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"marino elway" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

WFAN Sports Radio_FM

03:39 min | 3 months ago

"marino elway" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM

"And then once they make it right, getting even in the minors the same thing. It's like you gotta be there. That's true taking days off, Otherwise, you're never getting getting the call up. And obviously, once you're in the major leagues, it Z just you settle in for a grind on and it's hard and you might go from the bus to the to the jet. But And and from the Howard Johnson to the four seasons, But you're still doing something every day. That's right. Yeah, you're hardened early. And the hockey analogy is interesting, too, because you know to get ice time for in the morning. You know, Mom's driving. You just have this image of the station wagon. Then you know the hockey moms and I'm like my friend Liam, right? Yes, that's seven years old. A good player, seven years old is a good player. Was asking Tom and Lindsay were over the other day, and we were just talking about Liam. And as I can't what's hockey ramping up and they said he has a month and a half off all year. Right? And I'm not. I'm not a big supporter. Great and not a couple of years they're gonna play 65 games. Beating what age like 10 or 11 like that 65 games. I was like, Wow. I don't know, man. You know, I've told you different commitment for hockey, bro. It is. I've talked to a lot of dads. Um, started gets to know some, you know, move on the You know this. I've only been in the neighborhood for about two years. And when we first moved here, you know, my son was three and my daughter was 18 months. So now you know, kids are now kindergarten and pre school. He's going to get to know some parents were doing some things T ball, etcetera. Like football, whatever travel baseball 99 game schedule, But still the point is starting to nose and dads were talking. Get to know some coaches. I am a firm believer. I can always speak to the sport that I played. The more I do not think I was taking you and I were texting about this the other day. You do not have to play everybody. You do what you gotta do, but you do not have to play 65 baseball games when your son or daughter softball is eight years old. I mean, You might think you have to for that child to get a spot in the starting lineup for you might feel compelled to pay $2000 because that's what the club team makes you pay. But if your child the ball, you don't need to waste your time playing to play all the sports Developed every every aspect of your body and then gravitate to eventually what you're best at. That's my philosophy, greed, and as we've seen that baseball skill will make you a great football quarterback. That's right. A J. The one hand it's Nick. He throws it. They touched down credits and Pat Mahomes and the Mark Jackson and got everybody. Dan Marino Elway, Right? Yeah, baseball player Dan Marino was drafted know that obviously, Elway was a superstar of the Minor Stanford Yankees, Oneonta. All right, let's get the update from act will come back inbounds out of bounds or rich Ackerman right now. See me? Yes. Sports sports flag guys. This report is sponsored by progressive insurance with insurance for cars, home boat, motorcycles, RVs and commercial vehicles at 1 800, progressive and progressive dot com. The NC double A tournament takes a back seat until protection, saying Take a break until Saturday After four dizzying days. The NBA can get overlooked during this month, but there is a good battle going on between the Nets. And six years for the top spot in ease with both in action Tonight, Sixes are up a game and out West to take on the Warriors. The Nets tip off a three game road trip in Portland. They won't have Kevin Durant or Kyrie. Irving James Harden is questionable, but Blake Griffin is in the lineup and head coach Steve Nash tries to incorporate them into the rotation. Blakes, an intelligent player, he can space to the floor, You have to guard him in three Is a good play maker with the ball so he can play off of Nick ruling or he could be the guy rolling playmaking. So you know, he's a versatile player. Intelligent player brings experience to our team, so hopefully he can play multiple lineups. 14th woman is now filed a suit against Texans quarterback to.

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"marino elway" Discussed on The BBQ Central Show

The BBQ Central Show

06:05 min | 1 year ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The BBQ Central Show

"New month that being the lovers month of February and we erase the hotline and welcomed the master of killer hogs barbecue and the co-creator of how to BBQ. Right Malcolm Reed joins us on the show. Hey Hey what's happening man. How are you my friend? I'm doing wonderful all right. So we're not in February two warehouse but are we at the home or we at the warehouse and we just got a different now. We're at home tonight. All right so why why is that. I just wonder when we make a you know me. I'm inside the box. Get used to stuff and when things change I immediately become sweaty palms and wondering what things are going to be happening abuse locked out and happened to be at home. No yeah just dropped across town to the office. Well I certainly understand that. That's a swell pig that you got behind you there too who I mean. That's probably the Motif of the house more or less right yeah shells. She kind of has a theme go and especially the Kitchen Malcolm so let me we get your quick thoughts. I Know Your Big Sports Guy Did you have any thoughts on chiefs winning the Super Bowl or are you happy about that. Were you wait a second now that I think about it. You were would probably a little disappointed as you're a childhood San Francisco Forty niners fan if I remember correctly well I was big Joe Montana Fan when I was a kid and now I'm kind of I'm I'm I'm a vikings fan and have been for a long time. Oh I really didn't have much vested Andy Reid. Finally Getting Super Raleigh is a pretty good guy all respect his coaches before. I'm glad that you was able to switch teams because otherwise you could be completely conflicted man and where you have Joe Montana where his best years were San Francisco forty nine or guy but then at the end he was traded. The Kansas City chiefs worry ended the career. I mean that would have been a terrible terrible situation for you to be. He almost took the chiefs to the Super Bowl. Yes that's right. So it's why he's one of the best you think. He's the best quarterback ever he gets my vote. You know maybe Marino elway. They might be Brady. I'm not a big brady guy. My son's Brady Fan really. Why don't you like? Why do you think Brady radius is not top one or two me damn? Dan Marino didn't win any super bowls. Ever that's our group watching those the break. I'm ranking on the buy Sir Graham. Are you also a Jim Kelly Fan. Because I was a big Jim Kelly Fan. They want the four super bowls in a row and lost four in a row which no team has ever done but those those teams were spectacular. Otherwise I'm not a Jim Kelly. I mean he's he he deserves every bit of credits. He didn't win the big game but he did go to four. Yeah and I guess Aikman Aikman was kind of his thorn. They get beaten them every tom and then who else the giants the giants beat them. That was one of those Norwood. Missed the kick to win that one Laces out. I think that's kind of where the whole pet detective thing might came from unbelievable so you watch the game. I imagine food is a pretty big deal out there. So did you have any specific food items that you thought were great or big hit. Well well Saturday. I kind of did it instagram day. where I was I was cooking up San Francisco versus the Kansas City style recipe did a gold rush California gold rush wings for the forty niners took kind of a play on a muster barbecue sauce mixture sherata and the hot sauce and butter and did some wings things up on the grill and then also did just in Kansas City style ribs and I don't know if it'd been tells you anything that the Kansas City ribs one Saturday so so I'm hoping that's what do you early dog navigator right there I see what you're doing. GimMe some grilled wing being tips. Because I've been getting a lot of questions myself. I don't necessarily consider myself a respected cook. I mean I have a lot of time on the grill but but I mean you are somebody that people are approaching what what's a tip or maybe something in a process that people don't typically do that might help them get that wing gang up the notch. Well if I'm grilling wings I like to have a twos on fire because with wings you gotta break that fat down. I gotTa Kinda render it song. So I'll start on off the direct heat and as they start getting closer a move them over at crispell mop. And that's when I put the sauce or anything that I want to put them over the direct. TV that way kind of charge it up. It gets saw that flavor in there If I'm cooking them on the smoker pellet grills something like that I'm I'm ramp in the temp up and cook it on my like three twenty five. The whole time I disliked poultry cooked up that that hot and it really breaks wing down and cook them way past one. Sixty five where they're done. You know white meats 165. I'll look for like one ninety. Eight eight to two hundred degrees in my wings if I get the two zero two. It's fine I like it too where I can pop the bone out. It comes out clean. And he's got a good bottle of winning. That's how I like to eat them. Does the the dry out when it gets up into that temperature. You don't find that I think wings have so much fat in them Greg is is it renders down it keeps that moisture juicy now I you know. Of Of course we kept Cook Yummy eventually gonNA drown out but the textures good up with US hot tips on Williams forgiving much like a thought Scott Gaza. We're cooking chicken. Cooked hotter when seventy me five so it kind of has the same premise to it. When you are prepping the wing do you do anything I've been seeing recently is a coat? The wings in cornstarch or an hour to before you put them on the grill stick them in the refrigerator and that cold air is going to help dry the skin out out which leads ultimately to a crispier top. Well I'll do a little drop ron on them. It's just a little upset for a while. That's about Audu I have cooked some with the cornstarch networks crispy wing of set up a Webber Grill Vortex for that it makes it real crispy wing is it crispy or or is it. I don't want to assume you've been to a hooters and had their wing which to me. That's the only good thing.

