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TEU  O REINO, O PODER E A GLRIA - SRIE ORAO DO PAI NOSSO 10/10 #031

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TEU O REINO, O PODER E A GLRIA - SRIE ORAO DO PAI NOSSO 10/10 #031

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In India, Some Students With Low Test Scores Can Buy Their Way Into College

NPR's Business Story of the Day

04:32 min | 1 year ago

In India, Some Students With Low Test Scores Can Buy Their Way Into College

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from Google from Connecticut California from Mississippi to Minnesota. Millions of businesses are using Google tools to grow online learn. How Google is supporting businesses in your state at Google dot com mm slash economic impact? Maybe you remember the Varsity Blues Scandal a few months ago. This is a bunch of parents paid money to get their kids into top U._S.. Universities something similar is happening in India too but the outcome is different. They're N._p._R.'s Lauren. Prayer has been visiting a college campus tonight and she's got this story. It's a gorgeous campus like the palm trees and I feel like it looks like Beverly Hills. Do Fifty again buzzer on teaneck bond. Sally is in eighteen year old freshman minute S._R._M.. One of India's elite engineering colleges this was his dream school but he didn't do well on the entrance exam. I didn't prepare that well. Why didn't you prepare? I like sports. I didn't like absurdities. He wanted to study computer science here but he got rejected so his parents found another way the paid his way in there was my father's friend who was in contact with the and we had to pay a bit more amount. And not just a bit they actually paid more than double tuition. His parents had to take out a bank loan. I was happy and saddened booth voice that I was able to get in but happy that my parents they love me. Do you feel a bit of pressure on your shoulders. Just like I will do good better than before. The reason ten knock is willing to tell me all this is that what his family did is perfectly legal in India. It's called management quota. A certain number of spots in the freshman class. Usually about fifteen percent percent are reserved for the college management to allocate at its discretion hence the management quota in theory it could mean awarding seats to underprivileged students but in practice it means selling them and this happens at most private engineering. Engineering and medical schools across India and they want to provide quality so they want a little extra money from somewhere S. S. Mantha used to oversee all of India's technical colleges. He says that unlike the Varsity Blues Scandal Dole where some of the illicit payments went to sports coaches in India the money go straight to the school so they can start more courses. They can build a better laboratories. They can probably bring foreign faculty but there is his room for corruption prices vary and there's a growing army of middlemen seeking fuel office the state of the art facilities and all new garage Mishmash Shuffles through glossy. Brochures he's an education consultant who helps families by spots at these schools what we are doing. We had a bridge we are acting bridge between collies and the barren fossil work Ulsan visa hefty man adorned with ooh jewelry across his desk is param Hans Kumar a desperate father trying to get his youngest son into a top engineering school all parents they needed. They want their child to get admission in campuses and all all but the child is not in that caliber then there's a fallback option. Not everyone thinks this is a good idea. The Booty Patel Studies the economics of education is going to affect the overall. Bill and contributed demoralizing people who are disciplined genuine hardworking Patel says this is part of a wider trend India's economy has been booming more youth can afford college. New Schools are opening every every day and existing ones are getting more selective but is schools. Try to profit from this boom. Something is getting lost. Patel says no vision that is no commitment to repairing the citizens of tomorrow. They'll see it as a commerce. I back on the sprawling campus kinnock. The freshman says he's confident that students like him with average test scores but affluent parents will always find their way regarding India. It's obvious we will get in mission in many movement.

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Talking with T-Bird: Jerri Manthey

Rob Has a Podcast

1:38:34 hr | 3 months ago

Talking with T-Bird: Jerri Manthey

"If you stay here S. Live well, never be. A. As. Weird. SOCK in with her. Steve. Oh. Steve Steeper. Yeah that's right. Talking with T. Bird is back. I'm rob. Sister Nino. Great Show today three times, survivor legend Jerry Mantha will join us for this edition of the show where survivors that you want to hear from get recruited to come on the shell. By this woman here she is Great Theresa T. Bird Cooper t bird how're you? Doing, good how are you doing just doing very well a little bit. Weary, after a long week goes away. In New York. I went. Coast coast. Since last time we've talked and here we are back with more talking not bird. Don't forget. You had a birthday last. We did have a birthday last week. Yes. Cow. How was your birthday? Happy Birthday yes. Thank you. It was fine. Fine Yeah Yeah Yeah Well the the three time survivor legend that we're talking today has just had a birthday as well and she has just turned fifty. I can't even. I cannot even believe that white in Australia fighting all stars, heroes vs bill. Is Ma. September. Yeah last month I can't believe it just turned fifty. Yeah. Three time legend. She's very, very first female villain. Very first one, the original Jeff probst called the original black widow. Eight. Character can't wait to talk to Jerry. Tonight very excited to have Jerry on the PODCAST. It's been a minute she used to be on the podcast. A bit back way back when but it's been a few moments since we've talked to Jerry on the podcast. Wait to see what she's been up to and I'm telling you after researching her and looking back she's done a lot of stuff rob way before she graced us with survivor Australia. So yeah. The last time I talked to Jerry on the podcast I think it was twenty twelve. So it has been eight years since we've heard from Jerry on rod is a podcast about that. Odd. That's that's I'm excited and I know the fans are going to be so excited to hear from our to be. When you all school, you've got to absolutely one hundred percent have Jerry Mantha in the top five. Definite Scher for Devonshire. Okay and. What are you up to t-bird? Let's see I'm doing a little bit of flying, and as you know, I was all excited about the braves. Hopefully. Go into the world series last week. That Kind fell. Dot Com fell apart. Oh well, there's always next year always next year. So. Yeah why going to? All right well then we had fun run. This is the fun run Next year burn. Trying to be loaded, but what are you going to do? All right t-bird. So before we get to Jerry Mantha, let me just take a moment and thank our sponsor for this episode of the Podcast, and this is one of my favorites. Bob's naturals Bob's naturals believes that feeling and perform at your best should be possible at any age whether you're forty fifty or sixty or beyond. 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UBS naturals DOT COM. All right. We got Jerry Online, t-bird take it away. In Two Thousand Twelve Jeff probst told entertainment weekly quote. They're just as many colorful women characters in survivor history for whatever reason were loaded with interesting guys in quote. Well, our guest today absolutely does not fall into that category in seasons sixteen survivor Micronesia. We watched the black widow per gade using the men to their advantage and then discarding each of them when they were done. But rewind to season to the Australian outback, the highest ranked of all the forty seasons with an average thirty, million plus viewers per episode where post has described our guest today as the quote original black widow she was guilty pleasure she was complicated she was straightforward. Honest stubborn seductive at times abrasive flirtatious manipulative an independent. She was our first female villain our love to hate villainous that has been described much the same as evil bond girl. But don't for a minute think that her straightforward and honest approach to the game has not been appreciated by her many fans. We quickly learned she wasn't playing a quote character she was playing herself it was a game, but she brought her real life self into the game as she no apologies for that. She has commented that of the three says she has played survivor all stars season eight was so horrific have blocked out most of it. She says heroes vs villains. Season Twenty, which she said was great because she got David at the game bottle for had the family visit and once of individual and reward challenges. But her favourite was Australia because of the environment and knowing they were trail-blazing. We would soon see more of our guest on the cover of playboy in September two, thousand, one, this former hooters girl barred in stood guard Germany has done it all from bartender to appearing in music videos for Def Leppard and faith hill appearing on the reality shows. Blind date the surreal life to name only a few this beautiful amazing fascinating. Fiercely independent intriguing woman will tell you. She has never been bored a day in her life has recently turned fifty and she has not slowed down a private chef jewelry designer gardner wine tour guide photographer audiobook near writer producer host actress who enjoys making and selling soup throwing dinner parties, and is continuously tackling one home improvement after the other and is mom to the love and her life her precious Shitsu little rocky girl. I proudly introduce to you this larger than life. One of. What you see is what you get captivating alluring, real authentic unique. Who has played an impressive total of eighty nine days on survivor introduced to the RHA fans my friend Jerry Matthey. `Wow. Lee Crap. What kidding music the music. Choices. Wasn't that I wasn't ready. Okay. Here we go. Explained to the audience while you're playing that. Okay. So Jerry I did I, did I get everything right in your intro sometimes I get a little creative enough pull out things that aren't completely correct but was everything correct. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sure. I do A. Tact Tibor I think you really love that Jeff probst quote that you found. Good Workman here. Eating quote. Mean, I couldn't help it I. I was researching you Jerry and I saw that quote I'm thinking she got to be kidding me I, mean this is perfect for her talking to Gerry because Jerry. You have you have divided us from the beginning now. In Faith Hill's video piece of my heart. Yeah. Yeah. That was. Back in nineteen, ninety, four, I think. So. I was fascinated jerry for the last two weeks ever since you've you had contacted me said, yes, we'll do this I'm. I'm on. I have been listening to that song as I'm researching you in my husband Glenn his says, please stop with that song. I love it. So anyway. So excited about that song that she's been talking about a week about, did you the video for that? Did you see the t bird? At Tomor, to a Tomor to. Sit Video. You into video. I played her best friend and a little bit of information background story on that. Particular job I booked it was the first time in my whole life somebody. said to me when I walked in the door, we need to straighten your hair. And it was Orlando Florida, which is incredibly humid and next thing you know I had the biggest air. On the set, it was not a little. Yes. The plot of the video is like Faith Hill is. Like outdoor cafe, and then there you are at the table with her as she there's this suitor that's trying to. Get her to leave the like Nice Brunch you're having. Yeah. Exactly and she chose her girlfriends over a guy. It's a great idea. and. Watching it and your hair now you just expired. Wa your hair looked. So long out they kept thinking is I know that's Jerry but I don't think of our hair. But they straightened it. So it was that long yet. It went well, it was really long back then to important I had my hair down to my but which is just ridiculous. It was eighty. We're actually ninety dollars ninety. which felt like the eighties to me now. Jerry how have you been oh man. It wow, that is that's a loaded question nowadays isn't it? it's been a really interesting. Situation here in California The fires. As a pandemic and the election and Blah Blah Blah, it's pretty crazy. It's a crazy time to be alive for sure but I have been. Keeping myself very busy like Tibor with all my. House projects. And actually I'm working as a private chef right now. So When working fulltime. Yeah. Another one of my my skills. Yeah I've been staying busy and pretty happy. You know as long as I don't dig too deep into the news I do pretty good. Same. So are you a baseball fan jerry what about the dodgers I don't really care about baseball don't. Say That I remember ever hearing that you're a big baseball fans burned not everybody's like you t bird but the braves but you know what? I'm one of those weird people that I love going to actual baseball games but I usually go like the here we go to the San Francisco giant. You know back when we could and my favorite part of the game was eating I mean there's so much good food at that stadium. I didn't even know who is winning or losing time I was so busy like you know writing reviews about the crabs sandwich in. The crowd. I love the food at a baseball game. And so you Mitch and being a private chef, and now you're talking about the food at a baseball game. What is your favorite meal to cook? Are Your most requested meal as a private chef. I get asked that all the time I I make I took everything I. Just I like Good Food I've been I'm very fortunate. I've travelled a lot. I've eaten a lot of different types of food and. I could people requesting all kinds of different. Types of Food Italian Indian I know whatever I can make it. All I don't think there's any. Particular special favorite. On My special. My specialty style I would say is just rustic comfort food I found a niche with that actually. Current. Client is an elderly man and I'm just making food that makes him feel like he's getting hugged on the inside and it. It makes them happy and that's really why I'm doing what I do. I just like to make people happy with food and right now we own you. Can you some examples of what would you say is? RUSTIC comfort food. Gosh. All right like Mac and cheese. Pot Roast with vegetables roasted potato I. Love Doing steaks like a nice thick juicy Bonin rebuy chuck. with like a team, Cherry sauce and. I like roasting vegetables a lot especially right now it's nice to have the oven onto. But What else Lasagna I make killer lasagna. Yeah. Just things that make you feel like you got hugged on inside soups I mean I'm clearly I have a thing was to I started a stupid business. In January and it took off that we went it was so insane I couldn't keep up with the orders I had to stop doing it to like figure out how to expand the business, and that's when I got the private chef job so. I love making soup. Well, what's your special needs to? Yeah yeah. I- minestrone I like to cook with whatever seasonal basically I have a killer garden on my property that I live on and I'll go out there and just pick a bunch of vegetables and come inside and make. You know dinner. Wow I. just I like eating foods. Yeah. Yeah, you should. Own. Food. Yes. So you're also gone tour God's so you're tour guide Jerry. So you know with all this delicious Food Cook you are pairing this food with your favorite one, right Now. I live in now. Golly. That's what we do here. And because I'm I'm actually a fulltime private chef right now, I'm not doing wine tours but I did do those or three years. it was a great situation where I got to learn about Napa Valley and what makes place so. Unique and amazing and why the winds here still unbelievable. On learn more about wind. Then I could have ever imagined earnestly more than I should probably know. I can just simply drink a glass of wine anymore I'm ruined. So what what type of gone are we going to pair with that delicious steak that you're going to cook for us? Which one are you going to cheat? You'RE GOING TO PICK Well I mean the obvious Goto is a good cap I'm in cab country here but I like cabs Bronx I enjoy a good mall back. With be my top picks rare steak. When you are. When you're doing the on tour guides, the people recognize you as they gre. They do. Absolutely. Insane but I, think that was probably. The hardest perver- subtypes. Because I'd be trying to talk about line and the region and people are like so tell me on survivor. I'd I answered all their questions but I always took it right back to the wine, but I was therefore. and then it was fun on the days when nobody did recognize me and I spent the whole day. Just. Being wine tour guide but the thing is everybody in the valley. Knows me pretty well, it's a very, very small community here. So a lot of them would actually bussed me by about the third winery someone would say you guys do know your tour guide Jerry from survivor, right? They'd be like, Oh, my God. I think I actually got better tips. I think when I when they would know. Yeah Yeah. I would say I would think so. So as so jerry, you just mentioned in this was one of the things I was. Looking at in reading about you. That people recognize you and I would imagine you would get asked the exact same three or four questions. Every single Tom is is that right? Is that true? Yes. I I bet. We probably all get the same three questions. Off Was it really. Did they see this up on the side where'd you go to the bathroom? Yeah. Okay. So rob was thinking robbed, tell me the two or three questions she thinks she would have been asked the most because I'll tell you the ones I think she probably got the most are the questions that I think that Jerry gets all airy. Yes to okay. This is one. Are you in Colby friends? Who Cooks the s rice you are Kaethe is did cal really have a beef jerky. Reports hut really that bad. Those are the four. Yes, good listening. Every every interview that I read Jerry ever interview I read that you have done those for the questions everybody kept asking you over and over and over it. Yep. That's pretty much it. Yeah. The count, the beef jerky thing is still. It's amazing. How many times especially in the Internet people are fascinating. That's needed with that question. I don't know if it's maybe because there's a whole new generation of people that just went back and started watching the survivor. I. Know Yeah. I remember the first time that I ever got the chance to meet you. I was very excited about that but I'm pretty sure that that was also one of the first things that I wanted to know also. They. Still. I still tell the same story because it's true. It's. Yeah, he had it. Percents. Jeff years later came out in an article and said, I, actually do believe Jerry was telling the truth about that. Yeah yeah that really upset me. Like why couldn't you've said that when the world turned against me In the most. Most people would ask you about you and Cobi Cue, the music rob to the music. Hebrew. Song. Hey everybody else is gonNA love it. When finish this they're going to be watching you and working out to it. So. Gosh surgeons take. Back it is. The second time. Well, you have got. To play every every time all three times you've played colby played with you and you have to love the fact that the the last two times you played youth finished ahead of Kobe. Hell Yeah I did. Really. Pretty, satisfying. So Jerry I mean I know you. It was difficult for you. I mean a lot of people apply one time and it'll be inexperienced. Don't really want to relive you play three times did each experience get better for you or did you just say you know what? I'm going out there I don't care what the fans say I'm going to be who I am. How did you handle that? From social media. Well I think you know you call in your intro to me the the first time I played. We'll always be the best just because. It was so such an unknown and. I felt like. The other times I played I was constantly. wincing like a child who'd been beat. You know like waiting for the next blow to come out me and you know when you don't know what you're getting into. It's I don't know it was just felt more. Fun There was actually a lot of fun going on the first time that I've played, which never made the show unfortunately but. you know the second time I've played that that was really bad horrible horrible Ren and just recently spoke with Lex. We're still really good friends off to him a lot. And we kinda relived some things that. We both experienced. He's still has a lot of stuff that he. needs to get off his chest, and so he he shared some stories of me. I. I didn't know yet about stuff that was going on. So that was really tough and then Nada. GRUZA. Lynn go no. No, it was. The allstars was really brutal in so many ways. I mean. Mother. Nature a long list just the. Intensified, backstabbing because we all knew each other I mean. You know way back then Robert Stephen were you what number was that six. Six. Yeah. You remember how tiny our family was by. The different deal keyboard season number where you on. Three with legs. With legs. Yes. Jerry so Jerry. I. I know that you you talked about with I'm just mentioned it because you just mentioned lax and I don't want to miss this opportunity You has said somewhere that your Dream Team for. Your All Star Your Dream Team was big Tom and LEX. The dream. Team. I actually talked. Okay. So I did talk to big Tom Today and Lex vay about you know it and so I thought you might find this interesting especially with what you were saying about Lex but I saw big Tom Likes to keep it simple. He said that he'd rather have jerry than sliced bread something of quantum jair otherwise said something the corn Brad Jerry is my corn bread and beans. I didn't know how to take her. She's so pretty but she is real. We ended up being good friends I love the women t-bird Jerry is a capital W. woman. Dallas Big Tom. Abbas victim. Listen to what? Set it in I. Think it pretty much expresses a lot of what you're saying in the emotional toll i. know it took on both of Y'all. LEX said that I mentioned in old school days. We didn't a lot in common with the other players, but we could relate to each other. Neither one of us wants to be told what to do we want rollover or back down and we can't be controlled LEX said Jerry doesn't suffer fools. One hundred percent or own person player that can't be coerced or manipulated. She is fiercely independent. We found comfort at each other as villains people love to hate we just played hard but were universally despised. So we gravitated to each other. We've found comfort in each other as villains. Again, the all star finale at Madison Square Gardens lex said he was arm in arm with you Jerry. He said it was two of us against the world and their bond from here on out is forever sealed. He said, and this is the nicest thing. Probably anybody's ever said about anybody else he said Jerry's moral compass in her heart is incorruptible. Going going. Yup Her moral compass in her heart is incorruptible and going against her core for a million dollars or any amount is not an option. It's true. It's true and wow, I. Wow. Both of them. GonNa. Make me cry Yeah. So amazing, I just love the two of them so much I where. You know me it's so crazy. Yeah people you know you guys I can't even remember. Even I know. Well, LEX. Ethan. EMBIID Tom. So you fly with my you got to play with three. Guys Jerry. And we never got to play together. No we did not unfortunately but. Never, saw never say die Jerry. you never know this game survivor, but I'll tell you something right now they better hurry up because at some point, I'm going to do that. Shit. To worry about that. Well you WANNA. Things hurt. Not to. Do a lot of home projects. But what do you do? What should beauty regimen? What are you? What are your beauty secrets to share with you know? Fifty years old you're still you're still stunning. Goodness. For, from anybody. I? Won't blessing. You know what lessons more I think that's probably the best advice to give someone else who turning fifty. Just, take care of your soul comes from the inside. Stay active and I don't mean by like exercise I'm talking like get outside and I just I just taught myself how to lay brick and flagstone and got out here and built myself a patio. You know whoa that kind of stuff makes me feel really good. Yeah. Got Some really fun time lapse. Videos building the patio incredible agit. Ghana Ground Yeah Crazy Jerry We were training some messages back and forth back in. February when season forty was going to get started I'm curious to know if you kept up with watching season forty play out. I watched the whole thing. Yeah Right. Could we get away away from you? All right. Let me think about this. Well first off in the people that you know you had played with from way back when. A lot of old school players turned out to not do so great that surprise you. I was surprised how none of them seem to be able to change their game? You know the newer players are much more malleable and they adapt really fast and they. They. Think like twenty ahead. I think some of US older. Old Old school players. Live in the moment really focused on relationships and all that stuff which I personally. That's what I loved about the before all these immunity idol then twists and turns and stuff I loved. Seeing people trying to get along with each other and getting know each other and. You know that stuff was really important. Nowadays, it's just not and that that really bummed me out a lot. I. I don't Gosh. It was a really hard to watch too because I was so close to. Being on it. But I mean you know? If I would have been the winner of season twenty. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah it was just really hard to watch the same. Game over and over again from a lot of the old school players But Roy good season there were so many twists and turns but. Yeah it was hard to why are you? Were you disappointed that Tina? Did Not make it from your season. Australia. Diaper Tino is gonNA be on it. Yeah. I was bummed I. in fact, I called her and she said that she didn't even get asked Yup I remember correctly. Yeah which I was. Very surprised about. Yeah strange the strange how they ended up picking they pack but. I don't know I just can't hear you I guess one of the one of the things that really bothered me with everybody. That's there who just turned forty it was like, oh, well, now that I'm forty no old I was like shutting your high home forty s not old. Old I think they all had kids. That's why they felt. Oh, see I don't have kids and I don't have kit. That's five fifteen. So young to me, there's my your takeaway from beauty advice when kids. For US rob. Fifty with no kids must be like twenty five. It's amazing. Not. Married. And don't have a boy smart quarterly single free agent I'm so happy right now smart. Yeah. Oh my gosh a free agent. Gosh so We need to tell we need to ask Jerry because Jerry's a producer. She does all this kind of stuff jerry what do you think or your pitch about a show a reality show called dinner for six? What did you think about it? A some database is GonNa be the matchmaking Okay 'cause I want you involved in it So in plus you're not involved anybody right now. So this could be a win win in every direction. Dinner for sips. Okay. Do you know Katie Gallagher from Palau she was the final two IMP allow with Tom Westman. Right, she has come up with this idea where you get six people that are not helped me out with this rob sixth single people you're trying to match, make them and you have dinner for six weeks. We've gotTa have a chef which you fit perfectly for that got. In charge of the dinner for dinner for six, she could be well, we were involved. Yes. We've got some earlier if I said that, right so she can be the. Mona one person. The Somali yes. Thank you for helping with that and then she can see the single people come in and if we can match her up at the same Tom Rob. What are you saying, Jerry? Dear. Lord. Algiers. Dinner for. Jerry. Could you help us? He was setting the menu for this was Katie's Idaho Katie's to a matchmaker, and that I was saying the sounded like a great idea for a reality show of they would take like three single guys and three single ladies and then get them out to go to dinner together with the hopes of making some potential matches because it would be less awkward than a first date because you would have a few different people to sort of be like sorta like keep the conversation going less awkward pauses and the idea was that you could potentially get. A couple of one or two couples formed from the dinner from sex. God it. Are Three three at least one. Somebody, but probably also freighting people are competing for the same person. It's great. Jerry and Jerry. The balancers, dancers, and yeah, the balances are already single. We've got the general. For Marquette. So we've got randy with Randy Bailey. Yeah he single. From heroes vs billing. Yes Randy about Sir yes we and then we can have on. To. Wait. Oh I don't know we've got to have to set that up. That up. Jerry number we've got to have your. No we've got to have the hot waiter somebody commented on twitter Emmy Jimmy Havoc on twitter said you gotTA. Have the hot whiter. What do you think about a? Let me think about that for just a minute. Colby. Game. Head. Shot out of a cannon today. Yeah I can tell. You not. Normal. Very. Excited about this. All right. So Jerry, I'm going to get back when you were talking about almost making it in winning heroes vs villains. So you made it to the final four. So you know you also said somewhere that your Dream Team for heroes vs villains was I believe Sandra and Russell do you remember saying that somewhere? Between team meeting at the. At. The well, just the people that you would. Just, to your dream would be like you said like some big Tom for. Four. All Stars. Never said that. Actually jerk. About what was it like to work with? Russell in terms of being being out there with him was that a positive experience or negative experience. It when one of the most grueling disgusting situations I've ever. Had to really draw deep from within if my my acting skills attendance if I wasn't completely disgusted twenty seven. Does that sum it up for you? Okay. Yeah. Bad. The site what Spectacle Sapna I've never met more difficult person in my life. I. Can Pretty much find redeeming quality about any human being on the planet that I? Encounter. Accept Him. So Yeah boy got quiet Tibor. A. Oh. Okay. So I was going to say a did get a comment from Russell about Jerry and I gotTa tell you. It's gone the other way from the from Jerry's comment about Russell. He says about Jiri I had a lot of fun implying with Jerry Trust more than pretty much everybody in heroes vs balance. If we ever end up on the same track again, I would assure WanNa work with Taro. Slow. So there you know that. That did shows everyone would a great actress I am? Russell's only saying that stuff because he thinks that it might actually happen but there's no way ruffled ever GonNa play survivor. Much of a new vote legal liability Yeah let me ask you about some of the other people from heroes vs villains in terms of how they fared with season forty. Were you surprised to see Sandra end up going out in the way that she did. What on on this last? On on on on on season on Susan. Forty. No I wasn't surprised. I mean. To quit every challenge that everything out so. She already had two million dollars. Why should she stop her? I mean. Using, but from leaving the edge of extinction. Yeah. Yeah. No I would definitely was not surprised about that at all Do you mean in terms of the choice that she made by? That she ended up, trying to get give denise her idol to play to potentially vote Tony out the game. Yeah I I don't know what the hell she was thinking. That definitely, not Sandra's style. You know many long as it's not me is a her. Usual game play, which seems to get her very far in the game. I. Don't know why. Anyone would give someone else. Their idol that's just really to me. Yeah. How? Who you were there with in season eight, and then ultimately part of the group that him out in season twenty were you surprised with how he played in this season? Now, he played the same exact game. He's played every single time. He's ever played survive. He's still manipulative and controlling that he won't let people get up to go to the bathroom without. Accusing. Them of looking for an idol It was really like I said, it was very hard to watch it. It makes me very It triggers me a lot. I will say that just the the level of control that he tries to have over everybody and you can't do that when you're playing with the. WHO Are Savvy and good at the game as was everybody on season forty, and once the part of it stringers you. well, because I've been through it myself with him. You know I remember getting up to go to the bathroom and like someone needs to follow her she doesn't look bridal and I was like Dude I'm I'm I'm taking shovel for reason, nobody needs to follow me and so what if I was looking for an idol? Who who do you think you are like? That kind of stuff is just not. It's not cool on any level. And it's you know it's like throwing your game play out there in front of anybody everybody anyway. I I'm. Paranoid. I, it just. Yeah it's hard to watch. Yeah. What do you think? Rob's downfall not Boston Rob Rob's see what do you think rob's sees downfall was an all stars. Turned get me to do here. I don't know it wasn't honest tribe. That's a good question for rob, see? I don't know what you did. I mean I I did either Jerry to be honest. I mean I think. Intimidating back then everybody was like really scared of you 'cause. Good anyone. That but now everybody knows me they know not them not that intimidating. I mean I wish we would have on the same I would love to work with you. Not. To Mention I. You know. I swear I will never forget that scene where you pretend to be Jeff probst and got everyone to act like a character. And make fun of everybody. That's the kind of stuff that I loved about survivor once upon a time when people take a moment and get really silly and have fun because it's so miserable well, at those moments are so far and few between. Jams. No I was with a group that was very did not really WanNa have fun and I, and I like to joke around and I like to. Play Games and stuff like that. But you know rob can be a little bit sour when when he's out there you know with all due respect your friend amber that she was sort of a very much on the same page is Rob Alicia who you played with as well. She I find her that she was so fun in real life but I was very surprised that when we got out there on survivor she was Also kind of stick in the mud in terms of beings did not want to. have any fun whatsoever and big Tom and sue. Hawk you. Only people that I thought were you know had any sort of like a like a sense of humor and wanted to joke around when we were out there So we were you. This is so crazy. It's been so long you were on Rob Jess Jerry. The day. They put two rods on one tribe. I know that's crazy. was with that. Okay just let me throw this out there. Turning fifty does affect your memory just. Sure. Well. Yeah. That's wow. Well, that's why they got rid of you because rob wanted to. Yeah Yeah I don't think he appreciated that too much either. Oh my that even. Asked. To the worst. In the history of survivor pay the worst Dr Ever and it was. So bad. I mean I am not a quitter and that night of that massive disgusting horrifying storm. I almost quit and I thought we were GONNA die except there was nobody that I could have said, hey, I quit too because the whole crew ran away. Not. Yeah You had a real year on with leg played again. That's what I WANNA know. Why I'm Jerry I'm having so much fun getting to talk to everybody. Play again yeah. It's not like that it's up to me I got to be invited to come back. Never. Invited you back I mean the timing hasn't worked out exactly Jerry. Well Butts help if there isn't. And fees in which everybody's talking about better off. If they bring it back, I don't need to go I'm just be happy if it comes back on TV. Oh. You don't want to play again. I'M NOT DYING TO DO, Jerry? Yeah. Well, I don't blame you I, kind of in that same boat, and in fact, at some point, they wait too long I probably will die trying to do it again. When you're out there or or like try to get you know. Yeah. I'm like eighty years old and they're like, hey, you must legend cheese and be like I. Think you guys waited to our. Thank you guys waited or letter to. Jerry you were. Asked to play, you're asked to play a fourth time blood vs water with your sister right? You were supposed to be on that one. Yes and then my sister got pregnant. Oh? Man. I know, and then they asked me to go on I was married at the time. They asked me to go on with my husband I was like Oh hell no no. There's no I. My private life is my private life. There's no way. I guess maybe if it was a good marriage I would have been like, oh. Yeah. Let's do this. But no. And lex legs told me that he married that he married you guys. He Yeah Yeah. That was. The best party ever thrown honestly my last wedding. Yes I've had several. This is my third it was. An Amazing Party is in the middle of the desert. It was wild west themed everyone dressed in costume. I had my covered wagon out there. It was. Unbelievable. There's a big keg of beer that everybody started drinking when they arrived. So that by the time we actually did the wedding ceremony everybody would. You Know Nice warmed up and Jerry. This was my idea for the theme for survivor forty one when they couldn't the season during the pandemic of just to set up somewhere on some ranch and do a wild west season. Don Art design. Totally, I am yeah. I have all kinds of stuff. How did you decide on LEX being efficient in your wedding? well, because I really do love him to pieces and he was ordained and I was just like. Well. That sounds like a great idea and you know I flew him out there and Also an excuse theme and spend some time with them and I just knew he would get into it and he had him wear like A. Wild. West like a sheriff priests out like a priest out. Wow. I'm telling you it was the best party I've ever thrown. It was just unreal. There's a trampoline right next to where we were doing our vows so that all the kids could hang out. On the trampoline while we were. Giving our vows is hilarious. Shooting. Me You're the Alabama hills. Cool. So Jerry, you're such a public person you you are. I mean you're. You've just said, did you say you've been married three times? Did. You. That is nowhere anywhere. No No. No I think you said it but I mean nowhere there's the research I've done. I finally found a picture of the one guy and then Lek said, well, you know. Officiated her wedding and like that was it. That's the only personal personal stuff ahead on you. So that's a very well kept secret. That was a very well kept secret. Well I I mean, I've been honest about it. I guess people just didn't think it was interesting enough Interesting. Yeah Well Jerry I. Remember The for the first time that I got to meet you. We went to lunch in New York City do you remember any of this? L. My gosh now. Remind you. Always okay. This was back. This was the spring of two, thousand and three and we went we must have gone to like we went to some. It might have been like the Carnegie Deli and we went to. Have Lunch, and it was right after my finale and I went we went to go get get a sandwich and then you got recognized by a very famous TV person. Ryan seacrest was there. And and get this t bird that Jerry said that this she says, she had she knew Ryan seacrest well because they went on a date. June. June. The Carnegie Deli Jess Anker Yeah I don't remember Ryan Secrets being there. That's hilarious. Jess Jeff. All the up fronts we're going on. So he was at the Fox upfront with American, idol and What a week. A good go on a date with than it was before he was a big you know just. Yeah he was on the radio man and he complained one time on the radio is driving home from work and hurt him. But he I'm you know I'm single and you know I just can't meet anybody I'm just so lonely and so I feel at his phone number from. Years before when I first moved to La. In nineteen ninety. Five. I was bartending and he came into the nightclub with his manager and his manager trying to set us up and we were twenty five years the whole. And you know I was like whatever but I had his phone number and so I called him up I was like. Hey. So I just heard you on the radio complaining that you can't find anybody to go on a date with that. Let's go. So. What you do, what was the day? Girl from the Faith Hill Video. Boy. Jerry okay. So Jerry. To just do this is so interesting couple of things. What did you do for your date with Ryan? And in the next part is a three part question that's the first part. The second part is didn't he start dating Julianne is how Julian Huff? From from dancing with the stars, that's the second part and the apart is didn't earn. Ryan seacrest dates now T. Bird No. Date I. Thought they were pretty serious for a while and then didn't you WanNa be dancing with the stars Jerry. Those the three three, four question. Star. Yeah. I tried so hard I like trying to get a hold of. Producers and all kinds of stuff to yeah I wanted to get on that show bad I'm kicking but in. Again. I wrote that. When did you get on after when after Australia after? A few years later this right yeah. Yeah, it was towards the beginning. That's all I know. But yeah, they didn't so. They didn't they didn't bite. So you never got an audition or anything, you couldn't get close enough because they missed they missed out not having you in there. I, know well, they could. Still do it. Okay Can you can you? Can you dance everybody can dance so you're. Definitely. Yeah. There were. A little little something I did a long time ago He's funny Jenny Jenness Maresca and I think Heidi. Ended up doing it years later after I quit. But there was like a burlesque show that was happening with. Girls from reality shows. and. I DID THAT IN VEGAS FOR LIKE Two or three months or something like that, and then it got really scandalous in weird and I said I'm not. Really. Okay. So next time we do the show here's your pasties and I was like, why are you giving me pasties? They're like, oh well, we're GONNA, change it up a little bit I know Sega so I said Oh no. You're not paying. Me Enough to. Dance. Pacing. Jerry I ask you another question of out the somebody else who you had dated who was famous that I it's Like a fever dream that I remember driving around one day and I was listening to Joe Rogan was on the Howard Stern show and then you called in right that you had. You had dated Joe, Rogan also. The famous podcast actually. On the so yeah that was a hot mess or or you're on show and Joe Rogan called him. Now he was on it too. They set me up. Oh, what happened? Yeah. So I went out there to New York to do the Howard Stern show I don't even remember what I was. Promoting I can't remember but I got a phone call the night before and it was Joe Rogan and keep him on the head and talked to him. 'cause. That was not a good situation with him. and. He I will say he was a standup up guy. He gave me a heads up. He said, Hey, just you know I'm also going to be on Howard Stern tomorrow I was like what? You said Yeah. I just I just wanted you know and you know. Me for a drink and I was like no time. Thank you. So I went in and at least I knew he was going to be there I would have been one sided. Not One of your Howard's right. Now Oh, dear Lord. That wouldn't have been horribly damaging. Than anyone are you surprised? What success his podcast is become that it's basically the number one podcast. Is it really helped kind. Yeah. Very successful as a big deal with spotify. You know. Here's here's the thing that I. Keep finding over and over again about life you know life is not always fair and. A lot of people who are just not good people make it. And unfortunately, that seems to be more the case than people who are really good people who deserve it. And that's how I've always felt about him. He's a very. Hateful. I I don't I don't know. I can't imagine would change drastically when I knew him to who is now yeah. He, he claims that he's now smokes weed and he's doing drugs and stuff and you know. I'm just like she used to belittle. Anybody who did that stuff back in the day? It's just Yeah I'm. So I am surprised. Quite frankly, I'm saddened. That it's never podcast and I'm. I every once in a while here his name and I'm just like Oh man I. I. Yeah. When I hear his voice to kind of go oh, God. I don't know actually talk to actually talked to him earlier today about when you got. US. You. Know what else? was just keep. Got Me I was like Oh. No. Only, amount. Support he said that he had because of me he had no headshot policy in his dating life. He refused date anyone who had a head shot, which is just total both. But talk with that. Yeah. Yeah whatever? A. Much rather the you have the number one. ME. To Jerry. Jerry I don't know if we've. Ever got into that. How how did you end up on survivor? You were just a big Fan of first season and then you pursued it. Actually. Never Okay. So I actually addition or sent in a tape for season one and it would horrible I mean you have to understand is different era we didn't not everyone had. A video cameras you know we didn't have cell phones with video capabilities. It was you know back in the Dinosaur. The Internet was even pretty new back then But I heard about this show called survivor sixteen people thrown on an island last one. Survive gets a million bucks and I was like. Just write me the check I mean a break. So I made some horrible video a friend of mine. Let Me Borrow Video Camera I. Saw Myself sitting on my patio in my Hollywood apartment in my pink bathrobe. With my dog on my lap drinking a cup of coffee talking about why I should go. I did not get shows and so when that show started I refuse to watch it. I was like they didn't pick me screw them screw they're stupid show. Next you know and I was in la I was like super busy auditioning and doing all kinds of stuff. So. I get a phone call. From Limb Stillman out of the blue. And she's like. Jerry. Hey, this is lynch film I. You know I'm working on survivor casting right now and you'd be perfect for the show. I remember you when I cast you on this MTV show Air Force like I saw your tape from season they sent him for season one and it's stocked. He's like I'm giving you. Together and awesome tape I. Know You're perfect for this show. It was basically like ready set go. So I took it upon myself to find the same friend who had a video camera I, borrowed it from him. I had different people shoot mean doing like climbing and hiking and me to work row the bartender like breaking bags of twenty pound bags of ice on the ground like shaking Martinez in like I. Taught Myself How to do voice overs thing and it. Was Amazing and I sent it in. Like with seconds to spare before the post office closed on the day of the death. and. I just had this weird feeling. I was like, Oh, my gosh this is this is going to happen and sure enough it did. I had people on the casting. Team that knew me because I worked with them in la before and this one girl remember rise. Roz. The name is. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah she had I'd actually cast her in a play that I wrote back in ninety eight. and We were really good friends and she she called me up she added. Like. Really High Bench boy. I know you guys would know our are but he called me up and she was like. I think. You're. GonNa get you on. We're GONNA get you on I was like, oh my gosh the business crazy. Yeah. I had a good team of people on the casting. Department. Who Knew me? Like a new that I kick them but on that show. Oh God casting your goal. Jerry they had known. They were they were you're casting your your goal in tbirds intro She talked about your edit and I think that you know looking back on it like I think it's been something that has been talked about quite a bit Jerry. Do you feel like that they envisioned a role for you before they even started filming the show that they wanted to characterize you as being the villain? Now now, not at all Mark Burnett even said to me one time he was like you know Jerry I gotTa. Tell you. I had no idea that you're going to be as tough as you were. So. No, they did not see me in that role at all I imagine they probably. Tom Is this kind of like hippy dippy like you know. I went to burning men and I was like you know the spree thinking. Like hippy kind of person. I they didn't but that's just goes to show you that people in casting need to keep in mind that you don't. You can't get an idea. Eh complete character if somebody sitting in a office judging them like it's just. It's a flawed system but. You know what I gave them was yeah, it was. It was me. And in a very tense, very competitive environment and I am. Competing, I I pull out. No, you know. I kick but that's too I am so. I think it might have thrown them off a little bit. Jerry do you feel like that? They mischaracterized you in the edit in your first season? I think there was a lot of stuff Frankenstein together in a lot of things taken out of context. and. Don't think they accurately showed all the moments where we were all getting along fine and we have been we were having a lot of fun together. You know does shows don't do only have like what forty two minutes and episode Piece together three days of material. It's. I get it. You know it's still a show. That's what I said into all stars I walked off analogy I was trying to make that point that it's a it's an entertainment show. It's a show that setup so that people will get hooked and watch it and you know as well as I do if they showed a twenty four hour feed, you would not. It'd be horrible. It'd be like that big brother after hours thing I tried to watch that I was like Oh my God like watching paint dry. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah I mean I think we all know that things are taken out of context and I think, I got a bad rap because I've had people now go back and watch it and they're like, oh, stand like why did everyone Vilnai's so badly? Do I Yeah. It was a different era and you got you know. People don't understand these younger folks that back then like I said, the Internet was new chat rooms where New People are vicious. The tabloids were like the place that you went for scandal and it was in your face and the you know grocery store line every day. People don't even look at that stuff anymore they're too busy on their phone. And it was just it was a different era. Yeah and CBS did a really good job of promoting that. Show the best way they knew how to get as many viewers as possible and it worked I mean we thirty six million viewers for our finale. We beat friends. Friends spinal season. Every week we were up against them and we beat them in the rating You know is here. I think they are not not her SPEC yeah crazy. Head sheree I talked to I talked to I talked to in the Queen Size Queen about you. And she actually said that you are a very intense when you're playing and she said, she didn't have alliance with you that you. You rarely talked game that you talk more about your dad being sergeant major and you be an Army Brat but she said on your great player, you're loyal to your alliance. But if you've ever previously played with her and got her voted out or cast a vote against her, she does not forgive and she does not forget. That was Sandra. In the Queen's point. Yes. Sandra Sandra says things that are so far from what actually happened or true sometimes I I'm a little worried about her. Yeah Well I mean that saying that I, don't forgive someone that cast a vote against me is philly. That's not true. I. I understand sometimes you get a vote a certain way. Trying to stay in the game. You think. Somebody else. I think. So let's possible. Awful. She has been on. Cheering? What is what is your travis? What is your proudest accomplishment? In everything you've done what is what stands out to you the to be your best? Yes your whole life. Geez. Yes. You know I think one thing that always stands out to me even to this day that I think about Is the first time. I ever had an idea and I saw all the way to the end. And saw the power of that I was twenty eight living in La. and. You know trying to make it as an actress. So was in acting classes and had an agent like doing all the stuff you're supposed to do. and. I just felt like I needed to take things into my own hands and I had an idea I wrote a play. and. It was based on a restaurant bar that I worked at. And I basically, every night when I was at work would take notes of all these different conversations I heard that were fascinating to me and La was such that was so funny to me because everything about it. That's so cliche all those cliches spot on like it is la is just such a trip you place and even at twenty eight, I saw true it immediately. So I wrote this play and. It's I. Was GonNa just run it for one weekend I. Rented the theater, the whole deliver sixteen characters play. I did full castings for it like the whole deal was like. TEEN CAST members. It was a legit situation. Hello. My neighbors turned their. Hardly on. Yeah so I started having to all the way to the end ahead to extend the run it's sold out every weekend. And I would so proud of myself. But I actually. Made that happen and got people interest that. and I it was a good lesson for me for you know the rest of my. Career in La was persistent and if you can't find the work make work. and. I wish now could. You know. Things change you start getting older and you know I I do miss some things about La. Iraqi But I think thing that. that. Really is hard in La. White. So hard to make it in that business because there are still very few. Really good. People that you can find to create relationships with. Its last. I I just like I lived there twenty one years and I didn't have follow group of friends and without friends it's really hard to make it in that business because you cannot do anything in the movie business by yourself, you need a team of people. And that was always my biggest hurdle and so. You, know just recently a kind of started throwing it out to the universe again but I'm on a question yeah I have not given up I'm I'm not a quest put together a good team of people to do projects with. Yeah. The good news is that in twenty twenty that you don't need to be in Los Angeles to do any sort of a creative endeavor that you want to get involved in. Yeah. Yeah, it's very true. I just I honestly, I moved up to Napa Valley I've been kind of hiding out. Here live in A. Quote. Unquote normal sort of existence even though I'm an extraordinary place. It's very remote I'm lucky that this phone call hasn't been interrupted several time. but I feel like I'm recharging my batteries right now I just turned fifty. It's a big deal. It's makes you very introspective Have you kept in touch with anybody that you lived with in the Surreal Life House? Hammer you. Know. Terrorist really. Not. Really now sure if I ever reached out to them, they'd be like, Hey, what's going on? Yeah we we. We had a lot of fun in that how that was a really. Great season even one of the surreal life was. Groundbreaking I. Think everything that came. Louis Airy. Yeah Manny Manny. Yeah. We're feldman he stays in the news. God is he what's you have to? Now I haven't oh, i. mean nothing in particular but he's always Like Any give time you could probably go on TMZ. Got Something going on. Yeah. I, like I said, I know if I reached out to any of them, they'd all be super stoked because we were all pretty tight. It was a very interesting situation. Do you even know what we're talking about. I I? No. No. Yes Jerry on another watch she lived. With. Famous. intro she was in the surreal, but I did not watch it so. I got a lot of catching up to do on Jerry. I've missed I've just been watching the video over and over I don't know I'm going to have to branch out to this other work Jerry's doing. Video. To kiss off. I'm. GonNa be calling you later t-bird when is still stuck in my head. What is what is the biggest misconception about you? That most people think they know about you but but if they're totally wrong. Oh. I. Don't know I mean I guess at this point I don't really know what people think about me anymore. I. Mean. I can say at some point everyone thought I was. A bit and. I was like so far from the truth. But I mean I think now over time people have realized that now. That's not the case. Jerry is there. Can I ask a question about that because I feel like that if you had that reputation like it's such a low bar that if you meet anybody in person and if you're even like remotely civil that they say well. She was so much nicer than I thought she was going to be. A you know what and now she was nothing like that. Yeah, no, it definitely works in your favor. I've always said that I much rather prefer to be underestimated but. Just, as a woman happens quite frequently I prefer that. Just because then it's so much easier when you. Kick Ass. To be totally vote away. Yeah I don't know I I'm I wear my heart on my sleeve people know what they're getting into and they. Meet me. I'm I'm really. Easy Person. WHO To understand on I, mean on a basic level obviously, I'm very complicated. Sometimes that is true my. Overall Yeah you hang out with me if. If I I don't like you I wanNA hang out with it's just very simple. Yeah. I just don't have time to be thinking. You know I moved out of La. Jerry I'm sure you. Have, heard this before. But that you're such an important figure in the history of reality TV and especially in terms of how women are depicted on reality TV do you feel like that things have gotten a lot better for women in terms of portrayed on these shows or do you think that things are still a lot of work that needs to be done? I think that's a good question for Jeff. Crowe you should ask him if he thinks that there are there any interesting female characters on survivor now these? Channel. I think that is. Not a super recent like I, if I if I had to guess I would say that that interview was probably from like five years ago A.. Rod, it was in two thousand twelve. Okay. So okay. So eight years ago I don't think he I think that whether or not he thinks that I think that he would be smart enough not to say that answer. Today. Would hope so yeah. Yeah I you know I don't know there's so much bad reality. TV Out there more women I think are selling themselves very cheaply for camera time I. think There's probably a lot more that can still be done in terms of you know getting people to see. Women on TV. differently. At this, but this is also a really great time. Subbiah will men because you know there's the Hashtag metoo movement now, which is done a lot for women's speaking up and standing up for themselves and younger girls learning that it's a different. Different Time. Young. Let people treat you like crap like stand up for yourself. So I. Think this is a really good time actually. To be a woman, we had a woman president now that's what we need. So, Jerry also will there's Male winner. Rob has been sick seizes as we've had a female. In season thirty, four this is the longest. Time, in the history of the show that we haven't had a woman winner. Yeah. Wow. Why do you think that? Jerry. Why do you think that we can't even get a woman survivor winner right now? Don't. I don't even know what to stay honestly I I watch these forty, but I think I missed probably. Not with. Anything. Five years of survivors I think I missed ten seasons in there wasn't. Interested anymore for a while you were really in it. You were doing the your recaps and everything. Yeah, yeah I was like breaking it down. Yeah Looking at, you know the critic Jerry you had podcast back. This was a big deal from Mayo Selma. This was a lottery of raises. I was really excited talk to you today lots of reasons but back for second chances, Cambodia. Second Chances you had a podcast podcast Rog issue interviewed all of us. An you interviewed me Jerry and I just remember thinking wow, I can't believe I'm being energy bad jerry I mean that was really exciting thing for me it. Really. Do further t bird. Jerry I remember being a fan and didn't you have a show? Was It on the on e that was like a after the episode? Recap. Of Survivor. Yes. Yeah. Survivor recaps. Yeah Yeah Oh, what was his name one of the hosts at the time? Really Nice Guy. God. Yeah. That was a long time and I was I think I think you're season. I. Was doing a show for your season because I remember going on there and talking smack about lex. I saw for all the editing crap I. was like Oh that Guy You know and then I met some person he was like Jerry. How could you I? Got The same route this year and I was like Oh wow I never thought of it. Name on. That's exactly the. Engineering you know about lex he got really hit hard after Africa just like you did and he's like what? The greatest greatest guy the world will do anything for anybody. So I know. You've been it really is. Yeah Yeah. What's your biggest? Biggest. What's your biggest pet peeve? What aggravates you the most? people doing with their mouth open. Oh. I just. I like nails on a chalkboard, which is also very aggravating. Yeah. That's interesting. Nails on a chalkboard is is very NEU-. Yeah but yeah, I just bad table manners. Oh, it just drives me nuts like did your mom and not tq. there's a there's a list, but I just want POPs in my head because I'm still amazed when I meet able to it there. That'll be something we don our reality show this dinner for six we're going to have to go out. Yeah. That's right. All. That chat. Oh, my God. Another. Look people do it. Then they can see themselves on TV then maybe they'll stop. It's true. You have a big fan in in. Mitchell. Mitchell has and I'm going to send you when we hang up I'm GonNa send you this picture of you and Mitchell that he sent me that he says that he has this picture in his room. Now of the of of Youtube he said you are his all time favorite people ever. He said the conference you could pick up with right where you left off with zero gap in the friendship he said he adores you that's from missile. No. Yeah he's doing my favorite. Do I Gosh Yeah Yeah Mitchell middle was amazing I. Stralia. We had so much fun out there. We really did and just always used to bum me out how much they never showed i. wish they would have Piece together like all the on. Scene, footage, of Australia the way they do nowadays. So many great moments. Take. We talked to a few weeks ago and he said that you guys have actually stayed in touch and he's had quite a career since Australia with everything he's doing. So do you know he told us? He was supposed to be on season one and he thought he was supposed to be in Richard Hatch's position but he couldn't go because he was filming some kind of food show cooking show somewhere in the islands and Jerry and you are professional share. The cattle workout. See. that. Surprise that he's not a cookie. I'm I'm just being no. Yeah. Yeah. No I. I. I don't really talk to too much everyone. I find him on facebook but Yeah. He seems very happy. He's been through a lot that guy. I always kind of felt bad. You know I might have had something to do with. Not Cooking. A little bit of guilt. About that to be quite honest But you know. I I don't what would what you do. Now he's still like camera the camera man, he's a deep. Yeah he's a documentary filmmaker good for him. Yeah. That sounds great. These happy Cherry. You might have pushed him into this amazing career. He's doing he's doing some beautiful documentaries rob I mean doing. Amazing. You might be the one. To credit for that. Pushed him to where he was supposed to find his purpose. Yes, the way yet. He was working in a restaurant that is a nightmare. I would never be a chef in a restaurant that is like. Awful. Awful. Horrible horrible job is now now so I don't blame him doing documentaries is way way better for your soul you're. Everything your body. good for him to do. You have anything anything else for Jerry? No. I. Guess. I'll just hold and Jerry. Do you have anything else for us and if not, I'll close with this. What I've got here because I thought this was really really special something you actually said, Jerry you ready for it. Yes it's really cool. I actually watched you say this several times and you were so passionate and it was so heartfelt. This is this is what you said. Why you said well, it's official. I'm fifty a really good time to reflect and stop take some time. If feel blessed good things will come of this it will I know it I just know it at the very core of who I am I. Know that amongst all this chaos. There's some great change and progress some amazing things right around the corner a lot of growth. So that is why I feel. So blessed today on this day that I turned fifty years old. That was on your facebook. cheery. Yes. She did a video rob and that's what she said. It was so heartfelt I mean research. Really are now posted anything on my. My Jerry Mansi pages in Jillian years, I just. I just felt like right now everything is so crazy and there's so many broken people. That feel hopeless and helpless and. Everything seems so dire and dark and. You know you can focus on the darkness or you can look into the light and I choose to look into the light I. Really Honestly. Feel like good things are coming because people are talking about things. They never talk about it for people have prioritizing things they never thought about. It's It's really tough time for a majority of people in the world not even just the United States right now crazy right now but I really am excited that so many people are. You know stepping into the light and letting themselves. Be taught and learn about what's going on like I. I don't WanNA get political here. Anything I'm not a political person at all whatsoever. But I've had to pay attention for the first time in my life to how things work and our system is broken. It's broken and needs to be fixed, and it's only going to be fixed by all of us standing up and paying attention and doing something about it. So Yeah I am hopeful even though it sometimes it's hard. Overall I really. Good things are gonNA. Come I do. All Right Jerry desert anything that you want people to check out you don't go on your facebook pages. You won't be able to follow you on twitter or instagram or anything. I, think I do more stuff on instagram than anything nowadays Posted a lot of food pictures and I post links to recipes I, try out and. Yeah, follow me on Instagram that's what's your waiver. Jerry Nancy okay. And I don't know how you get verified I've never been verified on Instagram, which is hilarious. Yeah. Jerry. So popular, she's to have Jerry Mansi facebook one end Jerry facebook. Yes. I still do I still do but I never. because. I'd facebook is. Wow. It sucks so much for your time. You GotTa be careful you have to facebook if you only had one, it would be half as much. Will the Five friend. She's Ten thousand friends. That's why it takes so much time. It's crazy. Jerry it was so nice to hear. Your Voice. Today. Nice. To Talk to you guys to how did you guys end up doing this together I was Gonna ask that earlier what how the two of you so I mean I do the podcast and I've been doing this for ten years. But we started this series where t bird is Katrina round people up that we haven't heard from in a little while. So she goes out and she's like a bounty hunter. Well. cheery Cherry. He left something out. He left something out. We talked to people that the fans want to hear from. So, and usually most most of the people we've talked to up to now has been all old school. So it's been great to catch up with old school and. Jerry when you old school may your your name is right up at the top absolutely at the top of the list. You're. Casting gold and I loved you played so many times and that you have come full circle and even the fans have come full circle with you to see how you went from your to be in a village, a villainous and how you've come full circle when people realized like lex said, you're just real. What you see is what you get and I love and appreciate that so much about you. Will thank you and you know what I will say. Thank you to all the fans who watch this or listen to this podcast. Rob You're doing a great job you. Yes and congratulations on ten years. Of your boy this is me. T-bird you're bringing an energy to the programs, nobody else could tell you. It's been really fun being in contact with you again as well. And Thank you for everything today and everything that you said on the podcasts and I just hope that you remember to. Have a little faith. Okay. Bid On that I was like. Aw. Hey That's going to be Jerry. That's GonNa be like the number one. PULLED UP VIDEO was we post? This is going to faith faith feels GONNA be like, why is everybody pulling youtube in this video it going to be. Good. Man. Yeah, thanks I haven't stuck in my head for the next day. Jerry, thank you so much. Okay. All right. Thank you. You guys have a good day care. Cheaper there you have it. Jerry Mandy. Just, She Harry Oh goodness. You know. When you start looking at somebody gets flight three times everything that she's done in the span of it and what I learned about Jerry wave before she even played survivor like she was saying she was writing plays and in all these videos and different things, she's done a lot even way up until survivor and she continues to keep going. So expect more from Jerry, Jerry is not finished. She's had many different acts in terms of what she's done over her entire career. Yeah. So even if fifty I'm expecting a lot more from Jerry, she's not done yet. Okay. Absolutely. Right. I think we are done. For today at least t-bird. Yes. Yes. Anything else you WANNA let. Keeps sending unless request. Okay. All right. Getting close with anybody else roll roll. Now we are. I never know. Sudden you just. Never know but I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful during the for Halloween t burn. You know what? Lynn. was talking to me about that yesterday about US dress up and just walking around somewhere so You know it was just so fun to play dress up in costume even if you just stay in at home even if you're staying at home so well, what about you know the kids are dressing up? Yeah. They're going to dress up. We'll do some. We'll do something but we're not gonNA go out trick or treating. I think Nicole's planning like some activities here at the. House. Do, like a drive through Halloween party like you did for dominance birthday the. Perfect just throw the candy in the car. The super. Get on with my, day. Were podcast. Of course, you could follow the great at T-bird Cooper on twitter. Let her know who you want to hear from next on the talking with cheaper podcast. Of course, all podcasting is made possible by the patrons of a podcast find out about everything we're doing rob has a website dot com slash patriots. Thank you everybody so much for listening. Take care. Have a good one. Now.

