absolutely. Absolutely. They do tell me the name. I mean. I mean, there's there's just cashier and sure Stocker well, so that's a different department. That's grocery I was on the customer service ever quick question. What's the procedure around asking people to donate to the victories? Oh, you you're supposed to do. It. You have to ask you. Yeah. I mean, like, it's if they catch you not doing it. Or if they notice that you're not doing it. They'll be like, hey, can you do this put point of information? What is the policy on complementing people's decisions? Oh, that's part of it. Yeah. That's totally fine. Yeah. That's you learn that you pick you chose the. Yeah. Oh, wow. I see you've got some salmon and some Lennon's are you are you concurs to draw implications for sure you got an eating disorder. Yeah. Exactly. You seem like a cutter a lot of insurers. Do you? Problems flea evac. That's a lot of brand for someone in college. Yeah. I saw your teaching. Creepy right? Yeah. Okay. All right. So so, and and I'm bet one nice thing. I always personally, I always chose jobs where I didn't have to deal with people. It seems to me that being the would be nice because you could go outside and mostly just have a break outdoors. Not around your boss. Yes. And you can be on your phone. Oh nice. You had phones then we. We had phone as long as six months ago, we're existence. They they're also hooked up to this thing called the internet. Oh could perform Twitter on my phone while I was doing my active actively serving the whole foods market. No you wear you wear a little reflective vest. Which is I think thing it's so it's it's a tremendous. And you also isn't when it's really cold out. Like, it is in Chicago frequently you get to wear a big puffy reflective jacket. Jack. It's share it between share between associated. Yes. Yes. Yes. There's only there's only one. And so if there are more than there's more than one person going on cartoon in the winter, one person gets the jacket and the other one has to wear the vest, which lists and made us. Oh. Oh, no. It's not laundered. Why would it be laundered? I'll come on. That's like we're in a goofy head without washing. That's no good. You get all the bodies thing. Okay. Sorry. We're taking historic cart return return. So you I mean, what do you want to know about it? I it's awful. And the the customers are are miserable. And can't there's there's no spatial recognition on their part. You could tell everything people say, you can tell what you need to know about somebody from how they treat the way. Charter I feel like I judge people so harshly based on what they do agree. And there's like four ways you can deal with and there's one of them. That's right. And there's three that are wrong. So let's start here. What you should do at the cart. Is we lead into one of the chorale turn it to the corral? Now doesn't matter. How you put it in the? Yes, it's super matters. We. We go on pound sign woke woke. So I don't know this is like an organisational thing. And I feel like people like when they're learning like motor skills and spatial recognition in like round shape in round hole. They learn like these are the carts and the slot together in a very obvious way into the grocery store once you recognize that they're designed specifically to slot together. Right. So when someone just kind of like bowls their cart into it, and it like jumps up into an angle or whatever. And it disrupts the sort of if you sort of glide your card and just toss it in. And let it roll in it a forty five degree angle. Yours is not stack. But all the ones behind it. Are stacked. No, no, you're screwed. Ghost ride your cart into the assembly, you're not helping and that's a whole other can of worms because there's the people who like we'll walk their card up. Right. And they'll just leave it in there and the slotted in or they'll they'll like fully take it. Walk it to the corral and then. The people who get maybe ten feet from the corral. And like I said they bullet at the corral. Just like this is a game for them or that. They can't feel like oh, God, I really got to get back to my car. You know, my groceries are in there. Don't worry. The windows rolled down his favorite music on the splattering. So. You know, it's guy in this UV. I there's a strict correlation between people in vs and just leaving their car on a grassy island. Now, I've been in situations where I haven't returned my carp. Although there they're Where'd you leaf it. Okay. I've been to huge megalopolis grocery store activities. Not in the city. This is more of a suburbs thing and occasionally the parking lot is so poorly. Designed the is not a place for me to put my car. Not not enough around. You didn't put it back because it's a design problem. It is it's. And. C'mon who blames his tools, and listen if it's if it's so far away I have to like if it's like if it's like if it's like an unbelievable inconvenience for me to bring the car to their assigned. What what are you doing with that time that that wouldn't be there in your car waiting? This tweeting tweets to make content. What else do I probably come running late to come back to the office big both full of concept designer and I need to post I need to pose. No. I don't know what I'm doing. I feel very attacked. Right. I don't know. The whole grocery stores a horrible experience. Yes. We're turning the car, and then when you get there, and you're now, you're you've had to walk all the way across this fucking Pacific Ocean of cars to get to your vehicle and your got lost and found it, and then you're looking around, and there's no place for the car. It's the final slap in the face. So I'll just sort of leave. Usually what happens is in those scenarios the parking lot is so poorly designed that other people have started a little. A little trash island of car. Yes. Lost toys like ant trails. Yeah. Like, you get this accidental car carbon comforting fiction. I tell myself as like, well, maybe someone you what they were doing supposed to be there. Because there's already twelve Kurtz there. Oh. Interests hail. You see where people walk before you make the site. Yeah. In. I know if I think about it. I know that those carts. You. This story. So so that's very busy. This is the whole process of like like the cart. Wrangler is the most significant task out of all of the whole foods jobs because it's the official name carton. I don't the system. The he's the best assistance kinda hard to say. Yeah. The. The. Nope. Okay. We're don't this. Kevin someone's. No, it's it's the the the right? It's game. You can gain a fight in your head. Right. And if you're a person who really likes to having a task and completing the task and putting everything back where it goes. It's really appealing right because it's like I can get all these carts to back in the the main corral in like twenty minutes. And then I have ten minutes is just kinda like walk around and let all the cards pile up. And like, this is my reset meantime, right? The pleasure of taking the cards from chaos to order s. Yes. I really I really really can't get into that the part that would drive me. And I actually absolutely I mean, it's like tagging MP threes. It's like a reverse museum plus to put everything back in order to my house when there's a big mass. This putter is power puttering. It's a fantastic feeling. It's a big it's a big power Potter. But what am I favor of feelings in the house is when you know, something needs to get organized. And then you you're this is something I think is very smart about Marie condo. Which is she takes. It all out. You know, the all the way through before it can come out it you got to you. Can't yet organize in the drawers. Right. The whole jurors got to get out and you're going to go through and put stuff back. I love the feeling of going from the big pile to like the new discover the system, and then it all goes back the thing that would drive me to to the point of like insanity is that it's never done that's the carts, and there's more even more card from when you started that's the lesson. So that's that's the varies zen like lesson. You have to learn when you're doing this job and like being a very high stress person I used to get so freaked out. By the the concept of like, no matter how many carts I pushed their never never going to be back. There's no way that I'm ever going to fix this problem. And then you kind of have to learn that like you go at your own pace and someone's going to come to relieve you, and it's going to be there like the carts are never going to all fully back until ten pm. When the circle is right. Like, they're just kind of going to be in like their place to be is out and about and in dumb shit cart islands like that. That is the role of the car and you're fighting your funding chaos and try like no matter what you do. And even then you get like a six hour break before we started on. Yeah. And you come right back the next day. And you you walk up to the building. And there's a kart dislike out in front on the sidewalk. And I worked in a restaurant. I used to have I think a lot of people who've worked in front of house in restaurants have had this nightmare. This dream to two parts to to mine was first of all that the restaurant. I worked at was in my house. It was inescapable and I had and but the the big part that the servers and at the time was a bus. Boy was my first job was that. Like, there's endless endless tables to be played. And it just goes on and on and everyone Kleenex like hydrogen like two more open up, and you you need to get like a whole different state of mind or different paradigm to look at that work. I mean, again, the worst job ever TSA like imagine being the person who has to say only this much liquid and like three out of ten people are going to be going to come with like a water cannon onto the plane, and you does the rest of your life. Now is saying that knowing that almost everybody you encounter every couple of minutes. We'll have water I think it was good for you. Kevin. You've you've learned learned not to have it life experience for sure. Other than the ten years you've loft lost on your life from fifty. Nice place. It was supposed to work in general. I it was complicated. It's like any service job like you customers. And it depends on the neighborhood. You're only as good as the people you have to work with. Yeah. Like, I was very lucky that I had good co workers who who were. I mean, like it's funny because like the whole foods, I think like workforce is made up of like eighty percent artists who are have whole foods is their side gig or whatever, and they're like, well, they're in a band, or they're, you know, it's very Starbucks in that way, told it's it's also like, very Starbucks has corporate culture. And like there's I mean, it's it it it paints a very like, we're the cool one, right? Like do you have to wear? No, you do have to wear a hat if you're going in any like prep areas. And if you don't have your own hat, you have to wear one that is provided for you know, and they're they're they're three. There are three hats that were community. One of them a dunce cap. Might as well. A propeller hat. Goofy. So there was some other carte stuff to kind of blew my mind, occasionally, this is a whole. Sandwich. It's going to be one of those people isn't even talk about survivor. Yeah. This is all and how much did you have to wash your hands? Tell me. Do you know about that? You know about the zone hands on the temperature dangerous for food safe. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. We had to learn all that shit. All that. Really? I learned recently that Carter filthy. Filthiest? There's a reason they started putting those disinfecting wipes. Don't do anything the door. Don't do anything. They don't do anything a baby. With a poopie diaper has been in every card recently where does wipes go after you're done, wiping down your car? That's that's what Michael Stipe says when you throw something away. Whereas the way it's like a wet mass and the volume of the car it goes into Cup holder. That's in the cart for your beer while you're shopping. Now, listen Dr Don if he was on. I think you got on would say that those disaffected whites do something. But what do we know about sector? He's in the pocket of big Parral. Okay. He's trying to move product here. I think that the jury is still out. I think there's no way to know about those about those pocket wipes all the times that he lied about disinfectants was that was that was that to help Mr. Trump. I don't know. They may cause autism. Wow. Your kids, God, anti wipers. Can you have some host? I have worked Kirk questions. Sometimes sometimes the guy is has the big line of the big centipede of carts. Oh, yeah. What's that called carts? Just call it. The Senate seat of carts and someone will come up to them and be like oh here. One more one more. Yeah. No, it's not helpful at all. Oh, I wish flick. I'm helping this is probably a common misconception. And like I mean it in my head. It's not helpful. Because also there's that there's there's so much like passive aggressive. Like, can I give you my car? Like is this are you the cart? Are you? Are you the one? Are you the one? Kind of hangs on. This presumption that you're excited about new carts kind of us. Like, I love what I'm doing right now. I carson. Hurt boy out here to catch him. Party is my path. A because. You know, you gotta you gotta make income somehow. But I'm really in it for the car, you know, they're paying me to do this. But you know, what I would do it if they weren't I play bass for fun, Cartier pokey Pokemon for. Oh, boy, my name boy. Anymore? Other carquest at Disney at Disneyland. There about this thing when I was there where they they paint. There's a lot of stuff that's painted green. I don't have my phone anything this call. Yeah. No, see great. I think is what it's called that. Yeah. There's a severe, and I learned from videos there's a name for you can look this up. But basically, it's like the least noticeable color. Tune americans. I yeah. So basically like it kind of fits in it kind of looks like part of the tree line or something. But once you see it, you can't see it. So like wanna gamble? I saw that. I'll give is in. Let's go. I'm sorry. Go way green green. Okay. So one example, I saw was in the in the in on main street in kingdom in California. They have these old timey nineteen fifty street lights that are like part of the setting of mainstream. Then a and that those are painted, and they look just like street lights, then above the streetlight the poll keeps going up twenty feet, and it has theatrical lighting on it to light the street for the parades and stuff at night. But you don't see that. Because when they switch and the polls now painted, no seem green going all the way up and it's weird. It has this affected when you look at it. You can like see half of the Paul not other ones. They also have like it could be it's a lot of stuff. It's like maintenance things service doorways under construction like fences when they put up fences the screen for you to sit and like but Max's, absolutely right. You will not notice it until you notice it, and then you'll never not notice it. You'll realize how much stuff in the park is painted this color that you like the door of club thirty three Disney exclusive thing, so I feel like the return. No, I. I don't know seem green. Yeah. No, no. I think it's used everywhere. It's a known putt. Bright of it's a ninety nine percent invisible. Nine nine percent of. Yeah. I think it's a it's a thing that's used in places by people who know about stuff. Oh, I have a feeling that in the grocery store once you put on that orange vest. The reflective vests. It's a kind of human no Siham green where person discipline. I'm not thinking about is this guy making benefits, and what's his lifelike? And it's kind of like you become putting a hood on a sexual right? Employment context. Yeah. In a loving way. I want I would be happier. If it was one of those weird robots like the cart robot. Oh, the one they talked about AT like the robot because we're on the store looking for spills. Spill clean them up. Bellows? It's like my cat when she catches a bug. She can't kill. Smell help me. I subdued him off. Well. It's like a Frankenstein monster for news. Things. Mop bring more fun. I have not been to whole foods in forevermore. Why wife I am part of the supporting the gig economy? I'm the worst my wife does go to whole foods. And she says it's real different than it was before Amazon. It's all Amazon is it really is that true. Tell me more about I worked there through the change. So when I when I was there. In the before time and the whole foods head, it's menopause moment. Yeah. Yeah. No, they say hot. That they announced the the buyout people came to work like what's going to happen. Like there at all of a sudden be some sort of like Jeff Bezos himself was going to walk through the door the entire stores replaced with HD fifty buffeted movies. Just like looking at shit and turning it into like kiosks. He comes. He comes through in trenchcoat like no more apples. And then last maniacally for twenty five minutes. No, it's so they're definitely pushing prime. Memberships like a lot of signs around the store where it's like you saving with prime the new the new checkout procedure is that you open the Amazon app. And then there's you go into sub menu of sub menu to find this like QR code, and then you hold the QR code up, and they scan it it gives you twelve cents off your your prime person. You're like waxy produce. Is I love my waxy, my waxy produce. Yeah. Do you not about like scan your your Amazon app? I haven't been to a whole foods in a while. I also confess that I have my setup for groceries right now is pretty sweet, I do the Amazon grocery delivery, which was like free for me for for like big prime prime now for anything. That's any yet prime. Yeah. It's like it's like prime now for whole foods, or it's like, I don't know. So basically, if you don't know if you're if you're a prime member, and it's in your area, the single prime now that will usually deliver in a two hour window, and it's a ton of like the stuff you would want from Amazon. And it's of course, it's utter Mickley picked brilliantly. But then as a separate section just for restaurants. There's a separate section for whole foods fresh, isn't it like prime fresh or something they have. Oh, you I'm sorry. You're talking about a different thing. Yes. Yes. There's the subscription separate subscription service that I think is called. Yes. Amazon fresh groceries on fresh, and they come from whole foods and anything that's a packaged. Good anything from the center of the store. I just order there. Because you know, what do I need to go to the store to get like a king? Arthur flower like thing of LaCroix, anyone I? Need to pick shop the perimeter thing is the right? And then when I go to a little like a little like Bodega in my neighborhood. And so I go there for my like that it's like, it's they have great produce and stuff. So. I used to live right behind a jewel and Edgewater produce. So it right. Had my could go get good produce and good food. And then if you can swing that. So that you go pick your produce out of a little market. That's basically what you want is just the outside of the grocery store in one building. And then have the internet deliver the inside of. That's so true. Yes. Sometimes I mean like liquid insta- card or with some of these things sometimes they replacements at the come up with our allies. There should be a tumbler about this. We ask for KADO sushi for my kids launch for avocado sushi, and they gave sweet potato and kale salad. Not even in the ballpark. Really know what I would have picked or my favorite. Also when you say like, I need member four coffee filters. Get you to number two. The math adds us. Let's. Oh, so max, you that's that's a pretty good setup. And that works for you. I love your middle of the store thing though. I'd never thought of it quite that way. But it's really true. If it's something you don't need to thumper blocker listen to like pick the best avocado. It does manage the box. Yeah. It's pump loosen acrylic. Right. A matter who buys a motorcycle is that motorcycle. Boy, no different motor. Sorry. The motorcycle boy leaves around eight forty. How did? Highly revenue this morning. Fucking tearing it up. Popping re pops up on just the back wheel remember? Yeah. San Francisco wheel. I've had I was in San Francisco, and I saw a man doing San Francisco Willie on a light pole New Orleans cost you a hundred bucks. Nothing to me. Yeah. It's a complicated. Time to do. Anything? I go to the jewel us. I walked to the jewel Osco like a normal adult. I go to my old jewel Osco. Can we talk about survivor? Oh, well, we launched it. Can I talk about it? Yeah. I did. It's time. We talk. Oh my God. Damn jaws. Whatever max likes this week is your job now. If you come back. So there's a the political news is insane today. But I almost feel like we shouldn't talk about it. Because like it's happening right now by the time people here, this it's already going to be recorded reconcilable differences less night and came home just as Coen's opening statement was released Russians about this. But I I'm very excited about the Chicago actions. Couldn't be happier. Couldn't be happier with the show. There's like fourteen people running is that right? The election to election yesterday. There's a runoff so basically the top two vote-getters moved to a runoff and all around the board. I couldn't be happier. There were a bunch of democratic socialist got elected and unseated incumbents. My my guy Carlos Rosa of got elected, I think without a run off. And then the two mayor all candidates who advanced runoff are Lori Lightfoot and Toni preckwinkle and honestly couldn't couldn't be couldn't be happier. I mean, it will be the first non white guy mayor of Chicago in my lifetime. Which is which is which is cool and they're both. They're both very progressive. No dailies, no dailies at all the jet. He was the Jeb of this race. He's he's been like did you see the cost? See I have anything with me. But alex. Token, I made he's spent like millions of dollars to say my name's daily vote of daily he spent like one hundred fifty dollars per vote and Lori Lightfoot spent like twelve dollars per vote. Like disparity of what they spent per vote was shocking. Like, I couldn't believe it. And yeah, he didn't even get into the runoff. So I just couldn't be more thrilled. Yeah. It's wild. And if if the election was today, I'd probably vote for Lori Lightfoot. I think she's like slightly more progressive on a on a bunch of that I care about. But on like it really is down. I really doesn't matter. There's I mean, it doesn't. Okay. How do it does matter? We can't lose. We can't lose. There's a like the it's amazing to the city. No matter who wins daily spent one hundred twenty one dollars and seventy seven cents per voter. I can get your four of condos. Customer. Really, more like paycheck. Oh, man. This. That's exciting. Yeah. It was a big night. How much foot? Like, probably thirty. Oh, wow. Eighteen dollars twenty cents is everyone in this race a character from marvel marvel comic right Lightfoot sounds like my half, Ling, thief, or whatever. That's my first Sony. A little rabbit. And then who is the guy who is the guy who just went around handing out wads of cash Willie. Oh, Willie Wilson. Stanley Stanley name all of these character Wilson got radioactive mayor. The proportion strength and skills. Behrman mayor man may or man forever alderman. Wilson takes a bribe any size. Let's right between his size. Man. Strategy was literally that he went around handing out cash, Mr Mayor. He got photographed doing it. And he was like, yeah. Whatever I'm wants cash, and he did quite well show me the rule show me the rule show me the rule that I can't do that was his campaign. He went around giving wads of cash to people, and it was very successful. I think even he probably spent less than than daily he did his his, wow, thirty dollars and thirty eight cents in all in cash. But I guess oh well, anyhow unless anyone has any other. I think we're going to have to talk about the the politics news next week. Just because we know what the fuck is happening right now. Has anyone have any anything else before we had vino? We're good good. Good killing challenge you Max's challenge this week Max's challenge this week. It was watched the new season of survivor at your close personal friend Jeff drope south. What is it? Like, you know, what I feel maybe in the after show get into a slightly more detail. I don't wanna Meccano-like super brag on Jeff PROST. But I have to say like it's the second time out with him. A lot of work. It's the second time out with him. Gonna super brag about no, no. Or get it out. Looking forward to the third time spent time with me. And I work I've met lots of because heard about Lucas, I am I work. I've met lots of celebs and politicians or whatever and a sign of like someone like a lot of people kind of don't give a shit about you. If you can't do anything for them. And they don't remember it you so transparently like not a full human being to them. And I really have nothing to offer Jeff Probst like, I think he's cool. I enjoyed talking about survivor with him. But like he doesn't like I mean like I have I have nothing for him. Right. Like, I'm not I like he doesn't think it's cool that I make our game. Yeah. And he remained. He was so kind. I mean, he was so generous he remembered our conversations at the conference we were together like follow up questions like he was just the sweetest nicest guy. He was so happy to have everyone over like such generous. How host he has one of the most beautiful houses I've ever seen in my entire life. Like, it was one is a great experience. And I didn't steal anything. Now what we really care about though, Mark Burnett. So Mark Burnett was I did get a text from my from from from my friend who kind of invited me to go to this thing. And at the time when we had made the plans, it was going to be like a few of us hanging out with Jeff from watching the thing, and it, and then it turned into quite a gathering of people in Jeff sort of theater theater slash living room. Like all sitting around watching this thing, and I got the tax like a couple of hours before I went there. Okay. Don't freak out with Mark Burnett is coming. I'm like don't do anything. They knew me while enough to be like don't do anything weird. Right. Like, this is my friends like don't embarrass me at at at gross out until we're at t shirt with the message. What did I use the videos you coward? Once you get that on a shirt, you'll see. Go to check probes house. I did meet Mark Burnett. And I would say he I thought what can I say about? I saw British. Did you know that? Yes. Oh, well, okay. I didn't know. I don't know he has one of those big personalities like it almost reminded me of of. I was at the democratic convention one time, and I I didn't meet him, really. But I was like in the room with Bill Clinton. And this feeling I got when Bill Clinton came into the room was like the lights got brighter, and I can't describe it. It's like, you're the neck the hair stands up on the back of your neck. And it's and it's not me. It's like everybody feels it. It's something that the pressure dropped in the room or something. Like, I don't know how to say it. It's like it's like a million years of like monkey brain trying to figure out like hierarchy of the tribe of monkeys is responding to something about this guy. His his his aura Ramones I something's happening and he comes into the room. And you're just like, it's it's like, I sense agree disturbance in the force like very long wave singer gave for Mark Burnett. Yeah. No, Mark Burnett has that he has that like he came in the room, and everyone got quiet like, I don't know. It's like he's got that. He's got that energy. I it's hard for me to put my finger on at except. I think if you've had an experience of I felt this once when we were in a bar, Alex. Remember when we were in in the in the basement of drink waiting to get into drink and Charlie's thrown came in and blew in there with not there, and she she had the ipad. I've had with her. I felt it then too. And I didn't know who the fuck it was because I don't want. I'm not going to recognize these throw, Sean. But the feeling I got was like it was like either lights flickering in nearly as what is going on. Like, you just felt that the whole energy of the room changed, and it was a powerful wizard came in here. Like, what is this like, it was it's crazy. It's like when like Dumbledore comes into the room and all the doors, slam shut behind him or something. I know what it was like to watch. Mark Burnett watched survivor. Well, it was I mean, it was I mean, we were all sitting in sort of couches like I think it was Jeff arranged his living room facing this like huge projector screen. So we weren't it was like we were all sitting in rows of couches. And we were there wasn't a ton of interaction. Like people dig it. It was fun. It was fun as fuck like everyone was cheering Slyke taught. We taught he we watched it on some sort of tvos or something suggested four through the commercials, which was funny. Like, I thought maybe he'd have some sort of like special sort of like reading sort of laserdisc and Butler with white gloves like put it into the player. But no, I was like it was. Stevo, and it was great. And and he is always an amazing av system. So it's like nice to really look see the edit and thought it was like a super we'll talk about the episode second to super super high production episode of survivor and then afterwards, Mark Burnett, sort of he did sort of hold forth, and he sort of talked about the show and the season, and everyone sort of sat there and listened to him participate and just saying that was intra. I mean, it was it was it was spellbinding. I couldn't almost tell you what he said it was like listening to Trump speak. Like, I can't tell you that. I got the feeling of like what what is that? What is that? When you hear Trump speak in your like something's happening here. I don't know what he's saying. Did either of you or any of you? There's so many I read the article, I think it was Entertainment Weekly that was basically a an expose of the first day of shooting. That was fucking incredible ruin did, you know, we're talking about. No, this is really up your alley. You should. It's w survivor. I it's remarkable. If it's it's it's an hour. It's a tick tock like minute by minute. Oh, wow. That sounds great behind the scenes behind the scenes of the marooning. Yes. That's exactly. And it goes what a minute. What does the production crew to get ready to do to get ready for that first thing where they all jump off the boat, and that is the level of detail? I want when I'm like how does this show get made like Attlee goes into it? Yeah. It's everything we won't. And now I'm searching for like Reddit threads and stuff for basically the rest of the season. Like, it is it's amazing. But you just watch the show. I don't explain the rules for the. On every week. But this. I know watched. I think twelve seasons of survivor, and I still have so many questions every single episode. But I have a question for you Merlin. How many people do you think work on on location on survivor thirty five? Is that a serious answer? How the fuck would. I have any idea how many people work on. I have a child I have a child Twitter account. You should be ashamed of yourself. I do up to four podcasts. I have a child in a Twitter account. How in the fuck would. I have any idea early twenty twenty twenty one people twenty to twenty ashamed you should be ashamed of yourself. One eighty six. No, I'm going to say five people. At worse. Alex, seventy three seventy three people. This is so shameful over six hundred fifty people. That's crazy. Remarkable. No. Yes. No, I'm lying Entertainment Weekly lie to you know, they're owned by Warner. What's more adorable spoilers for this article every season starts, Jeff don't for the? Oh boy. I love having. From the hit podcast reading. Can we let's give Kevin a few hundred dollars drum self. All right. All right. Watch watch it. I know what it costs. You only wake me for the important media heaven Kevin had to go back to his home planet. Don't put you me. Go into space your real. Oh, my God challenge challenge to to mex-. What the Jeff Probst there's an article on a magazine six six hundred that's like crew craft services. I went to house of pies in in Los feeless. Can I got a beautiful glazed berry pie pie in nice bottle to to bring to to your friend? Jeff has and you take any ammonium. Yeah. Pharmacy pharmacy. And I was also like I thought maybe I Jeff and I had talked about magic. And he came to this magic session. I did at this conference. So I thought maybe people would wanna see magic tricks because because we had had that interaction for sure. And so I was fucking strapped to the gills with magic stuff. Like I had just like wires coming off my body. Just like my socks I'm like, I just came in like three layers of trenchcoats with like, magnets and pendulums. All just shaking. I walked points falling on it. And I was like ready. I was like strapped to the gills ready to go, and nobody it was like it would have been so fucking weird to do any magic tricks that party like not. Good, you waited and read the rooms matching you like pulling away your tearaway, trouser and don's come flying out of your shirt. Blimey governor says Mark Burnett. All right. So I brought this about the season. Thirty eight episode one of one of those situations where like I brought this and then it sort of got taken out. But nobody like everyone was like scared to touch it. And then I I don't know if anyone eight the pirates anybody else bring food. Yeah. People brought stone K. So there were like flowers and whiskeys and things like that. And people bought brought flowers it's the premier of TV season. I guess oh, sure. I've never premiered team. No, not yet. Really nice. You're right. You're right. You hope if you're doing something for twenty years people still give shit enough to give you flowers when you do a new one eight million bucks a year. Like, it's not like it's much easier. Okay. I'll take you. I new couches from my home. See which plan for? So did we like the first episode of the us about carts? Oh, God did episode. I haven't have you. Have you seen survivor before? Yeah. I watched survivor throughout most of my like middle school high school. Okay, variance. Yeah. My parents. And I watched it every Thursday night. Okay. Do you have favorite season? I have favorite characters. I'm my memories. Rupert higher it. Yeah. I have I've some very like spotty memories of it. Not the guy with the crazy beard tie-dyed shirt guy. Dang to love him for my dang Thome opinion on Ozzy. Oh is Ozzy on the new one also really bad with names? He's the one who on who's got the top not in the mustache. No. That's no. She's the one who always wins like you could have played with honor. But you chose not to. Oh, he's not. He's not coaching judged. Judge me by my challenge is not by my final council. He's not coach. He's very curly hair. You're so full of shit, Alex. He looks like the guy from working Pollock's. Oh, he's a good fucking fishermen to this. He provides Fisher. Yes. He climbs trees. Look a monkey. Yes. Yes. I remember him. He was good. He was I think the first sort of like when you start to recognize the archetypes of survivor. He was the first one was like this. The young sorta dude who's like very buff in very tan and like really good around camp and really fun to watch later seasons as you slowly ages and recognize this own mortality. Chilling up. So that at all do we think Joe we Joe is hot because that's a frequent the show the mustache top nine. Yeah. He's on the news. He's a returning guy from you season. And it's like frequently looks like he recently got promoted to head barista and really he's at one of those Starbucks reserve stores where they have to wear like troby, right? He has owned a fedora on a tiny trilby on his top. They constantly talked about Al hot. Like live finales stuff. They're constantly talking about Joe is and how everyone wants to fuck him. And that do we feel like that? No. He's not my type. That's nice. He's interchangeable with is to me in my head. Like that is Malcolm Malcolm's another way. All if Malcolm shaved he is an interesting looking person. I will say right Felix. Joe is a better. He's he's like I want to hang out with Joe more than I wanna hang out with Malcolm. It's got a nice smile. He does he like knows how to build shit. Oh, malcolm. I love Malcolm. Yeah. He was great. I'm here. Here's something I've noticed from later seasons. A lot of them have started to wear like Jeff Probst, he'd type like tribal necklaces like seashells and stuff on them is why is that? Because that seems like it's very easy to make fake Eitel out of that. Right. Right. Yeah. I want to know the rules like the I've read the rule book, and maybe that's making on the island for the like, what are you gonna do all day, and you're bored. No, no. But it's like the first episode, and they're all, you know, like, oh, I've got the seashell met Klis, man. I don't know. Maybe it's just like the show culture thing is like they're like I'm going on survivor. I got. This up wishing I'll I'll take anything I can bring if you can get a piece of string on the island that way like bring anything. Yeah. If I went on survivor, all I would do is find some like, flat rocks, and all I would just sit in the shelter in practice coin tricks. And by the time, I got voted out in week thirty two I'd be so good. Be. Unbelievably good Aucoin tricks. Carve a little face on one side and a little heads and tails of a coin if I I don't know that that's that important for any tricks that I do are you need to know the heads and the tails it was. Okay. Did we like this episode Merlin? Yeah. I mean surprise. All the same. I wouldn't care about this. One tenth is just you guys to it's entertaining TV show. Terrible. Terrible. TV shows best reality show, perhaps best games. I agree bar is so low I can barely see the greatest social experiment. Easily. It was good. It was good. Like, wendy. I Larry couple of who's Wendy colored hair girl cute. Yeah. Yeah. So cute. I do this with my hands. I love her so much not not long for this world. I fear. No, she's going to go give it three weeks. I give her tonight. Meet you I was making my dossier was like boy, this person's gonna be really obnoxious to watch on the island. And then like she got actually thought she was so likable like I. Yeah. I hope she gets more stories. I thought that the production values on this episode were just out of control. I thought this was probably visually like the best survivor episode. That's ever been made they opening package of the season where they had all the slow MO shots of the contestants. And everything was just like fucking stunning. Like, the music was great. They had a new camera. They have a did you notice that they have a wire Cam like Vanco uses? And so there was some shooting through the obstacle course. And at the time, I was like is that a fucking ballsy drone pilot who's doing that? Right. And I I was like is this b roll which I wouldn't have a problem with. Yes. It's like, oh, clearly these are the contestants. Oh, it was shot. I'm referring to is be row where it goes flying through the the the obstacle course. But I think too because I did have you right? Yes. They did have some of the challenge. It's very Connectik. It looks really cool. It looks very it's a it's a it's a great shot. And it's a new addition to like visual vocabulary of survivor. I thought was really exciting. I think they're getting more funny and modern with edits in general and survivor. So last season. There was a thing where everyone was out looking for the middle. And then it cuts and then it cuts Davey, and he's like, well, I know that none of them have found the idol because I have it. They've literally never been on the air for twenty years in the never done an edit like that they always you're always contemporaneous with the action. And just the whole notion of the show knows something that you don't and they're being a little coy. And they're they're they're making it what is that? It's like more aditorial in their edits. That's brand new. And I thought it was Zillah rating. And there's clearly more of that the season it feels very fresh. And then I don't wanna ruin it for anyone who might watch. But there is as per the theme of the season. There's kind of a crazy thing that happens at the end of the episode, and I thought visually that's very different than anything. They've done on survivor before the way that it was the reveal. Well, they've never had that kind of lighting on survivor. Right, right. It was very Blair witch. Yeah. I I thought it was cheesy. And then I was genuinely like put on edge. That is going to be like, I mean, I was watching a pretty Fremaux like environment for being affected by it. But I was real -ffective by like it, really. I was really like I was like I was like the hair was standing up. I had chills. I thought it was great. I thought it was one of the best moments of a motive. The music was good like. Wow. And the way they did the lighting of the torch shot with Jeff where he's like twenty or what is it thirty nine days twenty contestants one hell of a helicopter shot? Yeah. How that shot was right easy. Like zoomed all the way out into space. I love I love that. When the pullback. Sufa? Turner, his safety. Like, he's he's Ron one season where he's like standing on top of a windmill. That's in the. He's riding or. Flying flying through space in a human skull.

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World Password Day, Tesla Hacking via Drone, Ipsos Screenwise Panel

The Shared Security Show

29:35 min | 2 months ago

World Password Day, Tesla Hacking via Drone, Ipsos Screenwise Panel

"You're listening to the shared security. Show exploring the trust you put in people and technology with your host tom. Welcome to episode one. Seventy two of the weekly shared security show and joining me. This week is the dynamic. Duo of co hosts kevin johnson and scott rights. No way she's question does that make us your sidekick superhero. I'm not wearing tights. Thank thank goodness. It gives us a cool utility boat. Yeah yes i actually. Don't you have a lotta tights due to all the the managing since things. I'm just throwing that out there under the Stormtrooper sandra will wear like under armor. The brand is a compression. Your compression Stuff yeah let be tights. Yeah yes yes Okay you're right you got me. I wear the sites to of start this episode off. I wanna wish both of you. Happy world password. Day world password. Yes you know what. I missed it by a day. I change my password. Yesterday today nasa again the password. But it's okay. Just use the one you were using before yesterday rotation yes yes. I trump all my passwords are tires that way they rotate regular bomb. Firestone left front yes. Yes but yeah. Today is world password day i. It's kind of those not really advertised. Kind of like a hallmark holiday right like sweetest day. would you compare it to that. I now all the people that celebrate sweetest day or in a yell at me but swedish stat that it's a northern thing. Can't candidate sky. Stop that for north. Okay so it's scott. It's a southern thing. But you're saying you didn't even know swiss day is. It's called a a hallmark holiday. I think it's like in october. And you're supposed to buy another valentine's day who your sweetheart is. You're supposed to buy them gifts with bob. Yeah it was. It was made by. I think hallmark greeting company to sell more cards essentially so never heard of and password day. Apparently people only in cleveland. But passover day is meant to sell your passwords. Ju just appear in your background or had. He been there the whole time and i just noticed. Oh i like the scott looks behind him. That just appeared now. I knew star wars background. I'd never seen okay. He is moving. Got it on okay. Now so those are the on youtube channel. Take a close. Look at scott's screen background what what's going on but so so little little history about world password day there. There's a security researcher mark burnett who He had encouraged people that He wrote a book called perfect passwords. Have you ever heard of that book was like heard of it and five came out and he had this this idea that it would be great to have one day dedicated to Changing passwords and talk about password security and then until actually made it. I guess with all their marketing. Power right that intel has official in two thousand thirteen and then we've had it ever since and it was interesting because i saw a lot of articles and i got tons of pr spam about. Oh my gosh world password day. Do you wanna have augusta on to talk about passwords. Like we've talked about passwords. I think every show. So every show is like world password day on the shared security show. But whatever i am struggling so hard not to make murphy comers. You started this. By referring to mrs security researcher. You then talk about what will a perfect. Because i don't know this guy. I've ever read the i totally. Judging based on the comments you made the judge which we all know my opinion scary researchers just another term for criminal office by okay so security research and the perfect password. No such thing i. It's not going to be a password paraphrase if anything wait like four five. His great plan is to tell everybody in the world. Okay may whatever the heck day today password. Because that's the way to fix security so every the snark is building. I'm gonna i'm bill triggers into the show. I do i do. I want to trigger kevin. Actually how thinking it was more like. They're kind of like large of prime numbers right they. They're very rare now perfect passwords. Oh yes so. I guess that does lead to question. Because i did read an article. Anything dark reading about you know his world password. Dade we need this anymore because of how things have changed since two thousand and five. You're just bring bringing back to bill gates is saying passwords are dead. Man he said sixty four k is for anybody in forty k. We're talking about any time. You talk about technology. it's dead right. let's be very clear. I have code. i wrote in nineteen. Maybe one powering the power grid in. Yes yes yes. You're right passer dead. This'll be the last time in podcasts. Were down into and seven. Apparently right this is the official snark episode token. What are you doing. There's a bear have to poke it. Let's let's talk about kevin's car. Let's let's talk about my car. I think that doing something to build awareness about passwords and managing syndication in all of this kind of stuff is really good. I think helping people understand. Stuff i just. I find that when we simplify stuff in the message like that what we're doing were pissing on our users. Were were basically saying you all or too stupid to understand this so let me make it dumb enough for you and i find that insulting and i find it an awful way to do security and i want to be clear. I am one of the people that you talk about idiot users. I admit that i was wrong. And saying that people okay. It's made six change. Your password is the same thing okay. It's made six. Please brush your teeth and change your underwear like oh man. We have to say that every year. Well we had to the last year but that is defcon thing. I was bragging con. I've been economy bench. I like let me very clear. You can buy tickets to get into a convention lis. Please spend a little money and buy soap and beer and the breaking topics you hear told you down your next article. Yes yes so. Let's move on from world. Passer day. I do wanna talk about tusla's though and this is a this is a topic near and dear heart kevin. Because you have this idea. Did you know that drones are now remotely hacking. Tusla's how do you feel about this. I have actually attached to drone to my tesla. Just a pre hackett. I did i yes. I read the article. I think it's an interesting that then. i I'm i'm not surprised by right. We're using we with people. Low whoever developed somebody is building a system. they're using libraries and software from other people are using it badly or it has flaws. That's reality right. It's a cool attack I you know. I feel like the drone aspect is is to get a headline because he don't need a drone to do it. No you could easier though to follow you close enough to actually you. Don't think are can follow me. You think might tesla so fast. That a not without kevin catching on. Oh that's a good point. I think solar attention. When i'm driving very glitter when i'm riding 'cause the cars driving and so i i think i really is cool attack. I think it it. What what is it. S bomb software bill of materials on. Bet this in. My opinion really pushes the idea i know. I know alan would love to hear this. Wasp would here this Talking about this This brings up the idea to knowing what he says during your products in. Don't know what pieces are in your product. Yeah whether you the the the The consumer me in this case right now why car or even just the manufacturer does does tesla know all of this osler. That's in there and we can pick on tesla because it's a good name in its it gets attention This goes across the board of a question for you than can so. I'm curious do you know how many wireless interfaces there are on a tesla. Is there just one or other minute. How many thirty seven. okay. So i would. I would say the answer to your question about whether tesla knows or isn't control totally made that up. I have no idea how many business are on my tesla. You'll be you're you're right right like how many of that what's there. What is this thing i. I think that this is where we have to start trying to get people to disclose what they're building office right now and you'll have used this example a million times i. I was a webster administrator a job. I don't wish on my worst enemy in. I would way back in the three dot five four days. Not that's relevant except that back then. You had to actually declare the path when you deployed kitchen rate. It wasn't deployed to year or a war file. Or whatever and i would work with the developers and be like okay. You're you're what's the class that you need auto know. What do you mean you don't know built this but like you developed it. Oh yeah that wasn't the fun part ask do you need the one that will get me every single time. We rolled out q. And in we developers would build to it. Because it's the new thing and it's awesome been. i'm old and all people are m q. Like the letters and the outset In we would deploy the code in it would just fail because it would require the the m q jar files and the configuration. You'd go back to the developer. And what the. I don't know but you. It's the same thing here right. They're using software pieces. They don't necessarily. I'm not i'm not saying tesla doesn't know necessarily that. They know and lets me out. i'll confidently say. They don't know every package because they may know a package they use but it uses three other packages which use or other packages really no define best practice that says you have to disclose what libraries using from third parties rights in that is what the s bom and similar projects are trying to get to write. Let's when we deploy a piece of software. We have a bill of materials. What what is in that required to tell me. What's in my food right. Let me know what's in my software especially when we're talking about software. That can control. Whether or not i kill random people on the side of the room right not on purpose for the equivalent of listing calories. Wonder will they would call that the horsepower. But that's not why. I don't think that i Yeah no i just. I a cool attack a really neat but yeah i this. It just shows the same probably had yeah on it minded. I was thinking it was going to be. Charlie miller revealed. I guess not. I don't think working in that space anymore. I don't know. I'm not sure. I haven't heard from in a while. He's not retarded. he's still working space anymore. But i could be wrong. I haven't talked long. Can let your point kevin about like. Oh it's a drone right so it's a sexy attack now like i see a lot of that these days in florida i can shoot down it. It does sound like a spy movie though. That's what i said. When i sent you the emails imagine oh and i do want to clarify. We'll have a link in the show notes. The full article This attack did not starts or drive away. The tesla to be clear it only was able to take over the infotainment system. Which had controls basically would simulate. What a regular user do which is open the doors and the trunk. Lock it unlock at the ac on off interesting with with tesla could actually control the navigation from there. No now links that what. Most people don't understand about tesla's that are full. Self-driving not full self-driving yet right so in my car i can. I can keep it in a lane. I can have it till speed. I can have a chain stuff like that end. If i'm on highways it will navigate so like my commute in get off the seventeen onto ninety five and then go over san jose not that that specifically is important. But when i'm on the on ramp i can car just takes over and it will get onto the highway change lanes and go to the right exit and get off right which is nice But it is not like you can say to it take me to publix and it will drive you to the local public's they're all coming over this elon musk's tweets out at least once every month anytime that's goes a little bit lower out about it again and but the others in mind is there are other controls for example. Can't open the the on my car. The hatchback right you can't pop the hatchback if the car's not in parked right so so it's like i've seen some not the article that you linked to but some other references where people like. Oh my gosh people fall out. Now come on. Stop being idiots but right like that. it's not in. There is ex expectation that they could escalate further. They didn't it has just a wedge. So we don't know what they can do that show up and it'll burn eight hours. Firemen won't know how to put it out. Not tesla wasn't that other. Yes that was that story that people were killed in that car. Yeah yeah it was awful that they died articles about it with just outright stupid spring-summer are upon us and that means it's time for some much needed vacation time with friends and family but this also means that you need to be aware of data privacy and how to protect your laptops smartphones and key-fobs while traveling airports and other public areas can often be targeted by attackers. Looking to gain access to your devices through their wireless signals. So instead of worrying. About disabling or turning off wireless functions. It's so much to place them in a faraday bag when they're not being used and if you want the best protection that you can get you wanna be using silent pockets. Premium faraday bag product line that blocks all wireless signals. So don't forget to get yourself a fair day bag before you head out on your vacation in right. now you can use. 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Click armor can help so go to click armor dot ca slash shared security to learn how to build a self defending team. So last story is is a personal story that i wanted to to talk about. I had received something in the mail worthy of podcast discussion. No kevin it. Wasn't your pen. Thank you though yes. We're gonna talk about pen testing today. And we're to use kevin's pen that he so graciously gave me no. We're gonna talk about a a letter. That i got in the mail from a company called ipsos. Is that how you pronounce. It announce it. I don't know. I don't know polling company. Yeah so polling company. They are partners with google and they have this thing called the screen wise panel and apparently people get randomly selected for this program What i found interesting was that there's this you get this. You open up the envelope and then there is a real dollar bill brand new real dollar bill attached to the paper. Yes this is. This is legit as a kind of a teaser. Because i was actually throw this out. I was just going to toss it in the trash like other junk mail and legal the throat money. I know that's i'm like it's not money but it is illegal to destroy it or stroke. Yeah yeah yeah the face it or whatever so. I thought it was interesting because what they're doing is if you sign up for this program. They want they will send you a wi fi router and it collects every site you go to every type of device that you use in your house in it sends this information to google and of course they will compensate you for that through you. Know they have a program of they give you five dollars to sign up twenty dollars or completing their survey one hundred dollars when you get the router and up to sixteen dollars each month for every person in your house as as compensation for sharing your well your internet history essentially and what your devices are doing on your network interesting. That's all the reason to stand up raspberry pi with the script. That just rolls the most disgusting. I was right proposal proposal. Got like if there's something that people open up the browser and go. Oh my god and they have to have therapy. That's what you want to crawl with this thing absolutely absolutely. We'll have to have a download site for that script to. Yeah so i just thought it was an interesting first of all sending this to me is kind of ironic. Because i would never talk about this on the podcast in number one never signed up or something like this. Because you know. I've been be careful what i say about google because this is on youtube but you know. Google is known for obviously collecting this information using to monetize ads. All those things. So i just. I don't want to say as a warning to people but i think sending us out to the general population for people that aren't security or privacy aware a little bit concerning because you may not know what you're getting into for a couple of bucks. Yeah especially when you look at like when you send it over for us to review before the before the show you had the to article one was about the company one was a review. And i've read the review it in the guy who wrote it. I said guy. Whatever i i don't know The the the. I always a scam when they start talking about something that i didn't believe in all right and then they start talking about well. You know what you're talking about. But but are they really gonna guess they are rightly if they're intercepting your web traffic and they know what you're talking period. I remember that sense. Because he says i i was little uneasy but then i thought it was from google an episode to reputable. Yeah okay buckling got paid. I here's my answer i i. I'm probably the wrong person. i liked personalized ads. Yeah you said that the if all website and it's got ads on it in mid and and this is where. I changed my mind a few years ago. I was adamant i would never run an adblocker. I run one now and have for a few years but I like when i go to a site and it says hey kevin you look at it this thing. Now i will laugh. I don't know why. Amazon ads. Every amazon i ever get. It's something i already bought like. I'll go in for a week. That item right. But i came in worse. Do you guys you guys have an app. Called could g g or a website For selling in candidates you can use it for classified ads right so he says to whole up in for surgery for all little cows in catholic. Craigslist exists for another kind of craigslist. But i have the op for it. And i sold a few things over the last few months and now i'm getting actual post like suggestions. Hey here's something you might want to buy. No i just sold bad. What are they thinking so. I like personalized ads. But i don't like him enough to let them know every single thing i do and we'll go live a pretty open. Public likes and only like. I'm a celebrity in public arena is. I don't believe. I have any privacy. I really don't It so i just expect that the information about me is available and people can see it and you know whatever and even with that. I'm not comfortable attaching advice to my network but just monitors at least kevin. He'll yeah. I have lived their way out there right. It must be clear. I have echoes in my house right like i have and i don't mean that the you know the house is so big it echoes. I mean i have device. And right i to do this i want but i do. I do recommend taking up on it and tom. If if you're not in doing it. I can throw one of my people writing the script of to just crawl. I don't know where to get the list of therapy inducing point. I don't know. I might take a bit of thought. We could bring her a becca herald as well because she likes this kind of stuff to all the other angle to this too is. It'd be interesting to get one and actually see how what is collecting and where it's sending it. If you're not willing to take it requested it to me. I will vote in a lab here and get one of my people. We got to intern starting in a couple of weeks. Got on that i. If you're willing to pick it up. I'm willing to throw personality. Look out what it's doing. I don't know if i can afford it awaits. They pay me so all seriousness. I i would love to see what it does right now. I'll think about that cool. I was gonna say there's another irony ironic story. I heard the security related. But i don't know if you guys have time for it or not. Yeah so so. You know edward snowden. Does you know talk. Did you hear about this or he. He shut down a scammer in the middle of his live event. It was it was pretty funny. It was actually a canadian guy. Really proud of this but israeli a canadian guys scammer was a canadian guy doing a private cloud private investment club or something like that right where he's raising money. It turns out that the ponzi scheme and he'd been charged like a couple of years ago by the securities commissions and somehow got off and he still still doing the same thing and he hires edward snowden to talk on one of his live events that attract people because they love his name and he talks for a while. In the periphery about why he did what he did. All the good stuff and he says he sorts sunday. Get up for the fall. But you gotta find this youtube. I'll i'll see if i can get it to thomas shows shown notes partway through it. He's just going you know it's kind of ironic that you've asked me to speak here as a whistle blower. I feel compelled to tell everybody. That's watching all the guys sprays. Just goes. I've gotta take five minutes now. You share that one. I will share the kenya chug a carbonated water without burping kid who is like a twenty second video in the chaos. That ensues kid does this. Is i feel bad for the dude. But i will admit i watched the video about thirty times. I'll watch watch for one where they put the mentos into the. This is like a carbonated at right in. I in this. Is this speeding. My soda addiction finally stopped. I'm not drinking soda anymore. Which is awesome but If this kid. I don't know why he says something about a lego death star. You may not have a lego death star but i can burp i can chug one of these without burbank links. It and then chaos erupts. And i'm not gonna i'm not gonna spoil it for you. I will get the league out do is like oh my gosh what why. Why would you do that. Like i don't know i don't know what the ironic that kevin you have a lego death star. I don't anymore on craigslist i. That's awesome yes. I did have a lego. That start so it is. It would have been ironic in not the alanis morissette ironic to appease on this show. There can do well with that. Thought about irony gonna show. Thanks for hanging in with us. Thanks everyone for listening and thank you both for being on the show. This week is fine and we'll talk to everyone next time that's all for this week. Show visit our website shared security dot net for all previous episodes and a sign up for our email newsletter. First time listener to the show. Please subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. And be sure to subscribe to our youtube channel. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next week for another episode of the shared security show.

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The Tech Humanist Show: Episode 5  Safiya U. Noble, Ph.D.

The Tech Humanist Show

58:23 min | 1 year ago

The Tech Humanist Show: Episode 5 Safiya U. Noble, Ph.D.

"Hi Everyone. Who We've got some folks, some folks already turned out. Give me a little comment. And make sure we can hear the audio since we have had some recurring issues with audio. Let's get some some comments. From say hi I, WanNa hear WHO's out there and make sure we're we're coming across. So. We'll get rolling in just a moment here. More false signals starting to come in. China and know you're all excited. I'm excited to. Guests here in just a moment but. Just. Make sure let me know you can hear me. Thumbs up thumbs up. Eight. Huge on grade. Their thumbs up. All right gay. High suggestion. Thank you for being on I'm glad that y'all ain't melting. This cave coming in from Lincoln live I'm so glad that we just got that sort of today. So it's exciting that got a new channel added to the livestream. All Right Mark Burnett says, he's tuning in. Wisconsin we've got we're everywhere right now Kristie clean I'm that we're going to go ahead and get started then. I guess hear me and sounds coming through and we're going to go. So, pull. Notes here. I know that you are there because the moment that announcement went out about today's guest there was so much joy so much excitement and everybody was re tweeting and sharing like crazy. So I knew you all are excited here on Dr Cynthia the Mother Noble who is an associate professor at the University of California at Los Angeles Ucla as better known as in the Department of Information Studies where she serves as the CO director of Ucla Center for critical Internet inquiry. She's the author of the bestselling book on racist and sexist Algorithm bias bias in commercial search engines, algorithms of oppression how search engines reinforce racism. That's from Nyu press and me have says the with us right now. You're on. Thank you so much for being here hiking. It's so great to see you. I'm so happy to be here. Wow. It's such a really. Fun thing everybody got really excited. I, think it's just everybody knows that these are important conversations and then of course they have people you know who I am able to bring some bolts into the conversation. In, these last few weeks who are leading this conversation truly and you have been leading this conversation you came out with this book. What is it a couple of years ago now right? Tell me. What was it two thousand eighteen? Yeah Yeah But You know it has been. It was a work in progress for a long time that. must've been visit you even say. You were tracking these issues for a few years. And so it's one of the I I think that comes to mind for people when they think about Algorithm bias. So that's really cool. was that has that been like for you in your own life since you wrote sort of the best selling category fighting book on a topic with that done for you in your in your life and your work. It's really been shocking to be honest because. I was writing the dissertation which eventually aversion a Bachelorette into this book. There was very little agreement in the world or with me that technologies could be racist and sexist I mean there were people like. Wendy Chun who is here of mine she said Simon Fraser University who were writing about the implications of software and. There were like a handful of women of color really he Lisa Nakimora. And Everett kind of talking about all these different cultural dimensions of technology. But when when it got to you talking about that the code could, in fact, be implicated in structuring racism and sexism. There was really very little agreement that that was even plausible, and so it's it's strange to go from. writing about it a decade ago in you know in the face of no agreement and really having a hard time getting people. Be In a conversation with me about that too. Now you know I mean I'm at the beauty shop and I meet somebody and they asked me what I work on and I say I you know I do I studied in research racist and sexist Algorithm Bias and discrimination and they're like, Oh yeah let me tell you about those. It. So. Now it's really it's joyous to know that. There are a lot of people who want to have this conversation now and I'm really grateful because there's the implications of of what's happening is so dangerous in it's so important that many many many people need to be thinking about and talking about it. Everyone who works in technology, but beyond technology to because we're all affected by it. Out Me Yeah. So what have you seen change in the industry since then since two thousand, eighteen year book comes out. Literally. The conversations changing you help change that conversation so now. How do you feel like that discourse exists it? What's changed about that? Well. This is the interesting part that I think. The conversation has become more mainstream in the tech sector. Let's say and also maybe a little bit more in academia, which is, of course, tied to the sector. But I'm noticing that. The real. Critique of the implications of the work is getting kind of defamed in de politicized, and so how you see that is that people are talk instead of talking about algorithm discrimination or oppression which kinds of words I use people are talking about things like bias. And I think one of the things that that does is it really? You know it neutralizes the power of the critique by kind of devolving it into a set of arguments that everybody is biased everything is biased. and. That's not helpful when we're talking about the implications of life or death technologies and also. These things are structural. They're not just. Keno living up to individual level of how a coder thanks right or our programming team thinks or how an engineering team is oriented and I think that is one of the things that's really changed in the last ten years is that now? People talk about Ai Ethics but they wanNA talk about it. I think sometimes a very thin register and So, we have a lot of work to do. This is like many many kinds of movements in the world where You know you're trying to argue about. How health disparities impact women differently and more powerful how women are more likely to be let's say Victims of. Cancer, reproductive cancers, and then next thing you know like a pink ribbon is on an ice bottle and you're like, that's that's actually not what we're. Trying to talk about. You. So I think that's the thing to be watching for right now is the way in which these conversations are increasingly being de-politicize. Insight. Had A journey yourself getting to this level of awareness rate came from advertising and to come into academia and to be so fully entrenched aware of what's going on within that space? How did you make that transition? You get from where you were working in that advertising role to where you're on the front lines of making sure that people recognize the weaponization and the the oppression happening there. Yet will you know when I was an Undergrad I studied sociology and I was really into kind of social sciences and humanities I did theater theater nerd to you and we're GONNA. Needed friends. I'm like I. Tell all my secrets now. Okay. So I understood the power of things like art. And also statistics two stories. And I was I went into. Corporate. America really idealistic about the kind of change. I. Felt that people who were activists and. Really, like coming out of the fields of ethnic studies, women's studies were the people who really make the difference in corporate America and I was motivated in oriented that way and. You know. Yeah Corporate. America can really bill your knife. You know if you aren't careful and so by the time I was leaving the of course I was I had been on the Internet since probably I don't know eighty nine and I was seeing all the changes that were happening inside the industry and when I went back to school, which is where I really felt like I belonged in kind of the place I've always felt that home. I just saw what a disconnect there is between how people are making in corporate America and how products services come to market, and how academia is sometimes lacking woefully behind in in an assessment, and so that's kind of it was just like I dunno two worlds kind of colliding and I felt like an academia the have the space to interrogate and maybe make a difference about some of the things I was seeing in a way that I felt I, couldn't do when I was in my corporate job. Interesting. Because you are able to bring. Such a truth telling. Clarity to the work that you're doing where you can cut through and say, this is not just a search engine this is not disallow. It is an advertising platform and that's fundamentally what's what's happening on the underlying the complications of the matter and that seems like that's part of what makes your worse. So potent that you have that active. Yeah. Well, you know there were so many people who influenced me when I'm in graduate school that I was reading mean I read this book you know as the Google Association of everything really had a huge impact on me because I felt like he was writing what was happening what I was witnessing and of course his you know his new book, Antisocial Media You know I. Felt like there were people who were writing I mean frank, pesce qualley. There were a lot of men quite frankly who were writing in ways that touched me and yet I felt that there was this dimension of race and gender that was kind of missing or you know the way in which scholars sometimes right in a universal kind of paradigm about you know what happens to society. But of course, my own life living in society you know I know that there are many worlds that are very different many realities that are different. I. Occupy Different worlds and realities from from. People who aren't black people who aren't women and? So that was the part I thought I could contribute could have dialogue with all of these other. Brilliant people who laid the groundwork but I think you know. Again. Sometimes. And people of Color when we're pushing a boulder up a mountain, which is what it feels like. You know you're not sure if that boulders going to roll back on you and crush you or if you're actually going to get it over and kind of you know. Get some like momentum and velocity, and so I'm really grateful that I could kind of get this conversation up over the mountain. Yeah I think a lot of people to first of all Nicole Rats will says, Nice shot to see. So, yea. Everybody's appreciating that I question from Dr Sin. Brown. Who says when you're teaching on this topic what activities resonate most with your students and audience Well. That's a great question. Okay. So On a basic level around search, I'll often have my students do their own searches on Google and other large commercial Search. Engines and I'll ask them to look for identities that matter to them that are kind of like either their own identities or identities care about. And it's interesting to see the kinds of searches they do said the I go to these searches come back next class session we're going to discuss everybody's going to get a chance to talk about what they found in what it means to them, and you know for some people they you know I'll never forget what I was teaching at the University of Illinois at our banished campaign I had. A. Disproportionately high number of white women in predominantly white sororities and I think almost all of them had done a search on sorority girl and were pissed. So where I don't think. Necessarily that like searches on Black Girls Latino roles and Asian girls that would surface porn. At in those years. Meant that much to them or the they couldn't be there was sympathetic but not impact when they looked for their own identity they were disgusted sale. You know often it's just those kinds of. Experiences that are really helpful to help students. Feel the impact of the work that you're talking about. But you know I also do things like I teach my students a lot about museums and libraries I'll have them go look for the same. People and communities that they care about in the library. Many of my students believe it or not have never even walked the stats in a major research library. So they go do that and this is also a place where they see the subjectivity of knowledge where they start to realize. Oh, you know I was looking up like My sexuality and it was in Allah like in a cluster of books about sexual deviance and I'm feeling that right Right, and so then they start to see that knowledge is subjective at its political and it's meaningful and this destabilizes their trust in just like getting an answer point zero three seconds. To created as an experience for people where they can truly dimensional is and create them but the that they may not have been able to connect with. Otherwise feeling, I it's my experience. Told me if it's yours that once you kind of once you can connect that embassy. It stays with you and you can you can extend it in different ways and ways that you may not have been able to before. I think. So you know I. I have colleagues say to me once you know if you can just like touch one student in a class that an inspire them to like me go on to graduate school or to really care about the things you're teaching them about. That's you know like you've done your job and I think more than one. Return Greater Than One. Be met by. But I definitely see that. Getting to know your students is a great way to then pull in resources that are relevant to them. So I always try to know all the majors, for example that are represented in my class and I will adjust the readings schedule right after the first day of class to. Start to match up with things that they care about so that they can see like oh you. Wanted to cognitive science. Why don't you take a look at these things that are always going to bring them back to a critical interrogation of their own work and that things they care now but also be systems of of control surveillance power in our society because in many ways, those things are going to have a huge impact on their work and on their own personal lives and I feel they have to leave the university knowledgeable about that. We talked about this a couple times on this show before about you can almost matrix out all the different facets of life and then put it alone technology and say you need to know about how technology is going to impact economics across different sectors of different segments of society need to know how it's going to impact politics across different segments of society. So it's it's brilliant to take people's majors and what they already declared an interest in say now, here's how this is going to. Play, out or allow them to do this every about how incident play out in their bill. That's right. I mean I always, for example, with with their final papers in my class, ask them to take up the readings that we've looked at and the kind of critical thinking skills that I've taught them about this this domain and apply it to something that's in their fields of steadier. Their expertise set the computer science students and the engineering students get to write about things they care about. But interrogate them differently in a way that I know they're not doing in their computer science courses. I know hopefully, they will though I mean that's the change that you know your work and other folks in the states that are creating that momentum that that kind of conversation we'll be part of the technology. Majors the computer science majors all that. Well you know what the humanities and social sciences do is they keep you as really great vocabulary for talking about the things you care about, and for you know looking at them closely having a close reading really being able to articulate and story tell what matters in. The moment writer on the project and I feel like students at at and people not just people in the university but all of us need to be able to better story tall. Why Things. Work and why things don't work so that we can influence and persuade each other to to move in directions that are. Better better better for for everyone. Just for a small sector and That's hard work but I You know I feel really lucky to get to try to do that kind of work. And so. I think that's the most powerful work. You know one thing I wanted to ask you. When you wrote the book and in the time that you were doing the research on it, it seems like we were mostly concentrating on algorithms online and the experience of being a browser or whatever it and typing in a search query back of course, now, we know that all our experiences are so much more hybridize. So I wonder, are you doing Newbie site looks at that Inner Integrated States and how? Bias in the Russian that comes into those through those algorithms, affecting people in their everyday lives. Yes and I really appreciate you bringing that out. When I was writing out rhythms of repression, it was at the same time Kathy. The was writing her book mass destruction and I met her at this. Convening that Meredith which occur. Kate Crawford did that was in partnership with the White House? This was during the Obama Administration. And you know she was talking about how algorithms in ai are so deeply embedded in banking and finance in all kinds of. Predictive technologies and I was like. Tail and so now we both of us are books were about come out I. Think hers came out a few months before mine and. Wow the landscape is changed so much I mean now there are so many more people writing brilliant books that. Are Amazing I. Think of Rehab Benjamin's you know new book race after technology that is so beautifully accessible and. And people are studying and Virginia eubanks. This work on social welfare welfare systems. So yeah, there's no shortage of predictive analytics that are working across every sector of our society and. From the time that algorithms of repression came out. Until now that the speed. By which that has happened has been A. Remarkable. A step astounding. So I'm thinking about I think people are doing really good jobs with that at the Center for critical Internet inquiry at Ucla? I'm I've been looking at things like how the tech sector. UNDERMINES DEMOCRACY BY. Like not paying taxes by pulling the cream of the crop of the best students in the country into their projects, how it abuses workers on. The how it unleashes products on society with no oversight by any one. Other than. Themselves and and what the implications of that will be long term. So those are kind of things that I'm working on writing about right now see you just had a big announcement today really to work there. So we did. So we are really grateful we've been working with Julia Powell's Doctor Julia Powell's and Bianca Wylie who are. At, the Mid Refoundation who have Established a global network of critical scholars who are kind of taking on big tax or the implications a big tax let's say. And we're. So at UCLA, we are going to be one of the nodes in the network and we were just gifted two point nine, million dollars to over five years. Tuesday on deb is initiative, and one of the things we'll be doing is working on policy at around these kinds of things that I'm talking about but also culture culture making at counterculture making activities because we feel like. The sector has really. Created a culture that fetish is, is itself right and? We'd like to use you know other ways and other kind of cultural takes hot takes on what on what the implications of these projects are so. I hope that people are interested in this will go to our site at C. to it DOT UCLA DOT EDU subscribe to our mailing lists, follow us on twitter and just be in conversation with us because we really want to you you culture jamming and and policy jamming kinds of work and I think it's GonNa be a very experimental and exciting time to be working on these things for sure and congratulations by the way have a Again. POPs up to say awesome congratulations and. Thank you for sharing your congratulations Dr. Sin I. Yeah. I noticed that your agenda as stated on the site is so tackled lawlessness right empower workers and reimagined tack and those are three. Declarations of what you plan to focus on. Yeah. I mean my focus in all of that is I'm thinking about things like the Wallace nece attack. In again couldn't tax evasion. Undermining democracy not just in the United States. But in many modern democracies around the world, what does it sector Oh back to the public? In terms of repair. And Restoration and so I'll be working on things like restoration and reparations and naturally. And again, I will put it like this paradigm. And kind of where I'm reading right now there was a time when people couldn't imagine the American economy without big hotton. And the Labor Relations of enslaved Africans and of. Occupation of indigenous landscape that was. And it was. No one could imagine beyond dead but there was a small group of people who were abolitionists and I certainly probably would characterize myself as A. I fancy myself attack abolitionist in. It in that, you know there's just a small group of people who are always saying like this. The morality of this isn't right the immorality we'd have to re imagine. The American economy and you know I I've been laughing. You know I've been telling the story that I'm sure my when my mom was delivering the in the hospital in Fresno where he was born. had like a cigarette hanging from his mouth you know I mean there's no question that you know. Just, all about that and in the eighties and and then we had a paradigm shift about big tobacco. And the people who had been doing the the activists work and the researchers who've been saying big tobacco as a public health creating a public health crisis. We can't afford this. It's too extractive. We're paying too high a price. They shifted the paradigm and you know my students now they can't imagine that people were like chain smoking in hospitals. Right you know all kinds of places. So I think about big tech you know in that model that how could we look at other historical moments and take a longer view on this era that we're in and maybe reimagined something far less harmful and maybe even helpful. Question from is she says I Ora Laura. I'm curious. Do you think that predictive analytics can be used ethically emphasis? I can our company has shied away from using them, but it can make it challenging to compete with companies that do use them heavily. This is the challenge with predictive analytics. Okay. Of all all technologies and systems that rely upon classification and categorization systems, and this to me I mean, this is where my library science nerd them is really. Has Me kind of anchored to the fact that All Forms of classification and categorization. Have Implications. So the question is, what are the implications of the kinds of classification systems that you're using in order to make your predictive analytics? Most of the ways in which the technology is oriented is really around like binary classification systems. Binary code and that it already. Is a problem certainly a problem around gender it's a problem around. Race at the things that these kinds of classification systems do you to ratify. UTAH. Power Imbalances exploitation are very important. So I think the question is, is it possible to make classification systems that are not harmful and that is actually Probably a more important question we have to ask before we can get to the deployment of the predictive analytic. Question there. So I've said for years is my favorite book title is Cops, Women Fire and dangerous things what categories reveal about the mind and taxonomy are not neutral. There's nothing neutral about any kind of categorization or classification. You can ever do. You're imposing some sort of opinion tribesmen whatever into the categorization. So yeah, that's an important point to make. That's it and you're also creating social structure through those categories, and what we know is that those categories have always existed at least in a Western context as higher article. So if you're categorization system puts you know in has you have a racial crap classification system like we have the United States and many other parts of the world where white is the highest valued and most. Resource and most powerful and black is the antithesis of that and the binary and everything in between is vying for its relationship to power or powerlessness. That those systems become real. said the question is How do we create systems that aren't hierarchical and where power is not distributed along those lines of classification or categorization, and we have not solved that. Instead we are reinforcing those systems of power over and over and over again. So I know a lot of companies want to try to do something about this within their own systems or at least there's lip service given to wanting to try to do something about the bias and the crash that happens with the new system. But I I saw that in one thousand, nine, hundred according to the artificial intelligence index report put out by the Stanford University's Human Saturday eye institute said only nineteen percent of large companies. Surveys said their organizations are taking steps to. Mitigate risks associated with the explain ability their algorithms and thirteen percent are mitigating risk faculty and fairness other bias and discrimination. Clearly even if there's a lot of lip service to it, there is a lot of accent and I wonder if you have a concrete steps were recommendations that you're able to offer ashby in the dozen typically offer concrete steps into corporations I wonder if you have recommendations for for companies that want to do some mitigation and make sure that they're taking steps. Yeah I, it's it's difficult because the algorithms and the and the predictive analytics that are coming out of industry are optimized for profit. So that's one of the challenges here is that. Let's say capitalism and. Multiracial democracy might be at odds with one another. So we have to figure out. The degree to which industry feels It must be responsible for in which it's shaping our societies and we haven't done so well there. So I think companies are serious about this than they also have to be serious about the wool that their companies are playing in the world. Should. It be profit at all costs When is enough enough? When it's being profitable enough enough and I think that of course, there are many great scholars out here I think for example of a A. Of Scholars. That I work with out of nyu. called. Center. For critical. Race, in digital studies and you can find us. With the kind of simple query on nyu. Center for critical race. Awesome this out and digital studies we have a of readings there. Where you can get educated people who work in industry and tech leaders can get deeply educated about the implications of their work. At Sea to it on our resource page, we also have fifteen plus books at the intersection of rates technology that we think people in the in variety of industries should be reading of I. Know there. Since that we junaid than you know in this moment where we're calling for. Justice for George Floyd and Brianna. Taylor and. Organizing. In, this new civil rights you know extended let's say civil rights movement. At black lives matter that many tech companies in particular but also other companies financial tack and others are reaching out to scholars and bringing us in and asking us to educate them. So I think you know it takes that and it also takes a real. You know a a longer term concerted effort to figure out. You know the ethical framework. That a company is is working in an dumb, those are complicated long-term conversations? It makes me think makes me wonder how much of the underlying issues and the reluctance to mitigate those issues have to do with either incentives or the transparency that requires or the equity that isn't shared at the table. As opposed to say the technical difficulty that it would take to go through to to clean up that system. Yeah I think it's both I mean I think the fact that we have no meaningful regulatory framework right now in the United States is a huge issue because we know for example, that most companies that have historically been implicated in. A discrimination. All the way to the technical level, which I would say would be by banking finance insurance right as like right right off the bat. Those companies, those industries didn't really start to address redlining in their products and services until it was against the law. So we know we have to have more than just kind of the Fox guarding the Hen House we need regulators to get serious about the discriminatory effects of many of these technologies that will be one way that companies will be forced to comply with the law. I mean facebook. Itself never it you know we know that they hadn't even considered things like EEOC or Civil Rights Act, or housing discrimination law in their own products and services, and it wasn't until. Congress got serious about calling them to the carpet or the federal trade. Commission got serious about that that they. Started to examine their products at technical level, and of course, at a technical level, the challenge now is that for the big tech companies they. They don't know how to fix some of these problems They think are maybe let's say they. Profess that they will solve these things with ai that they will kind of automate the fixes but we know that in fact there automation are human beings and this is where the work of people like my colleague and Collaborator Sarah Roberts and her work on you know helping us understand this these armies of content moderators. For example, around the world, it's human beings who are implementing these decisions and. The real policy decisions are getting made by the lowest paid most vulnerable workers who touch content that might be discriminatory. These cannot be necessarily at a technical level and This is where I think. We'll have to figure out are these companies in fact just too big. To, fix their the problems of their own making. This conversation we got into the last few episodes too about the human moderators, the work that Casey Newton and other investigative journalists have done in exposing some of the conditions that some of the facebook moderators work in for example, but it seems like it is going to be a real thorny thing to try to figure out how to create the right kinds of regulations or what, what, what college of is going to be about up pieces of the company's. Going to be about creating the right incentives and disincentives how much is going to be about requiring the right kinds of. Transparency in the algorithms. The. And and more and. More than what I'm thinking. Yeah I mean the challenge here? Is that really in the in the social media space in the search space? You know we're talking about ending the hardware. I would say space we're talking about monopolies and So the very You know ground upon which Internet based companies came to the fore was in the wake of breaking up big telecom monopolies. Right and so I, think it's interesting now that. You know the Internet based. Companies are in fact monopolies on this means that Consumers have very little choice. It's very difficult to have a harms address or redress because we don't have a legislative apparatus that is literate enough quite frankly even understand what these technologies are. With their harms sorry and I think that you know that could change. So we have a lot of work to do You not only help the public understand what's at stake but when when. Social media companies and big tech companies like goals. A Youtube said that they're not media companies and try to skirt responsibility for the content that Mussa their platforms were you know in dangerous territory because They indeed are responsible for the content that moves through their platforms and. Much of their content I mean one of the most interesting we can see right now is the flood of disinformation that's moving through these platforms as we. rapidly. Pummeled toward the presidential election and all the down ballot elections and. A lot is at stake if we are serious about looking at this sector. Advising groups and other countries as well as they kind of colonel towards regulations I know Brazil has been. Dancing around different kinds of regulations, and they're having a lot of the same issues around misinformation coming up on on various political elections that are critical to to those countries so. He comment from. Bruce salaries crazy thing that yesterday's disruptors today's monopolies. That's exactly right. Point of the. Yes that situation in it's when I think about Brazil and the United States and other places around the world you know the UK. And the disruption to kind of the way democracy works and in all of our countries You know people thought that when the Cambridge Analytica. I mean I wouldn't even call it a scandal because it's just like the the business operations of Cambridge Analytica when that came to the fore people were eating like stunned and I thought I remember I reading about Cambridge Janika. Before it became a big story and I remember what kind of watching them and It's like the whole Internet is Cambridge Analytica. Internet is brokering and selling and making data profiles about us and micro targeting us. And making digital profiles about us that will never know about will never be able to see that we can't intervene upon and that are. Making again, opportunities and foreclosing others, and this is where you know Shana Zubov's book. The age of surveillance capitalism is so important. You know I always thought if my that my book might be a book that you shouldn't read at night before you go to bed because it might give you nightmares but then I mentioned Sean Seanez bike and I was like well, will well, well that. You know again, the thing that I would add to you her critiques about how these predictive technologies are so. Opaque. An embedded in every move all the way down to lake you know our ovulation. Tracking ovulation chat tracking you know every pimple I dunno tracking every question you answer right or wrong in the learning management system when you're nine years old in the fourth grade and what those will amount to is really really frightening but then when you overlay to me The racial is engendered power systems in our society, and you know then that this will have. Far More severe consequence for people who are already poor were already marginalized. leaving. You know under a you know a threat of civil and human rights just by virtue of who they are in the world Then I, think you know to me there's nothing more interesting to talk about and to to work on and and of course, this includes working with artists and people like you and smart people just to have these conversations I mean these are the kinds of conversations everybody should be able to have at the dinner table. Because they really affect all of us You know imagine what it's like for your your four year old is life has been documented on the web in every possible way, and you know that you're unknowingly creating digital profile for that child. Imagine what it's like that. You will inherit the digital legacy of your family members and that will affect your ability to get a mortgage or go to college or or for. You want to do in the world because somebody in your social network said something against the government, and of course, we already see these things happening. So it's not the DYSTOPIA and future just talking about right now. Yeah. Yeah. What's really important is that you have brought clear language to it because as you say. It's the sort of you have the to talk about things like bias or you have the opportunity to talk about them in terms that actually call out as oppression and what I fear is that the what it takes to really understand what happens at that whole the whole Internet is Cambridge analytic level. Is that you have to be able to think about medicine systems upon medicine systems and understand not just how you know the Internet is connected and how data collection and monetization systems happened. But obviously, of course, underneath the societal structures, systemic inequities and everything that happens at. System level and so to have those kinds of conversations in an articulate discipline way you need to call them out as the truth they are and I think. Using words like oppression certainly, how bring that clarity into it? Yeah I really agree that. All of these are interlocking systems of oppression and this is one of the reasons why I think people who are like intersectional. Intersection analogy as theory to understand or feminism black feminism are critical race. You know that's what we study and write about our interlocking systems of oppression and it's very important that we have. Clear vocabulary words. So we all know what we're talking about. and. Of course, our words are in dialogue with other people's words like technology is Liberty Tori or that it engenders more freedom or more connected I. Mean. It was astounding to watch Mark Zuckerberg in the antitrust hearings A. Couple of weeks ago where while the senator this the members are saying you. Could you talk to us about the way in which your products of collapsed democracy and the answer is like more connectivity? To Talk to us about you know. Discrimination that happens on your platform and the ways in which people have been threatened with genocide through your your project and he's like we're connecting more people. So it's like the discourse that's coming out of these spaces or really really powerful and amplified so much. More powerfully than you know what I'm saying. So I think we have to be really clear get our vocabulary words straight as. And it also seems like. When you start evaluating discussions around things like how are we going to tackle the issue of content moderation and you talk about human content moderators but then you think about when they're really are a is lucians which you know mostly there are not yet but but as their start to be more and more machine learning solutions deployed against this, I, worry about that too. I worry about the encoding of. Biases there and what's going to happen when? Using Ganz, for example, to to try to simulate bad behavior as just came out a few weeks ago that is doing to try to create. Some rules that they're able to process against which in theory sounds great. I'm one level of abstraction, and then when you think about, what are you really codifying? What are you bringing into scale? That's what I worry about. So yeah, this these systems upon systems. Yeah. Yeah I mean you're right to worry about that because at the level right now of a business operation used, you know across many of these platforms youtube. kind of many many different major platforms. The human beings can't get it right. So, if you already have. You know a corpus of decisions that have been made by moderators and those have not been good decisions. Well, those are also the decisions of the actions that that are informing your machine learning model. So, of course, we know and this one of the things I really try to impress. Makes his point in, in my book is If you are A. Part of it oppressed class. Let's say you're black in America. But. You're only thirteen percent of the population. You actually will never be able to impact the algorithm even if all thirteen percent of the population of the black population was in agreement, which we are not about adjudicating harm racist propaganda disinformation, this kind of thing still. Can't even impact the broader. Coal. So uneasiness like so-called democratic methods are really unfair. So we have to be more complex about what we're talking about and I'll tell you the thing that's been interesting about watching countries like Germany and France as they're working through regulating things like hate speech or propaganda at all. These big platforms is that they have a much closer relationship in history to the Holocaust and understanding, for example, the role that anti Semitic anti-gay anti-black propaganda played in. The relationship like the legitimation of cost right in the in the dulling of the senses of the public that to the point that when people would stand on train platforms going to work in in. Germany. Jewish people would be being loaded onto a train cars to be sent to concentration camps while other Germans were getting on train cars and going to work. Imagine that level of desensitization that would have to happen and that happens through fascist propaganda racist anti-semitic, these of violent subtle forms of of discourse in a society, and that's what's happening in these platforms and it's being fully normalized, and of course, it's having a tremendous impact was just going to say it's the normalization of vision. You just hit it there at the end. Yeah. It's it's having that just be surrounding all time and it'd be normalized into can anybody have the stamina to keep up with fighting against that level of disinformation misinformation? So. It's all. That's all very weak and I know we are working very hard to try to keep the worst from happening. But what do you think that we have to be optimistic about what? What are you look at in this space and what makes you feel? Well I feel. So hopeful because I. You. Know part of a community of people in the United States who has. You know gone from a Lynching public lynchings you know being chattel slavery not being considered. To at least a a greater possibility for our humanity to be realized, and so that is always for me. So in the forefront of my own lived experience in my family experience, and so how can I not be hopeful because I feel like black people and Black Women in particular had been at the forefront of so many important movements for justice in this world and I feel really grateful I was born into you this package even though it's also been difficult and. And that makes me feel I feel hopeful that there has been hope for hundreds of years in this country. To make change into realize change, and that's the kind of legacy that I feel like my work is in or tradition that my work is in and so how can again I I feel? Grateful and and. Open Heart Ed Diets The. World's will be better that it can't be better that it has already become better in some ways and I also knew that these struggles are not on static. It's not like you when you're civil rights and you keep them forever You know African Americans had. Tremendous civil rights the the moment in our history where we had the most rights was the period following reconstruction after the civil war. A lot of people don't even realize that and then those rights were rolled back through Jim Crow. Laws and night night writers and the clan and terrors terrorizing our communities and burning down our cities and our baking institutions and stealing our wealth, and we had another civil rights movement in the nineteen sixties. And we're undergoing another civil rights movement right now after the robots of the civil rights that's happened divert quite frankly the last four years most intensively so. You. We should never take our rights for granted. And I think we should read and learn from history, and that is a source of strength and power for all of us. This beautiful I think it's also such an important point that you made earlier that. Progress and freedom for everyone is not going to happen as a result of. Majority rules like the people who need the power because they. Aren't going to necessarily be able to take that by power needs to be something that everyone kind of a week and too, and there's An. Evolution of we evolved to our higher selves that we think about. Our rules in society and culture. In in that more involved way and. bring up a comment that just got posted never stopped talking. So the never ever please and thank you. Thank you. It's really hard and I'm really grateful that I say every people don't even realize every little tweet at me and every nice thing is very encouraging because. You know you never know people's private struggles with their. You know the interior of their life is like and I will tell you that there is a time when I was. So painfully powerfully insecure to speak my thoughts and it's really been. A Journey and I'll just say that anybody who's ever felt. Small should try to let that go and just speak your heart because. That's that's what we need in the world's and I'm really glad that you know hugs by like a thousand hugs and comments and encouragements really as to what has gotten you here. Thank you so much for that transparency in that. Kind Open heartedness to. We're getting such love from the comments by the way Dr says, this is such a necessary conversation can't. Share with Belmont students and to that end, she also asked earlier. Can recommend websites for educators to use to teach other rhythms of bias and oppression. I use the digital divide filter bubble and facial recognition resources greatly appreciated. So if you think some right now that you can share, that'd be great. You just want to send me some include that in show notes that would be awesome to anything come to mind redway. So. We have some syllabi and at the same critical recent digital studies website for at Nyu and I think the URL is critical race intial studies, dot com, and. And there are some great syllabi there at of course, people have been organizing many syllabi through twitter. And so I would say. We also have resources up on our resource page at C. TO ICU DOT UCLA, Dot Edu. And will keep populating that in the weeks and months to come because. It's fun to teach students these things it says seem like doom and gloom, but it really isn't because with knowledge comes power and people do feel empowered when they know more I, tell my students I just tried I want you to be the most interesting person at a cocktail party I. Know You're eighteen you're not at cocktail parties yet, but give it a minute You know you need to know things and to be an interesting person, and so I would say. Those places are good places to look for articles and books and videos and things that we think. Are Important. I talked about this too. It's not necessarily that being I talk about being an optimist and it's not that being an optimist means you don't acknowledge the bad things that happen or can happen are happening right and I think it's really important to the fully realistic and conscious of everything that's happening. But the work of optimism is to recognize the good that can happen and then steer our work in that direction and I'd be like there's no one who does that more clearly with more eyes wide open goodness than than you and I appreciate so much you coming on and talking to us on the show. Thank you. Happy to be here anytime I really appreciate the conversation it I'm going to have a great day. Can You let us? Know where they can find more about your programs. I didn't give him a few euros writing Where can they find you work? Yeah. You can find me I like to hang out on the Internet at Safia Noble on twitter. where I always try to reach, we'd and send out good things that I think are happening. If you catch me on a late night, tip might be being a little bit of a smart mouth. So just just leave it and I'm on Instagram Safia Diet Noble Dot PhD, and I try to impose some things there to and share out Adam Of course, you can always email me center staff at UCLA DOT EDU and. I wait. Go to our twitter because I could be lying about that. That's a brand. Dot Ucla, DOT EDU is the center. Hit on Taqtaz and you'll get ready to be. Thank you again. Thank you so much. Thanks to all of you for tuning in and thanks to our listeners out there high cast when that comes out. Suburbia have a beautiful rest of the day. We're GONNA just can't thank you, everyone.