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"marino elway" Discussed on Sports Wars

Sports Wars

04:38 min | 1 year ago

"marino elway" Discussed on Sports Wars

"It's September thirtieth two thousand one in in Foxborough Massachusetts the home of the New England Patriots. It's a sixty degree day at the PAT stadium located just outside of Boston and the high flying Indianapolis Colts are in town as the team's warm up on the field Tom Brady sees him in the distance. The Guy Everyone says this is the next Marino elway and Montana all rolled into one Peyton. Manning as Brady's sneaks peeks at the Colts qb oh be from across the field. It's clear to him. That Peyton is poised confident. Brady fully understands all the hype he knows. Manning has earned it brady. He hasn't seen another. QB This cool and calm and smart in the pocket. Since he watched in awe as Joe Montana commanded the niners offense in the eighties. He's with kickoff approaching. Brady sees his chance to say hi real quick. He makes eye contact with Peyton. And the two quarterbacks meet on the field before Brady even figures out how to introduce himself the future face of the NFL extends a massive right hand. He says hey. Tom Brady thinks to himself. Yeah Dude I obviously know who you are. The colts are to know and while it's still early they have the most host explosive offense in the league with Peyton leading the way the Patriots. Meanwhile are Owen to. Tom Brady and overlooks sixth. Round pick is making his first career. NFL start under center for reasons unrelated to Brady though. No pats fan wants to see Brady started quarterback today last tweak. The team's franchise quarterback drew bledsoe was hurt on a scramble against the jets. BLEDSOE's been the face of the franchise and led New England to a super bowl just a few seasons seasons ago. He's the highest paid player on the roster and now he's been replaced by an unproven backup. Sure Brady completed a handful of passes last week when Bledsoe went down but he wasn't able to secure a patriots win but today head coach. Bill Belichick has no choice. BLEDSOE is badly really injured. So it's Brady or bust. After his brief chat with peyton Brady returns to a sideline to stay loose before kick-off if he's he's at all nervous for his first start it's not showing TV cameras. Zoom in on his face just before kick-off so Tom Brady gets his first career start at the national astle football league at quarterback he saw action against the Detroit lions last season and completed. Three passes came in for duplex or last week in the fourth quarter. Tell us about what does he bring to. The table watchmen practice. Friday made all the throws has strong enough arms to hit that out route and really feels. Confident Beck. Wasn't nervous at all. It was kind of surprised Eh. I play he takes a sack soon. Though after a few plays he settles down in part due to a simplified playbook doc coach Belichick doesn't need him to win the game he just doesn't want him to lose. It Brady manages his way through a few unremarkable. Plays but then something happens on the other side of the field Peyton. Manning starts struggling with New England's defense he throws an interception that the pats return earn for a touchdown early on and then it gets worse before it gets better for now trailing thirty seven in the fourth quarter. Peyton knows that this this embarrassment of a game is on him and convinces himself that he needs a big play to turn things around. He trusts his arm and nose. indies coaches do too two so he lets it rip again. Downfield the Peyton snaps office Chinstrap and trots off the field with his head head down soon mercifully for him. The game is over in the first matchup of manning versus Brady the Patriots win in a blowout forty four to thirteen that underdog kid who nobody wanted. Well he put forth a clean workmanlike effort. And just got the better of one of the game's James Best and most promising quarterbacks and it's not just a single win it's the start of an all time. NFL rivalry.

