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Ep 183: Iconic Hairstylist Guido Palau's First Podcast Ever!

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Ep 183: Iconic Hairstylist Guido Palau's First Podcast Ever!

"Hey It's Jessica surprised you there Eh. That's right we're recording fat Mascara. Yes it's it's very cold today here in New York. This is like the first day of the cold snap. Don't I get to introduce myself before we talk about the weather other. Oh you didn't see your Jan no jen. Hey with high So listen we've got a lot of fun things to talk about. I'm so excited about the show and you will understand in just a few moments. We assessment juicy topics to get very topical. Let's talk about VISCO girls. I mean I'm still trying to wrap my head around what they are. I will temped to talk to you about them. Not Sound like my mother because I feel like I've turned into a mom the minute this whole trend came about this summer. Just okay Are they killing makeup sales though. Oh that's an interesting beauty angle to the whole visco girl thing and lastly Jacqueline Hill trying again with her makeup line. Who's our gas now? We have had some legendary Duri hairstylists on the show but somebody who is at the top top top of the pile. Okay like I mean there. I'll makes it sound less glamorous glamorous but yes top of the heap worse of the hill. Okay they're really only a few names in one of them without out a doubt is Guido Guido Palo he is the global creative director for Redken but for far longer he's been a legend in the industry he basically we created the grunge luck in terms of hair and you know beauty He has worked with every major designer. And he is somebody who honestly doesn't hop on the Mike every day so we earlier so Hashtag left to have Guido in the stewed. We've been working on getting this interview for you guys for Awhile. We hope you enjoy water break. Having a moment with our friends friends from circle. Okay Circle is something I needed in my life. Remember how I said for new years I was going to drink more and be more hydrated have seen. You're going to the bathroom more. 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I think a lot of people might know this term but I'm not less shrine at straightaway the SCO the APP VISCO is not just about filters yes. You can put a lovely wash on things. They look like from Simpler Times. Like seventy sort of like film you. You know very analog but it's also how you share photos way there's less pressure they think than instagram. You can share photos on a visco sort of tumbler but the newer version of it. It's okay fine so out of this came a cultural trend Of the VISCO girl who is half making fun but half proud of it. A lot of the girls are like I'm a VISCO girl. And there's these weird accoutrements that come along with being visco girl in the way of any young team trend right so what do you have to use visco to be a VISCO girl. No and what's funny is like a lot of people who I would look at them and I'd look at so first of all my my friend. I amy her daughter's twelve so she's who keeps me cool on all these things and I would look at. Maybe some of her friends or her and be like that VISCO girl but these girls who'd be like I'm not a VISCO girl. Let me tell you about some of the coupons and then we'll get into it okay. The big one is the hydro flask. Okay like a water bottle. Yes because the the trend of this girl's like she's very environmentally friendly. So she's like save the turtles or they actually say that kind of I don't dance smocking. I don't like them no no. I don't think they're too. They're just like all natural girls who love being at the beach drinking their water from this thing with the Metal Straw. They've got like eight scrunches on their arm. Big oversized t shirt or chew signaling through the water a little bit but honestly I was looking at all like the girls that are like this. I'm like that's all the stuff that I wore in the nineties. It doesn't look big. oversized shirt like some vans. Ends are very nineties The love Mary Badescu Rose Water Spray. For some reason the twelve dollar rose water sprite or the fragrance is it is kind of like an under state everything feels well maybe not the scrunches. But there's something very casual about everything this feels very California Very Kelly casual casual and anti consumerism. which I think is hilarious because of all random things like the fuel raven backpack? Oh you gotta say that Brand Name. I didn't know that was like take that. No disrespect to this brand but like I remember seeing those when I was younger and they were at the end they were not cool. I thought that they were for like tourists. Like Jan sport goes in and out of fashion fashions. Part was cool right but then it wasn't for a while and then it was again and now it's you know how teams are fickle. But like this all this basically it just seems to me just is it like. It's a little bit basic. It's basically a little bit so why so why did to retire basic and we went into visco girl you know. I think it's just that the minute things reach a point where they're named or someone gave it a name. Then every freaking media outlet news channel jumps on it and the minute a mom. Tom Is explaining on television to the world. VISCO girl is I bet you. Every girl who's like twelve to fifteen and falls into the categories like throw their scrunching. Go girl. Yeah yeah the second thing but the reason we wanted about it was the beauty thing besides the fact that they love Mario Badescu rose water spray. We read this article That perhaps the reason color cosmetics sales are down is because of the VISCO. Yes so color cosmetics. I think we've talked about this in the show if not we certainly will car. Cosmetics Knicks are really way down. Remember like just a year or two ago I thought there were so up. It was like all of the brands coming out from like direct to consumer heavy heavy pigment very like instagram Elon's but now the aesthetic has clearly swung the other way so fortune magazine wrote how visco girls are killing killing makeup sales and reshaping the beauty industry. It's an interesting article will put it on our site but You know they're twenty one percent down crease in cosmetic nick my word but I like it down. I meant decreased But teens are spending like a v less than they did last year. which just significant? I think it's this kind of it's funny. I hadn't heard this brought up like immediately if this girl's like the glossy aesthetic. Yeah we actually see. That's what's funny the VISCO girl does love glossy. Yeah I think it's that that it's maybe it's just the pendulum swing the other way. After like years of you gone gone tour. I am not ready to say the color cosmetics sales are down because of visco girls. It's just that like this makes a nice trend that day. Sort sort of re rose to In cultural renowned right around the time color cosmetics sales are down but what I think we're seeing is a backlash to the instagram drag aesthetic. That was big for a couple of years and they're still men and women who love that look not everybody is doing the no makeup makeup. Look but the thing that makes me laugh the hardest about this other supposed to be anti consumerism and into the environment environment but they are still buying products with brand names just like anybody else. I don't buy maybe I'm really cynical. I think I am. I don't buy that. This has anything to do with ethics like core like tried to change the world. I think it's it's still. It's like you're fifteen years old like you want Nike's or whatever the hell out now is maybe what's funny to the brands that were named as the this type of teenage girl who really does move the dial on the trends of the culture war were Besides the Mario Badescu in the glossy they also mentioned tart which I thought was interesting because to me. That doesn't play into that aesthetic other than maybe the marine tartlets heavy color. But yes. Yes maybe the Marina They do kind of like Like St Charles. Yeah aquamarine there's like a coral thing one time but but anyway. I'm not ready to say that color. Cosmetics sales are down because of a small pop group of the population of twelve. Sixteen year. Old Girls I don't it's my this is is my last word on it and it's kind of funny because this is what the whole fashion industry is all about in the beauty industry but it's this it. It's almost a little bit like grunge or war Ito any trend. That's like I care but I don't care but there's so much thought behind this zely what it is right. It is why it's annoying but it's annoying to us as adult women but as a teenage girl lake that she thinks that she discovered all of these brands for the first time and saving saving the turtles and wearing a scrunchy has never been done before. And like I feel like that's how you experiment when you're young woman and trying to find your place in the world you try on these personas and I think this is like one of those personas. I don't think it's moving the dial on frigging color. Cosmetics sales across the whole country. Come on I mean either so from visco girls. Let's go all the way to the other side of the dial two Jacqueline Hill who frankly is representative that group that we were talking about that maybe has been pushed aside a little bit the instagram drag hover heavy governor. She'd wanted to be called drag. But the of I get what you're saying Nixon fired theater and drag me guess And we had her on the podcast episode. One seventeen that was last summer it was like in July. My Gosh Yeah Yeah and so. It was really like short shorts. That's how I remember. It was like warm out yes. She was in Buffalo Platt on my short shorts. We didn't talk at that time. She did not have a makeup lines. WHO's working with Becca that time she had since then launched a makeup line which which in crazy viral fashion became like it just failed miserably so there were people reported getting their packages from Jacqueline Hill? All and they would close up on the lipstick and it looked like you dropped it on the floor because it had all kinds of little weird fibers neighbors lake just a little nasty bits on it and people oh really took rather than cost customer service. That's not what you wanted. They put on social media and just blasted her and and she was guys. She was cancelled to her credit. She also cancelled the line. She she did a recall. They refunded a lot of money. She pulls it back every I respect that because maybe she didn't you know she didn't know what she was putting out a sample. But you don't know when it's mass produced it's going to be up to the quality that you you expect But I'm like this girl's got balls. She's like Lemme Trigano. I like that. I like the tenacity. I like that she. You know it wasn't like just didn't just run and hide But also I kind of question like a lot of these these lines and I don't know how many were color ones we're gonna see because of color. This one's coming out the relaunches. I believe November. Twenty six just to give you A. It's a bold move but there so many brands that are just rushing to market. I mean and you and I talk about this all the time. We have so many random like personality base cosmetic brands that show up to our beauty closets and they don't look like they've been thought through like I don't. It's this fast cycle. We've seen what it's done to fashion. You know it's it created shit tunnel waste. Excuse me Low quality items. Just so people can scratch that edge and I'm seeing the same thing with cosmetic. Excuse me didn't wasn't Belinda. who works at a lorry? Al Who was telling us when L'OREAL test the product it has to go through the drop test it has to go through the freezing to heat like like stability issues like the shortest that we like mine right while she was I forget what the number was the shortest. She could get a product out was much longer than I think. Some of these direct to consumer brands that don't have to worry about retailers and all that and obviously Jacqueline Realize shed a little bit more work to do on her lie. So I'm impressed. Truth her for relaunching and I'm so curious to see if it's too late. She missed the like you know. Her time has passed and she would have made a lot of sales of quality. You know before you're she's also had a bit of a Social Media Hiatus in the meantime which if you want to hear about her social media hiatus is and why that might be. You should listen to episode one seven young. She gets really really frank about how it affected her relationship. Her marriage. Frankly is hard agenda. It's hard out there for an influence. You know what I'm saying I'm Kinda rooting for her. I have to say too. I love a comeback. I love that she owned up to what was wrong with the line and I hope to God this one has not fuzzy. Bits on people people get out the magnifying glass. So I'm sure she did her homework. I hope she did her time. Good Luck Jacqueline. Time for some sponsor. Love Okay Jen jess here. So so you guys know with the most important anti-aging tip is right. Where sunscreen simple so ran has a great one? I am crazy about thir new clean. SCREEN MINERAL SPF thirty. Magnifying sunscreen broad spectrum. 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No credit card required by going to this address acuity scheduling dot COM com slash fat Mascara and you spell acuity like this ac you it y scheduling all one word DOT COM backslash fatma-zohra. Okay guys we gotTA. We snatched him. Guido is here. I'm so excited right Ed. We have wanted to on the show for such a long time. you know I'm I'm calling you Guido Guido Palo but I just your one share Madonna Guido Baker. He is redken global creative director but bigger than that he is a hair legend. You know basically started grunge work with every every big designer. You can name of Taga free photographer like this is this. Is Creme de la Creme A.. Plus List Gug we'd welcome Doctrine you like that. Yeah update also the share Madonna reference. It's his first podcast. You've never ever been on. I love that like I have to be like a little self congratulatory. A you don't do a lot of interviews. You come to New York like if you live in New York but you do like the press thing like two days out of the year if that right yeah no no not your I do a lot of interviews and then get backstage age. Were all frightened to talk to you. Because you've got a million people in your ear and you also have to create a sculpture for Marc Jacobs But it's Ed very excited to have you here but I gotta go back to the beginning. Why did you want to become a hairdresser? It was I pretty good at it but but it wasn't something I kind of like. I wasn't like a little boy in sort of this. Might Small town in in the south of England Brushing does it wasn't in my. I didn't really think about I. There was an inkling of like interesting in the way people looked. I was interested in style but but I didn't know back. Then that's what it walls to mean whereas whoring over vogue no I. Would you know I was intrigued. You knows a very different time is like you know early Seventies. I mean I you know I wouldn't sixty two so when I saw it. Look people twelve thirteen. I knew there was something I was attract to like David Bowie. I was attracted to so so popular. Coacher I that name was neurone then but you know it was sort of so aware of sort of visual things you know is a very different time. You want to bombard it by things you know in and you didn't or unaware of how the fashion industry would I mean the fashion just a very different thing than that it was still kind of in its infancy embassy. But it's sort of growing up in small seaside town You know it was a town that people used to come to on holiday weekends from London. I and and young people and they seem more stylish more sophisticated. I was attracted to it. But I didn't really know that that would be you know his formulating myself kind of thing. I was So a regular high school and I really didn't do well I I didn't fit in. I was the kind of you know. The oddball Dune Amine. And I didn't I couldn't sort of like Finn and I ended up not going to school a lot and so hence I fell. I wouldn't really do very much. You know I didn't really have a great day projection for myself and no did might. My Dad did neither. You know I think at least yeah you know. I think I was the least likely to and I still feel today skipping ahead when I hear How hard it is especially in America? Kids trying to get into school in colleges and the pressure to succeed in an academic World Phil Phil. That's like something I mean. Back in the seventies in England. It wasn't that if he didn't fit into a mode you didn't it didn't work and I didn't fit into any of those molds and there was no teachers all sort of adults to guide me so add crappy about it. You're just like oh I don't want yeah I did feel. I didn't know how I feel and I see he was dealing with my kind of of sexuality number young as not being able to express myself in that way either in that time I mean so there are lots of things going on inside of me that I couldn't really get out and I didn't really know how I was going to you know. Go on this but you think that that it's funny. I'm thinking about another podcast. I listen to The author Brett East Analysis. He always asks his guess. What were you like in high school? And what was the moment like. What made you a creative? Because he is he feels that. There's like a thread like a through line with all very successful successful creative people that there was a moment of hardship or a period of hardship was out your period of hardship. I think it was and I think it was like you know I was so of uncreative in my head. I think I went into my head a lot and I created this world in a way to escape. I mean this an I. It wasn't terrible. I Ah I did live in my head you know and I think later on in life I created my head Jimmy like a way of how I began on creating but going back. Hairdressing wasn't something I was like is almost thing I wanted to get away with because I didn't really want to identify with you know because it felt like effeminate mentioned addresses his going through a weird kind of you know here it myself remain anyway to move fast forward also sixteen seventeen. I'd left school. I did not need grades. I didn't have anything. I traveled around when to Europe and I was hitchhiking and doing odd jobs jobs. And you know one of the goes I met was a headdress when I might could do identity nowhere else to do. I moved back to England and apply I to be douse as soon for an apprenticeship in England you don't go to beauty school you go to Ceylon and you kind of urine assistant the three years and in the evenings you do night classes and learn how we do that anyway. I didn't get on very well. They're even up the ascetic suits. I didn't didn't sort of like Meld. Well with the sort of light that training in the way was his very rigid. And you doing your own thing while I was Getting in trouble or anything was playing rhinos. A little bit older you normally go starts with beauty scoot sixteen or something and I was twenty by estate. I'd done that bit of traveling so I was a little bit older and probably like insecure in mouthy and saying the wrong thing you know I was still sort of like did you last all three years. No I didn't I lasted for about eighteen months. They're left there or got fired and you know they. It was funny because later on when Mr Sassoon did he didn't but later on he came to find my work and I interviewed him and he interviewed me for a maglev. Ver- AVI magazine article. And how you know even in that Short period how soon really formulated a love my ascetics and it was very interesting and and He and feeling I got fired and he so I heard you did and you know it's funny. We became not friends but he was. You know I was a huge mirror. What he did in the sixties and he became a huge mom? I was safe. Flattering the you know. That happened in the legend I got fired. By Sassoon's I went to another salon in London and it was there when I was working in another Salam. The young girl was going out To do a Ajab on a small magazine a weekly magazine and I carried back in the when I talk much about it And it was that that I've really sort of felt at home in the studio with other creative people and fell I could really. I mean I didn't know it that not day but I felt it was very Fr- an environment. I could work being onsang and seeing the creative process so creating characters and beauty and Obama and so I very very much sort of went back. You know quickly. Let the Ceylon away and found an agent you know and then side my journey and so when do you think you arrived at that moment when you're like wow interviewing Mr Sassoon. He's interviewing me or was there a particular project you worked on like. Okay I can make a living of this. I'm doing okay funny enough you know yes. There have been great moments in my career. But you know I think even to this day I feel like have I arrived if I may dis still never I never feel. I didn't if you're a crate may be you you. You never filled that you've really arrived at this. Being some great moments I take to law of the boxes all the boxes. I won't do in my cry. Never thought it would take me to where it's taken but still every day. I'm insecure about my work. What I do so yes this? been seminal moments in my career that I've really like I wild. That was amazing but it never like. Oh it's amazing. That's I'm fine. I'm Donna I'm sort of at this level is not gonna go. I always feel maybe being you know. in a business that is of like always looking for the next new thing I know I never lost. His point is always bought. The next new everything You mentioned the fashion world when you were like a young kid. How it was very you know we didn't we didn't have the exposure that we have today? which just like you know everyone? Everyone's fashion adjacent sea than they know. Exactly how it works. How do you when you look at? How fashion world has changed? What do you feel inside? You know when I started you know in the early eighties in the fashion business. It was the beginning of like street. Style how street stopping reported on people being into magazine I d the face in England needs to St Staus of magazines And you know all kind of like a club coach being reported on it was really exciting. Time in the fashion industry picking up a no LABATT. I mean it was a small industry. It was like it was probably like a back. Then it fell more grand priva- instead of like you didn't know what was behind. The big doors of folk house is like a cathedral to fashion in a way now does is we all know is you can read about his exposed. Everybody knows about it. I mean you can't say that was a time. This is a different time to the industry's changed law and IT'S A. It's a huge business when I started in the business I didn't know it was a business. I just thought it was a creative thing. You know you didn't hear about the comments of the industry but hadn't really started to sort of show itself and then it became commerce homage. You realize you're selling bags and you know you is a pop a commercial industry back then. It felt like you were part of like in a sect of Soda Crate People. Where does the money come from for this photo shoot? We don't know we're making that the new film led to be created because you're not talking about the budget or what you're trying to sell you. Ashby creative in the course of your career. You mentioned seminal moments is there. Are there any come to mind or collaborators that you worked with that really stand out and just this was when I did some of my greatest work with these people. I think the first collaborate that really standup as David Sims and He he told me you know I I feel I had so many break teaches David Sims photographer. Yes he's talk and he who is very sort of a big talk for the kind of him in another English folk who current day with two photography kind of broke ground in the early nineties. Nine ts with the soda. GRUNGE movement which was a sort of a music lead Fashion cutting movement that broke down the idea of beauty. And what was kind of you know before that were in the soup muddier late eighties Nova and then this new movement come along very much was happening now. A gain inamine fashion and kind of broke people's idea what was beautiful the full who was beautiful. What was beauty? Amine is hard to to look at it now but kate. Moss was the pin-up of that era. And then then she seemed alternative. An Edgeley Edgy. And sort of not the classic beauty now we know her as isil icon ick famous model back then. She was like this young. Go from a suburban town. That was the so. You know the the so three sixty of a supermodel and was David just the the photographer of this moment. Is he the one that was. Capturing a lot of those Graham Kgo could car in day With the two to leading the way and from that movement we all got picked up by bigger brands and it was the sort of vehicle that kind of propelled as was into like spotlights. It's usually like camaraderie with Kate and David and Karen because it was like. Wow like the stuff that we're doing kind of on our owner at a small scale is now being recognized by the mainstream. Yeah no certainly you felt you were like in this. Like kind of Edgy Ban. That he yeah. I want to be in that band that by Nino and we've been cooled by these huge brands. Like Calvin Klein was flying to America. And you know it was a liar refer. CK is was he came one at. And you know the mock chemo pitches and all that kind of thing but we will brought this up like we were working in a very independent way lane London and then we were all kind of transported to neo. Consider celebrated Janine and David I spoke to now yeah. Yeah I'm I'm I'm his Godfather. There and we still collaborate not so much together. But we're still you know he's my best friend and Yeah yeah he I mean he was the first person that kind of in a you need people to encourage you to see things and he was someone they made me read. Look up beauty. I was still kind of looking at sort of American Glam kind of thing and he seemed to look fashion and beauty in a a different way. Nuts what he was doing in his pitches and so we kind of created this new idea of beauty. which was you know the beginning of my kind of you know Asab success so wet look has been the most personal to you? Were what project would you say. It was back then with your buddies in the early nineties. Or if there've been something sense that you know has a very big place you I mean I think you know when you're sort of like you know nip beginning of your career and you'd could you much more unfilled to new. Don't know what's going on us and they when you look back. They always. It always feels so special than in how he created. Pitches is and crated has dolls. And how you you know research diaper thing you had. There was a lot more time than the industry was working at a slower pace and and some of the stories we were on for magazines would take ten days. You know we'd like God re-shoots things and all you know you know not ad campaign with B four days in a day would be spent with myself in the make applause working out the look you know. It was a much different time informing the deeper relationships. And so finally we just the other day and it was like. It's five fifty five. I'm turning autumn unplugging the lab we have to to to hustle. Aw Yeah no it was like eight ten is can rent my head around. That three days is crazy So you know. Is that different than it feels special you look back. What's funny now? I go to and what would design is and they've got these images and the mood boards of light you know and it's like wow but that was a very every year images but they didn't realize is what of the projects that you've done or the look of you done. Do you keep seeing on other people's version of it was so funny. I I mean a lot of that. Ninety s peerage which was went from the grunge kind of period than it went into a sort of a minimal kind of thing when so the minimal signs that helmet Langen Joe. Sonda Donda became very popular in the mid nineties and at this period. Now that sort of look is being kind of looked upon us or you who knows being reference to gain in USA to see sort of the ads and sort of this sort of added Torres. We did than so. It's very nice to stink up. I've been in the industry. Does it ever bore you though I. You've had so many references throughout the years you've created looks that became references for other people. Are you like Here we go again. Ah where am I going to find something new and fresh or you always being inspired by new things. I've Moore's trying to push my own ideas and visions and I liked to sort of like You know startled myself still soco. IS THAT BEAUTIFUL IS I. What is that you do that? You just like go out there and just let me the craziest thing I can and we'll see if we look at looks good I I mean I think I got now. I didn't have back then but I have. You know more culture references a things. I know how to play off things and I'm so more aware things are not saying it makes my work better it so 'cause I think sometimes the innocence of when you're working is is really kind of what it kind of makes it so. Oh Special Jimmy. Not Knowing so sammy things I think now I know a lot of things. I know the industry so well and and to make something Phil startling now always law hard and just in the world we live in way images a perceived. It's harder to make reaction than it was back then so it's not soon. Yeah it'd be hard to surprise you know it's funny when you look at your hair like that. Am I realized that you you know have been versatile and you are versatile hairstylist but in the nineties it's very minimalist kind of grungy hair there and looking at your work it gets very sculptural it gets very The word is not cartoonish but like it gets sculptural if we need to do something very abstract. You're the guy is it because you're just looking for your pushing yourself in that direction like. I don't WANNA go naturalistic. I need to go. Yeah I mean I always playing against contradiction. What may be people think known for gene so I might do something extremely sculpt a naive and did book not so long ago with David is look it looks retouched because I felt that that's how people are looking at things in a very retouched unreal way so I wanted to make the Hatfill Unreal Seinfeld? It was like the best word unreal. Yeah yeah so I wanted to make it feel like doc an is it. Was it something from the future or is it something from the past and why is it so perfected so I just wanted to be A. I always want beauty to be questionable. Gentlemen hours won the Buick to look at it and with some questioning point and not just go. That's nice. I'm not sure if they love it like they like that noise or is that is that a nice texture or pretty. You'd be insulted. Yeah well because we know what Nice and pretty is I think for me. It's always been about questioning tastes in questioning the viewer to challenge their idea therapeut- he's always been something that's been might the button to go to you now. Iowa's want someone to look and go. Is that beautiful isn't it. Is that go. Beautiful Beautiful What is 'cause that's why I'm attracted to? When I was growing up in those years in London I'd go to nightclubs and be like extreme in people and they were like they were like exotic to me but they were just like suburban goes in boys making themselves up into these characters but you? I didn't know uh-huh them so when I just looked at them I was like looking in them with like questioning and they'd be like they would like these amazing kind of people to me. And that's what I didn't I wasn't attracted to like Like Marilyn Monroe and like you know glamorous architects architect dilemma. It didn't it didn't push anything for me. It was always like the sort of alternative beauty that I was attracted to so in my work even now I do. Many things is always that kind of questionable edge like and it can be a small thing that rocks my world like is the texture extre right or is that purposely bad it herbs the mad that you see that is that Cup to shore or is it right suicide. What makes it has been? That's really important to me. And I trying get that in the work even if it is glamorous like a while back I I did a show with Kaya cobb and I made a huge Valentina ballinger. Yeah but it was like so big it becomes a little bit perverse. Yeah so big is like is that too big. Yeah you know what I mean or is it the but there's been no point doing okay. Hey big yeah make Seca get somebody else to do it but if you can do it big. The new Muslim Neko there. Let's go that to mean so even even in its glamour. I tried to make a little bit like So you mentioned the Valentino. Show you do. Marc Jacobs all the time of of and everyone is always got her is not show. You do you really are like the the guy for you know for Ria for runway of how the Hell so you keep your energy up because you hit New York. You hit powerless. You hit Milan of the browser London to you had just got back from China yesterday did this show him. About and Tina Samantha. Silver faces were amazing power play. I said we decide to go into certain airline. It was like you're on the plane of forty four hours there and back as I realize we just been on a plane circled the world. Yeah basically I suppose I still really enjoy the creative process. Juna mean I really really enjoy. Why do I reading joy collaborate and people like pat or Stephen Mizao all these great people that a I'll still unlucky? The people I work with US still very passionate about what they do and really get off on. Whether it's just as the enjoy you know we still enjoy the process of working with a modeling creating them in creating a fantasy see and I think I'm very lucky to be around very creative people. I you know to work with pat every day you know is is amazing. Because she's amazing what she does and with both British and so we have the same kind of references is and we come from similar kind of backgrounds and so he's you know this is sort of like we get each other to mean and then I to admire how far she's taken her craw demean uneven every day the silver faces that amazing. Yeah it could be so wrong. But then they're so right and I think you know she's probably anyone can do pull that off. Yeah what about like bringing new blood into into the mix like. Are there people that you haven't worked with yet that you want to or do you ever worry that you're comfortable in your bubble of your people that you like. Is there someone you'd want to work with that you. I haven't had a chance to. I am always listen. You know I don't think the fashion industry stops and ends with people like you know in my era wiped on when I look young people that doing that way and there's a whole new wave of new headdresses makeup partisan photographers and designers. That a doing the thing and they're really doing in their way and they could own. I couldn't do it in that way because they're doing in their way way now. What about designers? Are there any young designers. You're like oh I want to do their show. Yes there is but if I WANNA do is because I like it and then that probably probably doing good already. Do you know what I mean so I feel like I probably wouldn't be able to do it as good as them because I yeah somewhere like say the eighteen at back cry but I lit the eighty so to me it slightly a pastiche era yet. But they think it's still they think is kind of fresh because exists. Girls Talk if you were once the first time. You don't get to go around in a different way when I do due eighties way. I kind of know it because I was there. Yeah if you're twenty five you have a fresh take on it because you weren then you see in a different way so you can never look. I never WANNA look jumping lighted it better that you know because you're doing in a fresh tate the same way in the nineties you were probably doing the seven. Yeah it was redone yes exactly And so have you ever thought about moving beyond hair. Have you ever worked with any other art forms arms or is there anywhere you want to expand your art to. I always feel like you'd be a sculpture on the side. Golden fine artist I view exhibitions at the met. Just you know you know they do the cost me out for me. Oh you did the hair for the McQueen. Exhibitor Would McLean Upon One and I did a skop already proud to one and that one was great. Yeah and I I I. She didn't use hair in two of them. Eighty to work with different inform. They'll cool McQueen when there was no hair. Didn't look like so. What was that so I kind of what with mosques? I said what with Alexander McQueen a lot so I kind of knew you his kind of take him beauty and I didn't really feel the I could do it justice the exhibition with has so I kind of what with different kind of have people to create leather and fetish in. It wasn't one hem asking it but it was you know had like a Of Spike coming out the tall and then themselves different. You know there were kind of. They were all kind of Wehrley fetches she someone beautiful summer little bit sort of like macabre but they were they felt they would come post his ascetic of abuse but valley. It'd be better to do in different things so so I use my ascetic Mike kind of balancing but then would work with people that Croft it so you know to. To your point I did work with a different medium And a custom reading joined the pros and it was really nice working with you. Know Commu Ziam all the different people that go into making that thing work you know. It was a challenge and it was It's difficult because you're you're working working with one hundred twenty kind of mannequins knew there were different rooms and you don't get to see it till it's put on so it's trial and error kind of thing you have to kind of design nine it and keep going for meetings and there's different kinds of you know you sat in a room. I you know when you have to pinch him to sign a room with Andrew Bolton. Who's the kind of Chris? In person behind these exhibitions and the head of the exhibition and and a winter and all these different people the voices his in getting that thing done and your voice is well in you know is kind of like. Wow I gotta step up to the play edits a long way from hanging out with David. David being that suburban boy in a school feeding kind of thing I still think. How did I get here? Pinch me moment all the time. Tom Was in China. When I was at the Great Wall we went I went to the great whirlwind morning? How am I in the Great Wall of I think it see me now? I mean there's the most of these things I just saw. I never take it for granted of what this job has allowed me and who I've met through it Junaid. Mo's like why not jaded by. I like to speaking with Anna wintour about hair So you are very private person which I love. You're not you know taking a million instagram's of you like on the toilet or like Cotija sang or read out asleep in beauty. That feels like that's the way people are getting fame now And getting rid of some sort but as we have you in the studio what do people not know about you. Tell us something like what. Are you doing on a Saturday afternoon. It doesn't have to be like sort it just like the the do you have a favorite TV show or you like hooked on like I don't know junk food. No I try not would be a junk food I mean I can. I have to keep away. I probably am on a Saturday afternoon. Like probably preparing dinner. Me Might Partner Dude. I mean I do like cooking. Yeah you going out and doing the shopping and I love that. I don't have a I mean. I don't think my life is Grand Brian. But it's probably granted than other people's but it's not I don't require. Okay where do you shop. This will make the determination of how people can make freaking being out hang out cinderella or something trader. Joe's kind of guy. I do not see you and I think this good. I can't believe how rees motech taste at the back of the line with your little basket. Why insurance you know all those kids cookies they have? I bet you'd come out of there and you'd be like I could make out of this. It's like right. We see Marc Jacobs next season. Got Like two buck chuck in the hair. I just liked soup box I love to. I'd I'd like to be on my own so there's is no I like to sew wondering perusal the so the shop and then I kinda liked to go home and you know cook it slowly and I find it really realized I mean work does take a long time like opted the count in our get back. I've got a cat I feed here. Momentous question was about the cat okay. Let's move on okay. You have a cat I do. I know about the cat. I think from like a photo shoot or may be instagram. What's your cat's name name? How old coloring his name's Ned? He's he's five next year and Yeah I do I love having him mean is not easy. Gene Gene. Our ingenious. He's a he's a Jinja strong character he he. I shouldn't read read. Have a cat and mouse a little bit. Mean using your eyes and it'll go home. Yeah cats are babysitter. Okay good good okay. So he's very spoiled when I went to pick him up at the you know shout throw the the the place where my him they said. Do you think you'd better look after him As I drove a carve. Because I think he'll be fine until he has people for that and he has a little He outside cat cat so he goes out on the terrace okay Newton L. Cap flapping. He has out there and he goes and stays next door his friends he should have a play date with justice cat. She's she's GonNa cap friends next door and they come in you know so the social things I love having him I Dunno I love going to the movies movies in the morning. Oh isn't that Dole Jen's I eleven o'clock opening just Satan and his cinemas any two people in or something and you are you happy to go by yourself south yes I love it. What's the movie that you really enjoyed recently? What was the move when see judy? Gone with WICCA in about Judy garland which I think I loved up to renew. I mean. I didn't wish she went to she. Goes Dan Rene New York Mag headline it was something about like. Yeah no she's back or she she left. She's Rene is found. You know she was great. I really liked your movie snack. Order do you order the popcorn and eleven Diana Berry healthy man actually. He's not Tisha she doesn't like people eating or a combat the smell of popcorn around. Okay did you bring a water or like nothing. Awards number like a like a combat people chat before in Charleena. We're here for the movies. Peer Haven in the trailers start chatting. Must Stop people still think. It's like texting time. Jared time. No it's IT'S GONNA come down for the thank. You don't know if you should shish them that's so funny. Okay so no popcorn for you. But we're GONNA get him. I'm like I honestly gifts. We are not productwise. You've been working with Redken for years so I know there's lots of that in your kit. But what are some of your favorites these days as you mentioned red commit spin a huge actually pov my solve latter career I say latter. We've been in partnership now being within fifteen years which is just we should point out especial in this industry because usually it's like they worked together for three years moving on and ask the next hottest person on track. They've been really loyal to me and they've we're at such we've got they've got great so supportable why too. I couldn't really I've had a you know to work with the sort of big brand and you know an Redken to Loro brand. You know to work with such a big brand and then being so supportive myself like alternative Idear bt Dt. Yeah I know so so to sort of understand and for me to understand them. It's been like a real of learning to be understand about sort of you. You know 'cause I I work with them on product about it men and I work with them on this of campaigns and pitches you know ice then have to turn my head to a how ahead dresser out of New York might want to see fashion portrayed so I have to then get an another head space as we are is really kind of a challenge in an a good challenge to me And then say develop products and that very good at picking up on if they see me using product maybe not. There's will mixing up a COUPLA products backstage to to create a product that they will start developing that product. You want Grittier hairspray. Okay fine grit in your hair down before so dry shampoos and so text rising sprays they would see me sort of putting sort of powders and spray together a making this attack extra and out of that we developed the wind blown and Surtax rising spray. And you know when they sing. Wet looks and shine than we sort of start developing products that they they see it being used for more than one season to me but and conditioner in the hair. What do we do so you know? That's the kind of and that's a the creative side of it though developing that is fine and you got to play with all different sort of stuff and Yeah it's been a great and an ongoing thing so we have some things in the future that West to work on. What's in your hair right now? It's just like gradient usually what is it by have stayed flat let triple pule Triple take That he too which is a new has O'hare got one on the Kashi. The Protestant products very exciting on our triple pule thirty two Lou said this is all newsy. Love the names they come up with. You make great products like giving pulling numbers. Yeah so this is Yeah triple pure thirty. Two is neutral Newt to non not non fragrance into neutral fragrance has hasn't gotten that bad whiff too when you backstage. Oh my God L. Net clouds everywhere find has going all this. This is much appreciated so Why did I tell you about because you brought us at present about your so at the moment you know? When a new product comes out is my go-to product? Yeah I mean and and has sprays A. It's a product that people often sort of like dismisses. This is old fashioned with that but I actually kind of easy in most styles even if his natural I might spread out my hand. Run it through the heads. It's like you know I suppose like chef check when he's just finished his something he sprinkles a bit a little. Now Don see-sawed at the end zone ever like you know. Lemon zest is a little Triple pure thirty. Two two is a true finish and you smelled gorgeous when you got in the elevator right. At least you see. Where would you wear a Veda shot? Shot crushed to one of their oils. From like there is a I think it's called a vaporizer a stray rat. It's a mess. Yeah they're like aromatherapy purpose. Yes everybody's just chill around you. I don't know it's like I was just saying how nice the smells all bad and mean and I loved him. Yes Yeah Drouin. One Woke Weirdo. You have had a very long day a very packed schedule we appreciate you fitting us in rare conversation You gotta get home to Ned. A waiting wining fight. It's time to raise a WAND NOT GONNA kick it off immediately ready. Go Okay I'm so excited about this product because I got a compliment a compliment that means raising okay. If people are if people are telling you you look good. You're doing something correct. So Jen you noticed that my hair are has been looking more vibrantly so vibrant. I got my hair. Colored in the middle of September is growing fast. 'CAUSE you're pumping out those growth hormones. It is crazy crazy. It's like I don't even have to use sugar bear. I got really means since you've practiced long right. Yeah so The colors been looking really good again. It's been like by the time we listen to this. I was like almost two months or bay. Power drops color preservation booster of. Got To hand it to you. you it's a treatment sarum. You're supposed to put it on damp hair but I forgot so I just kind of a little bit of it. It's a little dropper thing few drops it's a colored serum it's it's not a color serum. It's your helps like protect your color. An obviously I think it boosted a little. There was no tin tonight. It looks really good. Oh I thought you just meant it was like wow no redder and has antioxidants amino acids and has vitamin C. And how much you guys like that. keen watt protein bioflavonoids optic basically a little healthy hair cocktail. But this one they have a few serums they have like one for like strength or one for shine or something like that. I just pay the Colorado because I have to tell you I love what my hair looks after getting colored but frigging hate eight getting my hair colored three hours yet. Wow yeah well. That's kind of it all. It's it's insane when we think about it long it takes to color your hair. I mean and so you're just a single process. Manager highlights our triple process to bleach blonde. So serum is not tinted but it makes your color any color. Gosh now it's not cheap. This is fifty dollars but we're talking to org is smells probably delicious. Okay you gotTa Pay Orbit You gotTa pay you got you want or bay. Hey you pay this new tagline combing good. I will go the other end and I'll give us a bargain with that. Okay no orbit more more. pull the cord research sir. What's up mine's only nine dollars? Forty nine that's handy. Okay maybelline these names. Are you ready super stay ink Crayon in Lipstick Matt Long wear lipstick makeup. I don't know why we are say. Hey we don't have room for all those words. Let's make a deal. I think the worst remember our superstar super stay in Crayon. It is a Chubby like it's an in- crown. Actually that name really says what it is. It's a twist up Chubby Crayon with a really pigmented demented Matt Lipstick and I spent doing the grunge thing this fall very grungy. She's wearing like a little league. beanie like an army green beanie. Some dark lipsticks and leather. How will the dark lipstick is one of these? This shade name is settled for more. Okay all right. Let's I like it. I'm leaning in. I'm settling for more in this light. You look like Sheryl Sandberg the liquid so the the Liquid Matt Lip colors that are in the tube I feel like they get crackly when they dry creamy dry matt to go on it stays that same texture. I think it's the flash off of all tiles and some of the liquid lipsticks. That are really pigmented like this that then dry out my lips even more so even though this is a mat it goes on the way. It's going to be like. Yeah I know you're just not going to evolve into some crushing little prudence in it. Yes and it doesn't split and crack so when it wears. I don't know for some reason. It doesn't where you can go all the way it'd be vinaigrette salad for lunch it'll disappear a little bit but has really long wear and the colors. There's really even and I liked that. It like you know my lip line sort of traveling around. These days is a chocolate brown years. Yeah so it has a nice sharp point so you can get a really precise ISO- matt lip is important very important like I think with any other lipstick. Creamy glossy is okay. If it's not perfect Matt you need it to be perfect so settle settle for. You gotta be accurate. Are you still trying to plummy wine. Shade Nine Bucks is is your money for war. Bay GotTa Pay. 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Get Silver in your Skincare!!

Birthday Skin

26:06 min | 10 months ago

Get Silver in your Skincare!!

"Hello and welcome back see but they skin we celli names and we are your fav- skincare podcast with telling you that we are your favorites written Yeah so yeah allies have skin blemish keeper overnight serum one over the long lengthy of exaggerate name is I'm trying to go I've kind of seen it knocking about for awhile now especially plastics and stuff it's a bit more high tech than what we used to feel like I can't breathe without your hair in it like even even the noise of my lips touch in inbetween so many people are asking probably thinking what is mean clued it so Colloidal Sofa I'm going to read this and those monitor sentences I may smart little psycho listen when I talk well I mean the audience members can decide Ciampino yes right well guys it's not it's not called COLLOIDAL silver for year but it could have been like an extra Sony than you can do the salaries sit back relax sit back and listen to my own with sounds well I know that you have a product with colloidal silver on tune in the you're not gonNa Watch out attention on this episode is GonNa be very good sorry guys today's episode we are going to talk about Colloidal Selva you came to me with this identity you know did focus on yeah and he's still on well shall we get into aims instead of a taking people away for more actually talk about and in right you know what everyone who's in just no I'm learning to be fair that except to say it's going to be the opposite way around because I'm completely baffled by next always says and it really makes me laugh because of no is she says it all I was I wa it she was like it's a word she uses to describe them invoice of a dead obvious reason no that you wrote is a term used to describe a mixture of silver ions and Nano particles in the last with silver in it well it got me Oh is it actually silver Oh my God here we go which you're it's highly auntie microbe I'll do this right so essentially yeah tell you tweaks app let's talk to them let's do you want to read the first sentence nano-tech yes how again colloidal COLLOIDAL colloidal over she says it on my time and like I've just been listening to you talk all the time Oh my God oh so God his day and mildly friend. Jade listens Schramm this one with Charlie this went on for about five minutes and she was like this are no one essentially shouldn't yeah we just pretend that lives I don't know anything about percent in is as I kind of don't want to be around the Bush don't really WANNA lives people make Canosa from the adult so I just tell them what it is is highly antimicrobial which means that it's really good at killing bacteria so different types of bacteria things like E. coli and stuff aw and quickly tap essentially into a thesaurus you different words essentially what it does is so colloidal Silva actually used to be used instead of antibiotics so obviously ninety Oh the I've noticed that it was just an acknowledgment okay well let's get back to it and I'm not going to say essentially all Webuye Okay August did you ever do you have I don't know stuff a Caucasus it's kind of like E. coli is just a different type of food poisoning so confront names I mean on truly approximately what else can I use originally permanently none of these right something yes so basically it's just the type of bacteria I said basically sink to essentially by beauty it wasn't a criticism it was just feel I was no no no not at all it was just a mere is really good for ensuring that any bacteria on the skin that might be causing any infections oil acne is dead and gone if you skin cells and oil nc it creates an environment where this type of bacteria really thrives and it can grow and multiply quickly I'm going to try and pronounce it with acne and this product or something with colloidal silver will be really good for you because there were a few studies that were done tick also kills bacteria but as you'll be aware because of all of these ridiculous adverse go on TV around winter time we can build resistance to antibiotics which is you can still buy it so the disclaimer on this episode is every put it on your skin typically just don't ingest it because of oxygen and it's just kind of a bit grim so yes you you wanna be having some form of colloidal silver if you suffer acne so what does it do and how does it work I'm not GonNa say Topical Selva Essentially Thea Soroush you've richly essentially written in the nose as well yeah I know okay I didn't realize I like the word so much twice twice Oh God okay can get bit they scan drinking game honestly listen listen to our survey essentially everybody knows not do it I know well no it's not a bad thing just trying to figure out whether it will work full browns to then kind of take on into product floors and GonNa look I'm not gonNA look I don't ruin the surprise take on the show I wish y'all so am like we've come to the conclusion that obviously we'll just go home to all and go off a purge anyway go right so colloidal silver not good no no no because it means that we just have to find different antibiotics every year and one day that's just not going to be left so civil was actually what's showed that there was a type of bacteria that lives on your skin that it lives in the oily region of polls so basically when Paul becomes suffocated and blocked by really killing bacteria but you have bacteria everywhere this bacterium skin now and like I said some good somebody's gotten bad but it's really good colloidal silver bill and those a study that I mean you might WanNa skip ahead fifteen seconds on your lap at this point that had rust in on ooh thing and so using colloidal silver kills all of that bacteria so when you've obviously killed all of that bacteria makes it easier to he effective but I think that was a long time ago I don't know I don't have a link to the Nasty little experiment it worked the way that they tested it was they rob and then compared to been been same way to see whether it awesome yeah so the propia antibacterial will thrive in an environment where there's originally and then antibiotics found out and they swapped the move a bolt it's really really bad to ingest colloidal silver it's just not good for you we'll go into in a little bit and there's a funny little Fox that relates to something hilarious she said maybe six months ago really yeah you take off the top layer of skin which means that that skin underneath which isn't used to be in kind of out in the opener is votes expose last word does have some pre medical uses I you know I love asides paper aims absolutely shucks I read a really read a disturbed really would you say all the time essentially in Webuye whereby he say whereby you are used to say that before known you know say for Beth a colloidal silver is really good for burns so if you've got activists really good and is really good because when you burn yourself so it would have been the so if you are concerned about having some kind of skin infection than a colloidal silver will help and like I said not a negative thing maybe this is a good thing maybe every time I say essentially we have to have shove water and then we'll just see P- hydrated there we go that's game it's really good for amphion conjunctivitis in newborns they use quite quite commonly so this really like essentially go over the next three episodes I'm GonNa Watch it I'm GonNa Watch she faced her bright reddish in trying to think of a different word and trying to write colloidal silver yeah I think it was like I was saying this is good for Ben Scott right knee and it was used as an anti it's called propane oh actually it's not too bad pro peony Bactariane propia Ni ropy on sounds Italian does what would you like some propia news it can be it's really proud to infection and get in bacteria that really shouldn't be there and seek an infected when when he goes green and goals shared an experien- up and she's already got a mortgage experience was wet weather and I am absolutely not saying that is way should test anything but this is a test that was done I felt sick and I'm not gonNA lie a well to a little bit not swimming pool around yes from that they did find out that it was my experience this is tended to a real mom conversation I'll just pick up my experien- monthly payment 'cause you can pace it you can check it obviously it was an infection so I wish I'd have known about silver then but what I went to the doctor they're like we can give you into politics for it and that got rid of it winds plus days that kind of thing on skin infections so dramatic when I had that those spots along with Joel Line it was probably something to do with this and that test on animals on the not necessarily associated with Brahms like they're not testing their products animals they ebbing experiment I don't want to know and to be fair that there's a lot of experiments that adults disgusted herself from twenty six for God's sake tell me the fact about six months ago Oh that was that was it in Bamako the Front Melissa was everyone else was all getting pissing and we would just sot in and after about five minutes I realized we were talking about credit so this is a little passage 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All The COVID Questions You're Too Afraid To Ask Ft. Dr. Mike

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All The COVID Questions You're Too Afraid To Ask Ft. Dr. Mike

"Haiti's de Listeners. This episode is tomorrow with guest. Dr Mike was recorded on Wednesday march. Eighteenth of things may have changed with the corona crisis since then ever all of the advice from Dr Mike is still relevant to keeping you safe. Insane this crazy time as you know. We're all stuck at home recording remotely so the audio may get a little shaky at times so just please for gas for any imperfections. Were really trying here. So onto the episode Betcha Media Presents. WanNa lose three pounds yet night dunkeld may Dan Fodio Diet starts tomorrow endorphins endorphins. Make you happy happy. People don't shoot their husbands with hosts daily Lean Cooperman. Jolly Sammy Fish by birth. Hello welcome to diet starts tomorrow. I mean lean on Saturday and we have an amazing and yes we are recording remotely again. We're trying to improve every recording and working from home. But today we have an amazing guest We have Dr May Dr Microsoft's. He's a board certified family medicine. Physician in New York. City is three point. Five million followers on instagram popular youtube channel or five million subscribers. And you guys have probably seen him in a lot of our videos. So welcome Dr Mike. Thank you for the very warm welcome. I feel even warmer nowadays. When we're all quarantined inside our homes do you feel warmer or do you feel like do you feel people are more connected or less connected. I feel the fact that we do. We've participated in the social distancing situation so well that it shows solidarity so I feel the warm yeah billed as the way actually. I feel like we're just going about our lives kind of like thinking about whatever our priorities are and now I got more in touch with people calling like family more so I mean not. This is not a good situation at all but at least that's happening so I mean it's pretty impressive to be able to look out my window. I live on forty second street. In a high-rise and d'arno people in the street there are no cars out. I've never seen it so empty. So the fact that we're able to organize this effectively it's honestly surprising to me but reassuring that we can make something like this happen. Yeah I went for actually went for a run in the park this morning and there were quite a few people out but I think people were trying to stay isolated for each other like if you people stop and talk to each other but they'd be standing like comically far apart so that is at least a good sign. I had a lot of people. Think this is like Sci fi movie where if you go outside you're going to get the virus. It's not like that You can be writing. You can be walking your dog. In fact it's encouraged to go outside. Obviously don't go outside into Times Square where there's thousands of people all around you but if you WanNa go to your local park and it's you know six feet apart from other people you're fine that's something turn time square is a desert so Elliott melts about. Yeah he looks like a scene of. I'M SAM or legend. Not I'm seventy very different very good both good so while we're while we're on that of it being okay to go outside can we? Let's dive into the question One thing just because this is sort of on topic. One thing that I read in the past few days is that people are now saying that the virus is airborne so could you clarify what it means for Varsity airborne and what precautions that do would have to take get knowing that now from a practical standpoint all it should mean is that you limit your exposure to crowded places because when we say airborne we don't mean that does viruses traveling across the air? And if someone sneezes on the first floor of my building. It's now going to fly in the air and get everyone contaminated That's not how it works when we say airborne we're talking about heiress allies virus particles. Meaning that literally the virus when you sneeze when you cough. It hangs in the air for a period of time. The longest that we have seen is three hours in experiments so basically what can happen and again. This is like very hypothetical and scientific and it hasn't been proven that it actually gets people sick is of someone sneezes in a room indoors and then you walk into that room thirty minutes later. It's possible that you'd be exposed to the virus through the air because the germs have tied. They actually hang on into the air for a period of time. But that's not something we should be concerning ourselves over. That's more Something that we need to think about in healthcare settings when we're treating patients who have this virus to make sure that we don't contaminate the entire hospital less so for us to deal with on a daily basis. So can you just explain how like if that's the situation and and people are able to go for a run or walk the dog or something like that? How is it not possible that like say your mouth is open like while you're walking around that it wouldn't just like kind of fly directly into your mouth again? The the study that I'm talking about that found the three hour. Timeframe was indoors outdoors. The Sun is world's natural disinfectant because of its UV rays so the fact that you're outside data ready decreases the life span of the virus. We haven't seen a study of how long it lives outdoors but I'm confident with wind with the humidity levels the temperature changes. It's not gonNA have the stability that it has indoors so that's not something you could treat. You should concern yourself with About being outdoors in fact when we see places like San Francisco order a shelter in place Condition for for people. They say don't go outdoors. They don't say don't go outdoors at all. They say absolutely go for a walk. Absolutely go to the park absolutely. Walk your dog. It's about just limiting gatherings it's limiting why you're going outdoors. It's not to go outside and just hang out in loiter on the street because then a lot of people will start doing that simultaneously. Now you have crowding. Then that becomes an issue so this isn't the sci-fi movie no need to panic alert anxious all that good stuff rates enough you tell us also just like give us some context about your day to day as a doctor in a provider. Are you working in a hospital Do you or do you see patients at private practice. I see patients as part of Atlantic Medical Group. One of my offices is in Overlook Medical Center Hospital in Summit New Jersey. The other offices in Chatham Family Medicine also New Jersey. Both offices are working limited hours just because we're trying to figure out what to do with patients who have mild symptoms currently. We're trying to shift. All those visits to tally. Health visits where we actively have doctors feeling. These calls giving guidance to patients sending prescriptions. If need be and then if they're really sick and needs further care we send them to either an emergency room or an urgent care facility that has proper isolation rooms now as you can imagine the trickiest part of all this if you have a patient walk into our office and we don't know that they're sick with cove in nineteen and we find out that they're sick later into the visit. That's really problematic because now my entire office has potentially been infected my staff has potentially been infected and then they may need to be quarantined. Shut the whole practice that that is why anyone with mild symptoms were directing way from our practice. Anyone that has an appointment for something like a checkup. We're saying let's push this and see what happens with the virus. Anything elective were pushing away. Only urgent visits that are non ill meaning non upper respiratory viral symptoms were taking and the severe symptoms were treating in their -mergency room however we are in the process of setting up Some alternative testing sites like they have in Colorado. Where you pull up. Get a swab done. Get tested for the virus and we could send it out and get results in a couple of days actually probably four days closer to for his work in a city where people are not driving. Yeah I don't know how that would work in New York City in New Jersey. We obviously have the flexibility of making that happen. I will say that because there's so cars doubt right now. I'm sure there are locations. Whether it's in a park area that we can have a drive thru. Set up like this usually. It's at a giant parking lot setting I don't know where we have that in New York City but I I could see that happening in the next days The biggest limiting factor in this initially was testing kits. Now we have more of those. We have more labs performing the test but now personal protective equipment. Those n ninety five masks. The specific type of Massa doctors need to wear in order to not get sick if they're dealing with a patient who potentially has the virus. We don't have enough of those and the federal government has been really slow to get those masks in fact yesterday what. I spent the day doing because yesterday's today that I feel my youtube videos. I actually went on a mission to try by fifty thousand dollars worth of these masks to donate to my hospital because my hospital can find them but you know being someone that knows some people that know some people that may have some residual masks which tried to go out and buy these mask and I think today we should be picking. You know several thousand of these masks to be able to help my hospital. Essentially stay open functional. And it's crazy that I have to do that that we don't have the federal government stepping in getting supplies. We need I mean yeah. I my husband's a nurse practitioner in a hospital in New York City. And he he said half of his team like has to be quarantined because they came in because he works in trauma so the the patients that come in aren't necessarily coming in for corona but could also have it and so half. The team has to quarantine themselves because they're not sure if they have it or not in could continue spreading in who sang that apparently the CDC originally said that Surgical masks are sufficient. But really it's because they didn't have enough to get it so it's just a really crazy scenario over there like not enough providers treating patients because half of them are home now or teaming and it's just it's just crazy the things he's texting me. Well that's that's the scariest part of all of this. It's not so much that this virus is going to get us all sick and we're gonNA suffer serious consequences. That's it's really gonNA affect those over the age of sixty five those with serious medical conditions. it's not really even affecting children under the age of Ted. It's not spreading. If a woman is pregnant it's not spreading to her fetus. At least we're not seeing that spread in the initial research but we are seeing is huge stresses being placed on the medical community in hospitals to the point where we won't have enough beds if it spreads fast enough. And that's why the social distancing staying at home is so so important this virus which unique about is it infects. Many people very quickly. It's more infectious than the flu on average. If someone gets the flu they will only spread it to one other person for this virus still on average spend two three people so it spreads very quickly and because of that imagine the entire population of New York City. Eight million people are to get sick. Yeah Okay let's say. The severe cases are ten percents. That needs serious care. We don't have enough beds to treat all those people and think about all the people that would come in as trauma cases like you mentioned. They would need to go somewhere. Where would they get care if there's actively all these beds being taken up by covert nineteen patients? So we need to shelter in place. We need to practice social distancing so that we can slow the spread of this virus. Make sure that if people are getting it they're getting it slowly recovering and the healthcare system can manage with those cases. He also said that big problem is the amount of time it takes for the results to come in and so like all the patients who are waiting to find out like the the providers have to kind of they don't know what to do with around those patients and it takes a long time so it's that's also like another layer of the problem. Yeah absolutely I mean I've had patients before it's gotten this bad that had a viral condition. Who knew what it was. We would test them for strap for flu. Both will be negative and they would ask what what should they do now and I would say go home according to yourself because you might have this virus and that was at the point where we just didn't have testing kits and I was telling patients to quarantine themselves that may or may not have the virus in like it's crazy to say to someone. Hey don't leave your house for two weeks just on the win. But that's what we had to do because we didn't want this virus to continue spreading and I'll tell you what the reality of the situation is right now that the cases are spiking especially here in New York City. They're like this is the most cases we've had Oman. If we really tested people from the beginning the cases would be ten twenty thirty fifty times higher than what they are. Now I would venture to guess said there's probably tens of thousands of people who already had this virus and cleared it so it's pretty crazy to know how much we don't know this episode is brought to you by. 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I saw that a place like South Korea where really just in South Korea where they have universal testing able to slow it down much more effectively than when they're just testing people with mild or or who are showing symptoms. So do you know if we're making progress? There will ever have universal testing the biggest challenge. Testing is important for us to know what's going on but as far as patients go. Let's say you test and you don't have the virus that doesn't mean you should now go outside and think you're okay because you can catch the virus five minutes later and be as symptomatic in not knowing still be spreading it The real value in testing to make sure that we really warranty people who are very sick. those who have symptoms their main drivers of this pandemic in South Korea? They had a little bit of an advantage. Because when SARS was around the first SARS virus they were close to China. They right away kicked into high gear into developing strategies to combat SARS. We weren't so much affected by SARS so we didn't have the amount of the huge headstart that they had been battling a virus of that sort because this virus is very similar to ours. That's why we call it. Stars cove to Because they're part of the same family as far as where we go necks. Were working on faster turnaround times. The idea is to get to a point where we can do a test in twenty four hours We're getting close to that. That's going to be really promising. There are some reports of test coming out of the Philippines. That can be done in twenty minutes. The problem with a test like that is you want it to be very very well. Verified to be accurate. The last thing you want to do is to do a test. That is not sensitive enough to pick up mild cases. Tell PEOPLE THERE. Okay and then get all the doctors and nurses exposed to the virus so working on making it faster. We definitely have more kits available to real rate limiting step. Here is where to do the tests because again if we just have a massive influx of patients come into our office and we don't have equipment for all of them and for all of us we would have to shut down our whole office and now it'd be very problematic so once we figure out these drive-thru situations on a mass scale. That's when you're gonNA see the numbers of diagnosis. Really shoot up right. So I'd say the number one question we've been we've gotten as like. How long is this going to be Obviously sort of impossible to predict? But how long do we have to socially isolate for Annemasse scale? How long bite this last and I've also read that. There may be like a resurgence after people sort of like loosen up the social distancing or the quarantining is not a possibility and hot. Like what's your best estimate or just like educated right now in that mode. No who has the virus who had the virus. It's impossible to give an educated guess without full on just guessing and picking a random number. I will say what's promising to me. What keeps me optimistic. Is that in China. Right now yesterday. For example only one person caught the virus in China one person in a single day. That's their lowest count that they've had since this whole thing started so the fact that they were able to get it under control is really promising and hopeful that we can do the same thing here. I was worried about the fact that would people stay home if they're ordered to. What would the economy do if that were to happen? And right now we seem to be managing that we have to take a day by day as it's an evolving situation and learn from each situation like right now. I don't know how many people have it. But once these testings facility start kicking into high gear and we get a better sense of. Who has this virus? How do we keep them? Do we convert the hospitals in time to have more ICU? Beds we can handle demand if this happens in rapid succession. We can see this resolved sooner rather than later and the biggest thing that I wanna find out and this is what research is ongoing is for a potential treatment. There is a medication called reservoir. That's in trials here in the United States with National Institute of Health. It's an antiviral medication that prevents the virus from oral lease interrupts the virus from replicating within our bodies because the way that this Kobe nineteen buyers works or any virus works is it gets into your body it gets into a cell and then it uses your cells inner workings to start copying itself and then it spreads throughout your body. So with this medication would do. It would interrupt that process and by interrupting process. You hopefully mitigate the complication rate which means other infections pneumonia death all of that. This medication is now in a trial and the preliminary results are very promising that it's working very well and we hope that continues because if we were to get a medication similar to what we have for the flu called Oseltamivir Tamiflu. It's the brand names. That would go a long way in helping patients. Not only stay healthy. If one of their friends has it because it would prevent them from getting it but it also decrease the complication rate decreasing the strain on our hospitals. Do we have a sense of how long that might? It might take for it to get into like production that it could be widely available and actually be a solution. The company that makes that medication is called Gilead. And they've ramped up all it's funny because it's not approved yet but they're already ramping up production on a huge scale to be able to meet the demand once it is. Fda approved medications already been used on a compassionate use basis. A compassionate use is basically what patients so sick and we have no other venues we try experimental treatments that are still under research like this one and the results have been promising there as well so hopefully. I would put it in a matter of months as opposed to the vaccine which would be at earliest earliest late next year. Though I think this is really what's on the horizon. That's GonNa make a huge difference if we were to see the resurgence that you're talking about later this year in the fall off we will have that medication available to it at the best news. I heard saw. I think the best news is. There's like eighty thousand cases that have already recovered and are doing great posts virus. I think that's also really promising. So right okay Do you know do we know yet. If it's possible to get reinfected after you've had it. Yes that's another piece of research. Were working on generally speaking when you get a virus your body not only fights off the virus but also creates a memory of how to fight off that buyers for example if you were to get the chickenpox once in a lifetime occurrence. You're not getting chicken pox again If you were to get the measles vaccination exit ninety eight percent covered for the rest of your life other viruses like the flu especially because it mutates so often you get it and then you can get it next season again. So we don't know how long been for this virus is GonNa last just because this virus is so new that being said if you were to get the virus you definitely have some immunity. The question is for long. And how quickly does this virus mutate into a new strain? That can reinfect you later because we keep saying this is the corona virus corona buyers. There are many different corona viruses. Out there in fact you and I have probably had this crow virus before the common cold is caused by a corona virus thirty percent of the time so this is a very specific corona virus called SARS cove to and the question is how fast does it mutate into different strains to then causes to get sick. And how serious are these traits? Perhaps it mutates into a weaker strain. That doesn't require so hospitalizations or is not a severe. Only time will tell to sentence. So let's say it just let we're talking about like kind of the average person who's not sick doesn't feel symptoms is trying to socially distance doing all the things that we're supposed worked being told to do. How do we go about like our day to day? How do we know about Grocery shopping or Going to the pharmacy to buy stop. We have dogs. I know you said you can walk around and that's okay but what we're getting food deliveries in New York City. Like how what is what does precaution look like for that. And should we be wearing masks like? Can you advise us on day to day? I would avoid buying masks because this is personal protective equipment that we need in the hospitals and we're desperately running short of these masks because people are buying them for protective use for their own self. Those surgical masks what they're good for is for patients to wear when they are coming in coughing and sneezing our offices to limit the spread of that virus. You wearing that surgical mask only gives you a marginal benefit to protect yourself from the virus and the way that I see people use them they put them on. They fixed themselves on their face. They adjust the masks. They touch their face after touching the front of the mask that makes the whole situation even worse. Because that's the exact opposite of what you should be doing. So I generally don't recommend wearing those masks unless you're sitting you're trying to prevent your cough and sneeze from traveling certain distances washing your hands often often for at least twenty seconds with soap and water is number one if a sync is not available hand. Sanitizer is a second option. I know that's getting really expensive. days so. I don't know if that's feasible for most people and then something very simple to do is if going to be going out touching elevator buttons do so with either a tissue your elbow something that's not. GonNa make contact with your face later on because the the second most common way to get this virus outside of getting the droplets into your mouth is to get it onto your fingers. First and then make contact with your face accidentally later on but by touching with your elbow your hip all that you're decreasing that spread if you never touch your face psych. Your mouth your eyes and ears. Are you like safer like? Is that really kind of like the number one frontline because if yeah go ahead the number one front-line is to get it from a direct sneeze or cough or interaction with another person that respiratory droplets spread directly onto your mouth. The second is surface contamination. So you touch something with your hand get on your hand and then get introduced to by touching your face. The third is actually called fecal oral route and we see patients that have this virus that when they use the rest drew. The virus actually lives in the bathrooms because it it lives inside your gi tract as well very low risk of that spread. But that's why we're recommending if you're sick and you're quarantine you should really be the only one using your bathroom and not sharing it with other people because then that could spread the viruses. Well how does it spread through the bathroom? If you're like like how does that work will remember. These are tiny tiny tiny particles that we're talking about so if you use the bathroom Number two then you flush little particles get aerosolize every time you flush the toilet so they get into the air and then boom you can get the virus to spread. I know it sounds funny but this is absolutely true in this accident. Sammy's question that I want to go back to the grocery shopping because I have to go grocery shopping. Literally the next after this episode So so people were saying it's respiratory right but but it can get through your eyes and if we can get through your eyes are skin is very poor. It's can not go after a skin. Can you explain just kind of science behind that you're saying it's respiratory disease right but it could go and so we're covering our faces so because we're protecting our nose and her mouth but people are also saying that you have to protect your eyes? Don't touch your eyes up through that but is technically don't all of us have like minor cuts all over. Our skin like different Like our body. Our skin is porous just is. Is it possible to get it that way? I don't know if that's a silly question. It's it's not a silly question. If you have a wound and someone sneezes. Can you get sick? It's certainly possible that being said is that how the virus is going to spread within our communities. No the huge huge like for example. If I'm sitting in a room with someone. Who has the virus? What's more likely that they're going to get the virus into my car on my elbow or they're going to get into my mouth that's constantly moving air. In and out way way way way were likely into my mouth so the situation while feasible maybe from an anatomical or physiological standpoint. It's not something that we need to talk about on a grand scale and of Irish camp. Penetrate your skin if you have normal healthy skin our new safe if you are the truly self isolated. Are you safe from getting it? If you're truly self isolated and you're not touching your face in your washing your hands consistently. Yeah I mean again. It's not a sci-fi movie so if let's say you like hunker down you don't leave your house at all. You can't get okay when we come home from being outside. Should we be change? Our clothes should should be washing our hands. Absolutely the first thing you should do right aways wash your hands if you're unpacking groceries after unpacking the groceries. Wash your hands like you. Really have to be vigilant. If you're touching anything from outdoors or think about it this way if you're outdoors and you're touching something on yourself like your cell phone. You should also remember to disinfect. Your cell phone as well and I think apple juice released proper way to do that so I think you can check on apple's website. Oh good look terrific grocery question should we be like Lysol ing our groceries because they've been also touched by many people in the grocery store? I think that you should wash your hands. I don't think you need to Lysol the groceries down. Someone delivers take out. Should I be? I've been clorox by being anything that enters this house so like the grocery the takeout bags. I'm like I might even stop ordering take out you don't need you don't need to stop ordering takeout okay. So when they take out gots here. Let's say we don't have contact with the person because seamless now has contact Delivery but should we be like like white big been the containers? I think what you should do. You should avoid touching the handles of the packages touch from alternate areas If you'RE GONNA be opening any kind of container try to wash your hands before you eat once you eat and the food is out on your plate. You're fine and you've already washed your hands and if you're eating out of a container let's say that someone else package you can eat and then as soon as you eat wash your hands again. It's not going to magically come off the container Like nose or mouth right you have to be the carrier for is the risk of food preparation assuming do all those things. Do we still have the risk that like the person preparing the food may have the food. Safety administrators of the world have said that. That's not something we should be. Concerned about. Food is heated up to a high temperature to kill viruses and bacteria and temperature that it looks like in order to kill this. Corona virus is a hundred forty degrees Fahrenheit or sixty degrees Celsius. So for example. If you do a high heat cycle in your washing or dryer machines that will kill it. Your dishwasher will kill it. Obviously she put it on an open flame. When you cook you will also destroy it. So we are not overly concerned about speaking of pestilence. Now I been very nervous but also you have to think about like pizzas like people go and like share pizzas with friends. When people take off slices they touch other slices. Pizza acts like solid surface. So you can get it that way Also people talked about dogs. I know you guys love dogs. I have a dog Do I can dogs get it? It looks like the answer is no At but's that's not being set it but that being said you have to think about if your dog outside and your dog is so so cute that everyone wants to pet your dog and now you come home and you pet the dog. Now you whatever germs. They had on their hands. You'RE GONNA get us. This episode is brought to you by Ulta Beauty Ulta beauty twenty one days of beauty event is going on for three weeks now through April fourth. It's beauties biggest event which fifty percent off on must have make-up's end skin care products. It's the best time to try something. New Shop Daily beauty steals one day. Only deals fifty percents off of the must haves from brands like Tar Kylie cosmetics benefit. 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It is their validity to the con- to the the speculation that occurred go in the summer. Or is that just like wishful thinking. It's part wishful thinking part educated. Guess two things happened in the summer. That keeps me optimistic. One is people spend less time indoors and again the Sun disinfecting the outdoors. Great so that they're not everyone's in close proximity getting one another sick Second what happens is it's more humid in the summer and when it's more humid that germ hang time. We talked about. It's less effective so the germs. Don't hang around as long in the air Especially indoors so that will also be beneficial decreasing. The viral spread that being said. It's very possible that the summer may slow down the virus but then come cold weather season later. It can come back. We don't know if that's exactly how it's GonNa play out because who knows how many people have had. This virus are now immune to it. We don't know so we really have to just play it safe and I think with all of these pandemics that we've experienced the lesson that we've learned is before the pandemic you you say doing too much and then after the pandemic you say we should have done more because there's no ever perfect way of handling these things they evolve and you have to make adaptations really really quickly on the go for so since on my total Oxana A lot of people have been asking What should they do if they can't work from home assuming not a healthcare worker But for whatever reason they can't work from home and they need to go to work and they need to commute and you know kind of do all the normal things that like entails. How should that person be like taking precautions in acting in that situation distancing as much as you can from other people during the commute The general rule and it's not a perfect rule but it's a general rule of six feet away from another person. If someone is coughing or sneezing you WanNa get away from them as soon as possible because that is obviously a red flag touching commonly contact surface points like on a subway the railings. Hold a tissue while you do that. Wear gloves because if you're going to wear gloves and I don't mean like surgical gloves leather gloves. Even you're less likely to touch your face with gloves like that so even if you get the gloves dirty you can wash them afterwards. But you're not going to be making contact with your face so whatever you can to decrease your ability to touch the virus and keeping distance away from being able to inhale the virus. That's the best things you can do to protect yourself. That's that's how ball. What about if you do feel like you might have some symptoms? What Very Very Mild. Someone's asking what should you do in that scenario? I mean besides go besides obviously not going to work. Are you know going outside like should you? Can you take advil? She you take tylenol on. What are some things that you can do? Well first things first. You should call your health provider and let them know of the symptoms that you're having and based on our current algorithm. We'll sort of guide where they should go what they should be on the lookout for the number one thing if symptoms start getting worse you should head to your local yard but please call ahead. I. That's really important. As far as symptomatic management it really depends on the person. There was a report that came out from France. That Ibuprofen can somehow make the symptoms of this virus worse. Now it's not clear if this study is correlation or causation. Meaning that were people that were having worst case of the virus taking more ibuprofen or was it. Taking more Ibuprofen led them to have more serious cases. It's unclear but to be safe than sorry. Take Acetaminophen which is a brand name. Tylenol That is a fever. Reducer painter juicer. That can make you more comfortable the. Who says again to be safe than sorry used instead? What would you symptom for you to feel that you think that you need to go to the like as opposed to just staying home and trying to get healthy on your own Very high fevers uncontrollable cough shortness of breath shortness of breath is one of those symptoms that you WanNa get checked out right away because if you get to the point where you need to be on ventilator support at home and you don't have one that's a really bad situation so if you feel like you're shortness of breath is getting worse into each person could mean something different to an elite marathon runner. A walking across the hall. Getting short of breath is a really bad sign but to someone who already has baseline. Copd MAY BE. Getting short of breath can cross. Hall is the norm so it really depends persons. A person what shortness of breath means to you. But if you feel it you call you. Describe your sense to your provider. And they'll be the ones to guide you really. This is open up the way for tally. Health to be on the front lines. I've always been skeptical about telehealth. 'cause I think nothing replaces a visit with the doctor a true physical exam but at a time like this where you have an infectious process widespread. This is a role for telehealth. I had one. More question is kind of topic so say again back to the symptoms that you don't have them. Is there anything you can be taking like emergency or any type of vitamin? Some people are asking to help prevent here. Getting some teams are getting sick. Yeah so immune boosting supplements do not as an interest. I hate to burst. Everyone's bubble and I hate to be that person who is like. Oh no the thing. I was taking that I thought was keeping me safe. Doesn't actually do anything but in reality does it all of these marketing companies. What they do is they find some level of research and they really corrupt it for example if you were to have a vitamin C deficiency. You're low on vitamin C. Which we just don't see unless you have a very rare genetic condition you follow some very obscure diet or as we saw hundreds of years ago you were a pirate that's who would get vitamin C deficiency because they would be ships for so long they would get something called scurvy Taking more vitamin C. Will Not help you. In this scenario Taking zinc will not help you. A lot of people are buying really expensive zinc. Lozenges will not help you. In this scenario there is no evidence of that unless you have again a very rare zinc deficiency which we do not see in the modern world How this came about. Let's take zinc as an example. A study has come out a few weeks ago. Really good study and the title of the study was zinc interrupts replication of novel Corona Virus. Great Title Marketing Person. I'm going to use that title and cells zinc lozenges. However I'm Dr. I read the study within the study. What the find out. They found out that if date inserted zinc into cells because zinc naturally doesn't just enter cells. They found out it. It stops the replication of the virus in order to insert zinc into the cell. The answer created artificial poor for zinc to enter into the cell by taking a zinc lozenges. You are not doing that whole process. You are simply sucking on a lozenge. That's going to get pete out and it's not going to do the work that they were able to do by creating artificial poor so whoever's trying to sell you those things is strictly trying to make money off you or to come off as if they have some novel cure that no one else has told you about. It's not true. Don't spend your money on that especially nowadays. When people aren't going to work they have limited funds. Use Your money elsewhere. So then so if there are no immune boosting supplements. What can we do? Especially now everybody's lost their day to day routine. What can we do to stay healthy natural remedies such as eating like what through their diet or or yeah? I have like four pillars that I think is usually three pillars but I've extended into four. I is really focusing on good quality. Sleep seven to nine hours at the same time. Try avoid taking long naps throughout the day. Because that can interrupt your sleep cycle at night If you get less than six hours of sleep it costs Eur. Natural killer cells. Which are one of your main sources of your immune system by fifty percent? So if you're not sleeping enough you're making yourself vulnerable to this virus. Second eating healthy that means high amounts of fruits and vegetables because there's all sorts of neutra nutrients and chemicals good chemicals like phytochemicals that will help your immune system. Stay in good shape exercise. Just because you're gyms are closed. Does that mean you can't work up a sweat do a program on the TV? Do a program on your iphone. There are countless classes online that you could take for free on Youtube Gopher a long walk. Walk your dog for a longer walk than you normally can So there's definitely ways you can exercise that boost mean system in a healthy way by keeping a balance and the final one is June. Not Engage in bad habits bad habits specifically heavy drinking th really really easy to be like. Oh I'm quarantine. Its wine time. Let's get a few glasses of wine in me. That's really problematic. We've seen certain cells in your body that do not work as well when there's alcohol present again making you vulnerable and if you're going to be drinking alcohol at night that ruins your stages of sleep the progression of the stages of sleep so when you wake up you might sleep the normal amount of hours you might even fall asleep better with alcohol. But you're not gonNA wake up well rested and your immune system is going to suffer. As a result another bad habit smoking get it out of there. It makes you more susceptible to catching viruses because it weakens the layer of the lining of your lungs airways. So you want to make sure that you're following these four pillars of health not to boost your immune system because boosting your immune system to me sounds counterintuitive for example. If you have allergies or you have an autoimmune disease psoriasis or collins. Those are boosted immune conditions where your immune system is working too hard and it's out of lack if you haven't immunosuppressant condition like HIV. That's also really bad. So we want to boost your immune system we want to optimize. It began the Immuno Suppression Situation What about pregnant women what? How does this affect you? If you are pregnant. Should people be trying to get pregnant in the next few well? That's a heavy question should. I'm sure there's GONNA be a lot of babies born out of this quarantine just because when there's nothing to do and all else fails. I feel like love is a good answer Right now as far as vertical transmission goes to explain what vertical transmission is when a pregnant mother has fetus a baby. What's the likelihood of her spreading the virus to the fetus? Based on early research it's reassuring it's not spreading. That's good that being said if you're pregnant that is stressful state for the body and can make you more vulnerable to viruses so it does raise your risk but it's a calculated risk. Meaning if you're okay with that risk and you WANNA have this baby. You should be okay to take that risk every time you cross the street. You're taking a level of risk but you know what that risk is. You know that a car can come not hit the brakes but you accept that level of risk because you want across the street so the same thing goes with pregnancy. Does it? Increase your risk shore because it's stressful state but if you weighed the risk for its benefits for yourself. You're making an individual decision more power to you. See any issues with Pregnant like let's say with delivery rooms and that sort of thing at the healthcare system is really overwhelming. Yeah again another risk. Because you're going to be coming into a hospital where there's illnesses in hospitals One of the main reasons patients always ask why the Doctors WanNa get me at a hospital. When I'm admitted like every day we're like how do we get this patient to go home? The reason why because the hospital has viruses and bacteria. It's all over the place. Yes we do our best to wash your hands. But there's even a name for this in scientific research called nosocomial infections. Is Our infections that you get just by being in the hospital so yes. We want to send people home from the hospital. We don't want them spending times there and especially during outbreaks that makes even more sense so it certainly is a risky time But it's something that we're working on. We're trying our best to protect patients and as a situation of Oz will learn more all right. Well that was so helpful. Is there anything that you feel like? People should know that we haven't touched on hearing not trust sources online even on TV or from certain politicians unless it's a statement made by a reputable organization or health professional. So if you see someone tweeted Oh my God. There's a cure all my God. Don't do this. Or here's the secret. Do not believe it just because it has a lot of likes or re tweets is has been happening with chain letters. Being re tweeted re emailed texted to one another do not believe these things look to the CDC who or your trusted health professional information and nowhere else. 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Do you want to share a deep for we share one from One of the community members I'M GONNA use my win that yesterday. I spent all day trying to secure masks from my hospital and while I may not get the full amount that I want. It looks like today. I will be able to get at least a few thousand masks which will allow us to keep our departments functioning Even the the Obgyn department so if anyone has babies we will be protected. And we'll still be able to keep those departments open. That's great you are literally saving lives. I don't know how we'll be that I'll go with. I'll I'll wait one from from a DSP or sent one in High Sammy Andy. Lean podcast listener and lover from South Africa. My non skill win for the week. I did not feel like going to the gym and was fully about cuddled up in bed and each pancakes when I decided to rather go for a long walk. And listen to this week's podcast episode. It wasn't quite the sweaty gym set. Shut session I should have done but it was definitely the movement. My body needed in left me feeling. Great Things podcast Podcast and making me realize that all my diet related off our normal and I am not alone. It's Nice I like now. Is the time more than ever to kind of keep moving because we can get just stuck like now that we're also much harder in from home. It's like it's hard not to get sucked in. There's a lot of inertia I think with like never really leaving your house and being encouraged to never do so. It's not working out like so much harder. Yeah at least for one Value you go okay. Mine is that I joined cameo to raise money for for world sexual kitchen. We like no the guy who whatever he works some guy who works there and he kind of like asking us to go on but when he asked time instead like you can send people cameos now go to and you can have the money be donated. I said okay so I'm going to be doing that. I got a lot of requests last night. I was really surprised but now it hasn't recall videos. Some of them are like Kinda heavy. Like you know the they're saying that you know why they're sending it to the friends So if you want to send you a cameo by usually the Sami fish by and fifteen dollars gets donated to world central kitchen which is Jose Andres is our innovation that eventually anytime I send you a cameo also nice little message. We'll raise money for world central kitchen as using setting a goal for bunny raising guy. I was thinking maybe like a thousand in two weeks since it's like a team per video at any face. It seems reasonable. I might might set a goal. So we'll see alien. What's yours go. After the fact you know what I might go like tomorrow or something when I see how it goes. my win. I don't know if it's a win yet. Working on it So as I said rusty my husband works in a hospital end. It's giving me a lot of anxiety like I've been nonstop texting Sammy about it you so he obviously has a lot of anxiety about it too. But I'm trying to stay calm and so that's my win. Is that like if if it happens it happens. You know it's more likely for me to get it than a lot of people. It's more likely for him to get in a lot of people so I'm just GonNa go with the flow and you all the precautions I could possibly do. And Yeah that's elite. I love it. I want us to really dig in and love this line. Alert not anxious. I want you to live that example. Thank you I'm got is what I'm I'm doing like I just. I'm just going to go on just doing everything that you every all. Everybody says you should do just take precautions. And he hasn't then we're going to east then we hope. I'm really thinking about him and really everyone who's like I need your. You're on the Front Lines. Like rusty on the front lines of the pandemic. It's really crazy right. You're on the frontlines. Barry was worried about me the other day he was telling me to watch out all. Yes extra cuddly. It's like they know there's a pandemic. The dogs are so lucky like around all the time. Yeah that's true. That's true more bonding time. Will I saw on twitter? Someone put out a thing like activities to do during quarantine one pet your dog to wash your dog three. Say Hi to your dog and it's just like a list of forty things to do with your dog. Here's my dog sleeping on. The floor. Passed out all right so we'll thank you so much for joining us on this episode. Giving everyone the information that they were looking for because there's so much confusion especially on the Internet on instagram. And Yeah thanks so much Dr. My of course thank you for doing this guy's appreciate yes absolutely super formative Larry and if you have more questions for Dr Mike feel free like he said sentiment. Tweed Cinema Diem We're going to be doing social on our channels with you. 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Makeshift Routines

