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Maria Bartiromo

The Corp

29:34 min | 1 year ago

Maria Bartiromo

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something that nobody was doing and that was covering ready more fiercer formidable than Maria and what we're going to cover today is essentially a couple things which is how you got to where you are you have three top rated shows news covering businesses on the floor take us through from that moment today how did you get to where you are how did you come to be reporters in the today's female reporters are in the locker room and what you broke through and did on the New York Stock Exchange in terms of covering businesses the New York Stock Exchange having to cover the stock market in real time and it was incredibly exciting and I I on that person are and so that's how I approach interviewing it's was really important for me to be able to stretch myself and cover more topics than just the Stockman a story as it was actually happening and that was the first Gulf War and I remember as a production assistant I was in awe washing Bernard Shaw the other reporters under the bed we thank you well thank you for having me first of all it's a thrill to be with both of you I want you to know I started my career CNN I was a a project Folio Fox made me a great offer to leave I did and now I've been able to stretch myself and studied things that I never would have studied otherwise you just business because now today policy really matters to the markets and policy really matters to business back then you know it didn't I mean during the Israel Model I love it and I so Maria I want to start with you know I think of you as the female market when I was at CNBC for twenty years I covered the stock market balance-sheets corporates interviewing CEOS but after a while I felt like it was so I'm talking about you know tax policy immigration policy politics I really enjoy the focus on policy as opposed it's just preparation over prepare I think one of the best ways that I prepare to do interviews and to cover story is I speak with as many people as Baghdad saying oh bombs are going off so I learned firsthand had a cover story as it was happening which was really helpful five years later when I started at CNBC as a reporter on the fly without covering things on the fly on the ground and what I think so impressive is not only have you moved from CNN to CNBC to Fox business you've moved from really took an effort to break through to get these guys to become allies of mine and so I'm I'm really proud of that how do you think about you know you're talking to the floor at to do our show beginning a new program called squawk box and we wanted to be different so initially a lot of people did not want me there but you know would continue so I think it's really important when you're in a boom to say does this make sense you know is this really the way it should up just because they kept going up you pick any any city Phoenix for example I remember in two thousand and six I believe it was home prices were up forty percent over year why bringing really shapes you I was born and raised in Brooklyn and I think I did learn a certain street savvy so we're home prices up forty percent was the population growing was the housing market getting better no none of that just we saw prices going up and we thought that it it time is he describes himself and he's described himself on this podcast as having Mojo and being with article and I think about you as someone so when I'm interviewing somebody I'll speak with people who that person who liked the person don't like the person bull bear whatever it is try to understand what the most important issues view actually UC personalities not able to cross the transom from one network to another something worked in one place that didn't work in the next place in a small pond you gotta be fish in that big ocean and you can do it with Lincoln jobs you can pay what you want in the first fifty dollars on them just visit Lincoln Dot Com Slash Corp again that definitely is who I am so when I got down to the floor of the New York Stock Exchange and I started getting pushback from the guys on the floor I pushed back and I said you know what grow as professionals and discover new job opportunities that's how linked and can make sure your job post gets in front of people you want to hire people with the right hard and soft skills you're looking for and actually accomplished something that belief that Mo Jo as you call it that's part of taking forward you've got to believe in yourself because if you don't believe in and I was the coat check girl at that restaurant so I definitely started you know doing a lot working hard that is who I am definitely known as one of the this better than you do I'm coming back I'm not going anywhere and so I think you do need to have that confidence and that belief in yourself to believe but tell me a little bit about your Mojo like what drives you what makes you go like what's the Maria of it all I mean I think you are get clicks to the website and it's interesting when you look back at things like that we saw it again in the housing boom and then the housing bust where we were expecting housing prices to go up all these different things in real time yeah I think it's a great question actually because it really comes down with you the same thing regardless of what the industry is then I'll let you get enjoyable quiet I got off but one of the things Alex talks about that I love and that I think about all the nineties it was like Oh you know what stock should we buy based on the number of clicks to the website Sh- thrown out all fundamentals in terms of earnings and revenue growth and we were just the bay or if it if it doesn't make sense than if it looks good to be true it probably is and so we learned that over and over again in these different you for periods I think it's called I think when when people get questioned and then they don't actually answer the question audiences are really smart they're like he's lying to me he's not answering the question she's not strong literally built the restaurant he was a bricklayer in Italy they named it the wrecks the REX manner after the ship that he had taken back and forth to Italy it was called the rex a new who has those same two two things where you're incredibly disciplined in research but you have the grit and the Mojo to make things work I think so often you see in both interview you know who I really like a lot is Jamie diamond he's real he tells you how it is you know that he's probably not lying to you go to Nyu your New York all the way around with an Italian background what's fascinating to me is a little bit what Erica said you come from CNBC your rockstar there you go during the question when you're straightforward sometimes people don't like the answer but they know they're getting the raw deal they're getting the truth and I think people appreciate that they just want the truth Michael of Wealth The pinnacle of success and he never forgets where he came from he's always so real as well I saw him the other night and he's just on the weekends I guess my question to you 'cause I've watched them incredible interviews over the years because I'm a big fan of yours some of the great CEOS and I think Alex what you're doing on Fox and ESPN is extraordinary and unheard of nothing works accepted short-term it was all about what the stock market going to do in the next three seconds what are the earnings GonNa be in the next three months and I was looking to broaden out my own special component about him he was an incredible or tour and I remember watching him when he was either in the White House or at events he was less era you think about the Jordan's is always a great preparation right I mean I always say that a full with a plan to genius without one every time and hardest working people in the industry and I am a proud of that because my mother has always told me success comes through preparation and trick he drew you in no matter if you don't like his policies you like his policies you know that he was among the best speakers that you're gonna find but I think CEO's mind and so that's one thing I think that Jamie Dimon does I absolutely love Steve Schwartzman the chairman and CEO of blackstone because here's a guy who has gotten to the Berg who ran Aig and then star he's almost ninety years old he's going into work everyday he's eating salmon and trying to stay alive forever over prepare I love you remind me of great athletes when I think about the great athletes that I played with Edgar Martinez who's going into the hall of Fame Mariana Herself I assure you no one else will and you know I think that being in Brooklyn and growing up my father's restaurant my whole family was there all the time the wrecks manner my grandfather actually my grandfather came from Italy in nineteen Oh six first thing he did was go fight in World War One and he came back and he built a rest the important for you to cherish your reputation and know that it's fragile and it's fleeting and so you need to love what you do and and do the right thing they had trump just a few this past weekend but want to talk more on the Business Side C. E. O.'s maybe a few that you've really enjoyed in why and what makes them advice to people coming up in the world and I think this is true to some of the CEO's that I admire very much is number one they love what they do and you know you see a guy like Henry a lot on artificial intelligence so you know people like that really they turn me on I mean it's like okay this guy's real brock Obama had a very nope never stops because he loves it I think you know you always have to do the right thing I mean your reputation follows you wherever you go and so I think it's they could've made because I'm here and I didn't go anywhere you WanNa be yourself you have to portray who you really are because like we were talking about the Fox and I remember reading all it's not gonNa work at Fox and they're gonNA work at Fox while you're breaking records there now you're beating your opponent. CNBC would just fascinating not only in the weekdays but also earlier audiences see through it and when they think you're lying to them you're done they have they've stopped listening and so I think that that's one thing that CEOS and really and look I don't think there's anything wrong with saying you know what I don't have the answer to you right now I'm going to get back to you or you know what I can't really discuss that right now because it's under consideration and we're working through that I'm from business to culture to politics like what are the skills you think you need to have her that you have that have made you so adept at covering you you see a guy off camera and he's like how's Your Dad how's your mother house this House on all my goodness great and he's just charming and truthful and honest and all of a sudden I can't answer that you can say you know what I'm not I can't go there because I'm in the middle of something right now about that and we're not talking about that but here's what I will say about that you know it's important public companies what advice would you give if you do not want to lie to you Maria but yet you wanna be forthright what advice would you give those CEOS how to handle that and you don't have to be the smartest with someone that great but you know when I think about you your father own the restaurant your mother was a hostess and helped C. 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Customers being and and work hard I certainly have followed have a follow because this is really interesting and this has happened so many times in my career where I've seen this Erica's where I have to remember you have to be yourself be real because that is what resonates with Jimmy diamond not being completely upfront but some of these seals are running really personable he's a good man he gives so much money away he just gave three hundred and fifty million dollars to mit because he's just curious he was curious about Ai Mit tell a little bit about how you what's your method of how how do you get past the opaqueness and the smoke to get to a real story we we look at and like I said sometimes that rubs people the wrong way but I'd like to think at least that person knows that I'm telling you the truth I'm not going to sugar coat it this is this is such an important point because people forget sometimes that the best way to come across on camera is to be yourself over the years I've had so many right now but don't make something up and make believe that you have a different answer for something that is really not the truth I think the truth is really important and if you there's a lot at Barstool and I look at this a lot in the Internet whereby in the Internet if it's not real it's not gonNA work if you're packaging something nobody cares so how do you think of Amy Diamond or Alex like people trust you're GonNa ask the right question you're going to get to the right conclusion and I think I think you have a responsibility what I see this is how I see it developed and you know what when I have a staffer who may have made a mistake or I deal with it right away I'm like you know what I love at some point about seventy five percent of those men don't seek treatment that's why Roman makes getting prescription medication and care from a US

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Trump and the True Cost of Electing Biden with Maria Bartiromo and James Freeman

The Charlie Kirk Show

43:10 min | 3 months ago

Trump and the True Cost of Electing Biden with Maria Bartiromo and James Freeman

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I am working my way through it learning quite a lot and I think it actually puts this election in a proper context of exactly what is at stake? Maria I'll start with you. Can you tell us why you wrote this book and most importantly how this applies in the next seven days coming up to this very important election. Thank you so much trolley. I think we wrote this book because we both recognize that we were. Witnessing and participating in this extraordinary moment in time with an unconventional president and who has been really chalking up so many successes and victories one after the other and yet comes into this broader. Backdrop of the media refusing to acknowledge any of them and report on actual facts. So James and I started to look at what we felt was most important about president trump's approach and what we came up with was clearly economic policy was able to move the needle on growth and focus on jobs also. An. Incredible situation with the media and this resistance that was so extraordinary and then the broader challenges that this president faced including China and how we all watched for forty. How we expected, China should go one way and perhaps look at engagement with the United States as a positive. But in fact, what the opposite way and had bad behavior in terms of intellectual property theft moving into countries, and so president trump dealt with all of these issues whether it's foreign policy economic policy. So well, putting America first and he faced. A resistance from the media and from government within which was so harsh that we just decided that we wanted to document it. Swell put in its very applicable and interesting especially, what's happening in the new cycle right now James One. Thing that I don't think the president talks enough about is how we were able to survive the shutdowns because of the economic prosperity we enjoyed for the three years prior I would make the argument that if we had to shut down our economy right when Barack, Obama and his presidency, I don't know what America would look like Can you talk a little bit about how good the last three years were economically and who the biggest gainers were in the economy? Yeah. I think the table was really set for a thriving economy in the we start out in the boat talking about when. Donald Trump announced his run for the presidency in Twenty fifteen. He comes down the escalator at trump tower and their some fans there and a lot of reporters and he said I will be the greatest jobs president God ever created. And I'm sure there are a lot of media folks who thought this was kind of absurd ridiculous statement. About two and a half years later era officially, you can say that was true in the sense that we'd never had so many job openings in the United States as long as the government has been measuring we've never had this situation where you had more job openings than unemployed people and that. That trump movement toward American competitiveness continued to roll the tax cut bill in twenty seventeen making our businesses more competitive and cutting rates for individuals up down the income scale, you have a real campaign against government bureaucracy and red tape. So then you get to twenty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, and you have a situation where. Wages the bond twenty, five percent are rising faster the wages for top twenty, five percent. So basically, his income inequality thing that we were hearing so much about all of a sudden trump was the one solving. So maybe that's why Democrats are are talking about it a little less now, I'm not sure. You get to February twenty, twenty three and a half percent unemployment rate historically low and. Really in terms of workers who Mejia's it's hard to think of a stronger economy heading into this virus. That that's that's well put. You put in the in the book here, the political and media warfare has never ended just as the impeachment collapsed in the Senate earlier this year, the rule is beginning to realize how large a threat the Chinese Communist Party had become and what had been hiding in Wuhan a Maria you've been in journalism for quite some time and very well respected on both sides of the aisle especially a in the financial and business community I. AM perplexed stunned and confused with how the media has remained silent on the leading candidate for the presidency according to the national polls Joe Biden and his sons alleged connections, the Chinese Communist Party the very least you would think that they would write a little bit about or ask some questions is this a new form of Warfare Maria that they're just going to not cover any stories and have you ever seen anything like this in all of your years in journalism? I've never seen anything like this. This is such a dereliction of the media's jobs, and all people really want is an honest playbook and for people to play by the rules and what we've seen here is a simple pay to play corruption story. Where you know Hunter Biden was and this is based on emails that that we've seen that hundred Biden was basically selling himself to these companies because of the quote Unquote Biden lift These are the emails which Peter Schweitzer told us about that got which hunters partner has given him and to completely ignore this on the part of the media is exposing the media for their. You know they're taking side it's just it's it's it's sad I mean I. was actually struck just the other day watching sixty minutes and Leslie stall saying that she couldn't verify that Donald trump was spied on I mean in October of twenty twenty for you to say, you cannot verify this. You know. I. Can understand it if you didn't believe in sixteen and Seventeen and eighteen nineteen. But after Muller Investigation and the I G investigation and the Senate Intel investigation, it's it's sad to see what social media is doing as well is really. Just a sad situation in a sad state of affairs for the American people I I. Don't think that this will age well I. do think that social media will lose their liability protection because clearly in this dominant position, they have abused their power. And we have seen these multi trillion dollar companies use their incredible market advantage to now become a political advantage, which if a Republican company. To do anything close to that there would be widespread bipartisan donation if for whatever reason at and T. was a conservative company and they started dropping calls with between the Biden campaign staffers or they said, we're going to turn off the Internet for the Biden Campaign Field Offices in if they had any in Florida and Pennsylvania, you know people would be they would say it was be rightfully. Outraged about it or you could even go through any or say American Airlines comes out and they say we will not fly Biden staffers on our airlines. That's basically the equivalent of what Google and facebook is doing James I wanted to get your thoughts on the rising issue of tech tyranny and kind of how you you analyze the how this issue has evolved over the last couple of years. It really is amazing when you think about their blocking New York Post stories that have held up really well, they were big scoops. It wasn't just serving big tech giant. Setting itself up as the referee they're blogging true information that I think is important for people consider as they think about hiring this guy to be our president for the next four years. As far as the problem of Beta generally kind of abusing this. This legal safe harbor, which of course, was created to allow them to take down jihadi videos and criminal acts things like excessively violent material. It was never intended for this. I, don't think it was written this way either so I think this could be one of the many benefits of Amy Tony. Barrett on the Supreme Court is we have another along with Clarence Thomas, we now have a real is going to look at that law as written not as people would like it to be not as imagine the intent of the authors. Was But looking at the plain language and I think there's a case that goes to that might think you would find that the tech companies do not have a say farmer when they off the New York Post that has proven to be all true Maria. I visit college campuses. So other people do not have to I've spoken over one hundred fifty in the last five years and one of the talking points that is continuously richer. Towards our students and towards me is that the Republicans are the Party of Wall Street and I always rejected this as so what if they're the party of Wall Street but now that's not even the case Maria. Can you talk about how we have seen the financial kind of ruling class if you will or the most valuable companies in this election participate heavily on behalf of the Democrats Joe Biden you have seen the US Chamber of Commerce come out for mostly Democrat House. Candidates you are seeing most of the major banks such as Goldman Sachs Wells Fargo be very much aligned towards Democrat social causes. If Not Democrat candidates, this is kind of a new development Can you add some context that for some of our listeners and viewers I can tell you for sure many of the the leading Wall Street firms are all backing the Democrats and even in a handful of saw firms in two thousand and sixteen, I remember hearing from. Sources within the firm saying that it was encouraged by their CEO's to donate to Hillary's campaign. So you. They're globalists and they want to. Be Able to have access to China. Rollover for China the Democratic Party has also enable that I. Remember when I was covering Russia actually at CNBC and I had to travel to Russia a couple of times in Hillary Clinton was helping the Russian government create what was called the skull covault project. I don't know if you guys remember the scope project but that was the project in Russia that the Russian government and Putin wanted to create the next Silicon Valley. And you know President Clinton and Hillary Clinton were all in helping lots of big global technology companies share their research get their headquarters get the people and staffers over to Russia to do that then another quick story I was talking with someone during the two thousand sixteen election a major CEO of a major firm and he said to me what I like about Hillary Clinton is when you buy her she stays bought that's actually what he said she may. I just think that you know you're right for the longest time you own was always this perception that the Republicans were you know the Wall Street up party when in fact much of Wall Street and global corporations are actually backing Hillary Clinton I. Don't know why that became so. So prevalent but but it did I mean and I asked a question why academia and why you know. Hollywood, why are they show aligned with the Democrat Party? When in fact, they're not doing anything for their constituents. And the best explanation I have is that the most talented people that were on the center, right that loved the country have a constitutional capitalist pro-american slant went and built businesses and built families and those people that had a more left wing kind of deconstructionist's post. Slant they went and took over institutions, and you can see you have a bunch of conservative business people with big families that kind of have kids that have values that are unrecognizable, and then you have liberals that control almost every major institution in the country. So James, the name of the book is called the cost what exactly is the cost and what is how do you build that out in this book? That was a religious Maria was talking about earlier I. Think it was and they would. I think that was your idea to focus on stuff. You can measure because. So much of the coverage in the reaction Donald Trump is is has to do the motion or feelings you have when you read his twitter and I understand their comments makes a longtime snake people scratched their heads. But we felt that that was important. One to measure Ligi minutes. But also to look at the as she mentioned, the the collusion investigation which dominated so much of his presidency which not only could be measured but we found the more we reported on obviously Maria very early on this but the more the documents came out there was there was really nothing there at all and I think that that was one thing that was kind of stunning going through that. Document. Review and I don't know how Lesley Stahl still ignore. The Obama appointed factor general's report on the abuse of surveillance powers by the federal government, but the but the idea was to focus on on the costs. Costs and benefits. Economic benefits. Cost of not having Donald Trump is president He's. A popular target for a lot of folks in the media. Obviously a lot of people have thrive in this era attacking Donald Trump but. But let's look at the things we can measure the economics in that. Is really a story about him making the United States much more competitive and I think the a lot of that is. Bringing the corporate income tax, rate. Down to a level where we're no longer driving businesses out of the United States were actually attracting them. People want to build here. They want to invest here and when companies invest more, US. They buy tools those tools make workers more productive. Workers can then demand higher wages. Now, I, think most of the the academics would say this is a longer term project, but we've actually seen a lot of progress in the few years after the enactment of these trump enforce. Seeing the check engine light can give anyone anxiety, but that's why I have carshield and I don't worry about it. Anymore. CARSHIELD is amazing. They offer a wide range of protection plants that can save you thousands for a covered repair. 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Communist Party can you take our listeners and viewers through the story? I thought it was really attention grabbing its chapter five here boomtime in Beijing. Tells an important point. Well, we begin the chapter there with Jing. Ping Visiting one of the NBA Games and he was basically given the red carpet and you know Lebron James came down and shook his hand and then the mayor of Los Angeles came down and gave him a Jersey with his name on it and you know he was sort of the big deal in the stadium that day because the NBA had pretty much set up shop in China and they were incredible as you know. Basketball players, were you know a big news in America and the NBA was big news in China and the partnership was growing and growing and I think that was an important point to make because that was a moment in time where people believe that China was going to be the growth story of tomorrow and the NBA's here operating in China and rolling out the red carpet version pink and ignoring some of the real glaring. Situations that have occurred in Communist China, and as we take you through the next two chapters boomtime in Beijing in the next one is wide open or trying to tell a story of Yes for forty years we were the world was looking at China and thinking that each China would open up and be accessible for certainly the United States in the rest of the world and we had this assumption that when President Nixon I went to China that we would. Be Able to work side by side and have free trade and have real relations between the two countries and China would eventually see. Okay. Democracy is good and freedom works here, and maybe we'll move a little more to the middle. Unfortunately that is not what happened at all and it has in fact gone the opposite way whereas now China has become more ingrid than ever before and the Chinese. Communist. Party has become more aggressive than before so as you read through Chapter five and seeing Beijing and the Chinese business opportunities clearly, and that's the way global companies we're seeing it. You then read further through and understand that that's not how it played out and today you have continued theft of intellectual property spying on American citizens, moving into other countries and trying to militarize militarizing the South China Sea moving into Hong, Kong breaking its promises and so today you're seeing a very different story as American companies go into China whether it's the NBA or anybody else or all although the NBA has. Figured it out yet by the way, and that's a major issue that it's having right now. But you have to understand what's truly happening in China and the competitive threat that it is to America Donald. Trump, did understand that in fact, we open up the book in a story about when when Donald Trump, I had dinner with Jingping in mar-a-lago and they're talking about you know the the national security issues and the president is hosting him and they're eating chocolate cake in the president is this during one of my first As president and president trump walks me through the story where he's explaining Jingping while they're having chocolate cake that he just launched fifty nine missiles into Syria because they've used chemical weapons against their people and I think what we're trying to do is open up the the story you what's really taking place in China right now and you know the NBA has still not gone it and unfortunately I think it's lost a lot of fans and support as a result of. Each behavior in China. No I I agree. So one of other parts of the Chinese project if you will, which is some of their international ambitions is a different approach than what the Soviet Union did a James heard you right and comments on this before but I think our listeners and viewers would benefit from this. The Chinese Communist Party is not trying to necessarily be overly adversarial on the surface to the west and said, it seems like their initial. Goal is to infiltrate and addict the West to the Labor arbitrage, the flow of cheap goods and to the eventual rise of the Chinese Communist. Party. Can you contrast the Soviet Union's international ambitions with the Chinese Communist? Party and how they had completely different ways of going about it. Well I guess when when you set the Bara there the Chinese look better at a lot of ways certainly they're not. Sort of are invading ever countries and they a much more open economy and I think that's why. As Maria said this kind of lure of the Chinese market. was was so attractive to so many businesspeople. The West is really were the contrast to the Soviet Union, which seemed to be the the hard severe old school communism. Complete lack of economic freedom So what you had China was this is opening up of the economy to an extent and we have to acknowledge the benefit. So millions of people have been pulled out of poverty there but. We got. Misled and I think this is where Donald Trump deserves a great deal of credit for basically. Trashing the the establishment consensus. Said, they were they were opening up, they were moving toward democracy. That really was the justification for us, leading them into the WTO leading their companies into our capital markets. This idea that this was a story of reform and if we just had patients understanding. The, they might not be moving at our timetable a, but the long sweep of history was moving toward. Freedom and reform and opening up it. It's really been I. think an eye opener end although I think a lot of what you might call globalist. Would not acknowledge. Trump is pretty much. Persuaded them on some of them doing knowledge it. We talk the book about the Hank Paulson, who was sort of Mr Establishment financier Bush Treasury Sankar. Former, Cohen Goldman Sachs and. He said. The Chinese are not playing by the rules I talked about the theft of intellectual property forcing our companies in joint ventures At saying it, you know there's a perception and stopped something to blame Donald Trump for but there's a growing perception that this is a country that's largely been the rising America's expense and I I think to be clear you don't we will. It's fine to a thriving China but but we want limits moving liberty, the rule of law and and that is not a base. Of Thuggish, dictatorship mistreating and so people as well as our. Company's workers can't can I just add one didn't Charlie because I think here, you also have to connect the dots with this whole Joe Biden scandal that's going on right now because the fact is is China has been trying to acquire companies in America for years and then forcing this transfer of technology never words it's using theft as a strategy to grow and the president has been pushing back on that and when you look at what just took place in what we learned about C E F? C, as one company where hundred biding was selling access and influence and one thing that with a Peter. Schweitzer reported is that they were also showing the ability to get through Sylvia's so you're supposed to have all of this you know standards and approvals to get in the united. States. If a foreigner wants to require a US company, look what this look what this whole relationship potentially was allow wings that a Chinese company can just come in get the approval from stiffest because of who they knew it was a big guy and then acquire our innovation and technology, and in the end, beat us at our own game. I mean people need to understand the significance of of influence peddling which was what was going on. So do say a little more marine. I are fortunate in our jobs to be able to talk to a lot of people who run international businesses and it. It really has been striking the last few years where even people who on the record are very positive about business opportunity in the business environment in China off the record will often tell you stories about their companies getting robbed when they're when they're over. Sarah Trade. Secrets. Copyright Patent News Information Sarah Anna obviously some on the record we have in there the interview with a former. CEO See bomber was on. Marie show talking about how it's I. Think he said ten billion a year in lost profit for Microsoft just from the unauthorized use of software bikers software in China which is. Obviously. But was just one copy. He said ninety percent of the companies in China using the Microsoft operating system and only one percent of paying for it. We also have a great story around Motorola where we're a staffer at Motorola. was stopped the airport and she had she had hard drives and soft drives in you know tens of thousands of dollars of intellectual property that she was bringing back to China. So. What is then I mean we we know where Joe Biden stands on China which the continuation of the status quo and either Maria or James You guys can answer that the confusion that some people have them. What is the proper way to hold China accountable? Is it to sunset all trade is tariffs it sanctions 'cause that term hold accountable it's such a buzzword no one really knows what that means or buzz term I should say either of you guys can take what is that actually look like Well I mean I, you know I think that. So far the president has used sanctions and has used tariffs. I think it's it's it's difficult to envision a situation where we will completely decouple although in our interview with the president in. August he said look. I it's a hostile. country. I. Don't have to do anything if I don't want I could completely walkway I think that's unlikely. But I think what what this president has done is is the right way and has been effective and that is holding them to account in terms of you're going to continue to steal intellectual property will then we're banning hallway and now thirty countries have banned while Y. and Z.. T. E. WE'RE GONNA get get an alliance with our eyes across the world should make sure to communicate that we will not share information with you. If you do have alway- infrastructure, I don't know James Different if there are other options to hold China accountable, the president took us behind the curtain in terms of their negotiations and they joe and he told us that that when the last meeting when his team went to went to Beijing, they walked in the room and on it was a beautiful room and in what they had four boards or one board said, we're not GONNA do intellectual property theft we're not GONNA do opening up access to China and then the president really we're not going to. Do, opening? Up. China okay. You that that's such a big thing. We're not GONNA do it well, then walk away the point is is they will not admit to intellectual property theft. They still won't admit it even though there's a string of law suits and settlements that have occurred. So what else are you going to do to hold them accountable and still have a relationship and a partnership on trade I? Think the president is trying to explore those options with sanctions and Taras James What do you? Think step one was. Sort of persuading the political world that this was a problem defining the problem and I think he's done that again. Not that they would admit it. Does Certainly, Democrats would say you know trump is is got a good point on this. I think he's done that and as far as I think where you have a consensus now. With A. Chinese telecom company that wants to put equipment in the heart of the US Telecom Network The idea that that we should allow that when you have Chinese law requiring. That company to share information the wanted by the government i. think that's increasingly seen as kind of an obvious. Security, issue I think you have bipartisan support to say. That's not a good idea. 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If Joe Biden were to win the presidency whether it be the war on oil and natural gas whether it be the raising taxes I think we are on the verge of seeing inflation in our country if Joe Biden were to win what specifically do you think that would mean for all this incredible economic progress we've seen Maria will start with you. Well I think that just look at the policies that he has said that he is going to implement in. That is like you said taxes. That's GONNA take back growth that's GONNA. Go back which in terms of economic growth I, think one of the great things about this president has been his policy lowering taxes to be competitive with the rest of the world cutting out the middleman and all of the red tape in ensuring that deregulation is driver for business opening up the spigot on energy and, of course doing. Those new trade deals that we talked about Joe Biden has said that he wants to raise taxes by more than four trillion dollars and when you drill down what that looks like corporate rate going from twenty one percent up to twenty eight percent is certainly going to mean more expenses for companies meaning that they likely will invest less in rnd less in equipment the capital gains tax is really what what strikes me in what I've talked about a lot and that his right now, you've got capital gains, taxes and Taxes on dividends at twenty three, point, eight percent you want to take that up to forty three point, four percent people need to understand what that means. This is not about necessarily just owning your stock portfolio in getting hit with a forty four percent tax, which you will when you sell those stocks. But what about selling your home selling a home? You'RE GONNA have to pay forty four percent to the government just because you made money on selling your home, this is going to dissuade investing. That's what it's going to do. That's why do think we're going to see a sizable selloff should Joe Biden win because just the element of well I WANNA sell my stocks now before I get to next year because next year I'm going to be charged forty four percent versus twenty three percent that's one thing then you look at the spending side of the equation he wants to raise this four plus trillion dollars but it's not like it's going to do anything to the deficit because he's got such expensive spending plans the green deal alone hundred trillion dollars which is just so mind boggling. So it is going to mean even the committee on a responsible budget have said my McGinnis said even though president trump is cutting taxes and Joe Biden is raising taxes Joe Biden's actually going to have a higher impact on the deficit and the debt the than Donald Trump because of his spending plans so I don't think there's Any question that this is going to be low economic growth a drop in jobs and lower median income. Just, a when than Biden pitch obviously is is promising people. He's only a hit the wealthy. When you drive America toward electric cars and away from oil endured alternative energies and make it much more expensive to travel to make things to use any energy, our economy that hits everybody and also. Business. Taxes are paid by workers. This is the research that even the Obama Administration as we point out in the book in the in their economic report of the president. Realized is you burdens on business and the result is lower wages and it's been Joan. In our country in countries all around the world. For years in lots of studies done by Kevin acid before he went to work at the White House so so the the idea that you can crush. Employers and employees will be fine. Is kind of the fantasy in the heart of the Biden Economic Program. The other aspect of this you guys cover I think in chapter nine, which is, is it biden comics that is coming burning onyx I'm paraphrasing here from the best memory I have here either of you could take this in the couple of minutes we have remaining is Biden AMEX turning out to be burning comics chapter nine Maria. Do you WanNa talk about how Bernie Sanders agenda is really going to be running the government if Joe? Biden wins yeah I mean they came up with a unity task force in a unity tasks statement to talk about where the priorities were and that meant redoing energy redoing education redoing healthcare and I think you know as as We saw Joe Biden moves closer to Bernie. It became clear that what he was trying to do was addressed Bernie, rose and address the far left progressive and that's where he has been. He has been driven over the last year or even more in terms of his agenda being much more progressive than what people call him a moderate. He's really not a moderate and Kamla Harris is not a moderate either and so these are very expensive big government programs, socialistic programs. And I think it's GonNa be hard for him to not implement some of these promises in these agreements that he has with Bernie Sanders because what people are expecting is Elizabeth Warren to have a very important voice in the Cabinet Bernie Sanders to have a very important point. In fact, I understand that they're talking about if the Democrats take the Senate that Bernie Sanders will become the chairman of the budget committee whereas Lindsey Graham would get it if the Republicans are there. Bernie Sanders budget is GonNa look much different than Lindsey, Graham's. So we have to understand what that means in terms of the allocation of taxpayer money toward more things like climate change the environment renewables, big healthcare plans, James. What do you think? Do you think that right now he's there or he's just saying he's there and then he won't implemented. To implement it and journey say, no, you know arm-in-arm I'm singing to writing about There's there's a consensus among some investors that. That things are not going to be that bad economically because no president ever gets his full program, and so they look at the Biden program and they think, oh, he'll just get a portion of it but I think what's new here as you point out is Biden was of the relative moderate and he's now potentially a wins going to be dealing with a much more left wing, House and Senate if the Senators Democrat. So so it's not a question, his program being. Whittled down to end and moderated in probably gets bigger when it goes certainly. A Nancy Pelosi House in brats even in the Senate as well. But I just I'm sure it wasn't the only person when it when Bernie Sanders got rejected by Democratic voters last spring I breathed a sigh of relief thinking like, okay. We're not jumping off the cliff into socialism is going to be You know maybe maybe some imperfect. Choice here but but America's going to be fine. But I I have worried as I've seen this bizarre situation. Win. The nomination after Super Tuesday democratic. Country made it clear they did not want socialism biden his kept moving. Ernie and that you mentioned the unity task, force recommendations hundred and ten pages of ideas I. Growing Government just one of them. Talks about creating government Fred Bureau. Accredited agency I'd be people think this sounds wonderful. If they feel they're predators, it's been unfairly downgrade. If you. Think about the implications of the federal government is deciding who gets alone in America a this is a level of intervention and control I would think especially in our era pretty creepy and scary thought. That you know who knows what criteria the end up using to make that judgment i. think that's something you. You definitely do not want government heads. Up The the government controlling the allocation and credit I mean on an economic wide level it's it's so destructive and distorting but I think about a personal level I mean what? What is the this bureau evaluating where they decide as you the the consumer deserve alone or not? That's one area you. non-political judgment we're going to have to leave it there but this just think of the irs controlling who gets alone and who doesn't that's that's pretty horrifying. The book is the cost trump China American revival. I'm Roberta Romo James Freeman. Thank you guys for joining us today and love watching both on TV. 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"This is what's ahead and i steep for today's episode is brought to you by u s bank usa bank believes it hard work works and for everyone working toward a goal u s bank is here to help and if you would please rate review and subscribe to the show coming up my conversation with maria bartiromo hosted three popular fox news in business shows this week headlines were dominated by robert muller was he quietly recommending commending impeachment by what he said and didn't say house democrats want to move ahead with impeachment at least a growing number do but there's a bigger story out there that is not getting covered in with maria bartiromo we're gonna find out what the real deal is the real scandal that still remains largely uncovered but won't furlong because of people like maria bartiromo but first when i look at the week ahead here's what to look look out for in addition to all that impeachment talk trade uncertainty raines is never before china deal look like a certainty several weeks ago now people are no longer certain that a deal can be reached a comprehensive agreement can be reached in the next few weeks so much uncertainty hurts the stock market it hurts the bond market it hurts business investment which means it's going to be a damper on their economy to reports coming out next week one on manufacturing another on services these come from purchasing managers they're seen as good indicators of how they economy is doing in will do those two reports should be fairly positive they won't be reflecting the new uncertainties the new clouds that have come up in recent days maria and i spoke shortly before robert muller made a public statement it doesn't change the nature of our conversation or special guest today is maria bartiromo mornings with maria maria bartiromo wall street sunday morning futures mazing portfolio amazing number of hours of broadcast each week and amazing preparation you have to do interviews and each of these shows you just can't feed off the teleprompter so you're upbringing though i think really tell us a lot about you're ability to do all this work tell us about the toughest industry in the world the restaurant industry because what you did yesterday doesn't matter what you're doing now and for tomorrow it's true steve thank you so much for having me a first of all and a my upbringing certainly did shaped me and it made me the woman who i am today i totally agree with that it was a very much hardworking working ethic that i grew up with my dad owned the wrecks manner in brooklyn i was the coach at girl we would do weddings and bar mitzvahs and birthday parties and i would always check the coats and my mom worked there my sister stroke there my sister was a hostess my brother was a waiter we all work at the family restaurant and so i watched my father you know cooking in the kitchen with a vendetta on his head sweating i watched my mom worked two jobs it was always you know go to work 'em in that was the theme choo choo if you wanna do something in your life you needed to work hard for it and so my parents instilled that in me at a very young age and that's why i do work really hard and i i'm lucky because i love what i do and i think that if you could find something that you love what you do you will be able to work hard and then you'll maybe being the right spot at the right time and get some luck as well but in a nutshell my grandfather carmen bartiromo came to this country in nineteen oh six first thing he did was in a go to be army and fight with allies against the germans in world war two he did that he came back from fighting in a in world war two and then build a restaurant he used to come to america on on a on a ship called the wrecks from time to time and so he built the restaurant bricklayer in italy he that means used a construction worker but he he and his cousin literally brick by brick built a restaurant named the wrecks manner after that ship so so i'm very proud of that and that's how i grew up and that's who i grew up watching my grandfather my uncles my parents work incredibly hard that definitely shaped me on vacations family vacations holiday time spent at the restaurant can't we just see my dad we really had to be at the restaurant we did have a few vacations we used to go upstate to a a a couple of different a vacation spots villa by gary i remember 'em lovingly anyway anyway in villa roma that we go with my parents a four week in the summer but for the most part i was at the restaurant on doing vacations when my family was there and that's when we were there at holidays we were always working toast so a about you're first job well my first job was the coach a girl at the racks but then i had another job at kleinfeld department store you asking me about yeah my kleinfeld wedding dress a store job was really fun i was a stock girl i was just a teenager so i was the stock or which meant i would go into the bridal rooms and i would pick up the dresses after the bride's try them on and it would bring them back to the stock room remember these dresses are very heavy wedding dresses they've got tool and veils and all a lot lots of heavy material i used to before i brought the dresses back to the stock room i would secretly try them all on and i was always i was just a kid i was always dreaming of my own big wide wedding so when my boss caught me in a full get up of down the end the end the veil and the crowd and the whole nine yards when she called me for the third time she simply said maria go home don't come back go home and so she fired me on the spot i got fired from one of my first jobs stop girl at kleinfeld wedding dress shop i cried all the way home i couldn't believe i got fired i cried and cried and cried came home told my mom and my mom said well you learned a valuable lesson there and i said what it might it might tiers and she said do you job when you get a job you're there to do your job not try stefan now you know better for the next time and she was right i learned very early in my career to do my job you you learned early to there is no such thing as permanent success and one of the wraps on you as you're television careers you're always striving to get the next interview the big interview much like the restaurant yesterday's meal doesn't count you gotta prepare for today for tomorrow it's true and the news moves so fast it's been one of the most exciting moments in time i'm really feeling fortunate to be able to have this front row seat to cover all of the things that i'm covering i've got you new guests everyday important guests i cannot waste their time so i need to know my stuff i need to be informed about these subject because you can't fool these people in any way shape or form and make sure to ask the questions american people want ask in one answer melinda gates has a book out called the moment of lift and she recounted the story when she graduated from college one in a computer science she had a job interview at i b m and the woman recruiter said to her if you can get the job she'd mentioned she's looking at microsoft this new startup microsoft she said take it rather than work at i b m and she said you should take it because you have more opportunity at a start up then you will let in stylish company like this you had a similar experience in your career and tv you had an internship first at cnn before which was not the big three in terms of the networks walk us through that well when i was at n y you in order to get points it was a class that you could take it with an internship so i applied for an internship on i really want it to work at one of the big three nbc cbs or nbc but i was chosen to work at cnn 'em for this for this internship an so i reluctantly took it and in retrospect it was the best gift i could have been given because it wasn't a union shop and i was able to do everything so going in as a production assistant i was ripping scripts scripts i was a floor director i was whatever they wanted me to do i did and so then after the internship is over at the end of the summer 'em i didn't have a job so i ask and i please stay on and work in whatever division they would give me i happen to meet someone in the business division and the elevator who said come see me later i went i took some tests i had to take a writing test they hired me ashley start it on my birthday september eleventh nineteen eighty nine at cnn and i worked at cnn for almost five years as a writer producer i moved up the up the ladder this is a different cnn than it is today steve because this is ted turner cnn this was an entrepreneurial company we were doing things there that nobody had ever done before and that is cover of her new story as it's happening i was a production assistant in the fall of nineteen eighty nine when the first gulf war is going on and bombs going off and bernard shaw is under the bed in baghdad saying bombs are now going off and cnn was covering it as it was happening all the networks went to cnn exactly it was the thrill be on thrills because it was actually teaching me something that i had never seen before covering a story as it was happening and it served me well just a few years later when i went to the floor the new york stock exchange the stock market as it was actually moving so you a rose up to be an executive producer at a fairly young age and but you decided you want it to be in front of the cameras after hours you took the initiative to put together together in addition type tell us about that why you decided you want it to be in front rosen behind but i'll never forget the day that lou dobbs than my boss came to me and said look were changing the assignment desk and you're gonna be moving so at that point i wasn't assignment editor on the business desk so what i would do is i would come up with story ideas i would go out interview people and then somebody else would go on the air with my piece i would write the piece for terry keenan may she rest in peace jen hopkins beverly shock look they were wonderful women they were the true first pioneers in business news and i would write their script and i remember lou telling me murray you're never gonna get anywhere in this business if you're always behind the shadows slower moving you off of this assignment desk and up to eight p morning show so now many in e p executive producer of the morning show a business morning in business daily a two shows at that time so i have to be in at midnight and then i'm done by nine pm and even though it was a better position it was more money i knew i had actually found when i love doing and that was going into the field interviewing people very quickly i started putting together a nominal rolodex i knew who to call when the story broke i knew who to call when something i needed to know without an i was gonna lose all that because now my position would be i would be in the control room you know speaking to my anchor in her ear in his ear 'em in just putting a rundown together it wasn't going out in the field anymore so i said to lou okay luck thank friday a promotion but the truth is i really like going into the field would it be okay is after my shift is over i could still go down to wall street firms and interview economists wendy economic data comes out and so i went back i did some of the pieces that i wrote and i read them with me on camera andy only place i want it to work with cnbc because that was the only other network that really treated business news business information fairly and it wasn't just the dow and the nasdaq every everyday but they actually reported on business news and i got a job at cnbc went on the air and lou dobbs you're making a big mistake is that's it and look and i speak to you at one o'clock a i need you to speak to you today at eleven o'clock and he said okay so so i go into his office at eleven and he said i thought we said wanna come back at one i said okay but it's really just tell you that i'm leaving low i got a job at at cnbc and they wanna put me on camera and he said maria this is the biggest mistake you've ever gonna make in your career there nobody buddy you should not do this i could totally understand what he was saying because i was a key figure at cnn business news and we're all proud of what we were doing but i need you follow my gut and i did and it was actually one of the best moves i've ever made so how did you how did you become come first person man or woman to be alive reporter on the floor of the new york stock exchange how did that come about i had already been at the exchange as a producer so i had some familiarity with he exchanged i had some friends down there already did grasso knew me when i got the cnbc and i was a field reporter for the first year we decided we want to start a new program we're gonna call it squawk box and we wanna be different we want it to be on the floor of the exchange so i went to dick and i asked him along with some of my colleagues of the producer of the show and we said kim we actually take the camera down to the floor and he loved the idea he wanted to demystify what what's going on on the floor v exchange unfortunately a lot of others did not and i did have a few people who really did not want me there we leave the cliche about pioneers taking arrows is absolutely true and you're case and you've made mentioned in the past that going on the floor they exchange wasn't just the boys club with just astro physicist us drone on steroids if there is such a thing go through then first someone named mike robbing how you found mike robyn steve but yes mike robbins is one of those people who did not want me and what's important who is on the board of the exchange she just was among the guard wandering around the floor that's right he had a huge business it was a two dollar broker business they used to call it an run of his biggest accounts with g e so one day i was at the on the floor about two months and i heard that my boss's boss is coming down to the exchange jack welsh the chairman and ceo of ge then genie own cnbc and i thought wow this is such a great break for me my huge big bosses down to the floor of the exchange i'm gonna be able to be the one to explain what goes on at the jeep post he's gonna love this i'd already met the specialist a n g e who really took me under his wing an explain to me how the flow of the stock happened everyday who were the big buyers and where the flow was what he looks at and so i went over to him to ask him if he could tell jack welsh the same thing later on in the week if i brought jack over the post which he explain all of that so i went over to him and i and i went by the gi he posts and i saw that they were in a lot of people around there were like twenty people in earshot and he did not look busy so i said you know what i want you to know that tomorrow or later in the week jack welsh is coming well mike robbins was in that crowd and mike robbins was what's not standing too far away from where it was trying to have the conversation with a specialist the market maker and g e he stops everything yells at me what you're doing here run along this is not be a little tv show this is real business where conducting here you don't belong here along and you know i always say this when i tell this story you know the feeling you get when you're so shocked you've got you know knots in your stomach and you're on sure of what you do so i looked him i stopped and i said don't speak to me that way and basically i did run along i left but i came back and i kept coming back and yes i did bring jack welsh over to the post later in the week and he did get a full scope of what was going on but later that day i called the grasso and i said you know dick i don't know who this guy is but he walks around like he owns the place and he he's always yelling may making these harassing comments you gave us the ability to be down here why must i have to deal with this one guy who absolutely hates me i mean literally steve i would walk around the building not surpassed mike robbins because he would always make a mean comment to me so dick sesame murray i can you tell people not to talk with exactly exactly exactly so dick sets me then dick educated me dick's henry i understand what you're saying the problem is he's on the board and he doesn't want you down here you're right and so then when i realized she was on the board i realize well you know what he's basically ruining my crat on the floor because anybody who sees me whenever he sees me talking to anybody that guy gets his head ripped off later on so it was like destroying all my sources so i really just did not wanna see mike robbins and then you know fast forward to the dot dot com boom and then the dot com bust everybody was losing money the market was cratering he kept making comments made me this went on years and one day i had to he always had the same comments me what i would pass them on the floor he would be like this said you money like as if save you money you're not gonna be anything or make it anywhere she better just savior pennies so i'm rushing to my spot during a day that the market is crashing dot com boss is on an i could not go around the building i had to walk director had to walk right in front of him and sure enough on q says to me save you money i turned around him and i said no you save your money and i thought yes i just gotta at least i had an answer for him and so this went on this kept going on until finally mike robbins less the floor he and i thought oh i'm so happy i outlived mike robbins he's leaving the floor he's resigning i'm i'm good i don't have him on my back anymore life goes on then i go to a party with bob more matt at goldman sachs bob says to me come to a party that i'm having a goldman it's my biparti at daniel restaurant very nice place it was filled with the big hitters on wall street i walk in and i'm thinking oh this is great i'm gonna make lots of sources here sure enough corner of my eye who do i see coming at me mike robbins i say you know what i'm out of here i don't wanna be here when he yells at me in front of all these people in embarrasses me now in front of all the partners goldman sachs i start backpedaling my way i wanna leave the party immediately i get the tap on the shoulder maria it's mike robbins i said oh hello he said look i just want you to know i'm sorry for harassing you all those years i still haven't seen you little tv show but i do we do common business week you're doing a good job and i said wow thank you like and i shook his hand and that was that and it was happy to have a a truce and apiece between mike robbins and myself and and those another inch sheldon incident where you're on tv scholtz you hit it through that selden clark a all i could say is i wish him well selden clark was mad at my reporting on aj it was a very busy time time if he edgy post and i was always right there it was right near my position and i always knew everything that was going on in aj i'm reporting a negative story about aj i'm live on air they had these 'em handheld devices it's sort of looks like a little like and i pad but it's a lot thicker and the traders would walk around with these so that they could put their orders right into the machine well as i'm reporting on aj selden clark comes from behind and rams rams cams the metal you know trading things but they carry into my back so much show that action i had to react on am like oh my god i had to go medical later i had to take the next day off he got suspended selden clark got suspended it was rough and tumble down there for sure but i just want to stress that i actually made a lot of friends down on the floor of the new york stock exchange there's and incredible amounts of camaraderie down there when i got married i was talking to one of the traders and unbeknownst to me they were putting the ball in chains on my ankle so that i couldn't move that was what they did with their people who they loved so i think i eventually i had a lot of friends and an unguarded a lot of respect down there but it definitely was hard getting started well when you left the the gave you the klopp all they did they gave the club of and i cried i walked in i had to be on air like ten minutes i walked in on the floor they all stopped i mean all the traders right by may they all stopped and they just clapped and i was so touched by by that clap off i know i have that on video of me crying i couldn't believe that they did that they were real there's so many wonderful people in the floor of the new york stock exchange even till today i have some very good friends there for you were doing this you recognize the even though these people were doing big trades and g e r g in the like they were missing the big picture and you could get in vantage by recognizing what would shaping their world in a way that they didn't recognize walk us through that that is exactly right steve because what i found out very soon into my time at the new york stock exchange is that the traders didn't ever know the why all they really knew what is the what so in other words i could walk into the posted by b m and one of the traders could say they may hey i've got four million shares for sale i could walk into a post whatever abcd and they could say i've got two million shares to buy that told me that stock was gonna open up higher i b m gonna open up lower they always knew the flow they knew who is buying and who is selling and by how much they never knew why and that was you're i came in so at one point i realized i know more than these guys about what's going on and once i had that in my head and i realize that they actually had no idea what the big picture was they only knew the flow i knew that that flow information was real important i wanna know that flow information but i also needed to know the why and those resources away from wall street that i would get and that's where i came in people would ask me valuated right value add and whether you're a big achievements tell us about breaking open the morning call i am very proud of what we do but the morning call every morning i would get into work and and the first thing that i would do is i would call a couple of sources that i had on different trading desks and little by little i worked my way into getting every firms research call every morning basically as you know years ago research was very very very market moving in if you had an analyst they called deacs if you had the ax in the stock make a move on that stock you knew that stock was gonna move in other words and influential analysts so i would call different trading desk they would not release that information until after ten pm after the market is open but by that time the stock and already gotten away from you so for example if goldman sachs upgrades i b m that stock is gonna move that analyst is consider these accidents stock he knows best he's got the best relationship if he changes his rating on that stock it's going to move my goal was to get that research information at the same time the big institutional money players were getting it they were paying big money to get the research i wanna put the individual investor on the same playing field as institutional investor to get that morning research it took time but eventually i got it i would call every trading desk and i would say what do you guys pushing today what is your research telling you today and little by little i would say i would get goldman is upgrading gritting i dm merrill lynch is downgrading nbc jeffries is doing this you know credentials doing that in every morning i would break open that morning call and that was really great free besters because it democratized democratized information and it gave the individual investor the same information that the institutional player had paid big money for a lot of the firms didn't wanna give it up but i managed to get sources on every trading desk so that they could get their research call no overtime despite this great success you felt things were starting to get stale tell us what led you to that conclusion and then to the conclusion the politics and policy you had a master that if you're really going to be the reporter you want it to be well you're absolutely right stephen i and i think think that when i was at cnbc during the nineties it was incredible moments in time whereas we were embarking on a new era of technology changing the way relive of of the dot com boom and so people want information and they were trading on it immediately over time that changed and people became too short term focused and it was all about what is the company gonna make in the next three months what is the stock gonna do in the next three seconds and i started to get frankly board and i started to feel that it wasn't growing anymore does it really matter that accompanies gonna make a dollar fifty in the next three months i mean does it really matter that the stock is gonna move in the next week no most investors i recognize one at a long cer planned for their money ceos chew i was hearing increasing from ceos don't give me the whisper number i don't care i'm not gonna give you near term guidance i'm gonna tell you what my long term plan is for investors and how you could actually see see growth at this company so it began to dawn on me that most smart people that i was talking to did not want this trader mentality sports like mentality around the stock market it work in the nineties but it was no longer working well technology nology and affect meant you didn't need the watch cable anymore stuff quote the exact behavior hanno and you could see it the change on the floor of the new york stock exchange when i was there at its peak there were five thousand bodies on floor distributed around five different rooms today there's five hundred people at the stock exchange uments quite extraordinary all of the extra rooms have closed is just one main room right now molly's which just there for tv it does it because you can get all of that done electronically and so that's what happened and i think at one point i said to my boss at cnbc you know i think we need to go longer term i think we should do stories about long term growth and not be so focused on what's gonna happen overnight what's gonna happen in the next three seconds and frankly steve he disagreed with me he said no no no keep doing it this way we have to talk to the trading desk i said there's more to the world and the trading desk no no no we have to talk after the trading desk and so that's when i first realize that maybe i had had some ceilings at cnbc i'd been there twenty years nice round number you start thinking about things and i started to get interested in what was going on politically and i want don't you create a program that put politics on the same playing field as economics how do you bring politics and economics together and it happened to be that roger rails at the time i seen him and he made me a a great offer that it could not reviews with just that he wanted to have a sunday morning program on fox news that brought economics and politics together and i'm happy to say that sunday morning futures were born as a result of that conversation that i had with roger end it's the highest traded on cable all weekend on many weekends so i'm proud that it actually resonated i also wanna help build something that he was building and that was fox business network and i knew that cnbc could use some competition because i knew that all of the sources that i had spoken with in the prior year were telling me you guys are too short term oriented who cares about the whisper number were not in the nineties anymore so i had a hunch i followed my gut and i left cnbc tree achieve great success at fox including a moderating three debates of people forget that even one time republican audience booed you because of all in one ear questions showed you were doing your job right 'em but let's let's get to which is perhaps you're finest hour in journalism what happened in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen twenty seventeen what made you realize walk us through the election after the election when you grass the real story what's the story behind the story everyone thought was there the russian collusion walk us through that yeah steve i had been having every week 'em congressman on my sunday morning futures program who were leading congress who had seen the redacted material seen thee a confidential classified documents that the house of representatives were trying to get from the fbi's an increasingly indie early months of two thousand seventeen after the president fired jim komi i had had these congressmen the on every sunday so little by little throughout two thousand seventeen in the beginning of the year i hit on something that i just couldn't put and believe first i got a tip from someone and i started to follow it through and this person told me maria i want you to know that the f b i n d o j n a handful of individuals in in both of those places try to attempt a coup on this president's and it was as close as a coup as anyone had ever seen i couldn't believe what this person was telling me so i started following that story i would have people on like devin newness who is the chairman of the intel committee john ratcliffe who is a former prosecutor these two individuals had seen all the classified documents they knew what had happened and they were telling me as much as they could tell me you know without breaking any any rules rules in terms of classified information little by little what i pieced together was it there is a cabal of people at the top of the fbi's who want it to stop donald trump and did not want him to become president's and they went through incredible effort from wiretapping wiretapping informants a a media leaks strategy to stop him from becoming president and then after he was duly elected to take him down and the presidency it was extrordinary i went with this story over over and over again through the eyes of these congressmen of course i couldn't say definitively there is no collusion but i never believed that there is ever collusion i needed more sources tell me that and i needed we had a special counsel i don't wanna get ahead of the special counsel so robert muller report but i knew in my heart of hearts what had gone on because of these gas and i had had on sunday morning futures so i started to follow this with a real reporters knows and it was just an extraordinary story 'em george papadopoulos how they do informant sat him they actually got him to go work for affirmed that was a attached to be to be western intel lee f b i n the uk intel is well a this a center for international law pratt rosa honey trap of exactly exactly that to first they reached out to him on linked in after he was working at the ben carson campaign ben carson drops out january sixteen he doesn't have a job he gets in out reach them on linked in from the center for international law practice they say oh we love you where we wait a work here we see you don't have a job now he takes the job he goes working for them three months in march of sixteen he says you know what i'm gonna leave i'm quitting i'm gonna go work for the trump campaign they say well wait a second now who does this when you tell your employer quitting before you quit we really wanna send you the row because we really want you to meet some important people they're gonna be great you and your career so don't leave yet okay other room he goes to romi meets this guy named myth said mifsud is a spy in intel executive from italy who his name was written all over the robert muller report as a russian agent he actually was an agent of italy but that's a whole nother conversation he drops a bomb in george popadopoulos his lap one night at dinner and he says to him you know the russians have hillary clinton emails and they're gonna release them he's expecting papadopoulos to go back and tell trump he doesn't he just hell holes information then he's got more informants coming adam he's got down or from the uk he's got somebody from australia he's got somebody from d u s all calling george popadopoulos who basically is a nobody but who's about to work for the trump campaign and they're saying we love you work come to the uk to this conference come to london come here all with these you say honeypot they threw this woman as her turk on him who's a turkish woman but she was actually working along western intel were not sure if she worked with e f b i the cia but she was working for you us intelligence she was absolutely beautiful done up glamorous and he shares with her after a night of drinking and dinners that the russians have hillary clinton's emails he shares with a misfit told him and that's how they trapped him and so then oh there's something else he goes and he meets with another intel source who says to me you know you're consulting business has been so great we really value you work and we want you to work with us i have to pay you a free here's ten thousand dollars in cash and so papadopoulos says wait what okay so he accepts the cash that as the night goes on he realizes somebody i don't even know just gave me ten thousand dollars in cash this is not good why folks goes over lies just cyprus and he gives it to his lawyer he leaves the ten thousand dollars in greece with his lawyer he gets on a flight to go back to dallas to washington as soon as his flight landed in dallas guess what happens five f b i agents arrest tim looking for money it was told on so indorama of he didn't have the money then they questioned him all night and that that ten thousand by the way you're supposed to declare on the form if you owe more than ten thousand and then cash out of him up there is this up so but but but these are tools these rituals steve that are used at the highest of levels in our intel divisions in the usa covered these rituals informants and an end wiretapping these you chose used terrorist the kabbalah the people at the top of the f b i and the deal jay used most important most sophisticated tools on george popadopoulos and carter page why because they were members of the trump campaign so i i was finding out little bits and pieces of this story as it was developing over two thousand seventeen as more is coming out as these congressmen were demanding documents demanding an end with able were able to explain the story to me and i kept talking about it on the air and i got slammed on twitter i got slammed by colleagues people like maria stop don't talk about this and i kept saying to my friends and my colleagues unique just stop dancing around you need to stop tiptoeing around this this is the biggest scandal we've ever seen an you know they they should to spy on the trump campaign to take this guy down went to extraordinary lengths you will see the inspector general report out soon in in that i g report we're gonna see more about the media leaks strategy whereas these individuals and i'm talking about peter struck andrew mccabe jim komi lisa page what they would do is they would leak a story story to yahoo and then they would use that and then it was published and then once it was published they would use that as evidence to get a wiretap on carter page so it was just and then they misled the pfizer court which is exactly what william bar the attorney general's looking at right now you took flock you recall the coupe here's you mentioned back off of it a sort of would would would burn steam moment what kept you going it's very difficult because i had my own frustrations i have is very frustrated with the fact that i knew this was happening an end like i couldn't express it the way i want to because i didn't have the support of colleagues and they didn't have the support 'em to go with and i quickly realized at some of my own colleagues were not watching my sunday show because we were breaking the story every sunday and then it would come in on monday and it was like wait what how did that happen and it did happen because we had john ratcliffe on and devon nunez on who told us exactly what was in those you know classified documents what role the brennan clapper play in all of this well i believe that it was really the cia and and brennan who was siphoning information station into dsp i end apparently hillary clinton's very close friends and colleagues were siphoning information to john brennan at the cia i think the cia and clapper and brennan were very very much involved with all of this i wanna get ahead of william bar because he age is looking at all of this but as far as evidence proves and what we know so far it was really the cia siphoning information into t f b i n it was the handful of people at the f b i doing this because remember most cases when you got unimportant case it's done in the field offices it's not done at headquarters this investigation into russia meddling and trump colluding with russia was john at headquarters so there's only a few people who were dealing with a lot of agents were wondering why is this at headquarters and not in a field office i also remember i've spent time in russia when i was at cnbc i went to russia several times i interviewed medvedev i went through this a conference of the saint petersburg international economic summit that i would go every year i went for five years and every time i would go to russia i would always you're the same thing and from higher ups in the treasury department this is hank paulson treasury department who advised me don't bring you black thirty russia as soon as you go to russia they will have or you're in their open airspace they will have all of your contacts all of your emails so i remember time and time again going to russia with a different phone a different number a different email and then everything went through my assistant in new york and if there is anything important she would send it to me so i had that knowledge about russia as well russia has been meddling in the u s for a decade rescue come board do it the empire is not going to be passive on this they know what's coming he pointed a good guy to investigate this but do you think he could pull it off i think he can steve i think that this is an honest broker and i think that we know he's on it yeah and i came i came out of retirement to for the good of the country he's a real patriot look he he donald trump two weeks before he became aj they have no relationship he's not like you know some guy guy who's just protecting donald trump he saw what took place an i agree we have to trust the fbi's we have to trust that deal jay and you know someone must one sets me people do not go back into the water until they know the shark did so people are not gonna trust the f b i again until we actually see some accountability and you can have people who have these positions of power to take it upon themselves to change the situation this precedent la's duly elected he is the president's you may not like his personality you may not like some of his policies fine but he's the president's end you can't take it upon yourself just because you are delete investigator at the f b i to decide you're gonna stop it and all of those texts we saw between peter struck and lisa page set it all we need it insurance policy obama wants to know everything that's going on a the white house is dealing with this now a will stop him i mean all these tax were pretty clear on what these folks were doing so speculate why has the media been with few exceptions so passive on what is perhaps the biggest political scandal in american history and you know this is really what's saddens me because i think that over the last couple of years the media has or some in the media have decided that all of the things we deem important an incredibly valuable as free americans as patriots of this great country all of a sudden they no longer matter i'm talking about due process innocent until proven guilty ability dylan each and not be wiretapped for no reason for some reason my friends in the media have decided this is not important we saw that play out in the brett cavanaugh hearings the chaos there we saw that play out with george popadopoulos and carter page age and the media is not even talking about this story why because it's trump they hate him and they just don't wanna talk about it and so they'd rather throw out all of these things that we deem as important in our our democracy they'd rather throw that out then give him any credit and they have no sense of precedent is gonna be used against them someday that's right kind of message that's why those people who i've met who sets me like yourself yourself you know what good job on that i i know you're a patriot i know you know what i mean because for the last few years none of this for me was about donald trump this is not about donald trump this is about america you cannot use your position of power to put your finger on the scale a change in election no this is america this is a free country in a democracy this is how we do it we vote the reaction of the media you saw graphically with two interviews you had with donald trump you have an interview with trump you make news but the media slams you because you didn't insult among they'll go after him on this saturday other thing but you made news on several topics then you another interview you have to bring up john mccain interview ineffective shut down and you regret that you couldn't discuss other topics you wanna discuss so the first interview you get news blew the second interview where he didn't get what you wanna do certain topics oh this is great you didn't like you were attracted i answer it you're you're you're you're such an incredible observer because i don't think i've ever talked to you about this but you're absolutely right i i i'm sitting sitting there the that earlier interview we made so much news on iran on china the chocolate cake moment when he was telling a president's she that he was sending strikes to a syria 'em and then the sec and then the next interview i i asked him why he's you know criticizing john mccain i know i said some i know mr present you punch back but he can't punch anymore he's dead why do you keep bringing this up and he said that's fake news this is fake news and and so yeah they interviewed shutdown i didn't get a chance to ask about china which i really want it you wanna ask more about policy 'em and the media loved it they said oh he called her fake news you know so it's all about trashing the president if i don't look i call balls strikes when he had that helsinki conference i thought it was horrible i set it on the air when there are things that he says it i'm a questionable we call balls and strikes on my show but i'm not going to ignore policy and its impact i'm not going to ignore the things that he's done that actually had been very good like the economic policy end if i don't slam in everyday i must be in trump's pocket that's how they view it or good example on the policy side in december of twenty seventeen you wrote an op ed for the wall street journal you make the valid point deregulation tax is were fundamentally changing the course the uss economy you were slammed by your peers in the me how dare you do something like this how dare i write an op ed in the journal that says he economy is great because these policies i it's just extraordinary when you look at the number of regulations that we had in place under president obama and then you recognize the reason that businesses were sitting on cash for so many years and the reason that any acquisitions that were happening was american companies requiring companies in ireland so that they could go move their headquarters to ireland because we had such anticompetitive corporate tax rate i mean that's what that piece about the amount of regulations any amount of red tape tape was actually hurting the economy precedent trump comes in and reverses all of that and what a surprise we get three in three and a quarter percent and even four percent growth one quarter over the last couple of years you've speculated the not speculate but believe that the bars gonna see this thing through give us your observations on how you see other things playing out obviously twenty twenty trade deregulation continuing their mulvaney seems really determined to make sure that initiative is not lost i mean i think what's going on right now is you have a real effort on the part of the democrats to stop president trump should i take him down or make it real difficult for him to have any more wins you he he campaigned on a border wall they will not give him any money for the wall they're refusing it i think what it's setting up for twenty twenty is a real report card on what got done under the democrats you know what in fact did get done other than all of these investigations they wanna see his tax returns they want to investigate every corner of donald trump's life mistake in america we don't find are guy and then look for the crime that's not how america works in america we identify a crime and then we find out who committed that crime but he the democrats have their guy there they've got donald trump and they're just gonna keep investigating until they find something that he did wrong i think this is all gonna come come back to haunt people i think the american people have shown very clearly that they are smart they were informed and they want to see progress in our country end the fact that you know we're not seeing anything else getting done like healthcare like immigration you know like each nommik policy like trade were not getting anything done in terms of the democrats i think people are gonna remember this going into twenty twenty at this point joe biden seems to be the candidate but i don't know what will happen with joe biden i don't know there are reports that he has an issue with china on that he could have other issues but definitely if it was donald trump versus joe biden i think that the american people wanna see what got done under joe biden in what got done under donald trump it is about the economy i think reviews obviously changed you've seen it dramatically over your career a give us your observations vacations on that you were warned yes cable is changing substantially but the death of cables like mark twain it's been reported many times so give us your observations starting with the factoring you're show you're letting us using social media i am i'm i'm tweeting and posting things because i feel like we have so many fantastic guests every morning that sometimes they say things that i wanna make sure that my viewers hurt just think if they're not watching so i'll tweet out such and such just said this is so and so just said that 'em during the live show because i think my viewers increasingly are watching tv but also and social media they've got their phone in their hands when they've got the tv on look i think as you say the death of cable has been reported for years and years at this point we continue to see these advertising dollars in television i mean yes the growth is online for sure and i think you know as journalists it's ours to lose in terms of our leadership what i mean by that is content is once again king you know people want good content an i believe people will pay for good content so as long as i'm doing the job that i should be doing a good job making sure uncover the right stories making sure have smart interviews smart reporting i think that it doesn't matter where that content is distributed it's ours to lose in terms of our reputation so i think you really have to make sure that you're doing what people wanna see doing good reporting and then you have lots of options in terms of distribution i'm not worried women ceos you've made mention of this they don't seem to broken through there yet among large large companies to see that changing or do you see other things happening there being overlooked where women are really moving forward i think we're moving forward quite a bad i mean we've seen dramatic change just in the twenty five years that i've been watching certainly from the time that i was on the floor of the new york stock exchange you look at exchange today there's many more women and there's many more senior women in business but you're right when the ceo office is not penetrated enough you have to wonder why why don't we see more ceos that are female in corner office and all i could say is i think women have and this is a generalization i recognize that but women have a lot of balls in the air and oftentimes we leave the job for whatever reason to go other baby to come back to to go do something else and then come back and the hierarchy puts us at a lower spot there's also the board the board of directors is often filled with men men needs to needs to think more about how come we put women in there but at the same time i wanna make sure that i'm clear to me it's always been about performance to me it's not about women versus men but about the best person to get that job and i'd really like to see that continue i know that there are plenty of women who are better than men in their equal jobs but they're not getting the job for some reason i don't know why but i think that when you just look at performance performance who's gonna be hard to beat if you're woman doing well i don't know why i don't have a good answer for why we don't see more of female other than women like to do a lot of things and they they make a choice whether to stay in an end you know do a certain job or do a couple of jobs you're going you know go have a baby and do that job and then come back share with us how you stay so well informed it's prodigious this subject you have to recover i i read a lot you know i reid reid all the time on different things i'm obviously raiding the be obvious ones the journal forbes on the new york times the post every morning the financial times but i also talked to a lot of people i think probably the most important way that i prepare for interviews is talking with people so i'll call people who know the person don't know the person who worked at the person and nobody issues like him don't like him or her and so i try to get a full picture of who that person is interviewing up just speak to enough people as possible and that helps fill in the holes that may be there from just reading material out of you were rushed up you've mentioned the pash bicycling grocer doing yoga i love yoga yoga is so great i'm not doing that couple of times a week because it just they they all say too many people say to me you're you're only as young as you're spine you wanna have a long inflexible spine and that's what yoga does i bike a lot this weekend i must have by at least one hundred and twenty miles wow all weekend 'cause i'll do twenty eight miles a day 'em my house which just the where this perfect road is to bike it's it's fourteen miles each way so you twentyeight a day and 'em i love biking so that's definitely something that i'm i'm doing a lot of biking and yoga vacations you know most most of my vacations i've done a spas and hiking a cause i i like actual physical activity but this past 'em end of year i went to morocco i had such a great trip i but fantastic things at the suck it was really a great experience and education media got married cash first time i've ever been there for new year's eve we went so i did have a real vacation at the end of last year great and you're yankees fan always that makes you prefer very much shaky and now my reads the week two articles the first article is called no the rich don't get rich and expense of the board it's written on forbes dot com by contributor rainer siegelman makes the point economics properly done is not zerosum we all benefit when we all have a chance to move forward your gain is not at somebody else's expense we have keep reminding ourselves of that as we get her immersed in trade deals in trade war talk another article relates to all of this impeachment talk it's written by charles lipson and you confined this one at real clear politics dot com the title is heart rain's gonna fall on obama's bad cops and spies the pointy makes is and maria bartiromo refers to this is well a lot of things were done in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen seventeen by obama administration officials that are really scandalous you'll get a taste of it in this story thanks for listening to what's ahead i'm steve forbes looking forward to next week and if you could rate review and subscribe to the show 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Wall Street Breakfast May 15: Supply Chain Security

Wall Street Breakfast

06:45 min | 9 months ago

Wall Street Breakfast May 15: Supply Chain Security

"Welcome to health as Wall Street breakfast. Your daily source of Market News Analysis. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple. Podcast Google podcasts. Spotify stitcher morning days may fifteenth. I'm Dan Schwartzman and this is Wall Street breakfast in today's top story as the US tries to wrestle global supply chains back from China. Taiwan semiconductor a major supplier to apple and QUALCOMM. His confirmed plans to build a twelve billion dollar chip factory in Arizona. The plant which would create over sixteen hundred jobs will produce the most sophisticated five nanometer chips that can use in high end defense and communications devices. The trump administration is also in talks with Intel New Foundries. The company has major manufacturing operations in the US. It's applies only its own ships rather than making them for outside customers. President trump also spoke of supply. Chain saying these stupid supply chains. That are all over the world and one little piece of the world goes bad and the whole thing is messed up in an interview with Fox Business Network's Maria Bartiromo. We shouldn't have supply chains. Who have them? All in the United States he added citing effects of the krona virus. Pandemic Michael is produced everything. America needs for ourselves and then to export to the world. The White House is preparing an executive order. Which will require certain essential drugs be made in the? Us sources told CNBC's Kayla Taub adding that an announcement could come as soon as today. The order would direct H H s to study the supply chain analyze weaknesses and report back to the trump administration in ninety days but seventy two percent of farmer ingredient manufacturers supplying the US or located overseas including thirteen percent in China according to an October congressional testimony by Janet Woodcock Director of the FDA Center for drug evaluation in research a choppy market session ensued on Thursday following the release of weekly jobless claims. That saw another three million Americans. Filing for jobless benefits bringing the total number two more than thirty six million since the krona virus crisis began off three major. Us stock indices ended the session solidly higher. However and futures climbed another point three percent overnight. A White House spokeswoman said President Trump is to another possible bill but will not sign. The bill put forward by House of Representative Democrats on the counter for today's retail sales data for April show at twelve percent plunge last month marking the second biggest decline since the government started tracking the series in Nineteen Ninety Two shares of Abbott laboratories are off three percent pre-market as the FDA investigates preliminary data that found inconsistencies with the company's Rapid Corona Virus. Test the analysis of idea. Now which is used at the White House found that it missed it. At least a third of positive cases detected by a rival tests as much as forty eight percent when using the currently recommended dry nasal swabs. Abbott rejected the findings saying the researchers used the test in ways that it was not designed to be used. The New York Stock Exchange will open to a subset of four brokers on. May Twenty Six. Who will be required to wear masks and follow strict? Social distancing requirements also be encouraged to avoid public transportation and will be screened and have their temperature taken when they enter the building. Why open if the exchange was functioning remotely? Recent data demonstrate our trading four saves investors millions of dollars each day by making transactions more efficient said New York Stock Exchange President Stacey Cunningham facebook's Internet project to Africa is moving forward with the help of some global partners including China Mobile Orange Inch in Vodafone. The twenty three thousand miles underwater Internet cable circling the continent will link sixteen countries with Europe in the Arabian Peninsula. More than double. Its potential bandwidth. Construction is expected to be completed in twenty twenty three or early twenty twenty four in highlights increased interest from Silicon Valley companies in Africa while final negotiations with lenders could spill into the weekend. Jc Penney is planning to file for bankruptcy within the next twenty four hours CNBC reports. The retailer has been in discussions with his first lien lenders. For four hundred fifty million dollar loan to finance the bankruptcy would require the achievement of certain goals to receive the second half of it. Restructuring plans include closing one hundred eighty two two hundred out of the eight hundred forty-six JC Penney department stores. That were active as February. In other news you can read about on seeking Alpha apple is in the news for a virtual reality acquisition ahead of a potential glasses launch. In twenty twenty two Boeing creates a group to help get people to want to get back on planes. The Uber Grub hub deal could be a breeze with the Department of Justice Office depot plans tens of thousands of layoffs by twenty twenty. Three Nike sees a material impact from shutdowns. Even as it stores began to reopen higher volumes have fed applying package shipping limits usually reserved for the holiday season. The sixth confirmed death of an Amazon worker from Cova nineteen was announced yesterday and Sanofi backtracks on its Cova. Nineteen vaccine priority comments in earnings news applied materials up four point seven percent pre-market after missing on revenue and earnings but saying that underlying demand for their semi conductor equipment and services remains robust as of six twenty. Am today European. Markets are up a percent or more in crude. Oil is up three point six percent to twenty eight dollars and fifty five cents per barrel. That concludes today's Wall Street breakfast. Thanks for listening and have a great weekend. That concludes today's Wall Street breakfast. Thank you for listening for the best. Investment Analysis News on the WEB DOT COM. Subscribe to this podcast on Apple. Podcast Google podcasts. 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Fauci To America: 'Do What You're Told!'

Ron Paul Liberty Report

33:33 min | 2 months ago

Fauci To America: 'Do What You're Told!'