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

12:25 min | 1 year ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"They have to do you even may even my son didn't like recommend he's basically the target audience so we have a big football weekend to discuss I don't want to start the pocket man. I'd rather just talk Rochman. Let's start with saints. Vikings let's all right. I could see why you'd WanNa start with that. Let's go there. Let's go there because that to other games that that blew up a lot of parlors it blow up the ladder teases. It blew up the playoff picture. It made the path breath for the forty niners. Suddenly look a hell of a lot easier and I did you do the niners. Did the niners four to one ripe for the playoffs. You do that or no. I did niners chiefs for Super The ball yes yes Ford But Saints was the biggest favourite and like like you said lot of people had it on a teaser or moneyline pilot silly me. Let's start here. The saints have had five really really dumb. Founding terrible playoff losses this decade since they won the super bowl but the irony they won the Super Bowl so brazen payton they kind of have the permanent immunity. Pass right if you're just judging them by the Ba- past ten years they've blown games in every conceivable. Oh boy I actually shot so two thousand eleven. That was when they ten point favorites against Seahawks Hasselbeck threw four. Td's beast mode the whole the thing. One of the biggest upsets of the century in the playoffs. The next year was the one when the niners they three point three and a half point favorites over the niners they took took the lead member and that Alex Smith came down. Yes go ahead touchdown to Vernon Davis in the last ninety seven seconds in the game on mall back so that was awful then end in two thousand eighteen the digs miracle. Td which is really probably the worst loss of this decade all things considered other than seahawks. Bats it's then last year that rams game which everybody blames the terrible on pass interference call but they also blue that game nineteen different ways and then what we had today eight point favorites against Kirk cousins at home. And then take care of business. Why do we can say why? Do we continue to say that. Sean Payton is such a great coach. Let's start there. Well yeah I mean to crystallize what you just said. Three playoff losses on the last play of the game last three playoff losses and ls six six playoff losses. Were one score. And Sean Payton. I feel come to Dallas this. This sounds perfect. It sounds like a perfect perfect. What are we waiting for just doing? I joked that the loser of this game Vikings Saints. The coach had come to Dallas. Anyway you know coach Zimmer starred there too but Yeah and I was also thinking the other way like if they don't win against Peyton if they didn't want against the colts and that onside kick super bowl this is. This is the most tortured fan base. I know you have losing T.F. For decades and decades but every loss like this this would be a number one at the top but Yeah Yeah I just we watch a few minutes and you're like okay. This is This is all of a sudden. This is just too good teams in the Vikings. Have the better rushing attack so yeah. Aikman clearly had ideas because he you can always tell the announcers the confidence they have and the people they talk to the day before the game today is for the game in about halfway through the quarter. He's he's like Mike Zimmer. He thinks they can win. This game right every off fifty. Three guys think they're winning and it was one of those things. Where if you're like us and you had the saints in a in a tease you're ear like Oh oh? I was kind of that but ben speaking speaking of Aikman like I love Aikman but not great aikman moment when he's tastes him hills taking the snap and he's like Any play without drew brees on the field is not a good play offensively for the saints and taste the mill does the forty yard completion to the three and then everyone's like the breeze fumbles and he throws the pick before the half like. I don't maybe teddy to gloves your come in or or a little more tastes. I'm hill what are we doing here yet. Tastes of who was in the running for best quarterback. Doc We watch this weekend yes for sure he was really good and and it seemed like every time he is in the game. The Vikings didn't really know what to do I e regardless they kinda China latest pseudo egg the sentence and yet still had a chance to win the game. They get a stop. It's like about two forty five left. Something something like that. Minnesota's punting them. They have one time I left. I don't use it right. We've seen this over and over again. This is actually the most egregious version as you're not using the timeout. Because by the time the Vikings actually punted and the guy caught it and started running back it also went over the two minute warning so then they lose that time out yet so they keep a time out instead of just saving the forty seconds but then they also blow the two minute warning. They finally get the ball one fifty five they end up running seven plays they have the stupid penalty with the runoff. And then somehow keep the timeout run off. Like wouldn't you want twenty one seconds Atkinson's twenty one seconds. You could run any play. Get to the line of scrimmage spike it any play even a sack you can get everybody back won't be able to figure it out but they they accept the Brown. They kicked a field goal with time outlast. Especially because you have drew brees who's allegedly one of the best twelve to fifteen quarterbacks of all time when you trust him into throwing out three shots at the end zone or an out get closer whatever they made the field goal that didn't matter really but Not being able to cover Adam feeling did matter. Yeah I thought the Saints stunk and I thought they got outcoached now. Played and the saint time if I'm playing Minnesota and a playoff game. Nobody's beating me deep. You Kirk cousins can pick me apart. Eight ten eleven yards for the whole game. Fine keep it going but you're not throwing over the top OPPA me because if I'm if I'm making you. Duncan Duncan Kgo. Eight ten yards eventually gonNA throw the bottom here fumble or something. Are you talking you personally or you. Tom Saying if I'm running the saints it's all on its own eighty personally but I'm just that's the one way you're not beating me. And then cousins beat them over a couple of times. Yep I mean lattimore look lost on deal and now I I don't know it was a weird game and on the other side digs is freaking out. You know that they're winning the game. But right and thei- silence catching everything his way and digs is don't a temper tantrum and then like you know as Aikman pointed out correctly he's like I don't know if I don't know if cousins needs us this is a tough spot for him as it is now has has to look for digs rang on open. They're getting him involved in reverses right when digs is behaving like that. I'm sure you felt the same way. My default is just to think about how my son John Would Act exactly the way it was the ball. Exactly which your youngest kid prob is throwing a Tantrum. The oldest everything awesome. Aw Awesome Yeah. I'm not sure the right team won that game but I thought the vikings absolutely deserved to win it and thought they outcoached and outplayed them but the saints half to be kicking can themselves like absolutely had fifteen touches total and it seemed like every time they got him the ball and space. It's it was at least five six yards. Yeah and I don't know brees. Do you know what his playoff record is. Lifetime A little over five hundred. What is it when he's eight? visit a net. Yeah remember running the stat. This week so brady was is thirty and eleven now Or I may know his thirty and twelve or thirteen eleven. That's right. Manning was fourteen and thirteen five thirteen and eleven big Ben Thirteen and eight. Joe FLACCO ten and five. Kurt Warner Nine and four for Wilson is nine and five Rogers nine and seven. All those guys have more playoff Winston breeze why lies eight and four Phil rivers five and six. It goes back to that. Oh nine thing you think about you have that one running. You're just exempt for life and this happened Dirk Nowitzki in two thousand eleven pooja changed the of course of his legacy. Yeah we we've seen it over John Elway and ninety seven ninety eight. He went back to back. But Mike McCarthy's getting an interview tomorrow from the cowboys you know right. Yeah but the Super Bowl coach if it's within the last decade or whatever if that on side kick in the colts game yeah in the Super Bowl if they just don't get eh and then we spend the whole offseason talk about how dumb Sean Payton was. Do the onsite cake and Blah Blah and this is the end of this Bruce Breeze thing this would be a a really strange career to evaluate and I and I do think like he didn't make the NFL hundred and some people got upset about it. you know is basically between him five Rogers for that last by and in my mind he was third out of the three. I just feel like this has happened one too many times for him in the playoffs. And that's why you you don't end up making that list. We talked about him. It's funny Hanson. I and you're invited. But he didn't show up but DAMASEC. We talked about the top hand quarterbacks that we've seen because you can only go by really I know you can't you can go by little more than what you say. We Never Watch Jim Brown. We see the same five highlights of Jim Brown but his numbers bear out out with versus the rest of the League. But I like to be able to say Dan Marino I saw his receivers. You know super duper and Mark Layton. He should be held at a higher regard. Because neither of those guys were hall of famers. Right I can't. I can't talk about that with Otto. Graham but drew brees was ninth on our list. Best we've ever overseen I think you I think he'd be in your top ten to but he barely makes it. Yeah he definitely wouldn't be top seven or toppy no and even with the great numbers I mean as top two. Anyway you look at it. The numbers are a phenomenal. When we were growing up there was a lot of Marino elway? Yeah and Montana And then after Montana one that last super bowl when he throughout the TD's when. I was in college whatever year that was ninety or ninety one. Everybody's just kind of like Oh Montana's the best ever But then as as the careers careers went on and on everybody took their different sides. Right like elway was like the most gifted. Yeah but just didn't have the supporting cast and Boba Marino Marino was the one that scared me the most at. Yeah me which is what. Four hundred and twenty touchdown pass it. I mean you look at. I was looking like marine on my guard. Who am I missing? fouts or something. You look at Marino foul. It's it's it's night and day. I know it's it's ridiculous. How much better statistically Marino was Dan? fouts yeah we were. We were all texting. You may damage check in hand over the week about. Just how impossible Stephen compare the passing stats. 'cause back made the basically basically the seventies Cuba spot in one hundred he got that spot over Bradshaw. When we were growing up it was back in Bradshaw? They're just kinda together if you look look at the totality of Bradshaw's career. Four super bowls to to you could argue. He get it. I don't really care. I feel like they mattered pretty equally. It was weird to have one and not the other but then when you get to the eighties it was really great how away Marino Montana all carve their own way And I felt out I was terrified of all three of them Marino. Really really just made me lose the feeling in my toes. We if you're up three against him two minutes he was getting come down and score new. We move in this decade I put breeze and five to Mir pretty neck and neck by guys who were were you know from a lifetime record and all the stats and all that stuff really overpowering but in the moment it did feel like you could take him. You know like your team could beat in the right situation or they might throw a pick at the wrong time. Now the myth of Farve especially because of Matt and and You know some of the announcers who just just loved him right he really was a little more up and down especially you know especially after the late nineties. Yeah so you take those last few years especially at last year or two with the packers and Vikings Year where you know I think that was against the Saints Right. Yeah forty eight forty five or something crazy like that. Could that was backyard. Jarred football for like thirty. Two Games For him but man he's got Michael Thomas he's got Kamara. He's Got Jared Cook as I've spent I can't on ninety ninety different threads about how braided and enough help this year off..

