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Episode 31 - Marcus Willis

The Functional Tennis Podcast

31:14 min | 1 year ago

Episode 31 - Marcus Willis

"Hi Ah Marcus Willis. And you're listening to the functional tennis focused and welcome to episode thirty one of the functional. Tennis podcast this week. We speak with a man who ignited a nation back in two thousand sixteen after an impressive run true prequel. These qualities win the ran and then gone on to face. Roger Federer on Center Court at Wimbledon. It's Marcus Willis. Mark tells us all about that famous. Wimbledon Ron has been top junior challenges injuries oaths and Danny's had throughout his career on also future plans to really interest episode on Great. Speak to tennis player. Who so down to Eric as usual before we get started. If you're new to the PODCAST PLEASE. Hit subscribe or share it with anybody who you tink may love the podcast on also some that we have no before is shame. Sleep plug are much in practice. Journals we have a much journal that helps players prepare for matches out structure a game plan and also helps evaluate matches after and we also have one for practice sessions. Which help you plan practice sessions on evaluate afterwards and also get input from your coaches on. You can bring learnings from the Macho into the practice and vice versa on it's a great ecosystem and we've seen great results from people all over the world check out. Our website are functional tennis dot Com. If you WANNA know more about the journals or shoot me a message. I'm always happy to talk about it. Finally a big shot at your podcast. Sponsors head okay. Let's hear Marxist Story High Marcus. Welcome to the functional tennis podcast. I how you doing very good. Thanks how are you not safe idea? I don't see about thank you. Tell me what you up to I'm just started training again. As of a couple of weeks ago Stop laying of had a timeout through through injuries Kits stuff that really kid kid number two arrived did they can't number to arrive. Eighty nine months ago so yeah gravy. Lucky the sleep department suspect a great. I hope you have been tracking your sleep. I haven't No you're you're in your back healthy again and ready to go. Yeah I mean I'm paying paying for it a bit of everything that they plan back and more recently. I've had shoulder problems. It's not perfect still yet. But I've got a month or so to sort of think. Crato YOU'RE GONNA go full time. Then that's the plan. That's the plan. Focus on mainly doubles that if I have to single monitoring that as mentioned just before we jumped on hair met soundbite yesterday on to you know true the tour on last Marcus and he goes. Oh we'll tell you about the story about the time we played in the final on. You guys ended up warm enough room together because selves to save money is warmed up together. You probably had dinner together. Yeah together as well. Yes Oh you play together Danny stopped and that was it and I was like Sam. Who would want to they want to carry on with the story now? That was a good finals outside. It was four and six four or something Six four six. Did you use Sam? Well Yeah I mean. We see English. Speaking and we played very similar tournament so saw the law On the tool and Yeah he's Nice Chap so he just world in the same boat thing when you're playing futures and stuff it's it's it's okay to friends and stuff had dinner together. He and soon as you stop on the Mexico. Try and win. And that's it for the next chairman. I it should be that simple short but Yeah no it's it's it's strange you know. We're having been in the plate at the next day love. It's great. It's better than sitting sitting in room service starring hotel walls and I guess true and Sam asked the question. Why don't you ask them like? Why didn't you concentrate on doubles? But it looks like you're doing that now. Yeah exactly I mean I still love. Singles bought the end of the day. You go to try and make some make some money in it. It's going to be very hot but my game suits doubles especially now a lot more. I probably should have done earlier. The stuff inside of me still still still believes the most So there's not wrong. I still to ask way lower level but yet I've seen like some senior senior play Assam's told me on. Your game is made for Nobles on. You're probably young right now for the devils game anyway. You're still under attorney. I've got some time if I can stay healthy improve as well. It's it's not easy to get that fought with the right steps. And and Yeah. We got some very good coaches available to us then. Yeah I think it's very possible for me to make a living out Phil are you didn't under the Al. Ta Or Rangel System. At the moment. I haven't had Haussa since I was seventeen. Belief also say that that a bonus game which helps a lot plaza that last year or soon not stop so no. I'm not quite sure what the system is there. But it's a I'm doing it my way cray. Look there's no right or wrong here. Obviously you can do to way to get a bit of help but makes it a bit easier. If you like the coaches it whip it. It seems like a highpoint help when you need it anymore. If you assault double sided and you start getting out so chicken eggs yeah. It's back you when you forty crossed the line. Unfortunately but I I guess I guess the top guys on complaining to what to get the start like I wouldn't rate will just like out there too so many good guys in the UK now too must be seven or eight in the top one hundred now. Is there yeah Louis clause massively through with things no accident when he's coming to the numbers that rely in Boca on the preseason Louisa. A couple of other coaches doing something right. Just do what he tells them. Yeah we had last week's guest Dave Dave O'hare. Yes very well. He worked with Louis all year Ashley. Yeah he was working. He did the full year on and off but he was working with all the English leads on. Tv great years he picked up lows Lewis. Hopefully some say she can transfer it over to the Irish kids. Yeah so following you. So tell me markets you were top junior year. What top fifteen in the world and quite success. How hard is it to go from top junior two worlds onto the senior level yet? It's the hardest thing too do if you've got no help even if you do have help that is when. I did have funding available to me. Sorry I had a coach and stuff like that for for nine months or a year. Yeah comedy prepare for that number fourteen in a finished and there's no prize money everything's free. Everything's free when you're playing the Big Judas hold on it so when you then all of a sudden you've got a few points. I think I'm qualified. I made last Guy Straddle. I had a few points. You have to go abroad to places for yourself and strong compete in faces you. You're familiar with and you didn't get given nice hotels free stuff it so you know you're running running running our big bill pretty much and using the semi's you get six eighty people in a couple of hundred dollars that's what it was but then I it's kind of. Yeah when when are you going to run out of money or you've got to win an awful lot and play the challenges. But when I say awful lot I think they've got I said I can go to a friend of mine. He won seven days in a row. And you still maybe grassland qualifying. Two hundred in the world sees friend into the website. You have to basically not lose and I don't have the money to continue so very very difficult transition on. You're not making money. You Call my money because I was lucky with the private sponsor I won't pharmaceutical sponsor me for a good year and a half two years when I quit. I I'm so I went from no ranking to three twenty one year but I was lucky to sponsor everyone else. You Go French league German League matches that signing if you're a high wolf aren't you get paid a criminal so much I'm not citing Jeremiah. The weekends so you've got to play tournament. Flights the French league and then fly back Sunday night and then placed on. It's it's very difficult looking back. You're seventeen eighteen again. What would you do differently? What would I have done differently there with my personality and Not Table people can say whatever they liked about man. I'm a funny guy. Whatever but I was like all the coal mine not solve and Jim off course around. But I couldn't work any harder. Maybe a few decisions off call but again that's as an individual. I probably would have gone to American College. Sorry most most definitely gone to American college now. Five Moslem again. At that time. It just wasn't done fourteen in the world and every instead of Mayo pro so I wasn't even really a serious tool but knowing what I do now on sent. Johnson R Kelly. What should make that difference of going to college in gone pro I know only sunny handful especially people that should go pro or I think a very very. I think most people should college. Even if you're GONNA think needs to go because the eleven outlets so good you get scholarship so you don't pay anything if you still got a good ranking still get a very good deal so you don't get ninety five percent scholarship. Whatever very good tennis less you'll competing in high intense day in very tough situations unpicking skills as well. You've been friends with you team. You play matches your training your training probably the same if not more than you would clang on the tool embedded environments editor environments not paying anything and actually come college if you haven't already off the first two years which also has an option college with a degree and with all those experiences not just pretty freshen. I'm coming out much tennis player. If you've gone there and taken seriously if off tennis isn't view which it upstairs me if it's not you come out with a degree. Yeah you're taking a lot of boxes so yeah all you throw your into one basket. Hope for sponsor hope to break the top two hundred first year. It's a playground. Slams qualify for one of those. And then you start. Seeing some money back doesn't happen but it just doesn't happen very often you to meet. Trump's yeah the freaks. How much top hundred can just fall out of sixteen seventeen years old playground? So I'm not many and they've had supports well definitely a lot. You're right a lot of money behind them. So you go you decide. I'm going pro here. You got a good start in Edinburgh rosca classical. Sorry are you gotta go start off to ever. Actually this is so easy. Are Making this transition so easy. So Wimbledon was about seven or eight years after roughly was it walked goes on between those seven or eight years. I know won't say you say you had some finance and you got to be three hundred with sponsorship. Yeah that was twenty two twenty three years old then maybe twenty to ten. That runs out then. Yes things was phones is that you've got to be doing something for them as well. It came to a point where the sponsor want to play matches during where I should have been thanked challenges so it became sort of impossible to work it out that way. I don't believe in just taking money off. Someone offering them or giving them something back. I don't think it will ship worked for that. But yeah for year year and a half to twenty doubles play. Wimbledon qualifying doubles of sixty six type singles. Win Be qualifying but didn't didn't have very much but yeah I was knocking on the door. And then again you get so. You're back to square one against wants to stop playing coach. French league matches basically start all tournaments in the UK. So that goes you tend to correct. You can't travel when you'd have an island your pocket okay before we want to Wimbledon. Did you ever play the Irish Open? I played at once when I was young. And it was one of my favorite And then it's a classroom county which I was a county there and Sponsorship Opportunities S. O. Classes without enforcement at the moment thought it was not what it was Fitzwilliam College. Yeah so I really enjoyed that week. Strange Courts Mike. I lost to change. Okay I think he won a tear. One you want to play. I had him. Yeah second round. Not Very very pleasant on a wet artificial grass court and I actually own indoor coll- for some reason it was too rainy. I wouldn't have let him some some nice out so I played him on the on a new new slow in doco five into awesome. Okay so that explains that puts so let's touch on to Wimbledon. Your great ruin their and all the press you got. How was that experience for small in the lead up to listen to a podcast and you mentioned that every day used to check out of your hotel. This is what you do when you're on on the tour. Check out your hotel. You leave your back on perception old tickets the site within because if you lose you WANNA fly home. You don't WanNa spend another hundred quitnow. It was probably more like two hundred. You don't want to spend on. Whatever is appalled when you can put that to all something else. You have to be tight so I got used to that habit also. I can't enjoy going home. We're staying at that moment. So yeah checked out more go into routine. I wasn't expected to Winston massively surprise but like yeah check out and think Oh. I'll get work. Yeah you're like okay. You ready to go. Yeah exactly. So you'd know pressure on yourself. Is that what you're saying? A little bit is not so. We're not prequalified happy. May Mike my now wife Asab. You always planning on getting engaged and the want to couple of great wants. Sorry that's great that's good. That's good so I went on prequalified and so we were just happy for anything from there then obviously always doubled every time. I want to watch in call a sudden you're looking at fifty an older and more expensive rings and object the same. So you're still the same boat but I sell in quantities like pizza gate a rube left. Medvedev like yes. Such great names now. I mean Yeah. I think a lesson a year later. We'll talk fifty on you when I went actually I'll six down gates or nineteen minutes. Just misfiring overplaying. It could have been very different. Yeah I didn't have the best role that they made me on it. They may be NFC to qualify. But I'm so much happier that way. Then you're not gonNA walk for lucky loser or something on that play. Surrounded method seven full set. So you were playing during. His wasn't wasn't hard compared to on the Friday. Just a case of keeping my enough how your nerves or I ever when you walk on call and everyone's cheering relaxes you. It's like when you can often be nervous system exhibition. Not just before it's really right. It's really rammed that when when it's coming up it didn't certainly didn't hit me then. Branka selves the oppressor building it up at the time. If if Marcus meets brand 'cause he plays federal so you take down. Branka suit is of these hampered by injuries. Well but he's a great player. Yeah and what was the press and reaction like before federal much? Work All your mates texting. It was your phone. Just hopping more fun was going nuts. Yeah I finish applied to paper what month after some people of SIA. I couldn't get through the more than once through the middle close family members are cool me so that was fun. Yano took a while to sift through messages and the fallen tickets is also not my everyone who supplements ticket. Oh well into to be one so year and you WANNA win. Wouldn't take were you handling the ticket allocation yourself now. I have someone helping me at the time. Luckily I I told him unless people definitely want it there and then do we got to because yeah. I didn't have enough time to worry about stuff and sponsors. Were too so in on. Tsa Can you wear this patch on your bowl off so that was all look after? I'd I'd like a Sunday night for those great few weeks or at the turn down twenty from the sun which was very easy to twenty grounds. Nas It is very nice. Obviously being in the court found him through the No. You know no I'm sitting in didn't even cross my mind and my sediment they're gonNA pay him on. I said look. I'm not wearing that much but yeah nice sponsors apart again. People very interested every now. Did you sleep tonight before he played? Fed really wows exhausted so it wasn't just seven months. Eight seven to get better. It was the press in the media and everything that it just exhausted so I didn't have a problem sleeping also great and you thought late so not before play. Rank is twenty. Two twenty nine back got three Monday. Night care you're wearing trs gear. Where are you know not against Brian? Kiss I wore the all Russia because to wear patches as close that you can't win the new kit basically so member exactly. I'm not shy call but it was worth sharing. That are Russia. Okay on it. Obviously everyone yeah I did it. 'cause I love fest which I would have won the newest if I if I could obviously looked sharp as you can on the big arena. Exactly what's up walking at Center court? What seventeen eighteen thousand people Yeah Yeah so we did the war. It was more of a walk through the woods up small scary. There's like a walk. Do from from the change in through the clouds on the call on everyone saw stood there watching you walk on on school at other game plan ahead so it's just came through the Wolof and actually have brady hat. My my stomach slowly match in as a third seconds. Bring Kiss or something Off of that painkiller it up and get on with it. I. It wasn't yeah I I. If you call planets is normally okay. What was planning survivor was just trying to stay. Injury-free stay relaxed and then it was actually trying to talk his shorter backgammon and its first round against Colorado pain. He didn't have a very good surf round and he was struggling with the And I think he has the work done because I hate it. He seemed pretty crazy than I had to adapt again and change. But you know what he was saying when I started landing muster uh on the better than I got more into by the end of the chance to maybe look winning a set to break third. South thing can Didn't quite often but also I i. I was happy with it. Good as we watched the highlights last night. And obviously you hit you hit that famous incredible lob to hope kept fooling opened the first as well so What Yeah what. You don't realize is that yeah it shut the roof so. I don't know if it was if I'm making excuses because Roger them full I felt I felt very different to the ground on the Nathan felt very different from the outside. It's like oh it's quicker. As many times. Eternity Forty Times played on that core was your first time. He knows all the little tricky areas. Livery he does and he's trying to put you there which he did. WanNa the tell me what happened after of sleet press still wing MoD. How has your life afterwards? It changed all say hello stuff and so nice but that he saw a month or two later. I'd say it's quite traumatizing. But it's not all good. No I'm ready. Prepared you to be just in the in the world again courtroom and Yeah. It's it's pretty much there so for me. I'm a wife and harmful engine and you just you just Yeah I don't know it's strange to explain. It's no public divorce on sort of Medina thrown at thrown in public and all this interest and then it just stops again so yeah. That's what I'm doing again. Now at a couple of injuries very lucky to have four children and the square one again and it's not being always easy for sure. I can imagine that where you're you're thrown into the guy and then obviously nobody wants to know you. Did they move on with the world moves off kind of I'm not getting now? You devastating conversations a paper sponsorship. And you know I'm trying to try to even train for free now rather than trying trying you know. People want to pay go news facilities and stuff. I'm not used which is gone. It's just another expense and you think your kids as well. As a couple of years ago people invoice coming in trying to hold starting off again. You know needs to get myself into shape and they look in. Yeah it's GonNa cost you this much new thinking okay. That's the way the loaded that will never change And I get it I will. Why would someone give you something? They're in the same way. You think how the people actually need health guys didn't need it. I would have happily pay to to end the places before when the money is not an issue. Unfortunately doesn't happen. Not Maybe there should be a reverse prizemoney system. I don't know yeah some. Something's not working is no no tournaments. They won't talk guys winning. So they're GONNA PAY THEM. They're GONNA put them on my favorite quote they're gonNA because it makes more money for the tournament as a business. You don't really talk guys losing you don't want no you need them. Sick qualifies doing doing really well even though the crowd loved to see the tournaments down to the sponsors. The sponsors tournaments. Yeah Yeah but for me and you watching massively favor. The Underdog Olifants deaths most fun. Yeah Yeah on telling Me Markus so you became a dod apart from financial pressure to you. Has It changed your outlook on your tennis career. I'm not a much less bothered by now. I used to thaw steam firearm cool and now I'm thinking back. It was a lot and there's no need but again that's the way I could get a right. Get quite copy 'em Pas and stuff and you sit back and have a thing and none of this makes any will so yeah. I'm more relaxed. Forty more patient such would in the same way the lack of slaves bruce. Or when you're often last week was fine because my baby just about trying to sleep through now. So last night's on three but waiting. Obviously my wife does a lot but she's working as well so when you say midnight three and six broken slate ready really hit me. And then I'm waking up naked and then so as injured and probably didn't have as well as I should as on the decision making goes out the window as well. Just have a couple of tomorrow so now the PUCK Christian guy. Yeah Yeah it makes everything a lot harder especially with our plans when you're India especially when you're not sleeping it's you against the well. Yeah I'm coming through it now. Acceptance go to bed tonight and the except probably. I'm probably going to be taught Tamar but I've got no CRAP FOOD IN MY HOUSE. Now so you die. Wake up tied and eat crown anymore. Because there's a big big difference. We have a five month old. Who just came actually think when I launched the podcast and of its made it really challenge in your right. Your decision making goes down to drain. When you're tired you'll do the easy stuff. You need to buy food the Chris Chocolate all the coffees and sometimes a lot kids. Don't want to eat vegetables and chicken this crap around the house a lot and they won't treats US kids should but golly it's when there's always will so I'm looking forward to chicken and but I'm making healthy non case. They want once a week or so if I want to take. You know something. Something unhealthy form and fashion. But it's little rules drawn a game where I live after Wimbledon. You meeting with friends. Mc For ages and hear glass of wine here it adds up certainly does add. But Yeah I've had much because I'm losing weight again now. Also done this twice before so now again but yes. It gives you less energy Just have to be very very organized. Now isn't something amazingly good before you learn you scales. That's the thing. Yeah I'm still learning these skills. We had rashy from touch tennis on here. Ages ago did make it to be quite a good touch tennis player. He has he hoped there. I'd like to think if I by law the ad I went through a runoff on patient for awhile. It's such a fun guy. I can't tell you K- enjoy contact. How Fun hasn't it? Today is Sunday alive which taught and now I've got kids told him told him. Oh I'm going to so I kinda see it just because it's fun. Yeah he's a good guy. So Sean Great Guy Pledges for now. It's it's it's you come home. I came home. You come back with a small and if I switched his which is always important as well because sometimes trainee. It's not all that training is pretty boring. If I'm honest being appropriate sentence play the assault of Simon respectful. They sacrificed every ounce of fun to do the boring stuff. The stretching the way I'm weighing food now never thought I'd say Crow Sir of carbs protein. Eight Dan I make sure that. Go over food scales. It's boring. It's nothing glamorous about it yeah I'm not even guaranteed to get that but I think if you take care of those small little bits off sure so sure but yeah. I mean if you didn't do that would affect him. We don't know but he's not going to take you that risk. No those guys are just to the tate yet. Notre Mason so going to jump in here. We're going to end this with some questions. We have some some instagram irs. Who We reached out. And I saw you reposted and I don't know if you know some of these guys put at hanters one four one. Okay we said the favorite boy. You've coached so I'm not sure if it rings a bell but does that. Ring a rare okay. Progress tour have asked. When will you make you progress to her debut? I'll just literally so funny now. I've just been looking online now. Funding some sort of a French league and NCAA my sister yeah. I'm planning to play some but the full diaries now. So I don't know I am GonNa play more progressivism. Br British toys can but yeah it will be done when when when it when it says the first one on your wedding. Unfortunately so that one thought that'd be happy with that 'em raise a Dunkin nineteen. Somebody's instagram handles are strange We know we've touched on this already. What are your impatience for the next few years but she is just getting myself guy. I don't have any ranking targets in particular next few years playing doubles make make a good living for mockery. I go I'd love sounds ridiculous about bad lights. Top Twenty and top end of the world not pushing pushing pushing for the student on the anymore you know what I mean. Only be a good though a very good. You're not gonNA take part. You're doing it to be the best. No yeah exactly. I'm not doing it hard. I can believe I can. I'm very well. How hot is going to be in a good also? Yeah no breakthrough. But I'm willing to take that risk again. Could Mont coupon on a here we go. Connor Chapel remembered a twitter. You hit against nail ring any bells at all. That was a county count was probably. I don't know he just says conner. Remember that tweet. He hit against Neil Elise laugh and I have no idea remember it was i. Think of the footage because it was on place. I don't know how to share it. I have no idea I could further on out to doing it was it was good opposite using a good people will says. We'll cartman ever make. Return to the tour are a one going to fire it open. Nc L. This year. I want to go too far up at NC L. Social content. I'm trying to get rid of carbon so so hopefully not. I fakty definitely yeah. You don't WanNa see him. I'm going to step on the goal. If I'm fat I love Lewis and Pete us again. Who's your favorite Irish player? Favor or this P. I still feel this fantastic. Who's my favorite Harsh Ryan? Who's playing? I can't answer? Simon car competes. Bradley ought not people for people. That's the answer is looking for. He says he said he'd be good at King King King or stew. He's not playing much but he's coaching there but yeah but he still probably favor always good. He's a good guy. Alcohol Funny Story we can. We stuck in the fall kind. Volcanic Cloud Yeah Madrid and we slept some train station. Florida and our professional. I went to the gym with him. Yeah so join them on the shelf to implant on the bottom floor and like you can feel the weather. You feel the way swaying on. But yeah. That's that's that's another one for one oversaw store. He was a pro coach. Simon from top tennis train at once he retired. But we know the answer to that. Not Know. J Clarke wants to know who's the best doubles player he ever played it off. J. J. J. off the fuel yeah. We have a five win that that was a great run MBA. So I can't really count stay any other. I mean the guy. Yeah he play with Miss. I'm sorry not not so inviting and tell me last question Marcus. It's been asked here loads of times. What advice you have for Young Juniors number one to me is make sure that you're enjoying tennis because again this time into downtown on things but there's too many too many kids giving off at twelve thirteen full of saying because they're not finding it fun you just make sure you're enjoying it and work as hard as you can go to college. I go to college if you've got the option to go get out that. That's great cat through America. Marcus at thank you very much. That was great me really enjoyed that. Really fantastic gold mine markets. That was great. Thank you very much for that. Thank you very much. That was a great episode of Marcus. Really enjoyed talking to and hope you found it interesting. Next week we'll be back with our sh- coach Joe Dwyer he spent most is working career in the US work with all sorts of top players. He shares loads details on. What's needed to become a top tennis player as well? Some fun stories from experience on the tour as I mentioned previously make sure to go to function tennis dot Com. Check out our journals if you haven't seen before and also topped subscribe one but until next week quit there. Hit some tennis balls and have some fun me.

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Passing Shot meets... Marcus Willis on making memories at Wimbledon 2016, what it's really like on the Futures circuit and THAT match with Roger Federer on Centre Court

The Passing Shot Tennis Podcast

1:04:43 hr | 3 weeks ago

Passing Shot meets... Marcus Willis on making memories at Wimbledon 2016, what it's really like on the Futures circuit and THAT match with Roger Federer on Centre Court

"Hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the passing shot. Joe and kim the tennis podcast i fans on today's edition of passing shop meets we chat. With britain's marcus willis on his career in tenants including his memorable run wimbledon his thoughts on british tennis. And what. It's like to love. Roger federer on center court came another edition of passing shop. Meets our second this season. I'm really excited for not just because we had technical difficulties last week. But i genuinely feel the as kind of british fans. Our guest today has given us one of the most memorable runs out of grand slam in recent times. I mean as set aside for me for british fans. I think this is a what the stakes cut of phone. Distant memory and for anyone who doesn't have a clear what we're talking about wimbledon two thousand and sixteen so almost five years ago now and it was indeed a very magical story for for british fans. And we'll be delving into that During the course of this podcast so like to extend a very warm. Welcome to our special guests for this evening's episode. Which is marcus willis mockus. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us here at the passing shot. Welcome onto the show. We're very pleased to have you here. How you doing today. i'm very well. Thank you and thanks for having me on fantastic and how. How if you been finding the latest lockdown. Have you been saying safe. You you with your family at the moment. I'm home at the moment. Trying to keep virtually of being on a few runs and stuff like that but looking forward to the course opening on monday of already people wanting to hit so yeah looking forward to get back out la great. Yeah so we're kind of opening up gradually isn't it and just yeah. I think i've been doing well trying to keep for as possible as well on a different scale. Not but i'm sure. I'm not sure about that. Well i'm not a former professional athlete. So many of our listeners will be british. A british podcast. I think that's safe to say they will be quite familiar with with yourself. And your time on the tour. Especially that wimbledon ron as we mentioned but we do have quite overseas listeners. And perhaps as a on say familiar with yourself so perhaps before we we go into a detail perhaps you could just give us a bit of info but how you go into the school. How did she start playing tennis when you when you were younger mom. She play bevan's in Level when she was younger she had trading on a wednesday. So i used to off to school going sort of watch our and then i'd have a little hit in my spare time. I started playing badminton Of that so six years old Devi trials very badminton player the age and then my coach times dodging many tennis lessons on a pick battleground at old fell in love with a sport instantly and it came to a stage well the involvement in training twice a week and then tennis training twice a week at my parents said look you can pick with a system. There's only twenty four hours a day. So that was quite. Yeah quite an easy decision. I'm chose tennis Eight nine years old and the yet gradually got better but the the style. I wasn't obviously very good. And then i live from accountancy and then ended up paying for great britain unto fourteen and mia here. I say just kind of talking about your kind of genius. Days in how that transition don't kind of in in senior tennis was quite quite seamless. It sounds like you got kind of sort of young age kind of went through the british tennis pathway. To success in kind of did that solvency missy kind of transition up into. I guess kind of level tournaments as you're getting older into a teenager kind of got played county by county event under under eleven or under twelve cool to find out that was a a really good rushing coach. There who who is watching his plan actually beat me and he said to. My parents Good coaching and then me. Nicole flees namus on victim coach. We spent seven years at bisham abbey together but that rushing cut. She was strict. But fun at the same time. So we will have very right hogs Gradually better And then by the time i'll sixteen on top of international junichi nuts. Because i wanted to trying as high as canada junior while ranking semi i got saddam hussein in the wild number one in the uk junius I did pretty well pretty well. The gradually our from county level to to national top sixteen in the country Saying then the life of britain onto fulton under sixteen top three in the country so obviously by eighteen number one. Yeah yeah. I can't tell you wouldn't sorta click go will when i got a lot better. I think training twenty twenty five hours a week so that helps those not actual defining point where backing by it was this year the Stunning being everyone out of nowhere was very economy You'll kind of success. I guess the in the chefs in china junior level reaching number fourteen in the rankings was always kind of fuel ambition to kind of take that into kind of the senior Kind of see again in terms of your like an atp wild ranking how kind of how you can get and you know what was i. I guess what was that. Jump like from junior to senior tennis. What was the was. Did it feel any different. Did you feel like you had to train even more or did you feel that your ability was kind of was going to be able to take you places. Ironically i may y i i qualify profile on seventeen from there. I thought i was still genius. I thought okay. This is the line. I did not see microphone. No again about twenty twenty three years old so it was a bit of a shock. Fa may think it was learning curve. When you're a junior you right protected. We stayed in the Fifth avenue plan the uso. Judy sponsors he got bonus contract. You don't pay a penny for anything and then you you're nineteen twenty years old and you're in the middle of romania poking your hotel Gang lost on a train so it was a big shock actually growing up rather than tennis ability such. I think there's a lot more players in the men's game than junius a lot more solid. Good place So you conradi judy. As you can get away with a with a adachi match every now and again Because know much better than someone outside the hundred as geneva in matt everyone could play well so it took me a lot longer to get the nod hopeful on and i was aiming for a lot more than i shaved. It could have been a lot worse as well as quite a good perspective. Yeah i think oh say what you say about jeannie plays. It's almost like perhaps the top genius nowadays should be more education around the realities of the second because not all of them are going to make it. And i mean. Do you think that's something that could be introduced on the tool now for genius. Absolutely i think the route which is often at a time of every offer on the i'm with my ranking was scheduled to american college on a full scholarship and i think more and more players realizing that's probably the route to go because i The worst case scenario is yet degree of it. Be applying tons of matches with a team. Environment you'll playing very good And you have time to mature in full years. You come out twenty two years old and as category as a number plates doing. Now they're coming out having improved Feeling confident match tight They've got they've got some money behind them. Probably i'm guessing because i haven't spent much less four years And i think more and more players. I mean even author ferry even nori at the time was was number ten in the while genius and he went to college so i think a long object is unless my ideas gregor dmitrov. Unless you're winning challenges sixteen seventeen. I think it's a really really could jump applies to go but that that wasn't an option. When i was growing up it was seem to be college. If you guys at college. You're gonna give up me guy crazy not going to university again. Drink to whatever that was how saved the but it wasn't not a soul. I suppose it's good that perceptions have changed some more on. I think it has become. I guess more viable mainstream option. The more you get of players coming out of that system and having more success on the tour i guess it. It boosts the credibility of as well and i mean for much of your career. Marcus you kind of on on the futures circuit futures tour level would be for business. He pops all very familiar with with the futures level of sport would be your kind of typical season on tour. How many of these events would have been kind of uk based how how much time was spent abroad. We know what was a typical schedule for why. It's changed really every year. Though there were a couple of years where the uk hosted twenty five tournaments twenty five plus so. He didn't have to travel by mouth. Pitchers really good. Actually we had some lows a highly ranked players between two to four hundred mile other years. When i started off number five or six had to travel. I am to play twenty plus tournaments some sixteen seventeen due to injury some years. I got a got a few more But typically unique to play. Multiple elements is the point. Cad bay points on reward or a lot lower so you need to be for a year. You're going gonna play five ready. Good totalmente five. Ready bad ones the rest average. So you need to accumulate as many points as you can When when you had the challenger nike pay the points. A pretty rewarding. Say you'll see a lot of players in the top hundred really have very good weeks the whole year and the rest of the time the second round but the That's enough it's more water. So let's get from the just the challenges you need unique to Matches it's interesting. Because i think was my kind of perception of that. Futures level is that it is part of that pathway kind of upwards. And i i was just kind of wondering if you know what's the sort of makeup of the you know that sort of level is young and up and coming people trying to make the playoffs and if if you don't then you have to figure out why yourself kind of what happens acts or is there that sort of those players who you know. They just love playing tennis and are just happy to kind of you know exist at this kind of level and try make it work because as much as possible even though you know it might not be as sustainable because you know the ranking points in probably the prize money as well is is not is not enough on its own while you're absolutely right. Yeah that they've the it's not enough on its own. That's why players do a lot of that play. French and german league matches thou hunt for private sponsors. Play money events outside in the federation to try and keep financially floats as the question about Sort of ages place Mostly young but he did get some clarity thirty one zero two there. You know there are few plan. Take take a while to get that right through. Some people die trying such But mainly it's it's the young players so of seventeen. Eighteen year olds plus between that and twenty four twenty five a lot of players if they haven't made it by twenty three twenty four twenty five actually cool day because yeah as you said the money's not there and it's it's a tough life. You were people with very very hard. I'm actually the level of tennis is pretty good out there. So people feel like trying to push wall trump a hill as such so Yeah you tend to get a few youngsters and a few older guys. Obviously some in between that. They'll have some money behind the private sponsorship or something like that. And how did you find it with with regards to you making a living like did you have to play those like french and german leagues or other things were you. Were you doing to kind of make ends meet if if he liked for one of the best better phrase. Play french league every year for ten years of really strong But at least the things you have to do ma that's five matches You go and get paid well and that's it sort of keeps you for the rest of the The british tolls the prize. Money tournaments when scarring so other tempt. Those i was very lucky. Twenty three years old. Who came and said on. I believe in you potential some money behind me to use the lap jump from one thousand in the well to three engine twenty in just over a year so it really is important to have one and you'll backing and there are tons of who are slipping under the right all it. Just don't have the opportunity in analysis. Blessed not without without i wouldn't have been Out the janney half so it's really up situation and de feel like cab. Even these players quite young and south like a lot of expectation a lot of pressure as not aware that kind of private comes sponsors. No such a thing in such a young cheap kind of a young age. But you know at that level. Even though it's sort of it might be the crowds might be very minimal. It sounds like the expectation and the pressure is still is so very real and you know it is a sort of flight or fight kind of situation. It feels like say it's it's it's more competitive than probably high and low energy pays a lot of players in the top hundred dempsey. That went very hot but happy to be Obviously tight the top ten. Assad guys a ruthless on. But yeah as you say you're fighting fighting for the same thing. It says a of survival of the fittest. Isn't it so you get these of rieti some very competitive mattress. You see in qualifying. See some cheating. You see some gains Off stuff out there. That's not pleasant. It feels like is a wild away from the cameras and it feels like it feels a little bit more like the wild west of you know of of the tennis. Well it feels like you know you see on. Social media feels like players can get away or they feel like any way they can get away with a lot more than say on the atp too aware you know. There's a camera. It feels like as a camera pretty much everywhere as a result of that field like it it did feel. Does it feel like the wild west soul. You know when you're playing it. Carnot yeah at every late was different from. When i went to france. i they Three hundred people watching but most of the weeks. Yeah that's amount stock walking pasta Bugs trying to pick tennis through offense. That's the reality of it and that's one of the reasons as money next has no money to give anyone. They're not selling anything so Yeah it was every every tournament every experience. I'll i'll look through my history matches no remember. Something's not sold A slight difference but most of the time. Yeah you're paying for a nobody. Apart from other players or a few really mad tennis the local would be that. It's it's lovely to have people you know. Yeah it's always been a bit self conscious if it's just me in the crowd but i'm sure you've got many interesting stories to tell from from all the features events and just what you described illnesses pushing water uphill trying to kind of exist. I guess on the tool but is there any like support provided by the it In terms of your mental health. Not just kind of financial support. But is there anything that when you were on the tool that was kind of provided to help with your missions whilst china survive on the circuit or have you seen anything that come in in more recent years with more focus on mental health app to go negative here pushing walter l. but there's absolutely nothing stogie dugout part of the reason on the i stopped. It's lonely out there and if you don't make any money off enjoying anymore then it's really with if you know what i mean. So that People that radius Playas will try and travel with other of just so you got something to do. Someone straighttalk goal which was was ready traveling with brits radio fun yeah it was just going to mention that because i feel like if you do just sort of play singles it. Could you feel quite lonely. And i might feel like you're such a living a code existence and licking at kind of your your titles in a lot of them come in the doubles arena playing with a lot of other kind of british tennis players as well as like dan met hers. Lewis burton josh poodle. Johnny and i think don evans well at one point you know. What was this attraction. Appear to you. That sort of you know. I to enjoy being young this toll and playing with my send maybe we. It was doubles few this way that you could live out a bit more in a more in a more funding joyful kind of environment versus kind of the singles doubles israeli gift from a young age. I've always been better at being lefty liking. Come to the net often lot better and actually some weeks when you'd australian singles. You get confidence from winning doubles I think one annoying single startles in the rest of so the study doubles titles Something like that but doubles yeah. I you're playing half the field. It's half the size of the Naturally better at it I enjoyed actually enjoy the singles matches. More 'cause he they're in a fight by yourself and it's very character building. I just Yeah i was just better doubles. I found a lot easier it. It helped my game a lot. More six rail obama big built guy. nopd shire on the net. So yeah it just. Yeah just suit- suited me more. But but actually. I had a choice to play doubles for the rest of my life and in the lower. Ranks at tennessee Money and they basically half the points for for winning nasa to actually make a living out of it. You gotta be top twenty three in the world to make a good living An overseeing the sacrifice it takes so yeah and i've been a black state enjoyed singles more. But i'll just froze them as good at it. I think that's probably quite tree for a lot of places you know we We speak we speak fabric about doubles or on the podcast and we had to one of our one of the top female placed on on last year. And yeah i should quite good insight into why she chose to specialize in doubles. But like you said it's it's eighty when you get to the top echelon. It can make ends me as world. Virginia william hill. America's number one sportsbook is now here and we have a special twenty twenty one offered to help you bet on all your favorite sports risk free. Download the william hill sportsbook. At when you sign up you can get started with a risk. Free bed of up to two thousand twenty one dollars. Use promo code radio terms and conditions apply when he one plus on gambling problem or chat or confidential toll free hotline at one eight eight eight five three two three five zero zero to make an interesting with william hill. Sportsbook i mean. Let's kind of move onto your epic kind of i guess fairytale. Everyone throw the out there. Marcus about wimbledon. Two thousand sixteen so low of our listeners will remember. You'll run into the second round playing roach ephedra on center coal but actually began quote way before before the main championships. I believe you were in the pre qualifying events. Is that correct. And you weren't actually even supposed to be in. That is that right. Yeah i saw. I did And the cat was going to really strong out become fully and i was ranked seven seven to the time i normally cows around a thousand but every mile in this dog came back for this year. i wouldn't go in had skulk clayton's flight nocco council from turkey. Wow he was at the end of a singles. Career added sorta turning just to have a swing and a flag. Oh cancelled neath Whatever but i was office actually lost person into that that match i hadn't had bought on cross plank german league matches and doing some some mini right. Coaching model club Obviously staying fit and hitting bulls a rail preparation for women. I mean what was your. What was your ambition. Got gotta gauge. That prequalify just made the car. Was it kind of just taking it. One match till i'm just seeing it. Where where it sounds like your expectations were at minimum very minimum. And did that. I guess that take the pressure off things. Up prequalify twice three full. I believe. I didn't think that was anyone. That aren't gonna bait Options yeah happy to get in and get him. So i'm but i'll be be bambridge. i'm mara and jeff shoals breaks a prequalify so not annoys his door. School didn't lose a set up like a continue playing pretty well. I was really happy to be women. The i wasn't surprised bit animal before so it wasn't a huge shock to anyone because i hadn't people knew i was still playing implying while it's just around the total tom. Yeah of course. I see moving onto the actual qualifying draw. I think people may be realized this. And i suppose as any becomes significant of late. But you've actually be. Andre rip levin daniel medvedev i believe in in not qualifying. I mean what was like play sugita. First round hood qualified. The last three years in a Joel round y'all got through him ripley on you with a very promising young step again. He very young. Quite technically tactically naive at the time didn't really lock coming to the net. So abate hidden straights so three and four four five something like that but but that was actually at the time i thought yeah. This is comfortable out up. Going experience He hated every minute of he was going nuts. Sounds like the replay. I i grew up with. 'cause i've seen him play when he was a bit more naive. I think you see life years ago. Usa putin and yeah he did have a temper him. And you definitely. I think has matured over the seasons but he was a very fiery character. I think probably around that that time you played him yet. Also i've got. I've got good hands up into the net Him at first few games he was hitting the ball so hard. And i said to my friend. So i'm gonna play this for a moment in your sites in the bachelor. Just use my hands. it also and just really gave him. Some radio could stuff to deal with and yeah played into my hands. A little bit and oslo franco Medvedev again research on him Seen it being developed a couple of times but alive why and again young so yeah and in my head loss ryan qualies but also taking 'em out shut solomon in las ron qualities of aslan address. Up him in full sets five one down straight who and his tennis was incredible on. All right this is at me. And i managed to hang back in in the set and get to breakpoint back Five four ended up losing the sets but in my head also raw match now And what. I won the second set as a broken. They went completely ballistic. That's i started believing buddy end. The was six three five to seven in the full. Not chugged norfolk game and then on dial to love it. Fly fool From the stage of being down that feeling to them being five to felt like a completely different match the match talking about kind of reap levin and medvedev. When you were playing them then did you think you know. Obviously they were kind of up and coming up and coming players. Did you think that they were going to be future. Top ten is in on the atp tool when you when you were playing. The moti thing that that wasn't going to be achievable based on on what they they shared you on the tennis cool. No neither i knew how. Well i was playing on you. How they were and how young they are. They still have a lot to learn. But i wasn't surprised at twelve months often will three of the guys. I played Fifty the and. I wasn't surprised so like i'm fully aware of how. What else flagging. how good they were But when you're plan that while you sort of just ride the wave and and manage it. It's it's a nice problem to have yet to go fakes on the match at the time of noon. I mean moving. Into the main draw you had bronchitis first round but just looking at the rule of did you say oh it could be federal around to if i can get through this match like was that you added pressure. We just did that kind of propelled forward because you beat ranker's and oversee first ever victory grandma. I i'm playing a senior grandson. But how did that affect you. When he saw looking ahead in the draw a shoulder at the beginning but to be honest it was such a whirlwind The media started kicking off a bit. So i was just enjoying it. Went to practice. I in the restaurant is just really quite simple heads by so i'd say no i won't didn't inspire me to win a lot of play brian. Kosovo six two six thousand four saying he was number one the wealth of my age incredibly complex. I believe talk win but but really not i wasn't. I wasn't a winning just united. The chancellor federa off the match on seventeen when i was walking off and i looked stolen so the school board fetters. Ninety one hundred remember crap have an issue here. What was it like just in that kind of match. I mean you've spoken about how much you enjoy playing with. Fans coming from the futures level where it could literally be. Cut a ban on that dog all the way to kind of wimbledon championships. Lots of tennis fans around you kind of cheering and cheering you on what. What was i was that feeling. Light to really have kind of the british crowd with you in such a such in a massive capacity is best. Buy career now shop to won't town cool. It was just a people looking over from the balcony tion. Six day in the atmosphere was yeah. I was so shocked at how supportive and how loud it was and then it completely relaxed We're gonna a policy today an Meringue cats and he was he was doing breathing. Nixon the colder Said tomat- get it now and a. Yeah bright first game and i mean it was quite i. It's a bright point issues but it was quite a comfy win three three and fool Applied well don't get me wrong. I think brand has had its best day. But when you got Thrive i always veteran team events. Those people that are pick one game up something. I've always always enjoyed digging something. I've found tough to emulate when you by yourself but yeah outdoor a fantastic was. That's interesting you talk about. The impact overcrowded. Because you know with the gang on and events having either partial crowds or no crowd. And i think we're seeing have kind of an effect on players particularly per game and the you know the energy they can bring to the cool because you know there are some players out there you feed off off the crowd and it sounds like it. Sounds like you're what players and it was just cut if if you will play today in terms of the no crowds and you know as you feed off. The energy is has that become more of a challenge. Now do you think in terms of the impact of the pandemic has had on tennis. I think i'm probably in quite a majority. The plate prefer playing in front of crowds But when they told him it's you don't have the option c. You didn't get the With no people that are enough. Place him terrible matches two people before. It's not landau is just something. I enjoy more unnaturally. When i was running that way thing that magazine tennis at and it's a sunny day. Diane you got the crowd behind you and your opponents than i mean everything. Just stars aligned in luck cooler fate. Whatever you want the the everything just fell into place that day. And i. I took every single chance i had But yeah i mean there are. There are some carrots you rafters would have the sidewalk right if non was barito but the guy is so rare so rare and you say you say play without crowds. A sloppy someplace laterally. Struggled molin normal for sure can compete change even just if there is a few people that you know it can affect how into the match. The the few feed crimes zero. Oh i mean going on to the second round with federal oversee the media. Would it be massively hyping up like you were saying. I suppose your request seduced fees must have gone three in the day before. How did you find juggling all that. Because the normally wouldn't be dealing with so many requests and having students fees like did she not enjoyable. Was it kind of putting you off a bear or was he just kind of again just taking his of the whole experience exactly. I was taking everything out that in. Luckily i had agent during that time. An old friend of mine who was at the time managed. All my stuff is as soon as i thought i had that help. So that was a huge. Like some really ready embody but advice. That rebound sort of saying no Roll cost is about interviews because automated that five hours. Have i said yes to everything Am amedeo still still big but it was. It was positive stuff and was willing to all these running period lead. The students lost a federal. The next one that we went on finishing holly willoughby's thing on on the tv that. But after that i mean i i was absolutely exhausted for two weeks riding on that cloud riding on adrenaline completely disc- on that on that match with federal i mean stepping out. Kind of the stuff of dreams for british play came slam on grass against the best girls. Schools are all time. okay. I mean he lost that first set to love. Will you kind of thinking at the end of that. Say oh this is no gang a tool. Well we kind of just got nothing. Today's and just going to give you know how we failing especially like us. As much started off there was concern. Because i wanted to twenty one and twenty points for set i had gained points every one of my status gains in either one on his maybe to I just wasn't playing the big points on on the on the Deciding point so. I a veteran be when i had john guy for not too much Solids concerned actually. I'm playing pretty well. And i'm six lockdown but actually as soon as about game i i sympathize things a bit. I stopped going facility shots on big points and in the end i had opportunities in the data to break in state step ahead but it wasn't to be but yet you don't have to react when you're out there on cool. My my shoulder was stiffening up the trainer on six loving. You had thinking time there. But that's no way thinking gone tell you. That's what was your game plan going into. The match of cb probably never played like federal before great civil. Now what were your. What was what we're kind of your taxes. What was going through your head in terms of how to make life difficult for him you know. We have seen him. I think there's been a few times where he has been kind of trouble again earlier. Rounds i'm obviously take you about two that that. Follow the hundred dollar amounts choice. It took him five. Actually so i mean like did you kind of looking back those situations in china seek inspiration from there were you what were you kind of. What was going through your head in terms of how how you gonna make your life difficult for him. And his first round against penta. He looks struggling with his lower back especially on the low back end. Plan oversee to to hit that hard. I think he had an injection date before any. Yeah he matched everything through. Emmett will stop but it was. It was actually to talk is back on keep impact that colin are very much them bullying and really give them not no rhythm as much as possible. I thought it yeah. I think i think the game plan was good. I think he's better than a simple as that on the day off of needed. Glad ten hidden as plant a full on and it would have happened. it does happen sometimes the tactically. Ivanka is four his back home and this is before he did all that work on his gun before we paid than if you remember twenty seventeen Rafa you can forget it. But his back anna significantly improve then. I was lucky enough to plan before. So i quite most of my muslim world came from his backhand side admits a few back. Kansal come into his background. Not quite as strong on the pass back then Probably even now to be honest but again you'd you keep playing the same sort of back on a stops running around on your toes so you do have to keep him on. Do have to to make some up an tight risks. That was mine. that was tactic. Yeah you talk about mixing it up. I think for fans the the moment. Everyone kind of remembers. Was that that point that you loved him into that and then you loved him and the crowd went absolutely ecstatic. I think it was kind of the tournament. Can you could you cut. It took a seri- that that point because it was you know i was watching it last week and it was just so it was perfectly worked and i thought he must be. He must be pretty happy with himself. Cut a loped. Lobbed federal railroad said cool. Yeah what was how. Can you describe that feeling. Us just went to lockdown lost my serve from having gained point so i think it was when that happens i was right in the middle of focusing on my friends will jay tau. I apply very hansie so too much device. Look i was playing around a drop shot lob keeping keeping him on his toes but she. It's the way like to not treat play. And on your wilson gonna Trading with him playing pac pacman tennis. I was going to have to really be small and yet that's what i did. I mixed him up that point. He he didn't really have a rate of waller's doing early in the match saw othello had while i was really struggling. Massaging out in seconds The they close the roof. It was found a bit damp Often over about three times now i. i think that's playing federal as well. He makes you feel like you rubbish. But now you had great point. It goes shot the tournament. On the sean tower like tennis logs poces drop schultz's that tell everyone always feel like lobster like a staple of that law. I remember the ad debar. Lob with the the davis cup vitals be such a such seems to be such a You know fad favor. I think about british fads and yeah i just it was just such a you know just a well constructed point and to see it happen. It was society It was very very very pleased to say. Just kind of talking about Match kind of went on. And you know. I it was less. I kind of writing was on the wall and you were kind of staring defeat and when you're kind of coming to the net and going handshake with federal. Did you have any kind of moments with empty words. Fear because he was quite quick. I think to get off the court and you kind of have your your moment you. What did you have any sort of shed. Conversations is as a as a gentleman. And i've seen him the last couple of years and we share. That many ways comes in us. How i am marcus doing about that. No it doesn't but not he. He's yes super ugly guy. Obviously let me have my moment. That went cab on the field. His four I could. I felt like. I could otherwise. I was disappointed but he might spirits So so nice to me and really didn't have to do that. And i mean it was the remarkable toward the whole run three for you and apart from kind of going on holiday and phil you know meeting them the next day and do we media. What was kind of the i. Guess the tight comb from wimbledon twenty-sixth. Did it give you the belief that actually you you can compete with the best. Don't all that you do gotta to be playing challenger in an atp events or will you kind of i guess thinking a bit more pessimistically or perhaps realistically that okay. This is great. If i had a great and i you know load more price on a and you know points per. It's probably going to go back to what i was doing before leading. What was your perspective. Afterwards to build two weeks already. Work everything out out at a dot myself to a challenger ranking. I play plenty of challenges a few years before nazi played. Adp maasai. so i'd had a taste rostock to make money at the game Yeah although i could push lawmakers My house completely Back but i wanna play the told on Dropping set ninety p had lost in three sets from a breakout Some whatever was certainly there some. I mean adapting company wants you know train. A top academy also steinheim. Yeah i think. I'd had enough looking back and at the yes how i felt. Okay guy forbid and yes. It's caught. i was so torn in my head. Because he thinks it's never gonna get not hang but but of course. I thought it one of my playing tennis. I was the Automate absolutely gutted Was because i didn't make men's wimbledon out so close twice radiating clients and really wanted that day out just decide played when it's on. It's amazing so. I think i was happy with that Didn't get guy too much of that. And i believe i have. The level had some good matches. But you need a lot more than that on the toy Going after thirty weeks a year and training fulltime academy so. I think i wanted to do that. It's interesting you talk about that. 'cause recent put costs we speak about dominate team won the usa. You know big fast time grandson law season he feels. He's on a bit of a down at the moment and it's interesting that it's like if a lot of players it's like they've realized that dream realized there i'm bishen and once they've done that and they then look forward They assume near you kind of perspective and is interesting. The someplace i think kind of all ready to kind of reach new heights and want to achieve that. But there are other plays wetterau carnival. Actually it's more It has a different perspective. Going there and interesting to us To hear from you about the fact the you said you didn't feel that your heart was was quite a even though you felt like you had the the ability and was it was that kind of your. Was that kind of coming from that kind of the idea of like the tour and not wanting to guy sat around the world and what was. What was that really coming coming from. I don't know i. I look back and think about my actions not not how i felt I didn't really really push on Tournaments had a couple of injuries. Actually the probably three back a bit. I think every player has a law career but the dominic teams is probably a lot better than mine. My list actually. Eight fifty grabbed guys very quickly. Dominic thiem liz I'm struggling with much of a bit. But i'm still a mexican. He'll getting back again. It's just dip in this career and all the talk guys have had it when when you have when you're low ranked and sometimes it i guess and that's life. I've got no regrets until ready. I'm back and think oh. I wish i did that because i didn't want to. For whatever reason i as i i clearly didn't so i think i think i had enough of being time scraping the barrel But yeah i think yeah. I don rows ready most face. But it wasn't consisting so that sounds like me and my my day job marcus. I have days where. I just gotta be buffeted so i can understand where you're coming from. I think it's not true. You and flow of human emotion. As well and i think we will kind of a similar age. She and i think i mean for me. I haven't been traveling around the world my career but as she got older. You just kind of wouldn't always to be a bit more settled sometimes as well and you just changed knee. What you kind of valley more exact malatya had such a crazy life Nicole she feel guilty. Some people can't alma you'll talent. I'll be doing this knock Get fired up but economist full sound. So unless you're around at twenty four seven and you owns. It doesn't already. How because you know ones that anyone else's shoes so it's Every few years people change change what they want a. I'll be doing it since i was sixteen. So i'm sort of ready to move on now. I still love playing tennis. Get me wrong I don't need to make money and to debate. What really where. I wanna be is talk to top ten in the world doubles and realistically that will take up last two three years. And that's losing forty grand a year. And i'm just not willing to do that is one of those things. With all the best case scenario you did have a prey. Epic doubles win wimbledon twenty seventeen. Next year he played the doubles with with j clarke that year. And you beat mma who an yuga in the second round in five sets. And i think what they were the defending champions at the time. I believe. that's probably the second best. Mockery a cool three everyone. It'd be drinking all day and it was like davis cup again. Yeah i could speak Was was. We should never have really been john's considering how experience i manage a seconds oldman together so we would say that some of them around on the outside cool pulled through that and then yeah they were six. Wrap against dawson. I think it was one of the west of scams seen and followed by obama. Who and they by. Two vocation dumped Five one off in the second thinking hold on a minute basically set and then from set three. We just play ten after both of us and and Unfairly them nearly beat them afford zoe at la. Forty five in the four three matchpoints. So yeah i mean we. We will be fighting currently well and then they got pretty nervous and again. The atmosphere is just electric. I mean accommodate my luck two years in a row out so not so about mr so on just lost As well so. I was down on any qualified c. As in a row that would have been really good. I mean the atmosphere of three bit. Saturday versus sedco completely different party atmosphere pins in the strawberries and cream. It was a bit more. Did you feel it was a bit more raucous kind of outside. Yeah it was like it was seventeen. It was like seventeen brand case. It was up on sensor every much. More well-behaved online respectful Cycles but very good experience for the better when you win isn't it. Yeah i mean at least you said he fell in the final round of qualifying for the singles. Are you was hoping you live a wildcard into the into the manger after your kind of exploits of the previous year or we don't get your hopes up too high for that. Oh yeah of course also on all south gossip. But i didn't get one but osa grateful. has to give you anything to On a bit of adultery shoulder. Probably what i should have done was was restaurant up until the grass odd play. Dennis could loss to alex minore in three sets in surbiton so as playing really good tennis. Yes Futures in spain lost the round on the clay at probably shouldn't play. That told matt in hindsight. 'cause you have other plans james he just didn't plateau and wimbledon walkouts. Maybe that would have been a small swath guy ansett but Again get anything. I was naturally disappointed. Because i thought i had a chance but in the same white great for the qualities on one match away from doing it again i think it would sweet to have qualified again to then say actually now that to be here which which are probably made up for the double so yeah happy. Happy ending the following year. Prequels implant donovan. Second round so that great seven six minutes day. It sounds like you've played a lot of players he got onto to bigger and better things you know the seasons. I mean that's kind of your career kind of progressed. And you're kind of getting towards a point where i guess you kind of realizing actually i need to kind of move on with my life. Was there it was kind of flash. Maybe when that happened or was he saw something that was building up in a period of time. And i think particularly with the you know the pandemic hitting all season you that was that kind of reset business with the toll to that. Give you a different perspective. What was kind of your thoughts in terms of realizing that. There's going to be life off the tennis and that was approaching for you. Yes depend on. I didn't help. i think. I didn't want to feel the way i did. And i think those money continue doing it. Because i do love lying matches. But it's just very unrewarding an grace by four weeks out there. I think picked up about fifty arrest prizemoney to the tournaments Still like cokie. This is rubbish. I'd say it changing. Yeah it's very difficult with a with a situation with with covid with the amount of tournaments going on And yeah it's a distance as something that the situation socks on volks in the app to quit. And i can try and help other people in that game now. I'd like to be taught coach. And and how about get something out of that. And that's where my lifestyle yeah we. We've had a little of our listeners. Asking what's your next next stage. We had to ropy. Learn asking us on twitter. You're going to attempt to become a coach for well for a player on the atp or wgn or are you going to be doing. Coaching qualifications will sounds. Like you've already done a bit of coaching pre-bus correct yeah biz involves Now i'm gonna qualification soon. Just decided that in iowa in half the the dream job that off got something to fall back on tennis wise Be coaching sixty hours. A week on my fate. Until i'm fifty years old now. I'd love to work with top player. On how young says chief. That dreams On local think coaches is molin. Just tennis. I think you can really help people. Molin that Yes now it's just get through my qualifications And see what options i put up. I'm going to be very proactive in and we're ongoing That's that's my to planet longtime who knows. It's either really make any long-term plants because they never seem to planning so he has a wise maeve. I was just going to add talking about kind of your career. In the fact you've come up you've gone you've gone through like almost the whole system really talking about kind of under twelve and under fourteen etc seventy feels that you can as a coach at valley more in a i guess to the take that genius inside of the game where you know what it's light to kind of go from that sort of protected environment a eat a being out in. You're having to cut of a hotel. Kobe should cut a full yourself. Say yeah it's it's it's really because i think we've coaching is a little different ways. I guess you couldn't complain. I guess we see all of them as a fan but yeah feels of junior. Tennis is something the it could be. It could be a opportunity particularly. We've kind of pretend to get involved in voted off. Got as he out up under experienced at in future challenges junior gain. I can give it a good advice. Things welcoming knockin also. Look at the coulda done better and help people that way. You can help people on so many different. Thanks for your success in your failures. Nothing is important to realize what they saw and and learn you play a lot learn. What's going to get them. Tikki non how to get the best out of them On hell but nothing could help your love. You know the full team. Blase each with with dunia. Tennis and i've gotten a lot with with getting kids into tennis with begin coaching. Bob shaw can learn all excited. Great not another chapter in your life in tennis. And i mean obviously you speed sway can go about your experiences in things that you would perhaps want to change on the top. Is there like one thing that if you could the inch onto the tour maybe within british tennis is a setup for young one thing that maybe you wish that wish you'd been able to make he had been around when when you were kind of starting out in your career while i think what will happen. Things are going things the things that people are very much willing to help you. It's winning when you're not doing so well. I think if our young growing up as a as a kid. I was nine. Nineteen twenty when i lost one sunday and also left la nothing tons of plasma. What say the site. I think he actually like a heat. A human connection with somebody molin Someone to sort of check of the day want you next plan so the of life assistance is such and you might not wanna play tennis. But he didn't think they've got a system now where you know. They help you with different qualifications. They lucky strikes. But that's only come in really recent. And i think you just need to have people looking out for the for the individual Rob just you right near out. Yvonne yvonne flexible convey about is but i think addressing that i think they now yesterday that giving the under eighteen winner of nationals women colleagues out. I think i should have happened a long time ago. But it's happening. Now i think taking big strides food. And i'm gonna trying get in there and and help. How many plants like. That's fantastic. And i believe marcus that you have set up a podcast. Is that correct. You're you're getting into the podcasting game as well and is that. Is that connected with your kind of decision to try and help others with that. Jd in tennessee is it. what's the name of what's the. What's the seremet that you've kind of created for torment a day. Australian subbed Fantastic tennis coach. up hill. It's something we decided the. Stop the us lockdown. Let's just talk about tennis and something that's actually kicked off lot. We've had few guests on the call. A big mac listeners. Now something that. I will do for the future and and see where it takes us enjoy talking about tennis we enjoy you know different people's views on stuff aid. No matter how extreme they on how ronald they are good to hit. Perspectives of stuff Yeah started off as just a and now. we've go. Yeah it's got a decent enough backing in getting of emails from people who have already enjoying it. It's much of its tennis. General Chris and it's just it's so sometimes you just have a waffle recall. We just talk. Obviously tennis spoke. Yeah you now. You mentioned kristoff. Got to ask a year ago cheeses and onion all neither. Oh ready salted only. We're only when you were brought. I've never eaten them in england. I really is quiet. For some reason. On holiday takes nicer people agree with me. But maybe it's just because you need the because you to so in england. What's the name of the podcast for all our listeners. Want you talking about okay and his own kind of made. Spotify google fantastic. Well we'll put a link in the eight for this episode. So listeners can have a listen as well and we actually talking gallison's. We've got a couple of listener questions. If that's okay say you sort of. I guess kind of covered this but we've question from lynch pin one of our regular listeners. She said did you. Enjoy all the fame Did you miss the attention. When you got back to regulatory life was it a relief and then she's ps hillary's famous in my eyes. Love that wimbledon's say much him. She's a willis No i shut. They was good. It was all positive story. But it says apothecary. Jews Yourself gaurav a million pounds to celebrity big brother down straightaway. i'd already done like Behind closed doors. I very much enjoy the run on jolo But you know quite normal life as well and we a list question from tom bryant to ask very plain and simple. Who is the funniest person on tour. Nick career. not even a question. I love him to fit. So i mean. I think he's great for tennis Very smart with some of his decision. Sometimes but i think it's really refreshing. And i think waste of tennis. I think Young kids look up to him and and probably play because Behind cousos lovely. Gaza and he has a lot of as well. It's just the people. Forget ca big. He doesn't really have a so Every time he plays. I watch i like goran growing up. Like allow lot margaret. Are you a fan of the underarm. then Team your fan will not out at age in the rose So often people just going to come down your throat all nice. Okay do twice. But i don't think it's something that will see regularly use match You might be able to catch one one point out But out what pay off the wrong person why we saw with all about it. And i think i'm just going to be. Gambling can have an adverse effect. Yeah yeah So marcus it's been fantastic. Thank you so much for your time. And you mentioned a what crisp right but we do have one more kind of food and drink related question which we always ask our guests as we all. Quiet british podcasts. We both love our off t on the passing show. Say we have a pulsing short brief bold. We'd like to add your name to it but we need to ask you very important question and that is how do you take your tea or if you are teetering kurtulus tool like. Do you have a favorite type of tea houses. Yeah i'll be doing some work on a building site my cousin recently and and people bring tease out. So i just haven't hilda's just build a sugar And not some of or three men tale of tried all the all the bullets By coffee mama oatmeal flat white man myself. Ooh i get tight. Rope flat right If i'm having it's It's a note. No suga love equally. Bill a stay of your shitty yes i take. I take milk anymore. I have to say like broke. Standard t and me. I was very intolerant. So i stopped and then i just never went back to it because i just saw actually not saying. I am very much on the bill. Bill t no sugar that is definitely writer Con cont beta came have big arguments quite often. I feel they didn't make the podcast but yeah we we always have not head. Exactly gonna say marcus. It's been absolutely fantastic. Giving you a time to us and coming onto the sharing kind of talking about you'll kind of career in tennis. It's been really insightful. Really fascinating talking about kind of you. Will you will junior career and you'll stories at wimbledon really fantastic insight is what is kind of fuel plans for the future just very quickly for our listeners. Who want to get bit more. Marcus williams kind of social media kind of instagram or twitter. Can you let us know where you'll Listeners arlington's even can confine g. will bom ninety w. i l. nine zero nickname. I got when i was younger. Because i used to have a say a few paul big bomb people to well bob very very very job was always wondering that. Say okay right of land. Something needs today okay. So he's not on on instagram and twitter. We'll ninety nine zero stuff will listeners. We'll put a link to that In description as long along with his. Podcast what you talking about willis but yeah. I think that wraps it up for this episode of passing short meets listeners. We've really enjoyed kind of listening to this. I remember to subscribe to the passing shot to keep up to date on all of the tennis. This season. the on apple podcasts. Spotify over costs costs books. Ciccio wherever you listen to your podcast. Make sure to subscribe to the passing show. And if you have been enjoying listening to us on apple podcast make sure to leave us a rating and comment and you can follow us on social media. We are on twitter. Instagram and facebook ads passing short. Get on get in touch with us on their give us a like a follow. 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The Tour Catch-Up: Rublev rules Rotterdam; Kvitova captures 2nd Doha crown; Clara Tauson's breakthrough in Lyon; Federer's tour return; Marcus Willis retirement; Do the ATP + WTA need just one ranking system?

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The Tour Catch-Up: Rublev rules Rotterdam; Kvitova captures 2nd Doha crown; Clara Tauson's breakthrough in Lyon; Federer's tour return; Marcus Willis retirement; Do the ATP + WTA need just one ranking system?

"Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the show joan kim. The tennis poke cost by fans on today's episode backed by a crowd. Funders beth wenski and penetre andrei ripped rules in. Rotterdam patrick evade capture. Second doha crown. I'm brits. Marcus willis announces his retirement at the age of thirty kim. Another busy week of tennis. The atp and w tools stretching across. Ooh parts of the globe. I've gotta say. I'm loving this. Oslo this feast of texas. We have the baby post australia to open. Philo we've just kind of tennis left roy instead to it. I know we haven't even had the return of roger federer yet. It's nice to come this week. Which is very exciting. So tennis is on the game as usual so he took about. I feel like i'm a bit of a break on record saying that as there's a way save much talk about but let's begin in rotterdam. Shall we joe where we saw. Andre replenish winning yet. Another eighty p five hundred title came i generally. I think this is a broken record as well. Audrey breath winds of eighty p five hundred. I mean short. Cora i mean he on a twenty match win streak at this levels third only to roger federer and andy murray since two thousand nine he really is At this at this level. I is something about it that Really kind of clicks for him. And you know this is just a. I guess in the context of his season. This is just a continuation of the great form that he showed the atp cut where he won all of his. You know singles matches his run to the quarter-finals. At the australian open they just carrying this three To to rotterdam and it's been really impressive because you know there's been other players like daniel medvedev for example you had kind of coming in with similar form You know in the atp. Add australia david. Who have done as well save him to kind of show that consistency in carry on through and win the tournament was was really impressive from him. His consistency is is very very key at the moment. And also in terms of grand slams. He's reached the quarterfinals in the last three slam. So he's really Either just peaking at this level he is also providing us with that accident forum at the slams as well i mean. He came through against morton. Savage in the final in straight sets seven. Six six four se. Perhaps the finest we weren't necessarily expecting you know he was a qualify. But i think we all know what folks can do you on his day. He's had really big wins slams before say certainly they wanted to dismiss easily but ripple had pretty good wins. I visit surpass a jeremy shoddy. Andy murray he andy. In the second round which much to the dismay of a british british fans but yeah rip left just kind of carrying on where he left off at this level really and i think what for me is most impressive. Is that from finals. He is seven from seven. he's never lost a final. He is in the complete opposite of felix. Oj team i think team up and felix into andre left psyche and i need to can you. Can you teach me needs to give rublyova call and just be like why a good finals. Because yeah they're complete opposite ends of the spectrum and it is really impressive that it seems when does get to a fine. We run out of steam. He just treat it like any other match and is able to. You know he's got the champions mentality and not i think is going to bode really well. Full his four his career. And he's not it doesn't feel like he kind of fu shorter. The you know the last hurdle. And i think the only kind of i think the challenge i think the monument is that know is he said we've seen that consistency that he's bedded in a grand sam's as you said the final appearances now in a row we see that consistency at a five hundred level. The anytime. I think we haven't seen that consistency from replay of a strangely. I think in that in the in the middle bit and the you know the masters one thousands. I think was looking his full. Moss's events in his career. I think only reached quarterfinals on one occasion. in in cincinnati in two thousand nine nineteen really. Think really quite surprising. So i think you know. Of course i feel like it's going to be a matter of time but he'll want to be able to kind of transfer that form into moss's events and with miami coming up. I mean there's going to really be no better time like the present. Yeah exactly a whole host of them on the horizon with miami and then the clay court ones shaving they they will go ahead so we looking to say i'm sure he will be making courters semi's if not going further. I'm sure at at these events and this is something untoward happens. But yeah really decent showing from andre rep left i mean just about a daniil medvedev top seed of see coming in off an australian open final appearance. He lost ally of it in straight sets in the first round obliterated his racket not great but from the fifteenth march. He is not become world number cheese. And which is quite significant. Because it's the first time since chief thousand five that someone other than the bake full is going to be in the top in the ranking so he is doing what no other man has taught for very very long time and that's regardless of what happens in say next week. Yeah really really impressive. One of the. I guess one of the longest that big reckless. We we have at the moment. I mean t- thousand five. I think it was late in hewett. The you know the last player in not spot. And i think in the context of the big three. I think this is interesting in the sense that if we once we see i think the you know the new younger generations start to page on territory of the big free i think is going to stop with the rankings festival. We see you know. The big players like federer djokovic. No shoes that told him in a catholic and wisely play as many tournaments in that for i think naturally we're going to see the the up and coming generation impinge on that sort of territory like this festival in terms of rankings. I think there's a is obviously still silver way to go. I think in terms of grand slams. I'm titles but i think this is just showing the that transition is coming and is gonna stop i think i with the the rankings. Yeah and i imagine that dominic thiem name might very well become number two at some point as well. Probably be having a toss. I is incredibly far ahead. And i mean as a reference oversee. He's taken that position away. But i feel like if you're in the top four that that's fine. You pretty much on par any comes to slams space. When you end up avoiding novak djokovic until the fiery end up being in the semifinals with him but that's kind of the a real different say. I'm sure rafeh whiteley to enhance it about it. But i mean he he could be at see. It could be. It could be unseated at eddie. Clay court refill. He would still be the would still be the favorite. He does not need a favorable draw. But yeah it's it's You know i. It's sort of classic sort of ease any interested in titles now and grand slams and rankings probably very secondary to him on that front absolutely. And i mean let's just have a quick note back to rotterdam because of say we andy murray against murray did come through in the first round came through in three sets so that was really pleasing to see that way because remember saying last week that that was probably the best. Raw antiquated hopeful. And if you know he wasn't able to come through that you so would throw like what is the point. I mean that sounds very negative. But it's going to be such a tough way back. If andy is coming up against like the reflexive twelve in the second round. Like how is he going to get an opportunity. I mean i. I know come with time. But it's just is it does show how hard it is going to be for him. It is really really hard. It was really really pleasing to see that performance against hassle. I think has played really well particularly in that. I think he was a break-up actually in that third set but murray was able to kind of chlorate back and hostages kind of ran out. Vence in the end yeah. It was also equally focusing on that mary. Beth not i mean i guess one seven five six but really that i sat was it could have really gone either way and it was really. I think. Impressive Level and intensity from murray particularly in not fess fell away. And i think we've seen that a couple of times now on this combat but I don't think he is price match. Press conference. I don't think he was particularly type of that. He was pretty happy with his performance. It was kind of fascinating to hear him. Talk about this. this fat. the they're all people out there who are looking at the fact that he's getting these wild cards and you know thinking why didn't you know why doesn't he just retired. Taking these wildcards away from players e you need it more this sort of you know we've seen this sort of i think Topic and subject come up before. But now it's coming into kind of andy murray weldon and his point view. He's just basically saying. I just wanna pay on. I think he's great though. Go these as with what we've had with what hit it's just like you know. Soy one hit with ad with an injured with a metal hip is why it was meant cease and kim. But yeah he's he's obviously. I think aware that there's this sort of negativity around this his comeback. And you know particularly i think unseeded getting these cards. But he's got a saw somewhere in a new height. The edith you do he could get a bit. Clyde draws because abby had left this week went on to win grasimov got to the semifinals. Lost weight is coming up against informed players very early on in the tournament. he's playing in is making it very very difficult with his one. Original hip pat. I i know about. I mean we'll just have to see how the draws heavily have drew being kind to him going forward but just before we move on to. You know the rest of elvis weeks. It was also nice to see kei nishikori Back gangs and wins onto his belt as well against the goals fight on so always nice. See him back and doing a bit betsy. He's been struggling to all with injury and suchlike. But i mean let's go on to i guess the the big event in the The women's soccer things that deputy five hundred hours in qatar day hall Petric vicente winning very very comfortably in the final against gavino amiga rita. This really surprised me. The scoreline actually. Because i thought mc aretha was going away i mean i just don't agree with a seems to be ready on down to win and the matter of the victory by kavita. Yeah definitely surprised me. I know that they had met three years ago in the in the very same vitamin b. Three such a winning that one as well but seven. Yeah she's got quite good head-to-head against beans five one up. I think jeez ever so think about that match up the israeli good fake for giver. Because yeah i think she's won the last five in a row and it was really impressive. Week from covetable. She just played fantastic. At times unstoppable. Tennis and it was just very very impressive. And then that fond against mcgrath through one of the. Yeah one of the form players really. This season beat her to and one. I think moog aretha was an firing. And paul that was. I think convertible was paying. So well the unforced error count was. I think was quite hyphen for that. But yet the level convertible was hangout was fantastic. I think as a fad a cut of what she care. It's you know he's fantastic to see her kind of winning these winning these events and taking your take these copetition Ruthless way. I just wish that she you know we were kind of. Spoke about your catchy. Do the grand slam and yet we see this form would just lie. Where was this at the australian open. Where was this in in the you know in the that she's been playing recently That's like the one question. I have is whether she could call of transfer this back into the you know the slam arena. Because i didn't really feel like we talk about talk about her genuine genuine genuine slam contender at the moment. Despite being a former som- champion. Yeah time wimbledon champion. Got the final last year. So absolutely but yeah. I know exactly what you mean. It's she doesn't end to the conversation these days because we know that she can one day together but she seems to come unstuck of layer at slams but yeah i mean this was at twenty eight th career titles a second to in doha. There had a great week. Obviously azarenka was doing really really well. As well i was very excited about as rancor against make aretha but as a rank out with a injury which she had sustained against selena leaner in the quarterfinals. So she she was in some really good form. Winning sweep up to not seat still managed to get through against with selena and just gouda as well continuing her really good run afoul from the australian open reaching the semifinals as well. She was qualified. But i was actually shocked to hear that she had to qualify. because in my mind. I consider her above. Qualification was with her recent results. Yeah i thought that was quite surprising. Just having to qualify for w j five hundred given her reason before but says particularly the australia gangs quarterfinals. I thought that was a bit funny. I think that's probably a result of the ranking situation at the moment which we're going to get onto but just going back into that match between italy and as a rancor some of the highlights of this. This was a bizarre bizarre match. Because as a rancor. I think injured himself in the warm-up decided to play on it was quite clear that she wasn't one hundred percent You know in in the match in the rallies and she came through sixty six four. And i generally i just think fit. Lena just did not know. She did not know what to do with an injured a payment on the other side of the net because she literally just played. I think you know the lien away. And she was just kinda hitting it back into the the has aranka strike zone and as a result as rank was able to. Just go for it. And you know it really wet. Fresh was able to shoot in the points and win the match relatively easily and just a funny one. I think lena she should be looking at She she's got the experience she should be looking at looking an injured opponent. And being like. I'm gonna need to move this opponent. All around the corner not going to be able to just hit it into a strike zone and i was surprised that she wasn't able to adapt her her strategy. Yeah we know that it can be quite tricky. Playing against an opponent means just ask navyfederal riches opposition at the of the hell that must have affected them. But yeah it was. It was a shame. Though i guess for her. Because of as rancor withdrew so it would have been reporting for selena but such is life. I mean the other result. Joe that really caught. My eye was gen. Brady losing very easily to an fate in the first round. And if this is like a big kind of curse of the finalists cnn then next match back on call bay flus in straight-sets. But i i hate. This is just a one off but i hope that her confidence hasn't been knocked from kind of getting debilitated by soaker in that final. But we'll have to see how she bounces back. I'm sure it's just a temporary timber thing. Today is a extremely competent opinion on her day as well. But yeah another win in the back for patrick. Rebecca she'll be hoping to do the doha dubai double Which only if he plays think don as we go into by which is already underway. Yeah it does. Doesn't it the sunshine double. Can we thought the middle east the middle east double or the the doha dubai double night services alliterative. I suppose i date but we had the w. t. h. e. fifty event out in leon in furlan. So this one well. We had an old qualify final between clara towel soon and victoria goalie edge and clark howson who is a very young danish. She was This was eighty. I think has said mangerial apparent. So you know. She's she's really just breaking old onto the main tour after a junior career. Which you know. She was well number one in genius. Yeah she's she stormed to victory hadn't lost a set all week in all her had seven matches including a qualifying rounds and yeah came through in the final six four. Six hundred over victoria Switzerland was really really really impressive From the day a lot of talk about. I think we speak about her before because she had that standout victory. I think against gen brady lost in the french open in round one. The saw her on the map. Because you know she has been a very good player at the junior level. And i was you know we kind of interesting to see how that transition would go into the into the senior level but yet she has been really really impressive lee on this week. A lot of i think a lot of people talk about in relation to obviously caroline wozniacki. But you just you just go look a gabled and call it's completely different to caroline wozniacki style of play. It's a lot more aggressive. And i think she succumbed to the net and kill the point softened yet it was really really impressive stuff from her and i think what she has had the opportunity to go onto the kind of the the wto tour in the in the main role. She's really making the making the most of those opportunities. And i think it's kind of reading about a lot of stuff around her comparisons between her and kirk gulf and this sort of feeling that curkovic wildcards and gets these opportunities handed to her whereas car tools his really had to fight for these moments coming through qualifying. But she's really making the most of it when she when she does. Get to. The main drills nee definitely and i i feel like she's more comparable to eager shield and tech as well just. I don't know it's hard to without dropping. Sa they all the same the same age. I think that both nineteen so actually. Yeah i feel like she'll be looking to looking at shown to us as inspiration i suppose. shoemaker top. One hundred debut From tomorrow which is fantastic and definitely one to look out for you. Know for the rest of the season to see if she can build on her amazing week and and do this again or get to more fighters and perhaps make inroads at a higher level of tournament as well so see this is achieved. Fifty says you'll be looking to play of the higher events as well and see how she gets one of those. I think the thing is with again looking kind of ranking. She's not really unfortunate. I think sort of Zone between. I think she's going into this around one hundred thirty and it's because of the rankings in the way south that ranking it's hard for her to get into these angels but then at the same time in the the twins below that really doing a lot with them and i think it really doesn't help with players like tolson who have clear potential clearly on a path up the rankings and being kept hidden in check at the moment i feel. I'm hoping that yeah. She can continue that rise up the rankings because she was getting into things losses in your ambition was ready to crack the top. One one fifty. She did that. And you know it's it's it will be fascinating to see what she can do In terms of the rankings this season despite all of the all of the restrictions they she might feel the owner of the human definitely. An what did you make of the core at leon. Bright pink and it was quite. We put out on twitter. It was quite an ira panetta to cheat. And i think it was very divisive between the policy community. I think there was some people love to be really hated it. I liked it. I think it was quite brian. Look good on tv. It was very different. I think i think it was always completely opposite to the rotterdam setup which was very dark and I feel i was a bit more. Atmosphere was really really felt like it was of focused on the like the core and they were kind of making sure like the the The empty seats will like invisible in with the player boxes at the end almost felt like a setup but yeah i thought this bri i quite liked it. Thought it was a different. We've already seen that combination before. Say i founded by. Yeah i love a bright pink cerise paying. I'm there for that. I i was great and if you had been there in person it certainly g nodding off in the middle of the match was just like this garish color in front of. Yeah it was a big fan but seven. Yeah we will say. Joe had the ordina open in buenos aires classic golden swing tournaments out on the clay and south america and bizarre an amusingly. The author seren delay got to the final. Say this is francisco. Saron delay brother of who manuel seven-day walden his. He won the tournament in quarterback last week as a qualifier wound. Who's a wild card. So out of nowhere and his brother fronts guy go all the way to the final in buenos aires and we were really hyping that he would go away and they would become the first brothers to win back-to-back titles in the air on the tool but it was not bakers pesky diego's schwartzman nip sign the ballot by thrashing him today. Yeah i think. I think sarah was going into that final. I think he had a bit of cramp in the third in his semifinal. Against romo spinola's so i don't think it was. I think he was getting into the one hundred percent. But yeah. I mean jay schwartzman. He really routed to the competition. Really didn't drop a set A lot better than than last week where you know he was he was. I think he was the thing he was the top seed lost in quota yet. He'll be really happy with his performance. I think the the really without hey is the sarah daylight brothers. Because philip. they've taken the golden swing It full i really because it has been a really fascinating an incredible story. I think the last two weeks for them. I mean a pair of brothers he base people would know of of coming from relative obscurity to one of them winning quarterback co quarterback apron. Then the other one following opt to get to the final really really impressive and yet. I mean who knows where they gave me. I was a bit harsh on one. Manuel loss we sort of sega. Servers is kim. Because he wanted he won last week. So i would say that ramos is probably the ad play. He's not happy for them because he i think beats he's been beaten by both of them t- weeks okay. It was just so bizarre like having them bathed rock alpa tour. Yeah never heard of before. And i think francisco had actually had quite a decent record on on the challenger circuit before unlike. Why manuel say perhaps I mean we interesting to see which of the kind of go rise higher in the rankings. We'll do the best i space. It really helps having each other to travel around with on the tour and sperry each other on. I'm sure francisco was inspired by his brothers. Antiques called say yet really. Nice story tacoma. Golden swaying a nicer. Shorts is to get you know. It's hard to be winning the title. Say he's justified. The expectation also had a bit of classic ben while pair antics out in a porno areas. In the week. He got a warning for s- pitching on the court. I she because he was protesting about a A mark on the clay. Which obviously they. They didn't have hawkeye. They is back to the old fashioned pires. Cool pair disagreed spat on the mark was given a warning and then was dr point in a couple of games eight spitting yet again as per twitter post later on he. Quite frankly didn't give to heats is he was put up paste showing how much he earned in his whole career on how much the fine is like convenient. Meaning this in the grand scheme of things which yep if a bad attitude from ben. Rolpa the better i mean. Do we expect the double-faults he served in the final game of of that match against it was actually gets francesco. sunday night. They were tara. They were really bad and not. Just fill bill byers for him. We know he's got these antiques. Think he's just. I think he's just frustrated in his you his game you know. He's probably in his game at the moment because it's just not clicking for him and he's going to south america hopefully to do well in these competitions as a as the second seed but he's he's coming on early on and yeah he's just it just kind of taking out really in a way. That is just not acceptable. Particularly i think now. Y- spitting is just not acceptable. I mean it was never acceptable but is absolutely even more acceptable. Now i think post corona virus in this in this sort of outside one. Yeah i diagnose the can do anything more if they can. You know or if it's just through the tournament and in terms of that fine yeah. It was not a good look for him. Now i mean i think i would have four fifty taber a whole point game from from the first time. He's found it because zeke's is absolutely disgusting but on that note we'll take a quick break less. Talk about spitting the better join. Join us in the second half will be looking at a whole host of things. Marcus willis retiring the update on the hp rankings. Older girls from next week including by and also roger federer's return in doha anywhere. This is the pulsing. Show your joined by joel and kim. Now we're going to move onto a little games section. Joe you've got mysterious player. Obviously i do have a mysterious player for you say. This is a gay. Feel free to play along kim. I've got a set of clues. Are you ready. I am indeed. That's i say. I was born on the first of august. Nineteen eighty six That's the same year as a case of they are thirty four at the moment. Okay next. I have a current win. Loss record of four hundred and sixteen wins to three hundred thirty six losses with three career titles Being around while played i could fee- number matches three titles say probably a journeyman or woman. Wow okay I should make an early gash. Should not now. Do you normally pick a woman for me. i can't think of any ladies Spent news not circus. She's one more than three titles. Rashad gasquet incorrect gas. Okay next clay. Yeah my career. High singles ranking todate is number thirteen achieved on the twentieth of march. Twenty seventeen Which incidentally is my is my birth date. The twentieth of march pursue. Yeah so reached number thirteen in singles career high ranking on that date in two thousand seventeen so he peaked about four years ago. I can't think of anyone. My mind's gone completely blank Next next yet. I reached the semi finals in singles at wimbledon in twenty sixteen. Where i lost to serena williams. It's a woman it was the creepiest wimbledon semifinal in the history of the championships blimey. He was that twenty six eight now. Isn't that the curb one imboden go. She would be in the semifinal. Oh i think it is because they had recent they haven't they utica. Just got seventy five. At wimbledon dave. She was the quickest defeated semifinalist argus. Yeah incorrect it's not yulia kirgiz next clue yes please. I have won three grand slam doubles titles and one mixed doubles grand slam title. Could it be lucy sufferer. Eventually she did get to a semi would him. But i think she loves to. Wasn't that one for one. He thinks i forever yeah incorrect. Not sufferer evo- oh set out a perm cover incorrect. It's not for me but it was years before that i think wasn't it. Oh next next. You'll be here all night. I became women's doubles. Well one for the first time on the eleventh fifteen took two thousand. Eighteen women doubles number. One say we've had people like stretch of a matanovic gossip. None of them. Were we modern well. Transfer has modern semi but more recently Oh my lord it's not a jiang g or someone either is it or am kidding correct. Oh this should. I be guessing. This is really you. You just despairing with may i call it thing next clay. I won gold at the olympics. In rio 2016 monoply now mean in the doubles incorrect to mock lease feeding this after the final should be able to get one hundred percent longer. Otherwise case. ariya next kleenex clay. I am coached by dmitry tursunov. Now that's not sabah link. is he not suppling criminal. Stop lenka suppling. Could be a shower. Actually but it's not sabotage that she's not goto wimbledon semifinal. I have no idea. I've no idea fido claims. I have just returned to the tour after taking maternity. Leave partnering with laura in the doubles in qatar. Sorry did elena vacationing get to wimbledon singles. I didn't realize that i would have said otherwise. She lost she. lost sixty. Six love to serena williams the twenty sixteen wimbledon semifinal. Okay oh wow. I didn't realize that well done. I thought was a good one that really got me. It took forty eight minutes. That's how quick serve me. Forty eight minutes. actually. I figure i will say again. This story okay. Well that was. That was a good one. That's really my worst. One safer say well done. I thought you were going to get lot just had a complete mental blank for hit said my partner was an makarova with that have given away. I did get her apartment in talking. Clues was one of my cleese. Okay called let's move onto the mayo back. We had a lovely question from lynch pin about service. Let's joe so this is what lynn asked us. Should we get rid of service. Lets players have to deal with net-cords in every other area of the game would be entertaining and speed up games. What you think of joel. Yea or nay to be this to size of this. Because i think it would make it more adept think it would make it more entertaining more exciting and play his having to kind of adopt players. Who your light to be so far behind the baseline and the net. Coordinate sure think it would be quite interesting an a of kind of entrust. I think particularly i think from that first moment so you know you always in these sorts of long rallies so i can see. I can see how it'd be exciting for fans. My only my only kind of like drool. Back on. I think is the i just would hate to see like matches one on let that is one for me. One of those things i like. Don't i don't like to say the idea of if we got rid of service lattes and you add it just dribbled over the net and they won the uso witter wherever it just would feel very it just would feel very would feel very it would just kind of be anti climatic and i think for that reason of a bit. I'm hesitated of light to. Maybe you could test out. Maybe something you could test in the you know the next the next gen series. The you know the tool at the end of the season. I think that's definitely probably some wealth in exploring it at the toll level for me. I think yeah. I'm a. I'm a bit hesitant. I mean how often would actually happen. They would happen on like championship. Probably not very often. But i suppose you could say that that could happen in the in the middle of a rally and that would be allowed to say that's leading point is that if you're allowing it in other aspects of play then allow it the whole time which i can t get. I personally mine service. Let's say i think. Sometimes they add to the tension. Someone's like struggling on serve. And they're like down a break point and it's like oh it's just really both a fan. So i'm all for sleigh play. It doesn't bother me. How sleigh referees. I you know you can take sweet time so i take mine service. Let's that much. But i think that's as interesting point and i do think there is definitely read for that to be trialled at like you said events like the next gen. Say great question keaton coming last next. Go any other questions that we can all all head sewn. And i'm thinking about but that's the tennis joe back to the news from this week. As we mentioned briefly earlier marcus willis has retired now. He is a british players. Some of all international listeners may not be familiar with marcus. But i think he's mostly famous for wimbledon two thousand sixteen where he qualified won a match and then ended up playing against federal on senator. Which for a player of marcus. His ranking at the time was kind of a fairytale you reminded me of the wimbledon film where pizza colt on political rod. Quote said torella story. ask Yeah he i think he was like nine hundred ranked in the world came through. Pre qualifying came through qualifying and yeah ended up in the second round facing roger federal. And i mean it doesn't get more cinderella story than kim up when i was kind of researching the came back. Not even i didn't realize in qualifying he beat medvedev and rube. Loves to make the main drool which i think give web method of reval. Today is seriously it just adds to the it just adds to the story. Yeah absolutely. I think. I remember watching him against. We're blessed. I think at qualies rahab tonight was out at least a part of that match and i remember thinking over. Blood looks quite good prospect. But yeah i mean i didn't realize about medvedev either so amazing you know in in in cortex and obviously he came up against veterans and go and lost in straight sets as you would expect but managed to lope federal which i think was voted like the best shot of the tournament and he got the crowd going. And it's just a really nice the player that would normally get that exposure. Show or opportunity can say you know page roger federer the king of central at my home slam and have that memories loop back on and oversee a. It's unfortunate you marcus retiring. He's thirty but he's oversee trying to make an existence at the the real lower levels of the tool and what with cave edge on the difficulty of travel the richest prize money ranking points. It's just not financially viable for him to carry on this kind of his reason as industry for giving up giving up the guys didn't moving on t. pastas knee. yeah. I think it was interesting. Him talking about the the fact that it just. Didn't you know sums wise. You just didn't add adopt anymore. And you know i think that would be a lot of players. Probably at his level his around his ranking was maybe even going through the same thought process at the moment because of coronavirus in and what it has in terms of resulted in impacted on that lives and Yeah it's it's it's a bit of a shame but you know this is i guess this is. This is how the tennis structure is at the moment. And you'd love to see more players. I think further down the rankings. Be protected and have i guess more financial support. And i think we're you know we're seeing that we're seeing that happen. With the i think the prize distribution with at the top level going from more from la winners and semifinalists down to kind of the you know the first and second rounds and i think that is helping but you know that's that's again you so far down the kings baby all hundred or top padron fifty a is just. How can you go down. And you give that level of support going beyond the main tool into challenges into futures because that is west some people ply that trade and you know they love tennis. That's what they wanna do. Can it be more sustainable. Because think at the moment took marcus with this for some players. It just it just doesn't add up. Yeah and even before cave. It was a wry struggle. And especially if you've got a family to support an effort thing that's going on. It's just not a secure thing to be cheering. And i think the right decision is a shame. But i suppose he's probably had a good ten twelve years and i think there comes a point when you get to the age and you're a bit tired of traveling around. I have to pay a bit more settled. I mean we're similar age to heaven. Bathos probably fill a bit less like out there as we were when we were earlier in our twenties we know professional sports people but i can kind of understand that kind of the age aspect as well so yeah. It's it's interesting. I mean i'd to pick his brains more about the decisions and everything be quite interesting. The other news that we had joe is about the ranking calculations for the atp. Because see they've had to change the ranking system as a result of the pandemic. They've actually announced a new system. Which i think is supposed to be well a fairer. I suppose and read it twice to understand is is a tricky made my head her kind of trying to figure out because yeah it's quite complicated bay was. I think we'll go. Go say this is just the for now. But i think it is becoming more more critical. The the rankings are more. I think fluid and reflective of the current performances in tennis. Because we all getting more and more situations where it just doesn't seem to reflect and you don't wanna ranking systems that in place where i guess fans looking at the drawers and looking at the cd's and they're just sinking and that doesn't matter because the the rankings really mean anything of the moment exactly what they're doing is they're now going to be looking at points earned events from two thousand nineteen but events that were they're not able to be held in twenty twenty for example the miami apron so you essentially a player he plays in the same event this year they could either take hundred percent of the points from that event in twenty twenty one or fifty percent of the points out from our event in twenty thousand nineteen whichever you know they did better out whichever would be worth embraced and that will be counted towards ranking. So this will happen up. Until i think august a thing this snotty mazda share and then they'll just go back to the old system and then after a year from august the the points from these kind of twenty nine thousand nine slash twenty twenty. One thing. we'll drop off. It's i probably that's probably confused. Everyone who has already looked to this. I'm just competing myself by even talking about it. But essentially yeah. It's taking into account plays preview performance from two years ago So they're not completely missing out. But if g better this year they're rewarded more than stock from as much as they would have been a lot of people are looking at. What does it mean for the players. And i think one of the biggest winners Is roger federer who hasn't played a lot of tennis The last year or so. He's going to be able to still have a fifty percent of the points that he made. in twenty nine hundred nine still affect his his ranking and kind of keep him in his place at the top i think generally. That's the kind of feeling that this ranking system is doing is is benefiting the big players in terms of keeping them there but it's it's disadvantage shing the players who are in a lower down who are playing above their ranking but actually seeing any gains from it and you know there are plays out that the you know. We're seeing this. I think when the on the women's side you know players like jenn brady jessica peculiar having like get success grandsons but you know. It's really reflected. Their cases at peculiar to qualify for five hundred day always doesn't sound right but on the men's side is well we. Seeing people like for example riley palca who game was kind of fifth straight it. He's he's had a good loss. Kind of twelve months be still remains outside the top thirty. You're not seen as matching in rotterdam this week loss in the first round you said another week of of losing money and and i think that with these plays you all playing out their skin. He will progressing. They all getting frustration because they feel like that. You know playing tennis. But they don't have any reward for it exactly. And i mean we'll have to see how it works in in reality a d. Think that the the wchs something similar. Because you're say it it does create some weird scenario is but i think this is a step in the right direction for the time being from the i we'll have to see if the wpa follow seat but just not came. Actually i was just say we've had this season. The you know the atp and wj come together in terms of making it easier for fans and rebranding the tournament structure with one thousand five hundred two fifty a across know the men and women's tools. Why can't we just have a. Can we have a university agreed. Sort of rankings calculation across both tours as well i think it would be a lot simpler it below easier. It helped i think fans just utter stud y- y if kerry golden says fill it. We always have these sorts of announcements. They dislike. I just read the i said to said we're just this. Is michael picketed. So i do wonder whether this skype there may be the atp wti to get together and maybe have a more consistently applied calculations structure algorithm whatever is for rankings. Think that just make ten tennis more transparent accessible for everyone are preaching to the choir that joe completely agree. Let's talk about roger federer because he is back after like whole year out essentially and he's back in the eighteen fifty event in doha which is loaded. Your we've got dominic thiem ripley shapovalov. You know he's not gonna mugs down the other end basically ab his opening match as well. This is really interesting. Could be data. Fittings off jeremy shahroudi. He's out and quite good nick lately. But mean i'd love past needs. Say dan evans up against federer inveterate first match back. I think that'd be a roy. Opportunity down i mean. I'm sure fetters of see. Find be back on the call. He's being the off training Solidly to reach this point. So but econ expect to coming back off such a long lay-off so be really intriguing. Yes definitely i think he's got these. He's quite kind geraci. You look at the two hav. I think the top paul is certainly more dangerous. I mean you've got a team public spending well. Recently we spoke about a palca group laugh and then food and beverage co all in that top off. These s car says well. Yeah exactly the the bottom half He's actually i think while them in shapovalov is is the four-seat so you know it will be as we say to see how we get nothing. He saw his expectations quite minimal. In terms of you know this at this point in time is just about building up to be kind of stronger fitter faucet excetera just getting back out on the call. He did talk about the fact that he hopes by wimbledon. He's going to be one hundred percent and that's when the st The season starts for him so identified a bit of sort of just making sure expectations even know he's one of the cases of a tie. It's like so get to this expecting him to win. Kind of you know two fifty very easily as you said. This is a loaded draw by think he's got quite a nice potentially quite nice Route potentially to the final but that first matches is nor gimme. I mean as you said. Shaw has been playing pretty well Gave ever really good run for his money. In rotterdam on donovan's will again. I give him a good run for his money in his first match back so think we will see what his level is out on that first match because those two i think some of the form plays particularly with shoddy. I think at the moment. I'm really hoping for donovan's federer loved. See that i'm just making my mouth. Water use eerie federal. Quarterfinal is what we're all. After a with a wildcard one my one of my favorites you about crew say but my mind mallet. His chore itch in the first round. I mean icon. See an upset. If i'm being honest but i'd love to. I'd love to see cubs three here. You days he does but yeah. I'm sure your eyebrows raised when he saw we've also got to buy which is a thousand event. Wgn say this is a big big big event for the women. Obviously christopher as we set is aiming to do the due to by double which hinges and just in an have done but not many as obviously say she'll be hoping to end thoughts in that drought but we'll have to see because it's a loaded draw again slowly loads of top top matches. We've got some cracking first round. Like caroline say against angelique. Kerber coq one this evening against alexandra. Ten eight in the phone at tie-break so that was a cracking first round as well at least merchants fearing affair like this real cool. 'cause in that right from the get go and i mean as in neutral have to see if she's out she going to play with with the back injury But this won't go could go anywhere really. I want to make any predictions. Yeah came and to be honest. I was looking at the store and looking at the fact that you know full funny. Four of the top ten women playing field that's going to be big opportunities for some of the lower ranked players unseeded players to make some big gains in terms of ranking points. Particularly with you know looking at findlay pick as your to seasonal in the greatest of form at the moment. Say i do wonder you know he's gonna think potentially make the most of that. I also go to say. I think we spike about las adelaide. Being a five hundred. And i didn't think the the playfield ready matched it a you know looking at the dubai field as well. I don't think it really matches a one thousand caliber level. And you know. I think it's not naturally because of the pandemic and plays being less mobile affect sports. Go to these places and do these do these tournaments but yeah it just feels a bit just feels a little bit one thousand light for me at the moment he i mean there's no soccer serena i'd get where you're coming from but mutharika is actually which is nice. She wasn't in. Doha say her raw. We've also got the atp in marseilles happening next week. To fifty event medvedeva top seed also likes sits pass catching of bear. So yeah i guess. Yanic scene is back corral exhausted that i hate peas recovered from whatever injury he had and Yeah classic first round between for and feliciano lopez. I'm loving the old schooners of that one yet. I also really are so that was that was the what i was thinking the drool but yeah medvedev. Obviously we want to do better. The loss loss timeout interesting to see steph surpass pass is the number to see but his brother petros guetta wildcard. I know a lot of people on twitter. Were theorizing theorists out in terms of you know was that linked to ever since obama was playing on all you know. Should that be allowed. You know day. Think petrosyan really has a lot of a match wins on. The tour de has has any Even when the until. I'm not even sure. But yeah those kind of people talking about that. And having an eyebrow raise their in terms of wildcards and the allocations and it feeling a bit feeding a bit nolte baby from the toilet organizes auditor convince baby supposed to to play. Yeah i think it's fine. Letting him play in the doubles perhaps per singles genuinely think there would be better women qualifying. Yeah walk of the qualifying there. We go that's bef- errors into but i mean he knows he may previous wrong. He may go to wowed. Wildcard run to the final and he might be his brother umbrage. We'll have to wait and see we've also got the atp fifty out in chile This wall because charissa is the hurrah and also the seren. Diallo's i think all in the says well by them say they may very well meet in the final that would be. That would be going some if it was a third sunday in a final in the third straight week christian garin is the top seed hair. He's in front of his home crowd. She's nice for him and we also have the guadalajara w. fifty i in mexico says all lots of eighteen fifties on and puerto roscoe is the top seed I was gonna say she's at home but she's knock. She's argentinean so gay. Mitchell khufu wrong there. Yeah i noticed. I saw this your goal. You bitch is it the draw and she was at the fire to lille so i'll be pressed if she decides to make that trip from leon inference to mexico for for two fifty. I mean bichon card again. A lot of people think there's been a lot of talk around the last few weeks on wildcards allocations particularly in main roles at the moment and arguably some players. Some fans will look at these wall college. The shot getting thinking what is happening. You know that should be. Has she worn today. Thing that said anything particularly new. Yes just kind of an ongoing thing. I think that draws generally wide open came. I'm actually looking at it. And then thinking the winner is going to come from. Coco vandeweghe versus mahela. Bird s key. I think van way could win the tournament of just going out on a pump there Identify what it is. I i think hardcore shut that semi so you can just sing for some reason it could. It could just come together. I was achieving. this was clay. You completely writer is a hardcore look. Murray brisk because she she got to the final. Didn't she and lost to kazakina in philip of but we'll have to see but being shot i'm sure she got to the doubles final with leeann. Certain she'll be going to mexico either but Yeah there's another debate is net wildcards but yeah loza. Tennis happening this coming week. Federal back in action. Let's not perhaps this is what you think. 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Top Eights: SIXTEEN most dramatic Wimbledon moments from the last decade countdown - part 1!

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Top Eights: SIXTEEN most dramatic Wimbledon moments from the last decade countdown - part 1!

"Hello Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to the passing shot tennis PODCAST BY FANS. I'm Joe I'm came and today our top aides. We're counting down the most dramatic moments from the last decade at Wimbledon. Seats. Gentlemen, thank you. and. Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the passing shot. This weekend would have marked of course women finals weekend, so what better time to reminisce and think about some of the most dramatic moments from the championships over the last decade came I've got my I've got my strawberries and cream of got my joker. Pim's and yeah, you looking. We're GONNA. Do Little little countdown yet. We are got some Robinson's to go with my with Alpo cost today because I can't find the payments to the back of my cupboard somewhere. But yeah, we've decided that actually. We normally debate moments boat. Many movements from Wimbledon over the past decade that we were kind of looking back through them. We all just H is just know enough say we're kind of doing this in teapot Sixteen. Tell you to, but we're just GONNA cut you the first eight day on and see how. So many to kind of two three. I'm also mentioned as well I. May my all whites as well summer, and getting into kind of like getting into the the women, the Wimbledon Spirit and Yes listeners, thanks for facts again in touch this. We put out to ask you. What are some of your dramatic moments from the uniform cade and we really appreciate you getting in touch. Who knows maybe you'll maidment will appear on the list, but yes, we will, of course say caveats. This is our list. This is purely our opinion. We think it's a pretty good list. There are some moments that you will be familiar with, but we think there are some vitamins I feel that have been you know maybe not. You might not be as familiar with, but yeah, let's get. Let's get into it starting a number sixteen in our countdown, and it's one I guess you know for British fans is a very a memorable I will say a fairytale story where we him back to Twenty-six. On its Marcus Willis and His run from you free. Pre would qualify to qualify to the main draw. To play Roger Federer. Is this more of a Fairytale Jolan Peter Cold winning Wimbledon in the film that we discussed on our lots podcast. Possibly say yeah. I feel like made some of our listeners from like ABC's might not even know of this story. They might even have never heard of Marcus Willis. British fans probably happen until two thousand sixteen. And Yeah. He came through the qualifying say. He was ranked down at like seven, hundred and seventy two in the world. Qualified One always marched and qualifying obviously. And then came up against recalled this baron case of I. Think he's Lithuanian in the first round, beat him. which she data alone is kind of pre. Wow, considering his ranking and the disparity between between the t pies and then. Who Does he then face in the second round, nee wombat reporter federal himself say oversee. That was going to be prime on sensical. And I guess teacups, isn't it? It's kind of like Oh. Marcus got through the second round. So annoying. He's paying federal. He could have a had charges against someone else, but on the other side is the actually if he's going to get through to the second round for like probably the only time in his career, he might as well Gad parents on Sundays go play unites the greatest champion. Wounds ever seen. Yeah. I, be the. The second camp I think if I'M GONNA. Go Out I. Want to go out in style and you know what better way to to go out. To have to have? Time, one of the greatest cross players of all time across across from you of from the net I think the story for me remarkable because the the the ingrained image I have in my head of Marcus Willis is. Is actually before this it wasn't. It's not baby. It was he was on like. He was like on a challenge tour event, and he had like a can of coke and a malls Baugh. One of his matches and Clemente to is like I think the commentator coming here. It was basically called him Kaufman for from South Park. and was like is this. Is this guy for real? Is The guy really heavy like? A cat of kind of self drake. Y-, you know tennis by the challenge, Tour and It just shows think it shows you the just the. It was just crazy the way he went from this sort of you know position where he wasn't really kind of know. Yes, he was talented, but I think he was really applying himself. It shows you I think it's a story that shows you that. If you do apply yourself, incredible things can happen and. You know, he went from literally like. Fee, Butts Four coaching is. Club. Thirty pounds of our lessons. To Yes said. Roger Federer, thank you very much. Yeah, I remember the time the story about how he was kind of. Coaching legally in that you know. He wasn't really actually playing that Martin. He turned to other things within tennis to get his income. At, I remember as well you know. I think the first few months of that year he he had only one something like four hundred dollars or something ridiculous from from prize money say just think will a big Said into his income like second round price on. It wouldn't debate and I think these things for these supplies like that didn't come along very often is literally wants to blame. Mean you might be a player ranked around seven hundred. Never get an option to buy this so I think he just made the most severe, and like he came onto I. Think the Wimbledon highlight show that's been on in the UK the other day. You know he's overseas still really like happy and grateful for this opportunity in this segment, and I think actually it's struggled quite a bit after it. Because, I guess, the idea is that you've had this experience, and then you want to move on, and it's an upwards, and then actually it's Kinda. Go back to just playing features and Chehalis. Game Bats Local coaching was probably quite difficult to deal with because she'd be comparing to let this amazing experience that you had. So I guess it probably also poses challenges as well, but if you look at this moving on his eight, it was remarkable and actually the actual match against Federer. He didn't do too. Badly I think he got bagels in the set, but he came back in one about seven games of things, so it was perfectly respectable, or not I think the crowd will. Very. Appreciative of. His efforts. Yeah. I think I remember when I was watching that match. I was like. Had already that I sat I. Mean we're talking? We're the second row over booed. Add. It felt like an exhibition atmosphere. You know the idea, the. Roger Federal could come up against. A play light marcus with us in the second round. It just felt. Like to be true and I think you know it was. It was kind of if I remember that feeling very exhibition, and in a point where he what the I guess he what is first. Gabe and it was like the floors. I was. Glad. It wasn't like just like a either. He wasn't just like going novelty game of Roger Federer. Yeah, he did he did. I think kind of overcome. Maybe the the nerves and potentially the say, try paying on court to really kind of. Test test at times. Federa- and I know there's that great. I think it was very to like point of the tournament he did that. He had like a think he. Yeah, it was a great I think they showed that on the highlights recently and I mean it is. You can't help but smile because it was like a amazing logo Federer and news just yeah, it was Kinda. I might be leasing have I can still come up with something. Marvelous like that say. Yeah. I think Osa while this is kind of just talking about the next grounds I'm that stage basically USA, but this is exactly the thing hats big thing now that they've got rid of qualifying. Fool the USA from which is such a shame because today's stories that we love to watch an hair about. It gives spotlight players. That would normally never. Get talked about ready say it was obviously just one of these stories to cherish especially for British tennis, fans and In a just remarkable ready, but yeah I think. I get more of easy, not just in British grads it's. Heartwarming Stories. It does feel like when they do happen. Gross, gross core and the. Uniqueness, so being on gross call like lends itself to these sorts of bereavement. Swear you know if you really good on across court, you can certainly play way above your ranking. You know the fact that he had fallen to wall seven hundred seventy by the start of women. It just shows you that if you are really really good on the surface. Right almost kind of rankings out the window. The fact that he ran, Kissy was I think he was kind of around fifty or in the world, and I think you have to face it in straight-sets. Just shows you think what say match was a magical about playing on grass corn. Championships it can, it can really elevate. It can really elevate your game and. It can take. It can take paces the you you might not have got to. Be on a different surface, he I think leveler and someplace is just really hate girls and don't dwell on it. It'll say I'm not sure if Barack as as we would be considered one of those guys I didn't think say. Interesting as well, he beat 'em Ripley in the final round of qualifying. I think marks, police say. This was back in like four years ago, so it wouldn't be the same pay. He's been recently. Yeah, really, that was also very good. Win Say Yeah I mean this is a great movement I think to kick off our less JOE and. With with that will, we'll move onto our next to think. which again is I think a lot of people perhaps wouldn't know about. Maybe ever would have forgotten about and that as The spots a bit niche, but Yaroslav shredders golden set. Against Sarah Lerone. In Two thousand twelve, so this was the remarkable. Feats of a player winning every single point of the festival, obviously twenty four straight points in array, which really doesn't happen very often in tennis I think the only previous player to have done this before at the bar was someone I'm not sure I've never heard of this person. Correct me listeners if he's a very famous player, Bill Scanlon. A. Tournament in Australia in Nineteen, eighty three an offer him. It was on each vetiver. He managed to achieve a golden set in tennis. At least professional tennis oviously. Park some of my I've done A. Count Really. Yeah I think I think to this day. This Godin set is the only golden set to have happened at in a main draw at a Grand Slam, which makes it you know it's a pretty unique distinction and I think what amazes me again about two is. Was I think she was getting into the match against Ronnie's world number. Sixty Five Rodney was the tenth see. She just got the fine of the French Open around. It was. I think it was the same year. Wasn't it two thousand twelve when she'd go to that French final. It's it's one of those things where you. If you're a spectator, you're watching it. You don't expect to Tennessee to lose. Lose the first set in fifty minutes. But yeah it was Yeah, it's just like a little a little piece of history. Isn't it and I, what was fascinated cut of research for this was shut down in two. Thousand six. was very close to achieving the golden set, she rattled off twenty three straight points against Amy Fraser in the last sixteen Memphis, but she lost the next point, so she was really. disappointed. But. She went onto. Lose the match, so she went onto least match one six six love six love. Absolutely bizarre. That's a crazy scoreline to dominate so much in the first set me like. Is a one point and to get double. Bagel what was going on with that well Mike God. Yes right about obviously likes to completely make this. A is saying that she made it six shades before, but yeah the wooden. Round against Ronnie and she hit four aces and fourteen witness say if anyone was at that match, they might be walked out quite seat. I think at the the change of men's between the sets thinking well. This is one way traffic I'm going to get out of their own. Maybe they'd stayed to see if she could. Make, a golden match because imagine Y- magic. She done it again. It's mad. War I. Think this is like the complete opposite to like. Giannis is the nickel by seconds of that we're. GOING TO BE BREAKS WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT A. Sixty, fifty, eight or whatever this? Nicole Win Twenty four points in I pay fast sat in the back. And the I love the fact, the chevaux on twitter set. Off to the she said today I laid a golden egg, so that was her way of describing, go and set. She's Kuda are laid a golden egg. I suppose also the tournament organizers. If there was rain forecasts, they'd be like. Yes, this is what we need. We need to quit his matches ever. schedule. All organizer was like. Whatever the situation, where it's like not enough time this fading light. Get me shred of. Because I'll tell you this. I mean Sarin Roddy I'm just thinking. She's not name for like the greatest service she she's probably quite easy to break, and she's probably not the most comfortable on girl stops. Issues. Will mcclay call which is more of a doubles especially, his doubles expert. Wonder what it felt like, it must have been quite demoralizing. Iranian and half and say I'm sure she's quite pleased to be sort of in the history books. In some way fats, but yeah, it's just one of those things you didn't. Do you guys think about this, but it's just nice day when these things happen. They School Board stories that we love say much. Let's be. Let's move on to our next number. Fourteen number fourteen on our list and we're GONNA. Go back to two thousand sixteen and again it's another British and tree, and it's Heather Watson and her partner. Continent. Forget Henry continents or a Henry Continent winning the mixed doubles at Wimbledon in two thousand, sixteen, which. If for me. The reason is on this list. Because this was like this is not a very. Aiken established mixed doubles path. This was You know. This was a felt like a very scratch pairing I read in the buildup. They only got together after an introduction from the former British play Chris Eaton I love. How like mixed doubles? Teams Cup about like for like Oh, by the way job to she. would be a pit bull like scientific bob well. Whatever flakes I mean, however you get together I think it tends to be these sorts of random bearings, Gordon and wind surprise titles like this I'm. I'm sure Chris. Eaton is very pleased himself avenue, but yet like this I just remember it being such a nice way of ending the championships, because see the mixed doubles final is the lost street played. And it was Kinda like I'm ready well to get to the final. That's great that she's on it, but then to actually go all the way and and to win. The title is fabulous and oversee. What's. She's had a heart breaks that we're more than she does. It was lovely that she's. She's walking away with title. Many British well, she's actually the any female British to one Grand Slam title. Of any form in last however many years, I think I'd be correct in saying. Yes million the most in recent history and I think as you said she we had. The has had heartbreaks of women, and you know we. We'll come onto them, but. In this tournament. Competition, she she had three match points in the first round against Anna. Quebec and she ended up ended up losing. I think it was a match. That went over like three days because of writing and. You know she. Credit touch she would've had to. Pick herself backer and you know. She went from a very low point. I guess at the very start of the tournament. My she would have had. Vam Bishen to maybe get like the second week for example to the very end of the championships where she was lifting the mixed doubles crown. Yeah exactly and I know say are the tight. Henry Constan. Now, think of as quite an established player actually at the time he had never been built in the second round. Eddie doubles an innocent Islamic for so this might have kind of kickstarted his his. Resurgence to the top of the Douglas Game because off today, so I think he he went on to win. We certainly want to amend stubble slamming I think he's one of the world's final say. Looking back ups I was surprised that she the that's time. He himself wasn't really. An established doubles fly. They really were base kind of. Just walk outs and. Interestingly they were given up luck quite early on. Because I t rounds will walk cavers. End Up playing. Three matches and I think you only have to win. Five in the mixed doubles, so they would have any played three to win the tool if I'm correct but. I'm not trying to take away anything from victory. I'm sure that. I'm sure that did how nightly, but they backed up a year later because they got to the final again. But, they lost Jamie Murray in an Martina Hingis say we'll allow the they say, but yeah obviously. It was kind of a dream for heather, and it was just such a nice partnership. Know they always very smiley. Happy on call and. I think you know like Jamie Murray Shade with with Yank. Vigil those years before. When you see these partnerships and call gelling really well together and I just having fun as well as getting down to work. You know that's really nice to see as as a fan. Do you think just thinking about to Chrissy to defend key after the tournament? Do you think he asked for a finders fee? Commission Commission for the title. was like. I really should've liked. said. Of. Yeah well, as maybe maybe we should go into like decent. Analysis on he would be compatible doubles partners, and then take some commission out of it but yeah, absolutely great story I think obviously the makes doubles. It's kind of one of those competitions which does throw up these surprises and nuts why? I love it so much and. Another thing that we won't be saying that. She at the US ape this year and his name mixed double say we have these moments so much in two thousand and twenty. Let's move onto our next moment. I'm not really sure what to discuss. This one's Joe because sir. We're talking about well. No just one much, but several here and not as the head of early round upsets for Well we've put out but mostly concerns. And one match the federal law squarely on. I. Space the most famous one would be rougher against Lucas Russell in two thousand twelve. which was a that was second round, wasn't it? Yeah, second round match I was at the Abu at the match. Resale so I came in about halfway through. And all I remember was. The crowd was I felt obeying for Russia's blood. Like intense, they were so like vocal. It was just sort of. Surprise this guy was just like. Displaying like a barrage of groundstrokes dominating Raffarin, seemed on the back foot in. He took the fourth set and went into a fifth, but I was kind of a praying and hoping he would come three, but it just wasn't bay. And that was I think. Up to that point and Rafa the last. How many years it made, the women would invite or one F. Not Thousand Six. This was suddenly a really big show that he was losing in the second round. Yeah. It was It was a big show yeah I. Guess The question I have. If you were that, you know I think. The question have a lot of these early upsets of happened. Know you've talked about Rousseau Dustin Brown Stevenson's. Twelve. It's. Feel like these players who are having you know that that one moment that match of that life against on across core and it's bringing them up level, or do you think? This was more Nadal just you know I guess. Tie It from the French. Chapman hasn't really had a lot of time on across core, and is not an as playing. Level below. What we would have expected I think. Yeah, it's a bit of both to be honest with the obviously, we know rougher COMPLA- extremely well on gross as you know, has his record before turning twelve shade, and not an also in the last couple years. I think he did say like he struggled for a number of years. I think because of his knees, and like the lay bounce. I think he wants to draw attention to kind of physical things, but I think that was an element of thought that The wind was a bit, but certainly these these guys like Russell played the match of his life. Same with Steve. Dorsey, and I think. As it went all kind of saw rougher be leasing in some the early rounds and I thought loan. Hey, the option you know and I think yeah. It was about four years in a ray. That rougher didn't get burdened the fourth-round. I sort of kind of east to him inevitably bowing out early. Which is why actually the last getting to light the semi finals last year it was I. Think Fabulous, rougher live. Compared to what he was doing in two, thousand, twelve, thirteen. You know, take seventy dollars. But certainly I think tell you think any of the players that beat him Russell dossiers I think in the next match they lost to I'm ever opinion. Most say I. Think they were able to kind of continue that full. When back off kind of flash in the PAN movement as well. You say Russell Brown Dausi's. I feel Dossey, says the one out that because Dustin Brown on his day on across. We've seen that he's almost. You would say I would argue. He's almost across specialist. We really hear a lot of him. I. Guess, Y- of. The rest of the but one on the Cross court. He is a very. He is a very handy player, so I can see can see an upset their russell as well I mean I. Just always I always remember that match. He's serving was absolutely electric. He just wasn't. It wasn't literally giving Rafeh a chance to get in the rally because he was hitting. You know I I've off the best up, Sessa, but. Phil's Punks, not really a sort of imposing play or you can. You can on the back foot from star the point. Yeah, he was very sort of light and nimble came into the I. Think I think maybe that year. Referee genuinely was struggling a lot more with with injury. I can't remember now so if they will blur into one I, think and. Remember to you. Because I'd like the. For the dossey spot, outgoing prime seats and was like Oh. This is why I wanted to happen. But I think May and Mike. friends obvious way. We were just kind of like. Big Sisal round. It's happened again. but I think that yet twenty thirteen when rougher lost to cease. What was kind of incredibly surprising was in the second round a session Roger Federer lost. And for me, this was. Probably, even more shock than yeah. The RAFFLE zoll speakers. Federal to lead in the second round at Wimbledon is something that I'd never thought I would. See My lifetime and I remember watching. The end of its Henman Hill and I was just labs the golf because ski. He was ranked hundred sixteen in the world. Chick federal out in four sets and. I don't think anyone saw about coming. It was it was very. I think is one of the biggest ups plane, and simply I think is one of the biggest upsets of all time. At a at a Grand Slam I think that's what makes me kind of surprise. I feel like this match has been I feel like it's been forgotten about because i. you know we always focus on all of Federer's. Chievements I feel that we forget the you know. He always lost here. He lost it to stock off skied in two thousand, thirteen and I was watching. The highlights earlier and I do think this was A. I think federal gang for a slum by just think Stokowski on his. Just Know something happened to him. He I think he and his press covers off, so you about the performed a miracle or like? He had he was paying a level of tennis the. Here's tiny level of tennis. Maybe it was even he even surprised himself with you. Know what he what? He was doing what you know what he had done and. It's just yeah. I mean for me actually federal versus Stokowski was actually kind of trump's. All of the the raffle losses, the me in terms of drama and you know. How dramatic was that? The I think it was federal as earliest Grand Slam exit since losing the first round of the you know the French Open in two thousand and three, and it's no against. against an up and coming out of arrival. You, know Nick. Dangerous floater it's. It's such a stock of ski he. The you look his results. He's a CL-. He's a very solid player. Who you know gets to the third round in. I think he's got to the third round in all of the grandson in singles. But you know he's not. He's just very solid you, do you? You expect him to have so of weapons that couldn't do. Do Do do the damage to take out a roach federal railroad. Booted, yeah I think it was just like the much of his life I, just remember he was at the net all the time, and just taking everything away from federal, and I think as well I didn't. If that was a rain delay two in the match I think I'm sure it was a wet day. I remember the clouds quite dull could, and that was a sentence sort of eerie nece and. It was almost like this match was just like electrifying quite Dole kind of. Environment I kind of my rising memory, but I may be wrong, but yeah. It was just sort of wow, I. It may be a bit better by. Having. I was like well. They're just dropping like flies now and obviously, this is the year that Andy. Berry goes on to win and say. I'm sure him a neighbor. We're quite pleased as well. See Federal Dome out so early. But? Yeah, absolutely cut. I think as she said a not. Just Wimbledon is one of the biggest shocks. Around and actually UNAI Ferris had a few more surprising losses in slam since there and not not so early as a second round, but. At this time they thirteen this was he was the defending champion and just seemed kind of untouchable touch say. Absolutely incredible stuff. So Joe. We mentioned Watson's break earlier on when we talked about her. Winning the mixed doubles. Overcoming that having some joy at Meudon at last, and actually if we rewind a year before she wanted her mixed doubles title. To Two Thousand Fifteen I think most people while I hate that makes people would be to remember this match because it was a third round match. Heather Wilson Against Serena Williams, and she was quite remarkably. T points from beating Serena. And on call I mean I remember watching this and it was just. I just I don't think I've seen had the watson plays so well in her whole life This would would've been absolutely have. A greatest victory, but she came everyday Christ, but couldn't quite get over the finish line. I think when I was kind of. That match up. I was thinking I was actually thinking Watson's going to get eaten alive here. of She would do. Very well to win a set, but you know I think I came home from came from hearing from wherever that day on on the TV and I. Remember Seeing Yeah, the Watson was set and she'd moved. I think she was moved three love in the decider analyst like. What's going to? Since going to do this why? Don't. I didn't I didn't think that she was going to like I. Don't i. don't really associated. Have like blow blowing a lead and. I didn't I didn't think even though he shed serene or on the other side of the net, the fact that I think things she just fed off the energy of the British crowd and. For Me I. was I think that was the thing that was going to get a three? That was GONNA be but. We all know we know how it ended up Serena. Williams came through an one and she went on to win. Her Sixth Wimbledon crown she, she defeated. Muka Reuther in the final, but this was a I think. This was a real skaff higher in in terms of kind of I, think she had had serene progress, but she had had a real scare, and we when we think about you know the great of the game kind of going on onto the court Wimbledon and As he said it is so. I felt like the crowd will bang for blood. They were all over. Say Pro Watson and it was. I didn't care who's on the other side of that. It could be the greatest. Of all time I'm still going to cheer for I'm still GONNA check, Watson well I mean even if he wasn't British the Wimbledon crowd absolutely love. Eight nine and underdog I mean head wasn't yeah, she she lost the first set so easily, and he saw thought okay. This is part of the course, but the fact that she kind of. Yes suddenly turned around and went three up in the third-set. Amazing and she actually had a point fall off. and I wonder if if she'd gotten up I. Wonder if that would have made the difference I know. As it happened Rita came back and. I mean it's not like. Have a completely collapsed in Lhasa set six three. She'll sit seven five in the end was Stacey Klay say she cheats, and they should be proud of our efforts, and you may not be, too. She wasn't to crush softwoods, but I mean we ought to be thinking what could have been? And I think. I Have Watson suddenly. This season has come back into. She's played a south back into into form. She's looking for me. She's kind of looking like the old had. was just you know when all is said and done? You know we're not looking back on her career. And her defining Maimon is losing to Serena Williams I think. Our achievements speak for south and yes, this was sort of you know. her on the map in Yosi indeed had to the British public, but She's gone on. I think she's gone onto. She's gone onto satiny I'm a becoming an unimproved tennis player and I think. A match like this. As painful as it might be, a of I think helped helped with that. Specifically I always remember when I was watching this match. Her second serves just absolutely. Like it was like. It was almost like a free widow. I remember facade with an FA Serena Williams. I wonder if like for example, she looks matches synthetic. You know this I. Need a better second. Sir, because otherwise. The top players just GonNa Absolutely. Climb all over it and. I said I think this was kind of a cute, a painful lesson, but certainly a worthwhile lesson to. Figure, OUT HOW DO I. Close the gap between myself in the top players. I think these sorts of big matches certainly highlights. Discrepancies and disparities and make things have been more obvious and. Is a lot more international gaze on you as well rather than just dying out. Eleven, or what have you? Let's talking of painful defeat, sage, Joe! We going to discuss. Oh I just eleven. I wouldn't. At the sort of thought that this player never. Quite managed away, and Wimbledon and I would. If I could yeah, if there was one result I could go back and change like I would be this macho thing. Interesting! Yeah, I mean I know I'm a rough offended I before rougher I was a quite a big fan of certain it when Buddha and and He 'cause he reached the finals in two, thousand, four, two, thousand five. I remember chairing the him then and then obviously. Raffle kind of came along and was in. Every final for the next three years and say come two thousand nine products back in the final. Days is injured. And I always this third time lucky for robotic, but but it wasn't to be an OH sixteen. Fourteen in the fifth set is just so like I. I did the right words over. It was just such. Such a dramatic day watching that in him to come to place an lease just. Oh. Yeah it was I mean yeah, just thinking about it. You Know I. Think you know the the the story. Of Andy Roddick is. He's got I. Think One Grand Slam to for USA, even two thousand three. You look at his game when you think that is absolutely perfect for a the courts and He, you know fundamentally he should have. He should have more Grand Slam titles. He would have had more Grand Slam titles if Federal wasn't on the you know the the on the other side of the net when he was getting there and. I think this as you said is. This is probably the most painful of of the defeats the fact that he paid so much effort. And he'll sixteen fourteen in the fifth I think. I was reading somewhere. The only time his serve got broken was for the matching and. That must be very. That must be very straight. You very frustrating. To. To come so close. And yet to come so close said kind of get over line. Is. You think you think the time yet, you just you just think you'd have a little bit I know Roger. Federer game. I know what he's going to do. How do I combat it and you felt like potentially this was this. Was that moment? I remember just thinking how Jammie Hetero Wall Sina if managing. To kind of scrape through this I'm ready, because yeah, the first four sets. Federal one his two sets on tiebreaks. On rotate was the. Cheap break conserve in the festivals at say. They were extremely. Extremely comfortable and seven, then I think, rotate had some break points in the fifth set to Gone Nine A., and then obviously said for an oversee didn't manage to take as and then as it went on and on and on, he sought slacking crucial break, but I just eat I in a way. It's three Kinda paradise lowest as final with with federal naval because Navy. Novak One overtired breaks in that match lost share kind of. You kind of thought federal was probably the one that should've worn or maybe. I what to say. But he felt he. Obviously had championship points in that much as well, and this is kind of reverse, or is the wadden in two thousand nine that managed to come through when all rotate. It was the better player in this match and. Shoot should've one. Oh I remember federal gang out. What are those embossed jackets with like a gold fifteen on? Though is just rubbing rubbing in a that you know he's. He's wanted again and Roddick's left with nothing. I think that's what makes it so dramatic. Is there were there were moments in this match where if Ruddock had capitalized? You would've thought he could go on to win and I'm. I was watching as actually. What should cheap I like earlier at no point in that second set tiebreak? I think he had like a backhand high backhand volley if he puts it away, I think he would have gotten to think he would have gone to sets up. I think you had a set point in that second set and. It was. It was essentially. That, that was the that was the match that if he had gone to sets up. You. Could have been a different story. But I think I think when if I. If you talk down the road I think he's kind of a bit like you know. It would have been great to have more Grand Slams, but you know I got to play. With some of the greatest greatest of all time, share court with. The the great. The greatest of all times and You know I. It's just yeah, it's just not in Eero. Ephedra could could dominate. Yeah, he said he one of the the generation that have have missed out because of that had. been he's paid his par, and obviously he has these memories, and hopefully he's looking at it from a positive perspective, but I just remember thinking. Oh, come on, this is. It's going to be a member. No all sporting stories are. Written in a fairy ending, so it was not, but yeah. I remember this. Walden just absolutely stands out stands out in the memory joe what we got next. What's number ten on our on our list on our countdown? So number ten. We are going to go back to the ladies final in twenty thirteen, and we having a debate about this about what what was more dramatic. Was it the fact that we had a Sabine Lisicki versus Marian bodily final, which you wouldn't have probably expected at the start of the the championships was the bodily winning the title, or was it Sabine Lisicki. Getting. To the final. Cases Onerous for all three. I think I would say I. Think for me. Maybe the most dramatic was. I think it was just the final in general because you know bodily. I think your body's almost unfairly. Look on in terms of. This I think this specifically this like this. Grand Slam win because. We were talking earlier about the The the caliber of players that she faced on know on route to the final. They it was a very caught. It was a very kind draw. Is that classic sort of you can only beat. What's in front of you and to win Wimbledon? She had to go out there seven times in seven matches which he did say. All of them in straight-sets so I think it's unfair to. You know to think he almost be if there are people out, there think Oh yeah but. It might be kind of tainted a little bit, but I i. don't I. Don't I don't agree with that because as I, said she, she still had to win seven matches and. You know she. She and she did it very. Very dominantly. As well about people maybe often forget that she had reached a Wimbledon final before back in two thousand seven. And she lost to Venus in in that final and I. Think most famously from the. Tournament in ninety seven was when she beat Justine Henin in the Siamese and. I remember Pace Brosnan was at the match and she. I remember her looking about how she. Couldn't lose if James Foden this watching. Rebel and the media. It was quite funny. Say Like we have to Bosley credit. She had history unfold. Wimbledon say it's a seventy. Get yourself back into the final six years later and do it without dropping a set and then to Whitton Com unconvincingly in that final. I think was was very very impressive at A. The looking very nervous she. Wasn't able to play the tennis that we had seen her play previously in the tournament when she'd beaten Serena I think in the cold finals. Bosley was just very. Very solid and she did what she needs to do. And I think remotely as well like of see. Bosley retired off to this much basically didn't change. She couldn't go on any longer with kind of injuries that she had, but this was a have forty seven, her forty seventh Grand Slam tournament which I think is the most absurd for female player. A number of of grandsons played before she winning Grand Slam title say. It'd been a long time coming and so I think as a sort of story line and it was. Like gratifying to say that she finally she's gotTa cross the finish in. Do Wimbledon. I I'm sure that just the icing on the cake compared to the other slams, it's it it does have the extra-special Edge is interesting because I think both these players are very. The that career is over, and you know I think that you know you back their legacy in. Both these players that legacy lies Wimbledon and I think particularly philosophically you could out and it's. The her I think her crowning achievement was beating Serena Williams and that for me was. That was a big moment and I wondered whether maybe the media were thinking going into the final achy. lizzy is a favorite. She beat Serena in on re, whereas Boston is not really a face, anyone and maybe that that. New York is a favourite, the bodily almost kind of helped to just get on with the game whereas maybe. I don't know. Maybe Eliza key felt like maybe she felt. The kind of pressure may be from the media or the fact that you know she'd beaten Serena. She would have needed to. Back up to go on and win the title. I was looking kind of at that tournament is very funny because you look at the players in the quarterfinals and I genuinely feel like anyone could win. It I, mean Lazinski canopy advanced scar. Our Sloan Stevens Bahrain Bosley and ver- inflict Kuenz. On the bottom half you'd you'd who is kind of expecting. Maybe a converter advance go fine opens and yeah. It was a very very. It was very surprising final. A was actually when you read out his name. He think what. What did Radinsky Day to get through to the final, because she's got to the final the before this. Would've already one. Once by that and so yeah, like surprising, but it seven. It just goes to show you know the I mean we said this before you know the women's gave his is generally. More unpredictable, and that's for me like often. The most fun thing to follow is women's tennis because they're say much more opportunity for these kind of stories to kind of emerge and I think Bosley was always unfairly overlooked. I think people. aways kind of overlooked had talent and how good she actually was an. I think we've seen. That's what we've session. Pundits in the media making. A radius remarks about her and. I think she's so of Kobe hard lot at all the time, but yeah, this moment is out there i. mean it was such a? Such a heart warming thing to see if I ne- kind of get Anita, after forty, seven, hundred seventy basically. Is. Never give up may happen. On vied volunteer because Lazinski. Advance in the semifinal was actually a bit of a Classic Zeki came through that six, four, two, six, nine, seven in the third set, say Ron. One of those players She's probably in that category of some of the best players who've never one. Who never won a Grand Slam? Maybe she was probably in that semifinal thinking. This could be my moment. bodily kind of came through. Your bodily came through. Maybe advance. Good took it out of the key in that semi that made it a little bit easier. I think that's probably the knowing seven almost semi. That's law of energy. Isn't it to draw of time with and then to be in your first grandson final it days later. That would be quite a lot to. I know how how they managed cut. If I think absolute barrel of Nerve Safai, even so much stepped out onto a school, but Let's! Let's finish up today Joe with our nine Sir maidment. Say next episode will be doing one to eight so eight to one. So end today we're going to kind of. Gave took British success from that glorious summit. That was two thousand, twelve a and we had a yeah. Men's doubles champion. Johnny Murray and his lovely Danish partner Freddie Nelson, who is one of my personal favorites. And I guess I was this victory. That kind of. Got Me following following Freddie knows not she, because this was again as complete kind of scratch pairing. They will wildcards. They went on to win. The men's doubles I. Mean This is kind of pizza co? Isn't it but just? I mean if you just look at kind of. It's just today any Thaib. Toward Wildcard is a great story isn't. Is it, yeah. I think like Johnny Mary like he was due to play with someone else, and then they weren't actually highly ranked enough to get into the tournament, say he. Hooks up with Freddie Nelson. They go wild called. Johnny Murray kind of Journeyman you know had never really had any kind of notable victories I think ever I think his you. The prize money oversee from winning Wimbledon doubles dramatically on have probably exceeded. To get paycheck for two weeks of work. was about the same as his whole career earnings to date. But I just they beat the Brian's in the semifinals, and then in the final itself they beaten instead into cow. Say Various top-notch doubles pairings. They want it six three in the fifth set in the final at I. Just remember it was just such a surprising storyline and Fritz Bay British player as well. He probably not head of A. I just thought it was fantastic and I. Think they were the fest was the Best British? Man to reach? The doubles final since like nineteen sixty. Again a very long time coming the loss British men's doubles champions of back in Nineteen ninety-six. I've been bonus points. If anyone could name them Patrick, Hughes and Raymond Sucky Yeah that we gay. Say. I've got a little. Question and for listeners as well so. You are correct. Johnny Mary was used to compete with someone else. At Wimbledon. A, it wasn't meant to be Freddie News to begin with it was it was someone else I've never? I've never heard of this person Canadian. Canadian I'm. GonNa. Know this I Canadian by the name of a deal. Shamasuddin! Of, him I have. I've just seen his name in double stores I wouldn't littler. I have seen the name. I mean I. Just think Oh, say because Freddie, no said. You know obviously Denmark of Caroline Wozniacki, but there are literally like not many Danish male tennis by is the people know about say. Quite famous endemol key is that most. Proficient tennis export. I think. I'll always remember after this like Freddy Nielsen Coming Out, and basically saying almost denouncing doubles and be like I want to focus on I. think singles Korean and that literally when nowhere and I always felt like maybe just to doubles while he did, they did carry on playing together, I think them because they. They got to the world tour finals. Oversee this shape by winning Wimbledon I think they. To the semi's. They just left the round. Robin say. I remember in subsequent Wimbledon's time I. I would always watch Freddie and in the doubles, I'd always make sure I was like at the cool to watch him. I think he played with I I think the year after I think they did play together to try and defend their title, but they lost in the second round. And then after that he had different different partners. But, interestingly Freddie noses grandfather Kurt Nilsen. Reached the Wimbledon final in nineteen, fifty, three, nineteen, fifty, fifty-five say for a long time. He was a power. Need just known as Kurt's grandson. Say obviously in the Nilsen family. Tennis is being. And Lifelong sports seeing that blocked. So, it's just quite funny that he managed to go with the way, not she winning there wooden. Title. Opiate no in the singles, but in doubles. Yeah for me this just such a nice again. Noise storyline British success. Random world called winning. And just yeah. I I saw it following both of them kind of after after their victory and. I! Yeah it's been real kind of pleasure, a personal pressure as well as a fan to kind of. To kind of follow the you know well mostly, Freddie, Nelson after after after this victory, we'll have to get on the Poncho. Have a good chance and pick his brains. Let's. Let's see if we can do that, but yeah. Yeah. That's been our list so far from number sixteen down to to number nine. What do you think so far? Do you think we've missed any MISSED ANYTHING OUT OF WE? If we go to in the right order to think, let us know Of course you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple podcast on spotify. Wherever you listen to us. Make sure you click that. Subscribe Button and yet if you do enjoy listening to us on Apple PODCASTS, make sure to leave us a rating and comment yet, and you can also follow us on social media of course on twitter, instagram and facebook at passing shots pot. 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Baltic, and Balkan People Day they. All teams that place is. Car Fight. This war is the difference between t the Baltics like Estonia Latvia and Lithuania say much further north than. Of Cool. Yeah choker fe okay I'll brush up on my geography. For the next Adria cut when it returns pleased. When it to. If it. Turns.

