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"manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"It never goes downhill. Bus ticket showed up at her apartment unannounced. And yeah, it didn't go well. I mean, she let me stay for the night, but thank goodness. Yeah. She's like, you got it. You got to get out of here. It wasn't as romantic as you had played back in your head. You know what, though? OK, what is the line, though? Because this actually made me think of another situation I was in like last year. A relationship of mine ended because my boyfriend lost his visa and had to move back to the UK. And I think I am definitely more of an emotional person. And he was very logical. And I was all for doing long distance and really trying to make it work. And he was like, realistically, like, how is this going to work? Like, it was very black and white. And I think everything he said made sense. And I don't fault him. But I do also believe if two people are really committed to something and in it, they can make something work. And maybe that's me being having the fantasy. I don't know. What's the line? Because it's not necessarily ideal to live our lives with no fantasy either. The fantasy is OK, as long as it kind of exists within the bounds of trust. So, for instance, like flying to France to meet a guy that you've never met before. Like, you don't know this person. They could be an ax murderer like it's that's unreasonable. You know, whereas if you've been dating somebody for five years and they move to France, then, yeah, flying out there totally makes sense. You know, maybe that will reignite something. Maybe that maybe that will lead to a conversation that could create something. It's one of those things where the relationship kind of has to earn the fantasy. It has to earn the right to the fantasy. The fantasy can't save a relationship. It has to like magnify what's already there. And there needs to be context. I think like in history, I think like we think the big romantic gesture can save it. And then if it works in the movies. Yeah, that's where we've got this idealistic version, right? It's like we think that, like you said, if your story was a movie that you took a bus to see your ex, that would not have ended probably the way it ended. And that's what gives us this false hope and ideas. Yeah, we've talked about fucked up relationships. I think now is a good time to talk about healthy relationships and some takeaways and parting advice. Before we get into that, Mark, do you believe everyone's just inherently fucked up? Yes, absolutely. Okay, boom. All right, there we go. There's the takeaway done. Mic drop. We're all fucked up. I saw an interview of an artist that I'm a fan of once, and he had like the best description of love that I've ever seen. He said, true love is when two people with complimenting pathologies meet. That's brilliant. I love that. Well, I guess that's a good question though. It's because we do want to leave this on a positive note. It's like if everyone is fucked up, what are some ways that we can start? I mean, we talked about boundaries, we talked about being realistic and fantasy, but what are some other ways that you can start kind of taking ownership and having healthy relationships? I strongly believe that the healthiness of your relationships is going to be a reflection of your emotional healthiness yourself. I mean, the first thing that anybody can do is just start getting right with themselves. Start dealing with their own problems individually. Go to therapy, read books, meditate, do whatever you need to do to get to a good spot yourself. Because this is kind of the problem that you were alluding to earlier. If you feel like you need somebody to compensate for how bad you feel yourself, it's never going to turn out well. You need to feel good yourself and then partner is simply somebody who adds to that. I think also you talked about in the audible original about just having the courage to love. I think that actually is really important and something we've talked about on other episodes too is I think a lot of times some of this game playing and some of this setting up a boundary to see if they're going to break it and follow through, whatever that may be. A lot of that is a distraction of finding love and having that courage. How do people break through and have that courage? It's hard because it's proportional to a willingness to be hurt. Ultimately, I think people will go through painful breakups. I get a lot of emails, especially from younger people who have just had their first heartbreak. We all remember our first heartbreak. We thought the world was going to end, but it doesn't. In fact, you end up being much better for it. I try to remind people of that, that it's actually going through that experience and seeing that the world doesn't end, seeing that there are other people out there for you, seeing that you can survive on your own, that you can be happy on your own. That's what gives you the courage to say, you know what? I'm going to take this leap with this person and see what happens. I hope it goes well, but if it doesn't, I'll be fine. That allows you to engage the relationship from a place of confidence and strength. I always say that love can't be found, it can be felt. I say this a lot because I feel like by people saying, I'm here to find love, it's like an object that just exists in the road and you just find it and somehow you take it in. But to feel love, you have to feel it from within. When you feel love, you are putting the accountability on yourself to do that and not just trying to find it somewhere. It really goes hand in hand with our conversation where, yes, love is not enough, but love is the beginning of you putting yourself out there to at least open to feeling that. Once you feel that, how do you constantly choose to feel the love and work on your relationship? I love that and that's a great way to kick off takeaways. I think the other big takeaway I had from this conversation is also just understanding why you're doing certain things. For example, if you're living in a fantasy, is that because you're just afraid to be in love? Are you afraid to bring love into your life? What is the root of where this is coming from? I think the other big takeaway is if you're in an unhealthy situation, it's better to confront that reality and either work your way out of it. I think that was reassuring that it doesn't necessarily be that you're in a toxic relationship, it needs to be toxic forever. But I think having again the courage, it all comes back to courage, to be able to say, okay, well, if I do bring this up, I state my needs, I say what I need in a relationship and they're not willing to meet me or have a conversation, I'm okay walking away from this. I think that courage is equally as important as the courage to actually find love. Absolutely. Yeah, that's really fantastic. My biggest takeaway from something you said, Mark, and it just blew my mind. I wrote it down in big capital letters, fix versus evolve. Can we just simmer on that for a sec? Because we always say, oh, I have this problem, even just like your own personal development problems. I have a problem that I'm always late. I need to fix that problem. Fixing seems so drastic because it's turning one action and you're fixing yourself and going the flip side, going a perfect 180. It doesn't happen like that, but evolve is so different. Visually to me, it seems like you're climbing a different hill and just making those small baby steps. In relationships too, it's not about fixing your problems and your issues, it's about evolving from them. I think that is the most brilliant way to distinguish how we can evolve as a couple. I also love this idea of identifying the fantasies you've had, whether they're positive or negative. In fact, maybe all fantasies have a negative impact because they're not reality. So maybe just even plotting out your love history and seeing what were some of the disconnect. What did you want to happen? Identify that as a fantasy and identify what the reality was. And then you were able to find that delta of, oh, that's where that fantasy came from. Okay, that's where my fantasy was and that's where the reality was. I would do that today. That's a great action item for people. And I'll even throw in my own takeaway. Yes, I do. One thing that was cool about the fantasy thing from the project was I realized that this is something that we all do and it's something that we all continue to do. Even though I'm happily married, I've been married for years now, I noticed that even within my marriage, I create these stories or these fantasies of what a marriage is supposed to be. What is a husband supposed to do? What is a wife supposed to do? And over and over again, I realized, wait, that's not necessarily true. Why do I think that is true? Why am I assuming that? Why do I think that I need that to be happy? And so it's a lesson that is born out of the dating world, but it continues to be valuable even in committed relationship land. Well, Brene Brown, she does this with her husband too. So I agree, it doesn't end on dating at all. But her thing is when there's something that she's feeling uncomfortable with, she'll say to him, the story in my head is X. And it's really putting out there that this is how I'm feeling right this minute. That might be completely invalid, but let's just talk about it. Let's have an open communication and see if this is valid or a total fantasy. And I think that's a great way to build a healthy relationship. Like we talked about earlier, it all comes down to how you navigate conflicts. So putting that stuff out there and being vulnerable with it is a great way to go from something that might feel more toxic or fantasy land or whatever it is to healthy. And this is so much about what you've done in Love Is Not Enough is hearing these people talk about what they're going through and just hearing them speak. I feel like they've started to resolve their own issues because sometimes you just have to put it out there in words or on paper. And when you read it or view it from a third party's perspective, it becomes so much more clear. I think that goes back to the whole evolution piece too. And we're talking about this and we all shared our own situations too. No one is immune to this. Everyone has been in less than ideal situations or situationships, as we mentioned. And I think you kind of have to go through it. It lets you see what you'll never stand for again. And I think until you've had these experiences, I think where it becomes toxic is when you keep having the same experiences over and over again and not learning from it. But also cut yourself some slack if you have had one of these situations because it's OK. You got to have them to learn from them. Mark any parting advice for daters out there who want to be in healthy relationships today. Well, considering we're in quarantine. Start fantasizing, quarantine love. Yeah, that whole thing about fantasy. Take the next couple months and fantasize like crazy. I don't know. It's hard today. I think it's become such a more complex world since I started writing dating advice years and years ago. But I think the core principles hold true. And I think it's ultimately the biggest challenge today is less of the tactics or the nuts and bolts of dating. I think a lot of the problem today is simply getting clear on screening for the right person and knowing your values, knowing what you want in your life, knowing what you will and will not stand for. And then use the abundance of connection today to start filtering aggressively to find people who match those things. So using video calls to scream. I mean, another quarantine, you could use this time to self reflect like this is a really good time to put dating a little on the back burner. Not to say you can't do the video calls, but maybe it's really getting clear with looking at your past list of fantasies, the idea, the action item, or even just like what you just said of really pinpointing what is it, the core values that really are essential for you. Yeah, that's step number one. Yeah, I've writing a lot about the last few weeks about how people should use this time to evaluate themselves, evaluate their lives, what they want in their lives, what they don't want in their lives. And so I think that's a huge first step. It will, if this thing ends up going on for a long time, obviously people will want to start dating again at some point. So it could start to get super interesting, but I don't think we're there yet. I think right now I agree. It's focus on yourself first. Date yourself. There you go. Maybe only yourself if you're quarantined with yourself.So before we wrap this up, can I just bring it back to the Meatloaf song? Because I never really thought about the lyrics because I would just sing literally the chorus, which is I would do anything for love. But then he says, but I won't do that. What do you think that refers to? Because to me, I'm like anal. I don't know. I would do anything for love, but nope. I won't do that. I mean, every time I've heard this song, my mind has gone to very dark fucked up places. So murder. I won't. Maybe all this time he was just helping be ambiguous so everyone could figure out what their own that is. There you go. Wow. So deep. Or it was anal. I don't know. He's like, fuckers. I just wanted to talk about anal. That's all. Meatloaf, the dating guru. Thank you so much, Mark, for being part of this conversation. For anybody who would love to listen to A Love Is Not Enough, you can download it on Audible and you can find out more information at MarkManson.net. Thanks for having me, guys. So we'll wrap this up. Stay datable. The datable podcast is part of the Frolic Media Network. Find more podcasts you'll love at frolic.media slash podcasts. You can follow us on Instagram at datable podcast and visit datable podcast dot com for access to all the episodes and our premium programs. Also, make sure to subscribe today if you haven't already on Apple podcast, Spotify or your favorite podcast platform. So you are the first to get all the latest episodes and most importantly, stay datable. It's all too obvious we're being let down by the institutions we used to trust. 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"Down to the middle and upper 50s overnight. Monday News at 10 and 40 past the hour brought to you by PenFed. Great rates for everyone and let's check in with Jeff Claybaugh. Ford's US pickup truck sales last quarter were up 15 % from a year ago despite lower demand for its electric F -150 Lightning. Disney is cutting the price of children's admission at Disneyland and Disney World as attendance slows. Washington Business Journal says Metropolitan Square, a 650 ,000 square foot office building near the White House, has sold for $305 million, likely a record this year. The Dow gained 127 points Wednesday. The Nasdaq up close to 1 .5%. Jeff Claybaugh, WTOP News. Asia Pacific markets are rallying. They're up between 0 .5 % and 1%. Pope Francis has opened a big meeting of bishops over the future of the Church. Among the controversial topics are whether priests can marry, if women become can deacons, and whether priests can bless same -sex marriages. Jamie Manson, a women's rights activist and devout Catholic, says the change opens the church tent for LGBTQ couples, like her and her partner of four peers. Affirming and embracing everyone only makes the Church stronger. It is a very slim minority of Catholics who are opposed to same -sex unions. That's what they wish, but it's not. Fr. Gerald Murray is a conservative priest from Manhattan. For the Pope to say that priests and bishops can find way a to do this, it's wrong. He shouldn't do it. CBS News foreign correspondent Chris Livesay with that report, reporting from Rome tonight. Still ahead on WTOP, a story so disgusting you may never fly Again, that's clearly an exaggeration, but do stay with us to find out about germs on a plane and what do you can to protect yourself. It's 1042. For more than 50 years, KBR science and engineering expertise has enhanced our ability to explore, examine, and understand the universe. As a leading provider of technology solutions both on and off the planet, no company is better equipped to solve the challenges of mission critical operations and health technology than KBR. From launch to landing and everything in between, we are the team behind the mission. For more information and career opportunities, visit