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

11:05 min | 1 year ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"But I want to start with drew brees because you you brought this up this morning coming off a record setting night another record-setting night for drew brees. He might be at this point in the conversation for greatest of all time. But where does he rank for you. Let's dive right into it and want to get you involved in the conversation so make sure you call in the number that I gave before absolute right now. I haven't four ills and and look the is. Tom Brady paid man in Joe Montana and injuries. And look you can make arguments for a bunch of guys Marino elway Super Bowls Marino passing yardage and what he was able to do with the dolphins even without a super bowl absent at And then Brett Farve you got. It's a bunch of guys right depending depending on who you like. Drew Statistically supported that he's one of the greatest of all time One Super Bowl is a little bit of a knock but at the end of the day we all trying to get one when we play in that league. I Lisa got one. Two thousand eleven knocked out by San Francisco possibly a super bowl Minnesota miracle possibly super bowl run even though that was before the divisional game and then obviously we saw what happened against the rams so we could be sitting here today with drew brees potentially alien four super bowls now. I don't know how many of those he would have won. But let's just say fifty fifty fifty right. He goes he goes to for two. It's a whole different in conversation because the past records owned he's been a part of that. Here's the thing though. You have this conversation between Tom. Brady and I think Tom Brady said itself self apart so then when we get further into the conversation we talked paid men and Joe Montana injuries. I don't think we ever really considered drew. Brees the best. Why is back the lead? Why because pain was so great? Yeah at the time right. Think about this generation. We've had the opportunity to witness witness. We got three guys. That's in the greatest ever conversation crazy between Tom Paine Andrew so look. It's not bad to be mentioned. I just thought this morning born and we need to start having a serious dialogue about drew. brees potentially being one of the greatest if not the greatest quarterback play the game. I love it straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart. The thing that really came to mind for me too and that I loved about last night he was twenty nine for thirty. The man was almost perfect but the almost is what made him mad and drew brees said after he said look. I wanted to be more perfect that I was that one incompletion bothering me. We may even have this sound. I don't know do we know. Maybe we don't anyway. Oh link we do. We're going to listen to it in the meantime while we're queuing that up. You're listening to Marcus Spears. Laura Rutledge were filling in for Stephen A.. On this evening Smith Show and we are presented by progressive will be with you until three PM. Make sure you give us a call already see some. I'm great people on the line. It's one eight say. ESPN and if we can let's listen to what drew brees said after he broke another record. I don't know how they pick him Monday night. Football playing the colts team that we won the Super Bowl against ten years ago. So the the whole super forty four team is back for the ten th anniversary and obviously received national television. Now that record in the balance as well just kind of makes you shake your head you know. Are you kidding me on. Not sure how we got here. You're kind of makes your whole life and career flash before your eyes it's crazy. I mean when you hear when you hear him talk about himself and almost putting in perspective. I've obviously never done anything. Great like that or any word clues but I haven't so I can't even imagine knowing thing that you did that and then trying to talk about it while you're still playing that's the other interesting thing too about entering this. Where do you rank in the greatest of all time conversation injuring it while you're still playing the other question here to markets? How long do we think he got another two or three? Yeah right because Look Mickey Loomis has done a tremendous job surrounding drew brees where people that makes his job easier not to take anything away. From how great is when you talk about getting Michael Thomas. The acquisition of Jared Cook this year we talk about Alvin Kamara It is one of those is just one of those things where everything kind of works irks. Offensive Line is playing. Great Defense has shown a propensity to be really good at times but he steals surrounded in the locker room where really good players Cam Jordan on the other side of the ball as elite elite. So look for all. Intents and purposes drew is far from done right we. We potentially could be talking about six hundred touchdowns touchdowns we could be talking about more passing regulate creating a level of separation that you almost look at like. When when Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth Homerun record? Everybody was like Yo. That's never going to be broken. So it'll be it'll be somebody come along Willoughby Pat Mahomes. I don't know if he can keep that type of production production of possibly but when you look at what drew brees is doing with the potential implant two or three more years. The conversation is going to continue to happen. And what if he does win a super bowl this year and possibly get the two or three in the next two or three years because the team is built for success going forward. It'll be interesting to see you picked the saints as your Super Bowl winning team. You and here's the thing I mean. I still love that. Pick Look I. I don't don't know if we knew that the ravens were going to be this good. You didn't know Lamar Jazz is going to have this incredible breakout season. We sort of saw signs and it could happen but I like your. I like your saints pick. Are you still feeling like when you made it at the beginning of the season and now that you've seen everything are you still feeling that confident about and memory evens man. That's what happened is just so because it's so difficult now all of that changes when you get to a super bowl right right. We know you and I have been around championships every year since we started working together. We know what those moments can do. They can make a team. That's been great all all season long. look not average but just look good not like they did in the regular season and then to you gotta give credit to the team out of the NFC now see that's GonNa make it to the Super Bowl. But right now I like. I don't see anybody beating the ravens just right now but we still talking about drew. Brees we still talking about a super bowl with different elements Lamar Steel Young. Even though how grady is that stage is huge So there there are factors on both ends. That would play into you being able to make a hard case for either team if those were the two matchups but but with that being said like I mean I still feel good about Orleans real. Yeah I like your pick right as a as a whole it is. We're GONNA talk about cowboys here pretty soon with you. We're also GONNA talk on the show today about the browns and what your fix for the browns would be. That's coming up later on and if you are listening you can hear Marcus's sigh of despair. That's how swaggie feels about that. It's not good. We're also going to get into a a little more about the draft with this mock draft coming out from Todd mcshay today. Lots of interesting things on that. I want to quickly get your thought before we take our first break when it quickly get your thought on why you think he puts to a at number four going to Miami and how you think that that works. I think to uh-huh so interesting. We'll get your thoughts on borough later tours very interesting look. Here's the great part about now the way to NFL structured. You don't have to give a rookie fifty million dollars to sign them right right so there is a little bit more leniency on giving a contract to at four and if it doesn't work out it's not GonNa Break Your back financially. It's not that's the reality of it. The second part of is he's so damn good and playing the position vision that if you can get him to ninety percent you would think that he would be elite in the NFL. What he did coming out of Alabama who who? He played for matters as well he played under nick. Sabin who is going to stand on the table and say look. This guy will not be injury risk. We've surrounded under them. Were the greatest people. He's GonNa Bounce back. He'll be as good as he was before the injury. So it's very interesting to see him four now. What Miami is going bank on is what every team gene banks on is that he's GonNa turn into a generational quarterback well a guy that can carry a franchise for the next ten fifteen years? That gives you pause because of the injury outside. Added that the talent what you seen him do even with Dr Selling you hate his kids going to be fine. That's the easy part about making a decision. But when you're trying to project object with his injury history and bedding on him being a franchise carrier. That's when you get into gray area of okay so we pull the trigger on a gotTa Outta has deal with some injuries for that extended period of time. I still think best case scenario for two tons of Iowa is that he ends up with a franchise. It doesn't need him to control right away. Yeah maybe it's not exactly. Maybe the chargers one of these teams that has a guy there. That's looking for the next guy on May the Patriots techno each other. They're kind of cut from that same cloth but somewhere where you're not relying on him to come. I'm in because the next time that to a plays a game he'll be facing an NFL deep knows he'll be facing a defense. It's going to become an atom tomorrow. We're not talking about you know Charleston southern or something like that. We're talking about a very real defense. And so I think for two. That's the best case scenario for him. And for whatever team drafts him The the other thing too about his injuries that just. I don't know how else to put this other than that. They're fluky the the knee injury the ankles maybe not not as fluky but a little bit. You still got hit bad but this hip injury. This hip injury only occurs in car accidents. That's why you you know the fact that they were able to relocate it. You know in the stadium. There in Starkville made a huge difference for his recovery. And we'll talk more about just how doctors. I feel that this will go for him. Because I think that information's important. They feel very confident recovery. But it's not like it's like he has this reputation as being injury prone which makes sense but these aren't injuries that happen even football like this. Just be this and to your point ails. Is it a bear run for because our is it because of how he's playing the one thing I would say that scouts and general managers and people will look at with tour when he rose left he holds the ball too long. Think about all of these injuries. He's been dangles..