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240: The Graveyard Visitor

The Confessionals

1:03:58 hr | 8 months ago

240: The Graveyard Visitor

"It. Was All circulating around the base that a giant kill almost talk about. saw. Long, going fingers reach up underneath the door. Curl up to grab it and then disappeared. When he came over to. Dude, he slithered over to make. This giant comes out. Frozen! He starts running firing up the giant. Giant move? Running really fast, it's fears then. Try, this. Somebody else shoot him. Shoot him in the face. It basically details. Dot. Dot from when about this. Way. That for about blow the Patio. From pulling at my leg and I looked over, and there are two mall gray. and. Literally, I'm getting pulled off that I my hand, Interest Bush and I. Couldn't breathe. Couldn't move. Because I know sea. Monster took. took. Welcome to the show. You're listening to the confessionals. I'm your host Tony Michael Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or story like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email. 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We have some Mantha coming on the show and Samantha when she was seventeen moved into a house with her mom that it all started. started out with some weird feelings and progress from there to the point where they saw things happen and anybody who came into the House had experiences, and before we get into a Samo and reminder, but were still doing the raffle this Friday night on instagram live. We're going live with the RAFFLE for this awesome sixteen inch plaque. That house wolf projects made of the show's logo. It's really cool, and we're GONNA go live on Friday at eight PM Eastern Standard Time to raffle off this awesome logo plaque all. All you have to do to qualify to be in the raffle is be a member to the confessionals podcast Dot Com and follow house wolf projects on facebook or Instagram, and shoot me a screen shot of you following them, and I will put you in the raffle for this awesome plaque. It's awesome guys I hope you guys enjoyed. WHOEVER GETS US? You're GonNa love and telling you because I have it right here in my studio, a twenty inch black, and it is fantastic, so let's get Sam right now. Alright today we have Samantha on the show and Samantha. How are you I'm great. How are you I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine, so you're out there in Oregon and you've had some paranormal experiences in your life and I think it seems to have started around when you're seventeen. He moved into this new home. So if you could just kind of walk us into the situation of this new home you moved into and what were some of the things that started happening you? Okay so yeah. When I was seventeen, my mom and I had to move to a new place By this time my parents were separated, and my two sisters were with my dad, so it was just me and my mom. We went, and we looked at all. These places and I found this place like. It was weird because it was on a dirt or a dirt and gravel road like a dead end and everything else in town was paved, but like. I Dunno like that stood out to me and I. Like you know what we should check this out, mom? So we found it, we applied for God. It and we started moving in and. I chose to take the upstairs bedroom and it was like. I don't know it just felt like really head be in like. Almost made you feel claustrophobic. Room and it was. I don't know it was like really weird feeling. I don't know how to explain it and So I just figured I'd get over. You know and we've been living there for. I don't know like a month or so, and then I just started feeling. Watched like the downstairs of the house like nothing salt wrong with it. Nothing felt weird. You know everything seemed fine, but in my room. I felt watched. I felt like I had to heavy air like squeezing me. It was like the I don't know how to explain it. And my best friend like. She didn't like going up there, but dot. Swear my hang out. Place was and she'd always mentioned like. Hey, there's something. Something not right with your room like just not right. and. Like we couldn't. We couldn't figure out what it was. We'd open the windows. We'd open the bedroom door. We'd turn on a fan. We turn on music. We would just try to like. Fill the silence, but then also get. Kinda just. I don't know like we're seventeen. We don't know what to do. And No matter what we did, nothing changed it like it was just always. Weird. And then as we're moving stuff around like I'm redecorating my room, trying to make it mine, and instead of just being stuff there to be temporarily, 'cause. I didn't know if I was moving out after I graduated or not. We started like moving stuff around and like there's this one corner. In the room and it's like had my tiny little closet door, and then it had like one of those. I don't know it was like a tiny tiny 'cause it like cubby, and I don't know the doors, probably like two and a half feet tall by like. Foot and a half wide and That corner just always felt like. Something was there like when you're sitting down? You just feel like somebody's in that corner just staring down like. No matter what we put in that corner, or whatever like it just felt like something was over there. I don't know how to explain it like. I know I listen to another one of your interviews and a guy like was explaining the bedroom he was in like having a tiny little cubbyhole lake. It's almost as if something's like attracted to those little cubbyholes I. Don't know why. Yeah. It was like that was like the and I'm trying to go its chronological as possible, so that's like. Leading into like the paranormal experiences, and it was just like the only thing that was going on with. It felt weird felt like you're being watched. So. Come close to Halloween. My friend, my best friend and I like. went out to a graveyard. So, we went out like two times I think the first time was like a week before Halloween. And So where we live is like they homesteaded. Coming off the Oregon trail, so it's like there's a lot of old homesteads in graveyards and just. Stuff from back in the day. Out there outside of town and kind of some places in town we'll. The graveyard was probably like five seven miles outside of town, and we just like to drive backwards because. The town we've lived in like. Thirteen thousand people was small pretty much. The only thing we had to do with the bowling alley or drive like to one of the next town over, so we just drove around, and she had previously come upon this graveyard, and it was like out in the middle of nowhere. Right, next to like. A house. On a large size lot like at least a few acres, but it was like this lone little gravel driveway that just like had no indication, and it was like next to big grove of trees. And I was like. How did you find this and she's like Oh so and so showed me and you know so. I thought we check it out, so we went out there and we did it at night time. And like the first time we went out there like. Nothing really weird happen except for. It sounded like a car was coming up the gravel. Driveway, but there was no headlights at all, and then it would just like stop, and then we would hear it again. and. We're like okay, whatever so we laughed and then we came back on Halloween night and I know it's like super cliche like it's so I don't know it just sounds like it's some cheesy movie. Rip Off but we went out there. And before we went out there like we, you know put. this before. And everything so we had like CD player, and like we had it cooked up. You know to the radio. and. That's how we listen to her music. Then because two thousand four seems ancient now, but whatever. Put Batteries in the and the Stereo or the TD player. And I put in. A mix CD that I made and it was. Tool and a perfect circle. And that just like. That's important. So, we drive out there and the stereos going and all of a sudden like we pull up into the graveyard. And we park, and all of this and we're just sitting there with the radio is still going and deciding what we're GONNA do and. It just stopped. Like is if the battery's died just. Stop done game over. Like okay, that's weird. So we get out and we go inside of the graveyard, and there's like a little bench along the fence and we sit down and. We start talking about like what happened. The last time we were out there and. If If things could be going on like we were speculating and. All of a sudden, this weird. Dense fog star rolling in and here where I am in Oregon like fogs, super common, especially this time of year, but it was like. Denser than usual for October, it was just. Super Dense and it starts creeping in, and then it just stopped. And we're like okay. You know whatever and all the sudden like. After a few minutes of talking, it just started. Going back from whence it came if that makes sense like it just. Reverse it was like. I don't know it didn't even feel like the winds shifted at all. But it just went back and we're like okay, you know. We're talking and talking and. Then, we hear like. SNICKERING like? Not, laughing, but like snickering. Sounded like two or three little voices almost like. Kids. The, not like tiny kids. Maybe you know lake. Eight, nine ten eleven like it had that mid range voice, we could hear them snickering over by. The trees. and. We're starting to get freaked out. and. It just I don't know like we just kept on hearing them. They just would not stop like no matter. What we started talking about or flake, we moved to the other bench on the other side of the gate. We could still hear like snickering as if like. Something's. Watching us. and. Laughing at us, but not a nice laugh. and. The whole time like we were there, we were hearing it. And we started hearing like the. Car Tires on the gravel. Coming up the drive again, but we would see no headlights. and. We couldn't see a car like we took a flashlight this time and flashed it down the gravel like we went to investigate. Nothing. And we. Sat Back Down and we're just talking and. I had like this plastic. Because it rains here in. We have like little. Chair covers that we'd like to take places with us. Just in case starts to rain. And I so I was setting on that because I didn't want my. Pants, to get dirty. And I look over. Like 'cause I felt like I was being. hotch like like leaned up against, but. No. There's nothing there so I look over to try to figure out what's touching me. And I see. But print like it's clear as day, but print in the plastic next to me and I was like okay. You know what? We're going. We're done. We're no more. No Moss can't do this. So. We packed up the car. And we leave. So, while we're driving I, like couldn't fresh batteries into. Little CD player. And it's still like my CD still wouldn't play like it would not come on like nothing. Couldn't figure out. Okay. You know what the hell like. New Batteries. We literally bought them from the store before we left. Go Gala Leon gallivanting like for the day. And we get. Closer to town, and all of a sudden like. It just Blair's on just scared the crap out of us, and it was like the it was full volume like her stereo like that. Like. Installed in her car was like volume blared. The CD player had the volume blared. It was just. Not how we had it to begin with, but it was just randomly out of nowhere. Like just started. So we just decided to. Get Out of there like fast. We could within falling speed limits. Get back into town and we decided like. You know what. Let's keep driving, and so I was talking to my friend about this a few weeks ago and she reminded me about this. so we went out on the opposite side of town driving in the back roads. And there's this like super. Tall Steep Hill. And we're like what let's go to the top and look over town and you know just hang out there 'cause nobody wants to go back home like. Eight o'clock on Halloween night I mean. Come on now. So we go up there and. On our way down. We were talking about how there was a car accident a few years before. On that Hill. and. All of a sudden like. My friends breaks stopped working like she. They were there and they weren't like new. You can tell when your brakes are starting to go out like you can feel like. The pressure like. Going away on the brakes and you can just feel the starting to grab everything. No. It was just like they were gone. And we get to the bottom of the hill where intersects with the road. And we just stop in the middle of the road like we should've kept going. But he just. Stop Well we decided that's it. We're done like too much. freaky stuff has happened for the night. murden go home. And That's where it leads into. All the other stuff going on at my house. and if you have any questions, go ahead and ask me I. Know that I'm just like keep going. No, you can definitely could go and I mean you're doing a great job and stuff I think the graveyard might actually hold a key to the experiences at the house. Yeah, that's what I thought well. Okay, that's what I thought when I really started thinking about it because later on like fast forward to future when my husband and I like. I started dating and I think it was before we got married that we have the conversation everything just. Made Sense. So after that. After the graveyard and going up the big hill The yeah things started just. Getting really ramped up at my house, so. Within the next few weeks My friend started. Feeling touched all the time in my bedroom like. We would be like sitting on the bed, watching TV or listening to music, or you know maybe doing our makeup to go out and. She would always feel touch like it was like their brushing the back of her hair. She always wore her hair down and it just like. The way. She described it as like they. started like at the top of her head, and just like rubbed her hair, and then Downer back like but with like. Fingertips that's she explained the sensation of being like fingertips like. No Dude, you're just. You're just imagining stuff like I. Know My rooms weird, but. You're like you're just imagining it. And then. One Night! We were going to sleep and we shared my bed and it was like A. Full size mattress and like we. Have like. I don't know. We have like a few blankets with us in a few pillows and it was just us. and. All of a sudden, she makes like. A joke like in a forty voice like ooh Babe like. I didn't know you were into girls like. like what what are you talking about? And she's like I felt the growth in my, but you don't have to be shy like I. Don't have a problem you know. If you like girls, just you know. Like what? Are you high like no. Like what are you talking about? She's like you did not just grow. My but I'm like. No. Why would my hands are over here? Bro, like I can't grow her, but from that angle I'm sorry, not happening anyway. And she just like sat straight up and she's like. something. Groped me like. I felt like it was like kind of like you. Cuddling up to me and a but grab I'm like. All Right? Something's going on like I believe you Adam it like. Okay like I'm I'm starting to wake up here. And so for the next few weeks like she would just continuously be touched. Be groped, or we're going to sleep and she'd be like. Something's cuddling up behind me like they're the big spoon I'm like. Okay I'm sorry. Do you need to go home? We can take you home. She's like no I'm okay. I'll be fine. Well then. I don't know how long after that I was. In my bed by myself. Nobody states night. I don't even think anybody. Come over to visit me that day. And All explain this I. All my window I had like a sheet and blanket. Over my window because I did not like the morning sun that was typical teenager. I like to sleep in I didn't like feeling like a vampire, because a melting in the sun or whatever. And across from my bed I have my entertainment center with my TV. My playstation, my VCR everything like all hooked up with their on lights on and the time and everything. So it was like laying in bed, and I just felt like. something. Negative, was there like I just felt like I would. I was about the panic attack like i. just felt like everything around me. Just change like. The airflow just seemed to like. Stop the. Air Got like? Change in temperature got a little bit cooler, but not like super cold or anything and I just felt like someone was their next me like you can feel somebody next to you. And so I like open my eyes and I lift up my head and there's this. figure a dark. Figure standing at the foot of my bed, and my rooms like pretty dark, unlike the only light that you can see is coming from my electronics. I couldn't even see. Through the dark figure. Like the like lights on. My electronics like you could not see them. and. I was like what I kind of look, you can see the shape of a person. But you can't see the person. It's like a solid black. I wouldn't even call it a mass. It didn't even look like it had a massive the shadow. And I. Played back. Down and I put my blanket over my head. And that was the first time I had voluntarily all my own volition prayed to God since I was like a preteen like I. Prayed to God. please. Make it go away. Take it away. I I anything that could pop into my head and I. Just started like I'm sorry. I, did this and I'm sorry. I went to the the the graveyard like please make it go away I. I prayed for like ten minutes. Finally. Sheepishly like from underneath my blanket and gone. But I stayed awake the whole night like I did not sleep after that it was just. Terrifying I. Believed my friend and I felt the weirdness and my bedroom for the most part. But I've never experienced anything. And I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to think I. I know it was just. Beyond me. So after the blocks figure at foot of my bed. Shadows started appearing in the weird quarter like. Even all times of the day you would see it out of the corner of your eye, but then you look over there. And it's not there. It. The weird court like decided to. Show me, something I don't know it was. Something was over there, but you can never catch it. You can never see it fully. It would just be a flu. Moment where it was, they're not there. Well. after that started happening like shadow and then the figure. My. The stairwells that led upstairs. The light started like if you talked about. Anything weird happening. The light would turn off. The light was on. Usually, it was on because it was dark stairwell. And I know like it's an old house I looked it up, and it was built in nineteen forty one, so it was like. Yeah, you could have bad wiring, but. It just seemed oddly convenient that it started acting up. When, it got brought up like something weird was going on in my room. and. My house was like the hang out house with like. One of my groups of friends like I floated between groups of people for the longest time and this one group of friends. One of them live not far from me like ten fifteen minute walk and. So it. Everybody congregated in my house, and so everybody started talking about it. Everybody just knew, and it was like Sam's house is haunted. Fan has weird stuff going on, you get groped at Sam's house, so you'd better not go over there. Just To tell everybody right exactly and like most of my friends were guys like it started. You know like I. Have My Best Guy Friend. And then he'd bring his other friends that were mutual friends like or eventually became mutual friends. And Yeah. That was like talk leg. Any girls came over. You're going to get growth over there. But? So. My my best guy friend his girlfriend and I like started hanging out and he started telling her all that stuff and. She was like hanging out one day and we're sitting in my bedroom floor. And she's like. Is it true you know asking about like all this stuff and then? The hallway or I shouldn't say hallway, the stairwell light started lift off and I was like Okay Yeah Yup the true as you can see you know and I go mess with the light. It wouldn't work and then come back on and. Like I have to go through everything that you know goes on and. Eventually issues like yeah I'm not coming over here anymore. She didn't like it. Not at all. But. This leads to like so. Then, we started hearing footsteps coming from my room if we were like downstairs like. We would be downstairs. Talking with my mom or whatever and You could hear heavy footsteps like walking around my bedroom. and. Like no, it's just how settling, you know. And Then my mom started experience and like this whole time like my didn't experience anything. She just thought we were crazy or you know. You guys need to get out of the house more you know. Quit watching scary shows whatever then. She started hearing the footsteps like. One time she and her our family friend and he was living with us like. They got into like A. Like a play fight where he like Kinda like walks pastor, and like kind of her and she's like Oh. Yeah, I don't WanNa. Be like that and like this. Like play my mom like. headlock dim just like they were playing, and he's like hell referee refereeing my own sake. What what are you talking about? He's like. Samantha's upstairs. You can hear the footsteps and they like stopped and. Yeah you. Apparently he could hear footsteps, and so she's like. Hey, come down here like we need your help Matt. Nothing. Nothing Like about fifteen minutes later. And they only this. Estimate of time me and my friends like walk in the House like we've gone to the store or something and. Worry Ben I'm like what the store whatever and like dude. I thought your upstairs. I'm like no been gone for like an hour. What are you talking about? I thought she was just like messing with me like. I don't know I just felt like. She was just trying to get a rise out of me. Well then. It happened again. Where my best friend! Was! At my house like she showed up randomly and I wasn't home. And they were talking about it and then. Like the footsteps because they could hear them, and she's like no, she must be home like you're not here that does. She calls my calls? My phone, my cell phone my. You know where he paid by the minute or you know, go low fifty dollars on your card at or your phone at a time. and. I tell her yeah, and I'm in the next town over I'll be back in like forty five minutes or so. To like okay. Yep, I hear the footsteps. They're not lying. I'm leaving and she never went back to my house without me being there like after that she just. Had Enough and I mean she'd come over and hang out, but not without me just did not show up on her own anymore. And Yeah. So the last thing that has to do with how My friend. And her boyfriend. Either town over. and. She decided to come over visit because she was moving with her boyfriend. And She wanted to say goodbye, and I never met her boyfriend like ever this was. New to me. And She calls me. I was like okay well. Call me when you get to this place and I'll give you directions. and. That way you can get my house no problem. And she calls me and the whole time. She's driving down my little gravel road. I can hear boyfriend. Say Fuck this shit! Turn around like. Yelling at them like let me all the car I'm not going. I'm not on like. Your boyfriend's messed up like I. don't even know him. And he like. Why is he talking to you like that? and. She gets to my house and they set out in their truck for a little while. And, then she comes in, and her boyfriend stays out there just. Will Not come and will not step for I'm like what is your boyfriend? Problem like I'm starting to get mad. Though I was like. I felt offended I felt like I had to do with me and then I got mad. You was talking to her like that. And? She's like so. She says this House is haunted and he's not coming in I'm like. Wait, what do you mean? Like his sister used to live here. And he lived with her his sister for a while like two or three years, and he says is haunted and he's not coming in. I'm like. No like, are you kidding me so I go out there and I talked to him and he tells me like. All the weird stuff that happened to him like in this house. And it's like almost verbatim. What like? I was experiencing, but the weird thing is like. It didn't happen at first like when I first moved in, and they lived there like four five years before I did. and. I just. I didn't know what to make of it. I I apologize to them like we had a nice long conversation and. It was like that was like the worst part about it is like. Hearing. that. I wasn't crazy and that it was all real like it like because I was trying to convince myself like. Maybe, this is all just hysteria, and you know group hysteria feeding off one another. But, I, yeah definitely. Yeah. So not long after that. It was probably I know it was about a year after we went to the graveyard, my friend, my best friend still had. My tool and a perfect circle seedy. And she pretty much said that hers that was like the one thing. She listen to all the time. Okay, whatever? Well she got in a car accident. And It this always stuck with me and the only reason I add this is because of. What I'll mention about my conversation with my husband. It was playing a song and the lyrics said. Jesus opened up my eyes and she said that's the last thing she really remembered. You know as she rolled her car. And? That always stuck with me like and it affected me like she wasn't injured and she came out fine, and her car actually came out pretty fine like she was able. Drive it a little bit afterwards. That always stuck with me. and. I don't know like it was just weird. So. FLASH FORWARD TO. I don't know like two thousand twelve. When I'm dating my husband. and. We're having a conversation about music and all that stuff and cure some of the greatest musician. 'cause this this and this and we got onto the conversation of tool well, we're both really big tool. Fans like really love their music. And he's like yeah, but. One of the members is into some real panic. Crap I'm like why he's like. Yeah, like our stir Crowley like. Jimmy page type of crap I'm like what? Whatever you're just. You're being a fear monger so I go. And I go to look it up and on the their website. It talks about how of their members like is into sacred geometry and using that to like have like spiritual experiences. But then. It also mentions that he is summoned a demon, and he has it contained, and it's been telling parables like. Nonstop since he contained it like from this. Book I can't remember what it's called. And it just made. Everything like makes so much sense like how everything like. The radio, breaking out at the graveyard, the weird stuff at the graveyard, then the weird stuff at my house. And then my friend's car accident like it just. It just. Made Sense and Yeah exactly but like we're was like that's what we listen to is tool and a lot of a perfect circle at the time like because they started getting a little bit bigger and more popular, which is you know Maynard? You know one of his projects other than tool so. It just. It was just really crazy, just made everything. Makes so much sense and. So I went onto the web page to get like. The information more correct about you know, the summoning the demon thing. and. It's not I couldn't find it on the website, but they just redid their website like a month or two ago. But it's still referenced on the Wikipedia Page for the member of the band. And so not making it up. You can go look it up on Wikipedia. It's there. But it just made everything made so much more. Side it just. I feel like. US listening to that music, improbably the location we did it. I still like it probably opened up some kind of portal or communication Stanley Hey. We're interested. And then hearing about how you know like their music is written especially from the one member like sacred geometry, and all that stuff like yeah it just I feel like it's tied to that. So knowing what you know about the group and the one person in the band. Does that prevent you from listening to their music now? Yeah and they just had a new album come out yesterday and I was like man. I'd really love to listen to that because I do I love I love their music, but at the same time like once that all like clicked. I don't want to I'm scared like and I know I shouldn't be scared. But. It's a literal fear like I I don't know why like I don't WanNa mess around with that lake. They'd put my husband's like yeah. They put all their music on streaming at the beginning of the month I'm like. As much as I would love to just jam out. I, don't I? Can't it's? It it yeah I'm I'm kind of afraid. I can understand that and the reason why I ask. That is because it's more of a personal question for me, because I have a really hard time, not listening to music that I think is good, even though maybe I find out that maybe possibly probably the artist is in some shady stuff like the example of I think it was way in the beginning of the show episode eleven I think it was I had a guy come on his name. Is Cody and he was having these experiences, and he started tying it all together to the ban that he was heavily heavily invested in hidden their their their. Poster Yeah, to slipknot poster? And Yeah and so like. Cody says that he threw the slipknot poster out. He stopped listening to ban. Things got better and. that. was you know what two and a half years ago? When I talked to him, and at that time, I had never heard that about slipknot, but I really really liked slipknot like it's one of my favorite meals, and that's you and I listened to them a lot like in high school like my senior year like around the same time like I was really into that kind of music like the heavy you know. Yeah yeah I mean it's honestly. Of bands like metal bands, it's probably my favorite metal band ever. I like really really enjoy their music and. I wanted I talked to him. I was like man like that's true. Like should I listen to this music anymore and time? I've found myself still going back to listening to their music and you know I. I don't personally for me. I haven't had any effects in my life negatively at least I. Don't think I have maybe somebody from the outside looking in now, Dude, you change. I mean I've always listened to their music before and it it just for me like I have a hard time saying no to music when I really really like if it's like if somebody comes along and says I don't know The backstreet boys were satanic. Care you know it's like I'm not gonNA listen to them but I. It's hard for me to like especially when I really liked the band to turn it off. I would say that there is one artist that I really really really like, but I had high suspicions that the person was involved in pedophilia and that's Michael Jackson throughout his his life his. He's been accused. Accused of it on and off, and so when their smoke there's usually fire, and then the documentary that came out after he's dead, so I mean part of you can say well. The guy's not here to defend himself, and that's I've seen many people make that argument for that. Documentary came out I. Think it's called Finding Neverland but after I watched that I was just like you know. I don't think I wanNA listen to music anymore. Even though I love Michael Jackson's music and I absolutely could listen to it for an entire day straight nothing but Michael Jackson I I was able to turn it off and so I don't know what it is about the idea of pedophilia over everything else. It's one thing that just gets me and I'm just. Just like I can't go there like if because I am in my heart in my mind I looked at him, and I'm like I personally feel like. He probably was involved in some type of pedophilia, and and if that's how I feel inside I, just I just can't listen to music, even though it's great his music phenomenal, but I just can't go there. Yeah and it's like. It's hard because I'm like really into led Zeppelin. And I was a lead head in high school, and so like knowing about Jimmy page like that's I. Don't know that's I. Don't really listen to them as much anymore, but that was like the one band like you're talking about like with slipknot like I would always keep on going back. Knowing he jimmy page was super inda Alister Crowley. Stuff and Like I. Don't know it's just. And then now I know he was into teenage girls, too. So that just kinda makes over this tasteful, but like the led Zeppelin that was like the one that I just kept on calling going back to over and over again like their t shirts, their album covers. They have the you know the Pagan, or if some people might say satanic like symbolism and stuff like it. Yeah. I totally I mean when you look at like. These album covers and stuff I, mean you definitely see the symbolism there? I mean you know it's there, and it's like at at some point I s you're Kinda just turning a blind eye to just like okay, but the music so frigging good I'm just GonNa turn it on, and so like I'm just going to cross my fingers, and hopefully they're not casting spells on me while I. It's so good. Yeah I, mean I, I, just I don't know I, it's it's one of my saw spots as music I. Don't listen to a ton of music anymore. Because I'm so heavily invested in podcast that I'm I I value information more than I do music these days, and so I listened to a lot of podcasts that I feel gaining knowledge from not just paranormal I in. In fact I listen to more podcasts at our peril than I do paranormal podcasts i. really enjoy feeling like I'm gaining knowledge and growing my brain and so music has taken a back seat, but when when I jam out I'm just like Oh, it's time to go and I don't care. Let's let's rock with some slipknot. Let's make this happen. You know so. Yeah and like that's weird that you mentioned like the paranormal podcasts 'cause I. Like at the time when I was looking for podcasts to listen to, I was avoiding paranormal podcasts because I didn't want to open myself up to anything, 'cause like I was really into the ghost. Hunters shows, and like scary movies and I was into all that, and then after I had like that Kinda. Realization. Like it just started making me a little bit more weary. And then I listened to a podcast, and it had it was talking about the unspeakable name Demon from the Ouija Board. And that just freaked me out. I was like no, no paranormal podcast, but I really wanted to listens like creepy history. And Yeah that lake, so I was like okay maybe, but I try to avoid that stuff like it's. Definitely gave me a major change of like. Mind and heart on some of the stuff. Yeah, I mean it's. It's always good to be aware of you. Know what you're putting in stuff, but yeah I mean I know podcasts you're talking about. We'll give her a shout Diane Student of From History Goes Bump Desk podcast that you were talking to talking about that. You heard me on That's where I found you. And she does a good podcast. He's been around for a long time. So if people are looking for a podcast where they are going to have paranormal, but also educational, her podcast is is one of the best out there for that she she goes into telling you the history of locations, and why it's paranormal and It's very interesting podcast that you can pass time time on and feel like you're being educated in growing your brain. Obviously a very big fan of so Yeah, but yeah I mean. Dealing with this stuff in life is tricky and everybody has their own formula, and how they navigate the waters with it The the the honest thing is that you know you are somebody who admits that the paranormal Israel and that these things happen around us? You've had these experiences, and therefore you're faced with the decision to or decisions as to. How do you go out life? How do you go through life and make decisions accordingly at from this point on and everybody's decisions like you could, you could have the various. Act Room have the exact same experience at the exact same time and walk away and and make decisions in our lives accordingly. but different decisions you know what I mean like like. Everybody has their own ways of handling things and you know for some people. They're going to be like. Well I'm turning off that music then. Well I don't feel like I need to turn off that music and. That's just the beautiful part about life is that we're all in the actual, and we can all make our own decisions and navigate the waters how we see fit. That's what that's. What makes us unique and so But I do know I do not. We'll just drop that album and. I saw that they put their stuff up for streaming earlier in the month and I was like Dang. There's a band re. Oh my God, like that ban was like the band in high school, and it was just like wow, but yeah, so I mean with your experiences backtracking to what you experienced at the house stuff you mentioned about how the boyfriend wouldn't come in the house and. You were and she had come in and said that he he's saying. The House is haunted and you're like. What was that like? Were you like you know kind of set back with that? As in like I? Don't I can't believe this guy thinks my house is haunted, or were you like oh? My God like maybe this guy's GonNa confirm what I've been feeling this whole time I like. It stunned me like in the fact that it was like confirmation because it was like I said it was like. I was. Believing what I was seeing and experiencing, but at the same time like I, had that bit of denial and was like. MASS HYSTERIA! We're all feeding off of each other, but then when this. Third Party. Dude I never even met like I I didn't even know she was dating this guy until like a week before like she came over to visit me. When he said that like that confirmation, it was, it made it real like it just took away any amount of denial. That I had, and it was just so weird 'cause it's small towns anyway so. A lot of people know a lot of people in the surrounding communities, so it was just one of those holy crap, small world, small town things, but it that's what made it believable. Okay? I can believe this dude, because of the circumstances of where we live and the people and all that stuff, but it was just crazy. It was just the confirmation just made it to real. and. Where was your mom and all this stuff? I mean you're having these experiences. Did she ever say that she had experiences, or did you even tell her about what you were going through the time? When. I told her Kinda like mentioned something. She's like what whatever like. You're not know what I. Don't believe it. You know, and then when the footsteps stuff started happening. She's like okay. Yeah. I believe at least a little bit of what you're saying like. I don't know if she thought we were just like. Teenager teenager things that make your mind you know. Experiencing stuff differently I. Don't know She just. Kinda just was blase about it at first, and then now for footsteps. She's like okay yeah, but she never. Outright like said Yep this is what's going on or whatever and she never had any experiences that I know of. Except for? Her hearing the footsteps and she would hear the footsteps often. So, it wasn't just like a time thing, but beyond that like she was. Golden Yeah, so mean you mentioned that you know about your husband, so you're married. Do you have any kids by the chance? Yeah, I have A. Little boy who's about to turn six few weeks? Oh Great! We'll have birthday from the confessionals. So. How has these experiences that you went through as a kid Do you think that they shaped and molded you as to how you're going to? You know, raise your son your children, and if they were to have an experienced to think that you know by you going through what you went through is going to push you in a certain direction as to how you handle it for them, or do you. You're going to try to just have them. Ignore it, and hopefully it goes away. Or how do you think this whole thing shaped you as a parent? Well I kind of feel like I'm going to be real with my kid but we are a Christian family, and so we try to look at stuff through a biblical Lens. So I. Want to do the best that I can as age appropriate as I can to answer questions her explain anything that happens to him. he's already like asking me questions about bigfoot and stuff so I like try. To be like yeah, well, that might be real. That might not be real, but in this case or that case, this is what you know. The Bible says, or this is what you know we believe and. I want you know I wanted set him upper equipped him with. Some of that knowledge but I don't WanNa. Just outright. Scare him So I WANNA. Be Age appropriate as possible. I guess It I haven't really thought about it too much because we haven't had go there if that makes any sense, sure. Yeah I mean with my son. I mean he's only a year and a half, and he comes in my studio and I have. Some bigfoot stuff hanging around on the walls, and you know cast everything, and he points out, and he's like big foot. You know he doesn't say is clear as I do, but you know he's trying to say big for it, and so you know it's. It's a cute thing right now, and he's just. You know big bigfoot because that's you know I pointed out to him when he's younger and telling them. That's a big force. Now he says it. But I'M NOT GONNA. Sit Down with him when he's five or six years old and try to explain to him. What I think bigfoot could be because I. don't I scared the kid you know because I. Don't have a favorable outlook at on bigfoot I. Mean I know you know there's people that do and I've had people on the show that have very positive outlooks on them I am. Am Not one of those people I don't really have the greatest outlook on him. I don't think all of them are out to bite your head off, but I don't think that their origins are very pure and so I'm not going to sit down with my son. Okay this big thing. It's a monster and it's real, and it could kill you like I'm not GonNa, do that I. I mean yes, but I think as time goes on. It will just be one of those things where it's a organic compound where you know as time goes on. He knows what daddy does, and he's getting older and he's asking more age appropriate questions as you get older, you ask more questions and I. Think my my plan going into. It is just to be very honest with him as As possible, but in a way where it's Not You know He. He doesn't feel like. He's sitting through a Spielberg movie or something like that and he's getting freaked out. It's just this. Is You know this is reality? Truth is son. monsters are real data talks to people who sees sees them and i. just gotTa find a way to relay that message to him. When it's age appropriate. Yeah play hard. 'cause like my son like I said the last few weeks. He's been all about bigfoot. My brother-in-law was talk about bigfoot to them and I think it's when they went to. The redwoods I think that's the origin of the bigfoot, discussion and So I have to you know i. try to tell them like while. We don't know if he's real and. have to explain to them like Oh, he doesn't live out here. You lived in the woods and you know I. It's like really hard because I wanted like you said like. Eventually at some point. You're going to have to explain that at the same time I don't want him to be like. Asking like one question that digs deeper into the next question, and then so far you know like I'm. Traumatizing, my child with monsters a real yeah. I mean if it gets to that point where he's asking deeper questions, and you don't think it's ready to be like. Oh look ice cream. Popsicles Yeah We. We have chips and ice cream, and you want French fries or whatever you want and. Before you know, and he'll forget exactly what he's talking about. What was I saying and like Dang I'm training my kid to be add now so. But. I'll tell you what's admit that I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your story and chatting with me and you know I think it was a good conversation, so thank you very much. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it like I. Haven't told anybody this like I haven't even really told my husband. It's like who experienced it when it happened. And that's it like I. Like. Haven't even talked to my best friend we've talked about it once not was like back in. March or something like that in the last fourteen thirteen years. And so I, appreciate you letting me get it off my shoulder. Oh, yeah, for sure a great to have your husband. Be totally informed is to play the episode for him when it comes out so. I've got him to listen to to your podcast, so he might like. Refresh it and be like Oh. What's this? I know this person. Well I appreciate you being here. Thanks a lot, thank you. Well. 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There Are No Girls on the Internet with Bridget Todd

Stuff Mom Never Told You

56:38 min | 6 months ago

There Are No Girls on the Internet with Bridget Todd

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So so excited to be joined by someone whose voice you might recognize, and if you don't, you need to fix that right away and we're talking about pass hosted the show and all around powerhouse bridget, Todd. Thank you so much revered. Oh. My Gosh I'm so excited to be here. What's up Y'all like I've missed checking in and connecting with y'all both on the pod and Irl, but I'm so stoked to be here. Yes. Yes. We have missed you too. We've watched from afar at all the amazing things you're doing. And then quarantine you really put. A damper on hanging out in real time thing. But Yeah, how are you doing bridget I? Am I think I'm doing just as good as anybody you know in this corner here. Really Fun exciting trips to the kitchen into the cow into the bed, and then back again, you know it's been wow. It's been a whirlwind Sir I have to say though as a person who does follow you on the social media says I have seen you travel and have been very jealous of your nature travels I'm like Oh man look at her she's going here and there Oh why have to say so so before quarantine I'd like really had the travel bug I was lucky to work with an organization called Afro Punk, which has like music festivals all over the world so I got to. Come, along to all different kinds of fun places, but then quarantine happened, and honestly it's been really fun to explore. The domestic offerings, what's in like? What's drivable so Rediscovering. Shenandoah and Virginia or the Hudson Valley and New York or the catskills places I can drive to safely and camp at. So it's been interesting. It's been interesting to reconnect with the places that are not too far away. Right. Your local backyard. You're like Oh. Yeah. Forgot. These are nice. Little areas the hang out and you make a great I'm like, oh. Mainly, she's on another adventure. I'm going to sit here on the couch and just flip the her photos and pretend like hair. Favorite pastime what you don't see is like all the mosquito bites and. poop. Had to like you know all the things that are Glam. Right right now, you look good for real for real, but I also do. Already, know those bugs would be on top of me and you I'll be fighting with the animals. I Have A. Bunch of mosquito bites right now from a I. I can't tell you if this is a smart thing or very foolish thing I did. But I followed a mysterious light into the woods. Sounds like the. Car. Movie. For this. Well. Could talk about movies all day with y'all. But I suppose. We should perhaps come back and return to that I would love to do an episode on that. But we wanted to talk about your new show bridget, which congratulations. It's awesome. Thank you. Yes. Absolutely. called. There are no girls on the Internet, can you tell us about this show? I'd be happy to. So essentially, there are no girls on the Internet really explores all of marginalized people who have experienced online i. think that you know I'm a woman who is what you might call. Call, extremely, online. I'm always on twitter always on social media for time. I really enjoyed read it I'm on. TIKTOK. But I sure enjoy you know watching the dances and I, think, fit as women as folks of color as a black woman I, think that our experiences so often goes overlooked erased online, and that's a real problem. You know it's not just a problem because we. Re to we want to have a richer fuller understanding of what makes the great we want to be able to inter that. We're listening to everybody's boys. It's a problem because of that, but it also has like very, very real world consequence when we don't listen to women black folks, other marginalized voices online. How I got the idea for the show. It really was a couple of different things. All seem kind of disparate, but I swear they at least in my mind they interact or inner set. So the I was. Watching, all of these like really horrific acts of public violence. I'm thinking about things like this attack on women in two, thousand, fourteen in Isla Vista California where this. Gunman opened fire on a college campus specifically targeting women. In, Glendale Arizona a man livestream has attacked targeting couples romantic couples in Toronto recently a man. Went on a shetty attack that left a woman dead in Toronto. And that was classified as terrorism and something that these attacks all had in common was that all of the perpetrators had a very long and like documented history of online, hate against women, online extremism, things like being active and like insult communities online like that was very clear and so many of these these instances and I remember thinking to myself if only people had taken this lake, very obvious hate against women being expressed online. If somebody who take him that seriously. Then, I. Remember hearing about you know all of these women particularly feminist women who identify feminists noting all of this like very suspicious dangerous behavior. They experiencing online things like, Gamer, gate things like black feminists speaking up about you know. People on four Chan trolls impersonating black women would like spread chaos and disinformation and confusion on online spaces and I remember after the two thousand, sixteen election carrying about increasing that. Yes, we now have confirmation that. Foreign agents were impersonating black people on social media to try to sway the election either get these voters to stay home or vote for trump and I thought, gee, if somebody had listened to these black feminists and these women when they were talking about these experiences online and for me for a long time, it was just like these sort of disparate thoughts like nobody really listens to marginalize voices when we speak about our experiences online and at this time in my own kind of. Experiences the woman online. I really had to sort of think like. Well, what is my role in this? You know? I'm someone I've worked AT TECH COMPANIES, I've. been online since being online and was like a popular thing to do. But Yet, I really silos my own Internet experiences as overall. Yes. I use twitter and yes, I make my living on the Internet. But who am I ask questions about Tech Policy? Who Am I to ask how these platforms operate? You know I'm a person and tech and realize these things were all. All sort of related that the idea that the experiences that I bridget was having online did not. They were just sort of compartmentalized. Did Not mean that I was able to take space in conversations about the internet or tech, and all of the different ways that not listening to marginalize voices and marginalized peoples, experiences, online all those things to me, they all kind of like. Equal up to an epiphany where I was like Oh, my God, we're not listening to marginalize people when they talk about their experiences online and it has real world consequences. and. That's how I got the idea for the show. I happen to be reading this book by Clare, Evans Amazing Attack Historian, who, so beautifully about all the different women who were integral to technology and the Internet, people like eight, a lovelace grace hopper and I thought like we. The Internet is actually kind of our domain. I wouldn't exist if not for women for other marginalized people. So why why do we not have a voice? Why don't we are our stories need to be silent or compartmentalize like they're not listened to you and you know connecting that to. All of the in real life consequences that not listening to women and marginalized people. Online has at just thought. We need to do something we need to. Right this wrong and. To reframe our understanding of the Internet and technology as a place where our voices matter, and we we have a right to take up space in those conversations, and so that's really where the show was born. Awesome. I love all that First of all bridget. I. I remember being so impressed when you told me about your experience on Wikipedia. So there's a part of me that sees you as a techie you. Because I was so intimidated to do that. When we did that episode, we were talking about how women are missing from wikipedia and then. We've talked a lot about how. When it comes? To. Gaming. So, many of US including myself. So many of us have just put up with. This victory, all like that's just a part of it or been turned away. And how that does. Lead to either people being silenced because they've left. Or? Just. Yeah. Like you said not being listened to. So why why do you think that is, why do you think these contributions that do you have? To me what seems very clear real world. Implications and impacts. Why are they overlooked? I think it's a lot of things. Right. First of all, I think that in those industries is the same kind of systemic barriers that women and marginalized voices face in any kind of industry, right? Whether it's gaming whether it's working for tech platform whether it's just like a normal nine to five job. You know our our systems are not set up to allow for a lot of marginalized people to feel comfortable and like not just feel like they have a seat at the table, but they can like actually meaningfully involved in these conversations. You know if you look at the computer at the tech industry things like not having paid leave or. Or really crappy workplace policies that really keep women from not just not just rising in the ranks of those communities. But also like staying around these policies that ended up pushing those waste out, and so if you have communities where at the perfect and the professional space women and other marginalized voices are not able to take up space there because of these policies, the people who do those policies are going to like leave those voices out. So they're gonNA designing policies that don't take into account experiences like you have had any in the gaming gaming experience that I've had online like people will be making policies that do not account for those experiences because their. Workplace. Policies are hostile to those voices, right. So that's one I. also think the other is really cultural and I think it's like. On us to sort of combat and I. think that is the idea that things that happen on screens whether it's on twitter on, read it on a gaming device whatever that it's not quote real life I've definitely felt that way. Right that like, oh, whatever happens on the Internet. It's just happening on the Internet. It doesn't really have implications for the real world that could not be further from the truth, right like. There's an overwhelming body academic research that suggests that things that happened online can really translate to real world experiences, things like you know, acts of violence things like voting behavior and elections. You know the more that we silo these experiences and say like Oh it's just the Internet. The less we will be trained to understand them and see them when they actually impact our of your life behavior which we know they do, and so I think you know this idea that like, Oh, if someone is being mean to you on your gaming device, just turn it off as well. That doesn't really. Really meaningfully, address what's going on there. Yes. Absolutely and. I. I love how you talk about. We've traditionally thought of. The realm of the Internet and tech as being. This masculine thing. But in fact, it is women and marginalized people who have been running it and I remember this came up in our fan fiction episode and Yes follow me here. 'CAUSE I. Love Fan Fiction. I think it's one of my favorite most beautiful things. And it's mostly written by women and marginalized people, young girls And it's often derided even though they made these spaces. They're are the ones that wrote the code, they've made it. They saw something that was missing. And they. Fix. It. But we see that being ignored and even articles of freight of it. Afraid of people making these spaces and writing. Fan. Fiction, which to me seems so harmless, but is so therapeutic often. So I. Guess if you could go more into you and perhaps you could use examples views on the show. 'cause you get amazing interviews on your show. Of Why The Internet is we should think of it as a place where women in March people are really pioneering. It is our space. Absolutely. I'm glad that you brought up the fan fiction episode I think that's a that's a I remember doing that episode and I think that's a great example of what I'm talking about where we were the people who pioneered. The Internet right. The Internet would not exist if not for women and other marginalized voices, right? And to take that further. When, you think of computers and their integration into our everyday lives. Women were there at every at every turn, right? Like still like the way that we have computers and the Internet and technology now, which would not be a thing if not for our voices and I think you know Clare. Evans. Writes about this in her book. That chronicles. It's called broadband. Get it. But in chronicles the untold story of women and the Internet, and really there is a lot of marketing that went into our understanding of computers and computing as a male space. All of these computers, commercials or software commercials on the eighties. That were things like Oh. This computer is going to replace your like nagging secretary or this fax machine is going to replace. Your annoying wife or something like all of these ads go into shaping this understanding cultural understanding of computers and technology as a masculine space. But. That certainly was not the case you know in World War Two women were human computers. Everson, the movie hidden figures like women who were actually acting as computers themselves. That was seen as women's work right like. That was really sort of like. Cast aside like all the women will do, we'll crunch the numbers and it wasn't until after that that that baton wasn't really passed to the next generation of women that we just allowed it to be thought of as a man's domain. I think what you've the point that you make about. The connection to fan fiction. It's true. Right. Lake not only did we create technology and the Internet that's like our domain, but also we're innovators right like I mean, I don't want to generalize. But I feel like whenever something really cool. Or really pop is happening online nine times out of ten. There's a woman behind, it does a person of color behind it. There's somebody who was a marginalized behind it. Right? Look things like. That was started a black woman black lives matter that was hired by three queer black women, these things that like pop off and make the Internet this like powerful dynamic. Awesome thing that we love being on all that none of that stuff would exist if not for us, and so you know we have always been these amazing digital innovators even when we are pushed out even when we are overlooked marginalized, we are going to keep. Showing up online and building monuments and make him cool stuff and building movements and shaping the World Online, and so I just think it's like a really great story of resilience of you. Know you try to overlook us. You try to bury us, but we're still here still mic like riding around fans action still. Doing am. G really is you can't give us. For sure. We have a lot more of this conversation with bridget, but first, we're GONNA. Pause for a quick break for word from our sponsor. Money is something we've talked about a lot on this show especially when it comes to women and the Awkward Taboo that there still is around it for a lot of us. How are you with Money Samantha? You know it took me a while to finally get to an understanding finance because growing up. I. Definitely. Did Not talk about it with my parents that was something. Something that. We learn about. Honestly I don't think I even knew how to do a checkbook until I got a checking account, which was right before I went to college I think, and even when I was at home, it was my dad made the money and my mom handled the finances and she would tell us whether or not. We could afford to get McDonald's. Well I was really fortunate because I was the banker at my. Bank. All my friends as I've grown up, we've been really open with money and how much we make how much we spend on things, and then it's just been a huge benefit for me when it comes to things like go shading salary or knowing how much is too much to pay for my apartments and and when we talk about things as we so often do. Do on the show like the gender wage gap and Patriots. It's just it's such a big deal to talk about finances. Right? 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And just kind of wanted to, if you could just talk a little bit about that about how if you can in the industry in industries that are heavily influenced by social media, what that looks like and how it impacts individuals when we start to do things like racial and not recognize the actual reasons behind these creative movement. Yeah. I'm glad that you brought that up. So erasure. So in in putting together this show. The thing that has been like. Comes up again and again, and again how voices are erased online, and you could start a whole movement viral movement online and people not even know your name, right. So the example that you brought up blackout day. That was created by this woman Mar Sebastian. She created in her dorm room, right like her and her and her friends, and it just sort of took off and morphed and people were you know not crediting her people were you know hijacking the movement that she built and a racing her her the creator from her own, her own creation and I think. You know in developing some of these episodes I, see time and time again that especially with black women, it is assumed things that we create online are just for everybody, right? Like what does it matter? Who created the Hashtag what matters is that people are hearing it? That may be well and good. But then somebody is is creating the t shirt and getting the money that says the Hash tag that you created somebody is going to go on the Ellen show and like you know win a scholarship or whatever. For making this thing, it's so interesting to me how easy it is especially black women to have our labor our talent. Taken and sort of cannibalized and have us as creators just being erased and I think. I think that it's a little bit complicated because. I think as women, but especially, black women, you don't WanNa seem ungrateful. You don't WanNa seem salty. You don't WanNa see like a hater or that you're you know complaining in public, but until the temptation can be just to say like, Oh, I'm happy people are engaging with this thing I created I love to see that it's getting so much attention when in reality, it can really hurt like in that episode about Blackout Day. The thing that really struck me about Mars is story in creating black day was not that she was like I. You know I want the Credit Mimi me. She was really hurt that something that she made that she was expected to be grateful to be a footnote. Footnote on movement that she started. You know like and having to grapple with that in public and knowing the implications for being like a black woman who has something. That's not super happy positive to say like having to do it anyway, and the implications of that I. Think these conversations are much more complex than we than we realize, and then we start digging and you're like Oh. There's a lot going on here. Right and I I completely agree I think there's just a whole other level that again we we've talked about before you guys have addressed before, but the whole idea that in order to be successful or in order to even be a part of anything you have to be grateful. And you have to show. Instead of just being like I can own this. This is my. I. Did this and that sounds like you're being a bitter over the top, which by the way is an awful stereotype. You Place on Black Women's specifically in when they are like, no. If any man did this and they got they came out said, this is mind you would give him an award. Award, as for me, you're telling us, it'd be quiet and sit back down because you don't want to credit black women. You don't want to credit women of color with the things that they should be credited with one and first, and foremost in celebrated because they are sharing it kind of just like mind blowing absolutely and for me personally, I had a lot of. Personal growth to do in that in that department and seeing other black women do that in public like like take ownership of their stuff in public was hugely helpful for me. I'm thinking about you know when Metoo I popped off. People credited me to with Eliza Milano, who definitely did like amplify it and use her platform. But you know it was created by Toronto Burke Black Woman and watching her say, actually, I was the first person to say me too. I created it because I've been working. With black women and girls who ben who are survivors of sexual assault and rape for many years, and this was my thing watching her assert her creation and like say like, no, this is my labor. I am done it. Here's the receipts for how long I've been doing it. How long been in this space and watching people say, Oh, okay, like that was hugely gratifying for me. Oh. You can assert yourself and say like, yeah, this is my labor if you would like to use it great, you're going to credit me and you're gonNA. Make sure that you know it's being used in the spirit of it was created like. Like watching that unfold was like hugely personally gratifying. So I want I, want other people who listen to the show to say like listen, it's okay to claim your Labor your talent time whatever it's okay to say, yeah, this is me. This is all me feel free to engage in the way that I'm comfortable with you engaging, but you're going to credit me. You're GonNa, pay me, you're GONNA value me. You're going to amplify me all of that. It's okay to do that. But I think for some of US stepping into that truth is hard, but we're so lucky and I'm so grateful to have other women like model out. And I. Think it's Hilarious because when you come down to it. Deservedly getting what you worked for and what you have earned as not asking for. Additions is just getting what you earn you. As you said, you have done this labor. So it's not like asking more than anything else is no. Just give me my do as well as the fact that, yes, especially now, as you were talking about in in media and social media finding space for some reason, and this has kind of been a theme for me throughout my time with stuff on never told, you try to understand why there is an assertion that there is limited space and that is not true at all and why that limited space is only contained for women and most likely women of color. All my gut, how much time do you have right? I. Think the like. Again. This was I'm only able to say this through like personal growth and self work and seeing other women and up the particularly women of color model this public, but there's room for all of us. The scarcity mindset is really rooted in. Patriarchy and white supremacy that says there can only be one I'm if I'm a black podcast or I can only I can be like the black podcastone aren't i? Lucky that midst me I'm the chosen, one, but actually, it's really lonely. The only one that's really lonely too like I I don't WanNa, rise up the ladder if I can't bring my friends with me right and so I never want to be someone one I want to say, okay, I'm the one, but I'm bringing her her her her, and then them them them with me and we're all going to make cool stuff together and I think this idea that. You have to. Kind of. Be Looking out for number, one. Is just off, really rooted in this scarcity mindset, and there's truly there is room for all of us. There's room for Oliver Voices and there should be. Should be, we should be elevating it and I just don't even understand this whole level of competing with each other. Really, what is this? WHO WHO said? This is the way it's supposed to be, and we know who said it, and that's why is wrong. White Man. Always. Always. Yes. Yes. I, guess sort of tangentially related in your fourth episode. You explored how in two thousand fourteen, I'm black women in twitter fought back against this army of fake accounts that were impersonating black women to sow discord online and and. It was really ugly and like clearly if to anyone in, no were fake accounts. But why why do you think that they specifically impersonated black women? That's a good question. I would have to say I mean I I, hate to say this, I think because they. Correctly sensed that if they were to target black women, people wouldn't listen when we spoke up I. think that win that happened. So this really amazing like like twitter power users, Shapiro Hudson who we speak to. In that episode, she essentially was seeing all of these like really strange accounts mimicking black women, they they had avatars of black women and they were clearly trying to sound like black women, but in that way. Your sound like someone impersonating black. Woman. And so she did all of this work reporting it to twitter. It was in the media was in the news and twitter just didn't do anything, and so I hate to say this. But I think that they the people who were doing that knew that if they were to target black women. If and when those women spoke up, people wouldn't care because our voices are just are just not listened to a lot of the time and what's really sad is that you know. A few years later, Twentieth Sixteen election. Those same exact tactics inquiry confirms that the same exact tactics or use to stabilize our election, right? It's confirmed and if only someone had listened only someone had said, hey, we have all of these. You know sock puppet accounts in persuading people. Maybe we should handle this. You know it was it was a online disinformation test balloon but essentially showed that like If we target these communities, no one's GonNa care and yeah, that same Senate inquiry confirmed that no other group was targeted in the two thousand sixteen election by this kind of disinformation more than black social media users. So clearly, these people were correct in their suction that if they targeted black people and black women specifically. People wouldn't listen when they when they came forward. And you are someone who is on social media a lot and I was I was wondering if you have seen. Sometimes I get this sense that. What you were speaking about earlier of. How important it was for you to see these role models claiming their space in a starting. Yes. This is mine credit. And in my experience, I feel like the younger generation is more, they're doing that more. So I wonder if you being on social media, if you've noticed any trends like that and also do you have? Do, you have hope that social media companies are listening to marginalized voices? I actually really agree with you, I, think that the younger generation. Is Definitely. I don't know if they're just smarter or Savvier. Or what but like when they put stuff out onto the world and is branded. Watermark on. There's no confusion about who made this that's been really heartening to see, and then also I think like community driven. Calls to credit creators. That's a lot of see words. But you know what? I mean, right? Like I'm thinking if the girl who created a viral. The renegade dance challenge. Tick. Tock Tick Tock, dance. So that was created by a young black woman thinking Atlanta. ATLANTA. Proud. She's one of y'alls But yeah, people had to when her dance was going viral at first dance was credited with A. Talker who did like like use her platform to amplify it, but she didn't create it and people on social media really. Like went hard to make sure that she got credit and said like no, no, no, she created it. If anybody is going on, Ellen should be hurt anybody's going to get the get the famous her, and so I've been really heartened to see the way that that the younger generation falls back into community and they let their community really right for them in ways that I think are really beautiful. And there's not really a lot of those voices being like, why do you care who gets credit? You're so greedy or you're just chasing cloud or Blah Blah Blah? No, no. No. I think that the younger generation knows that these kinds of things can be avenues to bigger platforms or whatever. So if somebody's going to get credit, it's not bad to want credit for that. You made. So that's really heartening to see and then to your question about social media platforms. I, actually think we are living in a time where social media platforms are listening more than ever. I in my professional life. I work with women's groups I worked with report, Alterra? Violet to. Push tech companies and platforms to be more inclusive, and we've had a couple of big wins lately. You know we had a great meeting with the heads of the platform read it, and they announced that they were going to be banning some hate groups on their site and like making some new policies and working alongside women's groups like ultraviolet and other civil rights, groups like a chick change the terms to think critically about their policies and their platforms and. Like whose voices they're amplifying and how like what is allowed, and what is actually hateful and like what to do about that? Just I think yesterday twitter announced, they were finally getting rid of the town of David Duke, who is like known racist? You know they were finally going to suspend their count for his account. So I would say that like now more than ever. I think social media platforms are starting to wake up to the fact that a what. They're what they do matters to people's lives. Right? Like this idea that tech is neutral. Tech is a political. That's not going to fly anymore because clearly that's not true, and so I think that's a really positive step and I also think that I. Think a lot of social media platforms want to be a better. They want to be leaders and say like. Like Hey, you know I don't WanNA BE I. Don't want to be associated with the bad actors of the World I wanna be I wanna be someone who makes the world a little better online experience online a little better. So I've actually never been as hopeful as I am at the state of the Internet for marginalized people as I am right now. So I do have because we were talking about being a political and does not going to be a possibility especially as what we see today and the last four years. What do you see or can you say to what we should be looking out for as as we're understanding? Hey, there things happening with. Things, being done whether it's behind your bags or being sneaky manipulative or for those who we should actually be listening to, what do you say for us to be looking out for out on social media. That's a great question I have the number, one thing especially as we head into an election, which is now like less than one hundred days away. The biggest thing I have seen is missing the spread of misinformation and disinformation online. You know one of the things that I'm really interested in excited to explore on the podcast is how misinformation and disinformation impacts marginalized voices so like. Biden is set to pick his running mate for vp any day. Now, if that running mate is a woman, which likely will be if she happens to be a woman of color or a black woman, which is likely it, maybe we'll be kind of disinformation tactics that she is likely to face. We'll be highly racialist and highly gender, and so you know I'm talking about things like deep fakes, things like cheap fakes where it's like, maybe it's a real video, but it's edited without a context and disseminated to make a certain point that was actually made you know. Things like using. Wedge issues to pit marginalized groups against each other. All of these things are things that like all of us need to be looking out for online, but they are specifically weaponized against women, candidates, and candidates. So color in ways that white male candidates just never have to face. So I think. We're a country that doesn't even really like to talk about race. Right? We don't we. We're not comfortable with it. Having conversations about it. We would rather not and I think that when we don't have those conversations were not able to really see what's going on. We're not even really able to talk about it, and so particularly when it comes to misinformation and disinformation, we have to talk about it. We have to learn how to have conversations that are intersectional that take into account, how these things impact merger is people differently and disproportionately. So I would say, definitely heading into the election keeping an eye out or how disinformation misinformation spreads social media is going to be key. We have a little bit more for you. Listeners please stick around. But first we have one more quick break for word from our sponsor. Night. was unimaginable crime. It was the second biggest mass murderer in two thousand, sixteen behind the pulse nightclub shooting people dead all from the same family. It would become the largest criminal investigation in Ohio's History County sheriff's requested state help immediately after they got word. In. 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Are you smarter than a fifth grader, listen on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. League. And, we're back. Thank you sponsored. I think a lot about how? We. Long time ago, we did an episode on canceled culture, and if that's in the news lately and a lot of misunderstanding around that. But how it is like. Social media being used as one of the few ways we can hold people accountable and how these things like me to do get started and like people seeing. All these other avenues have been denied to me. And finding community that way using social media to find community that way. And to call out people and like right now in the video game world, which largely avoided the metoo movement. Somehow. They should have really been up front. like that's finally happening and then when you're looking at like. Mark, Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos, all of them in front of Congress testifying, and just all of these things that it does feel like we're going through a massive shift right now in terms of. We need to take a look at these rules and we need to change them. and. I'm I'm so thrilled to hear what you said about read it and that these things are happening in that. They're working these tech companies and social media platforms are working with the people who are most affected and who have been ignored. So I finally yeah and I think again I think for a long time I thought like we'll whom I have like I was a red at power user a few years ago and then I was like driven off of the platform because of harassment. It was I had to make an assessment of like is this I'm doing. I'm a moderator on a sub. Read it unpaid? I'm dealing with an incredible amount of harassment. The harassment was starting to seem to creep into my real life wasn't a situation of like closed your computer. It was like it seemed where I live that kind of thing and I started when I was just like it's not worth it and I was sort of driven off the platform. I think that even with that experience, I was like, oh. Who Am I to question mark? Zuckerberg, who am I to question you know the the tech CEOS of the I'm not. I'm Outta a coder. I'm not a tech person, but we all are like, if you use the a lot most of us use the Internet and some form, every single day, most of us are on some social media platform every single day. Why shouldn't just because we're not a coder or a hacker? Quote Unquote Tech Person. Why shouldn't these platforms be accountable to us? We're the users, right? Like code is nothing without people to use it, and we really we fuel so many spaces online and intact. We the people have to be accountable to US right? Like when I when I look back at my experience on read it, I'm so sad that I didn't like, I. Even. Supposed to have that I didn't even if you like I could have a rightful voice about something that was happening to me something that I was experiencing, and so that's part of the reason why. I want what I'm doing this show is because they want everybody to know that you don't have to be a tech genius or mark. Zuckerberg to have an opinion about your the experiences that you're having. You're the expert on your experience, right? Like Mark Zuckerberg can't tell you what you've experienced. You know and just because these people think that they're. So, smart powerful or what have. You doesn't mean that they know better about your, what you're going through, and so I think like really take feeling like you have the right to take up base in conversations about the Internet Technology I. Think is is really important because when we don't, we're not able to have these conversations about our own experiences and it can almost be sort of like. We like for me. I almost distrusted what I what I knew deep down about what I was going through that it wasn't ray that people who are platform should fix it. You know that it wasn't my responsibilities to just like you know close the computer, I. I should be allowed to feel to feel safe on the Internet. All should and I think we have to do a lot of cultural work at retraining ourselves to locate a take up that space to have that ownership. So rigid. Tell me this as a person who? Petrified of doing wrong on social media petrified. And coming from a little older generation I was out there on facebook I came out. Yes. That was me What is some advice you would give to someone like me who were like, okay. I need to be able to learn to find my voice. But what does that look like on a social media? Like what does that look like for public consumption? That's such a what a question. It's tricky. Right? I would say. What's helped me? You can only be on the Internet for so long before you say something like, Oh, I, appreciate that. So I've definitely had that experience, but I would say in my experience as long as you are online and your thoughtful, and you're like with like open and genuine, it's almost sort of hard to make a big miss misstep. Right? Like people might disagree with you. People might say like, Oh, well, you don't know about Xyz and that's fine, but I think. For me, it's been about showing up online with honesty and with with a genuine interest and. Coming from A. Good faith. Right because there are so many people on the Internet who are committed to misunderstanding you right like like they're not interested in learning about your opinion and they're not interested in good faith conversation, those people can go to hell. Don't even worry about them. Right? There's nothing. There's nothing you're going to be able to say or do that's going to appease them. It will. They'll. They'll. They're looking for a reason to misunderstand you there willfully willfully going to do so. But for every person like that, there's someone who. Is Interested in what you have to say or who wants to help you learn or who wants to help you get better who like who was looking interested in having a genuine conversation. So I would say, don't focus on the darkness that people who are just out there to make you feel bad about yourself or to make you look foolish focus on the people who are there to like even. Even. If you don't agree who are down for a good faith conversation because they exist and I I want to get to a place where on our platforms, we hear more from people like that and less from people who dislike everyone your day, and those those people are not even worth. You're. You're not gonNA convince them like it's not worth the time don't spend your energy you know trying. To I. To. To sound somewhere. Above your laptop and also one of these because I've been really the last. Fifteen years but I know only three months has been someone like. Crazy crazy crazy ride when it comes to social media platforms, how do you take care of yourself? How do you self care being involved in that world? Because you're all up in that world and we're all in that world trying to be relevant in keeping up with what's happening oliver the country, and sometimes it's the only way honestly to get the truth is through things like twitter and seeing what's going on out there How do you care for yourself? So. It's it's been easier at times in my life and others. One is definitely breaks from the Internet. I work on lines that can be hard and it's definitely a privilege to be able to say like, Oh, I'm lugging off for the week but that's key. I. Have a friend Sabrina who will hurt from on the podcast who has worked in digital human rights in places like Syria. Yeah. We're like the news is like really really tough and she said something really interesting to me, which is that if you want to know piece, you can't be plugged in right. So like when things are really scary you, if you want to know peace, you have to find ways to unplug. And also had a good advice for me which was. Trust the updates that you need to get. You will get. So especially right now with corona virus and the racial unrest that we've seen all over the country, like it can be really tough and you kind of feel like you need to get every single update, but you know what difference will it make? If you get every single time update, just trust the updates that you need to get. You will get. You don't need to be plugged in twenty, four seven to get the updates that will actually make a difference for for your understanding. and. Then I would also say just having a having a really strong offline community, right like like I'm lucky that I have. A solid community that I see I did see quite a bit before. But. Like I like to stay checked in. Off Line spaces and that makes my online spaces that much richer I know. Okay. Well, the people who I who really ride from me, who I really ride for. They don't live on a screen they live in my house, they live down the street, they live wherever you know and knowing that I can check in with them and that they really. See me in a ride for me and that I love the Internet, but it will not be. It will never be replacement for like going for a high with my friend or you know going for a weekend with my with my girlfriends or something. So really saying checked in with my offline community. But also this, lastly, like not taking it seriously, this is serious stuff. You know we're talking about. Very. Real stuff, but you know. It's. Just keeping into perspective is I, think important for me anyway, and that's really helped. Write that one down to. Good. Advice. Guess. Kind of going off that, and we've definitely touched on some of the points. To this, what do you think? Is At stake here. Why is this so important? Why is it critical that we listen to marginalized voices about their experiences online? Yeah, I mean. I, think that you know not only is it important because we can all have a better understanding of the Internet and all of its ups and downs and all the things that makes it great and not so great. We have much all of us have a much better understanding of that when we make room for marginalized voices in the full spectrum of identity, is that make being online what it is, but then beyond that these things do you have? A very real real world consequences, and so you know from the people that bring your post mates or your INSTA- car, like how are they being treated if they got Kobe? What would happen to them? How you vote, you know if Donald Trump is going to use twitter to spread election misinformation that might impact how you're able to cast their ballot, right? Like understanding all of these real world implications of what happens online to people who are marginalized is so important. And it does have real world implications and then I would also say just. Again. It just gives us a better understanding of our world. You know. One thing that has been really interesting and exciting to me from doing this project is all the different intersections that come up online. My experience online is different than the experience at someone might have who has disabilities or who is indigenous or who is trans right like using the Internet as a lens to understand all these experiences better. What all of these different identities better I think is is so critical. So yeah, just making sure that we're making room for all of these voices and stories and experiences that make up this beautiful messy tapestry, that is our online life. Yes one, hundred percents. Fan Fiction is. Back. To you feel world. This, it wouldn't exist not the. Internet. Yeah. Okay. So we're we're gotTa, you gotta come on the show. So we can do a fan fiction Oh fan fiction, Internet sad? I have said I have long said if I had another podcast. About fan fiction and I would have ten listeners, but we would connect hardcore. Three partner right here. That's what it's all about right. We're all. We're all looking for connection. We all WanNa feel seen and heard and valued and listened to, and like even if ten people right lake, we're all looking for that. That's what we're all looking for online and we would have a great relationship. Very fulfilling. Well, I will look out for that email. I'm ready to go I can speak at length Are. There any examples you'd like to highlight before we wrap up or anything that you WANNA, tease that's upcoming or anything that we didn't talk about that. You think we really should. We haven't episode coming up on Tuesday which I'm really excited about I'm kind of. I'm on deadline for it. So I'm like procrastinating from that by being on the show, but it's okay. Don't tell Tari. No. No worse. It's all about. You might really appreciate this. It's all about the movie, the Matrix and how the Matrix can be seen as an allegory for the Trans experiences. Take a look. We'll take that on Tuesday. Oh absolutely. Yes. I am. So into that and and really it's it's an awesome podcast listeners. Go check it out Thank you so so so so much for stopping by sharing with bridget. Where can listeners find you and and this podcast will you can find my podcast? There are no girls on the Internet on Apple podcasts spotify. The IHEARTRADIO APP or if you will get your podcast on, you can follow me on Instagram at Brigitte Marie in DC. That's be. R. I. M A R E in d. like the city or on twitter Brigitte, Marie. And, yeah, you can find more information about our show on Tango Dot, com and I. Hope I genuinely hope people will check it out, and if people have interesting stories of things that have happened to them online or in tech I'm openly like looking for suggestions and soliciting ideas. So please please get in touch. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Go do that listeners and bridget. Thank you again and you're welcome anytime also. Lease yes, and got, I, think of your like a techie. Internet thing. That's sad. This is going to be sad and saying like dog photos and. We can find a great space. You had some pretty good pager stories that I found. Pagers, you'll remember the code nine, one, one or like. What's so funny is. Use The pager as of ten years ago for my government job. My mom is at position and she still has a pager. Yeah. She claims her I. Someone asked me. You Are you? Okay, because I have a flip phone, a pager, and then my actual smartphone, I don't worry about it. I came here from one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven, I, am a time traveler. Deals going down because. I would be into this episode. Be outdated technology. That's me. I. I think there's there's a space for that and I would love to. And if you would like to reach out to us, you can our email is steph media, mom stuff I, heart media, DOT com. You can also find us on twitter at Mazda podcast or an instagram at stuff on ever told you. Thanks as always true. Super Producer Andrew, Howard. Thank you. And thanks to you for listening Steph. I'm never told production of iheartradio for more podcasts from iheartradio visit, the iheartradio, APP, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hey guys, it's Mara from the trend reporter podcast. 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 The Poison and The Antidote