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"manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"Yeah, because a fantasy, by definition, is being detached from reality. But we kind of think, oh, if I'm fantasizing about something, it must be something really positive. Yeah, it must be really good. Yeah, that's fascinating. And so we've talked about the three characters, right? I'm calling them characters. They're real people. The three subjects that you had. Can you give us quick summaries of the other two? Sure. The other two, one is a 30-something-year-old man from Utah named Mike. And Mike is Mike's the best, man. Talk about detached from reality. Yeah, I want to meet him. He's a great guy. I mean, he's one of those guys that you actually start kind of feeling bad for him, I think, about halfway through. Because originally, he came to me. He was like, man, I can't get off Tinder. I'm just like addicted to Tinder. And I was like, okay, you know, all right. Like, I think I did a preliminary call with him, like, let's see where this goes. And he just ended up being such a character that I was like, oh, my God, I have to talk to this guy. And so, yeah, I mean, he's just completely deluded. He bought his ex-girlfriend a house to try to get her back. I'm like, insane. Was he the one that would like fly all over the place for like a first date? Was that the same guy? Or I had to talk him down from that. You're like, no, don't fly across the country for a first date. Talk about the fantasizing, right? Yeah. And it's funny, too, because he's, you know, on paper, you would never assume that. Like, he's a button-up corporate guy from Utah, Republican, like very manly, renovates his own house and builds his own drywall and all this crap. And he's just like the most rampant fantasizer and romantic maybe in the entire project. You know what we get? People that reach out being like, is it a good idea that I go to, like, France and meet up with this guy for a weekend? Like, this definitely... If you want to go on a trip, go, but don't go because you think that this is going to happen. And like, they're like, yeah, but he doesn't want to do long distance, but should I still go anyways? And we're like... Yeah, they keep creating excuses for the other person. I always say, stop being someone's publicist because that's not your job. You need to stop defending them and making them sound so good. It's amazing how... And I mean, these are usually, like, they're smart people, right? They're like, they're very competent in other areas of their lives, but it's just amazing how for a lot of us, I know I was the same way for a long time. Like, my IQ just gets cut in half. And I'm like, yeah, it sounds like a great idea. Let's go do it. No, it's horrible. I mean, I think it is the fantasy that all you need is love, like what we talked about earlier. Because I mean, I've definitely experienced that too is like, I thought no matter how much I love someone, like all the other problems didn't matter. Like, I could make... I could fix it, right? I know we don't like the word fix, but I actually thought that for a while that... Julie, can you give us an example of a time you did that? I can think of one in particular. This is when I was in New York. I was in love with this guy. And we broke up because I was being crazy on my own. And I thought that if I would run into him on his way out of work, that we would have this encounter and we would slow-mo run into each other's arms and say that we love each other. So I literally would walk past the street every day around 6.30 knowing he got off work around that time hoping to run into him. Never did, thank God. He would have definitely known I was a stalker. But in my mind, I kept thinking, we just need that one more chance encounter. When the universe brings us together in his eyes, we will fix everything and everything will be perfect. Yeah, I mean, I think my example is a little different, which is actually good because it can show the extreme differences of how this shows up in people's lives. But like, I was in a relationship for over a year with someone that I really truly loved and he loved me as well, but he just had other things going on in his life, like in terms of just challenges he was facing that was totally external to our relationship that prevented it from getting to that next level, like of getting married, moving in together, all of that. And I think for so long, I thought I could fix those problems. And the problems were things he really had to do on his own. And I just couldn't, like it just wasn't possible. So yeah, I think it really can range to like what you were just saying, UA, having this fantasy of like running in and saving the day versus being in something really thick with someone where two people, like I do strongly believe in my heart that we both really do love each other. It just didn't work because love is not enough. Yeah, right person, wrong time. My fantasy story is pretty similar to yours. That first girlfriend, that toxic relationship. So, you know, like most toxic young, especially young toxic relationships, we we broke up and got back together like five different times. I think actually it was the last breakup and we were doing long distance because we had ended up, we went to different universities. That last breakup, I was like, you know what? I'm not going to stand for this. I'm going to like show her that I love her and that, you know, I'm committed to this and blah, blah, blah. And so I got, I didn't tell her anything. I got on a bus, sat on a bus for eight hours. He started with a bus. Bus is never a good idea.
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"We are on a fast track to an omnibus bill and it is difficult to oversight champion when house Republicans haven't even sent a subpoena to Hunter Biden. make So it's the hard to argument that oversight is the reason to continue when it sort of looks like failure theater, failure theater, Bonnie and Clyde are doing the impression of the Republican caucus. Goodness. So was that Matt Gaetz saying that the impeachment hearings have been a complete failure? Okay. Yes. All right. They all hate each other. It's fantastic. Oh, they also all tape each other. This is fantastic. Yes. Tennessee Republican is accusing Kevin McCarthy of mocking him for praying. And so he Yeah. So, uh, yeah, he was on CNN timber chat. A Republican of Tennessee was shown a video clip of McCarthy in which he denied ever mocking Burch at for praying over his vote on whether to house McCarthy house is speaker. He said, heck, I have a recording of his son, meaning he recorded conversation with Kevin. So that's why he didn't. He voted to. He won't talk about it. Yes. I'm sorry, but like I just find this so shocking. What exactly did he say to mock your faith, sir? It really doesn't matter. It was just the fact that I had publicly stated on your station, I think this morning that I, that I was praying about it and I was, you know, I had two paths to go either go with my or friend go with my conscience. And I was praying that God would tell me what to do, which he does. Yeah. What would Jesus do? Jesus would go to vacate. Oh, after right he got finished appearing in court with Trump. Did you see that sketch that Trump put out of him, Jesus sitting next to him in court? Yeah, I think Jesus would say he had a thing with a guy. Yeah. A court thing. Yeah. I don't. Well, that's why. Wasn't it? Karen yesterday said that wasn't Jesus or suited. That wasn't Jesus. That was Charles Manson. Charles Manson. Yeah. It did look like Charles Manson. OK, one more per chat when someone mocks me like that and mocks my religion. And honestly, the was pretty clear about God being mocked. So I bet that that that's what sealed it right there for me. I said this is not that this is not the quality or the character of person that I want as speaker of the United States. You Well, know I totally believe McCarthy mocked religion. I can we just say one more time, fight, fight, fight, fight. Big bag of brats. You're all so unbelievably awful. Like you're all like small fruit snowflakes, your little rat snowflakes. You're all equally awful in different unique ways. McCarthy was so bad at his job that He mocked a person whose vote he desperately needed. Yes. Yes. I I don't get how you can be that bad at your job. Well and on the douche canoe scale apparently Apparently the acting speaker is trying to out douche, the head douche canoe, the departing douche canoe. Kevin McCarthy there he goes up the river. Goodbye douche canoe. We've been talking about this all morning, I but still just can't. I can't. Okay. Representative
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"manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"Yeah. Anytime you gamify anything in relationships, you're ruining it. It's what you just said reminds me of when I wrote my men's dating book, it's called Attract Women Through Honesty. I used to get emails. When it first came out, I used to get emails from guys. And this is back when the whole pickup artist thing was going on. And I used to get emails from guys and they're like, hey, Mark, read your book, was really cool. But I tried the whole honesty thing. Didn't work, man. It's like it totally didn't get laid. You are missing the point. You are doing it wrong. Oh my God. I think that though, that ties into this whole, like you brought this up in the Audible original of like this holding onto a fantasy. And I do think that is part of why people don't want to create the boundary. How do you think like this idea of pretending like things are going to work out or pretending like things are great or you, I don't know, can see a future with someone that might not be in your life at all, whatever that fantasy is. How do you think that is destructive to people? The fantasy thing was really interesting. So when I went into this project, it was pretty obvious that there are going to be a few themes just because I've been writing about this stuff for so long. So I knew boundaries were going to come up. I knew vulnerability and honesty was going to come up. That always comes up. The fantasy thing was really interesting because that was the one thing that I started connecting the dots on that as the project went on, I started to realize. So there was one woman who came in, her issue was specifically around fantasy. She actually like compulsively fantasized about another woman who was not her partner. And it was causing all sorts of stress and problems in her life. And at first I was kind of like, oh, she's a little bit of the odd ball here. Everybody else had boundary issues and honesty issues and self-esteem issues and all this stuff. And then you've got this one woman who's just got this fantasy thing going on. But as the project went on, I started to realize that all these other people had fantasy issues too. It's just that their fantasies weren't as, I guess, obvious. So there's one man in it who, his name's Jerry. And he's twice divorced. And both divorces were catastrophic. He's got some PTSD type things going on from them. And he's in his first new relationship. And he's really into his girlfriend. And he's literally afraid to tell her that he thinks it's too cold in the room. Because talk about walking on eggshells. He's terrified to even tap his toe on an eggshell. Because he's just so traumatized from his past divorces. He doesn't even have eggs in his room. And I started to realize that it's like, wait, Jerry's got fantasy going on too. Which is, in his head, the fantasy is, if I ask to turn the AC down, my girlfriend's going to get angry at me. That's completely irrational and unreasonable. It's just as detached from reality as some of these other fantasies. And so I started to notice this in other people I was talking to. And I'm like, huh. And then, of course, obviously, you think about the love and romance thing and the Disney fantasy of living happily ever after and everything. And so fantasy ended up becoming one of the central themes of the project. We fantasize a lot about love. And we invent these stories in our heads about our partners, about our relationships, about people we want to date or people we think who would be perfect for us. And a lot of times, these fantasies are, A, completely detached from reality. And so they end up hurting us a lot. B, a lot of times, they're a defense mechanism. They're a way to protect ourselves from having to face reality. That's fascinating because I always think of it like the Disney. Positive. Yeah, exactly.