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Rob Reiner just predicted how Trumps corrupt and criminal presidency will end

The Dworkin Report

17:22 min | 2 years ago

Rob Reiner just predicted how Trumps corrupt and criminal presidency will end

"You're listening to rob. Reiner needs no introduction he's been acting directing and producing award winning television and movies for decades. It says the Twenty Sixteen Election we put a nonprofit inducting a serious recent an expose of trump's Russian ties. That's why we wanted to get rubs tape. What's going to happen in twenty nineteen? He gave it to US describing how he sees the trump presidency ending being describing the twenty G._o._p.. Senators who will be key if they still value country over party. Here's my interview with Rob Reiner. I'm here with Rob Reiner. Who's WHO's award-winning career and entertainment began with an acting alongside an infamous New Yorker Norman leaders all in the family where he played the voice of reason a role he now occupies in American politics today but only playing himself rob? Thank thank you so much for joining me on the DWORKIN report today. How are you thanks for having me? I'm good thanks before I ask your opinion on the current state of dysfunction in the White House. I'd like if you could tell our listeners a little bit about the committee to investigate Russia which is at investigate Russia dot org. What's your role with the organization and whatever its goals well? I mean we started it <hes> right after the election <hes> we were very concerned at the time on that and business now all being born out that the Russians had played a very big part in <hes> in stealing our election and had worked closely with the trump campaign in order to affect you wait a fraudulent you know acquisition acquisition of the presidency and we wanted to look into this and to see how this happened and I put together a group of at the time it was bipartisan. We had a number of Republicans on the on the committee <hes> <hes> they have since all kind of become anti trump people because <hes> it is become so very clear that <hes> trump has really <hes> turned his back on on American <hes> values and ideas and has <hes> you know as selfishly and <hes> you know for monetary reasons <hes> put himself in with <hes> with Putin and and Russian oligarchs and and and the Saudis <hes> so we we we wanted to try to expose this and keep people abreast of what was going on because it's very complicated I mean people don't quite understand <hes> you know how all these connections work and <hes> you you know Robert. Mueller is involved in a in a very very complicated counter-espionage investigation and these things normally take anywhere from five to ten years to figure out and he is at breakneck breakneck speed and in putting these pieces together and connecting all these dots and oddly enough the dots have been kind of connected in in plain sight to the American public and yet for some reason I think if it was done undeclared destined way and we were uncovering all this <hes> you know these clandestine connections we go oh my God what a scandal but we're looking right in the face of the greatest scandal in American political history and and so we wanted to be able to you know allow the public to understand a what actually was happening here in America and there was <hes> I believe he was yesterday <hes> representative Rashida to leave <hes> Ed Stephen candidate promised to impeach trump saying we need to impeach the mother effort <hes>. What are your feelings about impeachment regarding from well I mean he here's the thing I mean you know trump right now where he? Sits just in a prima fashion we look at <hes>. There's way more there to impeach him than ever. was there to impeach Nixon or or Clinton so we know that you know if that's the direction we Wanna go. It's all there. Also you know He. He's indictable. I mean he's committed crimes. It's already out there. We know the crimes committed and you know there's this constitutional question is whether or not a the president can be indicted now. Most of you know the constitutional scholars that I've talked to say there's no question that the president can be indicted now. The only question is whether or not Robert Muller would attempt to when indict him and I don't think he will because you know he's very pleased by the book and they're right now. On the books. There are <hes> Justice Department rules and regulations that don't allow that to happen but that doesn't mean it's constitutional solution and Southern District of New York may see it differently but if they decide to go that route then you're going to have to go through <hes> to the Supreme Court determined first of all whether a president sitting president can be indicted if that's the case then <hes> there's no question he he would be indicted and he would be found guilty so that's one thing now as far as impeachment is concerned. That's a political process and like I say right now. <hes> if you who had <hes> right thinking members <hes> you know Republican members of Congress <hes> you know there's well first of all there's no question you get the impeached whether or not you could be <hes> you know thrown out of office is that requires sixty seven senators in the senate and if they were right thinking Republican senators there's no question <hes> he would be thrown out of office <hes> right now though <hes> there <hes> imbed with trump because his is numbers are very high and you know in the right wing <hes> Republican base so <hes> they're not gonNA at this point in time. They're not going to <hes> you know you know. Abandon them however as this year progresses when we see more and more of these crimes revealed I mean we've got seventeen investigations going on now you might see some of these Republican senators particularly the ones who are up for reelection and twenty twenty start to move away way from trump now will there be twenty of them <hes> in order to convict him the Senate. I don't know but impeachment is a political process and like I said there's plenty there to impeach him at this point but you don't WanNa go food political process of impeachment unless you know there's a good possibility that he would be convicted in the Senate and I believe that's you know that's the reason why Nixon <hes> left office because he knew the handwriting was on on Wall not only because he gonNA impeach but he was going to get thrown out of out of office by the Senate so he resigned now. I'm hoping that that can occur with trump that that there will be a point at which he looks at the handwriting on the wall and says you know I've got resign year and so we'll see how this all plays out but there's no question about it. He this is the most corrupt and criminal presidency that we've ever seen and not only corrupt and criminal but yeah he's an APP piece <hes> not qualified and <hes> he's in incredibly stupid. This episode of the WORKM- report is brought to you by resistors like you we aim to keep this show independent independent for as long as we can visit working report dot Com to see how you could how what are the best ways is by hitting that contribute button in the top bright and giving what you can't thanks again for your support. Let's get back to the show. What do you think about the potential of resignation in exchange for a plea deal for him his kids in his company yeah well? I think that's certainly something that that would be considered. I mean that would be the only way. I would think that <hes> that he would agree to to leave office and I think he'd find a lot of progressives very angry at the fact that he doesn't <hes> serve jail time or doesn't <hes> you know doesn't have a his assets. Let's impounded and all that because I mean he has stolen <hes> enormous amounts of money from <hes> you know from you know regular citizens with trump university and with <hes> stiffen contractors and with <hes> abusing doing his foundation for political purposes and paying legal seasonal that so you know there might be a lot of progressive who get very angry <hes> at the idea that there isn't the kind of come up and she'd like like to see but my feeling about it. Is You look at a bigger picture. which is you have to get this guy out of their? This guy is is dangerous to <hes> democracy and to our security around the world. We're we're seeing him when he's definitely in bed with Putin there's no question about that and <hes> we're seeing a American democracy and the hope of democracy for the world of being destroyed by a man who <hes> only thing you know they say it's a malignant narcissist only cares about himself so from that standpoint I think we we really have to get rid of him. So whatever it takes I mean if you have to cut a deal and say goodbye and good luck then I'm happy with that and and you you know he will wear the battle of <hes> someone who has been <hes> demeaned and <hes> you know he will be looked upon the pariah for the for the rest of his life so that that to be might be enough enough punishment event. was there a moment when you know what pushed you over the edge where you're like. I need to speak out against this guy. was there a moment where we realized I need to go all in on this guy. It was early on. I mean you know I I knew <hes> I knew Donald Trump I met him <hes> you know longtime ago and it was it was a fight one of these <hes> heavyweight fights one of his casinos and I got an impression of them right away but you know when you hear things like he pretends to be somebody somebody else when he calls a reporter up and <hes> talks about Donald Trump sexual prowess. I said this guy's insane that that's a that's crazy person that's in that that's not a person that can be the president of the United it states and then on top of it he he you know he steals all this money from people you know their life savings in this fake trump university this is this is a criminal you know this is a crime boss Kinda MCI and I. I've known that early on I mean these are things that that people who don't plus you know the people talk about. He's a great but he's a businessman in the world and had six bankruptcies. There's nothing he's done that succeeded. The only only thing he's been successful out is promoting himself and I you know you gotTa Give Mark Burnett a lot of credit for that because the guy you know made a television show which you know had this guy trump for tend to be a a successful businessman. The guy was a failure. He failed it literally everything he did. Six bankruptcies trump university trump water trump steaks trump airlines. I mean you know one thing after the next <hes> you know father bailed them out all the time so you know this is a failed businessman. This is a liar. This is somebody who was like I say malignant narcissist and and and <hes> his been involved in in the you you know criminal behavior for four years so people who knew him said you know this this. This man can't be president. You know find it. Let him beyond reality show but you know we're talking about America on America's. It's not a reality show. This is the real world you know and you know we have two hundred forty two years of of democracy at stake here with oldest living democracy and and I believe that that is the best. Way To govern and we're seeing that come under attack now so yeah I I've been pretty much clear on who this guy was from the big from the beginning. How do you think this all ends for him? Like what do you think is is the endgame in reality for us. What are we facing here? Are we facing decades of crisis to help fix these problems as caused <hes> you know what's the outcome after this and how do you think this all ends for him well. I I think like I say it's GonNa come down to twenty twenty Republican senators. If we feel in the next year that there's enough out there <hes> for the public to understand how criminal title this <hes> This presidency has been <hes> then you might see the twenty senators <hes> start to turn and if you see that happening then you'll you'll you'll see trump resigning before the <hes> before the twenty twenty election if for some reason those twenty senators don't <hes> don't you know start to turn then you will get rid of him and in twenty twenty I mean if you think the wave was big back. In the mid terms. The wave is GONNA be much bigger to get rid of this guy at the ballot box and twenty twenty so one way or the other he's GonNa be gone and I'm hopeful hoping it sooner rather than later and do you have any new projects. It's in the pipeline. You'd like to share with our listeners well. I'm working on to television things you know to limited series television things one is about the supreme court that's based on Jeffrey Toobin book called the nine and it looks at <hes> how the Supreme Court worse than I think it's kind of you know appropriate these days when we see you know what's happening with the Supreme Court and the other one is about John Kennedy which I'm not really GonNa talk about too much because <hes> it's it's <hes> you know something I'm working on with paramount television and we're in the process of developing that now so those are the things the main things I'm working on now. And what are you looking forward to most in twenty nineteen well and twenty nineteen. I'm hoping that you know the political winds are shifting. Now you know the Democrats now obviously they control the house and you're going to have a lot of ideas of things that they WANNA get accomplished with regards to healthcare and income inequality and <hes> women's rights and gay rights and <hes> you know civil rights and in the <hes> infrastructure. There's a whole bunch of things that the Democrats want to tackle <hes> unfortunately they you know we have a <hes> a a you know Republican. Senate and McConnell is going to try to block as much as he can but but I'm hoping that we see a further erosion of this <hes> criminality that we see in the White House and that hopefully will <hes> spring loose enough senators to start working in a bipartisan way. There's a number of things that can be done. I mean that are you know both sides agree on a bill to <hes> you know to address infrastructure to address <hes> prescription drug costs. I mean these are thinks that both sides of the Allegri on so hopefully there can be some of that but in the meantime we just got to get rid of this President Rob Reiner. Thank you for your patriotism and everything you've done for this country. Thank you for your messaging that you get out. They're using the trump resign hashtag doing other <hes> online organizing in speaking out on T._v.. Radio and everything else you're doing <hes> we couldn't do anything in the resistance really without your voice. You've been so helpful. I can't appreciate you enough and thanks again for taking the time with me today. Thanks for having overly base again to Rob Reiner for being on the show you can follow him on twitter at Rob Reiner R._e._I.. Any our thanks my producer grants during you can follow him on twitter at grant stern visit our website at work report dot Com we are still independent and we're going into our eighty fifth episode. I believe so we're GONNA start to pick it up an accelerated little bit you more episodes more frequent.

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GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 79: Drake Sues, Julie Chen Leaves,Kanye Moves

GSMC Entertainment Podcast

1:08:26 hr | 3 years ago

GSMC Entertainment Podcast Episode 79: Drake Sues, Julie Chen Leaves,Kanye Moves

"Mar cubes, giving a beach close enough. So that space between you and me as lose the way all dance and sway into the music girl, they embody and how you move. And every time you cross my girl Losey Alexa play the country heat playlist. Okay. With Amazon music. A voice is all you need, get tens of millions of songs, download the Amazon music app today, always all the girl, but the day just will be one without your Hollywood Phipps foot Golden State media concepts center, ten podcast, take care of that and all inclusive look of pop culture. Hello. Good people, the planet earth and the known universe. You're listening to Golden State media concepts, entertainment podcast. This should captain Keith and on deck today. The bar lines are Drake, sues one, Julie Chen leaves kind. You moved to Chicago. And so much more. So stick around, we'll get into all of that. So let's get to, let's get it. Roseanne Barr reveals how her character dies on the Connors. Why would you wanna do that? So let's see. Alrighty. Picture of her. Roseanne Barr founding share it with shared what happens to character on her upon this show when it's been off the Connors arrives the next month, the disgraced TV star appeared on Brandon strikers. YouTube show walkaway where she shared her alter ego, succumbs, tragic topical way. Oh yeah, they kill her. She said they have her down opioid overdose. Ouch. But she didn't stop there. The sixty five year actress took the opportunity to take some shots ABC and Disney for our firing after she posted a racist tweet taking aim at about my White House aide, Valerie Jarrett in the spring. It wasn't enough to fire me. They had to so cruelly insult to people who loved the family and that show. She said, there's nothing I can do about it is done. It's over. There's no fight left earlier this month. She spoke in New York about how she's attempting to handle ABC's course correction. I just had to be neutral. Walkaway I did walk away so people can keep their jobs, her former co, star, John. Goodman was the first to hit that her character would be killed off in order for the spinoff to make sense. I guess it'll be mopey and sat because his wife's dead. He told the Sunday Times in August, when asked about his character's frame of mind when the news when the new show debuts in the new interview also said that she suspects neither ABC no, the networks president Channing Dungy ever wanted her show hinting that these circumstances might have ultimate contributed to her exit. Really. Everyone loved your show. Your show was back. You had everything going. They have renewed your show. So why would you say that the problem is is that you said some things that you shouldn't have said and it and it came back to haunt you. It's two thousand eighteen. Social media is real. When we put things out here in the universe. Now they're permanent, they stay. So it's not like a was twenty years ago now that I see her thinking and what happened to me along all along that I wasn't really being conscious of because I was working so hard. No, they probably never wanted my show at all. But what Disney's chairman and CEO Bob eager wanted. He kind of forced ABC's president to take you and I don't think she ever wanted to, and that's clear to me now looking back. Yeah, I don't agree with that. Your show was a welcome surprise. I enjoy it. When I watched an episode or two. People were very happy to have you back. Your show has basically was one of the reasons why Murphy Brown is back on TV. So now I'm not with that. To quote Jay z. We don't believe you need more people. So no, but I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the Connors and see how they do it. The Connors premiers on Tuesday, Tober, sixteenth APM eastern time on ABC. And don't get me wrong. The what Disney president may have encouraged them to pick up the show, but why would you want that show to go to the network? It was ABC show in the first place. So. Sandra, oh, misses out on making history at the Emmys and people are mad. Killing visit show. I can't wait for season two, Sandra, oh, came close to making history at the Emmys the forty seven year old actress missed out on becoming the first woman of Asian descent to win an EMMY in the lead actress category, either comedy or drama at the seventy th primetime EMMY awards Monday night. Oh, ready made history as the first Asian woman to be nominated and in for her still early performance as m I six agent e plastic and BBC America's critically acclaimed series, killing e and yes, folks, killing eve is one of those rare shows that. When I aired each week following the viewership rose. That doesn't happen time. Just saying clar- for excuse me, Claire Foy who was named this. She winner even acknowledged that she was a surprising choice for outstandingly actors in the drama series in care. Very, this wasn't supposed to happen for seven. She took to the stage to Clinton first career EMMY Sandra. Oh, I just love you. And I agree. You wanna go to Claire for paying for playing Queen Elizabeth. Yes, should have got that one, but clarify is actress, but I agree with him. Sandra should've got that award. Killing was amazing fans on social media, took to Twitter to express their feelings on os close any call. Many feeling she was robbed before the metallic has opened up about this nomination, but cautioned piece of people to be patient as progress takes time. She said. She has to even say that two thousand eighteen. I really do. Images are extremely important to culture and being a part of image making. I take a great responsibility, and I'm very grateful for my job to be able to do. So I hope that the wave continues and we see real change. She told. Kevin Frazier from tonight at the Emmys carpet on Monday, but also important to be patient. You know what I mean? Because changes slow and they don't want people to ever give up on it and definitely much to clarify because she felt the same way she know by saying, Sandra, oh, I just love you. She's letting you know, hey, I thought I was. I thought you were going to win. So yeah, she's a good actress as well. They're both amazing actresses. So definitely we can talk about how long it is, but changed us take a long time. So the more that we talk about it, the more that we have opportunities to be in front of an audience to say, hey, we're part of culture too. I think just the better at it, oh, owes near EMMY victory would have been a huge accomplishment for Asian actors in Hollywood as she was the first Asian woman to by the television. Kademi for Lee performance owes would be a cheap owes would be achievement would have come at a crucial moment in your career. Killing eve March first major lead role after South Korean supporting parts. Prior to this year, previously, earned five EMMY nominations in supporting drama actress category for two thousand and five thousand nine for portrayal of data Cristina Yang Graceland me, but never won. She got nominated five times and she didn't win really seriously. She was robbed in. I used to watch grass natty me and she was always one of the best things about that show. She's an amazing actress. She was great on that show. So, yeah. Oh, who is Korean? Canadian was up against formidable competition in the Stanley actress in drama series category, which included last year's winner. Elizabeth moss for the Handmaid's tale for for the crown Tatyana lining for orphaned, black Keri Russell for Americans ever Mitchell. What for Westworld that is some stiff competition I will. I will say that I will grant you that previous actors of Asian descent to win acting Emmys for their performances are few and far between in two thousand ten. The good was Archie Pange AVI whose British India was the first to win, acting EMMY for outstanding, supporting actress and drama series. Two thousand seventeen Rizza man who has British Pakistani was the second to win for the night. The night of the -standingly actor in a limited series or movie category. I met was also the first Asian actor male or female to win an EMMY for lead role. Okay. In the ten episode kill killing eve, oh, plays, eve aboard, desk bound. Am I five officer becomes entrenched in the high stakes world of brilliant psychopath assassin villa now known as Jody Comber in real life, the latest killer she's been ordered to bring down as their mouse game intensifies. Ease obsession with the now which is dangerous proportions. It's it's a character hold special meaning for, oh, who spent most of her film and television career in supporting parts fouling her history, making our nation in July, oh, issued a statement stating expressing her joy. I feel tremendous gratitude enjoy with our nation. I am thrilled for creative Phoebe. Waller bridge is nomination and for the entire cast and crew of killing e. I share this moment with my community. She said PS. I think my mother at this moment actually be satisfied, right. That's moms for you. With the New York Times. Oh, welcome to historic nomination saying in July, we've got to start somewhere and I'm happy to get that ball rolling. Because what I hope happens is that next year and the next year and the next show we will have presence and the presence will grow not only to Asian Americans, you know, from yellow to Brown, but to all our other sisters and brothers back part of that change like. Let's celebrate it as one of just a handful of visible Asian actors working in film and television always candid. When she spoke with entertainment tonight, actually in January about the importance of making sure she played her part is showing that people who looks like her. Are capable of subur- of subverting stereotypes. I feel acutely aware of how important it is an absolutely wanted to be a part of it in the best way possible. Also, while promoting killing eve, the best way possible that I know how to find the most interesting material and to do my best work for it is too important to not care about it or to not try and be out of the box and some sort of way. The central voice of the show is a woman, the Lee characters women, and she continued the people producing women. There's still a lot more to do and diversity in front and behind the camera, but to be actively involved in creating something where I can go and see myself in some way. Okay. Also says she hopes Asian, she hopes to Asia community contains to be proactive about getting their voices stores out to the world out of the Uber, successful crazy, rich Asians, Netflix claim team romance to all the boys. I've loved before John shows equally revered, th really thriller searching and TV's fresh off the boat as she tells it. She feels more comfortable navigating this through creative avenues with colorblind roles, like killing e rather than politically. I think that's great. And I think the success of crazy rich, Asians helps and I will be seeing searching. I'm gonna check that out. So I love good cinema, doesn't matter where it comes from laws. It's good. It's good. That's the whole point. Definitely understanding deeply that it's not enough and to encourage our own community to find his own voice in its own way. That's one thing that I feel we have not found our own footing yet because it has to be from us uniquely us as a lot. And there's lots explore in that because Asians are very, very diverse. Also, having been actively working in this space where there has not been much representation at all and being one of the only visible faces. I feel like this is the only way that it works from the alley located creatively. Any other way just isn't right for me. So the seventieth EMMY awards was hosted by certain allies college asked him alkyl shea, and this past Monday on the seventeenth. So. And before we're done with this podcast, I definitely want to talk about the last film that song because I was supposed to tell you about that was gonna keep you media review on kin, and I gave you wanna crazy as by then talk about Ken k. I n. and that movie my actually have left it theatre or be on his last leg in theaters. Excellent. Phil. So. I will talk about that probably after the break Nicole Kidman opens up about her strong sexuality and the game. She plays with Keith urban. I don't know. Should I talk about this. Can feel comfortable now. Hatton here. All right. So the coke on the cover Marie-Claire. Nice picture. Yeah, Queen the coke, McQueen them hearts. Lily red here is down to a shoulder and she's got her left hand being against the forehead and the right side of her hair, the bangs covering herreid I and you could see her her blue-green add looking at you. It's my picture actually very lovely. The co, Cuban has had a lengthy suburb career and much of that. Do instincts that fifty. One euro actress opposite up in the Tober issue of Marie Marie Claire about the emotions that can occasionally rule her life kitman shares that she and husband Keith urban light to play a game with one another where they asked whether particular artists leads with their head heart or sexuality as for herself. She says she is a pretty even mix, but I'm probably dominated by my heart. She continues if you don't come from feeling place, you just end up with the enormous amount of technique. I have this mind, but that can be overruled if fluctuates too. I have a strong sexuality to huge part of who I am. Am I existence? Okay. Okay. All right. Good to know. Yep. When I'm over here, smiling behind the microphone kit me was first off back to back Golden Globe and EMMY wins for her role in big little lies is Lebanon erection our careers taking lately. We'll talk some more about MS kitman. After this break, the average sedan is built with a steel frame equipped with six airbags. Remember this the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, pedestrians, don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. The average SUV has two blind spots ways between four and six thousand pounds and takes about six seconds to stop. Remember this the next time you're on foot, pay attention. People pedestrians don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. 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She says, I typically I can make statements one of her strongest emotions is that a fear Kibben admits that sometimes she lets her crippling fair consumer. At the same time. I was raised by stoic by still IX. It's a philosophy aware behaving and being in the world which I kind of don't have. She says, if stoicism, I have a little bit of it, but I have far more of like, oh my God, how am I going to get through this? I can't do. I can't get through this. I can't get up and then I think get up. But being a mother has changed a lot of the way she handles her fears. I think once you have children, your resilience is built and you -bility to go, okay, I can't wallow, and I certainly can't get into bed for a week and get out. She explains. She's got quite a few quite a. She has a nice big brood. Actually, one of her most daunting roles is in her upcoming film destroy in which she plays to mental police detective. Okay. That was a that was a hell place to exist. She says at the real, I completely pain to the point. My husband was like, I cannot wait for this to end. All right. So looking forward to seeing that film. And more news, Tom Arnold ambushed by Mark Burnett at pre EMMY party sources, say. A source states that the orchestration between time onnell in reality, TV producer, Mark Burnett at pre Emmys party on Sunday night was a publicity stunt on our part, their source who witnessed instep between Burnett stays there, ambushed Burnett and his wife from Downey. They feel very setup. The source says they were basically ambushed, Tom Zafy what he wanted. I tend to get because he's all over the news. On Sunday night Burnett, both attendant, the evening, the evening before party and century city benefiting the motion picture film television on MP t. f. I don't let a clamber net choked him a spokesperson for the PD confirmed to entertainment tonight on my name that I report for battery was made by against Burnett, Mark Burnett just went ape, Abe crap and chokes me at this huge EMMY party. Then he ran away with his torn pink shirt and missing chain and waiting for LAPD the fifteen. The fifty nine year old actor tweeted on Sunday night. Soon after Arnold Powell petting Aswa tweeted a photo of them together, allow with this caption. I'm with at time everyone. He's okay. We gotta protect this brutal angel. I don't hit to possibly confronting Burnett at the Emmys in recent interview. The actor has a new vice show called the hunt for the Trump tapes with Tom Arnold which chronicles his quest, uncover, the potentially damaging tapes of the now president. During his apprentice days. Burnett was the executive producer of Trump's hit reality show. They're really worried about me going about me being anywhere near him out, told salon dot com. I'm like, what about the country guys? I'm definitely going to do something at the Emmys. The source claims that I don't have a camera crew until on Sunday night. Allegedly heard the cameraman say, oh, good, I got it all the source further claims that Tom goes right up to market, pulls on his shirt, rips it and then put off my crucifix adding that survivor host, Jeff, Probst separated the man romance. Markman were innocent bystanders. Source ads after the altercation. Downing tweeted a photo of her bruised hand handwriting. Got this Bruce tonight. When Tim, I don't try to ambush. My husband Mark me at a charity event is your TV shirl worth it, Tom, please stop. On it was quick to respond. Bullcrap censure, you lie. You're crazy. Has been attacked me. You psycho. He tweeted, I'm fine police report and suing you for defamation Roman, not director, Brian Fogel phone out of his hand. At the Mark Burnett choked me bracket came Brian king with me. He won the Oscar this year for his undocumented Acuras. He has a tape. He has tape according to that line. I don't tell people in tennis tape of Trump on this reality show have been handed over to Ronan Farrow fair won the Pulitzer prize this year for his reporting on the metoo movement to hash to movement including the allegations against Harvey Weinstein. There you go. Julie Chen leaving the talk after husband. Let's move as exit from CBS. So Julie Chen is leaving the talk after being a no show for multiple days in a row. Following husband, let's move as exit from CBS. The forty eight year old TV personality will not be returning to the award winning talk show according to multiple reports. She is expected to announce a departure via videotape masters that were aired during Tuesday's episode, chin has been a moderator talk since made. Its debut is part of CBS. Daytime programming black in two thousand ten. So it's been eight years. Okay. As previously reported Shannon who has been married to move as for fourteen years has stood by her husband who previously served as chairman and CEO of CBS Amit multiple allegations of sexual misconduct against him move has the not the allegations chin address the controversy in late July during episode of the talk, some of you may be aware of what's been going on in my life the past few days. She said, I should the one and only statement I will ever make this topic on Twitter and I will stand by the statement today tomorrow forever. Okay. The statement she's referring to read, I have, no. My husband Leslie move this since the late nineties, and I've been married to him for almost a fourteen years. Leslie is a good man and a loving father, devoted husband and inspiring corporate leader. He has always been a chi-. And moral human being. I fully support my husband and stand behind him. And his statement last week Chan appeared on big brother where she for the first time, used her full married name was signing off. I'm Julie, Chen moon vis, Schick slain, good night. Okay. Demi bottles, mom breaks for sounds of the singers overdose. So. Nearly two months after Levada was hospitalized for apparent overdose, her mother. Ano Deanna, the Lagarde's appeared on Tuesdays episode of Newsmax TV and open up about that tragic day. It's still a really difficult thing to talk about. You said, I literally start to shake a little bit. I start to remember what happened that day. They're the guys were called getting bombarded with text messages from loved ones, expressing their concern and well wishes for the for the singer. Still the matriarch didn't know what was going on. It wasn't until she received a call from Levada assistant Kelsey Kirshner, that she learned the truth. So I was in shock. I didn't know what to say. She recall it was just something that I never expected to hear as apparent about any of my kids when she asked me for daughter was okay. This system told the worry parent. The confidence singer was conscious, but not speaking. I knew at that point that we were in trouble. She said, gonna guys, then Brockton about sisters, Dallas, Madison, while the mother knew she had to get to see the Senate hospital, she didn't feel like she could drive. So Dell's off the taker. It's understandable. We got there as quickly as we could. They Lagarde's said Dallas Madison, and I jumped out of the car at the agency really ran to the emergency room to be by her side. She didn't look good all she was in bad shape, but I said to her Demi I'm here. I love you. And that point she said back to me, I love you too. That's nice. Gaza creditor faith with helping her cope during this difficult time from that point on never allowed myself to ever think that things were going to be. Okay. Weren't going to be okay. She continue. I pray, of course, all the way to hospital. My faith is strong. I think that was one of the things that got me through the next couple of days when she was in critical condition. We just didn't know for two days if she. I was going to make it or not. And there had to be very scary for Miss Taylor Carson, glad that she did. So she had to go through that. I can't imagine any parent wanted to go through something. My, it's horrible. She also, she also partially attributed Levato survival to the love and support she received from the fans. I just feel like the reason she's alive today is because of the millions of prayers that went up that day when everybody out what was happening. She said, I don't think she would be here if it hadn't been for those prayers and the good doctors and see the cyanide. They were the best couldn't have asked for a better team of people to save her life. As for her daughter's current conditioning guys said the recording is doing really well. She's happy. She's healthy. She's working on a sobriety. She's gained the help she needs. She added that at self encourages me about her future about the future of our family. There are also revealed that she had received permission before going on the show, near the end of the interview. She spoke Hanley about the country's up your prices, good for you. You don't see a Comey and that's the scary thing. She said the opium crisis in America is as at an epidemic level and people don't understand that until they start reach researching it. After this happened, I started researching and looking into how appeals opioids are killing our kids. It's happening. I think it's every fifteen minutes. Someone dies of an overdose is not just the kids either. It's grownups, it's mother's, it's father's. She then thanked the show from her speak out and and giving me this platform. It's something that if it is not, excuse me, it's something that. If it has not touched your family's life right now before this kids any better, it has every chance of doing that. She said. So thank you for helping me speak out. I want to do whatever I can and this fight and fight with whoever will help Nevada was hospitalized for over those back in July. The news came just a few weeks after the Grammy nominee release sober a song which she apologize for breaking sobriety should also sober six years of sobriety. March. Anybody can fall down, but you know about getting back up and she did that. So that's what's important. So we are very happy that mistletoe is doing well. After news, the hospitals ation broke several celebrity share their hopes and prayers for auto on social media, including l. generis, Joe Jonas, her ex woman, her ex Wilmer Valderrama also rushed by to be by her side. It wasn't until her rep spoke out that fans Leyla was awake with your family. Then an August broker, silence and open litter fans have always been transparent about my journey with addiction part of part of her letter read. But I've learned is that this illness is not something that disappears or fades with time. There's something I must continue to overcome and have not done yet. It's true that Levada has always been open with her fans about his struggles with drug and alcohol addiction, as well as with her history of eating disorders and self harm. She underwent we have in two thousand ten at the age of eighteen. She still so young. But you keep on doing well. So we look forward to seeing you out in public will forward to you being fully recovered any. So we were, we always the best anymore news Sookie Waterhouse accidentally shot someone filming assassination nation, man, that's not a good look. Sukey Waterhouse accidentally shot. Some of them her new film, assess nation. The actress made the confession on Monday while tending the movies, New York premiere at the metro graph, the bullet ricocheted. She said per per page six. The hadn't seen. They hadn't seen that in twenty years. The book came back at the guy in hurt him Waterhouse claim. She didn't get an accent. She didn't get extensive firearm training before shooting the scene. I'm not gonna lie. It was. It was maybe an hour. She said, pretty media outlet. The mile didn't view of the name of the person who suffered the injury and the film's reps stood it. They didn't have any further information on the incident. The movie is about four women who are accused of hacking and shifting the communities, private information, sparking a modern day, witch home while the film's setting sale, Massachusetts the cast and crew actually filmed in New Orleans. It looks like the shooting wasn't the only trouble the group got into while filming we got banned from to New Orleans bars, what how set for the media outlet, it's really hard to do that. And then it's Bill Skarsgard and shake ups. Biltong also appear in the film. The movie hits theaters nationwide on September twenty. First, there you go. Pitcher mizuki. What a house. Picture. And we'll talk about Ken and more entertainment news. After this break, the average sedan is built with a steel frame equipped with six airbags. Remember this the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, but estrin don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. Is Ron from my is launch somebody. Somebody. Fun. Somebody. Alexa play hits from Queen. Okay. With Amazon music of voices. All you need, get tens of millions of songs, download the Amazon music app today. We're back once again, you listen to Golden State media concepts, entertainment podcast, the should captain Keith and got more intimate news for you. But before we get to that kin k. I n.. Excellent science fiction film that I saw. I was very excited when I saw the trailers for over the past two months. I think it's the movie. Didn't do well, but. I saw the trailer is always in the theater may have seen on TV once or twice, but I do get the feeling that when it hits DVD and when it hits like Netflixing streaming, I think it will do better on DVD. It's a great film. It's directed. Well, let me so it's directed by Jonathan Baker, Josh Baker, I think, brothers as based on this short term called back man. So let me give you this. Nounce chased chased by vengeful Krim criminal. The feds and a gain of other worldly soldiers are recently released ex-con and as the teenage brother are forced to go on the run with the weapon of mysterious origin as their only protection. So that's like the best way to describe this enough since you know the plot of it. So the main characters are ally. Solent sqi play by miles short who steals the show. He's great on this. Jack Rayner plays Jimmy skis, big brother, and Dennis Quaid plays the dad house Lewinsky Zoe Kravitz is in this in this movie. She plays Millie, who's a love interest for Jimmy's linski and James Franco is Taylor Balak. I'm not gonna tell you what he what he plays, but you're gonna wanna see him in this. I want to say. I got. I got keep you guessing some stuff. So basically. This is filmed in Detroit and is based on Detroit. So that was cool to see. Dennis Quaid plain house linski the dad. He's widowed, basically, and he's raising his son ally, very kind of quiet and shy. Introverted. Hells older son, Jimmy has been in prison and he gets out so and how engineers have a very strained relationship. How loves his son, but just don't get along. There's a lot of miscommunication things that have just been unsaid. And. When she gets home and he sees a big little brother's gotten, he's happy to see him. You find out? Well, see, I don't want to jump. Let me so before Jimmy gets home. He spent a lot of time by himself. He feels very isolated, doesn't have any friends. Maybe he's still getting, you know, maybe he's still mourning the loss of his mom while or the loss of adopting palm. So right now it's just him and his dad, how and. So a lot of times because time by himself, he'll go to abandon factories and strip the copper and take the comedy to recycling planting on sell it for money. So. Eventually is dead health and said about the snap pleased. So he'll do that. He'll go to school and you know, go to school base going to do that to. She doesn't come straight home. Basically. What happens one day. Ghost one of his usual, you know. Abandoned factories, maybe it's look for some copper and he sees all of these like bodies laying on the ground. They're all like looking like they're dead. So you know, he's kinda curious like what happened here? Because usually it doesn't see that he usually is just these industrial factories that are just abandoned. We have a lot of that in Detroit actually, or they used to on a still doing that. But. Among those bodies. He sees this big retainer case. So you like picks it up. Okay. What's this? He puts his hand on. It cannot partially opens, okay. This is cool. This is mine. So at that point, he li- forgot all about the the copper just took that home kinda hit it. So then like I said, so then, you know, Jimmy is big by the comes home and jitney adjustment for handling this really knows better anymore seen in so long. And you know, Jimmy has kind of some resentment toward how because he's like, you never came to see me. I heard him. So you find out that. While Jimmy was in jail, you know, he had somebody who was protecting him. And the expectation is that when you hear out of jail, you're gonna have to compensate us for protection that we gave you why you ran jail. So. That becomes an issue. And you know house is trying to figure out how to. Reaches son because he knows Jimmy do more and be more than what he is. He doesn't want Jimmy to be back to his ways or go back to jail any any. He also wants him to be, you know, a big brother, Eli. 'cause Eli need somebody. So basically. What happens. UI has a falling out with his dad, Jimmy. And it's a big and important falling out. The fallout so big that Jimmy basically is forced to leave home, but he takes ally with him. And then slowly. Allies able to open up the whole gun and the gun I puts his his, his thumb wars history on the handle of the bigger Tingler case or box opens up, has to Connie fires. It NEC's. Yeah, it's basically like a real powerful laser. So that gun comes in handy when Jimmy gets in trouble. So it's just interesting to see the image between Jimmy and ally. Jimmy, is this adult. He's too big brother, but he's like a kid. He's very child like, you know. But I mean what the same time? He's a lot of fun and he loves his brother than allies. Seems like this young serious old man with a way to the world on the shoulders Amin. I mean. Across. So I've actually, you lie Jimmy. They leave town gather. And. They run into. Millie played by the way Kravitz wanna say happens, nothing everybody quite the same. It's a cool story because there's all kinds of people chasing them and they want different things from him. And. What I like about this movie is the way to end because it was a huge, huge surprise. I didn't see coming and I really enjoyed it made me really think. But yeah, he lies really materialised persons young kid just wearing by lying tone, you know, once the truth. So it's and when I see mouse chew it, the guy who plays the, you know, he lie. I think about the Spiderman universe marvel in how there's more than once by one is called miles Morales, and he's a African American, I think in Dominican, Puerto Rican and I totally see Mastro plane miles Morales that's party man, alternate universe. Some put that out there. I think he'd be great addition to tomorrow, comics in that regard. Definitely like to see the mouse morale Spiderman movie, and there's going to be a spider verse movie coming out soon to animated have all the spider men and women people together at please some intrigued with that. But I just wanted to say that it's a really cool because you get to see Eli bomb of his older brother, Jimmy, and you get to see the nastiness of the the, the arch nemesis. Does it real good job? I mean, they actually MRs so I'm going to say not to give it away, but yeah, it's a, it's a really good movie. I'm looking forward to owning it on DVD. I wanna come available if it's still around, I would definitely encourage the check it out because this movie things it deals with love and loyalty, honor inspiration patients. So it is all those things and the university of those things. So, yeah, definitely recommend Ken k. I n. and now want to see the original short film. So called, yeah, back, man. I'm gonna care about that. This is a real good movie crafts, great job. She has great chemistry on the film's. Well. So yes k. I n. check it out that one scale of one to ten, I get that one to ten. I do too excellent film a lot. A lot. I say, I really, really enjoyed the ending a nice Twitter didn't see coming and I love it when you can do that to me, love that when you can fool me 'cause his nineties, not easy. It's not. All right, but I think it's supposed to out to the internment news. So where where we? Oh yes. Oh yes. Drake say, thanks so Drake, sues woman over alleged false pregnancy and rape claims. Yeah. I mean, I started doing kind of have a gym. Drake, soil woman, excuse me. Drake is suing a woman who he says, Fossett 'cuse my raping and impregnating her doing one night stand and who allegedly then try to extort him for millions of dollars. My times have changed. You didn't hear these type of things three years. In April two thousand seventeen Leyla lays said on social media that the rapper got her pregnant and then dashed or calls she posted on Instagram. What were depicted as Texas changes to and a photo of a lab printout of a practice test order. She let it the leader, her account, which later appeared on Sirius XM radio shade, forty five channel saying she was a hundred percent sure. Drake pregnant. She made no mention of sexual assault. All right. So this Drake, no, this person on Tuesday Drake found a lawsuit against lace, accusing her of civil extortion. And most on the stress fraud defamation and abuse of process. He claims that the two had consensual because because me he claims that the two had consensual protect sex as she met him in Manchester England while he was on tour last year, and there is no credible evidence of pregnancy or any baby, which would have been born last fall. Oh, this Drake are -scribed. It'll scorpion all my or my on my Leyla lace is a former stripper. I love my job. I love idea. Like I tell all of you people, planet earth, unknown universe. I can't make this stuff up. I don't even make it up. I just don't. Layla lace is a former stripper who has spent at least the last year and a half planning and scheming to in her words, make feel they're out of megastar arbitrate grams freaking as the documents state. Drake has had enough and brings this action to stop. Her tracks. Lace has not responded to Drake's lawsuit, and there's a picture of getting expensive cars and he'd looks kind of like. Oh, I wanna do I love how journalists can finally the worst pictures of celebrities and a lot of times even Dr real. I'm like, how'd you find that picture? You know. Or maybe it isn't Ono maybe it is. Some fans think machine-gun Kellyanne Eminem are faking their feud. Okay. Let's see. Kill shot. I rap devils pitcher of Eminem and machine-gun killing. They look like twins is kind of scary while this picture themselves by side set for machine Kelly's taller and his pitcher wearing a black sheep shirt wolf, and she's clothing you can get with this. You can get with that. Okay. All right. Any conspiracy meal has begun the charm. It's no secret that machine gun. Kelly. An imminent had been feuding six years after g k caught Eminem's, then teenage daughter hot as as a as freak since her on Twitter, the kamikaze star fire back at his new foe with this track, not like wrapping and I'm talking to you, but you already know who the f. u R Kelly. I don't use the blooms and sure freak. Don't sneak this, but keep coming on my daughter Haley. Just like that rat battle. Begin MGK responded to the song three days later with the distract rap. Devil. More on this story. After this break, the average SUV has two blind spots ways between four and six thousand pounds and takes about six seconds to stop. Remember this the next time you were on foot pay attention. People pedestrians don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. Hi, it's Jamie progressive's number one. Number two employee leave a message at the, hey, Jamie, it's me Jamie. This is your daily pep talk. I know it's been rough going ever since people found out about your Capella group mad harmony, but you will bounce back. I mean, you're the guy always helping people find coverage options with the name, your price tool. It should be you giving me the pep talk. Now, get out there. Hit that high note and take mad harmony all the way to nationals this year. Sorry, pitchy progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Pricing coverage match limited by state law. And welcome back to state media concept's team apar- cast the camps and keep speaking. And we're talking about Eminem machine gun Kelly. Oh, yeah. Meanwhile, got fired up about Kelly, an interview of sway Calloway. I don't give a free about your career. He said about educa-, you think actually freaking think about you. You know how many freaking rappers are better than you leaving in the freaking conversation that same week, the Grammy winner dropped kill shot using drawing MGK's face a target as a cover as as the cover art for the track. Yes, he did. And I heard I heard kill shot and I've heard rap devil. I would encourage you all the checkup tracks. They're very interesting, so that's. Yeah. So I'm going say I'm gonna say anything else, but I heard them both. Boy, did I. So, well, it's unclear what to expect next. They're seemingly full has raised a few eyebrows online. Some Twitter used to that. There has been more arranged then tick the alleged proof to start. Both artists are scientists call records. Some fans have also pointed out that producer Ronnie. Jay has production credits on both Eminem's track, not a like an energy case response rap double as well as a writing credit rap devil. The plot thickens. There's also been the claim that the drama and the buzz around their beef was meant to benefit both artists. Or both artists sales as Eminem released his temps do album kamikaze at the end of August, Angie care sets released his EP Ben, John Timu twenty-first. Okay. The internet certainly loves conspiracy theory. Let you form your own opinion. Yes, we will. But that's interesting stuff I did not know about that was not aware so that you go real housewife stars, excuse me, real housewife, star, Porsche Williams's pregnant Sixers, after miscarriage. Congratulations. They're real housewives of Atlanta star nounce the news on Wednesday today I'm happy healthy and pregnant. The mother to be wrote on Instagram along with the hashtags blessed hashtag, maybe McKinley and actually DM, which are the Nichols of her boyfriend McKinley this, the couple's first child together. Okay, that's right. It's real housewives. She's not married, but there's a whole bunch of might that boggles my mind. Okay. I'm sorry this. The couple's first child together according to people the the thirty seven year old reality star reveal the happy, surprised her bow on his birthday back into lie. That's nice. Birthday present. Actually, the pair the pregnancy came from the left, but it definitely has brought us closer together. She told the magazine people excuse me because you realize when it sets when it sets in that you're actually bringing life to this world that you have become a family overnight. So now a lot of the things that we had talked about our reality, we work really hard at wanted to be a good couple and build a strong foundation for a new family that we're going to have by. You're going to get married, just wondering, well, William says she was excited about the new. She also admitted she was a bit fearful, especially considering she suffered a miscarriage about six years ago. I've had a miscarriage before my pass, which I've also been open about because I suffer it with five Royds and half and had to have a mile mile. Mechta me. She stated just a fear is, is the baby going to be okay when I make it full-term, all this questions that you ask if you had a miscarriage before, show about the loss in two thousand twelve blog for blog post for Bravo. I was really, there was terrifying the loss of my first pregnancy, not just a physical pain, but a achey sense of loss and loneliness like my body let me down. She wrote feeling sorry for myself. I did my research discovered the US National Institute of health reveals that reveals at least twenty five percent of women suffer from uterine fibroids as many as seventy seven percent of women may not even know they have them because there are no symptoms, which is why I had no clue. I will faithfully continue to stay prayerful that would become a mother for the second time. As a result, she considers this time. Life, a blessing. The dream come true. The sex of the child has yet to be revealed. However, the two already breaks baby names Williams isn't the only one in the real housewives family getting ready for motherhood Kenya. Moore's expecting her first child with Mark daily. Congratulations to the growing families. There you go. The network and Bravo are both part of NBC universal. If you didn't know and good people are the planet earth in the known universe. You know what time it is time for keeping up Konya. Yes, I know it's been a minute kind. You west says he's moving back to Chicago permanently. Yes, he does. Kanye west is making moves on Monday the forty one year out stronger rapper, join chance to rapper and then for open mic, Chicago open mic Chicago into your type up at schools during the event west share it with the crowd that he's moving back to his hometown and video posted on social media by attendees. West can be heard telling the excited. The excited crowd. I gotta let you know that moving that Chicago and I'm never leaving again. Now, according to TMZ west and Kim Kardashian have already found a home and then when they city, but we'll also keep the property that they own in Los Angeles. Also reports that west will move his easy officers from Calabasas to Chicago. When you're rich, you're going to have more than one home in different places. So there you go Twitter user at Andy eases. Posted a video, the crowd erupting. Cheers as west spoke to them from the stage. The crowd can be heard, chandy rappers name as he stood before them Chicago's very, excuse me. Chicago has very special place and both Kanye Kim's hearts so much so that they named their third child, Chicago west and out of the city, Kevin Cayenne. Welcome Chicago, be a surrogate back in January. Yes, Kanye and are happy to announce the arrival via healthy. Beautiful baby girl came share to Herat APPA time where incredibly grateful to our surrogate who made our dreams come true with the greatest gift can give into our wonderful doctors and nurses for the special care. Kimiko are also parents to northwest and Saint Louis. North west is five. Saint west is to keep the action star has yet to address the Chicago move. Okay. Maroon five is front minutes performed during the Super Bowl. I have time show. I like maroon five. They're great. Pop ban. Looks like it's not a secret anymore. Maroon five's or front runners to perform during the Super Bowl, a gig that will take place during halftime of NFL championship game at Mercedes Benz stadium in Atlanta, Georgia. On February third, two thousand nineteen. This band made up of frontman AMI with Jesse Carmichael. James Valentine PJ Morton, Matt Flynn, Sanford, and Mickey Madden is currently on their red pill blues tour. But conveniently have a break between New Year's Eve show in Las Vegas and the Australian leg of their tour which kicks off on February nineteenth. Okay, Levin has previously expressed interest in performing. They have time show totally Howard Stern in two thousand fifteen. He and his bandmates are very actively very actively want to play the Super Bowl who wouldn't right. The band's reps. See. Looks like a ever speech out to the band rep zip regarding this report as well to NFL and Pepsi who sponsored to have time show last year. The US Bank stadium in Minneapolis, Minnesota, just intimidate did the honors performing at halftime during the Super Bowl game which the Philadelphia Eagles one forty one thirty through over the England Patriots such a great game. Disney reportedly launching standalone streaming shows for Marvel's low key and scarlet witch who knew. But as low key supposed to be dead, you're saying. To the breakout stars of the Mara, excuse me of the marvel cinematic universe, low key and scarlet which may soon begin their own standalone shows. Disney's already made it known that they have some ambitious plans for their upcoming proprietary digital streaming service, variety reports that numerous superhero shows are in the works. Two that are in early development include a series of focus on the as guarding and Batty turn Lockton hero and another that follow the followed the powerful haired adventure marvel. Already has a number of standing alone TV shows featuring their so called street level. Superheroes Netflix such as iron fist, Jessica Jones cage daredevil and the punisher, and the ABC series agents of shield. However, it's believed that these shows may be more closely tied in with the MC you and may even star the actors who originated the roles. Tom, Hilton has low key with Olsen starlet, scarlet witch. According to variety, the scope and budget of these new shows could be significantly larger than what we've seen before. They are expected to be six to eight episodes for their first seasons. It is also also appears that they will be produced by marvel studios who are responsible for making the big budget films. Unlike they're already existent shows which are produced under the marvel TV banner. It's awesome said that. Let's see. The Disney studio has remained silent about me of this Pacific regarding the upcoming streaming service. And more news. Savannah Guthrie in Hoda. Coat kill TB, make shocking. Today's show confessions never have. I never have I ever game. Okay. Okay. Cupid both of them. Savannah Guthrie holda are coming clean the today, show co anchors appeared on Tuesdays, which watch on Tuesdays, watch what happens. Live with Andy Cohen where they played a game of never. Have I ever focusing on their set secrets. Both savannah Guthrie. Excuse me, both savannah and holda admit that they have avoided guest before a show and asked question they regret it, wow, most of mine crypt of her questions. Well. Savannah, no, that that asking clicker nationals, Robert cashing, your dad was her biggest embarrassment? Yeah, that's the l. on that one. Most of their forgotten someone's name in the middle of interview. Both neither, but neither morning show personality claim to have ever, blah anywhere from today set, though Cohen at minute that he has banned some celebs surprisingly, despite her onscreen and with Kathleen Gifford holding sister. She's never been drunk on the air. Though she did admit to passing gas. Oh, my. Savannah in Hoda said they introduce themselves to a guest. They met before and had been turned off by bad breath interview Guthrie all snow. She has no aggress when it comes to her awkward interview with Orosa manigault Newman on the today show the long time. You're only sat down with the former White House aide in August. I had of the release of her new till book unhinged got through open about awkward experience. When asked if she would have done anything differently. She said slowdown, savannah, which actually my sister made a coffee that said, slowdown, savannah Guthrie quipped. But then at the end, she said, I'm out of time after go. I don't know if I would do anything differently. She was on this show. She's promoting her book. Then she said, I've got to go. I've got something better to do. Ouch. Throughout the ten minute interview outta told Guthrie to calm down until they're finish answering the question before she said she had to get to another interview and cut the time short. I think the van was masterful with that. That was like j. school take notes, Hoda said of the incident. I never met anyone who wanted less time to sell their book, but then she's like, I'm out Guthrie quipped. There. It is. Don't know what to say to that. Julie Chen took up while fishy announcing. She's leaving the talk. So this is more detail about Julie leaving the talk, this more specific. So see. So the euro television personality announced the news on Tuesday yesterday abo take the message trip US from the set of big brother. So she was on the set of big brother when she made her nouncement. She take to. I had been at the talks as the day started nine years ago, and the cast crew and staff had become family over the years. She said right now, I need to spend more time at home with my husband and our young son. So I decided to leave the talk. I want to thank you the viewers for allowing me into your home every day. It was a privilege that I will forever. Be grateful for later Chan, fought back tears while thank you. The show's crew said, personalized message or co host, including show Underwood and eve addressing Sara Gilbert and Sharon Osborne. She again got emotional to Sarah and Sharon, we have been together since they want at the talk. She said, I spent every day with you both. I'll always treasure friendship. They're great parenting advice from both of you and the memories and laughs and private jokes that three of us have. Shared where the reality original three musketeers. I love you all and I know this show and the sisterhood it stands for will live off and many many more years to come. He laid his got this and I cannot be more proud to call you my friends. I love you. That's very nice statement. CBS CBS later, thanked Chan for her time on the talk in the statement. The sea. Shouldn't say anything About Eve and Cheryl for eight seasons. Julie Chen has called for the talk with incredible energy, grace and professionalism. The statement reads, towns played a big role in our successful launch of CBS. I network daytime talk show and in the series growth into an EMMY award, winning broadcast all of us here have tremendous appreciation for the dedication, the passage she brought to the show every day and for generous role as an ambassador for CBS daytime, we are grateful for many other contributions, respect to decision and was Julie all the best and everything she does. That's very nice statement. It's very supportive has been chin has been a co host on the daytime, talk show since it made its debut toper two thousand ten, but hasn't appeared on the talks, move as resigned on September ninth, as chairman and CEO of CBS Amit multiple sexual misconduct allegations against him. He has denied the allegations. Chin did, however, return to hosting duties on CBS, big brother. This past Thursday. Where she showed her support for husband, fourteen years for the first time she used her full married name was enough already told you about that. She also tweet a photo of her holding a big brother of UCAR. Her wedding ring on prominent display. And July chance. Yeah. I mentioned that to see. Let's see. Okay. Yeah, since then, so six more women have come public with allegations against move as which include forced, kissing, forced oral sex, unwanted advances in physical abuse and a second New Yorker reported. And the second New Yorker reported published on September ninth statement to the publication sixty eight year old move as now three of the encounters but said they were consensual. The appalling act his, let's move this quote, the appalling acusations in this article are true. The statement reads, what is true? I had consensual relations with three of the women, some twenty five years ago before I came to see Bs and I have never used my position to hinder the advancement of or careers of women and my forty years of work. I've never before heard of such disturbing accusations. I can always reminds they're servicing now for the first time decades later as part of a concerted effort by others to destroy my name, my reputation and my career. Anyone who knows me knows that the person described in this article is not me. CBS corporation announced move exit last Sunday, a one hundred twenty million financial exit package for the television exec would be withheld pending. The results of the boards and dependent investigation. The company said it will donate twenty million to one or more organizations that support has take me to move it and equality for women in the workplace. So wait a minute. A hundred and twenty million dollars is his, his golden parachute pending. Wow. Okay. Wow. All right. And we're gonna squeeze in one more. Samantha, Ronson states Eminem's and ugly misogynous to pay go away f- an old man. Samantha, rousing probably which is imminent, turn metaphorical gun on himself and not at machine gun Kelly. 'cause she's tearing the rapper the pieces for kill shot and thinks that this track is a absolute trash. So. DJ was LAX. She wasted no time, ripping Eminonu one saying his songs massage, mystic homophobic, lazy something four year old, right? There was more and you gotta and you've got to see just how nuclear she went on him. The deejay says, Marshall as freaking out manned sensor who has no business dragging me on his name through the mud and the two aperture take their few and ugly styles to the crew. What's got Sam. So heated opens kill shot with the lion reality. Hit me on text last night. I left hickeys on her neck. The line seems alley at a place. You could ask what the hell does. We really have to do with k Sam sees as sees a straight straight misogyny. 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EP 68 - JORDAN JONAS and ZACH GREEN of ALONE