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The Poison and The Antidote

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I am letting my hair fly out it. It's all of its humidity. And you of this cute. Little baseball cap hon-. I do don't change the subject from yourself, yet, gem, you look like a glorious beautiful mermaid that arose out of a FOMC. Thank you. So Chuck sunscreen, a Starbucks Sonmez. Oh my God. SPF I've been you should be proud of me train. I've been very diligent about sunscreen, especially the facial, sunscreen. It's important is important because it's not just for like wrinkles, and stuff. It's like cancer too. Yeah, it's like really important for your health, and this is just a gentleman PSA. Yeah. The more you know. Yeah. I remember when I was younger like like teenage Jen, which I still am a teenager. But when I was a preteen rights, I didn't really understand are buying to the fact that the sun can actually make things like acne, blemishes and redness worse. Yes. I just assumed. It was like Erie, there, sunburn or you're not know it sets actually like you. You need a protective layer for many, a reason where your sunscreen, folks. Yeah, yeah, it can inflame yourself and gen gentleman. Franklin, you won't be wed soon. And it's sometimes okay, here's the thing. Is there anything morally wrong about having Tam lines? No. If you want tan lines, you can have them. However, sometimes when you're wearing a fancy dress and you don't want your halter, bikinied pop. And I just think it's a bit distracting, and I want everyone looking at me. Me me me me. Yes. Because in the bride, I only look at the design of your dress, not the pattern of Tampa. That's exactly right. I'm stoked. You're gonna look great. I've been a bit of a mood. I don't know if you could tell I've had quite a week Guadalete but, but you know what? I'm not gonna talk to my problems almost talk about my solution. Oh, that's you could talk about your problems, too, though. Born talk about my slow lose. Go ahead. So as you know, I talked about how my doctor was like to stress you gotta de-stress right now. Just like gr-, like good luck to me. I sure I'll if I knew how to do that I'd probably be doing it already. Right. Right. I probably wouldn't be stressed. Nobody's well, I almost had nobody's actively seeking out stress, but there's gotta be some horny for stress. Absolutely people. Get addicted distress. They get in there been there. There's Louis engorged on for the excitement of being stressed. Sounds terrible. But for me what I'm doing is every day I eat omega three packed being gruel. Get your being mush because my tummy's upset all the time because I'm stressed out so everyday. I eat watery bean mushed get my stomach going. That helps if I it would. Have the opposite effect. So as vegan as you may. Well, no, I have cast iron tummy. They can digest even the most dangerous of compounds such as beans sixteen being Kroger soup baby. And I I'm and I've been an eight that every day, take a walk every day. I focus on mindfully petting each of my cats. Oh. Or twenty minutes a day. That's so good being present. Yes. So only time I'm fully present is when I'm doing that with my dog or when I'm eating dinner. Do you have any interesting wedding tales or updates? Oh, yeah. Kind of. Well, it's happening. Very soon. Couple of weeks next month. Whatever is happening. And we, we never like hired a wedding planner or anything like that. But we did hire someone to be like the coordinator the day off. They're called day of wedding coordinators. That's so good. Yeah. They're basically like trends. They handle all of the like logistics. And they answer things like where does the catering truck park? Otherwise, that would fall to me or my partner, and like we don't fuck. No also. Speaking of president, I would really like to be as present as possible on this day. Yes. Because probably I'm only getting married once. But, you know who knows. Yeah. Either way, either it's going to be a good party. Either way, this is your first husband and I'm excited to make it happen. So anyway, we have a day of coordinator, and it's very unlikely that she's listening to this. But if she is, I want you to know I like you so much. And I'm gonna talk about it for a moment because she is the happiest person I have ever met. Wow. I walk away from meetings with her being, like maybe the world isn't such a complicated place after all this girl runs. I think on Roseanne I think she's just a happy bubbly person I've ever met. She liked come for money or something. Those are the only people that are happy right now. I think she works in the wedding industry, and she changed really loves it great for her having a career that makes her so happy or she's faking it like a fucking champ. But I remember when we first, we're like going to ask her to, like, do this job. It was around the time that the poor. Cake to buckle bakery, to buckle bigotry happening in Indianapolis. Oh, god. And I was like, oh, I need to double. Check the other people. I'm hiring aren't bigots. Yeah. For the most part, I didn't even need to check because they made it clear through their contracts or their websites are stuff like that or the FAQ. But I was like, oh, I forgot to ask this woman or not. But I was like, before I signed the contract or just want to clarify one thing with you. I wanna make sure your company does not hetero weddings, blah, blah, blah. And the question although I phrase I kept a very short and succinct kind of professional because I wanted to get a professional answer back. Yeah. And I think the question broke her brain, like in a good way she sent back a paragraph with many exclamation more. She just stopped making sense. Love is beautiful. Love is love. It's our most important thing in the world. So lucky to be part of so special people's lives today, the most important thing in my life, is my clients, and I was like, whoa, like a yes, of course, would have been fun. It was like beautiful at a little scary, honestly. That's how I want everybody to respond. And I like people in particular. Who are not afraid to say, hey, gamer gate. I don't care if you buy my shit, I hate you. Yeah. And so when I asked somebody, like, hey, like, are you cool with gay? I want them to be like, are you kidding me? Yet, even a quick. I want to hear that. Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful less. Yeah. It was pretty great. Speaking of love being love. Oh man. The question you know how we told our listeners a couple of weeks ago that we were going to like be a little lighter. Yeah. This is not like fell out of a question. We're going to take some like, you know, breakout times to give like lightning talks about positive things or something, I don't know what to do here. But like, we, we think that this question is timely. It is important. We feel like we want to answer it, and let's give some content warnings homophobia. There's a lot of talk about religion in here. There's a lot of talk about health drama. What else is I, I would say the homophobia, specifically from parents in this case? That's, especially worth mentioning. Yes, and oh boy, Jenn. It's your job to read it. Here we go. Let me know if you want, if you need a tag in. Thank you. Hi Jenin Tren, my friend. We'll call her mantha her sister, and I met through church. We were super tight throughout most of junior in high school and for a while after like tight enough that I went on family with -cation with them. So a couple years ago, a mantha came out to be as a lesbian. I was one of the first people she told and it was honestly such an honor. She said that she and her girlfriend were going to take their time, figuring out, how to tell her family because we all thought they weren't going to take it. Well, fortunately, we were right? Her family is not been supportive or firming, a for it's been really discouraging. And she's still pretty estranged from her family. Now earlier this year, mantha or girlfriend got engaged it was so cute, and I'm so happy for them. They posted about their engagement Instagram but didn't directly tell him at this parents soon after that, she found out she was going home to have open heart surgery to replace a valve, I texted and told her that her and her fiance were very welcome to stay with us while she was in the hospital. I would be there to lend a hand. The surgery went well and a Mentha was recovering really well when she had some concerning chest pain, but don't worry there were no major complications. And here's where the family issue comes back in, and where my question is rooted, her mom sent out an update to a bunch of people asking people to pray for mantha and saying that maybe the chest. Pain was quote, God, trying to get a man as a tension unquote, and that they had been praying that God would quote bring mantha back to them. Basically. How do I show love and support to mantha from three hours away so far, my strategy as opposed the idea that she has to quote comeback, or that her sexuality makes her need of God, getting her attention in any way trying to be excited with her about her engagement, and to suggest a lot of audiobooks, because you can't really use your arms for six day weeks. Her surgeries. No joke. I want to be supportive, and I wanna make her family situation less painful, but I don't really see them anymore. So, I can't really stage, some kind of stopping Esso's intervention her family, and I feel like saying, maybe they'll come around isn't really very kind. I know this is a big question. But do you have any ideas or pointers ho Kay, everybody take a deep breath before? I hope no one is driving. Well, listen to this. Yeah. Honestly, it's one of those things you just get angry or angry as you as you read I would love to start with the question off with talking about how little does actually has to do with Christianity. That's a great place to start. This has absolutely everything to do with a manses. Family's biases that they already had and ask her as you know, because you are very good at being a Christian literally Jesus was like take care of the sick take care of the outcast. Those things he actually said according to the bible, and Jenny we don't identify as Christians, but we are both from Catholic upbringings, and I love Jesus memes. They're my favorite favorite memes on the internet. But listen like Jesus definitely did not want or intend this. Jesus says, like a million things in the bible about how like the rich can never go to heaven. You gotta give away all your material possessions, V kind of everyone at all times, turn the other cheek do the thing do the thing, and he says exactly zero things about being gay. And that is that is affect the pieces of the bible that we ascribe to being a hey everyone be homophobic. Those are mistranslations of the Old Testament, eight is not a shock to us that people are picking and choosing the parts of Christianity that they like even. Though the parts of Christianity that they like are fully man made. I mean it just it just really sucks. We are not surprised that people are making choices about what they believe based in biases, they already had, and we don't wanna talk too much about spirituality and religion here because you're interpretations are so individual and so's objective. But we will say is that we can say pretty conclusively that Amandus family is not acting like Christians. It's pretty obvious. They're leveraging religion as a shield. This is pretty textbook bigotry. It's also guest leading cause they're pretending to come from a loving helpful place. And it's false that loving place that they are kind of dangling over a mantis. Head doesn't exist if the mantha came over tomorrow and said mom, I'm not a lesbian. Do you think that she would accept her? I don't think so no don't think so I agree with you. Ask her that saying things, like maybe they'll come around isn't very kind simply because I don't think that, that is a prediction that you can make. And also, I know that you agree with me. That Amanda is good on her own without her family. So when we work on supporting a mantha in the future, I think it would be very separate from her family. Yeah. I think you can't comment on the future of her ties to her family, because that is so individual. It's completely up to her. So I think your, your instincts are totally right. And I'm glad you're trusting them because the phrase, maybe they'll come around. You don't wanna excellently erase the pain and trauma. Yes. Even if somehow their parents do, quote, come around. We don't even know what that looks like come around might be. We'll allow you to sit at thanksgiving dinner, but not with your wife, like, don't know what coming around their version of coming around is not going to be what we hope it is. Yeah. I mean coming around can be. Maybe we'll find a compromise on. Could you be yourself just a little bit less and will accept that person that you're not a little bit more? Okay. I'm going to read the question again. But I believe the, the couple of still engaged. Yes, that means a wedding is coming up and my heart soars and breaks with the idea of, what kind of family will be involved. Here if they will be invited of they'll come what they'll do. So I think it is wise for you to do as you were predict to do, is what you thought you should do, which is probably not comment on what you think the family will do. Right. I think that listening is going to be super important. I mean, I think anything shy of well let's give the her name. Let's say Ethel, Ethel Ethel's great. I absolute rule. It's fucking awesome. When you reached out and said, hey, you can you, you're going undergoing surgery in my city. I can be a resource here. They need me goosebumps. I know gift you just offered. These people Ethel I wanna get your name tattooed on my ass, because there are so many levels of things you did. Right here, one, you anticipated. What a person who does not have a supportive family may need in a time of trauma people sometimes take for granted. The fact that. Oh, yeah. You know, just like oh, you know, get money from your dad or your mom will drive you to get your wisdom teeth out when you are. Queer person who has been rejected from your family. Those things don't exist. That support system is gone. And I think that it's so good that you not only antiquated what she would need, but you gave clear. Hey, this is the thing I can give you rather than saying, if there's anything I can do. Yeah. Oh man turn we've talked about this on the show before. But I feel like it's worth resurfacing because that's so important. So when someone is undergoing, a health scare some kind of family crisis, or I don't know if they're going through difficult times. And you want to reach out trend taught me this amazing thing, which is not saying the phrase, let me know what I can do to help instead offer what you already know you can do. Can you pick them up? Can you drop off groceries? Can you walk their dog? Find tangible things that you are that you can actually do. Don't offer something that you're not comfortable with a few don't like dogs. Don't offer to walk their dog. You know, but like if you love cooking for other people, this is a great opportunity to drop off some food that kind of thing. Like what can you do saying, let me know what I can do kind of puts the burden on them to come up. With something or to be like, no, no, it's fine. It'll be fine. And it's so hard also that you're three hours away and want to get the support. So it's not that you can just drop what you're doing and come over and bring a meal and clean their house. So we gotta talk about things that you can do from distance before we do that. Let's have a levity break. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. So in this levity break, I feel it would be appropriate for Jin to tell us all about her driver's license expedition that Shelby coming soon for a lot of boring reasons. I need to get a new drivers license and I am taking the driving test this week. So I have been studying up storm like little her Miami. How do you study? Do you just drive around with? No. It's a written test. Thank God because I'm way more comfortable studying with the written tests. I am like practicing parallel parking the irony of all of this could turn and you don't drive because I don't drive and I'm not gonna start. I'm going to continue to take public transportation, continued Mucci off of everyone around me the why do you need a driver's license because I need a need new license, and it's a lot to get like a state ID instead. Could I? Oh my God. I just sell them. I don't think I can I think I need to I think, well, okay I need a driver's license. And here's why my partner specifically asked me to get a driver's license because we are getting married soon. And he has some anxiety over the fact that if something happens, he doesn't want to be the only one in the house that can drive that is so good. And I was amazed impressed that he voiced this concern because he never asked me for anything. I would say the thing he asked me to do is. Canoe. I can't even think of the last time he asked me to do a favor for him. So I was like, oh, I don't want to, though, within I was like, yeah. Okay. I guess that makes sense. Guess this guy's never heard of lift or Uber like Hello. I can very quickly get us to hospital everyone you, but whatever, I guess we'll take the driving test. This is wild. I never had to I told you ain't never had to take a driving test, right? Really? Oh my God. Jen. Okay. So I've Hiver what I never had to take one because my driving instructor was a creep. And I called him on it. And he passed me an eye in told me, I don't have to take any tests bypass my entire driver's test. Holy fucking shit. Really? True. True story. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember God. So that's creepy, obviously, this is a creepy story because like he was this older man, who was like saying, really should he thinks about women and one day, I was like, and he was just like you bypass, the whole thing, which works out. Great for me, and I'm happy about that. However, this did not make me a good driver. Bad ass. So I, I remember a few weeks after a got my license, I'm driving my mom, and we start slowly like rolling off the road and she's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, oh, I forgot. I'm the one driving right now. And she's like, are you serious is what we how did you get your driving? Oh, yeah. Like I told you the whole story and she's like year you shouldn't have this, and I was like correct. Yeah. Too bad. So I. Yeah, so I basically, my mom like taught me how to drive because the guy didn't really. But I, I would forget I was driving all the time that's kind of testing. And honestly, it's another one of those signs that I that I have ADD you know, like you can't just like keep forgetting that you're driving. That's not good. Anyway, I love it. Well, it conclusion hydroplaning tends to occur at speeds over thirty five miles an hour. So be on the lookout for that. Thank you, Jen. Actually this really I'm dead in a hint. No. Yeah. I'm just dropping some knowledge pass. If I don't pass out all this stuff, Jen. Can you like have a sheet of car driving facts on the side? So every time we say something sad, you could just shout one. Yeah. Some of these are sets. I'll go to the I'll go to the light-hearted, one of the more lighthearted one, like like signing sinuses phone sign inches so much fun. Should we go back? Should we dive back in? So let's talk about tips on what you can do for a sick or hurting friend from far away. So you can take some tips from people who go viral on Twitter every pride season. You're going to see an influx of these incredible pictures of like a grandma wearing a bisexual flag as Cape. Or like I got this. Beautiful rainbow sweatshirt from my dad, who, like loves me, and cares about me and stuff. You're in luck that this is pride season. And this will now be very easy for you to do. We're gonna suggest some things that cost money and some things that don't and before we get like too into the weeds about that we want to be really clear that if you can't spend money on your friend, or it's just pushing the budget that way isn't going to work for you. You're not a bad person. Yeah. That's totally acceptable of one hundred percent acceptable. And like the number one thing you can do is listen provide words of African nation and remind them a hate throwing around the word crazy. But when you feel like you are, you must be the one who's wrong, you must be crazy. You're not you must not be getting all the correct information about this. My mom must love me, but, like there's this piece missing remind her that she has the facts. She deserves to take care of herself. And if taking care of herself looks like not talking to her family, then that is part of it. Yeah. I think it's a good time for you to be the voice of support. Presumably, this person can talk to their partner about those issues a therapist. You can be the one that says you are right. Yeah. You're not living life wrong. You're not enjoying life wrong. If you can go out and enjoy yourself right now. I'm going to celebrate that. This is funny. But it's actually just hitting me now that we might get angry emails talking about Christianity. And being like this, like the religion of Jesus is not anti gay. The religion of Jesus is about kindness and taking valves of poverty, and I don't care really don't care about people who are getting mad, but don't exist. Please everyone. I don't either. So back another things you could do from far away again. Pride season is to your advantage. It would be very easy to. I'm not saying like get her a lesbian mug. You know, but one time somebody very dear to me. Alex gave me a bisexuality mug. Oh. Right. Because it's got. T- TA. I love it. I use it all the time and I drink specifically it's one Cup of coffee in the morning. And then at about one pm, I have my green tea pick me up, and I always use my by sexuality mug. That's lovely. Thank you. Alex. Yeah. Like it's little things like that, that can make you feel like my identity is real enough that people are making God, damn sweaters about it. I wanna mantha to know that wherever they are getting their effort mission is valid one hundred dollars making them feel good right now in a time of let's be honest, personal crisis. Yes, let's not let's not call this anything but trauma, because this is traumatic what she's going through. Yeah. Not just the I mean, family health life changes being engaged, not having the support of her family like this is very serious. If you can identify the kind of stuff that makes her happy and then show, her more of that, that would be cool. It might not be those beautiful pictures of parents hugging, their queer kids that might make her jealous. Oh, yeah. Don't share. Yeah. Yeah. The viral tweets I meant you do that thing. Don't show her that other people's parents will with there being a exactly that will man. That's just I feel like crying had. Yeah. Yeah, it's yeah, because your friend is in the thick of it. Okay. Like this is this is going to be a dark time for them. And however they can find some light as valid, I'm gonna tell a sad thing that will lead into a happy thing. Oh, let's do it. So I've obviously spent a lotta time on tumbler and I saw post going around that I deeply identified with as a bisexual person, which is that queer people fundamentally have a different relationship with their family than street people because, really in any group of people, it is very likely that you will have somebody who's bigoted in that group of people and families are far less likely to call out shitty behavior in order to maintain the peace. And when you refuse to challenge the peace. What happens is your shitty. Title, who says shitty things about queer people that gets filtered through the kids who are growing up. It is really hard in a lot of situations. Obviously, this is not universal whatsoever. But it, it was true of me was that I just had a very different relationship with my family, because I just heard them talking shit about me without them understanding that they were for my whole life, it sucks. And I think that there's a component of that with most queer people, I would guess, I would guess that the that the fully understanding family is like, kind of, like out there. However, on the other side of my family. I remember I was like nine years old, or seven something like that walking in my cousins backyard a bunch of cousins on my dad's side, and I had just heard the word games as a slur, and I didn't know what it meant. I didn't get it. I just knew that boys were like, oh, you're gay on the in the school yard of talking my cousins about like music that. I enjoyed it was like the nineties. So, and I didn't and I was nine so I didn't realize music tastes. And I just like to popular on the radio at the time. Which at the time was Bonnie Raitt and oh, God. I can't think of the other guessing or that I was super into Melissa Ethridge up, I was going to say I can think of two that were popular nineties. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, oh, weird. She's she's gay. Oh, that percents gay to you, like, gay people. I was like, no I don't, and they're like, in my cousins who were like they're all than me, so they were like no twelve to fourteen. I cannot believe that this happened. All four of them were like no, it's fine to be gay. It's just like saying it's just like saying that there, whatever, you know, it's just another descriptive term and to this day, I can't believe that they all received that, like wholesome good message. And so glad you know, their teachers in their life, literally, their teachers or their family. Members of the coaches whoever was influencing them. Good job. Yeah. And ultimately, like I will always feel more comfortable around that part of my family than anywhere else. Oh, yeah. Sticks with you forever. Yeah. I mean, I'll never forget the time when a family member told me when I was loving, like I had like all these pictures Leonardo DiCaprio on my wall, and they were like. Oh, I'm so glad you're not gay. Yeah. And I was like, I don't I didn't say anything. Of course, those eleven but I remember thinking, I don't know that I'm not gay. Remember being like, I remember shriveling up like a little reason. Like I what, what just happened? What did they just say? What does that mean? Yeah. And then I also remember the times when few and far between but I remember the times when people did stick up for people who are gay, and how that is just like transit last week. Trickle down economics. It actually matters right? Man. And let's talk about bed bid about challenging the piece a little bit because because I think that this Askar because she knows the family has gone on vacations at the family knows the sister and also sidebar we don't know what the situation with the sister is, we only know what the mom has been saying, so we have been going with the understanding at the entire family is being shitty. But hopefully there's an advocate in there and that could be somebody, you could talk to. I got. I hope so, so challenging the peace and the asker mentioned that a manses moms sent out an update to a bunch of people ask her. If you were one of the people in that message it can be an opportunity for you to challenge the peace for the sake of genuine compassion in peace. I think that if you were mentioned, if you were sea seated on there, I think he would have mentioned it as I also think it may be too late to say to say something of this Email thread already went out, right? It may be that the situation is different than what we're reading it, it may be that even. Few weeks later, you may think to yourself. You know what I do want to say something, and it may be that it works for you and your situation and won't make a man's life harder. Right. I think it's worth asking permission yet from Amanda from a mantha. It may be worse you saying something to the mom or see you could I mean, I throw a bomb in there you know, as a queer person, and just be like, hey, everybody fuck y'all you could do a reply. All you ever was a time rate. Again, this is all very, it's according to your situation will consider whether it'll make things worse. Consider the consequences of saying truth to bad people. Right. Okay. So here's the thing about that. Even though you are right. Correct. Completely on the side of humanity indecency, it's still might make things worse. Yep. Being right. Doesn't matter when it comes to arguing with bigots. I agree. It's as they say that you can't reason somebody out of an opinion. They did not reason themselves. Into it's like arguing with racism. Yeah it's not a debate. Yeah. You can't have a debate about this. All you have are the facts. Right. It's like one of the one time I got I forgot I tweeted something that went like, like thumbs up on on Twitter. And somebody added me it was like, well, what about these things like these base this basic shit, or whatever. And I was like you need to Google this and come back to me, and he was like, no with these questions. I was like, actually, I need you to understand that. You don't know enough about this topic to hold a conversation. Smartly with me and I'm not going to talk to you until you do. Hell yes, set the parameters the discussion which is we are not discussing this level of this. You got to educate yourself to we take a levity break. Let's stick liberty break. Let's practice some DNV visa. So let's go on, on the can you give me a sexual giving whatever it is. Indepth descriptions, spare, no detail on what signs you need to know. All right. Train, I'm going to describe the sign, and you tell me what you think it means great quiz. You with him. So I never took the test. This is great right? Not the fuck signs me. Okay. So we have a triangle, but it's upside down. Okay. It is red and white caution caution her year. Nice. Let's drive one. I'm so excited. This when you go to find nail it. I think he will. I'm going to do my best to describe this. Okay. So it's a white sign. Yes, it has an arrow an air making a u-turn. But wait. There's a red circle with a red dash through it over the u-turn sign. What do you think you turns not permitted baby? If I'm on next question, I'm doing the actual quiz here, by the way, these are real questions. It's a green sign with an airplane on it is in an airport nearby. Yep. Oh my go- wanted to options here. Here's ABC. Hey, you're coaching airport. Beat airplanes flying this direction. See airplanes fly at low heights sewn. D. R. C flying-zone ahead. I don't even know what that I. Honestly, if you had read me the, the options, I might have gotten it wrong. Yeah. I could see that the airplanes flying in this direction one, I kind of like, maybe okay. This is a silly one blue sign. Okay. It's got a fork in a knife on it. Oh, is that there's dining available nearby nailed it. So good at driving. Let's do one more yellow circle. The circle inside the circle is a big black X. Yes. With the letters are in another are railroad crossing. Oh my gosh. You hear a plus a plus plus I make I'm ready to allow you on the road. Thank you, John. I appreciate your express permission to drive. I mean, someone should too, don't you permission? Okay. Should we do this thing? Yeah. I also just remembered that we did not continue the list of things that you can do to support a friend from afar. Oh, yeah. We were just you're just gathering. Yeah. Okay. Okay. What else can you do we talked about money if they are? Your friend is laid up right now if this is something you think your friends would enjoy in many people, you'll cut with this, you could have them have their house cleaned. Again that falls onto their money category. And another thing that, like some people something more like do not let people in my space, totally. Okay. And we don't know one hundred percent what your relationship is like, although you did use to be like, family friends close, like you seem it seems to me gentlemen. What you think about this is almost like they have a long distance close cousins situation. So, like, if I had a cousin who was like super awesome, who live, like three hours away, and they needed to like, you know sleep at my place to be in the hospital. I'd be like that's great. But I wouldn't necessarily be like, hey, do you wanna watch a movie over Skype together? Yeah. Exactly. It sounds like you've got some like fam- like some tight family nece there, which is wonderful because I sounds like a mantis missing that in part of her life. Yeah. Yeah. What else what else again, we know you're three hours away, but I think that offering to be there for things is helpful. Yeah. Absolutely. It's it may be that your friend. Amanda is not invited to Christmas. It may be that she's that she has to leave her wife at home. If she wants to go see her brother on his birthday, and that is bullshit. And if you have a large, like thanksgiving thing happening, and you're like, hey, Amanda and wife you wanna you wanna like come celebrate with my family and you've, and you know, that that's going to be a new space, then. Yeah, that, that could be a good thing because I guess the way that you start with this kind of mentioned earlier is think about what you take for granted. If you have a really good and support a family. Yeah. If you have a support network that is on. Yes knows your cues that supports, who you love you use the power of your nation and imagine what it would be like to not have those things. Yeah. And even if you're just like having a fight with your family, like the first thing that you miss is somebody giving a shit about you. And so I think the way to foster that kind of relationship. Ship of her, like here's a picture of me and my wife on affairs, wheel and you being like thumbs up. So good start. And if you're comfortable with this, and this, and this works view, I would say start doing that at her. Yeah. Encourage the normal things right. Something good happens. You're on that team. You're so excited. Yeah, yes, you are. Yeah. I don't know if you want to increase the closeness of your relationship. But if you did this is such a good time for you to do that. We always say, like texture friends, some memes, or whatever, but legitimately this made me. Think of you is one of the nicest things you can say to somebody. Yup. Whether it's a dress that you saw that would look cute on her or whether it's a hey, remember that thing with the eggs that was hilarious. He was a picture of a neg- thing with eggs. Oh, that's just makes life worth living. Doesn't it? Those little moments if you are having a passing nice thought about your friend. Tell them this is a good time. Tell them pride month can be a beautiful thing. But it's also an opportunity for the family members on Facebook to be really terrible. You got to be the anecdote to that poison sidebar current events, you know that whole straight pride push her shoe smashing off tweet about it. And smash mouth was like, straight pride. So good. I here's the thing about pride. It is a lot less. A my sexuality is awesome book. Yeah. I'm so proud of it, even though if you do feel that way, and there are components to this would we hope you feel that way like, please do, but pride exists because queer people want a month a week, a day, a few hours, where we can just not be actively ashamed for who we were born to be just like a day where you can't shame us. You can't hurt us. We're not hiding this is what we're doing. And the Horning of pride is often a topic of debate what it's important that people know, and see that this is this is also what we are about. We also we have sex, and that are sex is not less valid not extreme or we're or grow, although it can be I mean consensually, but it's not like gay sexism, like, oh right, right, right, man street people. I think forget how pervasive straight sex is in media. Hundred percent. Think of what the default, quote, normal relationship is across the planet. So Jen, it's so funny. You say that. So I have been having this conversation with my bisexual friends about how sometimes the biggest leap to figuring out that you are queer your by your pan, or whatever you are, is that you think yourself, you have this, cognitive dissonance of I've been told that gay isn't normal, and it's bad, but I'm normal and good. So I can't be bisexual right. Like I may sometimes wanna kiss dudes. But like whatever the Bizet back. I'm just a straight person who also likes men, that's the by sexual. Yeah. You know, and, or pan sexual, however, it is that you feel most proprio tied to identify. And so it's interesting because I feel like pride. Just just presenting queasiness as the normal thing that it is, is just so fucking, important anyway. Lebanon. Straightened sus gender. People are the most visible people. Yeah. Everywhere in every metric every advertisement in every it's pervasive in all culture. And if can maybe afford one month where maybe we get to look at something new, that's just as normal that should just be accepted. And let's talk about sex straight sexualities tuck, city and marketing boo. Yes. So often a Pretty Woman is just put on a product to sell two men. That is actually toxic sexuality having a kid show where like there are two dads is not toxic. It's reality. Oh, yeah. The old I like how do I tell my kids about this? Well, you should tell him about all the people that exist. And whether or not like you are a liberated and kind enough individual to be cool with other people's sexuality should talk to kids about. I think you should explain that us normal in loving and beautiful. Yeah. And like you should do it early because otherwise your kids going to have a whole. Fucking load of problems being an adult if they don't know these people exist. Yeah. I mean who do you want to raise your children culture or you or perfume bottles that are shaped like women? So more people will buy them. God. Jen, gotta fuck that perfume bottle on a fuck the shit out of that perfect vile. Speaking of perfume, it sounds like the name Perfumo, which is a character on Shira, and I'm going to say levity Brady, lovely break. So my buddy, Eric garner is a nice. Yeah. Eric's. Great. He co hosts the show with his friend Lauren fates called Shiro aggressive of power, and I'm going to be guesting on the podcast. That's amazing. I don't know where to listen to it yet, and I should have listened to the whole thing like forever ago. Because again, this is extremely my shit. But I've been rewatching Shiro over and over and over and over again. And I have five pages of notes on the episode that I'm going to be doing, and I'm so excited, if you haven't okay, first of all, everyone should watch sheera. Like everyone is just it's such a delightful. Lighthearted sweet thing and get you some night wine have a little Shira and fill your heart with love enjoying color. You know, we kind of need that. Yeah, but I wanted to talk about it because Jen and I often not as often anymore have had episodes where he talked about media. So, for example, few weeks ago, we were going to talk about the friendships and the Pokemon movie and then decided that movie made too little sense for us actually do this. We couldn't string together the plot. So we had to skip that up sewed. We just had, we'll probably do captain marvel soon. If anybody is like super into us, a dissecting the friendships of captain marvel soon, let us know but Jen seriously, if she were were shorter. I would love to have an episode about it, it just showcases all the different kinds of friendships, you can have. It's awesome. It's by Noel Stevenson, right? It's the new L. Stevenson, the sure her creative team is, is larger than just her. Oh, definitely. I just think she's the show and we were just cool. She's very young, she's very young. And she's doing an incredibly good job. It's just very funny and very good. And it shows not just good friendships, but it show. Conflict in friendships, that's resolved in a healthy way. So what have we not discussed? You know, I do wanna talk about the component of believing that sickness befalls people who have failed. Yeah, that's definitely worth mentioning because that is toxic and extremely damaging so this is not restricted to just people who are spiritual or who ascribed to a religion. This is actually I think even more common in atheists communities who are like, oh, the power of germs and. Oh, yeah. We get it. We can't we love science. We all believe in science can't disprove science acceptable their science. We know we all love it, but saying things like, well, I don't I don't know the belief that, like, if you had only jogged every day for the last three years, maybe you wouldn't have befall on this illness. That's bullshit has happened the world's chaotic I and I have to say also that my discussion of this is inspired by my friends. Private Twitter yelling about how angry she has been. So I have a friend who's sick often, and she always has been that way. Some people have, like lower immunity, milder immunity, some people have a more reaction to certain things, for example. I'm a little bit allergic to every kind of bug bite. So every bug bite. We'll be worse on me. You are not sickly because of your character you were not sickly because of mistakes that you've made although you know, you can make unhealthy choices. But to say that there is a perfect way of doing things they will keep you healthy forever is incorrect. And it's almost a it's kind of. A capitalistic contract to believe if I eat the right things if I'm exercising if I'm thin on the outside that I will be healthy, and I will never be sick, but you are not sickly because of your character unless your character includes like licking the unwashed hands of bus passengers, which you shouldn't do for, like, so many reasons and you can prevent things you should prevent what you can. But man, going up to somebody who has a disease and being like oh, actually, did you know that these carcinogens are in the pop that you drink everyday? That's probably why the year so sick. This is just the worst thing to do. You don't have enough context, you're not a doctor. This is all to say the Christian moms, belief that her failing of not being Jesus enough of not being not a lesbian enough and now her heart is hurt. What is sad sick thing to think about a person vile heinous? There's a there's absolutely no excuse for this, and we want everyone to rid yourself of the thing that probably exists within you. You to say I know better than you do, and your problems are your fault that needs to start being removed from your thought vocabulary on. These are biases were kind of taught, and I think misinformation on the internet is making this even more of a visible problem. Green juice can't save my family from sickness. If there were cures that just worked everyone would buy that, right. There's so many acne cares on the market is because there isn't there isn't one thing that fixes it because if there were we would all just take that pill anyway. Anyway, I'm mad be to this was a this was hard to get through because I think it's going to be hard for a lot of people listen to because they're going to recognize components of a lot of this. Yeah. Not necessarily just on their own sexuality, but in the failings of their own families, or in the worries about their own friends to end this on a happier note, I have to say the friend, thus at the center, the friend that asking that's asking this question is doing a good job of being a loving person. And I think your heart is your heart, and your concern is in the right place. I believe in you ask her from everything that you have said to us the amount of care. You've put into your actions, and you know, reminding yourself to be a good and loving person. I mean I think that she is in, I think a math is in capable hands. I really do. I think that there's going to be a lot of like that. You know, general advice that we have to give everyone which is make sure you're not taking care of her at the expense of yourself or at least not such great cost to yourself. Right. Remember that your friend is not a project. Right. So it's not your new hobby. It's like a new part time job this person. This person's problems with the family are not for you to untangle. Right. But you can be in their corner pressure. You can mindfully be a good advocate for them. And just, you know, listen. Yeah. You rule my job. I really hope you have a really good day today. Whatever whenever you actually live, not after listening to this probably not. But I hope I hope you do this has been French ping with Jenin Tren. If you would like to follow us on Twitter, you can add do French. Tip. 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The teens tricking Instagram

Reset

23:12 min | 1 year ago

The teens tricking Instagram

"Mm-hmm Samantha Moseley is seventeen years old. She lives in Maryland and where she's a junior in high school and like most teenagers. She spends a certain amount of time on instagram. I'd say like about five hours a week there. There are some people who I know personally and they use instagram. A lot more than I do but I prefer to keep my social media time down. I tend supposed about once every two months. I try to keep it limited to Life Prom homecoming fancy events like that so that when someone looks up my name they see nice food pictures of me. Instead of some not. As high quality photos Samantha has multiple fool. INSTAGRAM accounts. About five she says and the each serve a purpose is the whole wide variety. His I have a different account for each audience and different interests for each audience. So like on my main account. I'm more focused on like my high school. People around me all just like their photo does post things related to my high school and then another account is for more engineering and technology on that account all look at different robotics projects girls who code things like that. But unlike most of her peers Samantha and a group of her friends are intentionally messing with instagram to prevent the platform from knowing too much about them. We want instagram to have a harder time tracking us. What we're doing who we are where we live different things? It's like that today on the show. How a group of teens are freeing themselves from instagram's algorithm and the theory behind this technique? I'm aerials Ross This is reset Samantha is is about as tech savvy as teenagers come. She's into robotics. Coding Social Media and about five years ago when she was in middle school. She had an idea so oh I was part of a first Lego League team which is a robotics competition but the robots all made out of legos and we had a shared social media account because we wanted on and Everyone to have access to it. And we noticed that each time someone would sign it would change what it was recommending to us if you clicked on the explore a page on twitter or instagram. Ill show you different people or accounts that you should follow so we saw that those accounts were changing and the content was changing being so maybe for one person it was like makeup in theater and then another person it was like Technology and robots and things like that that insight that having multiple people use the same account can make it hard for Instagram to recommend posts or target a specific user with ads. That was a big moment. Moment for Samantha. It led her to apply this idea to her own private accounts with a lot of help from her friends. So what my friends and I have been doing on. INSTAGRAM CAM is. We're trying to off escape. Our identities as much as possible obfuscate to render obscure or unintelligible. That words going GonNa be important in this episode so me and my friends decided to start sharing our accounts in sharing our passwords because we wanted the algorithm that different social media platforms us to be more Confused and not know exactly who we were and what we were doing on our everyday lives. And we're doing this by flooding. The Meta data. Yeah so our name. Our location are different. Things like that. That a social media platform will keep track of so. If someone found around all of that data they wouldn't be able to find us in real life so we have been doing this about five years five years of tricking instagram. I asked Amanda to explain how this all works most simply broken down. We're doing two things so I. We have multiple multiple accounts for every person in our group and the second thing is we have password sharing across our group so I might be signed into two of mine mine. One of a one friend be one of friends see will switch out Who signed into what account at what time so that? You can't track the the countdown to one specific location user. It's constantly changing and all of the location. Data is based off of someone's real life. So that when you're looking at the location data for one account. It might be in Germany for one week and then in the US for another and by having a real person in our source of location data instead of one set ip address in a different country. It's more randomized because you get that. Real life randomness randomness. And you can't really predict what's going to happen okay. So in practice this is what it might look like. When Samantha posts picture on Instagram? So I would take that picture figure out whatever caption I liked and what account I wanted it posted to and send it to this core group that we have so in the core we have about seven people who know of all of the accounts that are signed in who signed into what account at. What time and they'll send it to the correct person or link you up so that you can send it to them and tell them what you want the caption to be and tell them what time of day you want it posted at so so they're in another country you don't want them to post it at midnight in wherever you are So sometimes that gets a little bit tricky but We try to to keep it as easy as possible. So like don't make someone wake up in the middle of the night on a school night so that they can post your picture from vacation and so once you send in your picture and your caption than the post it from wherever they are At the specified time. And that's how it works mom So tell me Samantha. Why do you care so much about preventing instagram? From knowing exactly who you are where you live. What your interests czar? Why does this matter to you so we wanted to make sure that if someone were to Google name the count that shows up might be our or account but they're not gonna be able to find us and know where we live I was worried about stalkers in the beginning but then I realized that this can actually apply. I too big companies who are trying to target different ads you. They're trying to target you've to go to certain colleges or get certain jobs that these companies aren't gonNA be able to control or have influence in those aspects of your life helped me understand what exactly you mean by by this whole college thing help me understand. How scrambling data the INSTAGRAM has about you impacts things like jobs or colleges so by screaming data so much we are trying to make it more difficult for those targeted things to come towards us? Colleges are emailing us in. They're like hey we saw you like such and such you like robotics because you have a robotics account well were romantic school So we want to be able to see those colleges but but also not only those colleges interested in us or only those job opportunities interested in us. Ray Yes so we want to have the ability to come to those conclusions by ourself and If a college wants to look us up only be able to find that public account that we you want them to see it. Sounds to me like what you're saying is that you're trying to reclaim your agency your freedom your ability to explore the landscape whether it's a job opportunity or college college without getting influenced by ADS. Yeah you got that wording like perfect so how many people are doing this with you. So right now Our group is constantly expanding and we also have people leaving as they're starting to form their own groups so At our core I'd Hyde say we have about twenty people so we reach out to different countries in different locations and we asked for like five to seven people in those locations sewer help us insight into our accounts in in exchange will sign into theirs and keep up this Meta data overload will kind of bug them every every now and then When we want the data really messed up? Why are you trusting all these people with your instagram passwords like? Aren't you worried that they're going to post something that will make you look bad so we do use a very big system of trust. There's a lot of trust involved a lot of people in our core group. We are seeing everyday we day so those people are the ones who have access to our private accounts. The ones that when you look up our names that's what you see because we know if they do something wrong we can talk to them in person and we can figure out why they did that and we can kick them out of the group if that's necessary. Has that actually happened not yet okay. Nobody has posted anything wrong or bad yet. we're hoping it never happens because it would hurt a lot if it did did alimentary school. You'll learn about people who are like lying is bad. Never do that but then you realize wait if I tell you I'm supposed to be in the hall in non classing. Let me stay in the hallway. I know that that's a bad thing to do. But what if I change my identity. Uh Online using that same concept. You told me it's bad to do that but what I'm doing is protecting myself Mantha. I really appreciate the time that you spent with me explaining this to me. Thank you so much for doing this. this was really fascinating. Yeah thank you coming up after. The break does Samantha's technique actually work and what's the story behind this whole up fiscal thing. This is reset capital. One knows. Life doesn't alert you about your credit card. That's why they created iino the capital one assistant that catches things that might look wrong with your credit card like over tipping duplicate charges or potential fraud. Then sends an alert to your phone and helps you fix it. It's another way capital. One is watching out for your money when you're not capital one. What's in your wallet? SEE CAPITAL DOT COM for details yet so instagram tracks a lot of what you do. I mean considering that they're also owned by facebook. Alfred ing thing is a senior reporter at C net. I asked him to walk me through how instagram tracks. Its users if you look at a friend's posed then all of a sudden everything related to that at friends. Post is suddenly in your explore tab right. The explore tab is one of the tabs on your instagram account where he basically it's like a curated feeds but for you specifically because there's the news tab. I think it's called the News Tab. Where it's you know people that you follow and Rosie explored? Tabloids might not be people at your falling. But it's like stuff that you might be interested in so let's say I look at dogs or something like that. All of a sudden instagram start thinking. Oh Hey this person is one dog posed. Let's give this person everything about dog posts. That happens that's to me a lot. Yeah and it changes for me all the time so like I'll look at one basketball posts. A friend happened to like because that POPs up on my feet and all of a sudden I'm getting all this. NBA means stuff. It really kind of a rabbit hole there but they track a lot of other activities on your phone as well so the Meta data of it so they know that it. You're looking at instagram. From New York City for example then all of a sudden you're getting New York City specific content right. They know when you're looking at it so the timing and where if you're looking at it from so there's a lot that goes into instagram beyond what you're clicking on and then just your browsing activity online so if I'm going on Amazon for example and I buy something there. I could get post ads related to that if they know him into a certain type of jacket or a certain pair of sneakers or something like that shirt and I'm getting sneaker posted post on Instagram as well earlier this month Alfred attended a hacker conference in Washington DC. Where he met Samantha Moseley? She was giving a talk about the way she she and her friends have been protecting their identities on instagram and he was kind of blown away by it was such like an innovative method. And taking on this like massive tracking machine that you know so many people have spent years trying to figure a way to get around and this was such an effective method to do it. Do we know if what Samantha and her friends are doing actually actually works though. So Samantha showed me her explore tab and it seems to work just based on how completely different like the the exports have is and I was kind of using using my own account as as kind of control to this right where I kept refreshing in and they were all things that like. I could explain like Oh. I'm interested in that I'm interested in that Even it was completely different each time but like they were all things that I was interested in where she wished mine is always like dogs tattoos and powerlifting video. Yeah so she was showing it comanche like look. These are like horoscopes. And here's like some animal stuff and like I never look at animals stuff on my account so and she was saying like yeah. There's like three people on this account account right now. And that's why that's that's happening for. This Samantha was mentioning to me. That part of the way they tested for this also was Looking at the Meta data that instagram polls from your accounts so she was doing this among her her friends who all knew how to do the same thing and you know when she looked at the Meta data for her account like what instagram knows about her her and the data that they pull from her every time she posts. There was like a whole flurry of stuff. So it'd be like oh she lives in the US but also in Germany and she speaks five different languages and she's interested in all these things. Where other accounts of her friends where they only had that one account would the Meta data would show something like? Yeah Yeah. They live in Maryland and they speak English. And here's like a few things that they're interested in okay so it seems like it's working so alfred can you explain exactly exactly how the method that Samantha and her friends are using actually works okay so this gets pretty complicated like she had this chart at the presentation that I don't like one of those conspiracy theory boards but this year So like the average teenager manager you will usually have their fenced account. Meaning the fake account. INSTAGRAM's that like you put out like for the public to see where it's very clean very curated very curated. And then there's Account just for specific group so like if I might have an account for my friend from college and then I have an account for people from work. I'm I'm an account for something that I'm interested in like sneakers or something like that So the way that works is that like. Let's say everyone in this. I would say there's like five people in this. They all have these accounts there. They'll share the ones that they don't care that much about with each other and then they'll ask each other post on each others behalf instead and when they posted their giving that account you know basically data from that person's phone so the idea is to spread it out among as many people as possible then it confuses them and you know the the algorithm is kinda messed up that way. Is it also about liking pictures that may or may not like like searching specific search terms that may or may not be related to that person's interests yes so the algorithm is also curated by likes So if you like one thing then you might get more or fat content. So when other people share that account then it becomes like oh I guess this person likes animals by this person also liked politics and and football. Oh ball now. All of a sudden obviously people are multifaceted. They can like all of those things but the idea. Is You know when you have like twenty people on one account liking all these different things then and it's like hard to tie that back to me right and I don't think instagram's a fan of that because then it makes it way harder for advertisers to target to you. Based on those things did Samantha. Come come up with this technique. Does this previously exist yet. So Samantha and her friends came up with this technique. I don't I I don't know if it was like a single person that thought like Oh yeah we can. We can all do this but I mean she gave a talk on it and she really explained it thoroughly at the conference but the concept itself of like a group effort to keep yourself hidden from a data collection firm or anything like that is not a new concept for awhile at have been called a cooperative obfuscation Gatien which people have been doing like shopping carbs for like the loyalty rewards cards at like supermarkets. They would trade it with each other so they wouldn't have all the data on like what I bought at the supermarket. It'd be like one card and be like fifty different purchases on it throughout the week. So it's like you get these coupons that are like super random And it's like like really hard for them keep track of that. Wow so just to be clear. This technique has existed before people have theorized about this have written about this. The innovation here is that Samantha's is applying this cooperative obfuscation techniques to instagram and having other people post for her and like things on her account I think the innovation here really is that they're doing this for instagram specifically but to apply to instagram and to do it in a way where you're sharing passwords and they're the at sometimes they weren't even sharing passwords. This is the other thing that kind of blew my mind where instead of sharing the passwords they would just send like the password reset links to each other Greek and click on. I've got my password then in instagram sends it to you and you can take that link and just send somebody who wants to log into your account because log you out. You don't get logged out when when somebody else logs into your account even when the pass through changes that seems like a problem. Yeah I don't know how long that will last now that they're honestly you know again. This goes against the law of security advice out there. That don't share your passwords of people. But I mean like people do that for Netflix. People do that for I guess spotify sometimes And and they're okay with that so I I think that's the idea here with these instagram accounts. Where they're fine with sharing passwords for these accounts that don't matter are that much to them and they? They trust each other a lot more than they trust instagram with their privacy. Why go through who all the trouble of doing this? Why not just logoff instagram? And stop using it or or use a VPN instead a you know a virtual privacy network that helps yes you sort of that helps Mascara Ip address. Yeah I mean I've gone that question a lot of my comments about you know well of these teens really care about privacy. Why don't they just not be on instagram? And you know I mean that seems like a simple answer but I mean I think you have to consider like the social hierarchy and fabric of being a teen in twenty twenty Where yeah everything? Everyone does is online right like that includes instagram. And I think this is kind of a way of not being on instagram while being being on instagram where you can go on and you can socialize with your friends. But you know they have all these accounts that don't matter to them and they can just drop them at like a hat but like they're sharing with each other so it's basically keeping that that data private for them at least for the time being and you know people do use VPN's to hide their location in but if you ever look at the VPN location data that's like tied to one address so it's very easy for people to figure out if you're using VPN because it's like the the Ip address just on that server like in another country right right that's like you use a Vpn if you want to say oh. I WANNA use like Netflix Canada or or something like that. They don't care about that but if you're if you're using a VPN for like two trick and algorithm like that doesn't really work because that's one central location and the data that you're giving them is still like your data like they would still know what your interests are right. So they're getting like real location points and everything getting like real data. It's it just all not who they are it's like very much a collaborative effort. And Yeah I mean. This is another way for them to socialize like beyond you know just being on instagram Graham itself this kind of creates a whole new element like social element to it of like. Oh like we're maintaining our own pseudo social network here so interesting I guess I I guess the idea here is you can get all of the benefits of being on instagram. Without getting all of the downsides right this is a way to really hack the system. Yeah they can still go on instagram and they can still like follow people and see like Oh. These are the things that I'm actually interested in But like instagram doesn't get that much out of them and you don't really see that that much you never see that kind of shifting to the dynamic so did facebook or instagram. FACEBOOK owns instagram. Did facebook have a reaction to your story when I reach out to them for comment they were kind of confused about what I was talking about. It I But they said you know this doesn't go against our policy because like I said like social media managers all go on one account also but they didn't recommend it because you know the security concerns with with sharing passwords and things like that. Wow Okay so just if anybody wants. Try home which is not recommended according to facebook Make sure you really trust. The people are doing this with. I guess that's the conclusion. Just think about how you share your car keys with somebody who share. Huskies with somebody like to to dog or or. Watch your pets or something like that. Like that's like you're giving them the same amount of trust. I'm wondering Alfred. Have you started doing this with your friends or your circle. I actually do have like a bunch of INSTAGRAM accounts. But I haven't done something like this i. I don't know enough friends. That care that much about their privacy on instagram to do it but if you want to get in on it let me know I mean I really do want to try this. I'm super curious. S. Alfred ING is a senior reporter at scene. It's this is reset. I'm Ariel Zim. Ross if you WanNa follow me on twitter you can find me at eighty irs. You can also reach the reset team by emailing resets sets at. Vox Dot Com. We publish episodes three times a week on Tuesdays Thursdays and Sundays. So if you haven't already subscribe to the podcast you can find us on apple podcasts. Stitcher or in your favorite podcast APP. And if you like what you hear rate and review us on Apple podcasts. It really helps us. We'll be back on Thursday later nerds.