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"manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"He upgraded himself to business class while I was in economy. Wait, what? There's feedback that will make you cringe. She could be a little bit hard-headed, like not reading the writing on the wall. And feedback that will make you swoon. When she said that she had feelings for you. I had no idea. Really? And maybe you'll learn a thing or two yourself about how you can be a better dater, lover, or partner. Obviously I knew I was going to learn something. I didn't expect this. Welcome to Exit Interview. Listen to Exit Interview on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Mark, I just had a business idea for you. You need to create a playlist that takes people through this journey. It starts with a John Lennon song. All you need is love. And then you go to Meat Loaf and then you start getting into Nine Inch Nails, Love Is Not Enough. And then you just get into some really real songs. You know, maybe one of the rap songs. But you just take people through a journey. I see many lawsuits in my future. You're like, I'm not going to do that business idea. Yeah, a lot of copyright infringement. How about a private playlist? Just so we can hear. Just for us. Yeah, there you go. So I think one of the things that you talk about a lot is boundaries, which is very important. And I think we hear this over and over again. I guess, how would you define boundaries? Because I think there's something a little scary about the word boundaries. At least I feel that way sometimes. Yeah, I think people kind of recoil at the idea of erecting barriers. You know, we like to have the idea that we can be open about everything and we can love everybody and, you know, it's like life doesn't work that way. Like there has to be a certain expectations of conduct between two people. And at the core of it, I define boundaries as basically being each person takes responsibility for their own actions and their own emotions. And they don't take responsibility for the other person's actions and emotions. And so what you see in a lot of relationship situations is one person is kind of a deadbeat or down on their luck or whatever. And the partner is like, oh, well, I'll get him a job. And I'll pay his rent and I'll make sure, you know, I'm going to send him back to school. And like, just, you know, they started trying to fix the other person. While building resentment at the same time. Totally. And the person being fixed or is building resentment too. It's like their autonomy is being impeded upon. There are a lot of dynamics that play out. One I call the breaker and the fixer. One I call the runner and the chaser, which sounds like your friend. It's when one person is always pulling back from the relationship and the other person is always stepping forward to try to catch them and bring them back. It's a way to kind of experience the feeling of intimacy without actually having to expose yourself and be intimate with somebody. And so when we have porous and bad boundaries, we start developing these patterns with people and the patterns become very destructive. They create a lot of drama. They create a lot of conflict unnecessarily. And neither person is really getting their needs met. So what is an example of like the breaker and a fixer? Like what's a healthy boundary that you could put in place if you're in that situation? So I can call on my own personal history here. You know, my first relationship in my life, I was the fixer and my girlfriend was the breaker. And we were young. We were both very like emotionally dysfunctional. Ultimately, their strategies to feel loved and feel important and feel needed. She found that if she could cause problems, I would come and fix them. And when I fixed them, it made me feel needed and loved. And when I fixed them for her, she felt loved. But the problem is, is that as soon as I fix a problem, well, now she's got to find some something else to break. You know, because it's like, oh, shit, he's not fixing something. I don't know if I'm loved anymore. Here, let me break this. And so it was just kind of the spiral of trauma over and over. And it was just over stupid things. And it kept getting worse and worse and worse. Ultimately, the only way it stops is one of the two people opts out of the cycle. So in the case of a breaker, the breaker would have to say, you know what, I don't want you to fix anything for me anymore. You know, I don't want you to get me a job. I don't want you to pay my rent. I don't want you to try to take care of me. I need to do this myself. And in the case of the fixer, it's saying the flip side of that, which is like, you know what, I'm not helping you anymore. You need to stand up on your own, take care of yourself. I still love you, but you need to be responsible for yourself. And generally in very unhealthy relationships. Like if there's not a whole lot of mutual respect and trust there, as soon as one person opts out, the relationship breaks. And that actually happens with Vanessa. I spend the first couple of conversations with her, spoilers, but I spend the first couple of conversations with her teaching her about boundaries and teaching her how to opt out of these cycles with the married man. And it's funny because she originally came to me and she's like, I don't know how to break up with him. I don't know how to break up with him. I want to get out. I want to get out. And it turned out she didn't even have to do anything. All she had to do was simply stop playing the game. And he immediately broke up with her. It's like, wow, you're done. Well, it kind of goes back to your litmus test earlier. Like if someone's willing to work with you on conflict or not. And a lot of times in these situations, like you just said, they're not willing to work with you. So it just ends. I don't know. If there was a situation where someone felt like they were the fixer and the breaker, but then they had that healthy boundary. And at that point, the two partners were able to work together. Maybe it would turn more healthy. What do you think? I mean, so the alternative outcome is, let's say the breaker's like, you know what? I don't want you to fix my problems anymore. I need to do this on my own. And the fixer is like, oh yeah, okay, that's fine. Because what you're doing is you're relieving the fixer of the responsibility of dealing with all these things. And so both people can sit with that and not freak out and not lash out at each other. Then it actually, that is how you transition into a healthy relationship. Got it. So it's not always doomed. There's a way to turn it around. It can be fixed. Yeah, it can be fixed or I don't like the word fixed. Like it can evolve. And what about with the chaser and the runner? What are some boundaries they can set? I'm not going to chase anymore. In the simple case of the woman we were talking about, she had a guy who's just ghosting her constantly. And I'm like, well, look, be straight up. Do you want to date me? If yes, stop ghosting me. If no, peace. That's a boundary. It's like when you draw a line in the sand and you say, I'm no longer tolerating this behavior and this is what's going to happen. And sure enough, he ghosted her again and it fell apart. Well, I think people have trouble with boundaries because they're afraid of that outcome. I think there's a lot of feeling like, well, at least I have someone, at least I have something going on. And not to say that that's healthy, but I think that's where the boundary creation gets scary. And also you have to know where your intentions for the boundaries come from. You can't set these boundaries hoping for him to say, no, I want to be with you. And then you're super disappointed when he doesn't do that. You actually have to believe in the boundary that you're setting. It can't be a game.
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"A few years ago there was an article that was so popular I think we referenced it on multiple episodes. It was called Fuck Yes or No and it was by an author called Mark Manson and Mark and I, guess what, we have a lot in common. We both started a relationship blog over a decade ago geared towards men and I thought the same thing as you. I thought this is just for male friends. Who's going to read it? Who cares? It's a great platform to just get my thoughts out there and quickly Mark saw his blog grow and soon enough strangers were reading this blog. Many people were coming to this blog. In fact, millions of people were coming to this blog and that's where he is today. He is a self-help author, blogger and entrepreneur. Obviously we reference his very popular article Fuck Yes or No which can be found among many other articles on his website markmanson.net. He's also the New York Times best-selling author of three books, Everything is Fucked, A Book About Hope, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, A Counterintuitive Approach to Living the Good Life and Models Attract Women Through Honesty. What? No fuck in that title? You missed one there. You have the best title names by far. But now he has an audible original called Love Is Not Enough that brings his signature no-nonsense wisdom and a lot of fuck words back to the subject he started his career covering which is about relationships. He's 36 years old, lives in New York City, currently in lockdown, originally from Austin and is married. Mark, in Love Is Not Enough, compare the Beatles song All You Need Is Love and then the Nine Inch Nails song Love Is Not Enough. Why do you think this rainbows and butterflies sort of approach to love that love conquers all is super flawed? I think it's flawed in that we tend to assume that because something feels very good it must be very good. And love tricks us a lot in that way. Like we can fall in love with people who are bad for us. We can fall in love with people who don't treat us well or who are not healthy for us. But it's very hard to be aware of that when you're going through the experience of love or when you are falling for somebody. And so a lot of what I write about in relation to dating relationships is trying to get people to be a little bit more thoughtful, a little bit more self-aware of I guess the broader picture when that is happening. And so I kind of use the Beatles and Nine Inch Nails reference just because it's, you know, the irony with the Beatles is that, you know, John Lennon saying all you need is love, but he like beat his wives and abandoned one of his kids and was just a raging asshole. Yeah. And then Trent up stuff on stage, writes a song called Love Is Not Enough. And if you look at his personal life, he is like the most functional, responsible husband and father in the music industry. So I just thought it was very cool dichotomy. Why do you think our society as a whole idealizes love so much and like thinks it's the solution to all problems? Well, I mean, I guess a very cynical answer to that question is love sells well. It's easy to sell love. We all love to see it. You know, we enjoy romantic movies and we enjoy seeing, you know, the people get together at the end of the movie and all those things. And so I think it's proliferated. You know, one thing that's interesting is that this whole idea that love can solve our relationship problems. It's a pretty recent thing in human history. It's only a couple hundred years old. Most of human history, people were actually very cynical about love. They thought it was as dangerous, if not more dangerous to the relationship than otherwise. Mark, do you personally believe in love? Absolutely. My take on it is that love is like anything else. Like you can, there are healthy forms of love and there are unhealthy forms of love. Like we all do need love. Right. You know, Lennon wasn't wrong about that, but we need to be careful and make sure that the love is serving us and helping us. I also believe love is a choice. It's not that once you fall in love, it just all your issues go away. The dishes that are unwashed in the sink just somehow get cleaned all of a sudden. It's that this choice and constant choice every minute, every moment. And I think sometimes we forget that in relationships. Oh yeah. I think especially like if you're single, you think that suddenly if you're in a relationship, you're going to be happy and it usually doesn't work that way. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So in your audible original, Love is Not Enough, it's so fascinating. You follow five real people over the course of six months and they openly let you record all the issues that they're bringing to you. I think what's so fascinating is you relate everybody's problems back to like their history, their background, their upbringing, because I think sometimes we forget that that's what creates who you are today. There's one of my favorite relationship books is a book by Harville Hendricks called Getting Love You Want. I'm biased. You know, you've seen my book titles, but I think it's a terrible title, but the book is fantastic. It doesn't have fuck in it. It doesn't have fuck. It's not edgy, but it's... He talks about in that book, he talks about how our childhood and our upbringing, our relationship with our parents when we grow up, it kind of writes what he calls our emotional maps or our love maps. And it's basically like how we unconsciously find love in our lives. And so when we keep running into the same dysfunctional relationships over and over again, he says it's map that was written in our childhood pointed at us to the wrong place. And so you have to kind of learn to rewrite that map. And the case with the Audible original, it was important to find out these people's history to kind of get at what their love maps were. But also it's like, I'm talking to these people for about an hour a month and I'm going in completely blind. So I have no idea who these people are. I don't know what their past relationships were like, what their parents were like, where they grew up, anything. So a lot of the early conversations were just me trying to drill down as quickly as possible to look for patterns in their relationships, in their lives. So do you think it goes back to just the way you were raised and just like the mental models you have around love? Or do you think there is other reasons that we settle for these less than ideal situations? I don't think upbringing has ever explained everything. A lot of it depends on circumstances. Dating is often compared to a market and there is a little bit of a market functionality to dating. So depending on the city you're in, your religious beliefs, your political beliefs, your lifestyle, your gender, your sexual orientation, all of those things kind of affect where you're going to meet people, the circumstances in which you're going to meet people. And so I think there's a real kind of practical day-to-day life component that you have to consider as well. One of the people in the project was a woman in her 30s actually here in New York, who's just basically been on a 10-year dry spell. For 10 years, she hasn't had a serious relationship. And one of my first inclinations is like, well, maybe she's just looking in the wrong places. And I mean, yeah, she was on Tinder a lot. And Tinder is pretty notorious these days for having a low hit rate. And that probably was part of it. But at some point, you have to realize like, okay, okay, okay, she's got some sort of pattern here that she's not aware. Right. Well, it sounded like for her too, she was definitely standing for way less than she deserved and taking kind of like crumbs of relationships. And also just waiting for relationships to happen versus her going out and finding the right people. Yeah, it was interesting with her, you know, without spoiling too much. When I was working with her, I really felt like I was spending most of the time like encouraging her to be more proactive. And it's something I generally encourage women to do is to be more assertive and like upfront with what they want and how they feel. But then she was just meeting like the shittiest guys. So I'm like, well, maybe Yeah, actually, maybe it's good that you didn't tell him that you want to relate after all. Why do you think like she kept meeting those shitty guys? And she wasn't able to be like, this is not a healthy situation. This is not good for me. Like what is it that some people cannot recognize? Because I know I've been there before. I've definitely been in situations that looking back, I'm like, why? Why did I do that to myself? And I'm curious what your thoughts are. I think a lot of people and I see this in both men and women. I think a lot of people, they develop like some unconscious patterns or unconscious assumptions about like who they can date and can't who is like an acceptable partner for them and who's not. And I don't even think they realize it. But they kind of self select sometimes for a certain type of person who's just bad for them. And so they feel stuck. They're like, these are the only people I'm meeting, but none of them are good for me when it's they don't even realize that they're overlooking a bunch of other people like very early on in the process without realizing it. Well, what was interesting about her story was her life was a hot mess before and she turned her life around and she thought now's the time for me to attract that right person. So I think she almost assumed that whoever she attract in her new stage in life would be the right person. Yeah. And