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1:14:37 hr | 10 months ago

EP 68 - JORDAN JONAS and ZACH GREEN of ALONE

"My Name is Gordon Jonasson Amir say. Like this is like the most exciting five seconds of. Twenty twenty. Low what's up? And Jay and this is sharp. I love it at podcast when we invited guests or guests to talk about something well, usually we talk about something underrated underappreciated in the world this time we talk about pretty popular TV show and one of the spoiler alert winners of this TV show. It's going to be a lot of spoilers for this to you show by the way going forward. So in the House, we've got Zach Green the creator of TV show alone. And Blue. God Jordan. Jonas. The man himself who won season six one of the most favored seasons of the show on television Yes the man, the myth. Welcome. Well, come Jordan. To you. Thank. The beer on the beard. Zach you to join but a little while how are you? How are you? Good doing great. How about yourself busy? Keeping busy and J I know you. Know you're you're talking earlier it's been cast gotta be at least ten years since we've we've caught up has it yeah I can't remember the last time I saw US Zach it was it was definitely like a decade ago. What show was it? Did you work on Jingles? I remember that. Ask. Mark. Burnett Days I. Think it might have been on the lot. Was It on the lot? Yeah. I I I couldn't remember. All those shows kind of blended in with each other. But Zach and I go way back. We used to all the way gingell all the way back to jingles. Jordan is the star of jingles. Out like mid mid episode, Jingles is a famous television show in a way because it was never aired. It was so bad. Directed it and Mark Burnett produced it and it was out it was a good. Friend of the show, Mark Burnett and it was a complete disaster and debacle and CBS decided after they had shot the entire season that they could not possibly ear this television show because would be an embarrassment. So I was partially responsible for that but that wasn't there Zach I know Zach from like the good old days of Mark Burnett from Rockstar was a show we did on the lot and we were I have very fond memories of the of that time and and Zach was a was always like one of the best. Within the genre of unscripted television you you come across a lot of a lot of, shall we say incompetent people You ended up meeting a lot of people and working with people on big big productions. Clean Morons, but Zach is the opposite of that like Zach was always like the a team. Pacific to. I. Shall remain nameless but they knew who they are. But they're listening they're listening and they're plotting my destruction but but no Zach was the Zach was like like a superstar producer and always like just so pleasant and just so talented and and was just somebody you loved being teamed up with because he he gets his here by the way. Is, right I'm telling you. The opposite Jordan of what you got to experience actually. Yeah Man. been really lightning. Where that guy go? This is. This is the child alone as the TV show that you created. That is the most popular TV show ever and like just sucked the life out of you. You all just to clarify just. One second to clarify. So I was an executive producer on it, but I didn't create it. So it came. down. Interviews over. We wanted to talk to the creator of. It was it was borne from the history channel and a group of people at pictures the production company I saying, how can we turn the genre on its on its ear? So is really a you know a group of people coming together and saying look here's here's the survival genre. Here's what's the biggest flaw in it in that. The authenticity of that idea that you're you are truly imperil when the participants say they're in peril. You know, I'm GonNa die if I don't eat diagonal cross this river. Well, there's a camera crew in a safety team and a production and those there's people promoting and pushing behind the scenes. So it was an idea it was born out of this idea of how do we remove that obstacle and and that and so it was it was I just WanNa be clear that it was not one a one man show by any stretch of the imagination there many. In my heart, you're the one. I am not convinced I don't know who these people are. We just let us live this lie solution that were under. Your the wizard of Oz, pulling all the strings. But but but no, I mean like like we'll get into it later but but but I, mean that's definitely a thing that I gravitate toward on the show is is the lack of unscripted shows you often As a viewer at least I can sense if you're that the producers of the network people are toying with the reality that's being captured and you can always feel that it's being produced cooks quote unquote but alone doesn't have that it's like pure first person cinema where where, where you you know it's like there's no artifice toying with what's going on and and I. think that's part of why the show is so good and and so so engaging. Let's ask Jordan, from the inside when the Times you most felt like you on the TV show like when you had to talk to the camera or like like what was that experience like a? Pretty. Good job of making it like what they say you know. It's pretty isolated even the MED checks and staff. Pretty. Brief and I kind of enjoyed them trying to like. China talk to the guys while they tried to be real serious and not interested. and. Win Was it the most like you're on TV show I guess when you actually watch it you know because you only see so much of your time you know and so you're like. Oh there you go. It's show but it's actually Pretty much pretty legit I don't know your experience out. There is totally. They did it really a job you wouldn't. Really. Think of it as a TV show from the time they dropped you off to the term ends. You say that and yet wall you're you're out there in the wilderness actually surviving for real like the stakes are as high as they could be. But but at the same time you're filming yourself. So you are kind of constantly. You're there to fill yourself. What is that like to alternate between like? Filming yourself for this television show that might still feel abstract like it doesn't exist while you're in the moment, but but you you still have to capture. All right. I mean you're definitely. Yeah. You're definitely like you know have to film it but I. GotTa say the Filming Aspect of it. I kind of enjoyed because I was Had Been in Siberia for. Myself where I never got to You know it was just me by myself and you have all these crazy experiences and you just know nobody's ever going to share in it and you're GonNa Forget about his again. But out, there is like really cool to be able to film it and know that you're GONNA be able to share it with your friends and loved ones and stuff. So I actually Kinda liked it but it did cost me that first Moose. Got To grab. My Arrows. If I don't. I don't know what you're doing here. You have to go watch. Some. Stakes in Comeback Hungry for more inside story and by the way like Jordan just you just drop the s word. Siberia. So just to make it clear I, am from. Siberia born and raised. Chemicals boss. triggerfish. Jimmy Morada candidate came in. I actually correctly no Jordan has. You. There you can't even say the candidate. Roy. Yeah. Yeah was nineteen when I left and I came to America by myself, it's the whole thing. Yeah but it is a thing of like when I heard about Siberia like Jordan? Like. Have to have to make sure like this. Like make sure what I want this guy to it rooting. I. Know that was cool. Though because I was like do it sounds like Siberia that you spend time in is what people think. Oh Siberia. Right, in kindergarten is like not this Iberia. A shitty town could be like in the middle of America pretty much. Dust real kind of like coal mining town but. Like I think one thing people don't understand about Siberia is how enormous it is like it's like the size of the United States and there's all different climates and areas I think we as Americans we hear Siberia. And we think Lake Frozen Tundra, which there's probably a lot of that of course. But but but there's also like the areas near Mongolia's forests lakes i. mean there's all kinds of terrain sle I wanNA say Shitty I, mean the best because I'm very, very intense about protecting in defending my homeland. All right so yes, bureau Jordan, did you go to Siberia since winning season, six? Oh, we actually plan to go this year but I guess got cancelled. So maybe next year. Pandemic from the. Amick and so. This year maybe next year though that's a you definitely want to go back it'd be really cool to take the kids over got. it's more expensive now with all the kids. We gotta do. Three kids read. The Pretty Wild Nice Nice now, I should we needed to take a second here because because we did this, we did it in a loan podcast with my friends wells like a like a couple of months ago. This is what started this whole thing. Why we're here now Because we wanted to do is show our friends that was obsessed with the show. We hadn't seen it, and so we watch didn't and became his. Wife as well, and and so we did a podcast and in the podcast I have to, I have to sit here and apologize because. It's A certain point in the pilot and the room here I I described Jordan your voice and I was I was trying to give you a compliment but it ended up sounding like an insult. But what I said was and I Apologize I, your voice sounded like dimwitted and. It was a choice of words because because. I say this to you and I I do. Apologize but the the point I was trying to make was that your voice can be disarming like when I first introduced as a character on the show you know. It's a very. Gentle kind voice and it almost almost has like. And again, I don't want to insult you but has like almost like a like an animated cartoon type of feel to like it's a voiceover going further into insulting. Human at all day you myself into a deeper hole but but. Go Far. PODCAST. We're really mad at each other but that that was what like when I was like. So in part of the reason so endeared. And connected to your character is that you were kind of disarming and and you know on the surface level, your expectations your first impressions might be that you're a certain your this kind of person when you're actually like the polar opposite, you're you're, of course a seemed like a very kind gentle person but the you're also a brilliant master of your craft and that was the point of what I was trying to say was the. One of my favorite parts of gas. into the podcast because I think that comment pulled in. I'm glad you have a sense of humor about it mean. I didn't think in my head immediately. You're going to listen to it later that night. Okay by the way Jordan, I just have to say like J. Refer to you at least twice just now as the key your character. On the show. Further like just dehumanizing you but I think right Zach and like reality shows like people when they the shows producers do refer to people as characters because you are sort of separating the person you're dealing with behind the scenes from what you're building this character into this person into as part of the bigger story. Can you elaborate more on that absolately? There's. We actually are really careful to use the participant in it will we're talking about alone because because it's very different than say I came up through survivor at marshburn right? noser contestants. and. This is also a competition series. There is a prize at the end and so. By by game show rules, they are content. You know the people that participate our contestants. But in the way we look at it as a participants there is much apart of it the production that producing the storytelling as we are because we've taken that you know that producer director out of it. You know they are now they are participating in the creation of the of the story, not just sub you know not being not just being subjects, but in the to get to your point there j. in the casting process, right we go through this vetting process leading up to you know picking the top ten people for the for that particular season and. It is. There's an x factor. You cannot put your finger on as many times as we've done this as many series is is cast as many series is produced. You know get you'll know at this point, we've done six, seven, eight seasons of alone. You Kit. Tell when someone you know has has that depth of will has the goods you can tell if someone's skilled, you can tell someone is a bold personality or you know his softspoken you can tell what type of. Personality traits they might have. Until they get out in the field until they're launched. You just you don't know how it's all GonNa come together mixed by we. There was no way to predict at and I've known Jordan. We'd gone through casting in you know testing and psychological testing and boot camp inch camera training. Many interviews many conversations. There's no. Predict trough it that he was going to be the guy, right you know Mo-. Nor nor any of the people it is really hard to tell. Is On that stupor. Hard to the. Did. Big Talk. I don't want speak for somebody WHO's not here. But like Niki, who was not season. She liked all those other episode podcast recorded seven Heidi the she was like right away on new Jordan is GONNA win she's like Guy He just had the you know I. Mean if you listen to her, she says you know and I believe her when she says with the I think that's more like because she actually met you in real life like when you're this will part of the reason I love alone is because it really as an audience member experiencing the show. You're going in blind and you're just being shown what what the editors and producers have cut together. It subverts your your expectations. Like when he first introduced characters, you know like everyone's kind of tough and you know certain people exemplify certain certain elements of classic type toughness. But but but as the show goes on, you see how how someone who who you might have put money on the beginning falls to pieces and doesn't have that psychological fortitude to take them through to the end and and that's what like immediately drawn the Jordan because because you just had this this sort of like inner peace. That as we're watching the show, we got to keep an eye on Jordan because he's he's. Experienced in that type of climate. Of, Arctic Circle type of climate that you haven't in Siberia, but then also the the. Well part of Siberia. So But then also that you have the sort of like like inner stability to take you to the finish line. I don't know like I just I just that's a part of the show that I really love is it turns turns our notions of survival qualities upside down. Don't you other dudes like maybe even the season seven the we saw that like I don't even know like I don't want to say who would like you like maybe they're like Jordan type, but they like fall apart because they can't like build something. That's true. You know what I mean it's like you still have to come with skills and personality like. I to me it comes down to. The psychological strength, physical strength skill set you know and I think that each one of those things carries a massive amount of weight in your ability to be successful out there and and I think they're all. The psychological pressures, I think are something that as as we've gone from seasons now, the latest as we've seen this we've studied it more and were we've got a staff psychologist and staff physicians vet are seeing things that have never been seen in in. Certainly in television but even in in studies, there are some prison studies on on a solitary confinement. There are survival stories where there's you know written recordings but nothing's been recorded in this way with people on their own as much as the folks, the participants of alone are on. So my question Jordan is if you think psychological. Pressures. It difficulties for were harder than the physical or would you say physical? Really intertwined like like I think if you. If you you know if you aren't successful on the physical realm, it's going to make the psychological aspect of it a lot harder but if you are. Physically successful. We've seen a lot of people who have success fishing or doing this or that still don't really hack it out there and so they're really so intertwined that I think it's It's hard to Parse. It would be kind of interesting to see how much you guys ever looked at all that and stuff but Yeah it's it's a different story like your goal when you go out in that situation is try not to. You know to try to minimize how much you're gonNA suffer by successfully employing your skills, and if you can do that, then you're the psychological aspect of it is relieved to some degree but Yeah, there's no escaping. You have to have some mental fortitude get there that long it's. Jordan. What was your longest solo trip prior to the show? Like what was the longest trip you had by yourself about five weeks And how long? How long have you been? Six last was. Devon. I got it I really fully expected it to be one twenty or one forty like I I remember that we. Told you a wife right you like minimum I'm going to be gone for like ninety days or something. Somebody was going to get the record figured. It was crazy. It was No, but Yeah. The psychological aspect of it it's it's super fascinating. It definitely gives you a lot of applicable lessons. The life you know don't stress too much about the future you know live in the moment you know be grateful for all those. There's a whole bunch of little lessons. But so when you do say though like the psychological I wonder like zoom in a little more like what do you mean it doesn't mean. The the aspect of the fact that you're on the competition show and you WANNA win or go abroad I mean there's a lot of a lot of stresses that are on your right 'cause you're for one you just have no idea how long it's GonNa. Go. So you you just think the worst kind of like our we're going to be out here six months in. Can I be away from the kids that long? psychological pressures of trying to not allow board I mean it's a crazy after I got the Mousse I thought. You know what it smart now to like chill out and conserve calories and I think I sat in my shelter for like two hours. Holy Crap. This is so. Just like the longest morning on my dime out there. Bish induce some you know like. Trying to maintain your not be super board you like it really that Brady on my season when he quit explained it well, like if you do you want to experience what I'm going through just draw a circle and stand in it for twenty four hours and see you know how you feel about that and and it is of is true if you if If you didn't stay active mentally and physically it would It'll. That's a big aspects interesting. It's it's a lot of times. If if the person is skill, the skills are there a lot of times? It's the boredom that kills you like what makes you like leave? This is interesting because I haven't thought of it. Really, hard. It's so easy to lose perspective on how you know in the end. Okay. It was seventy seven days but. If. You're counting each day by each second and second game eight, I can get so slow so long but. The projects that are hopefully productive or whatever then you can try to pass time faster but. That's an element that I think editorially Zach that you guys did a really good job addressing because it wasn't you I, it's hard to to show on screen. Like. Like the negative space like like all the time. Spent just waiting and sitting you know you get a sense of it and I don't know maybe Zach can can inform us on. What you did in post production to kind of kind of depicts that but by definitely got the sense that while like the days are stretching. Like a minute feels like an hour and if you if you have idle hands, it kind of slowly drives you insane right like. You lose your grip on reality thing that we've that we've found is that. For the first twenty to thirty days, every body is moving like crazy, right they got food water shelter, the basic tenets survival they have to get going. Right you know winter's coming they've got you gotta set up a shelter they've gotta make sure you know in your case, you had a massive lake, but you gotTa make sure you've got sufficient water source. Supply firewood supplies that you've you're finding A. Finding vegetation while that ables that you're finding a long-term food source. You're you're you're exploring your your Lan- you know that your area that you're that dropped it. But so for the first month you're going hard, you're getting all those things ready and then there comes a time where the shelters you need some tweaks maybe but it set you found if you've got trap sadder, you've got you know where you're fishing spot is you've got you know where your wild edibles are you were you got firewood for days. So those big projects start to slow down, and then all of a sudden we signed the participants are left with a lot more time on their hands and for anybody. That has time on their hands. You distract yourself. Right you've got a phone books, Yao, whatever you write you draw you go for a run you. You can distract yourself and have a conversation any which way none of us. Are Truly alone in this world. UNLESS, we make it. So and in this case, they've got nothing to turn to right except for the camera and so that's where I think the psychological pressures. Everybody's got a demon of some sort. And those demons start to come to the surface especially after that day thirty mark we've found. Yeah it's gotTa be fascinating from your guys perspective to see all that you know only get a fraction of it on the show but just watch the whole. Yeah. Whole thing. Go Out. You guys should put out. By the way. We've we definitely talk about it and I think there's so much fodder there and so to that end. People tap out for the true reasons Sony. Or do they crack in? Right, so I lose my fellow Rod really or you know. Even like that. Yeah. I thought a lot like I'm like I'm just done I just want to go see my kids and I'm like. Are You freaking out because you remembering all the childhood trauma that's haunting you at night. That's mostly I was what I was thinking. I think there's There's everything in between people actually lose their fair rod and I think some people hock in the woods. I you know I don't know but I also think that. If you can push pass those things the people that are able to go beyond those that timeframe the twenty, one days, thirty days, and I'd say it's every Tennessee days after that is a benchmark in that in that respect we've found and it is a fascinating look to your human psychology. Because it's it's fortitude its depths. These wells is the depth of willpower that people possess that are uncharted and you can have that you know an amazing depth of will and a an a good skill set or to mazing skillset in a lack of willpower and the person with the good skillset and more willpower is going to go further right if you can if you can suffer. Frankly and have a decent skillset you'll go fairly farms. Jordan spends a Lotta time in Russia he probably is prone to suffering and enjoying. Their chair I guess. How will you getting out of those like black holes that maybe you were experiencing we'll do what was it like thinking about your kids was the thinking about I'm probably going to win this. I mean I gotta say having gone to Russia and spent you know every time I went I would leave all my friends and family and you know and you just they ha- man you didn't actually usually feel I going to Russia I usually kind of forced myself do is I knew it'd be good in the end. It's like me Yoga class. Okay. Sounds similar. Yeah. I've been gone. I did it number five or so dimes where you're gone for a year and so it puts in perspective you're suffering and I remember really. You know in my mind on the mental aspects suffering at times in Russia where I just sit there and didn't know the language yet and you're just isolated man I wouldn't wish this on anybody but then you just have to stick it out for the whole year you know and then go home Weirdos man you have to like Gig. Great actually eleven but then you you go home and you any kind of gives you a perspective I. think that was helpful on alone because it was like okay. This might suck but it's only so much time and. On the same goes for Having, just a perspective on knowing history and knowing the type of suffering people have been through Russians are good people's. Turned and we know our history will love to talk about how much we've suffered. Put in perspective the and having that perspective healthy deal with that suffering a lot better that said when you're out there and it is really there's those boring times come like was talking about and you just don't know to do with yourself. You know you have to. Dig Deep and I'll try to. Do Different things that were helpful for that. But you want to do something like music stuff. Right? He was singing all Magog. Throat singing deal that was the best spar. My feet where I'm like I'm like freaking out I remembered that that was my. Mongolians. Thank God the. Siberian from cameras so he were go zero. Everybody loves a good Tuban throats senior talk that shit. Driving Away I'm like I'm going to put on some throw throat singing local. Things going Oh. So good. Sound yeah, because well around the PYRE. So Jordan. You mentioned that you did a five week solo that kind of your biggest solo trip you've ever had in the wilderness was that in Russia or Yeah, yeah, it was. It was house in some. You know awesome village in. Siberia. They they did fur-trapping my. Buddy and he took me out and gave me a topographical map and pointed to where the cabins were and just had me goes set all his traps for him or. You'd learning her by the way rationed misdemeanor. So it was for work I in a sense it was stranded or no yeah, exactly. Right living with them when you're living with them you just. Do what you can to be helpful just trying to be productive for co-pay. You brought the groceries or you going to five weeks traffic. I gotTa say leads it was funny because just on on the Russian now as like I'd been out there for five weeks I think is pretty cool. You know you kinda think you know not many people do that I was tough and then I met some sixteen year old kid and I was talking to him and he and he goes out for six months every year. With his dogs I was like man, how do you need being alone that long he's like. Dogs. I love that kid already. Where he's dogs. I mean that probably makes all the difference the having companionship even I could non human right I would assume. That that would help ease the psychological burden right And their supplied and stuff. So you know you and you have your daily goals and you're busy and it Kinda helps at pastime. Did you get sucked into the whole Russian SAGA LIKE Obviously, as you can imagine a long story, but it was initially I had heard A Guy Squirrel Ski. Jumper. You're welcome to the PODCAST. Nervous around. You. Know, you're a hunter. Jordan's. Pack leader. I know initially went over to help this. Guy, build an orphanage and and And now it's no big deal the first catalyst the why when over. But I just bought a ticket for a year when over there but. I WanNa live with an American which he was he'd lived in Russia's alive but he so he sent me to a Russian village I could live with people that spoke only Russian I kinda just lived with them. You know did their farmwork Blah Blah Blah you know. Cut Hey with aside and did all that kind of stuff for years I only meant four. Americans when I lived in Siberia and. It's not a lot. So I'm sure you were acquired a site for you. Know a related question here on the five weeks. Solo trip. This is for. Zach. Zach do you find I don't know how much you can actually disclose? But as far as other contestants go like. Like. Have you found that the people that had actual lengthy solo trips in the past do better on the show or is is Jordan kind of an anomaly that that has had a five week Solo because I? The reason I asked is because I notice a lot of times on on on on a loan. The participants will be a lot of them will be very good at their craft at like making traps and survival skills but they haven't actually gone a long amount of time by themselves, and that's kind of what separates the winners from the losers it seems so. Jordan's experience unique or is that common? It's An interesting question so to the there's a bit of a longer answer I guess. Many folks have come on and they've had solo experience. A lot of people even still have that. Experience with the got supplies or they've you know people know where they are. There's an end in sight they go with like a goal I'm going to be out here for thirty days or I'm going to be out here for for you know even even fifty days, but it's That psychological twist of knowing when you're going to be done and having the right they're set up for success the brought supplies with them they brought fire starter whatever it is. You're the difference. Here is your drop in you have. No idea when when you're going to be done, you have no idea of the landscape that you're going to what what you're getting dropped into. So it is very what I'll say it's very rare that anybody's come in and done something that mimics or have done. Something that mimics this experience the way it's set up. And and I think. The common thread here is that whether they're a weekend warrior. Ex Survival expert or their survival instructor. You know a Bush craft instructor which we have everybody on that game aura military eight you know survival expert or whatever. But everybody on that gamut. The common thread? Is They all want the experience? To test their skill, tests, their limits and do it away that. Ideally, there's no loss of life, right but it but push themselves right into the red zone and I think that's what alone has done. So well, what the you know we've done as as a group is reset this, set it up so that we create this bubble and it's a huge bubble named no idea where the where the boundaries of the bubble exist as participants. To allow them to to test their skills, test their willpower test, their merit test, the thing that they've spent decades studying. And in a way that that only they could do you know they're they're in their in their own world each each of the ten have vastly different experience because not everyone location is exactly the same as I remember Jordan Complaining Talking Shit about his location. Forget back I remember to everybody. was burned down right like there was looking explain that the the there was a there was a fire, the last season that had burned a lot of the vegetation. had been one previously like you know an win we were flying in on the helicopter I was looking at my land. Of course, you're trying to absorb as much as you can, and I was like, oh, man, my shorelines shallow and then look at an L. my gosh. All the trees are Brown you know it's just all been all the trees are dead and then they dropped me there and this is like what in the world because of course, it was kind of a similar environment Siberia's that was a plus but not like I would have chosen a place like that in Siberia to live because there's no berries because they've all been burned. So there's no grouse because. Oh on and so. Not. A lot of berries. There's not a lot of bear like I killed that Moose. ooh never saw bear in mind which is odd So there is all those things that made my like plan a B, and c just go right out the window and they dropped me off and then I was I was Kinda matter. Of all the places got me right before the winter you know in the Arctic and then put me in forest fire but you know you just have to adapt and and negative. Just to. Over it just did that happen get over it but you didn't scare anybody because you were so angry but like you're still staying nice personally, you can still tell. Like I am so angry. So pissed right now. I'm like I mean like nobody's scared is the same thing with Russia. How do you say that thing? Green Yeah over and you're like, I am so mad right now at this guy, I'm gonNA. I'm sensing like zero anger, but but it interesting saying that's what I'm saying that like Jordan Jordan's energy like like it just inspires confidence guys are watching this show and and you get put into these bad situations you dropped in this area that's burned down. There's no berries your even keeled enough to say, okay like like like you say playing ABC are out the window. Let's make A. New Plan and you know it just such a radical difference from people who because you're everyone's going to encounter some sort of drama or some sort of tragedy out there and the people that can they can absorb that not let it get them down and say, okay like like if I'm surviving I hear let's figure out a new plan for survival as opposed to dwelling on the negative. Like. They do a good since we're on the topic though I think the I was. Obviously upset about the spot but since the show you know like look into it more and stuff and I don't I think it's They're pretty. Even like they do a pretty good. This place has that resource that place has that resource and it's like They actually do a pretty good job of that and maybe an overall you look you might think overall that guy had a rougher spot or this or that but I think when it comes down to it, you guys do a pretty good job of at least you know in the Arctic I can speak for putting people where you have a chance you know what I'm saying like they. Were sound stage like you have. been built. It's like this is real. The the Wilderness. Where you go, there's going to be pluses and minuses and the beauty of the show and the concept is that. Is that like like Jordan get put in place that's not ideal and maybe as rougher than someone else's. Environment, and yet you come up victorious because you're able to your capacity for problem solving is through the roof. Puzzle and you Kinda unlock the key to whatever it ended that makes your. That will give you that. Ability to survive in your location, but it's you know. As best thing, do you think lock was a big part of you winning or not? Really you don't look at it like that. Yeah. Good question and it's hard to say like if people have talked about got lucky on the meuse or this or that but I mean, I'm sure I don't know how much of the footage Zach walk is but you see so much on the show but and you know in real life it's like well, you can say it's lucky but then you also like a built alarm systems and fences in like in tons of work at try to try to make it actually happened and I sat there and would just sit there and call Moose for hours and Without, without the alarm system, I probably would've never known that the Mousse was walking by you know. Slept through it and thought the next morning man there's no moose in my area. You know what I'm saying. So it's like you kind of. Yourself up. Yeah. You have to set yourself up for success. You got to improve. Improve Your odds of having success by that things you do. It doesn't there's no guarantees but so there's always some. Element of chance and it's just but you really can affect your. ODDS OF HAVING A. Platoon amateur like to me I'm watching season seven or even season six and I see other people who fail but I don't know it yet and they will. They're doing the right thing because I don't know any better died. They're doing the right thing because they're like talk about. Here's the thing there'd be like I'm not going to build a shelter like it'd be like a person I'm not going to build a shelter. I'm just GonNa live to shelter later limoges stick with other stuff and like later I find out like shelter is like pretty much number one with fire thing to take care of before you take care of the food but like as I'm watching it, I'm like totally buying into like they've got a great strategy so like for you though and for Zach like with professional, you can see that like Oh, this person's going the wrong way maybe like but for me I'm like they're all doing the right thing. Area to see from Zach perspective like what people do like the whole he gets pry pretty for the whole. How it all plays out and Estimate. It is start to see some patterns and I ultimately to kind of talking about the. Participants for a second. It is which Kinda threading a needle in that we need ten sites that have. Relatively. The same resources for everybody. So it's fair but you're right j not it's the wilderness you're not. You're not going to find ten identical sites. So, there's a balance and we have survival experts on staff that help us evaluate the sites and and you know I've gotten a point now that I'm pretty good at it myself. But I still you know we still have those folks that that coach us and make sure that if they say it's good than I. Trust that it's good. You know these are You know Dave holder for instance, shout out to. Probably. He's amazing. But. We also need them to be. Within, striking distance of our of our safety teams that we have out there. So that if there's an emergency, we can get to them that we have our boats can get in and out that we can get a helicopter in and out if need be for for rescue mission. So. There's. Close enough. So that we get to the but not close enough that they can see or hear any of our activities. So it's it is a bit of a a bit of a puzzle So and then when you turn the choosing who goes where we do a blind choice. Essentially. Picking A, you know a number out of a hat I mean sometimes we flip. Ten stones with a number on it you flip your stone and we always film it, and so Jordan picked his own site. I mean it could have been any number. Any one of those people we go Jordan next time complain think about it. But my point is I knew of course knew that there was a forest fire there and we knew that that was. Going to cause no some hurdles for people, but we also spent some time there to understand. That there were a lot of rabbits. Station Yeah. There were other opportunities, but it was up to the participant to land there and figure it out and rise to the occasion which a big reading gray at a good angle on appreciated raise. Pro. Because he if watching this go, he would be the guy think he got the worst spot or so if you just watch the show but he actually after the show, you know those guys took him out and showed him how many fish were office shoreline you know, and you could just catch all these fish and so then I heard him discussing later that like he did have a lot of fish but he's not he wasn't really a fisherman. He's a good hundred and and so you just you know made it hard to. Make the most out of his area because. His Area A, lot of fish and I. It's Just. Half you know being able to adapt I really appreciated his input on that. You know as I think you're right adaptive, but you just said and adaptability is the name of the game right I really thought I was going to be hunting bears out there. That was like my plan a and I never. I guess you're the bear man. I'll moose. Like You just have to. Just on the subject of luck like it can easily be misconstrued that it's luck but it's like what luck really is is a whole shitload of of hard work and perseverance, and then a little bit of timing you know like. There's luck. We're like the luck of the draw, right so the luck of the draws you got this this one area and maybe another like true element of luck is like, oh, there's like a there's an abandoned boat that was that was like buried in mud on you know that you're able to salvage like that. That's more luck. But like but you know what I think a lot of people misconstrue is luck is someone's really Hard. Earned like manifesting of reality like you say well, I have to manifest something positive out of its you create your own reality. You're right now that it's a good way to put it. It's like yeah, it's complicated. There are situations that are almost just blind luck. You know like add some funny ones in Siberia where Burgess killed a Moose right next to my. You Know My. My cabin and like went out and there is a whole Moose Land Sixteen they're offering. So. I used to laugh on the show I was like how funny would that be if that's how somebody one debts? Bear came killed you. Change. All the hard work right. So that was blind luck but I will say like in that situation on that show. It was a relatively lower percentage of just the amount of like you know you got to. You A lot of people I'm not sure Zach knows this better but like how much do I don't know how much people like The balance between how much people walk around and hunt and are active versus how much they tried to chill near they're not burn calories. You can't really tell on the show I. Know I was airing definitely on the side of being active and being out there and doing that helps you increase the odds. You haven't encountered just being out in the woods obviously and then. All the setting up and the you know the other stuff talked about. So and then of course, you have to have some degree of that. There is a animal that ever walked by, but I do think that. The Nice thing I liked about the Arctic. You know. I think for I don't know I imagine for most people their prime animals, but I don't know well, and and so to answer your question, the the amount of movement that a participant. You know get gets does is directly proportional to how successful they are in epicure food. So she got the more the more active they feel they can be right. There's the psychological thing like you know where people might start hoarding food seeking I'm going to save this rated, not eat it and then all the sudden you know you're doing yourself a detriment because you know your health is failing and yeah, you know yet you've got you've got food. So you were you were great. Yeah. You you were very successful with terrestrial. Creatures. And I think you're right that the the Arctic circle that location was probably our most active in terms of land. Yeah. Rewarded activity. Well, yes. It really did most most the other locations couvert island was more food mostly came from the see it mostly came from from the water. You seem pretty comfortable Jordan that net you that blew my mind and then you like just making the fish happen at the end. So I you know I mean you know we're talking about terrestrial man. Shaken show everything. But definitely, there were some fish that we're a blast to catch. Yeah. Enjoyed the. So big. Guy You know like. vibeke. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. It was exciting fishing for sure everything's exciting because you're so dependent on it. It's like I couldn't. I couldn't buy. Lamborghini. Get that excited as I did just. Out of the water. But I think like what for you was like okay like the peak for me is excitement when I get some, you know something's going to support my survival here and the bottom of my emotional journey on this show is boredom i. think for many people though like it was maybe the bottom was going to dark place. I was like boredom is like where's the worst place but there's a place places below boredom you know that people I think were falling. Hard play like if you had a lot of elegance in your closet and issues to deal with like bad relationships and stuff like that. I think it would be a bad place in a bad way to go about working your way through them, i. Just You know I recommend someone going on the show like try to. Resolve your issues. Out there, you know don't even out there 'cause it's. Yeah. Because you think about those things even I don't have a ton of skeletons in my closet but I have. People that I would think about like man I don't keep in touch with. This person or that person and you just think. Yeah a dark dark. person than you are. Word Blinds I'm sure. That's interesting that you say that the show like you shouldn't look at it as a form of therapy because I never really thought of it. Like you have to go in kind of fully self realized otherwise you're going to be confronted with your demons all alone there in your cabin on on game. And it's GonNa get to eat away thirty according to your exactly. As. Well as some people some people at hits earlier, that's for sure but I mean, it's so true. You you you. You don't know and I think Jordan you amongst us here can can tell us what it's like but I think that moment. That you're dropped and the participant is standing there alone for the very first time and you know it's been a whirlwind right. David traveling we've we've done this boot camp. There's always people around there constantly in groups are constantly being monitored. Boob there dropped the helicopter flies away the boat pulls out, and then there is dead silence and a truly alone, and I think for many of the participant participants at hits like a ton of bricks you know you tell us. If the such a surreal experience because not you're just dropped. And and it just hard to imagine like Oh here I am with these few things and I gotta make a life here. You know like my and I'm not even in a place that I would choose. Your just dropped in some random spot next to a bush and your. Letting the West. And it is. It's pretty wild for me. Psychologically, the hardest part was the UH, not knowing when it would end I kind of you know. I think that was. I was. Not Knowing not knowing who else is out there you start I gotTa admit every time the helicopter flew somewhere I'd be running out on the lake or whatever looking like. That's gotta be. That's gotta be probably the like the thing that's thought about lease but the most maddening element is that there's there's no there's no finish line in sight there is a finish line, but you know where it is you never know how far away you are from season seven spoiler. But but you know like I if you were. If you had insight like it must miss change the game complete. American made it really hard for like even physically because you don't know how much are your food each day because you know if they're going be here six months that I, you know like if I just knew it was so long and I could just eat this whole Moose in this amount of time you just gorge yourself but if you Think man. This thing might have to stretch me through February. You know then you have to then you got a whole nother angle to even on how to eat you know what I'm saying. And that's one reason why I think that the show is so gripping is because it really does replicate as close as humanly possible like a survival situation where if you're if you're plane crashed and you were stuck in the middle of the Arctic Circle alone. Who might be years before your discovered or never like so so it replicates this scenario that you'll. You'd never have like when you had your five week Solo in Siberia you, there is an end in sight. Like, you knew how to get yourself out of that situation you know would alone does is it puts puts you in the situation where but then at the same time you've got that get out of Jail Free Card like you've always got the temptation which is. A of the satphone drive you insane to be like I can I can make this all end now, and if I don't, I'm here forever I have no idea what time it is a brilliant scenario to put people through. It is well, plan show and actually like the gearless that you get, it's kind of like a it's what you need to potentially be sustainable and live out there but it's no more than that in it's Kinda you know allow you like I do like the way it set up to filming yourself element Jordan for you was that like an health had do deal with this or was it like, thank God at least to have something to do. For me, it was an advantage or you're not an advantage, but I liked it more than when I was in Siberia with nothing Siberia I remember there's a point where I was out there like three weeks. Came into a beautiful area now just like, wow, that's beautiful and then I was like, oh My Voice, I have actually heard my voice. As it struck me whereas, of course on alone you're like talking to the camera feel like you're trying to interact with China, share it with people I did a lot of dumb skits the try to pass the time and try to like you know try to use it as a tool also in the use it to apply for SNL like your. You didn't. Jordan. If you didn't win this or some spoiler guys, Jordan wants. But if you didn't win the show, right would if you don it any way I definitely went out there with the goal to win I. GotTa Say I. Got it done all that stuff. Free and have done. Anything to prove like I. didn't feel like I was proving a lot to myself. A hidden thing I didn't even realize until I, got out there was that it was a really cool opportunity to show people that I You know care about this other side of me because all my friends and family in America haven't been to Russia with me. So they don't really see that aspect as much and so it was like this is a cool opportunity to be able to share that. Again, it was something I appreciated about the cameras but what I've done it anyway well, I definitely there were times right I don't know if this would be worth it if I don't win better, try to win. Were ups. Season seven Roland gets million, instead of half a million. I was waiting for the check from the history, channel? Man another couple weeks up, there would have been great to love. Roland is a bad. Ask you know him I don't know. We definitely knows it stuff. The thing about the filming aspect of it is you give people a fulltime job. Right survival is a fulltime job there that you're laying another full time job on top of a to do the same time. So filming and I'd love to know your perspective but my my take on it is it slows you way the hell down right as a survivalist definitely affects your bill. Yeah. I really you know it definitely slows you down it hasn't been as. Psychological could can be if you have the right perspective a psychological plus. But in general, it's a big drag on everything you're trying to do like you know right? It's the it's the give and take. Right. So the the what we're providing is this experience right this this platform this ability to to showcase your skills and and go out and survivor and create this this created environment by which you can actually test your skills in a way that you haven't done before. But the but the flip side is the trade off is you have to fill yourself right? That's the and and we're we're there on one end and you're there on the other but I'd say that people that find success on the show participants define find success leded, filming the way that you did Peter. Dissect it, and it's something that I say as part of my, you know one of my speeches before. Remember that that you wouldn't really necessarily believe you. You're just trying to get the film, but it's not true. But if you if you lead into it, if you lead into it as a positive thing, you look at it as a gift something to fill your time something to focus on something to put your hands to it'll take you further in the in in experience. Now, only a lot of people like if you talk to people, everybody's always saying man I would. What are people doing those idiots they should be out hunting and fishing in all the time, which is basically what I tried to do. But even if you try to do that, you're still in avid downtime and you're still going to like. You know no matter how hard you try to exclusively hunt fish and trap you're GonNa you'd like Jack said leaning into that will. Actually. Oddly enough. Helps and so like you look at, you know I can tell tell you season to season the people that filled and it also will the people that filmed the most. It they. They went a little bit further. There were people that were good. That didn't have any interest in filming. So they didn't feel much. They didn't end up on screen that much. You know we didn't. We didn't. We don't choose like I. You know it's pretty unbiased. This story dictates what makes it on on camera what what makes the final cut were weaving together different stories were balancing different participants but ultimately, it boils down to WHO's given us the most material to work with Zach I. It's something I wanted to compliment you on and and the other shows, producers and creators that is like. The hardest thing to me an unscripted television is is to resist the temptation to add stuff to to kind of produce it because you're sitting there and you're you're photographing capturing reality in you're waiting for something to happen and a lot of times people get a little nervous and they just throw something into the mix to make something happen artificially and obviously on a loan like that is completely taken out of the equation. To put all this money and effort into into something that is so tenuous the so fragile this idea that people would be shooting themselves, filming themselves, getting usable audio and video that you can make a show with like that trust in that faith in in like the the medium itself is really commendable and and you don't see that another shows like like like no matter what kind of survival shows or any kind of unscripted shows. There's always some kind of like little. Poking and prodding from behind the fourth wall and you really don't see that whatsoever in alone. It's relaxing. Yeah. They really don't have that. You know all. It's not like they're affecting anything while you're out there if anything that might tell you bill or something, but there's no like there's no setting up your you know this or that. They Act surprised those Zach almost seems like you could probably do I mean it seems like you guys must have tons of, but you guys I must so much good footage because it's like Just from my experience, it's like I I met had a total of an hour of airtime from seventy seven days and it's like there's a lot of stuff you could and they actually it's oddly impressive. How much they fit into that our you know like. Rice. They do a pretty good job of showing off of the cool things but there are still a lot of things that don't make an I imagine everyone has that they knew I one I don't like Jerry slider Nada. Directors cutter like Youtube stuff well so Those are conversations that are constantly being had with the exact history to you know a couple of points, their zero point Jay I give a lot of credit to the exact history channel for taking take Geena chance because. You truly don't know if you're going to have a series especially in early seasons. Footage to even fill out, you know a a season and in season one in particular, they dropped down to four people within the first week. People dropped out by day seven in season one and so spoiler alert of. ME. and. So it was oh my gosh what's going to happen, and then with each passing season, it became more and more apparent that we we'd be able to do it then from an editorial perspective. Input I mean there's an army of people right sifting through all the material to to to kind of figure out exactly. What's there? But the the producers story producers and editors I, give you know the utmost credit to it's challenged my. As storyteller in ways that I never thought possible in this in the in unscripted television we really had to rethink how we how we tell the stories and how we get there and take a lot of material that maybe audio is bad or the. Perfect and find snippets and piece it together in a way that doesn't seem contrived and and be is you know is accurate right? If it you know we may take you know official jump from day to and put it on shot from bay three, but we don't really stray too much. Off The reality and the time line that it actually happened and so to your point Jordan. There are things that hit the cutting room floor that are amazing but don't fit the time line. We could actually fit something from day twenty into a scene from day fifty, but it's at it's too far OUTTA. It's too far away and that's those are those are you know snow to doesn't look the same? Facial hair and weight loss and and things like that. That happened. But still especially with the women because there's no facial hair growing. You could Fultz with the timeline if we chose but we we truly. Want to make the most offensive series. Out there possible and so we don't. Really don't mess with the time line and so things the cutting floor if they if 'cause we only focus on a handful of people per episode, something great was happening with this person. And we we try to find a place to put it in but if it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit hits it hits the. See, the way today I love you guys resist the temptation because because again like you might have this great scene and the camera work is out of focus and you can barely see what's happening. You relied on the audio instead. But like but what you don't do is you don't fall into the temptation of like shooting a pickup shot or or or trying to make the. Introduced some kind of artifice into the whole equation, and honestly when I first heard about the show I thought I'm not going to like this show because it's shot by amateurs and it's it's gotta be horrendous to watch like you just just as a director and cinematographer on a technical basis but it really was not an even when the the footage is is is messy in raw and kind of fucked up quote unquote I loved. I loved that you resisted the temptation to make it make the quality better and tell the story differently with fake visuals. Because as soon as you do that, the whole thing collapses on itself like as soon as you introduce like. For instance if if the came down from the from the tower and it said, it said, we need to have like a funny challenge where roll barrels up the hill and they get a negative sack full of rice. You know if if they're successful I mean immediately that would just deflate the entire show like just adding anything artificial I. Love the fact that you you maintain purity and in that respect, it makes a big difference. From from the journey, the audience goes on with the show and the the investment the audience puts into it go. Well, thanks. I mean that's it. Is I. Think it is one of the things that makes it. So special we that balance because we do have camera operators that are out there shooting our Biro right, the beauty shots and those interstitial. So but the balance between that material and what the participants are filming think heightens both. Right. So you truly see you see this beauty. Beauty that studying and then you immediately know once you've transitioned over, know what those aerial shots and land on George site as a viewer. Okay. The POV's been handed back to the participant I'm on the ground with them and I'm seeing life through their lens. And if you know if they're horizon line is off, offer their filming themselves, you can't see their head it adds to the it adds to the authenticity I mean one of my favorite moments of the series. Like a history of the series is the night you went after that Wilbur Jordan. And you had that camera knee length and it was you know it was an I r that night vision and When I saw the raw footage I was looking at it at our base camp and. It was like a horror film it was. You could I in my mind this is going to be the best seen ever when it's edited because if it's this compelling. Tilley put some music behind it and we you know we edited. Little Bit. You walked off with your acts into the darkness and you were off Ca- off camera. Mad and you just hear the audio of what you're doing with this woven. Exactly. One of my biggest regrets that I didn't grab the camera and of course, it's in the moment magic, but he probably wouldn't have hilas show it honestly, but I don't know. And murder. Back. Very simple but. A storyteller it was. It was amazing and it just was so compelling. It was so real. It's so raw that to your again back to your point. Jay It. Those are hard moments to capture in any other way and in an ironic way or unexpected way it's very cinematic because like. Cinema in in movies sometimes you don't show is even more vibrant because then. You don't show the the act of violence. Audience creates that picture in their head and so it maintains the legitimacy of the scenario, which is like you just put the camera on the ground and then went to go hunt the Wolverine you left frame and we hear the audio and we illustrate all the visuals in our head and again activates the audience's imagination I. Mean it's it's like Blair witch project all over exactly. Moment, of television I haven't had that holy cow. Like with the Moose and stuff I was just one of the most exciting days in my life up and down but the wolverine was just like something. Picking to something else it was like primal like. You know film and all this happened and then you just think back. Wow. Let us APP that was crazy crazy. Because it was coming, it was coming for your food right? It was it was primal because it was it was about survival. He hid set the parameters that it was like either meet your him on that. Basically. He was AP after. Poor Guy, what do they call it? Apparently, they call it skunk bear. Mountain Devil I was reading an article about National Geographic. Mountain Devil you killed him out and devil Jordan. Annoy. You guys are busy. So we're GONNA start wrapping up here I was GonNa ask you Zach what is the closest you come in your life to living? The survivalists living since survival in the wild wilderness. So I think Jordan I there's a place that has sort of captured my imagination early on it was East Africa So Time Kenya Tanzania about a year so in my twenties and lived with. A bunch of various tribes there. And I spent. I don't know. They'll probably thirty day stretches. At, various times WH- studied archaeology that's what my degrees and so I was doing a dig down in southern Kenya off. And I spent probably. Thirty five forty days there. But again, we we had some relative relative support. But I'd say that was probably the. The longest stretches for me, but that's what got me into I. Want Him but I wanted to feel I ran into a film crew from National Geographic out there, and that's how I kind of caught the bug of wanting to get into the side of things. You been doing it ever since really do you go crazy camping likely no supplies I your own version showed. You, subject yourself same. Scenario obviously level. I would never ever Deign to put myself on the level of these these folks the participants but I've picked up a skill here and there and I, you know building building some shelters in the woods behind the House with my girls and you know I just went out with my my youngest just before this call actually we were hauling. Holland into blogs and we're going to you know build build stuff in the garage. But so yeah, we're we're out there I do a little weekly survival school. Now that we're doing home, you know homeschooling. So I take two hours once a week and take him out in the woods that we work on. Fire building or shelter building whatever whatever it is. Great. I feel like Youtube, guys I mean most zagged but also Jordan for your becoming celebrity of sorts is like you guys kind of inspired a lot of people to connect to nature like. Before we wrap things up. I just want to say one thing which is I think the the show like. Is such an important show to the history of cinema and film. It's not just like an entertaining. TV Show I mean like I was telling Zach in an email. Weeks ago that that you know I have a degree in film theory. Well that's what they studied in colleges like film theory where it's like, you know you watch films and you apply these kind of you know kind of heading cloud theories about everything and like one thing that that the world of of of academia cinema academia has been exploring is this idea of cinema verite and so like through documentary, how can we truly be truthful in documentaries and you know like like what constitutes truth and and I think alone needs to be studied by film school because it's The only time that there has ever been true cinema verite we. which is like a as close to A. Objective view on reality. Now, of course, it's not completely pure because you're using cameras and using. Sound in you're pointing the cameras you're using editing you're telling the story but like there's something about what what alone does, which is it gets into the psychology of human beings like like like the experience of human beings like no one ever has. Just like the, it's like you're getting a view into someone's subconscious and psyche because because they're talking to the camera as if they're they're thinking aloud if that makes sense but I just want to say I think it's a really important work of art and it needs to be studied. Film. Theorists need to write books about it. I mean it's really something special and unique and I think you guys for for for bringing it to us and I think individually like it. Especially, during this very rough year on many people, it undeniably has been. Like associating with the hero and you know taking on this hero's journey and a you know having transformation and Catharsis as A. Very ancient Greek sense of like coming out cleaner and may be happier the end because it is sort of like a psychedelic trip in the sense that like you, you really feel like you've been through the rough rough times with these people as you watch it and because you know it's real. So I for many people, they have very deep feelings about the show. So thank you both for. Making it what it is to all of us it's truly special. You should be very proud of it. I appreciate that so much. I really do. Thanks so much for saying that Jordan it's so good to to see you Glad every will well yeah man and likewise, this will be fun to meet up sometime. Absolutely let's get it together I'm in. Thank you so much for listening to this. If you want to check out our previous episode about TV show alone, one of them is an interview with nicotine shined all of season six, check them out on our podcast feed anywhere. You get your podcasts and hey, why don't you subscribe to this podcast? Maybe give it a rating on apple and Follow on. INSTAGRAM. We don't do a lot of things on the ground, but it might be helpful to sometimes to check in with. Always have something new cooking and all kinds of ECLECTIC. Coming up so just Follow us on twitter and Instagram at shut out by loved one. 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"The following program is brought to you by your friends at podcast. One. The arrest. Cruise poker poker bravery, in one and only famous Perez. It'd be Perez Hilton. HP guys welcome to the PHP Booker. He has Peres. How're you doing? Man? I'm I'm. I don't even know what the word is, but there is. There was, oh, let me see. Hold on. Okay. Oh, damn it. No. There was big, breaking news threat before we started over recordings. So I'm like stressed about this 'cause I would've loved to have gotten the news out, but you know, it can wait. I've got this to do. I'll get to the breaking news later on in the show, but I thank you to everybody who gave us positive reviews on itunes. There were so many of you at the end of this episode. I'm going to verbally give you all shoutouts as I said, I would do so thank you. There was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten of our listeners who did that. So really appreciate you. All I'm well had a fun issue. We get end. I felt like I lost a day. They're like, my Saturday was all work. Basically I did this web show, which was cool. I was really happy to support fellow Latinos and especially a fellow Cuban who was commiserating with me about. A shared experience. This creator, she's an actress, but also producer and a writer is Cuban, but fair skinned and blue eyed. So it's proven difficult for her here in Los Angeles to get cast in Latino roles. So she took the bull by the horns that they said and created this web series for her. So I was happy to be a part of that. And then I had to go to this event on Saturday night where I was given a bullshit award, which I didn't even mention when I did a post from the party because it was such bullshit award. Okay. Well, what was the award? It was some LGBT visibility award or whatever that they made up from like fake. I don't even know what the hell the organization was or whatever. You basically got an award for being gay and they're, yeah, basically. Cool, whatever that it's kinda sucked because that was my entire day. And I also I feel parental guilt that thankfully my mom's up to the plate and took him to the park and then to come to my sister's house. So I appreciate my mom for that. And then Sunday I made up for it someday took my kids to the beach and we had a beach day and it was super fun pedigree time. How was your weekend? Good. I was off Friday because I had like oral surgery. Oh, right one of my teeth. I'm all stitched up. I've got stitches in my mouth. So Friday was kind of like a day off, but I didn't. You know what I mean? It wasn't like one of those fun days off. I got to do anything with it except for you know, go to the dentist than the pharmacy. I've been cranky all weekend because of it, but I did go to see the eagles on Saturday night might never seen before and what a, what a phenomenal show that was. I saw that you had to go to the forum. Yeah, that's the worst part hate it. I know I hate going, these shows there. I didn't drive. If you don't drive, it's not as bad. The show was great. It was really wild. Seeing Glenn fries. Kid deacon who sounds exactly like his dad filling in for his dad harmonizing. They're just all phenomenal. Musicians was the average age. There sixty five. You know, it's the eagles. So you kind of they're kind of like the Beatles of of America. No way. I only know one of their songs hotel, California, first of all, you know, a thousand? Okay. Take it easy. Take eighty taking. Oh, Peresce. Don't the greatest hits. Album is the best selling album of all time desperate. Oh, you've never heard of desperado. I heard desperado, right? There's two songs. There's fifty more that you're familiar with icon ick acts, like I know all of Fleetwood MAC's catalog. I was just never drawn to or familiar with the eagles. Maybe if you mentioned more, I honestly cannot think of anyone other than the hotel California song lying is you don't know. Yohn lie. You don't know that's on there were people much younger than shows, and there would be people much younger than me at Fleetwood. MAC says, good music is good music. Well, yeah, Fleetwood MAC is more the American Beatles than the eagles. I think no. Yeah. Women on. What is take it easy. So you really don't know. That's all. I don't know that one. I met the old diamond. Listen, I know my music. I can't tell you why one of the greatest ballads ever I. Hear their catalog right now. All right, let's move on a great concert, but I stand behind what I said. They don't have a lot of awareness for people under forty. I see it with people under forty. I'm only forty. Anyways, the breaking news that I found out about just before we started recording is that Julie Chen will not be returning to the talk. I am surprised that she stayed with him. I said that she would, and I also said we'd never see her on the talk again. And I said, we would see her on the finale of big brother and then she'll be done with that show after that. No, no. According to reports, she is staying with big brother but is leaving the talk. Why would she leave the talk then? Because she's going to be a hypocritic she stays on it because it just complicates things for Riecke of reasons. Since last week I've heard. And actually I was surprised a publicist even went on the record saying that if Julie Chen remains on the talk, he would steer his clients away from a blah. They're really, yeah. Celebrity publicists went on the record saying. That other also advertisers had cooled temporarily on their according to what I read, and it just would make things difficult for her as we've discussed to talk about sexual harassment and things like that on that show which are topics they do discuss their on nickel show so, but what surprised me if it turns out to be true is how this is all playing out. Like I said, she's expected to remain with big brother, but his departing the talk. I thought they would give her a bond voyage, which I think she deserves. She's been with that show almost an entire decade. Since the very beginning, the plan is for her to announce her departure Tuesday morning, the videotape message and then not return at all. Wouldn't it be hypocritical of the show if they gave her a big party Bon voyage, no. Why would that be critical? She's the woman that said before that if she was married to Harvey Weinstein, she would leave him. Okay. Well, it turns out she in some people's 'cause I don't know what happened. I have no idea what happens, but okay. Well, she called for someone else to leave. Now she's not doing that. It would kind of drag down the show if they're going to celebrate her for sticking with it. I think that's why they're going to go with the videotape message because it's critical. If they were a big party, it might be a critical. But at the same time, I think that she is deserving of you can not be used as you have to be perfect. Yes. So it is a little hypocritical. But having said that, like I said, she's she's been the moderator. She's been an integral part of that show for ten years, and I would have given her a Sunday off personally, but whatevs onto other news, there were reports and then conflicting reports. And now we appear to have breached a consensus as to what happened. Justin Bieber married or not married. It turns out he did get married to Haley Baldwin, even though she tweeted and. Then later deleted the she was not married. Apparently she said that because she doesn't consider herself married 'cause she's not married under the eyes of the Lord. Yet they've only had a civil marriage, not a religious marriage that was that just to get the process of him being an American citizen going, or did you think that even had anything to do with it? I'll get to that. I don't think that had anything to do with it. I don't know why they got they got married so quickly. I think I think just because bieber's beeper and he wants when he wants and he's impatient, that's my theory on it. And I actually see these people lasting four years or more four years. Yeah, because I think he wants to get at least two kids out of her. So even if they're going through a rough patch here, there he won't cheat. I don't think he'll cheat because he's so God squad. And if they're going through a rough patch, you'll stick it out 'til baby number two. And then he'll be done with her. We'll the or not only four at least I didn't say. I'm giving them for years. I said at least four, at least four years. Okay. That's pretty good in Hollywood for young people. Yeah. Sources say though that she's not pregnant, so that's not why they got married and I called this word. I called this one. They do not have a pre-nup. Yes, you did. Oh, man, it's going to be messy. So yeah, you mentioned briefly, the Justin Bieber is going through the process of becoming an American citizen. I'm confused by this. What does he get out of being an American citizen? Like what are the benefits to him? Like, why? What? Why become an American citizen? I think it's just why not have dual citizenship, but what does he get out of having dual citizenship? I don't get it. It may be tax related or not. I don't think it is because he spends most of his time here. So he needs to pay taxes here and pay taxes there. It's not like he's going to be giving up his Canadian citizenship. He's not, you'll cert. Yeah. Maybe it's also like if he's an American citizen and he ever gets in trouble with the law. Again, they can't kick him out because he's an American citizen. Well, there's that there's that. Yeah, speaking of Bieber, his manager scooter. Braun was a guest on a podcast recently and he was talking about how he thought Justin Bieber back in two thousand and fourteen was going to die from an overdose gas. I saw that I was shocked that he said that first of all, is it even his place to say that, like it's not like he's his former manager. He's still working as manager like he could have just said, I was really concerned for him back then. And if pressed, I could've said he was hanging out with bad people like he didn't even have to. Why did you mentioned like that to me was surprising that was not his story to tell in my opinion that also just it was it was a bad management decision. I see what you're getting at. I think he also was just being truthful in on this can be truthful. And honest without being that truthful and honest, but he didn't need to say that word overdose like that just to me was bad management anyways. Well, this is probably not that much of interest to our listeners, but it's of interest to me scooter. Braun is in broiled in a nasty lawsuit with lady Gaga x manager. Troy Carter, this is so insider scooter has sued Troy for millions of dollars claiming that scooter lent Troy mummy and Troy them pay it back and they're now both making damning allegations against each other, each one calling each other, a liar, and it's just like a wild. Before we go any further, tell everybody who's back sun basket is back with the Perez Hilton podcast. So many of you have told me that you have signed up for sun basket and that it has made a big difference sun basket is the. Best meal delivery program out there. It will simplify being healthy for you ate my entire box in two days because I made one for lunch, one for dinner and the next one for dinner. I had these these sausage skewers that were really great. And they had a chicken salad, which I thought that was just perfect for launch put together. What was my third meal of the coconut shrimp? How could it forget that? 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I cannot believe you. I wasn't gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. And then you said this man literally tried to murder Meagher. Idiot, right? Like don't dig. I understand you're shaking up and this and that, but don't exaggerate it to that point because it discredits you, the timing of it. All is also incredibly suspect. Tom Arnold has a new TV show that premiers this week. And when he I was tweeting about everything made sure to mention that his TV show premieres this week. It seems to me that this was a media stunt that he had been planning all along to confront in a big way, Mark Burnett. And then Mark Burnett, perhaps got afraid that he was going to attack his wife. I don't even know what the hell and one thing led to another and they just got crazy. But Tom Arnold is taking it seriously and he is going or has already gone to the LAPD to file some kind of police report against Mark Burnett. But let me tell you something. This is where this is a case of. Dr Luke and Kesse. If I'm Mark Burnett. Now, Mark Burnett has more money than Tom Arnold will ever make in his lifetime. Mark Burnett has more money than Roseanne will never make in our lifetime. Mark, Brad also created survivors. So many franchises survivor. He's literally one of the top ten richest people in this town. I bet gap now go with me. Okay. I'm Mark Burnett. And let's say that Tom Arnold totally fabricated this and made false allegations against me and pulled that stunt against me. If Tom Arnold did that made this negations and even file a fucking police report, I would use all of my money to ruin him. I would bankrupt the motherfucker. I would not settle out of court. I would put him in financial ruin like, I'm just shocked that. I mean, I'm not shocked at Tom. Ronald created the scene, but to just get to this level to say that he tried to murder him to then go actually. File a police report and continue with this nonsense? Well, look, he's been on the media tour for a while and he's out there alleging a lot of different things, especially about the president stuff, and he's trying to drum up all of this interest through wacky things, and he's a little out there. Now we gotta remember this guy was married to Roseanne. Yeah, crazy attracts crazy. Exactly. And that's where we probably should leave it. The guy is nuts. He's a wack chop and he's playing whack job game. He may get burn when you when you screw as someone of Mark Burnett caliber. And like you said, wallet, that wallet could that wallet can put you down forever. If you better call him, I told you, I would. I would snap boss. To squash him like I would move on and off that fucking tool. But he took it to the next level by alleging attempted murder by following a police report. That's next level to me, but I love crazy, white dude's gun nuts, and he's not the only one. This story is to Larry as to me speaking of classic musicians, Paul McCartney in a new interview revealed that back in the day he and John Lennon used to masturbate together on more than one occasion. That's weird. Okay. That's not something that straight men do together regularly. That's something to gay men would probably do together. No, no, it's not. It's not never done that before. Never been in a round with a couple of other dude. Now, no way, gay men have the capacity. And this happens far freak more frequently, a lot of gay men that have friendships previously either dated or hooked up. But now they're just friends like I'm not going to just start jerking off in a room of my friends. I can't imagine a scenario where I'm just pulling my Wang out in front of anyone in front of a girl. How about that? I don't think that there's a situation where I would say, I'm going to get this out and I'm going to masturbate. Intimate with a girl, I wouldn't do that. So the whole thing's mind blowing to me. All right. I just wanted to know if that was common or not. I look, I've heard of the term circle jerk before. And I, I think all straight guys even have their little towel snapping incidents of of things when you around other young boys and you're trying to figure it out this painting thing you have and you're talking about girls, I get that. I mean, I get it, I guess, but I just can't imagine doing it. That's all I was in a student film. Once about that subject, the. The name of the movie was okay, cookie. I was funny as it was me and these two other guys in the student film and one of the other guys ended up being gay to anyways. Well, you say the guy that wrote it gave for sure because he wrote it just because he wanted to see the scene and he wanted to see if anybody would pull out there Wang and actually be. I totally it. Why wouldn't look if I was going to write a movie right now? You think I would write nudity in it. Got there, right? I would, and I'd be like, I wanna Scarlett. Joe type want wanna get her naked. Well, thankfully. Oh, God. Fuck man. What I'm having people Email tweet me and everything about Julie Chen, but this is good. Oh, I fucking Spencer practices to our podcast. I'll good. Hey, Spencer he just tweeted me in response to a TMZ story about Julie Chen, which I fucking should have put out there because I heard about the four teams e. tweeted about it in Spencer was like, you called this on your new podcast episode. I wonder if I should mention matter. It's so late. No one cares anyway, he's in bad the east coast in bed. I care. All right. Speaking of old white men, Woody Allen and his wife. Soon ghee were interviewed and the new issue of New York magazine now, and this is another case of the, it all comes back to the eagles. I do think that Woody Allen has more awareness than the eagles. Do with younger audiences. Like I only knew of Don Henley I would not have mentioned or known of Glen fray if. Yeah, because I remember when when he died, you didn't know his name. You thought was fray remember that. Oh, we talked about that on the podcast we did when he died, you mentioned his name. I said, it was fry. Well, anyways, this story, I think. Duggar people care about or know about or familiar with it was trending all over social media. Did you read that article? Probably I did was I get. I read it this afternoon and I did. I read it at work today. I was so bored. First and foremost. This article was written by a person who is not objective in the slightest. This woman I think was female. Writer is friends with Woody Allen and has not just any casual acquaintance or friend. They've been friends for four decades. She said, I'm like, what kind of fucker is that like this is major bullshit. I'll say this and I can say this because she's not a victim soon is not a victim even though some people might say that, you know this guy who was a father figure having a sexual relationship with her was totally inappropriate. Even though he was not her adoptive father. And even though he was not married to me, pharaoh because he's not a victim, I will totally say, I think she's a fucking liar that soon be. Let me. Oh yeah, I just think there's two sides to every story. And as I read that story, I'll go back to what I said. The very first time we talked about this. It's a family issue. I don't think it needs to be hashed out in the press like this person did this. This person did that the end of the day, Mia affairs an actress. And I think all actors and actresses are crazy. I think they're all nuts. And when I'm reading this article, remember reading SUNY, talk about her and her recollections. I'm like, she doesn't sound like the mom of the year to me. Well, that's one of the wildest things to me. She in vivid details soon. Ye was talking about her life and career at five years old. I'm like really bits. You remember that much fucking five first memories I have are when I turned six. I remember my sixth birthday party prior to six. I don't remember a damn thing. Not even looking at photos. I'm like, I don't remember anything before. I don't know what right there with. And not only that. She also found it very telling and disturbing that she would tell the energy the interview, or I don't even want to call her journalists. He would tell the interviewer or one thing, and then later Email her something else in and changing the story up that happened repeatedly throughout the article did. I'm like, that's what kind of this is all bullshit. And forty islands fucking full of shit too. In my opinion, I just can't sit there and judge. I don't know what really happened. Does it seem wacky to me know for sure, but I don't know what how that's putting it mildly. Well, you're running of wacky news, Richard Gere and I'm talking about so many old white men. Exactly. This is the white man Shino old white male, male young Cordell. She'd soon I started out on. I started off Bieber, but you went on such a tirade on the fucking eagles. Jesus Richard Gere sixty nine years old is going to be a father again. Is that too old? To the hack, not when you're rich. Yeah, but it's not even about money. It's about the fact that he might be dead and fifteen years. So what the kids going to lose their dad and highschool that sucks. Most people are going to lose their dad. Anyhow, it happens some point in your life. It's terrible, I'm sure, but statistically most aren't going to die when you're in high school. Richard Gere could live to a hundred. Well, I hope so. I, you know, he's got more money than God if he keeps himself in good shape and hopefully doesn't get the cancer or something like that, but you never know. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. Weird. I think you got that kind of money and you got somebody that you love and wants to raise the kid and all right. I don't know person see what you're saying though. It doesn't really seem fair to the kid. Yeah, I'm sorry. I would rather have fifteen years as Richard Gere is my dad, some. That's the bum that I had the bums floral that I had raising me. So there you go personally for me, MC my rule that I think my thing is passed sixty. You really shouldn't. But that's up to you clearly, you know, he gets you still producing sperm, so good for him. Congratulations. Speaking of white dude. Henry Cavill not so old may. Out of superman, no longer playing him, and it might have to do with money or that may be one of the many issues to me. That's just stupid. If your peeps are asking for too much money to be superman, any of those people are making a ton of money like just take what they give you. I think also speaking of money and celebrities. All these people making such a to do over Madonna flying coach on a flight who cares. Maybe it was the only seat available. She didn't want to make a big fuss and I'll sit there no big deal. And then so brute, somebody took a photo of themselves in front of Madonna when she was sleeping. Oh, now that's an asshole move. Yes, that's an invasion of privacy orally, not cool onto some celebrity feuds. Apparently this was so petty, Marc Jacobs, the fashion designer for the last decade wouldn't always close out fashioned week. His fashion show was always the last one, but in this fashion week that just happened reorganised schedule the fashion show to end fashion week, and Mark ticket was not happy with that. So he and his fashion show. We're supposed to start at six pm. The riana fashion show was supposed to start at seven thirty pm. The riana fashion show was in Brooklyn and Marc Jacobs, fashion show was in Manhattan proper, and he did not start his fashion show. Show until seven thirty pm. So any fashion editors or VIP's who's thought they could make it to both at some point had to choose because he started an hour and a half late. Let me ask you a normal person questions. So when Riyan does one in it's in Brooklyn, is that considered like off Broadway where it's not really part of fashion week or his fashion week, kind of just everywhere. Now, fashion week is everywhere. I mean, okay. There are the tents and the tents are where most of the fashion shows are, but the houses have fashion shows anywhere and everywhere. Okay. Yeah. Okay. They just have these tents because it's if you're a smaller brand or you're showing for the first time it's cheaper for you to do it there and easier and to get people there that are already going to be there all that jazz. I just thought that was funny. It's not a bad look for riana to do that now. No. Okay. I'm just asking. I don't know. I don't know if it's like such a big deal that Marc Jacobs has to do the last one every year like she's kind of new in the game, and it's kind of it's kind of like in bad taste or bad form to upstage. Someone that's obviously been in the game for so long and is revered in the industry, I guess. True. True. But she ended up getting more publicity than any other show out there. Look, I didn't see a lick of his fashion show. I saw most of hers, neither speaking of celebrities fielding. This is just so silly and I love it last week, Kim Kardashian posted a few photos of her from this new fashion campaign for some product. She's trying to sell. I forget fucking fragrance or makeup or some crap the k- and it was her wearing flowers making. And then three days after that Paris Hilton posted an image of her wearing flowers. And made sure in the caption to say something along the line. Let me read you the caption verbatim. She said, love these photos. I shot last year. I have to say I did it. I bet. But you know all of those photos. I mean, you could say that that movie American Beauty. They did something very similar before that to everybody's always ripping off everybody, but I love her. I mean, wasn't beyond say's covered, didn't she have a floral thing on her head or something to that effect? I mean, couldn't you say it started with beyond, say a few months ago that she brought the flowers back in vogue? I mean, you can always point back to something else in history if somebody else that's done it before. Right? I mean, but it is, but you're right. It is Patty Paris and I love it. That's what she should do. She should just troch him Kardashian for the rest of her life, and I would follow that. I would think that's funny. I'm on team Paris, I think because she's, oh, gee. To me, I'm on team. Neither of them. You just one team and your team and different. Serena Williams continues to deny that she received any at the US open top one. And she gave a new interview where she said he said he made a motion. I don't understand what he was talking about. We've never had hand signals. I just don't understand, said Serena in an interview. So that's just a little update on what we talked about last week. Also. I don't know if we've talked about Melby last week if it was the week before, but her former Manny. Her male mammy says that she had a constant rotation of men in the house strangers with her kids there for sex sessions. She claims really five hours sessions, and I ran into her in the grocery store wants to, I probably could like struck up a conversation and got myself on that list. He literally says, quote, there was like three guys. In a day, and I'm crying on five hours sessions with each one because the guy goes, you know, I talked to the guys and they're like, I can't go anymore. And then another one would come in and another guy. That's just awful. Like, listen, I get it, you have needs or wants or desires, but you're rich enough, get a hotel room or go to their house like, don't do that in that place with kids. There God knows what they're going to see and they did see according to this Manny, they would see shirtless guys and the kitchen or sometimes naked men. And if that is true, that's really shitty parenting an update on that new, bachelor Colton. Underwood. He according to reports is open to losing his virginity on the shows car. Hope it happens Jesus. I don't believe season. I don't believe it. I think they're just saying that so people tune in and they don't think it's going to be done of a season. I'm looking forward to it. I like the guy and I look, I think he's gonna get down with one of these chicks are so hot. They parade like thirty hot chicks out to him and he gets and they all want him already. There's no way as little bone is going to be able to put up with that for a whole season. There's no way no way. Courtney card dash. Ian was spotted out with a twenty year olds model on a date coal. She likes them young here is another thing where somebody called me out for being a hypocrite and I was like, well, I kind of own at your right. I kind of am you know, I said that she's a cougar, go cougar? When I talked about it, she's thirty nine, the guy's twenty. And then people were like, well, why don't you feel the same way about Dane cook and his girlfriend? Dane cook is forty six and he's dating nineteen year old. That just feels like twenty-five years versus nineteen years. It feels like a difference to me. I think it's just something to society does Geise creeps and you when you see a guy with that's really old with a really young girl, you think he's kind of creep. But when a girl does it to a young guy, there's not the same connotation. You just think the guy's lucky, you know, you're like, oh, he's the bag. The older Kardashian sister, great coal know. I don't know. You don't really think anything bad of it. I don't think badly either one of them, but I see what you're saying. I mean, I don't know if it's hypocritical or rather like your explanation of it. We're, we're just protecting young women. Yeah, you're protecting young women. That's what we're doing. 'cause guys, listen guys are freaking creepy. I mean, Jesus, have we not establish that this decade guys creepy. We always have been by the way. Now everybody just wants to talk about in more TV news Brody Jenner has officially signed on to star in the hills reboot. So I'm even more excited for that. Now. Also, Roseanne has revealed that her character dies of an opioid overdose on the Connors, the spin off to rose on. That's how the show ended last season two because she was sneaking Dan's pills. How did she even find out like coup told there who why. I would I would. I totally would reveal that secret of ours her because she's butthurt. But why would anybody tell her. That happened in more TV related news, former sitcoms star kearse. The alley says in a new interview that John Travolta cannot be gay because they were in love with each other. Are they both Scientologists? They are. And also, I mean a low there were there's been many gay men that have married women fathered children with women, and we're still gay a this though. You know, whenever I read stories about other countries and what's going on over there makes me so happy. I live in America. Do a leap was performing in Shanghai. China and a couple of concert goers from her show were kicked out for waving rainbow flags. That's so lame, so lame. I mean, still in so many places in the world, it's criminal to be gay. Jesus. Also, speaking of China fan Bing Bing, she's one of the biggest female actresses in China, and she started x. men previously has gone missing and many things. She's. -ducted by the Chinese government or something over tax evasion? I think she's hanging out with Jesse camp. That's crazy. She's in his living room wherever that is also speaking of crazy news. Did you know that in South Korea, k pop stars are basically forbidden from dating, and if they do that, the dates secretly really, you could get fired from your job in a boy band or girl group if you're publicly dating. Yeah. But why would you wanna be in a boy band or girl band if you couldn't date somebody. I mean, that's the whole idea of getting in a band. I was reading that these two stars might get fired recently because they were outed as being in a relationship totally sucks. I'm trying to think of me as fourteen years old and some manager comes up to me. I'm good looking and stuff and they say, hey, we want to put you into this boy band and I'll be like, I don't know. I don't wanna play the shitty music, but if you sit there and go, well, I can have some sex with fans. Okay. I would probably reconsider. But if you're taking that out of the element and you just have to play that shitty music all the time, what's the point of being one of those groups. Some health news. Matthew Perry reveals that he spent three months in a hospital bed after having a gastro, intestinal perforation Gs a hole in his stomach. Basically, that's just what three months in a hospital, but that's wild. But, hey, he's alive and I don't even want to speculate on what may have caused that. But all it matters runs. I don't want to speculate, jeez, he's had so many problems with drugs that he has talked about on the record. Numerous times when you take these hard core drugs, these pills, especially eat right through your stomach lining. So I don't think I'm talking out of school if I'm guessing that's what it might be looking, maybe eight attack I have, no. But if I had to guess, I would say probably it has something to do with it, but I don't know, obviously. Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy. And finally could. And this and things on a positive or wax thing. Okay. Christy Teagan much like Arianna grandee. We, we, we, this pronouncing thing Kristie tcans last name, the correct pronunciation of Chrissy teigen's last name is Tiga n- Chrissy Tuygan. All right. Yeah, it's just one of those things where Teagan sounds cooler riana sounds cooler than reanimate. I know, but reanalyze how you the proper pronunciation Rina's real name is Robyn. So that's a made up name so we can pronounce it anyway. I think a her middle name fan teaser, middle offense. Her last name. Oh, I see. I thought Riano was completely made. Oh, that's her middle name. Oh, I thought Fendi was her middle name. So Fendt he's our last night guess. Okay. So is that this respectful of us if we don't call her by the way she calls herself or how she wants to be called no disrespectful because I think it's more of a dialect thing, like some people Theresa. Some people say in America, we say, Teresa, some people say, Teresa, they pronounce it. Differently in different places. I think it's just more of a dialect. Let me tell you though. The one thing that would always great. My I would correct people like, you know, my birth name is m. a. r. i. o. Mario and span audio Montiel in Spanish. But if somebody ever called me Mary. Oh, no, it is not Mary. Oh, really? Oh yeah. That's a very northeast thing. Mareo northeasterners very New York. Yes. Mary. Mareo what's up? Mario, I can tolerate Mario, we get under his skin. People. It just sounds so bad to my ear mareo. Oh, God, I hate trauma from my child. No, no, no. All right. Let's take some calls here. We go. Hi, hi Boca. This is TR from Boston. My question is more of a theory and I wanted your opinion on it. I know that it was breaking news about Justin Bieber marrying Haley, but and then she went and sent down to tweet thing that it wasn't true even though it looked like what it did, but then the following day was actually released. That just been beaver, became a US citizen. So my theory is, is that he did marry Haley in order from to get his citizenship faster because that's what a lot of people do here in Boston, and then maybe they are indeed buried and they did that in order to get them ship. Well, that's my thought. I just wanted to know what your opinion is on it. All right, thanks. Love the podcast. She got it. We gave the by the way you don't become an American city. Zain. As soon as you marry an American citizen, he's still has to go through the process. It's going to be probably what two to three years. I think it takes before you can become an official citizen and you still have to do things. It's the first step. It's a lot easier obviously, but he didn't wake up an American citizen two days ago or whenever he got married, he's not one yet another call, hey, what's up Booker prize from office in jersey. I wanted to talk to you guys about Cardi b. n. Nikki with. And if you still thought indicate the one that came out winner in a situation, if you follow hip hop at all in the last couple of years, you'll know that NICKY has been kinda talking shit about and rapper since the jump. I'm gonna I birth month there with ten down little Tim show in after a bunch of people. 'cause Cardi b. Burma. Well, let's suppose on, but I wanted to see if you guys don't felt like she came out the winner after come out all the things that she was doing five. It sounds like she's skating. I mean, I'll podcast still thinks it came out the one. In that situation? I still, I think that as well, that's not how you behave now. Has she been a winner all of the time in the past? No, she's really done some terrible things and behaved badly. But what if. Tom permitting lake, Pennsylvania, relatively new listener. Oh, wow. The grand comment podcast and listening to for about a year and a half. Now my only comment would be we we got let comment than on Kardashian Jenner news. He gets old. This would be so much better because you very little about them and maybe a little bit more about them country music artists, like hearing underwent my favorite. I thanks love the podcast. Talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Talked about. Carrie Underwood in my daily video today, but you know, I don't. I don't talk about everything that I talk on my daily videos and the podcasts because something's just sets quick newsy things. And also it was a bummer. I was talking about how Carrie Underwood revealed that she suffered three miscarriages of the last two years. So it's just really made me. You know, it just reminded me of truly just how much miracle every single baby is. Some people are really lucky and get pregnant really easily, but then for many others, it's very hard. And so many women don't talk about it for variety of reasons. But yeah, I love Carrie Underwood. I love her new album. It's so good. I haven't heard it. It's so good. She co wrote a lot of it. She worked at the new with new people on it. It's I think our best album ever. It's very, it's very pop, mainstream crossover, which I love. What about this song. Dolly Parton song. What about the best of my love. That is all. Fame. Well, there you go. Everybody take it easy. All right. Let me just take a moment to thank Jill Crosby this Perez Hilton. Jill Crosby. If amazing, I also want to thank Roxie girl. Roxie girl is a superstar. I'm Perez Hilton. I know a lot about superstars a huge. Thank you also to Blanca or blankita. Mt l. Balanga they get a Mutuel beast, sue bullshit. 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#1984 Inventor of the Infomercial and The Original Shark on Shark Tank