Birthday Skin

32:52 min | 1 year ago

Makeshift Routines

"This is birthday skin. I'm Charlie and Die Mamie. I'm this is a podcast where we try to confusing to skincare a simple as possible every week we will give plenty of tips advice and product recommendations by doing indepth indepth research and speaking to the experts to make sure that what we're telling you is the truth. 'cause let's face it. We're not dermatologist would just obsessed with skincare and you know what I like to think. We have a laugh along Louis so Charles before we start this episode I would like to introduce you all of listeners to opera on new sponsor how excise super exciting so this episode is sponsored by Skin Space and it is a brand new online shop that specializes specializes in Colt and Super Niche Skincare Lebron's super affordable vary affordable and basically it's a website. That's just jump out for Lebron's that you wouldn't find anywhere else which I love because it gives you the chance to find a new brand or new product that you wouldn't know me how the options is Dr say. If you WANNA find your brand new obsession had skin spaced dot com. Hi Aims Hell though wow how how do you own my going to you lately. I've just started grenade. Bob Low bit sugar actually not much sugar. Still Protein didn't know I'm hitting the gym it really all in the WHO who who Jim I wish as many tale of me do in the post comes with sound effect. Is I make certain yeah right now. You know red right so this is one who yet this is the other who if you will not listen on Intel you will not get cheaper extra of concert content yeah. If if you WANNA look at a picture of me look actually about to lay and then please check out yes basically entail is just an APP that we applaud Alpacas to and allows us to instead links and pitches and stuff like that so whenever a museum where things that can take a pitch and applaud in also. There's a products that talk about that you live sound off is a direct link there but you don't have to have an account and it's free and ever so going of aloke is called Entail anti-israeli. How're you anyway is getting close to your whole halibut? Oh my God boot the worst word in Hollywood <music>. Sorry sorry does really loud if she goes on. Yes sorry Holly Ma Yeah. I'm getting very excited very excited. You know just want to have a break I don't want to I don't WanNa do anything to goodness. There are a few different holidays to active chairs and ashes like the one with the Nice See. I'm a bit ever worser baby so oh I'm Nov.. oversensitive is go now never have the water. I didn't deal well with heat there. You know just feel I come to sweating is hair. Take a hair yeah because I'm a bit I get a chafe really by then. I just don't approach you recommend chafing. Oh my God yeah actually the somethin- go on Amazon ages go into I._B.. Offer would be a large lots large air. We do not walk-in going out later in the evening law dance in Twickenham <hes> but yet <hes> it was this cream from Amazon and basically the the packaging was it looked like little cow and I don't know what the name is. I'll try and find link and put it below but on CNN improves job rope Joe Perovic abrupt and it also recommend if he common into the warmer months wherever you are listening to this onto oh you do suffer with chafing I literally smothered my inner. Thighs and Suda Cram like every night. If I had a birthday oh Oh yet before and some burn you should be wearing your S._p._f.. Ball if you ever Bernie burn then <hes> you yeah well spa best suit on and it does help although have realized I'm a bridesmaid very soon and is actually a bridesmaid the week after I got back off holiday so I'm going to have to be very cautious of any kind of town line. I'M GONNA S._P._F.. Fifty Yeah I didn't want awesome where Tan lines with my dress. There was no kill me very true virtually I also you know we're not. We're not make up girls and I am in a situation where I need to do. My own makeup to speak feazel farming busted a mummy. That's sorry trail you are. I just don't really wear it. I literally where the rush prosaic S._p._F.. To moisturizer as around the week absolutely nothing if I were a like a completely different person yeah catfish and so on if anybody's got any foundation recommendations nations that I combine a little bit so I don't I just don't need loads of antidote to spend fortune by do need some so please Steve Send Him. My Way can torch on what she butchers probably best say uncertain out and I like outspend up to. I like the equity for really half day like really half day. If it's an amazing foundation that Camaro summer not feel Kiki Yeah my favorite one is on and I was like Fulton Yeah. It was really nice but yet <hes> <hes> today's episode is actually quite apt. After talked about holiday is well. It came off the buck of a d._A._M.. We got N._F._l.. Yellow Week on very engaged listeners aims did I can't took to this and say hi we we do actually say hi back we didn't we do we don't just to wit voices and we we don't have salsa faces but a very lovely lady from across the pond called Rebecca. Dane actually got in touch with <music> only a few weeks ago. I'm basically said that she'd come over here and a friend. Laura et came over to London for Colombian Tan Dan Vineland by hate magazine but yeah they were in London for a few days on Fortunately Gospel up from their bags. How Slowly Moines his nightmare so not she posed to oils was what is the best option for Nice but not break the bonk skincare concur whilst here Sangari she needed it CPA quick? She needed at straight away since then. That's not going to break the banks with us. Easy Yep you know so. How are we framed? This up is basically if say ego in UNHOLIDAY. You want to try trying new things your go into festival or you just skin yeah all like Rebecca. You do get spoke the bucks when you go and somewhere yeah. It's basically just a bit of a makeshift routine hence hence the name of this episode. We didn't want people to think we were going. I tell you how to make your routine from starts and no this is just basically saying this is how you can put together something. If you've you've lost something forgotten something or you cannot take a lot so obviously Ryan absolutely fucked me over with my flights so I have to basically pay twenty two pounds to be able to take a tiny little bag onboard ryanair all souls well never forget Reina left me stranded enlisted on my birthday for like four hours thus shit concussive Gary from new royals. They are pretty teddy so anyway. I don't get take my full routine on board and you know what I am not the type of person to count into bottles because it annoys me. I always end up getting filling up a little ball of something and then thrown away because one I've forgotten what is or two I just think Oh yeah Kombi after that and then I'm wasted so it's kind of is my fault but I just also think is a really a good time to just try new products. You know yeah when you need to and you obsolete yeah exactly so bear evenly usuals on available and yeah have to try new things may be is not as bad things yeah no so basically in this. Edna Charlotte Hinson tips and a couple of products that we both like because as a few things that we both already used that will be seasonable <hes> but yeah do you want to go first aims. Oh Shaw dive in will what I had. I was kind of make in my own routine so I kinda put myself in Rebecca shoes as like right. If I was stranded in the city centre yet and I would lost my box. What would I get London's good city cents? Yes I mean who's an if it's going to be anywhere why you're GonNa Forget you. Sorry not forget why you're going a partways with you. Retain the I think big major city centre with only major shot yet for a good place to start yeah imagine being stranded in like doncaster households yet out so I grew or my Lippi lyrics anthropology in east of everybody be spending hundreds of pounds know that wouldn't love that biopsy can't afford doc so so the way I've got about this. Little routine is basically if you're either go into a festival you're going on holiday or you're absolutely skin and don't Wanna spend that much yeah so I started off with. Can we just say that you have oily skin. Yes I do oily sensitive skin. Avoid this and I have dry acne print skin hilo dry gas bill try so I started off with the essentials rituals of as a cleanser. I WANNA tote bag this as dry spit on it. I just realized how make you say it nearly every episode D._I._S. but you maybe we could have a range of tote bags so you you'll be the oil slick in the driest. Bit ought to be an oil slick on all las oily Enu you not. I'm not thought dry your yes. Maybe maybe we should make topamax yet has been in the pipeline Osmania. Yes I started off with cleanser my actual go to like I use all time anyway without being festival on holiday or skin her job him skin all-time lies Marcello officer Marcella Foggy del. Aren't you say Manella. You've just is be what you might see. I mean washing my as much as heart issue saying that word. I'm not mckellar. Marcella may see I say Michaela Michaela water nosy. I say they miss eligible. Some people say my salad at my Sula. Whatever you know you just said Marcello and you didn't even deliver Marcello? He said Marcella but it's actually you were thinking of Marcello the T._v.. Show which is buying in by the way bull you all a bag of lull. Sorry mom yeah anyway. I use the Garnier WanNa know his quietly out. There saw no simple do on which I've used before which you know it's fast. It was really nice. Yes impose really good of sensitive skin because I also an Iowan well oil slick. I do also have really sensitive skin. Yeah Ma Muscle Mosser Marcello Walter Miss Ella Miss L. Awards never actually cost me an issue with my sensitive <hes> oily skin and is call a pros as you know and a lot of negative. Yeah is my get hold back. It's easy you don't need anything else apart from that product on a few pods to get at all I need to sink nosing logo is required. If let's yet you can you can literally buy it near enough everywhere and no need to come if you were to get this holiday 'cause they sell it in a lil hundred mil fossil yeah <hes> it's just great why is I actually think is my holy grail. Yeah 'cause you get in after after a long day and he just Kant Yash Up Kanus you'd call be ost using my cream oil cleanses he literally just WanNa slap on yeah well. This is this is I agree with I've had phoebus unites of lay and I'm not very good from a skin and this is part of the reason why alkyl isn't good for you because when you get any absolutely blooded you just WanNa go to bed so I put a little bottle of the GNAWS. Masella water got ambu there I am I gone yeah well. It was Kinda a gifted by Niles. must we add that. It's an it to us without having to ask book they put on my side and a used dot now because literally all in each day before God. Is that Obama bed yeah a few com pads by Dave needs to be neat about it you can did you smash mashed throwing Olivia face. You know wash of see how much luther so how is watching the lessees now being your boyfriend that you never took about on him. New is was joke you being sarcastic. No you never talk why Anna L. actually just sucked him off for me. Convening Donald's excited him as McDonald's yet very full you being soccer. You'll be serious yet well anyway. poboy has a name he's called cow but yet <hes> he was catching up season season five. You know the really weird guy. He's don't spoil smush. Anybody's washed her birth his he's like deadwood and his wife went bird and this guy is like a serial killer like Los really which shit but when he put his wife to bed talk makeup off with mom Masella Walser he and I said yeah he went anchor to heaven took it off the older so should go to sleep through could go on Oh God was a bad but then he wipes a makeup off and I look to Collins I yeah ignore all context him being like horrible sick with Guy Yeah. I hope you do off me. If you ever put meets but I mean Gilmore I don't don't like drunk mayor and if Anoc Asleep Anyway Pass really nicely watch his wife's yeah con imagine anyone ever do that for me now Alex on these how would literally just bill yeah no when I mean it would be very nice not wipe his skinny the show skin I give him a little skin-care retain of cute yeah and he's at best show called him off duty so oh shut up pie anyway onto the next year so after cleanser combs toner and I was thinking is essential but then thinking bucks who are at told her up is a really yeah. If you WANNA make the most of ever comes after its owner or cleanser you not using use owner <hes> you should really slip a total in the US slippage. 'cause it's just really gonNA help you get the most of whatever product keys after skin crapton yet and just making sure it's fully clean. You've not product left ever. If you WANNA know more than please do listen will Paul linked below but woulda is a really good one. If you ask yourself should actually be used in a tone yes he should bitch yet ruin it hundred and I was thinking all instead of a toner that you use with com- pods if I I was either a festival on on holiday skin I would opt for spray yet. No Mario Badescu do on which is you can buy. I think it's like a dot is not travel size. I think it's just over a hundred mil leases which sorry for the holiday goes if you're on on luggage will for festivals and everything else it would be great und- as well as being toner. It's like I think as I mentioned cucumber isn't it would be a really nice spritz like throughout the day if Yakin's within a bit Dole Yeah if you if you are on holiday and you've not taken in hand luggage will ever can imagine in the heat it would be really nice latch yesh so that would be my go-to. I think it's like I said relatively cheap. You don't need any parts <hes> Avai evasive. You can't buy in most Oscar Eka out phase yea. They're everywhere anyway. I'm so looking around serum which is one I went for high roenick acid because I don't think he can go wrong with the next and that's very true really calm and you can. There's a lot of products drugstore and high end dependent on your butcher. Dot Contain Hannukah said yeah well you can buy their unaccustomed. It's pure form if you never ed S._E._M.. Shop or if it's available showered highly recommend at in this until Oh makeshif routine yeah because I imagined wherever you are like I said if you are a festival of yarn holiday or if you are limited you routine then Yukon really. Early just keep yourself hydro Uganda need that little extra bit of Hydration unto we also another look do have an APP Amato so we wanted to know the full benefits of Hollering custard than going give all go have a li-listen girls young and so the little extra boost of hydration is good if you're using limited products yeah so my X._p.. Points I'm Bon John Y-you off sorry in Akiyama points. Would this my points. I am so I I'm an oil legaue however I do us so miles in the mornings I feel either give me a lot glow and Schmidt me loyal sound bad winona and then also not bad if you've got dry slash acne brin skinny so i. I think you have the same point didn't you if you to use an oil. Maybe try and look for something with scoreline in it. Yep Yep hundred <hes> like I've repeated twice already. We have an episode on so he did want to know the full benefits of squall lane why should include an on white would be good in the low makeshift routine. If you're limited on what's the word the money wells when say like what we will ever if you limit then it will be good <hes> and from a last point which kind of merges into one sorry. This is my las point prominence moisturizer undisputed. If I was GONNA say we have banged on about how much we love the Hossa cold. It's it's the X. L. Anthea Cynthia and the tinted one is just a drought so it was going to say say if your getting the tinted S._p._F.. And US not the routine on you've you know if you've been separated review box dogs you at my makeup. You'll know makeup so it'd be nice little base for even in ice skin tone and structure to give you a really nice globe but in terms of moisturizer sorry taking one step back Laroche pose as widely available in stores like boots will everywhere yeah exactly you and he's also good as well if you've got sensitive skin like may you'll want to buy a cheap moisturizer to go with what something you can trust Bernie control hundred on the rush pose as a very trustworthy Brown so I would highly recommend them <hes> <hes> fuel moisturizer. You've got quite a few varieties of different products and stuff at May. Just go and see what you think would work best view and then yeah the S._p._F.. Which would also develop was nice little base for makeup if you've lost that as well yeah it's amazing on Doda? GonNa take a breath. No Yeah Ablity Al Well Makira. You've pretty much chum covet everything I was going to say now chicken evill can I just I actually thought you clearly throw Panos Oklahoma phone and you will blah blah blah. I'm not listened to accept sub place to just to having a Blah sentence. I didn't even notice donate you have to point out data Blah Blah Blah Blah. She was up some so blackstone so anyway. I'm going completely topics you shelly girl <hes> so yeah you've pretty much kinda covered everything I was gonna say Tim's if the routine so for me being a little dress whereas bitch over here I would recommend you scan for cleanser that Scott moisturizing benefits. I am obsessed with the the rush goes eight coloring dermer cleanser things like twelve pump fifties well so doesn't bright the bunk no it doesn't it's not the cheapest product in boots or wherever the book Soup Eastern Ahold of and it will actually last a decent amount of time and then thing is I think incomes in a big boss. If you want to take it back with the you would have to retrieve that precious suitcase Amaechi put in am if of comedy to get it on hand luggage. <hes> boy is not that expensive really if you hanging around for a week <hes> another thing is. I think it's just a really good opportunity to just try. Any brands. TRY NEW TRIVIA IS I if I go well. If anybody goes into kills they have the travel sizes so if you know that you like something and you end up going to use it for a week by the trouble size and then you never know that might be an e favorite thing so not only binds something small you binds in it's not very expensive and you might leave it in one of by the full size when light down online because he found out that never tried it before you relate those were the good point yet. Another thing that I figured is that to be on all of the things I've been thinking of a mostly like things he should be looking for to try and minimize having to buy extra products and just get yourself some really nice of one hundred percent organic cotton pods and but just get a cleanser this really gentle and your eyes swell so that you'd have to buy an eye makeup remover <hes> and also I find a love I make up promoters or cleanses. All gentlemen is a really good get rid of lipstick as well sung aware in that can ultra thick map drying sing <hes> then you'll be fine but yet just gig gaggle cleanser this gentleman your eyes and then you've got to in one but like he was saying Miss. L. Water is really good at that so I guess either all but if you have got dry skin would definitely recommend getting the rush prosaic till Lorraine Democrat Kneza. I L tip as well if you remove in. I May geico block if you acquire law from scarborough should however am feel Mossel Missile Wilson Much L. Awards Michaela will is I tend to instead of going straight in wipe in it. I send to get it on the POD and just press it really is for probably about a minute <hes> unlike kind of soak three Ad okay. He's all of a lot bid didn't admit scrubbing yeah and actually just comes off really nice gypsum sent him a little sensitive is yeah well talked about is and things personally I mean we all know that I'm not very good at looking after my under eye area so I wouldn't Pasni by cream or anything like that will. I didn't include it because I thought if I was just on the situation yeah I was absolute. Skin I wouldn't responded by wouldn't be my priorities especially. If it's only a few days yeah one hundred percent in regard. We know the obviously people don't some people don't use a routine. That's cleanses Toner Serum Moisturizer S._P._F.. Yeah if you just using a cleanser and a moisturizer that's fine if that works V._A.. So long as you making show the gay and if not then you're okay so again just Masella worser all the rush pose as one would be gray and then just making sure you've got some in kind of moisturizing product. Whether it's an oil or I wouldn't really say Sarum just a moisturizer this highly Nicasio squally ninette because of the soup hydrating and just avoid alcohol costs you say all of the products looks your check him for often cheap rent products have got alcohol in them and just because it so widely available it really doesn't cost them to use in place of other things cost more and so. I think this is a time we need to be reading the label so avoid alcohol because that's GonNa really dry skin and just make sure that you've got some kind of squall in Ohio rennick acid in there but this loads of <hes> products especially in drugstores of really good to explain from what they do on like a Promo Leaf Lil a primary banner or something like that and an always just if you can if well if you phone allows you to if you travel into the K._O.. Edmore abroad and you've got no signal than you can't obviously do it but just quickly give Google's yeah just see what it saying. I tend to look at boots. If big store anyway lot boosts in Manchester housewife yeah yeah exactly so just have a quick look online as well and see what people with your skin type role saying <hes> <hes> yeah. That's everything you need to know exactly but then that kind of leads onto another thing that once say jost get tested a say it so often and you know what places like keells and big brands. You can go into house a phrase at this Akil. She can go down the street w shop you can get yourself just as a kills you know what just go to each and everyone and be like higher just wanted if aggregate tested for this product and be like yeah he go before you know you've got four sachets just adds a slower went on hold down. He added to some pools of the same cleanser saw what yes one. It's Tom was. I am just rent. Are we WANNA try. This book at our to invest yet in case is not good enough. You're literally what into the next shop said the exact same thing is really cheeky but Olsen if they don't know you just same thing unless you leave the tussle Yappy bug like exactly yeah <hes> unto be fair did tell you this actually aims so alex when and go is head on the other day on 'em it was that she really funny. I was just sat watching him light looking like cannot sue vegetable in the show the gone over him just like ahead flow in this they'll gown thing I was obsolete pissing but then the ham the head the dresser came over and start drying his hair and and has he did it like singed his hair and it was really straight like and I was like Oh my God what he's going to do and he goes on Gel in your hand. He's like yeah just put a bit of like walks in something disguise dot in walks through his hair and then he's I oh hairspray and he's like no thanks Hesperian. He's like Sh- spraying everywhere so his hair was like walks and has sprayed in position literally just like what's the won't let Lazy Town Yeah exactly the Yes something out laced honey was terrifying like Oh my God you look like a four year old in year like reception he's too much head so new walking down and <hes> Alex underneath. Can I go just to get a decent hedge Elvis Elvis out she going to hold this down and as well we could like nip into kills because another cost sink there to get bit water Trimbe Rub off and then maybe they've got hair products because they have shampoos and stuff so they might have jail shampoo yeah no so we walk cain and he's chatting away and he's out yeah mate my head Dre my hairdressers just singed off my hair and it's took up a put my finger and electric socket and he's Oh try this. Try that says chunnel these gels and walks in every sin and he's had looks great and he's just like yeah that's great. Thanks thanks pal and then he psycho. If you WANNA wash your hands to get it all off this a soap over their new psychos marshes hands and these Alex Zych Wall my good my hands is so so I was just oh my God they are. I'm going to go wash my hands in news and and then he was like Oh may how much is so pleased he goes. Oh it's like nineteen. Pounds dot have installed so just give you this Testa. The test assize was an actual bar of soap size and the main on this nineteen powers massive huge block Jesus so he walked out after getting all this agile putting his with free bar so I wanNA free Barsa so I would highly recommend nipping and kills. If you just say if you very particular about getting a good body wash then go and get yourself one of those Basel Sake for free and home so yeah was well impressed. He's still opened it of been. I've been told him not to use it so fuck him a little bit. Maybe I'll open and just take a slice off a-x-i-o-s giving my push sob- from heckles Lubitsch and but anyway in regards to are you saying <hes> yeah just go get tested just be a bit cheeky bow and honest you bankole thank you because immed- you've got more spending cocktails and widely Iran's as well. If you visit insult you never going to see him again. I always think yeah that's very trial. Go in and US forever and Amman wanted again so don't yeah please. Hey me but I'll say if they probably do the same thing all the time. Save don't stress and they've got a long day the hot the probably happy you know what you want you know what you're asking for after our to sit down and belie right uh-huh very true yeah try and sell it to you <hes> the only last thing I want to say well to us. Things is make sure you S._p._F.. In something and no I was saying that <hes> if a product says it's S._p._F.. In it they only you have to put a tiny bit in so it's not as equally weighted as if you wore suncream like a pure S._p._f.. And just something is better than nothing in the instance for me. I would make sure there's S._p._F.. In something and if I could afford to just by a little S._p._F.. Or get tested has to from somewhere that I would definitely incorporate that especially if he go in across the pond the other way again every two Americans really haunts on sale otherwise you might combat looking awesome vernon gross but then the last thing is if you've got money to spend end and you're GonNa go and get tested and you're GONNA go buy travel sizes or you're going to buy product this kinda cheap then. Why don't you just invest in one new product if you found new brand that you really liked that you've never seen before? You can't get hold of back at home then. Why don't you just try how and then you found something you Lou? If you've got the money to that obviously he might WanNa keep spend for you know actually doing nice seeing some holiday rather than making skin. Look Nice but if you really antiquing than maybe you'll find some in you you know yeah. I think it's a good few points anyone you know so <hes> yeah I mean I am queen of fin everything into a bag to pull on a plane. If you have not seen pitcher and year listen on Intel have a quick look now because Oh my God I'm so proud of myself. Talk about all the time I probably mentioned in like six episodes book just obsessed due to say often but it was really good yeah the the trickiest to put things in don't just throw things in Oh yell at Lonnie know what don't put the agent in that put some on preflight by somebody that WHO's really cheap <hes> so damn funny around taking a poll out space with you deodorant but yeah well. That's everything have a lovely holiday. Slush festival slash lost you bag slash. If your skin yeah <hes> <hes> Oh one last thing just as I said festival that it reminded me a few all going to a festival I know what glitter on your face and all that jazz. It's really hard to get the glitter off properly if he's vaseline as a thing to stick onto your face so I would recommend just take in not Akon Patrick's when you wipe it goes but you know like an air board <hes> if you just an a-board but you and you don't actually use to end e just use the middle bit to scrape up the glitter in Bassolino face works dream was so much better than trying to rob and definitely don't try and were buffalo with Masella Watts. Khazal said doesn't wear my friend just gently scrape it like with your finger with like a convert thing is actually really helpful. My friend poked to all over shoulders everywhere. <hes> Ghassem Burn took the closer off. She honestly looked like on skin condition. Oh I said to us at your you. The glitter no the McGLADE didn't opposite blocked her any razor wherever also also where she had the black bits of glitter was white. Oh my God I I was like yawn a bird and she was I <hes> Blah Blah Blah and I was I. You're going to Jesus I mean if you all listening after festival season for whatever reason <hes> believed <hes> and it's maybe as win ten year and skin playa whereas P._f.. Nego skiing caused this too many bad face tons of the back talk about Scott Escapism Ben and but yeah that's everything from me she. If you listen on Intel ahead we found it really useful getting links yet. Please give feed button you can also review on entail could not it would be really helpful. Yeah really kind of so aims before we bid our final fell. We would just say a massive thank you to the sponsor of this episode. Who is skin space? It is our brand new favor online shop to find some amazing skincare runs. I mean we're obsessed right. 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Ep 140: Everybody Has a Beauty Story

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Ep 140: Everybody Has a Beauty Story

"Yeah. It's time for scar. Everybody. Let's be energized because Justice over here clapping and messing up the levels. But also yawning, okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I was really really tired. Welcome. I'm fine. I'm just it's just I just meet elite chess. I just need a little assistance this evening. Okay. Well, I am going to teach all the people all the things while you things we're going to talk about today sponsorships with celebrities one in particular, which we haven't talked about yet. Even though it happened like two weeks ago, KENDALL and proactive discuss. Then we have fixes for flyways as in those tiny little hairs that somehow in the middle of winter are worse than ever and last up is sunscreen, the new margarine or maybe even as bad as cigarettes, not a rhetorical questions. Researchers have answers I wanna talk about it. And then I cannot wait to welcome. Our guest, the fabulous. The knowledgeable the forever multitasking, Michelle Lee editor in chief of allure. So Jen, I am not one to follow the Kardashian shenanigans. They're just they're not really they're not for me. Cow does leave it at that. They're not for me. But of you know, about a week and a half ago. Sorry late to the party Kris Jenner announced on Twitter that KENDALL. Jenner was brave and roll noble for sharing her most Ross story in order to make a positive impact for so many people it help foster positive dialogue. It was a testament to the incredible woman youth, become okay? A lodge has a mental health issue. That's what a lot of people thought. What was it? She she had a second a second tweet which had things like hashtag be the change. Share your story. Hashtag change the conversation. Everyone thought what you just said mental, you know. Yes. Shedded mental health mental was gonna share. With us. Right. Well. Terry into that. Her mother was teasing the fact that she is officially she's the official face of proactive. Why is that something to like be vulnerable about? Well. Okay, guys. I just got a couple of million dollars to use this face wash. So vulnerable I ever feeling. I don't know. I feel like you probably get more than a couple million that's complete speculation here. I I laughed so hard when I found out and I found out like a little late like sorry. I was like in a hole for a couple of days when I did find vinyl because I saw these memes, and it was like my face when I found out, and it was like, you know, lots of people like like girl what? Rubber necking is bugging out. I I'm not surprised by this kind of like Kardashian spectacle. And this kind of like, you know, the the the dramatic and they're really masters of the media. But it raises a bigger question. Like, are you really like surprised or like at worse like are most implausibly like offended that like KENDALL Jenner would use something like this? No where people offended people. Some people were like, you know, some people there were there was a breath of reactions on the internet. She was giving such importance to such a trivial topic kind of thing just they felt kind of like played. Oh lease. I mean, we're getting played every single day by this is the internet. Okay. Yeah. Everyone's offended the thing. I think about when you said this, and you mentioned you onto talk about it. And I was just like oh, yes sponsorships? Whatever is that right now. Like, what is the earned media value of signing celebrity to me, you get a lot more value out of when people are like. I'm not sponsored. But like member Dr Adrian last week was like not sponsored by this company. And then started talking about it Vazza, lean Ola Henriksson banana Bray, my brain perked up and all of a sudden, I was more attuned to what she was about to say than some sort of contrived media, showcase like this was with proactive where then you just start to tune out because you feel like you're being played sidebar. I just wanted to say no that someone's probably taking this. I do think that like her stood if she was a serious acne sufferer, which she says, she was like, I don't think that it's like not I don't think it's trivial tab acne. And I do think that like if she was a serious acne suffer, and the whole idea was that she sharing some story about how acne ruined her life or made her like, you know, mentally unwell. That is serious. I'm not like side eyeing this. I'm just side eyeing the the general idea that like the idea of sponsorship today. Yeah. You know, I think we all need to be a little bit kind of with a raised eyebrow and take things a little bit with a grain of salt into your point, Jen like I think people need to be a little bit savvier about this stuff about. Yeah. Exactly quick question before we wrap this up. Who was the old proactive spokesperson that I do remember as a musician. I wanna say was Britney Spears that you shouldn't Timberlake. Oh, and they would show pictures of when they had acne when they were being shot by celebrity photos. And I was like well that seems. Real you know, how like it was like celebrities. They're just like us. But do you think that they did use Proactiv as former proactive user when I did have much worse acne than I do? Now, truly bad acne. That's the whole thing. It works. If you work and you've got to use it the micronized. Benzel approximate was like the only thing that worked for me their version of their face wash. Not all the whole lineup. Just the face wash Kozelsk would dry it out. So it actually really did what you have. But you have to use it consistently not light. So funny. Hey to the point that you think oh, I'm cured. But then you stop using it and then it comes right back. So I luckily got through that. And I actually think it's a great product. I think it's sort of doing a disservice to it to be honest. So I don't know what everybody else thinks tell us. Janai hair issue. Tell me all about it. It's been very pesky. And it's been bothering me. So I don't I would never say have frizzy hair. I know what frizzy hair looks like in don't think I have it. But at the top of my hair was the crown around the part line, my hair, which is like very kind of like its course. But it's thicker eight gets a little frizzy just around the part line. I would like it to do member. Like the game when you were little you would like rub a balloon like a party balloon up against the wall create some static and like put it on your head. I believe that was science class not a game. But yes, I do mister wizard or something like that like that you have Sadeq electricity issues. All the time is what you're saying. It's not static on my head. But like it's it just kind of like, it's not smooth. It's not like blow out smooth. And for those. Who can't see us, which is all of you just has straight hair rights. Here's textured or curly. I know it's probably less of an issue for people with curly textured hair. But when your hair straight, these things are even more obvious, right, right? It creates a textual inconsistency. So what are you gonna do about it? So I brought this up with a couple of different people and actually brought it up on Instagram stories, and some of you folks were really nice you sent me a ton of different tips. And some of them worked some of them didn't one of you guys had recommended the Christian s root touch wand. I try that the other day, I think user error used it onto hut too. High of a setting, and I think I created some more breakage. So definitely gonna try that again that one's like a tiny curling ironed that has a like a precaution. Her on it. So you can get really close like almost five millimeters away from your scalp regular curling iron you'd have to be further away. And there's a little comb, and you just sort of like brush it over and it heats it in like Sposato late. Yeah. So it didn't work. But but I don't wanna say that doesn't work. Think I work for me 'cause I use it improperly. So I'm gonna go back again. But in between that and my next chance I met with the wonderful dovey from W hair studio here in New York at I told him about my problem. He saw with his own two eyes. He recognized it immediately as a common issue, and he gave me what I he did it right before my vary on it worked on my God. This this is my new thing running preach. So for frizz at the crown I wanna take this is this is drew a gun dry or damp to dry hair. You're gonna wanna take some hairspray put on your hands. Like, literally soak, your hands, etc. Your hands and hairspray. And then you're going to want to smooth down. You're like pressing her palms against press, your palms on your hair. So your hair's getting high. Can't you just spray the hairspray because you really wanna kind of press it down you want that pressure. Okay. Not just like missing your hair, hairspray push it because that would freeze them in the opposition's. Yes. Okay. So you wanna press? You want and you wanna put your paws on your head? Then you wanna hit it with a hot tool that you could either blow dry it with a she's a blow dry, but make sure that nozzles on it because otherwise face downward. Yes, otherwise, you're just like creating like a little you're kind of winning them all up again she wanted nozzle or you can use a smooth. You can smooth it even with a barrel. Ironed kind of gently code it like touch, very lightly, very lightly, very lightly. Yes. And oh, and he goes if you if you use the blow dryer, high heat, low speed, it's all about control and getting the theme here control. I feel like you're sort of shellacking it in a way. No, no high. He no with the hair spray, then with the heat. It's sort of like making a coating a ceramic coating on like keeping it down. Yeah. But you're not like smashing down didn't feel crunchy. Oh god. No. Then sorry. There's more steps yet three step process. Then you want a smooth it with a starchy product. And this was so fascinating to me. I was like no not like like a Sierra Lixin himse with an oil serum. Sometimes with is. And he said, no he said too much moisture will make the hair pop up like if it's too loosey goosey. It's all about creating dryness over there because we have like serums and moisture's and cream's. Okay. Those babies will just slide up and pop up to right where they like they're bouncing springing full stars. He's so slurs Archie products. What I said to him Matt waves by orbi is a great one. Okay. 'cause it's like a dry product to anything that, you know, a hand feel anything that's gonna feel like a free. Yeah. Okay. Like those pasty tech game. Yes. Doesn't mean. Like you said like feels like helmet. You're not like smashing it down the hair. Just like you're going to have to do a little bit of a hand feel thing hairspray heat than. Dry starchy province, and he did that. And like it sounds like a lot of really didn't feel like a lot. It looked like I had glass hair class at the top. Yeah. We'll you're wearing headphones now in its super smooth. And it's working feel. I'm gonna try that. I have that issue as well. But I also frizzy hair. So we'll see how it goes. And you could sub in the the the Kristen s for one of the hot tools. Yeah. It'd be perfect usage wouldn't it? Yeah. Okay. I like this. Thank you perfect for winter too. When it's so staticky, and you take off your hat a million times. I like that. Thanks. Jess. Sure. Thanks, debbie. Jan I'm so excited that you're getting married. Yeah. Me too. Can I give you a bit of advice? Sign up for Zola, someone who got married I can tell you that you want to take the stress out of wedding planning, and this place has it all save the dates invitations your wedding registry tools. I heard you can use it to build a free wedding website. And I know that should be kind of something I have I know you're gonna want an FAQ section that tells people if they can bring their kids to your wedding if they can bring a plus one and also has this cool registry tool. You even away to build a virgin, yes. So this you can have presence from all. Different kinds of brands amazing brands co that's good. 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Nobody thought they were right? And then they were transfats actually sup. So what they found was the more people wear sunscreen, incidences of heart disease and things like that. Obviously have not lowered. So they thought it was oh, you don't have enough vitamin d let supplement with vitamin d that's not helping lots of researchers showed them as well. And this one researcher found the issue might actually be. That what sunlight is doing isn't the vitamin d is just like a signal that you got the sunlight it wasn't. What was helping what was actually helping keep people healthy was the sunlight, so he put volunteers out and son for thirty minutes in the summer. And they're nitric oxide levels went up. That means nothing to anybody. But their blood pressure went down. So the actual sunlight was what was triggering their blood pressure to go down. And that of course, lower blood pressure makes you a healthier person all around the less heart disease and everything like cut to if you look at all of the research lined up. It seems that the more fair skinned people wear sunscreen, the higher that their blood pressure is because they're blocking out a lot of that son. That's we're so this article has a lot of other researchers talking about evolutionary biology, and how dark skinned people are much less likely to get all types of skin cancer. And we're not talking about melanoma, the more deadly ones more so talking about like, the basil cell and things like that that that are that are more prevalent now, and the reason they're more. Prevalent is because we don't go out and son. So when we do if we get a sunburn, that's what's triggering that Darren so not I want I won't say, there's a huge wave of experts. But some experts are starting to change their tune and say, especially for it depends on your skin tone, of course, because there's some like inherent, of course, different skin to should have different rules. If we want to be colorblind because we're worried about offending people. That's not medically. Correct. You know, black people white people Asian Hispanic different needs. But we do need a little bit of some exposure. It seems in order to be healthy. You know, what I kept thinking about this whole time is they're telling me nuts where sunscreen all the time, but nobody ever put sunscreen on right? It's not like I'm going out there with like a blanket of sunscreen, everybody who puts on screen still has some exposed skin somewhere. Yeah. There's no perfect -application. Right. Like like, so my thinking, you know, what my plan is now, but I'm going to because I don't I'm going to be honest about something, I don't use sunscreen because. I'm worried about skin cancer. You know, I'm like an olive Persian person. Like, I really am not out in the sun. All that much. What is your impetus? I wanna look young I'm using sunscreen as an age prevention. Sorry Micheli to anti-age myself. No. But like I will put it on my face. So my new thinking is I'm gonna keep putting it slathering over my face, neck and chest. But then I'll just leave my legs and arms out to get like, my vitamin d. So I don't have blood problems and heart problems. I I see your point. I am a little nervous about you getting. I mean, I just found out about this article. I'm not a scientist. I cannot conclusively say yes, this is great. I fully agree. You know, butt or disagree. I am nervous about the sun exposure, I did hear a couple years ago that like the fastest growing area. One of the fastest growing skin cancer is the legs because nobody puts SPF on their legs. Yeah. But probably for those less invasive types of skin cancer. I'm imagining, I don't know. I can't I can't tell you conclusive. Right. Right. So I I don't want people to think the legs are free for all now. No. But I also want them to talk to their doctor based on their skin tone and their race because the health issues that affects you know, like, you know, heart disease is more of a problem in the black community. This is what they're talking about. You give blanket advice to everyone because it's not it's so funny. I just took like a blood test recently. And like they asked me like about my genetic background. And I was just thinking like this is so. Like, not not funny. But like different in the cities have different types of concerns. And it's like Lutely, you know. I just never really think. It's commonsense though. Yeah. And as medicine gets more targeted and we're taking genetic tests in order to find out. You know, what problems we have? And even if you have type of cancer, they're going to test it to Netflix before they start testing it before they start trading it like, it makes sense that sunscreen should be one of those things that isn't alike. One-size-fits-all? Yeah. So I'm not going to be the person to get on this Mike and be like, you know, what you're cool you're from where no good bay. Of course. Not and also your fair skin light person with freckles. So I'm sure that you, and I have a different tolerance. But I really encourage you guys to read this. You know, obviously, it's just like an inkling of some new news coming out. But I think that we should watch this area of research because it might be MC member doctors recommended cigarettes. I'm not saying the sunscreen industry is trying to pull one over on us and make us pay for this thing, we don't actually need. But I really think there's going to be more research coming out, and we're going to start to see that. There are listen we like we evolved in the sun. You know, there's a reason we have circadian rhythms. The twenty four hour day, you know, because you're gonna pay for this one so much hate mail every day for this every dermatologist I ever interviewed go ahead at missions. Smoking right now. Is so good. I'm just picturing like the doctor let's circle on this forehead having a cigarette. Be like you're all good kid. We are here with Michelle Lee. I'm so excited that she's here. I mean, we've been waiting a long time. She's the editor in chief of allure and also a fellow podcast the podcast launched in December. And she's already had may musk on and Aquafina as guests. And she was also the former editor in chief of nylon she worked with intouch weekly life and style daily front row glamour loads of other websites and publications. Welcome to fat miscarry Machel, high lady, welcome. I'm so happy to be here. It's so exciting to have you here. We have tons of questions. Let's get right to it. When you were growing up, Michelle. What did you think about, you know, you're always in the beauty space, and we're gonna get to that? But what would how did you find out about beauty products and beauty advice? Yeah. I I was a late bloomer in every sense of the word. I actually didn't even hit puberty until nineteen. So that says medically medically. I didn't until his nineteen being funny. Oh, no. No. No, no. I'm not. Being I'm being funny. But that says so much about me. So I grew up in Connecticut, and until I was sixteen. My dad got a job in Florida. And then I moved on south Florida, which was like massive culture shock. Sure. But I consider myself. I think technically I was a child of the eighties, but I really consider myself to be a child of the nineties 'cause being a late bloomer. I feel like I didn't really even know about my own style until like the nineties hit. So when I think about myself back, then it's like, I didn't really start thinking about makeup or hair or skin or anything until I was like my late teens, and it was very much like remember, the movie singles of words of that. Bridget fond of like my dream. So I wanted to be a cut my hair like that. I I had I I did not do the little I and do a little hat. I definitely wore like tights. And like, doc, Martins and little shorts little jackets and stuff. And that was like, my look, and it was weird because I think that at that time, especially I didn't really feel like beauty media or fashion media. Serving me. Right. And like, we talk about all the time now diversity and representation, including everything and for sure in media and entertainment like I never saw a person who looked like me. Maybe it was like in Wayne's world. It was like Tia career was like one Asian girl was like see a career flashback like super babe babe, which I was really thankful for because it was like Tia career. And then Connie Chung was the other person who actually saw Connie super bay a super babe who I also saw an event like a couple years ago. And I was just like, wow, she was like it. She was like the one Asian woman who I ever saw. So you feel like throughout my my younger years. I definitely always had a very conflicted view of beauty. And what was beautiful for sure, you know, when I looked at people the ones who I looked up to the supermodels. It was like Kate moss and Cindy Crawford. And that was the look, and my mom definitely has been big influence on me. But my mom was not like a big beauty fanatic. She really didn't wear makeup. She definitely did pond's cold cream that was thing. Pond's cold cream? And then the little pink glass bottle of oil of olay. I have very fond memories of like that pink oil of olay sent it took me a really long time to learn about hair and makeup and everything else. But then when I started really getting into I really got into it like I did again, it was the nineties. I was doing like fully like the lift liner. I did like a a lot of eyeliner all the way around my eye, and it was a lot of experimentation. 'cause at that time again, we didn't have YouTube. We didn't have Instagram. There was no way to really understand how to do makeup on Asian is right. And I'm I have modeled is meaning I don't have a crease. And so every time I would see in magazines and stuff like they would tell you how to put on I shadow. I was like how do you do that learning all of this where you reading other magazines magazines by the time, I was like in my late teens, and then for sure in college, I was definitely reading magazines. It was being vogue Ellum RIC flair like all the fashion magazines and in their little captions and stuff, right? Like everyone. Does they would write the instructions about how to do the look and always? And it really difficult because I didn't have the same shape. Is anyone say how the hell do you do that? Right. And then also like I do have this weird memory of when I was like a young kid that at some of my friends birthday parties, they would have it was either like the Avon lady or Mary Kay or something. They would come in and do like a party those make party, and they would test your your face in your skinnier coloring, everything until you if you were warm color, or if you're full color me beautiful. Yes. The other one that did the seasons member the seasons the coloring beautiful had seasons it summer Michelle summer winter fall. Remember what I was? Yes. I quite liked to. That book it was called beautiful. Okay. I couldn't remember that. I couldn't remember that. For some reason, I thought it was like the woman's name. But yeah, it was like a whole thing. So when you got to allure, I know him jumping like quite a few years after. But did you bring any of that with you like you must have had a vision of what you wanted to mean. At least when you had to like present your vision to the folks at conning has do you had to say something like what did she? Well. First of all it was like, whoa. Like, oh my gosh. I was in shock that. I'm like talking to them about this role. But then definitely like through the process I had to come up with a deck. And I was like I wanna just like below them away with us and do really great jobs. I presented this beautiful looking design deck to them about what my plans were. And you know, involved a lot of different things. It was digital social video obviously like they were bringing me on board to bring Lor into a more modern space. I think at the time that I started three years ago. It was very much known as just a magazine. So I really needed to bring it into all those other platforms. But then also it was just making sure that a freshened up with the image of allure was also thinking about what beauty was at that point too. Because I think right when I joined we're celebrating our twenty fifth anniversary. Was his twenty five year old brand, which is amazing has awesome history of being like, a super smart, trustworthy, brand that has done so much in the beauty space for me, though. Like, I definitely think about that deck and one of the big things was diversity. And I think my own experiences with beauty growing up and feeling like, I wasn't included and everything I think that that definitely had a huge impact on what I wanted to do with the brand just in terms of like making sure that people felt included having making a stronger viewpoint having stronger viewpoint on cover stars too. And I think that the first year it was a lot of transition. It was a lot of like getting the staff rate making people were all on the same page about things are second year. We'd definitely like just hit our stride. I think we had amazing covers we became the first major women's magazine and states to have a woman in hejab on the cover is that one of your what's one of your proudest moments. Whether it's a story or cover whatever looking back over those three years if for sure was. That I think having holy added on our cover. We had the big cover line that was this is American Beauty now via and if you think about what was happening in the world at that time. I think we were all obviously thinking about politics there was like the big Muslim travel ban at that point. And then also later that year, I think it was in September. We had Helen Mirren undercover. And we declared we're banning the trim anti-aging wanted to ask you about. So yeah, we had like these big moments where I think that especially when I look at that. You're those two thousand seventeen where we hit our stride. It was that we were taking beauty and making sure that we broadened it in a cultural sense that obviously we all like, you guys know like we all love products. Like, I love every single day looking in my corner and getting my bags and boxes and playing with new stuff. But I think that for me it's been really interesting to think about everybody has a different beauty story. So whether you're Helen Mirren, whether you're helium Adan, whether you're Aquafina, whether you you're whoever your beauty story is really fascinating. And it goes beyond just the products that you're using spin the feedback like. The feedback for the most part has been really positive. I mean, I think that for anyone who works at media. You know, that it's always like, you get that little percentage though, that is negative, and I think talking about the the Halima cover, I think for me like there's something in my personality of where even if ninety five percent of the comments are super positive for some reason is up five percent that a hang onto. And I'm just like gets to me so much. I think over the years, I've kind of learned to one just kind of wait it like, I tend to think that for a lot of people for me in particular. It's really easy for me to get derailed by something like CNN comment. And it'll just take me out for like the rest of the day where I'm like, I just keep thinking about it. So now, I feel like who come up with different strategies to avoid it like won't won't read the comments, I'm calm, or if it's like if I know that there's an Email coming or something that's going to derail me. I'll just make sure that I don't look at it until the next day for the most part. They're like, I said the the comments the feedback. Has been amazing. We won that year ad weeks magazine of the year. I won editor of the years. Right. Like it. Definitely when I think back about that. That is such a proud moment. Because again, thinking about everything that was going on in the world, you know, you're competing against the New Yorker, you're competing against Newark magazine. The fact that they awarded a lore with that. Like, it's it really means so much the talk aging, I was gonna ask about the anti. Will you did actually? Okay. So. Yeah. I mean, we, obviously this is something I work in a space where you know, the anti-ageing conversation is is very relevant to what I do. So I think it's very interesting that lure stake in the ground. And they said this isn't twenty seventeen you know, we're not gonna use that term anymore. And you wrote in anyone who is interested can go online. I think you're editors letters is online. They can certainly go and read it, but you were pretty clear about why you wanted to remove that from the conversation, but if you can just kind of recap here what led you to that? Yeah. Well, interestingly, I think the first time that it came up was from Philp Accardi. So Phil, I think most people know podcast guests was he dwells really amazing. So we have a whole lure log lineage using so Phil I think Phil most people know was at some point the chief content officer at teen vogue. But he also spent some time as the digital director at allure. And so at the time he was actually one of the youngest members of our staff, I think he was maybe twenty four twenty five at the time. And he brought up at some point. When he first started with us. Why are we still using this term anti-aging, of course, twenty four year old? You know, we're sitting right? And I was like, yeah. It's it's really true. And it stuck in my head. But then maybe a month or two later Johnny by who's our executive beauty director. We were down at PC peace conference in in the beauty world. And we were having a conversation with a brand and Jennie had not listened to this conversation that it had with Phil before. But she also brought up this thing of like. Yeah. You know, when we're in the office, or when I'm talking to my friends, we don't ever really conversational say anti-aging products. Right. Like, you would say what are you using for the lines around your eyes, or like, what are you using for, hyper pigmentation, or even what vitamin C, sir are using people know so much now about ingredients. It's not something that you say, what's your favorite anti-aging product to a friend. So the more that we started talking about it in the office, the more that we started thinking about we had done so much in those previous two years on diversity, but we were really focused on body image. We were focused on gender, even on skin color on hair. Texture on all those different things. But the thing where we were still frankly failing at was aging, and it was free covergirl signing may must get thing. Right. Yeah. All that and funnily enough when you asked about feedback. It was one of the things that I got a lot of feedback about was anytime. I would get like a handwritten snail mail letter was like you've made the brand too young. And I definitely, you know, sometimes you get crazy people writing to you either online, or you know, in mail, or whatever. But I feel like there is something to always kind of listen to all those I definitely took that to heart. And I I thought about it a lot, and I was like we have actually filled with that like the models who were choosing the people who were choosing to highlight. Like, we are ignoring anyone over certain age. And what age is that? I would say the time. I mean for some reason everyone chooses forty rally guys. So I'm forty three. Okay. Yeah. And that's the interesting thing too. Is that like, you know, M I aging myself out of who I think our audiences, and I don't think that we thought that in the audience. And the office. But I think that we somehow had moved into the space where it had gotten young. And we were sort of like ignoring this whole other demographic. So it was really important to us in the more that we thought about like this term anti-aging. And I know it was controversial. I think for the most part we got a lot of positive feedback. When we said, we're going to be on this term. We want the industry to join us. But I definitely feel like there were people who were like come on. It's all just semantics is just a word we understand what it means. I think about it in terms of like, the word diet Riley. I've been working in media for like twenty two twenty three years and way back in the day. We used to always use the term diet, and it kind of became this thing of where women were technically starving themselves. Right. They were starving themselves for the sole purpose of being skinny and they just wanted to be like waif lake lake lake. Keep moss the thought process behind like starting diet was that you did it for the sole purpose of being skinny nowadays. We kinda switched to the mentality of wellness where you're going to eat, right. You're gonna. Exercise you're doing some of those same things, but it's with the purpose of longevity. It's to feel better to have more energy. I think of at the same way as anti-aging to that. If you're using skincare products in your intention of it is to have good skin health. And you wanna have like you can totally work on those things like you can work in your wrinkles, working your, hyper pigmentation, but you're not doing it from a viewpoint of feeling desperate to do those things because you feel like if you don't do them that you're going to be considered ugly or that you're going to be considered like old looking, but it's not coming from the size of fear is that it's not a place of trying to change while you are trying to change if you're trying to sort out your wrinkles and dark spots. It's it's funny. One isn't it? Or is that your personal take on aging? How you feel about it? Like now, you're forty-three in probably using some of these products or maybe even getting injections or whatever one hundred percent. I am I think that's the point that we wanted to make was that. We are. So not against any skincare move me. I used so much skin care. The ten step in the morning of the night. I love skincare. Love seeing dermatologists, I love facials everything. And I think that's the thing is that we're not trying to shame anyone for anything that they're doing. I think what we're trying to remove is the shame associated with the way that frankly, a lot of beauty products have been marketed to people over the years that it is. It's like that fear based marketing that you're going to be old and ugly. And no one's gonna love you. If you don't use these problems, I understand what are some other changes that you've been trying to make allure? Yeah. I think one of the other things has been media in general, really like I didn't really know a lot of people before I started there, and I always talking to people like readers editors editors really like people very much spoke from the Royal. We right like we speak from a award. I think what happened over the past ten years or so is because of social media and YouTube and everything else we wanna know personalities. Choose I feel like what's happened over the past three years at had been. There is I I wanted to push people front and center. So I feel like definitely like more of the editors out there. Whether they're doing videos, though, they're on social media. That's definitely been a big thing diversity for shore. And again, just like all the different platforms. Like, I'm really happy. The fact that like the magazine is still big and growing, vibrant and everything, but like our digital grows and social in video has just like completely taken off. And then also we have other businesses. We have our alert beauty box. So that's been also really fun. So you mentioned before the I was at nylon and nylon, I was the editor in chief and chief marketing officer, which I don't think has ever happened before that it's sort of like being an editor and a business person like the publishing side, and the editor aside, exactly sticky. It's it's sticky. But I'm a big believer that people can do both that as long as you're transparent about things. It's like that question also about like editorial like can editors do branded content. Right. I'm living proof. But again, it's just if you're transparent about it, you, you know, when you're working on it, if you're working on edge Hoiles when you're working on Brandon. So I just personally from my background and everything else. Like, I love working on businesses. And I feel like I have been really inspired by just like the start up movement in beauty. I wanted to ask you about the beauty business to we talked about media. But the brands have been doing something similar to what you're doing which is leading personalities come front and forward have you noticed a change? It's like in the last three years, basically when you've been a lower in the way that brands are trying to tell their story as far as a media placements like do they care about getting a print story in Laura or they just like worried about, you know, compression, holding still care? Yeah. So what what have you noticed changed about the way beauty companies are marketing to consumers? Yeah. Oh, and are you happy about it or not? I mean, I definitely think that personalities are important across the board. And part of it is because sort of what I was saying, I guess about diversity to the fact that if you show like multiple faces, and you feel like you can identify with someone like telling someone's personal story or like having a face show is so much more important sometimes than just showing like product, we're like a smear or something definitely been that. I think social media and YouTube have been like huge game changers and mostly Instagram. Honestly, I think the fact that everybody I talk about a lot that like everything is kind of becoming the same in that. Okay. At a lower. We started out as a media brand. But now, we truly are just a brand wrestling products. We've got our alert beauty box. We're maybe launching an event at some point soon. But then you look at some of the brands to and now brands if you started as a Kuzma brand, you may be started out selling products. But now, you're a content creator, you know, suddenly getting into maybe producing a Netflix show like everyone is kind of doing those same things we were all just like these three hundred sixty degree brands. But what about the speed that? We're doing it like the launch cycle. Like, how do you keep up when brands every month dropping new product? Is that bother you ever? It's kinda crazy. I mean, do you think it's crazy? We were just. Just because we realized that a lot of these products are coming out just to make noise and not necessarily because someone needs them once them on their face the same brand talk about waste. I know. I just Matlins phase right now. I love it. Hey. I actually have been really encouraged by some of the brands like then I met you. We're like win Charlotte launched that. Like the fact that it was just the cleansing do. Oh, my thought was really amazing because I like I like it just so much to take right now. And maybe it's that I can take it from certain brands where like is still feel excited if I see a new lake tarp package or like if shinola was to drop something on my desk. I'm like, I'm still kind of excited to see that. Or Pat McGrath dropped something. But I think it's also it's understanding who your brand is and whether or not you should be the one doing that. Like everyone right now is kinda stuck in the same cycle of feeling like they have to play that same game. When actually maybe it's just better for your own brand that it's like you do the singular drop like once every season, right? Yes. Schnell started coming out with like the palette with Patrick starred. Be really confused. I don't know. That's having any time soon. So I'll just touched on this. But like, you know, I see you obviously, you're in editor and chief. But I also, you know, people who really see you as like an influence, or, you know, oh, I know Michelle follow her, and I don't know often with you and your family. Nail. Art. How do you see your role as an editor in chief in twenty nineteen? What is the role of of an editor in chief today? Yeah. I mean, it's so hard left like the word influencer has this weird. Connotation, right. Does that mean to you is that was that kind of like a like a diss? Sorry. Well, I feel like I saw it maybe three years ago when the word blogger became really negative. So even people who I knew who were bloggers, I would see them at fashion week or something and be like, oh, there's a blog on the blogger like, I'm an influence. Yes. Our kind of moving into this time where people are like, oh, the word influence or is like not right. I'm a creative director like you'll see a lot of. I'm a creative director now. I don't mind the word like I I think that I look at Instagram. I say, yeah, it's it's all Instagram because I'm not really on other social like in terms of like my job for me Instagram is really the focus. I do view it as another arm of my job. I think that my very first job. When I was first starting out was glamour so way back when Ruth Whitney was the editor in chief doing there. I was an intern. So do you know what the as internship is like the American psyche magazine editors so I was an Azmi intern. And so I was there for the whole summer. Cindy, Levy, I think was the deputy editor editor at the time. But I remember looking at Ruth Whitney. And at that time as an editor in chief you had one job you had the magazine, and you're one time that you got to communicate with your audience was through your one monthly editor's letter. And that was it who's unless somebody was writing you a letter and sending it to you, and maybe respond back like there was really no way for you to communicate with people more like an event or something nowadays, the fact that I can communicate with people on a second by second level. It's a little bit maddening sometimes because it can you can go a little bit crazy with it. But actually love it. So can I ask you, you know, you do video and you're like, okay, I'm in, you know, my bathroom, or my, you know, my office yada, yada and people they must. Must right to immediately. Like, I love that. Or do this. Do you? Do you write them back? So, but what about I know your job is so busy? I've seen you. How do you juggle? And it's funny using this is part of your job. I I struggle. I don't even have a fraction of the followers. You have I struggle with this balance. So how do you manage all this time wise, I'm actually looking for tips for myself? So okay. So here's one little. Yeah. I don't I don't respond to everyone right away. I know I know certain responses are going to be faster than others, and you know, how in your iphone you can kind of program like shortcuts. No, I'll show you after this settings. You can do. So for example, a publicist will message me on Instagram. What address can I send this to? So I put a little shortcut in my phone. That's Addy ED why. And then I just typed that and my tire address goes in. So it's like I have little shortcuts that things like that where I know it's going to be fast. I'll sometimes respond right away. War just flag it and then by the end of the day, like if I'm sitting in bed or something then on kind of go through all my unread things and try and respond to people to feel like personally taxed by all this or does it invigorate. You it depends because I feel like this is this can release suck your suck your soul. Yeah. It depends. Like, I feel like right now, I feel invigorated by it asked me again in six months. I might not feel that. Yeah. Yeah. No. Because it is. It is part of the job that I think people don't understand like, it's very it. Feels quite personal feels like a little bit. Yeah. I've always wondered like what if your brand that you don't actually match up with like lure seems to be you. And you've changed it in your own personal personnel direction. But yeah, I don't know you're giving a lot of yourself. That's what I'm trying to get. Thanks for doing that, Michelle, by the way, I think the thing is too. I'm careful about what I share one thing is I don't share a lot about my personal life. I don't share a lot about my family whose husband got two kids. I share my daughter sometimes. But being Kate. I also care about their privacy though, too. So we created this little character for her. That's mini Michelle Lee, and she actually has her own little mini Michelle the Instagram now, but you'll notice you wear sunglasses, and so she's wearing sunglasses because I always felt weird about until they're of the age when which they're kind of like, okay, mom. I'm okay. Like being out there. And you show me like I was just felt like that should be their decision to. So I am like wearily private about some of those. And that's why I feel like my Instagram is sort of like, that's my it is my company like my brand persona in a way like that. Yeah. And I think like what you're saying though to about, you know, some people know me as an editor in chief. But I went to LA recently like a couple of months ago and two girls separately. Like, I was waiting for my bag at the carousel and this one girl stops music. Hi, Malo, you I really love your account should know. Ideally, like wasn't like I love a law or anything. It was like I love your Instagram. And then I was walking a little bit more, another stop high, follow your Instagram, and it did occur to me that. Like, I do feel like it's good for the overall brand the fact that I feel like I'm bringing people into our world. And I definitely have had people message me to being like, I really love your nail nail. Art. I really love your videos at you're doing you're making me want to subscribe now. So I feel like it is new people enter you said it invigorates right now. Let's talk beauty products. Like, what brands are invigorating you or product categories or things that you've been seeing that you're like super psyched, I love skin-care. I have to say like, I'm definitely skin here fanatic. I mentioned I'm fully on like ten steps ten years ago. I'd never would have thought I would use this many products. I really believe in like gentle products, then because we've brought lots of them lost them. I definitely more gentle gentler magenta. Yeah. I mentioned than I met you who else is doing it. Okay. So I can kind of walk you through like my morning scheme your routine. So I loved Hajjah tasha. I think is amazing use their essence. I am using peach and lily that glass skin serum which I think is really good amusing drunk elephant the vitamin C serum. What else do I really like, I definitely am an ex-police later at least twice a week. There's a really good Joanna Vargas, it's like the scrub mask that she has that. I really love I like revive for like a day moisturizer? They have a dark spot corrector that has I think it's like SPF thirty this really really good. I definitely have been very into masks to. So usually on the weekend. Like, I'll do a Saturday mask and a Sunday mask, and I'm not loyal to any mask. I think maybe because I try so many of them. Yeah. What was it about all those brands union a bunch of prestige brands several of them were founded by Asian American women? I noticed also. But what drew you to them? Like, why do you think they're standing out and they're all fairly new brands to there weren't like any legacy in there? I'm just curious like what in general speaks to you about products? You know, it is I I went through about probably. Two years ago of really bad cystic acne, and I was really trying so many new products as we all have to do in this profession, and I was kept breaking out, and I couldn't get a under control. And I was just a one was using too many new products every single day we're going through this period. Testing for the beauty were best of beauty awards, and I chose night cream's sheet masks and foundations one years jailed hall in the shampoo. It wasn't easy. Such a weird rookie mistakes. In hated me. I went to dump tolerance. And she was like your skin is just rejecting you right now. So I think after that point I was like I have to just like completely revamp my entire routine, and again like using that were a little bit more gentle after just trying a whole bunch of things like these are things that have worked for me. I don't know if it has anything to do with them being newer or being led by Asian American women. Maybe is partly that. I think I am a little bit prone to. When I have a founder come in. And explain to me like, Charlotte. Did this is how I came up with this cleansing bomb? This is how I came up with this. These are how we source the ingredients. I do love hearing that Oregon story you get them. Like, oh that totally. I really do love that product. But yeah, I mean, I think that because I've tried so many things like those are the things that work especially for morning. The thing that annoys me the most is if I use a serum or a product and it pills under Mako a hate it. And I feel like all of those like do great on my skin. They make me look globally. The other big thing for me to is that a I went almost my entire life thinking ahead oily skin. Because by the end of the day, we all get oily at some point within the past five years or so I went to see someone just like you have actually extremely dry skin. So once I just even discovered what my actual skin type is like I feel like that helps to question for you. How do you feel about the word normal skin the term normal skin does? I right. What is normal skin? What was the cause? This is come up recently a bunch of conversations like is that exclusionary say normal, meaning oily skin is abnormal dry skin is abnormally. I don't think. So she's making a face. She doesn't agree. But just. That did because I was trying to think of a were we we were both talking about what's the word that would be not the word normal. What else would you say? Well, I've heard the thing about good skin. Right. People have said like don't say good skin because what is good skin that? It's like good the bunch of people with good scam. Okay. So that's ring a bell just for brands like allure that. So so important to be inclusion. Yeah. For me. It's I don't understand what normal skin is. I don't think anyone has. Dryer something somewhere. So as exciting to me highlighter, I'm really excited by and you right now. So today, I layer I have that flower beauty palette, which I really like. So that's under. And then I got is that ritual defea the alchemist have you seen that? Okay. So they sent me this thing. It's I think it's pretty sure it's out. And I'm not breaking some rule was embargo. Embargo was basically where are they calling? It's highlighter intensify. So if you do like a highlighter under and then it's like it comes in like, they're normal like cute little thing. And it's a little bit glittery. But it's like a cream highlighter that you then put over it. He put over highlighter. It's for your highlights highlighter for your highlight partially-sighted all the Shelley. Thank you. Wow. Name for that. Anyway, did you issue nemo on? No. But we just saw her yesterday. Okay. Does she tell you about this? I think I saw a photo of her on Instagram. That's so like an am both thing. That's a very nonvoting highlight. What's her thing? Nivea Dewey dumplings. Do we don't glow? Gloag Azam glow glow yourself. My thing. I made up that last one. Okay. So now art that is your other big thing. And you have some banging nail art fired. By you like, how do you keep it on? And have two children. So those Joe's they always looked perfect. Tell me everything only do polish now but to polish every day not every day. I try and do once a week. You probably were dish gloves. Don't you? I don't do dishes. Okay. That's helpful. So my son is thirteen. And so one of his chores is he does the dishes got a kid. And you gotta get a kid. My nails are gonna look good. Get thirteen year old. So yeah. To me. It's again, it's something I enjoy I think a beauty, and I think of I think of makeup, but I also think of nail specifically as like, this is my creative. Palate. I have before like giving my nails a break, and I'll go like three days and not have anything on my nails, and they feel so naked to me. And now, I think because people know me for my nails like if I see someone I haven't seen in a while. They're like, let me see your nails on I. Yes, there's pressure. There's for sure pressure. So these were done these paintbox, but from I would say like seventy five percent of the time. I'm doing the myself. Off. And my big thing is coming up with Neil are that is really easy to do. Because for most people like, I'm right handed. So my left hand is obviously not as co-ord- right doing things. So I usually try and find his eyes that are easy enough. And like still kinda cute that I can do with my like kind of crazy left hand and since you're using polish now, which I really like because I did Joe recently. And I swore off gels for a long time that I did it again in though, completely regretted it. I love that you're going back to basics polish. But how are you keeping them from chipping so much like do you have a favorite top code? You have a hack what's going on? Or just be very careful. I am careful. I will say that's that's the biggest thing is that. Are you a light typer? Well, it's the typing doesn't bother my nails though. Because that's just really like. Okay. My my finger pad voice. Texter boys texture for sure it's really digging in bags like I have like a little bag, and I find that if I dig in my bag all the way in the bottom that can really ruin your nails, some careful about this is all making everything you're saying not to do what I do like. So that might be part of the problem and don't use your nails as tools either. Like, sometimes if you you know, if you go to a store, and it has like a little sticker on like we're gift card. What do they do us back cards Christmas? Every single one is like a freaking penitentiary of numbers that you can't get threes. Don't use your like, we all tend to then go use. My my nail as a tool scrape this thing. But now we're going to hear Michelle in our voices. Saint don't yells tools. That's a good one. And then also wants to my nails. I will top. I'm I don't have a favorite taco. Honestly, I really tend to just whatever their is around little such feet. Maybe maybe whatever's whatever whatever's around I do. I have a lot of Zoya stuff at home, which I'm using a lot. But then two or three days after I do my nails atop co again. That's one of the big things is that like eventually after like three or four days. You know, you're going to get little dings and stuff your nails. If you top code at that point and just let it dry perfectly. You your manicure should last a little bit long. Nice. And you mentioned, you know, whatever's lying around what products are lying around your desk. So the office many, I probably a hundred facial missed. Yes. Or no facial nece hundred presents. I have Mario Badescu. Very good to me in his sent me. Like, I'm not getting twelve. Like in different sizes and everything so you will find probably a dozen. Mario Badescu mists around. Are you a dog person or cap person jen's theory? I know bribes I'm a cat person. But you like facial miss. I do she's robe you she the one person hasn't. She's not at rogue. I teams that if you're a dog person you like facial Mus, but if your cat person, you don't and so far is pretty much worked out with everybody. We ask but years for off my numbers saying, well, I when I was growing out liar. When I was growing up we always had a dog, and as became an adult we now have cat. Okay. After just my. You have more than one cat. We have two cats. Beautiful. What are their names so Bowie an Atari beautiful? Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't up to the facial. What else? Else? Does I have a lot of Islamists? What else is on my desk? Handcream for sure. So that's another thing that people are always like what hand cream? Do you use what cuticle oil? I can don't really use cuticle that much. Like, I feel like for me, the annoying thing about cuticle oil is that anytime that I'm touching my hair or anything else. It's all over me all of my face. It's all over my hair. So I'm I use hand cream. I would say sometimes up to twelve times a day just because it's like right near my chemo, your hands are so pretty yeah. When do you like I have the one that's on my computer right now is growing alchemist. So they haven't body cream. And again, I'm not using things that are called handcream. I'm just using any lotion or anything I'll go to trader Joe's, and they have like a big singling body lotion. And I'll just get that. My husband actually, ordered from like a health food store or something. There's this thing called gator bomb. That's like what is Mr. Michelle leads doing ordering. So I just saw this thing. I think he had like dry hands or something like dry cracked skin. So he thought he needed something that was like really late, vir? An intense bought this thing, and I just saw it like sitting in our kitchen at some point. I'm going to use this. And it's actually pretty awesome. Hater ball. Gator bomb. Cool. Okay. All right. Any other products? Like, we we've got the inside scoop right now. Fragrance we always like to ask you about an hair. Yes, we let your goals. So I have a couple of favorites. So one of my favorites is LeBow Bergamo twenty two and love anything kind of citrusy and clean and fresh anything. Too. Heavy not really a fan of love that one. And also love forget like the exact name of it. It's the the Louis Vuitton Luger celeb- the one that was like the morning day on the mountain. Yes. It's like the not the first launches second linked to it on the blog lovely. Story about that's why I know that one morning day on the mountain it's beautiful, and it's pretty and I feel like both of those. I don't mind like some people change their fragrance per season. Right. Where it's like, you feel like I need my winter fragrance, and you my summer fragrance, I I wear those like, no matter one. Yeah. And then hair here, I for the longest time had really had short hair. So I always had it lays right around my ears. And then I grew it out. I think I started growing at about two years ago. I went through this very awkward phase of where it was like that weird like middle stage, and the now it's finally starting to feel long, and I'm having a lot of fun just like styling it and doing it and stuff, and it just people now like literally just this week have been like, whoa. Where did your hair come from? So I feel like the products that I've been using have been a little bit different to I've been trying to use really hair care. I've been trying to use more clean beauty products have been doing like brio us nature lab, not clean beauty. But like pros sent me somethings. I've been trying that. And then hairstyling I have been not cannot super loyal to anything. I try a lot of different things. I been trying really hard to only wash my hair. Now once a week is this wave you have natural nose. So this is flat iron. Oh, do it yourself. Wow. You really know your way around like a beauty tool. Editor in chief is that. So you're titled we call you like brand content as its editor and chief chief of allure knows her shit. But usually you can outsource that stuff at that level. Well, show DIY girl. Like, I feel like I love I love learning stuff myself. And that's why as much as I could probably find someone to do my nails every week. And that would be amazing and fun. Our listeners, would volunteer. Yes. But I I don't know. I get a lot of enjoyment like learning how to do it myself. And I was not always good at doing. I actually I used to be terrible doing my hair. And so my poor daughter was in ballet, and like, you know, all the moms have to. Bun. Her Bunn was like the Jenkins weirdest looking lopsided. Mommy does for a living. That's so funny. Yeah. So I'm trying really hard to only wash once maybe twice a week. Now, just for like, my hair health. So I I never used to understand dry shampoo before goes up personal owner, STAN like, why do people like this? And now, I'm like, very dry shampoo. I use the bumble one for that. But again, not super loyal. I feel like I have a ton of them have like a whole row of them in my my office. So whatever is they're kind of like spits in my hair. The big thing for me, though, is at my hair's, really black. So there are some of them that make my hair, look, gray. Because. Passed. So that tends to be the thing that like it's either the scent of it, or if it leaves the white cast in my hair that I'm not into one that you love that you can recommend. I think I like the boom boom nourishing one. Okay. That's kind of like my my go-to right now. And then my other may other big pet peeve. I guess about my hair is have a lot of like little flyaways onto all your episode will actually tough. We are. We're sorting that out. Don't wait. So what should I use? You're gonna listen to your full episode of full episode. Okay drops. Well, because people have told me before to do like, the natural hair, the natural fiber toothbrush and set were. Yeah. Yeah, though. Okay. We got you. All right. I was just using like not a great hairspray on it. Maybe needed fatter hairbrush. Maybe fatter toothbrush. Maybe. So my problem have you ever seen like the Asian babies where when their hair's like short their hair, just stick straight up? That's my hair because I have these little baby here's growing there's not like wires like they just stick straight up. I especially if I'm standing against a white background or something like these crazy wires sticking out. Michelle don't through the episode to hear how you did. We might have some help for you. Okay. Good. Was there anything we should've asked you that? We didn't. I'm trying to think about like, even like beauty stuff. I mean may make up. I okay. So the other thing, I'm really. Yes. Yes. Yes. Eyeliner? So I Don through I think maybe in my lifetime tried over a hundred islanders does because I'm so fanatical about it. I'm very fanatical about eyeliner and mascara and sometimes people say to me like, what's your favorite mascara? But I feel like mascara is one of those things it's so personal very percents that like, my lashes are not at all like, your lashes. And so what I may be like in the things I really need. My lashes are very straightened six straight down the very short. So I need something that when a curl them is going to hold my curl someone who has longer lashes doesn't need that for me. The like, mascara wise. I I really really love him using right now land comb Monsieur big water. And I when I tell other people they're like, it's not actually their favorite. I saw Gemma Chan the other day, and I really love. Also, there's the Maybelline the falsities. It's like it's very specific ones mailing the false flare. Waterproof. She's the only other person I've ever met who is like the most a us is Leonard. When I was like that click. You lash twin we'll have lashed twin, and what's the liner that you like, and then the liner the I really keep going back to is MAC brush, stroke oak, Billy really love that one. And I think because I have like monolith is there's the inner corner of my eye actually fold in on its own. So again for a lot of people who if you're is don't do that. My big concern, though is if I get teary in there, or if my eye rubs on it self anything that's not like waterproof. If it doesn't really last it just like is gone within the first twenty minutes. So that one really lasted me. And again, I've tried so many other ones have been disappointed by other ones by keep kind of going co Kelly. I'm glad we ended on Mesko you've been awesome. Thank you so much for coming in sharing all your your story of your career and your favorite products. Thanks lady. Thanks michaud. Jenn. It's time to raise one. I'm so ready. This product is what you wanna wear if you're feeling tired. If you're hungover if you're sick. If you are just a little little under the weather Pissy, anything ready. Pissy face product, go Lor mercy tinted moisturizer SPF twenty aluminum, you really wanna get the eliminating one. That's been around for a while. Right. This is not a new product. I've been wearing this overtime years tug at the ten year challenge here yet tenure challenge right here. Okay. I I used to buy this product. We talk about like, you know, my year of people like my year of rest to relax ation. This is my year of spending real money on products. Okay. When I worked for space K, and we got like a discount, but we didn't get like full on gratis on everything which is trying to say she'd liked it that much. Okay. This is forty six dollars. I how is it different from regular? This has tiny tiny tiny little shimmery particles as some people find it to shimmery. I'm not gonna lie. I'm one of them. I know this product oh this product. Okay. I don't. I think it's just enough. Just this call her Gloag as. I think it really gives you an all over glow that doesn't feel to disco. But it's definitely is a shimmer, you know, who else cosigns product Daniel Martin. And he's all about like a beautiful eliminated does skin that doesn't look shimmery. Just looks go. It looks real. But it's definitely a glow. And I think this with just like minimal like a little lip gloss. Miscarriage all you need for that kind of naturally gorgeous. Look. Okay. You know what else? Do you need to die? When you see what I have? Luma fi drops like this is like real. Yes. For real. Okay. Luma fi. Is this Baoshan? It's Abou Shalom are drop that doesn't manufacturer doesn't work like Vaso constrictor like the old drops where you'd get rebound redness and all that. I know I sound like an ad, but truly we're not sponsored truly. And so you know, what they're calling them at work. Mike coworker Taylor. I started using him. And I was like I wonder if anybody else has realize these are really good like you're I make up just looks better member showed you that before photo, you those it makes your eyes whiter in this way that like you'd put it the end of the day when you're just looking blah, forget the illuminating moisturizer. Honestly. This makes a big enough difference that I put in eyedrops, and I'm like, I look so much brighter. You know, what she calls them doll is slick. The big blinky, you know, so her and her girlfriends when they're going at it. And I where's Dalai's. Where's all is like the only bought one bottle for their roommates? And everybody's like sharing it like it says something is only ten bucks to. But like one drop in each I. And if you've contacted us ten minutes before I think, you put your context, just so, you know, but I don't know. I was never into eyedrops. They never really seemed to work. And then I was always worried about like, you know, and then I need them. And I'm hooked on them. I'm not me on this. But I totally noted if it's endorsement, yeah. So dalai's. There you go you'll be khloe under skin glow in your eyes. Oh, this is a good combo. He right. You're welcome. Everybody. Thanks so much for listening. We're growing because of people like you telling your friends family and everyone else and your network about the show. He sure to follow us all the social networks at Patmos garra. And if you want to drop us a line to tell us how great we are or complain or suggest something that we should talk about. It's info at fat mascara dot com. You can also give us a rating on itunes. If you like what you hear? How many stars five stars? Please.