"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into liberty report with me today. His daniel mcadam our co host daniel. Good to see you happy monday. Dr paul how are you. Hi doing well. Lots of news. We don't have to worry about my children's because they announced the corona virus doesn't exist so we can all take a vacation but is still in the news. We haven't improved our point yet. There's people out of people out there trying to say that it's worse than ever. I mean they're thinking about locking down until next christmas not not next month. They went along down. Maybe maybe next year. What would it be neat if somebody just decided to have christmas anyway. What happens what happens. If trump puts up a big christmas tree and invites a million people to the white house lawn. i do anyway. it's last week. I said it's not over until it's over and it's not quite over yet but You know intolerant with people because of the way the news is being handled and because the news slightly slanted against trump. Some people say well it looks like looks like there's nothing going on but there's a few good people working on this program And you know on on finding out if there was fraud in my own mind you know without the proof. I need the court my head keeps telling me how could it not be involved with when you hear hear these stories and and and there is some verification when they showed just showing patterns how people voted and the the the the evidence at Some some votes changed in the middle of night. And there's so much here if you want to call it here say is but hearsay is evidence and We just need to see if they're going to get anybody under oath. But i wonder you say there's Trump doesn't pull it off but they proved there were million illegal votes but just not enough and it's too late to count them. I wonder whatever's any penalties for those people. I've never heard of that. You know that all of a sudden oh. We caught you manipulating the votes. There has to be somebody out there. Manipulating bows but for some reason. It's sort of like russia gate. People went to prison with russia gate. There was a few lies told there so but you know the number one thing is to get the truth out. You know for for various reasons. And i guess the penalty so have to come in various ways but anyway it's it's going on and there's still a lot of talk and they're still craziness about The virus you know what really going on with the virus And they're certainly a growing number of individuals I would say probably are in our camp thinking that there's been a lotta lies told and it's not nearly as dangerous and there's questions about just how deadly the virus is and of course. There's a lot of excitement about a vaccine so within the news and are a lot of talk so we will continue to try to sort it out and let people know what is going on and hopefully move things in a slightly different direction. The retort always is the response and the mainstream media is. There's no evidence of widespread cheating. We actually don't need widespread cheating. You need a little bit of cheating here because those margins are razor thin. And that's what they're talking about we don't know. I saw an extraordinary interview of the weekend. Sydney pal whose newly on the president's legal team she. She was with maria bartiromo and she was very very forceful and very very self confident. She said we have evidence that millions of votes were switched from trump to biden and bar to romo low shock. She said i mean. Can you back this up. She said i never say anything. I can't prove and she. She was the youngest. Us attorney i think in history very successful. She was she was able to get mike. Flynn to rescind his guilty plea and get back so if i would hate to be because that seems like a lot of pressure and a lot of stress. But if she's got the goods man that's going to be amazed well. She impresses me. Because usually we hear on television Both sides you know the more they wanna make the point if they talk louder and interrupt more people that you win the debate and as a sort of a bipartisan thing. But when i listened to her before. I listen to exactly what she was saying. I thought well you know she's. She seems to be a little timid. Her personality is an aggressive. She not yelling very much. What i was thinking about when she gives her answers her. Her answers are screaming out but she says in such a way that she comes across academician telling the truth which i think is a lot more powerful than trying to get your point across by just shouting over the opposition. Yeah absolutely a lot of confidence there. Well here's what we want to move into it. We started our main topic. We couldn't we couldn't help off track a little. Put up this main thing now. I just can't believe dr paul that most americans are not gonna be rubbed the right way. Let's put up. Is i think if we can tony you. Here's what he said over the weekend. I'm going to see what your reaction was the same as mine. Here's an interview late week. I was talking with my uk colleagues. Who are saying. The uk is similar to where we are now because each of our countries has that independent spirit. I understand that but now is the time to do what you're told but the question they don't want to ask the question. They don't wanna hear the answers. Who shall be the tower. What to what to do who told us what to do. Because that's essentially Diametrically opposed to the libertarian principle. We tell ourselves what to do as long as we don't hurt anybody. This means just out of the clear blue for your health sake no matter what we're going to lock you down even if you're not contagious you we have to just control it and you do what we tell you and Of course that's what authoritarianism is all about is sometimes It's incremental and people give up their liberties in small ways which i think our country is guilty until it becomes overwhelming and one thing that i argue is that once you can see a little bit of your liberty. The incremental approach is well accepted. Be you know if you took all if we if we go back to say. The amount of personal liberty isn't responsibility. We had one hundred years ago And then all of a sudden we had everything that we have now the taxing program and getting on an airplane and all this people would regale. That's why every once in a while when you see locked on getting out of control. The people finally are saying. Hey enough is enough is enough but too often. People has have accepted. This lockdown And and they traditionally. I think the greatest. Steve waugh is couching. All this weather support for war or with support for The good of all the people is the is the Is the patriotism. It's good for the it's good for the people is good for the country. You have to be patriotic. You have to obey and if you don't obey and do what she says you've turned into a monster and you know what they say. Things aren't changing and he's already said that he intends not to be moved from his position anytime soon. So there's no no hope for that. The question i would have is do as i do as you're told by who because even though who the w. h. o. Said lockdowns are a bad way to handle this virus. We've seen plenty of very contradictory information on the efficacy of of a masks including a really. Maybe we'll talk about this tomorrow but a very important. Us marine corps study on strict isolation versus no restrictions at all in the group with strict isolation. Actually got cove more than the ones who went. So there's plenty of different evidence. It seems basically science is what i tell you if agreed with my view that science. If it doesn't and you know. This is a new kind of fascism with call. Algae ism as my french him chatroom quote. But you know. They're talking about a four to six month lockdown in germany and that's the science. Well they already did a lockdown once and it didn't work so we're going to do it. That's the typical government. Talk to paul. You do something that it doesn't work. Well let's do it again. You know there is a group of people. Who do they say. And i call them the political authoritarians they get their for power and they live for power so there are sort of -tarian and they they might not even argue with themselves and say i know everything. I just want to tell other people what to do. So they put him in this catagor- where they they think. They know they wanna tell other people what what to do. And they get there by Maneuvering with power and intimidation taxation and crooked elections the whole thing. Of course you know the the enemy For some libertarians would be just pure democracy. The the whole idea of this compulsion to have pure democracy where fifty one percent can vote. They one against the other one nurse. What's happening there. But you don't have to have fifty one percent controlling the fifty one percent. All you need is a handful of people that are in the right places in our universities or in our uh then then grows on us because we do know that The worst system guess the bigger the lies they and every everybody lies now. This wants to stay in government. So is he is a disease is an infectious disease. That lying Is just pragmatism unnecessary. Matter of fact they even flip it around. The you're more patriotic today. If you're good liar you can get promoted by by being a good liar but that of course been around for a war well. Here's a do what you're told thing. boris johnson the uk. Prime minister he had covert back in march. I think it was remember. And he was pretty sick and he got over it but last week it came into contact with someone who tested positive. What did he do. he's already gotten already gotten over it. so he's immune to it. He put himself into quarantine because he had to follow his own stupid rules. That if you come into contact with someone you going to self quarantine so here. He is sitting over there in his apartment. Self quarantining but the thing is that makes no sense if getting it and getting over it doesn't and having your immune system get over it if that doesn't provide you immunity. The vaccine is completely useless. Because as you know. Dr paul all the vaccine does stimulate that kind of immune response if there is no immune response to stimulate then the whole thing that wasted mooney. He did not want to be seen as a hypocrite. He can look like he doesn't know what he's doing but he probably avoiding label hypocrisy but there's a few out there that are going to have a hard time avoiding the whole term of hypocrisy. Well you know. Senator paul got into some hot water over the weekend because he simply said. Hey if you've gotten kobe and gotten over it take your mask off your immune to it and of course. He went against the cova colt so they said rand. Paul just wants people to die will if you've had it and you got over it and you don't get immunity then. Don't stand in line waiting for a vaccine. 'cause ain't gonna help you matter of fact the vaccine and they don't really they're not even sure it's they're not positive all these numbers they come up with. I backseat is going to be forty percent affect. Oh this week. Another week went by now. We have one ninety five percent effective. And it's better than having the disease. Don't ever get infected. Keep the lockdown. But make sure you go in and check with bill gates is he has enough vaccine for your arm and one more on fouled should be forty move on because we had a basically a response to fao cheese. Do what you're told. And that's from. What our favorite one of our favorite doctors dr atlas. But look at this one more from foul you here on a roll over the weekend. Christmas is probably not gonna be possible. This year said doom and gloom f- ouchi so he's writing a high horse right now because of biden's apparent victory or whatever it was but let's move on because here is we could say this is a response to chief from atlas. Let's move to the next one. Here is one of the worst governors in history whitmer in michigan here. She is unveiling her looks like a monster. Unveiling her new demands of people. Let's look at the next one. Here's her new demands that she's put up she shutting restaurants. She's shutting sports. She shutting schools. She shutting bingo. No more bowling. Don't go to the theaters brand new set of demands. But here's what scott atlas. The president's corona virus adviser tweeted about widmer's caused a lot of controversy. He said the only way this stops is if people rise up you get what you accept and that was pretty fascinating. And he of course atlas once people to die. What a monster. Hitler he clarified saying i have never called for violence. I don't want violence. I'm talking about voting demonstrations but that is a response to just do what you're told. They're not operating in an irrational fashion when you know what they want they want more power on the sort of thing but in what they do is they. They turned her disgust or success of a politician into hate. And that's where that's where we are right now but they're falling a very long tradition in that is If the messengers giving you the bad news you had to kill the messenger. Oh you can't you can't come to the king and say that this is the truth. I'll know we'll we'll kill you. And then the problems go away. That's what they're doing here. They're not dealing. They won't even talk about the problem. They won't even way to things on on science and That's not the way science or something. I was told long time ago. in science. We're always taught that you know probably when you have a new discovery it will invite a lot more questions you know how to use. And what do you do. And what's the competition so it's not like you you you you discover something and has over. Its you know. New things can come of it but If you don't like what you're hearing you don't further investigate and have serious discussion. What you have to destroy the people you know who are saying just think of that would explain the viciousness of how they describe supporters of trump and. That's that's been pretty vicious. You know on on the ugly terms that they use and then they say they do this. What we need what we're really are all about. We're for unity getting along. And i'm sure you saw some of those pictures of tif over the weekend in washington. Dc beating up kids and old people who just happened to trump right okay. You don't like trump that's fine. They were beating amid me sick really discussed but let's talk more about hypocrisy because that's a great segue. Dr paul looks have unity. Here's some real hypocrisy. Let's look at this next. I will remind our viewers of the brilliant governor newsom thanksgiving guidelines no more than three households including your own. The host must collect all names and addresses of those attending. They must be held outside. You can go to the bathroom inside. If it's frequently sanitized you're allowed to gather in an open park but no concurrent gatherings with people you know in the same park dotted on all food. Must be in single serve. Disposable dishes must wear a mask at all times. You can only gather for two hours. Maximum singing is discouraged. But if you must sing you must wear a mask and sing below standard speaking voice. Here's that same. Old governor newsom The next couple of days ago Let's have a look at this picture. He got in a little bit of trouble because he held a huge birthday party at the super exclusive french laundry restaurant one of the most expensive restaurants in the san francisco bay area and that is saying something twelve different families that were not part of his household all got together a huge birthday party And then of course he was caught and he said well. I probably shouldn't have done it but there's not a great example. Yes and this is. This is an example of of of the thief. Go in and steal but the only problem is we caught. Yeah that's that's when they they're feel remorseful. Maybe i'll get a shorter you know but that's it getting caught the continent. Exactly what has happened here and but you wonder about their cues also because you know it seems like as bad as things are on his complacent as people are but i think they believe and two large degree. There's a bunch of people. They have them in their palm of their hand. Anything we say you know The the people will will go along with. It cancelled christmas. you know. Cancel thanksgiving but every once in a while. We see people turning out anyway. And that's what we have to encourage people and then they come down hard on us for Like but Why why should they be able to get away with. Destroy the messenger of liberty. You know if we're if we're promoting nonviolence and peaceful peaceful disobedience if there has to be an and and talking about freedom and peace in the they turn around and they say they described this in the most vicious terms and turn into a hate contest. That is that is why you they should be called to task. This is why they got called. And i guess pelosi newsom had to back off a little bit of big deal until they think they're not going to get caught again next week. They'll be doing something else. Well yeah there is a good one on pelosi. Your membership member pelosi. She had her own little trip to the hairdresser. When nobody else was allowed to go. It all turns out that. The gyms in san francisco or shutdown. She supported that. Shut down the government buildings. They had their jim. So the government workers got their gyms. We'll hear it turns out. Here's the next picture. She had to make a quick retreat because she was planning this queen of lockdown she was planning a lavish dinner on capitol hill for the democrats who were victorious in the recent election She had i. I'm bleeding tears for her because she had to turn it. Grab and go other than a sit down dinner. But here's probably that really the queen of all hypocrites. Look at this next one. The mayor chicago probably the worst politician. The worst leader the worst manager in the history of politics here. She is when When biden apparently won her state and apparently won the election with a little help from the friends. This is a great day for our city and our country are taking our democracy back. She's in a huge crowd of people celebrating the biden harris victory in here. She is a couple of days later. Let's have a look at this. She gets back from her big celebration and says she's issuing a stay at home advisory. Stay home unless for essential reasons. Stop having guests over including family members. Cancel traditional thanksgiving plans lori lightfoot out in the streets having a good time but when it comes to the rest of us having thanksgiving having a good time no way you can't help but wonder where are these people that actually go out and vote but i guess i guess you'd have to be believed that you're getting something i think everybody vote on certain if they're gonna vote they vote for something that's going to benefit them whether it's the person looking for the hand out of the military industrial complex contract or whether we're going to get a peaceful liberty back again you know something like that survey votes in their own interest but you you'd you'd wonder how they could look look at that administration in chicago and think that there's something worthwhile but you know the big thing is trump was onto it when he said when you burn down your cities you don't come to the federal government money and we rebuild them but you know i don't believe that will ever go through. I mean they'll be so much resistance. But that's that's what should be done. You know they should have to pay for everything and you say well. There's a lot of innocent people are going to suffer will clean up your act But but this whole thing we'll take care of itself because eventually you know the the purchasing power what the government sends them will dissipate and they won't be able to send somebody else's wells To them because people are going to resist it. And that's why this is all the big picture. The big picture is the steady erosion and destruction of the financial monetary system and yet today because the one viral one new vaccine is stock markets again. I'm up hundreds thousands of points in the last few years like it's gonna go forever. You know the things. They can't go on forever. Don't you know. And and i think we're there are so many things that are happening that way. Like how long can the deficit go. You know not forever. Yeah you segue into it again. This next clip. Which is the the shock announcement. This morning Amazing how just after the election you hear these announcements about vaccines coming. In trump celebrates modern ninety five percent effective covid nineteen vaccine reminds. The world had happened on my watch. Well two things about that. Not sure how thrilled his supporters are with this job. There's a lot of skepticism. And i think a lot of them are from trump's people but the other one is dr. Paul you wanted to talk about This rash of vaccines what it means. There's nobody knows the exact number but there's over a hundred new vaccine everybody's race in recent raising last week the stock market and everybody was euphoric Because is your came out in you know once again. Are they stupid or is this do they have. Are they good planners on how to give a boost knocking down given last week. Visor was rolling high. They're stalkers skyrocket high. And they find out that it's not all that good. There's a lot of a lot of side effects to it and therefore they They found also that you had to have deep freeze seventy degrees below zero to pass it around but amazing about modern technology. Just in a week. I think madonna has a virus oak. Guess what are our vaccine in a regular refrigerator and and so the problem problem is stalled so even though people were reassessing last week they're they're ecstatic again but they'll they'll run out of steam but it is this whole thing is especially if you get to the point and i wanna have a quote a little bit about from bill sardi that we might be dealing with something that is mystical It's it's hard to say nothing is there. But so far this absolute scientific proof of what they fine when either find a bacterium or virus and say this is this is what you see and this is how it works and this is what we have to do so far. They're not even close but they do know that there's a good investment and and working on viruses because it's taxpayers money. They're all going to get get stuff but the so. That wouldn't be that wouldn't be liberal. Democrats who are totally in charge. That's that's just that's just the system. Republicans and democrats alike How many people. I only remember one in the house who stood up against some. You know spending the money in the middle of night and raising the debt. That was thomas you know but everybody just goes along you. Can't you can't say boo. We need this. We need this and yet. They're not even sure of what they're dealing with. We know dr. Paul was not a math major. As you know. But i'm trying to figure out why we're celebrating vaccine. That's ninety five percent effective against the virus from which ninety nine percent of people survive. Why was that exciting. Wait there's more as they say on. Tv look at the next the next clip even with this wonderful vaccine felt she says you still have to do social distancing and you still have to wear your masks even after you get this amazingly wonderful ninety. Five percent vaccine gets a ninety nine percent survival rate. I want to sort of get to two again by talking about bill. Sardi lucite he. He's not an md by boy he. He is smart about the virus. Really journalist one. That really does the investigation. He's come to a lot of conclusions that we agree with But the headline on his article today I think it caught my attention. This is this is not the first time a vitamin deficiency was confused for a viral epidemic. So this this would be very important to anybody scientists. Everybody i think even who and cdc knows it's difficult to isolate and see this virus and say this is it and we know everything we need to know about their always putting them to put pieces together and and running tests that are aren't technically and scientifically proven to be the case so so anyway This was he. He pointed out A good example of It he was dealing with berry berry and they said it was always an infection. It turned out to be a be one deficiency But the quote. I want to mention here is Having to do with this testing stuff you know And he's quoting peter doshi who's an investigator who alerts us to the fact that i hope there's not too many numbers here. That only sixteen percent of flu cases are found to be influenza influenza positive. That's not very much. How many shots. We give a million or two a believable. You know and as i was reading this. I said well. I'm looking for where he did it. Is you pull this out of the air he goes on to write. Most flu appears to have nothing to do with influenza british medical journal volume three forty six and he identifies exactly where he got head got his scientific information so eighty four percent of subjects inoculated with the flu. The flu vaccine this is influenza are not are only being exposed to vaccine side effects and cannot be categorically benefit from vaccination the because. There's not that many people who actually have it. This fraud was reported. Seven years ago is been there has been in the literature and nobody pays any attention to it. He's a terrible. Fate could await human populations who will be forced to immunize now always sort of putting into the context of the the virus the code virus Vaccine if if if he's talking talking about numbers he says if just one tenth of one percent. That's not very many close to the number who died from from Corona vara if one one tenth of one percent of the world's seven point nine billion people experienced a serious side effects that result in hospitalization from from the backseat Then seven point nine million people will fill hospital beds. Globally the pro vaccine news media propaganda. Asian that will likely attributed these vaccine induced guess. What to the corona bar. You know. I've mentioned many times. The experience i had in seventy six when i voted against You know a rush Swine flu vaccine and the end of the story was nobody died from. Nobody died from the flu but many many people died and had serious illnesses from the vaccine. Least i if the vaccine does become available. Why not make it available voluntarily. People who are more vulnerable should have first dibs on if you're elderly if you have co morbidity is hey do you want it here you go. You can have it and not forcing it on. Why do they have to force it on. If they force you free lunch on you you know if so great you're not gonna have to force it on anyone but i'm gonna closed off to paula for ready and it's going to be a short closing. I wanna thank our super chat people. These are the people who make donations some smaller. Some larger as we're doing the show and those things help us keep going. And i want to just say something very specific about it because About a week ago we got. New wireless microphones We've been struggling. With these wired microphones you may have heard some scratching during the show. My microphone was shot. It was in terrible shape. Thanks to you. Thanks to participate we were able to get some decent wireless microphones. I hope the sound is better for you. But these are the real outcomes when you support the show and help us to keep going so thank you. Thank you We have two weeks because we had a glitch last week Turned all our votes to buy. No that was a different glitch. But we had a glitch last week and weren't able to thank you so we have a rolling graphics. Thank you this week for participating and helping us keep going very good and i'm going to close with bring up the subject once again about the hypocrisy of anything is so annoying and most people resent hypocrisy. And that's that's what's going on and we went into detail about this because they preach one thing they do something I also something otherwise. And they do do this with a straight face and it's it's not just an intellectual problem. It's a Evil problem they're doing this to see the people and what is their alterior motive. And i think that's the biggest thing that can be sorted. I and i think people should be given you know the the out on what their motivations are. But sometimes you just can't you can't refuse to look at what they're doing especially when the science is out on the platter when even even when we use evidence that they should question his guests where we get a lot of if cdc and o. w. h. o. They they put information. I guess there's some people in there that you know they don't know enough about politics to be in the big show with do as they do their work and they do some investigation and they have results and we get information that shows that You know they don't believe in all that they do they come back guys like out. She's just makes it up as they go along this whole idea that he was on total po size of every issue this spring when he was predicting millions of people. Dying from all this. And they're back at it again. Would what are the odds of him. Knowing that it's going to be crucial for the for civilization of the whole world that we can't have christmas next year i said sane and yet the people go along well. He's making us safe in making a secure. That's the problem. Governments can't make a safe and they can't make a secure governments can protect our liberties so we can make ourselves safe and secure and take care of ourselves. That is the real issue so but dependency is easy to come by because people like the idea that they're safe and secure well. I think it's a good idea because when you provide for yourself believe me you're gonna feel safer and more secure than you will be if you depend on the likes of the politicians in washington and just look at the crew that we have up there now and so much of what we suffer from spot partisan it emphasizes the fact that they are embedded with this idea that democracy pure democracy as long as the majority says. It is okay. Well where they come from. When did when was it determined that the majority can take away the liberty of other people the minorities who can't stand up to the majority. I'll tell you there's one group of people that knew and understood this and it's too bad that Not too many people look at this group of people anymore. And those were the founders. They detested the radical Dimond democratic approach that the majority rules and the dictatorship of the majority is a real thing. And we're suffering from that. The real problem is who's controlling the efforts of the so-called dictatorship the majority and that's the big problem just happens at The people who have the loudest microphone now are in the And our universities so that's where we have to be very careful and look at it but we also have to be very clear on what we understand what liberty is all about and where it comes from and it's a personal responsibility. That has to happen if we want to live in a peaceful world. Want to thank everybody for tuning in today to the liberty report. Please come back soon.

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Ep 100 | One Hundred Episodes of Madness | Guest: Sara Gonzales

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Ep 100 | One Hundred Episodes of Madness | Guest: Sara Gonzales

"As party time mob welcome to another episode jabr jeopardy show right here in the mother ship which is studio twenty two the puppet master bark is over there at the controls drive starship what how much this is the hundredth episode today yeah. This is the centennial episodes. I don't even know if that applies in that situation it one hundred as you all know. Let me give you a recap. This is the way it went down november. Two thousand seventeen the chat show was launched through a company out of beverly hills called podcast last one then dum dum dum after a year and a half of podcasting successfully the ambition and the desire and the call of god as clouds opened up in the skies parted in the fingers of the lord came down and touched my sir and we wound up mercury radio arts and members of blaze t._v. So here we are doing the chat brady show in studio twenty two. This is now the one hundred episode with mercury radio with the blaze t._v. In here we are thank you for listening. Thank you for watching our numbers of not growing the way they need to so. This is the last night by a- and seen our numbers have been consistent they have been but i know that everybody you know. We tried to put it on facebook. Some more people can watch watch and see it and that's an easy place a lot of people. Are you know you you watch every single one of them. You hear me tell you go over to youtube and watch it go to where podcasts are offered in subscribe subscribe and listened to it because those are the numbers that help us but you know you stay right here. You stay right here just so you can comment on the live feed and i know it's fun because the conversation and yes i'm guilty. I'm i'm sitting right here watching it with you on facebook but do that tell your friends about it and <hes> also of course go blaze t._v. Dot com slash humor use promo code chad and sign end up sitting next to me once again in the hot seat the lovely host of the news and why it matters sarah p._o._c. see the the person of color yes i did. I was shocked to hear that you allow in share p._o._c. Have you ever been in this chair there there. I'm honored to be here for the hundredth episode. We wouldn't consider having anyone else. Only you lonely. She is the p._o._c. Sarah gonzales doubted me being a person of color redneck. He's is not why i'm a texan american. You're texting and right now. There's no mexico in you texan american texan american so anyway stop wasted. Tom steve parkhouse. Steve improves you show or sitting over there in the peanut gallery. One hundred cares what color you are steve no one no one has ever doubted the color of your skin. No one is questioned has never been a topic of conversation. It's never been conflict or an argument about the color of your skin. However if you go to twitter you will have every boot-licking neophyte liberal out there that will tell sarah gonzales. She's not latina incredible football yeah. I'm not allowed to have an opinion well because i am to white but also i'm using other people's last names i love. I love your twitter. I loved getting on there and i feel like you are an instigator on my twitter and try try to be. I try to beat defensive defender. I i kind of feel like that. Big brother kind of mma girls getting attacked about a couple of the ladies that are connected with the blaze and i want to get on their own and be like i just have to. I know i do it. Don't hold that i love it when you do. Do i know you love the the crazy traffic becomes on there but i don't twitter's twitter's a dumpster fire. We we know that but i have found myself more and more so like here's my morning routine and i want to know yours. Okay comes to social media because we all check it right. We all right. I go to instagram. I am i because i can usually check that fast right. <hes> what's going on on this graham then i'll go over to twitter and i know that facebook is going to take the longest to deal with getting deal with notifications at comments so i usually say that for last because that's that's usually honestly and i hate to admit this. That's about an hour of my time. That's what i do yeah so so in the morning. That's the deal but i found myself more and more at night. After i've had a couple of apple juice party timah ma party time. I want to spend a lotta time on twitter. That's me too. I just get on their addictive. It it is it is very addictive of and that is me as well mornings reserved for instagram and also you can see overnight. How many people have it's very easy to see at the bottom. They have this. Many people liked your photo. Your posts this many people follow you and you get just like a very quick overview a summary of what your activities been but twitter and facebook is a lot harder like you said twitter is yeah. It's good for those late nights where you're sitting on the couch kind of half watching television show oh but also half being just perpetually annoyed at everyone who is stupid who is on the internet and everybody voice. Everybody's got something to say they really do. You must speech thing. I don't know i feel like we ought to bring it back now. Maybe there's in because i mean you got people out there that just but what books are the instigators the haters who just get on there just to out mount okay so i said something on twitter over over the weekend where where oh my god it was talking about people who are generating hate hate and stuff like that and somebody comes on the thing says will you instigate you instigate hate and i might tell me you pinhead what what what a differing opinion automatically instigates hate somebody that disagree with you that instigates hate come on. That's why we're in a dangerous place is right now. When beddoe aurore robert francis aurora goes on calls trump a unavowed racist a white supremacist and the leader of white supremacist so that's scary that's scary dude. I mean you're you you. That's the rhetoric that incites violence see this gun stuff. That's going on. Let me tell you what's happening. Let me tell you what's happening with the deal. I'm gonna break it down for mental health. Yes <hes> sure you gotta be crazy crazy to go in there and start shooting people right yeah. Did you see chris murphy's tweet that this is not. It's not about mental health. It's not about mental illness like oh yeah no because same people paul go and shoot up he he he went to the place where his sister was hanging out on purpose to shoot up in dayton ohio. Somebody normally hey. Hey where you going tonight. Are you going to that bar cool soon a few minutes yeah. That's not say that senior do that. Sanely right now paso gets in the car and i really got referring to miss kid like there's some kind of innocent thing now. They're they're premeditated murders the he gets into deal in plano texas dallas texas and drafts ten hours passo. You're crazy to do something like that. That's nuts to go down there and just target people because you want to make a statement about immigration. Did you also see that. The media left out in his manifesto that it wasn't just he wasn't it wasn't just racist. It wasn't an environmental crazy to you said that we could not sustain ourselves about sustainability about there was no way we could provide free healthcare no wonder about how he's an environmental nut gianluigi blaming alexandria cocktail cortez. No it was before it wasn't it. It wasn't trump wasn't inspired. His stuff like this happened before. Trump came into office so you can't just say trump is the reason why this guy went out to mass shooting. We started way before trump even he even he said you know look i. There was a temptation and i'm a break it down for you. Don't forget and we'll get. We'll get back to the point. I'm a breakdown for you. I'm gonna tell you what's gonna fix this. Okay <hes>. You heard me rant about it yesterday. I'm gonna take some. I'm completely new on today's episode. I didn't blame obama when cops were being shot because of his anti anti police rhetoric that was that was going on out there i didn't i didn't blame him for that. Ah wished he would have shut up because i felt like he was creating racial division and he it was creating a bad name for for at least a bad image for law enforcement with with the rhetoric but i didn't i didn't blame him and so does trump say things that are crazy or weird or wild or whatever jennings just come in here just cast a big shadow camera <music> anyway so look at high tights and i got those ears lowered anyway the now you wanna come in here and just because president trump says things that are off-the-wall sometimes and a little thin skinned and he he punches back. I mean you're really gonna start blaming all of society like every conservative. You're going to say well. They're all all terrorists. They're domestic terrorists because they support the leader of white supremacy in donald trump. I mean donald trump don king lovin in our sharpen hanging with wrapped about everybody be ruffy he free to rapper. He sat rocky aggie. The look the lavar ball whatever the ball kid that was in china and the other two boys got those free. How about the criminal justice le the criminal justice reform body. It's free to multiple and we'll do more wants to do more like man. Bring me anymore stuff to sign. If he's the leader of white supremacy man he is doing terrible said low unemployment. I mean my gosh among african americans and minorities. I mean it's terrible guys. Come out over and over again saying look. We want legal immigrants. We need legal immigrants. There's a lot of people a lot of things in here that we could benefit from them being here here but now what they wanna say oh he's got a muslim band and an immigration ban. No you're lying. You are nope. That's gonna be eleven mark part. I get sarah. I'm just glad it was you the almond not me because i really lying. You're lying. That's what because because you're gonna take it out of context. Go back to back to charlottesville charlotte charlottesville. He comes out. I was in florida as in. I was in somewhere florida lakeland and no no i was somewhere myers. I was closed hilarious. Guy was the name of that miami anyway. I was in florida north of naples else north naples and i'm sitting there watching this press conference that the president gave that well there were there were fine people on both sides what what did really do they pull that out. It's like oh. He said white supremacist refine people you gotta listen to everything he said in the context stop lying. Stop lying. Stop lying. Stop lying so what's the problem is the one percenters controlling the one percent is the one percenters controlling the one percent. It is these people out here trying to define the the narrative. They're putting money behind it. They're funding the stuff with the mass media the twenty four seven news cycle there running this stuff through and appeals to the one percent fringe of the assholes assholes on both sides and they're coming out of the woodworks going. You know what we're gonna do what they're asking us to do is to one percent controlling the one percent. Oh you got to shut it down. Shut it down as long as that. Rhetoric is being spilled out there on social media mainstream media. You're going to have these retarded people that are gonna come out. There and they're going to want to shoot people. I'm trying to avoid social media for the late in the next couple of weeks. Could that goes down shooting when the newtown shooting happened. I got off of facebook for a month. I took like i'm. I'm not gonna sit here and talk about kids getting shot you need them. Because i mean the the amount of comments i've seen in the past couple of days of spoon whatever they want to spew and think it's accurate because they feel order order just so adamant about it is bs and it said you had to see this concert is watching. People's feeds is common common kind of like these false arguments about the topic about guns when it was like why you need a a._r. Fifteen what does it matter to you. Somebody has fifteen what is it. What is it doing for you like. I know a lot of people have guns. That aren't going out there killing people but if you do the moment you say something that i support guns. You're labeled in your attacked facebook right. Now i do think too. It is <hes> <hes> it's a bizarre time where just everyone feels emboldened to just go on social media and spout opinions regardless of whether or not they actually know what they're talking talking about just like you're saying with this false narrative that they're painting trump to be whites. Premises will better goes on television and says that trump is a white supremacist therefore here four all of the c._n._n. M._s._n._b._c. anchors report it as if this is already a solid fact that we have that trump is a white supremacist so we're going to take it and run with it and then people listen into that and go on social media and tell me that because you know i don't support taking everyone's guns or because i support enforcing the laws of immigration that <music>. I'm following a white supremacist. None of this makes sense but we've got all of these people who don't know jack. I'm gonna let you stick to the the the she did. She wanted who don't know jack who are going and aren't they always the ones who are like the most sure of themselves. They're always the ones who are most sure that what they're saying is correct cracked the always the ones who have no clue what they're doing if beethoven say stuff like that he wouldn't be he wouldn't make it in the news cycle so that's zero percent. He's got something thank it's so. He's got to get in the new cycle so he did it. There's also makes sense for him to come out and say it but it's still rhetoric that he's just saying throw it out. Yeah because people are like yes but you notice okay so i was listening to sunday morning. I was listening to maria bartiromo on fox. I listen to all the news. Check them allow <hes> and you'd be surprised. I listened to the progress progress station on x._m. As much as i do the patriots you shouldn't have had to to like you felt the need to justify. You're gonna throw the oh well. You're listening to phone. News shut up. Every single. New station has some sort of yeah. Of course they do a biased liason. Here's the deal. Here's the deal stupid. See karl stupid because this applies to you like a bit dog always barks so you know if you can't figure out what that means steve's over trying to count owners fingers a bit dog always bars. You got a few dogs. Wanna got bit. One is the one that got bit. Okay so this applies to you and it stung a little when. I said hey stupid. You're stupid so here's the thing here's here's the thing we've lost all ability to use critical thinking anymore. We don't know how to critically think that was. That's why i can read the a._p. I can read a news report but i can listen to n._p._r. Can listen to private. I can listen through and i can. I can critically think about what these people are saying. I know what's opinion see. Journalistic objectivity is like this if i can listen to a news report or read an article and at the end of it. I know the writer's opinion on the subject. That's that's not journalism opinion. Yes ab- journalistic objectivity just tells you the story. This is what happened. These are the details. This was who was involved who when we're how so that's journalism. I can see through that crap because i know how to think critically. Those are gone though aren't they. You gotta know where to go. Look look listen to these new cycles on on whatever bias network it is. I mean <hes> our friend bowling and he says look i get up in the morning. I watch m._s._n._b._c. <hes> mhm. He says you know i i. I i listen to c._n._n. You know by and large you can get some good news out of c._n._n. Unless you're reading the big headlines because they're going to continue pushing that the top but back to my point maria bartiromo has representative tim ryan he's running for president. He's a democrat from ohio. They've got they've got him. They got him on the show and yes he's got his accusations against trump. He had his demands for certain aspects of what should should be done in terms of gun control. He did put some blame on trump but it's interesting. The news isn't flooded with tim ryan. It's flooded with beddoe aurora because of of what because again ohio they're treating ohio completely different than they're treating el paso something that happened within fourteen hours of each other swing state well. I'm not even hearing about ohio hearing about it interestingly enough. That guy was connected. He was a warrant supporter bernie so avowed socialist. I believe in all that crazy junk what a coincidence that we don't hear about all of his political ideologies and his motives behind what he did. I mean did you blame bernie sanders when the gosh shot steve scalise and the rest of the baseball team absolutely need in washington d._c. So so get. I'm not blaming obama for cops die. I'm not blaming trump because moron drove ten hours to shoot mexicans and i'm not you know i'm not blaming elizabeth warren because some pinhead ohio went out and shot try to shoot up a nightclub. Just this is not how this works. You don't blame a huge swath of society for the actions of one criminal and that you don't don't do that then that's what people are doing right now on social media. It's crazy yeah personal accountability. Well <hes> you know and again back to the point of i it's dangerous. The position that the mainstream media has right now because they're all that you hear c._n._n. Wall to wall coverage about this racist guy hi and just like we said before it wasn't just the racism if you're going to report on the manifesto which i'm not sure that i love i mean i appreciate journalism. I'm not sure that we should be elevating these these killers. I'm not sure that we should be elevating their manifestos but if you're going to report on it report the whole damn thing don't just tell us about all of his racist rhetoric rick and then completely leave out. You know it's like it's in this teeny tiny little footnote in small font that no one can read oh by the way he was also an environmental nutjob but we're not. I'm going to tell you that part of it. So now we've got all of these people who are saying well he was racist and xenophobic and he was a white supremacist and we must be a trump supporter when that's not really lee the point that we should all be focusing on. I mean we should be focusing on the fact that we probably should have a conversation about why people are so sick in this country and why there's so much hate oh maybe because watching c._n._n. And hearing all of these people talk about how divided we are and how we have a president who's an avowed white supremacist. None of it's true ivanka trump get on twitter and is going to condemn it. <hes> were you knew to condemn your father. He's it gets old. Nothing they say will be got got enough. They told him and i tweeted about this. The left on saturday said donald trump better. Come out and condemn white supremacy or else. He is obviously the racist well. He did that today and now they're answer is we'll yet but he didn't mean it wasn't good enough. You east moving those hanging out steve's house. It's like it's like being around stephen tony having a fight. I'm sorry baby. You don't mean that they've been fighting for twenty years. We'll get it works. You guys somehow make it work pretty awesome just falling into this trap that you know oh. I love what our friend jesse kelly says. We talked about this before the show he said quit apologizing for white supremacy. You're not if you're not white supremacist. I'm not a white supremacist funny because when when it kept saying how come she's not. She doesn't condemn terrorism like she came out in the report she's like why do i have to say that i i that i think that the terrorists to come out in public these terrorists. We know they're terrorists so then. Why is it the same thing. Why is it reverse when he was like why doesn't trump come out and say blah blah blah why wadad come out like this. It's like you said it's a playground tie where it's like oh he doesn't say so. He's a white supremacist but lemme is like oh. I'd have to admit that terrorism is real in the muslim religion so what's what's. What's the difference then you know what i mean. It's it's oh that's a double standard coffee. You're coughing. Irish sure dr pepper. You're drinking coffee. The now tell let's look can do is the one hundred ever. We even even steven meeting your mom. We gotta get her into her last night. We're at the point in our relationship correction. Meet your mom. I feel more shops. Got some over there yeah so the <hes> if you wanna send me some jameson whiskey. I like the black barrel the if if you want to sponsor me james i'll be back in ireland in november. We can come talk about now. I my mother by the way is probably mad like i like. I talked to yesterday and she'll always tell me she's like that that episode you did with with chad rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish rubbish and i'm like robichon mom yeah that on this love that episode within each so sweet oh and that chris norton and his wife i just love them to their great and i'm like what about what we're just sitting around and having a good time i right i don't. I can't share those. I can't because i'm afraid your kids might look at them and watch them and i'm like mom. My kids are on social media. They can see yeah. They're all they're not going to your page to see their father saying that's my mom's logical. If i share it they might go to my mom public. They're adults by the way my me and my two daughters in universities. I'm like you know they. They could drink alcohol. They're not watching dad. They're not watching every now and then they might tune in but they're never bored to death when you just talked about your mom watching episodes. You didn't say that. She said she really enjoyed the episode's sarah gonzales. You never said that no issues not but i'm just kidding. She has said that you nadler earlier. They're so pretty thanks mom. They're so pretty smart relate to sharp sharp and i'm like natalie for natalie racer natalie but natalie sure she's got. She needs to come here. Mom needs to come. She told her mom when you wanna come. She said you're the one with a busy schedule agile as well. That's true but i'll make time for your mom as it 'cause 'cause the last time she came out last summer and love mom. Mom mom has the patients of maybe three or four days visit ego into five days. She's ready to get somewhere else. That's awesome and then she starts trying to. That's great now. She goes who just hangs around for well. This go back into mom mode like you need to be doing. This and i'm like easy tiger. My mom is like that too so my love my mom. She's a trip though she <hes> so last year at a show in portland oregon of all places and a jumped on the plane flew all away across the country to augusta. Georgia picked her up and i was gonna fire back first class so get on the plane. We had to go to charlotte from charlotte d._f._w. The problem with the plane apparently storms is what it was in charlotte so we got up in the air. We had the land and like greenville south carolina or some nowhere nowhere airport and so we missed our flight so then we get finally got his charlotte. We had to wait there for another four hours now. Here's my the mother who needs the wheelchair. She doesn't need it but i i get the wheelchair for because you know she. I just you might as well save her strength and she's got arthritis and stuff if she still gets around pretty good so get finally it was a process right to get her out here and so i'm like mom i will fly get you. She said well. I can get myself. I fly there might come come get you. I'll fly back with. I don't want you flying alone on what you do in layovers bay self and stuff like that so i told her i said i said come on there and get you you know and <hes> anyway anyway she she's gonna come out and when she comes mom you are sitting right here. She's got to right here. You're going to sit in this seat and we see case it it there for forty five minutes. Oh yes she can. She sat out there. Y'all y'all aren't watching humor me on blaze t._v. You're missing out you gotta go. Let let me take the episode with my mother. Still probably my favorite boozy was good. 'cause we all went to her house. We crashed at badboy mothers. Living in the first house i ever bought my mother's living same house. She went and picked out this house and described it to me and i'm like must so anyway anyway. We set on her decker at the lake and stuff and we just you got to watch this episode with my mother. It's hilarious. You'll see where i get my mental damage damage from i'm sorry mom for calling people stupid but you know you now erin still less than episode episode again because this way union monday interaction was amazing but we kept talking about turtles yea chan edit that out. Gotta take that out that eh leads all the way up to one big final punchline. It's hilarious but your fam- your whole families like that. I mean dude locals. Look i make a living trying to be funny trying. I stress the word try. My family's funny really funny to shirley my aunt. She's funny conversation or we're talking about the eighty year old lady right there you can put my mother and shirley who you can put them on a reality show all you'd ever need your trunk driving cousin. What's his brick ring man. Yeah funny funny funny. Yeah we went over there and sat around smoke cigars and drinking whiskey at his place. He's married to my cousin kim just a mess. He's a character. Here's what we gotta do. We all need to go august georgia you. We need a lotta. I wish i could take everybody. I wish we could take all of this thing on the road. Just caravan in i mean we can put everybody on a plane. They just go somewhere and take take all the blaze people that want to go and i have a big old news matters all the time. They got tour bus and he was on his mom's back. Porch overlooks a little lake in dan mark make this happened marcus guy he is all it takes money people but we don't have any because you refuse to go over to youtube. Podcasts are offered whatever it's all on you. You won't see this happen this happen. Don't you punk. He got to go to our podcast. We we should do a fundraiser fundraiser home home home podcast. I'll tell you what's all emails to now. I love my mom. My mom's a trip trees funny and the whole family. They're nuts but yeah she's going to be. We're gonna get around here. They were getting this big peanut gal. Let me miss it. Oh tell me how to everybody. Everybody said we won't be in there by the. I'm gonna get here. My listen we have folks. Don't realize this but sitting off to the saturday we sometimes thumbs up ten eleven twelve people sitting in here and just just kind of his party. Tom new studio is going to be we have studio audience. Victim shar are y'all wait. We're not staying in the mother ship. It feels good in here now. Though yes nice air conditionings nice isn't it it almost too cold based based on what i'm seeing from you the essay rap shoes. I asked if i saw wow. I asked if i should change them beforehand. Shouldn't can i just tell you really quickly. These are more comfortable and easier to walk in than like a normal l. Stiletto the wedges the witch that yeah it's distribution. Hey if he could try on after we're done house. Full of girls like the oscar de la hoya rednecks. He's z. Party foul judo jimmy choo over there. Jimmy pardue chu yeah anyway. My personality perfectly but bob was funny is <hes> we're staying here. We're moving. We we're supposed to move in like january. February march april may june and july but apparently is going to be more like more like late september october. Maybe twenty twenty. We'll see t._v. Any time out studio building out the studio if the powers that be you're watching approved a budget so we can get this thing done. Okay come on. We're supposed to be in there. You need a two hundred episode to be here will be bringing. All the decor known on on on knows meant much of the stuff is staying behind bringing the deer herbert the silent dear <hes> herbert's gonna make the trip or not <hes> but the new studio is going to be bigger. It's gonna gonna be more expansive. It's gonna be exciting have different places where bigger better better busy going to be awesome bigger better better and so that's that's what we're gonna do and it's gonna be mom aw stay horned is going to be party time. I can't wait. I've seen the markup seeing the drawing seen all the stuff and it's going to be cool but we'll be able to have a lot more people in onset more voices. What i wanna do sarah. I wanna get tell me if you think people be interested in this. I would like to get i would like to get everybody this this involved with this show you included <hes> folks that have been on this show like david harris junior and just different perspectives different voices assist and get everybody and i would like to do almost like a round table discussion or one of those town hall type deals we bring up topics and everybody can talk about this thing of course in the way we do it where we have fun doing it madonna everybody to get these perspectives. You take this gun thing. Banning running guns ain't gonna work. Okay more laws. Don't make criminal. Stop breaking laws you can you can change the illegal you you can exchange one gun for the next. What is the solution <hes> people that are you know i contend that we need to let our kids get beat it up a little bit <hes> you let them get in a fight. Let them get bullied a little bit and teach them how to deal with bullies. They don't do that anymore. Now would protect them from god everything. Did you see the democratic socialist convention clips they were triggered by everything they were triggered by gendered pronouns and i mean you just said this and it made me think of them. We're raising a bunch of children who can't drink or my app triggered by literally everything twitter get on twitter and just start reading the threads uh-huh someone is triggered by literally everything you know i tweeted over the weekend at trend pretty high where where it was i said if you believe the color of your skin gives you some form of supremacy then you're an asshole. I mean that's my poetic eloquent way of saying. If you think the skin color makes you better better than your asshole if your skin color makes you a victim you're an asshole you just you know i'm sick of all of that stuff and nobody gets privilege because of their skin color. It's okay so i had this conversation. The other day the cigar shop with this guy from from sacramento from folsom california on the you start that story with. I had this conversation in stranger. He was visiting dallas black guy and we sat in there. We smoked cigar. We talked for an hour. We talk politics a little bit committed that fiscally he was a little more conservative. Socially he was pretty liberal and we we talked a little bit about different things and and <hes> you know you realize when you have those conversations you're you're you have far more in common with a total stranger they then you would be led to believe if you were to believe everything that's on social media you know and he made a valid point about yes. America is a land of opportunity and we we all have equal opportunities but it is true. There are certain people from certain culture certain environment certain neighborhoods if you will who who don't get afforded the same chance to do certain things that others do. I look i agree with that. I agree with that now. Can you pull yourself out of that yeah. I believe i can yes a a lot of times. People don't know how to do that. You know you're never been sean. Moved to texas got out of the situation. I was yeah but we're teaching the people i mean. We're incentivizing people to not do that right. We're incentivizing people to be more dependent on that's right. That's right instead of pulling them some themselves out. They're being taught that they just need to rely on the government to pull them out of whatever it is or to give them another program medicare for all or a racing student debt or whatever the case may be see that who who's incentivized to actually take responsibility for themselves these days nobody. It's like you remember the old sam kennison joke when he was doing standup he was like he'd. I'd say you know all these people starving to death at the opium. He said what i want to take a shot. He's covering their. He'd be like you see what this is. This is san dan. This is saying you know. It's going to be one hundred years. It's saying you gotta get outta here. So that's a whole that was the whole deal is was drawn up. Stage can't a great. I know it is but that's the whole point. Insanity sanity is doing everything the same way over and over again expecting different results so if you're gonna keep thinking they promised free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff free stuff. If if you're voting on the promise of free stuff you're going to be sadly disappointing because the free stuff you think you're gonna get is going to be far far inferior to what you can go out and earn yourself well speaking of voting. I mean i'm not saying we should do it but there is some sort of credibility. I feel to the people who you say that you know. Maybe it's a conflict of interest to have a bunch of people voting who are receiving all these programs that they're voting on. I mean and i'm not saying yeah 'cause you take away people's voting rights but i'm just saying i understand why they which repeal the fourteenth women have no business voting women the business voting look at you. You shouldn't vote. I'm on the off chance at bernie sanders or elizabeth warren. Don't <unk> get elected. I mean if they do get elected by the off chance in they don't elimidate eliminate student debt. Oh they're going to be pissed collision including me so there was a news article over the weekend. I'll pay my loans but my thing is. That's why i'm not paying any bills right. Now you know went back on in her masters degree and i think she was like twenty five thousand dollars and i might just hold out a little bit cold the minimum every month wait. I think i saw something interesting in the head was it oh you're going to like this one. Yeah this was a burning one this. This was y'all hang tight. Y'all y'all talk amongst yourself. Oh here it was that new yorkers need to earn at least one hundred thousand dollars to live alone because rent is gone so high all right so is based on the common rule that you shouldn't spend more than forty forty percents gross income on rent so for someone ernie salary sorry one hundred thousand dollars would mean that they spend around thirty three hundred dollars a month on rent. The popular neighborhoods were renting would require six figure salary include a prospect like heights brooklyn heights cobble hill so you can move you can move to things you could move to those neighborhoods before then either okay so what happens if bernie sanders. There's this one i read that article my first thought was let's say bernie or elizabeth warren and and also go up to they want an eighty percent tax on people. What are you gonna wanna do then how much money you gotta make then in order so then you gotta make one hundred eighty thousand dollars a year. Actually you gotta make a quarter of a million anymore because because because because you're you're you know even then you're still getting taxed. It's seventy eighty percent and you're still trying to pay forty percent towards your rent live in new york city. How how is this going to happen. It doesn't work folks simple economics okay but you can go to simple economics that the let's say minimum wage has has not increased at the same rate as inflation. Has it not no. Are you asking in comeback south okay because typically inflation's moving around two point five. Maybe three percent when it's rough about three percent a year so the minimum wage is not increasing by three percents every year not keeping up with that but that again that again minimum wage jobs are not intended to be life wages. They're not they're starter jobs. That's not a career career job if you're making minimum wage if the minimum wage is said whatever it is all the way up the chain goes up you know goes up yeah. He's on the move chad's home also and i'm not necessarily know let let's talk about the fact act that bernie sanders. What he just read was that he's talking about what it costs to live alone. In what world is it now. That's just what what we're we're supposed to be afforded. That's our right now the right to life liberty the pursuit of happiness oh and also to not have any roommates and live wherever we want to live like if you wanna live someplace in new york where it's extremely expensive offensive to live sean. I feel like you could speak to this. You don't just have the right to make sure that the government gives you enough money so that you can live without a roommate. That's not real life. No no that's not roommates right. That's the whole point than a lotta people in new york. They say you know what i'm choosing to live. In new york. I love the opportunities -tunities. It's affording me but i have to have a roommate because it is so expensive to live to live there and then have roommates line like this weird narrative that like people people is his roommate new thing. That's why i lived in one hundred episodes quite across the board you talking about income does not keep up with the rate of the cost of living. It doesn't but you should also. I mean if you wanna live yes. If you wanna live in cobble hill brooklyn or brooklyn high exactly yeah you're. That's a that's well. I consider where you live upper class north fort worth listen. Stay calm. You're not gonna go. Okay folks here know dallas fort worth. You're not going to go live and southlake. You're not going to go live in university or highland park minimum wage. That's not right this this apples and oranges in that regard these are these are high income people that are living in these places you talk about. What are you going to raise the minimum wage that gets into a whole other conversation that gets it's crazy. They're even burning proven with his own campaign staff that he couldn't pay them that he okay. We'll pay you fifteen dollars an hour but we're going to cut your hours right so you're making the same thing you already seen view. Doing i mean again. Let's go back to critical thinking my stoop. It's okay. I love y'all. Do i feel like if you call them stupid. They're probably not watching by this point. No they know me. They know it's just the the critical thinkers. I think we have still with us. Yeah the the ones who know me. They know they know i'm picking on. They don't call steve stupid episodes in no pretty much. Everybody's calling steve's states do hey as long as i get paid to be called stupid like minimum wage go to brooklyn. I always had a mentality because we grew up poor and i always thought my brother my brother and i was always dream. Where like we make eighty nine thousand dollars a year. We've made it. We got out of the hood. We survived and are you telling them to live in brooklyn. He's twenty two hundred thousand dollars. That's insane yeah but guess what you like. You said you you put you boo chefs on you. Get the hell out of that neighborhood. I got out of it i didn't want to i looked at myself. I don't live here in my life and i left. Some people are just like i'm stuck here and i have friends that are still stuck in certain parts of brooklyn like wait. You're still there yeah. I can't go back to visit my mom like whoa well and that's the thing so mindset because once you get in and go back to where we started. This conversation is are the opportunities out there. Yes they're out there but you got to be willing to pull yourself out of it. Say i want better for myself or miki opportunity. I won't better from a family and that's the thing <hes> you know talking to that guy that i was talking to yesterday in the cigar shop or the other day in the cigar shop. He is a psychologist. He is a counselor for folsom prison. His wife life is an r._n. And i might look at yourself i said. Did you not have the opportunity to do what you're doing. I mean you got great careers here in your in your household he goes well. Yes okay in california the bad parts of california. That's what he told me said i said. What part of california are you from. He's a bad part okay well. Is there a part. That's not the bad guy knows. Beverly hills is amazing people. They live in their minimum wage either but they do have mcdonald's in beverly hills and it sucks. Actually i want to get through there but the but look look you took advantage of the opportunity afforded you and you did it so anyway. It's out. There is what you wanna do with your life. It all starts starts with the individual no matter what you're dealing with stars with the individual in this country donald trump you call them which one calling jesus christ could get elected president. You're going to have problems with him. I mean they crucify jesus crucified jesus for crying out loud from being the son of god and they crucified him for blasphemy and being against what everybody was thinking in the group think of the day so the fact that they're crucifying donald trump is out there doing some pretty dang good things pretty moderate things by and large not really far right at all just shows you where people are people haven't changed in millennia. They're still gonna crucify. Good things are still going to terrify this and they cruise fudd w there were people who you know well. It's it's basically an if if you don't agree with the left's radical narrative you are all right now. There's no in between there's no talk of anything that's moderate water. It's just if you do not sign off on all of these radical policies. You are right and we will label you as such. Which is why someone like. Ben shapiro gets labeled all right. I mean anti-semites yeah. Do you know who penned shapiro is. Sapiro shapiro should be summed up in the name fish right there in front from the hood right now man yarmulke. He's on the bean pod. Every saturday saturday takes a day of rest where he's not all social media at all not alad white supremacist. Oh yeah i'm gonna be jewish. I went to church yesterday. Whoa you start making ben shapiro. Money can searches today but i might i might be jewish. Sabbath sounds kind of good on a saturday saturday. Though i don't even know the regret nowadays one hundred episode party reno right there chattel writers put them all stay comes out of the individual donald trump brock go bama george w bush jesus christ whoever's president is not coming to your house for coffee to solve your problems. You got to govern yourself yourself. You've got to govern your family got to govern your neighborhood your community your county your state on down the line. That's what it comes down to stop hating on each other love and then frankie frankie frankie told dana lash said her kids are gonna get shot at some event or something like that my gal ah frankie p._c. Mark that can handle promise you want him to walk around weiner took between his legs and what he is ball's ain't drop is true. I my heart goes out today's strong uh-huh who she is. She is strong and she doesn't need necessarily our you know our sympathy or support because she certainly can take care of herself but it's just not right. It's just not fair that so not there and kills a bunch of people and somehow some complete stranger to that killer is is the default yeah right. It's her. It's her fault fault kid but you gonna turn around and talk about her. Kids getting killed. We see where the damn problem is is with your months exactly mental host exactly you're crazy so many things speaking of mental health sean the n._r._a. Has done behind the scenes to help. Strengthen strengthen laws when it comes to mental health and owning guns the i._r._a. Has been at the forefront of all of that of course trump dan. I people well. That's already been taken dr too late. Shawny go back to church. Good exits twelve chapter. One to twelve fourteen eighteen was great toil. It's celebration. It's honestly you know how. I was not a trump supporter in two thousand sixteen. No neither was i i am. They have pushed this so far that i'm just i am so on board with trump. I am maga. I i bought a red hat. I almost where it to work to the airport and then i got scared because i was with my kids and i didn't but i mean really like it's they have pushed people who were not full on with trump who were not fully on board are now like we've got vote for him. This is way too crazy and it's way too hateful. I mean i got a new york city. I mean i'm from new york to see like the melting pot and he wore magazine. He got his ass. Be i saw the majors and that's what we've counterpoint council point where it's like. You can't wear if you oppose whatever the whatever's going on. You're gonna get your ass beat that sad make margarita hat the other day maggie inaugurated the rain magherita got some looks and finally yes so one of the reasons he said oh my gosh i just read. Your hat is as long as you saw it well. Isn't it sad though i'm like i just wanna wear my hat and i it was actually a conversation. I had to have with my husband of a really. I want to wear it but i'm worried because we have our son with us. I don't want anyone to say something to me that he hears and should i wear it. Should i not okay. I guess i shouldn't wear it. We're wear blue giant. We're joining so it'd be better <hes> that's not going to happen. That's fine cowboy side. I'm happy to wear delete that uh-huh. That'll get you beat up somewhere to philly ever be right here woman listen. I wore my keep. I keep magherita great hat. Which by the way will the new edition will be on sale at watch chad dot com next week so everybody gets their maga- rita hats and you can get your ass kicked to it is it is a fun though 'cause people do they do. They live where they give you. The look like they're pissed and then they're like oh. I love it and hers. We were at the gaylord texan. We we're spending the night we were up there for an event and people would stop. She was coming out of the elevator and just looking and want to watch yeah. It's fake outrage anyway. It's fake outrage stole matt dolly. They need a safe space. You really do go suck your thumb. That's why your parents didn't b._p. Parachute up really drivers road rage. It's fake yeah. Just yell and cuss but i really don't mind not fake the fake yeah well. I'm still revs up my engines and still still chases them in my car to catch up with them then pulls up beside himself. They've got a gun shoot outside. It's gonna hit me steve pecker head. He really is uh of jesus gerald chronic. I gotta give you a shout out. Gerald critic is watching this thing right now. Promise you do you have been faithful listener to the podcast bro. I had to give you a shout guy. He's on here faithfully watching everyone the other night he said this is the first one i haven't watched live so hundredth anniversary. I gotta give a shout. Jerrell man do a good job hanging in there buddy. I want everybody to tell tell tell your friends about this. Show and watch the news and why it matters. If you have dish it's on channel two twelve channel twelve in the afternoons evenings the news and what matters that's i love doing it. I'd be on that show every single day if i could if my time it allow it i love to mr hollywood over here to be on the show. I think might have triggered by the other day but i was. I was sure ooh. I just love to see how far we can push it well. It was funny because i was. I was trying to decide. I did a little internal poll of whether or not i thought that they were gonna actually believe you episode. They didn't they which i thought made it much more enjoyable. The point of the conversation was if you're bernie sanders. Who would you you go after david. Harris asked me that and i said i'd go after elizabeth warren now i would tell her. We're going to make peace and we're gonna make each other look good but she's the one who can beat you on that debate stage stage the other night and i'd be like okay. This is what we're going to. We're going to come out on one of sued us about you and you'll go to say this about me. We're going to be just fine when we come out of this thing was would it be trending at the top but when i hit that stay out of been expert uh-huh oh curry better team up against tamala right you think causes dangerous dangerous and all she wants to do is debate the best biden because he sees him as the only threat in the air allen pompeo <hes> from grey's anatomy grey's anatomy caught all kinds of hell all for for criticizing kamala because she said you're too which i mean she's liberal. Chelsea married to a black man so they were calling a racist. You know she's married to a man collar racists for call out kamala harris her saying you're being too arrogant. In this this debate you need to you need to <hes> humiliates humble yourself a little bit you know and so everybody was jumping on her ass for for say and stuff like that they'll devour of our their own judging by my own facebook in france from left to right from one extreme to the other. It's all the people on the right that are actually watching the democratic democrat debate so i'll just find that funny are found it funny but what do i do. I so my soul so i can make a book in the trump administration. Oh my god. I hate that shut up. I mean screw the fact that you've ever had any convictions. No i don't like it when you kill unborn babies and y'all have been doing it for decades and i fight against that. I don't like expansive government which i think would those days are long gone trying to limit anything because conservatives having a conservative dern thing. We were screwed in that regard. I don't like you trying thank to steal my rights. I don't like the idea that that that got to go on for ages. How about the conviction for years. I don't like the way you do things. If you're liberal well or the faux outrage over trump daring suggests that baltimore is a crop poll crap. Hall you realize over the weekend. They had another one of their ceasefires ceasefire. They have ceasefire weekends in baltimore. They've always done it like mother's day weekend you. We don't want any bagging guilt so let's have a ceasefire weekend in baltimore the charm city that's their nickname that charms uh-huh fitting name hefty bags are charming rats are charming. Logic comments was like a fifty five. Oh three that's a challenge uh-huh forever gang banger. You know criminal in this study saw last weekend it just the tho out there. They're going to beat the record this year. You're really the records three hundred eight three hundred nine people on a ceasefire weekends if died getting shot over the years as the record in one year. They're already well over two hundred. They're going to have more ceasefire weekends and guess what what are they together have parades rallies and they just all get together where they can be easy targets. Let me tell you got something else twenty twenty. I want you to go out and vote. I want you to go out and vote you. Go out and vote. I want you to go out and vote. I want you to register as a democrat. I want you to vote marianne williamson williamson to win this whole thing so we can get this psychic aura of this nation back in place place an all of the people will have one colored face okay so do the hippy be part of me know what tulsi gabbard almost has me convinced to become a liberal almost can look so good on that debate in the white unnamed looks like an angel. Oh just turn me on the way she just slapped kamla harris. We might need to put an explicit warning commencement. What is leave it at that time. They'll still love jesus but a fighter. I love jesus and sunday you love exits twelve jeopardy everette roman twenty six twelve dog dog. It was good. Stop talking black man staying corners amazing celebration of jesus. You probably have black jesus. The guy was dancing on stage. Costlo asked about seven a hollywood. I gotta love come on. Look here jesus black com- laris out yes he also so as i mean let's be honest. She knows her place. She's just trying to get in with biden so she can get a spot with him. She's two keys hedging her bets that biden's going to be <hes>. That'd be the smartest move for her. No absolutely absolutely she cute. She has county anyway. She's she is smart dangerous. She's smart. Just go to joe three zero three three oh but i thought they made it clearly us go to joe. If you want to help go to joe three oh three three oh i could do china will hack into the teleprompter and they'll just put stuff out there like national secrets and joe so we'll just be reading from the teleprompter and the launch code seven eight one four to six d x the dollar sign forty seven. I worry about him pass code. If you want to help us go go to joe at three zero three three. Oh i mean right yes. It's the best thing i saw all weekend. I i watched it twenty times times. Everybody said go to my website and then beat buddha judges his campaign. They stole the website joe at three zero three three zero. Oh dot com. That's fantastic. Gosh how about how he's do. What did you hear what he said about the shooting. He said that his he something about me and my heart goes out to he said houston and michigan again. She's he is. He is getting up. There in this thing left didn't want another old white guy but that's who's leading the toxic toxic steve. You're toxic old white guys bernie toxic bernie joon run elizabeth grab me a beer foca hanis white man polka hall what i call him pogo honky the chad show gotta watch chad dot com find me out on tour. I am going to be in ogden utah friday night on tuesday night weird nights to be in the most liberal city in montana missoula montana come on bring liberal dylan hell out of them. We're gonna have some fun gonna the house last. I'll even make fun of donald trump for about that. Make you happy sh- missoula montana that's right. We're going to be there this tuesday night next tuesday night. We're gonna come to montana. We'll go hang out and have a good time the next show after that can't wait to go cowdery august twentieth. We're going to international waters baby. Calgary canada go spend a couple of days of they're actually going to hang out because the weather's cool and it's nice beautiful and i love banff and all those beautiful places up there so come on canadians actually had someone asked me this morning. Say could you please come up here and run for prime minister like people all the time. He's run for president in twenty four four. No it's really amazing the number fans you have from in canada and australia though we don't get stabbed we've got a lot in australia stays on immigration. We got a lot in canada and don't do another trudeau. Okay that panty waste where son of it when we ain't there's a there's a growing number of people and canada. I think tired of it. We'd they've same brexit they've seen maga- uh-huh tired of it and i'm going up there to be with the good folks cowdery and we'll have a good time. I wanna go to alaska to we need alaska. She did eight. Do we have fans up. There buddy carl's up there. Let's go see your buddy carl carl call all he's keeping all the lectures on alaska or something slow. I wanna i wanna do that. I wanna go to <hes> well. We're going want to back out to california. In september. I love going to california. We got fresno. We got a yountville which is napa valley and then we've got folsom so folsom awesome fresno and napa going to be up there. Watch chad dot com victoria texas victoria texas show in october october eighteenth went on sale yesterday. The link is on facebook pages also and watch dot com. You can get them all mobile alabama. That's gonna be a big show october four. That's going to be a big show mobile and by the way next week. I'm gonna make an announcement. 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CAFE Insider 07/29: Mueller Testimony Aftermath

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CAFE Insider 07/29: Mueller Testimony Aftermath

"Hi folks in other week of news to make sense of Congress cannot seem to agree on how to proceed after former special counsel Robert Muller's Marathon Congressional testimony last week trump's forthcoming nomination of Republican Representative John Ratcliffe to be the next director of National Intelligence. The Justice Department announced that the federal the government will resume its use of capital punishment. Jeffrey Epstein was found injured in semi-conscious in his jail cell. An American rapper has been charged and detained in Sweden for assault and president trump slammed the Swedish prime minister for not taking orders to release them. I talked about all this and and more within no room in the Cathay insider podcast each week fee breakdown the news and take stock of what's happening today. We're making a clip from the most recent episode available in the stay tuned feet to listen to our conversation and access all other cafe insider content become a member at cafe dot dot com slash insider. That's cafe dot com slash insider. You do raise interesting question though again. I don't have this either the saying I would charge. I would definitely charge. There's a piece there. I feel very strongly that there's something about accountability that we're missing right now and that we have to figure out like what is the accountability mechanism and let's even talk about the two thousand twenty election piece cow. Do we get to a point where we hold our current government accountable for the fact that our election systems it said that report that came out last Thursday from the Intelligence Committee. The bipartisan report said that all fifty states had had election interference all fifty fifty. It's extraordinary I mean there's a lot we can talk about this but one of the things I was found chilling. Was this question they have at the beginning is what's the motive and so. Did you follow this like. There's two possible things. 'cause they have the first is that the Russians were infiltrating all these systems and they have I._p.. Addresses Internet Protocol addresses that the Russians were sending to these these state election systems where they were able to sort of access information about voters one possible motive. The first one they say is that they were testing it out for future use and that to me is chilling. The second option was which I actually found less compelling was basically influence the election by showing their ability to essentially hack into these voting systems. There are a lot of reasons why I don't think that's as credible of analysis but this is really serious. What do we do about it? Free no pressure. There are a number of bills that are pending in the Congress none of which Mitch McConnell the Senate majority earlier wants to move on the bottom line problem. All of this is that the president doesn't want any of these things to get attention even on going forward basis because any suggestion that there will be interference in the future he does not sever that from interference in the past asked and even though all the Intel services say there was interference even though there's basically unanimity that the Russians interfered and the interfered on the side of president trump and one president trump to win that undermines president trump's vanity about legitimacy of the election and any attention to going forward. Even though it's good for the country he is like an emphasis on. I was on Mancini late on the evening of the testimony with robbery as a Republican lawyer supported the president in the thing we talked about was why doesn't the president show some some leadership and I actually think it'd be good for him. He could say look. I won legitimately say whatever he wants to say about twenty sixteen I to care about America to care about elections. I care about democracy and to care about interference from a foreign adversary so we should pass these laws and we should be strong going forward. And it's good for him for another reason. If the thing he cares about the most with his fragile ego is doubt about the legitimacy of his election he could get reelected. I know people don't want to hear that but he could easily get reelected and if he has not taken any effort to do something about it and and there is as we know there will be some form of interference in the two thousand twenty election he will then have the burden of having defend against the second illegitimate election right because he never did anything about it and in fact you know last time around encouraged it even though you didn't get charged for it and seems to be if if not encouraging it at least pass allowing to happen and the other thing is once people have seen in other countries. The Russians basically gotten away with it. There's no price to pay from the president. Other countries are going to get in on a two completely. I mean it's like the United States. Elections are open for business and so why would a foreign adversary hostile state power not do it you tweeted out last week and I thought this was a great thing a link to one of the Donald Trump tweets. This was from July ninth two thousand seventeen. I swear to you I thought I forgot your tweet was wish someone had asked Muller about this. tweet reporters still can ask trump about the abject idiocy and disloyalty chose and here's the Donald J trump tweet Putin and I discussed forming an impenetrable the trouble cybersecurity unit so that election hacking and many other negative things will be guarded. It's like the Fox in the Henhouse One oh one he's like why don't we just let Valdimir Putin takeover election security and he can do whatever he wants to do. I mean it about that like the next time anybody whether it's Maria Bartiromo who I don't know what happened to her or anyone else says the president show him. Some of these statements is it's not just I'm not sure about the election interference. He literally was saying we're going to get together with. The Putin the person who was responsible for the election interference who's state agents have been charged with committing crimes related to hacking into our election and say let's you and I an impenetrable was impenetrable penetrable but it's really very unclear an impenetrable cybersecurity unit but then he says guard than maybe he meant what he said guard the negative things. What does it say in so that election hacking and many other negative things will be guarded regarded? Maybe he actually is very clever so we can we can preserve the interference and all the bad things about him will never come out. They can be guarded to your point. You're right about this about how important it is for the country. It's also very foolish to think that all the hacking from foreign adversaries is will benefit you as the president currently believes right it could be what goes around comes around in some future election. There could be some country decides. We want the Democrat to win and it's just all bad for us. It's bad for to have a farm power on either side pushing into the election one thing I want to know what I'm going to disclose one of my past secrets pre which is then you may not know this. We get some music. When I was a g I ran the division of elections for the State of New Jersey and I agreed to give that to the secretary of state because the really should not run the division elections say for many reasons which is way too complicated? I also ran by the way mixed martial arts and the horse just showing off his showing. It's going to be like a joke of what what I can speak to you but one of the things I ran the barbecue did yeah yeah there was a whole barbecue every summer. That's an I didn't really run. I was figuring that's a pretty good thing barbecue dinosaur barbecue very yummy. Oh I love dinosaur barbecue. Going back to the joint intelligence report that came out last Thursday. What are the things that they highlighted and I think is so important to talk about is the fact that the states are just not equipped to deal with election hacking by a sophisticated state run foreign adversary and I can tell you look I think the election folks that I worked within the State of New Jersey? Were extraordinarily talented. There's no way that this they're not cybersecurity experts. They wouldn't know how to respond. There's so much that the federal federal government needs to do in this space and to to say that states are in charge of elections okay but there are plenty of spaces take education for example that are hybrids where the federal government has standards and rules and the states also have standards and rules and so there's as a space here that if we do not fix this will never be able to feel confident in our elections because that is a level of sophistication that the states they just don't have an I don't expect them to have people can call Mitch McConnell. Senator Mitch McConnell believes the hold on these these bills and put them on the floor so one thing when I was sitting on the panel at C._N._N.. Last week was there was a congressman rackliff who some people didn't like this. When I said it on twitter he was pretty effective question? You asked this question about Leeann version of the burden in whether or not there was any policy backing for by Muller's apparent decision to say no exoneration. We've been talking about that a lot and I think they're good answers to that. I think it was not quite fair. What I'm in say but it was effective because he was a pretty strong questioner and it got my attention and mother was not able to push back at him in the way that I thought he might have been unable to and someone else on the panel said well? Here's what's going on. He's auditioning for the job of director of National Intelligence T._N._I.. And sure enough the reporting as we come into the studio and Monday morning July twenty ninth is that he's going to be. Nominated because Dan Coats former senator never on the same page quite on the same page with Donald Trump has announced his resignation and it looks like coats is being pushed out just to be clear. It looks like the president has tweeted out negative things about coats in the past and we should talk about Dan coats just for a second. He's a former senator. He also like other members of the Intelligence Committee has been very strong in saying that Russia hacked the election and that we need to do more for election security so he has been at odds with the President I would argue very much on the substance of what happened in two thousand sixteen coats has been honorable. I don't want to endorse everything he's done but I think he's very much been willing to step out and say contrary to what the president has thought and said that he thinks that there's a problem and so when you speak out against that's the president that puts you on the outs and so the president is now putting in Representative Radcliffe who is a former U._S.. Attorney former prosecutor so you've done terrorism cases you know you've been top secret cleared. I've been top secret cleared. I've been briefed on intelligence. Intelligence matters many times. It still feels to me like deny. The director of national intelligence should be an intelligence someone who is part of the intelligence community and not a prosecutor. I don't know if that's fair enough but that was my first reaction. I have maybe minority view on some of these things on all positions of leadership. I think there's an important factor to consider in that is direct relevant expertise and experience and I think that's incredibly important. It is not the only thing I think there are people who are really smart really good. Managers are very good judgment who I would trust to lead basically clearly any agency even if they didn't have a lot of subject matter expertise in the way that you might want because you know that they're going to hire good people and you know that they have good judgment an example of this if somebody who was belittled when he was first selected for the position didn't have intelligence experience. It's race season member of Congress working. I hope you've enjoyed the sample of the cafe insider podcast to listen to the full episodes head to.

