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"margie ker" Discussed on Quentin Tarantino's Feature Presentation

Quentin Tarantino's Feature Presentation

14:27 min | 2 years ago

"margie ker" Discussed on Quentin Tarantino's Feature Presentation

"And get Spooky and we are back and as I'm thinking over our conversation with fear expert Margie Ker it seems that the pleasure era of fear only works when you know the deep down you're safe that all the bad stuff is on the screen but every so often fear goes too far and horror movies are accused of inspiring real life violence to that human empathy that makes us care about the victims is it sometimes makes us empathize with the villain to some they look at the killer at their lack of fear as a personal dare it. Could they be capable of killing as well. I don't believe that every person who loves Michael Myers is twisted. I don't believe most of them are by far but we do have to talk about why some critics are afraid of horror movies afraid of why we like them and afraid of what someone who takes them too far might do who can movies inspire people to kill. Yes the give shape to the scripting so it's it's a cocktail of of things it's never one thing you might recognize the Voice of Peter Vronsky the author of sons of Cain History of serial killers from the Stone Age to the present from episode three where we talked about the psychology of Michael Myers as he points out this argument that horrible images inspire horrible crimes is ancient compasses. Everything put magazines pornography fairytales. Even old violent would cuts the Bible has influenced serial killers as much as pornography has so <hes> this kind of condemnation of female sexuality is deeply ingrained of course in the Christian faith as as well historically is. They're all halloween hero fairy tales. Are you aware Halloween starts so it is so you know certainly that's not the solution nor is you know <hes> necessarily taking guns away because serial killers will kill their hands so Franchi doesn't see the point in banning horror films win. The Bible is legal but psychologists Dr Toby from that same episode does agree that when we watch Halloween our minds aren't as innocent as wanting to save laurie strode. I honestly think I think that when we watch these at an unconscious level we identify with the aggressor more often than we would like to admit and when that happens we figuratively and literally see aspects of ourselves projected onto the big screen and I think. Author resonates with some people I mean talk about identifying with the aggressor. John Carpenter literally opened Halloween with pudding US inside Michael Myers his head in that long tracking shot it had rob zombies Halloween young Michael Myers. Is this bullied kid from an abusive home. He's very empathetic up until the moment he begins to kill. We're about to hear a nine one one call from a seventeen year old boy who saw how that Michael Myers could murder without emotion and then he decided to find out if he could do that to the call is real and if you'd rather not here it it is absolutely okay just to skip ahead a couple of minutes Parker County now one. Where's your emergency my house okay? What's the emergency <hes> I just killed my mom and my sister right and I just killed my mom and my sister? She just killed your mother and your sister. How did you do that with a gun after watching the Rob Zombie remake of Halloween three times this is what he wrote in his confession quote? I was amazed as at how at ease the boy was during the murders and how little remorse he had afterward. I was thinking to myself it would be the same for me when I kill someone so when the boy finished watching the movie again he put the Halloween D._v._d.. Back in the case and he threw it in the trash cans so that people you wouldn't find out that it influenced him. I thought of the quick you know I I didn't want them to anything that's why you use the gun but as it is like everything went wrong so this whole call which is hard to listen to and really impressive as the nine one one operator stays on the line keeping the boy calm away from the gun until the cops come it sounds like someone emerging from a trance like he'd gone so deep into the movie screen that it didn't really think death was real. I don't mean to sound like a once or anything but you know this is wow I've never like done anything violent in my whole life you know you don't sound like a violent person. No you don't but his mom and kid sister were dead and he's now in prison in that confession he also wrote about snapping back from fiction into reality he said I know now though that I'm done with killing it's it's the most dreadful and terrifying thing I will ever experience in what happened last night will haunt me forever but the people who argue that scary movies 'cause crimes have one more case to point to around ten million people caught the Halloween remaking theaters and millions aliens more solid at home. Only one kid picked up a gun and blamed it on Michael Myers but we are living in a time of fear inside the theatre and out in the world would i. I met John here in my town of L.. A. A grocery store manager had just been killed that weakened in a shootout so inbetween talking about the movie and