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Celeste Thomas - How to Achieve Glowing Skin/ Holistic Skincare

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Celeste Thomas - How to Achieve Glowing Skin/ Holistic Skincare

"The following podcast is a deer media production what's up guys welcome back to the what we said podcast i'm jay see the red had half i haven't said that in a minute i'm literally a minute chelsea and i am the brunette half was some blonde highlights lights i'm so happy to say that nowadays woo chelsea said literally a minute because we just recorded a different intro but i actually the reason i said that is because i haven't been saying i'm not part of the red have been saying that we get sick of it and then we stopped saying and then we start saying again and you love it someone drew the cutest thing it was like i'm dc i'm the burner and the redhead it was so cute and we need to give her shot up let's look gobert scramming today we have celeste thomas on the podcast and we love her you guys she is so knowledgeable and we're gonna talk about here in just a second but first we're going to give a shoutout to sascha rafael designs s. a. s. k. i. a. r. a. h. AT l. a. design oh wow that is that's a long name yeah we're gonna have a quick little review shadow we haven't done this in a second so okay we love to feature some reviews on our podcast because we really appreciate the so much and i know that it okay it it takes a few seconds no hard but i know that it kind of takes time to you know guardia rain do it so we really appreciate those of you who do it and you may think it doesn't make a huge difference but honestly it helps our podcast at ton if you rate and review it because it helps get more well known so that people can find it on the apple podcast app or on whatever and it gives us honestly more opportunity so it's were super grateful anyway this one is called favorite podcasts five stars jason chelsea are funny insightful inspiring genuine and beautiful human being so i feel as though i've come to know so so well i've been listening to them every tuesday since the beginning wow and OG they were the very first podcast i've ever listened to and i've been hooked since on their show they talk about things ranging from from pop culture to personal growth and they always have amazing guests they have empowered me so much and i can honestly say that listening to their podcast has brought me out of a dark place and into the confidence strong woman i know i am meant to be if you're looking for a positive part of your week that brings you laughter inspiration definitely give them a listen em dot hoffman on instead i'm tearing up yeah yeah that is so sweet yeah we chose these actually crying i'm tired you guys you know allergies ukraine i made you cry gotcha awesome yeah i know IBM thinking that listening i'm like what is this life that we live i know it's just so cool you guys have made this possible and it's really amazing anyways anyways before we get real emotional over here our guest today celeste is like jaycee said amazing she came in and we're like wait we love her she's zoe deal yeah she's awesome her skin let's i get this out of the way we said this in the episode but her skin is glowing literally which is good because she is a registered nurse she's an advocate for holistic skin care she has a lot of eat to glow recipe she's all about glowing from the inside out talks about nontoxic beauty products and her blog is amazing it's called the true spoon so go check it out also on this episode there's so many good a little tidbit yet take away from it she talks about kabukicho if you guys are wondering if it's actually good for you those probiotics you hear about she talks about that you might be surprised by the answer answer talk about what foods are good to eat for your skin waterbed you guys will be surprised by some of these answers yeah definitely and she also gave some recommendations for some non toxic beauty you products and i kind of wanted to pick her brain on why it's important to stay away from toxic beauty products and toxic chemicals on your skin because sometimes i feel like that's just something that people say but it's like wait but why like what are these chemicals doing you know what i mean so yeah because she does have that background of being a nurse and she just knowledgeable no she knows her stuff so yeah the and she also talks about sorry i just thought about this that is really interesting to me misdiagnosing your skin and we've kind of talked about this on our previous podcast with an institution but talking about drivers dehydrated skin and what you think you're doing to fix it but it's maybe not even the problem in the first place in getting to the root of all your skin problems problems the root of all evil of all evil is bucci is acne that's true yeah but she she gives good advice for like finding out your true you know what the what the deals with your skin so i think you guys are gonna love this episode i can promise you you'll learn something now take notes else take notes without further ado here is celeste okay it we have celeste here how are you thanks for coming i am ben tastic it is so good to be here with both w just finally being on the show i mean not that i ever thought i would be but after you having like taza and these amazing influencers on it's it's just such an honor to be sitting with view in hollywood it's an honor to have you and it's always an honor like we have all these guests that we've had on duck innately okay so we like to eat a little background guests where you grew up and what kind of kid were you so i was born on awas who was actually born on a loom amazing which was amazing i was there through early elementary school and then i moved back to portland oregon where my mom's from and so spent the majority of my life in oregon but i still feel like i have a little bit of hawaiian me and what kind of kid was i am the exact same as i was then clumsy and goofy and silly and very inquisitive and very true to that my whole life yeah that a okay so give us a little bit of your skin history so you were mentioning right before this that you have acne prone skin and then i was like wait is not the same as oily skin so kind and tell us what kind of skin you have been all that good stuff yes so my mom had really bad acne growing up and around adolescence i started to get it as well also i always thought that i had oily skin i had tons of breakouts i was always trying to use like really stringent products from the drugstore that said acne on them to try to fix my acne and heal my skin and now after learning truly what skin type i have i have sensitive acne prone skin but i was over stripping it so it was producing more oil to compensate for what i was doing to my skin that make sense yes so it's like i i think i have acne or i think i have oily skins i'm doing a wrong and some people do genuinely have oily skin i have just found through my community unity of obsessed people that a lot of people think they have oily skin but really they're drying it out and your skin's overproducing yeah well how did you figure that out as about to say how do you get to the root of what skin type you have i feel like the best way to get to the root of it is going to an institution if you're not very well versed because it can can be really really complex and having an expert really look at your skin is a very very helpful way to determine some people just know but if you're confused is like a lot of people think they have really early skinned think they have rose atia think they have cystic acne like all of these really intense diagnosis that they themselves then he yes and then they find out like oh no i'm just sensitive and using too harsh things or oh i have one simple but it's not assist so sometimes it's just good to get at least one facial even just to have an esthetician diagnosed like what kind of skin type you have i can attest to that because i thought i had dry skin um my skin was always kind of just flicking flaky and no matter how much moisture is very put on it just would not hydrate it and i went to an institution and she's like you actually have combination skin yeah and you're not exfoliating that much so your the product is not penetrating your skin and i was like oh lightbulb moment this whole time i've thought i've i've had dry skin so i do think that's a really good piece of advice to go to an institution at least get one facial because sometimes it's hard to commit till i'm going to get a month because that can be pricy you but holy and there's certain things that esta titians can really help you so it's good that you want but there are just so many components when it comes to skin and that's why i teach about holistic realistic practices food and products because there's so many components to your skin and you can't just say you know give yourself one diagnosis or try one thing and have it works so that's why i created a holistic skin-care blog just to try to demystify things for people and make it more streamlined and easy take takeovers getting yeah and i think what i love about your blog too and like what you stand for is the what you eat and i think obviously we all know like oh you know you are what you eat but i don't think people apply that as much to skin as other things where it's like oh i need to buy this really expensive skin care stuff when it's like nothing's workings workings like well maybe you're just eating things that are clogging up your scanner whatnot totally in this skin is kind of the last place you see things in your lifestyle that are unhealthy so you could have a really unhealthy gut eat unhealthy food layer by layer and then eventually you see it on your skin and it's a generalized systemic inflammation that you see come out in the form of breakouts and redness and different things like that that physically apparently were all really interested ed but we don't think about the root causes of what's actually going on i love that definite listen up people listen she's the real deal we'll speaking of the real deal so you're a registered mr nurse let's get the background on that what made you interested in pursuing nursing so i come from a family of nurses my grandmother's riner smy ansa nurse and i was always very interested in science that goes along with my kind of inquisitive mind and you know i think having problem skin i was always interested interested in learning more about it so kind of joining you know medical science all the things in my family background plus interest made me wanna go to nursing in school so i went to nursing school nursing school they really cover every system in the body they cover skin they cover hormones they cover nutrition and i had such a good good background in really whole body wellness when i graduated from nursing school and decided to go into the celtics field and you know work with plastic surgeons and dermatologists and use that kind of passion for skin care kind of selfishly to learn how to heal my own skin because i was still really acne prone and breaking taking out and once i got to that place and tried amazing dermatologists and tested every single prescription i found that the western western method of treating my skin wasn't working and that i had to really delve deep and learn more than just what was in my textbooks in order to heal my skin yes you have the perfect combination of western eastern kind of rowdy on so when did you start the true spoon and kind of explain what the true spoon is to everyone everybody yeah so the the true spoon is a holistic skin-care blog where i share eat to glow recipes which is really just my way of eating healthy glowing skin i share skin care practices is i share products pretty much everything to inspire skin confidence in my readers amazing and i started it in two thousand fourteen and it was really just a place to have tips and tricks for family members and friends who had asked me 'cause they knew i was so passionate about trading my skin and people would start asking me so it started moore's recipes and then as i started a social media i just got more and more questions about what products i was using and what practices actresses i had at home so now i share kind of all three categories of holistic skin-care amazing we always into cooking too yeah always away from the time i was a little kid my grandparents are huge foodies i spent a lot of time with them so you can just combine all of them yes yes so what are some foods or things that you can add to your diet glow so many things but i'm gonna start with something that's very near and dear to my heart which is pre and probiotics ex- i brought you love some of my coconut yogurt wait to brought us food which is the way to our hearts everyone's art oh but i brought you my co yo that i make all the time i love it it's a probiotic coconut yogurt so i love to include probiotics in my diet every day and i like them in food forms because they're really bioavailable and healing your gut is what bioavailable mean yeah violent bailable tell me in your body can utilize it right away and really efficiently how versus some probiotics that you might take pill form aren't necessarily getting absorbed and utilized by your body if they're not exactly right for you or quality i've oh sorry a world like we're probably say the same thing honestly we'll so okay i have i got these probiotic gummy things sent to me what is your take on that like do you think that's effective or no there's so much science that goes into creating a a great probiotic and i know they're fantastic ones out there i just don't have a lot of faith that any probiotic that comes with any kind of refined sugar will be valid or at all i feel like any scientists whose putting all their time and energy into creating the most bioavailable source of probiotics would not put would it with something that's damaging to the gutless sugar yeah that makes sense but i don't know this product so sad to hear because it really is the candy and i was like this is like a good way to get my probiotics and then i'm loving it but that makes sense what was your question is even say oh i have i've heard that the i mean again not rag on any particular company but i've heard that proud exact common the pill forms usually are dead by the time i'm you get them right which is true and it's very koch again i said the camera you got it's complex but really i've i found personally that making fermented food or buying high quality organic fermented food is the best way for me to support microbiome and have a healthy gut so step up one fermented food really really fantastic varied glow another some other fermented foods yes so kimchi sauerkraut and any kind of pickled fermented veggie indifference differ but yeah i've only had vegan kimchi but it should be vegan yellow of it is not usually meet income kimchi oh cool yeah those they're made like shellfish or something we'll maybe fish certain right yeah okay cool so do you do you think that it tastes like what's the scale here are you like this these products that have like taste delicious they're not great but i'll do it for the the you you know affects i'm obsessed i love it okay i love it i love food i love seeing if you like pickled food i don't know if i like our sun vinegar chips appropriate yeah that's a great business idea okay i'm doing nothing my life my life co. you'll love the appropriate coconut yogurt for for those who don't like piccoli things like weird funky things if you like yogurt and this is all just hey here's japan has gotten so much less picky yeah you cannot still label me as chelsea i feel like i have gotten way less picky now you're our congrats i thank you thank you but don't push your mental just not ready one time she will what are some other foods they were going to mention yeah so so i think green tea is a really great glow food it has tons of antioxidants to fight free radicals and your skin and it's something that's very easy that everyone one could do it's low cost and there's lots of evidence based research studies with green tea over long periods of time that it really has antioxidants going to benefit and boost your skin amazing so that's great another eagle with it's my favorite is sweet potatoes i love sweet potato sweet potatoes amazing they have tons ends of beta carotene which is one of the top skin foods vitamin c they're just fantastic and they're delicious so good now what about to merick tomb rick is another her skin food there's a lot of studies that have shown that tumor is an antioxidant that's fantastic for you i just didn't bring it up because i personally think it tastes like dirt really i love turmeric it's like one of my favorite flavors weirdly enough turmeric mark or tumor i hear fado potato i hear him to marry right turmeric to so to moraga yes but go for it if you love that i love it and there's so many options you can find what works for you and stick with it you don't have to get crazy and do all the things all the time but i mean huge advocate of like little by little incorporating certain things and then it becomes what do you think about kabukicho what do you think it you know holds to its claims of being a superpower food i'm against it you are japan most companies that i've found on the market and i actually did a write up on computer for an online magazine so i've done a lot of research and if it's not organic they're using t- that's been treated with pesticides and then they're putting sugar with it and creating a beverage again you don't know how bioavailable any the bacteria is if it's actually going to help you plus i just don't believe in sugary beverages and some of them have a lot of do you have certain brands of kabukicho gotcha organic kabukicho that you can recommend her you haven't found one there are there's one call dr brew i love that okay great yeah that's a good one it's high quality when you taste it taste like they're some fermentation and at which i wanna taste that funky venice to know that there's a lot of active bacteria syrian there okay so i'm going back to your coconut yogurt yeah you have that recipe on your bloggers in your book or where can people find this weekend either link it or so i have it on the blog ugh okay i'll make sure to give you guys willing that for you guys in the description perfect okay now awesome foods to avoid we just said bad khumbu what what does mother ones this one is so important to me i just feel like even before telling people what they should incorporate just cutting certain things or so impactful so one of the major things things is refined sugar as we all know that's a tough one so hard but when you really think about how much inflammation it causes in the body you will directly see the the impact on your skin aging fine lines acne redness pretty much everything that could go wrong with their skin acne acne renaissance asia sugar plays a part in it so just reducing that an i'm all for natural sugars if you wanna eat a date if you wanna need an orange whatever that's fine but it's all those refined sugars even honey for me it's so glycemic lee high in there so much sugar i would just try to cut it as much as possible really okay and if you guys were to see see her skin i mean you can if you go to her instagram yet we should've mentioned this at the very beginning us spying on a window she was like this is a testament i'm like yeah if i can look like that then i'm getting rid of all my your skin looks beautiful i was saying spray tan so it's the secret and yes it really okay so for someone who's listening in is just like this is overwhelming i mean we all know there's so many different there's so much different information out there so so many round your dumb if you're overwhelmed that's normal but for someone who's just listening is like what is something i can incorporate today or tomorrow that's what's first baby step that someone could take to have glowing skin i think the first step no matter how old you are anything saying you know where you're where you're at right now whatever your routine is is really learning how to wash your face a lot of people don't properly cleanse their skin so they're going day after day with toxins from the environment all of their makeup products anything just kind of stuck on their face they're sleeping and not sebnem dead skin cells all of that and they're never getting a fresh start and letting their skin breathe always a what is the right way to wash your skin yes so i advocate for a one an minute wash with a gentle massage so every day morning and night i wash my face for one minute your hands or with a wash cloth with with my hand okay and like an upward motion in little circles and one great way to test this to see if you fully cleanse your face is to take a wet cotton ball or cotton auden pad after you wash your face and wipe it on your skin and see what's leftover cave absorb true because sometimes i will wash my face and then i have a why in the sock whitewash caught dry with and i'll be patting dry and like still seeing makeup and i'm like wait what and then i realized it's probably not good to put put you know then be putting serum and moisturizer on make up it's like it's probably gonna make right so you're just literally putting expensive things on top of steverman oil and dirt and makeup it's not penetrating into your skin and if anything it's actually going to potentially clog your pores make you break out totally great everyone can do do that yeah in a minute that's a long time like i definitely don't wash for that long so i think that's a good tip i could definitely have you had toothbrushes that time you yeah i'm always like like okay and i'm like oh wow i on a regular basis absolutely not and i just love that because no matter like i said where are you on your journey you have a minute and you probably have a face wash and you can make that happen plus the massage help stimulate blood flow which brings nutrients to the skin so you're getting a little bit more dewey plumpy glow no matter what yeah okay well kind of backtracking a little bit but for someone who so i think in LA LA obviously we're really lucky to have so many healthy options i mean green juice on every corner everywhere you look we have you know healthy options but i have friends who who live in places where they're like i wish i had that stuff available to me so maybe for someone who's listening who is like cable i don't have i don't live in LA i can't just go down the street and get a you know this biotic zoos on every corner so what can they do as far as food goes to to help i'm a huge advocate of home for meditation i make all my own fermented foods i make my own kogo actually made an e book to teach people how to make their own fermented foods home and it's super easy moving it's really hard yeah i met his scare to it's so simple and just having someone kind of break it down for you so helpful so that's a great way i mean i think that if you can't find find it you can make it and investing a little time and effort into learning and then you have that skill for life definitely and i don't know this is kind of i'm i'm going on random tangents but even like i think it's important to note even when someone thinks they're being healthy so for example like i drink almond milk what can with my cereal but i looked at the back of the one i had and it's like sugar no and i'm like wait kidding i thought it was you know being healthy so that's also so an issue in today's world where people like healthy i'm doing this this this and i'm still not getting the results or my skin still whatever it's like you have to be mindful of that we have to be our own advocate tickets for skin care and it's so scary i mean the e. u. they have really strict standards for skin care they have over thirteen hundred ingredients banned in the US we have eleven ingredients band and so just show you yeah with everything you have to read labels you have to really kind of educate yourself at least a little bit in order to know how thereto label where to look to find something good for you or not and you know the e. WGN i don't know if you guys have heard of e WG the environmental working group group has a skin deep database where you can put in the name of any product you have and it gives you a clean score so you can do that or your product doc and then you know reading labels for your food yeah so how do you get how do you access to that yes so just online skin deep database e WG and you can put in all your products and if it doesn't have your product you can just go buy ingredient and it'll give you you know one to two is completely nontoxic three to five is moderately toxic and then after that not very toxic wow have you heard on this have you heard of the think dirty app is that one accurate that one's accurate i don't find that it has as has many products on there i like to use kindy because it's easier more stuff to now that we've talked about the dirty up before our podcast mhm okay well can you get specific for us on what you eat in a day yeah we want we want everything even the snacks even though drinks you have so from the moment you wake up yep okay first thing in the morning i have just hot water just some water hot water yeah i dabbled in acupuncture for a little while and my acupuncture among sherzai to start the day with something warming is really good for my constitution i guess then it feels good it's like cold ice water in the morning is very american but it is kinda harsh on your system so i've been doing hot water in the morning i like it feels cozy cozy perfect for fall and then i'll do a four matic mushroom coffee we love force we love forcing matic roommates and i love their mushroom coffee it's fantastic it's not only organic gannex with low inflammatory but it's not as caffeinated which is really great for your skin caffeine is a bazo constrictor so it tightens your blood vessels and actually prevents nutrients going to do your skin not to get too nursey on you get to now no we love it get nursing so forcing biting westrom coffee than i've been on a major cawley oats kick so it's half frozen rice cauliflower half oats and it's really great prebiotic fiber so it feeds your microbiome and you're healthy you got bugs can i ask what the difference between prebiotics and probiotics s so prebiotics is what your bacteria eats probiotic is the bacteria so it's the food good for the bacteria and the bacteria interesting yeah i did not know that can you get specific about why probiotics are so important did you already did we talk about that not we need more depth on that yes so one of the reasons why probiotics is so important in today's society is were eating foods that have been treated with pesticides sides which killed the bacteria then were pasteurizing it then where what are we doing we have you know worshipping russian yeah it's pretty much every practice that we have with a modern food system were killing bacteria we're sanitizing and packaging it by the time you get food home it doesn't have any of the healthy bacteria area that your ancestors had that would actually get into their gut and really helped them break down all the nutrients they ate there's so many things we can't fully breakdown without healthy gut packed area so if you can't if you don't have a healthy gut and you can't break down all their food or eating then you can't fully absorb all of the nutrients from the foods foods and then you don't have the nutrition that you need to build new college in boston and have plump healthy skin so really it just this breakdown in your or system and it wasn't a problem in the past because no matter where you're from the world every one of your ancestors had a fermentation practice they weren't taking a bunch of antibiotics and they you didn't have sterilize food and so now we just we need to focus on that's a really that into high gear 'cause i don't i don't not good about probiotics attics prebiotics but that's really good to know okay wait keep going with your your diet earlier today so call holly oh i'm like obsessed and i put go jeez in there all collagen collagen really want to be only a supplements that i take because it has amino acids that help produce collagen in your skin it's not an immediate you take collagen you see collagen but collagen actually helps your cells build more collagen and what what is collagen and yeah how why does that help you yeah so collagen is from meat source it's usually from either organ meats or tendons or different parts of the animal animal that we don't really eat these days so we don't have a lot of it in our diets and you need three of the amino acids in that kind of collagen do build collagen your skin gotcha i really like grass-fed sources of collagen so i do grass-fed beef collagen you can get it from a lot of different animal sources and don't they have vegan collagen or no that doesn't exist because it is from an animal i swear i saw something we just saw it at moon juice they had something in collagen where would they get that from its mushroom based east okay so i don't know if it's exactly the same but i think it has some of the same skin boosting properties so you're gonna call it okay so you add collagen collagen everyday then everyday to your diet okay yeah that's what the call and then you know in the afternoon i try to make like a huge thing of some sort of t- not whether it's green tea or a herbal tea or something with some antioxidants if you love to mark you could do a tumor team and really make sure you're getting your hydration kinda supplemented with some mm accidents and then i was doing a lot of salads but my acupuncture s it's all about the worming foods i'm giving that ago okay so i loops is fall fog at that soon bon yeah and really for me i change it up all the time but i really really try to get in tons of organic veggies yeah i mean everyone says that but or the organic component is so important to gut health because when things are treated with pesticides kills all the happy got bugs so organic organic veggies IM personally meat eater so i love salmon is my favorite the omegas are fantastic for skin says he loves salmon i love salmon yeah best just the best ever some all about that salmon life some other kind of protein if it's not salmon and i love making sweet potato fries oh let let's just sounds so good right now right yeah we'll salmon's we did of rizal veggies that's kind of my typical lunch and then dinner is usually some form form of that same kind of thing proteins greens veggies and do my best not to smack that's really because i i feel like when your body is currently in a state of digestion you have inflammation that builds up in your gut so i tried to let my body fully digested meal before i go into the next x one makes sense yeah that does make a lot of sense after your dinner are you done for the night or do you ever eat a some sort of dessert or snack after so i do actually really love like a spoonful of prophetic coconut yogurt or like a sugar free lillies chocolate chip moment lor just something that's doesn't have sugar in it so i'm okay with a tonic with stevia or something stevie among fruit really into that but i don't do dessert every night so do you personally never for each sugar i'm an eighty twenty kind of girl okay i like to live yeah you know i feel like the fraction for life yeah with most things in this room sorry on the tangent that i wanted to go on was acupuncture living interested so why did you start art yes me it started with ahead an old car accident injury and i had some pain on one side and then was feeling a little off hormonally not tim i don't think you guys care about being TMI but we don't i was screaming in the bathroom when other people tamp on when i shy no and on that tip yeah i just have always had a regular periods my whole life finish like trying to balance my hormones through food and acupuncture and so just kind of trying acupuncture accupuncture for hormone balance okay and has that helped you it has when i'm really consistent with it i do like my cycle is more regular and i have it's better but sometimes it's hard to say consistent with every wellness practice him very hard and that's why saying it's sometimes it's overwhelming i have net liking tenjin so that's why i've been interested who says you should try trying i'll do it for you know thank you i y DIY acupuncture does it that's what i wanna know i was about to asa does it hurt i have a really high pain threshold okay baby well i had a friend who said it doesn't hurt too much but then in the areas that you are trying to affect the trying to fix your sensitive that are connected whatever where it's like yeah big toes connected to whatever sometimes that spot spot that you're sensitive in will hurt like if my neck was hurting and there's a part of my body that's connected like if that's a point of weakness maybe at her on you won't feel it you'll feel it for sure wash i'm it's weird for me because i'm claustrophobic and it's funny because i get closer begin acupuncture just because i have needles immune and someone leaves me and i'm stuck and i'm just like what happens we are you how long are you left like twenty thirty minutes what if there was a fire drill and you listen to a a podcast or something you're supposed to just okay JC into a pumped up i see you it seems like a pumped up podcast while you're trying to relax we're not some me up goodness i've seen you mentioned on your instagram the difference between dry and dehydrated skin and this kind of goes back to the oily versus you know you don't really know exactly what's the problem till you get to the root of it but i'm so bad at drinking water and my i was just telling JC i said i feel like i drink water throughout the day of my husband told me it takes instead of goping some like i probably get like eight ounces or something like that horrible to drink is there no i i get more than that but tell us the difference between dry and dehydrated can cause i'll tell you explained it so dehydrated skin is lacking water water and dry skin is lacking oil see you can be dry and dehydrated and you really have to treat your body with moisture rich like water moisture rich products and drink water in order to get that hydration from both sides internally and externally and then to moisture is topically you're gonna use something with oils that are really hydrating and then you really do something like a salmon with omega threes other healthy all the fats in order to kind of moisture is internally that's good to know that is very good to now so if someone does my skin look dehydrated it it does actually you could have of a little bit more and waster and hydration and it's really not that challenging it's just increasing your water maybe i don't know how your healthy fats we're doing actually pretty good then you're good with that and then just finding some really hydrating products that you do before you add moisturizing products products right have you tried since you like four matic tried their superfood serum you know what i have not i was going to ask you i think about it i love it i i put down i i mean i haven't i'm really going to spray tan i don't touch my face right which is bad for after the spray tan and if you get a street and you can still put on your hydrating and moisturizing strays including care products on top of it play true yeah it's all good now me chugging water now she's like i know i well the thing is it's hard because sometimes sometimes with skin issues you don't know that you don't know if your skins dry dehydrated 'cause i was at a point probably a year ago where i'm chugging chugging water every day and i'm like it's not working because i think you know all bunch of factors that sometimes isn't the the answer for some people because they are educated to know oh my skin's actually not dehydrated needs you know whatever and you do have to treat your skin from the outside side n the inside diana thing everyone needs hydration and moisture no matter who you are what your skin type is just finding the ingredients that work for you and it's also about order of operations when applying skin care when you see people with dry skin and they're like oh my skin's dry but it's actually dehydrated and then they put oil on top of it it actually can't can't get into the poorest because it's molecular too big so you need to be doing yeah you think about it it's like you have sand and then you have rocks right so you like you need certain parts of the of the let's say hole in the ground are too big for the rock or too small for the rock what do you call it but the sand needs to fill a first the rocco's on top that was just an on the fly analogy so don't try to make you earn but using things that are lower molecular weight like lightweight mists and serums before you do any oils or moisturizers is essential for all skin types what let me ask you what kind of mists you like i don't know if i can throw at them but mario badescu i did their rose water in the think dirty up and did not do well the dirty adam yeah yeah that went off like a red alert yeah so what are your favorite mists i love so many miss i'm like down for almost any nontoxic missed i'm down for any nontoxic miss that doesn't have alcohol in it okay i'll is drying and no toxins please okay i know alcohol that's good to know what about like an apple cider later rosewater one i'm open to that but it just depends on what skin type you have because apple cider can be kind of harsh if you're really sensitive skin skin and it's it's a little too harsh for me but i love ones with rose and ones with aloe and really soothing hydrating ingredients that are going to bring in that moisture and water water before you put on oils from stressor catano yeah so you are definitely an advocate for non toxic beauty products skin care products why is that so important and for someone at home who's like i don't care what goes on my skin like give us a little lesson on that yeah and i just touched on before how you know the EU versus the US and and really we have to be your own advocate because there's no legislature that's protecting us from toxic ingredients in our country and issue is a lot of these chemicals are known carcinogens listen agenda or they're known hormone disruptors and if you're trying to do all these wellness things but you're literally putting cancer causing hormone disrupting items items on your face that absorbs directly into your bloodstream like what's the point total ensure you know right drink whiskey all day NS gracious it is scary world so what are some things to look out for like how do you know what a good skin care product i guess you just check on that that website that database is is a good idea yeah there's so many chemical names that even someone like myself who spends hours every week really researching skin care and knowing ingredients not not only do labels changed the names of them they'll put a different chemical name just to confuse people if a toxic chemical becomes well known like phthalates for example example phthalates everyone knows a lot of people know now that that's a toxic ingredient so brands are putting that on the label anymore they're putting different chemical name of the same substance on the lima uh-huh confuse people and greenwashing is so huge just because an ingredient says it's organic it could have one ingredient that's organic and it could be the smallest amount amount of oregon it oh yeah that's rhode terrible gary rude so the best the best thing to do is either shop from places he says that you know are all non toxic you can trust or you can always DM me you know come to the truth spoon or you can use something like he w g to research chit they'll do all the work for you have to type it in what are some brands off the top of your head that you like that have mostly or all nontoxic so one one that i love it's really really good especially for your listeners that might not be in LA because his brand is at a lot of targets now cocoa kind is fantastic we i just got they're macho stick yes geology man i'm so excited about it it's so good it's great for like chopstick if your nose is dry under is cuticle everything amazing being really excited about that so that brand is great i really really love a brand called tower twenty eight they have amazing lip gloss at i'm obsessed with and i've never heard of that it's they're looking at up very new and lip products one of those that i really really like to talk about because you're ingesting so much of it every day a really you eat it i mean where does it go trae keep re applying going somewhere got put together that that's why i was telling you today why my lips probably get flaky yeah 'cause i'm dehydrate said crispy yes the right word crispy lips i love looking chris today today we what was i going to ask i'm honestly almost scared to ask you because i love it so much do what about the lineage lip mask have you heard of that i've heard of it and seen it but i haven't researched it i tell you but i'm scared to show you the ingredients i think because i don't know no about it and i haven't tried it that it's probably toxic okay but you know what just find what works for you and maybe it's not that bad and there's one ingredient and i don't really think that anyone should throw away their whole make a bag and all this after listening to this it's like you know mindful yeah be educated be mindful maybe next next time that you run out of moscow you'll look and see and find one that's nontoxic and try it out and my dad always says choose the best option available yeah it's great aunt can't great advice i love it does so smart what's i love it he's probably listening he is so what is your absolute favorite skincare product at the moment like something that you're just obsessing over you can utilize multiple you can skin care and beauty oh okay perfect so oh for skin care i started incorporating nontoxic at home heels into my life like eight months ago and my skin has never looked better your skin is very intensely if it's better i'm scared you're so sweet but the the peels are really amazing and i found this one from a brand called naturopathic if i thought golly yeah they're they're pretty well widely distributed so it's not that hard to find but they have a cherry enzyme peel mask ooh that sounds it smells as good as it sounds like a cherry pie and it's fantastic tonight tonight jay yeah i want that where can you get it online you can get it online you can get it the detox market in l. a. if you wanna find close but they have it all over online amazon pretty we sure to okay but it's fantastic just breaking down like the dead skin cells and the cba that's the grossest word but really have to say at all but it really allows you to have like really really glowing beautiful skin you guys if you try it posted on your instagram and tag and tags seles yeah intangible untangle all of us as we can see and then is there a beauty product like a makeup product that you really like that's nontoxic yes so if you want a little coverage and and even though i advocate for skin care and love like just beautiful flawless skin with no makeup we all need a little coverage let's be real ruins welton mountain and juice beauty makes a youth cream foundation that is the only foundation i've used it's on toxic that is flawless and doesn't ball up or peel it lasts forever early belong where power has been and doesn't break meal wiring wiring it right now are you wearing please tell me rings something i have some tinted moisturizer on right now i'm really upset i was about ed runs are on i was about to rage okay cool well that's that's a really get to know the nugget okay do we have quite yes just a few quick quick questions from our listeners ready so do jade rollers work i think jade rollers are great for d puffing if you hide maybe a night out or something like that put it in the fridge and use it i think if you're really really consistent about any kind of facial massage practice it would help with reducing any liquid and the lymph and maybe tighten you a little but it's something that you have to do every day here's all too serious it definitely feels good not because i have a rose courts one yeah courts rose rose courts and a jade one and i love the way it feels like i mean feels like a little massage so i wasn't sure and it's cold oh yeah and i think that's hard too because it's hard to know like i said what's working what's not especially if you're doing a bunch of different things like which thing is working and then your skin gets good you're like like wait which one yet what did i do things do you have any advice for acne scars yeah so my number one advice for acne scars is store sunscreen green it's one of those things if you pick your skin and you have any discoloration it's so essential to protect it from the sun because that'll make your scarring way worse so that's great another thing you can do is the enzyme peels peel mask to help really breakdown dead skin cells faster and faster cell turnover so those those are the two things i would suggest if you can do those two things you're going to be in a really good place and then depending on how bad they are then you can start looking into more intense treatment right would start there okay and last question do you go to an institution and if so how often and what are you get give us the deeds yes so i do i have of an amazing institution in LA tabora at green lane beauty i'm obsessed with her and i go about every six weeks and i get an oxygen facial she does all non toxic products whose rise but yeah i think it's great and it's one of the things that i like to invest in and i know it's it's not something everyone can do what i think a lot of times if we track where our money goes and we realized that we spent a hundred bucks on coffee out in a month or even in two two weeks who knows how much people drink coffee or if you're eating lunch out a lot or if you're buying a lot of close i just think personally like investing and skin care is important to me because zaim acne prone so having an expert in there and do any extractions for me so that i'm not popping and picking things and causing scarring definitely yeah well it is all about priority and it's true it's like when you really take a step back which i had to do with post meets who delivery and new orleans where your money's going it's crazy and there are certain things that even i've said like oh i i can't spend the money on that and then when i stopped to look at it and like i probably could have and i could could have been vested you know it's smarter so let's get to know and we're all in a budget it's just what what's important to you what are you spending your money on totally okay thank you so much celeste for comment on it was so good you guys if 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Ep. 81 #TheDamnGoods Summer Empties Edition

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Ep. 81 #TheDamnGoods Summer Empties Edition

"The following podcast is a deer media production. Guys welcome to the damn goods by breaking beauty are are episodes featuring what products were loving and not so much reviews you can use coming right up to level and let us hey everyone welcome back to breaking beauty podcasts. Hi guys so carleen. It's a damn good episode. Yes it is and i think we've been able able to see from our downloads and the interactions that you guys are loving these product review episodes so we're going to keep them coming right yeah. Absolutely he and i have a confession to make thou get really real here. We had every intention of doing a best of fall preview today yes but <hes> if you've been following us on instagram or we've talked about it in past episodes jilin. I have just been away for a couple of weeks. We both went to the east coast of canada it. It was my first time their jobs from b. I it's so stunning by the way if you guys haven't made it out definitely recommend but because of that we've just we came back and there were like boxes his and boxes and our mailbox and we really just didn't have a chance to give it a fair shake and try absolutely everything. We wanted to try yeah. Some of the stuff is is not even available yet so we're gonna make sure we give it a thorough review and we're going to be doing a best of fall coming up very soon but in the meantime we thought we would do a little roundup of some of the summer empties that have been kicking around our vanities our top shelves because we've been using them so much. I think it says a lot when when we actually get to the bottom of a product is because we do have so many new things that we could try like literally every day. We're getting new stuff. I know <hes> so. It's a good problem to have but you know that we really love something. When it's like good to the last drop and see i wanna share that with you absolutely why not and it's still hot out. I mean i've been still using like a lot of the same products that i used all summer. I'm still using them now. So what else has been happening. We just got back from holiday. I felt that i needed like a pressure ascher walsh from head to toe on how much sunscreen i had been using much how sandy i was. I just went to nashville also for friends bachelorette like just leave everything so yesterday. I went to the shoppers drug mart u._d. Clinic which they offer a lot of like <hes> spa services there and betty betty spa services really so. I got a micro abrasion yesterday and a chemical peel yeah that's skin suit. Ecoles felt like a million bucks. After then. I took an uber over a doctor soulages his office. Little bow talks touch up real talk. You'll in great shape bright so much better already now tomorrow. I'm getting my hair done. I'm getting a man and a petty almost go together so much maintenance. You're going to be back to back to the joe. We know and love ready for your red carpet. Premieres that are coming up. We have love the toronto. International film festival happening here in toronto had such a great time to be here. It's like the time when you'll see a celebrity walking out of a starbucks. I remember last year when you talk to me about seeing green book and then lo and behold that ended up winning the best film at the oscars. I know it was the people's oh right. Sorry it was is the people's choice at tiff yes and then it won the oscar that's right which is huge <hes>. I can't even remember oh. I saw the hate that you give last year but this year i'm seeing the goldfinch adventures starring nicole kidman and <hes> it's going to be so epic. I'm really excited for that. We feel very privileged because laurie al hosts editors and in some of the people that they work with to go to david picot square and you can overlook the red carpet and you get to see the celebrities when you're coming in its little cocktail affair and they also so have a station where they're doing hair and makeup some glomming you have this bird's eye view vantage point of red carpet still like you see the suburbans pull up to the red carpet and latham out steps apps nicole kidman. You're like oh my god and then it's the world premiere of the one. I'm going to the goldfinch so they will. She will actually be there on stage with the director and i read that book many years ago too so i'm really excited at one. I know i'm really i'm really stoked. Who are now what are what are you seeing. I'm seeing the arrow knots okay so that solicited jones. She was a guest on our show. Oh my gosh i forgot what episode it was now but you can go back and listen <hes> she's starring with eddie read main and it's is a film about i think it has something to it's an action adventure but it takes place in the mid to late eighteen hundreds so it's like one of those period pieces. The costumes are gonna ama zang <hes> and it has to do with hot air balloons. Oh well didn't they started together in the stephen hawking movie did so this is the theory of everything <music> so they're being reunited in it's just going to be it's going to be a good red carpet. Show and a good film in seismicity exactly i'll be like what are you wearing your clip oak red carpet facial with that gold mass from cleo arm sure she did. I'm sure she did so so yeah. It's such an exciting time press here in the city. <hes> okay so let's get onto the empties. The summer empties were calling this roundup writing okay. Should we start with skin care absolutely skin-care. I everybody knows that okay. I'm excited because this was a product that landed in my inbox a couple months ago but i didn't have an opportunity to tell you about it and now i am so this is from the ordinary it's their salicylic acid two percent mask and in twelve fifty fifty canadian twelve u._s. dollar so really really affordable. I mask ever right the ordinary so i thought maybe before they would have had like heireann a gas mask. They just have so many ingredients with yeah. They would have had a mask so this is in a tube and you'll notice about it first and foremost is that it's a salicylic elyssa like acid mass like i mentioned so that's h._a. This is for blemish prone skin because we know that sally acidic acid is really great for sort of getting rid of the dirt and grime and gentle until explanation on the skin a lot of silly silly acid treatments and mass. They're clear <hes> but this one when you get it out. The first thing you notice is that it's like inky black jack oh like a charcoal yeah so it has charcoal in it and it also has <hes> some clay in it okay but what i really like about it. Is that i have you can use this all over your face. You leave it on for about ten minutes. I kind of throughout the summer was using it on my tease zone. I had a lot of black heads okay. Jay's really good to get rid of that and what you'll notice when it drives down. It's like it's not dry hard cracking liking where you feel like you can't move your face. You can't talk on the phone while using using the mount exactly so it's so it's inky black and has that charcoal and the klay but it doesn't parks your skin to the point of no return so i thought this was really good especially when i was using using a lot of sunscreen and just feel like there's a lot more dirt and gunk that gets in my pores in the summertime so this was a real win for me and i found myself reaching for it multiple times throughout the week even though they recommend initially only one time a week i think on your own you can get away with it a couple more times per week. In definitely we know notice more like refined skin texture and the black heads are just so added control in the summer so i loved that could just you know senate has that mask. It's not just like a treatment that sort of like ripping the stuff out of your pores. You're actually feeling like it's a little bit moisturizing sale healing on the skin okay so so alan this would be great for urban girls living in the city. Yeah you're going outside and there's so much pollution and because it's so hot i feel like your pores are all open then you know it's almost like there's a natural steaming in the air. That's happening and then all that pollution jumps into your pores absolutely and i think you know anytime you're using a a product that has charcoal in it like get your black face costs because obviously that's the big downside when you take it off all of your white linens. Get this all over it but definitely i use this a lot this summer in for twelve bucks. Give it a whirl. You know <hes>. I have one more thing i wanna talk to you about in terms of drying out any breakouts. Tell me share in. This is like fully empty shaking it on the mike right now. <hes> this is an oldie but a goodie but a recent rediscovery for me and the mario badescu drying drying lotion. I know that bella hadid loves this as well. The ambala like we're basically the same person it's twenty three canadian dollars seventeen u._s. Okay how i use this in comparison comparison to that mask. If i have a giant whitehead or a giant under the skins it like all my chin or something where i'm like this needs to come to a head like something when yeah ben the underground early oh they hurt so much this will dry out in no time at all but will not dry and flake your skin off right because it's actually actually in a glass bottle. You've used this before. Have you ever no. I haven't tried it. I know this is a serious cult brand. I think by the time it started crossing my desk. It's my adult acne was already on its way out but i know people with blemish prone scanner all over this brand so basically when you look at it has like a pink sediment in the bottom and that that is because it has columbine in it okay and then it's like a clear liquid from is so in the bottom of the bottles this pink and then in the top. It's like the liquid so you your inclination because there's that separation is to shake it but i don't owe you use a cotton swab dipped down into the pink bottom layer and then you apply that not strategically on your breakouts okay and so you do see it. There's no hiding it therefore you gotta use those at night. It's like a white thing on your face right. Then you get that big towel. Follow your curlers. So why don't you shake it. What's that what's the deal with that. <hes> it's magic now. I don't know i don't really remember why and <hes> yes you dip the cotton swab and you dabble your zits and voila in the morning they are pretty much dried out and gone at least at the very least they've come to a head yeah and <hes> <hes> the thing that i have sort of returned to this is like i'm not twenty years old anymore and so a lot of the things that you used to rely on in your twenty s to get rid of a white hat or are those undergrounders. It's they're just too a aggressive. The oxy pads you don't use anymore. I've i've retired those so this is really good because it has that callum mine motion. It's you get the drying out of the zip but the not the drying of the skin and then because it's that thing where you get the zig and then <unk> textures all around it. You're trying to cover up the texture mr yeah and the red like if it's dry so i know i used to have that happen to me all the time more apt. Put something so drawing on it and then you it looks equally as bad as i said aetna so then you put the makeup on top actually looks worse yep so this also has sulfur and which purifies pours absorbs the excess oil and salicylic acid acid the main exfoliating ingredient and then cala mind delivers that cooling soothing effect and <hes> yeah. I'm back on this hardcore. I love it so much right up that little little baby pink color. It's also like the millennial pain yeah and i felt like in fashion is having a resurgence absolutely thanks in large part to a lot of celebrities like bella hadid eat who have been putting it on their coal products that and it's were it's word of mouth right. I don't do any marketing. What else is on your list. I'm guessing you don't have any. He sits operas well again. It's very rare that i get as at these days because of my age. I'm you know for those of you. Who don't know i'm forty. Ish let's leave at that so i'm really more about the glow and the product that i've been loving and using all summer is this kora organics. Nonni glow face bomb so thirty eight u._s. and forty eight dollars canadian so this is the maranda kerr line. This is the maranda carolina. It looks like a kind of like a foundation stick. It's really really lightweight. It's in the beautiful lake seafoam green plastic container. It's very very light so it's great eight for trouble and then you just twist it and there's a skin-care bomb inside with this product at a moisturizer. It's meant to be a moisturizer but that's actually what i really like about it is that it has to me what i would call a cosmetic effect so in terms of being a skin product. It's like any other bomb you can use it to moisturizer is <hes> you can use it on lake extremely dry spots. It's got certified organic coconut in it and rose hip oils and then colangelo extracts. Thanks so it antioxidants and essential fatty acids <hes>. That's the skin care part of it for me. I wouldn't put it all over my face. My skin is is just not that dry you definitely could if if you're the type of person who would use like a heavier cream or coconut oil then go ahead and go oh for it i definitely would not put this in my tease own but i really like to use it as i would use a highlighter so it doesn't have any shimmer in it. Obviously it goes on clear but it gives you this instant dewey glow moisturizing and then putting this on top yeah yeah this i would use as like a finishing pricey <hes> and again i would use it just like a highlighter especially highlighter stick so i'd use it on the top of my cheekbones on my brow bone. You can even use it right on your browse and kind of like sweep them upwards and use it as a bit of a brow gel yeah part of the appeal of using this in the summer. It's a bit of an multi-purpose such you know what i really loved it for was my deck holiday because has again. I'm of a certain age that i have all these relief fine lines that are like a lovely fan <hes> all over my chest and i especially do see in the summer 'cause i'm i'm wearing lower cut dresses and tops and it's just i don't know i just found it so easy to use so just are just like take the stick and rub it everywhere all all over my cleavage like really hot and sexy and <hes> happen anyway so it's just it's like a fun one of those products. That's fun to us as well and i think that's actually important when it comes to beauty and makeup or skin care in general you know it's actually in the summertime. It's part of our ritual. It's not on a need to have. It's a nice to have but are just found. I used it a lot more than i thought i wouldn't. That's great up there. And what else did you use. I see something over there. That could be a paperweight it could be. I don't know what it is. I'm almost embarrassed to tell everybody about this next product doc okay. I'm gonna tell you about it is the lemaire genocide still america the eye and expression cream. It is a gorgeous gorgeous product it. It literally is as heavy as a paperweight. You're right so it looks like a little ball is glass on the bottom and a heavyweight metal top. It looks like a spinning top because it has a little handle on the very top of this picture at like a little sphere and at the very top. It's got this little tiny knob and what that is is. It's like i said it is an eye cream. You take that part that looks at the top of a top off and it has a convex ax curve to it and it's metal and a heavyweight medal so you actually use that to give yourself. A little musashi under the is it. It is a skincare tool yeah so that's what you do. You know you open it. You take your skin care. I put a little bit. You know a little bit under each. I'm gonna do right right now. You'll demo on the mike and then you just take that little combacks like i said it's like a roller ball and you just do these like sammy circles. Did you ever see the movie inception. I don't know joel how does doctrine well to tell you because it has leonardo dicaprio and marian coach e._r. Yes and they it was like this just really bizarre thing anytime you saw this top spinning like shit was about to go out of control inclines me of that. Let's see if i can spend at near. Look it. Now in your life is about to. I know i know i don't i don't i want to unseat that okay but honestly i am obsessed with this product because this thing it doesn't matter if it's in the fridge or not this little metal thing always stays cold. I don't know what the hell they put inside but it always stays freezing cold and and i don't know if i've mentioned this on the air before but i live in an old victorian and my upstairs bathroom is really really tiny so we dug down and refinished refinished our basement and put like a spa bathroom down there so i get ready in the basement yeah every day so my products are cold anyway so i put it on and it just like wakes up got my eyes. It's so lovely gives us extra brightening effect and like the cream is obviously gorgeous as well but why are you embarrassed to talk about it because because if people go out to buy this product it is four hundred twenty five dollars you ass. I did not know that this was gifted to me from whole run for thank you holtz. They opened their beauty hall <hes> in the spring so it's like this really lovely floor all about beauty downstairs in the underground and <hes> when actually looked it up. That was the cost in canada. It's actually four ninety yeah and i think we should. We forgot to say off the top but we meant to is that some of the things we're we're talking about. Our old favorites in summer brand new hot off the presses so this is one. I think has been around for a little bit. You were saying <hes>. This one launched a couple years ago but it's new to to me so i don't know how helpful that was in terms of how many people will actually go out and buy this but i can guarantee you like you know. The spokespeople for this brand are so in love with that like makeup by mario. Isn't he like lemaire person. I think patrick taya like they're probably all over this. Shed yeah it is so this is like a dream. Mm product decadent feel so nice to us. Yes like you're doing a ritual one hundred percent it just takes off so many boxes except for the price so i'll be using this until the very eerie last job and i might even find some other art cream and put it and using it. That's very earmuffs lemaire. Well you know what lemaire is out there. We don't talk about them a lot but there's without question it's a cult brand and it is amazing to us. There's a reason on their front and center as socks. Bergdorfs bernie's the rest of it so listen. It is what it is. Your eyes are not going to be dry using that but i kid you not i do. I feel like i see less lines around my eyes and i don't know if that's my imagination or not. I've been using it all summer and i don't know i don't know i saying and the other thing that they love about products like that that have mechanism that you love is you are more inclined to use it yeah and it's sitting there on your bathroom. You're like oh. I can't wait for that moment. It's like feel like that cooling sensation around my one hundred percent and listen. I think i've said this before <hes> on the show when i was talking about my previous one of and my other favorite i products which is the touch harper illuminating. I claim i really feel like a lot of eye creams. Just bullshit is just like why don't i take my my face cream. All the way up to my is really the skin is that then really needs that much extra whatever so. I like a little extra in my eye cream. It's gotta be you doing a little something like that tatchell harper. It gives you this gorgeous shimmer. This 'cause matic backed this one. It's all about that ball. It just gives me an extra little bright missing missing yeah cooling and deep huffing dots what makes an eye cream and went to me. Yes i knew up linked to all of these on our blog by the way breaking beat podcast dot com so you can. I can see a picture of this as well yeah. I know it's hard to put it on social media. Yes carol guys quick break. We're gonna shout out one of our stellar show sponsors time for our weekly wellness check in. What are you doing to be kind to yourself these days as joe okay for anyone who has not heard. I have been drinking forcing matic. It's basically mushroom coffee which sounds a little odd but it is legitimately coffee. It's made and one hundred percent organic or rabah beans. That's right. It does not taste like mushrooms. I repeat does not taste like mushrooms. I kind of would be fine if it did like. Give me a mushroom pizza and glasses sauvignon blanc. I'm so happy maybe after five p._m. And a._m. I need something that tastes like coffee so the best way to describe it. It's like a cooler alert version of instant coffee. My favorite is the mushroom coffee with lines main and chagas yet scott those really buzzy ingredients. Everyone's talking about right now that lion's mane it's believed it can improve memory concentration and protect your nervous system actually read all about it in this book hewing mushrooms a practical and culinary guide. Oh jesus mushrooms for whole body health <hes> and you're hurting out. I see so that was written by the founder of forcing matic terro is coppola and it's basically like a recipe book of soups and smoothies you can make yourself is a fun guy tyra dajo <hes> i love that it's a sense to me so you just tear open the packet at hot water and boom. You're ready. You have your instant coffee. Forcing matic has a special offer for breaking beauty listeners definitely hop on over two four sigmatic dot com slash beauty or use the discount code beauty at checkout to get fifteen percent off your force sigmatic purchase. That's the f. o. U. r. s. i g. m. a. t. i c. Dot com slash b. e. a. u. t. y. Or use the discount code beauty for fifteen percent off your force matic like purchase now back to today's episode. This is all about summer empties and we would be remiss to not talk about s._p._f. We know we did that. Huge sunscreen green episode sunscreens four face. A damn good spec in july was a july. I think so okay after that episode aired. I discovered a new daily e._s._p._n. F thirty this one is from dermot logica prisma protect s._p._f. Thirty moisturizer for face mrs eighty nine canadian. I imagine it's slightly less than that in u._s. Dollars i don't have the figure right in front of me but it this is a frigging dream daily s._p._f. Under your makeup it goes on honestly like one of those japanese ones that we and it massage envy right away. It is chemical filters. It's able benzon homa sallet. There's it's not mineral. That's probably why it feels so nice. They're they're very well. Tolerated chemical filters broad spectrum of course salami has japanese match t in an ad for added like antioxidant protection and so is really meant to give you that three sixty s._p._f. Protection and <hes> my only thing is. I wish it was like slightly higher s._p._f. Because it is only s._p._f. Thirty but truly it's a dream under makeup and yeah i've been wearing i i've been wearing it every single day pretty much since i got him with exception when i went to the beach for like full-on beach days but i just thought that it was a bit of a sleeper head because it launch launch kind of in the thick of the summer and not a lot of people knew about it so i wanted to bring it to you guys is attention that i've been using it every single day since i got it you know are just looked it up on alta. Comet is sixty five okay. Wes okay anybody wondering and at sephora you actually have to preorder it interesting <hes> so maybe it's still rolling out in the u._s. Actionable knew it is in in the u._k. Since the spring valley hair and it's just come to canada now and it it's actually gets better though goes on really well under makeup and using it every single day love it. That's all we need to know <hes> so let's get into some makeup treats it's <hes> i'm gonna start with one that has been in my purse all summer long so this is wander beauty lip retreat oil. It's twenty twenty two dollars u._s. and twenty six dollars in canada. I'm going to demo at for you began. This color is called skinny dip. It's a peachy beige aged tone so this is actually a tented lip oil. This is what it is. Yes it is <hes> it's a treatment oil so it's got apricot kernel oil and olive oil yeah all those are emoluments that have antioxidant benefits and even though it's called the treatment oil there is a slight gel texture to it. It's not like a straight oil l. and then it gives you just a lip gloss finish. There's nothing spectacular about this product. Where you're going to look at me like wow. It just happens to be the one that i've i've been using for. Whatever reason just reached for it every day in my person. If i switch purses i go and find it. I rifle amongst all the other glosses. Find it and take this one yeah. I think you should talk about how you apply to. It's a doe foot that yeah the tube and dipping your finger and that's true. Sometimes we forget this audio so yeah. It's in a a tube and you you just twist it like just exactly like jill side and then you use the dojo to apply it but i think the biggest pet peeve in summer when i have to dip my ed's the c._n._a. And i gotta get my gloss. It's then five kleenex to put it on her or did you ever do this. One where you just trace your forearm and you're just like boo yeah. I ended up having to wipe like that on like my jeans. It's not sexy at all yeah. No i appreciate that this one only comes in four shades. It's not on trying to be like this full. You know lipstick extension or anything like that. <hes> it comes in a clear one like i said this is a picchi beige. There's like a strawberry color and a berry and they're all quite share. I think that the berry one would be amazing on dark skin tones and the strawberry would be amazing on like medium and all of skin tones and and i think that's what i really like about. This is just a touch of color. It's not like look at me. I'm trying to have a look right now but it's also not nothing yeah and i think that's why it's been such a goto and i've actually been layering when i do want it to when i wanted to look a bit more dressed up i've been layering like this really shimmery pris- medic gloss on top up of it which i'm gonna talk about in the fall episode because it's a new fall launch that i am obsessed with <hes> so yeah. That's been kinda my look but does doesn't make your lips more nourished. Yeah i mean that's from those like from those emotions that i mentioned so. There is no drawing a fact. That's yeah obviously just just in terms of comfort. It's not sticky <hes> so all of that is there but it's just kind of yacht this like makeup light look. I've been going with all summer. I'll tell you about the ice staples that i've been relying on for me this whole summer you know me. I'm always playing up my eyes more than my lips because they're just so thin. It's like if i were like a really bright orange is just like <hes>. It's just it's not the same comfort level as brian. I look you know but you also have blue eyes and brown hair. Her and it's not often that you can like nail a contrast with those features. You have that so like if i if i had that i would be playing at my is all day so this one is this one is from one of our favorites mac cosmetics and this is one of their new pallets. It's called the mac art library nude model nude-model nude dude motto okay. It's fifty seven dollars canadian with one hundred eight dollar value. There's twelve is shadows in here and it's forty eight dollars u._s. So this is a permanent addition shen but i have so many shadows. It is like oh my god. It's embarrassing like i was looking at my shelf this morning where store all of my palettes and everything i'm like. I've gotta clean this out like this is insane he asked but so it's pretty telling that i reached for this all summer long entering it was because i was traveling a lot and it's got a hard case whereas the anesthesia asia palettes and stuff that i have i love them but they're they are that paper case and i feel like they are more apt to open or when they're going to like bust open or something so this. I really like how compact it is and twelve shadows that are in it. They're really neutral these colors but i feel like what i like about it. Too is that it can take you into to fall right. <hes> there's like some plums and it's it's neutral warm but leaning almost into like moulvi plum territory <hes> so my favorite shade was dropped aerob- it's like this rosy tone and then a kind of a curveball shade that i would never buy but it's in this palette and it's good. It's called utrera. Which is is this sort of like warm brown verging on yellow every time. I'm out the maryland and a show. This is the color that the makeup artist put on my is interesting and i think it is because has its yellow versus. My eyes are blue so i think it just like makes them. Quote unquote pop moriya but i'm always like in the panama was like then when i got it in this shot in this power lines may have kind of like a trench coat color likened stark trench co polar yeah i know and this one. That's a match shade so the other nice part about this palate is yes. You can play with textures. There's some satin some shimmer the matt ones i would say the two darker shades. I know one of them is called. Sugar plum can't remember what this shade is called. The two darker ones were definitely. There was more followed and the plum ones see. That's what i wear on my eyes for the browns could actually totally wear this and i know <hes> emily mccullough who's another editor friend of ours. She's also makeup artists. She was raving about this palette on instagram as we saw her doing some makeovers on people with these so so <hes> you know these these shades shrooms in here as well which is like a classic mac right. It's this light light beige shade which is good for a base yeah many of if these are brand new shades and how many are just. It's just like a new kind of that. I was trying to determine the exact number. I would say at least half are permanent shades <hes> <hes> i couldn't get the exact number but it is that thing where they curate them so you know exactly like for me. This is good if you're a professional makeup artist s you probably don't need mac to do this for you but these are there. Pro artistry recommended shades that go together. They are curated. Well and i just wanted to bring you know what sometimes i'm like. Palate fatigue. I have too many and then i discovered a new one like this. I'm like this is everything i need in the one so i have been hitting pan on these and reaching for it all summer i want to share that with you guys and yeah dalia part about it being developed by the mac pro artists otherwise it's just sort of marketing putting it together. That's great yeah and there is is <hes> they have these art libraries and a couple other shades like there's one that are all like rainbow shades and then there's another one that's like more tones at your loving right now that yeah reds and pinks. Thanks the silent shades rockley <hes> so this one is the more neutral safe one but there are ones that are curated by their artists. That are a little bit more like you want to have a a bit more fun with it well. I also need to shout out a product that is for body or we're gonna talk. Body now sweet so this is french. Girl lumiere rose doray shammar oil. This is obviously a cult brand. You see this so often on instagram graham on people's top shelf because of the packaging. It was definitely one of the first brands to have that font. I don't know what that font is doc louis but you'll see it on like by rado rado and what are some of the other brands that have that oh my god i can't even remember the way is kind of like yeah exactly. It's just like all black and white and success story like this. This brand started on ed. See the girls from seattle washington as you call girl. I now and that's all it took yeah. How much is that one so this one is fifty dollars in the u._s. In canada at sixty five dollars and this is a just like the name suggests shimmer body oil that i like to use on my legs and i think i've said this before that you know i'm i have quite pale skin so i like the fact that this is tinted and it's tinted and kind of like a rose gold shade so so i just feel like for me. It is less contrast and less sort of fake looking then pudding some kind of bronze ing oil on my legs. This is a little bit more tone on tone for me but at the same time i think that rose gold look so beautiful on such an array of skin tone like medium dark skin tones is just going to be flattering because it's got that warmth to it so is this. How do you apply this. Is it a sprayer. Is it's a spritz rather <hes>. I wouldn't call it really a spreads like it's a pump pump it in its end like a little square bottle and you just pump it out and i would do probably like four or five drops to do your lower legs and on the same amount to do your upper legs and yes just really moisturizing. It has a a bit of a rose son to it but honestly. I don't find it overwhelming. You know i don't love overwhelming fakey smells and these products are organic and all the sons are made without synthetic so there's rose and sandalwood and then it's also got shea butter and argon oil so that's what's giving you <hes> a really good amount of hydration must walla's like that little bit of luster little luster yeah so i love that product. I use that a lot but there is another body product that i haven't been able to live without this summer and it's a lot less sexy. It's called e. Sense outdoor body spray is sixteen dollars in canada. I don't have a u._s. Price because i don't believe it's available there. This is something that you guys are going to want to stock up on. When you come up to canada it's also available in asia in a lot of different places. They're they're sixty locations between asia and canada. E senses an all natural line out of vancouver berg. I haven't said that already. This product is primarily lavender and lemongrass essential oils in olive oil base and it's just an alternative turn it yvt to using off or avon skin so soft or whatever it is or to keep the mazey's away yeah and i have as you can see. I've used this almost straight to the bottom and i bought this at the beginning of the summer. I <hes> was gifted this product in the past and i re- bought it myself. I just i find for me personally and again. This is something definitely don't. I can't guarantee anything earning one but i personally find this is just as effective as off yeah the chemical versions for me. I also like using this on my kids because i do worry about those chemicals that are in the like the ones that have deet night putting on their little bodies especially when they're little little so i've just been like wearing this out completely and i do find it to be quite effective have now having said that i will bring off an offer kids with me in case. It's a really bad situation. I wouldn't solely rely on this. I usually bring both. Are you the type of person who gets eaten alive typically if you don't wear anything no i think i'm like just an average human being who gets bitten but i don't lake they don't they're not love with me but i. I'm like anybody else like some days. There might be two around me. Some if i'm sitting in the wrong spot next next to stillwater like there might be ten yeah okay yeah interesting. I just listened to this whole podcasters a book out right now called the mosquito okay and it's the human i'm in history of our deadliest predator really and i'm like really obsessed with learning more about mosquitos and who they're attracted to and all that it just came out like august six weren't they around in dinosaur disorder time they were there like preserved amber from like tony even get me started on this so what they know these mazi yeah and they say that if if you have type o blood. I think that it's more you're more apt to get bit but i'm type oh so. I don't think that that's actually the case but <hes> you know lake. Okay anyways. It's it's just so fascinating like if there's one thing i could eradicate from the planet. It would be mosquitoes while my daughter is is the type who when she gets a mosquito by it's swells up its into like you would think she has the mumps or something so yeah with her like all again. I just use us when when they're not really bad and i also will all spray it right onto my hands and then pat her face. I want that shit right on her face. I might actually switch should up by body part and then like ankles all use the heavy duty stuff rate. This'll us all under close so anyway. What's it called again. It's the e sense outdoor birdie spray. Oh yeah lavender. Maybe they don't like lemon grass. Maybe that's the secret ingredient i think i think it's the lavender as well well. I'll have to go back to the book also. Did you know that only female mosquitoes bite no i didn't. It's pretty crazy and like yeah you have to. I've listened to pot so many podcasts with this author now. I'm just obsessed anyways okay. I was a little summer summer noting until was light remaining. Does it was on the beach all right guys well. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for tuning in visit breaking beauty podcast. Hi cast dot com for details on all the damn good products we talked about in today's episode and be sure to sign up for our newsletter that way you'll get every episode delivered right not your inbox you won't miss a single thing or subscribe to us on apple podcasts spotify stitcher google play wherever you get your podcast fix and please show awesome love by rating us or review in see you next time uh-huh.

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Heather and Lindsay catch up post Aspen...what went on at the Create & Cultivate Panel? Also, was the Disneyland trip a disaster or complete success???

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Heather and Lindsay catch up post Aspen...what went on at the Create & Cultivate Panel? Also, was the Disneyland trip a disaster or complete success???

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You podcasts sat. This is heather dubrow world and now you can live in it two times a week right here on podcast one. Welcome back everybody. I got Lindsay. Here hi how are you great? How much you I? I saw you for like two seconds and Aspen. That's IT and haven't seen you since we have so much again. I had no idea that the Fisher's were going yes. The plan was to hang out with you the first half of the trip and then the second half of the trip. That's why we kind of put it in the Middle Yeah. This didn't happen. No because we went home early but I got to see you for like three minutes. Yes and what was so funny and by the way? There's there's a lot to talk about it because I you know. I was at Creighton. Cultivate this weekend. I want to talk about that. I want to talk about cocoa sleeping. Yes lot lot to go over. But what was so funny was so. Lindsey texts me and she goes. Oh she would you. Were texting me like advice. Like do I go here. What do I order by the way? Did you get the bottle of wine and tells you to get? Oh yeah it was so good. She was sitting at the Cape and she's like what do I order. I'm like get this. Get this get this one. This one and I'm like make sure it's this one because I said the Chateau nifty prophet was a French White Burgundy but they had to on the menu and one was like four hundred dollars and one was like one hundred included the price. I did because I was like wait. Don't get the four hundred dollar one. Get the one. Is that place good so good but we were in and out so I was like I need all. I didn't have time to go through it and trial the thing so your advice was good but what cracked me up out of everything was. I wanted you to go to Ajax. Because it's like aspirin for me. It's the best. Sit outside and the Clicquot you know. Umbrellas awnings the DJ's playing and it's like a cool fund adult. He's like Oh my God. Ajax the best. I'm like yes. I was so excited. I'm thinking the kids were ski school. Krieger having a moment amazing. And I see the picture with Parker on your lap and the hot chocolate and thing like oh I did experience it the right way now. We're sure Sunday drop on my lap. But I made it. There was a crowded when you were there. It was crowded but we just happen to get in at the right right right away and the table of crowded. I tip the girl at the front and she gave us an awesome table. Perga- so little we can't leave like for long enough while he's in ski school but next year next year you will be. Did you love Aspen loved it? You'd go back totally would go back. I'm so sad you won't know Terry's done he won't go back. I think he'd go back in the summer right. But we've been there a couple of times so we've done this already and we did it when the kids were super little like what you just did and then we've done it now. I think that if they were all like show into skiing I would take the myself right and just go like have a girl's trip experienced but they're not you know what's your what you've done it you've done. It was our first time. Both Creggan is so it was also exciting and one town and all the food. Oh my gosh. All the food food is so good there. My only bummer is that I didn't get to shop but I think Terry would go back in the summer because he thinks summer. There is magical. What is there to doing this summer? By the way. There's a lot for the kids to do. I mean they can. There's like the river and they go. You know they do water things hiking and there's lots for them to do their own. I don't ski so I guess just really mad at us. It's not any different. I told you when I brought Terry for his fortieth birthday and we hiked up Aspen Mountain right. Went to the top where. The Gondola is had hotdogs and wine and then took Gondola. Damn Fun the best egg so much fun but anyway but I'm glad you had a great time. I wish we were there longer together. At least you've got to see you. It would have been tragically and get to see at least double but he looks so cute though to your outfit's so cute okay. Before I forget I have a new. Hip is hottest newest. Have you heard of zits sticker? No Oh my gosh so all right so. I'm not creating cultivate which I will tell you about. Yes unbelievable and any female listener out there if you have not been to a crate and cultivate seminar. You have to go Lindsey. You would love this really. It is so incredible. I'll get back to that. But in the Goodie bag they gave me for being a panelist. There is this thing called ze it sticker and it was this box and I was looking through it looking through it and and Victoria Victoria. Wanted to go because she just assume they're talking about her book and all this so she went in the morning and then I went in the afternoon. Like kind of right before my panel. And so we're going. We're in the car on the way home and going through the bag and she's like oh give that to Max. Whatever I'm thinking I do so we get home and Max looks at this thing. And she's like. Oh my gosh. I've been wanting to try this so she tried it. It's these little clear patches. And you put them on your zits okay. And you sleep at him. They say you put make-up over them. I'm not one hundred percent sure about that. I haven't tried that yet but I have to say Max loved them. Wow yes good. And it's not like benzyl project. It's like there's tea tree oil and you swab it with this alcohol and mix to clean your skin and then you put it on top of that but it literally clears up your zips. It seems like that's long overdue. You know what I mean like. We're still putting like a white things on vets like write a great idea and it's so unattractive You know did you ever use the Mario Badescu pink stuff? Yes so okay. So I grew up going to Mary. Badescu New York so we always had that drying lotion and now other companies make it but basically it's that thing where it looks like half liquid on the top and then sludgy pink stuff on the bottom and you don't shake it and you take a Q. Tip and you stick it into the sludge and then you put on your face but then you will go give pink measles yes right. Yeah it's not cute to go to bed with your husband like that. No no not ideal. It's not ideal so this is a much better plan and it worked for her loved it I why do we still get pimples? It's hormones it's totally hormones. I get them on my chin. Yeah like stress. Yeah but she wouldn't let me have any so now. I have my own. But I'm telling you MAC says they are genius and so it's called and I love the name zits sticker sticker but say I think it's a great thing to get into a goody bag. Yeah so all those companies out there that you're thinking like it's a big investment because you have to supply it you know hundred two hundred thousand whatever supply. I think if you have a great product. It's totally worth it. Don't you do that with a million dollar? Yeah gets new eyes on things. I mean. It's awesome if it's panelists because it's people like you have influence in talking to people and you know it's the best but even just getting in the hands of you know real life users is great too 'cause people who could have never been to it for whatever reason and then get to try it. Yeah and I think that there was goodie bags as people were walking anyone that paid to get in there and it was. It was not inexpensive. Okay I think it's like three fifty for a regular ticket or hundred videos. Yeah maybe five hundred change for a VIP ticket. There's different levels but it's a whole day and there's seminars and You could have like your hair done over here and your makeup done rear their snacks over here Kenilworth sponsored. The whole bar thing soup and you could just spend twelve hours their meet-and-greet so good for. I mean for anyone but for young people to like I wish when I was younger and trying to like a young entrepreneur and just figure out your way I would have gone to more stuff like that. I feel like they have that I I wondered. Maybe not maybe not. I think it was probably only like motivational ish. You know Tony Robbins type seminars. Because they weren't you know now definitely is popular as they are now but this is all female so cool stuff out earlier and I think what was interesting about it for me is that it was all different. Age Women Really. Yeah I mean panelists and audience members it was. It was just such an interesting collection. Would you ever bring Max next year? Oh I hadn't thought about it. Yeah maybe she might be a little young Sixteen seventeen maybe a little young. I feel like it's more of maybe eighteen would be the young right but I don't know maybe not. I didn't see anyone that agent to me. It felt like twenty to fifty right kind of thing right. I thought it was amazing. I was on a panel with Tim. Owlry there's just So T- Mary. She's an actress. She and her sister used up that show sister sister But she also she's an author. She's you know she's got kids. She's married she's got this new brand she's doing of supplements. She's like an entrepreneur and she's been around the block and she. It's funny because when I saw her she looked at me and we were like. Oh that high. I don't remember when we met you know in the nineties. I'm sure and now you know. We're hugging and having a moment but it was interesting because she and I both went through these scripted thing to you know into this new frontier on Youtube and and figuring it out figuring it out so it was interesting to get her take on things. She was panel Chris L. Limb. She's an entrepreneur influence. She her family. is big on Youtube. And she's got this new thing that she's doing daycare. It's really interesting she she. She's very smart. She was saying like you know. There's so many places to bring your dog You know what I mean. You can break doggy daycare. People come to your house you can go there. There's so many options for animals and there's no options for children that are good interesting and so she's created this daycare in La. I think that they're franchising them. Wow Yeah it's pretty cool. And she says she was on my panel Gera- foster fell also a content creator very motivational and Desi Perkins. Oh Yeah deshea totally okay. So if no one knows who does he is. You're probably under a rock desert. By the way I could have been under a rock. 'cause I knew who she was named her face. I didn't put the whole thing together but in like I think two thousand twelve. She for Halloween. Just did her face as this gorgeous melting skeleton so half of her face was beautiful and it was like this crazy creepy skeleton thing so many people have done it since but she was the first and it went viral Mezzo. She got back and that's how she got back. You'll like with million dollar. We did a collaboration with her. One year awesome. Yeah she is so amazing and her husband. Oh my Gosh hilarious. So I solicited retake a picture together. My daughter loves you. And she's like of course and so we go to take a picture and her husband and you're GonNa you're gonNA love this in. Two seconds is standing there with alight. No a little mobile light of an IPHONE and alight. Yeah so she's got the iphone and he's holding the light above it obsessed with this amazing that's brilliant and it's not big so I have a feeling I know what Craig is getting auster basket. It was amazing and our moderator was Zuri Hall. She's an entertainment reporter very gorgeous girl and smart and cool so anyway so I got to this thing. It was pouring rain by the way on Saturday. Which is so not la. And it was hailing at one point. I mean the weather was just insane so I had to make like a last minute shoe adjustment. But I got there and I was hanging out with the gals from avalon. Apparel Jill and Darcy. Who are I do? My Heather's closet apparel with right there so cool and it was so nice of them to come and do are coming to support you Love it so they were there and then Victoria was there and we all hung out a bit and it was. It was like such a great day and I met and then I did a meet and greet met so many incredible women and then did the panel the panel so interesting to me. The questions were interesting. The answers were interesting. I loved connecting with all the women. There I just highly recommend I think what Jacqueline Johnson has built is incredible so jacqueline and I met it's by southwest. Last year came friends and then came on my podcast also and she came on work by the way work. Women offering real knowledge that we did a youtube. Channel is GONNA be a bonus episode of Heather Dubrow. Oh Cool I love all that stuff. The content is so good and I just felt like it didn't get its do and you know we've talked before. I had to like really drop that because I too many other things going on. I love the content so much that I think everyone would love to listen to it. Yeah I'm really good pearls in there yes so anyway. So we're GONNA get an extra podcast episode. This week. It started cool. We've eighteen episodes so I can't wait to hear what people think about that but yeah I loved it and I'll tell you I ask Victoria when we left but was your takeaway from all that and she said you know for me. She's had a lot of it. I already know I've heard that. Pearl or Pearl or or these kinds of female. She goes but you know when you hear someone say it in a different way with different examples it inspires you so when they sent me the talking points the questions in advance and a lot of times. I don't like that because I like to be you know preplanned things whatever I had looked at okay. I'll say this. I'll say that don't talk about this that but one thing I noticed and I thought this was such a great piece of advice. So they were saying advice. Like don't be afraid to speak up or make sure you don't hog the conversation or tips for people that maybe haven't been on a panel before kind of thing so it's a standard thing. They sent everyone but what they said was they said. In six months to a year. People won't remember the specific pieces of advice but they will remember your stories which I thought was so cool because you know my feeling was okay. I need to make sure they understand a deep. That's giving them the advice but without the story to Hook it onto. Maybe they wouldn't forget like for example they were. We were talking about being authentic and knowing your brand and I was saying like on a Reality Show. You may want to be like the elegant classy person and that's your brand but if you're constantly vomiting in the bushes and cursing everyone that's out your brand. You can't be the vomit or right but people were laughing. It's funny and we call back later but I thought they'll remember that right because of the girl and the Bush and other people told like really great stories like that it was just so I don't know I learned so much so Victoria said she was so reinspired. I just the energy of everyone in being there. I thought it was interesting to hear about what it takes to be a good boss. Everyone's very into that like talking about. Who makes a good boss and what you give your employers but what I also thought was interesting was how to be a good employee because I think that what I loved about this and what a lot of people were saying there with that was that they find that many women young women can be very entitled and just feel like it's their do and they don't WanNa put in the work or if the people that show up make themselves indispensable. Those are the people that are succeeding for sure. You have to be the smartest you don't even have to have the best ideas you just have to be. Yes yeah and you have to show up there and do the work and figure it out good attitude heart and a good attitude and you will be so much more valuable than someone with a degree or you know more skill set all day. It's the hustle man. It's hard work. Hard work yeah so even like like shop. Hq where. I do my fashion line. I remember when I first started there and some of the players have sort of changed but when I first started there there these two women and one of them is not there anymore and the other one and she like when we talked everything was kind of negative and there it was just very I'm not sure that's going to work. There was never anything positive or ideas for how to make things work and this other Gal who is still there. She always had a plan. She would take the. I'll tell your name. Kristen France. She's amazing. Brilliant this woman I work with. And as it turns out we went to school together. Syracuse no way and we have mutual friends. That's the same year with the same age. So we're chosen Minnesota like. How do we hook up? Yeah she's so talented but what she does. She will take the runway shows and she will interpret them and and say okay well for our customer. So here's the runway. And here's what. Pantoja says are the best colors we're gonNA take those and we're GONNA we're going to translate that into what our customer will buy or the Silhouette they're showing you know puffy sleeves. I'm just making this up huge puppies on the runway. They're very exaggerated okay. Well our girl isn't going to wear that too little to guard. But what does that translate to for our customer and really working on the silhouettes and the colors and the fabrics and so she's so good at translating it. She becomes indispensable. You can't do it without her. She's not replaceable. Someone who sits there and just says yes or just says no or has no input your dispensable you've got to make yourself indispensable so it's either you've got the ideas you put in the time you're the most loyal you're a can do person all the things I mean. Isn't that what you look for? When you hire people for your company. Yeah exactly like you say someone who's willing to do whatever it takes a yes attitude positive attitude and they keep learning and keep growing with position like you say to where they're at that point. They're not even a replaceable. Because no one else could do exactly what you're what you're doing right exactly like what you described she does. That is so cool. I know it's very very cool. So the conference was amazing. Had the best star. That's so great and like Victoria. Said sometimes just hearing it even if you've heard all of these things because Victoria's you know very well rounded and positive and all this and she reads it she was has yes but just when you hear altogether too you know it's like someone say but also all wrapped together like all here an interesting tedtalk or something like that or a seminar and I'm like yes but it's weird. I knew all. That wise is so inspiring. Just all wrapped up Nice. Yeah it's wrapped up nice and sometimes it's just good to hear it again. Yeah take a pause and the craziness of life and focus on it. That's so great right so we'll do it next year. Oh for sure. As a matter of fact I was talking to Jacqueline while I was there and they a smaller one in New York. They've a big one. They do in Dallas in August. And we're going to live podcast from there so fun right superfund. It's all probably do the live podcast. And sit on a panel. Love it in August in Dallas. So I'm treated and go to Creighton. Cultivate DOT COM and. Check IT OUT BY THE WAY. Their brand is huge. Now they have. I think organizers and things at target and all kinds of Quebec's but if you haven't checked it out it's really amazing. Jacqueline is a powerhouse. Yeah I mean. She's so inspiring and amazing but these people that she puts together is. It's just incredible. Super Cool really really graph so that was like the the interesting work part of my weekend of it. Well not so much but what was funny was a couple of the women I met. Were like House Coco. Is she sleeping in her own bed? No not so much. But we're doing this thing. We're Danielle so I told you. Danielle's moving to Miami. Yes very sad. But I'm very happy for her and she's GonNa I. I can't wait to see what she does. I really think she's going to do. I want her to start logging. Yeah she's so good at it when she puts up her videos and stuff on her instagram. They're amazing yeah and I and you know because her boyfriend is. I don't know exactly what his job titles but he does all these parties and everything. He does events because he's like an event planner. Maybe that's the best way to call it. But she's so good at taking the behind the scenes and little details. I start tagging people. They'll pay you do it. Yeah Anyway. She's great you're listening to heather do bros. World. I am obsessed with my Charlotte Tilbury Lipstick. Why and who is Charlotte Tilbury? 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This is heather do pros world. Here's other before she goes. She said to me. I think I can help with the cocoa thing. I'm like how and she got by way. I should be quiet cocos in the other room because I don't have school today. Don't let it on the plan. I know you'll ever ear to the door and be like not happening. So she's sleeping. You know because one of us always has to sleep with her so now we gotta blow at Mattress and she's been sleeping next to the bed and other blow at mattress slowly moving in yellows every night every night toward the door. Even if she's not working she just comes at night sleep. I know she the best so yes. So let's see if it works. And so she's going to slowly move herself out the door with the Mavericks. I think tomorrow night. The mattress is going to be out the door a little bit further a little bit further a little bit further a little bit for like this so far so good so far so good. The good thing is she's going to sleep a lot easier and she's sleeping through the night. Yes which is huge. I don't know I know a lot of people out. There are probably going not going to work not going to work city crazy for kids do for our kids and the craziest things we have to figure out. Oh my God keep us posted. That's going to be a good one. It could help people. Then what else do we do? We went to Disneyland on looked so cool. Was it raining then right so I had looked at the weather? It was just to rain on Saturday and not on Friday so I thought we were pretty safe but it started to rain like twenty minutes before we laughed and I was. I was so happy done anyway. I was totally done. I mean we got there at one and see if they were really having a great time I was going to stay and see the fireworks at nine thirty and then I thought that would be out but it got kinda foggy outside and so at I'm GonNa say like eight o'clock. Maybe some forty five or started drizzling and there was eight o'clock and I looked at them like what are you guys think and I wasn't even sure they were going to do the fireworks when it's really windy and foggy like ask them. I didn't want to stay there for another hour and do that so I let them go on to my rights and then we exited stage left awesome. Yes did it feel high impact or did it feel fun and easy? I got to hang out with cocoa all day because cap brought a friend so the two of them and they were. Oh my God cat and her friend very thirteen like a guide with US Corey. So people were asked about the guide. So I want to tell you about the guide. You've done the guide. The guide is outrageously expensive. It's worth for me. It's worth every penny and I absolutely love it and you're much more Disney user friendly than I am. I'm not I want to go what to do. The rides do the things we want. Eat here have a cocktail and balanced I'm done and even if that's nine hours I just like to go and do not the lines and the whole thing so you get a greeter and you pay per hour and it's a seven hour minimum so it depends on the time of year and the day of the week how much it is so it could be anywhere from three hundred dollars an hour to seven hundred dollars an hour. I've never heard it more than seven hundred. I don't think but you can have up to ten people. And that's not including the tickets. Now he paid for the tickets. In addition you pay the tickets in addition but live with this way. If it's it's still expensive but if it was like three hundred and our and everyone put in money yeah all tended to people kind of thing exactly it would be more cost if it was like someone's birthday or a special occasion or something like that Anyway so we had our greeter. We had corey and we've had him many times. I Love Corey. He's the Nicest Guy. He's so sweet. He'd loves the kids. He knows. Every Hidden Mickey in the park he just knows the history of everything and he's just so cat and her friend. We're like torturing this poor boy having him do tick tock and singing and going back and I'm like oh my gosh. He's poor guy if you need me to have them dial it down. I promise they will. They're fine they're great but was great for me is it was me and cocoa. Yeah so we went on every ride together. We walk through the park. She held my hand but she doesn't do very often anymore and I loved it. Yeah I loved every second of it so good and I was worried at first because the night before so she had gone to a birthday party for the sport that she's friends with and he wasn't having a big party. It was just the family party and he invited cocoa and boy another boy and that was it was the three of them. Come over swim. Dinner Hang out with our family kind of old school little party but they had invited her to sleep over and she was like get now first of all. It's cocoa saga sleepover and second of all. It's like two boys. Is that weird? And I was fine with it if she was but she was like. I don't WanNa do this okay. That's fine so she gets there and she's having such a great time she called me. She's like can I stay over and I'm like yeah. I talked to the MOM. And whatever they'd bunkbeds. She slept on the top bomb getting so she was tired. The next day tired still had the the blister on her heel. I don't know I was like walking around. Disney's you've just got a blister. I'm not sure this going to go. But she rallied and she had so she hasn't been in like three years. I don't think two and a half years he no. We don't go. That often. Feel like you go every once a year. I guess you'd kind of go around holiday times for a while there. We were going to go for Thanksgiving and it was pouring rain. Didn't go and then. The last time we went was when we had cousins in town for Thanksgiving so it was like he was like three years. Ago Nikki Amax sometimes go with their friends. Not with like the greeter they don't have passes or anything no we just don't go enough. Yes it warrant the passes but every once in a while Nikki will go with his friends Zach because it was a big Disney family that go into that club and they do the whole thing and yeah but I worked at Disneyland for so long that not so long but like a year and a half or whatever feel like I've been to Disneyland like a gazillion right but she had a great time and I just love being with her and then you cuddle with me in the car on the way home which is really sweet and then they all had a meltdown in the car. Oh Gosh huge let the happiest place on earth and it was a crash landing crash landing. I Net Tyrian. Havi ears and it had pete drive. Go where Victoria or Daniel was waiting for love. You Fast Day. He did ask them like. Do you WANNA go with us to have you know like es. I net Terry at Hobby and we had dinner. So that was great super. Know it's a good end to the break. It was except the break didn't end so so I was saying they give the kids off the ski week right and so they have off the whole week and then my kids have off Monday to. I've never even heard of that. Why I don't know it's like some kind of teacher in service or something I've no idea. It seems like I'd rather space it and have a t have a Fr- free Friday with them another week. I I know it's a lot. Yeah but anyway so it was fine and then I did the crate and cultivate thing on Saturday and we took cocoa and cat dinner at Nobu Saturday night and then last night we took out Nikki and his friend Titus. It's so fun to split them up. Isn't it because yes get a different them different? You probably feel like they get a different you. Well it's hard when you're sitting at a table with four people especially your four kids you want to give everyone equal time to talk with. The truth is is that I feel like I have so little time with the teenagers that when they actually WanNa talk to me. I want to hear what they're saying. Then you're kind of ignoring the other two which you feel bad about so. Sometimes it's great. Sometimes it's not but when you get the teenagers alone it's awesome right and they're old enough to wear it they're much like actual adult conversations like you would with a friend. Yes crazy so it was fun. Yeah it was really fun and then they always kind of leave early. Like Terry have a moment right. We don't always do that at nobody was just us? So he's rights. I see it was what I meant with the teens. Driving guests with the teens driving like because they had school today so it was a school night. So Nicky and titus they had dinner with us hung out and then they left right but they stayed a long time. That's awesome yeah. They were good. He's fun I love doing that stuff with them. I am ready for cat cocoa to go back to school after a week and did a lot of things of trip and that interest between it's time to like get back in the flow and like get out the routine like last August back to work through. Would you do all weekend? So we didn't get back until Thursday late Thursday and that it's funny because Friday. I was like I wonder if she do Disney that I saw you there. I'm like oh I should paint her that I was thinking about Disney and then we took him to Harlem Globetrotter globetrotters on Saturday. Night at center. Yeah we've done them And then you know I always wanted to be very positive. The kids loved it. Is the positive kids loved it? They were it's Parker was exhausted. He slept through the whole first half because just from the trip and everything else But it wasn't what I thought it was. GonNa be why I because I think it's like ninety ninety second year doing this. I feel like maybe it's I don't know maybe it's just interesting to someone up to age ten poker. GonNa were looking at each other and we were exhausted. East on the trip got home late Thursday. We both work like crazy trying to get a whole weeks or dot on Friday and I was working with the kids and then to go Saturday. oh on Saturday. We went and saw the sonic movie with Fisher's again. So it was like Bam Bam Bam It just lost its luster. It was cheesy calling it on the globe. That's IT I said. Kids enjoy it because that is your what time there like why this is so good. I'm like Oh you know once in a lifetime you go were a couple of things where they would like jump on the basket and it was cool and interesting and you're like wow. They're standing on top of the hoop but there were four of those moments in three hours. That's a law. But you know they're selling tickets. They've turned into like a long show. It was it was painful and the Honda Center. Which I don't know maybe I don't like this. It was like half full. Maybe the words gotten out. Maybe other people got the memo that I didn't draw. These must be pretty old. I'm assuming they've turned over. Cast over the catheters have midget. I think they've tried to pull out all the tricks. There's a midget a little person in the in the cast. So they're doing funny things with him. The kids loved. I would never go again. So what have you been to the circus lately? Don't they have no animals in the circus anymore? I know I feel like all these things are changing. I don't know I feel like they don't have animals in the circus anymore wonder. So what do they do at the circus? I think the attendance is probably down half full. I think that maybe people have moved to the cirque shows you how there's the local travelling cirque shows like. Cirque du Soleil kind of things. Well I mean I think you have to because if you're not gonNa have animal and I find with no having no animals I agree. You know it's not nice to the dogs into the elephants and all that I agree. Get them out of the show. But then you have to do something. Yeah right I don't know what would make it interesting enough. If there's not any animals actually do Cirque du Soleil type stuff the UNICYCLES and the circus master. I suppose but I mean come on you like the travelling Circus Soleil shows. Do you still do those or have you feel like you've checked the box? 'cause you've done them all. I think we've only done a travelling cirque show once but in Las Vegas. We've seen the CIRQUE shows right. Yeah I like one of the ones here. I feel like it's something to do with something entertaining. It's good for the whole which is not always easy to find. It's true and especially when kids are little and we you and I was talking about but it's hard to find like new things to take them to their certain things. I used to do all the time like we used to go to the ice show. Yes like Disney on ice. We used to go there every time every year. Every timing but then it got to the point where like they were too old and then cocoa didn't. WanNa go anywhere so we liked lost that one and then we had two blue man group. Yes I think. I've done it Jack. I think it's interesting but I thought the Disney on ice. This year was better than it had ever been. Yeah you said that. So good like entertaining for an adult. It's interesting how these things if they've been around for a while they either probably depending on whose leading them they either singer. Sore. Yes active locks on the Bluebell. So Nikki was saying last time we were at dinner. We've been talking about vacations with the kids. Yeah I can't remember. I told us but everyone's been telling me that the vacations get better as the kids get older. Who's been telling you people on Instagram? And so we were talking about last night and I said yeah well We'RE GONNA go to Costa this year and and Nikki Goes. Wha what he was. I thought that was our last trip. Europe I've had with that was the big Hurrah we're done. I go forever. And he is like yeah. We're not ICU. Just had a curiosity. Like what do you think's GonNa Happen here? You like. You're going to go to college and we'll talk once a year. What do you think is going on here? And he was like. I don't know I just so funny. He thought that was the that was the final grand. Finale the fireworks. I'm like your we go in. They're still living here for ears. What do you think happens in college but you know what Nikki so like living in the moment minute? Yeah he probably doesn't even think down the road or what's going by the way you'll probably still want mom and dad's vacations. I would think so from what I hear. Mom and dad's vacations get better as you have less money. That's right absolutely. No one writes you a check. Hope he's on one college trip. It'd be like okay sharing six guys to a room. He like it. I know it dude Max would probably be like okay. I'm coming back to the WIKI. Oh for sure. Oh one hundred percent so then the kids are still doing the brain training thing. Oh Yeah How's it going? I think it's going well not resisting not resisting at all. It's more is routine now. Like they get it. They have to more. They've done three two more to do and have you started little ones. No they'll go after if it won't be until next August okay right because she says you either. Do this waller in school right before. School Starts Audit. You don't want to do it like mid semester second semester or summer. Yeah smart so yeah. I don't know I have no idea well. Listen it can't be bad certainly can't hurt. Yes that's for sure and then I had actually I had a really nice time with katharina on Sunday so remember the whole debacle with the Tick Tock. She cut me out of the whole thing so but I don't think you've told that on here. Did I okay. So there was a whole thing where she had done this tick Tock and she cut me out of the video and it was just her and Terry and she got like one point five million views. It totally weren't and I was so upset at first and then I watch it and it's really good. I really liked it and it was like I was just so proud of her. My Gosh you did such a great job. I love and I wasn't upset anymore. I was still upset. She cut me out but I loved what she did. And so we were together on Sunday and and We had some errands to Ron. And we're just spending time together. It was just really nice to have alone time with her like that because usually when I have. I have cocoa right. So we're spending time together and you know she loves bacon so I took it away and we were buying like just little things she needed. It was just so funny. She saw like oven mitts light blue oven mitts. And you would've thought she saw like Ferrari. Oh my Gosh Mum. Unlike Yasha look at the House. Like if it just takes that honey. I'm in get oven mitts. So she got her oven mitts and her cake leveler and her lips and her that and we need new still pat so we laid in supply of some baking things and went home and baked the two of you. Yeah Sushi made videos. I have not posted though I don't care. I was just so happy that she wanted to do with me. And you know my big thing with her is that I try not to put pressure on it because sometimes you know especially when you have four kids and some relationships are easier than others. They come easier and you know she's thirteen so it's not always smooth and so I try not to be like this is great. We're going to have so much. WanNa try just to like make it mellow. Yeah let's do. This helped her clean up. I didn't rag on her for the way she was cleaning up after czar but it was really good. That's was a really nice afternoon. They're like I just enjoyed being with her. Is it difficult raising preteens and teenagers to make sure they're doing things they want to do? And not do it for the posting like she loves baking naturally but is there ever a concern like okay? Is Her motivation to have more really having a viral. Take Decker. I just can't even imagine being thirteen years old and having a dog it's over a million and then not let that be. You know like you want more. You know it's just you know. She actually took one down that she felt like people didn't understand. Oh yes she doesn't operate like that and I have to say with all of them whether it's snapchat or instagram or tick tock whatever they're doing you can't. They're not built that way. I mean I know. My kids aren't at good. I just feel like I kids. Just aren't you ever weigh in? Tell me what your kids do but they have to WANNA post something. They have to have a desire to post it or they're not interested. I've never seen any of my kids or any of their friends. Say Oh you know. We need to post this right or literally. The only time I've ever seen it don't lose your thought but the only time I've ever seen it is like the picture so they're going to homecoming and they share the picture that but other than that no right. I just feel like there's this whole culture people who go on a hike on a Saturday for the instagram picture. I think so. I think that I mean I'm a big Fan of like I love pictures. I love taking pictures but I will never. I don't know I will never do anything I don't. I think a lot of people do for sure they do things for the like. They say I'm going to go on a hike so I can post it. Yes that is ridiculous today. Think that it's a big thing unless that's your job like unless you're an influence or who everyone knows Like is into fitness. Or whatever right right and that's your job in that's like your interest right like I have this friend. Kelsey Taylor do you know she is you do yes? You told me about her. Okay so Kelsey. You'd go follow her body. Oh God I remember you telling me a story but I don't remember what it was her but she is a blogger health and wellness Her boyfriend is Dane. Cook the comedian. Oh Yeah and she's actually she's going to be on the show and a couple of weeks she's awesome and I can't wait for everyone to get to actually a really big following okay and I love watching her stories because even though like she shredded. She's young she's gorgeous. She's like she's so accessible and nice but here's someone like she teaches pilates and so she probably has to post right. She has to post about workouts. And that kind of thing so I think. In that vein. I understand that because that's part of her brand right and so she has to post the workouts and has to post those things and maybe she would say to herself this up. Maybe someone like that would say oh. Gosh already did the workout and I didn't film it so let me film some other portion because I need to post it at that. I guess still feels organic ish. Yeah that makes sense to me but for someone that just wants to like make content for content sake that don't get yeah and determine what you're going to do in a weekend for the content but that's good that's not a that's not. I I feel like I feel like in the big picture. A lot of people operate that way. Why think maybe those people are trying to create a brand bashar creating cultivate thing that? That's what's so interesting because everyone's like trying to find their brand in their way it's really just all about authenticity. I think that's my point. I think that that's my point is make sure that it's authentic and what you really are doing and want to be doing right. But just like the girl vomiting and the Bushes. You have to know who you are. And here's the other thing if you're the girl and I told the story but here if you're the girl vomiting in the bushes you don't have to stay that person right like that could be your brand right now. But that doesn't mean that's how who you have to be forever in evolve lecture like look at the Kashmir outside grill like someone like her or like the girls from Jersey Shore. They went from being. You know partier. 's wearing these very like revealing outfit and now they're elegant and wives and mothers businesswomen and have this they have evolved. They took their brand and changed it. So if you first of all you have to know who you are you have to know what your brand is. And then if you don't like that brand you have to figure out how to either book how to become that person. Yeah Yeah Change yourself to pull you want to be and then put that out there. Yeah you never stuck. You're never stuck. Yeah this is. Heather dubrow world. I have such trouble sleeping just do I can't sleep so that conditions have to be absolutely perfect and that is why I'm so excited. I found out about edited. So have you heard of attitude? Have you heard of clean bamboo? Oh my gosh clean bamboo. 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Did you hear any of that on the panel? Just I just think that people are so worried about judgment that they don't do things and they don't put out things and they don't post things that are authentic to them because they're worried about judgment by everybody or one person or strangers or family whatever it is absolutely that was a recurring theme all about authenticity and judgment because people are scared to posting what what are People GonNa Think Are they going to like it? Are They not gonNA? But here's the thing if it who you are it doesn't matter some people are GonNa like it. Some people aren't and maybe they'll like it eventually. Or maybe they won't and that's okay too but you'll find your people by being authentic one. Gal. Ask a really great questions. She was saying you know. I'm an introvert. And how do I compete with all these people who are like aggressive and putting it out there and and are extroverts? What would you say you're only competing with yourself? Like I think that I just don't think of it as a competition game. I think that everyone can be different but I think she meant like how. Do you set yourself apart. If you can't be loud basically if you can't be loud how do you sell it yourself apart? I think you can still be interesting without being loud. I think it's I mean if you really trying to grow a brand something that I'm terrible at but I think it's volume of content. Just putting putting things out there and putting these out there consistently. I don't think you have to be the loudest I agree. I was saying that Terry I what do you think I what I think. Terry is an introvert. You know that he's so not a people person and no one knows that. But what was interesting about watching Terry because I mean I remember you know twenty something years ago. When he had written the book the Acne Cure and we went. I I was on. I was an actress that was on the TV show and and he was doctor and I think he had done heavy done the swan yet. I can't even remember probably not. I don't think you've done this one yet and so we went on. Cbs This morning. The today show he was doing like a little book tour and he if you could see his face. I have to find this clip. He looks miserable. Miserable every second of polar opposite to WHO? He is now but what happened with him. Was he so comfortable being a doctor? And he's a brilliant doctor and that confidence of being a brilliant doctor is what allowed the rest of his personality to open up and shine. Yeah and that was his way in what I said to this. Gal was you just have to find your way and you don't like you're saying you don't have to be loud and you don't have to be aggressive but you have to find your voice. Whatever that voices and whatever makes you confident you gotta find that. Because that's what's going to set you apart. Like Terry of Terry had been on a show years ago. That wasn't about me. I don't know why he would have been on a show. That's on about surgery but I'm just sat on the outside of his wheelhouse. He never would have. He probably never would have blossomed as a television personality because that was in him. Yeah it's the doing what he loved. That made him good at this that he would have not naturally not been being an introvert exactly so that was his way and was being a doctor even on. House quite story. And you're right you tell the story and then it resonates more and you remember. Yeah me too like when other girls were talking. I was like Oh. That's a good point but like afterwards I didn't remember all the points but I remembered the stories around the points that reminded me what the point was. Yes right yeah makes it more real life. You know rather raw self-help sounding the exit very practical and you can apply better to your own story. Yeah I agree So now I have to figure out this month is like saying. I have no idea how I'm going to get the as a month. I'm very excited for the launch of Heather's closet. Though he too. I can't believe he'd moto slight pink. I know I'm going to get one. It's so delicious you WanNa know what's so funny. Here's one of the best compliment so I was going to cultivate and was wearing an outfit. A few pieces from the line was wearing a skirt and a dispute Black Vegan Leather Moto Jacket. Which is so soft. I love it was ringing at Disneyland. I love it and it was wearing it. And I told you I was meeting up the two gals that own apparel company right. Evelyn and so I walk Jill when the gals she was like she thought they saw the skirt because at a patterns it was obvious it was the skirt. Like Oh God. You're wearing a skirt going. No isn't it fabulous and I go and this is our moto jacket and jobs. Like what did know. Didn't recognize. No she was like it looked so she thought it was like a high end designer. Yeah yeah it really came out great? I'm so excited about this collection is such an interesting process. Yeah I love everything into this. I know I've done every every everything of each clothing shoes scarves speaking of design. You'RE GONNA think I'm insane but I think I have to Redo a couple of kids rooms you're going to. I think I have to. What if what if someone buys the house? It's not for sale. I know but people want to buy it. We had someone that came by in the fall. This family and I talked about that. I said like Oh. They're so nice like I would like to see them here but I think I heard they're not buying in this area anymore. Which is fine because Terry was not really interested in moving and so I'm done okay staying. Okay good you know why because I mean we've been here three and a half years. That's the longest we've ever been any place. Yeah but having said that because when the kids are going to college and all it just feels like we'd have to move and then move again and I don't know it just feels like too much so maybe the right move is to stay here for a few more enticing. The timing's not right. So we're here okay. Then it makes sense for show intended to move because the kids designed their room five years ago. And that's I mean longer especially for Coco. You're a different person five years ago when you're only nine well let's think about that. So she was like four three and a half or four and she came out with this little pink bottle of Johnson and Johnson. Baby Wash and said I want my carpet to be discolor right. Handed me the bottle now. I was like okay and then I showed her different furniture different walls whatever and she picked everything but yes she was four. Yeah so here we are. She's now nine does not like girly things at all does not wanna live in a pink room and I totally get it. But it's wallpapered so examines And I'm going. Oh my gosh you have destroyed so wallpapers like a big deal. You have to steaming off the walls and then you have to prime prep them and then what paint paper again. I don't think I'd wallpaper them. You know what cat and Koko. Bob Cat wants to Redo her room to which makes me WANNA vomit. Because I love her room so much. It's gold and that wallpaper and her carpeting was so expensive and she wants to carpet do carbonate while she didn't say anything about the carpet. I really think it's the walls. I feel like carpet. Is I feel like if they keep the carpet. That's all more reasonable and like their wallpaper was so expensive my God and then to. Why would you only do paint and wallpaper again? Because it seems like they both Wanna put things on the walls especially cat cat. Want white walls to hang stuff got it and you know. I grew up. My mom was a designer and we weren't even allowed to choose anything in our rooms lived in a room that was red white and blue had flags. You did yes. Oh my gosh. It gives me a headache. There were flags everywhere. Antique Flags Flag Things. Red White and blue everywhere and it was beautiful. But it wasn't necessarily me my sister. I mean to this day. We still joke about this sister's room. She has her sister's back bitchy and savage and summary. Yes that's how you summarize her hype. Sure she wouldn't don't put Max's naming the title because then she won't listen it. No I know but max no. She's bitching savage do but anyway. My sister's room was all pale. Blue with like a canape. Bad girlie Girlie girlie and my sister warlike no in high school. She went through a punk phase and you know she wet like twelve holes still does all these holes in her ears judgment. I'm just saying she was very she worked. She was off on guard. Who's definitely ahead of time in our high school. She was wearing doc. Martens jackets before anyone. Was You as always like that and so smokes. Those Jerem unfiltered with the canopy rue the blue and my mom. There was a mere and she. My Mom needlepoint did the frame and it said it was Pale. Blue with like right beautiful writing that she needlepoint with little birds. Like think like Cinderella's birds holding up thing and it said you are never fully dressed until you are wearing a smile or would you die. What did your sister thing to this day? We were just talking about it the other day and she was like. I was saying something about my room growing up. She's like really. You're never fully dressed until you're wearing a smile. That's the greatest for your sister this savage and then my mom likes to collect things and my sister didn't and so she used to always buy her. She called her pumpkins. Houston fire like Pumpkin. Things like crystal things and porcelain things. Whatever and what I remember sister took a garbage can and later though just wiped the whole shelf which of the candidates on it. I'm done with the Pomigliano want him. I didn't ask for them. It's great what do you do with your kids and your view just redid your house. They have say beds. Would you do? Yeah within moderation bunk beds which we kind of decided were better for a vacation house or something like that. I mean. They don't like bunk beds. I think it depends on the kid. I think pract. I think I like bunk beds. If their primary bed is the bottom and the top is a fun. Bed or a sleepover. Something not to like. I don't think it's practical at least for my kids to actually sleep on the top. I love the idea for like a vacation house or like a bonus room or a playroom or like I said I just think sleeping on the bottom. It's more practical. They're exhausted. I Dunno or using your budgeting bunk beds for cocoa. Yeah but like you're saying like Nikki. Used to have like a twin over full or something like that but he had a bed like that. So that if you had friends they go up top. They could go up top. Which I think is great and I was there a trundle. Also I can't remember but I agree. I like that for a vacation home. And actually you know we went to see my friend. Bob's house while outspent and we're at this other house also friends of the bellows and they both had rooms with bunk beds and they were so cool they were built into the wall so it wasn't like a free standing or built into the wall and there were two on the left to on the right a little like a little space in between but they were adult size. Wow so if you have teenagers over you have to think like these kids grow up and they come home and then your friends. Yeah until I was thinking I want to. Eventually when they go to college down size I was thinking that would be a cool thing to do. Would be to have like a bunk bed ruins having like a guest room. Yeah have a bunk bedroom but their adult size bunk beds so max brings home three friends. They can crash in there and yeah he brings up. Wouldn't that be great hooper cool? Yeah sort of like on the floor or the cowboys or whatever so that we do have a separate guest bedroom if your mother comes to stay because I don't think she wants sleep in a bunk bed well if it was an adult sized bunk bed and she's on the bottom why not. Yeah okay lasker. We'll see how she let see. How Carol feels about the bunk bed? I think it depends. Who Else is sleeping in? Yes that's true. The company exactly. Okay so you said no bunk bed yup but then I would give options like I think for me. What I learned is the best thing is find options that you think are acceptable and then give them those options. Here are five things I'd be fine with any of these wallpapers. What are you like? Oh for sure I did the same thing like handed yes. She handed me the bottle and I was like. Oh my gosh. It's like PepsiCo Biz Mall Pink. What are we going to do at this and then found different things and you pick which one you like. 'cause she wanted silver and gold and she wanted pink and hot pink. It was very specific. So we've found it with figuring out what put it altogether. So are you thinking about letting them do whatever they want or are you going to thinking about giving them parameters or giving them just the choices and let them pick from that? I think at this point. We'll Max loves her room and all she wants his. Led Lights Brilliant. I'm like great. Where do you WanNa? Led what she's like like bad and then all of their ceilings pop up. Yeah and along there. That'd be they have these things so I thought we could do that. I said but let me do it professionally. So it's you know I don't want you like stapling it into your moldings and stuff like that. Nicky loves his room and doesn't care and I just moved his room around because now he loves the guitar and he plays keyboard to and so I had like. He's got a really large room. So if you go back and watch youtube channel you can see it. But his bed like let's say is in the center and he had a chair and table on the right and a chair and table on the left and then his desk and so I moved the whole seating area to once. I'd made him a music corner. Suber cool right. So that's pretty cool and kind of opened up his space a little bit. He loves his room. He's fine Max. The led lights. So it's really just the two girls and because those are the smallest bedrooms and they're at the end they're definitely kid's bedrooms someday. Whoever buys the House Ozzy's going to Redo it to their own taste? I would think Even if we sell it furnished. Eventually they'll redo it for themselves so I feel like kids rooms kind of easy to do whatever so I think I'm just GonNa find out what they WANNA do right. I have a feeling with Katharina. She wants to keep her furniture and her bed and her carpet and just wants. The Wall stripped white. So if that's all she wants I'm going to do it. And with cocoa she wants the walls stripped and she wants to live in a blue room so replace the carpet the union around that and it's been great carpet pink but it's mostly the walls that bother her so I need to ask about that. I'm almost wondering though if I could put a big area. Rug on top of the pink carpet. Would that be acceptable? And the other thing for her is I would love to move her into a bunk bed that she sleeps on the bottom. Because I've seen or maybe just a loft bed where she sleeps on the top. I don't know that has the desk underneath it. Yes 'cause I'd like her to have more play room and not have the bad take most of their own and not have so much stuff in her room. She did a big perjury. Got Rid of all these toys and all these books. She got rid of her right on Unicorn. Aw Oh I know but you know what wasn't bad because Ena who's our housekeeper Roy at love and she's got a one year old daughter and I love you spend with us for you know. I don't know mine years you and yes since before. Congolese born gave her all the toys. I gave her the good stuff. I gave her the Unicorn and the American girl dolls. And all that stuff because you know what? They're expensive for sure. What am I going to get? I could a bucket of Salam. Good world rather she have. I'm sure they're all in great condition. Perfect addition so she was so happy. I love that. Yeah Coco is going to be the most high impact. It's going to be the most high impact but if I can get it. I think if I can get her to keep carpet she'll be much easier. Yeah if I could just paint the walls fix the molding and switch out the bed. Pull her desk out of there. And other furniture keep just the big white piece review okay. So what's your dynamic with Terry with this type of stuff? Do you need to run it by him? I am sure you let casually do anyways. But is there like you know kind of checks and balances some of you know? Is it like a money level or is it like he wants to know you have to run it by him or do you? Just go with what you want. It's a good question. Well for the rumors sitting right now for the used to be guest room. That is now my war room. I didn't I told them what I was GONNA do. I said listen I like to go. We rarely have people over. And it's just such a waste of a room and I kind of need a place for the fashion line and to do all this stuff and he was like yeah. I think it's a great idea so I'm going to keep all the art and everything that's in here and we have the bed in storage so I could pull it all out and make it a bedroom again. Easy anytime so. He was totally on board that I didn't tell them what it's been like this mirrored partner desk that were sitting at. I've had forever right so I already had this. I just bought these awesome. Lucite chairs the Mongolian further from shop. I love and you know you know. I didn't ask him about this with the two girls rooms. I probably won't ask you think I don't think so. Yeah it's not that high impact right. It's below the radar of. I need to run all this by. Yeah no I mean. I think what I am going to do though. I think it showed on my youtube channel. So Oh the transformation of it yeah and the process and the I love it so let me tell you something so I you know I was going to do a closet tour. Yes and go kind of section by section closet. We've been talking about on the show and I've been asking everyone instagram where you want to see Da da Da. I filmed an episode. That has not been released and like some shoes. Okay and I was telling stories about my shoes and I got them and how I like to wear sneakers does stuff like that and I just feel too uncomfortable. I died and I probably know half the things I knew. What makes you feel weird about it? I just feel like I love design. Okay Ha and I love the house tour to me was me not being like look at my fabulous house. It was like I. I put blood sweat and tears into this house. I designed this house in love it. It's for the love of design and I want to share with you because I know people kind of took that journey with us on house and didn't get to see the finished product and so many people love design that to even just see like the Wrigley detail that I ran through the moldings or how I chose the cabinet or you know seeing all that stuff come together. I get hundreds of messages from people about the house design and what they've incorporated. There's are asking questions about the source something so to me. I find that interesting. There's something about showing like all my bracelets or all my i. Just it's five. It feels wrong. It feels like Oh we just feels agian showy and an honestly. I don't know it just doesn't feel like me. Do I ever call you and tell you if I bought something never and I'm always like what? What is this new thing? Why haven't you told me this because I just I just think your your demeanor is not showy that. I'm sure it wouldn't translate like that I guess so. It just doesn't feel doesn't it just doesn't feel right to me even when you're talking about it in a design standpoint and it's just just beautiful talking about our could talk about the things that I've designed. Yes all day all day but then it becomes a commercial my for my mother's closet line which is great and I'd love to show everyone how we design things but I think instead of making that into a youtube episode. I think just like from now on when I go on my meetings in New York and we work on things. I'm just GONNA show a little bit more of it just so everyone can see the process because it really is cool fascinating and once. This room is finished and my bulletin boards are up and everything and I can show everyone like how I picked the Pan tone. Callers like how Kristen House Mirror what what we do with Avalon or eco-design with my scarves. And how we come up with patterns and colors like that whole thing. I find that fascinating but just saying hey look at my clutch things. I just can't do it. Yeah can you at least do one that maybe is not so detailed? That Joe's shows like a specific cool a couple of or overby down the road. I just it just didn't feel right. It just didn't feel right just didn't feel like me and and I just I don't know D- You're listening to heather do bros. World my family and I love eggs. I love eggs by the way chef. Amanda always makes best Burgers and she knows. I Love My fried egg and she always puts a fried egg on top of my Burger view of. Amanda thank you something. People don't realize is that eggs produced by free range. 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Happy like me and look for their bright yellow happy cartons. Go to happy dot com to find your nearest grocery store that carries them. That's happy egg dot com back. That heather dubrow swirled always surprising in your closet. It's first of all. It's also perfectly organized. But there's not you're very good at keeping it like well purged. It's not like ten thousand pieces of things you know like you always wear something different every time I see you. Maybe it's because you're close so big I was GonNa say I definitely have real estate but now now I look around and like I collecting totes. I'm really into tote bag. It'd be collecting tote bags. And I have all my bags from Heather's closet that I've been wearing and so all of a sudden my center island is covered in covered in bags. And so I'm going to. I need to purge. Don't WanNA purge just. I don't like getting rid of things just to get rid of that ask because I know I have things from twenty years ago I still wear and you hand them down to the girls exactly. That's why I don't know it's hard for me to purge Meghan so funny though Meghan admins. Yeah she was Nobody needs to listen to the podcast. Oh you should hear it. It's great. She was terrific she was onto shows she but she's so funny. She was trying on a dress. This Blue Victoria Beckham dress at this consignment store. She was like posted it and I go. I texted her and I go Meghan. I have that dress just borrow Jews. Had this is yours. What because every once in a while I'll give things to consign that way or it was totally my dress and I looked at my clock. Oh how did she had a Chino with yours? Because they knew they must have known it was my dress so funny to dress is nobody so she takes the dishes. Okay if you don't want to go through consignment let me know purging anything. Let me know which I thought was funny. That is really funny. Yeah but it's hard to figure that out. Let what do you actually get rid of? What are you keep? I don't know what do you do with your stuff? I feel like that's the hardest thing I've ever done those bags that you send in like thread up where they send you like a big bag and you send them all the stuff and then they just send you. I mean it's a much lower percentage something else but is so easy for consignment. Yeah I mean kind of consignment. But it's more like for volume you just feel like a big white bag and you send it to them and they send your check and they said you would check. They have like a debit card or they add money to heal. Yeah and they've how do you know what they're getting very low percent but it's just like you purge so what I usually do is all give that I'll give you know. I'll send the nicest things that I think you know. Listen you've spent money on this that I would you know when I was younger and had more time I would have put on Ebay or offer up or something like that? Also those things that I know would get more to them and then I'll donate the rest of the Stylus interesting. Yeah I if I have okay. I don't really purge that kind of stuff like you know. Sonoma Blazers have had for twenty years already. I keep them because they're in good condition when they die they die. You know what I mean when you've worn it to death or it's torn or you know then you've got to say goodbye but you're not sending that to consignment because it doesn't look good I will put things in vintage box for the girls. And they've pulled it out Max Max recently. She pulled a couple Gucci Jobs. From fifteen years ago she wears you have an actual box like an actual vintage box. Yes I these are the stuff that you purged but that you want to hand them down to them at some point exactly so we. I don't know why we were going through it. I went to go find something there and Max us she actually I had a Gucci wight a cream colored cropped turtleneck that she brought to Europe with us That you just four and why did you purchase? It just wasn't news you anymore just I have no idea. Yeah no because at the time. I guess I was done with it. Whatever and don't really wear that kind of Turtleneck or didn't cropped or it was out of fashion put it in the box I love it. You can still wear a cropped by the way that we'll have to wear highways to with it. It's not like there's a lot. There's like a millimeter of skin showing honestly it's Democrat. It's still like I love on. Yes so so I save most thing I wear until they die and then I'll give them to people like I'll give something to people that work with us to yell or Victoria. Whatever I don't know my mom take stuff can't take stop five a blouse. I'm like Silk Blouse like a nice silk blouse like maybe I like it but if worn it a bunch of times it's kind of had its moment whatever I'll give it to one of them love it. Love is still in great condition. But it's really the and then shoes I wear them till they die pretty much 'cause if you'd like it enough you where you at tell it the only thing is. I do have a few pairs of shoes. That are so uncomfortable. And they're flat Lou. Batons no I have like these gorgeous Chanel ballet flats and they're like cream with a black tip and they have little diamonds all around the side too structured. You needed to hurt. They hurt so bad. I can barely walk to the car so I'm never wearing them and they're just sitting there and they're in perfect condition. Like I should probably purge those. Do you think any of the girls will end up being your shoe size. I think Max almost is my shoe size now. Perfect and probably cat and Koko will never wear anything I own probably so it's fun I know right. I didn't I didn't interview for entertainment tonight while I was at creating cultivate and the cocoa or they say they were asking about you know posting Harry Post about her and suits and all that kind of thing and they were talking about Gabrielle Union And Dwayne Wade's daughter. Who came out as transgender? And we were just talking to like having a conversation about that and it was so I just love that we were talking about it. I love that we live in a time where you know everyone could just be who they are and figured out and not have a huge stigma against them and yeah you know what I was saying like. Oh I don't know all my four kids are straight gay Bi Trans. I just want them to be happy. That's all I care about but I do think it's sad that even to this day people will like if I post something about cocoa a picture. They'll talk about or clothes really now. But the weird thing is you've been so open and you've you've addressed your N. Even there's been conflict with Castilian in those. You've been so honest and open like what's there to talk about. Yeah I don't know this is not asked I love. I love that I get to talk about her and all the kids and I just think it's great that it's such a great open. Yeah an open platform you know. Twenty years ago that would have never been an open honest conversation then you have so casually. Do you talk to your kids about sex not yet. I mean if they ask me questions I'll give him like the kid version. Honest answer why do you ask? It sounds like something happened. No no I've always been honest and open about everything because I told you my mom we didn't. We weren't really told anything right. But but yeah can't ask me a question about masturbation the other day and she was like however you taught me about masturbation. I'm like what do you WanNa know? Let's talk about it and we're driving in it. I just know it was like in passing in pass. That's so her though she so we'll get one of her. Mitch's many amazing qualities. I love. How comfortable she is. She's comfortable talking about anything in front of anyone. Apparently no just I think she had a friend over and asked me okay. It was like yeah. Let's talk about it anytime and we talked about it later but like my sister started talking to her sons about sex when they were really young. Like how Young Young? Like six seven eight like out but it was just like always thing which. I think that's great. I'm not judging that like so. It was never like a taboo subject or different thing okay. Six seems young no judgment but it seems to me you judge. I don't care I mean it just seems young. I'm literally not judging but it just seems like I wouldn't even know how to approach that with a six year old. If books by thank that Max and I started talking about it until she was like ten Feel like it was around ten because they have these really cool places. The birds and bees connection. That'll come to your school or come to your house. We did in our House. And we'd group girls there and they do one for guys and one for girls and they teach you about periods in. Darabont the whole thing but they make it so funny and find. All the girls are together. So they're laughing. You just talk to the moms and said Hey. I'm doing this if you're interested in if you're open to it and it what age. I feel like they were we. Were I remember we were living in Emerald Bay? So we're in the Rental House. So it was like they must have been. She must have been eleven that okay. Yeah I thought it was fascinating. It was and it probably helped her so much more than I have to figure things out later on their own. That's the gold the right information but then I thought wouldn't can't ask me about masturbating. I was like oh I didn't think to cover that. But then I thought God that's a tricky thing to talk about with kids because you can explain it but then like do you explain vibrators like we're like how far do you yeah. I don't know if I need everyone to weigh in dear. So how far did you go when you explain it to her later? I basically just told her that. It's you know figuring out what what feels good in your body and totally natural and it's good to know what makes you feel good and it's it's something that people do in private good and that was good for her. She felt like she was satisfied with that. Answer yeah she was good with. That answer was a little more involved in that Basil. And so have you said anything to Coco about all of this. No Do you feel like around ten. It's probably I think I think. Probably the answer is when they actually start enquiring when they when they get a but we don't make it a taboo subject either right like you know. They see US hugging kiss. They yes terry not like off limits like out at all but I was just curious if you Craig talked about. Are you had a plan no plan? I think it's usually stuff like this. Usually like you know the kids starts at. He's like you say we're going to bring it up out of nowhere. But once they start to seem curious or inquire into my girls are so close together just over a year apart do together. Yeah probably so Okay maybe although you know what I have to say that I just said that out loud. It's nice to have a private conversation. You 'cause like with Max. I don't know if ever told you this story. So when Max when she period I bought her. A necklace told me. Yes Taekwondo one day when it happened today yes so I bought her this necklace with special things on it and then we had such a great moment and now if I ever bring it up like roller is or whatever but we this really beautiful home and then I was worried they were going to sell out of them so I bought two more for the other two girls but yeah I think it's nice to have that moment that she remembers you and her alone because even though they're only a year apart Schuyler and I are only sixteen months apart but we were lumped together a lot right and I feel like there's something like my favorite year was when she went to college and I was alone. Yeah because I felt like I finally had that moment. Yeah I think you should do it separately so the end if they have questions you don't ask in front of someone else. Do you think involve dad or don't know because it's a girl or at least girl what's funny is you would think because. Terry's doctor that they would totally be comfortable talking about all the tough. They're not definitely not. It's a dad thing. Yeah I think that may sense still figuring out on your own okay before we go. I'm going to switch gears just for a second because today while we're recording this is the memorial for Kobe gee-gee at Staples Center and I only saw a little piece of it. And watch it leader with Terry. But he did see Vanessa and on my God. She's just an incredibly strong woman. She looked beautiful but I just I. I'm an offer and the love amazing and for for these two and obviously remembering everyone. Yeah that was on the helicopter and I know we talked about that one day and we haven't talked about it since I'm not talking about on the show because I feel like you know like I said we're here to entertain and and maybe escape from this kind things but I think about all those families all the time and you and I talk about it all the time and we've even talked about on the podcast. This is still weighing so heavily on our hearts. How do we not talk about it? But just a you know we're thinking about it and all those people are always in our hearts and our whole community still has a dark cloud over it. Don't you feel like everyone is still so sad and you know to some degree always will be? Yeah but you know just in the interest of trying to keep it light and letting people escape from their world and have an ice drive. We don't talk about it every day exactly but I just wanted to say for today because this is happening that my thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected and to all of us and just you know hugger babies a little tighter tonight maybe truth be so grateful mandatory about the little things he great fit grateful for the people in your life that you know not everyone's perfect. It's Ok p grateful for people that have given to you. If people that you've given to for I just everyone you guys so much for all of your support you can download us down spotify and you can go to itunes and leave his five star review and tell us what you love about heather world. But I'm so grateful for all of you and for your support and I know Lindsay is as well yeah. I'm grateful for you allowing me into this cool community because we just all learn so much from each other. I do me to share your best off. That's right always thank you guys so much and we won't see them. 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FASHION HAGS Episode 72: Evan Ducharme's HIREATH