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The Growing Threat of a Digital Coup by the Tech Tyrants (Ep 1363)

The Dan Bongino Show

1:31:25 hr | 3 months ago

The Growing Threat of a Digital Coup by the Tech Tyrants (Ep 1363)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host Dan Bongino. Different background on my show today we're up in. New. York have at Medical procedure done tomorrow my neck. So we will have a show tomorrow though we're GONNA be recording a little later. Tonight. So the show will unless something breaks at about five o'clock tomorrow Wednesday morning we'll have a show I've got some really good stuff. I've taken a whole bunch of notes also with today's show. We we got a lot for you. It's loaded I got an interview with Alan Bakari about tech tyranny. He wrote a book exposing facebook twitter. He has insiders they gave him some really troubling information that'll be towards the end of the show. I've also got an insurance in the beginning about some new spy gate stop You know a lot of you've email me and I appreciate it about hey. Why don't you take a vacation and honestly folks just being candid with the I, just don't. Want to I enjoy the show I enjoy being with you and I enjoy exposing the stuff. So I appreciate your off all your goodwill, your twitter parlor facebook and emails. It really does mean the world to me we're always keep you updated Paulo will put some out on facebook probably tomorrow too. So thank you I finish about you may express VPN protect your online activity today from prying eyeballs. Get A VPN go express VPN dot com slash bongino would welcome in producer Joe but he's listening for Maryland given that we're in a hotel room up in New York I just don't have another line for Joe. So it's just me impala sit right over there helping me produced the show Folks also one bit of news for to our spot. In the show today my book comes out unfortunately a series of unfortunate events. I won't be doing much media on this week hopefully next week but is always if you'd like to pick it up appreciate, it's called follow the money. It's all about the Obama fixer. V Pope from. The type character Obama had in the White House. the FBI aged all of these players you haven't heard about Catherine rambler. Anthony. Ferranti who basically were key figures in the spy gate scanlon. You haven't heard much about them. There's also a Soros Angle in the beginning with Ukraine's going to blow your mind Soros. It's FBI woman, Karen. Greenaway. All kinds of stuff you haven't heard about check it out, follow the money out today available on Amazon Barnes and noble bookstores today everywhere. So again, apologize for not doing more media about it we'll do it. Next week obviously, this a medical situation took precedent. All right. I want to get to this first right after the spot people freaking out in the media I. I have a supercup from the great Tom Gray and Tom Elliott greybeard excuse me of the media freaking out because Donald Trump appears to have recovered at least now fingers are still crossed prayer still up from the corona virus. We'll see how that goes before. 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It's a serious health situation but every American regardless of your political affiliation re-stripe or whatever ideological leanings are should be contented happy that the United States is not in fact dying. Not The media they seem furious that president trump not only seems to be recovering but made a triumphant return back to the White House yesterday meanwhile, you was Obama doing it he would be on Mount Rushmore tomorrow they would have an emergency laser cutting operation into the hills into the rock to put matter of fact, they would add Obama on top of the other presidents at Mount Rushmore on top just to make sure everybody knew that he was in fact the monarch he's the golden calf we should all go and genuflect but because it's trump, here's the reaction by the absolutely ridiculous mainstream media totally melted down now that trump appears to be getting better check this ridiculous out. President trump wrote on twitter. Don't be afraid of Kobe don't let it dominant your life. Almost, two hundred ten, thousand Americans are dead speaking of outrageous outrageous tweet. Oh my goodness Nicole. I saw that trump I mean I literally was. Overwhelmed we see this tweet which is. Heartless it is. Cruel this this is so disrespectful. I'm not even sure I. Can I can speak about this it's incredibly incredibly disrespectful. What does that mean? Don't be afraid of it. I mean first of all, it's a contagious disease that kills people. There's nowhere to even begin. It's gross. It's such. Distressing moment is just so horrible son. So destructive to say I feel better than I have in twenty years that he's saying this is so disrespectful. The President says it's no big deal I. Mean it's outrageous. It is insulting to the people who have lost loved ones. It is insulting to every American who wears a mass I mean it's disgraceful wolf it's absurd. Don't tell your supporters don't be afraid of Kovin everyone should be afraid of it's okay to be afraid of Covid and it's Ok that that it's dominating your life because. It has dominated your life. I. I. So. I. Took a few notes on this. Make sure I got some key points out to get past the frustration of having to deal with this juvenile kindergarten like stupidity all the time. So trumpster covering in the media's devastated Trump said afterwards and what I thought was rather good speech from the balcony up there on the second floor of the white. House. You know not to be afraid. I don't understand where the controversy is in that message. Do. They want you to be afraid. The. Answer I think obviously with the media. Is Yes and I thought maybe the best way to explain this is imagine saying this pretend it's not trump because the media can't obviously can't get away from its own bias when it comes to trump and are content to make fools out of themselves on the air proudly. So I think generations from now will look back at this moment and the laughter and the historical commentary will be about the media not trump. Imagine saying this about any other crisis imagine being in a war God forbid World War Two a you know a really catastrophic human events like that and the message from FDR in Churchill being be afraid be very afraid be terrified huddled in your home's imagine that now you're probably sitting there in the background thinking that's absurd. That's ridiculous No one would ever do that. Fear leads to leads to Panik Panik leads to irrational behavior feared us and help I mean Wendy's fear. When does fear help you? I'm not talking about concern I'm talking about fear. Typically overwhelming fear leads to Panik Panik leads to paralysis paralysis leads to an action in action leads to poor decisions. That's why during war during crises in the past viral outbreaks, whatever they are, there's been an effort to tell the American people don't be afraid. Don't panic be concerned follow the science but no follow science follow. Follow Common Sense Public Health procedures that's not what they want. Now, the media wants fear 'cause election coming up so they're genuinely terrified themselves that trump's message don't be afraid don't be afraid be concerned. Wash your hands do what you need to do but don't be afraid. They're genuinely concerned that that's going to take hold because they want you afraid because they wanted to influence your decision making because full-time Democrat activists and it's disgusting. I can't imagine a time in American history where the. Bravest most entrepreneurial prosperous country in the history of humankind, the United States of America. Who have left their dead on the battlefields and foreign countries as we gave the land back, we took back for those foreign countries. I can't imagine the the the prevailing message of the day being be afraid be very afraid all the time. That's just not us. And it's not trump. And that drives the media. Crazy. All right moving on because I got the this block, and then again, we got the NFL pleased all don't skip out on the interview that these interviewed the of the my show today. It's length is about forty five minutes. It is worth your time. What facebook insiders another tech people are telling the BREITBART technology writer Allah car and he put his new book is really really fascinating stuff. All right. Let me move on. So the Benson breaks in the spy gate case I wanted to get on the air today and talk about because it. Really important. You know I really Adore Maria Bartiromo from Fox. She is one of the few true journalists left who has done some real homework and digging on the spy gay case she's known from the beginning she has impeccable sources and I suspect some of her sources, maybe some of my sources or. Vice versa, whatever it doesn't really matter because I'm hearing the same thing she is She did an interview with Jim. Jordan. I JUST WANNA. Play the first half where she meant when she mentioned something critical because this is what I'm hearing to. Let me at the bottom line up front. Everyone Knew Ladies and gentlemen. Everyone knew that this collusion hoax from the beginning From the beginnings of 2016. Was a hoax and that Hillary had made it up. Everyone knew the real scandal here always is not that the information about trump colluding with the Russians was fake everybody knew that and Maria Bartiromo brings up a great point and this piece. That's what political opponents do they make up fake stuff I'm not I'm not I'm not not not not please don't Send Me Nasty grants I'm not justifying Grotesque Hillary Clinton's horrendous disgusting behavior. There may be some criminal liability people in her campaign to I'm not sure I'm simply suggesting to you this scandalous of this if you had to rank. Them it's not just that Hillary's a loser we know that and that she was going to make up a collusion charge it's at the FBI I went along with it and weaponized themselves to help Hillary, do it. That's done. The top of the Totem Pole Maria Manos is so she brings up two points in this car. I want you to listen for number one that she knows everybody was read in collusion thing was a hoax and that Hillary made it up number one point number two, our currency I director Gina Hospital. What the Hell is she up to remember where she was before this? She was over in. London. With the CIA in London while this whole spy gate scandal was going on. An important point listen to this cut this two takeaways I'll explain why they matter in a minute. Look you can't say that Hillary Clinton should go to jail for this. It's not that this is the FBI anybody can say anything about their opponent and that's what Hillary Clinton was doing. But the fact that the FBI was complicit that she was able to get the US government intelligence agencies to work with our and we know that the CIA and the FBI were both involved in trying to take down trump what do you make of these sources telling me and also telling the federalist that currency I director Gina Hospital is trying to stop anymore declassification of documentation. Remember while Bredon was running around trying to come up with stories against trump she was running the CIA in London. So. She knows what I know I. Think. Against some of our sources may be the same. There are apparently a treasure trove of documents that blowers finally people in the Intel community came forward. and have pushed in front of lawmakers and other people's eyeballs. This is new information ladies and gentleman for those you in the past saying where the whistle blowers, where were these FBI or CIA people that knew this was going wrong. The answer is I don't know why they didn't come forward sooner. I don't know patriotic duty to do. So the bottom line is apparently some of them are coming forward now. There appears to be an evidence trail paperwork actual paperwork indicating this big takeaway here. Brennan and the FBI leaders combing them new obviously Clinton made up the collusion hoax. Brennan and apparently covered his tracks. There's apparently a bunch of documentation that Brennan was trying to pass the buck to the FBI. He knew the collusion hoax was fake. But was. Seating it like he was watering a plant. And then constantly passing the buck to the FBI say, Hey, it's not my job to investigate this domestic stuff. You're. So Brennan, what I think exists out there. From my sources is. A series of information that acts like the Susan Rice email that Brennan wrote some documents. That act like that January fifth Susan Rice email, she wrote to herself. She's me the right before the inauguration. Where Susan Wright wrote row Rice wrote to herself in an email. Hey I told us to do everything by the book. Remember that there appears to be a series of though is that Brennan did as well where Brennan wrote Say documents trying to cover his own but knowing he was advancing the collusion oaks knowing it was fake but passing it off on the FBI make sense for you. Sure. All right. I need my I'd I always need an ombudsman for the show because I don't know if I'm explaining? Well so that's number one. Butts APP. You can use your thumb. Did. That get into screen two thumbs up. Polish somebody who don't believe she actually exists policies actually made it in the screen and it's very nice So that's it. There you go. Thumbs up. Apparently there are actual documents that I'm hearing are not smoking guns. I'm hearing their nuclear bombs that there's no spinning them that they basically admit to the conspiracy. Calories making this up. This collusion hoax and that there are notes in there indicating they knew what was made up Brennan, pushed it anyway but then pushed it off on the FBI say, Hey, it's not my responsibility. You guys have to investigate this domestic stuff you dig. Brennan, appears to have covered his tracks a bit. We'll see what that means in the long run again, my information. Good. But in many ways limited because of I'm obviously not on any of these committees and I don't have access to the classified documents but my frame I've never let you down with sources right now part of that. So that's part one I think Maria here in the same thing that the documents underlying John ratcliffe letter are absolutely devastated part number two Gina Hospital. Gina. Hospital is his current CIA director. I'm hearing she's in the way. That the people who've seen these documents and the evidence that everybody knew this was a scam from the start and Brennan tried to push off on the FBI that the declassifications are being blocked by Gina Hassle in some way she doesn't have authority really to do that but she's I'm hearing from some Paul Sperry put this on the tweet that there may be a grey male situation. Okay. Mail is it's like blackmail, but it's great. That people in the intelligence community may be saying you really wouldn't want this to league out. You because if this leaked out, it could damage national security and you would want to be accused of damaging national security before an election. Right MR trump. You get it. You. Dig. The problem is it would damage national security and all this is a threat. I'm hearing from sources that Gina Hospital under our CIA are getting in the way here if a declassification now, why would genus both from the CIA be interested in making all this information go away remember it's very simple. Hillary made it up. Brennan knew she made it up Off to the FBI investigated a made up collusion charge just the hammer trump don't ever forget it. Bottom line up front is super simple. Well why would get in the way? Well how? One of the heads officials and was in London. As. All of this was going on and being formulated. Now. Why does that Matter Because Ladies and gentlemen? This whole thing went down in the beginnings in London. George Popadopoulos, the trump campaign adviser. At the time he was a low level, guy. But. The FBI alleges this whole case started about fake collusion because popped up Popadopoulos met with an Australian diplomat in a bar London and said that basically the Russians may have some kind of dirt on Hillary. That meeting happened in London. Data's. Important May Tenth. You follow me. Thumbs up again. Thumb, we need them. Where is it? I thought that you go. Thumbs up. May. Tenth. London. The whole thing's alleged begun when Popadopoulos says the Downer Popadopoulos from the trump campaign. Hey, the Russians may have dirt on Hillary course that conversations disputed. What else happens in the United Kingdom What's really fascinating about this is Christopher Steele. Who wrote the dossier alleging collusion between Russia and trump that hillary us he used to be a UK agent. He worked for the UK intelligence services. There's another interesting angle. But. Here's where it gets really fascinating. Let me show you this article from the Guardian check this out again, this is not a conservative newspaper here. This is the Guardian. In the UK wrote this article British spies were I the spot trump teams links with Russia. April thirteenth twenty seventeen. It says that the which is a British intelligence is said to have alerted US agencies to becoming aware of context and twenty fifty. So. Just follow me here. Maria Bartiromo and others included a hearing that the currency I director genus blocking declassification of information that will blow the spy gate thing wide open how they frame trump for fake collusion charge. Gina has who was in London as the framing happen the framing started with George Popadopoulos in May of two thousand sixteen. The British newspapers are already reporting that the British, the British where CIA currency a director Genus Bulwark while reporting on trump's activities on it as late as as early as two thousand fifteen. Spy and they used to fabricate and give the framing collusion charges the for the. Sorry. Did I just say that? Joe You'RE GONNA have to believe that out the bull blank collusion charges. That they in fact, use the. UK Aged. powerball. Beat, that out for the radio steel steel was a UK eight. The Guardian knew about this the whole time. Now. Here's where it gets really interesting. I want to show you an email and I want to give a big hat tip to our great friend on twitter undercover Huber who does some of the finest investigative work out there. I actually re tweeted this today because this thread is going to become very important, very fast according to my sources. So, Popadopoulos meets Downer on May tenth. The currency a director was in London at the time Popadopoulos meets down in London. This is where the frame job begins. Who else was in London on May Tenth Let me show you this email from the number. One official in the FBI worked right under Andy McCabe and Komi for counterintelligence. His name was bill price step. Where was he the week of? May. Ten, twenty, sixteen when this framing was begun. Oh look at this. Look at his email from pre step e W. Counterintelligence Division FBI he writing Angie. Andrew McCabe about mid-year exam. Sir. I will be out of town next week and so I wanted to provide you my initial thoughts sent. Friday may six. Twenty Sixteen May Say all right and kind of a retry Paula. That's what you're saying. He said he's out of town. He didn't say he was in London may tenth when George Popadopoulos was framed in order to advance the collusion hoax everybody knew was a hoax. No he didn't in that email, but someone else did in a text. Of course I always predict the evidence. So let me show you that text look at the date on this one. Oh. Fourth Twenty. Sixteen Peter Stroke who worked directly under bill priced them. Hey going back to them. Texas. Girlfriend is going back to that memo just remembered Jones wants something soon tonight or tomorrow. I don't know bill will read it before he gets back from London. Next. Week. You like to. I rarely get sound effects Polish he was like. Well. That's a whole different. Let's leave for a weekend show, but still you get my point. What the hell was the head of FBI counterintelligence doing in London with a currency I e director Gina Hospital used to work on the same week George Popadopoulos framed. For collusion hoax with Russia based on a meeting with an Australian diplomat. What was she doing? What was he doing over there? You'RE GONNA. Tell me with a straight face CINA has and know about it. Ladies and gentlemen. Give me a break. It all went down in London I've been telling you this forever. The British were onto this they know they're onto this they were. In the beginning hassle knew about it and they're blocking. Disgraceful. are a couple more quick things we'll get to the interview please spread this show around because spy gate stuff unfortunately but the new cycle we can't seem to break through we need it to break through. We needed to break through. This is only the most important story of our time. So Mark Meadows the president's current chief of staff former congressman from North Carolina an excellent man and a personal friend I might add. Mark Meadows knows what's up and he knows that GINA has spun others don't want you to see these notes indicating that this was president trump was framed and everybody knew it. There there's not a smoking gun again, this is a nuclear missile here. This is a MOAB, the mother of all bombs. They don't want this information out. President trump knows what it is. So does meadows here's Mark Meadows a brief. He's on Fox and friends, and he just casually drops this in that the president just recovered from. Koran. For virus or on the way to recovery I want to be precise I want to get ahead of myself. It's very important, but he's on the way to recovery. Thank the Lord. And one of the first things he tells meadows to do. is in get the stimulus, get all this other stuff because he understands the importance of what I'm telling you. The president knows exactly what's going on listen to what meadow says. It's one of the first things the president told the do check this out. Good Morning Nice to be with you obviously this is an day is the president continues to improve and is ready to get back to a normal work schedule. I eight thirty this morning, we've already had a couple of discussions on items that he wants to get done. Candidly is already tasks me with getting the declassification rolling. In in a follow up to. Requests that noon is that others? Interesting how we just slid that in there Seems almost inconsequential way he says it. Again tell me again how the president so stupid this is all GonNa get this all the time. He doesn't know what's going on. It's just. So over his head, he has understand the gravity of it. No, he understands exactly what's going on. Ladies and gentlemen the swamp is deep the deep state Israel again, read my new I this probably my last book I keep saying that, but it probably is I live right books when I feel like I, have some say. These people have been embedded like ticks for generations. You think this is going to be easy. The president knows exactly what's going on. We need those notes they spell out the whole conspiracy to defraud the FIS court and frame the president from the start and everybody listened to me when I tell you this everybody knows they're caught. That's why McCabe refused to testify up on capitol. Hill that's why Komi panic the other day and Capitol Hill said, he didn't know anything that's why hassles panicking doesn't want these notes declassified what the hell was the FBI doing in London in May of twenty sixteen when the president was framed and George Popadopoulos was used to do the framing. That is the key question right now. One more get onto my interview here. Folks forgive me for the show's going to be a little bit a kind of a jigsaw puzzle today. It's because we taped the interview a few days ago and if I can just be straight 'cause you're my audience and I and I, love y'all and I don't like spinning your wheels because of the gravity situation pollen is going through right now we were just going to run the interview today. We you know we thought it was. A great interview. I'm very proud of it at the macari disagreed job. we were just going to do that, but I'm i. felt like I owed you this. I really do I I. Love You guys and I formation asking out there. So what Kinda just sticking it ahead of the interview. was intended to be a standalone show as it runs, but I can't leave you spit it out there with despite its stuff it's not fair to the audience. Okay. One final cotton Emma move onto that odd the interview. The. Great. Devon. Newness. Who is just a terrific guy and he's done a great job. The country owes him data gratitude for exposing by gate scandal and not letting up. Devin Nunes was also on Maria Bartiromo show this was this about I think about a week ago or so and newness always lays out and sums up exactly what's going on I want you to listen to this because the congressman meadows it's the chief of staff as you just heard in that clip, he's okay. The president wants to push for this stuff to have newness is looking at. Well, let's have Denver newness himself what he's looking at check this out. Though essentially what you had is you had these six fantasies that were in these proto dossiers that then they hired the Russian spy in the British spy to make it look like it was real to cover up what the Clinton campaign was doing, and so now there's a bunch of underlying evidence that I've only seen a little bit of this week I think there's a lot more of it. I will also say this if you ask the other information that I, think we need to see. We need to see we had this FBI agent, the a three zero to came out about his recollection of everything that had happened so. The Russian spy that the Democrats hired that actually worked for a left wing. I'm called the Brookings Institute. We need to see he was interviewed three times. And in fact, he was even given supposedly he was given a get out of jail free card in because testified. Now, when he testified, he said, I, don't have anything at least. That's what we're being told by Horowitz and others. The American public needs to see. The three reports that we know about at least from the Democrats Russian spy that they hired. So that's additional documents that we need to see. Couple takeaways from their. Number One Nunez reiterates the teeth time that this was always fake. There was never any collusion it was never a shred of collusion. There's no hint of collision. This was always a teddy ruxton fairytale. You put a quarter in Christopher Steele back. He'd tell you what you want Hillary made the whole thing point number one. That's obvious. I think we've hammered that enough. Second That because the information was fake. Hillary Clinton's team needs to make it appear real for the media. So that's why Christopher Steele from the UK. Connection again. London connection again, that Christopher Steele who used to work the Russia desk for United Kingdom's intelligence services is the only reason Christopher Steele was hired. Third Takeaway Christopher Steele had one primary sub source and he used for information a guy by the name of Dan Tanko that worked at the Brookings Institute in the United. That was alleged to be a Russian spy alleged and to be a national security threat quote by the FBI. while. If he was feeding information steel and the information was all made up well, who made it up It's still make it up. Did Dan. Chanko make it up? Well, there's an interesting way to find that out. You could interview Denk Oh. Oh they already did the FBI three times. What exactly did then chant go tell them. The Dan Chango know that the Russians knew this was made up and with the Russians using this situation themselves. Think about the double and triple. Not Double Cross trip across quadruple cross, you could do on people here. If the Russians found out early, which it's highly likely and I'm hearing from highly credible sources that they did. That Hillary Clinton was going to make up a story totally make up a story about Donald trump colluding with the Russians, the impact, the election, what better way to so domestic domestic disturbance in the United States. then. To feed the United States into the United States Russian disinformation designed to advance that narrative knowing the Don's Hillary Clinton would use it. Talk about a double triple quadruple cross right there. The dench Anco know about that. What did DENCH ANCO? No did our agencies Intel agencies except excuse me intercept Russian information with the Russians talking about how Stupid Hillary Clinton and others were to create this narrative and how they would leverage it. Oh I think that maybe in some of those notes. Or those three, zero two from the FBI who interview. DENCH, ankle. Stay tuned folks. It's about the really Harry. All right. Thanks again, we can get to my interview here with macari from Breitbart News. He's one of their tech writers. He does a great job Breitbart has a terrific job over there. Alum wrote a book called defeated. Please listen to this interview. It is really eye opening about what the tech industry is doing a shut you down at censor your free speech and I'd like to add again my books out today really appreciate it. Sorry to keep mentioning but I put a lot of work into it. It's called follow the money. IT DISCUSSES THE GO. Thank you Paul as cover right there for those of you watching rumble. It's shocking deep state connections in the anti-trump Cabal and believe me they are shocking because some of the stuff you're gonNA reading this book I promise you not seeing anywhere else. It's about players the Obama fixer for. Other people behind the scenes you haven't heard the was connection and others that get lost in the shuffle of spy gate is one chapter in here on on the Obama fixer from ler that you've heard some of it the show before it's all in one spot I promise GonNa, blow your mind, check it out Velvet Amazon Barnes and noble bookstores everywhere. Today are stay tuned for my interview with Mr Allen Bakari from partners. I don't want to welcome the Dan Bongino show a very special guest Mr. Alum Bakari has a new book out called. Hashtag. Deleted big tax battle to erase the trump movement and steal the election. You never see that say the opposite by the way big tax battle against is just kind of weird how that always happens. Allen. Thanks for joining US really appreciate it. Hi, Dan Great to be on the shirts and ANA. So I I saw you on the Tucker Carlson show last week and you are incredible. You We're talking about your book again Hashtag deleted. Available. Now folks please check it out and you had mentioned. So many really wanted the interview to keep going on and on and on, but you know you only have a few short minutes. Now we're going to go on for about forty five minutes and you're gonNA. Let us know how badly social media and these big tech companies are to combat the Maga- movement with President Trump. So why don't we just start a simple question? Give us the big picture how exactly are these social media big tech companies? How exactly are they going after the president of Maggie Movement? Well I'm sure many of your listeners will be familiar with all the high profile bands of prominent conservatives. You know we've seen so many kicked off these platforms in the past four years. But what's more terrifying the stuff going on? Behind the scenes, the stuff that they don't want you to know about and I've spent the the past few years talking to whistleblowers inside the Silicon Valley companies inside big tech who has helped lift the lid on that and what they've really developed. It's quite terrifying. It's a way of almost turning down the volume on entire political movements just to explain briefly how. This system works of turning down the volume on political movements. So say you know a prominent conservative gets band and they have a million followers that's also their follow followers may not get banned, but it'll it'll affect them because one of the things one of the signals that these big tech companies look for when they're you know ranking or down ranking certain accounts as you know. Who are you following? Are you following the accounts known for posting hate speech or you follow me accounts known for posting misinformation or conspiracy theories or any of the other made up terms that they use to censor and punish the political right so that's really a formula just percents for one or two people but for entire censoring entire political movements and he can't really tell it's happening. Because what happens when you make post on facebook or twitter is that post has given a ranking it's given a score by the companies, and that score determines going to show up at the top of people speeds or if it's going to be buried where no one will see it, and that affects absolutely everyone it's being done by algorithms. So there's no escape from it if you're talking manner that similar to what they call trolls or misinformed. So people will purveyors of hate speech you're going to be downgraded. You're going to go down in the rankings and you will not be able to go by gain momentum in the same way that a left-wing common data might. So the playing field is totally tilted, but it's tilted for everyone. Not just one or two people who get band. So. If you're say this is what I always found out about this. If you're saying left-winger some radical leftists and you're following, say Adam Goldman from the New York Times who's been a Propagandist for the collusion hoax forever. I'll debunk conspiracy. Theory. Your insiders telling you that those people are getting down rank to or is this almost exclusively conservative phenomenon where they call things conspiracy theories that are like, say the spy gate scandal which was real. That's a great question. I'll tell you what one of my facebook sources told me about these efforts against so-called misinformation, which by the way they conveniently sprang up right after president trump got elected. So apparently misinformation on social media platforms was totally fine for both times of president. Obama. But as soon as trump wins suddenly misinformation and fake news is a really big problem that they have to address right now. And what my facebook told me was, of course I mean you can almost guest this the people who pushed hardest for these efforts to fight. So called fake news and so-called misinformation was the most anti-trump people at these companies and these are the people who then join those initiatives and led them and are essentially now in charge of determining what counters misinformation, what counts as a conspiracy theory and what doesn't, and that's why you don't see people like Rachel Maddow who for the last three years has been saying Vladimir Putin is black. Man. Donald Trump. You didn't get her tags a conspiracy theorist. But perfectly reasonable solid right wing theories like spy gate than you've covered extensively they do get tackled conspiracy theories and by the way because this'll be interesting to you and your listeners because you've covered spy gate. So closely, many of the people in charge of these. So called anti disinformation campaigns from the national security state there from the deep state So for example, General Stanley McChrystal is involved with a really advanced program to use AI to tackle so-called Russian disinformation campaigns, and We found someone at facebook. One of the so-called misinformation managers and by the way this. Height what the deep state has become on the one hand linked in profile said. SHOULD BE THE CIA for ten years including on all of Jon Benet Jon Renan's time times director and she also had a huge black lives matter banner. At the top of a profile so it's it's the it's just a deep. Deep State. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. They leave their politics outside the office I'm absolutely sure. Obviously being sarcastic here you just said something to Pique my interest game we're talking Allen Bakari author of the Great New Book Hashtag deleted big tax battle to erase the trump movement and steal the election a terrifying title terrifying commentary, and we're only six minutes in. So Stanley McChrystal I've been following this story pretty intensely been following the work of Julie, Kelley Michael Anton and others who have been writing about the Democrats plan the radical less plan post-election if Joe Biden doesn't win. You which would leave. Obviously in a equation trump the winner. For Basically Aku after the election, most of its their words to now mine, they're planning for a street fight, not illegal one and other things. But I've been following the transition integrity project and defeat disinformation, which is a group Stanley. McChrystal who you just mentioned has been consulting with what I find odd alum is using some of the same techniques these. Military and intelligence officials like the one you just cited working in the intelligence community some of the same techniques to combat president trump that they use overseas to foment revolutions in foreign countries. These color revolutions I mean this sounds unbelievably anti-american and possibly a touch of treason and this thing I mean trying to take out leaders using insurgency tactics meant for overseas. Yeah I almost regret using the title of my book that I did because I just considered in the past few weeks even better title might have been the digital coup because that's what we're seeing. We're seeing these platforms weaponized unseat president by the same people who are mobilizing the judiciary mobilize in the deep state move mobilizing every other resource they can unseat this president by democratic means or not. and. Most of the sources I, I interviewed in my book off from Silicon Valley that from big tech but I did it view one source from inside the government who's followed all this stuff very closely he supports the president's agenda by the way is not part of the deep state, but he observes the closely and he he summed it up very Very eloquently. I thought he said that under President Obama. America actually pushed the ideal of Internet freedom of the free and open Internet. Because under Obama, it was very useful to them overseas in places like Egypt in places like Syria, on all these all the regimes that they wanted to destabilise day promoted Internet freedom that because it allowed there American. Funded activists to create instability. In, these in these regimes they were targeting. So they saw Internet freedom as a tool of regime change broad This is what my source said. So what I'm saying but then my source said when Donald Trump one when we saw the rise of Brexit, they suddenly realized Oh no, the same technologies, the same thing Internet, freedom it can be used to regime change the western elites, the western foreign policy elites, and we can't have that and that's when you saw everyone turning against Internet freedom here in America. That's when you saw these so-called called anti disinformation projects, spring up. Yeah by the way, the digital coup given the success of Hashtag deleted I know is going to blow up after this and other terrific interviews you've done there's your sequel. You don't even have to think of a new title digital coup folks get ready for Baier's book now but getting ready for the digital Hashtag digital coup there's this equal for that. So Ranjit, regards to this the Obama Administration Fascination with social media and others. You know I remember specifically listening to C. Span after the Obama. Election where he where he won reelection excuse me and I don't know if it was Jim Messina or who it was, but it was a higher up on the campaign and they were talking about how they had used facebook tools, their dashboard they had gone behind the scenes to micro target voters to get out the vote to promote messaging campaigns. Basically, the same kind of thing Cambridge Analytica was accused of doing for the trump team, but it only became a scandal when trump did it I mean I'm sure you can elaborate on that a bit but don't you find that it's only troublesome when Republicans learn how to use technology to. Aunt you know if you give me one minute going to find the name of us sort of Obama campaign almost whistle blower who told us more about that? I want. All right. So we got this story in two thousand Eighteen Obama campaign stuff says, facebook allowed them to harvest masses of data. So this this person's called Carol Davidson and she was like one of the people in Obama's digital campaign and She said that facebook allowed and this is this is far beyond Cambridge analytic allow them to access the entire social graph of facebook and what the social group is. It's not just like the facebook users sign up to particular abbots ball of their friends as well. So almost every. Every American. Used facebook and twenty twelve. They had their data harvested by the Obama campaign and facebook actually helped them. Do it the Davidson said the even? Came to the officers after the election and said they allowed the campaign to get away with things. They wouldn't have allowed all the people to get away with because they were on Obama's side that's massive massive story and completely ignored by the mainstream media that was instead completely focused on Cambridge analytics was basically doing a smaller scale version of what Obama was in two thousand twelve. I mean and not that I don't WanNa get sidetracked with the media star I want to stay focused on your book for obvious reasons is a great piece of work. But there is a media story here to how again these things are only scandals when Republicans do them I mean we can start looking at the black lives matter rallies obviously, viruses don't know the difference between a rally inauguration speech or anything else the black lives matter rally. So the story was totally ignored that these could be viral super spreader events nobody touched it matter. Of fact, in New York City, you were banned from even asking about it if you were a health professional in some respects. But then again, when the Republicans held events at airports and open air for president trump, it became a big huge scandal. But you see this as well with social media I'm telling you. I. Heard that I know I heard that C. Span speech where they were openly bragging how smart they were. FACEBOOK had access to the dashboard voter turnout like four, and then again trump does it on a milder level and next thing you know it's an international scandal and the media plays right along and if it isn't for guys like you, we would never even know about any of. There's a whole chapter in my book about the post-election panic that was driven in large part by the media, which actually invented this term fake news that we had never heard of before as a way to demonize conservative media, of course, trump and their cleverly took the phrase instead of using it against them. They weren't expecting less but. It was a total panic and that target was from the beginning facebook. It was it was against social networks they wanted them to exercise more censorship. That's where the pressure was was focused on one of the things my book does it compares the Post. The Post Twenty twelve headlines to the post two, thousand sixteen headlines about facebook and one of the post. Twenty twelve headlights I'm not making this up as Obama facebook and the power of friendship. And and it's all about how how Obama used facebook to help himself to to help them win the White House. But of course, off the trump wins, it's all about how facebook has allowed disinformation hyper partisanship and fake news and how long so Quebec needs to take responsibility In fact, Mark Zuckerberg initially thought you know this is just a momentary panic that would just blow over. He said now, of course they used didn't help swing the election trump, but eventually, the pressure was so great from the media but also from pressure groups like media matters that he had to cave-in. Yeah Yeah. Media matters the you know the bunch of basement-dwelling s'mores rosters in their mommies basements that sit there all day and follow my sure. They are the most pathetic group bathroom must but that's a whole different story. You don't have to come in on that. But one thing before we take a quick break here, we're talking again Allen Bakari author, the Great, book Hashtag deleted big tax battle to erase the trump movement steal the election a a real must read right now. You're right there the magic of trump in many respects people forget that that term fake news was meant to attack trump in other words that the Russians and others were planting fake news stories to help trump get elected donald trump do the magic of his showmanship and his ability to flip a narrative turned around and made fake news about CNN which is where which is what everybody really associated with now, which is really just marketing power of a guy who's not from politics but was just a great marketing we're talking again. Allen. Bakari we will be right back in the other side of break met his new book. Hashtag. Deleted Social Media Big Tech folks this is a listen to show. Please spread it around. We'll be right back. 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You were talking about artificial intelligence, the use of it by big tack to align their goals with critical race theory in other words, white privilege, white people you're inherently racist which is racist in and of itself tell everybody that term why we need to. Know about it and I got scared the hell out of me. So the floor is yours will machine learning. fannous is the term invented by big tech and academia to describe an attempt to merge the fields of computer science with critical race theory with fall after feminism with every kind of woke academic field you can imagine, of course, these feels based on pule myths and fantasies but they WanNa do is embed those myths and fantasies those assumptions into computer science. And here's why that's so dangerous. An Algorithm. At its core is basically just a a machine recognizing patterns and spitting out conclusions right I would actually say algorithms on their own if you had a it if imagine like a truly unbiased algorithm that just looks at patterns in data and conclusions, I think that would be a very right wing algorithm because if you just look. Dispassionately at data and look at patterns, you often find very politically incorrect conclusions about things like you know Islamic terrorism, well crime or you know. Women in the workforce, the facts don't support the left on so many important political questions. So that's why they're so determined to make sure that they control the most influential algorithms in the world the ones in Silicon Valley, they want to embed their own factual assumptions into them so that they end up reinforcing left with narratives and not challenging, and that's why they prayed and machine learning fans. And to break down even further and some concrete examples, these are the algorithm that will be deciding what counts us hate speech what counts as fake news they'll be deciding whose political movement has allowed to gain momentum and WHO's isn't They'll even decide You know whose businesses are successful because algorithms all determined who for example, appears on the front page of Google, which is critical for the success of many businesses now. the algorithm will determine almost everything. We can imagine they'll pick winners and losers across every. At sorry across every level of society from politics to business and the people in charge of them. The people with the thumbs on the scale of the most powerful technology technologies ever created their crazy critical race theories people who believe in. The conclusions of Gender Studies the most insane racist people you can imagine who are totally indoctrinated who are totally ideologically blinkered. They're the ones running the show. This has profound consequences, not just for politics and society and political discourse here in America but also all around the world you have to remember. Platforms like facebook and Google on just dominant in America that dominant in places like Britain like Italy France Germany that dominant in Brazil, that dominant in so many places. So we've somehow arrived arrived in a situation where a handful of critical race theorists in San Francisco Bay area have the thumbs on the scale of democracy not just here but all around the world get to pick which political movements get to be successful and which ones are going to fail. and that's I I've never I've never heard of N- I'm a student of history a huge history now I've never I've seen a similar example history where sue much power political discourse and the outcome of elections has fallen into the hands of so few people and what a group of people. These are the most insane people you can imagine if they have the most totalitarian view of politics even think of. Completely intolerant completely racist. As you mentioned they're they're running the show they're running the technologies that will control our world. I mean, this is really terrifying. Turn my head my TV on you didn't hear that. Did you Paula coming away see alum was worried during the break he's like my life to look down on my phone like you do whatever brother to Dan Bongino show there's no rules. Yes. Dear old school. Wrestling on Saturday morning. That's what we there's no fourth wall here. We talked that we do everything and talk about everything we want. Let me did this scares me obviously and again folks full disclosure as many of you know. A part owner of both parlour and rumble alternatives these big tech companies I should put out there earlier but you know many of you listen to my show already know that. But. This hate speech I'm using the dreaded air quotes, their concerns me and it sounds like it deeply concerns you. Have a whole section in your book on it. So this I hate speech thing you mentioned with machine learning fairness and the ability to detect. Dreaded air quotes hate speech here is really disturbing. Examples, wrong. Stopped me and correct me but let's just say throw it out there. You're on facebook or twitter three, four, five years in the. And this machine learning fairness gets implemented and say you put up a facebook post. It says something like listen the wage gap between men and women is not seventy cents to the dollar. When you factor in other factors air, it's actually just four or five cents or less. That's a myth. Can you be banned from facebook? I mean you're going to be you're going to be fact checked I mean. What happens am I mean I'm not asking you to be the stingy in witches from clash of the titans have predicted future where are they going with this? So they're going to ban you take the post down a disclaimer on it. Will I would argue that the technology to do that is already in place There's a whole chapter in my book chapter six about how these machine learning systems already running and operational. In fact, if you go through a youtube transparency reports on censorship or they didn't call it censorship, they call it in enforcing community guidelines. But if gives through that transparency reports, you'll say the vast majority of the videos they take down that they remove. These days is done by machines if not done by humans. So these algorithms already very much in place in this scanning absolutely everything I wanna be I wanna be clear absolutely everything you post on the Internet whether it's own one of these platforms whether you're creating a website. Is going to be assigned a numerical value by the tech giant's so say you create a website Google is going to give that website and you medical value to determine its so-called quality and the way the so called Quality Score, they call it a quality school. Used to be time. Well, you know does the website have spam? Is it relevant the search does contain malware on safe software? Those are the sort of pretty objective measures that used to us but now, of course. Added into those quality schools things like does it contain hate speech does it contain misinformation doesn't contain fake news and those new criteria only expanding so that that will come a point I think where statements like the one you mentioned if not send it all together going to be severely down ranked in search engines when no one can find them and equally. So in on on people's facebook feeds and twitter feeds and instagram. and. We're actually seeing conservative getting banned from social media just posting facts I think it was andy. No a while back earlier this. Yeah. Got Locked out of just for repeating FBI crime statistics yeah. I remember that yeah we've seen some of this over rumble where I'm a part owner of the company rumble is a bit more than viable competitor. Youtube way before I got involved but there's a little trick we like to talk about it rumble when we talk about how Youtube. Owned by Google, how they prevent competitors from even being seen if you actually go to google and Google rumbled dot com dog videos, you know what? The first pages of searches come up with youtube videos no right. Meanwhile, rubble DOT COM DOT TR. If you think I'm messing with you folks try this. This is how this works. You can't find a rumble video even when you put it rumbled dot com dog videos put in rumble dot, com Dan, Bongino, watch what happens you'll get all the youtube videos I. So it is scary but just getting into youtube for a minute. I've had experience with this. I have an account with Youtube. It's relatively successful. The show does well does better on rumble now thankfully. But we've seen this over and over with de-modernisation and people pressuring Youtube and Google to just basically white people claim we saw with the infamous incident with Steven crowder and Carlos Mazza who had some personal beef Mazza went on this twitter tirade and basically got Steven crowder for a time a conservative. Commentator got his account almost fully de monetize so we could make any money on youtube. This is really frightening stuff as well. It certainly is this is the financial element of all this censorship. At the same time that. People's businesses more livelihoods is moving online increasingly difficult for example, to set up a successful publishing operation without having a facebook presence, for example, and there are some people who earn their entire life behind just from facebook just from from the social media platforms. At the same time that that huge historical change is happening that'd be no protections put in place for anyone using these platforms it's always boggled my mind that you could run a a hotdog stand that rents rents out a corner of a parking lot and the owner of that parking lot would still most likely have to get a court order before they could've Iq- even if you'd legitimately done something wrong, they couldn't just Vicki because they didn't like the the slogan on your hat or your political beliefs or things like that. That are very strict rules about how when you can affect someone. But you own a million dollar facebook page, a million dol-, a youtube account a million dollar instagram account, and you have absolutely no recourse in the courts the virtually impossible to take these companies to court. Even if they've wrongfully terminated counted, harmed your livelihood in fact, the example cited in my book and the chapter on Facebook where entire businesses have gone bust because of an algorithm changed by facebook, they literally push a button in silicon. Valley? and. Suddenly, a hundred people lose their jobs. That's exactly what happened to to a website I. Talk About in in the chapter on facebook was cooled little things and it wasn't even a political website. It was just a harmless viral website that posted stories about cute cats and dogs and things of that nature facebook changed their algorithm boom bust one, hundred employees gone That's that's an insane situation for businesses to be informed consumers to be in. And it's a real failure on the part of policymakers that they haven't. Stepped in to protect people from this because a cousin no other industry. No it is troubling I agree I mean Allen West. Dot Com. The former congressman had a website obviously upon him ASLI named Allen West Dot Com, and they were great. They were one of the. One of the highlights of the conservative early Internet movement they're getting out there, and then all of a sudden facebook changed the algorithm boom I mean crush the website overnight. Now I've got some personal experience with this. Our facebook page is you go to facebook top ten it's twitter account. They use crowd tangle to determine the most popular posts that day. Me and Ben Shapiro the hajj twins David Harrison others frequently appear on that top ten. Thanks to our terrific audience. and. All of that facebook top ten account is managed by the way by a guy who just doesn't really like conservatives and his whole agenda is to show how conservatives are somehow like manipulating facebook. I don't know how we're doing that because the rules change constantly on facebook and we don't even know what to manipulable. I was put up clips for my show which people like. But that goes to show you. One of the focuses of your book is the media pressure campaign that the media really doesn't like competition for content, they need the game rigged. It's amazing to me that conservative media is doing as well as it is on facebook and despite the censorship despite the constant algorithm manipulation, I mean Breitbart news how to CPA, viral video taken down Walla back So many other examples. The whole twins you mentioned they almost had their count shock down a while ago and this in the top conservative influences on facebook. BREITBART news twinsies these small entities and then the people who've been banned altogether Laura, Luma Paul Joseph Watson, Alex Jones you may disagree with them, they get to these was some Donald Trump's biggest supporters had huge huge followings. So the fact that conservative media is still succeeding on facebook despite all of this just makes you think how much momentum they've actually taken away from the conservative movement if they had allowed all those all the people to remain on the platform. The left would barely exist they can't even they cannot compete on an even playing field. They can't even compete when the game is rigged against conservatives as it is today. So they still complain that facebook is somehow favoring the right even though they've banned some of the the rights biggest influences it's insane. I got a call the other day from A. Writer politico. And he was asking me, you know what? The macguffin is what the secret sauce for my facebook page. Why are you guys always in the top ten and I said to him I don't I don't think you get this and I wasn't trying he was actually a very nice guy. Don't know what his vizier is biased or not. I really don't care I. Don't do a lot of interviews, but he seemed genuine and his in his in his curiosity. And I said the fact that you're asking that question shows you don't get it. There is no macguffin. There is a conservative content creator me I say things on a podcast, a podcast popular we're number two behind Ben Shapiro. I'm not patting myself telling you the numbers, people like the content. So the fact that they like it on facebook is not a macguffin. De Pretty by that you get what I'm saying he can't believe it because he may have had a biased obviously and he's like no way you guys are crazy. This is impossible. People could like you got to be a macguffin. What are you doing? The game must be rigged somehow because people don't like what they're selling. It's the same with all these Hollywood movies that that fail, and then then the direction in the movies turning around and call everyone big it's. Getting to see that movie. It's exactly the same thing. I mean, also you have to remember like how much advantages these tech companies are giving mainstream media that completely not just the the rigging, the game favor of conservative, their rigging, the game, the other there was a story, just the the other day Google's going to put one billion dollars into funding Mesnier Organizations the next few years a billion dollars in matching that. I worked for Breitbart News. I I'm not privy to their to their financials, but I'm pretty sure we don't have a billion dollars. Like these companies given so many advantages by the tech companies and they're still struggling to compete with conservative media. Just imagine if they didn't have all those advantages that'd be that'd be that'd be gone. Are. We're going to take a quick break. We're talking author Alan Bakari wrote the terrific new book a real muster for this cycle folks Hashtag deleted big tax battle to erase the trump movement and steal the election certainly a book for The Times Right now, read it now before the election so you know what's going on. We'll be right back. Thanks for Tuning in my interview with Alan Bakari. Author of the book defeated I really appreciate it. We the sponsor day our friends at brickhouse. Nutrition Ladies and gentlemen the pandemic didn't just tell us our country's economic endurance it really exposed now living an unhealthy lifestyle can expose you to. That's why I recommend a US feel the Greens by brickhouse nutrition every single day. While other health products boast about having one vegetable field degrees is packed with twelve clinically researched delicious essential clean fruits and vegetables, plus Green Tea Ginger Turmeric Beats. This powerful combination only supports heart health. 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Look at podcasting the number one podcast out. NPR. Of The New York Times. I'm not saying ideologically good I, want my audience, but you know what my politics are. Let's leave that out but the content they produce there's clearly appealing it's on demand you have to go to apple podcasts and play. It's not like on the radio dial and you just tune in you have to get it and go wanted. So they can do well when they produce things, people seem to want again NPR, New York Times being an example so I, just don't get. I mean, this is kind of like whiny I'm taking my toys and leaving the sandbox stuff isn't it? Yeah, absolutely, I didn't understand that facebook is actually quite a conservative. Platform. The people on facebook tend to you know have be slightly older than that people on say twitter, instagram they tend to have more conservative you. So it's not surprising to me that conservative media is succeeding there. I think. That basic seeding even more. It wasn't the censorship in the people getting band and covertly suppressed. You know I also want to bring up briefly another platform that's in the news recently on isn't covered in my book. There's very new issue, but I think it's very important tiktok. So the the Chinese own social media platform is was on the verge of being banned altogether from the from the United States by president trump because he didn't want the Chinese Communist regime stealing everyone's data especially in the days of young people, he used a platform. perfectly reasonable. But what what concerns me was the fact that the administration did not impose any sort of free speech requirement on the deal. So they didn't tell Oracle Microsoft or any of the other companies bidding for Tiktok that you're. GonNa have to make a legally binding commitment to allow us to opt out of the filtering of Of political speech if they want to so I think more could be done to pressure these companies by the administration. But at the at the same time, the administration has been making huge strides. Recently, I want to be balanced in the story hand get your listeners the full picture. I do think Internet freedom is on the ballot in November because the trump administration is than they've nominated a new FCC commissioner who will who's very good in the question of Social Media Censorship They've got an official at the MTA who's moving forward on Donald Trump's executive order designed to tackle social media censorship and that guy's also very good. He's actually sued twitter in the past over free speech names added Candidate Ebb. So the movement is final that from administration, sorry is finally starting to get moving on this issue. They could potentially rain in the tech giant's if they're allowed a second time but I think this is this is the last chance because if Joe Biden gets in, he's going to weaponize the federal government and pressure these companies to sense even more. So I think that's something to consider as we move towards November that Internet freedom is going to be on the ballot. There's there's probably more the trump administration could be doing especially around deals like the tiktok much. Make no mistake. The. By did, ministration would be a disaster for Internet free speech. Preaching to the choir that one. Let me ask you something about your book is extensively sourced insiders in the big tech community. This is a question I've had for a long time and maybe you can kind of be a lighthouse in the fog here. I don't get facebook at all I understand how works obviously my pages very popular. Thanks to a terrific audience I get how to use facebook but I don't get facebook and here's what I mean. You know listen I'm an open book to my audience. My facebook page earns a lot of money a lot like a ridiculous amount of money. facebook takes a good chunk of that. So, if we're one of their top revenue generators, I mean a basically seven-figure account for them. Why the hell would you constantly attacking these people? It's almost like you have this business that sells with Jit's your biggest consumer buys millions of dollars in widgets every year and one day you find out he voted for someone intellectually like like, Hey, hey, beat it. No widgets me go support my widget competitor instead you'd scratch your head like is this guy really that stupid so my question was this facebook get this are they really this dumb that they're going to go down this route road excuse me and purge the Conservatives Hodge twins, me Ben Shapiro who generating lots of money for them and a lot of attention as well. I honestly think that these companies have in some ways become so powerful and so market dominating they have no serious competition and so wealthy that. It's no longer in their own best interest meet a wealthy and powerful because they're they're going to undermine the success of that front is going to undermine what's popular Again to go back to the media's involvement here one of the stories we broke Bright Mount News. A couple of years ago was how the top ten results when you such for abortion on Youtube quite a few of them from conservative creators like Like Ben, Shapiro, like like sight news. Sources like that. But what happened was journalist from slate went and complained to Google said look what happens when you search for abortion it's all these pro-life videos Those are the most popular videos on the search, but within hours of journalists connecting Google that added the third into a file and this is not my what for the. For the Father Youtube Controversial Query blacklist, they call it a blacklist. And when they added the time that file. All of those pro-life videos left the top ten replaced by a beat the BBC, buzzfeed Vice News you know the usual suspects. So they will for political reasons they will actually undermine their most popular content. The content that people want to watch the pub to the people want to read. In. Order to appease ideologically motivated people inside their own companies, pressure groups from outside, and of course, the mainstream media. This is insane. I mean this is you know CNN was once the dominant player in Cable News as well and I'll never forget that was a secret service agent at the time and at a graduation ceremony. Since past Roger Ailes he spoke there he had known someone and they asked him to come in and speak at the ceremonies was years ago when Fox was just gathering momentum and he said something I, never forgot it was beautiful in its simplicity someone asked him. You know what was the genius behind the thinking when you guys created Fox News and he said we had this bold idea to appeal to a small sliver of America called fifty one percent of America. In other words like fifty, one percent of America roughly wants fair and balanced and nobody thought to do a fair and balanced news network. That's why I disagree with you a little bit that there isn't competition granted. It gives me you know I have a vested interest in saying otherwise, but I believe it's going to be a slow burn. It's not going to be easy. These are almost monopolistic players now I agree with you there but I think that that fifty one percent of people who really get pissed off about you know tech censorship they're gonNA figure it out eventually they get more tech savvy that there are alternatives. There's obviously there's parlor there's a duck duck. Oh, there's rumble you have an interest in those two. and. This whole idea once a viable competitor starts to appear all these cutesy ideas like all. Let's do a woke boardroom and let's suppress abortion videos aren't as appetizing. Anymore I mean I'll give you an example right now we'll get the spotify situation with Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan one, hundred, million dollar deal to get an exclusive on his videos on spotify Joe. Rogan is the most popular podcast or probably in the world and spotify employees are basically nuclear bombing the company saying if we can't sanction stuff that's it. We're WE'RE GONNA strike, and basically destroy this whole deal. Insane. It's insane and No I, I, it's to support competitors no doubt and rumbles doing amazing. Polar is doing very well I to entity with the policy coming up the next few weeks actually but It's tough. It's very tough. It's very tough competitors because these silicon valley giants who dominate the place they almost work together to shot out the competition. One of the examples I side at the very start of my book I I try and get readers to imagine what would we like to face this kind of censorship in one thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, eight. So just rub typewriters stop in working and saying you bad from using the typewriter using hate speech about meeting the phones the new stance abandoned Banda newspapers of for too much fake news and also. The the meetings the mailing service refusing to carry hate speech, and if he'd finds it up competing mailing service, they bound you from the roads and this is what's happening what's happening to competitors on social media the so-called roads that get competing products to consume the smartphones. smartphones are controlled by apple and Google Ninety nine percent of all smartphone operating services worldwide Apple Google. And again, and again, we've seen them BAN APPS that simply offer you know I a first, amendment social network both APP stores band gap Dot Com for example, the competitor to the to the social networks and I believe I believe thrown right off. Yep and I believe God forbid shoot as well. We both hosting providers you know the people who give you who you space to host the web seventy host, your website DNS provider data services that give me your web address. Url. They've kicked people off a so-called hate speech as well. So it's re I'm not saying competition is impossible. It's just extremely topped an uphill battle. We definitely support competitors, but we should also support I. Think. Just some. Some basic consumer and business. fantas. Protections. To be imposed on these companies blatant interference with the competition blatant election interference as well at all these things are areas where I think Congress and the Federal Government more than justified in regulating. Folks we're GONNA. Take One more final break. We're talking to the author of a terrific New Book Mr Alleman Corey author of Hashtag deleted big tax battle to erase the trump movement steal the election critical read at this time, we'll be right back. Has always laid in gentleman. I appreciate your patience I hope you're enjoying this interview. Mr. Allen Bakari I certainly am. We have our last sponsor. Our good friends at Patriot mobile left US corporations verizon have empowered radicals to tear our country apart and fund their efforts most recently sending ten million al sharp than others. You know that started with impeachment removed onto exploiting the pandemic and then they followed it with violent riots. Now, they're threatening violence over the Supreme Court seat. Outrageous. Patriot mobile shares, your values, my values, and they won't send your hard earned money to aid in the destruction of America or fun. 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You know Alan before the break before I had a swat that fly for those watching a video. If you want to see my moves about six minutes ago with cat like precision, I swatted a fly right in front of the screen. So check it out rumble dot com slash Bongino a competitor youtube by the let me ask you this. This worries me because what you said before is absolutely correct as an owner of two of these companies they are choke points everywhere that until you get on the ownership side of competitors to twitter and facebook and Youtube, you don't see the road blocks. One of them's the APP store. There's always a threat and the apple APP store the Google APP store. You know that if you don't do something that they like and you're a conservative leaning company, whatever it may be, which we're not, we're free speech company that they'll throw you off. There's also the threat like you said, server farms toss new off making you find a new server company. So my question is. Do you think the solution along with basic consumer fairness laws which I agree with I'm with you on that but you think the solution is well me and you obviously being free marketeers is listen we're just gonNA have to rewrite a conservative economy financial processing companies for credit cards, conservative server farms, and I don't mean me because I should say free speech conservative farms but building a whole infrastructure so that there is an alternative economy I've been recommending this for years because then we won't have to worry. I think there should definitely be competition, but I didn't think it should just be competition. I. Think they should also be some common sense rule change in regulations to go along with that. You know I I know there's regulations kind of debt he would. But some sometimes you need it keeping mind was Republicans, a Republican Teddy Roosevelt could the the big oil companies under control in America, and the big railroad companies under control at the a ton of the nineteenth century So. You know it's it's it's been the case before that. CO private corporations have become so large and so powerful. They pose a threat to freedom independently of the government and government has enacted to check that power. That's perfectly in line with Teddy. Roosevelt did It's probably my with what happened to to me and the in the postwar period because it was just a monopoly that dominated the competition. Here's my fear and I didn't. I didn't realize this again until I got on the management ownership side. We don't have at Parlor obviously, the assets does and a full staff legal department can fight legal fights all day we're okay we're doing. All right, but we just don't. It's twitter's a twenty plus. Market Cap. Company. So. What what I worry about is this competition does emerge obviously have GAB. Yeah. Parlor you have other outfits to it's not just us. We're happy to do their other people out there. Is. Say. You Change Section Two thirty which would redefine some of these places if they engage editor realizing as publishers rather than platforms to get too deep in the weeds but we run into a problem to there and the problem is this. Let's say on parlor new have post. It's obviously sensitive. Say It's God forbid the murder of police officer some imagery we don't want to ban that that's not what we do but we realized that you probably just don't want it to scroll automatically. On, the platform so you may want to put a little sensitive content thing. The problem we have alum playing devil's advocate. because. A lot of expertise in this. Is then we could potentially be sued by putting a sensitive label for editorializing on that content when really in reality which just engaging in kind of basic consumer protections banning anything we just want people to be worn and we don't have the legal staff there. To fight backwards twitter does and I think that's why these platforms aren't fighting vigorously against two-thirty changes. As you think, they are I think some of them are welcoming it 'cause they'd be like, Hey, screwing we can fight these legal battles all day and all these other little. Ankle biter companies trying to creep up on us they'd be out of business. You hit the nail on the head that the danger with regulation always is that it'll the whole process will be controlled by special interests that will use it to a shout the competition. Even further we have to be really capital with section two, thousand reform I support some section to thirty report reform but I'm very much opposed to others I know that A. Lot of it is driven by lobbyists in the big entertainment companies who want to be able to sue social networks and the people who will be hot hottest by that will be a smaller social network. So we have to be very careful about we demand somebody will say Hashtag abolish section to thirty. No, no no, we need to reform it sensibly at Catholic. So as to how the competition so Josh holy has a good work around for this his section tooth that he bill only applies to companies that are of a very high market cap sewed. So the performance would not apply to to rumble two Paul to any of the smaller competitors. That's a good A good formula that I think can be used for all kinds of regulations only apply them to the dominant players only applied in the company's over a certain market cap, but what you mentioned filtering obscene content. I'm not opposed to filtering obscene content but. One of the things I would like to see his policy section to thirty reform suggestions because like you said, some of them have just being silly some of them have suggested creating a body in the federal government that will determine what what is and what is neutral, what is and what isn't politically neutral that that's that's so pms. Let's let's be fair about that. But a very simple thing that could be done is clearly define what is a platform and what isn't, and I think one of the most obvious things it's been obvious to me for a while that they can put in that is that platforms are allowed to create filters on constitutionally protected speech, but this filth has have to opt out. and. and if you don't make them opt out if you don't make an optional to the USA. And then you know the platform anymore, you can be sued so. This is not a particularly onerous regulation in my view because tech companies have had this technology for Since forever every time you go on Google search, you'll see the little button in the top corner safe such. You turn that button on and you won't see any obscene such results. That's perfectly fine. No one's opposed to them, but the US can decide whether to turn it on or off. That is critical. They haven't given us as that option when it comes to things like hate speech and fake news and misinformation even though they could. Because ultimately, they care more about controlling political discourse right now, they can't more about censoring the trump movement than they do about giving true choice to consumers and I think that has to be part of the definition of a platform. You're a platform if you give us the ability to opt out of your filters. I think that's The that's the process spectacular and can I I'm sorry I tried not to interrupt. This is such a good idea. I don't want to lose his point because we've had a problem again on Parlor speaking from personal experience where people understanding the whole aversion in the United States towards legitimate hate speech I mean you know what it is when you see it, you know, Neo Nazi stuff racist you. Get it. It's obvious. Right we've had a problem with is liberals taking advantage of our natural aversion to that. In this great country who come over to parlor, they set up fake accounts they literally put up swastikas. Iron Cross all kinds of Nazi symbols, their fake accounts, and they'll say they'll open account and then they'll send the link to someone in the liberal media. Go look look this is a neo Nazi website we're like we can't clean this stuff off fast enough. So I like your idea of letting the user, do that themselves like let them filter this because we can't. We just don't have enough people to we got crushed when when parlor got a head esteem with fake accounts from. Some of the same Ip's setting up like Hitler's cousin Joey Hitler Donnie Hitler Tony Hitler, and we're like holy, Moses this it was fake all of it was fake and it really upset us but I gotta run I. Just want to ask you a question because it's been a spectacular interview. Your insight here is amazing again, Allen Bakari author of Hashtag deleted pick it up today big tax battle to a race to trump movement and steal the election Amazon Barnes and Noble Bookstores Everywhere Do you see as I interviewed president trump not that long ago on the show do you see the likelihood? Let's say he wins reelection. Do you see any likelihood of twitter or facebook knowing that he's leverage those platforms and fair and honest way anyone else could but he was just good at it. Do you see any likelihood that they banned him from these platforms altogether. It president from wins situation will improve dramatically I I don't think the problem of censorship will go away altogether but I think it will improve over the past six months. The trump administration has been making some really impressive staffing changes. Some really impressive appointments people who really understand the section two-thirty issue understand Internet freedom people like Adam candidate but anyway, I mentioned him he actually agrees with me about Use a filter and use a control filtering. So that's that was great to hear. I asked him that recent press conference the at new FCC appointee Nathan. SYMINGTON also I know little about him but I i. He's very good in the issue of social. Media. Censorship is certainly better than the The Person He replaced Michael O'Reilly. If he gets confirmed that'll be excellent news. I. Think Tech companies will see the way things are going in the trump administration. They'll see that they won't be able to get away with this stuff so easily anymore and they will act accordingly. I made that prediction but. We'll certainly see progress on this issue rapid progress I think and we certainly de. Optimism. I mean, seriously, this has been an ongoing fight with me is an activist in as again a business business associations some of these companies. It's good to hear that optimism in your voice that this could we could finally turn the turn this ship around. Folks listen that gives you to call to action at the end of the show urologist said. So you'd better go out and vote my words get out there and vote because if we get Joe Biden there, you're gonna see a an ongoing disaster and action I remember to go pick out on McCurry's terrific new book again Hashtag deleted big tax battle to erase the trump movement steal the election we'll put a link to it. In. The show notes a Paulo as you think of that, I, I'm sorry before you guys probably getting ahead on that's I. had my wife likes it. It's good. It's not only good if she's doing the double header, not it's really good 'cause she's a tech person or all Bakari thank you so much for joining us. We hope your book sells off the shelves and you got to print six seven more times. Thanks again. Thanks Don it's great to be on. You just heard Dan Bongino.

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#EERS S9 Ep176: The Veep Debate

The Erick Erickson Show

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#EERS S9 Ep176: The Veep Debate