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Kelly's Favorite Conversations: How To Love Successfully with Love and Relationship Expert, Samantha Burns

Velvet's Edge

47:07 min | 1 year ago

Kelly's Favorite Conversations: How To Love Successfully with Love and Relationship Expert, Samantha Burns

"Love books is the perfect gift to help you. Express your sentiments for your loved ones. You can create your own book with characters that look just like yourself and the recipient even down to the outfit and accessories you have the option personalize each page as much as you like or use love books express option which creates a complete book. With just a few clicks. Love books truly are the perfect gift for all occasions visit love books online dot com slash velvet to receive a special twenty percent discount only for our listeners. This is Kelly Halley Henderson. And you're listening to the velvets edge. PODCAST I get asked all the time. What are your favorite episodes on the velvets? PODCAST or whatever your favorite episodes Ben to do and it's such a hard question for me to answer because I truly do learn something or take something away from every conversation I have however it is the holiday season so I wanted. I just share some of my top episodes with you guys where I did feel like there. was that extra little connection with the person I was interviewing or I just walked away having learned so so much. I absolutely loved this conversation that I had with licensed Mental Health Counselor Samantha. Burns Samantha's specializes in love and relationships and she says that most people are missing the key foundational points when they're looking for love. She told me the two major questions. Everyone should ask an answer about themselves before they start dating. We also dove into the number one issue she sees happening between couples that leads to Miss Communications and unhappiness in relationships. He is our conversation. I am here with the Mantha Burns. She is a licensed mental health. Counselors is also the author of the new book breaking up and bouncing back as. It's it's about moving on to create the love life. You deserve hi Samantha. Hello thanks for having me Kelly horrors. I'm so excited you actually message me on instagram. And what. You can't remember exactly what you said but you maybe you would watch fair Cavalieri. I had and I basically said I'm like fighting. Yeah Dude and hopefully. I'm not creepy. But you you have seen my dating struggles on the show and kind of of could relate or maybe heard some stories similar and this is what you do right. This is exactly what I do like being on the show and talking. Yeah about your life and just the struggle. Maybe they break up your gone through. I knew I had to reach out to you because you are not alone. So many people go through a similar issues so talk me through that. Let's say like you deal with both people who are dating and also people who are in relationships. What's the main thing you see out out there with people dating now nowadays to me struggle? I guess because dating you know the most popular writer nowadays is online online so the way technology has influenced the way people are meeting has really I feel like dehumanized us into these little emojis on the screen. So so I feel like people are just doing all sorts are behavior like ghosting and just say anything other people like human beings and so there's a big I think bracelets gruden error epidemic right where everyone just thinks that. There's this Max best thing online with a swipe of a finger so people aren't really giving anyone a chance and they're making decisions they're dating Finish off no one or two little things that might not be a big deal in the grand scheme of life but because they have access to so many other options I think they're just being more critical and not really dealing with intent will so tell me what are a couple of examples of vowed like what do you mean. They're just seeing their seeing a couple of things what they look at the guy's not six Oh will or that. He's going bald or that they don't like the outfit that this guy or girl show in like really superficial things that I think people obviously plays a lot of emphasis on that initial spark for this initial chemistry or attraction which does play a role but it can also really mislead. You're dating dating decisions because we get so swayed by this idea spark or what's really lost on a neurochemical response that we're having for not digging digging deeper for the things that matter like you know. We both even want relationship. Do we want kids. Do we have similar believes on like politics. Politics or religion or spirituality or all these things that kind of govern how we live our lives which I call your own values the things that are most important to you So someone could be a really great match but because or maybe they don't call or text you like the exact second you want them to and and so you just like move on because you're pissed or they wait two or or they do taxi right away and he'll like oh the shoot easier challenge. They must be desperate even though realistically when you're dating from a secure mindset which we can talk about like it's really great when someone's communicative and lets you know that they wanna see you again. I actually love that. I love the no games. Here's at just putting it out there kind of thing right and doesn't it make it so much easier because you know what page they're on and you're not sitting there like your phone or trying to over analyze ways or own personal personal Alzheimer's energy figuring out decoding on or cave. You're absolutely I think that's especially as I've gotten older one of the main things dating that Bat I really really want is just to be direct. Don't WanNA play games because it's exhausting. It really is exhausting. It's interesting because there's Gender differences in how men and women like to date or be communicated with and so women Kinda like more innocuous like they don't like the straight up. Hey I find attractive. I would love to get to know your take out. They like someone who feels a little safer where you're not sure if their intention but you feel like you can trust some because they come in with like A. I don't know maybe they see like the grocery so this happened to me like last year. So I'm married but this guy came up to music. Hey how do I tell. These raspberries varies our rights. And I was like a single like I would totally out with this guy but that men do like straight up approach so if you're a competent woman and you're just it's like hey I really wanted to talk to you Are you single or I think you're cute like what's up. They really appreciate that oneness. That is so interesting. So that's that's more on the approach of people but you mentioned core values which I read a lot about on your website. Love successfully dot Com Samantha has a ton of different articles goals. It's a blog type. Things that you write that can give tips on dating and relationships but one of the main things you talk about is finding out if your core values line up. Can you give us like some more examples of those things absolutely so I go really declamation in breaking up embossing back so so if you want like a whole list those definitely check out a book but so core values to me are what matters most you so something. That's a core value for one person. Kim might not be a core value for someone else so this to be walked through everything from your work life balance career aspirations. The environment like one person might be really jazzed about recycling and minimising carbon footprint while someone else mike hair a ton about husbands and living an active as solo the one my odor church every Sunday or someone might really WanNa start a Foley. So they're they're very goal oriented towards finding someone else who wants to hook kids. Kids know who has family values that so many different things. So what does family values. One person might have dinner with their family every single single Friday night or by the live with their family or just night really enjoyed talking to him on the phone and they want to also find someone who's just says. Suzy asked about Santa Quality family. Time so it's really about kind of figuring out what matters most you've looked governs your life and then also I kind of grouped in with Cordell use things like kind of your life vision our goals. So maybe you really want to retire early to the country or maybe have you want to travel the world or you you know you really want marriage and kids so whatever kind of your life goals are gonna find someone who also sharing ars a similar life path or life goals that you're working towards the same things together and what I see though is like people aren't necessarily dating with intent and when dating intently the lining your core values so they might be getting together because they share a front and so were friends or have in commensal keep seeing the same groups of people maybe start working up that way or move really hot passionate sexist. Someone's you get addicted physical chemistry even though there's no really early underlying fundamental connection so I think lining core values is a very pragmatic approach to love and it's not the sexiest approach socialist. But that's what's GonNa Create a foundation for you guys to build off of in the long run and the biggest mistake people make they compromise on their core values values and that will always lead to resentment in a relationship. So how many core values like do all of your core values have to line up or do you think there's a certain number that it works. I don't like a magic number that I would say mostly off all valuable important to us so I was encouraged listeners. All sit down and say what matters most probably going to have maybe like three to five better like most important and then the other thing rather value all you care about them. It wouldn't be your dealbreaker so I always creep dealbreakers based on your core values so like maybe no would like accent find someone who's also on a is very career driven but it's not the most important when you're so we're okay credit compromising about that the fact that you really do want kids so if someone doesn't want hits you just wouldn't even waste your time dating then so maybe like three to five live album and then go from there but no you don't like everything in common with your partner and in fact it's great to have differences because you guys kind of like expand spanned each other as world news and introduce each other two different things that you're into which is great because this is the point of relationship not only share life with someone but also kind of expand your own knowledge and interests and hobbies and things so but it's really the things that you're just like you care the most about okay so that's actually a really good point because I've done a thing where you you know in manifesting you ride out the person that you dreamed up in your life but yeah interesting because it puts it back on view and what is actually important to you in your life and the life you WanNa create you have to start? You have to start dating before you even online and sleeping on people's profile at going on on days to become an expert on yourself you know what matters to you and what you're really looking or Before yourself focus on the adult in person. I think that's where people go wrong. It's like we create this wishlist of what their ideal partner has before all like who they really are like what matters most to them something else. I read about on your website that I thought was so fascinating with attachment style. Yes is that a huge thing you see the and dating and relationships attachment south or like I think the most important thing that come where they're struggling living life when I coached them around so but the settlement is so your attachment styles are basically. You would like all of comfort with closeness and intimacy and there's three types of attachment styles and they zone from early childhood. We don't have to get into like the deeper psychology of it. Basically they impact your adult romantic relationships ships so the three south are secure anxious and avoided so as secure data is someone who generally really likes a lot of closeness and intimacy. They are comfortable talking about relationship issues. Very confident we get along. Well a lot of people on their pretty vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable. Because we're able to put themselves out there but not knowing whether or not someone likes them back confident enough to express themselves versus an anxious data is someone or inches attachment style. Is someone who really wants desperately and but they have underlying your rejection and it stems from not feeling good enough not feeling worthy of love not feeling like they deserve this commitment and exclusive relationship and so so what happens is they then tend to avoid data so the third type is the voidance avoided as someone who also wants love with his love independence independence and they kind of feel smothered in relationships so they do some really bad eating behaviors like they shut down. They don't like to talk about relationship issues where it's going tape where you have a great day. You hear from them all week and you're wondering what happened and they kind of losing their independence and so what happens though. It's it's like a Kellyanne. Big From sexiness. City is just a great example of an anxious and avoidance early magnetized to each other Where they both valid each other's fears the anxious? Person is fearful Dat. Someone won't That that that don't reject them and leave them and that will make them feel badly about themselves in their worth inherently and the avoidance. dater basically feel that this person's way a to needy they want more than I can give and they're going to you know encourage them. It can't go on. That cycle goes on and on until you learn how how to break out of it and become a more security eater so I have a question. Can you be more than one attachment style. Can certain person bring out different styles styles in you so your attachment style can shift depending on the relationship that you're in typically if you're dating secure hopefully hopefully you'll stay secure 'cause you're also dating Because you don't you basically don't have patience for someone who's playing games and the person who's really anxious and might be kind of eternal It can actually cause behind more avoidance or dating. Someone Really Award and it can be caused you to become really anxious so the idea goal or what. I hope. Hope my clients figure out as if they're really anxious because a lot of the times devoid daters don't comb for help because they're kind of oakhill keeping people at a distance To the point where they really want a relationship but the ones who are really seeking help are the people who fall more on the anxious though because it is that they want love. It can't can't figure this out that keep dating people who are person them away or who are playing games not getting fed up and so they can start dating secure it actually really help heal their attachment style and their old wounds and they start coming you care person and set up like when an anxious person gives you know comes to them with their concerns a secure personal validate them out. You listen to them and help them feel more secure and calm them down on the. Dan Begin to trust US personnel and their partners reliable. And that is so yelling for someone so you can absolutely shift your attachment style depending on on the relationship that you're in and it's really important for you if you know that you tend to fall on one side of the yet continue on Ah That's so fascinating to me. I would say that's probably in my younger days was part of my story for sure and through a lot of work on my self therapy Dan stuff you do. You can learn to heal from that but that brings me to the next topic I wanted to talk to you about you. kind of mentioned the ghosting dating in. Let's dating in Twenty Twenty nineteen and I find it really difficult sometimes Because a lot of people do play games and I have zero interest in that like I mentioned before but but that's seems to be a very typical way to do dating these days. You see that a lot I. I've seen it a lot so much that we actually had up up. I would be hitched to do a brown on both over from the revenue not this phenomenon that we're seeing all all over the place and it's a really kind of selfish behavior and I think that you know people do it because they're not courteous and be with local letting someone down but they always say be like emotional maturity gang. He needs to have the emotional maturity to break out online. So my rule out. We'll have a lot of rules because I think rule the inflexible. But my will is that if someone expresses interest in seeing you again when you owe them down response because otherwise they're sitting there now like wasting their time and energy wondering from you and being upset that you're kind of stating or go soon energy. That could be better invested back into the dating market so send into simple tasks such as says. Hey it was great. But I just didn't feel a connection or run of luck so it's really just about humming more courteous. Respectful data is really just about being a kind human golden rule. Yeah you'd like accent have done to yourself We often over I. Those research at I forget the exact number it's like. Eight percent of millennial leaders have thanked ghosted posted research. There's another research study that didn't look both insipid. But it basically said the majority of people are getting broken up with via taxed or an email or nowadays from on not even eight people as conversation. They're breaking up on social media. What like excited to your? DM's and break up. Yeah it's terrible. It's Red Maury on their words. ghosted it one of my clients are GonNa work come home literally her instaflex upon yeah on here from him for A couple of months she met he hiding out at like his pants pose. Basically but low on the marriage. is Taurean avoidance attachment style. Great Crazy that is extra attachment style because they struggled about relationship issues on a stone wall so they would rather ignore problem than having the motions. Not Maybe difficult conversation right. Oh my gosh. So do you feel like like us. You see my curious supporter on your website of online dating. But do you. Do you feel like some of these issues are coming up because has of what you mentioned before like the grass is always greener mentality or there's always someone around the corner. I think so online dating dating accurate work. I met my husband. Online like clients have met people online so it can work but I do think that just this you know kind of a humanizing behavior because there's always other another option. People are just getting busy not carrying and they're hanging off all their phone because what happens is no if you wanted to ask them out on a date in the past awesome either in person or hiccup a landline and accu. 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But in general we know that That leverage single uses so just usually like to John are more up You know kind of like a bumble hinge coffee meets bagel which depending on your city while you live can be he more or less popular on many one more Faith so dot com which is launching has launched in on their their currently. It just moves the no longer match DOT com. 'cause they're switching more background so so yes so that's on so those are some good month all like to recommend a nowadays to. There's literally a new APP that pops up like every day so it just depends on the movie. The founder of the APP called will leak league which is one more often. It's based on enough with other people who Through like basically Lincoln right so like other successful working single but the problem. I have found that site. It's everyone's career focus and Nolan Ryan or thousand eighty. So so so you just people try different A couple of different ones and see what works best but don't feel the need to download our relating on like like there's quality people on every site I've heard it can become a fulltime job. Actually personally have never done a dating APP but the Friends of mine who do say that it's can be super time consuming. If you have too many of them absolutely it does condemn read it. That's like a whole or at least support time job because you're investing your priority and I guess my question for you Kelly is. Why have you not online dating? I you gotta get this question. All the time I think for me I have no. I always really prefer the real connection. So when I'm meet someone and I feel that connection or you know whether it be the eye contact the conversation anything like that and I'm such an impact that I just feel those things when I'm around the person person so I've always felt like if I do dating APP. They're judging me based on career or how you look in a picture and I just don't there's something about. Oh that feels really gross to me. I don't know how to win and other than that. So many devil's advocate and that is just that at the end of the day if you don't mind commute them in person ever Habat globals impersonal my actually clients to spend the the time online billing. Need impulse them. Because right you're not gonNA be able to announce the end the connection Ryan and the street almost person person so I kind of say like I'm maximalist. I said you can be online. You can use in your life but it doesn't matter as long as this person is in Uruguay Mike. So yes. Like someone's going to make the judge Hubert going to judge you in in real life to like they're going to think either she's cute or not cute cuter like cheeseburger teeth or those little thing right. I think that's like I don't WanNa be judged that way but if we just naturally do that anyway you're either attracted to someone or not but I don't know I know I I honestly like I've met a couple of people lately so I have been dating so it's you know I am putting myself out there but if it does dry up I think I may have suggest take the plunge because everyone's Ab take absolutely. Ah and when you create a profile the big mistake people it is they. They don't spend time craft it in like a thoughtful creed Mandic profile. They will slap up an Emoji home. Just lists adjectives Zuhdi adventurous. You know tunnel lower and if everyone everyone writes those adjective they lose their meanings. So you have to get really good at what I say. Don't say it. So you really WanNa bring your profile till life You know if you love to travel the traveler right you know just like out back On in the Great Barrier Reef Australia and I I can't wait to tackle Costa Rica next or you know like I'll fix and then of course tien of your core values for people on Malo Week at a sense of white you stand for what we're into what maters most you're dating rhythm can't find someone who has the same values that are more provide you're going to gravitate up up immediately. That's so true I actually like. I don't hear the other reason I don't do it as I hear horror stories all the time I have not really had any friends find success us on these APPs and I just hear about all the terrible as they go on but maybe that's something to think about is. How specific are you being in what? Maybe you're not really putting out there what you're looking. I'm for completely airway. Absolutely in Iowa encouraged clients to Kinda do like a three part vile routes news scraping by yourself. So you come away. You're hoping to me in someone else. US like what we ride on together. Run away every Sunday at Mill Creek. I want the power couple dominic careers at what is it about stand for seeking ally in your profile even on some of the folks that only gives you on route like one hundred fifty characters to five hundred There is a way to make it meaningful all of the other stories that the other thing to like I feel like people lau or they'd be dates that he won't probably wouldn't be the person on a date so I always take take my friends with like dating experiences or critiques with a grain of salt. Of course if there's like agree just awful behavior then You know that's terrible but there's one person doesn't like about someone really adore about that person so this is Lula Hall's not your friend lives right. That's true those stories. I've heard I would not want at that person either now but you said you met your husband on a dating APP I did. Yeah and lots of my clients have so it is possible But I think it has to move quickly. I think he will clearly on attracted to their photos. It's probably GONNA be unknowable. But if you're attracted through their photos and uh eighty percent of human misery people like looking for accents one long thing like us and his swipe left on me on on the wearing like a metallic hut teaser. Who Music Right? So it's just you know or like the Anglo knows other nurses candidate next Versus right if you're paying attention a great profile or reprogram make someone laugh. Ah Than Max Max have a explained on works change on an interview if the same way you might dance someone at a bar and the new exchange numbers and you make logistical plans to meet up on us. The Averse Hemisphere So many people talk to people for like two weeks three weeks weeks and then they need up. There's no chemistry and then you invested all of this time for what reason right desire number like as a relationship Cote d you recommend. How many people do you recommend going on days without a time? I've always been a serial monogamous. So like all meet someone and then we start dating like unless I really am interested in them. I just don't really go on more than one date but then I'll meet someone and we go on a bunch of days before I know it. We're in a relationship. Yeah Yeah I love. I always encourage people the date multiple people out one. You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket and plus if you go rejected it just it's e- feels better. Snow goes many other options out there And you're kind of distracted with your other dates room so that's kind of one issue that a lot of people have though is Either continue to kind of date around the world like one personal to chance and so it takes effort to like nurture a relationship ships so that you can really see if there's potential so you do hit a point where you either have to put both Zita in our sap singers and stop swiping online. Not you'll commit it to just one person exclusively and see if it has no what it takes to to make it work because when the dating multiple people for a a prolonged amount of time like never really putting in enough effort to one relationship chance right like how. Do you fully get to know someone if you're dating multiple people yeah and so with antennas. It's like if you're dating on talking about core values in getting a sense of what they're passionate about. And if you guys kind of want the same things after I would say. We don't like how you should mobile blood vessels and have potential. Maybe you're not necessarily ready to be exclusive of within by dates. But if you don't know within like five days that this person has then you're not digging deep enough and you're not like really eating eating within ten so you gotta ask some harder hitting questions while the be more vulnerable you know. Show them more and create more emotional intimacy but after five foods. You still have a pretty pretty good sense of who this person is also football well kind of committing an riding it out and seeing do we have it takes to make it work because the the worst. He'll I got you things off too soon with someone because people don't really like to give second chances committed someone you know. God forbid their boyfriend girlfriend on doesn't work but if you cut cut it off to really exploring it then you just miss out on what could be you know your your keeper. Your a person. Is there one overall blanket statement of advice that you would give to everyone. WHO's out there dating right now? Tom Overall blanket I guess what my work often comes back to the attachment style. Also I would just say like Mona types fouls and like one lane spurred because on with the idea date towards a secure behavior so what that actually means is if you're feeling anxious. Anxious people like love to go with highs and lows in the dramas looking feeling if you're waiting by the phone for someone to caller caller texted. Back if you're like sap prior prioritizing herself unlike you know you're canceling her plans with friends so that he can hire schedule wide open for this guy to call on. The personal dating is likely avoid end because they're not making moves low secure are kind of tossing at your among all versus secure. Data this person's going to let you know that they wanna see you. You're going to communicate clearly with them that you want them we're gonNA lay Out on the table. They're going to be confident they're going to be sure. And that's really the name of the game right. 'cause we all just want to have like a more enjoyable leaks with like the drama. That comes with bleeding Rudolph's reactivated attachment system because like real true love. Yes there was like excitement impartial. That last is reliable. It's consistent. It's dependable it's honest it's communicative like Mama. Those are terms but that's honestly honestly that sounds so sexy right. Yeah that's what it takes. A secure adult functioning healthy colletion ship. So when there's too much less than drama and you're out on the roller coaster that's a really good sign to you that your own Mwanza support entrap. I think that's so interesting and you did bring up the relationship piece of once you get into a relationship you do. A lot of work with people already in relationships as well. It's is not just about dating right right. Yeah I read a post on. Your website said the eight mistakes you can make in a relationship yes so so once you get in this relationship you find your partner. What are you seeing that that are happening in people's relationships these days? Sure well the there's so so much I think one of the big ones is you don't know how what district. Your Partners Levine Ledge. So if people don't know the level Way You like to receive rug from zero while them a different way than receive us so the work of Akron Simpson was walk. Praise and you know like love letters and things that let you how wonderful there's quality twenty two undivided attention with each other. The physical Physical affection holding hands kissing cuddling. There is this not so much. The material estimates offline thoughtfulness behind the gifts to be what matters most. And then there's lots of service so showing love cooking dinner doing the dishes. Eh Gassing up your partner's car these will help will make their life. Easier and takes offered their shoulders so a big mistake. I see that people are just speaking in whatever. Language comes naturally for the Shelhah but it might not be the way their partner wants to receive it. So you're really kind of missing the boat here because maybe you know you're doing when the dishes and cleaning up her house and all your partner wants us like a big hug or they just want you to text them during the day let them know how wonderful they are reform that awesome. So that's for sure one mistake that people are making is not speaking the love languages and then maybe just another one because there are so many Part of medication pattern. Right is when someone stonewalls or shuts down or on the other end like is an explosive argue are so you know there's clear way that we can become more effective in our relationship and a teaspoon clients but I call my glove glove techniques e which is soon for listen understand the ballot eight and when we can't listen understand Valerie. amplifies our partner. You're you're never gonNA have never going to be able to work through conflict because so many keep with daycare putting their point they just WanNa feel hurt and bill will the more they're partnering. The phones their side the more just China Again like Kinda dig your heels in and nothing ever gets resolved so it's really about validating partners emotionally whether you think they're right or wrong or fair like rationale are irrational. It's just the fact that your partner is certainly week so so it's your shoes and feeling glowing with them and you said you're hot so I would imagine that's really important Morton to you. It's like someone can yield Right it is. You're right and that's A. I think he can go. I can go to extremes at least like I being an impact after put up super strong boundaries in relationships because I can go to extreme what they were. I feel everything. They're feeling and like you said you can kind of revolve around that person but it is all about outs learning about yourself and I think you're right about how your partner when Thursday loves so it's once you get in a relationship. The work still continues of vulnerability. We're back and all of that stuff absolutely and I think it's funny because like well nursing and eating a job like that big run all but the truth is once you phone your one partner the mill to adjust the two of you for their own little bit happily ever after the real. The effort begin dating. But once you find some really exciting in the honeymoon's aid and all these chemical about making feel compassionate Will happens you know two kids later or a woman who's our job or we have to move or not all these life issues get Groan a- you want this person by your side which leads me to say another mistake. I think couples. Meg is like they don't have each other's back. They don't have a teammate mentality. -ality they have like the faster instead of the And they're not really taking into account their partner's wishes kids or wants or desires and that's one of the hardest part about being in a committed relationship. Is it holding yourself in your own. More Independent. Indi- TRINA interdependent. And be able to put your your partner's needs I sometimes the when you don't feel like doing some long you know you're constantly instantly Questioning like what is it that they want how can make their life to make them happy and only both hold us for our partners. Austin Austin learned to either only focus on yourselves right. What do you think the biggest thing people are really looking for in relationship says this so I don't think they necessarily Mo- because I think they keep it more you know superficial like everyone will say I just went looking before I just want like really hot sex? Yeah I just want someone who will go on dates but I think what we really need which sounds like is like we need. Safety knew that reliability ability dependability consistency knowing our partner has our back we need that open communication. Someone is our love. Language is on emotional channel home. So here's your emotional home. Who doesn't you heard under a sled? Lissouba certain alone unless free the world girl. I love this conversation and honestly like hearing you talk. You're stating all of the things I've been looking for and it. It truly is really hard to find out there yeah. I think that it's a great conversation to start though for people to really put the foundation back in relationships and the vulnerability and getting to know yourself just this as much as you want to get to know your partner absolutely and then I guess one question probably has the manifest. Has Anyone children's your your life. Your may actually. Yes and what's been happening waiting for me as the order of gotten in the more dating experiences that I have had. I've been writing down. What's not working for me? And then what's working and I'm manifested in years ago and Ah do think that it was a little more surface. You know. There wasn't as much true depth to the qualities that I was looking for in a person. And that's really changed for me over the years so I haven't specifically sat out and said okay. I'm writing down this man that I want to find. But it's been very intentional about the kind of life that I wanna live and the gas partner that I'm looking for And Yeah I've so I think people overarm manifesting can pass do not because on one of the first place in front of that I keep my feet up and see what comes my way. It's like roles lure writing down. But then he'll living her life and you're putting Taupin situation for me. People are prioritizing yourself getting like magnificent for healing life. That's going to be very attractive to other people. And so I think you know the rule side of things sometimes get a bad rapporte purchasing Oklahoma state down do anything. But it's like Gina and then being intentional about living life in line with what wants gate absolutely and I think even just saying living your life because what I've seen a lot I mean within myself and then amongst my friends is you. Don't WANNA put yourself out there and like you said there's always someone around the other corner so it's kind of easy to do the surface kind of dating these days and for me. That is not what I want and I know that but it takes being very vulnerable to find what I'm looking for you know and keep trying and I think sometimes it can be really scary but it's super important. An over me. Absolutely yeah and vulnerability I think is such a like the the perfect word because vulnerability being vulnerable. I mean surely taking letting yourself be seen without knowing who the other person is going to respond or or the wrong date so it means putting yourself out. Their own ability is not like having verbal diarrhea and laying out and baggage on the table like vulnerability thank. I've I've been hurt and Mav in the past that I'm one. What myself back out there without knowing if it's going to work while the Dan yes that's the only way that creates match and and I've I think most people are looking to connect? That's what I was thinking. Whenever asked you that question because I feel well I love that you ask? I sat because there is a really great match always puts out an annual singles survey and basically what they found was that just by all of these APPs in ways to connect that like over the like the majority of people over fifty percent. You lonely yeah. Technology has made made it harder to now so I think knock San on not just false sense of like online world that we wanna like deeply know someone into also Seen exactly wow Samantha. Thank you so much I can talk about this with you for days. This is great. Thank you I love that. Where do people find mind you so? I'm mostly live on Instagram at love six or also on facebook as well as loves successfully and if people people are going through specifically like a break up and getting ready to date again. I also have another account club break-up bounce back where I put him really funny just break up means I am a comment. They always good advice. Quality Information so make sure to read them on Mogo Dot Com and on your website. You Talk I mean I think you you have a practice obviously but you also do virtual sessions with people. If they're interested absolutely yes so I do work with Krant all across the country and even internationally telling so obligations for break-up Coaching Dating Coaching and relationship coaching. If you're currently smooth someone more like couples therapy approach so I I work. Yeah so I would love you. Know of anyone. Listening really feels like they need some hand holding and support and tough love girl. 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11 Trivia Questions on Single Word TV Shows

Trivia With Budds

08:01 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Single Word TV Shows

"It's eleven trivia questions on single word. TV shows I'll give you a description and you come up with a single word TV. Show that matches it. This is trivia would buds welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Today's episode is all about single word. TV show so I'll I'll say something like a country singer with red hair who had her own. Sitcom and you'd write down or yellow reba because everybody knows REBA. Everybody's MOM everybody sister. Breeze breeze aunt watches REBA. They still watch it and they talk about it so that might be one of the answers but I'll give you. It's not one of the answers I was using it as has an example and you will try and figure out all the answers to today's quiz using that very format so get excited guys. If there is a certain topic you'd like me to do on this. This show you can donate five dollars or more over Patriot dot com slash trivia with buds trivial buds be. DDS Give it a look see the other cool rewards. I'll send you or offer you every single month. Get ready to send out everything by the end of this week so you should have those. August rewards very very soon some very cool things like our apparel club club are DVD club and our sticker and print club so go check those out if you like collecting stuff if you're part of things like loot create. This is the podcast for you to support over fifty two people on Patriot dot com slash trivia with buds. Thank you so much for your patronage not too much else to talk about in his intro so we're going to dive right into single word. TV shows try and figure out all eleven of these from one of my live Trivia nights last week here we go all right single were TV shows number one a spin off of buffy but not very heavenly number one a spin off of buffy but not very heavenly. What should we be talking about. They're remember they're all single word. TV shows question number two you a show revolving around oceanic flight eight one five number to a show revolving around oceanic flight eight one five question number three a BBC wizard show that ran from two thousand eight two thousand twelve twelve number three a BBC wizard show from two thousand eight to two thousand twelve question question number four set five hundred years in the future after a universal civil war with relievers number four. We got rivers R. A. V. E. R. S. and five Hundred Years in the future. After universal civil war number five sixty seventy sitcom with Samantha mantha and Darren a sixty seventy sitcom with Samantha and Darrin Question Number Six nineteen ninety-five movie turns Sitcom About High School in Beverly Hills Number six here it is again a one thousand nine hundred five movie turns Sitcom About High School in Beverly Hills question number seven Elijah Wood and an imaginary dog number seven Elijah Wood and an imaginary imagine airy dog questionable eight high school extra curricular show on Fox ox number eight high school extracurricular show on Fox question number nine and outdoors show that made Yasmine both famous number nine outdoor show that made Yasmine belief famous number ten the Rock on Hbo Number Ten the Rock on HBO and Your Bonus Question. This is a tough one. Very few teams got it last week when I used it live for two points what show about a girl named J. AJ A. Y. E. Working at northeastern tourist location only lasted one season in two thousand four number eleven for two points. What show about a girl all named Jay working at. A north-eastern tourist location only lasted one season back in two thousand four those are all your questions Russians for single word TV shows. Let's see how you didn't just as second when we come back with those answers here we go. Everybody's single word. TV shows rose. Let's see if you've got all eleven correct number one a spin off of buffy but not very heavenly. I was looking for angel number. One Angel never to a show revolving around the ocean flight eight. One five would be lost. That's a show everyone talked about for awhile. I've never seen an episode lost number. Three a BBC wizard show from eight to twelve twelve would be Merlin number three like wizards view like British people. You probably watched Merlin number four or five hundred years in the future after universal civil war with reverse. We've got firefly. That's great show firefly number five is sixty seventy sitcom with Samantha and Darrin was bewitched a weird movie with Nicole Kidman and Will Ferrell number six thousand nine hundred five movie turns Sitcom About High School in Beverly Hills. I was looking for a clueless Alicia Silverstone in the movie not in the series on UPN if you remember UPN number seven Elijah Wood Imaginary Dog was Wilfred Wilfred Pretty funny show. I think I watched the first season number eight high high school extracurricular show on Fox was glee glee singing number nine and outdoor show with me belief made her famous Baywatch Hasselhoff and the whole crew Baywatch number ten the rock. Hbo Of course was Ballers Ballers and the bonus question for two points. What show about a girl named Jay working at a North Eastern Tourist Chris. Location only lasted one season back in four it was on Fox and it was called. Wonder falls wonder fall. She worked at Niagara Falls. Maybe you you remember it. That is today's episode guys. Thank you so much for listening and playing along and we've got a question of the day for brought to you by funky monkey designs of San Diego California go to these guys at FM DESIGNS INC DOT COM. If you need any thing printed they will do a fantastic job and you can have something printed in the setting of bill and Ted's excellent adventures see Andy Miss California. Come on go. Check it out click. The link in the show notes in what decade did the show booker with Ted Danson Premiere. This was a sitcom. What a decade Booker Premier with Ted Danson tweet me your answer at Ryan Buds are email. Ryan Budget Dot Com do eligible for prize yesterday's question today answer was boxing thing which was a million dollar baby question. What was the sport that movie revolved around boxing and your? Trivia team name of the day is boot. 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My first booth as a company?

The big d zone

07:47 min | 6 months ago

My first booth as a company?

"Right thankfully, wow, this must be day for good news not just for me not just for the Democrats, but also for my business. it looked like save city They have a revival and because of this whole covert thing, it's usually made people forced to thing but table city is GonNa be a freeway, baptist, church well, the Church that I attend street church have made it official that they are going to work with freeway ministry and they're going to allow them to have their gathering over at a high. Street. Church. And and guess what? Yours truly registered a booth for Big d country LLC. That's right. Yours truly has registered a now Now, my apartment won't be ready until the end of the timber. So that one not to the middle of September. Anyway I got plenty of time to save up for rights is going to be an timber tend to be eleven I think dilemma the twelve I believe. but. I registered for before ready and I just had to save probably I. Hope I don't have too much for you I because sixteen dollars each way. And then I had to have supplies for whichever ones that I am going to Whichever one that I am going to use a might influence use my travel agency Pity country travel. Yeah Bakti Country Yellow Seas I should say, but I would have had some brochures. And I also WANNA have brochure for some businesses that I'm still able to going on to maybe like if I still can't on The silver silver the. Ws Alfred or something by the time it is in a few weeks and like I said, I should have plenty of time if. The point will be A. Device. Be have enough for supplies for those couple days. I'll go to big an. Amount of supplies. Yeah. Not Matter Supply and also WANNA talking about my podcast and class. So hopefully, we idolise finis leaf wanted to captors. Of the class by leaf by. conference. So I, let me working at a booth. I may not be able to take part of have been everything, but I mean taking part in a booth. And I don't know that Athens for any. Any money for it I'd probably give. So that bonsor ship may have to go to the wayside I'm not sure depends upon win unappointed convened. Late on a CD CBO but if the ball Elif peanut before i. I would like to see the family before I mean come on. I mean, really really. Like. To see the family before move I mean. Its. Flock. Intel's on the mayor. Mantha. and. Wanted. Only, WANNA get paid until the logging to be that they're getting now. But anyway. Anyhow. Any. So hopefully I get my proof and I'll probably know but they said it was on a first come first serve and I think the they my band buddies for pointed out to me. While I was on maple getting the other update news like traveling fast today. It was time fast for the apartment. Then the bt take now the THE CONFERENCE TO SAY WHY CITY CONFERENCE Fast. So if I had to get supply. And hopefully, the it will provide the tables and stuff like that for the vendors. And all that good stuff saw. I'm excited. It'd probably be my first vendor ever as somewhere hopefully I did too. I wanted to do the fair I. wanted to do the imply fair but I didn't know GONNA be around. I didn't I didn't even apply I. Didn't apply I'm wondering do the fair. But I didn't you know thought to promote Vicki L. E.. But That's okay. That's all right. So hopefully I'll get to make them the money before move. Nathan. Little people and. You know. I don't know. No. No. But it's GonNa. Be a weird time with all these rules and everything like that and. I hope I will have the smuggled hearing people when I'm. Stuff like that. And all that good stuff. So. There you go. Good new this. Possibly I would possibly have a book at a book. A At they our. City conference Maybe. I'll be able to. Watch the conference. Porno so He Lay freeway minister. And I see this whole team. Maybe. Finally, podcasts in an improbable. Noah probably will add on my own booth. And you know like some places at their like some of the. Radio stations, they have live broadcasts on with I, want to do a live Pass from the from the event will be interesting. To See how? Patients if I can and. you know I, mean, I'm not sell person Margareta President I'm an entertainer. But I had to just. Give to more. Between now enjoyed, getting ready to move. And the terrible they're. Terrible but. Anyway amended have been right right while giving move. Wow. But. I'm. Jumping on it so The, probably, not going to be ready until the anyways I have plenty of pride to do the the first conference thou. T, shirt I got. The that'd be good chance to see the logo on it. I was had like a covering where most people have banners of the When I went to pot fast and I went to podcast movement. They all have banner with the logo with the name of the company and the company's website on it. I want I, want them with the logo on it and the banner. PICKY YELLOW SEA DOT COM Or? Welcome the big dig country like Dad. You know so. I told them I'M A I'm a travel agency. I am a Turn to put their podcast clack on podcast the. And also. I try to help people to your. Boss escape directly to escape the rule that. About That completely president now can. You. Bleed.

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How to build your business from the ground up

Elevate: The Official Podcast of Elite Agent Magazine

25:27 min | 7 months ago

How to build your business from the ground up

"Build today what you want to see Tamar. There's when I know when I started. I just thought would have instant. Results are really be like. We said it was six months before he sold a single thing seven today towards what you want to say Tamar. You only speak to elevate the official cost of elite agent for real. Estate Industry Sales. Professionals property manages leads. We bring you the best minds in business in real estate to help you list more so more and elevate your results to download your written action guide from this podcast containing extra tips, links and shortcuts visit elite agent. ELEVATE DOT COM now. Here's your host some Mantha mcclay. To another episode of the elevate podcast where we delve into some of the most interesting minds in business, and in real estate, for the very best tips and strategies to implement elevate your business I'm Samantha McLean editor vally agent and host of this week. Show joining me from stays. Shuzo real estate is transformed twenty twenty winner Laura Shusha and her husband. Samuel Shida so welcome to the show Laura and Samuel great to have you thanking. Me Yes last Friday was very exciting has doubled. Calm down yet. Yes, it was very exciting and plenty to do. Sorry, go on with it yet. Absolutely we'll let this trouble in real estate. You can celebrate for about five seconds, and then you've got another another appointment or something like that. Did you manage to get some celebration time in later on my favorite food is a polder sorry. and Bain a very busy time leading up to it, so I, finally wave of. And Satisfaction and everything wash drive me and I was in bed by ten thirty. Yeah, actually I loved that. Social Media Post that you put up saying this winter wanted chicken dinner. Is Very very very cute, so transformers a very full on challenge for thirty days will actually ends up being longer than thirty days if he joined earlier and I saw you for doesn't challenge you. It doesn't change you, so tell us why you joined the challenge in the first place and the main reason it caught. My interest is because targeted a little bit of a challenging time I think al out team culture, and by the taking a little bit of a hit, Iran sort of being over the place, and it was a busy time in rural, started preparing for an acquisition, so we currently have three now property management taint in bringing four. At the start of July, so I I sort is really good chance I. Got Commission from the current boss. Say Hi, would you mind if I put soul in this training together? And I just sort as a great opportunity shared experience in bring the together current tame in the new starting releasing. Amazing and what your favorite aspects of the challenge, the US challenge was really going to end. It was the unique selling point, and it was really great for our team to get those responses back, so we had to send emails asking people water out superpowers basically and to see everyone received. Those responses was really rewarding thing to take that next step and me to go through and package that off into it will one in line that what I do. It was really significant challenge. It helped me really define it in. And then I think another one. The himely challenge has been really great just to jump online and some great things out. A CD wrote about my childhood straight where we brought out. Eighties harm turn, and also just about w generally as well. Yeah, amazing and Samuel Uber along for the ride with all of the challenges. Well, what was the part of it that Ye fan mice beneficial rewarding albuquerque? I couldn't get quite as involved as Laura because. We've got kids there Salah so I really took up. I'd be more that responsibility, but I love live sessions, just being able to connect with these incredibly inspirational speakers and do so with the team so directly after each session we jump off and we'd talk talk three takeaways, and how we can implement something even from that point on and really use it to. To its maximum was really great and getting to connect with people at cloudy has been amazing. Yeah, I think it's been incredibly valuable. Yeah, cloudy as a superstar high. I love Jesus could incontestable value, and how he was actually sort of bringing it back to too much audio at they bring it back to the pen and paper I thought that was Killa. So. Let's get back to the beginning with you to you. Guys had your beginnings in a study space in your harm. Five years ago, it was at five years garden. neely. And Samuel. You're musician prior to real estate and we know that now because we've seen you play very complicated detaching. Just in case I've led a big sacred out of the bath. So tell us about the state of Your Business and how you went from. Will both of you in from music coaching into the real estate? Okay well, I've been doing music since I was five I've been landed violent since then and pick up a range of instruments soon, so that had literally been allied on for twenty five years. And when you teaching, obviously, it's a great privilege to teach the highly advanced units, but most of all you're doing is Mary had a little lamb smoke on the water. In that kind of stuff is only serve. Many times imply that before you. WanNa cry. So! I did be the sole so t and I WANNA. Get into another industry. And eventually my dad actually just said what about Real Estate Simon and it just clicked. I'll let you that's. That's that's GONNA. Be Somewhere. I can take my skills of communication and and and teaching and. Them in a different industry and started in a franchise and got a good start there but I guess you know I wasn't feeling. That was the long for me and we moved onto an independent Simon. That's where we ended up being a position where we say. Should we do this on our own? And Real estate was born. Yes, what was the early challenges of Waking Together from home? Well. I was heavily pregnant without Steph in child. When we started the business and Samuel had on. It is non compete took six months off to study in that so pretty poll and. Picked up a couple of guitar sue skating's taking over, but so started the business and I think probably the biggest challenge is expectation versus reality. Just because you decide to start a real estate business doesn't mean never. I'm going to decide to sell the house. And I think the level of working. That was required this needing to get that discipline and structure became pretty evident it was. A good story. It symbolized in a bottle of on some be pissed off. and. It took US six months to sell anything. You'd six months off and then six months before even sold anything. That's like a long time between drinks do pretty broke. and. But there's still a lot to do when you start a business, so it was a very busy six months. You worked really hard and between the baby you didn't sleep in the total US clinging, and and all those things we had a lot on flight, and we did have a little break over Christmas, and took some time, and then we got back into it in the first stay on the job I've walked past the study. Often maybe two o'clock. In the. And I've looked. Like Eugene King side. Unlike. Have you cracked bottle of? CIDER and you're sitting in the office. Drinking it, which is really bizarre, because alcohol isn't huge alive anyway, but it's like what is even happening and and sewer my pajamas. There is no coronavirus back. and. It was at first day back and. Unwind Ya. I don't think this is GonNa work so I sat him down and I'm like Samuel. I Love You more than I love the idea of running a business together, and this is the level you WanNa play at that's coal. Don't even man. Let's just call it now before we waste any more time or money and just figure. because. This isn't how you're. GonNa take from nothing's to actually one thousand nine hundred. And making a living out of the. So you've got to think about it and is. Justified by saying already made six schools, and it was emmy two PM, but I thought that probably wasn't great and I'm. Laura has an UNMOVING COM inspires you to Action From changed my ways. And sorry Kinda got connecting with some of the the industry contents out there, and there's a Lotta great content in these industry, so he plugged into that and. Saddened to learn what high-performance look like a level and Jerry. SORTA SORTA took a homeland. Your look like now it's made from the harm office into a little office in the survey day. It didn't have shop front, but it was a good first step may bill, and we started property management, and we love that little office. It was great. We had some really good times this great stuff. And then we picked up a lace on a really obvious yielding, it used to be the blockbuster building in town on a really busy street corner, so we moved into one side of that kid at it out, and then about a year later fitted out the rest of that building. When these new team Camargo will have, I think it's ten or eleven fulltime stuff in dumb of support staff as well will don, and you've seen married for fourteen years, and you spent the last four five years working together like this. So how do you maintain a balance like you know? I'm pretty much in the same situation I've ears. But on Cain tonight I have other people make it work. We got that lane. So there's the things that were H. would up and I think we really applying strengthens business. We didn't go into it thinking. This is GonNa to be great because I didn't actually intend to join the business when we first started but I think it helps that we're working on different parts of the business. There's a lot of days we get harming. Relax team together. We don't even see each other and I guess. Guess that make what we do. We really do love each other and respect each other in that we have a hot talks with each other, but also just having the discipline to work when you have to work and let each other work when you have to work in Konin be up front with each other about. When's the next time you're going to be able to come off the air and Tom Booking in the date? Not and the time with the kids and trying out best is hot. But being present with the canes when you with them, yeah, absolutely eighties. It is so hot and so I think that's really helped as we have the same vision dismiss. My separate goal for for my business, little or hers, we have this goal to reach as many people impact as many lives as we can. And when we push towards, that is a lot less friction between us on that journey, and that's been amazing, and just by chance it's ended up at personalities. Similar in the sense that the complementary whether it'd be for most of my sentences with imagine if or what if lorries of that? Let's analyze outlets the returnees. Ain't thinking and. I can relate to you. Samuel and I'm sure my husband can relate to Laura. Ginny both right. Yeah, definitely and say. How does it waking at the moment are Laura. You'll basically the general manager of the office in Samuel Yo the. You're the high flying salesperson. Is that how it conaway? Pretty much. And I kind of I. See it with the Property Management Team. And I get an do operational property management. When we vote, people are only so. Great joy of conditioner poets in older things All get do is when needed by the office. Do kind of used to describe it as everything else, so it was not a property manager a salesperson conduit. Samuel, just what are your TV, Samuel. Had offered through it almost forty I south. That's amazing. That's congratulations. Yay. Thank you, yea, Gosh, that is a long way from delivering Raymond. You Pajamas with pay Asada. Thankfully. Yes, I love that story anyway. Lower your spreadsheet night now, too. So what are your favorite tools and things to keep Chekhov in the office in Chica Lean property management. It's funny as much as I love spreadsheets. Darn support spreadsheets for the second spreadsheets where we've got tools in place. I try and make them do I. Need them to, so so we run property me, and I really just gone. Take lightly with how I can use. What's already there to do it and I actually been assist in there. There is a Tequila Pot. I can download into a shape and. and run some further analysis on so that's something I'm doing we use Asana as well to track what floors, but I'm constantly scarring at Sumer for other options in into the other ID's that how you could run things that probably the two key ones and we run equal crm just changed that a year ago. k. hit good things about that. When actually some good automations and things like that? It's always improving and I think when we first came over there. He work arounds Actually address them now. I'm really happy to see that and it's getting better all the time. Yeah, so you must be an original area, but you both is of technology. Just in general. You just demonstrated. And you've been using video in your marketing for quite some time. Who the driver of that actually? Proba we'll. Talk. Again, my brother and Mason. He runs thrive media, which is video brand consultancy person rainy really. Good one to have an corner. When we started out like we said we had no money, no much ID and the client base to go from said. You've got to stay out in the market and one of the best wising do. Let's get some eighteen visa properties happening now. This was sort of mid to late two thousand fifteen and hadn't really been done he so. We jumped on that and I think the first video I did was about three weeks after our first child was born. And it looks like it. And I sound like it, but immediately that saddened to make an impact. Secondly, we may the cheapest use to including marketing so that neely no, no properties mentioned Michael without a video like that, and that was a really great place to stop We've changed our purchase little now, because of the high of and and some of the tech we've got by. That was a great place to stop, and now it's kind of so. We do a weekly market update. Something you said you're transformed, said if you don't earn the market report on the market and I, remember I really cl-. Had this idea when we were in little I building online? She to update and just talk about the properties that have sold in town, even seen seldom. We weren't featuring really much salad. We will do arrive at. Yes, are we started that and it's kind of grant from there. We must must be doing. It nearly threes. Date and so that's been a constant feature. socials all yeah, I, reckon, nor just because sitted bit I. Think it's Great Strategy. The you just talking about this. Samuel as well like. If you make the video in the marketing packages, shape is chips who people saying in the video you and then a lot of agents I think miss a trick in the report on their own properties, and then that makes it hard for the consumer to go and listen to these this agent, whereas if you other reporting obviously, you become the authority. Which is really cool? I'd like to talk about one of the marketing campaigns that you spearheaded cody lease on love. So what is it and he came out with the ID? This is another one. We can thank Nathan for the tagline he's. Made, he's mulling lays ideas like what about newly so love and I laughed, and he's like always at stupid. I'm like no I. Just think it's so awesome. That's amazing. How do you come up with this stuff? And so it started out as a tagline for one of our radio campaigns that talked to that we had enough love full, the landlord and the tenant, and from there in Groovy. We had it on shop front. We had an ice deals with new lakes. Allow end it grew into. Christmas hampers that we did content, so we invite L. Landlords to pay thirty dollars to get a hand delivered. The first. That was store bought the next year. We did IT THEY A. Local projects and another thing we did on Valentine's on year and again I can't take credit for this idea. It was one of staff and said we get like. Dozen red roses and just take them around to L. landlords tenants make little video got amazing. Let's do it sorry. was also taught him the. Campaign. He remains Love it. Weird again. Is there anything that you waking up at the moment? With. Watching campaign going. Real estate and more dimensions, so when we started out, we had by sell rent, which is pretty standard in the industry, but we've added on learn to that, so we really wanting to go deep into the lend sector, and just a real estate anymore dimension, so we've had trading from two of allows sale and rental properties for about two years, so really destroying we've run events in L. Event Senator experienced center that we built and so yeah events. We Interviewed A. A couple of politicians when there was a lot of drama going on in the meteor about US running out of allegedly, which is not actually the case and sorry, we did some entities that help clean things about that. The experienced in like a I've heard about that I want to talk about that as well so I heave, got a dedicated media spice in your office. Actually someone someone came up with that in one of the pitches to one to create Cheyenne. Wallace was she inspired by Guys Barn. Thanks. Sorry, because we didn't really talk about it too much before then but. Hundred percent a right thing to invest in, and we were lucky enough to win a grant turn guard towards it through our local council business once so that was cool that helped with the cost of kidding out by really again, that was Nathan's sorry, the vision to us at having experienced center, and when we moved into the second stage of the office we allocated, wanted substantial portion of it to that, and yes, meatier events caught these cool college. Days in the ceiling that we control now I had she's cool. Yeah, we've got some nice painted brick walls, WanNa, blue one and we've got some black wolves and getting send suspended lighting that we can live down on telescopic opposites synced edge to. It's amazing how easy it is to create content when you set up gin I think that's Thing like make it easy. If, we get an idea we can literally just. Sit. There and we've got it. Yeah, yeah, and whistle valuable. Even the way clean market updates had the experience not we turned off the phones. We had someone stationed at front. Stop someone walking in the front door while it was happening, and it was a huge disruption, but it was important, but yet now no disruption just going get donald and get on with the day. Yeah, absolutely in defined that local community coming in use, it is eased by the paypal. It's really big right can that we've had other business coming and create their. Content which has been wonderful, that was recently as yesterday we had. An organization in doing some filming, so that happens Query Tinley, of course we've run training events, and all it out content generation from Israel so yet and other. We've had some other organizations relevance in there as well. To get to know people. Yes, fantastic am so is the winner of Transform Twenty Twenty Laura you had to pitch to the judges how you'd spend the prize money of five thousand dollars in its first time we've given away that much money, which was very exciting and terrifying all at once, and you've come up with yet. Another great marketing ID, so can you tell us what your energy was? SORTA. Broke down into three pots, and the I was say anchorage community to get involved in putting some real content on highly dot a you. I think someone wasn't paying too highly, and it was nice to see the agency involved jump on and improved avenue be grapes as much when people who live here on this part of it will be prize money to really encourage people to jump on, insists impressions and say the things I love about dubber and from there the next. is to run some more pumped through face hoping instead of getting people to comment about local places in local people so places. They love visiting including businesses, it also attractions and pox and things, and then people who just deserve shout and again using some of that money is prize money, and it would always be done in shopping cards, which can be used at one hundred and thirty like we'll businesses. And then the puck three, which is be mulling on for Awhile I I. Just I love stuffing and chatting with people that ANA unknowable outweigh dumber came from and debate abuse same just randomly. The IT seemed to always come up when I was chatting with. Someone wanted to destroy capture all these stories, so I came up with the idea to run like a local. He street crime. It's not a competition just to find out who are these people? Have, these great knowledge history, and then packaged up that industry, pausing to a book that we can have people to down larger thinking about moving hand, but also create a m a hot coffee. Give out Taber on WHO's involved. It's an amazing idea ought did see similar. There was someone I interviewed in in Melvin Michael Love He's written in the magazine and A. A couple of times, but he's a generation real estate agent. They've got this beautiful cold love real estate and it's hard. Covering a does go through the whole history of the area. You know when I heard you saying that I thought that such a beautiful idea, because then you giving somebody something that actually means something to them. Yeah, yeah to the area. What would you say to folks considering during Transform Nick St Maybe? Get on it I think mental. Designing I. Just kliesch edge a little bit, and and I think you get the most out of it by really going so just be prepared to spend a few nights on the stuff. You don't Wanna be able to get it all done during the day when you're trying to stem cell and and do all those things, but yeah cal at a time in the evenings on the. The morning you're not a wanting person and really guard date and the amount of valuable content, even just in the extra pass and things eastern on were just great and yet so much to get out of it amazing said what's next for you guys? Well, domination youth is Laura. We currently just getting started really I. Think we. We finally feel like we've. Kinda graduated from not really knowing what we're doing, which is a really great feeling pretty much just more of the same. We just WANNA serve double, Bell, we wanNA find new ways to champion community. The people who are here the other businesses who he. I guess more of the signing, but increase volume. Yeah, absolutely, BET YOU SAMUEL! You're pretty saying just wanting to continue to develop at team so they becoming the best people not much agents, best people they can, and hopefully doing what we're doing Samba on a greater scale again, the goal for the foreseeable future San nightime fair guitar lessons like me. It's being. It's being basically five years and I still get asked giving out again. Sorry. You know what it's funny. You were saying before bats Mike on the water and stuff, because people might be confused listening this bit. I tried to play guitar a few times during transform just to entertain everyone. Mock is now book me to Qatar Listens. Thankfully everyone everyone can be thankful for that, but the first thing someone asked me for his. Can you place Mike on the water or pink? Floyd? Avoids Locked Good Eagles chain. is been lovely spending some time with you and you guys have been absolutely awesome during transforming and everything in Laurie. Peach was wonderful and we've just loved sort of waking with you for the last city dies and also thank you for sharing your knowledge today in this podcast because i. think some of the things that you're doing are amazing with the media Raymond and all that sort of stuff there was. Was One thing that you would like the audience. Take away from this podcast. WHAT WOULD BE I? Think just always kate learning and be curious, said if you get ideas like plush out and see where they take you and it just it is an amazing industry, but a lot of the things that make you successful. I saw office is really boring, so you've got to keep that optimism in being realistic. You, Samuel, what would you advise? agents may be listening to these Abu King from me. Is Build today what you want to see Tamar because when I know I started I. Just thought I'd have instant results and are really Michael said it was six months before he sold a single thing, so build today towards what you WanNa. Say to mar and Laura's government optimistic by you have to have that level of of realism as well for me. Everything I do I anticipate the best outcome and Laura much more realistic, so there's been that right balance. Go Hide and along. Yeah, well like how? You guys g next you both awesome Laura shoot us. I'm Yoshida. Thank you so much. 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Episode 13: Easy Trader Joes Dinner Ideas

Long Story Short with Megan and Wendy: The Podcast

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Episode 13: Easy Trader Joes Dinner Ideas

