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What the Shell? Cracking the Lobster's Mysteries
"I still get emails about this episode of the show friends where Ross and Rachel the characters finally hookup after this law. Middle Row Manson phoebe is Kinda Tree hugger in the group She's like Oh look I knew it. Her lobster. Because, she has this kind of pop culture idea going that lobsters made life. In, there it's going to happen. How did you know that? Because she's your lobster on you guys, it's a known fact that lobsters fall love and mate for life and you know you can actually see old lobster couples walking around their tank. Hoping 'cause. They. Are lobster. All these years later, I can still hear phoebe in my head saying bad. She convinced millions of people that lobsters are super romantic on the all I care is that lobsters are super delicious but I guess it's good that they have some happiness before ending up inside a buttered roll. Delicious Delicious Lobster Roll I live in New England and Lobster are pretty much the pinnacle of summer here. Perfect for the latest episode of gastropod The podcast that looks at food. Through the Lens of Science in history I'm Cynthia Graber and I'm Nicola Twilley and this episode we're considering the lobster like first things I do lobster's really have lifelong love affairs as phoebe claims or are there relationships a little more complicated than that heads up for those of you listening with folks who might find lobster sex little too steamy. Sorry. But this episode really does get into it with the lobster bedroom action you have been warned time getting a little worm. Already but speaking of steamy, how did steamed lobsters go from prison fair to the highest chalance a fine dining out of the lobster go from trashy too fancy and finally, what does the military one with our lobsters quick note from our last episode for you Baker's out there some listeners. Let us know that American pyrex is no longer borough silica glass. European. PYREX is which is great. But American. PYREX is now made of tempered Soda Lime Glass which is the same. Stuff as drinking glasses, but the tempering means it's harder and also heat resistant, but it's not quite as shatterproof Hasbro Silica class. So Americans can cook in this new PYREX. There's a lot of fine print from the company about how to use. It can actually shatter. We've updated the episode, but we also wanted those of you who already listen to know and be careful if you've got the newer American pyrex exploding glass is not a fun mix in cakes and casseroles. Couple of weeks ago I had to Maine, with my partner Tim for some very critical gastropod research someone has to do the hard work on this show Cynthia taking one for the team like the hero she is. I'M GONNA see how easy it is to crack this lobster shell. They didn't give me any like cranky things. How do I crack a lobster? Without a lobster cracker to bring your own. It didn't say turns out. All I had to do is go back to where the Napkins were and grab a nutcracker okay. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA try. Okay. That's not so bad. So the cracking wasn't super hard to do, and then I sat right into gorge myself on all that delicious lobster meat of course, all the while dipping it into the cup of melted butter. One of the very few things I miss about living on the east coast is the summertime lobster roll. I personally am a hot butter girl although I won't turn down a Cold Mayo. Role I'm equal opportunity when it comes to lobster roll I love lobster rolls. I also love whole steamed lobsters as you listeners all just heard and some are really is the height of lobster season here. It's when the waters closer to shore warm up and the lobsters crawl into that shallower water to and mate, and they also happen to crawl into lots of local lobster traps. Summer is also when the shore in. New. England finally. Warms up enough for lots of tourists to crawl out onto it and enjoy a summer vacation tourists like Trevor Corson of the book, the secret life of lobsters my grandparents were summer visitors to Maine when I was a little kid and we would go visit them there and as a very small child, I was completely entrenched with the lobster boats when they would come into the dock. So watch them unload their lobster catch and to me, the lobstermen were were like these cowboys of the East you know they were these romantic rugged individualism and I was so angered of of them in their boats that I had decided already. Pretty. Early on when I was a kid I was going to grow up to be a Lobsterman and that didn't plan pan out. At all trevor became a writer instead, which as everyone knows is way less glamorous but he figured out a way to finagle himself into becoming a temporary lobstermen by writing a book about it, and so I actually moved to the small island. You know with seventy people on it year round in the winter and lived there for two years and became what's called a stern man on a lobster boat fishermen used often the term fishermen are stern man in a gender neutral way. There are females who call themselves that as