Fashion Hags

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FASHION HAGS Episode 72: Evan Ducharme's HIREATH

"Right. I'm Abby, I'm Evan. And I'm Katie, and you're listening to the fashion heads, we love to love and love to hate off things fashion. Hello goyal's. We're back here in the basement the hag czar back. Yep. It's back to the next time in basement trying. Stay consistent in our trying. Trion shining every with sun. Any time of year in Vancouver. Where you just really don't wanna leave your fucking house. Yeah. No. Are you crazy? It's it's not pouring rain. True. It's true. I every time I host Sonae. I'm like, I gotta get out of here. This could be the very last every everybody getting last chance gotta get out. Gotta go to the park. Now, it's gonna start raining for six months. Could be happening as we speak could be by the time. We leave the house today could be it. Yes, tides can change. Anyway, you guys episode seventy two last week was our catch up hangover Serie sessions, fun fun. But we're what's going on abs-? What's new with you? What was I going to talk about? I was going to talk about. Shit. I also had something I was gonna talk about all talk about this because we had fashion hikes. Oh, yes. Moment time event way activity, which is doesn't happen very often anymore. These days alone hit the scene out. So make up on and everything all of us did. Before we did. We went to the time. I thought it started ups knows perfect. But hero Aaron Gibson, author of feminist, easy and hilarious. Putt cus. Our podcast host Bernie throwing shade, which we've talked many times sin to it. She had her book lunch here. And so we all went a veasley, and we got our book signing, and we hung out, and we re gendered all the leaders of the world. Yeah. And we got rid of the Deutz and put some females in power. And yes is super fun event. She read, you know, a slow PowerPoint on shady women. Yeah. Great. Good swear, which was fantastic. So nice to know that there's like other people out there in the world who are just as furious just constantly Yuming at the surface just consciousness state of just mild to moderate rage. But also like can have holding together and still trying to be a good person and enjoy life. It's a delicate balance. It was hilarious. She had to I guess it was at the chapters. Indigo location a big Barnes and noble style corporate fancy bookstore. So there were certain words, she was not allowed to say, which was actually hilarious. She did shoot. A really good thing that it was really funny. She changed the b word betray on though. It's bitch. If you don't know. Stern into bagel. But then it also morphed into beagle. Typo powerpoint. So it was beagle. Also works which was also good. And then see words. What did she? Which was great. And then there is a couple of times. It's just made me laugh so hard you just nailed it. But there's a few where she just like leaned the microphone away like everybody lead in to say all the dirty jokes can actually was great jet into microphone shared space. Yes. Into the American Girl doll -tection. That's. All those huge. And gibson. Thank you so much for coming in for signing our book and for the team picture, you'll have already seen it on our instruments gramps Lutely, she's the best the best. Indeed. That was good times. And we think together which was like out of a podcast, which does not happen. Very often. Yes, it's true. I wonder what what everyone thinks our lives are like side of the podcast. Like is as as a unit. Do they invision us like going to Renfrew in like having lunch at Nordstrom doing all that stuff? And it's like no bitch career women. Yes. And we barely see. I barely leave my studio slash house. This point this podcast was a point to make us see each other. And then also make a podcast, but it was just an excuse to hang out and see each other. So talk about bunch dumb shit that stuff. Yeah. That's true. That's true. To my swatting ever noticed dump staff as I picked the foundation. Maybe that I know is there that I forgot to go always had to do my eyebrows. Yeah. Just to get little q tip and clean them. A little. I don't know how to do eyebrows. I did go. I'm thirty four years old. I get it. I rose for the first time for a wedding this summer. And I was like, oh, I see my people. Do this. Not me. Yes, sir. I I'm gonna commit to do. Just for eyebrows. Or my going twenty seven dollars on an eyebrow up. Now. No got tweezers. That's fine. We're good. Limit is twenty dollars per item, right them except for foundation. You can afford to go up a little bit Soviet whole face. Yeah. Exactly. If it's shitty. It'll show your face will look like it's cracking. But I. If you aren't familiar with Sephora, first of all the Faulk Pauline in in Europe. Really? But anyway, if you are part of their like beauty insider, we get a little card, and you tap your points. Redeem your points for little samples and stuff, which is great. I do it all the time. The fucker the kids doing their kids are having a dense party. I think somebody's boring boots upstairs stomping around maybe maybe. But anyway, if your member of their V I V I P beauty the month of your birthday, you get a little gift, and it's great. It's great every year. There's usually two or three choices of brands. They put an it's just a little tester of lipstick and eyeliner whatever it's by brand too. So. Got some glam glow mask and moisturizer said today today mail it to you order it through you can order it through the website. I don't know if they would just send it to on its own. I think it's gonna say. Going to say. Fill out the well. Fail the slim on your slip. Don't don't don't forget to your address. That's funny. But. I needed Nylander into us. Like we were super close to. It says I told a coworker who's super intimate up. It was going to go. And then I was worried that was going to get the glam glow glow. Glam glow one. And then be like, oh my God. This is awesome. And then go get the masks, and they're literally seventy five dollars. For like a tube multiple uses out of it. But is seventy five dollars. That's mike. We'll get the nine dollar one. Single use one that won the two ninety nine months from the pharmacy. Those wins the life sent sheet masks. Yes, that's the one. But anyway, the free one I'll try the free. She was the real use the Dermot roller just to feel real fancy with your name. Yeah. Yeah. Roller. Does it actually do thing? Just make you feel like it doesn't really improve circulation open stuff, and you have to do it in a pattern and you roll up. Always being fed is bullshit. Or is it does it for you can get ones that have like micro needles on it that are supposed to put like micro. Mike scarring micro roller is probably actually better than just ninety percent of face cleans the good Jade roller. I think because it's like it's like actually touching your skin. It's technical. It's mechanical actually like flushing things out and getting your circulation going and stuff as opposed to just a cream you put on before bed, and then it's like into weeks you're supposed to look younger. No, no, no this like works. The muscles in the actual physical attributes of your face and not just see snail. Jim. Weird mask last week while I got so I forgot I was doing. I was like. Like, ten minutes area. Slab this on. I thought it was just like a weird goo, but it's a weird that you actually feel like you can feel tingling. Yeah. I can try the ones that you put on and then they bubble. Those aunts racket my favorite. He's a snake. Venom ones. I haven't tried. The naked eye patches to. Che's there's fancy what is was the one that even Hollywood do. It's not putting the put them in the freezer. Yeah. Like gold. It's like dude with three names. Mario badescu. Now. There's another one anyway any Michael hall. That's it. Neil, Patrick, Harris. That's the one who's Dexter think. It's him rubber Louis. Stevenson. Was looking for I use a nude. I shadow pellet. There's three different sets of color, some really branching out so invisible that it's paints and and Browns, but most just use the pink glittery pink and glittering rose alabaster it's called like the nude pallet faced one the brand. And it's nude pallet. Because I'm not adventurous, your weight that should be noted. Yes. And also, but also I've been told that Brown eyed girls, can we're all the colors, it's the blue and green eyed girls that had the limitation. Thank god. I thought it was me. It's my sins. Your blue is this your back. What a relief I can go by my lightens, you go so anyway, Brown eyed girls can do a lot more with their with their colors than other colored. I colored girls whatever. So I was looking for apparently, I don't know. And also, I love Sephora, and I spent a lot of money there. I have never gotten one second of help from anybody who works really everyone their burger with help. They're they're on many prisons, but they will always cleaning or they're always helping. I'm like, how are you helping someone else? I literally in the store one hundred times in the past ten years or something never once has anyone helped me the people that that the tiller always super nice anyway. So I was trying to find it was the opposite f- ETA was like he had to fly. Yeah. Now, they're all busy. It's like when you're watching like, an eighty dollar foundation from Dior, you'd think someone that wanna come in help you to get that money out of your wallet. And recommend the concealed. What else you got to go right to doing it? Right. Yeah. Right. The powder and then in in the end, the right brush and the whole situation. The natural versus aesthetics and finish that you want. Anyway. So it's like you burn islander. Apparently, I was looking for gold eyeliner, but I wanted to gold liquid. A pen island afraid of guy liner. No, any maybe I look online stickers. We're talking before we started recording these I'm watching Pat McGrath miss might be obsession for another time. And she just see best makeup videos on her Instagram. It's the best and it's the coolest shit, and it looks amazing. I found Mark Jacobs one and it'll do for now, but it's a pencil and I wanted like a pin like a marker. I can't do I wanted to clean the very high shimmer, but Mike the McDougals pretty good this cold on. I can only do I can only do like the pencil like the coal. Yeah. Pencil eyeliner because it just irritates my eyes. Sure. Yeah. Right. Time for like years ago, I discovered this. And I was like, oh, this is another reason. I don't care for me. This is another point against you. I never got a chance to learn how to do it properly because my eyes are just like find a brand that doesn't happen. But you probably have to try six seven different ones. All twelve to thirty dollars e some like, yeah. Go would probably be good brand for you. I have a good pencil that I that is the go-to. Yeah. You sound like wear makeup. I wear makeup may be six times a year. Sure. Truly, and it's the same thing. I do every time the same married. I'm tired due date liquid liner on. And sometimes I blend a pencil liner on. And that's it. Yeah. You have cut crease for errands moment. Crease I'm trying don't tell you been getting a better brushes. I need different colors of like, I said all of my shots swished which match my. Alabama after skin. But anyway, that's what I was today. Got me birthday party gift gold eyeliner. Howdy birthday. We should say happy. Yes. Go. She's eight hundred years old. She's only looks like she's like maybe mid thirty Margaret's twenty. So. Oh, that's all. It was like twenty. Michael. Or is it ten dollars? So I'm very low key member. But it was nice. Get things that you can be like by going to do my thing for my birthday. I myself see late a millionaire. That's always good. Yeah. Listen to very depressing episode of cereal as I walked around winters. I season me neither I kinda tried. Yeah. I'm mindless in the mall. I think I need. I need one story to be to pull me through. I need to get attached to a character. Should listen to stranglers? It's very good shit. Yeah. Ever finished. I finished my business program. Finished the classroom element of it. So the rest of it is basically field work. That's what it's written as in the program. Oh, I need to go out and follow through on my year. One plan from running my business, which is going to be a hell part. You know, just that. It was one thing writing it. And now, it's another thing entirely to have to do it. Old into an institution like a school. You told them you were going to do something it'd be like deer the year, I'm going to be going into meetings with my program visor, and he's going to be like, so where are you in your cash projections? Right. Where are you in your market rollout your marketing rollout? Have you done all the marketing activity that you wanted to do within this amount of time? Right. If so has have you had a return on investment, you know, it's just like. Let me just hold on real fucking quick here. Stop myself in. Yeah. It's really exciting. I never thought I'd go to business school. I was never that. Kind of academic always much more interested in literature and social studies and could give two shits about math or law or anything. Yeah. Yeah. On until you realize, you know, what there's math and everything. That's true. Oh, they weren't lying when they told me that in grade ten. But it it's it was more like a different way of thinking about what I do. And that's this is a good episode to bring this up because it's up soda is gonna be a quick little recap show on my most recent fashion show. Yeah. Tell us what is called because every time I saw red nose like. Yeah. Oh, hey. I don't know what it is. It's here. I hear I was close with depend. From wales. His. English. Welsh welsh. And it means it's this sense of longing that you have for your home for your your homelands. I see. So why did you choose a Welsh word, this is it sounded the meaning because it came it came to me, and I it encapsulated that that sense. That I was feeling when I was making this collection. I think like moving forward I really want to be true to my own experiences in indigenous person, Canada and not. Be a not not attach myself to things or narratives or things that have that have nothing to do with my experience because. Everyone. And this includes everyone in Canada or what is known as Canada, everyone experiences colonialism differently and learns about it differently. And from nothing at all to oppression every day. But also like like, colonial violence doesn't just extend to indigenous people, of course, it doesn't. It has a lot to do with our history, but colonialism has affected people who've been brought here with unwillingly people who had to come to Canada to escape persecution in their own country and escape violence in this game powers, and poverty and. Of. So like, it's my my understanding of colonial violence has kind of expanded. And not includes women, of course. Like colonialism is a patriarchal system by by nature. So a lot of the equipment that women face in Canada in US have allowed to do with the settler colonial way of life. And how women were like stripped of power beacon is right and denied right now. Just so that the institutions that have become known as in the United States could exist and showed in six oppression in general is it's all if you of course, it you need to look at how it relates to one another and how it differs, but. It's all it's all interconnected, and you and comparing there's really nothing to be gained by comparing people's oppression. You need to see how they fit together and how they worked together to hold each other up and that is kind of. What I'm aiming to do with my work. And and part of that is state shoot to my own experience in telling people how it's been for me, and my family and people I'm connected to within this framework. So tell us with all that in mind, how do you get from that to putting address on the runway? Trick question. How does it work a lot like I can attest to this? Because you've worked with me since will, you know, like since I've become professional, quote, unquote, designer like when I met you guys I was not a professional quotes, she who wrote quote, profess you don't have a day job paid to do this people seek you out specifically because they know feud year professional there is. And there's Esther. Imposter syndrome is fucking real real, especially when you're you don't have a day job. And you keep yourself alive with the money. You get from this. Thank you, just straight up. Dictionary the Dixie time. That's that's what that is. That would be the proverbial slop down not on my, watch slapping down. But I'm gonna push back up yet. It's the. You guys can attest to this. Like a lot of my process doesn't doesn't actually happen in the sketching in the cutting and the draping and the making clothes intellectual more in the process in the research being in the ideas and really. Part of the reason why I wanted to quit fashion in general is because I felt like I wasn't allowed to say what I wanted to say in my work and still be commercially viable, and and and be successful in the industry, and it's professional. Exactly that I like, no one would be interested in buying my clothes. If I was saying what I wanted to say with my work, and now people are buying my clothes because of what I'm saying. So now, I feel like I have an obligation to be think really critically. But what I'm gonna say with my work. Pretty common thing for artists who are serious serious in behind omitted about it and try and get it from like thing. I like to do a thing that I am passionate about into a for lack of a better turn of phrase away of life. Like, this is this is how you spend your time. And I think that's a common thing. But I also think that it's not particularly well understood how this question like like, I can just hear my dad listening at home. Hi, chris. Hi, michigan. Katie's dad. Hiking immune amazing birthday card. We all we all had a good. Chris shared it with these two. They would love it. Was so cute. My dad doesn't even know to turn on a computer. Hey, I got a paper card in the mail for my dad to it. Head. Oh, yeah. Yes. Good. But anyway, I came here. The questions dad is thinking has had and it was like, how do you get from this description of of what all your thoughts are too? Sometimes the word lends itself to the collection, and sometimes we need to find the word to fit what we're saying. Because this is a woman that I just liked to do with my company. I heard it. I don't know. I read it somewhere. I heard an interview somewhere that someone said that a good collection should be able to be described in one word, and I like that. I like that. Because I love that word that you chose is definitely spot on. Yeah. And but I don't mean that I mean like all of these thoughts and feelings about into into Jerry inlex, art, Simoni Eliza. Okay. That's cool. You can see that you're passionate about those things. But how does that turn into a address that you put on the runway other people can in appreciate and understand your vision in your messaging? I mean, the whole bread and butter the whole bones of it like you on the spot. But like the thing the thing that was that. I really do we looked at the outset of of designing this collection and thinking about it and thinking about the mood, and what it would look like. When I when I first started to mention my family in my in my people in my work. I felt like it would be disrespectful to continue on in this like overtly sexual kind of message and visual branding that. I've done before in the past because you can you can look at the collection. I did before gin, and it was very sexually driven very sheared. That was when we did the jock straps for the first time, high slits, everything was super body con in very fashion in like little explorers of silk on like, naked bodies leg. It was very sexually driven. And then when I jump into the next season when I'm discussing shifting your filings. And I just it just wasn't appropriate like everything needed to be very covered up. And it was it was like there was no cleavage. There was nothing. There was a fabric law. Everything was like, very voluminous and everything was layered and covered up. And that's like I also like. Also like when I was feeling. Yeah. In my own life. I wanted to be I I wanted to be very like closed off. And like it was like an armor that I was putting on and I was dressing people for having to survive choice. Yeah. We're going to get to that. Like, you said if you present your heritage and stuff, and that's not gonna work. Then as I kept going on. And I started to become more involved in my community through dancing, and then of course, through fashion when I went to Toronto and when I got involved with indigenous fashion week Vancouver. I saw that I I could still honor the ancestors in that way in that in that way of giving them reverence and referencing them, but I could still create work that is going to feed and fill the people who are here who are still alive and worry now. Yeah. And a a lot of that is is an awesome out siders who wanna buy it because it's good and well designed and beautiful. You gotta get a lot of boxes. Exactly. And then I I wanted to create work for this. This group that this group of digit queers in queer indigenous people in Cutie by folk the queer trends blocking. Indigenous people of color that. That made reference all like the way that I like to dress. When I go out and marrying all those kinds of world, basically marrying all of these pieces that I've done throughout my collect throat might Myers before speaking about my Jannati within my work and bringing it in altogether because I am all of these things I'm not I'm a child of colonialism. I'm a child of of the modern world. I'm a child of the digital age a material of the sexual revolution in. It's just like. I think maybe like you. Who else would be doing that right now? Nobody that's what I need to be doing. I need to be doing the things that nobody else can do. Yes. Because the real. Yeah. And that China is someone else. Exactly. It's funny that person's taken exactly that hold true. Uh-huh. Yeah. I have it on among upstairs. It's the kind of thing that you just have to you can read it eight hundred times a mug upstairs. But until you actually have to really livid apply it to yourself and seed in a way that comes along at the right time. And you know, is able to be applied in the ways that you see it working and to be inspired to that it. I ring it does to you until you're ready for it to apply to you. Yeah. Yeah. And you're there we should mention as well that this show was not just a show of yours. It was a showcase of an you other in digital design Lord for not. POC queers, but wears very much part of the part, but not the. Except for my see. Okay sees. Yep. Yes. But it was a it was it was a great event. Didn't like these kids really fucking hit the ground running. And I, and I know what it is like to pull yourself up by bootstraps and do something like these kids really style eight years younger than you. John. And they pulled up an amazingly professional well done show hats off to Ashley Ashley. Produced the fuck out of that shit. Yeah. It was so well done, and yeah, it was a great. It was a great atmosphere all day, like a great sense of community. There was a great representation of necessities on the runway and yes gender identities. And and it was wonderful. It was the audience to which was nice. I mean to see them as an outsider of all of these things. Head white woman. Standing up. It was really nice to just be in that space for me. I can't even imagine what a fellow like for them right to be in such awesomely positive will first time they've done outside of like a like governing whatever or fashion week. Sure. You know? And we had a lot of agency over what we wanted on the runway what the style was going to be like like all. Yeah. She could be Hella weird and not have to clean it to someone. Yet. It was it was a really good experience. And then everyone did such a great job and all the clothes were so good and everyone had their own points of view. And and I think that is so necessary like in a such a small industry like Vancouver that we get these opportunities to hold and create a space where it's all locally grown talent. And and you really, and it's not like the regular fashion weeks where we're competing with brands from outside of the city check for exposure area size or whatever. Yeah. And they all have they are we all kind of like on a level playing field. Like, we're all. I don't know. I definitely felt like like I was I was grandmother and everybody knows anti helping like giving like words of wisdom in lake telling people to calm down. Here's something. A very different experience in that sense. Because mostly it's been telling me people telling me to calm down to tell me what to do telling me to eat. Yeah. And I was just chilling and just. And and y'all have seen me in some. Yes. It was really fun. All of the clothes were done at midnight the day before the show. Oh, really hours of sleep. Yes. I did. Good for you. That does not. That's not. No. So how many looks did you have eleven eleven of you call and you had boys and girls in fem. And ladies and Dame's and whatever. The whole spectrum. That's so great. Yeah. We've seen that you favorite people who come again, and again, and again, some new some Perennials. Beauties some new energies. That was great did have a standout piece for you. Like, your your little finale dress Jason war, tell us about it. I don't know. I didn't I wasn't at the show Hillary one another thing that I really wanted to do this season is start to put people on the runway and in the advertising that reflect the people who buy my clothes exist in the world. You know, that's a novel. I my clients and customers whether it'd be stuff that they buy online or stuff that they get custom made in the studio. They're all different body types all different gender identities. Jerry. Ages and nationalities and whole situations where they. They fit there. It's a beautiful spectrum. You know, and I just looking back on my history. And and my like, visual, basic view, Google me. The only people you see wearing my clothes are thin bodies thin. European like European standards of beauty, basically, I'm upholding these ideas of beauty that the fashion end. I've been rained with requires of you. Yeah. Successful that we were an old person dark-skinned per se on over this size. You know says. Yeah, anyway, but I had I realized I had a lot of baggage that I needed to sort out from being educated in the western fashion academy insure being I'm studying all night being an absorbing high fashion. Pure repetition. Just all these visuals. It's hard shake just in the same way. People need to. Shake the way they think about somebody because of the color of their skin or because of who they're from exactly language the last name or whatever, right. Yeah. It's like you need to need to shake the shackles of. Shot a big insurance. Like, we all have our we all have where to do like like, I think like because I make such grandiose statements that some people might think are grandiose like I really do need to. Admit when I'm wrong. And actually. Yeah. Knowledge because like, I do a Ken and do create work and clothing for all bodies sharp, and you can't tell that because my clients are private and they don't share photos. They I don't see photos of my clients and their garments. Sometimes they send an Email being like, thank you so much, blah, blah, blah. And that's not you know, it's like people not everybody wants to be put on the Instagram. Yeah. You know? And that's like. And you and you buy you buy like with it doesn't mean. Yeah. Your money with your money. You buy the right to say, yes or no to one into posted on. Yes. Online the people to bring back to the fashion industry, generous, look at all the people who are Kapoor patrons. These people are no because insurance. And you will never know lots of the time. Like, that's what normal regular people. Do a lot of money. You'd rather be quite and these people are seeking you out for a not everybody wants their wedding photos online. Not everybody wants periods about this. But it really good just to be more inclusive on the runway inclusive in advertising and inclusive in social media in general, general, branding, imagery and stuff like that. Yeah. I think part of it too is just talking about it as as though it's not this crazy Wild Thing. It's like, no, no on the something. This isn't like a way. She hey, we be found on Instagram. Yeah. Exactly. Like inclusivity is not a hash, Hank. You should be building a brand on it should be it should be fucking part of it. It should just be the standard. Obviously is not. And we have a million miles to go. Including that in your in the very base of of what do your function on every level? Then we men then it becomes easier and easier and easier to have those conversations, and it becomes either easier for other people to see that. Yeah. Well, he's doing and it's no big deal. And like oh shit. I didn't realize I wasn't. Yeah. I the only way to change the tide really is is to is to create a new expectation new standard of decency when you normal distri. You know, this is what a personal yet. Like, this person is just as valid important and interesting. The blonde model victorious. So don't match. Angry mega to heated off the microphones. More than me talk about settler colonialism. No, you're I in in how to talk about that diplomatic. Yeah. I guess. Bad. Yeah. I was getting that whole woman side of that particular argument secret being a woman around that shed our whole lives for ever I've never had to shop for abroad. This is like. Yeah. We have something we could be why ably infuriated about I was this is bit of a side. I was outside. No, never you guys. Like us. I know stop that president. I we're up for drinks in friends like maybe a year ago, but we were is a friend who was getting married. That's right. And she was talking about the bride to be was talking about like getting address or like, whatever the usual bullshit. And her hoops, you gotta jump through yet, and, you know, losing weight and being in good shape, and blah, blah, blah. And her soon to be husband was like, he's he's like, why does everyone think that like that, you know, women that men want women to be super skinny and like slim like, why does everyone think that Choi? Trading like literally every direction for girls since they were five or six years old, literally everywhere at all. That's where angle from everything. Your I lands onto everything. You're you're touches to everything you read or sitting next to or the way that he freeze. It was like that, you know, the that's what men want, and it's I mean, let's you're in a little self absorbed because it's not just about what men want. But it touches is nothing. It touches on the exact truth of like this whole patriarchal bullshit of the male gaze and all of this perpetuating, this beauty standard that has nothing to do with men and yet they control the entire equation. Just like I was like, oh, I can't actually have. We're having time. I ruin this night. We're having disassociate for ten minutes. Yeah. Glosses wine. I'll be right back or gimme a double gin and on. And we will hash this out. You're in the lakes. Very smart goals. And he he didn't eat it in like a. Why is this like this? He was as like curious in fresh rated as as the rest of us, but it came from a place of complete ignorance, which it so often does. But I was like, oh, no, literally everywhere all directions at our entire lives. So one hash puppy. Oh, that do you want to know more? You know, what let's let's not just have a great wedding have fun. Yeah. That's why your friend is getting. That's why. Yeah. Because because of that she has of that it's not because of you has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with you. Fuck and rep your head around that. This this this this gives me the feeling of when people are sick. Oh, like, I watch this documentary on residential schools made me so sad. And so a shame initially like I'm not gonna help you absolve your guilt. You work. Because it's fucking bummer. Yeah. Yeah. Dinner party, Barbara. Replace the ball of wine and shut the fuck. Don't talk to me talk to your other white friend dummy. Don't talk to me by native writers. Yeah. Yeah. Support Nita ample opportunity to your own education doesn't involve maybe go to a protest some. Yeah. Oh, man. I'm. Wanted to add about your show you or a there are I was like God out of my car. And then I saw bunch of weirdos smoking cigarettes in an alley, and I was like that's where. So I went in and I cut roped into working right away. Doubts. Fine. Him down to the backstage came up Tyson people in dresses. Gorgeous photo of abbey lacing somebody until core says it's my arms hands blurry. She's probably mid mid PO just fit her quite nicely. Well, it's one of the benefits of a dress to get laced into its you could be anybody type. Because it's all it had lacing up the side and up the back. So. And this is a matter of time. Titan which want the losing? Then you need someone to help you get into it. Yes. You're not getting yourself into that dress. But it was a good time said there was a great five backstage super organized. It was great. I went out and sat and to the livestream for ya. Just great. We'll open the show a mesh dress which I loved that one. That was another one that I really love. Yeah. I just liked it was so as someone who was bald your career since the very beginning pretty much. My was the very beginning. If you come into Vancouver. Had a many years other than the eight that I've known you. But it really fields or felt lake. Use the word culmination. But like it's not the peak because we will go on from this. I don't mean to meet it as like that's eight attack of your own hill. But it really did feel like an evolution and progression of everything you've ever done before. That's really really all. You can ask for. It's like as you say, you know, you take you each season. You do what you can't. And then you build and you learn and explore and I know better you do better. Exactly. And I really feel like you accomplished that with this. There's things that I'd seen before done better or new interesting way or just shifted enough. Or like just the perspective twisted a little bit new things that I'd never seen before. But that's still fit and seamlessly with the other things and like, especially your. Was it origin? I forget that had like your dad's hunting stuff, which I really liked. But that seemed like I I hate to use the word like rudimentary like like, a, very basic. Marrying of those two things of your personal history and experience in your life, and then your fashion side. All is that what you mean? It was more literal in more. Yeah. More straightforward like, you just made your dad's quilted jacket, and you made it really chic, but then the next season for atavism you had the ramp like the big shoal deal. Right. That was take off of a quilted jacket, but Fash and you wrap arounds beautiful gown. But it's still, and then, you know, stuff like that that happened the the big skirt you had for atavism that was all the feathers and things that you didn't get to do because time and money and the universe. Just working. But that blue dress that I got to lace up that had the little the little bits of white fabric that looked like feathers that were those fun Appliquee. Okay. And soci-, so high fashion and haute couture, not like high fashion. Like, it's an insult magazine. I'm talking could tour what do you mean in styles fashion? It's got one on the car again. What was I gonna say? I've been obsessive McQueen for a long time. And after watching one of his documentaries, the one that was only m two which went through his last few shows. Com being able to see how he did it. And he had he does that where he there's so much research and brain and him just sitting and ruminating and thinking an adding and subtracting and combining and multiplying and dividing things in his brain before he even sketches anything or so is anything, and that is your process like you said, it's very. It's very frontloaded your process, right? The beginning of it is making is expensive. You gotta make sure sure. But the time you get to buying the fabric buying fabric, cutting it having a consultation with somebody because that's the thing too. You don't wanna have a constitution with somebody? And then have to redo it. Also, you don't get paid for that time. No, you hemorrhage money when you make a collection. Yes. And theoretically, you make it back, and that's why that's why things like oh couture. Like, yes, you are spending money on the actual hours at took for the foremost experts in the world to make this. But you're also paying for the five years that this idea has been played with the only way that you never see that all of a sudden you'll skit it's ten thousand dollars you're paying for the heritage that knowledge that's passed down on how to make all the mistakes that have been made of the samples that have been passed versions and they try to two seasons ago, but it didn't work because x and y and the now they yeah. Which is what you were doing a good job. My friend. Hugh, Honey, where we see images are they some there's some backstage images that are being shared right now on on the Instagram page into shrimp studio, I'm gonna be shooting a new look book for these new pieces, and they'll be available soon on the website. Yeah. We'll put him up on on the all because y'all got to see this shit. Yo. And we'll put a link to your Instagram. I mean, there's a link on the Instagram on the website, all the time fashion podcast dot com. I don't think I say that enough because it is there an index in the bumper on every post there's all of our yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then at the top two if you go, and I think there's meet the heads. I think our information into although I say that now, and I think wait a minute. Any way pretty good spot. Here. Are we overtime your great? Great great because I really have to p gushing time. So I'm just having a really good time for me to go to that. I. I don't want a big one time when spoilers dead the whole time. My secret Evans that he that was we were talking about something he said that's be my obsession. And then I press record. Okay. Okay. Art. Yes. Can we just do a friendly reminder before we before we do this this? We are coming up on black Friday cyber Monday. Yes. Spend your dollars wisely. We are also coming up in feeling we have to but don't feel like you need to shun the whole thing because it is people's livelihood. Yeah. People make money money to Amazon give your money to your local do not ever have your money. I just don't do it. So you can be black Friday enough you monster. Yes. Go to your little neighborhood, tcb because they will take your money, and they'll be way happier with they're forced to do black Friday shit too. Because they're doing it. Also, we've already talked a little bit about this. But it is thinks giving and just remember that it is a colonial bullshit holiday kated and people are hearing about it and just be of people's entities towards thing. This time of year. Yeah. There's the whole historical context. And then there's just the straight up like family drama that happens. Yeah. A lot of the time together. Let's give strength to the people who maybe it's not fun to be with. You're gonna say maybe we're having a really hard time because the shitty in town, and they have to consider across the table and their shitty racist, or or homophobic, or shittier problematic parents or whatever. Yes. So are we're with you self care. So if you need to lock yourself in a bathroom and just play on your phone for twenty minutes do. Do it. Anyway, I felt like I had to say that before we get forgotten. Then I really wanted to say serious message of love I actually action for people know what day it is this recording actually is relevant. Never happened. Oh shit. We should I meant to anyway. Katie life, self care. Yes. Thanksgiving is nonsense. Go on Evan obsessions. During the food thanksgiving. Living kick. Tricks him and tell reference for anyone isn't the no. So I may or may not be which. Okay. All right. I can other confirm nor deny. Okay. All right. We won't pressure. You right now you so I have always loved which narrative, even even a problematic, which even the bullshit ones. Magic. What all these nonsense of the Whigs alone. Yes. The way that the wig le'ts. Even the kids wear wigs believe it or not I think the brunette girl might not but little Evan. Rachel would definitely is wearing a little a little unit. Wigs and witchcraft on Brad. There you go right there. So I've ever run into him the street to talk about that. So to get to jump off Sabrina Sabrina was last week. Right. We've talked a little bit about that bullshit down on their. Yes. Also, there was some bullshit on American horror stories. That's what we talked about last week. And then now the finale he's been happening. Four alert. There's a simple shit. They bring they bring a black woman back from the dead, and then Chey murders of black woman than this. Basically Marie Lavelle comes back from the dead. And then she murders the new Queen. And then she gets her heart ripped out by the anti Christ. Which is a white blonde do on, dude. And it's just sometimes sometimes you don't wanna see that on television. You don't wanna see Angela Bassett at her heart ripped out by white boy can't black lady just lamb can she just? Not even on top just like survive, a live people be alive by the end place. Yeah. That'd be nice. Can all the white girls. You want? That's fine. Yeah. There's so many there's a lot of them a lot to choose from especially in American horror story, especially American the dis of humanity show, that's fully another witch narrative that mean Katie have been part and parcel to for quite some time. Potter one? This pre exists your fringe, definitely. Yeah. And now that all of these new movies are coming out the fantastic beasts movies. I just went and saw the most recent one in there. Some fucking bullshit in there to basically like every like POC witch or POC magical character in this new Harry Potter universe is like a foil or a plot line. They're not really like a fleshed out character with with agency. Like, they're kind of just like. Especially the test for people of color because there should be. I think it is included in the Bechtel tests. Okay. So I was gonna say because all you could just ask to replace woman with person. And see what see what? Patriarchy's have to shift the other. It would be easy to other tests like daycare rolling wrote female characters that really only existed to forward the plot for white guys. Sure, you know, talk. Do they talk to each other? You talked to each other about something other than the man. Yeah. No, no, no, like like, like, the main female character. Her whole point is that she's trying to find a a guy this guy who has this weird like a magical disease where he can't control his powers, and he just like outbursts and stuff that's her whole situation. And then she. And just to go him. She's taking it upon himself to like fix an unfixable man of violent unfixable man to be his free therapist like fuck number four. And then the other female character is her whole her whole point is that she's in love with a with a muggle she's in love with a non-magical, man. So therefore, she's corrupted by another man because he tells her that she can create a world where she can love him freely. When that's not the case. She's being bamboozled sharp in later. And then there's that's yeah. Got a few different situation. Yeah. And then there's the leader l'estrange character, which is Zoe Kravitz. Very famous. Woman of color. I mean, obviously, her dad's Lenny Kravitz, Christ sake. Then J curling had the absolute unmitigated gall to put her in a movie where her whole narrative is this being in love with two brothers and being a bad girl, and like having sorted past and being ill, astronomy and lake doing all and being pleased legacy of of evil within the magical world, and like trying to tear herself away from this expectation that she's going to be bad, and that she's gonna be like withholding the upholding the pure blood way of life and all of this. Put your whole life is tied to her. Shitty. Father who used the imperious curse on women to have children are whoa. Yeah. Gross. Yeah. So her father was a real fucking piece of worth shit. And I I don't know I feel like maybe Jake is is using this as an opportunity to make the metrical world a bit more adult because we always exists in a child's world in the Harry Potter books, and these people are adults they're like people who work in basically, the government, and peace anti-government, all the people who were into Harry Potter movies. When they came out are now, my age their twenties, thirties and forties. Right. And maybe want more adult it. It's just so clear to me that JK Rollings is now a wealthy white woman from England, and she has no she has no sense of perspective on the violence of clone him, and she doesn't bring in race as a factor in into her international world because I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. God, it's. It. It's lazy storytelling because basically everyone was boring supreme uninteresting what she is. She's create this generation of people who look at the world, with empathy. I think that's kind of what APL possibility and creating characters like her mining who were born without becoming from a magical world, but she became the brightest student like having like she created. Of because of her ability and her character traits, which work. Yeah. Her view her readership in a certain now. She's peddling this bullshit that we can see through tired tro. You'll see you'll see all of the things I'm saying like, this isn't just an indigenous thing or POC thing. Yeah. Whatever it's like just a decent human being will say though, I mean, just as a student of literature, and film, I can see. And again, I do I just love to play devil's out. It's easy to fall in ten. I'm not I'm not apologizing for her whatsoever. But she when she wrote those book, she was writing books for children when she wrote this movie, she's writing a screenplay, which is maybe not her forte. She was writing a screenplay as a rich white British woman for an American audience set in nineteen twenties set in nineteen twenty s four a style of film that is purely visual that those movies are not story. This is not as Chakri. Injure, heavy mood. This is a movie that looks amazing. Be shown in three d and it's going to blow your mind, and it's a marvel movie that happens to be a Harry Potter theme. That's that's the contact. That's the context. So I think you're absolutely right. There's a major missed opportunity to to have done it correctly. But who knows what got cut by the studios who argue about she or whoever whoever had? I mean who knows an apparently there's three more movies. So she has a lot of time to re. And I think that's the thing that I'm not used to is that in the Harry Potter movies. You've got so much information in one move because it was adopting a book. Yes. A whole book. Created on her own terms. She wasn't beholden. But there was no one running the show. It was just her and it turned into this wild success. Yep. So now there are some. Not knowing facts, and we never will. Because it's Hollywood, however, just as purely a film and books are you can't mediums? You can't look at the same character development in a Hollywood blockbuster purely visual shot in three d blow your mind kind of way as you look at the most delightful Najib childhood stories that you've ever read that are still super close to your heart. That's up just devil's advocate. I agree. The agree agree with you said. Because like I needed to suspend belief certain point because there were just shit that. Yeah. Yeah. It says in the book is not possible. Really operating dog words that happens in the movie. And we're getting deep we're getting into the canon macgonagall was suddenly in her late thirties teaching at Hogwarts when she's not even supposed to be born for another eight years when you're was McDonald's venting thirty four say that it says it on the Potter more website. I'm sorry. That's not cannon. I haven't you. She wrote it it's Kenan she's like fucking around with her own shit. Now just to move plot forward. Well, she's moving pot for it. I mean, the time thing with Harry Potter is always been contentious. But again, this isn't a book that was ever gonna be. There was never gonna be a book. This is based on a book that was a book in the book. That's not even real book. It's based on a textbook animal. You know? So I think at a certain point you have to just be like, well, we're done. Shit. This was a missed opportunity to use this as a vehicle to promote these ideals these values that she has purportedly been holding her whole career whole career. And you know, and who knows what gets fucked up in Hollywood. That's the thing. There's so many obstacles, and so many bucking mediocre white men in writing. Exactly, shiny. Well, it makes it really easy for you to hate the villain. That is that's real believable. That's true. Even though that even though this the way that they're creating this villain is kind of like. It's very devil's advocate. It's like it's like he's very good at saying the right thing to really fascinating character in the buck to. Yeah. I would love to read more about his story. Like, it's all on more. I don't I I say give me a book. Other news. Website press compression hopes next year. One brothers is launching a streaming service and one of their original shows is called visiting world. And it's about the Harry Potter universe. Triscuit game show shares and it's going to be completely new characters. Cool. Oh, cool. Get the universe. So in the Harry Potter universe? But it's like other people characters call tech. Maybe it will give her an opportunity to clean up a bit for fucking mess. Yes. And referencing magic. That doesn't come from Europe as less refined and less powerful, which has done. Yes. She said that when she was when at the at the beginning of when she was starting this new university released all of this information about the wizard world America on this website, and she Harare to indigenous peoples was just a modulus. In passing and didn't reference Claudio violence at all didn't reference anything like that. It's just like. Oh, yeah. There was always magic on in North America indigenous peoples, but they were better. Better it can potions and they didn't have ones their for their charms. And spells were not as direct and not as powerful. Because they weren't like concentrated like in a magical object, which is so just bullshit because I mean, she could have done so many whatever the fuck you wanted. But again, I mean, it also could Dev that she's not writing that story. That's not her story to or tell. So how much do you want her to include on a footnote for thing that has nothing to do with the things she's actually doing she's not that expert and maybe the next the next person nation of? Yeah. It'll be better, and it will be more. She's also a British woman from you know, wherever like, she's not sixty or whatever old. She is. She's writing this war in American audience again. So this isn't a thing that she's not going to spend all that time guys. Very high. Maybe with this new TV show. They can do what a lot of shows are doing now and hiring more. Interesting more diverse. Indigenous liaise off or yeah. Attrac- did a great job just copy paste. We're gonna talk about. Yeah. I think. Buying indigenous people in the twilight series. On some violent and primitive. And anyway. Yeah. Let's not. Anyway, I'm saying she wasn't writing that store. She's she's writing the the cannon that she created an. It's better. It doesn't include that other style of magic that exists in North America. This straight up does not exist you in the place that she developed it. So. I get you. There's room for growth -absolutely in in. Maybe it's just like what I would do if I could the world that I wouldn't have it within that world. Yes. Absolutely. And that would be an incredible story. That would be an amazing, right? The fuck make sure of those fans. Or some? Already tweet netter skinned read it. Shot blocked all of the the critics all the native critics bluff. Hi, everyone. Tengible? I'm sure she doesn't even run her own Twitter at this point. Yeah. But that's what I've been thinking about that. POC which is in media and not have them be villains or victims or becoming a mixture of both. Faye? Prevalent and much is the is the witchy staff people are very interested in it. And there's a lot of ways to do it and talk about it. Because it's pretty people have known magic in different ways. Sure. For as long as it's every story from all over the world and some people don't even call it magic. They call it religion or. Or life going to be medicine? This little place called Africa. Have you heard of this? Continental that All Africa. You wanna talk talk about magic. I mean, there's probably shoot an Asia for ten thousand years to do is magic born out of colonialism in violence. Getting me the Caribbean stories the stories right itself history is is an is enough of a of a wealthy knowledge to learn from and and and pull from in writing a story. Well, writing a story where race doesn't come into. It is just irresponsible in this day and age exactly moving on your spot. I'm gonna move my soapbox over to y'all. Segue from the talking about creating. Content with a with a different type of creative power behind it. My session this week is the new Shira. Okay. Bye today. Essentially all women wrote at great wonderful. The writing room was all women. It's an effort. A lot of the directors are women. It's about a bunch of princesses a bunch of women. There's like two dudes three in the whole fucking show. Is human on it. No. But we're waiting for season two. So do you think come back, maybe they're kind of creating their own universe thing? Yeah. Because it was all it was always somebody who was in original Shiro fan from nineteen eighty five. I was sheera. Three halloweens in a row, I was fully in the sheer universe. My brother was he was also into human. But I don't think he was inhuman as much as I was into sheera? How could you be? I am sorry human does not hold fucking Kano the sheera. No, she's bucking radical. Maybe in like, I wouldn't know the maybe in the gay community a horror and no chance she was got the in the flying horse. She's got the wings and the fuck Andrew. Haired and the sewers I'm sorry human can unattainable body tie. But no this toilets the new share. It's totally reimagined. I was watching. I think my my my four year old. It's a little bit too sophisticated for her. Oh, okay. But my eight year old niece for sure. Holy be on board. And after that, I don't know if he's watching it. I'm not sure it would be taken out. But anyway, it was great. It's like, twelve episodes half hour episodes. Not even it's so cool. It's done in kind of like, a, you know, anime sort of style. I remember when I first saw the drawings of Shiro when they were just giving like what she the character would look like those Tuncay today. She's fucking buff. She's got broad shoulders must arms. She's eight feet tall. She wears shorts and boots that are flat. But you can actually like run and like people in I healed swinging your boobs around. Yeah. Like awkwardly could barely like like barely wielding. Sword giant jugs? She's amazing so cool in this new one like all the other women are like. Oh, you are pear shaped you are. You got awesome. Big powerful legs your eight feet tall. You're, you know, you're also half scorpion. You know, we don't Lord, Bo. Score pins, our listeners, we we love each and everyone of you in there. How much of a scorpion? You're and is someone who. Someone who is immediately put off by any sort of romantic plotline. I could not be less interested in any. No, it's being friends and being proud and yourselves to hood kinship. Yes. And also your self worth and what you can do an imposter syndrome and helping each other see past that and pushing goals and believing in yourself and thread, and it looks awesome. Like the like this. The visuals are so cool. I wonder if Lucy my nieces listening awesome is like yet. There's like best friends who hate each other and people hate each other and then become best, friends and. There's like three guys and they're like well one of them's like head of the horde Hornak, which is like the big surprise leader. He's the bad guy. He's got a skeleton. And the cool skeleton like caller thing that he had like skeleton. But like better. Not called skeletal. No sculptures human. Oh, yes. Our era Hornak and skeletal came from Hornak. Got interesting Hornak was the original super villain, anyway, get very deep into the heat, but also like others because Shiro was an offshoot of he man back in the race. He man came first, right? As a thing to push merchandise, right toys R numbers for Saturday morning. And they made a girl version which was painting rainbows unicorns. But they've they've kept the pink in the remote in the unicorns. But also made her back in us, an awesome, and smart, and cool, and doesn't voice who does her voice this place. Somebody someone some young girl who was on like, Disney, here's something. And like, so what's your name AJ Machaca? Oh, really has catra like her BFF turn enemy. AJ TBT. Yes. And then who else like oh shit our names or I don't know who does like lizard at home like Email, the female Bill. They were these Lorraine Toussaint. She's like a famous like African American actress. Okay. Her voice them like oh my God. It's her. She's amazing. Elliott AJ are like those pop stars from the early two thousands on Disney channel that. Definitely played between like during commercial breaks music. Video would play while you're waiting show to start like anyone twenty four to twenty seven will know what I'm talking about. So this is like why Jay's on like why TV y Jay's tide of? Yeah. Okay. But like Popstars. Like on much music or MTV, they'd play music video during the commercial break between programs that was that. She was that day. But it was Amy caro- plays sheera in a bunch of stuff you anyway. She's awesome. One of the the kids from black ish, really the sun. And he's awesome p plays like the sidekick sweet. But he's a dude. Use awesome. And like even like looking at the people there's South Asian women. Black women a Japanese woman, you know, purple prison moved the British accent somebody with an American accent. Like, it's just it's Lauren ash. Who's amazing? She's an actress comedic actress who I really enjoy. She plays the scorpion lady Scorpio because they're real like creative with the names. Anyway schools. Catra? She's part Scorpio. She's part Scorpio or scorpion. Yeah. Anyway, Mista Merman give you one guess where she's from perfume her few hours been there been there anything summer frost out. Anyway, rain. Sandra? Oh shows up. Area excited. I was trying to stay away from the IMDB to figure out the the voices for myself. But it was just like, Sandra. What's happening anyway? Great sheera? I love it Shiro. It's fantastic. And I'm hoping I I'm hoping it's going to be super autho merch that I will buy four quote the children. I wanted Shiro t shirt so badly. Very. This one this one I'm fully converted to this one. Because it just it looks cooler. Sounds cool more. It's more inclusive. It's for twenty real twenty century girls. Yeah. Very excited about it. Which you have to twenty percents girls. It's an important part of. Twenty-first-century girl. Well, my real quick and easy and dirty two weeks ago. I think ever lay my favorite only Taylor still haven't gotten jeans, I know, call out. They did a fifty dollar denim day, which think we talked about and so I got a pair of the marine right now. I've got a pair of the mid rise skinny and black and culling, which is the first time. I've never had to have a pair of jeans before miracle. They're fifty bucks. And so me, and my friend Olivia each got a paradigm shift to my sister-in-law's place in Los Angeles. And she came on. You're probably backlogged in the fuck, and there's backlog because there's a huge there was a huge owner who Saturday right because it was like probably sold out all of our fifty dollars, and it was advertised all over the place, but it's EPS still like it's not or DHL like it's not even like Kim post. Oh, we're just a write in Toronto. Like on Friday. Toronto is derived in Richmond hill on Friday. I've been tracking it so we'll say anyway, I n g love them. They fit me better than any Pershing's. I've ever owned. They I ordered the high rise before because I wanted a nice. Same one is you but high-rise? Yeah. So the high-rise on me is like an inch too high like that part of my buddies is just up. So I was like I try the mid rise. And hopefully, they work as a high-rise and they fit like. Their company and their stretch. I can bike in them. This is I'm gonna get one in every pair. I mean when every color like four or five callers got to to blue three blues, and I got three and a black granite block. Yeah. But they're the best and they're super transparent about their manufacturing. Even the full price. Ones are sixty eight dollars American. Yeah. So yeah. So it was two hundred seventy dollars, gene. Maiden who knows where? No, the only number is getting shift from the states. Which is why it sucks anytime. I there's like a hint of someone going to my place in hell, and my mom really see what they have. Yeah. What did I not get last time that I should get this? With my shopping cart because expensive last time. Yep. So that's it. Everyone genes are the best. I love him. They're even whether or not on sale. They're super good price. And I love Evelyn. That's story. Yes. I think I think are we I think are we done here. Wrap it up. Time is it. It's time to be done time. 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Body Image, Air Fryers, Admissions Scandals and Raising Kids in the Me Movement : An Interview with Entitlemania Author Richard Watts | Selfie  Episode 78

Selfie with Kristen Howerton and Sarah James

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Body Image, Air Fryers, Admissions Scandals and Raising Kids in the Me Movement : An Interview with Entitlemania Author Richard Watts | Selfie Episode 78