"Hey everybody welcome to long story short. The podcast i'm megan. I'm wendy and we're so glad you're here with us today. We are all about real life solutions for real women but at the heart of it. We're just two friends chatting about life leader in today's episode. We're going to talk about our favorite quick and easy trader. Joe's dinners because somehow no matter what our families still dinner every night. But i find is outside. The podcast at the best place to start is our website making end wendy dot com which houses links to everywhere else. You can find our podcast. Show notes there as well as regularly updated blog posts. You can join our facebook group. Which is long story short is. There's a fast and furious. Discussion of bridgeton happening in there right now and all of our plans were at home. Haircare hop on in and you can meet us on instagram where we are at meghan and wendy l. s. s. which of course stands for long story short. All those places are great. But i also want to see some emails from you guys. Megan and wendy at g mail dot com. We love them. We got a ton of messages. This weekend we'll talk about that a little bit later Yes so you can email your questions your thoughts about the show show topics anything. We're all ears. Yes we would love to hear from you now. We have a lot to talk about today but very very first. Let's rewind a little bit. Last week's episode. We're both recorded pre capital insurrection. In fact thursday's episode. We recorded wednesday morning and as we were finishing were getting the twitter notifications that. The capital was on lockdown so Those were recorded before we had anything to discuss. Obviously a lot has changed in the past several days recording this on monday morning and we made episode all about our new year's resolutions our hope for a brighter. Twenty twenty one and we should have known better really. Yeah i mean. My word of the year is strength. I'm still standing strong so might not completely obliterated yet but it's been a weird couple of days so the social media is a weird animal and i. We were spending the majority of our time. Initially on twitter Both taking in and posting but as the week progressed we were sharing information and sharing our thoughts and our instagram. And that's not new especially in the past nine months. That's really not new. You know we have been sharing our thoughts above and beyond what the long story short brand is known for their but it drew some ire this weekend and we got a message that was cloaked as business advice. You know saying look you need to stay in your lane. This isn't good for business. And my initial response was respectfully no. We're not going to do that. This isn't while of course. This is based in a lot of political unrest. A lot of this isn't political to us. We don't believe that saying that black lives matter is political. We don't believe that saying that. We denounce anti-semitism is political. These aren't political things but at the same time choosing not to be political is a privilege. Were trying really hard and not necessarily experts in speaking out and doing the right thing but we are certainly not interested in not saying what we think. And we're certainly not interested in only speaking about the things that affect our little orange county white lady lives. I just want to say that we plan to continue creating the kind of content. We've been creating. We're going to make episodes about hallmark movies. We're also going to say when we think that things are wrong right. I mean we're humans we are allowed to. This is what made me so mad about. That message was like she was telling us. We had to be boxed into this idea. This our brand we are brand was at risk and i just thought like that is so ridiculous because from go we have always been who we are we've always been our true selves right. Even if for whatever our feelings on candy or eminem zarina back in the day when we were all that stuff. But we've always been true to ourselves and our opinions. I think that's who what works. Best for us. And what the feedback. That we've gotten is that we are organically us anyway when we receive such like messages that we need to stay in this box because there could be a threat to our success or whatever. I just thought like you need to back the fuck up lady like. I couldn't believe that somebody was coming at us from that angle. If you're not liking what we're saying or posting or have opinions on keep scrolling. We are interested in hearing feedback from our community. But one thing i said is we value our community. We value the conversations that we have but we do not value it to the point at which we're willing to keep it at any cost. We're not gonna talk specifics about the message we got but i thought that our response to her was like you said it was respectfully no. We're going to use our platform. For what how we see fit. And then she just unloaded. She obviously had an agenda and it was clear that she was happy. Because our politics don't fit her politics. Got a ton of support messages. And i would imagine we also had some people see themselves out and we recognize that there are consequences for the things you post on social media positive negative and sometimes people decide that they're not a good fit for you and we have made that decision. You know individually about people that we follow as well. that's just the way it worked so There it is in much much lighter news. A great thing is happening on instagram. Actually think it's tiktok. I think you're right. It was originally tiktok and then re shared to instagram. I've seen it. Do you guys know of broccoli casserole song. I sing all day long. Do you really can't she. She stole my broccoli casserole. Recipes us i do. She claimed was her. Okay a really great beat you. That's the thing is he's actually talented. Oh no he's like are legit musician i did. I did some research on him. His name is lou lubin lynn. It's l. u. b. a. l. I n. he's a canadian artist. He actually released an album in late. Twenty twenty which. I found a video on. He had a video for a song called. Don't know and it's really good. It's really good so it's kind of funny that he has these like you know internet drama songs too especially this broccoli casserole one. Have you watched the other one. I did something about a phone call or text message from the selling something online text exchange but the funny thing about that one is his facial expressions are so good. Look of course. We're going to leave willing to this in our show notes. Do yourself a favor and click through these videos because they bring me so much joy. Yeah i wish he could eh make a song for the message. We got this weekend. That would be so recently. We've been talking about our small town dreams. And i can't remember if we talked about on hallmark episode. Or did we you. It's the conversation began because you were you numbered with the coffee carts in taking a shot at love. Yes a coffee cart and you guys want to open a ice cream. Shot guys your husband. You have no such dreams of working in food service ever. Because i have the utmost respect people that do what is i. Think mostly a thankless job and quite frankly like my idea of moving to a small town is to have this quiet slow life and you know working. Coffee card is early in the morning. Jolt but i like the idea of our side by side. Businesses et cetera. Well i like the idea of our side by side houses with our with our podcast studio so this all came up again this weekend because mega had found somebody on instagram. Who has a fountain machine in their house. And so i was telling my husband i said. Would you ever be to that. 'cause issue don't know meghan tonight love fountain soda and It's superior to all other soda. Delivery method agree one hundred percent. So i said to my husband. Would you be interested in putting one of these hypothetically and our garage and he was like absolutely not. That's too much work. And then he's like wait a minute. Only if it had the good ice now what could ice up talking about. Is that little. It's called nugget ice right now. Get ice I if i like it is yeah. Sonic has it. Chick-fil-a has it Raising cane's has it. Can you think of anybody else who sells that. No but you can buy. A nugget is maker. They're not cheap. I asked my husband as well and he thought about it. Which i actually was surprised. And he said no because it seems like a hassle to deal with the syrups and the co two. But he did say in his hypothetical home where he hasn't full game room. He would put a soda vending machine. In which i like the idea of in theory. But i don't love a bottled soda. So that doesn't like plastic bottle. Sodas the no no no. You'll need to be oh agree you're gonna need to put a canned soda vending machine fat. Okay that would be okay. A canned soda machine. Like he would want like a vintage coca cola machine and if we could put just glass bottles in me lobby. Okay with the so-called ultimately. We were voted down however in this hypothetical situation where we live side by side in a small town to be determined. We have eliminated several areas so far we would put the soda machine in our in our long story short studio that your are not invited to. They're not interested. What was so cool. Mega show this picture. It was just like a. It was a soda machine with only two options. So there was a coke. What would be your second choice meghan. That's a tough call because it for me. It would be between dr pepper or cherry coke as a ginger ale really in love ginger ale so much yeah like ginger ale to but i that's interesting so on our what's that called what's that board origination board. Our friend leshan made this great video on how to create a vision board using candida. Which i'm going to do. I am definitely putting that nugget ice machine and a what are those called. The fountain drink found she shed and as she should. I need to escape somewhere. Can you tell you seriously. I have honestly looked into. She sheds during the pandemic. I wouldn't want one in my house permanently. Though i'd want it to at some point go away but what i quite seriously looked at options for putting my own little space in the backyard. I yeah i do. I need to. I just don't think. I have a space in the backyard. Big enough to put a she shed. I would love it though. I've been squares out of every space electricity and it would air conditioning became a bigger project than i was willing to take on a lot of them. You have to build yourself which you know. Obviously i can assemble furniture. That's the extent of my handedness. So unless it comes with an allen wrench and other tools required. i think it's beyond the scope. Okay so speaking of food. We'll continue this conversation. I see your nobody here that it's girl scout. Cookie is so covet has changed the way girls got cookie distribution happening at least here in orange county as of this very moment booth. Sales are not being allowed which is really interesting. Because i did see boy scout lucille's happening this may have been pre additional shutdown. But what we're allowed to do this year. That has not been allowed as we are allowed to do. Pre orders starting today. this is in orange county. Every councils different cookies aren't even available for another two weeks. Now normally preorders are strictly forbidden. You find get caught doing preorders. You will lose your cookie revenue but year. You can do preorders. You can take payment online. You can do fully contact delivered. Contact lists delivery. There are options for like a curbside pickup. I mean it's they really pivoted really well Can you tell us if there's any new cookies assure yes. There is the toast. Ucla with is that which is a believe. A shortbread cookie. It's like a french toast. Inspired cookie so like a the icing on the back. The way Lemonades think it's a cinnamon sugary flavor. I am interested to try it. It doesn't scream to me that it's going to be delicious. Sounds sweet thanks. A lot went away last year. Which just so dumb. Why did they get rid of that. You know they weren't around very long. And this is the last year for this more at least for council arm injury so i remember how hot that cookie was even on. This is the last year if you like this. More stock up and freeze them Freeze very well. While i'm shortbread stan and i don't think that's going anywhere. So no i mean. That's been around since my brownie days. So i think that's that'll be around forever and now we have our chest freezer so i can. We did not by a single box of cookies for ourselves last year. But i will be buying and stocking up because If the second hand of a pandemic is one thing it's a more girl scout steady supply of then. Yes chest freezer for that win. Okay so have you seen the big tv news. So i'm very neutral about this news. I'd like to hear your i. I'd like to hear your opinion. Well if you haven't heard if you Took a break from cnn or msnbc or even fox news you would see that sex. And the city is getting a reboot on hbo. Max are you a sex in the city superfan. So i've watched the series. I've seen the movies. Yes do i need this show. A back is the big question. I really like. I said i felt neutral about it like you. I watched it. I've seen the movies. I'm not the kind of person who's constantly doing a rewatch. I haven't seen every episode multiple. Tian's i'm fine with it coming back. Did i hear that. Kim cottrell is not returning not returning. Will i watch it out of curiosity. Surely staff assode chan guys. It's back for ten episodes in the first season. I don't know if they've committed to more than one season. If we're if it's one season at a time or what but it's ten episodes. I'm really curious with the people who are listening to us if you have opinions about this if you were excited i saw many people celebrating this news and i really didn't have a reaction you know. It's funny i. I i started thinking like do i want to watch a bunch of women in their fifties navigate. I mean are they dating or they married. What and then i thought yes i do because i'm close to that age ish and maybe i do wanna watch women of a certain age on my tv because there's certainly not that demographic on tv think. I'm kind of interested. And i. I'm certainly curious. I'm not going to be creating a countdown chain to the premier. No i'm really curious. How going to navigate a semi mantha not being because that show has always been about the four core friends right and are they gonna killer while as she did have breast cancer at one time during the series. So maybe they do just kill her. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about food. Today's episode is brought to you by c. Let's deal show dot com henrik made creations by michelle as southern california native who learned the art of sewing from her grandmother and she is held onto that scale and has now turned it into a business now. The holidays may be behind us. But perhaps you need a book sleeve for your brand new kindle or coffee sleeve to wrap around all starbucks. You're picking up with your fresh new gift cards. She's got valentine's day designs as well as evergreen designs in her shop. You can get a discount with the code l. s. s. friends fifteen. And you find the link to her shop in our show notes all right friends welcome back and it is time to talk about dinner when they are always looking for dinner solutions and we mentioned a while back that One thing we're doing in that regard is we were both home chefs subscribers and home chef is kind of part of my dinner solution. It takes off of me a couple of nights of the we yep one hundred so that's why i really like it. It's kind of like okay. I've got two nights of the week. I do it every other week. Just i don't know for variety and right now at the end of january you can get ninety dollars off a if you're a new customer so there's lincoln are show nuts if you want to try it out. We're both paying customers. But another thing i like to have in. My arsenal are easy. Dinners things that. I know that i can turn to. That are just a handful of ingredients and one of my favorite places for things like that is trader joe's among So we each have three meals that are kind of staples that we keep in our back pocket that we're going to share with you. We would love it if you have trader joe's staple that you would share with us and it twist an email and we'll share it with everybody so we can create an ongoing list because we could all use a little bit of help. I'm already looking at wendy's liston are you okay. You wanna go first. Share mine is so easy. The first one is the broccoli and kale slaw kit. It is like a premade salad kit. It's in the salad meghan. Have you ever had a solid before. Yes i love it. But i am seeing your note to keep going account. Wait this is genius. Are you sure. I'm not talking about like the pre made lunch. That has like no in the bag. And then you get all up. Yes so broccoli. And kale has dried cherries and dried blueberries. slivered almonds suppler season. Has this amazing dressing. Now you can find a similar bag salad in any grocery store but we have found that the trader joe's one is superior to all the others. We make this probably once a week during the summertime when we're grilling because we make this salad and grilled steak boom. Dinner done delicious. I love the idea of that with a grilled steak. I one of my favorite salads in a restaurant as a traitor obviously very similar. Yes carl and so easy and you can throw any protein like grilled chicken growth and tofu. whatever your protein of choices and toss it on top. I do think the steak is the superior choice here but so easy and my daughter even loves us. This is her favorite solid to eat like we. There's three of us. And i think of salad. I think one of those salad kits feeds three. I don't know we always double up on salad because some particular salad is because it's broccoli and kale. It will last in the refrigerator even dressed. It's still good the next day I think it's actually. This is what i do. I make it a probably hour before. We grill steaks. Because i think it is better wants the dressing has been on it for a little bit agree. I one hundred percent agree with that And if you wanted to make it super easy. You could add like the trader. Joe's jess chicken grilled chicken. And just toss it in there and then you've got a two minute me. Oh totally i mean. That's a great lunch. If you're looking for is that's an excellent lunch idea. Did you get number one. Our number one staple in our house have. It is the trader joe's orange chicken. It is a family favorite. It's frozen and you know it's everyone knows what an orange chicken is but we pair it typically with their frozen jasmine rice but you have options there. They have a frozen brown rice microwaveable. Rice bag is the greatest invention a twentieth century. It makes your life so easy. We always keep the jasmine rice in our freezer is well you could also if you prefer. There's a frozen fried rice that you could make And there's a lot of ways to add to this. I mean you could just throw a frozen broccoli. That used steam in the microwave. We often also by the trader. Joe's pot stickers. And i cook those up alongside the chicken. The orange chicken plus pot stickers plus a veggie the instructions on the bag simply say to warm the sauce through and pour it over the chicken. No no you want to put the sauce in a saucepan on the stove ad. Once you've cooked chicken add the chicken to that and then kind of let it heat and keep stirring and it caramelizes. The sauce a little bit sticky or chicken sauce. Uh-huh one hundred percent worth the extra step so i we eat that all the time. I do mind a little bit differently. First of all sometimes i cook the chicken in the air. Fryer that he is way better. It's delicious yes. The other thing i do is i do warm the sauce in a saucepan if i cook it in the oven i will then pour the sauce over the chicken code it really well and then put it back in the oven for just a little bit to kind of get that like sticky sauce texture. As well like your idea to the other thing that i add here is my husband. Doesn't like to eat. Carbohydrates really a whole lot That you're eating fried orange chicken by instead of rice. He likes the cauliflower fried rice. Okay it's frozen. I feed it to my daughter. She has no idea. She's eating cauliflower. It's pretty bomb to. We like that a lot to all right. What's next for me. is the cauliflower gnocchi. Have you tried that yet. Yes i am curious to hear how you cook yours. Because i have heard some methods make it a little soggy. Ya okay so we really love the cauliflower. Gnocchi we serve it with that ground turkey or a spicy italian sausage and marinara sauce. Now i'm gonna say i don't really love any of the trader joe's marinara sauces. So i usually opt for the are a oh. Have you seen that sauce. It's they don't get that in a regular grocery store. Yes it's at every other grocery song house am i. Seeing rows is actually you would say r. o. apostrophe s. homemade marinara to me is a superior sauce. I think it's delicious but any marinara sauce will go in terms of cooking the cauliflower gnocchi yes it can get kind of flake slimy if you cook it. So i've like experimented a little bit I cook it. According to the directions but then i also add a little bit of butter to the pan so the gnocchi gets a little bit crispy on the side of okay. I have also seen that. You can air fry those. But i have not tried that. Oh that you need to experiment with. I bet that's delicious. I'm really just not going to have to figure out how to do it. Or i'm sure there's a recipe online somewhere. That i can find button or not and i know people like turn their nose up to it but it is a delicious. I have some of their sweet potato. Yoke emi freeze. that's so good to that. Nobody in my house will eat except me. So i'm good lynch sweet potato in this house. I'm tryin sneak into like a chicken tika masala. And i'll just toss in some cooked sweet potato in there. It's so delicious and people ever in the house gets man so the only sweet potato fan. I love sweet potatoes. Man i can eat this on everything delicious all right. My next one is an easy dinner. Every single person in our house loves this as well and the nice thing is. I'm dairy free. So i can easily modify this to me. And that is paninis now might trader. Joe's panini method is. I buy their sourdough bread. We buy mozzarella for everyone in the family except me. They make they have to dairy free mozzarella versions almond version. And there's a cashew version. The almond version is not vegan. Which is fine for me but it does contain. There's something in it that makes it not begin with the cashier was fully vegan. Dairy free cheese is an adventure but this does melt. It does taste good The the one thing that dairy free cheese does that i noticed is that even when it melts it kind of like retains the shape in like a multi but it still looks like shreds on your sandwich with it. We typically by like the trader joe's grilled just chicken and then depending on the time of year will either make a pesto panini or cranberry panini and trader. Joe's makes a dairy free vegan. Pesto and my family cannot tell the difference. So we use that on. Everybody's so there's no darien it and during the holidays when sell their cranberry sauce in the tub. We were making cranberry paninis. They're delicious. They're just a great easy comfort. Food cooked them on the stove. I think i need to add those to a meal. Plan coming up. Because they're hardy and make everybody happy. Yeah i was gonna suggest. I think they have some pre made meatballs to in the marinara. Yeah make meatball penny on good right. That would be easy not the frozen ones. They have some like pre made ones. In the refrigerated section would be delicious. Oh and the pesto. The key is you wanna buy the balsamic glaze Had a little bit of that right before it's done cooking. My kids don't like that. But oh my gosh. It's like next level for my friend. Kelly turned me onto that basaltic glaze. She makes like bruce All the time yes. It's so good that's a staple that's my house okay. Last for me is kind of a new product for me. It's might have been there for years. It's the lemon ricotta ravioli. And i recently purchased it. And i asked in our facebook group. Like how do i prepare this like. It sounds delicious. But i didn't know how to make it and we got so many good ideas. I ended up making it with like some sauteed. Spinach answer some shaved parmesan. It was delicious. I think if you add it toasted pine nuts or some walnuts on top. It's a dinner for me now. A family dinner. My daughter was not into this dinner whatsoever. But i think if you're home alone i wanted to make yourself something you know nice to eat or even for lunchtime delicious. These regretted sauce. Or is it just butter like i just used a little bit of olive oil. So i- boiled them as directed and then use the little bit of olive oil and put some sauteed spinach on top so so so good. You could use any green to like if you're like into kale instead or our friend. Michelle also suggested like a brown butter and Sage which i love that combination to these are good. These are a little bit on the sweet side. So if you're not like really wanting to eat like a sweet dinner. I would say pass but these are. These are new fave of mine well. My last is a winter faith and it is a ridiculously easy soup. So i by the steamed lentils that are fully cooked in the refrigerated section and we grab one of their fully cooked chickens asses which everyone appeals to you and then of course the trader joe's mira wa which is a gift in a plastic container because tiny diced carrots. It's amazing A wish they sold it in a frozen version some grocery stores sell frozen wa. I have not been able to find any that carried here so anyway. That is a gift if you like making soups. I just saute that in a little bit of olive oil and out a little salt and pepper. And then i just kind of toss everything in so i do little chicken stock at the lentils At the sausage closer to the end just to warm it through and then. I just add a squeezed lemon juice at the end it makes it tastes so fresh it's delicious. It's fast it comes together. It's really hardy We love it. Your whole family will eat that and my kids will kind of pick around the lentils. They're not soup fans. I will be honest. But i am and my husband is with. Sometimes that's just went. Dinner is and they kind of make do that. Sounds so delicious with like a bag. At least yes. Yes and trader. Joe's has those like half baked e-eh baghdad's and you just toss them in the oven this crispy bread straight out of the event one of my favorite meals. I mean i feel a little bit bad making something. My children don't love but the reality is they. Don't love a lot of inner so sometimes it's like hey this is food can get and yet. Don't throw up it correct question. Why can't you just toss that mir mira pawar was i said. Why don't you put that in a freezer bag and put it in the deep freezer. Why can't you do that. I would think there's absolutely no reason you can't do that. It's a great idea. i'm gonna do buy like four next time and freeze them because it is no different having a company. Freeze it in zeal bag. Exactly doing it myself. Yes doing it all right. If you have other trader joe's dinner suggestion drop us an email. Let us on our facebook group. We would love to chat. Make everyone's life easier and we'll be right back with megan wendy approved and it's that time where we tell you something we love and i cannot wait to tell you about this thing okay. I'm gonna let you go first. Then if sicher excited. I am excited so i have been building up. My wardrobe of comfortable clothes and i have multiple pairs of joggers from old navy. I believe have four different styles. And i enjoy all of them for different reasons however have a pair that brings me so much joy when with them on that. I have to tell you about them and they are. Don't worry we'll either in the show notes because the old navy item descriptions are very wordy there the mid rise ultralight french terry jogger yoga pants for women. Who've okay. let me paint a picture for you. Do you recall the fold over. cropped plaza. Pants are younger days. That are jersey material. 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It was really excellent. I loved it if you guys want to know more about like what. We're watching what we movies. We like let us know. Leave us a comment. Send us an e mail could do one of those shows in the future. I think we just finished up a the new season of cobra kai did you watch that yet so we started it last night. And then you know i. I didn't wash the first two seasons. What i know so my husband watched that oh. My husband watched them. And i kind of like saw what was happening. But he watched it mostly without me but then i started watching last night and then we watched a few episodes and then we had a medical emergency with our dog so i had to go to the emergency vet and when i came home he was on episode eight. 'cause they're sure i think they're only like thirty minute episodes. Yeah yeah so. I kinda know what's going on. He's not be close to the end. You gotta go back and watch season one and two. They're so good. Well and i'm hearing that people aren't liking season three as much as the first two. It's not as good but there's some nice surprises in it. The teenagers are stressing me out. I was telling him like all the how awful they are. This is not enjoyable for me. To stresses me out to watch terrible all they wanna do is just kick each other's asses all the time. And i'm like god. My kid goes to high school next year. And i'm just imagining like cobra. Kai kids tagging them in the hallway. I told my husband i go. This is my least favorite. Part of the series is like the kid ankle. Like gives me the the ralph macho and now i think his name is william zappa like i want that story so in the spirit of finishing cobra kai we did go over and watch the first karate kid this weekend and i fell asleep at one part and i told my husband i go just make me up when they get to the all valley competition. Because that's the only part i wanted to see. I've never seen karate what what is okay. 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The teens tricking Instagram

Reset

25:47 min | 9 months ago

The teens tricking Instagram

"Hey everyone today. We're bringing you one of my favorite episodes from our back catalog. This story is about an enterprising group of teenagers. Who are fighting for their right to use social media without getting influenced by a bunch of targeted ads. Check it out Samantha. Moseley is seventeen years old. She lives in Maryland where she's a junior in high school and like most teenagers. She spends a certain amount of time on instagram. I'd say like about five hours a week. There are some people who I know personally and they use instagram. A lot more than I do but I prefer to keep my social media time down. I tend to post about once every two months. I try to keep it limited to Life Prom homecoming fancy events like that so that when someone looks up my name they see nice pictures of me. Instead of some not. As high quality photos Samantha has multiple instagram accounts about five she says NBA each serve. A purpose. There's a home wide variety his. I have a different account fruit each audience and different interests for each audience. So like on my main account. I'm more focused on like my high school people around me all just like their photos. Post things related to my high school and then another account is for more engineering and technology and on an account all look at different robotics projects girls who code things like that. But unlike most of her peers Samantha and a group of her friends are intentionally messing with instagram to prevent the platform from knowing too much about them. We want instagram to have a harder time tracking us. What we're doing. We are where we live different things like that today. On the show how a group of teens are freeing themselves from instagram's algorithm and the theory behind this technique. I'm aerials Ross. This is reset Samantha is about as tech savvy as teenagers come. She's into robotics. Coding Social Media and about five years ago when she was in middle school. She had an idea so I was part of a first Lego League team. Which is a robotics competition? But the robots all made out of legos and we had a shared social media account because we wanted everyone to have access to it and we noticed that each time someone would sign in. It would change what it was recommending to us. If you click on the explore page on twitter or instagram. Ill show you different people or accounts that you should follow so we saw that those accounts were changing and the content was changing. So maybe for one person. It was like makeup in theater than another person. It was like Technology in robots and things like that that insight that having multiple people use the same account can make it hard for Instagram to recommend posts or target a specific user with ads. That was a big moment. For Samantha. It led her to apply this idea to her own private accounts with a lot of help from her friends. So what? My friends and I have been doing instagram is. We're trying to offi scare identities as much as possible office gate to render obscure or unintelligible. That words going to be important in this episode so me and my friends decided to start sharing our accounts in sharing our passwords because we wanted that algorithm that different social media platforms used to be more. I'm confused and not know exactly who we were and what we were doing on our everyday lives and we're doing this by flooding the Meta data so our name. Our location are different. Things like that that a social media platform will keep track of so. If someone found all of that data they wouldn't be able to find us in real life so we have been doing this about five years. Five years of tricking Instagram I ask Samantha to explain how this all works most simply broken down. We are doing two things so i. We have multiple accounts for every person in our group and the second thing we password sharing across our group so I might be signed into two of mine one of friend. A ONE OF B. One of friends see will switch out Who signed into what account? At what time so that. You can't track the countdown to one specific location or user. It's constantly changing and all of the location. Data is based off of someone's real life. So that when you're looking at the location data for one account. It might be in Germany for one week and then in the US for another and By having a real person being our source of location data instead of one set. Ip address in a different country. It's more randomized because you get that. Real life randomness. And you can't really predict what's going to happen okay. So in practice. This is what it might look like. When Samantha posts a picture on Instagram? So I would take that picture figure out whatever caption I liked and what account I wanted it. Posted to and send it to this core group that we have so in the core we have about seven people who know of all of the accounts that are signed in and who signed into what account at what time and they'll send it to the correct person or link you up so that you can send it to them and tell them what you want the caption to be and tell them what time of day you want it posted at. So if they're in another country you don't want them to post it at midnight in wherever you are So sometimes that gets a little bit. Tricky but We try to keep it as easy as possible. So like don't make someone wake up in the middle of the night on a school night so that they can post your picture from vacation and so once you send them your picture and your caption than the post it from wherever they are At the specified time. And that's how it works. So tell me Samantha. Why do you care? So much about preventing instagram. From knowing exactly who you are where you live what your interests are. What does this matter to you so we wanted to make sure that if someone were to Google or name the account that shows up might be our account. But they're not gonna be able to find us and know where we live I was worried about stockers in the beginning but then I realized that this can actually apply to big companies who are trying to target different ads that you are trying to target you to go to certain colleges or get certain jobs that these companies aren't going to be able to control or have influence in those aspects of your life helped me understand what exactly you mean by by this whole college thing helped me understand how scrambling the data instagram has about you impacts things like jobs or colleges so by screaming of our data so much we are trying to make it more difficult for those targeted things to come towards us. Colleges are emailing us and they're like hey we saw you like such and such you like robotics because you have a robotics account. Well were school so we want to be able to see those colleges but also not have only those colleges interested in us or only those job opportunities interested in us. Ray Yeah so we want to have the ability to come to those conclusions by yourself in If a college was to look us up only be able to find that public account that we want them to see it. Sounds to me like what you're saying is that you're trying to reclaim your agency. Your freedom your ability to explore the landscape whether it's a job opportunity or college without getting influenced by ads like perfect. So how many people are doing this with you. So right now Our group is constantly expanding and we also have people leaving as they're starting to form their own groups so At our core. I'd say we have about twenty people so we reach out to different countries in different locations and we asked for like five to seven people in those locations to help us insight into our accounts and in exchange will sign into theirs and keep up this. Meta data sort of overload will kind of bug them every now and then When we want the data really messed up. Why are you trusting all of these people with your instagram passwords like? Aren't you worried that they're going to post something that'll make you look bad? So we do use a very big system of trust. There's a lot of trust involved a lot of people in our core group. We are seeing everyday so those people are the ones who have access to our private accounts. Ones that when you look up our names that's what you see because we know if they do something wrong we can talk to them in person and we can figure out why they did that and we can kick them out of the group that's necessary. Has that actually happened? Not yet okay. Nobody has posted anything wrong or bad yet. we're hoping it never happens because it would hurt a lot if it did in elementary school you learn about people who are like lying as bad never do that. But then you realize defy tell you. I'm supposed to be in the hall in non in class. You let me stay in the hallway. I know that that's a bad thing to do. But what if I change Jenny online using that same concept you tell me? It's bad to do that but what I'm doing is protecting myself Mantha. I really appreciate the time that you spent with me explaining this to me. Thank you so much for doing this. this was really fascinating. Thank you coming up after. The break does Samantha's technique actually work. And what's the story behind this whole discussion thing? This is reset. Hi I'm Karen. Swisher editor at large of Rico. My podcast Rico. Decode is all about how the world is changing and the people you need to know to understand that change right now as the world is facing a once in a century pandemic we've been joined by guests such as President Obama's Abol Czar Ron plane bestselling author Deepak Chopra Organizational Psychologist Adam grant venture capitalist Timothy Polly Fatiha and New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman. We're talking about how. The Corona virus has disturbed everything. How we work how we live with each other. How we vote how things will get back to normal if normal is even the right word as always these are unscripted in-depth smart conversations and. I hope you'll make some time to listen in Rico. Decode comes out every Monday Wednesday and Friday. You can find the show on Apple podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. That's recode decode with Charissa pusher yet so instagram tracks. A lot of what you do. I mean considering that they're also owned by facebook. Alfred ing is a senior reporter at seen. It I asked him to walk me through how instagram tracks. Its users if you look at a friend's post then all of a sudden everything related to that friends. Post is suddenly in your explored tab right. The explore. Tab is one of the tabs on your instagram account. Where basically it's like a curated feeds for you specifically because there's the news tab. I think it's called the news tab where it's not people that you follow and the explored tabloids might not be people that you're falling but it's like stuff that you might be interested in so let's say. I look at dogs or something like that. All of a sudden instagram start thinking. Oh Hey this person look at is one dog posed. Let's give this person everything about dogs post a lot? Yeah and it it. It changes for me all the time so like I'll look at one basketball post. A friend happened to like because that POPs up on my feed and all of a sudden and I'm getting all this. Nba memes stuff. It really kind of a rabbit hole there but the track a lot of other activities on your phone as well so the Meta data of it so they know that you're looking at instagram from New York City for example then all of a sudden you're getting New York City specific content. They know you know when you're looking at it so the timing and where you're looking at it from so there's a lot that goes into instagram beyond what you're clicking on and then just your browsing activity online so if I'm going on Amazon for example. And I buy something there. I could get poster. Ads related to that. If they know. I'm into a certain type of jacket or a certain pair of sneakers or something like that shirt. I'm getting sneaker post on Instagram as well earlier this month. Alfred attended a hacker conference in Washington DC. Where he met Samantha Moseley. She was giving a talk about the way she and her friends have been protecting their identities on instagram and he was kind of blown away by it was such like an innovative method and taking on. There's like massive tracking machine that you know so many people have have spent years trying to figure a way to get around and this was such an effective method to do it. Do we know if what Samantha and her friends are doing actually works though? So Samantha showed me her explore tab and it seems to work just based on how completely different like the exports have is and I was kind of using my own account as as kind of a controlled to this right where I kept refreshing it and they were all things that like I could. I could explain like Oh. I'm interested in that I'm interested in that It was completely different each time but like they were all things that I was interested in. We're shoeshine is always like dogs. Tattoos and powerlifting video. Yeah so she was showing it to manage like look. These are like horoscopes. And here's like some animal stuff and like I never look at animals stuff on my account. So and she was saying like yeah. There's like three people on this account right now. And that's why that's that's happening for. This Samantha was mentioning to me. That part of the way they tested for this also was Looking out the Meta data that instagram from your accounts So she was doing this among her friends who all knew how to do the same thing and when she looked at the Meta data for her account like what instagram knows about her and the data that they pulled from her every time she posts. There was like a whole flurry of stuff. So it'd be like oh she lives in the US but also in Germany and she speaks like five different languages and she's interested in all these things where other accounts of her friends where they only had that one account would the Meta data would show something like yeah. They live in Maryland and they speak English. And here's like a few things that they're interested in okay so it seems like it's working so alfred can you explain exactly how the methods that Samantha and her friends are using actually works so this gets pretty complicated like she had this chart at the presentation that kind of like one of those conspiracy theory boards but so like the average teenager would usually have their fence to account meaning the fake account? You put out like for the public to see where it's very clean. It's very very curated. And then there's Account just like specific group so like if I might have an account for my friends from college and then I have an account for people from work and I have an account for. I don't know something that I'm interested in like like sneakers or something like that So the way that it works is that like. Let's say everyone in this would say there's like five people in his. Frankly they all have these accounts there. They'll share the ones that don't care that much about With each other and then they'll ask each other to post on each other's behalf instead and when they posted their giving that account you know basically data from from that person's phone so the idea is to spread it out among as many people as possible then it confuses them and you know the the algorithm is Kinda messed up that way. Is it also about liking pictures? That may or may not unlike searching specific search terms that may or may not be related to that person's interests. Yeah so the algorithms also curated by likes So if you like one thing then you might get more content. So when other people share that account then it becomes like Oh. This person likes animals by this person also like politics and and football now all of a sudden obviously people are multifaceted. They can like all of those things but the idea. Is You know when you have like twenty people on one account liking all these different things. Then it's like hard to tie that back to me right and I don't think instagram's a fan of that because then it makes it way for advertisers to target to you. Based on those things did Samantha. Come up with this technique does did this previously exist. Yes so Samantha and her friends came over this technique. I don't I I don't know if it was like a single person that thought like Oh yeah we can. We can all do this but I mean she gave the talk on it and she really explained it thoroughly at the conference but the concept itself of like a group effort to keep yourself hidden from a data collection firm or anything like that is not a new concept. So for a while at have been called a cooperative obfuscation which people have been doing like shopping carbs for like the loyalty rewards cards like supermarkets. They would like trade it with each other so they wouldn't have all the data on what I bought at the supermarket. It'd be like one card and be like fifty different purchases on it throughout the week. So it's like you get these coupons that are like super random And it's really hard for them. Keep track of that. Oh Wow so just to be clear. This technique has existed before people have theorized about this have written about this. The innovation here is that Samantha as applying this cooperative obfuscation technique to instagram and having other people post for her and like things on her account. I think the innovation here really is that. They're doing this for instagram specifically but to apply to instagram and to do it in a way where sharing passwords. And they're the at sometimes. They weren't even sharing passwords. This was another thing. That kind of blew my mind where Instead of sharing the passwords they would just send like the password reset links to each other. You can click on. I've got my password. Instagram sends it to you. And then you can take that link and just send somebody who wants to log into your account because that doesn't log you out you don't get logged out when when somebody else log into your account even when the past route changes that seems like a problem yeah. I don't know how long that will last now that they're honestly you know again. This goes against a lot of security advice out there. That don't share your passwords with people. But I mean like people do that for Netflix. People do that for I guess. Spotify sometimes And that they're okay with that so I think that's the idea here with with these instagram accounts. Where they're fine with sharing passwords for these accounts that don't matter that much to them and they they I think they trust each other a lot more than they trust instagram with their privacy. Why go through all of the trouble of doing this? Why not just logoff instagram? And stop using it or or use a VPN instead. A you know a virtual privacy network that that helps you sort of that helps mask your Ip address. Yeah I mean I've gotten that question a lot of comments about you know while these teens really care about privacy. Why don't they just not be on instagram? And you know I mean that seems like a simple answer but I mean I think you have to consider like the social hierarchy and fabric of being a teen in twenty twenty Where yeah everything. Everyone does is online right leg. That includes instagram. And I think this is kind of a way of not being on Instagram. While being on instagram where you can go on and you can socialize with your friends but you know they have all these accounts that don't matter to them and they can just drop them at like a hat but like they're sharing all of it with each other so it's basically keeping that that data private for them at least for the time being and you know people do use. Vpn's to hide their location. But if you ever look at the VPN location data. That's like tied to one address so it's very easy for people to figure out if you're using a vpn because it's like the Ip address just on that server like in another country right right. That's like you use a VPN. If you want to like say oh I wanNA use like Netflix Canada or something like that. They don't care but if you're if you're using a VPN for trick algorithm like that doesn't really work because that's one central location and the data that you're giving them is still like your data like they would still know what your interests are right. So they're getting like real location points getting like real data it just all not who they are is is like very much like a collaborative effort. And Yeah I mean. This is another way for them to socialize like beyond you know just being on instagram of this kind of creates a whole new element in like social element to it of like. Oh like we're maintaining our own like pseudo social network here so interesting. I guess I guess the idea here is you can get all of the benefits of being on instagram. Without getting all of the downsides right this is a way to really hack the system they can still go on instagram and they can still like follow people and see like Oh. These are the things that I'm actually interested in But like instagram doesn't get that much out of them. And you don't really see that that much you never see that kind of shift in the dynamic so did facebook or instagram. Facebook owns instagram. Did facebook have a reaction to your story when I reach out to them for comment they were kind of confused about what? I was talking about at first but they said you know this doesn't go against their policy because like I said like social media managers all go on one account also but they didn't recommend it because of security concerns with sharing passwords. And things like that. Wow Okay so just if anybody wants to try home which is not recommended according to facebook Make sure you really trust the people. You're doing this with. I guess that's the conclusion right. Just think about how you share your car keys with somebody. Reassure Your House keys with somebody like to dog. Sit or watch your pets or something like that. Like that's like you're giving them the same amount of trust. I'm wondering Alfred. Have you started doing this with your friends? Or your circle I actually do have like a bunch Instagram accounts. But I haven't done something like this I don. I don't know enough friends that care that much about their privacy on Instagram to do it. But if you WANNA get in on it let me know I mean. I really do want to try this. I'm super curious. Alfred ing is a senior reporter at seen. This is resets and I'm at the end zoom. Ross who you don't have to say it that way you can find me on twitter. I'm at a D. R. S. 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Spittin' Chiclets Episode 216: Featuring Teemu Selanne, Kevin Connolly and Shane O'Brien

Spittin' Chiclets

1:55:50 hr | 1 year ago

Spittin' Chiclets Episode 216: Featuring Teemu Selanne, Kevin Connolly and Shane O'Brien