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46:38 min | 11 months ago

#1984 Inventor of the Infomercial and The Original Shark on Shark Tank

"Hey, their freedom fighters. My name is Andrew Warner on the founder Mixer g where I interview entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses. I've been reading this guy's books for years I've been following his work. I'm not a sports guy before we started this interview Kevin, who who just one what did they win all my goodness. Okay. So I'm I'm I'm a sports fan the Tampa lightning just one game five of the playoffs of what what sport hockey. The way your eyes lit up the way that you got carried away when I don't know about that. Here's what I used to watch. Info fresh marshals. infomercials. Dude. Thank. You I'm glad many your infomercial bought something to. I didn't by nearly as much as I watched like I was a kid I was a kid. I would watch the ginsu knives where the guy would. Chop Wood with the knife reach up. Christmas trees mufflers sneakers. Big Thick pieces of rope pipe. You name it and every now, and then use it on food to you know everyone's law, and then you go and by the way you can spread so thin you can almost see through it. Let me show you what we could do it the tomato. Now let's go back to how we can cut a piece of paper. You know this is what I learned. Good. We call them the power demos right that I'm like, why are we taking a knife cutting through mufflers and it's like it's showing the power of this knife. If it could cut through a muffler, it can certainly cut your roast beef right you know. So it worked you know this is the early days we had a lot. Of Fun will you infomercial person but let me introduce him. This is Kevin Harrington. You're hearing he is I think at this point, you might be more well known for being one of the original sharks on Shark tank to me. You will always be the person who wrote the Book Act. Now. which I can loved years ago you're the guy who brought the GINSU knives to. The Fine Lor, billy mays, Tony Little Jackal Lane became these people are celebrities or made into infomercial celebrities because if you George Foreman, foods at even even like food when was a kid I was I was under one hundred pounds for much my life. I would watch the food saver infomercials created and he's got a brand new book out mentor to Millions I. Think this might be in many ways. The Best Book that you've written here's why. All I'm seeing is like the hustler attitude bone boom boomer going to create, create, create, create, great, and something takes off. What's the thing that took off the most for you is the GINSU knives. Actually, the the biggest image just keeps on giving the gift that keeps on giving Tony Little Tony Little, the Exercise Guy Yeah I met him in the late eighties and and he had we did a a product called target training. He had a system, you could target anybody part. So if women wanted to get rid of something under their arms of their love handles, you could target those body parts that did three, hundred, fifty, million in sales. Then we did the AB isolated the did over four, hundred million, and then we did the Gazelle and the Gazelle was a billion dollars of when it ended up. Rowley out all over the world for infomercial. Money or marshals. Yeah. But it starts on TV then it goes to retail and then it goes international. So I mean we made with Tony Little we were airing Tony little back in the early nineties all over one hundred plus countries because that's the other thing that I'm kind of known for in my business. I was one of the creators of the infomercial itself back in the early eighties but then in one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, I had this big library of shows and said, we'll wait a minute. Don't movies go to Europe Asia Latin America dubbed in the local language why can't I do it with infomercials and I opened an office in London? In Jeddah Saudi Arabia in San Paulo Brazil in Tokyo Ninety Ninety one, ninety two and we went from one hundred, million a year the five, hundred, million a year in sales because we were running all around the world instead of just in the United States this thing started when what you're I guess you're doing franchise sales right and then you that's how you got into infomercials I. I. Was a serial entrepreneur going way back when when when I was eleven years old my dad was a bartender but he said, Hey, I saved up enough money we're opening Harrington's Irish pub and you know let's come on to work you know so I was Working there but then I said, I wanNA make real money. You know you're in the restaurant business said you got to start a business he mentored me and you know I really believe in mentors and thank you for mentioning my book mentor to Millions because that is how I ended up learning all the things that that I've I've learned to this point of my father was my mentor to begin with me Tell me more about your dad he sounds like a fascinating guy he got the bar himself, right? Yeah and then he wasn't satisfied with the bar. He saw that the cushions were ripping in my right as you read a bucks. That's crazy man. So my my father was was also a serial entrepreneur. So He's got this restaurant and bar that he's running. You know many hours I mean eighteen hours a day, and he's there almost all the time, but he's also seeing that this. This getting ripped show. Now he starts vinyl repair business and he and I are running around other restaurants and then we were doing and pitch. Do you have any vinyl seats in the juvenile boots that are being cut? We can we have this hot air gun like a vacuum like a like a blow dryer type of thing yeah. This thing heated up and they had the paint that you could match the colors will you as a kid pitching them? Is Not you? Oh Yeah. I was going door to door to restaurants and with the pack and telling him I could repair their vinyl. We also had a lamb nation machine today you get your driver's license and social security are in a nice piece of plastic back then was in a piece of paper. So I'm installing laminating machines around. The different bars and restaurants because that is another one bars would laminate people's cards. As a consumer, you put that in laminated your own cards right. So you know and then my dad one day he told me said, Hey, you know hotels have all these guests they traveled tired I've he cut a deal with a company called magic fingers and we were we had a contract with Holiday Inn to install all the magic fingers into the in in between the box spring and bed stick a quarter ended boom vibrated the bet and that was huge. It took off like crazy all over the all over the country we had certain territories. But. So here I am eleven twelve, thirteen, Fourteen fifteen working in all my dad's deals, and then when I was fifteen I started a drive. Right and quite I'm sorry deposit there why Your Dad do this? My Hunch is reading the book. It's your mom wanted to live in the Nice Neighborhood Your Dad couldn't afford it. He got the. junkiest junkie. The wrong word you got the least expensive house in the nicest neighborhood. Yeah was you felt a sense of inferiority compared to the other kids who are better off than you did he feel that John wanted work? Want one of my buddies his father they lived I lived on a street that had the upper part was all new houses and man. and. So we went to the but they came down the street to go to the grade school that we went to a Cardinal Pacelli Catholic school, and one of my buddies turned sixteen hit a brand new tr six car that was probably a at that time. This is back in the in the seventies. Probably eight thousand dollar car. Okay. Today is probably sixty thousand dollar cars. You know he's still make them even I don't know but anyway. I wanted my own car too. So I bought an MG when I was sixteen paid cash for home. I had my own business. Okay. What was the difference? I? started a driveway ceiling business when I was fifteen knocking on doors all the people out of their house, showing them to cracks in your driveway and I said look it gets cold and Cincinnati in the winter the water will freeze triple the size that crack. If you don't get some sealant in their course I'll seal it and then I'll blacktop your whole driveway with beautiful. and. So I was doing ten jobs a week at the age of fifteen. So when I turned sixteen, I had a little pile of capital in my pocket and bought a car pay cash for it and and my dad hit six six of us right. So the my mom wanted the kids to go to the best schools and so my sisters they they were treated royally. But when it got to me the fourth my Dad said, look take a look your sisters got most of the the good stuff. Thank God you're smart enough. You don't need it so. Go Hustle and pay for your own, not only high school but college. So when I got to college head to get a full time business because Dr Wing ceiling was just the summertime business, it was good made money. But I said I need something year round I started a heating and air conditioning company might senior year going into college junior year of high school summer of on into college. So my freshman year of college I started fresh as in school with a heating and air conditioning company that went to every single day after school running leads and Jelly. Jobs. One of my problems is in interviewers I read the fricking book, and then I want to interject until your own story because I feel like you missed one of the coolest parts of the story, which is people weren't paying you to seal their driveway who needs this. Then you got a relatively said, tell you what do mine do it for free I'm not doing it for free do for cost find do for cost, and then you can use as a reference you showed the before and after photos to people instead the want this, and once you could visualize it people could understand why they would want and what the difference is. I. Mean You read my book. I did. An. Early Days I'm looking at you to classy guy looking at it. Part of you may four we got we got started when you were leaning up, I looked at your Franken biceps dude. Got Bisects you built I gotta work out every now, and then you know I wrestled for years in high school also. Looking at the details here's the thing that I try and understand Kevin. You're smart guy why did you want to go and do heating and air conditioning ache this is very blue collar work I can understand your dad a world. War Two veteran. This is what he get started yeah you WANNA do. Before the Internet I mean, and by the way, this is why did heating air I realized that I could get a list from the courthouse of everyone just bought a new house. Okay and so I think cross reference got phone numbers we'd call them and say look -gratulations. By the way we knew they had good credit just bought a house it's a huge purchase. And, welcome to the neighborhood by the way that furnace could be dangerous of client don't turn it on to we get out there. We're going to show you how to work it. We're going to clean it and all of that free of charge, free, Safety Jack, and so let south. A what upshall was once we got there, we then talk to them about a air conditioning system. This was back in the in the early Seventies. So so now in Cincinnati, only about ten percent of the houses had central air conditioning. So you just bought a new house you love it but I'm sitting there in your living room and we're both sweating bullets. How about we put a furnace an air conditioning system in for thirty nine bucks a month who had financing we built. that. From zero to one million in sales are first year twenty, five employees, five trucks going out every day, and and by the way that was in the seventies that the equivalent of that today would be closer to about five million a year we were cranking out you learn how to do this. You're talking about a time before Entrepreneur magazine. Forbes magazine was not a thing for kids to reopen the Internet was around what did you learn how to come up with these marketing ideas? You know it I I will say I so in between all of this and if you read the book I think this is in the book. Okay. But I I learned from one of the greatest one call closed sales people he was in the safety baby highchair business you. Yes. The baby tender and I I this. This was while I was doing driveway. See this when I was in high school I'm doing driveway ceiling in the summer but I I was looking for some income during the the rest of the year. So answered an ad and these guys had a at that time. It was a three hundred dollar highchair which today is at least a thousand bucks. Okay. But it was a safety highchair used in children's Hospital Cincinnati the baby could not all out of it could not tip it. It was an amazing product and I was selling three four those week making about one hundred and fifty bucks a sale. Or maybe one, hundred, twenty, it was but night making some nice money as as a kid in high school. But I learned how to sell and how to close your door by saying at malls I think enter to win this this trip everybody won the trip. They all got the tickets hardly any of them use the tickets, but then went to deliver the prize. They saw that they genuinely want and now you had your entry and you sold to them. If they said look, I can't afford this I wasn't in. The market to buy what did you learn about how to close sales from somebody who wasn't shown to to buy the key thing in closing sales because it if I handle that objection and there is a way is very simple to handle that objection because we have financing, you can't afford it can afford dollar a day. Can you afford thirty cents a day? Right? We get down to the number of what you can't afford, and then we close by the first thing you have to do is isolate that objection. Okay because. I would find myself until I learned how to sell. I would handle that objection and they say, Oh, great. Well, we can't afford it but now we want to think about it and so it'd be another objection and I'd answer six objections until they just kept giving me more until I learned how to move them around be like okay. So you understand this and this and I would resell it, and so the only thing that's really standing in a way is the price you can't afford it is that I mean if you had the money if you could afford it we. Surely would want this right. So it's isolating the objection so that now they said Yeah if you saw that problem I'm in and then can afford thirty cents a day. Yeah. I can't great. What about if you're problem? I'm just not ready to buy from a stranger right now. I'm not in the head space to do it, which frankly is what comes up a lot with infomercials later on in your career someone sitting there at Camp Fall Asleep watching a guy sal, not just the heads to by nine. We give your money back. Guarantee does company's been around for forty years by the way? Have you know children's hospital? They've got three hundred of them over there. So don't worry about who we are because it's used by the hospital alright you almost saying we're not decided to. You're putting it in your house. Now you decide later if you decide, you don't want to buy. We'll pick it up and take it away. All. Sure. In by the way with infomercials, everything is sh I. now return any time you want a we we tell them, they get thirty or sixty days to return it. Somebody sends me something back in six months. What do I do I refund their money 'cause I don't want back being the guy that goes to the attorney general says, these guys don't refund their money and and so I in thirty eight years of shipping products to consumers never had any any any kind of real issues other than. Like a lot of returns for defective merchandise or something like that. But no government agencies. Okay. So then you sell the business, you're looking for something to do founder of California closets come to you and says, Hey, I'm going to do franchises. Can you help sell franchises? You Start Talking People Franchise for California closets some of those people say you know what I actually am not into carpentry not into building this this is. Not The right business for me use eight. Well, maybe I could offer them a different franchise. You start offering different franchise before you know you're the guy who's selling people on subway franchises right and while you're selling them on that, you're discovering all these other business I. The business needs that they have in your selling money from their thing that I wonder then is from there you leap into infomercials my right how Yes. So so so I'm selling franchises and businesses and making money and having fun. I Buy a house I'm a kid still I'm only by. Mid Twenties, craziest money buffer yourself. What's that was the funniest craziest. Got It for myself thing. Oh. They've million dollar house. Okay. All right. Is this by the way the house then you need it alone for and your wife said on us doing okay and hopefully we get back I bought some crazy things over the years but anyway, it's you know so. I I buy this house. By the way my first home I bought back in the in the seventies. It was a thirty eight thousand dollar house nothing fancy, right But I order cable television and I'm like, what's cable take what? It's thirty channels content you get twenty four hours of sports on ESPN BUBIS HBO CNN News, Cab, etc. I I'm going to all the channels and never forget I was so excited because before that Andrew I don't know if you remember you only had a couple channels and besieged CBS ABC, an independent station. So I get through all the canal's to ten thirty and I get to channel thirty and there's nothing there and so I'm like I'm trying to find see if the wiring Finally call technical support like Hey, there's a problem I. Love This cable twenty great great channels what I'm paying for thirty. They said what what what channel aren't you getting hit Channel Thirty is oh, that's the latest channel. It's the newest company Discovery Channel they don't have a budget for twenty four hours a day they produce eighteen hours a day. That's all we run six hours is going to be blank. Okay and I'm like you're kidding me there's GonNa be nothing on for six hours. What if I have something to put on there? They said come on let's. Set up a time when in at that's when I said I'm going to start putting products on this this this slot. So we started putting kitchen products and that was the beginning days. This really is the birth of the Modern Day infomercial. In the early ways, it was I. These franchises would then pitch their their businesses that people could then sign up franchise. What's the first actual product that you got into? Well, I have to remember. Because there was so many different things that we were pitching and hog at one time. But it was we did Ginsu knives and we did boot saver and we did a couple of other it was in the kitchen category. And I in the food saver actually predated the Ginsu but the GINSU was was another one of ours too. and. So on and this is interesting because I didn't own the food saver. I didn't own the GINSU. We partnered with the people in the early days we partnered with the people that had the products. So people say, did you invent food saver? No, I'm not an inventor I'm part I'm I'm a marketing. Player in the business. But what we started doing then was creating our own products that would have. that. That we would own and manufacturer ourselves instead of having about the the GINSU. Is, you met a guy who was doing a demo at a food show. What are you doing the food show? So so because I was selling businesses remember selling pizza parlors, restaurants, delicatessens, home, and garden stores I. I'm I was going to trade shows 'cause I, exercise what it called curiosity overload right? If I'm selling the business I want to know about the industry at the flower shows the restaurant. Joe's I met The Philadelphia Home and garden show. Just taking in ideas to see Guinean ideas I walked by his booth with this huge crowd, and this is right after I met with the Discovery Channel and this guy, I could barely see him but he's got the knife in his hand cutting through a Coca Cola Cam among were a pair of sneakers and it. It's the GINSU knife and you. If you buy today, you're going to get to the nine, hundred, ninety, five and then but wait there's. More six free steak knives apparently in person he did the weight there's all that in person this guy I saw them collect thousands of dollars and the light bulb went off. If I film that take it to discovery got programming cost me nothing just to film it. Let's cut a deal I went up and told the guy this. He'd been doing this for a dozen years the same pitch same product at the Philadelphia home show then did the. Iowa state fair and I'd like, Arnold his name was Boris, I said I don't even know what we're gonNA call this but it's going to be a long commercial to sell that product and want to film it and I'm going to take down to discovery we show can't did the deal did hundreds of millions of dollars over the next number of years it was just it was mind blowing what started happening and is when the infomercial business took off. This is what I love about the book mentor to millions it just fully stories. It's like if anyone has ever met, one of these hyper energetic people keep coming up with ideas he's launching stuff all the time and you like I'm in awe, how do they do it? Any one of these ideas enough of story to last for the whole meal? This is what this book is about. I think our CO founder says that he took his daughter with him to sit and talk to you. She brought folks thinking two adults talking I might get. Bored let me just bring a book to entertain myself. She couldn't look up look away from the conversation open up her book. It's like that. That's why like this book, right so then coup who does the fulfillment I heard the fulfilment creation that whole thing was a big Michigan for I had to learn all that stuff. So I mean again I'm I was a great salesman. I had a great pitch. I got discovery channel to do this I signed with discovery channel a multi year contract for six hours a day on discovery nationwide. All right. So This was the beginning and but I'm getting all these orders and I'm hiring fulfillment centers. They're boxing it. They're this they're that air shipping late they're not the returns are coming back. They're not telling us about the returns people aren't getting their money back. I learned one heck of a lot about operational stuff and so this is one of the reasons why I say having mentors in your life is so important because I didn't know anything about the film about Finance about operations about credit card processing, and we I mean I had a girl in. My Credit Card Processing Department that had to issue credits, and and so one person we had to trust to do that one day my auditors came in and they said, what are you guys selling thousand dollars and I'm like nothing everything's like twenty, nine, ninety, five, thirty may ninety five they said well, last month you issued fifteen one, thousand dollar credits and it seems to be a pattern because it's going to some of the same people in the month before she was issuing, she issued tens of thousands of dollars of credits to her friends and relatives. They started thirty bucks and they got a hundred bucks and then the five hundred they just kept testing. When are these idiots going to see that were stealing from them right I mean I've been through everything, but I finally figured out with because what stupid right? I got the right Mentor I got a Finance Mentor and Operations meant that's what mentor the millions kind of the reason why I wrote it is because I said I wouldn't be where I am today if it didn't have some really smart people that helped me out. I feel like a dad was a mentor. You talk about how he would have a stack of magazines just keep going through them looking for ideas, right? Was it. Okay. So let me tell you about another mentor. We needed capital because I needed inventory. So I got Ginsu goes up we got forty thousand orders. Well, we didn't have the inventory. So now I gotta go scramble where's The inventor? Well, you can place your order and we'll turn it in ninety days on my well ninety days me these people they want the product next week. So so I had to start slowing down the orders until we could catch up on the fulfilment, but they said, well, look if you want an order, you're going to place an order for forty thousand knife sets. We want to get paid fifty percent down with order while. Forty thousand knife sets at ten bucks a piece four, hundred grand I needed two, hundred grand and then have it. So I'm a young entrepreneur. Joel. I'm my business is is bubbling ready to explode, but I didn't have the capital I go to five banks no money no money slammed the door don't ever come back literally mean these guys are like, why would you think we'd give you money of no. You don't have good credit or any credit, and you don't have any cash. You got no assets leave and so I saw a finance mentor went to some connections at at a chamber of Commerce. Get together and they said, Hey, you need this guy over here. He just retired he was a former bank president and I get talking to him. He says Kevin with your with what you've got in the business of job him some numbers and stuff he said I'll get you three million dollars. It'll take ninety days, but I probably will get it from somebody that turns you down already even and he said I'm not going to charge you a dime a once I get that you're gonNA. WanNa, bring me on in some capacity and I'm not even gonNA. Tell you what it is. Or if I even want to join you, let's see how it goes. But I'm GonNa give you that get you that three million bucks ninety days. Later, I had three million sitting my in my account from bank, turn me down and that guy join my company in a in a consulting type capacity mentoring capacity. Now, it was paying him to do what he did and he brought on legal people, operations, people we grew the business to five, hundred million eventually after that. So it I needed I needed the strength of having a great team around me the Dream Team is I call it. Did I remember to do at one point then also go bankrupt if one of the S.'s went bankrupt what happened? Yes. So so this is you know there's always learning curves so I had. A prior to this like a dozen products that were running and and so. All, you said fulfillment how puff that was right but we also had problems with some of the manufacturers right I mean every now and then we would get a really bad batch of goods and and we'd find out after we would pay for yet him in ship them to the customer, and we'd find out thirty percent of what we ship was actually broken or defective when they opened the box because it comes over from China's rattling at this and that so so one day the bank came in. And they were processing or credit cards. But now they got they got nervous because there was a lot of complaints against this one item, but they did know. Like will we got all these complaints on this company? They grabbed millions of dollars out of our bank account. With, Card processing companies, it just was coming in and going out, but they had a chance to get it before it went out was day. WHO's in Grad is Adams our bank was our credit card processor, right? Okay. Academic in there in in nineteen ninety and so. So. Now, what we sat down with the bank and they said, why did you do this? They said you get we're getting all these complaints. Well, it was one product that was having the problem. So what we ended up doing was isolating that we ended up setting up merchant accounts for every single product so that we could run every product has its own business we needed to be we could P. and l., at and actually. We were paying royalties and profits in many of these cases. So at the end of the day, it was it was it was a bad experience because the one way we could get our money back from the bank because the bank wouldn't they were sitting on our millions. They. Sat, with a bunch of lawyers they said, you can go to court and might take you sixty or ninety days the the the bring head to it but by then you're out of business or do an immediate filing chapter eleven and and will come right out of it i. mean we were in and out of chapter eleven within within weeks and actually got the money back the judge ordered it and we were flying. High from there on. So we we learned a lot was one of the biggest mistakes we made. You don't put all your products in one merchant account because if one of them goes bad, destroy your whole company that is still leaving an issue right now online I trust stripe implicitly but I've heard from some people who are in my audience who've had stripe issues, and so they will go through multiple credit card processing strike. They'll cut you I mean would we dealt with stripe and their you know their business decent people. They cut your arm off if they have to yeah. Yeah, and sometimes you just can't understand why frankly they've been more. than. Others but. They a lot of chances Ya. Tell you the problem they've had they got ripped off by a lot of people really all they had to tighten up their controls. So you build this whole thing. You then decide well, actually you know what? Let's talk about one more fun thing than we talked about the big house. What's The funnest thing you've had in the house what the thing that was most meaningful the thing that was most fun anyway, I had. So a I live in Saint Pete Florida and we've got a lot of sports stars here to a baseball star had bought four houses on the Gulf of Mexico knocked them all down and built one big pass, and so it we had we had a it was a twelve thousand square foot home with a twenty, five, hundred square foot guesthouse in poolhouse and tennis courts and basketball. Game Room at. I mean it the game room had a a room for. One. Armed bandits was a separate room that you know lot machine but okay. So it was a pretty spectacular place, but he got traded he bought a built this house lived ended about a year and then got traded to the Los Angeles dodgers so and so he had to he moved out and house was empty and I came along and did a nice deal. So I I it for cents on the dollar. But it you know it was way too much for me than me. We actually filmed a couple hundred infomercials there live there behalf my company there. Too, so it was a corporate by and it was a movie set really made back. We shot a lot of movies. Their spring breakers was one of the movies that was shot there at that house and you know what I is I say been there done that I don't need that anymore I'm a much more conservative type guy now and had a lot of fun doing that for a while but don't need it anymore and have learned of learn to make things simple in my life is is a lot better shark tank you get on Shark tank so. I'm one day. At a conference and again I love conferences and this person tax me and says, Hey, here I work with Mark Burnett and I'm I'm just scouting around and your name just keeps coming up everywhere I go and love to talk to you in okay. Hey, what what what you know, what what's going on Jamal Mark's got a new show coming out a can't tell you anything about it. It's confidential, but it's it's called Shark tank and you'll you'll you'll be hearing about it eventually. I said Shark tank wait a minute I know what mark does those people on survivor pretty crazy side. Is this a Chinedu to me on shark tank said I don't think I want to be part of that. She's had none of its business show. Okay. So so anyway, she said look I'm giving mark a list of all the people and and you're on the on the list and you're going to hear from Mark Burnett. Office and so he interviewed a ton of people in our industry I. I had an office in La so went and saw him when I was out there and I did a, he would I I was sitting with mark I should so mark and again I'm a closer. Okay. Said, what would it take his? I said, what do you think Marcus have? We've met you've you've you've got a chance to hang out with me. A little bit you think I can do it. He said Kevin You said you want me to be honest and I said, yeah, he said I don't know I have no idea whether you could be a successful shark on the show shark thing and he told me what it was taken pitches and all that right and I said, well, I said I'll tell you what I think we need to do and he said what? I said wanted you let me audition right now let's get some cameras and I'm outperformed for you get anybody you want get ABC network here I'll come back. He said you're kidding me says you're ready to go right now and I said how long will it take you to set up a made a call? He's forty five minutes I went in the other room had cameras roll played me taking pitches for Mark Burnett's people and I did what? I did every day I go to trade shows and take pitches. That's my life I go to the house for show the hardware show the and show the beauty show golf show I love to take pitches and I did it mark said? But do thumbs up. He's over making final decision shortly and I got a call a few days later and they said you are the first shark that we're going with. So anything in that in that trial period where you are trying to stand out or any of your moves lines that you knew this is what gets people's eyes to light up. Or you're talking about on the show itself when you're Mark Burnett's office doing this role playing for what it would be like if you're on the show, do you have any any one liners anything that you do to get people interested? Well to get. P When you say people interested, it's usually the other way around they're trying to get me interested because they're to gain Mark Burnett to feel like Oh, this guy's a real showman. The audience is going to light up. That's the first time I've ever had that question but. I have to think about I don't know if. Maybe. It's in my book coming me. No you know what? I'm trying to get a sense of what your pitching style is like what your style of conversation is that you know gets people to open up. To their hearts to get connected to you because you're you're one of these guys who you have all these infomercials. But you weren't on the infomercials yourself we don't get to see you do now who is. Behind the camera I mean I'll I'll say this my one of my strengths is finding the best of the best elements of any person right so like I you know I know that this is how I've operated but like on shark tank people would come in and they're pitching me their product and unlike look I don't take this the wrong way but. I'M GONNA licensed the product from you I'm GonNa. Pay You huge royalties. You'RE GONNA make a lot of money when this sessile but I don't need you. After we shoot the infomercial because I I'm GonNa do all the work I'm going to shoot it on the by the media I'm going to ship a product. You know so I think they were impressed. With that kind of a style that look I'll put up the money to do it. I don't need you because I've got the infrastructure right and you'll see Mr wonderful say that I'm I'll buy your business and the first thing I'm GonNa do fire you right. So it's you know how that is. So here's what you did say in the book you said. The reason I was wondering, why aren't you on Shark Tank you say in the book or I Guess Your Co author Mark Tim says. He interviews you and comes away with this understanding that you weren't happy with just affecting a few people's lives who you are investigating. You wanted to be able to help more people. You wanted to be a mentor more people, which is where the name of the book comes from Mentor. INS? But couldn't you do both? I mean you you clearly could get higher and higher profile from being on shark tank. You clearly loved it. One of your books called put a shark in your tank. So in hindsight you gotta you know if I if I had known the show is going to go eleven seasons the way it is my mind might have made a maybe a different. But but GONNA understand this I was going out and filming four times a year and for weeks on end, and then I'd come back from filming and I've got five deals that I did. Now I've got contracts, WANNA got lawyers I got and most of the deals and you can talk to any sharp in all the early seasons were terrible. No sharks made any money jill about season three or four, and it's because they didn't have enough deal flow. So I would come home to my wife has spent A. Half a million. On this one deal you'd be like, what is it and I'm like really a half a million you're kidding me I mean like, yeah, I made a money but a half a million is a lot of money to me. It's you know I mean it's it. It isn't you know, hey, just right the Jack and no big deal right? I mean, all of us from Barbara, the only one that money has not been the issue for is Mark Cuban because he's got four, five billion or so right? The rest of us were in the we you know whether it's hundreds of millions or tens of millions know half a million, still a lot of money but I was working all these deals taking myself away from my core business, my core business went down the tubes. Char tank. I would I mean literally I was in the business of products and putting them on TV and producing I was gone forty percent of the time. My staff is like Oh Kevin's going to be on TV's the big shot right and people were leaving the company even though I was on shark. Tank. It's it's crazy when you think about it but they wanted me be there to drive business our our company was going the other way because I imagine as a company going what's what was going on if the company Oh, I mean we didn't go out of business we just I mean I one time had a five hundred million dollar business. Then I had a four hundred million dollar business that ahead of three hundred million dollar business. Yes going the wrong way. So because it's it you know and to this day I look at I mean I. D- I had to do all over again I always say do exactly the same thing do the number of years in second one, hundred, seventy, five segments by the way Barbara Corcoran calls me and you'll see her on the mentor to millions book by the way Barbara is one of our testimonials here in the mentor millions bow. But she said Kevin I ran into her and edit at a show and she said you're the smartest chartres I'm like, what do you mean? She said you're on TV all my reruns still rum CNBC you don't have to invest any. Money. Time and all that. Yeah. So anyway, I had a good run I loved it and Hey it's that's why now I have the time to a as as I've I sold off that that as seen on TV I owned S. unique. And CRTV DOT COM all during this shark tank. Time I ended up saying you know what? I'm going to sell it, and again made a lot of money on that and now just focused on doing the things that I wanNA do. I'm involved with what about nine public companies and I I have a little different listeners I also you involved in in was it republic which is a private company private. About fifty companies but nine of them are public I'm on the board of nine public company. What's this thing that you do with Mark Tim the CO author of Mentor to Millions? This is. Mark is amazing. Mark was mentored by Zig Ziglar and so was I, and so zig passed away Tom Ziegler introduced us and said you guys are both products coming out of my fathers camp. You should meet and do business. So that was the and then mark and I said I started mentoring mark, and in the book you'll see that that the the journey that we take during the mentoring process and I think that's the key message from from me today to the folks that are out there is you need a mentor in your life and the mentor millions book is going to teach. You how to go out there and deal with that world, how to get mentors, how to get the best mentors and one more important thing. How to be the best man t of that mentor because if you're not a good men T, you're not going to get good mentors or they're not gonNA stick with you and now the two of you had a business, we said local partner up. We don't even know what it's going to be. We're going to figure something out he says to you how about you coach people and so you start coaching people doing one on one calls and helping people. Know what we get was we went to the Ziglar family and we bought all the assets of all Zig Ziglar content for exclusive rights for the digital marketplace. Really. Advisory Way I think everyone knows him. But just in case he is the. One of the original motivational speakers grounded in religion. This was one of his big sellers secrets of closing the sale, and by the way you'll see me I'm re-releasing a lot of this. This is in bookstores all over I put eighteen chapters in here from myself show had no idea. I've created new content of we created a masterclass of Zig Ziglar and they don't and do a zig ziglar thing online. It's you guys who put that together. That's your business. It's us. Yeah. We all met and we I shot. We took thirty of the best videos of zig I shot thirty videos to tie into zigzag teachings and I showed how I use those teachings and explained and work showed how it all worked and that was a master class we did. We'd been doing that for the last four years. Now that's mark and I that's our business. We've got a couple of other businesses together all show. Is it wrong to bring up this thing from act. Now, the previous book about where you about to buy a house and then aim your wife comes to you and says I'm looking at your face e. m. i., over-stepping or not. It it. What happened it my? It's just crazy stuff. I went to buy a house I. Just I needed to close quickly to get a like a save forty percent on a house but they said only if you can close within ten days, hold the money out of the company but I got a mortgage approved and now I pay cash for it and it was a million dollar house a this back in back in the eighties. So and then when I went to get the mortgage my wife said, we don't need a mortgage we own house and I'm like, no I need more I got to put the money back in the company. So she's like well, no, it's. You know it's paid for we're not gonNA do that so. She decided that she wouldn't take a mortgage out, but we had the discussion I'm going to grab this money out of the company for short-term couple week loan, and then we're going to close on on the financing. Shell. When she did that I said I don't want to be married to you anymore literally the Nike. The she did that packed up and left and we got divorced I. Mean I can't. I can't live with somebody that's going to. It's going to tell me that I don't know how to run my business when I'm doing amazing things with with my business, my money. So I'm Hey I'm running short I. got it. I've got to jump at I know. We had great. Time it. If there's any chance, I could just tell people what they get when they buy this book. Is that yet I wish that there was even more that you're selling book is so frigging good. I can't believe what just sound people on like a twenty dollars product. It's good. There's seller anything in it I don't need any money anymore. But what we do is this you you can pre-order this book it's it's comes out in. September couple of weeks. More, than a couple of weeks but were when you buy this book preorder, we give mark and I have a thirty day mentoring program that we give you absolutely free and this is mark and I are content. With the folks that pre ordered this book and I don't even what value you could put on that. But Hey, for twenty bucks, you get a month of mentoring you get this book and how do we get that I? Didn't see that in the book how do I get that? This is something Specialists Kevin Mentor. Dot. com and that's where you find out all these details and Kevin Mentor DOT COM, and that's where you get the free mentoring and it'll show you how to do it. All Right Kevin Mentor DOT COM is what we should buy in we can, of course. We're going to buy through Amazon or something like that. What Kevin Mentor DOT COMS re sign up for the the the free mentoring. Okay. All right and his book is really freaking good. Tim is a Gr- when I first started reading this I say it's not in in Kevin's voice. It's it's Mark Tim writing this. Is So. Good at telling your story. It's so good at and giving the details. I've said enough here I know you gotta run. Thank you Kevin so much for being on here. I really enjoyed this interview I love the energy, both of us have and good stuff man. Much for having me. 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Talking with T-Bird: Rodger Bingham