Culture Cults Week
"This week's theme comes to us from Sean Abraham Preston and is called culture colts. Here's why Sean chose this theme. He writes. Hi. I'm Sean Abraham Preston and the theme I chose is culture. Cults Chose the theme because I'm fascinated with Howard devotion to new cultural ideals can cross over into spirituality in the worship of other people oftentimes with dark consequences. Were especially vulnerable to this when we're searching for meaning in Tumultuous Times of change. Like twenty twenty, for example. Here, are the episodes chosen by Sean for this week's theme along with short descriptions of each episode. The first one comes to us from the podcast strangers and is called the sun the Goddess Leopoldo. It's forty six minutes long. Here's the description. Born in a coven of lesbian witches in a Haight Ashbury commune after the fall of Saigon Young Joshua Safran soon hit the open road with his single mother and things only got stranger from there. A. Word of warning this story contained some disturbing moments. The next episode comes to us from. You must remember this is called Charles Manson's Hollywood part three, the beach boys, Dennis Wilson and Charles Manson Songwriter. It's forty seven minutes long. Here's the description. In this episode, we'll talk about Charlie Manson's arrival in Los Angeles. We'll discuss Dennis Wilson's life and the role he played in enabling Manson's rock and roll delusions, and we'll explain how the beach boys came to record a song written by Charles Manson. The next episode comes to us from friends of the friend called the beautiful cripple part one. It's forty nine minutes long. Marilyn Manson fan and a Silicon Valley's tech, Colt Cross paths in an adventure that ends in supernatural sex and murder. The next episode comes to us from Decoder Ring and is called the basement affair. It's forty three minutes long. Here's the description. What are the real reasons people go on reality? TV. This episode follows the story of an Hirsch and Kathy Nardone two women cast on VH1's Frank. The entertainer in a basement affair a show about an adult man looking for love while living in his parent's basement. How did one performance artists and one accidental performance artists make it onto the show and how did they behave once they made it their. Their story highlights the ways that reality television distorts narratives, obscures intentions, and stereotypes women, yet it's still irresistible to audiences and performers like. The last episode of the week comes to us from invisible era and is called the end of empathy. It's fifty two minutes long. Here's the description. In. Is a show that runs on empathy we believe in it, but are we right? In this episode, we'll let you decide. We tell you the same story twice in order to examine the questions who deserves our empathy and is there a wrong way to empathize? Those are the episodes chosen by Sean for this week's theme Culture Colts.
Source: Seahawks CB cut after hotel guest sneak
"Tom Powell Sarah the NFL network just tweeted this that the seahawks cut rookie cornerback chemists sovereign this week. After he was caught on video trying to seek a female visitor into the team hotel per team espn is not reporting this. This is Tom Pal Cerro of the NFL network but a clear message said, and he followed that up saying the woman was wearing seahawks gear in an attempt to skies as a player he is told did not work. So we'll wait and see if that ends up being true but even if it's not my God, what an unbelievably rookie thing to try and do if there is one word we've been talking about show that Manson grace. He put the effort in he with the effort into trying to get her disguised this. Like believed this thing that we're worried about in all of this like well, we're going to laugh at this like this is the kind of thing that torpedoes everyone's efforts. In all of this we're joking about it, but the real aspect is it's the rookie. Younger. And hopefully. The will hold. Hold him accountable especially because if you want a successful season you have and we have to say his name in the public unfortunately because that's what made the NBA players I believe stay on point after seeing what happened to. Lou will so yeah no that the public accountability and it's almost public shaming of it. We talked so much in the NBA they had that chatter line everyone called snitch line, but. Sometimes calling people out like that in the midst of the bubbles the difficult thing but you want to do what's right in terms of health and safety on this absolutely wants you and I think it's no joke when it comes down to it, we understand that everyone has needs and this is why we're joking about the guest list and who's who gets in WHO's not. But the reality is that we've got to play it safe, and if you want to be successful in order to play, don't risk your self or others and don't try to play it. Cool by dressing her up and your team's apparel just to get around come on come on.