then, you know, just to even add another layer of complexity on top of that, it actually started infiltrating. She actually started developing like a very negative set of beliefs around men in general. You know, she was like, oh, well, when I was a mess, men loved me. And now that I'm like all put together and have my life in order, men don't want to have anything to do with me. So I guess men are just shit. And she developed like negative beliefs around men that obviously is also not conducive to to having a function. Because if you believe that all men are just like don't have your interests at heart, then you're going to kind of unconsciously select for the ones who don't because they confirm what you already believe. We talk about that a lot. It's like you're looking for a red car, for example, and everywhere now you see red cars. So it's like totally kind of spotted that. And that's what you're seeking out at that point. Yeah, your brain is an evidence finder, not a truth seeker. So your brain is just giving you all the evidence that your narrative is telling you. And this is the narrative we hear from a lot of women who write into our show who say I've worked so hard to get where I am today. I'm so professionally successful. I have great family and friends. I deserve a good man. Why can't I find a good man? There are no good men out there. That's the narrative they keep telling themselves and they keep looking for the bad guys. This is something I say sometimes and it might not be the most politically correct thing, but I think it's true. And as I'm sure you guys believe too, like relationship, it's a skill set. You have to learn these things and practice these things and develop these parts of yourselves. And I guess traditionally, if you look at previous generations, men were always kind of stereotyped as being very emotionally clueless. And it's the classic male gender role was always like, okay, get really good at your career, make a bunch of money. And like all the soft touchy feely stuff, let women deal with it. And with feminism and with all the new gender roles, breaking down barriers and all this stuff, I think maybe there's a little bit of assumption with a lot of women that it's like, okay, well, I worked my ass off on my career, I'm making all this money, but they don't realize that they never developed those emotional skills. So they're actually in a very similar position that men traditionally were in, which is they're super successful, very proud of themselves, high self-esteem, but they never actually learned how to develop intimacy and be in a relationship. A hundred percent. So I think what I love about your Audible original is that you follow people like the woman we were just talking about that kind of stands for less than ideal situations just in terms of men not committing or maybe treating her like a first priority and all that. You also talk about more extreme ones, like a woman that is still dating a married man and some of the things that you traditionally think of. How do you identify when there is a bad situationship is what I was going to say, but that has made me the right word. That actually is the right word, situationship. I was trying to say situationship, but it is situationship, so it just came up by default. Not to rain on your poetic new word, but what do you mean by bad situationship? I don't know. A healthy relationship, right? You think of when there's two very committed partnerships that treat each other like equals and really are giving to each other and taking as much in an equal fashion. Then there's these situations where one person is clearly not getting their needs met and continuing to go after the relationship despite feeling upset the whole time. I've definitely been there. I know logically this is not a good situation, but for whatever reason, you keep doing it. What are some of the ways that you can spot when someone is in one of these unhealthy situations? Toxic relationships. Got you. The other woman you brought up, she's a perfect example of everything that we're talking about. Very high-powered woman, extremely successful in her career, extremely smart, and just stuck in a relationship with a married guy who turned out was borderline emotionally abusive towards her. One of the things that I discovered with her pretty quickly was that she grew up in such a dysfunctional household, such an abusive childhood. That relationship she was in actually felt loving to her. That actually was the most loving relationship she had ever been in. That was eye-opening both for me and for her to realize that. When all you've experienced is dad being drunk and disappearing for months at a time, then sleeping with somebody at work who won't leave their wife for you is like, that's an upgrade. It's all relative, basically. Yeah, but it's still not good, right? It's still toxic. One of the metaphors I use a lot to help people determine whether their relationship is healthy or unhealthy is I think it comes down to conflict. How well you as a couple deal with fighting or disagreements. Generally, what I've found is that couples that are very healthy with each other, the conflict, it has this feeling of pushing a rock down a hill. The more you work on it, the easier it gets. It actually brings you guys together. Whereas an unhealthy relationship, it feels like you're constantly pushing this rock up a hill. The more you push, the more difficult it gets. Then it doesn't matter how far you push it, it's just going to roll back down tomorrow anyway. That's interesting because I feel like there's those situations where you walk on eggshells to what you're saying. Pushing uphill, yeah. Exactly. If your conflicts are never being resolved, that's why you walk on eggshells. If your conflicts actually get resolved and bring you two closer together, then you don't mind having conflict. There's no reason to hide things from each other. If the conflict is just ripping a scab off over and over again, then it's like, okay, I'm just going to shut up and not say anything. This reminds me of, remember Julia told you about a friend of mine and she and her husband fought for two years when they first got married because they welcomed conflict. They got all the conflicts out of the way and now they don't fight anymore because everything's so easy. It's on the table. They just literally got it out of the way and now thinking with this period of pandemic and lockdowns, I think a lot of couples are going to have to face some of these conflicts head on right now. I think though what, Mark, you were saying earlier about how some of it is a skill you have to learn. I think some of it is obviously the partner you're with, but I think a lot of it is yourself too. Because I know from personal experience, I think when I had these more toxic relationships in my life, yes, I probably picked the wrong partner, but I also was not comfortable with addressing conflicts. Over the years, I've just learned to do that through therapy, through this podcast, all these different things. I think some of it is your own mental state and then also finding someone that's at that same state. Totally. This is another litmus test. In a toxic relationship, people tend to bring the worst out of each other. Whereas I think in a healthier relationship, your partner makes you better. They see your weaknesses and flaws and they know how to adapt to it and vice versa. Whereas in a toxic relationship, it makes each of you weaker. Mm-hmm. Your story really resonated with me because I have a lot of girlfriends and also guy friends who are high powered, who are very successful, and for some reason, they define their self-worth by the pedigree of the partners they attract. He also went in Ivy League. He's a startup founder and he's this and that. I feel like he's a good match for me because he's pedigreed in that way, but they don't take into regard how good these people are and their personalities and even if they get along and even if they're compatible. I sent your audible original to a friend of mine because it reminded me of her because for so long, she is just so incredibly smart. This is wise. I think I know who you're talking about. No, you totally know who I'm talking about. She's so smart. This is wise, but comes to personal relationships, she only goes for guys who are, yes, very pedigreed, but come in and out of her life. They weave in and out. To her, she's created this narrative that that's okay because they're so busy doing their huge accomplishments that the little time that they give her, that's love. It's been like this for two years with the same guy. I'm like, please listen to this. You need to listen to this. Well, I guess that's a good, I think you were saying earlier, Mark, some of it is relative to what love you've seen and what stories you're telling. What do you do when someone like that, we'll use that example, is like, but I'm in love with them. What do you say to that when you know it's an unhealthy situation, but they feel that love? Love is not enough. I know that sounds curt, but really this has been my rallying cry in terms of all my relationship advice for years now is that we have to get over this idea that like, oh, but I love her. Oh, but I'm so in love with her. It'll be okay. And it's like, no, it's not going to be okay. In fact, it's probably going to get worse. If you don't have respect, if you don't have trust, if people aren't committed, if they aren't like you were saying, you were like, they're, they're not making that daily choice of like, okay, I'm going to sacrifice this to be with this person. It's not going to get better. So we have to kind of get over this idea, this romantic idea, you know, romance is great, feels wonderful. And it's, it's important, but there are more important things to be optimizing for, I think, in our relationship. And on the flip side of that is, oh, but Mark, I'm in love. Flip side is relationships are all about compromise. So when do you know you're starting to sacrifice too much to compromise for your partner? Oh, that's a good question and a tough question. I mean, I think there's a threshold where at some point, you know, everybody ends up having to compromise in relationships, but I think there are certain things that are core to your identity and your values that you, that have to kind of be sacred that have to be off limits. It's like that, that cheesy meatloaf song. I'll do anything for love, but I won't do that. I used to play that on repeat 24 seven. I forgot about that song.
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"Yeah, you just need to get I saw like podcasts on United. I'm like, how do we get on here? Because I know a good audience. People are bored. But anyways, I think this episode, I mean, you probably have heard, I think the article, it's like, fuck yes, or fuck no, he wrote this article a long time ago. And it was basically about like, if you don't feel like a fuck yes to someone, like, what are you even doing? And he's become this unofficial dating guru, which is not what he set out to do. But I think a lot of his advice of just life holds true for dating. But he did do this audible original called love is not enough, we got the pleasure of speaking with him after and you know, we talked about that of like, he followed a handful of daters and some of them were in situations that were less than ideal, but they stayed because they believe like love conquers all Yeah, or they also felt like they had this vision of what love is. So there's like one I remember that he was like, Oh, yeah, I can go travel across the country for a first date. And there's something very like innocent and romantic about that, but just also very unrealistic and living in a fantasy. So it was a very interesting conversation of just like how society portrays love and how that actually gets in our way. And you know, we love talking about this topic. We've we've talked about society, how society has fucked us pretty much for years. Yes, over and over again, I feel so violated by society, this topic of love, and even going back to when I was 13 years old, thinking about love and what that would be like, I truly felt like that'd be the end. That's it, you fall in love with someone, that's it, you've reached life's ultimate goal, and you're going to be happy. And that's why it's so elusive. And that's why it's so coveted. And I remember the feeling of falling in love for the first time to my high school boyfriend at age 16. And so funny, because he and I still talk. He lives in LA. We have these deep conversations all the time. I will never forget him, because he is my first love. And he just happens to be in LA too. And the first time he said, I love you. I remember just being like, that's it. I want you to go to school. I'm done. Michael, I'm locked. Yeah, yeah, let's do this. We're gonna get married, like life is over, like in a good way. But then all the issues came up, all the traumas came up, all the drama. And I remember just being a 16-year-old being like, why is just being in love not enough? Why are there so many other issues? And when you don't have an answer to that at 16, you carry that into your 20s, into your 30s, into your 40s. You're like, why is there more beyond love? So it's so great that he's able to uncover the mystery of love. That's great. You can fall in love and something so beautiful and wonderful, but it doesn't mean that you are compatible still, or that you can have a sustainable relationship just from love. I love that you said 16, because I was like, I went through this at 31. So there's no age that you can't go through this. Even if you've been in love before, I think another love can hit you differently too. I had such a hard time letting go of my, I would say, first real love, like mutual, like, I don't know, it's not like it was my first relationship, but it just hit me different than other past people. And I had such a hard time letting this go. I've talked about this on the podcast many of times, this on again, off again relationship, because in my head, I viewed this as the one, as the person. And he was also telling me that too. So it wasn't even just that I was making it up and living in a fantasy. Like he was telling me that, but then also couldn't actually do the things necessary to be in a committed long-term partnership. So it was like, he was saying this stuff, but the actions weren't following through. And it was very hard to rectify. And I actually relistened to this episode, Mark Manson. I think I was in the thick of this at the last part, when I finally gave it that last run over COVID and decided like nothing had changed that this relationship just wasn't going to work. But it was that example of like how love really is not enough. Like it's a facet of a long-term partnership, but it can't be the only thing. And anybody in a long-term partnership will tell you, am I in love with my partner every day? No, there are days I don't love them. And then there are days that I do, and mostly I do, and there's always going to be love for them. But this idea that every day just you wake up with butterflies in your stomach, like, I'm so in love with you, babe. And we're going to take on the world together. It just doesn't, it's just so fantastical. And it's like not based in reality. And I also feel like, you know, going through what I'm currently going through, I, something that that's been healing for me as fucked up as this is, I look back through the text messages that he sent me during the time of his betrayal, because I want to see what he was communicating to me. Did I miss something? And very easily he would say, I love you. I miss you. Can't wait to see you. Love you so much. Love you, love you, love you. Like just a lot of love use. I don't know if there's a better example of how love is not enough. You can still say these things and I don't, I'm not going to discredit them because we were in love, but it doesn't mean that this person is still good for me. It doesn't mean that this person is going to remain faithful to me. So it's so complicated. Relationships are so complicated. Love is so complicated, but it can be less complicated if we don't put all of our weight into one thing. Right? Yeah. It needs to be the whole picture. I think that's what I've learned. Like it's, it's hard because I like still feel like I'm in that stage of relationship because I'm a little over two, two and a half years. So I'm not, I haven't hit like five, six years, you know, I'm a little afraid. There is a side of me that's afraid that I'll like lose that feeling when I wake up, you know, of just like feeling so in love and having like every day feel that way. And it's not that like, I don't know, the inner romantics listening, it's kind of depressing to hear like, Oh, there's days that you just don't love your partner. Or when they say, I love you, it's not enough to hear. But I think ultimately it's like, it's a piece of the puzzle. It's not the entire bit. Like other things need to be in place too. And like words and actions need to align at the end of the day. Yeah. Don't be afraid of that. I don't, it's not like you're going to wake up one day. I don't know. It could be different for you. It's not like you're going to wake up one and be like, I'm not in love with my partner. It's just that you forget to feel that love. You just like not something you think about. Yeah. I think appreciation is so important. I mean, it's a little off topic, but it's like when you are someone for a while, it's