"Hello and welcome. It is Eric Erickson here the year Eric Sensual across the state of Georgia. Well, we actually had a actual debate last night well as far as those sorts of debates go welcome there is some big news this morning you do need to know about the presidential debate commission announced that they decided they were GonNa, do a remote. Remote debate. Because of the president's condition and the the nebulous nece by which the President's campaign has announced whether or not, he would or would not have cove in nineteen well, the president has said he's backing out this happened just a short time ago in a phone interview with Maria. Bartiromo. On Fox News the president announcing he's not going to do a virtual debate I heard that they commissioned a little while ago changed the debate style. Then that's not acceptable to us beat him easily in the first debate according to the polls that I've seen but I beat them easily I felt I beat a measly I. Think he felt into it wouldn't answer any questions that he had the protection of Chris Wallace. All night long was tried to other Chris Wallace was a disaster. But I beat him in the first debate. At the second debate, we have a never-trumper as a host, but that's okay because at beat them in the second debate also. And I'm not, GONNA DO, virtual debate. SAY YOU'RE NOT SO MR president. You're not going to do it because this ep the Commission on presidential debates announcing this morning that the second presidential debate will be virtual. You say you're not gonNA participate. No I'm not, GONNA waste my time on a virtual debate. That's not what debating is all about you sit behind a computer and do debates ridiculous. And then they cut you off whenever they want. I have a host to I. Always thought it was a nice guy but I see the never trumper in came out that he's never trumper. We do have some of them, Maria believe it or not because they don't like to win. and. But I'm not doing. They didn't even tell us about that. So you just learned us this morning. We learned at the same you learned that they called up. Two minutes ago and it was announced and tried to protect Biden everybody is. that. NBC disaster where he went on to show it Lester Holt, it was like it was meant for a child. That happened. A very short time ago the president of the United States say, Nope, no deal not going to do a virtual debate eight. Now, let the commission on presidential race. You know I assumed this morning when I heard the news that they had reached out to the campaigns in negotiating, but they had not They had not reached out negotiated. The commissioner presidential debates did it unilaterally the president's team is not happy. This is actual real news being generated over the debates. We may have seen the last presidential debate and vice presidential. I mean we saw the last vice presidential in but President from there were two more scheduled. The commission what they decided is that they in the audience would be in one location and then Joe Biden and Donald Trump via satellite in separate locations very much like you do TV panels because they were worried about the safety and the viruses listen I don't know that you can take that seriously given the the silly theatre last night of the plexiglas between the vice president here is that was so stupid he was completely unnecessary. But yet they had it anyway and it just it seems to me to be a little bit ridiculous that they did it. But now they're doing this I'm actually really surprised that they did not run this by the presidential a campaign before announcing it. The president pulling out I suspect what they're going to have to do is negotiate now with both sides to try to come to some terms now if the president. Test negative for the virus then icy no reason why he can't debate. But for weeks on end, it was the president's team saying that Joe Biden wouldn't show up for debate and now it's the president who's not gonNA show up for debate and he can say it's because they changed the rules they changed the format But if the president of the United States can't be flexible, that's a problem in the Biden campaign is going to have legitimate tool to use that against him and I suspect that they will use it to good measure against the President I, think the president's team. Needs to see they can come up with a compromise with the commission on presidential debates. Now, I realize no American wants to subject themselves to what we saw with the last presidential debate. The president actually has a really good shot at having a good second debate. And if he's blowing up that chance I, suspect what you're going to start having is a lot of grumble leaking behind the scenes from Republicans who are beginning to distance themselves from him. That's already starting to happen is Republicans grow nervous that the president is it stay on message enough to be able to make up the gap they believe Israel. Avoiding in again, everyone who support resident can say that the pulling gap is is wrong but you do need to understand that the Republicans actually believe it's true. And they're starting to move away from the president subtly slowly John Cornyn in Texas Martha mcsally in Arizona Lindsey Graham a little bit in South Carolina when it comes to handling of the virus These are things that they're going to have to deal with and for the president. Now to come out after saying, he was going to have a another great debate and say, well, I'm not going to do it because they changed the terms of the debate in ways that I think people. Your average nonpartisan person who wants to try to figure out who to vote for is going to say, well, this was a reasonable compromise. Well, that's that's GonNa be a problem for the trump campaign and they probably need to think about this. Now he did the other day stay there would be no further stimulus in the market went down and he walked that back and said, well, we're not gonNA stimulus per se but will do certain things that caused the market to recover. So he could do something like that for this I. Suppose. That leads me into the vice presidential debate. My goodness gracious that was an actual somewhat presidential debate the one thing you need to understand. And this is exceedingly important for you to understand. In debates. When you train a candidate for debate. What you absolutely fundamentally positively must learn as a candidate is this never? Ever. Ever, never never ever ever never ever answer the question, the moderator asks you. Never answer the question in the way the moderator asked You the question answer the question you wish the moderator had asked on the same subject. So if the moderator asks you is the Sky Blue but you wanNA talk about the grass being green. You WanNa talk about I. I appreciate in this country we have wonderful policies that make the sky so clear and bright and beautiful but I really think that we need to focus on the grass because so many people think the grass is greener in China right now and it's not the sky. That's important. It's the grass that's important in who's grass is greener. You do you never answer because the the moderator is trying to induce you to give an answer that they think could illuminate you to the American people and possibly. From some voters so never ever do that. You always answer the question you wish was asked and you saw this last night with the vice president for example, going back said well I'll I'll answer that but I need to go back to this point I and Susan Bauge couldn't corralling and and he would go back and then he'd run out the clock and so for example, she asked him about. Presidential Succession and had he and the president ever had a discussion about what it would look like when it would happen how it would occur and well I need to go back to this cove in nineteen question and the way Kambas referred to it and I just don't think that he he didn't need to he didn't need to answer the question he played it right? He did a good job. We also saw that was common Harris last night also refusing to. Answer I I will tell you this i. do believe I think that Frank Luntz is right. He does these focus group panels. This seems to be even the democratic consensus last night. The Democrats actually do believe that Mike Pence probably did have the stronger debate perform Franklin's is all of this along with us tonight and he is an expert at getting a sense of what everybody else thinks they're watching this debate play out frank good evening to you thanks for being with us tonight and a panel. Yes, we did we have fifteen swing voters, undecided voters from eight different undecided states, and they gave us three conclusions and Brett will show it on your show tomorrow. But the complaint about Elizabeth About Kamala Harris was that she was abrasive and condescending the complaints about Mike Pence was that he was too tired. But vice presidential or presidential. If. This is a battle over style and substance, which is often the case with undecided voters because they simply do not choose on policy. The also choose on persona this Mike Pence's night. Mike Pence's night. Yeah I do think it was Mike Pence's night and I do think that overwhelmingly people had the had that reaction I do think that the vice president of the United States came off as far stronger than Comma Harris she came across somewhat defensive if you will. Out She answered a number of questions. And I think that she also to some degree came across as condescending in a way that didn't come across well I will say this though. I went into this and I predicted before before it started. Before it started before anyone ever said anything I announced on social media and sets on my evening radio. program. That Mike Pence no matter what he did if Mike Pence came in. And stood until Comma Harris sat down, he would be accused of sexism. If he sat down before Comma here set down, he would be accused of sexism if he timed it to sit at the same time, which she did he would be used of of sexism. Dan, rather on social media last night accused him of Man's was almost it seemed coordinated of the number of the old people in the media who rushed out to say he was man's planning he was man's planning eighty the vice president said was considered sexist anything vice-president did was considered sex's anything other than the fly the fly in his hair. Everybody, bipartisan found humor in the fly in his hair. Gives people a costume. Now to go for Halloween, you can stick a flyer here in the vice president of the United States makes it released he but the the entire idea of this that he was somehow man's planning by daring to disagree or correct Comma Harris on what she was saying wasn't true or pointing out she refused to answer questions on packing the court. Man's planning man's planning. He man's blamed A. and. Of course, the man whose wife admitted he cried over Ruth Bader Ginsburg is one of the first ones out George Stephanopoulos at to you because obviously Mike Pence is a former television commentator does have a very calm demeanor but I think a lot of people were noticing some man's planning going on tonight. See it that way George didn't come across the woman didn't see the man's planning but George I, cry over Ruth, Bader Ginsburg Stephanopoulos did. A man. And as a man, I know it men do. Men. Fix things like cars or the Veterans Administration men take action like when to defend a friend or tell Russia enough is enough. Men make decisions like when to take out the trash or fire someone at the IRS. Real men lead they don't dither. Know men don't do. Sit Down To. You heard me. More and more of these hand feminine squatters are being put in positions of power. And as a man, a man who stands when he sees this ever-growing epidemic needs to be addressed, you know Willie Nelson once wrote Mama don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys. Folks I'm here to say, don't let your boys grow up to be that sit down to pee. Is those are real men they're liberals. And Liberals Close. To. Grow. To be man. That sit down to. Hello. There it is your keurigs in the phone number. If you want to chime in on the vice presidential debate is eight, hundred, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four, two, five, one of the interesting moments. That came out last night and even the media raised eyebrows over including Jake Tapper at CNN. Is this exchange with Comma Harris and the vice president, and this is one Republicans are already out there capitalizing on today on this most important body for a lifetime. Thank you Senator Harrison Susan or voting right now they'd like to know if you Joe Biden are going to. Pack the supreme. Court. If you don't get your way in this nomination, let's talk about the once again David Non Answer Joe Biden. People deserve a straight answer and and if you haven't figured it out yet the straight answer is they are going to pack the supreme. Court if they somehow win this election. People across country. If you cherish our Supreme Court, if you cheers separation of powers, you need to reject the Biden Harris ticket come November. The third reelect. President Donald Trump we'll stand by that separation powers nine seats from course, talk about packing the court then. Let's talk about. I'm about to. So, the trump administration has been because I sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee Susan as you mentioned, and I've witnessed the appointments for lifetime appointments to the federal courts, district courts courts of appeal. People who are purely ideological people who have been reviewed by by legal professional organizations and found to have been not competent are sub-standard. And do you know that of the fifty people? WHO President trump appointed to the Court of Appeals for lifetime appointments. Not, one is black. This is what they've been doing you. WanNa talk about packing a court. Let's have that discussion. All right. Thank you. Thank you, senator. Let's go on and talk about the issue of racial. Just I just want the record. Reflect she never answered the question so Maybe, the next debate Joe Biden will answer the question I think the American people know the answer vice. President. Brianna Taylor. Down from there, listen this is this is this is this is the point that they're gonNA turn into camping and they should I don't WanNa be the harbinger bad news I I did point out yesterday yesterday was the four years ago yesterday. Is Win the win the. Access Hollywood tape dropped. And Hillary Clinton was ahead in Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin Florida North Carolina. And Joe Biden. Now, based on the polling averages is ahead. In the exact same amount. In the exact same states. And Donald Trump won them all. Republican strategists are holding onto that for some hope and also a voter registration and voter enthusiasm for the president. They're worried though by the numbers there is an avalanche of early voting happening in the states the question is are these people who typically have a propensity to show up at the polls in their voting now because the virus or will they show or will they be supplemented by other showed up at the polls on election day I don't have the answer to that. They don't have the answer to that and they're gonNA have to somehow or another trying to figure out what's going on I will tell you. There's growing concern among Republicans. That, the president is toast that he doesn't have the discipline to maintain the campaign and that Are Angry with him but there's also a sense that the Senate itself as possible and the Senate bean salvageable means the Republicans need to focus more on that the Republicans need to focus on saving that and this packing. The Supreme Court issue is where they're going to go with it packing the Supreme Court is going to be the thing you hear more and more over the next couple of weeks particularly with the Barrett hearing starting on Monday now listen Jude Dopey mad at me. All I'm trying to do is convey to you what I am being told by Republicans. I am trying to convey to you the since of Republican strategists on the ground in swing states and at the national level involved in campaigns from president down to congressman they are all concerned about the president's lack of discipline. They are all concerned about American anger at the president over the virus. They are all concerned about all of these things and they're just not sure how it will play out there willing to be surprised. They want to admit that can be pulled out but right now they really want to save the Senate. and. The polling and some of these Senate races is it good for the? GOP EITHER from Arizona North Carolina, there are problems. So they want a salvage, the Senate if they can. And they're hoping court packing becomes the issue Overwhelmingly Americans across the board do not want the Democrats to pile more seats into the US Supreme Court. and. The question is going to be whether or not The Republicans can turn this into compelling message and a reason to keep the Senate there is some sense the polling that the American public would like the Republicans to keep the Senate they're they're gonNA do their best to make the case that they should be allowed to keep the Senate and we're going to hear. A lot about court packing in the next couple of weeks. As a result, it is Eric Erickson here. The phone number if you want to chime in on last night's vice presidential debate is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric Eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five and I want to continue. Now going through some of the clips just in case you missed them. One of the things that I want to focus on is the Mueller, family Kayla Mueller. Her family was present. She was killed the the Obama Administration did not aggressively go in and try to find her. Her parents have now come out and supported the president they spoke at the Republican convention. This is that exchange last night against those who would do us harm. You know when President Trump came into office. Isis had captured an area of the Middle East the size of Pennsylvania. President, trump. Unleash the American military. And our armed forces destroyed the Isis Caliphate and took down their leader Al Baghdadi without one. American casualty. Now Baghdadi was responsible. For the death of thousands. Notably America's hearts today or with the family of Kayla Mueller. Parents have which are here with US tonight in Salt. Lake City. Today. To the killers responsible for Kayla Mueller's murder. Brought to justice in the United States you John was killed on the battlefield along with the other beetle. Reality is that When Joe Biden was vice president we had an opportunity. To Save Kayla Miller. Breaks my heart to reflect on it, but the military came into the Oval Office presented a plan. The said they knew where Kayla was Baghdadi had held it for eighteen months abused or mercilessly before they killed her. But when Joe Biden was vice president, they hesitated for a month. and. When armed forces finally went in, it was clear. She'd been moved two days earlier. And her family? says. With A heart broke the heart of every American that. President Donald Trump had been president. They believe Kayla would be live today. Thank you. We destroyed the Isis Caliphate. And you talk about reentering the Iran nuclear deal in the last administration. That was a strong moment that listen I. Mean Democrats last night. There was this bizarre moment. I was actually just a buddy. My we sent me a text on on this very issue. There was this bizarre moment last night were Comma Harris is talking about all the people who died of covid nineteen and she's smiling. It was this very bizarre. Very bizarre, moment. Were calmly Harissa smiling. Over Two hundred. TEN THOUSAND AMERICANS DEAD As if it was some sort of major gotcha moment. And it. It was. It called even Democrats last night off guard that and and again the court packing answer is the Democrats know they've got a problem on a but they can't answer it. They can't answer it. Here's the problem for Joe, Biden and Comma Harris. When it comes to court packing and while you're gonNA see the Republicans push in why you've got I, mean just just listen to David axelrod from CNN last night I think that I think after last week I should have had a better answer. Than the the non answer that she gave I understand the politics of it but I think they they should. But what I would say. Understands of autism here the politics of it. If the Biden here's team comes out and says, yes, we're going to pack the court. They're going to alienate a number of Americans who look at Joe Biden is as a reasonable guy who is not going to rock the boat. If they say they're not going to pack the court they're gonNA alienate progressives who want them to pack the court. They really don't have a choice in this. They've got to try to walk the line, but in walking the line and not saying anything they're going to have a hard time moving forward. Particularly if Republicans decide that there's it's no longer worth saving the president the Senate needs to be saved and they don't have the resources for both the court packing issue is gonNA. Be The thing that gets the Democrats in trouble. Now, I'm not saying the Republicans. Go through the president of over where they're doing what they can to take it on, and again a Joe Biden is right now at the same percentage is roughly where Hillary was in the major swing state. So Hilary lost those even though she was at those percentages Joe Biden good as well. The Republicans are doing what? They can they do understand it just seems like the is Joe Biden's back but they're trying to change the dynamics if they can. I think the president walking away from the next debate because it's basically zoom call after parents have been having to do zoom call education for their kids for months is going to rub some people the wrong way maybe they'll be. Able to save salvage that too. But the Democrats are GONNA have to come up with an answer on court packing and they're gonNa have to take aside? Yes, we wanted or no we don't Joe Biden is going to have to issue some direction. He will be president of the United States and if he can't do it because he's afraid of alienating inside then. The Republicans are going to make a out of that and they're going to use it in the Senate seats they're going to use it in Iowa. They're going to use IT in North Carolina. They'RE GONNA use it in Georgia they're going to use it in Arizona they're gonNA, use it a main. They're going to use it across the country this of packing the courts. The American people do not want the courts packed because they understand it will become a tit for tat you will add to Democrats the Republicans will then add who Republicans and on it goes until the court has to sit in Mercedes Benz Stadium in downtown Atlanta to make any decision you're just not going to get a receptive audience to doing that and that they can't take a position tells you everything you need to know about the politics of this for the Democrats their party is divided while everyone else is united against it, and if they come out against it, they're going to cause. Progressives within the party to become alienated the they've got the tiger by the tail here and Joe Biden knows it he smart enough to know it. He smart enough that we can't answer. He's hoping that others will cover for him on this. But when you've got David axelrod and Jake Tapper in the prominent people at CNN, say you got to have an answer for this? They're in trouble on that issue. Now. To you. Let's begin the fold Galt eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. Let's go to Adam anathemas you're going to be up I. Welcome. Hey, Eric. Thanks for taking my call I. Appreciate what you do. Thank you. So you know, one of the frustrating things especially last night when my pants gets ask questions about their Cova response and the economy. You know I. Haven't heard a lot of talk about what these governors have doing. They WanNa lay it all at the feet of trump but. This has been the result of what governors have been doing, and I think that's an argument that could be made. So yeah, I just haven't heard that much and that's been fresh. Listen I I wish that there had been an opportunity for pins last night actually make that statement that you can't have a unified federal response to everything in this country because this country's a federal republic ups states the the police powers invested in the governor's healthcare payers invest in the governor's the White House has provided guidelines. The governors have to implement them I think there there there was really an opportunity for him to make that point and I wish she could've last night because it's such a point Democrats don't seem to even want to acknowledge. That we do have governors and by the way, the governors who have done best or governors like Brian Kemp here in Georgia and Rondo Santa's of Florida, not actually Andrew Cuomo New York who the Democrats claim In fact, I don't know if you guys have heard this or not. But Andrew Cuomo yesterday held a press conference about breaking up large crowds and he focused on breaking up a large Jewish Orthodox crowds that were parading through the streets worshiping together and they used video from a funeral seven years ago. Was a seven-year-old funeral that they used as a picture to show a gathering that happened in the last several weeks. They blamed a staff error on that good grief Jeff calling from Athens as well. Jeff Welcome to the program. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for taking my call. I have a Jewish in just about the Georgia amendment to really for certain laws. What your perspective is on that law were passed and then you know how held. At Georgia but also I'm a big to advocate. Second Amendment advocate. And I wanted to know how that would also affect. Or looking at it through the Lens of the Second Amendment of and that's a great question in first of all thanks because I'm I'm glad to take your questions distraction from non stop talking about the vice presidential debate and I would. Later. No No. No, that's totally fine. I I saw what you were calling about. Him was happy to take 'cause I I WANNA deviate a little bit and this is worth pointing out. Jeff's up until two thousand seventeen. The Georgia's Supreme Court in Georgia you could sue the state if you felt the state was doing something illegal. And the Georgia's record in two, thousand, seventeen, a, it was actually a pro abortion group sued the state to stop a pro-life piece of legislation and the Georgia Supreme Court said ways they can't do that you. You don't have authorization from the state to sue the state now Nathan deal and Brian Kemp have both been opposed to giving individuals citizens the authority to sue the state to stop something illegal, and they've premised it on the the pro-abortion movement suing to block in. State Court PRO-LIFE LOSS the problem with the logic in. My opinion is that what they do is they rushed to federal court and they used the federal courts to block Georgia pro-abortion groups do and then what happens is federal courtroom than required to interpret Georgia law as opposed to Georgia judges interpreting Georgia law I support it because I actually see if let's say everyone is truthful here inaccurate and the State is training to the Democrats. You're going to start seeing major changes in a second amendment laws in the state of Georgia on concealed carry right security things like that if Democrats already have. Something in the Senate right now that it hasn't gone to the floor but it it's been proposed as far as like a an all out ban exactly in the Republicans won't let it come to the fore. Democrats can propose whatever they want. It's not going to vote. But if the Democrats take back, they could pass it and under existing Georgia law, you would not be able to go to court and sue the state over that law. If the amendment passes its amendment two and if amendment two passes, you would be able to go to court and say this is unconstitutional This law has to be stopped and that's why I support it because if the state is training to the left. And I don't necessarily think it is as much as as people say it is. But if it is that you and I ought to be able to run to court and have a good judges stop or issue injunctions on state laws that would restrict our freedoms because the Democrats right now are doing it. They're just running to federal court to do it We should be able to run into statement cheaper to do you're more likely to find a conservative judge and and stop those piece of legislation. That's that's why I favor it because the second amendment is really where the Democrats ever take back power. That's where they're going to start restricting rights I and we ought to stop them. So, Xanax we gotta stop on Yes sir. Yeah absolutely. As a matter of fact, folks I'm voting. Yes. On on all of their two minutes and there's one referendum, and in the next hour I am going to spend some time on them all of them. 'CAUSE, I keep getting questions about him but I I WANNA take. Jeff just give us pause to reset on the vice presidential administration or the vice presidential debate and what's going on and I I do also want to say that well. Naturally, the media is rushing out. They can to defend the Democrats and calmly Harris though I played you the clip of George Stephanopoulos saying that there was men splitting. It was very funny that the female correspondent disagreed with him whether or not it was man's planning. But. The other issue that came up in the debate last night is commoner didn't really have a good answer for when might pinch highlighted the green new deal. She was one of the very first sponsors if not the first sponsor for the Democratic Green new deal when it got to the Senate. And she's been walking away from it ever since Joe Biden embraces it on the campaign stage and then distances himself from it when asked by the public and the vice president took him to task about it last night. Senator Harris just said that climate change is an existential threat. I president pence jubilee that climate change poses an existential threat. Said Susan, the climate is changing. We'll follow the science but. Once again, a Senator Harris. Is denying the fact that they're going to raise taxes on every American Joe Biden said twice in the debate last week. On Day One, he was going to repeal the trump tax cuts those tax cuts delivered two thousand dollars tax relief to the average family of four across America. With regard to banning fracking, just recommend that people. Look at the record you yourself said repeatedly that you would ban fracking. You're the first Senate co-sponsor of the green new deal and Joe Biden denied the green new deal. Susan. Thank you for pointing out. The green new deal is on their campaign website and is USA Today's head. It's essentially the same plan as you cosponsored with Ao see when she submitted in the Senate. and. You just heard the senator say that she's going to resubmit America to the Paris climate, accord. The the American people have always cherished our environment will continue to cherish. We've made great progress reducing co two emissions through American innovation and the development of natural gas through fracking. We don't need a massive two trillion dollar green new deal that would impose all new mandates on American businesses and American families. Here, right highlight that. You know in in Australia the Labor Party there was expected to win. Until the Conservatives in Australia started highlighting the fall out of their version of the green new deal. And the conservative wound up winning because people knew how much their taxes would go up the Republicans should keep hitting this income I didn't have a response for it and couldn't deny that she was the sponsor of it, but also couldn't embrace it because she knows what it would mean for them and that would be bad. At this hour of the program, it's sponsored by Romania digital. 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The rioters have not actually stopped in these places is just the media has decided to stop covering them because they're afraid of jeopardizing Joe Biden's electoral chances. In in there throwing rocks and windows and homes. That's that's GonNa be a deeply problematic issue. For. The Democrats in places like Wisconsin trying to win where Joe Biden is barely ahead in the polling averages, the president can completely pull this thing out the other gray motoman. This was such a good moment I. I loved that he did this was this part of the exchange on Covid Susan. Thank you and I want to thank the Commission and the University of Utah for. Hosting this event and Senator Harris. Privileged to be on the stage with you. In our nation's gone through a very challenging time this year. But I want the American people to know From the very first day. President Donald Trump has put the health of America First Before, there were more than five cases in the United States all people who had returned from. China. President Donald Trump did what other American president had ever done. And that was he's suspended all travel from. China. The second largest economy in the world. Now Senator Joe Bi Biden opposed that decision. You said, it was enough phobic and hysterical. But I can tell you having led the White House Coronavirus Task Force at that decisional owned by President Trump. Bought US invaluable time to stand up the greatest national mobilization since World War. Two. And I believe it's saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. Because with that time, we were able to reinvent testing more than one hundred, fifteen million tests have been done today we were able to see to the delivery of billions of supplies. So our doctors and nurses had the resources sport they needed and we began really before the month of February was to develop a vaccine and develop medicines and therapeutics had been saving lives all along the way. And under president trump's leadership operation warp speed we believe we'll have. Literally tens of millions of doses of vaccine before the end of this year. The. Reality is when you look at the Biden plan, it reads an awful lot. Like what president trump and I, and our task force have been doing every step of the way. And quite frankly. When I look at their plan that talks about advancing testing creating new p. p. e. developing a vaccine. It looks a little bit like plagiarism. Joe Biden knows a little bit about. I think the American people know that this is a president who has put. America first in the American people I believe with my heart can be proud of the sacrifices they have made it saved. So well played even layer had to shake her head and smile I can't believe he just did that look on her face of course he did it. It was predictable. He was going to do something like that. She should should've expected it the the vice president had such a great debate last night he really did in harassed did not have a great debate last night. Democrats themselves were a little bit taken aback by her a cheerful smiling demeanor when she was talking about all the people dead from the virus she seemed just a little bit defensive and I personally think that she. I mean did better than she did in the presidential debates in the primary, but she just didn't have a good night. Does it matter? Here's the bottom line, the vice presidential debates, vice presidential. Bates, never matter. I don't think they're gonNA matter this time I I, just don't think that the vice presidential debates are significant enough to reshape the trajectory of the race one way or the other in anytime in any case in any presidential campaign including this one this race is going to be won or lost based on Joe Biden and Donald Trump and whoever is the center of attention right now is probably going to be the one to lose, and unfortunately right now that's the president he needs to stay of limelight a little bit lead Joe Biden gets the maximum exposure and see the voters decide me really is out of his mind Hello And Welcome. It is Eric Erickson here the Eric Erickson show across the state of Georgia I am so glad to have you with me this morning on the phone number is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. If you want to call in and be a part of the program last night, the vice presidential debate happened it may actually be the last debate. We have this year the reason being the president is decided he's not happy with what the nonpartisan presidential debate commission has done. They liked to be called the nonpartisan presidential and and let me explain how the nonpartisan. Presidential debate commission. Works. It is a group of academics, essentially members of the media who organized the debates and the format and everything is negotiated fairly will line by line between both candidates. they agree on moderators they agree on styles the moderators get to ask the questions they wanna ask but otherwise they agree all about the formatting and things like that and the commission however, I. Reach. Out to the campaigns but they did not they just flat out said that they are going to do essentially socially distanced debating a the president's calling it a virtual debate they're going to have the the moderator and the audience in one location and then Joe Biden in Donald Trump via satellite. Because of their concerns about the president and Joe, Biden's health and the virus, the President I played this earlier but it's worth played again, he was with Maria Bartiromo on Fox business for an hour this morning she asked him about this as it had happened I heard that the commission a little while ago change the debate style. That's not acceptable to us beat him easily in the first debate according to the polls that I've seen but I beat them easily and I felt I beat him easily. I think he felt the to it wouldn't answer any questions and he had the protection of Chris Wallace all night long. It was just thought he other Chris Wallace was disaster but I beat him in the first debate the second debate we have never trumpers as a host but that's okay because I beat him in the second debate also. and. But I'm not going to do it virtual debate. SAY SO MR president. You're not going to do it because the commission on presidential debates announcing this morning that the second presidential debate will be virtual. You say you're not gonNA participate. No I'M NOT GONNA waste my time on a virtual debate. That's not what debating is all about you sit behind a computer and do a debates ridiculous. And then they cut you off whenever they want. I have a host to I. Always thought was a nice guy but I see the never trumper in came out that he's never trumper. And we do have some of them Maria believe it or not because they don't like to win. And They didn't even tell about a man. So you just learned this this morning. We learned in the same way you learned that they called up. Two minutes ago and it was announced and they've tried to protect. Biden everybody is trying to like that NBC disaster where he went on to show with Lester Holt, it was like it was meant for child. Well. That's the president. You know a a buddy of mine texts me during the break in. I here's here's my reaction here and I agree with the buddy of mine who's texting me that it's the present came out and said, look you've all you've all done these sorts of zoom style things with your kids in education that they don't work great in. This is a debate about the future of the country and the presidency and I think we need to be in person so we can have this conversation. and they they WANNA be able to cut our mics keep separated and I don't think that's good. Instead just coming out and say, no, I'm not going to do this virtual stuff not gonNa do it in they're just trying to protect Biden. When you do have a bunch of parents who have been forced to do these zoom style calls with kids at, he could have a needs to repackage this more relatable way. If that's the last debate though. The striking that the only debate we've had between Joe. Biden and Donald trump was widely heralded as the worst presidential debate in American history. The president actually has the opportunity to have a do over and do better and you know just it's it's worth pointing out here you'll. For months and months we've been told by Republicans that Joe Biden wouldn't even show up for the debate. and. Then after the first debate, you had all the people in the media Saito Biden should never do this again and Republicans He had a bad night. The media doesn't want him to do it again they're trying to protect him, and now it's the president walking away I just in my mind that doesn't look good. Feel free to disagree you call into if you want, and we'll talk about the vice president's be. There's other news I want to get to the phone number. Here is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric Eight seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five going to go next to Tom Tom don't want to keep you waiting. Welcome. Thanks, Eric Great Show usual. Shake, always fresh air perspective I really wish the vice president who I. Am A, big fan, and admire of it just as a good person I really wish when Kamla Harris Said said about you know all these countries abroad don't like us in our foreign policy is terrible. I would've said, what countries are you talking about senator? What are you talking about Bahrain, or are you talking about the United Arab Emirates just have? For the first time ever have have full diplomatic relations with the nation of Israel. When nobody before the president has been able to do anything like this are you talking about the the the three Nobel Peace Prize nominations at the President has garnered in the last couple of months You know where he actually accomplished something and and as opposed to what? The Violence of. You know previous Bosch was able to accomplish did nothing and he gets a a Nobel peace price is that what you're talking about? Senator Harris. I mean, it's just that would be good. It was just. Such a low hanging fruit. was and I gotta say a reviewing in my mind the debate last night. Now, there were a few moments where I had to go in and get more bourbon to make it through I full full disclosure I need another Cigar Bourbon. But I don't recall them really engaging in a deep discussion of the. Middle East peace deal and I think it's unfortunate because the reality is the president is not getting credit from the media in a way. I think the president should be getting credit from the media for that deal and the vice president of course, is one of the best defenders of the president and all that stuff I mean what what you said is. Great he he. He should have said it. But last there will be no more debates. It seems Tom thanks very much for the phone call the phone number here eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric Eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five It looks like I mean if the president is walking away altogether from the debates, that's it we're done. My goodness Okay. I need to. Change. Subject. We're GONNA come back to the vice president we will and I'll take your phone calls on it. But this kind of bothers me. Here, is a story from the Atlanta Journal Constitution. White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows hosted a lavish wedding for his daughter in Atlanta. This may despite a statewide order and city of Atlanta guidelines that banned gatherings of more than ten people to prevent the spread of the deadly corona virus. The wedding took place may thirty first of the Biltmore ballrooms and midtown Atlanta. The seventy or so guests including US Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio Don Tuxedos and ballgowns for the endure affair. But no masks as meadows walked his daughter Hayley down the aisle through a path of soft white flour pedals with crystal chandeliers, marble floors, and a frame of soaring Roman arches. The less she seen could have come from any wedding magazine. Were it not taking place at the height of a global pandemic? Although the state of Georgia had loosened some restrictions by the end of May government's orders at the time expressly banned gatherings of more than ten people. The statewide order in effect which signed on May twelfth restricted gatherings of more than ten people. So long as they're not transitory or incidental or spread out across different locations, pictures of the wedding reviewed by the JC show groups of people clustered closely together in the same room throughout the evening under the emergency order law enforcement could have potentially written citations to the venue for exceeding the gathering size. The next statewide order, which took effect the day after the wedding on June first specified for the first time that event venues and banquet facilities must follow the same safety guidelines as restaurants. It also raised the number of people allowed to gather from ten to twenty five still a fraction of the number of guests at the wedding the limits now in place which banned gatherings of more than fifty people have largely been ignored by state government officials president trump vice president recently addressed large indoor crowds of closely packed supporters, many of whom were not wearing face coverings in Metro Atlanta and Kim has flouted his own restrictions by tending recent GOP rallies that drew hundreds of people. y'All. I don't care. I don't care. It is unseemly. It. IS UNSEEMLY FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO FLOUT LOSS. Let let's let's concede the point there. But you know what? The public officials who are Democrats have flouted laws as well and not member of the media has really cared about. I have seen the crowds riding through the streets of Leonard. You know they're erecting an eight foot barrier around the state capital because protesters are still protesting regularly down there. Vandalizing things is the city of Atlanta. They're more than fifty people gather dope they're not. Was Kisha, bottom the mayor of Atlanta. Demanding that protesters be arrested for not social distancing or ticketing them for not wearing masks when they were protesting. NOPE NOPE NOPE nope. We're their demands that they. This is no. In fact, we had healthcare professionals. Tell us it was their obligation to take a stand for black lives mattering by protesting defy the law they were exercising their civil rights to do it. Not One member of the media gave a Hooton hell over all the protesters storming through downtown Atlanta rioting without social distancing to worry mass, and you're going to be outraged over a wedding. Because IT'S DONALD TRUMP Steve staff seriously. This is why people. Are. Not, taking any of it seriously it has nothing to do with Mark Meadows not complying with the regulations. Would it does. Is it shows. A complete lack of disregard by the media for any symbol of objectivity on the issue. If the media is not going to be fair on the issue, I'm not sure why anyone else needs to be fair on the issue if the media is not going to denounce the crowds gathered and then they're going to rush Oh, we can't tell the the virus didn't spread there because it was outside apparently the virus will spread outside if you're confirming a supreme court nominee, but the virus will spread outside of your packed in fifty thousand together burning buildings down. In downtown Atlanta apparently, the virus wants to know if you're LoC-. And if you're woke, you're not going to get the virus. Oh but those conservatives Washington outside pay no attention to the indoor gatherings where the virus actually spread the outdoor stuff the hypocrisy of this of the media enlisted I the reporters here they're they're fine reporters they got a great scoop God bless him for doing it but you're not gonNA point out that no one on the left really cares. You. Yourself have not been able to have funerals for your loved ones but John Lewis Gets Ruth Bader GINSBURG. It's a funeral all the dead liberals get great big funerals and you're not allowed to have one free great aunt sally. You're allowed to March. If Mark Meadows said that we were actually doing a black lives matter rally the media would give him a pass. A bunch of people in the room. To to profess their love for black lives. Oh, I'm sorry I I'm sorry. We're questioning this. Why was their wedding dress on? Well because we were we were marrying ourselves to the calls Oh you hero mark, meadows? No it was an actual wedding that actual people there. and. So it's gotTa be ridiculed condemned in shamed shamed for daring to actually have a wedding. And by the way, you will note that the finagling of the wording. That up until June I. quit, Hall's not technically included in the executive order. So they could technically get away with it they would let a Democrat technically get away with it, but they don't WanNa let Mark Meadows get away with it. Hello there it is your accent end the phone number is. Eight seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five, and you're going to be up next. Welcome. Hi. Hi there. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you for taking my call. Sure. I Wanna I wanNA comment about the very last question from the young from the young child. And I think that I think that vice president. Did A, beautiful job. Explaining to this young. It's young little Gal you know Just how things are You know agree to disagree you know things of that nature but. The other one oh gosh. She danced around she danced around that little girls question and never even answered her. This is a little. I gotTa tell you. It's funny. You should say that because this actually even democratic commentators on the new show last night even on NS NBC pointed out that she didn't answer the kids questions that she dodged the question and that it was kind of an easy question the answer. Right so she can't answer a simple question from a little child. What does she even thinking and she's got a sneaky smile. There's something not right with that. I. My guess is that that was the the contempt smile that she was putting on that smile to show her contempt for the vice president and thanks for the for for for the common question yeah I I'm. I was Kinda surprised that she would. Answer the question from and I forget exactly. What basically on civility in politics these days the the the was eight year old concerned about civility in politics and didn't want to answer the question when the vice president did and I just think that the it's notable that she didn't in the same way I think it's notable that they continue to dodge on the court because it's okay. So here's the thing. and. I keep going back to the court packing bit because I just find it striking that this is increasingly the line of the day from the media that even members of the media are shocked that they Kanye. She wouldn't answer the little girls question. She wouldn't answer the court packing question. This is Casey from NBC News Very Much. I also want to touch on Savannah to the Supreme Court, and this is another thing that pence did from a tactical perspective. He actually is the one who asked Kamla Harris about what's called packing the court this idea that Democrats if they. Control the Senate and the White House might add justices to the Supreme Court and Comma Harris wouldn't answer that question she sort of deflected instead, and that reflects some tensions in the Democratic Party that there is pressure from the left to do this, and it's something that makes centrists in the party. uncomfortable. So that was a moment where she struggled to answer a question. Yeah the the fact that that is that was that was Casey Hunt talking on the today show this morning. To a large national audience in the morning, she's talking to that. Calmly Harris won't take a stand on packing the courts. She won't answer questions from an eight year old. She won't answer questions on packing the courts when asked about Joe Biden's plan to fight the virus, it's almost identical to Donald. Trump's plan to fight the virus. She's just arguing over whether or not. They'll implement it better not is it was just it was a remarkable moment between the two. well, I'm happy to take more of your phone calls on it by the way eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric, eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. If you want to talk about A-, I've got other stuff out there today as well that we really need to talk about I and I want to circle back to one point the vice president made on here in the questioning of Amy Coney Barrett. Right now I want tell you that this show right now we've got a number of great advertisers in one of them is actually yet another vendor who I was a customer of before they decided advertised on the program and dorm. They're they're in Acworth Georgia. It is true precision true precision makes parts upgraded parts for guns. They make awesome upgrade parts for your guns. For example, I have a glock forty three that I got through true position, I. 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Per Se I I hope my buddy greg is what he just texted and said he was watching this one is for him in this is this needs to be pointed out because there was a in the debate last night when they were talking about Amy Coney Barrett and the. In the Supreme Court not the court packing question but the tests, the religious tests and the The the frustration, the Republicans have had. With the left leading. Bit of the Supreme Court and the issue of whether or not they will actually treat civilly. Nominees. And Harris was having none of it and denied that she had never attacked anyone for being a Christian or being a member of a religious group or anything like that. Well, my Buddy Greg you sit me this link last night. Matthew Cotton Nettie wrote this January Twelfth Two Thousand Nineteen at National Review. Kamla La- Harris is set to announce her candidacy for president sometime around Martin Luther. King Junior Day what sort of chief executive would she be? Well, here's your first clue. On December Fifth Harris posed a series of written questions to Brian Buesser president trump's nominee for district court in Nebraska the third question read as follows. Since nineteen ninety-three, you have been a member of the Knights of Columbus, an all male society comprised primarily of Catholic men. In Two Thousand Sixteen Carl Anderson Leader of the Knights of Columbus described abortion as quote, a legal regime that has resulted in more than forty million deaths in quote. He's not wrong. Mr Anderson went on to say that quote abortion is the killing of the innocent on a massive scale. In quote he's not wrong. Were you aware that the knights of Columbus opposed a woman's right to choose you mean woman's right to kill a child we knew joined the organization what? Harris was so apparently, you're not allowed to be part of a pro-life group. Oh. Let me tell you where Jesus stands on abortion. Calmly I'm sorry the maker did you hear that last night? The maker looks down I mean what the hell is this the maker, the make no, there is a name his name is God. Maybe say Jesus or Y'all way the maker. Who is abstract at least she acknowledges a divine deity. But. Her follow up question. Were you aware of the knights of Columbus opposed marriage equality when you joined the organization and have you ever in any way assisted with or contributed to advocacy against women's reproductive rights? Who so you're not allowed to be a member of a charitable organization if the cheered organization is pro-life according to calm layers. You be a member of NAMBLA, the national. Association of what the The man Boy Love Association Oab. Sure she fine with that. But God forbid you WanNa be part of a Catholic organization that actually believes that that children are conceived and and have life with you know so. Just as an aside. Just so we're all on the same page here. What would Jesus say about abortion? There's a Servia forty, four percents of Christian say the Bible is ambiguous on abortion the hell it is Jesus. Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit Life dwelled within Marietta conception. If Mary could have abortion, she could have killed the creator of the universe not really but get the point here life begins at conception. The Bible even says, science says, science says it such just Bible? It's science course. These are people who believe the boys can become girls. She's going after the Knights of Columbus. This is this is. A these people are, but it's not just that it's not just that. I was getting there. I was getting there there. There's the Dan. Mclaughlin? Buddy Dan McLaughlin. He has this other story about her on the court last night. So Dan is longtime friend of mine he started writing with at Red State and now has over at National Review. And Calmly Harris last night I don't have the audio clip, but she did the whole refusing to talk about the court packing and then she wanted to lecture on Abraham Lincoln really by as an aside. As an aside last night. Comma. Harris. said that President Trump's handling of the coronavirus was the worst handling of any situation by any president in American history. Let. Me Tell you a story children. There was this man. His name was James Buchanan James Buchanan. The left thinks maybe he was our one gay. President. I. Don't know doesn't matter who cares. What we do know is that James Buchanan was faced with the break-up of something called the United States of America. And it is indisputable in the history of this country that James Buchanan could actually I don't know invested his time and preventing a frigging civil war in this country where hundreds of thousands of Americans were killed and James Buchanan, did not. Get. More people died in the civil war than of the virus yet come layers thinks that president he should just completely idiot when it comes to American history I. Mean I realize she grew up in California and in California they teach the history of the Union history of the United States that may be the problem but still it was impossible to miss this from baseball. Great Dan. McLaughlin how Comma Harris like Joe Biden. Refused to answer questions about their plans to expand the supreme court but she also misinterpreted history Harris claimed at the VP debate. That, Abraham Lincoln refused to nominate a candidate for chief justice in October eighteen, sixty four because honest. Abe said it's not the right thing to do and of the people to vote I lincoln. Of course said no such thing. He sitting nominee to the Senate in October of eighteen, sixty four. Because the Senate was out of session until December. He sent a nominee the day after the session began in Samuel. Chase was confirmed the same day and Lincoln wanted to dangle the nomination before chasing several other potential candidates because he wanted them to campaign for him. Lincoln's priority was winning the election which was necessary to win the war and he filled the vacancy at the first possible instant comma. Harissa simply inventing history. She is inventing history because she does not know her history. That frankly is the problem she. She does this repeatedly, she's done this routinely she did it in the in the presidential debates for the primary for the Democratic primaries. Well, she's she's not a great debater and she just made stuff up on the fly and the vice president didn't call her out on the stuff although he did totally smirking he did the whole Comma Harris I roll smirk when she made history about Lincoln at least he did that. Now. We must move from her to the New England Journal of Medicine. Friends the New England. Journal. Of Medicine. Would like you to dry from office the president of the United States. The New England. Journal of Medicine believes that the president has been so incompetent in handling the virus that he does not deserve reelection, they have never the media helpfully points out ever ever weighed in on a presidential election. Okay. Can we acknowledge. That, there is a level of broken nece in politics these days. There are literally. Out there in this country who can't put a political sign in their yard? Because, their home will be vandalized. Meanwhile in Atlanta. Like painting blood from sheep above your post so that the angel of death would pass by you or hanging garlic around your door to keep the vampires away. Rich White folks for putting black lives matter signs in their yards teat the protesters from burning down their houses. But. You can't put a trump sign in your yard in these parts of Atlanta Windows are smashed. Politics is broken a Lotta people. This tends to happen when you're God becomes the government in you worship at the altar of Uncle Sam's man boob and what he can give you. And the Democrats are in Greenlee doing this and a lot of medical professionals are as well and they've decided that they need to weigh in on politics because if it's not enough for you to look at the death toll and it's a free to look with your own, is that the media coverage and it's not enough for you to look at what's actually happening in this country by God they themselves want to tell you because they consider themselves the experts. That it is so it is bad and you must not go down this path again. He got a problem with a lot of things that this administration has done including on inland covert and I think the president calling getting covert a blessing from God. When a whole lot of people died of it is something he should not have done I. Don't think he should have made some of the more casual statements about the virus in the last week and I realize if you love the President you may not process with you it may not track, but as someone who has relatives who have died of the virus and who've died of the virus I gotTA. Tell you I know a lot of people. Now, some of whom were kid to me, who that all rub them the very wrong way and they were not people who aided the president but they're rather rather upset with him right now. But. There's also this contemptuous business out there if we're really honest about it there is a level of contemptuous nece in elite publications and other outlets. They don't like the president and this is their opportunity they have this since he's going to lose, and what you're beginning to see now is the great pile on happening they're piling on and condemnation of the president because they can't stop us now he's toast we might as well get on. Board The Bandwagon. It's bandwagoning by by the American elite and I. Don't unders- think they understand the ramifications of doing this they're destroying their own credibility in. So doing they may think they are wise and pontificated and tried to help people realize the error of their ways but it comes across as snotty rude and demeaning to a lot of well-meaning people who under the Obama Administration lost their jobs because the Obama Administration told them to learn to code. Instead of actually working their jobs and so they voted for Donald trump not because they're big. It's not because they're racists not because they're haters but because they were unemployed and starving and they blame Barack. Obama And guess what many of them got their jobs back until the virus that came from China that the media L. blames on the president because God forbid, they ever told the truth about where the virus game there are plenty of things to complain about with this administration. They're pleased thanks to complain about with the handling of the virus there plenty of things to complain about with what the president did did not do. There are plenty of things to complain about with the execution or the lack thereof on handling national plan or non national plan advice to the governor's. On what to do about the virus but the idea that everyone who supports the president is a Hickory, a bigoted racist and they all need to be talked down to endured ad for daring to support the guy who actually got him a job is little bit condescending for the New England Journal of Medicine to come out until the Hickson road take you stupid people. Do you not realize we're the smart people in you need to do what we want I can totally understand why a lot of people are told to go do things to themselves that are anatomically impossible. I totally get the anger frustration by people who win the president his his in in their minds been very flippant with virus I totally get it. I don't think he should have done some of the things he's done in the last week in dealing with virus. I don't think even though you support the President I. Don't think it plays as well as some of you seem to think it does with a lot of people connected to the two hundred, ten, thousand people who died. But these elite publications wanted to come out and lecture people on what they need to do. What it does is it makes people more likely to question them. We are in a crisis in this country of expertise. The experts in this country told the president not to move the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem where it would start world war three. Not only did it not start world war three it also helped bring about peace in the Middle East. They were wrong. They told the president not to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal or else. And he did and nothing happened. They told him not to withdraw from the Paris climate accord or we would see out run runaway global warming did not happen. The lead in this country have routinely told the American people to do certain things. The American people. At I listen to them did the things and the bad stuff still happened. And now the American people are totally skeptical of listening to the elite. The elites in this country told people not to gather in crowds. In condemned small business owners who wanted to reopen for having protests and then the moment black lives matters decided to take to the street. Suddenly mass protests was a civil right that the virus itself could not penetrate and not only should they do it but if you didn't do it to your a racist bigot. Some of US might want to separate the New England Journal of Medicine from all of that. But I don't think we should. Because it is a publication of elite medical opinion. And it elite network opinion science there really shouldn't be room for politics. And if the individuals involved wanted to come out and release statements aid hey this is where we work and we think this guy does deserve to be reelected because he muddied the science. That's fine. But from here on out this publication once respected across the board is going to lose some respect from some people who used to take it seriously because they've decided to weigh in on a topic that they're not experts about the presidential election, they've decided to voice the opinion of a publication that is never delved into politics before everything in this country should not be about politics they're going to see happen to them exactly what's happening to the NBA in the NFL and Major League baseball the like? Yes, it's. Publication not a sports team but by God people are tired of politics getting wrapped into every freaking thing in our lives, people are tired of getting on Delta and seeing the little black lives matters pins on the stewardess of flight attendant and the captain's shirts. They don't even want to wear but delta's push them to wear their tired of seeing the protests sports and they're tired of these random medical publications coming out and decided to weigh in on politics. People are really tired of the politics right now. And, ironically, these publications risk backlash in favor of people doing the very things they're told him not to do just to spite them and I can't really blame people for behaving that way at this point I I'm I'm surprised I was sitting here during commercial break now that we have a long commercial break here. But I was I was flipping through Hitler. I'm I'm kind of discipline I may have to do it for for my for my email haven't seen out yet, but I'm. I'm kind of disappointed personally. That, no one went with. Pretty fly for a white guy? The fly on Mike Bits is here last night and I couldn't tell if it was stuck because you know they use they use so much history. Okay. Let me let pause. Let's let's pause on the moment here you know I do TV and lately I do tv out of the House. And so I got to do it all myself. I've even gonNA. Put on makeup. I gotTa make up kit. and. I start going to put it all myself. But normally a when you go into these things, they put makeup on you and they do your hair. And when they do your hair. They put an incredible obscene amount of hairspray on your hair. And I genuinely became concerned last night. That the fly was stuck in his hair. and. It could. Now if you have no idea, what if you didn't see the debate last night towards the end of the debate, a fly flew into Mike Pence's here and refused to leave. and. Just okay. So I'm watching outside. So I, I'm set up Philip comes over we decide where we're. GonNa have cigars Bourbon will livestream part of the debate. We'll have kind of like a mystery science theater conversation about what's going on in the debate we'll. We'll. We'll do that for about thirty minutes. Then we'll just sit back and watch. Well, we're outside you can hear the crickets and occasional bugs land on the TV screen. And, move around the TV screen and Philip occasionally gets up and choose them off the TV. Screen within the fly landed and I had I thought the flight was on my TV screen. Like well, that's awkward and I want to get up and move into that I noticed that with the vice-president moves his hair the fly moves. When he moves way, it comes back into you could see it on carriers like Oh asks not my tv he was bugged someone bugged the vice president last night the Russians did it down maybe it was the CIA whereas John Brennan bugging the vice president last night. And it eventually flew away but I was really concerned for a moment that it was stuck. 'CAUSE y'all they put so much hairspray on your hair for those sorts of things I mean. It's like you've got a sticky helmet on your flytrap. mean. I can tell you from personal experience when I've been on like state of the Union state of the Union. I don't see an end or or at Fox when I was on and you go in and they put your makeup on and then they do as much hairspray on you as they do I mean you stuff stuck in your hair and you don't even realize it. You'll lay down like I remember I was so exhausted one time I I went I went back to my hotel room. And I I was be I'd been on for something like twelve or thirteen hours is one of the elections and I was on for so long one time I was on for twenty six nonstop hours they totally screwed up schedule. I wit twenty six hours nonstop until Jim. Walton the president of the company. I had been on TV nonstop because he kept seeing he down ask why are they realized? What had happened I? Didn't care is my first time doing some big it was awesome I was fueled by adrenaline and end caffeine. and. But at one point I got I got to my hotel room. I was so exhausted after one of these days and I laid down. And I didn't even think about the hairspray and the makeup and I laid down and when I lay down, my hair crackled on the pillow. Like what is that, and then I realized that I got up I had makeup everywhere It was. T makeup they put it on thick to and there was a hair. The my hair was crunchy had to go take a shower. It was gross and I'm sure the vice president had to last night in that fly. I was afraid it was not going to get out of his hair. All right. When we come back the most bizarre story of the day, the head of the Forestry Association has had to resign in. Georgia for shoplifting. Hello and welcome. It's Eric Erickson here the Eric Erickson show all across the state of Georgia the phone number if you WANNA be a part of the program is eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, Eric Eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five. If you're on the if you're on the FACEBOOK livestream I'm there are so many people on the Internet this it looks like it's just all screwy I probably should have rebooted modem didn't nonetheless I want to go on and I don't know. Is it. Is it fun if I played as I think it is because I had forgotten all about it until a couple of weeks ago. We we Charlie and I put this together some time ago. But I just I'm I'm seeing more men and this is the thing. This is the thing. My voice just broke now that's not the thing. I I. I can't find any women. On television. Who believe that the vice president? was sexist or misogynistic or man's planning to calm layers. I I'm sure there are some that I've missed him on MSNBC. But I've actually been actively looking out for the comments from people about the President Man's planning or being sexist or you name it and I genuinely can't find those people except for men. For men Nellie Valerie Jarrett. It looks like this clip just cropped up in our little little system. We use that Valerie Jarrett says, he was disrespectful. Of course, they're going to say that, but it is overwhelmingly male anchors and pundits who are trying to to be in solidarity with your sister on the idea of Mike Pence Man's explaining and I just I think we're going to have to play this again This is George Stephanopoulos network to the woman. Listen to George Stephanopoulos and then the woman at to you because obviously Mike Pence is former television commentator does have a very calm demeanor but I, think a lot of people were noticing some man's planning going on tonight. I didn't see it that way Georgia didn't come across. I didn't see that George says the woman. I mean, what is it with these men tried to get in touch with the lady parts that they don't I guess if you think you can. You can identify that way you get them I mean the whole idea of. Okay Kit. Let me pause for just a moment. The entire idea of the solidarity bs right now that we've got in this country that your ally ship I'm going to be an allied of black lives matter is going to be an ally to the women I'm GonNa Allied whatever. It and what you do is you bend over backwards to say the things you think makes it sound like you're in solidarity with some Group of people you want to be in solitary with and so you got George. Stephanopoulos I think he was men spleen and the woman's like. Dude grow up here. He wasn't it just this reminds me of this audio. We put together some time ago I played it in the first hour. It's too good not to play again, and it totally captures the situation real men don't sit down to pee. I'm a man. And as a man, I know what men do. Men Fix. Things like cars or the Veterans Administration men take action like when to defend a friend or tell Russia enough is enough. Men make decisions like when you take out the trash or fire someone at the IRS. Real men lead they don't dither. Don't do. Sit Down to pin. You heard me more and more of these hand wringing feminine squatters. Are being put in positions of power. And as a man, a man who stands when he sees is ever-growing epidemic needs to be addressed. You know Willie Nelson once wrote Mama don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys. BA- folks I'm here to say, don't let your boys grow up to be men that sit down to pee. Those are real men they're liberal. Liberals those. has. To be. Sedan. I, love it I I. I'm so glad I remembered that we had it and it fits so much the the little liberal bellwethers last night that Mike Pence by daring to challenge comal Harris was somehow man splitting or sexist in you know there really was no way for him to avoid the attack. What's so weird to me is they're trying to eighty conybeare it as well for this report, somehow she is a, she's going to set women's rights back. How is advancing the woman to the highest court in the land and giving her a lifetime appointment setting women back. the the whole thing to me is is silly hysteria by the left, but they're continuing to pursue it there continuing to push it there continuing to to really make stuff up. To nurse grievances by people in it just it's hilarious to me like with George Stephanopoulos clip that you got out there. So he with me and leaning he was me inflating the woman's like no George I didn't hear any of that. Is I. Guess She I guess the woman who didn't hear the man's planning has been so indoctrinated by the Patriarchy that she can't even understand the man's bleeding but but Georgia's in touch with his feminine Bitsy doesn't have and he himself understands this is a man whose wife said he cried over the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. You as an aside. George Stephanopoulos it was first big job was. Worked for Bill Clinton. Worked for Bill Clinton. Now he's a supposedly. News Guy. At. ABC. How is it? How is it that? A. Democrat. Who worked for? A, partisan administration. Can Get a job in the media. And get a pass. There's another great example of this. and I it just it's. It's unfortunate to me as well. When we see for example, Jim Sciutto at at CNN he worked for the Obama Administration. Or. You know take Valerie Jarrett Valerie Jarrett's daughter now. Is. On CNN. She's on CNN. She's she's an anchor on CNN do you really believe that Valerie? Jarrett's daughter is going to be fair and objective Like CNN wants to be liked. And this is. Just another example. Of the media being the with Democrats and and CNN in particular, which tries to pride itself in being some sort of mainstream news network not really being a mainstream news networking. Listen I've got a lot of fringe work at CNN I. I'm not afraid to say Jake Tapper, a friend of mine is. I I like Jake a John King in Wolf Blitzer I know these guys. Gloria Borger. I Know Dana Bash their friends of mine. We don't always agree. But then you've got other people seem to like Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon and Jim scuitto and and Jim Acosta who who have decided that they're going to get ratings and make the stories about them. When Don Lemon comes on TV to talk about Donald Trump it is inevitably actually don lemon wanting to talk about himself. That's that's actually what it is. It's Don Lemon talking about himself. It's Chris Cuomo wanted to talk about himself and their liberal. They've got liberal views they they are left of center and They want to dominate the conversation with liberal talking points and CNN claims that their new CNN belittles CNN hires people to do nothing but watch Fox News, which is actually good because they can actually learn what the news is in the world. network doesn't want to cover right now because it might make the Democrats look. Bad. and. They stare at Fox News and they blast Fox us all day long and they say nothing about what Don Limiting Chris Cuomo were doing. And what it does is it causes people in the real world. Out in the heartland. In what the media call? Flyover country. To be increasingly skeptical of what they hear in the press to be increasingly skeptical of the views of the press. Take, for example. The Amy. Barrett hearings. Here's Senator Chris coons of what does he connecticut I believe or I can't remember And listen to what he says about Barrett basely. But you think she's qualified as a judge I think she is qualified as a judge I think she's going to be. An engaging candidate. She's qualified as a judge he says, and yet he's going to he's going to vote no on her. And the media is not going to ask this guy, why would you vote no look at the defense today of commerce commerce actually. Opposed to guy because he was a member of the Knights of Columbus. A Catholic. Charitable Organization she opposed him because he belonged to a Catholic charitable organization that feeds the homeless. Because that organization being part of the Catholic Church's pro-life. Will the media question on? No No. The media's tried to defend her today on that. Dianne Feinstein the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee said Amy Conybeare the Catholic Dogma dwelled who deeply within her she's going to vote against her because she was too Catholic. Do you remember the lectures. The American public got from the media when people speculated that Barack Obama was a Muslim. Doesn't matter. You can't oppose him because that constitution says there's no religion test. You know the the religion test in the Constitution doesn't actually apply to you and meet actually applies to the government. Here are the elected people imposing a religious test on Amy Coney Barrett, and these other Republican nominee is because the dogma dwells too deeply within them. You WanNA bring a guy into congress who wants to put his hand on the Koran and squares to Allah a Yoda you can't that out your hateful big Joe you say Barack Obama's middle name though you bigot know. Hussein. Who Cares? You shouldn't care. Where the problem is that if you do care about that, they call you a bigot and if they care about the Christianity. Of Age judicial nominees suddenly it's a legitimate story it's fair game. It reminds me so much of of the Cunanan conspiracy versus the stealing the ballot, the post office conspiracy no postal workers out there right now are engaged in a systemic conspiracy to try to hand the election of Donald Trump not even the head of the post office is out there trying to steal the election, for Donald, trump but members of the media believe it, and so we must be convinced that this conspiracy theory is real when it's not. But Cunanan, you can dismiss because the media doesn't believe it. Why must we treat their conspiracy theory? seriously. I I have no idea why other than they're the ones who control the news and tell us what we're supposed to think and there is a growing resentment and a growing rebellion against the media for that the media today has favorability ratings that are less than a bag flaming dog poop on your front doorstep. People would rather have bags of flaming dog poop thrown at them. Then engage with the American media these days. That's how poor the media's viewed in this country, and it's because of stuff like this at some point people realized there really is a real double standard by the press. And people are really rejecting it. People are tired of it. People are tired of being belittle by the press they're tired of being gassed slipped by the press. There are real news stories to be told. Facts you know CNN is right fact should matter. The problem is they only care about the facts if they the Democrats, these days including a lot of people at seeing and not all of them. There's some good people there there are. They're good people at Fox. There are some people at. Fox. That I wish weren't there. But we got to acknowledge that. There is a real bias in it's not a fact based bias. The media would have you believe we're just biased towards the facts in that you problem no. They're bias towards Democrats and a left-leaning secular worldview. If you raise questions about a Muslim and congress, you're a bigot if they want to raise questions about a Christian who might be Spring Court will then that's perfectly legit. Never Mind The constitution having a prohibition on religious tests. And people have rick figured out. There's a real legit double standard by the media and they figured out real and legit that the media holds them in contempt and they figured out to tune out and where they tune in their to facebook. And their into their fringe feeds, some of whom are spreading memes and and garbage and trash and stuff. That's not true and people will believe it 'cause they're getting it from their friends and so what does the media's reaction? It's not to do better. It's to attack facebook in your friends for sharing stuff that isn't true. They just don't have a level of self awareness to reflect it makes you what is the media in this country since it because what are the rules of since one of the rules of life is you have a level of self awareness and the media in this country does not actually seem to have that level of self awareness in so you do have to at some point wonder are they even a life? Welcome back should is there a cure exit here? UH So someone has already created a social media. For the fly and Mike Pence's hair. The first tweet. This is so well played the very first tweet from the fly and Mike Pence's here is I made it into the debate before the Libertarians? Well played well I'm sorry Libertarians I'm sorry but it was it was well played. Oh boy alright. Alright. Alright. I gotta get to the story. This is this is weird. Chuck Williams is the Director of the Georgia. Forestry Commission. And he has had to resign. Because he got arrested on shoplifting charge. Let me restate this. Chuck Williams the Director of the Georgia Forestry Commission has had to resign his position. Because shoplifting. Over in Gray Georgia. There's this fantastic hardware store in Gray Georgia, it's called ace of grey. It is a, it is a brilliant I mean we we take trips of the juice. You can get anything in there. You can get big green eggs, you can get a pellet grills, you can get regular grills, you get pizza ovens, you can get guns, you can get Ammo, you can get hardware stuff you can get boots and it's just one of those old school great hardware stores I, love as of Great. Purely, he was there and. A An employee noticed a price discrepancy. The employees stated the Barcode was missing from a fifty, five, ninety nine would handled saw. And observed that the Silky Sukhoi model saw valued at one hundred, nine dollars ninety nine cents was gone. The Ace employee told his boss they had not sold one Silky Soglo model since February. After reviewing the store's security video, it was found that a man later identified as Chuck Williams the Director of the Georgia Forestry Commission removed the Barcode from the cheaper would handled saw. And placed it on the Silky Segovia Goyo? Saul? Williams used his Asia rewards card a credit card purchase. The Silky Sequoia saw for total of fifty nine, ninety, one police report by using his credit card information they determined it was him. He was arrested on a charge of shoplifting less than three hundred dollars on August. Twelfth. Williams resigned on August fourteenth the straight forestry commission made no mention of Williams would announced interim director on September tenth. I read in one newspaper I believe that he had said that he had he basically did this for giggles I I think I read that in one news outlet maybe it's been retracted since then but it just You just would've would've would've bizarre thing To to that, and you know I, I've encountered stuff like this before with people who randomly do these let's say this is yes. Yes, that's it. That's it. That's it from the AJC Chuck? Williams accused of misdemeanor shoplifting from an ace hardware store in grey something he told the police, he does it quote unquote four, the thrill. For the thrill. Williams told police quote. He had done such things in the past and does it for the thrill? Okay. I've got to tell you. I've known people who've done stuff like I actually. I worked on a case. There was a whole what I don't WanNa uses name, but there was an organization here in Georgia several years ago. As kind of funny. So I I worked on a case when I was a lawyer. And it was a guy who ran an organization in the state and he was in a car wreck in Georgia. In random weird place and my client was the guy he hit. And it made no sense for this location for for this guy who is from a town to be there made no sense at all for him to be there. And couldn't figure out why he was there but he was in a rush to settle the case and I just assumed was was the guy having an affair or something there. And it moved on didn't think anything about it. Turned out. That this individual. Light to. Well. Self? Pleasure. In public. And apparently. Had gone to this particular place to do just that. And got caught in with scrambling to rush out and in was actually arrested in a different city doing the same thing and in was able to put two together as to what happened, and I just I people sometimes have these weird quirks about stuff in the head of the forestry commission shoplifting for giggles. It is Erickson here we're taking your calls as well. Your reaction to the debate, the phone number. Is Eight seven, seven, nine, seven Eric that's eight, seven, seven, nine, seven, three, seven, four to five Ari Fleischer was on Fox News last night, former Bush. Spokesman Press Secretary had this to say and again I do think this is an issue. The GOP has the opportunity to capitalize on what you have to assume that policy and you have to understand how people accused Donald Trump for being authoritarian. Hasn't done anything with our -tarian other than speak loudly. Packing the court is the definition of an authoritarian move. It means the executive branch is now filling up the judicial branch in a way. It's never been done before to get rulings that it desires by packing the court. Yup. I think your about seeing the GOP pivot to this issue fulltime particularly with the Amy Coney Barrett hearings as they begin Dick. Durbin, has come out and said this he's the number two senate Democratic Senator He's from Illinois understand the Republicans reversed the position. They were m four years ago when we face the vacancy of scully's death on the court. Bedtime they said, let the people decide in the next election. We're not going to fill this vacancy President Obama. So sorry, your nominee Merrick Garland will not even be interviewed, and so they waited for the election. It's came their way with president trump and then they filled not only that vacancy but another one on the court now they've reversed their position and sadly we're. In a spot. Now, with the number of votes, we have twelve reluctant Republicans and ten Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee that unless there is a change of heart among the Republican senators. If two more will join the two who already said, they're not GONNA be a party to this. We've got a chance, but otherwise, we can go through the motions we can do the. delay that is allowed under the rules, but ultimately, McConnell and trump will get their vote and they're desperate to get it before November tenth to end the affordable care. act. Before November tenth two in the affordable care act. that cases pending by the way in the United States. Supreme Court So. Let me give you. Kind of where my his right now. There's been a curve ball thrown in the campaign this morning with the president. Saying he's not gonNA participate in a virtual days not gonNA participate in via satellite debate where he and Biden around split screens but not in the same room. It is at this point near universally understood except by the president's most hardcore supporters that the president did not have a good debate performance. Frankly. Neither did JOE, Biden Mike, Pence salvaged it to a degree for the president. But the president really needed a do over. and. At this point, he's not GonNa get it. and. That's his choice. He. was offered it. He's not GonNa do it. The President I I just I really have a sense. Just from I. I know a lot of people who like the president but have come into contact with the virus and they've been frustrated with his hailing of the virus though they have been supportive of him in general they're really concerned about His reaction to having the virus a blessing from God the even don't be scared of it which I understand what he means by don't be scared of it, but it has rubbed some people the wrong way. And we're now starting to see some standard warning signs. That campaigns are starting to get. freaked. Out. Martha MC Sally and I'm not saying she's proud to work with the president. John Cornyn. In Texas openly expressing his frustration with the president's handling of the virus and he's perfectly safe state where he doesn't have to say anything. Lindsey Graham and South Carolina saying he supports the president on judges. But things you could've done better on the virus. You're starting to have congressional candidates also out there say doesn't matter what the President says we're going to try to do a stimulus package. This is different from two thousand sixteen and I know I know what? He's sixteen wrong and I'm tried to spend more time listening and talking to people now. and. Don't hear me say that the president's GonNa. Lose. Because I recounted yesterday the pulling is very similar right now to where it wasn't twenty sixteen to the President One and in e even after the access Hollywood tape which dropped four years ago yesterday. But I don't think you can dismiss the fact that there is something in the water right now that has Republicans pay. There's something they're seeing on the ground and I can tell you from my conversations with them, what they're seeing. I have been told, for example, by one person who's coordinating door to door in the suburban Atlanta. Area. That the congressional candidates David Purdue and and In this case Leffler. Are being received by voters who are Republicans. But that there is a growing antipathy for the president when they try to talk about him. And then in the last couple of weeks, there's been more antagonism towards the Republican brand is a hole. In the I four corridor down in Florida I'm hearing the same thing from people who coordinate volunteers but also I'm hearing that they're volunteer numbers Florida plummeted dramatically that in Florida there they've got now less than ten thousand active engage volunteers when they had more than twenty thousand just sometime ago. And they don't know if that's because people's lives have gotten busy schools going back or what but the volunteers. I'm told in Pennsylvania that people who identified themselves as trump supporters in twenty sixteen, they're going to their houses. Now they're doing door knocking, and some of these people are angry with the. President. And don't want to vote for him. I'm told in Wisconsin. That actually There are a lot of voters who didn't like the president and didn't vote for him in twenty sixteen who weren't going to vote for him now. But our so horrified by what's happening in Wisconsin with riots that the president may very well win Wisconsin. As, a result. But the bad seems to outweigh the good right now in again, I'm not talking about the polling I'm not talking about polls. I'm talking about on the ground door to door encounters over several weeks I'm talking about the donors who have decided to stop making donations. The mega donors for the GOP have started moving their money into the House and Senate funds and away from the present. That's never good sign. The volunteers are slowing down. That's not a good sign. So. There are Republicans who are worried right now. And they were hoping for a second debate where the president could Rian, Jenner it reenergize himself in voter enthusiasm for him. After a vice presidential debate, we're everyone even the Democrats knew Mike Pence was good abate and he did mike pence hit it out of the park. Biden still has no ground game and stuff like that does matter generating votes that get you several percentage points if we're talking about a massive blowout, well, then you're not gonNA overcome a massive blow out with ground game but I just don't think we can look at the national polling and see anything because the national polling could be waited very heavily towards a urban areas of the country that don't like the president. But we do have to pay attention to swing states. We have to tension to congressional races. And, there's a lot of data down to the congressional race level that there are problems. They are fixable. You have twenty six days to be able to fix them and a lot of people have voted but a whole lot more still to come. And Republicans are starting to get scared. Now, it is totally fair and accurate to say they were scared in two, thousand, sixteen to. If. You will recall four years ago today. There was a great deal of Shell Shock. Because the access Hollywood tape dropped at the same time John Podesta emails dropped at the same time. The federal government warning that Russia was acting people for partisan purposes to shape the election. All of those things happened on October seventh in addition to hurricane. And it seems like we're in a replay and so I totally. Understand sympathetic towards am cautious about the president's chances because in twenty sixteen year access. Hollywood dropped in you had Republicans trying to get him otherwise you had ranch priebus allegedly behind the scenes trying to orchestrate a coup to push the president of the race and he wouldn't go and he still won. And Republicans were worried about a meltdown. Then you had actor Republicans actively trying to push away. You had Paul Ryan and others counseling. Republicans in Congress to stick to their own campaigns at Gore the President Dole campaign or don't don't focus on him. Don't make him the center of the campaign focus on their own issues in their districts. And it worked. I do wonder at this point if the Republicans though do need to go back to that and say listen. Don't be distracted by the president focus on your race. door-to-door matters ground gay matters, messaging matters all politics is local be seen. Have Positive name ID the person with the highest name ID that has positive typically wins. So. Go for it. They need to do what they can salvage the Senate It is somewhat heartening that donors realized this on are moving a lot of money into prop up Senate races. But it I'm I'm getting messages right now from friends in politics and I'm seeing some emails come through from some folks in Washington who are active in Republican Party politics up there and there's just a growing sense from people that the president has lost his focus. That he's lost his focus and that starting to hurt him if not others here. Here's the thing. This was always going to be about in everyone knows even supporters and trump amt tag understand this. This was always going to be a referendum election. On who was on people's mind if Joe Biden was at the forefront of people's mind trump was gonNA win. If trump is on the forefront of people's minds. Biden's GonNa win. In, the Biden campaign seems to understand this and the trump campaign does not actually the trump campaign does understand the president himself does not. Joe Biden is calling lids every morning not for debate prep. He's calling lids every morning to generate no news and led the President own the new cycle and the president loves to own the new cycle. and. Some, Republicans are starting to worry that that's actually a bad thing for the president. They could all be wrong again in two, thousand, sixteen, they all got wrong. I got wrong. They could all be wrong this time you can take hard to the fact that these people are not geniuses. They're not rocket scientist, but they do do this for a living and they do understand when they're seeing stuff in the polls and it is actually reflected with their knocking on doors that they have some level of concern. But we should also understand. The Democrats. Do have a history of snatching defeat from the jaws victory. And that should encourage you to some degree The the Democrats are perfectly capable of screwing this up. The Democrats are perfectly capable of overplaying their hand on Amy. Cody? Barrett. They're perfectly capable of savaging her in ways that turnoff suburban women. They are perfectly capable of savaging her in ways that turn off religious voters who are thinking they don't particularly like the President boot maybe they'll go with Biden they're not after that. And it also has the potential to put Comma Harris on the stage in a way that puts her in an even worse possible light than what the debate did last night. There is hope for the gop there's always hope there's always time time is getting short time is running out, but there's always time they. They got the possibility of doing stuff right now here's Mark Meadows on the president's condition Oh, stay back I'll be. Glad to answer the obviously with the president he continues to work We've got a number of safety protocols with full Ppe mask goggles, and the like for any direct interaction with the president. In those areas we continue to have a number of areas where we have disinfectants in and for hard surfaces and the like but President continues to work He's in very good health we're we're pleased with. His progress and I had a briefing last night with Dot Conley late last night and we'll do so again this morning. I mean, you know here's something. The president can do I if I wanted to tell the president, you must do this. Here's what I would tell the president to. Come out and say, here's I. Don't want to do the debate. I don't want to do the debate because all of you have had the experience of zoom calls with your kids and teachers, and you know that it's dysfunctional and it's not conducive to actually had a conversation. We can be in person we can set protocols, we can distance I'm fine I'll be tested I'll show that I don't have the virus anymore I won't be contagious we can do this person. And then say you know as a matter of fact Had the virus I think I'm in a better position now to be able to take the lead on governing through the virus because I see firsthand how it spreads. I see firsthand that you can survive at my age. And I see firsthand that there are a lot of people in the media who have played up unreasonably. Fear of the virus. It's something to be concerned about its legitimate. It's real. But. It's also something that we can manage in our medicines and our treatments are so much more effective. Now than February and March we know so much more. We have so much better venison. We have so much better protocol and this treatment that I got isn't a special treat for me. It's a treatment available for all Americans. And I know now. Through having through it. The pain that people were facing. He can empathize and he can sympathize and he can use that for leverages an I know what I'm dealing with Joe Biden doesn't job I don't even know where he is. He can do stuff like that. He can turn the corner. There is just unfortunately and and I'm just trying to be real with you guys I'm trying to be honest. I don't WanNa. Keep things from yeah. There's just as growing frustration among people in Washington. Uh The republican side that he's not GonNa do stuff like that, and they're trying to keep their mouth shut because you know they do understand the president's voters will come for them and they they don't want to be they don't want to be taken on a power. But they're also like, Hey, man, there are things you can do to win this thing and you're not doing them and they wish you would and and they don't know who to go to even give the advice of what you should do to be able to do that and they're just frustrated and I'm seeing a lot of that frustration text messages and emails. And they're frustrated also that so many of the president's supporters don't actually understand what's going on just say well, you're all wrong then so you're wrong now when maybe they are but quite possibly, they're not necessarily problem we don't know why hello there. So I I, we have to talk about I guess racism. Not. Really. But yes. Twenty one distinguished scholars and higher education and research of published a letter calling for the New York Times editor Nicole. Hannah Jones to lose her two thousand Twenty Pulitzer Prize for the controversial sixteen nineteen project in the letter of the scholars assert the Pulitzer Board awarded Hannah Jones the prize in literature with a celebration of its alternative you of history, which asserts that America's founding was in sixteen nineteen with the arrival of African slaves Jamestown rather than seventeen, seventy six. According to the letter beginning almost immediately after publication though the essay and the project ran into controversy, it has been subjected to searching criticism by many of the foremost historians of our time and by the Times own fact checkers, the scrutiny has left the ESA discredited so much so that the Times has felt the need to go back and change crucial passage in its softening, but not eliminating it's unsupported assertion about slavery and the revolution. Victor Davis Hanson Larry Arnn Glenn Lowry for Brown University of all tweeted out Philip Magnus senior research fellow of the American Institute for Economic Research had documented previously how Hannah Jones made multiple claims that sixteen thousand nine was the year of America's true founding despite then try to backtrack the letter goes on to detail multiple instances where the sixteen nineteen project created series factual areas. Specious Gender Generalizations, enforced interpretations writing the duplicity of attempting to alter the historic record in a manner intended to deceive the public is serious and infraction among. Against professional ethics as a journalist can commit given the glaring historical fallacy at the heart of its account and the subsequent breaching of core journalistic ethics by both Anna Jobs Times our democracies founding ideals were false when they were written does not deserve the honour conferred upon it nor does the sixteen nineteen project of which it is a central part in which the board seeks to honor by honor and Hannah Jones say the board should acknowledge that it's award was was an error it can and should correct the error by withdrawing the prize. Now. Of course they are already being attacked as racist for daring to say that they should withdraw this price but you know it is it's garbage essay in what's telling here is that a lot of schools in the country were thinking of embracing it as part of their curriculum and they're walking away from it that in and of itself is kind of telling the number of schools that have decided to distance themselves from the project It was bad and you know I played you the Audio, the other day of the pastor who thoroughly. Embraced, the sixteen nineteen project, some sort of legit. It's some sort of legitimate. Endeavor that we were a four hundred year old White Supremacist Society and you've got these people out there who really believe these things who really hate on the country but it was remarkable to come full circle at the end of the show here it was remarkable last night. You had a a woman of Indian and Jamaican. ONSTAGE who is a nominee for vice president of the United. States coming just four years after the departure of the first black president of the United States. And she sat there with Mike Pence. Son Of Immigrants Who serves as vice president to the president of the United States who himself as the son of immigrants. And it just shows you the remarkable narrative of this country that sometimes it takes time. But in that time of this country elevates and heels in and moves forward together. And the people who don't want the country to move forward who WANNA drag it to the people like. Nicole head of Jones in the New York Times who want to revise American history to make it something shameful. No history of any countries ever? Perfect. But the idea that the woman who wants called White people barbaric devils and bloodsuckers should be awarded a Pulitzer Prize. For revising and lying about American history is really staggering and of course, you know they gave Walter Durante of the New York Times who lied to cover for Stalin they gave him a prizes well, at some point. There's going to be a reckoning about the stuff that there really is because even you talk to your average black. American. In this country, they do not despise this country the way. So many activists on the left do the New York Times does and e there's going to be a reckoning in this country over the stuff and it's deserve. We need that reckoning with these people on the left.

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Maria Bartiromo: Anchor At Fox Business | #ThePlaybook 209

"On this episode of the playbook I have one of my heroes and mentors Maria Barter. Romo two time emmy winning journalist and the host of Fox business and Fox News. She has one of the top business shows in all of America. And there's no doubt why because she actually will articulate the fundamentals to success. You have to join this legend in me here on the playbook. This is entrepreneurs the playbook each week. I bring you some of the greatest athletes celebrities and entrepreneurs to talk about their personal and professional playbook to success in what made them champions on the field and in the boardroom. I'm your host and CEO of Sports. One Marketing David Meltzer Day shelter with entrepreneurs the playbook and I'm so excited I have Maria Bartolomeu. She's an amazing legendary anchor here at Fox business and Fox News only about seventeen hours a day. Are you active? I don't like word work. And I don't like the word busy. Also an amazing journalists an icon and of course author. I think three bucks. Yes and you know thinking about this is about the playbook to success so Kinda WanNa go back because things are a little bit different today because of people like you and there's so much more opportunity I tell my three daughters all the time. I just want there to be more for you to pursue by whatever. You'RE GONNA pursue. I just went there. Be More of it because there wasn't a lot when I was younger. Even when my mom was young my mom tells great story. That may resonate with you think. Why were you a teacher? And she said we'll be honest. Women were either teachers or nurses and all the boys that cheated off me and high school and college. They ended up being on Wall Street doctors and lawyers and engineers and that story always resonated with me because really epitomized how I can see the evolution of women and being able to create this pursuit that you've been able to lead with and so starting off as a young girl. How did you get this? Entrepreneurial confidence that allows you to be the first woman on Wall Street. Yeah I think it's such a good question by the way my sister's a nurse so even the generation before me it's true. There were a lot of nurses and teachers that were women. And I don't think that it was communicated that other things were available to us but I think as I go back and look at my upbringing as sort of a way to connect the dots in terms of where I got my confidence and my courage to to strive for big things is I think first of all I was enveloped by love. My parents love me so much and they always showed me an incredible amount of love in that. I remember it was always. The family was behind you so a short story. I remember once I had a boyfriend as a young girl and he broke up with me. Wanted to go out with somebody else and I was crying and I was talking to my mother in my room. My Room was in the basement and I remember crying. Don't tell anyone don't tell anyone what happened. And she left. My Room went upstairs and the first thing she did was tell everyone in my family my father she told my brother she told my sister. My brother came down and he starts talking to me. My SISTER COMES DOWN. She starts talking to me. It was such a powerful lesson for me because what it told me at just such a young teenage age. That whatever happens to me. I'm not alone. Whatever happens to me I have my family is my backup and I think over the years as a young girl growing up I was always sort of part of a family unit where my parents always taught me to work really hard. My parents are are students of the depression so they always save their money and and and always. My mother always wanted me to be financially independent. She she you know. She talked about that a lot as well as a young girl but growing up I was the baby and I don't know my parents encouraged me to shoot for the stars and shoot for you know whatever I could do and they always stressed working hard. The always stress during the right thing and they always stressed loving. What you you do and so those are my three little lessons growing up. I think the courage and the confidence came the idea that I always knew that no matter what happened if I failed I would land on the floor but I would be picked up and I would be having the support of my family. It's a very powerful thing for a young person and you ended up going to Nyu too far from your home and choosing journalism and economics. Well here my pet. My parents were really instrumental in that as well because I was actually studying economics at nyu. Only because I did well in the subject I just did well in statistics for some reason and so I just kept taking more and more because I was doing well and in an excelling but then when I was a junior in college my mother said to me you know you should take journalism. I think you would be good at it and I said well. Maybe we'll some writing. I love writing and so I did and then I absolutely loved it so it was then my junior year in college that I changed my major and I made journalism I major and then I had so much credit in economics because I had taken so much of it that I made that a minor and it was just luck because it ended up that when I graduated we were at the beginning of what was to be a boom in financial television which is to use the word lock and I love successful people to define that word because sometimes I think it's misleading to young entrepreneurs and young people that all this was just a matter of luck so I always like someone like you to define what luck really means to. You know you're right. I mean I think that's a really good point because I think we make our own luck in this life Look my number one rule and I think everyone who's ever worked with me knows this is is to work hard. I always believe in the bottom of my heart. I always know that there are no shortcuts and that overtime if you work hard and if you generate the time the energy The attention to something. Then you will prosper at it and I think that that's certainly guided me but we all need a little luck you know you. I was lucky to be born in America. I was lucky to be able to find something that I love. Luck is always a part of things and I think you make your own luck because when you're working hard you may very well be lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time to get a job offer or when you love what you do you may be lucky enough to know what's on the horizon in terms of growth industries and have your path go that way so. I remember when I was at when I was at CNBC. I had an instinct that we should go to Alaska. I don't know why I just saw. It was during the during the election and I went to Alaska to interview to interview the governor who ended up being the nominee for vice president with John McCain and as I was coming from Alaska it was announced that she was going to be the vice presidential candidate. And My boss turned to me and said you know you are always making your own luck. You make your own luck because it was you who said I didn't need to go to Alaska. You wanted to go on an interview on the oil story in Alaska and energy and so you got her and now you have the interview of the moment again. I do believe you make your own luck and you have what you pay attention to. And then put your intention and I call intention or you think they'd do and believe equals those coincidences or luck in our life. But there is another component that I see in your career that I see Mir throughout a lot of people careers especially the icons in the innovators. Mavericks like yourselves. It's this idea that there's many options open even when other people don't see them vision of nobody. I'm sure when you're sitting e concourses at nyu. There wasn't a lot of people that look like you. Yeah well there were a lot of boys in the class before class. I always felt the need to Try It you know if you felt like you could do something or you wanted to try something. Just stick your neck out and try it and have the courage to do that so I guess there is certainly some of that when you went to intern at CNN. I think when you first started yes. What was your perspective? Then because there's so many young people right now. That's where we start with. Internships was. I'm a big proponent of what was your perspective of our eight. I'M GONNA go in here and what are you going to do at CNN? Well you know there too. I was very courageous and eager so I remember getting to CNN as an intern during college and it was a class for points. You have to get accepted to that program. I was accepted to the CNN program. And I thought well how can I get ahead? Who Do I need to meet? What do I need to do to get a foothold in this company? And I remember you know walking around to all the floors different departments shaking their heads and Maria. Bartiromo I'm ready to do whatever you need me to do. You know I'm ready to work hard count on me. I'm here for you if you need me and I. I took the opportunity while I was in the building to make sure to introduce myself to as many leaders as could should there be an opportunity later after I graduated and sure enough I started as an intern in the entertainment division As you know I was. I was in my senior year at Nyu. And then when I graduated in May I didn't have a job. The internship was over so I said to them. Look I will stay on and work for free if you need my help because I don't have a job yet and so they said okay so then stay in work. You'll work in news so then they put me in the General News Division and it wasn't until I met someone in the elevator. Who said to me you should try business news and I didn't really know what business news was. And what's business news? There's a whole division business so I said okay. Maybe I'll try it so I went into the business division and I and I took a test. And that's when they hired me but yeah I think when I got to CNN. I didn't really know what to expect at the Tyne. Cnn was doing something that nobody was doing. This is a different CNN. Then it was back then because back then it was Ted Turner's entrepreneurial. Cnn and he was trying to do whatever it took to do something different and at that time this was back in nine thousand nine hundred nine eight nine hundred nine when you know all the networks would wait until six thirty at night to report the news. Cnn was doing something entirely different and they were Reporting on a story as it was actually taking place as it was happening. And that was the first Gulf War and I remember as a production assistant Watching OUR AIR AT CNN and Bernard Shaw was in Iraq under the bed saying there were bombs going off right now and so I learned so much about reporting on a story as it was actually happening and that served me incredibly well later on in my career when I became the first person to broadcast on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange so I could report on the stock market literally as it was happening as it was trading evolved even further. So you had that instantaneous type of media for finance. We had the beholder sell right on the floor of the stocks. When news came out how that news affected the economy that we had an incident and then once again moving to Fox where they now have more of an entrepreneurial look of doing things that no one else does and yet you have longer perspective on all of your shows here whereas instantaneous you're able to evolve and develop a story which you know reading the endurance for success. One of your books. I was curious because to endure. Success seems to be an anomaly in a lot of people don't understand that that's what it takes. I talk about the consistent persistent pursuit of your potential. That's success to me to enjoy. That is your success I see that throughout your career and the books that you've written that endurance. What does it take to endure all the sexism discrimination? And then just beyond those things you still have to endure what everyone else indoors. Which is competitive business? You know jobs given to us now and in sports agency used to run the most notable sports as it's evenly Steinberg an ice to tell people not only. Do you have to get a client? But you have to keep them. That's right right in the same thing. Holds true in. Everybody wants your job. I was on my elliptical trainer at five in the morning going. Gosh I love his job right. It's chess so how'd you endure both sets of those challenges right? I mean it's very competitive. I could tell you right now. Business is very competitive. And if you want to weigh in if you want to be there and compete you need to have the goods. I mean. I know that in order to win. What's required is incredibly hard work. What's required is making sure that I do my homework. You need to know what's required to actually win so so there's that and then on top of just competing in a very competitive landscape. There are the other things that you that you correctly pile on because there are other things to deal with. You need to know your own limits. You need to know how much you can withstand. When I was on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange in my heart of hearts. I knew that many people did not want me there and I knew that it was a boys club. I knew that it was. You Know Me and a sea of suits every single day. I had to ask myself. How much can I take of this? How much do I want to take of this? Is this actually bothering me? In any way and it really wasn't I never was spoken to poorly or a couple of people on the floor. Who definitely didn't want me there when I did have some. Some interactions no doubt about it. But for the most part I have great camaraderie on the floor of the exchange and I have great friends because I saw it as a way to. I try to understand what was going on. I mean face it there were. There was not a reporter on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange before me. There weren't many women so you know they are looking at that situation through their own lens of this is how we've been doing it for one. Hundred Years. We don't WanNA change the way we've been doing it so I think with all of that. I think you need to know who you are what you can withstand what. What is it that you want if you want to win in order to win in that is in a competitive environment? There are some rules in that is working incredibly hard knowing your stuff. Make sure you do the work. You can't fool anybody so if you think you can you wrong because at some point. Someone's going to figure out that you actually don't know the story at all so it's really important to do the work and looking through that perspective. Those three things as I watched your career credible skills just evolving knowledge even to the point where you've now learned politics at how that affects the economy so so instantaneously as well but also desire and there's this integration that I see with successful people like you have extraordinary skills that take hard work and that knowledge that thirsty continue to learn and not. Just sit on your laurels. Here you have. I think more shows now than you had years ago in a bigger audience your Sunday show is the number one show in my demographic which I'm getting to the higher end of that but in the most popular demographic incredible giving encouragement to other people about the desire side one of the biggest questions I get is how do you stay so motivated and I call an inspiration to me. Believer always inspired. We just have to clear what stopping it. How do you stay so positive energetic and active as you know we start getting a little bit? Older physically is not quite as easy to travel all around the world and then get back on for seventeen hours in front of a camera. Well you know what it goes back to the fact that Love what you do. I do love what I do. And I'm having literally I can say honestly. I'm having the most stimulating intellectually stimulating conversation. I've ever had here at Fox because portfolio. Yeah this conversation conversations that. I'm having every day whether it's about the election about politics about policy zeroing in understanding policy better about China. These are some of the most intellectually stimulating subjects. And I'm having on the people who know firsthand with front row seats on many of these subjects. Look I think I was very lucky to come to Fox and bring with me a business background because when I arrived here six plus years ago now I had my economic and business knowledge in my hand and that was very helpful in terms of applying it to policy to politics and to the rest of the world looks like because at the end of the day it is about the economy it is about you know. How are you feeling economics drive every subject so that was my underpinning that I brought with me and I think because I love what I do and I'm having this is an interesting conversation? I want to keep doing it and when you want to keep doing something you know you you love what you're doing you want to work hard and when you work hard you'll probably end up being a winner in that regard as well so it's all connected but I definitely think that you're right. You know it takes effort. It takes courage to keep on going and and keep on working really hard but Luckily I'm loving it still so it's okay and you have such a positive optimistic attitude which when you're dealing with business and news you know a lot of people won't even turn it on anymore because they're afraid of learning and understanding you seem to find the light the love and the lessons and all of these different things. It's uplifting to watch your perspective of explaining your you knowledge to other people about things that most people are really afraid of especially today. Well you know what I'm trying to do mostly as I'm trying to seek out the truth. And where is the truth? There's so much misinformation out there and so much debate about what's going on in the country policy politics and what. I'm trying to zero in cut through the noise and get to the truth and if I can actually get to the truth on any number of subjects and communicate that to my audience. I feel. I've done my job and I do feel like that is why the programs are resonating. We have credibility the audience knows that if they turn on. I'm going to give them the truth and I am going to either find the truth or I'm going to die trying because I'm going to continue to get as much information as we can to get at the truth in all of these subjects and so. I think that's one of the big important reasons that we have. This audience that continues to grow on. You don't trust US aloom. When you don't know the truth. I love what I don't know it and I'm not GonNa Miss Speak and say something. That is not true. If I don't know the answer I'm GonNa say you know what I'm not GonNa Miss Speak? I'M GONNA find that. I'm going to try to find that answer. Your I'm GonNa come back to you. I'm not afraid to say that I'm not afraid to say. Hey you know what I was wrong. I own that it's okay. I love that and last question I do have three wonderful daughters and who look up to you and so I always ask this at the end. What's the best piece of advice? Not just for my daughter's but for everyone out there you have such an extraordinary experience journey. What would the best piece of advice be to an entrepreneurial person that's trying to achieve something in a long journey like you have? Wh what would that one piece of advice me? Well I'll give you a little pearl of wisdom from my mother who told me long ago and she wrote it on a piece of paper and I actually still have it hanging up in my dresser and she wrote success comes through preparation and it's true. Preparation is critical. And so you can't walk into a situation thinking you know what I'm just going to wing it. It's just not going to happen so you really need you. Prepare for everything. That's important to you to make sure that it goes well. I reiterate my three rules of success in that is work hard really hard. There are no shortcuts. Don't think you're going to get ahead in life because of someone you know at some point that catches up number to love what you do. You've got to do something that really excites you to get up in the morning and you WanNa go get at it. Because that's going to enable you to work really hard and the final one and this is not to be underestimated is to do the right thing. Always don't try to do the right thing. Just do the right thing. I gave a speech at Nyu. When I did the graduation speech a couple of years ago and I told the students they're actually think I said this in my speech to Saint John's University speech around graduation. I said made the commitment today today because in life from here on out. You will be throwing curveballs. We all get thrown curveballs and there are always those moments in time. When you say well this is the easier way to go. This route might be real easy for me maybe. I should just do that. And maybe it cuts corners a bit. But at least it's easier now. Make the commitment today to always do the right thing because no matter where you go no matter what industry no matter what geography. There's only one thing that will always follow you one hundred percent and that is your reputation so you need to cherish it respect it and protected that you do that by doing the right things. So those are my little my gems and wisdom pearls. Great wisdom when you can't even remember which commencement speech it was. That's amazing. I'm sitting here on my gosh. That's beautiful though and I will tell everyone we need to do as she does. Not as she says even because I think she walks the walk Maria year incredible. Thanks so much for leading the way in providing more opportunities for people to pursue in all areas of their life. This is Dave Meltzer with Maria. Bar Romo here with entrepreneurs the playbook by hope you enjoyed this week's episode of the playbook as much as me on a personal note. I just wanted to thank everyone for making the playbook such A. Don't forget to continue it by sharing subscribing and listening to your favorite episodes. Is Dave Meltzer with the playbook?

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11-30-20 What's News

The Nicole Sandler Show

06:44 min | Last month

11-30-20 What's News

"It's time for new coal sandler's what's news from nicole sandler dot com and the progressive voices networks. His last order of business before the thanksgiving holiday. Donald trump pardoned. We still haven't seen the actual pardon so don't yet know exactly what he's being pardoned for. But here's an interesting factoid. Michael flynn can no longer plead the fifth in any future investigations into the offense which could implicate donald trump despite a raging coronavirus pandemic with overflowing emergency rooms and intensive care units crippling the nation. Donald trump played golf three days in a row over the thanksgiving weekend and he continues to wine and lie about the election. Results trump gave his first post loss interviewed to maria bartiromo on fox business sunday morning during which he raged for almost an hour among his more ridiculous claims should be something that the fbi is investigating. The michigan is investigating michigan action. Kid tell you where they are. I ask other looking at it. Everyone says yes. They're looking at it. Where are they with. All of the stuff and what happened to durham. Where's dura so you know you're asking me a question. It's inconceivable you would think if you're in the fbi or department of justice this is this is the biggest thing you could be looking at. Where are they. I've not seen anything. Just they just keep moving along and they go onto the next president. Despite trump's disinformation campaign on. Saturday a federal appeals court judge in philadelphia declared that quote. The campaigns claims have no merit calling an election. Unfair does not make it so charges require specific proof. We have neither hear. Those words were spoken by third circuit. Court judge be beavis. A trump appointee. Who wrote for a three judge panel all appointed by republican presidents and the pennsylvania supreme court unanimously tossed another trump law suit that sought to disqualify mail in votes and so it went all weekend long. Meanwhile president elect. Joe biden was busy assembling his team. He announced the first ever. All female. Communications team biden campaign. Communications director kate. Bending field will serve as his white house. Communications director jen psaki. A longtime democratic spokeswoman will be biden's press secretary four of the seven top communications roles will be filled by women of color peeling towbar who worked on biden's campaign and previously was deputy director of immigration reform advocacy group. America's voice will be the white house. Deputy communications director corinne jon. Pierre who served as chief of staff to vice president elect kamala harris during the campaign will be the principal. Deputy press secretary biden's campaign press secretary simone. Sanders will be a senior adviser and the chief spokesperson for vice president harris. Ashley a former house speaker. Nancy pelosi who went to work for biden's campaign will be harris's communications director and elizabeth alexander. Who worked in biden's senate office before serving as his press secretary while he was vice. President will be jill biden. Communications director and on monday morning biden officially rolled out his nominees for economic advisers including center for american progress. Ceo near a tandon is director of the office of management and budget whale. Wally adam all who was a top international economic advisor and the obama administration was named as a top deputy to treasury secretary who biden confirmed will be former federal reserve chair. Janet yellen princeton's labor economists. Cecilia rouse was named chair of the council of economic advisers. Jared bernstein and heather boucher were named as ca members in pandemic news top us health officials on sunday warned that the nation could see a surge. Yes a surge on top of the surge in corona virus cases following thanksgiving weekend due to the risk of infections during travel and family gatherings there advising that. If you traveled over the thanksgiving holiday you should get tested. Hospitalizations of covid nineteen patients in the us reached a record high of ninety. Three thousand two hundred and thirty eight on sunday and on the vaccine front the us food and drug administration says it will make a decision about authorizing visor and bio and texts coronavirus vaccine within a few weeks. A key meeting is set for december tenth and as expected moderna will ask the fda to green light. Its vaccine as well. Cdc advisors called an emergency meeting for tuesday. Vote on who they recommend should be the first to get the vaccine wants. Their authorized president elect joe biden injured. His right foot. He slipped and twisted his ankle while playing with his dog. Major on saturday biden was found to have a fracture in the middle of his right foot. So he'll be wearing a walking boot for several weeks. But it looks like he'll be rid of it. Just-in-time for the inauguration by the way the dog in question was one of the biden's two german shepherds major who a rescue dog the first for the white house making up for the last four years with no pets in the white house. The biden have said they plan to also get a cat and finally on monday. The supreme court will take trump's unprecedented and contentious effort to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census which is used to allocate. Us house of representative districts two states challengers to trump's july directive of argued that his move could leave several million people uncounted and caused california texas and new jersey to lose house seats which are based on estates population. Count in the census. And that's just a bit of what's news for now. Nicole sandler if you appreciate these reports and the nicole sandler show. I hope you'll consider making a contribution. My work is one hundred percent listener supported. And i can't do it without your help. Find out more. Nicole sandler dot com and please click on that donate button.