"Hey, everyone. I'm Sarah James, a beauty blogger and self help aficionado, and I'm Kristen Howard, tan or writer and psychotherapist. And you're listening to selfie a weekly podcast about two women trying to tackle better self-care. We're both the opinion that self-care is important. And yet we find it elusive. And while we may have all the info we need. We don't always get there from the silly to the serious. We are taking a vulnerable yet. Humorous look at body mind and spirit, and maybe a touch of the random all my looking at the distractions and defenses EPS from carrying. I felt like should all right. Hey, guys, Kristen, and I am here with Claire I raised who is our new biweekly co host Ness by weeklies confusing though despite weakening every other week or twice a month twice a month. Anyway. With us every other week. Yes. So I wanted to do a quick introduction of Claire. She is a licensed aestheticians and AM are a regular listener. You've probably heard her come on and talk about many many procedures the famous DJ chal. Oh, yes. Yes. You may know her from her Vijay visual. I mean, that's almost most people don't. That is as you're at school. Yeah. Yeah. I might the elementary score goes. Yeah. Yes. Oh, oh, the J Shalita. But in addition to that, she also has a company that does home organization, I do she will come in. And Marie condo your house without hi- without shame. You did it to me. We did. I catch a few months ago. We Christian had probably every plastic container known to man, I had many type wears and I, but I think my real area of shame. My real pain point was my spices, your spices in t- addiction of the tea like just so your listeners like you have to dedicated t- doors to drove team. Yes, I do. And I have them in drawers. So that when people come over in say, would you like t I open them with flourish? And I like present the teas, but you're not the only one because this has become a family that rose drink the teas to come to. Yeah. They all drink. Yeah. We're we're a t- drinking family. Why don't do coffee? Did I tell you the story of the tea with my Japanese foreign exchange students. No. No, okay. So I offered them tea. I had four Japanese foreign exchange students for like a week. And I offered them tea opened the door not paying a bit of attention open the drawer, and I walk away and let them choose their teat. I come back to four fully drunk mugs of smooth, which is a laxative T O. And I was like, okay. And then I then I had that sticky like moral dilemma of do I tell them that strength election of tea, or do I just let them find that they have poisoning. I you know, what I did not tell them because they spoke, no English. So they couldn't read the tea wise India could have gone onto Google translate. But that would have been really awkward on sale. And I'm thinking like, do I mind do I mind you're going to have explosive diarrhea do you give them a flat of toilet paper in thumbs of by? Now. His let me tell you this this traditional medicinal, smooth moved t-, which I will link up in the show notes is no Joe it's used it when I was pregnant, and you know, like when you're pregnant goes with the whole creation period. And I wish somebody would have told me how it went suggests it I thought it was going into labor. Yeah. It ended. It will make you feel sick. It makes you feel like you have like the flu it's pretty bad. Welcome to America. Anyway. Sorry boys is lovely for Japanese foreign exchange students for giving you diarrhea on your. Trip to America. I just keep thinking the mental picture of them that the panic. I not or they in the back house. Yes. Oh, kristen. I know I felt so bad. I did I will say in my defense. I have since moved smooth moved out of the drawer. But all of my kids know, it is because they don't want to go to heaven your kids ever had it. No, they're scared. No. But I will say I have one little hypochondriac kid, and I have every medicinal tea possible. So that when she says like my tummy hurts him. We'll take the time ET or my throat hurts their throat. Oh, yeah. Like, actually really good to you know. What's funny? I throw code is my favorite tea. I drink really I drink it every night. I throw it. There's just breathe rescue or something. Like that one that I really liked because I mean, it's like menthol, yes. Yeah. And there's another one called stomach ease. That's also delicious. You know? I have a very grace who's almost twelve. Yes. A little bit anxiety. Yeah. It always goes to the tummy. Travel to look good one for her travels. I mean, I really don't know what it really does for the tummy. I just like that. It's a placebo effect for children. Yes. Annotate good. Yes. So in a way. In a way. Well, Claire catch us up on yourself care. How how I mean we're starting from the beginning. So obviously, my life is going pretty strong. Well, we know we know that that's a strength. But how is self care in the rest of your body? Well, I'll start out. I'm a mom of five kids. Yes. His mind Harz there. Yes. Multi family step multifamily, multiracial multiracial multi tier yrant. Yes. And so self care is definitely something that I need to focus more on. Yeah. Especially when I get to the end of the week, and I'm screaming at my kids. I might need to time out. You did text me last week day. I put myself in a timeout. I texted you and said, I'm so sorry. If you heard my your scream from your house will we should explain Claire, and I are neighbors. Yes, we're like five houses away. Yes. Pretty close. Our children are like siblings than they've by links. Yes. And they go to school together. We've AK shit together. So we're very close. Yes. In as far as self care from. If you Sarah have actually been really great leaders in that because I don't know if I was really aware of self care before the podcast and talking to you guys because I think so many of us think that that's as being selfish. Oh, totally until it's been a journey for me letting go you have that thought. Yeah. In that belief, and realizing that self care for me is really going to benefit the entire family. Yes. Speaking of I just had my very first training session today with a personal trainer. Okay. That's that's a big deal. Huge deal yet. I am allergic to working out. I really hate work. I will make you that worked at once. We did it yet. He were mad at me, I drag you to gym. And you're like, this is horrible. It was horrible. It really was it was like the dark nightclub with Yash extensively overload was and it was one of those where they have you on a circuit. If you're not running you lifting weights. There's no break if they're yelling at you. Other yelling at you. And I just everyone in their seemingly looks like a personal trainer that cost was crazy hot. But. Yes, everyone in there was in their twenties and perfectly fit in we walked in. We were like oh boy. It's spoiler alert. We never went back. Not did not become part of our south courtesy. Well, I I will say I did go for like a week. Did you I did I bought a month pass dummy? And so I was like I'm not doing this. And I like by day six I was like, I'm dreading this the entire day, and it's become such a point of stress and you create worth scenarios excuse yourself from it. Yeah. On the way to the gym today. I was thinking like, well, I was going to be late by two minutes. Well, that's a horrible way to start out. I probably shouldn't go. I just I don't want to be one of the late people. I'm going to miss things. It ended up being really great, the I'm working with a mom, and all my fears. You know? Yeah. Ridiculous. But some more. Mating working on just being active in general. I've reached that sweet spot where I can't just like naughty for three days in lose ten pounds. Right. So I don't eat for three days. I gain ten pounds. Yeah. Oh familiar. Yes. Oh, I'll do intermittent fasting nothing or to Kito. Nothing changed audio some doing it the old fashioned way. Good. That's good. So that everyone else should do it champ at it just is hard. It is hard. There's no like it's two thousand nineteen isn't there a hack for the? On. So that's my journey right now. I'm just staying accountable and honest, we did vote today. How like took my shirt off. Hey, and we'd just the whole midsection. There's just so much. Shame and feelings about this for me. Yeah. That I'm really trying to confront it. Yeah. And not be was about it. Yeah. But you know, we'll check back in a month. We'll see. I mean, I think that you know, what's hard about body image is, you know, we all want to accept the body that we're living in. Yes. But in order to accept the body we're living in we have to look at the body. We're living in you know, what I'm saying. Nantou like, I do think for me. It's like, it's not healthy. If I am completely unaware of what my body, you know, what my weight is what my if I'm just living in denial. That's not for me actually body accepted. Ising the Todd got here. Yeah. I went through about a six month period of just outta sight outta mind wearing literally like, the Baptists, sweat shirts and leggings in. I mean, I ate like anger teenager. Yeah. And I really I I was not countable at all. And those six months, I prop Christian. I probably like thirty five pounds. Yeah. And I'm so used to being able to kind of tighten it up. Right. And it fell off. No. Well, and you would be okay. If it didn't. That's that's the thing. Right. It's like, you know, none of us have to get down to a bikini body or whatever that is. You know, I'm still struggle with that idea. I'm like, oh my gosh. It's April I need to get bikini ready to the quarter ending glowing. I do too. We'll come into your house with a tour. I'm going. It's funny as you remember last summer, we were all a group of us were going on vacation together to Palm Springs and all of his started fretting about our bodies and lick at one point. It's like we're all together every day together. Right. Like like, why can't the five of us sit at a pool and inhabit the bodies were in and whatever state that's in of of, you know, pale nece or flab so much and just be okay with it. Like what is wrong with that? And it really makes you realise as freaked out as I am about what you're going to think about my body. Right. One of my closest friends who care who really cares. But it goes to show. No one's thinking about my body. Now for all all obsessed about our own so true. And I hate that. Like, I feel like at forty three I should be grown out of. And I am a little bit. I will say I'm I'm reaching for some it not at this. I'm not quite there yet. But we've got to get a handle on this too. Because our girls are of the age where this is where it starts with. Them it does. And if I am talking negatively about my body. Yeah. And the food choices whatever it's going to translate into herself talk comp-, just like with my mom. Yeah. I do not talk about my body or my eating with my children ever ever. That's so good ever. I mean, it is it is a non topic. And in fact, my curls. Did once say mom, why does your stomach look that way? I know. And I said, you know, what I said I said, this is just how a lot of moms stomachs look at this is how many people stomach, you know, in the Angevin stubborn animal age Instagram and the age of Facebook. Where all of these people are like I had a baby in six weeks later. You know, now, I think I've chefs they have personal trainer they have doctors who are doing a little nip and tuck in. Yes, Okker, whatever. But also, that's that is a priority to them. And just to be honest. Like, I mean, I want to be I want to be healthy, and I want to exercise for my mental health, but I don't feel need at this age. Stage of my life to have my body looked like a personal trainer spotty it. Absolutely. Just not important to me in that is the shift that I'm in right now, we're going to Austria in. Yeah. And I was sitting down the trainer. I was thinking about my goals. And it kind of the question startled me that because I didn't really know my goal in the past always been to lose weight. Right. And that's more than that. Or any hiking in Austria for hours? Right. I wanna be able to keep up. Yes. And yeah. Feel proud of my strengthen my endurance. Totally. And when I said those words to me also assure her anyway. So that's that's where I'm at with that journey, and hopefully I stick with it. Yeah. And you know, being vulnerable now telling all of you that helped me stay accountable. And if you don't that's okay, it is. Yeah. Because you can always start over. Yeah. You can or you can decide this personal trainer thing is to intense, and I'm just gonna walk. Exactly, you know. I do have a dog out and he walked see do. And with my job. My job is really physical. Yeah. And then people's houses and moving heavy things on my feet a lot. And I could feel the last year I was getting winded. Yeah. So it's it's hopefully, we'll have a trickle down effect into every part of my life. Yeah. So that's my self-care journey. That's awesome. Good for you. Thanks. Well, I as you know, finished my book this week. Yes. We'll let me okay. I didn't finish the I turned in a first draft the bug. And that's, but it does feel like I at least road all the things. And I know there will be heavy edits because you have emerged from the darkness. I was in a dark place. I mean, you know, I didn't see you when probably two months. No. I know. I just went to a birthday party of one of the kids friends in the moms were litter. The moms were literally like we haven't seen you in three months. I think the last thing we did together was jeez party. She. Oh, yeah. That's the last grab, and we are a group of friends that typically would get. Get together at least twice a month. We would I know. No, I'm so I like ready to be back in the game. Because she okay check on her. I feel like it's like the day after I turned in the book. I texted everybody. I'm like avocado toast party emerged. Then you had forty kids at your house swimming. Well, that's always. But it was like, yeah. We all alone for a little bit. We're all scared. Everyone was scared of me. I was scared of myself. Like relief off your shoulders. But you know, what's weird is it didn't feel like a relief. I actually had one of the most anxious weeks I've ever had because you're not used to not having over hanging over. I don't get that. And then I think it was like all the sudden the leg. Okay, turn the sin. And now this thing is going to go out into the world. And I've said some heavy things in the book and the book talks about race Senate talks about divorce than it talks about faith, and it talks about and all the things you've gone through these last few years. Yes, it does adoption and ethics. And there is something to piss off everyone in this book. Here knows stone alternative he's pissed off everybody I will offend if you're conservative. I will offend you. If you are liberal, I will I will offend our friends. This is why. This is why we're run, you know, it's not like a blog post where you can. Then, you know at a comment or explain yourself or deleted. It's or walk it back. Right. Like, it's all going out into the world. And I think I feel some anxiety about that. But I think you're right. I think it was also just that I was on this, you know, hamster wheel, and I got off and I did note to do with myself. What are you gonna do? Now. Right. I know. Well, of course, I had a million tasks waiting for me. That was another thing. I forgot your mom. I'm just kidding. Yeah. Well, like I had put off everything like, and so what I had done is. I was like my book was due April. First. I mean, it's funny because my friend Jen hat maker had her book do the day before mine, and should we both did the same thing. Which was we told everybody in our life everything can happen after April first so the week of April. I was just a nightmare of like appointment said over scheduled. Oh, my gosh interviews, and you've never do never do that. So no, it was a weird rare thing that I over scheduled myself so strange anyway, yes, I'm. Glad to have that let least like Boca that done in we waiting. I made the ad people are dying to read this book. Well, I'm dying for has been a lot going on you the last year people are dying to get their hands on this me included. Yeah. Well, and that's the other thing is like like, okay. I wrote some really personal stuff am I gonna like keep that? It's not going to be published yet. So maybe during the yeah, I'll have I'll get second set of eyes on it. Everything's coin. Even looking at this thing for however long, right? You need somebody else. Probably look at it. I do. Yes. Anyway. All right. Well, what are you bringing up for two thumbs up today? What do you recommend? So I have twelve year old daughter is just lovely but obsessed with skin care have not ever. She gets it from who may be my daughter. Your daughter is like next level. Well, what's funny is my daughter gets from Sarah, James. Yes. Because she follows Sarah on Instagram wants to be Sarah. And like, I mean who doesn't want to be right? Okay. Yeah. And India has full like masking routine. She's super. Yeah. It's yes. Her skin looks great grays isn't quite there yet. Yeah. Grace is athlete. Yeah. It was just a sweaty mass most of the time and she we only started with face wash. Nice and the product amount of talk about which is the how is spelled his name or miss as named. Mario badescu. Yes. Adesco rose sprang. I love the rosewater, and then we're moisturizing. So we're really kind of just going in slow. Yeah. But this row spray is fantastic. Yeah. I love it. I love he loves it. Yeah. Sam my son who he would die emitting. He loves it. And they have a bunch of different kinds. They do. So there is the rosewater which is just the plane, and I believe there's an aloe. Huber? There's. Cucumber and then on lavender one, and they saw him in a great little set night was telling Kristen before our girls have a lot of friends and birthday parties can get expensive. You're buying gifts for, you know, three four kids sometimes in a month, and they have a set of the three when I do they break them up, and I'll will usually have tied up in a little bag with a lip balm or some other kind of gray gift tween type thing. Yeah. And it just like, I'm the cool. Mom, right. Totally an is it accurate to my car to and just like it's where I walk into work or freshen up. It's a great makeup setting spray to. Yeah. And you can get anywhere Amazon. You see the anthropology I've seen it at CVS too. It's everywhere. Yeah. So I'm really loving that. Yes. I love that stuff. And my second one, which this is funny because I do not have a green thumb, I kill everything. Our house is only succulents. Yes. But I have been having some serious envy for these Instagram girls with their fiddle leaf tree. Yes. So I got one they are everywhere on Instagram everywhere. And they're so cute. And like, of course, I couldn't just stop there. I had to get like the complete cylinder cold white. Matt pot. Of course was like the mid century beyond. Yes. I love those Smith or tree shoot. They're very temperamental. Yeah. The first one I bought from Home Depot nine the neck Limbaugh from Costco, died third one a half, which is less mature Trie. Okay. I got from Amazon and she's going strong. Okay. We'll yeah. There don't you have to like they can take half sun, but not all day in you have to speak with words about formation. Am like make sure that it's not, you know in full. It's like it can be in Africa the word. It's not all sun. It's partial Shane. Yeah. Partial shade most of the day, and you know, most people's houses the light changes. I'm yeah. So if you're not there holding the have your cash I'm committed though. Okay. So it's it's small right now. Yeah. But I've had it now for the last month in it's alive. Yeah. That that's a big deal that doesn't aerobic deal. Yeah. I don't know. How all of these people keep all of these perfect plants in their house. I'm starting to think they're saying they might be they must be will you could you could Paul fig tree for Instagram. Yeah. I was really trying to like, no, you're gonna do you real? Yeah. We'll we'll we'll see a high between like trying to keep myself accountable personal training in this tree. I mean, I don't know if I can do both. It's a lettuce. It's a lettuce. Dog. So I have a dog who loves the street. Oh, but I don't know what that means yet. Now, he's really interested in it. It's always like around it. But it's so cute. It really is so cute I need to come. And I'm thinking that I might become a plant lady. Maybe you will. I'm pretty see. We'll see. All right. Well, my first thumbs up which I have gone on non about on my own personal Instagram is my air fryer. I finally went an air fryer. I you know, I will say I have a lot of utensils cooking utensils have the rice cooker, and I have the insta- pot in the crock pot. And so I was like do I need another. But I think they are big might really have to decide if it's something that you're gonna use a lot minus huge. I love it. And I have used it everyday since I bought it. Are you gonna do next all from different? I don't know. I will probably starve. Okay. So the air fire was amazing about it is you can pop like chicken in there for fifteen minutes and come back, perfectly cooked chicken. You can pop a Turkey burger in there for fifteen. Wait like Rajasthan. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Raw chicken from raw to like perfectly. Like almost it tastes like grilled chicken. Because the air is coming at it from. All different directions. Like what Chris doesn't know as I'm gonna break in her house next week when she's gone just like air, fry everybody should take it just take it one. God used that. He did fries in there. And that's French fries. Are amazing vegetables. Yes. I did the root vegetables from trader Joe's like the frozen. You can take frozen like frozen French fries. You get at the grocery store that if you bake yourself come out. Okay. Like five of them will be good, right? They come out perfect to the point where I did these waffle fries from store in the kids were convinced that I had gone to Chick-fil-A they're convinced. What about like tater tots? Oh, yeah. I'm sure I haven't tried tater tots yet of green beans amazing in their latest amazing and crispy when they come out. Yes. And so what I'll do what's been great for me. The reason I'm using it so much just it's perfect for a single lunch. So if I'm here by myself, right? I put a Turkey burger in there. Put some green beans in there. I closed the lead I walk away. That's huge huge. Because when you are by yourself during the day, and you want the need on. I make a big meal in the best know, exactly. Yeah. I am really in love with this thing. And it's a doorbell. It's well, yes, I did buy a Lincoln in the show notes in on our selfie Facebook community, but it's teal blue in. I don't know if anyone's senior kitchen, but like it matches your kitchen perfectly. Well, I have been buying teal blue as appliances, he is working. Because now, I think if you're I think that's like, you're totally. Oh my gosh. So that's one that's one of my two thumbs up. My other is the art of sport deodorant. So I have been on natural deterrent journey. I know you have been to. Yes. And I hope you introduce this to me because you did I think it was a Facebook live. I did ago were you laid it all out. Oh my gosh. She had all every one of them. And for me for my own personal favorite is the Schmitz charcoal. But my boys I've been trying to get them on the natural thing. And they're convinced they don't work, and then I have. My ex convinced they don't work. So he's like all your mom in the natural deodorant, you guys stink and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no way. What the reason you staying is you don't wash or apply the Jeter end because you actually have to put the Ryland for work. So I don't really want to hear about how it doesn't work. When it looks like you've never used it. So for Christmas in their stockings. The art of sport is a natural deodorant with no marketing about it being natural sit is really minimum free, which is you know, the bad ingredient. And the marketing is very sport. See it's very kind of axe body spray. It is. So I put it in their stockings. And I didn't say a word about being natural. And there were we love this because I don't know some sports people that they like are like schilling it. Yes. Which of course, I don't know the name of any sports people. But they're very recognize the guy with the ball. Yeah. That one guy in the that when really famous guy. And so I didn't say anything in like a couple of months go by illegal. How are you liking the art of sport deodorant under like, it's amazing? We love it. And I asked her a trolling your kid my best it's natural. We hate LA. And they were like what? So anyway, it is if you have teen boys or it's great. It's great for adults to I will say the sensor a bit masculine. I wouldn't wear the myself, but for hubby for for boys art of sport is really a good. And I looked at it. And I I would have never known that. It was natural. Just get so used to like, you know, green packaging, totally and it really you'd have no idea. No, no idea. All right. Well, we are going to take a quick break to talk about a sponsor. And then we're gonna come back with this fascinating interview with Richard watts about entitlement and kids he is the author of book called entitle mania in. It is very fascinating. We have a great discussion. But first Buffy, but he makes comforters that are better for people and the plan. It they use skin friendly eucalyptus fabric, which is so soft and it's naturally soothing for the skin, but get this. The fill is made from one hundred percent recycled water bottles, BPA, free water bottles, there transformed and given a second life as this soft fluffy, fiber, it's crazy soft. 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Chatting with us about this concept of drone parenting, entitlement with our kids, and we're going to actually probably talk a little bit about money, and wealth, and how that affects both our kids and our own sanity in self care, Richard. I know that this is a bit of a passion project for you. How did you fall into talking about this kind of entitlement generation thing? My my day job is as a lawyer. I I've been practicing for thirty seven years and part of what I do is. I manage of the super wealthy in in the world, the their families that have so many things going on some of them second third and fourth generation wealth, and I'm talking very extreme wealth. And I've been that guy that's hand to try to make them rational. Right. And keep them from floating off into space when they decide to dump fifty million dollars on their kids understanding, helping them understand how perilous that can be right. And some listen and some don't and so over a period of all of these years, I've had this ongoing everyday laboratory going, right and not as a psychologist, but probably more hands on because I've been recording and seeing what's happened until you really begin to understand the perils the real real perils of well, not just something that you'd say that sounds cliche. But something that you really begin to understand the mental change in people when they win the lotto. I know that I know that I know what that looks like. And and so that affects children and the children is the next step. And so part of the first book fables, a fortune was this idea of children of entitlement. That's another negative of wealth is the children of entitlement. And as I began to look into that and start to write about that. Which then culminated in the writing of entitle mania. It was evident to me that this was not a problem for the wealthy. Now. This is a problem for all of us as it really is. It's interesting. I'm fascinated with your experiences working with the very wealthy because I did a stint. I my background is therapist. And I worked for a bit in a very high end rehab treatment center, and what one thing I noticed without fail is the the kids who struggled the most with addiction and with. Really dove deep into heroin use and not functioning at all were the kids who had been given so much money that they didn't have to work, and then they didn't have any purpose in life gifts. And that was something we saw over and over, and if they left the rehab, and they still had, you know, a huge expendable income, and they didn't have to go and get a job and figure out how to be industrious and find that purpose in their lives. And they could just go back home and still sit around and live off of that money, the rescinded recidivism rates for those kids were so much higher than the kids who left in had to go figure out live. You know, there is something to there's I think real exit existential stress to having too much money at a young age question. Yeah. But, but here's the thing that that has to be really made clear is that, you know, the parents wanna put a lot of blame on kids for getting drugged out. Kids for being lost kids for not being able to find their way in kits don't become entitled on their own right? It's a process of parents that are trying to remove the struggle from their kids and to make their pathway easy. And that's where the word drone parenting is actually about drown parenting. What is your own parents? So so I've grown up in a world of what we called helicopter parenting. Yeah. And helicopter parenting. Was this loud bunch of parents that just decided they wanted to be buddies with their kids. And so they hovered around all the time. They wanted to be they were kind of innocuous, but they wanted to be at the dances. Yeah. They wanted to be in the booster club. And they wanted to be on the sideline selling doughnuts in everything. They could be involved in they wanted to be around their kids, but they really weren't manipulating their kids. They weren't doing anything strategic. They just were hanging out. It's kind of annoying. Yeah. Helicopter. Parents were annoying. They were annoying that I don't think that, you know. But it sent a bunch of kids into therapy. It's a really good point. Yeah. That's a really good point. And so now, it just came to me number of years ago that the parents now I've had as I've lectured around the country when I've had parents come and say, well, what's wrong with the fact that we have our child at three years old beginning to learn lacrosse because we know it's a good feeder to the Ivy league schools when they go to school in fifteen years. Don't we is it a good thing that we're helping our child get ahead. And I said who decided your child liked lacrosse, I who made that decision and they go, oh, it's just a good all-round sport. What Karm can come from it? And so the drone parenting came from the concept for me, it was really military drone. It was the idea that we send drones ahead and drones can fly. Stealth thrones are always on a mission. Drones are looking with a purpose to clear the pathway for what's to come. And so here. Mama and daddy drone. And they're basically saying, okay. Look at my child can't see fifteen years into the future. So I know what that looks like. So I'm going to begin to manipulate right? The pathway, and I'm going to be strategic about it. I'm going to be stealth about it. And in fact, I might not even tell him or her, right? And I'm doing it because kids kinda don't know what's happening to them. They're kind of looking for mom and dad to be the ones that help initiate both, you know, difficulties initiate solutions out of difficulties, but they they will allow you to to help them in assist them or they'll allow you to fix it. Right, and what parents began to become obsessed with and I believe it was a hijacking. That's occurred with parents of their kids careers. Yeah. Other kids futures is they just decided with the best of intentions. That's the hard part. It's the best of intentions. Is they decided that it would really be a better thing to clear the path of all struggle. Right. Give them participation trophy. So they never feel. They lost. Let them never feel loss. Right. Never let them feel failure. Yeah. Let's just because if we can just somehow focus on success, they will get there faster. Right. And what the parents are forgetting that is in giving the kids everything they didn't have. They're forgetting to give the kids the things they did have. Yeah. In the things that the parents did have they had failures. They had heart heartbreaks. They had set back. Yeah. They had all of these things and the drone parenting syndrome to me is about I hear the just last week. I heard him called snowplow parents for the first time I like drones better because I think they can fly a lot faster. Yeah. Snowplow parents are just big and cumbersome. But today's parents it evidenced by this academic scandal. That's going on is. Then went go example. Yeah, they will go to such lengths, and they become they they the parents become so lost and their mission. Yeah. To heal and to to help their their children succeed on it seems like in many of these cases will first of all in the academic scandal. For example, like it seems like Lori Laughlin children didn't even know she did it on their behalf. You know? So to your point there, stealth, right? Yeah. And I don't know that Lori would have wanted them to know. Right because then they become a possible snitch. Yeah. Accidental talker about what happened, and if you're going to do something that's crossing the line, the fewer people, including the victim right child, the better. Well, I think I think that, but I think also to your point about letting letting like kind of preserving kids from struggle. I don't think she wanted her daughters to know, they couldn't get an on their own merit. Of course, you know. I think she didn't even want them to have that little struggle right of accepting the fact that maybe you're you're record did not entitle you to getting into the school will. And if you think too that on a real macro scale here. I just I just ached to be honest with you for that whole situation because I know that that daughter who is kind of an airhead. Anyway, you know, she gets up and says I really want to be here. I just like the partying and likely stumping, I'm a blogger. And and now I'm gonna sue my mom because she. Destroying my blogging Kaluka rant and all that kind of stuff. You know? I really do believe that that she's going to realize what it is to live with shame not just for herself. But for her mom, it's people are not gonna let her forget that for a long time. But here's the strange part. If she doesn't become, you know, mentally upset as a result of this the daughter, this may actually be the beginning of her own maturity, this crash, the struggle, this horrible thing that faces her this mountain maybe ten or fifteen years from now will make her wake up and say, wow, now, you understand mom did this out of love. But she really screwed me. Right. And I've rebounded now. And it took me years, and I still got this. Shame follow me around. But I'm a different person in when I look back at who. I was when I went into college, and how mom kept me from being who I should be. If I got if. I really got hammered few times in terms of guilt and failure and things and stuff. I would have been a different person quicker. Yeah. But here I am now at forty five or fifty years old. And I think that you know, maybe the beginning of her maturity as well. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. I mean, I think when we rob our our kids of struggle and failure and defeat, you know, then they walk into adulthood, ill-equipped and life is full of failure defeat. Ryan and hardships. It really is. You know, and I think if if we don't learn to deal with those hardships and disappointments in our teen and young adult years, you know, then we walk into adulthood sort of feeling victim to the world. Right has we we don't understand that the world is Paul, and you can understand with the suicide rates up there on the drug use up the way, it is sure, you know, when when when you see a child that turns into a young adult, and they have had the they've had the various different kinds of. Facets carved into their system like a statue, you know, where they've been defined and they've been defined by all these things, and they kinda they go one way, and they say that was horrible. But I'll never do that. Again. We'll there's something very reassuring to your own personality when you know. Yeah. That you will never eat broccoli again. I'm being facetious. But I'll never every broccoli that defines me. And when I tell you that I absolutely have a complete love for cappuccinos. You know that also is something that defines me. So, you know, maybe my world is sitting in a little pizza in Italy and having some little three dollar thing of cappuccino. But that's something. I know that I love and all of those things came from having to test myself and to create self value for me, absolutely. By facing struggles. That that define for me who I really was. And a lot of these kids I think that get to be eighteen twenty twenty two mom and dad have been telling them they've been giving them the Kool aid for so long. That they just go will. Okay. You know, I've never really felt bad. But I'm not getting the job. I wanted in my gosh. This job doesn't feel good. And raising kids doesn't feel good. And I thought this was all supposed to feel good. And yet by the time, you're twenty five you need to have realized through the struggles in your life that much of life doesn't feel good. Yeah. And it's not every day. You get to feel good. It's once in a while you get to feel good. But it's really worth it. If once a week in an hour, you get to sit back, and you get tears in your eyes because you realize this is really pretty special. Yeah. What I've got. I may not have everything, but what I've got a special. You can't get that by debating being given everything isn't it ironic, though, in it's so true that you really you don't have a sense of gratitude when you've got everything right now, I think that a lot of my gratitude in life has come from loss. Yes. Recognizing. What I have to be grateful for some of the most ungrateful students I've ever worked with where the kids who had everything right right now. But it's kind of really a lot of people wanna press on them. And I think that there's a sadness to me to that. Because here's this beautiful child. Right. That heaven been given the right to play tennis instead of across no agency yet. Yeah. I think they would have been agents of their own uplift yet, and they would have wound up being people that you'd look at and go. Wow. How did they get there? Yeah. That's really remarkable out of they find out, and I'm being facetious that they love collecting butterflies small of the world. I think who in the right mind would do that. But you know, there's conventions people that are into butterflies conventions that are people to collect salt shaker inspector shakers. And I don't care what their passion is. It's like what why not let them find that. Here's a really great story of of a client of mine that was so ashamed of their daughter and she couldn't do well in highschool. And they kept pressing her to college. We're going to get you to go. No matter what no matter what she said. I like doing hair, and they said, that's a disgusting thing. That's nothing. That's low blow budget stuff. You shouldn't be doing that. She says, but I love it. I love it. Well, they said you're not going to do that. So she rebelled and through her fifteen sixteen seventeen year old years, she was persona non grata in the family, then she came home with a couple of tattoos, which was the end. So an eighteen mom and dad dumped her in a college and said you get one year if you don't make it then you're out. We're not supporting you, you're done wolves after six months you dropped out and she left her Beverly Hills. And she literally said mom and dad who were rich will you pay for my cosmetology school? They said, no, that's not what we want you to do and she did on her own, and she came home and start coming home with a hair purple and yellow and pink missing six years ago. And then all of a sudden she got discovered by a few movie stars. And they realized how much talent she had. So now she's going over and hanging out with these famous people that want them hurt. Her hair. Just right. And then she started bringing them home to barbecues on down in Laguna down on the weekends. And in walks daughter now twenty four years old with her hair in fifteen she's got piercings everywhere, and mom and dad's your walk in with two of the most famous movie stars you'd ever want to speak of and they kind of look at all our friends go. That's my daughter right there. That's my daughter and look at that. And we look at look how proud we are. And I think to myself why not start with that. I know I not be proud when she chooses to go into something that she feels passionate about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's that is a really sad story. Yeah. But a wonderful story. Yeah. Because ultimately now, she's kind of shown mom and dad. Yeah. That your way was not my way. And I think that that may be that's something that I'm beginning to realize even in the last couple of weeks is that there's no con- counterculture in this generation, my generation had a counterculture that said, mom and dad, screw you. Right. We're outta here. This is a were hippies. We're leaving Robin barefoot. We're having free this, and we're not we're dropping out of everything in through that process. We learned the depths like an like an a an addict, you learn the depths of who you are. Right. And after a while, you get a, you know, what doing drugs all day long. It really doesn't work. Yeah. You know, heaven no job and not eating really doesn't work. Dan of yet doesn't not a great model. Yeah. And all of a sudden you saw the hippies turned into yuppies young urban professional back into suits and ties moms dads. We're going shame on you for being back your after. Well, we found out it didn't work shore. But we needed to object we needed to move away from and yet, I think in right now in this world that my generation, and I apologize for this. My generation has usurped and hijacked the control over personalities at such a young age. Yeah. That we're not really giving them the chance to object. They kind of don't they think of Jackson. Failure. Yeah. If I drop out then I'm failing. Yeah. In mind world, dropping out was a sign of like much. It's like a sign of you know, what I'm standing on my own prince chance here, we're going to go burn a couple of flags to which was horrible. I would really be angry now to see someone do that really object to I ended that. But I mean, my generation did it. Yes. So that's all the discovery process that we look for that strengthens people in in parents today need to recognize that that that all of these struggles getting place getting Ascione and exam being bullied a little bit here. And there all of these things are are really opportunities to begin to utilize those as iron sharpening iron where you can literally use those as a tool and say, look it. I remember my dad saying his all time Richard figure it out. Yeah. Wait a minute. He punched me in the face. I need a lawsuit against the principal and everybody know just go figure it out and eventually. I realized that going up to a guy bigger than me and calling him some bad. Name was probably not a good way to avoid getting my face punch. And so you learn from stuff, and you learn to be respectful from stuff like that. But I really respect the fact that some parents are willing it's very tough to allow that struggled to come into their lives and just be affirming. Now, I remember my dad's number one thing he said to me, and he's been gone twenty five years. And I hear him always saying the cream always rises to the top. So as long as you know, who you are. And you're the cream you may feel like you failed here, but eventually may continue to rise. And that was a very affirming thing that stayed with me for a long long time. And so in the depths of my failures, I always know that there's a place to go to REBA. That's good. Yeah. And I think, you know, something else that comes to mind in this whole thing is I feel like my generation of parents has this emphasis on college, which is well meant, you know. I mean, sure we all wanna see more kids go to college. But I think it sets up the standard that colleges really the only way that you can succeed when there's so many great trade schools in the cosmetology is a great example. And I do think that some students will find that. They're not interested in college on or the aptitude isn't there? And I think it's important for us to also encourage alternative pats. You know that not every kid is going to play lacrosse good at USC right because they don't want to or because they don't have the aptitude or because the passion isn't there? And it's like, I think parents get really fixed on this is the one path excess right agree. The only way the metaphor that I used for that. And it's apple in the west coast is a riptide. Yeah. We have on the coast riptide and a lot of people in the east don't know about that. But a riptide is something that it's an anomaly where the the water is pulling you away from the beach, and the one thing they tell you to do is in a riptide don't swim directly to the beach because you'll exhaust you're so right? Well, in your comment that you just made parents have kind of taken become members of this academic cult yet were they're telling their kids the only way to the beach is. Through that riptide. And I know many of you are not gonna make it. You know, we gotta get any yield. There's only four percent acceptance qualified applications, you're probably maybe maybe not gonna make it. But by God, if you don't you're not gonna you're not gonna reach the beach, and what anybody knows about a riptide. And what kids you watch them beating each other up trying to get through this tied? Like I got to win. I got a win and one by one they're dropping off because they can't sustain it kids are hurting themselves because they can't sustain it. And in everyone knows that in a riptide what they cancel you to do is stop swimming allow yourself to drift away from this ridiculous. Current down the beach a hundred yards and then find that there's a lot of different ways to access the beach than through riptide. So here we are with as you said parents, directing our kids at this is the way and with the best of intention. Yeah. They really truly are doing. But what I don't think they're realizing is that our mission as a parent is to be a parent not to gain. Something for ourselves not to gain recognition for ourselves. But to help them realize the tough lessons of life, and what I've said to my kids since there about eighteen years old is I've in the hate me saying this as I say, you know, your dad's not always going to be your dad, just shut don't you're you're young, and this then, you know, a long time ago this fifteen years ago, and and I said, no, I'm I'm not always going to be here in I need to quip. You totally as best. I can because the thing that will make me the happiest is that when I'm gone that you have this toolbag around your waist of life skills, and that you can pull one of those out because you've encountered it before and the greatest disservice. I could do for us if I didn't prepare you. And all of a sudden, you got to be without dad, and you have something horrific happened in your life. And I don't know how you how you get through it. And I don't wanna be responsible for that. And I don't think parents are thinking like that right now. Now, I don't think they are. I think they're, you know, I think I think. Want their kids to do? Well. But I think they have maybe a narrow view of what doing well looks like yes may not always be with the child in mind. You know, I mean, I feel like if you already have a plan for what you think your child will do for a living when they're under fourteen or fifteen probably misguided, and I'll say something else too that I get a little little pushback on. But I truly believe it, you know, one of the symptoms. I think of entitled mania is win. Parents. Utilized this concept of my child's my best friend. Yeah. I think it's really dangerous ground. You know, it's it's it's unfair because you have superior knowledge or your child, and they should go. Find best friends that are their peers, hopefully because they can relate to each other. And they don't give each other the answers they struggle through the questions and they come up with an answer. Right. As your quote, unquote, best friend where you wanna just all be together. All the time. You're kind of robbing your child of that search. Yeah. I think you know that. And then what I also. Oh, see. I mean, this was evidenced in. There was a scandal here in our own school system of, you know, a group of kids having a big party beer pong swastika in the shape of a swastika not made the national news. But you know, the the kind of racist imagery aside, the reality is a group of parents through a drinking party for their young kid right for their fifteen sixteen year old kids. They threw a drinking party. Yes. Think this is another example of parents entitling their kids of just like I won't let you struggle. But at the same time all all provide you I it's so important to me that you're popular in cool. That outbreak the law all, you know, go against conventional wisdom just to make sure that you're partying in cool. And you know, they're in the mix with everyone else. Yes. You know? It's interesting I checked myself into and I don't tell people this a lot better go about four or five years ago. First of all, I don't drink, and I don't do drugs. Eggs, but I checked myself into Betty Ford. Really? Why would I do that? And the reason I did it was there's a volunteer side of the Betty Ford where you've got the inmates, and then you've got all the parents of the inmates. And I wanted to be with the parents and I wanted to understand how drug addiction was like parenting. Yeah. And so I spent a week sequestered with thirty parents who had inmates, and I got to go all day long, lectures about how really and truly the biggest problem with drug. Addicts is the parents yet the co-dependency and the enabling of the parents, and what they do for those parents is they they teach them during that period. How to not be codependent and how the let their child alone and let them find the bottom on their own. Instead of always rescuing them right before they reach bottom. And I was there seven days. I went to my gosh, I went to like twenty Al anon meetings. And I'm with all these people in it was the most enrich I really felt like I'd done something very special. I paid to go do that. Signing. I had to pay was expensive is if you're got a problem here inside, but I really began to realize that maybe the gateway drug. To addiction to alcoholism is more poor parenting than it is other types of drugs. In other words in the beginning. If you start rescuing your children from things that they would learn hey, that doesn't feel good. That's not a good thing. This is not a good. That's not a good you begin to say, okay. To my peer you're going. Go. Do you're gonna drink a whole bunch alcohol. I'm not gonna do that. And the reason I am is because one time I did it my parents an I vomited my guts out and my parents didn't throw me into rehab. They sat with me in a firm me and told me this is the consequence of what happens when you do this. And so you begin to take ownership a little more of your life. And I think that you know, these steps that go all the way through drug addiction, and even to suicide, and this is a really hard thing to say, but you know, it's parents responsibility to toughen up their kids and have them understand the perils. And if you completely take out. The perils in the struggle and everything else as they did at Betty Ford. You know, these parents were like running around grabbing all the bottles in grabbing the needles and throwing them away thinking, oh came alive cured the problem, and they spent most of their time saying to the kid you're a bad kit. You should get a life, and that's not ever landing anywhere with the kids, and you know, that from your experience, but it was just an interesting dedication of time to realize that that as parents, we start very very early with problems that the right child becomes an addiction right and to the right child meaning in a wrong way. But the, but the the the the type of child that qualifies for the dozen have the self-esteem. They get it all kinds of drug use. Well, yeah. Because I mean, people the people that are most susceptible to drug use. Obviously, there's a biological component yet free disposition. Yes. But at the end of the day drug use is about a win to pain and an inability to walk through life Spain, ROY. And so when we don't prepare our kids to know how to walk through pain and right through struggle. Then they are gonna walk into adulthood, having no tools in their toolbox. And okay, we'll drinking looks like a good tool or in everybody else doing it? And no one saying, it's a bad thing. Right. And it's kind of a cool thing. Yeah. And then you find you know, that that becomes the kid with that predisposition who who can't drink like their college. Peers who run leave it to just the weekends or just the parties. Right. And then they're waking up to drink because they're in pain at a don't know how to deal with that role. And you might have one child that is really actively challenged. Yeah. Who starts drinking versus a kid. That's a straight a student at start drinking, and he continued to get accolades. He continues to play football and doing whatever it is. And the other kid that doesn't have the tools continues to feel failure. And now he's got a crutch now, he's got something to take him out of any future effort where that guy with the sees might have been the best mechanic might have owned a machine shop and some of my favorite people in my life. Growing up seriously were people that were technically oriented people and weren't Saddam on academe ick because academic sometimes kind of follow the trend of everybody else's thinking. Yeah, it's funny. I was having a conversation with a friend. Jess last night about the fact that he and two of his close friends dropped out of college. And they're all three very successful as adults. Yes, they found a different path. Yep. N had conviction about the path because they made the move to drop out. Sometimes when you say, I'm gonna quit. Yeah. And I'm going to go do this. Yeah. There's a conviction about succeeding at what you now want to do if. If you tell me to go do it. I don't have any convention, right? You know, I don't ever conviction. All I wanted to share something with you to just in this. This is sad. But I'm grabbing my phone in. There is a as I was coming over here to give you this lecture is a very good friend of mine. Bob Woodson who runs Woodson center in Washington DC and really wonderful gentleman. He sent me a text that said one of his closest friends daughters hung herself last night in their basement in Virginia you'll hear about this on the news just happen in again. Here's this family. The older daughter was in medical school found her younger sister twenty six years old. And you really just you just wonder how in the world couldn't get to that place. Would she mentally deranged? The answer's no now, you know, this is a girl that just got to a place where she had nowhere to go. She didn't have she didn't understand that. She had never built a staircase. So she didn't know what steps to take in what direction everything looked like a slippery slope. Lied to her because she had never chiseled a staircase of her own self value. And those are the kind of things that we really I mean, that's just this born that's fresh an hour ago. Two minutes in these kind of things happen. I hear about all the time. And it's not that I want anyone to focus on that horrible end. But you know, you have to kind of keep the possibilities in mind to give you the incentive to duct tape your mouth and your body to a chair and let your kids just feel their life once in a while. Yeah. And I think you know, I do think that every parent has to be very aware of suicidality because the rates are high. Now every parent has to be very aware of drug addiction because the rates are very high right now. And really that's where we need to be doing our research not on how to get our kid into the best school. Exactly, they get the sport scholarship. I think when all that is fine. If you if you have the time in your child has a passion, but I think we really. Need to be educating ourselves on the psychological components of co-dependency. And how to equip our kids to be strong. You know, emotionally strong human being that's our number one goal. And then trying to get them to go to our college twice can be you know. Yes, that can be a bonus, right? I have one last question for you. Which is a good bit of a doozy. But. His I'm sure you can spend an hour on this. But what are some of the boundaries that you think that parents should put in place to avoid this entitled mania thing? Okay. So so I don't know if boundaries if if there if the answer to that is a boundary than it would be a boundary that the parent is imposing on themselves. Not abound Ray on the children. I really do believe within within reason your kids are capable of doing what they need to do. And they're they're going to react to the natural consequences of what happens I've actually had. Both of my sons who are both got postgraduate degrees have been in jail at one point or another where they got arrested for drinking or got arrested for doing something. And you know, I let them sit like overnight. And now you get a parenting issue, right because mom and dad say you'll go get him out. I mean, they're really good kids, and I go now they need to remember what this looks handwrite Mike kids the same thin. So it's rare arrested you will sit there. Yeah. It's good for the night. And whatever. Happens happens. But I think probably the tooth causes of entitle mania are giving too much in taking away the struggle. Those are the two things and so the boundaries have to be related to those in the boundary with regard to giving too much is really about practicing not having apparent needs to model. What it is. They're trying to teach. So part of my world for my kids has been always rejecting some of the things I could have and I do it verbally where I go. You know, Dan, really could get a new car right now. But you know, it's just not good to always have the newest to the newest Inonu's. So I'm not going to do that and verbalised that and I've done that my whole life, and you know, we could go out and get more furniture because we can afford it. Now, we can put it on credit or all these things that people do we're not going to do that. Because we really think that it's not a necessary. We're going to show the maturity and the teaching moment that not having. Yeah. Is a good thing. Some of the richest guys in history have been really good at that. The you know, the Sam Walton's the world driving the the twenty year old Nissan, right? The ad that some truck and all that kind of stuff. So I think on the on the giving too much it's really about modeling the proper behavior. That's abound. Dri that says do not always give in to everything that you weren't. And the second thing, which is the struggle the boundary. Really there is to begin to recognize that these opportunities that are coming your kids in the way of failure. Our our opportunities in obser- in places where they can grow and you need to stand back as hard as it is. And you need to not engage your process, which means I'm going to go to the teacher and complain. You know, I'm not maybe go to the teacher. I I really do believe you should go to the teachers nowadays in say look at you know, I'm not sure I'm doing everything, right? Is apparent. You're the teacher. What is it? I could do better. My sister was. Teacher for thirty years in win. When a parent finance or that near thirty. She cried so hard in front of the parent that she couldn't answer. She said everyone's telling me that I'm not doing this. And I'm not my kids have bad manners that your fault. The teacher might kids aren't learning natural. And it was really about behavior in about the parents and the parents expectations in you know, that that in this taking away the struggle. We need to realize that teachers aren't at fault for all of the stuff. They have it's not always someone else's fault. That your kids not doing as well as you think they ought to do. So the second part of taking away the struggle really would be more about just allowing those effects to occur to your kids, and realizing that it's a you're putting away for a future that's going to make your child stronger, and in that process, and this is another dynamic for taking away. The struggle is share your fears and share your failures with your kids sell that tell them. What? Mommy, didn't do really well on this deal. You know? I remember when I was doing this thing, I really did lousy. I hope you do better at math than I did. Because because parents are going on I'll lie about that. Because I want my kid to think math is an absolute gotta do. But I think it's comforting once in a while when my dad would say to me, you know, rich you do this better than I do. I never did this too. Well, as like, wow. That made me proud, and that's really what I'm trying to instill in my kids is just self sufficiency self value and self pride and they need to earn that on their own. So that well, Richard Wareham people find entitled maniac entitled is everywhere. So, you know, Amazon Barnes and noble, and if you entitled mania dot com is one of my websites, and that has you can buy their through Amazon. But it's got a lot of the articles that I write. And I think there's a lot more information there. There's a hundred or so articles I've written for periodical, magazines and things, and I just think you can kind of lead through there and get some information and. And I'm always happy to connect. If somebody's interested in the question or something. Well, thank you, so mad. Very welcome. Good. Thank you for. 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Queen V with Lauren Steinberg

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You honey's how are y'all I hope everybody's doing good out there. I sure do anyway so I wanted to let you know that the episode. I'm releasing today was recorded almost a month ago before Corona coverted a pandemic social distancing etcetera. So there's no mention of it and I only wanted to put that at the top just in case you're listening and you're like why is check ignoring what's going on. It happened before I always have some episodes in the bank because I like to be prepared. Honey Okay and I think we all know that that's important these days so I just wanted to mention that so that you weren't thrown by the fact that I don't mention it at all but you know what take this opportunity to just shut it out for a little bit because if you're like me sometimes it's a little overwhelming. And you need a little bit of distraction so we're talking about Basma wellness today vaginal cleanliness and whatnot. I think why not why not. Okay well I want to tell. Y'All it feels weird but I guess I need to share that my I B e India beauty. Expo Boutique is going to be closing soon. And a lot of the honeys have already purchased items from it. Thank you for those purchases. It will be closing soon and I know we're all penny pinching right now but I just wanted to mention it in case you were waiting to buy something and now here we are honey. I believe the boutique will be close at the end of March. So if you want to check it out. I'm going to put the URL in my instagram bio and the national bio on the episode guide. Because it's a little house was the word it's a little tedious it's T- UW. I DOT COM. And then you have to find me and click on me and then go in there but a lot of the products that are in the boutique have been brought up on the show. They've been up on my instagram. But just so you know everything in. The store is twenty percent off with code. Jackie two zero. And there's lots of fun stuff in there. There's the Great Enforcement Sarum which is my favorite serum. There is the halo smile teeth whitening. There's the key go bail which Chicago. Bill is ninety nine dollars with twenty percent off honey. That's quite the deal for Akiko Bell. I've been doing my Kiko Bell Lot in isolation because it's really fun for me and why not you know. Keep yourself busy and keep yourself snatched you know. There's all kinds of products in here. All the prices are very. There are some boozy items. But there's also like you know The starry eyes pop masks which the honeybees have fully embraced. They're essentially masks that heat up when you pull the cord. So they're really nice for relaxing and especially in stressful times like now. Yeah there's other products in here. There's The wild carrot nourishing Yvonne from Evan Healy which I am. Obsessed with Jillian co-founder of India beauty. Expo said to me that is her favorite. I product of all time and like honestly. It's really really up there for me as well. My under is been looking the best. It's looked in years and I've only been using this product by is so I'm really into it and it's twenty six fifty. Jackie two zero. You get twenty percents off of that and if you WANNA see all the products me demoing them walking around the Expo. Talking to the founders. They're pretty much. Almost all female owned any brands go my instagram. Jackie Michelle Johnson and Click on the IB story. And you can see me. Walking around the Expo I talked about all the brand founders and show you all the products and I had to mention it because it's almost done hiney so if you wanna be looking snatch during the apocalypse now is the time the other product I wanted to tell about. Unfortunately I hate this. It is not available today. They are going to be shipping them out in. May but I'm obsessed with and I wanted to just put the word out there because if you are honey that is on the pulse of everything. Cool and fun happening in the cooking space. I had to tell you about this new pan that I'd just Scott and the fact that we're having Penn DEMOC. I thought what a better way to celebrate than with a plan. I know that it's dark but bear with me. Okay so I found this. New Company called our place and it is a female owned indie brand and they are making this amazing pan called the always pan and their whole theory was why do we need fifty pounds. You know if you cook a lot like me. Then you're looking for like ten different things so you have to buy ten different pans and their whole thing is hey honey you only need one pan so this is what they've decided. It is the perfect size meaning not too small but it's not gigantic so you can pretty much so far. I've cooked everything I need to cook an end. There's a lot of lot of room. It's a ten inch diameter. So that's pretty big almost a foot wide and it is two point seven inches deep and as a two point six court capacity and it is a ceramic nonstick coating. Which if you've never used ceramic nonstick pan before you will never know the brightness of your life until you do it makes cleaning so easy it makes cooking so easy and let me tell you something. This pan comes in three colors one of which is called spice which is essentially a pink. It's sort of like terra. Cotta Pink and then it comes in this really pretty kind of light grey and then it comes in a what they call charcoal so like a dark grey blue and tell you about this pan okay it comes with four pieces and I know I'm just really excited about that. I found this that I discovered this pan. It has four pieces. The first is the PAN and it is aluminum aluminum core. I'm reading off the website. I JUST WANNA make sure I get it right. Quick an even distribution quicken even heat distribution for even an easy cooking so yes honey not all created equal. The panic has an easy pour. Spout which again. Why is nobody thought of this or at least none of the pans that I've had have it so when you're pouring things out of it it just goes right out hon? There's no mess then. It comes with the steamer basket so if you WANNA do esteem on some Broccoli or some dumplings or anything honestly it comes with a steamer basket then it has the lead and the LID is it. Says it's a smart modular lead so it can let out steam or lock whenever you need so if you want to do a steam great if you WanNa let out the same great and then here's my favorite part. I have been searching because I wanted a spoon. Rest to match all my other. Say and guess what they don't make my color and so I was like I need a spoon. Rest dammit. Guess what it has a built in spoon rest it comes with a spatula. The spatula nests onto the holder of the pan. The handle of the PAN is built and so the spooners will hole in it and it goes straight on there and I'm like wow it just sit there and I know I sound passionate but that's because I'm a home cook if y'all did know I'm a very passionate home cook and ever since I bought this Pan I've just been like wow. This is the best pan ever. It's super chic. It's woman owned. It's Andy they've truly thought of everything. It's very thoughtful. Inefficient easy to clean easy to get an even cook with it and obsessed with the Anna comes pink. Here's how much it cost one hundred and forty five dollars. I know that is not cheap especially given the time that we were in. Today I emailed the company knows like. Hey listen I'm Jacky J. Over thirty niche influence. Or I would love to offer code to my listeners. And they were like you know what we've never done a code. We have never done a code. Were new we're Andy and guess what we're going to give you one. And they offered me a ten percent code with code natch code natural. Take US down to one hundred thirty fifty which again I know is not cheap but honey. This is a huge investment. And it's very very nice so if you have the cash I highly recommend checking it out. Their website is from our place dot com and the Pan is called the always pan and I truly think if you get it you're gonNA love it and that's just some fun new item that I discovered that I wanted to tell you all about and I did ask the company for a code code. Nah channy of course because you know when I get the choice. It's always going to be code. Natch and we companies offering me codes and they don't give me code natch. I get annoyed. Because magic easy so to recap the indy. Beauty Boutique is going to be closing soon. And yes the code. Is Jackie two zero? I tried for the link to that go to my instagram nationally. Dot Com the episode guide or the Nashville Instagram. You can watch the stories under my personal instagram called. I B E and you can walk around with me at the expo and see all of the brand owners and me demoing the products. The always pan is made by our place from our place dot Com Code Nash. We'll get you ten percent off of the Pan again. It will not ship until may which does suck but I still wanted to tell you all about it because I am excited about this product and who knows maybe they'll start selling them early. I don't know I don't own the company okay last thing. I wanted to tell y'all is this week. You will hear the Laurence Steinberg next week. I'm going to release early. My episode with Meredith Fine Men. Because her book is coming out in May. We're going to try to time it around that but you know what pandemics pandemic so. It's going to come on early. Her book is available for preorder. Brag better the way to self promote yourself honey and then the week after that. My guess is going to be Mr Benjamin Chan who is stuck in quarantine with me and I know the hunter probably really excited to meet my boyfriend and yellow. We'll be meeting him soon and we will probably be recording that episode any day now because we are stuck in this apartment together having a nice time and he has a book coming out his well. I only hang out with authors. Now keep up sweetie so I hope Nash has been bringing some joy in some much needed respite from the stress and anxiety. We are currently facing together as an entire plant. I'm here for my honey's and y'all helped me stay. You know not losing it during this crazy time because I know we're all in this together and yells. Encouragement does not go insane. Okay honey I see you. I see your comment. I see your instagram's I see it all so I just want to say that everybody do your best out there. And and here's my episode and I will definitely still be here for. Y'All every week come hell or high water honey. 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I mean you know no judgment they were. I would argue a one hit wonder so but I'm happy how that went and I'm happy that my guest knew that was welcomed and Attribu- everybody welcome to Nash Byu as a Beautiful Day and the most beautiful part of today's you. Thank you for tuning in this first episode. Hi Welcome if this is now your first episode. Honestly thank you so mange and has shot Melissa. Since the beginning I mean truly. Y'All have been through some crazy adventures with me and you've put in the hours and I'm thankful and I just want to say hi to you especially and you know one that it to everybody who's rented View because I don't really I don't read them. I'll be honest because sometimes I can't handle them but by meaning like the negative ones but I read a few the other day kind of on accident and they were so thoughtful and so specific in wonderful and I just I'm so connected to the honeys and I'm so grateful so I just want to show it to the honeys who've written itunes reviews and if you want to write one honey I would love that you know what I mean so I'm here for it but anyway hi this is Jackie J. Your host the Beauty Talk Shock. Jock. The Queen of creams your host almost serums refreshes fringe on the West Coast. Your favorite over thirty influence or cookie sell their aunt the pop punk princess. Welcome to view. I don't know if y'all know but March is women's history month but here in Nashville. We're always celebrating women honey okay. We are celebrating women's history and we were always especially celebrating female founded and female own brands. Which is why honey today. We have a founder here and like it's an important factor. No she's in her twenties. Okay so we have a young entrepreneurial Queen in the building. Today she has been on several lists may have heard of. Forbes thirty under thirty honey. Keep up you may have heard of at age. Forty under forty. So she is. She is a resilient queen. She is a list queen she is a young thriving queen. My guest founded speaking of Queen Queen V. Which is a millennial focused affordable feminine wellness. I love it. The word affordable is in there because we are not out to get people okay. We're trying to make this accessible for everybody. Did you know that most feminine hygiene companies are typically owned and ran by moon? Well not a name our sweetie okay. My guest is here to school us on all things vaginal. She wants to normalize the conversation surrounding women's invasion of wellness and I thought why not women's history month. Let's talk busy baby. Okay please. Walk Up Laurence. Steinberg was the best intro. I have literally ever gotten. Oh well come on the road with you. Wake up to that sound good you. What Clip Clip this episode? And have it play my ringtone and you know what I will start all of your speeches. All of your turing Anything all your meetings. I will walk in. I will do the crazy. Count Intro for you why I need one. I didn't even know I needed one until now you know what I think we all do. Well welcome to Nash Lauren. I'm so excited that you're here to speak about your company and all of the things. You've learned about vaginal health and wellness. I have a lot of questions. Let's start with the questions. I ask every guest. The first one is what type of skin do you have? This is of course. We love skincare. Here what type of skin do you have? I mean it really just depends on my travel schedule. I feel like you travel a lot to see you probably know normally. It's just like normal skin. It's not oily not too dry but after I travel. My skin is always so so dry so I'm not obnoxious person on a plane. That does the face now. I mean no shame in my game. No we love. We Love Mask. I love a mass and I'm British. Your masks on planes are pretty calm and I call it multi masking now. Oh yeah pass them out to the people around you okay. This is a question specifically for you. What type of China do you have? I've never been asked that question but I know I know I feel like have A. I'm glad you didn't flinch. Part of it was like. Is she going to be worried? But this is your word I feel like I have a very witty vagina. That that weird. No thanks just like it can think on the spot. It knows what it wants. It's it's just like the girl you want to be friends with. This all sounds good to me now and last question. What is your favorite thing about yourself? That's interesting I mean. I think it changes every day. You know when you Kinda just surprise yourself and you're like oh I'm so good like I remembered that I'm so good. I think my favorite thing about myself today is probably just you know. Having an opinion I always have an opinion and I think that it's so important especially in business to just know what you want and go after it and so I think today. It's my opinion answer also answers. Thank you my favorite thing about you. Is Your Denim Jacket was a cute? It's very good. I know you know what I'm really into like dress sneakers and just denim. Maybe a headband vibe. So I think a denim jacket is such a mood I lately. I've been rolling up one and I'm like bad ass. Why didn't anybody tell me to roll up my jacket so cute I lied? I have another question okay. So have you watched goop lab? I love Google okay. So I've only still. I don't have time. I still have only watched the third episode episode and the the the older woman who's like the sex expert. She kinda schooled. Everybody and said that the vagina is the birth canal. Really when we are referring to a giant as we should be saying Volvo S I always say join the revolution I mean. How does that so I wanted to ask you? What is your word that you used specifically to describe like I say post not everybody does and I think it'd be fun if you choose the word. And that is the word reuse throughout the whole interview. Okay I mean normally I just saved a giant Guy. I feel like even getting first of all many people. Don't even say the word Vaginas. Yeah let alone. Getting people to save vulva is like you're saying I mean I think you know my whole mission with Queen. Bee is just de stigmatizing. The word giant. Let's use China China. What are we going against technically a little bit? Yes yes yes did you see the vagina? Candle Oh yeah got it on my I mean. Of course we. How much was it like seventy dollars? That was haven't let it yet because I'm like waiting for the perfect moment. That is what I was had the issue with. Yeah because I want a candle that says this candle smells like my vagina. But I'm not going to pay seventy dollars. Even though my vaginas worth the money I just couldn't get at sea or you could just probably like make yourself you could. But I also don't like ripping off ideas. What are we GONNA do? Lauren gotTA GET GUPTA sponsor. The Patriarchy is after us. That's all I know okay very interesting. I'm glad you got the candle. What does it smell like? You know what it actually smells. Kind of lightly floral It's like a nice fresh scent okay like I feel like my vagina. Smells like that day. I I've gotten I feel like one time Amy Schumer was on Howard Stern and she said her vagina smell or like a barnyard. That like it just rained and you can kind of smell the hey and I think that's kind of what I relate to more like earthy tone. I love that. That's what I think my vagina smells like. That's amazing you know mine is definitely not earthy. I'm not very earthy. I feel like good be more floral. Yeah well that's interesting. I love this. I'm already happy here. We're GONNA talk post today. I'm sorry we're GonNa Talk Vagina longest badge. No I'M GONNA SAY. Let's let's go there. We've made the decision. I was part of my deal vagina from here on out. Okay I I guess I still have other questions for you every time. I have an entrepreneur or brand founder in here I always ask them the first thing I ask them is. Where did you go to school? And what did you study okay So I went to the University of Southern California. I studied print journalism. Why how you know. I actually knew that because I did look at your link for my my listeners. Who Do that. Because I'm all about Lincoln now Yeah you know I. I need to get better Arlington. I do have a profile years very filled really well. I wasn't on it because I can be like well. I don't really have a job and I haven't Connie kind of had one so And they were like no get on it so I'm on it but years was very filled out you're a cab Alpha Theta Delta Gamma University. Oh nothing goes down faster than an English true. I mean I don't have anything to one's high as a Kite O. Q. Yeah you know who was a theater at my school. Who Jenna Bush? Oh really she was there. She was there when I was there. It's Kinda cool in fact not anyway okay We're not here to talk. This isn't match. Natch Greek okay. So take us back to because like I said you are young and you did start this company. Pretty Young. Yeah tell me how this started. Yes how neural growing up. I mean kind of like I had my own headband business. It was never not the one. I'm wearing right now. It was never like you know super entrepreneurial but what ended up happening was I was at the time like twenty three years old. I started getting infections. I didn't know what was wrong with me. I'd call my dad and be like I mean I wouldn't call my dad. Call my mom mom. This is what's going on. Can YOU ASK DAD? But don't say it's me like because your dad's a gynecologist verified that. So what is it pretty common in your house to talk about vaginal wellness? Going on with your body I so growing up. I mean my dad would take like patient calls from the kitchen from the dinner table For Show and Tell One Year my dad forgot to get me something and in his car he at the little sperm beanie baby that one of drug reps had given him so he just gave it to me and I thought it was a fish little did I know like showing telling US sperm. Maybe at like in Kindergarten. I Dunno so yeah I grew up around it. My entire Dad's side of the family is doctors. I mean my dad always thought I would take over his practice and I kind of was you know I grew up in L. A. so I was like I wanna work in Hollywood like I love. Tv I'm going to be network executive and I you know I was on my way there. I was quite successful in Hollywood. And then he's infectious. Started to hit and really. I just did not know what was wrong with me. I mean at one point I thought I had an S. T. D. I wasn't sure did you ever say. Hey Dad help me. Oh no not directly to his face through my mom of hours but it was embarrassing even talking about it with my mom I was like mortified especially to say like mom like I think an st or you know what. I didn't know wrong with me and at the time I did have a gynecologist so I went to the gynecologist and I was even embarrassed to tell my guy. No yeah it's very intimate. It's it's weird. I don't know it's just a part you don't really want to talk about. And so you know he asks me questions like are you using soap down there. I'm like of course I'm using so Powell's my supposed to stay clean. He's like. Oh we'll soap each of nine to twelve. Your Vagina has a Ph of three point. Eight to four point five. I'm like I don't even know what peaches right he's like. Are you taking a probiotic? I'm like I don't even know what a probiotic is so I think it was a lot of unanswered questions. Combined with starting to do research talked my friends realizing that I actually wasn't alone 'cause I felt very alone in this so three in every four women will get a yeast infection at least once in their life and twenty five percent of infections. That women get our. Ut is so. I found this to be just crazy. Nobody was even talking about this but clearly it was very common. It's very very common. And there is some kind of stigma or something around it. While we're you don't want to tell people or you're you're ashamed or afraid to get help. I mean I can't even tell you how many times I've gone to the drugstore and been like. I need a modest. Yeah that's what ended up happening to me. So I went to the drugstore. Go to the Feminine Hygiene set for the first time and I'm like what are these products is even feminine hygiene the Word Hygiene. What I mean. It's like my policies on fire motherfucker. It's also like the word feminine. It's like a little and it's just so everyone's of China is feminine and not have not everyone exactly so you know I. I ended up buying like five products. That said it would cure me of this. You know I had a yeast infection at the time and I tried them all and first of all the experience. You've used stat. I'm like a glue. Stick just slowly dripping out of you. I was miserable. I know that it's how much you burn. I mean it's just it's not convenient. It just wasn't conducive to my life. So yeah it's horrible So I ended up trying all those products. I tried a few other brands. Who were kind of slowly getting into that? I guess hygienes space and a lot of those products were super expensive and while they seem to work a little bit better than the drugs for offerings they were just you know. I was making minimum wage agency. I can't afford to spend thirty dollars on vaginal wash. And so that's really when the idea for Queen Bee was born And Quincy just takes like a really fun easy approach to a topic that you know a lot of women still find really confusing and embarrassing so okay you start. You want to start a company. How how do you do it like yeah? I'm curious were you. Did you run into any difficulty funding the company and like how did the meetings go because I would imagine coming in and being like hey? I need some vaginal help. Honey Oh yeah I imagine. That was an interesting experience. I mean definitely I think looking back I honestly just didn't really know what I was doing So I think that I was lucky. I think sometimes not knowing what you're doing is better So for me. It was just kind of slowly writing down products that I wish I had had so You Know I. I love taking bubble baths on Sundays. It was my favorite thing but the bubble bath I was using probably had some like weird fragrance or something in it and I kept getting. Ut is somebody stopped taking my boat off. I wrote down. Peach balanced bubble bath right. Like how easy. Yeah that makes perfect. I I've had that happen to me too and it's so sad. It's like the math bombs. I can't use them bath bums I wrote down or my favorite was the Mario Badescu. Rosewater is writing. Like my favorite thing is like you wake up and he just sprayed on your face and you feel so refreshed like I wish I had this from my vagina so I wrote down water sprayed from my vagina. That's literally how it started. And so you know from there. I kind of just created a book report of like I come. I came up with the fun names and the ingredients that I wanted to having the product and kind of what the packaging should look like. And that's kind of how I started it And then from there you know. Someone has to make the products. So I started googling manufacturers of bath bombs and I ended up finding this website That had a list of like five hundred manufacturers and I would just cold call so in the morning before work on my lunch break after work. Email just leaving all these voicemails and a few people get back to me. And so that's kind of how the development process of Queen V. Started. So it's very. I don't know sleeves rolled up figuring it out and then So Queen V. Actually ended up launching with Walmart In four thousand one hundred doors with eleven different products and I get asked the question a lot of the time like well. How did you get introduced Walmart? Yeah so slide into those Walmart. Well it's funny because you see your southern so you probably are very familiar with Walmart but for me. I'm from La. I have them out here. I mean we have one burbank and Long Beach. Long Beach per bank John. I I didn't grow up going note Walmart. I didn't really realize you know how big of a deal is. And so my boyfriend. Oliver is friends with Andy Done. Who's the former CEO of Bonobos It's like a men's clothing brand that was acquired by Walmart and he was like out lunch. One day you know talking to Andy Bragging about his girlfriend like wanting to start this vagina company. And he's like oh. I actually think Walmart would be really into this like can she go to Arkansas. So V- like two days later. I was on a plane Bentonville. Arkansas and I was in a meeting with about ten different people and Walmart's credit like ninety percent of that room were females which is crazy to think about and I just exactly what you said. I kind of just told my story and I talked about you know the problems I was having and it was very like you know. I WANNA start this company in here the products and that was it and in the room they picked up eleven products. How cool I always say. I think it was a little bit of luck a little bit of right place right time. A little bit of you know. They loved me. They loved my story. They love the products But Walmart really wanted to have a four women by one brand in that feminine hygiene set. That is so awesome. And that's also like you had done the work and it was all ready to go. It's opportunity meets preparation little bit. So I I'll go back to your financing question Because this point was like November. They wanted it in their D. C.'s. Which are like. They're kind of like storage areas In March and most businesses most like VC and private equity. They've kind of run out of budget for their year right and that time so I actually didn't have time to raise money so I ended up partnering with my Boyfriend's Company. It's called Brand Bowl which was backed by light speed and I got really really lucky and I didn't really have to go through that financing process And so we ended up launching At Walmart in March I mean it. Just sounds like you are hustling connecting network. I mean this is great. Yeah were you born with that skill or did you learn that at some point no I mean? I think I've always been very creative. I always kind of knew I would go into something creative I didn't think it would be you know making vaginal products but I think that the Hustle Kinda comes with when you find an idea or a project that you really are passionate about you you like you will do anything to make that idea work And so I think everyone has it in them. It's just kind of figuring out you know what turns it on right. I love that Oprah calls that your purpose I believe you know it makes sense your purpose. I remember one time when I was like really down on my career. This was many years ago I was like what is my purpose. Should I be a florist? Oh man no but finding this early on and getting that going is I mean I'm impressed. Are we impressed porn? I mean I don't think my purpose necessarily is like creating vaginal products. I think I you know. I thought like Oh Queen V. is like my entire life but I think it's more the bigger message of you know we need to have more women at the top. We need to have women supporting women and women should be making you know health products for women mentioned doing this which we love. That is what we're all about here as well love it. Okay my next question. I sort of already asked you this because I have a question about. Your Dad is a gynecologist infertility specialists and okay so vaginal health and wellness. Was that a part of your upbringing. Because I feel like a lot of us had to figure it out on our own and that is also that has so much to do with like regional religion. All the sort of things you know. I'm from St. That teaches abstinence. Only so I had to figure a lot of shit out myself and my parents didn't really go there with me so I'm just wondering like did your mom sit down at one point and say this is your vulva. This is your this is what you do. Was that ever a partner growing wasn't and you know it's so sad because I've actually been talking to a lot of friends and coworkers about this and nobody really had that experience of their mom sitting down with them or whoever's raising them sitting down and talking about it I do remember when I was probably like eight. My mom got me. I don't know if you've got this. But the American girl book about growing up and it shows like all I remember really is like the stages of growing boobs all like I found that fascinating cone and then it's round and all that stuff so we had that and then in junior high they did teach us about like deodorant and wearing a training bra and then for High School. I went to an Episcopalian Highschool. So sex ED was just like not a thing because I always assumed the California kids are like putting condoms on Bananas Chit Now. I mean not at my squad yet. Private School so I'm not sure if you know a thing we do. Rebecca did. Y'All put condoms on bananas sex. Ed Sort of yeah because you went to New York Public School. Yeah and Jessica you went to public school in Texas so no no sex. Same SO RAC-. My boyfriend went to a really hippy. Dippy due to a school in DC. And they were like all of the clitoris pain is like completely opposite of what I had. No I mean I think it's so important and especially today like talking about consent from a young age and you know mental health. I think all of those things kind of play into I guess puberty So I think that the conversations really important I do too. That's really interesting but it was also your parents would probably chill about like sex and birth control and that Kinda Shit. I mean kind of like my dad is an old school doctor so I mean he wears a suit working tie and he's very buttoned up and wanted me to take over the practice and then my mom is super liberal. And you know I would go to her. I don't think I ever went to her and said like I'm having sex. I want that for my daughter. I want that for my you know what I mean. I think it's important to just you know. Be Able to go to your mom or whoever is raising you or a friend or a close someone and be able to have an open conversation by instead of like trying to sneak it and not know you're doing you know. Yeah so I think about that a lot actually like with you know my future children you know. I just want to be that parent that they feel comfortable and safe going to well. You know what this is all interesting. I'm GonNa take a quick break and then we're going to get into the PH of your posts. Honey is how are you? This episode is sponsored by Third Love. And I'm telling you I've been putting a bra on every day because it makes me feel complete when I know that Bra is there and the only bras. I wear third love Bra because guess what third love believe. Everybody deserves to be comfortable and confident. That's why they want that brought to fit honey. They are absolved fit. 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It's like you know we were told not really to share issues that we're having So I think that's kind of what makes it so awkward right okay. Let's talk about the three step process and these are sort of surrounding the products in your line and sort of all of your research and work in this field. There are three steps to maintaining healing. And enjoying your. Yeah and we'll talk a little bit about it. I mean the reason I created a three step process and by the way Queen Bee was like the first to create this three step process. And it makes perfect sense to well it was just. It was so confusing to know what products did and so I just wanted to break it down and make it super clear so maintaining your V is all about keeping everything clean in that same three point eight to four point five. Ph Range so these are like your everyday products. So we have a probiotic. Would you take every day? We have a cleansing bar. We have you know body wash so these are things that you're using every single day. Step to healing your V. So when something goes wrong and something is bound to go wrong at some point. The most careful everything Ri- all the time sometimes in control I mean cramps. You really can't control Yeast infections some women are more prone to them. Uti's let's all about. How do you heal these infections? Or prevent them and then step. Three is enjoying your v. a. which is basically everyone's favorite category so these are just are fun. Products are fun. Flirty products is what I call them. Well we'll get into that. You've already mentioned the time. Yeah so I feel like this is super important and this is something that is never talked about. Oh I didn't even know about that and I kinda still don't. Yeah so I remember the Ph learning that point with the little strips. Yeah okay so what is a healthy vaginal Ph okay and it sounds a lot more confusing than it is So a healthy vaginal page is somewhere around the range of three point. Eight to four point five. It is that considered acidic basic. No or like nine to twelve. Okay yes yes. Why need your help? Yeah we always say as your Queen. Bee basic like no. It's not it's not basic got it that makes sense. Yeah that's kind of how I remember. So is your queen. Bee basic like you wish you would say its basic but it's not basic So most soaps on the market have actually a peach of nine to twelve. Okay Which to me was a little bit confusing. 'cause you're skins mantle actually has a peach of five so. I think a lot of the time I think most people actually understand this when it comes to skin care products like you understand that you're supposed to be using bounce products on your face right and it's kind of the same thing with your body So for me you know I was using just normal soap brand down there just externally but I guess something you know I call it like sneaky. Bacteria at kind of creeps up you. And that's kind of what caused those infections for me So with queen the creep each balanced products. It wasn't super groundbreaking. I don't know why nobody had really done it before. It just made sense to me. You know if you make a Ph balanced practicum used all of your body right. Well I remember the first time I gotTA use infection I was. I trace it back to Irish spring. So Gosh Yeah I was in the shower a partners and I was like Oh. I love the smell of soap and I soaked up my body. Why Not Right? You want to stay clean. You know good. I soaked up my body and I rinsed and I was like what the fuck is going on here. I mean and then I was talking to my friend and she was like. Oh my God one time. I got used to it because I use my boyfriend's Irish spring. Oh I just did that is you. Did that and I was like that must have been it. So what the hell are we wash our damn bodies with well and it's so interesting. I mean nobody teaches us these things and I think a lot of people say. Oh we'll all you need is warm water and for some women that may be the case they can. Just you know us warm water but for me like I always felt like I needed a little bit. Something more and there was never something more to us. Right that makes sense. Why would resort to soap? I mean you know it's safe. It's sold everywhere right. I wouldn't I be able to say on the box. Hey don't give this near your vagina unless you want to pay the prize right okay. So I have a question. I want you to kind of walk us through how to actually clean your vagina. Because I'm ver- I'm going to be honest. I'm confused and it's not like this is something you can just Google and watch a Damn Youtube video on so help me out here. Where do we cleanse? And where do we not claim? Yes so I always say this. I'm not a gynecologist. If there is a serious issue that you're having if you're having reoccurring infections don't just try to mask it with the products you should go to the gynocologist. Gynecologist is there to be helpful and helps cure these infections so always have to say that of core gynecologist did help you develop your line. Yes they did but Kito we always just want to be. Careful has an infection core. I'm talkin just general hygiene. Yeah so it. Kind of just depends. Everybody is different every vagina. Vulva is different. There's no such thing as a normal level of China. Yes it. Just have to say that to So you know it's it's really up to personal preference. I try not to preach that everyone needs to have a clean shaven like whatever it really just depends on how you're feeling so for me personally. It is actually important to call it the vulva in this case. Because you should not be putting anything up you okay. Nothing when you say up you do you mean in the whole in the whole around the whole like nothing because that can cause and in fact like nothing should be getting up there okay. So it's for external use only got it So for me. I like to personally us. Just a peach bounced body wash So I use that all over my body and then your line of in works at call. Let's tell everybody in Queen v So I use to balanced body. Washes One's a Foam Gel just because certain people. Yeah so you know. Use that all over my body and then when it comes to my vaginal Vulva region We have a bar called the V bar okay so it's a peach bounds cleansing bar and has a peach of five while again most soaps on the market of a peach of nine to twelve. So this one I use specifically in the region again for external use only doing hand motions. Hey I just WANNA ask okay. So I'm holding out my hand. Nobody can see this. Obviously but like I'm putting my thumb and my entertainment together side makes a little va vaginal. Shay yeah so we never open her up and cleanse in here. You know it. I wouldn't and if you feel the need to. That's probably when you use just the warm water okay. Yeah So for me. I'll use the bar like externally. I'll it on my butt cheeks to just like I dunno what about butthole but whole I use for mater okay but this is what I need to know because I feel like no one says that to you know how to clean your body how to clean your vagina and I feel like this is where people make mistakes. I especially women especially like the shame around it. If you do have something going on and like oh I got to be clean. I gotta be clean. You could fuck your shit up way worse and so. That's why I'm happy to hear that you an someone in this field is saying. Don't open her up honey. No open her. Our Monitor's great now. I've actually just sort of a very funny reference that I've never thought of before but kind of think of it as like the I region. Okay perfect you're under is so sensitive sue kind of after treat your Vulva Vagina. Like your dry where you use a very specific ice cream gentle with it and then you wouldn't put that cream on your eye and put it into your eyeballs. It's very similar to that news. That comparison of really good analogy. Yeah okay got it so like if are cleared area. We don't rub the wash her out. No we only use water for her. I would just use okay got it? Yeah you don't WanNa test the limits and you should never go soap up your hand and go inside. No okay here. I don't do that. I tried to help everybody listening so the vagina is a self cleanser. I think it's important to note as well so Nothing should go up you. It does cleanse itself. Yes our products are for only yes but no butthole now. It doesn't need it. Interested some water interest unless there's like something up there. I don't know right. Well I'm in that case. Go to your doctor. You'll be fine if you do a wash. Maybe that's the next product I'M GONNA call on an interesting idea Walmart and pitch my but wash. I love listening. Never now okay. What I don't know if you know this from speaking do maybe your customers or whatever but what are some things that and I hate to use. The word doing wrong. But what are some misconceptions? Would you say about maybe vaginal hygiene or vaginal wellness general? Yeah I mean going back to the thing that I said earlier of you know. There's no such thing as a normal vagina right. I think a lot of women think that they're regina is supposed to look a certain way. The lips should look a certain way and they see In just you know different types of media a vagina looking a certain way and the reality is everyone looks different. Like there's no such is in the KOREAN SPA. I may say okay. So that's kind of one thing you know what I was looking into it and then I got a little bit nervous. Yeah yeah I just got nervous? I went for the First Time. The scrubbing our wild. Yeah Yeah we'll see I do WANNA go okay. The second thing that I would say is you don't need to shave to go to the gynecologist. I get asked that question. Why a lot of women are embarrassed and think that they're gonNA will be judging what their Vagina Looks. Laker about their choices that they're making And if you do go to a gynecologist who kind of comes off as judgmental or makes weird comments you should not be going to that gynecologists. That's not their job You know for me I think of going guy no is like finding your guy knows like dating you have to date around a little to find like the one So it's another thing. I think you know a lot of women. Think that their vaginas should or shouldn't smell a certain way. And you know when it comes to that it's again up to you know personal preference. Everyone's very opinionated when it comes to the vagina and Vulva. And just say you know. Do whatever makes you comfortable. Some women have great plumbing. Some women. Don't you know some women need these products and some don't I mean we've seventeen products now with Queen v. You kind of get to pick and choose what you want exactly. That is so fun. I want to ask you your your vaginal retain home minds crazy. Though I love that it just depends on how much time I have. I mean. I'm lucky because I get my products for free stock up but I will say that I take a probiotic every single night before bed Ours doesn't have to be refrigerated. Which is so nice because you can leave it wherever if you forget like one on my desk Leave one on my bedside and in my bathroom so always take a probiotic I use the wipes constantly throughout the day. Especially if I'm traveling the wipes come in handy there. Flushable which is so nice The spritzers tell me about the white. Oh The lobster. Great so their fragrance free. They don't smell great on. They are a bit thin but they are flushable so that's super convenient for us because we're constantly on the go on. They come with a reasonable lead. You can throw it in your bag. They're called our swipe rate wipes that's really cute so those are great. And what's the point? Like kind of keep keep praying for the day. I mean for me. It's like a lot of women. Go to the gym or workout. And then go to dinner right after and don't have time to shower so it's just like a quick little freshen up Especially like if you're on your period Sweating throughout the day for Travel Day. Those like save my life And then with the wipes. I always recommend the Spitzer. Which is our deodorizing rose. Water Spray. The Spitzer's incredible. It's I was just like a quick spritz is all you know what I mean I'm if using Ashby I love a face missed. I have like ten. Am I native missed? I'm offended that. I don't have my gosh. I should've brought you products today but I mean I need that if somebody 'cause I sometimes I do spray my buddy Australia. My chest like with my refreshing kind of rose spray so I need. I need women to like spring perfume down there which obviously is so dangerous so the spritzers amazing. It's great like if you're not about to hook up the guys that is what I'm saying. Period those wipes would come in handy for kind of maybe posts. Sex literally everything. Yeah they are great for everything So I'll use the Spitzer just depending on what my day looks like and then At night I have both body washes in my shower. Also have our bubble bath in my shower because it smells so good and I don't always have time for a bath so sometimes I'll use it as a body wash. And then obviously the bar is like my holy grail product. I'm really excited about the balanced bell. Bubble bath because I feel like there was a time where I was having problems I was like. I love bad so much and it was a thing where I literally stopped having. I stopped taking baths because I was like. I'm now too afraid to take a bath to enjoy myself because I feel like my sorry my vagina. I'm you know guys. I'm trying to break the habit no I couldn't I just. My giant was sad and the bath was making our sad. Yup and I love I get asked a lot of the time from MOMS to like my little girl used this because a lot of little kids who are using these like bath bombs and stuff are getting horrible. Ut is when they're like little So our bubble bath is one of our bestsellers it comes in this like neon pink really cute packaging and it's literally the perfect bubble bath like I. It's perfect and what's the name all the products of cute and hop the bubbly? I mean did you aucune going back to my USC. Today's move the bottles. Honey I think on the back of it. It's a staying in as the new going out. That is so cute. Okay tell me sort of about the enjoy category. I know you have some kind of Lubes and things So enjoy was super important to me especially just going back to my days of creating Queen v. You know when I was looking for a lube all the loops on the market were like really marketed. Towards men. They all the ones that the main grocery store they It's like the bullet just gross. And then once you do find a lube you like. Sometimes you read the back of the packaging and there's an ingredient called Propylene Glycol that is Dr from petroleum oil so those are kind of nasty ingredients. You should probably stay away from no again. So many friends of mine. Who HAD ISSUES WITH LOU? Fuck Shit up. And it's like what are we. We're trying to get our faulk on. Like what do we do here? It's not fair. Yeah no we haven't Apart called PSA Lube you. It's an organic Alabama wire. All the name kill I love. Psecu it kind of matches the packaging of pop the bubbly too. So it's paying It's just beautiful. It's not sticky at all super hydrating And another thing to note to is like using lube is totally great and normal I always say wetter is better. I think that there's this culture of Lube shaming that I've heard about and I we just we shouldn't be shaming people for vaginal dryness like that's such a normal thing especially again not talked about. Oh it's silly you know as you get older or you know if you're on antidepressants or anxiety meds like everything can kind of see stress? Anything can cause that so. Psa is the solution very cute. Yeah and then. Don't you have like bath bombs for period? Yeah so these do really well. These earner are he'll category So they're actually all natural there. Fragrance-free die free on but they smell really good because they're infused with essential oils that help with menstrual cramps. So they're amazing when you're on your period or getting your period. Pms saying I'm the hot water in the bath. Combined with the bath. Bomb just really soothes the cramps. What's called bombshell everything? You're so cute. And my favorite part about Queen V. Is The price range again? Because some of us are in our twenty. Some of us are in college. Some of us. Are you know like you said you made it sort of assessable? So what is kind of the price range on them? Yeah so it kind of just depends where you're shopping. Walmart definitely has our lowest prices. Every I mean our probiotic I think is the most expensive and it sold for like twelve ninety. Eight there So you know. Having affordable and accessible feminine hygiene products for all women is something that every company who is making these products should strive to have. It's not fair to charge thirty dollars. Twenty nine dollars. Whatever for a vaginal washes You know these companies who are run by men have a really big markup on the prices and are making a lot of money so for Queen v. You know for me it wasn't about making money You know obviously it's a business. We have to make money so you know but our margins are super low but we are sold in mass market. And we're so proud to be sold in mass market So we're sold at Walmart. Target rite aid. Cvs were also sold free people in urban internationally were sold at Sephora. Wow so girl. You are spread. Yeah we're we're very spread. All that so exciting I wanted to ask you. I feel like when I was searching through your products in just all over the Internet. Everybody was talking about you. Have a product for curing. Is it used just actions? I knew you're going to say tell me about this. Because I'm telling you like I I turn a point where you just started coming from. Yeah and and in the worst one I just had one. I went to Puerto Rico over the holidays. And honey let me just say I lived a life in Puerto Rico okay. I was in bathing suits. I was in water I was I was imposed. I was gave my fuck on. I was having a great time and then I get home and I'm like something doesn't seem right. Yep and it's hard to get a flu can I'm telling you this. If I ran for president that would be my platform it would be. Fluky is available over the Counter Johnson. Twenty twenty okay because the other alternative is like we were talking about earlier. Going to the drugstore and shooting up steph curry. Glue up your post when you could just take a pill but you have to call the guy. No they have to swap you. They have to take the they send out the lab report. They send it back then. They call it a prescription that is screen actors. Guild share. I tell you more it's a Lord. There's an alternative. I hear you. I knew about this. In December. Yeah everybody was ranting and raving about your product. All all the all the reviews. I was reading all the pages really. You have to have this product in your. Shell tell me about it. What's the name of? Yeah so I think you know it's so interesting that you've had this experience and I love it because I feel like these are like my perfect customers because you just got it And a lot of the times to the antibiotics they put you on can recall infections So we have the eraser for Yeast Infections and then. Utm I for Urinary Tract Direction So the eraser. Is You know it really did help? Save my life because when you have a yeast infection I mean you just want to curl up in a ball and just like not be there. Does that make you? Don't want to go to work. And there's so many ranges of them. I mean like I said the first time I got one I was like what is happening is terrifying and then sometimes you have a little sting and Shane. Yeah you know. And and there's such a range of them and then you're like oh I have committee oh I have a UPI. Oh I have this. You don't know it's so confusing and that's why I always say to go to a gynecologist his again like well. If you've had a Houston you probably know when you're getting your phone so the eraser is a suppository so this one does go up view And this is a homeopathic formula. So for me I did some research. And there's an ingredient called glycerin. That's a sugar that can cause yeast infections in a lot of these like anti yeast infections. Depositories so ours does not have that. The main ingredient is borax and that basically just helps reset your vaginal Ph overnight So for some women it takes a little bit longer Use It as a spot treatment if you kinda just feel it coming on the periods under a little itchy or whatever So that is just amazing product depository so it does leak out overnight. I always recommend using a little bit of a liner but the formulations are just totally different than what you'll find at a drugstore. Yeah I've got like I said that was the one product that when I was like doing research on your brand all the people on this is the product. This is the product Walmart. It's just it's different music to my ears. And if women need quick help I know so it is available at Walmart Target. Has that product right at cvs and then if you are getting these reoccurring. Yeast Infections On our website Queen Bee Life Dot Com. You can actually get a subscription So it can just come to your company don't even think about it and then UTM. I is great for preventing Urinary Tract Infections. We don't have one that gets RID OF A. Ut I gotta get you gotta get the Doctor Info Quite Formula One yet What I get it should be alright account or the UT minds great if you take it every day you just read the instructions. Dinos and cranberry And does really work to help. Prevent the Ugi Gun like demand is just kind of like a natural ingredients so for Queen. Bee was really going back to like the root of the issue. And like how can we solve this using ingredients? That won't you know mess anything up. I want that product too. Because you know sometimes it just happens as much as I possibly can at this and they are together. Oh Nice that's even more fun. Okay we love that. I don't think I took a second break. I'll try one now and if it's too late it's too late. We're GONNA take a break and we'll be right back. It's a trying time. The challenges all of our basic assumptions. 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You're female brand owner euro a millennial brand owner. You're young brand owner. Yeah I'm twenty six hiding twenty six years old so cool. Do you have any other personal. Self Care Rituals. Oh man I mean I think self care is like the most important thing as I've grown up and kind of really you know started to deal with the stress and anxiety and the world we live in is so crazy right now. I think self care must be a priority I take it really seriously like I really think. Investing in me time will help you be more successful whether it's you know if you're a mom or if you are running a business or you know being a good friend good partner So for me going back to those masks. I really liked to do a good face mask like three times a week. I'll put on like a youtube video while I do my mask. I highly recommend Glam glow. The super mud is so good and then cheap masks you know have a whole kind of like skin care routine that I really stick to And then other than that. I think you know working out when you can can really hope clear your mind. I think just you know hanging out if you have a dog walking your dog or being with your friends and just laughing That's really important and then taking a bath with pop the bubbly as like my thing on Sundays go. We love a weekly bath moment. Have you met along the way? Any other female founders that you think we should all support and kind of do you. WanNa show man I love this question. I've actually met so many and it's incredible because these are women that I've looked up to by almost view them as like celebrities in my head so I have always been obsessed with dry bar and for the launch of Queen the Alley Web Came in on my panel and it was so nice of her to do because I was a nobody queen. Bee was nothing and she took the time to do that. So I always say dry bar and Ali I recently became really good friends with Sarah Gibson Tuttle who owns all of June a nail salon here in l. a. and then their products are sold at target as well and she is incredible. She is so nice and so funny And then if you are mom I actually just recently met Catherine mccord who runs a blog called. We list You should look her up. Her feet is incredible and she goes to the farmers market on Sundays. Like shows you how to make all this food but if you're busy and working mom or not working and just busy She has a subscription box called one potato. And it's kind of like Was Blue Apron but for families so your kids can help get involved in the kitchen. And she's really really sweet to wondered about that because kids are so picky you know. And they don't want to eat like ridichio glazed. Whatever they're going to be like. Can we have the macaroni? Please like whatever so. That's a great idea but I mean just supporting female founded female owned businesses to more run. Businesses You can google it. You can find it on instagram pretty easily but you know these female founders are incredible and starting a company is not easy so for them to pave the way for the future generation. I think is so important and supporting them is one of the best things you can do. Yeah I mean that's what national is all about. We Love Finding Women on brands. Okay so what are some of you kind of named a few? You said you have a skincare routine. You love whatever couple like of your main products that you're like this is a must. Have I mean because the skin is looking good Yamanaka? Have you ever had skin struggles? You know what I I was like. That girl that in sixth grade I started washing my face religiously and I never knock on wood like the horrible acne. I mean obviously disciplined your skin. Well obviously you know your gift for your hormones getting period and stressed and traveling. You know you have. The occasional breakout but We actually just partnered with Sunday Riley on one of their boxes and so I have been using their products. And let me tell you. Those are some really good product. I really liked their. Ceo Glow and good genes is really good. It's a little pricey but I think it's worth it I really liked the brand code. Laura is that how you say French And I discovered it in Paris when I was there for work. And it's like a drugstore brand there but in America it's so reminded me a lot of Queen V. and I really like their stuff if you're abroad stock up because it's cheaper so queen vs in Sephora in Europe it's in Sephora right now in South Korea and then we just launched in Australia Co who. Soclean view went down under literally easy. Honeys get you some queen fee. That's so cool. Oh my gosh I mean or your parents so proud of you. They are yeah. It's so sweet I you know. I just think that they've been so supportive throughout the whole process and it was kind of this realization of lake. While if I don't do it nobody else is going to so now. You might siblings. I do I do my sister. She's so successful to she is in law school right now and just got a job. And then my brother is In College right now thriving and he's an actor so oh man we're all the DNA ordinary. There's no favorite right now. I was the favourite for a little to say. I'M GONNA. Where are you in the birth order? I'm the first. I'm the oldest. So they have a lot to live up to. I mean the DNA is strong. Hold them to a high standard. Steinberg's are on point. Everybody I'm very impressed and I'm GonNa make that her facebook status now. I mean let's go okay. You've already kind of told us. But we're wrapping up here. Tell us where we can find Queen V. Maybe if you do go to Walmart where are the products and the Walmart you know? Where do we go? 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Shining Laser Lights On Your Balls & Beyond: Photobiomodulation 101 - How To Use Near Infrared & Red Light For Collagen, Thyroid, Muscle, Skin & More.