easy to take it for granted. And my partner and I actually like, there was a period, I wouldn't say we took each other for granted, but I think we've like, re-stepped up of like, okay, we are very lucky that we found each other. Cause you start to just get complacent of like, Oh, of course, like this part of life is in place. Yeah. We all want that love. That's what we all desire. That's what society has been fed to us. But this is a nice reality check of how it's important, but it's not everything. What did Helen Fisher say about love chemically? That it's similar to taking Coke and something else. I need to look it up. Something very scientific. It does something to your brain so that you become addicted to it. Gives you this rush of adrenaline, yet it's not, none of it is based in reality, kind of like when you do Coke, you can't be doing Coke every minute of the day. Well, I think it's a good point too, is like lust in love is also very different. Like we conflate the two a lot, especially in the early days when someone hasn't proven that they actually are relationship material, we're going off of lust, which actually is kind of in line with this TikTok trend I wanted to bring up because I had the pleasure, unfortunately UA had a prior commitment at the time, but I had the pleasure of being on all of it, New York Public Radio, UA and I have been guests a couple of times. Looking back, I actually saw that we'd been five times on that show. Yeah. I didn't even realize it was that many, or this was the fifth time, but still it's a lot. But they actually reached out to us to talk about the triangle method, which has been taking TikTok by storm. So for anyone that's unaware, what it is, is basically eye contact that you go, I'm gonna try it on UA right now. I go from one left eye down to her mouth, down to her right eye, and then back to her left eye. That was kind of creepy. You know, I, okay, I will say that I think I'm just bad at this type of stuff because I get in my head, like I've never been good at making eye contact at bars. I always just look creepy. And I did the triangle method to my partner and he was just like, what are you doing right now? Okay. Why bring it up though? It's a very interesting topic because the reason why it's blown up on TikTok is it's like, this is the foolproof way to make someone fall for you or to fall in love. And I think, you know, as a society, we're always looking for that trick and hack. And especially in today's world where, you know, you can get an Uber or a meal or anything in like five minutes, right? At the touch of your fingertips. We're on demand. We want it instantaneously. So I'm not surprised that people are looking for this, but it's just one of those things too, that it's so in line with what we're talking about. It's like you give one look and now your problems are solved and this person's in love with you. That's just not how it works. And you know, all for eye contact, but also like, creepy when you do it. Oh, I can't wait to see people put this into practice. And also, how do these trends start on TikTok? I don't, I don't get it. Like one person does. We need to come up with our own method, the dateable method and just have a takeoff. Like you stare at someone's right earlobe for five seconds and then rub your left shoulder. If someone was staring at my mouth, I would think I had like food in my teeth. I wouldn't think that they were trying to hit on me and show their interest. Yeah, I know. That's so strange. How about we just keep it simple. Just make eye contact. That's the one thing we don't do these days. And I find that so sexy when someone can maintain eye contact, but not too much eye contact. Oh yeah. Yes. Yeah. Don't be stalker staring. But yeah, when they, when someone's talking to you, even like just, I don't know, sometimes if I'm opening the door for someone or walking through a doorway and I come in contact with a stranger, it's so lovely when they make eye contact, they're like, thank you. You know, it's very intentional. So for that, I'm very all for the triangle method. If it's going to give us an excuse to make eye contact, I think that's really good. Or to even make your interests known. I feel like today's world, we're also afraid to show our cards in any way that we're just hiding behind screens. So the more that people can engage in real life and make eye contact, that's phenomenal. But also don't get in your head and don't overthink it either. That's where it goes. If it's not natural for you, don't do it. Or don't use it to replace communication. Like I don't think you can like give someone the eye and just be like, oh, they never walked over to me. They're not interested. Or they never asked me out further. They're not interested. They may not have even known that you were giving them the signal. Just ask. If you want to go out with them, ask. Yeah, I know. There are no hacks. Yeah. And that's what people are looking for. I think that's what the trends are on TikTok. Yeah, totally. Everything's hacks, right? And I think they're hacks to like how to get your silver jewelry cleaner like that. Yes. But how to get to someone's heart, there's just no shortcut to that. And yeah, these triangle methods, maybe like it helps improve your confidence. It improves your flirtatious skills, but it doesn't like it doesn't carve a path to someone's heart. Like that's not how it works. So yeah, I'd love to see all of you try it, but end of the day, just try eye contact. And I just looked up chemical makeup of when you're in love. And Helen Fisher says it's equivalent to if you have OCD on Coke. So you become obsessively compulsive. You're obsessed with this person and this higher level of energy and dopamine that comes over you. So you can't get enough of this person like that doesn't sound healthy. No, you know, there's a lot of nuance of this topic. We can't wait for you to listen to this episode. Let's also discuss it. You know, send us your thoughts. Like tell us, do you think this is a realistic view? Do you still feel like, you know, now it's not romantic enough and you want to believe in the magic of love? Like, where are you on this love spectrum and how do you view it? Let us know. Cause we'd love to hear your comments. You can always DM us at datable podcast, email us hello at datable podcast.com. This is a good call out too, because we are getting ready to come back for season 17 and we're ready to take on some new brunch talk questions. So feel free to also send those. Maybe they relate to this topic or maybe they're totally different. We love it. We'll take it all. That's our announcement for today. Don't forget rating and review. Good to call. Okay. We did not finish our announcements. We are at 700 on Apple and like three something on Spotify. So I think our goal could be 500 on Spotify and a thousand still on Apple. If you can give us that five star rating is really, really help. If you're going to give us four stars or lower, maybe send us an email. We do like feedback, but it really does fuck us. So please try to be aware. Anything lower than four stars, you can just keep it to yourself or just don't listen. You know, not every podcast is for everyone and that's okay. Yeah. Just like dating, right? Not everyone's going to be a property. So just keep moving along. You don't, if you go on a date, if you go on a first date with someone and you realize there's no chemistry, you're not going to be like slandering their name all over the internet. Right. That's what it feels like if you listen to one episode and you're like, it's not for me. And then you give us a low rating. We would never do that to each other. This isn't a paid product. There's thousands, thousands of other podcasts out there, but if you do have constructive feedback or topics you want to hear, we had a great host in the Facebook community, love in the time of Corona. We did get a call out to change the name. We are also on it. We get it. We get it. There is a, I don't know. I don't know how much longer I want to see love in the time of Corona either. We'll figure it out. We're, we're, we're on it, but regardless, we do love getting input on topics or any thing that we can approve the show on. But also there are comments that are just like, okay, thanks. Like what are we going to do with that? You know? Right. Right. Yeah, exactly. Cool. Okay. Well, without further ado, let's hear a few messages from our sponsors. This episode is made possible by the books, the falling and the burning by Anna Todd. You may recognize the name Anna Todd from her number one bestselling after series, but did you know that she has also written a new page turning romance trilogy. The first two books in the brightest stars are out now in our perfect summer reads. They're called the falling and the burning just in time to heat up your summer set against the backdrop of a military base. 20 year old Karina is proud of the independent life. 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Yeah, True Earth's mission is to help reduce the billions of plastic household containers that can end up in landfills and oceans every year. With their laundry detergent eco strips, you can get rid of plastic jugs once and for all. It's so easy to use, I just pop a strip in the washer, add my laundry and that's it. True Earth products are paraben free, phosphate free, free of added dyes, free of chlorine bleach, hypoallergenic and it comes in cardboard packaging that you can recycle. It takes up so little space and you can even take it on the go because it's not a liquid. Laundry will never be the same ever again and they also make other household products. You can try True Earth today at true dot earth slash datable and use datable to get 12% off. That's t r u dot earth slash datable and use the code d a t e a b l e to get 12% off today. Okay, let's hear it from Mark Manson about why love is not enough.
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"manson" Discussed on Dateable Podcast
"Welcome back, friends. And let's discuss dating in all its glory. While we're still on this summer break bonus episode period, it's been really fun bringing back old episodes, even just for ourselves, because we've we have so many freaking episodes every week. We're like, OK, which one are we going to do? You know, last week was sex party. That was an epic one. This week, we're really excited, too, because, you know, when you've done three hundred plus episodes, some of these gems can get lost. That's just the reality. And, you know, we can only control Apple podcasts and Spotify so much like there's no way for us to pin these and bring them back. So I think this has been a good, good alternative. Many of you have DM'd us saying you all should do an episode on this topic. And then more likely than not, we'll have already done that topic and then we'll just send you the link. But it's so funny, like there was one recently about herpes. Right. Yeah. A lot of people always want to want an episode about herpes. We do. We have an episode called Yes, I Have Herpes. With the book by the same title. Yes. No, that was such a great episode. And I really think like Spotify, actually, I would say a little better than Apple podcast, like for search. If you type in herpes dateable, you probably would have got it back. I hope you all do. Let's just make that our SEO keywords. I want like page one Google ranking for herpes. Okay. I'm just going to say when we get our Google stats, what's always at the top is diaper fetish. Always at the top. Either a lot of other people haven't done content in this topic, which is possible that we've gotten our niche somehow. We did do two episodes on the back. So what you're saying is we should really be bringing it a diaper fetish episode. Yes. Just for SEO. It was still a great I mean, both of those episodes are great and we still reference it till today. So obviously they've made an impact on our lives. But yeah, maybe it's like the more niche topics will get us page one views. Yeah. SEO wise, maybe not listens wise. It's actually warmed by heart that we've had a bunch of people reach out recently about the friendship episode we did saying that it was just really, you know, what they needed to hear in that moment. It makes me really happy because you know, it is that relationship that we just don't talk about as often. Yeah. And something that's at the core of everything we do every day, you're always going to have friendships, you know, throughout life, but relationships can come and go. I realized that to have a healthy, sustainable relationship, you almost do have to build that friendship first. And I think that's why, you know, back in the day when you meet a coworker, a neighbor, someone through a friend, and then you develop a romance over time, those relationships are pretty solid because you didn't start with the premise of just being romantic. And I think sometimes these days we skip that step because we go straight to the romantic side of things. And we, you know, kind of forget building that that friendship is so important. Definitely. I think though our generation actually is set up well for this at the same time. Like I hear what you're saying about the meeting and all that, but I do think the gender roles being down and not being as much of a focus anymore. We're going to go into a deep dive next week on Barbie movie. You and I have yet to see it. We want to retract our sexist comments because we've heard that the Barbie movie is, you know, just all about women's empowerment, but I was like talking to my mom about this and she's like, Oh, I don't know what it's going to be like to go with your partner and, you know, have him watch it with you because it's like more, again, I haven't seen it yet, but I guess what I've heard is it's more about like women living their lives. And my response to her is I was like, I don't think he's going to react that way because like, that's not how our relationship is set up. Like he fully understands that I can, I don't need him in any way. It's, I choose him every day. Having that mentality sets you up to find a partner that you do have that friendship with. It's not like you're going because you need something from them. I'm not retracting my comment. I still think Barbie is very sexist as a, as a product. I think the movie I'm sure, I mean, it's a feminist movie. I totally get it. That's a different point that they're trying to make. But if you didn't know what the movie is about and you see all the marketing, all you want to do is be like Barbie dress like Barbie. And it's like these basic bitches and like their pink costumes on Instagram every day, you know, that's the part I can't, I can't get behind that. We're still perpetuating this image that Barbie is kind of like the ideal, but I think in the friendship realm though, it's like many of you have said, you know, these are things I tolerate in dating, the ghosting, the bad dating behavior. And if you were to ground that from a place of friendship, you would never tolerate that with a friend. If a friend ghosted you, you'd be like, what the fuck? You call them out. You'd be like, what, what are you doing? So for some reason, the same standards we have for friendships, we don't apply them to relationships or in early dating, let's just say. And I hope that we can do more of that. After this episode, we can say, well, if I treat my friends this way, when I and my friends treat me this way, I should expect the same in dating. I mean, I think this ties into this episode that we're re airing to today as we're talking with Mark Manson, who is best selling author, you've probably heard of the subtle art of not giving a fuck. He has a new movie out to that I caught. You know, it's funny, I heard about a different podcast and he's like, you can catch my movie on an airplane. And I'm like, that's actually where I saw it. Yeah, that's the only place I saw it. So I'm not sure if it's just widespread, or maybe that is the best demographic. I don't know. You are a captive for potentially five to six hours, depending on where you're flying. That's true.
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A highlight from Flashback Series - Love Is Not Enough w/ Mark Manson
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The Officer Tatum Show
MLK, The Marxist?
"I know that this is holiday for many people. So I hope you're celebrating and eating barbecue and all kind of stuff on the holiday. I want to say happy Marxist Luther King day. I mean, Martin Luther King day, some people ain't gonna like that I called Martin Luther King of marxists, but was he a Marxist? Or was he not a Marxist? This show is going to be hot, so make sure you're ready and prepared. It makes you sitting down. I believe that Martin Luther King wasn't who we think he is, or he was. I think that the media has really recreated a scenario that's very similar to what they've done with the narrative of police brutality in America, the same narrative of Black Lives Matter. I mean, I'm telling you guys, I'm telling you, in 20 years, we're going to look back and they're going to say that Black Lives Matter was an organization that inspired change. It was the new civil rights movement. They're going to tell you that black people were getting gunned down in the middle of the street on by white racist police officers. And it was an epidemic. And that if it wasn't for people like Patrice Kohler's, then Byron Manson white neighborhoods that we would still be suffering from the effects of white racism.