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The South Florida Morning Show

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Of this show get a special deal get twenty percent off your first order with code yum. Twenty checkout schwann's dot com backslash young for details. The south florida morning show with jennifer ross and bill adams on news. Talk eight fifty. Mtl total fraud and how the fbi and department of justice. I don't know maybe they're involved but how people are allowed to get away from this with. This stuff is unbelievable. This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud. Fbi when we had one of those That's funny. It was funny to somebody. Said where's the department of justice. He goes awol. I don't even know where the hell they are. Missing in action guesses as good as mine. This this interview with maria bartiromo. Yesterday i was all excited because You know the trump tweeted. The i guess an hour before the interview. I'll be unintended with maria enjoy. So he's always got some good stuff. He was rambling on not answering questions. So this sent me into a depression that lasted probably a good thirteen hours yesterday. I'm sorry it was so frightening. He was the worst interview. I've ever heard him do everyday. It's just because he's just so focused on how rig this election wise point you make. And i think that's what i wound up in my head around. I think they're just. They're at the point now where they're trying to convince. The public put doubt in their minds of the general public. And that part of it's working as even forty percent of democrats now according to rasmusen right. No this was a total sham. Just look at okay. Explain what happened in. Pennsylvania georgia georgia. This was really. This was amazing okay. So yesterday afternoon Let's see i would balloon say shortly after one pm. I'd i'd try to put it on the timelines okay. This judge Decided to You know the lynnwood and and And sydney powell they filed an emergency injunction to try to get the voting machines impounded because george elections officials were wiping them. Like the process was already happening. They're wiping the mclean. Well how can they do that when this is still under litigation. Yeah exactly so. They're wiping them. So they get this job. This judge timothy baton to halt that all machines needs to be impounded immediately and stop any you know hijinks whatsoever happening with the machines. It was just over an hour later. Never seen this the same judge this baton reversed his own decision and he says no. That's no. I'm reversing decision. It's up to the individual counties in georgia to control their own machines. So fulton county can go ahead and go ahead and do that. Wow ten o'clock. Last night he reversed his own decision. Again what is it with judge to stop again at the machines or them impounded. All of them like no one can touch any of these voting machines. Now okay k. So but they also had. How many hours. In between his decision that is reversal. It's probably gone twelve hours. At least it all evidence they have is probably completely gone most likely anyway but holy cow. Isn't that tampering with evidence. Yeah well wouldn't there be a record that they wiped everything clean. I mean you would think so. Well they could also say well. We did it before the judge's ruling that was really something amazing to follow yesterday. Though i mean it looked dark dark days for a while and then i wake up this morning and get lynnwood attorney fighting for. This thing goes Sydney powell and i snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. I it's it's never ending. And then today. We have the big Era arizona deal. Yeah they're hoping that The same thing that happened in georgia pencil. What's up with pennsylvania. do we know. Did they just declare that biden or they still fighting there because i didn't see much about pennsylvania. Legislature is still fighting to have that decertified. That's still going on. Don't forget all this is up to these. These legislatures the state legislatures. They're the ones that decide the election. I think that's the play for trump. That's what they're gonna go to. Well we can only hope but even enough went on. Maria depressed enough that there was fraud or at least get enough people hearing that anyway and then get the state legislatures be under pressure. And don't don't certify these ballots. I can only hope they listen to anybody. That's on trump's campaign. They all say it was rigged fixed. But joe biden's team moving straight ahead and he's jinping around because he was playing with his dog and he fractured his foot. Shree do you think you just slipped and fell. Like i think or he just fell now he he fell he. Let's not forget because this wasn't covered in the mainstreams. Jill biden helped him off every stage. He appeared on for that last month of the campaign. The few times he was there she helped him off had to sell them where the stage was in helped him down the steps. Well and you've also noticed. Even during the debates. She came running out on stage almost immediately. she was the first one there all the debates. Well the debates they did have and i was like why does she rushed into his side. It makes you wonder doesn't it. I i highly doubt that he hurt his foot playing with the dog. I saw that. And i started laughing thinking you really think people are going to buy that other biden news know. The office of the president elect which is not a family. You see this last night so. They announced that their communications team would be you know. They won't get there but they would be all women. Yes and the washington post comes out and they say for the first time in presidential history in all women. Communication will be in the white house. It kayleigh mcenany us. Hello by us or we and it's been that way for three years. It's funny it was like i. It's that just shows you. How bias the presses just ridiculous all female communications team. And i'm thinking isn't that what they got now because i thought so just flat out lie. They lie about everything. No lie here. We get cyber monday to talk about. We got that coming up next. Yes oh and the aliens hit again. This is bad news bad news. I thought it was a fun. Little story we had on friday or. When did we leave friday when it was that wednesday. We don't even know where we are with the monoliths in the utah desert place by aliens now. They took him back. he didn't place. Who would pick those up. Did you see the size of them. Like a big lake helicopter. No it's which. I military guys goofing off. You watch your foes telling you either. That's where biden's haydn all the fake ballots. Maybe that was it a lot. More coming up next the south florida morning. Show this bill. Thanks karen we'll see at six thirty news saturday morning. Show talk fifty. Wfp elders jen. I'm bill And boy. I just saw this again. They just did. Another pole at rasmusen is one of the true pollsters. That's out there right so the entire country and they do they do massive polling like real ones with real stats. Forty seven percent of all voters. Now that's democrats and republicans. This is almost half. the country. Believe fraud was involved in this election. Oh my goodness that's amazing. It is amazing. I mean when you look at. How many do what. The president said yesterday boy maria barter role had had a great interview with him and he didn't answer the questions as you said he was. I think he's just so stuck on. It was rigged fraudulent. It's this it's that but how many because how many dead people voted. There's lots of deadly diana like. Oh my god. He goes to maria too many words in but she asked great questions. He was kinda rambling. I think you convince me he. May i think his whole goal was to just like we just said with that survey with that poll just to convince the people get them aware of the fraud that happened. They'll get into the details and all that other stuff. 'cause you know she was asking things like but sir. Is there a path to win. What is the path what happens next. Well the dead people. I'm sure you got. I got this went on for an hour just all over the place. Maria feel badly for but By he got you know but if you watch any other news network anywhere on cable on on regular tv. Oh he's he's calling it a fraud he's got no proof know they look like he's crazy. It's it's amazing. There's there's a mountains of evidence and they keep on saying that there's none all you had to do is watch on friday. The pennsylvania state legislature hearing. That was incredible. This stuff they were coming witness after witness things The things that they they're not just saying that they were not allowed to to to watch things to Observe the process physically removed threatened assaulted literally. Tens of thousands of ballots being recounted recounting. And and what are the president. Call them thugs. He said these weren't these weren't election officials. They were thugs. They were throwing the people who were supposed to be there to watch the process physically out of the building. I'm like wow. That's crazy so there was a couple of times in the interview. 'cause i watched the whole thing like okay sir. What was our exact path to victory. What will you do. And he kept on going this way he won. There's just no way one can understand. He's upset there's no way. Joe biden you got eighty million votes. I just said no way. Joe biden beat barack obama in the black communities of various cities and then he did very badly compared to obama in other cities throughout the united states. Which is a great point. That's true. But i think we all get it now. I think everybody that understands that. This was a fraudulent election. You've got everybody convinced. Now you've got to every time you have an opportunity to tweet or do an view. Now you get up come up with the goods exact details on this. You have right well. Hopefully they'll get those exact details if they can look at these machines and find out yes. They were all fed biden votes foreign five times. I mean or all. These dead people voted. There's gotta be proof of this somewhere. So if they have that proof how can they not say. This was a fraudulent election whether it be in arizona. Pennsylvania nevada wisconsin michigan wherever the case may be and every partial every possible angle to not allowing poll-watchers in the dumps of hundred literally hundreds of thousands in the dead of night after the vote was after the counting stopped in multiple states the tech things. Now they think it was compromised by not only china but iran with the smart matic voting system the legal challenges where in pennsylvania. The mail in ballots weren't even supposed to count. It's just amazing. Just apps and i gotta tell you something though too. I've sat in this chair for the past two and a half years every single time we talked about election twenty twenty literally every single time. I'll look it up for you. I asked every republican. Gop useless person on the air. We know what are we doing about. Election fraud covered. Let this happen and there's not some sort of plan that we're about to hear about that. They had in place where they caught them like in a sting operation. Shame on them and they deserve to lose then everybody. If if you and i knew about this that who was coming they were going to try to cheat and they didn't do anything about it. They're useless either that or they weren't smart enough to figure out how the democrats are going to cheat it. Everybody saw it coming everybody. Bill barr maria barter. Romo said this yesterday. She made the point to trump's she said bill barr told me on the air in june. That mail in ballots would be fraudulent and they would ruin the election. Why haven't they done anything. Why where's the department. Just what do these people exist. Oh he said the department of justice was what m m. I a he goes. I haven't seen him. Don't know what's the don't know like his bill. Barr on the back of a milk carton or something is amiss. Should we silver alert. Forum is he. Does this guy exist eight. Where's he been great question. I have absolutely no idea but but shame on them and these wimpy useless. Gop republican members in all these states. They are absolute wimps. They're useless here. You're right they are except for. I think rand. Paul was the only when he tweeted out yesterday that it was all fraud. That was really i was like. Wow okay. rampal comes from one of the few trustworthy ones. Yeah he has. This president has no support among these wimpy spinal justice unfortunately unfortunately we've asked them every time they've been dare we ask them every single time. Oh y'all we're on it. Yeah sure sure. What about you know. You were really concerned about the cyber part of it. Oh we're gonna cover covered apparently not and then you gotta worry about this. It's it's crazy. Tell you what you really worry about. What is this is one thing to have the monolith show up in the desert in utah. It was one thousand amount multiple another thing to have a ten foot. Monoliths structure removed by seti liens. Did you see how they founded. I realize this. I guess the department of i don't know the department of of of Agriculture was doing a sheep count in the desert near the desert and mountainous areas. This is gonna be fake news. What they send it as a sheep count in the desert. They did this but that's when they spotted this ten to twelve foot tall silver monolith in the middle of nowhere. Remember when you first talked about it. Before i saw the picture of it. There's no way there's no way like some college kids on a prank put this together. It's huge know what i think it is. It might be. Maybe it's like the military because isn't there like a military base somewhere near this de certain utah so anyway diener says he goes. Oh that's where they set up area fifty two well the utah department of agriculture. Whatever released a statement saying it's illegal to install art structures on public lands no matter what planet so they put that out on twitter next thing you know friday night it disappears lenore. Who's going to carry the thing that fall it be. It had to be done by very large helicopter. Helicopter you mean ufo. Like that's why. I think it was like maybe it's just a prank by the military that they put it out there just to see if anybody would spot it. Sure don't know sure it was any like those weather balloons back in the day. Oh those are. Ufo's at swamp gas right right. Well now it's gone. It's gone so where does it go after. Maybe maybe it'll be like where the world is the monolith lay carmen sandiego. Maybe they'll just place it in various bazaars botts across the country yeah they're going to find it in Noise somewhere and under it. Twenty thousand trump votes along with that. It's amazing absolutely amazing. Good all right. What do you do. What don't you do on cyber monday. Some tips for the apparently the expert. Well i can tell you why. I know when the date is to stop shopping and i can tell you that and Rallies continuing for the president wants coming up in georgia. They already had one in japan. A japanese trump rally. That's where i in japan right. That's wild it sounds different. I got to tell you it's coming up next in de bill. O'reilly's warming up stick around for that this morning. Show the gotta stop doing that calling a lid on that. He stopped for a while back in the morning. Show this bill. Welcome to monday. Cyber monday. Apparently the experts the boy experts have been pretty wrong and a couple of minutes. We got what they say what. You should buy what you shouldn't buy when you should do it when you shouldn't do it. Speaking of experts. Yes you know it's been wrong about everything The little dictator. Yeah him. here's what she says. Now about the kids get the data. The spread among children and from children is not really very big at all not like one would have suspected. Yeah well everybody suspected that. Actually but in the meantime since then you recommended closing schools closing businesses. You destroyed lives. And that's where you are so magically after the election gets to say this bill de blasio the mayor of new york city announced. I do believe elementary school. Kids go back to school. I think it's next monday. And then they're gonna do a like a roll out program where the middle schoolers go in the nice schoolers go but cuomo came out and said it safer to be better in school than it is to be out of school. I'm thinking in this guy's governor of the state are you kidding me. An absolute. He's dying is what this guy is but but instead deflected all the blame to trump inroad a book to profit off this of his terrible moose management of this virus. I don't get it myself. I really don't get it the worst. We've seen the know what it's exposed. Rip the band aid off all our problems. We've seen the worst of the worst people. You're right it's look at tyrants where was it. Oh in in toronto. They arrested a restaurant owner. Because they're in a lockdown. I saw that. And they drag this man. We'll see the horses cops. No i didn't see if they in the mountain heard the cops dragging the guy away the audio of it and people saying what are you doing. This is in and they did the shame thing like they did. In game of thrones as they walk the guy out the one guy zelin. Shame shame but they arrested that poor guy. I felt so badly for it was horrifying here. You are trying to make a living you know. Put food on the table for your family and you get arrested. Because it's a lockdown. Let's face it candidate is way more socialist than we are. I mean they just are so it was easier to do something like this because it state control true. But he couldn't. Could you not see that happening here in a heartbeat. Absolutely not in florida. But i could see it happening here. I could see it happening in new york and an can you imagine if you had this like this guy had a barbecue place like a barbecue place on fifth avenue. They said we refused to close and kept on serving people like at the sidewalk. All i could see the cops going in there and arrest in this guy dragon amount and making a spectacle of it. Jen de blasio. This is no joke. I'll show you the video de sent out spies with binoculars and telescopes looking into windows to make sure people weren't gathering jewish households as math gathering religious gathering spicy. Didn't they just win the whole The the religious community. Didn't they win the lawsuit in new york city that they can It's you can't touch us. Supreme court decision. It was like sorry because they got by the way. What wedding has seven thousand guests. That's why i want to know. They had a wedding a jewish wedding where they had seven thousand guests. I'm thinking new. Paid that tab But that's what started this. And then they were gonna try to arrest people and they were saying they're gonna walk them down again and shutdown temples and synagogues and everything else and now not going to happen so they suit but they sued the city and based on the supreme court decision. They ended up winning. So de blasios. Can't touch him. But i mean that's crazy i. It's so horrifying. We've seen so much so many rights trampled it. You know we. I always make fun of the catholic church. You know catholic. I of all catholic. I went catholic. School the whole nine yards and i make fun of the catholic church on many occasions and now willingly admit that however when times get tough. Where's the first place. I go to church and i'll go by myself on a wednesday afternoon when there's nobody there and if somebody came in and drag me out and told me i couldn't be there and but the you could go to a liquor store. Oh i can go to walmart go to public servant anything the the this has been such a joke. It had absolutely as it can't be worse than the 'cause they've said that from the get go and they have. It's you're right. Santa con cancelled to by the rain. I enjoy look look watching the pictures and the videos from santa com. That's where thousands of people dressed up as santa claus and they go bar hopping in new york and it's nothing but a drunk fest. I understand that. They hope they rebel and do it anyway. Santa can't stop us. stop us. Covert free man. we have magical powers In the news. This is going to be big today. I think it starts at nine o'clock art. Nine o'clock western time. I can't remember but it's arizona. Today press the arizona legislature will be involved with this like pennsylvania but a little bit deeper looking at voter irregularities in voter fraud election fraud voter fraud bow. It's going to be big today. Can only hope because he tried to stop them from certified can only hope somebody finally opens their eyes and says this has got to stop georgia's been a mess back and forth presidents announced. I guess a rally is going to happen on this coming saturday braley. They're not. I don't know exactly what town it's going to be. I don't know if it's in atlanta itself. I think a little bit outside interesting and we've got now foreign trump rallies. I'd like you to take a listen to this is what is that gen. That's the sound of tokyo trump. rally all five of them but still still who has a rally for trump japan trump rally in tokyo biden could get five people in Polke that's hysterical. Mazing signs remarking a really now is trump's to look like trump and foreign languages. I guess right as i said trump and then was it saying underneath. Oh i don't know what they were saying. That's funny though good for them. He should re tweet that. I love my tokyo. Trump's they have fair elections over there is is a fraud he really should you really should. That'd be a great thing for him to now Don't forget about this. It cyber monday deals online. Especially this year they say yeah and and they say okay. If you're looking for a deal They say some of the best deals will be travel. So if you're looking to go away somewhere now's the perfect time to join in. Don't wait for something tonight. Like if you see tv or you know a stereo system or soundbar or whatever it is you want airpods. Don't wait till tonight. Because they may be sold out into certain store. Now here's the gotcha whether it's today or up until next week. Make sure if you're shopping online and give you a big hint here do it. Before december eleven want december eleventh is the day that they are anticipating distributing. The covid vaccine. Oh really ups. Fedex united states postal service. All delivery services have priority with the vaccine. So that means you're package gets bumped in that interesting. And i do know as of i think it was last night. I forget how hundreds of thousands of doses are sitting at o'hare airport. They've already started shipping them so they're sitting in an airport waiting there in cold storage at o'hare got a massive shipment yesterday. They're sitting there. So if they're at o'hare that means jfk there at miami international there at all the big airports across the country. And they're just waiting. It's pfizer just waiting for the fda to say go and then they'll distribute it. That's incredible at least you know. Give pfizer credit. They're getting these vaccines out and waiting just for the approval which they assume they're going to get well. Can we take this for granted to have a vaccine. Nine months is absolutely incredible. This is probably the equivalent of our moonshot in nineteen sixty s honest to god. You're right this is a medical miracle. I'm just go back and look at how long it took them like. you know. granted you're gonna say well technology. Today's better it makes no difference technology or not. It's the red tape you to get through. That's what it is anything approved. The accomplishment was getting this through the fda unheard okay. I'll give you. That's not happening without trump. Sorry catholics which is that. Big red any biotic that the give everybody comes to the big red pill if you have any soft tissue like your finger gets caught and you get an infection. They'll give you catholics catholics. I used to use my horses forty years ago. Eight took foot like thirty years for that to go from animals being used on animals to being used on humans. And that's something that was proven animals to be extremely effective. Oh yeah so. I mean if it took that long for a little antibiotic granted. Catholics does great things but still. That's eight now. The app i wanna say the average times probably five years. Yeah it was a miracle we got this done in cro anyway. December eleventh is when it's expected to be shipped so outstanding Let's make sure this doesn't happen again. Let's not have mike tyson in another old dude in the ring We tried it now. Good well he even said it didn't he. Yeah okay so. It was a joke to him. It seems well you turn what we're learning is it turned into a giant advertisement for pot. That's it for him. We'll tell you why and trump's raging against the election fraud. We've got that and he's got a strong ally in the senate now. We'll talk about that. It's all next these florida morning. Show this bill. Thanks a lot coming up. Top of the hour has got it all for you. These photos morning show. There's janna bill and carries news at seven o'clock sharp. Speaking of vaccines by the us deal. Good news there. You said there Pretty much set to deliver but one of them is having some problems Yeah you know what we were. We got the pfizer one. And you got madonna vaccine. Those two are waiting approval now. Pfizer's already shipped to major airports across the country. That's awesome astra. Zeneca came out last week instead. Ours is ninety five percent effective. We're looking to do this and that. I'll apparently they just hit a major major flaw. It was a mistake in their trial. Data They say it's going to interfere with the approval process. Apparently in some of the cases people were given a partial dose instead of the full dose and there are other irregularities in the trial studies is so now they they they say that's probably gonna push astrazeneca back bad news for them. Yeah but thank god. We've got the other two companies. I mean you know it's great. Yeah and and we'll look at adviser visors already on top of it. Shipping worshipping him. I love that. He's the one that needs the super cold. Yes but that's the one shot now. Two shots at his to the to the one shot. But they haven't as far as i know they haven't ship. They've only talked about shipping pfizer. Those vaccines are being kept at airports. Where they they were shipped in dry ice so they could stay at seventy below zero. Like i don't know if you can have your choice to be honest with you. But i think i'd rather go with them during one. It sounds like down the road when things are more normal. It's going to be more accessible. The shot yeah. I'm with you because well we had the when we have the doctor on neck. Cats from hollywood regional. He said that The first shots pretty well coverage in the second. It's a booster. It's kind of like memories to get a booster shot. Yeah we need a booster. What's a booster boost. The effectiveness so i i would assume just to make sure the one hundred percent you gotta get the second shot. Yeah i guess i don't know. President trump got a shot in the arm from senator rand paul last night that tonight's to have he could use all the friends you can get now because let's face it. The gop is what's the word i'm looking for spineless So for this guy to help him out is a big deal says he fully believes president. Trumps election fraud claims which was big. He did they take a countdown They probably know but they put the warning label on it okay. I'm surprised they didn't suspend him yet. We know what was amazing. We didn't cover this. Because of course it happened after we get off the air but the pennsylvania state hearing but they had all the state legislators and they all that they had geno ls and they had Giuliani and all those witnesses. Dozens of them. So that colonel. I think it's master master and master. Forget his last name. Whatever it is the guy the main guy who put together the state senator. Twitter took his personal account away. Not for anything. He tweeted because he helped the hearing. Are you kidding. They took his account. Oh jeez yes. But they don't censor anybody who the hell are. They got back. They had to fight. It took days. That's crazy but that resident Went off yesterday late. Morning and maria barreda romo show Saying things like this total fraud and how the fbi and department of justice. I don't know they're involved but how are allowed to get away with. This stuff is unbelievable. This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud Yeah wow and what. I loved about the whole thing. He was kinda rambling on. It didn't go into specifics. Kind of made the case that the whole thing is rigged blasted the media. We don't have freedom of the press in this country we have suppression by the press. Press you know you can't have a scandal. Nobody reports about it. This is the greatest fraud in the history of our country from electoral standpoint. And i think most people agree with this lays rasmusen poll forty seven percent. That's democrats and republicans forty seven percent of the electorate believes there was fraud involved. And if you can't have that that's incredible. And then the other fifty two three percent think. Trump's at turkey probably. I don't know that's about it. You know what it is. It's it's i. I dropped my. I thought of you all week. Because i dropped. Many friends on facebook should get rid of him. I'm done with the low information. They do nothing for your life. What comes inclusion. I try to stay off facebook because it depresses me. That's what i did. Yeah it's birthday reminders. In is where. I store my pictures. That's what facebook is good for us so true. Make make a very valid point. Did you see this. Live mike tyson. Now we had to buy it. Yeah was paper. That's why didn't either. is it. Like one hundred bucks to watch something like that that was. I'm not even sure Fought against roy jones junior and saturday. It was a draw okay but it really turned into one giant ad for mike. Tyson's pot far ahead to join. Yeah absolutely coming down well listen. I can't stop smoking. I says smoke during fight is after smoke. He looks good though it looked good. He said he's it doesn't. It doesn't numb the pain. Gnomes him all right. I'm thinking how much pain does this man have all the fights he's said my goodness so it was. I don't even know who this. Roy jones junior guy. I hit to lose. D did not look as good but snoop dogg. Had the line of the night. I guess he was one of the commentators. Yeah so if you paid the one hundred bucks for the pay per view you got some gyms like this joe. You're still cucuta. It's great thank you snoop. She will my uncle's fighting at the barbecue. Perfect wow hey we could everywhere by the way. Snoop dogg speaking of celebrities. We got a couple of them standing up against lockdowns. What yeah two big names to. What is this a thing turning around. The anti lockdown song has arrived. Got that what else trump had said in the arizona. Press conference should be big dance next yourself. South florida morning. Show this gin. 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Maria Bartiromo: Life Lessons From a Financial TV Icon

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Maria Bartiromo: Life Lessons From a Financial TV Icon

"Hiscox, America's number one online business insurer supports women, entrepreneurs everywhere and is proud to sponsor secrets of wealthy. Women. Get a quote at his Cox dot com. His Cox business insurance experts. I'm Maria Bartram. Oh, I am an anchor and journalist at Fox News and FOX business have got three shows morning with Maria on the FOX business network Sunday morning futures on Fox News channel and Maribor. Traumas Wall Street on FOX business. You just have to be there. Do your job. You know, be tough know your stuff, I made a promise that I would own the job and know, it better than anybody. And that's something that I think everybody needs to do it definitely has gotten better. But you know, you see the number of CEO's in the C suite today versus men were still a major minority. So we're getting there. But we're not there yet. This is secrets of wealthy women from the Wall Street Journal, helping women empower themselves financially now Veronica dagger Maria. Borrow Romo is an award winning TV journalist and anchor of the FOX business network and Fox News the first reporter broadcast live daily from the new York Stock Exchange. Sure reveals how a decades long career in television has shaped her view of money and success Maria you worked as a coat check girl when you were young youngster. What you learned from that experience. I learned a lot while it was my father's restaurant there. X men are in Brooklyn. And I was the coach girl we would have weddings and bar mitzvahs and parties I learned how to deal with people. I learn service the service business, and it's important. I think in all assets of business to understand your customer. So I learned how to deal with the customer or how to be effective with the customer. I was young. But I definitely ler. Learn some very good lessons about work, and I use those lessons throughout my career. I heard you got fired from kleinfeld when you were sixteen years old. Would you tell us about I did all I had a great little job after school? I was the I was the stock girl at kleinfeld department store kleinfeld wedding shop, and it was just a few blocks away from my house in bay ridge Brooklyn, and my job was to go into the rooms after the bride's tried on all of the dresses and bring the dresses back to the stockroom. And you know, they were really heavy dresses. So it was it was a hard job as a kid. But what I would do was I was always dreaming of my own big white wedding. So before I took the dresses back to the stock room. I would try on the dresses and cut me in trouble. And so my boss walked in on me three times. And on the third time. She said to me go home, you're not serious about this job. So there were so many beautiful dresses that I would say, and I was always alone in the stock room. So it put the dress on the veil on check it out. And then I would undress and bring this the dresses back to the stockroom but my bus kept booking on me. It was such a sad day. I cried all the way home. I remember walking home crying. I can't believe I fired, but I learned so much from that experience. Do your job. I was expected to bring the dresses back to the stock room. And I wasn't doing it in an efficient manner. I was trying on the dresses drew me about my own wedding. So do your job. It's the basic lesson for anybody in work. It's you were the first to report live from the floor of the new York Stock Exchange on a daily basis. How did you cope with some men's resistance to that? Well, I, you know, elbowed back. You know, I definitely felt that they were a lot of friends and allies who wanted me down there motion portly. The CEO dick Grasso wanted to you know, demystify what was going on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange. So he allowed us down. There allowed need to be on the floor. But it was really new to all involved, and it was new to obviously the men on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange and they were in their own bubble. They were doing their trades and doing their work, and they didn't want first of all women in their face. And certainly a reporter with a camera. So part of me understood where their anger was coming from. But I think what I mostly did was I tried not to be in. Everybody's faces. I tried to leave when they asked me to leave. But I always came back, and I always try to get as much information as it could out of them. So that I could communicate it to the public. I remember one time. I was I had heard that my boss Jack Welsh who was the CEO of General Electric GE owns. NBC was coming down to the floor of the new York Stock Exchange, and I thought, wow, what a great break for me. I'm going to be able to be the one to show Jack around and tell them everything that goes on down here about GE's stock, and I had met George who was the specialist GE's stock and George really took me under his wing when I first got there. He showed me where the order flow was coming from where the big buyers were told me how he did his job as the market maker bringing buyers together with sellers for GE. So I thought this is great Jack is coming down next week. I'll go over to George and I'll ask George if he can tell Jack everything he told me about where the order flow is and stuff I said, you know, Jack's gonna love this. This is great. And I get to be the one to do it. So one day it was a quiet day. And I walked over to the post of GE, and it was only like, I don't know twenty five guys or so in earshot and George didn't look busy at all. They were just standing there watching the market and I walked over. And I said George to tell him about Jack. And one of the guys in the crowd. Mike Robbins was his name may he rest in peace. He's he's passed. But he sits me go home. We're in along. This is not your business. This is not going to go on your little TV show during big business here. And I was so mortified, and you know, how that feeling is when you get knots in your stomach, you don't know what to say got twenty five people watching me waiting for a response. So I just. Strengthened looked at him and said don't speak to me that way, and I turned around, and I basically ran away. I mean, I left, but the point is I came back and I kept coming back. And I went back to George later that day everybody felt so bad for me. They knew how mortified I was the problem with Mike Robbins was I later learned Mike was on the board. Mike was a really important player. He had his own Tudela broker business. He was the biggest trader in GE and everybody was afraid of him for the next several years. Every time I passed Mike Robbins, he said something to undermine me. Usually it was save your money. Like, you're not going to go anywhere. You better save your money. And so I just took it, and I just kept going, and I did not wanna get into a tangle with Mike Robbins. Because like I said he was a big boss. Everybody knew him. And I knew that you know, he wasn't a fan later that day when he yelled at me on the floor. I called up digress. When I said, you know, this is not right. You allowed me to come down. Here. Why am I getting harassed by these people in front of everybody? I'm so embarrassed. What he did to me? He said, okay. Maria come up after the show, and I want you to talk to Mike Robinson person. Okay. Went up to Dick's office. I sat there needed knee with Mike Robbins and for fifteen minutes. All he did was belittle me. Look, I've never seen you little TV show. But stay out of my way, don't come around here. My business is not your business. It will not go on your little TV show, we agreed to disagree. I left and then like I said for years kept undermining me throwing little lines. My way one day the market was crashing. It was after the dot com, boom and bust I needed to get on camera right away. I needed to used to walk around the building just not to pass my job. I did not want to hear his comments. So one day. I had to get to my spot. I walked by him as usual. He said the same thing to me, save your money. The market was plummeting. I turn. Earned around to him. I said, no you see your money. And I thought yes, I got him back. That's great. And so I walked to my spot. I did my shot. Everything was fine. It really wasn't. Because he kept undermining me and be literally me for years and every time I was talking to any traitor that guy would get blasted. So it was really ruining my credibility as well. So it was a really tough situation. All I did was I sucked it up. I kept going. I tried to ignore him. But he didn't want me there years later fast forward. Mike Lavin's left the floor of the new York Stock Exchange. I was so happy when he left because I had that, you know, off my back years later, I was invited to a dinner for Goldman Sachs. I went to the dinner with Bob Hormats vice-chairman, then the vice chairman of Goldman, we're at this beautiful restaurant Danielle in Manhattan, I'm having an ice time. Eating all these Goldman sources, I'm making more sources on Wall Street all of a sudden corner of my eye, Mike Robbins, walks in and I'm thinking, oh my God. Mike, roy. Albans is here he obviously trades with Goldman lemme just backpedal out here. I'm trying to leave the party. I just wanna get out of dodge. I don't wanna see the sky next thing. He taps me on the shoulder Maria. It's Mike Robbins said oh, Hello. How are you? He said Maria, I want you to know. I'm sorry. I Harris jewel those years. I still haven't seen your little TV show. But I like you calm and business week magazine. You're doing a good job, and I thought. Wow. And I felt so good about it. I said, you know, what Mike it's fine. Thank you for saying that let's forget the whole thing. I'm happy to just shake your hand. And that was that. And I came away from that experiencing. You know, what things can be tough things can be tough for a woman a man's world. There's no doubt about it. But you have to make sure you know, your stuff you have to make sure you own the job. And that's what happened with me. And Mike Robbins, Mike Robbins, intimidated me so much that I knew that. If I didn't know my stuff backwards and front words. I was not getting by. I was not getting any credibility any respect down here on the floor. So it just made me stronger. But there's no doubt that women. Do have in many cases, a harder path when you're in a man's world. Do you think it's gotten any easier since I think it has particularly on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange. There were more women there. There are more women traders. And certainly I'm proud to say there were many more women, a female reporters, I helped you certainly open that path for for women to go on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange now, I used to tell my assistance at the time don't show up with these little outfits short skirts and anything to get them looking at you. And pure peering over you, just you just have to be there. Do your job. You know, be tough know your stuff. The best thing that happened to me. As a result of Mike Robbins is I made a promise that I would own the job. And no it better than anybody. And that's something that I think everybody needs to do in their own in their own careers. It def. Has gotten better. But you know, you see the number of CEO's in the C suite today versus men were still major minority. So we're getting there. But we're not there yet. I think a lot of women just get fed up and and leave. Well, I think so too. I mean, it is hard. You know, another guy seldom Clark who. Oh my God. He was just horrible during the during the selloff in stocks. He came up behind me. He didn't like me talking about AIG. I guess he was invest. He was trading. A I g and he was on the buy side. And I was doing a story that was negative about something that was in the Wall Street Journal that day on a I was outside the ahe post. What does he do? He had this hand held machine. It's about the size of a mini I pad, but it's thick. It's not thin like an ipad very thick. And that's he it was a handheld. So he was walking around the floor putting trades in his hand held. I'm on the I'm in front of the post of AI g he comes behind me n fans into me. And the metal ipad thing goes into my back. Hurt. My I was live on air. I was like, whoa. I got off the air. I realized what had happened. I called my boss. I had to go to medical at the new York Stock Exchange. I had to have a sick day the next day because you really hurt me. I mean, people really it was a big change to have reporters on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange, and I can't underestimate. I can't overestimate that enough because people don't realize the big change that happened. When women started having a bigger presence on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange, it really was a boys club. And there were a lot of people who did not want me there. I have to give kudos to dick Grasso. He knew that the world was changing that individual investors were investing in one information. He knew that there was the huge individual investor empowerment movement. He wanted to demystified and he wanted me down there to to help him do that. But there certainly was a strong group that didn't want that at all. Coming up Maria, borrow mo- talks about how an established career has prepared her for the evolving media landscape. His Cox, America's number one online business. Insurer supports women, entrepreneurs everywhere, and it's proud to sponsor secrets of wealthy women. Get a quote at his Cox dot com. His Cox business insurance experts. Nor listening to secrets of wealthy women from the Wall Street Journal. You've said you live your life in fish ball. How do you not let the mean comments her EU? Well, it's a good question because the truth is it is hurtful, and I I can't say doesn't hurt because you know. I mean, something has happened to our society where all of a sudden, it's okay to go on Twitter and go on, you know, Facebook a wherever and just start hurling insults at people and just start having opinions. That's hurtful. There's no doubt about it. But I've gotten to as situation or a position where I believe in myself. And I believe in what I'm doing. I am a journalist through and through and I will always seek the truth. And I know the truth hurts for some people. So I just you know know, that you can't really believe the real positive press on the way up, and you can't really believe the negative press on the way down. And if someone. Takes shot at me. Believe me there have been eighteen times when I called Kaley in public relations. And I said Kelly, I'm answering this person. And I'm going to say this that and this and she's Maria don't calm down. Relax. This too will pass because my first instinct is to just, you know, give them the business. So I can't say it doesn't hurt. It is hurtful all I can do is try to learn from every comment. Take a step back and say, wait a second. Is there any truth to what this person is saying do I need a lesson? Am I learning something from this? If it's just bluster because that person doesn't like the truth will then that's their problem, not mine. So I try hard to ignore anything like that. Plus, I have a fantastic audience who is rooting for me and my viewers. No what I'm trying to do. And they support me. So I've got that too. So sometimes with the negative comments come comes the support from my viewers, and that I appreciate so much. What do you say to people who say you've become too political? Well, I say look everything is political. I'm sorry. Look when I was at CNBC for twenty years, I did not need to study policy. I did not need to study politics. I spent my days looking at corporate balance sheets and the stock market and I learned a ton. I spent my days building out CNBC across the world going to Europe Asia all these places to try to build a CNBC brand. That's what I was focused on when I left one of the reasons I left is because I felt that there was too much of a focus on the stock market. Frankly, nobody looks at the stock market in like an issue of the day and says, well, what is the stock going to do when there's something important happening. They're saying, well, who's impacted how my impacted you know, that's what they're folks they're not looking at what's the stock market. So one of the reasons I left CNBC was because I wanted to expand my portfolio, and I can honestly tell you in the last five years, I have grown. I've. Grown incredibly. I feel more informed today than they ever have been and that's because of studying policy and politics. So today, you see Donald Trump the Republicans Democrats the fight between them on every channel in every newspaper. It's become much more political today policy, really matters. So I've studied policy and its impact I've studied politics, and I'm reporting on it. And I'm talking about certain things that yes, maybe our political. But that's because that's what's in the news. And what's top of mind? Also, I do feel like when it comes to certain subjects. I have been around thirty years at this point. And I do have an opinion on certain things. I actually understand what tax policy means to economy. And I understand what deregulation means to an economy. So I've become less afraid to say, you know, what cutting those regulations actually move the needle on growth. So that's being political. I'm sorry. But i'm. Reporting. What's accurate, and what's happening in the news today? So I guess that's my answer to that about five years ago, you signed her contract with FOX added that change your financial life. It did change my financial life of the Asli, but I've always been following certain principles to try to create wealth. And so over my career at CNBC, and at FOX, I've always tried to come up with the right principles to understand how to save and how to build long-term wealth. I heard you still got up at three in the morning to get ready for your show. Why are you still working so hard? I love what I do. And I I wanna win. And I know that in order to win it requires hard work. I mean, I know that better than anybody. And I want to have my shows be successful. We're celebrating some records on all my shows actually Sunday morning futures mornings with Maria. And and these Wall Street, and it's very competitive. Live. So that's why I worked so hard. And also I'm lucky because I love what I do. I love my job. And I love I'm having the most intellectually stimulating conversation. I've ever had right now. What type of investor are you? I'm a long term investor a big saver. I've I learned from an early age to save my money. I have a 4._0._1._K, and I have an IRA I have retirement accounts. And I set it up in exchange traded funds. ETF's I think that that's the best way you can get diversification in the stock market. I also have also been very cognizant of the fact that along my career, I interviewed all types of CEO's, and I never wanted to own any of their stocks for conflict reasons, obviously. So the only stocks have ever owners GE my husband's company and FOX and I own ATF's. 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Vice Presidential Debate Recap; Pence Methodically Beats Kamala Harris; President Trump Says No To Virtual Debate; New England Patriots Game On Schedule; NFL's Handling of the Latest Outbreaks

The Gerry Callahan Podcast

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Vice Presidential Debate Recap; Pence Methodically Beats Kamala Harris; President Trump Says No To Virtual Debate; New England Patriots Game On Schedule; NFL's Handling of the Latest Outbreaks

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From the Democrats out there who are just looking to make excuses for their girl Kamala Harris will get into all that and the latest on the Patriots. Team coverted see how team Kobe's holding up and we'll tell you why Santa Saturday night live booted. It's musical guests kicked him off. The set said get lost. We don't need you anymore. It's incredible We're getting all that with that turtle boy in Coenen on today's Callahan Broadcast Callahan podcast brought to you by DC you digital federal credit. Union. Why do DC DC remembers their checking accounts? It's simple no monthly minutes fees no minimum balance no. Strings attached what's better as a with direct deposit to their free checking accounts DC you members can get paid up to two days early zero monthly maintenance fees zero monthly balanced zero reasons not to switch till even remove the hassle of switching your direct deposits and automatic payments from your current checking learn more and make the switch today at DC. You Dot org slash free checking issued by NC you a membership required I I gotta give Turtaboi Credit. Right off the bat you've been saying for weeks at pence was gonNA come big that he's an underrated, very good debater I agreed to an extent but I also was afraid that he would be a little too stiff and a little too stayed and wouldn't. Take her apart. I was wrong. You Right. He destroyed her it was wonderful to watch. except I do have this reservation as I watched the whole time I say. Is. There any way he can you know like be president? Now. Joe Biden next week just. I want him to be president. He's a perfect vice-president just do the debates just got us there. That's all. He doesn't have to be president. Okay. Can you just debate Biden next week? 'cause you know trump's a little bit under the weather if you're just waking up or just tuning in, they just announced that the second debate next week between Biden trump will be virtual, which means I'm just GonNa Start Right. Here's his well we're going to say immediately after it's over and the next morning Biden was cheating Biden was cheating he will have notes he'll have help you'll have teleprompters love coaches yup. I mean they're not there too or just the audience isn't there or not. There it is virtual are zooming. He's back. He's back in the basement back in the basement. Trump agreeing to these rules it's a good question I I'm done blaming the moderators and I mean obviously last night you had another hard left liberal moderator a woman that just wrote a book a glowing hagiography about Nancy Pelosi that was the moderator they picked last night was Mike Pence. He's the only one asking real questions right and we'll get to that because he did a beautiful job of ignoring the questions. It's something you know what aid obviously I was happy with his performance he was terrific he destroyed her we will prove. It then everyone knows he destroyed her by some of the reactions from the left at who are focusing on You know the fly and the fact that pence when over his time every time he answered the question in other excuses they made for Kamala, including sexism and racism in we'll get to those things. But as I'm watching I'm thinking this is trump paying attention to this because this is how you it you were right man he knows how to do it if you don't get your ins-. Answer in if you don't. Say, everything you have to say, just wait till the next question, ignore the question and use your time to go back and answer the last question. It was masterful Y- is Great. For because. A lot of people afterwards said, well, he spoke more than her show. The official time had spoken three minutes less than our reclose. Please please please please it. He's like I'm just gonNA keep talking anyway because I know how you people are he it's like he knows the same things trump does he can just same a smooth adult Indiana hoosier way you know he's very comforting the way he speaks and you watched it and you're like, okay when he's in the same room as Donald Trump, there's an adult in the room at seemed like. An. Next say was under the weather still having side effects or whatever relapse from Colbert. Not Not. Like Herman Cain. Cut a relapse but just a little bump in the road. And they need to do something with that night. Everything's offset the debate set if penn stepped in, he would absolutely destroyed. Consider this. You know you do that sports all the time that you know. APPALACHIA state Michigan beat Michigan Michigan beat in this team and Wisconsin Wisconsin beat Ohio state. Consider this he she beat Biden badly in the primary last fall I mean embarrassed them called them racist a sexist everything else. He just destroyed her if he were to debate biden tonight somewhere it would be a uncomfortably one-sided and wonderful to watch and yet were stuck with watching trump you know. It a rip him for his frigate Class rank and law school. It's just discouraging to know that we're done with my pets. I enjoyed it Mike Wonderful job. Maybe you did your part maybe you know you'll win in three weeks four weeks maybe not but you did what you had to do. You did all you could ask of. Not only by the way did force her. You don't ask to answer questions that mattered like court pecking or not answered which the again the monitoring not let up though that like. She asked about she her he asked her about core packing and she came in with four score and seven years ago when Abraham Lincoln. Ellen forget history and she just wouldn't answer her finally answer to that question was well, he didn't appoint any black judges that doesn't the question. In pence would not. Because she did not answer the question he kept saying pence knew that he could go right back to her racist actions as is dam prosecutor I. Don't think that's a winning issue talking about criminal justice reform but I do think he nailed her on that she was like I mean. The other thing he did beautifully that trump doesn't understand and there's a lot of things. He's a much much much better debater than Donald Trump. But he also led her you know hang herself at times which trump has to do it biden and you focus if you're you know if you're watching. On TV you your is because he's kind of. In A. He doesn't have a lot of expressions not very animated. Your eyes turned to her and she rolls her eyes shakes her head or fake laughs. She is so phony and cringe-worthy. I mean if you don't have the sound on in fact, my TV on right now no sound and you look at her, you cringe whether you are rooting for not. If you're if you're watching on facebook right now. Turtle was one of his imitations. Face shoes making last night the condescending. It was the worst possible fish you can make did anybody prefer it's like everybody's GonNa like anybody who was on the fence is washing this you'd like I'm not putting that woman anywhere near the reins of power. Right is that that's the goal. If you're pens the goal, the big goal, the macro goal is to. Make people ask that question. Do I wanna see her at the top of the ticket I WANNA see her in the Oval Office because we all know Joe Biden's not long for the job. We all know he's just a front man for this radical left Cabal and pence. Every chance. He got made that clear. She's the most liberal member of the Senate. She's more liberal than Bernie Sanders. She's right up there with C. and and Anna Presley all the nut jobs in the squad and they'll be a big part of the administration. She'll be the president you know within what a year over under a year maybe a year and a half the holds on but eventually she'll be the president you want that mean girl that that that that won't you want her as your President America, are you kidding smiling smiling of with the smiling represents to is that like You're so stupid and I'm just so smart you get it and like I'm just I'm laughing at you that's why I'm smiling because the things you're saying right now is so stupid and like you're not, you don't even get it. We talk to you didn't read vox this morning. Did you read? On it. That's the way he comes across. Here's what she is your teacher former teacher. And I know. Until you made the moves and some your female students whereas. Give me a break. soulmate fake news fake news fake but you know this better than anyone. I have a vague memory of it. Put the that girl in the front that everybody hated that we know. If. You answer the question wasn't right. Should roller is a fake laugh or flipper hair back and you just couldn't stand her didn't matter if she was attractive her personality was just such a turnoff. She is one of them. She's a mean girl inches ingram and and you look at her and you saying just I don't I feel bad for her husband although he went on stage after. With a mask or a tool bag, what? into a bag. Oh, my God. He kissed her with that thing on probably I would with the mask on and same thing I'm wife same thing. These people someone drilled into the head that you can never do anything when a mask because we're we're the mask people they're the anti massacres we wanted to have a dividing line there. So He's And maybe maybe he just didn't want to kiss her I don't know but I feel bad for the man I can't imagine living with this woman this mean girl and and looking at that face with the role in is the fake laugh shaking her head and I know pence has no You know animation to ocean, which is good in this was such a contrast, but it is the question of the night. Do you want to see her in the Oval Office and I don't think too many people say yeah I want I want watch her state of the Union addresses and press conferences. That's the most were her right because there's not a second vice presidential debate, right? Yeah. So the only the only VP debate every focus group that you went and saw everyone on CNN MSNBC they'll all say that pence just absolutely dominated her but oh CNN. But like focus groups everyone came out saying that pence won that debate. But the only thing the headlines say is a fucking fly was on his head like crazy a fly ended this the interrupting the man spinning is on twitter you know like Here's here's the thing he didn't interrupt. He didn't at least not like trump and lot not like biden does in every debate did the same thing Paul Ryan as you as you pointed out, he just didn't listen when Susan Page Nancy Pelosi's geographer when she tried to Vanni said I'm not done any finished his point that's all it didn't appear rude it didn't appear like he was breaking the rules he just finished his point and it was perfect. That's what trump has to do don't appear like you're walking all over everybody just finish your point and finished with an exclamation point and that's what by. Pence, did we got? We got breaking news here for our facebook audience trump says he ain't doing it virtually. He said that on. Good for him up just now on Fox business with Maria but aroma said, it's a waste of time to have. A virtual debate, it's not acceptable to him. I am not going to do a virtual debate. which is good Chris that's what I wanna see I wanNA see me Alvin he'll probably agree to it but. but you want to think that somehow the Republicans trump team understands that the system is rigged that the debate commissions a bunch of Liberals Rhinos, and that's why you get Susan Page and that's why you get that Franken asshole Chris Wallace is because the Republicans always cave and just give in and I don't care what he agrees to in the end just show some fight I'll I liked that show some fight and you know what else? You have to Donald Preparation you get another week, watch this over and over again and learn learn from your from your running mate. That's how you do it. You you get to your point you don't you just take your time. You got an hour and a half. You Got Thirty eight minutes to speak who whatever it is get to your point. But you knew pence was going to get to certain things and he did whether it was. Whether he had to move on from a climate change by the way can I ask you guys a question every time they say with Word Climate Change Jerry I. think a you can't help what? I know I'm old. I WanNa live long enough to see a debate between somebody anybody governors, mayors. Councilmen presence a debate that doesn't talk about climate change. Why do to talk about came up in before question Susan Page was not nearly as biased as Chris Wallace, but you show you to call you say. Vice President do you think it's an existential thing problem climate change and I wanted him to say. What does that even mean existential? You think we're all going to die. No, we're not all going to die for an we weren't all going to die Barack. Obama would not have bought a fifteen million dollar house ocean in you period even better Bill Gates. Forty three million dollar house on the water and he'll lecture from that house. Tell us how we're all going to die from climate change if we don't stop using. The idea that the last four months every time you turn on TV there's a riot in a burning like something terrible is happening and she just didn't bring it up. She just didn't bring it up and it was the biggest weakness of Kamala. Harris is the fact that she bailed these Douche bags out of jail. Running. And it was just not brought up nobody brought it up I'm like watching TV, which talking about climate change and like on a scale of one to ten. How much do you dislike China? I. Think I think. Tha Pence's base would have applauded if he said enough with the climate change, can we stop this nonsense and talk about real issues? I got a list of things they didn't get to, but it was amazing this regard the riding in Wisconsin was going on simultaneously if you're online and you were, you could see video of smashing windows and trashing stores in Wisconsin while the debate was going on, it would have been beautiful pence could have pointed that we writing over today. A COP didn't get convicted for shooting a black criminal and I it's you'll learn all about it today. It's a whole news thing and in a before we got any facts they were smashed windows they went to a suburban neighborhood. It's a, it's a suburb that went through the neighborhood smashing windows on people's houses. There's a couple of videos of people coming out and trying. To protect their property, it's you know it's again, it's the next front in the in this long war of ANTIFA and Biden supporters want order through quick. We climate cheese they actually asked us like are the hurricanes wetter she thinks the hurricane. Yeah. The water this time around and I'd like to point out the state that's burning right now you know Oregon and California. Does like the climate change states that the band straws and plastic bags? Why does have been fixed the state's burning? Then they are and all they have a crazy climate change alarmists in office governors, mayors, they're all. Senators the I mean it's a good question. I will give by I. Mean Pets Credit for this. He said the hurricanes are no worse now than they were a hundred years ago that's a fact. But most people are afraid to say it because you can't appear to be denier it's a religion it's like denying the existence of God you're looked at as a even a heretic and pence went as far as you could go. But I really want some candidate to say enough with this climate change can we move onto real issues and? You know what will happen next week. Then the virtual debate they'll ask about climate change in your happened in the last debate they'll ask about climate change it's just such a a a liberal talking point now, the get try to get the troglodyte Republican to not deny climate change and I'll give credit again by went as far as you could in saying it's nonsense let's talk about real issues but let's get to the things he left out again he won in a row he destroyed her he it was it was beautiful he curb stomped. Kamala Harris you know he did because on CNN and MSNBC as you saw this morning talking about sexism and racism and the fly. You know he won because they're sitting there making excuses excuses for their girl It's it's wonderful to watch I. Just was re Tweeden some of the mock Ruffalo saying I don't like that he talked. That's you know we talked to a black woman that way he's racist George Stephanopoulos I. Don't know if you've got that. Dave saying it's men S- planing add to you because obviously Mike Pence is a former television commentator does have a very calm demeanor but I think a lot of people were noticing some man's planning going tonight. I do see it. That Way George didn't come across. So he just means planned to that woman right about burning and she was like, Nah No. No you're. You're using the word wrong I. Mean I was watching Fox. Obviously in their panel, it's his left wing panel. As you will ever see ya CNN, they have one Williams Donna? Brazile Chris. Wallace. They have three Biden stooges three trump haters on a panel of like five. The other one Dana Perino she's neutral. They really have no. Troll Dana. She tries to be new to I would say yes. Dan Bash that's when I'm thinking of Anna. But whatever reason I guess Paul Ryan's making these calls at Fox or whatever one of the Murdoch Kids Lachlan one of them's a big liberal I don't know but they feel the need to stack the deck with liberals including Chris Wallace who called it a tie. which is no surprise. Call that a tie you look at that and you say it's a tie your liar you know that's that's a fact you're just a liar you are stay trumpeter and this has you know forget trump just look at the debate meant mental Amano it was a route and if you're if you're an honest person and honest analyst, you admit I mean we admit trump wasn't. Great last week against Biden. WHO's a WHO's a terrible terrible debater we all should admit that she dropped the ball. She was terrible and he killed her it was it was it was fun to watch. Also it's sexism racism and the fly and and pence broke the rules you know he's talked over the moderator and he didn't answer the questions. Those are all talking points today from the sore. Losers. Guess that he was the moderator. He was the only one asking the like I'm sitting at home. As soon as she said climate change. Here that word I think of you I just laugh I can't. Jerry's face right now smoke coming out of it. It's it's it's. A giveaway it's obvious giveaway that you're rooting for the Democrat talk about climate change its way to get you know again, this caveman to admit he doesn't care about climate change. And be we've heard it over and over and over again. Here's here's things that were left out and I partially blamed by pence could he had his chance at times to bring these topics up and didn't? And again he I guess he had a list and he got to most of it. But. He didn't really hammer her on a tif I mean he mentioned lawlessness, but he should have gone back to it. And the bail fund. The bail fund was a great issue She bailed out murderers, rapists, Shem Leicester's she personally gave money personally solicited money for the Minneapolis Freedom Fund to bail out the scum, the destroyed that city that's tangible. You know understandable that's something he should have brought up and in his own way articulated. To returnable because as we've seen with these bail funds, they don't just bail out the TV writers they bail out. Like in. Boston. Thing it was like a month ago I did a blog on a guy who is caught masturbating to fifteen year old girls in a Lynnfield parking lot and this is thing he's been arrested for this a billion times before you just goes around and he'll pleasure himself on your lawn. That's his that's his calling card and he got bailed out a white guy from melrose got bailed out. Well you know what he could have and Tucker's done this and others He could have had some names. Literally I mean he's smart. He's fairly you know he's loose cities not like trump not a loose cannon if he could had two or three names and said, what about this guy? This guy and this guy? What do you say about that center harass? You build out this guy he got out and immediately went home and beat up his wife or went home and molested a child and Frenette hurt said, do you feel any guilt about bailing out this scum that would have been a great line? Even if there were another vice president debate I would say he'll get to it this. Is it one shot only? fund the police she's on record, and so is tha. Biden saying they want to defend the police. The debate is going on as a riot is taking place more than one right by the way, the the the wonderful Orthodox Jews in New York are rising up and burning their masks, and for once I'm rooting for the mob I. Love these people they're like they're. Yesterday's rally they burning masks and they got trump flags and their singing songs and they get their hats on their. You know what? He called his sideburns and they're out there and they're like defiant as well, and they're like the the standard bearers for the first, amendment. I love these these folks in Brooklyn and good luck to them because pretty soon, Cuomo is going to send in the Brown shirts and they're gonNA start beating them. That's going to be a hell of a visual but. Why not defend the polices? Another really easy thing to understand for a voter for viewer, she wants to defend the police in the middle of Wallis anarchy. She wants to bail out the scum that's destroying they cities. And give it a cops. You know why didn't he go there and really emphasized that? He. Well it wasn't asked him for one. You can only answer the question. She was moderator is obviously rooting for a Kamala. She's not going to go there to about fracking Jerry. I don't even know what fracking is. I don't know, but it's a good issue because they've got to win Pennsylvania and. She's by the way allowed I didn't know what fracking was that. I didn't know what their opinion on fracking was only know is they found out afterwards that like during a town hall year ago she said she's against tracking this woman is allowed to just completely change your mind and but oh well how I would ask what you said this a year ago that you were against it run. Now you're saying for it seems as if you're just saying whatever you need to appeal to the audience in front of you at the moment you stand for anything. It's a great point because there are these fact checkers Muslim. Politic fact and snow, and they're all in the bag. They're all biden stooges. If there were immediate actual fashion objective media, it's the easiest thing to fact check she said over and over again, she wants to defend the police. And she was and she's against fracking. And you can literally in ten seconds I mean Hannity did obviously and Tucker, and Laura they'll do it on. Fox. No one else will because their guy didn't win the debate, but you can easily show the video I've seen it eight times already the video and color even call could find it of her saying she's against fracking and she's Ford to funding the police. There's no question An- favor of banning fracking. And you have Biden in his typically inarticulate way saying he's against fracking no more fracking and the and I'll give Susan page the moderator credit for this she said on your own website on the Biden Harris website. It says you believe in the green new deal and the green new deal is it the most radical proposal you'll ever see wants to eliminate fossil fuels, combustion engines, airplanes in wants to refit every building in America it's it's one hundred, trillion dollar plan. They're in favor of that, and he made that point over and over again, which was a good idea because I think any anybody, any normal human no normal human being wants to adopt the green new deal. It's insane. I mean. The beauty of them is that ultimately Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, what they represent is not a they represent typical. Cronyism and corporate backed. Democrats that's what they represent. They don't like the AFC wing of the Party and Jerry. That's why they won't. Indeed. But that's what they and they need it which is exactly why she refuses to answer the question about core packing because that's something that appeals to the Elizabeth, Warren wing of the crowd and the jobs and they need that wing. But they're ultimately adults at the end of the day believe it or not I didn't Kamala Harris adults and they know that they can't do that because the Republicans would do the same thing and they don't want to go down that road. So that's why I disagree she's not she's with. She's unimpressed. Come on. You the most liberal senator in the Senate. She's from California she is as liberal as they come. Jerry, she was a prosecutor. She's the definition of the establishment. She's a corporate stooge it. It's who she is. Now this is the established, his Democrat stem. Every Democrat is radical is no moderate Democrats anymore every Democrat wants to eliminate fossil fuels. Every Democrat wants to defend the police. It's kind of the the. Why? They don't. Miss signing on for this radical stuff because. They need the AO season, the IANNA Presley, and they know that's with the enthusiasm is if they don't get them to show up enthusiastically in both for a seventy eight year old racist than they lose I mean. It looks like they're they're going to win the polls. Don't look at that and they they if they turn awfully radical wing of their party, then people don't show up to people don't care. It's not easy to get excited about a mean girl and a man with dementia they have to engender the. Create some excitement and the way they create excitement just say we're going to get rid of fossil fuels. We're going to defend the police we're going to. Do, all these radical things by the way fracking and I don't understand it completely ease either. But I know the basics first of all, it's. It's Vania a big part of Pennsylvania's economy that aid. It decreases carbon emissions and be decreases dependence on foreign oil. Those are why it's such a great thing. It's a winning issue even though most people don't even know what it is it's Kinda regional. It, it decreases carbon emissions and it decreases your dependence on foreign oil on Saudi Arabia. You know that's a good thing. That's why we're energy independent fracking is a wonderful thing. It's. Just take oil and your FRAC it, you take the natural gas out of the out of the hillsides. Refined holes in the hillsides it's a great thing only radical nut jobs like AOL sear against it. Can we go this weekend? Is Anyone think AOL sell understands anyone? I think she she got her talking points their fracking. Bad. Allergies. Bad. Yes. That's all she needs to know. FRACKING's bad. 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We move on but that's an issue that I think people mainstream normal people are all in favor of and don't understand why the war Afghantistan started nineteen years ago yesterday nineteen frigging years ago. They actually talking about the Middle East they brought this up last night Shulami to me, which is like one of the best parts about the trump administration and she actually said because they can't say that Americans died there because we killed a terrorist then they told us all we're. Go to war, with Iran. And all they did was fire a missile, an American base in Iraq and zero Americans died and so last night she brings us up and she's like well, you guys killed Sulamani and then they fired us and guess what they'll headaches now. So good job. Like what like nobody died? It was a complete foreign policy success when you kill a major leader, bad bad bad bad guy and zero Americans die as repercussion that is an unmitigated success and she brought it up as some type of failure. These people are insane and by the way have they forgotten the Kurds? Jerry. Number the Kurds. The Kurds I think. They've been do they exist anymore because I was only Neo, Cons never-trumpers the only people that want to continue the analysts wars I mean, and I think there are Democrats want to continue endless wars because trump doesn't that's it anything trump's in favor of their against but it's a winning issue. It's a huge I, mean ninety percent of I don't know what the number is of of the public is one end. These endless wars don't want to be an Afghantistan. Another minute. So Donald Trump on moments like this needs to understand. He should look at his business card. It says right on there Donald J trump president. Commander in chief it's his call and the Damn Wars Donald don't. Pass it off on someone else just say we're coming home. If they you know have some general goes on CNN says it's it a responsible. You know there are people going to die in Luger whatever a Kabul who cares that's their that's not ours. We're done there. We did our best we gave trillions and we lost thousands of great Americans and soldiers and Marines. We're done there. It's my heart Jerry that's my that's. One of my favorite parts about having. Donald. Trump is president as a republican for the first time as he is talking about reimagined reimagined, what the Republican party can be we no longer have to be the part because I always felt uncomfortable with that even with like George Bush that I'm like I can't get behind this like we're GonNa, go and stabilize the Middle East like I care about the I always felt that I I was graft pretend that we don't have to defend that position anymore and it's great. And right and he can. He could say he was always against the Iraq war and Biden can't you know Biden voted for Hillary voted for these John Kerry, they all supported it and trump didn't and granted. He wasn't an elected officially wasn't forced to vote on it. But so what he's can say I against it it was a mistake i. mean it's a tough thing to say when you have thousands of Americans who've lost limbs and an is and I mean you know have post traumatic stress disorder and everything else but let's be honest if we could do it over again, we wouldn't. We. Get back to fracking. That's another reason. fracking is wonderful. If you don't depend on Middle East Oil, you have much less of a steak over there. You can turn your back on the region and if you're into. Geopolitics and the Middle East. Then trump's guy, he's got all these peace deals. Between Israel and all these Muslim nations. So when but I don't care about foreign policy near as much as I care about antifa burning our CD's down you and I disagree on one thing. I wanted. When she starts talking about trump cheating on his taxes, I want him to fire back with hunter. I think it's easy to understand I. Think people know what a crook hunter is. They know if you read up at all, you understand the scheme orchestrated by Joe Biden it's make his relatives rich because they don't have the same kind of scrutiny. there's not the same kind of laws that oversee hunter Biden Jane's Biden his brother everyone is family's gotten rich since he's been in office everyone except he pretends that he hasn't because he knows. That their rules for him but look at his brother, look at his kids they've all gotten rich. I like do you WanNa go there because then they can say, well, you know. This this trump kid made this deal with this businessman and this you really WanNa, go there. You think I just don't care about. The issue is China right and he hammered or good. It was good i. mean she she's not that bright she cheap brings up. The Middle East would, which is a winning issue trump. She brings up channel. It's not saying how we you lost jobs to China and pence to his credit. Kept his calm and just went through it. You know line-by-line said, here's what happened in China. I thought he was gonNA use trump's line of China will own Joe. Bud and it's true. I mean he does China he's on record saying they're not our adversary. It's a winning issue for trump and she brought it up I believe or she expanded on it and and that was just dumb. I mean she can't win on that and that issue and she didn't he hammered or on it was good. Is Great but like I said too bad I can't. It can't keep going on this and trump I've just been told trump is announced a rally is that correct is live world world we're living we're missing. I told that he's somebody just messaged me and said that correct me if I'm wrong that he's having a rally in place of the debate now. He's Ever I. It's it's big news. He says he's not gonNA. Do Virtual debate I don't know. Can you get the sound Dave? They said not gonNA waste time to individual. Why good at goes Yo you know this much when they announced it. When there's a bunch of Rhinos and Democrats announced that the commission debate commission. So that would be virtual. You Know Biden was thrilled and trump was not biden wants protection. Biden. Wants to pretend use the virus and pretend these being careful but he wants to avoid. Going head to head toe-to-toe with with trump even now, trump's not a great debater is not pants, but he is a wild Cardi is a Canon and by is obviously nervous about getting his head handed to. See I think. After, watching last night even more. And you've said it before but I don't think trump's going to have a great night. I don't think he's a great debater I. Don't think he's sharp enough I. Don't think he's quick enough on his feet. It. There is a big difference. There's a big difference. Pets knows what he's doing. He knows how to debate trump doesn't trump just thinks he can go up there. You know with Swagger and confidence and be loud and obnoxious and win the day 'cause that's generally how it works for him. You know he goes out and. Gives speech that's Kinda. Okay. But the crowd goes wild. Yeah. He's a great debater. Yeah and I'm down. I. Don't know how you feeling Jerry you down right now with these polls I mean I know the polls and they live there not. But these are devastating polls. Have you seen some of these? Yes. I have they're not good and I don't understand it. I can't believe people are voting for that woman you know. I mean people are voting for for you know the green new deal people are voting for radical left when he just ogle's Americans hate optimism. Now, all of a sudden I said this the other day if trump got The ripped them apart and twitter took down his tweet because he said that we're going to beat this. Basically that was his message is we're going to beat this. This isn't that bad we can beat this if Franklin Roosevelt had tweeted out in nineteen, forty one, we have nothing to fear but fear itself Jack Dorsey would censor him. They would have said we're under no new you Japanese Aggression. Hitler, there's the Holocaust is frigging you have polio you can't even stand they hate optimism and. They just want us to live in fear and I've quite frankly had enough and the worst part about Jerry is that most people agree with them that we are in the distinct minority it's another thing you're voting for if you both for Joe Biden and Kamala. Harris, you're voting again you're GonNa pray Oh see I. Anna Presley you're voting for the green new deal going to fund the police you voted for Antifa and you're voting for big tech censorship your back door. And Mark Zuckerberg and these, and these tyrants who are censoring everybody on on the right they're taking down videos as we pointed out before. A congressional candidate who might win Florida who doesn't even have email? She has no twitter no facebook. They've taken down the proud boys just because people on the left said those boys they're racist that group that's run by a black guy that has a bunch of Hispanic and black birds they're racist. So proud boys can't tweet but ANTIFA Ken. It's just so unfair. What with the polls? Jerry I'm like looking at these I'm sorry. This Quinnipiac poll that came out that says, Biden's up by eleven in Florida and Fourteen Penn State. I'm sorry if you do a poll like that and you have Biden up by eleven in Florida you throw the pull out like this is obviously something's wrong with this. Obviously, Biden is not going to win Florida by eleven points. There's not a thing. So when they put polls out like this though it just it gets in. People's heads. If it affects morale agree rallies the base I. It's not good for trump could just makes it seem like Alexander ending. So if he wins this time around, it's going to be a bigger surprise and it was the first time I. Well, I don't know about that I think the difference is that everyone hated Hillary. They don't hate Biden, but they should fear budding because it's not because he's not long for the job and he's not really Kamala change that last night. Kamal is the candidate and she's the most Liberal members of the Senate and she's for every crazy liberal proposal again, bailing out and T for and and black lives matter funding the police and getting rid of you know fossil fuels. That's that's the next regime. If I wins, it's not good old Joe, you know the the moderate from from Delaware that's that's just a front and I. Hope People Understand that it is frightening to me that people want to hand the keys over to them, and by the way they're going I mean I think it's quite clear after last night after the last couple weeks, they are going to pack the Supreme Court and. Wondering. If this moderator was you know impartial or supposed to be impartial, you got your answer when pence just like trump was forced to press her on a packing the Supreme Court it's an obviously i. mean this is an important question. We're not talking about some you know have been talking about climate change the weird theoretical issue we're talking about adding justices supreme. Who will be there for life? Who will be radical leftists like soda, my Orrin Keagan and Ruth Bader Ginsburg we're talking about Biden and Harris pointing to people just think of the craziest most radical law professors Cornell West is going to be on the Supreme Court for life. She won't answer and neither will he and all you gotTa do is ask yourself why not? Why not? It's amazing. If trump trump pets said, we're not answering a question that important it would be all talked about on CNN and MSNBC L. They would talk about on Fox with you want Williams and Chris Wallace and the rest of these you know by stooges all talk about. Jerry. First of all, why are we going on the defensive with Corp packing that's a losing strategy. We gotTa Start Republicans at the start thinking ofensive. The correct answer for will you pack the Supreme Court Kamala is Raises his hands. Actually, we're going to pack the court like, why are they the what they get to threaten us with packing the court we have the Pastelle right now why aren't we pack in court because it's so radical people. About you want to expand the court, they don't want to do. It hasn't happened in one hundred, fifty years of nuclear. It's not something I want you don't know anything about brinksmanship Jerry this is how it's done if you want to. If you WANNA talk about threatening to pack the court, we can play that game too and we can both agree this is a horrible idea. If you'll do it, I'll do it and we should just sit down and make a frigging rule like. An amendment something and just say, no one's pack- The court whose Ted Cruz a Josh Holly, Somebody said to have. A bill that says, you cannot change the makeup of the court for the next fifteen, twenty years, which would be great. It's and they're going to do it before. The Senate flips, but I think the issue is good for Senate senatorial candidates because you think about it if you're on the fence, nobody wants to pack the Supreme Court unless you know you're totally radical issue the Boston Globe or ianna Presley everyone else thinks no nine is good. Root pater Ginsburg said nine is a good number. We don't want to expand it. That's how a radical it is. So make it an issue and they have tried trump has tried trump when when biden this cranky. Oh Full Biden. Says shut up to trump ultra percent was are you going to practice premium? So you can't even ask the question it is amazing and the media. Obviously they're all in the tech. They don't want to go there because they know it's not a winning issue for their Guy Joe Biden but pence did trump fitted trump will do it again. Next week you say, are you going to pack the court? Why doesn't Biden An and Harris just lie I mean that's Biden lies about everything what isn't he just lie Oh no, we are not gonNA pack before so they're not going to Jerry because you underestimate these are corporate stooges these like they call them. Moderate Democrats for a reason at the end of the day the Corporate Students ackman starving pat they're not gonNA do anything. They'll. Say No because they'll lose the. Base. Jerry that's what they need. They need the Bernie rose to show up. They didn't show up last time. Don't you get it. It's you. Know they are going to he is a pawn of the Bernie pros. They are going to pack the Supreme, COURT THEY GONNA get rid of the filibuster. It is scary using the Bernie. But somebody. Point must push them on it say answer the question. Yeah I mean, I just have so much teach jerry. You don't understand how the Democratic Party works. They are corporate stooges worse than Republicans there's a reason, Wall Street back the left is because these guys and they see a OC and stuff as a problem we've seen it Nancy Pelosi she's clash with these people a Billion Times before but yet they need them they need to kiss. They're asking because unlike you know the proud boys who don't matter on the right because there's ten of them that the AO see wing of the party matters there's millions. Wing wasn't even watching less than that. They were burning Wisconsin that's what they were doing. You tell me. Small businesses as usual. Here are my highlights here. My highlights from last night four four pets, and against Kamala I made a quick list of Kamala Lies Charlottesville lie obviously been debunked a thousand times. Bounties untruths that was reported by the failing new. York Times and debunked by. It was disproven that were no bounties and fracking, which was her biggest lie San. I'm not against fracking when it's on Vk over saying one hundred times. That she's Dale didn't do a thing on that. Have, you ever seen a guy that needs a a Wedgie more than Daniel Dale? No. No. Yeah. John Erman you've seen a John Berman in the morning. He's very dour indies. He salary just looks like a miserable little little troll Here's Here's the best shots it started off with the plagiarism line, which was great. I answer for pence which set the tone said, their plan to fight Kobe is much like ours. In fact, you might call it plagiarism something Joe Biden is very familiar with the reality is when you look at the Biden plan, it reads an awful lot. Like what president trump and I and our task force have been doing every step of the way? And quite frankly. When I look at their plan that talks about advancing testing, creating PGA, developing a vaccine. It looks a little bit like plagiarism, which is something Joe Biden knows a little bit about. When asked about the Dacoven plan with Kamala Harris it was like the first question like specifically what will you do differently what what is your plan and Holler two, hundred, ten, thousand, dead or dead everybody's dying they didn't have they don't have a plan. All they do just like I mean there was one point where Biden, went on without on one of his acolytes Steffi. Stephanopoulos Chuck Todd listed all things he's going to do. And every single one of them trumpet already done. You know expand testing listener FAUCI PP's every single one of them trumpet already done. So that is not a winning issue as much as they like to think as much as they sit there and talk about two hundred, ten, thousand dead everyone is paying attention knows that number would be much much higher under a President Biden I thought the best. strategy was bringing mash. The best it was effective Kayla. Mueller's family was in the audience. We didn't get to see them, but they were in the audience and he talked about how Kayla Mueller was held prisoner. You know by the by SYS tortured. And the trump administration wanted to go in there and save her and you know Biden and the Democrats were against it and when they finally went in found out, she'd been moved two days earlier she was murdered the blood is on your hands it was a great riff and she didn't know what to say you know Kamala just looked around said I feel Bad for Kayla Mueller's family. It was it was quality at I know about your daughter's case and I am so sorry, obviously China's a losing issue for her but she brought it up and then spy gate when he brought up them spying surveilling the trump campaign, he did it meticulously articulately unlike trump would just be a it was a coup. Try to do a cool at pumped. Pence went through it step by step and so even you know even. Be You grads could understand that it was that simple and it was very effective. Those real highlights I. Know of colonnades even with US anymore even here, I oh, I'm here. All right. I'm trying to I'm actually listening to some of this trump audio from this morning. On. Fox Business. Say that he's going to have a rally. He says, he's get here. I'll play for you right now actually. I heard that the commission a little while ago, change the debate style, and then that's not acceptable to us beat him easily in the first debate according to polls that I've seen but I beat them easily I, felt I beat him easily I think he felt the to wouldn't answer any questions and he had the protection of Chris Wallace all night long it was thought he Chris Wallace was a disaster, but I beat him in the first debate. At the second debate, we have a never-trumper as a host, but that's okay because at beat them in the second debate also. And but I'm not going to do a virtual debate. What second? Do it because this ep the Commission on presidential debates announcing this morning that the second presidential debate will lead virtual. You say you're not gonNA participate. No I'M NOT GONNA waste my time on a virtual debate that's paintings all about you sit behind the computer and do a debates ridiculous. And then they cut you off whenever they want I have a host to I. Always thought it was a nice guy but he's never trumper came out that he's never trumper who and we do have some of them. Maria. Believe it or not because they don't like to win I A and Doing doing. So his campaign just came out with a statement saying he he will have posted multiple negative cova tests by the time. This debate even happens which isn't isn't necessarily fact in that situation, but but that's their stance on. ooh That's is going to be good I. Mean Trump's you're right he's GonNa do rallies because that's where he's most comfortable and that's can easily you can easily socially distance. Doing an outdoor rally. Why don't they do the next debate simple question. Out It's in Miami why don't you just do it outside outdoors even the craziest mask fanatic admits that safer. He does it why can't they? Why not do it outdoors. You. Know at a hotel and do it in the end of the balcony. Just. Stop because Jerry their entire thing is based on fear that's their entire working very well this idea that because it's all they had trump was crews into a second term. Things were good. The economy was great and all they have is fear these people get off on fear makes it arouses them because they realized that oak crap. We tried Russia we tried all this other crap none of it. We tried white nationalist fear it's worth at. Right over here is working, they've convinced America that trump has botched the cova response. Even. Though they have not a single thing. They would've done differently or done better. Just the opposite is things they would have been much much worse They don't have any tangible examples of ways. He blushed they go back to you know Bob Woodward with trump said, yes he was trying to keep people from getting discouraged blame trump one hundred percent for doing the Bob Woodward interviews one, hundred, percent his fault. It must frustrate people like pence people that you know who have a some good common sense say why did you sit down? Why did you spend twenty hours with Bob? Woodward you idiot, it was foolish. He dug his own grave in that regard but they got. And yet have convinced people that he botched the Kobe response it's work. That's the one thing that has really really worked and get ready for three more weeks of Appel. Going to be over and over again that two hundred, thousand, dead trump killed them. You know he killed him by flat out says it two, hundred thousand people would be alive today if not for trump which makes you wonder about sworn masks jerry if they'd just worn out all the people in Spain and Italy and. In Asia mean trump kill them too. Well they we have the highest rate in the world of people dying one fifth of all dead Cova people are in the United States. But what trump should've done I mean it's the easiest what he didn't last week is the easiest slam dunk ever you got the virus, your extremely high risk and you find you should you should be he should have done instead of going on twitter in Tweeden crap out all day. He just blew the biggest layup. He should have just done a presidential national statement from his office in which he just in a diplomatic. TELEPROMPTER TRUMP WAY reassured the American people that it's going to be okay and dowse going on twitter and doing it. He does sound good. I. Mean obviously sounds Goofy is always be sound healthy. Does he not? He looks fine. He looks I mean I was wondering if he was faking it if he was really sick pretending that he wasn't sick just for you know for the vigil but he does sound pretty good. Would you do like? A national address on network television or John Kennedy's death. What presidents do during major events? This is a major president. Needs Court the virus, but didn't vote for him because we don't want that bullshit. We want somebody to say, okay fine. Fuck. It put a camera in my face I'm GONNA, put it onto my eighty million followers and then the news is going to cater you're learning on twitter bubble not everybody's on twitter you're acting like everybody sees it when tweet out now do you think that video didn't play on Network News that night? Because they, they redacted it because it's dangerous. Now video was dangerous. So it was taken down you can't even say it. He should have done an address from the Oval Office said here I am I beat the disease we should take it seriously, but you don't have to let it dominate your life. It was the most presidential thing. He's ever said I. Agree it was necessary. It's what you what you WANNA hear. He's trying to lift the spirits and convince people that we shouldn't be shutting down. The country should make that clear every day Biden wants to shut us all down close the schools and I don't that is a winning issue. By the way I'm looking at the numbers May USA's tenth in the world of deaths per million trailing among others. Brazil Belgium really how `bout. We don't have the worst death rate in the world and by the way what you should say every time they ask say it's all the fault of the Democrat governors of Cuomo and Murphy and Baker and Whitmer. These liberal governors are the ones putting Komo buyers patients into nursing homes and killing people if you take them out of the equation It drops precipitously. It's their fault. He should say that over and over and over again. But anyway, I mean that's that's all I thought about when they bring that up is just like this is not how. This is not a republic works. The president is cannot make everybody in the entire country. Do something we have fifty states for a reason and it's up to individual states, and if you look at it governors like Christie, moments out Dakota and Missouri in states like that, they don't have covert problems and they went on living their lives. It's the states that freaked out about it, and they're still doing this losing thing that got us in the situation in the first place and put elderly people in nursing. They're the ones killing everybody don't you see it? Does how is trump responsible for New York which is The second highest death rate. New. Jersey's number one How is trump? That's just a simple question how trump? You Joe Biden Not Kamala House trump responsible for the deaths in thirty three thousand desks in New, York Sixteen Thousand Jersey Ninety five hundred Massachusetts those are the top three Connecticut is for those are the top four how is trump responsible for the death rate in those four? A hot hot spots explain that I was trying to how simple question in Congress audible for what Charlie Baker did to veterans in Holyoke how? And how more lockdown stopped like we did lockdowns it failed miserably lots of people died anyway, and you know what we'd more of lockdowns. Doing it in New York the crackdown closing more restaurants shutting down schools. It's madness and it's a winning issue if trump could just stand up and scream I before we. Get to a couple of things by the way. I'M GONNA do my my masks story every day. I am and I am telling the truth and I'm GonNa tell you what happened yesterday two days ago an old guy it off and covered his face when he walked by me on on his bridge in Boston yesterday I'm walking ahead. No. For Run some walking, you know get my phone out to get my podcast on listen to my headphones and there's this woman with a mask and our two kids and they were above eight or nine, and she's got one in each hand like he's holding their hands and I walked up this intersection I'm nowhere near it's Fifteen feet away when I walk up the intersection I look at her and she looks at me shakes her head takes her kids by the arm and pulls them right across the street and I'm talking it is a very busy intersection and I'd like go what she doing. I didn't understand it i. she was dragging them away from me because I had no mask and she might. Are you. Sure. She wasn't a fan she went against. Like. The light was red or the no oxen at she went right across the road and I laughed and shook my head and said you people are insane. We were outdoors. It was windy as hell by the way was like storm conditions and she and I I'm like, what is she doing realized? She's looking at me she she's did that because I didn't have a mask on yours. Ten twelve feet away from her people have lost their minds. I'm GONNA give you a story every day because I'm in the city and people are just nuts everybody is wearing a mask running. Everybody's wearing a mask biking walking their dogs alone at night there wear masks people have been brainwashed to think that that is really going to save lives. It is scary how Kevin in the comments client everyone has been carry Kevin in. The comments as Gerry Callahan is a super spreader and I I tend to agree with them. I. Just Great Jerry I. Don't. I'm the safest kind world I told you. I don't have any friends. I have no human interaction I don't talk to anyone besides you guys I'm like Rambo I don't talk to people for days I'm the safest guy in the world I am in no danger why should I wear a mask outdoors your? To clip that part Collie I don't have any friends. Yes. I will sniffles in and and my vision was a little blurry yesterday from a headache that my wife thought I had covered. I was going to go get tested. So at this. is every about that either I don't have to worry about paranoid people around me. I want you to pay attention because you know what? Maybe you need a building you know everyone could use a building now and then shake on Crete has buildings have buildings they partner with easy set worldwide in manufacturer pre cast concrete buildings. For, multiple applications in variety of sizes, shaven manufacturing pre-cast buildings for over seventeen years and no one does better. 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Belushi show place where these guys did blow in the dressing rooms before they went on the air that did all kinds of drugs that you know partied all night. They see a guy do a shot in a bar to celebrate Alabama's win because he's a Alabama guy and they kick them off the show said your services are no longer needed here. Where does it end? That's like he was actually just on he did a video with Barstool guys. He did he he played like a foreplay match on their goal odd cast with Darius Rucker Jayco, and so it was eight guys there was a ton of camera people. So let's say, let's say fifteen people were there in that moment none of them were wearing masks while they're playing golf. So why didn't they? Why didn't they cancel them for that? That was last week It's a good question. I guess. There's no like you said, there's no end to this is no limit to this there I said it jokingly months ago that pretty soon little kids that two year old kids would have masks. They do I got him in my neighborhood kids kids nice families but they have been brainwashed two year old kids. And put masks on them to have them live in fear of this scary boogeyman that might come kill them and this guy took it too by the way. Morgan Wallen said yeah I understand that makes sense what that's because he'd get forgotten vilified if he if he fought back against that whether he agrees with it or not you know get crushed. It's just bizarre and I don't care. I don't care if I see the guy, I hate watch snl now just so I can mock it and I remember the good old days and you know Farley blue she bill Murray and Eddie Murphy and all the greats and now you have. These these Karen's these these. These crazy moon bats who? Hate don't really. WanNa get laughs they just want to attack trump penson. This week should be really fertile. Grounds, really great material because Maya Rudolph Plays Great Kamala Harris She's almost as unlikable as the actual Kamala Harris the she plays the mean girl with the mannerisms but it's redundant. We've seen it already. There's this. Last weeks there was no humor in her portrayal of it was like she just made statements that weren't funny humor anymore they just political commentator. Jim. Carey. Say what you you hate it. You don't think it's funny by like at least they tried some jokes right? Like we say. Admit Adam I'm you know? I've seen it a thousand times. It's not funny anymore but he is a good caricature of trump and they'll do and they have a pen sky and they'll do pence Kamala Harrison I don't know what they'll do. They'll have still have something to make her look good to redeem her for her terrible performance but. I don't know who the musical guest they gotta find someone in two days. Someone who promises to sing with a mask on just. That's what she should do that. She come out mission all wear their masks and mumble and no one can understand anything that that would be appropriate but Anything else colony we we promised you an update on the Patriots Kovin Situation Team covid nobody knew nobody besides their best offensive player and their best defensive player and Bill Murray speaking of snl some scrub on the Patriots named Bill Murray three guys tested positive but it's so devastating. Obviously we saw them without Cam Newton. They're lost. They don't have a good backup. They don't have a chance without Newton and with Gilmore changes everything to so damned good. So we did I see tweet that said Somebody tweeted like Oh, there was some. There's some question about whether Roger Goodell would make the pro football hall of fame. But now this is his big shining moment is how he's ended the virus. It's like I don't know that just seems absurd to me. That's how you're factoring in his. This is going to be the biggest moment Roger Goodell's career how he's handled this year. Is. Clay Travis always says the coronal Bros. are rooting for Chaos and they're rooting for the virus and they are they're hope I mean I can't believe people say it was a mistake to play the game in Kansas City why because? Why I don't even say why? Because the Patriots lost why was it a mistake? They lost one player the quarterback I? Agree he's important what is supposed to cancel the game and tell the chiefs sorry the Patriots don't have their good quarterback. Mean, he. Has. An illicit. If we have the flu, would you cancel the game. Two players they supposed to cancel this game. There are measures in place. To replace them, there are a little. Comb Backup Practice Reserve Squadron Place them. So unfortunately, the Patriots were. Affected by this in the worst possible way, their best players got sick. If happened to another team, would you say they should cancel the Games? Of course not they mean the game was played millions of people watched the ratings are good. Certainly compared to the NBA they're not going just cancel the season. just nuts but then there's no reported they didn't do anything like out of protocol or anything like that. Right and the titans they held a workout that they should know that they should have done. So they're. Facing possible fines and stuff like that. But the Patriots do anything out. And you know if they have no symptoms and they don't, they could come back potentially for this week I don't think they will but they'll come back next week I think they have a bye and they'll be fine and they'll be fighting for wildcard when all is said and done. It's a big big problem when a coach gets it like an older coach or a heavy coach like Andy Reid then it'll be scary when a player gets it as we know by now, it ain't scary at all. we'll see in I'm sure other teams will be affected. Other people there other players, but right now there's no reason to cancel the season. This was part of the plan guys we're GONNA get infected and they're going to get replaced and they were gonNA sit out for a game and that's that and he's also a ton of ability, right? Like they're. They're obviously going to go to a week eighteen. There's not there's not going to be a like a crazy week long super bowl media day or anything like that. None of that Shit's going to happen. So they can do the Super Bowl, whatever the hell they want. It's not. They have so much flexibility to figure it all night postponed games they might cancel games even you know make. You know if they had to do it, then make it fourteen games or whatever, but they not going to cancel the season Yup nor do we want them to tonight Tom Brady's plan? Correct? I believe. So yes. That's something to watch. We get to the debate recap we get to watch all the analysis on the analysts saying. Would a sexist? Pence was and how unfair he was actually has the potential to be a good Thursday night game teams three and one. There's three one as well. That is a good. That's true. Bears bears an never entertained by the bears never. Bears because they never have a good quarterback, but it will be interesting to see See Brady again on a short week I'm sure he's a little sore. Feeling a little bit You know fatigue from Sunday gets play tonight at eight twenty at Chicago that fans they don't know fan. We've so yeah, I don't. Preview of every game our fans allowed in. Thousand eight thousand ten thousand no fans. So, there'll be no fan. So there's no home field, but tonight Brady versus the bears good something good to watch not as good as last night last night was a blast to watch my guy take apart the mean girl I enjoyed it thoroughly. Now I love sit back and watch all the reviews and we can watch trump kick and scream because they want the second debate to be zoom and he's not going to stand for. It'll be fascinating to see how this plays out. We'll trump get his way he shoot he's president and they could have all kinds of measures and plex letsie screens and you know. social distance and everything else do it outside is I propose but they will dig in their heels. Biden will insist on doing it on zoom and trump won't, and we'll see how it all plays out. We stay on top of that but thanks to turtle boy thanks to DC YOU and allied bathing shake concrete and ray con anything else to get to anything we missed they've colony we did not miss anything important a great weekend. It might even be the best weekend to rate review and subscribe to the podcast. If you ask me it's it's it's a perfect opportunity to do so so. Reviewing Apple podcasts to telephone Czechoslo. I'm Jerry Kelly and Business Kellyanne podcast we talk to you again soon. Why am I stopping you? No one else stops. I don't I can I go home good Gerry Callahan podcast.