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E53: The view from Alex Willis window

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E53: The view from Alex Willis window

"Hello this is unofficial partner and welcome. I'm Richard Gillis Willis is having a very good career Chevy strategy and execution of comes content and digital the All England club otherwise known as Wimbledon. So we went to S W nineteen before lockdown to talk to Alex for some careers advice and to ask two of our favorite questions. Can we get a tick it? Which might mean for twenty twenty one these days. And what does she do for the other fifty weeks? The when there's not one of sport's greatest events taking place outside our office window planning for Wimbledon like planning a wedding for half a million people that last for two weeks so anyone planned a wedding Nice what that feels like. You'll notice that we've been putting out more focused recently in response to a large jumping listeners. During the current lockdown this week we've done one every day and we'll do the same next week when it was settles down a bit. We'll look at. How many pocus we do whether we go back to one a week or whether there's an appetite for more perhaps three week each with a slightly different focus either way more than anything. We WANNA to be useful and to do that. We need your help to tennis. What's good and what isn't to that end. Get in touch via email on the site or on twitter and linked in and go to the website and sign up to our weekly newsletter. Where you'll get everything that we're doing and a little bit more I guess. In the meantime stay safe and listen to podcasts. Alex Wilsey we are looking looking out beyond you. Your office into the course for us is fourteen to seventeen. Famous for Marcus Willis in fact if you remember him from a couple of years ago who was ranked seven hundred in the world and came through qualifying and ended up playing Roger Federer. He won his first round match on that court right behind us. Seventeen and do you do when you sit here and just sort of in a garbage. It's quite quite tell him for you. Is it the? It's Lovely Cup of tea. I look out the window I actually don't many of us. Don't work from this building. So we're sitting in the in. The main Wimbledon offices are where we are year round. I actually work over in the building. We can see behind us. Which is the media center And sometimes run over here for meeting which is interesting trying to get through the sentiment crowds when you're trying to get to meeting and and hopefully asked them help them find the strawberries which is asking for obsessed with stories is over the the the one question and it's it's what do you do for the other fifty weeks of the year when it's when there's not a massive global tournament going on out there that question. I think many of my colleagues would would say that It's second to How easy is it to get tickets in terms of the questions that were asked but it's a very popular question And I think there is this perception that You know because we have a permanent infrastructure. Where in the in the luxurious position of being able to pretty much shut? Everything down closed the gates go and do something else for a bit and then come back and open the gates and everything will just be ready to go again I'm a reality. Is that that and you'll see a little bit of it while you're here hopefully behind you. This is a sort of a working site. Every single day of the year It's a private members club. The members common and use the courts. it's will say we're sitting on top of museum. We run a tool Unprofitably Mace fundamentally look after a brand And we think Wimbledon as a as a tennis tournament which oversee it is but it's will serve a brand that has a role to play In that year round narrative. Whatever that might be so Whatever's going on in the rest of the world but also What we're doing around the environment How we using it tense by young people How a supporting our local communities says. There's sort of day to day delivery. And then of course the planning for the event which someone once said and whoever it was they were Goodwood Smith Planning for Wimbledon is like planning a wedding for half a million people that lost two weeks. So anyone who's planned a wedding nice what that feels like the. What is the Wimbledon brand? I've got an idea of it and oversee brands. People project onto brands their own sort of preconceptions. What what do you think the removing brandies? I think they're very recognizable attributes or the Wimbledon brand which we not. Just we here today. But those who are here before us and those who will be hereafter us have done an amazing job at at protecting and as the traditions that we talk about all the time the the grass courts the white clothing store breeze. We were just talking about store breeze. Pim's picnicking the hill to Q. But the reality is that those traditions Not necessarily the same as they were one hundred years ago and they won't be the same in one hundred years time they've evolved as Wimbledon has evolved. And that's right. That's that's the right thing to do. And so the Wimbledon brand is probably more accurate to say that. It's it's a feeling of of aspiration It's a feeling of A beautiful environment where people come and show off that best And walk away hopefully with a big smile on their face. I think when we talk about the brand that that is what we're trying to create and we use all those different characteristics to help make it mean something to different people. There are people who come in just to see the gladiatorial tennis but there are people who come in just to have the picnic with them Ordered to have a first sports experience with the eight year old And that's something that makes. Bourdon pretty unique is that there is that breadth of appreciation for it. It's interesting about the tradition. Actually because when as you could easily get locked into a sort of nostalgia fest couldn't use it as a brand like when wooden he could always be looking backwards to a to a sort of heyday. That didn't really exist. One hundred percent and actually one of the things that we remind ourselves about all the time is how do you how do you respect the tradition And and use it because it is a strength whilst not being too Held back by it or grounded in it Because his it's not a strength if it doesn't remain relevant and we have worked really hard to find ways to preserve the ethos of all traditions but also acknowledge that there are ones that change. So if you look in our compendium which is a fabled Wimbledon publication You'll see for example that the dates. The finals have changed once upon a time. The men's final was held on a Friday so that there is some some some some of those things that people sort of say well. It's always been this way and the answer is actually probably not true. And it's it's a reflection of how well the event has matured overtime Squirrel from the the twenty twenty. You qualify comes into this cat screens when sport feels like it's locked into traditions and finds it hard then to move its core constituency. Forward innovation is quite hard to sell in that way. Is that something that your wary oversee the core product here. He wouldn't mess with tons of the tournament and in tennis itself but around the edges presumably. That's where you can can sort of move an innovate. Yes I mean. One of our greatest strengths is is our focus so going back to the. What do we do for fifty weeks of the year? We are so privileged that we have that time because it gives us the opportunity to to really dig into what should be being improved on on. What can we do better? And what can we learn from? That's going on elsewhere and other sports that are season on and I've had many conversations with With football and rugby and the NFL almost mutual envy. Where I'm saying I'm so jealous of the amount of product that you have in you can test and change and they're saying I'm so jealous of the time that you have to take a step back and consider and so we definitely feel that losing that ability to focus and trying to diversify our business too much Is a risk but I think the other the other comment I would make is that in that typically British way where we sort of say. Oh we're not very good at this and say you know. Maybe we're not very good at innovating but actually if you look back at Wimbledon's history. There is all sorts of hidden innovation. But it wasn't dressed up as a big change. It was quiet and it was considered The Center court brief and I launched in two thousand and nine was an extraordinary piece of engineering. That people kind of look back on now and think well it was always there and in years to come the number one reef which was opened up in two thousand nineteen. It'll be the same. And so we've we've tried to encourage our internal stakeholders not to talk about tradition and innovation being in conflict with each other on needing to balance the two. But actually it being a bit more of a both end. You can innovate to keep the traditions relevant. You can innovate in in your own in their urine Ryan and you can also be traditional in in your rights and a lot of the work we've done on how we present Wimbledon and how we engage with different audiences has been very much on that that other end of of of innovating. How does this that those sort of this conversation then when you move into a digital content realm which is part of your What's your is there. What's your general approach to that before we get into any specifics. But you know that's a that's an area where which is rapidly evolving and you need to make decisions in terms of where you play. Where don't play them what you do? What's what's what's the general approach to digital. Well I think we first place to start is the. It's just an amazing opportunity. I mean what? What event or brand Fifty years ago wouldn't have loved to have the opportunity to communicate directly with an audience again for an event that only happens once a year on an event that he's relying on core stakeholders to tell its story. it's being the most amazing way of trying to showcase what we think. Wimbledon is all about and the other important aspect to that is a lot of events. Concentrate on The attendee who is coming and they focus on the sale of ticket and then they focus on making sure. That person is going to have a great time when they come. We're in the privileged position where our ticket holders to a certain extent. Look after themselves The demand for the event is is in a a such a place that we're not trying to actively sell tickets the Q. As as part of the browns he was part of the virus under percent but for those people around the world who are never going to get the chance to come here. How do we service them? And how do we give them an experience that is? That's not kid. Them is not going to be as good as being here but house a sense of the next best thing. We have this phrase to know it is to love it. Once you've been here you understand it and you appreciate it. How can we use content? And how can we use all the platforms that are available to us that techniques that exist all the things that we don't even know there to showcase this event in in different ways and and fundamentally help create an audience in that relationship? That personal feeling. What's the so the people outside the sort of the inner concentric circle if you like those fans are never gonNA? Let's get to the outside of that. What do they do they see? When would indifferently? They got the same basic perceptions of the brand or and or how do you communicate to them and why are they relevant in say January or whatever what gives just give us an idea of how you I mean? I think the first thing goes back to the breadth of of what Wimbledon means They see Wimbledon so differently. I don't even think we fully know and this is sort of of the other themes that's going on in the industry at the moment is you know is is understanding your fan and understanding your audience and Doing that going about that in the right way So there are people in in certain parts of the world. Let's take India as an example who love the Britishness of Wimbledon because that fits in with that cultural identity amd they. They love to see the pomp and the circumstance. And if you look it other events like the IP L. Yes done in a completely different way but there's a lot of similarity in in some of the things that we do here the trophy presentation and ceremonies and the royalty and celebrities. But if you go to tennis fans in Brazil even tennis fans in Brazil and say what do you think of Wimbledon? They'd say well. It's very traditional on. Its lots of people in suits. And when you contrast that with the Rio Carnival or the way that the the Rio Olympics took place all the football World Cup and it doesn't appeal to them it doesn't resonate and so we've tried to again not not to What's the word I'm looking for not to kill them not not to try and shea something that isn't true but present a different side to Imboden to that kind of audience so Particularly South America. We talk a lot about the hill. And we talk a lot about the outside courts in the fandom and the passion and we probably spend a little less time talking about central in the royal box. So we've taken quite a bit of time to to understand. Is the primary motivator tennis and is it certain tennis players is it the the sort of history and Heritage Wimbledon? Is it actually that you're just from a certain country and you care about certain player and not play doing well and you just want to follow them or cost? Is the social setting. Is it the fact that David Beckham is? Here is the fact that the Duchess of Cambridge here And we try and play up. Those those different aspects for those different types afoul. It was the the the sort of footprint global sports the global event and But where are the peaks? What where is it really popular outside of the UK so slightly depends which which platforms you're looking at if you're looking at a more traditional areas of consumption if you're looking at Linear TV digital to certain extent very much the UK the US the tennis nations of France. Spain Australia If you're looking at social media Then you suddenly see. India emerge she see China We've tried to be proactive in terms of having a good presence actually a year round presence across the Chinese social media platforms Japan All say certain South American territories. And now you've got these other these other platforms like tick Tock Indo in and where they pop in then get different Age Spreads So I would say that that we're we're at a strongest in Countries around the world where tennis's loved and understood but wear increasingly at strongest where sport and love of heroes within. Sports is understood in again. You see that with India with the IPO and the way that also cricket the way that some of these players just superstars and tennis and Wimbledon has got that to what some of the the is not specific to Wimbledon tennis. This is more broader thing. You say that the digital or the issues around the sports marketing business that we say and talk about what. How do you trust the numbers that are out there because obviously we see a lot of of enormous sports growing up on stories basically and and the numbers that you see of fans and people? Now we're getting to a moment. Where actually are they real? They are they in. What what can you do to try and navigate through that well because that that's something that partners sponsors want to know? But where are you in that sort of question because it's one the everyone is wondering about just into all that as you go beyond the two weeks he'll and bringing it back to work but just in terms of what that what that looks like. How you actually what do you think? Are you ever surprised by the research do you? How do you interrogate it in that way? I think the first thing I would say is that it's up to every sport. Every event as much as they can to try and set their own measures of success and I think sometimes happened is that we've been we've been led to believe that certain things are important so if you went back a few years it was all about views and then all of a sudden everybody sort of tilted and said oh no. It's now about engagement. It's about reactions. And then it sort of changed again and it was about something else and no doubt it will continue to change. And so while you were talking about this thing that you'll particularly proud of the your agency partners spots Media partner whoever it might be say yes but what about this thing and then you sort of say well actually. We don't think that one's important. We think this one is important so I think what the industry is crying out for and this may never happen because it might not be. In the industry's interest is is one standard system of measurement and it might not then be that everyone picks the same measure but at least there is some understanding of how they all fit together. So that would be the first thing I would say The second thing is is also A kind of common understanding of of May Be the same point about measures of success. But of of what you're trying to achieve and just being being very clear in setting that objective. Because we've tried hard here now. I'm bringing it back to to to not sort of say you partner way going to promise you X. percent of this because actually your objective is celebrating your brand celebrating your brand alongside Wimbledon. Then that may look like a certain number. It may look like a different kind of number. It is very difficult to prejudge in some ways. And I know that is a very wishy washy ethereal thing if I'm if I'm a big sponsor Banca car or whatever the category is a Jimmy's is up to them to how they measure success and failures. The this idea that your going to provide all the answers is I always think okay would big rightsholder but quote from rights holders are quite easy to kick only. When you go to conferences. You'll sit there and say all the rights holders don't do this. They can't do that. Well actually is well. I think it's about a collaboration. So it's a common understanding of what whatever the partnership is is trying to achieve and therefore setting a common goal and rather than trading metrics back and forth at each other and saying. Well my one is this a new one is that and how do we get them to meet in the middle? So it it's at some point The other point I was going to make. Is that the reason. This common system of measurement is very difficult at the moment is because there's just a fragmentation of the ways that people engage so even though you may look a peak of what what the Cricket World Cup DID ON TV. Then there's a counterargument if what about on digital and then what about social and I think we need to move to a world where people are looking at Platforms in some kind of way. That was something around the the Olympics the last Winter Olympics where I think discovery was trying to get some kind of sense of this so the viewing figures that they were providing back to the scene also will the other partners involved were not just the TV numbers but also the streaming numbers also the digital engagement numbers. Because that. That's what creates the controversy. Is people sort of saying well. I saw this and use at that and I saw that the BBC I think is obviously is a is a has been a key broke. Us honor. I quite often go on golf. Carts Soccer Iowa. We won't go into that but one of the questions is why the goat why the BBC dropped the open. And you know it's it's continued. Investment in Wimbledon and the way in which the Wimbledon coverage has evolved. I think. He's really quite interesting because has been very innovative and it has what. What's your when you look at the way in which the TV broadcasters treat when wooden is the is the BBC in the middle of the pack is leading. The pack is it. Is it something that others are stealing from or they just? What's the television picture so I mean where with obviously privileged have this historic relationship with the BBC. Came back one thousand years now And one of the things that is is particularly fascinating is how that relationship reflects the history of the industry. So you look at somebody like David attenborough and everything that he's achieved today and and the fact that he was responsible for bringing in color TV because he was the controller of BBC. Two at the time he chose Wimbledon to be where that color TV skull displayed is is just an extraordinary fact that maybe we're dwelling too much in the past as we were talking earlier but really interesting when you think about all of the things that are possible now going to be become possible in the future and I think it's fair to say that wouldn't be what it is in this country. Were it not for the BBC that that that sort of place in the national consciousness and mindset? We get these amazing stories that come into us as you say. Sport is about storytelling of people. Saying you know. I remember my mum burning. That's host when Andy Murray won Wimbledon. Because she was so engrossed in it and I remember my my GRANDPA Shaking his fist at the TV. Sort of saying come on Tim and on being able to inhabit that place in people's Day and in people's lives is just extraordinary So we owe a lot to them and I think that the BBC would also say that. The Wimbledon has done a lot for them also in terms of giving them that That reputation Within Sport and it has been a showcase for them to to try new things and evolve new things and The way that they now create this multiplatform coverage of Wimbledon across all of their channels is fantastic. I think the the other point to make and oversee wouldn't be fair to me to talk about other events in what they do. But we've been in this Fantastic position to say the priority for us is reach and on the quality of the coverage because the cost is we work with are the window to the world for Wimbledon. And it's it's about the money but it's not about the money because we can afford to take a long-term view and say that it's much better for us to work collaboratively and this comes back to this point about common objectives and common partnership to build up an audience and build a passion for an event in a fan base. And if we do that properly and we do that well the money will come. And that's something that we have stood by in and we'll continue to to stand by Roy. Let's let's sort of switch from it then Will you before you came in? Worked for him so I would say I played tennis my my whole life but I would not say necessarily a fan of the sport In the I didn't understand it. I watched Wimbledon every year and I probably watched Queens. I definitely have vivid memories of hiding behind a pillar when Tim Henman. Sorry Tim. was was was winning or not winning But I definitely didn't Follow the sport In in the way that some people do Do you want a ten? Is You a yes? I was not into that. We turned up. They ask you about tennis or they're not interested in tennis. Well when before by semi first job which was which was very much a job by accident Before I worked here quite a long time before I worked here ended up being for tennis magazine and I don't think it mattered to them that I didn't know you the structure of the ATP in the in the IT F which is sort of what I mean when when I say I didn't understand the sport but I I was passionate about the stories of the sport and I think that comes from having a little bit of appreciation and respect for what it takes to be an extraordinary tennis player. I grew up playing tennis with his my personal story with with with my grandfather who had a grass court the didn't bounce and he would just stand at the net and put away volleys and it was the most frustrating thing in the world and we weren't allowed to sit inside and watch TV. We had to play tennis with him. and say when the opportunity came to go and what for. Tennis magazine I told that story and they said Oh well you know. Got Some some interest in the sport you can learn the other stuff and I think any any piece of advice I would give to. Anyone is you. Don't have to know inside out but you have to have some kind of emotional connection and that gives you the baseline to learn the other stuff the toes of of. When did you start here? We're moons your. It's been almost ten years. Believe it or not say it was Two Thousand and Nine what would you say to that person? Sort of ten years ago. You'd you'd came in the game for what what what of you sort of learned. In that time. What mistakes he made. I think A set of general piece of advice back to myself would be Every single conversation that you have with with anyone may never go the way that you wanted to. But it's all progress And and it's all good feedback. I think one of the best things that I can say about this place. Is that if you put together a roll. Well reason argument and you show an example of why it's going to get you from eighty to be by and large it will be considered and sometimes you gotTa yes and sometimes you'll get a no and I think sometimes we created ourselves off to things too quickly and we say will That's maybe not going to work or that's not a great idea so chauvet go in and think of the next one and actually the best ideas come from being. It's on and being improved upon and I think the second piece of advice is you don't have to do or yourself on the people around you and being able to build a brilliant around you and I'm so Owner to what with the people I work with because they help. Make your ideas better as well. It definitely taking me time to learn that when I was at school I was definitely taught the way to get what you want is to argue for it as most in the most forthright manner that you possibly can and I'm not sure that is the way to win an argument will you. Are you good team player? I hip say I people hate people think I definitely have some views and strong opinions but I think when one of the things that that I've tried to do and and of helped me to Is is learn how to lead and ultimately good leadership is about encouraging divest he of opinion encouraging debate. And then being able to make a decision and You know that's a cool part of it the next ten years or quite often say this. But I've no idea what skills you know you personally someone who is in their first or second job in the sports business. What they're going to need to get through and prosper and thrive in the next ten years. Because obviously there's so M- everything is converging in sports to stay part all of Media Marketing Tech. Whatever what what would you? What do you need to learn? Do you think for the next two to future-proof you'll career so I think again. It's a similar point of of of not needing to know the minute detail but I think being able to understand the pieces of the jigsaw and how things fit together we'll be. We'll be critical so as a lot of talk about data science and data scientists and data analysts and I think now is is critical to the broad industry. But you don't necessarily suddenly needs to become a data analyst but you need to have an appreciation of what takes Ramblas does similarly. You don't suddenly need to know inside out. Html code but you need an appreciation of what digital platforms are and will exist. It has to be able to cut and create your video content but you need to know the different types of video content that they're sorry So I think that that's sort of step. Number one is understand. The industry understand the moving parts. And if you don't have that skill find someone else who does that? You can speak to and learn a bit about it so that if asked in interviews situation you say what it's not my core skill set erects petits but I appreciate its importance and I appreciate where it fits I think that is going to be very important. The second thing I would say. And you'll say that this is totally biased. Because I started in journalism. But it's knowing how to write everything that we do is based on putting forward argument a strategy and idea a business plan. And if he can't articulate what you want to do and what the outcome is. You're never gonNA get anywhere and I'm not suggesting that that people are not spending enough time learning to write but it may be being slightly overlooked. Possibly and you know I. I studied history at university has nothing to do with the sports tennis digital technology but it taught me how to research and put forward an argument and I think that remains incredibly relevant. Do come back into fashion right. I mean I I agree with you. That writing is just thinking. Isn't it in a way as it's trying to work out what you think and get that out? Clearly you think there's a sort of Because of the data conversation is become overlooked. I think it's probably again. It's this is the same point you can have as much data in the world but it's meaningless unless you know what to do with it and so I think another skill for for anyone wanting to work in in not just in sport but I think in Buda Media and entertainment is it's not necessarily consulting but it's it's being able to bring people together and understand different opinions And and come up with with the point of view will come up with a series of options and those should be informed by data but ultimately you need you need to have some choices in you need to make human choices and and figure out how they back to to what you're trying to achieve so that this sort of the writing the arguing the thinking I guess the other side of the brain definitely comes in into that doesn't mean you need to be the world's best Bela who mice creative copywriter but but definitely not ignoring it in favor of of the other side I would agree with. Okay well. Listen Alex thank you very much for your time really enjoyed that and say much. Good luck thank you. So Beautiful Day out there wouldn't and Hopefully we'll see the championship thanks coach.

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Inside the mind of Andy Murray

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Inside the mind of Andy Murray

"Hi this is billie jean king. This is marion. Bartoli a mats wilander. This is mary carillo. I'm sandra winker. I'm andy murray. This is yannick noah. And you're listening to the tennis podcasts. Why folks and welcome along to another tennis podcast of second of the week. We're not quite daily but We're pushing towards that daily throughout the year. Mark that david law dreams of david. Hello how you doing are you. Yeah very well thank you very well. Matt is back. It is an absolute treat to have you back. We missed you terribly had multiple rows this week and we're very pleased to have you back on the paul how you doing. Hello yes pleased to be back. And i think what sealed it was last night's whatsapp chat between you two and i thought i need to reprise my peacekeeping role as a matter of agency a that ended with david just saying good night and sixty seconds later related angry passive aggressive po volts appearing on twitter. Which was david expressing his anger at me in a very grown-up play. Apparently david objects in principle to these of the emoji. Yes i do yes. I don't object to it being thing i just don't want to be on the subject to it being thing. You don't want it to be used against me now. Okay we were muted catherine. Yes so these guys listeners can do what you like no. I rolled emotions in my direction. Right or is over. yeah he. He tells me lies. Fakes he really means business where the roller meiji is concerned. So that was the source of last night's agra I didn't think there's been any tennis agro. This week has been tennis though. There's been very very good tennis so far this week. We're going to recap some of it before we move onto more questions curated by this week's guest editor simon peers and we've got some real stinkers a lot of them from from yellow on twitter and instagram and various other any other social media facebook. Maybe does anyone do facebook anymore. Social media anyway but first we must talk about tennis happenings. Because david you put maybe part of the reason you were particularly agro about the use of the ayatollah majors dedicated lots of your evening to the fortunes of on super out. Yeah yeah well because anybody who signs up to the newsletter ready yesterday would know that for a few short hours. I was very much hopeful. That owns was going to win. The doha title as i predicted she would and low behold a. Turn on the tally. And she's three love down against carolina police cavern. It's all very quiet. And then she launched the most extraordinary fightback which i captured in four photos of her reeling off six the next seven games i mean she was playing incredibly well and i was full of hope at this point. I don't care who wins normally between these two. I just wanted to win myself. And and in the end push go one so my prediction lasted about six hours before. Yeah i was actually about mood. I was tired. I've been working hard all day. And it all went wrong and then the new started up. He wasn't happy for carolina puska. Let's let's put it that way Good win for her. They very could win she. Maybe you actually quite interesting as well because before the match i think she'd done a press conference and they played each of the ago and jaybird one and there was a big kind of who are about the crowd being very prone to borrow understandably so given her her background and pushkin a really not liking this and she actually said described six says the crowd. There is brutal. Which i miss. I'd never really thought of in. Doha often be very quiet. But they really do love and shebir and she would stood it she and she also stood the box of tricks of jabber coming back and everything else i. She actually did really well to win that in the end Yeah but nonetheless. David uber is out. she's going to wave. You'll predictions hypes this week. in other Stoneking tennis much news from doha. Migori -ther beat sabotage. Six two six seven six three matt. I think you watch this one live. I was lamenting the fact that it clashed with. Andy murray against andrei trying to keep an eye on the latter stages. I believe your summary is good much not good enough to miss dinner for. What is tell us what happened. I was watching the first two sets and then was was called for dinner. So i had to catch up on the deciding set if i had it all my own way. I probably would have just kept watching because it was an absolute cracker really. I mean ridiculous that those two meeting so early in the tournament it's a consequence of the rankings. Being how they are the moment mcgrew is still down sixteen in the world. I think i mean to me like she's playing top five tennis right now and sampling kaz. Pretty much with a so intense. Such a high level from start to finish mcgrath was unplayable to begin with six to to kinda thought she was going to wrap it up in straight sets really impressed with how salamanca hung in there and she ended up serving for the second set. Got twice mcgrath. Asaf for the match she got broken sampling co on the tiebreak and then supple. Linka went up a break in the third set. Move got that back in. I think fifteen minute game something like that. And then was the fitter stronger one down the stretch. That game sort of took the sting out of sonko a bit but Yeah just a great high quality match between two players who are not well an an alternate universe but a possible one. I feel like either. Them could have been the australian open champion. Given how well. They were playing in melbourne and they have carried that through. Yeah just a great fight between to inform players. The rankings a becoming a bit of a problem. Now i think not problem. I have a solution to and potentially not a problem that there is a solution to might. Just be one of those know public problems we all have to live with Pandemic problems But they all glaringly an issue and to the extent where i saute disregard of relevance. The problem is that they determine seedings and they determine entry into tournaments they. Whilst i can say oh well i just got mattis me. They do matter to the players. I have wondered for awhile whether they could use the rankings to of asli impact acceptance into tournaments and then do something with the seedings to reflect. What the rankings would be. Had there not been this best of system that they've implemented I know that the pay carrying on with their best of system i think until august it slightly tweaked. So it's not gonna be a hundred percent of the points that you earned in two thousand nineteen dang on your ranking. I think it's just going to be fifty percent so that might be a little bit more movement. I've not seen anything from the ta yet about what their plans are for the rankings. But yeah i agree with you. It is becoming more glaring. It's this sort of atp equivalent of ritchie next style extending the furlough scheme until the autumn in a tapered down way gradual tapering. Down a net contemplates having a time of it in dojo. She beat jennifer brady. Six one six two And before that be angelique kerber. Six one six four. I think she plays patrick today. Roy will certainly have happened by the time you've listened to this. Yeah as as i speak to you. she's those matches with other iran. It's brady who's straight off the flight from australia and gets hammered woman to and then Curb six one first set and edged out in the second and then concert runs straight into converter. Who reels off the first four games of the match. I think it was in the match. And they're currently level at one set. All as i told you so that match will be over by the time listening but another you know you just mentioned megara thoenes. Sabah lanka which i think probably is another level on from concert. She's closing the gap. She's becoming more and more relevant and it just feels like this example of every wti drawer at the moment where you look down and you're not even you're at the quarterfinal stage and you've got matches that feel like finals. This is approaching two hours. It's been a crack in tussle and this two more i think today like that And the whole draw. Feels like that. And i absolutely love it. Everywhere you look suggests these matches pourville worthy matches and And just the brilliant tone. David no need for a tennis has also been happening. Men's tennis in rotterdam Before we talk about the results have been some interesting ones. Let's talk about the caught. Most successfully adapted pandemic tennis courts yet. Discuss appearance wise one hundred vice greed. Yeah it is great. It looks almost futuristic with the green lasers or something around the side. The coaching boxes are you described them as like a spaceship catherine yet. Looks like jamie delgado strapped in About to head for another planet really makes me long yeah. This is sort of nice box on a balcony at a theater vibe to it as well The contrast of the green and grey. I think works really. Well it pops off the screen. Yeah i've i've been so impressed by by what they've been able to put on. That looks really nice to watch on the screen which i haven't felt about tennis in the pandemic that often. Yeah it's nice to see an enhancement of what there is rather than a dwelling on almost there isn't Which is yeah. It's been some interesting results on the main court. Didn't he lost to live it despite his snow. Look turn your back on the opponent with rally still going situation which i'm sure listed an eye roll from dc which And the universe backwards. I wrote because he lost the point but then he went on to lease the match. So i don't know what the moral of the story that is really roles but medvedev out Alexander zverev las t alexander boob lick. That's i mean. Boublil is good fun and flashy and sort of when he has a hot streak. He can really really happen. But he's moving as well be is improving but i didn't. I didn't expect that to happen. After say you went to these various press conference after that david. Well funny i would have assumed i would have won that as well. I would have thought he would be just too consistent in to relentless hard hitting for blake. Who i say has has gone from being somebody who has tricks and and flashy strikes. She putting it together. He's becoming a platt now still in his own way but he turned up regularly quite quite often now tournaments he's he's getting to latter stages what was fascinating was very wasn't surprised in the slightest about the way this had gone. He said in his press coins. I have not won a practice. Set all week I've practice twice a day. I have tried really hard of come here. And i wanted to do well but i. The my phone's today is not a surprise. He puts it down to the conditions. He's he's not going to go to colt and any was at pains to try to say. I'm not slacking off the tournament because it's a great tournament but he also sorta slacked off tournaments in in as much as he kind of said. I'm not the only one. All a lot of players are lining up outside the office saying this and his big gripe with the tennis balls which i think a made by this week technify in rotterdam and he just said that i really low bouncing which is a problem for me with my height And there's just not enough behind him and he was making a case which he'll number plaza talks about in the past of wanting to have a specific ball for specific swing of tournaments. And he said that's not the case now I i always find it difficult to to read too much into plaza. Talk about tennis balls. Because i'm sure the ones that are winning absolutely love. This is ball's and and that may be may be a factor in there but he was a shadow of the player that he normally is that indoor tournaments is and he was pretty pretty comfortably beaten. Nadal is constantly winning tournaments. Complaining about the tennis balls isn't he. That is signature move. he's not lanes. Evan seeds being beaten but easter a good loss to davidovich makina felix or generally seem lost to kane she corey as did alex Domino leasing mccain cory martyrdom. I mean when was last time we talked about. Qena she corey. Let's just that's just how little moment and maybe offer matt the opportunity to resurrect his big nishikori prediction. It's never too late. Matt or sadly the terms of the prediction suggested six years too late and i I predicted him to win a slam. In two thousand fifteen those particular twelve months. Yes yeah so you could learn from david. Keep it since then taking breath away. We'll kuri matt take our breath away. He is during just that this week. i read. It was his first. This is his first quarter-final since wimbledon two thousand nineteen which kind of makes perfect sense. Because it feels like we haven't talked about him since then. He played quite well in australia. He just had really tough opponents. He played medvedev and schwartzman. Atp cup and then he played public pasta around one of the australian open so he he actually lost all those matches. But i i think his tennis was actually far better than it had been for a while. And he's really put it together this week or is elliot's scene was injured in that second. Set some kind of hateful side strain of something so couldn't read too much into that but against duma know he was. He was excellent similar. Playas trying to do similar things Most notably nishikori has improved his serve. He talked about how he changed his technique little bit after he had the elbow trouble and he's also trying to try use less of his elbow s of his shoulder to not quite sure what he's using But it is working because it's it's fast bit harder and he was getting some points key. Being the bully i'm right. He's a great player to watch. When he plays well. Ishikura you can his groundstrokes so smooth and clean and it was. It was a working for him. And he's in that section of the door will the seeds have gone out. So there's a jump i mean he's to say he couldn't win this ornament rink his gone goffin's gone The two seeds left a rip live and sit surpass replay moment sit. Suppressants incidentally is also still alive in the doubles which he might think not. Big knees will for number reasons. This is big news. he's partnering his brother petros of atp cup fame and would it be fair to say very little other fame. What else you get something else around the tool. They had said that for each tour level doubles match when he gets with his brother. Hilden eight three thousand euros to move. And i in advance of this muzzy ghia to Which is together for children charity. Whose mission is to provide immediate and effective support to children families and individuals with disabilities. Her need which is wonderful. And i mentioned mazi gear topalli petty thaw. Would it just you. This is marvelous. Much needed funds robbing hands together glances down at the sitter pass brothers doubles record and heart sinks. Frankly stephanos doubles record. Alone is enough to make the hot think. Yeah he'd lost sixteen of his last seventeen doubles matches. That one win was a retirement after one game during the in that time he partnered his brother he partnered karachi zuma niche. Cool hof federer doll curious and pervert rocky's and hadn't managed to win a competed match with any of them. I think since may twenty nineteen but fine as ponder federal and the dow up which i normally back from federal and federal during that period and it still couldn't get i mean does records any finger you cross and wasn't wasn't good when he first started playing doubles will. He was playing with wesley kulikov and that was a great success and then was he cooled off dumped him. I feel like there's a sort of epic movie to be made here. We'd need to sort of final redemptive acts involving cool often cool off cooling up steph nelson begging forgiveness bit cool hoffa openly talked about the fact that he was using it to pass for his ranking to get into doubles tournaments and then when they One didn't they win. Miami runners up in miami thing out of one. Miami rana's up. I think they definitely did a speech. Your yeah thirty shoulder was an ira in it. Yeah well it was. It was a relationship killer ditched him. And since then it has been it's been poor visits anyway is gonna win yesterday. Not three thousand years for together for children so long may that run continued and i mentioned reblog. Is one of the two seeds left in the tournament. He beat andy. Murray in the second round. Seven five sixty really. Close i set nip and tuck right up until five all rebuff them broke the murray serve. Murray had fifteen forty to break rube love immediately back and take it to a tie-break really was tight. That first second set a lot less so murray really faded and rublev just looked like the top ten player that he is but reasons to be encouraged for sure friend. Mario look very different to me to his first round win over robin hassle which was scrappy and that win loss rather last week against Eagle garage move is what it looked like a really different kettle of fish to me this match and pushing like that rube love what we say about him as he beats the people space to beat. He's not someone that steph for the scalping and the rankings situations this would have been a massive scalp brandi mauri so Reasons positively for both of them. I'd say andy murray Gosh look this start. Rube lovers one seventeen matches in a row with a t p five hundred and he's going for his fourth straight title of the hamburg. Since birth and fiona blimey right came up doesn't eat easily just a reliable play. You know i mean when was the last time rublev turned up and had a bad loss in an early round. Those i think there was an atp official somewhere yesterday saying that that result was good for the movement schizo back then there were ten other officials going. Oh gender i just. I don't want to put a dampener on the left stuff. I suppose you could argue for very understandable reasons. He didn't quite turn off at the. Atp finals in london but that was playing that that will that was playing people. Right above looks little bit out of his depth third until you bet on paper you probably say he should lose all the ones you faced. But that's his next level really. Yeah so we've got the win. Seven five six two Andy murray woman. She's mentioned his pre-tournament press conference in rotterdam on monday. Well he's been really going for it with opening up in press conferences. I know that's kind of what we've come to expect from andy murray but it feels like you know considering it's all over zemun remote and it can be quite hard to to probe in those sorts of situations and reach a sort of comfort level conducive to a fireside chatting andy murray he's been giving lot of late and particularly this week in his face much press conference with andrea andrea reblog very interesting indeed his a clip of andy murray after he's asked by the crooks of The press association whether whether he should cut himself a bit more slack be less hard on himself both kind of on the court and off the court in terms of what he's expecting of himself. Yeah like certain instances. It would probably help. But like i said tonight like the mistakes i made in the important moments are not down to know any physical issues too. I've had know like at the. Us open when i played the match against felix for example. Like i'm not gonna analyze that match because physically. I was struggling whereas tonight. I felt fine physically. I was playing pretty well important. Molins didn't an ass. I want to have the highest standards. And i want to set the bar like as high as possible because yeah. I just feel like if you don't do that. This is just for me. Everyone's different but for me. I feel like if you set just like an average kind of standard and be like except kind of mediocrity and reach that target of being average than that's not the same as saying like the highest standards of life. Okay i'm gonna try to be the best in the world. You'll do everything that you possibly can to to reach that standard and if you don't get there that's okay so like after a match i can be. It can be okay if i if i set those standards whereas i would hate to come off like a match tonight and be like yeah great work and eat it really really well up until the end that i said. Don't worry about the end of the first sir. Just focus on those eight games. Because i just for me. I just don't learn quickly that way. I like to focus on the the the what the issue is what. The problem is really understand why that happens so that i know i need to work on an yeah. That's how i like to work. Everyone's different obviously. But that's what works. Best for me. I would like to be kind to myself one. I'm on the core at say. Probably unlikely that is ever going to happen. But i'll try. Yeah and if you ever do want tonight one andy. Murray considers to be the issue at any given moment on tennis court. Just in and turn up the volume. It's generally sort of some unspecified number sense That he considered to be the problem. It's such a thrill. Ride watching him and listening to him at the moment. And i i just love that onto from him really did Yeah i i sat through the whole press conference Last night and that followed his own dissection of his performance which itself followed all of us in the media. I think to a person saying oh reason to be encouraged there. That was a good. That was a good performance from andy. Murray he vince pushed. Andre satin robe left played. Really well couple of double. I'm marie yeah disappointing. But you know big steps in the right direction. Lots of reason to be encouraged murray absolutely was crestfallen in that first answer about his own failings in that match and he was not prepared to accent any of this optimism that we were coming up with and you heard some of it in that second so which was which was even better just such a fascinating insight into how his mind works but just not acceptable. Not good enough. Got to get better cart. Any he so used to being able to do better than that in his career if he's fully fit and that's the party conned accept because he knows what he's supposed to be able to do and that wasn't it and which are which i i loved i think mostly it just showed me how completely all in his on this comeback. There is no faffing around here. There is no token comeback. Let's see if it works out or not. I mean look if if eventually he thinks it's not going to work out he will pull out and he will pull away and he will. I think be okay with that. But i wasn't ready prepared for person who's seemingly is obsessed with making this work because he is right now And you saw that on court and you saw. Because his behavior was classic. Marie came under that. So pumped up to show one of these. Next gen is a thing. Go to the way he did was very of last year he was he was throwing everything in god and i love the way ruben stood up from self and just went outside and i suspect we get to interview but mice. My guess is that he he probably reveres andy murray and was really proud of himself coming through that match and and honored to share the court with him in that way but in the press comments murray's body language he was so mc amped up about everything the gone on and this is the first step of many you can see if he can just stay fit and that's a big. If and i know we've said it before that i'm saying in a way i didn't feel last year i thought it was pretty much over. I thought don't see how this is doable. If he can stay fit his strength of character his determination he's going to drag him. I mean obviously. He's share ability but got he so determined. It's frightening how to tone is and it's now what do i play he's got. He said he wants to play the by wants to miami. And then the question marks clay whether it's challenges on hardcourt etcetera crikey. It's some it's overwhelming. How determined is i think. Played the solihull open if you wanted him a wild card david well you play the winner at me and saw the whole simon if he likes so simon certainly absolutely open gulls more records quite good at the moment. You pre lockdown will just taken in. It was very interesting on those next steps. Wasn't he married because he said there's a real balance to be found between playing enough matches so that he rediscovers the fool me once but also playing matches at the high level that he talked about in that trump's assay gains the information that needs. He talked about dropping down to challenge is always an option for him but what he really wants to be doing is playing toy level events and gaining that information and learning so sort of balancing his instincts with what he's ready for i think is is quite difficult for him at the moment but hopefully hopefully you can get a draw that breaks and not have to play a rube live around too so he can. He can make a bit more progress in these tournaments. Because i mentioned it is really frustrating for him to make bad mistakes at bad times because he's a top player and top players. Don't do that. That's how they build their careers by playing well the right time but we saw yesterday. There's a lot of good tennis. Still still in andy murray. And when you when you combine that with that determination. I certainly think he can can set up some fall better results. What we're saying. The moment i mean. Yeah he feels like he's jewish decent at one of these events we've also cloisters coming back from her comeback in miami and charleston. Has anyone ever picked a worse. Time to have a comeback full licensed. Just i mean i. I also think the bryan brothers announced their farewell tour and four blocks just couldn't do. I really hope they get a proper sendoff somewhere year but yeah kim classes. He's kind of one of the little bonuses of of tennis resuming. Because i'd kind of forgotten about her coming back and yet the the idea that we'll see a bit more averse great Show yeah as i say. She'll play miami in charleston a couple of results from last week That i failed to apprise you of on monday In large part because we didn't have with us say sort of south. American news fell somewhat by the wayside. Alexi popper and won his first eighty title in singapore. He beats the aforementioned boob four six six love. Six two in the final say beaten maron chile each on route to that title career high ranking for popper and at eighteen. I saw the pitches of him In the moment of victory. And i him that meant the world to him. That's tight lynn. It just goes to show you know. Okay that will be one of the weakest rules. Singapore that that we've seen in in men's tennis in recent times a whole bunch of reasons but that presents opportunity for someone hungry enough and committed in often and popper and seize the opportunity and it really looked like it meant the world. Tim say say good for him. we've also had matters found a new. He's ditched carlos alcaraz. There's a new kid in town folks right. We've got nineteen year old. I mean as written like eight bullet points on this kid. we've got nineteen year old one. Manuel karen dolo. How did i d seren dolo gomer. So there's a there's an accident on the issue so that that's where the emphasis is is a holiday or soft. Say let's the oh crikey. Just don't members. I thought the he might say they might. He might he might make it. S yeah so it could be one man. Well this is ruined below. Right one manuel seromba. Low nailed it. He won the cordoba open on his. Atp debut he entered the event is qualify having never played an atp to a much and having a seven seven win loss record on the challenger tour he became the first to win a title on his debut since santiago ventura literally never heard of him so not perhaps the biggest footsteps to have gone on. We've seen before Yoga ventura yeah. I always think of ace ventura whenever a harry's name But he's played on the marine past definitely seen him play before. Maybe maybe i need a visual anyway. Santiago ensured that in casablanca in two thousand four It marked the second time that the court of open had been won by play. You hadn't previously won an atp. Too much wanting gusts launderer. Did it in two thousand. Nineteen i think the point. I'm facetiously trying to make is that. These aren't names that necessarily say future greater to the game with respect to these to these teams And finally at number three hundred thirty five in the rankings. Cerrone ndolo is the fifth lowest rank title winner on the adp since lleyton hewitt pablo. I'm do hall fernando gonzalez and tommy. How are you going to be. Is this the point. Where i say that i know of that but have never seen him play tennis yes. I think you just did a lot going on this week. I i did not watch. The quarterback open made up for it with the point nine. Now he's left. Handed has a brother who's a little bit older than him and was seven the drawer. But yeah i really. I really couldn't say that much but obviously this is impressive. And is the sort of result that makes me want to watch him in the future. Find out what it's all about. Yes we will earmark. Sarah ndolo all thera ndolo watch out for him in future drawers just realized by the way How i know. Santiago ventura i ever player to be beaten on the atp tour by andy. Murray wow two thousand and five. First round queens queens. Yeah that's why. I wouldn't go that and a quiz question. I mean evidently my lack of knowledge about santiago ventura has been very much exposed in this podcast. My credibility is in tatters. Lost bit of news before we move onto our listener questions is that marcus willis the will bomb has retired from tennis Of course everyone will remember him mostly for his run three pre-qualifying and qualifying to play roger federer in the second round of wimbledon in twenty fourteen. Two thousand sixteen. Ooh god it. It doesn't feel that recent. I feels like a hundred years ago to me. doesn't it. no. I mean i feel both raid. I kind of feel it feels recent in some ways in the i remember interviewing him later on that year and he was really determined to try and talk hundred one day if he could and many sound a number of injury issues and his his motivation has come and gone minnie's over the whole career. It's gone up and down. It's just the way it's been fam- but i'll never ever forget his run. It was it was. That was the year andy murray won his second wimbledon and yet the first week of that tournament he was the star. He was the story people. Were i remember on five live. We were more interested in his in covering his matt. First two matches than we were. Andy murray his first two matches really just he just totally stirred up a nation. That people were intoxicated by his run. He i think he done a android andrey rublev on the way before they were known and And he he played that first round. I think i think beat ricardas barankyevish. You're dead. yeah and his face. People that people wish sending in the crowd waving their shoes. What they saying shoes off if you love will bomb and it was why no i never really understood that but it was just funny and he was just like this blake from down the pope who plays at the local club. That's how it came across suddenly at wimbledon and he's ripping up and he can really play any got lob over there of roger federer and shelter the championship for federal loved. The he loved the whole story. Yeah he'll always have that moment on central against his hair and he gave that to all of us and it really is yeah. You've done a great job of reminding us how much of a moment that was it. Yeah i think people might not remember the name. But i think if you showed the nation's any the british nation a picture of him on court wimbledon everybody most people's mind would would be would be by that say happy retirement and she's off for for marcus willis for nas time everyone right then We have not much remaining time for listener questions curated by simon pace as punching us. Please no time for i. roll license. consciouness. Yes exactly like lightning round right then. Simon has chosen the following. And this is from. Sam amick gate house on twitter. I think thoughts on the best of five debate. Why not have a games one threshold. The losing player must reach of the two sets to trigger five sets. It might incentivize players to win bigger and faster and add a new tactic to the game. Now it just liked to combine this question with one from our instagram. Because my answer to the question on both these questions and that question is what's one thing from tennis. Can people take on board to help them in life and they say what one thing would you which you from tennis would you say has been a bad influence on society. We'll just to answer the first part of that question. I think the answer is the fact that it doesn't matter what school you win. A set by that set is over and the match resets. You can win the first set six love and you can win the next two six love six love and it really doesn't matter whether it was a tie-break i knew a brilliant any for your heart out or whether it was an obsolete disaster. It's it's gone. And i think that is a fantastic kind of noah lesson but a little exemple if sort of minds of a mindset. That would be healthy for us all to be able to adopt easier said than done and i think that is the same reason that while i think there are virtues in that suggestion about having to to reach reach a threshold of games. One Best of five-set match in order to to trigger it becoming a best of five. I love that you could win. You could lease two sets love and love and still in the match. I love that about tennis. And i think it's quite important. Actually i think although although it might seem to kind of come into play quite rarely that they would be a momentum shift of of anything like that scale. It's important that it's possible. I think it's really fundamental to the bt of tennis scoring. that is possible. And for that reason. I don't want to lose it. I great i just said. I don't let watching tennis whilst mathematics ago on in my head I i. That's the problem. I have with the atp finals much as i love the event. I don't i don't like having to do some but better don't like doing it anyway. but yeah oh i agree with you. Yep full house. I think if you if you were to change something about those first two sets of a five set match you might as well get rid of five-set tennis as you've said the fact that it's possible to make that come back from when you're down two sets to love is one of the things that is great about five-set tennis So i agree with everything you've said. It was warm boop and on our instagram. That the the second part of that question next one. Is there such a thing as a straight-sets classic that is from at us. Eleven name eleven on twitter. Yes the is one hundred percent. I agree one hundred percent. There is but i spent half an hour on this morning trying to think of one. Couldn't say i was going to say that was my nose. My gut reaction yes. Of course there is because the tennis scoring system allows for there to be a classic with a straight-sets match because you can still have momentum swings you can still have tight moments. You can still have both players playing well at the same time. And all of those things. I think what make a classic match. Then i was racking my brain trying to think of just one example and really really struggling i came up with federal jackovitch in the twenty twelve Two final was. Excellent was straight sets. And i remember curb serena wimbledon finals from twenty sixteen being excellent. But would they be classics. I think probably not so much open to david has any my mom's admitted the two thousand thirteen murray jovic wimbledon final but that was because of context actual match being a classic. One of the best matches. I've ever seen queens was The final between donald jock of itch. You know eight and think that was seven five seven six and every rally. And i think what it was. That was a tennis that we'd never seen queens before we'd never seen the download is best and this was the first time we played a few times. I think only maybe the second time we'd ever seen jack at the tournaments and this was this was over. He was a grand slam champion by then because he'd australian open and here they were showcasing. What they've got right on in front of us on grasset on center colt and that both played really well and it was so close in the round east. You just didn't see like that on grass at queen's before i hadn't anyone and felt on a knife edge even straight-sets and that was the beauty of it. Great great david has found some examples to validate what we thought was the case. That's excellent next question on going anywhere near this one because it is it's predictions based on. It's a hospital pass. Good luck folks. this is from fiona sullivan on twitter. Putting together what. We know now which is incredibly. Little fiona is our best prediction of what federal can achieve. When he returns should should be set by the way that he's confirmed that he doesn't intend to play. Miami's it'd be so hard you buy and then his next competitive tennis will be the clay. What's he gonna do. Well a little bit of insight for you From to by where. He's been preparing for doha. He's been hitting with dan. Evans over there I think hatun over there as well before he went to rotterdam Well i found out about evans been over this ask him as russia in and then and he says he's hitting them just fine and that was that was the that was how far that went But i have another source in dubai. Who tells me that federa- not only has a minore in terms of just how interested he still seems to be in terms of learning from his coach coaches dishing out instructions while he was practicing. He seems absolutely totally bought into this. Into whatever is being told he also says he's the only man in his late thirties in dubai. That's ever looked good in a mickey mouse station so and making us But from from what. I can understand him. And he's he's practicing heart. And i think and i and i also take from andy murray line in the press comments last night when he was greg great conversation when he was asked final question by rob mall of the son he was asked whether he has any sort of sympathy for roger federer of because of the ongoing injury problems. He's had over the last year. Murray did that great thing when he went sympathy and the rob said of style. You know slightly altered it and said well empathy. Maybe and this grew very very interesting. Answer about how. Top players don't have empathy for each other the not very good at empathy but the he said in terms of federal. He's i if if you put him up there he i back his skills to be better than virtually everybody else that he'll end up play even even now i don't think his skills will have diminished. He will still be able to to handle himself. Just fine oversee. We don't know how the body will stand up to the rigors of what it's going to be asked today but i have a feeling this could be another grandson finish in. Oh you then. If i but. I wasn't expecting that can. I just clarify what david said. David say grand slam financial grandstand. Finish i think she could reach. I'd say you look okay. Put it this. I would not be toll surprised if he reached either the wimbledon or the uso from final or the olympic final. I think i think the one of those is very much doable. If he's in a final yes you can. You can win one of course account. I thought that still quite punchy. But unfortunately i thought it said grand slam finish and i now feel disappointed but had i not misheard in the first place. I'd be impressed with you'll you'll punching us david but gets the wimbledon final. Can i say he'll get either. The wimbledon finals or the olympics final. I i would take out the. us open. I don't feel as strong about his chances. They're over five sets on a hardcore. His body has let him down recently. It'll have been twelve years since he won I did read some interesting quotes from peer. Paganini recently in swiss press federer's physical trainer who has been a mainstay of his team is absolutely fundamental. I think confederates career both in terms of helping him for his longevity and also initially i think getting federal more invested in that side of the sport He was saying it is a very different situation to two thousand sixteen seventeen because when he returned in twenty seventeen his his muscles were still there whereas the break has been so long. This time it's been it's been a lot more to build up. He said he's locked downtimes twelve and he said fetters regained the strength that he had. But we need to see how the muscles react to match play which you just can't replicate and training and we're really concentrating on speed because we think that is going to be a seven potent for federal being able to hang with the top players. But he did say you know. Federal patients has been amazing throughout the whole thing and his desire and love. Riddle is completely undiminished What he had when he returned in two thousand seventeen was a freedom about him and about his tennis. And if he can rediscover that which i kind of think he will then he then he could be so dangerous. So yeah i'm i'm i'm sticking. With a wimbledon final olympics final possibly possibly grabbing one of them. I think will something in doha and dubai goal. Fundamentally is the same. It's all about the summer for federal I think i think i agree. Wimbledon final is completely unlikely because his the game moved on. It's hard to say has a cape chases have got better. Did you medvedev's any sit two passes of got closer and and team wanna slam. But at any any of these winning wimbledon where is where he ends up in a draw because think there's no okay. He got to match point against djokovic which which was an incredible feat and jackovitch was below. His best and federal is very very good that day. But i think you could really back him to jock strap. That's a good comment a next question. If you could choose current players eight which abe with respect to surface stadia surface and stadium for any match. What would it be. this is from ceramic. i think also on twitter And that suggestion is fed against carol brackets no tank good specification on growth inside the john. Cain arena which. I'm very much here for. We need to be punchy fakes mice. Admission is andress ski against a soccer on gross inside the arthur ashe stadium. Oh yeah flays. That'd be good. Cannot just substitute federal for djokovic. The previous job. Yep yeah jock. Itch against carry-ons joan. Caterina pit yourself. Care right cool david. I think i would go slightly less fantastical and trying to get an answer to a question that i have and that would probably be film tech versus asaka. One of the Grand slams because i think i think that could be a shot making extravaganza could also one day. You'll get them. Could i have mine over two legs. Because the return leg to be curious against djokovic in davis cup in belgrade. she'll yeah. I'm david curious against the serbian hardcore crowd. The amazing okay final question. Oh this is the the queen's. I was looking for final question. This is ellen poser. Chosen by simon. How do you feel about staging a tournament. Queens during the second week of wimbledon allah the phillip island trophy. And she'll say ads. Why is queens. Not a male and female event. I'm presumably Lay elena i think lane originally presumably elena is just looking for more reasons to have Penguins involved in trophy ceremonies. Which i'm i'm very much here for. I mean sounds like a great. I did to me. But the wouldn't allow it. I don't think it's even conceivable because because of the girls right well. The number of people. I mean econ economic play on gross for sue for so long the euro after after queens the grass gets ripped up and reseeded for the next year. It doesn't mean that that is a do. Remember the year that britain in the davis cup on that court and it was an incredible job to have to try to repair for that. They pulled it off Yeah i mean it's It's definitely something that i can see. Why the logic to it from that standpoint you're right. I mean not as problematic. I also think that there is already a pretty good system in place with these. Be to goto For the week after and that's that's a really nice tournament an a good set of facilities in terms of why isn't a men's and women's tournaments. I mean i think there is a sort of facilities issue of just sheer size for start. I mean it's a clubhouse it's an old fashioned clubhouse Generally speaking it's it's difficult to to make it a work as it is. It really is size wise in terms of the number of people and you basically have to double it. So i just. I don't know whether that's doable. Really son in one week and then if you do back toback week. She got the issue of the grasp problem in terms of the idea of that being a tournament during the second week of slam. I quite enjoyed that. I i must. I didn't watch a lot of it. Because focus was obviously on the slams but from a planning perspective it makes sense especially if at the moment we want to get as many events in the same place at one time as possible and creating this idea of swing that you talked about on monday. I think it would make trip worthwhile. Particularly the moment travel is difficult for players who lose in round one if they could then end to another tournament on at the same venue in ovalles nearby in week two. So i do quite like that as as an idea but i agree i think queens would be just to ought to get the girls ready within a couple of weeks Maybe once queens qualifying moves chee. Sorry maybe once. Wimbledon qualifying me to to wimbledon itself. Once they've completed the expansion across the region to the golf club may be rohinton. Currently have in. Qualifying could become a venue for a second week wimbledon tournament. I've just had a great idea accidentally make it so tennis vertebra comfortably. Takhar open is board. Yeah let dogs in the wimbledon qualifying. Yeah great see downsides david. We've time for matt wants. This is where i was. Just gonna say you mentioned dogs. And i did know soul tan had what was that. They had rescued oaks on the colt. i know why matt bluffly order. It was wonderful. I i know about that because we tacked in the instagram post about eighty times by people saying. I think i did my date. I really did. There's the plays of posing with them. There's one with the little puppy owner tennis rackets. There's one if a sort of a larger dog sitting up on its hind legs Doing side i at the camera. There's one player. I couldn't tell you who the players wearing masks. But he's lounging of david brent typos with the dog. Also sort of lounging so full. It's all sensational. Thank thanks for bringing that up. David i have one more question. And it's aimed at you. It's from russell. Miller on instagram and it is an old in an alternate universe. David is a professional tennis player. Who take it. Take a moment to suspend suspend awkward goofy faculties. He has to practice with one player for two full weeks in the quarantine period before the australian open he stuck with two remaining options while palca born a charge. Hey you picking roy poker. Come on these such a less good practice partner ever. We'd have a few abouts and style. Which is the dream. I think for you. You're not interested in highly mosquitoes. I just wanna know the ball around with riley and then got to the pub. You think you're going to the public with riley polka david. You're supposed to be imagining an alternate universe in which show professional tennis player challenging. The australian open works for curious. I mean you could argue that. It really doesn't know about thirteen. The world's phillip squandering a talent whatever talent you have in this alternate universe squandering it and we had many many more questions on social media. I'm sorry that there isn't time for all of them will inevitably be doing more more of these shows If the course of the year in feature because the quality of the questions is always so high and actually degree simon has done a brilliant job in composing and selecting them. Say thank you simon. it's been. It's been a real treat to answer those questions. Thank you all say to alfie or mascot for this week some photos of come in of our fee and not just fatos a whole folder. 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The French Open Catch-Up with Joel & Kim: Round 4 - witek shocks favourite Halep; Thiem outlasts Gaston; Qualifiers Trevisan + Podoroska progress; Nadal sets up Sinner test; Kvitova + Kenin on collision course; Should Zverev have played with symptoms?