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"marino elway" Discussed on Pardon My Take

Pardon My Take

03:44 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on Pardon My Take

"P._F.. Ti Okay my the second one. I'm going to go with the heart thing. I'M GONNA go. Danny woodhead heart okay interesting strike that don't know that counts okay yeah. I was just gonNA switch to Grit but heart art Danny woodhead smart. He's got a big big heart. Yeah okay. He's the secretary of running backs. I will go with <hes> my second pick. I'll go with Tony. gwynn's is ability to not strike out. You don't decompose okay. We're where'd secretariats dead good point all right so I actually friend of the program Ryan spader a spader if you don't follow them he's got like the best stats ever so I just want to throw out a couple Tony gwynn stats because they're always fun to talk about <hes> <hes> Tony Gwynn would have to go for one thousand one hundred and eighty three to dip below three hundred all-time. That's insane okay early early P._M._T.. Member we did fake Tony Gwynn staff yeah. He's a believed <hes> if you don't go down a rabbit hole Tony Gwynn sats and again they suspended spader on twitter has the best it's unbelievable three hundred and twenty three plate appearances against Maddox Glavin smoltz Pedro he batted three seventy three with three strikeouts his he never struck out looking more than nine times in a season he had more more for hit games forty-five than multi strikeout games thirty four and his career batting average three thirty eight is better than eight of the last nine L. Batting Champs so that's just one season season that they had they won the title he had a better career and in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven he could have gone over fifty six in addition to his season and he still would have won the batting title and he was going to hit four hundred in the strike shortened season yeah he I mean if you I'm telling you go down. He never yeah he he is incredible. If you go down all the he had won three strikeout game and his entire career all-time sky to all time ask able but so his vision my that's my number two I'll go number three three. I'll go Kareem Skyhook lockable. It's shock the unblock shot. I mean if you if you specialized in that you can make I've listen. I it's like all I try now whenever I have a basketball my head I just take skyhooks because it's like this is the only thing I could probably still maybe do yeah and I can't. It's funny like unless you have Kareem abdul-jabbar exact body type right so unless you're dossier <hes> then you look like a Weirdo when you're doing the Skyhook yes even the kit at Michigan this year that was working on those really good at it right. He's still looked awkward as fuck because it's not Kareem unblockable <hes> all right <hes> so for my third pick I'm going to do you just did to to <hes> Tony Roma's is or ability me strike out and creams skyhook okay. I'M GONNA go with marshawn. Lynch is stiff arm. Okay Okay specifically the one from the beast quake on on Tracy Porter Yup Yup. I will go with PAT mahomes arm. ooh So you didn't WanNa go. Tom Brady like Marino elway jamarcus Russell. I'm just I'm just throwing this out there. I'm not shelling. I must think it's a wrong answer. Dan Marino's like a billion years old Odell Beckham so John Ninety sad that that's sad what you said only thing I know from the dam say Reno is the shot station had an offense talk about crazy stats. Look up Dan Marino's last game ever it. Maybe the worst quarterback performance of all time that game they lost like seventy two nothing gets the jags that in the playoffs be real shame modern medicine and shit mahomes probably has a stronger offer. No it's fair I I wrote down arms but I actually wrote down like three arms..

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"marino elway" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

02:18 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"If not more popular than ever, but it is a little bit softer than when you played particularly defensively. You know, what I do take it is and you can even talk to some of the quarterbacks. That that play when idea did. And you talk to Joe and taught the Marino Elway and stuff. I mean, we got a chance to those guys. And now, I mean, it's tough. You've got to get everybody. From the shoulders to the nays, and you're doing things that you it's too earlier nanoseconds just can't be done. I mean, it does not. Oblate defense sites since I was seven years old. Taught they hit them in the mouth, so you can get people in the mouth anymore. So it's it's a lot different. But I do believe it will help the game that helps the injuries for sure. And the quarterback is the most important component on the team. So you've got to protect that guy. Jim get a pick. You gotta pick in the game this week. Do he wanted the Rams win? I do want the Rams when I believe that Brady and coach Bela check just to top. I saw some of the things that they were doing last week. And I wanted Patrick Mahomes Kansas City to go in there. But I think New England's offensive line is playing great. Knots about I saw. And Donald but I saw soup particularly he's played the best two games of the whole season. The last two weeks if they gets up the middle and get Brady rattled have. The possibility, you know, you got the two best teams. And that's what we always look. I don't think it'll be a blow out by any stretch. Coach me pay down that the Rams is done tastic job. And you'll have everybody ready on that that offense for for the Rams. I don't know about girly. I mean, I guess coming mystery whether these banged up whether he's in the doghouse, but those two guys are beast running the ball back there too. So I'm looking for a good gate. Well, congratulations.

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"marino elway" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

02:20 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on First Things First

"What did you last week was spectacular twenty five in a row? It's hard to fall all the games because he's on the west so much, but it's it's easy because he's a quarterback to to kind of keep track of how he's doing kind of one of those old school NFL atmospheres. Throw the fact that in December two teams that are right there in the AFC right there and hunt, and you expect a heck of a game. I Chris can't I'll start with you charger. Steelers Philip rivers and big band game that we this is going can be one of these gritty like let's just I love a game. Like this. Do you think has got the edge and this one to go with the Pittsburgh Steelers because they're the home team? I think this will be a closely contested game. But I mean, I understand the environment that the chargers are going into the ravens in that division. I know about what's playing in Heinz field is like in in December on in January, the real home field advantages that we have in the league awesome, passionate and football fans in western Pennsylvania. And I'm telling you they show up for their Pittsburgh Steelers, especially this time of year with the kind of team that they have. So the Steelers have been on the road last couple of weeks they've been struggling they haven't looked like themselves down in Jacksonville Turner football over a whole lot down to Denver didn't. Much better to run defenses been leaky. So I'm looking at all of these different things and the Steelers Mike Tomlin probably taken the approach. You know what let's regroup. We're going back home. This is a get right game for us. So I look at this opportunity for them. But they've got to clean up all the mistakes that they've had their six in turnover margin in the last two weeks, that's not winning football. And that's also been Rothlisberger. Especially in the red zone like turnovers, are they all cost you? But when you take the opportunity that we can score points in the new kid that momentum to the defense or to the opposition. That's something that been Rosberg when you look at the mount of red zone interception. You look at the list that he's on. That's not a list been should be on. But getting back to as far as an old-fashioned matchup, Geno with you. And I we viewed a lot of football Kelly Marino Elway Marino. Like, this is one of those old style battles. Like this two guys that have played tremendous what ball for a long long time one of them having soup. Both success. The other one no Super Bowl success. You know? So both of them will alternately end up with a hall of fame jacket..