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2463 - Biden's Narrow Win, The GOP's Freakout & AOC's Strategic Critique

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

1:06:38 hr | 2 months ago

2463 - Biden's Narrow Win, The GOP's Freakout & AOC's Strategic Critique

"You are listening to a free version of majority report with sam cedar to support this show and get another fifteen minutes daily program. Good already dot. Fm please draw. It is monday november. Nine th two thousand twenty. My name is sam cedar. That's the five time award winning majority report. We are broadcasting. Live steps in steps and steps from the does really ravage. Ghana's can now in the heartland of america downtown brooklyn usa on the program today. Joe biden assumes the mantle of president elect kamla harris becomes the first woman and woman of color to be calm vice president elect. Meanwhile corona virus nears escape velocity. Utah poses a universal mask. Mandate as infections skyrocket. However some possible. Good news pfizer. Has a vaccine. Claims is ninety percent effective regardless. Won't be ready for this winter. And the dead taunt ends as progressives and moderate democrats try and establish the narrative meanwhile donald trump still thinks. She's going to be president. Who is going to tell him. U n humanitarian official condemns israeli demolition of palestinian homes and co vid. Relief starved cities. Look to shrink retiree benefits. Meanwhile the twenty twenty election is a redistricting and democracy disaster and turn out shatters. Some very long held democratic myths. All this and more on today's majority report. Welcome ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for being with us today. we are a little bit short staffed so bear with us. We muddle through. This people are very excited Weekend matt. I'm not sure if you heard the news but on saturday. Joe biden was Was i guess. Called him is not official yet. It is an official ever in these elections until well into december but All of the major media outlets called the election for joe biden As it is today or should say of yesterday evening joe biden's lead had increased to over twenty thousand. I mean excuse me had increased To over twenty five thousand in arizona. Joe biden's lead increased to over ten thousand in georgia. Joe biden's lead increased to almost forty five thousand In pennsylvania and this is not an and this is very important because i spent probably more time than i should have listening to right wing. Talk radio this weekend and they are still harping about and we should say right now. Donald trump is somewhere in a bunker at the white And i think they're giving him a lot of comfort food. They're very very nervous about telling him what the reality of the election is. He has yet to concede but that number forty three thousand one hundred ninety four as of yesterday in joe biden's lead in pennsylvania. It's probably higher as of now. They've been doing it They've been counting this morning. That number does not include ballots that that were cast before november third but arrived after eight pm on november third. Those ballots have been sequestered now. I am personally of the mind that they should be counted but these are the ones that are subjected to litigation that could go to the supreme court. These are the ones that the supreme court said. We're not gonna deal with those now prior to the election but they but but there was a state supreme court or i should say a state court that said sequestered these ballots so that we know her balance that came in after eight thirty pm on election day. We're gonna put into a different pile so we need to exclude those and really what we're saying is that even if you cast the ballot before november third and put it in the mail if the males slow then. It's your fault as a voter but put that aside for a moment. This is a separate pile of ballots that have yet to be counted and the republicans are talking about these ballots as if they will make a difference if they're excluded but joe biden is already up by almost forty five thousand votes in pennsylvania. Doesn't need those ballots yet. This is how they'll maintain their grip. This is how donald trump will ask his followers for more money with the hopes of paying off a campaign debt which i think probably We will find at one. Point is largely just gone into a whole series of of basically self-dealing or extended self-dealing but We shall see on that. But i want to make that clear because we hear a lot about these These court cases and none of them at this point appear to be able to make any difference whatsoever and on saturday and i time collapse. I thought we had talked about this friday. But apparently it happened on saturday Here's rudy giuliani saying that. The networks don't get to call elections as if that's never happened before and it's true the networks can get it wrong. He they they scheduled a press conference out in front of the four seasons. Not the four seasons hotel no of course not the four seasons total landscaping company here. It is the poll because they don't like the election the call for joe biden is who was the kobe. Oh my goodness all the networks. Wow all the networks. We have to forget about the law. Judges don't count all the networks older networks networks biden was gonna win by ten percent. Gee what happened to and don't be. Don't be ridiculous. Networks don't get to decide. elections courts. Do not voter courts new voters voters. Don't even come into play here folks. Can you imagine and this is why we saw heard so many reports of that. Donald trump was very upset about his legal team. Can you imagine that being the lawyer that you're counting on to To reverse the results of an election there is no doubt in my mind. That rudy giuliani when he asked which networks did not realize that all the networks right i mean he was looking he was. He was hoping he could say. Oh you mean the the the the communist news network or m s dnc. I mean this is in fact. I listened to rudy giuliani. I think it must have been. Maybe it was friday night He has a one hour show on. Wabc and i gotta say he as someone who who has done talk radio And also has times where he's very tired and Rudy's melnace in folks. He did about a four minute monologue and then took Took phone calls people without having any idea apparently not even to anything saying but that's that's so when he says communist news network and ms dnc. That is i'm not. i'm not paraphrasing. I'm quoting that is what he anticipated. He was going to get and then he found out that. Oh yes even fox has yes called it And the the story of course that people took away from that. Was that the president thought. Apparently there was some miscommunication between corey lewandowski and the president To the effect of we're going to do the conference in philadelphia at the four seasons and it was not the four seasons hotel it ended up being four seasons total landscaping which I guess on one side of it is I'm not sure it's a dry cleaners. And then a sex toy shop. So i mean very convenient for for folks still suspect that the four seasons the real four seasons may have been like we actually want to get paid for renting out. Are you know venue so no. We won't know they were. They were very quick to say. This is not happening at our place. We're not associated that whatsoever. Supposedly the story. They're spinning now is that they could not find a less hostile part of town that the first press conference they tried to do which i think we played clips of with pam. Bondi was Overshadowed by a dj a loudspeaker system. They could here so she could only just wave a document in the air. I mean i laughed because what is hilarious about all of this is they keep claiming. There is massive evidence of fraud. We are six days out now and yet they have not been able when you hear them talk about the fraud. They will talk about it in the most general terms and they have not been able to establish a single they say that would there's a whistle blower They're they're in in michigan and pennsylvania and but no nothing in terms of what the whistle blower has said. There was an attempt to say that there were no absorb observers who were led into these various accounting places and sadly for them. There were observers there and it was a total fabrication and in multiple jurisdictions. The judge is basically said. You're wasting our time here is rudy. Giuliani on With maria boxer. Romo this is on sunday morning futures. This is a Excuse me fox. Business news show and obits fox news fox news and They keep you know asking for evidence they don't get any evidence and so now they're wondering like will the baby and chief concede and apparently l. the reporting now is that many of these legal cases. Are there just to sort of give down trump a sort of like a soft landing so that it's not too shocking to him but here is maria bartiromo. Almost pleading really giuliani to like. Let's not watching. This is getting a little bit ugly now so in other words you're saying that. Will the president concede anytime soon. I guess is my final question. Given all of this it really would be run for him. At this point it would be wrong to concede. There's there is strong evidence that this was an election that at least three or four states and possibly ten another words if we was based on false votes now you can't go into history without challenging. I mean god speed much almost two months right. Yeah people are just like. Please give us a time line here. Can you imagine the incompetence associated with a democratic party. That is Perpetrating fraud in ten states yet. That can't flip the senate like as if as if as if these people like look we're doing this. We're all gonna vote for biden for president. This is the way we're gonna do it. We've got a lot of dead people lined up Shouldn't we have also had them. Vote down ballot. Let's can we leave off. Georgia were kind of running up the score at that point. career lay. Go up to maine and try to knock susan collins off maybe right right. Or why did we Why did we elect joe biden in georgia fraudulently and then force a runoff with our senate candidates. Does that make any sense to anybody and it. Just coincidental all this Fraud i mean this is. This is what we have to believe if we're to believe their narrative which is that there was a massive concerted effort by the democrats to commit fraud across ten states. Yet they didn't it didn't occur to them to also help out there. Senate candidates in these states right. I mean that's what we're to believe. And like i mean if we could have done this in georgia would couldn't have done this in maine What about turning some state houses later in the program We're gonna talk a little bit about the failures that that that Took place down ballot. I know people want to celebrate but this is this is a get back to work moment. Folks take your vacation at the end of the year People had a lot of excitement over the weekend and and rightfully so but Joe biden's working today so We should to just want to remind you that today's program is sponsored. At least in part by honey look a lot of people a lot of online shopping these days. I certainly am not Going into a store is if i can. I can help it in certain instances by stuff online I know certainly. My daughter loves to Do that well. Honey has been a bit of a lifesaver extension that scours. 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Or i should say transition team to get ramped up because there's nothing that these folks can propose that biden can obviously now but he is getting these proposals lined up so that on day one he can implement these to the extent that he can implement them with a potentially hostile senate. But there's another problem. There's a trump administration appointee this according to the washington post who is refusing to sign a letter which allows president elect joe. Biden's transition team to formally begin. Its work this week. It's the administrator of the general services administration. This is a an agency that's in charge of of federal buildings and They must sign paperwork which essentially allows the flowing of millions of dollars which are budgeted to transition administration's if you will give them access to To government buildings gives them access to government. Officials gives them imagine like key cards or ideas equipment essentially. There is a budget there. Are there is facilities. All set aside for presidential transitions. One person has to authorize it. And this person emily murphy who is the. Gsa administrator refuses to write the letter. Now there was a transition delay in two thousand because there was no call and no clear consensus on who the president was until december. But aside from that that's it. Gsa spokeswoman pamela pennington says an ascertainment has been made and it's administrator we'll continue to abide by fulfill requirements under the law. I mean it is unclear when this is going to happen but You know this is part of of the continuance of the trump administration to basically say we will screw over. I mean look even if you believe that even if you are of the belief that we don't know what's what's what the outcome of the presidency is and i. I don't think there's any rational people who are not on the payroll literally of the trump campaign who who argue this the You could release these funds and have this work done. It just ramp up But hopefully it will not inhibit the biden administration Too much because obviously we have in this country And it's happening To a certain extent around the world but we are perhaps uniquely ill suited for what's happening According to scott gottlieb who was the Former food and drug administrator from twenty seventeen to april twenty nine thousand nine. We're going to have a visit quote. We're going to have a record number of hospitalizations this week. Now fifty six thousand people are hospitalized. Eleven thousand or icu. These are very big numbers nationally and it's accelerating very quickly utah. I mentioned has called for a universal mask mandate because they are running out of icu. Beds there is We are experiencing a massive surge in corona virus epidemics. The we have ten million people infected or have been infected in this country. One million of those have happened in the last couple of weeks so you do the math. The rate in which infections are accelerating. The number of infections are accelerating is it's terrifying for epidemiologist. And we are headed into. And not only that. I mean frankly you know I understand the intense desire to To celebrate donald trump's loss. But i gotta be honest with you I saw images of of Of all the celebrations and i got very very concerned. You know i think the in general we saw during the protests at least in the context of new york there was Very little implications in terms of covert infections to the protests. But i think people in many respects during those protests were were more orderly. And we're more conscientious about mask wearing and And i worry about all of those celebrations. And then i also worry about a lot of those folks in two weeks going to see their relatives for thanksgiving and of course. Just broadly speaking across the country of thanksgiving is going to be could potentially be a another inflection point so a lot of concerns in terms of corona virus at its it makes total sense at the first thing that joe biden do on the first day working day that he is the president-elect would be to convene a panel however there is some good news and it is always best to take these things with a certain grain of salt however pfizer and its partner by on tech announced. Today that the vaccine they have been developing against covid. Nineteen was not only strongly effective but it exceeds expectations by magnitude of a as far as i can tell most expectations in hopes were for a vaccine. That was at least fifty percent. Effective sixty to seventy percent effective would have been considered very very good according to pfizer and biontech their vaccine well This is From stat news. The company said early analysis of the results showed that individuals who received two injections of the vaccine three weeks apart experience. More than ninety percent fewer cases of symptomatic covid nineteen than those who received the placebo. Now face three of the study is ongoing. Additional data could affect results. But there's a couple of things to be clear about ninety percent fewer cases of symptomatic cove. Nineteen that's good. The companies will not file for an emergency use authorization to distribute the vaccine until they reach one more milestone. That is when half of the patients in this study have been observed for safety issues for at least two months following their second dose and according to is a they will cross that threshold in the third week of november. So we're two weeks out before they will file for an emergency use authorization but they must have some measure of confidence at this point Couple other Things to note. There's no information yet on whether the vaccine prevents severe cases what happens to those ten percent who do contract we. There is no information whether it prevents people from carrying cove nineteen without symptoms. It is also not possible this point to say with any confidence how long it will protect against infection with the virus. But you know it's not impossible to imagine that you get your two shots in the first three weeks six months later. You gotta get a booster shot. I mean for ninety percent of efficacy. If this holds this is basically a If that holds it is basically a ticket to ending the pandemic side effects appear to be Fever some aches seems to be worse than a flu shot but not dramatically so also. The results have not been pure reviewed They have not been peer reviewed by outside scientists. They have not been published a medical journal. There is No information as to how independent monitors have What they have observed in terms of the vaccinations pfizer claims that up to fifty million doses could be available globally by the end of the year with one point. Three billion available in two thousand twenty one. Apparently one of the big distribution challenges to this is that the Vaccine must be stored at super cold temperatures super cold temperatures so This is A this is a challenge. This is going to be a challenge to That It can be distributed but all these things are things that can be managed far better than actually finding something that is ninety percent effective so There it is. This is not something that's going to be available this winter It will probably not be something that becomes widely available. If all of these things go right from here on in testing until the summer of twenty twenty one that is what the experts say So the big challenge for this country and the world is going to be Is going to be to get through the next couple of months. Frankly and we see it's going to require Some you know we may see more Mandatory mask mandates. I don't think that biden at this point from what i've read is not planning to do something like that. But i think they're going to widely encourage it so we will see Let's move on to The some of the not terribly exciting aspects of this election. There is as you know january fifth. There's going to be a runoff in georgia to senate races. David perdue versus jon. Ossoff raphael warnock versus a these raises. Traditionally democrats have not one in runoff races in georgia. Traditionally they have this is from Dave wagle's the trailer just giving a couple of examples historically democrat. John barrow faced a runoff with republican. Brad raffin burger in the race of secretary of state. This was two years ago barrow. Trailed in the first round by sixteen thousand votes and lost by more than sixty five thousand votes. Turn out overall had fallen. By half twelve years ago when turnout surged in the race. Between mccain and obama then saxby chambliss went to overtime with democrat. Jim martin chambas led the first round by three points in the second by fifteen so the the the trend is in georgia. If i is indicative of future that the democrats are not going to win however We just saw a democratic president wind georgia for the first time in almost my entire lifetime. And i'm fairly old certainly within It's been decades upon decades so it is unclear as to what the outcome is. Couldn't have more relevance despite the fact that also and warnock necessarily the most progressive of senate candidates putting aside Apparently he's ever teach out has said that Has some pretty good antitrust bona as Warnick has I think Is closer in terms of like Some policies that we would appreciate As progressives Clinton georgia in ninety two so thirty years almost On day one if the democrats control the senate even by one vote in the thai vote would be comma harasses. You have the opportunity through The cra which is a an administrative law that says congress can reverse any executive orders that have come down by the president within a sixty day working day threshold so that goes back to almost basically throughs six months ago seven months ago congress can reverse it. They do not need filibuster-proof majority in the senate to do so. So the house senate where we're comma harris's the tiebreaker and biden can reverse a whole slew of executive orders that i think i anticipate we're going to get from donald trump over the next couple of months certainly ones that he's had in the past and once these executive orders are reversed to re institute those as laws. The next congress has to pass pass them with a two thirds majority many of obama's executive orders particularly dealing with the environment were overturned by republicans in this manner and made wear well out of reach for future congresses to fix even legislatively even statutorily the implications for joe biden to seat cabinet members to To pass legislation all ride on these two races in georgia. This is an all hands on deck. The reality is the odds are stacked against the democrats there but again that assessment of reality is based on past performance and we have seen in georgia specifically an ability to outperform past performance. Nearly thirty years. It's been since the democrat won georgia as As a president and We saw it happen. Couple of days ago so If you have the opportunity to Engage in that. I can certainly understand the cynicism and the pessimism but There's no value in that whatsoever so Better to engage with that situation than not tomorrow on the program. We'll have david. Dan executive editor of the american prospect on the show. And he's gonna comedy he's gonna talk about what joe biden can do even if he doesn't have a senate and there's a lot and just like the conversation we have jeff. How last week very important for people who care about where we're going. i mean. Donald trump has been defeated but the political ideology that ushered into office. Republicanism has not and we still have and say this as a progressive if you will or the left side of the democratic party a huge unfulfilled agenda. And we're already seeing now the jockeying for For power in this new congress. If you'll recall we've talked about this a of times after twenty team. Democrats had an incredible showing the most successful off year again in decades. If they didn't have the numbers that challenged of their biggest win ever it was only because of gerrymandering sheer votes. They had the biggest win. They had had an off year elections within days. We saw the moderates and conservatives and the democratic party attempt to build their power within and the narrative within their With the media within their caucus by attacking ilhan omar in fact they so ham fisted. Lee did this that. Nancy pelosi engaged in this well as well. It completely overshadowed they're passing. Hr one which was their big ethics anti-corruption pro voting. it was. it was actually a very good bill. Nobody ever heard a thing about it because pelosi for whatever reason decided to make this about attacking ilhan omar into undercutting the squad and they the right out of the gate. They tried to do this again. Where you saw moderates come out early on and claim that the reason why the democrat did so dismally down ballot and they did do dismally down. Ballot lost a couple of seats in the house failed to pick up. The senate still a chance to do so but it shouldn't come down in this situation to runoffs in georgia and even maybe even more importantly in state house races across the country. Democrats failed in every single state to change the chorus of of redistricting. That's going to take place fainting. It went backwards arizona connecticut. They failed to get a super majority to gain control of the redistricting arizona. There's an independent redistricting commission. That's been in place since two thousand but the supreme court is prime to strike down independent commissions on redistricting they say that the that the state legislature can't even decide to To delegate that authority and georgia republicans maintain full control of redistricting in iowa. There's a nonpartisan agency has proposed maps the iowa legislature but the democrats failed to flip the state house to break a gop's a full control and this is the first time Where republicans while full control at iowa so they may reject that nonpartisan redistricting map in kansas republican's man their supermajority even though democrats is needed one single state house seat to flip to break the veto proof majority. There's a democratic governor there but it's they veto They have veto. Override power now in michigan. They have an independent. Redistricting commission could get invalidated by the supreme court. They failed to retake democrats there. We failed to take the state house. Even though it's possible we could get another situation in michigan. Like we haven't wisconsin. Were democrats win more votes but get less seats because of it remember. This is the dynamic that we have in wisconsin. Fifty four percent of the votes in two thousand eighteen went to democrats but only thirty six percent of the seats. Did that is the problem. With redistricting redistricting it is completely not only is it totally anti-democratic it is debilitating in terms of political power because that also impacts the congressional redistricting in new hampshire. Republicans regained their gerrymandered majorities. They have now full control over. Redistricting in new hampshire and new york. It remains to be seen. If a new york democrats will have a super majority so they will be able to re district in north carolina. Republicans gained seats and they are Possibly setup to regain a supremacy on the north carolina. Supreme court oregon. The democrats failed to get a two-thirds majority texas virginia. The story is all the way Virginia is one of the few places where democrats are doing okay. And of course they have a an independent commission there Democrats are faced with this failure down ballot and there is finger pointing the finger pointing. Has there was a basically an attack by folks in the democratic leadership. Clyburn also We talked about. I think it was on friday. The phone call that was leaked and was actually listened to by reporters where abigail span burger and others criticized. Afc the squad and just the general idea that democrats would in any way Would in any way be. I don't know that there's there's no legislation. there's no policies have been adopted by the democrats but in any way be sympathetic to things. Like black lives matter sympathetic to the idea of decreasing police budgets and providing those resources for other organizations in cities to basically make the policy portfolio or the responsibilities of the The cops less then. You had john casick goes on television and look i did not put john casick On the dnc. And give him as much speaking time as any other democrat. This is the problem that comes with highlighting and promoting things like project. Lincoln of course does republicans got more votes than the last time. There's no evidence that project loot lincoln change the single person's vote or john casick chain single person's vote but somehow john casick republican former fox host former And maybe current frankly wall street guy is out there and now he's explaining what the democrats have to do. Clip number ten. Now is the time for democrats. And i believe joe biden. We'll do this to begin to listen to what the other half the country has had to say but we have to listen to what those folks those republicans all across this country has had to say. The best thing that's happened. The joe biden is the fact that the united states senate is either gonna be republican or very close and the far left can push him as hard as they want frankly. Democrats have to make it clear to the far left that they almost cost him this election and that congresswoman from virginia warned the democrats. You wanna talk about defunding. The police you'll have no support. And i think this is an opportunity for bind talk about the the center right in the center left at this country and what can be achieved because we have enormous problems with debt. Social security medicare healthcare little steps little steps one other thing. One democrat told me at some point if they'd have been more clear rejecting the heart left they would've appealed more to americans who i believe essentially live in the middle so i think actually he's in a better position today because being pulled from the left isn't gonna work. They will not get those things done. I mean this is I understand that. When john casick says we have debt. And we've got to deal with medicare and social security. He's talking about those. The two most popular programs in the entire country the staple of that has been basically keeping democrats in the game to the extent that they're in the game for almost one hundred years that should be enough to discount john casick period of story. But the idea that the democrats were in any way inhibited by these policies. There's just no evidence of it. Zero zero evidence of joe biden. First of all there was no democrats out there who didn't have enough resources. No moderate democrats for shore. No centrist democrats no republican-leaning democrats who didn't have the resources to push back on false narratives. If that's what they wanted to do. Joe biden was able to do it. They could have done it but the fascinating thing is too is that the. Afc was interviewed by the new york times. And her what she had to say is being completely mischaracterized. And it's fascinating to watch this. She gave a critique and one of the things that i've been you know. I've always said about Afc is that there are two elements about her that Are are particularly helpful in my mind and one is her ideology. she is full-throated in her support. For things like green new deal things like medicare for all etc etc but even if you put aside ideological differences that people might have even if you want to argue that well she is in a district that is Made up of something like seventy percent working class folks and eighty percent People of color even if your argument is that those policies won't sell in other locations. I don't know what those locations might be or why they're necessary for democrats to to win even if you also want to say like well i mean the fact that they would elect her over joe crowley and also elector and fend off her. A challenge significantly may be indicative of a dynamic that you know things didn't change that much in two years in her district. It could be just that People have been holding power and not providing what their constituents actually want but putting that aside from an ideological perspective. Her critique of the democratic party is not an ideological one at least in the context of these elections. Her critique of the democratic party is that their failure to exercise best practices and do politics correctly. Remember the the d triple. C punished a lot of organizations that worked with primary people and so they ended up essentially blacklisting some of the best for profit political firms. The ones that have the the the best sense of how to motivate voters how to communicate with voters on on particularly on digital platforms. And what she sang it if you read these new this new york times interview. This is what she sang She sang two things one quote. We also learned that progressive policies do not hurt candidates. she's not suggesting that it is a panacea to adopt medicare for all. She simply saying they don't hurt. Candidates every single candidate that cosponsored medicare for all in a swing district kept their seat. Now again co-sponsoring you just sign up for it. It's not like you run on it necessarily but that means it's not a liability. We also know that cosponsoring. The green new deal was not a sneh a sinker mike. Levin was an original cosponsor the legislation. He kept his seat in other words. If you think you support a policy that is the right policy but you are worried that it's a liability. We have proof. Now that it's not a liability it may not be a panacea may not make you win your district but it shouldn't be an in any inhibition winning that district. She goes on to say. I've been starting to look into actual functioning of these campaigns. So she shifting here. It is now about the mechanics of actually politicking. The thing is i've been unseating. Democrats for two years. She's been working with justice democrats. I've been defeating democratic congressional campaign committee run campaigns for two years. That's how i got to congress. That's how we elected a yana presley. Tau jamaal bowman one. That's how corey bush one and so we know about extreme vulnerabilities in how democrats run campaigns. She is now speaking as a campaign runner. This is not an ideological issue for her. Some of his criminal malpractice connor lamb spent two thousand dollars on facebook the week before the election. I don't think anybody who's not on the internet. In a real way. In the year of our lord twenty twenty and loses an election can blame anyone else when they're not really on the internet and she says if the fact of the matter is you're not spending two hundred thousand facebook with fundraising persuasion volunteer. Recruitment get out the vote the week before the election. You are not firing on all cylinders and not a single one of these campaigned. Were firing on. All cylinders shows criticizing the democrats for political malpractice not on ideological grounds these folks are pointing toward republican messaging. They feel killed them right. But why were you so vulnerable to that attack. If you're not door knocking if you're not on the internet if your main points of reliance our tv and mail you're not running a campaign on all cylinders. I just don't see how anyone could be making ideological claims when they didn't run a full fledged campaign. Here's the dirty little secret folks. Your campaign buys a lot of ads. Your campaign buys a lot of mailers. Your campaign consultants advisors. They make a ton of money. If you're campaign goes and knocks on a bunch of doors campaign buys a bunch of ads on facebook. You do not make a ton of money when you buy. Tv ads you as an adviser you get fifteen percent off the top lot of times. It's you're buying ads from your own agency. That is an outside agency. That is or your partners. What she is talking about is a sclerotic democratic party that is running campaigns. That may or may not have been successful years ago decades ago. And they're continuing to do so because people are making money off of it and they're in the position of making those decisions. Did you see connor. Lamb responded say an. Afc doesn't know what she's talking about this attempt to gara says says she doesn't have any idea how we ran the campaign or what we spent but it's public. He may not have known that he spent eight thousand in the last month in one thousand three hundred thirty one in the last four days so she's he came out. He was interviewed. He did not that he spent so little on facebook. He doesn't even realize that that that information is public. Tim mackerras was bernie sanders top Was his digital of fundraiser. So what we're dealing with is a democratic establishment. There's an ideological argument to this. Put that aside for a moment. We're dealing with the democratic establishment that has become ossified. A ossified hussien help out here. Matt that is because that's right ossified and they continue to rely on a model of running campaigns that is failing over and over again in is being maintained only because those people in the positions of making these decisions are making a lot of money off it. We will have more to say on this in the coming decades. Tomorrow david dain. We'll be on to talk about. Joe biden can do even if he doesn't have that senate but if you're in georgia or your around georgia you know people in georgia or you can go to georgia very important runoffs. All right and we'll head into the fun half in just a moment. That is our time joining us in the phone. Half ammo show up. We'll be talking about all sorts of different things just a reminder. It's your support that helps us program alive. You can become a member of joined. The majority report dot com. When you do you not only get you only scoring free show but you're getting all sorts of new material in the fun half so check that out. Also don't forget am quickey aim quickie dot com. You can sign up you. Get more information You get what seven minutes of headlines in the morning also just coffee dot co friday. Coffee tea or chocolate. Use the coupon code majority ten percent off. What else owned today This week gon. Na a nomi- show should be pretty awesome. No me really understands this dynamic of the Of this of this basically this juggernaut that makes money off of campaigns. I mean look. It's the hardest thing in the world to tell someone whose job it is Whose money depends upon something that what they're doing is wrong. This is in every business. This is not just a question of politics or that. There's some type of unique corruption. here it is. It's simply the reality of this is the way that they've always done it. And it's much easier and well much more profitable to say. Oh no this is a question of ideology and then just basically say we're gonna go with a fifty fifty chance of winning. The democrats should have done better. They should have done better in these races. There is no Possible way you could run an enterprise like the democratic party without believing that they should have done better. There was a failure to brand the democratic party down ticket true but just on basic practices. They failed. They failed because they're protecting a certain ideological bent. We'll talk more about that in the coming weeks but you can check out. I know michelle. She's not doing it Live today but Youtube dot com slash. The no mckee show now mcghee show also. Don't forget check out the antifa patron dot com slash the anti fatah matt. What's happening on cbs. We'll be doing tomorrow night. I'm not sure who the guest is. But to look forward to that also people subscribed twitch dot tv slash literary hangover albeit more active on that too a lot of changes coming in the things prettiest. But i don't want to say more than that so ooh really really gonna be a transition period. But it's gonna be fun. Yeah i well well. I'm going to give a show far for Joe biden hand Kamala harris they won. Ding dong the witch is dead Hopefully the new which will be better liberal victory day. Everybody there you go. Well i mean it's neoliberal liberal also lost neoliberal plus massive corruption and incompetence Lost is true. So maybe we'll be able to Maybe maybe we'll be able to get through Well i don't know if we're gonna this winter i think sort of set in stone on some level but We'll we'll see but for the next for the next Pandemic that comes over the summer next year. We'll be in better shape. All right gonna take a quick break. We'll be right this week. Oh sorry go ahead jimmy. I think she might have just luster to be back in just a moment with the fun half left that jamie and i may have a disagreement. Just say whatever you want about people just because you're rich. I have an absolute right. Mark them on youtube up there buggy wedding. I am not your employer the negativity. I'm sorry i didn't mean to upset you nervous. A little. Bit upset riled up. Yeah maybe you should rethink your defensive. That your fucking idiot. Switches going to get rid of you. Alright dude dude dude dude dude dude. You want to smoke his joint. Yes do you feel like you are a dinosaur shit. Exactly happy now win win. A win win. Hell yeah listen to me. Two three four five times eight four seven nine zero six five one four five seven thirty eight fifty six twenty seven one five eight three point nine billion. Wow he's the why don't you get a real job. Instead of doing on the left wing limbaugh taking their dumb juice damning dance. Dance the answer at my first period and hoping that more moves to my repertoire. Dip in this world yes. This is a perfect moment. No wait what do you make under a million dollars here use me. Fuck you fucking liberal. You belong theft. You're a quick break. We'll take a moment to talk to some libertarians out. There dick whatever vehicle. You want to drive to the library. What you're talking about. His gibbered jabs thick feeling more chill already. Donald trump can kiss all of our asses. Sam hey andy guys. Ready to to go yes. Wow that's unbelievable. This guy's got a billion on worries. I wanted to flesh out a little bit. I mean look. It's a free speech issue. You don't like me. Thank you for calling into the majority report. Them will be with you shortly.

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2024 - Trump's Corruption Miasma & Nomiki Konst On Advocating For The Public w/ Digby, Nomiki Konst & Film Guy Matthew

"Jaronnie any rumour? Where every day passable Friday. That means Monday is casual Monday, Tuesday, casual Tuesday, Wednesday, casual. Thursday, casual Thurs. That's what we call it and Friday casual shove. Giardi rob Paul with Sam Sita? It is. Beury's two thousand nineteen. My name is Sam cedar. This the five time award winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravage Gwanda canal in the heartland of America. Downtown Brooklyn USA. On the program today. Digby from the blog hullaballoo. For Heather Parton from the website, salon dot com. We'll be here to look back on the week. That was and continues to be. Also, special guest running for public advocate. Hot off her performance in the debate two nights ago. She did great. No Miki const will call in. And then still on the road legal has time. We talked him. It was like three or four weeks goes on the road. Film guy. Matthew, apparently, just living the life of of luxury. What? Road guy. Matthew. Also on the program today. Five to four Roberts votes with the liberals against the Louisiana trap law. But Susan Collins has some explaining to do as Brett cavenaugh rights to the descent, which would have affectively gutted Roe v. Wade. Meanwhile. Bays owes out Packers plan to blackmail him. As the Trump National Enquirer scandal. Thickens? Spring court makes a move to say is Lomb not a real religion. Thank you. Now and rest in peace. John dingle. Leaves us at age ninety two got into some very good shots at Donald Trump before he left, but also. Did not leave to see his dream of of healthcare in the way that he wanted. But certainly some progress Trump seeks our I should say seats another forty four right wing justices judges rather and the green new deal slam by the Trump piece does as being too ambitious. Turns out Paul Manafort is either a pathological liar or he has something to hide. Or you know, the third option. All the above or both. Trump mad that Adam Schiff is a better boss than he is and attorney general stooge Matthew Whitaker testifies to the house judicial committee. And finally Trump reverses the Obama era, payday loan restrictions. So congratulations Vokes you still have the opportunity to. To be subject to predatory loans. That will drive you into a financial ditch. A just a reminder this program relies on its members to exist weekend week out day in day out. You can become a member by going to join the majority report dot com when you do not only do we give you our heartfelt. Thanks. We also give you extra content every single day nearly almost every single day. But also always we provide you the show commercial free, though, some people complain about that. But he can check out are deals that we have on our website. Now, it's all been on usual complaints that we get well, the commercial sometimes can be fun. And also, there's some frankly good deals. Yes. Go to joy bird, get twenty five percent off. I'm that one big time. That's a good one. There's maybe a nice chair. I may get there. Anyways. I don't wanna get any free plugs. But. Let's just did. Well, I did. I also got a really nice note that I was going to save for for when we're doing a Harry's. But apparently somebody uses the body wash. And they really like it. Gulag Greg, Greg. He's as the body. So you can become a member. The product we should put. Gulag Greg indoors. So you can become a member today by going to join the majority report dot com to clips before we bring in Digby this one from the state of the union, I was trying to express this the other day as we were doing our. We prerecorded the intro to Wednesday's show because Thursday night got pretty late and involved a lot of alcohol, and I was trying to communicate. How much Donald Trump did not seem to be connected to the words. He was saying and the idea that he had clearly only read the speech may be once maybe once. And I think nothing captures that more than his inability to differentiate between these two ideas. They're just they just seem to be all words that he's reading they have no meaning whatsoever. And here is this just a short clip to illustrate that point. All children born and unborn are made in the holy image of God. The final part of my agenda is to protect American security. Kit. That's Pelosi's faces just sorta precious. She's like, I wait what we're saying earlier that she's like, she's basically breaking in new sinew and her face so incredulous, she is started over because this is how it should be like delivered. All children born and unborn are made in the holy image of God. The final part. Of Maya, Jen. Okay, posit. So it was supposed to be all children are made in the holy image of God new paragraph. The final part of my agenda is national security. That's mostly what happened, but because he's not conscious of like, he doesn't has no attachment to these words he is literally reading this as if English was a second or third language to him. He's good at the. But it's not, you know, it's he has no idea. What the words mean? And he's just reading them off with no intonation. Because again, he doesn't realize like new thought they can edit it better. They could get get fix it post. That's how I read at exactly exactly. Razors. Good razors are good. The final part is the code. You can't even do it. You can't even it's almost impossible to like to just off the top of your head because it goes against all of the things that we know when we get attached to language, but all right? Here's the here's another clip. This is pretty good. Oh, do we have people. Should check our Instagram thing. John benjamin. And Larry Murphy made a great graphic that we put up on our Instagram. Come you know, we have an Instagram account? You know that? I was aware. Yeah. It is in we retitled it. It's. The majority of port with Sam, cedar. We are Instagram specialist was I saw the Instagram specialist came in and cleaned house. Yes, they did. And if you had over there now now, it's it's a little bit cleaner and each little morsel Instagram is precious. We don't, but it's very funny graphic that shows sensibly a Fox News poll those who oppose taxing people over ten million those in favor seventy percent those against well. You'll have to find out that's a little tease. But meanwhile, here is what was no who what is this this clip number. What that you have up there? This is Maria Bartiromo borrow MO and she is on Fox News with Shannon bream. That's her name and Bill Hemmer is Hemmer. Sleepy today. I dunno sleepy's euphemism little bit less loosey goosey. Okay. Okay. He's all right. Sometimes he gets a little bit. He is real demeanor change these days anyways, here they are. They're talking about, you know, why you shouldn't tax wealthy people on their wealth. Here's the headline Wall Street Journal new democratic gender. Sure looks like government control over the means of production. So they went through Medicare for all and doors five sixteen other senators Kamala Harris had the line last week. Let's limited all that. Meaning the employer insurance because the green the new green deal endorsed by forty house. Democrats guaranteed government job for all. Here's Jilib ran has tweeted in support of that. Vastly higher taxes now being debated in the House Ways and means committee to raise taxes even higher. There's some of the headlines from that. And when you're looking at Medicare for all it's actually as James James Freeman says all the time Medicare for none because you're replacing private health insurance companies with a new self payer one pair government. Assistance Medicare program. So that's of course, that's socialism. And. I'm not clear on why it's Medicare for none. Or why itself payer because it's like it's just because it's just like Venezuela. I get it now though, Chicago politics. So that's of course, that's socialism. And then the green deal, this is an idea where the government is in charge, and the government is allocating resources to individuals. Everybody has the same. What does that do for productivity? We talked about that in the past. You know, why would you wanna work really hard to think that you can in fact achieve success? If you know that no matter what you do. It's all the same as the next person. It's hard to believe it and that Wall Street Journal piece. Also, you know, this is an interesting theory because we have seen worker productivity rise. So exponentially over the past thirty years or so that forty years that the minimum wage is about if it follow. Productivity would be somewhere in the low twenties an hour. So this concept of and these people I got news for you. They're there. They would never be in danger of paying the top top marginal tax rate. As they work yet. Their productivity continues to go up. Maybe that's why because they're not afraid of paying the top marginal tax rate do as the next person. It's hard to believe it. And that Wall Street Journal piece also took on Elizabeth Warren's proposed wealth tax and said this warrants once a new two percent wealth tax on assets over fifty million dollars and three percent over one billion dollars including assets held abroad, France, recently, junked its wealth tax because it was so counterproductive and such attacks has never been levied in America this government confiscation merely. Someone has earned or saved more money than someone else. Socialism. Exactly, I love the way they wrote that actually and it's true confiscation. Because the truth is you can work your whole life work, really hard achieve success make money, and then get it taken away confiscated by the government. These policies times lead to unintended consequences where people will actually see that they're being overtaxed. I see that they're being their money's being confiscated, and they will come up with various structures to hide income. And so at the end of the day, the government's not getting that revenue anyway, I'm talking. What's mazing about this here? He is. She's a business news, right? And she is conflicting wealth and income. They're going to hide their income because of a wealth tax. No, they would HUD their income. They do now because of an income tax, which we also, incidentally, have a wealth axe. I guess she's arguing that the hide their income while the wealth as long as we can see the well, or at least part of it. We'll get two percent of that wealth. It's much more aggressive punitive approach to that as well. So if the issue that she's concerned about is lack of regulatory authority and investigative powers by the IRS to get that money. I think we could take care of that. So. Tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime. Is there another area where they're like? Oh, people might not follow these laws, therefore, these laws shouldn't exist. Three strikes laws people still shoplift. Exactly. I I would actually maybe we'll really do bring in the for this forget about the IRS. Let's just get the hard course seal team six actually say that they're being overtaxed see that they're being their money's being confiscated, and they will come up with various structures to hide income. And so at the end of the day, the government's not getting that revenue anyway, I'm talking about legal structures in some ways where people try their hardest to change the way their income is measured. And that's one of the unintended consequence. It will clearly be an issue in the primary the democratic campaign. Yeah. All these Ken is going to be asked about it where they where they stand things. I saw business network yesterday afternoon. It was not FOX business. The. Banner on the screen that attacking socialism attacking attacking socialism with the presence face behind say the union now segment better than that thing. I was I was I took a double take Deva take. No, he didn't take a double take. He took a double take. We could just go back on that. I mean this getting petty here. But I just wanna say the unit. Better than I was. I was I took a double take. He is so scared of socialism. He can't even talk right now. It's great. Socialism coming bottle. Well, maybe why does he drink? Well, there you have it the it's so it is pretty funny though, to hear them read this off as if like they're almost like holding back laughs laughter, and it just doesn't match up with the words when they're saying like proposing a two percent tax on wealth over fifty million dollars. I think if it went for too much longer, they'd probably start crying. Well, I know what they say we laugh to keep from crying, of course. But when they deliver their stuff, and they're attempting to make it sound bad and stupid. It can't help but resonate with people. Just go. I'm not sure what's so funny about two percent on fifty million is gonna be there. They're lying on tone of voice to make the argument. Exactly. All right. We gotta take quick break. When we come back. We'll be talking to dig. Mission. We are back. Sam cedar on the majority report on the phone. It is a pleasure to welcome back to the program. A regular Friday guest laze in gentleman who inspired this little Diddy. Oh you. Dead bay. I'm fine. I'm ready. You're ready now, I know you've been watching even watching the the Whitaker hearings. And we were watching this beforehand. Just give us a brief update. What what's happening up to this point with Whittaker? They. Jerry, Nadler has been has been rather of I guess he's his toe the line in this instance, right Whitaker was saying that he wasn't gonna show up unless he was promised that there would be no subpoena. But the first thing and so Nadler said if you as long as you answer, they'll be no subpoena. And when he got here when he got to the committee shortly after it was clear, he was he was started stonewalling Nadler said, you know, what we could subpoena you 'cause you're you're not really holding up your end of the bargain that was pretty I was pretty happy with that. But what's happened since then well since then as far as I know I've been I haven't watched for the last ten minutes or so, but prior to that it was pretty clear that Whitaker. I mean, he obviously been prepped for this and was prepped with some sort of wooden halting answers that were designed to set, you know, I will not discuss my private conversations. He didn't explicitly evoke executive privilege or that weird Jeff Sessions and Steve Bannon and the rest of them who had evoked one of the things that Naylor was trying to do was to sort of deal with the fact that they have been in the two years prior coming up to the hill and evoking this weird privilege that doesn't exist. In other words, saying well, I'm not gonna say anything the president might want to evoke executive privilege in the future. That's not how it works. President has to do it. That's his his his privilege, and he has to say, you know, no, you're not allowed to talk about this that's executive privilege. So they've been trying to change that. And I think that Naylor a lot of this thing around Whitaker, and this particular, you know, sort of controversy that's been going back and forth. I don't know. If people followed it over the last few days, but Naylor had you know, obviously Whitaker had been stalling and trying not to actually have to make this appearance before he left. Before William bar was confirmed. But they they were unable to do it. So we ended up having to come up, and what Naylor had done back in January was sent up a series of questions. I'm giving you these questions in advance. So that you can ask the president if he wants to invoke executive privilege, if he does then you left let us know forty eight hours in advance. So that we can properly prepare the committee. That's reasonable. Well, they ignored it or p for God or something. But any case he didn't respond? So Naylor said that you know, they decided to hold a vote in the committee as to whether or not they would subpoena him if he decided not to show up at all which was entirely possible. The way they were acting was Whitaker which is going to blow off the hearing. They put in bar, and that would you know, allegedly be the end of that. And neither was having end of it. So they went through this subpoena battle back and forth over the idea that you know, he was you know, he was either going to comply or he was going. They were gonna start using the sanctions that. They have available to them as as the oversight as a congressional oversight. And that they were going to subpoena him. Well, they went back and forth until the end of the day yesterday. Finally, it was agreed upon that the he would not subpoena him if he came down to the hill answered the questions, and then as you say, this is what's happened this morning. So they're continuing to hearing. But from what I understood, and I may be wrong about this Naylor said, look, you know, we may have we're gonna have you come back and do a deposition, and then we'll release that, you know, under oath, and then we'll release that deposition to the public. So I don't think this is over. And I think you're right that Naylor neighbors not playing and neither are the neither of the rest of the committees in the congress. They're not playing they are absolutely going to press this stuff. And and as I've been watching Whitaker this morning. I mean, this is just he's just saying he didn't invoke executive just saying I'm not going to talk about this refusing to talk about this stuff. I don't talk about about ongoing investigations which would be fair enough. Normally, but he did do it in the press conference the other day. And he also said that, you know, he's also saying that he won't discuss his private conversations with president which to me indicates that he had them in some respect or another. So that's where we are today on this. And you know, the guys just adult he has absolutely no business being in this position. At all. Let me just ask a a broader question about executive privilege. So what my understanding is what they've basically been saying is that we we've we've developed new form of executive privilege, which is the anticipatory executive privilege right because executive privilege specifically where the president president invokes executive privilege there. Nobody in the cabinet can exert can invoke executive privilege. They don't have it. They can only communicate to the committee, the president has invoked executive privilege on this particular manner. And so what sessions did. And I'm I'm reiterating what you said just to make sure that I understand too. What sessions at all? Did was like I think the president would invoke might want to invoke executive privilege for this. So I'm invoking an anticipatory executive an anticipatory privilege associated with me about what I would add the president would do with him, and that doesn't exist. That's a made up thing. What why what is it about the president invoking executive privilege? I mean, my understanding is all it is is it's just the president vote executive privilege, and the president has a reason not to talk about it. Is it just that politically? It's a societas with stuff so much from Nixon that it's toxic. I mean, like, I don't quite understand the the the the salience of this because it seems nobody cares about norms. Anyways. Well, I get I agree with you that nobody cares about norms anyways. And certainly the the the administration doesn't care. I mean, they they have no respect for more. Or even you know, the congr- constitutionally required congressional oversight. I mean, clearly they just don't care about any of that. But and I am no expert on this. So forgive me. All you lawyers experts out there, if you're listening if I get this wrong, but my understanding is that executive privilege does obviously exist it. But it's never truly been litigated. All the way, the reason we know it exists is because the supreme court agreed that it existed in the Nixon tapes case, but there were exceptions. And from what I understand from. You know, just what I've seen by TV lawyers who talk about this that it's not just something you can just blanket, you know, that that you would expect that you could just blanket -ly invoke when whenever you don't wanna talk about something. In other words, the president has to have a good reason for it. National security or some kind of you know, they want, you know, unfettered advice from their staff, and they they would be able to get that. If they had to talk about these things. In other words, it's not just a blanket sort of privilege that that the president can can invoke whenever he wants to how ever none of this stuff has been litigated. And and my personal feeling is that I think that Naylor understands that they are they're about to go into some serious litigation over this stuff this stuff. There's going to be a point at which is going to go to court, and we're going to start seeing the courts involved in that particular question of executive privilege, and it's not because Naylor necessarily wants it to be. But because they have used these weird excuses and have refused to do the the the the proper process in invoking the privilege. I mean, the president for reasons that I don't understand is refusing to do that. Or at least they've decided maybe they've. Sided that they're going to you know, I mean, look you've got some real extremists sort of lawyers on the Republican side who may have decided that they and they believe in unfettered executive power that. Maybe they've decided that they're just gonna take this all the way and say the president never has to talk about anything. He doesn't wanna talk about ever because he's the executive, and it's his privilege to not say anything, and they're just going on the assumption that the American people, or at least American people they care about are fine with that. So I mean, that's my that's my guess on that that Naylor in the rest of the people in this year committee understand that this is just a beginning. And they're trying they're setting up a series of probable, confrontations because they know this is going to be going to be litigated down the road. I mean, I could be wrong. I'm just guessing on that. But that's how it looks to me. I mean, this all seems very kind of it's thought out on the on the democratic side for sure that they are actually they've been plotting this knowing that. They were going to be coming up against as much possible resistance as they could get so. And let's get this resolved is early in the in the proceedings as possible because it's there's only going to be more stuff. In some ways. They're like, okay. Let's let's just address the process issues early. So that we can continue on with these investigations, and they're multi ones, obviously, and we should say the investigations range. I mean, if there was no Muller investigation, right? There would be still a record breaking number of needed investigations from just the sheer. I don't know if I will call a graft or corruption that is existed so far in the Trump administration each. Cabinet member seems to have their own sort of uniquely. Impressive corruption scandal. Which is which we also saw this week, which was fascinating. And I think so much of this stuff gets rolled into the Russian vestiges. But presuming there was no question of whether there was rushing collusion, or whether you know, all the lying that's gone on and all excetera etcetera. The money laundering that probably happened under Trump administration. The I should say under the Trump Trump Inc. This week the southern district of New York a know. You know, the US attorney's office opened up a an investigation into the Trump inauguration because there was so much money raised for so little delivered. And I think and I'm a I'm curious what you can tell us about why the southern district of New York would have jurisdiction over this. The other question. I have is it seems to me that it's gotta have something to do with that huge amount of money paid to a consultant who is a friend of Malania. But it could be anything, right? Well, I think it's all tied up with. Well, let me say this. I'm not sure why it's in the southern district of New York, you'd have to ask somebody who who understands those the way those jurisdictions work, but my sumptious is as a lay person that this has something to do with the Trump organization, which is in New York. And that there is I I read it very interesting piece this morning on the Daily Beast by Barbara mcquade, former. Prosecutor US attorney, I think she's from Michigan any case, she's on TV a lot and people who watch these shows probably recognize her, but she had a very interesting take on that on this on the inauguration and some the other stuff 'cause we also learned this week that the southern district has been interviewing members of the Trump organization. So we don't know if that's connected, or whether there's something else or whether or not this is one case, or you know, many cases, but hurt their e is is that this is actually has the contours of Rico investigation and Rico's recketeering act which was in invoke created back in nineteen seventy mostly as a way to try and get to the the mob because what what they had done was organized themselves in such a ways to insulate the the big bosses. From from any kind of kind of criminal exposure. So they had to find a way to do it. And they they created this law, which you know, as a civil libertarian, you know, I've often thought boy, this is really reaching. But in this case, it may be the only way that they can they can do this, or at least using the premise of the, you know, sort of Rico concept of how you put together conspiracy that conspiracy case that that, you know, this may be the way that they're going about this. And this is where it has to do with the inauguration, which has to do with the Trump organization, and the fact which, you know, getting to your back here regional point if there were no Muller investigation. Demere fact that the president of the United States refused to divest himself of his business and put it into a blind trust or do something other than just say. Well, my boys are in charge and leaving it up to them would be cause for a tremendous amount of investigation theory. Radically criminal investigation as well. Because this is it's not just a constitutional problem with the emoluments. There's obviously been paid a play which is what we're looking at with this occupation situation. We've got massive amounts of money that were raised it really appears just judging from this person that you mentioned who was Maloney's friend who ran it. It may actually be that she wants being a big whistle blower on this thing because it was just revealed that she their tapes between her and Michael Cohen that were picked up during Mike the rate on Michael going offices in which she's talking about her own misgivings about the way this money was spent and how she had tried to bring it up and was told to keep it quiet, and this, and then, you know, you've got Rick gates who is the manafort's, you know, major Domo who has been cooperating with Muller, and, you know, maybe cooperating with the southern district of New York as well. Because that's he was on the inauguration committee. And so all of this money was turning around he based like twice as much as Obama's in two thousand. And we know the results it wasn't like, you know, they had a lavish right there ammonia or anything. So the money went someplace, and and there were there's all these foreign in, you know, apparent you know, kind of slush fund of foreign investors in there. I mean, it's quite an ugly thing, and then all those tentacles come into the Trump organization, then you know, they come back out into the Muller investigation. And all of this is intertwined so, you know, this is very this is the kind of situation conspiracy sort of situation where you could see the Rico statute kind of being put to use to try and put the whole thing together. I am convinced this based on nothing I should say or very little, but I'm just the whole thing sounds to me like and again like this is complete speculation. That this was a way of funneling money to Milania like I'm sure there was other things that they were doing this. But when her best friend or her friend is getting gets literally like twenty was twenty five million dollars for consulting fee. That sounds like to me a back door way of paying off Milania. Like, I'm sorry that I won the president's all the reporting was extremely mad and. Something's got you know, like. The idea that her best friend is rod in and then it's just sort of like shuttled away. That's just sounds to me like, you know, these are all professional money launderers. And and so the idea of like, you know, this is the way we this is the way we deal with things we money comes in one end, we give it out another end, we make sure that it's not traceable in some fashion. I mean, and this this seems to be fairly straightforward. The southern district of New York is going to be able to follow that money. It seems to me. Fairly easily, right? Like it goes into your Bank account. Then let's find out where it goes after that, maybe some place in the Cayman Islands would be my guess. But it's gonna be pretty pretty nuts. I think once we start to dig into that. And again, this is an investigation that if it was just that this, right? If it was just this it seems like that would be a huge huge scandal. But think about this. You know, Trump said yesterday he woke up on the wrong side of the bed yesterday morning and accident watched MSNBC and heard that Adam Schiff was, you know, hiring some people, you know, from that had once worked in the White House national Security Council, and he heard this story and he was completely freaked out. And he did his usual tweet tantrum. And in the core in that tweet tantrum he said this has never happened before. No, president has ever been investigated like this. This is outrageous. This is you know, all disgusting etcetera. And we know how he feels you know, he's a. Whiner, maybe the most, you know, the cifs whiner in world history. And so he was he was really upset and the idea that he, you know, he's there have been investigations his entire life. Starting Richard Nixon and his abuse of power and corruption all the way through to Benghazi every single decade, there's been there have been you know, they run contra. And of course, there was Clinton which the whitewater case was about some, you know, crappy land deal from the nineteen eighties from you know, decades before that was worth thirty thousand dollars. They spent years and years investigating that. And he's acting like nobody's ever done this before. Well, you know, they need to look in the mirror because of course, it's been done before. And by the way, the people who, you know, have really been crooks and all this where you know, where the Republicans Clinton turned out to be just you know, it was all kind of penny any God. Thicke Arkansas nonsense, and you know, Benghazi. My God, they spent you know, years on that for no good reason. So, you know, he needs to stop complaining and recognize that, you know, he's apparently didn't take this into consideration before he ran for president that you know, if your criminal, and you're running a criminal enterprise, maybe not a good idea. Well, which yourself under this kind of scrutiny because it was always going to happen. He may also be fair. He also may have thought I'm never going to win. And so no one's gonna love this type of scrutiny. I think there's two things going on. I think it's one he didn't he was gonna win. And so I didn't think you'd be subject to the scrutiny and two I think this is sort of the cavenaugh principle. It's like, hey, wait a second. I'm now part of a class of people who don't have our my forebears did not get held accountable. This is not fair. That's what we like. This is a loss of privilege for me. And. I should not be held to this level of account. I feel like is part of it. But let's also just turned to this other thing that sort of fascinating. So Jeff Bezos, I guess it was yesterday takes to medium and writes, a letter to the world basically saying that he got contacted by the folks at National Enquirer who are concerned about the investigations, the Washington Post is doing into the relationship between the Enquirer in the Saudis and the Trump administration, and basically said we have dick pics of you that you took and your girlfriend and. Boy, it would really suck for you for them to get out into the public. Maybe we should meet in the context of all the stuff that you're pursuing you know, in terms of chasing us down. And B's owes basically said I'm the richest guy in the world, and I live in my own universe. And so I don't care what picks you have my penis. I am going to out you. And that's what happened and. I don't know for me. The really fascinating part was how much he talks about Saudi Arabia in this piece. Right. Like, it just seems like a little bit of a Bank shop. But it's as if he is his way of threatening them like with like, look, I want you just to be aware. We're much closer to finding some connections that you may not have thought of and we're going to put it out there right now. This is the way that we leak stuff out there. Oh, absolutely. There were there. And there are a lot of rumors to that effect that the, you know, the post has some kind of information, you know, I mean, they were the the employers of. You know, they were and they've been truly I think the people at the post who worked with him. I think they end reporters in general, but especially at the post, but we're just completely appalled by what happened. And also the fact that that, you know, Trump, and Jared Kushner apparently was helping NBS Mohammed bin Salman, you know, with his damage control on the story was calling him up and saying, hey, let me help you out here. They're truly appalled offended by this. And so they've been pursuing this and at the same time. I think that that base os hired, you know, one of the country's most, you know, well known private investigators. What's his name Gavin to Becker? I think. Excuse me. Out in Hollywood, you know, he's very well known as a, you know, super top investigator. And I, you know, I think I'm not surprised that basis would hire him, and he's also been on this. And they're of course, basis was sending shot across the bell there. Which is kind of like, hey, you know, are you sure you wanna go here? Are you? Sure, you wanna mess with this. And I think that that a lot of that has to do with the fact that I don't think basis cares about as Dick's, you know, he's the richest man in the world, you know, whatever, you know, and. Anyone else penises after that? Or it doesn't matter. Yeah, cares. And I none of us care about Dick's at this point. It's like, you know, what we've seen one dick pic we've seen them. All right. So, you know, this is no big deal. And and the fact that base os. You know is extremely powerful is terms of its wealth and in terms of sex that he owns Washington Post. You know, I think that that he's decided to to take a, you know, to take to use that power that he has as a billionaire or excuse me as Howard shelters and man of means that he had he's gonna use that to try and push this. And and you know, actually, try and do use his power for good in this one respect. I mean, I'm not trying to give him a pass and all the rest of it. But in this case, I mean, hey, you know, this is a really, you know, intr- interesting tactic on basis as part because when I was in a second. I guess it was the sixth grade. Charlie add cook caught a note that I'd sent to a friend in which I called the teacher bitch, and he was black. He blackmailed me for it. And was saying he was going to tell her, and I had to give him money and do all that. So I took the note to the teacher. All right. All right. Got a note that breaking news. We broke some news gut. About Charlie Adcock. Right. The whole story. Right. Right. I know it's a big one really really interesting. But I'm just saying that this is this is one way to deal with blackmailers. Right. We're just just take take it upon yourself to just sort of go in admit that the thing happened. And in the end, the blackmailer often looks way worse for have for doing what he did. So I think that that's what his what his approach is here. And I think you know, he's done himself some good too. I mean, the dick pic said at least of it. Right. I mean at this point we may be talking about an international incident that could reflect very very badly on on the on the inquirer. And also on this thing choirs been doing this with Trump's enemies for a long time. Right. I mean, this this came out during the Coen thing. I mean, we knew that pecker was called up to Trump Tower when Trump decided to run for for president and Trump said, so how can you help me help me with this campaign? And pecker said, well, let's see what we can do here. So I mean, the idea that there's a political overlay here that perhaps he was also helping out his friends friend. Trump is is also a big part of this. Yeah. And I I mean, more and more it sort of feels like there's this group of guys who were friends or just like we're going to get in on this deal. And there's all these like, you know, it's sort of reminds me of I can't his name escape was Collins who is the congressman who is like getting insider information for stocks. And what's it Collins and was like I've made for millionaires in congress. You know, they're they're all rich because me. It's like all the money to sort of flowing around with these guys, and you start to wonder, you know, you know, with the with the Saudis and UA. I mean, there's just I don't know there's a lot of stuff flowing through here. And it just seems like it gets more and more layered as we go, but Digby, thanks for unwinding. Some of this. Go back to watching the Whitaker the Whitaker's. Well, I I need to I need to catch up on it after the show. So I'm gonna go read what you've written about it. As always thanks so much for your time today. Digby having me Sam have a great weekend. Everybody. All right, folks. We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back. We're gonna be talking to candidate for public advocate. We are just days away from the like literally a couple of days away from the the end of the period where matching grants where you can make enough money to get matching grants in the public advocates race super important. And this is coming off the heels of a debate the other night Nomi concerts gonna join us in just a second. We are back Sam cedar on the majority report on the phone. It is a pleasure to welcome to the program. The former TY T correspondent, the former are you still a member of the the unity commission on for the Democratic Party? I don't actually think we we finished all of our business. Like, there's a DNC meeting every six months, and I think we have a couple of things it's still be voted on. But for the most part, you don't meet anymore. It's not a commission that hold hearings. He published report. But we haven't adjourned ourselves. I guess that goes then I will introduce you as a current candidate for the public advocate position in New York City would the election. Just literally what is it two weeks away? Right. Oh my God. Don't freak me out. Yes. It's Tuesday, February twenty six Jomon Nomi const is joining us. Hello, no me, see how I really dragged out that intro. All right. Well, so there was a debate first off let's start with this because this is hugely important. And I've been talking to people about that a lot of people don't realize that New York City has one of the best public financing schemes for candidates in the in the country where you get where they will match eight to one dollar for dollar up to two hundred fifty dollars. So that big money can't influence. You know to dramatically they will will match as long as you get past threshold of how much in the context of of your race. So for this race because it's very it's a very unique rates special election on its sixty two thousand five hundred dollars, but get more technical you. You wanna overshoot it because people still their names wrong? They have the wrong address avenue instead of road and the CFC campaign finance part of the city because this is taxpayer money the very strict about this. And and people have got a lot of trouble for abusing the system in the past. So we we are trying to overshoot and raise about eighty thousand dollars in matching funds. But of course, we're receiving donations from all over the country and we've raised over hundred and twenty five thousand, but it's a big deal soon as we hit this deadline. A we are able to spread our message in these final two weeks, which is the time when everyone starts to pay attention. And if you're out of if you if you live outs. In New York City, you still give through the link that we have on the majority dot FM play page. But if you're in New York City know that if you give five bucks up to two hundred and fifty you can multiply that times eight, and that's how much money gnome is gonna get for her run. And so that out of the way you had a debate two nights ago. There were one nine candidates on the stage at least. Total of ten nine others nine others. And so give me your sense of how that debate went. It's funny because I've I've been debating since I was a kid like, it's my it's one of my favorite pastimes. I always feel very different about it. And then I watch it, and they see something that's very different than what I felt when I was on stage. So you know, I was actually notice I'm going to be completely opened on us. If you weren't a candidate stage nervous, you probably associate frankly, but there's a lot of those politics. I was I was very excited to see that online. Most people said that we won the press has been a little funny about it. Because we got almost the most airtime the only person that a little bit more than us was the former speaker, Melissa Mark Garrido, but the feedback on her airtime was not positive. So the end of the day. I think that we probably did the best in the debate. And the and the biggest reason is is that what separates us from the rest of the candidates on stage is we? Are not in bed with real estate developers. There's. Hundreds of thousands of dollars that have been thrown around Pau possibly millions actually in in this race in previous races. People are using developer money in this race from old accounts. And while all of them were talking about, you know, band-aid issues we were able to get to the heart of it and say, no, you can't do this. If you don't deal with tax developers. Did you can't do these things on? Let's you deal with taxing, you know, these Amazon the tax games, and I think that resonated with folks, I call that a lot of folks who've who've portrayed themselves as progressives in the past. But then I I asked questions about why they were aligned with certain financial interests. And you know, I think I think that one well for my next one couple of weeks. We'll see how that one goes. There's a there's I know this question of taking real estate developer money has been one of the cornerstone stones of your campaign. And I think anybody who knows New York City politics knows that. The big some of the biggest issues, really frankly center around housing, whether you know, and that bleeds down to the integration of our schools. It bleeds down base it bleeds down to who can afford to live in the city, it bleeds down to public transport. So this is this is you know, every everything sort of downstream of this question. So I know some of the other candidates we've had people ask us about this. Why isn't the the pledge? I think it is by the New York rental of rental association. Why isn't that sufficient as opposed to what you where you have staked your flag on in terms of of taking no developer money whatsoever. Why is it not enough to say, I don't take four profit developer money? I think you know, at the end of the day, you see these I called them. I actually said this on stage in the debate that there's developer philanthropy being given out. So take these rezoning that are happening. There was a it was an a little bit of moment where the former speaker the city council ever Reto, I asked her questions if you ran on an anti gentrification Pudge when I moved moved east Harlem and ran for for council, but soon after you started taking developer money, and you were part of a of a developer philanthropy scheme in which rezoned your neighborhood. But it was an exchange for building these big these big buildings that are fancy luxury apartments that hand out a couple of affordable apartments in them. And that's not that's not actually preserving affordable housing in New York. That is a partnership that really lefties developers get their tax breaks. And then they throw a little bit of candy. City, but they're changing the neighborhood. They're making it more expensive for people to rent around those buildings. They're driving up the cost of living driving up the commercial rent costs, and they're not contributing back on top of it. So, you know, this is an old scheme in the city since since real estate's been deregulated in the mid seventies. And I think a lot of Democrats have used as cover because they have some sort of audible housing plan, but that's just for land therapy. And I think that we need to get off of this the the the developer model of they decide how we fund our. You know, the billionaires decide how we fund our city and not the people, and I thought the same thing about the MTA I said. Question. Do you think that the governor's Toby MTA or the mayor's twelve EMT? And I well, I think the MTA should be municipal is. I think it should be controlled by the city. You know, when you have political appointees on the board of MTA one of which is a developer that didn't even live in the city. You know, that's determining the lifeblood of the city. That's the trimming whether or not small businesses are able to afford the rents. There's these subway stations that got shut down on the story where I am right now for over a year and a half and dozens of businesses have shut down because subway stations were shut down just for you know, the renovations they had are all just like digital enhancements. It's not actually fixing 'em ta so we gotta get to the heart of it by taking on these developers tax breaks. All right. I know you just got a couple of minutes here because you gotta get to another interview. But lastly, what what over the course of this because we spoke to about a month or two ago. Maybe. Leading up to this. Has have you has your perspective on things changed at all of their things? Some things that have become clearer that are more problematic than others as you've dug into this. Yeah. I mean, it's fascinating to see how the New York City campaign finance board. While we do have a better system. It is still very very very hard for candidates who are grassroots to raise the money to be able to not only receive the matching funds, but also to be able to compete on stage. So the debate you have to not only have gotten on the ballot. Not only have have you. Did you have to raise a certain amount of money to spend a certain amount of money. And that is I just think it's not very fair for democracy. I mean, sure you wanna make sure that the candidates are viable, but when the limits are as they are it really does empower those who come from, you know, law firms or developers or you're in line with certain interests institution that can just your bosses, can you can you bundle two hundred fifty dollar checks. And so people who are coming from. Offer have the partners law firms telling the associated to give money and then very quickly. They're able to qualify for matching funds. Whereas our campaign has collected thousands of donations from New York outside of New York, but split in half just like all the other candidates, but we have way more small dollar donations way more contributions and all the other candidates, and we have the lowest contribution that's taking a little bit longer to get to matching fund, but the end of the day these are voters. These are people are organizing on the streets. These are the people who are gonna be voting this low turnout election. And I think the biggest disappointment is that most people in New York don't even know that they have the public advocate, which is there to represent them, which is there to make sure that their interests are brought to the table against these these special interests and just one more thing they add if anybody's offense, you're every single New York City elected official has received developer money opponents in this race are playing a lot of. Right now, they're using like, you know, they're saying go. There will know me she was twenty seven dollars from a grandma who rents for basements, her grandson. But at the end of the day. My opponents have received ten thousand some cases, hundreds of thousands of dollars from the worst pay to play real estate developers like the Ratner family, and you don't get that money unless you sit down with Ratner's, and you cut a deal. And I and I think, you know, the press is not really reporting on that fairly and part of the reason why the press is not reporting on our race. Just like they don't report on Bernie Sanders or don't get fair treatment is because we go against this model. We got more airtime than anybody else met stage and the press near time barely even mentioned us. So we just have to keep organizing we have to keep talking to each other. I'm so grateful for your reporting Sam because you actually pay attention to the details and follow the money and know your history, and you're not bought by these folks who we really wanna take on. Normally a wish you good luck. There's a link at majority dot FM if people want to support your your your campaign and over in it's Monday. Is that right is the deadline for Monday. The eleventh the eleventh. Yes, monday. Tell your family and then afterwards come here. Good luck. Nomi? Thanks for coming on think. Thank you Sam. So folks, that's the deal. If you live in New York City, you you can donate. I guess I don't know what the the maximum is two thousand dollars. But to fifty the I two hundred and fifty dollars of that will be matched by the city. If you're a New York City resident, and you gotta get it in there now. So we have a link we just tweeted it out. We also have it on the the front page of the blog will put it in the YouTube thing, and you donate five dollars. It's like donating forty donate. Ten. It's like you're donating eighty. That's right. We can go around like winning. This is don't let the math get to. This is this is literally what we do at dinner with with with Mylan, Saul doing anything to know Miki with myla doesn't. Participate, but with Saul, I just keep everything is a math problem for him. He loves math. And that's probably where we're going to have our biggest fights I was gonna say 'cause we're pretty editorially opposed to mount thought at one point. I'm just going to be like if you continue few insist on doing these type of. Gee, algebraic problem. You take it out of my out. Actually, be amazing. It's not gonna happen in my hand my rules threaten there. No math about doing math. That's awesome. That is new terrain and child abuse. So folks, if you're if you are contemplating. Giving money to to know me in this public advocate rates, do so and again, you know, for me, I think this came up the other day when we were talking about somebody asked us about Jimani Williams who I am. You know, broadly, speaking, very, supportive and certainly was in his state wide race. But. With all due respect to to know me. She's a little bit of of a bridge burner and like your highest form of respect for. Yes. But I mean, most people think like, oh, wait it. But it's true. And like she is willing to. Not make friends in pursuit of what she thinks is the right thing to do. And in the context of this job. I have known some form of public advocates before. In fact, we have some. We have some former air America folk who have come into the office as well. Some former majority report well one. Yes. One in one Kelly tear Dorsey here, we're gonna wait to the fun half to get guys on camera because Vika people haven't seen Dorsey ages ever, maybe on camera. And but we Dorsey you were there. Right. When we had the we've had experience with another public advocate, not gonna say the name nothing to say the name. All right. I don't want anybody to get turned green with envy because I'm not saying the name, but. And my experience of that guy was here's a guy who took that job who's going to do one or two things that are gonna look showy, but he's making deals in fact, he's not even making deals going and having dinner almost a multiple times a week. We one of the biggest real estate developers in the city commercial, his brother, and that's also why his brother was of this is a good place to have my my my brother sitting in this job because I'm that I'm covered. And this is a problem in the city. So you need somebody who's willing to go in there and say, I know, I probably don't have any future democratic politics. And therefore, I don't need to make friends with certain people. I don't need to be worried about offending certain people. And from my perspective, that's the type of person you want as public advocate in New York City. It is still a relatively new position. And is one of those jobs where it will be what the person in the job makes it, and so that's that's the basis of my support. Again, head over to majority report radio dot com or check out our Twitter feed. You will find a link. Let's take a quick break. Matthew, film guy is still on the road. I know that's why we're calling him to find out. What the hell is going on? We'll be right back after this. It's no crime. The keys. It's red. In this week. The street screen says, no. So those no love. No more. Shadow. That's pass. Ladies and gentlemen, on some Fridays. We play this. Okay. Gotta get them. All Matthew, film guy. Now when I texted you and asked if you could do this. I thought surely by now Matthew is back from Boca, Boca, del Boca Raton, and his left the confines of his grandmother's compound there. He is he is drained everything that could be drained from tequila willies, and he is back in in queens. Resuming his duties anywhere from shooting corporate videos to shooting directing comedy specials or teaching at the JCC learning annex elderly folks about film and yet. No, you're all world's greatest longest vacation. I agree. I agree. It has been the greatest big Asian. Yeah. And we're really we're wrapping it up here. I made a stuff here. I'm talking to you from wonderful Knoxville, Tennessee where my sister lives with her husband and my baby needs. So I'm getting some family time on the way home Mary in the puppies here. So we're very close returning. I had to come back by the twelve which is when my next senior citizens film class starts, you know, I've been working remotely. But that one I got to be there for how long have you been gone for your already living, the the the the democratic socialists dream, aren't you? I mean, you know, listen, there's a fine line between being freelance and being unemployed. You know, so with we alienated conversed freedom. You know? So I've been able to do a little bit of things that people tied down to job don't have. And I'm gonna take advantage of that. Yeah. I'm not gonna apologize for that. No way grandma to watch depressing scandal even movies do well first of all. It's actually my mother who is now a grandmother herself. Does technically fall under that rubric? And no, I don't force her. I did actually watch with my actual grandmother when she was with us. She was into these kinds of films. So she actually took me to the crying game when I was seventeen and that was an amazing experience. Clothe your grandmother. That's right. Neither of us knew what to expect. And then boy were we entertained. But. Louis entertains. Yeah. I think my grandmother like literally jumped out of receipt about four feet at the moment of truth in that movie. No spoilers. But it was quite they're memorable bonding experience between my my grandmother and my. She doesn't. She doesn't really care. We married I managed to watch about a movie day what we were down there. And my mother didn't really join us. She has her own life. So what? So wait second. So how long have you been gone? The see this, you know, calendars, just lost meeting for me at this point. I wanna say I don't know six weeks going on will be we left three days before New Year's. So where we now, man. All right. Yeah. Yeah, jealous. You guys have done. A lot of good work in my absence there I've been keeping tabs. I am so listening from the beach to tell you how jealous I am to have that type of of time to just travel around now, but I'm gonna try and fight through my resent. And at least on this front what? Yeah. On this. What? Now, what did you you? You sent me this like a film box. What letter box? What is this? I believe the couple times ago, we talked about how I transcribed my list I had of every single thought since nineteen ninety five. Well, this is the social media movie sharing website where you can lift those things and follow your friends, and you can see what they're looking at. And what they're watching, and it's got reviews, and I haven't done too many of those yet, but it's called letterbox, and it's like a social platform for sharing movies that you've watched. And so I just wanted to put it out. There have any chats with other fill film down to sometimes find me on Twitter. You can find me on there. Now, these this recent activity. I notice won't you be. My neighbor is is that you did you see that the Mr. Audrey? What did you write that was one of the ones I caught up on that? What did you think of that? I did you give that a four star air is that, you know, listen, that's one of the ones it's really hard to separate the filmmaking from my emotional connection to the content. I thought it was serviceable filmmaking. I mean, they did a good job of laying out kind of the history. And they found a lot of great rare archive footage that I'd never seen. But you gotta understand. I was definitely raised by Mr. Rogers. So I I appreciate it, especially, and as a film guy that I'm trying to like this fight about like attention spans the ability to like see things that aren't like super fast, and you know, multiple cuts per second his philosophy. I think really, you know, jibes with mine, you know, that you need to be able to have the attention to absorb certain things. And to be extent that you don't you miss like entire chunks of what it is to be alive. What is to be human? So in that crowded. Your real science. I mean, two or three times for sure I mean, you know, sort of tears throughout, but like a few real just like punches of just, you know, just 'cause it's like also a sense memory. Hearing those song never like all the lyrics to it was like very programmed in my DNA like literally could be the first TV show I ever watched. So that was something. And it's just amazing to see what he was an advocate for he had a, you know, I didn't realize that he had such a sort of definitive kind of teaching philosophy behind it. You know, his his sense of rhetoric and what he wanted to put out there. I thought was really sophisticated which you know, whatever three old. I couldn't have grasped. I yeah. I I agree with that assessment. I didn't think it was such a great movie. But it was it was pretty sentimental. It was also it also the timing of it couldn't be better. Right. I mean, it was almost at least as sort of the. N tiffosi to Donald Trump and some rest hasn't moved over mid you cry. I cry every movie I ever see on an airplane. I cry. There's something about the altitude. Like, I remember what is it Armegeddon is that the one with with? Live tyler. And and and who is the other guy from diehard Bruce, Willis, right? Like a baby on that. Yeah. Knows on a plane whose arm again, like I there's no movie I can see on a plane that I won't cry at about at a lower altitude lower altitude. No, I'm not gonna cry. Level. I cry movies. I mean, I I saw Ralph wrecks the internet, and I was very concerned. Ralph was not gonna get back. Wreck the internet's messing with your business. Well, he gets back. He gets vanilla. I was afraid was not gonna make it back. And then it was that that I'm not gonna lie. It was said. It was an I cry. I cry at all kinds of things Devi commercials if they hit the right note. So it's not that, you know, there's crying when you're sentimentally manipulated, you know, and then there's kind of like a more cleansing deep-healing kind of crying rare to get that one. I don't, but it's pleasurable that go through the sad feelings of kind of sentimental crisis. When there was that big mega millions, and I watched the broadcast of that. And I didn't win. I bet you cry very upset. Donald Trump cries, you know, when something doesn't go his way feeding Stamps's, you know, that kind of thing that kind of crying too. I'm looking at the the films here that you that you've listed karo that one REO s-. Are you only give that a three star? Now that that is the basis of Donald Trump's fever dreams about what's happening to. Describing yet. Yeah. That was that was good just like a, you know drug dealers. I should be watching. That's not a great. I one. Sounds like that that's my kind of movie twos. Not so great. Yeah. Yeah. That's it's just a it's just like a a well done kind of action movie with some minor political overtones. It's not it's well done for what it is. But I wouldn't call that like a great move. That's my kind of airplane movie now cry. Right. Well done but not great. That's that's what that is. I always think of you saying like Ronin, you know, with deniro. Okay. Yeah. Not great. But okay. Yeah. You're backing away from that one. You're backing away from that. I never said it was great. I never said. It was great. But I said it was worth watching. Okay. I thought that was like you kept saying to be semi more movies like that. Well, yeah. Of that, Jon Rao. Okay. Okay. That's in there that one's in their Sicario sit. Do you think mister Rogers is a comrade 'cause I kinda do? Well, I was fascinated here that he was I didn't realize he was a minister, and that he was a Republican, you know. So those two things thought we're like pretty interesting information. And it didn't mean that he necessarily like I didn't hear him say like, you know, healthcare is not a right? You know, like he didn't say anything that obvious and and his demeanor in that one the cheering fought for. Yeah. Access access is what's kitty's? No. But he he's really an old style, you know, conservative where it's like human nature is still something that you respect, you know, you're not trying to corporate ties in and and commodified every child has come through the school to prison pipeline. So that was shocking, but I think on the would you vote for Bernie. Yes, you probably would vote for Bernie at this stage. If he was around, it's it's super interesting because this one of my d say comrades had similar experience to you. Watching the film Matthew, and now he's sort of forming the basis of inspiration for this new neighborhood councils project that we're doing to try to kind of combat the atom assertion that occurs in modern urban life. So good. I mean, that's what he was all about won't you be my neighbor, you know, joining connecting with fellow humans. I mean, there was a lot of great examples and stuff in there that I didn't necessarily remember like the way he kinda normalized the African American cop as his friend put their feet in the pool together little subtle Naza. Just say like, I'm not gonna you know, hang a lantern on it as they say. But I'm just gonna show these people in things that maybe you're controversial in a way that I feel is comports with my worldview, like, we're all great. You know, we're all worth something. Despite like what we do. All right. And you also say I had I had time on on my vacation to listen to the audio book of great book that I read years ago called amusing ourselves to death by Neil postman. You guys know about this book? I read the book. Matt this on your list. No, I've read like Neil postman. Actually, founded my department that I went to NYU the media allow that awesome. Mr. Rogers boy. I want a pretentious drop. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Get that one in every shit. But I wanna say like I feel like that's kind of what I'm fighting for in these little movies segments. We do like the ability to say like, yes, there's the TV kind of stuff. There's the TV movies. There's entertainment, but we can't lose sight of the value at some point of trying to use your brain in a different. And I would consider it deeper kind of more difficult way. You know, I struggle with it too. If I watched a lot of TV, and then I try to watch a movie like winter sleep, which is on there with binary Bill Gates Shalon which I loved, but the rhythms release slow the personal interactions or not necessarily that obvious and the kind of exposition positional way that you're used to and some of the other shorter form storytelling. So in the same way that Neil postman kinda decries the death of the written word. I'm here to say like these kind of harder movies, you know, call it. Call me pretentious, or whatever you are. I think it's actually an important thing to fight for to keep alive even some small corner. Because it's not like, I'm some curious, right. Don't. Watch the TV in the kind of trashy movies, and so on, but you know, I'm trying to add into the conversation like something lost by the inability to concentrate on something for more than thirty seconds. What is what was that? So I. I gotta tell you Matthew. That's all well and good. I'm sort of convinced though that. Recorded stuff is over. We've basically we picked it's done. It's about to wrap. Oh, I am. Now only live theater only life eater. That's it for me. You can afford that. That's great. I Benjamin paid for me. I Benjamin took me all night now arby's money, don't get us. Exactly. I went to go see true west last night. And oh, you lucky. That's my favorite play. I'd have now. It's funny because I don't see a lot of theater, but I did. And I didn't realize it. I like bench was like, let's go see west. And I'm like, I don't know you're talking about. And he's like the play. Oh, okay. Okay. Yes. And our friend Gary Wilms is in it. There's only four people in the play and O'Neill play who wrote it. No, Sheppard and Sheppard and Balch vich and Sinise did the kind of quintessential PVS TV version, and that's what that's what Malkovich made Malkovich. Malkovich. Really? But I saw the Philip Seymour Hoffman. Riley version you rightly yet went to remember which who was playing who in switched roles switched every night. I don't remember. In fact, I'm fact I barely had remembered that I had seen it. And then we were walking to the play last. I seen this before in the round and or three quarters. I guess it was and I don't know who I went with or when it was was probably twenty years ago. And I think it was. Yeah. So I don't I don't remember any of it. But I saw the version last night. It was okay, Ethan Hawke, and then this other dude and all dano. Yeah. You should occasionally. Right. Not as that could be good for. Well. I was okay. It was eastern Hawkin someone else. But I didn't. Thought paid my ticket, but like John Malkovich years ago. Thank you. Even hawk was good that guy Paul dano. Apparently, he's very good in some movie Budgie. No, no. He's in the escape from Almira l Meyer is that what is gave town. More and more data more loves that show. I haven't. That was my beat for while death taxes, by the way writing about the big dick fugitive. I had no idea about any of what you're talking about. I I missed all that was a weird. That was a weird. Story. But I I didn't find the I wasn't you know, I'm not gonna go get too deep into this. But I wasn't. I wasn't blown away by all means by the by the acting. Sometimes you know, you gotta have have something onto the hood yet. Absolutely. Listen, I know what you mean. Within oak, though, was in oak the movie about the pig. I recommended a few times ago. These are different movies are different Gordon wing. It's just it's different. And that should be the column you right? Movies movies, different movies and different now? Okay. So Matha Raga. You you go from Boca Raton to where are you in Nelson? We we we went up the west coast of Florida to visit some old friends from film school in Sarasota, I then. Go to Pensacola, no, we drove past it. We drove past it. But stopped in Sarasota went up to Tampa or Clearwater, really. Then a little bit more inlands effort hills, a friend of marry that we know was there. And then we drove up here to Knoxville. So we did a couple of days, you know, as we drove up Scientology nice, you're living. You're living the life. It's great. We got like our our Mazdas like are kinda stogie all fits in there. You know, good good square footage and everything we need is just you know, one rest up away. Really did you visit that town with all the psychics Cassidy? Whoa. No. Oh my God. How do we miss that? That would have been that's like catnip to marry. Where's that? In florida. I believe there was a bright eyes album named after it, which is why I know about it. You think if you're? Humor. All your to this interview already answered and you wouldn't have just like we're psyche. Then samll say he didn't see the movie. L complain about sleep schedule. So nasty film guy is was there any adventurous or was it just oh, we just drove around Florida and saw some people we knew and then went to Knoxville or was there any was there. I don't know. Did you get into a fight with a trucker at a truck stop? Did you like no we've brought our dogs at every establishment that we visited and met with mostly approving stares. You know are two dogs Dudley. And Mabel, basically, come with us everywhere. And I think that was the most adventurous thing we have like we'd be outside like this gonna be cool. That's go in and find out, and we're just like we barge it and people go like oh, keep dogs. And then we're like, okay great that worked. Now, you go into like piggly-wiggly, they got piggly-wiggly down there. No, they have the Publix and Winn Dixie. I think we draw the line at the grocery store. We know they're not wanted there. All right because the piggly-wiggly is fun. That's that's how I know. They're just basically like Stewart's up, I guess, they got a New Yorker 'combis. Okay. Humble in 'combis, Massachusetts. But what Mary and I did watch a Mississippi burning. And so it made us a little paranoid through the south. You know, we, hey, JIMBO. I what who you got there with you? I thought you were worse southern jewelry. Matthew there is there? Absolutely is. But you know, like, we're driving through some of these more. Let's say remote areas on the highway going up there. So you know, we try to just play cool. All right. But that went down limit. That's that would have been that would have been an interesting. I'm so sorry to disappoint. You didn't spend a night in like a county jail. You know, I'm sorry to hear that. I am very sorry that all right. All right next time. I will commit some low level felony. Well, I have no doubt that you did. I just don't think that you got caught. We'll make that clarify on that now. So film guy Matthew now that you now that you're you know, I know that you've been in vacation mode, but put your I happened doing. Let me just say I haven't doing some work on the great Ted Alexandra's podcast a little bit me, which I urge everyone to go to IT and check out if they wanna hear the insider view from this does at Alexandra Jesus Christ. He's he's the guy working for right now. So let me let me pump a little bit. I thought he respected to game the game. That's all right. Talk about a more. Correct. Yeah. So anyway, that's all I wanted to say just wanted put that out there. Right. So what about it? What I've been doing that. Okay. What would you like to recommend to us to view? I'm gonna put it right here. Denman? It's incest and capitalism aren't sorry. Go ahead, jump the gun. I would see that movie at heart. I know you what? Oh, dude, you know to second. Do you know, there's an Elaine young film festival going on up here. I do I missing it. I've seen all the movies already. But I would go see it in a heartbeat. She is definitely one of my all time favorites. Okay. Listeners of the segmented probably heard me mentioning a lot. It's yeah. It's must see stuff. Okay. New leaf heartbreak kid, Mikey. And NICKY is probably my all time favorite movie of any kind. It's great off the Wichita and limited more sort of obscure ones. They get. Okay. So your movie recommendation of the week. We're getting a gun. Okay. I want everyone to go. See one of the great war films of all time. It's heroin. It's brutal. It's sort of surreal. It's really called come come and see by L M klemow if I'm saying his name, right? And it was made in nineteen eighty five and it's basically about the Nazis, brutal March through Belarus, and the kind of partisans that fought back there, and it's told through the point of view of thirteen year old boy who starts off saying like, I'm gonna go defend my village. And then within the first ten minutes villages like brutally massacred, and it's just so bad shit. Crazy. It's it's it's told in semi kind of documentary style, but a little bit of the sort of Tarkovsky and moving camera slow cinema style, but interest, admittedly, just like totally surreal and really just like shocking, come come and see come and see a Russian film, and it's available streaming on do, but also bailable on DVD's, everywhere and all your. Ternate film websites voodoo. Okay. All right there. It is February released eight nineteen eighty-seven was first released New York by LM kill mauve. All right. Great. Well, Matthey film guy. Wanna wish you a safe journey home for the rest of your trip? And I hope that it gets, you know, but it's not too too much longer. It's really that's really is knowing that you get your driving around for seventy weeks cruise around you can relax be home. I'll be home on Monday. So I appreciate it. With all this all all right, really? Matthew, film guy? Always a pleasure. Same year guys take care. Okay. Folks, we're gonna head into the fund half of the program wherein. We will have a more fun. We have some video of Candace Owen apparently head some comments on nationalism and Hitler. I'm sure that we're quite measured and learn it. Yes, I'm interested in seeing seeing that and hearing that also we have some. Oh, Brendan Straka is going to run again. They oh see that's going to be very the one person torn. But he's wanting to reward him with attention. Do do that. Please do that go through that. He also said a fringed left-wing train is infiltrating. The government is the only one that can reverse it. Right. I is that's another questionable word choice. It's definitely a mixed metaphor metaphor Dessalines those in his own words chooses words, very consciously can stop him. He's a poet creative lexicon. All right. Let's apathetically steamroll over that. And the fun half and spice. Sean Spicer is drawn finally gets on television completely. He is we've got a lot to talk about and more. We will take your phone calls may take your eye. M's course, Friday, we're going to run out of time soon over. And don't forget you can support this program by going to join the majority report dot com. Join the majority of port dot com. For just a penny day, you can support this program and also get the the fun half content. Also, just coffee dot coop. Fair trade coffee, tea or chocolate used the coupon code majority. Get ten percent off majority report radio dot com. You'll also find the link to Nomi conce that to support her run for public advocate, New York not much time to do. So. And Michael today is Friday, which means that the beginning of the week was Monday and the day the falls as Tuesday. However this week the Michael Brown show was on Thursday. Right. And it was a great show, brianna joy, gray. And Jeffrey helper check it out. You can watch the whole thing at the Michael brook show YouTube channel, and of course, get the whole thing at patriot dot com slash the NBA s Jamie. I guess so this week on the anti Fatah. We did a collaborative episode with some of our over crossover. Well, well, no because it wasn't a crossover. It was just a bunch of our excellent listeners. Most of them have been with us since the beginning who came into the studio and helped us make a pretty cool sewed with their own conspiracy theories about the various things various parts of American life that flied Putin is messing with and subverting democracy around. I can't believe that was this week. I feel like that happened. Like I now because we took some time off in the middle. And we did a livestream. And it's been very intense. Also on Monday, we were dropping a bonus for all of our patrons over treasured patrons. Andy is still in Mexico, and he caught up with Blair Taylor of the institute for social ecology at Porto Vallarta bear weekend. Which is exactly what it sounds like wherein. They talked about Murray book chin, the libertarian socialist experiment happening in Rhodesia and the growing network of radical municipal ISM building counter-power in the US. That is not what it sounds like. Oh, I mean, I guess it depends. What you think about when you hear the word bear? I think of like a bunch of big hairy gay men. Having a party. I thought was literally bearish. I don't know. But that's what when someone says. Oh, no. It's it is what it sounds like. Oh, okay. Bears. Apparently, very book chin is huge in the bear community. Not get Murray. Black lives him. Okay. I will go go this. He I know you don't like the term libertarian, socialists. So I'll call him an anarchist communist. Instead. I think you. Very influential, Matt. Literary hangover coming soon. I think next week will be the unparalleled adventures of one Hans fall by Edgar Allan Poe, which is maybe one of the first scifi stories ever. Oh, really at ground poke may have started Sifi as well as starting to -tective fiction is that right? And you don't you you like working for anybody might want to promote this guy. Edgar Allen POE here. He's coming back is there. And recognizing him. And I'm just trying to hitch my trailer to that bandwagon. Again, we gotta get reminds me to send out the majority report contributor disclosure forms. Make sure you're not promoting something that you're getting kickbacks from. Thank you got emoting, something that you don't get kickbacks from Kelley you. What? She's a big litter hangover fan thought he was just talking about the literary hanging. Oh, yes. She's actually a patron of. Wow. Very nice Kelly. Very nice. All right. 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2488 - How UFC Fighters Created a New Class-Action Lawsuit & Breaking Down Student Loan Forgiveness w/ Marshall Steinbaum