Bowling Green and everything else we were both so rattled that we couldn't help talk about that too. GotTa fix this somehow no and your generation's GonNa do it buying screwed up. We fucked up. Pardon me we did. Everything seems motivated by this fear this giant fear. It's one of the two scary stories that we we can tell one is the evil is inside or the evil is outside right wing. Evil Bill is always outside. It's them different color skin different way. They talk is different. Now that goes way back to US tribal were sitting around the Campfire and we've just come out of the trees and the <hes> wish doctor says I'll tell you where evil is. It's out there in the woods in the darkness. It's the next tribe and they're gonNA come in here and things will be impure. They'll take you <music> over. That's right wing left wing. He'll same situation were sitting around the campfire. which doctor gets up and says I'll tell you where evil is? It's right in here and he points to his heart. It's an each of us. We have the capability to commit evil. The good man chooses not to and fights against those impulses the good fight back against fear future neighbor like you WanNa be treated read the whole secret. I don't WanNa be hateful person. I don't let out maybe you to feel like you've spent most of your life like Laurie strode innocent oblivious until suddenly the news has turned into screaming nightmare. I am really interested to see how her changes in the upcoming years because we have as a society Ben Through this this just slow burn of crisis of not knowing who to trust and I think that there is a crisis of fear people want to reclaim their fear. That's what I talked to a lot of my students about reclaiming their fears so that they they know what to truly be afraid of an have more confidence in themselves to know that they are capable and competent and that while the world might be scary <hes> they'll be. They'll be okay reclaiming our fear. That's something that's been on my mind a lot. Although not until Margie said those words that I have the right phrase in my head turning that fear into action knowing that we can survive this horror films are minus of that too you know we're ancestors of the humans who had the wit to strategically kind of avoid danger but also the bravery really the courage to to seek out to to go and explore to be curious but also have the threat response that would allow us to get away and survive to to fight another day wait. That sounds like you're saying that we as humans are all the final girl yes yes we really are. <hes> and it's it's something that has kept us alive. We really are capable of so much and watching scary. Movies is a is a nice way to be reminded of that horror movies do inspire us about an for good ed and we inspire them for example right now. I've seen a lot of the upcoming movies focus more on the revenge horror and I think that that really is reflecting where we are right now with movements like black lives matter and time's up <hes> me too all of that is now being translated through our horror movies into something that we can have a sense of feeling like we we have a sense of control over it feeling like we have a cathartic way to deal with Ed Translating Current Day concerns into monsters that we can defeat on screen in fact right now you wherever you are you are joining me in participating in something beautifully human. Are you know obsessive reading or listening to podcasts and stories and you know all of these different ways to to understand mass murderers and killers is really our attempt to try and understand something so unimaginable and it is through engaging with things that are repulsive or were violent that we are reminded of our humanity that we're reminded of love of compassion and it's kind of a paradox but I think it makes a lot of sense that we can be reminded of our own humanity through the inhumane actions of others and takes over that empathy and extended to Laurie strode even screaming at her through the screen. We do see a lot of characters doing the exact opposite of what we think they should be doing so they're running up the stairs when they should be running out the front door and part of that is because when we are truly terrified all of our resources are focused on our bodies so we're not thinking rationally. We're not thinking strategically it. Just is kind of total bring shutdown <hes> so that we can <hes> focus on getting away but unfortunately we do see that that is sometimes you tile. I mean that sounds like a defense of Jamie Lee throwing the knife away after she stabs Michael Myers twice yes yes I know yeah it's really we hope to to think that we would make better decisions and I think that you know watching scary movies and practicing being scared can maybe contribute to better responses in the moment which also to be fair. You're one of the reasons we yell at Lori for throwing away the knife when she's downstairs on the couch is not actually her fault. It is Dean and John's fault. When Jamie Lee played that scene she was reacting to the fact that the knife is covered in blood up close? The knife was super gross and she she thought that the audience would understand her revulsion but Dina John kept the scene so dark and shadowy and so far away that.