Rob Has a Podcast

1:38:40 hr | 2 years ago

Talking with T-Bird: Rodger Bingham

"'cause we're talking with t-bird nasty cannot shy oh this cannot asia and things yes. That's right talking with t. Bird is back and if i am not incorrect t-bird is is this episode number ten ten ten. Are you kidding the end end of survivor into extinction that right yes. How does that no but that's that's exciting. Hey bliss get this out right now. I know you're really tired. You've had a long way. I don't think you've got much sleep last night. I'm gonna pull you through this podcast. Which that's what we do for each other. This is gonna brighten your morning in case you haven't heard because i think we're flying in last night. <hes> new york mets last night. Where did they do to my braves leaves. Yeah i was following along. The braves almost came back so <hes> no. I can't watch them thinking what it was you know and then i tend to eight what i mean the game that never is. I didn't know that you live and die with every pitch on the braves well. They were playing in your team. I had to have something to open up with actually yeah well. I just was yeah. I was watching a we keep up with my husband and i came up with this braves surprise and you know my good friend is the code had a great right year and he he got coach of the year. I don't know if that's how they say it in sports. Whatever based awesome awesome gas. Oh yes okay well. I just got back in the last. I'm recording this on friday morning and got back in very late last night on thursday. I was down in orlando for the podcast movement conference where i was speaking on thursday so picked up a lot of <hes> good stuff south had a lot of nice <hes> meetings down there and then here. I am a back to talk with t. Bird about our we're going to interview a another another legend at the game from survivor the australian outback season number two roger bingham aka kentucky joe yeah yeah okay. I am so crazy excited about this. I can't stand. It is our first player that we have talked to from australia. Oh yeah. I think australia was a pretty memorable season. I guess you might say okay so before we get started because roger. I can't wait to get him on the on john here. There's a couple of i this season. I mean a lot of firms well. There's a lot of i so give with me. There's one first and last so far for this season a i in a last verse last season that was forty two days awards okay. Yes absolutely that was one and the other one is this was a i or c. was only one season before and i won't spend too much time. It was the first life finale okay got it got it it haven't they all been live since fan. Yes yes you live finale ever ever since then okay now also then. I have had one one more thing. I won't spend too much time again on this one either because almost see if you can name them. I think up to this point i have had the most returning players to to play again. I believe now with that being said i'm will quiz you here because i know you're so good and i will choose to impress the listeners because already ready now. You're gonna notice named the eight players that have played again. Okay so the people that have come back from the australian outback back. I'll go just it's easier for me to think about them. In there <hes> boot order so kinney's comeback and then scoop in i they came back and then varner came back and then a lisa came back jerry came. I'm back amber came back. Colby came back antena came back. That's eight wow that was great you. You didn't even hesitate. I knew i knew you'd know they so. I'm impressed awesome yeah so now okay so really quickly as quickly go as quickly as she named those eight. You can do this really quickly. Nothing most to the listeners whether their fans are super fans can do this name the buhler from from the australian outback <hes> so it was deb then cal then mad dog then mitchell then then kimmy then scooping got medevac than it was varner and then alicia john and then this is where i get a little muddy for me i think then it was <hes> who was jerry or nick that it went for oh you're jerry <hes> yep jerry jerry and then and then nick and then amber her and then roger and then elizabeth and then keith tina and colby as he keith keith colby and tina you do it. That's awesome with jerry. I or nick great. You did it though that a lot but yeah that's all right t- birth very excited to talk to roger today. Of course we want to take a moment before we call call up roger to thank our sponsor for this episode of the podcast and this is a fun. I know that you are a animal lover and a dog ugh lover so this is going to be perfect for you embark dog d._n._a. 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To save i just wanna know this. If you brought a puppy back dominic anthony no i did. I the my flying with the dog. Days are are behind meaty bird. Everybody knows i'll kids need a puppy or a dog to grow up. That's why i got lola for tyler nellie. So what are we going to do if you got him like a hamster or a bird or something in the turtle. Let's talk about new pets for my kids at a later date are you. Are you ready to jump in with roger. I'm ready all right birth taken yeah all right so today i am honored to have a survivor from the top rated show two thousand one according to the nielsen ratings beings they had a range of about thirty million viewers a wake survivor the australian outback or simply survivor australia was tight in queensland wet and tropical for forty two days with sixteen players. I would definitely argue that most of these players. There's no matter what booed order they were voted out or either known by their first or their last names he mad dog colby amber burt jerry alicia tina mitchell said kale nick varner elizabeth himmy scoop it and last <unk> but certainly not least roger aka kentucky joke it premiered right after super bowl thirty five c._b._s. had big expectations for this one and it did not disappoint this gentleman born and raised in kentucky. A farmer was a perfect candidate to be cast in even at the age of fifty three when he played he had all the credentials to be the sole survivor self proclaimed aimed workaholic. He used his knowledge she had in construction the bill shelter he was able to adapt to different personalities and situations. He's he's a teacher with a master's degree education c._e._o. Of a bank owner of a lumber company owner a hardware store. He is inventive diligent. It would only make sense that he would add survivor castaway to his resume. I would tell you age seventy two. I got a feeling he still workaholic like whenever i've talked to him the last couple of weeks he's been out bush logan build a reception on his farm elastic thirty six days finish fifth in and is one of the most love and respect respected players of all time <hes> to this day. I am excited to welcome roger. Bingham also know all his super bands as kentucky joe on today's talking with t. bird. That's very kind of you my my my head is rolling up about that was very very very nice. Thank thank you very much roger. If anything never happens to me i'm going to have t. Bird do the eulogy. She's going to be in charge of that. Okay you got it. Only this is exciting. It's so great to hear your voice. Well thank you yeah. I don't <hes> i don't have have social media and things like that and then busy doing other things and the <hes> the lady. I'm engaged to tammy cornet. <hes> very very beautiful young lady i might add she takes care of all finding the find somebody or somebody and they find me. They can go to tammy cornet <hes> her facebook book page and <hes> they can contact me through her. Okay all right hosted pitcher over and she's a beauty. Let me say okay all right if we hear more about what's going on with that but roger. This is a really really a thrill anytime. I've gotten to talk to you. I feel like i saw you. Do you had come out for one of the finales of a few years ago right. Yes yes ma well. I've been to two to three of course. They got to be so many strive for people. You know it was harder to get tickets last one. I was at my <hes> grandson. He gave us twelve years always twelve the then seventeen now so i guess it's been four or five years ago when i came out to l._a. Brought him with me the and was able to finagle around finally get on a get two tickets. Go cool guy. I got i've got a granddaughter now. That's ready to go so i'm gonna. I'm gonna try to go to one of the finale this this next next year and take take my granddaughter long on that one okay. How many grandchildren it for you. I've got to didn't have anyone when i was on survivor. Wow got a got a young man seventeen and <hes> porter and then my granddaughter macy he's fifteen <hes> the both of them play soccer and i go to i go to ninety five percent of their games okay roger. Could you tell me bird and i about how you ended up getting involved with survivor. In the first place of course that your season was such a phenomenon. I know that there was such a big casting search that went on on to find people for survivors second season <hes> be glad to there was almost <hes> forty nine thousand applicants applicants for the second show and i watched the first season on t._v. And and decided then i said if they do a second show i'm going to send in an application and i've always been in an interested in people that went through survival situations and i always found myself watching movies like that or reading books okara articles about people who were in survival situations so when that go came along i said i'd never sent in an application for a show in my life but i said i i did send in one for that and of course the process then they narrowed it down to forty nine thousand down to eight hundred people and at that time there was twelve places in the united on stage. You could go to be interviewed. I picked <hes> pittsburgh. Pennsylvania went up there and was interviewed by young lady and i can tell that they were interested in then maybe because they kept me in over an hour and we were we were all in a waiting room and some of the people were back in their ten fifteen minutes <hes> but anyway came away. That's feeling okay and then it got down to the final fifty of us and of course we were out in los angeles for two week period and took a test <hes> of course. I know you guys know this. It was over over fourteen hundred questions on the two days to take and interviews mark burnett was always there and always at all the interviews interviews along with jeff drope and lynne spillman and i always tell that lynn's film and didn't like me <hes>. She didn't think i would like to show she never did come out and say it but but i could just tell i picked up on that real fast but at the same token i could tell that that mark burnett did like me so after being out there about up to a two week period. I got a knock on the door. <hes> is on wednesday night about nine o'clock and they will forget incomes mark burnett and jeff ropes and <hes> this is exactly what mark burnett said to me said roger he said. I got some good news for you. I got some bad news. The good news is you've been selected to go to australia australia to be on survivor too and the bad news is you're going to skydive out of an airplane to get on and they all strayed on it. You're leaving for skydiving school in the morning. No <hes> i you know i was really happy about the first part of that what he had to tell me. I wasn't that excited about having <hes> i've. I don't ride rollercoasters. I've never ridden a roller coaster in my life. Don't plan on ever read and the roller coaster <hes> so the idea of jumping out of airplane didn't appeal to me <hes> so we all did go to skydiving who different and i had no idea who the other fifteen people were that i was going to be on the show with we all went to different. Skydiving sues <hes> all over the united states but of course if you watched the show that we did not have to skydive i went through the training some people from what i understand it actually made a jumper to and the reason they didn't do that was because of insurance so that was basically how i got on the shoe show and <hes> yes we did kick kick friend out of the number one ratings that that you're they'd been rated number one for several years and we were fortunate enough to knock him out of the number one ratings yeah how you doing friends right here comes a survivor the australian outback when you went to skydiving school. You didn't actually do a jump they. They just want to talk you through okay. Hold your body like this okay. I went to all of the training <hes>. Some people like i said i found about had made a jump with because like i said we were all sent to different skydiving schools all over the united states. I went through the training at put my a parachute on. I think it was on three or four and was walking out to the plane to make my first job and i don't mind telling you i was not look or due to it but i wasn't going to do it and so we were welcome from the office out towards the plane and the guy in the office hollered back tells me i got a phone call. I turn around and go back and it was c._b._s. And <hes> survivor folks and they said hold up on making the jump they they said we're having problems getting insurance yeah wow all of you people so they kept me around her then for two more days where they decided what they were going to do. Of course he ended up changing your minded not not doing the and it was more than just jumping out of an airplane and then owned a quarter. We were gonna jump out at twelve thousand five hundred feet and then freefall down to five thousand feet dropping over a mile through the yeah. Yeah you know before you ever pulled a cord and then and then hopefully float on down so right right yeah. That's one time i was glad. It didn't work out that was like going to the electric chair in the governor called. Yeah got a reprieve from the governor's. You'd better believe yeah y'all where you going to do it tandem or you could jump in by yourself. We were going to jump onto the australian. Continent buyers fell all the first. We're we're. We're i was where i was taking my lesson. We were going to go out. We were not going to be attached together together by any straps. I was going to hold have a hold of my instructors shoud. We were gonna be facing each other. He would have a whole to my shoot and i would have a whole to his harness. We would jump out together and he told me he said now sometimes. When you jump out we get separate and he said if we do you said if we do you just go over your your you're court. Don't don't don't let out there mature until you get down to five thousand base so yeah we were going to skydive a individ- angelique. Nobody attached to it onto the continent. Now you didn't and ended up doing the jump but you did have to jump jump off of that cliff and that was of another famous moment in that season where you had to do what i seventy foot jump off the cliff class yeah jeff probst around sixty feet and the only instructions he gave us he said when you go to the jump he said run and jump reality said if you'd just stepped down and go district down. He said he only hit bad of the cliff orange down. He said run and jump way out for me. That was honestly the scariest thing i ever ever done in my life <hes> but you know i had prepared. Physically i was <hes> in good shape could could have been a little bit better cardio strength wise. I was an exceptional shape to be on the show. <hes> so and mentally you know. I tried to prepare myself mentally link because i knew there would be some things that i probably wouldn't enjoy doing but i said you know what if they're younger folks rest up and do it. I can do it too so <hes> did not enjoy doing that. I honestly and this is and i told the rest of them. When we got up on shore that day <hes> i have no recollection of i remember jumping out off the cliff and then soon as i jumped out i remember thinking to myself. What in the world are you doing and i do. I do not remember fallen. I don't remember hidden water. The next thing i remember is popping my head popping back through the surface a little water and i've i've never experienced <hes>. I don't know if you'd call it a blackout session that <hes> in my life but that's i how did then now the one thing that they didn't show right after that when we all got up on shore that we were all amazed about and we would all get on on the internet and email of course there wasn't you know all these cell phones and things slack and text message and then we would all email each other back and forth but the one one thing they didn't show when we got up on shore all of us had leeches honest and they were yeah we had lease over getting them leeches off and then things they'll get you trump. They can get places that you can't even dream about them getting and so that was the first priority was to get all those leeches all of us now now roger. It was not just that you had to do this death defying jump also but it was water where oh you had some issues with swimming right that that's correct. I brought up on a farm but they only i was in my twenties before i was ever in a swimming pool and the only water i was in was farm ponds and then was the same on the cattle frequent and <hes> so you know i was in oh sometimes but not a and they would have usually foot mud in in in in the bottom of 'em so i never learned to swim and at that time i had had a in in ground swimming pool in my backyard for twelve years and had never been off a diving board <hes> well. My daughter and son all daughter angeles. He's the daddy said you better learn. How i swam a little bit so <hes> he's a teacher and teaches swimming lessons also so i got to where i could go off a diving board which about three defeat up off the water and then swim over to the side. I never did swim a whole away all the way to the end of the swimming pool so <hes> yeah. That's that's for may was a scary scary thing to do yeah and they didn't show on t._v. I made it over there about two thirds of the way and i was doing i was dog paddling bressler breaststrokes and <hes> i was doing strokes that they didn't have names that <music> he and <hes> i gotta worry about two-thirds away and i went down a couple of times underwater mike scooping we had talked about it and he was he had jumped off first and then i was the last one so he swam back over and was there waiting for me 'cause they knew i could swim but he ended up helping mitt grabbing hold their about two thirds of the way over to the crate and and i got my senses back to myself you know that's what it's all about just keeping calm and collected collected and thinking about what you're doing so then i was able to make the rest of the way over over to the craig. We did lose that challenge. However one of our members went the swimming to the wrong. It wasn't because i was a slow swam. Although i was just hey roger wooded. She put to to be noticed out of forty nine thousand when you first applied. What did you do on your audition video. I was just curious. I guess you didn't do any swimming well. I wasn't upon i'll tell you a little brief scenario. What did i i got a forty six jeep <hes> open-top or army jeep <hes> that i drive around crittenden here sometimes so i got it out and i put on bib overalls which i normally don't wear a bib overalls on concrete or something like that and i'll were put on a bib overalls and i pulled up and we we ran through this thing one time we take one time and senator. Dan pulled up in the middle of town and <hes> it was laying the small town image on which diane from a very small at that time we didn't have any stop lights in the whole county and <hes> so i'm good out of the jeep talking. I'm showing them the bank in the store and the church church where i go and that's basically the whole town and then i tell them i said well. I live on a farm so then i'm on a tractor and i'm talking all this this time then i'm on a tractor out on my farm around my cattle feeding a couple role bails then i'm then i'm on a bicycle pump up a hill coming up from my house which <hes> i was riding a bike a lot at <hes> and was talking about the first survivor and the richard hatch you being naked and then the food that i would've said i would've voted his bud out a long time ago. If i look at him so so <hes> and then at the end <hes> i go out in my pond. I pick a butcher not out of the kitchen and <hes> go out in the pond about chess depots. Well i go down under the water. Then they start the camera and then i pop up the knife in my mouth and i take the knife out of my mouth and i say you look in the camera. I said i will be the final st joe's so when you saw the first one you wanted to play way. But what did you just want to do this for the adventure. I'm gonna say it had nothing to do about the money. Am i right or am. I wrong about that. It honestly honestly for me at that time. Had absolutely you know. I wouldn't say that i couldn't use the million dollars but honestly i never thought about the money day that i was out there playing the game i did want to win as bad as anybody out there and the show was new and to be honest with our show was more about surviving the elements especially <hes> <hes> most of the time you know it does come down to who you fall in alliance with and <hes> but for me it was about the challenge it was about the adventure <hes> obviously oldest person on the show. I wanted to <hes> this. You know prove that i could still hold my own with with people thirty years younger than me and more and more than that even <hes> so. That's that's. That's basically what it what it was all about and that's that's probably why lynne spillman didn't think i would be very good because i had made that comment. I said for me. It's really not about the money and <hes> <hes> <hes> it was just about the <hes> the overall challenge of it yeah and that ended up being a thing on the show where when a came time for your number to be up when it gets down to the final five you were the first person and and really one of the the only people in the history of the show that said okay well. You know what let let this be my my time. Let let elizabeth that. She's a a younger person. She's just getting started. Let her go one spot further than me but that's basically what you just said is exactly what happened. <hes> for me like i said wasn't about the money and we knew me and her were the only two left. There's been there myself with only two left from from the kuchi tribe and of course sugars three on from the other trad so we knew or we felt like we were unless we the challenge that we were going next in line so they they actually the three of them actually came from the other tribe actually came to me and said which you wanna go or do you wanna live go for next so they actually gave me the option of fusion. If i wanted to stay another three days and <hes> or did i want to give up my spot and and you know she was younger just getting started of course she's been very very successful now with their life uh-huh which is great so for me. It really wasn't a hard our thing <hes> fad actually you guys had a very special relationship on the show which was a big part of the australian outback and then was such a the america sweetheart during the taping of the show and then she went on to have <hes> you know the this incredible career that nobody could have imagined <hes> would have come out of the show. Do you think that that was because she ended up being on one extra episode of the show because you let her take your spa roger because that's what it came down to two one extra time to do that if she on their era thirty six days back i was or if he was on thirty nine days lack lack lackey was roger i think i think you launched her career. Don't you rob rob. I think he launched her career. Well with rob. Please roger gotta ask you this. I got to ask you. This got to ask you this so so like i said i pretty much know our new that you're out there for the adventure now. Let's play this scenario if you and elizabeth had been the the final two instead attaining colby of course. Would you have told the jury. You wanted elizabeth to win because she was john and maybe needed the money at that point. Would you have said i really want this title. What you have fought to take the title yourself. Oh man that is a tough tough left at that time in my life not honestly not really needing the money you know you know we could always use it but not really needed <hes>. I probably would have done just like i did it. Whenever is <hes> five have obviously it'll probably would've which is a style in today's thing with it being a game. I honestly don't think you know it is a game. Everybody knows that it's a game and <hes> if i was playing the game today <hes> probably wouldn't do it. No <hes> but back actually end yeah probably would've yeah. I think kobe did that didn't copy containable somewhat the same thing yeah i you know he <hes> you know unless he thought that that that he could be and it was a close vote. I think she only one but one i voted. I voted for kobe in the end yeah and looking back you know it was just as deserving but my lord tote. <hes> kobe won. I think of the last last five challenges. I think if i remember correctly dan when we would go to challenge he would actually get a different look on his face. I mean i got i got to watch them and <hes> when we go to he can he his whole facial expression things and he was ready to go <hes> and <hes> so anyway yeah that that was a second place hunter talent so that was a nine hundred thousand dollar here. They're all just park yeah keith yeah. It didn't take key yeah. Somebody asked me today. I said yeah i said i was one of the losers and the guy said a guy who three p._m. Around he said all you came out a winner on that show. I said well. I don't know i said the difference between what i plays and winter and and what i was nine hundred twenty five and that was that was just just the day was about was kidding yeah and that was back when nine hundred twenty five thousand dollars used. I mean something right roger well. It still does i'm don. It'd be a different story. Yeah you still do a lot a hundred twenty five thousand go a long way and then was it a close decision for you between colby and tina you know i knew it was going and i told them and really we never discussed it with anybody. I don't know if some of the other people discuss among ourselves else but nobody ever asked me who. I was voting for not not elizabeth. I didn't ask her. We didn't discuss it and <hes> and i don't even remember who she voted good for you truth but anyway i ended up voting for kobe and it was it was a tough choice and <hes> but i am one and all of those challenges that in <hes> hum put himself right in <hes> you know into the finals outwit outlast outplay and i i just i just felt like maybe he'd done just a little little bit better than tina. Although eighteen is a very very nice person and so it was colby. I'm real good friends with both of them <hes> but i thought maybe he did fifty five percent and she did forty five percent or something like that. I and elizabeth cast her vote for teen in a win because we're not on okay page that day okay. Let's say we like. I said we never did never did discuss that. I was thinking they're in pain. They got to go and fish and then tino could fish a little bit. You know how to fish <hes> lisbeth worse. When we were <hes> before the tribes merged i told her out how to fish and and we would go. That's probably why we became such good friends. 'cause we were out there fishing. She'd go with me every day and <hes>. I don't know why some of the other people didn't go obin anyway so <hes> you know on a show like that. I've come to the conclusion if he was ever in a a real survival situation asian. We'll say twenty people you'd have some people that would just sit on the beach and moan and groan about woe is me you know why why am i in this situation. Is it getting up doing something about it and <hes> and you had you know we had a lo- most of the people on our show. I figured there'd be a few slackers. <hes> and there was one or two <hes> that <hes> didn't. I didn't feel that carry their load and i was ready to vote them out early early on but anyway and you know we talked about voting going to travel council. They didn't show me being in the mix really as much as i actually was. I every travel council that i went to of course everybody always thinks they always know who's going to get what but i knew and was right. Every time when we went to a tribal oh council the person. I thought was going to be voted. Out was the person that got voted out even tonight. I got voted out. I do you know give give myself up there for. Let's oh yeah now roger. I suspect that you know this. I need to say it because you are somebody who <hes> i i don't i think that <hes> you get the credit for this because you started something that has become now a fixture on not just survivor but the big brother and all of these shows even the amazing race. Sometimes people don't always tell what their occupation in is or sometimes they end up giving an occupation out to everybody that is something that might paint them in a better light and you were the first person to ever do this on one of these shows yeah. I was just gonna tell him. I was this farmer you know and <hes> washing machines that on the front porch and you know things like that worst school or whatever so yeah they were. I think one of the questions they ask are who which survivors has a master's degree and i don't. I don't think any of them. I don't think any of them put my name. Yeah remember that long ago yet so can you talk a little bit about that. So did you feel like that by telling them that. You had a masters degree and that yeah that you were a college professor. I have the right well. No i'd actually been running the bank. Tell you the truth okay and <hes> and done a lot of other things that put in a subdivision and put in a mobile home park <hes> and then i bought another mobile home park and then i bought a lumber company and hardware store so i i'd done several several the thing that i never did mentioned any of that yeah on on the show so in your mind when you said okay. I'm going to tell everybody that i'm a farmer. Was it because that you wanted did them to potentially underestimate you. That did not know how how capable you were in all these other fields or or was it that you were concerned that they would think that if you were a person of means then that would be a reason to get rid of you. I'm <music>. I'm i'm. I'm certainly not what you call real wealthy. I am good enough. You know it was just time to take care of myself. <hes> pretty pretty nicely and ya yeah i just felt like one of the people out there made comment talking about this mad about different things that some of the people had and they said well. It didn't think they just deserved it because they already had a lot and i looked at him. I said well. I said if we do that. We should have just told filled out a financial statement and now they could set in some office. Look those over and leland nancy out here but through this misery narva today and we did we were our show was i. I lost thirty five around thirty six days <hes> and and i i caught conservative <hes> well when my scooping was still on the show one day he catch most fish next day. I get most fish after he got hurt and had to be lifted out. I caught conservatively seventy five or eighty percent of the fish caught by the entire group <hes> but you know also smart enough to know you know as long as i was putting food in her mouth they wouldn't go to big hurry to vote me out. I didn't think <hes> i i felt like our show is more about surviving mother nature <hes> than the shows <hes> later on. I think the survivor <hes> <hes> africa show was was extremely physically demanding. I know when i was in l._a. Trying out for survivor to if i heard this one wanted heard it thirty times from the people out there that was interviewing me or giving me testee but say survivor two is going to be physically much more demanding then survivor one ever thought about being. Are you sure you want to do this. That's the thing to be the the phrase for all of them to use. Are you sure you wanna do this because it's going to be much more physically demanding and and they they they actually did didn't make it pretty rough on i thought <hes> but but anyway it was it was an adventure of a lifetime <hes> <hes> i would love to have done it again. They have called me on four other occasions asians and then never have taken me. They called me whereas i'm not a spring chicken anymore. Although i do even though i'm seventy to go to the gyms to three three times a week and and usually lift more weights and what guys in their forty it'd be perfectly on break and that's just the fact and so i do. I do to try to stay in shape. They called you today at seventy two what you go oh yeah yeah i can. I can do fifty push ups. I doubt of her third third. That's great that yeah again it. That's not chicken feed for me to oh you know she can go nuts because he used to eat it yeah yeah we did eat so that. That was my idea. 'cause i've done that you know in in around the farm you know even if grain and it's got molasses in it and <hes> you know i've done that for years so we got the chicken feed that one day eating it and they said there's some of 'em so what are you doing so well. I mean this chicken feed and <hes> so then we ended up using my hat to stiffed. Sift it out. 'cause we get the best out al and 'cause i had had on it is like a mesh hat and so they all got to eat and then they got to france and if someone would pop up like popcorn and <hes> yeah the only problem all had with it would it would give all of us gas on now so that was the only downfall to it. <hes> you know rudy played at seventy two forty. Oh and he blasted today thirty thirty eight so roger. My money's on you know went back to the end dome and never did like me. I don't worry about roger well. That's that's what i know. Of course i'm not kidding or it's the i'd wrote her a letter and it was a very nice letter and this may be one reason why she quit calling me but anyway they'd had one show. I think you all probably know more about this where they had twelve people from california how the sixteen on the show and and i may not be right on that but that's what i looked up time and that was what i thought it was and i may be wrong. Yeah maybe but i think i'm right so i wrote her. A letter. I said and the ratings were down. I don't which was on that show and i wrote a nice letter. Course i knew knew the address where to send it but never did hear nothing back but in the end that said you know if you're gonna you know we have all these people from california. You may want to changed name to survivor california survivor you know i was i was very nice about it but and you know the reason i did that because i love the game yeah. Their ratings were down. I usually don't do things like that but the ratings were down and it's common sense that if you've got people people from different states that people in that state are going to be a lot more involved and have somebody to root for just like when i was on. I was teaching school up here. Grant county ask with that time and <hes> i was getting so many emails i would get to school at five o'clock in the morning to answer my emails and i answered there but one of them back before school started at at eight and <hes> that just goes to show you know and it's the same way somebody by from indiana you know you're going to have the people from indiana route farm or north carolina or so <hes> the last time she called me. Eh gone blood or no is mike. She knows exactly what mark burnett once you and mike scooping <hes> go to the next show in guatemala well. If you remember they ended up bringing back bobby john and i think stephanie the on it but originally we were we were going to be on that one and then they called me on the blood versus water. He'll <hes> and of course my daughter. She sent in a in a tape of herself and and of course we didn't get picked for that one so anyway yeah yeah i would go. I'm not the fires fast not quite as springy as i was strength wise. I'd probably be own with most of them. In their forties and fifties <hes> <hes> would think pretty pretty pretty easily now roger you mentioned that you have been following. What's been going on with the show. He's talking about how the game team has has changed. How close do you follow survivor. <hes> all these years later. I've watched every show people. Have i still have people ask me all the time the show what did you think about this or about that and so i always been up not home outfitters to tape and the show has definitely changed. You'd better be on your feet hits the hits dirt or when you're able able to talk you better be formed an alliance and just hope and pray you formed with somebody. That's that's that's going to be halfway truthful in loyalty. <hes> uh-huh i it's very it's very very little about surviving the elements surviving mother nature now it's all about you know forming alliances and <hes> <hes> and backstabbing and <hes> <hes> you know things things of that nature for me. I really enjoyed the survivor part of it. Being from the country i mean i know we had. They had an old lantern there. They'd give lantern well. There was a kerosene or whether it'd be a couple of them. Got it out there one night one. I don't wanna knew how to light it and you know when i was a kid. Growing up didn't have electricity in the barn. That's where we'd use when we go to the barn lantern yeah and and then there was another time when we got chickens. Well not a one on one of them do how to get the feathers off. Those chickens and i always thought if i just kept my mouth shut that could've eh a very very funny because your season in the australian outback was about a group of people versus the the elements so just as much as it was a group of people playing the game of survivor <hes> against the running there were there were things that you know that there there were definitely moments with different people especially in the first half of the season <hes> lhasa but between the conditions that you guys ended ended up facing and then there was that super dramatic moment where the flood happened roger at a little bit about that when the flood came and wash wash the rice away yeah wash rice way now we had set up our camp in what they called a dry creek bed now. They showed a little bit of this on t._v. Show near as much of we actually did a hand vote on her. 'cause that was adamantly adamant against building our campsite subsites in where we built it in creek. I even turned around. I said you also there was a big gully coming down down to where they was wanting to build her. I did you see that big gully washed out. I grow standing there. I said sometime or other. There's water comes down at gully could've took you down in eastern kentucky techy down the mountain any any fourth grade kid would mode you don't it should tent right for the big golly comes down to rewrite but so we actually actually and kobe was against the two well we actually did a hand vote on that and i lost and so we built our campsite right right there well. We're away at a challenge on it and the also the down for. I actually thought it was a hurricane. The trees were bending over over and it was lightning it was it was dangerous to be out in in the woods the way it was like i mean we were all little <hes> <hes> taken back by for that because i mean we were in we were in a bad situation with all that lightning where we get back camp and sure enough everything had washed away. I'd say everything <hes>. I had taken a bible as my <hes> item that i could take with me. Neighbors land on a high spot right in the camp and virtually everything else. It'd gotten wiped way but honestly that bible was still still in right there. Wow where where where. I left but <hes> anyway the rice got worst way and that was a very very dangerous <hes> things that tina they did and then keith there was a big tree blow down. This water was rushing down through there. He goes out on this tree and the water is up about ankle deep and i told him i said keith i said if you fall off that key off the tree backwards down underneath that i said you're gonna get caught up in a limb. I said they won't get you out of there. Goes down and that was that was an extremely dangerous thing for him. Do it done. I mean very i tried to talk him out of it but he went on out on it and then of course teen and went downstream or she was excellent excellent swimmer yeah and <hes> and she was able to swim. I am out there was like a little owl and outer river and was able to get over and that rice had gotten stuck over there on that on some tree branches aware and they were able to get that rice and bring it back and <hes> otherwise all that would've would've been gone another time where where they show on t._v. But when the two tribes merged together we had to of course the man had to go down to where the women were bryant so we get down there well. The river is about three times hams wider than what what it was. When the show i started and we crossed it went across the first time i found a great big <hes> tree i i i mean it was pretty good size. It was all i could do to carry it and it was just a short piece about ten feet long but it was pretty big diamond. I carried it up. Earn owed it out in award and i floated off with a tree well. We can't back down there. The two tribes merge under rivers about three times wider literally then it was one of the cross the first time in the waters moving on well. I got a one of the containers were watering and it was about half full and i thought well i can float that thing will float a little bit and i can dog paddle so i kinda everybody jumps in takes off and they all you know they're all leaving me and i'm trying to to hold onto that thing and dog palo for about ever about ever foot that i would go towards the bank. I'd go about three feet downstream. Yeah so you know that's that's. That's that's that's that's that's the wrong direction so heinous saw me and this was actually the first contact we'd ever had seen her at a challenge she he saw me so she comes swimming out and grabbed a hold of the container with me and and <hes> said just keep kicking you feet and so she brought me hebrew may across the other either the other side that they did. They didn't show that on t._v. Roger if i could just touch on that moment you're talking about where you went to go and they they told me okay. Send your men to this camp and so so you and jeff and nick thought you were going to go and then you were going to go to the other camp and then with tina amber and jerry and then they they switched it up on you but they send they send <hes> the the way the women to go and then have the the meet up. I loved that scene and so it was so funny and then when you get there you guys are talking about how you were expecting. The women and coby says to you like will roger got if if you if you want to put a skirt on for ya as if we were all we were all full you know look up and see them. Big ugly men coming in a he's a little nicer looking ladies would be would become so yeah we <hes> they actually came to me and actually came to our camp and dan metaphor and then our women went to the went to the other camps so yeah that was a that was kind of funny funny moment. We were all a little little down on that. I don't know why you know it really didn't matter but we just had. We just had it in her mind that that was the way it was going to was going to be so that that was just another thing they did. Uh i'll tell you one other thing they did when they when the show i started they put us on that military planes or that's the way they start to show well that plane was i wasn't actual australian military plane it had oversized engines on it and could land and take off off in the shortest distance of any place that they had in the military at that time so when they threw the coldest that thing you know but the throttle i mean that you you know you could you could definitely feeling well right before we got on the plane. They had this table setup outside during all kinds of fruit drinks punch and bananas naipaul's new orleans away and they said overload on all that stuff i even see so you're going to need it when you get you know you're not gonna have any of that in the outback so we're over there just challenge on down just gorge as much of that stuff we still weren't able to talk the other we weren't allowed to stay award eating as much as that as we get then we board that after we get done doing that we board that plane and then for an hour and a half that thing is up and down and sideways and litter uh-huh strapped in against the wall because that's what it was a military plane and that thing would go would bank and you could look across the playing at the wind is across the hall and you see the land ital- stick that thing was going in and out there for an hour and a half and bunch of people got got sick naturally so <hes> lebron got just about up to my chin. Oh so i was able to keep it all down but a lot of them didn't how did you come about. I think you've got the name kentucky joe out there in australia. How did who gave you that nickname <hes> alicia give me that name. She seemed to thank. I had an accident. I i thought myself and tina was the only tennessee was the only two that spoke normal out there but <hes> she's they seem to think i had an accident it and <hes> so one day she just hollered. Hey kentucky joe and and even now here in the state of kentucky. Somebody will say you know down the mountain israel through they'll say <hes> roger bam that name sounds from it and they'll say kentucky joe and say oh yeah kentucky yeah they they do you remember the name kentucky joe. Which is fine did you did your life change at all from being on survivor. Especially on one of the most infamous seasons change it all for the best astorg back really quickly well. Well no not really too quickly. Mark burnett when they came in at the last finale now. They come in the night coming to address. Marigny was talking to me and he said are you sure you're ready for all this after survivor. I said yeah i said it. I'm thinking myself or you know. Maybe a month three months tops well. I i did appearance this for a good year and a half solid. I mean i was going somewhere every weekend. Flying all over the united states. I was in canada three times and these were paid paid events. Yeah you guys relinquish it. I'm not kidding her. It was a thousand. It was a thousand times more than i ever thought it would be. I know i went in the first income that i had it going to be crazy. Yeah i went in. I live in grand county here. All my life and in kentucky doc in crittenden lived here all my life i had at that time. I was teaching school for a few years. Well the show aired. They wanted me to come over to the middle school because they were doing on <hes> challenges. Well i go in over there to middle school and the grade school and those kids crazy and all these kids know me. I've lived around here on the la yeah which i thought i'm going wrong but they were cheering for me and i thought that the isn't that nice and i was. I was quite like taken back by it is true so that was the first thing commission and <hes> but it was a good time and you know even though i didn't win survivor he'll make pretty decent money. They had a great time at just world of great people all over the united states and did a thing up in canada kentucky fried chicken and worn in florida for proctor and gamble and then oh commercials and public <hes> speaking of law lot of ican engagements <hes> just but it was a fun fun time. Did you have an agent yeah. I did actually had an agent isn't that crazy and he did. The bookings for me. Took care of the you know they. They're who somebody more me to come and speak you know they'd pay for the plane flight and hotel and they had two. She took care of all that booking and sample for me. I've wondered you know out of the sixteen of y'all how many agents all of y'all have agents or do you might <hes> you may or may not know that <hes> honestly don't know tina. Did i know and <hes> of course <hes> elizabeth they did <hes> and and really the rest of them. I honestly don't know so roger. I know you keep up with the show that <hes> did you follow the season that a another fellow kentucky and went on to win with nick yeah. I tell you a little story about kentucky nick before he made it on survivor. There is a piece of property up here at the courthouse steps that was going up for sale well well. I went up there to bid on the property and he was there from eastern kentucky <hes> representing somebody and dan when we get done. He came up to me. He said he said aren't you guys. There's on survivor. I said yeah talk to him for ten or fifteen minutes. They're just nice nice yeah and then of course you've seen on t._v. And said don't don't give up trying. I said your age and everything. I said so then he then he made it on on so i was. I was tickled to death or yeah. He went onto win went on to win yeah. Have you seen him n._c. One yes i have i've been at event with him. <hes> charity event up in <hes> ohio <hes> since he tried to borrow some money for him but he so you're not only did you launch elizabeth's career you launched kentucky nick into into getting in survivor and winning right rob you where yeah you start commissions and some of this stuff yeah no it he had already been in an application and i but i but i told him i said some people. Have you know that i've heard that have got on. You know if i've been trying for several years and i said don't don't don't give up so i don't know if he's back in or or if he got called right after that but <hes> yeah i'd actually met him before he or he ever on survivor so i was tickled death and eddie that he made it roger. Can i ask you a little bit about your coochie tried that you played with that. You guys were the aid of you together whether it's very iconic tribe. Can you tell us about what it was like to play with. Deb eaten debbie deb was a very nice lady lady. <hes> maybe a little bit on the ball. He sat and set in her ways. Nothing wrong with that <hes> but i knew that they they would be looking at me. You know they always look at the oldest person. I was the oldest person on my trap by quite quite a bit. I guess that's fifty three. I don't the next one that would have been probably ten or twelve years younger than me at that time but anyway i knew and from what i understand watching the show they were actually looking at me goes. I think elizabeth went went ended up going to bat for me. I didn't know that it's time but anyway that we're sitting around there or laying around or the first night or two and some <hes> some some of the girls were expelling gas and she took <hes> he didn't like that and it was voicing their opinion opinion about it and that was before you got corn yeah that was before that s- and i mean it got. It got a little heated. She got a little mad and i'm. I'm actually be honest with you. I'm laying there smiling because i knew then i said you're digging your own grave and i said i thought to myself. They're going to be looking at her. They're not going to be looking at may i enough. That's that's exactly what happened and i knew going in. I if i can stick around you days if this is a real survival situation but which it actually honestly was <hes> you know we could have called for but you know you were out on your own. I knew that i could probably do more than anybody else as far as being able to ride for the group and building shelters and fires and things like that there's only one other person out there that was that's coulda got along with that. If my scooping myself had just been the two of us out back we could have got along very well living out there because he he knew he knew who <hes> what to do but other than that <hes> to be honest with the rest of them didn't have any knowledge well hardly whatsoever about how to survive in a real survival situation <hes> there again. I've always read those. I've got i've got a couple of videos radio's on youtube along with me making <hes> fire with a bow and drill another one with a magnesium stick and <hes> and then another one <hes> stranded in my old forty six jeep and i'm able to build a fire using g. and different things like that. I've actually been trying to get on the lone. Survivor hadn't called back. I don't know if you've ever watched. That's there again. That's that's a pretty pretty tough show but anyway say cradle yeah that is brutal. Do you gotta know what you're doing so roger. The abbey was actually forty five so she wasn't that far age wise from you but just as like you said when i guess she was getting into with arner when she was knocked off and then looking at you again the go ooh and they'll kill you and kimmy was kimmy and aleisha got into it with each other so that that pushed kimmy out the door yeah that that's that helped push and i'm sitting there thinking when they got into that hassle i started to go up there and get in between them and i thought if if i do that either one of the two are both of them are gonna be mad at me. That was a you know. One of the two would probably going to be mad at me if not both on so. I just had a well. They're both grown women. I'm just gonna stand back now. I started swinging or something we to jump in which it didn't look like it was going to come to that. Maybe are there for a second or two but <hes> jimmy kept all of the water <hes> and that <hes> boiled up and to be honest when he that was an all day job nonstop keeping enough water boiled for us to drink. You had to do that all day long and of course i don't know you know drinking. That warm water or is not much fun. Neither the yeah yeah the only thing that i actually craved out there was i man i would give anything for a a big. Oh <hes> talk anything with ice in it roger. I know that there was also some conflict over. When you guys has got the chickens we talked about the chicken feed but there was some discussion about when to eat. The chickens and kimmy was is not a fan of of that. How how did you feel about all of the drama that was going on over the chickens. Well you know she got to give them names aims and that's a mistake. I live on arm. I never give an animal. Do you start becoming too attached to that and <hes> i know my fiancee. She's mentioned when i said. Why don't you give them names then. You don't want to get rid of them. Well kimmy was a vegetarian and <hes> we did make a sacrifice some of they were laying eggs so we let we could ever heard of the aids or eat those but <hes> i like the chicken i was tickled to death to get those yes and <hes> <hes> when we were deciding to process. One of them said how we're gonna do it. I said well going max. What is the most humane anyway to do it so <hes> that was that was what we ended up doing and then i think some of 'em ended up doing that yourself. I think elizabeth did that once. I think uh-huh used in exon one of you know if you're playing a game lack survivor. You know it's it's a little tough on you could go after and you're vegetarian. You know you gotta you gotta. Keep your strength up. I don't know how much weight they lost their before she before she got voted out but <hes> all of us everybody on on our show and was towards the last was starting to have <hes> dizzy spells. If you were wasn't just me because i was the oldest everybody everybody was asking. If you were laying down or squatted down and would go to stand up. You'd have a major major dizzy. I mean major. I've never experienced that before survivor and i've never experienced it after survivor but i did experience that while i was on the show and <hes> they actually stand in a doctor. Maybe i shouldn't be telling us they sent in a doctor about weathers of us left right before i got the axe cook each quite bets the beer thank goodness yeah yeah but anyway the doctor fifty one of us out of camp and <hes> and examined each one does not come to find out one of the show producers that had gone on the mark burnett and it it tell him that some people they didn't think was going to be able to finish the show <hes> if they didn't get get a little bit more to eat does getting so weak and so he took us all out and examined each on and i don't know what he did for the other folks. He just examined me and sent me back. I guess my vitals were okay but lisbeth hair was actually coming out. Yeah you could pull out a clump her. I remember and then that's that's. That's getting pretty pretty serious yeah when you when you can do and that's why scooping allow fire he was squatted down by the fire higher and we had been fishing that day and i actually formed alliance that day and was going to ask a list of course we you know i'm sure she would go in with and then i get out of the new downstream to use the bathroom facilities which was a big tree that was blowed over anna. Eh find some leaves so i'm outta get out downstream and he comes on up into camp and then he squatted down there and he goes to stand up and he has one and dizzy spells downey goes right into the fire so that was not a very the other trump. I i think i had had read it that jerry mantha that crazy gerrymander you gotta love her. She's when they heard that something had happened only other trop op which was mike into the fire. They thought that jerry thought that you had had a stroke. What i feel go to mike her for that yeah. I'm the oldest dealer you go. He was appointed five or thirty thirty five thirty at that time. I don't know what she was <hes> thirty. That's what i thought well three. She thought i was an old man and <hes> the first thing i remember that or saying that what i had a stroke the nerve of that young girl roger. I do want to ask you about <hes> so i i don't know if this is something that you have any insight into but before your season started there was a lot of rumors about you and that you would would fallen off a horse and you. Do you know what i'm talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about. That was that was i. I think that was just put out there to be false false information so you used to do this. They would put out like fake news to throw people off the sense. Yes yes asked to throw off his stanton. That's exactly what that was all about getting people off the stand and <hes> i don't have any more. I have had a horse on on the farm every year. Well my dad had horses on the farm but last ten years my old horse finally died and i just never did get another one the out if anybody had been on all of our been one of them city field would have been made yeah well. Let me set this up because i see trees threes you. Do you know what i'm talking about. Yes i remember the bird siebert have any idea what what what i'm talking about. No not so i remember i i remember this vividly where i i was super into the first season of survivor and i remember i was driving back up to my college in oswego new york mark and i remember they must have talked about it on the radio because there was no like i wasn't like on the internet looking for these things like hey survivor the australian outback. It's gonna the premier after the super bowl. Well guess what there's a guy who that he's fallen off a horse and was very badly hurt during the the filming of this yeah so did you and they talked and it was this guy roger. I don't know if they piece it together. Together didn't wants the cast came out that you must have been the person but when they riding horses. I guess they thought i was doing it out here on my arm or something on but yeah that was that was i think it was supposed to be been me that fell off a horse and i thought why would they pick me. Because i'm fifty three. I said i i'll be right a horse better than ninety percent of the rest of the group that was on the show <hes> anyway yeah that that's some of the stuff that they do now. When when we was in australia <hes> one one day <hes> <hes> one of the producers come into camp which they never ever ever did and said that there was a plane flying over trying to get photographs of us so they made all of us. They ian told us to stay in our shelter that we built as much as we could. <hes> we heard a plane to hide behind a tree and so they posibly now i didn't see this but this is what we were told happen they people up to look back us even at me with some guy with green hat on <hes> like like i wore on the show and paraded them which they were people that work for survivor you know a crew raided them around out in the outback and the plane went <music> over got pictures of them and so then come back and said all they got pictures of the survivor was and then some of the crew dressed up. That's how crazy atlas back. You know people trying to get get get pitchers. Yeah wow it's wild. They this length think of <hes> of of doing. I mean i remember in in survivor all stars that they brought us all to the tribal council one night and then they made us all even though i was voted out in my first trip to tribal council my sick in trip to the job accounts but they brought us there one night and they they just made a sit in all these different shares of like okay now. Let's sit these two together. Let's these two together and they took these pictures and so these i used to do a lot of stuff offs to try to combat. Any spoilers are out there. Yes yes yeah very interesting. Do amazing links to do that and that i'll be a good thing here are spoiler sites. You can get on and <hes>. I don't know why date them roger. I just this the correct and i did not enjoy watching that stays in the whole season neighbor correct so i don't ever ever do that. Enjoy watching the show. I love love the show. It's a great concept. Mark burnett hirsch rate guy. I don't know if he was around when you all were filming your old show but we would see mark burnett. Every time we went to a challenge or want to travel council. We never did talk to him. He would be standing over to the side but now he was there. When we boarded the plane and come around around <hes> in our hearts where we were staying and looked at the close that we had laid out and <hes> each one of us went in individually and sit down the kitchen table there talk to him and jeff popes and <hes> nice guys both both of whom are very very very nice rob. I don't know if mark burnett was out there but he was out there. In africa also he was there with this two ways and his wife at that time so yeah i wonder now i'm sure it's changed a lot as far as that goes but it was cool because he was out there the whole time on africa to with with his boys behind the scene so that was it's neat bill roger. What do you think about all the idols and twist ed to extinction and all that and how would you play now compared to back in all season two if if you had all these idols twist and things i think it's i think it's bad it's <hes> more excited but you know if they just kept the same thing over and over and over it but i do sorta hate it. They've they've gone away from <hes> more of the actual survival part of the show you know. Where are your actual trying to strive against mother nature i do. I don't like that part too much but the <hes> yeah all these other wish i. I think it's an interesting. I'm i'm amazed sometime. How some people just sat around and don't go out and look over. You have some shows where people don't even seem like they want to go. Look for an idol and <hes> there's been some people. I wonder sometimes how they found yeah. He's they same for season thirty nine. They're gonna have adviser sandra in boston rob. You think boston rob either one could given you enough information to have gotten us. I use instead of being the fifth one voted out. You could have one you think they could have given you something to help you. <hes> well honestly early on you mean. If i was going on now never had been on a show passably yeah yeah you know of course it's been <hes> who thousand one when my share show aired but yeah if he was going on now and <hes> was a fan of the show. I'm sure they could probably have some insight. You know let's face it. Both of them have once andrews won twice. Yeah and boston rob's one and then boston rob's wife or his one and <hes> so yeah i would. I would think that they probably could use some <hes> help. Roger guy's voice foyer. If you're going to go back give me a call when horses well. I can still ride hours. Take you to put that thirty five pounds back on that. You lost well well. That's about what i put back on to. <hes> i started out you know trying not to put it back on and that seems to be the natural weight with thirty five pounds. That's where i've been for aged. I was actually weighed what i weighed when played basketball in high school when i got off of survivor i mean i had to go out and bowel new wardrobe. All my pants just hung on me. They'd follow right also me when i come off the show and i know africa show was like that and <hes> so it. It took me a while. I do love my green. You know stay in touch with with many of the players now from your season roger once in a while. Few of us will talk la. I'll talk to her. Maybe once every year or two and live the same way maybe once every year to <hes> actually keep in touch touch with big. Tom tell you truth <hes> he's he's been up to my place and i've been down the is placed time. We've been met and on a couple of u._k. Basketball games teams together and we kind of have a lot of talk about him. Being the farmer you know growing up on a farm and <hes> you know. It's kind of funny honey. They showed him as big. Tom being a poor old goat farmer well. He did have and i know one hundred two hundred and fifty goats really also got twelve hundred acres runs thousands the cattle that and you know same way with me my when they'd come out here to film on my farm <hes> the bar and i had at that time of tornadoes taking it down since then but anyway i put new metal body on the front and both sides the back of it couldn't be seen from the road well l. every time they'd come to film. We go around to that backstab born one never had metal saudi but <hes> that's that's where they'd always film which didn't didn't matter to me. One day we was around are filming and i didn't know this later mark burnett <hes> seen him later on after that and he come up to me was asking into my candle was up our backup. I mean they was filming well. The <hes> the cow and the one of my heifers decides to get frisky he right there by oh they they had all of that on on on t. averted. Do you have anything <hes> as a special questions for roger well. I wanted to ask roger so you appeared on the view with elisabeth the best. What was it back in a few years now two thousand thirteen twice actually. I don't remember what your meal l. What did you how did she bring you out. Or what. Did you talk about in the first time. She didn't know i was coming. The view had contact may and they they kept me here in a back room back in there and she didn't know that i was going to be there so now the second time i am that i went <hes> she knew that i was that i was coming up is coming with her and my fiance pammy and her daughter and then and us us and some other folks and <hes> so she you know ranged i take to get into the view and what have you actually went two days. We've found out that guys. It was from <hes> from louisiana with the beards. I came back their names now lord. They were very popular headed show on t._v. Maybe they make duck calls duck dynasty data guys yeah. My fiance found out that they was going to be there the second day so only ended up going back to days. 'cause we want to see the i mean we did. We went backstage matama very very nice guys under just as they appear on t._v. Uh-huh i wanted to ask him to just kind of cross my mind i know you you didn't have any interaction with kale but after the fact ah you're watching it back. Did you find out detail actually have beef jerky. Does anybody really know for sure okay. All i can tale was on the other track. All i can say is the the night of the live finale. We're out in cal- route in l._a. Away and <hes> i go in a room. There's nobody but <hes> the amber was in there. Kobe was in their jury was in there and somebody else. I went in and closed the door and i said okay well. I got you all in here. I said i wanna know. One thing. I said did kill have beef jerky wedding and they all said yes okay so that's okay i don't. I don't know any other her thing about that. He was on a different tribe but that's what they all say. He was in here with you. When you ask calendar windmills kale was not in no no. They're tracking down see if he can find him. Let's get let's get. We'll ask him directly. Yes yeah. I i you know you don't have. I'm just telling you what was told to me so you know i have no way of knowing for sure because i was not on that trap but all all four of them definitely said he had of course jury was the only one that's o._b. Seeing seeing it or they might have if my memory serves correctly so <hes> <hes>. I don't know they did they did check all of arc or a backpack more before we were playing we had to empty everything else uh-huh and they went around and checked and made sure we didn't have anything in there. You know if you were supposed to have one pair of socks you add on for socks. <hes> you know to shirt shed ed to shirts no no food or nothing like that so they did. They did check hall roger. We got frisk with africa. Guests guess that was because of the kelp and the beef jerky thing for africa the next season we got body. I felt like going through t._s._a. Shirt that didn't often again told you that they just wanted to free elated. I'd really looking. I understand that you know since the you know if they had it and i don't like i said i cannot say for sure he did. I wouldn't on that crap but when i went in that room and seeing who it was i shut the door behind me because i wanted to ask him and i just asked him point blank and they all said that he did have so. I don't know okay haven't seen or heard from kale stamps show. Nobody has no. Where's camping deb okay from roger. Thank you bird dobbs birds anymore questions for roger. Well let me tell you a little bit about what i'm doing now. As you all <hes> of course yeah no both your hitched. I'm building a wedding venue on my par- whoa we called bingham seventy acre farm twenty eight miles south of cincinnati. He's right in kentucky right off the interstate building a wedding venue. That'll sleep three hundred people hitching dressing rooms a fancy gazebo out back and <hes> you know fame. I want to get hitched in another few months here in the construction phase right now in fact that's where i was at seven o'clock morning till come back up here. Let them thirty to wake talk to you. Find folks so everybody wants to get hitched. Hey we'll you'll have a website up and running and they can contact like i said tammy cornet fiancee. She's <hes>. She does all my all my facebook book stuff and that's where you're going to get married once it's ready. That's if i can get her to this side of the river. She loves ohio and her daughter lives in ohio wyo and i've been she's definitely going to be helping me with thin you. I mean a lot and <hes> but no this is open for anybody that wants to get married a kitchen and like i say this <hes> amish made goods ibo outback antigua's ebo hated noor conditions <hes> and and <hes> so anyway yeah so in a little closer here save rob rob unicol could renew your vows there yeah yeah. I think that you just had your second child a year or two ago. Is that right yeah. I've got to have two two boys that are there three and five okay well. I haven't read the i've done a little research and you see what you've been up to and i think yeah nothing like him young and did our best best years. Eli yeah well <hes> <hes> i i'll do. It doesn't always feel like <hes>. I gotta keep perspective yeah. That's right yeah okay t-bird anything else roger roger. I just will say roger. Thank you so much. I missed. I missed meeting you last month big tom. She was supposed to be at big arms. I know something came up. So this was the second time i was there. I was hoping to meet you so i'm so glad we got into talk today. You and i have a bond. We were both voted out in a fits position on day. Thirty six went out in africa. So why did they vote us. Who is you know we. We both deserved to win. Well hey so roger. I was the very last one of my tribe that was left so i was the very last one so you would have been the last one left if you hadn't have sacrificed yourself or or elizabeth so said this at the beginning so i guess i'll just finish with this. Yes i mean you are a perfect candidate with your resume. Even you know the the mature age of three and and i feel sure it seventy two to you could go out there stronger than ever with your in a given with his love and respect as you are. Were back then and still. Are you know i would love to see you play again and i'm not gonna count that out so thank you so much with us today. Thank you very much robert the bird nice talking to you too and <hes> it's been an enjoyable which we've been on about an hour or so maybe longer now all right. We'll keep our fingers anger cross for you congratulations on the the engagement and hope to <hes> see some of those wedding pictures on facebook eventually. Are you go there you go. I do too yeah yeah. Thanks a lot roger okay bye-bye taber t. burr they go another great one bird awesome. Oh my gosh that was so you know what i rob. I think i think we made a mistake. Did you say at the beginning before we started. This was our talk of a taper. This was our tent interview artisans conversation. No it was the nine eight nine nine. I looked so we gotta do something big for ten okay. It's not really an exclusive. No i don't have an exclusive in the problem. Got going now is now. I've gotta do not fly list her. You per our last conversation that we had so. I didn't even check with you about roger or i talk with them because i figured if rogers on the do not fly list. We might as well in this whole in in the series now if roger was on the do not fly list so i didn't approval for roger. I have been told i'm living in oh you do when you check with that. I i would prefer if you would like like say hey how about this person and then i say yes i know but this is it. If you tell me no not gonna beg you and played with you. Please let me have on because those are the guests that are going to be really good because of the maybe a little bit. I don't want controversy but it just might make it a little bit the drama and everything okay i'll go. I'll make sure i talked not i i we because i i know the audience. I know what they like. I know the audience i've been. I've been podcasting with for for nine years with them. I know i know what they're looking for. How you not only dan you just went to a three or four day similar how to be a podcast or in orlando and you're talking hyphen and everything so. I guess i'm going to have to know you've got the credentials now for sure <hes> all right all right. Hey so this is your question for today. This is your question question for today so in tokyo just like big. Tom farmers and we talked about how he said he wears big. Tom um is always in overall everyday and even kentucky joe said when he's pouring cement. He's in overalls as well so anyway. I found this really. The thing i thought was so interesting and this is you know only overalls pants even just on regular jeans now. What are you wearing right now inappropriate britt. I'm wearing shorts. I'm sure somewhere with this. I'm going with this. You have on shorts. I thought you might let's ride is tommy. It's maybe jeans okay. Do you know if your hat on a pair of jeans. There's a little tiny baby so you're left of your genes. I mean just such a little baby baby. What is that teeny tiny pocket. It's too small for anything. What what is it used for. Could you put your key in their t-bird. Okay well you can but then if you try to sit down is going to be a big algae because it's gonna get you right. They are new hip which you could use whatever but the reason so the reason they they still make the teeny tiny pockets pants is actually from the waist overalls so way back in the eighteen hundreds when they made the overall sir that little pocket was made for something now that you know it was done in the the eighteen hundreds. Was that little teeny tiny pocket. I was gonna guess a prophylactic but i now. I don't think that that was common. Common then so i don't i don't know t-bird okay. It's four little pocket watches okay. Let's cute yeah. Yeah it in some still still had that little teeny tiny pocket not just on waist overalls but now just on regular <music> jeans because just to kind of preserve the integrity of the levi strauss jeans are there you go there. You go t quiring. Hiring minds go good good job. Great work wayne the tiny tiny pockets yet between the teeny tiny pockets on the overall the wearer's cal. You know thanks you you you need to know is. We've got to find out okay great job. You've done it again we do. You know i did not know that and i probably should good half. Did you know that they were supposed to jump out of airplanes. Parachute not tandem by themselves for australia. I didn't know that i think i probably should've known that okay. So did you know that they were supposed to ride in on camels the one that <hes> sean was supposed to be they swept the when they were going to do that. I feel like the kid that came up <hes> somewhere. I actually found that in my research that that if it had been in jordan they were supposed to come in on camels okay so we just came in. We just came in on transport trucks came in and i guess that's good. Yes be careful what you wish for. Okay t. bird great job once again. You could follow the great at t. Bird cooper on twitter also is that your instagram. I'm also t-bird. Yes host videos you on a treadmill running and getting said and so you do such a great job with bird. Thank you ross. Thank you very much. I enjoy it. I'm having fun with it. I'm lovin the series. I hope the listeners are enjoying it to instill oh you guys. Send me the request recommendations. I promise you whenever i get one on instagram facebook twitter. I've got a list here of people that you you want whenever i hear him or second or third or fourth or fifth time i've got stars by them. I'm out there looking them up now. We've gotta do not fly but don't worry if we get gone that we're not sure about. We'll talk to us on the do not fly list. He bird. You're making it seem like you only gave me a no but it makes it fun to sites to to say that i only have two to three five hundred some odd survivors like a very small list of people. We're we're not. We're not talking to and so i think we're i think we're fine. I think we're fine. She know the literature crazy right now. Thinking who are who are the three hour no two of the three so once we close this down. I gotta have the third one just in case just in case alright t-bird great job once again thanks to the patrons rob pod gives me make all this podcasting possible find out more about everything we're doing at rob has a website dot com slash patron and we had a really great <hes> facebook friday last week. I made that available that anybody can see on our patriotic page then at hearts of reality one of our patrons john john johnston what's down there and brett lebel took the phone and was going through everybody at hearts of reality so that was really really fun and then john john was finding more people people so if you want to check out what we do on facebook friday which i have coming up later on today you can see that at his website at com slash patron t-bird thank you so much. Take care good by acura news the house this way <music>.

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The Stuttering John Podcast-October 15th, 2020

The Stuttering John Podcast

2:02:14 hr | 10 months ago

The Stuttering John Podcast-October 15th, 2020

"Yeah, baby, welcome to the world famous stuttering John podcast. Let me welcome George M in here. He's a a new person. Hello. Nikki be hope everybody's enjoying your Thursday. It's the weekend coming. Oh got to tell you. I'm a little tired right now. I just pumped behind. and then took a shower try to make it hard boiled eggs and then came up the stairs. There's my link if you want to donate. Sorry. I'm not playing the US's singers until I get my new computer because then everything should be okay. I could play links and not have this inherent problem that I have every single time. There's the link if you want to donate. Hello Mark be a true player. I want to thank again the great congresswoman Carolyn Maloney. I realize when I played it back I said Congressman twice at three times and wage. It's just it's either because you know, you just so used to say in Congress from or it's because I stutter and the W is hard. I don't know which one it is dead. But I do know that it was it was a little embarrassing after I heard it. Hold on. Let me have some non-liquid. All right now will get the show on the road. So there's MyLink. Hello Union goon and also I'd like to thank Richa Dolce Vita who was on and did a great job. And of course, how could we forget? I want to thank the great Noel casler. He was a really great help because Carolyn Maloney is in his district and he's experienced her first hand. So it was kind of nice to hear from him again. I love with no comes on the show. I know. Well you guys love with Knowles on the show. Hello. Amy's. Okay, and I always feel like Zoom remember the show Zoom come on and zoom zoom zoom zoom kemana Zooma Zooma Zooma Zoom. I always feel like that because you know, like you say everyone's name. Oh, no, that was that was the magic garden. Do do you see You had a real good morning to you. Hope for going to see you again. Nana. I remember all these kids shows and they never said hello to John as a little kid home from school if I was sick and he never said hi to John said all the others names like Ethan Nikki and Amy Sue and George M. They said an impish artist. They never said John like what the hell? JC was a Baptist. Anyway, speaking of Christians. I love this new ad not our faith. They put it out and it's just exposing Trump for being just the Antichrist pretty much Donald Trump as far as I'm concerned as the Antichrist. Why do I say that because he represents everything that Jesus wasn't God Jesus didn't steal Trump stole the election. Jesus didn't lie Trump lies every second. He gets Jesus had empathy and compassion Trump could give a frog's fat ass about any of the people that are dying and their families from Covent. Jesus healed Trump's trying to take away your health care. He's every you know, I mean, he's the the seven deadly sins. Yes. He's guilty of all of them gluttony. I mean you name it off. That's Donald Trump. So it was as far as I'm concerned concerned Donald Trump is the Antichrist and I thank you in fish hardest. I just can't even imagine why any of my Christian and Catholic friends would support this though Todd. It's beyond me. I see I have my lawyer friend Andrew Steele our first coming off for that. I want to just say a few things to give me 1 minute Andrew. I am going to do my last beer on the balcony for people who are not patreon members. This is not a punishment to anybody. I love all my fans and I appreciate that. You guys love me and give me the love back and give me the soup of chats and and donate to me directly, but I do have to say that that's one of the things that the patreon people get home. So today I'm doing a patreon, you know, I'm doing my last beer on the balcony to just show everybody. This is what is going to be at least once a week today. I'm doing it with Monique from Radio Gunk and she has got a bombshell to drop about Alison Stern Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, I don't know if it's true. She alleges that it is but we were it's going to be great. I love to talk to Monica talked to her at length last night. So her and I are going to do the beer on the balcony today at 3. 3:30 I first got to go buy an oven because my freaking Oven broke down. So believe me your donations are going to help cuz I like to cook and tonight. It's nice to be beer can chicken on the barbie because my oven won't go over 1:10 or 2:10, depending on what day it is. Kate asked 90. Thanks for the five bucks. I'm going to answer this question. I'm going to bring it in Andrew Eaton be ever John don't take this the wrong way, but why not have some Republicans on if you truly are trying to convince people to vote Democrat. There may be some Republicans who come to watch. Okay Ethan, I've had Rick Wilson. I've had Mike Madrid. I've had Anthony scaramucci on the program all registered Republicans, but they all have changed their mind and you know what we have enough Rupert Murdoch's this is what I can't wait to talk to Andrew about bringing up these BS stories about Joe Biden and hunt the bite and just to try and swing an election but it ain't going to work this time. We're not that stupid. We understand the New York Post is the equivalent of the star The National Enquirer and US magazines. It's a freaking tabloid. And they trying to break a fake story given to them by vampiric on Rudy Giuliani. It ain't going to work and Rupert Murdoch is the same schmuck that's running Fox News. Okay, and you see the falsity that are said on Fox News and now without further Ado and reseed laffa and in a little while Chris. Craig Rosen Nick Rose Nikki Rosie Rosie Hector. All right, Andrew, how are you? Welcome to the program. How are you? I'm pissed off. I can see that it's hilarious but not because of my broken oven. It's because of like you see what Rupert Murdoch is trying to do with the New York Post. Yes. I mean what this story is Andrew you even understand what I'm trying to accuse him of now. Yeah, pretty, you know, undue influence essentially, you know by buying and you know on behalf of his son hunter in relation to a busy day. Ceiling in Ukraine and it's all complete BS. It's complete nonsense now granted, you know Hunter may have had some sort of business situation going on over there, but there was no he legality or birthing attributed to it whatsoever. So you got Rudy Giuliani, you know our our favorite fruit e g friend, you know, you know love it, you know hanging out with you know with Ukrainian, you know, who's really NASA to Russia, you know, supposedly, you know dotards own Treasury Department sanctions this guy, you know a few weeks back and he's scheming to kind of get whatever these emails are these crazy e-mails and and and texts and Communications to kind of show that you know, there was undue influence, you know, a hundred bombers up to no good with this person nonsense and you know, the only the only you know newspaper that or or new service that was willing to run with this ridiculous. Sniffs was the New York Post and there was absolutely zero, you know credibility to it whatsoever. I mean if you're going to produce evidence, you need to show how you got that evidence and you need to show like what's referred to as a chain of custody. All right, you gotta show that this came from a legitimate Source not from some, you know, Russian intelligence service sucks dude, whose Ukrainian somehow gets all this stuff. Then he gives it over to Rudy whose their you know, their representative here. One of the representatives here in the United States and then he knows shows it over to the New York Post. I mean, you literally see Rudy flop sweat come in, you know, Trail Rudy flop flop sweat from the Kremlin to the New York Post a dining room. So, I mean, I think it's just completely ridiculous. It's completely a nothingburger. This is there October surprise. It's more like an October, you know be em, you know what I'm saying, you know after after eating too much one night. I mean, it's ridiculous. What does that stand for bowel movement, you know what expect for I mean, it's complete garbage. It's utterly baseless backless and and and and just you know, it's a twisting of really anything that that really may have gone on with with Hunter over there. Yeah, and but by the way, what is Even if Hunter had anything to do with anything, what does it have to do with Joe Biden, you know, I mean, you're going to attack your son then we might as well get to Donnie dick head Junior Ivanka, you know who's profiting from China and you know with all these patents and and and and the three of them, you know, getting, you know disallowed from doing it to Charities if they stole from a kids cancer charity off like that's pretty you know, that's pretty crazy stuff. I mean Ivanka for one examine other examples, you gotta vodka with Trump Tower Baku that may have involved the Iranian, you know, Iranian, um, irgc revolutionary guard laundering potentially laundering money, you know in some respect, you know, not not her directly, but, you know just in some way involved in that potentially home and then you have you know, they rock with with Ivanka and and and Junior and Felix Sater, you know, you know was working for the Trump, you know organization. He's got some serious song. Connections seemingly to you know, Russian organized crime. So I mean you got a lot of Victor's here that these kids have been involved in, you know on the Trump side that really kind of ring about TGO true with tax evasion and money-laundering, you know, it seems like all these things are connected to them in some capacity and you're going to go after biting because he had some sort of you know, hunger buying it because he had some sort of business dealing and Ukraine and his father was not involved and his father is clean is clean as a whistle. What is this here? You know, I know well could be ever has a question. This thing in Hunter was getting paid for access to his father, you know, and like the thing is this is the funniest thing. I mean ninety dick a junior is the worst just as bad as each other when it comes to tweets because every tweet comes back to bite a mini ass you say. Oh, he's just so dumb. It really is so dumb. So today he writes. Hey Hunter, you know, yep. Using your dad's name to you know, get money and I go. Really? Do you realize that your name is Donald Donald Trump jr. You know are U this stupid U been using your dad's name ever since you were born. It's just it's just like when he tweeted out, you know after Hillary Clinton, you know, you know when she was trying to be president he tweets. Hey Clinton's, you know wash deplorable getting impeached. Yeah. So every time he tweets something once a day, I tried just to tweet him back his own freaking stupid words that bite him in the ass. I mean if it wasn't for for his dad, I mean you Junior would be wouldn't be qualified to shovel, you know, roadkill off the freaking highway. I mean, he's a freaking disaster this guy he just he's just so dumb painful. It's painful to like read these tweets and then respond to them and it's like, you know, what are you supposed to say to that it just it it like it kills itself before between eggs, you know, it's crazy. Yeah. Yep. And let me ask you Andrew. What is okay, Donald Trump is supposed to be hard at work fighting. And he would set up, you know, some sort of, you know, anti-hillary, you know truck T, you know nonsense and he was looking to do something along those lines, you know, and I'm sure Mark Burnett would have been happily involved with that and would have been a big freaking annoying, you know shitshow so to speak so I mean, it's just, you know, he doesn't want to be president. His kids are incapable of any true responsibility because they're just more bounce, you know fog is probably the smartest set of all of them, but she's just not really saying too much know, you know, I mean, it's just it's just a it's reality T and you know, essentially none of these people have a brain cell between the through. Yeah. No, I know and it really is that's all it is is we is reality t v speaking of which wage now just just drives me nuts. So ABC Joe Biden is going to be on ABC for a town-hall because Donald Trump Cowardly backed out of the debates. Yeah. So what is Mark Burnett channel, do they try and you know put Trump onto wage combat this protect their meal ticket, you know. Yeah, so what do you think about this? I mean, this is just ridiculous. I think it's it's just it's egregious. I think they should be a debate. I think you know, you need to be responsible here. Trump doesn't want to be responsible. Why because Thor Privado it's all you know, he's committed himself down this road of just denial, you know with regard to kovan though. He knows the true extent of how bad it was going to be back in treatment at the end of January, but you know, this is his this is the same as narrative. Now, this is his brand, you know, his brand is denial. His brand is you know, American Carnage death and sickness and he doesn't care about none of them care. It's about making money. It's about getting re-elected. It's about staying in power and and nothing else it really, you know, he doesn't care one iota about anyone but himself barely probably about his kids. I mean the way it weighs seems like he acts with them. Oh, I don't think he cares at all. I mean, he never even mentioned that Baron contracted covid-19 Jesus no way Jose. It's covid-19. You freaking out. I mean, you're like what do I got to do with this guy? You know, I mean what I gotta do with my my child, you know, I mean, it's just he's a he's a narcissist. He's a sociopath he doesn't care off that I know and and but it's just so bizarre. Like I have three children if if one of my kids God forbid contracted Colvin, I would be freaking I'd be freaking out, you know, I would normal loving that I'd be asking people for prayers for my children, you know, this guy nothing. Yes zero like you don't even hear about it until it's leaked. It's all about money. I mean, it's it's it's he's literally mentally ill it's all about him. It's all about, you know, his the way he's viewed coming across as a winner coming across. Is this something goes wrong? It's someone else's fault, you know, when he loses on November 3rd when he loses this election. It's not going to be his fault. He'll never acknowledged that he did anything wrong. He'll never take responsibility and then on them sooner everyone Hill Sue all shook our scales who owns former campaign managers and this is this is Mo. This is what if this is what he does, you know, he did this with contractors, you know after they do their work, you know, he doesn't pay, you know, then he then he then he sues everybody and you know tries to use his negotiating tool, you know, it's it's ridiculous. Yeah. No it is but I don't I don't think he has any money to sue anybody and he has a thing even if he tried but he he himself is going to get sued. Yeah, he's an Andrew legally. He's in deep shit. Isn't he? Oh, you know criminal he's off he's going to get destroyed. I mean, I honestly think that there was so much funny business going on with his the inauguration committee with the campaign, you know with the transition game. I mean, it just seems like there were so many different little things. They were trying to do to move money through whatever. I mean you see that to some degree, you know with their charitable, you know organizations here in New York state. So yes, I mean, I think he's he's going to get prosecuted he's going to get sued civilly and he's going to be you know, good luck with anyone contacted anything against them, you know, maybe he'll sell some of his suits or something or Spurs are he wears I had no idea, you know, I mean, he's going to need to raise money obviously. Oh, yeah, and and okay, there's so many questions I have for you, but first of all wage in New York, right? I am Manhattan, right? Okay. So tell me what's going on with the sdny and why and it's different than with inside Vance. And what's the latest news with Eric Trump? I saw that maybe they did subpoena him. Did he, you know, did he, you know do a deposition yet or no, right. He did to do deposition. That was from New York State AG. Okay, you have New York stay off. I is you know Federal, you know in Manhattan and advances Manhattan District Attorney's office. So what we had where we had Eric Trump just now in New York a jury's further investigation of money from Charities and you know, all the financial issues swirling around the Trump organization. Yes. Eric was deposed. I believe it was last week. So he was produced. I mean, you know, they're they're they're fighting these things and they know they're going to lose it's all about the delaying tactic. So that's what they were doing with our but should we worry that silence is going to do what he has done in the past and let a trump off. I think that side vents is trying to atone for his sins. It seems like you know in my opinion, I think that you know, they got the grand jury convened wage, you know, they they've got Craig jury subpoenas out there going to get these tax returns and I think he's going to go for the throat this time, you know, and and you know the page What makes you say that like what have you seen him doing that would imply that he is actually going to try and go after him now. Well one example, for example, you know, the when you refer to back is the alleged, you know donation that Trump, uh, and the kids did for his uh, you know election. Um, you know, I think the New York Manhattan District Attorney's Office in Iraq was in there was was investigating day Rock and it kind of financial dealings around that, you know, I think it was in SoHo, you know where they were building. You know, we're we're Trump trump organization was building, you know wage, you know working with a couple of developers and you know building all that out and there was some questions there was some Financial issues that Vance was investigating but I don't think they actually convened the grand jury on that. Here, we've got a grand jury convened. We've got grand jury subpoenas being you know issued we've got you know, both Trump's Trump's attorneys and Vance litigating this thing to the hilt off right now in terms of you know, trying to get Trump's tax returns over to the grand jury. So I think there's a lot more of determination to say the least here by Vance's office to you know, get this information and get us to the grand jury so they can choose whether or not they want to indict. Well, I mean in your estimation and and you're a smarter man than me. Do you think I don't know about that took charge. Thanks. Do you think any of the trumps are going to be behind bars at some point my gut feeling is yes, I think they're all going to go to jail. Whether it's Federal whether in a state, you know, New York or or another jurisdiction. I just think there's just too much there and I think people, you know, the public in general want a straight forward and honest investigation of these people. Of the troops and I think that there'll be a huge Groundswell to have you know, insist that these things go forward in terms of it being fair in terms of being, you know, honestly investigating the prosecution and I think you know, there's a lot of motivation on the part of prosecutors to you know, thoroughly invest, you know, their finances the background and there's so much there. There's just so much there, you know with taxes taxes with you know connections with organized crime and you know you literally I mean, you literally had Paul manafort, you know at the behest that I'm sure this is a true test of of trump meeting with you know, this is a federal, you know, lecturing, you know, you know election issues and and and crimes against United States meeting with with a member of group, you know, uh, Russian military intelligence to you know, to share, you know, Covenant GOP polling data. So the Russians knew where the target with their with their propaganda, then they're active measures then you have a job. Junior meeting with you know, the the Russian prosecutor at that meeting back in June of whatever it was 2016 at Trump Tower fell sky, I believe her name is or something along those lines, you know taught, you know talking about. Yes, we've got all this, you know, Hillary emails or we've got all this information, but let's intern talk about, you know, the magnitsky act and you know, what stations relief then you have Flynn, you know, Michael Flynn talking with kisilik, you know, the the former Ambassador and no he's not rushing into at all. You know, I'm not sure, you know talking about sanctions relief and and you know, the Russians helping the Trump organization. I mean Trump rather, you know with this election. So, you know, these awful things that are public, you know, you couple that with what's going on here in New York state what Vance is investigating? You know, there's there's taxes bank and financial issues that Vance's looking at I mean, they're going to get bombarded. It's going to be you know in January 21st, 2021. We'll we'll see how much down how big it's going to be maybe before that who knows if by the points. Well, you know Benny logo, thanks for the $2 says Lord, please please let there be prison time wage which I agree and then G Canada says not a chance of any of them going to jail Putin has something on everyone. I don't buy that, you know, no, I mean I you know Putin is not God Putin, you know is a corrupt someone Savvy somewhat Savvy, you know, Russian former Russian intelligence officer, but he's he's leader, you know stage says, you know as as president prime minister, you know for for president of Russia for that long, he's got he's got to be, you know, a pretty intelligent guy off. And and what not and you know Russia has a first class, you know intelligence apparatus, you know, that that didn't change once the Soviet Union fell it just you know, just basically they just basically changed names that that was it. So, you know, I I'm sure they have some stuff but there's anyone going to believe one thing that comes out of Russia after this. I mean look at how fake news and information and and and nonsense they've they've shoveled into our into our you know media into our social media into into our news and what's going to buy a damn thing these guys see any more, you know, and am now that I know I can imagine that no, I can't imagine an either and and and you know, I'm not even concerned about you know, Joe Biden or Chuck Harris or any of these because you know, they they are not corrupt. I mean Donald Trump and his crime family are the most corrupt wage. But I think this country has ever put in the highest office. Oh God. Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean, it's he's the most corrupt president that this country's ever seen. There's no question the whole family. It's criminal Enterprise. It's essentially a criminal Enterprise. They're all about making money. They're all they don't care about people. They don't care about our country. They care about enriching themselves and setting themselves up to live life, you know, nice sweet life after after this whole shindig or there is that to happen? Yeah, and how about like the abuse of the hatchback? I mean like I'm not saying like, why would you make these laws and then Donald Trump and his family break them, but we don't do anything about it like yeah. I mean, you know, come on am not Andrew. Yeah. I mean It's Tricky with the Hatch Act. I mean, there's some exceptions and things of that nature, you know, I agree. I mean they need to be prosecuted but you know doj is taking a stance right now that Bill bar, you know happy. As promulgated, you know, and it was it's based on a memo doj memo from the Nixon era that they will not prosecute, you know, the president's office for any crimes because they're they're saying that there's a temporary. I don't know field, you know magical field around him that prevents them from doing it, which I think is ridiculous. I just you know, how could you take a chance like that? If it's clear and you have you know evidence that you can put before a grand jury for indictment, then you can allow this person to continue acting in faith in such a high office. I mean, they they they go after congressmen and women and Senators, you know, they've done that in the past and and government officials that's never stopped them. So why is the president of special may I get that you want to avoid any kind of appearance? Like it's political you want to avoid it being mistaken for some sort of coup. But I mean, you know every other country club. They're virtually, you know a free country, you know, Western Democratic country, um will prosecute, you know their leaders if they're caught, you know, committing crime really look what they're doing with Netanyahu, even though those things are you know, it seems like it's dragging a little bit over there and Israel, but I mean, it's it's everywhere. No one is above the law and that instead is a basic precept in this country. And I think that we need to really reinforce that you know, after Trump is gone. We can't allow someone who is a arch criminal to continue in in such an important office which could lead to devastating consequences for the American people. I mean, there's so many things we need to change in fixing this country telling you you suck mean, it's crazy. The good thing is we have the structure. We have the framework to be able to do that to amend the Constitution to change laws to to, you know, remove politician job. And in federal actors that we or or any form any any branch that we find to be not living up to the their ethnic the ethical standards required to hold that office or committing crimes these things need to be done. Otherwise, there's no point, you know, we're no better, you know, if we let things degrade so far. We're no better than some of the countries we criticize. I'll tell you the one good thing. Donald Trump has done is Unified the Democratic party. I mean, I mean and unified I like to say most Americans because those that didn't come out for Hillary according to the early days are coming out now and they see what a disaster this is they don't yeah, but I'm biting is winning in Georgia. I mean, he's winning in North Carolina. That's great. And now it looks like I think he might have the edge in Texas which which is incredible. I mean look and I want to make this clear this isn't a Democratic or republican Republican thing if a Democrats committing Chrome, You know, we shouldn't look at them with Rose Colored Glasses just because we may agree with their policies or what they stand for. They need to go. They need to be prosecuted any answer for their crimes. Are there ethical violations off this is this is something that applies to everyone cuz if it doesn't apply to everyone applies to know one doesn't matter we can't make these things look like political retribution or pandering we have to make these things appear down not up here. We have to make these things about the rule of law and ethical standards. I mean, let me look at this way if Barack Obama had four hundred and eighty million dollars that came in from somewhere that nobody seems to know, you know, it was just it was just awful. It's for a little blocks of them four hundred million dollars. It's not a big deal. I mean, come on like how could anybody see this and not go? All right. Come on, this is this is freaking this is dead. Rough this crap. I mean come on, it's crazy. I mean whoever he owes that money to has him by the short hairs. I mean whether it be Russia, I'm sure it's a mixture of things Russia or you know, the Kremlin Tor Bap Middle Eastern kingdoms, you know, whether it's KSA you sort of rain or or or somebody come out was Egypt Egypt gave him the money gave him money. I mean who didn't give him money? I'm sure he just gave money Cambodia project money Nepal probably gave mine. Who knows? You know, I mean, we just don't know there's no there's no there's no sunlight here. We need to know I'm sure part of the reason why there's no sunlight here is because all of a sudden a estimated, you know, we we just don't know I mean Egypt is awfully be invested in and be prestigious about the pollen Cambodia, but you know, we don't know we don't know to what degree you know, what kind of criminal Investigations out Thursday or and right now it's frustrating sure but we need to not you know, that's a good thing because we don't want this stuff coming out so, you know things get tampered with we don't want any evidence, you know, we don't want any evidence, you know birth. Being your people decided they don't want to testify now because they're worried about you know, having issues, you know being threatened or or whatever else, you know, these things need to be kept private until such time. As you know, the District Attorney office is ready to unseal indictments or do whatever they need to do. Well, I gotta say Benny Loco. I'm a registered independent Robert Myers my good buddy. Me too. But I live in a red stage who was running I picked. Otherwise I left them blank on Republican was unopposed but this is what's happened. Independence are going towards Biden and we're seeing that more and more right, God. Thank God thank God they are I mean, you know, this country could not survive another four years of of this Menace this lunatic in the Oval Office. We just couldn't and but everyone kind of realizes that and thank God we're we're United and when when when America unites nothing could stop us. Yes and let me ask you something. Where the hell is Mike Pence? Who knows man you saying that ever since we believe he got covid-19 and heard a freaking Pete from now either. He's on a ventilator or Donald Trump said you suck too much exposure from your debate now just go away you seriously. I mean, it makes makes you wonder like they knew they were sick. What did they want to get Joe Biden sick. Did they want to get, let's act. You know, I mean, it's crazy. You know, I I mean that sounds outlandish but I mean, I wouldn't put it past these clowns, you know what I'm saying? You know, they they feel like, you know, there's. Or genetic examples of humanity, you know, took their arrogant enough to think yeah, you know, I can survive this code thing, you know, and even though I've got like 16,000 health problems. I mean, you know, you look at Trump. He's definitely got things going on there. I'm sure and you know with the kids get get, you know, they're they're they're you know opponents sick knows. I mean, they're crazy and they're desperate you could see all these crazy-ass tweets that Trump is thrown out there right now and his son and everyone else them. Rather than mine. So losing their minds I know and I mean it's like he's always been you know, his mind was always lost but now it's gone to a new new level. I mean, he's like extra extra crazy, you know, it's a gift see like stir crazy because I mean it's like it's unbelievable. Andrew this is what really bothers me and I'm happy to say that Virginia allowed the registration to go on extra days after the cable was cut off. Oh, yeah. Thank God. Yeah, but you know the cable was cut by a republican. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind. Well, it was cut by and let's just say this a nefarious actor or actress, you know, it was it was cut by someone and I'm glad the court did the right thing there, you know, and then that's one thing people are very critical the courts the courts have really come up strong all these election issues. You know, there's been a ton of litigation on that Mark. I believe Elias. He's in he's in the lectures attorney. He's he's been you know, the DNC he's been kicking ass. I mean, he's really done a great job, you know litigating cases, but ya know the cord to the right thing and most of these Trump judges, you know, everyone's like, oh he pointed all these crazy judges. Most of them are just our normal. You know conservative but normal judges and and they ruled against him innumerable times are you know, there's a few handful of them that really kind of our great, you know, that that aren't fruit off a sanctioned or approved so to speak but you know, most of them aren't that bad, you know, we'll see how scotus the scotus thing goes with Barak, but well that's an awful thing dude. I mean and it drives me nuts but us on that's just because of hypocrisy, you know, you're biting I mean zero-sum game that's what it is. Yeah Obama eight months out wage and they don't allow um and and see Grandma says, you know, you know keep the tape and mark my words and use the tape against me and then he's on edge. They headed the Judiciary Committee. That's that's putting her in you know in like like the Supreme Court it what a democracy. Yeah. Well, I mean one thing that the GOP a callback Get accomplished, even with all this other stuff is they destroy themselves? They have no credibility. No one's going to believe a word they 6 if it's the diehards and and and they're done Thursday. We can point to these you know this example right here we work with what you do with Amy, you know, you know Coney Barrett and and we don't believe a word to say, you know life and and and um, you know, they've done this a number of instances. They're putting this scotus judge, you know, getting are confirmed ahead of of a covid-19 package and you've got millions and millions of people that just fell below the poverty line. I was reading an article today is eight million more people now below the poverty line because of because of losing their jobs and their jobs that are just not going to come back people put food on the table and off. How do you How do you how do you not focus on that? Primarily? I mean the government is there to help us entire especially in times like this in times of need in times of narratives a National Emergency. You've got hundreds of thousands of dead Americans. You've got even more that have been sick. And and what has the GOP done what has Trump done zero zero to help these people. I know it's just so offensive aside from all the de stupid bigoted crap that comes out of Trumps mouth and ignorance stupidity. He's like Americans died. He let he's letting American troops in US troops died in Afghanistan without doing anything or granted some of that was going on during the Obama Administration, but he's patrols president. Now. You should have slammed that crap shut when he when he got word it, but no, I mean, you know, he, you know, these the Russians are paying bounties the Taliban these terrorists to kill our people off. The hell you know, what is this guy done for the American people in the four years that he's been president. They want than what does he does? I have no idea what what he didn't do take the freaking covid-19 the seriously yeah, you know, like, you know do the right thing with that and I'll tell you what Kushner did do hold back to p p e and everything else from the off the blue states that would get in covid-19. You know, I'm she's not my pic. I would not want her own skirts. I want someone in in in the you know in the mold of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I mean, you know, I'm a I'm a civil libertarian, but I'm also a limit just a liberal. You know, I mean, I'm a you know, I, you know, I believe very strongly in individual rights, but I'm also a realist, you know, but aside from all that. Yeah, I mean that's my feeling about that is they're never going to answer questions like that. They're never going to get case Pacific especially with issues that are before the court. Is she qualified from you know off as a jurist. You know, I think she is, you know, I don't want to just I'm not I'm trying not to be partisan. When I when I do these interviews. I just you know, I want to be honest. I mean do I want for us go to age but if she qualified, yes, she avoiding answering a lot of these questions like the climate change question and you know peaceful transfer of power. I mean, that's just going to piss me off by start talking about peaceful transfer of power off from you know, whatever but she's qualified it kind of set me back a little bit, you know with regard to a response on the First Amendment, you know, and some of the other constitutional issues that came up, you know that she should have addressed him when they brought up, you know, you know the police brutality in the in the murders that we've we've seen in, you know, I mean, you know people are asking a lot of concerns are asking well, why are they talking about George Points Berg, you know because it's a fourth fifth and Fourteenth Amendment issue, you know, you had a deprivation of of Life V in them in your fourth amendment is for you know, unreasonable seizure, you know birth. Force and in violation of do his due process why rights and you know inflicting death and it's Freedom. So I mean like these are why these things are brought up. So in my opinion, does she Dead Issue qualified? Yes issues someone we want on there. No, I don't want to run but there's not much we can really do unless something to like, you know, like isn't there a point where she said she couldn't name the five. You know, what was the price? Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, it's just I mean look, we all have our you know Muslims but I mean, you know, she should have, you know, if she brushed up on our convo a little bit there that the amendments are a number of importance they're all important. They're all equally meaningful and they're and they're all part of the Constitution and they should all be taken seriously and and you know, my problem is Andrew and and you know, and I'm a Catholic. Okay. Yep. I was raised Catholic. I went to catechism, you know, you know, I went to communion I went to confirmation. You know, like I I've I've been to church hundreds of times but I have to say someone that religious should not be on our Supreme Court. Why because they'll let even though they don't they might not even though they're doing this but they'll let their religious beliefs get in the way of the law and that's what scares me there's certainly a possibility. I mean, you know judges, you know, most part try to just stick the law but obviously their own personal feelings get involved, you know in their own personal beliefs will get involved in in you know, she doesn't she has some track record off on a tangential abortion shows reading some stuff about about some decisions. She ruled in favor of an abortion clinic, I believe it was in Colorado. Maybe it was dead. I don't remember when she was on the on the circuit there to Bar anti abortion rights Advocates from going into abortion clinics and trying to convince people while they're sitting in the waiting room reading the magazine to not go forward with it. So she she's got help you should have decision upholding, you know joining I should say with majority and upholding. That being an illegal practice by abortion by right-to-life have kids. So that's the one thing that I've seen that she's actually ruled on even tangentially involved with abortion. You just don't know you don't know how this is going to taste until you taste it, you know, so yeah sure. We you know, I mean, she's done a lot of public speaking about being anti-abortion. She's she's done a lot of different things in that regard so, you know, but at the end of the day, there's not much we can do, you know, I mean we have now in the Supreme Court, you know on you know on our side we close at Cagan Hagen. Yeah. What am I are? Yes, and who's the third one got what's his name Stevens? I believe in his what's his name? And we have we have Roberts whose chief justice who really is a swing of it now. Yeah. No, we have Clarence Thomas and I believe we have Justice is a prior prior. I don't know but Gore said seems that Gorsuch might be our friend in a way cuz it looks like he's been voting against like all of all of Trumps, you know BS its ears. Yeah, he has been and and even even Kavanaugh hasn't been that bad. Although I think with his financials man that that's the thing that I couldn't understand. Why why the Senate Dodge didn't really kind of delve into that. He had all this debt like six figure debt and it all disappeared, you know, who how you know on a salary of a phone charger salary? No way but aimed why is it not talking about this? Why are we investigating where the hell he got this money from see the thing is we don't it maybe being investigated. We just don't know nothing has been made public, you know, maybe that's part of the reason why he was dead. Ask questions about that because a certain immunity attaches, you know, when you get testimony before congress with regard to certain crimes you may have been involved in you didn't get you know a certain Community home. So it couldn't be that's why they didn't ask him about those things. You don't know. I mean, that's the whole thing. That's what sucks. You know, you just don't know, you know, whether or not these people investigated for various things. I mean, they could be investigations and they go nowhere or there's enough juice and they put it before grand jury, and it's grand jury most of the time and I sometimes they don't but most of the time they do. God won't I mean I hope I hope because I've had a few people on this program that have said that that Cavanaugh will be investigated for these funds that miraculously came into his account. I think there's issues there. I mean, he's the one guy I think it's got some issues, you know, you know, I was thinking in terms of some issues with him. But um Kavanaugh definitely has issues. Well, you know, like for me another big problem with Kavanaugh was a is temperament. He acted like a Cry-Baby a little child at those earrings. I mean, it was truly embarrassing. Yeah. I mean it was it was completely Unbecoming of yeah, you know being put on scores was discussing. Yeah, and then he lied and if you are if you know anything about the Urban Dictionary, okay, first of all boofing. Yep. Not farting that's a lie, and he knows it's a lot boofing is inserting alcohol or drugs up your butthole. I've never experienced that and I don't think I will but I you know, I won't either but I'm just saying that's what boofing is. Now. The other one was the other one. We were talking about boofing with a Superior Court Justice home business. I know but just have to say this then the other one was a pyramid now a pyramid if you look in the Urban Dictionary is when two guys have sex with one girl and they're the guys are not allowed to look each other in the eye. That's the game of a pyramid which would incriminate him when him and his buddies were trying to rape that girl. So, you know, so so that would have been an incriminating piece of information. So instead he lies and calls it a drinking game. So that's my problem with him. So even on those basic basic questions wage He managed to lie, and we're supposed to trust him about his finances. Yeah. No, I mean and and the finances are really the I wish you know, the these sexual assault wage would be taken more seriously by by law enforcement but it's very difficult as far you know away from when the actual events occurred to really kind of get an indictment on something like that and it's very often much he's said she's situation but the finance stuff I mean you've got that in black and white, you know, you'll have bank records you'll have you know, you know wire transfer you all have any number of different things with prosecutors can look at say Hey, you know, why is he being wired a quarter million dollars? What is this all about half mil, you know why you know and they can kind of do you know it's that from home. So we'll see what happens. I have to say, I don't know if you know Andrew on Tuesday. I had representative Carolyn Maloney on oh cool she's dead. She was great. I mean really really great and and and she's done a hell of a lot for New York. Yeah. Yeah, and her extension is is such a such an incredible story, you know to becoming a copy all those who go. Oh, yeah, I don't even I don't even know how it happened. I know I think and I could be confusing this but I believe her was her husband murdered on that train and that way I could pass on the airline's of Laura was walking down and just shooting people or something like that and then they tackle them or something like that our computer with someone else, but I'm pretty sure that's that was that's what happened with while I'm sure the people in my chats will know what within the next two minutes which is fine. Cuz sometimes I'm wrong, you know, Thursday we have we have a few more minutes and I have about five more minutes at most than let me I'll do five minutes with Andrew and I'll bring you in okay. Craig Okay, cool. So okay Trump is holding these freaking rallies and nobody's wearing masks. No, no one is motional distancing. Ron DeSantis comes out and he's saying, you know Screw the Democrats we're going to do what we want and everything else. Well the children that cookie I don't care off in a half hour. I mean what the hell is going on Angela? Like I mean how many times have dr. Fouch if to say this is do not do this. This is all about their brand. It's all Privado. It's all you know, just trying to be a tough guy and you know, we're strong is it's a little cold virus. What's the big deal? What's going to happen? You drink? Yes and chicken soup and some orange juice will be good. You know, it's not that it's not that all deadly virus, you know talk to some of the people that have lost, you know loved ones topic of people that are still suffering months after Contracting it residual wage. You know, they're just they're out of touch. They want to be this strong man tough guy type, you know appearance populace and really at the end of the day off it never works know. I mean the human beings, you know, and at the end of the day, you know, people more people start waking up, you know to some degree, you know, most people do some people are forever lost. They still recover say hey, look, I'm not any better than I was, you know, when this clown came into office and now I lost a family member cuz you know, he's not taking this virus. Seriously, you know, they say things like that are actually have to happen before people learn. I know but but it doesn't seem like they care. Some of them are being paid isn't it isn't going around that he's paying people to show up at these rallies know. Well, yeah, he certainly paying off come back. Okay. Now I just see that I was locking up. All right, you know, it's just I don't know. I mean I have to buy a new computer because you see how I might going in and out a bit Yeah Yeah. I have to let it just let me let it chill for a second. Hopefully hopefully it'll be okay. I think it's because people are dming me and they should not be doing that because this is what happens when you do that. It's screws. Its it screws me up. So so whoever's the enemy, you know, who you are don't you know, wait till after the show because you get a screw me up. You know it, you know I can't seem to get on here. Hold on just stupid thing. Hold on. I don't know what's going on my thing. Just just give me two seconds and you take your time. I've got like two minutes left and then I got to roll. All right, hold on. No problem. You know, this is what happens with this freaking computer and Andrew bless you was that I know that was a bottle of getting thrown into my garbage but you know in a nicely too. So that was the what was the water bottle getting thrown in my garbage. Oh, where are you right now in my office? Yeah, like you know what part off? I'm right? Not too far from New York Times building. I'm on the you know, West Side between seventh and eighth. All right, Midtown Hell's Kitchen. Okay. Well, I don't know what's taking this thing so long. But anyway, okay. See are you there God I'm here just thing is locking up. All right. Anyway, I'll let you go and you because you know, I guess you're having a I guess you have a meeting. Yeah, I gotta run to a meeting basically need. All right. So what are you saying? Is Biden going to win in a landslide? Yeah, I think so. He's got this in the bag. I'm not terribly, you know, you gotta we gotta fight to the end. You know, we gotta we gotta vote, you know, and it's never a short thing, you know, but you know, I think he's got this I'm pretty confident. Yeah. I am too. Well listen and you please come back and I also want to thank you for you know coming in. I you know, I know I DMD you yesterday. Yeah, and I was like praying that you could make it cuz I was like and I was at the pub. And I and then I got your answer and I'm like, yes, thank God cuz I was distressed and so and and the same with Craig was coming on next. So thank you so much. Thank you so much Andrew. Yeah, thanks for having me man. And I love coming on your show. All right, buddy. Talk to you soon, man. All right by and now before I bring in Craig, I just got it paid the bills if you will, so, let me just do that and then we will and then I will bring you up here and I have to just do one other thing. Hold on. I'm doing this all wrong. I will do it live. So hold on with me. Craig and then I'm just going to do this. I have I have Ian gurvitz an author of death to America How We the People screwed ourselves. I don't know what sorry to use on but I need to have them on today. So he'll join Craig and I and you know, so as as this show is going on. I'm just doing that because I forgot to invite him. So just give me two seconds that Craig and then let me talk about speed week, you know Craig I'm going to bring you in because you out of anybody looked like somebody that might smoke weed. So hold on. Let me just send this email out and and then we will get moving here. All right. sending sending message sent okay, we're back in business. All right, Craig. Here you go me bring you in here. Everybody craze Craig Rose The Rose Nikki closing is Nikki, you know, I know it's going to screw it up. Yeah, everybody does do you smoke we you know, we Craig you actually that last time I said, no. Well, I forgot to ask cuz I'm about to go into the speed we.com commercial. Let me just tell you I like to smoke weed, you know around 4 or 5:00 and then you know at night and you know, how long it, you know gets me all all hyped up. And you know, I'll write some jokes. I like the sativa. It's you know, it helps my creative mind. 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Actually, I think I saw Vines average poll numbers actually increased by about two points off of those proceedings. So that didn't work pretty much any dark. They throw the dart board has fallen flat like around and they're just rehashing the same arguments time and time again, like like with Hunter Biden for instance. It's I I think it's a sign of desperation and they don't know really what arguments you close with and I don't think it's going to work. No, I don't either especially when it's coming from the rag known as the New York Post. I mean, I mean everybody knows like, you know, they're the Fox News of tabloids. So why anybody would like believe that garbage and it's already been debunked but they'll still push it. You know, it doesn't matter any Trump's wide was twenty thousand plus times and yet he just keeps repeating those same lines over and over again, and he doesn't know how many times people debunk said lies his followers going to believe him know I know and he goes on these rallies and you know, and you know and does all these BS talking points that like, it's funny. I just saw an ad from I forget what which one there's so many great job, you know Democratic spots for ads. I think it was really American is that is that the place or or it was Midas Touch or it was the Lincoln project, but just hanging off. Like how everything Trump says that the Democrats are guilty of is what he's guilty of. I mean he projects non-stop. Oh, yeah, I've said that from pretty much getting I call him president projectionists because no matter what he accuses the other side of like a guilty of some kind of a crime or mishap. He himself is guilty of I can almost guarantee. It's about 97% of time. That's true. Yeah when he says Democrats are going to rig the election, you know, it's them. I mean look what we had here Craig in California the GOP here set up illegal drop-off boxes, and they finally the Secretary of State of California said, this is not legal. You must remove these now and they I think they got a cease-and-desist and they have to remove them now, but I mean and what length are they going and they cut the cable and in Virginia? In Florida on the last day of voter registration. I mean it's rampant and that's why I've been saying Craig and you know, James Carville was the first one to blow the you know, the whistle on this on my program just like we have to come out and droves. I mean this is like the biggest selection of our lifetime we have to vote so heavily that you know, they can suck at this time and what really pisses me off and then I'll let you speak kreggers, you know is that you see these people and a lot of people of color in lines for 10 to 11 hours just to cast their vote. Meanwhile in the white counties. They're in and out in ten minutes. How is this legal? Yeah, you told u p that and they'll say oh no, that's just a coincidence that there's really nothing to that. What a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, a follower mind. I saw him posted a couple of days ago. He said he stood in line like 4:00 in the morning. He was still there at 3 p.m. In line. That's just it's ridiculous and GOP harps on this notion that we're that. We're the freest country in the world and all that full patriot patriotic vs and off yet. They're trying to undermine democracy as they say that they're trying to suppress the votes and especially for people of color and students pretty much Democratic strong voting blocks. It just it really angers me. I don't get angered very easily, but it comes to the GOP and their voice press and tactics and trying to really gain mind our fundamental right to vote it. If floors mean I really hope like you said that we show up in droves to not only win the election but to make a point to win in a landslide take back the Senate retain control the house and when control the White House. Yeah, and I had to give a shout out to my daughter Lily because at her College well, hey, she's you know, she's an a student, you know, everything. I mean, she got a job at the college and she's now she got promoted. She's in charge of getting the vote out to all all students from campuses all across the country and you know off and making sure they have the proper information on how to vote and where to vote. You know, I mean, she's nineteen and she's already involved in doing stuff like this god-knows-how-long know how how far that she's going to go, you know, like in this world, but I I'm just so proud of her because that's what we need cuz we need our youth to get out and vote because they didn't 2016 khong. In the women didn't either and we need both of those groups desperately. One thing. I like what I'm saying from the polling numbers early voting numbers. Well first off early voting number that I think was last Friday. I saw that over five million people have already voted early this year and a 2016 that number at that point in time in 2016 four hundred thousand people voted early thousand people or people are showing up to vote which is a good sign in my opinion. And I also like saying the poll numbers when it comes to the 65-plus vote binds actually, he's cut into that later. I think I think Trump won by I want to say 22 points in 2016 monks that voting block and binds actually leading in some polls. So he's really cutting at least cutting big cut bit cutting big in that lead or took over control of of that voting Bloc by 125 points which could play big and States like, Florida and Arizona, especially. Yeah, and I like I was happy to see the polls wage. Today that bite is leavened leading in Georgia. He's leading in North Carolina. He's leading in Ohio and he's leading in Texas. Yeah, that's amazing and and Iowa a Quinnipiac poll last week that had him up by only had Trump up only one point in South Carolina. Yeah, and oh speaking of South Carolina Harrison is looking like he's going to kick Lindsey Graham's ass and that will be Justice that'll be the best Justice because that guy is a creepazoid off buying flip-flopper. Yeah, Trump trump has something on him. I mean he listened to grams rhetoric in the 2016 primaries before before they had nominated Donald Trump for the election. He called about a xenophobic bigots. I forget the exact language you use he called them a Coke. He called them unfit to be president among the Myriad of other things and now you listen. It's it's like the polar opposite the antithesis of what he was just four years ago. It's pretty incredible. I really hope that guy goes down. Well, yeah. Well, I think he's going to go. Now, here's the weird because I heard this was impossible but it's not looking so impossible anymore. Amy McGrath is starting to gain steam against Mitch Malone necklace. So so I mean, it looks like she might win. Could you imagine that we get rid of her rental and Graham and Trump in one freaking day? Oh my God, I'm trying to get rid of cruise to I know he's oh he is another piece of work. Isn't he? You know him in Rand Paul. I mean just another dog. I mean really despicable people is cruise up this year. I don't think so. No, I just saw speak at the hearing a couple of years ago. He brought up Charles Manson being alive and dead how Bernie Sanders wants them to vote from prison. I'm like, well first off the guy's dead, you know, and secondly it's kind of funny. They says that because you know, the GOP is kind of income like demands of family in a way. I mean Trump like Charles Manson actually kill anybody himself, but he brainwashed others to do the dirty work for him. Yeah. That's that's why the GOP right now, I could be Squeaky Fromme. Right? Right. Exactly and you know speaking of squeaky. She's like I quit tweeting everyday about some other beers. A talking point like it's so funny like cuz I go to the pub right and there's like a large constituency of a Republicans and the irony is one of the guys this guy name is Peter from England. He's on food stamps yet. He's he's like all in for Trump who will take away those like all those programs, but they but but they argue with me about the most ridiculous points, even when it comes to those California drop boxes, like know they were legal. I'm like, oh no. No they warrant. You have no idea. They're illegal. What is their mindset? I mean, they vote against their their own interests like you to say about the food stamps. You hear a lot of people like to keep the government away from my Medicare or Social Security near. I don't know if they just they've been brainwashed that point or their ignorance or what exactly but it drives me crazy how these people will say one thing. They'll vote one way but voting that way we'll actually heard them in their own families. Do they just not realize that or what? I don't know what this is what I think Craig I think like if you take like a Kayleigh mcenany who is a young woman who could have you know, who could have kids but could also have an unwanted pregnancy, but you know, they'll support Amy Coney Barrett who could very possibly overturn Roe v Wade, so I don't understand how young women Out there who you know who might have an unwanted pregnancy that they would support this. Can you explain this to me? I don't understand it. No, I I really don't know makes no sense to me know I know and yeah, the mind and it's just you know, I don't know what to expect with our next guest. So Craig, you know, I hope you're going to hang with me here. Sounds good. But he is an author. His name is Ian gurvitz and his I guess just his publicity firm reached out to say that all of this is our fault. It's it's the people's fault and that's what his books about. So I'm going to give him like 15 minutes in and then you know, I want you to plug your book, but but here we go. I'm taking a gamble here Craig. Gluck. How you doing? Good John. How you doing? Good. Well, first of all you can plug your book. The book is called death to America How We the People screwed ourselves. And you know, I came up with the title free. When we meet when you did wings, I was one of the producers on the show. Oh, that's right, and we went out for drinks afterwards, but it was a real funny episode. Yeah. I remember you just told me and and and and it was you who was the other producer there was Mark and Howard two other guys. Yeah, cuz remember you guys told me like that. I got the part because my position was the only one that made you guys laugh you did you made us laugh all week. It was it was great. I can still remember it. Yeah. I had the greatest time because Steven Weber. Yeah, you know told me like John why are you doing this? You know, this is what you should be doing. And you know, I always I've always wanted to be in a sitcom. So if you ever produce another one put me on happy to do it. All right, so it's so go ahead and tell everyone about you book. Like I said what I was watching, you know, if you look back at 2016 a lot of people focus on the fact that you know, he carved out somehow 78,000 votes in through the state's but that doesn't account for the fact that sixty-three million people voted for this guy know and she got 66 million votes in a sane intelligent Moss country. The score would have been 129 million to nothing, but he pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes either through hope or he made him feel empowered off and he's still been doing it and he's been getting away with everything and I don't care what the polls are right now Democrats better run like at ten points behind, you know, I don't want that look on my face page again in three more weeks. No, I don't either and and you know, and that's the problem. How is Ohio? You know, how's that looking for us Craig? It's hard to say, I mean I definitely would call a toss-up much more so than say like Arizona or North Carolina most appalled as I see here have buying up by about one or two points. I see that's probably about right. So yeah look and that I really hope people show up to vote in this day because if it's a low voter turnout here trouble probably when this date yeah, I mean supposedly turn out as higher voting is high but you know, that doesn't say who's doing it and we're you know, Ohio. I don't know if I were to Democrats I would be carpet bombing this out of Florida with ads constantly, you know, he's taken away your Social Security's going to take away your Medicare your old he doesn't care if you live or die. I mean just hardcore, you know, I saw episode you did with Rick Wilson the way the work they're doing is great over at the Lincoln project, you know real strong ads, but this I would just go down and dirty, you know, this is what this guy is done 215,000 dead. Going up to eight million cases and he says it's behind us. You know, I mean, I don't know what world we're living in right now. Yeah, and and here's the problem is like he really doesn't give a crap about the people that are you know, he absolutely doesn't and you know, this is the problem I find with Democrats cuz they tendency treat Republicans as if they're just bad Democrats and if you heard all the you know accusation age He's a hypocrite to us. That's like the end of the conversation the truth is he doesn't give a shit. It's just like McConnell and four years ago with Merrick Garland, you know, I'm not putting them up cuz it's an election year or next president has to decide this year with you know, the handmade. What's the name Coney Barrett? It's a yeah, Ami, kotha bolbo. Yes. Exactly. I'm surprised you didn't have the handmaiden when she was on the hearings, but you know new rules and if you've tried to say, yeah, but you said this then it's like I don't give a shitt. You know, it said, you know the worst thing you can call a Democrat is inconsistent in their position, you know or a hypocrite the worst thing you can call a republican. Is that a power and these people just they don't give a flying fuck what they do, you know, they're putting out phony about selection boxes in California that got people waiting 11 hours online and different states, you know in Georgia, you know, this is going to be just a hardcore fight to the Finish. So really I don't really care what the national polls say right now and I hope you get that that people cuz I did see some people tweeting. I'm waiting eleven hours. I don't care. I'm making my vote count and yeah, you know Craig are you seeing that other long lines. I haven't seen I already mailed in my absentee ballot and I checked the status. It's been received that's good. So I I really don't know. I've read some articles suggesting that there have been some decent lines but not as much as I have four states like Florida or Georgia. I did I did see in Florida last Friday and they could was wage at 56% of the early voters for registered Democrats and 28% were registered Republicans. So I like I like that number but like like you said we gotta show up in treat this whole like ten points down. Yeah. It's got to be there has to be so much voting that it's out of stealable range because they're pulling every single trick they can think of you know, Florida is going to be a nail-biter right and if they have results that night, you know, if he gets a chance he's going to declare Victory. Yep right away and then stop the counting. I mean this whole nonsense wage He's put out with the ballot. I haven't seen one report a question him. He goes on. Yeah. Yeah with everything that the ballots in this ending in two cats and dogs and and dead people and what's going on in there is a hoax and wage one reporter has stood up and said what the fuck are you talking about? I know what are you talking about? Based on what give me some evidence to prove that there is any kind of fraud going on, you know back in 2016 after he won and I'll put that quotes he set up this voter fraud commission with Mike Pence and the only fraud was the commission itself. They found something cuz there is nothing but there is a talking point to get it get out ahead of this, you know, you remember years ago. I'll I'll accept the results of the election if I win. You set in the same thing up again if I win, you know. They'll be that we went on on Election night. So we can't do that. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure this drags out the more troubling is going to be in my opinion. Yeah, I'm sure they've got plan a plan B if he takes Florida, you know, it's it's nail bite time because he's going to try to Surf that into I want know and then, Ohio, North Carolina, but once again, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, well, you know, well, we'll just to say to you guys this is what happened with g w and Gore I don't know if you bought if if you haven't I recommend this to everybody who listens and watches to the program and to the both of you. Have you ever seen the documentary outfoxed? Yep, long time ago? Okay, just to tell my audience here outfoxed what happened in Florida was a bush cousin that worked for Fox News announced on Fox that bush had one dead. Which made the other networks as stupid as they were to just follow that story cuz they didn't want to be like the last two to have that story. I see the same thing happening here and you know, which is what you're saying and is that you know trumps going to try and you know claim an early Victory before the votes are even counted. Yeah, stop the vote count. That's what happened in Florida and Gore decided to eventually concede. You know, what really happened who the hell knows. Well somebody does but he's looking at that as a paradigm. I can pull the popular vote by, you know, five million votes or more doesn't matter if I can sneak out an electoral college victory. He'll do it and I hope Democrats a smarter this time. I think they are but they need to be ready for anything and everything. You know, this guy. He doesn't paint his way out of a corner. He punched his way out. He will never quit. You know, it's crazy. Everybody thought he was done after Access, Hollywood. Well, he should have been done before that when he called John McCain because it basically yep cuz he was like people who weren't captured, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but now if you think of everything he's beaten up to now in all these years government shutdown tariffs pejman, the Mueller report. This guide does not quit now, he's out there flogging this stupid Hunter Biden thing cuz he's trying to create the little the magic the October surprise magic. He pulled off for years ago. So they'll just go anywhere right now and if they can just drag the votes away make by them look bad. Anyway, they can he just you know, I've always thought Trump is a guy. He's like a five year old who walks into a room and such scribbled on the walls with his own shit and then the media analyzes the paintings and I'm home. Read the same shit as going on he says it he says stuff they repeat it. They say is in this crazy, but they repeat it, you know and tonight who the hell knows what's going to happen a b c versus DC, you know my c t v thing I bet you trouble have higher ratings and also as a precursor to the election, but in actuality nationality is like watching a car accident. I mean that's that's why people tune into it, you know, whether you had the disease or not. He's out they're given these rallies and I'm watching this thing in Iowa the other night thousands of people nose-to-nose no masks, you know, and all I could think of how do they do education in Iowa? I mean do they send the cows to school and let the kids grades the fields? I mean what the fuck is going on yours? Yeah who the hell knows but these people it's like where's the deaf at? Let me get there, you know, let me get close to his breath. I don't understand this phone number. Is happening. I want to thank D be for the five bucks congrats on hitting eight thousand subscribers John. That's right guys Milestone. I just said eight thousand subscribers to the house to the Stuttering John channel. So that's pretty fast. I'm trying to build this thing. And you know, yeah. Yeah, did you know it was me that Frank the president two years ago. Yep. Did you know that Craig? I don't think so. No, it was all over the news. I went I made Global News even even in Japan. I I got Jared Kushner and Donald Trump to call me from Air Force One thinking I was thinking of acting and that would take I played a fake English assistant just to get them on the phone. It was hysterical. Yeah. It doesn't take much it does not a lot of brain cells flying around on Air Force One right now, but you know wage They're more this guy is a freaking Survivor, you know, he's dumb but he's not stupid and he's got the survival instincts of a sewer rat dragging a piece of pizza down, you know down the subway. I would not trust him. If I would Democrats I'd be running like I was ten points down scared shiftless and pump in every last dime they raised and it's supposedly a lot into ads all over the place and keep the candidates out. You know, I read this morning, Harris is isolating cuz some of the people in her Entourage tested positive, so it's like man, we're not done yet not done with surprises at all. But let me you know, I'm just reading the chats and then I'm you know, and and I had a question, but I just it just sucks evaded me. I'm sure it'll come back. I forget what it was. Give me a second and let him hug your book again and pulled it up. Let me see if I can find it. Give me a half the second. It's okay. Yeah, you know Craig we were talking about something and then I got distracted by the thought of things people are writing about the here we go. Here we go death to America how the people How We the People screwed ourselves by either get it centered. There it is. Okay as long stores now, it's an Amazon Kindle or paperback. All right and lovely little quote from Bill Maher on the bottom of it. So. Oh really? What is Bill Maher? Say what he said is loud Applause to Ian gurvitz for having the guts to say that it's not just Trump. He's a symptom created by We the People this is the most important message we can all here right now and it's delicious the most entertaining and compelling way. So it's very nice of him to do that. Oh good for you, you know, you know, that's I mean I would you know, you know Jay Leno was nice enough song. When a bunch of other celebs including Stephen Weber to do blurbs in my book. Yeah Stevens a good guy I run into him every now and then yeah, he is a great great great guy off. But anyway back to the yard, so yes, it's so yeah, I agree with you. I had James Carville on here and he said that we have to come out in droves and and and that's a good episode wage. Like, you know, if you want to watch cuz that made global news as well because I mean he said that Trump is going to get his fat ass beat in November, which I strongly believe he will I just off and you know, I'm terrified about all the voter suppression and you know, and I agree with you know, what all you guys are saying is that is that we gotta get out there and you know the kids and like like in the women I think people are fired up but you know, when I've talked to the one or two Trump supporters, I know they seem to say the name. He fired up to depends where they're living cuz honestly not much matters besides, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, you know, you can sprinkle in a Zona and Georgia as maybes Texas who the hell knows I would leave that on the back burner right now and if he loses Texas home if he loses. Yeah, but right now it's like make sure you've got what you've got before you start pipe dreaming because you know Beto almost knocked off Ted Cruz, but it's almost an eighth last I heard Ted Cruz is still in the Senate, you know and was participating on the Judiciary Committee in those hearings for Amy Coney Barrett, you know, which I the second he comes on the team. I can't look under it's like staring into solar eclipse, you know, I can't look directly at it. But you know, that whole thing was a freak it was a farce and it was a shadow play, you know, the Democrats wage. You know, I'll ask both the I'll let you know Craig you can answer and then already an answer but what do you think now look, you know Trump's son Barron contracted off of it. Yeah, and he doesn't even mention it. I mean what father would not even say, you know, you're saying your prayers out, you know for my son. I mean this guy is an animal now didn't mention his wife didn't mention his kid. I was just going to say that. Yep. Yeah, and we haven't even heard from his wife what's going on. Then she says, I don't know they put out some sort of statement that she's better off. The whole thing is just fishy is help. You know, I believe very little of what I hear coming out of that camp. You know, I'm not sure if I'm quite paranoid enough to think that he's faking it, but I would never put a pass. No you no sympathy Ploy plug is whatever stock he's got. You know for a miracle drug, he's running around pronouncing himself cured, you know, we selected Jesus Christ of covid-19. If I say it enough and I just keep repeating repeating repeating hugs hugs hoax I can put it into your head and I can make you think that but then let me ask you guys then. If Trump is awful announcing mail-in balloting then why does he appoint Louis to Joy to to like, you know, destroy all the Sorting machines over seven hundred of them and to you know, take out over time. He's obviously trying to suppress devote. So what so isn't that isn't isn't what Trump saying exactly what his guy is doing long. They they don't care. It's not just one of the other, you know, it's multi-faceted attack, you know watching mailbox is being cart away white car towed away watching those sorting machines being banged up for scrap, you know, he sent this guy in to torpedo the post office at the very time that they should be strengthening it. You know, so no matter what he said in any of his hearings. It was a freaking joke. It was obvious what was going on, you know, and this guy had a little poker tell which I thought was interesting when he was testifying before commission. Every time he answered a question. He did this look away to the side to me was a great poker tell this is I know I'm lying. I am lying my ass off but I can't look at your life. I do it so I'm going to look away cuz I can't catch your stare Oh I thought so as well and I also thought the guy is a glorified freaking mobster. I mean, he looks sounds like you know what I'm a stutterer and you know, he he makes us a stutter is look bad, you know what I mean? Because he's a lying stutterer. Yeah, but the thing is, you know, people have said, you know Trump is a president, but he's acting like a criminal. I don't think so. I think he's a criminal who's trying to act like a president who has been from the start. I mean I lived in New York in the eighties. I knew people who knew people Trump was a freaking joke always was just a self-promoting garish asshole, you know, but then, you know went broke in the casino business the one that business where people walk in and give you their money the one business where you've got math on your side he builds to casinos to compete against each other compete against himself. He's a he's not a big fan, but you know, thank you again NBC they built this guy. Well, they gave him credibility when he had done. And Craig, you know, I do want to get your you know thoughts too. But just since Ian just mentioned NBC now Wings was on NBC. You know, what do you think about the I mean, I mean, is this a Mark Burnett play? The hell knows who's behind it. I think they smell ratings. Why not? It'll be a big event and you know, they could make the case. Well Biden's on ABC's so why can't he be on m b c ROM? It's a tough one. But the whole point of Biden doing this was because cowardly Trump didn't want to debate him yet perfectly. Well, then I'm going to do this and then Thursday and then what happens and then he's going to go see and and I think that NBC is going to get bigger ratings not because that he's any better than Biden it's just because he is a shitshow and like I said and you know Embassy appropriately scheduled his town hall join the comedy hour because this guy is a clown. Yeah, but it's going to depend on whether whoever's hosting it will ask him follow-up questions on top of follow-up questions and pin him down if they hit him on mail-in balloting why where's your place? Don't let him get away with the first line of bullshit or the second line of bullshit the have to keep pressing, you know, even when the Press Corps every so often wonderful will stand up. You know, they even that guy S V. They stood up and said something about do you ever get tired of lying to the American people took a lot of balls to do that didn't stop um, you know, frankly. I wish they'd all get up and mass and just walk away, you know until you start telling the truth. We're not going to participate in this little charade and Craig. I I, you know, I've liked a lot of your tweets in the last couple of hours like tell me some of the things that you're you know, you know that's been on your mind. Well, excuse me. I I live tweeted the parts of the hearing for Amy Coney Barrett. Oh, that's right. That's right. No. No, I loved it. Cuz Ian Craig was saying they asked Amy. How's the weather and she said she couldn't say because Craig it was wage. I was just poking fun fact. She just she found any way possible to dance around and the answer excuse. Well, that's the usual, you know, anyone up for the Supreme Court than usual routine. I can't commit to a hypothetical I can't say how I would rule I have to wait for a case to come in front of me, but then when they asked her about climate change and she said she couldn't even render an opinion on that page as a highly contested issue know it's not not among intelligent people. Look out the fucken window. It is not contested. But look who she's performing for. You know, I thought you said climate change was bullshit and a Chinese hoax but here's my biggest problem with Amy Coney Barrett as well. I have to say that she's Uber religious which to me scares the crap out of me because anyone who's that, you know one way especially when it comes to the Catholic religion, and I'm you know, and I'm a Catholic. I know the crazy teachings dead. You know of Catholicism, so I mean that's one thing but the other thing that bothers me is she knows this is wrong. It's you know, literally they're going to have her birth vote on the 20 what V something like that coming up like literally a week away from the election shouldn't she as an honest person go, you know what song this is not right? Let's wait after the election and see what happens. That's not that's not her assignment. That's not why she's there that's not why they put her there and I don't think it's either wants to be there. She's there with an agenda and they couldn't coax it out of her, but if you read what she's written she's coming after the ACA. She's coming after Roe v Wade, I you know and who knows where she'll stop what she'll consider as settled law and what she thinks is up for grabs. You know, this is another conservative voice on the court. And you know people watch out. Yeah have to take the case coming up before the court on the 10th is has to do with throwing out the Affordable Care Act saying that because the individual mandate fell the whole thing is unconstitutional the upstairs limits and hopefully it was a weak case, but who knows? Yeah upload or nine said November 10th is the ACA wage, but I believe yeah, and that's I mean so there we go about you know, unchristian-like. So she wants to take Healthcare away from millions of Americans when Jesus was there to heal people. Yeah, they're not big on those contradictions. They just kind of move that away. Yeah amazingly they kind of treat Trump like Jesus yet. Like John you said earlier. He's he's the boss is a Jesus. He's the Antichrist is like they picture Jesus sporting an AK-47. Well punching homeless people. I never I never read I never read that Bible personally, but I'm curious to check it out. Yeah so much for blessed are the peacemakers and isn't she against same-sex marriage? And I think it's safe to say that she thinks that cake was wrongly decided. So yeah something else to watch out for it's just freaking scary man. I mean, this is the Federalist Society. They throw in these judges up one at a time. You know, I I still don't believe the reasons that would be retired. That was a shock to me, you know Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Yeah. She couldn't do push-ups forever. So, you know, I think I think Trump was behind with like like the angel of death. Just waiting cuz they pounced The second she was gone and there's no respect to the court. The court is a device for him. Maybe it's a sale Fail-Safe they'll do for him what they found it for for bush in two thousand. Yeah, and a Frank Geyer has a good point. I refuse to describe them as pro-lifers. They support a president whose incompetence has resulted in over two hundred and twenty thousand American lives. And you know, and that's true. How could you be pro-life if you support a president who's killed people by his negligence off, you know and by his worrying about the stock market know these people are pro embryo. Once you once you get out fuck you you're on your own. Yep in every way shape or form. So that's who they are. You know, this whole thing is about abortion and low corporate taxes feed the rich and fuck the poor and fuck the middle class. So that's that's what we're headed for and that's what's up for grabs in a few weeks. And and like I don't know if you saw this Craig and I was watching Mitch McConnell getting interviewed by Sean Hannity and Sean Hannity says to him, but why didn't Obama appoint all these judges and then Mitch McConnell goes that's because they've stopped at all like this evil Sinister laugh like somehow he did like that's his way of Justice by blocking everything that Obama was trying to do with see such a disgusting human being but you gotta ask yourself what the hell are people living in Kentucky thinking they look at this guy. He's been in office for so long. He's trying to cut their Healthcare. Yep. Got an opioid crisis. They're not taking Medicaid expansion. Why can't you make the case? I mean, I guess Amy McGrath is doing good, but I don't know if she's doing good enough. So what the hell is in the water and Kentucky, you know, they send him and Rand Paul. That's the best. You've got it working in your interests in what way know, they'll work it in their own fucking interest and they're working in a no draw about their wallets and you know and how much money they are making from all these freaking donations and corporations. They're the biggest. I mean, they're so corrupt and I find Mitch McConnell's so I'm like so egregious and so horrible of you think he he brags that he's the Grim Reaper because he doesn't because he kills every bill that comes on his life. I mean, what year how was he fighting for? Kentuckians? It's about power. It's about power and the money they get and the people they really represent not the people who Kentucky so I don't know they have elections. They keep electing this guy. He must be doing something for them. But I can't imagine what it is the same way. I can't imagine what Trump is doing for Red State America, why all those people in Iowa the other night crowd into this place known to nose in the middle of a pandemic, you know, they raced to the front of the line. It's like the running of the diabetics. You know, it's frightening but yet they do it. So this is you know, I've said these people are not political scientists that political scientologists and just giving them something that nobody else does and maybe it's eight years of you know years of Obama blowback. I don't know that just not going to show you that Donald Trump does not give a shit about anybody. He just knows he knows how to cope. Well actually gets diagnosed with covid-19 holds these rallies. No social death scene require required. He doesn't give a shit about any of his supporters and anybody but himself whereas Joe Biden will hold small Gatherings with social desert seeing Kamala Harris will cancel events because of staffer was diagnose the coven they actually care about other people's health and well-being and so they really does amaze me how drastically different the two parties are right now, especially the GOP wouldn't led by Trump and yet off most of his poor that they can't differentiate the two it's like it's like they live in opposite Ville where they see Trump and his tactics as Aligning with their health and well-being and and just the polar opposite with regard to bite in Harris and yet the actual reality is is the polar opposite of that. This is just about owning the libs, you know, they get a kick out of it when he does his routine at these rallies. That's all it's about and what it gives these people as a sense of power off. I think it's a power that they lost during all the Obama years. They just couldn't take it. Look what he came out within his first speech, you know, look what started him off before he he announced that birth or bullshit which by the way every Network interviewed him and cable. Gave him are time and ask them about it. It was obvious horseshit from the start but they gave him they sat down with him in interviews. And why do you think this and what proof do you have faith? They let him go. I've got people running all over Hawaii. I got people looking into it and what they're finding is incredible. It's unbelievable. Well almost Ten Years Later what they find dead. You know, but when it came it came time to walk away from it before the debate in 2016. You know, it's like tossing A Match Into A Car at the side of the road. He just blew it up and said okay your life. I was born in America by chance of it. But you know it was obviously a race a racist thing to do and the thing that I have the faith, you know the biggest problem with and I think you both would agree is that during the debate? He wouldn't denounce the proud voice know I mean and like I said, we have a president who wouldn't denounce David Duke who claimed he didn't know who the KKK was. I mean, how could anyone any person of color support this guy? I don't know that many are you know, he's always got that one guy behind him in a rally with a t-shirt, you know blacks for Trump, which I think you know, here's a hundred bucks a month just put on his tee shirt and wave a sign, you know, what was the biggest irony? And again, I don't know that irony is Big In This Crowd but the other night in Illinois, they're all behind him and they've gotten Maga masks song. And I'm looking at this picture going you all are wearing masks at a public gathering. Because you don't want to catch a dangerous disease that this guy let into the country and allow to spread and light his ass off. So why don't you look around and ask yourself a wife isn't looking to Maga at the moment. Yeah, I had one of thanks for the five bucks John. Can you ask Ian if he knows what Gregg Rolie are is working on indictments against cash or maybe getting him off scotus but you know not I'm not sure news to me. Yeah, I I hope yeah, I think I think Kavanaugh has got I mean, I went ahead and all that money from probably knows he was dirty as hell, you know, whether they can impeach him who the hell I mean you can but is it going to happen if Democrats would take power even if they get the Senate and the White House they're going to have a major shitshow on their hands the same way they did in 2009. This disease is still running rampant through the country. The economy is tanking people are stuck in their homes, you know, every time we try to open up There's another flare-up. This has to be dealt with from a scientific basis first before we can get it. You know, there's not going to be any socialist fantasy going on and there's not going to be time to get rid of Kavanaugh. Now what they do with the courts if they add members, you know, if I were him I wouldn't answer it either. You know, I would play a trump wait and see I'll leave you in suspense. Yeah, but you know, what did you think Craig and you know any and but what do you think about when Biden said I'm not a fan of expanding the courts now you think that was just I'm just saying he's not a fan doesn't mean he won't do it or was he saying he will definitely not do it. I don't think that he was pretty vague in my opinion and he just Kind of like we end just say just basically playing a trump card and saying well, we'll wait and see I think I think it's trying to find that perfect balancing act right now or if she doesn't fear certain vote potential voters, but he also doesn't anchor the far left either as I suppose, but I definitely don't think he's dead for certain say I'm not going to do this. Yeah. Don't show your hand at all. Let them let them sit and wonder because if he said yeah I'm going to do that. Well, you know to me the first rule in politics is you don't give me a bat to beat you with. So if he said yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Trump will be running around the country go and he's going to destabilize the court. They're going to fill it with, you know, Lefty judges and it'll give him another walking point. So I would give him nothing say yeah, you wonder what I'm going to do you think about it? Yeah, and what does you know was it ice tea or iced Cube who just came here? This Cube like Kanye and I assume now it's been well documented by Faith No Castle who work with Donald Trump on on a Celebrity Apprentice and a number of other people. Marry Trump. His sister. Donald has used the n-word off on on a on many occasions and you know and and even got in trouble for not allowing African Americans to be in his building. Yep, you know, so that's why would Ice Cube and Kanye back a known racist. From what I can tell, it's just fucking crazy. Yes just off-the-wall crazy. As far as Ice Cube. I've been reading a little bit about this but he had some sort of platform and couldn't get the attention the Democrats so just went over to the other side which to me did not look like a binary decision, you know, if his intentions are good. There's no mystery about which one of these two people is going to get you more of what you want right now or get you to listen about reparations or any other subject, you know, it's not going to be Trump, but he'll play you. He's happy to play anybody if it gets him back in the white house cuz all this guy wants to do he knows what's waiting for him on the other side of a loss. You know New York State Attorney General who knows what other cases he understands what he could be facing, you know, if he ends up losing and gives, you know, admit sick or it's so obvious that it's out of steel range the Trump Jets going to be gassed up at JFK or outside of Miami and they're going to be in a midnight flight to Moscow, which is just the core group. Yep, you know the rest of them dancing in the wind Donald dick head Junior Ivanka, you know wage, you know what I think Fredo I think Eric Eric Trump is going to he won't be able to find the email, you know, wait. What airport what time where's the plane? I don't leave me, you know, Ivanka Jared Don Jr. Maybe the other one my eyes that he just forgets. He's got another kid song. Eric now Barren Barren too young so you know, he's I feel I feel bad for him to poor kid. Doesn't you know, he didn't ask for this know he did. He not only didn't he asked for it but like Faith, you know, he gets no love from his father. I mean, there's just no love there. But neither did any of the kids except for Ivanka. Yeah, and I don't know I don't want to I don't want to get into what what kind of love that was. That's what I love. That was lust yeah, you know, all I can think of is I'm guessing that she slept with one eye open. But then again then again, maybe she didn't Road Rash just said Don Juniors a record just came out has he been arrested not that I've heard. Well, I like to see what that I like to see what that story. Oh, yeah. Donald Trump does not know who Tiffany is either. Oh, that's right. He's got another one. That's true. She spoke of the Ark she spoke at the RNC. I see down that stage like this. You know this kid. Yeah, that's no more alarm off. Oh, that's marvelous kid. That's yeah, so I think that's you know, you want the checks to keep coming show up and and speak for me. Yeah, you know and it's other kid is Baron which ironically get a used to use the name John Barren when he called in to like page six at the post. Yep. That's true or talking about himself. I'm I'm Donald Trump's publicist John Barren talking about what a Hotshot he is. So yeah, I mean like you said this guy's got like three names in his head the 200 word vocabulary. So like I see that you have those cars behind you what kind of those that one's like. It's called the war. It's it's a fender like a archtop like an old blues-guitar. All right, and the other one is like a 339 Epiphone like a shrunken down BB King. Okay. I just when I kept when I need a break to stop just to get my head somewhere else. I take them down off the wall. Yeah. No, I have a dog. You know, I have a bunch too. And I I must say that I was truly saddened by the death of my guitar Idol Eddie Van Halen. Yeah, that was you know, I sort of knew it was coming because he was really sick and when they start going to Germany for a special treatments, it's like, oh I didn't know that see I was taken completely by surprise thought I'd rather few things. But I remember way back when it was Farrah Fawcett and when they start going to Germany for, you know some a typical doctor for a typical trade-ins, that's cuz things are desperate. So yeah that that one hurt. Yeah it did. Well. Listen, I'm going to let you guys go Craig. Do you have anything that you want to plug? My podcast I feel City or at least three new episodes last week and and you you can find that on podbean iTunes wherever and also any of my books including trumplandia and the Art of the Steal can be found on Amazon and paperback or Kendall Great and Jian Kang buk. I just wrote called death to America. It's on Amazon. It's actually the third in a series first one was called Welcome a dumb Pakistan and the second one was awful. I wrote right after the election to describe. My mood was called freakout States move. What the hell just happened. And what what is where we headed? Well, listen guys, please come back. I'd like to have you both back up before the election and that's so funny that that you were one of the producers on wings. I wish you publicists, you know, you know who wish they would have said. Oh John and you know, you met him he was like wage. Because cuz I had that was that was like a great week for me to you know to be able to guest star in such a great show. 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Living Out Your Faith in Today's Culture