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"manson" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Manson Family is being recommended for parole Michael kassner has more Patricia krenwinkel and the other followers of cult leader Charles Manson were convicted of murder for the 1969 killing of actress Sharon Tate and several others and for the murders of businessman Leo LaBianca and his wife rosemary krenwinkel is now 74 years old and is the longest serving female inmate in the California prison system On Thursday state prison officials said krenwinkel has been found suitable for parole the decision still has to be reviewed by the parole board and by the governor I'm Michael castner A South Carolina dog named pebbles now holds the record for the oldest dog in the world The toy fox terrier from Taylor's was awarded the accomplishment at the age of 22 years and 59 days old her owner Julie Gregory says pebbles is like a wild teen who loves to sleep during the day and is up all night I'm Brian shook And I'm Charlie pellet At Bloomberg world headquarters The S&P 500 Index has broken a 7 week losing streak this week rallying 6.6% Best week since November of 2020 Liz young is head of investment strategy at social finance This is not a time when you try to chase and call a bottom call a peek call an inflection point because honestly inflection points are happening daily Liz young of SoFi but for investors one of the big questions is inflation has it peaked or has it paused Lori calvasina is head of U.S. equity strategy at RBC capital markets So look economics team has been optimistic that we were going to get some moderation So I would say that we're in that moderation camp and that even if we haven't absolutely seen the peaks that it's still coming and the trend is going to be more favorable going forward Lori calvasina of RBC capital markets at palumbo wealth management CEO Phil palombo told us he's concerned about a potential recession on what that might mean for equity markets The peak to 12 drawdown on average is 35% Somewhere around there So there's definitely more room to go in terms of where we could pay the potential EB Phil palombo the CEO of Colombo wealth management so stocks rallied as economic data confirmed consumer demand remains strong and inflation is cooling The S&P 500 Index rally two and a half percent today on lighter than normal volume ahead of the holiday weekend all of the 11 major S&P 500 industry groups advanced S&P up 100 points today the Dow is up 575 up by 1.8% NASDAQ rallied 390 up 3.3% Global news 24 hours a day on air and on Bloomberg quicktake powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries I'm Charlie palette This is Bloomberg This is masters in business with Barry riddles on Bloomberg radio My special guest this week is Adam Parker He is the founder of tri variant research previously he was global director of research and U.S. equity strategist at Sanford C Bernstein He was the number one institutional investor ranked analyst in semiconductors before he became Morgan Stanley's chief U.S. equity strategist and director of global quant research Adam Parker welcome to Bloomberg Thanks Thanks for having me here I've been looking forward to having this conversation for a while and I have to start with your very interesting academic background You have 3° in stats not just undergraduate at Michigan but a PhD from Boston University and in the middle you got a master's in biostatistics at UNC Chapel Hill tell us about that Yeah well back then statistics wasn't as cool as it is now So I didn't know 30 years ago I was going to turn into all the rage and that everyone was kind of one of major in data science and analytics I was always more of a math guy and I liked having problem sets and then going and playing sports and I didn't want to have to read chaucer or whatever all the other miserable people were doing So kind of motivated me to be a little bit more analytical So but the question that raises biostatistics is where you always planning on a career in finance or was that you know that was more the biostatistics department was in the school of public health at UNC and applied statistics applying that age to mostly medical data But it was more about learning analytics and programming and apply it to anything So my PhD thesis was about missing data in a healthcare setting but as you know missing data exists everywhere including a finance So it turned out to be pretty applicable So how frustrating is it to you to see either newspaper headlines or social media where people just lack a rudimentary understanding of basic statistics and probability You know I think the big challenge is as you know because you're good at this is taking things that are somewhat complicated and then making them sound like they're simple and explaining them to everybody I think the average intellect of people watching and reading mainstream media is still in the junior high or high school level So that's what you've got to resonate with I romanticize the investment community is slightly above that but it probably is less above that than you think Right So I will talk about tri vary it a little later I love the name I wrote a Bloomberg column years ago Single variable analysis is for soccer So something like that And so I have to talk to you about your name Of course But with all that stat background how did you get to Sanford C Bernstein You know in those days I finished my PhD in the late 90s I had some buddies that seem to be getting rich on Wall Street and I.
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
Evan Rachel Wood Drops the Hammer on Marilyn Manson
"You know who else has seen the light lately? Evan Rachel Wood. I don't know what it is about her, but she's, to me, she's very attractive. And she's the kind of girl that kind of sneaks up on you. You know, she's not the most beautiful girl in the room, but if you stand back and look at her, you know what? Evan Rachel Wood is very beautiful girl. She's a she keeps herself together. She's well healed if I may say she's, I just, she's very attractive. What bond is being battery she was fucking Marilyn Manson for years. That I can't understand. Any girl who does that, I can't understand. He's a filthy, ugly, weirdo, dangerous drug addicted pig. You go down that alley, you're gonna come back with bumps and bruises and scars. And Evan Rachel Wood did. And now she's speaking publicly about being a victim of domestic violence and sexual abuse at the hands of this asshole. She took her story to the House judiciary committee three years ago in an effort to help get a sexual assault survivor's bill passed. And last year she named Malin Edison as her abuser, she was put them from 2006 to 2010, and many women have also come forward and accused him. By the way, his real name is Brian Warner. They've accused him of several forms of abuse. And four months ago, I didn't really get into it but four months ago, police raided his house after they got a warrant and this ongoing sexual assault investigation. So it's not so it's enough evidence to make people believe how evil this guy really is and was. But amazingly, and we've all heard the stories from his ex-girlfriends of how he beat them, kept them in room, standing up for hours, made them do cocaine, passed them along to buddies for sex. He's a real piece of shit.
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
Michael Madsen Is Lost and Depressed
"Speaking of actors having trouble, let's talk about Michael Matson real quickly. Maxson was arrested for, I don't know, trespassing on a property in Malibu. He's got a place out there. It actually burned down when the fire has happened, but I know Michael pretty well. I know his ex-wife really well. Janine, nice person, sweet person, and she has two of his sons, not the son that killed himself. I mean, this guy went through a lot. He lost his son to suicide several months back. Kids shot himself in the head, and he was a soldier. But Michael Manson has been going through shit and I knew this a long time ago because I had heard that even though he's with the new girl and he's trying to have a new life, his ex-wife told me that Michael comes to me just pissed drunk when I say piss drunk I'm talking pissing his pants from. I don't take any delight in saying that. And he went to his ex-wife begging for help. This is probably a year or two ago. It's not much she could do, except let him sleep on the couch. It hurts me that Michael Manson is this fucked up.
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
Why Are Children of Celebrities Killing Themselves?
"People have asked me multiple times about all these suicides of children of stars. Sinéad O'Connor, Michael Manson, Regina King, all lost sons, king son, killed himself on his birthday. Dog tree lost a daughter. The American Idol guy. Hung herself with a bunch of drugs in his system. Crystal meth fentanyl. I hate to say it, but I don't think O'Connor's gonna make it long without her boy. This is gonna really put her over the edge. It already has and I don't think anybody would be surprised if she killed herself too. God forbid, but she's been screaming about mental illness forever. And I'm sure that played a role in her son's death. I'm sure it passed on from her to him. But how do you go on as a parent after that?
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Mark Levin
Sara Haines: 'We Must Have an Even [Supreme] Court' With Another Liberal
"There's sunny Houston woman of the people Living in a huge Manson on several acres Down for the revolution And there's Sarah Haines Who's that Who the hell knows Go ahead Considering the uneven kind of court we have right now It's so important to have an even court right now It must be even What does that mean Who knows Do you have to have an IQ of negative 5 and a half to be on this show I think you do I thank you though Go ahead happening on in a time where we can get another liberal And of course the representation more than anything you pointed out So we can get another liberal on the court you see that's the goal That's all Not to understand the constitution and we just need another It's all about politics It's politics in our science Politics and our doctor's office politics with abortion That's not a life You women you are carrying a baby No you're not carrying another life Why take care of it It's just a choice Just a choice Why eat Well it's just the choice No big deal Go ahead There's only been two black men in Those numbers are How many black men are on the view Mister bid is here Now she doesn't count There are no black men on the view Why is that I mean don't we want it sort of even and even view is to quote the Sarah
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
Julia Fox Name Drops and Gushes Over Kanye in Interview Magazine
"Oh my God, I got my hands on the interview, magazine that Julia Fox is, oh my God, Julia Fox, Kanye's new girlfriend, girl, the moment, whatever you want to call her. The talk in this interview magazine is a very, you know, lady entitled fancy schmancy magazine. You know, Andy Warhol began and it's one of those magic. They normally get celebrities to interview celebrities. So it's like a double hand job interview. All these things are like that. How's the relationship with yay evolving? And fox goes, you know, I'm so used to being fucked all over in relationships. So I keep waiting for him to disappoint me because he makes very grandiose promises. And it's like, how could he ever pull it off with all the other things he has going on? But he always does. Last night was a testament to that. Would there be like 9 days where he always pulls it off? He's love bombing you, girl. She talked about another date where Kanye played the movie Zola for his friends and Julie was so touched to include Zola and our narrative. I can't take these people. And then she name dropped a lot of people who were at the house watching. Who was their last night? Oh, Dave Chappelle, Marilyn Manson, Naomi Campbell, the actor from the new Batman camera on Jack Donahue from Salem, Andrew Richardson from Richardson magazine, Richie Suzanne, all my friends came, Richie a sashimi with Marilyn Manson and they had a really nice heart to heart. Who the fuck? Who is Richie's Shazam? Who is Andrew Richardson? Who's Jack Donahue? I know Jack Donahue from Alec Baldwin's character and then show, but oh, all these people. Why do I need to know them? And by the way, who's inviting a rapist to dinner. Kanye's inviting Marilyn Manson to dinner? I'll have sweet. What a sweet birthday
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
Feds Investigate the Horrors of Marilyn Manson
"Somebody said, AJ, you were right, you know, the maron Manson, the crazy rock and roller, the crazy guy. Devil worshiping, you know, the crazy an idiot, but cops, feds, whatever the hell descended on his house to search for stuff to search for evidence that would shed light on some of the horrible things, many women said he did to them. And I'm not sure if it was the house he just sold or that's empty or the house he lives in now. Either way, they took away a lot of boxes of stuff and I'm sure they're getting ready to really go at him hard. And it made me really go in depth and read about Marilyn Manson in publications and such that I never never read before. And we talk about all these guys on this show that have done awful things from hobby Weinstein down to you name it there's been so many that Matt Lauer, so many guys have done awful things since the me too era broke. But the stuff this guy is alleged to have done is beyond the pale. And for Kanye West to take him in and bring him to his church service and sing with him and Justin Bieber to be friends with him and the singer Halsey to have his name tattooed on her on her side of her body, it's so tone deaf in idiotic. The guy's bed. Is fear a woman, especially Halsey, you don't need his image likeness or name on your
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood's Attention to Detail Is Superb
"Because what I did the other day was I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which had already seen a couple times. I watched the third time. I really liked that movie. I love Brad Pitt's performance and Leo DiCaprio's performance. And I was looking for certain pieces of the film and maybe I'd have a look like all the Manson kids. I wanted to see their faces, you know, there's more appetite that's Dakota Fanning. There's some people in there that I kind of overlooked the first time or two. And I wanted to concentrate more on the bit players. And man, they were just everybody's so good in that movie. I love the way the sun sets trip was decorated to look exactly like that time. I mean, Tarantino apparently went down to not only the storefronts having signs in the window saying a particular pair of shoes were for sale, but they made sure those exact shoes were in the window, even if it only meant the camera passed by the window with the speed of Brad Pitt's car driving it. It was amazing. Not to mention Brad Pitt was driving my car. I had the same car, but my mind was in blow, his was in tan. So I watched that movie.
Rocket
'Holmes Holmies': Theranos CEO Lookalikes Draw Attention as Trial Starts
"Homes has groupies now. Philosophy reported on homes. This trial finally starting. They're doing jury selection. It's very hard because everybody knows about her. To the extent that there are women showing up For to get into the trial looking like elizabeth homes yet. The trial kicked off. Today's we record this on on wednesday. They've given their opening statements and She is groupies. Just like just like charles. Manson it charles manson is. I'm marrying. i'm. I'm not comparing her to charles. I'm saying that dressing up in a certain way like dear leader as fans and going to a court case criminal court proceedings. I'm sorry it is. That's not even that it's not even a stretch. That's literally what the manson girls did.