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"margie ker" Discussed on Halloween Unmasked

Halloween Unmasked

11:49 min | 2 years ago

"margie ker" Discussed on Halloween Unmasked

"Podcast promo code on messed and get spooky. And we are back, and as I'm thinking over our conversation with fear expert Margie ker, it seems that the pleasure of fear only works when you know the Tepe down, you're safe that all the bad stuff is on the screen, but every so often fear goes too far and horror movies are accused of inspiring real life violence to that human empathy that makes us care about the victims. It sometimes makes us empathize with the villain to some. They look at the killer at their lack of fear as a personal dare. Could they be capable of killing as well? I don't believe that every person who loves Michael Myers is twisted. I don't believe most of them are by far, but we do have to talk about why some critics are afraid of horror, movies, afraid of why we like them and afraid of what someone who takes them too far might do, who can movies inspire people to kill. Yes, the give shape tune the scripting so it's a cocktail of things. It's never one thing. You might recognize the voice of Peter Vronsky the author of sons of Cain history of serial killers from the stone age to the present from episode three, where we talked about the psychology of Michael Myers as he points out this argument that horrible images inspire, horrible crimes is ancient in compasses everything. Put magazines, pornography, fairytales, even old violent would cuts. The bible has influenced serial killers as much as pornography has. So this kind of condemnation of female sexuality is deeply in green, of course, in in the Christian faith as as well. Historically is they're all Halloween. If you know fairy tales or you aware Halloween starts. So as so, you know, certainly that's not the solution, nor is, you know, necessarily taking guns away because serial killers will kill with their hands. So Franchi doesn't see the point in banning horror films win the bible is. Legal, but psychologist, Dr. Toby from that same episode does agree that when we watch Halloween, our minds aren't as innocent as wanting to save Laurie strode. I honestly think that when we watch these at an unconscious level, we identify with the aggressor more often than we would like to admit. And when that happens, we figuratively and literally see aspects of ourselves projected onto the big screen. And I think that resonates with some people. I mean, talk about identifying with the aggressor, John carpenter, literally opened Halloween with putting us inside Michael Myers his head in that long tracking shot and it rob zombie, Halloween young, Michael Myers is this bullied kid from an abusive home. He's very empathetic up until the moment he begins to kill. We're about to hear a nine one one call from a seventeen year old boy who saw how that Michael Myers could murder without emotion, and then he decided to find out if he could do that to the call is real and if you'd rather not hear it is absolutely. Okay. Just to skip ahead a couple minutes Parker county. Now we're one, where's your emergency. My house. Okay. What's the emergency. I just killed my mom and my sister, right? I just killed my mom and my sister just killed your mother and your sister. How did you do that with a gun after watching the rob zombie remake of Halloween, three times, this is what he wrote in his confession quote, I was amazed at how at ease the boy was during the murders and how little remorse he had afterward. I was thinking to myself, it would be the same for me when I kill someone. So when the boy finished watching the movie again, he put the Halloween DVD back in the case and he threw it in the trash cans that people wouldn't find out that it influenced him. I thought the quick, you know. I, I didn't want them to feel anything. That's why use the gun. But as it is like everything went wrong, this whole call which is hard to listen to and really impressive as the nine one one operator stays on the line, keeping the boy calm away from the gun until the cops come. It sounds like someone emerging from a trance like he'd gone so deep into the movie screen that it didn't really think death was real. I don't mean to sound like a once or anything, but you know, this is. Wow. I've never done anything violent in my whole life. You know you don't sound like a violent person. No, you don't. But his mom and kid sister were dead and he's now in prison. In that confession, he also wrote about snapping back from fiction into reality. He said, I know now though that I'm done with killing, it's the most dreadful and terrifying thing I will ever experience in what happened. Last night will haunt me forever, but the people who argue that scary, movies. 