Focus On the Family Daily Broadcast

28:20 min | 4 months ago

Living Out Your Faith in Today's Culture

"Before we would shoot that Seeing gem we would we would join hands on. We would pray that You know that the holy spirit would move through. Some would go out from us is through the camera and touched people's lives and i just feel so privileged that i have been used in that way. Let's roma downey she's an award-winning actress. And producer an she's describing. How her faith in god has been an integral part of everything she does and how she lives today on focus on the family roma downey and her husband. Mark burnett are with us They're going to encourage you to live out your faith in the same kind of way with courage and authenticity. Thanks for joining us today. Four focus on the family. I'm john fuller and your host is focused president and author. Jim daly john. We're one week away. From easter the most significant day of the year commemorating when jesus christ rose from the dead and literally transformed the world as christians. I don't think we can understate the importance of The resurrection because it fulfils all the promises of god that he loves us and cares for us that he to wash away our sins. I mean these are wonderful truths that jesus fulfilled and of course the best truth of all that we get to spend eternity with them. I get excited about that. It is not just the good news. It's great news for humanity and it's easy for that message sometimes to get lost in this popular culture and all the materialism that we have etc. We tend not to think about things of faith. Well we're going to concentrate on that today. And that's why we have mark and roma with us They have a release of new movie called resurrection which comes out on discovery. Plus this weekend and it really is inspiring. it is and i'm looking forward to talking with them about it. Mark and roma welcome back. Great to see you guys. We michigan honestly seeing screen. I just wish you walking in the front door today. We really machine that is so sweet and we appreciate it and man tell us. Just give us a quick overview of resurrection. Then i'm gonna ask you some questions about the culture and then we'll get back to this release of the greatest truth ever told but what inspired you to do resurrection. Listen we're all just coming to one of the worst years that we've ever experienced with the covert pandemic and mark in conversation with each other so that wouldn't it be great if we were able to release a film that told the story of hope and shirley there's no greater hope story in the world and the story of the resurrection so we rushed with our editors to put this beautiful phone together. We thought around christmas time that perhaps we would still have the opportunity to get it into theaters but it became clear that that wasn't going to happen because pandemic and so we're delighted to be able to partner discovery plus which is a brand new platform very family. Friendly platform will start on the twenty seventh of march. Will we are so glad for that opportunity for our listeners. To be able to see that. And i should mention mark. Burnett is Didn't give your bio. I'm so sorry for that. We got rolling. Here's mark burnett is chairman of the mgm worldwide television group of producer of a number of mate. Your tv shows. You know them survivor. Shark tank the voice. He's produced more than thirty two hundred hours of television programming which regularly airs in more than seventy countries worldwide. Roma downey is a producer. As i mentioned earlier. She's an actress author and is the president of light workers media which is the faith and family division of mgm studios and probably best known still for her role in touched by an angel and together. They've done so many different faith based programming Ventures including the bible miniseries The son of god and the miniseries ad the bible continues which we've talked about before. Jim yeah so let's go to this question. What the two of you to do this. I mean i know you have a strong faith but you're working in hollywood. You probably think. And i got to keep our my head low but you don't you say okay we're going to use the best resources the best actors and we're gonna do this well and we're so proud of you for what you've done there and you do it in such gracious ways. It's not a finger wagging way in any sort of way. What motivates you to speak about your faith the way that you do poverty. Is we get to work together on. These projects showed shelter side by side. And it really gives us a good feeling. It feels good. We have fun doing it. And it's important and we believe someone's jim said to us once two things. I don't do it together. As merry couple your marriage survive the rigors of a foreign production that was wrong because not only do we survive. We thrive and there was a set. Your career is very good in hollywood. You'd be a very successful making bible by stuff would diminish your careers. In fact the opposite happened we thrive guidance literally giving themselves to this as improved at marriage. A family at lives and careers and so then supernatural element to that. We know that we don't always understand. We don't need to completely understand how these things happen but we know that by giving us to this this happens you know mark and roma. What's so great about that. That applies to anybody doing anything right. If you have that faith in christ go for it. Don't hold back and trust him to give you that piece in that comfort but be out there for him right. Yeah absolutely and we do. We are there for him. You know i mean. I think i learned back in my years. Jim working on touched by an angel And that little clip that you played at the beginning reminding me that della della delleri and myself we would always pray before we would do the central scene. Which was we called it. The angel revelation scene and It was the moment that we would let the person know. We weren't undercover nurses or teachers. Whatever we'd been pretending to be we were in fact angels we've been sent by the almighty and we had a message on the message was always the same that there is a god that he loves you and that he wants to be part of your life and over twenty five million people tune in every week for that message. An our prayer was less of me. More of you less of me. More and some larkin. I have taken that prayer also into the work we created under light workers that there would be less of us and more of god and that same message that there is a god that he loves us that he wants to be part of our lives is embedded into all of these projects. And so you'll feel the energy of that coming under the movie resurrection because of ever. We were reminded that there is a god. Lows us is seeing the story of jesus lay out on the screen to see him crucified. Which is the start of our movie. But more importantly to see him rice and show that he was who he said he was. Yeah that's what we celebrate. That's what is so amazing about easter. Mark let me ask you. You're kinda known as a risk taker. Obviously there was a quote. I came across that i think is so you you said not making a significant contribution or not stepping up when given the chance is the thing you fear the most so many of us need to hear that you know not to shrink back in the moment that god gives us again. Whatever the platform might be and i i just want to hear directly from you that idea that you sometimes feel that if you've ended up on that you're disappointing. Perhaps the lord what do you say about it and very briefly it's role driven by two things. Either you're running to pleasure or running away from pain and you decide. What is your motivated. If different was different and mine was running away from pain. But what was that. Pain is a great pain to me to fail and looks cheap. It or greater pain to me to look back thirty years later in full regret. I wasn't bright enough. And i decided i was willing to fail continually and look stupid. That was the case far better than to get into my old age and look back a new done that i should have done. That is driven may completely amid loss shows have been highly successful and other ones that haven't worked on the line for the bible this movie resurrection. You really putting yourself out that some people throw stones at you. You really are. But that's okay. We'll deal with that. We're dealing with that fall better though we can look back in all day just like you know we went for it. Yeah it such refreshing kind courage and roman. Maybe i can direct this to you when you're working in hollywood a lot of christians. You know those conviction christians. You know we're getting the feeling that were being beat up and people don't appreciate what we stand for. But i can't think of a couple that does this better than the two of you and i mean that sincerely your graciousness the fruit of the spirit. That comes out of you. love joy. peace goodness mercy. It's kinda sad that we as christians don't use the tools of the lord more often. And i think the question i have for you really is just. How do you go about doing that on a daily basis in an environment like hollywood. That doesn't really express appreciation for what you believe. How do you generate that kindness that generosity toward people. That don't agree with you. Well gosh i do like my own daily practice gym elected start my day and prayer you know and and really i love nature a love like being able to see the sky or the ocean or you know some greenery and so i do my best printing outside if the weather permits and i really just try to her myself in that in any given day you know one of my favorite parables is the good samaritan. It's funny you should mention you know what's How do we how do we move through the world so it always inspires me that you know that the guy that was helped with sort of the enemy guy you know not of the same tribe and that extension of kindness was christ like you know and so we don't always sometimes fall short on that but we do our best to try to be those people and that they would know us by our love. Not that they're gonna know us by finger-pointing. We're not creatures. I'm not my job to tell somebody all four to judge somebody. It's just our joke to love and to try to be gracious into. Tried to be kind. And and i have found really in hollywood. The people are more accepting than you might think you know. I think that kindness can really disarm somebody you know more so than anything else more so than a tackle you know. Somebody says something a new meet it with kindness. You just see you know. People started back down if if they were going to come at you in the cancel culture that exists. There's a little bit of a safety because people are very unlikely to publicly criticize you being christian right now because that would be just as bad as criticizing song being gay for being of rice from a different Political party people the culture right now to be more careful. So i'm really feeding people less likely to boldly go there and say anything negative about christianity or christians and so that's a byproduct of time gone by and we love doing what we do and i told you before they're easy supernatural elements in. This is ice to try. And figure out. What i i really found the lord and i've learned it all supposed to figure out it just is that's what i really realized that and just go along with it and know that. How do people find out movies. What does it bring people to louis. It just does one thing. We have done the jim we you know movies about. Jesus ole real characters so in resurrection. This movie you can feel the thea and the tara of the disciples. They didn't really think jesus killed and crucified and he was pete up. The reddaway denied in three times. Only john was even there with. Jesus mother mary matalin across and so that shame. That feeling could all feel that. We've all made mistakes. Were always as brave as we should be. And that's what you re seeing this movie. These real people. And i think people have never been to church or never really read the bible. A watching resurrection could see themselves. These a real characters it net and that's an outstanding part of it and actually mark. That was my next question to you. Because you're a former military guy special forces i mean. That's a man's job a man's man's job. I'm thinking of peter in the garden and you both do such a beautiful job. Portraying the disciples in human ways. And there's been some criticism about that. But i think you've captured beautifully. Those normal human shortcomings which in the garden with peter you know he straps on to go up against those coming against the son of god and you know. I don't think he was going for the man's ear by the way what guy. I mean i'll ask you as a special forces guy. Do you think. Peter was really going for his ear. But you can really feel what they're feeling in that moment and you've done a brilliant job with that we'll it says in new testament the if you wrote down everything jesus said it would fill the books in all the world and we have retreated script and we add feelings as she said for example that time in the upper room in this movie when they will get together and had terrified that y'all and really what they want they believe i mean summons in the movie says let's go to tailoring get out of dodge. Get juiston they killed him. They kill us when next the looking forward this go and luckily they stayed three days and of course as we know he resurrects tension in that on the other side. You got pilots and kheifets the high priest. They don't believe is resurrected. The was of stolen the buddy and there's a great scene covers though isn't sure and so he decides to give money to the temple god's to lie to say but besides was stolen buddy of christ and it wasn't really resurrected. Which is you know. He's enjoying this. Moment is tension. what's going on. It's the craziest time ever in jerusalem that killed jesus. They think is going to solve the problem but he comes back and then it's game on. Have everything changes in this movie. We cover pentecost not many times. You see pentecost in these movies and the moment when they pray in the holy spirit comes the flames. Come and speak in. Tongues is absolutely amazing. Fabulous jim because with the special effects you know i mean this is what we can do in full technicolor with a great special effects department and that circles of flames around their heads and suddenly their speaking languages. They didn't even know they knew and they tumbled into the street another ready to do what he asked them to do. Which is to tell everyone you know. Spread gospel everywhere. Spread the good news is you said. Spread the great news and you know in our own way. I mean we're just we're filmmakers. You know but we're trying to do what he asked us to do. Three film which is to spread the gospel and another way you know some people learn better things anchor more on their souls when they see it. I myself a visual learner. And when i take the images and the characters from the movies that we've made and i go back into scripture. I find some ways that it has brought it to life in a new way to pay attention to different things that i hadn't even realized when i first read it so that's been very exciting. Yeah you know one of the things is you do a brilliant job of people feeling that we can see our own humanity in your storytelling. And that's what hooks people yeah. There's an accessibility to the work. That mark burnett and roma downey do their our guest today on focus on the family. We're talking about faith in the culture and we're talking about their new film resurrection which is available this weekend on discovery plus and we've got some details for you at our websites and some resources as well as we turned the corner and enter this final week of the easter season. Roma let me come back to you. There's something that you and i both share. And that was the death of our mothers at a very young age. And i. I love that scripture. That says god is close to the broken hearted and saves those crushed in spirit. And i think one of the things that is so refreshing about you as a high-powered couple is your humility about this. The way you're expressing god's given us a platform we're gonna use it for him and it's so I think refreshing. Just to see people achieve a high level. But give it right back to god. And i think if i can be so bold to say. I think that's because of your broken this. You didn't go for mountaintop to mountaintop and speak to that really of humanity that this life is full of suffering. Yes it is indeed me when my mother died jim. I was only ten years of age. And she was in her forties and she hadn't even been sick or anything she just dropped dead of a heart attack and so it was just the utter shock of not know it was like the lights were turned out in the music stopped. And if it hadn't been for my faith. I don't know how i would have endured honestly. I really don't know so the promise that the resurrection offers us is the hope that i've held onto my whole life that you and i and everybody else will get to be reunited once again with our loved ones and what a day that will be and i decided back. Bama's little girl that i wanted to live my best life to honor my mom. You know my dad died. When i was in college and So you know. Death visited our home too early unto often. But i think you're right. I think it's the very thing that has hurt you. The woman that you have that you capacity for compassion grows. I think maybe your compassion for empathy of others may not often thought in all my years on touched by an angel that those were the very gifts that the angel i play needed. And you know you can't help but think of some god amazing you know like of all the roles and all the world that i would have ended up with that role where i was actually able to use the hurts. That had visited me to minister to other people. Yes it's beautiful. And i think that's so hard now with i. Guess the selfishness that we have in the culture that when we experience that kind of suffering we don't see how god might use it for his good and you know it makes romans very difficult to understand when it says. He uses all things for his good. I mean that's hard for us to believe that. Look at your own life. And it's proven so true. Let's turn to resurrection specifically when you look at the casting. The shooting of it all of that. You've done as john alluded to eighty the bible story etc speak to the resurrection and the production quality of it. What you're trying to hit. Well we own you know. We've often said that. Just because a film has a faith content and it just because the film is well intentioned the film also has to be excellent quality and i think in the past perhaps in our christian community. We've had movies. Come out and weeping approach. Can you support this film. And we see the film. We know that it was well intended. But the quality of the film just doesn't isn't up to snuff. You know we just don't think that's acceptable anymore. This this movie. Resurrection coming out of hollywood has to be as good as any marvel movie. Or lord of the rena. We just wanted that. We brought a marvelous team together. Jim you know takes a village to do anything and we have a wonderful cast wonderful crude a wonderful set decorations and costume designs. And and all enhanced. By the hans zimmer lorne bell score in the collective experiences just a gritty movie a out like a thriller it's filled with drama and tension and ultimately it's your heart source it's completely inspirational and a desire. Hope that families. Maybe we'll start a new tradition for easter from the comfort and safety of your own home to gather together to watch this beautiful easter offering to maybe talk with your family afterwards over meal and it's a great entry point for kids you know and which just hoping maybe it's the beginning of an annual tradition to which resurrection for easter and again what a great reminder to let the culture. No the jesus is the greatest story ever told in. His resurrection is the greatest gift that we could imagine from. God was right at the end here. I think the two of your your attributes mark. I think of you that bold person. that's out there and roma. don't forget mark. Let's love everybody. And i love that. You both do that so well. And it's such a wonderful combo that you both as a couple. Bring to the story your boldness and roma that loving kindness that you have it when you look at the outcome on the other side of easter. What would you hope for that. People will walk away with after watching resurrection. Well i think you know we come through this terrible year end if you imagine for a minute that when we were locked in our homes it was kind of tomb like and we're all hoping for that resurrection. You know like what will that feel like when we finally are able to get back. Who would we be when we finally are able to get back. You know because we have to start unpacking that. I think we're all going to be very different I think it's given us time to reflect and to really prioritize. What's important in our lives. We're hoping that when people see this foam you know. There's a lovely ending to the film. Not a spoiler alert. I'm sure your listeners. All know the story alpha remind the audience at the end of the phone that what began with just twelve people are a handful of followers really has now grown to over two and a half billion believers today and there's something i think so extraordinary to be reminded that we're part of such a huge lot. You know big big big family and to remember that we belong to each other and You know there's just something so uplifting and comforting in that to me well mark and roma you guys again. I just so love and appreciate you. I wish i was walking through the front door so we could spend a little time together. And i just i feel such a kindred spirit with what you're doing and how you it the way you love people It's an inspiration. And i'm telling you Each and every listener. I mean this is living out your faith. Right in the boldest way possible with the most love that you can express people. It is the message of the gospel. What mark and roma do each. And every day right there in hollywood rather than cast aspersions for that group that community. Why don't we pray for them. Pray for the effectiveness that mark aroma could have in that community as influencers for and most of all. Let's watch the movie. I mean go to discovery plus and We'll post a link there that our website where people can connect so mark aroma. Thank you so much again for being with us For your bright smiles and for what you do every day in the name of the lord thank you. Thank you jim really when you check. Please come and visit as a game. We love having you in a home. Your great guests in the west from to jim become all right. God bless you guys remember he is. He is risen right. Thank you bye-bye. And jim said we're gonna link over to some details about that discovery plus release of the movie resurrection by mark and roma. And you can also call us if you'd like our number's eight hundred. The letter a. In the word family or stop by the episode notes to learn more john. Let me also mention that. We have a free Booklet downloaded as well called coming home. It really explains what it means to become. A christian in here at easter is the greatest Meaning of the whole moment and we would love for you to consider if you don't have a relationship with jesus christ start the discovery process. Find out why ask questions. what is this about. What were the claims of christ and this booklet will help. Answer some of those questions and get you started in that relationship fraternity with jesus tens of thousands of people have gotten this book or read it on line and again at our website will have all the details and the link is in the episode notes. Yuppie have a great weekend with your family and your church family to join us again on monday for practical tips about making your marriage. More joyful you think about it Friendship as the foundation of a really good marriage. 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Avenatti by Nature with Michael Avenatti