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2488 - How UFC Fighters Created a New Class-Action Lawsuit & Breaking Down Student Loan Forgiveness w/ Marshall Steinbaum

"You are listening to a free version of majority report with sam cedar to support this show and get another fifteen minutes daily program good Jordi dot s. m. please it is wednesday december sixteenth. Two thousand twenty. My name is sam cedar. This is the five time award winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravage canal in the heartland of america. Downtown brooklyn usa on the program. Today marshall stein bomb on the unlikely antitrust showdown meanwhile mitch mcconnell acknowledges biden's election and then proceeds to roll democratic leadership on covert relief while the progressive caucus ways flexing its muscle in that very deal. California orders thousands of bodybags in the anticipation of more cova deaths. While the highly effective moderna vaccine is on the brink of fda approval us negotiating a deal with pfizer for more doses and a report. Florida appears to have manipulated death reporting in the lead up to the general election. Joe biden announces where i should say reportedly to a name. Jennifer granholm energy secretary buddha at transportation and after uber spends millions of dollars on successful assault on labor law in california. It raises its prices. Lastly arkansas antiabortion law could be headed to supreme court in the beginning of multiple tests of this new court's disposition towards a woman's right to choose all this and more on today's program. Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome thank you for joining us. On today's program we have University of utah professor marshall. Steinbach a really interesting lawsuit. That is taking place in a sport. That i am not that familiar with 'em viglen who is resident sports expert. Are you at a you. Ufc you don't do any mixed martial arts. I respect that people like it. It is and i like football so saying something's too violent for me. I think that means it's too violent. But their fair enough but it is the The the qualities of the support the sport aside. This is a An extraordinary case that just got approval as a class action and it is a case being brought by labor essentially against But on antitrust principles we will talk to marshall about that and also Is a real authority on the implications of forgiving college loans and we have Many questions to ask him on that as well This just breaking there is and we're going to be talking about the the stimulus today. There's a lot of different angles to this story but as of just moments ago congressional negotiators as reported by politico are on the brink of corona virus rescue package that will include a round of direct payments. And it's interesting to note how we got here because as of yesterday there were no direct payments that were going to be included in this now of course the first round fuel remember the cares act. Emma was twelve hundred dollars. Direct payment to folks. I believe under seventy five thousand dollars income the prior year and the the payment. They're talking about now is about half that of yesterday. There was no payment in this deal. Certainly folks can recall. House has already passed multiple. Different packages that have languished the senate now. There is a gang of four though. The numbers are not quite clear. But it's a bipartisan gang. If you will to democrats to republicans it appears at the moment but They've all been sort of moving in and out of that. That space and that bill was that proposal they had ended up. Getting split into two parts. One was direct. Would excuse me not direct relief but relief in terms of extension on unemployment benefits an augmentation to unemployment benefits so an extra three hundred dollars per week provided by the feds on top of the extension of unemployment benefits which most unemployment benefits come from the state it also would have provided an extension on the eviction moratorium until he gets into office and there. He can He can by executive action implement that again and some rental assistance as well as another tranche of ppp money. That is the paycheck protection program. We'll get into all of this a little bit later in the program but there was no direct payments it seems clear that the leveraging of their power the flexing their muscles you put it of the progressives led by dr paul in the house and then also bernie sanders joined by republican josh in the senate who were taking to the senate floor demanding stimulus. Checks seems to have worked. And that's a pretty quick turnaround especially because mcconnell's feeling the heat when it comes to georgia. Well yes and last night. It was reported by politico reporter. She's the co congressional bureau. Chief of politico. Heather a cable and she reported that the progressive caucus it's taking a hardline line of voting against any proposal that didn't include stimulus checks that means direct payments pramilla. J. appall raise the idea during a c- call tonight again. This was reported last night. Members appeared to be receptive to the plan. The group is now whipping. The idea requesting members respond by noon tomorrow onto questions. If the omni cova deal doesn't include direct payments would they be willing to oppose the rule. Would they also be willing to oppose the bill and so we don't know what came back from that. But i think just the idea that they were starting to whip this now. This and as Caygill this comes after the the congressional progressive caucus instituted a bunch of rule changes. They changed their leadership up. J. paul became the chair. As opposed to the co chair and they only having one chair katie. Porta became number. Two and ilhan omar became their whip. And the other thing they said they had a implemented rules changes where it would become more member oriented and one of the things that we talked about With a months ago on this program was that the progressive caucus and it's about one hundred. I'm not sure. I don't know the numbers over one hundred hundred. Plus members strong however the only requirement to get into the progressive caucus is that you want the branding of being progressive. Which outs the chief you can deploy when you want to. And then the other requirement is that you pay four thousand dollars in dues which presumably is deployed four congressional races and no requirements. That you take certain votes no requirements that you agree to certain positions and that of course cuts into the efficacy of that group and so now they seem to be basically saying we are willing to begin to narrow the numbers that we have become more solid and in more of voting in more powerful now learning from republicans how to wield the power of your caucus they do that extremely effectively and the congressional progressive caucus by design has been neutered in my view To such a broad ten tenth at it doesn't wield enough actual power and paul who's a great great progressive is already diverting from that which is encouraging. Yeah and. I'm not sure that it was built by way. I just think that for a long time there was there was within the democratic party. Not a strong and by the by democratic party. I'm not talking about elected. I'm talking about terms of the people out there The the you know the people who identify as democrats or vote democratic in elections there was just simply not the critical mass of power on the left. And i'm not saying. I don't want to overstate things. But certainly the democratic party has gotten. I think our society at large half of it has gone a different direction. More a little bit less. Maybe but progressives have become more progressive and over the past five or six years maybe ten years or so and so i think we're starting to see a reflection of that there's more demands on it and certainly the and i think part of it is also frankly is the freshman class that came in in two thousand eighteen with people like katie porter with people like a and the squad and we see that their numbers have increased now and And you can see what they're doing here is kind of a mirror. Effective what republicans did with the house freedom caucus. Yes which was tea party members. Well the three of them caucus we never knew the numbers we secret. And so we've only twenty or thirty and they did a tremendous amount of power now. Of course the rest of the party was also fairly like minded and was certainly trending in that direction but That is the model. And so that's where we are as of now however here is the irony is here. Is joe mansion. Yesterday asked to respond to a bernie sanders criticism of the democrat self negotiating because and and bernie sanders. Isn't the only one saying this. The former chief of staff for harry reid was on twitter. Adam and gentle. I think is his name. And whatever your issues with harry reid. He fought republicans way. More than i don't know. Oh chuck schumer and leadership. Yes i think so. And and without a doubt and to the extent that He was not successful. He was undercut by by joe biden. Frankly in negotiations we don't need to cover that That ground at the moment but gentleman had this to say on twitter last night. Mcconnell is upbeat has reports that Mitch mcconnell is very upbeat about the The negotiations as of last night because he is getting what he wants. The least amount of aid injected into the economy while still passing a bill before the georgia runoffs. Democrats are beat because they love doing deals even when that deal is giving mcconnell everything he wants. Let's remember folks where this has gone back. in april. I'm late march early. April the republicans wanted another tranche of the ppp. This the paycheck protection program sends money ostensibly small businesses and says here is a loan if you spend this loan within eight weeks and you do it. Exclusively on your labor costs and rent then we will forgive that loan it becomes a grant now in the second trench republicans. I think wanted. Approximately two hundred and fifty billion democrats came back and said four hundred billion unclear why there needed to be more money. There didn't need to be reformed in terms of who had access to this money because if you had a shake shack getting access to it a small business slow the small businesses but the idea is that if you had a pre existing relationship with the bank which mo- small businesses some do but most now i mean because you're too small. Yeah if you have a good relationship with the bank. You're in the top of their listed to have their forms go through and and a lotta people and particularly women. Owned businesses minority owned businesses Did not have those relationships that type of reform was important because it was really no system to set this whole thing up. The extra money was unclear but nancy. Pelosi received a lot of criticism at the time. Not the least of which from andrew cuomo you need to get state and city funding in that it because you have the leverage now the republicans want more paycheck protection. You have the leverage. Nancy pelosi was highly dismissive of those people of anyone who is critical of her not using that leverage to get city and state she vowed in april. We will get it believe me. We're gonna get it here. We are twelve months later. Still don't get it. We're not gonna get it in this deal no matter what happens. Because it's tied into that corporate responsibility corporate liability protections pat mcconnell pet project and the also the chamber of commerce's peck pet project. And so we have these two separate bills now. One has the so-called controversial stuff. And now we have money leftover from paycheck protection money leftover from the treasury backing some of the corporate loans. That went out. That money's being shifted over so five hundred billion which covers more than half of this section of the bill indeed and so. We're not talking a lot of new money. So it's not that expensive to the country is what you're concerned about at this point which ensure dobbins pretend to be concerned about indeed and and so here we are where the there is a charge that democrats have been negotiating against themselves when mitch mcconnell if he wants to retain the senate. This is one of the things he needs. He needs purdue in leffler rivard on this anemic but existing relief. Bill here is Joe mansion on with a poppy harlow on cnn at being asked to respond to bernie sanders criticism of the democrat. Self negotiating senator bernie sanders and republican senator. Josh hawley are insisting on direct stimulus checks to folks this does not have that and this is what sanders told politico last night quote. What shrine of a negotiation is it when you go from three point four trillion. That's so passed the house to one hundred and eighty billion in new money. That is not a negotiation. That's a collapse. What's your response to them. Bernie loud and clear. And i understand what bernie's coming from i want to reemphasize. This is an emergency package. If you're losing if you're losing basically your unemployment assistance because it's not your fault that you've lost your job because businesses have closed in their closing more. You need a lifeline. That's what this is if you're losing your food assistance. You don't qualify for his food stamps. But basically you're in hunger line you never been in. Before if you're losing your rent assistance or eviction notices. They're going to throw you out at the end of the year. Bernie i'm asking for is a lifeline for those people. That are desperate right now. Joe biden comes in our president june twentieth. He'll put another package ford. That package will be inclusive. That will look at everything it takes to get our economy back up and running again. So let's look at this as an emergency lifeline through the first quarter. Choi for one. That's how we should be doing it pretty sure. That's how bernie sanders. Who's at two. Which is why. He is showing and discussing the urgency of having be more robust. And there's no guarantee that they're going to have as you would say a second by the the apple in twenty twenty one because you're giving republicans what they want here. Which is the ability for leffler and purdue to say that they achieve something and then that could jeopardize the senate so you have to be as strong and your negotiations and as demanding for relief for those people that you're talking about joe mansion as possible and and shortly hours after he gave that he made that Statement on cnn. There appears to be now a bigger push to have at least a six hundred dollar direct payment to people. Now i mean that's it it shows frankly i mean the efficacy of what sanders was doing in conjunction. I guess with holly in going to in front of The senate And and demanding twelve hundred dollars now embarrassed them. I mean it was a republican and a prominent democrat. Who embarrassed the rest of the senators. By saying there needs to be stimulus checks. And what do you know. Privilege paul in the house flexing her muscle indeed and so That's where we're at. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back we're gonna be talking to University of utah Professor marshall stein bomb on the the very surprising. Ufc labor antitrust showdown and college loans will be back in just a moment in the meantime folks. This is pretty exciting stuff. We have props today. I am modeling. The posit t shirt as you can see. There's a majority report logo right here round the sleeve and the positive shirt and then there's just like half of my face without with like Loves wearing images clothing with images of his face on it. Lets you talk about it all the time. You only one aware merged with your face on absolutely in fact and but only the best features in my face which is basically just my forehead. 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It is basically from a sort of labor standpoint buber four. I've mixed martial arts for a fight for a individual ballots competitors and that's right underlies this antitrust case And the practices that lead to such a low pay to the fighters themselves so clear so the people know it is. It's mixed martial arts. Which is basically anything from. I guess from karate and kickboxing and they they they fight like but your legs and say you have the the biggest league. I think that is out there in terms of what they call. Mma and this game on on the contractors is is am i remembering that correctly. I'm sorry i missed emma with what you just said this got into. I think more of the national consciousness. When i saw on the big the -cation of these. Yeah that's exactly exactly right. So sam when you say that. They're the biggest promoter. I think that's true by very long. Shot at the facts underlying this antitrust case essentially pertain to the decades which wrapped up the entire market so there used to be many promoters and the fighters had some of our the promoters. Because if they didn't like the deal for together by anyone promoter they could go to another one and the different promoters were essentially competing to put on the best fights for the the audience. That was there for them they. Ufc has wrapped up that market in part by constraining the fighters to exclusive contracts outright mergers with some of the competition so that you know the last one was in something like two thousand twelve twenty eleven or twenty twelve that means that it now has over. Ninety percent of the market share i think essentially exclusive contracts with all of the major the the the highest profile fighters so basically all of the events. That's somewhat similar uber. And broadly speaking to the tech platforms altogether because they have exerted power over the fighters exactly by monopolizing the market consumers so essentially the fans of the sport are fully within the ufc attention because they're the ones exclusive contracts can that the ufc can turnaround and essentially in any negotiation with anyone fighter. Say it's basically my way or the highway. You have nowhere else to go. So you have to agree to my terms. These sort of exclusion on both sides of the platform is mutually reinforcing. Okay and I want to get into this. This is what is known as a monopoly. And i want you to to. Because i think people need to understand this term because i have a feeling that people are going to hear it a lot more in this era because i think there is a been a concerted effort in a building. Push for really now. Five or six years it seems to me to push The the into for a change in the way that we interpret our antitrust laws in this country Really return to the way it was before. Ronald reagan changed those ideas and we should also say that you obviously have a child with a group cough in the background there. We should advocate nine. Nine human being far more sympathetic. If people think it's your kid. Well he's he's. He's been bought off with peanut butter. So hope that all right so tell us about this concept of monopoly. Because we don't just see it. You mentioned we see it in. The context of the uber has been able largely to push out a lot of its competitors in the in their space. You see it in the context of Of we have this in the context of of of chicken processing You know across the country. We've seen this in. The context of sometimes of walmart has done this. Tell us what this idea of. Monopoly is because i think people know what a monopoly is but a monopoly is sort of the inverse on some of. Yes oh monopoly. Formerly refers to one byron a market as opposed to one seller in the case of monopoly. And what you're all talking about is monopoly has applied to the context of labor where people sell their labor to make their living and if their employer has power over them then they have to sell it on terms that are advantageous to the employer and not to the worker. I think one reason why this term has you know. There's some misunderstanding of it. In the popular imagination is because It's interpreted over literally in some cases to mean literally only one employer in a labor market. And i think that market power on the part of employers is much more widespread phenomenon that i mean to some extent this gets into the weeds of market definition in antitrust so for example in the applied to the ufc context. You know they have a more than ninety percent. Share of a mixed martial arts. Professional events are broadcast on pay per view or something like that and they defending himself from this case would say something like oh well the fighters can go box or something else like do a different sport. So we're not a monopoly because we have less than ninety percent market. Share away less. If you incorporate these other things we can get into that. I would say to refer to the sea change in thinking that you're referring to an antitrust. Since the reagan era walmart is a great example so walmart you know is a totally dominant are retailer. Is that basically spread across the country and has representation in pretty much every market and sells tons and tons of stuff at its stores. Anti-trust people are under. The old regime would consider walmart to be a antitrust successor. A competition success because the have a dominant market share by the claim would be. Oh but they're so much more efficient the reason why they're so dominant is because they provide so many more goods at such a lower price than all the consumers shop there and that that consolidation represents pro-competitive consolidation that is consumer benefiting consolidation across the retail landscape. And so if you bring labor market issues into play and edmund obscene that you look at at walmart and you see terrible labor standards. You see exploited workers You know low wages unpredictable scheduling all sorts of Pathologies of the retail labor market. That were well aware of an interpreted through the lens. Market power and competition or antitrust. That looks not like a competitive success but like a competitive failure. And that's the way. I certainly would look at it taking the labor approach that i do and i think that there's a analogies to be had to the sort of reinterpretation of the walmart experience way you know. It's a big company that has a lot of influence on the way that the labor market works but even way beyond that you know to all sorts of other sectors such as professional sports in this case right and we should also reiterate. I just want to make this clear terry. Because we're gonna we're gonna pound this over the next year or two. I believe is Prior to Ronald reagan era prior to Robert bork yes. That bork coming out with this idea that the only thing we should be worried about in terms of antitrust is the cost to the consumer Prior to that the concern about anti-trust was not exclusively the cost consumer it was the ability of labor to get a fair deal into beyond somewhat fairgrounds with With the buyer of their labor but also will political power and also the ability of other firms to compete so that we have a robust economy that doesn't put all our eggs in one basket and really has more to do with being a citizen and a society rather than just you know the cheapest goods possible and you know we end up paying for these goods. In other ways that basically these become externalities they get off loaded onto society in other ways and so we ended up supporting a lot of walmart workers With with social services that in a healthier economy we wouldn't have to do because their wages would rise and they'd have more benefits so getting back to the ufc. What so you. How often do we see. Semih freelancers right. I mean these guys. Are they independent contractors or they. Yeah yeah that's one of the crucial aspects of this case that they're independent contractors unlike the i major leagues or professional leagues of other professional sports. Where you have unionized where the players are. The athletes are unionized. And there's collective bargaining under the ages of the national labor relations. Act for the most part. It's not one hundred percent of the cases professional sports but that is basically the framework then has been adopted into professional sports at the highest level. You have see more like boxing in the sense that the athletes are independent contractors. They're not part of a team in each Professional event is sort of separately. A promoted Put together promoted by a promoter that contracts in theory on a one off basis. I mean if you're going to go the independent contractor route you know ideas that that preserves more autonomy for the contractor and so if you would imagine that that there's not like a contract that lasts for like twenty ballots in usa but that that is in fact what so. They're independent contractors. They are now represented by a union. There's not a contract negotiations such as you hear about in the nba. For example where you know. The main subject of bargaining between the players and the league is what share of the revenue goes to the athletes. That's what they bargain over in the in the us. There's no such collective representation like that so the players are negotiating on a bow basis but one of the ways in which. They're they're exploited is that they're locked into long term contracts and those contracts can essentially be unilaterally extended. It seems like there's some evidence of that from from the evidence that's come forward in this case so it's sort of the worst of both worlds for the workers that they in theory. There are more autonomous but in reality not more autonomous. They just like power. And i think that also to get back to the uber example. In some way you were just saying about the larger societal implications of walmart. The company is that use independent contractors be they the usa or auber will say oh you know. Workers have lower status or vis-a-vis lower labor standards in respected these contracts on their depending but instead they gain autonomy. They gain flexibility. This was a very popular talking. Point for the gig platforms in the context of prop twenty two in california and it is. You know we'll certainly be hearing more of that. That is independent. Contractors give workers more flexibility even if they lack employment status on the minimum wage. It's on and what i would say. This case shows very clearly and has also clearly showed in the actual reality of uber and other day economy. Five forms as opposed to their propaganda. Is that actually under the independent contractor business model workers lack autonomy. They lack flexibility. They can still be forced to do to do things in fact probably more. So because they lacked this collective bargaining framework that's available to athletes in other major sports. You know they they do not in any sense have have the flexibility that the companies claim on they have low pay and i would say a broader sort of truth of how labor markets work is that worker powers mutually reinforcing. So if you were like giving workers more autonomy increases their bargaining power which means they can are are in a position to claim higher. Pay these eight. Years of the big contradiction is labor standards and autonomy or flexibility substitutes or complements. My argument would be as labor economist. There compliments more autonomy for workers that also goes for small businesses dealing with platforms are dominant fires like walmart the more autonomy. They have the ability to take their business elsewhere in work with other other buyers or other employers the better better position therein to bargain with with a given employer. That's conduct is in question. I let me just just to clarify. There's there's two dynamics right. There's one on the buyer side that being the employer at this point you have see and there's one on the on the seller side and What they're doing is they're saying that ostensibly we're part of our compensation to these sellers of their labor is that we're giving them more flexibility. That's why we're not giving them benefits. That's why giving them paying into their social security because they flexibility and they really want that flexibility. However that's the dynamic ostensibly would the but because of their business practices they have basically offered them a pyrrhic compensation if you will. You have the flexibility to go anywhere you want. It's just so happens though that our business practices the nap and have swallowed every other opportunities saying yeah you can go play in the xfl if you wanted to. We have competition and the nfl provides health care for them. I mean that's what's unbelievable about this. Ufc stories that. It's one of the most violent sports possible and they did not provide health care when they were bleeding from the mouth or whatever the point is they don't have unionized right. Their business practices have been so monopolistic. We would say right. I mean so. It's not really and like you say it's not a function of exactly. How much market share you have. Although that's a piece of evidence there is a broader sense of like how much A choice does the seller of labor at this point have in a market that has been so thoroughly essentially a cornered by one entity. And does do you think just a quick add on. Do you think that this push these. Ufc fighters into even more dangerous activity Because there was such a little competition and they were kind of hanging by a thread in terms of their employment. Because you have so you could basically get rid of them whenever they wanted and there would be new people lined up because they had no rights. Yeah i mean. I think all of those things play into the exercise of power. Being a friend of mine made the pretty amazing point that you're essentially just alluding to about this case that you know by contrast the nfl or professional boxing looks like a well-structured pro worker type of arrangement compared to the way that these people operate. And i think one of the the the fact that they have so much power in this fury. Exactly i've pertains to their ability to essentially make the work as exploitative as possible ms cases violent as possible so the business model very much is you know we will put on a spectacle of extreme violence worker health. Be damned because we're not on the hook for it. All of the costs that go along with a sport that is as violent as it is are borne by the worker so this is similar to where it's an uber's interest to have every drive around as quickly as possible in an unsafe way as possible because not on the hook for the heart depreciation to the cars for auto accidents for damaged at parties or whatever it's like they get all of the benefits of controlling this labor force without any of the cost of liability for anything. That could possibly go wrong. Of course they want it to be as unsafe as possible to say. Drivers assaulted by d does uber any liability when it comes to their drivers. I'm assuming the answer's no. I mean i again. I'm not exactly the expert in a position to comment on on that. But i generally that question of viability true workers in the performance of their jobs. Attached is one of the things that attached to employment status as my understanding so the fact that they're independent contractors means that things that they do on the job are their own problem and not the problem of the boss because the boss is not legally the same thing as them and so and and that that monopoly money Power also incentivizes the drivers for the fighters to be more reckless to be because they need to succeed. Within this closed environment. there have created. Yeah i used to be a bike. Messenger myself Thankfully not a lengthy at part of my career. I'm it's extremely unsafe. And we were independent contractors by basically the dispatchers had the incentive to have us bike as quickly as possible and is unsafe way possible. So you know bike. Messengers aren't the most popular a you know people on city streets with pedestrians. Certainly but the reason why is the same reason. Why uber drivers have to drive such an unsafe manner. Which is you know. They're the kind of institutional set-up is such that if you don't do that then you don't get aid enough to to make it make it actually make a living for you right so okay and so To get back to the specifics of the case a court just found and this is important. And i imagine this is going to have the would you tell us. But implications Both in the context those potentially labor law in context of antitrust and to a certain extent in tort law because these All of these independent contractors were are allowed to now represent themselves as a class which of course makes it a viable case because if if each person had to do it individually the amount of of of work and investment that legal representation would be involved here. They know individual lawyer would take this case because they're going up against a multibillion dollar business that will be able to sort of just wear them out but if i'm representing all of these workers then my investment money and time as a as an attorney that representation works that's why class actions are so powerful and why we see so much work on trying to limit who can actually become a class by a lot of these judges so what what are the implications. So far of this case that they've been able to bring it this far on labor law and on antitrust. I mean what does that. Where does this lead. I do hope leads to a flourishing of multiple cases. I mean this case was filed. I think in two thousand fourteen and this rolling as to class certification allowing it to move forward as a class action came in twenty twenty So that's six years we haven't even gotten to a trial yet. Let alone appeals and all the other things that are associated with a lengthy and high stakes Antitrust proceeding like this. I do hope so. The idea that independent contractors as workers can establish a the durkan meet the standard for class certification is indeed a major development. That should aid similar cases from going forward on the other hand. As you as you say there have been efforts to limit class actions. Including the i think twenty nineteen maybe twenty eight hundred supreme court case epic systems which basically allowed A class action waivers in employment contracts and understanding the national labor relations act on so lots of a companies basically put sort of pro forma class action waivers as part of their standard employment material. Also that you know per the finding in that case binds the their workers to foreswear a classic at any kind of legal proceeding but a particular class action which is the one the kind that threatens them for most workers. You're saying so that really raises up the point of public enforcement so public agencies that have the power to enforce competition. Laws are not bound by meant by a mandatory rotation or class action. Waivers on the other thing is that the stakes are very high in this case because in the past the fighters have been paid. You know pennies in comparison to what the company is earning so the whole premise of the damages is that the share of revenues. That's going to the fighters is way way lower than it would be if there were a free if there were free competition for their services that that's very true in this context and means that it's viable to bring an ambitious antitrust claim like this That's harder for for workers in more pedestrian occupations where you know the the gap between the The revenues that the boss is making off of them and what they get paid is not the gaping chasm that it is in this context. I mean in general. It is high that sort of the premise of labor of employer power in labor markets. And i think you've probably the viewers of the show probably seen version of the economic policy institute chart of the widening gap between output per worker and pay absolve that it's true but it's hard to for most workers it's hard to sustain this specific antitrust proceeding on that basis given are harder for all of the bork reasons we've been talking about it jurisprudence address jurisprudence has become way harder for plaintiffs on. So that's why it's six years between You know until the finding of certification and even that is a major victory That's why there needs to be both public enforcement as well as in my view legislative amendments. And there's some chance of that. There's a monopolization ability has been introduced in the new york state legislature. That i think is promising. And i think there may be a similar efforts in other states especially in light of prop twenty two run california. A lot of labor organizations workers are afraid of this diminution of their status of marching across the states including on the federal level They're very. They're absolutely right to be very afraid of that. One of the ways to defend against that is to have very strong antitrust enforcement against the what's called vertical restraints in the anti-drug context the namely the ways in which dominant employer of independent contractors exercises. Its power if that becomes if that's made illegal through the antitrust laws or through public enforcement you know then. The attraction of the independent contractor business model is way reduced because it exposes you exactly that liability and so. I think there's a you started by saying we're going to be hearing more and more about monopoly. I hope that specifically true in the context of the sort of defense against the gig gig affiliation or platforms ation of the labor market across all sorts of stations. So this is just gonna be. This is what's interesting about this story is that It is it has got the antitrust element to it. it's also got the labor element to it. And that's not always the case We can see antitrust may be in terms of. Let's say we're seeing it. Obviously in terms of facebook in terms of google and terms of amazon of different variants in terms of what they're doing to the market that inhibits competition to other for other people. There's also issues of course in terms of you know what happens when someone's d platform and then there's only one social platform but we also see the context of other businesses outside of dc airlines emmy. We see we're we're we're antitrust is going to be across the board. Where else would you guess is. Is the gig economy stuff. Is this when we look at this case in people start to follow it more. The gig economy is really going to be implicated by this because of that dynamic of independent contractors and we should say and just be clear. You know There are two competing forces here because twenty two which just passed in california essentially they are looking to roll out this which is a full on assault on our labor laws essentially across the entire country. Where you as a worker will lose protections and will lose benefits because of this law because it really is as sort of a back door to undercutting our labor laws right so this case has the opportunity to sort of bring up a new theory on how you inhibit this push by these gig economy these. Yeah that's what. I would say most important to me as a public message coming out of this. I mean these are big. You know extremely exploited workers in a crappy situation who deserve relief. I think the relevance of that larger of that situation to the larger labor market that the rest of us make our living in is exactly what you're saying and in pushing this reduction in labor standards across the board that will hit all manner of accusations you know the companies will say as i was earlier alluding to but the workers gain flexibility. So it's actually you know as sort of a trade off for them in the workers like that trade off. I think this antitrust as a defense against that highlights exactly the extent to which that isn't true. They do not gain flexibility lose flexibility because as an independent contractor. You can be forced to do what it is. The platform wants to work. Even though i it's not in your interest to for the customers that's in the interest of the platform fetal for not in your own interest. And i think it's important to open up this other front. So the the sort of fight about the gig. Economy to date has almost solely been about employment status employment classification. I think a lot of gig economy workers you know. Look at that kind of policy fight and think well being an employee is not all that great shakes. I mean look at the way the walmart worker walmart employees They're totally screwed. So why should i put my livelihood on the line to fight for something that it doesn't seem like is all that valuable to me. Well i think the antitrust case sort of opens up another front front. That is in fact in some ways. More pro worker one where it's fighting exactly the lack of autonomy the subjugation of individual workers under the independent contractor business model and by my ideal say would be if the platforms face severe antitrust liability as a result of using this independent contractor business model than Straighten they want to be made into They want to. The workers should be made into employees. Because that's how they get out of that ability that's far. They've been able to skate on that side of things so they're happy to just say independent contractor independent contractor independent contractor notch. Were because they don't face any harm doing that. If they if independent contractor entails vertical restraints liability on the part of the platforms then that decision on their part becomes a lot more complicated and hopefully scoring over workers becomes less attractive to that. It's fascinating the many different angles that we can take In that That are necessary. I think to constrain These these companies that increasingly have so many resources in which they can change statutes statutes and whatnot. I mean they have basically in infinity budget. When i looked at the what happened to uber and lift share price in response to the passage of property to you. Think you know that. Is you know. Tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of workers having their livelihood be reduced to benefit the portfolio valuation of the saudi royal family. Like that just right there on. Its face is the hollowing out. A destruction of the american middle class to benefit the world's richest and most powerful despotic people. And i think we need to bring to bear new tactics and strategies to do something about that because you know the american people are being sold out frankly by our existing political leadership. There you go. I mean you just you taking the money from employees or the contractors as it were and putting it right into the share price and it goes to the perfect upward distribution of money marshall steinbach. Next time we're gonna talk more about College loan forgiveness. Maybe we can wait. None nothing's gonna happen on that at least until january twentieth and then hopefully maybe something will But we will. We have time to talk about it but thank you so much retirement that i really appreciate your no problem. Great talking to you much all right. Quick break. be right back Well yesterday was a big day emma. Because that's the day that. Mitch mcconnell Conceded that joe biden had won the presidency and six weeks after he actually did yeah. I'm better late than never and of course the right is up in arms and i don't wanna give even with even noting that it took him six weeks it almost gives him too much credit. The that was not my intention. Well yes i know but they are. They are concerned mitch. Mcconnell warned members of his caucus. That this is inhibiting georgia and again this. This is all part of a whole right. I mean if georgia of course is paramount. Mitch mcconnell mitch mcconnell. We'll be able to do nothing he will be able to obstruct to in terms of legislation but not necessarily when it comes to spending money. He will have to fight every piece of legislation. If the democrats have fifty senators have tie-break vote coming from comma harris and Especially because the twenty twenty two map could be bad for republicans if democrats. The democrats are able to provide some material benefit to people in show that they can they can legislate and of course. It also means the beginning of attempting to push back on mitch mcconnell's packing of these courts. If mcconnell has a majority of the senate then he will do he will run the exact same plan. He did against obama when it comes to judicial a tease and the democrats won't be able to do anything about it. So georgia is hugely important and the question is and this. Is you know. I will concede this is a difficult This is a difficult calculation to make. How much do you push in terms of what needs to be in this relief bill and potentially potentially keep it from happening. When you know that mitch mcconnell desperately wants something to pass anything to pass really and which means you up what you ask for. And the question is is i guess. How far up do you make that ask. And luckily it seems like stimulus checks will be included but jeff sign of the washington. Post is also reporting. That means that the time line for extended unemployment will be shortened. That's the trade off so there's no extra money here in that bill. What we're looking at is simply a redistribution from people who are out of work and then of course that puts the pressure on if if the democrats don't take the senate by winning these two seats in georgia when we come back for that second bite at the apple to get extended unemployment benefits. Because look we're going to be in this with covid regardless of vaccinations into the spring at a minimum minimum is at a minimum at a minimum That means that. Joe biden and the democrats have to go back to mitch mcconnell and say please please please. And they don't have the leverage at that point so again there's few opportunities for democrats to have leverage. And if you don't use it now you're gonna lose it and they're lose it indeed so But we will see. I suspect That we're going to have a deal by certainly by the end of the week. maybe before. then they're also let's face it. The centers wanna go on vacation. Yeah we all do. But the centers really liked like. We'll stay here through christmas every after they're like cheese three hundred bucks i mean. Let's hope that that is effective. All right folks will be back Tomorrow if you are Anywhere on the northeast. Battened down the hatches. Got a big storm had In our direction but We'll be here one way or the other right here in. W if you miss any part of the show you can check it out on the peacock app on the choice channel. Five pm ten pm. Check it out tomorrow. 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The Mike Church Show-The Million MAGA March Is A Great Kickoff For Election 2020, The Crime Of The Century, Exposed!

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09:09 min | 2 months ago

The Mike Church Show-The Million MAGA March Is A Great Kickoff For Election 2020, The Crime Of The Century, Exposed!

"You saw the democrat party. Operatives working inside filthy duffy. His election office provided merlin. Oh with crates of raw ballots just hours before the polls closed on election night which he transported to two private households in south philadelphia by ten pm that night marino's operation was already generating more than three thousand ballots for our which quickly scale the more than six thousand ballots per hour Before midnight by now marlena might just be willing to flip on joe biden in primetime congressional testimony. A president trump is willing to issue the longtime mobster a full expunged decades. Long criminal record and of course marlena wants to be pardoned for the election fraud itself and any crimes to which he may incriminate himself during his testimony by the by. Is it any coincidence. That the guy that prosecuted the family. And the mafiosos in new york city new york city mayor his honor. America's mayor rudy giuliani. Just happens to be working for the trump campaign and further and happens to be the president's lawyer Rudy knows a little bit. About rico case violations rudy knows a little bit about how to prosecute mobster. Now folks this is just one angle of the story. I am by no means implying you. You're listening for the first time that the mob connection here is how you explain the the rigged election because there is so much evidence now. We have evidence. City powell yesterday even said that the evidence was coming in a trickle. But now it's coming to a fire. Hose come into a fire hose now as the rats leave the sinking sleepy joe biden ship by the by biden's last address as president-elect was wont last wednesday. He's like he's like the groundhog nari hasn't come out of his basement yet to see shadow. Why all of a sudden to sleepy. Joe stop acting as though he was president and start going and going out daily bellowing orders out and threatening all the good people of the united states would be on permanent lockdown once he and carell to harris turk office. Where did he go out of. Where is biden and why is he contesting any of these claims of fraud. He ought to be out there. Screaming and hollering and jumping up and down. And you only like wait a minute wait a minute. I won fair and square. There's no fraud here. There's no illegal illegal here by the by what was the point the The guy made to us yesterday. when we're making our way out of mash it was a really good point. I went you know what john i didn't mean to. The biden gaffe about the ant while the fraud. The biggest fraud groups but mitt to say anti-fraud group right right so if he has this massive anti-fraud group. Why aren't they out there saying this clip here this clip here. We put together. I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of american politics. So my friend. John yesterday on the way out of church goes he goes well. Let's just let's just pretend for a minute that he that he got it backwards that he met say fraud prevention. Okay where is it. You put the greatest fraud prevention campaign together in the history of american elections. Well then you ought to be able to come out today. Go there was no fraud. You know why because we had the greatest fraud prevention program in history in place and this is how we stopped the fraud. So whether you believe biden sleepy joe uh as being a straight up guy and saying that look. We committed of the committed. The greatest election fraud in history. Sure next to pressure or or or weather you grant him now now. He met because that's what the democrats are. No no no no he meant to say really mean to say he met say voter fraud okay. We'll have you had the greatest voter fraud prevention outfit in history. Where is it. Why didn't it work. You see the tighter the news gene. The screws are starting to tighten and by the by the official arms. The demon crat party is not sane peep about this. They're letting their stooges in the media and the media industrial complex to all the dirty work for them. They're not saying anything. The biden campaign certainly insane. Anything back to skinny joe. Merlin no skinny. joey. I said joe skinny joey. A skinny joey. He wouldn't mind a little fame or a lot of fame. He jokes he comes forward. He'll probably get book down. A movie franchise political observers. Believe that marlena could sell the rights of story to a major hollywood production studio for more than twenty million dollars in a book deal could be yields much as ten million. That's only if he actually did this. We had to give trump the pardon him. But what a twist that would be the mob boss that put together the filthy mafia and pittsburgh ballots. Now who was the mob boss. It didn't detroit because they did the same thing. Detroit and there were no i. Witnesses to the dropping off in un in from out of state license plate cars. Now i witnesses who has sworn affidavits that they saw the cars or the trucks and vans pull up at wayne county convention center aware of it was recounting the votes in detroit and boxes upon boxes upon boxes were taken out of the vans and wheeled inside the convention center in the in the early morning hours of november the fourth so the damning Let's see here. You'd have to understand thing about skinny. Joey is that he is very charismatic. He knows how to tell an enthralling story. He being incredible movie narrator they Said the damning congressional testimony being tentatively dubbed the biggest heist in political history could make it politically impossible for the republican troll legislature in pennsylvania to certify the state's twenty electoral votes. I don't think they're going to certify them anyway. Not under not undercurrent pretentious by the by. The president sat there on his twitter. Feed telling people that motion lawsuits. That you guys are talking about. If not been filed by us. There are concerned average citizens that are filed the fraud lawsuit not the ones that we have filed or will file state and allege grave constitutional error. That must be corrected member member. I keep telling you people you go back. Read the acting. All crusade reblog on the website at crusade channel dot com. Just click onto crusader blog. Go back and read my post from trump. The trump campaign is not trying to hit ground rule doubles. They're aiming for the fences. They're trying to hit grand slam. Home runs grand slam home run in philadelphia in pennsylvania and the pennsylvania. State law says no ballots after nine. No no no vote by mail. Ballots can be counted after nine pm election night. That was rewritten by the secretary. State and the pennsylvania supreme court the us constitution article one section for article two section one in the twelfth amendment saying that the state makes the road. The legislature makes the rule and of discussion. No one ever loses an article. One section for no legislature ever loses that case. They're not going to lose this time. Either so those votes gets thrown out. It's a it's over. Six hundred thousand vote lead. The trump had will hold.

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2054 - 2020 Sweeps Have Been Where Will It End w/ Virgil Texas

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

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2054 - 2020 Sweeps Have Been Where Will It End w/ Virgil Texas