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"marino elway" Discussed on Boston Herald Radio

Boston Herald Radio

04:12 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on Boston Herald Radio

"Okay, I deserving. I think he gets in there. I think I'd take long. So you can put two defensive backs in Carr's ties, a cornerback and Ed Regis safety safety taking three Bailey's cornerback to you're right. I mean, it's like it's a toughie effort Marino Elway went into gather. But I mean, how the hell do you not put them in on their first year of eligibility? Maybe this is the veteran exercises of this list. We're saying okay Talla, you think of eventually we'll get so who better eventually those guys I named. Who is going to get into the hall of fame? That's just in this year. But all those guys they actually I think tight law this. Okay. Destroy hope get individually, I don't think so he doesn't get in. At all is a Bruce yesterday were gets in this. Get in. Yes. Or no. Never gets in. Now, I can't Andre region. So. Look they bring in a wide receiver every year. And maybe at some point he'll be the best wide receiver on the list. So he could get in. But I did you ever think maybe you did because you like them jet. I'd look at Hines ward is a hall of fame wide receiver. But you know, what it was a good big game player and he's a great blocker. But you putting wide receivers into the hall of fame 'cause they're great blocker wasn't just decorate blocker that he was a great great wide receiver. But that kind of made them even a better player. So I don't know. Career with a thousand receptions on the nose. Twelve thousand eight three yards eight five touchdowns. That's those are really good numbers. But he played a long time in a passing era. I don't know. I think look check out the numbers of Isaac Bruce, the better. Again, he played the dome for a big part of his career. Busey's a foregone conclusion, but aggravating for him to get him. But there's always some others last year was Terrell Owens between better. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But Terrell Owens had again last year Isaac Bruce one thousand twenty four receptions, fifteen hundred two hundred eight yards and ninety one touchdown. So his average per reception is like two three yards more than Hines ward. So you can stretch the field a little better went to four pro bowls. Yeah. Both both rows behind were two Super Bowls is a brisk one. Yeah. We're not punishing wide receivers for Super Bowl. But I'm just saying I mean Heinz words numbers are there. They're really good. Very good. I just think Bruce was better. So maybe maybe maybe half these guys get in. Eventually it also depends who retires when right like when does Brady retire because five years after that he's in when does Rodgers and Brees retire five years after that they're in a bunch of other for what it's worth Torry? Holt a nine hundred twenty receptions, thirteen hundred three hundred eighty two yards and seventy four. I mean, he was never the best receiver on his team is a Bruce xactly. So but again two Steelers wide receivers made it Lynch one John stallworth from the same look at that at that Rams team from hall of famers, assuming as Bruce is gonna get in Kurt Warner's in already Marshall FOX FOX in Orlando offensive lineman. Yeah. It's a lot of famous on one side of the ball. Offense was insane. And the defense was pretty darn good because they had Aeneas Williams. I would I would put Hines ward in eventually Darren Woodson. Watson was really good. But again, I don't think hall of Famer Steve atwater was probably as good as Darren Woodson. But again, you get what a lot of the hall of fame voters. I talked to say look at how many pro bowls they're in a voted into pro bowls. But oftentimes especially with lineman you make at once they just keep voting you're back in. But the other thing too is how did you finish as on the all decade team? Like, if you're the all decade on the all decade team as like one of the top three or four back. Then you're you're the best at your position are among the best at your position should be a decade and the players like Jerry Rice were like two decades. So that's why he's, you know, some people think the greatest football player ever, and you would not put James in. Oh, no. I just finished his career with. Proud thousand two hundred forty six rushing yards and eight touchdowns. Yeah. Well yard per carry. Yeah. And I think sometimes we're running backs. They just look at that and say, okay, put them in with the twelve thousand years, I don't know Jerome Bettis should have been in the hall of.

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:45 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"I think he should because I do think he'd be the number one overall pick. But I don't know if it's gonna happen. Now if you got the number one overall pick and he did come out and you really liked them, then it would make sense to trade car. It probably in a perfect world unless you get a one now wouldn't make sense for you to do anything with car until the offseason and just see where you land in the draft and what quarterbacks declare. So I'd say fifty fifty just because it's always with Gruden. You never know. But I don't know. I'm starting to think that just won't come out. Why can't Julio Jones score a damn touchdown. He is good. Ironically, didn't score again and I, I don't know I, it is pretty wild. He's an absolute Mosser. He's one of the best wide receivers I've ever seen. He's just not good. He says, go in the red zone, whether that Sark with us, Mattie ice rather, that's Julio. That's bad drops in the end zone. I dunno, it's weird. I can't. I can't even pretend to to explain it. It's really an all. I think honestly, it's an all time just like outlier a novel. Only because you watch Julio you go. This guy's incredible. There's no reason he shouldn't be scoring and he just doesn't score. Okay. Here's one blast. One of the night, this isn't a shot a Rogers. We all know he's incredible, but you need a comeback win to beat the awful Niners his top three, oh, line devante atoms, and other good offensive players. We all know how good he is, but I think we baby him a little bit and people put them in the go conversation. It blows my mind. What do you think? I liked this question Connor. I think he is baby a little bit at this point because he went from like always criminally underrated he's criminally underrated. Then he established himself as the lead player, and then he kinda gets excuses for him. I think he gets somewhat of the LeBron treatment for like the first five or six years of the bronze career. He was treated unfairly by the media. Then he got over the hype and everyone just acknowledges greatness. Now, it almost feels like you can't criticize them like LeBron didn't try on events LeBron not a good free throw shooter like Aaron kind of freelances at times. Aaron's not the easiest gotta coach, Aaron hasn't always got along with his teammates. Now we judge Aaron almost differently like there's no disputing. He's one of in my, I'm thirty four. I did not get to see Marino Elway beside like you to in my Prime Sports watching years. But from everyone I've ever talked to the way they talk about Marino and Elway kinda. Describe like Rogers just all time. You just knew it when you saw it was incredible. Like I didn't watch Montana, really live beside the cheese, but you you do Montana. Really what he hung his hat on was being cool, calm and collected was incredibly accurate, especially in big moments, but as physical attributes weren't great. He's actually kinda short, didn't have a great arm like Rogers, what's the knock-on? He is a little short. I mean, he's not doesn't have ideal quarterback height a lead arm, elite accuracy, elite pocket mobility. I mean, he's just he's elite and all these qualities. But for some reason when you're watching, especially the last couple years, I don't necessarily blame him for those. Years right after the Super Bowl when his defense was atrocious. But I think these last three or four years, it's almost like he started listening to like how good he was, and I think it was hard for Mike in the offense of staff to coach. He's not the easiest player to play with despite how gradient. So I do agree. He is baby the little and to me he he'd be right on the borderline of the top five, but I'm with you. I couldn't even begin to put him in the goat conversation..