Dumb, Gay Politics

1:22:41 hr | 1 year ago

Avenatti by Nature with Michael Avenatti

"Look let's go ahead and when people say that God is back God bread it is back. We're taking questions about my upcoming album. I'm a musician now. Please subscribe to call Chelsea Peretti. The podcast you can call and now I've got to get back to playing piano it's all shit. It's all just. I'm gay politics America's kind but we're not going to let it go down like that because because we've got a dumb game podcast dumb gay political podcast. We probably don't have all the facts but we got opinions. And we'll probably backtrack that's too dumb podcast. A dumb get political podcast. It's ocean socialized. I mean I don't know I I am uh of this shit. This shit is trump T- argue. MP Hello everybody welcome to dumb gay politics. I'm Julie and I'm brandy and this is the podcast where we talk about the week in politics like we're talking about the week in reality TV and Politics Mamiya has literally been twenty four seven reality show this week right. Oh my God I mean. I've been riveted. Well I haven't because the it's the impeachment inquiry hearings Zimmer. Anyone out there who's lucky enough to not know and let me tell you watching it is like watching fucking paint dry. Okay you're riveted because we don't watch Bravo anymore so now we will grasp on we will watch to grasshoppers fighting grasshoppers would be so exciting This is kind of like watching to grasshoppers fighting. It's like you know you wait for the moments where the Republican Schill tool pandering cut twats soon get on and prehensile and say their speeches that were written for them by Stephen Miller and writing paid off and you can tell and I was I've just been enjoying You know the Devon Nunez of it all. Yeah I mean you always enjoyed politics even before we started this podcast so I understand for me. It's it's not checking the boxes. Maybe because it's the house and not the Senate I need Kamala Harris. I need the glamour. Glamour there's no glamour and you know I need even Dianne Feinstein. 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Not for nothing. We don't give a fuck if the pastas no organic. That doesn't matter all we really care about is basically because the the recipe calls for Campbell's because Campbell's make spaghetti so they called for Campbell's creamy tomato soup so now we're back to the same. I miss you. which is nitrate central right? So that's all we really care about is getting organic creamy tomato which we will do probably traitors. Joe Possibly be imagined civic nick the two brands and organic soup. They're creamy tomato. Delicious tastes just like good. Yeah they copied Campbell's what can you do. Meredith breath you killed at Gir. I mean that's great now. We have some very important business to get down to. We want to give a special shout out to one of our favorite favorite patriots. Subscribers Colleen Egan and we are going to give her last name so I don't care if she's hiding in the closet she's a ten times. Lesbian has been hiding in the closet with three husbands. And don't tell anyone I listen to w politics I'm like too bad. Last names on blast colleen because you fucking made scrunchy. Nineteen eighteen million scrunchy nineteenth coming to an end relatively soon very soon six more weeks and there were some things I had written down. That didn't really come to fruition and we still have time. That's true. Now I will say that didn't refer to our list very much. No but there's something in my wallet no minds of Chaco. Oh Yeah me too. Oh yes so now I wanna say this however yes you know. It doesn't even matter no it You know why because this made made scrunchy nineteen exactly this was. It's been a banner year and quite frankly that's growing and learning growing growing pains for sure so it's scratchy. Nineteen has not. Let us down but colleen this leprechaun found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and it. It is in the form of the. Yeah I mean the useless feet. Were clicking up. The Hill is calling. When I tell you the Leprechaun legs were due to click in the hills so colleen basically we went on our patriotic podcast and we said we wanted to try? We're going to try these different celebrity alcohols and add because we were drinking this. This is cal by the guys breaking bad right Bryan Cranston and the other Guy Aaron whatever. His name is Aaron. Paul Aaron Paul and so and we don't even drink Tequila or more whisky. COGNAC VODKA But this mess cal was great and it was fun and it was expensive and what we got on this kick and then I said that I have always always coveted the certain Tequila that sits at the top of the top top top of the shelf. It is top of the POPs shelf and it's so beautiful full and always wanted to try. It always coveted it. And when like Jason Moss or Christie or someone got us like a Saucy Gift Card and I saw on saucy that it was so expensive this Tequila. Yeah and so. It's called Casa Zilz in this beautiful blue and white bottle. Ma'am looked it up on the Patriot and we're just shooting. The Shit Colleen is like. That's my favorite fucking taking Tequila. You I will not die if you don't try that and my life until you try it so she basically sent it. She tried to send it to our mailbox six. The French people didn't take it so then she got us a gift certificate you guys. This Tequila is so expensive that even accepting a gift certificate like like this from someone is already like go kill yourself. Give calling her money back but we we. Couldn't I want that Goddamn Tequila Goddamn throat wrote so I was like I'm sorry calling. I literally apologized senator note and I was like. I'm sorry colleen I mean that's I'm really sorry but I gotta use this thing so we so we ordered it colleen I want you to know they have to deliver it in person to be over. Eight twenty one mammals never fucking here. God knows him spicer neighbor. Who stole the bike? Didn't come get take kilo so then she's like literally the other morning she's like. I'm going to get the Tequila. It's in Santa Clarita. I'm going to pick it up. Bam School shooting. Yeah Shut Santa Clara to shut down. I mean and even if it wasn't it's clearly inappropriate like at best and when hone deficit worse to be like going to get my big agenda to keep myself like now. It's probably time to go there but then I thought no no no that that would be. I wouldn't how can I live with myself going up to the place and being like yet really sad and that was awful. It really was just like wow. Is it the level then though so every single parent must be like what is my school at by the way listening. Sorry just getting You you should should assume at your school is going to happen because every school in this entire country is going to be have a shooting. It's like awful. I just was like that really hit me. I was like this. This is I feel sorry for everybody who has to deal with that problem because it's not going to get solved unless you want your kid or with the bulletproof vest right. They're making bulletproof backpacks backpacks. Oh my God that's dark and so sad but it's a good idea. Hey Sharks hey sharks sharks I mean honestly it's a great idea. Oh but colleen it got you know what what happened was mammy got cronk with the place on the phone because it was like. Ain't nobody driving out to Santa Clarita to pick up God's Tequila okay. The Shit is Jesus tears when he was on the Cross being crucified. That's the level of this Tequila. Probably men with gavee. Plants are putting spells and doing whatever the fuck they're doing down in Mexico. It's it's heaven on earth and it needs to be delivered in the manner in which it deserves so mammal went way. Jewish the real quick right now. Yeah I mean basically it was like hello I have been waiting for this Tequila. It was it's been two days and there's two different Notices on my door I don't know what to do but I can tell you this. I work I'm not home. I don't work that's a lot however I'm I'm not home and when you said you're going to be here you weren't and when I said I was going to be here. You're why wasn't so when I said I was going to be here. I was but I didn't didn't answer the door because they have a lot of issues. Now listen I don't want those importantly so can you just leave it here. No no you can't all right. Well here's what you're GONNA do. What do you need? You need an adult assigned for it. That's fine. I have an address for you. It's our place of business. Okay this is where I want you to send it and she was like okay now. Is it colleen we have the Tequila. It's three feet tall. We almost made love to it. It's it's I don't know I'm I'm going to be with tonight. So it's huge colleen. It's gorgeous it's gorgeous. I believe that at night grows arms and legs. It's going to become alive. I have spent that amount of money on alcohol before only Cognac. And nothing and I mean nothing. Nothing has made me feel the way this bottle of Tequila makes me feel it is so fucking upper echelon ever Marie way. It's not like it's not thirsty. It's not screaming it's understated you know what I mean. It's cool. It looks like it. It doesn't even look like it contains it looks like a piece of It looks like ashes ashes. A vase from the Ming Dynasty right exactly Xinhua slash Spanish vase. Well you really nailed it call you really nailed it and we are glowing who lowing Lilo literally took pictures of it. We did a photo shoot with it. We were like we're clout chasing were clout arrival where cloud owning we have the clout called Casa cloud. The CASA clout has arrived. It's here we have it. There's no more chase the chases over and you know some people think that's all you care about. Note we care about the SIP and we did do one one. Yes it's good. She described it. She said that there's of vanilla accurate. The Vanilla note colleen. The Vanilla note note is accurate and it makes the whole thing as smooth and we just stared at each other's is we were very sitting very close uh-huh and I was like if this bitch makes a face like we do when we drink Tequila because we like to like telegraph. How KEILA SOX and how it's annoying that everyone's into it but and then we drink whisky as its water because problems their personal problems in their addiction problems and their mood problems so then we go? I looked I stared her in the is and she didn't do it did you. Didn't because it was smooth. Joel Beverage and colleen I want you to know we are not even done with the ten day. Aj Challenge now. I think Jalen roof. I think she would to do not just try that. We have to you know we had to. It's been a long time coming and it really. It really made scrunchy. Nineteen it really doing. I mean it's amazing. So thank you so much so so much. 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Now it's time for the Shit Storm mm-hmm Shit put up on the wall. Chicken Shit off of the Washington. put it down album flaws in the glass take so fuck put up on the wash with okay so the impeachment inquiry hearings. These are in full effect with no signs of slowing down. There are tons more witnesses on the schedule for this week but all we wanNA think about. Are The democratic debates in our upcoming Thanksgiving thanksgiving leftovers so get the shit storm today and go right into a segment that we love but rarely get the chance to do called making connections Um breath this is a relatively new segment called making connections where we connect act with someone more successful than us in an attempt to make ourselves look admirable and accomplished to our fourteen listeners and if at any point in the interview there's is a good opening we will hit said guests up for a job and or other connections that could benefit us in the future and we are very excited about connecting getting with our very connected guests today. He's a lawyer whose name is synonymous with stormy Daniels. And if you don't know who that is who the fuck cares. Kylie Jenner. Obviously not named her goddamn baby stormy so now you might already think you know who our guest is today but what you don't know. Is that this slim. Ah telegenic. Legal Eagle has been fighting the establishment and gaining a name for himself over the years with his fearless demand for justice and his this constant fight for the underdog besides stormy Daniels. He's represented a shit ton of celebrities from Paris Hilton to Christine Aguilara to Don Henley. He's known in legal circles does as a bad boy who gets good result and he sure does this mother. Fucker has over a billion dollars in verdicts and settlements in his favor. He's is one million awards. He's been on every single news. Show morning show talk show. I mean every single one known to mankind. He's hot he's funny and he's notoriously well-connected connected so it's about Goddamn time that we make some connections with Michael Ascher Naughty. Hi Michael. I've got all kinds. The jobs thank you yes accomplish. I want to work at a law. Apparently you can clean it. Hello Eboni Deon associated. Both clearly very good liars so excellently Myers now okay the first off the Bat Julie's obsessed with your body and she swears that you do iron man competitions. Is She right or insane. Only in the bedroom. Oh my God. What is your workout? Do Marathon triathlon. Here's what I've said and I've said I've said it publicly said Senate a thousand times officer. I've said publicly. I've said ICE. Imagine you have bike shorts under those pants because I feel like you are doing twenty seven miles of bike J. I feel like when you're done with work. Rip Your clothes off and you have the slim type thing that's got like words on it you you get on the bike you ride. Then you're GONNA pop. I swim you swim another twenty miles. Then you run home from being seventy five miles away but you don't think I wear like a unitarian animals. I'm talking about the racing the racing because she would the first time we saw you on. TV She's like. I feel like that guy has literally like like a Bike Jersey on under that ten speed home interview because you look fit with thank thank you. I'm not as fit today. Actually as I was before the whole stormy Daniels lawsuit and journey began Because it took up an enormous amount of time every day but I appreciate that. Thank you very nice of you. Welcome go out okay. I should have done this podcast. uh-huh okay now. Speaking of stormy you became a household name when you stormed thank you onto the scene representing getting stormy Daniels. Most people would mistakenly assume that major career but as we looked into that is not the truth. Now I'm going to read the tweet that you have pinned on the the top of your twitter okay. This is your tweet before stormy one over a billion verdict settlements as lead counsel to multiple high profile cases on sixty minutes etc three third largest verdict in the country in two thousand seventeen for four hundred and fifty four million dollars for named to top forty under forty in California in two zero seven. Five Live trial lawyer of the Year award in twenty nine so that was pre stormy. So tell us what's going on post stormy well you know. I think one of my biggest frustrations actually is That a lot of people define me by the stormy Daniels case so it had a lot of positives obviously for my career in my life but there's also a lot of negatives that have gone along with that and that matter has at least in the public arena defined me and and you know that's unfortunate because also this you know I'm I'm a hell of a trial lawyer. I'm I'm really good in a courtroom and I've been really good for a long time and I don't. I'd say that to be egotistical. But it's a fact I'll try any case anywhere against anybody in the United States and I have confidence in my abilities in that regard. Now there's a lot of other other things in life that I'm not any good at but that's one of the things that I'm actually commitment intimacy. Both have we met that. The stormy Daniels matter has kind of defined people see me in a lot of ways this is a TV lawyer. Because there's all these lawyers that are on television that haven't been in a courtroom in decades like I can't let let's take Rudy Giuliani firm for for a minute Rudy Giuliani. I don't know the last time he gave an opening or closing statement in a courtroom cross. Examine the witness argued. A motion argued before a jury jury. It's probably been at least twenty years And there's numerous other examples of attorneys that you see on television. These legal pundits so-called experts spurts. They haven't set foot in a courtroom in in deck. That's a good point. Yeah that is a good lady. Lady that goes with all the Women Gloria allred. Yeah Oh yes. She goes daughter to I. I I don't know the last time that she was in a courtroom. I know I know Lisa. Her daughter. who has been has been in a courtroom. I don't know the last time. Gloria allred was in a courtroom. It's so interesting I never thought about it. I didn't either. That's a good point and we were also talking to or wondering like when you're a trial lawyer like that you're not technically a defense attorney. Your what is it. Is it like a general. You're like a general attorney while you're known. Trial Attorneys are known as plaintiffs attorneys because they represent plaintiffs the predominantly Most of your high profile successful trial attorneys will represent a plaintiff's on a contingency basis. Frankly because you you know for many that's where most of the money's at You know if you succeed. In those cases you get a percentage of the winnings as opposed to working on an hourly basis and you end up supporting people are representing people. I should say who otherwise could not afford that level of legal talent because they don't have the money to take out of their pocket and pay an attorney a on a per hour basis so not all trial attorneys not all exceptional trial attorneys work in the plane of side. But I would say that. Probably seventy five percent of them Do so you know going back to your question though. I mean clearly given the stormy Daniels matter and what transpired With that has changed my career and my life and a lot of ways. But you know here's something a lot of people don't understand. This is really never been talked about. You gotta understand when stormy Daniels came to me. Stormy Daniels was not interested in removing the president from office displacing Donald Trump. She wasn't a donald trump hater. In fact I think she may have voted for him in my twenty six okay. What stormy Daniels was upset about was stormy Daniels was upset because she had entered into this? Nda Agreement and gotten paid one hundred thirty thousand dollars and she felt like she was correct. That Michael Cohen had breached the agreement and he was running his mouth to the Wall Street Journal and she was very upset that she she couldn't talk as well. She didn't like the inequity in this. Okay so stormy Daniels came to me with this. NDA she didn't come to me looking to displace the president present at the time. That stormy Daniels came to me and wanted me to represent her. I just had this four hundred and fifty four million dollar jury verdict had nearly twenty year career. It'd be a highly successful attorney. I had a lot of opportunities to represent a lot of people and let me just tell you something I want to roll out of bed to represent somebody on one hundred thirty thousand our indy. I just wanted wanted. I wasn't at that place in my career. Now backup fifteen seventeen years prior. That's a different story. I didn't get involved in the stormy Daniels case because I wanted to WHO Assist her necessarily getting out of the India and just have that be it. I assisted stormy Daniels and took on that representation. Put My career put my my family put myself on the line Really Hung it all out there for one reason and one reason only and that was because I thought it could take down a president right but she didn't sure thing was like I just WanNa be able to talk if Michael Collins going to talk about it. I want to talk about a two. That was her initial. That was her initial ass. That's what that's what she wanted in. And I saw the bigger picture because of my experience in the law because of my experience in politics and my knowledge of campaign finance law when I look at the when I looked at the Indiana a and learned what had happened. I immediately saw that. Trump had a significant problem that they have committed. Criminal acts in the payment of this one hundred thirty thousand dollars dollars and this could potentially cause him to be removed from the presidency. And that's what intrigued me at that point in my career. Well exposing him was I mean every Arlo artless of what happened to you know clearly. There's nothing he he he can't go shoot someone in the street. Nothing campaign finance was always just handled with a fine well. No there's been other cases that were the Department of Justice has sought criminal charges and criminal charges for instance Edwards down in North North Carolina. Now they were unsuccessful in that prosecution but they did bring a criminal fusion against him. But you know the other thing is the other thing that intrigued me. About representing representing stormy was Was the fact that I was going to go up against you. Know the most powerful man on the planet and I've made a career and I've taken on the biggest baddest corporations nations in many powerful individuals over the years and I was excited by that and I I like a challenge and I also understood that I was going to be fighting somebody. I'm in the media that this was going to be fought in the courtroom but it was also going to be fought from a PR and a media standpoint. And I was going to go up against somebody. That is very good at managing media media cycles in running press and and knows how to play the game and I liked that challenge and I you know I think a lot of a lot of legal pundits criticized various things that I did along the way. But they don't understand you can't you can't litigator every case the same. This is a different case. When you're litigating the case against the president of the United States especially a guy like this you have to use a different set of tools that you otherwise would use you? Don't use the same tools if you were litigating against some corporation in downtown Los Angeles. It's a different ballgame. Did you represent Karen McDougal to know. But I had many conversation with Mr who was better in bed stormy Daniels yeah I know intimate relations with either one of many many people many the people ask that question. They assume that I had an yourself eh. Chemistry with stormy. I know John John Heideman on that on the show you did within the circus or whatever he definitely thought you guys bond down. I was getting that you know what I like John. One of the reasons I like John is that he he likes Great Danes. He has great Danes and I have a great Dane instead of paying so we you know we we have that in common. I think I think they do a great show on that a great job in that show. They crashed that show like four days and the quality of what they put out his. Yeah amazing so I'm a big fan of that show but going back to your question. I don't know which one was better in bed. I know which relationship lasted a lot longer. I'm certain that was Karen McDougal because she thought girlfriend or whatever. So did this row in your life like would you not do it again. You know. That's a really interesting question and I asked. I asked myself that question at least once once or twice a day. Yeah and it depends on the day you know. I have days where I say. There's no way in Hell I would do this again and other days that I say yeah I would do it I I will say this. There's been a lot of sacrifice associated with this. It may have ruined my life. I don't know I took it for the right reasons though. I got involved for the right reasons because I think that Donald trump is a threat to the democracy that we have in the a threat to the republic I I firmly believe that. If he's he's reelected again it could be the end of the United States as we know it. I know that's a bold statement but I stand behind it. This man has has really put us on a path due to destruction in my view that we may never recover from and I'm very concerned about this country. I love this country. I had a lot of opportunity growing up in this country. I consider myself I self true Patriot and so you know I. I guess it's too early for me to answer that question. I'm going to have to wait and see how things play out. Obviously have some legal challenges and I'm having to face now we're GonNa see what happens in twenty twenty. We're going to see if he's reelected or not and if he's no longer president of the United States and we're able to put the country back a contract then who knows. Maybe I did a small part to make that happen. We want to find out about your legal troubles or teller fourteen listeners. About them but I would say alike. Obviously what you did was incredible and you will. You'll come down on the right side of history it's not like the OJ lawyers where everyone's like. Oh good glad you died right exactly you know you. You didn't do anything wrong if anyone like toxins shit. They're just jealous. And you know it's like it might have ruined your life but you can change your priorities. You know I mean you can change. You can just take a different path in life but it was obviously it was well worth it and it was it was certainly the beginning of the takedown. AAC Down. You're the only person when stormy Daniels came out in the whole thing came out. It was like this guy is the only one who's like talking roughly at least or a little aggressively or a little like wanting to get into the fight and you and you're the only one doing it and so for that. Yeah that that started. That gave a F- a few people some courage. It gave a little bit of fire to some other people and they should be thankful to you for that. Well you know it was interesting because in September October of last year you know a better aurore. who was on his? You know he was on his run where everybody loved him in the in the press and I knew that was never gonNa last last But he was interviewed by The New York Times and he was asked about me and he said well. Michael Avenue doesn't represent Most of US Democrats and I had to laugh about that and I thought you know what number one I don't think that's true in number two if it is true. It's a significant problem. Because here's been the problem with the Democrats for a long period of time and I've been talking about this for a long time. They're not rough enough. They're not tough enough. They're not fighters had a democratic high level democratic operative. Tell me I. I was a green room last year. And she summed it up as she said. You know what Michael she said. It was when I was thinking about running for the presidency and she said I think you should absolutely run. I said why is that. And she said the Democratic Party has a lot of talent but they don't have a lot of fighters and that's always been true and it's become so much more important now because we have have this man man in the White House and this guy's a brawler. You can say a lot of things about him and I do say that the a lot of things about him. But you can't say that he's not a fighter or a brawler or he won't won't go to the Mat because he will and what the Democrats don't understand is you're not going to beat that guy by talking about puppies and daisies. You WanNa beat that guy. I guess what you're going to have to nominate. Somebody is distasteful as it might be. That's a little like him. That can scrap with him. That can get down in the gutter now. That doesn't mean that once you win you govern that way but what Democrats don't understand is you don't win. You don't govern right. And this is a very unique seeks situation right now and the Democrats better figure this out and they better make sure that they nominate somebody that can actually scrap with this guy and trade blows with them. Because that's what it's GonNa take now look. Am I happy about that. Do I wish it was different. Of course I wish it was different but it's not different. We got to be real about what we're facing right now. You know I I said a few a few months ago I said you know. Donald trump in a lot of ways is the Kryptonite for the Democratic Party. And what I mean by that is He represents everything that Democrats hate everything that they loathe. But you're not going to beat him by nominating somebody that represents everything Democrats love because he will crush them. Yeah and that. And that's the problem. I mean that is a significant problem and look the guy is a moron about ninety. I five percent of things in life but he's brilliant and exceptional about five percent of those things five percent of things in life and one of those things is. He's a brawler. He's really good on messaging. He's got some pretty good political instincts. Actually he's got great energy out on the funny he's entertaining he and he holds in today's society when you see how people get their information on social media etc he can hold. You're absolutely right. He can hold an audience and he can change He can change the the script. If you will on a moment's notice change emphasis. I mean you know. He's he's smart in that regard and he's not to be underestimated. Okay so what can you tell us about the trouble that you're in. Can you. Anything like who. Who are you in trouble with? Were you framed. Well here's here's what I'll say I'm very limited in what I can get into as it relates to details on these cases. I really can't get into any of the details but you know there's no question in my view that I would not be facing what I'm facing facing. Had I not taken on the president of the United States the Department of Justice has been absolutely weaponized against his enemies at this point. I never thought I mean it sounds crazy crazy but it's true. I never thought that that would actually happen. It's not just me it's it's others. The Department of Justice has been used by nobody can believe breath. I never thought that that this day would come But you know look. I'm facing some significant legal challenges or so question about that but if you want to eat an elephant you gotta eat at one bite at a time. And that's what we're GONNA do it. We're GONNA take these matters one by one. The first matters going to go to trial in January this case why allegedly extorted Nike which is one of the most absurd things that that we talked to a very rich very successful renowned defense lawyer. I'm not gonNA say his name but he told us that he couldn't even believe that was the most ridiculous thing he's ever heard. It's thing lawyers do that. It's like it's just a joke. I've been charged in that case for doing my fucking job. Yeah that's what he said all right just to be clear right. I was charged in that case for doing my fucking job and if I'm going to be charged in that case then you're gonNA have to charge thousands of lawyers every day across this country you know. It's it's absurd. I feel I gotta be careful because I'm going to get ahead of I get over my. I got to be careful because I don't want to say anything more because I get really passionate about this because it's It's so outrageous. But look if I didn't take on the President President and if I wasn't a threat that wouldn't have happened. Yeah it's it's clear. It's clear that I was a threat. And they knew I was a threat. Is it that is that. Can you say in this particular thing with this. Case is the kind of thing where you're going to go into a courtroom and the judge and everyone in the room it's GonNa be like. Oh God this is just wasting thought like maybe it won't go through the motion of this. We've we've made some motions to dismiss it. We'll see I mean that's a very that's a very high burden Look anytime the power. The government is brought to bear against you especially in a criminal proceeding. It's a very serious matter. I mean the decks are stacked against defendants in this country. Three you know even people like myself who understand the process and have resources and have people that are willing to defend him. You know. It's a very tall task To defend matters I like this but I am confident that when it's all said and done I'm going to be exonerated. One good thing in your favor was that the day that that all happened was the day that those mother fuckers like caught with the college scandal. I remember that I was like well. He's pretty lucky that this whole thing is happening with like Mbeki or whatever because it was was this exact same named from what I remember so I mean. We're now telling our fourteen listeners. But I think a lot of people don't don't know I think what most people know about you now is at stormy Daniels was talking Shit on twitter. I think that's what people think is what you're dealing with. Well you know. Look I mean we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA play that out as well. I mean people were going to learn a lot the details on the facts about what transpired between me and the story and and you know look it's GonNa be a fight for credibility and it's going to be very interesting to see why you know that's an interesting question I mean I think I don't know exactly what has transpired. Frankly I I have some speculation which I'm not gonNA offer right now but you know look. There's a lot of water left to go under the bridge in connection with that matter probably none of this is even going to even see the light of day about it. All just ends up poor stormy Daniels even though I can't stand her. She's probably being blackmailed blackmailed. Or whatever the hell like it's just it's I don't I don't really see any of it actually going very far. I mean I don't know the from Your Lips to God. Yeah we'll see. Well I'm curious to know or we're curious to know. Do you ever feel like you're in danger. Do you ever feel like you know like they're coming. After d'you legally let's say the trump and whatever do you ever feel like did you think Michael Cohen was GonNa roll up with his with his beer belly. You'RE GONNA have to put him in like an Ama like looking headlock or like a half Nelson. I'm I'm very conscious of what's going on around me and I've I've had to become very conscious I it was it was very very Less so now but I'm still. It depends where I am but I'm still very cautious and at the height of this I mean I mean there was constant death threats against me and my family and you know people get my cell phone number. They send me text messages where they threaten my teenage daughters and send me pictures pictures of guns and all kinds of it. There's there is a lot of fucking there is a lot of fucking wacked out. Yeah people out there Many of whom support support trump. Many of whom are upset with me because I had the audacity to take on you know their president quote unquote And Speak Truth to power. And they don't like that and and that's why you know I've got tens of millions of Americans that love me and I've got tens of millions of Americans that hate me no matter what happens the tens of millions of Americans that hate me will always always hate me because I had the data to take on Donald Trump right. Yeah I mean that also I wonder with you. Ah with your political desires. Do you still have political. You know. It's funny because I is very active in politics. In the ninety S I worked on over one hundred fifty. He campaigns in forty two states. And if you'd asked me in the nineties what are you GonNa do. I would've said I'm going to go to law school and then I'm going to prepare for a career in politics and I'm going to run for office and who knows maybe someday I'll run for for the presidency because I was a political animal during those six or seven years I worked on every big case in the US other than presidential races And I was highly active and then I got completely burned out and I saw the soft underbelly of politics and I said you know what I'm done. So after nineteen ninety-seven I thought that I would never get involved in politics again and you know had. I thought that I would be involved in politics. There's a bunch of stuff that I did that I would not have done. There's a bunch of stuff that I that I should have done that. I didn't do and so even if you would have backed up a month or a week or a day before I met stormy Daniels and that whole thing took off or even in the very beginning stages I had no oh desires or interest in necessarily running for anything or being involved politically and what happened. was that whole thing took off and really beyond even my expectations. When I went to New York when we filed the case I had like three or four days worth of clothes? I came back twenty one days later to La to get close. I was here twenty four hours. I went back to New York. I did not anticipate that that whole thing would catch fire the way it did and that that people would be so taken by somebody actually speaking in truth to power and standing up to this guy and so I started to you know I started to adapt to the situation and people started seeing me kind of as a leader of the left a leader of the resistance and I pushed back on that for a long time and the reason why push back on it. Frankly was because I didn't want that a case to become politicized I know it sounds crazy as we sit here now but initially I wanted that case to be all about the facts. It's about an Indie a whether it was signed or or not whether there were parties the agreement has been violated etc.. I wanted to be very factual and I did not want politicized and then you know sooner or later I I said to myself you know what people want to make this leader of the left okay. I'll be the leader of the left. Let's go what did you do on campaigns and did you ever meet trump before you had dealing dealing with trump and the trump time so I used to do opposition research and media relations back in the nineties on campaign so I was Pretty well versed in how you can use information and how you can leak information the press and how you can utilize the press campaigns which I think ultimately served me well in connection with this matter and then I met trump twice once I had a I had a prior lawsuit against him and Mark Burnett over over the five five radio premise over the apprentice where I represented a client along with another exceptional couple exceptional lawyer here in Los Angeles. I was a junior lawyer at the time time. It was really their case but our client had come up with the idea of the apprentice. Oh Shit legitimately not like you know. Oh I came up with Star Wars so you know ten years after the fact about this guy actually came up with the idea. He went to mark Burnett's producer System producer pitch the idea in basically Burnett that in and trump stole the idea from him and And we filed suit and we successfully Settled that lawsuit. I met trump in connection with that case because he was deposed posed in connection with that case and then the second time I met trump I was dating a woman who I ultimately married And we were in a a bar at Boa off a sunset. It was early on in our relationship and I walked up to the bar together. A glass of wine and I came back and trump trump was all over her. Like look it up talking to her and the whole bit blouse. That was pretty funny. That was a pretty funny moment. Tom Arnold told us when he he came on here. That Mark Burnett got a dog and didn't wanted anymore and and had it put down and basically. Tom Believed that Mark Burnett basically had the dog killed. Because he didn't want any more somehow Julie Leslau and created a scenario canarian. Her mind where Mark Burnett killed this dog with his bare hands. Like she's like we should ask. Michael if Mark Burnett killed the dog with bare hands on my no one ever Said said that. Okay your honor. I want to say that. Here's where here's the facts. In the case allegedly Mark Burnett. I was trained in like M. I.. Five like black ops and he got like some special special breed of dog got his puppy. Couldn't take it anymore. And then. The trainer came to one day to train the dog. Dogs Dead Doug on I do believe Mark Burnett the field the dog I think he I think he killed the dog with his own. This barry on I would like to know if you in meeting Mark Brunell. He's capable of killing a dog. Do I think Mark Burnett is capable of killing the dog. I think I think probably anybody is capable of loser now. You can listen to sleep or do you think. He took the dog out behind the barn and shot with Ramadan Harry non. I have no idea and I love Tom. Arnold Tom Friend he's a good guy. But if you're if you'RE GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA make this pitch. Might I suggest jess you find. Perhaps another source. I don't need it right. This is why I can't be a lawyer or a judge along with Tom because she comes back. And she's like Mark Burnett Mr Winkle the dog and I can't I can't I know that that's what she loves live and I just don't understand. Kills there because because they don't want the dog I just can't deal with a vet for putting a question yes can. Can you sue if you hang a dog in. That's perfectly healthy. Perfectly weekly healthy. You don't bring to a shelter you bring it into a vet and go. Can you just kill this. Is that legal. It likely is unfortunately legal in most. Oh states because in most states dogs are considered property as opposed to a horrified announced. Great Danes have balls still or do you get him. Cut Off Well my great Dane is a female cat. God usually people with Great Danes. Leave the balls on and there are enormous and it's just a thing where it's like too much. Yeah it's a little too much. No I bet you John Heidel men or whatever has his balls on his great Dane. We should ask them. I'm going to tweet him and ask him if he has a female dog or talk so I can fight the urge to comment on this but go ahead you can. Here's what I think. Think I was going to save this for the end. I have ma'am out. Put it at the end but I really think this is some good genius advice for you. I don't know if you have the time. I think think that you should with all of your expertise and opposition research. I think you should pro bono even though this could get you killed but it would. It'd be worth it. I think you should do opposition. Research on Mitch. McConnell and singlehandedly. Get that motherfucker out of office and you will become. I mean it's not even you're not it's not even a hero. It's an icon. Alleged leader of the resistance like everyone is looking for Mitch McConnell to be gone on he obviously has a thousand cocaine filled skeletons in the closet. Not to mention the fucking wife like it's gotta be not that hard to find especially for you you since you know what you're doing that's interesting advice actually. Yeah I agree with you mid Mitch. McConnell is a significant problem as it relates to how are our ability continued operators nation at this point. We president can't take it. Oh I've said you know often over the last six weeks that that's that's the most important relationship on the face of the planet Trump and and McConnell. I mean that's the most important relationship to trump if Mitch McConnell turns on trump. He's done it's over. It would just be so great if he was out. I mean and and humiliated out. I don't even go out and look I mean. Stranger things have happened if Mitch McConnell Donald who is up for election of course reelection if he concludes that trump could cost the Republicans the Senate or could cost McConnell his seat in Kentucky. Pitch McConnell will cut trump loose quicker than you can imagine because it'll all be about self preservation Mitch McConnell's not going to run for reelection risk. His seat be elected elected and then served in the minority the US Senate. He doesn't want that. So that's the key. The key is is that if McConnell loses faith and trump's ability Forget about Winning the White House or not but if trump if McConnell loses faith in trump's ability to actually help them maintain the Senate it's over that's interesting interesting. Yeah because he doesn't want his power if you were to run for president or when you're thinking about it and you looked around at the landscape of the candidates that were there. What did you think that you could bring to the table? Or what would you do differently than the other candidates that are there now. You know it's a great question and and look. I spent a lot of time thinking about this. I traveled around the country. I raise money for a lot of Democrats. Spent a lot of time in the key. Swing states especially in Ohio and and other places in Pennsylvania Selena etc because my belief was that if you could not understand what happened in those jurisdictions in twenty sixteen then you could not fix it for twenty twenty money if you could not appeal to voters there you're not going to be Donald Trump and and this is a six state race. Okay I love California. I Love New York. I spend most of my time in those. Those two places love South Florida. Guess what. That's not where this case. So that's how we're this This election is going to be decided. It's going to be decided in six states. Now we can bitch and complain and talk about the Electoral College Etcetera. But it's not changing between now and twenty twenty and I've got. There's too many Democrats that don't have not come to the realization in that this is a six state race. Okay so to the Democrats that are listening in and of the fourteen people that are listening. I'm guessing most of them are Democrats all right. You need to understand something. It doesn't matter about the popular vote doesn't mean Shit and the only thing that matters is who is the person that can beat Donald trump in these five five or six states because I could envision a scenario where donald trump could lose the popular vote by six million. I'll be reelected and if you thank people. Were upset the morning after in two thousand sixteen and that was before we knew what a disaster a dumpster fire of president. This guy be imagine what people would think so. I spent a lot of time In these key swing states and well the key. Swing states are Ohio. Pennsylvania Wisconsin Michigan Michigan Pennsylvania. Are you said. Pennsylvania North Carolina in Arizona North Carolina's purple. Yeah I didn't know that I say from Florida Code. So Pennsylvania Wisconsin Michigan Florida North Carolina Arizona Seven Not Texas. No no and a lot of people people accidents Ohio. A lot of people at this point. Say you know it's either six or seven because a lot of people are just county in Ohio out at this point. They think that Ohio may be lost for the Democrats because they they may be right about that but I spent a lot of spent twenty. I made twenty five trips across about three months to those key states when I was thinking about When I was thinking about running so look too? Many Democrats are focused on in my view. The perfect candidate. You can't let the good candidate B. The you or or the perfect candidate be the enemy of the good. Okay you just you just can't you're not gonNA this isn't going to be a revolutionary election. Ladies and gentlemen. I know you want that. I now. A lot of you would really like to see. Listen not going to be the revolution you are not going to unseat. Donald Trump with a revolutionary candidate. And and let me just give you this stat guy. We've been around for over two hundred years in this country. In the history of the United States there has never been an incumbent president who is run run for reelection with a decent economy and lost. It is never happened in the history of this country. Now we've never had a man. Dan Like Donald Trump in the presidency granted. But there's a lot of statistics and a lot of data that suggests that this guy could be will be reelected and for that reason. I preach on this every day. It is imperative that the Democrats nominate somebody that can win in those states weights period. That's all that matters. We have a lot of the fourteen. They're pretty much spread out in those seven states out say yup so you like Joe Biden then I do. I like Joe Buyten. Look do I think Joe Biden do I wish it was more progressive. Yes do I wish. And I'm going to be really candid about this. Do I wish that Joe Biden would a run. Last time. I think Joe Biden with a run in two thousand sixteen we want to be talking about Donald Trump. I wouldn't even be here right now. 'cause you wouldn't even know I was as it relates to the stormy Daniels case right Do I do I wish that job. What do I wish that? Joe Biden was shoo-in shoo-in Joe Biden's twenty years younger. Yes do I have concerns about. Whether he's got enough fuel in the tank to get this done through the election I do okay. A lot of people do look. I mean let's bullshit each other all these people. This is one of the things like all these people sitting around and they have all these whisper campaigns pains and talked about all this shit of these cocktail parties and everything else but they don't come out publicly and talk about it. Okay in the bottom line is I have that concern a lot of other people have that concern. I think he does does have enough fuel in the tank. I think it's a legitimate concern. But here's what I know. I know that when I was travelling in all of those states and I was talking to voters up and down all these state I know how they reacted to discussions about Joe Biden. And it's very favorable. Yeah Okay and it's a IT'S A it's a small change a Lotta people would say it's a small change from Donald Trump. Okay but it's an important. I mean I think it's a significant enough change. It's not a revolutionary candidate it's not a Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren but look I don't think Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth. Warren can beat Donald Trump. In those states I just I just don't and and so and there's a lot of people a lot of Democrats that actually happen to agree with me and here's the other thing. Here's the other. Problem is all about the matchup K.. I. I think that Elizabeth Warren for Instance Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. I think they'd both make a much better president than I ever would. No question about it. I mean they've served time in the A. US Senate they have all this policy experience. They have much more governmental experience. They don't have a shot in hell of beaten Donald Trump me. I would actually have a pretty good shot of beaten Donald Trump. Because it's all about the matchup. Now you bring in you bring in somebody like Romney as the nominee on the republican side. you run me versus Romney Versus Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders Against Romney. I'd get crushed because that's not a good matchup. That's what people don't understand it's all about who's GonNa match-up Best Against Donald Trump. That's really because yeah I mean we gotta ask ourselves. What are we trying to do here? I thought that the number one goal. You GotTa Win. You don't win you don't govern it. I don't care how. How great your policies are I? Don't care how many policy books you put out or how deep you are in policy. I mean ask. Hillary Clinton Hillary Clinton was the most qualified competent competent candidate to ever seek the presidency in the history of the United States. In my view. Forget about whether she's a man or woman nobody was ever more qualified to seek the office office than Hillary Clinton deepen policy knowledgeable. Smart Guess What didn't matter you know why because she wasn't able to beat Donald Trump and electoral college. Well that's why if Joe Biden got it all the more you hero you would be getting Mitch McConnell out because then it really wouldn't matter because that is what would really change a stranglehold on the Senate and it makes all the difference. Now we love Joe Biden love and we just went and saw him speak the other day. I'm downtown but and I want to say one of my good friends. She doesn't know who the vice president is is right now Joe Biden so I feel like she's not even GonNa know anyone any of the other candidates names so even though you talk about those seven states the primaries aries. It's a different thing though right. Because they get the primary they gotta get elected. I and that's going to be decided by California right because California moved up the date that we vote. Well I I don't know if ultimately it may be over by the time we get to California may not be over by the time you get to California I think Super Tuesday South Carolina and some of these other states states are going to be critically important to who the the nominee as you know. Let let me also say this. I've broken bread and spend time with and I'm very impressed by mayor. Eh repeat I always have been okay. Mayor Pete is the smartest person in the field. Let me just say that. Okay no question. The guy is brilliant. I think Mayor Pete would make a great great president. I have serious concerns about whether mayor P can beat Donald Trump. Now again somebody else different story I. I don't know that he can meet Donald Trump. You know here. Here's the other thing. Do you think Obama would come out for Biden. Oh I think he went. Why think Obama's GonNa come out for whoever the Democrats they do? You think he's GonNa come out for the in the primary no I don I think I mean I I have a pretty good Basis of knowledge to know that Barack Rock Obama's going to remain on the sidelines until there is actually a nominee. He's not going to endorse anybody. Prior to the convention He's not GonNa put put his finger on the scale. I know that for a fact. It's not if you met Obama because I'm GONNA die. Have you all my God shits. It's our favorite like her everything. I Love Barack Obama. Okay so that's kind of a bummer. Though I mean if I like Barack Obama Tom I don't love Barack Obama. I will say that no but no but I thought he did. I thought he did a good job as president. I think that he was You know certainly certainly. A revolutionary candidate was in a very tough spot. You know very difficult to to do what he did. There's no question about that. But look he took a whiff on the garland seed. I'm sorry I will never be able to know but see. They didn't do anything though. I I gotTa tell you. I'm I'm a student the law. I'm assuming the law and see what I recognize is Mitch McConnell and these guys. I mean. They're they're not stupid. You Know Mitch. McConnell held up all those judicial seats during the Barack Obama Administration and now trump has been able to fill those seats in. And I'm GonNa tell you. That has a huge impact on American life presidents. Come and go but these judges staff yeah for decades and every Democrat saying Oh we're not going to stack the court and I'm like this. Why God what really disappointed me was that when the whole will hillary email situation when they knew? Russia was meddling in the election. Obama was told and Mitch McConnell said if you make an announcement or do a press this conference. We're GONNA say you're playing party politics. So he didn't say anything and critical mistake me out but I just feel like Obama had to walk like you know a straighter line and and You know I just. He's just like somebody I look up to and I think he made the best bad decisions like he said. And there's things that disappointed me but I know He couldn't be as like while an out as he probably wanted to be. And God knows he had to quit smoking and I'm sure he didn't want to. Well you know you asked me what I thought. That's what I thought I would would bring to the table Byron. I was going to be the fighter of the group. I mean that was that was always my persona and I was going to own it and look I was going to be the guy that was gonna call gutter with trump and and like it is and really trade shots with him and look. I think a lot of people would have liked to have seen that up. Oh I think the debates would have been the typical chains. I was just GonNa say like you obviously. Do we want to see you debate. Donald Trump. Yes I would as even if that's not even real thing it should be a thing like a pay per view. I want you to debate. Donald trump that should be a thing. But since we're not gonNA have that yeah I you know unfortunately really it's like do I want to see Burr Bernie's insane. I could see him kind of giving a fight with Donald trump but no one else except Kamala I think could get in their top him down. Maybe Joe Biden Candido but we do love him and I. I love Joe Biden even when he was vice president. I think he's classy. And and he's fit and I said I just like it and he wears a suit thankfully as aviator there's maybe Any looked great the other day he came any. He's friendly. He's charismatic. He's charming. He can touch me on the shoulder. Anytime me on the forehead ahead. I don't care that does not bothered like he's he seems like a loving person. I like him I like him. So is there any Democrat. That's been fighter in your glasses nation. Well you know a lot a lot of people forget this but Bill Clinton was a fighter. I mean Bill Clinton knew a win. See it's interesting because a lot of people forgotten that both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama you know we're we're fighters in at least when they were trying to win the presidency. I mean you know Bill Clinton was a scrapper I mean. They went very dirty in nineteen ninety two to win that election James Carville they they pulled out all the stops that hold back. You know. It wasn't a and that that you didn't get reelected elected right. Because that was George Bush who didn't get correct but the economy had gone George Bush's approval rating was eighty one percent in nineteen ninety-one because of the Desert Storm and then by the time that the election rolled around in ninety two approval rating was thirty seven percent because the economy took a significant downturn. So something something like the banks or something well. Bush and Bush was He couldn't answer the questions about how much a loaf of bread was and a carton of milk and and as I recall there was a whole scanner grocery scanner thing that he He didn't know that you could actually get Barco groceries. The grocery store and that was all she wrote although trump thinks you have to show. Id to buy groceries here in the United States. I don't know if you remember. I don't remember that but the fact that people think he's a man the people or some sort of this is a guy that I just don't understand. This is a guy that has crapped on a gold toilet his entire life and grow with a silver spoon his mouth and this guy is is working class. President it's absurd. I just what do you think like. Doesn't that make you like what what what what. How did he what what is it like? What is it that do you think that he speaks to the people who like who these people who are like you know? He's a working can manning coworkers and then you know his down. And why are they getting that from him. Well I think it's a couple of things first of all the way that he speaks wchs he doesn't. He doesn't speak like an elitist. He doesn't he speaks their language and that that goes a long way. So that's number one number two. It's what I said earlier earlier. You know he's a scrapper he's a brawler and they want somebody Whether they fully agree with them or not they want somebody that they feel is going to fight for them. Okay that's number two and number three three you know. Let's be frank. Make America great again now. It was make America white again. That's really what that was all about. You took an entire. They tapped into trump's trump's too stupid to have come up with it it was really banned and others and it was. It was brilliant Reagan. It was it was deep. CVs but it was brilliant. What they did and that was that they understood that there was this whole? Oh body of the population okay all white males that had felt like they had lost all this outrage over this over the last thirty forty years and guess what they had lost lost a lot of power okay to two women. Thank God to to African-americans. Thank God to minorities thank God. They still had make no mistake about. They still have sixty five percent of the power. If you will in America you're not you're not prejudice because you're a white male in America. I'm sorry you're not GonNa Convince me and I'm a white guy in so I can and I can speak to that but that's a bunch of bullshit but they convince these people that you know what we're GonNa make America great again which means we're going to restore all this power that has I've been quote stripped from you over these last three or four decades and they tapped into that it was highly successful. That's why you have if it's about money we all are grow. I mean I speak for myself. I'm a grotesque materialistic capitalist island. Need to hear somebody talking about. You're GONNA make money. I'm going to get you a job. Money the minute he got elected Julius crying we are in Mexico. Go like this. I Bet I'm going to get a lot of acting. Jobs is like a gold gold digging whore. Now that MELANIA's first lady. I'M GONNA be auditioning all the time like that's the kind of mercenary or scenario shit. I'm thinking about really I- shockingly. I was like where AM I. Slept all the people who were going to get whatever jobs that they have none none of it were and none of it for any yet. They still support him. So I just don't from from you and stormy Daniels to this moment. Not One thing can take him down. They won't believe anything. Yeah it's like what more what do you think as a lawyer even could you. What what would it take to take him down really now that you've gone through this and you thought you had this you had X. Y. Z.? You had eight Z to take him down out and none of it would do it. What what well I mean? There were a couple rulings of the case from the from the federal judge that kind of clip our wings a little bit and so that had a big impact act on it. I mean look. Here's what I think is going to take. It's GonNa take somebody to Square off with him in a very public setting I e debate eight and embarrassed the shit out of them. It's just like a school yard bully. This is example. I've used even when I was thinking about running guy. There's that moment on the school yard. When the school school yard bullies no longer the school yard bully when he gets hit in the back of the head with the balance score he gets knocked on his ass and the rest of the kids? Go you know what this. It's not that tough anymore and see. I think think that's going to be the key if he makes it to To Election Day I think the key is going to be. There's going to be a moment to in these debates on windows going to open and the question's she's GonNa be whether the Democrats have nominated the person that can really step into that window step into that moment and deliver the knockout blow in embarrassed the shit out of this guy embarrass him to the point where people are laughing at them. You know it was very interesting. A very poignant. Moment happened many many months ago probably about six nine months ago he was addressing the UN and He made some comment about how great he was. or how great the something was and the members of the UN started laughing at him. Yeah and he and he was he he he didn't know what to do. And I watched this right and I was like you know what this is a son of a bitch. I can't take a punch. This is a guy that if you cut him hill fault and that's what it's going to have to be. You're going to have to cut him and bury him on the stage. And that's what it's GonNa take. It's GonNa take somebody to step in and inactive meat with like nine drag Queens. Jim How to read them to fill remember is it don't like because Joe Biden might stutter around so tell our fourteen listeners listeners where they control you in stock you and you know if you want them to why. I already got a lot of trolls. 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Critical Rage Theory

Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

56:32 min | 11 months ago

Critical Rage Theory

"On New Year's Eve, nineteen, ninety, nine, flat Amir Putin became president of Russia. At the time he was underestimated as a threat to world democracy and stability. This was in part due to Western perception of Russia as a weakened state. But Putin has also spent decades employing Western public relations specialists to soften his image as a ruthless KGB agent who had skillfully navigated oligarch turf forced. Instead he sought to be seen as the tough, but lawfully elected representative of fledgling democratic country. Among those with connections to Putin was Michael, Caputo a longtime gop operative who worked in Russia for assorted officials oligarchs throughout the nineteen nineties. In two thousand Seventeen Caputo tried to scrub information about these endeavors from the Internet. After. Leaving Russia Caputo returned to the United States to work at a Florida public relations firm with stone. In. Twenty fifteen caputo like stone became one of trump's campaign advisers. He was yeah. Another longtime trump contact with decades long ties to shady Russian businessman involved in the presidential race. In February two thousand trump withdrew from his attempt to become the Reform Party candidate after campaigning as a moderate. The nomination instead went to variant bigot Pat Buchanan who ended up being an enthusiastic endorser of trump's Zena phobic twenty, sixteen campaign. In two thousand trump's campaign seemed like a harmless distraction in an era when presidential candidates debated questions like how do we spend the enormous government surplus in her booming economy? In the biggest political crisis was Bill Clinton's philandering. In, the media reality TV continued to thrive moving from daytime and cable networks into primetime and forming a new genre in the summer of two thousand with the hit series survivor. Survivor became the template for both the construct ethos of reality TV over the next decade. Strangers trapped together in an unfamiliar setting backstab one another in front of the cameras with one player dismissed in a humiliating weekly ceremony until only the winner remained. Mark Burnett the Creator of survivor is one of the most successful television producers of the modern era. He was never able to realize his dream projects. Burnett wanted to create a reality TV show featuring Vladimir Putin. That would portray the authoritarian leader to Americans in a flattering light. Burnett's fascination with Putin goes back to at least two thousand one when he tried to launch a series called destination Mir and confirmed to the New York Times that Putin was involved in the project. For the next decade and a half he did not stray from the skull. In Twenty fifteen, the Hollywood reporter wrote. Seeing Russia through its controversial presidency is has Burnett. So excited. He has already reached out to Putin sixty to a noted outdoorsman and former KGB officer. He says, he emphasized his show would be devoid of armies and politics rather it would focus on the humans, the nature, the animals of the nation. When it is suggested, the Russian leader probably would ignore such a request. Burnett recently wrapped filming Ben Hur remake in Rome cracks a smile. How do you know that I would think I could probably get through to most people. So if he did get through what was the reaction? Response Burnett coyly no comment. Burnett never got his reality show about Putin off the ground. But he did succeed in increasing the Russian leader's domination over the United States. In Two thousand and four Burnett launched the project that did more to rehabilitate and popularized. Donald. Trump than. Anything. The apprentice the popular reality TV series presenting trump as a successful in likable businessman. Introducing Donald Junior Ivanka to every day Americans. In 2017. Burnett was hired to produce trump's inauguration as president, which is being investigated as a mass money-laundering espionage scheme featuring a variety of Russian mobsters, spies, oligarchs. There's no suggestion that Burnett was involved in illicit activity in connection with the inauguration. In the end Burnett got his Putin reality. TV. Series after all. We just mistook it for an election. Thank you for listening to this clip provided to you by Macmillan audio to hear more look for this title wherever audio books are sold. Known. I'm Sarah Cancer. The author of the bestselling books view for five or country and hiding in plain sight. I'm Andrea Talita a journalist and filmmaker and the writer and producer of the journalistic thriller Mr Jones, and this is gasoline nation a podcast covering corruption in the trump administration and rising autocracy around the world I have an announcement. I just WanNa say this really quickly. Okay. All right we're about to go deep and dark on this episode. So if you want to blind yourself with the lights and find some glorious light than go to gasoline nation pod. And from the homepage, go find these survival guide the Gasoline Nation Twenty twenty survival guide and choose something there to help and support, and you will feel a million times better after listening to this episode. So this episode is going to be Hell, and then after you're done listening to it, go find your heaven on gas at nation pod Dot Com the gasoline nation twenty. Twenty Survival Guide Sarah. And I are launching a new contest which we mentioned last week's twenty twenty survival guide special where if you're doing something to refuse complacency to refuse to rely on the polls because all these polls we see coming out do not take into account massive Republican? Driven voter disenfranchisement remember stealing the vote is a long held Republican strategy to come to power and consolidate power so if you're refusing to. Binge Watch the decline of our democracy and you're rolling up your sleeves and you're turning your despair into hope and you're getting to work tell us about it tweet at gasoline nation on twitter and tell us how you're working hard to save our democracy because it's on us. No one is coming to us and we're GonNa do this together so whether you're doing something now already or you need. To find a new project, go to Gasoline Nation two thousand twenty survival guide tweet at gas nation, and I'll re tweet it and from the ones we get from the tweets we get. We're going to select three winners to come on gasoline nation in the New Year and talk about how we're going to trump proof and Putin prove our democracy because we're all in this for the long haul. Whatever happens November third we still have years and years of fight left and to finally defeat the neo confederates and the madman in the Kremlin that's helping them and it's it's not going to be solved in one election cycle. We all need to hunker down and fight like hell. All right continue. Yes exactly and that no, we don't intend for this episode to be dark and depressing. We're in the vein of my fellow Missourian Harry Truman who said I never gave anyone hal I told the truth and they thought it was hell and so that's where we are so that no, you may remember that in the before time in the long long ago there was a movie called office space whose main character declared every day was worse than the day before and so therefore. Every day is the worst day of his life. In retrospect it is amazing that anyone would make the statement and the Golden Age of nineteen, ninety nine. But that description certainly fits for twenty twenty. This is yet another one of those weeks where idiot pundits and useless politicians who blew off our warnings of fascism or worse yet threatened us for making them woke up yet again to. The realities of life in an autocratic mafia state. But the worst thing about that life in the US is not trump's enablers as bad as they are, and if you want details how bad they are listened to last week's episode called the Good Germans. The worst thing is what these people are doing to the most vulnerable people in America and I will now turn the mic over to. Okay so we are going to. Break down some of the latest in one of the darkest chapters of us. History unfolding right now in real time, and that is, of course, the human rights crisis deliberately created on the border with maximum cruelty by the trump crime family and Stephen Miller? Steve Bannon and all the good Germans that help them do this and profited from it in the process right genocide makes. Those committing the genocide, a lot of money, and that's what we see playing out now on the border in our name with our US tax dollars So we have starting out a whistleblower complaint yet another whistleblower complaints This time it is from an ice detention center where there is a very serious allegation that women were being forced to undertake hysterectomies out of an ice detention. When I met all these women who had surgeries I thought this was like experimental concentration camp and we'll linked the article. So you can read it I'm also going to read now from a thread talking about why this is deeply troubling and why this is essentially genocide is being carried out. This is a threat on twitter from the Great Group, bent the ARC, a Jewish Action Group that works for progressive causes in the US, and this is how they break down the extremely startling history historical context of these forced hysterectomies. Forced sterilization is genocide isis performing masks hysterectomies on immigrant women. Ice is committing genocide. It is part of a long history of eugenics and assaults on reproductive freedom. In the United States, a system that directly inspired the Nazi regime. In the Nineteen Thirties, Hitler and the Nazis were directly inspired by Jim Crow laws in the United. States. They sent researchers to study how the US subjugated black people and inform how they'd humanized Jews, Roma and other communities. In the nineteen twenty seven case buck versus bell the Supreme Court upheld a Virginia Statute that enabled the state to sterilize people with mental illness. This decision resulted in seventy thousand sterilizations of people deemed quote and fit to reproduce in the nineteen seventies. The US government forcibly sterilized as many as seventy thousand native women through the Indian Health Service a trauma deeply impacting indigenous health an estimated twenty five percent of native women of childbearing age were sterilized by nineteen, seventy six. Forced sterilization policies directly targeted communities of color and people with disabilities including Puerto Rican Women Latinas in California prisons, Black Women, native women, and so many more. Each instance was violent and genocidal. The film no Moss. Bibi's tells the story of how Mexican and Mexican American women in Los Angeles were coerced into involuntary sterilizations. One woman recalls thinking they must have thought this one has so many kids will just so her up. These shameful practices continued in the two thousand ten's doctors under contract with the California. Department of Corrections and rehabilitation sterilized nearly one hundred and fifty female inmates from two thousand, six to twenty ten incarcerated folks. Reproductive rights are under attack. In nineteen seventy-three to black sisters many and Marie Ralph were secretly sterilized at a federally funded agency under the premise of getting birth control shots. Their lawsuit drew national attention to how poor black women are being targeted by sterilization. Between the nineteen thirties in the nineteen seventies nearly one third of in Puerto Rico were sterilized as part of a mass eugenics camping this history continues to affect Puerto. Rican, women and their communities to this day. Forced. Sterilization is genocide. It's also been US policy for generations targeting black and indigenous women, Puerto Ricans, and Latinas in. La. Incarcerated people and people with disabilities now isis performing mass hysterectomies. We've seen this before we must rise up. That's just the latest. Here's some more that she's coming out. This is from politico. A federal appeals court has effectively greenlighted the trump administration's plan to expel more than three hundred, thousand undocumented immigrants from El, salvador, Nicaragua and Sudan from the US by ending the temporary protected status, they have enjoyed for as long as two decades in a two to one ruling the ninth. Circuit Court says evidence was lacking that trump's offensive and disparaging comments about immigrants impacted. Decisions yes this is real. It's not the onion. Literally trump's racist comments like saying why allow immigrants in from quote whole countries dot com remember his long publicly documented history of racism was on trial here and a two to one ruling to judges one appointed by war criminal, George W Bush otherwise known as posh trump and the other one appointed by sloppy trump outnumbered and Obama appointee whose legal. In the Obama judge on this court in this decision, her statement was essentially banging her head against the desk. So this is more from politico judge Morgan Kristen also said those challenging the government's action presented ample evidence that trump's racial bias infected the decisions she noted not only trump's shithole countries. Comment claims that Haitians with this status all have AIDS and his descriptions of Mexican and Central American immigrants as criminals and snakes the. Bush and trump judges essentially said, no racism nothing to see here. So this is why elections matter everybody over not just voting for Biden we're not just boating bar senator revolting our judges we want a Biden Supreme Court because our country our democracy will not survive a trump supreme court. We will be living with the trump crime family and the Bush crime family for a generation because of the judges they've packed onto the court. Do you WanNa comment I've got so much more here. I. Mean I'm just so angry because these policies were not hidden they were all announced in advance. They were what trump ran on in his campaign. You could see in his campaign putting Jeff Sessions Stephen Miller, and then getting Stephen Miller through David. Horowitz. You're getting some of the worst racists in white supremacists in. America. To devise his immigration policy, you then get concentration camps bill at the border and instead of impeaching him on these camps stopping these cans, you get people like Pelosi yelling at Alexandria. Cossio Cortez and others for simply calling them concentration camps you get people in the media refusing to call them white supremacists refusing to call them racists refusing to advocate on behalf of the people who are trapped in those camps by simply documenting what's happening. You know initially, there was outcry in June of twenty eighteen when the horrific details of these camps and especially the separation policy of children from their parents came to light. There is quite a bit of coverage and there were there was a mass protest to try to stop this everyone seems to forget that. These protests happened and then they let it fade away. They didn't treat it as a crime against humanity. This is serious. This is something that goes against the Geneva Conventions. This is something that should bite and get into office. We need a Nurenberg style trial of you know the perpetrators of these severe crimes and as Andrea just commented, this is not new to America. This is not beyond the realm of imagination. This is in fact our history and so when you look at people who are drawing on one hand from foreign oppression from the Nazi movement which we know. That trump in bannon and others admire from Putin in his horrible policies against migrants against minorities in Russia. But also especially drawing from the American experience from what they did to black Americans. Native Americans I was thinking of Fannie Lou Hamer the civil rights activists also forcibly sterilized in nineteen sixty one. Yes. Of course you should assume that they would go down that path again and they're also surrounded by a freak show of aspiring Mandalay's of people like Epstein who wanted to impregnate his rape victims and create a super race from his sperm like that is the kind of. person that trump and his crew surround himself with like these deranged homicidal just disgusting ambitions were they view they have a ranked hierarchy of human beings arranged by race ethnicity and a view, some of them as objects to experiment on in addition to just sadistically abusing them. We knew all that in advance and officials did not stop at Congress did not stop it and then they instantly forgive people who helped either deny or gloss over it. People like Kellyanne Conway when she resigned, there needs to be accountability. There needs to be trials for crimes against humanity gone. Yeah, I absolutely agree we need a Nuremberg trial in order to weed out all the people that are carrying out this genocide especially those who are profiting like John Kelly from that rowing system of concentration camps on the border deliberately created for genocidal means. And remember that Trust Fund Kid Anderson Cooper, the son of a vanderbilt had the audacity to ask a Oh see are you calling trump a racist? Right, that's what we're up folks sats stream media. It's one of the most famous journalists in America and most Americans get their information from TV news from Cable News hosts like Vanderbilt, child Anderson, Cooper. Okay. So back to this long history of American genocide and authoritarianism that helped inspire the Nazis. And I'm talking about like this history and folding in real time. So from CNN a US congressman released internal agency documents showing unaccompanied minors in government custody made more than four thousand, five, hundred complaints of sexual abuse from two thousand, fourteen, two, thousand, eighteen in two, thousand, Nineteen Guatemalan father is suing to nonprofits that house migrant children for the US government alleging his ten year old son was forced to take psychotropic drugs and sexually assaulted while in custody. From the AP on family separations, a two year old boy locked in detention wants to be held all the time he's been separated from his parents a few girls who've also been separated from the parents ages ten to fifteen. Say they've been doing their best to feed and soothe the clingy toddler who was handed to them by the? According to New York public defender Scott Heckscher here's video of a seventeen month old baby returned to her mother, an asylum seeker from Doris they were separated caged by ice for months. So we're gonNA play that clip. So you understand that this is the sound of US tax payer dollars carrying out genocide. From the independent, just the other day it was reported authorities say around eight, thousand, eight, hundred children have been deported from the United States along the Mexican border. Thanks to a new pandemic related measure that functionally strip the rights of those seeking asylum. Sarah you mentioned something about that number eight, thousand, eight, hundred. This is an official number from the trump regime. Is there any significant that number oh? Yeah. Well, this is a pattern that has been going on with the trump administration and these migrant families in terms of how they present information to the media. Since two thousand eighteen back. Then I believe is the AP reported that fourteen hundred and eighty eight children were being deported that is a number that is used by neo-nazis both fourteen and eighty, and then of course combined. Now again, you see the. weirdly specific number. It was later proven to not be the actual number. It was just what the the media as a sick little in joke. You're now seeing it again with eight hundred being the number that's released on reality. It's it's above nine thousand they do this because they find it amusing. They also do this so that they can have these kind of like, what are you talking about? You're so paranoid, you think these numbers mean something like we're Nazis it's the same thing with their little hand gestures that you saw from one of the Neo Nazis that was sitting at Kavanagh's hearing. They are neo Nazis like they are carrying out Neo Nazi policies and you know putting forth neo. Nazi plans in using Neo Nazi rhetoric, and that is how we know they are a neo Nazis. So I think that to interpret the USA these kind of numbers, these symbolic actions as you know, furthering a neo, Nazi agenda kind of rubbing in people's faces is the correct way to view it. It's the sensible way to view it and not as they like to claim the paranoid way to view it and eighty eight is a white supremacist numerical code for High Hitler and that from according ad L. Group fighting hate for good eighty-eight is secret code and all these hate groups that have had to. Function underground for so long they depend on this symbolism so they can recognize each other and now they've been empowered by the Nazi and chief in the White House and they're all out in the open and like Sarah said there gleefully doing this on the open as a sick inside joke with each other. Yeah. Just to clarify and give everyone a concrete example google. In case they find this unfathomable. Here's an article from. CBS News from September nineteenth two, thousand, eighteen feds say they lost track of fourteen, hundred, Eighty, eight migrant children and then when you go and read the article, it is not actually a that number that. Is the number that health and Human Services gave to the Senate and gave to the media, and then later says it's fourteen, hundred and seventy-five like this is their idea of a little funny in joke to mock the torture and abuse of migrant families and let me just read that number Sarah Fourteen eighty eight right that's the number they officially gave Congress the Congress and they gave it to outlets like CBS another mainstream outlets the Department of Homeland Security, which needs to be Nuremberg hardcore at if we get our country back. So the Department of Homeland Security gave Congress the number fourteen eighty as the number of migrants that were. Separated or moved or what? Well in this case, health and Human Services they say recently told Senate staffers that case managers could not find the fourteen, hundred, eighty, eight children after they made follow up calls to check on their safety from April through June. Later in the article, they change it to fourteen, seventy five and so okay. So here is from ad L. That same organization working to fight hate groups. And point out that fourteen eighty eight is a combination of two popular white supremacist symbols. The first symbol is fourteen, which is shorthand for the fourteen words slogan. We must secure the existence of our people at our future for white children. The second is eighty eight which stands for high Hitler h being the Eighth Letter of the alphabet together, the numbers form a general endorsement of white supremacy and it's beliefs as such. They are ubiquitous within the white supremacist movement as graffiti in Graphic Santa. TWOS even screen names and email addresses such as Aaron Prince Fourteen Eighty, eight at hate dot net pretty sure that's involved as email address some white supremacists even price racist merchandise such as t shirts or compact discs. These guys are such losers or listening compact discs for fourteen dollars eighty eight cents. The symbol is most commonly written as fourteen, eighty, eight or fourteen slash eighty-eight but barriers such as fourteen, Dash Eight or eight fourteen are also common and so trump's regime gave the number fourteen eighty. Numbering. Immigrants. Fourteen eighty eight. So they're doing this intentionally this is genocide being carried out on the border and again a US court. Too judges. One appointed by trump one appointed by Bush both said, no, this isn't racial. There's no racism that's driving this immigration policy they're doing out in the open and they're they're gleefully doing it so I'm going to end off this. Overview of kids in cages with psychology today pointing out, it doesn't matter how well provisioned young children are in shelters. We have long known not to separate young children from loving caregivers because you will deny them the exact forces that make them human accordingly. In the last days, we've received critical messages are recent policy of separating children from their parents at the border from the American Psychological Association the National Association of School Psychologists Society for Research on child development others moral surely follow by separating so many children from their parents we are literally changing the course of humanity. Yet, no, it's the worst thing that they've done and that's saying a lot when it comes to this administration and I think one of the things that's finally kind of set in for white people in America and lay of the corona virus on and trump's purposeful handling of it so that it kills as many Americans as possible which we told you in March was intentional that it was not negligence. It was not incompetence it was malice. It was a move toward mass death and embrace of mass death. They have finally realized that they too are disposable that they too may end up treated in the way that they have been treating. These migrant families at the border and that the lack of action against these government agencies against these criminals against this incredible assault of basic human rights. When you don't act against it builds and builds, and you know that old a dodge of you know I they came for so and so but I was not them I mean everyone has heard that from the nazi-era watching it play out in America right now you know I they came for the migrants, but I was not a migrant so I did not speak out in you know they they are coming for you and I mean that very literally they've announced that they are coming for you. Let me just ended on this because? This is from June twenty, twenty this year. and. This is from the Southern Poverty Law Center family separation policy continues two years after trump administration claims that ended. This is all still going on. It's horrendous. It's sweeping lives are being destroyed with our tax dollars remember that. So I want to also ground everybody in this age of confusion in the fact that when when you hear Cunanan right this whole crazy conspiracy theory that is growing momentum that's trying to say that trump is saving the world from an international pedophile ring created by Satanist. That's all projection when you hear Q. and on the real child trafficking crisis, the real actual conspiracy of genocide is being carried out by trump himself deliberately deliberately. So understand that Cunanan is a defensive mechanism whether trump and his supporters including his supporters in the in the Kremlin created it or not. The purpose it's now serving is to deflect from the very real crisis of how children's lives are deliberately being destroyed on the border. So every time you hear, Cunanan, flip it in your head to children in cages, kids in cages, kids in cages. These kids are still in cages, and this is being done in our name in our tax dollars, and if we ever get our democracy back for generations to come, this is going to be considered one of the darkest periods in our nation's history. Yes. Absolutely in well said. on that no Let's turn to the latest from Kremlin lackey convicted felon and time trump manager. Roger. Stone who is now calling for a quote insurrection if trump loses by which he means if trump fails to steal the election and faces some sort of legal and political repercussions, stone is calling for federal marshals seized ballots. Called for trump to arrest the Clintons Harry Reid and other Democrats notably, this is the same threat that stone made in two thousand sixteen when he promised a bloodbath if trump loses and in the years between making those two threats, Roger Stone has threatened to murder a judge who then responded by lowering his sentence and also did not charge him for threatening her murder the reason that stone. Continues to make these threats because people in power. Let him get away with it he is a, he has a family friend of many elites including many journalists like Maggie, Haberman at the New York Times stone was put on TV as a CNN political commentator in recent years that is after he promised a bloodbath in twenty sixteen in a after being indicted, he is still treated as event. So yet again, we see ya CNN backing a violent white supremacist anti government psychopath. This band of criminal elites in enablers surrounding trump is extremely similar to the ones that surrounded trafficker Jeffrey Epstein who is celebrated by a New York and DC elite crowd after being convicted for raping children. Many of the people are literally involved in both cases and glossing over their crimes. This is A. Sick culture rotted from within, and it now holds the executive branch, and again in terms of the preemptive narrative inversion that we see with John where they are trying to direct people who are genuinely concerned about child welfare concerned about injustice into a pro-trump movement. That is another way that they're doing that and stone himself actually was one of the pioneers of the Q. On. Precursor of. Pizza Gay. Through, yes. All of this is projection. All of this is. misdirection in all of this is disgusting I have things to add about stones little wannabe, protege, Michael Caputo, but do you have any comments on the will be insurrection? Yeah I mean Caputo this Kremlin lackey. This whole trump crime family there's a reason why they're all united is because there's money to be made in breaking up the US and selling him. These guys are going to get their own little fiefdoms I. Mean it's basically think about what Putin has said the fall of the Soviet Union was one of the great tragedies of the twentieth century he he's brought back stolen. So under Putin, Stalin has been glorified as his great hero and Stalin who murdered some of the best and brightest of of Russia never mind all of the captive colonies like Ukraine and other countries that suffered under. Stalinism. So this is all being deliberately done because what you had with the fall of the Soviet Union. You had all these Westerners go over there to try to profit in the ashes and try to bring in capitalism and make money in building. Up The new Russia or the twentieth century this new great dawn there are promising everyone, and so Putin's basically helping his friends like the trump crime family and caputo and others do the same to the US drive us apart weaken us from within export our weaknesses, weaponize our weaknesses against US create all these confusion campaigns like Hyun and on an ad or early drive those portfolios like Cunanan Pizza Acerra mentioned to really create all this confusion. So we can't art offenses become so overwhelmed that we can't even tell what's true anymore. So stay grounded in the truth because the truth is your greatest protection and the truth is we have a Republican Party that's pro fascism that is ebeling and abetting the. Trump crime family that is being propped up an OS brought to power with the help of the mass murdering xenophobic regime of the Kremlin and their end goal is to further divide and conquer our country and weaken US deeper from within. So we finally break apart that's it and they're going to cash in on the spoils. People need to absolutely understand this because this is a different situation than you traditionally would see in a fascist state I mean first of all, I'm fine with people calling trump fascists calling the trump administration fascists because they're using fascist tactics I think it's also a word that people tend to know more than they know authoritarianism socratic what I don't want to hear as we. are a nation of laws or you know other such horse, shit you know this is an aspiring dictatorship, but it is different than most dictatorships throughout history most dictatorships have as their goal the desire to keep the state intact to embody the state through the ruler, and then to expand the state, they have imperialist ambitions. That is not the case with trump trump wants the country to collapse. They want the country to break down into parts they WANNA strip those parts for resources and money parse them out to their little lackeys. Then that's the end basically you know this is partly Putin. This is as Andrea said Putin wants his revenge for the collapse of the Soviet Union which are now all. Those republics became independent states but this is mostly just disaster capitalism. This is oligarchs and plutocrats uniting to take power the United States. This is one of the reasons that the secessionist movements that we're seeing with California with taxes are incredibly dangerous. They are not going to end well for you and we may devote an entire episode explaining this to you. You are not going to be in some sort of democratic paradise of California is an independent state. You are going to be at the mercy of these exact same transnational crime operators who have joined with Silicon Valley people the worst. Of all Californians and will basically just drain your country, your new country California of resources further on it is extremely important that the United States stay together and I think it's also important that people examine not just the history of authoritarian rule you know worldwide but look at colonialism look at the role of empire. Look what white European settlers did you native Americans look what they did to Africans because that is basically how this crime coal. This Transnational Krankl sees the population utterly disposable. We can be killed off with corona virus we could be put in camps maybe and sterilized we may be. Joining the migrants to whom that is done. You know our freedom, our rights, it is all utterly worthless to them. You can't make deals with them. They will break deals just like US settlers broke their deals with native Americans and they want the collapse they want riots bloodshed, economic collapse, their openly doing it. You're kind of seeing this. In the UK that's its own story. So you need to understand in those terms that this isn't even a typical dictatorship. This is not like Hitler wanting to conquer Europe this is not like Stalin wanting to stand his empires. Soviet Empire this is a destruction, a purposeful destruction of the United States from within by a Kremlin asset and a crime syndicate, that is what this and. Even if California said to hell with all this, we don't WanNa be held hostage by Mitch McConnell and the Senate we're going to have an emergency referendum for independence and become you know our own republic. So even if California broke away California being one of the largest economies in the world, they're going to chip away at you until California breaks up into smaller republics that has already Ideas of that being spread, look it up, look up the movement, even break apart California into its own little separate states. So greed is never satisfied. That's why it's greed. That's what makes it greed so were our greatest enemy is whether it's Putin trump is ultimately greed were at war with and greed is never satisfied. So there is no compromise with this beast. The beast just wants to devour all of us and it will never stop until it gets bad until nothing is left Yep in all of these issues, these domestic crises of the. Corona, virus of the domestic economy are tied to trump's dealings with the Kremlin with the Russian Mafia. With these actors, you know who euphemistically call themselves consultants, and then as I mentioned, these went to the former Soviet Union in the nineteen nineties to make bank have no loyalty to America are completely fine with its dissolution, and of course, one of those people is is Michael Caputo and in the beginning of this show, I played an excerpt of the audiobook version of hiding in plain sight my new book, which has a little section about Caputo. To review briefly, he has yet another Kremlin lackey who worked for Putin as an image consultant, as well as for assorted Russian oligarchs one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety s before reuniting with his hero Roger Stone in the two thousands. Caputo has long been Roger Stone's little lapdog. He was briefly a campaign manager of Donald Trump in two thousand fifteen before trump dumped him for more accomplished criminals like Paul Manafort Michael. Caputo in the meantime started threatening a bunch of journalists in just random people on twitter. I was one of them. He went on a tirade against me. That was by turns tedious obnoxious. Honestly really perverted at one point. He said he wanted to put me in his pocket like a fidget spinner computer was then investigated. During the muller pro although like many aspects of the molar probe, this investigation stopped without a full explanation the Muller Report Describes Caputo meeting with a Russian who claimed to have dirt on Hillary Clinton pretty much left it at that until Caputo also, by the way on CNN is a coup objective political commentator in the meantime here. And just keeps going and so in twenty twenty now with the probe over and Bill Bar installed as trump's personal journey, caputo joined the federal crime coal that is currently managing the covid nineteen crisis trump appointed him the assistant secretary of Public Affairs at the Department of Health and Human Services which we just mentioned was the department sending out Nazi numbers to. The mainstream press in this role Michael, Caputo has unsurprisingly promoted white supremacists suppressed scientific research about Corona virus that he believes makes trump look bad which is to say he suppresses the truth and among the truth he suppresses is the fact that children can catch corona virus in spread. It caboodle also accused CDC scientists of sedition and quote harboring Armed Insurrectionists, and so we have gone over on the show many many times about how it is the core. Of trump crying coal that are managing the coronavirus crisis, this has been a revolving door administration but certain individuals have been seen as indispensable to it and have remained there for the entirety of the administration's existence and it is important to ask why These individuals are bound either through nepotism. Ivanka jared you see it with bill bar in his children in the administration Devos and her brother the mercenary Eric Prince not officially. But basically, you see it with Stephen Miller and his new white supremacist. Also on the virus team or they are bound through white collar crime, which explains the endurance of Steve Mnuchin and Wilbur Ross, both of whom were installed by corrupt corporate raider, Carl icahn also formerly of this administration and who also all of them, all three of them icon Mnuchin Ross have long standing ties to the trump crime family. This typical autocratic reliance on an inner sanctum of blood relatives and longtime loyalists explained the reemergence of Michael Caputo, who is a long time colleague of trump and stone, and so you may be asking what is the? Goal here, what is the endgame beyond money and Power We've explained some of this it's the dissolution of the country but the way that is done is through genocide it's through passive eugenics. It's through mainstreaming mask death. Now, two hundred, thousand dead Americans now so that they can cause more mass death later and so on this snow, it's worth observing that the attacks that Michael Pompeo made recently against the International Criminal Court on behalf of not only US war criminals but his taskmaster Benjamin Netanyahu, we just visited Israel the reason he made those. Is because. If trump is reinstalled for a second term Middle East war and the genocide Palestinians is going to be a key goal and he does not want the icy sea getting in the way. He also does not want the icy investigating things as we said, like the abuses in us, concentration camps and the horrific handling of the covid nineteen. Pandemic and so yeah, this is the nightmare come. True. This is what we have been warning you about the US under trump is a fledgling neo Nazi state. We told you many times that unless an intervention was made, this is going to be the outcome but apparently are officials were okay with letting people get sick and die so that you could learn that the hard way and. Done. You Talk. I. Think we're both done done but. Sorry. No, we've got a long way to go. We've got a long way to go this election. They desperately need to steal this one. As we all know their it's for them. It's not just control of our country. It's not all the billions they can make offer continue to make off our country, its control over the world with the US broken apart and firmly under autocratic. Control what happens to Canada what happens to the EU? What happens to Japan and South Korea and so forth greed keeps going Greaves steamrolls ahead and so if America finally falls like really we're not gonNA survive four more years of trump. 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Yup Absolutely, and I want to emphasize the importance of the Senate races here because we know that if Biden. Defeats trump that trump is not going to concede we know that there's going to be violence. We know there's going to be a protracted legal battle and we know the reason for this happening is because trump needs to hold onto executive power in order to not face prosecution in order for all of his partners do not face prosecution in order for things like the sanctions policy that Russia has that. So beneficial to them this this axis of autocrats, this coalition of corruption they need that to remain in place that is something that is particular to this crime coal and we know how the crime coal. Apparatus, has spread into the GOP. It spread through dark money spread through complicity but they also view these Republicans including these senators and many house representatives as well as disposable, and if you want proof of that, go look at Herman Canes Twitter Account where he's tweeting from beyond the grave that the disease that killed him the krona virus is a hoax. I, mean that's what they do to Republicans in the end. That's what they do to the people who go and like Herman Cane did appear at a trump rally say how? Great trump is get sick from being at trump rally and die, and then have you know their image and their own voice, their persona used by them. They view all of these guys as disposable and I don't think that their concentration is so much on the Senate and the House is very much centered on the executive branch on the terrible plans they have for the second term with that executive branch, which will include show trials, which will likely include a war in the Middle East and also allowing Putin to carry out his own. Territorial wars in in Ukraine possibly Moldova other places. Anyway that's why I think looking at these a lower races, the house in the Senate also judges that's a good strategy. It's harder for them to control. All of that is once We have a personality coal with trump he requires subservience to it. He requires a full attention to other people like Mitch McConnell are looking at the Senate races or a closely I'm sure they have plans you should listen to our interview with Jenny cone about election hacking through. Machines. 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The Past, Present, and Future of Property Management Education