"You are listening to a free version of majority report with Sam cedar to support this show and get another fifteen minutes daily program. Go to rejoice dot S M. Please. Jaronnie any rumour? Where every day. Ride. That means Monday is casual Monday Tuesday, casual Tuesday, Wednesday casual hump day Thursday, casual Thurs. That's what we call it and Friday, casual shabby Goma. Jarrai rob hall with Sam Sita? It is Friday March twenty second two thousand nineteen my name is Sam cedar. That's the five time award winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps from the industrially ravage Gwanda canal in the heartland of America. Downtown Brooklyn USA on the program today. Looking back on the week. That was or maybe the week that will be. Could I guess we could do it monthly or in any other timeframe Virgil, Texas? From the Chapo trap house will be here. Also in the program, a sensibly to give us film recommendations for the weekend. A special hunting guest. Stick around for that. This is a. There's a lot of technology involved in this. We'll have to see if it works. It's an extraordinary. Get literally extraordinary also on the program today. Trump reverses decades of US policy on the goal on heights with a tweet. And countries that hosted. Excuse me counties that hosted twenty sixteen Trump rallies saw a slight two hundred and twenty six percent. Increase in hate crimes. And Meanwhile, President sue Saturday Night Live bemoans campus, free speech crisis. EU delays Brexit until mid April. Mississippi governor signs law outlying abortion, essentially after six weeks. Top twenty twenty contenders. Pass on the APEC conference. And US marine chief says border deployments. Pose a quote unacceptable risk. Two Marine Corps readiness. And in Florida, Florida Republicans advance Bill to redesign franchise. Recently and franchised ex-felons with a modern day poll tax. While Joe Biden, Stacey Abrams could they have any different ideas of how Democrats win. All this and more on today's majority report. Yes, lays Jomon, welcome to the program. Matt is on a special assignment. We're is mad so in the desert. Oh, all right. Great spiritual journeys on a vision quest. Oh, I'm glad you hear that. He's going to meet the lizard king. Okay. They're all going. It's is he really on. He's not like burning man. He's burning. Turned him down just a little bit where where is Matt Phoenix. I believe. Okay. All right only want to document the hallways of all ways. I don't know. I was just curious as in the tracker off. Yeah. That's the problem. I don't have thing. So Brendan is on the board. And so, you know, just strap year see pelton folks could be a bumpy ride. And Virgil be with us shortly. Let's start with this. What a way to wake up in the morning. Donald trump. Incidentally, he signed an executive order that talking points USA. It's not clear to me. Exactly. What this US? I mean, excuse me, what this executive order will do although it will be problematic. It is just another tool in the arsenal to intimidate universities. If it's not a list of potentially treasonous professors or. List devised by folks, like Charlie Kirk and other professors there of of perhaps campus activists who should be targeted. It is it will be a nefarious sort of I guess arrow in the quiver of the right wings desire to to be able to continue on with their racism without anybody criticizing them for being racist. But meanwhile, here's Pete hegseth. Pete hegseth was excuse me. According to what's that guy's name. Allen rupe? Hearts Aaron repack, Aaron Rupar, according to Aaron Rupar who I guess grew up with him in or not grew up with him, but grew up in the same hometown as peak in the suburbs. Knowing that Pete went to prince Princeton. Here is here is Aaron Rupar. I mean, excuse me, Pete, hegseth, bemoaning the fact that. Folks would actually be conscious of their identity, particularly if it was not white in America here. He is early. Yeah. Incredibly well said by the general, what makes Erika special is that we're an idea we're a bunch of people with different backgrounds, different skin colors, different orientational. And we all say we're all in for the declaration the constitution. This set of principles that we can be free people that governor Zell I hate to be one of those pedantic guys who talks about history. But at the time that the declaration and the constitution were signed. We weren't exactly we we weren't all in on this. It was an idea. But the idea that all of us didn't matter what color you were all there at the signing of the declaration in the constitution. He may want to just revisit a history book, but continue that. That's it. That's the social contract of America. If you start to say, no, I'm I'm black. I'm I'm white on this on that. I'm this grievance on that grievance on this identity that identity I it all starts to break down because you're not looking at the center of the set of ideas that you share their first as he said, we've got the same shows where America first comes from. But now you have in universities and high schools, you're telling kids to focus on their background, even all right? So there is concerned that apparently in these schools these colleges that people are being told to focus on their background because the takes them away from the central idea of America, which we were all apparently in on at the founding of the country. Now, what's funny about pizza heck's? It is this whole idea of identity. Do we have any anything to just like let us go back? Take a little trip down memory lone peak Hegg's, who's come. Completely devoid of any identity, which of course, it's somewhat easier to do when you're white and the dominant force in society is not reminding you that you're not white the government policy or depending on the any given day. Maybe. Just the way that you move through society. But here's Pete hegseth, never to think about his origins here. Now with my genealogy results is the host of PVS genealogy roadshow. Joshua taylor. I'm both excited. Jovi mortified, you know, there's there's all sorts of things out there to start your family. We actually work with the nineteen forty census, which is a great place for anybody out there to start researching their family, and we found your grandparents living in Minnesota. I can tell you that document that document is online in multiple places. So you can use commercial sites like ancestry and family search. So from that document at told us that your family has some ties indeed you are one hundred percent Norwegian indeed. And so. How is that possible by playing identity politics? I guess so he's a big hit dope. Like other Norwegians? I just the I mean the. You know, I it gets bandied about the idea like you talk about white privilege, the idea of just saying that we should all be able to walk through society. Like me this white Norwegian from Minneapolis. We should all be able to walk through American society in that way. Wouldn't that be nice? If that were the case, but you really really have to achieve because I don't pretend to have any sense of of of the experience of other people as they walked through American society. But I'm aware of my limitations in that regard. Pete hegseth is not only not aware of his limitations in that regard. He's bathing in it. He's bragging about his lack of awareness of those limitations. But a nice way to start your morning on FOX and friends. 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But you have like five point five whenever that makes it a hundred point or thought they didn't into stores. Cheeses. I'm sorry. I'm not even sure I I'm not even. I'm not even aware of what pitchforks out the gate, cultural literacy. Yeah, no, I didn't know cultural reference. This whole episode to begin back. Right. It's not it's not a sprint. It's a marathon. Lose Warren done pretty much. There you go. Well, that is a good question that actually brings us maybe to the the one of the first things I want to talk to you about was to to look at the the twenty twenty where now basically, we're now basically all in we're at the same point in in the election cycle where we were in two thousand sixteen with Joe Biden who's last I think big contender that people in -ticipant to jump into the race where at the same stage where we were in two thousand sixteen when Joe Biden was floating the idea that he was going to jump into the race and show Elizabeth Warren in pick Elizabeth Warren as the VP Brennan, you put that up. The Joe Biden's done this before where he basically says announces to everyone. Hey, I'm totally aware of my weakness as a presidential candidate. I know weak on certain politics, and I'm. Were weak in terms of on gender issues and in two thousand sixteen he knew that his weakness was I think specifically is relationship with the banks, right and on gender issues. And so he floated the idea of Elizabeth Warren as VP contemplating that he might jump into the race at one point they had meetings. I don't know if you remember all that you don't remember that. I don't remember the meetings. I remember the floating. There was actually I've always thought of them as sort of fairly developed, political enemies. Right. That was the idea never the meetings. They were very productive from my point of view. Yeah. So we see Joe Biden do this with Stacey Abrams. Gimme your sense of of what's going on here with that that he's playing the hamlet act again, or well, you know, what he's what is game plan. What is game plan? Obviously, we don't know. But for what I've read their considering these. You know out of left field ideas, which is very strange for a guy who's pulling at the top right now. Maybe they're presumption is that well, we just by looking at the numbers were were best position to be the nominee to win this thing. But we think as as you know, I think that's these numbers are theories they're gonna Bryce like they did for Joe Lieberman. Who at this point was pulling it what fifty percents, right, and that's probably just all name recognition at that point. Right. I think there's got to be a huge name recognition and people have not seen him campaign in really I mean as a presidential candidate and sixteen years. I actually have true. No, no. Here's ten years on your Seder tenures. I actually have no idea where this idea that Joe Biden is a great campaigner comes from. I maybe that's the case. But I don't remember that being the case when he ran for president. Two thousand eight his numbers would not indicate that he was a great. There is a middle. I mean, we're just we're just talking about him as a campaigner politics is politics trash, but I think the caller from Scranton the other day, you know, to the show, and it was fun to literally have a caller from Scranton that could back your point. I think it's somewhere between think some of it will evaporate because his record is horrible by any metric. But I think no I mean, he does have a certain type of charm, which I think is like I would imagine this audience tons of Bernie people good amount of Warren people, probably even some beta people that's gen-x version of sort of empty rhetoric, but I think Biden's executive type person that people like us will totally not get. But there is actually a market for of course, there's some market, but not Lieberman like total implosion this. Is this is this bargain defined by geography is defined by racial identity by working class identity. No, it's the fine by age. But the story about Biden is he's the white working class whispered. He was supposed to get these white working class voters who are skeptical of Obama, right? That's well, I think I mean on some level. I think that was I think there was maybe some accuracy to that that I think that the the idea that he provided some balance to that concern probably was was probably the case don't know, if that's the case because for one, you know, I don't think the vice presidential pick ever ever ever matters. I don't think it matters. But I do think that I don't think it matters in terms of getting votes. But it does it matters. I think in terms of creating narratives like I think that Sarah Palin, for instance, with with John McCain, I think that it in many respects made it impossible. For him to get the drubbing that he was gonna get you hadn't picked Palin. But it also made it impossible for him to win the election like did both. Yeah. That's that's a good way of looking at it. And I don't I don't know what the academic literature says I would probably gravitate just after watching the past few years to the former interpretation that that was the necessary balance that kept McCain afloat a guy who's not really liked by his base, not even that much so liked by these salvage. But I want to go back to your original question here. One of the things that I've seen reported from you know, Biden's campaign staff is there mooting the idea of picking a running mate before the primary start which is very str- baffling to me as a guy who pose as the front runner because that is of course, what Ted Cruz did right before his campaign, and it is a desperate act. I mean, that's Mary. That's why I don't I don't I don't. I think it's anything other than an advertisement to his weaknesses. And I also think that it's like, you know, plant pretending to that. He may do the pick and pretending that he's looking at Stacey Abrams. I think is really just his way of signaling. Like, I'm not he is trying to deal with his liabilities before he enters to the race, which smart thing to do right? Which aren't as in two thousand sixteen. That's exactly it me. Most with that's bankruptcy. That's exactly that's can you have lunch. Right. That's exactly I was saying his weaknesses were on gender, and I'm banking. And so I meet with a woman who is very strong on banking in. This instance, I think he perceives himself as having issues on gender and on race and on the idea of mobilization because Stacey Abrams is all about mobilization. Whereas joe. You know, Joe Biden supposedly about I can convince these these these Trump voters to come back to the Democratic Party or so a segregation desegregation splits difference there as well. It's I honestly, I'm I can talk probably the least about buying because I just reflexively ignore every news article about it. I'm of the mindset that you fucked this this isn't fun or interesting just run already. And as Matt put it to me the other day. Let's see if the majority Democrats actually do want to embrace oblivion right now. Right. I don't think that's going to happen. I do think that he probably does also have a floor. I don't think I think it's probably like a third of what he he's polling at maybe it's a little bit lower even than that. He's I mean, he's he's in the race. He's there. He can't really be forced out. But I think if he experiences a median virement that is so totally hostile to him, which I think he will. I think he'll get the SCR. Not that Hillary Clinton not receive in two thousand sixteen from the friendly liberal sources, I feel like that's just going to suck up all the oxygen. He would need. So. In that. I don't know if I would call it, you know, in that lane. But it you know, sort of around that lane. I think Beto O'Rourke announced this week that he raised six point one million dollars in twenty four hours in a we weirdly weirdly in unique contributions verses unique contributors, which is sort of an odd. Little weird thing to present in terms of like statistic. Because really it's like you want who in the first twenty four hours is repeatedly donating. That's weird. A yeah. Are are you implying that he asked people to structure their donations. I I'm not I'm I'm not. That's I don't know. What is it's not that I'm implying anything. It's that there's an implication. I think to saying unique contributions as opposed to donors. I can assure because when most people come out, and now it's I don't think there's anything nefarious. I don't think they have some type of bought, but it's just a weird thing to do. Because when most people come out, and maybe he's just doing it. So that I don't know people like me say why did you say contributions, and then they come out and go. Okay, contributors, same number. It's quite possible. That was part of it. But it's weird thing to do nevertheless still a lot of money. Yeah. A lot of people try to parse spend a lot of time parsing that Bego Email just because well, you know, he stencil top Bernie by two hundred thousand dollars by that self reported. We could find out at the first, you know, the first quarterly reports when they come in that, oh, he just lied to. Or that includes like a million dollar transfer from his Senate campaign. There's some people speculate. The reason why Biden is waiting is to get past the first quarter reporting deadline, so that he can he can maybe fudged the numbers a little bit until you actually has to report because the, you know, they're playing type of like narrative about, but but let me ask you this just more broadly, and then I get back to bed. Oh, does this matter as much as it used to because it used to be we're going to nounce our fundraising because this is a way of signaling to other fund or other money people like give us money. It's not a bad investment. I'm not going to be dropping out of the race in three weeks in the money that you're giving me not to pay for bills that I expended six months ago. I mean, it matters in the sense that you need enough to keep the lights on. It. Also depends on what your overall strategy is going to be keep this in mind. We don't know when the New Hampshire primary is going to be. I'm not sure they've even fixed the date of the Iowa. Arcus and a lot of states, including New York state. They have not they require an act of legislature to fix the date of their primary. We don't know what the schedule is. And we could be in a case where I believe California moved up their date. They did that while people are caucusing in Iowa early. People are mailing ballots simultaneously in California early voting period has already begun. And if you wanna compete, you can come you can with a few million dollars, you can compete in a place like you can't compete a place like California right now is that really the case I didn't realize that they had not set the date yet for Democrats. I feel like they've set the date for California which is on Super Tuesday. Yeah. I believe they move that up. Right. It's on super to California's now part of Super Tuesday with Texas, South Carolina, Nokes, not South Carolina, Texas, Texas, and California, the big ones. And then I think there's like three or four other five other states. Maybe. So the first four are fix. I would have sure South Carolina, Nevada. They're fixing in in that order though. I think the vodka, South Carolina swamp. But the exact days, I believe are not fixed and Hampshire, of course, has to be the first primary so they have to wait for everyone else to settle their calendar. They do it. Okay. Interesting. All right. Well, but nevertheless, that's new order in which goes, but we know generally where it's going to be it's going to be in the first couple months of guess. I guess conceivably. I will be you know, at the end of of this year, but we know is going to be first couple of months of twenty nineteen and the the time that people have to spend in there. But I guess my point is there used to be this other primer, right? The donor prime and that to me seems less relevant because the the the way that that small donors are impacting these race keep buying what we're talking. We're we're when we talk about the invisible primary right now in we are pretty much just talking about this as kind of crypto poll measure of what small donors believe in the party of of what the base believes in the party when we really only started talking about this in two thousand four right? That's when it was the big obsession how much money Howard Dean was raising. Remember the frigging baseball bat. Right. He carried that thing around. And that was like a thermometer thermometer online. That was the very first thermometer too. And I also think. Yeah. I think that that was the beginning of it. And I think really clearly now like. In this cycle. The it, obviously, we're talking about the enthusiasm smaller donor. So it's not just the raw number like if Biden comes out and kills it. And it is clearly without, you know, individual donations versus unique donations. It's just know this guy got like a bunch of you know, all the guards to max out. That's not necessarily a great new cycle for him. Well, he's going to he's gonna come out. And he's gonna say his numbers, and he made not give full council stuff is not as important. I don't care. Sure. Yeah. For sure that was never a question. Oh. You can find online. I wha caucus are Monday, February third. New Hampshire's Tuesday. February eleventh, Nevada's February twenty seconds, South Carolina is the twenty ninth. And then Super Tuesday comes with California, Texas, Massachusetts, Alabama, North Carolina, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Vermont Virginia. So that's March beginning March, and that is the literally March third, and so California is a huge. These are these are you need a lot of money to stay in the race and to compete after March third presumably right a bunch of people drop out after Super Tuesday or they just move into like, I'm on book tour mode. Basically a lot of people are the field. Lutes widow out after the first, you know, the four tiny states and in part, but but the other dynamic that's different. Let's say from when the Republicans were running with so many different people or. We we get back to bed up for a second. So about at what what is your sense about Beddoes appeal and in who will reach. I mean, he's young into some which is about all I can say about him. And he definitely got to he intimates that he is. You know, he's a fresh new Guida politics would be the first, you know, unequivocally gen-x president. That's about all say about him. I think you that looked like something out of the onion. But it was real unsteady them. I believe it said Bego promises to reunite the Mars Volta if elected president, I think if you just you know. I'm simplifying here. But if you take the premise that the main argument inside, the Democratic Party is between people who understand that Trump is a threat and crisis, and he needs to be defeated. And then there's bigger long-term structural crises that we also need to confront and deal with and you could argue to the degree whether it's a crisis of capitalism, which I think or even just kind of Kensington argument about inequality that's fine versus like, you know, element of the resistance that is really just purely Trump Centric. And I think beta is like the distillation of that perspective. I mean, even this morning. I just caught like praising John McCain like he is the fulfillment of the I don't wanna think about politics. I just want to get back to HBO go and have a nice guy in the White House sentiment. And so it's total call for normalacy amongst the group of people that I think are, you know, generally, just not committed to the broader struggles dynamics those people are split though. Right between beta bite it. Because everyone all these folks just want Obama to be president again. Right. They wanna return to normalcy. And it's like do you want the guy who is friends with Obama or do you want the guy who's like a copy of a copy of a copy of a young Oba weird part is that there's also pulling the shows that the Bernie shares a lot of the supporters like second choice type situation with Beto. And there's an I mentioned this the other day, but all all side again. Josh Marshall got a letter from Mark Heather ring ton who. Yeah. Who Heather ringtone who wrote a book with Jonathan Weiler who's one of our early guests on here talking about terrorism five years ago? I don't know. I can't remember when the was but. And one of the things he says that our research suggests. Okay. So you might be thinking he writes, you might be thinking about Beddoes potential base of support you might not be thinking about his potential basis support in the right way. Those follow politics closely always tend to think about the world in terms of ideology, but decades of research and political science suggests that most people do not ideological terms. And that our research exists that something's more fundamental. What we call worldview. Those who supported Sanders have a worldview that values niece things over mainstream things they stream rather than using cable. They drive hybrids rather than gas powered cars like underdogs and are repelled by the establishment this crowd. Not only voted for Sanders and sixteen voted for Obama. No eight and Bradley in in two thousand for reasons that have nothing to do that Yala. Gee, we think they're going to love beta in twenty twenty he's Nishi. He's not establishment. And from this perspective, he thinks this is what's going to devastate Sanders candidacy, what's your sense idol by it because for one. Just from what I've gathered from hearing Beddoe over the past few days like this is this is very empty pandering. There's not a lot. There of Bernie has the advantage. Warren chairs badge, I think of having compiled a long record of. Taking one side in one specific least one specific fight and of being associated in the public imagination it especially to the democratic base with that fine. I mean, the verse that comes to mind when you think is Warren is Wall Street, but he writes your point. Well, so, but so the your argument is that authenticity in that respect. Right. I mean, this is I agree with the premise that. The median democratic voter is not engaged in an ideological struggle for the heart and soul of the party and anything like that. They have a series of concerns that they want to dress. They have a kind of, you know, a a bullshit quotient, you know, they will sense that like anyone they don't want to be pander to they will be repelled if they feel that somebody's dissembling to them. So yeah, I would say that if you're voter is. Essentially comparing brands in a supermarket here. Then authenticity is a brand. We'll don't forget beta is a white guy. So he will probably appeal to that slice of Fernie rose who wants to keep a woman in winning which is of course, most of us. But I think the point that I want to say specifically to that number which I think were their argument, which I also don't buy, and it's and it's because this is anecdotal. But it's it's like when he's running against Ted Cruz in Texas, and he's on his skateboard, and he's occasionally making the right noises about copper, Nick that is a novelty in a democratic primary against Sanders in Warren saying sort of generic third way claptrap that novelty Wicklow raiders off. And interestingly, I think Kamala Harris at her team realize very early on which is why they're aggressively staking out these left positions often niche left positions. Right. Like, give me an example, Utah. She for one is one of the candidates boycotting eight-pack right now. Of it. She eighty came out for what drug legalization a sensitively said sex work criminals, but that's already -able, but still it's not something you would have expected from her. And especially something she ever would have said in any of her prior races. Right. And that's also her trying to sort of like build some type of firewall against her proc- here who regularly prosecutor, right? A me like she has specific sort of. Issues set where she has some liability particularly, you know, with a guy like let's Cory Booker in the race. Who's who has his issue in the same way that you know, you can say banks for Elizabeth Warren, you could say criminal Justice reform, I guess for Cory Booker, whether and I would also charge for a certain kind of voter who thanks maybe criminal Justice form is not their priority. But they can't ignore it. And they know that this is a great moral stain. It's a signal on the on the country, and they wanna hear something about that. Maybe they're not gonna maybe they're not so motivated that. Other candidates attached. If they attacked ran attack ads on on Kamala Harris about her time as AG maybe that's not really gonna stick because it's not a priority. But they still want to hear something about it. And something more than just a bromide about. Oh, we gotta do something. I think too that one of the things that I don't know if you you've heard much out of that book by John sides was it identity crisis. There were two other authors. But we we interview John side. So I can't remember the other two authors. I think but one of the things that happened during the Obama years was and then the subsequent Trump years. The most amazing statistic comes out of that keep repeating it. Fifty percent of. White. Non college educated voters thought the Republicans were to the left of Democrats on race has laid as the 'oughts, and then Barack Obama got elected. And they were like, wait a second. The thoughts left. What did the Democrats do that they elected a black president so everybody the people got very highly a lot of political issues got very racial is during the Obama years, and that of course, they've gotten even more racial is during the Trump years, and it's gone both ways white voters have seen. You know, have have moved. There's been polarization on race. And so when Kamala Harris is is criticized about things like poo poo in criminal Justice reform that becomes sort of a societas with race and made it's obviously because it's a it's also a racial issue. I suspect that that there's a there's there's a lot going on there in terms of like signifying not just to signifying to the broad Democratic Party coalition. Who sees you know, obviously that as a racial Justice issue. Is is is his big there. But so what else sticks out for you at this point? Like where where is there any other candidates? They're doing stuff that surprised you as to what position they're taking. I've got to think about it. Because you know, we who a few more white guys have jumped in. And it's it's it's a few too many for me to keep track of at this point. I read the other day that of Michael Bennett is thinking about getting in where does he squeeze in? Or is he just like this for a I'm gonna get, HUD or something I feel like everybody jumps into it feel like everybody does that elderlaw Zeo keeps insisting that he's for we're talking about a couple, and we we were talking about in terms of the debates because they're going to have the first debate, and they're gonna have to debates chosen by lot. But there's a max of ten on each state. So even if you qualify for that debate, you can still be squeezed out because they'll have to use some kind of metric to. To trim the list. How many how many donations you get is my understanding that is the mud. Yes. How many individual donors have end? Or polling data leave is what they're going with right now. And I said, Matt, thanks. You know, Matha we could get to twenty. And I said, I don't think that's going to be the case. Now, I'm like get the twenty five right? I mean, well, though, the bar to entry drops the more people who enter pretty guess also sucks up lot of oxygen room because there's another white guy in Colorado running, but you too many. Yes. And also, I talked to people in Colorado. And they hate Michael Bennett. I haven't thing is I haven't done a deep dive into Michael Bennett or Hickenlooper because I just don't have time to write records to listen to of course. And haven't even heard if Michael Bennett, so excuse my ignorance kinda like nut Flanders the Simpsons. You got pissed off Ted Cruz on the so fracking Ted Cruz. Very boring. All right. Well, you didn't. I have heard of is this Mike gravel fellow. Do you? Do you have little GRA Vel? Oh, do you have any insider knowledge, you can share about that bird? Now, not really not really not more than you, probably know. He's obviously the best like fun candidate. Like, I'm not a yankovic. I'm gravel gang like these teenagers. Did they hack his Twitter account or what their chapel their confirmed? Chapa? Listen, they are fans of the show. I believe are teams from Westchester. And they they Alexandra Okasha Cortez's neighbors, and they are fans of the show. And I guess they heard one of us talk about Mike rebel or just allude to Mike rebel. We didn't do like a Mike Grell deep dive or anything, and they looked into the guy and thought he sounds great. And I guess they called him up and said will you run for president grandma? And he said, all right. Sure. So he handed over his Twitter willingly. I mean, I assume they made it for him. But he's he's giving giving it his blessing. Wow. Well, that's how does that feel for you, man. Knowing that you might directly influence some ideas on the debate stage. I I don't know if he'll actually be a debate. Could he gets sixty five thousand individual donors? I mean, I'll all donate or how many people are listening to the show right now. That's the start right? Yeah. It is. I mean, I. How many people listen to Chapo trap house? It's a good start. I guess I don't know what he would say though, because he's been out of the public for ten years. And then when he was in then he was out of the public eye for about another dozen to fifty twenty years prior to that. That's the thing about it to eight. I remember him in these people have been short clips, especially when you're talking about four policy and the rock war where every single other person on that stage, perhaps with the exception of does who said, it's essentially had a view that was I identify to John McCain's in terms of Iraq policy. I would say I would say that at the end of that race October. In the in the presidential debates in the fall between McCain and Obama, neither say anything substantially different from the. Well, I think I mean to be fair, and I don't know that it's really I mean. This is not stuff that you brag about I think if you're Obama, but he he he's specifically wanted to draw down from Iraq to Rebollo stir the Afghan war. I mean that was basically what he was running on was we draw down from Iraq. We go back to the one that we should have been fighting in the first place in Afghanistan, this, isn't workout. But his he was just basically right surge. Wrong country was his was his point at the at that point. And I'm sorry. I'm trying to buck down on this because I only kind of half beverage at that point haven't they hadn't both of the candidates implicitly accepted the premise that. Oh, the surge was good at work. And we're basically on our way out. Now, there was idea that the Iraqi army will stand up always the argument was between the emphasis of whether it was the surge or this thing that they called kind of gone, the spy awakening, which is the sort of very melodramatically of putting it. So the argument was literally between Dewey praise betray his for surging. Troops and doing really aggressive counterinsurgency. And of course, no mention of any type of civilian casualties. Or is it all just that? We like bought these people payments, right? Literally, we paid off these tribal, and then basically when we left because there was no framework for that to be durable. They ended up just getting screwed by new government and those remnants wanted to ISIS. But like the argument, I guess I think the bigger point like I think the details were important at the time. But I think the bigger point you're trying to make his true, which is that. There was no argument on the table of this is sort of structurally wrong that we're doing. It was just is it which is the right way to administer an imperial adventure. And then yeah, we need to get out this describing, and I can't you're describing they're the main conflict was about emphasis there, everyone except that. Oh, well, we're we're not gonna leave tomorrow. We have commitments there on the head allies. All worse getting into a foolishly is getting out to foolishly, right? I'm sorry. It's it's it's a it's substantially the same thing that the you're beating Republican politician was calling four as well. And Mike reveal was the only one on says it says no we should go like tomorrow. The only thing worse than someone dying for loss causes someone else. Die for law school. Right. Right. And I think about original point. There was a Mike reveal was you know, as as morally correct as he was kind of still sounded to halfway incoherent ten years ago. Yes. My recollection. Yes. I think I mean, I don't I don't think it would be doing him a service necessarily to have him out. You know, a politicking at this point. But that's what happens when Matt Crispin is too cowardly to do that job himself. I agree. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. I agree that about the coward back Crispin. Absolutely. But here's the thing as we said they're limiting that debate stage to twenty people. Right. So someone like gang whose claims to have passed this. Utterly arbitrary. You know, DNC test to get in the debates could still by the rules that they've set ready be limited from the debate stage kicked off he could be kicked off. Well, if there's twenty other people in front of him. Yes by the rules that they got out. But as well, keep this in mind, DNC press release isn't a binding contract. Well, that's right. I mean, the only the only hold they have over over the candidates are if you participate in a in a rival debate. Like, if you five of you set up another the only thing that we can do is lock you out of of the official thinking lot out of the circumcision forum. Right. Lock you out of the debate. Just by saying we locked you out at the bait. That's no, I understand that. But that's, but but but usually what happens is I mean, certainly is what happened in two thousand sixteen was if you go to any other forum to debate if you agree to debate in any other forum, you will be barred from. From participating in our sanctioned debates are will let me ask you this. How much will the debates matter if there are ten people on stage because you're talking I mean, let's say it's one hundred twenty minutes, and then, you know, maybe twenty those minutes or tied up in questions. Right as a minimum. And I mean, you're talking about eight minutes per candidate or something like that over the course of two hours. Do these debates ever really matter that much and Nautilus totally screws up. I feel it's what it's like the vice presidency. They matter in the negative. Imagine for Trump last run. Yeah, on I'm just I'm trying to seriously consider the premise I leading question write anything and of I think, yes. I would say so, but it mattered not for you know, what was the entire one hundred twenty minutes of it. It's just a handful of specific clashes and encounters that you know. You know, express something that's unsaid. Right. I get to the subtext of all the falsity of this. And that's what Bernie didn't in sixteen. That's what Trump didn't six. I think in in in primaries in particular. I think they make a big difference. And because you have much more engaged electorate, and they're they're looking for. I mean, theoretically, right. They're looking for. They may not be looking for the the the ideological granularity. But they're looking for they're looking for more granularity than I think people are looking at debates on in the general election, which is good or bad. This one has I think at least some measure nuance. But here's my point is that. Bernie was able to do what he was able to do in those debates, despite the fact that they were on it, you know, three in the morning on a Saturday night or something because there was three people on stage, or maybe, you know, at worst at the most it was five right when web and Shaffi Chafee and Martin O'Malley and. And the it was so clear that Clinton and and Sanders, we're going to be the two at the end of this race even early on that the questions were focused their now, you're gonna have a situation where Bernie and Warren, let's say are not are gonna have a tougher time. It seems to me making these start comparisons. When keep this. At bide Bernie had ample time when the debates were what on one or what onto to lay out his case lay out his vision? America Lael what distinguishes him from Hillary Clinton. He's still lost like just having just having more time. And the time to yourself isn't some you know guarantee that you're gonna win. No. Of course, not of course, not. But I'm saying to the extent that that Betto is has is authentic and does not have policies. Can you find that out when he could get away with talking for four minute? We'll hold up the chain a debate. Like, I think I think in advantage on the other hand. That centers in Warren might have is that all of the center candidates will go at each other beta will try to like fly above and then if they coordinated correctly Sanders and warn can both be like, dude. What about you know, the trade votes? What about the banking votes? What about this this, and this keep in mind, these are going to centrist might the beta to frankly, either trying to pivot left, but keep in mind. These debate stages will be decided by lot lot. Right. So we don't know who's going to be on the stage. It could be you could have a sage that's Beddoe and nine also rans who were all pulling at one percent. That's crazy. I'll be good for. I mean. I mean that would be tough to imagine. Great. This could this could make just just remarkable ridiculous exchanges. Like, we can get that that great side-by-side image of Bernie Sanders and Marianne Williamson having it out over. What can visual ause your way to social Justice? You're reading everyone's Chaka's. What do you think Bernie's is at this point? I'm seeing like his. Favorability ratings are not lobby what they were at the end of twenty sixteen that there's a lot of different reasons why that could be the case and. The there's some theory, I guess Harry Entin, although you know, Harry aunt, and I was a little skeptical of two thousand sixteen when we were talking about he was at he he was at that point at five thirty eight I think, and Harry lately has seemed to be going more and more in the pundit direction. He's been a little bit less. Yeah. A little bit more of just like extrapolating from one data point, which is the kind of thing. He would have really lectured you about doing right, right, right? There is I I get that sense. And there is some of that he has some the implication is and it also he thinks Biden is going to going to have a problem with this too. Was that he does better when he's not considered a major threat to win that underdog impulse. You're talking right, which I think is probably true of a lot of people. Here's because this race. There are so many people in this race. And there are at least a half dozen people. I can credibly see at the end of this race. I don't think there's ever going to be a point where he looks like this unstoppable juggernaut. Okay. And as well, there's always going to be a point where if it seems like he's getting close to that. There will be a stop Bernie movement. All right. So that that brings up my. The the question I've been waiting to ask all day. Half a dozen people who could be in at this race at the end it unlike the Republican party, we do not have a winner take all in the in terms of the delegates. So virtually every state you come out of you're going to have you're gonna have a distribution of the delegates that are going to go to people that'd probably be. I mean who knows what that distribution is going to be. But if you have six people at the end of the race, one can imagine what that distribution of delegates is going to be nobody's going to even close to getting half the delegates. Nobody's going to be close. There. Are there are vagaries in the way that this is a side. It's almost like a mini electoral college in some Sates, for instance, in certain states. It's not just going to be you know, you get forty percent of the vote. You get forty percent of the Dalai. Right. That's how often it's it's cases like their allocated by congressional district. Right. Variations there. But nevertheless, the chances of anybody getting even close to fifty percent. Plus one seemed to me to be stream Lee remote. So I kind of a long answer. This thought about this for bit first off to two wheel back to the core question here. Bernie's you burning us unique challenge every candidate has just a basic organizational challenge, and he seems very well positioned to overcome that right now his court challenge is basically the same one that he had in two thousand sixteen which is winning over black voters. He did not. He got absolutely destroyed in the South Carolina primary. It was the third after he almost leapt Iowa New Hampshire. He is destroyed by this lot, totally lopsided margin. There. What was it was like eighty twenty something he rolled seventy thirty think it was the actual number. And I'm sorry, you you can't really win the nomination in today. If that's how you're doing with black voters, and he knows that. That's why right out of the gate. He's you know, he's making these aggressive appeals to African-American primary voters. It remains to be seen how well that will go, you know, you might be an optimist repesentes about it. But I don't think we're in a position where that's comparable to say nineteen seventy two or I think nineteen eighty eight was much the same where there was a black candidate who won in these states where at that point. There was a substantial number of black democratic primary voters. Thereby but did not really win anywhere else. I've talking about Jesse Jackson. Right. Shirley chisholm. So that's that's the first challenge. The other one is. It's yeah. It is. It is the plurality voting system. The allocation system these the agreement that the DNC made in the that unity commissioned thing after twenty sixteen really did not help Bernie at all. All it said was super delegates don't count on the first ballot. That's right. Well, okay, now, he has to win a majority of pledged delegates which means winning something pretty damn close to a majority of the popular vote overall, irrespective of how many opponents. Yes. A majority of the popular vote not the plurality. Right. I mean, the majority of the those two it is possible sitting the vagaries, and the fact that there are still a couple caucuses left. And it seems to me I mean, I can I can see the Warren delegates Suming, she has, you know, how many delegates she has at the convention of owning Bernie, but it's very hard for me to see a lot of delegates. I can see people voting. People who were be Bernie friendly voting for Batta. Let's say or Bernie friendly voting for other candidates, but the delegates are going to be inclined to be, you know. I mean, I I I think that it's very hard for me to imagine that those other delegates who are like you say are not gonna congealed around a another sort of like not Bernie candidate at that point. Right. And so. Give me an idea of what you thought about in terms of these basically he has to win this by substantial it can't look close. He can't be one of the two in at the end of the two thousand eight primary where the Hillary Clinton campaign says, well, there's an argument to be made that she actually won the popular vote overall. He can't be bogged down in that because he's going to lose that. Because the machinery of the party is opposed to him how big a margin you think though. I don't know. But I mean, it's it's I mean, I mean if he won fifty and every and nobody's close to that shor shor fifty. I think there has to be some inbetween number that we stake in terms like building legitimacy, and that argument, I just wanna say, no, I always say this. But this is really important. I mean. I mean, it goes out saying he needs to do. Well, and frankly, everybody if you want to win the democratic primary or become president as a democrat needs to do incredibly, well and not only with African American voters, but actually deliver materially for African American voters. We should add. But you know, there is not a monolithic African American vote. And I think you know, it might just be the case like he needs to significantly do better in South Carolina. But South Carolina across the board is is represented by relatively speaking more, conservative Democrats, and again, he needs to do better. But we did see last time when you got the industrial midwest those Martin's got a lot tighter. And that isn't just because he was more exposed. That's also because you're talking about a different political tradition. And I think we need to start really disaggregated like a religious oriented politics of South Carolina versus a labor oriented politics. Milwaukee is an example and simultaneously needs to do way better. But they're still going to be tough. Road to hoe in a place like South Carolina. And there isn't a monolithic one-dimensional vote. It's a very complex demographic. Look any other right as well. I don't mean to imply that the black vote will go to black candidates. No. I mean. No. Of course. I think I think I mean, my read is that South Carolina. And I think probably this does work fairly well, Bernie, I'm not convinced. I don't think he will win South Carolina, frankly. But I don't see good. He clipped will. That's nice in way. He certainly could. And I think that that. Yes. That could go there's South Carolina's state where you could. I think you could tick off five or six people that I would think like, yeah. That like Biden could win. It beta could win it Harris could win it look win. It Sanders could win it. Those are all totally smart legitimate picks. As of the information, we have now the other thing is. A lot of the talk has been about exactly what we're saying. Right now that you know, this could be a contested convention that when the dust settles there could be three or more candidates still standing with a substantial delegate count. That's just kind of the thing. We're just fantasizing about it could also be a situation where one candidate does extremely well in the early states. Does extremely well Super Tuesday and becomes unstoppable. Right. So here's the question about that. Then because when you say there's going to be a stop Bernie campaign. That's obviously a reference to the stop McGovern campaign that they had in nineteen seventy two and people like to compare Bernie to McGovern in a lot of different ways. The argument they'll make the fact that you know, in many ways this social forces have shifted significantly since the seventies. I mean McGovern did not have a problem with black voters. He had a problem with white working class voters. He was totally abandoned by organized labor but McGovern was able more than abandoned they worked against him. I had worked against them and Senate to be he was he was an extremely labor candidate. And they still hated him because lots of reasons, but he was against the Vietnam war. For one. But like given the the obstacles that Bernie faces right now, but govern was able to surmount the stop McGovern campaign, and then he lost horribly in the general. But do you think there are any lessons that we can take from that for how to surmount any kind of stop Bernie campaign that arises I mean, I don't know because I mean, these things are there out of our hands. Basically, we can take the immediate example, if the stop Trump campaign, the never Trump people just embarrass themselves. I mean, the thing is what was out of the never Trump people's hands. Was the fact that there were two never Trump candidates in the race right at that point. So Bernie's best case scenario is and he's you know, he won the New Hampshire primary by landslide last time around. And he almost won the Iowa caucus is to win both and then post substantial margins in the Super Tuesday primaries, maybe do well or limited losses in South Carolina. And just by virtue of that. Look good enough to the voters in the remaining states. The second best scenario is he does some version of that. He does pretty well. Well enough to be clearly ahead in the delegate counts. Perhaps even a majority of the pledged delegates up to that point not necessarily. He's like cleanly running away with this thing. And but that. There are still like four or five people still hanging on in this race. Right. You have like a Beddoe and Biden and Kamala Harris, which is why I wanted to lemberg to run so badly because he has to stay in the entire time, and he'll never ever get close to that. Right. But he will be there to siphon off voters who would never ever ever vote for Bernie. And if they were gonna vote for Bloomberg they're not gonna vote for somebody who actually has a chance to win. I also think difference just historically is like you didn't have millions of people on social media and other distributional nodes of power to freak out about what was happening to McGovern, and he still did in fact at the nomination, right? And also if I mean who knows maybe Bernie will be so damaged the poll numbers will reverse. But as of now, you couldn't you could. Bernie's a totally is a very strong general election contender if I'm right, historically. Maybe it wasn't predicted in the polls that he would lose forty nine states. To one, but it was already really clear that like this doesn't look good in general election. This is like a lamb to slaughter type of situation. And I think that makes the calculus I mean, another reason I don't like Bernie supporters building their arguments on elected -bility either. I just think that the. If one of the reasons is like, oh, Bernie will lose nothing bears that out in the polling data and one of the arguments against some was he will lose. But she did. Yeah. He was up against a popular incumbent at a time. When the economy was relatively strong stronger than it is now, but like I did see an article numbers of the economy are pretty are pretty. Konami is going to probably tank ecstasy. See article the other day. I don't know how much credence you give it that said, I think it was in Forbes that said all of these short term economic indicators are strong, and if they stay strong, it's favorable Trump winning just. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's it's it's not going to be a walk in the park. Every even though the president breweries are extremely low. You look at the Boeing data and bite in his doing the best. The best means. Four percent of bargin right now. Good. How accurate are the polls at this point in time because we've seen polls be very wrong before and it's very early still right now. So like, and then I see Biden pulling it's like the front runner like how how much should we trust that? I mean, it doesn't it has no predictive values of thing. It's really just a snapshot in time. I think I think they actually there accurately capturing probably what it is right now the question like you say it's in terms of predictive things get pretty predictive though, pretty quickly. I mean, if you go back and look at twenty sixteen where Donald Trump, I mean, I remember we were talking about Donald Trump is up in the polls and people fades ego back. You look at Romney Romney, also I mean, if you the whoever's in the lead come out of this summer twenty nine eighteen or excuse me twenty nineteen when you start getting. Around like, August of twenty nineteen you're going to the numbers. You're starting to see you're going to have some predictive value. Of course, there's a trend. But, but it's it's rare that there's a lot unless there who knows this year could be very could be a lot of fluctuation. I mean, we don't know what's going to happen at the end of the day doing. That's just tell every really do like the at the end of the debt ending. Unless there is some substantial structural change from here to election day, November twenty twenty. I think that what the president gets alternately in the role what the democratic nominee gets is going to fall within extremely narrow band in terms of. Yes. In terms of popular, right? The real question is the electoral like we could get that twice in a row. Let's let's go very well. I want to this to center of horrible scenarios today. These are plausible. I I've got the loud pipes, and nobody. I'm not fan. Fantasizing that Verdy centers will win by a ten point margin, which would be a landslide who's thinking. If anybody isn't anybody articulates anything remotely close to that. The first thing I would do start to hydrate because you're having some type of episode. It's a four point margin in any way that would. But there's two there's two scenarios, right? That that that that come up one is sort of a nineteen sixty eight national democratic national convention type of scenario. Right. Like, I mean things got I mean, I was at the last convention, and it was there. It was things got a little bit rockets there. Nothing too crazy. Some of the some of I thought the protests were not affective. There was one protest out in front of radio row where people literally put tape on their mouths. Pro tip radio row. Not the place to do a silent. Protest does not get the kind of coverage you're going to want. This is something you want to do in front of TV cameras or you do a louder protest in front of radio row. But putting that aside? There's the potential for that. And then we can talk about the electoral college, Elizabeth Warren brought it up, and I don't think it was. I mean, what do you make of that? Because obviously that's not going to happen, right? The the national vote popular vote compact that's off the table at least for twenty twenty maybe off the table forever. But it doesn't make think about the comeback. I one is. I actually think there's a strong area with me that it is unconstitutional. Right. Even if every individual step, you know scans. That's every individual's up is acceptable. The overall thing is on constitute, right? And the second part is what if you are for this to work this to make sense. You would be swing states. What are swing states now to sign onto it? Right. Would they want to loot their influence, right? Of course. And why would not only would they want to dilute their influence, but they're also they're more. Or likely to be dominated by Republicans, or at least have Republicans who have enough power to say like wait a sec. I don't wanna lose the right, right? I mean, maybe the next time there's the Democrats control everything in Pennsylvania by a wide margin. They can be strong arm into doing it. But the other point is a few candidates are talking about. Balloting, the electoral college, but it's it's it's a process thing. Nobody cares about a process thing. But is it doesn't signify though to a certain sent a certain amount of partisanship. Or certain amount of like, I mean to me, I think it's I think it's like a it's just a signifier. I mean, I think I read it right now as a as a partisanship thing. I don't read it as a willingness to actually want to transform the structure of our governance. Right. Which obviously there's there is a conversation happing about that. So I don't know. Maybe you know, what what what what all of this boils down to all this stuff when we talk about packing. The courts will be talking about limiting supreme court Justice terms. What we talk about Bala Shing the filibuster. These are all means to an end and the Democratic Party hasn't fundamentally embraced this notion. And certainly the, you know, the establishment in the stakeholders do not want to embrace this notion that yes the. Fundamental the these structures of governance right now have to be either reformed or destroyed in order to get what we want right? Well, there's going to be to possible flashpoints. It seems to me that that convention depending on who ends up getting the the majority of the delegates on the third vote that they take a third round voting or second round of voting. That could get. That's also why I say Bernie has to win cleanly because. If you know he gets thirty three percent of the vote while a Harris thirty three percent of own Beto work is thirty three percent of the vote. Okay. That goes to a contested convention while anyone can walk out of there, and the party can more or less stay unified. What Bernie has won fifty percent of the popular vote but still loses on the first ballot? And then get screwed by the super delegates. Like, that's it for the Democratic Party the s I agree. I mean, the the question is what if it's in between there like like, I agree with you. And I think it's much harder for them to do it. If he gets fifty percent of the vote exactly even forty nine percent or even forty seven percents made forty eight percent. But, but if you start getting into like he got forty percent of the vote as opposed to thirty three percent of like now, we're in this territory, where it's like that's where it seems to be be the ugliest because at fifty percent of the vote you're gonna have a lot of people even people who are just like I want the Democratic Party to be unified to defeat Donald Trump. Even if you. It's forty nine percent. And I'm not a, you know, somebody says I'm not Sanders fan but for nine percent that's close enough. Let's keep the Democratic Party unified. But when he gets forty percent, it's like to me is like. What do you do? Well, the thing is he still standing at the end of it any as a plurality of the pledged delegates. It's gonna be hard to deny him the nomination, even if you can make you know, some credible argument, we're we're just discussing arguments and spin that we'll be doing right. But if he, you know, if he has the most pledged delegates at the end of this, even without a majority, a substantial number of his support base will be Bernier bus. I agree. Ability is gonna come into play. Right. That seems like it's going to be a major argument that they're going to be making on both sides. There's going to be like at that point. It's not gonna it's just going to be insanity. It's just I don't think. I don't think anybody making your rack our is. I think that I hate there. I think that there should be. If there is the organizational capacity to do this that there should be a left ballot line in all fifty states for presidential candidate that is left open, pending the result of the democratic convention interesting. So here's a question. You said that most people don't vote based on ideology, they vote based on like other dumber factors like how the person seems to them and their vibe. But a lot of the democratic candidates. This time around seem to be making it part of their strategy to move to the left and take up a lot of the things that Bernie was talking about the last time around like are they are they wrong. Are they partly wrong? Like how does that track was the figures? Both people are not gonna make up their minds until a week before election day. Most people don't know who like virtually all of these candidates are. So that's why the primary polling data's is. Just you know, it's it's a relevant at this point. It's always been a relevant. Right now, if you're pulling it two percent or you have these obvious liabilities. You've gotta start somewhere. You have to do the basic work of politics, which means putting together a coalition getting people on your side. And there's plenty of people who are single issue voters who are part of organizations like the for instance, or who have just one priority, whether that's reproductive rights or gun control or something like that. You know, it's fair play to say, you know. Well, okay. I want to be the gun control candidate. I want to be the climate change candidate. And those those potential voters are really the only ones who are listening, right? What? Yeah. It's not just not just potential voters voters, potentially huge those. But also organizaion this way organizational, capacity money, right, right? Those people who. Yeah. Those those sort of the the low hanging or. Yeah. The low hanging fruit, I guess it terms of where. You know, they're out there. They're shopping themselves around they want to give in some fashion to campaign. This is the time we start scoop, those people up also what the and you also want people with credibility in certain fields to be on your side, you want the people who have been agitating for something like a green new deal for cutting carbon emissions for several years now and have a lot of money behind that. And have a lot of credentials to that front to be on your side and give you cover for these things. Kamala Harris wants people who have been criminal Justice reform advocates for their entire lives to be on her side and give her cover. These are endorsements that the general public not aware of but people who are interested in that that that that topic area. Would it would have an impact? All right. Well, listen, we're going to take a break and headed we take a break. We have a special guest may wanna stick around for this. Okay. I was the special guest. We have another special guest. This is we rarely do to special. Guests on a Friday. But this one on special. We're going to have what we're gonna do is. Let's take a break. We're gonna have to dim the lights, and we're going to we're going to have to see if we can work this out to see if we have the I guess technology, and frankly, the spirituality to get our next guest on we're gonna take quick break. We'll be right back ways role with our special. We're not going to the fun. Oh, no. We're not going to the fun half. We're going to special guest right now. All right. We'll take a quick break. And we'll try and dial this person up. Ladies and gentlemen, we are back Sam cedar on the majority report. So. Our next guest in some respects. I got the sense that we could. Okay. We don't need the next the Senator next could could come on the show, frankly, I've been talking about have not been sleeping. Well, this may be part of the reason version you probably wanna put your headphones on not sure exactly how you will hear this person. But I don't know if the headphones will make a difference, frankly, but. So I've been telling people have not been sleeping. Well, maybe this is part of the reason. But I'd like to. Well, I do we have a clip of of Donald Trump to exploit this. This is. Which was. Number two. Let's play number two. This is Donald Trump. With what was his former friend, Fox News Maria bar Toronto. On the issue of of of Senator McCain. And replaced. We would have had great healthcare misprint jed. He can't punch back punch back yet. I don't talk about it. People. Ask me the question. I didn't bring this up. You just brought it up US. The question talked about this week US the question when I went out yesterday to the scrum. They asked me the question when they asked me the question, I answer the question, but you people bring it up. I don't bring it up. I'm not a fan. He was horrible. What he did with repeal and replace. It was what he did to the Republican party and to the nation and to sick people could have had great healthcare was not good. So I'm not a fan of John McCain, and that's fine. Do you feel a responsibility as president to bring the nation together? Do I do? And I think I am in a certain way bringing together can tell you that a big portion of this nation is United like it's never been United before you look at our economy. You look at jobs, you look at African American the lowest in the history of our country unemployment numbers, the best numbers they've ever had. That's what I'm Spanich. You look at Asian. You look at women the best sixty five years best numbers and sixty five years. I think I am bring together. I think I'm bringing together talking John McCain. I said you brought up a question. I didn't bring it up. I didn't mention John McCain until you ask me a question about John McCain now, I could say I have no comment. But that's not me. But you shouldn't have brought it up. Actually, I thought you weren't supposed to bring it up. But that's okay, fake news. It's fake news. You just told me why you have an issue with him. It's real issue. He handed something on me. He news fake. He handed it to the FBI. That's an issue. And now we're going to get and replace of ObamaCare. He campaigned for years, that's an issue. But I didn't bring it up where you did. Well, I really feel like there's some type of falling out there anyways. Like, I say, I have not been sleeping. Well. And I think I know part of the reason I don't know if you're there on what device. Ice that we could be reaching you. But Senator John McCain's ghost are you with us, Harry, you my friend pipes keep you up at night. They they are. They are. Thank you for joining us. I don't know where he sounds like is there any way you can turn them down. I don't know if there's a Senator can you just give a counter going, different spiritual realm right now. Are you there? I'm right here. Okay. That's to go. Yeah. Just problem. All right. Well. Senator John McCain's goes I have to ask you why why are you why are you hunting Donald Trump in this way? Well, my friend, as you know, John McCain tellies tells it like it is which is the apposite of Donald Trump, and it's a complete lie. I haven't been haunting him at all I've been haunting joy Behar who's been a total bitch to my daughter on the view who I've been haunting my friend. Then the idea that Donald Trump. We're was he in Vietnam I've been haunting joy and one night. I made whippy think that her dreads were that there was a bird in her dreads. But besides that, it's all been joy burden or dreads. Okay. But you you tell me you haven't been because it really appears like. Died months ago a year. I don't know. And Don Trump seems to be constantly talking about him. You telling me that you have not. I mean, you have not been haunting I have not been hunting Donald Trump. It's been a very disorienting time for me. And I'll tell you the most disorienting part, I've even realizing being of what it's been like to be dead as a completely different life altering experience. Donald Trump has nothing to do with what has been disorienting about being dead. Well, for one getting used to not having a physical form and Secondly, not getting invited on meet the press on a weekly basis. Right. That's gotta be very that's going to be tricky. But let let let's let's be clear about something, my friend, whatever it is in my spiritual form, not getting invited on meet the press. You know, what it is? It's good for John McCain good for John McCain rights. There was a lot of that back in the day. But all right. So you ever disrespected my daughter, you ju-. Yeah. I have. I'm sorry. Well, get used to the pipe noises and coming in and complaining about your your back in whatever God damn else. The one thing I like about being dead is I call you ju- like that no repercussions. No repercussions. And so tell me what you you you. You haven't been you claim you haven't been haunting Don Trump yet. The only I mean, we've have at least almost a half a dozen Republicans who've come out and said it's inappropriate for for for Trump to be. Criticizing you in your death Graham used asked me for pictures back when I was in in the air force just so we could look at him. No. I didn't know that you. Where's jack? What's that? I'm sorry. John McCain you work quite a snack. So I don't think you can really blame. That was never in question. Was that in question? Anybody was in question just asking you. So now is there is there? So you claim not to be haunting down Trump yet. Why is your name still? Why why are we talking? Why are we talking to you? First of all when you went six in the city or something Javer do anything notable at your life that I would know you for well, I was actually on sex in the city. I did do a guest spot there. I'm guessing with the lawyer broad and that one of the hot ones it was with the lawyer broad. Yes. Not one of did you even get to sleep with her or is it sort of like a best friend? But straight guy sort of thing originally written for gig. I given a you instead is like a Jew thing. That's almost. Totally accurate depiction of the role. I played. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you being straight with me. So I'm gonna give it to you straight. I haven't been haunting Donald Trump. But have you ever seen the film the six cents? I did. Yes. Actually, you know, how Bruce Willis didn't know he was dead. Right. So for several months after I died in the well of the Senate saying that we need to give my Dover Moldova stoop case nukes that confront Putin and Lindsey isn't even there to give me a back massage. And it was a well, how did you come to realize that you were actually dead? I realized it on the fourth time that Chuck Todd did not return. One of my techs when I said, hey, you fucking cube. All loser. Where's my spot of NBC? And there was no response. Would you have daughter stop asking me for money? And that's how you knew that you were dead at that point. And I said my friends if we don't simultaneously bomb Libya, Ukraine, suitcase, nukes, Melva arm, an insurgency in Venezuela and unilaterally recognize a joint state between Saudi Arabia and Israel. Putin is one and there wasn't one media booking. Did you have that moment? I remember that movie where like Bruce Willis was completely freaked out. And he kept running around the house and looking and replaying stuff in his head like, what did you have one of those things I call Jeff flake? I said, hey, what's up gay flake nothing? I told Cindy that our new nail job maker looked like a working woman put it that way. Nothing registered of Reggie just ignored just like only going. As you can imagine having a complete narcissistic personality disorder is very difficult. When you're a ghost imagine. It's difficult. Have have you reached out to anybody else? I mean, it's sort of weird that you would connect because I was never quite the fan. Well, I mean, I was obviously never fan of you. I found politics aside Janine graph, low to be a much more appealing radio personality. Fair enough. But I've always enjoyed the company of Jews who bitch and whine about their health. And since Joe like Lindsey is completely portrayed me. Not only chump, but the goddamn Chinese, and I can't seem to get an NBC Booker to get booked as a ghost. But that's what working on my friend. So I would like to come in, my spiritual form and explain why of course, we can assassinate Madero actually very easily. So you've come to me because Joe Lieberman wasn't available. So what you're saying is that the most insulting thing you've ever heard in your life. It's pretty close. Kids a little bit worse. But like, I bet your facial expression, which I can see right now spiritually looks like my wife when I tell I wonder hair makes her look like all right? Well, listen, John McCain's ghost. Thank you so much for taking the time today. Maybe we will talk to you again in the future. I will see you tonight, my friend, but I hope you enjoy your casper mattress because no rest. Oh, well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much. That's great casper. Plug John McCain's ghost doesn't mince words super cranky still he he's already canceled. So he can say whatever he wants literally cancelled when were you on sex in the city that back in when I dunno one that sex in the city was on what what were you doing? I played Letterman Lou the guy who chewed his stake and spit it out. I never saw never seen that. Sure. I haven't seen all of them. So all right. I'm always suspect. If people who have peaceful, I was joking when I said that you were playing against type, but when have any of us ever known Sam to not finish his stake? Never never. So why did you choose the steak and they spit it out. I had an eating disorder. I was a writer from New York who had moved to L A, and I had a eating disorder. That's how I lost weight and sold a sitcom to play it for laughs. Or were. They was more serious. It was one of the few serious sex in the city's episodes where it was like tonight on sex and the city very special very special. There is to realize her friend has an eating disorder. There is such a stark gender breakdown between who knows about this seat. And who doesn't I was going to say if you're a guy, and you've watched first of all if you're a guy, and you've watched all the sex in the city episodes. It's shocking. I don't know. What else? It doesn't matter. How how impressive the person is. Like we had on Doug Hedwig LIZA Featherstone on the Fatah a little while back, and we're talking about we're talking about Cynthia Nixon at the time and sex in the city came up and Doug had no idea what we were talking about in Leisa just goes, you don't know about Miranda. Definitely not seeing that seeing until I started here. It's a gender. I was like Jesus Christ myself into this episode of the majority party supported by pitchfork economics with Nick hanauer weekly podcast at explores. Why rising income inequality will lead to pitchforks? What we can do about it every week in hours joined by some of the world's most original economic thinkers in a convention busting exploration of who gets what. And why in the American economy if you wanna learn how to make the economy work for all Americans subscribed to pitchfork economics at pitchfork economics dot com, or wherever you get your podcast is time for us now to head into the fun half of the program. Wherein we will have fun. And you can join us there by becoming a member at joined the majority report dot com. Just pennies a day, you can support the free show, and you can get the fun half every day. People are coming people are gonna join us going. 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TM Bs to get the whole thing on I got drunk on Tuesday by accident by accident by Trump max, I was I was at this bar, and this guy I like I had something to do in the city, and I had a lot of time to kill. So just hang out at a bar, and this this guy kept yelling at me and say looked like a musician and demanding to know do that's what he was a weird long guy from the. I met in the west village. He's fingernails painted black. It's like an older, man. And then he kept buying drinks. I'm like, all right, whatever. And he started telling me about how he's being a victim from his op because of the co op or the co-op organized against him for total bullshit reasons. And that just goes to show you that, you know, it's it's it's not just it's not just capitalism. It's also a tyranny. He had e vibe it's gonna say that sounds like an Iggy pop still right now. I remember what he did. He took a photo of me with him. And then he was a musician of some kind of self posted to his Facebook wall and said he had met Sean Lennon at west village bar. And then I gave him my phone number some reason, but he never texted me or any you get drunk in this process. He kept giving me drinks. Oh, I see what you're saying. All right. Well, anything else that you want to talk about to promote the Chapo trap house guy, the Chapo guide to revolution still available. I is is still I do. I did bring a copy. I'm not holding right now is a little weird. Isn't it? Feel naked without. I was gonna say, yeah, you can actually still pick up a copy of the chapel guy to revolution a manifesto against logic. And reason flirt by brianna gray was now Bernie Sanders. National press director nice, and yeah that is available in bookstores from coast to coast paperback edition is coming out later this year, but it's the same same United even updating at all no I wanted to write. A a new introduction. But I think it's just like an added expense for the publisher. And the right really away. They were I should say people go. Can can check people can check out japa- trap house via patriots of via patriot. Yes. Go to chapel trap house dot com. I I've never have to look at my own show. Right. I think if you Google you could probably find I do have another thing to promote New York. The -partment of sanitation is has a campaign to name the members of the recycling team. And the team are these anthropomorphic bins that teach you, recycle and what the compost and all that sort of. I did not know that. But never. They don't have names. Right. So it's hard to refer to them. You're just like the blue one or the green one. That's clearly woman that kind of thing that presents the woman, and so it's a campaign to name them and people can vote on it. Right. Right. And I the voting on the gray one is essentially the leader of the group, you know, their traditional trash can. And the thing is they have like a form with just three names three ballot options and they're all dog ship. You know was like captain hero. Terrible captain here. Nothing has nothing to do with the backstory canton here generic huss- back on that. It's generic it's we should. This is this is for New York City on earth. We should expect more right? They represent all of us. And so I would like them to name if not the great trash can the blue recycle bin or maybe the maybe the compost bin after me after you. Yep. So you can go to look up the New York City department sanitation on Twitter and tell them name can't after Virgil. There's also a form if you scroll down a bit you can find tweeted about it. I don't know voting still on but you can go pick up ballot. There, you know, an online ballot and disregard the three options, they have there's a there's a there's a line to give your Email address. So just right in name the can't after Virgil at G dot com. And that actually an Email address somebody actually made an Email address when I said that on the show. Yeah. And has gone eleven response. So far. I forget what the exact wording was it was named the can after Virgil, I think our name the Virgil g mail either. Either way we're just trying to send constructed campaign. I wish you the best of luck. At that. At that campaign camps hero is from ridiculous type of like cyclone relief in Mozambique right now. Just the contrast. Well, I mean, everybody's got their belly. I actually made this promotion on our episode at the end of our where we spend an hour talking about the Christ Church shooting. That's right. Well, I don't get to decide when when the voting is happening. They they didn't say, oh, we suspending voting because of this tragedy. Well, I think our producer antifa AP. Andy would be very interested in this campaign because like many post anarchists before him. He's really he loves trash. He's really into trash. So you. Bit of a free good. Speaking of the yes, I have a show called the anti Fatah. If you guys have listened to it. You should check it out this week. We had Ellie valley who believed at some illustrations for the chapel book illustration for it. Yeah. We talk about his recent skirmishes with Chelsea Clinton and Meghan McCain. We also broaden it out to a wider discussion of Jewish identity Zionism and the Jewish diaspora. Also, I wanted to plug I was recently on an episode of struggle session with the great Leslie Lee, the third trying to kind of bridge the gap between Goths and leftists. So, you know, clearly that person is me, and we talked about interview with vampire, and well, I learned a lot about vampires. I gotta say I'm a little embarrassed to be gothic American of this age. And no, so. Little about the culture of my own people. In Matt's not here. But people should check out literary hangover on their on the YouTube channel, there's something literary going on with the hangover. All right, folks. We're gonna take. Question thinking about voting write in votes. Have they released the full? I don't know. If you look they released muscles, right? No, no, the right in for the recent public advocate election, New York. Not to my knowledge. Why were you? I'm curious if if either of us were written in. That's right. I forgot that you edged me out in the race for governor one vote, right? And I played what I voted in the public advocate race as you can see by this pin. Pleaded fair. I did not self in. I know I was tempted to well. Good for you. I have not seen those yet. We will see. But maybe we can talk about over the break. How you doing in the polling for the libertarian presidential candidate where I think you'll find that to the extent that it's actually legit. I am winning. All right. We'll take quick break. Head into the fun half. Six sixty seven thirty nine twenty. An for all right, folks. Six sixty five thirty nine twenty. She in the. Alpha males of. 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2013 - Brazil Under Bolsonaro & the State of Venezuela w/ Brian Mier & Eva Golinger

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

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2013 - Brazil Under Bolsonaro & the State of Venezuela w/ Brian Mier & Eva Golinger

"You are listening to a free Berge of majority report with Sam cedar to support this show and get another fifty minutes daily program. Goodridge already dot S M, please. Jarra de rob or with Sam Cedo Thursday, January twenty four th two thousand and two wished his Ellison in nineteen and this is the five time award winning majority report who broadcasting live after brief technical delay. In the steps away from the industrially ravaged Guana canal in the heartland of America downtown Brooklyn USA on today's program, Brian MIR of Brazil wire the descent of Brazil into a fascist mafia state and its connections, the ongoing coup in Venezuela than Eva Dolon jer former legal adviser to shabas going to be speaking with us about what's happening on the ground now Turkey, China Russia rejects the US Canadian backed move. To recognize another president and militarily threatened, the sovereign government with the support of many, many Democrats in the silence of others, Mexico and Uruguay. The Vatican are looking to negotiate some type of peace arrangements as we are. Mead coup attempts in Venezuela row Khanna honorable exception. And a few others will get to that. And more Trump's going to delay his state of the union address more relaxing next Tuesday for those of us this studio Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado. He saying he'll vote on a democratic deal to open the government furloughed workers are staging sit ins outside of senator's offices and twelve have been arrested. Where's the arrest warrant for Mitch McConnell who could end this at any time he wanted and where are the nationwide strikes we need over this and actually whole lot of other things. Schiff Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters looking to do a joint investigation into Deutsche Bank, which is important Bank. Keep track of for all Trump related irregularities. Well, maybe not all Jesus Christ. I don't want to think about all Trump related regularities, the Pacific standard his reporting that Trump is set to cancel a fifty year old environmental law. And air traffic control union leaders warn of unprecedented safety risks as the shutdown kin ten us strike now strike now all that and much much more on the majority report folks, I don't know what that problem was. I think we're good to go now. But we're going to have a shortened opening block, though, actually, we can't play this clip because I told I told Bryant Immunex for five minutes. So actually, I guess for only twelve sixteen sometimes enlightenment comes from unlikely. Sources a lot of people beef with Chris Cuomo. I actually think Chris Cuomo for what it's worth is not. I mean, this isn't network that has Jake tapper who is consistently outdoing himself in wack, and hold, you know, cavalcade of of well, guess that. I'm not particularly impressed by. But here is Chris Cuomo of all people. I he's parlaying some right wing asshole. I don't even was the guy's name. We was more of a test. Steve cortez. I don't even know this guy. They're talking about the border. And of course, completely artificial fake crisis to build on people's racial, paranoia noise. It signifies absolutely nothing other than the suffering created by this policy. Cuomo is parlaying that and I he goes in the right in a in a brilliant direction was like, actually, I can tell you the national emergency. We could deal with poverty, boom. Then that of course sends off the Pavlovian response and all these idiots which has put through silty poverty, you about that as well. And then Chris Cuomo as a shocked Paul Begala looks on has a more effective answer on Venezuela. Then like over ninety percent of professional Democrats. I see in media. Let's check this out. Never of fall. It will fall that doesn't mean. Crime will be eliminated. It will fall. And look here's the thing about illegal alien crime there. You're right. We have a lot of crime in the United States. And there's ways we can and should address that but a legal alien crime is one hundred percent percents preventable in every single case. We just had over the weekend. The arrest of an illegal alien who killed an elderly eighty year old couple in Nevada. I mean, this is very real world pain that these people have to deal with one of the tools to fight that kind of illegality and that kind of pain is a border oil plots Russia's no other type of crime prevention in this country. The idea that something's one hundred percent per what? One hundred percent preventable poverty, you know. It's one hundred percent preventable. Hunger in the richest country in the world. How urgency like that house poverty, though, you get one hundred percent preventable cause you going to say socialism Konami up because take a look at Venezuela van. His willa because because that's a great strategy going there. Right. You starve these congress support pop, then you create environments on the ground where they can blow up. And then you stand back and watch them burn. What are we going to do there? Now. What are we going to do in the triangle? If he cut say to them come on Steve look blaming blaming the United States for the problems of central Central American doing that show. And I'm saying even funding will only make it worse. I what I love about that clip is there's nothing really analysis. I need to do around it. He nailed all of it. The only thing I would add is I do blame US foreign policy for great deal problems in Latin America, folks, big corporations are getting rich by selling your data and congress has completely failed to save net neutrality or protect online pry or protect your privacy online. Now internet providers and mobile carriers like Comcast and Verizon are free to restrict websites. Spy on your online activity were sell your browsing history to advertisers. 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No way changes your experience, but just protects you somewhat from this stalker economy of Silicon Valley to take back your internet privacy today and find out how you can get three months free. Go to express VPN dot com slash majority. That's E X P R E S S V P N dot com slash majority for three months free with a one. Year package. Visit express VPN dot com slash majority. To learn more. We'll be right back with Brian Maher. From my backyard where I am smoking risk answer. I meets. Meets beats here. Jesus christ. When you play the sounds Rops during the break. It's like there's no escape can I have one minute of my life before I go on air, or I talked to my friend Brian mirror or I don't have to be reminded that Mark Zuckerberg exists. Matt Jesus Christ. It doesn't stop it. Never stops. Joining us now is Prien MIR. He is the co editor of Brazil wire, you can also find his work at tell a sore and any other reputable outlet dealing with Latin America, Brian. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. So Brian we've been talking for a long time on both majority report and the Michael Brown show. People can see you in a variety of outlets, both telling the actual trajectory, at least the modern dejected of how we got where we are in Brazil today, which obviously has ramifications for what's happening right now in Venezuela with the attempted coup and across really I would say, you know, kind of east west and east west north south politics, and I want you to actually do that again for us briefly. Just reset could you get us to really the the, you know, basically, the rise and successes of Leuila and the Workers Party and Dilma and the imprisonment of Lou LA and how these forces from US foreign policy makers, Wall Street Sergio Moro converge. To bring a current. And it looks like faltering fascist government into power in Brazil. Okay. Well in honor of the failed coup attempt underway in Venezuela right now. I will use the troll Eum as than there. The threat in this version of the story. Okay. So basically. You know, there's a dictatorship in Brazil until nineteen eighty five despite the trolling interests being behind the dictatorship, the military, never privatize resistant petroleum company then around two thousand six after Lula had been in power for a couple of years. Brazil discovered the world's lar- some of the world's largest offshore the Trillium reserves and announced that it's state petroleum company. Had throw Bryce had developed very cheap technology, an officiant technology for extracting deep water offshore petroleum reserves. Right at this point, we know from Edward Snowden. Could you hear the thunder? That's going on. It's pouring out. You're definitely been. Here's a Sunder. This is the it. It adds prophetic. Residents of your. Yeah. This is good. It's like profits on save on that. There's. Dark clouds hanging over South American democracy today. Right. Do not light little. Yeah. Yeah. So there we go on. All right. So so basically this point we know that the the NSA started spying on Petra Bryce petroleum company. Suddenly Brazil was positioned to be transformed into one of the world's leading petroleum producers. Okay. Ramifications because as we know as we can see about what's going on in Venezuela right now when a country gets too much patrolling the United States starts getting very interested. And so we know through leaked State Department cables from two thousand nine that the US government started engaging in a partnership to ostensibly to fight corruption in Brazil with the with the local public prosecutor's office in the city of credit Tiba southern Brazil led by a man named Sergio mortal. So this led to this huge anti-corruption investigation called lava shot door operation car wash in English. Alleging that millions of dollars had been embezzled through Petrobras some newspapers calling it the biggest scandal of all times it bled. Into a bunch of other major Brazilian industries. Many of which had big holdings in the United States like J B S meat packing company, which bought SWIFT's a couple years ago. Like, oh, the construction company. There we go again old abreast thunder. Okay. So. Anyway. So they started these investigations not to say that there wasn't corruption. In wasn't a lot of corruption. In fact, the. The oil industry troll industry is one of the five biggest five most corrupt industries in the world. Right. Bye. Bye bye accounts. You know, like it's like the drug industry like the pesticide industry. If you scratch under the surface in any petroleum company, you're gonna find all kinds of corruption. Right. Looking shell for example, in Nigeria bragging about place in cabinet ministers, things like that. So you're not okay. So anyway, despite the fact that they were unable to prove any links between Dilma Rousseff and the corruption Petrobras it was used as an excuse to commit character assassination against in the media, and in the in the US media and the New York Times during the week before the two thousand fourteen reelections are when she ran for reelection two thousand fourteen the New York Times connected her to corruption in Petrolia in Petra like. In seven different moments in articles leading up to the election. John Oliver connected her to corruption respiratory company on his show, you know, and the basically none of that was ever they couldn't ever find any evidence of this. So she was impeached on a budget technicality. She was removed from office on a technicality by congress. That's most of the members of congress had corruption charges open against them for other things anyways, you know, including the head of congress at the time is now in jail for stealing tens of millions of dollars. So she was thrown out then. They started moving against Lula once again constantly driving the idea that he was involved in corruption with petrol petroleum company. In fact, guardian on the day Lula was arrested lied about this and said that. His corruption. Charges were connected to forty nine million dollars or something of embezzlement in Petrobras corrupts Petrobras Trump company, which Sergio more himself set in the sentence was absolutely not the case they couldn't find any evidence of this. So you see in this ongoing process in which the removed democratically elected leader on a budget technicality that was legalized the week after she left office and then arrested the leading candidates in the two thousand eighteen presents elections after spending years publicly associated him with corruption in petroleum in the petroleum industry. We didn't exist. We get to this point where the far right wing government of gerbil snow was able to take power. And he appointed the man who was the prosecutor and the judge in the charges against Lula s his Justice minister. Or in other words, the same man who removed Lula from the elections when he was leading with double the popularity of any other contender is got a presence in return for that. You know, now, he's working to protect Wilson son against corruption charges some yet. So I I just into be clear when you said legalize it a week after what just just to spell it out for second the budget technicality into clear, we should go. Look this up. I mean, literally, they removed Dilma Rousseff for, you know, the essentially the equivalent of if Obama gave like a, you know, some type of budget projection score that you could say oh that was. You know? No, there's actually more in the act department than he saying right like if Republicans removed Obama for a bad CBO scores essentially what we're talking about. And then the maneuver that was technically illegal that the used I guessed they specifically made legal week after the used to for from office. So and I wanna I wanna touch though on this theme of production because it's gonna get us into the genuinely dropping, you know, corruption allegations that are now swirling around the Bolsonaro operation potential stories that connecting them to a cartel gang that assassinated, Mario Elie Franko. But I think, you know, more on a bigger picture there. This use of corruption politics has been the friend of fascism across the globe. Donald Trump ran a generic. Drain the swamp campaign in India, Narendra Modi talked constantly of corruption, and you know. And it spells out a couple of things so one it's the enormous double standards, look if if in Venezuela or Nicaragua, which again, I'm you know, I think we could be intellectually honest. There's problems in these places we still, of course, obviously, oppose US interference. But if there was a left wing government that was perceived of his anti United States and the leading contender was thrown in jail by a guy who then became on spurious charges that could never be spelled out or verified, and then became Justice minister in a left wing government that he put into place because he took a internationally recognized icon and put him into solitary confinement. That would be well, I mean as big as any international stories in the United States, but it would be it would cause quite a huff here. And there be a lot of ficials sounding statements from you know, the State Department and so on right? So there's that obvious contradiction. Then there's the fact that these governments, and we're gonna get into Bolsonaro in the second had. Their own, you know, just draw dropping corruption allegations. And then there's the bigger context of how are we even defining corruption? Anyways, I mean, okay. You discover kickbacks an oil company as you said, I mean, you'll discover that anywhere that there's an oil business may be the least of which in Norway. Maybe I mean, right. But what is Bolsonaro appointing a set of ministers that are gonna privatize the country and sell it off to Wall Street and Canadian logging firms like that's not corruption. Anyways. I just want to, you know, take it in any direction you want to go in. But I just think it's very important that these generic terms like corruption that are thrown around and are always leverage in the modern context by the far, right? Be really interrogated because people constantly, oh, we'll corruptions bad. You know, and we got to be really clear about what the hell were exactly talking about here. Yeah. I feel like corruption has become mind stopping cliche right away that the media use you hear the word than your mind stops functioning. He was corrupt. Brian. Brian. No reconnecting. Hey, brian. Are you there? Yeah. Hey, sorry, man, really rains in some really rains. No worries. I'm I'm glad you're back. You were just let's take it from where you were. We have about another ten minutes, you're saying corruption as a thought stopping cliche, please go from there. It's a mind stopping crochet. I feel like basically since the United States doesn't have any more moral authority on human rights issues. Even though it still tries to use them as excuses for justified inventions. It has it has use other justifications takedown governments that don't completely suck up. All of their demands. Corruption is in easy thing to accuse people of Mussalini left accuse leftists of incorrupt. It's a constant theme. It was use corruption was a theme used to try and take down the left in Brazil leading up to the nineteen sixty four military coup. So that that's why I think it's used so much. But I think you have to look at what's really going on when these charges come about in the way that the media's Houston because in the case of Lula. There's there's never any material evidence presented against him in a couldn't even create a formal charge. He was. He was charged with undetermined acts of corruption based on one plea bargain. Testimony from a man who had already been jailed and received huge reduction of his sentence and transfer the house arrests partial retention of millions of dollars and assets for basically delivering the script that Sergia. More Yousef with them in jail. And then you compare that to the charges against Shire. Bolsonaro son will let spell those out. What are the charges against Zayed tire Bolsonaro son, and what has been happening in terms of revelations? We already know that JR Bolsonaro is a, you know, a far right bigoted on a crash at client of US interests. But in the past couple of weeks, it's been just the speed at which some of these incredibly serious corruption allegations, particularly around son of come out spell those out for us. What's happening? And then of course, how is this? Great crusader against corruption. Sergio Moro who created Lula's political prisoner. And now serves in this government. What's he have to say about all this? I'm assuming he's resigning in protests. Right. Of course, not. But okay. So in Rio de Janeiro, historically, large swaths of the city have been controlled by organized crime groups by drug gangs in the early two thousands groups of off duty retired or former police officers got together to try and drive the drug dealers out of one fella on the west side of the city called he'll pay this. And it's what started out of kind of like noble goal of making the neighborhoods safer and stuff quickly turned into this kind of extortion gang that operates on the same principles like the, mafia. They charge protection money from local businesses, and they recount, very brutal Justice. In their neighborhood, which is very similar kind of rhetoric. Snower used to get elected, which is that they kill the thieves. You know, they kill, rapists. And. They shoot people for smoking marijuana things like that. And and so basically, the leader of this. They're paramilitary militias basically spread to other neighborhoods around review Janeiro now. But the first one is this one from readjust Pedro's. And so the civil police just conducted the civil police anti organized crime that just conducted a raid and arrest of the bunch of their meters. And as it turns out, the biggest leader is captain former captain from the military special forces who has been honored to times in the city council by floppy Ables Naro is received like honorary awards in the city CAL's Geijer Bolsonaro, son, Jarboe son, who was just elected Senator. So then it's subsequently come out that this militia leaders, mother and wife working as employees of floppy -able scenario, and there's another -nother. Another employee flushable snarls, supposedly his drive who's been busted in this huge paper trail of making dozens of illicit deposits into flushable snows- Bank account at one point he gave twenty five thousand is the Giro snarls wife, and so there's now this whole paper trail of what appears to be money laundering activities going on. And it's come out that the this militia leaders wife, and and girlfriend have been working for flushable scenario without actually having to show up to work and kicking back like ninety percent salaries every month to the driver who then transferred into flabby Bank accounts, along with other, phantom employees. It's come out that flammable Sner had a fulltime job in Brasilia working in the cabinet of his father. When his father was congressman at the same time that he was doing an internship. At university in Rio de Janeiro that he had to show up for work at so he was supposedly working at two places in the same time. And now, okay, it's also come out that there were these two twin brother military police officers who were arrested for being militia members a month and a half ago. Their sister is the treasurer for Jibal snarls political party in Rio de Janeiro, the PSL the political party Tressler on the books as an employee of floppy -able snarl as a member of his cabinet until like two months ago when these investigations so as this thickens as this plus thickens, it's it's come out, but this militia organization called the creek daughter creamy from here papers is the number one suspect in the Molly Franck were Cecil nation city council when woman moderately Frankel who was brutally assassinated last year for apparently. One of the things that she was doing before she was assassinated was heavily criticizing and trying to get investigations underway into the connection between the military police in these militias. Okay. So enjoyable was the only candidate for president who did not make a public statement on Molly Franco's death. And so meanwhile, as this is all going on Sergio mortar was hailed as this impartial. Non fluid glance corruption crusader in the New York Times all the other hem in the media north as he was arrested in Lula for nothing. He's now taking all kinds of legal measures to protect Flavio Bill snarl from prosecution, including firing the guy who announced all of the all of the evidence had been found on these illegal Bank transfers and money laundering was fired from his office and replaced with any is also saying this office. It's. It's like an office of auditing from the federal government of petitions stuff CO af aphids called anyway. But now he's saying they're not allowed to communicate any of their information to the press, which is ironic because such a moral was busted, either legally wiretapping Lula Dilma Rousseff in leaking that to the press when he was going out after going after them, and he got a slap on the wrist for the from the supreme court for that. So his whole modus up around is leaking information on allegations rumors and hearsay against the PT party. But now he's blocked his own government from doing it against the bowl snarl family. Right. And also in the end, I think is a mile. Sue is correct. That as Bolsonaro is obviously announced this wave of us therapy measures in keeping with his Wall Street, aligned advisers that one area where there's a pay increases for the judiciary that was of. Course, so helpful in blocking the democratic process and jailing Lula. Well, one of the first things that happened after the coup was that timbre give big race to the judiciary. But now yet, basically, there's it's very confusing because they're using Trump style cognitive distance Siab's techniques or the one member of the government will announce some huge change everyone in the media starts talking about another week later. Someone else says no it's not really gonna happen. The guy was wrong. You know? So, but the the economics minister both now is former is university of Chicago trains, super liberal, economists who lived in Chile during the dictatorship was friends with a bunch of people internal Shays in their circle, and he's trying to do all kinds of crazy austerity reforms, and they're going to they wanna they wanna do Chilean style reform of the retirement system and both Nour's announced he's going to spare the judiciary and the. The military from that. Of course there obviously the ones who created the biggest drain on the retirement system. Right. So even if you were following that really narrow logic. That'd be the place you'd wanna cut are. We only a couple of minutes more. But I do want to touch on. Obviously, there's this attempted coup happening in Venezuela. And again, there's like. The nature of the Venezuelan government is completely secondary conversation when the United States attempts to remove a neighboring government off from power. So you would also just done an interview in Brazil wire. And one of the reason we Brazil wires indispensable for Brazil, and one of the reasons is frankly mean addition to very smart analysis from people, Brian it's also one of the only places in the United States or an English language media where you can just read interviews with people who I mean, look, not only the left in Brazil. But in fact, still one of the maybe organizationally still V most important political party in Brazil, the Workers Party, the PT, and you just did an interview with the head of PT who she had just returned actually from a trip to Venezuela. So is there a way, and of course, Bolsonaro is completely signed on to this Trump CIA? Effort. What is the sort of Pete's? He what what is the Brazilian dynamic left and right in relation to what's happening in Venezuela. Right now. Well, it's very clear, you know, regardless of what I like to compare as whether to like, the NFL CIO because I could look at the NFL CIO and say, oh, look they've done all these problems. They have always done all these stupid things over the years, but you know, in general, I still support them. And I support their the Tani when the self-determination of their base level members to elect whoever they want to fill CIO leadership. Right. I'm not gonna cheat. Terms fell CIO and so- glazing Hoffman was attacked repeatedly by a bunch of reporters from the guardian for going to Madonna's inauguration, you know, and Shabbat and moolah were good, friends and everything so she's especially Tom Phillips. He spent a whole day ridiculing her on Twitter sound Phillips's like the Latin America editor of garden. And so she made a statement to the precious anyone who criticizes my visits to Venezuela doesn't understand. The the concepts of sovereignty and self determination. And so when I interviewed from like, I said, look, I actually don't think a lot of Americans and British people really understand those concepts very well because both countries have such a long imperialist history. Even a lot of progressives. And liberals think that for example, the US should if they see something going wrong in another country should step in and solve human rights issues, or whatever. So so she said she said basically the PT had to go participate in Madrid inauguration because they respect the sovereign the self-determination those of the Venezuelan people Mudra was elected with sixty seven percent of the vote. You know, the opposition the opposition guy who declared himself president didn't even run for office. Because he knew he was gonna lutes. Okay. So. Shabas and Maduro whatever their false were. They did a lot to strengthen the third world left. You know, and the PT is in full solidarity with them at this moment, just as the governance, the governments of China and Russia Turkey and Mexico have all that they refuse to recognize window or whatever as the president Venezuela. So basically, I think that. It's important to know, but all of the labor unions and all of the social movements in South America right now are on the sides of the Madeira administration, there's classified at work. And as I'm saying this. I'm sure they're going to be some people are going on comment and say, no, I'm from Venezuela. You don't know what's going on. They'll never ever it's important to know that the middle class whites from this countries and South America have a long legacy of slavery like resilient. Venezuela are generally they generally act more progressive than they really are when they're in the United States, if they're they're living in the United States, and there's a huge amount of racism. This is very entitled social class the working class and the poor in countries like Venezuela and Brazil, don't speak English English as a sign of being a member of the elite, and we're talking about people who grew up with armies of service. And kitchen mates women, washing their underwear for them and stuff, you know, who are now acting like they care about the fates of the poor people in that country. Just when I start talking about Lula trolled by resilience up in the US, even mention I saw boots Riley is being trolled by Waylon whites yesterday onto the two. So just keep in mind. Keep in mind one of the most stunning, and I know you've obviously win more experienced images of this. But I'll just leave it with this. I saw an image. And I'll admit I mean, I think actually I did do a little bit of coverage of the coup in real time. And and we called it, right? Although I think you know, that time particularly before the coup I had more room for talking about, you know, sort of broader analysis of the dynamics in Brazil, but still recognizing the chiefs of PT in posing the coup. But one of the things that really brought it home for me, just at the outset before even did more research was just a photo of, you know, a light skinned upper middle class family in regalia going to an anti PT protest, and literally like a black woman made walking behind them looking pissed. I was like all right. I think I know what side of this equation I trust. And there's a lot more to be spelled out. And I'm not gonna you know, carry water for anybody. But the basic dynamics are in place, and you know, it is what it is. We have to oppose it all though that being said, Brian, I recognized Lula's president in Brazil. So I reach. Hosted your tweets on my Facebook page yesterday, and the nice hundreds of Brazilians that are shared it. Never thing. Everyone was greatly approved. Awesome. Lula leave Ray, Brian MIR. I appreciate your time as always please everybody, read and contribute to Brazil wire. It's indispensable and follow Brian's work, really all over the place. Now, one of the one of the sort of positive things that have happened over the last several months is now a lot more people. I think reading you desire. Well, thanks for your support with it as well. I'm sure you've contributed to that being, you know, happening. It's my thank you, Brian talk t- soon. All right. All right, folks. We are going to take a very brief bait break and come back with Eva colander. That. So. Welcome back to the majority report. Joining us now is a gallon. She is the former legal adviser to Yugoslav 'as. She's a journalist television host investigative reporter author of confidante of quote, unquote, tyrants, which is a memoir of her political work in Venezuela. How she came to play that role and her meeting with many other people cluding Fidel, Castro Qaddafi and others. Eva. Thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me on the show. So able just I mean to the extent possible where are we right now in and by the way, I mean, I've been calling it an attempted coup would use that same terminology in Venezuela. Yawned and attempted coup. I mean it well it's a coup that still developing its coup in development because there's still no final outcome. You know, it's not a coup. That's been yet sorted. It's not a coup that was decibel. It's still playing out in real time. And there's really no clear endgame at the stage. And I think that goes to show even further the level of improvisation that we're dealing with here with this particular government in the Unites States that of course, has been backing this and encouraging it now for a while. But particularly over the past few weeks as things have developed in in Venezuela that have given way to this as well. Open the doors to it. But it's really the improvisation that that's terrifying. Because we're we have that in the United States. We were seeing were living that daily with with the Trump administration and everything all their policies, and what they're trying to do what he's particularly during the way he operates. And now we're seeing it play out with an incredibly vol. Title dangerous foreign policy issue. And so, you know, and the opposition Venezuela has a history of improvisation. I mean, this is also part of the culture in Venezuela. But they did this into those two when the tried to overthrow go job isn't a coup that was briefly successful in then was defeated by popular uprising of the majority of Suelas and also loyal military forces. But at that time, the opposition done the same thing, they had convinced Washington that they could do it. And so watching him back them in every way possible funneling millions of dollars all the political and diplomatic support. And even military support. They sent in you know, there were ships there there are block Blackhawk helicopter. I mean, they were all in for this. And then at the last minute, they realized oh, man, these these people they're not gonna be able to do it. So the US tried to back out. And he was like, you know, they went forward they failed. So now, we're seeing it once again, although this time the stakes are higher and the situation is. Is different. There's you know at that time. I think it would charge was also more fresh in his role as president and people were just horrified that that was happening in the country. It was you know, outrageous. And but now it's been a prolonged period of crisis in the country. Nncholas Maduro is not Travis he doesn't enjoy the same level of admiration from his supporters. They basically put up with him because he's the guy that China's asked them to elect and so they did. And he's the one the only one so far who shown the leadership to carry forward. You know, the that particular project the boulevard revolution. Even though it's been disastrous under his rule, but at the same time. It's different that the level of morality is low people are suffering severe economic crisis. The number one problem is corruption in his government. He's constantly making promises that he can't keep can't follow through on. Nothing's gotten better. The economy is is really just completely devastated. And so I think there's much more support for change in the country. And when this guy one guy, though, who's completely was a relatively unknown faith of the opposition took on this. Very charismatic stands and doesn't have that same tarnished history. As other opposition leaders do as partic-. Depending in Pascoe's and violence, and you know, just corruption corrupt political parties guys, very young fresh face charismatic making also big promises of of, you know, stability and transition and and reconciliation. So I think there's more openness to hearing him out. But at the same time, we have a change in the region just a few years ago, a majority if countries would never have backed a situation like this. They would never have endorsed any kind of regime change in a neighboring country, and that has potatoes of turned entirely. It's it's really astonishing to see the transformation in Latin America, God just a few years ago was a unified front against foreign intervention. You know, proclaiming their independence and sovereignty and as a regional power unified. And now, of course, it's completely divided on ideological lines. And a majority of countries in South America, come out against Madero and our. Support Bing this coup. And so that combined with with the Trump administration's unwavering and very enthusiastic support that could include some kind of military intervention is what could push this over the edge by just add before concluding this summary of events is that, you know, the major game changer here, of course, is Venezuelan military in this very moment. They're backing Madero, and they would be it would be hard to see them. Cross the line to back can opposite shin that supported by the United States because that would clearly be seen as treasonous, and is not, you know, most of these military they may not support what Medeiros doing, but they certainly support the defense in sovereignty of their nation. So there would have to be different sort of way out that wouldn't be seen as aligning with the United States. And then of course, we've factor in Russia and China's support from Madeira, which creates Venezuela turns Venezuelan to geopolitical battlefield. That's a struggle. Then between the. West and Russia and China over this country with the largest oil reserves on the planet. How the second largest oil reserves on the planet. The largest oil you largest oil reserves in planet. So so, okay, I want to just for a minute deal with the like, the basically the boulevard, I n project and the social formation around it, and I like that you outlined it. And again, I keep saying like, you know, if ever there was a time to be able to hold multiple thoughts in your head at once. It would be now, obviously, right? So, of course, there are failings of nNcholas Maduro, and of this present government, and there's also massive accomplishments of particularly Yugoslavia's, which we have no discussion of in the United States, right? And obviously during an attempted coup the primary responsibility of those of us in the United States is to actively vehemently oppose a coup. And so all of that being said in terms of like the social formation around Madero, you talked about obviously, the popular surge that protect shovels from the Bush two thousand two coup. I've heard. And you know, I talking to you because you're a source I trust, right? There's a lot of sources I I don't even know enough to trust or not trust, frankly. But one of the things I've heard is that unlike in previous efforts, there are poorer parts of Caracas as an example places where the traditional social base of this policy of boulevard in politics have rallied before to defend this project from foreign intervention and domestic oligarchs, but that there's actually like some of those demographics are rising up as well because things have been so bad. And I guess my I have a two part question one. I mean is that true? And Secondly, what is the combination here of internal failings versus just like the relentless US pressure of sanctions and an investment in in opposition as well. What's the kind of fusion of a Nate failings verse? Is ongoing relentless US interference. This is really a type of what you would call low intensity warfare or a symmetric or ferrets been going on for a long time. It that does not discount the role that the government itself is played in their own dysfunctional policies. And they're you know, allowing corruption to basically become a a malignant force within the government. But at the same time, you know, the there's no question. I mean, the particularly the US through their different funding agencies like US aid or national now for democracy, even just directly through State Department, think-tanks Freedom House, others that are used as fronts to channel funds to you know, and even some cases creating NGOs that work to undermine governments that aren't favorable to US agenda that this overtime is a way it just tires. Out the people, you know, it becomes an penetrate. So deeply into civil society that it it's unrecognizable as being something imposed from external, you know, interest. So I mean that is that does play a huge role in what's gone on in the poor neighborhoods, but the same time, I mean, the primary reason that you know, majority of lower income areas support China's in the first place was because of his policies yet. He was a charismatic guy cared about people. But you know, it they wouldn't have supported him for so long put their lives on the line to to defend him for so many years in the face of so much destabilization in, you know, different attempted coups and aggressions against them. If it wasn't for the fact that his policies were servicing, their basic needs. People were were the quality of life improved dramatically under charges. So all of that now has been rolled back under Madero in part because of sanctions. And economic warfare from private enterprises in abroad. But I mean, I have to say no, I mean, I know what's going on there. You know, there's a lot of corruption they've been battling a lot of money out. It's mismanagement, you know. So there there are bad people in place in in in charge of a lot of the finances of the country and they've been stealing money. I mean that just straight out. So that's also a combination of what's been going on. And so yes, this support from the traditional grassroots community basis in Venezuela for the government has dramatically eroded over the past couple years because of the economic crisis primarily because of that because in general people don't care as much if they're president has authoritarian tendencies or not so long as they can eat and earn decent wage, and, you know, pay there for all their expenses. I mean, it comes down to that. Most people are not highly politicized and aren't thinking about that. On an everyday basis. They're thinking about how much money do they have in can they afford everything that they need in their lives? So once that start the table start to turn on that. You know, you think with your stomach that was always something set in Venezuela before charges and afterward is people think I with their stomach if you can't eat, you know, you're you're gonna get angry. So you're going to blame who's in charge who's preventing that you know, you from being able to meet your basic needs in this case, it is Madero. So I mean, I think that that is absolutely true. I mean, I've been talking nonstop to people on the ground in in different areas around the country and last night was a night full of protests bullets. You know, people got killed. There was a lot of commotion in in all over Caracas, particularly and in in the poorer neighborhoods as well in popular sectors. And then at the same time d'oro people call in himself called for his supporters to rally around the presidential palace in protect him. No. Nobody was out there at midnight. It was empty. So that would never have happened during traumas people would have slept out there if they needed to. So I think that's a huge. Oh, we're not seeing kind of support for Madeira. I mean, is that do you think that might change just as United States continues this and there's like an actual threat of military action. Like, those that logic start to shift back of wait, a second, whatever like the same logic that you said that the military officers might have that whatever else we say about him. We can't have a coup here. And incidentally, what position realistically in any way is going to you know, my sense is that the people that oppose Maduro that would be backed by the United States all of the same problems, whether they be corruption or investment, or you know, Partel connections, whatever sure they'll be all of that. And they'll be a complete elimination of the social advances and atonomy that this government has delivered. And let's not kid ourselves. I mean, the the opposition is comprised of political parties primarily that ruled. Before are some kind of hybrid of those that had power before the boulevard revolution extremely corrupt. You know, embezzled billions of dollars out of the country were responsible for the sky rocketing poverty in Venezuela, and the marginalization of majority of Venice Waylon. So I mean that is obviously a concern. But at this stage people feel as though well, we don't you know, if we can get food on our plates than it may not matter who's in power. And so I think it will come down to that. They're certainly a hardcore base of of supporters know east as I would say, they're not necessarily Maddie's does like Madero hard core supporters, but they believe they're following through on on that project, which is really about then as well as sovereignty and a, you know, a project of social Justice, and they would fight to the death. So you know there, and there are people there civilian militias that are trained and armed. I mean, it's not a country. That's defenseless. And you know, they do. Have the backing of Russia. They do have powerful equipment doesn't mean that could come up against the US military in any sense. But they wouldn't go out with you know, like their heads between their knees. I mean, they are a lot who would fight that said, I think that hopefully won't come to that. And there could be some kind of negotiated process out of this situation. But was happening now is completely unprecedented. Violates every concept of international law sovereignty rights to self-determination in essentially, the legislative brand the head of the legislative branch has has declared himself the head of the executive branch is being recognized by you know, powerful for nations, and is somehow is working presently out of the Colombian embassy in Caracas to set up a government. I mean, he has no control over anything in the country doesn't control over institutions isn't of control over the finances. You know, so it doesn't have control over the oil industry. So that it comes. Down to what is the next up here? This is all developing in real time in seems highly improvised. It doesn't seem as though they really have a clear path forward if they think that Medeiros going to just walk out of the presidential palace. I would say I mean, I could be wrong things could change by as it stands right now. I just do not see that happening. I mean, obviously, they try to instigate something for quite some time. Right. I mean than going back, of course, Bush through Bromley twelve at the like low the high-intensity in either the economic warfare GAN's than as well. But specifically with Trump, and that was one of the reasons that you know, that ridiculous. John Oliver commentary in Venezuela that was such nonsense from year to go because he was dismissing the idea that the Venezuelan government was putting forward of US interference literally at the same time that might pump AO when he was head of the CIA was actually publicly saying this. And of course, Trump has said any number of things threatening the door in Venezuela pub. Weekly, and I think on some level. I mean, obviously, there's a bigger history behind this. But I'm like, we I mean, this might be the time to institute instigate this because the government shutdown strategy is totally failing. Right. Like that really is the level of just total nonsense. We're dealing with in terms of Trump in addition to like, the traditional US interests that would you know, an have instigated like over forty something coups in Latin America in the last couple of dozen years. So like if you were back there advising what would like, I mean, I I guess before we get to like your your potential solution space. I mean, do you actually think that it could get as bad as some type of military invasion, and as that specifically have to do with Maduro expelling diplomats and refusing to leave? Well, there could be a standoff that certainly seems like a provocation on the part of the United States to. He refused to obey the I mean that that's international law. That's the, you know, the Vienna convention on diplomatic and consular relations that every country has the right to make that kind of decision. That's a sovereign right at the same time. You know, the US embassy in Caracas the US residents in in Caracas for its diplomats. Those are sovereign territories of the United States. That's how it works. So like Venezuelan forces can't go into those spaces and forcibly removed them. I don't think that they would do that. Anyway, I think it would just be a very volatile standoff. However, if we're if they were to be provoked something to happen. I I see like Granada type situation where the US within say we have to go in and rescue our people. So we're bringing in the marines, you know, and that and that could open the door or they could do it with special forces. I mean that Colombia's right on the other side of Venezuela's border. They have a massive. Of military presence, particularly special forces in Colombia, millet US military bases. So this has been the the US has been preparing for redeem change of menace. Well, now for from the time pretty much the coup failed against job is into dozen to it. It's a state policy. It's not partisan. You know, it's so this is just a combination. I think that as seeing with most of the the Trump administration Trump particularly himself. He's just sloppy with his, you know, agenda. He just blurts it out. I mean, most of them would it kept. It sorta under wraps. This is what we're doing. They've just been open notorious about, you know, we want regime change, you know, what? And he's Trump himself has said now at least three times publicly that that he's considering a military option in Venezuela. So there's really no clear indication of how that would play out except for the fact that it would be extraordinarily dangerous in messy and would probably result. But in a bloodbath. I mean, what else is going to happen? What good come event US intervention anywhere in the world, you know? And then if the Madero if Madero in his inner circle decide to bone bumper down as they're doing so far. I mean, then we're looking at a similar like a an Assad situation like in Syria, and it wouldn't be the first time. Venezuela has already been mapped out by who knows how many military strategists, particularly in the US, but also in Colombia and around the world to divide the country because the oil reserves are in our in certain areas, they're not all over the country. They've mapped it out. They could take it. It's by Brazil. It's by Columbia. You know, they could take control of those areas and carve it out and and into pieces just like is happened in in other countries where they've been similar situations Libya, you know, for example, I mean, where they go in to create a disaster because there's really no plan, and and unexpected things happen that they didn't account for on that could be the case. In minnesota. I do think that if there's not some kind of like pause put on this as soon as possible and some more measured voices involved as we're seeing Ali the UN secretary general's making statements saying this needs to slow down. We need to have dialogue to to prevent disaster minutes while on where hearing it, you know, what we're hearing more in the media are the more sort of Ella coast. The more aggressive oysters like the Trump administration and and secretary general who's like salivating over military intervention Venezuela for regime change. But you know, we need more measured voices. Mexico is playing that role of trying to calm, the situation and encourage dialogue even Spain. Even France macaroni has not endorsed the opposition. He's mulling Vert, you know, dialogue and negotiated. Transition. Are something of the of specifically said, no, we don't rookie those the opposition. If I understand quickly. I think it was. More call to dialogue. Wasn't a a sort of assertive. No. But it was more. You know, we're not going down the path right now. And I think that that that's respectable at this stage. It's not as it's it's not a solid position. But that's because they don't have a fantastic relationship. The moment debate as more right wing government in place that you know. So you know, there's the their countries that are taking a more measured stance. And there are those that are taking Mark recive one. And so we just need to look at the interest behind those countries, the US has a direct interest. They want Venezuela's oil. Venezuela has is a geo-strategic nation. They want control of it again. Like they had before Russia's airy Ron is China's there they want the US wants them out. So they have a very specific and direct interest in in regime, change, and other countries are measured Mexico, you know, even Bolivia that backs Madero, but you know, ever more Dallas just wants peace in the region. I mean, they want. Stability and and the same. I think would go for even China. China didn't come out and say, we back nNcholas Maduro. They said we do not back extort foreign interference in Venezuela's fares. Galler really appreciate your time. As always recommend that everybody who uses Twitter as an example, be following avo. Because this is a main source understanding what goes on we're gonna talk more about this in the second half of the show. But I mean, you know, this is a time. Not to be puritanical about it. But I mean, you know, row Khanna has stepped forward and oppose this. There's been some sort of signal boost for that. I think from Ilana mar Alex Andrea Cossio Cortez. But this is the one that everybody's going to need to get on the map on if they have any kind of claim to any type of left wing leadership because this is a coup and could be I mean. Yeah. Like Grenada except even worse because of just the stakes right? Not that great. It wasn't horrible in of itself. A I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much always answer on show. Appreciate it are a focus. So become a member of the majority report today, you get content like that. A man, I don't even know how cable news is covering it. Independent on bought on bossed less pennies a day. Click the become a member link and join and also subscribe to the show on YouTube. If you haven't already all the other ways, we cover this sort of thing in depth on the Michael brook show and a lot of the history and the context around this as well Zampa, we just did an illicit history of chevette and the boulevard and revolution with a goal injure for patrons of the Michael brook show. Become a patron of today, patriot dot com DNB s and also go check out the patriot the YouTube channel for the Michael brook show overlapping, but distinct content there, and we'll give you flavor of the show. Good running threat on the tracksuits. I'm wearing as well. And there's some tickets left legit, not many at this point. But some to our. I live show bell house February first snag them while you can and become a patron patriot dot com slash him. Bs jamie. What it do? I'm sorry. Matt Jones, Mike so this week on the anti Fatah. We have the second ever edition of history as a weapon with Sean Kaby and special guests Matt Kristen from Chapo trap house. They talk they get a little bit personal. Actually, they talk about why both of their brands have been broken by history and their personal connections to that. Also, they answer the question. Why of all advanced capitalist countries is the United States unique in its historical failure to form a bona fide labor socialist party, that's Ganic tied to the union labor movement as an institutionalised political expression of working class interests Soames, look, Matt Crispin might be an American exceptionalism. Well, Marica is exceptional in maybe some bad ways. Yeah. That's true. But actually, it turns out that America was a head of clove on that on like this this division between the labor movement and any kind of left political party, right because Europe for a while had them, and then they those parties all turned neoliberal at the end of the day like Labour's trying to realign right now. But it's sort of interesting that the US got there first, and then the other countries to kind of around about journey, so they they go back and forth about about that about history. They both know a lot about history PS. I'm I just listened to it. And I learned a lot actually awesome met. Literary hangover. We did the house of the seven Gables by Nathaniel Hawthorne. A very weird story about how sort of Puritans can lived on through basically inheritance into the eighteenth century beautiful. All right, folks. We will see you on the fun half. What was that? We'll do this. We're gonna do this song. Again. This is Sam cedar remix. So just it'll be a shorter into the fun half. But people like this instead, all right, okay. From a nine one nine Oregon news. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Let's just do this exercise. Super sick tall super sick. Right. You don't need to mean. Security. You don't need to means. Care. Tax wealthy people. That's simply not enough. 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