Ben Greenfield Fitness

1:21:50 hr | 2 years ago

Shining Laser Lights On Your Balls & Beyond: Photobiomodulation 101 - How To Use Near Infrared & Red Light For Collagen, Thyroid, Muscle, Skin & More.

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For some reason, I have gotten a reputation of late as a guy who shines laser lights on his balls, and it may have been a a men's health magazine article in which I talked about this form of life therapy called photo, bio modulation as a way for a dude to increase sexual performance or his sperm count, or as testosterone. Maybe it's because I've described on on many podcasts in the past about how I pulled on my pants for about twenty to thirty minutes a day while I'm at my desk and I bathe my nether regions in red and near infrared light using this nifty little light pound device called the Jews. I, it turns out though that the benefits of photo bio modulate in all joking aside, go pretty far beyond just your your crotch there. There's one recent study actually, and I'm gonna link to it in the show notes that all that will give to you here in a little bit. During this episode, there's a recent study that. Hinted at the fact that photo by modulation which is also called them. IBM should be banned because it might be an illegal performance enhancing drug, and that's do a lot of the biological mechanisms that will talk about in today's show. But what I decided was I wanted to get a couple of experts in the field of photo by modulation on my show guys who know the ins and outs of laser light. Their names are Justin Strahan and Scott Nelson. They're here in my home with me. We just finished piecing together this crazy modular photo, bio modulating device. They invented a my living room and kind of going through that, and you're gonna learn a lot about what that is to on today's show. So who are these dudes? Well, Justin actually invented and developed much of the technology behind the Juve lied. And you spent his cruise and engineer managing design and development teams apparently has six children as well. Something I've learned about Justin so far more patient man than I and then a ski. Dot is is the guy who said a lot of what goes on behind the scenes at Juve in motion and prior to co founding Juve. He spent his career in leadership positions with some pretty big medical device companies like Medtronic and Covidien in Boston, scientific and see are barred, and he also has a podcast top-ranked medical device podcasts called med cider radio. So these guys are pretty much obsessed with light. Welcome to the show, welcome to my home guys. Thanks man. Awesome. Finally, finally, be here excellence honored to be here. Yeah, and just just see, guys know you'll you'll get to know the the voices of each of these cats here as you listen to the show. But I would say just in your your voices possibly a little bit more smooth and and. I got years, giving me a quite a standard. Hold up. Now you've got the voice for radio. I was just that much more masculine it well, yeah. Well, also your microphone stand broke before he started importing so boost your levels a little bit behind the scenes. So. So which one? You design this thing, this Juve light. Yeah. So going back to how we kind of discovered it, my wife, actually, I introduced me to photo by modulation, or as we've heard to it at the time, red light therapy and after digging into the science of it. I worked on developing the original Juve which I see sitting behind us here in your office. Now's your wife, introduce you to it. What do you mean? She I tried out the therapy in a salon where they had they had tanning beds that were converted for the purpose of red light therapy. So they were using strictly red wavelengths and she had some pretty awesome health benefits from it. And then because of that, she wanted to try to find something she could use at home, not only just for herself, but also four. Myself intersex children you referenced earlier and, and that's what really led us down the path of creating our own device that would allow that to be possibility. Where would you just take your together in your garage or. No, it's it was kind of funny. The the first Jew prototype tinkering probably would be a pretty accurate description. It was basically a collection of infrared heat lamps clamped to a two by four hung on either side of our shower. So that was the very first prototype. Wow. And so so that was the, I actually have one of these. It's about well, four feet tall about a foot wide. That's the Juve original that you developed. That's correct. The original one used to shine on my on my balls, not. I've got your elite modular. I can just shine everything my whole body oh wants. We'll talk about that because I think it's pretty sick, but ultimately, once you hook up with Scott, how that happened? Well, my wife Melissa, her younger sister is Liz. Who happens to be Scott's wife. So we are brother-in-law's. We've known each other for twenty some years now. Wow. So you got a lot of nephews and nieces, Scott, we've adjusted. It's got six. He's he's beating you on that front for. Sure. I've got. I've got four kids of my own, but the family extension goes goes far and wide for sure. And you were in medical device sales before you started doing this? This laser light thing I was entire career in the traditional men of the vice game primarily in the cardiovascular space products like peripheral stents and balloons and Neth rectum catheters kind of the stuff that goes on in interventional cardiology lab or something like that. But yet. So my last actually position before before Jew was actually. Overseeing marketing for the Indo Venus franchise at Medtronic. And so that was the last game that's actually what brought us to Minneapolis in the first place. But so anyway, I come from a very formal Mantech medical device background. So when when Justin's wife and then my wife who experienced the same type of benefits he us with with this concept of red light therapy, I thought we'll that's. I mean, that's way too. For me. There's no way you know, different colors at might have these types of benefits on your body. But as as just in as as just an issue before we started digging into the science and I'm kind of a guy to go straight to PubMed and it was pretty mindblowing how much research has been published specifically using red and near infrared wavelengths. It's it's like it's legit limited research. So that's why I want to get into is this whole idea of photo by modulation. And I think a lot of people get confused when they hear about all these different light wavelengths and I get asked this all the time. What is read? How does that comparative far. Red or foreign for what's Niro for read. So can you guys walk me through the specific wavelengths of light using something like like photo bio modulating and I'll care if you call that PB 'em because I already did and an apparently that's the word all the kids use anyways. Yeah. No, I'll feel that one. So basically there's all types of health benefits that you can get from a wide range of wavelengths. Obviously sunlight provides everything from the UV visible light into the near infrared mid and far. Infrared wavelength ranges and all those have have some related health benefits. But for the purposes of this Pacific ranges that have the most scientific research behind them are red wavelengths between six hundred and six hundred seventy nanometers and then near infrared light in the eight hundred to eight hundred eighty nanometer wavelength ranges. Okay, so so that I term that use red light. It's not far infrared light, correct. So when I say read, I mean visible read that you're able to see with the naked eye that red is the stuff you can see. Like when I flip on Juive and all the it's it's like one of the circles is red. And the next one next to that is clear then the next one is read the ones that are read that actually red light in you said, the six hundred to eight hundred fifty nanometer range and in the near register when you can't see correct. So the red is between six hundred and six seventy in the near. Infrared is between eight hundred eighty in terms of the scientific research, the juvenile devices that we've got here we use read at six sixty and near infrared at eight hundred fifty meters mortis farm for comment far. Infrared has some great benefits primarily related to heating tissue. So you're infrared sauna, for example, is primarily be using wavelengths longer than three thousand nanometers, which would be considered far. Infrared light. Can you see far infrared light? No, you can't. The main basically human. I can see up to around seven hundred nanometers. Once you get much beyond that, you're not going to be able to see it with the naked eye. So if I have an infrared sauna specifically one of these farm for red saunas because I like that big, clear light. One of my gym over here. I'm not getting the same type of red and near Peretti's and give from the Juve that's giving me the farm for it spectrum. And then I get the red near-infrared when I flip on something like this. Exactly. Okay. So so tell me about some of the actual research behind read in some of the research behind near for red because I want to wrap my head around white, combine these two into one laser panel. Yeah, to stop saying laser lights. I'm all space agey. I'll touch on that briefly. So the original PBS devices were lasers they were to as low level laser therapy or l l l t so the really the origin of the of the field is based in lasers ice to get attacked and health conferences by digital, these laser light ones. Yeah, I never noticed Jack from any of them really interesting. I think the main issue with issues with lasers is just the treatment area. Obviously you're talking very small area. So even though the, there's some robust evidence for the deeper tissue benefits with lasers. The treatment areas is such that it's very limited in terms of the overall benefits and applications and to be to to be fair. I think in many cases, people would just like shine it on, you know, like a bum knee as a mockery health conference. And I know a lot of times you need repeated doses and probably a little bit more of a controlled environment, but it's that that's where all this originally developed with z. low. You call them low. Title low level laser therapy. Okay. And those are like the ones or kind of like these laser guns that you'll see a lot of people use it car practic clinics or alternative healing clinics, places like that? Yeah, exactly. It's been used in the kind of physical physical therapy. World for for quite some time in really what came about with some studies in the nineties that demonstrated the fact that LED's could be just as effective only. Now you could treat a much larger surface area without having the risks of potentially overheating tissue that you have with lasers. What's the difference between an LED and a laser? The main difference is just the light source at self. So with the laser, you have a coherent beam in what that means is you have a specific wavelength. So literally all the photons are in alignment with each other. So you have basically all the waves lined up in that enables the beam of light to stay very, very tight. And that's why you have all these different applications for you know, whether it's cutting tissue or even in the manufacturing where you can cut materials with lasers because you can tighten up that beam to a very small point with LED's. You have a fairly tight range of wavelengths, but you don't have that coherent beam. Mm. So the light is dispersing and in basically control that with the lenses on a device, like really like, basically what we have on the ju- fights who can control the spread of those photons to hit a target a specific area. So in this case, if you wanted to target the entire body, you stand in front of a whole panel of the LED, but then that's combined with near him for Ed. Exactly. In to get back to your earlier question and why we use both wailings from a biological standpoint, both wave links have very similar impacts at the cellular and medal Conrail level of the main difference being that the near infrared, infrared wavelengths are much more effective at penetrating through the deeper tissue, and that really boils down to the the water absorption that allows them to penetrate deeper. Just add onto Justice, comment their photo medicine by largest very niche field within healthcare in general. But if you if you were to go to a photo medicine conference, most of the older academics. I would say the field was was built on laser based therapy. But if you talk to like a younger researcher, eve- even someone like Dr Hamlin who's who's who's often referenced in this district or Michael Hamlyn and it's right Dr. Michael Hamlyn he's a PHD at Harvard runs his own lab. It's published over three hundred manuscripts, but he would say that with the advent of medical grade LED technology in general, you can deliver the same type of intensity with very quasi, coherent light just over much broader treatment area as opposed to a laser as opposed to a laser. Exactly. Okay. So basically what you're doing with LED is recovering more area, but you're still using the same effects as a laser doesn't have to be like this targeted one that you hold over the tissue. It's more like the shotgun effect. Exactly. Okay, got it. So how is this any different than sunlight? The me step to the sun because his sons got you. You'd be be all the wavelengths of light spectrum from blue to near for farm for red and beyond. So. How how is this different than sunlight? Sure that the main the main difference is instead of having the full spectrum in just a backup. We're big fans of getting as much natural light as possible. My wife and I will typically go out in the morning and try to catch like white vampires hunched over new garage, laser lights, def, definitely not. So we got the southern California tan working on that everything. So no, we're definitely big believers in getting natural light as much as possible. But the fact is for for most of us, we don't get outside near as much as we as we should. So I think the latest stats that I've heard is Americans spend roughly ninety three percent of their lifetime indoors, separated from natural light. So with us, she those who have you know, like I'm a blogger and a podcasters people ask me and once you to spend all day out in the sun, like you preach Ben, I'm like, I can't because I have to pay the bills exactly most most of us fall into that category and won one way or another. So whether you're in corporate America or even most of most of our children. Spend most of their time indoors in stuck in a classroom. So for a variety of reasons that our lifetime, our lives have changed so much over the past one hundred to two hundred years. We're not getting the natural light that we should be so photo by modulation or PPM, just because this a way to harness some specific wavelengths they're really important at helping to restore healthy cellular function in specifically with some of the stresses that ourselves are constantly undergoing whether it's bluetooth EMF's from other types of technology WI fi cell phones and even the extreme amount of blue light that most of us are are under for good section of the day. So PBS is a great way to help restore that healthy function at a cellular Monaco Andrea level after we're kind of bombarded by all this other stressors throughout the day. Yeah, it's not just just an add to that. It's not too dissimilar to supplementing any anywhere else you'd supplement your diet, right? If you've taken a multivitamin, if you're adding protein powder to a smoothie, it's not terribly different than that. Most of us just simply cannot spend the amount of time that we need outdoors. It'd be like in a bunch of folic acid from spinach and kale my morning. Smoothie, but then wanting more. And so I support my die with the multivitamin, Scott, like methyl touch or high to full it in it. So I'm like that. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Those my excuse to use a big word. Sounds smart. So you've got these lights that are essentially giving you some of the beneficial wavelengths of sunlight, but you're not getting UVA in the UV which isn't bad per se, but in excess amounts of can be you're not getting much of the blue light in the artificial light on not getting artificial light from sun, but you're getting blue light. And so these things commute a night, for example, without disrupting circadian rhythm. But what I want to do is is you know, we we very briefly went over just a few little benefits of this, but I want to dig into some of the research, proven benefits of what photo bodyman photo by modulation been show to do. I discussed are saying PB 'em fellas I obviously have, like I mentioned, caught some attention for talking about how it improves the activation of the late excels in the testes for sperm cells and to stop thrown in sexual performance in blood flow and possibly kinda kick that horse to death in articles that have written. I think a lot of people are aware that I pulled on my. Pants in front of the Juve line. There's a lot of guys doing it. Now. My friend all over in Finland is the first guy who told me about this. He would lay on his couch at night and just like hug his Juve. I think he of the original. You just like hug it just like lay there on the couch with the thing like Nestle up in his crotch, and it'd be for like twenty minutes a night, and he showed me his before and after testosterone I was, I was amazed. You guys sent me other research studies of on on pre and post to SaaS from levels of guys who do this, but it seems to go beyond sexual temptation into stocks, Joan in blood flow in silly jokes about lead in your balls and there. There's a lot of other interesting and compelling research on this stuff. So walk me through some of the things that you guys know photo by modulation to do in some some kind of the ways you know the mechanisms of action behind how that would work. Sure. I'll take a stab at that one. So as you mentioned the the benefits are pretty wide ranging. It's literally everything from skin health to muscle recovery, to enhancing peak Catholic performance to reducing joint pain and inflammation too. There's there's evidence that suggests that it helps with thyroid function. So if I were to list all of those benefits on on a late night, QVC commercial, most people would be like, that's too good to be true. That doesn't make any sense. I'm like, you used car cars. Exactly. But the reality is is all of this is supported by a robust amount of published peer reviewed clinical literature. In fact, there's over three thousand manuscripts that I'll repeat that Ian three thousand manuscripts. It's unheard of in like most most healthcare arenas, but there's three thousand manuscripts that have been published to showcase the benefits of these wavelengths of light and maybe more compelling. There's over two hundred double blind, randomized placebo controlled trials, showcasing the benefits. So there's a robust amount of science when every single benefit that we mentioned here during this conversation, it's supported by research. You can simply do a a PubMed search for l. t. p. b. m. thought Obama jubilation. It'll be a laundry list of studies that support this, but those those are some of the benefits at a at a at a high level. But the reason for the wide ranging varying sort of health benefits from these these wavelengths of light, it can. It goes back to the fundamental core mechanism of action. You know, what are these specific wavelengths of light doing at a cellular level and at a at a from a from a macro perspective, these wavelengths actually. Excite an enzyme during the fourth phase of cellular respiration called site chrome Ciocci as you mentioned earlier in the in the intro, but by doing that, that will actually tend to free up side of chrome. Ciocci today's from nitric oxide. That's why you get the nitric oxide. Vasile dilation enhanced blood flow, then you could probably speak to that more than I did. Your masters was specifically on nitric oxide, but you more than anyone probably not can speak to the benefits BioChem. I spent. I spent a lot of time writing a paper on FOX tire for semester neighbor. Your voice nitric? Exactly. No. For for me on though I was a gym rat, you know, his bodybuilding museum, no explode and just wanted to dig into the mechanism of action. I just thought it was cool molecule and get it tattooed on me or anything like that, but but it is interesting you know, in in some cases, excess nitric oxide, as you guys know can result in excess radical production. I wanna talk to you a little bit more about this whole purported Goldilocks effective photo by modulating on the idea that you might not want to do too much of it, which was originally, there's this guy that makes his headset device you heard of the violet before. It's like I have one over there in the corner under that where that every other day or so, I guess, fantastic for for jetlag and for. Cognitive performance for one understands very similar, like put money. You guys do lights on the skull, and he told me he was like use it about every forty eight hours like for thirty minutes or so, you don't wanna create excess reactive oxygen species. And so I wanna talk to you guys a little bit about that. But before I do, I want to want to continue down this road of the mechanism of action. So this things activating side of combs, the oxidise releasing nitric oxide. Then by doing that, you free up side of today's to to be used in the way it was supposed to be during the fourth phase of cellular respiration, and that's really to to produce the the gradient, and the mighty contrel makes matrix to produce ADP. So which is a precursor to ATP, which is cellular energy or the energy currency currency of life. If you know taking everyone back to the high school biology biology class, but that's that's sort of the core fundamental mechanisms of action. You do get sort of secondary things that go on. So enhanced gene transcription better cell sick. Signaling a shift in cellular Reebok's. You get sort of the secondary benefits better immune response by by secreting more cytokines. There's all these secondary responses, but it kind of all goes back to that that that that primary mechanism of action, which is breaking helping excite cybercriminals oxidized to free up the bond between nitric oxide cell and then restoring sort of natural cellular function. Okay. You're talking about skin health. That was like one of the first things that you brought up, how would that affect the skin specifically? Yeah, and going back to the difference between red and near infrared light, red light is has been shown to. It's often studied foreskin skin health. So if you look at like a Derm paper, for example, most of the studies will use red light because it most of that energy is absorbed in the epidermis of your skin. Whereas near infrared light has unique ability to penetrate into tissue little bit further. And so near. Infrared light is often used for studies related to joint pain osteoarthritis. Talked about it for like detoxification because of penetrate so deeply yet. Exactly, exactly. So that's the kind of the same same mechanism of action applies to both wavelengths. It's just the major differences, the depth of the depth of penetration. So when my little boys because you brought over one of these Juve minis I'm turning them into a little bile hackers. They have a little bio Matt many upstairs for their their warming and their negative ion exposure. And they've got a Juve mini. They're ten years old when they start to break out knack thirteen or fourteen, and hopefully their insulin levels are pretty stabilized and not doing a lot of vegetable oils. But you know, shit happens when when you become a teenager, when those balls drop where things happened to your face, how would this work on that? Like could they use some like this for acne? Yeah, yeah. There's a whole host of skin benefits with with red light. You'll you'll find some studies actually that use blue light for for acting related issues, but that's primarily bacterial induced acne. But any other former Mackey red red light is actually great for restoring healthy, healthy skin, healthy. Collagen production on everything from rose, rose Asia to psoriasis to reducing acne. Red light is great for that. What about the is two questions really for me because I've got, I've got these lights and I've always kind of wondered, but I haven't done much of it because I wanted to ask you guys about another guy as a captive audience here in my home. What happens if I look at this like will damage my eyes by turn around and stare at this Juve and then be like, does the hell my eyes at all? Yeah. Interestingly it is it has actually been shown to be beneficial for health. So there's actually a decent number of studies for a wide range of various degenerative disorders where PBS has been shown to be quite helpful. In fact. Referencing Dr Michael Hamble and he's he's a big fan of using near infrared because it's a little bit more comfortable on the I, whereas some people have to have a little bit of a sensitivity to the read. That's something that they can overcome. But for most people, we'd basically recommend they would start a treatment with their eyes closed. And then if it's comfortable to them, they they can open their eyes and take those links. Right, right. Direct show. So. So this new elite model that you have you guys, you're set up on my living room that has the ability shut off the red. So if I if that was bothering my eyes and I just wanted to treat my eyes and enhance the healthy is I could twist it to near him for it and just use it that way. Exactly. Interesting. Okay, cool. One thing to add to that is I would say not all devices are created equal. So like when you're submitting to FDA, there is a series of tests that you need to need to submit along with along with the five ten k. in one of those photo biological safety testing. And so you. Could in theory be using PB device that hasn't been tested properly that may not be the best the best case, what just kind of an unknown. You know, you don't. No, you don't me so don't Amazon prime. It necessarily just be careful. You know what about this one? Is this thing like FDA approved or how's that work? Yeah. Yeah. These the new device at our old devices were class one registered with FDA, which is, you know, relatively easy to get. You still need all the testing in place, but our new newer devices are actually class to clear which is a big milestone for us as a company, even though they fundamentally they're still delivering the same wavelengths with fairly similar power. It's just a big milestone for us because we want to get more involved in clinical studies and in order to get approval at certain clinical sites, you need class two approval with most of most devices that hard to do close to. I wouldn't say it's hard. It's the barriers definitely harder than or more challenging than than class. It's just the paperwork. The testing everything goes up with class to just put it in perspective class. Three devices are like heart valves, something that you didn't plant in a body. Typically we're class to is everything from something like the Juve that's not used inside the body too. You know a. Northop dick implant maybe could class device. So it's kind of a wide variety of devices, but it's the barriers definitely leveled up for sure. Using the pictures of the guys who actually are implanting lights under the skin, like LED lights and light. Tattoos, these grinders. The, you know, the human body as as wet wear and the Intel. These things called hardware chips and bio tracking devices, but they do lights. Now, Google light, tattoos, you'd see these these guys. I think they're just like basic LED lights that they're implanting is almost like an events of tattoo. I'm pretty sure they don't have class three FDA clerks. Probably not. Yeah, so so the other thing interesting about college and I want to ask you, you know, you mentioned thyroid health and I'm super interested in the idea of of weight loss. Well, but my friend, Andy Niilo who develops he's Klay masks the these is called Ali tour. It's like clay and Colostrum, these things you putting your face, he talked about how you could do that in do infrared at the same time. So I actually have been like putting on clay mask every Wednesday. I do this and I go shine the juvenile my face with that claim mask on for like twenty minutes, which sounds incredibly laborious. I know those you listening at one, but you know, you put on audiobook or podcast. You just kind of jam on your face. You won your twenty minutes of self love for your face each week. What's going on with collagen production when you're when using something like red or near infrared? Yes. So it's just it's been proven to actually these wavelengths have been proven to actually produce help your help your body Preuss more collagen. So that's typically seen in, you know, with with skin health. I mean this where you probably noticed it the most, but there is evidence that suggests that. Crease in college is actually is what helps restore joint health too. Just to just at eight something, but you're right. I mean, we're, we're big fans of what he's doing with Alatorre and I know there's actually some some some things that actually have been, even though the evidence isn't strong copper and green light, which I know he uses in some of his some of his his, his products have actually shown in hands the benefits of light therapy as well. So not only you getting sort of a natural collagen boost with these standalone wavelengths, but using something like that mask that has some of those ingredients, you'll get a good. This is crazy. What can be combined with. I mean, when we when we step back and we were talking about living room a little bit about how you step back and you look at all this science on pulse to electro magnetic field therapy and photo bio modulate and all these things bio hackers are doing now. It really comes down to the fact that we are. We're kind of like achieving concentrated equivalent of mineral rich water and sunlight, and grounding and earth, and all these things that our ancestors would have done. But we're kind of figuring out a way to concentrate those in these deliverable doses. Even when Moore say inside in our office, which I think is incredibly cool. Oh, yes. Super interesting. When you think about sort of the how our biological systems have evolved so fast, right? Because most of the stuff we're doing now, I mean, we certainly weren't doing it even, you know, fifty sixty years ago. You know, in front of like all of wifi exposure, bluetooth exposure indoors. Most of the time that was, you know, that wasn't the case. You know, fifty to one hundred years ago and so are by our biology's, can't keep up with that sort of that sort of technology or go to expect it is is probably not the best the best way to go about living. But you're right. I mean all this, you know a lot of the stuff that most of us use kind of hearken back to our our paleo Olympic ancestors. You know, and. Rabbit hole too much, but is there any evidence on whether or not this could mitigate either the circadian rhythm issues or other issues generated by excess exposure to blue light or two or facial light? The, they're definitely some interesting studies out there specifically on doing treatments of p. b. m. either in the morning or in the evening to help overcome some of those challenges, even even in related to UV light that we would get through the sun during the mid day. So what were the sun kind of gets a bad rap? Because I think a lot of times when we do get sunlight, we basically live in a cave all week and go out into Societa skin cancer. There's there's interesting data on workers who work all day in the sun. They don't get skin cancer. The people go in town on the weekends on the beach, they get skin cancer. Exactly. And there's some interesting studies on the skin actually being exposed to red and near infrared wavelengths that you would. That you should be getting in the morning and evening parts of the of the day that actually help both prepare your skin for the UV exposure that is certainly more harsh and has some different challenges for your body, but it's obviously necessary for vitamin d production. But then as you're getting those, those red and near infrared wave links in the evening, you're able to actually help restore and repair some of the stress that the your tissues have been on undergo during the day. Yeah, so red light at night blue light in the morning. Actually. It's interesting because I've been using this in the morning as well, not only to get my little release of nitric oxide and blood flow and activation of motto Kondracke at the beginning of the day. But because even at the beginning of the day, when I opened up my phone, I'm looking at blue light and artificial light. As soon as I go down to my computer and I start reading research studies and preparing for the day and writing articles and doing what I do on my computer. Again, big blast of blue light and artificial light to a certain extent from. Computer monitor. You know, I've done some things to mitigate that, like I use the the IRS tech software on there, and I've got, you know, like this monitor over here is an ISO monitor, so I can switch that to pay promote and and decrease some of the artificial light coming off the screen. But my logic is if I'm going to expose myself to blue light in the morning, and I'm not able to get out into the sunlight. I want to create an environment in my office that's as close to sunlight as possible. So I flip on the Jews slum getting blue light from the screens, but then I'm getting red and near infrared from the juice. So I'm almost like simulating sunlight in my office. Even these lights overhead, you guys notice that they're pretty, they're pretty bright. You know the those are those are blue light producing lamps from from lighting science or the kind of more biological LED. They still produce a lot of a lot of flicker and we can get into that later maybe about, ultimately, that's that's kinda my approaches. I wanna combine many different light sources as possible. My home, so I'm kind of simulating sunlight in the morning and not just flipping these things on it at night. Exactly. And there's evidence that even using red and near infrared light in the evening does does help your body produce more militant. So there's absolutely. I mean, my my wife and I were crushed out in the sauna last night football in the song. We're getting far infrared in there. But I mean, it's amazing sleep like a baby when you get some form of red light. You know, same thing upstairs in our bedroom, right? It's red incandescent bulbs or candlelight at night, and he sleeps so much better. 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And whenever I see weight loss claims that don't involve just like working hard and sweating burning calories, I sometimes raise an eyebrow and I've seen you guys talk a little bit about how you might get weight loss or fat loss with this Juve. Is there any actual research on? Yeah, there is actually some research on slimming effect that TVM can have a slimming effect. Yeah. And so I, I think it's a you can kind of be, as you mentioned it can be a slippery slope if you start talking about weight loss claims. But yeah, there actually have been some studies specifically around slimming. As I mentioned in a basically has to do with metabolism. Burn rate that your body's able to process fat in. There's there. There's some interesting studies using a red red light actually to help help increase that metabolized. Great. And like when you dig into some of these, some of these research studies, there's actually slides showcasing adipose cells and any more porous. So it's it's hard to say, is it weight loss? Is it more like contouring? In essence, these fat cells are striking. You're gain dispersal of lipids when when you're almost like vibrating the adipose sides. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it's it's kind of interesting, but your your point about, you know, is there any evidence? Actually, some of the more well-structured PB PM studies are kind of four, four weight loss. It's. FDA FDA cleared it for four sort of the slimming effect. So just pretty well, well-designed well-structured studies that do in fact showcase significant results with these those wavelengths of light. That's interesting. And I think that that whole idea of mobilizing lipids from fat cells as one of the reasons that you'll see, you know, I know I know the whole like detox world is full of scams and quackery, but you know three guys. I really respect in the whole like detoxification sector. Dr. Brian Walsh, Dr Dan Pompa and Dr Chris shade, they all talk about how you don't just one like eat a bunch of Clara or dump a bunch of charcoal into your body. You instead need to. You need to mobilize toxins than you need to enhance detoxification pathway DHS than you need to somehow bind or excrete them. And so this whole idea of mobilizing toxins from fat tissue, which is a lot of times where they're stored. That's where things like rebounding in those infamous vibration training platform. And saunas an exercise in movement and even use something like light therapy would be a way to mobilize fat cells during something like a like, like a detoxification program. Yeah, exactly. And I think one of the things that we've really tried to focus on is to get people to start thinking about their overall health in terms of, you know, the big, the big picture instead of just trying to think I have this specific issue and I want to try to fix that problem. That's it's kind of similar what we've have in in the whole medical field where you have this symptom, you're taking this drug to basically mask that problem in, I think to kind of get that change where people start to realize what, what are these things that we can do to get back to the way our bodies we'll function at their at their highest level, their Optum optimally at a cellular function. Now we can actually address all of these issues instead of trying to work the other way around. Did you guys see the research on on sleep deprivation and hormones, and how like red and and air for a light can assist. With your leptin and growing levels? I don't think I've seen that one actually. Yeah, it was really interesting. I mean, in indirect associates, weight loss, but essentially stabilization of appetite by modifying Grellet in leptin in response to to light. I think that's one of the reasons that that, of course, sunlight can be so helpful. Mitigating the facts of sleep deprivation, particularly the appetite, enhancing effects of sleep deprivation. But this kind of seems to do a similar thing kind of indirectly affecting weight loss of just like stuffing more food near gaping maw issue. So we've got skin. We've got weight loss, you know, obviously the sexual performance, we talked about that a little bit muscle recovery is another. Is that all just related to the collagen I I would. I would argue that it's probably more to do with the actual, the repair of tissue muscle tissue. So actually x. expediting on how how fast you body can respond to that stress that you just induced. In fact, one of our, you know, you're familiar probably with Dr. Charles Pollock win? Yeah. He's, he's recently been headed by a little bigger. I've never when we first met with him. It's like he's Jack. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Veins rippling through his his biceps. But no, he's recently been testing our devices. He's noticed even with a lot of the the competitive athletes that he's training, they've noticed pretty profound benefits in terms of how how much faster their bodies are recovering from working. I think it's more of a a repairing function more so than than collagen even. Interesting. Now, what about the whole idea of heat shock proteins? Because I know that saunas in the absence of muzzle loading physical activity seemed to allow for some retention of muscle mass. I've talked with doctor Rhonda Patrick about that, and I've certainly used that on recovery days to keep muscle on. Is that all just the heat effect or does light play a role in the development of heat shock proteins as well? I think they're really two distinct therapy. So the heat shock proteins are specifically related to those far. Infrared wavelengths where you are delivering heat to the tissues, and that really boils down to the way. The those wavelengths are absorbed by by the cells. So whereas with PBS instead of basically creating a stress on the body related to the heat, this delivered PBS you really providing more nutrients really in the form of light that are largely absent or basically don't contain heat that you would get from foreign Fred blinks which of these mechanisms at we're talking about would have been the reason that article came out. I assume you guys saw about the potential for this eventually being banned by Olympic committees or by WADA as a form of legal performance enhancing. I mean, that's the type of of study you would expect to be put out by your guys is industry right, favorable light. But I mean this this is in the journal of bio photonics is where it appeared on. They talked about how could increase muscle mass after training. Decrease inflammation, decrease oxidative stress what they showed in muscle biopsies wh. What's your guy's thoughts on that stuff. Body and whether or not it's legit. I I mean, I guess it was more of a meta analysis as more of a meta analysis. But I think when you when you look at how that was researched. I mean they parse down some like three hundred. I can't. I looked up to be specific, but they down some three hundred studies only to the most well-structured, five hundred since five hundred. I was gonna say five hundred, but I it was a big number and the Brazilians have actually done probably most the most research when zillions Brazilian. Yeah. Photo medicine researchers, they've done a ton with respect to muscle recovery in peak athletic performance, but it's it's largely those near infrared wavelengths in that that kind of at eight hundred two eight eighty nanometer range that have been shown to over and over again trust all of these all of these studies to be to have a pretty profound impact on the museum of sauna, and it's just far infrared. I'm actually not getting all all the benefits they've found in these studies if I don't have nearer. Yeah, it's just a different therapy altogether. It'd be do you need cardiovascular exercise versus like, you know, heavyweight liftings. Just different therapies altogether because those wavelengths are just we metabolize those differently and have different have different impact at a at a cellular level. So saunas are great for sure. I mean, there's definitely you know there's profound amount of benefits from saunas, but just different types of different types therapy altogether than than photo by modulation. What about stem cells? I have a lot of listeners interested in stem cells and now of used. I've used pulse electromagnetic field therapy on the long bones of the femur super easy while I'm just, you know, same thing as yanking down my pants while I'm standing there at the desk work in doing the Juve lie. I can just run p. f. on my femur and the the guys that showed me that from from this company called pulse centers, show me some of the very interesting data on m. f. and stem cells. But there is some research, at least from what I understand the photo by modulation stem cells. Can you talk about yet? There's there's definitely some evidence we're actually were Dr Anthony, j he's doing some some some bench lab testing right now at mayo specifically. With our devices in stem cells, but but at a high level, I mean, stem cells are loaded with Monica contra right, more so than other cells in our body. And so it would make sense theoretically that if you're since since the mackinac mechanism of action is at a mighty Conroe level on, if that stem cells just have more mighty Conrail, you get more a more even more profound effect with that. That specific cell type. In fact, a question that often comes up from customers is Ken pregnant. Mom use use PM and we're always, we always have to play that, you know, pretty carefully just because you're going to, you're going to be hard pressed to ever find a study where you can successfully enroll pregnant moms. I mean, there's, I mean what mom is going to enroll enroll themselves in a in a in a study like that. There's probably a few of them out there, but but Dr Michael ham we've referenced earlier, he, he's the arises that actually your mom and fetus would actually get way more benefit from just because of the overabundance of stem cells during pregnancy. So it's for sure. I mean, I don't wanna make any claims by no means, but that because of that core mechanism of action, you can sort of at a high level kind of understand why you need. And he more benefit accuse the Jews have a wine cooler, drink a lot to try everything. That fetal research that's a whole can of worms. That's really interesting. Now you also talked about something that I hadn't heard much, but I think it was one of you guys. I was talking to me maybe a paleo of extra something. Somebody was standing there and you're talking about like shiny on your neck for thyroid, what? What's the idea behind that? Because like I personally have had, I wrote issues in the past due to everything from combining Kito genyk diet, strict with ironman triathlon just beating my body with a lot of endurance mean like I've had thyroid issues. I have a lot of clients thyroid issues. How would this affect the thyroid? Yeah, I think it's interesting because you have a gland that's quite near the skin surface in the neck where it's pretty easy to get an effective dose of light to reach that, that that area. And I think because of that, even though you have kind of a similar process going on at the cellular level, you're basically able to have some systematic impact by by hitting those. The thyroid gland and some. There's some pretty interesting research to suggest. Addressing both hyper and Hypo thyroid conditions to bring that back into a regulated healthy range. Yeah, let the Roxy and I know on one study, they actually got people off lead with Roxanne using infrared. Near-infrared or far or it was. Near-infrared I can't remember the exact percentage, but it was a significant percentage of the participants that completely stopped. Yeah, Mathiot admits. Yeah, that's very interesting. Obviously, you know, we still don't want to tell you make an argument for not getting out into the sun, but when you can get it. I mean, that's kind of the advantage of some of these devices where you can get it that close to the body, get that concentrated dose, even use something like Juve many to directed at the neck and affect the I word activity. I'd love to see more people out there doing like any qu'ils oneself Quant and and just tracking like reverse t, three t three t four TSA agency, and we'll happen thyroid because you know you guys are some of the data from some of the docs you of using this and their testosterone levels. I mean, we're talking like what they jump from three hundred up to up to six hundred, seven hundred something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean one particular Dr Dr Toma I mean, I'm not. I'm not sure if you've met him yet, but practitioner in Scottsdale. I mean, the guy's jacked. He's like completely yoked. He, he's like, he lives the, you know, like if you could, if you could paint the perfect picture of health, it's like he, he. Loves it. And the one thing that was missing was like light in his his sort of his daily routine. He saw over the course of all this all this tested over the course of three. And then six months is testosterone. His free test and his was free test, went from like in the mid three hundred's too. I think in the mid seven, hundreds and then up again to like twelve hundred one of these anti-aging ducks. He, he works with a lot of professional athletes clients doing the gills. He would definitely have you met him? He would definitely not be taking like that. Yeah. Okay. So I want to talk a little bit about technology because I know that there there are certain powers or certain intensities that you wanna look for this Dr Michael Hamlyn guy who you brought up. I think he brings. He brings up the idea of a certain amount of Jules. I think it's called. They want to expose yourself to per day and when you do his math. Yeah, I think it comes out to like twenty to thirty minutes per day. Something like that would be like the sweet spot for photo bio modulating, but talk to me a little bit about how you deliver power in this idea of how it could vary from device to device and what you want. Actually wanna look for as far as how much of this light to expose yourself to. Yeah, that's a kind of a loaded question, but I'll do my best here. So filthy. I got coffee upstairs. She on bars TM we can just nausea all day and and fill the caffeine talk light, but go ahead. Yeah, so there isn't a great cost effective way for your average consumer to really test the power output of device. So you'll see some of these solar beaters that people use to measure devices, but what we've seen comparing that to professional meters, you can be off by forty fifty percent or even more trying to use it advice like that so that that might not be a terrible way. If you're comparing to biases under the same conditions at the same distances, try to control things the best you can. You can kind of get a comparative affect there, but really in referencing folks like Dr Michael Hamlyn, what what him and his team use your talking power meter. That's in the cost range in the neighborhood of two twenty five hundred dollars minimum in even with a device like that. You have to calibrate it specifically for the wavelength that you're testing. So let's say you're. Wanting to test the output on that jubilee, you would calibrate the device to measure the wavelengths at six hundred sixty nanometers, and then you turn just those wavelengths on tests those and then you'd have to calibrate it for the eight fifty turn just those on now at this together. So you know, it's not something that the average consumer is going to have access access to or be able to. Readily access. So I think when it comes when when you boil it down, you really wanna make sure that you're purchasing it advice from a reputable company that it's that you can trust that, you know, they're not just basing claims off of either wattage or using kind of these cheap solar meters as a way to verify output. So with the Juve light, the output at the surfaces of the device, you looking at an excess of one hundred Miller watts per square centimeter in to kind to convert that into the jewel measurement you were talking about, you're referencing earlier at equates to about six jewels per square centimeter per minute in obviously that goes down at, you know, with the distance, but our general recommended treatment guidelines, we recommend a ten minute treatment about six inches away from the device, and we found to ten minutes six inches away. How many jewels is I give me in the neighborhood of twenty to thirty jewels per square centimeter and it really kind of depends on how far off center that distance. There's these different, but I think Campbell someone Hamlin's research show like you could go as high as one hundred. Julie's yeah. So I mean, technically you'd be you'd be showing then you could. You could do like forty to sixty minutes on the same? Yeah, and that's that's what's interesting is if you're six inches. Yeah. And if you look at the other some studies that indicate skin health, for example, that it just four four to six jewels as affective. But as you mentioned for deeper tissue benefits, you know there's there's studies showing benefits at sixty eighty one hundred hundred twenty jewels person meter. Interesting. And I mean this this concept of the world in the world like academic literature referred is the by phase dose response. Meaning you know, can you basically trying to answer answer the question? Can you use use a can use PM too much where you actually you're doing. Harm. And we've we've gone. We've gone deep in down the rabbit hole with this with this topic, especially with a guy like Dr Amblin who's co author some pieces on this very on this very subject. And the reality is like the unique thing about m. with these specific wavelengths of light, it's really hard to do to to have any. I mean, there's really virtually no contraindications it's really hard to do damage on. You couldn't produce too many reactive oxygen species or too much nitric oxide. You'd have to really, really overuse it. That made analysis that we spoke about earlier the five hundred studies that were parse down to like the fifty best. I mean, when you look at the the amount of jewels that were delivered to induce a biological effect on those those subjects, I mean, you saw resulting even up to three hundred jewels per session delivered to muscle tissue. So yeah, but they had increase performance. But I mean, other learning downstream health effects. It's really, it's really unclear, so those three hundred jewel. So based off what we were just talking about, I mean that that could mean. What if you said ten minutes will give you like six jewels t- ten minutes would give you more. I mean at the recommended treatment distance ten minutes would give you more around like thirty thirtyish Jamaica. So it would be doing like a hundred minutes? Yeah, you have to really use it for a long period of time. Yeah. And so it's. That's one of the challenges within photo medicine. Research is the wide variety of the ways. Researchers have gone about publishing their their study. So you've got different different participants. You've got different tissue types different ways to deliver light different energy dosages. Delivered at different times of the day. There's all of these different variants, it's one of the problems. And so it's really hard to say that the by phase does who spas is exactly this. I don't think the evidence is really unclear for anyone. I think probably make a definitive ticket definitive stance there. I think the bottom line is one of those things where you want to listen to your body in make adjustments to what works best for you. So I've had people through us aspe- acidic questions, like, what should I do for this Pacific problem in, you know, talked with Dr Hamlin. He's like, well, there's, you know, there's no way that for us to know that we're just not far enough down the science to say that you need seven point five jewels per square centimeter and that's going to be the magic number. I mean, you'd basically start, you know, start at a reasonable level in there's there's not as Scott mentioned. There's not a danger, overdoing it other than you may find that it's it's longer than its then then you need. So in rare cases, you have some people that maybe have some sort of a light sensitivity, but, but outside of that, there really isn't any. Substantial research that shows that you know, you're gonna have problems if you do it for too long. Now, photo by modulation can be delivered in it from what I understand, either waves or pulses. And I know some of Dr Hamlin's research seems to show that a believe like this pulsed is more effective or better. Can you? Can you scrub the difference between the two in in what exactly the Juve is delivering, sir. So the bulk of the PBS research is based on what with his called a continuous wave light. So you're basically talking about a continuous source of light. You have a wave of it basically related to the AC power that's being used by the different devices. But there certainly have been some interesting studies using pulse light where there's a true on off of of the source of light via a laser, which is honestly more typical, but off that can be accomplished with. LED's what is is not clear is what, what frequency of this pulse is optimal for what different for a given benefit. So because of some of the things that are really yet to be determined there. The the bulk of the research supporting a continuous wave light therapy. We know that that works for a wide range of benefits. So that's what that's what we stuck with with Jew for now. Okay. What Sunday do you guys know continuous versus pulse? Yeah, it's continuous. I mean, there's there's different. There's different things in nature where you have a pulse defect. So even like the magnetic field from the earth, for example, you have this human residence that you actually have this pulsing from the earth's magnetic field. So there's certainly some of this nature, but yeah, sunlight you, you're looking at a continuous wave light. Okay, got it. And that's where the Jew is making is a continuous wave like, okay. Now, in terms of and this is a question, I get a lot health effects. So there's two things that I'm concerned about in my home right now. One I kind of alluded to these lights overhead. They're awesome. They're amazing. In terms of the, you know, made by this company called lighting science, biological LED, and I can have certain bulbs that have the complete absence. Of blue light or for awake and alert areas presence of blue light. But I recently had a building biologist, go through my home and these things produce a bunch of flicker similar to like a computer monitor that's producing flicker. So even if I'm not aware of it, almost subconsciously my retina, they're detecting that flicker and that long-term can cause everything from macular degeneration to brain fog in the afternoon, headaches cetera. It's kinda why I'm in the processes slowly going through and just replacing everything with incandescent or candle. Oh, LED or just frigging candles now for the Jews. As far as the actual LED is concerned, obviously it's LED. These are bunch of LED panels. So are they producing a lot of flicker? Like could this? Could this potentially be irritating to the retina or if you guys looked into the cell? Yeah, no, definitely. That's a that's a common question in in one of the things that we've done with the power supply in the drivers that we use is to minimize that as much as possible, the flicker the the flicker or some of his called flicker. Or rate or flicker ratio, which basically has to do with the the maximum light output into the minimum light output as you're going as you're looking at it like almost like a continuous sine wave. The main difference between the two, two to topic the topics there is your your lighting that you're using your household lighting that you're using to see things under all the time versus a therapy that you're using for a limited period of time to boost cellular phone chats upon Malik under it all the time. Yeah. In those even though it's something that we do design for, you know, there's, there's not any. PBS research that shows if you have a certain amount of flicker rate that you know you're somehow negating effects, you're not going to get the benefits. Yeah. I wear a blue light lockers and a lot of times like I'll even wear out here my desk. Y'all wear glasses like this? I think these are these are, you know, these are Swansea's they, they're kind of like glasses you can wear during the day that block flickering glare from monitors, but they're clear. So you look like a freak and you also fall asleep your desk. 'cause you're just blocking out all stimulatory light rather than a yellow lent or an orange lens. They're clear lens. Now, do these type of ones is blocked some amount of flicker if are aware these and have the juvenile same time the flicker. Like I said, the main difference between your household lighting is you've got a a most LED's people using just a regular socket where they had their incandescent bulbs Putin. They've just replaced it with an LED in basically what you have. There is a transformer. You're taking alternating current, transforming it to a DC current for the LED chip in in that process. Especially when you're doing it at extremely compact level for just a screwed in light bulb. It's not very effective at regulating that that alternating current pulse. Whereas when you have. FDA approved medical device where you're going through much more stringent process with the transformers with the drivers to where you can get a much more consistent output from those drivers to to minimize that. So if you were to do to minimize the alternating current or minimize a flicker to minimize the flicker, so we basically you're taking alternating current, you're converting it to a direct current. Oh, you guys do doing ACDC conversion. Yes. I did not know that. That's really good to know. That's the reason that I have not switched all the bulbs in my own to halogen because it's incredibly difficult. Even though halogen would probably be the most biologically foreign friendly form of life for me to have a all runs on AC current, and there's no way to just like retrofit every cannon, my house with with like a ACDC converter. You guys have built into the Juve. Correct. Okay. That's really good to know because that affects the other thing I was going to ask you about as EMF you know, that's the dirty. Lexi's the reason that I that I won't use some. Thing that that uses a huge amount of acu actress ity. But as far as the EMF produced by the Juve dirty electro bugai's tested that have you mitigated for what's going on with that? Yeah. So interestingly right around the same time, we were first developing the ju- prototypes, we realized that our oldest son was was quite sensitive to enough. So that really brought that on our radar kind of brought that home that like, hey, this is something important in not to go to down that story, but he realized that if he would just unplug as computer different electron IX, you know, he would sleep one hundred times better at night. So you know, since then we've gone to. Wifi, free all the time walks at turn the power off in her house at night foot. The breaker. Yeah, we'll flip breakers often limit that. So, yeah, to answer your question, it's something that were quite aware of in have designed for the even the original Juve has a very low EMF Al put. You're looking at less than one gals at the at the treatment distance which for referenced. You're probably in that neighborhood just walking through a typical house that has six mil houses where he started to get really concerned. Yeah, above three, I have this thing called and acoustic meter that Dr McCullough told me I should get. And so I just kind of it's kind of addicting. You walk around your house, you just test everything in front of everything and anything that goes above three. I get suit my my phone up. Not only does my phone. Go above six whenever I tested. But if I test my body, my body's zero right as soon as I hold my phone one hand and test my body, my body goes up to like three. It's crazy, like the phone, you. My body as an antenna while you're saying he's the Juve is less than one exam millions and we've actually taken some new steps with the with the new Juve cyst modular system to even further mitigate that. So we've got the power chords, for example, or using multiple forms of technology to shield the electromagnetic field from the power that's coming through that. And then even the drivers that we reference earlier, we are now using aluminum cases on those to further mitigate the IMF help from those Ma trying to. I'm proud of you guys, but a lot of people like in the technology sector, I don't pay attention this shit. That is they produce some amazing device that winds up harming long-term dude things like the electoral pollution or the or the flicker. So I'm, I'm glad to hear you guys are are working in some of this stuff man after my own heart. I want to ask you a little bit more about that that Juve model. But the other thing is that you know, for example, we know that Nanno structured water. The cells and this whole water-based matrix running the cells responded very favorably near a farm for light, meaning that like having adequate water being adequately hydrated, having like really mineral rich water, or even going on making Hoon's a water or structured water. You know two things that we don't have to route a whole too deeply into seem to be able to allow yourselves to respond more favorably to light. So that's one example of something. I'm very careful of, right? I drink structured water. I put like trace liquid mineral droplets in it or sea salt in it an and I keep myself very adequately hydrated, especially before I use the Jew before us photo by modulation just seems to enhance the effects even more. That's one example. But are there other things that you guys have found whether technologies or supplements seem to combine really well, something like photo by modulation by the based on research or your own internal testing hacking? You hit on on a big one in kind of go boiling back to what you referenced earlier. The really getting back to the way things. Were a couple of hundred years ago, so light, water magnetism, grounding. These are some foundational things. So in there's certainly some some powerful effects related to light and water in in our tissues and cells reference easy water. That's something that's that's fascinating to me. You know, we've had some conversations with Dr Jill Pollock and kind of quizzed him on some of these processes and how near infrared light in red light can have an impact on on that structured water moving movement of water through vessels and the absence of of like a pressure, Greg, excellent, electric chemical gradients, fascinating, four phase of water. You shine infrared light on the water and literally just like crawls up a tube water would go up through a tree for for any of you out there that haven't read that book. I highly all waiting in the show notes. It's a great one because I think some of us. Any any references. I mean, he really went out on a limb with his research related to structured water because he really calls into question kind of the established generally accepted concepts of how water behaves in in that research. I mean, you mentioned some of the things that just defy logic shining Knight on water in having it float through Nathen to which is basically just a hydrophobic surface. And you mentioned, you know, the other thing that that I think is fascinating too along with blood flow in how light plays an incredible rolled in those processes. So yeah, I think you've hit on a big one. I mean, there's there's certainly other things. Scott mentioned the green tea extract, and some other interesting benefits on skin helped level. With the things that you can have actually on on the surface of the skin. But yeah, I think a lot of you put green tea on the skin for, how's that work? Initially you'd think it has to do with the score, the antioxidant like the fact that green tea has a high high antioxidant or score, but actually there's way more evidence that suggests green tea enhances cell signaling, which is one of those secondary sort of benefits of red and near. Infrared light is ability to you. Don't drink it. You put it on the on the skin? Yeah, the grant. How do you even do that while the in the research? It was literally like cloth dipped in dipped in green tea and then put on the face into our. Yeah, exactly. So if you're using green tea spray or mist or something like that, in theory, you could probably do some, maybe some better benefits business opportunity. Up selling the shopping cart out a little green tea sprays. You purchase the copper is actually another one. Again, evidence is somewhat limited, but, but it's pretty tantalizing that actually copper can help induce cobbler's toxic. Not in not in certain dosages. In fact, you're talking about oral consumption. No, I'm talking about college. Yeah, like a topical. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, like Andy, Andy serum is gold team. I think part of the ingredients stack is, is is copper, and so that's actually something to do with the way setup from Seattle. Today's actually the criminal, the komo's fears inside of combs, the oxidise. How the copper element of and how that how that response to light. And so kind of super interesting but but yeah, there's some little hacks like that that. That we've heard people try and there's like some interesting early evidence that suggests they, they actually could work Mario Badescu facial spray with aloe cucumber in green tea. They sell it on Amazon if it's got a bunch of other chemical crap in it, but stay tuned for the. Coming out in this in the show notes for you guys want to try to green tea, green tea, copper. This Klay massing. We talked about adequate water, preferably structure with minerals in it. Any other little things you would combine something like a Jew to enhance the benefits? Well, I mean, just kind of going back to water Dr. Laszlo's who's a tenured professor at UCLA. He actually it's his. He's doing a lot. He's pint. They'd done a lot of pioneering research with respect to deteriorate depletion. And he actually fundamentally believes that these wavelengths changed viscosity within the mitochondria of our cells on helping our nanometer spin faster. And so so that's actually a little bit of a different mechanism than like exclusion zone water, but. That's sort of some interesting things to Sunday's feeling like anything that you would do per se, but if you are doing drinking deteriorate depleted, water, this stuff called lightwater. Yeah. Or or just doing anything in general that lowers your deteriorate levels ketosis fasting. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So along with light could actually help help even further lower your deteriorate levels too. So right, so so controlling glycemic variability may be using this primarily like an intimate in fasted state morning, putting a green tea spray in your clay mass copper in there. I like it. I, I love things like this that allow you to to to amplify the fact in in most. This makes makes pretty good sense. These are all things that would probably be pretty good if you're just going to go on Sunday as well. Sure. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, interesting. So you you set up this this? I thought it was going to be massive, but actually doesn't have a big footprint. This new ju- what's it called it a modular? Yup. A new modular system Juve modular system. So tell me about this thing. Yeah. So basically what we set up for you this morning is six of the Juve solo devices. So what what the flexibility that gives people to do is, you know, let's say they're, they've, they're hearing about light therapy. They've kind of come across a couple times and they'd like to try it out and they see you like it does really make a difference. It's something I could feel a in with. I totally believe in this yet. They can try out. They could buy one juice solo and then say, you know, experience some of those benefits and then they can add onto that later. Like LEGO blocks? Yeah, you can basically connect the devices together as you saw the they work pretty seamlessly together. So we basically have to kind of size building blocks if you will, the solo which six of those makeup the elite or that the full-sized system Orioles have a mini device. So you could start even with a mini to use for if you just wanted to treat targeted areas such as your face, or if you have an issue with a with a joint tour or a knee in then the devices connect via bluetooth to pair the devices together and control what just a one touch on off button. As you mentioned previously, we can change the control the wavelengths as well. So if you want to do just read or just near infrared, can you just table the bluetooth bluetooth on exactly in the way that you do that we just have a hard wire pairing kit. So similar to how you would get rid of having wifi in your house, you just hardline your computer. This is the same way. So we just have a system that comes actually automatically with all of the. The modular system. So if you get the elite boarding and other devices we're using multiplies, it does include that hardware pairing kit. It's all one big flat panel, but could I if I wanted to kind of like turn that into a square that would like step inside the just give my body from all angles. Can you that? Yeah, you can't. In fact, we have some practitioners are already set up with multiple of these elites or some of the smaller devices you can surround and get to, you know, a true full full body treatment in a very time time, effective treatment as a red light in near him for that thing will make. So he just blast myself with that. I like it. I can't wait to experiment. I'm gonna give my kids little Juve many to love it. I love it. And then my my little biohacking sons. Cool. You guys, this is this is amazing. I've always wanted to do a deep dive into photo by modulation of gotten so many questions about this too. I think we we managed to cover most of them. I know I also talked about a lot of things for those you listening in along with a lot of research, and they're actually is kudos to you guys because you've done a pretty good job creating a website that isn't just a bunch of sales spills, but but has some really good peer reviewed research on it. So I'll link over to the Jews website and also link over to everything that Scott in Justin, I talked about you just go to Ben greenfield finished dot com slash Juve podcast, just like it sounds but Juve just, you know how to spell this for going to Google him at all, at cetera. It's two two v.'s. So Ben, greenfield finished dot com. Slash j. o. v. podcast. Ben group bullpens dot com slash Juve podcasts and I'll just linked to everything over there. I believe we have a discount code or something like that for the. You somewhere. I have trouble keeping everything straight when it comes to codes, but we have a code, don't we? We do if you if you use the code Ben at checkout, you'll get some. You'll get special bonus bonus gift there that will do what's the bonus gift people are going to the rea the reason because you're still coming up. It's it's the, it's the green tea body spray joking aside, it's right now. It's going to change probably on a quarterly basis. We'll keep. We'll keep it fun. But right now it's actually a hat actually that we brought with us here today, but it's a kind of a Jew brandit hat. It's pretty from, it's not cheap hat. It's actually like one that you'd be thoughts about versus one of those laser that you see in the back of airplane magazines. It's, it's not that it's not that it should do idea for you to you guys sent me a blanket. Do you remember that? I do. Yeah. I just got back from camping, and I had that. That's like my blanket. World. You guys should do that as a gift sometime and we that blanket rocks. Well, maybe in the future, we'll throw that into off this blankets that I have my wife last summer because I call on to bed and blanket, and I put that blanket underneath my other blanket because it soft pledge just like the one of six. Thank you that blanket. I'm not kidding as a little bit of a cult following. Blanket, and we made known in spray that with green tea and people wear. Disappear freak out. We'll fellows thanks for coming up to the greenfield compound. Thanks for sending that new Juve modular elite thing at my office or living room, look sick. I can't wait to use it and enjoy the rest of your time here in Spokane, Washington. That's right. It's beautiful. It's been honored to have to be with you. Thanks, appreciate it. Then greenfield, along with Scott Nelson, Justin stray sine out from Ben greenfield fitness dot com. 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What It's Like To Be A Corona Bride

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What It's Like To Be A Corona Bride

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Yeah Karuna righty her own Zayed. Yeah Corona Corona and whenever also same? He's going to give everybody in update what it's like in real time when it's like to be a corona bride because these are scary times it yet. Weddings are getting canceled coach. Hal is getting canceled. Tom Hanks's getting corona virus. Not just getting it. He has it. He has it on his wife. It's almost like the Cronin. Virus picks like the exact person who's like Y- Lucy Whitney Cummings tweeted that. Yes yes yes exactly. I didn't I thought it was like they it. It picked the one person for us to have to actually take it seriously which you and I and been more seriously for longer than I jumped on the boat of taking it seriously Yucky and then the world was like because the whole thing like I even in the beginning when everybody was like. Oh the flu has this many DAX and we have like two cases yet. That's true but that's you have to look at the rate of it. Yeah Changing Doubling. 'cause like that's really what matters because it looks calm now but in a week. It's going to be riled and that's what we saw everywhere like in. Italy like the day. At least all right we've got. We've got a chill. We've gotta stay home. Yeah I was taken seriously because I read twitter. The fact that I read twitter gives me a lot of anxiety. But it also shows me like realities because you have actual people tweeting about their personal experiences so like it's not a news headline that like It wasn't a news headline for while that like they were they were rationing that the spirit by I was reading about people's threads of people who like had all the symptoms had been to like places or had contact with and they weren't able to get tested and I think that like the biggest issue with this is that the United States government has tried to play down what the problem is so people didn't really take it seriously and yes. It's true that it doesn't really impact young people as much and then it's not as bad of a of an illness but it is still is ten times more deadly than the flu for the elderly population and also we spread the virus. So like that's why at this point when it's it's not just one person and you can't isolate the cases that's why like community like community action basically has to be taken and we all have to like kind of separate for like a few weeks. That's like really weird but like there's this whole thing with like flattening the curve which means that like either the the rate of infection can go up exponentially like very quickly very soon in the hospital system will get over Ron so even like a mild case or any other issue that anyone has a heart attack or a stroke regular things that would overload the health system so that would make a really high death rate compared to like in countries where they have gotten under control through like measures. That bill really extreme. But like you kind of have to do that yet. But that's what happened in Italy. Is that their hospitals are like operating like two hundred percent him. There's the rates of mortality are going not from krona but thrown all other like diseases or or whatever causes death. That normally wouldn't if you had a provider that didn't have corona or had a bed to go on. So yeah that's that's the thing and get the funding the curb. It's like just basically socially distance which is so funny Malaysia usually discern all we talk about is cancelling planned all the time. We're getting what we wanted an ACH people talking into story complaining. That there are you on. I am so far from board. Maybe like maybe I'd feel differently if wasn't dealing with like the wedding but I'm so far from I work all day. I talked all day. I'm like I'm busy. And either like a more credible rolling. I'm not I'm not. I'm Comin' home a feel safer except for the fact that rusty works in a hospital and beyond that I feel I feel like looking like we said it's not it's okay if he and I get it As long as I mean. It's not a game for him to get it really because you can have it for up to five days or you could be completely symtomatic and like not. Oh you had an effect other people because he can then affect the people he sees in the hospital. It's okay for me to get it as long as they stay away from. Everyone actually like recipes dad or anybody who hasn't who's over sixty. I mean definitely like causing some anxiety I mean. I tried to stay away from twitter as long as I could like. My Dad is sending me stuff and then like when my dad who is very very common research person started telling me like stay the fuck home a lean. Just just do it and then like sending me all this shit. I tried to stay away from twitter because I find twitter gives because there's so much it's really hard to discern what's and what's like fact or like what's you know what. I mean so it was hard for me to find stuff that I could believe. And then and then it sort of the same way the virus was was growing exponentially then there was so much more kind of serious information out there that you couldn't deny so right that's an yeah. I mean how are you feeling? Oh my God it's like I've been having a massive panic attacks like literally like I okay. Here's the worst part of all this. You know I've always been like afraid of the apocalypse you know I'm always planning for it. I've always like what's it going to be using the tax. It'd be like the like I'm you know I'm always prepped. Like we'll be some Maggie like Brennan Germanium leg mattress. Yeah I yes. I'm a money under the match gal but like not literally. No Bobby Arner accidentally train. Yeah so so I and I had huge beer and like I spoke to my my therapist about this several times throughout the wedding. There's going to be something to happen. Then like when there was a whole thing with Iran like in the beginning of January. I was like there's going to be a cyber attack. No one's GONNA be able to fly. No one's GONNA be able to get anywhere knows we will do anything. I've been hearing a thing interfering with my wedding for adver. I have it like Green. Didn't need it like I can't just have a nice moment and like I do that. Something would happen. So the worst part of all of that is that is the conditioning that it just did to me because it like all the time. Everyone's like don't worry it's going to be fine. It's like no. My worrying was not wasted. I genuinely had something to be worried about and look here personally. I didn't I didn't guess it would be a pandemic that just like wasn't on my list but in the conditioning like it's happened. It's it's by chance that you worry about having it's not. It's not like you validate you build it and it validated. It's like it's like oh I wasn't overreacting. Like and then it sort of puts bean it puts like on all of my worries and my and my overreactions. It's like Oh maybe. I wasn't overreacting that. So maybe I'm not overreacting now so it really just did a number on that whole situation to be honest like I know this is like to see the silver lining though. Is that like you? You experience that type of anxiety it happens you get through it and then if you the next time where it kind of. It doesn't seem like such a catastrophe like if ever you anticipate doesn't happen. Well I will say the real silver lining is that I what I remembered about myself because I hadn't seen this part of myself in a while is that I actually thrive best in an extreme crisis or in Game Comfort I started. I thrive in extreme comfort and extreme threat. The problem is in the middle where? I'm like overreacted on inside. No everyone see when you tell everyone about her phone call yesterday and we were so we were on a call yesterday. Sammy had some news to tell me that she'll get later. We're on a conscious hold on hold on Mike Costco Order and I'm like what did you get? So she's doing like a virtual boxing like via audio and she's like I've got some like leary. Peop- burn beaver got some fruit or Avocados. And then I got three pounds of cream cheese. I'm you though. They didn't how wet but we do think he's in this out. I was just. I was just illustrating how you do. Well IN EXTREME GO I. It's weird like I am able to like reach into resolves of maturity that I don't normally have to be honest with you like like like I have like we already like basically to to break the news we vote. We cancelled the wedding like we were postponing it like. This wedding is cancelled. Not Yeah. That's the news. I mean we don't I'll get to why in a second but like the second that like we decided as it was okay. I woke up yesterday and I had several wedding items. I buy to do list like to order net new. Yeah I'd like all this shit and this is how fast this whole thing is changing. Is that by like six. Pm We were like we're canceling and it was like in the works and now we start telling everyone and then we started telling everyone and I immediately went into like okay now. Where are we going to do the wedding? Yeah I went to a venue this morning. That yeah like I was right before this like because I wanted to see it when it would be crowded and like before in potentially closes you know what I mean. So instant to consider that you that you're telling you this is considered venue. My friend is an event director at like a museum in New York and she was really helpful and she's like. Yeah whatever so I mean I feel. I don't know if I'm getting what money I'm getting back yet. But my planner is like working on it and she's been like very understanding about like the whole you know it's really like it just stopped like they don't really know what to do yet but I have the insurance also just in case but we're going to try to get back as much as we can. We might still use the DJ or some of the other vendors if possible Like I would still want to use my planner if she like if I could. It's just unclear. You know what I mean so but I also like I'm making provision like. I also contacted like another planner that I knew like in passing like I just. I'm trying to speak with many people's possible just to like like I just immediately wanted to act like I started like finding out like okay. Like how else could we do it? What can we do? And we'RE GONNA move to New York because it's like even if this calm down. I personally think it's going to be like a month or two to be honest. I think this is like our nine eleven like high dove. I feel like it's going to be bad for the next two weeks. Like people are going to have to stay home and then it's going to be like people things go back to normal after but it's still going to be a sort of in the air yet. Like people will be well. I'm hoping you're right about the two weeks. A man's on our office or sisters works in like I WanNa get the right word in it. I think it's like an infectious disease clinic. She says two weeks. We'll be the peak. That's just that's just like one person's opinion. I don't WanNa like go by that. Like that's just what lake she said. Some people think it's like I don't know I think it's GonNa take a while also so that it might he couple months so we're thinking like maybe the wedding will be Jimmy. We are Tober like it's a kind of depends but our but basically the reason we had to cancel it and like make it so definitive is because obvious sister is coming. Liz in Israel a lot of his family was in. Israel are rabbi in Israel. His grandparents are one of them is coming from Israel. The other elderly unlike like her husband. He can't he couldn't fly now. You know what I mean. So that's like a ton of family that can't come plus like what fun is a wedding when everyone's like. I won't touch anybody like you know what I mean the food. I don't like you know got. It's all on a jet for. I don't have this repaired Gaelic. It steering and I also thinking about the fact that like if if we the Utah like and we're among like so many like older like over sixty like their chances of getting it from one of US whoever might be carrying it which is why. Yeah they could get it. And that's like not a risk worth taking also. Both my parents are over sixty and like how my dad had cancer twice like long like he had bite this if it's really bad in the healthcare systems overrun my mom. My Dad was gonNA commit to the wedding. My mom like obviously take so many medications like she is so much change. She has an inhaler like cheek. You know honestly for the first time in my life. I'm so happy she's GERMOPHOBIC recluse. I can't even tell you when you hold on. I wish I could send you. Could people could see. But like denise rusty's mom has been texting US pictures of her care package. That rusty has to pick up from the house which is literally like as if she sending care packages to camp. Except it's all cleaning you'd like it's like mass amounts of wise saw like so much hand sanitizers so much so like literally. When she took a picture she put it in a bag. Put on the chair to rescue. Get it today. I agree beyond doubt that the Morton Williams near our apartment is getting Shipman of hand. Sanitizer today after the podcast. I'm tasked with going to pick it up. I also yeah somewhere. That hand sanitizer has to be like a very high percent alcohol base for it to actually be affected because some aren't and the most effective thing is like really scratching your hats with still real not like bullshit. Oh I've been like my hands are so dry you wouldn't imagine like this. His obviously picked up my OCD. Like the fact that I told you I put a clorox wipe in my mouth like okay. I'll just before I was just going to visit my potential new wedding venue and going to starbucks to pick up coffee before I was in starbucks and I like picked up a straw by accidentally tried to open the straw with my mouth for a second and I got so nervous that I had I I I was holding my Coffee Cup with a lysol white because that is how I hold things in public. Now that I actually like put the Lysol wipe like on my matt like in on Spa. This is only like right here in the corner. Put the light here treated and then I came home when I brush my teeth. I SCRUB MY HANDS. Like that is like an every time. I leave the house. I like disinfect. My Shit that I talked when I left like I take a core. Put it all over my wallet. Yesterday took cash out of the ATM. I Clark cash clerk. I know I alkyl hall white. 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It's here like I feel like now it's here it's here and it just now. I know what it is and I like 'em here and it's guess it's fine but like my therapist is giving me lots of like encouragement and stuff No on air with everyone okay. I'll good Ang's okay. Here's a good anxiety exercise that I will say this. I wish from the weekend when I put on my story while I was in Beaver Creek which I'm so happy. We got that trip in just under the wire. Yeah she okay so I was like having a panic attack so I texted her. I'm really anxious about corona affecting my wedding think's GonNa cancel it on where it's going to fall apart. No one will calmer place we cancelled. I'll be on the hook with these. We won't even have to have the wedding where away skiing anniversary. And I can't even enjoy it because of this. So she takes me back and her her message to me is basically about like mindfulness. Like like that if you just kind of like embrace in the moment like see what it feels like like. Just be where you are. That's like the most calming thing basically and just returning your mind to like the president. It's basically mindfulness without being like. Oh you have to wait for ten minutes so this is her response. I know these uncertain times. These are very uncertain times. And it's so very hard to not know when your wedding will how willow won't be impacted for the most part. I hope keeper turning your brain to the present and the experience of ski over and over since of course. The rumination won't change the outcome. Try to focus. This is the good advice. I try to focus on censor accused what it feels like to move what it looks like to ski through snow. What it sounds like. If it helps develop a backup plan for what you WANNA do Blah Blah Blah but the all of it not all you can do is give yourself mental workout with all the refocusing on the president that you could foster so like as in China do that with like other stuff like when I have. Bruce just like he's skier like he's so nice like you wanna video like really feels like to have him at like just so. I can like actually appreciate like what's happening now and not be like frantically like what's going to happen what's going to happen. Yeah let's see your therapists sent that advice like the mindfulness. Yes at Saint were is it. Do you feel like it's effective. I do feel like it's effective but you have to like do it all day and that's very practice. It's a practice. Yeah yeah no I know so should we? Should we read some questions from people asking all about? Yes you your wedding Just overall people were asking some questions about like precautions. In what we're doing so people asked are we? Are we still taking the subway or go to the gym or were you going to be buying our food? Are we cancelling our travel? So are you taking somewhat? No no no no. There are people who are still working like there are law firms that are non closing down. Yeah I mean I think that personally. That's irresponsible if a company like could work from home I think that they should be because they could be liable. They don't tell people go or like at least at the very least if you're not comfortable room the pace that this has changed. It's like if you're not ahead of it really behind it. That's sort of what I like and I know that on Sunday night like you and I were going back and forth about lake should be closed. Do we do. We want and sell panic but like I've only become so much more confident that decision because yes. We're very lucky that we can work from home like we do this. We're like built for this. I mean it's obviously better to be in person but like we are very lucky. We're not we're very lucky. We're not like in a service industry. There are a lot of people who can't just postpone stuff like they have to go like go to their job. They can't afford to not and like that's what's so scary about the situation and what potentially overload the health system like. That's why it's up to us. I think to not really be going places because like we don't need to go. I feel bad for a lot of the businesses specifically like a win. That require foot. Traffic added like a lot of rice. On releasing both towns Janssen's like nail places like like really just so many different places and then and I was reading that they were Different states are are changing or a different company. That big companies are changing like People hourly workers like the sick leave so that can be paid during that time. So I mean there's I never even I honestly thought of that like people like even if they did get sick. They're afraid to go to work because they can't afford a kid that to me is like. I didn't didn't think about that until I was reading all about it. Well that's that's where twitter is so like that's where I got kind of like I was able to get the full picture early. Because you have someone who's like you hear people like throwing out the that seem wild in the mainstream but like they're really happening to people and like they're like if you read about the people who's like bosses like to have told them to go to work even if they're sick or said that like their sick days we'll get extra six days or something like those people are going to spread the virus and that's why the system will become over run and like not to connect this back to our keep it one hundred campaign but this is why voting is important because you want to have in a crisis you. WanNa make sure that you have the right people who are going to do the right thing in a in a crisis like I watch bill cosby. Oh go on. I watch build Abbasi. We're on the news yesterday and he totally downplayed it and I'm just like are you kidding? Me Like you are good instore responsible in like five hours at the Joe and then he had. He seemed they're responsible right. Well okay next question. We're taking the subway. We're not going to the gym. Obviously traitors coming tomorrow. Oh that's nice so obviously the Peleton and yeah. I did it today but like the last few days. They just haven't been doing it and I'm fine like I wanna do it more when I can't because I and I'm playing hard to get with my like it's there I'm like I have so much time I can get it at any time and then like I go but finished but definitely I'm not going. No offense to any JIM just like can be safe for. Yeah it's it's the IT'S NOT SELFISH. It's not prevent you from getting it. It's too if you're a carrier day it is for other people. It's for the good of the whole thing like everybody. It's like it really is a crazy thing that everyone in the world is on the same page or needs to get on the same page that we're all doing this each other's benefit like so that we can all have not. We minimize the damage of the next six months to a year really. I think I'm going to try to go for more runs because I am right near Central Park and like I don't think being outside is so bad. No it's not it's not airborne so it's era borer. It's not it's not at all. No they downgraded rusty told me from the hospital they brought it down from like air assaults to only draw plants. So you can only get it. That's why like people wear masks to protect them from. Let's say you're close to someone someone could when you talk like you could get your face but also protects you from touching your own face and you can get it into your mouth or nose tech something and I also Google Google play concerts. Get it until I'm assuming afraid to Mosier oversight I mean I read it. I tried to read a bunch of different sources but I read that even though it was transmitted originally from animals animals. Can't like I mean I get. I don't know if this is been updated. But it's Google was the animals can't necessarily get infected but if you are shedding the virus like there's viral shed if like he can go on them. The same way can go on the floor and right so passed it. So they're like a carrying ask passably but not really like it. Just it depends on the situation. You'll get it. Can you define the term viral shedding? Because I think that's very important that people start to hear more. Are You googling right now? Because you're pause. Do you need me to go and I can vary sitting. I just talked about it. I'm sure rusty. Talk to you about it because I I read about that a lot. Well first of all viral shedding. It's like it's like when it reproduces. I think well guess what I think. It just means when you're when you have the virus in your like getting you're getting rid of it because I read that on average people who have it in fact two to three other people. Yeah I remember. It's like one to two to three on all on viral shedding refers. To the expulsion release of rile progeny right so after they reproduced following successful reproduction. During a wholesale infection once replication has been completed in the hotel is exhaustive ultra resources in making viral progeny. So basically like little babies. The virus begin to leave sell my several methods so like the. I'm assuming physically comes off you right. Yeah that's how I envision it setting well here on with the dogs. It did come from animals but I think it was because someone eight the mall with the virus not like they were hung out with the animal with no. I know but that that says that the that's saying that the animal originally had right. Yeah which is what they think anyway so every anytime I walk saw I clean. Her is a smart. I'm going to do that for now on. Yeah I never knew that 'cause I clean them regardless of the virus how're you doing? Much buckling urine is on this. But how are you doing with the touching your face? Ivonne a little better. I'm trying I'm trying and I just can't okay. I've been trying to any time. I touch an elevator my knuckles but then sometimes I like to be safe touch my face. We only my knuckle folk now. It's well I'm like I'm just trying to stay away from the eyes nose mouth and ears like if I touched my cheek like acknowle like I'm trying but trying to say like in the Neck Area I've been aware of the fact that or the far face you're doing it on your face like itches all like and that's why we're constantly touching it like there's always something like attach like it's the nerve endings are very thin and so there's it makes you wanna just touch your face. I never noticed it yet. I had an get a lot of changes to society cannot of this more changes. Obviously the longer it goes on and I think that like when I started. This are nine eleven. I just not in the sense that like. It's a very big deal that shifts the way things are what I mean is. I think they'll have things will change. I think it's possible that if people get used to not shaking hands like we won't shake hands anymore. It's possible that people are going to be called like much more sanitary firmness. Maybe doing whore isolated like I could see. People becoming more isolated. I could see this if if we're doing this for like a month or two like more things becoming automated in certain ways like new businesses. Maybe coming out of this like I think that there could be a lot of changes from this that we don't even let me see. Yeah my favorite tweet me was the one we also posted. It was like now. We'll actually see which meetings could have been like and I'm really enjoying the fact that we can. We can get this done recently and virtually like it doesn't all need to be this long because every time you meet in person it's prolonged by thirty minutes. Yeah Tangents. And you just turn your. I don't have time for this shit. We are on a phone sweet about how you'll see g mail which phone call going to any valid even more. Oh Yeah No. That's about me I. I had a conversation with her yesterday at an assault. Smells like Oh that was my version. Probably feeling self conscious honestly I. Sometimes I'd just rather not put things always writing or sometimes you would wanna put things in writing. It's pets. I agree okay so other people ask. Are you buying more food? I bought more food. Continue to more food and I'm going to buy some like cold medicine and chat hold medicine. Okay let's smart. I didn't buy anything. Vang waiting. Speaking is pretty systematized question. Are you in your travel plans? So my birthday is wrestling and rigging birthdays on Tuesday. And we're all going to the Bahamas but I've message the hotel. And they were like there are no cases in the Bahamas and I'm just GonNa like whereas Mayor Port and what are you really? What are you gonNA wear the airport? I'm probably GONNA wear gloves and by ask my mom where he has a restaurant so like she. She went to a restaurant yesterday and she was wearing gloves lake winter. Who IS OUR SURGICAL GLOVES? I think surgical. I saw a picture Australia. Panir sure. Certainly your mom were latex gloves to a restaurant. Yeah also your I mean. He doesn't care look gloves. Oh okay that's insane. No it's not insane amazing glue. She's been a stay safe. Here's the thing I for once I trust. Sorta like really stay safe like. We're so lucky that we are homebodies. I don't know obviously gonNA handle it like he needs to be moving. My thing is like wearing gloves and you just have. I guess you don't have to wash her hands because you just take them off and throw them out but like you can still face the great concern touch your face. It's really up. The whole the whole game is cleaning your hands. And what not touching your face because if you if you even if your hands aren't clean if you don't touch your face or less at risk than you're like less at risk personally any higher on Tuesday we were because it's birthday on Tuesday and we were all going on Broadway and they emailed yesterday saying They're postponing it until September. Oh Yeah I cancelled a theory. I was supposed to go see Chicago tonight. And we're not going. We're just like today. Cancel it the sh the show they they. I don't think they have but they might. We just she's emailing them and calling them and no one's even like answering my mom's trying to call jetblue. It's like changing light. No one's during any it's like. Yeah that kind of still. 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We went to our benches brides group on facebook. And we're reading a bunch of threads in. There are a lot of people asking questions because he's not the only one going through this. It's like a pantene weddings. Also during this time so I'm GonNa read one question from the Group L. Abacha's I'm getting married. Rebelo Italy in the Mafia coast on. May Twenty ninth as many of you probably know. There was a recent outbreak of colonel virus in northern Italy. And they've discourage travel that region. My wedding is in southern Italy. Certainly no travel closures for that region. After the press conference Masisi yesterday both my fiance and is parents have reached out a senior concerned about traveling to Italy. Apparently a few of the older wedding guests and people with children are saying they don't know fill it will be safe to travel. They said that many reports are saying Rome. Airport is likely to be closed although that hasn't happened yet and may not match the airport half my guests or use it. They also said they think people won't want to have layovers at major European airports because of the international flights. My fiance aren't worried much at all. But we're a healthy young couple with no kids. The real concern is that many are winning. Contracts have caused that we can't that we can get a refund or at least If we cancel at least ninety days out would just coming up in a week. Neither of our parents told us to cancel but we feel like they want us to all but they're not saying it also. My mom is a pretty cautious person. So I know that were just a personal vacation for her. She would have canceled by now. The question is what do you do? Should I try to reschedule? Cancel the wedding. That saved the money even if things may turn out Seeing could lose out very large also is inconsistent with me. Keep everything track knowing. This means so my family won't be able to come. Sammy give a toss what we what should she do? I mean it's tough because it's like basically June and where April may there's like two and a half months so that I think she should probably cancel and got her money back and that way she can use the money towards another wedding in Italy later in the year. If it's possible trialling book for like September October I really think you should get your money back as soon as possible It's like the safest thing to do because even if things are like fine like Italy's right now in a major crisis and like I don't think they're gonNA necessarily get it one hundred percent together three months and even if they do have it together the virus is still going to be spreading in Italy. So there will be. There are the concerns. That older people like I think that those concerns are just like going to be something. We're living with for the next like you months to a year like I don't. That's not what I would say. You should cancel and you'll get your money back. You could do the wedding at a different time. The exact same wedding EAH I. I would also agree like it's better to be safer and hunting worrying. It's not worth it like. It's like I literally just did it. It gets really heartbreaking. But you when you do of your wedding. It's going to be much more satisfying because it will be at a time when people aren't panicking gay over a pandemic like really puts a damper on the mood. Yeah for sure so. Cancel if she hasn't already visit seems like she'd probably this like you days ago. Can you imagine wanting change? Yeah right right like the fact that like so much has changed like tells me that like you. Shouldn't you should be on the safe side. Everyone should be on the safe side because of how they're happening yet and we're not saying just like Parnell just be North Carolina's yeah paddock thing. It's just it's just you. You have to do it you need to do. I don't think canceling my wedding was panicked. I think it was like a reason to move like to. We spoke to our parents and they both were like it. Really just makes more sense for you to cancel and we like once. We saw that. That was true. It was like we're obviously GONNA cancel it also to me doesn't make sense to spend that much money like the way that you spend for a wedding or don't whatever to spend a considerably more more money than a normal event for something that you're not one hundred percent happy with so like if you're you're you're worried about you're going to be worrying whole time. They're going to be stressed on. If people couldn't be there. You're going to be worried. Did I make the wrong choice? It's better to like just postpone so that you can really spend one even if you lose some money. Spend the money that you are spending on a day where it feels so much less like a burden or like a giant ball of anxiety about an wetting. Yeah and here's what I was thinking about it. I was like okay like it sucks. I'm going to now be probably engaged really along the I'm like I'm very done being engaged. Like I had a wedding plans if the star like it's Kinda wild but personally I happen to like wedding. Planning second of all second of all like this is a very scary thing and like we're very lucky. Even those of us whose weddings or cancelling. We're very lucky that we have to be with our partner. You know what I mean like a partner in this which is very special thing like not like that sought to be taken for granted and I think that like ultimately this probably will make your relationship stronger in a way. That's Kinda of how I see it like. It's an opportunity but at the prices because you have to work together and you have to like the Olympics. Together it sucks. Yeah Okay so. Let's ask at answer. Some other questions from the facebook group or on interim because we also asked the bride instagram. We asked the esteems randomly pulled some of the best. Okay so any. Us based honeymoon ideas. We WANNA do so. These are wedding. We WanNA do Europe with Roman Empire Spreading. We are seeking alternative. Zeke as you all know. My mom brought that up. She's like remembers e Com like. Oh God don't Yvette like don't you dare compare this Zeka? Remember when everybody was at rest about Zeke and still like what come when it comes to travel and like now who has people use e can excuse should be like Like laughing I don't get I don't even understand like I haven't heard about in a long time but can I say I'm very excited. That the person who was on Obama's Ebola Board or whatever his the task force is now going on Joe. Biden's Corona virus taskforce and. I am happy about that to see that that is happening because like I think the biggest issue with this is leadership is that no one is like saying blew up dumping up like being brielle about it. But you don't even ideas on Jerry. Expensive like she was going to Europe and gas but that's pleases really expensive but yeah and injuries. It's a luxury play. Snap is nice. Depends one to go to the Bahamas like that's you. We hardly haven't there too. We currently have a trip to Anglian. Bart's books I don't know if that's going to happen. I think we might have to. That was supposed to be our honeymoon after. We cancelled our first honeymoon to Italy and Spain Morocco. So now oh my gosh we. Are you going to cancel it? I don't know I don't know if we should cancel it within on the airlines. The the the flight was so cheap because it was from Florida so we I have to fight a far. It was one hundred dollars on the way there. I'm glad the St Martin. Yeah and but the hotels expensive and they have like a thirty one day cancellation policy which is Kinda soon. I'M GONNA ask them if maybe they would like the one of them has the other Ones Council. Yes they can waive that policy. Where where else could people go? They could go to Miami. I guess you one Mary Farms in other expensive. Legroom this stuff yeah. I don't know I haven't checked. You know you go in you go to Canada. I'm in if you're going in this summer you could go to banff. It's really really pretty there like there's really pretty blue really glue lakes than it's like a nice place. You could also WANNA winter. That's obvious Avi wants to Montana. One year he said it was beautiful. Big Sky that's cool. Why among the Kardashians edens regime Island he awas island South Carolina. What about like the key? Tease the Florida keys. You could do that. I think Jonah's going there soon weekend after me you could go to Mexico. Yeah I love my idea so those are some idea. Okay have anymore. I'm trying to think we'll try to come up with. Maybe we'll put on the bride's instagram. If you're in New York there's this place called scrivener's lodge in the catskills. If you want something really Loki key or not. It's not like it's not very nice but it's not like a trip if you are New York base. Yeah one of the Hamptons. You go to the Hamptons okay. Should I ask guests if they are still coming or pretend it doesn't exist? You should pretend you you pretend it doesn't exist. Yeah it's not really like your job to chase down your guests to like A. Ask them their plans. Will I feel like people aren't saying anything you don't think like you would email like a mass? I don't know why would if you're on canceling wedding like say your wedding was in New York the same the same date that it was in New York. What would you do? We would have waited on steam for Hallam probably until like a few like probably for like two more weeks. What about like all the people flying in so we would have waited to see? How long that lasted? Like if the issue with Israel people which is like a huge chunk of people like is that Israel has instituted something. Where if you leave the country and you come back. You have to be quarantined for two weeks. So that's their policy and like don't know how that was really GonNa work out for all those people so I know it depends who would still com- if the critical people would still come. That would be an like it. Depends on what the status of the Israel quarantine is in like a few weeks Shouldn't yeah wait. Go go go ahead. What's question I think I think it depends on the situation like it really depends on your situation like is it? Destination are people flying? Like I think you can also email everyone. It'd be like we're monitoring the situation. Please let me know if anything changes right. Okay I'm a question about quarantining statelet the Israel makes you quarantine yourself who is or is it like you know who's regulating the honest system of quarantining. I Dunno I can ask someone. Actually I'll try to ask someone that I made the mindset in Israel. I do believe people would do it. But let me ask you have to court lake if you you have to quarantine yourself. If you're sick we know someone in quarantine I'll tell you like real guaranteeing because she knows someone who's who has it Corentin like she social distancing. Here's can them. She's quarantining herself. He has it or she isolating herself. She does not have it. She's in her home. And if you're not showing symptoms you're allowed to walk around. Or how do you like you can like not be like isolated in your room? Wander freely in the hall. But you can't go outside. The worst part of it is like if you're so say the last thing you WanNa do be along like that. That's the status car and like you have to take here as you see that I become such a baby when I'm sinking due links to me. I really hope you don't get sick. Did you ever seen the movie though? Ball Sel Balto. It's a movie with the dog sledding. And they get the medicine for like the kids know. It's an animated movie. It's based on a true story about like the depth theory epidemic in Alaska in like the year a long time ago. They didn't have like plain. There's something and basically had to they like Ron and medicine and all these kids were Khardina. The cartoon keep in mind so you have talking dawgs. It's agreeing. You have all these kids in Kardashian and these dot dog sled team has to bring the medicine to the case. Not you're thinking care of by your dog okay. It was Exxon know about like all these kids in quarantine in the you see the dog like so sad. That like her owners card. She wants to save her owner. So badly is so sad to say thank. You could watch it. I'll take it out down a flight. Please look outgrew. Wait area at me. He wants to leave. He's like without their corn gene. You would be like all right. Let's go to the next question I feel like all of these are basically shit. I'm getting married in Tuscany. How do I deal with early? Rally yet. You gotTA cancel. How do I politely tell people to stop sending me news articles? Ooh This is. How do I tell people to stop sending me news articles? If I'm already nervous enough I did this. I was like you're adding to my anxiety. Please stop and now. He's the person known it or the person that is actually my friend. Who's events director at the venue? That like us and she was kind of like the whole time she was like she was like. What are you trying to help? She liked does events that he and she's like. What are you going to do? But she was making me more anxious but ultimately now like I'm grateful about me on it. Yeah Oh my God okay I have to tell you about the venue because I actually think there may be a sign that we're like supposed to get married. They're like should I say like it because it's more description of the place like put it this way? The Party of the wedding is literally be in like a library clear. How great materials? I The room I sent you that room. That room is a library like I went in there like people doing work off party. I think that is a sign. Also there's a statue of Abraham Lincoln outside and I call Avi like honest Abe joke we and let's and based on the name you. You love history we I have. There's there's like a constitution exhibit. There is an Oval Office exhibit. I might post a picture of her. Yeah well this is what should I listen yet? You didn't tell them you're creating a travel ban from your apartment for the next thirty days okay. Let's ask one. Let's do one more question for me on facebook or are you comfortable going to the gym during the spread of Corona? I live in a big city and I've stopped going Jim altogether. Is it possible that gyms are going to be good for the next? Several weeks can already feel myself gaining back that we will. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are like I'm not really interested in going. Jim Finest time to be very UNMOTIVATING. Like just being hold time makes you WANNA know like we're very lucky that we like to be home. I will say that some people can handle it. I liked to be home but honestly I feel like I used now. I feel like I've changed since like back when I was just obsessed with being home. I don't really love it as much and I mean I like to like I just like to be comfortable. I like going out and about and not being able to have. It makes me kind of questions honestly. I feel like as long as I can do one to two errands day outside for a few minutes. I'll be okay on run. You should run outdoors like you're GonNa get it from from running outdoors. I don't I might swim in my building or re obviously Hilla my hands are so dry and I've been thank you. Think chlorine kills it. I would google. He thinks that like I don't know how foreign aid and your poise. 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Today I've had a history of over exercising binge eating restricting it usually a fitting our special occasion I'd restrict over exercise to ensure I didn't gain any weight or feel negatively about my body image while today because I have refrained from nap behavior by going to there being gaining support. That is not a thought on my mind. I had my usual breakfast my strengthening workout and I even had a second bill by the time I headed in for my fitting at two PM. Such a different where I'd be if this was five years ago again. So grateful bureau podcast. I look forward to hearing realize every Sunday. You all the best and you read a win from the facebook group that. I saw yesterday that I personally loved hearing it from not from the guys are tomorrow. We're facebook group. You're not in it. Go so this person writes. I don't weigh myself at home but this morning I went to the doctor and I've lost thirty five. I have to say. I don't think I could have done it without this podcast. The amusing Gessler such a great resource but also just not feeling alone listening to seemingly. Lien said what? I felt my whole life in the time that I've listened. I've not only lost weight by run five KS signed up for. Tuncay joined a running club and done about seventy five orange theory classes. I've also had wine ordered set made pancakes on Sundays and eating birthday cake in the office. Not Cute Wow. That's Great Ernani skill win. Because she she said she didn't just talk about like weight loss. She talked about the always. She didn't find gays signed up for half marathon. She like eight cupcakes. I liked it. A lot changed her life she changed. She's like Britney runs. America also changed so much podcast but okay. What's your winds? Here's some good news that I learned the tax chat. The World Health Organization has announced that dog could not contract Corona Virus. Yay in real time. News here's your even. You don't even get it so I won't be able to be like the dog and also after all that Dogs Win Win Bruce's what my way and is that. I put on my instagram this weekend. I'm very good at skiing or not very good but I got. You did look good. I got like thank. You got to a level where. I'm satisfied with myself and I had just such a great time like this is how good I wanted to be that I could enjoy it and not be terrified on like a normal Really hard about it so much better to ski out there and feel confident in yourself like it's better than in New York City because it's just ice and you fall it hurts Buckingham at it's dangerous and you feel out of control when it's icy so not really good. It was a great time and I got better and I'm happy with that. Could just as much thank you. My win is I feel like I'm very proud of myself for it. It's that I so. I went to Boston this weekend. Oh besides my my rock climbing which obviously was great but but actually it was a big win for me. I was very scared to do like my ne- not knowing holding you and I was very surprised with my strength. My brother was like cheering me on. He was like wow. That wasn't my win. But I'd just like to Brag there My win is that I felt ready to actually Do Lisa Hames like ditch diets for good fundamentals. Course I did the whole thing on my on the drive back to from from Boston and I'm trying a whole like mindful eating approach this whole week and it's been great like I'm Gonna I'm GONNA run there. I'm not gonNA say anymore. I'll give you guys a a larger update when it's longer than the day this amount of time because I only said to myself it's only. I'm only going to do it for one week because a really short thing listen to it. I know it's a good week. We'll not really no because your home constantly food everywhere which leads and you're not like distracted to the point where you're not around a kitchen so it's not like good food. It's not like like nothing here. That great or at least for me. It's all sort of like Ma- you divide cream cheese okay. But like but I'm gonna eat that with like nothing rate you know no Bagel like do I need to remind me all the things you can dip incriminating my friend. My friend just gave me a doughnut from daily provisions. To make me feel better. So I've known that now you will. The the Nice thing is. That's a great obstacle win I started her course but like then I had to get more back into the wedding diet so I did. That's great I love her. I didn't do it I said to her right. I'm not going to do it until I'm ready and then I feel like it's such. There's such a difference. I 'cause I knew like I when I read intuitive eating like back when we did it I was like whatever are like you know you read. It might going back on my diet or like I read the fuck it died. I'm like this is great like you know awesome I can't relate to being this in this mindset so then all right I'm but I think Lisa's thing which I'll talk on another time like if I continue to stay on this but I think it's it's before it's like a level under Would have eating. And I really think if anybody's considering like maybe pausing died and they don't know kind of where to go. I really I really recommend doing it. Yeah me and yeah it was. It was just a great few days and I feel better. It's definitely like really helps like she. I think she's great. I really love her like her. Whole approach like philosophy. Everything just like the way she talks about food. I think it really is something achievable rather than like so far from something that like I could wrap my mind around the good part and the this and the disappointing part is like. I don't really need to be as intense on a wedding diet right now but I'm also just also disappointed because I had to keep bugging doing this like I thought I was. I literally had started like basically like minimum like really eating much more protein and much more cleanly be all like all like March first and now leads. You can be like in balanced mode. Yeah I'M GONNA go crazy like there's no need no need. Maybe you could do the thing now. We have all this time at home. Do I'm telling you do the course. Only when you're ready but maybe after your writing now. They started the chorus. I just I did two weeks. Of course I have the third week. Of course yeah. That's when I when I'm more in in it all like when I'm more when it's been longer than week or I feel like I've really made a difference but I feel like there's so many tools in there that changed your perspective and that's a laugh for me to say because I feel like I've I've I know so much more. We know so much when it comes to this like died industry a nutrition. Like all like all of it so anyway. That was my win. I'm proud of myself so I actually think her method has a lot in common with what my therapist told me about. The feelings like feeling what it's like to be somewhere like. I think that that is similar. I think just scale you're assessing like your internal feelings like do and you're really sitting with them and you're like do. I really want to eat this or like what do I actually want to eat? What is my body asking for? I think it's like a similar skill to be able to just focus internally and like and ignore the external stimuli for like a second or not ignore that like be so present in them that it's not like Frantic Chemi could play our cell for me. Was the shift of focus before everything I ate was a focus of. How many calories was this? Or how many points was it or like you know. Is it on plan and I thought that was good right. But now when I'm shifting the focus of like to I want. How does this taste? Is it good like not even do I want it like I do? I like it like Rhino. That kind of thing and just eating a little bit slowly just a little bit and then my what you what. I've noticed that I recognized new things about myself like like when I start to feel any type of shame or guilt. And what happens when that happens? And it's you re like I feel like my brain is like opening very very slowly and being more aware of things about sort of disordered eating That I thought were kind of normal before yeah and yet and a huge part of that is to well. I'm sure we'll do an episode later but like I made a whole list of goals. Mindful eating goals for myself that I didn't put in the beginning. I'm a notebook. Which was the officials for the year? So I like an addendum goal list or I will. My next step is to cross out official goal and replace it with this. When I go funny Oh. The officials like weight loss. I say yeah the weight my fish. My original goal was like loose. Tammy it now yeah. I'm a different list right and I might cross it out physically cross it out. It's going to be guarded. Yes it will be okay. That's great I've wanted to. Yeah I just wish they could like not care about food. Although honestly I've been I've never know how I've never been less focused on foods in the past like two weeks. I will say that like the Air. But you don't have to care about if give me lose weight or not you care you if it's filling you or like if it's nutritious rather than like. Is this going to make me pain right? Yeah exactly do so so gorgona updates. Sammy's cancelled or wedding ring levels not like for good. It's for now. She's yeah for now cancelled for now. And we're proud of you collectively the DSP all the DNC communities in alien we're proud of you and Guys E. D. S. God and email us any of your like if you're going through running. 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The Morning Toast w Jackie & Claudia Oshry - Controversy, Beauty Procedures, Sparking Joy, & Staying Real