Bad News For Prince Andrew As New Witness Comes Forward
"Let's move onto Prince Andrew can remind us how he started this year. He had been basically sacked from the royal family which we take subduing. He was essentially stripped of all his royal duties after his completely disastrous Newsnight interview y have you decided to talk now? because. There is no good time. To Talk, about Mr Epstein and. All things associated in Andrews Newsnight interview his big defense really aside from the fact that he of how they can't sweat and he's a big patron of the pizza. Express woking is that he didn't really know Jeffrey Epstein he claims he only knew him through his friend Glenn, bloom it through his girlfriend. Back, in nineteen, ninety nine, who an I'd known her since she. In the UK this is all Remember that it was his girlfriend. That was the key element in this he was the. Plus. One to some extent in an expert. You through a birthday party for since girlfriend then Maxwell at Sandringham. No shooting weekend a shooting weeks straightforward straightforward for choosing weekend. Despite the fact you know Jeffrey Epstein was at the Palace went to Epstein. Manson had dinner for him. He stayed with Epstein because because Andrew just couldn't find a central Manhattan hotel he's very convenient epsteins mentioned it was a convenient place to stay. I mean I've gone through this in my mind so many times. At the end of the day. with the benefit of all the hindsight that one can have. It was definitely the wrong thing to do is you say that interview was a disaster foundry and he was forced to withdraw from his rural Gt's I'm imagining heat hopes that would draw a line under the whole thing for him but then in July galet maxwell was arrested. The risks are simply too great. The words of the judge refusing bail this evening to maximum the one time girlfriend an alleged accomplice of the sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, might saw pleaded not guilty the hearing by video link on charges she helped recruit and groom minors as young as fourteen. So she was arrested in her strange though Bolthole and a few weeks later, a bunch of documents unsealed from a two thousand fifteen civil action brought against her by Virginia. Robert Scott Free and price price whose name pops up again it's Jews You know a lot of the allegations in these documents were already known but what is new is the allegation that? Forced Virginia Robert Scott Free to have sex with Prince Andrew as a way to gather incriminating evidence against him. And then on top of that, this month of witnesses come forward claiming to have seen the Duke of York, at trump nightclub on the night he insisted in the Newsnight interview that he was at Pizza Express in woking why would you remember that? So specifically, why would you remember a pizza best birthday in being because going to pizza express in working is an unusual thing for me to do. So he obviously hit denies everything but the circle is definitely tightening around Andrew. US. Law Enforcement has said repeatedly they want to talk to him that he has been cooperative a war of words as I'm sure you know has broken out between Prince Andrew and the US authorities investigating sex offender Jeffrey. Exiting The prince claims that he has offered to help that inquired eat city times but this is something the American prosecutors deny effectively calling him a liar the palace hopefully insisted this is untrue and US law enforcement has repeated it. So this is where we are at the moment. Do you think this puts more pressure on Andrew to cooperate with the investigation? Me The idea of any member of the royal family cooperating Larry's but yes, I mean absolutely. But I mean the fact that he was saying such stuff in that interview emily weightless without realizing how terrible the sounded I mean just shows he has no sense of consequences for his actions. I'm Jay his sin said, he regrets his ill-judged Association with Epstein. But as you point out, these aren't incredibly serious allegations and yet everybody feels like his story that dozen attract as many column, Inches Harry, and Meghan. Let's I think this is the thing when talking about the role families so much tension and I've just done two is focused on Harry Megan and the stupid decisions they make in his make it actually lady Macbeth is very telling for example, the mail there's certain Cole missed the male who I'm not gonNA pollute podcast listener's ears with his name, but he is completely obsessive. Meghan. Markle. Interest. Rates. Endless combs about her I. Don't like to own Andrew or something Sierra. Let's just bear in mind that actually the royal to really be focused on is Andrew
Board Recommends Parole for Manson Follower Leslie Van Houten
"Has recommended parole for Charles Manson follower Leslie Van Hatton, who has spent nearly five decades in prison. The recommendation was made Thursday, but Governor Newsome could decide to deny it. Newsome block to release once before than his predecessor, Jerry Brown, blocked it twice. Manhattan is serving Ah life sentence for helping Charles Manson. Others kill Los Angeles grocer Lino LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary in 1969 that Helen was 19 when she and other members of the Manson family stabbed the La Bianca is to death and smear the couple's blood on the walls, writing words like helter skelter and death to pigs. An
Democrats push $3T coronavirus relief bill toward House OK
"And the house has approved a massive new stimulus bill to help deal the economic fallout for the coronavirus outbreak Matt Manson reports New York Democrat Hakeem Jeffries supported the roughly three trillion dollar measure there is pain they were suffering there is death throughout the land Congress must act to provide relief to the American people the bill includes more money for cash strapped state and local governments hazard pay for frontline workers and another round of stimulus checks for Americans it would also extend increased unemployment
Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov has been hospitalized for coronavirus