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:04 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"We have the tickets. Germ breeze, took out paid Manning's, records tonight four yards. It was pretty cool halftime right before halftime. It was really cool. I mean, it was just a very, very cool sports moment anyone regardless of who you're fan of what I think agree with that and one of the great sports arguments in just one of just degrade arguments in American history. Now, football is not as hasn't been going as long as America's been around since seventeen seventy. Six, we know arm getting at is arguing over what quarterback has better. I would say over the last four or five years Brady is basically semantic like there is no argument anymore Brady, Montana. There's unless I'm a northern California. I grew up Niner fan, eight Argumenty more Brady one Montana to then I think the next like five or six guys. You know, let's just go, listen. I can't go back of like, you know the the auto grams and hell. Even the Roger Staubach of the world, like I can't. I don't feel comfortable commenting on them. So of the eight starting in the early eighties, you know, you'd have obviously you go Brady Montana. And then I think there'd be an argument to be made for Marino Elway manning Rogers, farve, and a guy that probably doesn't get talked about and I, I was a sucker for Steve Young, but those guys were better. That when you talk about these names of the last forty years and football, those seven eight names drew Brees is name. Rarely comes up, and I think if you went the last twenty twenty five years you'd go. Most people would take Brett farve though I'd say, drew Brees is a better player a more consistent player. Now, Brett farve higher end in his peak in the peak of his powers, what he won three MVP's. He was a better player drew Brees, but checkout drew Brees consistency. And here's the other thing. Would you race and listen? I am a Brett farve guy, but drew Brees just isn't putting up these hollow numbers in the fake NFL. He's been doing this for like ten plus years, four bills in games. I went back to two thousand eleven the the second round of the NFC divisional championship against the Niners at candlestick. They had the number two overall defense. Justin Smith. Alden was a rookie. Willis Bowman team was stack. They signed Carlos Rogers Derek, or I mean, Ahmad Brooks, they were the Ray McDonald. Their defensive front seven was unreal. They, they Don a hitter. They still had golsen. They would light you up debris through for over four hundred sixty yards against them and four touchdowns and obviously they lost. Remember Vernon Davis had a walk off touchdown. And really they had an Harbaugh had an unreal quarterback power play call, but drew Brees has been throwing up these video game like numbers back when you could back before we ever talked about CT back before, were you shook off concussion?.

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

03:31 min | 2 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Stinkin' Truth with Mark Schlereth

"You gotta let that go the the idea that the college systems aren't conducive to the NFL. Are we just seeing too many examples of the game is opening up more to the point where NFL is clearly taking its cue from college? Yeah, they're, they're, they're continuing to expand or put more of that into what they do as as a football team or as a as a kind of a football league. I, I think one of the things you have to understand though, Mike is that is that as I talked to Kyle Shanahan doing the game last year head coach of the San Francisco, forty nine. She said, the only thing you can truly evaluate out of that system watching on film is core Bax arm strength. So you have to do a much better job of making sure that guy understands, concepts understands, coverage understands because there's a lot of those systems or the coach goes, throw it here on this play, throw it here on this play, and it's a one read option and. So I mean, come on, we just went through the Paxton Lynch experiment here in Denver. I mean that guy couldn't play dead in western. He's he's terrible, and it really comes down to. He can't process the information. It's not the skillset. He can't process the information and he comes out of that system. So I think, yes, my Mike, you have to, I think I have to change my way of thinking about college systems or the college spread system. But at the same time, you better find a quarterback who really understands football who really gets it. And I think I think there's a balance there and you know you, you gotta, you gotta do your due diligence, man, and obviously that kids a football junkie, you know, he, he gets it. He's he's fun to watch. Man. He is fun to watch. It didn't take long. All four rookie quarterbacks are going to be starting this weekend. Baker darnold Allen now Rosen. You're going to be doing that game with the cardinals this week. So you're going to get Josh Rosen's, NFL debut. So do do you get the sense or it's early early early returns, but based on what you've seen in just the overall vibe, do you think this group is going to live up to the hype. You heard the high going into the draft that this might be the best quarterback class since the Eighty-three classic gave us Marino Elway Kelly, right? Champagne, Tony Easson Shimpei Donis tob black lab Blackledge kennel, Brian and O'Brien. Three of those guys are all famous right? Three art through and played well. Although kerosene Ken O'Brien on a pretty good career, Tony eastern only eastern Zuber ball beat forty, six, ten. I think that was a score. Your New England guy, right? Yeah. I think the score was not indicative of how well they played. It was not. It was much closer than it really was. I would say I would say, yeah. I mean. I think that I think all these guys have a chance to be really good, and I think is the league like you talked about continues to evolve to their strengths mean we see it all the time. Look at what Mahomes is doing. Mahomes is absolutely outrageous what he's been doing..

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"marino elway" Discussed on NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

03:25 min | 3 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

"You don't think anything existed before you listed and all that we also tend to lie in is the guys played by one of these aisles over through an incomplete pass. Like I really believe that's that's the phenomenon I once I became aware this many moons ago I dug up Super Bowl, thirteen one of the great games ever played. I don't know if I think there might. It might be. The most hall of famers ever out on the field at one time. I I'm not positive about that, but certainly would be in, you know, count on one hand any games that had more hall of famers in it. Not one. It's the mighty Steelers against the mighty Cowboys, both at the height of their powers, one thousand nine hundred seventy eight January seventy nine. And I remember watching early on in the game, they run a sweep with Tony Dorsett, Tony Dorsett in his second year in the league, big star, Roger Staubach hands. The ball off to them here comes TD around the end and Jack Lambert. And mean Joe Greene and Jack ham bearing down on him and TVs feet kind of go out from under him and he slips and it's a yard and a half. And mean Joe and Jack Lambert meet at the at TD laying on the ground than they touch him down. That's the end of the place. The most mundane play you could ever see except it's in the Super Bowl and and everybody all anywhere near the near the ball. We're hall of failed bus just chasing each other. That's exactly what it was. I, it's Elway. Deserves more praise. Forgetting three bum Broncos, rosters two goals. Then what happened once he got there, I agree more than. Yeah, exactly. Like you said his later in his career, I don't think he did as much as nasty as much drill Davis. I mean, not everything, but you made a helicopter run. He made some plays right helicopter is the most overrated. The second soup. I mean, there's no way was in that year. Then he was an old man falling down. That's pretty much what that is. I'm with you completely over rated play Super Bowl his saying that's that's where he's to me said that's universe Greer because you just him and you're like, it's pretty much everybody was like us. The greatest thing ever. Mike, John. I love John. John, John always rookie card. I love the guy, but now can I tell you something about that? I have watched Super Bowl thirty two with Terrell Davis, and he had never watched it before, which is what kind of human being. If you're the MVP of a Super Bowl, doesn't go back and watch it with your kids. Watch the game kids, seven times a day you. I keep it on repeats as a reminder everybody. Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's an interesting. Here, let me refer you to when I won the MVP and the Super Bowl. That's that's all I would ever do. But yeah, anyway. So go ahead now eighty three vino Kelly, man. I mean, so they they played. I was I don't think it's a ridiculous conversation anymore. It's not. It's not ridiculous. I still I still have to go with the with older guys. Okay. This because I know how hard it was through the football back then and they still may look pretty spaghetti eighty four. By the way his up Marino second years, the best quarterback season. I really saying it was crap ever seen anything like it, but it was the only one that I would compare it to in terms of just consistent quality throughout is Rogers. What was that? Twenty fourteen forget about what Peyton did for awhile. I unfortunately had to watch him do it, and they have sea south for several years, but he was, I mean, my goodness goes incredible. All right. I'm just saying I help on some tapes. Guy was up twenty one. Nothing before we even now easy stuff. Yes, spaghetti. I'm going Marino Elway..