The Skinny Confidential Him And Her Podcast

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The Morning Toast w Jackie & Claudia Oshry - Controversy, Beauty Procedures, Sparking Joy, & Staying Real

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I also want to say these fit in your purse, they're so cute, and they come in this vintage cigarette box is associate again. That's more play dot com. Promo code skinny twenty. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire fantastic, and he's a serial entrepreneur of Irish mart cookie. And now Lauren Evert's in Michael Bostick bringing you alone for the ri-, right? Major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential in and her. As a society, we're all sort of trying to figure out where we are going to shake out on this. Like politically, correct discussion so many people are so PC. So many people are like anti PC and say, things just to say them. And so I think a big lesson for us has been like we always want to be, Reverend, unfiltered and speak our troops. But, like where, where do we draw the line, the point of our show is only to be positive? We're only trying to make people laugh, get through the day workdays are long. It's terrible all that stuff. So if at any point, anything, we ever say, upset, someone like that's not the goal, so we're going to own the fact that, like we said something that upsets you and we're going to try and not do it again. I hate when people like upset people and refuse to acknowledge just someone's upset. It's okay if you meant it or not. But, like just a knowledge, I see that you're hurt whatever. Happy Tuesday, guys, welcome back to the skinny confidential him in her show that clip was from our guests of the show today. Claudia and Jackie Autry. So we had the best time, recording with Claudia and jockey, and I feel like we have a little bit to discuss before we get into the show though, Michael, maybe let's talk about what happened this week. It was what recording this right now? This intro last night was Lawrence birthday and we thought it'd be fun to do a little to do something a little bit different Lord out. Maybe I'll let you explain it to that. Because I'm gonna blunder there someone just like I've talked last night, fucked last night. Okay. You could call it that, okay? So sex with Emily came on our podcast episode hasn't aired yet, and we committed to playing this game to spice things up. We're always looking to spice things up. You have to relationship called sexy stranger. If you don't know what it is. It's basically role playing mixed with. I guess. Mix within the Israel plan. It's rolling. So basically, you dress up as a character you get into full character. And then you go separately to whatever bar restaurant that you're meeting at because you casually bump into each other your idea is that you're, too sexy strangers that have never met before. And typically, the guy or the girl or guy, and girl, girl, you go, and you pick up your significant partner as if you've never met them before, really hot. It's all you're supposed to develop like these backstories. I had a weird. My name is Ian, Don Ross. Okay, what do you think? Like I don't even know. Okay. So yesterday on my birthday, I said, I wanted to go through with our commitment and do sexy strangers. So I like I always have to have to do everything like over the top, I need intense. Give me anything. Don't give me boring. So I went out and I asked my friend Alexi who works at the DP Hugh house to do a wig. We got this black shiny human hair wig. And then he cut it into this blunt, Bob. And then my friend Kelsey did my makeup, and it was super smokey. I'd like with a nude lip. We did a big overland. So I had these luscious lips. And then I pushed my tits up to my chin, basically, they, they were so up. Okay. So then I did like all black. I did a leather glove like I was it was going. Now my characters named Michael was taught Yana, and she was a Russian working girl, and she was major. And she, she lived in LA New York and sometimes Santro pay. Well, okay, this is my problem. You. A whole team that helps that helps you this hair person you a makeup costume person. I didn't realize how hard you were committing and I listen, I've known you for a long time. I should have known. What do you mean so debt, my talent, and like in, like show up with some shadow? So all just take full accountability. And saying, I didn't realize the full commitment now that I know I'm we're going to do around, too, because for multiple reasons one we learned a few things in this sexy, stranger, one mournfully committed. And I didn't I was in like a weird leather pants cow in. I had a bolo tie. I couldn't figure out what my backstory was like olive oil guy from Texas. Or always a commodities trader from Hong Kong, I couldn't figure out about cheating on my wife or if I was out exploring the new world. I didn't know what I didn't know what your story straight, which is so annoy story was completely not straight. But then here's here's the part where we really fucked up. Learn we booked in intimate dinner at a restaurant that we really like, and it was favorite restaurant in the whole world in his hole in the wall Italian place in the problem was that there's no vibe in this restaurant, there's no music. It's quiet sitting literally, you can bump elbows with the people next to you. And so more and shows up looking like in aggressive, working girl with a with a wig, and like a trenchcoat, and I'm in leather pants and a bolo tie. And the people next, what the hell is going on there, like, in a nice blazer and relaxed it wasn't the right venue, the venue that we needed to do learn, we needed to show up to like a random hotel, you are sitting at the bar, and then you get actually pick up the person you don't you don't end up in an actual intimate dinner. And so, I think this is important to talk about before we get in the show. If you're gonna do sexy stranger. We really we really want want you to use us as a resource because there are things we would do differently. We have to do it over again, for sure I'm gonna we're going to do it again, if we're going to talk about it the second time it'll probably be after the episode that airs with Emily, I am tapping our audience right now. I need some feedback needs them back. Story I need some costume advice because I don't have a whole team like you lease. Give him some help. But you could there Sony things you could have done. Like I walked in, and I was like expecting you to do something really creative, and you're sitting with your hat that I've seen one hundred times, which is like a cowboy hat with a bolo on and get the vibe now. I didn't realize how hard I was like, what are you doing? And then we sit down at this table, which was the wrong table. We needed to be at the bar. They're willing show leg and drink MARTINI. No vermouth. You know what I mean? What do you think the people of the couple next to us had an ear horn to our conversation because they're like, what is happening? And so Michael start stuttering when I walk in, because my tits are so pushed up my nipples are basically, in my salad artichoke to be specific. And he doesn't know what to do, so he starts. I didn't want to. I was at a loss for words. I was like, do I pretend I don't know. You do. I what do I didn't know how to go? I think you have to listen, you have to have the bar sitting, and you have to have the opportunity as the man, or the woman to go and pick up like that was the whole goal is like I was gonna show up as a stranger and pick you up somewhere. And then, you know, one thing leads to another. Maybe there's a dinner, maybe it's just straight to the to the hotel room and sex who knows. No, I, I'd like to because I could take her leave the food, but I didn't have that opportunity. Next thing I knew we were just sitting at an intimate dinner with with two. Random people. Next time we deal at which we are doing it again. And I'm setting a date. So you commit to it, and you can get a whole crew to do whatever you need. I need you to really step it up one hundred notches we're going to do it at a bar. We're going to have a hotel room booked, and it's really going to be sexy strength, bringing in a team that time do you remember back in the day when Ashton Kutcher did that show pranked. Is that what you call and you had like the earpiece, and there was the guys in the van waiting outside like you're going to have the monitors and they were like feeding him stuff through his earpiece? Like that's what I want. I want to let down. I need a whole Taylor. I need I need a whole team. I want everybody involved I need. I need to like be coach through it. I just need more of a setup. We got it. We got it. So, so next time we're going to dial it in. And so we ate dinner in our sexy stranger outfits. I was full costume. I'll post it on my Instagram. So you can see what Tatyana looks like she had a blunt bang. It was fun. And then we went home and we used we'll still broke up a piece of that last month. Yeah. And it was fun. And you'd still you told me you're like I love my wife. Listen, here's a look at a little sweet from it. I think a lot. I get the sexy stranger. I get the idea behind doing something different shaking it up. And, you know, having something some flare into the relationship, but for me, like I like my wife, I like the way my wife looks I like, who I chose him. I'm turned on all ready. So it was it was okay. But I would take you the way you are anyway. Smell the way you look so sweet that you think that I guess I'm not trying to escape my life makes it up though, sometimes member when you grew a long beard. And I said it felt like I was cheating on you. That was hot or not. You're not if you're giving me green light to grow the beard, again, I could be could be into that. But you can grow the beyond again. But we gotta have like a lot of sex if you grow the beard because that was fun. That was spicy without guys. We have the ladies from the morning toasts on the show today. If you guys haven't heard of the morning toast, it is a morning show for millennials their secret. Facebook group is let I'm in it, and what I love about them as their community is insane. They are so good at bringing people together. They have this thing called camp toast where everyone goes to camp, and they get to meet each other, and do all these different activities little Rosa. It sounds fun. I feel like we need that for the skinny confidential. But anyways, if you guys haven't checked out the morning toast. It's a morning show. Like I said, you can find it on YouTube, and you can also find it on the podcast app. It's so funny and very relevant. Lots of celebrity news and the girls together are just the best team from the perspective of. Dear media and kind of being on the other side of a network. Those two ladies are doing it, right. They built a hell of a show a hell of audience held a community and they're just getting started. So check them out. We love collaborating with them. Jackie has at Jackie L problems on Instagram and Claudia is at girl with no job. I'm sure you've heard of them without a further ado. Welcome to the show. Claudia and Jackie before we get into it with Jackie and Claude. We want to tell you that is about peleton. All right. If you're like me, you don't like leaving your home to work out. This is why I am so freaking excited to tell you guys about the latest from peleton votre is so innovative the New York Times that it's like having a personal trainer. Come to your house, whenever you'd like. And this product really proves that it's honestly anything from running strength walking stretching clauses. 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I tell you that I told the Lydia arm Sierras folks are I smoked. True. But I'm going to see her on Thursday wear. She's doing this new company accent, and I'm going to one of the events over there with a thirty podcasts us. Yeah. You're very excited. You keep talking about. Well, I'm just I'm excited. We know it's been a while and excited to do this. Yeah. Michael, does this thing when he's in New York where he's like, so busy, and so many meeting, you know what I mean? It's like all day long, I wore this vest today, because the there's this whole thing going on this whole country Patagonia makes the Wall Street vessel. The tech guys where the best in the in the Wall Street today, they're saying they can customize and so, like, say your company or whatever. But what's happening is. Now they're pushing back and saying they don't they gonna customize for like consciously responsible companies? It's all the guys are freaking out 'cause they're gonna lose their custom bests tells narrow on EBay, a taking away from your best. Okay. Everyone wants to know we recording. We add recovery. You never know you know, everyone wants to know you guys is beauty skin and wellness secrets, and my audience, and I know your audience is the same way like specifics, which is tough because I just pretty much like forget to wash my face, and I wake up and everything's fine. And I'm really blessed and every now and then when I'm feeling like really dirty, I like wash my face and stuff, which is whatever I find at the drugstore. But there's no regimen that I could do a swipe up for it's honestly, just knock on what it's gene, genetic we just have a fine skin. Like, obviously, I got my problems. But for the most part, it's just a cross my fingers, and hoping everything works out. You're just wake up like this with even textured glowing skin will not like this, but a little uglier than this. Okay. Well what foundation are you wearing it cosmetics? I love it has Addicks yet feel. Okay. About wearing foundation. Yes. I totally like people my age like like to save nations for people and it's not it's God's gift. It's gift. Once you discover foundation. It's a whole new world for old people do good for Asia. They're like, I don't need foundation cake, you like he he'll join a human cake. He just don't get a K one. Do you like the eliminator or the regular one eliminate? So do I, I hate feeling like crunchy face? You know what I mean? I hate Mike how I look right now. I hate feeling like Madda fide products. That's why like sweater and I feel like it's okay because it just looks like I'm going like the look of sweat Michio better than like a crunchy, Mattie. Look, I don't like that are related to this because yesterday I was wearing makeup. Yeah. Back up a little bit of this show on on Yahoo. Right after we saw, and it doesn't look like a glory, disco ball, if not you did look all like crunching everywhere Christie, and I got a little weird Al MacOS face this, this, this brush been on like the makeup that they like and makeup departments on TV. It's like not sanitary at all the music need something under those is I don't think there's like no. You did. They come out your hair, you could have lice. He doesn't let anyone touch that Harry fucking through. Threw that out for we've seen as hair fucking helmet. I it's not moving. It's a rough pave somebody like threw a baseball me. I'd be fine being. Is that like, what is that gel is a rough piece by Redken this? He doesn't like to shout it out because he doesn't want people to go run out porno. I totally I don't know you should buy stock, and then give it a shout as oh, you mean like the huge package. That arrived at our door the other day that had forty rough pace in them. I order I ordered bulk at one time. It's like Costco of what my husband does with Cologne. But who colo- I don't know why worry. Rata Luna Ross. I think he's worried it's going to be discontinued, like it's not. But like you can also get it on EBay, if it gets continue to luxury people who live in LA, have, like we don't here in New York, you can't just have Cologne in the kitchen. Just barely fit all the toilet paper in my apartment, hold on your apartments. Look, so cute on story. They aren't cute. They're just not large. I like that, though, there minimalism yet, but it's also like where you put your stuff. That's an issue and I'm not a minimalist neither like stuff. I don't I decided we talked about this yesterday. By the way, talking about sparking joy literally texted, Jack, right after I was like we need to clean the apartment. And if something doesn't spark joy for you. Please get rid of it was like we'll talk about it when we get home. I was like, does it spark, joy I find this, sparking joy to be problematic, and I know that's not a popular opinion. Why thing I am like nuts? Like, there's nothing in my house that doesn't need to be there. Like I really am so clean. Like I am a hoarder to the gods. Ben loves to keep every tissue from middle school, and he's like it's spark shirt and get out. Get it out. Ben is always looking for memorabilia, I'm sorry. It's in the trash like. I don't keep anything and I still have things in my house, that don't spark dry, but I fucking need them, right? Likewise, vacuum. Yeah. A broom doesn't spark joy also like this beautiful closet now that has these beautiful like shoe walls, and I literally buy shoes like that. I'm never gonna wear, but that I'd like to see on the wall. It just feels at the wall and makes the world look like I have this great collection of shoes. Whereas if she was every day, so that doesn't necessarily spark joy, but it makes the place look good. You know. Okay. Okay. But can't we get like a broom with a white, Matt handle that, starting joy or like a vacuum that totally the best about things that I hate, and that does not spark joy? I have a vacuum that sparks joy a little Sheikh. You actually. My dustbuster also sparked that thing. Yeah. Conundrum with this sparking joy thing 'cause they're things that sparked joy to me that piss off my wife like west, and so then she has to throw it away, and that's how she's sparking joins a weird place here where if I'm you know, maybe it's sparking joy for me, but pissing her off h case it's just it's fucking good. And you have a roommate. Hear what's up remote? He got this thing from doc Johnson that you masturbate with. That's like I don't even know how to describe this. Remember those things we used to play with that are like. Okay, the jelly, weenie, Jack jock off with this on text here before we don't want that on my bedside interviewed the doc Johnson, founders, and they brought in a giant case of sex toys into my office with the opposite spoil the lightsaber. That's it's. Parking joy for me. No. So so that wasn't sparking joyous at my ass sparking joy for me personally, but it's factoid for you could spark. This is the conundrum that, I'm you know what else doesn't joy for me on the subject parking. The ring that this ring is not sparking joy for me. In general, tell them about the ring notes this ring. It's not. I don't like it aesthetically. But it's bore like keeps your heart rate, and your sleep pattern all this stuff. So it doesn't work. I don't like the watch where because this is less. It's not. It doesn't look the best. But it's it looks better than the other things I've seen brace a heart rate strap on this is like the most. Now, what the worst is, though, is I have to hear every fucking stat from him. It's like, oh I slept. Seven point five hours today in my heart rate's. A little low. I'm like I don't care. No in like a month. There's going to be some study about how those things give you cancer and all the stats are wrong. A hundred percent that always happens. I'm fucking stealing my ring a mood ring a yeah. It's, it's gonna go cool. I would say that I like knowing where I'm at. That's why I have my planner. I like seeing like everything I started tracking my food that was really hard. But if I did it for me, it'd be into your food with let me look at my phone job, we, we need to know like a you guys like the wedding. My fitness, pal. Oh my God. The wedding like what goes on. The, the, the first one we did this. It was the morning breath, right? Oh, that's g. Oh, gee that was over a year and a half ago. I think I use you guys obviously running Dir media. I use you as an example all the time. Amount. What are we? Well, we gotta get their samples of what not to do. No, I use you as of how to talk to other podcast. I said, this is exactly how you build community. And I point to a lot of time to you guys. I think he has done amazing job. But I want to talk about what that transition look like, because we live in a time, where people are so quick to jump down people's throats and blame and say, there's no room for basically, there's not a room for protection. For air can make a mistake and learn and grow like you're you made a mistake, and you're dead. Exactly like you see it more and more like that happened with you guys. How James Gunn they got him off, now they're bringing them back onto guard into the guts. You see it all the time having heart with all this is what I wanted to kind of get your opinions on it because I feel like you guys came back, even stronger like it was like with, with pink. Yeah, I offer the best of the pink, generally better. The name is so much better now in hindsight, like everything happens for a reason, and we're really happy, the way that things turn out. But, like we now have such a unique perspective like our job is to talk about things that happened in the hobby editor, and when things go on with Kevin Hart. Everyone so quick to judge. And sometimes we say stuff that's not the most popular opinion, but it's like just hold on a second. Like we went through something similar where everyone thought something of us, but that wasn't the case. So, like, maybe that's not the case with Kevin Harlan. Let's take a second look to feel like we're better off. Off human beings. But also commentators because of what happened. And we have a more unique life experience that allows us to comment on what happens in the world in a more like knowledgeable way. And I think that if you talked to anyone, like entrepreneurs people in business, they always say the biggest lessons they learned came from their biggest failures. So you can't have growth without learning from past mistakes, and now like everyone wants to hold. Everyone accountable who I think is really great. And in certain instances, is very, very important, or the day, we're all human beings, and as humans we are inherently flawed. So part of being a human you're gonna mess up your favorite celebrities going to say something that you don't agree with can you forgive them? Can you move forward in like the way that people move the way that we've moved forward what you're made of will determine your career future? Like if you this is tough industry. Totally talk all the time if you wanted for us. We talk a seven hours a week in those seven hours, we we're gonna say something that's gonna offend someone live on edited. Right. I mean that's unique. Don't have the luxury of cropping things out. And there are many things I would have loved to crop out these days. Based on your podcast, totally that holds us accountable to, you know, it's like we learn, and I think that what the toasters really like about the morning toast is like how we picked up from like a very public awful like mess and made do with that. And it wasn't ideal. But now the way in which you handle yourself, and like, in tough times like that says a lot about you. I think can I ask you personally, what it what it was going through your mind? What it felt like when when that was all going on. I felt like I wanted to die. And I for me it was like the world was over. And I really like I couldn't handle like, what was being said about me online, and I couldn't put my phone away either. It's like I read everything every comment, and it was so hard. And I literally just wanted to die. And I was like this industry is not for me. Like, I'm going to figure it out. Just like do something else with my life. Like it is to tough out there. I thought I had skin. I obviously don't I don't want to work in this industry anymore. People are mean I thought it could handle it. This is my time goodbye. Everyone, I'm gonna go become a CPI. What are you telling this to Jackie, and what's, and it was I actually kept a lot of it in, like I just I. Talk without just screaming. Yeah, yeah. For me. I'm we both are very like insular but for me, I, I always think and feel like this too shall pass. And I know that at the time, everyone said, who was like in our corner, trying to make us feel better. They were like this is for the best everything happens for reason, and it's like it's easy to say when something's happening, but it's it's hard to see pass the cloud of doom. But for me all I kept thinking of was like, okay, what's the next step like just one step at a time. Like, what's, what are we going to do in, in the first week out? We're just we're going to heal right? We're going to apologize. We're going to heal. We're gonna learn from this etcetera, then the next week the next week. Okay. Now, how are we gonna come back? You know you just take everything. Once by the time, you don't you shouldn't look today is actually the one year anniversary of our new show. Congrats you shouldn't be looking to a year from now, just like every day is a step forward. And like patients, I can't say enough like this time heals, so much. And in order for it to do that you have to. The patient, but like who hasn't made a mistake in life, too. I mean you know what I personally like about my community, and I feel like your communities very similar as there's a non-judgmental situ, like everyone just, do you everyone has different life experiences like the people that listen to, I'm sure you're showing ours, like they have all different sides of the world have completely different life experiences, if through like a hot topic, and they wouldn't agree on anything. But they just come together in this, like nice unifying way to talk about things that common ground like the Kardashians. I love that. We can we try to more serious than like try to all Christians new nice words. Where it's like you might not agree. Like, for example, we were talking about all of sex toys that came Johnson like someone may, listen whoa, whoa, whoa. This is. But at least it's, it's interesting. These audiences are receptive to, like, okay. I'll I'll look at that perspective. I'll say it's like an openness. It's very twenty nineteen. That's I mean, we had to do to do the show yesterday, live show, and it was just like so format instructions like I can't say this canton was like this sucks. I don't want to know we're definitely made for digital as society, we're all sort of trying to figure out where we are going to shake out on this, like, politically, correct discussion, so many people are so PC, so many people are like anti and say things just to say them. And so I think a big lesson for us has been like we always want to be Reverend, and unfiltered and speak our troops. But, like where where do we draw the line where, like we and I think every personality every podcast or has to figure that out for themselves. And I think that this has forced us, right. Like the point of our show is only to be positive only in trying to make people laugh, get through the day workdays are long. It's terrible all that stuff. So if at any point, anything we ever say, upset, someone like that's not the goal, so we're going to. Own the fact that, like we said something that upsets you and we're going to try and not do it again. I hate when people like upset people and refuse to acknowledge just at someone's upset. It's okay if you meant it or not. But, like just I see that you're hurt whatever the point of our show is always to be positive. So if we're ever saying something that upsets a certain group of people or whatever, like that's again, to this is why we get up every morning. So we're going to totally own an understand that, like, we upset you when will apologize for it. You know, I like as someone who does a lot of digital stuff. But also does a lot of comedy. It's tough because comedians are. So like the point is to offend you were never going to apologize. Fuck. Fuck fuck or whatever whereas like digital. It's a total opposite like the second you say something. And yeah. Right. So it's tough spot being in the middle because I see both sides, and I don't think either one of them are right or the comedy things difficult, especially if it what you do like, because I was listening to a comedian speak that it in his listen. Nobody starts formulating jokes out of bad intention. They, they start to form. We'll be funny, then it's okay to make fun of things that make you sad. It helps. I think it was the best. Yeah. But it's but there's a line people aren't setting out to offend him. They think this could be a funny joke. Right in all doesn't always land on you have to look at the intention to what, what I think is, is kind of cool with what happened like looking at the silver lining here is that I feel like with what happened with you guys. Is it cut the fat, like made, like your die hard communities. Stay strong with you guys sort of go through it with you throughout around you, and then it got rid of anyone, who was, maybe not doubter. Yeah. Like it just get caught them off. Yeah. So the I always use that as an example, because he really like I mean, I'm watching your community in your Facebook by told you guys this Earl. It's, it's such a cool community. So that's like, cut it off that, you know. Yeah with Yahoo before you. Yes. Fucked up total. And we are not missing Yahoo or fifteen live viewers. They are just let me we miss the, the resources provided by our makeup, you speak in his so stifling creatively. I mean we couldn't launch March because clutching people's data is against Yahoo's data pal state, and the legal department has to come and talk to us, major league yet, legal term and had to come and talk to us every time we said something true like China is child predator. So just having the creative shackles being taken off that has been a wonderful a wonderful thing for us. I love your merch stood. Did Jackie tell you. I have the you, you when he tells we give it to you for free Lauren I dunno. What is about word? I just bought. Also, I bought the, the gray sweater. Oh this better. It really I also bought it because it looks cute on my feed. Ray with like the pink tones at the mindset that you think of when you purchase off times like I'm wearing right now. And I'm like, not taking a picture. But the studios also very dark. So it's like not very Lauren ever this studios way too dark for right? I have to be outside and natural light. Got it or I just discovered this thing, it's like an aperture I have to send you guys the link. It's okay. So I was at the Victoria's Secret fashion show. And do you guys know who does he perkins's? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Her husband, was like, do you want a picture because I didn't have anyone to take pictures of me like everyone else on this film. It's still relatable so so hard that is hard. And that was really nice of him to offer. I know I was like crying about it. So anyways, he, he goes, okay? I'll take a picture of union pulls out, this contraption. It's like this little light box it. I don't a filled in every line wrinkle, and he how's it. Buchan my right before we post this. I have to I'm swear to heavy it's a little heavy, but who care. No, it's. So we're a good light. I mean, nothing's better totally. I would take goodbye over good sex. We'll in that case fucking. You gotta get it for nighttime on the link. I'll put the linguini Coachella. Two oh. You need it for Coachella. Desert lighting, and I need that in the stage coach lighting. I'm sure you're going to need the aperture early. What do you think made the toasters such investigative? Sucking inspector gadget. I don't know because honestly, it's the scariest city we have of the many groups, there's another group called the toasters intelligence agency, and they are their job is to yet. They solve cases. And if you ever find you or someone you know, in a case like it is the worst thing to ever happen to you. It says Gary, I'm going to them if you ever do anything she asks. So watch the fuck out. They actually taught me about Mr. numbers. You have Mr. number. No. What's that I pay twenty five dollars a year for it, and it's an app where because I get so many fucking phone calls, and I only decided to not answer. Any phone calls of numbers that I don't have saved. And so what it'll do is you could just type the number. And until you tell you who it's registered to I'm getting not yesterday number. Yeah, people bring in like we interview people unit when they bring their PR teams. I'm sure you've seen this on the PR team like sits there, and they stare at you better not ask. Right. Listen. You could sit there still gonna ask ask you're just gonna make it awkward. It'd be looking at me when I do it with you guys. I'm scared like, if I step out of line, but toasters big time, we don't need any public anybody you just got that whole investigative group wing back to Mr.. I just wanna tell a hilarious story about it because I love it so much. And I literally if everything and I got a two number, and I didn't pick it up. And I search it, and it said, guy Fieri agent, and I was like what the fuck and I called back and was our agency. But that's what they come up as flavor town USA. How funny I get Mr. number? I know like immediately dieting calls like this. We'll know. It's also just like one time I got I'll never forget the reason I got this episode getting my eyebrows done. And I got a number phone call from a to number. And like, obviously, I pick it up to into is is New York. It was New York Post, I never hung up, so fast in my life, I was so frayed. I don't even know what the girl wanted, but it was just gonna fuck. Did you get my number? That's last time ever picked up the phone and say, I don't do numbers. I don't know. It's usually an Uber to or like sometimes lamb Suad calls yet. But I've been getting calls from Siberia anyone else like every night. I wake up with three calls from, like Afganistan. No. Yeah. I get the craziest Serbia everywhere. There are all spam. I guess I'm downloading Mr. number numbers of database somewhere and. It's so fucking knowing like all the time, it's like performances calling. Let's take a quick break to talk about one of my obsessions white shoes. Anyone that knows me knows I am always wearing white shoes. There's something about them as was like so flattering to the foot. I don't know why. And I feel like they go with anything anyway. I literally wear them five times a week and lately, I've been wearing Rossi's. So remember those boat shoes that everyone had when they were little, you know what I mean? Like their nautical, that's kind of what Rossi's look like, but they're so comfortable. You guys I can't even tell you, you know, when you wear a pair of shoes for the first time and they're uncomfortable Rossi's immediately will form to your foot. I'm always running late, so there's nothing better than a slide. I liked to slide on a shoot when I'm running out the door with my oatmeal in a bowl and like five hundred bags. You know what I mean fun fact about Rossi's Megan Markle is also a huge fan. So if the Princess wears them, we know that they are gold. Let's get specific the ones that I got are there white flip on, like? Said like the nostalgic boat shoe, they have other colors, but I like white, as you know, you can wear them with anything more than with skinny jeans a leading, perhaps a sundress. They're very, very versatile. I literally have three pairs like one upstairs and two downstairs. And I take them on trips all the time. What will really blow your mind though is that there are made from recycled plastic water bottles? And they're so soft, you feel good about wearing them. Rossi's has reached almost twenty million bottles recycled and a major bonuses their machine washable checkout. All amazing styles available right now at Rossi's dot com slash skinny. Go to Rossi's dot com. That's our T, H, Y, S dot com slash skinny to get your favorite new flats comfort style, and sustainability these other shoes. You've been waiting for head to rot these dot com slash skinny today. And let me tell you thinking your new white, she's very fashionable. Okay. I have a question because I was looking, I think it was your Instagram might have been girl with no job one of them. And there was a picture of the concert hall. It looks like an opera hall. All that you're doing, you're, you're showing yet where it was it was the most recent one in it looks. Post a picture from Dallas. Okay. There's like the whole entire. Opera hall is filled with people. Oh, yeah. That was for my dollar show. How do you not shit yourself? When you're onstage I honestly I'd like live for it. I crave attention. Like it's, it's my dream attention to always. When I go out. I'm like a little nervous in the like I'm always a little shaky, but it's like I have the privilege of performing for people who already no way I'm like, as a relatively new comic to be selling out to just people who love me. It's so easy. Like they were all just happy to be there. You know. So even if I farted onstage, I feel like everyone would like it. I hope so do you plan your jokes? When you go out or as it. Yes. So it's, it's, it's like a seventy five to ninety minutes stand up show, and I've been reading it for, like, yeah. I've been reading it for like a little over a year. And it's finally gotten good. And Jackie you've obviously seen it. Yes. I've seen the beginning of it like the first show I've seen middle shows, and I've seen most recently like two weeks ago in it. And that's really like I don't think it's changed much in the last. Well, you know, us comedians do you go to? This regular small comedy clubs in on your material. No, I really should do that. And that's what people are always telling me because the best practice is like just fucking up laughing, but I can't like I would rather die like it's so scary. And I don't know how you do that. They can't that is the gnarliest job to me. I know for me to me, too. I look at her, and I'm just like I could never it's so brave. But by the way, always said, but you do it once, and you get hooked on the fact that, like you say something that you created, and that people have, like, that's what if I don't laugh though. I mean that happens and it's horrifying don't get me wrong. But you always just gotta pick a backup. Yeah. I find if I just do like a weird dance or say fuck a lot like people like you, you get to know your audience, and if I make any toast jokes like that's a great way for people just to start screaming. So I've learned to my audiences, and, like how to an I know what jokes Lynn. What jokes doland and of a joke, doesn't lend. I know what to do to kind of pick it back up and just making more exciting. If I sing people love it because I have like perfect pitch. So I, I know what works you know, but it's there's definitely learning like a little something. I mean, I do have strep throat, but I don't feel like it will hinder me, what ten requests shallow. Okay. I'm just gonna start from like the us, of course, the course this. I think it was that my show to it's just like actually my favorite song. Oh. Oh. Do watch Chaz. The. Yeah, the strep is like Atlanta. It's shocking like the book and I'm joking all the time. Like, no, my voice is amazing. They're like, as you know, my voice is amazing. I think my voice is amazing shoot. Please love hearing other people's minds. I only have one song that I do. And I feel like it annoys. We say last time the little mermaid, it always comes down to us. It's always a single yet. Please, please. Please Lipin you fins. You don't get too far legs are required for jumping Janssen strolling along on those. What do you call it? Oh, oh, I thought it was feet street show him owing near fee. How does she like duh? Fuchs wasn't Uber made. Oh, she does. But she's also in the sea. So she yeah. Now, I don't know lyrics totally. I should know that if you want to be married to mate, you, you should really know that. Okay. Can we talk about the Royal wedding like, which one both like let's I feel like you three are married out of four. Oh, it they talk about the actual Royal wedding. I was like, Meghan stress was ugly. I think I think Jackie's wedding broke the internet, surely, Noah, did I could it up. Believe me, neither, her inst-. I was like, God damn it. I doubt on my wedding. I got married in February where the Pierre in New York. Okay. Tell us tell us about like the whole thing, the planning like we're you stressed unbelievably stress. I don't know that there was that there's a bride who was more stress than I was. I don't know if there's a bride who enjoyed the planning process less than I did. Or who is less equipped than I was really started. Planning wedding. I didn't even know how to get like my head my hand. Around size than us New York is so crazy to have a wedding here. But also having a destination wedding is crazy. Two and half your people were coming from out of town, which adds a whole other layer. I picked the devil. I knew better than the divided. I totally I so the New York was, we had so many guests that there are only so many than us in New York that can accommodate those, which actually made the choice really easy. We wound up ending up like three seventy five oh my God. It didn't feel like that many people on the whole time I was so nervous. He was going to be too many people. And I didn't even care people are like I don't wanna see anyone. I don't know. I, I mean, I don't care if anyone wants to come celebrate me you're so welcome. But it was just like it was becoming just so overwhelming like three hundred seventy people need to eat, like this is fire festival. I'm need damages. You know, and you did so many alpha changes, which is stressful. That, that was that didn't trust me out because I didn't make that decision until the week before and decision made me. 'cause we were I got my dress back in August. And I felt so great about it. I never wanted to change a lot of times, because as much as I'm so. Extra like I'm not trying to be, you know, so I always knew I would change into something comfortable for the after after party, but it wouldn't even matter what it was then the week before my wedding. We were going to the far gala. And so I'm online looking for dresses, and I ordered a bunch of dresses online. I found this one dress. I was beautiful white dress. I was like, you know what I'm getting married in a week, like I could wear a bridal type dress like if anyone can wear where wedding dress, it's abroad where they're winning surprise, so like, you know, and I was like, I'll get my picture taken in this stress so ordered it, it didn't come in time because I ordered two days before, so it came like three days after the event, and I tried it on just because, like I had a ball gown in my apartment, and I put it on and fit, like a glove didn't need a ham, like it had a hoop. Skirts went out. So I got to show this to Michael while you're talking going matter. How tall you were because the hoop skirts has ended where you ended everything pit perfectly didn't need a stitch hem, nothing. And I was like this is a wedding dress. And, and I have to wear it. I can't send the stress back. I felt like Cinderella like godmother just delivered address on my doorstep. So I decided that I would change mid wedding. And when I realized that. You know what those actually like very meets. Yeah. I was shocked that you had brought it up sooner he I wanna give myself more work how on earth. My question was this when I was dealing with my wedding. I only at fifty people, there's so much happening. How did you like this feed? She literally designed to roll wedding around flow. But, but how do you have time to like, post also happens like look at my house actually wants the Cavs was posted in the real. No. That was the week that we're over the course of the next week, I posted thirty photos because my wedding photographer, Anthony Vasquez is unbelievably in tune with what's necessary. Yeah. And I told him. Goes did a pretty good job. Yes, I did. I did procure his telling at my wedding, and then all my sister sold them for me, but I just want credit 'cause I got him, I okay, he like, knew exactly what I wanted I said to him, I wanted to be the first person to post a picture that was really important to me. Because obviously, like I was planning my wedding in real life. And I was planning on Instagram too. I didn't even know what was to come on Instagram. But just for my own feed, I didn't want anyone to picture of one hundred percents before me mostly, because I'm thirsty and I didn't want people going to that person getting the likes to come to my dog one hit, followers at moments like this was an expensive endeavor. The least I can do is get some followers. Maybe write it off totally totally getting. I haven't done that yet not a terrible. It's not this was a business endeavor. And so I told Anthony, I was like I wanna post a photo right before I walked down the aisle, as bridesmaids are walking, I will post on Instagram because my guest won't be on Instagram. But everyone else will be. So when my guests Instagram me, like a mine will have comfort. So they were ready like close a picture like twenty minutes before my I'll walk. They edited it. They sent it to me and. And so I was able to push out right before I walked down the aisle, and then I had peace of mind on night. I never checked my phone once again, I was like, I have the picture. I'm racking in the like, and I wasn't on my phone at all. And I told my wedding designer and my wedding cleaner, like they could story there. I found them like they do a lot of work on Instagram. So it's like you know they they get the game and I had no clue what they were posting throughout the night. I was just like smiling for everything. And I was just so in it, I didn't really know what it looked like from the outside. And then the next day it was able to watch all these stories. I had no clue like that. This was really. So there was so much content on the internet. But for me, it was like I got to relive it over and over again. And I, I loved it like I feel like so many people, you would think you want your privacy, blah, blah, blah. But I had my privacy like in the moment, I didn't know all of this stuff was going on. You wanna share community and now I didn't plan for it to be like, so exposed or whatever, like I mean, it was bigger than the Royal wedding I've ever seen anyone in. This is a truly accomplishment like I've never seen. Anyone get married and think so far, like, like everything was planned so right? For instagram. Thank you. Yeah. I was like going back to my feet and I was like, wow. I can only there's a lot of I think at our wedding. Lauren made everyone like check their cell phones, and then also though cellphones make an announcement saying no phone. Tell me what I did the same thing because I was like I want no photos during the ceremony. I want. No. I want no sound. I don't want, I want you to be her a pin drop. I wanted to be dead serious. And I told my rabbi like when you get to the podium, make sure everyone no photos over to aggrava- or videography, whatever. And so when I did my walk down the aisle, I'm walking. I'm just like in. And I'm just looking at like Zach down the island I get to the front. He was like, I haven't been able to make the announcement yet. And I was like, okay just make it now. And I'm also like if there's a problem, I'm not going to trust about it make the announcement now nine a problem. But now in hindsight, I'm like, I'm so glad that so many people took videos of me down the aisle, and I did this silhouette with my wedding dress and like this little wave and I turned out people I made people laugh on my God. It was. So funny, I was dying. Okay. So she right before she walked down the aisle, like right where she was standing at the beginning of the island wasn't her. There was like a white silk screen and you saw her silhouette and it was like a runway. Yeah. And it was like this actual dislike moment of silence. And then all of a sudden check each just waves to everyone in the silhouette, and it was so, funny because it was like this sounds very smart moment, it was fucking icon. It was so funny, but you're dying. I'm so you're right. I'm so glad people got it on ca-. I wanna get married again. Yes, god. But it's like if I could do it all over again. Like I really would high. Like I would've loved to have like, what you had a small, like wet destination wedding that caused you know stress because the six months before planning it like were unbelievable. I mean it causes me stress. I blocked out the night before and alpine maze. Outing also pain because you're like you're like trying to be real skinny for your rain. You're right hungry. Then it's and it's one drink dead. That's a hard eighty walk being skinny being being too drunk, eating some because you need energy, and you'd be personable some charisma judge remember that movie called off, so that you're no, he's in deadly. We don't wanna deadly brench a good call. I had meant at my wedding, and I was like they were I guess, and I was in all night, because my breath was like Kito. So you've got to throw a lime in there. Yeah. The trick too bad breath, someone you eat a lime. She came tonight. I'm going to sleep for the night like enjoy the rest of the evening with your friends. With my friends, she'd, let's check. It's a check up. Try and she left the cool Mike hanging onto I love trumps, by the way, the reason I bring up your trap green toes jobs. You know, if you didn't see Congo, there's like these things with these silverback is are attacking these, these guys that are in the jungle, and the, the leaves, and the bushes are shaking that means the grill is are the jump in. I look over and I kid you not it was like Lauren in the bushes, like shape. I was wearing a gold dress with tight ponytail. So it was very Sharon Stone casino. Also ponytail FOX with your head. Pulse too tight. It's reaching your organs, at what's that girl? Joe Joe Seila. Yes, she has headaches for sure. It's such a headache so much happening. Ran up to me dead. Seriously and said, I can't believe you fucking left me. And I was like you're the one that just left stay here leaving it was really. It was really about. You know it's a good sign when you're fighting on your wedding weekend. I was it was great, then I decided because the light was that, right? For our pitchers that we need to reshoot the entire wedding. So when we got back, I made my time field honesty, that doesn't make me feel bad, because I am now re shooting my wedding pictures, because I got my neck done. And I just feel like I looked so much better now than about your next on KYW Bella. Okay. So fuck Bella. It is not doesn't work. So I thought Bella guys, I was going back and forth like I want Kyle. I won't come out like for as long as I've been alive. I've had a double chin in it anyway. I really loved the way that I look, I'm extremely confident and I love myself. But my fucking chin bothers me, like I don't want to accept that flow. I don't know why I have to society tells me to love your plus I don't love it. So I got a win. It's not working joy. My chin was networking. Joy, exactly Michael. So I was like I heard about K Bella I asked a bunch of people a couple of my friends got it. I heard like mixed reviews, but as far as I knew it was like the only thing on the market for a double chin, surgery removed them. So I went to my doctor our doctor, Dr Sharon Giza, because Jackie and I were going to go talk some more, like, okay? Who was a person in New York that looks amazing? Let's find their doctor. So we've found Ramona singers doctor and we fucking lover and I just like I'm obsessed with our changed. She changed our lives. So I went and I was telling her, I'm like, I wanna do kabala my friend got it. I heard through the painful, I have a very, very, very low tolerance for pain. She was like, do not do Cabello recommended. I'm like, okay. She has the surgery called the natural necklace that she pent at patented. It's basically like outpatient liposuction so you don't have to get anesthesia. They just give you a shot of Val. Liam and they take a needle in your ear lobe and literally suck all that out of your chin. But then also out of your jowls because when you gain weight, and your face gets that, and then, like, sags your face down. But once you remove the fat from jowls LS to senior skin will bring your face back up. So I was like signed me up, and it was very expensive, but I didn't care, it was truly the best. I'll tell you later. Embarrassed. It was like. He's a lot of faith. It's your faith. Yeah. So I went and I was like you're live. She it was right before I started my tour, and she was like didn't have any availability. I'm like Sharon, you've got to get me into literally went the next day. And I'm like very, very, very low tolerance for pain. Like I can't even take baths too hot. And like massages like I literally start crying like I've a very weird body. And so I told her and I also like a weird thing with drugs, like I don't smoke weed. I'm very paranoid. Like I always have an adverse reaction to drugs like if a drug is supposed to calm you down. I will have a panic attack like, and it was having a lot of excited about the valium. I've never taken him on my Sharon, like I'm telling you, I can't take this drug. She was like, oh, please. Everyone's probably says that so she gave it to me, and I remember sitting in the chair before going into the room, and I was like being drunk like, Louis was taking funny videos of me and the second I lay down, like I came back to life, and I felt everything, and I was screaming at the top of my lungs, and if you Jackie while you're there now. Oh, I think it'll be it was aren't you hear me like literate screaming from the surgery but was crazy? It's like I was completely numb. So I didn't feel anything. I just heard everything, and I guess like with the drugs. I got like so paranoid that I was literally screaming at the top of my lungs like that. I was in pain, even though I wasn't like a long take. The surgery took like thirty minutes and wait. Hold on. And then either chinstrap and everything. I have one hundred questions. Yeah, you're laying there are your eyes open where my eyes open that they were I feel like they were open and close because I remember seeing Dr z she was talking about her dogs. I remember like hearing what she was saying, but it also just closing my eyes like for my own. So it takes thirty minutes. You're laying there. And, and you said it doesn't hurt you can just here. So I mean when she numbed me, that's what hurt like, when they shoot you with the, with the novacaine, I don't know, but will use them about did you notice the difference the second, you gotta I was so swollen, okay? That it looked the same. And I was like, what the fuck, I was so pissed Sharon, I look the same. And then I wear that chinstrap thing for like two weeks. And then when I went in, for my, what's it called like first checkup, I noticed a huge difference. And then I just started to like it just started to become my life. And then when I went in for my three month checkup, she took pictures. And that's when I was like, oh, my God, I have the before picture, and it's such a great like side by side that I've been wanting to post on Instagram. But like I just. Hate the before pictures so much that, like I literally can't get myself to post the after picture lease post it. I mean, I'll show you. But I just like I hate that picture so much I was also just looking. So you notice a huge different huge, if you look at old pictures of her, it's like she has really a new Fatan like she got major work done into the picture. She goes, then the boat tax. Well, you know what it, what it does to I feel like is when you when you have, like, like a bigger area down here because, you know, my whole jaw drama takes a takes the I down instead of up. So when you're looking at some someone and yes, we'll in here they're looking down as opposed to up. So it drags your faith. I didn't want anyone looking down on me. Yeah. Michael knows he's getting botox on Friday where yeah, don't act. Donate extrovert doctors. Dr Dennis gross. Have you gotten it yet or go towards? Oh, where do you do it when we do, like those five unit fun? What is five units, when we do it, we split one, then you probably do, I would say fifteen or twenty units, each look it up. Where do you get it? Dr Dennis grooms on your face. Oh hits my four hundred. Oh. Blinds. This thing is asleep mascot just falls down. Little brow lift, you know what I mean. They're all right. So I want to talk about camp toast. Oh, come tell me like all about, it sounds like it's like a better than Coachella for me for sure. We'll Jackie and I always talk about on the on the podcast. How much camp like affected us as women as human beings. We loved Campbell went to camp, our whole lives. And then John Donahoe said, a lot of our listeners like, didn't go to camp. And I guess it's like a Jewish thing that people go to Canada. And really can't you did it to northeast thing? Yeah. So when people were like, what is Kim? But it's Kim, we were like we need to show everyone the campus but make it better because there's so many things about camp that are so fun. But like when your kid being governed by counselors like who think that they have too much power like it's not that fun. But if you're going to do it as an adult, where there's like a bar, but also going jet skiing like that's so fun. Women are women as both. Yeah. It depends like on the situation like we have a lot of different bunks. So we can like, switch people could have their own monks if they wanted them, but he kind of started as a joke, and then we were like, okay, what if we actually did it looked into it? We've rented are old. Campgrounds. So we were working with the people that we use to that used to like, go to camp without hound slur. I camp total. And we realized it was very much a possibility like this is what we would need. We put out feelers in the toasters group. Like if we really were to put this on, like, would you guys be interested, and we got a lot of positive feedback where like fuck it, we're going to camp yet. No. And we threw it together last year. Like in a matter of two months, we only we did it with seventy five girls, and they were like pioneers, like they pay the ticket. They did not know what they were getting into. And it ended up being like the most fun amazing weekend inspiring empowering every rumor, but if this is true, I'm gonna die. I wonder what I don't know where I read this, it might have been in the group. It was somewhere. Okay, but you guys do the campus were heavyweights was filmed. No. When you have these. I think that did I dream because the care when we were kids, we went to weight loss camp. And guess we did. And this was the camp that we went to kids, and these are the grounds where it, so it wasn't filmed film MTV's fat camp at this Cam. Oh, yeah. Okay. But didn't you guys do the, the heavyweights? What's that thing called? No, there's no, no. We need you need a pink blob loves her expensive. But we need to go on. I feel like we should up the tickets one dollar to contribute for a blob, go fund me go, and you could like get an Instagram handle called like toasty. Blob the blob. Yeah. Yeah. I think you need a blob. Okay. So it's not heavyweights. No. Okay. It's inspired by what was fat camp like an amazing a leg go. Let me go love it. You'll love this mart like for one week. It's like Trach in rehab is right I do. So we went it's regular summer camp for people who have been to camp. You wouldn't really know huge difference really. The main difference is like a lot of people overweight. All of the meals are portioned out, so you don't get serve yourself. They serve you and honestly, for girls, it's like a sixteen hundred calorie a day diet, which is really a lot because you're doing activity, there's like one workout every morning, but it's like Zimba aerobics bootcamp like it's if now you would appreciate it so much, like wellness camp. No. Why? Mo- no camp toast. There's one. Yeah, lots of it. Yeah. Counsellors might be getting a little trouble sort of another little totally there is like there is like I don't want to call at fat camp because I don't know if that's what it's called. But in LA they have like wellness like ridiculous Cam, I wanna do. I wanna try teddy Mellencamp all in God. Yes. Because Tanya rod does it and she looks so good. Everyone says that everyone when they do it. It's like amazing. I love teddy Mellencamp. But I also heard you get like one hundred calories a day, are you serious? No, not like one hundred but like none. Oh, I Don. Tru seems restrictive. If I can't do one hundred calories a day, Michael kill me. I would like to eat the biggest bitch in the history of the universe. I know I love to eat too. I love a good piece of sour dough with, like a Kerry gold butter. I also just like a pasta. Oh, so I I lived here. I don't know because the walking have you guys ever had the pasta screen Atelli worse? Oh. So he invented Scalia Majella. Okay. Other on name. Yeah. Authority, every time she says it wrong then you made it even more talents colluded point. Have you tried the truffle pasta? They're on there. I get depending on what goods fucking crack. I've never had that on my God. You have to go back to the side of the table, three other restaurants that we need to go to. No. I like I love Italian Jemma is so good in the Bowery hotel, and it's it's a talion, but it's also like a little healthier like you could be healthy there. If you wanted to be by no means have to be what about Mamo? Have you heard of mall? No, no. We're not like huge. We go where we like and like, we don't need to try new things right, vibrant, Scoppetta. Okay. We're going there Friday for lying. Oh for lunch. Bond street. Sushi is fantastic. Hey, no. I went there last week, and it was so sad and the only redeeming quality was at Nina Agdal was there. But the food, wasn't even bad food. It was like the way that they were like I had tuna tartar, which is my favorite obsessed like. Tell me I cannot like a two hundred tires if the fish is bad, the fish was fresh, and it was so weird. I couldn't have more than two bites. It was like waxy and was leaving a really weird aftertaste. All that's all I'm saying. But there was something wrong with it. Other sushi Seki, make the second, especially K. Second. It's Michelin star sick, very expensive. Sarafina. You know, you don't know the restaurants here are better. I think but I thought surfing surfing has now become a popular chain. Yes. But I thought they had one ally, the influencers shoot there. It's the best fucking restaurant. I hope they end while while we were young and they don't eat their hope they eat while they're there. So what he goes through. Do you think the toasters we're going to accept me into the group know just like ours? Their hearts arrived. Whole it now. They're very open until you cross him. They will like you guilty. You a lot of people come across. No. I think it'd be a very wise decision not to okay. I can't we can't leave until you guys, give us some beauty and scale, I'm sorry, people, beauty, you know, and are definitely genetically blessed because like acne is something that we don't really knock on one Shug awaits. But like I do get a pimple series of pimples, my skin gets better or it gets worse. I don't sleep impulse for me the two things that I just add here to our hydration and cleanliness like I keep my skin clean as much as I can. When I'm not wearing makeup, the minute. I get home. I take my makeup off, and I wash my face or a shower in general when I feel my skin getting bad, like it's annoying as hell bye drink a bottle of water. I cleaned my face. And I just I lather up on moisturizer. I tried to like change up my moisturizers every six months, 'cause I start to feel like my, my skin and body, get immune to certain call home, like we, they expect a lotion on. So I'm gonna hit him with a harder lotion. Are they expect the hard lotion, and I'm gonna hit them with? Alight serum. Okay. So some of my favorite products are beauty lines are Copari. We talked about this yesterday on the toast, I fucking love Cabbarov, covari skin suit goals, obsessed, the C E that smells like hotdogs, does it? There weren't I love sheet mask, but I don't I'm not brand specific. It's basically whatever I get free or whatever I, sometimes they sell them at CVS I just like putting something. I'm not. But the one mask that I love that. I actually go out and buy is the Laurie Al clay mask in green color. I don't know what it's like you're talking about love. I try to do it when I really like after a long trip when I feel like shit. Like I put it on fifteen minutes before a shower, and then I washed it off in the shower. And I really feel a difference smart to wash it off in the shower like washing my Saint lakes. Such a mess in the Senate could take a shower, even if I showered right before I went out, and I get home. I take my makeup, I'd rather just shower again instead of having to splash that New York because I think it's all. All you have to actually shower if not the biggest shower me neither, you know what I shower like probably. You know, I I don't wash my hair. No me neither. I'm now on like a once a week hair thing and like a four times a week about a shower. Yeah, I would love if I could just have someone shower me. I couldn't anymore. I find showering to beat like the most annoying thing ever. Like very busy life. I do not have time to shower. Next time you're in LA, tell me because there's this Korean bath house that you go, and you lay on the table naked and they scrub every crevice beer butthole while you're here while you're here. I don't get the butthole thing, but at a waste spa, they do assault scrub. And it's like a really like a bath like you laid their come off. Get. We'll, so that's what I do at the end of a spray. Tan smart. Excellent, it is heaven kind of like shower. And I told them tiller I'm here. Yeah. When you're living life with the straight hand, you can't showers. No one gets set. Right. So when I don't have a straight, how much is most of the time, like I shower all the time. I remember Margaret and I were talking was either this weekend. Our last weekend where she was like I haven't showered since Thursday night. And I was like, in the time that since you lash, our I've showered five times see, can't Sean. I was in high school. I used to shower and wash my hair every single night. Michael, Shane was twice a day hair twice a week, though. Right. Because then it's like I don't shower once I missed one shower. My hair is greasy. Grilled cheese. So now I've kind of like Gino taught my hair, my hair could go a month. Now, I we'll get oily get. That's the trick. You gotta teach the hair. You're you shower way too much, man. You're in there with your that weird boys do that. And I think it's okay. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I'd like whenever Ben showers and like you're so hot. It's like I just love when he showers, Michael showers, eighty times you are a little bit. We are talking about me rolling back. So hot when you shower it turns me on. Okay. So just so you know, I found out a couple of people deemed me that it's the micro beads in the Saint Ives are not plastic. They were plastic until two thousand fourteen and now they've switched to walnut flakes, which is still really bad for your skin over really. Yes. So Donald really excited sound plastic anymore. You like somebody got. No microbial. No, you don't because it's rough on the skin. I don't know why I thought it was just like a bubble. You like you like the right? It's my environment. Go fish swallow. Everything is bad for the ocean, Ariel Ario Ario area, Royal about straws. You know what? I really like controversial. I really like a silicone straw, just because I like I like I feel like I'm doing good. And I also just like it on my teeth. I don't like this the pasta. I'll tell you what. I don't look. I don't like those little paper terrible trash, here's my thing with this. Okay. I get that everyone wants to switch out the straws to paper or silicone. I'm so for that, like, I'm about it. But then everyone's drinking coffee out of a plastic cut this hostile is, is that we use plastic so much, and we definitely need to start using less plastic. And I just wish as a society, we could start with something less useful like straws are a big part of my life, and I'm not ready to give them up yet. But you know what Amer did to give up those little plastic holders for beer cans. Yeah. I might even the suck in water bottles like so many other plastic items that take up more space and. Use more plastic than I'm ready to get rid of. I would like straws to be the very last thing. We get rid of I want everyone on this show to know that if someone hands me a straw and a restaurant, I am using the straw. I don't I'm not I'm buying. I'm part of the problem right now. I one person. Oh, in a straw, the straw, but it's crazy like, now a straw on your Instagram is like, she Strauss. Now, it's, it's I get DM's about things the other day someone deemed me about having a water bottle at the airport. But I said how can I bring my my water? My hydro flask through the airport. They wanna laugh to explain new on the plane. I was sitting on the plane and this lady behind me start getting at the flight attendant because in delta, the first class, they give you all mini dishonor waters. And she was like, who can I talk to you, because they have like a big dishonest, if they just poured it into cups, like, I guess, that would be more useful than giving everyone their own individual, and it was like this poor flooded, generally, she doesn't make the decisions like it was so terrible. And then if you think about it, okay? You're using the big plastic to put in little plastic cups. It's the same ship need to go to the source here. Because listen, if it's already been made, and it's already there, and it's already in front of me. I'm going to use it if they if they if they find a better way to do it. I'm all for doing okay. I have a controversial statement because when people started hating plastic I was like, oh, my God guy possibly to everyone. It's plastic. And I'm thinking, I'm like plastic is evil. Plastic is dangerous plastic as toxic chemicals that ruined by. And then I'm like, okay, wait. What's the problem with us again? Everyone's like it ends up in the ocean. Mean that's the problem that everyone has. And that's why we wanna stop using it. I'm like, okay. So how is it ending up in the ocean? Humans. We are the problem. So plus rustic itself, isn't inherently evil. It's the fact that it's ending up in the oceans by human error is, so we're the problem. Why don't we find a better way to dispose of plastic instead of just getting rid of plastic altogether. Never thought about right? Because you just think like Adrian green gay has taught us like plastic is evil. It's not evil. It just the way it ends up ends up killing turtles, in the ocean. That's sad around. We figure out a way to not get it in the ocean. I that makes a lot of sense. I mean I have read studies and I don't know if this is true. And I'm sure people will d on me if the causes know that it's disrupts your hormones. Oh. So when you're when you're drinking out of a straw in a plastic Cup. It's disrupting your hormones, and that's another reason why I like the straws Stras. I like the brand. That's great. Is softy straws. But, but if I'm drinking out of shot, and I know that it's fucking with my hormones that's my decision. And if I went that that's right. But it's not the turtles decision to die from a stroke through the nose, so that I understand. But like we should be putting our efforts more towards figure out how to get plastic out of the ocean. That seems like a more realistic feet, then just getting rid of plastic altogether, because people rely on plastic totally. He will rely on straws. I mean, for me, it's a it's a luxury, but a lot of people who are disabled, they need to people need straws. I don't wanna I don't wanna call you on this table. There are three plastic bottles of water, and I do not own not mind. If there's one. We're definitely going to the toasters to get her back. Is we're gonna need to rally around us make sure that tax plastic is very controversial. You'll have to say your chin looks really good. Thank you, like, honestly, it was a long journey, and I feel really proud of it. So sick of hearing the word chin and jaw. He's going to blow his head off. No. But it's he's an important feature. It's an important feature. My my next two little job own or something. Yeah. That'd be really cute. You need to get my face on you. You don't have anything that's that's of me on, on your body. You know if Ben got tattoos that would make him get my name as far head. Yeah. Kelly more end down the bridge of your nose. Yeah. Fine get one and get Grass's logo or something like that, because it changes you change your logos, this sweetheart hot as hell like that's cute. Look at this more into the picture here, and she looks great. And she photo showing you looks so bomb looking always who I just wanna put it out there that when there is a photo of you and I, I don't even look wait. No. I totally I am so with you. I will push a picture and Ben, we'll be like my eyes are closed. I'm like I didn't even notice. I don't even look at anyone in a picture besides me like if there's a photo. Sorry I'm just being honest. I'm photo-op look at everyone else. Can I don't want to be the person that didn't look at other people? But if the person view, like man and woman, like I really I only looked at you, of course, or cross eyed. And it's so does it matter put him against pink? Yeah. You know, you as you look really pretty. They're still everyone else going up. This is what I always dreamed up just have a show with a bright pink background. You're living the dream. Okay. Beauty products. We'll because I travel so much. I the only problem I have with my skin is dry dryness, and it's probably because I don't drink enough water. But so I am obsessed with the summer Fridays masks, every time I got onto a plane. I take I take my makeup off, and I put it on, and I don't even know if it works, but it makes me feel so much better. And then love the way that it smells. And people just think I'm crazy on the plane, but I'm not here because I love it. Then these one pack Neutrogena makeup watching trae live. Now we've heard that using a web to take off your makeup is not good because it can create wrinkles, and like you pulling out your face. Did you say that? Yeah. I don't care. It is the only efficient way to take off your makeup. And that is the only way to not wake up with may scour on your pillow and under your eyes and I'm sorry. I don't have I'll olive oil because ever since. When I was a child, we had lice and the, the treatment the treatment for licensed to sleep with oil and you're here for two weeks. I never seen a grape seed moment. What does it smell like I have to know it smells good would do avocado, and just putting it on the little cotton bad, like it's so much work like so much there. So cotton pad is what it you put in your hand. This is what it is. You put in your hand put it in your hands. You rub it together and then rub it all over your face. But then you get it on makeup. So for if you're removing your makeup you just wash your face after you do that, and the more oil on and go to bed. It's easy to take off face makeup. I could do it with my hand. I do it accidentally. It's I make up. Oh, I'm this promise you, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do it on stories at a one because a couple swipe. I know that there are downsides to these wipes, but I have to say the, the, the upside, totally outweighs the negative Coachella, and you need a wipe these little one pack ones have changed. Now, if you have like one hundred in my purse at all times, and I always take my makeup off before the plane, and then I just whatever moisturizer, I can get my hands on I put it on Gina. Why didn't you Gina and the one the little one? Packs are fucking genius. That is genius. I've really, really smart. You want one insure. All right. That when I do have pimples, Mario Badescu. Drying lotion, is the only thing output on very Kylie Jenner skin. Very she's very clearly Jenner. That's, that's a, that's a hot one, I need to get that. I feel like nothing works. No. It really works when you have a pimple Zach loves it, too. There is a clay called Larisa that's from Sweden has three ingredients. It's water and and clay actually, two ingredients watering clay and you put it on a pimple. It says leave it on for ten minutes if you sleep in it, the pimple will be on the next day. Really? Yeah. Drying pimples in your scalp. No. But I like sometimes when I get nervous, I like, h my scalp and play with my hair. So when I was, in LA like, I went for, like, an all time record of not washing, my hair, and I'm pretty sure I got a pimple in my hair. Okay. So what did you do? I made Ben tick beige, 'cause I was like what is this thing in the background? It's bothering me so much. And it took a picture, and he took like the worst. Blurry picture. And my hair was all over it. So I couldn't really tell. But I'm pretty sure it's been a we should Instagram it. Oh, told us, it is you Jewish. Pre doctors saying because it's actually like a reddish tone. So it might be good. Bullets into the pimple on the skull, where can everyone find you guys pep yourself out the morning Tesco's live Monday through Friday, ten thirty AM eastern time on YouTube. 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The Fat Jew Returns! - How Josh Ostrovsky AKA "The Fat Jewish" Conquered The Internet & Sold A Massive Wine Business

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The Fat Jew Returns! - How Josh Ostrovsky AKA "The Fat Jewish" Conquered The Internet & Sold A Massive Wine Business