"Hello Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome to the passing shot tennis PODCAST BY FANS on Joel I'm Kim and today we're looking back on round four at the French Open. Gentlemen thank. You. Kim We are almost there. We're almost at the end of round four at the French Open chronic is literally about win the last round four match in the men's section we've got she got one more round four match to play in the women's Joel which has she been delayed and will be on first thing tomorrow morning I mean this this round really I, think the main stories out there are the weather unfortunately has created ugly head and made it a bit stop-start easy. But when we have had play on call, we have had some of the. Biggest upsets of the competition so far, and of course, one of them. Probably. The biggest upset across the whole tournament safe are semester number one seed Ho favor giving out in a ridiculous see surprising fashion It was developing whilst we recorded our route three catch up. That's Yeah. I mean I feel like that's the that's really the only place we can stop because that was one of the only ones that result unexpected but the scoreline as well was. Doubly expected and. I mean three on tech really just a breakthrough performance from her wasn't a absolutely I mean we did she capture that performance live on our latest boat i. mean the result rather we we kind of live dating during because I was it of. Couldn't really believe what I was saying I mean we knew that field intact was going to be a different opponents this time last year because he had an extra year on the circuit to mature and and get that experience against top players under her belt. But I don't think anyone expected the fashion of of victory. You know she just didn't put a foot wrong. She was playing with such kind of variety and I mean how it didn't play badly she just couldn't really do anything to to kind of withstand what she wanted was coming up with and. I mean if you take keep that full Bah A. She's She's playing tr- Trevisan to Maury and I mean she on tech is obviously the higher ranked player in in that match so Arguably is the favor and then I mean I. don't see why she can't go on and win the whole tournament. We soar happened with Yelena? West Bank of years ago. There's absolutely no reason why Just because she's on seeded and outside the top fifty can't go all the way off to what we've seen similarly though Joe I wouldn't get too carried away and I can tell you see her perhaps not playing well and it going the other way. It's it's all up in the air still. Yeah I mean it's always a question of of of upsets of this magazine is whether you can. You can back it up because. She I think people now are seeing her as the favourite. You know forget rankings forget seeds. She just beats Simona Halep who had. Just inaugurated Anisimov over. and yeah. I, think for for a lot of people she's inherited that position. As the as the top favourite. I mean the thing that was most impressive to me about it was. Literally, this time last year I wouldn't say. I literally I. Mean This last year at the French Open. It was it was. His feeling tech and. Absolutely, bulldozer lovin things like love and one. And we've had a complete role reversal twelve, twelve, sixteen, sonal, whatever I mean. Yeah. It's just it. I mean, it just makes. It just makes you realize how fascinating compelling tennis could be because you can have these matches and you can learn from them, and then you can have a moment fervor down entire time y you can make good on kind of the. Learning that you've done over the last twelve months and you know right that wrong and I think. Really Just. Just paid remarkably well, and she started. So quickly, the economy reminded may actually have know how that versus Serena Williams in that Wimbledon final it was just like light. Help this really, she couldn't even kind of stay intact really and I think the the thing I was nice thing was the fact that because of the format of the, you know the women's draw as best of three sets. When a play, it does have such a fast aw. Likes feeling. Dade it's there's. There's less time to have sort of a recovery phase before you can kind of go back into soap mood and you didn't have that didn't have that luxury and ultimately it was just kind of left by the wayside. Yeah I think sometimes they. I'm sure be kind of ruin the fact that you know she. She was coming into this tournament on a big win streak. Hope favor. But at the end of the day, she just came up against if I was inspired and probably would have beaten any player I, think on that day. Much. Like somebody in help again Serena in that final loss Jay it was kind of just one of those. Kind of spellbinding form. Ince's really that Yukata just have to say to in a way and I mean it's a shame because it says something that. You know how it came a corporate to Anisimov but last year. Maybe. Sweet spent it was extremely attacking how much more defensive player she's kind of. Grafting and getting all back but it wasn't really anything she could take to field in tech and it's maybe an issue when he comes up against players who are playing lights out does she have an answer? especially if they go kind of you know five up in in twenty minutes or something, and it's a massive kind of break we're at the stall. Day perhaps that's something that she needs to think about a I think if any other player the other day how it would've won I mean I just I feel like it's just the luck of the draw that she faced her and it was bad luck really puts a yeah I mean I mean how? WILL BE PEOPLE WHO Have our cheers the favor in some cases will sheehan tech realized. will she now think Oh, I've got pressure meeting. People are expecting things of me is not GonNa Change things with full minutes from now on. That's what I've been trade find out. Yeah. Because of she's I think she's in nineteen years old great. Great. Another great prospect for the the Women's game and you know the maidment, their oversee the comparisons. With a police background to play I like aggravate advance girl who was a fantastic player in back in her day But obviously, we put right around skin that category of some of the best players never to never to have won a grand slam and. You know I. Think kind of looking at. Yes she owned texts performance. De wet where do you kind of see her getting decent? She could be allowed. Number one is she going to be a grand slam champion Ezekiel? Be Most Book? No Grand Slam champion. I. Think these kind of questions were kind of interested to see. How they develop and? Kind of how I think would be kind of kicking us off at the. Kind of missed opportunity because it was, it was a missed opportunity. At the same time Going to be looking at this to be like, Hey, this is gonna be my this is going to be big moment. Yes. She had a big breakthrough match but now she's got the opportunity to make big breakthrough slam and we've seen we've seen that happen in the does happen it can happen at the French Open So yeah, we. We will say but yeah, I mean, especially inner is the top seed left in the in the in the top half of the draw. But I mean she I think she's really got anything much to fear because you know we've got no in the top at least we know Grand Slam champions, it's all sort of. Fillings obviously been here before, but you apart from that I mean she's definitely going to be. Bags of confidence in her to think that she can go on and win the thing. Yeah, I mean, Switzerland. Now, ready if you think about her and the other names in her side of the draw, you would think on paper looking at ranking and previous performances slams he think, Sicily no, this is absolutely how best chance to. Make, a slam final for the first time perhaps when it We spoke to her coach didn't we joe earlier on this year Andy Battles and yeah, that was very much. Like her next goal was she going to break through a maker? Fine Oh Osaman this is surely her best Charles to do that but I mean, should we looking at thinking? Well, you've done that to help. You. Get ready to me. If you know if they were to me Selena Lena has. Puerta Rosca. In the coaches tomorrow so you would expect three into come through that You know she's a very consistent player she doesn't turn up and. Play horrendous she you know you've got to beat visiting basically she's she's not going to. Lie Down, and let you kind of awkward over her say. It's no ascension to. Get anything in twenty twenty as. Women's Irvine at Roland Garros. I mean, you've got to looking at you've got to really be a spiel on tax a semi, but we do have the qualifies a Trivia sign and Puerta Rosca who have briefed on. So incredibly well, this tournament. Nadia Puerto Oscar she was ranked two hundred and fifty five at the office season. She's one of the socially fourteen matches this year you. There hasn't been any tennis for anyone to play. So she's done that trade in a handful of months really. She's going to be in the top hundred of the her sharing hair, which is great and then oversleeping. Trevor San, she beat Kiki Buttons. Yesterday in straight-sets. I topped him victory I. Think it was only the second time. She's actually played a top ten player I think have have first appearance against Stockton by was actually against persons last year. So she's kind of getting better and better and more confidence she goes through each round. Xi Jinping sacrilege being Gulf I mean she's now some versions so she's not gonNA. Be Easy to be either. No I. Think I think what? What it says with two qualifiers in. The quarterfinals of French Open I, think what it shows you. Think is the regardless of who your opponent is. If you can if the season you able to get lots of matches under your belt regardless of who's facing across the net I think that has you know pay dividends. About put Roscoe and the fact that she's played and won forty two matches across all levels in in twenty twenty. I think the fact that if you just got a court and win, it just gives you just gives you confidence a gives you momentum and Similarly with similar with Travis on that just kind of carrying that momentum. Food and it doesn't. It almost takes rankings out the window. They just have disbelief when they go and call based on based on the matches they played in know if you compare that to you know the top players in the top say maybe haven't been able to to get out on as much oil. You know they've you know maybe Phoolan a in the first round of the second round in in kind of the build up Golden the opposite way. So you know I certainly think seeing these qualifies, Hey, shows you the you know the. Importance of winning and only the insignificance of you're at she facing across the court. If you win, it's going to give you that confidence to. To to to believe in and you know here, we ought to qualifies in the French Open Quarterfinals for the for the women I think Joel it's it's also it'd just this year we've got to qualify is in at this stage and It Been Yaroslava Federer, I think in two thousand twelve and she was the loss qualify to do that. So it's been eight years a long time that we have. In this and now he's not yeah I mean it's very surprising and I just adding that, I think on Selena I mean my always my question mark was fitting Grand Slam is I always think that she can beat the players the. She's expected to be and really it was a question of what she was GonNa have that. That breakthrough in terms of beating. At all. Top A top five player. At Grand Slam level. That was like that was my question. So. I'm still thinking is fit Selena in head I. Think she's got the right mindset and the right application that she's GonNa she can. Come through this path of the the jewel I I. Agree I'm expecting US Selena Seon Tech Semifinal. By I'm thinks fit SELENA given her experience? In this in this environment and the stages of grandson slam, I, think all you think that's GonNa pay dividends and. Always interesting kind of seeing these these routes people take to. The latter grandsons because we someone. WHO You know they. Is. Through. On. The other hand we call someone like Selena who we feel like kind of a domain team has kind of been biding her experience. You know from slam to slam this level. Over the last. Few years. Sins and I do think now she's kind of ready to take rapa moment and. Well and make sure at least at the very least she gets to the final. The final from this path yeah, I think she's being. There there wasn't jae for quite a while. Now she's consistent being up in the top ten five. She won the WTO for a couple of years by say, no, she's the talent is just the case of actually putting up critical performance together old on that day. When it matters and Yes. I know spiff insight perhaps into teams with do back and listen to our apart with Andy. I think we did a few months ago now. Because it'd be listened to and it's all of the quarters perhaps. To dominate team they joe, what's she make of his his his match against French World Guard to air store little pun there wasn't it little pattern between David. Lieber. Yes This was fantastic to what on. On Sunday afternoon on the TV lying lying on my safe I'm not gonNA lie was a little bit was a little bit hungrier but. It was it was a fantastic absolutely gripping match for me. It was I mean personally for me was match the match of the tournament so far. I, think it had everything and team of came through. It was looking at one stage going to be really comfortable victory for them. He went two sets up six full six full but guests on Hadi. Forever ideas pulled the third and fourth set back before team came through in the fifth six three off three thousand and thirteen minutes. But really, it was just a kind of a just fantastic case really of player who's in his in his pump at the moment. And he's coming is coming through the through the drawer in team but presented with his first real challenge and you know it wasn't challenge that really came out nowhere because you'd think USA champion dominate team two sets up on clay core. The French Open really should be kind of closing an out but I mean. What talent gasoline as. I, think you not is his press conference. Okay. About his specifically gasoline's dropshots were from another planet and. You know that that was particularly for be cut the television that was the that was really the shot that caught my eye and I was sort of wearing fatigues in the sense that you know if he doesn't figure out a way to nullify this dropshot, then you we could have been left with not only Simona halep helper dominic team out as well. Yeah this was I think yes. Safe all the best batch of the tournament there had been laughing at the TV. Every got stolen they pulled off another one of these drop shows I couldn't believe it. Squealing ED TV as well and It was such a shame that right at the end in a couple days drop shots a day failed and Anita gas on just kind of took his took his them off the ball and t managed to get the job done I. Mean I was not expecting after the first sets the. Go five I thought okay. Team stay sets up what normally happens now is the opponent would just kind of fade away. You get tied up the ghost a bit but I'm say impressive Ugo guests on because you know he didn't give up on he he kept going and he kept going with his saw strange game plan and and it paid off and you know that full set he was. Four one up very quickly offs taking the third and and then suddenly we were interface that it was like war is a half. Now I mean I always thought team which. Would would do it because obviously the experience And everything I didn't think that Gaston would actually win a pulse made. Date. Data. Wow. A I was calling expecting. What happened to kind of happen eventually but it was such. An incredible match really wasn't expecting it to be that place at the end and it was very enjoyable. Watch have to say really enjoyed it and I think what was interesting I think what was kind of getting into my head? Those watching as a final on the SOFA was. When when is all of what's happened in the last year two three weeks or whatever going to catch up with Dominic team? Is it going to catch up to him? You know at some point? From now to the end of the tournament, because it felt like during that particularly in that full set I, think it did catch up to him and always kind of wondering. Is. Dominic team tired is he just exhausted from all the efforts he's had to put in. The USA at the French Open is it who catching up to him at this very moment and gasoline was gonna take it volunteers you'll fit but credit me see came through. And kind of reset and one one that fifth set. But I do think there's now going to be that question going forward of. How much how much did don't make team have left the tag kids. Is a question you won't be asked with. Diego Schwartzman. At. The other side of the day. It is it is called FIDO. Every Schlossberg come through. You know very play hasn't dropped a set yet and he won against Lorenza Sinaga in the fourth round and she wants to be paying perhaps the best tennis of the moment you know he just reached the the rame final beat Raffarin reach that and he's he's here he is in the quarterfinals against team and I mean a lot of people. Joe a saying that she schwartzman's go. You know a real road John's getting team I. Think Jim Courier even said that he thinks Schwartzman is the favourite for that one. I think that's Slightly lever slight favor. I mean I think maybe if it went long and it went to five and team was feeling. Fatigue as a result of everything that's. Happened in New York and That maybe you know you could physically give Schwartzman the edge if it if it wasn't not fall, but I still would definitely's team is is the favourite I mean Today it's going to be a different level for Schwartzman isn't playing team over five sets compared to the likes of Sinaga is tricky one. It's You know you look at team. You know he's you. He's absolute physical specimen on on the tennis court and. I don't think I. Yeah I don't think fitness. Wise. That's an issue. I think is more of a mental fatigue mental mental fatigue exactly of of what's what's been going on and? The fact that is been such a quick turnaround different time zones. I mean is surely going to catch up to you at some point I mean we were kind of saying that about diabetic. Not USA. USA American Hall Cool. Streak. And we would decide it's going to catch up to some point but you you know that I think that now is this going to be the question and if there was one player I think who can exploit that it's Diego Schwartzman because as he said, he is in he is fantastic fool he's probably. You know he's beat. Rafa on your beat Raffarin on. On Clay and he dropped only thirty teams getting to the cool to finals. I mean he I think he was actually a little bit surprised how well he was kind of playing going into this tournament he wasn't expecting you know to do what he has done. Eat A he has looked he has looked very, very classy and he's been. He's presented with a couple of skins has sip so far, and now he's got the opportunity to go off to dominate team and you know I think. I see as ratified you're just hoping that he could even if he doesn't beat team, he certainly has the capacity to kind of almost kind of take his legs away if team wants to kind of guy. In the tournament. If we go the assumption that wrath is going to beat Yanic sin- then yeah. I, was just thinking, Oh, I've team and have Ryo ding-dong then. That will help pay them in December as but I mean we should just talk about the final is going to be reference Yanic Cena I mean Rafeh came through against Sebastian quarter very slaves was a bit of a route against the most notable thing is for that I think off the match rougher gave quarter assigned teasha shirt, which is quite sweet. Oversee code is a massive rats and and on twitter our soul, the core was asking fans to send him pictures of the two of them at the net which I thought was quite sweet. He's such a sleigh. This felt like football primary league side plates a League side, the seaside, and like I need to make the most of this opportunity. CHEF. With. A Baby I could. Make some money. But. I mean I, I, watched the match matches well yeah. My overriding feeling was I. Wanted whether. Korda showed rather to oversight too much respect. He was I think maybe he was a little bit starstruck as well because. Yeah it was. It was pretty one sided and I think you know I think the question for me for. Getting into the business end of the tournament is you know how how? Is He undercooked kind of getting into you know potentially a match with well, we've we've accent but then potentially with we've team because you know the the the I think the matches he's played so far the rankings of the players he's paid safer I think they've all been outside the top hundred Yonex Center? Yes. Is a great claycourt play I I didn't even think he's in the top seventy I think I was reading I mean. Do you get the feeling is the Dowell really. Ready and prepares. You, a US forget that he's. Twelve type champion But in this tournament and given the fact that you know he didn't play any tennis. pitted. On hot coal and you know he he he he went to overrun but it came. So again, Schwartzman in in Rome d think d think as a question mark over whether you know how prepared in the Dallas going into. Going into the air going in. The tournament. I think. So I mean I think I think Trivia he played in the third round I think he might have been seventy four something in the world but. For sure I do think that is beneficial to have been tested somewhat before you get to the latter stages because I think otherwise you can maybe. Face a bit of a slow perhaps from WWLTV Tabin the as and you're not quite prepared or. Ready to deal with that quite in this matter that you would if you'd already has become a couple of tests on re, it's about finding the balance isn't it I? Mean I know you can only play he he got a play. Date one Rafeh. I want him to have struggled against Clare's Day in the hundreds will say because I wouldn't bathe well, if he'd been kind of. Having to fight against those players but I think Senate will for sure be a tough test abnd say perhaps that will give rabbit of fine shooting that he might need I. Think Jose just to the team guests on match. Perhaps this will as she really helped aimed because. He's had a someone playing slightly unconventional against am ready taking him unawares and you know he's he he has already but I think actually that will. Will probably help him going into the latter stages potentially a but yes I. There have been instances where rougher has won the friendship and without dropping a set and when he's just. Say I, think it's it's kind of swings around about sometimes. But I mean let's just talk about sin because you know he came through again sashes verve in four sets eight acidified very very well. and very hasn't exactly been in in the best form of even in the US Open, he wasn't paying playing particularly well yet you managed to always win the thing. But obviously, the big talking point from that match was that Zara played whilst feeling in his words completely sick. You know he was seen on court having medical treatment the doctor set to go into the core they gave him like a nasal spray. He said he had been having a fever the day before he wasn't able to breathe A. Basically symptoms and yet he turned up and played his fourth round match. Look. Good for the Fred Sherry organizes it and In the press conference. With, have often he was it was not particularly happy. When when a journalist suggested that he might be? Positive and we should just say actually he did post on his instagram today that he has taken a test and it is negative a but at the same time that we're going to be questioned certainly around this match in terms of. Should've should've? Pan raised to the French Open organizers. Displaying symptoms. Or? Other. The other question is, should the French Open organizers? This is the big question should the French, open? Organizes. Should have had more rigorous testing in place or procedures in place to make sure that. Even, if play wasn't going handrails, they were able to, they were going to be able to kind of. Find them out because it much. If you're in a full round of a grand stab with potential shelter glory etcetera, are you really going to like? All, you really going to like hold your hand up say sorry I accomplished my boyfriend match because you know I'm potential under weather when you don't even know if it's you know you're going to be capable maybe just go to maybe you've just go to code and. I think that's definitely been a you know a lot of big can of worms opened up with this. With this match shouldn't. Yeah I it's interesting. Particularly I think around I mean. Physically around I, think the fever point you know if he's dispatching a high temperature because you know in my head, you know. We're not begin to. You know I went into work a couple of weeks ago in. The the temperature gun pointed at me giving in. To the office and I. If the French Open all doing that two players. Feels like very easy and practical thing to do and it sounds like the. Essentially doing it? Yeah I think they're not doing a I would have expected them to on it with everyone going onto the site eating fans journalists plays everyone. But because I know in America, they were doing the test I think when plays on the the boss, the transport to the to the site that would checking the temperature I think I know that those kind of forehead thermometers and not even the most accurate they give some indication, but it's not necessarily the best. Know it would at least stop players perhaps trying to go under the radar and get away with it. By going onto the site and hoping that, no, one would notice. So they had a temperature or didn't feel so good. If. They had these kinds of measures in place plays with think well, actually are there's no way. I'm GonNa go away with this. Go to come clean an apron up also I think yeah. Doing the tests every five days I think's very with Geeta half Walden basically like the day after his batch I think they you know he'd been sent remind boy the F.. F. T.. But really, he could have that test the day before his match You know could've thought test that day and got the results back quite quickly. You know they're lucky position where they can easily get a test if they will one and then he would have known wouldn't hey whether it was a positive or negative, and then you know if it was positive obviously, you'd hope you would have done the right thing and pulled out. But at least if it got the test back, it was negative before the match he. He wouldn't fat all this kind of. Hostility and the press conferences and on the questions from media need air and everyone alike and everyone judging he's he's lack of judgment I suppose for for what he actually did by coming onto the CY in potentially risking everyone that he came into contact with I mean going boy xanax in is cool. Will he had I mean you know if it was K. Sarah had been posted and she gave it to center and then sit it gives it to refer I. Mean You could like have a big chain of events a totally effected by this. Should abated also. Kind of a of. Critics out there know of observer of the opinion the. This is a guy who you know. We've already got saw it We all live damage. This was president light a few months ago and you know some of his behavious back then. Say would not kind of Didn't chime with the the current situation and again. Looking at this moment and saying, did you did you let anything from you know two three months ago? and. You know. For INS various corner. They'll say absolutely not because if he had learned something, he may he would have would have hand-raised. I I'm a bit more. I think I'm a bit more on the side of I. Think the French Open pro I feel like the French Open done more in terms of identity. You can rely I can necessarily rely on on plays in these situations where there's prize money at play Brian King points the show being a grand slam champion, a available I. Think you can rely on these guys to just kind of feel like it's a civic duty and do the honorable thing. To put a hand up and say. I think I think I'm displaying sentence I think that needs to be more rigor in terms of having. Procedures in place to make sure that you know regardless of you know the the person that everyone everyone is treated and everyone. You know. Everyone is in the same position and is. Make sure. We have a you know a safe tournament because at the moment it feels like. Tonight it feels like with this Grand Slam. Competitive USA. Bit more sort of. Having a bit more sort of utterings from. Players and. People on site in terms of. How? calculated. Secure. You know this, this Grand Slam is. Yeah, I mean, there were two positive tests some goal singles. But nothing unique from any other kind of no other players apart from these have apparently tested positive. But I mean, in a way, I'm surprised haven't been more because of the lack of measures in in place but at the same time, I take new necessarily yes they could've temperature checks. On site but I think I, no fear of actually had the fever during the match I. think he said it was. The night before the or the night before that So I. Could still have been. He people could still have come and not have a high temperature carrying. So as any say much the tournament can-do, you've got to rely as well an individual gt the same as like in a society now, like if I felt like I had symptoms and I had to go into work or you should not go into were key to the the advice is that you isola- until urine tested and found out the result so? I don't think he couldn't say is one all the it is a bit of both as an it, it's personal responsibility are needing structures in place to enable people to make the decision that is a safest for for wider society. But I mean I know that obviously, I can understand where it was coming from if he was sinking yes, it probably isn't covert. I didn't want to give up on potentially making it a grandson cooed final because I pulled out and it was just like a cold. That is going to go away in a day I can understand that rationale but I think that the live was gay or anew say his position as a top sportsmen. that he needed to have. About it and All of the you know he knew that he was going to get a lot of questions and I'm surprised that she he admitted it. So openly after the press conference I I personally, if I was I would have been like, yeah I didn't play well wasn't failing one hundred percent just feel quite tied. I wouldn't have gone said I. Call Breathe and I had a fever like in a way that to me is quite I do. Not. Think that therefore, there wouldn't be a big line of questioning if he's just going to re really open and honest then. Today. Surprising I mean this is what do you think about Sasha's Shitty should played this match. Dot. Should it be on the? On the French Open let us know better for now. We're GONNA. Take a quick outbreak and we're going to be back off towards to talk about all the action from today. 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Issue now, the inherited favorite from Saleh because they're all, they're all think a significant number of fans and the people in the press people in the media who would probably say you know Patrick vetiver is is looking is looking very good and you know even though she's not been the greatest kind of clay court player in the possum using this is I know you have second appearance in quarterfinal? Ever Ah at the French. Open. Nothing first twenty twelve. A law people saying that she is now she is now the favourite I mean she came through quite easily against Jiang hsi-wei six, two, six, four, one, hour, twenty, five minutes. I mean, what do you think I mean I feel like we're on a collision course for potentially. A cannon semi final. But do you think what would you think about Kavita? What did you think she stands kind of getting into the second week of the French Open. Well. She's Lower Ziegler next and have to say that Christmas the favourite for that one given. A format grandma she's a two-time select Sim champion and Reach final last year. So I mean, yes she's not being at this stage of girls for years but Her ability is is still that and have formed today was very impressive. Hairpin wasn't really anything ever going to particularly challenge. For just managed the Powell Haredi so you. Would expect. To come through against Zeke but I think. I think, yeah that that semi that we will kind of looking with. That would be with Kenan is the maybe the Perhaps, that will be the batch for the tournament riddick given the fact that they're the only to slam champions left in it but some. Yeah, I'd like to see Kavita win another slam I think. She was quite, very strong. Thanks Day because you know the horrendous knife attack a couple of years back and I, think it was three years ago the at road and where she came back from that I almost back so. I think it'd be back in at this stage in the last eight of the tournament hair. It's it does mean a lot to her and I think if she can kind of channel that that. I I wouldn't be surprised if she went and won the tournament Joe. Yeah she's always kind of bear isn't a dangerous player which puts it all together. It's interesting because we look at. Grand Slam record she's those two titles at Wimbledon and I think that's where you know see the British public fell in love with her but we don't really associate with being able to do it on a on a clay court and you look at. How qualities in terms of you? Now, she is a very powerful hitter from the baseline and you you. You know obviously that works very well on a on across court. but yeah, I. Think into the French Open on clay cool I was just wondering. How how how is that going to work because she really sort of a loopy. Heavy for. So apply she hit like a little bit more flat but I mean, she still has even these calls. She still has kind of the. She still has the power to hit clean winners I mean she hit twenty three. Against Changsha today. And Yeah I just think I just wonder if you know she's going to be able to just kind of blow away the competition with with that sort of that sort of play wherever she can whether she can keep I know she's going to have hodder opponents if down the line with potentially. Kevin Kennon in the in the semifinals Siegelman as well is going to be you know no slouch. So. Yeah it's. It's. It's still kind of I. Think there is danger that. I think. Looking at butterball feeder before the total dating, we were thinking the. Candid. Could be the loss to seats. The law seeds left it on in the bottom half of the draw but. Hey. That's that's where and you know this French Open has been unpredictable but convertible I think has shown so far that she's been A. She's been pretty solid and lift up. I mean she's lived up to her seating so far yeah. She hasn't come through with any major dramas and I think Joe is most natural SF space or the one that we would associate with she has won a few of the Klay Premiere Events Unai she's one Madrid Tom's thing. So I think especially with indoor play she's she's she quite likes that so I think necessarily this. Is. A, really fall score is going to be perhaps a massive issue I today I mean Zeke. Men today she came through against Paulo. DOSA. In straight-sets, she's off to that first round. Of It and the drama of the double bounds she's been making swift progress through and. Some fog still to lead that game. LITERALLY WITH PEOPLE ARE PAINTING OF DOOMSDAY scenario we've kind of like. Ziegler. Zeke. But there's always going to win the French Open. How she could live for the rest of our life knowing that she double bouts did that I rattled to get rich. How she lived with. Renault in that. Scenario just yet but. Hov Today Zeke decided to during her payments medical timeout. She went over to get a nice top of noodles or something. And then she decided that with a full eating eating a box of carbs and she said she, she was kind of a bit loan call. She wants to have a a sugar rush but she didn't really found see like on an open on she wants something really substantial. So she also. Get some some up and she just sat ain't as a say I love I love how you the script or the take out via physio. Is Not the. really interesting though because it's not something. We see. If I can remember. The. Incident the. Brought to my mind. Maybe for British fans, there's been Marcus Willis. A think a few years ago. I had a can of coke and a snickers bar on shaven. It gave me kind of flashbacks of that but I've never really seen like this was like A. A meal. Look a proper meal and I wanted like how does? Cow Does Not sit well what do you play like a ten dispatch because? Yeah, I was a bit a bit like who is that? Is that such a good idea you think? Still on your stomach Keno that. Maybe she has a really fast I gestured day or she just didn't think about she just wanted the cops. What would you? What would you water if you're if you're in a position and he had a physio and you wanted to put an order what would be your Go-to? Take. A professional athlete I suppose I should be and have like Ajello in today's of. Electrolyte Joe's, but I have to say you sculpted Marcus. Willis saying a snickers bar I probably have. To hang sticky. When I was younger officer I used to delight swimming or whatever I or Arado something. I'd always crave nowadays most milkshakes she get like, I. have as my like recovery drink when really I should've just had milk or whatever. But I was just like the chocolate as well. But yeah, I go for some chicken wings I. Won't face. Some spicy chicken wigs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was that was that was quite surprising. I know. Yeah. But DOSA was I think she was troubled by her back in that match? Yes. saw her Nicole flat-out kind of taking a medical timeout for it but some I mean convertible one. One matching at the US Open in two, thousand, fifteen, six, one, six, one, so. Again I don't. I'm not expecting too much of a surprise that feel like Kavita will come through that. Let's go onto the other team matches. One has taken place one has not taken place the one place today. Most French player Gloss French play in the women's drool. Fiona Farrow versus Kennan. of the United States and in Kenan came through that two, six, six, two, six, one. Yeah, it was I mean I watched the first Saturday night. She saw Pharaoh ferry is GonNa win this but can't in I think. That I mean I think she's got as much as she's a good tennis bath. Mentally I think she's she's superior to of her. Her opponents arrivals, and regardless of what situation she finds herself in. She's way she always seem to be able to kind of. Cruel herself out of a sticky situation. And I think she was able to do that and she just I, mean, she really just turned it in and gave ferry no chance in sets tune three I mean sixty, six hundred and it was it was quite a turnaround from that I set. Yeah, I was going to be much closer than that. Once. Pharaoh had taken that I set and Kenan of was a break off in the second I thought Oh real matching onset. But yeah, just kind of the more weight on the more it went away from Farrow and and Kenan. Yes. She she totally opther. Hey game off to the end of that first set and. Had got the early break and then ferry came back and wrote off in a six games on the troll and you know much to the delight of the of the home crowd. But said, yeah I think Kenan she's she cut it flies under the radar doesn't sheep because I think she has a very strong mental as she but it's a very quiet kind of fortitude. She has on the cool and you know I. Really respect that because she doesn't make a song and dance about anything she just kind of get some with it. Does she quite nice. Say. Yeah, I? mean. He wouldn't. It weighed the coach new. Coach they pictured. Sitting next to Feroz coach I. Think he moved. During the match and that was all sorts of conspiracy theories on like a February. Coach coaching from the sidelines in. Canon. Wanted to sit next to make sure it was happening. Lighting each other or it was like. Yeah. I took. I think he was able to do with that. I think the thing I think a lot of people university would integrates on was likely will literally sitting right next to each other which he gave was not a good look. For the French. Open. And I do think there is no I think there is a no rule emerging picture here in terms of. The French Open organizers and the tournament organizers maybe need to look you know the protocols they have in pastries ample because yeah I feel like we're getting it from different aspects from the players or wherever is from the this TV pictures. That was a that was a bit of a bizarre situation see. If I was ferries coach I would have been just on a passive aggressive. Shot shuffled seats long. After cannons dad liked to. Someone's on a sits on the train. opposite. You a mouse. I like. The, next courage now. But Yeah. I coach literally left as quick as possible. Wants the the the match was decided. Cannon yet goes onto the quarterfinals and will play on Ziebel or Daniel Collins that match was postponed due to bad weather from today. That a nice warm up in the right. Message be saying other these guys out she paid because. They what they want. They wound up in the rain they made them onto. Whilst, it was still raining. and. They did their warm-up I think both Utah call into a bit like. Is going on the heads to the ME's expressions on their faces and not like McEnroe. You cannot be serious sort of basically, and then they call us Ramos who was umpiring. He wasn't happy either an, and basically they just got to bags and went off before like. She's playing. because. It was still raining and I really dating a why they bought them out. It was just absolutely pointless I. Didn't he made that decision but. We've seen bad decision making from the the French. Even before to be fair with with the scheduling especially share so. I mean they'd be waiting around all day as well. Say it was it was bit bizarre but. We gave for straight doing exactly. What will look voter tomorrow morning instead. Yeah I mean that much just just for context I mean there was there was. Potentially an argument to put that match on under the reef. Under the Reef instead of out my verses chronic. Pasta because. The winner potentially of you bill would play three. Three matches back to back to back. So Yeah I. Think it was a difficult decision. I still think it was the right one. That's. Yeah. It's just shame they couldn't get it done today but Yeah. Let's quickly move onto the menstrual kind of running out time. Yes came through Curiel Demetrio today straight-sets six, three, seven, six, six, two, will face rebe love, which is a repeat of the. Hamburg final. which was all while it was last Sunday r-y-b-e-c-k through Malton Future Vich in four sets foot Chevik will be himself. I think he was in three of those sets. And managed managed to somehow lose I think a great credits every bad feeder I think has. Quite low actually philosophy seasons, and I think that this was a prime example of that. So I mean that much I think for me promises to that match promises a lot because the Hamburg final was unreal. Ding Dong, the best three I'm fully expecting surpassed rube left to be another Ding Dong by the best of five. Yes I think be quite nice one and I think Novak will be quite happy to to play the winner of that in the semi final at very tired when perhaps. Yes I mean. Came through. I. When I saw that she was had a set point to you get the fourth set. So to go and five, but I I think managed to get that job done avoided going on and on and on I mean, let's not forget that both ripple of Ansett surpass they both could have got out in the first round. They were both tea sets down You know same query the match against five to in that third set. So they could both of being a home right now and they've managed to to. Actually, told away three since since as g I rounds and I, I'm sure that first round. Lead lag was with the Hamburg final and it does raise the question is a good idea to play the week before. Especially what he knew the final is going to be on the first day. Of the itself. I guess don't for them. Do you think it's paid for the quarter-finals? Look at the results it has done that by fit in the quarter-finals even say I I still think I'm the camp of I just don't think if I was a player. I just don't think it's a good idea to play the the week the week before maybe the you know the situation at the moment they felt like they needed to gross absolutely every single opportunity to get on a tennis court and that's why. They felt like they needed to pay Hamburg but. Yeah. I just think I. I still think it's the best idea in terms of. If you're playing a final not weekend, and then you're going straight into Grand Slam. Newer expecting to go deep. You know I know how fatigued. You might be kind of you know going. From one to the other when you might want a bit more time to settle. Sipho me I. Still I still a bit like I'd I know why Peop- top players play those told me the week before but at the same time base in the quarter-finals by. Doing well, and you know they should should give they should give fans a bit of a tree. that. I was just since HBO's facility no one in Strasbourg week before say she's she's Dot Orion say I mean I think it's a risk risk is neck. You know you risk an injury sort of last minute happening and Fatigue but it can can be helpful. especially I mean I guess she maybe these no new. What's good for them they knew that they need that kind of. Rana form going into going into a big event better. I mean, let's just look at what match was moved onto shut tree this evening. Big and stand out Meyer PCB has while not pretty comfortably I think it was sixty-seven, five sixty. So. It will be a rematch show of the fourth round of the. Pitch. Davis to. Say I mean PCP he's done well, the second. And a row where he's gone deep and eight he's exceeded I think he's eating his potential. He's he's making the most of things and here we probably just hoping for another. Surreal experience in the next look at it again. Lights and Twice but. My. Actually. Think lightning struck twice because Cape. We watched that batch should between sorry the between about jock rich and can catch it off today Novak Djokovic actually did hit a linesman but ob accidentally no, I grow invoked. which was really I was just like what it was of the odds. Of, your sort of movement. But I mean, yeah, I mean a just just a very quick fun on jock rich because again similar to Rafael Nadal. He's come through very easily so far straight-sets wins, and we were talking about ref on the Dow wherever he's going into, you know the back end of the French Open undercooked and you know I, I feel like with Nevada Jackovitch even though he's gone through the same re dropped any sets. A very similar path. I actually think he has been tested in Karen Catch today even though the school I six, four, six, three, six, three I don't actually think that did justice to to catch performance who? Thought put up a really good game and actually was I. Think he actually he was set to be honest but I mean, it just shows you how well Djokovic just playing. specifically, the with that drop shot get to May turn into A. Identify what the batch was. Absolutely. Incredible. But yeah, it's it's still feels like with. The the VICH procession. So of guy on button who knows maybe chronic vista will. Provide him a stunner, a stern test, maybe he'll be his boogeyman. But. Yes, I mean. I. I thoroughly expected him to come through as he did save felt like every time I. Go up ever a moment. Break backwell or he a whatever you know. Break came straight back and he was able to to consolidate anything say such is life. Joe Such is life I'm just before we wrap up on the doubles unfortunately Britain's Josue spray and at partner Rachi Ram route of the doubles lost in the quarterfinals against at. Pavitt. Suarez say that was A. Seven. Five in the third-set suburb ashamed Jamie. Murray is paying tomorrow in in his final against loss. Jay's champions Joe I. lost. Everything for them dating. You'll faves I'm. Joe, I have to say, just before we start recording I was watching Freddie Nelson in the. against. One of my favorites is playing with Tim. Gemini. Unfortunately. They had t matchpoints lost. In the lowest setting. Gossip say nothing. But. Alas such as such as life. And that actually the women's doubles. Talking about Severe Kenan I think she's still in the women's doubles with. Bethany Matic's ions and ecosphere intact was a also playing stand in the women's doubles say I think she? She's into the quarters So yeah, Lots Lot's going on with those. We've got lots of matches tomorrow recalled five singles much on. Philip shot trae because of the delayed. Collins. Your Ball match and then go yell the double school fine. Olsen. Every four, we could Ari well have that wrapping of a doubles and singles champion. 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"Hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the show with joe kim. Tennis poke costs by fans on today's episode fact by our crowd funds beat gory and nerissa develops mouthful. Medvedev wins marseille majestic muga. Ruth takes to buy an navy. Jackovitch becomes the longest reigning world number-one in. Acp history came another set of tournaments done and dusted on the atp. And w ta tools. And i've got to say we've had some finals today on sunday. I have had to have my mind. Elsewhere is by day in the uk. Today so although. I have been watching some of the tennis. Been a little bit distracted as well. We've sort of mum. Gt and flowers chocolates and all the rest of soa yes. It's been a bit distracted today. Well i hate my mother. Girling's had a nice had a nice day. And you've been achievable sunjay. I'll have to say. I was hard at work making making dinner for my mom in the kitchen. Quite tired now not going to lie. Takes a little alfie. But i'm looking forward to chatting all things tennis with the joe as we do every sunday evening. So yeah we had we had. Let's start with hawks later tournaments as as per let's begin with atf and our jail hall. We were eagerly anticipating the return of roger federer and actually he ended up losing to the eventual champion. Who i guess took us all a bit by surprise wasn't a expecting nicholas bassil. Ashville it's walk. Came with the title. But a winner again on the hp beating roberto battiste gate in straight-sets. Yeah it was a final. I think many people would have been expecting bautisa Who is he's. He's actually been pretty good this week. I'm bassil ashville bachelor with the upset. Seven six six two very good performance behavior for him. But i think he was quite himself. He had zero expectations going into the tournament. I think he'd only one to his previous sixteen matches and lost in. The first round is four events. So really yeah. This tie to win has come completely out of nowhere. In the fact that he won the event from match point down against roger federer rule people in the quarterfinals. Really really impressive stuff. I mean he is a very very very solid competitor on the tour. I think he's he's won three titles at five hundred level before so. I think he's good at capable in his locker but yeah it was still a bit of a surprise. It's coming to the end of the week to see his name kind of up in lice as the trophy kind of winner. Particularly with you know it was. It was pretty pretty later. Draw particular. You know we've dominic thiem as well as federa. It was yeah. It was a bit of a surprise. Rube laugh as well. It was a surprise to see that name as champion. Yeah i think. Paul from the federal match he did have quite a kind draw nerf strope he had molly siri but that federal match you know. He came through seven five in the third. Say he saved a match point. And then after that. You know taylor fritz in the this as roberta about he's degree yes he's a he's atop like while he's just outside the top ten now but he has been a top ten. A day is fantastic. But he's also beatable fine owen. I mean for me. I was shocked ripley at. She has a play in the end. Because i have been following it much but had well. He goes into the semifinals. Without having played a match g to a by and then cheap cavers which i think is something. We don't see very often out of funny. but also you know i. It's not really deserving. I guess you know if you consider the other losing on this data fritzy hots up play three matches and then he walks away at the end of the week with the same amount of points as andre replay. He hasn't sort of stepped from koi. It's just a a weird kind of situation ban. it was a really weird quirk. Wasn't it 'cause. I don't often see back to back You know rules leading to your progression. I think would have appreciated it. You eat a wig. Today he probably would have been happy with a little bit. This high mothball. I guess it was a bit of luck of the draw. I've seen some people kind of talk about. So if the unfairness in the sense that someone like taylor fritzy and yet to play eighty eight games or route to reach the semi finals. Replay played absolutely zero eight bit. I mean what can you do if you if you're injured doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like he can play on call than you know. That's you know that's that's their choice. And replay. is. The you know the benefactor of that. I do say i think the i think what may have been factored in the decisions of future. Vich and gasquet is is how relief has been playing of light and they probably would have thought anything other than one hundred percent. It's just not worth and in those cases it just seemed like it was but yeah very very odd kind of situation to see replay could be in that same it without having any any any sort of competitive match-play by case against him. Because i mean he went and then lost at about circuit. Use bitcon of battle-ready coming coming through dominic thiem riley appel can retire first round every lost in straight so it didn't necessarily kind of work in his favour from that point on. Yeah exactly. I was thinking nine probably a hindrance in the end i mean it's a five hundred so he's probably not fast about it because he's win the funny he's about the it doesn't matter i mean. Let's talk about federer's well because we saw him back. His first team matches since long long. Layoff the dan evans match in the first round. That was the second round technically but federal. I much back. That was so close. Data's so unlucky. I thought yes seven five in the threats that just got breaking right the end and yet really frustration. I mean don. Evans had set point in the first set as well. We could easily have one that certain details of to pay back to a third. And i mean federer was probably quite lucky to the data. That's been unfortunate but federal you know had a match point in in that goes final against slash villi lost and he seems to be kind of making a having matchpoints amazing of a say the wimbledon final gets against joke of it should be some other examples since well. I guess over the last couple of years where he's held match points and then lost. I take this is sort of a sign. The he's kind of the twilight stages of his career. He's just not as mentally tougher closing. How much is a date. Night what do you think that is something that he needs to really worry about. It's it's not really a massive crisis. United says his first tournament back chief fifty nothing to worry about. I mean the expectations going into this tournament. I think we're very low even from roger. Federer yourself you know we went. I mean even as fans i think even the most hardened effet fans probably weren't expecting him to go one win the tournament. I think came to have to really tough back to back. Three set matches On on the tour this is around somewhere. You know you have a a recovery day in between but to do these kind of back to back on on quite a quick around. I think he would be. I think pretty happy with with how he performed. I think we saw some glimpses of the of the roger. Federer vote in terms of his shot. Making particularly in that that dan evans match. So sometimes i think don evans would just have to get to get from one of the great civil time Yeah i think he will be. I think he will be happy but as he said is it is a it is a sort of one sort of chink. In yama of someone who is as good as roger federer is that it is up for match point op situation. That he doesn't really excel because since the salt of two thousand seventeen. He's lost seven of twenty seven matches from matchpoint up so it is a bit of a happy and i'm not sure what i'm not sure what he can do in practice to negate that. But it's if it's something he's more aware of now because of this because it it just seems to keep happening and it happened in india har and yeah a you know it's not gonna be on. He's going to be disappointed. But it's one of those things that if it does continue and it happens in big tournaments that you know that it could be the difference really between him having that into that big three slam to raise it could be the difference between him being the outright number one number two potentially. Yeah that is quite quite right and guys. If you go match point down against federal. Do not panic hype. I mean i think he's very much focusing on and he said that he's still needs another five or six weeks fitness wise to get back to one hundred percent so tasty enough you know. He's not playing to bhai this coming week. he's going to practice instead. I think it's about managing his schedule. Managing his nee issue as well which seems like it's going to be a long term thing now just will not come. He said it doesn't sound like his knee is one hundred percent. It doesn't it just sounds like it's going to be the you know. The best is going to be able to have his knee now. Is that like eighty percent and kind of hit managing that and for him. It sounds like he said himself news. Five or six weeks more of a fitness in unpracticed. And that's kind of one of the reasons he's decided not to play in In dubai say so you know this obviously kind of way to go. But i think it is interesting to think you know. This is a comeback and it sounds like his knee is going to be there or thereabouts. Potentially inhibiting him and it's all about sort of managing that situation. It's feels like a very different soda comeback too. I think earlier on in his career. Where i think we were kind of almost. Expect him to come back win. A grand slam and effing will be right as rain again. I don't think we getting think we're going to get those be very impressed if we do. Get those kind of situations in this combat. Yeah exactly. I think we should expect expect i. It's just as she got older. You know you have to manage condition. State need say we shall see when federal is next back on the call what he manages to today. But i'm really pleased with donovan's against federal say. I pegged out evidence to win that one and he came as they say close. Yeah just a on bass nashville. I'm eyebrows were actually raised quite bit when joe by him winning because there is at gene ongoing domestic violence charge against him in his country of georgia. I think his ex wife has a has a restraining order against him and an herrings. Aw own going. So he has been granted bail and if he is found guilty of this charge. You know he would she tennessee facing jail time so wall so with sky golden. He's he's allowed to keep playing on the tour so you know. This has raised eyebrows with people who've agreed that he should be able to keep his career up and then keep playing and there's a lot of criticisms have come out you know and i guess rightly so for for. This is a bit of a bone of contention. I guess the more of famous case with maybe a bruder audience is the the alexander zverev case. The is sort of the movement of c- came to light loss season. And you know this is a case that sort of similar to that and again a short is sort of shows. I think the you know. The i think still has a lot to do in some regards and some will say you know. They're sort of skirting this issue. They wanna get involved. It could open up massive can of worms that they just don't want to be associated with and that's maybe why they're not doing anything like a a suspension for example. But at the same time when you can have players like zara massively on the tool that they might be kind of associated with this news and if it does escalate it might put more pressure on the atp to to do something about it. Because from what i understand at the moment is really like really doing anything about it and it just letting him carry on his his day job. Some people will think that's fine until innocent until proven guilty incredible source of siri. But that's going to be people who are gonna have two different points of view. Yeah just the silence and we saw how silent they worry. I even think that. That's really. I guess the issue they haven't said anything so we will see if well i'm gonna say something just because he's won a toy to raise that debate again because i think that's going to say We'll we'll keep everyone posted if there is any developments. Let's look at the dubai event. Joe next stay. Let's say in the middle east. We had the wpa. One thousand events out in dubai and agree has come home with the title. It's ffa title in two years. Which is incredibly surprising. Because she's been in such good form. I'm surprised she has to. She's having nothing absolutely nothing to show for the. Yeah the magnificent form that she has been particularly since the salt of the season. She you know we. We speak about during the australian open match asaka where she had match points. You felt like that could have been a grandson. The level of play being shaped by both campuses and. She's really just kind of carried that all in she's eighteen and four on the season. And yeah i mean thus title since i think cincinnati in two thousand seventeen eight titles several. I mean it was just another you know. It was another really consistent kind of a performance all the way through. And i think we'll be most impressive for is is the way that i think as she bounced back from kind of last week. Remember that final against vertical. Absolutely blown away. I think it was kind of like you know one and two. I think you'll be really impressed with how she's kind of responded data and put that aside and just kind of blitzed the competition in front of the matching i think against saba lenka i think for me that was the final it was a real. Another three-set tussle. I think that another three sets us a last week but yet moog aretha just just seems to be playing great. Tennis the mid. Yeah she had another czech player in the final this week barak rich who who is better known for her doubles. She's been well number one in doubles and this was her second Second singles final. So she still looking to get her first singles title but Yeah meager monterey two years ago so that was lost to the heck out of loss. Big toyota was sentenced in seventeen. But yeah she came through shrilled tech this week as well love and four. It's not everyday that you bagel ecosphere and tech who has been in good form winning the loss weight and then she said salamanca match quite pivotal and elise merchants as well. He's always obeyed. Impre jason form so a great week from meek. Aretha finally managing to get title. This is a fine of the year an opposite. She reached those the final loss. So she's being. She's waiting in good for wall but actually managing to finally crack the win. This time i think came the best paul of this as a fan just watching on tv was the the setup in her coach's box because obviously she would normally have cheetah martinus at but i think she was in isolation i think she tested positive for coronavirus says. She was in a hotel room and as a result couldn't be in the box. So what was the next turn. They had a knife owed or like a selfie. Stick doing little livestream of the batch straight from the playable switch. It just looks. I've ever seen that before. But you know we're undersea situation. Do i you suck assaults prevail. It was so funny to see that. I guess that's the you know she. I think mcgraw love style. You know that partnership is working really. Well i guess it's testament of how far they've taken it the set up to make sure the botanist watch player from playbook even if she called there didn't have a tv. She could have watched shows year. We're gonna come down her like you can't livestream this match from your phone. Even if it's from player box contravenes like total and regulations. I suppose you have. It's just nice to have like to know. She was watching watching. Should happen space but yeah the was quite amazing. Another interesting well. We had a jessica peculiar doing quite well. This week reaching another quarter-final she absolutely thrashed karleena. Pick who is having a terrible run of foam. Yeah terrible yeah continuing. That was so bad. Sort so i was expecting pollutes at. She come three months and she. She was often thrashed in that law. Set six but anyhow another fairly good week for gala i mean peculiar amazon's playing winning in say mertens is probably the most consistent player maybe not come two grandsons but on the toy i feel like she always gets to their other abouts in every single tournament. She's she's played in the most unlucky players with the ranking freeze. And and how that sort of playing out with a moment because i think consistency should be rewarded with a top ten top ten months. And she's not she's not reaping the rewards a not for her is probably the next best thing if you call on the title and getting all of the business ends of these events you know the semi finals a final whatever is really paying any dividends at the main something. She will be a kind of a bit the stingl this work and it's she's playing wordy consistently in really well but it's really doing anything full. Have but some yeah. That was quite a few. It was quite interesting bagels. I thought came in it. By because as you said the the mertens peculiar peculiar match. I mean i think peculiar was seven five five two up and then mertens just came back in that third set. I mean think peculiar was a bit tired thing. I think she'd just literally had run out steam because she came through qualifying week in in doha into. Yeah just seeing a think. She didn't have any guests. Gas left to give an is kind of run away. It was very it was very It was a very tough match. I think for those first two sets particularly. Oh say when coca goal fangio type gonna stop playing each other in yeah again. They fade and showtime came out on top of that one and reaching the semifinals as well which is teichmann creature grows. Probably not what you had written down for thousand level event that we it was going to open up. We've talked about the fact that philly has also been in the best of form and it wasn't really a surprise in that top. After i mean the two quarterfinals and beyond they was all unseeded players big opportunities to be made and they would take him by the. You know the unseeded players. Yeah go then go on seated pays man. Let's talk about say joe. Atp fiftieth and as we mentioned in the beginning dunno medvedev has won this event. So yeah he's a he's the new world number-two and you know you still also tomorrow the fifteenth of march and he came through against in three sets today. Six four six seven six four so Yeah backing up. I guess he's new ranking position with with a win. I think this is ten. Th title overall all of which have come into hardcore said. When will he get his first. Non hearts title. That may come very soon. Indeed who knows. But yeah i mean jamaica make of his performance this week. They just the done dick but he needs to do. Yeah i mean it was pretty routine through to the finals. It was it was a tight affair in that final against at who likes to come to the net method. I've had to kind of figure that and find a solution but you talked about. I think in his is press conference the fact that he feels most comfortable in a hardcore. He knows what the solutions are. When kind of presented with a challenge. And i think you know even even knows quite a tight scoreline. He was able to kind of figure out on court know the fact that app i was looking to get to the net. He's a bit of a net rushing. We know he's a great doubles player but he was at. That was able to kind of figure that out. And i think it's complete contrast to the beach. We have of of medvedev raw to dab of just obliterating his racket. And i think in contrast to that i think this shows you that if he if he can keep his cou could like good things happen and if he if he doesn't keep his cool bad things happen and i think that's a very simplistic analogy. But i do think if you look at how he played in rotterdam. Look at how he played in marseilles more composed medvedev. I think will reap more so of rewards send dividends in terms of titles I don't see him as much. As sort of novak djokovic which even stars or play might be similar. I don't maybe see him. More as novak djokovic sort of anita get dolphin get maybe this tournament prove up. Yeah i mean. Usa have says novak djokovic down the other edmund get frustrated by but yeah i mean. He came through yada cups. Play in the uh the quarterfinals. Say good to see said about but Yeah it was a very sort of standard week. Spos- medvedev Frank keeping his cool attitude and actually interestingly joe. He's got he's got to number two now. Which is great for him but that people have been saying he could actually get number one this year which is kind of like rally but actually if you look at it as about two thousand points between him and novak and in a lot of points coming up to to defend we'll see wimbledon points frenchman. Medvedev doesn't really have many points to defend On the client girls because he's not particularly being great those in the post. So could you see it happening. He would be well number one. I mean that would be quite something if say. I don't know what the i think the biggest obviously the biggest unknown is as you know how while medvedev is gonna play on grossen play. It's the sort of you know. It's the name. Naomi osaka question on on the men's side. I think in terms of you know we've seen medvedev really proficient on a yossi Ten titles of come on that surface but if he wants to really kind of be there. They're about to the whole season the very tall. He's going to be able to do it across the surfaces and that for me is probably the biggest kind of influence in terms of if if he does achieve weld number one. If it is possible that is going to have to change novak djokovic going the other way i think is also can to change as you said. He's got a low of two points to defend so if he has a couple of tournaments again. That could play in in memphis saver. I think his tightly up in the air at the moment. I mean we talked about the rag gigs last week. It i feel like it changes quite often. So i didn't know if that is going to benefit i think as time goes on. I think we're gonna know if it's going to benefit commit or if it's going to benefit medvedev i think if this was like the old franking system then. Yeah think medvedev. Daphne would have had a chance. But i think as the biggest unknown is. Can he turn his his onto the onto. The client and gross schools like naomi soccer. You know she's looking for results on the other services now and very much say we'll medvedev. Just new achy. Joe for the double was in marseilles. We had quite surprising. Win from lloyd gloss pool and hello vara. Blue cross will bring bringing british player. He has had well. Hasn't really had many spores. Oh you have to say but many would have heard of him. At least they beat saunder. Arens and david powell seven five seven six to win the doubles size in marseille. Beat the skupski's on repeat the seat surpass brothers as well. That's great that's gospels. I eighty tour level doubles title. And he's going to go up to a just outside. The top hundred in the doubles say yet another british tennis by making waves in the doubles. And hopefully you know. This is not what i think. He's got a good partnership with with helio var. They've got the challenger finals recently. So obviously that's good that they manage should transfer able to the atp tours. Well that was really really impressive from them I i wasn't aware that they have been kinda plying that trade on on the challenger but obviously that gelling well as a partnership and they've really ton of taken that opportunity kind of on the the. Atp tool i know this is going to be a permanent thing in terms of that partnership as a doubles team but Yeah really a really happy to see that that success because gospel is one of those pairs. I think very talented individual. But we we really hey a lot about. But maybe as a doubles player. He's potentially kids. Do a bit of a i don't know like domingo or joining marian ply maybe on the pick and choose to tap some of the you know the atp to fifty some of the low hanging fruit events. I made the most of those opportunities that are ideas coming at the maidment to these players on the china to a when draws need to be filled with players and because of covid restrictions etc pay as not wanting to go anywhere they can you know they'll happily make the numbers and yeah. They really kind of took that opportunity this week. Definitely and another player who's taking opportunities out in guadalajara. Is sarah serie base tumor of spain. So great week for spain on the wj tall as two titles are t She came through against bouchon. Sixty seven five in the final out in mexico. So this was Sarah's rebates thomas i w j title. She's seen her there and thereabouts. I take many listeners will remember. She's the one that beat. A name is soccer in the fed cup last year. She's also the player. Joe terrible loss blanca from six four. Love up she got some notoriety for that loss from stroke from such a strong position. But yeah i think both i actually just. I just think both of those players broussard ansari as i was looking at that records. Kind of like in finals and think post quarterfinals invents and they both don't have good records in the business end of events. I think boo shot him. Finals is now one in seven which is not great saribas. Told my i didn't think was a very good record pace kind of quarterfinals as well so you can see it. Meant a lot to her reaction. What she she won the won the won the tour. I think who says she was five down in that second set. So you know she's been in. She's been in sticky in bad situations before going back to that a straw the incident against sabah lenka so she must have been above deserves the opportunity to call seattle her first wnba title. Yeah exactly and this was kind of fifty level event so she did well to come through beating the seconds aid discovering in the semifinals. as well. and i'm rosca tops h. e. fell early to at least a better coach writer. He winds up. Getting through to the semis. But i guess a good week for Probably have i inquire y all se. Although she's not winning the mates positive. I came who say just on be shod. I mean fair play. She was one of those players who went from leon all the way to mexico to play this. I think she said the rives the night before round one match different time zone difficult today probably did know what swat and she's stick a chance and yet got scott to the final. Say you know really really impressive stuff from from her. Really vindicating that walcott. I think people would. If the some people i think unfairly so of questioning but yeah really really doing well and i hope she can kind of continue this form and we can see her back. I think west. She belongs on the on. The wpa manger tool. And i'd love to see more. I can matchups of bichon versus the higher ranked took place. I always think there is a batches. She gets kind of both fired up about that match with sharapova after she had these words she she could are junkie. And i want to see more of that. He's matchups because. I think that she really has that fire in the belly when she gets she gets in those jaws and is up against players who are in the top ten. Whatever i definitely. And just the last of joe of this week our in santiago chile. I like the sponsor of this. When it's tough men podcast but yeah christian garin who is the home and top seed. He's currently as we recording this. I'm afraid we we didn't really want to stay up. T lay say is actually underway. The final recording. It's a set. oh christian garin is playing back niece. Who according to my live. Scores up has just taken a toilet. Break how fascinating. It's et cetera. Always to settle six four garin first at seven six bagnis in the second. So i mean i would expect garin which come through that walden but Kundu bagnis allchin tinian unseeded player working his way through the draw into the final and i was watching out. See what cerignola would do this week for written which one well well francisci fell at the first one. Manuel fell at the well. Second hand will say he adds no able to make third final in array for for either one or the other of the brothers. I'm afraid christian. Garin of he's always at the moment is encore city. What jay schwartz did last week. It is toward a been garin is is of a very classy kind of doing the same reputation that say i think he will be if he can if he can win this. He'll be absolutely i've to deliver a title in his in his home event. Exactly and Well i'm sure by the time everyone's listening to this. We'll know who the winner is a. We'll see how that one turns out but yeah fairly decent. We spend ben per our and losing to to hold that the young danish pair and having a bit of a run actually on on social media ben or pear sort of having i guess i say love players have been saying sort of just saying how and he's finding it on the payment with all the restrictions chapel with caveat and i guess he needed to get off his chest and fairplay to him. Yes interesting post and listeners. If if you wanna have looked so really. I think good insight into how some of the player feeling about this tool and how is set up and run at the moment i think. He kind of quite candidly. Khuda a pseudo. Atp tool and he said he's going to kind of put up with it and just kind of refocus. Why why he's that. And just like the love of the game and hits you on the call but now i think other pays cut reached the same conclusions but have gone about it in a different way. Respect about geo c mon taking taking time off and i think he's in maybe he's been a bit disillusioned in the same way that has but they've they've had different responses and they pass results haven't been great of light Particularly in the in south america. he's he you know. Maybe he's been affected by the you know the getting on. He needs to adapt and think. That's kind of the. I think that's the that's the thing that he he needs to do. And i don't think he's doing as well as some of the The other players on tour the moment say he needs regardless of what he thinks. He needs to adapt. And i think that's what he needs to. He needs to think about how how he does that. Going forward of wise. He's just going to beat dropping down the rankings. Fischel right. let's take a quick break now. Joe join us listeners. In the second half we'll be looking at djokovic new number one record andy murray's new child and all of the draws for next week including poco de by some petersburg say do not go anywhere on march nineteenth the falcon and the winter soldier arrive on disney plus world signed down. We can't lose this fight bucky. If we do this. we're gonna do it. Our own way experienced the six episode of our partners co workers not necessarily the team four. We look damn good marvel studios the falcon and the winter soldier streaming march nineteenth exclusively on disney plus. This is the passing show and you are joined by joel and kim and now we're going to move onto mysterious player. My favorite podcast love of quizzing. So but actually joe. We are changing up. We're going to have very exciting game show. Style buzzer sounds to supplement the mysterious player so you listeners for every wrong answer that joe states you're going to head this and every right answer you will hear this say. Are you ready joe. Are you ready for what i've got for you. This week kim. I'm fully expecting that to be more. Wrong buzzer sounds than the one. We can have a lot more wrong buzzes before. We probably hit the right. Well i'm hoping we hit the right. Buzzer sounded say. Yeah let's let's get. Maybe i think i've chasing someone fairly reasonable this week. Yeah both sides more pressure. I feel to send you. I should indeed okay right. Clean number one. I was born on the twenty seventh of april. Nineteen ninety-five okay. So you quite a quite well younger. The be say they'll be a five fifty so like twenty five twenty six. I'm going to go with nicholas. Jerry oh isn't how how how nicholas jerry is. But it's not nicholas jerry. Oh okay. I am currently ranked number forty seven in the acp rankings. I'm going to say male. Okay carlos alka rise callers is not twenty five. He's like what twelve he's sixteen. Joe actually okay. I have one six career. Titles case is still quite cer- twenty five and six titles suggests to me. They're like a solid they're solid player. Exceptional just very very solid roberto baggio surrogate well as he ranked forty seven in the world right. I have reached two grand slam. Quarter finals tennis sanguine. Ooh i think he has reached she quotas but no. It's not tennis. Sandra and unfortunately right i have been as high as thirteen in the rankings. So as high as a team to quarterfinals. God where are they was going to be the philip. Some reason i feel either going to be at the french open. I do know really know why maybe wimbledon. I'm going to say data jackson far off. Actually you're in this going in the right direction next next week. I only the third playa off. Dominic herbert tea and lleyton hewitt to have bateson roger federer rafael nadal naval jackovitch. The first time. I played each of them. Is it fanego. Pasco i wished for david oscars still twenty-five joe show. Yes i oh okay. it's a right. I pledged to donate two hundred dollars for every ace. I served during the australian open. Twenty twenty in response to the fires. Okay think i think. I know who is is it nick. Aerials yeah carry. Yes finally we listeners. That's a really good start. Actually about the topic. Her petit didn't know that yeah listeners. How did she get to did manage to beat joe or perhaps not everyone would have to my loss which was going to be the fact. That curious was fined one hundred thirteen thousand dollars for five separate incidents of unsportsmanlike conduct. On the twenty. Nine hundred sixty is. I'm pretty sure we would have worked out by that point in time but yeah it was. It was indeed careless for this week's mysterious playa okay. Well let's move on to the passing shot mailbag. We had another listener question. Come in this way. It was from robbie loon on twitter and he asked jolan. Kim why has saba linka not been able to break through grand slams compared to naomi osaka despite that similar. Play styles. So riga question. I've i to think about this today. I've put points came. I'm going to let you go first. What your was your initial thoughts when you can kind of compare sampling and soccer and the fact that they do have that much power game from the may cyber asaka has a lot more schaefer it really particularly at the psalm level than than sabah lenka. Yeah for sure. Like the world apply in terms of what they've actually achieved slams yet. They have a similar game. So i think for me cut it comes down to not mental fortitude and and just be consistent and produce your best status when it ready push comes to shove because we know one hides as apple anchor is amazing and she showed now other events but at the slab. She's not being fourth-round. Still say i mean she still very young. So i think certainly is bound to happen at some point but i think a thing is just mental toughness. I think the fact. She's probably she is more risque. Walk by and then her games. Just going to go to paul guy era strain when it really doesn't need when she really needs it. It's gotta be on a do think that mental toughness is a is a key. Differentiator is i think about some of the situations. Soccer has been in even despite being such a young age. You know that serena williams incident the final the the pressure of a nation. Being well number one. She's been in. I think a lot very very tough kind of situations that hasn't been in. And as a result of that i think her upper level i would i would also just add. I think also the don't think i mean yes. We see blanca doing kind of really well on the single outside of the grand slams. But i still think of the miami. She hasn't really fully embraced singles competition. You know we've seen her and least mertens do really well in in the doubles. I still think that you know up till now. No they've kind of split and and set you know they're going to be focusing on that kind of single game. Which i think is the right decision by ought till now i think it has compromised her ability in singles. And if she's really wants to be focused to get to make that breakthrough into the second week of of a grand slam. You're wherever it is. She's going to need to be in on on the singles and and not have room for doubles particularly. I think coming into the you know the the business is her career which you know all still ahead of her but yeah. I think the fact the assault. That doesn't really embraced like sabah. Kudos i think has helped. Just kind of focusing nolan okay. There are some players in the singles game. How do i beat them. Whereas i think maybe blank is little bit compromised by you. Know having to think about doubles as well. Yeah the more successful your at a you are at. Wc sort of thing. Oh i'd like to keep having success as well. So maybe it's harder to break away from it. And i think carolyn garcia. He was very successful with militarisation. The doubles one wrote in garo on they You go to the you know the wpa finals but then sort of had a break. Because they freddie wants to face on their singles. And i think sapling is taking a step in the same same direction by not playing with martin's at slams kind of going forward saying to allow herself to really focus on the single say. Hopefully roby's question a year from now. Yes finally she has managed to break through because yeah she definitely has the game. I think it's i think it's bound to happen rather than nautile say. Yeah i think. I think fingers crossed but yeah great question come guys. We love to have your thoughts and questions to consider for for the mail bag every week city. Give us a shout if you've got any that you'd like us to answer at bats tennis joe. We have a very well phenomenal record. I suppose that has been kind of blowed out of water now Novak djokovic is making history yes again. He is now become the longest reigning world number-one in atp history beating roger federer's record of three hundred ten at world number one. Novak is now the all time leader on the atp circuit for total weeks at number one. He's not very far off steffi graf He was called the all time leader of that record for three hundred and seventy seven weeks so you know another year and a bit and he will be ahead of steffi graf as well if he can keep up and and stay world number one but yeah three one one weeks and counting for navy back. It's just such momentous achievement. When you think about it it's really really impressive. And i think the the best way to look at this i think from my point of view i think is looking at it as a fan in terms of fat that comparison between you'll ranking and the number of kind of slam title the against your and i actually think maybe when said and done we look back on the big three and all of records. I don't know how much this is going to be. A separator of of the of them. Think we i think we always naturally gravitate to kind of slams and look at that. Number is so of the you know the comparison for greatness. But i do think that there is merit kind of looking at the ranking because i think that three hundred breaking the record of three hundred ten weeks to me that just shows the kind of consistency and consistency over an extended period of time. This is not just talking about being the best player from a drawer of one hundred twenty eight people in two weeks. This is about being the best player in the world you know above all of your competitors are an extensive period of time and i think for me does have some a lot of merit and even though there will be people out there i imagine he will naturally look titles is a more your superior indicator. I don't think this can be so swept under the covers because it is such a magnificent achievement. And i think particularly for someone like chocolate. You is a bit of a fighter. He's is like a pete sampras. For example got big serve. That can kind of make sure that you can kind of have easy winds. He's very much is a point constructor across and he's one of the best one of the very best of that and he's been able to do that brand of tennis. Such a long period of time is just really really impressive. Yeah that's why. When i had that medvedev could potentially become world on this summer i was like oh but naturebox the welcome to me. He's just solidified. I didn't think of it. I mean i know. Roth has been world number one and law as well but i've just got yeast so used to joke of it's being world one mentally think. Oh but ways that could that could end you because it's just been stopped long time and i think olis' hadn't done if they finish on the same amount of slobs you would then look out the world number one record as probably the next next thing so i think he's obviously wanted to get this achievement. He's done it now you know. He said that he is lightning his schedule so he can focus on the psalms because i guess he now he's confronted take the number one thing it's the slabs that is the is the thing but it'd be interesting if he wants to pap strong. Beat steffi graf. Srecko your incredible and yeah. I think the. I think the only question i think. At the moment as you know there's been a lot of conversation about the rankings. And who's who's it benefiting There is about the the way. The rankings are benefiting. The top players and limiting the impr- improving players in keeping everyone in check in this same position. And just you know. That doesn't sort of. I guess devalue the the weeks that i guess djokovic's accruing at the moment in before cheering a around the kind of corona virus. Because i think he's been you know on a call The the number one player that has an you know the ranking changes doesn't really for me we the the achievement. But i don't know if some of all this is it might do. But i don't think it should now i think yeah. I think i didn't think it would i. I think well however the rankings were were done during the pandemic it's not going to change jovic being the world number. Say i think that's. That's one thing i think would just be attached to tokyo by the acp. Joe we've also had a bit of announcement this week on drag-out tennessee. He was the the. Atp chief that doing of work actually on kind of overhauling. How tennessee's is structured as we know at the moment it's it's very on unified. It's very fractured seven. Different organizations Running different parts of of the gaming. Got the it f. You've got the four grams. You got the atp in the wgn. But they've kind of set up a t seven working retail which is going to work very hard. I guess over the next year to try and make things a bit more unified more joined up to explore how they can kind of bring everything together. across the t. tours and with all of the slams anti it f offense as well. So i mean this is kind of a longtime thing. It's not going to happen even i. I think brainstorm ideas what they can do to meet the challenges as well but interestingly is united that tennis relies quite heavily heavily on on ticket sales and oversee. We've seen with the the lack of crowds here the inability to have crowds at ten s. That tournament's already struggling without revenue. They need to kind of put things in structurally to change so that they can actually have a more sustainable tour. That isn't say reliant on on ticket sales because we don't know how long this this pandemic is gonna is gonna get one forged if us with say they need to to make the sport more more joined and more sustainable. Def definitely i think this is. I think this is obviously been long i. I'm actually surprised it wasn't raining. It might have been ready. Just didn't maybe just have a name. So i'm sort of glad that these kind of conversations are now in place in not going to be ongoing in this. I'd love to be a fly on the wool. If these compensation see whether heading. I definitely think that they are right to look of. Would of the the jigsaw pieces are in place across the whole tennis landscape and in order to do that you need absolutely everyone on board including the yet governing bodies the represented the representatives of the grand signs all of these sorts of state coders and having a unified vision. It'll be interesting to see how what are the implications of this and and how far they go I think there's a feeling that people want change to happen. You know we saw that from a player. Point of view with roger federer Stating it during the you know the first wave. And yeah just hype. The vision does kind of have does best some sort of free bureau. Cacique doesn't get in the way because it does feel like it is for the good of the game in terms of that sustainability particularly with the ticket sales because that was something a fan. I didn't realize the events are kind of relying on. And i thought it was a pass me. I was a little bit by football. Where tickets hausummi atropine in the versus sponsorship and the that that side. bits yeah. I'm i'm curious to see how this kind of goes is. This is clearly a martha print. But i'm happy. These kinds of things a setup because i think the end of the day fans have really kind of be able to benefit of in a if a more kind of sustainable approach does come together absolutely. I say i didn't realize the importance of of us fans but now we can. We can play an important so we go there and they need us joe. They need us but yeah it's was have to say it's a it's a step in the right direction and Yeah we'll laugh. Keep everyone updated when we get further news. And it's it's announced just another as before we look at the events happening in next week. I didn't notice joe. I didn't know that this was even a thing on the radio on the cards. Andy murray is now yeah. He's he's now father fool because his wife came has given birth to their fourth child. They this well just save the weekend. So i'm andy has withdrawn from from the to buy tournament this week but yeah i didn't even know that they were expecting a say very happy knees for the murray family. Obviously been keeping busy during lockdown. Got four kids so it's gonna be right. Hand isn't the baby. The lockdown baby boob is is coming. And andy murray is obviously i honestly. I was busy of a big fan. I had no idea that. Kim says was about to give about to give birth say. I'm really excited. Really happy for them. Absolutely the right decision not to wait to withdraw from dubai and have more family time at home and yeah. I really really really really really happy for them. And yeah it's it's a big. It's a big fabric that keeps growing doesn't it does when when will it stop. But then there's more potential for future. Attendance playing murray. Say that's good. Yeah well hey. I mean federal's for kids as well. He's overseas just just coping. Roger as we were saying to buy is happening. There's no Roach today. Murray bought jovic as well as we do have dominic thiem s tope sage and rube life as the second eight now is an eight hundred five hundred event. Joe say. How's it going today. He doesn't wait. I'll be got it. All eyes will be audrey blanchard. How he does caddy. Continue to five hundred street. I mean he could face slash villi a in his match So that could be quite interesting. Batch really interesting has play taylor. Fritz in his second round. I think they just faced off against each other in semifinals in doha. Say yes I think will be on him. Interested in something only didn't realize existed. Matt matthew epton from australia. He did really well. In marseilles to the semi's in the singles and the doubles he has been given a special exemption in the drawer. He's been given a protected by into the second round which. I didn't know it was a thing quite a. He's quite cool. And i i quite like it. So he's been put straight through into The second the second round however he does he does get teased. Circuits the client of draws there. Don evans is facing as land kratzer as well in the second round. He came through grass moth. Today said that could be very interesting. One field i don evans playing well at the moment is very unlucky. I think in that federal match say yet is definitely a few few interesting matches at play. Doh make team as well. I think we'll be wanting to make sure that he can kind of continue some form because he's been. He's been a bit quiet since the australian open. I mean it was a little bit quite during australian open as well. Yeah he's been bit hesitancy after one of a better word but we'll hopefully he'll be out to get get back on track. I think he's fairly decent. Draw half say so. I think he'll be doing quite a bit better this week. We've also got another five hundred. Actually i didn't realize this was a five hundred as well. Acapulco sits buses headlining that one as top seed and zverev as the second seat verify against calls alcaraz in the first round is quite interesting. But yeah this is the event that refers not paying because the appearance fee of c didn't didn't cut the mustard at the tournament. Couldn't afford to pay the usual. See to refer to get him to go out to eat to mexico but yeah cabinet out by bush fang against qualify assay. Hopefully he'll be diesen this week and go see the likes of schwartzman. Mito shroud excetera. Sev- quarter is inaction. While he's up against chile i on. That's quite interesting one. I'm excited to see how quarter does because wall cards fingers quite winnable against chile which could come up against san or a. I think he could think he could do well. There and talking on surpass ben wa- pair first round. I mean that's a very entertaining match up that kids. I mean that guy. One way or another kim say crusade watch long tub policy. Shortlisted is in the main draw. He's got john is ner unseeded. John is naturally in the first round. Say is what you will you. Sentencing the sentencing. Until news is gonna win. If i'm being colonised theresa curry say all the way to keep the faith inside story and then we've also got another five hundred on the wj to saint petersburg alexandrova is top seed at that event. Kudos second sates say the russians are having a great time because nets before sayed. Yes tons of russians in the drawer as you would expect. It's the home of end. And i mean interesting. Show petersburg is known for. Its quite outweigh cut. A trade and stations. I'll be. I'll be excited by the draw. Obviously by i think i'm a little bit more excited about what they've got in store. 'cause i just feel like saint petersburg disliked the most out there one of the most out there towards tubs of the batch the presentation of it. This interestingly going to be saying. No yuki bertans. I think she's a two time champion by. I'm interested to see how clara tolson gets on. She has qualified a we spoke about on last week's podcast really up and coming Good tennis back from denmark cass aquino in the first round. Think she could at that could be a potential upset. Some interesting to see how car tossing gets on. Because i do think she's another big hofer for women's tennis and she seems to when she comes to requalify thus i that she won the tournament. Say she's in really good form of the monument. Can you imagine if she won t tournaments in array from qualifying but yeah was the monterey event in mexico not such a fifty for the women slayton. Stevens is top seed. There which is well i mean we. We were surprised by that. I mean i remember. Last time we spoke about steven i to speak about her winning events in being really good form but i just remember the sign happened but yeah she's still the number one seed that didn't if that's a rankings thing or whatever but what oversee it is but it's not i didn't feel like it's a form thing because Yeah she's not really had a great time of as of late she's forty four in the world but you think the state of the form that she's being in barely winning matches that she should be low so i think that is rankings. Things gone kind of ski with because of how it's been suspended and lee is is this event of she. Had quite good broaden the third round. I'm chad that win with controve Before the yes Interested see how show do Sirri base torma. Playing as is bu short so will will they be able to keep up their form from guadalajara. Eight remains seen. We shall cheat in and have a look at katie. Boulter is also in action in monterey. Say against schmead liver sir. I think that's winnable katie. And had the watson's all say they're aping against covid co kovic. Sorry i want him to adds another syllable. Then i didn't but yeah that brings us to joe and we'll see we'll be rounding up. Oh those events next week as usual on the catch up really really exciting of british. I think action british players inaction next week. So it'd be great to see how they get on but before we d fish we actually have a very special announcement we can announce that On the passing show on passing meets. We have our next guest confirmed. We are going to be speaking to drum roll please. we're going to be speaking to. Marcus willis On wednesday evening appreciate listeners. Will remember marcus willis as the player who had a fairytale run at wimbledon The way three prequalified qualifying and ended up paying roger. federer on center court at in round two Think a few years ago anyway. wimbledon and. He announced his retirement from tennis last week and he very kindly agreed to come onto the show so we are recording with him on wednesday evening unhappy putting out the episode next week. But what we would like to ask. Our listeners is if you do have any questions Any listener questions full. Marcus willis please let us know You can of see. Contact showed say she media or on email but we would really love to have a few listener questions to put in front of him. Say if you have any burning questions ask him. Make sure you contact the show. But in the meantime i hate. We've really enjoyed listening to this episode. This catch up from the passing. Shot if you wanna stay up-to-date with partial on the atp and w 'tatoes as what is bridge tennis remember to subscribe to us on your costing platform of choice for that's apple podcasts. Spotify overcast costs book. 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Can't Stop Won't Stop Don't Spit