JuvoHub - Property Management Podcast

29:00 min | Last month

The Past, Present, and Future of Property Management Education

"Ron welcome to episode twenty nine of jubilee hobby. This is our show that it's in podcast and in youtube so grateful for you to be with us again today and by the time. The show is aired. It'll be about the one year anniversary of the jubilee hub website and the show in general. So thank you so much for all of you for your support today. I thought it would be really really really fun to just interview the mark. How no extra guests today. He's been fantastic. Co host show for many many months and has helped take the show to another level so mark. Welcome a friend. Good to see you. Thanks buddy. it's good to be here. Always always have fun with you so i. i'm. I'm looking forward to any kind of conversation you and i can have together. Yeah so especially for audience interviewing you would be would be especially pinnacle for those who are new to the industry and for those who are even who have been an industry for while who are looking to be in some sort of a training raw. So let's just start with like how did you get into the industry and specifically like how did you wind up in in training type roles within the industry. You know it's funny. I have been having these conversations with other people. As i have what i call you know. I'm aging in our industry. I grow a grew up here. I am finding that people are asking me that question a lot you know. How did you transition from one to the next store to i as you know. That's where i met. You went onto the vendor side so my journey has been an interesting one and one that i have loved for twenty something years now but when i thought about this industry and i know i'm gonna date myself when i say a so. I apologize for young people listening There was a thing called a newspaper that we used to have to read where we go to help wanted ads right but i found this industry because i was living in my first apartment when i was younger and i remember thinking the guide that showed us around and least two us was so cool and i had never really experienced someone with such a fun personality that could be themselves in a professional setting and do what they were doing and i thought gosh you know i do that. I'm a fun guy. And so i thought let me look into that. What the time back way back. Then you had to have their all. The ad said two years experience required. And i remembered beating my head up against the wall thinking. Well how do you get the experience of higher you right so i would go to. The help wanted ads until i finally had a mutual friend that introduced me to someone in the industry and they said you need to go to a head hunter and so i did that and they found me a company that was willing to take on a newbie and i fell in love with the industry what i was doing and i think that's one of the most important things Ed advice that i would give to anyone breaking into this industry is this. You will know if you love what you're doing within the first i would say three to six months right and if you don't truly love it with all of your heart and soul than go find you something that you do love because this industry needs dedication it needs mob and nurture were. It's like you said earlier. It's a people business. And i felt like i kinda possessed all those things i cared about people. Maybe sometimes too much I broke all the housing rules growing up in the industry. Because i care too much about people. Listen to every sob story. And i learned the hard way but i learned you know and when i spent so much time out on side i worked for the worthing companies and at that time you know the worthing companies they were developing some of the most exclusive types of properties product in the experience like they were definitely ahead of their time and so we didn't have the option to be lazy or have mediocre work right. The expectation was to do great things for our residents and it was just a belief that i quickly saw and absorbed and said you know what i want to do. Great things in this industry. And i knew that to move up. I needed to pay attention. I needed to show up. I needed to learn everything i could i needed to do. The work and and i did. And i spent Many years out on site working my way up and really thoroughly enjoyed the onsite experience. Now mind you onsite experiences a little different today. I know that are world has changed. And i you might. You might hear me reference to the good days the fun times. We had back out on side when we got to you know. I don't wanna say goof off. But i mean it wasn't as stressful as it is today right like asset managers and owners are are on the properties now like i never even knew who are owners. Were for most of the time but I then found a passion from my then leader That was in that was a training director. And she said i want you to come and be my assistant. You have the personality. And what's funny. Is i still say this even today. Some of the leadership there said you know mark. We can train people for these skills. We can't train for the will. And i say that to a lot of my clients like there's a huge difference in will and skill and i use my hands to kind of compare them because i always say i can train for the skill but if your employees are unwilling to do the work or unwilling to be the best. I don't know that. I can make them be that for you right. They have to come with that sort of already in them. And i remembered my then ball said you know you have the willingness to do what it takes and i got into training and i think you know the training factor when i met up with you guys. We were probably. Maybe you're second or third clients. Do you remember. Yeah yeah that sounds about right. Okay yeah i felt like that's what michelle had told us. And so. I just found training so fascinating. That sort of gave me a whole new introduction to online learning. And then you know as you know. I spent many years in the training department but Took my my dad on the vendor side. And that's where you and i got to work more closely together but know i think s- people ask me like when i look at your resume. You've pretty much stayed strong. Re true to that. Sort of training vein. I did so marketing. I'm for while advertising and marketing but it was kind of a relationship with training. But there's something about when. I look at the young people or people in our industry and i think. I hope that you will love this industry as much as i. Have you know that you will find your path and it become a really great career because it changes people's lives and i think about some of the people that i have brought into the industry even by accident friends that were in other fields or other industries that needed work and i would say. Why don't you try this. Just see what you think and if you hate it then no no worries but Common give it a chance. And i have so many friends that have stuck with it and made really great careers for themselves so i look at all of that and i think you know what it was because of the training. That was sort of that. That needle kind of pushed me and helps me push others so kind of full circle. That's where we are today with with who i am. Yeah and it's awesome a think watching that journey being part of it which has been an awesome privilege getting to work with you coach training with you being on sessions together. Now we're doing this show together yob. What an amazing journey that you've had and from you know from my perspective If i can give you a testimonial it is a awesome to see that level of commitment to the industry that is driven by your passion for people and for training. you're so well respected in our industry Every guest that we've had in the show we get chatting before and after just an amazing conversation. That's that's all. I know about you in an attribute that That aura. I guess so to speak in in. Just just fantastic and so it's like when you were mentioning a minute ago like how the industry has changed so much. It is different world for young people coming into property management and it's different for us in chaos. We're not old mark burnett old right. It is a little different for us. We've been around the block a couple of years but you think that even with all the changes night. It's we're in a a new chapter of the industry when you think of things like advocacy that the apartment associations are so deeply involved in the amount of leadership programs that are available for those who've just come out of college and you think ira rooms thirty for thirty and then you think of all the Opportunities the industry is displaying to really embrace social issues. So maybe those those bigger things like what we're dealing with in seeing weren't as prevalent twenty years ago but here we are today so as you've like watched your career mold where you are right now. Do you feel like that that that we are in a new chapter and for those who are in the industry now. Are those coming in that. There is a lot to be excited about. Oh gosh And look i think every everything about life is is a chapter. It's it's what you make of it no matter what what happens professionally or personally. Life's gonna change you right and so with that. Change we change. we learn we grow. We accept we embrace and we certainly have done that. Training has has become a so technical. Now and i love it i was not i would never have called myself a technical person years ago. But it's fascinating what we can do with technology and how it does reach more of the masses today. The younger generations the the the micro learning that we're doing now know before you know back in our day. It was a three hour or four hour. Fairhousing class or compliance classes that were mandatory in now people are embracing more sort of a little small bite size segments of training and that's acceptable. But yeah i mean. I think it it certainly has. It's changed me. I've loved it. Because i'm not afraid of change. It is something that. I embraced longtime ago. That life will change you. Our industry will change. We have to change. So i think that this industry i've watched the changes that have happened in. Its been fascinating but you know now in this age were in today. It's like you said twenty years ago we might not of. We might not have had our is so much on inclusion and diversity in the the topics that are happening in our world and society today So i am fascinated. I'm fascinated to see what the younger generations will come up with. It fascinates me to that they are so willing to be nimble and pivot in creative. And i will be curious to see where our industry is even ten years from. Now you know because these young people are making huge waves in their changing things. And i'm not saying young people all of us right. We've all change. We've all had to come up with new solutions and new ideas and to kind of wrap it back into the training. I think it's all about your training if you really think about embracing all of this change in how. How are you learning to use technology. How are you accepting and embracing how people learn. And i say this a lot. When i'm teaching individuals i ask how do you learn you know. Are you a hands on do you. Do you need a recorded session where you can go back and watch it a couple of times. Do you want me to. Is it more audio visual because we all learn very differently and if we're not embracing many multiple ways of creating new training moving in the future we're going to miss out on a people retaining that information because you might learn very differently than i learn and then the next person's gonna learn completely different. So what you retain might be more or less than i'm willing to retain so Training as one of those things that constantly is going to change. And i'm fascinated to see where we are in another ten years from now. Yeah yeah absolutely. You're saying a couple of things that made me think of the the forever a title train. The trainer like we're always when i first heard that title years ago. It took me a minute to be like. Okay what are we. What does that really mean and and i think that means a lot i mean. Of course there's coursework that is train the trainer and how to be a trainer. I think on an individual level. It speaks to your story quite a bit like you and i. We don't do. We have mentors absolutely do have people we get on the phone with and have a conversation with the inspire us and help us with their careers. Absolutely we're we're not underneath a company like leadership advancement program and a lot of companies. Don't have those so as you've watched your career grow in enchaine. Pivot has been any mike go-to resources as an example. You talked about technology. A lot of things have changed. So what would you say about that mark. How have you personally been your own. Frayne the trainer. You've been trading yourself to keep up with things that are changing any thoughts on that. Yeah sure that's a great question. It you constantly have to be looking at the resources that are in front of you. Our industry is filled with them. I go to all of my friends and colleagues and you know. I'm not one that will say i know everything i i know. I don't and so when i don't know something i ask thousand questions. I have the gift of gab or the curse of it. I don't know but i am not afraid to ask questions. Even if it makes me seem you know uneducated about it. I walk away knowing more than i did. So if i want to know something about marketing i go to the marketing experts in our industry and i typically like my young friends. They know i use them. I keep them around. Because they're young and they're they're smarter than me and they know things i don't know and so i will go and i kind of position myself in conversations very deliberately you know. I look at what they do. What kinds of technology are they using. That i don't know about. And then i start asking them questions. We'll tell me about this. What would you say. Works better for you. And and i let them teach me but google is my best friend. Associations are my best friends reading. I love taking topics. I'm looking at a book on my desk here. The five dysfunctions of a team. And i can't wait to start reading this because you know no matter how much training we offered people on site we. We still always have dysfunction right. And so i tried to take other. People's literature may be books or podcasts. i'd pick up advice and i tried to put it into some type of practice For me my my advice would always be never get to a point where you think you know everything and you stop learning If there's a title of a book that you think could be beneficial for you or even for your teams pick it up read. It tried to educate yourself. But when i'm creating classes i i liked to do a lot of research as far as Sending out a questionnaire asking people you know. Tell me How does this make you feel and What's that called when you Survey surveys you know. I survey them. Because honest raw feedback also really gives me great insight that i may have overlooked so in my position being. You know sort of one man show of how creative concepts. When i know i'm going into working with the client. I have to say. I really want survey your employees at one survey either top leadership or people out on site to determine what your specific training needs are because again. Everyone's are different. So i put myself based on what people are struggling with or willie loving at the time. Yeah that's that's fantastic. Great advice to you know there is. There is a ton of resources. And and i get the sense that there is of course some discipline to it. I know for me. It's like i do have like a routine of my go-to resources than i d. I depend on them. I know they're going to help me in intern. They're going to help the customers and people that i get to interact with for for what we do. So that's that's fantastic. So you know we're interviewing you mark and what an amazing journey that you have been and you have how creative concepts and it's how long has that been instituted now is When was your anniversary or is it anniversary coming up. We're going into our third year mean my second year covid so that was very challenging as far as you know learning how to pivot quickly with technology but i loved that even my second year was learning to teach the things that i do love and teach the people that needed it but in a different way. You know it was all of that. Now is about touring with technology. So yeah i'm on my third year. I i feel like last year. Twenty twenty was kind of a blur so i have to kind of remind myself i but i am in my third year. Yeah that is awesome. That is awesome. Yeah bush yeah going through. The challenges of of of kobe unfortunately is put a lot of pressure. New businesses are is already difficult enough without having something as major is that having an impact on it. But you're doing well and so just give us an idea. What are some of the topics that you are working with people on. Oh gosh that's a great question. I actually have some of my favorites. I'd a branding class right now. It's all about you embracing your own professional brand and personal brands. Everything that if you think about it if you truly think about the buying power of a brand a logo a tag it's all about what do people an emotion i'm sorry it's an emotionally attached to your brand and i have tons of emotions attached to touch to certain brands whether they be good or bad and i either tend to stay away from those on that. I don't have a good emotion about an itin to gravitate toward the ones. That i know i love and so i teach a class right now. About what is it that you want your brand to say about you. And it's it's a fun class. It's very interactive. And i i love it. I also last year knows two years ago. We did the what would you do. I don't know if you ever saw any of that. But the what would you do of an interactive. Have you ever seen the show. what would you do. It's about the the what's the guy's name that you go out into a public place in you film people behaving very badly and in. It's what would you do in all of it. Yeah yeah so. I did a play off of it for our industry and we recorded sums some scenarios and situations that happen every day in our offices you know in in our with our residents and with each other and how how we behave what we do today defines tomorrow and that is for our internal customers and external customers so i loved that class but i tend to focus right now really on things like that like the decisions that you make today and when i say decisions. It's also about communication have a wonderful communication class how you're communicating to people. It's either going to be a positive response or a negative response so understanding what type of style of communicator you are. What is it you need in the conversation. And then understanding. What is it that your listeners needs embracing that. It's it's funny. When i started researching and doing more research on just communication styles and what it truly means about. Your personality fascinates me because it's it's pretty It's pretty clear. A lot of people will say. Oh i don't. I don't love taking those types of assessments but the assessments that i'd done are pretty accurate i can say. Yeah that's totally you or that's totally me Based on when we do the assessment about either your personality or communication. So i i'm fascinated with that type of stuff because i think that everything. We do is emotionally charged. There's that emotional intelligence to it. So look we can decide to make really great decisions for our careers and let's face it. Everything we do is is it either positions us in the right way or the wrong way for our our future by that one small mistake that one bad conversation that one moment of weakness of emotional intelligence sort of breakdown that we can't really recover from and so i. I love teaching on that. I love training i love. I love the the idea of diving. Into what makes people tick and teaching nat in the sales cycle to the power of the motions attached to the sale itself. If you think about that too like whenever you're purchasing something that goes back to the how you're emotions are with the brands and then how emotionally connected to the sale you are and if you're not paying attention to your consumer or or even what i call your internal customer your co workers. You might be missing a very valuable piece of your work day but a little bit. Those are some of my favorite topics right now. Yeah yeah and there you go listen to that passion guys man. That's all that's what it's all about. I know you have other classes available to so. That's what our audience is what i wanted. Our audience to hear mark was just. It's been off like i said earlier. Awesome to be with you to be a part of it to watch it to be co workers to be colleagues and now we have the show together and your business is growing well and for anyone and everyone. who's listening. that's what you need. You can't be a trainer without there's gotta be some love. I mean it just has to be. There's gotta be that emotion involved in otherwise you know it's like i think of buehler's day offs and another thing. We'll date ourselves with night. buel- they're so boring. Sometimes we think of some classes that we've been to not yours nan. Not yours awesome awesome stuff. Thank you so much you know. This has been fun that we got to just focus on on you for today's episode episode. Twenty nine remind everyone again. They're interested in in having you work with their company. Come visit them and teach these classes work one on one. How can people connect with you. Absolutely yes so it's how creative concepts dot com which is how will is spelled h. o. w. l. like howl at the moon how and You can reach me at mark at how creative concepts dot com so either way. I am certainly excited. Jonathan to continue our show together My biggest thing is if i haven't said enough is that passion and i love the guests that we have had. They're very passionate about the topics that we have been talking about with them. And i. that's my advice. Find your passion. Every morning you wake up if you're going to stay in the industry if you're going to stay as a working professional find some passion in what it is that you're doing love it because that is what we work. What more than more than half of our lives so. I've always believed that you should love what you do. Find the passion in it and make sure that that you stay passionate about it. So yeah. that's my advice. We go nice quote to to focus on for this particular episode. So yeah man thank you again. Yeah we're gonna have. This show is continuing to grow. We thank everyone for their support. Please share it with your network. This is education to help all property management professionals. And so we're very grateful for your help and support of this show. This has been episode twenty nine. My name is jonathan czar in this episode interviewing friend mark how from how creative concepts. We'll see all take care.

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Barstool Rundown - September 17, 2018

Barstool Rundown

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Barstool Rundown - September 17, 2018

"The right. The rundown is Monday. It's September seventeenth, visit seventy eight. You got it. You know it four days till punk are barstools sports dot com slash punk. What does that take you to the ticket link? I assume barstools force dot com size pop punk. Get Garin up. He's getting a little tension around here because the entire office is trying to take a punk holiday guess is what you'd call it. But we're all gonna. I'm going to be there. I'm performing. I have listened now officially to rise beige brise. I've started the repeat it's along song, so I'm a little gives a bar giving Clancy should let alone now must remind young on thrown always got one. That's always remember, Kevin, Clancy. I'd get that part on joined your trip, it bro. This is my book and business jolt living off. Sickie. He, I don't even think he got through fuck Kevin, Clancy it though. Oh, I didn't know that was an impromptu. I get it now, you know. So I am now listening. It's the only thing so it won't like let you repeat songs. So it's like on Spotify, this no time get done on Spotify, put in the notes. Let's get it on spot. I need that song hugging. Listen to it, non stop, put it. I like I like the punk people maybe tell me one. I'm performing in the show like I feel like there's a lot of things. Yeah, whenever you want your champ. Welcome place. Firearm. It's from your performance right there. Maybe. What is this about ten minutes. They're gonna do this for ten minutes, shy opened the back door us ask this fucking guy. One is up here like a joint. We're filming. When's this going to be done? Ten minutes said they're doing this for ten minutes. All right. Seek code rundown, ten dollars off your first ticket order. If you need to tickets, that's what you do. I'm sure there's pop punk tickets on there. Get it for basically free if he gets on all of your first order in house of blues in Boston, football tickets, baseball tickets, playoff season, coming around the corner, Seekie code rundown Tel dollars off your first order. Okay. NFL recap. Lots of things to talk about. We always kind of let you guys going Iran's your takeaways, whatever the major that's not true when the patriots win, you go on your rant and we sit here, so that's definitely not true. I don't surprises even here. Thank you. You're, you're like, Cincinnati. We've been doing this show for five years. There's no chance you're like, yeah, us let you go on your rants. No, I usually start with your on missing after the patriots. I guarantee you if you first of all, I haven't rains about patriot regular season victories in forever. Just say they look the same. They always do and they lost and they look the same. They always every single year. They lose big generally early in the season sometimes. True too. That's true. When they turn around, come back. Put the question always is, and I listen, I agree with you like anyone who's freaking out. You're you're, you're basically doing the same repeats itself Bill Murray groundhog day. But as we always say on this show, there will be at some point. You said it was last year? I believe not didn't. Yeah, you did. I don't think so. I've only put that. Okay. I think I've been pretty consistent that it's no, he last year you were like, you guys have this Dan. I can't believe you're doing this last year. I think you were like you said? Yeah, because I will because I, I don't think it's going to. But I can always be like, oh, maybe but. And that's the question well, but that's the difference to me. The chiefs last year. It's the chiefs nobody'll, but Jacksonville being like an actual potential contender. I think miles Jerry jacket, whatever his name is. Sue, you got said it. Jack. He says the most important game of his life. Yeah, there is that the Jags were throwing everything out at this was their SuperBowl. Three to five? No. My only question to you into same question every year is like, is there ever going to be a time when it happens where it's like, oh, no. Notice law different. Last one's not as long Ron. Almost. We knew something was differently this year. LeBron was going lose in the east, not net look and you have you have this is fucking North Korea, Tom find a clip that like maybe one second, I was like, oh, maybe. And then he will have that. Will I. That'd be not how this became about North Carolina's. It's an NBA season. It's no, I'm not worked as long as Brady's play before. I'm not. No, I don't think he should. I'm not. You want to talk about people who should came crashing back down to earth. It's New York football jets who are just the same team. They always great that I have still like one day you're a mother fucking. I'm okay. The basket pool Kevin that the in now maybe you know, down the road, the darnold, whatever. It's too early judgy. The way the jets are free. Season, they win that game. If they're going to be the same old jets by the way fireman Ed back, that guy, that guy I did. I did a one eighty on firemen. Now you're in his court. I'm just not as down on him as I once was when you know the full story like he had kind of every reason to walk because he's getting Herath it wasn't. I mean he was like having he was like having fistfights in the bathroom every time he was like, I can't do this anymore. It's like he, I don't. I don't want to say too much, but he was like, I'm gonna end up going to jail for beating the shit out of people who were challenging him to find. So I think he was eventually like I was actually humanitarian like prefer aren't jets fans don't get their face. He was beating people up challenging into fights over like Sanchez versus fucking Tibo. I actually waterside listen, you're during the firemen. Cool, eight. I find if that's fine. If that's story, I still feel it. It's awful. Can mean fumble. I stayed. I stayed right in between though. Like I learned a little more about it. So I understand is coming from, but then I think you should stay forever. But here's a way you were saying you learn to member. It's like you like inside sources, like, I know people don't know Ed and I know lifelong jets fans who have tickets. Dave, I know you said like he can't come back. I think I kid because this is the railing news. This is the life of an outrageous celebrity fan. These guys Marlins man, denouncing the Marlins and then one day run track. These are the stories we live for fucking Detroit, Don and superfan in that in the famous rancid, they don't know if they can come back to the dump. That's. Liberty. The fact that we were even debating coming out of retirement. That's slippery superfan there somehow have made themselves bigger than the team so they can do whatever they want my opinion pretty much. And as I don't go to a lot of games, people who are seeing ticket holders, it's so much better when he's there. So I'm like, what. Good. We need a press release or something. It wasn't. It was not a great return. Let's get his ass in here. Then we can hash this shit out. I think I can fight you. What Kevin saying from the things that Kevin is learn fireman Ed will fight you? Listen, I retired again. I just find it the, it's like. Absolutely. At its lowest. Picking. I don't know what the hell's going on with the kicking rate fell, Chris Brown's, this guy Gonzales who I guess what. Amos four kit who I learned. Zane to your team? I'm trying to think what that is and he was a fifth round draft pick. I think this year. Zane Gonzales? Yeah. Maybe I don't think he was trying to from Arizona state. So was he good last year. I mean, he couldn't have been in many high pressure at the end of the season. He was like one of the only actual positives you starting to kick well that is now he's, yeah, he was into only positive. I will say it kickings like golf. It's one of those things. I mean, there is nothing no explanation besides you are a mental midget with no nerves to miss this one. Two extra point is okay. What does that whatever you missed? Four. What isn't one game? Dan Carlson for the Vikings, missed three kicks by the way that thirty six yard for Dan Carlson a little a little nice spin zone for all the kickers out there, smarter them to all suck in the same week. So it's of bread. I know. Who was it again with Colson Zing holiday, both they both are taking a little heat off each other. But I mean th the Carlson guy pushed three way right? Missing two extra points. I don't know. Like, what can you acquaint that that is such a fundamental like catching a routine pop up, or I guess when a pitcher can't throw to first base, I don't know what you call is something that is. Ricki lake high school. Kids don't miss two in one game, and then it's one of the twenty six. It's just impossible. The Browns are always going to be the Browns. It was unbelievable. I the the Vikings game to miss. They both have to be caught. Right? I think Zane Gonzalez. Cut, I think Dane Carlson. I mean, he has to be cut. Yeah, he has to speak getting cut, vaunted Davis, the bills just up and quitting at halftime. Can't get enough of this and the bills players mad. The coach took back McDermott. The defensive play calling. Second made a huge difference. The players just mad because the vaunted Davis quit. I don't have that big of a problem with him. I mean, he he pulled. The only problem is he didn't tell his like it's the John John crock told everyone before he's going to hit a single Ghana's car. He went back to West Virginia, like what the bills players are complaining like it makes them look bad. Like there's really matter if you quit after the game. All right. All right. The the real story though, is that he didn't play week. One played a half football, and I think they have to pay him the five million dollar guarantee. I was working guarantee means if you do something like this. It must be. It can't and then all and then the one of the highlights of the week was fits magic coming out into Sean Jackson's clothes, and how of course, the interview question, which is Larry guys only two more questions. They give Sean his clothes back. We gotta make sure we know how to handle success and all those things. So we can't change who we are. How many carrots do you think are around your really heavy? It's really heavy office Magic's the toast of the town, the bucks. I don't know where guys Stephen shea is floating on a magic carpet. Sickle on any is I need to know from Stephen j they play. I think it's Monday night next week against the Steelers. Then they play against the bears. If. Fitzpatrick goes for, no. How can you? How can you? You can't wait. Are we even debating that I, if you haven't even shea said, is there QB controversy? Absolutely not. Yes. Still, he you ask them talent is Jameson trouble protecting his receivers. I dunno, you did that? Yeah. Any contact during. So I think the thoughts are hopefully like, wait, wait, wait, Stephen shades said today, there's no cool today. I'm not going to set it. I know after we want. There is no quarterback controversy today. He's playing football. The home. Listen question is there if you're sick, we need c. j. up here. If you're James Winston guy, are you now rooting against the bucks in a weird way because you don't want like if you lose one game then and it's James says, I'm not even the fact that he's put up the four touchdowns four hundred yards back back when you're wearing to Sean Jack, yes, close on your doing the offensive lineman love you. You're like, there'd be a rebellion this in w the the problem is that the down. Well, when he's done he well, and then he plays like absolute track. Oh, here we go. Is that test of early. It's about. So we're debating yesterday last week, Dan acid quarterback hundred versus in San Francisco. There's still no one because now it's it's Patrick's job, right? If if Janus Lipson could play on Monday night, you'd start dreaming swinson. That's on Monday night this week. Yes. Get off your your ruining your. All through. That's insane. No, that's crazy. That's to your second floor. That's insane. You're saying, if James complete next week, you would still put James. Listen, you got let this magic Lou. He will. He will. Volt your ruin James if he doesn't play great. And that's the thing about it's magic is he does do this where he will get hot and you have to just milk everyone out of. This hot gotta get colder to having the most in the NFL. So you can't break this up with a magic coming out with. I'm gonna eat it w. Hey, what about the the problem? Replacing him with two, so that now makes me believe that even shame might weird alternate universe kind of be rooting against the bucks next weeks because he's so adamant to roll. This is three. It's three games spend, but what I've what people are saying is because they play Monday night football and then Sunday they're going to give Jamisse early by. So they're going to give Jamisse two week six because they wanna give him enough time. But how. How. If you're the bucks in Stephen chair, anybody I would just set James up for stink. Like he's these guy to get to do something like legal and get him. Honestly, the. Yeah, yeah. Dollar Shave Club, dollarshaveclub dot com. Slash bar still pick your own star set for just five no matter what you do in the path to get ready. The all shave club is everything. You need to look feel smell your best right now. You can get amazing deal on my wall on any of their star says, Aric met the daily essential starter said, because I love the amber lavender body cleanser, but you can't go wrong. Just don't know how the viewing audience as home. Doesn't know that's an ad read. I'm reading it. I think they knew, yeah, whether it says that or not, you read every single one. So right up until that moment they may be. But it's like I recommend the daily essential star said supposed to give a little. I mean, I use it every yet. I love do I. I think you Sackler. I actually do use dollar shave. I guess maybe there's that much tax. How do is like, hey, Dave, amber labrador thing they sent that you like just talk about that and do your own spin. We talk about Josh Gordon yet. No. That's I like the Browns doing that. I think they're not gonna win with Josh Gordon. I don't mean win a game. They may win a game. I mean, they're not gonna like win, win with him. He's a problem from culture there clearly. So I liked the move by the Browns. Like he's a game ager if he ends up on the patriots against the Browns will not trade them to AFC team because they wanna make sure they keep their playoff hopes intact though they said. They said the last part, but I do not want to train. There's never been a better candidate for just change of scenery. So I guess his act together released by today to treat them or something. They'll be able to treat. They announced that they will release him basically saying also doesn't that just wouldn't you say on the block? Not as much as we will cut him and just. It it. I mean, I don't know how much leverage you have a guy with that. Can't go to weeks. Yeah, this is uncharted territory for the Browns, having a player that everyone wants yet and on charter territory for everything he's dominant, but he just can't stay in the field. College football debt. So you not great. We were at fan duel sportsbook, which is just an awesome way to spend a Saturday, all the games up there betting legal. I'm for cash left and right to ten thousand one, both loss vandy game, amls one. We're watching Wisconsin BYU and I opened. I should live money BYU. I think it's gonna be tough game. No Constan no chance they lose. The tweet, like I know they're not. They're not great. I've had just really bad. I mean, you're having those down football the sport. I'm just I'm seeing everything like that. My jinx's are just on fire right now. And I said, Patrick Mahomes stunk not great, either. Not great. Either week, one fire, everything. I say the opposite happens. Wisconsin was wildly overrated to begin the season. Well, I said that. I mean, I hate when Wisconsin is ranked top ten that early because that's just not what was concert ball. Is there like a, you know, fifteen to twenty five team that Cup late. You know what they're horsey analogy though. Say it. It's like a plotter verse horses that nothing special and they just grind you at the same speed eventually start passing. You're like, wait there. I even changing speed right now. Slower, right. That's exactly what we are. But I, I went through the range of emotions right after the game. I was texting with a bunch of my friends. Like I think I'm done. I can't do this anymore. They're like year ridiculous. Then obviously a weekly or an hour later like, you know what? That is ridiculous. I in the silver lining, and I know this might sound ridiculous that I'm just spinning this, but there was no chance Wisconsin was going to go to college while playoffs. They were gonna lose eventually might as well just get it over now. And now I just got free football like there's no. What if it was Iowa on Saturday night, what does it matter? We already the season's already affectively over in that respect. So they're going to, we have readjusted, we're going to do the classic Wisconsin. Gonna finish ten in three. We're gonna have a couple nice moments. Probably beat someone in a in a, you know, December thirty first January first bowl game, rinse it again next right. What are you going to say? I I know I've been Wong time on the record. Wisconsin proposes never gonna win a national title. We're just it's just it's the Jimmy Joe's recesses knows at some point. Now this wasn't. This was a very, very disappointing loss because you're twenty three and a half point favorites. But it was going to happen anyway. We've played, you see our state on Saturday, you think Ohio State and Wisconsin on the same level of we play in the big ten. We'll say, I don't remember last time, Wisconsin. No lost the game that they're that big favor. Last time. They lost a home game out of conference. I was a freshman, two thousand three, September nineteen thousand. Well, we'll cheer you up here coach. Oh, the big up that seriously was it was causing lost. And I was like, Jesus Christ fucking eight football done with this, and then twenty minutes later LSU pulls out a miracle Vitry on the planes and coach. The haters of which there are many line them up. Knock him down. Coal takes exposed was having a flocking field since they lost to Troy. I think last year there's something like eight, two their, they have now won three game three, no, this year two wins against top ten teen underdogs in both. They might be my number one number one ranked team are they actually think they should be number one. I don't think they're the best thing. BYU. How much do pay for the transcript that he had with the cop. Oh, he wanted to wrestle. Great coach. Oh, like everything you could see inside everything inside of him was like Rascic right here and you just don't wait. Hold on the cameras, probably on me this police officers into, oh, yeah. They were ready to go the fuck them in the house game haters. Oh. Yeah, big win for LSU, big win for Michigan. I like to keep them play SMU. We took it through them. Did you cover. No, not even close, but God it in to in terms of tragedy. I believe if you had the first half under, I think missing on a seventy three yard deception return. Yes. At the end of the half over, do you if you want you bad busy, that end of that giants Cowboys game yesterday. Yeah, I was sleep. I, I went to bed. I had the cowboy as a second half under. I saw sweet onside kick and they never do. Right? They never do that. Teams are always dumb and they go for the end zone. Yeah, I almost Ida great day. The only thing is that vandy vandy vandy beat Notre Dame. I would've it would have been to the moon. I would've knocked out that fan, dill sportsbook for forty grand span of two hours. They really did five grand a win twenty one underdogs that's Shurmur kid who's actually the son of the giants. He was balling yet there those to have done. It doesn't generally work like that. When you watch something the I like, how is this bad even happening? Because it's like you come out. Second. Half is a totally different game Syracuse, beating floors, four state as quit. They got fire tagger? Yeah. That's the worst team in the country. They're horrible and Vendrell should never been down sixteen three days. So we have. Giants. Oh, I'm here. So what did it. Beckham junior. Assigning Votto Becker won't even drafting saquon Barkley and in punting on fourth and one at the fifth yard line, you have what many will will like think is going to be the best running back in the game for a while now go get it in and he makes everyone mess with that offense of line is they can't walk the giants. Even. Since they won the, they beat the passengers who I mean, I love China fans. Let me tell you something. You just say something. You can't comment about the giant giants fans reverting back to black and white TV. Well, what about borough? It's like you guys are joke franchise. It's not because I know John's well. Well. Scramble. But right now he has more than five yards. I mean, how many times he's really off season where he said, he's real excited to throw the ball downfield. They just don't even do it. They just don't even do whatever this is an old story, but I don't think we'd had the quote and I don't know one that quote came up with the Weather Channel guy who new story. It was like Friday was the clip. Yeah. Yeah. Someone said what there's a couple of and there's also the one Cooper like channel, but this is the Weather Channel guy like Seidman or something. He's acting like he's getting blown over by the wind, like heavy wind in the hurricane in North Carolina, two guys walk by the street. This happens a lot of weatherman, but the Weather Channel issued a press release statement on this. I like this. Unbelievable quote, essentially like, well, he's standing on what graphs while the two people behind aren't cement, and he was working all day. So we've been exhausted like defending this and just an unbelievable serious quote on the Weather Channel. Better than nothing. The best part about the quote, though, do you have the quote, Tommy quote, it's important to note that the individuals in the background are walking on concrete and Mike Sidell trying to maintain his footing on wet grass after porting on air until one AM. And his ties a hard play, those kinds of fresh. He's been reporting, who's the weather doing a crisis for four hour, surprising, throw in like, oh, he actually, he's still jet-lagged from there is nothing hard time at home. Walk the dog and the I thought it was a fake quota for ask him. Are we bogged the quote quote. So then like maybe this is just photo is one of those things that could have been, but there's no group of people as we've learned over the last couple of years, the weather community in their fight for respect is unbelievable. All time was when they're in the boat and the people. Yeah. Six inches of water. The meteorologist names that they just are causing like thing being disrespected, but then they do stuff like this man. I mean, how can you take these people? Seriously? Well, it's one of those professions that technology has just killed and they just can't. They can't figure out like we don't need a guy standing on the side of a road pretending to struggle in the grass when you can pull up your weather, like, yeah, hey, guess what. The shit they did. I'm in the fucking comforta- my studio and I can still show that was cool. That was very just do that for now on one in the middle of a hurricane, somebody was in his ear to lean into it. Wow. You really respect showmanship though. Just go out there and stand there. Just can't have those guys. Right. Anyone perimeter when you're trying to make a roic shot like that, triple g canal. Oh, I know, Dan, you bet this. So the decision went to canal. I want to fight freaking out both ways to me. I said it throughout the late arounds like good luck, scorn it. Yes, the styles, very different. The power punches early all seem canal. Oh, here's my problem with it was I could totally see draw draw. What have been would totally fair. Like you said it was tough to tough to, you know, judge the whole thing. I thought if gun to head triple g did enough, I also think the rounds he won. He won them more convincingly than the rounds of canal one. My only problem is that fucking one judge who had the twelve as canals, that's when people are like, what is going on with boxing because I triple g he came on strong at the end when you say like what Cannella owned the first six rounds. I g came on at the end and he was very powerful the end, I think. Did he not knock the need? Not like stunned canal on hurt in my mind. Twice there were there were only two instances, I think in the entire fight where somebody was stunned, I think triple g stunned canal place was one of them in the last round, though it might have been right. Yeah. And I think. Three rounds that can got stung right. Put to then call the last round for canal. That's when people do. It happens. A third fight, which I do too because it was unbelievable. I two fights have been great. These guys have been basically is even as you can be boxing, they should fight until someone knocks out the other. I don't think that they should around, but that that is one thing that even though Cannella was stunned, he was never in total things like triple pounce on them right away. The one thing that these guys by I, the most of never feel like someone's about to get knocked. Yeah, just like triple, jeez, jaws. Just saying. They really do need a rule in boxing though where if you get to around like that and it's a total toss up, they can bolt just like he's fifteen. And I also think it's not how. That's crazy. They can all. Should change it in the. But I said, at the end of the fight, which would lean towards treble g winning. I said only in the last three rounds, whoever wins the next region win the fight, but the readily doesn't. The first round isn't really matters, but I think it should also the the broadcast all over the place. I feel like they had it convincingly one way or the other the whole time, but but it. But they weirdly did like the announcers were saying, like Roy Jones Lampley were saying triple g, but then our Letterman has in saying. Yeah. Other way Letterman had triple g in the other guys had canal, right? Yeah. It was just like a Royal all over the Jones. They'll say somebody's fading and like the second round the way talking about ROY. I hate ESPN. Hey. However, that being However I don't even wanna put. I don't even want this brain because they're dumb enough to realize this Stephen, a teddy atlas Kim show, right? They're the best at everything better than off everything the when I was watching the Fresno UCLA game at one thirty in the morning when that clip like hit the internet hours, just like, oh, you think, do you think they know what they? I don't think they do. They together, maybe maybe teddy atlas. Can't get excited any since. Yeah, I've played guy. He's a baseball. I feel like. Perfect amount of punch drunk slash funny in his own. Right. And just it was, I don't think he's one of those guys. What makes us authencity? I don't think atlas any. No. He was biased. Pretend to jump off the back of the set. He's a one in a million been doing it for a long long. I feel like they stopped using him to because he's so crazy. Judges of ridiculous. They give it to anyone who's coming forward. If you went forward, they might give it to you. Well, would you might make an exception? Well, you look at it that way, and I see your cracking jokes on me. They need to be funny a point number one point number two, what you're talking about triple g. Let's not forget. You keep going to jab jet like he was connecting. What this I wasn't going down. Teddy. He wasn't doing that the fight again, I have triple winning this fight, but it was close to difference between me and teddy teddy the boxing story, the expert the men knows sometimes can be a little bit Joe critical because he's a little bit of motion. Why? Because he looked at a fight. Yes, I'm calling you built. He's a little bit too. That would be this is what he does. He's the best. You put him out there like fulltime he's prone to say something to get. You know he's getting the got gotta get. By the way speaking of which Lee Corso we've talked about this past year. Yeah, I love. I love you know, everything's for game day, but it's it gets its offer. I say this every time we bring up leak or so. I think he's still sells pences. Yeah, I just wish I don't know. Maybe. Point someone's like, hey, man, just let me know. We don't want people to remember this. All the years really drawn bouquets of flowers at ESPN right now, like the job herbstreet does with him like, yes, yeah, it's very much. It's very much like going to see your grandparents like on a conversation speaking crazy, Tom, Arnold supposedly going to fight with Mark Burnett at the the Emmys tonight. Right? The initial. Yeah, we don't care about the museum is TV rice. Thanks. You. Yes. I mean, it sounds like a big word though. Emmys Emmys. Is that what is that? What the fake a fake any? That's the one they made up for her webbie's the first year award for new shows that only six people watch online with a host. The initials k. and goes to Katie Nolan. I also have like city too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no, you can win Chicago. I think Casey dressed up for the to these. Like social good Morning America, right. Ron, Johnny Reid, two-time EMMY award. I tweeted for your morning American too. Show. Yeah, he was running their the GM account like I didn't deserve it all. No, that's you have them? Yeah. There you get nominated Fermi. Yeah. Well, that's all I got nominated for two in Las, both in one was to Tom Curran. So that'll tell you how your show old on Jeff. Do you like having your profile? I know what you're doing two time EMMY award winner. No, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you have an office at your house with. I mean, you have to have Dave. That's like, where do you live? Jeff, Phil on you guys are crazy for office in your Manhattan. Whoa. As an office guys, if you have to. Office around shelf shelf? It's a on the wall. Right. Okay. Your table. Imagine walking be given a giving a pool float. You gotta then get a people when people come over and drink, put their solo cups. Like a museum you to bring him in Broome and we keep them here for a little bit. Sure. I like that you you hate on the means, but if we can get them well, I think it will be nice, touch this office to tell anyone showing 'em. Oh yeah, three. What are you up? Five. Anything. Now he's giving things away like coatings. I got three for what. Best best sports studio show that goes daily for MLB tonight. While we end is that money studio together for us. I was like running the at squad fly ten and he's we have impor- stool. What's his name? Blabbing. We have fought ten Emmys sports, and you'd have that on the website. He has five Frankie's order. No, no, we're not doing it that way. Dan working on the scholar show until two thirty in the morning on a Friday night, and he just like I have five hundred. Like what? What I'm about? Say, we're just like, I'm like, what. Because the other guy who has the m eastern kiss the footage, it's like. What I'm about to say. I don't want it to be misconstrued as mean, but Casey does it hurt knowing that their ten Emmys in this place and you can win one? No, because mine was for on air. Oh, that's good. Good points. Good for on air scenes. Harder to win it on Asher of. My second EMMY from our. A hurricane relief show left here. 'cause the only get the one they make up. It's like the whole episode is on air. I was next to Dell, the entire episode just me and next Rog. That's like a. You didn't win it for your job on it? Yeah, but he was on there wasn't an on air end like didn't you get old dolled up for this thing? Yeah, you have like red carpet. Think you're gonna win? The show might. I didn't think I was gone my individual but day did takes the next day and he was like, I know Emmys are stupid. But if you want, I'm going to tell everybody that we have an EMMY award. Well, we do. We have. You talk about three Emmys, good Fisher. We gotta get all the Emmy's in here. Yeah, and just let them up. Emmys Jesus Christ. I wanted to them at this point. It's like getting a Twitter treatment. And we should put make this this show up for an. The daily digital show that airs on. I was gonna say this category is the show that there's no chance five years ago. People thought it would still be going on five years from now that would be run away. Absolutely this way, if we put if maybe more played like nicer with people and wasn't like, oh, no doubt. What this is, what's. Stink. This is that we made two years ago. We're gonna change this, this, this show you could win for exactly what you just said. EMMY for show that people didn't think would be still. Like that is how crazy their category. Tomar is funny. Mark Burnett is like the best reality producer of all time. I think he's -vivor dinner. He's done a million. Tom Arnold is in apprentice, which is the crux of the story is accusing Mark Burnett of hiding Donald Trump footage from the apprentice in now he's doing his own reality show called light the apprentice files or something. So I think he just stocks. Mark Burnett tried to beat them up, fair's fair. I feel like you can't let yourself be intimidated by Dom onnell well, especially if you're a pretty big shot guy is you can't be like afraid of tomato late. You have to lay down and then the last story and by the way, Tom Arnold, he's crazy. The fact is with Roseanne makes a bazillion times. Skip. Bayless jet is new jer- shred. I will this. He, he's been sixties shredded. Yeah, guy in this rushing. I still every time sixty sixty six every. Time he tweets about his wife. It's like, that's Ernest. It's not real name name people. They don't. The last Ernestine died in the dust bowl. There's no way that earners teams real name. How about ballot check schmila. Check to. Yeah, there he roasted. You checks smell. More like smell check orange, you that's burn. I'll make a smell check shirt right fucking now. Last thing, which we haven't officially said our guys up. Yeah. Zoll was fighting immigration and the powers that be, and he's officially gone all those papers. No. So I'm on a Amman, entertain his visa. That is, I believe it's three to four years within within that three to four years, you can apply on that visa. You can apply for residents. Thank you already, sort applying. No, I'm gonna. Wait. I'm gonna wait shit out of that. Bob way, Wilson bieber's getting citizenship should get vote. We need. That's awesome. Thank you. Big, big news, so happy to have a fully on. Amazon will be all team portly. We'll be with me at raspberries, us rise little team vacation. No, we work work only when trip. Eight. What did you say. Friday morning. Davor. Nato pitch. Go get into Mike. End up digging. You end up digging a hole, you want dick. Smart. For the record. 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Podcast #864: The 7 Best 70-75-77 inch TVs

The HT Guys

44:23 min | 3 years ago

Podcast #864: The 7 Best 70-75-77 inch TVs

"Welcome to the HDTV punch featuring our Derian and prayed Russell. Now, the HDTV podcast. Everybody welcome to another episode of the TV and home theater podcast. This is episode eight hundred and sixty four for October. Fifth of twenty eighteen and just talking about an outpouring of support that we got this week. Our that was really, really cool. And so we have a lot of Catholic go through in a second, but how you doing man chance to catch up really. Yeah, I'm feeling very loved. So the exactly for the reason that you mentioned, we'll talk a little bit more about that in the cath section, but the weather seems to have changed here in southern California, and I feel fall in the air, but I never let that fool me because summer always comes back, at least once in October. Yeah. I mean, we got a little bit of rain yesterday at least where I was. Oh, is that what you call falls out of the sky? I, I had never seen that before. It's it's long Google in it like crazy is been. So then today was like a sunny summer day, so. Yeah. Well, I'd say spring, you wasn't hot, but it was sunny for sure. Yeah. All right. So let's see. This is the first episode of the month, so contact. And then I want to ask you because I did watch magnum p. I do wanna talk a little bit about that. Okay. If you wanna get in touch with us, if you want to contact us in any way, the easiest way to do that is to go to our website HT guys dot com. You can scroll to the bottom of the page. All of our other access methods are there. You can send Email to us HT guys at HT guys dot com. Social media are as at TV podcast. I'm at Brayden Russell out on Twitter or on Facebook. Everything's there at each guys dot com. All right. Did you watch magnum PI? I did. I watched the first episode. What did you think? I'm I'm going to say that I was not overwhelmed, but I enjoyed it and it was in the style GIC enough that I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna tune back in and trying to their episode. Totally agree. I want the characters grow on me, but magnum I like the actor who plays magnum. I don't know why. But right off the bat, I had no problem with the actor being magnum Higgins is this is a woman and only bummer is I used to love it when TC would call him Higgins baby, hey, hey, baby, you know like that. So in this one that would be, I guess, sexist. So he calls her Higgi which is just a nickname, which is fine, but I kinda missed the, hey, hey, baby. And then Rick. I am not warming up to it all a give. Him time and maybe I will warm up to them, but so it will take time and I will get used to them. But I, I like the the pacing of the shows better than it was in the eighties. And the other thing is I got those basic bass, bass shakers in the couch when there are explosions feel it. So it's really at outs to it. Yeah, and I enjoyed it. They did the the kind of Omar's to the original car and then how they moved on from that original car and everything else. The Robin backstory, I thought worked in made sense. I liked it all. I thought I thought the way it was put together was was done really well in the way they kind of revived the story. And all of the sort of nods to the original thought were really well put together blown away by the overall show. So I don't know how long it'll hold me, but I'm, I'm gonna give it a chance to do that. Did you catch the nod to Hawaii, five o. The comment in there where he goes HP and five, oh, have been notified, blah, blah, blah. And because they're both on CBS and I am waiting for the crossover. You know, mcgarry it's gonna show up on magnum PI and magnums gonna show up on the Garrett because wasn't in this one to get along. They're gonna. They're gonna, rub each other the wrong. No, no, no. Here's the reason why magnum is also a navy seal, so so as mcgarity. So I think there will be a little bit of a camaraderie there you think? I think it could go either way. I think there could either be a commodity or a rivalry. Yeah, I just now, maybe in my head of got this glorified image of all seals loving each other because they've got each other's back. You know what? You know what I'm saying. So I, I kind of feel that more than the rivalry. Although I do have a big Ray where the Camry is with Danny. Right? So he deigned very good. Now I do have a great idea for survivor. So what do they do in survivor? They get these. People, and they just throw them out on island and make them survive, and they're typically out of their comfort zone, but wouldn't it be cool if you had navy seals against delta force against green berets, and you know, had three tribes of these people, and now you've got groups of people that are used to having each other's back, but they're also used to surviving out in the wilderness, and the way the show is you end up pitting them against each other. And I'm just curious to see how it would work. So it either be super interesting or they would go by rank. Okay, you know, sergeant you win. You know, on the vote against the the sergeant, you know, it'll either be super exciting or super boring. Yeah, I think you'd have to have like someone else through the elimination because you're by rank. It would make it difficult, but we'll see how that would be a fun show to watch. I remember go ahead. Did you ever watch surviving the cut the the no discovery documentary did not. It was about all of the different training schools for those elite branches of the different military. So delta force in seals and para rescue and all that and what they have to go through as part of the qualifying to get into it, which was super impressive. And all of them looked like ridiculously impressive, but I'm sure each one thinks that there is harder than the other. Yes. So they all think that you know, they're tougher and stronger and better than the other groups. So pitting them against each other. I think it would be fun and then I'd love to see their camps. You know, you'd have huts with like running water and the heating and air conditioning that's in my toilets that my or you know, like the seals who needs a camp, just gonna sit right here in the elements. We don't care the put a little mud on her, and we're good. So I, you know, I don't know what is his name? Mark Burnett, listens to this podcast, but if he does there, you go great idea for the next -vivor. All right. Let's think our CAF pow. Donations. Oh, I, you can support the show and we've gotten a whole bunch new patriot supporters. A lot of people responding to my personal situation where my company is moving shop to or my division, the companies headquartered in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. So if you're familiar with that, you'll know what company I work for and they're moving our our group here in Irvine back to Cedar Rapids. I will be out of a job at some time in the near future. They have not given us a date. So one of the things that I I said is probably have to go get a new job in which case I'll be focused on that. And I said, however, if the support is really high, I can find a way to sleep less and still do the show. But if the support state at the levels, it would just be very difficult for me to do that. And you listeners have responded. I, I would love to see a little bit more, but thank you so. Much. We picked up a few new donations on patriotic and a few of our listeners actually up their donations. All of you, it is immensely appreciated. I was touched. I explained this in my wife and she could see that I was. I was very touched by the outpouring and she said, see, they love you guys. And we have a great note from one of our listeners here coming up. So you can support us at patriotair dot com slash HDTV podcast. All right. And let's go through the calf POWs. Thank you so much to everyone who bought us coffee regardless. If it was a cath, how not thank you for all the cups of coffee that you got us for the calf palace. Thank you to Frank barn. Akot Timothy surreal, low Steve lamb and Marcus Hammonds of four of those fine gentlemen got us calf POWs, but, and so they get their names read but didn't give us a shout out, but thank you guys. We really, really appreciate it. And so Brian, I don't know if you remember Frank, he worked, I think at the time for either CBS marketwatch and he interviewed us for an article a long time ago when we started the show and it was on, I think it was market watch Frank. If I got that wrong, I apologize, but he still listen to the show. I'm so touched by that. So that's great. Franks been with us for quite some time as well as probably most of these people have been. Then the next calf, how is Denny Claver? And he says. I'd like to send a shout out to my wife. Gina, who took a leap of faith by purchasing a small business after thirty years in HR for the for a local university. She has owned expressly gifts for two years and recently moved the business to a physical store in south tolsey. She ships gore made gourmet and made in Oklahoma gift baskets nationwide. And our website is WWW dot pulsa gift baskets dot com. And there will be a link at our website for that. And our next calf, how is from Tom Dunlap? He says, hope you get enough to continue. What will I do? Friday mornings. Then there's Chris Vargas and uses. I wanna use my calf pie, shout out to congratulate the Washington, the Washington Capitals for finally raising the Stanley Cup banner to the roof of the Capital One arena. Let's go caps and Chris, I watched the first game. You guys are very lucky, no hangover. I think it was like seven, nothing or maybe Boston may have scored a goal. I turned it off after a while, but I remember when the kings won the Stanley Cup both times than they got blown out in the home opener. 'cause I believe they had the Stanley Cup hangover. And our last CAF pow for the days. Bruce Johnson says, just heard the newest podcast, please keep the show going and retire, so you can pursue your passions in life like woodworking at cetera. So thank you very much, Bruce, and Chris and Tom and Danny Marcus, Steve Timothy Frank, very much appreciate the cath POWs. So the first Email actually is from Bruce and it's a little bit long, but I, I wanted to go through it because it kind of. Puts the journey of our podcast in the perspective of a listener Brayden. So he says, aside from the CAF pow, since you guys on Saturday, I got to thinking about some specific ways in which your podcast benefited me and increase my quality of life. I really like this emails going say says, sure. I may have eventually heard about these things in pursued them, but also have missed out on your also may have missed out on years of enjoyment. I'm going to celebrate a lab rate on each one a little bit. Hopefully this gives you some sense of how you guys have made the world better place to borrow an overuse cliche because of your podcast and braid. Once you go through a couple of those, we'll just kinda tag team. These. All right. He says, because your podcast, I learned about a new streaming music service called Pandora. In the early days to this day. Pandora is my constant companion during daily exercise walks pounded music with beads to motivate writing my monthly financial report classic rock or electric blue stations, long road trips at cetera. And the more vigorous walking exercise triggered by the music has likely improve my health as well. Do you remember when we were so excited about Pandora when it was new and we were thinking, this is so cool you, you know, you can. You can customize the station to the way you like the music by thumbs up and thumbs down, and you can kind of just get it honed in there. That was so cool and it was also long ago and you could you could get it on the the Sonos, back in the day where you had the specific Sonos controller and you could do the thumbs up thumbs down from that Sonos control where like the world was changing. You could stream music to anywhere, and yeah, it was. It was a change. In how it consumed music for sure. So next up is he says, I, I learned about the Roku streaming box. Then the that first model is now long obsolete in crammed into the bottom of a closet somewhere. And now I have several much newer Roku boxes or sticks throughout the house still the best dreaming interface out there. And that was when I kinda saw the light would the Roku about streaming and Netflix, and I began to start going into that area. So I started out with Roku. I moved over to the Amazon fire, fire TV, and then eventually over to the apple TV. But it's all started with the Roku. That was me saying that he he's still all Roku, Bruce. Yeah, I'm still all rookie. I got Roku somewhere. I got Roku TV's all over the place now. So he says that because your podcast at I learned about the MO who leaf antenna that was superior to all other small, indoor tennis is a useless intentive for my location sixty miles from the main towers in Atlanta. However, I did try it out at our summer place in Michigan and confirmed it superiority. And this triggered some more research at my home in Georgia, ultimately leading to an obsession with over the air TV signals in two large outdoor antennas that get me all of the over the air networks and sub channel sixty seven total with my setup after decades subscribing to cable TV because I had no sense of what was possible. I cut the cord last year with charter spectrum and use direct TV now to supplement over the air. And he also says, because because of you, I learned. About the tvos and the TV meeting network DVR hardware. This really makes OTA system seeing, and you know, I'm sure there's other things too, but it's amazing about the journey from the listeners perspective. So hopefully we have helped you discover new products, whether just be a new story or actually featuring a product that just come on the market and Brayden and I thought it was cool. So yeah, we really appreciate this Email. He's also says, finally, to get a little sappy your weekly podcast as brightened my Saturday morning for years, especially before I retired doing those weekly chores, like taking a low to recycling driving to the grocery store now. And then it also brightened my Monday morning commute commute. If the weekend was too long or busy kinda guards breath in Athens. So thank you so much there. Bruce. And yeah, I, I. If we were to stop this, it would be a very tough choice and it would only be out of necessity because we actually love the interaction with with you with the emails that we get the tweets and that kind of stuff. So it will be a hard decision if that decision does come, please understand it won't be made lightly for sure. All right into next Email is from van. And he says, a co worker asked me a question. I couldn't answer if my TV. Here's the question. If my TV upscale to four k. what's the real difference in the net flicks tier model? I explained that the source file is better, but the rebuttal was will the upscale ten eighty p two, four k be good enough. And then van says, I would love your insight on this one. Note she has three point. One set up with four k. passer receiver e series four k. vizier television. So my take on that is upscaling is really, really good at making good content. Look good on your screen, but it doesn't make it look better. And if you've got a four k. screen your forecast contents gonna look better so agree, but I asked a follow up to van. He never replied to, but the question I asked him what's the size of the screen? Because of the size of the screen is say, sixty inches and you're sitting twelve feet. Away. It won't make a difference if the only difference is for k. so in that regard, I think we needed a little bit more research, but to your point is correct. It won't make ten eighty p four k. but if you're watching on a device that you can't discern the difference anyway, it doesn't matter. Yeah. I mean, it's kinda like when you had cassettes versus CD's where you can run the cassette through turn on your building noise reduction in all the processing you could do on the cassette to make it sound really good still didn't sound like a CD. Absolutely not, but that's a little bit different because there was a dramatic quality improvement between. That's true. That might have been a little bit. Yeah, I'm about analogy. I take it back the human. I e the different said. Feet. So a four, Cain, ten AP. All right. All right. Like when we had VHS and then we went to DVD either. Yeah. Okay. So next up Email looks like from Stephen Texas says, Hello fellows, love your podcast. I've been waiting for the past two years of find an affordable eighty inch, four k TV. I took your advice in stayed away from ole Ed and culet, but I purchased the TV from Costco when it was on sale for twenty seven seventy nine and threw in a three year square trade warranty. On top of their warranty sent us a link to the TV there was also linked to best buy. We'll have those at the site as well. He says the TV looks fantastic, and I have no complaints as far as four k content goes as my first four case Martinez. So of course, I wanted to feed it for k content. I was planning to purchase an Xbox One to purchase them for k. movies I already own some of my favorite movies on. Blue Ray and didn't wanna buy them all over again since his TV. Upscale blue rays to four k. I decided to play them on my PS three. I put put in Pulp Fiction, and I was blown away by Blu rays look. Fantastic, fantastic. Upskilled in four k. hey, so there's an answer van just tell them about Steve's Email. And this is on a eighty inch of TV where if you're sitting at about ten feet, you should be able to see the difference. He says, I recommend using the built in Netflix and YouTube and other streaming apps included in the TV and not your cable box or a Blu Ray player or the PS three. This will ensure clean for k. feed without unnecessarily running the signal through multiple devices. This is also the easiest and cheapest route. So I decided not to purchase Xbox One just yet. I almost forgot the sound. I connected the TV via an optical cable to my receiver so I can enjoy home theater surround sound while enjoying my four k content and very good Email. Thank you, Steve. The eighty inches twenty seven hundred dollars and you've got almost a theatre like experience in your family room. But don't some of the streaming services support like the full Dolby atmos- and and stuff that you can. You have to go beyond an optical that you would need an HD my cable out of your TV to get that full audio experience if you want more than just Dolby digital. That is true statement. So if Dolby digital is good enough for you, the optical cable will take care of you. But if you want a true HD even think they'll be digital plus requires HDMI indefinitely at most does you will miss out a little bit on that in that case, which you want is a TV, which I'd be surprised of this TV doesn't have it is a a r c audio return channel and then run that into your receiver. And then you will get all those audio formats that we just talked about. Right on. That's it for Email for today. Thank you. Everyone who sent Email emails, whether we read them or not. Thank you very much and jump over. Do some news dish has rolled out an adapter designed to offer dual watching and recording capabilities for their air TV players. Individuals can watch and record live TV through an over the intent, and they can also watch popular streaming platforms. So this is their cord cutters dream box, and you can now watch and record at the same time. So that's cool. Yeah, it is. Very cool are right. A recent parks associates study found a twenty six percent of US broadband households have at least one smart home device. Also twenty two percent have made a smart home purchase in the past year. The buyer journey for smart home households is an important study and understand and understand as we see one purchase frequently leading to a second. Second. And third, and I think we said at a longtime ago, Britain. Once you start home theater, it's like crack. Sorry, home automation. It's like crack. Get that first light in and get it oughta medically, turning on at sunset, and you're gonna want all your lights to do that. So says it will lead to a second and third with householders house holders acquiring devices in incrementally, rather than all at once and that was according to research director, Brad, Russell? I would say that is pretty much my experience with the one exception. I did do it incrementally. And then at one point I went all in, I think after maybe my third purchase, I just went all in. Yeah. I mean, I think I went all in in certain areas, but not all in the whole house. A couple of things I wanna point out here, Brad Russell is my brother's name, but this is not my brother. We're not trying to get him shameless. Shameless research that he did and also are, and I don't do a lot of crack. So getting these products is, you know, when our says like crack, don't think that that means that we also are doing a lot of crack as well, so that we know what it's like. It's an expression. I had a friend that told me that's what it's like. I don't know what you wanna say, but we're not doing a lot of crack. I, I mean, I'm not. I. Young man's game. I quit that years ago. I didn't think that needed to be said, but if you did that, I'm glad. I just wanted you to stem the tide of all those emails that are gonna come in. Cass crank is wag. All right. So next news story, a fire TV stick that supports four k ultra HD video streaming and a voice remote powered by Alexa or the latest devices introduced by Amazon, which also has a lineup of new echo speakers, accessories, and a DVR coming out this fall. The company is servicing twenty five million households with fire TV are twenty five million people out there using fire TV for their streaming. That's pretty impressive. It is very impressive. Alright. So we received a press release from SVS and the are officially entering the high-performance wireless audio space. And this is something Brayden and I have also been excited about since I think maybe our first CAS and remember that's where the guy told us wireless doesn't mean truly wireless. It just means less wires. Yeah, like different wires, right. So the prime wireless sound based transformed speakers with hi rez wireless, audio streaming future facing collectively, and smart speaker control while driving them to their full potential with effortless power from three hundred watt amplifier and a high end Dak conventional speakers connect directly to the prime wireless sound based via standard five way binding post and receive a massive one hundred fifty watts per channel more than enough power to drive any full range tower bookshelf or other speaker sound. Another speakers to sound their best. One hundred ninety two kilohertz twenty four. Did Dak insurers pristine high resolution signal path and sound quality that is always pure natural, transparent and faithful to the source material, no matter what, what streaming connected. So I read this as it's a high-quality amplifier that has some wireless capability and you can connect it to your already existing high end speakers. Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's, I think that's a great product. I think a lot of people would like to untethered there speakers and move them to other parts of the room. And this gives them that capability of doing that. Audio engine has a similar product, right? So it's yes, the, it's a dad, but you have to provide your own amplifier and this one is both built in. Okay. So then SVN prime wireless speaker system delivers crisp accurate in full range sound with a stunning dynamic impact and true stereo imaging. The active passive stereo speaker a is a major enhancement over the unconvincing. Virtual stereo output from ordinary by wireless mounts smart speakers. Cost, no object. Acoustic design is married with smartphone, tablet, and voice control via Amazon, Alexa wifi and bluetooth connectivity, direct access to most popular streaming services and a wide range of inputs and outputs. High resolution multi-room streaming custom presets, and more. That's a lot from this device for reference sound quality to the intelligent control interface. Prime wireless is. A seismically forward for smart wireless speaker. So that was from their press release. So it does sound very raw, but it's more for the information. SVS has high quality products. We reviewed many of them in. I don't think there's been one that we've disliked. So I have no reason to believe this product would be any less than outstanding. But if you're looking into wireless audio, we have a link to their website and you may wanna check out these new products. Do what the heck is a seismic leap. Is that mean that you jump and you land so hard? You causing earthquake? What's a seismic leap? Yeah. Okay. Serious to me seismic means it moves the earth. So it's it's so yeah, I think you're right now. Now that you describe it that way, it's a huge leap that when you land it moves the earth, yes, Brayden you nailed it. It's just a weird phrase, man, seismic leap forward. It's a lot of very flowery language in in that in that paragraph. Well, I mean, yeah, but every press release does that the main point is they do have these new devices. And as I said, we've never been dissatisfied with SVS product. That is true. Okay. So we found this article over at ABS forums, best sound bars under five hundred dollars and the we're going to tell you about him. Why don't you do the first one Brayden since you like clips? You're, you know, you have a lot of clips in your house, and I think this would be good for you to do. Yeah, I am a fan. So the first one on this list, this. List put together by Mark hinder. We'll have a link to it like are set at the website is the clips HD. Theater S b three sound bar and it is a two point. One sound bar. So comes with the bar and a sub woofer. And they say that the ten inch down firing sub adds solidity to the performance and three surround mode creates a more spacious sound watching movies or playing video games. But the main reason to get this system which is shoes HDMI and networking. And basically every other feature of other sound bars is for the two channels eclipse sound packed into a sound bar form factor. So clip sounds really, really good. They're great speakers. If you won't clip sound in the sound bar, this you go. All right. Then next up is the Polk audio magnify max out gladly, vouch for the fidelity of this sound bar. Poke has research has really knocked it out of the ballpark. When it comes to price and performance, the magpie series, you'll get crisp clear dynamic. It sounded includes impactful bass and surprisingly competent sub woofer. Furthermore, the psalm Barr uses pokes patented SDA stereo dimensional array technology to render a wide and immersive sound field without requiring surround speakers. It's also smart with chrome cast built in which allows it to stream directly from many apps and also part of a multi room audio system. This one. A couple of clips didn't have a price either. I'm gonna bind a price for this. Okay. That one that I talked about was four hundred ninety nine dollars just barely a hair under five hundred. There's a bunch on the list. I'm going to jump over the Samsung h w n six fifty. If you're looking for a sound bar and you may potential to add surround sound speakers to it. They sell wireless ad on speakers for that Samsung system. So it's it's pretty cool, but I wanna talk about the Sonos beam. And the article says, when HD my finally arrived in the Sonos university came in the beam, a surprisingly affordable offering from the company that practically speaking single handedly created the multi room networked lifestyle speaker category that's now on fire beam is true, Sonos design, carefully engineered down to the last detail. You can count on several things with any Sonos product. The beam sounds good is attractive, reliable and easy to use. So what's the catch the beam does not include a sub woofer and if you wanna have a proper cinematic experience or get the most out of your music, you need a sub. The price of the Sona sub is steep at seven hundred dollars, but it's a much better performer than the subs that come in the box with other sound bars and speakers and speaks of the fact that you can build out SUNA system that's based on the beam by adding wireless around and the sub for true. Five point one. I haven't heard the Sonos beam yet, but I am excited to try it out. So I have like a really, really cool speaker. I have a Sonos beam. I bought it for our condo and we went up there for Labor Day, but we went with some friends and I didn't have time to install its all have to get to that a little bit later on. But I, I know the products been out for a while. So the review may be old news, but I will at least give you what our impression is of it in the last one I wanted to talk about was the Yamaha music cast of the music cast four hundred Yamaha's been in the sound bar game a longtime and much experience building great sounding examples. The music cast bar. Four hundred is a perfect example as well. It's well rounded technology and now Brayden and I, the first thing we heard was the Yamaha sound projector at a e ES and we were blown away. The problem is it was in a controlled environment where they knew. Exactly how to set up the walls to get the best reflections. But we heard sounds behind us and the only speakers were in the Amaha sound projector. Consequently, we brought those into our houses and did demos in never got that type of performance because in reality, your houses never just four walls. He got stuff all over the place or have open walls. So that's to me were sound bars breakdown and so would the music has bar four hundred? You do get Amazon. Alexa voice recognition DT as virtual x for immersive, sound Dolby vision support via HTM. I am more. It's flexible with a wall mount option and the musicale support streaming services and allows it to be part of a large, multi room sound system. And it is one of the best sound bars for under five hundred bucks. So would that said Brayden I am building sound bar, but it's not really a sound bar on building a an enclosure that houses three speakers that if you've. Got a receiver you can connect up the three speakers to it. And I, I wanted to try this out because I think a lot of people have space for a receiver, but they don't really have a good place to put speakers. And the way I've designed this thing, it's only four inches high forty inches wide and five inches deep. Some thinking I can get some pretty decent sound out of it. I'm making a video as I build it. I should have done in a few weeks, but it will. I think it's gonna look really cool. And I think it's a product at a lot of people would like the component parts are only gonna cost about two hundred and fifty bucks, and I guarantee you, you know, except for the clips is going to sound better than pretty much all these other sound bar. Maybe not the Sonos either, but the other ones it will definitely sound better than I've been trying to look up pricing on that cliff shin, it's no longer available Crutchfield than Amazon. This only visible from one seller in his nine hundred bucks. So. It must have been five hundred bucks at some point. Yeah, and now it is in scarce demand, everybody wants it and it's hard to get your hands on. He had there you go. All right. So the last thing we want to talk about is article found at ratings dot com. It's RT I n g s dot com in it's entitled the seven best seventy seventy five seventy seven inch TV's and this is based in October. It may have been released earlier, but they revise it just recently. So we're gonna go through these TV's really quickly for you and the best seventy seventy five seventy seven inch TV is the l. g. o. led seventy seven c eight model. And it has a mixed usage rating of eight point eight. But for movies, it just shines at nine point, three sports, eight point. Seven TV shows eight point five now HDR movies. It's got a nine point one rating and it says the best TV we reviewed that is available in the sizes that we just mentioned is the LG the LG see aid is an outstanding TV would with excellent dark room, performance perfect for gaming or watching movies in a dark room. The selfie miss of technology delivers deep blacks, perfect of black uniformity and his excellent emotion handling with near instantaneous. Response times. So motion looks crisp with very little blur. Here's the thing I took out of this dark room. So if you are watching any kind of daytime content, this may not be the TV to get, even though it's ratings, number one, pick. Yeah. And that next paragraph says, it's kind of like a one, two punch. Gamers will love the extremely low input lag, although it lacks more advanced gaming features like the our auto low latency mode, unfortunately, like all lead TV's. It does have a risk of temporary image retention and permanent burn in, but under normal varied usage, we don't expect this to be an issue for most people. So like you're saying, if you're doing maybe a lot of gaming or daytime content might not be the right screen. So maybe you're looking for an LED based alternative to that one. If you're concerned about the risk of burning the LG, see eight or simply want the best LED TV on the market, they say, you wanna get the Samsung q in seventy five. Cute. Nine f. n. it's an excellent q. LED. TV is not have the perfect blacks or the wide viewing angles of the leads, but it does have a great picture quality with deep blue. Lacks thanks to excellent native contrast ratio in great local, dimming colors. Vivid in the TV is great for HDR content. It's very bright also suitable for bright rooms. It costs less and also offers great performance but doesn't have as good local dimming. So cost less. Sorry. Britain is fifty to ninety seven versus sixty nine ninety six for those TV's the old lettuces sixty nine ninety six and the q. is the fifty to ninety seven. So about a little over twelve hundred bucks less. All right. Moving onto the mid range. It's the Sony XP are seventy five x, nine hundred. F- if our top pick is too expensive for you. The Sony XP are is the best range TV that's available in this size, even though the x nine hundred doesn't have the infinite blacks or perfect uniformity of the l. eight. It has excellent overall dark room performance. It's livers excellent, deep blacks and full array. Local dimming improves overall experience. It performs better than the eight in a bright room and is noticeably brighter in SDR and HDR motion looks almost as good on the Sony and but it is slightly. It has a slightly worse impact latte, input lag. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the size. Same wide viewing angle is a CA, but overall, a great TV that should please most people and it has a mixed usage rating of eight point three. And movies is eight point five, but in HDR movies is a point four. It has a mixed usage rating of eight point three and the Ola barely even got anything. Any individual category down at a point, eight point to a Louis scorecard, PC mono. And this goes, you and I talk about side by side. You're gonna see the difference, but if you don't have them side by side, I don't know anyone who put the Sony in their house and be disappointed with it. Yeah, for sure. But they do list to alternatives. So that was the best mid range TV if you're looking for a cheaper alternative to the Sony x, nine hundred f. they recommend the seventy five Sonia piece, seventy five f one, the piece series does not have the excellent brightness of the Sony, but it has a superior input lag and an equally good motion handling. It's versatile TV. That is good at almost any usage and their alternative for gaming. If you don't like the Sony for playing games on, they recommend the Samsung u n seventy five. And you eight thousand. It doesn't have the picture quality. The Sony will not perform as good in movies or with HDR content. It lacks full array, local dimming. However, it is a quilt with a very low input lag and variable refresh rate capability, which makes it pretty attractive for gamers. And the Sony goes for how much is the Sony here? Thirty five hundred dollars so much cheaper even than the q. lead. And I believe. The culet and the old Ed are not necessarily two thousand dollars better, but all right. So the best budget television, the seventy seventy five seventy inch size category is the. Hang on, what did I miss your device skipped out? No, it's the, it's the video d seventy three. The video d series for k. model is the best budget. TV does not have local, dimming features. So dark room performance isn't as good as the x, nine hundred. But it has a fast response time which delivers crisp motion an excellent, low impact, low input lag for gaming, and this TV goes for. Nine hundred ninety five dollars. So you've you've dropped way down in price, but also the the mixed usage rating is seven point four. So I think that's a significant difference where you might actually see a difference a but at the price point, if you're just looking for bang for the buck, big size and still pretty good TV your, it's going to be hard to beat that at at that price at that price is is an incredible deal. But yeah, when you look at where that seven point four mixed usage came from the two lowest scores on the list are six point seven for movies and six point eight for HDR movies. So if this is going to be your movie watching TV this is probably not going to be the best one for you to get. You may be able to spend a little bit more and get something that's going to be a little bit better as a movie watching. Yeah, totally vision and they have a in this category. Also another alternative, the larger alternative in this category. If you want a seventy two seventy five seventy seven. Inch budget TV, but the gaming performance of the video isn't good enough for you. You can get the Samsung UN seventy five and you seventy one hundred. It has extremely low input lie for gaming or for uses a PC monitor has optional black frame insertion feature that can improve motion. Clarity at the expense of some brightness also has an optional motion interpolations feature that can further improve motion smoothness. Although some people don't like the soap opera effect that this introduces so I think across that entire list are if you're in the market for a TV in that size range, there's got to be something in there that would speak to you with all their alternatives for different use cases and stuff. Yet you know, I think ongoing would the the Sony the XP are seventy five x, nine hundred f. I think that's what's going to do it for me because it's got the direct. Lit LED. So I get the really dark or darker blacks, and the price point is reasonable. And the performance eight point three is actually pretty good usage compared to a point eight. So you're not taking that much of a hit on the quality? Yeah. And it looks like a great performer from April five on movies in a performance GR movie. So it looks like a great like home home theater screen. I add on how you would say that wreck is not really theory, but like you're, you're right movie screen. Right? Exactly. So that article will have a link to it. It's again, available ratings dot com. That's a great site. They do some very indepth reviews quite frankly to the level debris, and I can't, and we do have permission to use a lot of their information. We just point you back to ratings dot com. So we think them very much for allowing us to do this and for. Everyone who has become a new patriarch in patron of the show or has continued in that or the cups of coffee and the calf house and everything that came in. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it, and our fingers are crossed were hoping you know that it it can continue so that we can continue to the show. 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