'cause crimes have one more case to point to around ten million people caught the Halloween remaking dealers and millions more solid at home. Only one kid picked up a gun and blamed it on Michael Myers, but we are living in a time of fear inside the theater and out in the world. Would I I met John here in my town of l. a grocery store manager had just been killed that we can in a shootout. And so in between talking about the movie and bowling green and everything else, we were both so rattled that we couldn't help talk about that too. We gotta fix this somehow. No, and your generation's gonna do it buying screwed up. We fucked it up. Pardon me? We did. Everything seems motivated by this fear. This giant fear. It's one of the two scary stories that we, we can tell. One is the evil is inside or the evil is outside right wing. Evil is always outside. It's them different color skin different way they talk is different. Now that goes way back to us tribal. We're sitting around the campfire and we've just come out of the trees. And the wish doctor says, I'll tell you where evil is it's out there in the woods in the darkness. It's the next tribe. And they're gonna come in here and things will be impure and they'll take you over. That's right. Wing left wing. He'll same situation were sitting around the campfire which doctor gets up and says, I'll tell you where evil is. It's right in here and he points to his heart. It's an each of us. We have the capability to commit evil. The good man shoes is not to and fights against those impulses. The good fight back against fair through your neighbor. Like you wanna be treated that that's a whole Krit. I don't wanna be hateful person. I don't let out maybe you to feel like you've spent most of your life like Laurie strode, innocent oblivious until suddenly the news has turned into a screaming nightmare. I really interested to see how changes in the upcoming years because we have as society Ben through this, this just slow burn of crisis of not knowing who to trust. And I think that there is a a crisis of fear. People want to reclaim their fear. That's what I talked to. A lot of my students about reclaiming their fears so that they, they know what to to truly be afraid of an have more confidence in themselves to know that they are capable and competent and that while the world might be scary. Philby they'll be okay, reclaiming our fear that something that's been on my mind a lot, although not until Margie said those words that I have the right phrase in my head, turning that fear into action, knowing that we can survive this, horror films are minus of that too. You know, we're ancestors of the humans who had the wit to strategically kind of a void danger, but also the bravery, really the courage to to seek out to to go and explore to be curious. But also, you know, have the this threat response that would allow us to get away and survive to to fight another day. Wait, that sounds like you're saying that we as humans are all the final girl. Yes, yes, we really are. And it's it's something that has kept us alive. We really are capable of of so much and watching scary movies. Is a nice way to be reminded of that horror movies do inspire us for about an for good, and we inspire them. For example, right now I've seen a lot of the upcoming movies focus more on the revenge horror. And I think that that really is reflecting where we are right now with movements like black lives matter and time's up me to all of that is now being translated through our horror movies into something that we can have a sense of feeling like we have a sense of control over it feeling like we have a cathartic way to deal with it translating current day concerns into monsters that we can defeat onscreen. In fact right now you wherever you are, you are joining me in participating in something beautifully human are, you know, obsessive reading or listening to podcasts and stories, and all of these different ways to to understand mass murderers and killers is really are tempt to try and understand something so unimaginable and it is. Through engaging with things that are repulsive or where violence that we are reminded of our humanity that we're reminded of love of compassion and it's kind of a paradox. But I think it makes a lot of sense that we can be reminded of our own humanity through the inhumane actions of of others and takes over that empathy and extended to Laurie strode. Even when we're screaming at her through the screen, we do see a lot of characters doing the exact opposite of what we think they should be doing. So they're running up the stairs when they should be running out the front door. And part of that is because when we are truly terrified, all of our resources are focused on our bodies. So we're not thinking rationally we're not thinking strategically. It just is kind of total bring shutdown so that we can focus on getting away. But unfortunately, we do see that that is sometimes utilized. That sounds like a defense of Jamie Lee throwing. The knife away after she stabs, Michael Myers twice, yes. Yes, I know, yeah, it's really, you know, we we hope to to think that we would make better decisions. And I think that you know, watching scary movies and practicing being scared, can maybe contribute to better responses in the moment which also to fair one of the reasons we yell at Lori for throwing away the knife when she's downstairs on the couch is not actually her fault. It is dean and John's fault. When Jamie Lee played that scene, she was reacting to the fact that the knife is covered in blood up close. The knife was super gross, and she thought that the audience would understand her revulsion. But Dana, John kept the scene so dark and shadowy. And so far away that we can't really see the blood or the expression on her face that is their bad, not hers. But the second time she throws away the knife come on still unless we've been chased by a guy with a knife who are we to judge actually meet Joe Scott tall bearded a strong. Looking guy who on the scariest night of his life, a night with a really was a guy with a knife thought of Laurie strode. At this year's Comecon he stood up and told his story.

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