"But i don't. I really don't have any regrets. I really don't i've i've lived exactly how wanted to. I've tried my hardest every single time. I didn't win the matches. That maybe i should have always aligned or but i really gave a mile so that really is hello. Everybody welcome back to the body serve. I'm jonathan and i'm james this episode to to to you know that was my grandparents house number. Oh i did not very special number. Well i learned something new every day. It's been a minute. Since we last spoke it was the end of the australian open. If i'm if i'm not mistaken sure. But if you've been attending our twit sessions it's been less than two weeks sure since the last episode and thank you to all those who did show up for the last one where we played named tennis player. And that's like a half hour. Max and sometimes somehow we stayed on for like two and a half hours. I have no idea what we talked about. I'm a very loquacious. I'm always afraid of what will come out of my mouth when we are a little bit more free in a live setting so surreal that in a little bit. Let's talk about all the tennis. That's been going on the last couple of weeks of which there's been a lot of tennis. Yup february march is always scattered across the globe in tennis. And we are. We're not back to normal. But i would say this is a more aggressive tennis calendar than we've seen in about a year. We're gonna start with what's been happening this weekend and work our way back to the results. From last week i will deal with a doha. Where petric volvo in a rematch of the twenty eighteen final beats gardenia mcgrew yet. The the wpa five hundred tournaments are coming fast and furious. Now there are so many opportunities for points. Mubarak came in as one of the hottest players on tour. She hasn't won a tournament in a minute but we should reach the final of the one of the warm ups right before the australian open. She lost in a very very tight match at matchpoints over naomi osaka at the australian open and now she's here again in the final and seems to be the in-form player. But it's kind of that last hump. That's been troubling her. A bit jesse hasn't won a tournament but over the last extended bit even before the the quarantine height. She's been one of the most consistent players on the. Wt tour yeah. She says she's happy with this progress. She doesn't expect it all to come at once. But she's got quality wins. Over soviet cannon funders of asaba linka soccer in this final against petra. Petra was just. I mean she was just so on and it wasn't even that she was totally overwhelming. And hitting you know. Dozens and dozens of winners. She was defending well. She was steady. She was keeping it clean. She wasn't making too many errors and and it just felt after the first few games which are very tight. It felt like there's nothing you can do to stop petro right now. Well we know petra's history three-set much so there's no point in any match the petrich avert of a place where feel it's a done deal right but Like continued to miss those opportunities right. Continue to miss fairly easy shots later in the match and it became the lead became overwhelming for growth. One of the troubles for her right now seems to be closing in certain spots. She had those match points against naomi osaka in australia. She's been getting to finally getting to semi finals. She's also had a lot of bad luck. Withdraws this coming week in dubai will be the third straight tournament this year where she's had a tough go of it as far as the is concerned and that's a function of her ranking right right. She's ranked number sixteen so your second third fourth round matches in this super deep w. landscape. They're going to be tough. She had neil sock in the fourth round in australia. She had salenko last week in the second round. And then this week coming up she's gonna have Potentially in before throat because the ranking system is so different because points aren't falling off the normally. Do it's really tough regard to make up that points. Differential she's playing so much better than fifteen sixteen th ranked player. Obviously had she won. This tournament should have only gained one spot in the rankings. Number fifteen to flip with ios found critic attention play this week even before the hiatus you mentioned that the rankings freeze had something to do with. How stacked maybe one. Through twenty the even before them there was a lot of density in the rankings. And it's just been exacerbated. I guess we'll talk later on when we deal with the the measures that the atp have introduced going forward through to cincinnati whether or not we feel like these measures have been fair. This tournament in doha was a little bit strange. Because by the by day three you start to realize that every single match has been one. In straight-sets surprise there were a lot of good matchups. We talk with depth on the wto. But it didn't. It didn't translate in the first few days and it wasn't until night the night session of day three where we finally got her first. Three set match that was with sabah. Linko followed by another three-set match right afterward with on jabour and carolina. Police go you notice. That mover is very often factor in these highly anticipated matches and when when people go through a draw and they see some of the possible. Third or fourth rounds. Gardenia is often. Will you know one of those people you look to. but let's talk about petra. Twenty eight twenty eight titles. Like i lost track of her title count She hadn't won one since stood guard in two thousand nineteen. That's almost a full two years ago. We don't talk often enough about petras longevity toward the top of the game this title count puts her among obviously the best of her generation but the way that she's able to sort of flick it on in finals. Incredible she also plays well at tournaments where she has a good history to. Doha is one of those tournaments. She won it before in two thousand eighteen. She was beaten finalists last year. And in two thousand eighteen she beat move within the final. Interestingly in two thousand eighteen were had been issued a walkover in the semifinal to get to the final to play a bit of and the exact same thing happened this time around when as aranka had to pull out because of a back injury ahead of her semi final and she loses again to compatible. Yes in the final. there's something about this matchup petra. leads now five and one against gardenia petra. Being better defender on court is interesting. It sure bodes well for for the next few years of her career. Doha wrapped up on saturday. So that those players could then move on to dubai is underway. We just saw kokhav snatch victory from the jaws of defeat where victory was already almost guaranteed in her first match against alexandrova cocoa gov being five one in the third set down three five in the deciding tiebreaker and then eventually winning ten it was a wild wild ride but most of the other tournaments this week being rotterdam point cyrus and leon. They finished up to date on sunday. We'll start where. Where do you wanna start rotterdam yes. Rotterdam the geyser there under rublev wins his fourth consecutive. Atp five hundred title played four in a row all of them start at the end of last to you so that's hamburg saint petersburg vienna in. He's doing the grand tour of europe that's twenty matches in a row on the five hundred level. That reuben has won this week. He took out. Andy murray in the second round. Let me tell you that. I i said if you based if you expected that i set to be replicated in say to and a set three that much would have gone for hours long and drawn out and hard slogged. That set was rube. Love eventually winning easily in the second set. And then he also beat steph. Ciba's bus in the semifinals easily. So this is not a case of rube love. Just running through annual random fields and random draws not beating big enough names like. He's he's doing the business here. Oh indeed. I don't think anyone doubts that. At this point medvedev had a chance early on to replacement all is the number two ranked player. And we'll talk about why that's important in straight-sets to live itch The ranking thing the number two this would be the first time since july two thousand five that a big four-member was not ranked number two and that was lleyton hewitt back in the day. Now it's confirmed by the that medvedyev will indeed get the number two ranking just a little bit later than people had hoped on march fifteenth and really the only consideration here for the number two ranking is whether or not nadal has played jovic vice versa in the semi-finals at roland garros really that. That's the only thing impotence for anybody outside of medvedev in this situation. I mean it's a. It's a huge symbolic thing. Obviously because the the run of dominance by the big four has is just incredible. Were you know we're now at fifteen years. Yeah it's it's a hell of an achievement for video of. I'm just saying as far as the repercussions on. Probably why a lot of folks are paying attention to this outside of the historic nature. Yeah can we talk about how in rotterdam they play in what looks like. I imagined the final episode of gambit where she's playing in that massive cavernous hall yet. And i just imagined seeing chess being played on the ceiling while the matches were going on. I loved what they did with that court. I'm all about accentuating with tones of green. It's actually been a theme of me with you. You're actually wearing army green right now. I've been watching shows and pointing out to you. That wow look. Everybody looks good wearing some kind of green are forest green. You should wear some more green. And their pops open rotterdam and they. They hit some of the seats. With what the word used to call it. But the did some interior decorating for the for the courts. And i dug it. The lighting was good. It was dramatic. It was yes also at this tournament. Born in charge made the semi finals. In what we decided was a kodak kit. Do you guys know the kodak logo. So i'm from the world headquarters of kodak rochester new york and that logos everywhere. We have it all over the house. Who has it all over the house we we do or you don't like well everybody growing up but and in our house. We had kodak blankets and bags and film in the fridge. Still have kodak copsey. Exactly he did look good in that kit though. Yes he did and he. He had a really good tournament eventually. Losing to future rich in the semifinals. Speaking of someone who had a great tournament martin for chavez reaches the final plays rube love in in two tight sets. Martin was just playing some. I guess he would call it. Muscular but stylish tennis just very studied this week. i mean that's how you described his game period. A yeah yeah typically. A lot was happening at this tournament came to she. Corey is on the cup. Finally winning back to back matches for the first time since. Us open two thousand nineteen he beat felix kind of a hobbled felix this week. Alex team in our case that has coaching team Of maksimir knee and michael. Chang helped him work out. A new service motion through was looking for a little more power but he had to reduce stress on his shoulder. And this kind of happened after he dealt with that long elbow injury. Great for him to be having these results on the court but he also scored some big wins off the court when those video packet released where i guess kids in rotterdam asked the players questions and they responded to it. One of them was. How old were you when you when you had your first kiss and felix telling us that he was twelve and then this other question. The players are asked when you were young. What did you want to be when you grew up and you almost always get these same answers from these players. It happened when they were asked last year. who is a woman who inspires. You are less again and then everybody said my mother my mother my mother my mother my mother and like when everybody's answering the same thing it only has a remote chance of working if there's one person who says something different and if that's something different hits and boy did kanus corey hit because he's set there. after all. the tennis players were told to us. He says a penguin he can't for dominic teams wig. One said he wanted. He always wanted to penguin. You may have adopted penguins. Dominic thiem idol. But i am sir penguin from birth one of the other reasons why a lot of eyes were on rotterdam. This week was andy. Maris return to tennis. He played one match immobilier. The week prior and then showed up rotterdam he he. He won his first match in three sets against robin hasa coming back pretty impressively by the end of that second set he starts to finally show andy murray tennis and then looked really good in that third set then of course ran into under rule of in the next round. That's as toughen ask for anybody not named djokovic nadal at this level on the eight gb torso the a seven five six. Two scoreline is a pretty good. Showing for andy murray especially given how competitive that i was just a matter of losing losing his way on serve toward the end of that set after that match. He was quoted impressive. Every time i lose a match. I'm getting told to retire that i should stop playing that. I'm finished that. I've got nothing left and it's sad and all of these things but why why should i stop. I could still compete with the best players in the world with one hip so i think that's quite amusing. My skill hasn't changed you. Ask the guys that. I'm practicing with well. Can we have a list of players even practicing with and you know what is going to be told every player over thirty is going to be told you should retire but for someone like him who's invested so much time in getting this hip surgery and recovering from it. Why not try not be out here if you still want to do it. And also that's almost always wrapped up in your own feelings about this player and your own desire to remember them in a certain way right. It has nothing to do with whether they're still enjoying themselves or whether they want to put themselves through it so really folks need to get over themselves. Those glory days. They're still on tape. Wimbledon is gonna still sell those. Dvd's right you will be able to remember him like that. Big big news this week. Another wta break cote has happened right it. There's there's another name to add to the fold and yes this is not something we want to be hyperbolic about. This is not something that we want at pressure to somebody unnecessarily but at the same time we have to note. That didn't need much to get to the top. We've seen soviet cannon a lot of these young woman. They don't need a long time to get that first. Big break breakthrough. Bright right. And so now and selfishly. I'm gonna plug myself here. Because i picked her. As a break-up candidate in twenty twenty one clara howson has won her first wnba title just blitzing through the field winning seven matches to in qualifying. Five in the main draw beating. I believe three former champions. Leo all in straight-sets. Did i say that no but he also each set was one with losing no more than four games except for one a seven five sat against bosa. She took out the top seed. Alexandrova in the first round alexandrova has had it with teenagers. Lately are two weeks in a row. Alexandrova is an excellent indoor player. She has won more matches than anyone over the past. I think you're and a half or something thou the first round if you watch that matched against copa golf. You'll know what you were just talking about. She loses tyson bulls. This is an overlap here. She loses her match two thousand last week in leo this week in lille still sunday here and she plays her first round in dubai on the same day that house in his winning that tournament in leon so she loses to the eighteen year old tells them and then the sixteen year old coco gov within the span of music. Stays like you said we don't like to feed the fire of a you know the the pr machine of these young players coming up but what cleared housing has done Deserves a conversation ray. She's an eighteen year old. She's from denmark. Has i think two women in the top one thousand. She's one of them kind of built her career quickly but steadily the junior number one at one point she won the twenty nineteen australian open and juniors and she's just been lighting up the itf circuit shows nine itf. Titles to this year. You know over the past two months one of them in germany in one of them in the uae after she lost an australian open qualifying to your point to macario tweeted the danish number. Two on the wto is ranked number one thousand and seventeen so they will only have one and on the adp. They're only two danes in the top one thousand denmark having one of the biggest young prospects on each tour car thousand and hoeger rune feels like a bit of a miracle. Just one year after wozniak. His retirement clara thousand has been working with olivier's genome. Who was previously on justina. Ns coaching team back in the day. He works at the justina academy where she's been training for like the past year. And a chris oto from tennis now has a great story on thousand. I learned a lot so would recommend you. Check that out But he talks about how genome and tells in are working on kind of this little slow and steady approach. I don't know if they expected her to win this title. That's not slow and steady. But you know working on her variety because the power is there the power is natural but she has so many other gifts so they're trying to just work on that stuff work on focus and being part of the now. You read anything about her. There hasn't been a whole lot granted to this point. But what you do read a boater. She seems incredibly level-headed. Her game is powerful so many balls today in the final were hi to her backhand and she stepped into it. Heating it on the rise and blasted down the line for winners. She's got incredible hand eye coordination. The serve has a lot of pop you. I haven't seen enough of her to be able to tell you. What are the things that she needs to work on. We know and we've talked on the show recently that it's not enough in tennis to just have power the other tools in the bag so yes that can power you to a win at a smaller tournament to to get to the real pinnacle of women's tennis where you're in the top five where you're winning these tournaments regularly where you make deep runs and slams. You're going to have to have more. So we'll some she still young wilsey hoshi develops but it seems like her coaches hyper aware of what you were just talking about. I mean she beat jenny brady at the french open just last year. Which i believe was her slam. Main draw debut This after brady had just made the. Us open semifinals. So this was tousands third. Wt main draw on the adp side. The sadoon dolo brothers. Juan manuel especially just won his first title in his first main draw appearance. I am so slow to catch on to trends on social media. Always is this. Why so many people typing and changing their names to yes on on manuel or has nickname. Ma i finally have made the connection here because you've really don't explicitly on the yes. Honma stan account. I've seen a lot of those. So i i'm at the point in my life where i just accept that i don't know it. Yeah i feel like some things have passed me. I'm accepting the aging process slowly. Melania are old. Now yes like. I'm not eager to be trying to find these things out our search things out anymore. You know if it comes to make to and finally this came to me so we're gonna talk about one mile in a second but while we're on the results from this week his brother francisco. Who's twenty two wins. Three qualifying matches at buenos aires. Beats korea in ronald vino. Las not mentioned while pair in what was in extremely shameful display on court from him. We we're gonna talk about that. Yup francisco reaches the final and meets digger schwartzman. Who wins quite easily. This goes i Home country tournament win. He's one and turkey and brazil in mexico but this is the first time he's wanna tournament in his country of argentina and in his home town buenos aires. What would have made this title historic if francisco had one it would. It would have meant that it will be the first time in. Atp history that brothers would have won in back to back weeks on tour and i was also secretly Hoping for it to happen as well so that we could crown new brother kings on the atp because this fairbrother oh have just well. They've abdicated now. They've advocate michelle is all over tv. he seems to be moving into commentator presenter role they're not going anywhere and the powers that be don't want them to go anywhere either because they were everywhere during the australian open. Francisco doesn't win but last week in cordoba. One manuel said owned beats romulus. Six love to six to go through qualifying in his first. Atp event and win the whole damn thing that's cool razi in his home country. He beat some of the same players. That francisco beat the next week. Federico korea and romagnola us. he As he said garnered a lot of social media stands just over that week. So i guess that's three players for you to look out for the rest of the year. Cartels on and the miller brothers back to mr in pairs match against francisco said into low. He had a serious problem with a call on the clay and he was screaming at the umpire and eventually he spat upon the mark. No i was able to find a a replay or highlights. Were i could freeze frame it. It already looked intimate in real time. But i could freeze frame it and and see pretty clearly that the ball mark were being shown or the pair is trying to tell us is what's going on but that's just not that's just not it it just isn't and regardless it's clay these things happen. He loses his shit so bits on the ball. Mark this patient zero at the. Us open remember in the middle of a pandemic that's transmitted by droplets. The dude spits on the court. I don't know what kind of punishment that requires. I don't know what i'm harris allowed to do in that situation. But if i were the atp. I'd be thinking really hard about suspension. Well we'll see what what the repercussion of this isn't something we absolutely have to keep an eye on because we've talked about how they seem to only be interested in penalizing certain things right. But as you know this is they. They are very hesitant to penalize things. That happened off court this an encore and they have certain powers to levy large fines or suspensions for things that impune the integrity of the game for example. Let's language they use. Well they just came up this week. With all these these recommendations and rule changes and prize money and ranking changes to help players adjust and thrive through this pandemic so. They're aware that a pandemic is going on now. Ben wa reacted on social media He and five york kind of two peas in a pod would call this the phone union approach. This wasn't the end of it. Y'all can confirm those. But i write in a couple places that he spat twice. Oh nice. I don't know if that's true but i've read that twice but then also toward the end of the third set he just straight up tanked to my mind. That's a final offenses. What he has tanked many many times but this is a lot of times. The tanking is indiscernible. It's subjective this was completely plain as day tanking to the point where are on the final point. He's don't five one. He serves his first serve in the completely wrong box and before the ball kid even gets to the position to collect the ball. He's already served the second serve again in that same wrong box without completing his full service motion like that. That's just not on right at that point to stop the match get him out of here but para tweeted after the match. In the end it's worth it to suck at. Because he displayed his career prize money. How rich he is from sucking also came with a kiss emoji and the middle finger emoji and showing us his million dollars and telling us to fuck some really the point like it's not. I'm sure a lot of trolls on social media. Were saying you suck. But that's actually not the point. Your behavior is absolute shit. It's not that you suck. That's not the problem we've seen for years. That pair has a following. I hope it's it's dwindling diminished over the years following that takes pleasure in his antics right. It's worth bring up because there is actually like a big hipster appeal to benoit. Paire that i personally have never seen. But there's definitely like a a part of tennis fan. That sees him as the hipster doofus genius. I just see the beard. And i can. I can smell it. Watching outbursts like this in the middle of a pandemic and just my general thinking about tennis players in the last year. I've been wondering how many of these players are suffering with their mental health seriously and art their procedures their resources in place to help them. Yeah that's all that's a whole other thing. I mean this is a weird segue. And i'm not saying that what's going on benmaller but this is just something that's been on my mind as well right and i i can only imagine that having to quarantine be hard or soft quarantine having to travel the uncertainty of knowing when you're going to be playing next over the last year the uncertainty if you're not somebody with a huge nest egg of career prize money not knowing how you're going to pay your bills if you can afford a code if you can afford you have to cut back your team all these different things. i imagine. It's a very stressful time for all of us but let alone a tennis player. Who has to consider all these things and spends a lot of time inside their own head to begin with right so we've seen so many karen outbursts in real life and we've seen similar outbursts in the tennis world and you wonder if that's Somebody selfish reaction to things that they cannot control. You know i feel for the players who have to go through this quarantining bubbling and then lose in the first round because a lot of people have to lose in the first round. That's how tennis is organized. Right quickly going through the results from last week in singapore alexa popper and beats boob lick in three sets those a first career title for the australian imo. Pele debbie gopher beats bow-ties dogu five seven six four. Six two go far in the last stretch has been kind of feast or famine making a couple of semifinals but also losing a lot of first-round matches especially at grand slams and this is his first title since two thousand seventeen and the fifth of his career. This was in the sanga. Murphy's open the soon to france open in montpelier. Julia was back as well. Yeah losing in the first. The first round didn't look that great to be honest. No but you know. I have hope my thirty five year old fave and then like we said one manuel ceremonial winning in cordoba. Shall we get to some odds and ends. The biggest an end is a is a huge milestone. that novak djokovic has tied roger federer for the most weeks at number one. Is it the biggest or you just said that because it was the first one i mean. It's a pretty. It's a big deal. I'm not gonna you know let my creep in here. It's a huge deal djokovic. Is you know. He's very clear about what his goals are. Which i appreciate he wants. He wants the records. He wants the record weeks at number one he wants the record grand slams and so far cut it he makes it look so easy right. It feels like these records have been coming pretty easily to him. I wonder if now that he's reached the explicit goal. And he will come tomorrow. He equaled last week three hundred and ten weeks. He'll surpass tomorrow. Give him that. That's now happened when he says that the next goal is the all-time slam record. Does that mean that he will now taylor his his schedule to make it more slam friendly to being as optimal condition to win those slams where we see his schedule. Different going forward now. We see that backfire. For certain players some players who kind of need the matchplay as players get older. They do have. They're scheduled to the majors. Serena plays what. I don't know what a normal year is now but she might play six to eight tournaments in a year in her late thirties with varying results. Jovovich bodies seems to be holding up quite well. He has some nagging injuries. Like this elbow thing the dominant terror which everybody has but there hasn't been like the catastrophic injuries that a lot of players have been. We're at the point. Now where the big three they've all dealt with bearing surgeries. The once you get your mid thirties unimaginable. Wear and tear on your body manifests and it's somewhat miraculous that all three of them are still playing given what they've put their bodies through at such a high level on the tennis court which is going to stay number one for for a while right even if he reduces schedule if he continues to win majors. It's going to be hard to supplant him at number one. I don't think that's something he has to worry about. At all nor shrek folks be worrying about wherever he plays. Unless it's roland garros. He's the favorite right even on some of these leading of and some of them. He probably my favorite to be rafa this year. So he's gonna he's gonna be securing points he'll be the number one or two seed for years to come i think speaking of rankings. Are these confusing enough. So let me try to explain this. The had a press release explaining changes to the rankings going forward so the results from march to august fifth twenty nineteen for any events that weren't played in twenty twenty will be extended another fifty two weeks but at fifty percent. The reduction to fifty percent will occur at the original drop date for each event. So that's the original day that the points were supposed to come off and the example that they gave was madrid so madrid happened in two thousand and nineteen. It did not happen in two thousand and twenty so when dron happens this year if you play madrid and you lost in the first round this year but you made the semi finals in two thousand nineteen. You're gonna want to keep the fifty percent of the twenty nine th semifinal and we just forget about your twenty twenty one years old so the rankings will count the grader of the players to scores at the event one of them being reduced by fifty percent for tournaments that were rescheduled and twenty. Twenty like roland garros. Those will be included for an additional fifty two weeks after fifty percent and those will be compared against the twenty twenty one version of that event. They'll have the option to keep their full twenty twenty one points or fifty percent of their twenty twenty points. Whichever is better okay. So for example if jovovich loses in the first round of the two thousand twenty one french open he will keep fifty percent of his finals points from french. Open twenty twenty yeah wilder. He'll carry that with him until the french open. Twenty twenty two when those will drop off right so right now unless they send it further. We won't get into a like a regular ranking system until august. Twenty twenty two. That's one of the now scheduled to start back normally so that could change of course but the ranking points from tournaments played the tour resumed in cincinnati last year right so the atp tour will start having regular drops in points that we're used to starting with cincinnati this year. Yeah yeah so. That's kinda confusing Now that's a lot of numbers but what did the ranking changes mean for people who are trying to build or maintain their ranking as we know they're only a handful of players who make true breakouts at grand slams right that's that's where folks can get like a life changing number points so to my mind for the majority of the players who will benefit from this fifty percent. This added covid safety net. They're going to be pleased. Were already established right and not brand. New players known have twenty ton dot twenty nineteen points. No so you. Have you have all these players who are having good results from the resumption up until now and their points are not waited the same as they normally would be and that's going to be the case for a while going forward so i think there's an inherent unfairness built into this. It's absolutely the right. Approach to try and create some covert exceptions modell players. The prize money is a great thing helping to to up the money to spread the wealth. More they're going to be taken from the atp bonus pool two up some of the tournaments throughout the rest of the year. Yeah it's incredibly difficult to build a new ranking system to try to accommodate a lot of different interests during covid. Some people will play less of a concern for their health. Or because they don't want to deal with all the quarantine. and how do you accommodate that. I mean many tournaments in twenty twenty were canceled of course so it makes sense for those ranking points not to drop off because nobody had the opportunity to defend and the ranking system is based on typically fifty two weeks and the philosophy. Is that if you win a tournament and you defend it. You're kind of at even but if you don't defend it all these points are gone. I think this is a case where a weighted ranking might be helpful even temporarily where if one of the brothers beat say for example francisco. Beat dago schwartzman. Today he gets a ranking bonus because his his points that he wins. This week won't go as far as they have before right. You know like a a quality point thing where if you beat a top ten player whatever you get kind of gorizia. You win a tournament. There is a certain books that kicks in for maybe players ranked seventy five and below. I don't okay i just. I don't think this there's a perfect solution. I just wonder whether like with every decision made antennas. It's benefiting in a lopsided top heavy right right now. You mentioned the the prize money increase the player council and the board of the atp support this. They're going to pull from the year end bonus pool which typically supports the top twelve guys at the end of the year. And they're gonna increase prizemoney the two fifties in the five hundred 's between australia and wimbledon because the prizemoney pools for those tournaments were already cut at fifty percent in. So they're going to go up to eighty percent for the two fifty s and sixty percent for the five hundred. It's something it's a gesture. The guys who are eligible for the bonus pool are already very rich. it's it's more than a gesture. I think it's material. Yeah did you see in the press. Press release from the atp that they made short dimension federal and adopt by name. Yes oh yes. This was decided by the players who are eligible for the bonus pool table including top ten players roger federer and rafael nadal. Yes who are on the players concert. They could have just left it at like. The players council decided this because rafa was already getting heat from some mexican media for not going to the mexican tournament. He claimed it was because of his back injury and he wanted time. They said it's because we couldn't meet his appearance fee demand. We don't know what exactly went on there. We know the top players earn massive appearance vs a million or more for for players. Like rafa novak. End roger yet. I mean when you promise a player and the player doesn't show up. You don't want that to be on you as the tournament right if the player is kind of nursing this nagging injury and the financial incentive is not there. They're not gonna go. Some players will show up to your tournament not an optimal condition to collector check. But that's that's assuming that this report has any credibility right right. My reading of it is. Nadal is one of the players who was most unwilling to travel during the furthest parts of the of the pandemic the one who's been more attuned to the perils of the pandemic than most tennis players. And if you're one of those people who do not believe that he was injured in australia. Go ahead and live your life. We are not those people and so given that. We know that the french open is his. It's the apex of his season. Yeah i don't see how it would make sense for him. Still injured having just pull out of rotterdam to fly away to mexico while not at full strength to then potentially jeopardize his run at the french open when he just had to go through a grand slam at thirty five years old in not his best condition luckett right so he's gonna go from the netherlands to mexico to the middle east in play dubai and then go and play miami based on as you said his behavior last year. That just doesn't really seem to hold water anyway. I turned both my eyes away from all this chitter chatter on twitter last this week because it was just a lot of just hullabaloo over nothing to my own and in the same vein. We get into the whole wildcard debate again. Who are we doing. Miami announces that kim clijsters is getting wildcard volvo car. Notices that kim clijsters getting wildcard. This will be her twenty twenty one season debut. We hear that stephanos cpas has secured a wildcard. His brother ranked seven thousand three hundred and twenty two into the main reality. He's ranked like nine hundred sixty seven into the main draw. Petros and stuff else have gotten a back. Wildcards for doubles tournaments. They have rarely match listen. We're not going to beat a dead horse here. Obviously the wild card system after is unfair tournaments will give it to local players. Who don't have a lot of experience. They'll give it to the siblings or cousins or son-in-law's best friends dog walker because they can in the nevada these tournaments especially the ones run by g. It's treated like corporate boxes. Oh god giving give me out seats to whoever's available to go that night if you're turnament is run by an agency and you're not wrapped by that agency. You're not getting a wildcard pirie. So yeah it's crazy on payer. I've always been of the opinion that somebody of the stature of clijsters a hall of famer you'll give them as many cards. She's won it four times. You give them as many wildcards until they retired right. It's how i if arnold palmer's eighty five year old s wants to play the british open you let him do it. well. I understand that golf is day. They find rules off at sixty. Five points is like it's a balance between these players. Still bringing value to the game to the spectators. Do people still want to watch them. And is it also fair to other players. If you're one of your goals develop new town of course and players from countries not represented by a huge national federation. What will never get these wildcards. They'll never get the chance to develop in the same way that a player from europe or north america does and. That's incredibly unfair. There's there these reciprocal agreements between the slams right. Like with the french frederica first world countries trading wildcards between them however. I don't think that criticizing the petros wildcard is off base. It's fairly ridiculous right. And the same thing goes for mario sokha. I want to be fair here. You know these players are well out of the ranking area. you would normally give a wildcard. I think that nepotism is outside of the realm of unfairness that we accept right. Because we've established that wildcards or unfair nepotism makes it like super duper unfair. But if you're citybus and he's clearly very tight with his family. He has one brother who is trying to make it on the tour. Another one coming up on the apparently there's a younger sister elizabeth even talked about. He doesn't know if he'll be ready enough to play mixed the olympics with them this year. So maybe in four years time. This is a city bus dynasty that they're trying to attract here and so i'm i'm putting that in my writer you know i want my humidifiers. I want my dalmatians. I want my champagne. And i want my brother to get a car. Sure i understand that he can do that but we can criticize it to. It's part and parcel of your appearance. Fee essentially it's tacked onto that. He's within his rights to ask these tournaments want big stars to come to their tournaments who is regular. Who's going to regulate that. That's what i want like. Where's this regulation went. Come from otherwise we are just going to sit here talk about on our show. Y'all went to argue. What's the twitter streets. And it's going to go on and on and on because the decisions happened so far above us and there's no uniform regulation tennis. Yes this is one of the pitfalls of wildcards and appearance fees while on the perennial controversies right in. Wgn there was a time when appearance fees were illegal so this was all done under the day there was a time when steffi graf was investigated as part of her tax case when she caught a case with taxman as to whether her father took appearance via under the table for essentially cash payments that were unclaimed on her taxes. Peter graf was showing up to these events like aretha franklin with a tobacco and collecting cash allegedly allegedly anyway. Let's move on to the nasty coke innocous earlier this week. His appearance on sports podcast called ordinarily speaking. And it's you know in english would be spelled ordinarily but it's all our d. i n. e. r. o. l. ordinarily speak lever and in this interview. He documents his boats of depression while he tried to make his way back to the tour many times over the last six years due to injury and that an occasions he would be totally fine and then something small would happen. Inconsequential than he'll feed find themselves sobbing. And he didn't know why and that he's in a much better space now but he wanted to put this out there so that other people could be helped by his experience and him talking about it. That's a really important mean. It has resonance for the age. We're living through now because a lot of people are dealing with situational depression anxiety and don't really understand how to place it or understand it a lot of times. It is triggered by your your current state. You know what's going on in your life. So during the pandemic people are feeling stuck at home out of work all that and it's distinct from depression right but it's still something that needs to be understood and recognized as real and having real physical effects too so kudos to him for doing that. A real asset to professional tennis players. Your we've seen so much recently. Each year on tech making social media star out of her therapist lay know this. These conversations are really becoming so much more acceptable. Publically is really absurd that we should even have to make a statement like that. Yeah yeah. Marcus willis has retired. From tennis marcus willis. Everybody knows him. From his 2016 run at wimbledon was ranked number seven seventy two and. He won three qualifying matches to play roger. Federer in the first round federer beat him pretty handily but it was such a huge story in britain. And he's one of these guys who has been playing like the you know the itf's the lower levels of the tour and have been trying to eke out a living and he leaves with a warning to the lta and tennessee general. That this is impossible. You know you're gonna lose so many young british players because they simply cannot afford to play the sport there are. There are fewer tournaments for young british players to play and obviously this has importance for players all countries. He says that he'll be starting his coaching qualifications. And that you can always check for him on his podcast called. What you're talking about willis Sir join explain where what you're talking about where this comes from. Yeah it comes. From the american sitcom different strokes gary coleman. That was his famous catchphrase. From the show and willis. Was i think his brother. Are you saying that that that. It's appropriation. I think it's if it's not. It's very close very close i. I'm glad you brought this up. Because i want to talk about the non-appropriation that happened on rupaul's drag race. You're glad i brought up like you didn't have already written. Belowa throws a segue wrote it. Because you had you mentioned it. I never knew about his power but this week away. Clean from utica new york which is about two and a half hours from where i grew up. Her name is also utica. Not just too clever name. You know she was Doing an impersonation of bob ross who is The painter guy who was on like public television. I had no idea. It's really. it's an american thing. Like i think seventies and eighties thing if you grew up then and at one point i thought it was a bob. Fosse so bob ross was white and he had an afro like he had big curly hair and it was grown up afro utica was afraid to wear an afro because she thought it would be cultural appropriation. All of the black wings of the show tried to explain to her. That bob was white. So it's not really a problem if you wear his hair instead. She wore a wig made out of squirrels. It was an interesting choice. Anyway that that's open of a diverse it is but that's what we do countless bernardez. You may have remembered that at the australian open before it started. We saw him been wheeled out of an australian hotel after suffering a heart attack. We know learn that he will work the atp five hundred barcelona open in april so he seems to be recovering if not already recovered from the health. Emergency in australia. Mir looted baroni one of the few tennis players that we've done one on ones with on the show one of the few tennis players who remember bill clinton's election who were even around born for milton. Who played alongside martina hingis. Thanks to david came over at tennis. dot com. We got this piece where we learn that. Marianne is absence from the tour wasn't due to the pandemic wasn't due to injury both reasonable presumptions but due to her giving birth to a daughter. She's thirty nine years old and she plans to try and come back one more time. And if there's anybody you should not bet against to make a comeback in tennessee. It's mlb interesting in article to her husband. Owns a restaurant in florida. And she was talking about how part of her time during quarantine was spent making sure that the restaurant was up to code with copay regulations. Mind you in florida. That won't take much doing but she seemed to be very concerned with the pandemic and taking the necessary precautions. And that was something that tracked with what i know of her as tennis. Fan in having sat down and spoken with her in the past. She's one of the tennis players that just have a full grown adult head on their shoulders. Now speaking of somebody does not have a full grown adult. So it's amazing. I promise you it's not set up this way. And we didn't intend to make the segue so neat and tidy saronic here stale will end with some social media mess. She this this week. Liked all these tweets from greg abbott. Who is the governor of texas famous resident texas around care. Stay you know about reopening texas and going maskless. Clap clap clap. she loves it. What what is her deal. It takes energy to be so persistently inconsistently wrong on almost every topic. She is in step with john tweeted. Congratulations on thanks to the governor. For doing the right thing cure stay has also coming off her fiance going after alexis o'hagan for defending his wife because she's is engaged to the son of young tiriac. Can we talk about Recently this is my favorite encored moment from her. She tried to get her coach. A code violation because he wouldn't stop talking and the umpire explained to her. That you would get the code violation because you are the player. We don't hand out. Violations to random people in the stands. It is a lot. It has a lot of drama with her. It's not drama. It's utter stupidity like it's relentless nonsensical absurd non thinking behavior. Next time you ask for a one on one for her you think she didn't say no. That never would have been a possibility to begin. With what are we gotta sit there and talkable next press conference is gonna be mad awkward though that brings us to the end of this episode. We tried to keep it shorter and sweeter than normal next up is dubai roger. Federer's coming back. He'll be playing on wednesday. Against either dan evans or somebody else. He gets a bye in the first round because his ranking has been propped up by the the freeze yep he's released bits and pieces here and there. He's the kind of celebrity who i mean. One photo of him standing to a tennis court that will satisfy the stands for a long time but also he's coming back from major surgery which any surgery at this stage of your career. Tennis players major surgery eaten and he is positively giddy to be back dot kind of giddiness playing tennis. It's infectious. i think. It's one of the more enduring things about roger federer even if you're not necessarily fan yep the he just loves loves this job thanks for listening. My name is jonathan. You can find me on twitter at tennis. Underscored john and i'm james at elliot jamar to else two ts eliot with two ts got voted off drag races. Your monday one. I'm still here the only time here you are. You're the only one anyway. We are at the body serve on instagram. And twitter were on spotify overcast apple all those things right as a review email us at the body survey g dot com which you will re replied to some email i will. It takes me a while. But i read them. Just takes me a while to reply. It's what i do for a living replied. Emails feels at my work life. Becky and hr can get an email right away cube. I can't other. No you're right you're right you all deserve it more. Thank you for listening till next time. Thank you very much.

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The Tour Catch-Up: King Karatsev rules Dubai; Zverev outshines Tsitsipas in Acapulco; Leylah Fernandez arrives in Monterrey; Latest Wimbledon updates; Miami Open Men's and Women's draw previews + predictions

The Passing Shot Tennis Podcast

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The Tour Catch-Up: King Karatsev rules Dubai; Zverev outshines Tsitsipas in Acapulco; Leylah Fernandez arrives in Monterrey; Latest Wimbledon updates; Miami Open Men's and Women's draw previews + predictions

"Hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the show. jolan kim. The tennis pub costs by fans on today's episode backed by our crowd funds. Lee stanley antionette occasionally king corrupt. Have rules dubai. Sasha zverev takes acapulco and the miami andrews despite a host of big player withdrawals kim. The miami is just found the corner. We've literally just had the menstrual so we've got a lot to a lot to discuss. Got tournaments as well. We are slightly delayed. It was my birthday the weekend. So i afforded myself a little bit of extra time off mainly for my birthday but also we could look at the ministry which happened. This evening was as land corrosive winning by the best birthday present. You can keep the best birthday present. I got was from you. I was so. I was amazed because i go to present during the week and i was like. I didn't know who this was from. And then when i open on when i opened on saturday and it was from you and i read the car and it was it was so it was so hot warming and also also happy to receive. It will make well joe. I have to put up with the every way to say. The least. I send us base in the post saying as you can't get to the pub is very true. I don't say you also twenty s. I believe because lockdown birthdays. Ain't count and this is your second one say. I'm in total denial about turning thirty one. So yeah i think that's the that's the best approach to have just literally not thinking about the fact that been in unlucky group of people who've had to lockdown birthdays in the uk. Anyway let's get onto the tennis as we said. We should be very quickly. Not swelling on joe's age Yeah so we've had lots tennis as per west. We start acapulco joe. how about they've acapulco. Let's go screw loco down an act bucher as saying guys so we had the five hundred events this kind of ferry. according to plan in the final Well we had the top geez aids Sits pass ends vera of You know they've met coffee times now. And sarah of came out and talk this time round six four seven six slide. The unexpected semi-finalists. I would say Which is probably perhaps the most interesting take from the week especially lorenza mazzetti making his way through to To the semifinals and on the other side dominik for think anyone had thought name on their radar. Coming into this event. yeah it was. Like a mix of familiarity at unfamiliarity. I mean the final itself. I think i watched some of the highlights. It was a real. It was real entertaining match. The kind of came out on top of it really ebbed and flow. There were big bed changes. I'm still don't really sure how cisa pass lost that. I i think he was four one up and had three points for five one and very came into it. And i think that that really i think for me was the the mark of how much vary has improved In terms of maturing think on the tour in the he didn't let get away from him. Despite the you know what like on the scoreline and again in that second set he was able to kind of win the big points or play the big points better particularly in the break and it was such a fun match to watch. Because i think. We've we've spoken about the rivalry between zverev and pass for you know. I feel like a long time now. In we've had other players kind of come into the like medvedev like group love. And i think this was a little bit of a reminder of actually these are like these like the to jeez the necks chedda about originally and it was kind of good to see them on a real. Show that pleased. The police defines in acapulco. 'cause i think it was a really fun final towards i say akpokavie. Such a fun told me. I think it really lived up. Really lived up to expectation out definitely. But joe wasn't oh. Gee i've just may or maybe listeners. Also you were wondering what is original gangster sporting. Yes not really a sporting tab sexually that like the originals and it was a good reminder. I think of to the kind of source. I think of that up and coming generation. That was kind of sat a few years ago. I mean very very young and it feels like he's been on the tool forever and i think surpasses sort of in a similar situation. So that's that's kind of what i bet by. I think very might prefer the term original gangster because he kinda came out in the media to say he saw of sick of being called next jenner. You know he's he's a stoppage. He's being on the tool for years. He's proven to some extent that he deserves to be there reaching a grand slam final. He's won the atp finals etc. He's one moss's event. So i think he's kind of made the point that really want to have to have tag on me anymore. I think in a way that that's true because people like musashi They all the next gen. Now it's moved on. We need to kind of rebrand set and players on the tour. I suppose on sits fast would be another another one. He probably yeah is not good next gen and is very much now and he's been having a good season Lost in the final macbook but still a very decent decent performance. Says he hasn't actually ever won a five hundred Oil almost level and yet he's been in quite a few of those finals but is zero and six on on five hundred which is interesting. I didn't realize he had such poor conversion record at that kind level of tournament. There's something about his is finals records. The is not you he. He will obviously want to kind of put right. Because you know he's playing great and getting to kind of the latter stages of the tournaments he is entering but when it comes to kind of the big final showdown Particularly in the more high profile tournaments is not really doing is. Don't really doing well. I mean he zero and thousand five hundred zero in two in mazdas finals. And if you compare that to his record at two fifties he's four no Is a real kind of stock kind of comparison there and yeah. I mean i think this final i mean you could look at it. Occupied got away from him the that that really was quite pivotal into he will be kind of really kicking himself that the you know being full went up had chances sky five one and he was able to kind of win not sat and almost kind of stola and i think in some regards. You'll miss stole the the second set as well. So i think the pass there will be he will kind of look at his game and i think realize that when he gets to finals in a he he needs to he needs to step it up and you know he's no. I don't think he's doing that. The movement on the on the biggest stages No for sure hell hopefully be able to improve on that in in miami. But we'll get onto that later on. So joe what did you make of lorenza mazzetti this week. Because it's very young italian player. He's nineteen years of age. I believe and was only his fourth. Atp main draw. He's gone through to the semi finals. He said his first win. Over top ten player beating diego schwartzman. He is now in the top hundred as well Making waves on the tool that we already had him on a radio on rada win stan last year which i think really put him on the map but like where do you see him. Going from now on is he. Is he a row. Prospect to march is this. Something is really great. I mean for italian tennessee city unbelievable misaki and yannick sinner. Who's obviously been making ways of his own. The season they have been really really impressive and necessity. This week was just Yeah he was just really great to watch. I really love his single handed. Backhand it reminds me a lot of cardiff rashad gas gays back canned and i think there are some comparisons that particularly i think in the way the gasquet kind of broke onto the scene. Nothing arguably mazzetti is doing it in a similar sort of way and you know there will be people out there who you think will think that know really big career of had him and he will need to make sure you know he can kind of follow through an all that talent that we kind of seeing on the court of the maidment. Because he's he's he's out some. Some winds have been very very impressive mean to get to the semifinals defeating dimitrov He defeated frances tiafoe. Frostiest actually did the one of the biggest racket smashes ever seen on match point. I think so. Yeah which offers see actually from tiafoe. So i mean he beat tiafoe schwartzman really impressive come through qualifying and do that and yeah i think he i think are gonna be you know that could be a friendly rivalry for the future unite. Both italians both on the on. The pen genuinely see both of them. You know reaching the top ten in that in their Career rankings. At the same time i may could real really be. I think a backer for talion tennis in the future that we like the henneman rosettes. Italian tennis going overseas is why things about seven months older. I mean who game do you. Actually think has the potential out of the two of them to gay further to win. Slams perhaps like i think setis games actually a little bit more varied from what i've seen this week. I think maybe sin sin is still has a bit more work to do kind of physically and kind of how a bit more look kind of necessities game. I think it's a little bit more complete. I still think there's work today. I think well his backhands really good. I still think there's an area for improvement on his full hamper. Both accent prospects. And i don't just you know they're not sort of peaking alley and teams will be aware of that. And you know not believing this sort of hype too soon and i think that will be the next sort of challenge to see though be kind of goals have in terms of rankings and tournaments and stuff like that but i think we're looking at in the context of that careers. I think for both of them. This kind of hype around them at the moment. The think they'll be doing well not to read too much into that and just keep focusing on that game because they have such great styles of tennis to watch as a fan. No i completely agree. It's very very wise them to avoid all the all the hype and just on improving that game and getting on with. Yeah acapulco joe. We also had some good good news for for british plaza in cab. Nori to the quarters in the singles which is great but we had a british doubles Pad winning this. I two so we had the skupski brothers winning their first. Atp five hundred title together and their third try to overrule the tour Which is funny rating. Because they've reunited again you start playing with each other off. The nail ski was kind of dropped by jamie murray and lo and behold on reach to To the title. They beat mario and suarez. They beat josue salisbury mudgee from say winning a fellow british players and yet coming through To upset the top seeds in the in the final as well so fantastic week for them that must have felt so good to be bari. Suarez obey maybe they would have expressed an outward labor because of the situation that could have just try to supply cut of last year at the end of season with bruno suarez becoming available jamie. Murray deciding to get back there and and you know and the skupski brothers. Reuniting they eighth everyone seems to be doing really well at the maybe and it was just fantastic to see. You could see how much it meant to them. often matchpoint pow. The back of the you could tell that they were absolutely be kind of a static for that. Win is really really impressive. And as always british doubles at the babe seems to be an absolutely rude health when it comes to kind of davis cup types is going to be though no shortage of options and arguably with the skupski's because they are an all british pairing. They might be the number one you know arguably you could make an argument that they would be maybe if they can keep this up. The you know. The number one Pairing given you know they play with each other. We can we count i agree. It's quite difficult choices. It reminds me of who. I put in my fantasy football team each week. I think of thought she could score. I didn't know who's to keep the bedsheets to play. Leonce is going to have a bit of a headache without one. Perhaps and interestingly. Joe i mentioned earlier he got to the semi finals played. Sasha's verve lost sessions vary of course but perhaps a more interesting thing to come out. That match was the that was an earthquake in the middle of it. Which know something you have happening every day when you're out playing tennis But yeah there was a fall. Efe point seven mackney. Cheetahs quake Whilst at cut for serving in the first game of the second set an tremors that went round the stadium. I mean how does all the mold brazil the i thought the happy was an earthquake happening and then not playing. Let i love that. They just sort of just continued playing the up. I did really know what to do and it was just. It was a little kind of rattle on the camera and yeah turns out to be enough. I mean you never seen anything like that. Apparently they are i think. Quite common in acapulco berta yet to have it happen during the match. I forgive zverev. Orca vichy up it. I would have been a little bit. Well whoever lost the point. I would have been like that. Were there was an pay. The point by focus they probably just like even earthquake brayton disrupts fakeness to have the empire say into his microphone. Let quake up the big like that. It would just been just been very surreal. Yeah i think it was the play. The when he was paying team says a massive light fighter. J. going policy. He must be like. I know when i played tennis. Talk guys i mean what's next hailstorm over southern or tornado as yeah these natural has its going on. But i'm yet so we wanted to to buy now joel. Let's let's go to different constant different ornament another five hundred event for the men and this was an interesting f n because i think i think we will find all that. They were expected to require to the aslan corrosive versus lloyd harris and yeah as lang karassev hayes. Incredible season is carrying all australian. Even semifinalist now. Atp tight list He came through against north rs. Six three six to his first career title. I'm pretty decent. Want to start off with an hundred five hundred bed. He's now going to be in the top thirty. I can't believe it. i thought his semifinals. But one of which. I know sounds bit harsh. But we've seen that before and maybe maybe it's not maybe it's not. I mean this was a gay. I think in comparison to acapulco this is the complete opposite in terms of the the final we go north harris versus as nine that is a qualifier versus a wild card. Which i think has only happened. I think that was the seventh time as ever happened on the atp tool so you can see that was quite quite rarity into crafts. Have really enjoying good good run. The tolman really baking of that wildcard and yet coming three beat rube levy stopped rube left streak at the semi finals. Beat yanic center as well in the quarterfinals. It was impressive. I think the most impressive about it was you know i. It didn't feel like that's grand slam. Semifinal in australia was fashion the panel though many people thought it. He's really kind of backing up. And you know it's it's just it's just so impressive and the fact that he's done this as a twenty-seven-year-old we have. I think we have players kind of come out and peak early on in their career. We feel like we very rarely see it happen so of languishing or playing at the challenger level for x. number reviews and then making the big breakthrough but crisis seems to be one of these individuals in these really making the most of it may have been. Yeah it's it's really very impressive very refreshing as well because like you said. It doesn't happen very often. It's just is really nice like genuinely nice to see someone just on a really good reform and you know he's fifteen and oh against plays ranked outside the top four and he's only lost two matches this whole this whole season. So i mean is he one of. He's one to watch us. Suppose a in going into miami them out. Basically nut full our. He's he's a dose quantity now but he's also an unknown quantity and i think what's kind of giving him an advantage at the moment is the factor. Because he's kind of burst on. I don't think a lot of the players. He's coming up against really how to play his game. Just kind of watching me to play closer to the baseline he i think he hits a very kind of ball. And it's You know he likes to hit on the up and yeah just think. A lot of people don't really know how to deal with that and even kind of replay in that semifinal. Even though i think kind of has a similar sort of game lightspeed close to that baseline crescents power. The power he is able to generate. I mean it was still another level to reply which is really kind of say something but his his stock ball has a lot more than a lot of players kind of stop. And that's what makes him so kind of hard to handle hotter. I guess figure out. And you know there's probably going to be times when he's going to be able to keep up that level throughout and maybe you'll hit them for sarah's by the moment he's paying controlled aggression and is doing absolutely kind of wonders. I tour and i think i think is safe to say that. The best based improved player at the end of the season is already got it sewn up. Yeah that ward is definitely. I think his name in all everett right now. Let someone else can come on that. But yeah he beat done evans as well in the second round so would it be interesting to see if you know. Dan could have he could have done had come up against bet. That's not a bad result having lost to him and you know the eventual champion unless. Just talk about lloyd harris joe because he as you said it was a qualifier. And we've we've heard about her. We've seen bits of him do not well. I just know him for his route. Unruly hair as But yeah i qualified that. She reached a semi final or final. In the history of this moment of c- he was looking for his first title as walls corrosive. What did you make of loyd harris this week because he beat dominic thiem in the second round which raised a few eyebrows. I know team hasn't had the greatest sought this season. But lloyd harris put together a good run of form this week. Making final beating shop valve in a very long semifinal as well so yeah what do you make of him is is he is. He wants to watch as well. The game very impressive this week. I think he's definitely the we've spoken about him as the new. I think for kind of south african tennis you taking over the mantle from kevin anderson. I think based on this week anyway. He's he's definitely got that in his locker. When you look at the results he had. I mean he defeated dominik team. In straight-sets kei nishikori. He was able to kind of back up. Pretty big wins and just kind of continue through all the way through to the final. I will say with that. Dominic thiem victory. I think with qualifying at the moment the way. It's kind of sat up that. I do think players. He come through qualifying who've able to have a few matches before going into the main draw. Our at the moment. I feel like they're in a big big big advantage. When you're coming up against someone who is seated and has had a bye in has had little to no time or ready a dating. They have a little bit of an edge. And maybe that is why You know he was able to kind of start so well Again statement and really kind of come through that. But i definitely thing. Yeah he's He's one to watch for the future and is has been had an impressive wait. I don't. I don't know if you needs a quite like the long kind of flowing locks but i feel like they're going to be deeply polarizing than the tennis community. Yeah i mean why no he can do of his hair. It makes them easy to identify opie like turn on the tv. Oh last lloyd. Harris is but yeah dominic thiem. He's pulled out of miami. He's gonna fake us on the clay. Which would be sentenced. I suppose wipe of going the way of tamiami when you re not feeling in the best shape and not having much motivation bob struggling with the way the tournaments are have changed as of covid So i hate that kind of lacquer form doesn't lost too long it might also be an an inevitable. I guess and neville after they winning you. I slam is. There is a kind of added pressure on a bit of a comedown affil- at the moment from the high of winning. I is his fast grandson. Usa per nazis. And because up until now in this season yeah think he's actually only five and four on the tour. I probably would have expected to do a lot better You know the the australian open and you know the the tournaments afterwards towards so. I feel like he needs a little bit of a reset and i think he's almost kind of glad that the clay court season is just around the corner thing. That was probably one of the reasons. He just kind of dropped out of miami. Didn't fancied making that trip wants to be as ready as possible for the clay season because that is a pothole of the season is gonna know in. His eyes will be one of his most productive parts. So i think he needs to go away and think about you know what it is. The made him so formidable last year. Because i didn't think he's playing at that level at the moment. Yeah i agree and we shall see as it comes onto the clay For doing something very similar not bothering to to play miami. Just focus on the clay and you'd have to. You can see why. I suppose him team united probably the top quarter say. Let's go onto the women's events from the last week Some petersburg russia. This is a very russian dominated event We had an old russian fine and we had all russian semifinals. I think seven of the eight quarter-finalists russia's any russian listeners. Out that any russian tennis fans while sabena in on cloud nine says great. Interestingly though joe is the very is the first russian semi final lineup in wti a history which surprises me because the have been a lot of russian players. They have a very deep Women's tennis scene. I'm surprised that hadn't already happened. We were so close. What we voter ever kuznetsova fido which would've which would have started his way back in time. I think about circa two thousand five but it will sit to be despite the number of russians that were in the drawer arguably you know we were a little bit surprised in terms of who we got in the final. I mean catholic kina again. She has been nothing much on the comeback trail. I think she's found too. I think she's actually found mojo. Cecile straight didn't think she did well in the phillips ireland traifi after melbourne. And yeah. i think she's just go back. And i think that kind of just showed really throughout the week. Unless you had a bit of a wit school line against because even semifinal woman one six six love six to not one yet to come up against sparring in the final a bit of a shame the she had to retire because of a back injury in that second set but yeah catholic kane is just i think i think i think a games change. I just think that she's just added. She's found a bit more belief in a bit more confidence. And i think that's been the difference. Yeah caserne she wasn't up into the top ten back in two thousand eighteen and then had a big slump and she's now yes making her way back up the rankings. She's she's now back into the top fifty second title of the year. she's also won both w ta five hundred events that take place in russia's say previously. She warned moscow a few years ago. Now having one in petersburg i think she's actually the first priority to win both of these events so yes good to see her on the way up margaritas. Parrying not gonna lie an awful about her so it's a shame that she wasn't able to is. She fully competes in in that final she was. She was hampered by injury but she that was that was her first. Wj five hundred. I know she has Previously up to forty one in the world so she's kind of she's now outside the top hundred say again she sort of own her way back up hatefully to where she she has been. Yeah like you said as the raver in that semifinal as well she was trying to become the first trying to reach her first final since twenty eleven ten years ago so that would have been you know some that would have been going going to kind of to to go all the way and you get to know the final but yeah. She's thirty six still going reasonably strong and doing. Well say yeah. It was nice to see how get to the latter stage over over wti event again. Yeah definitely and then. We had monterrey in mexico que which finished last night. Thick layla about biz off a really Quick turnover to get to miami. And i think playing qualifying that but some yes. She came through six one. Six four against qualified victoria golden bitch. I mean i think finance says i think similar to to mazzetti. She's been on my radar. I think you know for quite a while. But i think so i think special about her is is how young. She is in terms of parading on the the tour. I think she's eighteen years old. She was youngest player in the manger monterey but Yeah really really impressive stuff. She didn't drop a set the whole week. Very mature prefer performance and nations. Coming up against some players in some really good full mike saribas toll in the semi final. And you know she was looking like the. You know the the experience veteran. I'd say so. Yeah really really really good performance from her. Yeah and golly Is in good form as well because she reached the final in leeann a couple of weeks ago so as a qualify again she. She's reached she final say She's in great form in the moment as was surreal based tool macy. F anandas beijing. Although informed players. And i think she loves playing in mexico because she reached the acapulco final last year. I think losing to watson say she's you know she's She's doing she loves paying in mexico. What my saying i oversee. She plays doubles with with heather playing together at the australian apron. Say i'm of see quite good mates of with say nice to see an lee. Make the semifinals and leave if people remember members one of the joint winners of the one of the pre i summer series events as she shed talk to with a net controversy. So i've yet to see her of good form continuing as well. She's another young up and coming North american just say actually. Layla any fan dez. I did work some highlights. I think that she's worked on the most over the last well. It looks like anyway since kind of overlooked down. Maybe her her physical game feel like she's beefed up a little bit and she's adhd is old and that might come with time by philip. She's added a little bit more power to hike gabe. And that's making our little bit more of a handful Compared to i think you know a seasonal to a guy. But she's definitely one for the future and again one of these payers. I think we're talking about in terms of another potential top ten in the future. I mean canadian tennis. Katie women's tennis is a bit like a bed. Status the thanking later adding fernandez's certainly added itself into that in group of players. I think alongside on the rescue. I mean you. Gdp shots had good form of light as well. It's really kind of good to mix there. I think like all the maidment yay for sure and a few bricks while joe harry doll came in as luckily lucky beat heather wilson in the first round that lost to kaz up but yet see harriet getting into a main draw and katie butcher as well lost cargo whipped by schmidt of a nice to see some action as well. I think we're gonna take a quick break now but to join us in the second half where we'll be looking at the men's and women's draws in miami as what is the latest updates from wimbledon. Say see you in a moment. Then by bob away zimbabwe's turn the broken bunsen burner. Burn sue but south jamie southeast asian peninsula. Yes i think the only line we need from you today is drivers switched to progressive. Could save big cool. I just gotta finish my warm ups foul throw in the towel. History his switch to progressive today then to ski slalom. Innocent skin suit casualty. Insurance company and affiliates. This is the passing. Show your joined by joel and kim and before we get onto previewing. The miami masters joe. I think you've got a mysterious play for me. It's not right. I've got a mysterious play for you. All with the buzz sounds well. We've noticed safe back from out the salads i've s- people my friends basically it mess you. What's up saying they love the game. Show buzzer sound. So i think they're going to be in the future i yeah there will be more buzzer sound so Came at you ready. You ready feel mysterious playa. this week. I have indeed. Okay say my first clue is. I was born on the december twenty eighth nineteen seventy-nine if maths to keep my brain awake seventy nine hundred seventy nine okay. Say they are forty one any any any any guesses sorry. No that's that's it's too wide poor. joe okay. that's all. I have been the american number one. How old is lindsay davenport. What she be older than forty one because she slightly earlier than the serena error. Isn't she say probably not say lindsay. Davenport correct is the pool No my best singles grand slam achievement was the quarterfinals at the australian open in two thousand seven and the us open in two thousand five and two thousand six right rolling out. Some of the other people had in mind probably more doubles player than ups. If you're emphasizing singles but then very decent to get to the quarters so american doubles players aged forty one. It's it lisa. Raymond incorrect survey doesn't get shout. That's that's okay next. I have reached a career high eighty. Atp ranking hove while number four. Okay why was i thinking. It was like an email lisa. Raymond okay american man. Well before any quarters in singles a filter that could have narrowed it down quite a bit. Oh i've had a thought it. James blake correct james lake. Yes yeah it was. James blake He popped into my head for some reason. And i was like he had quite an interesting chris. I went with james blake. He had a horrendous injury didn't he. He breaks his neck heating ran into the post paste and break his neck. That's awful he say. Hey also Beat roger federer at the olympics in two thousand eight before losing to novak in the bronze medal game was one of my other clues. His autobiography is titled breaking back. How i lost everything and one back. My life very dramatic headlines. Classic autobiography spill. But no i think that'd be an interesting read. Yes so Yeah we'll james blake so yeah pretty. That was pretty quick. Actually some pretty pressed you go. Well i was going down very different. Reach to begin with if you had an say. Atp order being. I was gonna move onto the jill craybas anyway back to the tennis. Doing a mailbag this way. We're gonna go straight onto the miami rules which makes say about quite different drawers. I think the women's draw that's a most of the top players. Their bar serena williams who has had a rule surgery Which i think means something's teeth But i am amend soy. We have none of the big three that which is the first time that's happened to a masters event since two thousand and four and thirty one of the top one hundred or she not playing so yeah quite a drop in in the usual Say caliber that sounds pretty harsh. But there's been a lot of jake's game round basically on social media that anyone who's anyone could could stall play. Play the miami apron. The menstrual has been completely decimated. Has an and i think there's a lot of factors at play here and you know i. I don't think. I don't think you just say it's you know it's bad luck You know. I think it's it goes a lot deeper than that and i think you know this. You know the fact. The there's a reduction in prize money the fat the you know there's any one tournament is part of a double. There's no kind of indian wells and you know. The fact is so close to kind of the clay season. I think some of the players who are playing in europe or even the middle east they fancy going to another called to just to just to play one more tournament and going back into. You know a sort of kind of sata you know. That's that's not for them and as a result of the a of the players that just like you know. This isn't for me and kind of so have agreed with them. But i think what's interesting. Is the that miami mansfield particularly it just feels so open and it looks like a drool that could be made probably in a few years time given fat the you know the big three aren't going to be there. Yeah i was thinking that. Because the top four seeds medvedev's it's pass zverev and replay and a dominate team would would be in there in time but you know. There's no federal jovovich nepal. There is andy murray of history as he's got wall cost so that's sort of something but yeah. It is quite creepy creepy. But you know it's sort of like a side of the feature isn't it and but i mean it's still a great failed and they'll still top players but yeah this fan i'm always more engaged somewhat. When is in the draw. Obviously but see. I still still enough to get teeth into for sure. I mean it's i'm more interested. I suppose in players on those talk for seats such as azlan. If this is his first ever what is he going to do Out of oversee. Of course interested. In how andy's gonna get on jack draper britiain young british by. He's wild as well Which is great so say sorts of things. those sorts of stories. I'm looking for evans. He could be playing medvedev fourth-round if he gets there that that would be an interesting encounter. Say well what if you got your eye on joe looking. Just having a look at the draw. Yeah i mean i am looking at kerr is like the pickiest interesting story because i mean he seated seventeen thinker quite nice sexual draw. He's got players around him. He's beaten Recently he could. I think face re breath in the quarterfinals. Bob just interested to see how halloween can keep this going full because you know he's done so he's done say well. He's made such a dramatic entrance onto the tour at twenty seven years old. I'm curious to see how how can keep going and yeah. I'm interested to see how he gets. I'm interested to see how particularly in the path. I think with medvedev and zverev in that top path. I'm to see if they will both sort of continued their good form. I feel like there's a lot of players who are here in good form on hardcourts. And i think the question will be. Can they reach you quarter finals or semi finals. And you know looking at that towpath. Ame- medvedev have booklet. can fritz. Could be quite quite dangerous in that that boston in second quarter thing that second quarter actually is quite often Catch of dmitrov is all a bit of a in as little bit of a Coming to think of the chasing pack. There say yeah. It'd be interesting to see who get through and navigate all of these all of these challenges. Yeah it's tricky because medvedev has widened the title recently in marseille as vera just walden in acapulco overseas as one of couple of five hundred 's And sits pass well banking the final and acapulco that they are all in good form say. I've kind of making tentative predictions golden very much with the the top seeds. But i certainly wouldn't be surprised if felix see or even dan evans all are being one of those players. Come through and make semi wouldn't put it past any of them yet. You know yawning sitting like he said it is still more open than than if we did have been a to rich there. I mean andy. Murray joe no great your louis first round. He's as a bit disappointed. Because yeah i think that's a tough job. I mean yes. Louis harris could be a bit tired having to make that fly after reaching the final in dubai But that's not great. And even if he kinda comes through that could play bautisa definitely can be fresh in the second round very i think tough start for him. And you know it's been a tough in terms of the matchups. He's had in his first and second rounds of the tool. He has come back. It's just been very tough. Very uncompromising i just think this is a continuing is a continuation of that and is it's just the you know. It's the real It's anti my fans is so realization that it there are no easy games on on the tool and you know even in a really big draw like miami getting lloyd harrison round one. You know he's going to have to bring. He's he's going have to bring his age. Yeah exactly. I mean if it was a grand slob. You get anyone if you're if you're not seated then there's absolutely no guarantees so it's a lottery isn't the end of the day and Yeah we will have to say. I mean that's interesting wall in that like i said jack draper carlos ankara's of course the young spaniard. Ugo guests stalled and french open. Fame is in there. Which is fun i would if he's gonna throw in some drop shots as he did back on the on the clay. Yeah i think besides as well in for a chance of maybe getting to the fourth round. He's got a decent enough drool. yeah. I think he's in the ben wallpaper solve area of the drawer. He's definitely gonna get shot at efficacy mazzetti against parent. Not around if he comes through. Michael moore in the first round future. Vase has been playing. well could play replay. I think be his his number so yeah we will. We will see we will see. We will in eight and as for the women like we've got everyone there except serena pretty much asakusa back in action ash. Bharti's the top see. This is her. I told him that she played outside of australia. Since the pandemic began still the number one seed was still yet to some people participate. I suppose or we'll have to prove that she deserves it. We're in she. But yeah. I mean literally everyone is that is back as well betsy and tech as a rancor the list goes on as it does with women says the debt is so strong. I mean if we look at the The seedings and such like. I mean let's like for example ashbal top seed. She's gonna come up against as a rancor potentially in not fourth-round say i mean. Dc bossy going. Beyond that. i'd gave with for that one. Yeah i just. I just think. I didn't think party has a will of arrived here in any well. No form she's she didn't play in any of the middle east. So been recuperating from an injury say to come in yes go qualifier in opening match. But it's come up against as aranka an potentially sat lenka on who i think both days pace vertical very good records against yeah icon see her icon progressing that fall thing as aranka and sakhalin korean those in top quarter for me. Probably the you know the names to look out for but but even having set that as aranka. Maybe there's a little bit of a fitness doubt that sabah langas we. I mean the start of the season. We're talking about the subway gas streak but she seems to be playing more than hot in a loss in the last few tournaments as well so that talk quarter feels it could go. You know it does feel a little bit up for grabs thing. He and in the second quarter equal. Hal at bleeding warm cigar on the likes of ivantoc in the and funnily enough they could meets yet again in a fourth round so has had it must look at the draw for crying out loud. Why coco gulf looks like west. You'll teichmann drew. Yeah well they once opposite side. Say they won't be any tightening gulf. But yeah i mean. Spit selena in that section. But she hasn't had a very good run of luck. I wouldn't expect her to do that. Well she sort of seems to have gone off the boil katkov gov also in their conservative joe. Konta literally date knew what to expect from. J just go right first round lynette. Oman montgomery could face converted round and three of secrets in really good form winning in dubai. Maybe has a little bit of injury outs by. I think she was spit more precaution than anything. So yeah i mean just. He wants fits lena. she could play shell. she could play shelby. Rogers in the second round and think that's a very i mean. That's a very tough match confessed up for selena. An puerto rusk is in there as well so think selena. I'll be impressive. She can kind of get three that in and get three to even to the quarterfinals. But you think. Certainly i think in in that bottom in second. Quarter the pulse of the top off. Yeah i think madison keys. He knows madison keys. Egerton tech drown. That could be. I could be quite tasty tasty batches from the word gay with the women's show after say and then in the second the bottom half we've got a asarco is the second seat a headlining that but you got the return of severe cannon. This is behalf first tournament after having the appendix removal surgery in australia. I'm andrea skuas hair. Say another chance to see how she's going to get old and you know in a loaded draw of see she managed to get to the semi phillip island traifi so but probably still notes may be apples that she needs to be but this be a fantastic chance for us to see how how she is matching up. Jen brady as well. She has lost. I think all her matches since Making the final say a date know how well she's going to get one. She may have three based olmo and in the second round ceo informed player. And then of course. You've got the likes of jesse peculiar. He was very much inform- elliot's motions also of informed. Playa say i mean the list goes on a mugara forgot to mention. Jose vary inform. I think she's she's the most wins this season like she is. She's long. I mean you know looking at that. The that third quarter. I mean the canonization. Yes on the rescue. Is there seeded higher than the moog aretha And jan jan brady really but he feels inclined the reset and the the favourite to come out of that top bit and just to about a players. The drew i mean peculiar could face carolina appreciative again in the third round. Actual fish is does is not looking forward to to that prospect. I mean it's been pretty ruthless from particular she's been in she's probably been one of the most infamous players apart from mcgrath on the hot courts. you know. I'm interested and excited. See how she saw elise mertens as well. She's always good for a quarter-final. I think she frustratingly me for her could come up against a soccer in the full full frowns. So you know that could be. That could be an early test. I mean. I don't see a lot of looking asakusa puff. I don't see a lot of tasks really bought. Maybe that mertens match will be will be half us test. Yeah i think potentially something might happen with the soccer. I take no. I've not my semi finals. So i'm not sure Capelli's burton's having having away with her but also potentially fairly winnable ebeling rounds for katyusha. She's got christina push giver. Heather watson's qualify say. Yeah be nice to see them get if he wins under the belt as well. I'm joe shall we make some terrible predictions now at the miami. Let's day okay right. let's start with the. Let's start with the men. what are you going for. He'll to semi finals so semifinals. Okay very bulk standard. I'm afraid i've just gone with the top. Four seeds kivus bessis fair. Evan rip versus sit surpass. While i mean you call the feel like those are the most form players it separate. They feel a little bit separate. don't they. from from the rest ya. I would've gone for someone else if they hadn't been in good form But because they are just kind of fill the they have been gang. They are quite consistent. I have to say they've been sharing their consistency of late. So yeah hence. I my predictions by i have gone medvedev dimitrov. For some reason i think is going to be zeira an me my semi in the bottom off. I've got correct sev- again against cisa pass Yeah for some reason. I think david been playing right. This season of i think he's he's a got a capable and i think he might spring a surprise on us in miami. He's kind of free from pressure isn't he. Now he's just they wanna talking about him. So yeah. I like the sound of that i can. I'm down with that. I mean. I've verify to win against rib love in the final say. Hey if you go for of that. Medvedev medvedev current seven the final. I think it's i think regardless. I'm expecting all russian final. It might it could be reflected in the but i'm getting medvedev. Crafts have medvedev to win I think he's very good and Yeah i think he'll win the total respect about the fact that he needs to You know he is probably the best hardcore player at the moment and are expected to show that in miami this is also his first tournament as the world number t things to be. No this is new territory for him. I would actually love. I would love to win. That would be brilliant He'll probably lose in the first round of thinking about audit. I asked for the women. Joe who have gotten full in your semi finals. So i have gone sabah. Lanker versus kavita and then mugabe reuther versus asaka. I will caveat. I think for some reason danielle collins is going to do well in miami thinks she scheduled to face subway. Some point say I think that would be a real test facade blank. Obama expects that's come through that And i think just peculiar as well is in really good form of the moments. I would not be surprised if if she somehow gets to the the semifinals. But i'm gonna go with my the two big guns. I'm going to get with marie through no soccer. Not second semi nice. Okay yeah i. I'm going quite similar. I've gone supple anchor as well. But i've gone eggers field and tech to main sommes and then i've gone for mubarak as well but i've gone at least mertens i. I think it's because the obvious person but i. I just feel that way weird might happen and merchants will will come through community for in the final sapling waiting. I think she's gonna re she's going to get back onto that streak will now i come to think of it. I think i predicted her to win. One of the tournament's fee weeks ago oversee. She didn't say maybe the curse on her. I mean i've gone to the moog. Ruth vinyl and i mean convertible app. He'd love match shop so covetable winning it. Say yeah i've i've got. I've got mugabe for guessing a own back on a soccer in the second semi. But i think she'll get her own back on convertible in the final better. Yeah i'm sort of. I'm sort of expecting all the big names. I think to get to the latter stages of the the women's tournament. And yeah. I mean i'm not not as convinced maybe on the men's side. Certainly you know it definitely feels like they will be the most informant the monument. Yeah definitely and i would like to see moog. Aretha get her back soccer. Actually after the match points that would be a certainty. I think that would motivate her quite. Well let's just say so. That's the miami open will be obviously bringing all catch up over everything. That's going on in miami but before we go today joel just an update about wimbledon because they announced today one today announce last week. That's the way they're doing the tickets this year if there will be tickets Obviously they don't know what the government guidelines gained be if they're going to be allowed to have a crowd if they are allowed to have crowd. They've kind of said that they're going to be looking at capacity of around thirty percent of of usual but tickets all. Are you going to be sold through online tickets hours. Which would be in june once once. They know if they can have people or not. So there's no cue which probably isn't a surprise to many The ballot tickets that were held for this year will be deferred to next year. Which to me is is the sensible thing to i suppose And well the other thing was that the players are gonna have to say Set tournament hotels as opposed to what they usually do which just love them play at stay in houses in the local area. So that's going to change quite a bit. The setup for a lot of players which i think would be quite interesting up spies by that because obviously we saw i think the. Us open year. The they allowed players. I think like jovic round have homes and could go ahead and foldout private housing. Say if that might that might change or might not get to kind of see wimbledon. I think adapting to the situation and having for fans and the ticket situation around sort of the fact that it's going to be a ticket moss's style access to tickets not going to be ballot this year. I think fans will look at that and be like you know ally is gonna be very hard to get to get tickets you know is going to be there very i think transparent and very kind of it's going to be there and you're going to be able to try and get them in a way that i think a lot of people who understand in relation to kind of like the french shape and have a similar system. Usa open have a similar system. as well. say. I'm glad to see that and Yeah kind of looking. I guess i'm looking forward to it because you know we're seeing the moment. I think the situation in france is not particularly great and in paris. And i do think i've worn. I do wonder what that might have. Implications on in terms of the french open better. I'm very happy of women is going to be going ahead because we didn't have it last summer. And it's you know it's one of the one of the cornerstones of the tour so it's going to be really good to see it back with fans in fans in attendance possibly fans. That's still not one hundred percent or fingers crossed. I hope you're not concerned about the veteran's doubles because that has gone by wasilla from the schedule. Deeply deeply infuriated isolate saying about if gore and even virtual john mcenroe wherever on call eight in the second week has quite fun but yeah i mean i have to say i think they'll be not sleep. Bob and fight for ninety comes to. I think we'll be lucky to get anything. We'll see how i got my and the and the cost with. I think that brings us to It doesn't take joel for today. We're gonna get often. Start watching lots of miami and will be back with catch up well in the coming weeks. We will be coming back with a catch up amid week. 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"Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the show. Joan came the tennis poke costs by fans. On today's episode backed by a crowd funders marling and cynthia cherian keita. Matab wooden charleston. Saudi does the doubling cagliari and gareth's gets push back by one week a kim. The clay season is well and truly. Hey monte-carlo is just around the corner. We've had a week of clay events in the buildup in america and europe. We've had red clay. We've had greed clay as well. I mean excited at the prospect. You happy the hard courts and now very much well for now anyway in the review era as a as a raffle fan as fan. I am delighted that players claes. Hey it's monte-carlo which is just the most beautiful tournament in the world and we didn't have you lost your as well carting. Yeah for me just visually. It is the greatest ornament with the mountain view. The cpu is just stunning. And love. having it. I mean i love being that but i love jose watching on television. I love it when the aerial shot. See you see the scenery as well as the tennis. Of course but yeah really excited for raffles. Return this week and we'll be getting onto a bit later. When we preview the drool at the end of today's episode eight but we should start with with the clay that we've had this week the green try of charleston the red clay of elsewhere. Blue clay though joel Well yeah i mean. I feel like some people are really won't blue to baker an emergency gate or the tour. I just feel like. I feel like it's an un rooted in this chapter blue clay. I feel like there should be more chapters to come. Maybe after rough on the dow has retired. Because i know he's not he's not the biggest fan well roach ephedra federer. Fonz were walnut injury. Say he's the plea clay which we'll get. We'll give that to fed. Let's go yeah. We had like the green clay of charleston. Let's start there because that was the wj five hundred and the final is literally just finished about half an hour ago before we started recording. And that was veronica data against thank you. Kovic say two names that many people out familiar with two names. That probably i wouldn't have picked out come through to the final looking at the the top names that we have in the drawer but i think actually i think only knowing Well only one of the top ten z's made into the quarter-finals and that was ashbal she say it really wasn't a good week for the higher ranked. Wpa players was at joba in the end. Could you could matata has won. Have very first. Wj tighter without dropping set so fantastic week for for the young russian player. Yeah really impressive. From her i watched a bit of her match against stevens in her quarterfinal. She just has a really nice game really really easy on the eye of game to watch. I think quite flat. She likes to be quite aggressive. And i think she in in that sense eve is matt. She really has a big game. I think from the bay side i mean. I was reading in the preview to the final one. I think growing up. I was kind of maria. Maria sharp paver. You can think you can see aspects of moorish paribas game in. Hurricane is doing her kind of really while at the moment and yes. She was really impressive. This week winning all of her matches in straight-sets. And i think making the most solve some of the higher profile players perhaps being a little bit tired from miami suddenly feel like that was the case with kind of ashbal a as well but yeah i think very impressive stuff from her able to kind of get through kovic in the final as the favor should be really. Should we really really happy with. Yeah because they will have us title on the wpa and coming up against competition the final who is ranked ninety one in the world. So could you tape awards today. The clear favourite to win that one and she did do so in straight-sets. six four. six. Much tidier i think on the on on the court today Generates a lot more kind of break point chances and took them so upset deserve victory and i she's been playing really well weaken. She had a really strong season. i think she's about fifth in the in the wgn race entitled she got to the final in abu dhabi. She might the quarters in saint petersburg and now finally picking up. Sorry to hear so. She's going to be going up to the top thirty in the welsh between nine in the world from tomorrow. Say she is is like the the number one rushing player on the tour now say. I'm yeah fantastic. Week for and i don't sit for covenant she was also gunning for her first title on the wto toward an actually. She's been around for a while and she she has been to. Wj finals before but not for at least five years. So it's been a long long time since she's been at this stage of and this would have been her her biggest moment as well as she would have been able to pick it up today but we'll see not to be y- i mean she had a great win against patrick uva four and one in the in the in her route to the final and yeah it was just having a step to fall in the final irish covid actually because she got double bagel by ash balti- at the australian open on the harcourt court so obviously she has come a long way since sadden i if clay is her so of number one surface but you have really really impressive stuff to kind of come through quest stacked field i think in terms of high profile players in a five hundred. Come through unseeded. In that bottom half really good witness while against your in the semifinal if thing was was playing some of the best tennis this week because she was able to yes you just able to come through it pretty convincingly but yeah really impressive from hurts you to get to the final as well. He an honorable was the highest e. Left it was the twelfth sade. Go to the semi finals. And actually she. That was the first semifinal on the tour on clay which is surprising. I would have assumed that owns. You would have kind of got to that stage already. There we go say breaking into new territory as well but yeah great when for confidentiality baharan as well like you said she definitely i think make use of of some of the top seeds having gone out because hedgerow if you look on paper. You wasn't the toughest think anyone would disagree with that. But she's still got the job done against the likes of sloan stevens and pull up at isa. So i'm really kind of clean Clinical week for for him. I could i taper off. I think we have a mouthful. But yeah let's just mentioned slain stevens out. She joe because she had she had. I think pre decent we you know she goes to the to find she wanted. Three much is in a row including a win over fellow american madison keys. I'd also against tom ianovich. Do we think this is possibly the stall of ever slain stevens. Rene salem's yeah. She was really on form this think. She's been in terrible in a. She had that awful string of first round losses. Coaching changes and really really tough. And it was really insightful to hear actually this week some of the reasons why it's been so tough in her life actually over the last twelve months talking about the pandemic and she was just very frank about it and in one of the interview. She said a had caveat. I lost three people that were very close me. I'm in australia. And i literally had to go to my grandparents funeral on zoom. I was just not ready to play again. You can see this sort of implications the know the pandemic had on players and to kind of hear that is quite to hear that from you know someone like soon. Stevens is very kind of humanizing. These kind of elite level athletes. Now the things that they've they've been. I think science stevens potentially of all of the you know the players on the tour. She's probably out. You know the effects of covid you know the most won through having herself in the near the impact that has i guess on on her thickness and owner game. You know ability to train an excetera but it will say the fact that you know. Unfortunately it's it's affected her in other ways and that she's lost family and You can see. I think once you hear those sorts of things you can probably understand why she's having a tough very tough time of it on tour and the fact that she wasn't she felt like she was obliged to play but she wasn't she just wasn't mentally there and yet it's great to see her. I think rediscover some of the old form. Some of the ode sewn stevens that we've known as grandson champion coming out and being open and honest about how she's been feeling is refreshing because it does humanize you know these towpath leagues like he said we do. I think tend to forget that they all going through rough times off the time I do think when she won her has slam fears that come prepared of of injuries to have surgery so i wonder if she will build on this and use that as fuel for good But we'll have to say what she does. The rest of the season now at this is at least a positive star progression and clay might be the best best surface for rediscover that for my my my friend. Actually about the fact that she had a rilo garissa get semester highlight where she won the first set and then lost lost in three. I mean that was some of the best tennis. I think we've ever seen st stephen's play in her career. I think certainly the the clay season in terms of kind of americans. I sat anything. She's one of the mole natural players on on a clay-court so i have no reason to see why she kind of continue this full Onto the red clay in in europe. And it'll be interesting to see how she develops. Because i do think she is more one of those natural players. There's not true america. it's not just about kind of courts thing kind of game just also is very well suited to the clay quotes as well. Yeah i think she's going to gain all surfaces. So i really hate that. We d get back up there and and let's just talk about ashkenazi. you mentioned joel. The she was bit tired. Probably coming in off of miami title. And it's tough to go straight from hardcourts onto clay with without any space in between. And i think that showed because ashcroft lost polar producer in straight-sets in the quarter-finals and be fed policy. I think you know she didn't play badly what she was just knock. It just didn't in her just so stupid. I mean not much show we rogers. I think it just came through six four six four. She absolutely takao with her. And as you said the switch from hard court to clay court in such a short of time having you know having one miami like what forty hours before wouldn't have been you know he wouldn't have been easy i. She thinks playful heart for for actually turning up because she often she can very easily could have withdrawn and the tournament organizer and fans for he would say you know fair enough but She was oversee keen to get on with it. But i think yeah she just ran out with ran out of steam and it was a it was it was a story fascist bossi but also the story for for copying maruta. But i feel like that the the end result was it was different because vast balti was just in a cave in the form of a pretty comprehensive lost i think to to produce a four and three but we've moog ruth i was. It was a bit more is all wasn't a against Against the we as she was six love up. and that's mark. maguire says. She was steaming through that first. Set six up against didn't for two seconds and then yeah meager rita just retired seemingly out but i think what she she said was that she had pain in her leg and kind of it kind of came on strongly. All of a sudden of slee shouldn't want to risk anything. What with know grand slam leeming and and the rest of the clay court season. So she said well you know. I thought it was best to to pull out. And maybe she she did feel also. Yeah but if a tiredness just because she has played i think the most matches of anyone on the tour so far this year an atp all wti or so. I think you know. She's probably being quite sensible with without decision To to withdraw earned. I mean yeah. I think you know you bought eight eight years. You've got to listen to it. And that's what she did even though did come as a bit of a bit of a shock because because she said she was already feeling some pain in her first match so was bit. Okay i was. i was kinda thinking. While if that was the case why didn't you just kind of drooled before. But she obviously felt the in that moment. It just wasn't it just wasn't worth the worth and you know. We know mugabe through her preferred surface. We think against Game but i think she does love. You know the the clay courts and you know. I think hopefully systems be guy for potentially a a crack at the french open nature on and this was just a precautionary thing but you date offered say players cut of retire off to bake league reported. They yulia participated been very cut fact that she kind of retired when she because it felt like. It was probably going to be way traffic. I mean to be honest. We cut big wreath at the tennis playing this season. I thought she was just going to seem wrote it. Three two through to the final. And if if a body i think hadn't solve played a potentially that could have happened but i think again is just showing fans and everyone out there that how demanding the season campaign play his. Feel more pressured at the moment because there were less tournaments or it's harder to travel whether they feel like they need to play these matches and that's putting you know these situations in front of us but as you said when you body tells you to stop you can stop. Yeah as well less prize money on offer and you know. I'm not saying we agree. There would be thinking about that. Think she doesn't need to are necessarily but prize money but the plays certainly they must be thinking of to really make the most of every match every week on torn that not certain someone else in bogota has been doing joe maria camilla sewri set on. He was a walled card from columbia playing at her home. Event is only have fourth. Wpa event ever. She's she's won the tournament in front of ood her home home fans and becoming the lowest ranked. Wj winner For a couple years she's ranked down one hundred and eighty in the world on a to think. Well i mean. The loopholes must be absolutely delighted because coming in as a wildcard going with the title. Don't think many people would necessarily have predicted that one. Now that was that was opposite. He had i watched. I caught the caught. The end of it was obviously very emotional. I think they actually played the national anthem as well the In the build up to the final it was a very passionate faron really really impressive and columbia obviously have cat previous Tennis kind of champions. Remember kind of fabio zulaga. She won the event four times in one thousand nine hundred nine between two thousand to two thousand four but the fact that they've this new Well potentially do Tennis prodigy coming up at. It'll be a massive shot in the arm. I imagine the colombian tennis and It was it was a cinderella story that just it just kept on giving and you know she. She had previous at this woman. I think she. She got to the quarter-finals. Last time she played in to the champion anisimov but really really impressive sophomore to go through to the final. I live up to the expectation as well. Yes you go give it. The wildcard yes. You're t in front of you hype fads in the fido. Fill your your. You've got the pressure to deliver the definitely a pretty good really good solid week as you. And he dropped one say in the final against tomorrow. Sedan zach who herself is is not exactly a household name. But yeah there's a source said on like. She gained her first witness week. Over two hundred player and Yeah really really good rubbing three to the title. I we will kind of saying this is three bays told name away she went and loss to saw in the in the first round a but you can never rule out sour aronie. She is a french open. Fine less o obviously has form on clay court but some yet really nice story She said bit of cinderella story. But bit marcus willis esque your of columbia tata's yes yeah to the atp side. We had a couple of two fifties on the red clay and we'll start in category that we had the home home favourite. Lorenzo santiago beat laszlo asia in a three-set final two six seven six six full sauna guy really had had a radio. Radio good wait. He became the first italian in fifteen years to capture an atp tool title on home soil. I think he won the doubles as well. So y- today the singles and the doubles. He must have been playing very good tennis this week. In cagliari I watched the highlights skins fritz in the semi final and Yeah it was a very very very attritional and yet very impressive from him italian tennis. I feel like we've said a million times before came to light talia. Tennis is in a real purple patch. The baby if we're talking about yet said uh talk about lorenzo. Saudi maybe caller it'll be. Rtd bay feels like this is just an endless convey about the moment of italian particularly italian male players that are really doing doing business on the tour coming through out together and Every song ago yes he. He's the double at say he did. Partner with vassar. Vava sauri To win the doubles. I think is the one that won the title with lloyd. Glass pool. A few weeks gape. Yeah really good i. He's also the one that wanted against yovich loss jason. Hey i think he got that random victory in vienna. I won't say but Anyhow yeah really. Good week for him. He's a to those. And hey joe which. It's minus points for him to pick if list of what. Chevy of his is batches this week but his grunting is verging on on screaming. And i'm like i'm okay with that. If the length of is the thing that gets me and it feels like it's verging on. It feels like it is verging on the hindrance of the other player. The length his kind of grunt goes on full. And i don't know if it's just habitual. Because i think a lot fads The fact that he he does the same sort of voice. Whoever is a really brutal kind of four hundred for the bay side as well as a gentle backhand slice so i feel he doesn't it it doesn't necessarily hey himself to Fans we've got potential. Consult but yeah. It didn't it. Didn't i was actually surprised. I don't think any of the players is opponents. Picked up on it. I think if i was playing him i certainly would be having a word with the umpire. Because a particularly in that fritz match it was just it was just relentless in default. The it was i felt. It was pitching fritz to be honest. And if the atp might have a a word him he listened. Who knows i d. Think if there is one aspect of his gaby's wacko. This is baby scrub take because it's just yet it is just very very loud and very very long do you think is so approaching hit the march for one lorenzo to another and enough a know young italian lorenza mazzetti so we had kind of a marked and we that he might be paying down. Evans in the second round. Donovan's being the top seed. This event we did say oh. That could be quite interesting match. An insert approved bay because Well set tiebreak and donovan. At full matchpoints abbott musashi managed to to save the more And and win that walden On that law set tiebreak. And i mean that was a. Yeah cracking cracking. Finish to a vivid topsy turvy. I set so they both auden six one. But yeah what did you make the. I wasn't safaris. That dan lost walden says she knows of really good prospects and young talented player but bit frustrating john. He couldn't manage to the line. After having four match point i know i think i think now is the most disappointing because if you look at the list he was the early one of the top four seeds dot the. Make it but we did. We did the mazzetti is a such a. He's such a talented player. And he had some of those break food breakthrough victories law season. And he's backing this season. He is one of these payers. Think along with yanic senator. It's just like you just do not want to face him if you're a top one of the top ranked guys early on because he such a such a talented player and Really his backhand i think is the jewel in the crown of his. Gabe just looks absolutely fantastic on screen. And i'm really interested to see where where he can go in this quaco season because he just loves he just loves playing on it. He loves playing to the crowd. Thought it was quite funny in. The batch has evans what he did what he did win when he chucked his rocket. He's very passionate. You'd like chuck. It always like looked at anger. But it was wolf's celebration but some really really impressive from him. I'm really interested to see how he gets on the in monte carlo and i think just a word on on don evans it was i. Think another sort of frustrating result for him. I think miami. We said he had a three set match against tiafoe which he lost the he felt. That was maybe fifty fifty. Maybe should have won a gain in in dubai before that. And i think you'll you'll gain look at this match. Be disappointed with the outcome of it particularly after winning that that second sat six one to go and lose it you would have thought that he would have the momentum to just kind of go on and against a talented but inexperienced opponent. But it wasn't the case so you know that property says a lot about kind of musetti in his mental toughness and Yeah i think don evans would be slightly disappointed with his his results in the in the signals as the top seed. He did the double semi say playing with federico korea. So yeah he. He's doing quite well enough to call back. Because it's i didn't feel that he's using the double to get bored. Just got to practice No actually gig could go on with the title. Abe yup miami cagliari. He's he's he seems to be getting the business said the the The double feasting king while to find those under the season whether Whether i could go for the doubles He's playing with different partners as well. But i was thinking what could save going. Deeper slab ended up. But we'll see but we also had more bayer t fifty the atp which case for spanish tennis Because obviously lots of spines in the draw in that event and we had four spaniards in the semifinals. Which shop did we ever expect anything else. But she is the first time the full players from the same country of being in the semifinals over. Atp event for seventeen years and it's funny because we thought with the wj an instant petersburg didn't we were. I think seven if the lost eight were russians and now we've had something similar happening again in the men's game but in the end it was. Pcp poplar ukrainian vista. He came through and the title again. Xiaomei manal in the final in three sets today. Six one six six four Yeah he's kind of quite par for the course. I think he was the top seed. I could tell you these same. Winning it from the word guy came through in a in a loss at tie-break against romo's bananas in the semi finals and i was really pleased to see in a final. Because he's kind of a young obviously young if she hasn't really done what i thought he could be capable of doing so i was pleased to see him. Get to final He is from new yorker. And i guess in raffish shadowing very much but it see. I think he's going to be up. That like paps carlos alvarez who got to the semifinals how to really impressive week app but fell to two in the semis but colors outcries. It was funny because he came up against feliciano lopez who was obviously one of the elder statesman of the eighty four. I think it was the third biggest age gap between tepa on tour since nineteen ninety late as could be his his his dad couldn't he could be. I don't really that was really really a battle of the literally battle of the ages with alcaraz coming through Just old semi final against munoz. I thought it was really interesting. Because i think both those players i mean moon. Aw he's an alumni of the you know the next gen and you know. I don't think. I think he's in the sort of davidge makina camp in his. Don't think we're expecting them to be up in lights in in the same regard is potentially like a an alcatraz or musetti but i think muna a bit more the fact that has a bit more experienced. An outcry outcries seventeen years old. I think munoz experienced sort of told and it was interesting to hear from outcries in the post-match of the post-match price-match interview after the moon defy spoke about the fact the was just very very solid. And you just didn't have on news actually getting very frustrated with yourself and just just i think it's just a reminder that he seventeen he's a lot he's got a lot to learn and i think he learned in that much he just didn't have a plan. B no you know what to do and as a result of that you get a bit frustrated with himself. But i definitely feel like alcatraz mazzetti. They both had very good weeks. And particularly i think in these two fifty events able to get the match practice. The is gonna help them build and hopefully give them more You know time on call more time to learn so that when they have those opportunities at the the moss's events necessities to wolcott for example into monte-carlo then able to really cut that court with the mental and understand what they need to do to really kind of it really makes make some waves definitely and it was nice to see beyond book watching on today. watching the final. His son leo was at while he was playing in the qualifying for this tournament. Aussie out there Watching his son but also staying on to To watch the tournament a fantastic event spaniards out in bombay. It was lovely to see when ed coffee fans there as well which was overseen nice sabre. Yeah of quite partial tip of spanish tennis. Om on that. We're going to take a quick break now. But do join us in the second half where we'll be looking at the monte carlo draw as what is all the news from roland garros so join us in a sack Hike the trail check order takeout. Check schedule heart check-up done we've all adapted to a new way of living. Keep your healthcare on schedule with johns hopkins medicine where your health and safety are our highest priorities. We're ready to care for you. Through virtual and in person visits across maryland and the greater washington region. Your health our experts safely caring for you. Schedule your care now. Learn more at hopkins medicine dot org forward slash safe. This is the policy. Show your joined by jolan. Kim and before we get onto the news from the eight hundred eight ors. I think we've got a new a new game parsley joe. We've been places. We have been scheming. Passion short hd. I've the last few weeks avenue game and you game to rival mysterious player that we obviously we wouldn't you guys to play along with as well came up cooled it. It's gonna be cooled. Paul for the court. The game is called powerful. The core and what the idea of this game is. I am going to give you a category and a from that category. You're gonna give me as many correct answers in a row as possible. And i'm going to set you apart school that you're going to try to match or beat without getting a wrong on sir. So do you understand the rules. I know i probably explain them. Just very convoluted but do you understand what i'm saying. I joe i say. I've got to be really on on if i give the wrong answer. I'm outraged competing for the game. I think so is the question. Won't say so. We've got monte-carlo monte carlo coming out and i know you're a big fan say. My category four year is players who have lost to rafael nadal in monte-carlo fine knows. Oh my gosh narrow one. Two three four five six seven eight. There are eight players that rafeh has beaten in monte carlo. Masters finals and i know this is quite tough question. So my paul for the court is going to be fifty percents. I'm going to say four four correct answers in a row. It's funny you say that because in my head is lot. Oh thank god gave for four. I'm vicious. I'm gonna say i can get five okay dating. I'd get all eight but we'll see we'll see slight light commence. Yes will me your answer okay. For the obvious ones nave djokovic. Correct ephedra correct roberto battista. Surely i'm still rafter. Thrashed him like sixteen. Six love was that rambled finance. Oh no i'll give you a slight a- give you a slight inde- if you wanna change your answer. Because i know they are if both got double barrelled names if you want to change your to ramush finola. I'm going to let you because it's because it's a new game and i'm feeling so it was rams finola correct it will be. I will admit i lost this. But i'll carry on and see. How many accurate i'm stan. Wawrinka incorr- is kim. This is i mean. I thought this is going to be a test. But incorrect is consensus fade like in recent years i would say lots of random people folk meany. Did he lose in a final shefa incorrect. No nishikori yes if we corey is correct loss in twenty eighteen okay He's wanted so many times. I just can't remember i can. I'm happy i can happily give you the rest of the just one andy murray does he get final incorrect. No i think are yeah. I mean it was quite quite quite a tough one bitter. You could have given me two thousand and five his first monte-carlo malls title. It'd be korea spoken about that on the polk. May we have finance over daska. He'd be in twenty years. Came up say dovid. Farrah goes off and the one other play. You could have said. was gilman feace twenty-six seen. He beat gelman face. I yeah it was korea. Federa jackovitch vasco farrah mom face remorse manolas and cavendish nishikori. Maybe that was quite tough but you. You would not par for the courts today. It's no snake i was. I had a bogey. does that mean above now i. That's why i like tennis on right so moving on. We did have a mailbox this week. Joe but we do have just a night of thanks to some of our listeners because in news the pleasant news. That guy won't fees. And elaine sciolino getting married We took my husband and wife doubles teams and we had a few comments from listeners. And about suggestions say we have Fluffier panetta in february for meany overseen. They are now married. Jackson enslaved stevens. They don't married. They wear a couple a time and they did play. Doubles and oversee team and renovate says well i think ped- up. They were an item as well. Say thanks to talk spin for pointing. Those names out stephanie. Lot more ray. Manson tore them. We re read iced tea. I should have known that one because that was quite a high profile one because we were like he's up. This is the it couple of tennis full. Well however that however four yeah exactly but we also had to juliana right to get in touch with us say the she remembered sam growth used to play doubles with then wife yamile gadget gadget over and the she watched the one time play and she felt that every time they lost the point she felt it. Could i quite could end in divorce. Which i absolutely loved reading. It may be lost. Laugh out loud. yeah. I love these husband wife a double at just that great and maybe switch leader mom face. I feel like it's inevitable came shortly. They're going to be adding themselves to this this list. This exclusive list of of doubles partners. I would say. But i think who wanna obviously was was right because low behold. They did get divorced. Say whether that we date night really better way back to the tennis. We have had the news this week that the french open is being postponed by week and it is now going to be commencing on the thirtieth Instead of the twenty that's for the major qualifying will be starting well on the twenty fourth of may anyway says essential back a week. So the this is because of rising caveat rates in inference currently on a sort of locked down another lockdown and they want to make sure that the tournament has adequate time to be after accommodate the number fans. They're hoping they can and will the hospitality and everything to me joe a week. I don't know if it's gonna make an awful lot of difference if if it's that bad cave it is a week going to really help the situation or yeah that was gut reaction as well and You know the other sort of when i saw this as breaking these my other sort of reaction was the the line of argument here is that they want to get fans in to pay. And that's that's all right. But i feel like it should be like we would love that happened but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case so i don't know if tickets oversee really really important or the value that that kind of brings in is really important for the french and that's why have gone into this move because we've seen i think tournaments in similar you know in in in cities and countries with particularly bad rates. Going back to kind of earlier stages in the pandemic just going on whilst you know like a lockdown going around elsewhere but they obviously didn't want to do dot say yeah. They've decided it's kind of spain by week and thing this the the backdrop of this is the fact the last year. They did kind of go off on themselves. I doubt they they were going to be the toilet to tell you back and players of people kind looking at making this with with similarities in terms of it feeling quite selfish because that will eat into the girl that will cut the grass season by week and there are actually tournaments going on Meant to be at. The moment is scheduled to be going on on that propose. Kind of second week of the french open. Got not in and her talkin bosch in the netherlands. It's you know it feels a bit a tonight if feels very kind of confusing at the moment. Because i don't know what situation where you kind of expect yourselves for. In terms of the moment it could be you know. We have a second week of the french open but that's going to be. Atp giggled as well on across schools. Yeah i mean that's not completely foreign because back in the day. The girls goes. He's literally started the day off to the french open. Final and i think there would have already been like challenges and stuff on the galaxy nigerian word and guiral but yeah i think. That's the issue isn't it. They told them if they are forced to amend their dates as a result of the fringe being put back a week. Then people saying the french tennis arrangement sort of reimbursed as tournaments for any costs incurred but then i really think they need to change those tournaments because by that point as many people have rightly said there's going to be many players who are already out of garros and he will be thinking about the girls ready to play on the girls and i'm sure they'll be adequate numbers Playing on this space. The likes of nottingham head. They're not going to get the caliber of players. They would have wanted. Some of the top seeds won't be there and that's the main issue that's would have drawn a lot of people to the event sponsors and what you think this time. The french haven't sort of just go ahead and made this decision nyc. It has been discussed with the grand slam board and it's been ordered by the other slam. Say they have consulted on on this one this time and generally it's it's been received. Okay i think. I mean say that came. I mean there have been some players. You've been quite vocal about this. A not particularly happy about it. Elise corny people may have seen at ben. Rothenberg tweeted at least canadian interview with the tennis channel and talks about the fact that she was a not happy at all the the persona and Citing i think very little so of conversation between The the event of the players offic Literally just found out the like the view itself initially when you know was not happy to an arena. Rodion uva tweeted. I'd much rather play an extra week on gross than the french open. And i know for a fact i'm not the only one unfortunately. Rg doesn't ask anyone's opinion so it does sound like although there's been a collaboration and cooperation between the grand slams and You know the boards boards as well. The seems to be a a missing some sort of gap between that In terms of the communication between them and the players because we still getting these sorts of These these views kind of come up. And i think that is sort of disappointing because almost kind. What did we learn from the french. Open moving last year and it doesn't feel like we've we've kind of rectified. I would just say. I feel like if we do have those gross kohl's events in the second week of the french open. I think there is a questionnaire in terms of the credit like does this affect the credibility of very long garrels in terms of the the tournament organizers for when that will be is on other tournaments elsewhere whilst the one of the big grand slam of the year is going on. And i think that's the the issue is in terms of that exclusivity. The would have had if i had started the week the week before. But the fact is lost its exclusivity. I wonder my personal feeling. Is that if that's the compromise. You're going to have to make if you're going to tell people very last minute. Notice that you're you're moving week but some. Yeah that's the issue. Yes no jail because as a fine you know. I want to cheat in and watch like the french open. Semis probably more than watching the quarterfinals of federal combo. I would probably choose to watch the grand slam as opposed to so yes. I do agree. It's not ideal to have everything happening in longer. And i know that you'll see cave. It makes these sorts of decisions. You know it it's not easy I do think that the french tennis ration- must be just thinking of finances in must be thinking we need to get as many fans in as possible and the anyway we're going to do that is to give ourselves a bit more time but also the other thing is the the full running events to the french shape in madrid and right they would be scheduled back to back at the start of may but some proposals being made that there would be a week's break between those two so you'd have madrid then week of then room But have that they call it and how you stay in the week that you know the one week later. So i think that's going to have to stay as it is not case and just have a big gap before the french open. But also i suppose if you do. What are the french. You'll then hidden only for the gross. You've got one less week path. Unless woman to play before wimbledon says just no ideal for anyone not exactly and in particularly if you will play a who might not necessarily be. You might be thinking Roughest going to win his next guy's crown kind of what's the point you know seen a big pies light. Roger federa escaped kind of places in the french open in recent seasons. I mean we'll really. Can we expect from. Andy murray as well on on the clay courts particular. We know. he's such a fantastic play on the cross courts. You gotta think the you know whether they might feel actually if this is the case. And i want to be in tip top shape on my best surface. Do i just get the you know. The french open altogether. I think that remains to that remains to be seen. But i think if it if it does go on like this is putting players in a dilemma in terms of you know d. Choose to play the french open or cheese to get an extra week on the grass courts that potentially could be to your to your advantage. Yeah i think someplace way up in mind you know. Someplace might be having hoped high. Clay might go very wrong in the first week of and garros but then the silver lining will be that they might end up doing own girls as a result which does often happen. But we'll see we'll be keeping up to date with any news. It does come out in the coming week. Save this one so yeah. We'll see how how it will get home but i'm just looking forward to. When i feel like a devotee blay said the biggest issue is going to be wives. If a week does it do anything. And they've just moved here at the silver allowed fans skunk set. Even more people say they might suddenly last minute. Be like sorry. It's not happening. And maybe he knows yeah then. Everyone will have even more time on the say. Yeah that will certainly be interesting to see that happening because it just feels like a complete waste of the clay season with just about why. It's been done for a week vs move to october because if it was you know what bill you know like every clay season building something right now. Where stocks and not. Always nomi ends at roland garros and we knew we need to have right on garros as employees. Say that it's just feels like it's just a little bit. More protracted given this news idea i agree. Let's move onto interesting announcement. Actually and that is the toning adult is joining. faa's coaching team so chaining. It all is coming back onto the tall with felix He's gonna join them for the grand slams and sort of selected tournaments. I don't think he's planning on being that all the time. Just kind of the big the big events and but yeah getting back into into the game and onto the tour coaching oviously. Tony was rough his cage for many years since he was a young I think faa went out to me. Orca in december to kind of talk through with him and and fred who's kind of existing coach. Fred from tang and yet obviously it will go on very well and tony is is signed up to how how faa so. I think yeah quite an interesting paps. Unexpected announcement of of their partnership. Yeah that took me identify for our listeners. But that certainly took me by surprise. Obviously we'd know faa's potential but we will say his struggles at the baby physically with finals. And i think having someone like tony the dial ed your side is gonna help. It is going to help you game. yeah he knows what is like to breed You know one of the greatest of all time. And i think there's no doubt the same has no potential to be a very very accomplished player arguably a future grand slam winner but there are definitely i think certainly kind of force in his game in the moment and you know he. He's probably thinking you know anita going to get to that next level and occupancy this is a him makes it it makes a lot of sense and is very surprising because of the see we see that the dow the dow name and see mid cbs' court now and you know that i about juppe against rafa that's it just adds another layer of fascination intrigued to it because They they play. You know they hit. You have fostered that relationship over such a long period of time. And now he's going to. He's going to another camp. Yeah i think it's interesting e someone else. What will happen when they have to play each other I think tony said that he wouldn't he wouldn't be in either of epoch. Says he would just sort of say away from the actual court maybe but if rafeh to lose to someone then it would be k if it was if i if i but Yeah i think. I think appropriate but i think. Faa's is the type of character that would go well with with training dollar. He seems a very genuine calling individual. I didn't think tiny would get involved with anyone that that wasn't say because he's a really nice blake and i think felix as well said how we think. That's quite a nice nice though partnership. And i wish them well and we'll have to see you know how faa gets on in monte carlo. Because i take notes sort of an immediate saying now is. She advises him kind of from. Now say yeah. We'll have to see if there's any instant results that payton and let's just talk about the monte-carlo drawer because over say it's the dormant has got underway already ready We'll see the the big names of they accept federal is not there dominate team is playing. He said he's not ready to to return yet. He's he's eyeing a return in in belgrade which is interesting the he has decided not not play this one. He's not obviously had the best. Start of the season. You know that you had that match against curious when she came through reading fantastically and then almost causing las variant tactically to greg dimitrov. We really had much since then. We know he's such a fantastic competitor on the clay call. So yeah it was. A bit of a surprise that dayton if there's any injury issues that didn't sound like it could be completely wrong So he is not their think. The i think when the draw came out i think the most interesting to see was Bev was is now the second sikh. He's above rafeh in the rankings and therefore it was interesting to see where nadal was gonna land. Was he gonna land on jovic aside was he gonna land on medvedev side and he has landed on medvedev side so we still could very much have nadal djokovic final Let's let's look at top off. Nets look at jackovitch vessel because it we've not really had much of Well if anything. We see to monaco since his triumph Could come up against vera in the quarterfinals if the seats easily and bertini is while they're not taught poff the most interesting thing that he's is he could face in in in the second round. Yes that will be certainly interesting and looking. I guess likely because of center indecent four weeks rams bernudo stay first round who is off his decent and is a former monte-carlo finalist learned today but jovovich didn't play miami he's apprenticeship time practicing on clay. The last few weeks a i would be surprised if jovic lost early even if he did. Come up against you know. He's a decent draw and just joke rich monte carlo. You know he lives there. He's very much just a date really him slipping up before the latter stages mean district. Rich enough said well. Yeah exactly. although multi-colour phil had some random losses in the heat does mean. He does win or he does lose quite early like randomly alien. Say you know. I think coming in code against someone like signal schmidt that is going to be a tough one but i think he gets a bit easier as he kind of goes on. Interestingly lorenzo missile has a wildcard he could play sorry he does play as lon- current says in the first which quite an exciting one i mean in the kind of the the second quarter assists bertini Bertini again play with newt. Radi macho of you. I think had an injury Has been out since the australian open so feels like he could be a very much One there for the taking six pass we know is good on clay call. I mean yeah. It's that feels like quite an open quarter for me. Yeah i think i think say yes. It's may well come through that one bertini. I've got fine list. I think when. I was looking at the door or making predictions and not from that particular. I mean looking at the bottom off medvedev being the number t eat now head. Mona creko still a bit like baseball. Perhaps but the thing is. He has made the semifinals of monte-carlo before he's actually beaten express and jovic a at that time. You know his run to the semis. In monte-carlo i'd i think we can say oh it's a critical he might like playing on clay But it may not see his game as well. We certainly able to play and play well. yeah i mean like fog. Meany are in his little section and folk needy has has film at this event but didn't have a very good week in mob area Kind of full. Yeah but he sort of one of these past probably get suddenly turn on but schwartzman and karina booster are lurking in medvedev's court say potentially one of those two may make it through To a semi final perhaps But referee certainly has one say about that. He's got a decent joy. Think demonstra third round possibly are. I know that they've had a cracker Gauche many many as at monte colorado's at that match greco took a set of rougher and was looking a bit dodgy at some points but yeah i never quarterfinal potentially or overbites about. He's degree so you know. Decent decent plays and raffles note. Ready if he's not fully if he's not warmed up enough he may struggle. But it's it's hard to tell. I think we just need to i. It's been ages. it's rough as stepson's go so it's really hard to know how he's going to be. I would hope. Obviously that he'll be able to regain full of old that we have seen him play in a save many times in one monte-carlo seventy times. But it's just we don't really know until that first that first match when he steps i think lonzo chris yeah we just don't know we haven't really seen them in awhile. Say you know we know that. Obviously fantastic fantastic fantastic players and they've both got previous at monte carlo. So be fascinating to see how they do. Gabe i completely forgot. Because we didn't have monte colosio fabio folk meany is the current reigning champion. So that's i mean that's how that's how much talent here your go. Yeah yeah. I think i think dead school quite a tough for me. Medvedev's probably the toughest re of the top foresees. I mean he could face bassil asheville your carnage in round to think massa's release pay quite well This week so yeah. I think i think it's going to be quite difficult for medvedev from being on his. You would expect the dow unless his body says says something different. You'd expect him to at least get to the semi final. Probably final say. Well yeah i mean where were you. Where are you thinking in terms of. You'll you'll prediction. Gimme a will your poff top off in baltimore semifinals. Well i've go jock vich. Obviously and i've come for christian garin to make the semifinals. I think he's really isn't much form. But i'm just thinking well he's pren- decent on a clay court and i think there'll be a rogue semi-finalists i'm i'm gonna give garren and then bottom half of For against diego schwartzman suck on another south american. I think shorts will beat. Medvedev in the coaches will about joe so very much i think with the top off a guy with the form book. I've got jovic versus surpass. I just feel like that is just nailed to be honest. The jewel Bottom half a little bit more interesting of oversea nidal coming through. I think he's gonna face carnaby's today in the semifinal beat schwartzman philip medvedev if there is one of the top four seasons gonna lose early. I think is going to be medvedev. Think craniofacial basler's fairly might might get him So Yeah i'm getting the dow pcb with a jock itch. Natale final and gordon adele winning. Which i'm sure. We'll we'll please i also and then raffarin. The final hadn't made up my mind about the winner. But i will say rafeh. Just based on history. And my personal preferences i dissolve height my dreams come true. Joe enough of wins. But we'll say yeah. We'll say that that is happening this week. I show be tuning in of course and yet. Lovely monte-carlo tally. We've also randomly go. Wchs fifty in charleston happening which is in the same location. Obviously the five hundred this week. So someplace staying on for that That's being headlined by orange bowl. He is the top seed and jose shall roaches is. That under magda linette is the second siege. That's surprising i would have thought shelby was would be higher ranked than her power nizhny. I feel like shelby. Rogers will fillet feel like she'll do. Something fishy lost a very tough warnings. Ashbal tubing she could come through that again. Mike nelson's second say she's got maria serano osorio who just one bogota say. They're on a lorry in the wrong way. Round up four names out. New combination was be wrong but tab. Yeah that will be fascinating and then you go a covenant as well. He was a finalist. She's unseeded again so maybe she can go one better. Yeah absolutely and we also have coming. Up is the billie. Jean king cup formerly known as the fed cup. We've got some qualifying rounds going on Including great britain vs mexico which well if birsh Witness all be very surprised. Because you had the wilson. Harriet dog swollen jd barging katie border up against the mexican team Which i think. In terms of rankings. All considerably lower ranked. Their top player is world number. Two hundred eighty five marcella. Zacarias juliana fernando carreira and you The number one player renault as our who many people will have head of is is not playing. So i think we've got really goodchild's joe to come through this at home to mexico. I'd be really surprised if we didn't manage to win this one everything i feel everything is for this time. It's it's a it's a home it's on it's on hardcore into hardcore outdoor hardcourt. Whatever it's not on clay yes. There's joy contour. But you feel like with the experience of have watson you ship able to get that done relatively easily thing. It will be interesting. Who who will go with have watson for the singles Which guy with. I mean we saw or would you go with katie boots. I feel like you would go with. Katie boulter i think katie ball just got very decent win ratio at cop and was really important back in two thousand. Nineteen victory for catholic saw that wind. She had a ver diaz. I think so. Yeah i think passing probably border but egypt jd. Bahrain is being selected. This'll be first time. Playing in the fed cup team will billie jean king cup team is a mouthful but we've also got This weekend some other playoffs. We've got the likes of romania ukraine on the netherlands. Playings oversee people. Like somebody. And how it fits. Lena kiki bossons. They are old and action in playoffs in various locations. So yeah definitely is happening this year. And i think that the finals for the fed cup jinking cup though juice tape as april mental state. That's being postponed since last year. 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Episode 273m: 2020 U.S. Open Day 12 - Zverev & Thiem are Last Men Standing