"In the men when you tumble Hello everybody welcome to episode two hundred sixteen of Spitting chocolates present the by Pink Whitney the pink lemonade flavored vodka friends at New Amsterdam Vodka. Gentlemen wow we had a little surprise guest joining us out of the blue. We're going to get to that in a few minutes. Let's go around the table. Say Hi to the Boys Grenell. What's going on producer? What's up guys? I'm just going to get ahead of this to start off. I'd like to issue a formal the apology to all three of you guys at the end of the last podcast I may or may not have left off a little bit of audio in and it was talking after after the podcast. The mistake. That's never happened in the two hundred fifteen episodes that we've recorded it'll never happen again. I text Biz after and said I will accept any punishment you guys. I WanNa put on me so I am sorry for that and I'm excited for this episode tons of guests. We just hop right into that without even getting in showed like. Could you imagine agenda. Imagine I said something. I shouldn't have been saying. Oh get something that would have ruined our lives. And then I I just WANNA driven right my car grenell. He's and stabbed him full. The funny thing is is before the Stapleton interview he goes. Hey Guy you guys aren't going to put anything anything on the air that would get in trouble or that's like you know off the record right now. It's like no no no. We've never ever done that. Don't worry at all I promise it won't happen. And and then that episode. It's so when did you realize it. And how much did you panic. Ten twenty seconds after it just because once once you hit upload on on I tunes it's there and I was taking a shit and I immediately jumped off off the didn't even white. My ass ran over. My computer tried to fix exit. Tried to fixed immediately called Mike podcasts and we got it fixed immediately but still was. It's still a mistake that should never have now. There's there's probably a lot of people being like. Oh Yeah what are you guys saying that we should be here quarrel shit. You don't even want to know those two fucking assholes witness and that I can't stand these premadonna Fox in the fuck affable on a good block. And the other guy says Tuffy was and then everyone just heard these guys just ripping us that would have been some good call. Yeah I would be cared. I would have been more excited about how we're going to monetize content. I'm taking nothing personal. Well let's just businessman following spring. You Guys WanNa put on me but that that is a mistake and it won't happen again I I by the way let's business Whether the other two. What's up boys? The extended reading here Don Macho currently I've the rangers minus one and a half plus one on sixty thousand to win what is at sixteen hundred three to one. There's one thousand nine minutes to go in the third period. So you might hear me. ooh I but I am ready to podcast. The only other thing that is annoying about this game is the fact that it's on NBC sports. I've seen our commercial toys. which is Great? Crank it to my cell foreign camera tonight though. The Saint Louis Blues this Wednesday night the Saint Louis Blues Playing Connor mcdavid Stanley Cup Champs. I the best in the league and we got Rangers in Detroit. It's a little upsetting. I know it's an original six rivalry but come on guys. How's this figure it out? Yeah I don't think they have that flex schedule I'm like they do with the NFL or at least this early in the but they knew before that Edmonton Saint Louis night. That's big time. Yeah much rather watch them. Yeah I'm on the I mean I don't want to bash them too much. But Detroit has been awful lately. They got off to a somewhat of a decent start that Mantha lighting up but they have not looked good breath. What's their record in their last ten games they were eight and one in ten game span? I don't know if it's changed their rebuilding. They have some really nice pieces. They get some draft picks that look good but it's it's I mean this year and maybe next year it's A. It's GonNa be a tough tough sledding for for detri- guy said they're like three or four years out and a few fans went fucking awol where I would say. Three or four years is probably an accurate number. Four eleven in one right now and and what would you say. They could be a relevant team in three to four years. Now you never know next year I think this league is. There's there's I don't believe really there's anymore three to four year rebuilds. It seems like it doesn't take that long coyotes. Fourteen coyotes at a four in order to get to this point and Mike. Mike like we're still hovering on the aspect like are they actually true true. Like it's I think it's a lot harder than you guys. Nice think to become ender while when you have the you need certain pieces. I the thing about the I don't know how into Detroit. The worst team struggle in the the most in league but they they don't really have so I love I. Love Mantar Love Larkin that the German is CDL CDL sidell. I don't remember exact name high flying defense and that they picked high this year. So yeah maybe you're actually right. Maybe it is three to four years. I just feel like all of a sudden guys going to get some of them are going to get paid. They need to figure out the goaltending situation I was I was thinking about this this the other day. I'm Mike every every every year in the last ten years. Would you not agree that team. Who's won the Stanley Cup at the start of the year? People were like this is a fair legitimate contender. I don't St Louis to get off to a great star but with their makeup going in the last season you're putting them in the top six teams maybe talk eight but beyond Matt. It's like look at the years before Washington they're always ranked the top teams in the League. Have the weapons in order to do so so I I would. I would say easily there three or four years out and that's not an insult just like there isn't enough in the pipeline right now all of a sudden make relevant Steve You I definitely has. He's got his work cut. Oh farm I mean if you're REDWINGS fan there's no one you probably rather have their. I mean I know. Tampa didn't win a cup on his watch but he he certainly left a contender there and he's a guy knows what he's doing. He's patient to and part of the reason I say that too is yeah. He stepped in there now. Like I would consider bitter this out right now. He's as some that. Did you just say consider no did I. It sounds a little high so I did say that word but but this would be a lot of is Romans work. They're not I would say they're probably like you know I'm not really well on their way to a rebuild and and and getting something dynamic though he's going to have to move and shake and he's going to have to have his fingerprints all over. This thing win sat on the game. Tonight what Jimmy Howard is last sixteen games versus the Rangers. All of them have gone under sixteen under and his last Sixteen Verse Arabia. Six or six and a half. It was six and a half. Oh that's a nice for you look at ways to go but I guess this episode we did switch it up a little bit. We ended upon inaudible. We got Kevin Conlon and he ended up Pearl Habits with a couple of featured guests on rarely told us I got a little surprise for we had no idea he ends up dropping fucking eighteen Mussalini out of the sky on our laps. We talked to him for a few minutes. Obviously wasn't a normal at the view. We weren't expecting it so we were really prepared for but we chatted with him for a few antibody. Ob jumped off a little bit. A little chats. We're GONNA get to them a little bit but first let's go to the goings-on in the NHL a few hours after we recorded on Sunday the DOP S. announced that Milan Lucci getting a two game suspension for roughing against Sherwood. On Saturday night was talked about last deputy guy was sticking up for his goalie. Gave them a popped. The jobs In his comments on the suspension Grenell. You'RE GONNA play them for us right now. He got he you know he stood firm. He didn't like you know like the Eto ball is for anything you know they even got a slashing Ching penalty on the play so I think even ridder said it was the second time. He got slashed in three games. And you got to step up for your teammates and you know I'm more willing to do that. And you know and this suspension doesn't won't change that moving forward you know I was brought up in the age and and everything where you protect yourself at all times and So yeah maybe moving forward he can expect that from guys maybe not to be you ready for it. So maybe go a little lighter on them but it's hard to when it's not in your nature so I I think the main thing is just try to avoid the head you know. I know some people like to write sucker punch. I mean look up the definition of a sucker punch. They didn't talk back or anything. More of a forearm shiver that road up into his head. I thought he had some interesting comments about the sucker punch like I kind of get into semantics semantics. I didn't think it was a sucker punch. I mean the Guy Sherwood himself said he was expecting it. He said you know I went up the goal he had buried some early in the game he was being what Biz would call a real honey badger. They're all night and I'll Lucci wasn't like I did wrong. He said Yeah. I'm GonNa always defend my teammates. Therefore this is this is Scott and if you don't stick up for yourself no one else is GonNa Donna. You know he's a very old school mentality. I liked it. I liked the comments Biz. I want to see first off your reaction on the two games. Listen under under today's climate. I I said I think if he gets a game I won't be shocked. I was a little surprised to hear too. I think it's too much if you ask my opinion on how I truly feel about the whole thing. I I don't think he should have been suspended at all. I mean like I said. Don't fucking stab the goalie last episode. I said if I stab the goal that way that guys did I would turn around and be protecting acting myself knowing I just took a shot. People are saying like Oh we'll like he's trying to see if there was a loose puck. Okay we'll do it at your own risk okay. That goalie has to that goal has to feel. You're sticking his fingers you know. Why should you have to feel that pop on the Chin then right or whatever it may be? I know in that that case I think it was his pad but I mean sometimes it's the glove. I mean in the midst of how quick it is Luchik isn't like weighing all these variables. He seeing this Guy Just fucking jab by goalie. I'm GONNA pop in the fucking head. That's old school. I'm down with the old school shit in some of you. Listening aren't and I ain't GonNa fuck and apologize for that I don't consider njit nothing. Yeah very well said if he if the guy got injured Yeah Okay maybe give them a game or two but the fact that the guy didn't miss a shift and was okay I was. I won't continue to go into IT I. I don't agree that he should have. I do not agree with the suspension. I don't see how that that's that is what he ends up getting. I mean look at look at how look at. How Saint Louis reacted when Bennington came out of his crease to go bump Kyle Clifford I? I believe it was about a month ago. We talked about it. And it was many came out of his crease to create the initial contact. Yes maybe Clifford chug armed out first. But like I mean each winning stirred up the fucking five guys on the ice for Saint Louis went over and I'm telling telling you guys is like that's how winning teams think. They think were a boys club. If you want to touch my goalie I'm GonNa Take Your fucking head off. Try It to trey leaving was I never say his name he he. He didn't like it either. He was surprised at the suspension. I mean granted. That's his guy who's dealing with it but yeah odd times time to see that. Go down also to tree. Living made the same point that Lucia did that. Hey the reps gave him four minutes turn the game no match. Snow misconducts off the reps on the ice only deemed it worthy of four minutes. The why why did he get two games for art and neither guy did anything wrong she would be neither guy. The ending wrong show. Sherwood was playing to the whistle. So out there doing what he's paid to do and Lucia's paid to do And some of the fans man. It's like I wonder like how long have you been watching the NHL. For I know fighting's gone away but like it's like people get punched in the face of pussies are not going to change your thinking. It was just like they're just going to say we're evil because we think the way they do and you don't have to play or watch. What exactly and even like the Yahoo? I don't suppose Yahoo Canada. They had a sub head it said they referred to Sherwood as a victim victim ended concussion and cautioned protocol Mike really recalling a victim because he got fucking a glove to the fucking face like it was kind of like. I don't know I think indicative like the Fan mentality to call a guy fucking victim and then it doesn't mention yeah he went to the concussion protocol and then he fucking was out two minutes later. I'm back on the bench I would say ninety five percent of the people listening right now are like yeah please get in fucking soft for them baby baby shit. Can we just get like. Can we get some sort of balance. But it's always going to be the next thing de now you can't protect goalies because fucking I don't know what the guy's name Amos who jabbed them. I mean fuck do kind of flop over to be like swung as head back like everyone's like Oh my God it's like to that guy who's fucking drawing fucking fucking penalties man exactly what he was doing and he said he expected it he said I expected it to happen and one other quick note to Nhl Dot Com. It said the he was given the penalty no defense slash against Lucci but when they released the suspension video they said that Sherwood was slat hits slash the goalie. So it's kind of the League contradicted himself that I think it was just probably a Typo. Oh yeah well I was typing it out. There's so much action on the penalty that shift that it's just like one dollars. Yeah just curious who gives that Info but anyways the media has been in the news A. It'll be a little bit this week. fucking a little ironic comments to the media is through doughty. He had an issue. With the way things were presented It was after a game versus Vancouver and then he said that you know the Kings can't lose to a team like that now. What he meant was that the kings of veteran team can't lose in that manner to a team like the canucks next but the media kind of took it and made it look like he was distant that connects? We can't lose to a team like that. He wasn't shitting on the team was saying we can't lose in that manner Biz. I know I know you fucking had some thoughts on this one. Yeah it's it's it's it's GonNa keep alienating like general media from getting any type of inside died information there's no more trust anymore just like anything to get your cliques. At that moment in time. Hey I I get that. There's a part of the business to like writing catchy headlines and making ensure things get spun out of control. Even though those weren't the intentions of his words I hate. We have somewhat of a click bait headline on my. Take it off if you need to do that. Type of stuff or to fucking sell. What what you're you're making it slimy and that's why I think the integrity of like I guess you can't even really call that journalism? It's more like modern day journalism because everything's on twitter and so so they'll take back quote throw it up and then Vancouver canucks fans will fuck and go awol just like they do for everything online. They're they're they're known as one of the worst fan bases as far as aw God again. Something else era that needed it never won. I mean it's tough. It's you know you got no banners hanging. So you're always going to be a little bit bitter Syria Syria or not Sir enough. But I mean don't was so disgusted to you could tell I don't want to do anything with you guys now like. He's scared off that vibe like we're as as a reporter you're thinking well the last thing we wanna do is quiet. One of the best defenceman I and not a quote machine by any means. But he's he'll give us real opinion. They'll give you what he's really thinking. After game both different players about different systems you get honest quotes item. So when you get a guy like that WHO's just disgusted and doesn't feel like talking to any media anymore. It's not good for the game. It's just cannot help dangerous ages. Four one shorty we've got some live betting going on Ra. And then that transitioned into another issue because then he was in Toronto. And there's a question I bad cock got asked about About these comments saying what do you think of them and I feel like some some fans WanNa Babcock Damore defend his team where he was more pro lovie so then they teed up do doughty with the same question like what do you think. What do you think the least needs need to do in order to win and like get over this Hump and win a championship crafting? I haven't seen the original question. Asked asked on video. 'cause I'm hearing that like the twist is words on it but then some people are saying you know the question was what at least needed to do where he said as if what you need to do in order to win a championship. Because I've done it quite speak from experience not saying like Oh this is what the least to do so all right have you. Have you seen the original question and answer on your in length without any type of edits. No I think that was the one that was a small scrum. I peel run He said he was therefore it. And because he said it was a small scrum and he sorta he sided with with doughty. He said that he wasn't trying to sue the leaves. He was just saying in order to win. Whatever team this this is what you need to do? He wasn't saying on the League have to do this. But of course like you said. They're in Toronto. Disown much media. They're anyone any one of those jackals can can twist it's a to make it. It's not like he was distant distant. The leaves like he said Man. It's it's Click Bait. They want leks. That's money that's that's the world we live in that where they're gonNA take even if they no it's it's incorrect taking them out of context so basically yeah Peel Brunson that you know in the scrum. That was a it was a minus. Grandma was like a big one all the cameras. That's why I couldn't track down the video far. But he did say that basically like He wasn't fucking making fun of the leaves. He was saying in order to be a COUPLA on. You gotTA show Biz. That's the nature of the beast. Right now clicks people money but sale Salabi. What are you GONNA do Meanwhile back on the sheet Sunday night in the OC Ryan gets laughed played in his one thousand NHL game in front of the same fans. He'd been chair. That had been sharing for for him for fifteen seasons. Now the first doc in franchise history to reach a thousand games and it's so weird that over the last forty years he six in team wins a player who spent their first thousand games with the same team. It's pretty impressive. That many WS and a thousand games five hundred forty eighty ad which you play with Ghezzi for a little bit. What are your thoughts fairbrother? What a guy? What A? What a teammate? What a career? He's done at all the dominance in international hockey not not just in the NHL. And what's crazy. I mean he got he got two thousand. He's only been played two full seasons. I think remind uh-huh maybe the law co year. He got a full year but any single time. This guy's been on the ice his entire career since he first came in when it was him in Perry Penner. There was a young guy on that team. He made an impact so he could play physical. He could play talk. You've seen him fight a modern day. I'll catch him ship ship for this like a modern day Mark Messier. In a way like where he was dirty. Shit he'd elbow you he would fucking do anything. It took to score but his hands in his setup and he he will forever admit. I'm sure that he's a setup. Guy I mean he's head coaches since he was ten years old and a begging him to shoot the puck. Because not often do you beg a guy so you see you see beautiful dishes of the puck out there and guys who are set up man and constantly looking looking to pass I. Won't you see a lot of times. That happened because their shots aren't that good. Good get slaps as good as anyone when he snaps even now. He's a through through this season. He's already got seven goals in seventeen games. A couple bar down just like old school rish shots that is just as so much philosophy on it. So the way he's been able to play hard Play mean create. It always dominated offensively. And I'll never forget the year I got traded from the penguins. Chris Kunitz ended up winning three Stanley Cups with the penguins. He has four four total suck on that greatest of all time for the Pittsburgh Penguins but that year I went to Anaheim and we went on a nice little run we the eighth seed and we beat San Jose in the first round and then in the second round we took Detroit to game seven and Danny clear scores about a minute left so we had a nice club there. I mean progress need. Mr How wouldn't you but gets off all my God. Thirteen Games in the playoffs that year. Eighteen points US playing twenty seven minutes tonight so I don't know if it would have been able to continue to get to the third round and possibly the finals before playing not much but it was some of the most dominant hockey I've ever witnessed and he went on. You know the next year was when they won on the The gold medal in Vancouver and just it just an incredible player Somebody that I think that if he was on the east and he he was one of the original guys. You would always hear people save if you played for the Rangers of the fires or somewhere east. He'd be be a bigger name than he is now but two guys who play and fans who watch Anaheim highlight. He's a superstar. I played under eighteen with him and he I think he was the MVP the tournament. He was a beast that he I think. Where was he playing? Was He complained. Regina Pitman Calgary Hitmen s rights from Regina And they didn't have great teams. He missed playoffs with Calgary or maybe they got beat. Oh first round around. But he got the company under eighteen and we didn't have the type of weapons That we had at the first one because we do one at the ad the end of summer but going into the season and he was the one guy who had made the team originally but now he was on the team. Because we'd missed the few guys because they were still in play offs and I was like Holy Fox. This guy's like a huge. He skates really well. He's an unreal. Passer dare he was sleeping too but as you said he kinda evolved to like Joe Thornton into point all where he's always I pass option right. Yeah always look to pass break away and be looking like left right. And that's absolutely some very similar to Joe Thornton. They really remind me of one another and I think that gets left. Shot is way better than thorns. I would agree. But he's yeah he's not using get enough right. I agree but gets pulls in with that big curve jumbos just has like a bigger straighter. I don't see him snapping. It like gets off Gan another another example. Apple's just how big they are out there you go to a game and get Slavic. Looks like he's a giant. Looks like he's one of the fucking guys in space jam that you know what's surname the stars. That's one movie I haven't seen Ra. I know but he was like he needed. You wants Biz. But I was an adult when that came out it was just one of those kids movies. I I never got the cat show. I also not. I don't know that the legitimacy legitimacy of this but I was told gets laugh the season would end and he wouldn't put his skates back on until a you know a week or two before camp when he'd come back to Anaheim so that's the case I mean and if there's somebody who could probably pull that off it's him like the just the natural freak but I don't know I went to see how much longer he goes is a hall of fame career and that's no doubt right there. Maybe we'll get invited to is as a nomination like playing in Anaheim what you said what. He's Kinda flown into the rate. AL probably a little too much. I think in a different city. He'd probably get more at proper do because he's one on hell of a player addy buco as a free meal waiting for the shoe to another big milestone Tuesday night Montreal's Dana Charrette played in his fifteen hundred game. I A. and Kudos to the fans I mean they have huge respect for the game in. Its history I know they hate shower and they you know. They gave him a pretty nice polite applause. Where you know other cities might not on that show a tip of the fans? I hate saying classy. Because that's such a one thing but it was a nice gesture I thought and I. It's fucking six. Most Games ever played by D.. After Chellios Stevens Murphy walked in Lidstrom all in the hall of fame Twenty-first all time third among active guys. Patty Milo and jolt on ahead of them unreal career. I mean we've talked about a million times on busy gunfires buddy in the reason you brought that up was because there is a history there I mean of course the Boston connection in Montreal. Aw rivalry right there. But you're talking about when you head packed ready and there was a huge ordeal. where the doubts they really started hating? 'em Yeah So. Yeah that's what. I was alluding to the whole history to the all the all the just I was just kind of saying it because like I know that that happened. We sometimes we get a lot of new listeners. Listeners are sometimes I even hockey fans with it'd be like oh well. Why was that classy? Select thinking from their perspective. That was like a man like I think that situation like they try to bring welcome to corridor arrest him and they called nine one one and shit. Yeah that's what I'm saying. So this was a bigger deal for non hockey fan. I'm making the moves like other. What else happened did they try to? Also bring him to court or sue him to they fucking wind about it for years. I was actually actually surprised. They gave him that good of a ovation and I know they do respect the game but I almost want to respect if they booed the shit out of them when they announced that fifteen. Eight hundred games for anyone. If you're not a fan they. Everyone should just be amazed at that. This guy played this guy's rookie year. He's driving a ninety six thirteen. By the way this year. He turns forty three and March. And I I don't I know last year was kind of a little different. It was different year where he played less took step backs maybe in a sense but he's over twenty minutes a game. If not twenty one this year he looks pretty solid. They're teams a wagon next year. If he plays he'd be turning forty or in the middle of next year. So it's crazy to see this. It's going down with a guy this big somebody. You'd think body may break down with the way he takes care of it. He has like a Cappuccino a year. That's his treat once a year. He's a freak. Whatever he doesn't put any junk into his body like the dog here but I was GonNa say ninety seven ninety eighty played for the islanders? She played twenty five games bro. Some of the names on this team. Tom Chore Ski. Sergei Cheang off Trevor Linden Rich Pilon. Joe Sacco Joe. Sacco is assistant coach for the Bruins. Now they played together so it's just been wild to see somebody do it this long and especially for people who didn't get to see the beginning. This guy was terrible. I know that sounds like stupid. He was horrible. I mean he was a huge enormous warmest based like way graph on skates way. Couldn't he didn't have them. He didn't his body had grown into itself yet. If that makes any sense and then he worked so hard. This work ethic is unparalleled told the story that during the last lockout. He flew home from like Slovakia wherever he he was coming from you might not he might have been China. I don't know where he was. He flew home landed at midnight and the next day was on the ice with us at eight. AM skating eating. It be Oh and there was no end of the lockout in sight so work ethic has gotten him to fifteen hundred games taking care of his body and being a fucking freak because when he really turned turned into the player he became. Oh my God. He's The scariest player in the League. I mean he's a prime example. If you if you want it bad enough you can so you can work hard enough to achieve and and people would say. Oh He's a big guy. He's a physical freak. Well like in hockey. That's not necessarily a positive. Okay because not a a lot of guys at big can move around fast enough and and and be quick enough in certain situations and be coordinated enough to play the game of hockey would. Is that a fair assessment. Yes Muniz and and even when he was in his young adulthood he was still ganglion. Still trying to get his feet from under like baby near he was a baby. Deer still like probably at the National Hockey League level of over. He just kept working and working and working and yes when he gets it done sometimes is it maybe not work as pretty as the other guys. But he found a way to get it done in his way and and and it's a credit to him and it's just a story of perseverance for anyone listening just put Falkland working and look what happened. I was with our boy Ned. Everyone remembers that Haberman former us and we were talking actually about Charles Fifteen hundred game and and ned was at camp with the Bruins when Charlie was there and said we were all in line to do the poll up tests and this dude ripped his shirt off and had like spandex on and proceeded to thirty to pull ups arms all the way straight his arms seventeen feet long straight all the way thirty two I want to say the next highest. Maybe maybe at some maybe guys get twenty thirty two. When you're six x four nine and you wingspan is like a jet plane kidding me? So he's a freak but like I said it was all hard work and it was all just never being satisfied with where you're at only trying to get better. He's still doing it to this day. So congrats Z.. Yeah when he first broken definitely a guy was gonNA play twenty two years in and what. I'd and safe from Boston perspective. He's the best free free agent signing in Boston sports history. Would you agree across all sports. Did they not. They traded for poppy. I I did actually know what I'm not sure. If he was a free agent they in fact they actually traded from Minnesota for. Bobby I give me a little bit more time but yeah yeah. He's certainly right up there. I just I don't know any legendary Celtics that they might assign. But Yeah He. He changed the whole franchise around absolutely no doubt about it. So Kudos Z.. For fifteen hundred good stuff in what I was an unreal game to not to mention that helps nip the beast five to four. What did you think of that? offsides challenged man. I thought that was I. Thank you Oracle. And here's my thing. Well actually before I say this I don't even know this is correct but I am I not am I wrong in that. If you if you have control the puck your your feet can be in the zone before the puck right like we have focused all right. Everyone listening anyone watching that Game Charlie. coyle has control of that park. That is a hockey player. He meant to do exactly exactly what he did which is kick it up from his back foot so to say that that is in having full control because it's on his stick and he's not carrying up the ice with his head. Upper upper looking to make a play. Dude that is such a good place. Such a nifty move with having good feet having great edge work and being able to full speed will kick in the puck up to yourself should be considered having possession. He ended up making a great play after that. And so for the Bruins to get gypped on a call like that if I were if I hadn't I bet I bet the hats but if I bet the Bruins I would've lost my marbles boys. I didn't see the clip so I can't really calm honestly. He collects a pass. You know it's a little behind him and does the crosby. The outside foot kicks it up. Didn't do we make laid touch. Did he touch it with his stick blade before he knocked it to escape. No no okay. So that's probably what they're saying he doesn't have control my whole point. Is that was exactly what you meant to do. So that's in control and then the video biz. It's like you can't even imagine how small of area of the Blue Line the PUCK is apparently early. Still touching I don't know it was just to watch that and see it. Go down on his walk said Yeah it should be good and it also it also is the fact that it's it's it's an awesome play at high speed the NHL play. That should be shown on replays. When that's the goal they show the next morning and all the highlights it gets taken away for some brutal offsides call? It was. That wasn't a good good. Look and the one thing too is like I feel like it was still touching him as it was going over the line. which as you said that would be considered control? So I don't know I mean I. It's like a fifty fifty but like I agree like that the fact that that was called back. It's doing more harm or harm to the game. Then good yeah. I mean reversing a goal on that fucking clip which is bad call. I know it sounds like sour grapes on the bees guy but yet did fuck me on the bed chosen. That'd be an up five four fucking tie game. It goes the other way but Sailor v I one interesting note though the Bruins had only given up eight first period goals in fourteen games before that they gave up three of them on Tuesday night To had a bad game he give up. I thought three bad goals. But how about our Guy Nate Thompson. I'll late in the game. 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Grow your mustache fundraise for your chance to win the grand prize so boys checkout movember if you haven't done that yet At a quick trade we didn't gets last step The devils quiet goaltender Louis demand from Tampa in exchange for a conditional seventh round. Pick of the twenty twenty one draft and we have some big injury updates as as well after a top staff. The Dallas is really turn things around before the season pretty much could slip away from them. They went four in a row. Seven of eight but they will be without Defenseman Jon Kleinberg for at least two weeks. He took Biz Nikitas as the door shot to the head neck. Area suffered a lower body injury on the same play They're also have off of also been with Rupa into the last couple of games. He's got a lower body injury but he should be back in the lineup showing he took a big hit over the weekend Brian Little of Winnipeg. He took a Nikolai rely. Ill is bomb off the squash. I don't I saw that. That was scary as amended full on pork. Right off the head. He had lead the game at caught him up by the he scared off on his own. our get twenty five to thirty stitches. What's a little scary? He started the year it with a concussion. He missed the first nine games so hopefully he didn't get another one there. We hate to see those guys get got him Patrick. placed on the hour the lower body injury for the Pittsburgh Penguins in a quick update on big buffer. Darren drag the NHLPA continues tinge to gather information on the buffet case. It's likely a grievance will be filed by the Players Association wants the Matt has been fully reviewed. NHL Head office will contest. If when it gets to that point so looks like we're going to have a little thing knock down drag them out. Possibly with the League will keep tabs on that and probably the one of the best stories of the night on on Tuesday the island is cold by though he scored his first. NHL Goal on a fucking penalty shot. That's an all time great. Memory he was jacked after an rightfully show. There's a great scene because we able to catch that highlight I did yeah. He was fired up and it wasn't a great shot. Kinda like hit hit like the six whole area and just like trickled. Dana basie hit the middle of the net so not a great goal but nonetheless excited Halley. Shot a little more excitement than usual. Fuck Fuck Ya. I love seeing that his interview after two he was I think he said I could barely talk right. Now he's just you could see you so generally pumped up to him. That was a good moment in this islanders crazy Ron Jeez they buzzer. They are and that's why we brought in our next guest. Kevin Conley have cost entourage fame rocky five fame and now we wanted to get his perspective and like you said he dropped them with a couple of guests as well so I'll let him right now. We'll further do Kevin Connolly Guys I've been getting yelled at online by all these islander fans not showing enough respect. You guys have talked about enough. I think we've talked about them. Last four episodes Ra. If I'm if I'm not mistaken pretty much bitch and and then this guy who's on now himself texts me today. Not Enough love for the Anders Ten in Rome Nam. Amanda NASA. Welcome back to the PODCAST. Evan Connelly thanks for having me guys thanks for having me. Yeah I mean listen you know. This is another ten ten in a row but after the nine mark I'm on NHL DOT COM. I'm on ESPN and there's nothing. There's no stories the website so then I go to you know. Of course course. You can always count on the chocolates boys. I figured there's gotTa be some love going on and there was not a lot happening so it's tough to win in the show tough to win. Michelle McKinnon Arroyo is no joke now. We saw Pablo when Rowlatt. Sheriff remembers how that went. I don't think it all that's going to happen to this islanders team. They are too you deep to well coach. Can You admit and maybe you can't as a die hard fan. Can You admit they're not the most exciting team to watch. I think they get a little lost in the shuffle. Because it's it's it's winning hockey but it can be boring winning on. There's nothing boring about ten in a row I understand I think it's a market thing. Well listen I I I WANNA go back to back up a little bit. I would have bury the hatchet with Ra Ra but we good what happened. I blocked twitter million years ago. Yup Oh fuck in love this I feel it. I know when I feel a little tension if I ended your fucking delicate sensibilities instabilities I apologize. I'm kidding around. Three bad reviews talk. Every single move rotten. Tomatoes is getting the worst fucking review from. Oh Gosh I'm not sure I'm the one who's delicate over here. I apologize if I did something to anybody. I'm sorry no no you didn't offend me. I think we we just had I honestly I think it was tied to that. Katie Nolan back when she used to be a fan of boss. Don't like bicoastal and representative Boston. I kind of defend than Boston. You know we sniped at each other and then it was blocked all good man not on beloved. It's fucking early block asking Hamadan Block. You let some block each other. I Apologize Listen in in the early days. I think we can all agree in the early days of twitter bike if felt so personal. Everything you know. It's like you realize now that they're just all everybody's an animal all right myself included but at the time you know it it feels close to home so you get defensive. You know so but I'm sorry my bad congratuations on and everything is going well and I applaud you to Kevin Scheid probably offended y'all by da all the time we just be the alone. Hear what Frank Trump for a few minutes. I'll wait turtle. Yeah we're we're we. We're talking about the honors now with your with your right get it. You know. It's funny because when when the devils levels you know they're they're they kind of one those cups I mean. Yeah they had bro door. You know and Scott Stevens but there was a similar sort of style and I remember as a fan thinking kind kind of like rolling. My eyes a little bit at that. That wasn't exciting but to see your team. Just come together. You know look to are the vars thing last year you know and they just haven't I haven't missed a beat. You know they had that big layoff you know. They had that big again not making excuses. But you know the layoff can be a lot and I think that the island has had a big layoff often. They got swept by Carolina. But I mean come on. They've they've just been absolute savages ever sits a cons. I completely agree with you and I'm going to say they get no love because you're right. I haven't heard a lot about this winning streak. I didn't. I didn't even hear about it until I think they got to eight. That's even that's a significant difficult number. Now it's it's just hard because I'd have to agree with where I just feel like. It's like the brand doesn't Paul they end brand grand doesn't pop no hear me out is like it's not. It's not necessarily cool to go to games there. Because they're fucking winning and they can't even sell. Oh like what the fuck so there's like. There's what are you talking ticket sales. And how do you know what they're taking sales. Are I mean nowadays in the Internet it's got to be Cho- ADIA now. Listen I may be mistaken okay now. Wasn't there an issue. Get the start of the year. They had a game somewhere. They only drew like eleven thousand fans or something. Ra you help me out here. Yeah well I mean right now our as as like Oh let's listen there was nobody in the arena for the amount of success. They had last year leading into of this year. They should be doing very well in that market. It's weird like with again. The brands not fucking popping and then they don't do come in. That's right there's harlow runs a very tight ship. Listen it's going to be boring so it's going to be very hard to sell in that area because there's so many exciting things go to now. And that's just the reality I think scuffing against them. I don't think it's a brand issue. I think it's the Brooklyn decision was is a disaster and I think that's kind of defined. This error of island is hockey right now. It was a terrible decision and the fact that building a new arena in with the old one. Was it just shows Asia. How silly it was because people don't WanNa go to games in Brooklyn Right? You can get into six dollars right. You must look good on paper. It obviously didn't work out. It has to be arenas blocked. They got that stupid car which is finally gone and the scoreboard wasn't centered. I mean yeah I mean if you build a billion dollar arena you gotta be able to send to the scoreboard aboard. I don't know I agree. And they're behind the eight ball with the arena situation now. Are you telling me with this team right now. Once that new read is built built. And it's it's there you're going to sell out on a regular basis if they do now. Well I'm talking about you. Know the way way listen. It's all about the commute right. It was a it was a tough commute for like. They made a thing they sold. Hey jump train. But it wasn't that easy. It was always just kind of a nightmare Brooke. Everybody hated the all. The players hated the coliseum. And then they started playing in Brooklyn and everybody's talking about how great the coliseum was you know so it's been a little bit a you know. I think this is part of the problem. Because you know I'm not gonNA discount what you said but like you know maybe maybe that style of hockey you know whatever sportscenter material material but ten in a row is sports material. What they're playing part of the reason I said that to is like with Lou being there in order to get the people in the building and people spending money and stuff? You kinda gotta get let people in a little bit show these guys personalities right and they don't do along what Lou has done. Unusual Lewis stripped me of all of my islander credentials. Aloe really surprising. Why would they weren't celebrities around around? He's closing another door there. He's closing another door. There could have been the rock and he would have taken away. He would've headlock when he did. I'm yeah I I literally I. I'm I'm scared of who I went to the shovel ceremony at Belmont the new arena. And like I I got I was like I don't WanNa meet Lu. I'm afraid you know what I mean. He already took away. My all access pass last thing I need is to get banned from the arena. You know but look the truth and and it really is true like if you keep playing like this who cares. Just just win win. If keep winning you know so but of course Boston is like they just these guys. Just don't lose. There's nasty eighteen. Hey hold on going into this year after now you said it was awesome regular season. Everyone knew that they did get hurt by the layoff but a sweep in the first shot still a good year going into this year. What did you expect truthfully? Do you think they would build on and be as good as they are right now. Were you thinking kind of how I was like. It might be a step back at this this year. Well I mean we you know they had a quiet. You know off season with regards to free agency so you think like well you know who knows but I think I think bars will just get. He just gets better and better. I mean how is this guy. Not Primetime guys not love bars. I mean he's he's the adage you know and they're playing they're playing you know they're playing they're playing the team game and all the cliches and I'm not that I you know I don't I don't even need to say but I mean as a fan it's obviously it's a blast to watch so you know also too. There's a lot of hockey left you think about the Blues Larry Flowers and the Blues. You know they they were they were in in what last place on January second fucking three day before yes cons can I ask you. A question are year. Oh he watching closely enough. Where would you know where the relationships relationships at between Barzel trots and the reason I say that is because Barzel is like now? He's an offensive juggernaut. He just wants to go and he wants to take risks offensively where is trying to mold them into that two way player and in trying to communicate to him that. Hey you can't take as many chances. Offensively really isn't a chance. A risk to take their. You're putting us in more jeopardy. Pretty Bhai risking it in trying things one on one and Blah Blah Blah. Do you think that they're butting heads to the point where where it might become a dysfunctional relationship relationship. I mean I mean obviously so far so good You know I would never I you know. I don't know enough about the game too. I mean I know enough about the game is a fan but I would never try to you. Know get inside trots his head or or bars head. I mean I I don't know it's it's early in the season I'm not too. I'll check again after that because like I mean when it comes to free agency or contracts or whatever situation it was clean. Well that's what I'm saying is like maybe he should you know right but lose notorious for for being kind of take it or leave it so there might be some head budding going on there because Bar's going to be like I should be getting paid like an eighty point guy because fucking I can only take this many risks. Offensively I'm still leading the team scoring. I know it's only sixty points but you can't compare me to the guy the other team because he's GonNa he gets the play with fucking down in Tampa he gets the plane on a high flying flying offense like a wet. You mentioned it. You said Abberley. He was like yeah man like. We don't really take that many chances suffocating kind of offense and look I love I love the the the the gang as as it is. Obviously the guy's GonNa put up eighty points this year. And he's an or maybe more and he's going to have to get paid. I mean I don't think I mean they're. They're not expecting to get a team friendly deal. I'm guessing right. So He's GonNa get paid. He should get paid. You know actually guys I got I got something for you so bit. A bit of a surprise I mean I you know I always feel like you know whatever. I'm coming on spitting chocolates the biggest hockey podcast. I guess on the planet what am I don't know I'm just a fan but I got a guy here who you guys all probably know. And he's like out. He's doing a tour. He's selling a book okay. I'm GONNA put him. I'M GONNA put him on the phone. He's a hall of Famer here. He is hold on all right guys. I know you have no idea who does so. Salani many bad action. You recognize me right away way I could see through the Internet. Used to rock in the Anaheim locker room with your Ra. Thank you beautiful golf. Swing how are you. I'm doing great. How you guys doing? Hey Hey we need I think you haven't. I can't believe Oh you haven't asked me in in your show yet. START HERE IS A. Here's shop right now team. I saw my shot. I got on Instagram to you. For years t move please I was in our of you have a show. I have this podcast not even answer. You ghosted ball bullshit. Let's the thing is the thing I only. I only see goalsoring instagram. And then my son loves your show and he always said that you should go in there. Show well they don't call you EH. We'll be in so cal tomorrow. I'll be on a first class or could sit in the back and we'll come on the ship audion person. They're not gonNA stop hiding me anytime you want. Hey why don't you ooh team. Oh it came out like Love to finish person gave two thousand fourteen but the English version game like last week and we have been doing. Listen around it has been fun one question considering we got you on the line we are going to get you on. I think we should get you live. Give us a little teasers to to what they should expect maybe a story of the vault about what anything about any I I. Actually I had a great story about his Ryan. You know how your member before. The Olympics rented cooler. Well in our last game on me and the Kasaka Coy. Who and you? We're sitting in the airport having a couple beers and then you said that guys. Can you even imagine if we would have to play in it and Well Yeah I think about and he said Oh my God God so right after after first or second day you got traded through Adam it. Ty actually remember saying that and you and tackle looked at each other like fuck thinking back for that day they knew I was getting shipped Outta town like don't wrath breath so funny Jarrai here. We actually drank this together about twenty five years ago when who are in Tau with big Walton the jets and we used to meet up at the high number. We'll big wealth would have about seven hundred people at the game after all it was. Well probably not yeah. We hung out and gets smashed up one of those games way. Back Ninety three ninety four. Remember coudl days you know. There's we went out every night. The guys right after the game which showed underpass off and how to be right away now these days they how those shakes and stuff so at the time when the boys were mad about. At is your son still. He's on northeastern isn't he. Actually he's been to carry college in Boston. He went through. He didn't get the enough is timing northeastern so he wanted go Detroit and enjoy hockey. Yeah but that You'RE GONNA come to Austin or one absolutely absolutely. I come like maybe two or three three times a season so after I got a couple of POPs okay. I'm in Zam. Maybe maybe we'll get you to do a CCM sandbags potatoes show. I don't know if you saw that was team. Who Basically me and Ryan takeout on a golf course you you and anyone you want the plan your team and me and Ryan beat the wheels off you and we went dinner and a night on the town and an interview with Kit? Okay I I mean I mean I know I know Ryan Swing so I'm not worried about all seen my buddy. Yeah I bet you like three three thirty three or four after tea. No yeah maybe feet beat might get out of all park. What about what about the tennis career body? What are you better at Golf or tennis? Words I see you playing with veteran stuff. Yeah I beat him one time you can appoint off of what he double-fault so fifteen thousand people downtown Helsinki. We played me and my finished borough against Peter Forsberg underwrote. You're fitter beat them seeks tree so I'm undefeated against so that's my my highlight of my tennis game. You still outracing caused the one hundred fifty miles an hour speed and around the whips. No I don't I don't I don't speed anymore. It's just a high calm down why I'm sure that. Ra's poking fun at the ticket that you had to pay that was like what fifty grand or something uh for fifty five thousand eighteen these people. They think they're so smart that The tickets are based on your income. You know and and they think it should hurt him. Wave every every person so Not Unbelievable you know. That's that's that's out there. Hey speed anymore. I'm just driving nice and licensed law. You know fifty five K.. We'll do that and You breach you briefly mentioned Forsberg. You know him pretty well yes we talk. He's one of our guys that we want to the the podcast would. Would you be able to get him on for us to stop -solutely I think who would love that. He's a great guy but I think he was bored. He tried to abusive about intriguing. But I think he missed hockey action to tease speaking a hawk action. Just the other night Ryan gets off gets his thousandth game. You were there at the beginning of his this career you guys. When I came over I remember you? Guys just busted each other's balls non stop. It must be cool to see what he's done. He's a little bit different of a hairstyle at at this point in his career than than when they first came into the league. Yeah you know what. I'm so happy I I'm very proud of this he. SPN planes so well for a long time and now he reads thousand two thousand games and I always remember when he was young on the. US Kinda laughed at me that you know I played for a long time and and just away. You gotta play as long as I am and and And now he's still going strong thousand games on you. Know he's still years ahead so He's he's a great guy and he's doing great. I'm I'm very happy for him a team. I got one question about the Carlisle situation. What's what's what happened with when you took US number? When he ended up leaving Winnipeg or something like that where he He he will you ask for number you asked him where you a rookie and you ask them for a number. Yeah you know what I actually I offer. Fifteen thousand came to the number but he didn't like that idea. Yeah he was. You know I thought like you know it would be not so sensitive the issue pointing but Yeah offer Monte on he got it okay no problem. I take a thirteen episode scores. Seventy six mistakes. It sounds like you're enjoying you know you'd have to be in great. You know obviously not happy and and You know like you guys know when you when you leave So many s with somebody else gets real and now you manage your own. It's it's it's a fun time you know and so far so good I haven't really be any to get back into hockey hockey life and stuff so I'm very happy where I'm right now. Well team all our fans are gonNA. It'd be so thrilled to hear from you. And and I'm sure they can't wait for the live interview There's so many people that love you WanNa hear your stories and what you have to say and even even in your personal life too so can't wait to get you on pal. How can we get together and we do it team quick before you go? What have you eaten today like? What was breakfast Akwesasne lunch me any shares still? Just just good fuel for that body. Try to eat healthy I tried to balance because I like the way I like to cook too so I have to be smart with the food so the core flakes with strawberries and one one toast and coffee and then lawn three hood Just Ragu Pasta. Okay Okay Dave Ed today because we went to a couple Show so we had one glass of wine. So that's usually I don't drink during the day but well it's only six thirty six thirty. You've got plenty hours left crush bottle. We we make it a thing to where you describe what you had to eat that day. I love x time because I don't know is that was so amusing to anyone else. Okay I actually. I think we all should go. My restaurant in Laguna Beach. We like good food. Good wine That'll be that'll be after the sandbag invitational in the interview. And then maybe we'll make a t shirt of youtube but we'll let you know something. Thanks a lot they all right thank you. Thank you team buddies. Okay next bar you are. We getting do wow do they. Were the right now. He dropped trying to suit them up. We're GONNA get him. He looks great. It looks great You know it's funny when when you guys asked me last question I got watching because we're inside the in in the booth and glass. I'm Mike watching sounds like trying to talk. You know intelligently about Trots and bars all and I'm like thinking like waving them in and then they're talking about golf so I I. There's a little distracted on that last question. So that's fine by the way. I don't even know what the question was but I was so distracted but I was I had I do. It was unreal. I was just trying to create fake drama Bars Ellen Trot since about it maybe it would manifest data fast and it would ruin their little winning streak and I'd be happy about it because they threw snakes Gionta various last year on the ice. And that's this year old girl through one seek a thirteen year old girl through what how about how about coming back from T- from Timu coming back to me. It's Kinda like switching from like the Blackhawks back to Audrey game right now. Exciting for the fans out there like wait. Wait wait wait wait put on our. We're traffic. Yeah no no no listen I. It doesn't even. It doesn't even matter because I got I got. I got another one. I got another special guest. You're ready right now. Now I do I do. Yeah hold on. It'd be quick we'll keep it quick but You know this this. This man needs though introduction hold on areas. This guy's definitely not a hall of Famer by by any chance that you probably don't recognize my but it's all sweat Biz. What's up? Boys lost his voice. I actually get all be for the sandbag invitational. You'd be the perfect. I'll reverse him beggar with my momma five handicap. I never speak eighty works pro affiliate. Thanks for a free meal so let's rock and roll baby. I'm always good for a free meal. That story Flash told about you at the airport. He told told me that before he got on with you. That's one of the best stories ever heard buddy best at the airport like whose name it was in. The car was in the they got us like a big old. Limos me gets left Perry team on on the ride. I look at it as wasteland. Imagine fucking point interest payments aboard an hour and a half to the airport and then I remember there like it's not that bad team was like I look Winnipeg sound like an asshole the bill and six six days after we lose the gold medal game shipped up to eat down. All we got you on. We've gotTA talk about your new podcast with Josh Cooper congratulations by the way. Yeah thanks. Yeah so Just doing a little podcast with the ducks kings and the Orange County lifestyle and stuff like that so so. Don't let anyone tell you boys you're jobs easy by the way 'cause it's a little more difficult than I want one thought it was but I'm trying to break down the game and pump up the ducks and pump of the kings and we'll China's some fun with it but I wish I could tell that to everyone and now that Ron a conversation as you're getting into a new sport right. There's some times times where we have guests on. Where where I listen after my damn I was interrupting them a little too much or you know one day? Maybe the jokes are clicking in one day you listen afterward you're saying like too much and it's got to carve out skills man it's GonNa take time and the reason I want more guys like you to do it because I think they'd the unbelievable at it but sometimes guys are afraid of maybe the negative feedback off hop man. Fuck those people they don't they're just fucking they're barking from the sidelines sidelines. He'd never lived long as I said. I don't give a shit about feedback from the nose day visit from those weeds aren't they does does it does it. You're a little bit like have you gotten any negativity yet and has it upset you Well a little bit of negativity see flash by the way boys flash looks like he can still play. I'm telling you this guy looks like he just looks like right now and snap around. No problem work to how fall if he thinks good when when we get an in person with them if he thinks upbringing up as eight inch hammer. He's crazy S- crisis. That's one of the best lines ever told me one day. I guess you're like it's almost like he's always gotta small space. You're like why wouldn't you look at them sick. Carsick hair buckle under goals. got a rope on them. You got it. And then at the end the absolute wagon hanging them and eat his legs. It's Okay Lisa loses hair or or something. He looks to say way boys. It's pretty impressive. I'll be don't don't let the negative stuff get you down. There is a fine line between like good criticism and like people. Just being assholes goes by you. You always WanNa take good criticism but don't get caught up in it because you know way rabbit hole fall down just fucking throwing employed away and another thing to your self aware enough to know like like if somebody criticizing and you're like yeah. You know what I was doing that I will work on that. It's good and then the other shit dude fuck off so don't let deter you and if you if you ever Wanna come on and shoot the shit like we want you guys coming on a little bit more to your your funny guy. Think all these different stories pop up because I mean we've we've had so many of them. Yeah we we have been. I WanNa talk about these pink. Whitney's boys well what's going on this cocktail. Is this joy was it looks because I mean on Instagram and everywhere it looks. It looks like the only guys join abroad or starting to slug it back. which for me is you know? Kind of the most important thing of these broads are stuck in back. It's gotTa be good right. Oh man it's it's built. It's built for younger kids with the color and it being so sweeten the sugar probably making people a little bit hung over and when you don't get hung over when you're young it's beautiful what I got plenty of people my age and older enjoying it. Nice one on the rock toby. It's the perfect southern California drinks. I mean you always in summer there feels like you. You know what I think. Well I think it would be great on the golf course. Where did where did you invent it? I mean I love the fact that people think I invented it. I'm like yeah right. Yeah no no no track and I always drank a golfing. I just I used to. I used to pour the Newman's own in there and then I just we pundits it's tires one night and people went absolutely Bananas Bananas for all of a sudden now now. We have threats from Canada. If they don't get it they might stop listening to us so it's gone. I'm from me. Just introducing a hell of a Gulf summer drink diet for this. Oh I'll say this is like I was. I tried it and I was like. Oh Shit. This is pretty fucking garlic. I I wouldn't normally drink drink like that. But they nailed it. I think they didn't expect it to be as popular as it was and and really to be honest neither did. I didn't know it was an off like that. And as we mentioned like we had we've had to like scramble and got on phone calls with these guys because we're getting like threats Canadians like we don't get this to them because they're not getting to enjoy the experience and it is one my only concern though what the side of it is. How is that going to be a little pricier back home for sure? I the Canadians as well. We'll buck up for a nice cocktail beverage. visit where we're going to cut on certain things but I'll call is not one of them buddy. You know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA get what it takes. That's why I have to work so hard because like we. We spent a ridiculous amount of money on trying to get laid only. It was a lot easier easier. It was a lot easier when you had the actual. NHL Card your wallet. It was a lot easier to get laid back to his now. I know that card was magic. Wasn't it bit. I'm sure you're still doing all right. Yeah I mean we're doing all right but you gotta let wine and Dine of a little bit sometimes work in the game. They come to the game or what. Oh now you WANNA come a game. I'll meet you after tickets. CEO deal these off it. It did you used to let the Girls Valley your car down below like we're stroll up through that we're the VAMP. The entrance was hey. I wish I was that cool but I never thought I never saw anything like that. I wish that sounds like a pretty good pretty good play. Yeah but you know the type of guy you are. That's like the story that goes around the vote. You and everyone just like anyone would have done it. It would have been old. I would've been it would've been Orbi I think don't you think I think I'll be probably not speaking of Opsahl Classic upshaw. The kid gets to Switzerland to play for. I think ambery P auto whatever. The name is about two days ago and then I sees instagram. Today's on a chat Trained to Paris to watch a soccer game. I'm like he's going to be yeah. I saw that too crushing Burgers and drinking beers on like man. If lucky was like that I'd still be playing well. What happened to me I I was allowed to drink beer? Burgers like upshaw knows how to do it. That's for sure have we have. We had you on since the loophole told the story about the Bouncer in Cincinnati. No Oli Jacobsen though. I obviously listened pause and that was everything he said was true of. Just you remember that year Biz talk over here. There's just my head's mutants like three deep deep and Brookbank like I was never listening. I I would drop the gloves but you know I was never like a legit legit guy and I'm like bang with these big boys. That are all juiced up and finally like being brookbank Brookbank tour Captain Casey Hankinson like. Hey we we need a guy here. We need someone like we thought they call them up from the coastal right like someone from the cheese we pull this guy out of a bouncer CONSECO and Audi comes and straight up goon style to kind of kick them out. He goes and he did this thing though. He didn't win many but he showed up every night and he was a great teammate. He was huge for us as a as a young team. Because you know more than anyone not league was it was essential. Then it's just taking the other meat heads attention off of you like you get to just kind of player the game and and not turning over pox. Because you're like Oh God come out this shift I still turn pucks over that nothing to do with the guy that took install pucks over but I just wanted to go to deal with. That's all I WANNA do right. DD BACK TO D. I mean if they if they can't score right what if I could do do one thing one thing again in NHL game. I would be on the offense of Blue Line with my partner and go. Dd Seven Times enough where the forwards in front of Blake Shelton. PA snap it back over to the other guy people who would drive guys insane but I just felt like a boss sitting in a rocking chair. Snap in over my partner and it was nothing better. If you wouldn't want I I remember back a day. When you call around the net your head was always up like never looking at the biscuit just head up slowing it down moving up on like this guy never looked biscuit? How does he do it like I mean you were you were Nice? Little will be player. I knew I knew teddy per cell and I. We're going to be really good buddies. The first time I met him. He's a you. Don't even know what color the puck is. I've never felt better about myself as a human thanks. Teddy let's go hang out the beauties right now. Where are you guys right now? What would you guys in Philly or where are you guys Chicago? I was GonNa ask you the same thing. We're all spread out me in Boston. Cornell Zion and business out in the desert with these concepts by I'm hanging out with conscious new studio Actually Park media here in West. Hollywood cool little spot. He's put together so I've been up the last couple of weeks. We're drinking some black label. Komo Irishman here. Just Kinda just catching up. And I'm trying to convince them in the poconos out in Hollywood could still be calling to get me into bars here. So he doesn't come. Line is the whole process and as painful metropolitan camera the visit Hollywood. I Remember Avenue Bridge a good night. They're aw body did we ever. We ended up going this fucking. We ended up going wherever you go after the per pet pet peninsula member got that big voice yet the peninsula. Yeah there's like Florida's like four floors to like Florida and it's fucking thing Brawley this everywhere. It was Granola I texted after this night. We Fuck I forget. What was it before stampede? Oh do this after we did the commercial. Okay yeah out how case so. We went to the commercial day fourteen. Our commercial day we go back or cord the podcast and then I came and met you guys out because my adderall was still kicking and ah go on all night and I ended up just fucking on a now on over up in that top room Matt Harvey Ten Thousand Dollars or hotel room and and this thing was like a mansion. Hotel is not an iphone rooms. fucking he did seek away. I was like fucking busy man. That guy's change doesn't say by when he leaves. I talk to the next day. I'm like what happened here Bro. You're like I was top cheese with that one. I was like nice play real. Nice the top corner I you know. I know how to pick the coroner's boys corners in space obese. Still out there snapping around any men's League Whitman. I've I shot the blades on once last year. I told my boys from my hometown that once I was done I would play We have a tournament marks. They put together and I said I. Would you know playoff for my first year and out there and I was fucking terrible. I mean I'm how long have your than my playing days which didn't help. I was never the best skater but it was. It was ugly. It wasn't it wasn't pretty it was It was kind of embarrassing to be honest with you. You still shopping around no dude. I can't even skate the guy when we filmed the commercial at the end of the day you swear to God you played the NHL Joking. I've sold bad at hockey. People would never believe I made millions new an I was. I was actually a stunt up on the commercial but nobody knows that was the shooter tutor. Jeff anything else you wanted to talk about before we let you go you boys ever GonNa come here. I know it's getting colder out east. I know you're Golfer. Come the Big Canyon maybe come hang out with the West video this. We're GONNA do a video where we play down. It's too I love that podcast. More time for the listens yeah. It's with the athletic. It's called breakaway Me and my Buddy Josh Trooper. WHO's a writer with the athletic twice? A week we break down the kings and ducks which is the ducks are playing? Well the Kings Not so much. But we're trying to make enjoyable and fun for the fans and just living the he lives as well and We've only got about four or five but it's enjoyable and yes point break away with the athletic appreciate Southern Cal hockey fans make sure to check it out. They get a little more indepth than we do for. Sure I'll give you back to Collins Biz. Love Boys we'll see ya all right buddy. I'm back I say Mario coming in Mareo. BIOS Mario's outside now. That's all we got. Sorry guys sorry. Argonne are a tweet it out. Incredible surprise guests on spitting chickens tomorrow and then and then the people underneath wrote it. Better be shitty Cindy so I although although you had very good deaths. I think they're going to be a little bit. Let down apparently anyone with you. Yeah we're doing There's a they do a podcast and here. It's called Dr Hockey and So team who is is in here and I'm like off team La. I'M GONNA sit in for this one so I jump I throw on throw on the headset OBI's in the In the engineer so I can see him right and They're having like long all. These talks about like injuries injuries. And all this kind of medical things and OBI says Read Obese question all this series Shit and OBI says I asked him if he misses warming up without about the bucket yeah. I don't know that it's not little off brand for the doctor. Hockey podcast cast but So it was the best nobody. Nobody was the best. I'm assuming Yeah so I hope I did all right I I was excited. I didn't know if it was gonNA come through so I spoke to Grenell. I didn't want to say today in case You know who knows. TV question for area if you could pick one of their goalies right now and you had to go within the rest of the season. which goal would you pick Barlow Mazda? Playing great in Bryce is has been chicken as as well. The numbers are pretty similar. Yeah I mean I guess you know I guess You know in the big spot grace's obviously he's great. I think he's content ten and the number to roll. I do think he's fine playing coming in. Maybe not taking the pressure up being the number one so yeah I guess it would be. I guess in the big game it would it would be volume off right. That would be my guess. But I don't know but I either way it's a good problem to have because you know you need so you need to go goalies right. I mean there was there was some stat that You team has never won the Stanley Cup and seems never won. The Stanley Cup with a with a goalie played more than fifty games in the regular season. Maybe in recent memory or think it was a little bit more common back. Then we're gonNA always play more. I think over right where arrest is important totally so yeah I mean I think I think it's a great system and then You know apparently they got this guy. I in Russia who who is this goalie in Russia. That doesn't WANNA come over. But the islanders have his rights Seventy no that guy much. I mean we're not Algebra hockey in their ball Sorkin or something like that working. Yes sorkin is So you may see him around next year but you know too. Many goalies is a problem so exciting time for our fans and you know. I'm keeping close to the chest and I. I WANNA get too excited and they're gonNA happen. You know injuries happen. And it's a long season and We'll see but we're excited so I'm the movie guy here at Chick. Let's and longtime movie Guy Apostol if I want shift over to that kind of like we do with that plays we kind of go over their career a little bit. I wanted to pick your brain a little bit Yacht Korea you nominated for a Golden Globe back and oh nine nine with some pretty heady company Alec Baldwin. David do Coveney Tony. Shalhoub and the Kings Steve Carell does that. Go on your career. Mount Rushmore get nominated for Globe with those guys. Yeah yeah that was that was for me. The highlight of my career. And and and you know at that point I I thought I still had an answering machine and honestly I didn't even no the the nominations were coming out and I had been out the night before and I was like since such a dead sleep and you know that you know on the on the east on the West Coast. It's it's like five o'clock in the morning. They announced that. So I mean a dead sleep and all of a sudden. I hear like screaming girls on my answering machine and I thought that they were like like girls at the front door I was like I'm GonNa fucking kill whoever this is and I like pick up the phone. I thought it was somebody at the front door was like what you hear yelling and screaming and it was my public hypothesised cooling. Tell me that I got nominated so yeah that was That was one of the you know for sure that the highlight of my My career Whatever not to bring it on a down note but my mother was very sick and she passed away like a couple of weeks after the Golden Globes but I was able to take her as my date so it was? Yeah Yeah Yeah it was. It was a special special A special time and something. I'll never forget so your first movie of course was rocky five. I mean first off one of the great movie legacies of all time you apart. But how did that transpire inspire. Was it a typical go out. Audition got the GIG. Was it something a little different than that. How that plays out? I had a natural mullet just like I the more going regardless regardless the mullet going regardless but Yeah you know it's like and obviously you know. Listen people ask me what my favorite boxing movie is and I would say rocky. I mean aside from the obvious rocky. Four is is the best boxing movie of all time. So you know yeah Pompton I know yeah I know it. Didn't it didn't go over. Well it was sort of a what kind of a weird sort of approach but Yeah it was nice to nice to be a part of it and Yeah man that was that was nineteen eighty nine. So what was that longtime longtime ago. I Don I don't care to do that on that. Four thirty S guy. Yeah that was thirty years ago. Yeah even dine him to what your companies what you've started what you're you're trying to bring it We you mean at the studio here. Action Park Media. Yeah like like. Can you go in depth a little bit more about it. Yeah no look. Here's what it is. We're we're trying to. I'm trying to build a platform like There's a media platform and its content. Eventually we want to move into TV shows and You know the content now the business has changed so much certainly since the days of Rocky like you five and and even entourage you know so a lot changing. Yeah so we're kind of just build the brand you know have a bunch of content move into original content and TV shows and that kind of stuff so we launched with a few podcasts and We've been having a blast you know. It's it's a lot of fun more more work than I would've anticipated but yeah it's so so far so good we've been Literally the doors have been opened for like three weeks or something ridiculous but Yeah it's been fun so far so we'll see just work hard hard every day you are you going to become a figure of it or or are you going to remain mostly behind the scenes. Yeah no I'm all the way behind the scenes you know. I don't like like people like people like do you have a podcast. I'm like no I mean I. I don't really have anything to say not not I mean. Certainly nobody wants to listen to me. Drone on about the islanders for a week after week after week So yeah yeah exactly so until something comes up but in the meantime I'm just kind of you know bringing things in them. I'm getting the true crime space. which is a big fan of and we're doing a little entertainment sports true crime where we're doing a little bit of everything well see? We're right in a year. You know cons real quick I just wanted to ask back to your career with entourage. You guys it seemed like the thing with entourage through a cool cameo every episode. Who is like the coolest person you think? Look working on that. Show that you've got to have on like I know you had Tom Brady Leagues. That would be my favorite yet. Ob who else. Yeah I mean we had you certain point. We had. We had everybody and certainly in the the entourage movie. We had that one scene where they were having the party To to watch the movie it was a we were shooting for three days on the trump golf course of all places out in you know Palo Alto wherever it is and There was like fifty cameos goes that day and it was Mike Tyson Brady Eshelman Dole wall. I mean it was so it was it was insane. How many people were there on that? The first day. Ten o'clock in the morning on day one. I broke my leg like doing something stupid. I mean it was awful. It was awful and I knew I messed up. I was showing off a little bit. Russell Wilson was playing quarterback so everybody was like trying to channel their inner. You know so i. I went apart for for passing. fucking stop my collegue I broke my leg in three places but I embarrassed I like I worked for four days I drank and like eight weird pills to just I was outside so I'd sunglasses on but I I know I needed to get through the days but you know it's funny all the guys that were there and they all these cameos and they he put me in like a guest house like a million miles away and I was like my leg was flat just fucking twisted and The only guys I'm thinking like it's that's so funny about sports. The only guys that came to check on me when it was all said and done who do you think Gronkowski Ataman Almond Dole. Tom Brady you know I'm a Dolphin Fan. You know and here come here come the four patriots go literally a hundred yards out of all the way into a house up a flight of stairs down a hallway into a back room to come check on me so you know sports is sports but like you know for that. Let's I'll I'll always be truly nettle men GRONK and those guys took place in my heart. Hey a lot of people are going to be happy about that because I was going to give stories and other reason to like those guys I know. That's I'm sitting there. It's like you know there's a world where you WanNa root against the Patriots. Like how could you you know they. They literally no one told them to do it. They just went and did it was like instinctual for them so I love him. I hope you went back and had them all sign. You cast afterwards fucking. I'd the cash thing I've how'd you. How'd you become a dolphin? I think my brother hates my dated my dad I mean. My Dad passed away but my dad was a big jet send and and we were Dolphin. Fans I mean me and my brother had bunk beds and there was dolphin. You know stuff all over the room so I just didn't inherited the dolphins and every year on the first stay the season I call my brother and my part to fuck. How bad was he? How bad can you then you now? But yeah so we'll see we'll see million. It is the only guy that ever had a postage Dan Marino and Mike Bossey in his bedroom. My favorite thing is people are always like like. How can you be an owner fan any Yankee Fan? That's not how it goes. What do you mean? It's not how it goes to know but I I actually. I doesn't go like doubt but I always thought that the islanders Jackson mets and then Rangers Yankees giants for the most. I don't know why that I don't know who made that up. But yeah that's not the case Not For me anyway but Collins last question would you be down for for. Maybe we can squeeze you guys in a sandbag rotational. Where Biz Nasty? Takes Him in here right now Leo. Let's bring Leo and gave them team. Oh tell team oh to stop talking and get him over here. Let's you know we we. Yeah Leo's not a golf guy not a big golf guy still. I'm trying to get the boys into golf because you know. How long can you hit the clubs right the nightclubs but they tell them that? Yeah it really tell it will be the stand-in Leo or Eskimo Komo Brunner's WanNa fucking back. What are you ready for a name or or one tailored podcast e wouldn't say it on the PUCK and we'll textile home plus won't talk about WHO's Lovie lovie? I'm like I'm like you know I'm GonNa put you jump on the phone with the guys. Like Nah I can't follow T- mu. He grabs the phone a half hour. The guy's gone he's walking down Robertson. He's you're the Mike. He's a star he just needs to realize it. Yeah we're we're GONNA do a little hersal we're GONNA have a little rehearsal well one more podcast and then and then GonNa work out some kings for his podcast call. How about this? We do act off me. You and Leo Three Act off for for some content. He always. He's an acting can't dodge that one. Yeah I don't think he's GonNa do it I don't think he's GonNa he's not he's not a not a podcast guy. I don't yeah. Of course. Yeah he's my is my brother. He's a he's a good dude he's he's a private do but he's he's a great guy. For the record. It would be underspin chickasaw youtube channel. Not Not on the podcast right so that might just shoot that episode of the question deliver deliver it properly. I I saw all right guys. Hey we're friends we're friends again. We're boys in the hatchet is buried. If there ever was one I love it. Love it all right so you guys take a huge. Thanks next allowed Buddy Kevin Kearney. I'm glad we were able to bury the hatchet. He blocked me on twenty years ago. It was some silliness in It's pretty funny. that he brought that up we had a we had a laugh about it and also I mean me brings on teen who fucking Salani out of the blow a ship. My pants man. I mean I wasn't expecting that. And then our buddy. Ob comes on. He's a fucking Cactus at interview When when pretty pretty not off the rails definitely on the rails good Shit Biz was awesome? I'm questioning Connolly's islanders knowledge. We didn't we gotta tell them how to save bars. L think he was saying I think maybe it saying it wrong. Or maybe we're the ones saying an and I'm and I asked him the question because I know I know that there's obviously not a riff but just barstow wants to let it fly. And he carly made it sound like he's going to put up eighty five point the answer. He did his first year while I mean he's under a point a game so far this year. There's no signs that he's just going to all of a sudden like based on on how much offense and risks and take pop off so don't you see that as being an issue moving forward where if if they do in fact try to low ball bars and it'd be like no fuck you because he's not getting a play what he wants to how he wants to play in order to get the points he wants to get because he can. He's proved that he did it his rookie year and we know Trots is a far armour defensive-minded coach than Dugway was. I mean. There's the evidence. Is there some fortunately a peace force and everyone to play a little bit just an interesting topic because like he's their star moving forward. I'd imagine that maybe I'm just. I'm not trying to create drama but like knowing Liu like he wants probably a bit of a team friendly deal right eight and I don't know if bars he's GonNa WanNa give it to. I don't think he should do. Time will tell boys there was an interesting video that Boscell astle Chicago tweeted out going pack the Halloween Khalil. Mack Chicago bish defensive superstar. You know there's a nice neighborhood. I guess he doesn't celebrate Halloween. Take Pot and Halloween. So he didn't celebrate Halloween instead of having people come knock on his door ring his belly. High a God to stand there and tell people that basically he's not doing Halloween Loui N- and some guy recorded like made a big. I thought it was a big fucking wind. Beg Hullabaloo about it. He's He's record the guy who goes so. He doesn't want to give candies I. I don't don't think you should live in this neighborhood. Buddy go fuck yourself the dude like he lives in a nice neighborhood like fucking he doesn't want to give the WHO cares like I just thought fuck in the guys like a wind bag like fucking point out that he didn't want the guys are wind bag but I mean if you're gonNA hire a security guard I wouldn't you just give the Guy Candy. Andy Hi give out. I think honestly I read some. He might it might be a religious thing with him. I think he's a pretty religious guy and some religious folks on down with Halloween. It could be as simple as that. I mean I was like what about the kids. It's like buddy. He let a mansion neighborhood. The kids are GONNA be fine if they get one fuel fucking torch this year. Yeah I might take would would have been like wet so I think there's a guy there if it's a religious thing then then obviously heap. I mean maybe it sucks that he would have to maybe released a statement now now just because of the quote unquote backlash. The guy recorded the video. Fuck off but I don't care that much if he doesn't WanNa Fuck and give out candy I don't care do do I think it could turn into bad. Pr that you hired a security guard. It's help people to basically fuck off. We don't got candy. Yeah I mean well. If they don't then you're GonNa have people bowl trying to ring a bell all night. I I mean from a pragmatic point of view. I get it like right but we saying that is like if you just don't want to deal with anything just fucking put some candy bars out with the guy simple simple thick ought saying he has to but it's just like to go to the link to hire security guard. If you can't be far enough to be like give Tom Hanan fucking a bunch of candy so you can give away. People would understand the privacy aspect of it. Yeah I don't know it's so funny to think of this legal policy making the video and it's ridiculous kids like dad it's fine just go to the next I was I just I agree with all that. It's ridiculous it's so stupid I wouldn't complain about it but there's fucking like you have to factor in your Khalil Mack lack. You're a big name. If you hire security guards shoot people way it may become something. Yeah no that that's true and it's unfortunate because like I don't know I'm I don't they. Don't give a fuck about Halloween. I don't give Halloween candy away either. So maybe that's why I'm sympathizer wouldn't sock to. The bears are horrible horrible. Imagine being a bears bears fan. They they had that their quarterback there and they could have had deshaun Watson or Who's external mahomes Hasaan? Both those guys for their quarterback order back. Who just doesn't seem to have it? That's terrible fucking general managing right there but it's so crazy that there's like twelve people in the world that can play quarterback back in the NFL. How many seven billion there's twelve I I've I've launched it? I think it's because of incompetence in NFL front offices but some of them knows way more multiple. The Me said it's actually because the quarterback in college play The play zone defense in Manso it's so much of an adjustment I still think it's a Lotta Shit had front offices in the NFL look bad teams. It's just I think ballot check lake. Does everything right Motif should be what he does. Because there's just bad bad bad management management out there but I just think I think it's easier to develop and be better on the defensive side of the ball that day. Just chew up so many quarterbacks where in order to be successful the NFL. You have to have it most of the time you have to have it physically right because there's not many small I'd say Russell Wilson's one of the very small successful successful small quarterbacks but he's also probably one of the most mobile he moves. But just think of how much you have to know. And that's why Tom Brady says he doesn't doesn't want to retire is because he's like I've seen every scheme. If I'm out here in a fucking Walker I could probably be more successful than somebody's guys coming in leak just based based on his brain and his knowledge of when he looks at the defense needs like at where. I'm going to expose it right now. Who Do these guys can't think affects the sick? It's fucking Diaz these. These guys were six six running for four seconds sixties. Is that how long they run between deny sixty yard sprint receivers of the below that. This is what I'm saying. It's it's so fast guys coming at you with their your hand so I would I pay to see me take a snap. I always say hey. I'd love to Sierra ticket. NFL snapping operatin defense. The guy might as well just put me in a coffin. That's what I'm saying is people don't realize and who was complimenting. I know we're kind of talking about football now Khalil Mack I think it was who was complimenting Carson Wentz and how she's Andy and how he's he's he's like intense where he stays as the pocket he'll take us knows it's coming and he credited him on being tough like that a lot of guys they'll just like squirm away like take the loss or or won't hold that that Split Second Find the whole that's open made the play and then take a carson. Wentz is always hurt though right. That's true I I boys and other story I sent us a couple of days. AGO is in the athletes by the right Katie Strang. She's a great writer. She store that basically two two long. Didn't read Coke Kokin Molly uses on the rise among any joe players based on her talking plays. GM's manages whatever. What was your take on this story? Do you agree Oughta went down since we left the leak Biz. We would. It's going up the hell all guys I read it I read it was it was it was it was an interesting read. What were my thoughts on it I think that drugs have always been a part of every of every major sports league and I think that nowadays. Maybe it's making being more noise because of stories like this and and guys being younger I I really don't know but forever there's been cocaine use in the NHL. HR imagine the medicine in the seventies and the eighties playing Broadway in New York City. So I I don't think that it's like an enormous issue in the league like some some parts of the article made. It seem like it was such a huge problem. That people are really worried about it. The products incredible on the ice. And the only thing that the The only thing that I that I take away reading that is like I don't know if people think that because guys are pro athletes I'm not saying honky players any league they think because they're pro athletes they don't deal with the same type stuff that other nineteen twenty to twenty five year. Old People like deal deal within life because hockey's no different. Yeah your profession is on the ice and you're in the public eye and your this amazingly skilled athlete. But I mean how many younger kids go out and have a good time with a bunch of days off their buddies back home or doing blower pop and molly and they're like all right. I'll I'll do use some I. I just think that if if you would ever think that people don't struggle with the entire act of growing up and becoming an adult like just because they're pro athletes and you're wrong because a lot of times it can be even worse off and I'm not saying that It isn't easy because how much money people make sometimes making that much money and being that popular and going out and having everyone kissed you know the floor that you walk on and rub your belly and scratch your back. It's almost it's harder to get away from certain things so I mean I don't I don't think it's a huge issue in the league. I think some guys like to have a good time but I I don't I don't really look get it like. Oh my God. There's this we need to be panic. I don't know I I wouldn't condone anyone doing it if they wanna do it do it. A- As far as it being a problem like everything in moderation. If you if it's been six week training camps over you guys have had a tough schedule all of a sudden. It's maybe rookie party. Boys WanNA fucking split a bag. I I don't know who the fuck am I to judge now. Sometimes I want to go there because I wanted to forget about shit and just have a good time and now a little dark. I mean it's not for everyone and I understand. People are going to judge the fact that maybe I've done that in my life but I just really don't give a fuck I had all. Would you not say that. It's probably like better than having thirty beers. Doing some bumps of coke. Yeah maybe that's way off base. I don't know Oh to play like three nights later. Yeah everything like visit. Everything moderation and I'm obviously the all. The guy was kind of around when you know cocaine before it was known. There's a harmful thing I remember. Time magazine had a Martini. Glass full of cocaine was like and the headline was like is this dangerous like people potty so much in the seventies and eighties and then you you know what Len bias died that was a real shift and then people started realizing okay. If you abuse the ship it can be bad play when I think what happened was it didn't really go away. The it may be decreased decreased coke usage in a went underground instead of like people in a buyer in the late seventies. Doing coke off the bye. They're going into the bathroom stall to do it now. I think it became a bit of a stigma but but then it's slowly kinda crept back. I think the people you know all the people would have died off of went away and then the younger crowd discovered it. I think not that it's gotten popular. I just went away in the whole society. -ociety I mean I see it. You know people don't it's still around. It just disappeared for a little while candidate hid for a while. Now people on on his quiet about it. I said if the players players getting a bag every week and doing it on the big time. That's an issue. I cannot picture that. There's that many guys in the NHL. Wow that are ripping through coke every yeah. It's like fuck if you're going to do like I mean maybe this sounds horrible. Oh what a guy like four times throughout the year like with a couple of days off that bad to say a hell of a season and you're the GM will you do. I mean I I know this. Is this going to have a hard time. Finding guys play for your team just doesn't sound ideal but it's this is the world we live in people are out there doing shit like this. It's just it's hard for me to imagine that there are people around the league panicking. That like this is becoming an issue. I mean is the product suffering. You know how hockey right now these kids and I just don't want I just don't want it to get lost in translation that we don't care about these guys health right but but that's all I'm saying is listen. We're this is a very competent conversation. If somebody wants to do something they're gonNA fucking do. It is using thing if they want to go out and have a few times over the course of the season and they want implement some technology can put right up about whole and I. I know we have a lot of younger listeners. I know sometimes we forget that and I'm not saying I know it sounds like this makes me sound basis covering all bases in you know. We're not saying oh all go out and do this stop. We're saying is you're you're an adult if you're of age to take things you know you can have fun with certain things and not be of become fucking junk box. I mean you get old. People like the party like to unwind in different ways Ra Yeah I'm living in this one life. I'm going to test all waters. Yeah I don't give a shit how you feel about it so anyone listening and wants to get sensitive through it. Yeah I've done law. I've done maud done it all WanNa ride the wave. Let's go I think to If if we're talking to younger kids ain't GonNa help ya so that's out there. This will not say if you're if you're sixteen years old playing junior looking to blow that ain't the path Barreau Maybe if maybe if you get eighty five points one year in the NHL and you WanNa have a party. One summer summer night or six days off go ahead but don't think that getting into anything like molly and coke is GonNa be like what makes your career all of a sudden take-off yeah and make sure weekends takeoff share the effect as take your choice or kill count takeoff and your trips to the doctors take off a two hundred eighty takeoff and there's a lot of taking off what else takes off Biz. Uda Gem fuck take off. How about that if you are getting a little bit and you tide of that awful feeling after drinking D. H. detox is basically a vitamin for people? That drinks Giralda drinking buddy while business. 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Episode 44: AFL Round Eleven 2019 Review

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Episode 44: AFL Round Eleven 2019 Review