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"marino elway" Discussed on NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

03:10 min | 3 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on NFL: The Dave Dameshek Football Program

"What do they have in common? No one believed in those guys. They outworked everybody to get to where they are. They were they. They are the one. The reason that that they are all time greats is because they outworked everybody else Cam Newton. The vibe is, is that he doesn't work, as you know is also now that we're in Los Angeles, this LeBron James, the same issue is LeBron Cam, I think for me, it's in the same boat because of public opinion. Because people don't feel like they've had to work as hard to get to where they are because they've always just been the best player at all levels. They're better than everybody else physically and I can. I can see why that why people feel that way because they are, they're just there's Cam Newton's. One of one like there's never been a quarterback muggy. I don't foresee one being around while we're able to watch football. He's just bigger than everybody's bigger than defensive lineman. He's got stronger on the most all the quarterbacks the I mean does he really does. The guy has an absolute rocket and you know, and when he wanted to MVP a couple of years ago down the field, throwing the football, he was as good as anybody I've ever seen in the season accuracy with Ted Ginn and some of the balls stoned Olsen I'm, it's tremendous. Now, the only problem is what Benjamin said. I mean, there's some truth to that. Otherwise he wouldn't say like, you wouldn't just say something like that unless there was some truth to it. So that's where the issue is going to be. People are going to say, well, he's so talented, but he just didn't. He didn't really put in as much effort and. That's why they didn't win. Right. So I mean, I mean a fair. I don't know. I get all of that, and that may be applies to Jay Cutler as you look back on his career Cam Newton or as one an MVP fifteen in rookie season, almost always in the play offs. Yes, attributed to Keithly Thomas Davis and a great defense. But you know, look at the pass catchers. Look at the ball care. I agree with you. I think it's also a lot of it's on this coaching staff. Honestly, I, if I'm, I mean, they. He does a lot in the run game, but they could be even better as far as what they, he has such great ability. He's he can be a running. He can be your best running back and he one of the best quarterbacks in the league. You gotta utilize that. I mean, if it shortens his grew by a couple of years, that's fine. At least we got ten years of fantastic Cam noon, better better all time. QB class, two thousand and four. Okay. I mean this, this sounds the I'm going to sound like a heretic. It's going to sound crazy. Actually. I already know what you're going with. All right. That's fine. You're well opinion. Again, you can chime in too because you're also an Eli. I'm not saying you're crazy. Okay. Here we go. Good. You know who they are, rothlisburger rivers ally, or I'm gonna say it. Elway Marino Kelly. Wow, you did. I said it. I thought that you might say it, but I wasn't really sure that you'd say Marino Elway Kelly, I'm not. I'm not just counting limit while I am going to count the Lombardi's here you have to in the twilight Elway's career which are road to Terrell Davis, not to John Elway. Yeah. How much do you think is like I love Eli, my good friend love the guy how much of it is that I grew up watching those other guys and I can't. I can't even say that you in those guys as much as the karma Jains as much as old school fans say recently by as you millennials, you don't get it..

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"marino elway" Discussed on Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

01:59 min | 3 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on Speak For Yourself with Cowherd & Whitlock

"Saying again i believe it matters i just think it's the weakest division easily and football listen there's the possibility the jets and the bills will start rookie quarterbacks and the dolphins have been chaotic for a decade they can i mean nick sabin can make a lot of mistakes he still wanting the sec look we're going to get into this at the end of the show but are you not watching what's going on in sports crazy things happen the vegas golden knights an expansion team are playing for the stanley cup you're telling me that something crazy couldn't happen with one of these afc's seems particularly if the patriots star leaking oil would it be more preposterous for the jets hit dolphins to somehow unseat the patriots or for the vegas for the to be talking about crazy things sports you know what's crazy tom brady at forty winning an mvp award still at the top of his game again three months to the season with three money this let's let's just say can my theory is yeah ballot check and tom brady are strained but you've been along long lock rooms tj quarterbacks marino elway they've struggled with coaches what if belichick and brady just don't see eye to eye they can still win and that's fine they don't have to get along to win because bella check of the defensive guys so brady doesn't interact with them as much as he would an offense of head coach but why are we talking about the patriots winning the division they aspire for things hired in it winning the division so what did the bills in dolphins and the jets are they got to compete with the steelers the ravens and all the better teams in afc they're looking beyond their division it's not about winning their division we consider that to be a foregone conclusion that the patriots are going to win the division you need to talk about the better teams when they played the steelers is this going to come back to bite them in the but that he's not there with his guy.

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Able to flip them and you'll turn a fourth round pick in the second hell if it goes perfectly maybe a i to me that's the move in the browns or entering i think one of the biggest draft for team in nfl history given how terrible they've been giving what a laughing stock they are and given how many picks they have and giving the opportunities there in front of them i mean listen i live on the west coast i couldn't be more excited to watch with the cleveland browns do in the nfl draft well you know i wasn't planning and at the beginning of this week to talk about tom brady and aaron rodgers but they've kind of come into the news and you know they're the two best quarterbacks in the nfl arguably tom's the best quarterback in nfl history it's weird because aaron is more talented than tom even though i think brady is the best quarterback ever for my generation the the older millennials to me rogers is the marino elway of my generation just the just the holy shit that is just a town i've never seen that before and i heard joe montana actually on good morning football last i think it was last week and they asked him a question what quarterback of his generation did he did he believe would just do the best in today's rule and heating hesitate marino and when you hear the old school guys talk about marino i know you never wanna super bowl but the reverence they talk about his ability and that's the way i feel with rogers like.

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"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"marino elway" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Able to flip them and you'll turn a fourth round pick in the second hell if it goes perfectly maybe a i to me that's the move in the browns or entering i think one of the biggest draft for team in nfl history given how terrible they've been giving what a laughing stock they are and given how many picks they have and giving the opportunities there in front of them i mean listen i live on the west coast i couldn't be more excited to watch with the cleveland browns do in the nfl draft well you know i wasn't planning and at the beginning of this week to talk about tom brady and aaron rodgers but they've kind of come into the news and you know they're the two best quarterbacks in the nfl arguably tom's the best quarterback in nfl history it's weird because aaron is more talented than tom even though i think brady is the best quarterback ever for my generation the the older millennials to me rogers is the marino elway of my generation just the just the holy shit that is just a town i've never seen that before and i heard joe montana actually on good morning football last i think it was last week and they asked him a question what quarterback of his generation did he did he believe would just do the best in today's rule and heating hesitate marino and when you hear the old school guys talk about marino i know you never wanna super bowl but the reverence they talk about his ability and that's the way i feel with rogers like.

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