No Challenges Remaining

56:50 min | 7 months ago

Episode 273m: 2020 U.S. Open Day 12 - Zverev & Thiem are Last Men Standing

"The. Welcome to no challenges on day twelve of the US. Open. Twenty twenty men semifinal day I'm Ben Rothenberg joined by. The always the finalists in my heart, not a first time finalist. The repeat finalist in my heart might -cation repeat nc our guest love him from the USDA per circuit primarily, and now he's doing used up in radio at the Grand Slam level, crushing it doing the first match today which I've seen better. But I'm sure haven't heard. I'm sure the call was fantastic. Mike Mike Welcome back to NPR how you doing. Ben. I just have to say it is really fitting for me to be. It's Merry Carrillo. Nick mccarville, and then I just sit here and I'm thinking what the Hell Do. I have to offer the people of no challenges remaining after I mean, let's face it Mary Carrillo's effing legend. I just sat there. Wrapped, listening to your conversation and then hearing you and nick and I both days true story both days I was listening to the podcast and the first person I saw that day was Mary Carillo and then Nick mccarville. So I think the first person I see tomorrow is going to be so that might be a positive start but no, I'm so excited to be here. It was a day today it was a day that had two matches. That is a we can agree on that. It was a data had to match you know more wheelchair matches or as a women's doubles final, which was actually better than the singles matches. But yet. So we are GonNa talk about these men matches we are to US Open finalists. They are Alexander Zverev and dominic team not surprising really wants joked with comes out of the draw that we get those finalists I think those who've been relatively calm picks. I was picking Medvedev to win this tournament at that point and to make the final out of the bottom half he lost in straight to two team and we have one in five over. Cranial BUSA. Let's get into these matches. These matches were not good. The first one the second one was okay. The second one was not good but it was fine. It was. Yes it was reasonable. reasonable. Goodies, there are some moments of especially the beginning really high level and some drama to scoreboard. Telling moments in that match, we're going to start with the first match though because the first match was awful and I say this with with love and as someone who wants the best for the sport and a lot of ways, some people complain about this mattress sometimes onto the people like you don't like tennis I was like, no, if I. If I said, this was a good match. I would have no credibility. This was not good for the state granted. Yes. They could both beat me at tennis. Yes. I know the obvious things we're going to say he has never tried to make it to my slam final. Whatever pressure things but this match with both of them playing Definitely Playing way below his abilities again, I vera for the second match Ro and winning in spite of that in a match where he started off really bad he was down six three five love and looked way out of it and I I never thought he was out of though because he was planning to go far he was playing so bad that you knew the second that he got anyone with them he could Kinda slingshot. Than career BUSA. Easiest, happen all the time in matches where somebody pushing women's tennis from against the first set, and then they come back and win because the other person it's harder to respond right when you've been cruising other guy raises his level to counter answer that would've played down to their level. It's tough anyway. So it's very comes back. From three six, love five down and win three, six, two, six, six, three, six, four, six, three it was a come from behind comeback at, but it wasn't really dramatic per se because it kind of shifted all at once slowly and then it was just one it was it was a u-turn it with one way traffic for for cranial and then one way traffic for very longer and I thought this match soft. I I'm all right. I'm not gonNA say that does it for this week's no challenges remaining look I. So I was calling it with Sophie Mark Woodforde, and there was a stretch of three straight breaks in the third set spare of broke first Carino booster brokeback. because. Very gifted him the break and then Zverev got the break right back and we all just kind of looked at each other and said I think that actually might be just about it. and. That being said very was down two sets to love at that point. But we all just kind of felt that unless of. Just, had gaffe after gaffe after gaffe in one of the sets it was his lose from that point on and I think you could actually say that before the match started, it was going to be on verbs racket throughout there's a reason that cranial booster is now five, thirty, one against the top ten he just he's he's very good and very good, but he just doesn't have. Without without counting the joke of its default also, he got one in one, nine, hundred on hard courts against the Ryan and I could sense that I was saying that during the match between the match like he didn't seem like he really believed he seemed like he was waiting for it all to fall apart and it Kinda did and this is any Krino I was picking actually I was started picking before the match show is so impressive spirit level. Responded couple of weeks like I think creates got this because I think I. Know He'll play tactically smart match and I can't say that about Sarah of after what I've seen from him and that was. The first hour minutes it was one hundred watch but it was at least like trainer doing the right things and then his level dropped and everything I find very remarkable for for reasons that I mean he's one six inches right that all your signed your whole Tacitus for minutes to win your matches, go on the court and he's doing that but he's doing it in this way. That's just so odd to me like I can't think of a grand slam run from a non accomplished player that it's like this. This scratchy I'm trying to think of what it's almost it's not even like it's like you know a top player we've seen you know federer twenty seventeen I'll shine up one a bunch of five centers to get there right or Serena. Twenty fifteen French Open you know she has her flu and she's playing through it and a lot of. Playing below her level but still sort of in this valiant way verify just Kinda dinking around and it's working for him and credit to him. He's in the final. He can very plausibly his first time here but I wanted somebody to step up in this in this moment of federal federal at all not being here and then joke going out the way he did and someone to step up really put on a show right and Sasha's vary of has not done that at all and I want the torch passed to be a little bit prettier than he still has a chance in the final two girl, but the resume to this point has been. Yeah. I'm I'm just down on it right now. Yeah I mean you you look at his path here I mean Kevin Anderson in the first round. That's that's a tough. That's not really difficult first-round auto came through that. Whole Tournament that I agree. Yeah. By random, Nakashima is going to be a top thirty player I think in a year or two and so that win a look more impressive in a couple years. Adrian. Manner Reno the Davidovich for Keenum match what you know to to one whatever. But Yeah I think there is. We can say all we want about the fact that yes, it looked horrific the last two matches for him the wins over George and today over colonial booster we can say that. But he did it. He accomplished something that frankly I don't know that he does the last couple of years at this level. We talk about all the time especially at the challenger level learning how to win with your be game. You're see game. When you're not playing at peak performance and he's done that here these last two days. So yeah, we can say how it is I don't think he gives a crap he got through and he's done some things this. That he wouldn't have done two years ago three years ago and I think there's a lot of credit that is due to four. That have you seen those videos where it's like they're polling ATP guys, eighteen media products or pulling guys unlike who's like the strongest Guy Tour? WHO's the hardest worker? WHO's the funniest ends Zverev picking himself. Like For strongest like for myself in there like that kind of belief like you can't buy that right and that goes along way when you don't realize how that's a huge power for an athlete and Sportsman Tennis, which is so much about not letting self-doubt creep in right when you can go out there and feel like you're the best on court even when you're objectively not. That's a huge thing and looking to draw draw that carefully until this moment actually got to say at least in the last couple of days. The trial was really friendly like after Anderson, which is the toughest match wasn't this term. So after Anderson full marks for beating Kevin Anderson in a very tough for sets then Nakashima who's good players who said, but not proven at this level yet invested five or slander. Oregon's the top ten guy malary. Know who was in the middle of being Guillotine essentially right. By the health authorities a little bit distracted than Davidovich which choice first time quarterfinalists slam and then public arena. BUSA in his second cy final and when you're giving Korean Yo a good shot against you and Like it's. I don't know again because I because I get deserve attention hype. It's not like this is some Rando making a slam final level. It's not like the draw fell apart and it's not because he's the guy who was always like he got next but that he's doing it in this way just have. Him Know It's beneath him kind of. And of being like this, you know savior of the generation that's coming and and I just worry that if if he if he plays like he did in these last two rounds and wins the tournament if he if that Tennis Somehow Beats Dom team who. Has. Gone. Dominant Teams Achilles Tendon whatever else gets going on. Yeah. Maybe things go badly for team in the final like that. It's just knocked the transition of power you want in the sport issues but and it's going to really. Discern being diminished I fear. I totally get that point but. He doesn't care. I don't know that I don't know that the players necessarily cared that much I think that might be a tennis twitter fan commentator thing like as much as we I don't think I'm very of cares that yeah. That wasn't really my point I just think that like from from a punditry level shirt like what does it mean when when someone win to slam but does it at this? Really you know crawling pace. Sure That being said I I do believe firmly in the idea of you know this I hate this cliche but I do believe it to be true fake it till you make it right like we talked about his we talk about his arrogance, his his arrogance is great in some ways. Terrible and others with the shirtless guy dancing on tables Cova. Whatever. But yet, he he believes he should be there I would say if he does win on Sunday. I will be interesting to see what the transformation is for him the with the real belief. Now, not just this fake belief but a real belief that he belongs in the final, every single Grand Slam or semi final or better every single Grand Slam does that make him The next guy to Kinda take over that mantle I found myself as I was preparing to talk to You ben like I'm looking at these draws myself and I'm just like. Okay we're talking about the next group right after these the big three go i. don't see anybody here. That is the transformational talent. That next, really, really great superstar. We've been blessed over the last fifteen years with three of the greatest. You know you can throw Indian there as well. Were of the greatest of all time. I don't see anybody here as I'm looking up and down this draw who's Befitting of joining that group or even coming close to that group, and that's fine. You know that's that's totally fine. But what happens if sphere of gets a grand slam and kind of has that moment in realizes what his capacity is I don't know it. It can be right. You can get. It's when it however you get it it's a really real Grand Slam and look at like. At she played better than Sarah honored to. This is not the best comparison but look like Elena Ostapenko came out of nowhere to win a French Open after that she started walking around like she was a slam champion because she was and she right away made a quarter-final Wimbledon, which is second. Best Slam result you know made final of Miami Semis Wimbledon the next year was a top five player lake. GRA- granted it's fallen off since then for her but know you can get something that you're maybe not prepared for it didn't quote unquote weren't next in line for it in desert, which are all bad words in sports a terrible word for a title because you win you win. But yet, that can motivate him and he? Does have the talent that if he takes us and processes that he can. You know convincingly win slams in the future. It's just said he hasn't been doing that and yes, it is a impressive that he's winning with his be game at generous with his legacy with A. Game at best I think generous probably to see minus game over competition. WHO's not the most robust? Let's be real with George not playing great shortage and an off day cranial Usta like this is not like wow especially compared to the second semifinal, which was much much better level. Yeah I, you know I. I just have a tough time reconciling it with his with how he's just if he wins tournament and he starts getting marketed it's like behold arch our hero has arrived like here is our tall skinny boy with amazing hair and the hair is not knowledgeable right? The hair is ninety percent of his appeal. I fully get that he's earned that that that takes work get that great but. You know it's it'll to me. I will say this. Kind of tweak this idea though I I've heard multiple people say you know kind of behind the scenes saying they don't think it's coincidence that it's happening with dad not around. That's interesting I and multiple people said that that. You know when I believe it was one Carlos. Ferrera when he was working with with Vera of I think that was one of the sticking points for him was that he said listen, we got kind of change the path and have you become become your own man. He's having this moment here where he is away from his family, his dad's specifically is a growing up a little bit here. You know and and kind of learning and not looking at his dad with that I mean, we got the sits pass thing was such a effing disaster that whole. Parental. Relationship is so. Fraught, flawed, and and fraught with just stress and anxiety, and maybe this is a that moment where he's kind of learning to become himself and relying on himself a little bit more. Again, I'm trying to put the Rosie shine on it here. I like I hadn't heard that discussed before talking I wear tournament and I cannot agree with that as you say that I think yes, I mean he's he's looking and all of them kind of mean, everyone's kind of doing a little bit on their own at this. You're not. You're not getting I think it's very. Reasonable crowd support. He would have definitely got against Korean Yo today. So I think. Yeah. I think that he doing without that and coming from within or whatever level that means with no parent there. Yeah. That's that's impressive for him and I said, he is impressive issues. The matches have not been that issue. It's that he's winning really really ugly when that's not the kind of player he is. It's not like it's not because he has a pretty game. Yes. His game is he plays pretty tennis right and so for him to like beginning getting through this in this in this clunky waves is. Again. It's impressive. Winning is winning and winning when you're not your best is you know big cliche have had to be a great champion but I, do WanNa. See you play your best at some point when when you're getting a slam final making a breakthrough at this turn, this is the first slam in you know eight months or whatever I wanted to look nicer. Than this and it's not going to You know maybe it will maybe playing someone like team who he doesn't think that he has to beat he's two and seven against him vital maybe that freezing up a little bit maybe plays more positive tennis because he's playing really you know not to lose kind of tennis tournament he played you out of tenants and it looks At all looks better especially. Yeah but. Anyway just not not digging it right now I'm. Just. SORTA leaves his Ark and where it leaves the sort of next Gen arc the young because he could have really been his. Even without covid telling saying he makes a final here. He wins the two, thousand, twenty US Open. If told us at two years ago. Yeah. Sure. That makes sense. Vera US Open Great. Sure. Yes. Same team. Just, the style not this way. Yeah. Right now and I do think it's Kinda matter. At least when when they're this clearly off the mark. Dominik team is mentioned previous several times. Routes is the final opponent here. One in straight-sets over Dino Medvedev match, there was only typing straight-sets compared to five sets only twenty seven minutes shorter. Right Arabs for five center. This was a much better match in terms of quality in terms competition. The never was opt in both the second and third sets lost it. Sorry it was up five two in the third and five three in the second. Right say that whole five three in second and then five two in the third. In Chronological Order of how it happened and he just Kinda blinked I think mostly in those situations and I was frustrating because I was ready for this go longer than she will think I was. But I like decisive sets that are being competitively played. So I was fine with it. Yeah. The team team hung on and seemed a little bit surprised to have one in Straits afterwards or he just seemed like. He was talking about being nervous and tie breaks and stuff I think he was a little surprised I duNNo. If he tries to win, he might have been surprised to in because I a lot of people were picking Medvedev match but I think he was surprised that it came came in Straits with how that match was feeling on court I think there was a little. A bit that sheepish nece in the victory for him. But obviously, he backs himself and he's played a very solid hermit. He's gotten on Mike Verify. Really good style points for team throughout agrees his matches winning and he's not set one set and that was to Chile. WHO's a former right up in the last guy to be the first time slam champ we've mentioned that but team is the first new meant jeff in six years. Essence marriage illitch you look at the path taking out the first couple rounds Ngong mooner Chile which it's Felix it's DNR and Medvedev. Those are all players who again once you take. Novak of the draw I mean those are all guys that if they're into quarterfinals semifinals every single one of those guys you're like yeah. Okay. Semifinal, capable players in a draw like this. So yeah to for him to do it and the way he did it. I we actually kind of. I know I felt like team was being underappreciated coming into the straw I said it after I think the second or third round I was looking at. Kenan and team nobody was talking about either one of them at the moment and I just found him professional getting the job done a wearing his mask incorrectly, that's a different story but just he just took care of business. This feels like a very professional dominic team right now who's just I've been here I know I can be here every time. I, know what I have to do energy wise I know. What I have to preparation-wise everything is in place for him to be the next guy to take that next step, the three players who really impress me in this field. An honorable mention in this top three is about to come up to cranial booster. I think did the solid tournament? Yes. Given a huge huge gift with the default obviously from despite the fact that you clearly hate him and then people say. That but I. Really I really do not just twenty seventeen run was the. Draw right. But. Anyway. Three MVP from his term were team never been rube love. I. Thought they were the three who really kind of stood out and we're like, okay, you're playing tennis win a slam here and then Ruben method of obviously play each other and have one and then and Bertini actually wasn't bad either Bertini I. Agree another mention who lost the rule book fourth round. So love and Medvedev and the team. So it was kind of happened on the bottom half yet team. You're right this is a business like performance or I feel like he's come in. None of these guys know they can win a slam never done it before. He's the one who looks like he's really taking care of business and I will say I think maybe part of the reason he's under the radar, which is maybe recently bias in the wrong way he got so smoked in that Cincinnati match against. CRANACH. Like right to or two in one or something like that. Right and I think I want to say he's played every match on Ash I believe team I think. I think I remember the moon are was, but the other one's definitely were on ash. That's what I'm concerned about. So at least. On ash and so that's a slower court and I think that has helped him and that has. Proven very helpful for him especially against Medvedeva maybe I don't know because the because method of. Getting a lot of depth on his shots tonight I kept wasn't he hit very few groundstroke winners I. Think let me look I think this handy yet eight forehand winners and Four backing winners tonight in in three long sets and so just. I don't know I mean obviously, team is saying way back and it's heart is making you. Not Pass but I thought that Medvedev got a little bit too. Yeah. I. It just wasn't inevitable losing the short points and we as long as they didn't do good enough job it kind of mixing it up and making team really do a lot of fancy footwork. Yes anymore I completely agree and I. I. Find Myself Thinking I didn't see from the angles. To Test Movement I didn't see the depth that was necessary and he plays that type of style that requires those two things in particular and and I was a little bit disappointed and disheartened to see that because again I think after seeing last year's run through the the summer. Right just you just kind of expected this something something magic. An Orthodox I actually had a former player texted me and said nobody actually really likes to watch deal Medvedev, right but I I just like, yeah. But but what he's doing I, the players, the players all F in respect the crap out of him for doing something completely different and he's Coming up with these shots from so far behind the baseline and when he doesn't have it though something like this can happen. I mean that's the thing is if it's so high risk playing where he does the way he does when he's off, this is what happens and it's not. The, the better players are going to be able to exploit that, and he had his moments of adjusting earlier in both sets. He went up four one and quick quick three eleven and four one, five two in the third and was up a break midway early midway through that second set also and the ad just kind of just like lettuce foot off the gas a little bit didn't have that sort of like. That edge to him. He just he just kind of backed off a little bit. I was I would we're waiting for his press conference recording when being like twenty minutes late and bailed because I'm not waiting around for losers that long but Oh my God. But he and I just wanted to hear him say like did I did I did I pull back? That's what Serena set against as a yesterday though it's interesting just. Kind of like my foot off the gas liba three and also went off to a longer term more macro flying starting that match, and then it had one kind of pivot. This was to mid set pivots in this match with team. But yeah, kind of felt the same way I wonder if he would say, didn't quite squash when I had some chance because he had every chance to be up two to one tonight Medvedev and instead he lost. Let me ask let me ask you this question 'cause. I. Did Vico Serena match which was second match yesterday after. Brady no Sokha. Those were to incredibly high quality matches especially that first semifinal yesterday I don't I don't know that it was going to be possible today for either of these two men's matches to really match up with the what we saw yesterday in the women's semifinals. But God it really made it feel like it was much more drastically worse for me. Do you know what I mean like you see that quality yesterday on a day where we're celebrating the original nine, the drama of those two matches, and then you have this this clunker between cranial boost and spirit of it just it felt so much worse again, like we could be, we could be celebrating the fact that it's of his done something he never has and how he did it is gritty determined it Cetera instead, you know we're talking about no style points this man changing of the guard and has just like. Because we to greatness the day before. I don't like the a word that you get when you hit shift and then eight on your keyboard I don't like that as A. Look looking your keyboard read but but these, this is a good enough final two top ten players I think we'll be okay. I I. Wish. I. Wish One of the Joke Mitch I really do joke green here. I. Think gave this tournament such more. Credibility but credibility it is. Slamming feel like having the big here and the way Jovovich took himself out and you know fair enough neither of these guys you know 'cause the line judge vitamin to collapse on the ground gasping for air. Points for that but that's not usually where the bar is and so I I just I. I look forward to whoever wins. I look forward to their second slam. I think being they both can get it. But this first one is just a little bit. It's arriving table pretty tepid. I feel that both of these guys I think you who was who was it that Alex Griffin said was going to have ten slams. He's ten out of thirteen slams or something and I said, well, what we're going to slow down ski right I find I, find both of these guys. Five to seven slams I think is very well within the discussion range over the next several years I think that's perfectly reasonable to frankly expect from both of them with their talent. I think it's just. So this is just one of them. If we're going to look big picture, right, it's just going to be the first of say five for five, her team and and yeah, we'll look back and say it was such a unique tournament the way it occurred the bubble. Novak going out the way he did but ultimately, I think it will of cement for one of these guys more so Zverev if he wins just the idea that they are worthy, they are a grand slam champion capable of doing this tournament in tournament out and see what becomes of them after that and I think that's just kind of the way I'm looking at the final on Sunday and look team turns in a comprehensive whenever Zverev I. Think like he did everything, he could possibly be affected tournament, right? He beat Medvedev Insurance, and then in this scenario he beats. In comfortable way to like there's no knocking that that's like that's a very reasonable last two to be beating to be blowing away. You know you're Felix is in your Alex. Demon. Ours along the way to that's totally credible. It's not. It's feels more like a masters title or a strong five hundred dramas, but it's it's a slam and he's made three before and is all teams enrolled and again in a very resume to both of these guys have resume. It's just like it's that the. Again, stop wants to preserve I, cannot get over unimpressive he's Ben and. and. That's fine and you know not all tournaments about someone having the one shining moment you know beautiful thing I'm sure especially challengers sure you've is absolutely grind things out the wound up being very important win for them in their career in terms of within a match or within a tournament light hundred percent always have to be beautiful. You know ready to be you know with the the food photographer there from. New York Times cooking sections sometimes it just something you can quickly shovel in your mouth before no one sees you. And to get you through and. Maybe, we should just be fine with that I and that's the thing I'm trying to keep it all in perspective I mean again, I don't think is going to have nearly the same. Arguments that you and I are having here about what it means to to have style points to win his first slam. He's done something in unique time and place that nobody else has. Let them have the moment I meant to say this earlier but I wanNA queue up. Yes. He did and only song. I think I'm GONNA play here his for the end of his first answer on being in his first Cranston final but I'm looking forward to it and. You know I'm going to find a grand slam the the two best players in the world are going to be playing court. And again, like that, he thinks that these are the two best players in the world like. Again. He's feel as as as drag queens say he's feeling the fantasy. You know he leaves it. It's real to him and that's good. You know I appreciate that about him it's it's I. I. could be taken their kind of kind of, but not fully but I I I'm. I'm happy for him. I'm happy that he's happy. I I can appreciate. In the abstract, the idea of other people have in grade team for reasons that are unclear and again he wanted six matches at a Grand Slam. So He's objectively great tennis. I feel like you're the one who's trying to talk yourself through it more than anybody else you're Ben. You know I've just twelve daily shows. Overdue for a break down some kind of glad you're here. That's what I. That's what I do. You should hear my podcast with no Ruben do all the time I haven't played that yet behind the racket podcasts. No Ruben Noah finally got NCRI. Now he's been hankering to I know. that was good. I've seen a lot of Noah on our matchpoints shows lately. So glad to have him. As and you as well. How has your? Bubble, time, Ben we obviously we met. We had marry a nick on last couple of days. We had Blair Henley on before it was more about bubble life. But for you, what is this whole experience been like for you being partisan whichever direction won't take this very open ended question some of yeah. When a US Open experience personally. Let me just say that from the my perspective and Mary talked about it. So well so did nick did Blair. Just talking about some of the INS and outs the basic daily things. I think for me from my broadcast perspective idea. First Day I was working with Zina Garrison. And I I mean what an honor right incredible human being there and She said at one point she she couldn't. She was struggling a little bit because there's no crowd noise. We broadcasters try to kind of elevate with the crowd. You know with the play and all that and for me this was just like home. This was this was me at a challenger with more money and more points. Better known players. Yes sure absolutely but I felt so comfortable broadcasting this tournament. It was drastically different for me thinking back to where I was even last year at this this particular slam or even the Australian Open because I was just like there's no crowd i. this is what I do all the time. Okay. There's no crowd I can make up the energy myself. I'll do this I've got it and I think all the broadcasters would probably say, yeah, it took a couple of days to adjust to that side the fact that yeah, you you don't elevate your noise when the crowd elevates their noise because there's no crowd. In terms of the INS and outs been I think Nick said it is well, I wasn't as necessarily a great job with the crowd noise with you guys with you yesterday but bringing bringing his own audio that was Gosh I. It's much weirder much more uncomfortable outside the arena you get down there it's raw. That's challenge tennis down there I. Mean That's Rough Mano, a Mano whatever you WanNa Call it for everything you've got that's tennis right there. It's outside when you have this these grounds where there are. Forty fifty thousand people milling about and none of them are there. That's the parts is really effing weird to be able to go. skews my way. I'M GONNA get into this, but to be able to go into one of the bathrooms. Between four and five, and there's nobody there in a row of like twenty five urinals and toilets and there's nobody there. It's like what is this? It feels like the walking dead in that lifting yeah. Yes. But yeah you you get into the tennis side I know I'll never have the opportunity as I have tomorrow I'm not on the call for the women's singles final tomorrow I'm going to be able to sit like third row for women's singles final at the US Open Holy Crap. So yeah, they're they're you know bubble life's hard. You don't get a lot of freedom. You don't have the ability to really interact. That's fine. We're. All everybody around the world is dealing with this in some way shape or form right now with this pandemic but I know that I am incredibly blessed and I don't use that word lightly you know me I don't use that word lightly. I feel. So blessed to be able did tonight to watch you know a good chunk of that second semifinals to watch the women's final tomorrow. From that type of venue that intimate setting. And I know I'm lucky and I'm just gonNA treat it as such it. It is really been fun in that regard and more than anything. What I've noticed is that so much of so many of us excuse me you know Youtube and have been unable to work and. For. Most of us are work involves traveling and interacting with this traveling group of clowns that go around the world or the US to all these venues. We haven't seen each other like you are one of my friends that I get to see you know on occasions and frankly noah to I seen once in the last six months and nick mccarville all of us have just like had these. Moments of just catch up where it's just like we get to tell our story to somebody who hasn't seen us in six months and we get to hear their ears and their experiences over the last six months and it has been so heartening to get to talk to Blair to get to talk to nick I, had a moment the other night getting to talk to Ted Robinson and we're. Ted Robinson and I think that's the thing is. Yes it's hard. Yes. It's weird. It's not perfect. But God, we got an opportunity again to see all these people that we love and admire and respect greatly for their tennis prowess on the cord. So I'm just GonNa take it as this weird experience that I have. Absolutely. For about ninety nine percent of it. Absolutely loved. No I said Nick and I'll repeat it with you like I. Am Jealous that you get to be there. This is such a an I'm hoping we don't get too many pandemic slams I'm hoping that the. Eb Soon enough God knows what the French Open is going to be I. Keep saying the show keep dropping. French Open worries. Worries and granted I was asking US Open to and isn't that went better than I expected on a lot of levels definitely the tennis better Yup and Save Sasha Sheriff but the rest of it was all like really impressive level and I, am impressed by this portends for being this kind resilient in terms of the players in terms of organization that I didn't think match there was still risks and they got lucky a lot of senses I don't sure I'm not gonNA say they didn't but. They did the thing in this we're at the finish line pretty much so good for them. We already had to double trophy ceremony. Sure. It's been handed out. We're good we're. Yeah I. I. Would Love to have been there and I'm glad that you gave to see people I do miss people to I. Miss I haven't seen. This is long gone without seeing courtney in a very yes. Signed without seeing lots of other people ream Toumani people were part. Yeah. Sure. SORTA traveling circus and we would have been together in Gosh in India wells at a flight the next day I was going into wells and then Charleston maybe Rome definitely Rome usually than Paris. Other so and then US Open Cincinnati Washington. Yeah. So I look forward whenever it gets back to to novels I don't I don't just need sports back to be a freelance writer, a surplus of sports. And some level and I'm happy that the Times has has done a lot of coverage on the open I wasn't sure. Yes. Honestly. How much we are. Come out I was like, will this be enough work to justify you know not getting a job at you know door dash right now I'm saying but it but it did this did work out a couple of weeks in the Patriot backers while thank in a moment have been massive on this in terms of holding a over during this time. So yeah. So yeah, I'm glad I'M Glad you're back in the saddle. Glad to hear your voice again on these things and I hope to hear a lot more of it. Do you know what the what your schedule's like post us open or any of error any challenges lined up for you or you do other things or what? What is your future looks like after? Yeah I don't have anything set at this point I appreciate you asking about the challenges because I get that question a lot I what I can and do feel comfortable telling you and the NCAA our family is that I do know that the US pro circuit is working really hard. To try and get some US challengers and it fs for on the women's side. They're not technically called challenges but some some of that those sixty and eighty K. events four players, not only just in north. America south. America the biggest issue. I have right now and I know that we have to work top down here. Right. We have to make sure that the slams are running because it kind of moves the whole industry within tennis but then. For me what? Always is so important about tennis and what I think makes it so unique is it's all about opportunity, right? You're always in control of your own destiny. You can win and you get to move up and you get to compete at the highest levels. This is the first time that I've been involved in tennis where that's not true. We don't have the ability for the South Americans really be playing too many places. Australians? Are Having to go to Europe for two three plus to be able to compete the challenges right now as they are in Europe are the toughest challenges we ever had because the cuts right now are one, sixty, eight, one, seventy, four, normally. With two three challengers week, you have cuts that are three, fifty, almost fifty kind of cut right it's so hard and right now players who are say below that 175, there's no chance for them to move up. You're talking about players who were on the verge of having a breakthrough and are thinking about, okay. How do I get into Australian Open qualities at the end of the year? So I can make that big jump and they don't have a place to play right now unless they're going to go to the fifteen k level and try to make twelve points in a week and it's I know the USDA pro circuit is working there asked off right now to try and make it happen. They won't be cavalier with safety. That's one thing. I'm a hundred percent positive about they're not gonNA just say we're gonNA take our chance see if we can make it happen. They're not ever going to do that Europe third. They feel a little bit more comfortable doing that I don't know that I necessarily believe in that. But I also know that we need to find ways to make sure that there is opportunity for players at all levels to move up or down if they're they're not of quality. Knows right and that's also a thing with the way. The ranking system changed pointing a longer guys aren't going to move down if you knew they stopped winning and so that's like that's a protection that lower guys are not going to be throw the. Yeah. That's GonNa Right Heart in the ceiling allied trying to bring us not having qualities us open which I fully. Agree with that decision one, hundred percent but not makes it tougher to have those moments they're going to quality the French Open? It's the plan. Yes. We'll see you can get over there for that and yeah, it's tough. I mean we talk with this on the show in April I want to say pretty early in core. Did you hear back is who who have decided to walk away from the sport because if you yeah yeah and I, I won't say their names because I kind of want them to have their moment if they want to decide to come back or or not. I. Think can count at least six who I've I've either talked to directly or I've been told that they're not gonNA come back. I mean you. I know I know the casual fan will say somebody WHO's say? Three fifty in the world doesn't matter if they retire not. Maybe not to the grand ecosystem of the sport, but again to do it because there's not the opportunity, that's the part that I get frustrated about I. Yeah. They don't matter to the grand ecosystem. They're not ever going to be top ten or top twenty in the world but. Opportunity is what makes tennis so fantastic that. Sasha's various be playing like shit through the entire Grand Slam and have the opportunity to win his first Grand Slam, I, mean, that's the thing. That's what makes tennis so unique. So fantastic it's you against another human being you've got the opportunity on that day to get it done. No matter how it looks. And when that's not there I get upset and I that's why I'm just like. Sasha. Do your thing. That's thing. We didn't really get the Real Cinderella stories at this open like I thought. I thought we might have had something really weird happen here and even not that we've been really weird but even like Gen Brady and the final would have been getting closer to that someone who Okay I'm. GonNa. Disagree not she's not a Cinderella. She's not. She would not be not about not about. Toronto but BARRANCO story that was right head probably gotten a little one round further. Maybe. Yeah. But she already you're right you're right a good pick. But well, about slams you go to Roehampton on Day wanner to using the pulse on day one and you see some players who sometimes tennis is not always amazing quality up those matches nervous. Obviously a lot of them have been there before and some of it can be really really good but you look at them and you're like, wow, you are actually ten wins from winning Wimbledon. Like yeah. You gotTa have an amazing three weeks and win Wimbledon like Marcus don't get them. Yes markets Willis exactly. It's a great example of that. As much as he's done nothing with his post women. On any level? Markets will absolutely cartman still can we just say I, didn't really think I forgotten. He beat. Medvedev. In that tournament molly around qualifying he'd be met Rube live he beat. Rube live in the first round of qualities. And he beats blankets he'd be brackets and maindraw first-round right, and he also famously beat in the in the snickers match with the the RC Cola, he beat ten grams two-time Australian for quarter-finalists some real people old. Fat. Marcus Willis say with love as a fat person also like. It was inspiring the perspiring. So yes but that's that's that is the perfect story right to. It that's the guy took advantage of the opportunity that was presented to him and used it and yeah, you're right. We did an extreme example. But yeah sure. But we didn't other than Toronto didn't really have that that Cinderella story going from two hundred in the world because the qualify qualifiers weren't there. We had I mean Francis coming through especially on the men's side you say Jordan Thompson reaching the Fourth Round Davidovich Kina. But yeah, we didn't have just that one breakthrough to to get there I mean everybody in the quarter-finals you could say, okay I can. Christening none of the guys I do this charge update every slam about WHO's made their first Grand Slam semifinal. No first time silence on the men's side. That's relatively rare recent times and it's in with three people make their second. Radio of and method of all only in their second grants I'm starting final, but they've all been there at least once before. Hand Yeah. So anyway, it's It's results. Wise events from has not been the most exciting or storybook or anything the men the women's has been I, think much better looking for the women's final lot more see that honestly. As an should be great and look forward to that tomorrow and look forward to every time I. Get to see you Mike. We'll hopefully have to reconvene sometime soon. Are you getting chances to play poker while you're in the mobile not online online I mean online poker? No, I have not played. I've been here because I've again tried to watch as much tennis as I could on top of it. The first. Five days. I watched as many guys who I have quote unquote come up with. Guys who I started covering and Broadcasting Twenty, thirteen, two, thousand, fourteen, fifteen they were in doubles I was on court twelve. If they were in singles, I was on court three you know I was at every single magic possibly get to supporting guys who I've come up with and just more. So I can see them. Say Hello, your wish them the best and so I've watched so much tennis I won't need to watch the French Open like I've watched so much tennis over this fortnight, which is which is great and poker begins again next week I think the Rome, draw comes out in like less than twenty four hours we're getting fighting draws out. Yeah. We're getting like break like it's your day in Rome is already starting to it s going to be tough. That's tough to process injuries. Who God and at Rome as I said, it's a big picture my year usually it's. Definitely care about I don't they're allowing media inside this year anyway. Can I make a new rule? Yeah. If you are on. If I saw this as a coach of a prominent player, the other day before they went over to room. Out on social media, taking photos with people know social distance no mask. If you're doing that right before you go into a quote unquote bubble. You don't get to go in the bubble. Like if you're I'm sorry don't do it. Don't do IT I. I think I mentioned some other show seeing folks like six pasta I think he's already in Europe on Clay I. Think he's GonNa play Rome you know gallivanting around New York City with questionable mask usage after again eliminated this idea that I think people had that like, Oh, you can just have the bubble telephoto from one bubble to another like no that's not happening and they're not even trying their best at other. And enjoying the city which okay fair enough if you wanted to that no one's stopping you. But that's not in the spirit of the bubble if nothing else and it shouldn't be in the law that either and this is why tennis as a traveling tour like needed to promote something that was not a traveling tour during pandemic just like the fact that Rome is in different. Locations in Paris this year ridiculous like Cincinnati. Did that that was a problem starting to tell you that was great into more of that. I wish that Washington had gotten on board early enough. They could be added another to the bubble tea or something like that. Also didn't work out that way for them but that would have been a great solution. One thing you mentioned. One thing I didn't talk about on the show very briefly American guys, right? Yeah. KIND OF PEOPLE Most. Yeah. Most come up through the USO fruit. A pro circuit in various times, American tournament Ozzy Semis Shopping Rogers, making quarters of history and its own story The men did not the men had a bad tournament. I think by their standards during this was supposed to be a huge chance for regional guys to more to get in to more of them to play and granted. There weren't as many men's withdrawals from the field day for the women. So fewer men got in and there's a fewer good American men in terms of the rankings compared to the women but only one of the making fourth Francis and he got really handled in that fourth round by amendment of Fritz lost a tough one. That's the one that that hurts ship. Yeah. Yeah. I mean don't get me wrong I. Mean Dennis also didn't Biko. Fan Right afterwards. Well done but. Fritz serving for that one in the fourth set that that was the one that I thought like if you give me say, let's just let's say the four Americans in Francis Tommy Paul Riley Oh Palca and Taylor Fritz those four young Americans. If you give me say two of them into the fourth round I consider that a good good tournament for the next Gen of American men unfortunately only got one. I couldn't. I didn't get to see Riley's match I. Know he was bothered by injury. So I don't know that he was a one hundred percent off in first round. That's rough. That's a tough draw. Cressey had a good tournament. He'd second round, but he played played played. It's tough enough a second round. He did okay I played Tommy play. Grigor. Dmitrov again in the first round I mean that's a tough draw it's. Yeah I. Think it felt to me Ben like. Especially for Tommy, he's a guy who needs some tournaments and to then get you give him A. Lawsuit, Nicole to you know in in the first round and he gets through that maybe he gets on a roll, but I also need to say Escobedo gets his first Grand Slam Win Markowski ron gets his first Grand Slam win. It doesn't move the needle necessarily, but again, it's something. A Third Round Yeah for sure. There was two sets in a break on Chile. I think he's served. I was there for the entirety of that match. I watch matched action. The show was actually pretty good and and. Loving the fast low courts until. I thought Cougar had a real shot had continued with beating team I thought I thought was interesting draw as it shaped but Anyway that's your American. Recap. I think. Some of these guys maybe haven't played a lot of matches I think is what the way I'd put it. You know they they didn't have the high profile tournaments other than world team tennis here in the US and Riley didn't play it. Tommy. Played did he played? No I don't think he played it. All Francis. Had covid tell. Play. Okay so so I I don't know you know. Maybe that's maybe that's the reason but. As, I think it'll be a time where we see start seeing a couple of those guys each time in the fourth round rather quickly. Do you think last thing to bring it back to where we started sort of with this coming up. Once we get a new champ right and the floodgates will the floodgates open right? Will it be like people start seeing a team of you're shaking your head? I say no. Immediately just because of the fact I think we might see. I think because Novak still there that I just don't I mean. I think Novak's Novak you. You take out that I still think he's a favorite to win this tournament right and I think everybody feels the same Rafa Still Rafa. At this point, I don't know what feds GonNa look like after this latest surgery who knows So I think you'll start to see more of them in the finals I. Don't know necessarily that you're gonNA see more of them winning for the next two years past thirty, three, thirty, four for Novak anybody's guest how his body holds up. Same for Rafa. At this point to. Go well, my floodgates of love and affection for you my own. just absolutely gushing. I miss you desperately I have been heartened to have you and Sometimes Courtney In the mornings every day to kind of promote unusual railway isn't that Nice isn't it? This is my fourth time on NCR. Grand Total of appearances by Courtney during those four times is a goose egg. Yeah. It'll change at some point maybe. But again, I've said it multiple times courtney gave me the best piece of broadcasting advice of all time and some would like. The day it was I was actually with you too. I was asking her for pronunciation of somebody that. Caroline Wozniacki was playing the first match. I ever did at the Australian Open on the world feed. And I was freaking out because it was my first time ever being on a world view of a Grand Slam she said Mike. Tennis's tennis man. Like you know tennis tennis is tennis and I was just like. Yes, tennis YEP okay. I'm good and I just went up and had fun and I was and what you do is so much tougher i. hope you know because like you do stuff with guys who are there's not already a book on these guys. Sure I once got once very briefly like guest at I didn't get wasn't a job then I didn't get paid for it but like did like one set of Australia world feed during qualities once he got and they would I think I was by myself and it put me on a match was on show court three. Between Blake Motte, and Lopez Perez Oh. Yeah. Not only had I not seen. Heard of either of them at this point on this match and it was really hard I can talk. About, what I see my pick up the first you know ten minutes I was there I think it only lasts it thirty minutes and they probably got yanked me off. They're pretty quickly mercifully for everyone evolves and I'll twenty people listening but you know it was it's hard. You know I can sort of tell stories or anecdotes about your in the final that with soccer as ranked until the cows come home but due in a first round match between looking at the draw here Mitchell Krueger Pedro Sosa. I would struggle with that might at least have had half of that down Pat I knew. He on his I s Jason All I wanted was I just wanted the one match. I wanted that I didn't get here. Ben Was the tennis nerd matchup of Brandon Nakashima and Paolo Lorenzi I really wanted more than anything in life to be calling that match I didn't get it and that's going to haunt me forever that I didn't get to call the mad dog Paulo Rienzie and Brandon be neck who is somehow besties with Genie Bouchard now, from World Team Tennis, which is again weird weird stuff makes friends. Anyway we'll leave it there Mike. Thank you very much. You're welcome Ben Miss you lot missy lot. Thanks again by. Gosh. Thank you so much to my -cation for being on NCR thank you all. You're listening through twelve days of these shows what we started on Day Zero Thirteenth US Open Episode Fourteen if you count the draw show, it's been a lot of us open coverage spent a lot of fun to do. I've had a lot of fun doing it hoping the you've had just as much fun listening and hopefully getting more sleep I. Am lately because I'm staying up relate to post these things after the day's play keeps ending late. But yet, thank you guys someone's listening in for your support of the show in many ways especially on Patriot where we continue to have people role in with their support, we have one new backer I believe to report today. Yes one new backers since our last show and that is Jay Chin dusting. So thanks Jason Dusting for your support and also thank you to all of you have supported us previously any level and especially to our Patriots Slam Champ Akers we think every show. 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For Once We Do Have The Bandwidth

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For Once We Do Have The Bandwidth

"But I don't I really don't have any regrets really don't I've I've lived exactly how wanted to. I've tried my hardest every single time. I didn't win the matches that maybe I should have always aligned or but I really gave them all so that really is hello. Everybody welcome back to the body serve. I'm Jonathan and I'm James this episode one ninety-one it's the part two of the TBS rewind that we promised you. We hope you enjoyed the levity that we attempted to bring your way last episode yet because now here's the gravity okay like the connection. Yeah sure yet didn't you take the sat's while technically correct? I suppose it wouldn't be the word I would go with. No I mean. We separated this rewind episode into two parts and the second one is some of our a little more conscious efforts. I guess it's not like a boys me type situation you know. We're not trying to bring the mood down on this one. The idea behind these two episodes was to give folks if they hadn't listened to the body surf for a long time to give them idea of what the show is about and so we often have laughs on the show. We brought those last week. And then this week we're going to talk about or highlight some of the more socially conscious stuff that we do on the show and hopefully there are still plenty of laughs in the more dramatic. Sections of the PODCAST. John I mean we're still funny. I think so. That is entirely subjective. You'll see I think from listening to some of it. A lot of cockiness in spots. I'll be curious to hear what what these conversations feel like. With a little bit of perspective you know if they still feel as important or substantive there was something you said on the last episode that listening back ahead of this episode. There was something that you weren't necessarily proud of. We'll get there. Yeah I still don't know what it is. Okay back on episode one hundred. I guess we had solicited questions from listeners. And one of the questions was what is the theme of the PODCAST. And I guess that's a good way to get this show going. So let's let's revisit that. What's the theme of the PODCAST? Asks Anamar soon and I think when she asked this question. I don't think she meant meant it in such a broad meadow way which is how. I want to treat it. I think she meant what is the theme of the next episode. Oh I I read like you right so but I think it's a opportunity to kind of reiterate who we are and what we do and and what. We hope we bring to the table. That makes us different than others. You WanNa take a crack at that. Whoa this podcast is unique. I think in that it's US right. The first and foremost there's that we bring to the table awful so arrogant for better or worse. That's what makes us different from a lot of other podcasts. More ten years of built chemistry in private life and under a shared histories with tennis as well as fans. Yes you know. It's it's unique but also I think that we come at it through a lens of intersectional. Feminism Yeah Yeah. And then it branches off into many other things in terms of how we look at uncovered tennis. I think if you want the scores and he wants great tennis analysis from you know tactical standpoint. There're podcast they do that really well. And that's just never going to be us. The only time we did that was this year at the French Open. We did a fairly good job. I would say in breaking down. What Rafa didn't well technically right so for me? What I'm interested in and what I hope comes across on. The podcast is broader issues that sort of float above and through tenants. Because we both believe that sport is political. The personal is political. These things are inescapably intertwined and that sport brings up a lot of thorny and ugly and complex issues like racism and sexism. And Mama Phobia Right. Which we're going to talk about a bit later but to me looking at sport just as backhands and forehands and points in who won is boring. But it's also incomplete. How is that? I think that about covers it all right. That was fourteen one hundred. Is there anything you want to add or subtract from that summation of what the body serve is? No I think about covered it. Do you want out anything no I? It's really hard to describe what you do in an elevator pitch right. I found that when I was writing a thesis in Grad School. It was very difficult to give someone like the twenty second. Pitch of what your research is about. So I think if you've been listening to the show you know what we're about and you have probably decided if you like us don't at this point at that time. I don't think we have done any of our standalone episodes so that would be different and an addition to the the output. But just still through the same lens really. I think I like how you said. What sets US apart is that we are uh us which sounded obvious but there is something very intimate about listening to a podcast right. I find that listening to other people's podcasts. Sometimes you just click with one and other times. Something just turns you off. It can be difficult to to explain why drawn to this format and sometimes it's about the timbre someone's voice about their rhythm their personality. It's so personal. Sometimes you enjoy how sadistic one host is to the other. How much they press them right. If you're into that you probably like this show but I mean I don't really listen to podcasts. So I don't really know what we did a whole episode back in two thousand fifteen in our first season about Andy Murray and why feminism matters. And we're going to revisit that because it it still timely anyway. Let's just play this clip and then we'll talk about it afterwards. Andy Murray has not been given this label as being a feminist. He's even claimed it in some way for himself. We'll get to that more later. But in what ways would you say? He has shown himself to be a feminist. Okay I would say what. He's been a little reluctant to accept the word And has gotten easier for him recently. You know but I think Andy Murray has shown himself to be a feminist or kind of a champion of women in that he goes out of his way to sort of big up women's sports. Big Up you know what I mean. He's gone to bat from RESMO. Many times unsolicited was the Australian Open. Where they are so he played very well and he goes after the matches. On-court played very well. Today's like you just want to say that. You know I'm having a great time and Emily. Marasmus a wonderful coach and she's doing a really great job. And you know this shows that women can coaches you. Know like y'all are bunch of motherfuckers for thinking otherwise and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. So he's taking every opportunity to to hit the nail on the head. You know right I think it's interesting that he that there was a lot of conflict within his camp over her appointment and he kind of dismissed the people who questioned him yes in that Red Bulletin magazine piece. That came out a few weeks ago. That was the most interesting part for me because there was speculation. As to why Donna Verdoux had left his team and went to work for burdette quite and it was pretty much had they had a disagreement. Marasmus and Andy said yellow. That's that he made it a lot. More clear yes because before. We weren't sure exactly how they left things. We just heard that they were on good terms and that that may be true probably seems that the main disagreement was about his appointment. Her appointment will write his appointment of Mauresmo. Okay Gotcha so which is pretty ballsy for having been with velvet for so long yes Another thing is that he's talked a lot about how his mother has been such an important figure in his life and in his tennis. Life as well you know. She was coach when they were kids. And then you accompany that with him saying that one of the major things that he was excited to have with his relationship with resumes the fact that she listened to him right. You know something as simple as that Which is just brilliant. Who Doesn't want to be listened to write? It was and he also mentioned you know having so many men around and everyone giving their opinion so freely it becomes a little overwhelming. You know and that he felt a bit overwhelmed by the Michio of it right and part of which was his own. I'm sure yes. And he's said that he's really comfortable opening up to the women in his life that it's easier his wife his coach and his mother. Yeah Now we should mention that. Having a strong dominant mother figure doesn't necessarily make some one progressive. No as far as gender goes you know because a lot of times these morphs into this whole like I have sisters and I was raised by my mother and you know I have so many strong women that I feel. I need to protect your no. The there's a difference between chivalry and feminism absolutely attendance. Example is Jimmy. Connors had kind of the most famous his mom. They were very close and she was an accomplished player herself but that didn't necessarily make him a feminist and we've seen that in his dealings with Chris Ever. I think very clearly you know it's I don't like to make pronouncements about what a feminist should be but a feminist should not talk about someone's alleged abortion and blame that for the end of your relationship. That's you know snuggle. Famous public figure public figure trying to humiliate or like that especially when it was so long after the fact almost forty years and there were so young. It's a fun different with the sell books. You know anyway. Those a side note yet. So Murray's decision is important and I WANNA talk about why in the context of sport that appointing a women's coach a woman as a coach is very important. One of the main ways. It's important is because women have such little access to space in sports and culture whether it be on TV. You have the sideline reporters who were there to sell their bodies. Will we have very little very few spaces in kind of administration the executives the coaches and you have also very little space on TV. As female athletes right Serena Williams could win the Grand Slam ten years in a row. Forty majors in a row and a fucking horse or quarterback you know has one great game and their athletes of the year. If you have a joint male female category united she might get thirty seconds sports. Yes maybe maybe if. There's not a hockey game that day. You know and so it starts from a very young age is starts from youth sport really but you know these are the the indicators that we get from society from very young ages adolescence that being a woman or a girl is less than being a man right there unmistakable. And there's this thing I'd play. That is kind of like the Victorian ideal of womanhood. That still persist that you know. Women are delicate. Their bodies are fragile and they need to be getting off the court. She's broken a sweat right. That women need to be protected by men. Yes but then the earth and also preserved four men off course and so there's first of all there's a lot of criticism about women's bodies when they become too athletics but that's not attractive with they look like men And on the other side of that. There's well she's a great athlete but she could never beat so. And so you know Serena Williams as the best woman tennis player but she couldn't be the top one thousand male tennis players. How many times have you seen an internet? Comment on some Serena article that says you know who is A. She could barely even win a set from the player ranked two hundred fifty right. Like she's not great as if these women are playing on like public high school courts You know that they just pick this up as a hobby and so the standards that we judge. Women's sports is is crazy. Yes because we expect them to play like men. But we're offended and grossed out if they do play like men so this is the context in which women are trying to excel in sports and as coaches and and bosses and you know in a lot of the same way that there's a real lack of black representation in professional sports where black men are the players. Yes you know. We see such a lack of women in in top positions as well so for top male tennis player to choose an accomplished female tennis player as his coach is really something it is so Andy Choosing Meraz Mo is a big deal with cover that and why it's a big deal the part for me that makes it an even bigger deal and this is where he's getting a lot of pushback is at some people are getting tired of hearing about him praising. Resmo feeling that relative to what other players would say about their coach. He's speaking more about his coach and others would. And why? And then they take that as tokenism and that he's giving her undue praise or he's trying too hard to be a feminist. When in fact that's the impressive he sees the inequality and that's why he's doubling down on right. He's like a dog with a bone. You talked about that. It fits perfectly with his personality in that. He's so stubborn that if he sees that this is something that he wants to to make an issue to speak for women's involvement in sport that he's not GonNa let it go and he isn't and bright. You know this is something we know about Andy. Murray from way back that. He's stubborn and so to see this part of his character. Kind of used for good deeds is really kind of cool. Yeah so for your your thoughts on listening back to that. You're terribly bored. Yes that could use a very thorough. Edit is my first impressions okay knows. It's hard because this was recorded five years ago. It's something that we've covered so extensively since then that it feels like so repetitive at this point Hillsdale and at the time and he had just hired Mauresmo in two thousand fourteen he was well was and still is. Tennessee's only male feminist. What of the very few in tennis. Who actively support and celebrate women athletes? Who Do the Work Nick? Nick Curios is actually one of those since then John Illman. There aren't very many. You can count them on one or two hands one thing. That's kind of striking me now. Is Andy has pushed back a lot and bristles at that label for a different reason. I think the label being funny. Yeah and I think at first. It was a discomfort with the word itself and now it's a more sophisticated discomfort with being seen as this male savior as it being his responsibility to to save women from persecution. When it's not at all how he sees his role. He gives this interview recently where he was asked about this and he said well you realize these things happen every single day to female athletes and I just feel like everybody should be treated equally. That's it he pauses. This is the editorial part of this article. He pauses laughing with incredulity. At how novel some find his as he puts it simple views more goes on to say I don't think it's a radical or outspoken thing to say it's quite a basic thing so if someone asked me or says something that I think is wrong I will defend woman so to your point he just sees it as second nature just something that everybody should be doing and the fact that he might be doing certain things and seeing certain things does not make him special really makes you all the assholes right but he said it's not even something he really noticed. Sexism is not something he was even aware of until he hired. Emily Mira's Mo back in two thousand fourteen and saw all the pushback he got. He was getting texts from his colleagues. Roma's male colleagues. One of whom said Hiring Murayama was akin to hiring a dog to be a coach. Basically that it's useless. I'm assuming he was talking about valve. Do in retrospect but then he also said currently in present time the one of the things that surprised him was how much pushback got from inside his own camp previously when he had lost matches it was like well. Andy you suck. This is what you need to do to get better whereas when Moore resume wasn't Cam folks wanted to know what she the right fit. Well you can see who was on his team and who is no longer on his team if if you really want to guess who the. Who the detractors. Were Denver do well? We don't know this. That's just circumstantial if you want to do but I'm not putting any slander on the record. Here I was talking about the socialization of Young Boys and girls into sport and how young boys come at it with this. This idea that they're better than girls. Even when they're they're probably at a physical disadvantage at those young ages right. I talking about this five years ago and to me. That is similar to these men in Morris camp questioning Marasmus by default when she is the head coach. It's the same thing because the built in assumption there is that she cannot be as good as a man and when it comes down to it. That's the work that we try to do that. I'm I'm assuming Andy is trying to do to push back and undo this gendered socialization that necessarily elevates men over women by default. So you see any doing now is when he has an opportunity to lift people up. He tries to do so and when it's important to get out of the way he does that too. And that's ideally what we hope to do you know necessarily having podcast a Lotta Times. You are speaking for people and we've talked about how being an ally is avoiding that as much as possible is sort of amplifying the voices of people who matter and who are really affected by these fights and getting out of the way when necessary. So I'd like to weave that in to my life even more getting out of the way. Yeah one of the ways that Andy is is currently doing. The work is through his fairly new sport agency. I didn't even really know this until recently that he has an agency called seventy seven and that's in reference to the number of years of took for him to break the spell at Wimbledon for British male. And what he's been doing is actively seeking out women athletes to sign to his agency. It's been an active part of his mission statement with that company right so he recently signed up and coming. Scottish footballer midfielder with Manchester City named Caroline where they sat down for an interview with the Telegraph recently. Which is where this quote came from that you read and just sort of celebrated each other praised each other a little bit. It was very feel good but it did offer some insight into what he hopes to accomplish with this management agency. That article you're referring to wasn't the Telegraph and written by Molly. Mckelway mcelwee I. I don't I don't speak Scottish so we move from Murray's feminism to the. Us Open twin to eighteen. If you had asked me if there was any chance we would do something like this and bring this up voluntarily. I would have said no a few months ago. It's a it's something I have not revisited. I've never listen to this episode again. I went through our twitter history. So we got a lot of trolls. After this episode. I got mad. I didn't act right on twitter. You didn't. I blocked people a lot of the people who talk. Shit either. Deleted their account or deleted those tweets. Because I couldn't find them or maybe were blocked or well. No some people were suspended. One in particular I remember was banned has shown up in another iteration. You like to tell me this private. Yeah there but this was an incredibly controversial and difficult topic. It was a hard episode to record. And it's been something that's been a bit painful to revisit honestly for many reasons that was quite the intro. There James. I'm just GonNa play the audio right now. This is from September twenty eighteen when tennis as we knew it would no longer exist. What they're going to remember is Serena living up to what a lot of people view her as as angry. Black woman as pardon the the phrase but a black bitch. That's what people believe she is. They have painted her as animalistic for over twenty years and now they have just one more anecdote to say. Look this is your Fav- this is your goat. This is how she behaves on an international stage. This is not a pit against each other but just a simple thing like how Caroline Wozniacki has received as opposed to how Serena's received in a lot of instances. What is it about Serena that it's that much more offensive? Sure you WANNA say Carolina did not say to she. No I'm going to stop this bald on your throat okay. That's one example. What is it about Serena? That's endured over all these years in spite of the alleged and what we believe to be growth that she's shown over the last seven years meanwhile caroline has regressed on a week to week basis But the way she's viewed is totally different. What makes Serena aggressive and caroline standing up for what she believes in a way of life using when Pletikosa attacks the umpire's chair while the umpire is sitting in it. Like why is that keeped? That was a branding opportunity for her. She left after like she thought it was good for her image because she's seen as robotic like what what is going on and so when you told me that race has nothing to do with it. I don't know what was going through the UMPIRES head. I'm not sitting here saying that. He is racist. No what I'm saying that you cannot see the situation outside of blackness because arena is black and I don't care if you don't get it if you if you're not from the United States and this hour racial mass doesn't make sense to you. That's fine I don't expect you to be a student of history. It doesn't make sense to a lot of Americans right but the fact that you don't get it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist or that it's wrong not that you just don't get it you don't see it and what does it take for somebody to see it. You know what were the things that made us see it? You know them. Well I'll go back to empathy for. I mean grew up with the the all the privileges of Whiteness. A you did not and you don't in North America. You know so. We're coming at this. From a different place Serena feels victimized at the US Open That's a pattern. That Pacific is clear so I can't possibly understand that but I do understand that as a black woman who has both been done wrong by and did wrong the US Open Yeah. She was wrong about Chino but she was totally screwed by that two thousand four quarterfinal against Jennifer Capriati. I can see that multiple things are going on here. I can see that black people who are consistently over policed punished more harshly for the same crimes stopped by police. More if you if you don't WanNa see that these things all exist in the same universe like I just don't get it. That's ain't like that somebody would bring that baggage with them right away tennis. And it's not like this is criminality. Like what Rommel's did is not the same thing no and I know somebody will oversimplify this and take words out of my mouth but you have to understand like a black woman in America might see it that way. Because she can't just let it go like you can't just take that baggage off while she's on the tennis court does that. Make Sense Serena. You're talking about specifically. Yeah and also her fans who are of color as well Because they bring their lives to their phantom of her as well right so the army. I mean the army can be very wrong very loud and wrong but that that certainly does happen but I tend to be a little more understanding because I get that. This is a phantom that is predominantly black and they get a lot of other phantoms saying the army is horrible. They're disgusting there's enough obey their bigoted and like these might be. People who are new to tennis may not be but we want tennis to be a more diverse and accessible place. At least we do. I know a lot of people. Don't but Serena fans are fans to like they like tennis too you know. It's it's not that they're just for Serena. It's almost as if some of these naysayers are out here. Salivating a HA. This is the moment. This is the one moment where you cannot bring race into it like I've got. I've got you cornered. This is the time when you are just that disgusting Black Bitch that I always knew you were. Nobody's being racist towards you. You're showing your true colors that's what it boils. Don't from me people. Want to essentially Serena as this stereotype. One that looks familiar to them. They may not know why or where it comes from. Or even if they're told about the angry black woman sterotype or all the ways in which black people are oppressed. They don't see it in their lives. They can't understand it and they're not willing to give that leeway because of it and so when you're presented with the opportunity to justify your gut reactions to this woman that you don't really make sense of yourself and you're not willing to grapple with what it means about you and your privilege and where you've come from or whatever and the way you see the world if somebody were to bring that argument to you would rather just boiled boil this down to a basic data serena she is that is who she is. She's a sore loser. She's a horrible person and this is what I've always known. Fuck everything else that I not me but these people have been forced fed to believe and be quiet about these last few years. She could do whatever it is. It doesn't matter but I've got this moment now and that goes back to that intellectual and emotional dishonesty that we were talking about because multiple things are true to renew absolutely could've de escalated. The reasons why she got heated in the first place might not be a reason. You can understand but it sure as hell is not just a rules are rules kindness situation and she smashed a racket. What is different about that? From what the majority of tennis players do. Yes it's it is. It is an infection you know but like the cumulative effect of these rules being broken brings us to the destruction of a grand slam final. And then it's all meant to be put on Serena's head. Well now we can. Fully blame it on Serena and this I think how history will see it is that she self-destructed she's a sore loser she ruinous for everybody and I don't necessarily see it that way. I know in my brain that she could have handled it differently. But that's not entirely what happened here and I'm not saying that the people who don't like Sarino or who thinks she's a sore loser they're all racists. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying oh I think it's the refusal to to understand that. Racism exists and that that it can exist in sports as well yes. That's sport is not a vacation from racism round and racism like it doesn't have to be like Carlos. Rodriguez wasn't sitting there like Whoa. I hate this black girl. She's talking to me like this. What a bitch. It's not like that like that's not how this works. What is going on unconsciously? What brought him to that level because Serena was already at a ten so what made him rather than attempt in any way to defuse the situation to put like a human touch on the empire like another umpire might have done widened. He de escalate if a player is escalating. Why are you not de escalating? That's it it's interesting because of this. This incident has the way the people talk about now has changed a lot and it's different than what I anticipated. Actually I think the the world at large came to view this in a much more complex way than I thought they were. And right after we recorded this this incident. Kinda got picked up by the the blue checks of black twitter of the mainstream press and they took it and ran with it and a lot of that was rather uncomplicated analysis of what happened but a lot of it was pretty illuminating because it took it a beyond tennis and how people might interpret the incident without having a a granular standing of the rules of tennis and that was what so many tennis bans were pissed about is that will you. Don't get the rules. Okay can we? Can we move on from that? You don't get the rules. They don't get the rules. You don't get the baggage that black people to the tennis right. So there was an incompleteness about a lot of different analyses and there was probably one of ours as well. An interesting wrinkle from this. Is that following the incident arenas army which is largely a group of black American. Tennis fans became almost like the police. Because they after seeing Serena painted in this light it was their duty to find rule-breaking anywhere. They could write and say this enforced consistently you're saying rules are the rules but here is example. Fifty six B subsection. Three of where th- rules are not the rule right and so at this point you get a little tired of it but they were doing an important project because somebody was compiling the stuff and telling in alternate history. It's so fascinating to me. How this has developed since then it might have been more helpful for folks ahead of playing that segment. If we're told you that the note that we tag that segment was what does it take for people to see blackness? So that's really what that was about in this next bit. We're going to segue into the stuff that we've done with respect to gaze tennis and specifically with respect to this segment. We're going to be talking about that summer of two thousand eighteen where I asked Roger Federer about that as well as Kevin Anderson. We've talked about Roger stuff a lot on the show but we thought maybe we should bring back the audio from Kevin Anderson Talking about that Cincinnati in two thousand eighteen. Because I feel like a. That doesn't often get spoken about enough a few weeks ago. You tweeted something and supportive. Lgbt athletes with relation to that event with Brian Haley hosted by mccarville. It's not altogether common to hear eighty players savings about that What kind of compelled you to speak up. Yeah I mean it's it's actually Ready Close is upset. A I'm a huge supporter of that My cousin actually just got married to his just lost touch with very close to time for me Yeah just swab you. It's just you know just from human rights sampling. I feel very strong enough right so seeing. That event was fantastic. I mean just speaking to some people you know as my cousin understand the challenges You know in today's world as Phychi in sports as well You know you've seen more people feeling comfortable with it over the last few years but you know that you still know just given the the statue people ran and hummy athletes are. They stole a lot. You don't think that's not though that shouldn't we'd like to create an atmosphere where people don't feel that way. So that's why I thought it was such a great a photo you get a sense that the ATP as it is no maybe from talking to other players are just from observing that. It's a place. That's a safe space for Natalie. Should they choose to come out? I'm yet to be honest. I wouldn't have done onto that. I mean it's something that's being spoken about too much to be honest with you Because he's not being in many examples of it I think You know I do think back in my mind. The sort of compensation to some the locker room and stuff. It's it's not really something that's come up to to be honest with you. I mean I would really hope so. I mean it's being two guys. I mean you know especially today I think I you know at least a lot of the players that I'm trying to more often. Obviously Clint spend a lifetime at everybody. I think would be very supportive of that saw that. That's any like like thanks. I'm if I can think of the people I know. While he knocked to sort of question for many sages listening to Kevin Speak About his own personal experience in his family really reminds me that when you know somebody wet when it happens in your own family somebody you really care about it. It's like it's so easy to see something that can be taken in a derogatory way. But when you know somebody who is gay or trans or queer things can really change for you. And do you know for a lot of folks who've never had to consider the life of a queer person and what that entails and may have had negative attitudes toward people before that's often the pathway that allows them to open up a new world view right to let gay people into their lives and I'm not saying that that's the way that it happened for Kevin but that's the way he presented it to us in that audio that you just heard and the net effect of that is that we now have somebody who is outlying. Kevin Anderson is an ally helping us start and hopefully push the conversation forward. We touched on it at the end of that clip. The while Kevin is an ally and we were thrilled to hear him talk about gays and tennis because nobody was talking about gays in tennis. This was unprompted on his behalf to be supporting this event. We still had him saying things like. I'm a huge supporter of that. And in another breath thing more people being comfortable with it. What is that and what is it? I don't really find that very instructive to be honest. I think a Lotta people just struggle with the correct language to be using. I don't read a lot into it. Yes that's what I'm getting at but it's pretty uniform. Even Federer. Federer did not say the word gay once in his somewhat long winded answer. No but Kevin's was a very different answer from Rogers. I founder refreshing at the time that Kevin was willing to say. I don't know when asked are are the conditions there for someone to come out. He said I don't know it's not something that's talked about. I appreciated him not jumping to. Oh yeah definitely. It's no problem which is kind of what we got from federal but it is. I think I hope a very different. Atp Than It was back when Justin Gimelstob was saying it would be a massive problem. And it's totally incongruous with what the locker room environment is and if anyone came out they would have an issue. I think we are in a different era. Where at least you know. This stuff may still be true but somebody saying out loud is still it would be seen as offensive so that same summer About a month before we did our first episode that required a lot of historical research right. This was our pride episode. We talked about a bunch of different. Lgbtq tennis players in history. Some of whom are extremely famous like Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova and others who you may not know a lot about how. Jacobs was one of my favorite just a a segment that I really enjoyed putting together. She was a great tennis player of the Nineteen Thirties. A four time winner of the. Us Open the great rival of Helen Wills Moody and how Jacobs was a lesbian. Who was in a relationship with a high profile socialites? In the south man was a pretty gay summer for us. We see that with Helen. Jacobs right who played in the same era was the great rival to Helen Wills. Moody who again is one of the most dominant tennis players in history. Her record is unbelievable. She went like seven or eight years without losing a match and Helen. Jacobs didn't really win. That many matches against Helen Wills Moody but their rivalry was so compelling because the contrast in their games their temperament's but the reason that we're talking about how Jacobs's that she was because she was a lesbian and she lived a relatively openly for the time. Helen Jacobs partner at the time. Imagine that she had a partner that she lived with right fairly openly in Kentucky. Her partner's name was Henrietta. Bingham and Bingham's great niece wrote a story for Reuters lamenting the fact that Henry Bingham was not able to live out loud an experience. The progress that gays have made in today's society in prison society and that she wasn't able to enjoy the love of her life. Helen Jacobs in public in private living. Together it's a fascinating story this. This woman who wrote this story about her family contributed a lot to our history. That may have been lost so Helen. Jacobs was the winner of four. Us Championships won. Wimbledon singles title a few doubles titles. She was the pioneer of wearing shorts. No women were wearing shorts as part of their tennis kit in those days and obviously made so much sense to wear shorts and not address as she was known for being more aggressive she served and volleyed compared to Helen. Wills Moody's Patient Back Court play. Think about Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova here right. Jacobs didn't beat Moody very often. Which I've said but she is one of the Great Figures of Early Twentieth Century Tennis so she finds herself in this relationship with Henrietta Bingham. Who is part of this Aristocratic Family From Kentucky? Her family owned several major newspapers. Her father became the US ambassador to Great Britain during FDR's presidency and that is how they met at a function in Britain where Henry Bingham was helping her father. Throw the swearing Ray. Though Bingham at the time was known for being a wild child apparently she possibly seduced famous women including to the bankhead. She just enjoyed throwing the parties. She was living a life as a gay woman. Not necessarily out out but not a not hiding. This was the jazz age are things. Were a little bit looser and we see these cycles right. We also get the impression from the story that Bingham's father the ambassador kind of isolated them and insulated them from a lot of the discrimination. Like there were kind of untouchable because of him and after his death. That's when things started to kind of fall apart right so jacobs was invited into the family. Home spent some time at the embassy when they were living in the UK. Henrietta and Jalan decided to move back to the US and settled in Louisville and Henrietta was introducing Helen as her partner to Kentucky High Society. And for a little while it was tolerated. But you know the twenties were over. It was the mid thirties. Depression things were changing. The culture was not feeling very tolerant. In those days. As the war started gearing up Bingham stayed and worked on the farm out of necessity. Helen Jacobs joined. The navy became a navy intelligence officer and their relationship ended. We get this wonderful nugget in this piece from the great-niece where she gives us a snippet of a love letter that was written from Helen. Jacobs to Henrietta Bingham in it. She writes such wonderful days are ahead of us. Beloved horses from harmony lending would be world-famous flowers and labradors from likewise and we will grow mellow together. We will throw historic Berlin parties and pool our brains to think of all sorts of fun and I will be are far manager when you need one and put you to sleep when you need to. We can be happy and proud together. Darling I am beside you behind you and on top of you if you want you can do and say nothing to stop the constant flow of deep and growing love. That goes out to you from my heart every time I look at you. Can you imagine receiving such a letter? I sure as hell have never renewed. Well that is true but sadly their love story does not have a happy ending. They separated Jacobs moved to Long Island with a new partner. Henrietta Bingham moved to New York as well with a different partner she suffered from substance abuse and breakdowns for for much of the rest of her life sadly due to her drug and alcohol abuse and also. I'm assuming due to the fact that she was a lesbian. Some of her family members were pressuring her to get a lobotomy and she managed to stave that off and was able to relocate to New York and start again but her her so-called demons stayed with her but these are the layers and the textures to queer histories that we can really really get from descendants in this kind of way right. And it's such a a service that Emily Bingham did to us and the public the world to keep the story alive right there. There's a real lack of primary sources for a lot of this stuff because but also everything had to be a secret for Hataf survive right and so did you really hang onto those love letters for fair when they could be exposed and prosecuted in some instances. I'm so glad to be able to listen to that letter again We will grow mellow together. You get these wonderful wistful longing ideas about what their future could be and then she just throws in Albion top of if you want as well but something a little bit saucy and we know that that love story did not come to fruition. That didn't have a happy ending but like we said back then. So much of our history of queer history is unspoken and where really at the mercy of primary sources that were left over like I said descendants great nieces who are still around to tell the story when people actually want to hear it because people don't WanNa hear it back then the great thing about that story is that it's an Helen's own words because oftentimes when we get these stories. They're told by a friend somebody. Who's outlived this person? Who might not be themselves could be an ally but you don't get the same richness as to what life would have been like back then. This is really unique now for something completely. Different Colleen Vandeweghe who you may know is Coco has has suffered at our hands over the years. I can say that now we have been a little rough on colleen. I see here that this is the bit that you're not happy. With in retrospect is stuff that you would have said back then so this clip is from November two thousand seventeen and were discussing an incident where colleen screamed at her opponent. Yuliya Girgis get. That should out of here and at the time it was kind of one in a long line of what we viewed as indiscretions or misbehaviors before we say too much. I'd like to play the clip. And then then I'll talk about it. This is me in defensive cocoa while at this this juncture in that I wanted to posit a few questions okay to push back at that in terms of how we viscerally reactor rhetorical or not sincerely. Okay is it because she is not particularly feminine her aesthetic and physicality that she's a jock that we find that threatening in some way that we find that kind of outburst more disgusting because it's coming from a woman another man. Oh do answer. Yes I do for the first question I will. I will concede that her physicality and the way that she performs gender can be off putting to some people because that reaction is not something that we think about right. Correct a difficult question. Something I what myself and the second part of your question men who behave like that. I don't like that either and I mean I think we've we have receipts on that. We've shown that the players who I admire roughing it all for example even Anne Murray with his crazy shit would never would never scream at an opponent like that saying get that Shit Outta here. I don't WanNa say that because I don't know all of receipts not GonNa put my vote there. But Andy has a lot going for him. I don't know if that's necessarily one of the right. Because he does hope. Most of his outbursts are self directed and the worst thing that he said to. Someone was everybody hates you to Lucas. All that was not no shave a well. No it was just like it's a bad look. You're losing you just lost the first set. You're trying to stay in this match great and you punish a second serve badly. You had a great shot and I something takes over you that you have to scream. That is just. It's this is this is tennis and I hate to sound like a prude. And a SNOB. But this is not basketball like you didn't just dunk on her to the alt-right listeners. May there are any left who may posit this question as well. How do you reconcile your admonishment of cocoa situation with? Serena's you assume outburst and can you owe the US surely Australian would do the shoved on your throne. Yes He i. I think you could pick better ones oak on the the. Us Open outburst. We have been through so many times. I didn't condone it at the time and I don't now. She paid her price. She served her time. And but those this past those actions Like what's what's the difference between the two well She didn't directed at her opponent. Now think it's great to direct. It added fish. Update official either trying to do her job. I believe that official was wrong. But that doesn't that doesn't excuse what Serena did and I'm not here to relitigate what that what that whole thing was. We'll get so set aside specific incident. They'll want him to the Nazreen over the years rightly or the this supposed gamesmanship or the drama. See I think that would? Cocoa does exceeds drama and is just bad bad sportsmanship. That's all you got. Yeah that's all I got. I don't like it. I'm trying to get you to a point where you just had to like her. Well I don't and that's not a secret and if we're being honest a lot of that is because of her politics and I reserve that right okay. I just tried to complicate her a little bit. And I I appreciate that and we are about as who should be talking about stuff like that now. Is there anything about? Coco's game that you would be complementary bottle yes yes. I'm glad you asked because I try while we try our best to be fair. At least I don't think we've been entirely very cocoa over this past year Are you like on the count known? Not On the bandwagon. It's not so much about being fair. It's about within the context of what we what you just said. Trying to be fair as podcast right and objective or whatever we have not been that to Colin. Yes we not that we necessarily but we all very subjective. But we're open about that. Yes put bias yet correct. Maybe we have not been entirely fair but to be fair. T- BEF IN THIS SITUATION. Yuck I mean colleen made the top ten. It's no accident. She had a great year at the majors. She has a really good volley. She has touch at the net. Her volleying is so impressive at some of the easiest. Precise volleying is zine on tour. Yep Anybody who's bigger in stature and you know more imposing moving forward to the net. She does it so seamlessly yes. I agree and a you know I like I just love the power game like the women's power game is something really like so her attack mode is impressive but I think that her brain gets in the way a lot like it's her own worst enemy. Aside from the sort of the intangibles. She has an impressive game and it can get her really far. Just WANNA which we've seen biggest serves on tour with the big forehands the backhand everything's powerful right. Her movement is probably the WEAKEST ASPECT OF HER GAME A. Yeah but she said you. Can you can sort of fudge that I mean less so I think in two thousand seventeen. Wta But for a long time Lindsay Davenport's movement wasn't great and it was never amazing but it got better. She's shown this year a desire to improve and get better to get to the next level. Yes so I think for folks who are really opposed to cocoa. You may want to take a few anti cocoa pills heading into two thousand eighteen. Because it's entirely possible that she could be busting out. Oh I I don't think we need to go that I'm not ready for all of that. I'm never going to like her but I can acknowledge what works in her game. Lordy well I we kind of gutted a bit by thing at the end there that we need to brace ourselves because she could be busting in a big way twenty seventeen and then got injured and has been a shadow of herself on the comeback trail so bright and I feel badly about that. It makes me view her in a different light where she is. Now what is it that I feel badly about? I'm happy for the opportunity to look at this again because I'm not proud of it. Why because I don't think that I was being entirely honest with myself or the listeners. Because I said we try our best to be fair and we are subjective. And we're open about our BIC's at the time. I presented it as if that were enough that that being open about it was enough to have integrity and looking back. I don't think it was. I think I think I was being unfair. And just because I was being honest about. That didn't make it okay. What were you being unfair? Because you presented a thesis statement at the beginning of the clip that Coco being a woman who behave this way makes it look really different. And the colors people's reaction to it and the which is a term that that she performs gender in a certain way right and I knew I remember at the time I knew where you're going and I agreed with it in principle and I didn't pick up the thread and had I if I had the opportunity again. I would have because I was at the time. Clouded by this dislike and I. I really couldn't get around that so I see that as a failing on my pick up the thread and goal. Where where would you have gone? Well okay so at the time what I said to defend myself was that no. I don't defend that behavior in men either but it wasn't about whether I defend that behavioral is weather. That behavior is generally acceptable right. That that's what I didn't interrogate fully enough and that's what I would have would have done if I could go back and look at this again. The fact that other people do not receive gender being performed by women than immediately cast colleen in a certain way right whereas it might be different for you she then gets caught up in this tornado. Fucker should can't get on right even if she tries so a. We have been harsh on men who act crazy and tennis. That's but a lot of people aren't and the general thrust of men behaving badly in tennis is oh look at this funny incident with Fabrio or John McEnroe or you know that it's entertainment so I should have been more honest looking at colleen and I should have so. This was recorded in two thousand seventeen. When you mentioned the Serena. Us Open incident. You were talking about two thousand nine. Chino hadn't happened when it. It hasn't happened yet but I should have lent the same empathy that I give to Serena or Venus or any of the other female players that I liked should have lent that tour to colleen as difficult as it would have been at the time and you can also still not like her right. That's unimportant why should she care if I like her? So for the next clip. I cut this early last week and at the time. It was interesting to me. I kinda have forgotten. What's in it. I had no idea what's because I haven't touched so I think what we're about to hear is a segment. We did in twenty eighteen about equal prize money and at the time. That topic had already been overdone. But I was trying to distill kind of the most important arguments in favor of equal prize. Money this is what you I think. That's what we're about to hear. We shall see when people say that. Well you know with the more popular. People are more interested in men and watching men. That's a because you're in the golden era men's tennis right now Enjoyed it's not GonNa last and be society is set up to disadvantage woman in this argument. Brash women start behind the bomb while having to prove right they're worse you know we've talked about this before in the podcast when girls are five years old and they're playing any kind of athletic sport with a boy of the same age. They have more physical prowess more likely. That is because they develop more quickly than men do than boys break and so when a boy comes to that little athletic and and counter thinking that he's better than the girl and he's going to beat that girls because he's been taught from a long time ago that he should be better than that girl that he is better than that girl and that boys should be girls because boys are better than brains and throwing girl is socks. And then you're you're gay because you throw like a girl right. These are the ways that we quite. Frankly fuck apart children and they grow into adults who behave like complete morons on twitter and income sections and my God professional tennis players on the ATP tour like this role today said Oh. Do you really think ten year olds or thinking about sociology? Yes you know. Yes when of young girl things that she can compete on the level of a boy. Whose if one foot shorter than her yes. That's sociology. I was working the art thing. But you know this person said that men are better athletes on women are and I am. He said that's biological. It's a fact I said No. It's a sociological construct. There's no fact in that at all and the doors. The argument that you know do do you think any girls are dealing with sociology at ten years old and I didn't even respond with well. Of course they are absolutely making my point right and I made a decision at that time that you know you and your ten followers were not getting the benefit of my response because like if I were to respond to everybody who did not have the intellectual mental processes thoughts. I would do nothing in my life. Nobody they're not prepared to hear it to know is what you're wasting your breath. This is what I'm talking about not engaging because sometimes yeah not worth it but this is something that I'm particularly not willing to engage with because I don't talk about this often but I have a bachelor's and master's degree in sports psychology This is actually my training. I took courses on sports in the civil rights movement Ho Race Interacts with society and and Sports Gender Relations in sport all these different sociological perspectives. In which sport can be view? I actually have some expertise in this area. Yep and it's a passion of mine but this is not something that can translate through twitter. The problem with sports is that like in sports. Everybody think expires in there. Everybody on expert so many people are unwilling to consider sport throw Sociological Lens. A yeah but that they believe that it's separate from and a an aspect of society where everything is so stats driven. There's no way that you can convince somebody that you saying. Bolt who runs a one hundred meter race in nine point five? Something seconds is not as good as Sharon for his apprise who is a double Olympic gold medalist multiple world champion break from the same country. Who runs who is just such a joy to watch run you know. Well it's okay. Let's this idea of being better and deconstructing baton is. It's something that's hard to to to push through the higher faster stronger. Bright will our intrepid field. The contrast is so stark right like the best man. Run faster than the best woman that that's a fact in track and field but in other sports it's like what sort of attributes do you value in an athlete. And maybe you think that Serena Williams is a better athlete than say Tomas Bertie Now would she win if they played no? But is that? Is that why you watch sports the idea that she's not as physically strong that she can dead lift more than a top male athlete. Is that important? And I don't think it is no I don't either. That's not why we watch women's sports or sports in general and even if you think that that makes a male athlete butter than the equivalent female athletes. That is not then reason for you to say that one should be paid more than the other. Bull Right. It's not because that's not how we pay athletes. No we don't pay athletes for their time. They don't punch a time clock Some boxing matches last like Oregon. Right right and they still get paid millions of dollars. They don't get paid by. The second does not how sports works. You don't get paid by the set nor should you? Because some five set matches are boring and people are not watching. You know same. With some to set women's matches are going to anyway. I feel like we spent long enough. And these arguments. Y'All to want us to talk about Ho- equal prize. Money is predicated on fairness not economics. Right right I you know. This is where Venus's coming from this is where Billie Jean King coming from. We're not GONNA win if we make the economic argument or if we entertain these many contradictory arguments against any equal prize. Money people arguing against prizemoney have an ideology and they're searching for anecdotes tobacco I've said this before I'm plagiarism. Which is why you're paying for yourself. Which is why we think of it. As such a cut and dry no-brainer issue not even willing to interact with these with these opposing thoughts. Right bright it's a moral argument. I believe that the moral argument has been the most successful in making strides toward equal prize. Money I think that's what works. What about the people who who then say you frame it in terms of a moral argument which only goes to affirm my position that you know quantifiably? Speaking women aren't up to scratch with men. You have to then bring in this extra you know vague raid right right kind of way of describing it to make your arguments okay. Well my argument would be that. I've not a capitalist and I believe in regulation. Oh God I don't think that the free market rules everything because I think that's chaos that that's it. I think that a society or societies plural. We're allowed to have cultural standards and values to which we aspire and for me. This is one that I aspire to the equality of the sexes regardless of WHO's bringing in the most money because not what I value. So that's that's it. That was a bit of a mic. Drop I'd like you to acknowledge my wingman. Yes you really separate. Thank you okay to to add on to what you said at the end there. You're not a capitalist and you do not believe in the free market but also the free market doesn't necessarily demand that men should get paid more than women because there have been times historically where women have been more popular especially in tennis. They weren't paid more those times. I mean the free market does not exist. We we know this. It's it's extremely clear. In the current crisis that major corporations are having to be bailed out now once a decade or even more frequently than that like the free market is not working. That's a bit of a side. It is but it's frustrating. What I think what I was getting at at the time is that so. I'm making a moral argument. What I wanted was for the detractors to admit that they were to making a moral argument that you know the entertainment value. The number of sets the the relative popularity of men's women's tennis these are not rigorous analytical arguments. You don't have spreadsheets to show me ride like these are all moral arguments. You're coming from a specific perspective and most of the people who are doing against equal prize. Money are not coming with balance sheets and income statements and ten years of ratings history. They're simply not doing. No they're coming to you with a fictitious balance sheet. They assume you will take to be fact because like we said earn habits owed. We are so talk to assume that men are better than women in sport that why would there be a balance sheet that says otherwise like. I don't have an economics degree but I'm not stupid either. Listen everybody is guest letting fucking these days as one thing that one of our earlier clips about I think it was about in the Andy Murray segment when we were talking about how the one thousand th ranked or the two hundred fiftieth ranked man could beat the top female players like cool fine. Who the fuck wants to watch the two hundred fiftieth ranked male player? Are you spending three or four hundred dollars on a ticket to WATCH THEM ON ARTHUR ASH? No absolutely the fuck. You're not but will of the sexes. Marcus Willis versus really Venus Williams like no no disrespect to those guys who are working their asses off a but really people are paying a thousand two thousand dollars to watch the top women play. Even though the Best College player could probably beat that woman who cares like if if strength speed and fitness were the only measures evoke Karlovic might be the biggest superstar in the most highest paid athlete in men's tennis and he is simply not like there are so many different measures an emotional responses that people want to watch tennis players. Some of it is supreme athletic. Feats like Novak and Rafa. Listen some of it is drama. Some of it is. It's it's all big three driven and everybody else is the trick. Lo Que these players who should be sold thankful to be making this money off the coattails of these men rather than would you say. They should be kissing their feet. No no for the record. That was a joke but rather than agitate and try and bring women along. You're both in an economic struggle here together. You want to suck from that big three teat even more and get as much as you can rather than work with your compatriots on the WTO. Tour where experiencing a similar economic disadvantage. Sure I would like to put a moratorium on the teat metaphor if I could. But it's a minor quibble so we said we didn't know what was coming in that little clip. We did not and we just Kinda went with it last bit before. We wrap up this episode. This is from circling the wagons in ball marks where we talk about tennis fandom as a fetish do member what circling the ball marks was referring to. I do not retin really. I'm Oh my God. This looks so different about ten months later it was. When Sophia Kenan beat Serena Williams at Roland Garros in twenty nine always listen? We barely knew who she was. We were making fun of the fact that she was circling. All the ball marks on the clay and I mean what seven months later? She's a grand slam champion and a top five player. That was may twenty nineteen. Yeah I don't ever recall. Because Twenty Eighteen Serena got to I think the what the fourth or fourth round out Maria so this was definitely last year. Wow so here. We go one of the big downsides of this week. This first week of the French Open was the mad wild seemingly out of nowhere. Beefs that happened on Tennessee twitter. Who has time for all this to even keep track of? Who's mad at home? It's last night. I tweeted while tennis. Twitter burnt itself to the ground today. Good night and maybe that's a good thing. I keep in mind that we have already lived through the twenty eighteen. Us Open. We lived through that and yet this feels worse somehow. No no no my take is. That feels more deranged. I have lived through that and I'm not doing it again. Some quite simply not doing it again. I'm not engaging anymore what we're talking about. Of course these Serena. Dominic team pressroom drama. That's one of the things that you've one of the things. One of the things does the most recent one we have members of Rina's army Tagging Alexa so Hainian blaming him for Serena's career I I mean talking about salute mess talking. Boats SORTA BE CRUDE HERE. But if it weren't for his sperm we would have twenty four like that should right like his. Who is a we hire? Who is a we here? Why did you help Serena win any of those majors? She won the majors. She decided to have a beautiful child with this man who she seems to have a relationship with it. Even if it wasn't it's none of our business. That stuff is so beyond the Pale. It is horrifying. It's crazy to me the things that people feel okay with saying on twitter. You're really gonNA use your name your own name and put that stuff out there in a sense credit to those people because we know there are other people who hide behind wall. Aliases and pictures of players. And and say even worse so but to me like this is the the danger of fandom because Phantom is a fetish right it takes a living thing and objectify that person so it it can suck all the humanity out of a real person and they become a totem. They become an object that you can view all your hopes and dreams into so that person's health and wellbeing and happiness matters less to because they are they're a symbol right. They're not a living breathing. Human being with flaws and pain and weaknesses. Of course not all fans are like this but this is what phantoms can do. But at the same time you want them to step and fetch it and smile and enjoy the tennis that they're performing for you. Oh is that a hit a get you see I. I do try to keep in mind. That person's humanity. Want and that's actually. Why I say that for Serena because as someone who has been important to me I I do want her to be happy. Because it'll make me happy you know I I don't know maybe that's maybe don't believe it but I I do at a very base level. What has become crystal clear is that fandom and being a fan is an entirely irrational experience in proposition like at best. It's irrational and at worst. It can become what we've seen over the past weekend it can become damaging and dangerous can also become dangerous in a criminal sense in the in the Kissel. Monica Seles or back in the present day now yes. Fandom exists along along spectrum and actually this is something that I would really like to tackle in the coming year. 'cause IT looks like we're GonNa have a lot of downtime without tennis being played. I would like to look at celebrity culture and fandom from kind of more academic perspective with regard to tennis because maybe this is something that hasn't been done in tennis. Well maybe you should do some work on aisher. Am It's safe to say? When was that recorded last year? The folks are still out here while note acting all crazy still demanding things that they have no business demanding of tennis players. The I mean. Let's be clear like tennis twitter. And the communities that have evolved on social media have added so much to the experience of this sport and a lot of it is good. There is a fine line between joking about Serena's instagram videos and saying well. I still don't see her exercising or moving her feet. There's some levity in that because part of the experiences that you suffer a long if you are a true stand of a person be in pop music or sport USA for along with them a new experience the highs along with them and so at this current stage soon offense are are going through it and so that some were able to find the humor in it in a way. That's not done riot rude. And as we say home Outta Auto Kudos to the right. But there's a fine line before it slips into just you need to check yourself because you are auto. I wanted to close the episode with some levity because this was the gravity episode. I didn't prepare you for this. Would you say that you're now currently defying gravity and brings that levity To quote between. Yes MC herself who is celebrating an anniversary this month the week she is that check you like. We don't know if she is a fifty forty nine fifty one now. We know she's either fifty or fifty one as of March twenty seven hundred dollars but we don't know the year it could be either nine hundred sixty nine or one thousand nine hundred and her wikipedia page. It'll say that her birthday is either much twenty seven thousand nine hundred sixty nine or March. Twenty seven thousand nine hundred seventy. I admire someone. Who is that famous in the digital age? Who can keep her birth date a mystery amazing and with so many family members willing to sell her down the river so what I wanted to do was a segment. We've done many many times before things we like right now. Something that's happening in popular culture that you are enjoying because people need joy right now where you're not going to give me a heads up about. No no I want you to. Just go off the cuff. Well you go first so my mine is one data. Time has returned in a different iteration. It was a Netflix show was cancelled by next netflix. And now it's on pop TV which is also what houses Shits Creek in the United States. One day time if you have not seen. It is such a delightful show. It's kind of this. Traditional Sitcom it's a reboot of the early eighty s Sitcom and it. Just it has everything. It has joy. It has Rita Moreno. Who's in her eighties now? Well into her age yeah and it tackles some very serious topics but never gets too bogged down in them. Doesn't get preachy. It's just fun. I love it things I like since. I'm unprepared for this out. Go with the thing that I have most recently liked. Which was last night. I was going down at Youtube rabbit hole and I landed on Marine Whitney's appearance for the Prince of Egypt on Oprah when they were both promoting their individual albums. Whitney's my love is your love. One of the absolute best rb records of the last twenty five years and a shame that it took so long for her to be able to make it under the so-called guidance of Clive Davies and Mariah promoting her number one's record which featured her thirteen number one to date at that time plus an additional four tracks. Anyway that is a moment that it's unrivaled. You had these two women sitting down on the couch with Oprah for an hour and I smile through the whole thing and the best part I mean. There's the singing. They opened the show with singing. When you believe together. And then they each perform a solo track Whitney performing I learned from the best which is one of my absolute favorite when he songs and then Meritas I still believe. And at the end of President Oprah asked them if they think of themselves as divas or something like that and you can tell that they clearly both do Whitney makes no bones about it and then she goes on to define what is and then Oprah Mariah. So do you think you're a depot? And she goes well you know they're divas from back in the day and then there's divas oh the day and they all three just start cracking up and the answer to this question lays to rest any doubt that Marine Whitney got along because you cannot fake that report and even even if Moran Whitney fought because I'm sure they fought occasionally. There was genuine love between them. And then the Moore went on to say. That Oprah was a diva Oh television and it just it went on for a while because Mariah was asked about her divas live performance where she sang alongside aretha. Franklin and then shared the stage with sleeping carole King Schneider Twain Doris and she then referred to Aretha as diva old life and so they just riffing on this whole thing and it could have been a very loaded question because you have Whitney who is the demob higher standing at that time and you have Mariah who sees the protege the one who has compared to her for years and they somehow manage to navigate it together with with graciousness toward each other despite how they both feel about themselves and with deference to. Where the other person is you know it was. It was skillful lighthearted fun and genuine. And my only regret is that Oprah did not interrupt them as much as she did in the hour because so many times there were there ready especially to give you something. Cute and Oprah's like he did not have that problem. Whitney sat there and she says her piece. And you could tell her otherwise see I sprung the segmen anew and look how good you did I did. Well alright thanks everyone for listening. This was the second and final. Tbs rewind will be back shortly with some original content. We're working on other stuff. We're not just copping out here by during these episodes we're giving us some time to work on some other stuff so look for that. Thanks for listening. My name is Jonathan. You can find me on twitter at tennis. Underscored John and I'm James at Elliot. Jamar to els to tease. The podcast is on twitter at body serve on Instagram at same. And you can find us on spotify apple podcast etc over. Wave under case overcast sideways. Yeah yeah all of all those till next time. Thank you very much.