"Exciting now. True magic words at everybody loves to yell AL's site with me. What maggots? Sean experiments, again, have was as you wait, Jamie Wallace. It was good. Christopher how was your weekend night. It was fantastic with method seconds to go. Tell you what way the soldered the mobile football club again. Arabe nine himselves, the czar not to coal, Sal selves, the demons anymore because. Damon's afi. After the weekends if it's we've decided to call L selves, the Normans. The Melbourne Newman's in celebration of probably the world's greatest Charca Greg Norman. Just suits us a little better. How how actually we should start the show. But yeah. Our we want we might we'll get to that. But yeah, it just welcome everybody. Again, ran the Livin is in the books, we would normally say once again, he with your host, Christophi, the pip three hundred seventy plus guy Ligier, these killed football club and the host with the most the dog, Jamie walls, where he celebrating full lace out the greatest in the world. You now on our. That's listen, if you wait. Plenty. Would say wakes a long time in football. It's been a few days of being alone. Twenty orcas bay news lift wrought and Santa, one of those things has been melons nother choke on the weekend. But we've lost another couch. You purchased hiking is the honeymoon period. Kicking score review is stuffed up again. Jonah really, who gives a shit the j w. Run kit's about China. Well, why be from a political standpoint, but not from sporty standpoint, the GW is-? The sleep is that just teasing again in last, but not least I think the Brisbane lines welcome to the jungle five goals down. What a win. Where do you wanna stop fellow? Okay, where do we want to look, you're not how to chat on Saturday nod, and you would duty dirty you a sad? You're frustrated. Let's start with Melvin. Okay. Where do you wanna go because I'll put it this way. I was at home with the family watching the guy dad mom, brother sister-in-law, rove Maya watching the guy with passionate Melvin supporters way new. Five minutes into that loss quarter what the result was going to be. We knew it. I can't I. I agree at halftime off thinking I reporting on a school he and they're actually doing the why that Marlboro was previously is first quarter really goes second quarter couple of goals go, they go school is basically for thirty minutes. And then you might get a fourth quarter revival at the games done. I went to bed at halftime thinking unattended halftime stopped watching halftime team gyns done. And then I flicked back I've probably maybe three minutes, five minutes into the last quarter, and a soul that adulated kicked a couple of quickies and thought. And I thought. Nari nari. Am I I went to you pits? I'll go. About nights helping nights this all went to you when that role started other week del fishy, we kid bungle lighten net loss, quota. We had non-scoring Schultz didn't have any head, but being the Adelaide crows ahead. Go ahead. I I it's your in shots twelve sorry. Seven scored seven scoring Schultz tomorrow. I wonderful knowing. That doesn't say much. But when you keep one goal eight in the last quarter and many, many gettable 's once points on appalling on, we knew exactly what was gonna happen. Joy faced two thousand nine hundred continued it's a second on three weeks. I did it against west coast. If you exhilarate didn't strike costume tap into game. Yeah, it's, it's a time of season, they play good football at themselves, Dan, when I looked sells dental at us, Dan, while and I'd be very that, that, that, that loss would burn more than the west coast one. I reckon, the problem is pips is how many times can salmon Goodwin side. We're gonna learn from this loss. We're gonna learn from it is. That's how I can still think it's four or five times as it had the same sort of loss. Now, we're learning we're learning to react any had to cope with these losses. Geez. It's tough. It's tough. It was. It was interesting. When you have a bit of a look at it, and I was listening to on the Catholic Rusi laws news saying that, yes. Not bad going after goal off the goal off the goal practice off the practice off the practice having twenty shells ago goal because that's that's reputation what it needs to bay now is because I thought that would have been issue is in goal kicking off, but they might be goalkicking but maybe not under jurists. So doing a four hundred eighty spring going back and having thirty seconds for short Oregon. That's where it is now. Yeah, look, I get what you're saying. But if you look back in the eighties and anonymous with the real. The lost of a good goal. Kickers yen. But I just kicked goals after goes, let's just trying to go in the Christian enduring the eighties and the nineties, Dunstall Lockett. Mudra. Loyd. You actually see them out of the Ford, fifty nine now, of course, not because they didn't have to the that was the guy had a bad found that a bad thing. I think that why if I were tamed Pokka full forward in a fifty that stuff's up the defensive structures as we know it, it's all about defensive structure many Capriccio. It's not a bad kicking winning score anymore. It's actually stopping the other team from scoring which had gone. Let's talk about going. That's where do you wanna staff? Well, I'm gonna talk about I'm not gonna talk about the ninety nine percent of the other stuff, they'd be by sufi dominated junior Rochman, I'm gonna talk about another goal. Another two-day to really seal it for the tame, insure that ladyship begging again, I wouldn't I wouldn't marvette through match. Look, he's not go Kika these not now he was fifty s when he's had a ping, be more worried about Tim Smith worry about Gullit's drop MAC which was virtually on the goal on that was sealed. That would put a six goals up. Wait a minute. Definitely. Illiterate, thirty would have had that he's one of bits shots. So just depress you got through. You had Hobbs swan as well to keep one goal light in that lot one kgo eight in that last quarter. Equivocate through to. All right. So coming out of that in the price mortem, what's, what's happening down. Auburn land. This is what's gonna happen. Go it. And but calling with this because there's no pressure on them. Labour will be back night will be back. Christian silent will be back, so he got three eighty based seeks Backman coming calling guy, I gotta have a why stop us now the Baines is out for weeks because if he's able to win these Ellen win this because there's no pressure on. That's how Melba play night pressure. They'll run to the phone and spoke to games. I'm calling now Melba will miss the falls through games. European I reckon. Just record this this'll be this thing. If this way show, Melbourne will miss the falls by only two games. You watch. Two games. His two games is a chasm these days. Football miss Lott. We've missed the last three years on less than a guy hafa game. You're with three with three wins and losses at the moment. So I'm saying that out of the last living, guys we should wing or recommend up with ten wins win seven out of the last living. That's how comfortable I am a win. Seven of us live in two games out. Pressure on which sheets me and the worst thing that I could do go towards into the and sit there and go, you know what we didn't perform to barely like the hollowness that isn't showed it in the Las g. Can't happen cannot happen. And if I do say, we everything that I get these these where they have to make the hot coals. Jones is virtually virtually gone. Yeah. Lewis has have have to be gone as well too. And then they're going to have to make some make some Kohl's a college. I never thought Thomas Donald Wadey applying. Yeah. The height for full McDonald's. Also mcdonald's. I'm so sorry, more Oscar McDonald's. But did you see the way the Jenkins, it was almost like when you get on those mechanical bulls? Gygi took him to the fall on keep. That was just like he's not a key Backman. Yep. Eric he'll be tried by next. You'll be tried by. Well what about other applies at, like, I don't know it like a Christian Petroca could that be tried by coup? But he was he actually played a role of the weekend thought he was really good to be honest, you have a look at what he was doing rather grand. He he keeps it every week. Okay. Token management, I wanna move on different subjects in my he comes from. But he's far from worst Fafa mine, but just even having something like, wait a minute came in. He wasn't supposed to play. He came into the last month because Christmas Island. Yep. There's plenty of plenty of people that they'll be able to get rid of unite people up. Maybe. Thought about it side of the years, such as Neo Bullen mob, be one that won't be going. The wagons. Mopping other one to go. Wasps. Because crazy site in the moment Diane fell is Goodwin. Saif saif. Oh well for the for the listeners at the you can't say these, Johnny has a Chinese flag in the back of ease. Web view at the moment. This is representing the port. Adelaide Charta extravaganza slash junkets, which will get onto grave. Kinda go that got him to a preliminary fallen a loss g and the course he size is different off. The question to ask a question he Saif. I think that we just need to get some better assistance or any. It's the same it's a group that took us to a premium lachey. Yeah. Not Saif, which is not Cy gone pips, which coach is gone this week. Well, heavy teams lift these icing teams in the toll Zely sixteen coaches lift our recognize another full coaches that will not be safe by the end of the year. Now let's talk about. Fuji's heavy put this personally, personally. What go Ricky's go to be despond kabaddi, but he completely China when you first entered to hurry, exited the charging just completely screwed with you. When you've only had four wings out of the law. Fourteen on fifty times you do have to do have to make change that Sinai. Getting rid of Bolton and keeping virtually everybody else at that club from a bold level recruiting live league Citra on almost side. He's a bit of a scapegoat for some past issues that have occurred because you have look at the loss full coaches, they lost four coaches Retton and they got rid of him after to the falls, which was shoot yet wind Britain as well. And they had two of the best senior coaches of virtually old Hong into GMs of Denis pagan, and make multiples, and they couldn't do anything these club. Britain in Bolton. Yes, he was the figurehead. He was the, you might the Chinese Chitra Stevenson, Viney, was the one who recruited this least. A really good really good twain, when you see it's and you look at it and there's a lot of sheet on Twitter. Let's be Frank, but you get one tweet and you look at it and guy that's gorgeous. Remember the gentleman's name didn't really matter. But he said, so Vanni has brought these ingredients list together. He should be should actually be the one who has to try and make a meal out of it and cook with it at awful. That was perfect. He should be the one who coaches because he's put this list in place, which bolt could only do is based with they've got rid of him. But the prison Stein on sauces, dying on the recruiting staff, a staying on virtually staying on DEA think that's like using the word Fe two weeks ago. I said he was going to stay to light of the him. If I support on hours. Where'd you say? Well, look a couple of points. I wanna Mike on this that press conference yesterday was the most awkward thing. I think anybody could go through liberty by Chris, would you ever sit next to a boss that explains for everyone wanted to defy you in how the decide to fire and as the the lead up to the point that are gonna fi end? Then you have to Chris as they have the fight employees. Give Cowden spiel of a press conference that that was that was a weed. One of that was really strange. Audience, the hall press conference with us to Mito was work at that particular Tom. But it did have a bit of a look after woods did find that constrain as supporting a club that's maybe once or twice in its last ten years sack, the coach say many conferences, where coaches of bailing out. I think the one I with Dane, Bailey was the based what ideas was the club. The club went out and did this statement Dame valley came out, and did he statement and they supported each other if and it was the best one, I'm saying because they both gave almost a Pat on the back to a Gela, but they knew that just wasn't tenable any longer. To sit there and have a guy virtually smack your ass in front of the entire meteor, fell lanes. It just goes to show the way that clubs wrong. Yeah. You can point on going on uncowed if I can go for. The people who think that Britain is. Ev going to return to that club, you a frigging delusional, he was fired by these people who are still working there. What would you ever go back to a situation where they'll let you go, when you had I win loss record that was in the fifties taking him to the phones as you've said, pips, what would ever drive you to go back into that toxic club with that toxic level of bowed and support, would you? We'll he was if he was there for six years. He took over as a K taika think over from when Britain two thousand seven correct hundred twenty games finished with sixty rings had a percentage of fifty point. Full ladder positions fifteen sixteen in six hundred is I for us eleventh. He then took him to seventh fifth and just Mr. in the. He's loss g which was tenth, and I sect. The point I wanna make it back out and pips if I can enough he's. At point they've come out yesterday after second the coached, which they got behind and get the big thing to ago saying we have fully behind human the plan. They've come in and said with sector coach, but we are still committed to this plane. But if you've set the coach and you stick him with the sign plane. You'll. My, your delusional that you'll delusional because it let let, let's face reality. He probably follow sick, maybe seven or nine games this as in just to avoid giving. Atalay the number one peak in the IMF owl draft. That is the greatest, isn't it? So Ed alight could potentially play phones. Yes, they're not going to get a great draft peak vice because of Kelton, solicit stoop guest, UP, and thinking that they were better than they would a going to Hanes, the other club pick number one, and I reckon the goal who's gonna beat number on these better than wall cotton picked up. At allied must be just laughing. Wake out every time that I lose, they might just sit there and go hair goodies we did have to be sheet and we still at number one. Adelaide could do if they were smart. I see a couple of adult kids to bed if they were clearly not split that number one draft pick up until a couple first Randers. Anti-cuban Jerry because the twenty one and teen much of a much to be honest. So what would you want? Would you rather type two parts of that? Cherry oil. The number one who's going to have all the pressure on him. Yep. Yep. Because number three number four point of my column thing they're not going to change the plane. Yet Boten didn't win enough games issue. How many games expecting him to win next for this brand new coach coming into the system ten games? Nobody's eating all look. If you're a coach taking these mobile, you would be sighing all want guaranteed for you contract. None of these year after year role. I've gone. We've yeah. Is who's decided that if other year on year on gonna get the Trump? And if I was David Teague, who's taken IVA. L wouldn't do it. Got another club. Unless unless you someone who's on sackable such as maybe a Ross lawn who's apparently had a meeting with tonight. What, what would you if you're a brain you coach, you are? You'll did name Wilkie, your walk into the Gallos yelling accountant, because what they've done at least is not that good odd thought that I'd be in a better position than with IRA now that you would have as well. Simple easy. I, maybe just provided the least I think there's a lot of clubs at the moment, who think they'd lists Asari much better than they are and showing showing on the lead of the that they not simple. This is a and problem. I got rid of Renton because I go this idea in their head that I were definitely apprenticeship contended, I get rid of him to get a premiership coaching that keeps selling to them members and, and this little devil on the shoulders of the board level, says that the that the list is why more closer to apprenticeships, then what the reality is of that list, an Kate, Mike and as Assyrians by that they think they way more advanced than they actually really are than eight someone in the name. And now he's never going to do it. Almost like a poll rooftop figure, and we get gone back to him as, as the coaching example, someone actually say. You guys have stopped like you guys. You guys now. On the probably one year into your ten year journey, you need to probably look at everything top to bottom, not just the police, but from the CEO down and then start nine eight tonight semes- changes. See because he's only been there for couple years. He was a thinki- started. China little started off. Oaten came aboard. You're deployed football against kinda when he played at Evan lots Keila it was based, absolute based, and hairy base to so he's been getting Samaya waxwork on the rig. He was he was he was losing. The fed is up top when he was applying low, but he was Brad Lloyd another, God all went to school with his well to absolute soup size only being the listen us as the. Now uh g job loss cheat. So he's only been there a small amount. It's the duty shy was the one who hide him. And as far as argon might be the one and the board is well, the board after Google look at themselves. One other thing moving on rubber soles rim rebels supposed to be as an adviser Bolton. Eating in that coaches with him how much influence visa have in chopping was he space diva was there to help Alton? That's coming up. There's leering wished what was his role in all of these. Yeah. Just. Yeah. Anyone I think what you said, I think is Ron Boden seemed like a NAS valley seems like a great bloke maybe just a better assistant coach. And that's absolutely fallen to be an assistant coach and run run a small team as opposed to the whole thing because he's currently walked right into a Richmond job. So I mean he's still Holly regarded at in the industry, having. If you hear it talked about story a little bit tonight. I on the back page before we started today, and it was pretty much walked up off on and say, listen, all coaching gives gives a one way trial to see what a line for wake loved him up getting into Houston role seasons rolling ended up being a couple of permissions. Yeah. That some people just might be coaches, and these days, any catches, just not about moving spin in the magnets, and is the management is so much involved with it. E every Donal. But good luck having a family. Get understand what Brad, Scott Chuck did enough detainees reject cetera. Yes. Where to next? If a couple of things we mentioned, what clubs are in trouble. We know that we know. Countless new couch out the ones that might need a new coach Fremantle Ross there until the end of twenty twenty. Now, if count enough Hema Plum job. Judy judy. If you got through previous history, what he did was killed. You go. Also have a look at your mob. Poor light time became Saif. We know that for certain defendants in Richardson, Cuba. He's not. He's got a couple of bigwigs coming up. Against. He's got the boys wait. So he's gonna win that one. But the way counter tonight, I play the sons in Goa coast, which the sons which of these is, and the heading into ram forty and they've got the lines. Yes, the we one of those two games where he's definitely going to be fearless. And John John Worsfold as well. Isn't it? Things are going down going well down. They re them. Yeah. Yeah. Did on the weekend. But that wasn't exactly guy that you'd wanna watch, you know, that's the guy that you'd want to show the people, you know, when I put when I torture people in those army canes. That's the guy that you show them to torture, the living crap out of Oregon at Calton this guy. Putrid would describe the quality of that game for the mental health. I do hyped it out and get some, some young players get a space to breathe and probably joy there for you again. Exactly. Right. They gonna have the week off. Well, this way, it plying, the play Brisbane and harm. Concer the winning it, but he's come in and show something we saw north. Let's move on north because we at Scotty pool the pull the pin, the wake earlier ratios, coming and once again, honeymoon period, put your house on it. There was a fifty grand on wolf winning on fraud. I and he's laughing all the way to the Bank because once again you coach is going to be a great result. And come in and smashed special on that fraud and on, while the Choon of thirty seven points. And yet. Sorry guy. I don't know if you watched it had a bit of a look at that. And I were that will alive. Luck arash. Yep. That was a. He's not getting rid of that nothing. It just goes to show Richmond. They, they don't travel. Well. At all. No. But I think it also says speaks volumes to win you play the players in their position. Magic can happen. Pips. But doesn't even have to be in the position. Just let imply don't overcomplicate it nothing to gain these days is why overcomplicated you, you, you pay your long just as long as I have only gripe planet amazing joined the superstar guy got. But you know you look at cameras. Aha, living tackles on the way, gin live in disposals eleven tackles. Where'd that come from? Doc miss with Zohar then teachers able, vintage ziebel Polack look free than he's being Cuttington just held them down. Benny brand had the bisque guy move. He's maybe last tool threes easily. It's easily. They just look like go go play forty. Goldstein's going Twenty-eight Goldie had twenty eight and a game. And he was enjoying himself. Yeah. It's been a long time, and you get assigned voice Tolman Toma game for a number of these get style. The Macy's gotta get style. That's just the way it works. But, you know. Apparently ratio just keep it simple. And guys guys, do these these, these rest is virtually up to you. Look what happened. That did go palms imports on the trees. I didn't add that week. I think what they did was that they watched what dial Thomas did the week before on the fraud. I not. That was the benchmark, we're not gonna do that. We'll have a couple of Palmer's a few poets get together as a group and just enjoy each other's company, and at one stage, the look at that school down is that logo on the raw is this is this north while that third corps accelerated. That's a quarter they've kicked the six right? Yes. Dr six strike kicked non in the second half knowing goals to signal. That's good kicking compared to three goals. I've once again points, the best pressure, you could have the school board pressure. Relevant. They're being relevant for longtime wolf on the hype. That's the start of something. But once again, the no matter how big kangaroo is I just can't get the net. Big enough to catch the big fish. So you want to the different coaches. The big fish got to be something that he's looks at do they decide to go. It's this time next week when we come back or us to have his chat about north and Hal. I went in the second week. The only issue with that, though is. Applying this week, which could be like coast at metric on. Yes, that's not easy. So it can be sitting down the honeymoon's already over two weeks for racial. Good Oni good on him. He's just he's pretty hand up on economic do what's in front of him. He's gone it and bathe them, it's great to see. Something popped up was well, let's chat about more Charkhi. We're not gonna go. Different topic Charkhi more about the oxygen and join the who gives a sheet junket, otherwise known as port Adelaide's venture into China is just the fourth year that you've done it now fourth year fourth year massive crowds getting bigger and bigger every year. Apparently, there were no one thousand four hundred twelve at with it. I actually think that was the number of empty seats that are sold at the guy. And what cracks me up? Even more is affected by this saying that the crowd would have been big, if the bus companies are taking a lot of the supporters to the correct stadium. A main heavy into China before. Will not voluntarily note. It's a weird place in terms of I reckon that the bus driver. This is my experience of China. You go anywhere in a bus, and you're tourist, you probably have to stop by some always define or a silk firm and run through the shop to absolute bullshit before they take you to the next place. That's what happened pips all I do this Melvin went to a giant place and then they're going to make their way under the gun. But yeah, now that wasn't good. But this this, this is a point that wanna Mike, no one would even Melbourne would turn up to this game. So what's the difference? Cashman cash. It's all about the cash, that's all of these the cash millions of dollars. Thank you, it of selling that time game, not that I think that members care, because members Don gonna get worse. Thank you. I'll applies done case. What would I? What would I? And in terms of the guy, I mean, that's, that's what port can do when they put it together on they're allowed the spice to do it killed. It just didn't look interested, but a couple of points. Also the photo of Jaren mostly time Jaren Jaren your yet. Post he's gotta yet before the guy that didn't know cared properly owed me run around the China field with that theme running around now. Mike appoint about that Scott. That's what happens when you play brutal team. Whether that's what potentially could happen. So, you know. Maybe maybe we should have baby on board on the back of jump is because we are you hit us. You're in trouble so that and then he broke his ankle, but I mean, the guy was seventy points in the end. Thank you. None of it. That's all I Cuba. There's just crowded. It's not a good day. Just folding cracks me up. About that guy was, so they sold their home dying. This goes to show him much. You've got the I f l and now clubs around your little finger. You'll poor light. They sold their home gyn. It technically was killed time games accurate. Yep. Yet as part of the deal port headlight of the ones who have the full pre pre game host guy mid game entertainment older, trimming. So that's never never have. Harrison prot song before the green was the lead to be because people are on that only happens to put gyns war was applied at Takahashi stadium on the white game. And then I found out when you sell the game you sell everything you get the money and that's it. You don't even get to the white shot at your home game. Lego socted slim sucked in round is in. It's I that was weird how all of the all the fanfare will fun table at the site him did. Now, did you got New York's guy did you know dental possible? You didn't worse than gamma told you because they're going to plan a castle. And I did have seen the castle, I have seen the grand before it is the she'd guy made of it from my aesthetics perspective. Only what's the guy from zooming because that's clear enough to see through the fog when I do the line Skype shot. You can't see you can see this oughta actually love to play the earth. Can be awesome. As to. But you know what? It'd be applying Gold Coast empty stadium. Yeah. It was empty. It was good. Why would you why she told him look on album, I say games up not Weiss, again trying to build a community up their territorial and I wanted on it for money reasons you get that wholeheartedly. And yeah, we don't play to Bailey up, which is okay, but war, would you got all white at Sean Tena was on a plying simple? Kengo peps. It's for the cash as cash and people like Saint cooter imported allied and those teams we don't get a chance to get the big corporate dollars like the Melvin teams do, so we have to finalise doing it. Since you can't put any tops on the light cavalry hills is tops retire. They're gonna come back for heritage brand heritage jump IRA. Teach you need to play with tops everywhere. That'd be awesome promising in the box. Stop a kale. Morton running away from. Jeeze. That'd be guys making up just thinking that. I. Brisbane law. At the point now that they just not surprising anymore. Because I said to you, they're gonna do this. I told you this. Do not hang on. Let me just. It's on. It's on. I told you pips. Going to be very hard to beat up there. I said this five weeks ago. And he didn't believe me. You didn't believe me while ago. I'll be I'll be Frank. O D Bolivia just didn't think that they've been able to do what they've done over the last couple of weeks. Two games on the road with four goals day on. And they've come back. They weren't for goals. Dan, halfway through the fog goals, Dan quotas on. Yep. I have got the what, what failure and Hodge done at that club. I have turned that place around that has been like I say, it's, it's welcome to the jungle Bibey. And the law had fun games all that want to be finding games as we've fly them in a couple of weeks up there, there's been looking forward to it. Because these shivering Victorians God, they're implying the hate and it's the second half of the game with hate really starts to sake into the body and boom, you've got no gonna pitcher tickets left. And here they come Thia just good team. What they call them saying outside of L side of a calling guy that was the biggest crowd that they've had at the Gabba for what a member of you. So that just that just shows that the Queensland market by love, we know. And even the Gulf Coast crowds, even though I haven't been getting the wings as much even they crowds starting to get a little bit more as well too. So that the Brisbane older coins lanes, Queensland groups, I, they do get behind successful progressing teams unlock it a lock it. Now and gets point nor false and Kilda Siberia shit and CD people's guide of the Sydney guys. But once CD turn crap, you watch a more full of, and even people turning up the WGN. So it's good to see these teams. Get traction. But what's the gain at the expense of the Melbourne clubs? Yeah. They've got some Harris Andrews down back. He's got it was lost home of Brazil Owens, Playa my. Almost rallying out sawed of. Dines ohka. Hape spec. Becca nearly three thousand exactly in Dan's but not in the last ten years like could have couple of this. You would you say huge, the next buddy, Franklin nine no, no. Not now. Buddy, buddy. Just buddies toll the gamma pot any second season. And then just done wicked ways as as now. Sign. He's just a love what you a love what these to buddy. Oh, yeah. Stop it. But yeah, he's having an argument with my brother because he was sign that, you know, all buddy doesn't tight, Mark. He doesn't take Pac. Max what, what would he need to you get the ball in his Hanes anyway, within sixty five meters? And if he gets on lifting the foot. Not joking back to the Senate because that's going through Tali. Is probably one of the best plies alive embassy. Nice right on, but he doesn't so often there's, there's a fluke. There's an ice. But when you do at Tom, and Tom again, year after year that serious talent that he's so you know. Good morning or good on him. But Yale Law who might be pushing forward into the either stood quote number games at home and they drew pretty good as well. Why can't I be the next Richmond next west of boobs, there's no reason why not someone has to win it? What kind of be them? I'm the farmers. That's good. I'm happy for that because it had a broad Rutten run the last sort of five years. Yeah. But that's all that I don't think there is a team that they starting to starting to really get some traction really starting to, to along awfully. And that's GWA's our base. I it for a long time. But big getting a good mix of the experience of the team that had quite a number of injuries quad longtemps. It's time to get him back on the park now wakes ride. I disappointed Melbourne, though went up there and dissipated. Back. I'm disembodied goal coast. Table at that is one team. They're going to corker Beguin's, if I bleed that lighting Adelaide this sitting themselves up, not just as top four, but talk to GW is get the play phone at which they will. Yep. Yep. I totally agree. I think that WS now got that perfect age, for file the averaging one hundred giants across the field, which means that had. Three four five seasons. Now together. Yeah. Was what else can you say about his team? I mean they've just got styles in every line. This skills across all the lines are probably unmatched in any of the team, just whether or not they've got that that grid that some of those old traditional clubs to have. That's the only thing holding them back is the Greek. Yep. Yeah. I'll just just think that from an eye from an age demographic. Seating, north at the moment. I acetone Osler it's just it's, it's really nice just to sort of see clubs. Tiger. You want clubs to succeed and really do want these club. I would say GW is win it. Would because I have been a good team, but they're just being too young. On it'd be really for them to be able to, to see. Yeah. What are your now? I'm with you look at the fact that if GW as premature, I mean, you're probably more in the thing, I want to see them win one, I'm on a stool think this was hugely unfair to the team's particularly allied with nitro, they draft concessions into gold is took kids at should have probably gone to those teams that are still languishing now little bit moves. I winced bug about is so whether or not I would not I don't really kid because I still say this team is having a massive unfair advantage to. All over the top four or five teams at that time. Not fair enough. Totally. Yeah, I'm sure. I really do that. They're gonna get close. But from an age perspective like sitting sitting in really also, Jeremy Cameron these also a couple of weeks ago night. Plus go tell community scheme. He is just as a free and then you gotta him we'll bug then Taibbi, green. And then you license who's been less Beckmann who's now going down to the fold on. Yep. More having more avenues in the Melis. Yeah. They're good. You look look at team. Listen you like is not there's not a bad player in that time. And you know what kills me? I don't know if you'll the sign but what kills me more than anything is okay? Us. I can Eli the guy. Gotta get to refers round picks for many white. Papa again. Top heavy top it up just talk. But i'm. It's just a love. I do it just good on them. Good on him. Yeah. Yep. So we have to, I'm actually going to be doing this for I paint some of the fraud paint on. Oh. I want you to add a bit of this, because we're going to the foot early the she. And so I just want just want even want to think, you know, just a closer ause impeach themselves at a game. Seat in the crowd win talking to creative hundred or two hundred people that typical security game. But we're talking thousands of people who if worked hard all week, I've got my eyes closed at the moment on just, you know, I'm just sort of feeling his if worked toddle wake to make a living. Bringing getting shelter from the Rhine, and let's all the stuff. And they're at the guy. The all that frustration and everything that's being paint up inside of the bodies. In that two and a half hour. We know they're given the opportunity just to let it all outs. By signing through magic words that everybody loves to yell als site with me, what maggots why mega, we know we say, what I get with focusing on the employees. Well year could've smacked me over with a feather. When all I heard on the weekend that a Richmond cheese squad member has been banned for three weeks. Now, just wanna put these perspective. Gary Ablett put four I'm through three people's ED's and go one. He got three weeks fee yelling out. And I'll say is in a cheese scored at the end of the week had a hard week on the tools. He's got troubles at home. The kids are annoying him seems getting beaten, there's been another dodgy decision and he's yelled outs. You green maggots. And he's been suspended for three weeks that. More. Got anywhere now where political correctness has just not taking over the world. If you can't yell up, green maggots or green idiots or just idiot, or whatever, because you're talking to the empire, not the person selves. You were in the heat of the moment, you let it out. It's like a psycho is let the client of songs from get smart. The foot you can say what if you won't? But, you know, once you leave you gotta go back to the real world. Three weeks for that. If you if you had a set issues, one. Yeah. Tipping green mega would probably be the cleanest thing to come out of those schools just anywhere on the ground for your cleansing to hear around. I'm more a more ROY here decide that like, really? Demean. That's the thing that strikes me is who told his blogging if it was there, what by going forward, and you club come to Melbourne? We love yelling at you could even yell green maggots in a blue red and blue magazine you wanted to club. You could say can easily. Ken magnet, whatever might be. Come on. Can't we just frigging yell abuse and just know that there's no malice in it? It's just getting off. You just I, I agree. I'm not I'm with you pips. I think that it's probably the least offensive thing. You are ever going to hear knife, our time if you get through each for that, I'll get law for some of the stuff and all of yelled at. Idea. It's just it's in a control. Really? And that's the problem with, like just the problem with the I fell from that perspective. Like this is almost like a pot of the fraud game, so I- correctness ingrained, maggots new, which of these guys are the extreme weeks, you can get stuffed. But the I f l like really can I get tonight? Just stop boop, sheet nece. Like they the one the why people are not enjoying the game as much. He's boo. She'd on little bit. What myself can you believe can you believe that the reason they gave for the two missed school review? Fasces over the weekend was a technical issue. Yeah. I think the issue mortar bayonet, the whoever was checking what went wrong looked at the wrong footage. It's just morn. Boggling either go do three things spend the cash, you taught us. I fell stop. Worrying about. I f LX and I have feel I fell sweeten sale, sourcing China. Get rid of all those types of gyns, and invest money into a bunker like the NRL do and use that every single time. Or get rid of the whole thing altogether. Last, but not least say it's only for the ones that hits the post touched on the lawn that sees if the unpartisan call up from forty five made his out to bed through said, it's Bucci. And so just one of the Bush at the I feel keeps rolling out at week after week. They've got just going to skews for everything on Tuesday, pips on C N. The have. The empire. What's his name? Ri- ri- right rise, a ride that rise right to the heads. Do they still go with Norma were so baby. I came into it as, as riser was talking about a whole bunch of south, and also finally someone who is just talking the language people say that rise, which wanna say that him, but you know what? He's got a brilliant writer. Stay segment with, with, with Jared widely, and it just it just tells it how it is he's like, yeah, we met a mistake at happens. Sorry she'd happens. What why can't more people say that? Because what the bidding PayPal. You can't have a pie out on that. But also the one with wisdom BULLDOGS net game was over did make a difference. Did make a difference? It didn't make a difference. But from the west coast is big from the Fremantle perspective. But that was one kicking the whole game once again, we going dance that tell me that they wouldn't otherwise that, what Catamarca wall to get free. I'd be more worried about that. Not worried about the other goals. Exactly. So it doesn't it does look on our as I as, as a, as birth your ni- passionate supporters of attains when you team about western ago. You do analyze the little, you know, one percents hero. They are. We'll rob the but I mean if you're talking was any good that shouldn't have been that position. Anyway. Yeah. It was. Thank -cribe is Bill, Bill, you could on the day. Perfect example, is this have gone it and kicked? I one dollars in the last quarter. But I can tell you that if we had one of those, we couldn't blind it because we still keep in other seven. Yeah. And you can't it's, it's crap on it. You just to. What are the best quotes watching a little bit of UFC? And it's great when you watch like the ultimate fought. I'm one of the pipe piece of advice that Dina watts is to the falters. When I first getting ios gauze gonna give you one simple place of voice in these don't leave the result in the hands of the judges. Yep. Don't leave it to the to win the game for you. Do it yourself. So that's more for paying these wiggle thought it was pretty good. Green maggots hashtag greed mega rule. Get going back but yeah, fell stop shooting stiffer them all away. The books to me and his. I totally agree. Tell you what other thing lasting. That's a little bit of excuse. The language wake of bullshit. What is check their tipping comp and a certain form wonders three in front of the top of the lenna? Yeah. You want to say on the try on told you this. Yep. Yep. I'm a natural winner winner. If you'll so good at getting getting tips, even thought about becoming a Moyer. What's the Moya the Jewish go? Is that take the foreskin off? Oh. Oh, okay. You'll sitting on a beautiful, sixty four second place with sixty one. Justin credible fifty eight and then a massive one point behind on fifty seven Morton mates. The I it's very tight very tight competition, very time the most exclusive for the tipping comp on this podcast on site at is it is. Hey, I've got some questions or you got some questions. Okay. Let's built these thank you to all believers who do contribute the questions just to let you know next week. We're going live. You'll be able to say these gorgeous vases of the pips, and of joy dog live on Facebook on Facebook page next week. So you'll be interacting Rawda, why we're gonna be doing a live recording the first if a live recording of the lice podcast Sabih equations, as going law. We're gonna have how beats in places that we have to get through. But we're going to interact directly with you. So I can't white on Jamie's packing dockings of gut. The bedrooms, all set up. I the studios, way ready to go. I can't light. It's, it's more end up a lousy experience or as we might site. It could be the next man. I man, we are. I man, I sure it's off. So make sure you tell everyone. Yeah we'll we'll put a few enhancements up during the week, but make sure you get your, your mom's and sister's in your and. Wants to watch us. You know what even get the rigs tool? The we get enough enough law experts are, Jamie. Got some questions from the looseness his. We don't want from from. Lemon Josh having a loyal one of the a loss, Phil. I-it's I- loyalties, not our guys. Sorry from from from Josh ROY mantha. To not on, on the boys chat as a bit a hate going back and forth about about, Jerry Abbott. This is from him poboy has had an impeccable record his whole cre-, anyone remember Ryan Crowley just went up to him a native in the quad. Senna bans pogo, I'd probably put up with every trick in the book when he was the best player in the come for old, as years, I'd say, probably entitled to throw a few elbows out. Now. He's slowed down a bit. It a height, how everyone has jumped on his bandwagon, and you'll get turned into the next Adam goods this, right? Another superstar of the game getting cast Assad. Because some got this cable warriors his me off. Hal, can we celebrate? How about we celebrate how good he has Bain for fifteen years. This was drafted in two thousand one. So he's been around for a long time. It all lists. You sight, easy stop probably one of the best to play the game. It's just probably seen germ. We know that we know that. But on the other saw of the feigns. Chatting to somebody who knows GI blet during the week was trying to someone who knows someone who knows. And he reckons ball. He was up a goal coast. You wanna talk about toll poppy, he felt like he was the only point he'd have training, raging. He wouldn't try with everybody else. You walked around being Kindy and you know talking about being probably taught acid. True. Yeah. So that's off the field stuff. But. You know, it's just the whole Hanes up in the air big into free, Keith onto getting likes. People. Now, he's gone ply. I think he's gonna superstar. He's probably having these based year in probably the last three or four. Yeah. But that's what we do. If everything was kosher body. We wouldn't have a foot channel, this podcast, wouldn't exist. And we wouldn't have any content, so we're gonna make up a story where we can. And when he does something good. We will him on the back. And when he does something that we don't like will slap him on the house. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that our record. Let's, let's we like everyone doesn't matter who you're stuck into now. We stuck in our area until more than anyone. All right. Sorry now the one this is from this is from another, Josh, this is from this just Johnson. He said, what are you guys talk about why they're onto many players wearing long sleeved shirts, bring them back. Also, who the complex who rock them all, so pips where all was messy of long sleeve where I wanna keep. I wanna keep telling the title but I just thought it was one of those things that. A lot to hide. It's like mystique. It's like, yeah you kind of going along. So meeting, soft be noted. He's just hiding everything that's underneath just the messy breeding that we have in the gonna company and then when you wreck when you reckon up twenty five thirty positions again, you've kicked, you will three. The opponent hasn't seen you face all like is always saying the number six on your back because you've been chasing tile IGA, wear jockstrap in paragon boots. Would make difference because the ability will win over. The fact that we're in a long sleeve. And standing L the pause locked to beat of long-sleeve action. I can tell you that. Shall we? Go on show, we go through all prove the amp laws love along sleeve. There's a certain gentleman by the name of bread Hoti, who has been inducted into the whole of fine, who wore our sleeve every game if he's Correa mono- when I do I have to say more than that giant tacky. Taki Jimmy blood, Jimmy Bitel everybody how wine Schwartz. Darned, German der watt der, what's one. Yes sauce, yet and son of Serge as well. Both of them all loans leaves long sleeve, Jackson Vanni Diego. This three sauces that have worn them over the years ratio. We used to wear them reassure short in malware on either. Hey show. Pharma and joins ice Tony Madre. Shoots. Yep. Nick rebel. Where do you want us to stop might if we can shed wing gettin? Poet, brain. Havi just pure Dard. There are lots lots of them who wore the long sleeves, and it was always the bowl bowl magnets, that wore the long sleeves because, you know, I actually think that I would getting. Getting, you know, look when you run really fast and you get cold, you know, when you going fast in a car and you put your hand and you get frozen because you going so fast in the Calway. It's because she so fast that we have to protect ourselves from Winston are than the truth at all. I think that's the facts the gods. The gods with the ordinary rigs willing slaves, and I'm not gonna loyal war on definitely one, but on kitty because Iraq them up delayed, oh, there's another one. Yeah. Actually, a lot of supplies with do it because it's let's go to let's go to Richmond. Jack revolts throwing the long-sleeve sin Qaeda, Russians worn. That's incredibly soft. Let's go to members in breach. We got a west coast. Look at all the guns that will pay. Once he's nine the blonde. The blonde headed guy from west coast played in there. Two flags early run in the Correze. Always not outages. So Josh, I think it's fair to say limb slaves. I'm not a fan Lavin. Pips is a fan, a massive Adamou's. I Cameron Bruce. Hall, David Schwartz. Yes. What was aware as well? You tell me over gun plays that will short sleeves, and I'll match it with the loan slave. Okay. I'll probably get him good. He were long-sleeve I good you wrong slave. Brownlow. Medallists Wolong sleeves, Danny Frawley long sleeves, Paul Roos Ellis. Lynch long sleeves. He's part of only only go to I've only four hundred gig Omaha drive you fell. This podcast has to finish on this week. But what if I rolling Anthes long-sleeve nights? All right. Another question you sort of questions from Aaron wall. Yeah. Go for it. Yeah. Go for it. While more games played on the traditional said I after noontime slot. I'll give to you because you make it quick. Because. You, you love this one. You love you love the scheduling cash. It's all about the cash, it's Betty, I fail scheduling. And the fact of the I f l will put one guy, Matt on other torn. They needs to be more Setai afternoon football. It's a simple as that is no reason why gone can't start one game. Can't start at one one starts at two thirty and three thirty you have one on FOX, one of the first one won't go on Foxtel Sikkim on will be on parole yellow Foxtail channel third one goes to free. Two way which leads into the news Sunday afternoon you played a little bit early. You don't have to do that twilight slot at the end is full of shit. We could even play to fraud. I have a double-header one Email one over imposed, but you know what? It's a cash grab so simple as that it's bullshit, the grand falls played in the sun, that's way football should be plied, not on the ruse not on the lots to thirty Sunday afternoons bring on the gig. That's when the big boys play don't use. Another one from Arizona. Why did a meat pie costs four dollars at the China game. Wasn't forty? Knows what does what is trying? Look, they just comes down to three words to be honest. Mad cow disease. Thought it was going to be put off walks. Kale calculator sales over enjoy after fly everything I've seen. Thank you. Three words. Thank you. We surgeries and cheek of. Of. You're going to tofu. Pause. And had you know that was actually just signed dogs, very missing. Puerto allied being the. On pretty cool. Paypal's could've been design applies. We. We. Louis von twenty s lavar twenties. But forty dollars is a bit rich but you're gonna to charge fifty cents for the souls cyanide. You know what I wouldn't? I wouldn't mind paying for knows the Partha deals, Adowa, all, yeah. It'd be the other way round dancing. Yeah. Dancing economy, we've even wanna get out of the food. You take out a home loan of and just into Stein. Try the bitter, it's law for the second pot I any more questions it. Yeah. Check my comment coal this. Get a public voice pay people wanting to get a law and into the show pips on. I think we won't be able to get something on lawns. Whether it's I ski for. For people that they were doing cost. The gear is, is literally, the most expensive and the hardest thing to get wrought sound to you, listen start giving us donations to afford a proper platform to be able to take holes. Don't complain leave his voice. We're running for people people who who get a bit of what's, what's that inside of baseball? 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Elder Alberto Belandria Talento Venezolano

CharlaConAngel.

26:19 min | 4 months ago

Elder Alberto Belandria Talento Venezolano

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Episode 139: Christmas is Coming!

Latinos Who Lunch

1:06:23 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 139: Christmas is Coming!

"Hi this is bobby far. This is bobby really don't and we are led to lunch. The podcast where we talk about important things like hello. Hello Hello how are you good morning. Good evening good tonight. I'm good I'm son and that's on the McCain yellow put a soul so I'm very happy be how are you. Wow I'm great. I am super tired and still in Ashland Oregon and just really cold over here because you know winter happens in places I guess and I am running running from winter so we are the opposite. Where are you right now? So I just landed in Las Vegas so more precisely edges landed in in-and-out talk and now I am recording from Majorie Barracks Museum UNLV I am recording. Actually in the auditorium. Because that's the only room that I could find because apparently even if you're in alumni you can rent rooms in the library I don't know how that works but hey we make it work and I'm here for the holidays holidays so I'm going to be here for a while. Oh Year spit at the Oregon. Have you have you been pickling stuff. Are you eating something different and exciting. Some some winter foods girl. I'm working sixteen hour days. I'm literally now girl I'm eating. I'm like a fucking chipmunk. I'm just like the eating nuts in my studio and ordering pizza like I dunno town to pickle shit anymore. I don't have that luxury. I don't have that luxury. And you know it. Pickling is for winter time. It's supposed to be for you to like save. You know. Save Time and just have food ready so I should plan ahead and pickled for this moment of tragic culinary experiences that I'm going through right now but I will do. I think I've had this this conversation on this podcast with you before and I just want to say it again because I just want I. How all you white people listening to this right now? And I'll you lat next people that are white adjacent. Meaning you're probably sleeping with the white person or you live with one. You need to talk to them about this okay and the conversation is going to go back to this all right. Take Ah okay. Let's do this. Let me speak okay. Taking a bag of store bought tortilla chips chips and putting them in a pan and cracking some eggs on them and putting sauce on M. G. Lucky lists does not make nick okay. Let's make that clear if you're GONNA make lists. I'm not expecting you to make those from scratch but by tortillas cut him up fry them up in a pan with whatever flavors you're going to do. I'm not even going to be picky about what sauce. What's the consistency? But don't play me when I ordered. Tequila is at a fancy restaurant in Oregon in downtown Medford. I'm not gonNA say the name. They just like. They literally put. I paid fourteen dollars for awesome soggy chips from a bag with egg on top of it like I don't care I don't care. What kind of secret sauce you put in there? What kind of truffle for oil or essence of ghost pepper? Whatever the fuck it was your you? You're using what is it with white people in goals pepper. I I don't know girl I don't know and it's like I think it's just because it's like they don't have any any friends that are that are brown or that are Latino ignore Mexican or whatever that told them. That's wrong so they're just like Oh yeah. It seems like it's just chips and sauce and eggs. That's that's what I'm Gonna I'M GONNA I'm GonNa make a fancy version of it and put a sprig of Cilantro on the top. Come on. Yeah no that's happened. That's happened to me in Mexican Mexican restaurants so I think it's a mistake all over the scope but you can taste the difference people think we we don't taste the difference but we can take we can taste the difference. Yeah and I mean I understand. I understand people. It's you you know. Time is running out. But you know you can't cut corners when it comes to the NC. Let me Let. Oh Yeah. So you're in Oregon. Eating fake Tilleke announced then thick tilleke. What a hold on are you there? Are you going to spend the holidays with your family. Give us yeah. I'm here just for another couple of days. I literally am in finishing this art piece today. Shipping it out tomorrow and then I leave the next day and I'm back in Las Vegas Nevada with my family. Okay and I'm going to be there for Christmas and that is nicely what this episode is going to be about. I WanNa talk to you about your Christmas traditions. Because I know that the Latin x community is full of really fun Christmas traditions. And we've done a similar muller episode back back back back back in the day when we used to have many sewed but I want to expand on it on this episode. Let's let's do it dude. We do so many things and I I know I'm GonNa Romanticized but I really Miss Christmas in Mexico because Dr was just like we tried to bring a lot of those units over here. But I don't know it's not. It's not the same one of the things that I miss. The most is posadas and oh pesetas Basically Start I think this was the Levian. They will a loophole which is December December twelve. And you carry with you. They call it for seventy and is basically a every creation nation of the holy family looking. I mean of of Marion and Jesus and a donkey in the ideas for them to represent the idea that they're looking for. They're looking for a place to stay so the baby. Jesus is born so you go from house to house and of course everybody organizes. Let's say neighborhood organizes organizes themselves and say okay. Leposava is going to arrive. Episode is going to arrive to your house on the twelve and you high some on the house in the thirteen. And then it's like a whole like Procession slash things. So you saying hey will you allow me to come in and then the other people on the other side of that there is like bitch all like I don't have any money for you like please let me come in. I basically have got in my belly's I go can come in and then you finally allowed in. And then that's when he gets good and every the house is going to host so they gonNA make Born chair which in the northwest cold Kellyanne. Tito's I'll talk about that later because I just made some for my students And the mile does the typical steph. And when you Ellos Steph stuff and when you lose so I've missed that because my my aunt used organized that in the neighborhood and get to carry I get to carry the one year bit. I felt so proud I was carrying this other girl while I was being so careful. Yes alaskans shown as I was walking released Lopez Economic La Wax Candle like I I lived my Christian fantasy it was great and I have not yet gone gone gone to Posadas. That's where people just do a Mexican Christmas party right but like a proper like lit saying command on. Come in okay come in like I haven't gone to none of those here. So that's the thing that I miss that I miss the most of my posadas in in Mexico but that's one of the things that we do now that I'm trying to do do now that I'm by myself I try to do another Pasallah but the the food the Mexican foot of of Christmas but I know your family me like throws down when it comes to food especially your what my lamb family. No I mean both my family's I actually read Mexican side of the family does has posadas and I imagine my Guatemalan family would if they weren't so evangelical Christian because I'm sure back in the day that was part of their traditions to right but the aside is my family in Las Vegas still does them kind of old school. Because there's so many of us from our original of Lucia to gutters Rango that EPA one is Hopefully everybody's okay that I know there's a big flood out there just a few days ago Or a few weeks ago I should say but anyway they organize it here in vague or I'm I'm in Oregon now by in Las Vegas like every family member or family household kind of they take turns hosting the Sava every night before Christmas. And so they just kind of coordinate and so they do the whole Ritual where they they kinda carol they seeing outside of the house so let them in and all that and then the lingo and do the yeah. That's why people people call it. That's like white people police as caroline but they like put on funny costumes and and the food and there's no food So yeah so that was that was like Carolyn with no food and no fun. Okay I guess is less praying less. There's a lot of I mean I. Obviously I raised that part. Bit of human. They invoke the towers. They were very laterally style at main will they do they do cross ideal so basically. You're you hold the rosary in each and each it's like beat of the rosary supposed to be a different prayer and the rosary kinloss like thirty minutes. And you better believe that as a kid. You're just sitting there because you know no you couldn't eat until they finish fucking praying that audio and then they go to the. I don't even know like I don't even remember none of that stuff so I just remember that the money and the and the and that's that's really what we gotta talk about is the food at the posadas but before we do that we're gonNA take a little break and come back. With some more Posada Talk Shit. Oh Gee Baba lethal we have so many supporters on Patriot and right now. It is so amazing to see all of our L. W. U. L. families supporting this podcast. And you can help us too if you haven't already go. Oh check out our patriot and become a part of letting knows who lunch movement. 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It's all on their folks. Deleted the pitch and we're back okay. Let's do this. What is your our favorite? Okay okay. You mentioned several foods here and I want to get into it. Okay Okay you you said the malice and Brunello Kellyanne Tito's and Kellyanne Tito's okay okay so get into what the hell I know what I know. What a mile is but what is also okay? This is known as Bonchamps and I've had fights with people because I don't know why we call everything in the Nord sounds different so we call it Kellyanne. The bet is basically fruit punch. And the way you do it and I'm going to give you the recipe so write this down so okay you take like. I'm going to say like a three gallon pan. Do fill it out with water. You boil the water. You put high. who see comparison our yet? We'll get three gallons at fenway. Goes Way Pie. I just told you I presume part of take them pie got it. Five pound scribble Away and per gallon. You put one big tablet. I mean I don't know how to call it so yeah I'm appeal on CEO CEO. And it's it's sugar on the rap but it's like it comes in to conform in like a little cone and it's probably lake like four inches tall so you put like a round Joe millionaire. I don't like to sweet so I will put maybe three and a half for balloon see IOS and then for three and a half inches only though so Coors or corners three and a half to four corners appeal and saw all right. So you need per per each the per each Balon CEO Marissa. You put like one to two sticks of cinnamon. This is all about your taste right. Because those are fucking Latino recipes goals just put whatever you like. Allegro is the depending depending on house. If you WANNA kick like if you win like a little bit of Buggy to argue and boogie to sour. You go into in the tamarind Ebola Belen limited talk mccusker telecom as Hogan though and does not a very beautiful Christmas so you you peeled the marine dough. And I'm I'm GONNA say per each for each gallon you put two to three and that's GonNa give this like Flavor some people put a lot of her mica. But why you do is that I have like this little T. thing that you just feel it with leaves and then you boil it and then all the essence of the tea comes out. I feel a little so how mica so it has an extra kick to it so the the the what are you GonNa do. You'RE GONNA buy eric among Hardaway's who's going to get a little bit thick you know so you're going to have the the cinnamon in a little bit of of her mica. And then you let that boy for. I don't know like fifteen twenty thirty minutes depending on how thick you wanted and then you. That's when you add the fruits odd Wa wa laboratory that leg guests. They hope coat this in. I don't even. I know how to describe what the cocoa because they got the taste like the court. They're like I don't know how it tastes like the opponents. Why Yeras they got this book? Demand Sinaloa Pungo Montana where the and then is the warriors the Montana. And then you bind king sugarcane lap Pella's and then you cut it into pieces l.. Opponents Acetone tearaway Perreault by pieces. Also I mean like three four inch pieces of Kenya so when you serve it. You're going to have this like thick like avid consistency. Not too thick but like a little bit of hot avid consistency. Ilyas Khan astles flute Cookie Marine Charter economic tiny. La this guitar. La La Kanye. I'll Harare the chew bundle but I could put a camera and if you know how to do things right literally meaning ledgers own. Shot that the Quila or they miskelly in that shed warms your soul. I never made either before and I finally made it for my students because I threw a Christmas party for my students. This past Friday ooh Muscle Moran. Yes for me. Got Us way it was fucking great. So that's my version of a bunch. I don't know if your family makes or they make it differently. Yeah that's that's the exact family recipe that we have great job. Beverly sorry I fell asleep. While you're we're talking Well ask the memorial. I did head but I just like my whole body just like I couldn't. I couldn't stop myself. I just passed out passed away. Ah You know there's always somebody that does it in the family. I've never actually seen anybody I haven't seen the whole process. It's usually my my My mom lessen your. That's The lady in our family that makes on check as she makes it the best and so I just I know there's a bunch of fruit floating in some like dark red stuff. That's it because I'm like I'm not a bunch of person I never liked it and really favorite. Yeah Sungai either You know most. I'm also allergic to most fruit. And and I think that's the reason why because it makes my throat itch when I drink that stuff so I'm more of a chuckle at the person which is also a traditional. Ah drink hot drink right but yeah that's what I know I know that. That's what gives it the color. The Mica right the hibiscus million Bukit relating Pilon CEO. That makes this collar. Yeah Yeah and then yeah so you like to and then what do you. I'd like to eat. Do you eat with Porsche. I'd never heard of that. I I always do with hot chocolate. That is like a traditional. I don't if it's Mexican Latin expert like is that traditional thing to do when you and you make it with Massa better you know what's very interesting I was watching less than you're US causing. NFL Youtube inch. Because it's so fucking complicated but in order you make Lemasa but they add water and they they actually leave the the peel of the audio the green tomatoes. They actually boiled it. And somehow have of you are at that water into the Massa. It allows for the muscle to stretch more because you basically make like like not as Dina and then you have to stretch them and stretch. It's them and stretch them and stretch them into masters flower. Though right it's Komo the mice so of Corn Corn Masa so you add corn Masa. Yes Massa it's Musavi it's not the arena is the is my I strongly disagree. I mean I might be wrong but either way you added the water of the money. You're a big difference difference. I've you can't tell the difference between flour and Corn Masa. I've eaten your family's when you're at Lowe's they're definitely flower all remember when a I mean marina waiting for us in inquiries yes. I don't know my memory but see. She makes the best ones because she actually includes the sugar and cinnamon within the within the dough. Which is going to call it though? Hell alarm system. To you've remiss in the main ingredient in your when your lowe's Lard ride yeah and you have have to beat that with your hand man so you have to just do it with your hand and then you get this. Like almost liquid consistency again live. What was laugh aloud why they lost to Matteo? Mattia la La Scala Tomatillo. LA- lemond the cinnamon the sugar. And then then you you stretch a Mister Mister Mister Mister to Mr Chairman. Then you fry them and oh they're so good some people make a little classical Mongolian. Tito's Komo Mojave like a little like like a like a little honey that you make with whatever and With balloon see your why and water and then it gets really really thick. He lives by the way. Oh shit the the thing is so so so so good but my favorite. When you meadow they meridian? Yeah and basically weekly for you people that have never had when you're before they're like usually the size of like a big flower the really crispy. So when I was young this this was me. Oh my gosh this was me I was the white people making. She lives out of Tortilla bags or tips from the store. Just because I thought this is how people made them I would take flour tortillas like from the bag them up and I I would fry them up and then put cinnamon and sugar on them and they were like bootleg loss. Okay everybody wait way. Everybody get a pen and paper okay. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU MY. This is my recipe for when you lost. Okay go to the store. It's the most I don't know. Are you writing this down belittle mid the Google you go to the store that means go to the store okay. You can drive there. You can take public transportation. You can uber okay. Once you get to the store you go in you go to the you go to the you go to the Tortilla. Not I'll if you live in a an predominant act if you're an Ashland Oregon you go to the ethnic or Hispanic in your grocery store and you I don't get that done at the tortillas on end caps where the artisanal food is. You don't want anything organic you WANNA go straight to the GMO preferably Lee mission. Not as good or get. Galileo is also family favorite and so the process. It looks better and don't get the small ones and get the get the large ones the ones that look like a small pizza okay. So you'RE GONNA get those not as readiness down small pizza you got okay. Okay Okay I get a bunch of oil in the only oil you can get is Sola. Moorgate Scotland Sola A- and so that's also a good tip you just a good facial cleanser to okay so then you take the muscle and the thirty s to your house. You get an you get a pan not a pot a pan And you put it in there and you make sure the oil is hot okay. You make sure it's hot. You throw a little something in there. Make sure it's sizzling. Take out of the bag throw it in. There are make sure it's nice and Golden Brown. Then you can flip it If you have the hands you can just dunk your hands. Right in that oil and flip flip with their fingers if you're a millennial that of US tongs okay and then once once you get it perfectly crispy and it's all bubbled. You throw it on a plate with paper towels and you soak it up let it soak up. Well you got to be very careful. This is a crucial step yet. And you right away you right away you dust it with the little cinnamon a little sugar And then it kind of soaks it all imperfectly. Once everything is nice and cool you can even do a second dusting If diabetes runs in your family maybe skip that one and then did you write that down. It's that's how I used to make when neurons and I was like seven years old and I thought it was that I think Joe Very Authentic East Vegas loss. I know I tried to make those once. But because you have to let them stewed what sorry I was gonNA say. Do you want me to repeat appear near the recipe for you. Think I got it. I think I got it. Okay good good good good so I just I. I haven't made them because like like stretching them and letting them breast that was actually like. That's some of the Fund is memories. I have because it's a hundred dollars. Ds and other Gabe kits so you just like stretch stretch for hours and hours cousin for me. Yeah well you know which one and it's a family affair just like let them allow you know it's like yeah I I'd just anytime we make like an assembly line. You know because one person in the Maasai one person is stretching out the the low made with flour. You're with because that's what gives it like all the starts you don't to pull it and then does your family do the whole thing where they like. Put it over their knees so that it drapes and the gravity helps make it bigger Gan than they cover the lowest con con Severna. So you so you let them dry could could you live them overnight to dry and the idea is that it's easier to fry it when it's like my yeah totally but as we wave. Okay what I do want. We talked about this before but life people didn't go back to that episode. Please tell people about your grandma's now Siemian though because we haven't talked about that. We're still long your grandma's worst-off so I know but I I don't want I don't want to run out of time. Unit fucking goodsell. God Well My Grandmother Makes Nativity every scene and they typically seen and she does it with whatever she has around the house and so she. She doesn't even do Christmas anymore. She just does a giant NASA Mendosa. She takes boxes and stacks them on top of each each other like a big kind of pyramid and then She covers that in like crumpled up. Like Brown paper like kraft paper and and then she makes like this just like little mountain and then she puts a bunch of lights around it moss that she's like collected over the years and then puts the survey puts the little the major and the stable and the top with all the characters except for baby. Jesus because baby. Jesus doesn't come mm to Christmas Day. It's it's all it's the cast of characters is Joseph Mary The three wise men the angel angel lamb away which is the the horse or no the cow. Then there's the Hor- sometimes it's the donkey. It's usually a donkey actually a Moola if you WANNA have a Queer Nativity scene and and then you have some sheep. Usually because there's like a puzzle seat seat though you know And so yeah and so she puts all the you know the regular cast of characters although the three wise men didn't show up till January honorary six. So that's yeah but I'm like wait. Why are the three wise men there? and Ah Jesus I mean according to the historical document the holy pliable. That's not correct. So Nike Rid. Yeah but what is. Accurate is my grandma's Nativity scene. Because not only is it that but she also puts a little lagoon at the bottom a little a little pond and she makes it with Canada's makes it with marbles and just like all the seashells and beautiful rocks. She's collected her whole life. She puts it around around to make like this little beach scene So little ducks in there She Puts Swan. There's an alligator sometimes times. There's a dolphin fan little figuring that what's in there right at the base of the mountain. You grow your grandma collapses time and space. She puts different climate different geographies different. Forget love and there's a lot of micro climates in Mass Mesopotamia. Okay so then then. On the on the left side is usually like the animals that are like herd animals so animals like camels and more sheep and livestock. You know a lot of cows and horses and pigs then goats things like that and And then you start moving. Imagine Pan Right on this negativity scene and as you're panting right of the animals get more and more as my grandma says Salva is okay so they start seeing being you start seeing zebras. You start seeing little bears And then you get into the jungle. She takes she takes all these branches inches from trees outside and like and pine trees and makes like a little forest. And that's where the Salva I I knew Melissa. Vac has lived just like the Bible. So there's tigers and like a there's like Jaguars there's like dinosaurs t rexes and Brontosaurus and All the scary animals that were in the Bible right and so after that at the foot at the foot of this mountain where Jesus about to appear highly highly mountain There is a little Coca Cola village. You know like like those traditional little villages but she's collected little villages from different sets countries. Yes so and then. So there's like little people ice skating and going to church and going to school and then There's also a long long line of cars that are that's wrapped around the whole thing. That's their driving up to see the baby Jesus also so a a lot of little matchbox cars And then of course there's the two top the whole thing off. She put instead of Christmas tree. A star she she. She took her her old Christmas three star that she bought in the eighties for her Christmas tree And now just puts it on top of the. That's that's my grandma's liberty it's a vision man to see that live. It's a fucking vision. Thank you so much for indulging me Have you seen it in person. I think I have. I think I've I once it's insane. I didn't think you were a lot of my grandma's house around the holidays. Let's not get into that. You know what actually I was just thinking about that yesterday because I would just arrived home I yeah like the whole Fritsch Gate for with your grandma for those of you. Who the we talked about the time? We went to my grandmother's house and opened the fridge. That permission that. Yeah the time the time. I'm glad you remember. So what about it. I was thinking about it yesterday. Because we arrived to my mom's house right and My my mom's and we have in and out and we have beer and my husband goes directly and opens the fridge and puts the beer and for a split second I was like wow okay go for a split second and this is somebody that yes that it's my family now so like for a split second I went like what and then I was like all shed now again. This Lucienne took Adobe Khorassan of my God. That's that's funny now. Now you get it better than most demolished the most no they would not lose Thirty years favors you have llamas Kellyanne. Tito's now the main thing I mean when eh the Melissa. But I've never meet the Mondays. It's too much fucking work. Yo It's so much work and my Guatemalan families still makes them my lesson. That is crazy. Those each of does the moderniser like three pounds each. So it's like it's a whole two days of preparing and right literally. The whole family has to get together all the all the at me we all get together and and make them and I I I mean the Malas are just to me. They are Christmas. You know what I mean like really we only make them Once a year and my family that see. That's that's that's that's my thing to like. I really only eat them. Listen Christmas but I gotTa say David shout out to everybody in Chicago and Pilsen because you see them a lettuce all year round from a narrow when it's fucking cold as fuck all the way to December it is cold as fuck and the MELAS. That's one thing there's no good tacos in Chicago. I'm sorry yeah. A lot of listeners are going to be like you haven't been here and there but there's no good TACO's close in Chicago but the my less are so good so now I eat them all the time. Now like Dr Laura like after school like I'll stop and get at the Molly Lepanto of free three contact like I'm happy so nice Molly this yeah yeah own mind jump out of a window now no mobile carrier aching fairway mile this culpa various could Kananga whoever is that was just that was fucked up. I just need a minute but I see. I can't believe you said who are you. Know who are you just like. Oh my God. Did you just ruined Christmas. Mr Me did man. Hey so what do you like to put on. Kamala is the Sierra Universal. The Wall I always always add silencer tomato. But you know you know 'cause Because you only have the malice in so people make dozens and dozens and dozens. Right so my mom used to freeze them and we used to eat that shed like for months. My favorite thing to do do is to grab at the multi level but not low in little pieces and then put some oil independent. Oh see got it right. Put some oil in the Pan and then Rachel is through those those wearables rebel loss. So you have basically have like Migas but instead of the demolished. That's my favorite thing. y'All that is fucking good. That is like hung over food. If I've ever ever heard it dude it's it's pretty hard enough. Put a whole day of the mylan there the so great data loss and then the hoagie lottery. Hollis said PANETTONE LLAMAS ELTA model. Who that is that is there? Penetrate that Massa girl although by Guy Melody Oh my goodness better. The one of the free horse who in the whole jus just penetrates the oh you. You should make the tire you so I'm not funny. It's just that you're or not my God within consol that's been dropping doc so long as the last day of my Gomo cancelling. Can you tell me. I know that's me did it did it did it. Can you have her. Make a t-shirt for me that says that uh that'd be great okay. I'll do it. I'll tell her to make a skeleton shirt because I can only wear that I did it to myself so listen I'm tired. I know but it's been really fun. I'm excited about the holidays and I'm excited about seeing my family because I have been away from home for three months now in Oregon and in all seriousness. I just want to thank everybody here in Oregon. I know nobody. Maybe one person listens to this shadow to emily MC pack at the Schneider Schneider Museum. She's been a really good friend to me and I know she listens to this podcast. But it's been really awesome here. I I I you know. I've never taught at college level before and it's was really great getting to do that and getting that Experience here now. I know that I can do it. And that It's something that I have in my pocket now and that I can and pursue if I want to and I couldn't have done it without all these amazing people here in Ashland Oregon. So you know I I talk a Lotta Shit on this show but I also want to express gratitude to everybody and to all of the amazing artists out here. Of course first. The students that were in my classes. They're amazing and they're actually is a strong Latin next community here. Maybe not specifically here maybe more and Medford which is a bigger your town just down the way. But I've got to meet a lot of really cool people While I was out here and I and I'm probably GONNA end up coming back Because I've made so many wonderful friendships. So that's that's something that I never. I never thought I would be like have a community of people in Oregon and I know I say this after every installation then I do But I also I wish that I also wish that I was working so damn much so that I can actually enjoy being here. That's why I wanNA come back to just chill because ever since okay got here. I've been working on three projects at once including Latinos who launch and my other thing and this and that and that at all so I hope hope to you know we talked about it last year. I say the same shit every year is like I really hope to be more in the moment and this next year coming up so shifting gears a little bit that's kind of my a new year's resolution is to give myself more time to be in the moment. You know what I mean. Yeah I I. I know you're saying like this this semester. I leave the house. I I work on a big proposal for a big fellowship. I work in like three or four applications for work. I wrote like four or five essays and it was. I always feel like I wasn't doing enough and I wasn't able to enjoy enjoy it and it wasn't until I actually got my students to come forward to the house and I made them a big pot of pasta and coline Tito's and everything and then I got a student who probably like a beautiful node in every allies that fought like. I don't get to enjoy what I do because I'm just like as you say I'm not in the moment and it's important. I think it's important so for mental health because if I would stop at least at the end of the week in realize what. I am accomplishing when I'm accomplishing with my classes. You know I think it would've I would've it would've made it easier for me to go through it because they were weeks. suis specially during deadlines where it just seems like. You're doing everything wrong you know and you're just going going going going and working working working working. It's not until this moment like right now like this is like my last thing is just to turn in great so I have to work for one more hour and I'm done for like three weeks and now that I'm thinking about. In retrospect the whole semester is like Holy Shit. Like like I did stuff you know so I think it's important to take a second and and and enjoy it because we never know where we're going to be tomorrow and who knows like we're going to miss this moments where we don't have a lot of work and you know like riding the wave. So yeah that's that is that is that is definitely that I think a lot of people Shoot think about you know. So that's that was my resolution. How about you make the other one I say? Do you have any other ones I I. My goal is to get okay okay so I don't know I'm ready. I'm ready to start a family man and in order to do that I need to. I need to get a tenure track and I need to get that job and he said I need to get a baby I was like I know I know where you get one. She Well yeah that I mean. That's not going to happen here. That's not the resolution but in order to accomplish that goal they could be in the next three four five years or whatever. I need to get that job so I need to work harder on my book and getting their tenure truck so those are my two goals and does my. That's my resume to work on that book and to work on the tenure track and hopefully in five years. You know I can accomplish this because I did have no idea that this was was in me but you know what is the heat though. Let Chinga and now I can stop thinking about it so so. I'm going to work hard for that. So that's my resolution. Yeah you start getting old and your bones start hurting. I weigh soupy at us. Less less less. Like Not Bah simple. It'd be one of those days that gets their hips replaced girl. I already know I can't again the Camus Abbad Day. Oh my gosh are my art is going to kill me my gosh okay. So you're in Vegas or are you GonNa stay in Vegas for for much of whatnot because you know what a we didn't talk about this and we should have We don't celebrate Christmas Christmas really. On the twenty fifth traditionally we celebrate it on the twenty four th the night before we party til midnight. And that's bats when the kids open the presents none of this go to sleep. Leave cookies for this White man that breaks into your house house no way you know what we have the Party on the twenty fourth. But Way I was Gonna ask you did you. Did you ever ever for a minute believe in Santa Claus. Oh Yeah Mba Hallway. You'd be like Oh it's like twelve. I think small close. Yeah Yeah Twenty eight you said Nope and twelve God this. This is how much I bought into the myth. I think I must have been like to get believe believe I think it must have been like eight in the summer it was. He wasn't even close to the winter. And my friend is like Santa Claus next system and I was like Yes he does us. It's like noisier talks to me but medical comparable alison. I'm like your dentist stupid. Let's do a fucking survey so I grabbed my pan and hand head and my patent pen and we went to the neighborhood and we can deduct status in your quest. But isn't that gloss exists there now he gladdock existed so we will go. We went to prolly ten houses in our neighborhood knocking on the door asking the parents to tell us that if Santa Claus existed in fucking one grunge motherfucker he's like non Alexi Lalas competent to pass documents has caused us but I think out of ten houses that we surveyed one house was annot and the nine th the rest of them say yes so I still believe in Santa for a couple more years after that that my gosh you do the survey while it does deep so yes I definitely believe in Santa. The GO-TO NO NEW YORK. Maybe maybe till I was like I don't know maybe I think when I was like five I was like this is bullshit. Oh Shit dude dressed up not mean and I did it. I wouldn't say anything until I didn't say anything until I was like eight or something But I was just like okay. I'm just going to take these presents but I know you're I know you're mighty aretha in a costume. It's not like I don't know but I just like I just went along with it and just like pretended. Everything was fine kind of like how I'm doing right now. Like like I never. We never had any of our family members dressed up but the best we have the like sitting down with my family family in good. That's probably why you believed in it. Sheriff sharing stories about Santa Claus with our families. It's so fun because US everybody's drunk everybody at like two in the morning when the kids go to bed and Santa Claus comes in everybody's fucking drunk so I remember my dad. He will leave the he one year left the toys outside and for God and my literacy he forgot some some of the toys outside like outside of the house. That's how drunk he was. He never took put him inside the house. So my little sister will covey goes and because my sister was like my lasagna ratio. Say Bad words and she was like maybe four then there will be this void. Ed like one time like my aunt to they were super drunk and they put the toys and they had three kids and they forgot one of them. They're like forgot about one of them. They forgot so they send them back to bed bad and then they walked up again all my God. So yes we definitely my whole family. Someone really believe yeah. I just started thinking about it. I don't think I believe because my my Guatemalan side of the family family just told us the exact real because Christmas now or you know what it's all coming back to me Christmas about is is is a sham. It's not about all these traditions. It's about God. Uh We don't actually know if Jesus was born this day but we're still going to celebrate him so we're not going to give each other presents kind of thing. What is so then? I pretend so when I go to my Dad's side whose Catholic and loves all these traditions. That would just pretend that. I'm like uh-huh yeah it's I wouldn't be a party pooper because I was trying to get presents. You know what I mean I was like. Oh yeah yeah this is real. Oh this is real and I would believe it there. I don't know it's all crazy. I mean the just every time I see a Christmas tree in somebody's house I always am thinking. They chop down a tree to put a bunch of lights on it inside a house for what it's it's just like what like I'm se. Mantha is so different. It's like you just taken all this recycled stuff and putting get out every year but cutting off restaurant down and I'm not even like an environmentalist. It's just ridiculous. It's so stupid yes it is but I I need the money and if you get a fresh on it smells so good yeah. Are you going to spend Christmas with your with a in vegas or you're going to California with your family. I'm actually going I'm actually going going to This weekend I'm going to to Realto with my family and then We come back for for Christmas with with my family and the New Year's Eve again injury also with With with my family so yeah I'M GONNA go back and forth back come forth. That's nice you see everybody well. So my mom's side of the family. Which is Mike? What Amal inside? Because because we don't celebrate Christmas we actually celebrate my cousin. Elsie who was born on Christmas Eve so we call it L. Smith's yes and so we all go to el-sisi House and we give her presence. She's like our baby. Jesus in the family So technically we'll get together for and for Elsie and so we are probably going to do my Guatemala tied Christmas Miss Eve and then my dad's side. They're also going to have a big party on Christmas Eve but like they usually do the Mexican side but They also might the other like very like pinterest the as now and so for like the past and you know exactly. Yeah that means which I would pal it. Backdrop banner are outdoor lighting. Indoor lighting Pastel. Color backdrops hashtag clothes pin photo auto. Arrangements Yeah stop at people okay So just by picture frame okay. So mm they like to do like Pajama Day. So everybody goes to somebody's house early. Like in a whole like like one zero and a Pajama and we just like lounge around and eat the leftovers and watch movies and play games on Christmas Day. So we're pitching's lat next Christmas with White People Christmas. Yeah why Dimick's Nice Nice. That sounds wonderful. Oh I wanted to. I wanted to pluck something. I mean related to Christmas because I forgot to tell you so. The reason why we go into who does this. We're going back to San Bernardino this week. This weekend is because my family over there is organizing a mckellen avenue so they we are bringing some like they're going to sell food misread was going to sell her jewellery This is GonNa take place on On Friday this Friday okay so tomorrow and it's got center for the arts so if you are in the inland empire if you WANNA eat my delicious cupcakes come and show up. Show your support again. They got center for the arts and this on Friday December twentieth. I almost forgot it. It'll it'll be that'll draw some Amami catch it unless you have to. She doesn't she would have been mad. So at gotTa See US Center for the arts. Don't forget I'm GonNa be I'm going to be over there. Yeah and Speaking of nasty man throw I just actually was able to fly. Hi My grandma out. Like two weeks ago at we went to the LONGMONT firehouse arts center. And that's Longmont Colorado and we actually made my grandma's famous nothing mantle on a very large scale in the gallery so the exhibition Naseem Mantha is up now through I think January fifth in Longmont Colorado. So if you WANNA go see being at that cardboard version of Samantha that I described earlier in the episode you can do that It's not too far away from Denver And Yeah Longman. Is this really nice little town in Colorado and I like to say Colorado like bat and all the listeners like came out to help me Do the Nessie Mantha shutter to the Orion her family and Oh my gosh so many people. I can't even remember everybody's name but a bunch of people's just showed up to to help with an se mental. I was out there. Got Enough of course dear friend So many folks. Yeah check that out. Is that your ramming they should do. You have anything else babs. I actually had music recommendation okay. I'm going to leave the recommendation for our music a month music episode. So I think I'm going to stick with that with the county. They knew my recommendation for for the week. Yes because I'm going to get into that album so right and well with that being instead Ed. I'm just GONNA leave it at that to say I'm really looking forward. Basically our next episode is going to be all music recommendations for any of new listeners that I don't know the first episode of every year is our tribute to Radio Monas- song mess and other Latin next music podcasts. And we do our favorite songs of favorites top three songs and top album of the year. So we're going to be kind of reviewing the music of twenty nineteen in the next episode. Right that's right and I'm so so excited because have so much to say. Oh good I haven't listened to anything so it's GonNa be really fun googling stuff in the next week. I'm I'm so excited but friends that have been sending me stuff so I'm excited to to listen to everything and because you you know. I don't know why I listened to the dam little album so much. I'm like really all I listen to. This past year was like literally listen to the same four albums is like on. Repeat so it doesn't matter but we. Yeah we're GONNA have fun episode coming up well before we sign off. We just WANNA give a big big shout out to all all our Patriot on subscribers and We WanNa give you all shoutout so we're going to start with are wonderful wonderful mother. Dina's we love you all. Thank you so much for helping us. Think you to Hillary Vanessa A- and thank you so much Nancy. Thank you and Stephanie. 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Olivier Bernhard