"The phone rang. Podcast is a deer media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire and. He's a serial entrepreneur very smart cookie. And now Lauren. Evert's in Michael Bostick bringing you along for the ride a major illness. Welcome to the skinny confidential in and her. Here's the thing I so every time I go and do one of these school talks like milestones on one hand so we'll be like flying there whatever and I'll be like what what should I like. What can I work in this time? Like what do you think? No one's ever said at Yale Business School so we were wondering how many times I could get hand job into my talk at Yale because like how many times can you get into a business. Talk without being ridiculous. I was able to get it in their seven times. I said hand job. Y'All business school seven times. Hello Hello Hello and welcome back to the skinny confidential. Him In her podcast. You've got us live from our house. Wow like groundhog day. Isn't it grow. That clip was from our guests of the show. Today many of you may know him online as the fat Jew. His name is Josh. Ostrovsky and he is here to give a lighthearted fun always informational episode for. You guys here today is this one goes all over the all. Listen to this episode. If you have kids in the house maybe go to another room car. But don't listen to this episode of you. Have Kids in your neighborhood? There's kids within fifty yards of wherever you are. This is this one gets out there guys. We felt you know. This episode was recorded with Josh in the studio with a Shitload of Babe. Rosa Taylor joined us as well. We had a lot of fun with it. It was in the studio. Pre-coded pre corentin literally. I think the Friday before all of this hit the fan and we all had to quarantine ourselves so when you listen to it keep in mind that you know it was recorded before we all had to go and lock down but we felt you know. Do we hold the episode? Do we keep it. The reason we wanted to put it out is because I think everybody could use a little bit of light hearted you know easy content and this this one definitely is. It's so weird because we got to kiss on the cheek which is like so early. Two Thousand Twenty. We can't do that anymore. Josh and I had a little tongue kissed on the cheek. Can't do that like Michael. Said this was recorded pre cova. But I'm so happy to release it right now because I feel like what the world needs. The energy of the world is a laugh. I feel like we all just need to loosen up and laugh and not take ourselves too seriously. So hopefully Josh can bring a little light into your day and this was a fun episode. You know like I said it was. Kobe was just starting to happen of all of us. We didn't really know the impact it was going have but we you know obviously it's impacted. All of us greatly. This is. Josh is second time on the PODCASTS. For those of you that are. Og listeners the first time I think it was either it may have been the last time Lord and I did a skype interview. Just really don't like doing seventy was harder you know. I mean you have to do more of them. Now either skype resume because of everything going on but we really like to be in person with the guest so we had him on with it. I don't think it was nearly what this episode is. You guys be the judge. Because you know it was over skype. We couldn't see each other. We didn't really know how to interact so and it was early on. We're very rookie. Also had some some drinks in this episode. We got loose. We we get loose on research but anyway this was a fun lighthearted episode so for those of you that do not know who Josh is built. You know he's built a massive brand for himself. He describes himself as basically the fat chew. He's an American celebrity writer actor model and winemakers and entrepreneur. And I would really you know what I say that I'm I'm dead serious about it. He really really built a massive brand with switch beverages which launched White Girl Rosie. I'm sure many of you have had and then also the bay family of sparkling wine can wines that he later announced and sold to Anheuser Busch though people that owned Budweiser for and I won't say Josh. A shitload of money. We also have code for you guys at the end of this episode of Four Babe Rosy so get excited. Get your pen out for that one. I would buy a lot. I would stock up. It's very instagram. And I have massive respect for him because he has a fucking brand builder. Yup and for those of you that don't think that maybe you've seen his own line mean content in you're like oh I wonder what's going on here is a serious so you know. The acquisition Swish Beverages by anheuser-busch is the brewers largest wine investment to date. So you know. It's an impressive number. Josh welcome back on the show before we get into the show with Josh. Let's talk about hair so since I had the baby. My hair has been thinner. Sometimes falls out in the shower which is not ideal so. I have been wanting to work with a brand that really promotes hair growth. And this is a brand that I've known about for a long time. I've actually spoken to the founder multiple times and finally I started trying it and I already feel like my hair has gotten thicker so I feel like women. Don't don't talk about this a lot. They don't talk about thinning hair but nearly half of all women experience hair loss at an early age like as early as forty sometimes thirty and especially after birth. So I know that feels scary. Which is why I really wanted to broach the subject on the blog and on the podcast and I'll continue to talk about it. Okay so the brand is called neutral and it's basically formulated with a bunch of potent botanical. That help your hair growth strong and this is really important. You don't just want to grow hair right. You WanNa grow strong hair and you should also know before we get into this whole thing. That it's a hundred percent drug free it's a natural clinically effective botanical. For better hair. Basically what you do. Is You go to neutral full dot com and you take their hair wellness quiz so I went and took the quiz. And then you get a customized product recommendation and you just take it with your vitamins every day that they also make it for men so you know you can take a quiz yourself and then maybe the man in your life and a hint give a little hint. You little hints. You know. It's not always just about genetics. There's many factors that can play a role into hair growth so you can grow thicker healthier hair and support the skinny confidential heaven her show by going to neutral full dot com and using Promo Code Skinny to get twenty percents off. This is the best offer available anywhere right now. You guys get free shipping on every order you get twenty percent off at neutral fold dot Com Promo Code Skinny Again. Their best offer anywhere. Twenty percent off at neutral dot com. That's T. R. A. F. L. DOT COM Promo Code Skinny for Harris. Strong as you are. Okay you ready for Josh. This is the skinny confidential. Imon her. I'm confused about something and now I'm doing the interview. Please ever eaten her but now one time no. There's there's been a lot in recent memory to after birth. We haven't even got the okay for me to have sex. Maybe five weeks old right now right so we went through a period of nine months of that a lot of masturbation going on right now. Dodger has not given the okay and I heard right now that if you know what is it right after you get the first operation like you're fertile right again. I don't think we're trying to do the same thing. Trump this thing right off. No we're not to take a little time only take a breather. Take a breather. Some people like going into that where they give birth. And that's that's going to suggest something that I find to be very romantic sort of the romantic version of anal which missionary anal massively underrated. No-one does missionary animal. Almost straight couples. Don't do that missionary in sort of legs up. But then it's nice because you can maintain eye contact. That's really old position honestly. I don't WanNA maintain eye contact doing. But it depends. Is it a date night? I mean. Sometimes it's like it depends what you're looking for anal sometimes can be impersonal. Your back there by your everybody's by themselves isolating listen. I'm not saying anything bad against anal for me personally. I'm not a huge anal fan. I actually rather give a blow. John Tristan let me tell you. Something if corona wasn't here we would have never put the tongue see. That's just holding Tom Price. If he wasn't deep but I want to respect the guest in the era of Corona Taylor also took the ice out himself and I saw a lot of dirt under his fingernails. The minute I saw I was coming up with this guy was. What's in this fucking guys browser history? Like what is this guy looking at? Took like three seconds for me to ascertain what is in your browser. History I don't have to think about it. I was going to show you his Dick Lines. Because you said Tony great declines. I don't have any at the moment when I worked out. I did. I had a deep v Capital V. Eight yeah yeah he did not. I swear to God I did well. I was saying that some some games call them. Come gutters there also known as suck. Me's there's a bunch of different sort of nomenclature for the big. What is what do they call? Declines WITH TONS OF RAZOR BURN. Because he shaves his bumpy declines. I really don't think girls like hair no matter what your all of your pupils. Yeah yes I do fucking creep. I love that I love that. The worst part. That was a good job. It's like just from Jackson ten skin. I mean what? Are you supposed to do though? What's ten skin? That's all should know about ten skin in this room. It should be you. Yeah Yeah I tried Vasan. Lean no vic vaseline cocoa butter home. I got as a nightmare down here for the first three minutes. Definitely not and I was like. Yeah but honestly that's hot though because I feel like you could also be the guy who's into like energy you know it's not about gender you know what I mean. If you don't see construct you just feel the energy and you go in genitive matter connection thing. Yeah Yeah I mean yeah but not I mean more or less one gender thing okay. Okay but like it's twenty twenty so maybe just like you know so you were on the show before we did skype which wasn't as intimate we said that earlier so we wanted you to come in the studio. We wanted to drink some coconut oil. Lou. Already started. You're drinking the red with the bubbles. Well that's the one he suggests this really quick with actually one last thing for you back. There guys yeah. There's not one last thing one thing that I've been hearing that's good way to do. It is is actually a good place to look for. You know. Humans have sex with female. Humans is on facebook marketplace. Because and you look for women who are selling wedding dresses. Yeah that's like a thing. Say about tipping take. Everybody's like Oh. I'm going to try to fix from instagram. Tic Tac snapchat but guess what go facebook marketplace and look for women who are selling wedding dresses because honestly they're in a bad place. What's the way to do you buy it? I you could buy it. Yeah that would be nice actually purchase. Are you asking? I didn't know if that was a lot of people taking notes. Talk Career superheroes I or can you go out incognito mode. You're right okay. So yeah I was on before we skype just wasn't we weren't really able to like each other intertwine. No yeah like like really entertain so we want to have you in the studio. We wanted to do a tasting on air but I like give us a little bit of background for the audience. I mean I'm sure everyone knows you. But how did the fat Jew become the Fat Joe? Who's not fat at all? By the way you're fucking skills going to say Guinea Seaman. That's an announcement that have some talkline on. It's not just getting its coke coke. I've been on a bender my personality. He's got an exponentially worse but my body looks good. That's really really guy. I like got a little too. I got a little too Shrek. My body type was like a little too Shrek saw. Let's go in a different direction. And now I'm trying to like so I was like gotTa monetize everything so I was like doing weight watchers and then I just now. I'm like the face of Weight Watch. Is that true? Isn't that true so you content marketed to get a deal with weight watchers. No I actually just did it for real which is weird. Because I had never worked with a brand that actually cared about like now one time like norma or whatever like I literally. Don't give a shit whatever you want. I'm down. I will ride. I'll promote I do not care to CBD Tampon Company. I use them all the time. Like I'll say anything I don't care. I T totally doesn't match sugar. Bear you name it okay. Honestly so like when I actually started using it and then got to meet them. I was like this is weird. I actually like us this. This is where that would promote something I give a fuck about and it wasn't heart. It was like kind of not that big of a deal so now hopefully I can get decline since. Start fucking them. We hold on so like I'm just going to get really really micro here with you like you started doing weight watchers like on your own and so you're counting points in the morning and in the afternoon and at night fruity much. So how are you counting your Roseanne there? I like a glass resume. Well the thing is yeah well you got to save up a little bit like whereas I have some points. How many points I think ours like a can of ours. Prices like three or four points. But that's not that many. That's not that bad. How many can you have a day? Depends on your body type K for me. I can have thirty seven but like for you. It's like you'd probably like twenty nine. Okay Yeah we're counting your points every day. I'm married to a woman and my wife's mom has just the sick as body. She's just like inner fucking late fifties and she is just like she has like you know she's always telling you is way like she. She'll chop in the face. Yeah and like her hair is just super dry. Like I just use. You have to change like conditioners every six months or like your hair's going to build a bit immunity. She's been using the same conditioner for thirty seven thousand years so our Harris split ends but whatever her body six I was like. What is she doing and then she was like. I do this shit and I was like well. This has been working for like since the beginning of time plus Oprah I was gonna say honestly anything to suck overs Dick work. We speak totally. Yeah so like anything to get closer. So how can I get close to Oprah right? That's pretty much like how this kind of all that was really the point so you actually lost all weight from weight watchers. There was no adderall involved. No I mean I've been doing no cocaine and bill there was coq. I've been counting points. And there's coke. I JUST WANNA know. The whole lake has zero points across the board. Okay okay now. There have been days where I'm going full. I'm like I'm basically a Serbian. I'm a Serbian model. Okay okay totally. I just want to get the whole landscape. You're like jared of subway but linus child. Pedophilia lost all the way. They hired. Phase of subway right. That's right. Yeah Khakis okay mic. I Love Era Khakis. What are you going over there? I've never you know jared of subway. He was that he was very large. Lost all the weight eating subway sandwiches and I remember. It's not weight watchers. Now what is that of? W W W. They've liked the branded or they rebranded. So now I get a chance to suck oprah and now opennow Swam Oprah watched oprah like approve my content so like Oprah watched it and they were like we gotta get the sign off from a weight. Why do I imagine a commercial of you and Oprah together? You guys did a commercial together in you know I would. There's nothing that would be the timeline screen. No I coulda sworn there's an splice you guys that I've seen you pedicure with my overseer Donna. Excuse me yes we need to do. Better Research Madonna and I did a series of commercials for the Rosaiah and for her skin. Care Line okay. Yes Lee. Use that to suck mcdonagh's Dick Allen. She gave me like some. She gave me like some like tools that they have that are like super futuristic Japanese. That all looks like anal probe dildos. Rub onto your face lymphatic drainage or whatever moving and obsessed and it's twenty five thousand dollars but the thing about that was was that me and her then started hanging out because she is fucking down like within like ten minutes of meeting her she was talking she was like and then. I gave Dennis Rodman a hand job and I was like yes. And then she's GonNa wind you tie your hair like Dennis Rodman. You know so actually said that. So Dennis Rodman. I've been deeming in each month. He's picking a different Dennis. Rodman look from the in. The back of my head is there was a smiley face. Okay that he had the Smiley so he's picking my hair each month. Wow Anyway so. She's like within ten minutes of meeting her road going off like we're full best friends and I was like this is crazy because like after someone is famous for forty years. You figure they're going to be an actual psychopath. That's like not from Earth who is a psychopathic. You've met. Oh what I give give us a little bit like. Give us the end of that sort of the ways that I didn't went to. I was in Europe and went to Portugal and Winter House and slept over their house. We'd asleep over. We didn't sleep in the same hand-rolled like Dennis Rodman. Honestly I did you give you hand job and then leave the room after. Why are you said she didn't sleep in the room? You didn't say yes or no. That's true but you're forgetting what factors that. I can't get hurt anymore. Yes you're forgetting you're forgetting one thing is that I cannot cannot achieve. So we had a sleepover and I've talked about this before she I was. What do you want to do in house? We should sleep over stuff and choose a completely down and then I was a COMMUNICA prank phone call. And then she let me go to make a prank phone call. We called Barlow. Wait quick break because let's be honest. A lot of us are in Lounger now. 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Because she picked up he knew it was her and then she was just like he wants to ask you some questions because she was like you ever heard of him and he was like who the fuck is that like which by the way no shit and then. I asked him if like he wears the purple glasses in the shower. When he takes days you have smaller purple glasses underneath his purpose classes. Like I had so many fucking and then I was just like this is so sick. They're having like an actual or having an actual fucking slower in terms of. Who's a psychopath? Go List usually like I'm a give us a dealer. I'm Zealand how I'm as Elasto. GimMe a because the thing about the allister's are is that they're Mafikeng born. Are All male have PR in the room. No see how there's no PR in the room with this thing. I didn't listen if you WANNA if they wanNA bring their PR. They all have to cram in that tiny clearer and standing Lisa Lisa. Other Lisa all of you stand in this fucking apparently son Bar because you bring the PR in the room. We're still going to ask. The questions can be super stare at D- like even I'm I'll take a cue last celebrity. Just look look. I've spent a lot of time with the New York housewives and like they are active thing about them. Is that you hope staff like when they turn off the camera. They're not going to be like well. And other great episodes frog nipping. Where no like. I'm going to just say I'm going to go like listen to NPR. They are fucking not okay like they're they're physically and mentally. All of them are on well. Lou Ann Lewis she. I mean she's one of our like nothing respect for my president like she is one of our greatest actual treasures. Okay she is like a full treasure. I can't she liked texts me but I'm not sure she knows she's me and also because she's like honey like she can't get out of cabaret at this point. I think every tap. She's like what he's doing this weekend. Is it going to be whimsical? And I'm like who the fuck says whimsical. What are you saying? Did you see when You know that episode when When Sony's dress like flew up so I took that video I was sitting in the front row. Took the video there. Were like eight thousand game. Streaking and weeping and I was like this woman is doing the Lord's work like this is some of the greatest showmanship. I've ever thought about Ramona. And she's like falling in the shrubs like in Palm Beach like screaming and police officers. Ramona hates me because every I don't know every time I see she's like well. Let's let's village look like that. Look like that. Why are you talking about? What does he think? I don't understand why you think what are you doing? And I'm always like your butt. But she keeps if bucking real like she is exactly the fucking same and she you know she blinks. No that's what I'm saying like. None of them are different. Like you know that when they're turning the camera some people are just like not that tight. Are You Bethany Fan? 'cause in life there you're either a Bethany fan or not. I am Bethany and I knew each other from really really early on like I so I interview them because I was on the channel came. I was on a show called the daily ten and I interviewed them. I swear must have been the first few months. The show was at two thousand eight earlier. Yeah like early early and so I really like hit it off. Because she's just like you know we're relatively talking about the same shit. She's got a foul mouth like she's GonNa talk about like I hit her at any time we can just talk about missionary label with I contact. Yeah smart totally thing. If you can get deep on the inside with the Lester is like they're all into fucking wheelchair like everybody's gay doing really really chill shit but it's really fucking art again on the inside and a lot of them don't trust me because then they're like oh you're going to go on a podcast and like you're all gonna drink a bunch of fucking Rosa and like play with Coconut Oil. And you're gonNA tell the fucking story and they're not they're not but you if anyone can penetrate the a-list literally figuratively. It's you feel like you like you could possibly get into like a loose cannon which is what what we love some of the one and then some of them are like. Oh no no no. No you know what I think. I think that they look at you like the antithesis of everything that they wanna be like. They look at you and they're like oh. My whole life has been so closed off not vulnerable and not been able to just be myself and they look at you and it's like they're probably intrigued. You honest that's the best thing about the Internet yet. Totally the best thing that you can just like own every aspect of everything so the Internet so imagine what. Tom Cruise does behind door. No that's what I'm saying. See I'm trying to go to that level that's the farthest level by saying. I'm trying to go into this mutation in won't be sucked up into the spatial hold on. I don't care yes. I via the Brunch at Scientology Center. No Twenty Dollars K and it's fucking sick but then they mail you stuff for the rest of your lights. Honestly it's worth the twenty dollar brunch joking. I swear to God buttery very very flaky Crisanto. You can't drink no that you cannot. You cannot turn the fuck up. Oh No I know I feel you. I know I feel you. It's disgusting but also like at the spread is like it's really really. It's it's a very very sick. It's high-class affair. They've got a lot of money in their people. Tom Cruise John Travolta. They got to be taken care of. They're not going to shift only take care of the top of the top of the top everybody else. There's nothing like fucking. The fruit spreads killer. I'm not talking like honeydew none of that Shit. I would love to see a documentary where you go undercover and like just explain scientology to everyone. I WOULD I. Would I would give by Tom. Cruise in order to get a good story. So that's the level. I would take to to get a good Michael. Just get fucked by Tom. Cruise Jan. Because you like Tom Cruise. Well listen. Tom Cruise can argue with masterpieces right like personally ensure but come on. You can't argue with greatness. Okay so So how did the fat you become the Fatou? Oh we ended up talking about having Unisex Tom Cruise so I was just like a you. Know an idiot of the Internet I do like a lot of shit for like for vice and like TV stuff. And I was just like basically being more on trying to make a scene like just trying to get people talking that went on for a while and then instagram came around and that became the platform. Which at first. I thought that instagram was actually going to be kind of shitty platform for me. Because Lord Zuckerberg has a bunch of rules so I got kicked off like three times and so then. I held a protest outside their office. Shane Myself You watch chain myself their office in my rabbi came and like all these all these muppets. 'cause I put it up on twitter and was like I'm having a rally like come to the rally and I said before when you got a permit to have a rally in New York you get like cops had barricades like you get. The full works if you apply for the permanent so like all these cop shop inelegant on now this guy like some computer like they don't understand why they're there. Meanwhile like actual crimes are being committed like throughout New York City People are dying. Meanwhile they're my instagram rally and seventeen minutes later they were just like get the fuck. Outta here so some girls I'm phenomenon I was like no no not like refresher page. And then she was like no you are and I was like no really I am so at first. I was like wait. This is bad for me because I was more like Tumbler. You know I was putting up like a photo of like a stiletto jammed into a whole. You know you guys love this right. And they were all talking about real time. I think we did talk about it. We probably did tell me. I am like yeah. My gross photo game is like I would put myself in the Mount Rushmore of gross. Yeah you're not you will probably find yourself after this on the list and you can never get off so if you're gonNA go challenge accepted on this. No have you ever tried to get off twice? I let one girl off anyway. This is a different thing but I have a text list that I send out like the absolute worst voters rematch. Like whatever you've seen it's far. Give him tips on how to eat about. Who After Birth Oud visuals extra? That's that's a digital guy. Visually here At once once I sorta Kinda worked out with Zuckerberg and I was like wait a minute. Actually this is kind of better for me because I can expand out the age demographics of my audience because my audience from like the vice days and shit mostly like twenty something maniacs. You know it was a college guys and like people in their twenties. Who were just like you know smoking coke and like being crazy but then I was like wait a minute. Instagram gives me a chance to like probably now. I have an eight year olds. According to the Interlaken anymore. You know and like seventy year old women sloshing Pino being available for me. Your Ma'am as you know would like really good Rhino Plassey. So I I realized like wait a minute. This is a chance to probably use this. I 'cause I I was like fuck the rules like why why's overlords October. Like trying to hold me down but then I was like. This seems like a chance to go mainstream. It kind of exploded from Eric. I was really just doing it for my fuck and Shit Franzen like a couple of other people that like knew who I was in New York and then it just kind of like it just sort of exploded from there And then became overwhelming. Because I was like wait. They're like real people like actually looking at this. Remember one time like Brooke. Shields came up to me in the West village. Like put her hands over my eyes from behind but we've never met before and she was like she was like she was so like midday lady and she was like. Bitch and then turn around. Oh I would never that. I thought it was a girl that I went to Jewish Summer Camp. With Him Jessica and I turned out it was like well. What do you mean guests? You're Brooke Shields. We've never met and she was a love. Your liver your instagram. And then that kind of like got into my head. Because I was like wait. Every possibility is broken. Like this what Brooklyn's like this would have profound follows me because before it but prior to that there's like millions of people on there but it doesn't feel it doesn't actually feel like there's millions of people it's just a number and you're just like throwing out do people come up to all the time. Yes yes but it's like the thing about it is is like it's actually like. That's we're talking Ila celebrities like when you see an Ayla Celebrity. By don't you don't go up. No it's like seeing fucking exotic birgit. Oh my God there's charged cloudy. Got You talk in the softest like you go full and frank voice and low income near you and you're like and you don't do shit in fact you don't even you basically don't talk. You're all mouthing each other but I think when you're sort of a person the Internet and I mean you might experience this also like people feel connected to you. They you're in their hand when their pooping you're in their hand when they're more personal. Yes when they're breastfeeding when their funeral? I mean times. We're looking at instagram. And they feel a connection. You can't be that connected to someone through movie screen. You just can't let you love them but you're not connected them so like people are like not only are they not being like. Oh my God look at you. They're coming up to me like grabbing my dick being like brother Mike. Okay all right hell. Yeah all right and honestly that's really cool like. I'm really into that but you know I it's honestly with women. It's great because like women guys do not know how to like. They don't know here's thing guys who come up to me are the worst because they get like super crabby. You know which is fine like down kind of like. Yeah Yeah. There's a fucking hilarious Lou like let's touch our dicks hot and he's like from Philly. You know what I mean. I'm not trying like Braid my Dick together with his trying to do that to you. When you walked out I would love to do a Decarlo with you. Brianna razor women though are worse by the way. I'm not saying this is like my celebrity issue. I'm just saying like I'm the zealous. The issue with women is more that women do not like I can be on the phone being like mom died on safari and they'd be like. Oh my God. I'm so annoying. I would never do this again. I have a picture. I'm so annoying our knowing him. I and I'm like my mom. My mom actually died by the way I'll take the picture you have never turned some of them. I would never. I can't turn somebody offer picture famous. No quick break. Let's change it up. We're going to talk about beat elite and workouts. So I know you guys are doing a lot of work outs at home. I can imagine trust me I am too. I get it and beat elite as there for you before your workout. So what this does is it helps. Extend Endurance Improve Energy and Stamina and promotes oxygen efficiency throughout your body. 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For how long are people going to be interested in like a guy would like fucking anal beads on his head would like looks like Shrek because like tastes changing every two seconds? And like things become hot. You know if you're if you're like a-list or like you can be famous for longer like if you're on the Zepa your your your window is relatively especially in like fun stuff. I mean I'm not a comedian. I've literally never been fucking comedy club. I get put in that box. Because that's just what is easy but for someone for people like you a little more lifestyle in there but for like funny people like especially as you get. Older people are just like nope. Kids are like no absolutely not like this. I hate this so tastes changing constantly. We're all interested in things for like five seconds and I was like well. I gotta take some like I got. I have to create something that I can like. That will have a sort of in Evergreen presence. Something different though because a lot. I mean there's a lot of those meam account and you made it about you. I don't think you're that you're you're expendable no. That's true because a lot and the other thing is a lot of these people who run these like meam accounts. I don't know who the fuck they are. I don't know fate. Let me tell you I have met them. And they are fucking. They are weird. None of them are funny. They are like basically like basement dwellers who live in their mom's basement girl with no job is amazing. I've met her before but she's like a lover and she's like on the camera. We've met a couple of times. You should go on her. Show the morning toast. I'm telling you is what Jive. Yes she think I looked at. I looked at her thing once and she was like in the bathtub. Screaming about Ramona singer. So like your personality I guess relatively voicing oh I see what you're saying you guys would drive. I'm telling you but she has like five. She's like a person so there are no. There's like an Admin who runs it and they have big offices they have like some of these things are companies. Now they have like open concept Soho lofts that are like sun-splashed and people are just like clicking away on computers is that rhyme mind finding content. Oh you want like a name. Yeah let us know. There's many of them. Okay there's many of them but these people are like not funny like you meet them and you're like Oh my God I think to stick like no not in like a cute special like what is. How're you doing thing? Like people think you're funny but they never then like hi. What's up like Iran? This page and I'm like Holy Shit like you got breasts bluer eleven and so i. I don't consider myself that but at the same time even though I was infused into it. It's just like appetite for stuff like this is relatively short so as I gotta start a consumer brand because you know repping for the like doing brand work. I was into it but it just didn't seem like something that was going to ask me forever so I wanted to like create something that would actually fuck. Okay but how did you even think to team up with Babe Walker? Because her books were around before you had your Mimi Account Not a woman? I know. She's like a fake. It's like a fake thing Jewish men all. I didn't know that. Oh Yeah it's too hot. Brothers Oh yeah okay. You're just like a tall so they read the like name Babe Walker. How'd you think to do that? Are you like friends? I know them. Okay I know them so when they were like on twitter I was on twitter and then we were all like we were all in a silent Ashram in Toronto. We are now now. So we're not we met in a Jacuzzi morale in the same Jacuzzi and they were. I was just like oh they were like. Oh you're the moron from twitter and then I was again. They were from twitter but I've said and recognize them because they were Jewish men and non Walker. The social eight people are very upset. They find out that that is to Jewish men. People are like Babe Walker is my fucking spirit animal. And I'm like you know it's too Jewish guys and they're like are you talk you know. They're mad they hate it. They're furious so it felt like the right thing and I had the guys behind it I had written. Tv shows with and we wrote my book together. There's a fatuous book that's pretty over the top and ridiculous but I like a block from the New York Times seller less because I was like gaming the system and I was throwing raves called like rave to read and if you came to the. Rave you've got a book You know what? I'm pissed that we took so long for us to do this again because we were going through so much. 'cause that's literally so much that's happened since we looked at the data was July of two thousand seventeen that we I spoke. Think about how many things done since then and not. Now we're just like going through it so fast but you literally like built on massive wine brand and sold it to anheuser-busch before this even happened. It was like you're going. I mean there's a shitload you're talking about. How you went on a plane to do by people were paying you to just like yes. So when I saw the ostrich. Yes yes. Bradley Cooper the ostrich. Yeah so think about the fucking people. Probably with a fucker. They Talk L. Paca. No it was an ostrich named Bradley Cooper. I'd like to meet a fucking out packer. Packers are also not that expensive but you can buy one man Saban Peas Kanye West Virginia Monument Address Taylor as an ALPA. So actually okay. That's some cosby absent. Yeah there's a huge marketplace for that okay Like on the Internet. The men will pay you for that. So yeah actually. That was something I have gotten away from since I've been doing the wind. The wind thing has grown so much since we last. It's wild because back. Then that we were talking about was like back then was like people if you invited me somewhere in my DM's I would kiss in Kinyara. There's just like less time because now I do. We basically sold the fuck out like we sold the company. Dan How's Your Bush? And now they like make me work. They like. I'd like do things. It's how long do you have to be working for them with them? I should say yeah It'll be like It'll be two to three years. Yeah but like. We're already in it. So you have a scope of work that you have to complete or is it just like appearance now because now? I Know I run all the marketing. So like when we like but it should because now. I now I have serious money so like but what's crazy is now we have like seventy employees and people are like doing match on 401k. And I'm like bitch I don't know do I look like the person asked started. This company is a joke. It was supposed to be like a troll that were completely wrong in other ways and but now. I'm like I say things that I WANNA do. We have this marketing money and people actually do it and then I'm like. Oh no no no no no no no no no. I'm just saying Shit I'm like we should just get a monster truck. You know what I mean for like no reason we should like you know like I have all these wild ideas then all of a sudden like a woman who went to like an Ivy League school comes in is like so. I put together monster. I put together the monster truck program like you know like we're doing. We're doing that we have. We've we've made branded plan B. Pills like for everyone in the country. Whatever any kind of shit that's coming out of my mouth and I'm like you're taking me seriously. You have carte blanche you just do whatever you want in the marketing world or did you for the most for the most guy to give you a compliment. I refer to you all the time because as blogger. I get so many packages and I don't. I don't say that like Brag I mean we get. We get a lot of packages and to have something that stands out in this space is it's rare and even if it's like Chanel like meal like eight hundred like your packaging stands out more because you appeal to the ego you personalize it. We send you a plug in their honestly. Know where the Fuck Tony Tony Tony? I would've put that in the flatly feed it on the table with the love about flogging a flat seriously. No-one said that ever no-interest said all those words but not together in that sense and you do millennial pink like you. Just you hit all the three things. We're fun we're sledding. But you guys like all the the amount of money that you spend on each box is different than like. I said Chanel eight hundred nail Polish. But I'm more inclined to snap this and put this on my instagram story because it strokes the ego personal pain. Please give you a serious complement. The we actually do use this company and you as an example of proper marketing. All the time because there's so many brands that are just so denies it just throwing shit against the wall but it's true it's true you guys. WanNa go us about the stories originally billboards genius. Those are like the billboards. They've toned us down a little bit like I have a little bit but like we had we had the WANNA west. Hollywood said gay beer which was like huge. And we're the ones the Coachella valley do one on the way to Coachella like every year. Although actually I guess we should do on this year because he is no coachella like ghost town coachella billboard. Yeah Yeah I should just like higher. Dr Man would like glasses but yes more people who looks breath. Murata opposite Dr. She's basically a doctor. Yeah that was also genius to partner with her. Can you talk about that? Emily is she she. Emily got married to like my basically one of my closest friends from high school. Like a complete like doofus. And I've been hanging out and I didn't know it was. It was a it was fast like I was looped in like with like two weeks. Before didn't you officiate. The wedding yes. That's what I'm saying. This shit went down quickly. He locked in total what they were doing. But then we went to Sushil. We're doing this and I was like what is happening in so guy understood from his perspective. Because like I had met her before and she seems super cool. I mean she's hot so she's not really my type you know. I'm more of a sort of into the four. Five range like absorb big rough hands and kind of has more small soft ends somberly thing. She is normal sized cavs like not my thing and so I was like okay. This happening fast but then it turned out that she was like ridiculously fucking smart has way more to offer than just like being. I think being a model it comes naturally to her but she has wait she just has like a lot of fucking say and she super fucking. Smart. I'm not even just saying that because I would definitely shed on her like I'm down on and we became like basically suit like really like super close friends so that actually was the other one besides weight watchers. That happened naturally like I. I'd like to say like Oh as soon as like my friend. Like put his penis inside of I was like angling on her. Was like this'll be perfect for the wine. Because like I am a Jew and I would. I didn't even really think of that. And then later I was awake. This'll be fucking perfect. She has a really good ideas. So you partner with her. And now you're expanding the brand expanding the brain and then you sell the Anheuser Busch Anheuser. Also her care. I don't think it's Anheuser. Did they why. Nobody cares so coach. Do you approach them? Was that the the the strategic business moved the whole time. Did you tell the busy wanted to sell the business? Okay get me the fuck out did you. Did you have people like like court? You besides wind comes so I like them and I get drunk with all these different companies holding them. Do all kinds of I want to see like how far we could push this. You know I was like a white guy in a suit and otherwise you guys should joust each other and then like tongue kiss like you want to buy this company and like some of them were more down than others like there was some jousting less tongue kissing but eventually we kind of knew once once ambush came in. We knew because they're like it's beer like we're trashy like that like the wind companies were like they were cool and like we would have been. They didn't really understand us. You know what I mean. Because as much as like because they're still want to elevate what it was like they got and they were cool. This is like they don't get two thousand twenty no smelling their wine and shouldn't be like these oaky notes of leather charcoal and I was like okay like okay. French guy in little glasses like relaxed and no honestly no disrespect to charter. Because I loved recruiter instead. I and like a repertoire. Coots ALL DAY BUT ANHEUSER. Busch's like straight up. We're talking like fucking we're talking trash and we want it to be like the fucking beer of wine. Yeah we wanted to shock on the shed and then like make an absolutely horrible decision with your life like that was what we were going for. Wind companies just like Warren Really. So we like did ridiculous shit to them but I kind of knew the whole time that we were like just going to go with this. But here's the thing if you have a company sell the fuck out because like you're not you're not like facebook. You know what I mean. You're not like we weren't like changing the world with like a disruptive millennial like can wine. It's just fucking good and like you know we already have like the next business strategy and your head down although one thing. I have doing which has been weird as it since we sold the company. I've been speaking all these speaking all these business school. They like. Invite me down and that has been so fire. I'd love to see like you and Gary beyond the stage. That guys like screaming all the time but like you guys would be so good today together. I think we've never met with a surprise. You guys have never met. He just comes in hot. He's so pitch. Fuck you and I'm like right totally feel you I totally. He's puts up five thousand baseball cards. Then sell them for a million dollars. Shut the fuck up and I'm like okay. Okay okay I down. Let me seems great. I think that a lot of the kids seem inspired by him. I see his comments. People like Yo. I'm fucking with us so I really would like. I spoke at Harvard. Business School like in Like Pink Atlas Jabs. Which for me. It's less being like look I'm speaking. It's cool but like the kids are taking it seriously. What are you what do you actually like? I mean listen the people reading between the lines. You obviously are massive success story and it's it's not a linear path but when you actually are speaking what are you telling them? We're talking about like happens. He'll we're talking about business. It's business stuff you know. We're talking about like building an audience right and then give it like basically giving you don't creating consumer products like not creating things you actually like cover. Mealey's is like creating things that the market wants. You know what I mean like. I'm not like a wind guy. I did this because like I use my platform to be like. Hey what the fuck do you guys want? And people were like weird like back then. Like two thousand fifteen. Everyone was like we're fucking drinking ROSELLA CRAZY WE WANNA get fucked up but like I don't WanNa bring a bottle to you know like we just like basically we have that intimate connection your audience so smart you you ask the audience so many people just launch brands and they don't talk to the audience. Whoa it's getting drippy little stevie and they're really good. Is that your lunch? How many points is the decline? A half point type it into the watchers APP. Just eat a handful of cocoa. Yeah that's really good. So the other thing is is that cleanup. He just got a fresh. It's a dual action thing. We're just running on yourself at all. You know so we like we reverse engineered it like I basically was like fuck if I if if everybody's just like here's what we want then by the time it actually fucking comes out. They're going to buy because like creative. Where consumer for sprint not gonNA sit around in a room and try to figure out what the fuck people want if you actually create a connection with your audience and they trust you. They're going to be like. Here's what the fuck we want. Make It for me clown man and then like I make it for you And then you buy it. It's like we're all doing good things for each other so I didn't like that and so I've been talking a lot about that. Which is like 'cause the thing is that now and then efforts spoke at Harvard. He was like look. I'll do a shark tank type thing so you know. I got all these these all these shit bags like throwing money now like some guy named Derek being dog like we'll do a like a disruptive. Vc like here's money. And I'm like Arnold flushing the toilet. I'm totally fine that or I don't know maybe it'll work so now. I'm like after Harvard. I was like I'm like I'm basically giving money away. Like do you have an idea. Slide into my. Dm's let me hear your idea. Maybe I'll just fucking fund you on the spot like on some straight shark tank shit so you should do like a shell like shark tank. It would really work so I got like five thousand dams and the thing is I really really bad. Ideas There were a couple of gems in there. I just wanted to see if people were down but like to things like gleaned from at one which is that like motherfuckers are getting entrepreneurialism. Faulk like people WANNA do shit. And it's inspiring like it's not just like people at Soho House running like a CD. Dog Food brand like there are people who like whose parents started a trucking company. And they work there and they're like Yo. I work at this trucking company but it's dusty is fuck like we could make this better for two thousand twenty whatever like that. It's not just people with these but a lot of people have these brand ideas just aren't gonNA work. They're not. They're not thinking about like what the marketplace needs. They're thinking about like what they like. One of my favorite books ever is by Kat Mar now. I think we talked about this last time. I WanNa know what you in Cap Martin L. Got into before her whole brand exploded because I love her I want her on the podcast and putting it out there in the past she like rent well first of all. She's like impossible to find now. She'll text me like seven in the morning and she's like what's up. Bitch. I mean why are you in Albania? Why are you there what you doing? And she's like by ourselves No totally also like. She's constantly repping for like a city that I've never heard she's like she's like yo she's like. You need to come out to Tbilisi. It's so mad and I'm like to blame googling and I'm like Oh that's Georgia the country. She's a fucking Nasha Club. Scene is insane like dude fisted. Like everyone's smoking a drug called crocodile that like well. Whatever and I'm like wait. What are you doing where what are you up to? I love it though. Because she's like just owns it. Totally told doesn't care no sending the picture of a couch and Baku in observation. You'll get this book woman's couch and I'm like it's nine o'clock in the morning. I haven't seen you in a year like that's it no context this catch. What was your relationship before when I read her book. Your you were friends before either. Before heading she like I dunno ran away from home I think. And so she got off a boss at the port authority and I just I was basically standing. You were there with actually really the story. I mean like essentially she likes showed up like in a nightclub and we were just. I was like wow like. You are from fucking. She showed up like in a nightclub like inner juicy jumpsuit. Like taking pills. I had never heard of being like you. WanNa fly knocks and I was like I guess what is that for. She's like normally. It's for horses. Give birth but I get super fucked up on it and I'm like. Oh that sounds nice and she michael. She's like ninety pounds and she's blonde beautiful beautiful office from. She's from one of the best writers. I've liked. She knows how to fucking talk to her audience. Overbook really was fire and like she people really like ride for her then. That's not just like no one's like I've ever met very few people who are like I liked your book like it's either people were like nine and care about or they're like I will die for you. She's she has a full blown Colt like an actual call. I would I would get her. I call Kenya. Yeah yeah like if. She wasn't like on Mars but she wasn't like eight countries away. God knows what she's like. You know in like south is rushing to ride a horse into a nightclub and I didn't know that and then and then back and then she doesn't respond and I'm like that's it. She'll leave me all right that kind of friend though. 'cause then you get into this like text thread. That's like back in the flow maintenance. That's a that's a taxi opening. You look at it right away comes in you're in it. She's entertaining and you get the tax you tax are back on for a week. It's perfect out there. Honestly like doing shit so she can write about it like some people. Just write about it. Like they'll just come up with in their education but she's like I gotta live this shit. Okay so tell us something about Paris Hilton that we don't know because the documentary with your love transition against him and ask him about all the hot blonde. I gotta ask him about Paris Hilton so person. I went to high school together. Oh look in. La She so she got kicked out. We went to high school. The New York. She like drugs like drinking booze during school. Plague thrown out and moved and move came came to La on brand right totally brand. She so Paris is like basically and I said this in the documentary. She really is one of our greatest. Americans like she's my Benjamin Franklin. She's like just. I think she met might have invented this whole like. She invented everything she really did. All right it's all because of her and she the thing I like about her which always I always felt connected around. Was that like for the most part. I think people when they think that I hear a lot is like people. I'm not even like sweating myself when people meet. Oh you're not like as stupid as I thought you were which I love. They're just like oh you're you're LEX. Set the bar low and then you step right over my favorite thing to do. So she's like the fucking queen of that like she knows what her audience wants like she can go on. I'm always wanting you do like a Forbes covered. She really could. She sold like five billion dollars in fragrances. But it's weird America's relationship with our because you know she's not so relevant New York right we think of her as like amid ought sort of stable but like when she when Paris gets like seriously when she gets off the plane in whatever city camera now going fucking yeah. She gets off the plane in like. Oh mom you know like straight up. Run like short people How people are barking out of their mouths and weeping weeping barth and so her like she's a fucking star over there but she's she's reluctant to talk about it she doesn't want to go on shouldn't be like time. Super Smart. She gives people what they want. People want Paris being like and like that's what she gives them. She doesn't feel the need because she is that she doesn't feel. She said on the joke totaling at her sneeze. Living things living is like sledding of saying she so fire she invented the entire ecosystem documentary. Do not ever in your whole life. Forget that that fucking Kim. Kim was organizing these bitches closet. Kim was in charge of her shoes. She made her like executive shoe organizer like that. Do not forget when Kimmel click too far from Aladdin. She was organizing Ariza shoes. That is all you need to know which which Kardashian would you make if you had to pick one I say is everyone. Yeah all in Presser. Is this about the sex? I would go Chris if I were. You know that's the right. Yeah that's always right. Yeah Chris and Corey Elvis and Corey together. It's a three way during your branded. But plug actually was interesting was that and I like her. A lot was that I was at like a thing. And you know what's funny is a lot of times like they. I've met all of mckim is like super scared of me like whenever she sees. Hey she's like backing up you know she's just basically beep beep she's like this fucking guy. She's not a big drinker. No she's not really turning up some of them like really hard so no names but what's funny about them. Is that like when you hang out with them. And it's cool like they talk as if you don't know who they are or you don't so like you'll be talking to them and like you know like I was chatting with one of them and they're like what are you doing tonight and I was like and she was like well. We'RE GONNA go out and I was like cool. She's a key. I never really go out but I really want to go out because like you know. My sister just broke up with her boyfriend. That's a whole you know and I was like okay bitch. Are you talking about chloe? And Lamar like me with this. My sister just broke up with her boyfriend. Shit you know what I mean being like you know how that is so we gotta like ride for her but like my sister I know I know it was fucking front page new. I understand yes the whole country knows I appreciate like I appreciate the down to Earth. But there's gotta be a better way 'cause freaks out and they'll be like do you remember me and I'm like Casper which I remember you. You're like what w like fat you it's up to you remember me and I'm like can you pose a story. I'm like there's no way in any universe that I don't remember you like. Do you remember meet like that's the real question here? What the actual fuck so. It's cool that they're like being down to Earth but it will definitely freak out so Michael and I were sitting on the couch lazy Sunday. You know did nothing all day and we decided turn on this movie called Uncut Gems. And we're fucking watching it and just you know it's great movie. All of a sudden random seen with Yamakawa on and a living room. What's happening. I wanted more from you. I wanted you to be in it longer. I have a way longer seem with four hours long and they had to cut it down. So like there's there's like can. I see that movie stressing me out the whole time fucking amazing distress me out. It was like the college the Guy was just the guy just like he's back was missing good times marketplace. You need to see the SAFDIE brothers. Other movie called Good Times with Robert Pants and it's amazing to let me tell you something about this guy behind you at our wedding. He pissed himself at the wedding. Told Lawrence you as a beast went on though his answer to being like. Oh Shit myself on this. Aided WET ENCHILADA OFF. My Dad's played and then went to the. Strip club in his idea to dry off to swing around try. Yeah like an airdrop. That's nice way. What Strip club? I honestly don't remember along for the ride. I was a mere passenger built students. There's a giant wall behind her is usually glass. We could see I had to put totally Contact back if any of you listening ever need Strip club. Food recommendation. Pleased Yemi. That's like that's my specialty food. I have eaten at probably. Five hundred strip clubs costs merica. She the Rhino have food in in. La Las Vegas. So the one vegas does but it's not it's not like it's not that killer like that's the thing like they've they don't do food right like if you really cause a lot of places get super gourmet now used to be like fucking wings and fucking frog you know. It was just like Strip club food like Nachos and Shit but now places. We're getting super fucking like super gourmet like you can get a nice spring. P risotto with like a you know like Chilean Sea Bass with like a a nice spot. Show like a summer Gazpacho. Chef come out. How are you thank you so much for coming? And I'm like what the fuck I'm like. You have an executive chef like the woman behind me is a c section scar on his dancing while vaping onstage. Her child is sitting watching other kids. Taylor would love recommendations but Taylor tends to go for Mexico. It also battled back to uncut gems because we so so actually so the Guy Friends Cbo. Who married him rata? He's like one of these groups that movie. Their company made that movie and we are on like super close with one of the few brothers. He's like one of my better friends. Which an amazing movement which is funny. It's actually interesting. People were shocked that we know because they're like kind of highbrow like they're like filmmakers like love them and I'm like a complete moron so people are always like how do these people know each other. So it actually. The relationship was ended up being really funny because like no one knows the fuck is going like no one understands but we are hang out like all the time their movies are just so fucking strep. Actually see you being a lot of movies in the future using so yeah. I mean. I've been in a lot of weird team move now. Here's the thing you did. The social tying you built a massive business sold at now. It's like that's the next. What else well you tell me. What's the next fought like? What the fuck should I be doing from your car movies? I'd Love skin-care okay. Great no one would see that coming like like I love like a hot pink mask or like interesting like I could use like a Bot mask or after you get pregnant. You need like stomach. Max hit mass. I'd love like something skin from meals. And you went to tip masks right open white space. I've got a booby pitch for you. You Okay you go undercover your secret ages in you go to other countries have missions but yet you're yourself and it's you know what? I mean it's like we can do there being like Mr Brunner's gone. Here's where we're going to do. Let's get bulk. We're going to get a fuck. You will get a room out by. Lax Comfort in. And we're going to write the script two days like by Friday. We will have a full script massive bedbugs. You're in okay. Oh come in bed bugs. Oh that's why you have those bumps all over. Your Dad wasn't razor burn. It was actually in your Dick Lines things like whatever I do next. I'm just trying to do something. That's completely off the nose. That's why wine was funny because everybody was like that's why I don't. I don't really do things anymore that anyone would expect. That's why like when they I was. I made a Shitload of sense. Because you're always chugging. Did Wind didn't like the way he did. Wind wasn't like the lake. What's the what's the person called the wine of Somalia Somalia? It wasn't Kamala like he didn't have a fucking pin on show but it was also like they want. It wasn't like we went like I did it. A little cleaner and more a little bit more tasteful than I think people expected like I bet there's a lot of Somali as that are pissed off. I actually definitely to play with glasses being like. Oh my being during a spit. Take what is this this fucking swill? But actually recently I went to Mexico City and I went to the restaurant and they had a molay like the chocolate sauce. They had a molay Somalia and he had like a super long spoon. It was like two foot long and he would like put a tiny bit. Mowlam like a tiny little spoon at the end and he would like pop in your mouth and be like a like let it like let brush against your palate like that is a two hundred year old and I was like. This is so fucking stupid. Here's the move you move out to Napa and you actually create like a whole exhibit Abrahams. They like I want to go and taste all the stuff and like switch the glass already for that right next door slides. You've another week. It's fucking wild because NAP is boring. Let me tell you something right now. I mean there but it's like Susan's and Karen. Getting fucking completely lit Park Right. But it's not it's not enough. I mean this guy back there since he was twelve years old around. These ideas are dead. Fucking serious yeah. It's not like it's details on therapy. Nobody you're not. No no definitely why he really fester until eleven to breastfeeding I would love for you to round out this podcast with some advice for him so he came on our podcast a couple of times and he has an issue where he comes in a minute or less or did edging helped a lot so edgy but we need a little bit more advice. Because I'M GONNA say edging only took him to a minute and a half. Which still isn't satisfied when you like when you're feeling things inside your body rate when you're feeling stuff now like when you're like tecom cue wizard when you're like sort of like kind of like when you're on the way off on the roller coaster you can feel the back of your like rising for you like before you drop in. I want you to think about this. I want you to. I want you to think about Steve. Shammy think about stiegler. Chevy's mouth really think T- think about the humidity of breath and he's licking he's he he opens. He peels back the foil of a large large container of Chopin. Now the show Bonnie aluminum whatever that is has a look thin film yogurt it now in super-duper slow motion you fucking pervert. He licks it and he's just looking at from top to bottom now. That doesn't make you not come. Then you're like really really more on. Well I thought I was GONNA say is ultimately. What's going to happen? Is he thinking of that and they would still even Jiji that? You don't think that digest understand that would prevent you from juicing because I mean I've read online like with a Sunday gross. I think of like you're having sex with your Nanna Mike Guy. Steve BUSCEMI's humid teeth in Trapani rapper. Dude I WOULD. Jam icon software. Mike my fucking known as ask before I would ever want to think. About cleaning shipments from T S MOUTH LOOKING AT SHOW. Bonnie Lid. Those aren't even on the same level. I get it like fuck your grandma. It's really like whatever but like no way. Are you googling Bouchette now tracking time this happen? Here's I walked into. He actually is a full. Bouchette episode that I realize pink handcuffs fuzzy handcuffs advice from you guys found a doctor or he found me. Actually I met him on the set of Dr Oz Dr Weird like like fascination with me. Okay Where he's like. Bring him on a medical freak lake. I don't know he's just like what will you do? Eat Crayon and then I can tell. The crowd like should need grants I go on. I meet a Persian plastic surgeon. And he's like baby baby baby I mean he's like some reason known guy like a google him so he's telling me that he can make in my chest that are about. I don't even know a quarter of an inch really small incisions in my chest. He can then give me breast implants that are made from saline he can give me like a nice tasteful C. Cup. I mean that's what I prefer. I want something. Nice incertitude under the muscle and then they will. Disabling will dissolve back into my body in one month. So they're temporary breasts. He is telling me that he can totally do this. He's Baby Greg for content. He's gotten his king. You know it's a problem with that though if you do that. Your your tits. When they're when it's dissolved will hang. It's like breastfeeding your tits. Fill UP WITH MILK. And then when the milk goes way the tits hang down so just go into my body. He said it goes into my body. It is going to go into your body but your tits have expanded so the skins going to hang. It's like being pregnant. Fuck sounds Kinda sick cheerful. Maybe why don't you get ball? Implants and show us. The controversial kinetic right like humongous ball. Yeah TALKS SMOOTH. Like affect the mass. Make a ball mask. Nobody makes one needs a ball mascot your balls like artists and fine lines and wrinkles. Uku bomb honestly. I'm in either option. You choose if you WANNA do the balls or go with either. They've been walking into the wind. Looks Horrible wrinkle. They Look Yeah. They look at your granddaughters hand. They don't get better either way honestly. They look at the hands of a Korean War veteran. I saw like like Red Ward. Sulfur them pro. No fuck that real night. We're not gonNA medical shortest guy since he's a producer he's GonNa edit that. That's a shame right like he's in control. Pleased that the ball sack is very. It's a disgusting thing. It's not a tractive cute. That's why I was thinking about got boats pumped in my balls. You get them completely. You could remove all wrinkles could be smoothed to like you know what I mean like to like to heirloom tomatoes. So down for that perfectly glazed and smooth. That would be incredible. Can you give us a beauty tip before you go one? Do you use an eye cream. No moisturizer using I USA. Mario Badescu oh. I have some pedestrian up in this bitch. That's that's that's a kind of good. Wow It's actually one thing that I have actually is into anal bleaching which. I did as a joke because I made my intern go and do it with me. Because he really wasn't in my intern at the time he really wanted the job. And like you think I made the fucking people wanted to buy the company do horrible things. Like the things between two interns. Although now it's like I have to get them to sign. Nda's 'cause it's like you know it's just harder than it used to be. But I made him go. I was like you really want to shop. You will get anal bleach with me like I want our bottles to be Barada white so we went and then I didn't. I was like wait a minute. My butthole looks. Kinda cute like I was all up in the mirror scoping my own. My own business and I wasn't even like going on spring break to Kabul or whatever like whatever people normally bleach their innocence for but then I got really into it so now my butthole is gleaming. It looks much better than the estimate. Should Girls Bleach their whole. I don't think that you have to actually have made me feel really good. I think that sometimes women would be like like how to please my butthole said like someone was but see. I'm down at girl. I'm down your dark ass bottle like I'm done with your butthole being dank dark because everyone's got a dank dark bottle I don't care right. That's what I'm saying. I do not care. I wouldn't discriminate. Going around. Right actually sang later. Don't bleach about Ho for him. You Bleach your butthole for you. Yeah you bleach it for you. Okay go off like don't do you got into the Harvard to harass should you butthole bleaches your next product right like an in home? Because I don't think people really understand millennials. You know what actually how fire would be if you went into a super serious business talk right at Harvard ballot how to sell massive wine company and they ended it with that totally. I mean. Here's an eye so every time I go and do business school talks. I have like milestones on one hand. So we'll be like flying there whatever and I'll be like what what should i. What can I work in this time? Like what do you think no one's ever said at Yale Business School and so we were wondering how many times I could get hand job into talk at you. Help us how many times you get hand job to a business talk without it being ridiculous. I was able to get in there seven times. I said Pan Job Yale Business School seven times. So they're Gimme. GimMe Kodak. I had these I had like Miller Coors anheuser right which one of you guys give me a hand job. I was talking about. How like when you sell alcohol distributors which is like a big part of it. They can't sell directly to consumers so like the distributors you're constantly just jerking them off giving them handouts my research exhausted from getting these guys to like take the fucking product and then the was that the week before the speaker was John Kerry and apparently he. It's at hand jobs less times than me. Because he's how not surprised he would never saw like. I Dunno like I'm down I'll I'll fuck and funder business and honestly now that I have a little bit. I'm starting to have like a little bit more time back. So my whole like I'll do anything you invite me to things like kind of back on the table. Invite them guys like if you invite as long as it's not a bunch of finance guys because I used to have like a lot of finance guys right fly on the show with us. We'll go to Vegas and I'm like that's boring party. That happened that you did in New York and we missed it by like a day. That was I was pissing her. Which one's pink yacht or something? Oh my God. The boat the boat. We missed it by a day. Because he's like the boat was completely out of control First of all to render to rent a basic ain't fucking. I thought for during that Lebron Dr Drennan. I have hung out several times in like she is just like she she has gone. She cannot stop going off like she just can't she showed like her tits to the. Cote coastguard boat like Hana came up. We were like wait. Are they gonNA pull us over the bows we were like? We were basically on like a vote. In the middle of the Hudson River like floating wasn't like a yacht it was like a floating dusty casino boat. It was it was not fire. But we could basically just like you could borrow forever. And so the Coast Guard started rolling up and she was like. Oh they look hot and it showed her tests and I was like honestly you are a tradition live in the Smithsonian prior national treasure like the protect Arinda Medley at all at actual cost and I got she invited me to go to great Martin and I couldn't go so I'm like down angling again. Invite this summer to like whatever it's called to rent No like seriously trying to have this. Trying to have another sleepover me. Her John Medallion invite Madonna. Where can everyone find you? What's Your INSTAGRAM PIP yourself out. Not that everyone already doesn't follow you and tell us about where they can find your wine. My instagram is the fat Jewish You guys follow the TSA like the security the TSA so fire because they basically show you everything like people trying to get onto a plane because people do not understand what they can bring on blends like they're confiscating the actual they're like you has drew. Yes Brent you cannot like you just cannot bring whole cooked Turkey and none shocks at like you. Just you can't bring cannot bring these things on the plane and they confiscate them and they put on the instagram anyway. My instagram is the fat Jewish My Yeah No oh you just brought you thought you could bring a hand gun on the plane. You cannot also if you need to know what you can bring out a plan. You can just tweeted them. I tweeted them. It was like I bring a full. What is that? It's an interest are made of machines? Versavel Ninjas are really that ain't gonNA fly in the first six to bring a Ham. Sandwich either literally managed no. I just found their instagram. Who was this popping as fuck? Do you think Taylor can add in the bathroom at us? The Hook is that. What is that like nunchucks? Yes those are sickle nunchucks and guys you. You literally can't bring shampoo and conditioner on the plane. Why did you think you could bring sickle nunchucks? Like that's not going to happen or Vermont. Maple Syrup this is actually maybe one of the better accounts amazing photos so when? Michael is the high I was trying to. This is really like a hot tip for all the girls that WANNA fuck with their husbands like one night at three. Am I took his phone and followed a Hundred Different Shwe accounts? Here's the deal. Now for the rest of his life all that populates every social platforms is to Wallace. It is fucking amazing. Hi thank you hot tip very well Paul. He gets served. Chihuahua like you're done. It's over for every time a new account starts. You might be interested in this. Lay Albert Lord Zuckerberg no like now. That's what he thinks that. That's all the Walla Walla. Walla Walla constantly screaming lobster Walla's Rhonda's phone. Steve Chevy Yogurt Anal beads. You're going to get served the crazy shit. You'RE GONNA get the craziest ads later My thing is the Jewish You Can Prank Call my dad. Nine one seven seven three four eight four zero two. That's my dad's phone number. You can call him he's He'll be addictive. It'll be next to you. I've done this before. And he's like not funny. You call them out. You can scream on them like preferably late at night when you're hammered whatever call him up And what else yet be like the wine you can find like pretty much in any store like you can go usually distributions off the chain now now that we have like Anheuser Busch. Where like talking? Premiers with bubbles is really really good. I wouldn't reach for this one. I I drink. It was good. It's like thirty percents Terendak. You don't think it's the one but then you try it and you're like this is the Durand Remember. What these cans like three of these cans of bottle of wine volume select people are getting some act like my monitoring like six of them at Thanksgiving and then like basically ended up telling you about how she like. Fuck you know what I was going to God. That feels stronger than just like a beer. Yeah gets you buzzed? Full full thirty percent carbonation to thank you for coming on. Come back anytime. You're amazing. Goes this is me off that it took this tweet. Shel Silverstein the writer. Yes Fuck Shel Silverstein. You didn't see that is bio bio because that proud of it. Yes I'm saying. My mom got drunk at Thanksgiving. She drank six paves because they're small. They're red bull size. If you've never seen one and they have full outs you drink three of them. They're like you could slam them easy. And then all of a sudden you're like oh wait a minute so she had six which was two bottles of wine and then she was so we're talking about something. She was like Like you know think I'm cool probably but like let me tell you something. I'm fucking cool and I was like. Oh yeah are you cool because like actually becoming a doll your parents like start to be down to like tell you about like exploits of the past like once you're like well? I found that once I got over thirty. My parents were like let me tell you. I used to do because you think your parents were like not doing anything and she was like. I used to be cool. I Fuck Shel Silverstein and I was like we will meet why no my parents kept that for me but now they're just like any honestly one sip of like am one simple. Margarita or six later. She's like I like I wish. Excuse my dad. I'm pissed I've called. My Dad formed. Be Like why aren't you book? Shel- Silverstein you should be. Here's how I drink babe in an uber with a paper Straw like Pixie Straw. It's the best freezing cold from the fridge or civil cute. I have questions right your content. I have consequently we were wrapping. But we didn't get to any Michael he ran. Just we have time unless you gotta go. No you're content you're ripping at all times. I'll take it from Yahoo Shredding. I will take it from you. Oh my God and the words of like horny producer guy at the wedding. You're a beast I go. Please don't put any of that up and then the next thing I know it's everything's out. No I don't care what you say you're literally sitting there and it's just it's out there the world just like. Yeah it's like I don't think she doesn't give a shit your fucking shredding and honestly you like your guys. Here's a one hundred and seventy two steps Skilton. How one hundred seventy two steps and then by step ninety person. She's rubbing motor oil on her face but her skin looks better. You need cream definitely. There are some open lanes here. There are some things that probably me and you could probably do what I say I was like. Listen I think there's some there's like something going on between here and like normally what's this guy watching all the time but like between you two. I'm I'm in. What what are you in for all we want your money? The only cares about anything. Just give us your mind on this down on that. They're not gonNA. I'M NOT GONNA debate it right but I use Taylor's butthole this is. This is good land on baby content. I know you'll you. It's not easy your baby too much. She's here and they're not a lot no. I don't feel like that. Some people are just like the baby doesn't need to be shown here and there. I will say this. I took a child that I knew. I mean my friends child not like a child that I met and I put him I. I was joking. I do some kinds of with your kid and I put him on a giant fucking piece of bread like a giant loaf and would like lettuce tomato onion and then I pretended to eat him like a sandwich. Crushed baby content can fucking crush. It has to be done right. Melissa thing because some people like I don't think people are exploiting their babies are not doing it like diapers or like by this like no van awaiting it. I can't wait like these non toxic. Like one of the slogans of Louis. Eat It look at it. Fuck it like rats. One of the things we get the baby. This wash isn't like I think I don't know I'm getting my baby. Sputtering honest all the baby content is like a gender fluid like nontoxic. I ask because we got you know there was a bassinet. Our friend created it's beautiful bassinet and like the Internet went fucking ballistic thing that we're gonNA leave the baby and it was going to die in this bassinet and it was crazy heart. We put up. If we put a sweatshirt eat it. Lick it suck it. Fuck it with six week. All we're probably GONNA get even probably be a little bit crazy definitely but IDC probably would okay really quick. Kick question to your best seller your favorite book website or podcast about preventative skincare. Whats Our Name One. Podcast about preventative. Skin GET BREAKING BEAUTY. Glossier like what sex in. Asia? I'm saying I'm saying yeah. Yeah No. That's not even a lie. Okay you are the only other Peruta only watch seventy-three skin care for I will watch a full blown three hundred ninety seven step skin care routine that you are putting up this show how to ask my whole on stories and dress for your dashes little dot your day on the story are so fucking small it basically becomes one solid. I don't WanNa be that annoying person. That's the thing is you're really like you're ripping the content. Yeah but the the dashes. I don't love nicely so much. Actually you actually have charcuterie. Like I've seen wild charcuterie. I've seen why is like I can't really look finished. Gone super specific data jerk off. I'm drifting off your instagram. But like really Nice Chuck Rewards Hitler. Whatever you're totally. What am I gonNA stop? You thank you so much for coming on in blessing us with your Kim Kardashian. Cry Jacket and your yellow hair. We really appreciated everyone. Follow him on Instagram at the jail. And what the wine. The wine is at Tring Babe at drink babe down for. Thanks for coming on love you as promised we have a code for you. Drink Babe Dot net you get twenty percents off the entire site with the code. Babe does skinny all caps. Babe does skinny. Drink Babe Dot net. You guys get the Kendra Zeh get a Pixie. Straw you will be so happy set yourself up with Kendra Zeh in your fridge so cute. That's Drink Babe Dot net twenty percent off the entire site with the code. Babe does skinny and then also wanted to shout out. The nurses boxes that this getting confidential team is doing. 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Elvis' Wedding Week

Elvis Duran and the Morning Show

2:07:58 hr | 11 months ago

Elvis' Wedding Week

"Hey man listen up your new favorite. Jeans are here the next level airflow genes from an American Eagle an authentic dumb look with comfort and flexibility you gotta feel it to believe leave it like their stacks skinny jeans design with longer seem and stacks at the angle so guys you can show off your kicks. I appreciate that air flights men's jeans are also available in stores and at at Dot Com right now in all of your favorite fit so chime with free shipping and returns right now new next level air flex genes for men from American Eagle Comfort style. Your move is Elvis Duran. This is really funny. Larrea Elvis to have a peak wind. He's host of the National Radio Show on the morning on the radio all got Elvis Duran Dot COM iheartradio dot com and of course all up and down the eastern seaboard and across the country every morning Elvis three in the morning show well well. Well survived another weekend without white cloth. I don't know you know what I'm just starting to. I'm starting to there are a replacement for white claw. We'll get into those later. Well welcome to the day it is Monday. It's wedding week. You guys ready for a big can't wait. Are you ready any. I think Matt right honey. I'm ready. You know it's kind of funny. There's always the wedding then there's the marriage they really are. Two different. Things are so so this week is wedding we it's it's actually a massive party first weekend. We're bringing you live coverage later this week from Santa Fe in the big wedding but I gotTa tell you something the quiet before the storm is someone is today. I think we're going to have a great show. No no guests to slow us down. How you doing Danielle Hi there? Gandhi scattered and I get that good a froggy how you doing. I'm doing good alice producer. Sam over there was great t the FRAT boy around family with a very special assignment for the wedding for him. Well all right so I don't know what song we're starting. The show is scary because I'm not there with you. What Song do you WanNa start this appropriate? How do you want to start to show appropriately jagged edge? Let's get the crap really playing this at the wedding. <music> say search engine running it has been listed yeah and did you it. You shake it. The Big Daddy was finishing and so I wanNA give you some back. I brought with me on the chain miss in late night maybe tape. I won't try that USC even Sir in twenty-five Alright Alright I get it. I get it just going to be a week full of wedding song. GotTa help of course jagged edges such a relatable song for me. Oh my God welcome to the day. I hope you guys had a great weekend Danielle. How was your weekend was was fantastic sporting events outside most of the time and it was just glorious where we are it was so beautiful it was in the in the eighties? It was so great the ACA short the tank top gone. How was your weekend? It was amazing. I was a total bum this weekend because I've been gone so much that all I wanted to do was just like catch up in sleep. I had plans to go play with the puppy. UPI nope didn't do it. Just let their everything in the funny so Daniel was in a tank top on the beach and you're on the couch for tank top <music> by the way that song that scary insisted we start the show with and Youtube Gandhi not my favorite wedding song he was so much techs Elvis deserves a lot better than that song gestion this. If you want to open the show with great wedding song you should open up with house of Pain uh-huh jump around around anyway so welcome to the day. Let's go talk to our first caller of the day it's Nicole. She's in the car all God. I wish I was in the car. We didn't Nicole whole Nicole's taking a road trip down to Myrtle Beach Florida how you doing I'm good. How are you guys OK? Okay Yeah Oh speaking of the return of Uncle Johnny this week L. Let's all get excited about the uncle. Well you know every pre-summer he goes out to fire island. He's he's a bartender out there but he's coming back so here. He comes a little more excitement for uncle. John Lewis met the wedding for the first time. We'll won't be gracing US someplace else. I think he's going to the wedding. Show with all of us here in Santa Fe on Thursday so there you go look. You're you pay so who within in the car on your road trip to Myrtle Beach Nicole I'm with my husband who just finished college and got his degree. I've got my six year L. Daughter my four year old son and my two year old son a while you gotta Har- carful wow but road trips are fun though I love a good road trip trip. I wish we could all win the lottery and take one lifelong road trip so look have a lot of fun in Myrtle beach. You got the beach what you know what by the way myrtle beach didn't hit too hard so with all the storms and stuff so I thank you I'm I've been I was freaked out all week and as soon as we got the all-clear clear we got super excited again all right retract your freakish. You're good and what are we had to send a straight nate this radio strategic. They hit the mother lode. You want an all cotton Elvis Duran morning show shirt Nicole have a wonderful trip. We're GONNA it does we're GonNa ruin in ways you just wheel. It will discuss you hold on one second okay. Let's go around the room. Go get going. We'll start with you Gandhi. What's on your mind before the show gets okay opened a piece of mail today that made me so happy? It almost made me teary and you know how hard that is so a woman named Nadia Korea sent me this letter. I'm showing it to you Elvis on right in front of you so she says that she really likes that. I've joined the show and that I'm unapologetically me which I really appreciate and that's nice hi so she wrote a book for little kids about how it's great to just be yourself and that you don't have to be anything super spectacular ridiculous but being yourself as the best gift you can be and and it made me so happy and I love her for it. Thanks Nadia that yeah. The book is called limelight going to be even if you're a hag the offer but I'm okay with me HAG. How are you today okay? I was once part part of the alumni wall of fame at my Alma Mater Edward R Murrow High School in Brooklyn place in a recent visit. I realized allies everything. Pertaining to me was gone so upset that I saw the principal principal barge on instagram welcoming the kids back to school on instagram. I went on the threat. I'm like hey what's taken down my stuff because because it was just a reminder. He said it was an error. He says that will be put back up. He can't believe this happened. Sell apologized to me for taking down the scary Jones Wall of fame and high school well. I thought you were shamed. It was something I said right they Weinstein. Do you buy Hi Danielle. What's on your mind? I got bad news. We'll get into that later but I just want people to stop being asses okay the talking about Antonio Brown what he did okay so. If you don't know the whole store you gotta Google it but anyway he got released from the Oakland raiders this this weekend and instead of just being graceful about it. He posts like this video of him being like you're like such a Douche bag move the thing that went down it was just a douchebag don't douchebag. That's come on. It's Monday. Let's have spent free week. Take a divorce from an awful former for him are by the way Daniel Daniel Daniel is asking the world. Please stop being an ASS. Isn't that the week off without the Douche bag every <hes> by the way so we'll just send a text for Gandhi Gandhi who in the world makes plans aims to pet a puppy me. Hello I show you my phone. I even asked other people in the room if they wanted to come with me we're. Where was this puppy so my friend? Jamie's roommate got a new puppy. His name is Tucker and he's the cutest little thing ever so. I was like I'm GONNA come over. Let's get into our horoscopes with one and only like producer Sam. Hi Producer Sam Mike on us. How was your weekend good really good? Thank you all right who you're doing with. I want to start your wedding adding weekend with some positive energy I need. Are you ready Krathong good here we go if it's your birthday today you you share it with Adam Sandler favorite and also Michael Boo blame. We'd love `Capricorno. You may have a lot of work to do. Don't be overwhelmed. This could bring new the opportunity your date and eight Aquarius. You've been very efficient lately but may need a break find time to relax and focus on self care your days seven icees positive energy. She is coming your way. Share this feeling those that might need it so I know you're having fun but you're sort of diluting the message kids. Could you just okay ramone. Sally is relaxed areas. There's a lot of unfinished work or communication surrounding you take advantage of the sudden motivation you might right and counter your days and eight or as it's important to focus on your smaller accomplishments. This could get you a step closer to that bigger goal your day a NI- Hi Gemini. You're radiating confidence. Don't allow others opinions to ruin this feeling your days attended a creative project. You've been ignoring might need some extra extra attention. This might be the opportunity. You've been searching for your day on nine. Leo You're looking for an adventure. Try something new and let it lead you to new new connections your days at ten virgo. You may find an answer to a problem faced use this as an opportunity to put energy into something new your day in eight libra pay attention to your surroundings. Today you could positively affect someone near you your attend Scorpio a cancellation may provide extre time use this time to get caught up on work or do something. You've always wanted to do your day nine serious. Someone new might approach you for help. This could lead to a new important relationship. You're as a ten and those are your Monday morning. HOROSCOPES smugly couldn't end fast enough. Thank you the three things you need to know. Gandhi what's going on all right. The government of the Bahamas says it is not covering up the number of dead ad from Hurricane Doreen so so far the death toll has reached forty three and it's expected to climb the problem is they say that they are really focused on helping the people who are in need about seventy thousand people doc without food water and shelter. They do expect that number to climb a lot. They're saying it should get into the hundreds maybe even thousands but that the focus is on helping the people who are alive right now again. If you want to help out redcross dot org and you can also go to y one hundred dot com to see where we're going to be in that area collecting stuff the world's second-biggest fashion retailer Taylor says they're not going to be buying any leather from Brazil for a long time H. M. Says that because of what's going on in the Amazon and the bad response that they don't want any part of what's what's happening there. Other retailers have done it as well including vans Timberland and north face and finally this this irony show Danielle this morning because it gave me a heart attack a woman in India who was seventy four years old just gave birth to healthy twins last seventy years old so there's hope for everyone in this room scary. If you're trying how kids don't worry. They said it happened through in vitro fertilization that this couple had been trying for fifty seven years to have their own children it finally early works. The kids are healthy and the mom even went through a mental evaluation to make sure that she was ready to be a mom and she is. They're thrilled that so sweet so the twins born to seventy four year old woman yes so she has to go down. They have to go down to her knees to breastfeed. They have if they want nursing ready for your Monday. Let's have a Monday hey guys this is Selena. Gomez what's up. It's Fletcher <music> out how dare you what Mr Enemy Elvis Duran and the morning show. I've always loved hot sauce but now with Chiluba in my life I love it even more. It's filled with unique flavor and just enough heat. What's not to like so grab your bottle of Tshiluila the one with the wooden cap in in the morning show all right all right so here? I am in Santa Fe waiting for you guys to come out for the big wedding. The big wedding weekend can't wait so Daniel. Do you want to tell the secret about what I did for you because we didn't want anyone else to know. I did this because he was afraid he. I don't know why oh you didn't want it but okay. I'll tell you why go ahead and tell them the secret. I'll tell you why didn't want anyone to know okay so my dress has a lot of tool underneath it so I was afraid that that if I took it on the plane and packed it whatever it would look like a big mush when I got to Santa Fe so I said to Elvis Hey. How are you getting out there her? Do you mind taking my dress because coming back. I'll shove in his suitcase who cares it's just getting out there and he's like yeah sure. Bring it in and I'll take it for you so he he was nice enough to take it for well. Here's the thing is it since we already have all of our close out here we don't we don't bring any don't bring bags. We don't bring anything so Daniel knew that took advantage of it and said here can you sneak my dress onto your plane and we'll go all right so we flew out with so I was afraid when you found Gandhi I would be bringing your address to Komo salty right now addresses addresses from one more thing. I have to carry so anyway so we we brought it up. I folded it up and put it. What do you mean you sold? It supposed to be folded up and brought. Hey Sandra calm down Daniel. The thing is if you fold it's in this. It's nice bags. If you fold it it's supposed to keep it is supposed to keep it from rankling. Put it in the overhead thing above me. It's the only thing the looking looking glass I made needed. New Dress like a left got six of them. I'm sure you could find return from yesterday. She's she bought more Lisa. FROGGIES looks flat. It looks like a beautiful day and you. Are you sure you want people to see this. People have all seen it already. Gorgeous look sloppy bigger. The bottom part was the puffy huffy part trash trying to see if it's rankle. I think he's here's the key to packing and you did the right thing. Yeah you have to put the plastic mastic over. It and I think that that materials tends to pack pretty well. Oh I'm going to look to all this stuff at the bottom of the major poof out the policy. I mean it's not too poofy but it's just a little goofy also second translation. Your picture is in the dictionary. It's actually spelled a little differently. It just looks a little flattened dress looks good. Thank you okay at lease it made it. There of me will was so worried. We had to bring Alex's mom's dress out we brought. It's like just as a little more important than we're checking at the airport. They were looking through the because we were going to carry all this stuff on. We didn't want to check bags so we so we had to dresses with us. So we're going to a drag queen convinced the Gosh. What are you GonNa do all right? Let's get into producers. Sam's field goods for your Monday out because had a great weekend was it good people are asking what tool is. I think it's spelled T. U. I L. E. isn't it was L. L. E. U. L. Yeah because there's so look it up. People always love to Texas. What is what do simple Google pretty easy because it's kind of hard to explain? It's like big puffy feed yeah stuff that makes dresses fluffy. Yeah it's flu. They don't ask me how to sell flu. It's Tutus are made of yes. Please don't ask me to to Okay Sam. It's all you all right so rebecca. Hilbert sent me this and it has to be so happy so Daniel you by various team shirts for your boys. It's not that they can get expensive right okay so when a boy from elementary school was bullied for showing up with a Homemade University of Tennessee vol- shirt that really that's just not okay. He couldn't afford one. He tapes a logo that he drew on top of an orange shirt to make his own team. Shirt and kids were really horrible double about it but the university found out and they actually decided to make the boys homemade logo into official shirt. It's awesome. That's awesome. It's amazing you can do it end. You will be supporting stomp out bullying because they're an amazing non for profit which portion of proceeds are going towards. The shirt is so oh cute. We're going to tweet it out and honestly the design crash the website over the weekend so it was a major success though good job two volts you guys are amazing thing and if you have a story that deserves to be featured email me Sam at Elvis Duran Dot com subject line bill dudes. Thank you Sam back right after this Alvis cowboys versus durant what is it with these people Elvis Duran and the morning show tax does fifty five one hundred the rates may apply durant in the morning show all right so here's the thing it is football season so you can it always tell football season hits it all kind of shifts you know it's a whole different mindset as far as as far as your weekly <hes> TV viewing like for instance <hes> froggy was watching the dolphins game this past weekend not only did Nick Nick foles break his collarbone well that was the jags gain of the jags aims to I'm getting all my teams and the now you're watching the jags game and nick foles broke his collarbone so he's out then the dolphins down below their thing. I don't even know what happened there. I'm fair weathered sports fan. So you know what I'm saying but the dolphins they haven't been crushed this badly since scary felony dolphin at Atlantis. Don't miss this dolphin swim civil left often only swims to the left never forget anyway so the Dolphin. Here's what I heard to tell me. If this is right or wrong the dolphins are so bad that members of the team are actually going into the management's office in begging them to trade them off. The team is correct that can't be true. They had Kosovo's they were losing four. They were Ravens. Put up forty two points in the first half the final Donald Scores fifty nine hundred ten after the game multiple. They said many players reached out to their agents and went to management and said nobody here is trying trying to win. I don't WanNa play here anymore. I WanNa go somewhere else. They're trying to clean house so badly that people are trying to say fire them ask Aska. What did he do Great T? He says he wants to say something on the to this point around Oh. He's on his throne okay well. I thought he was going to come in. This break headed all planned. I don't know what happened. Coming in WHO's producing the show okay. I know that he had an issue you with the Dolphin thing and I think great t feels that he's so irritated by all of us his co workers that he wants to be off the team. Oh does he okay okay. Well Anyway doesn't matter let's get into the Daniel Report Daniel. What's the first thing you want to tell us about well? First of all Miley Cyrus she came out with a video before her song slide away so check that when you get a chance and you know post Malone was talking about Mac Miller because we lost Mac Miller a year ago and they were planning on doing a joint album mm together imagine what that would have sounded like yeah that would have been it is really is great. I if you missed it last week. Orlando Bloom told Howard stern that his manhood isn't really that big now. Here's my question did you. Landau blooms mandate. A lot of us is care Elvis. I'm not I'm with you on hold on is he more or less of a guy when you find out the size of his his schilling oh he's the same to me but I still wanted. I was curious curiosity. Do you know what kicks off today. What Kelly Clarkson's his new show and the rock is actually on the premier? I think Kevin Hart was supposed to be but we know what happened with Kevin Hart so now he has taken over the raucous taken over over and apparently she is just like she is Kelly Clarkson. Just tells it like it the way she is Katie do see your on. Jimmy Fallon's tonight show last night game. She was awesome. Let's see I love her tonight show there on on NBC every Sunday night after the game. Jimmy was talking about that the but anyway the other day but I love her just like you. You said Daniel. She is who she is. I think I hope for show does well. We Love Kelly even comes out and says things like why are people wrapping country music nowadays. It's country music like she. It doesn't sound like whatever cares speaking of Kevin Hart Tiffany Haddish is saying that he is walking already. I also heard though that he is going to have to go go to a lot of physical therapy before he gets back to normal. TMZ says he is an excruciating pain but he's in a positive mood depending on where you looked pens on what what you find out about him but our best they'll go out to Kevin Hart. Hopefully I'll only be fine. <hes> so pink turned forty over the weekend her husband carry hard posted posted this really cool tribute to her posted a slight Joel photos featuring them over the past twenty years. They've been together twenty years what Yup and he basically said welcome to forty baby. I've celebrated eighteen birthdays with you and I can say it's amazing growing up with you <hes> full-blown praise for his wife <hes> she's so successful. She's amazing a wine drinker a philanthropist as supportive wife a motorcycle Mama and the most beautiful woman he's ever seen Momma. She is a motorcycle Mama totally totally. I know me too <hes>. Ah Let's see <hes> Kim Kardashian. I don't know if you see I don't know how much I can say about this because it happened last night. Last night was the season premiere of Cuban up with the Kardashians so Kim Him has been having a lot of joint pain lately so she went for some blood work. Maybe that's all I can say. I'm GONNA say 'cause. He sees <unk> a lot of people. The KARDASHIANS is like a big thing and I don't want to ruin it because people may not have seen it live and let's talk about Felicity Huffman. Shall we see says she paid to have her daughters. Sat score rigged because she wanted to a you ready for this. Give you are a fair shot at college guys a fair shot and she worried that her low matt scores would kill her dreams of becoming an actress. That's the dumbest sentence that I've ever heard put together together. I just I just can't even asking for Math Info when they go for an audition to be an actress or Your College Degree exactly the fiftieth season premiere of Monday night football going down tonight New Orleans saints and the Texans you also have the raiders and the Broncos so you think you can dance top four will be performing bachelor in paradise on a little lip think to the rescue with cedric the entertainer and next hour we have to talk about a Justin Bieber fan went at him and he went right back good. You you know what I'm the only one who defends Justin Bieber. No one's love beat maybe when he comes up here and you don't have the history we have at the beach do not be great t yes my sweetheart. I heard you were going off in the back today this morning before the show. There's an article out today about the almost irritating things your coworkers can do yeah. Do you have the article in front of you. Gandhi L I can get it yeah. Give me one I had it. I cannot find it anywhere our way so I heard that you were like the have the ten things they say are the most irritating things workers can do. We do nine and great teeth part of it. He was bad this morning. I have had enough what and it seems like the trend around these parts you know now that the Miami Dolphins took the asked in that they took the veterans are demanding a trade so I'm figuring you know what let me just hop on the Treaty Bandwagon and demand myself a trade <music>. I'm a veteran of the Elvis Duran morning show and I too and demanding a trade okay so here's the thing when you trade. Don't you trade for something of equal or better value along better value value. I really bring so. I just want to train. We would have to find a radio morning show that has like seventy five employees to trade for you. Wow that's a lot I mean. Maybe we need seventy five more of you to trade for them out of here I want out I found the article yes they say the top three things that that are annoying that are co workers do poor hygiene now t to any of us have poor hygiene. Do we smell no but scares bathrooms kind of disgusting and his apartment so I was just this curious Ben Number two thing that's most irritating about co workers ignoring email. That's that's of course nate yeah. Absolutely he does not address anything I I texted him or email me. He didn't care too care to fend for yourself here. Keep going down the list all right number three <hes> annoying thing or co workers do leaving a mess in the kitchen. Now people duly messes around here all the time I would say that Brody's pretty messy and what is conditions. He doesn't really care he always cooks. The conditions gusting and that also Danielle I would say is an absolute slob. She's got boxes all over the place and her a desk is a mess. That's slob organ. You're a hoarder your order. He leaves conditions in the in the kitchen. Yeah that's right the interrupting interrupting now. I know you guys great to you all work back in the bull ring. So there's a lot of you and sharing the same space you do find it becomes a little irritating when everyone is talking at the same time and having arguments and stuff and you're trying to get your work. That's correct. I'm very I'm very diligent getting my work done and when everybody is just carrying on having having a grand old time yelling and screaming on Fridays especially it's like oh we just have a big fun time. I feel like they're taking their off of work and they're like it's. It's a party and they need to be more focused. Organization is the key to success. If we trade Greg T he is my desk mate. Can I have his desk to not my stuff over trade him for someone or something. Somebody else's come in there right Johnny. If we can find a morning show can just make a good ham sandwich betrayed great t for a ham sandwich. I want out so are you more annoyed about people interrupting your work or interrupting your forty five minute naps. I'm more well. That's good God that's the seven bathroom breaks she take a day dad's right frog I mean but who's counting the two of them already. They come in and interrupt your fantasy football research really busy. I will say last week. Nate was very annoying. He kept on interrupting yeah. I was in the fifth round. I was trying to get somebody Bach draft. Do you prepare. This is a big thing fantasy football. That's true all right so we need to find a morning show that wants to do a trade. You just like they're trying to do at the Dolphin. Can we back up and talked talk about that for a second. Froggy told me the story earlier this morning about how the players were actually lined up at Management Office to beg to be traded traded Craig. I mean what is the morale like. Do we have any more information on that. That's the problem is prior to the season. They got rid of Kiko Alonzo. They got rid of Laremy Tunsil. They got rid of Kenny stills. They got rid of a lot of players that were their best talented players and so now the talk around the League is that the dolphins are just trying to tank and be really bad to get a high draft. Pick the players that are still there. These guys have pride they WanNa win and so the players think they're not trying to win. They want out and dolphins are saying they are trying to a win but after losing fifty nine to ten yesterday it's hard to believe that they're really not even a score. That's like like I said before. I don't nothing about sports and whatever so it's the I just find this this story interesting look at where you work. Okay wherever you work in in this world. You're driving to work with now thinking about your your work. Can you imagine if all of you walked into the office to the manager Andrew instead we gotta go places really sucks well. That's why I'm taking. I'm the first one L. This. This place sucks. I want to you get the chairs broken. We got fingernail clippings on the top of the on the desk. I found a pair of socks in the room today. The place a mess not was going off this money. You know it's just he and I alone for a while. He was mad. God knows that's right. Tom Tell what I was saying about. The area he was screaming about socks oxy was screaming about my desk because they're too many boxes. What do people think it's ups over yeah by the way those were toenails not forgetting reading something? He's yelling at us this crap on the floor for entertainment carpeting now because of him they said it was great before but this for the show you crap on the floor whatever it takes to make the audience love US nights sure. Did you do trade him for like text messaging program. You don't like the moments now we're figuring out. Look the bottom line. What is this we love you if we could all try to work together to make this place a little cleaner yeah? Maybe a little less mass here a little less stack of of trash over there all right. I'm not asking for much but you need to though like what else can I possibly do. What else can I do anything on something the weight on my shoulders my around head the go-to Dunkin donuts now by the way Gregory Gregory so the whole show is going to be out here at the Santa Fe studio in my house on Thursday morning yeah yeah you're going to be here right? I am flight coming on Wednesday. I will not finish. It's a yes or no question so what we've done is engineer jeff if has set up the house not only do we have the studio upstairs but we have microphones and headphones that can go all around the house so you're in charge of catering. You'RE GONNA downstairs in the kitchen making his breakfast Thursday morning nicer bathroom bathroom I got we got lots of bad. Did we should tell me what he did with his flight like an idiot. It wasn't my fault so we all all are flying out after the morning show either on Tuesday or on Wednesday because to do a show well T- booked his flight for early in the morning. It's totally forgetting he had to do a show. I the bill back. This is wedding week. You know we got. We got to get you guys. All Santa Fe in one piece but we're doing shows man. We got a job too seriously. I quit Iran. Elvis durant. I love musicals. Hiring isn't easy but there is one place you can go where hiring is simple and smart that that place is ziprecruiter where growing businesses connect to qualify candidates try it for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash Elvis ziprecruiter the the smartest way to hire. Oh my God five. We got a phone tap on the way a brand new phone tap who is doing it scary brody with all with an accent. He already has an accent. He is like a a mean old Jewish joie accent all his accent's blur into each other like Jewish man could be Chinese anyway. Welcome to the day around the room of course in New York City. We've got Gandhi Danielle and there's nate and their Scotty and there's days brody and a producer in and out in great tea of course in Florida as froggy here in Santa Fe. It's me dog Max and look just walked in Mr Elvis Duran. I'm sorry Mrs Elvis Duran Palestine Alex. Everyone Asks Alex. If I'M GONNA go by Elvis car now no do you WanNa Know Alex. Are you going to be Alex Alex Duran. Maybe no no we're fine just the way we are so it's only like what's what time is it here. It's like five something and he crawls upstairs to do. I'm like what are you doing up so early. Why abso- early because I'm well rested yesterday has slipped on the plane and then when I got here I took a nice power nap and now I'm wide awake? He genio about how I was wearing her wedding. He says look I think it looks better on me. Go right right ahead. I'll wear your suit. It's all good you should. We'll get more into wedding talk later but anyway we'll good morning husband to be low. The thing about this is not a wedding. It's a quote unquote gay wedding. Can I call you hubby now. You cannot everyone's talking about their outfits. They're getting and stuff yeah. It's going to stores and telling the people who work at the stores hi. I need to get dressed for a gay wedding. That's so stupid. A wedding is a wedding. Why do we have to call it a gay wedding you don't you don't well according to froggy and scary innate? You had to write while why it's the boys obviously it's the boys room I wanNA make sure I I wanNA share. Look Nice when I show up and so I have gotten the attention and help of people who I thought would understand how I should look at at your web okay. We'll get into that a little bit later. Hang on all right the gay where it's just a wedding I think we should move the name gay yeah. My husband had no problem finding something totally the British so anyway so alleys here of course a high alley gold good morning when everything anything and everything that's on our social social media it's all alleyway and we love doing a great job but alley as you know she has different. She has a hose in different area codes. Don't you have a boyfriend in Atlanta the boyfriend you're flying in Santa Fe for the wedding is La La Atlanta San Francisco report report. It's one of those things where I travel for work so when I go to these places you know might need someone there well anyway so she's bringing you special guy from her. La Office to the wedding okay so as you guys may or may do you not know facebook. has this new dating feature right is that right Gandhi yes facebook dating APP aaliyah joins irresponsibly and so what did you learn Gandhi. What did I learn about alley and the facebook dating APP okay so the dating APP has this one feature called like secret crush rush so you're supposed to be able to go on there and then you can like your own friends friends of friends and if they like you back then you have a little secret connection however it's not a secret as you would think a remain well Allie went on and started just lighting people up like and I'm left and right because the term secret crush would indicate? It's a secret acre yeah little. Did she know know. All of these dudes can see the alleys over here like I like I like people. I knew that had girlfriends 'cause. That's why not break Geico so what happened. Did you start getting response from these guys like they have to actually join the APP in order to see that I crushed on them so no one saw that you were liking. No one likes to be back out. It's like a few days yeah. It's not even they didn't hose of different area. Maybe without seem to know more about this facebook dating at than anyone else so now that she them up I mean if they ever do sign on. Will they see that she she had a crush on. If they sign up for the APP which would be questionable these guys girlfriends the sign up for the APP flooded with Alli likes you. Whoa what's it called? I gotTA download stopping next weekdays dummy this week. You're not doing that then. You're nailed down was talking to me about it and she's like. I don't know what's what's going on here. I was like maybe I need to sign up for the help you. I didn't do it but I really wanted her because it's very confusing. They don't explain it very well. He's GonNa ask you so Mr L. A. who alley who you're bringing to the wedding this weekend does he know about Mr San Francisco and Mr Atlanta I mean do. They know that you're just a casual now. Now we love you alley. All right thank you everyone go right here. The the alley I love holly is my favorite hot mess. I love she really is the best anyway so. I'm so excited excited for this weekend. Let's get into the free things you need to know from Gandhi all right if you think that the Bahamas and the government are trying to cover up the number of dead from Hurricane Doria and they say absolutely not that so far the death toll has forty-three they expect it to climb by hundreds maybe even thousands but so many people are missing and so many people are without food water and shelter. That's their main focus. They are trying to figure out how to take care of seventy thousand people who have been displaced as we always say redcross dot org or you can go to y one hundred entered Miami dot com or why one hundred dot com and they will tell you where you can donate not only money but some goods as well all right almost all British Airways flights have been canceled. I don't even know what I would do if every single area cancelled it here but those pilots are on strike and in a statement I know they actually said that. The members resolve is very strong so so we're not really sure when this is GonNa end if you plan on flying anywhere over there to their from their Britain British pilots every every single flight canceled. Oh we have friends coming in from <music> more check on it back to you. Does anyone want to bridge a free bridge while Missouri is giving away nine bridges but there's only one catch. You have to pay for the transport on your own. How are you getting a bridge? Suffering proposals are due by next March so if you WANNA bridge you gotta get it in. Could we get one daddy any yeah well yeah. We're GONNA put a frigging breathe. Let's get one all right. Thank you very much. We do have a phone tap on the way done by David David Brody so you know guaranteed to Piss off everyone Danielle exactly considering to Monday. This is Dan Shea. Seth Brogan was Elvis Duran Joe hiring new employees used to be a hard challenge lynge multiple job sites stacks resumes a confusing review process but today hiring is easy when you're in charge of hiring someone for your growing business. You don't WanNa make a mistake stake. You need help. It's okay to have the best in the business. Be At your side. ZIPRECRUITER DOT com s