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"Volition Hello Hello. Welcome to another episode of. Yeah we said said. This is our last episode of the season which is not saying much because we'll be back in just a handful of weeks between. I'm you know what I'm proud of us. Because this is like a lot of episodes is here. We did much better. We really did. Yeah for sure mm-hmm it was rough because we are feeling very Novak right now retired and it's been a long season but you know we're doing what we do How're you feeling this Thanksgiving week? A little overwhelmed. I got a lot of stuff to do still but you know I'm here I'm breathing. Make it through. Yeah you know I. I just I overslept this morning. I enjoy my sleep. It was the first time on this break that I got to sleep so I took a little time mortgage sleep tomorrow or any other day problem Anyway enough about us to the tennis. Tennis Yelena Pinko is being caused by Marion. Bartoli on trial basis they They formed a partnership towards the end of the year Also just congrats to mayor by totally on getting engaged. That's pretty cool too. Pinko was nineteen twenty. Six is on the year end singles competition. And then this partnership began just before the tournament in Lance were Ostapenko made her first tour final since Miami twenty eighteen eighteen she then one Luxembourg her first tournament win since Seoul. Two thousand seventeen so right away. Some much much improved results for her right at the end of the season where I would I would assume she should stick with Bartoli for a little bit now to see how things continue into the new year. I think I never really considered Bartoli to be a coach but I could see where she could be a really good one You know she has all that experience and was You know always a great top got fifteen top ten player and then also she has No shape she has her dad to look upon as what not to do as a coach. So I think she would be a good coach. It's pretty cool to see kanus according has split with his coach. Dante tape teeny after nine years. Together I didn't realize that they have been together for nine years but Nishikori season with the US Open because of an arm injury. Um I'm so we did not see him. Compete at here at the end of the year. he did not announce any changes to his partnership with. Michael Chang who has also been a part of this team since two thousand fourteen I would like to I don't know I don't know that it matters. I would like to to see a matter but I don't blow for Nishikori. Yeah Yeah I mean I don't think it's A winning record. I don't see the contains as a bad thing. I don't want to see it as a great thing. Either I think he'll continue to be basically the same player where he's been for the past ten years nor maybe maybe he's the Let's see I'm trying to figure out some to equate him with. Maybe he's the Tomasz birds of his Asian. No say yeah but like they both make one slam finals comparable Ya. I see it Sasha Abidjan has discontinued his culture. Well he did a couple of weeks. Few weeks ago discontinued his Relationship Coaching relationship with Keith Hewlett which She was not too happy about it. She talked to talk about it but I'll I'll press release And then this week. Sasha announced that he is now coaching Yastrzemski so I don't really see how those things would be different. But maybe she's paying more money. Donald I don't I really don't know he said he talked after he You know they announced that. They ended that he ended his partnership with Kiki He. He said you know it might seem like a selfish or whatever because he he just felt like it was something he had to do for him for his career his well being so you know she she I guess she wasn't making improvements that he needed her the making this year and he decided to move on to a younger prospect well Kiki must really be feeling though because I heard around the body podcast that she end team team broker so She's really I saw something. I saw something about that one the twitter but I was in another language so I was like yeah. I'm not about to try. Let's translate the Wow sorry grew real love year. Yeah into twenty Taylor Townsend and she took the social media to speak her mind on come out marine his integrity or lack thereof. According to her this was really surprising. Use It this to me and Yeah Yeah I didn't know what was really going on. You know but he was a it was like using her name for lesson kind of promotion or something in riot claiming claiming he was her coach. And I guess this isn't the first time there's something like this has happened with him because she was talking about how she was. Basically tired of it wasn't going to put up with it anymore. And she was she called him too sequel in everything she. She's this I got the post here air. Let me see it says if you know me the you know that this is not not something that I would normally do. But I feel that it's time to set the record straight about Chicago's combined Murray of Excess Tennis Academy I can no longer remain silent. While he continues continues to to see professional players aspiring players sponsors and the tennis community by misrepresenting himself and taking credit for things. He has not done Monica Monica as which is Monica. PUIG is the recent victim of his deception. I started my tennis with Donald Young Senior and lawn a young who taught me to play tennis from four four years old and assisted me in being number one and juniors in the world from two thousand and ten to August twenty thirteen I trained at the US Ta under the instruction of Kathy Ather Rinaldi and briefly want to Aero Zina garrison was my primary coastal September twenty thirteen twenty fifteen. Zena come out on board as an assistant coach. During that time I did not go public in the past because I had hoped to resolve this matter directly with Komo Murray I will no longer remain silent. And while he continues his lies and false advertisement I did not give consent to use my name and likeness for his ongoing personal and business. Monetary Regain Kamau is currently stating that he is my coach and promotion of the upcoming US PTA Illinois mini conference on November seventeen to nineteen held At Excess Athletic Club. His latest actions have prompted me to expose his pass in ongoing pattern of deceit. If you are a fan of mine please support me and had my back. Gordon Gordon this murder and doing this I am clearing my conscience and telling another piece of my story. Thank you so much I love you guys and then of course you comment. Wow uh-huh yeah. That was a lie. Yeah I was. I was floored serious. Influence because Considering Sloan is her good friends and s you know for her to for her to be at the point where she's raise a blast. This man like that look more power tour kinda crazy. Kim Clijsters you now L. C. had announced earlier this year that she was going to come back again. Intimately Twenty This time she has stated that that she would have to delay her comeback a little bit. So Yeah Yeah See. Something happened with her knee in Houston. Choose should be rehabbing. Her knee in early throughout the at the beginning of the year at least So she won't be back in January for Australia like she play and and I'm not sure if it's you know a good sign that you know she blowing her knees out already in practice but We'll see you know. Oh how after this When she comes back whether it's in the spring you know like for Indian Wells or whether she waits Klay whatever will we'll see? I'm interested to see how it goes. She was never really want to have extended periods of good health anyway and that was in her twenties I don't know I just whatever she's got going to get ready because the girl's GonNa kill next year anyway. Whatever she does come back? They'RE GONNA be ready for this time. They're saying two thousand nine. Hello Sarah Irani also took to social media venting her frustrations with the Italian in Tennessee fans damage. I read this is small. Hello guys I just want us to share some thoughts with you I. I just finished my tournament and Asu Song Paraguay. Why lost in the final has been quite a pleasant week on personal side in quite a tough week tennis wise as you know since when I started again playing tennis in February I had a lot of problems with my serve in here in Paraguay? I decided with my team to serve under underarm all week. I realize now that during this week I received not a single critic or complaints from people here and I've been encouraged and applauded for from my resilience and for my desire to find a solution even on social network where where it is always easier no one from Paraguay. Send me anything bad only positive messages messages. Instead in Italy I keep being insulted by a lot of people regarding mainly my serve. I think I definitely definitely thought too much much in the last years about your comments insults in opinions and now I can't anymore I won't be able to serve again like normally players do. Maybe I will just serve underarm. If I won't be able to even serve underarm. I will think about something else. It is not okay for you. Send a letter to the W. T. A.. Asking them to change the rules about server ask them to disqualify me for quote unquote awful serve if inset you just have other problems in me send a letter to Santa by Santa. I guess she's just through you know she's doing what she was. She can't can't do because you know if it's tough out here and she's gotTa make her coin so she's not going to stop playing. Do what somebody else thinks she should do. She's doing what she can't. Apparently that's the way things working for her right now with whatever injury she has going on so I cannot get she made it to their final Paraguay's so yeah I mean this under this underarm serve can't really that much different from her over on because new in that go here to the speed or the lack thereof is fine. It is what it is with with UH assist Sarah. Exactly I don't know I. They they add like she. was you know hidden bombs before. And she's not. That was not the case. The tennis anti-doping programme has provisionally suspended. Abigail Spears the the thirty eight year old tested positive for prostate and testosterone. Jesus thirty eight. I'm only reporting on this. Because she's American there were some other players I also didn't really know from other countries well girl. I'm not know our with the head How long is mentioned? No it just said said provisionally suspended There might. This was a couple of weeks ago and I didn't look again. Yeah they might have updated it on. Wow Yeah Marin Chile which on our third our press release so far Posted on instagram. Saying he had he. His doctors have confirmed that he will not need surgery for his knee. He stated that he has been dealing with a recurring airing knee injury for a year and a half but we have with successful this time around. He'll Miss Davis Cup which he did but players but plans to be ready at the start of twenty twenty so this explains I guess a lot of results over the last year and a half because they were mostly. Yeah so I didn't know but that explains a lot. Yeah I thought he was. Just you know falling exactly but yeah good luck to him at the start of next year. He's somebody who actually can play very good tennis when he's at his best. We've seen it so Amanda Manda Anisimov has signed a new deal with Nike reportedly worth in the Maria Sharapova neighborhood quote unquote congratulations to her. Take a spot says we love it. We love it because that that the host a Nike contract is up at this year. Anyway spot. Congratulations I hope. I hope Amanda has a good year next year. Hope she can build more where she started this year. Climate has some points to defended the majors but hopefully she can do some good things between. Yeah what she got. I think around sixteen in Australia right. Yeah and Semifinals impairs correct. Act though she got on it some of the years that are basically she doesn't seem like the type to be boggled by Presser Sir anything though. So hopefully that's true. I mean a lot of these girls seem like they. They wouldn't have been like who would have thought Mughal Roosevelt Rosa with fall to the depths that she has like God speaking of some news about her right. Oh yes she is. She's back with countries Martinez for next year. So I'm assuming this time it's not a like a testing in temporary thing. They'll be working together throughout next year. You know at least as far as we can tell you know. Sometimes he's girls like to drop a coach in the middle of the season. But you know I think they'll I think the work well together. They she coaster tonight Wimbledon title. Exactly I don't I don't understand why they ever broke up right. We'll see how it goes. You know mcgruder doesn't. She doesn't seem to be declared Claire. She used to be but which is terrible. Because she's still so young but Maybe maybe conceived. Can you know wake up and get back to the top near near the top. I really thought she was going to be that big. I really really really really did. A lot of people did hours right now. Anyway ooh Larussa thirty thirty five. It's not as bad as I thought you. Congratulations to came in Andy on the new baby. Yes I read that it was boy. This is the third child. Yes their third child. I have to remind myself that is three because I thought it was too. I missed missile. One in the middle. No I missed. That one in the middle is will but it was right around. The Time Serena had Olympia so I think that's why right right. Okay Yeah you're on. My goodness any has Documentary coming out on Amazon prime over. It's going to be on Amazon prime in the a national how we're going to be able to watch it here But his whole robbery's resurfacing I think and It's documenting his time through you. Know his HIP injuries recovery and comeback and it looks very good. I watched the trailer today and I really WanNa Watch it why I know how you and I are GonNa Watch it. I don't know how everybody he also going to watch it. We have our ways. Everybody else go do it. I'm GonNa Watch dishes. I heard I saw that. I saw a couple of weeks ago and I was like. Oh my God I definitely. If I can't find it the way I need to find it then I will be A costing him on social media until they find a way to make it available to. US aunts exactly. You wanted to talk about the Bryan brothers at just a quick just a quick mention that they announced house. Twenty twenty years is going to be their final season. They'll be playing Through the US Open A so. I guess the the US Open to believe the last tournament so they don't plan on playing China go to Asia Asia or played the tour finals. They qualify this year actually skipped it but Yeah I guess a good luck to them open Hope they hope they win. Something notable in their final season we'll be nice. Win will be will be nice for them to go out with something. Will hairs I it just. Don't care out. See the point announcing retirement for Tony. Tony Antoniou nineteen and They got a whole nother. The play and I really don't care about what they do while they're playing so We'll be saying goodbye to several teams professionals in a competitive capacity as this season closes Former world number forcible Cova is retiring from the tour as well as Nico Amal Girl. Mikhail Youzhny MARKLE's Baghdad is to be rare between about and Tomasz burdette's All retiring on the ATP side of course. We discussed Lisa Earlier this year when she played her last match on the clay this quite a few players. Yeah none of none of whom will change the Sport now that's nice year. You're saying via twenty twenty twenty is the face I think of Tennessee. Going to look very different. Come Twenty One But yeah that's yeah I don't know it was ANU. Marcos was gonNA retire anyway and the end of course We kind of knew about tomorrow. Because I remember Darren Cahill saying like. I'm pretty sure it was like in in Australia this year. He was like Tamaz is not good. His back is not good. He's GONNA retire. Okay well but yeah. Good luck to all of them in their future endeavors. I'm sure we'll see at least one of them back in some capacity just not competitively. Yeah okay so Margaret Court has stated that she will boycott the Australian Open even if she is not honoured like Rod Laver. Apparently it's the fiftieth anniversary of one of her many irrelevant accomplishments. Listen something I honestly all I have to say if Margaret Unlike what you did during your tennis career Bits follow-through oh okay Like obviously it'll be fun to see your Turkey neck. Shake with envy when Serena eclipses the only claim let to relevance relevance you have. But I don't care that much okay. You're welcome to go and stay on records soon. Follow behind you. Who cares hairs? I don't I I hope they don't give in and give her anything. Just let her oldest stay home you know thumper her bibles on whatever she the only what they should do it was removed her name off of that state and that's what they should do. Remove her name off of that arena. Yeah do that really get a gone really get around up. Get that Turkey next shake. CBS blind rage. And she's talking about how she thinks all of this stuff that she's done personally. Shouldn't you know affect how she's a How she is treated as a tennis? Legend will girl. Maybe you should have thought about before you opened your trap to say all this horrible horrible horrible stuff that you said about pretty much everybody. We'd also like like to take a moment to acknowledge Roberto Batista Goot who just lost his father Rbi had just lost mother roughly year and a half ago so It's surely a very rough time in reluctance in prayers. Positively his way. This man still sort of Davis Cup and actually competed. So wow one yeah I mean. That's it's absolutely crazy Yeah but yeah. Spain did win With this new format for Davis Cup Was it was so I try. I was trying into follow along a little bit. I didn't get to watch any of it. I tried to follow along and it was so confused. It was just so much going on over some fused just because there was like what sixteen teams or something like that round Robin Round Robin format. It was it was weird like it was Round Robin already confusing and then in sixteen different teams of people playing what it was like best of three series. I guess like two singles matches doubles uh-huh doubles match in each. Not or whatever it was it was a lot I I had actually forgotten for a little while about the new format so I kept saying like players posting by team pictures and stuff on social media. I was like why there's like that's more than two. WHO teams like what's going on? I was very confused and then I remember that it was the new format and watch any of it Montana season basically ended in September. So all this other stuff has just been like extra your credit and I just didn't need Davis Cup on my great. I watched it. I watched the highlights of matches and stuff like that. They actually played very well especially candidate in Spain. ABOR playing very very well But I think I think I like this new format even throw me off and I was a little confused by the whole thing UH-HUH I think I like this better than having them. You know. Play all these random ties and all this kind of stuff throughout the year and good all these different random places is just. It's a a lot and They're talking a joke bitch in dollar actually kind of proposed the idea of convincing Davis Cup into one two week commit because this with the way this was set up this year they played a lot of tennis in this short short amount of time and they were getting the bed like three or four o'clock in the morning each time tonight and Joe Commission and our. I guess I suggest the idea of putting combining into a one two weeks event like after the US Open in September which I think is a great idea and adjusted You know talking talking with the ATP of out of combining Davis Cup in ATP Cup because they're basically the same event and it doesn't really make sense they have to the same thing thing clogging the calendar so hopefully you know at least by the end of next year. They have something in place where they get. This figured figured out because the season's already long as hell so this this huge event having it be so late in the year like it's the end of November remember Just finished Davis Cup finalists ridiculous. So hopefully hopefully they figured out September will be a perfect time for. Yeah there's a little bit of a delay there especially on the men's side I saw the you know. Now the same people bringing up the same old shit talking about They Miss Three out of five at Davis Cup and stuff but yeah I mean just like would you. Could you imagine this. Could you imagine this event being played over. Best of five league matches threes. They were getting to bed until they were getting to bed at three. Am like if they were playing five matches and all this. Jesus Christ care. I guarantee the players the players that were you know It's just not at all feasible at all. I think allies people that say stuff like that are just being selfish and not really thinking things through I mean it's literally Thanksgiving Week and These players are going to have like a week off and then start training for the twenty twenty twenty season K.. Could you handle that year after year after year decade after decade. I don't think so and that's the problem like you. Don't they're not thinking in terms of Oh my God like preservation of all these top athletes that they want to see so bad all the time. They'll that they're not thinking terms thinking I don't know like they're thinking about their childhood or something reminiscent nostalgia. That's what has that has them in the grips is the starter instead of and you think about and then you think about if you WANNA think about think about the players that you were watching. You were a child thousand. They were playing three out of five. We're those players. Do they look good or are they having surgery. Did they retire at twenty nine or did they retire at thirty nine. Think about all that stuff love exactly seriously like that is that is one of the biggest reasons players lasting as long as they are now. Like Roger. Federer's there's like thirty years old exactly. He was playing. He was if all of these things were still best applied than he. I don't think he was still be around. Rawson definitely with Silvio now like the masters events you know the master finals and stuff used to be best defied the ATP finals used to be the five like all all of that stuff being shortened to best three has helped extend these glares career. And I don't know why people think that tennis needs to be some big gladiatorial sport shortly where you have to see who who collapses I one court now it does need to be that you can still have great great masses and very -taining and high drama matches ambassador and this year has really proven that I really do think so yup and I mean even if you think about like thinking about the Olympics the last couple Olympics in the the the seriously great matches that we've the head of the last two Olympic events on the men's side and they were best of three you know I made a best two two out of three. I mean it's the proof is there. I don't know what people's problems mm-hmm okay. This is where I get long winded Tennis magazine the latest issue includes a rather elaborate red stupid decade in review section. The First Section is entitled Aces in false Said said to be the highs and lows of the decade this section included a mark of the first time no American men were ranked him a top ten and twenty ten Dan. Now bandy. Kicking Line Judge in tune. Twelve Serena losing to resign. Oh and beginning her partnership with more tug Lewington Twelve Bernie to- much his father being arrested into many thirteen. Korenets wins over Serena into any fourteen. Marcus Willis List managing the reach the main draw at Wembley in win. What round Polanski completing the lucky loser slam into between eighteen which is an even Federer switching from Nike to Uniqlo? Okay at somehow. Left out both Serena and Novak winning four majors in a row and in Murray winning his second consecutive gold medal into any sixteen or Venus and Serena winning multiple goals into twelve or the doper getting caught doping. Antoni Sixteen. How do you? How do you mention dollar a young snapping a seventeen match losing streak in twenty twelve? Believe all those things out. Okay they even left out Serena winning Australia without dropping a set while all being pregnant. Not a big deal right okay. I don't have issues with the top ten matches of the decade listed for the men and mostly because I don't care although I don't think that this year's Wimbledon final rank is number one the quality just doesn't give that However this women's list okay number ten they have covet of defeating Kerber the twenty twenty fourteen fake up final? Do you remember that I do. Not Okay I don't either. Number nine is Asaka defeating conservative at this year's Australian I put Hashtag Hashtag Nope by that with that Australian Open final. I mean I know it was close and everything but neither of them play anywhere near their best. So let's stop line. Okay number eight. They have schiavone defeating Kuznetsova at twenty eleven Australian Open. Yes ma'am Ma'am on that one that wants to be on the list. It's probably should be higher number seven they have as rancor defeating Kerber at the two thousand twelve WTI finals finals. Just that thought moving on number six holiday defeating Kerber at the twenty eighteen eighteen Australian Open in the semifinals. I will give them that when that was cute. It was a good man. Yeah that was. That was fantastic and I enjoy that a lot. Yeah yeah the last those last couple rounds at the Australian Open We're good. They were good number five they have the doper defeating holiday. alip at the two thousand fourteen French Open. Don't go anywhere on this list. Because because how doped up West she during that final let's think about okay Number four they have ostapenko defeating olive. Twenty yeah I don't know maybe maybe not number four though but it was finding absolutely number. Three they have coveted defeating Venus in two thousand fourteen Wimbledon. That hurts the hurts. Like a motherfucker but that match was super her. I gotta give it to him. That was good. I I remember that night so vividly and I don't I guess maybe it's the fact that I always liked of that. I can still you know. Think about that match and not WanNa like kill myself but It was it was. It was such great tennis and I was I was I was blown away like I. I think that's still that might be my number one. Answer the Becky it was I mean they were playing Superior Carrier First Strike Tennis the whole time it was that was that was that was classic Grass Court tennis right. There was winning. Yeah yeah they really. They really play. Venus could win that title. She definitely could she was. She was the only person that want to settle the whole time. covetable just stormed that year Number two they have Serena defeating as a Rinca to fifteen wimbledon quarterfinals. This one I also agree with that was very very high level. The ball striking was great. The problems uh-huh I have no mention of the two thousand Sixteen Ale Australian Open Quarterfinals. Kerber Nazarenko no mention of the twenty seventeen French Open final with Alvin Aliban Stevens. No twenty twelve yourself and final. Serena's Aranka No twenty ten Australian Open second round in Dementia Zero matches from Serena's Serena's modern Olympics. And those were off the top of my head while I was taking notes All in all it's okay right. But the absolute fucking the worst of it all is naming twenty fifteen. US Open semi finals. With Vinci. Defeating Serena at has the top women's match of the decade of the whole decade. It's not even the best match of that tournament that year I that I was I was my mind was I was completely blown like when I saw that listed there. That mance was like that that was not high. Quality tenants. No like at hawks. Serena could barely move out there. It's her legs. Were so heavy. It was like the you could see the nerves crushing through that entire match and I mean Vinci Vinci stayed with her in that match. That's how that's how she got the win but to say that the best match of the past ten years I On I don't understand it. I don't know they hate Serena. That's what that is. That's what it is okay because the biggest upset you're damn right okay. That one I gave you game changer. Because it's Serena wins that match. She probably wins the tournament. uh-huh and then probably doesn't lose twenty sixteen Australia and now suddenly we're discussing a ten slam winning streak instead of four sock give you that. But the the match up the decade K.. Quotes a quote DOLEMITE. You rat soup eating motherfuckers. y'All really fucking can try to with this. And you thought placing Serena as the top player of the decade. Would even this bullshit no. It doesn't because he had no choice in the ladder. Okay she wants well slams in his decade who will fuck out says even in the running in K.. Doesn't even it out. NOPE y'all some bullshit with this and it's like you know but whatever I get the magazine for free so You know whatever the mass of the decade with with all the bills that went on an era it just wasn't good anything anything. After Wimbledon that year here from SUMITA was not super high quality because she was just boggled down by nerves and the weight of expectation taste in pressure. So I don't know relying like this. I mean this is. This is a Bo face library here to put this as a number of the entire decade whole ten years. And this is the one that comes to your mind the labels they will smoke in something. That Lewis won the good stuffing Eh. Lo Que over your having to lose my blood pressures that that you got any other news No I think we covered little also Okay it's been awhile since since we had our last episode so there are a lot of results from the fall season to go through I'm GonNa do the women's side I because it was just easier that way they've been done longer On the women's inside you had cocoa Goff winning lance she be Burton's pick co in Asta Pinkos so that was cute Towns Jan in was won by Rebecca Peterson blended benches when Moscow Ostapenko when Luxembourg donald favorite favor player Saba Lunka. When zoo high? She beats the car in Mertens. Then Mugabe and Burton's Burns Sets the klay girl was vomiting elite. Able to she's GonNa make moves Sitting take that I guess she started back with exactly And then year moral number one Ashley Barty won the year end championships. She defeated bench And Kavita Lost Burton's. Who was an alternate so this is and then defeated Polish Cova incidentally I really thought as Liam was about to defend that title because okay that core they played on some sort of a beach sand surface as I understand it and I really thought I was like? Oh the title good. Yeah those girls. Were banged up to about three retirements in round robin. This this year They they play some massive. I guess you know for what it was and but those courts pretty much all the girls were were saying the courts word. I'd like so slow and it's not ideal conditions for the last event of the season when you have to hear five six seven nine twelve fifteen winners goes to win a point. That's just too much especially at the end of the year. I don't know why they keep making these year end championship relationship. Courts slow The last fast that I remember was about ten years ago when they were playing in Doha that was that was acceptable. Surface everything since been slow molasses assis and I do not understand it. I'd that's probably why Serena isn't going more who wants to do that right. Serious grant out on his slow escorts. You're like this. Nobody needs to be hurting. You get to Australian confident Then Fed Cup and the year was won by France lead innovates defeated defeated Tomjanovich and then Bardy Bagels Garcia. She it was a double Bagel Double Bagel. You're right yes very ugly Then defeats Bharti. What a mess? And then Tom. NATTA vents defeats Parmentier. Some two two and the Denisovich in Garcia partner together Avi Bardy installs her which is a surprisingly good win. I think yeah I know that can be on her double seat. Sometimes but I didn't know that Garcia could play double so good on them. They close right down to the wire I don't know say but I feel some type of way about Ashley. Barty your end in the world number one. I don't know so do I because I'm just like I. Ah I don't understand it. I mean I know she. She won the French Open this year. She also won Miami. But I don't even understand those winds my how. Where did this come from? I'm trying to think of other results. That will add up to her being number one like did everybody else just play there bad. I mean basically like Osaka Soccer Australia and then she disappeared like she. She was number one for a while. You know throughout the year that she didn't win in anything until the I don't know man I I don't know but you know good for her. Yeah beaten once gone Sir Home Slam. That's a big deal right there. That is a big deal especially for Australia. When's the last time I had the Lleyton Hewitt got it was a long time ago long as terms twenty years twenty years? You said twenty years and then I immediately thought like in nineteen ninety two years ago not even know Jesus. Yeah God we go. We didn't go. Jesus Christ who moving over over to the man's side of things Shanghai Boy Medvedev one saying how he beats. The person's they're on the way to that title Andrei Rube Lev when Moscow Sir Andrew motherfucking. Marry one. Answer I'd be. It was so happy I mean he started to get their beheld three consecutive three-setters man. He got through dead. Yeah I mean. He fought his way through. I was so happy shadow. Stockholm Federer won his fifty ninth. Basil title Basel's Basil. Whatever might as well be Uh Team won Vienna which was cool. 'cause as his La home tournament so he did. Both he won like both of the home events in Austria this year. I think it was one on the clay too good for him Jovic one Peres defeating. Sissy pass us with with Shanghai Revenge Possibly him in Shanghai and then Defeating Greg or shop to that title Milanek on Yanic Center If you've been paying attention this fall you know. Young Center is Came through women on. He lost to bear defeated. Emir Air. Anti off Oh lord and then be a Kezman Vich and Damodar Real Quick Francis Francis. What the fuck are you doing and I I was telling I was telling somebody today? I think Ti foes is just GONNA be the proverbial thirty five twenty five player and It seems like he's fine with that. 'cause you know just when you think he's going to get something going he doesn't so I'm done you know if it happened if it happens for fantastic if it doesn't I and I know probably said this on the show before but to me I will I will. I can't watch him because get them. Damn nerves Washington play. I root for him but I can't watch him and it's because to me. It looks like he's still playing junior tennis he he does not his his tennis has not matured in any sort of way of last year's and the thing is like we also have to keep in mind. This dude is still twenty anyone years old so he's still very very young and at some point he could get it together. I would like to see it happen now. I'm tired of waiting. I feel like we've been waiting long enough but at the same time. We have to give him that he is still very very young but there are other players who are a younger and they're starting to pass him by so he needs to get his shit together. I is just a enjoying his tennis and stuff because you look at where he came from and I'm sure he's happy even just be on the tour and top fifty and all of that stuff he's got A permanent smile his face at all times But I just didn't think we were shooting for Meat Mediocrity here. I thought that he was going to Put himself in position to really big things There is no way that he should be going to Milan and losing two teenagers. At the very least I win that fucking title so I don't know it's time to reassess figure so mouse out Maybe some different coaching out Something something's got to change because this hearing it you we'll say he's dependent quarterfinal points in Australia trouble. Although go he better get it together trouble. Congratulations to Yannick Center The next eighth Finals Trophy Kinda comes with some weight to it. Now because the last two champions both made the semi-finals Australian Open the following year. So I'll I'll be watching. I'll be watching in center in Australia to see if he can keep that little trend going. That's interesting well. Then we got to the World Tour Finals Finals which the the group names were weird. This is you notice that yes I did. So they had group Andre Agassi in group. Bjorn Board Award. who retired before Agassi was even professional? It was it was odd goop. Agassi was number one. Rafa number four Medvedev number six six surpass US and number seven Zverev and then of course group. You're on board with number two Jovovich three fedor five team in eight Bertini. These groups did not go the way I thought they were GONNA go. Ask for certain. Overhead is tally in the bag already. turns out. He did not know one went better than two and won the whole tournament. And and Ron Robinson. no-one no-one was undefeated I don't know some players are good. Some players did not. I was really hoping Bertini was GONNA do better. But he kinda got set out a little a bit get dragged I didn't expect fed the come out of a group with with Jovic. But he did. It actually thought from the first round match I predicted that Dominic team was GonNa Win Tournament so I fell just short on that one But that dude is somehow playing some good hardcore tennis these days his really made some good changes Yeah he's definitely definitely brutus. Arcor game big time so I figured he was in a win but he got really close. the RAF. I did not know what to expect from. Rafa offer really coming in but James Karen a little bit of an injury. Yeah but he said he was fine going at you know getting there and they seem like he was finally cleared all his matches in Davis Cup and did what he had to do. All right so you know. He's don't art in the end. stepsister Paswan this title Yes Did well to make it back to the semi's I thought I didn't expect from him. He was lucky to even be in terms to know for real he had to fight. Basically it's a last second qualify. And then he got here and he did very well. Good to see very well and I was super impressed with Surpass supergrass goes. I mean he beat the brace off his he finally got that win over Medvedev. You've and he pushed Roger to three sentence. You know they play Dan. You have three hours. That was a very high quality match Asia. It was it was it was very very good. And then he got to the season he got another win over Federer and yes second and third this here. Second Second One I think their dad is to and to now. This was their fourth time playing this year. I believe And he beat him. The final Thursday tiebreaker. Roger looked olive thirty eight parts of the tournament. I mean because look at the way he beat the brakes off Novak and then does it come back the next day in like a different player. You know yeah this. This tournament seems to belong to the younger guys now. I think I think it's not a guys getting tired. Yes not entirely surprising but You know since passed a one this insist. He actually won the next finals last year. Right you know. He wins the next game. Finals and twenty eighteen wins the ATP finals and Twenty nineteen in his debut abuse. It's just a that's a huge and very quick rise out for him. It's really interesting. It was steady which I'm very. I'm very glad about because because you know. He started climbing at the like in the summer of last year during that running Canada and then he wins the the eighty third next-gen finals makes the semi's in Australia. An you know Votes a little bit throughout the throughout the middle of the year that play that fantastic fantastic match with a stand in Paris and I think it was like I think with each loss. He's learned a lot and has has improved and at all that all brought them to to hear last man standing. I wonder if Patrick is already like planning the documentary you know. Is He writing the book already like but is he doing but the two. Because you know that's coming I'll be very interested interested to see how Steph does next year especially you know he has those semifinal the final points to defend Australia so yeah runaway. Healy hit him lead. Hit the ground running and yes I think next year will be as first year like playing with some real like pressure woman to like defend or anything. So we'll see how that goes I am well. He won't win Australia but he he'll do very well. I think yeah I think so. There's only two options for winners in Australia. So should we do the power rankings. I'm doing I did not do any parakeets for the women amend because you know as we noticed from the list that I read Different Lady when every single tournament at this year so there is no reason to do powering for them because nobody has power again On the men side I have Steph city positive number one. Two one robin beating fed in teen to win the title and he argued argued played the matches of the tournament. You have that match with Rafa You know you have some other ones. He played played. Some really good matches. Some really long matches touches During this tournament saw I gotta give it to them Number two I have team. He also tune went around Robin A win over Novak and he beat zero. He looked pretty good that tournament in Low Key maybe should win that the final but even though he didn't play well Federal number three two and went around Robin. Of course I had a great over Novak which was his first win over him since. Like two hundred fifteen I think they said yes since twenty fifteen and I didn't even realize that until the Matt is over that's crazy longtime I mean well okay. So then we have to take into account that twenty sixteen You know he took all that time off so really. It's more like three years instead of four but even still raising crazy longtime sometime especially if you guys two guys who have both been at the top of tennis for that entire time and they played so often he's yeah that's kind of crazy Number four I actually have Rafa he beat staff like again like we said one of the matches of the tournament and he was involved in two other really great matches with Medvedev and I don't know why that there anyway but he was involved in some great matches to this tournament. He competed well might have been a little scratchy on his tennis but it competed well and then like we said he went to Davis Cup in to curb business so good on him right in the year and then number five I I have no vacuum. And that's just filler. So there's my five yup can't argue with it okay. So another a couple of new segments to add her at the end These were mostly Donald Idea. Okay so he was like we should do robberies of the decade and then while I was taking my notes I accidentally didn't match the decade. So then I had to do both interesting comparing list. You Wanna I for rivalry matches. We'll do Kony is in no particular order. I just you. You know listed some great matches that remember the top of my head We got of course we. We talked about this earn Venus Versus Co beatable Wimbledon. Two thousand fourteen the whole when that one five seven seven six seven five stupid. Were quite incredible. Tennis from start to finish that match Casinos we talked to are not being Serena defeating Beka at Wimbledon. Twenty fifteen and also Serena defeating Biegel at the US Open Find One thousand twelve six two two six five. I remember that match so clearly that a comeback act in the final set three five. I can watch that match anytime anytime and my guess still like get a little bit nervous the plays out. It's just like I can't believe I can't believe she did Also from the US. Open to Viga beating Maria in the semi that almost forgot about that match. But that's a that's like the one math between those it's too I can still sit and like watch highlights in enjoy. They they were they were all. I were Pile up over Kerber Kerber at the Australian Open in two thousand eighteen. Nine seven in the third match was insane that that might be my favorite nine Williams match of like at least the past like five years. It was It was very good I was. I was very impressed with the way ladies pulled together at the end of that tournament. You know produce that that good tennis From Wimbledon Two thousand eleven and a half Venus over chrome eight six in the third. You know in retrospect I can look at it in appreciated. Ah during that match I was losing my mind. I was so mad. 'cause that's crumbles. Really just she was sticking she was sticking with being in a way that I just thought she shouldn't have been hitting winners everywhere was crazy pissing me off of course ahead. Schiavone overcomes nets of DOS during eleven. Sixteen fourteen in the final said Venus overtake available at the US. Open in two thousand seventeen seventy six in the third that one and I have concert over BECA JR at Wimbledon two thousand seventeen ten eighty third. That match was fantastic. And I can't stand Joel concert candor. I was tearing for decades so hard patch but that was a that was fantastic. I was glad I actually said that because I wasn't going to women's matches of the decade. We have some that match okay so also minor in no particular order also did not write down scores so yeah I have two thousand twelve Olympics final and I know the blowout. I don't care that's it was on the world stage. Everybody saw everybody remembers it. K- bone huge It's it's gotta be up there. You know I Have Twenty Sixteen Wimbledon round three Venus Venus over Kasatkina. That crazy ass match. That's a couple of days and they were on and off the core and Oh yeah rain and everything I forgot it. It started raining like as soon as I got match point. He couldn't believe it right. I have the Tuna Sixteen Olympics. Final League over Kerber. I just put this down because once again girl Monica. Thank you so much odd you know. Even if you never anything again for the rest of your girl you had to do that day and we appreciate it so much. No correal twenty. Fifteen Wimbledon Quarterfinals Serena over as a rank We talked about earlier today. Dozen eleven went around to Venus Genus over data crime yet. Two Thousand Eleven Australian Open Round. Four Schiavone Coups Nitsa two thousand twelve years soap and final serene over as Aranka twenty eighteen Australia semifinals. How defeating Kerber? We have all those in common 2017. Fridge BA- final hop over Stevens. I really enjoyed that match up if they play well and I don't. I don't watch a lot of finals. That don't have Williams in them but I watched that when they play. Well Yeah that was good twenty. Fourteen French Open Round Three coups nets of over convinced. VITIM available Dash. It was crazy. Oh my goodness that was a good match. Girls are striking the ball whose nestle was defending for her life as usually she only does against the Williams but that day. She decided that she was going to do it. Against Patrick. She WanNa lose the pitcher that day. No that was that was a great hatch was very impressive and then of course twenty four team around through Kavita over Venus also have some album mentioned cheated twenty twelve Australian in semi final as a Rinca defeating clijsters. Good Yeah Twenty. Twelve Olympic. Semi Final Serena defeating rankles so everybody always talks about the final over. The doper but Serena I thought actually played better in the semifinal donald versus as a Ranko who was number in the world at the time so that was just as big a deal. Even though people didn't think it was Twenty Thirteen Financial Pacific File Serena defeating Irani. One of the best matches ever played aber. I don't care if it's a blowout. We put it out as one of the best matches ever in the history of this sport point blank and the periods and then of course my last honorable mention is the two two thousand ten Australian around two in defeating dementia. But it was a straight-sets match but it was closed in him. Girls was striking that ball. Okay okay so those were high quality and I had to put them out as well I got. I have two more than I overlooked on my list of the two thousand fifteen Australian jangle final Serena over Sheriff straight-sets down. It was fantastic and it was really. It was fantastic. It's here I can't stay and that crackhead but I give it to what she was saying. She said it was lights out And also the Over share with US opened in two thousand four hundred also event that one in a moment moments I enjoyed very much. Okay onto the men side. Lord this means list Chile uh-huh okay. I have these two thousand twelve Australian Open Final Novak over raw for that was high quality raw. Fish should have won. It was a very high quality five-setter twenty thirteen Australian Open round. Four Novak feeding feeding stand named Uis was hitting that day Also really really good match twenty. Thirteen rich open semifinals Rafa over Novak between Thirteen Wimbledon final. Murray over Novak. Now this one not really so so much. Based on quality but based on importance you cannot leave out andy. Murray winning woman for the first time in seventy whatever a number of years at the time so That was really huge. Deal not just for this decade but for the entire sport twenty seventeen Australian Open final fedor over Rafa high quality. Probably one of their only high-quality demanded in this decade. I want a Raffle to win that one too but fed his dry. Tony Eighteen moment. City finals Novakova Rafa high-quality. Sit there Twenty fifteen French Open final. Stand over Novak when my favorite matches Stan. When he gets in the mood will literally hit anybody off the court especially Novak You'RE GONNA hate me for this one but I put it down. Two thousand isn't twelve Wimbledon round to Rossall defeating offer. That was disgusting Kay We're going to move on. I'm not going to elaborate Tanaz and eleven French Open the semi finals Federer over Novak. That in my opinion was the match that year Fed that we had to do because we would have been talking about Novak Slam year otherwise hoof to Gut And then twenty seventeen Australia in semifinals. Donald Rafa defeating Dimitrov. Either guy could win. That man was very very high quality right to the end and then I have two honorable. Mentions these are actually. We both Davis Cup matches to sixteen Davis Cup. Semifinals Murray over delco very high quality. And then the Tuna Sixteen Daves go final dapo defeating Chile. J- Those are two very very very very very good matches from the dudes and that's my or list we got. We got to be that match on this one as well. I have Jovic thirteen semi's Nine seven and that one that mass was high quality high drama. It was everything I will. Never forget that net touch it was yes it was a moment. So behold I joke was over in the Dallas during twenty flow. That Matt's lasted forever. Even though it was on you know quote unquote only seven five in the fifth. It was very long and Ross definitely should have won that missed or hand in that. That said that's just I replayed over and over and over. Oh it it still haunts me. Both those guys like cramping up during the trophy ceremony. Big Eight from chair so he kasit down was it wasn't saying they were they. Were battling it battling out air hard that that night Jovic over Dow Wimbledon twenty eighteen. Ten eight in the that one high quality should win that as well I have a stand over sixty five mental twenty nineteen eight eight six in the fifth. That was that was antastic match. Of course I was losing my mind for Steph but you know I was. I was happy for stand to no finally pulled that out in May to another flame. Quarter have Jovic overstaying strain twenty thirteen twelve all ten in the fifth Jovic over Federal Wimbledon twenty fourteen the Dow over Dmitrov Australian Open twenty seventeen And I- job is over Tokyo. Two thousand thirteen than match was phenomenal right. I was losing my mind. DOCO that day and he did he did get it done. But it was very high quality tennis very high quality of so Then I have no doubt over Del Pobre twenty eighteen. That match was also very good. Always find yourself in. The conversation hopefully can come back and get back every time he's out he makes it back to the top take top ten. Hopefully he's been hitting only on clay but he's been hitting so hopefully he he comes back can get back to top form in Dili does best. Yes I have a Nishikori of around at. US Open twenty fourteen matches like the latest finish in us. Open history that mess over like four. Am or something like that. It was very late I have guessed gay over Stand Wimbledon Twenty fifteen that was eleven nine in the fifth. I think s when WanNa make the semi's that you were here was a twenty fifty semi. Oh you do my God and I have a job. It's over. Murray Australian Open Twenty twelve seventy five in the fifth. Civilised somebody at us on twitter and tell us how many of those matches did not include the big three they say for the record. We told ourselves we were only going to do slam slam matches his for anybody says Oh you missed this Miami match or whatever and ain't nobody got half antibiotic outside of that we're going through the the whole decade like that. We're just going to go too much. You know we don't We have late lives jobs. Shit yeah well I guess onto the rivalries of the decade back. I don't have many Them Man I have Rafa and Novak and Ah yes probably my top robbery of the decade. They've played countless number of times in the head. The head is pretty close. Is Twenty eight to twenty six in favor of Novak. That's a lot of matches and most of them in this decade. It's crazy awesome other ones. I Have Roger Novak. 'cause they played quite a few times in this decade. Most of the match have gone to Novak back but even still They played a lot and they played in quite a few slam finals to especially in the last five years. Or so I put down Stan in Novak Only because Stan knows how to beat Novak in important moments and he's done it a few times some of them down and then I put down Murray Novak because They played a lot especially in Australia again. Novak has come at the top of all these last three that I said but they played a lot so but basically just Rafa Novak. That's that's the robbery of the decade right there. Yup I got for my man robberies I have a Nissan joke. Which of course and Jovic in Murray care you know job as Murray played God knows how many times this decade most of them. I feel like the Dame Australian Open but Yeah they they they put some good matches this a similar plans and sometimes they're matched up to watch but You know they played a lot. Nothing that's one. That's been one of the key robberies zone of the decade and of course everything you said about vacuum Rafeh right on the women's side I have Serena Viga. Viga has still only beaten Serena. What three or four times? Three four. Four Yep K okay The last time was twenty sixteen Indian Wells but I don't know she brings. Good tennis out of SERENA INDUSTRY WAKES UP SERENA's game a lot of times Because she's so good off the ground and she doesn't necessarily Bring everything that Serena brings but she throws a lot of whispering brings back at her. I'll say And she does it very well They played some very high quality matches in this decade and they play quite a lot in like twenty eleven to twenty fourteen period. Played a lot more asu. Muslims came in this decade I think the only played four times in the two thousand and the rest of it. Oh eight Australia on nine. Austrailia nine Miami on nine Wimbledon Yep four times Also have Venus Kava on here. It's pretty much always going to three sets with may play it's probably going to be high quality And they match up. I think very well against each other. It's it's good tennis They haven't played that much. I don't think but at the same time when they do play it's going going to be a cracker. You know And then I put Serena Hall on here which is painful to. Yeah but I did it anyway Most of their matches outside of the immeasurable one this year. are pretty predictable. It's going to be Serena winning the first set and then turning into a whole bundle of nerves in the second and letting Mona Hit forehand lion like she does another come in and then she loses the second set and then it's a close third. It's just the way their matches go Yup that I have a basically the same robbers except for didn't put us at an even bigger and being over of incompatible that was that was like the first one that I wrote down because their matches are. It's there's not just that there are three sets their quality matches every single time. They they bring out the best in each other for whatever reason but it's always very entertaining to watch their most recent being this year in Indian Wells Venus coming through grew six hundred thirty net. One No business when they match I mean honestly name a better fighter name better competitor. Yeah that's the that's the decade or over damn decade. We are now in the twenties the new twenty s Jesus in my mind. I'm still at that stage. Where like the upcoming players in Ireland the same age like So it's a little bit tough to handle. Wow Yeah it's been in a very very interesting AK at least nothing like this. I think the next big game is going to be going to the one that wanted to really watch closely. I'm still not sure where the where the women are going and how things are going to you. I know fall into place for them in the next ten years but I think for the man Six passing team. I think that's going to be the next. I big head to head. I see them playing a lot over the next several years how does dominate twenty forest fire. I won't say he's twenty. Five zero will be thrown thrown in that mix to eventually you know he'll get it together and start making deep in these these big events and I think he'll he'll get but he's still very young but Hopefully hopefully next year he starts. You're in Tuenup Bill. On at least how he ended this year. You know making a semi that eighteen finals because this year has been pretty pretty pretty crazy poor from him. I'm interested just to see how they do in amendment two in Australia because is I think it's a really good time bright now if they can take advantage of Nevada's not at his healthiest stories. Best I You know main problem in Australia. Australia would be a a perfect time for them to make a real move. We'll see. I was winning hoping anyway. So did a hammer andy. Murray Andy Murray wouldn't that be fantastic. No other options are available. I will show out if any Americans say he deserves while we don't say he deserves because because he has one win but I mean it'd be great for him to win an Australian Open title after these finals lost there. So we'll see eh I would. I would like to see him win. More though at least saying and I have to say I'm a little bit. You're not gonNA like this but I'm a little bitter about Rafa you're ending world number one I am not Nola Fam- clearly but I wanted him to year in number one because I want him to get all those weeks added on so that way. He can very easily passed. Rogers tally next year for weeks at number one. I mean it's probably going to happened anyway but I just want it to happen sooner rather than later so I can laugh about it. I'm I'm very glad dollars ended number one. I think this is his fifth fifth year. End Number one so Yeah I'm I'm looking forward to the next few months of tennis. See how how they hold up. 'cause I mean these these do they've been playing. They played all year like Rosa. Just finished his seats joke. Efficient fedor burned out in. London is an interesting turn around. They have to feel like like their lives are just on a never ending loop because I mean this is not a break. There's no off season. There's just like they're we're just GONNA jump right back into it it's gotta be pretty crazy well It's farewell for us for the the rest of the twenty nineteen like like. I said we'll be back in just a few weeks anyway for twenty twenty literally right on the corner but You know having Thanksgiving and all that everybody says happy holidays Yeah I'm ready to go. Eat No for real. Be Sure you know over the holidays. to follow us on all of our social media Our twitter is at Ponytails my personal twitter's hey steady baby. I'm at I know yeah tweet us. Let us know what's going on in your lives in stuff the questions or anything you want to say feel free. 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