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37:38 min | Last week

Olivier Bernhard

"Hello and welcome to run port. The run club of the podcast world much. Like other run clubs. We meet weekly by here. It really doesn't matter how fast you're on how long you run for nor how far you travel in that time. All runners are welcome fast. Slow young owed new. Experienced gazelles plotters. You might glide you might. You might struggle but the facts that you get out there and give it a go is what really matters now. I'm jenny falkiner. And every week. I am joined by a guest who also loves roughing and today's guest has turned his passion into a full moon global business. In fact it's one of the major players in the fitness world for today. I am joined by founder of on running. olivier bernard. Hello there said he and hello everyone listening way. Glad to be beaten. Welcome to run part. It's great to have you. I mean this is exciting. The magic of the internet means levy. I am in london. Where are you today. I'm in a small switzerland looking out my way abilities about Snow it's nice. it's beautiful it's cold some problems with very close to knock the actual sway salves but the very stop the sauce overview. Talk about the pretty sure. We're gonna talk about Later into the talk anyway. Yeah we certainly well. I mean how exciting that. You're in the snowy swiss alps. And i'm i'm more in a very gray london town but you know you're right at its it's there's no excuse. If you want to go running you should just be able to go. And you should take on the elements whatever they are absolutely and i think that was maybe not the first thing. I embraced with london. Butler and i stopped at traveling in wanting before in professional athletes. But also before i found it on that was beauty. You know in traveling. Then you get to you see peaches shoes. You sold New garon you exac. Can you at the badri was for to get their song. You know all the good coffee places where the butcher is to get the meat for the opportunity evening so i always thought that so cool in running. I mean that must much more inviting than just to be safe. It always goes to me. When i would i be again. Union athletes will now becoming found dover global successful Running company and. Can i say i mean. Obviously you have this incredible business which we are definitely going to talk about by the way. But i can we talk a little bit about you livia because am i right in saying you are pro athlete yourself and a pretty speedy marathoner to that right. Jenny thank you. I think i used to be by then. Told you said very nicely. The beginning of the opening wouldn't speed means like to me over here is has been a professional athlete. It was all about speed. It was not so much just in inside was not so much about being enough to me. it was a was always trying to be the best actually but time high was even second or third priority. So you know. I think nowadays i. I stopped competing in two thousand five salutes. On fifteen years ago. And i've only done one marathon mandates. Exactly i quit an mir. Since i put on by common number or i would lie in out for full for the full raise. I think you know some of you might ask why because know he talks about. Passion is not doing this. I just think you know the union professional full long time. I've thought this is my job almost than that giving it all be one with the based and then if you don't have to be the best in new clearly richest will have found a faith and i always i think before even over the eighty percent dom because i lost it not because i earn money doing so and i think you know when you don't have to put on the number and keep it all and as we all know if you do a marathon even it sounds say til the phone is along. Forty two ks right thumb point government. You're going to be heard. And you want to add law. And i still do it but i don't pick. I need that to go the limit anymore in some way. So i sometimes just go where to go for pincay. Ron and i ended up coming back with a forty five ks on my watch just because i didn't stop because it happens very off another often but most of the nineteen say often. It happens spreading. Usually you know when you have out a whole modes go out and see first flowers. The green screen of it used be in when it's like the snow is gone and all that i think it just gives that extra That who vanity. So sometimes that can happen and then it sometimes happens amounts to white midi. Forget you know this beautiful you you just wrong. You don't think about money somewhere else. And i think you know so that you can relate to that sometimes talk about the flow fee. Lightning just can happen and then let nanny type in. Michael let it would say. Yeah i mean. I think personally that you probably start running. Because you'd want everything that's what it was because right listen to this listen to alleviate one. He was multiple swiss champion duathlon world champion in ninety four ninety six ninety eight ninety nine two thousand two hundred as the two thousand and four multiple ironman. I mean basically you just one everything in your life nothing would have been sub races like you know the world championship. It filed clone in hawaii. A again i i was talking about. Cold climates nolan. I think just not not fishing excuses. You know trying to find Analyzing a couple tries to make it happen in corona but can purchase again there. You made it a was just not able to reach my best. I had to acknowledge. But then again i mean look. It's raised pretty reich. Makes it easier if you if you know dr congo boxes. That's on the remolding. At some point you okay. So here we go. You retired from all that amazing competing and collecting all those metals which are just weighing you down and then in twenty ten. You founded on running along with your friends. David and casper and with the aim of developing running shoes. Was that what it was. Why did you develop this incredible brand. I mean was it to design the ultimate trainer. What was the goal. Toss back to being a professional and very passionate. I pulled from these pounds of many different brains when i was an athlete nelson. Listen a young talented actually. So iran may through six seven different brains. Always find my ray. My my trainers to train will support Always picky happy trails. i i was. I was still hounded foolish. Who it wasn't a shoe it was more sensation that tie back the feeding ahead when i was young when i was very young. Not care not say had by effort right. it's just that freedom initial than a shoe technology you need is supposed to give my best the freedom and be different than anything out there and even me for a long time and You can action doing long distance by actual marathons. You're a long time. You spend a lot of time on the by running around beautiful nature so the issue also about innovation. How you actually would design running shoe not knowing how out to actually manage that. But still i did a lot of ideas and i knew exactly in my mind while knife e toby taxi altitude feel and that was what i was also. I was off that money shoe that different funding sensation. They bomb on. Yeah i mean look very honest. I obviously wasn't athlete sponsored by the american brain by to talk to the labor. They said look the drawings. Nice makes all sense for engineers. We spent millions of dollars ends of millions of dollars. Every year i think engineers no executive And a also was disappointed very beginning. It didn't take very serious but then as an athlete you just gave up next morning. Don't trusted i do than i do. My money shoes was it right. That you designed that first prototype. You wanted to design a shoe that felt like you were running on clydes is that right. Jenny no no. That was not the was not the asian it was. It just happened you head out. I posted time then was first action over five hundred. Eighty five thousand tooth. The first year we took the shoes through capital marathons you know in europe mainly germany austria switzerland and then it had been not only once but a couple times they find it was more. That ladies came yogi when before. The marathon is a marathon expos at came to the bulls Table read by the and just a black impeachable label. Couple choose on top. They put on the shoes. They jumped up and found that it may be like thirty. Fifty meters of talking came back and it kept chomping type. O is feels like running monk clouds and big picked it up and heard like five times within a couple of weeks said okay. That's the customers feelin something fight and we felt like this is probably the nicest mostly describing bought. I said you know by supporting me is a pro. You need it super unique support and also in the freedom in the fourth and all that and yet it's finally be cold it instead nowadays. He probably cloudy. I actually the all your trainers have been named clyde flyer the cl- whatever ever is they've all got clogged in there. And we haven't your we still play that game. I mean look at the end of the day. It's it's all connected found right that night. I stated very early that being a professional athlete. Fumbles always very bolton needed. I enjoy what i do and knocked with for the nine yogi lady to survive. But i wasn't tweeted by the money. I will stick it by you. Know being my best and then again. It's it's pretty much in the same for me The company is co founder and also leading. The innovation could be that the trying to build more benches will top here. I mean it's impressive. Though in ten years what you've achieved you're one of the big players in this arena with a product range that truly is expanding and evolving in the time that i have discovered on which has been in the last five years. You have way more than i think. Quadrupled the amount of trainers says more than twenty five styles of men's and women's in masses of colors ton of gorgeous fitness gear as well. I mean obviously it's been is it must feel like a whirlwind tip accelerated so quickly in pursuing medications or something like this. It was very honestly as you know you know running. I mean i give you my salute. When i was sold in was twenty years old that romney was found for a one was easy. Everyone you know. It's one of those things that you and your talented. You think it's that's out there fighting the war. And then i stopped by at my successes. He said you know vaca- likely concert at swiss champion. And maybe i m european champion and then some companies invite the need to to for speeches. Talk about is now james success or you know out the actually continued success and often. I will connect it. Because i felt again. It's all because of running i. I'm i'm actually here. Even as a triathlete. It's bike you. Up is because of running so i hit these people before next morning like three forty minutes from me and i will find out that both of the people cannot connect that was often reviews people out the two minutes two minutes. When asked me to me is to be questioned but you think now off the two minutes finding because it's so boring that could not connected a honesty and finding out that maybe on the oakland takes finest. Everybody is so much fun. It's easy it's effortless. Right he so much more into that. Spend a yeah. I think that he being this feeling. And almost this aid many more men many more people that was really the tracheotomy. They're both might push. I felt like you know. I can keep everyone the coaching listen. How the union operates where it some of. It's impossible even if it's a small country. But what i could do if i could. He's nine engineer. Trae know that could actually help everyone to make cromwell fund. That would be fantastic it. And that's what we are still up too. I love this it shows. Doesn't that when you said that when you went running you came up with the idea. You had time to think when you run you do feel your most creative and look how creative you've been you've created up lemon running empire berlin. You're right well. I think is brilliant is the fact that you know. It started out as this idea. And you're right for your your run in twenty ten and you set out the company that year on now you know. There's more than seven million runners ride the world wearing on in more than fifty countries. demand is constantly growing. And you've won awards for the design and the technology which you know you're you're involved and can we discuss the technology who meets on running trainers different to other brands. Just you know if someone was to go into a shop. Why would they pick on over another brand. You can see visually. You're right when you see it at all. Nobody is into the running all. Obviously it also looks different. Carlos the clouds fight. I mentioned it before again for most people whining. He's painful or at least not apart of fun. And change this fact by using a unique on cruising company technology and how the engineer many individual clouds and obvious goes back to what you mentioned the already pretty much everything that has to do with writing feeling that he actually walk on his right shoe with the cloud. Serve fully cloud all connect you to cloud. But again he it. Many the cloud elements those pots that icy also the outsold and each of these elements announce olympic also to explain that. Since he can't go you cannot see me does not only dampening cushioning in berkeley. So often down will all shoes through so at the same time it bows it also or something so from forwards and backwards so he almost let you blind in Maybe you can compare the bigger now by your way you have this month by or maybe also pennies you play in the same Hawker terry different. Because you're you're you're sliding into you spent. Obviously this is is much better for your child's because once you actually spent on how clouds they collapse firmly close. Let's the simple gave on our on our shoes very simple and that the beginning by the way just a funny story people in trusted even Anyone else out there. No the big companies would have by many many years before. But there's often in life. Frank you'll see the simplicity of the beauty of simplicity and he said his side and i think proves it enough now let people brace the pick and the teams were and made he also something you augerai drive eating again kind of soul. It's basically he's i. It's this clouds you'll see today from tool and what you don't see at banded is as people i j your shoes speed bold is there to almost you that be like feeling colleague of all emotion. So it's not clapping. It's all about supported dilemma. Phobic to winfield by now and also new. You're right when you go into the shop. They blew different. And i think you'll never forget your first pair of on a my first ones. I mean livia. I don't think he'd do them anymore. I still have some. They are white and neon yellow and were site flash. Was that what they were just. You haven't tried you know it's not going to hurt you. Go into a store and ask for the owns and try them in the store. I mean when. I always laughed. Of course i'm divining falls behind the company Review it on. But what i said the into also convince might crew co founder. France casper baby when they didn't buy the story initially. I said look what we can do. I bring six pairs of shoes. While is currently mantha. Collagen five points on the market. You said need you want and you reach for entities and they obviously couldn't tell the guy friends but mine said this is different. I don't know like it or not but this is different and the next exercise is it. Okay it's except Around and after two rounds they came back and said let's talk. Let's talk about the business. Plan the product. They come beans right. It's not me on the sales guy. Besides you all know if you all passionate about anything you will sell any personality right because you'll be you'll be right so maybe i'm salesperson but in regards record i hate to sell. Might technology could to france fulton finally but obviously they don't they they had to say since you are. You are obviously an excellent salesperson but then it is your trainer people listening on if you're running right now hulo welcome to run. Port and olivier is obviously know. It's his brand on running. But you might have seton the own trainers selection in the show up and being impressed. But it's difficult to know which shoes to choose olivier. So if you if i was just ask you you know. A general is if someone was training for say A marathon is the shoe that would recommend for them compared to training for just a five k. all depends as speed way dong like trade on. I would say that i'm afoul. Most likes trading is the cloud flyer excess possible trainer rate. You can pay on many different terrains that he can pay long runs even told the runs navy knocked the most found to do you. Know like super sprints. If you really think you're all type of likes angel. Hr around like this. You know just some springs at the end of the training or through some chunks up and down or you know he nicole's been. I only say the cloud flow is as a way to advance so nice about the client of flow. Is you could even raise the debt. You up to hafner for new runner. Who's just starting out getting. Their first pair of decent trainers is a real good first pair of trainers that you'd recommend without be the cloud fluids. Well both of them. But i think if someone really starts to run in recommend to club flyer i the flyer it gives you a little bit more support absolutely good to get these tips because otherwise you know sometimes it can be. It can be a big. You know nightmare when you go in and you just see all these beautiful trainers in different colors but you don't know which ones right for you and you can be swayed by the color as opposed to the technical element so yeah is good to get this advice. I mean sustainability is obviously something for twenty twenty one. Everyone is trying to make more of an effort and on have very impressive program that you're looking at to start and it's called cyclone is that right. Yes item is just taking stay to be to the next level. The always lost from the beginning at on. This is tension or you can call a challenge. Old well it. It's almost like an issue as we said why us you know running shoe or who plants racing flights and trainers also be right there. No opposites we can bring him to get too. That's why i said. The flow is one of the best examples. You could trade. Eventually you can raise that you but you can do well. It will enable the perfect performs in it and the same goes for cycle may be face many challenges from the beginning a cycle is named says white kind. It's a it's a munster's weather system and pick this name for one white the cold again also because the clouds but also because of the output will be thinking heavy democracy is. It's basically it's a. It's a recyclable shoes. Now look the problem giannis week. Almost anything you look now in the market sees these fashion is it apparel. You know anything glasses through nature you go by us your full weight and it's caught right lost and be wanna make things and the only company out there especially you spend a lot of tiny nature as you almost do right. You don't wanna do any harm to the planet or at least educa- and also be very honest. I was kind of almost proud year. Three your four. When we started to the outfit is also nice knowing. Actually that you know the full sybase the so as soon as nia kossi can make a change in the industry. We should definitely try to do it. It is an athlete. Usually don't try to do it then cyclone it's obviously to a next nuts because we you know graduated compromise so the shooter the opera is made out of of kosta needs costal beans and to process this so we can actually offer the use of the product we can strike the pot than melted and then we use it again. We can make shoes again. Maybe not maybe not within the next twelve months but we can make path of shoes again. Is it the speed. Old is it. He either within cranky full monty will be able to actually put it back in the shoe. So you Then what's what's often difficult if you salted. use new systems to accustom. Oh how do you bring back the shoes because you're not used to bring back shoots who so so with the whole system again said Watch and you don't own that to anymore. Can you mentioned that. So you actually subscribe for the shoe. If you pay a monthly subscription fee. And you'll get the new shoe wants return you will do. Is that after five. Six months or after southbound beds up to you to decide how many is ron. Obviously the divorce shoes you use. And we don't wanna make you as a cosmo nate feel bad. Because you've been you're gonna have a little bit bigger footprint than you try to use the shoot along alright but that's okay. I mean it's up to you if you run yet regularly you probably only had two stages who after six months so so. Hang on a minute. So you have a subscription model coming for trainers trainers made from beans ha and that's a visa. The thing is are they going to be as good as the trainers you could buy and not have to send back we always said the highlights so our aim is not that they are screwed is our models cyclone is to be petco. Not only in terms of sustainability but also performance. Look one one way. One st louis to to so to speak to get sustainable in shoemaking is to cut pound on both parts and in cyclo. It's totally to pau in the best way. Maybe maybe it's four parts of the shoe if you don't get the shoe now pay store is made maybe out of fifty seventy different pots and as we know you have to solve this year. Yes to die here. Call us active clues and all that so you can have only three two two two four pots. I think you can make your own math right. That by itself takes sustainability to the next level and then it will weigh from four based materials and bring on like do like beans custom on these been. You even altered up next level because you can then bring it back into a cycle in reuse it over and over again Obviously also they want to be there yarmuth. It's not going to be possibly know once you grind tissue and build shoe out of it. You have to add lead percentage. Maybe it's five at the beginning may be ten percent urging materials abets. That's the beauty of it that we will get better. It's only the style before beautiful trinity. Love that when do you think this will be am i. There are available to us. Mindy had thousands of subscribers that trust listed fetal succeed. That signed up for the subtraction. Already you know aid for the first month so they they really feel do it. And the are the bankrupt on key the team. So research develop the development team. Ace Working very hard to make that happen in. The aim is to her. I who at the end of next year so pretty much twelve month. Oh that's so exciting. So exciting listen. I've got us this year. Obviously with the olympics happening in tokyo would we be seeing many athletes wearing on young out of the big guys yet. But yes you'll have athletes athletes on the track. I think we have some refugee athletes of house from africa. They are competing for shorter distances. Really have also Athletes always on the road. We still hope that some athletes from the uk that responds article on You know have a successful try of also qualified for the olympics. There's still a chance they they can do so but he has the all the. I'll be while ago at three men qualified. Fulfull the marathon. Y'all know marathon. You know the superstar is supreme in romney. Yeah it is. It's the one. I've tried a few times that it's exhausting but sorority at the bluest. Guys make it look easy of got to say and you've just done one Standalone marathon stunt to. You're right standalone shiites. It's only if you add them up. Obviously with all the ironman triathlons eats Would be like thirty. Five full. need so funny enough. What's your what's your mouth and pb alleviate. Because i bet it super fast triathlon. It's twelve forty two in a triathlon auto. Mike it was even my kona. You know that. One year i i felt the okay and there wasn't the couple of degrees colo that it used to be the other years but i'd be good year. So forty korea for issue standalone marathon time without the cycling and the swimming and i think he's through nineteen. Something i do. I think i was twenty two also by accident by side. Now full full for marathon. Actually my bottle signed up but he got seeks so i took his number Stories in the usa. Detroit ekend Adma's that i could run. That fast media was full of tree to four but still. I knew that like awfully light. Things happen that not just by crisis but he would show me that Because for a long time is when you're young you believe you make for the distance might for short of this but that marathon finishing twenty. Show me that that. I fit the for longer distances so that was also the you know the commission that to switch to. This is in fact at listen before before i let you go a livia. I've got to ask you. It's it's a fundamental question. It's all to do with running. Why do you love running so much. Yeah a lot of time right and fifty two now and again. I stopped being a professional fifteen years ago. Look at the life experience that is only a few things that can speak for myself but they turn on all my senses mole five senses minded alani. I put on shoes. I take the steps and i. I've even experienced almost high honesty. I know what foley's getting through. Its day that just is it. Talk to my life on. The bike isn't just my salvage. Just enjoy the view. But you know being with bowtie do with. I never and that's maybe not so favorable to your podcast. But i was never able to listen to podcasts. To music even amazon. Because i won't listen to my body my heart rate by reading the birds you know anything. Cows obviously year long cows. And i want to be in bed eating all that again. Feel my senses. That was again. There's only if you think that can keep me that that experience and the steel nowadays I have a great opportunity. You know running this company. The one of the co founders but also astronomy number one so i get steel detested law allow shoes and as you tops detainees so many more moms coming up so sometimes even my age i vow to keep up running. I sometimes knocking radio basis still while now have the case so that sixty miles a week just just because i because i enjoy but i also have. Y'all know that right ending if you don't know right intensity that doesn't mean you have to go slow for sure that also means that you have to go out all the time but the white defence the more energy that you pay as funny fact. Yeah i agree in fact so many people have now started. Twenty twenty one avenue runner. Have you just out of curiosity. If you've got any tips for new runners starting to keep them going through these dark cold winter months. I mean of course to the doco tunong to our go very easy and solve. Even if you feel like you know. It's one mile of to myers enough mazda off. And they say the wo- can be clean this how he should stop. But i think one of the days is even very experiencing. I talked to some row class athletes. And then i know ca- trading locks and talk to them often see that they recall trading they forget about the core because at the end of the the core is called me not only as an athlete twice. Run the very important but you look at your skeleton. You don't get yourself in the mirror you at all these joints and bones and you know there's one spot that knows where you have only spine and everything else is is not so well connected position last of small of us issue and it will help you in sitting right to ever with post to be spending five office now. Anyway to a match for chris in buses and cars and watching. Tv reading abel's y'all know that but that will support you but when you stop running it your support you dry and you can say beta running style but the more efficient finding signed but then it's also leave less damage and if you stop that makes a difference. I give you saw wanting you feel. That's okay because i was also coach. At some point that i head coach people were close to one hundred fifty keno so that three hundred fifty pounds about five gas so very heavy people but they could do a marathon in iran. Low for hours three ouster the exceed one guy just because they hit a very efficient very upright very almost like a proud way of walking running so it's people forget it's not only lakes. It's not only at all squall only option feed. That's it's really apps us to keep the poster. Absolutely a good tip is a bit. I forget the corbett or needs maybe do a bit more work that and look olivier. Thank you so much for chatting today. A really appreciate it and i hope if you're listening that you've got some some nice tips and also a nice insight into the brand on running too.

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246: The Simple Yet Transformative Power of Breathwork

The Essential Oil Revolution

39:18 min | 2 months ago

246: The Simple Yet Transformative Power of Breathwork

"Piece begins with a smile. Mother theresa empowerment in education too powerful elements. That will help you break. Free of convention transform your passion for wellness to level beyond the status quo the essential oil revolution. Where you're given the tools to supersede an ordinary everyday lifestyle inspiring speakers. Diy recipes healthy living tips. And more you'll discovered all here so tune in and get ready for a wellness. Revolution breed in and breathe out such simple instructions that could transform your entire day or just a moment and sometimes a moment is all it takes for us to regroup recenter and bring ourselves back to that olso elusive present moment. Today's episode we're going to explore all the ins and outs of how powerful breath work can be. Don't worry if that words scares you a little bit. This is gonna lay it out and make it so simple so anyone even if you never even done anything remotely close to breath work or yoga or anything like that. 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I like to just put a drop on my wrist or in joy in the diffuser. Now let's pull a recipe out of our diy dugout week. We pull a recipe out of our dugout. Which has been created by you our listeners. This week's recipe comes from the clay in bradenton. Florida is called feel good smell. Happy to make the feel good smell. Happy blend in a diffuser combined. Seven drops burgum. Oh six drops marjoram three drops tea tree three jobs lemon and two dropped grapefruit essential oil. Thank you so much for your recipe. Laura i love it. I love marjoram. I think it's very underrated oils. I'm really glad that you're that you're blend includes merger essential oil especially. Thank you to all of you who've submitted recipes to the dugout if you haven't yet get it in their diy at revolution oils podcasts. Dot com now onto the show hired him here with jin broil who is an essential oil specialist breath. Work instructor am health coach. She helps individuals restore and optimize their health by calming the nervous system reducing stress and awakening their inner healer. She recognizes that in over stimulated nervous system compromised gut health and suppressed emotions lead to imbalances throughout the mind body and spirit. Jin combines the healing power of breath work essential oils other holistic modalities to help clients create a lifestyle of health vitality and freedom gin and welcome to the show. It's so great to have you here. Thank you mantha here. Who i really wanted to have you on the show because i love this topic of breath work because it's a tool that we all have ray like you don't have to buy anything you don't have to go to the store or train for however long hours to learn how to use your breath to feel better right. It's so powerful it is. It is one of of the things that we have built with. Anna's and you know we just haven't been taught how to use it in certain ways that promotes healing and restoration but yes life giving tool and when we bring awareness to it and consciously breeze we can we can spark so many benefits from that and like you said it's available to us all the time it's free. It's it's an us south one of the easiest things that we can incorporate absolutely so it had a new come to discover breath work in your own life. Yeah so. I got into the holistic health world about ten years ago and like many of us that start down that natural help path oftentimes. It's when we're trying to solve our own health challenges or that of a loved one and that was the case for me. I have been at the time experiencing chronic digestive shoes for a number of years and just never did anything about it just managed at the best i could. And then it started kind of stemming into other symptoms anxiety and hormone imbalances and other things. And at that time you know the my late twenties and i was working in pharmaceutical sale. And i knew. I really believe in that conventional model medicine. That's all i really knew. And i thought it offered all of the solutions to all l. mets. But when it didn't for me i was kind of forced to look elsewhere and i started reading books on nutrition and that led into this whole world of alternative medicine and vocational medicine. Integrative medicine and holistic health and it opens my eyes to all of these other options and solutions and it sparks passion in me and i ended up going back to school to study integrative nutrition and from there i discovered essential oil to j. incorporated into my own daily practice and then currently use my clients because i find them to be so powerful and then through all of that to you know it really is a journey. I stumbled upon breath work after coming up in conversation multiple times and making okay. What exactly is breath work. Like i've heard of like deep breathing and in certain style of breathing what is an actual bradford practice. And so i was out in california. The time and i attended a few different styles of breath work classes and was blown away by the power of breathing in certain pattern for an extended period of time. And what that can do for your mental wellness your emotional wellness physical wellness and just calming the nervous system. Just truly leaving. You feeling just restored and lighter and free and happier just through breathing and though i dove into my own personal bradford practice and through that really felt the call to become an instructor. Share this with other people. Because i think it's something that is not why as widespread needs to be and it can offer so many benefits to just anybody. Yeah i really want to dive into a central breath work and go hand in hand and i know that it's such a beautiful relationship between the two and it can be but but i tell me who could benefit from from breath work and do they need to know anything coming in or you know what can it help. And what can help. It can help so much honestly. The type of breath work that i teach is called. Soma bre you don't need to know a whole lot coming into it. You don't need to train for it. You know you know. We're we're really breathing in a rhythmic diaphragm. Matic form for most of the practice. And then we do some breath holding as well so in terms of what it can help with and and who it can help. I mean everything from from supporting physical health along with emotional health and mental health. So it really helps you know through calming the nervous system getting out of that fight or flight. Response that survival mode. We are able to activate appear sympathetic nervous system and thaddeus estate in which we heal k and and that's a state in which we restore and so so. This breath work really help. Balance the nervous system and get us into that para sympathetic so we can really stimulate healing. We can reduce depression and anxiety. We've became cleanse and purify the bloodstream impacts system. It's also great for people that are in their career and what to enhance their creativity and problem. Stopping or heightened states of consciousness and inspiration. It helps to improve brain function in my power and on an emotional level it really helps to clear negative imprint. Traumas from early life. So we're looking at the ages of zero to seven years. All of these all these impressive that are stored in our subconscious. Mind that we may or may not consciously remember but that are keeping stuck in. Maybe some behaviors patterns that are serving us. It can help clear out those habitual ways of thinking and re imprint our mind with more empowering beliefs and habits and also helps us set intentions in create motivation energy to com complete important. I wanna posner for a second and go back to what you were saying about childhood trauma because i mean all of the re. I worked in the birth industry for a long time in worked with parents in early childhood development. And we i mean everyone across the board all the experts all the research points to early childhood trauma being the number one indicator for long term health in all the areas financial health social economic health emotional health and even physical health. So what you're saying is that you know certain techniques can actually help for people who have had those early childhood traumas yes incredible and and sometimes a memory may come up in the breakfast sometimes not sometimes just emotions will come up and and you can start to clear though the move those in release them and so it is really powerful because when we think of trauma so often we think of these major traumatic events. But that's not necessarily what we're talking about. you know. Everyone of the human being has experienced some degree of trauma and and children especially in those early years. We don't really know how to rationalize certain situations so it may be just how we perceived a certain situation as a child and we perceived it as dramatic when in actuality of your to see that as an adult wouldn't traumatic even birth the action of the whole experience can be traumatic. And even though we don't consciously remember our birth. Some of those experiences are still in in our subconscious remembers everything and so so yes. Breath work allows us to get into the space where we're into in a very deep meditative space where things can start to be released press. Emotions can be released unconscious. Memories can start to be released and so for while for the most part the type of breath work that i teach is very uplifting and you feel a lighter new feel blissful there are times where other emotions come up. You may find it. You know you get your crying and you don't really know why but there's something that is moving inside of you. Something that you're the is being released. Which is really beautiful right. I've been there for a bang and so cleansing okay. so we're grabbing the power. That breath work is immune. It is truly at a very underestimated tool in. My opinion for verges a form and practice of healing. Let's start to paint a picture of how essential oils can tie into the work that we do. I mean i imagine that this could look like a million different ways. What are some of the ways you've incorporated essential oils into this work. Yeah absolutely so. I diffuse oil when i'm doing breath. Why them topically to support. My breath were cracked their beneficial for the emotional processing. They're also beneficial for shifting mindset perception and for physical wellbeing so for example in my personal practice. One of my favorite oils to use for so many reasons is frankencense. Frankencense is very grounding. It's a wonderful oil to use in meditation and spirituality practices. It's fantastic for really helping us get into a meditative state. And then i'll use oils for supporting certain mood or state of being so if my intention for breath work is to boost energy and uplift the mood then i'll use oils. That are going to support that. I heiferman or citrus oils. If my intention is calming the mind and reducing stress than now used calming oil like lavender floral oils or oils. That are grounding cedar witter frankencense. And then i may also want to support the physical breath and the respiratory system so use oil that the are supportive for that like heiferman and eucalyptus and tea tree and lemon and defusing those in the space really helped to enhance that experience. In that intention that you're looking to accomplish. What would you say. Are your top three favorite to us with breath work. Will you said frank. Infants and citrus. But you know when you as just a daily practice like routine. What would be your go-to yeah so frankencense shore and then you're a couple of blends so so my blend for promoting like joy and happiness and boosting energy as a blend that contains tinder and lavender and cleary's age and you lang lang and melissa so so that someone blended all use really for more of an energizing. Uplifting breath work practice and then for a more calming restorative practice. A use a blend is a very calming blend has oil like lavender wild orange and and german and magnolia and neurology so those would be mytalk three. That are kind of my go-to for for breath. Work in what would be the benefits specifically to using essential oils with breath work versus just doing breath rick without the aroma. Yeah absolutely and you can get great benefits just from doing breath work without oil. But i find that the to us together. It really enhance the experience. Because in breath work we're raising vibrational energy. Were getting out of a low vibration state of That nece victimhood blame comparison frustration and stress and moving into a higher vibration of gratitude abundance love unlimited possibilities in healing and essential oil help raise the vibration of the physical body and as a lives and higher vibrational states than these lower energy such as suppressed emotions become unbearable and the body wants to release these feelings and so we see that segment anger and sadness and grieving judgment and low self worth cannot exist in the environment of balance and tease which essential oil as well breath work really helped to create. And you know emotional. Healing starts to occur as these old feelings surface and then release but essential oils by themselves. Don't necessarily do the work for us. They what they're doing it. They're fostering the right environment and we need a tool like breath work to really hope that happen so combining essential oils with a practice like rats. 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Do you think that you could walk us through a of breath work like a little sneak peek into the soma breath work practice and what that looks like. Yeah absolutely so. I'll explain the three main phases of the bradford practice. And what i love about so much is that were were breeding to some incredibly powerful music and the music is so much of it because it just really gets into that space and what we're doing. We're breathing beads to the music because with our breath if we're breathing properly where we are breathing in a consistent rhythm but most often that is not the case because our breath has been hijacked by stress and so we may find if you tune into your breath at any given point in time. You may find that. You're breathing really fast or shallow or your breathing very irregularly like you take a deep breath and then you take a short grab and it's kind of over the place or maybe that you're holding your breath without realizing it and that kind of a radical reading just perpetuates more stress and so what this breath practice helps do it helps us learn how to breathe properly and just through breathing in rhythm to beat of music. And so we're slowing the wrath or breathing from the diaphragm. Were breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth and when you do this for an extended period of time you naturally like you will feel it you feel yourself start to calm down and over a full breath work session. You're able to just kind of get into this. Blissed out state of medication and just opening your heart and letting things go and so we usually start a practice with something to lose another body. Release some tensions. So i may just open it up for people to move their body in a way. That feels good so all. Play some music you can. You can dance. You can do whatever to start to loosen up the body and then we lie down and a full breath work session which my sessions are an hour long. It's best to be lying down. Undistracted with your eyes closed and will start off with short guided meditation to really get us into that space and in the music is playing and we start with a rhythmic breathing and we'll breathe in different rhythms. But the most common one is end for horan out for four. So you breathe in two three four through the nose out two three four through the mouth and in two three four out two three four again. We're doing this to music. Which helps us keep the pace and are you doing this. Are people hearing you are you. There live with people can audio. They listened to so. I do like sessions online and leads right now. They're they're online although do them in person but yet guiding and guiding you through this and we're doing a meditation the beginning then we start the breathing and i'm helping guide you through the breathing. I usually count you off in the beginning but there's also breathing sounds and sometimes counting built in the music as well so it helped keep you on pace and throughout the breathing. I'm talking as well. In using affirmations amusing visualization to really help to start reprogram the mine with more empowering beliefs and imprint and at the end of rhythmic breathing cycle will go into a breath retention phase. And so i would invite you to take a deep breath alea and and fully al and hold your breath and in this breath retention phase. You're holding your breath for as long you can and if you get an are sabrina. You can take a quick breath in and out and continue to hold but this is the time where you go deep into a meditative state and you can start to reprogram your subconscious mind. This breath As has physical health benefits as well reducing a lower oxygen environment makes you more efficient at producing energy. We're putting a positive response on the bodies over time. It makes you more resilient to stress so you can handle your daily daily tasks more easily without being shut out by them as is a really powerful as and. Here's where. I will start to say affirmations out loud. And you'll kind of say them in your mind as you're in this meditative state and so we're really just bring in empowering beliefs here and then after that breath hold l. Invite you to take a deep breath billion in you. Hold your breath on the inhale. We also do called a moola bundle lock. So would that is as you're contracting your pelvic floor muscles and you can imagine that you are moving some of the stuck energy that is in your root chakra after sign into the mid brain and i usually say you know imagine a beautiful white light radiating from your third eye and when we hold this breath on the inhale and shoot that energy up we are experiencing a rush of blood flow and oxygen to the brain or stimulating. The production of these feel good neurotransmitter serotonin dopamine. This is very energizing. Exciting and we hold our breath for short period of time here than we let it go. We act holy and then we go back into another rhythmic breathing cycle and so a full breath. Work class would consist of three to four cycles of this rhythmic breathing breath holding and so by the end you hove experienced something remarkable. You've gone on a journey and the testimonials that i receive right after breath work session earn credible. 'cause everyone feels lighter. They feel free they. They feel uplifted. They feel blissful maybe they had some emotional experiences where they were able to release some stuff and they just they feel really peace and so the always find to hear people's responses after just how good they feel and then for a daily practice doing two rounds of this ten to twenty minutes is a great daily practice. So that's what it consists of and quite amazing to think that you can go so deep just through the breath It's like a key to the portal of your soul. Such a good way to see it. Is it really is in a lot of my breath. Work sessions you know. Say those those kind of words you know enjoy this moment of stillness as you get to the essence of your soul because you really really are tapping into the space. Well i was visualizing you know you walking me through this and just what that would feel like it just seemed like it feels extremely restorative. It's a very kind of eastern sounding practice. I'm curious if you run into a lot of opposition and barriers for for more western cultures. Being like this this feels weird or awkward or you know. I'm not used to this kind of language or the sort of intention on these heavy level deeper level beings. Yeah yeah and that's a great question. When i became an instructor. I kinda. I did think i would run into some opposition just because it's not super widespread. I'm here in dallas texas and there's a lot of people don't really know what breath work is but i've been really surprised at hogan people are to trying it out and i think there is a comfort in knowing that i had to do with breath. You know that's all there is to it and once one has experienced it one time they want more and um and so i think that is the beauty in it is is. It is all about nebraska. But you're right. It comes from you know these ancient techniques prom yamaha and yoga is very rooted in eastern ancient eastern traditions. But knowing that all you have to do is breathe. I think that is comforting to people that may not know what is all about. We'll tell me more about your sacred breath community that you run. yes absolutely. My acre breath community is a membership for people. Want to learn more about brad. Work dive deeper into a breath. Work practice and i created this community after teaching a lot of breath work classes both in person and online and just the feedback and the responses that i got and how people were expressing that they wanted access to more online sessions and also tools to be able to incorporate their own breath or practice on a daily basis. And so that's what this community is about. It gives you access to live online breath work classes throughout the month every month and it also includes audio breath work meditations that are shorter in length. They're ten to twenty minutes. And so that's great for a daily practice in these these audio sessions you can download them and listen to them in your own time and create your own personal breath. Work practices and the community also includes different breeding techniques for different purposes like a detox defying breathing techniques again a relaxing breathing techniques breathing technique to improve digestion. So lots of different breathing techniques in there that you can start to incorporate as well and then community so connecting with other people that are learning about breath work and incorporating breath work and so it gives you the community aspect but also the guidance and the support in the accessibility to really benefit from building record practice and creating that consistency in your practice. It sounds wonderful. I'm always a big fan of people learning together and coming together in community of law. Because i believe that healing really can't happen just alone you really need deserve and you benefit so much from being around other people who are on a similar journey who are cheering you on and there's just so much magic and synergy that can happen when you're you're in like the right type of community. I think so. That sounds useful. This is all been wonderful. Jen thank you so much. I've learned so much. And i can't wait to really break out my oils again and start doing the more breath work along with the oil exercise. I mean they're so powerful. Why not right so before you go. We always love to ask our guests these closing questions and the first is just. What's one or two self care practices. You do every day to stay well. I assume breath for his part of this. But is there anything else that you try to do. Each day yet. Breath work for sure but then also getting outside sitting in the sun connecting with nature. Either going on a wa or simply just going out on yard in bare feet and grounding into the earth and reconnecting so. Those are things i i try to do on a regular basis. Yeah i'm guilty of like getting cooped up in my house all day. When i'm especially if i'm working on a project like right now i'm out to launch a new project and i've just been in my office cooped up in front of my computer and it's beautiful outside and i live in beautiful mountains and like i was realizing today i was like oh windfall. Last time i went outside. I need to do that. And it's so simple. And i'm a big fan of grounding as well so yeah just getting outside getting your bare feet touching the ground even just for ten seconds right. It doesn't have to be complicated. And it makes such a big difference will finally didn't what's just one thing we should all ditch completely replace with something healthier today. Let such a good question. So i think the feeling that we need to be plugged in all the time. It's something we need to ditch us. Feel that way to constantly check email and social media and watch the news and it really becomes an addictive behavior. That i feel is oftentimes rooted in fear. And then also numbing. There's fear of missing out on something either in your job or social life for the news. And then i feel a lot of times you know. Social media becomes a numbing. Gently numbing our emotions by mindlessly scrolling. The news feed and while it is important to know what's going on. In our world mainstream media feeds on fear and share stories that induce more fear and with social media Seems to be like highlight. Reel so you end up getting caught up in the comparison game and ultimately feeling worse. So you know to replace some of that. I'm not saying disconnect from everything forever and never get on electron again but being constantly plugged in from the minute. You wake up to the minute you go to bed is frying. You're nervous as dumb. And so this is where we can set healthy boundaries. So setting times that you're online for work. Having a cutoff time for taking email limiting your social media time shutting off all electronic devices wanted two hours before bed not checking email right away when you wake up in the morning you know limiting your news time and ideally not watching the news at night before bed and instead using some of that time that you freed up to implement self care practices that ultimately calm your nervous system like meditation prayer. Rapper journaling gentle exercise and cooking healthy food and reading a book or connecting with a friend so innings. Just maybe changing priorities a little bit and setting more boundaries. Around the time that were in. I could not agree more. I i am a big fan of turning off all alerts off of your own. My phone is almost always on the. Do not disturb mode right so that i'm not hearing those beeps in those bleeps all the time and having your phone. It's such a powerful tool. I mean i run my business through my phone os so much gratitude to technology and what it's allowed me do and support my family but i tried to approach it on my time and my terms right. I'm going to go to my phone when i want to take action. I wanna do something not when it just bleeps at me and tries to grab my attention. There's there's a big difference there for sure. Yes yeah taking your power back around. That i love that. Yeah absolutely and i have to also echo the social media. I mean especially if you're out there if you're someone that's really dealing with depression or anxiety. I mean social media is the last place you want to go. I'd say there's so many other ways that you can lift your spirits that require you to go on social media because that scroll can kill so many dreams it can make you compare and despair it and it doesn't have to be that way but you know you have to go at it. This crystal clear intention and almost like self confidence and not not many people. Have that ray mike. We all struggle without some sometimes so recognizing that and and recognizing how you feel before and after you go on social media can sometimes help with that a lot. Yes absolutely well said. I can't thank you enough. This has been a blast. And i've learned so much so thanks again for coming on and sharing your wisdom with this here on the essential oil revolution. Where's the best place where people to go and connect with you. If they want to go further into the work you do absolutely and thank you samantha. For having me on this was such a pleasure but yeah. I would love to connect with you. You can find me on my website. It's jen broil dot com. And you can connect with me there. You can contact me through my website if you have any questions. If you're wanting to learn more about the sacred breath community that is jim. Broil dot com board slash sacred dash breath and i am offering seven day free trial to that so the west is the best place in of course we just talked him out downside of social media and find me on social media of a thirteen jan breughel connect with that way as well. Yeah i am not anti social media in any way. But i'm all about intentional. Social media right so follow. People like john follow people that are adding positively to your feed ray. And if there's someone that's not doing that for you just you know that following them. It's that simple often. We'll we'll put a link to your website and everything that you mentioned just below the show notes for today's episode and make it really easy on everyone thanks again. It's been a blast. Thank you thanks so much for tuning in everyone. Hey do me a favor. If you've got just two minutes right now to leave our show a rating and review on itunes or wherever you are listening. It's a great way to show your love and help our show get found by more people who need this information will catch you next week with a new episode here on the essential oil revolution. I'm samantha we keep on learning keep on discovering and most importantly keep on treating yourself. Well you are worth it.

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