AP News Radio
Not Guilty Plea Entered for Marilyn Manson on Misdemeanors
"A popular musician denies misdemeanor charges of assault in New Hampshire an attorney for Marilyn Manson has entered a not guilty plea on behalf of the musical artists he's accused of spitting at and blowing his nose on a videographer who was at his twenty nineteen concert in Gilford New Hampshire mansion turned himself into police in July in connection with an arrest warrant issued in the case details of the alleged crime or in a police affidavit released along with the criminal complaint against Manson he faces two misdemeanor counts of simple assault if convicted he could get a jail sentence of less than a year and a two thousand dollar fine I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
KIRO Nights
Kanye West Brings out Marilyn Manson, DaBaby at Donda Event
"I just picture you know me being a Kanye fan. I only see myself existing in Kanye's world. And being a loyal supporter to report the news. But you know, last night he had a big performance at Soldier Field in Chicago. He's you know, releasing a new album. He's been doing some of these big stadium tours. And they are far from what you would call a normal record release or just any normal performance in any way shape. Well, he's selling out stadiums to listen to the album, right. He's not even performing which is really unique. Yeah, but the thing is, is that there's also been some of these other different types of, you know. Pop ups of different types of other types of famous hardest, other things that are coming into these types of acts, and I saw this on Buzzfeed's news today, A Kanye West brought out Marilyn Manson and the baby out on stage at his latest album, Listening to Party, even though one of them has a sexual assault allegations, and the other one has anti gay allegations against them, which is causing A pretty huge backlash. And, you know, we all know Kanye Kanye is the greatest artist of a generation, self proclaimed self proclaimed, He's I. The thing is that I love. I love how confident he is a part of my reason why I love God. He so much as I kind of buy into the craziness of it because I'm like dude graduations like one of the best albums ever like that album is a killer. And the thing that you can just keep progressing and keep making hits and being a success and then also dive bombing in your life. The dude's an absolute treasure. But when
AP News Radio
Rocker Marilyn Manson Accused of Spitting, Blowing Snot on Woman
"Musician Marilyn Manson is charged with misdemeanor assault on a videographer and a twenty nineteen concert in New Hampshire I marches are a letter with the latest Susan fountain was working as a videographer in the stage pits and Marilyn Manson's concert in Gilford New Hampshire two years ago when Manson put his face close to the camera and spit at her according to a police affidavit it says Manson allegedly returned a second time covered one nostril in blue mucus out her Manson surrendered to Los Angeles police last month in connection with the incident the two charges each can result in a jail sentence of less than a year and a two thousand dollar fine if convicted Manson's attorney did not return requests for comment
The Stuttering John Podcast
"manson" Discussed on The Stuttering John Podcast
"We've spoke to Allen Allen has reached out to us you know I mean at the end of the day he he knows exactly what we said. He can sit all day long and say that we've abandoned him, we supported him. He did not win. He didn't even come close to winning and right now we can't throw money at somebody that's not going to come close to winning. We're going to try to get behind people that can turn his seats left. Something I want to see Mark Rubio with snot bubbles of popping because he's crying like a schoolgirl with a skinny on Election night because he's feet. That's what I want to say and we can't throw money at home. Can throw money at Allen. I am interested. I understand your position and I will not question this topic anymore, because I have more important things to talk about wage is now you showed me what? You text Joe manchin. Yep. Did he ever get back to you? Nope. Nope. Joe Manson is pretty much stopped speaking to me, but that's okay. Because yesterday, I had an article published and I lived in to Joe manchin that article and I made sure that I sent him that private message that with with the article attached to it, Joe manchin is Joe Manson Manson has recently been found to go to Texas, he's taking money from Fox News, he's taking money from Exxon. Joe manchin is a horror, that's exactly what he is. And he will say, you know, his frigging ass for friggin whatever it takes and Joe manchin is that guy and that's one of the reasons why it's important for us to flip red seats, blue. So we no longer have to worry about Joe and Joe. When Joe manchin comes back to West Virginia in a couple of years and tries to run for governor so he can end his career with the governor's win. I hope that the people, the West Virginia absolutely turned their back on him. Do not support him because he's a lying. Treasonous worm is what he is. Well, I, I don't know what we're supposed to do. I mean, it's it seems like it's, you know, two steps forward and one step back with you. Here we have the presidency, we.
WBZ Afternoon News
Marilyn Manson Released on Bail After Turning Himself in on Assault Charges
"To police in Los Angeles in connection with the 2019 arrest warrant out of New Hampshire when he allegedly assaulted a videographer during a concert. This happened at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion and Guilford. Manson was booked and released last week without bail pending a court appearance in New Hampshire. Coming up on
Let's Start A Cult
"manson" Discussed on Let's Start A Cult
"Sounds a little too crazy for me but not for tom cruise. Tom cruise danny said that. Sounds like my cup of tea on this couch right. Yeah so. I haven't done scientology. I keep flirting with the idea of that as well. So no man your last episode. Oh that'll be fun. I'll make it a five part series just to go there you go in inflames. Yeah well. I'm in canada. Maybe they can't reach me after prison. Charles headed off to san francisco california with only a guitar and a bag of hallucinogenic drugs to his name. Which is the best way to head to san francisco because any other way to go to california absolutely should they stop at the state border and make sure that you have at least those two items. Yeah they're like sir. Where's your guitar in your bag drums. He found the city's the city's bohemian and young atmosphere. Incredibly appealing believing it to be the perfect source of inspiration for his music. Thanks to his innate charisma to attract a small group of young adults who shared his interests and beliefs among them was twenty. two year old. Mary brunner a will wisconsin native. Who worked as a librarian. At the university of california's berkeley campus charles was a older mary. However this huge age gap didn't stop her from quickly falling in love with him enticed by the life he offered which was a far cry from the monotonous existence that she'd been leading he introduced her to hallucinate genyk drugs and her usage increase. Sodas her obsession with them. Yeah i mean being a librarian is definitely the monotonous pirates. Someone offers you drugs. You're going to probably go with just to get some spark in your life. Typically when you do more drugs you need more drugs. Yeah exactly who knows if she was actually into him or just the drugs and the drought for a lot of our something. That's very true. Actually after moving in together. Mary quitter cushy job and began preaching to others about charles ideologies and the life that he could provide them with with her persuasive words and his magnetism. They quickly amassed a small following by nineteen sixty eight thirty four year old charles had become the leader of a group that he referred to as the family it consisted of a like minded group youth who found themselves enthralled with sinister prophecies and religious teachings which combines science fiction with the occult and fringe psychology. So you know scientology basically. It's there's a lot of overlap. I think considering you took so many courses in particular charles sold them. On the idea that an apocalyptic war would soon lay waste to the united states paving the way for the family to gain fame. Power and dominance. He claimed to have experienced visions of the scene. Although experts would later claim that he'd been merely suffering from delusions. Which i think we probably could have all cast experts for that the beatles all about god and the beatles were talking directly through him. We can thought that the white album like that was his message to him. The helter skelter. Yeah the actually. That's the next next paragraph so here you're right on track. I should just let you take care of what i was gonna say. So how helter skelter lake. He thought he was convinced. That was the message to him about this crazy like coming like race war but honestly i think he just confused like the black power movement and he was like really high and he just wanted power and he was also mad that he wasn't a rockstar is a racist a huge as well. Yeah yeah yeah. You're exactly right with that. He he believed that the song helter skelter spoke to him and predicted an.
Let's Start A Cult
"manson" Discussed on Let's Start A Cult
"Born on november twelfth nineteen thirty four in cincinnati ohio charles. Manson was the son of a sixteen year old prostitute named kathleen who often started and ended the day with a bottle of liquor which nowadays is pretty common but back in the days not so much the typical friday night. yeah exactly it's it's pandemic. it's fun. She christened her son. Charles mills mattocks eventually changing his surname to the now infamous manson. When she married a local man named william eugene manson who worked at a dry cleaning business from the get-go kathleen showed little interest in being a mother to her son. During one instance. She took him to a cafe where a waitress who found. Young charles adorable. Joey asked if she could buy him in response. Kathleen said that her son could be changed for a pitcher of alcohol after finishing this she got up left him at the cafe and never looked back. It took charles uncle several days of frantically searching for him throughout the entire town before he managed to locate the waitress So you to our parents. I don't know. Have you ever come into someone asking you to buy your kid. That seems a little weird not yet. Maybe we just having enough places with him. Kids just aren't better door to god. My question is. I hope that that bottle was like a good one then at least some top shelf liquor that was offered for. I'm gonna guess it wasn't. It was at a cafe like this is what we have under the counter. This is. This is what i brought into work today. So here you go. Yeah so pretty terrible. Start to his childhood already. You can clearly see where some of his repressed emotions come one. Hundred percent
Let's Start A Cult
Taking an in-Depth Look at the Life of Charles Manson
"Born on november twelfth nineteen thirty four in cincinnati ohio charles. Manson was the son of a sixteen year old prostitute named kathleen who often started and ended the day with a bottle of liquor which nowadays is pretty common but back in the days not so much the typical friday night. yeah exactly it's it's pandemic. it's fun. She christened her son. Charles mills mattocks eventually changing his surname to the now infamous manson. When she married a local man named william eugene manson who worked at a dry cleaning business from the get-go kathleen showed little interest in being a mother to her son. During one instance. She took him to a cafe where a waitress who found. Young charles adorable. Joey asked if she could buy him in response. Kathleen said that her son could be changed for a pitcher of alcohol after finishing this she got up left him at the cafe and never looked back. It took charles uncle several days of frantically searching for him throughout the entire town before he managed to locate the waitress So you to our parents. I don't know. Have you ever come into someone asking you to buy your kid. That seems a little weird not yet. Maybe we just having enough places with him. Kids just aren't better door to god. My question is. I hope that that bottle was like a good one then at least some top shelf liquor that was offered for. I'm gonna guess it wasn't. It was at a cafe like this is what we have under the counter. This is. This is what i brought into work today. So here you go. Yeah so pretty terrible. Start to his childhood already. You can clearly see where some of his repressed emotions come one. Hundred percent
BBC World Service
Marilyn Manson Wanted in Assault in New Hampshire
"They relate to an incident involving a videographer in 2019. And Ecuador has confirmed that a giant tortoise found on one of the Galapagos Islands sees from a species believed to be
Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
Actor Esmé Bianco Says Marilyn Manson Repeatedly Abused Her
"And game of thrones actor bianco has sued marilyn manson alleging sexual physical and emotional abuse. She filed the lawsuit in los angeles federal court. Friday manson's attorney says the allegations are false and they will prove it in
News, Traffic and Weather
Actor Esmé Bianco Sues Marilyn Manson, Alleging Sexual Abuse
"Facing more claims of sexual abuse game of Thrones actress as May, Bianco has filed a lawsuit against the singer saying he physically sexually and emotionally abused her and her lawyer tells ABC News. Bianca was interviewed by the FBI and gave them evidence relating to human sex trafficking crimes. No comment from Manson and CIA's
X96
"manson" Discussed on X96
"G. 15 year old Indian kid billed as a perfect master. Who claimed millions of followers around the world It's done most of the rest of Mr Davis's career found him trying to blend the political radicalism of his twenties with an entrepreneurial sort of Put pastiche of progressive or new age agendas, so it became kind of a new age. Sort of blissed out character in his later life. Um Marilyn Manson. Mm hmm. Uh, well, they have a photographer is alleged that Marilyn Manson forced females to strip Assed part of a warp sex game with him. Erika von Stein alleges that Mr Manson real name Brian. He Warner also Applied fans with alcohol before ordering them to take off their clothes. Speaking to the mirror. Miss von Stein said she was picked from a crowd of fans by Manson's minders and escorted to his tour bus. She then allegedly hit in the back of a group as the musician pointed at a group of women and instructed them to take off their tops. She? She claims he wanted to see who had the best. Yes, we've had him take off all their clothes, but a garbage person. This is according to her. Everyone was a bit surprised. He made it feel normal like it was something fun to do. Garbage person. Go away. Let's see the Coronavirus. Deaths here in Utah reported on Sunday. Less than 1000. Was good day for the reports. It was. Let's see 903 is the numbers I recall 903 reported cases, new infections and only three deaths. Reported on Sunday. Well. Joe Biden, President Biden I saw A little bit of his Interview. I saw I think I saw all of it would know Norah O'Donnell right before the Super Bowl and You know, it's like having your It's like having a really nice grandpa. For your own good. It feels good, doesn't it? The first weeks of the Biden administration have been Huge con pressed. I mean, it's been kind of boring. I want more great, please. I've been a striking contrast to the chaos and turmoil. Of the Trump administration, bringing a sense of normality back to the White House and to government. Uh, President Grandpa. Along with very Vice President Harris. They begin each day receiving the president's daily brief like you're supposed to Usually before 10 A.m.. His administration has revived the White House daily briefings every single week day. He's also putting Kamila Harris up front at a lot of things. She goes and does the swearing the ends and the ceremonial things and He wants her to be upfront as much as possible. Majority of Americans polled say that they think Donald Trump should be convicted. And barred from holding federal office in the impeachment trial that's coming up. Island cold, But I would say that where I pulled, it's probably not gonna happen because, like the four members of Utah's congressional delegation, Utah's for members of the House They voted against stripping committee assignments from representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. Because of her support of Q and on, But that's okay with Burgess. That's okay with Chris Stewart and what's his name down in Utah County, Curtis And the new guy, Blakemore. I think his name is from They're all okay with it fairly and they're all okay. And you know, there's their argument. Their argument is well, it should be the Republicans that sent your Republicans and I agree with that, but they didn't They were fine with it so they could have voted to strip her of No, That's what I'm saying that if you ask all of those Congress people why they why they didn't. They said that shouldn't be a Democratic controlled Congress that strips her. It should have been our party that stripped her, but they didn't so The Democrats had to do something. Yes, well. She should just be kicked out of Congress. Yes, I mean, that's that's the bottom line. She shouldn't be there at all. She lets see. When Michael Flynn back in the news with prominently he's gone from, you know, being could well. Confessing toe lying to the federal government, the FBI about meetings with Russians before the election. Lying about all of that kind of stuff. This is a man who was a respected general at one time you recall at one time? Yes, and he became he went into the White House and Anyway. He was He confessed to lying, and he was charged, but Donald Trump pardoned him, and now he's out front again. Being his vocal is possible, pushing. The stolen election lie and any other Cuban on theory that comes up. He's for it. He's Oh, he's their eminence him and his son. And a California man. Lost his wallet. And and Arctic up. Has had the wallet returned after 53 years. All Grisham. Of San Diego, California, arrived in Antarctica in October of 1967 as a meteorologist for the United States Navy At some point during the 13 month assignment in Antarctica. He lost his wallet and eventually he, of course, forgot about it until last week. I was just blown away, Mr Gresham said after he received the wallet by mail on Saturday. There was a long syriza people involved who tracked me down and ran me to ground and returned the wallet. According to the newspaper. Mr Grisham's wallet had plenty of Mementos from his time on and article, but but damn it, the money was missing. They left his I D. But they something? No. Um, so anyway, there you go. That's it. All right. Sports weather traffic. Well, we've talked a lot about the Super Bowl this morning. We haven't talked about the 17th annual Puppy Bowl. It ended in dramatic fashion on Sunday with a come from behind win by team rough. Trailing by three points with under a minute left team. Ruff's big boss, Polly He's a Dutch shepherd mix sprinted for a touchdown is the clock ran out Team rough to Pete defeated team fluff in a final score of 73 69 to win Puppy Bowl. 17 Team ropes. Captain got the chewy lumbar key trophy, but really, we all one really, I didn't see any of it. I don't know how you could not be riveted to that. I usually jump back and forth. But for some reason, my TV box was not agreeing with me. So they don't do the longer rabel anymore. Same. No, no, sadly know that because I I thought it was really cool to see dogs in lingerie. He is pretty interesting. And everybody's talking about Tom Brady having one more Super Bowls. And is he the greatest ever and I liked this. Take on it, Which is well, Joey chest, not 8. 74 hot dogs in 10 minutes. Is he the greatest athlete? Yeah, That's a lot of team sport. It's not a team sport. That's that's that's the That's the only because otherwise it's Serena Williams. But that Z team so after Whether is dumb. I don't like it. I don't like.
AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
"manson" Discussed on AJ Benza: Fame is a Bitch
"Many years ago, Marilyn Manson wrote a book and he wrote in his book that Trent reznor and he got some chick blackout drunk and once she passed out, they both fucked her and had their way with her. That's what he wrote in his book. And after he read that, Trent reznor completely broke free from Marilyn Manson and is on record saying he fucking hates the guy and has had nothing to do with him for 25 years and the story he wrote is complete bullshit. He's a crazy liar and will do things like that just to get a rise out of people. You know, I believe Trent reznor, even though he wrote that song about wanting to fuck a girl like an animal, I still believe because I know a girl who went to his concert really, really beautiful girl, especially when she was 19. She was young and sexy as all get out. And she went to his show where she was very up close to the stage, clearly he mentioned, I like that shake down below. One of his underlings went and got her after the show and said, Trent wants you to come back and meet him backstage. So of course she goes, and when she went there, they were like, he's not in the room. He's around the corner. He was like, up a ramp in the arena alone. She went and see him. He's like very nice to me because you're really beautiful. I'd love to see you but we're leaving right away to go to the next city. Do you want to come and see us play I don't know Phoenix, whatever the fuck it was. And she's like, oh my God, that's amazing. Yeah, you get on the plane with us. We'll go, you know, I'll make sure you get home. You know, no problem. And she goes, well, God, I would love to. She goes, because well, how old are you? And she was 19. Which is legal, but he was classy enough to say, you know what? You know, maybe it's time for you to go home, hunt. Maybe the next time, why don't you come back in a couple of years and we'll make this happen again. Cool guy, not many guys would do that. I don't think Marilyn Manson has that in his repertoire. But Trent reznor did that. So I'll take him for his word when he says he never did to that girl. Manson claims they did.
KFI AM 640
"manson" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Maryland, Anson's talent agent has dropped him following accusations of sexual and psychological abuse by several women. The singer's record label already had given him the boot, and he got fired from a couple of TV shows. Manson was Says the allegations are are horrible distortions of reality, as he put it, and that all his intimate relationships have been consensual from the Southern California Toyota dealers. Traffic Center. We make it easy. We're going to go to Angel. She's going to give us the low down on this police chase. Yeah, the sidecar just went from West found Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard took a right, so he's heading heading south on Rodeo Road. So now he's passing Chesapeake south bound on Rodeo Road. Watch out if they silver sedan, hauling speeds up to 60 Miles an hour on the surface streets and not paying attention to the traffic signals. What a surprise right well, let's talk about a problem in the lesion Park area. This is a brush fire that's reported 1 10 North founded Academy Road. It's the three Might lanes are blocked off, and traffic is loaded away from the 101 K a pie in the sky Hopes get you there faster. I'm Angel Martinez, who ever really thinks they're gonna be hurt in an accident, right? But it can happen to anyone at any time. Sweet James Accident. Turney's They know it can change your life forever. Insurance company. The promises to protect you will prey on your vulnerability and take advantage of you when you need them. Most sweet James will not let that happen If you're hurt in an accident called.
MyTalk 107.1
"manson" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"That's why so got some project or exactly. Catherine. Hi. Eagle has a new Netflix series called Firefly Lane. So when anti lawyer is saying is that even though lots of Katherine Heikal projects in the past have been big stinkers, she got a most deal from Netflix. So that means Firefly late little fire fly lane. No matter how poorly it does is going to receive some kind of accolade from Netflix. That means it's going to be most ever watched, or most ever watched comedy or some other accolade that has no basis in reality, because Netflix is a little stingy with the numbers so they could basically say whatever they want. Nobody's nobody has access yet. Nobody has access, so we'll have to keep an eye out. On the reception to Firefly Lane. I like this, Um, speaking of keeping an eye out for things that anti lawyer says I do just want to really quickly close the loop on the conversation we had earlier in the show. We don't have time to touch on this. But maybe we can do some work on it Tomorrow. We'll definitely have more time to talk about this individual. Yes, He had a lot to say about Marilyn Manson and has over the years and I think once again where there's smoke, there's fire. And every time we see that anti lawyer had his finger on the pulse of what was going on, when nobody was talking about it, it lends credence to a lot of the things that we hear from anti lawyer so We had a sort of set aside some of those to talk about, but we just ended up not having time. Don't worry, we will get to it and know that anti lawyer has has been paying attention to Maryland, Manson and his behavior for quite some time. When we come back on the calling and Bradley show Okay. Maybe you heard yesterday that the Hollywood sign had a little bit of a makeover. If you didn't hear about it will tell you what the makeover was. It was short lived. But it made me think I didn't know a lot about the Hollywood sign, and I was wondering why it was such a big deal that people ended up getting arrested for this. And so I thought, Let's have a little history moment. We're gonna have a history minute on the Hollywood sign when we come back on the Colleen and Bradley show on my talk one of 71. It's no secret we might talkers love local businesses there The places that sponsor us the places we choose to shop at the places we go to eat or get take out from the places we go to see shows and plays even my talks a local business gay US Even though we're starting to see some pandemic optimism, small businesses still need our love. So my talk's gonna Help give it to them all month long will share some of our favorites and together..
MyTalk 107.1
"manson" Discussed on MyTalk 107.1
"Know, we're going to start with a really awkward cumbersome. Yes, we need to have a very awkward conversation. We're not awkward. The awkward is coming from Maryland Manson. I mean, we are awkward, too. It's a long story. But today We need to start with Marilyn Manson because we began to hear about some controversy surrounding Well, Evan Rachel Wood made an announcement that Marilyn Manson horrific. Lee abused her for years. That story kind of blew up this week. Um, It's not that we didn't have reason to suspect Maryland. Manson was a problematic figure. We'll talk about that a little bit more in a minute, but I wanted to tell you that we kick things off today, learning That Maryland. Manson has already suffering the consequences of that controversy after being dropped by his record label amid these abuse. Allegations, and I'll just tell you a little bit about our read you a little bit of the statement. From His record label. Loma Vista Recordings. Quote in Light of today. That is yesterday's disturbing allegations by Evan Rachel Wood and other women naming Marilyn Manson as their abuser. Loma Vista will cease to further promote his current album, effective immediately due to these concerning developments. We have also decided not to work with Marilyn Manson on any future projects, so that is Immediate Result to the controversy in the allegations that Again to put it bluntly blew up yesterday. Well, you know what I think is really interesting, and I'm sort of just arriving to the scene. Because I don't pay a lot of attention to Marylin Manson. It seems like the consequences have arrived a little too late. And I'm saying that because I read this op Ed, um from NBC News, written by Jill flip of IQ. Philip Philip. Oh, Vic. Sorry, Philip. Oh, Vic, who, by the way, is the author of a book called Okay, Boomer. Let's talk how my generation got left behind, and she basically says he guys f Y I Um, you're all arriving to this story about Maryland. Manson about Like 20 years too late. And what she does is she goes through. Conversations that have been had with both Evan Rachel Wood and Marilyn Manson. That basically say Hey, it didn't take you know it didn't take You know a Sherlock Holmes detective to figure out that Evan Rachel Wood has been talking about this. And Maryland, Manson has been talking about his treatment of her all along. And it goes back to, um, a few years ago when Evan will Evan Rachel what has always been very open about the fact that she was in an abusive relationship when she was in her late teens. But more specifically, she actually testified in a in an effort to get a law passed called the Phoenix Act. And this is the Phoenix Act is The the act in the state of California that extends the statute of limitations on abusive relationships. Okay, so she testified before Congress. About her experience in an abusive relationship, and in this in this testimony, she talked about a man she dated when she was 18 years old. Okay, again. Hello, 18. It does not take A private investigator to figure out that that was Maryland Manson. They were they had a public relationship. She talks about? How he groomed her when he began growing her when she was about 18 years old. He physically abused her, deprived her of sleep, starved her and stocked her when she tried to leave him by calling her incessantly. Now. Meanwhile, Over here in 2009 in an interview with Spin magazine, Marilyn Manson is talking about this very thing, he says of his relationship with Evan Rachel Wood. In 2009. Okay, So that's 12 years ago? Yep. He says he called Evan Rachel Wood 158 times while self mutilating and then blamed her for it. He said. Quote. I wanted to show her the pain she put me through. It was like I want you to physically see what you've done. So sit with that for a second. He's calling her 158 times while he is inflicting Pain on himself. To show her what he has done to her and then other others, So I mean I could go on. But there's other stories about him in another interview, saying that he has fantasies about smashing her skull with a sledgehammer. So what this says to me is what we've already learned in other situations similar to this. This behavior was allowed to continue in plain sight. Maybe People were choosing not to see it, so they just walked right by it right. But the evidence was still there in a culture at a time and a place where people didn't take this kind of thing seriously. And Marilyn Manson, much like a lot of other celebrities who have now been called to account for their behavior was able to operate in this manner without Level of seriousness that, in retrospect, seems totally warranted. And sadly. Not taken seriously at all. What I mean by that is like very clearly he was showing us who he was, as you said, And the difference is that no. Nobody took things seriously. Then we're now in a culture post me to where people the and I shouldn't say people because I'm sure there were many people who took this seriously. But institutions now take these things seriously in a way that they did not before, right, right, And I think it's sort of I don't know. This could act as a cautionary tale to the Army hammers. Shall we say of today and others where you if if you were speaking so brazenly aloud about Behaviors that you engage in, um, that are abusive in nature. Yeah. The onus is on. Both of the onus is on us to believe that, but it's a little bit like that frog in boiling water. The more Maryland Manson talked, the more he normalized his behavior. And the more we allowed for it right, So he's making these again..