"Crowed of iris is reaching the highest levels of the Russian government a Kremlin spokesman is now among the more than two hundred thirty thousand people in Russia test positive and Paris Charles Manson's coronavirus cases in Russia are climbing president Vladimir Putin's longtime spokesman Dmitry Peskov now joins the list of Kremlin insiders who've tested positive for the corona virus in an interview with Russian state media Peskov said he was getting treatment in hospital and then the last met with Putin over a month ago and pose no risk to the Russian leader whose prime minister Mikhail misused and step down from his duties earlier this month after he contracted the virus so too has put as minister of culture and the head of Russia's state infrastructure projects despite the rise in infections inside the Kremlin and among the population at large Tuesday marked the end of a six week nationwide work stoppage it's now up to regional authorities to tailor their response in combating the outbreak Charles Maynes NPR news
Vladimir Putin's spokesman hospitalized with coronavirus infection
"Coronavirus is reaching the highest levels of the Russian government a Kremlin spokesman is now among the more than two hundred thirty thousand people in Russia test positive and Paris Charles Manson's coronavirus cases in Russia are climbing president Vladimir Putin's longtime spokesman Dmitry Peskov now joins the list of Kremlin and others who've tested positive for the corona virus in an interview with Russian state media Pascoe said he was getting treatment in hospital and then the last met with Putin over a month ago and pose no risk to the Russian leader whose prime minister Mikhail misused and step down from his duties earlier this month after he contracted the virus so too has put as minister of culture and the head of Russia's state infrastructure projects despite the rise in infections inside the Kremlin and among the population at large Tuesday marked the end of a six week nationwide work stoppage it's now up to regional authorities to tailor their response in combating the outbreak Charles Maynes NPR news
Cults Daily: "The Manson Family" Charles Manson
"Hi I'm Vanessa. Richardson and this is colts. Podcast original this is the fourteenth episode in our Daily Series on the strange prophecies made by different cults and their leaders throughout this month. Were taking a daily look at the myriad of apocalyptic predictions to try and uncover. What makes these revelations so appealing? I'm here with my co host. Greg Paulson everyone today. We're examining Charles. Manson a failed musician turned cult leader. Who CLAIMED TO BE JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF? He called his followers. The family in promise that they'd rule the post apocalyptic world after a massive race for destroyed civilization in the nineteen sixties. Charles Manson was an aspiring musician living in Los Angeles but unlike other music Aficionados Manson didn't just love pop for its beats and lyrics. Rock and roll hits spoke to him literally. Manson reportedly believe that songs like the Beatles skelter contained hidden references to a coming race war. Although the tune is actually about a whirling amusement park ride Manson took it to mean that a war between people and white people would destabilise American society. The fight would culminate in a vicious slaughter. According Manson black people would kill every white person in the United States except for him and his followers. Who would ride out the combat in an underground bunker? At the end of the battle Manson's cult called the family would emerge and rule over the survivors. Atlantic says all this sounds. Manson was a master manipulator. The family fully believed as claims about the coming war as well as his assertions that he was. Jesus Christ unquestioningly. They prepared for the prophesied apocalypse. Manson insisted that the fighting would break out any day. But by the summer of nineteen sixty nine there was still no race war in America hoping to get things moving. He ordered his followers to murder. The white residents of one zero zero five zero Cielo drive. They did so just after midnight on August ninth then dressed the crime scene to make it look like the militant black. Panthers had committed the homicide the next night he ordered his followers to kill Lino and Rosemary Labianca a couple living on waverly drive after the murders Manson pocketed rosemary's wallet hoping to Lebed in a predominantly black Los Angeles neighborhood and point suspicion toward the People. Who lived there but the police weren't fooled. They were aware of the family and rated Manson's compound numerous times for thefts by winter. They've made the connection between the Doomsday. Cult and the spate of Los Angeles killings in December Manson and several followers were arrested and tried for the Tate Labianca killings on January twenty fifth nineteen seventy-one Charles. Manson was found
Luis Venegas on Print Media in an Age of Uncertainty
"Kind of Dream. Save like well someday. I will like to do my own magazine. And since the first one zero seven that was that was in two thousand four. I mean it's like a sixteen years ago and even blocks back event. Where can starting seeing so I mean for me? There was no option. Maybe if I was thinking about when amazing today new I will start with digit or something but at that time I mean black from that the next stage to remain starting little by little. I mean he wasn't something I am not also he wasn't the thing that I will related to the time so yeah. I tried to start and I made them less now. You see you say that if doing something now you imagine it might be digital but I think what I've always loved about what you do. Is that you you honor the magazine as the Phantom jet. You know when when when I think about the magazines that I when I left New Zealand in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. I had three suitcases and one of them was full of magazine and it was. It was like my favorite magazines. It was the life magazine. Charles Manson on the front and it was very the very first issue of Fabulous magazine with the Beatles on the front and it was a David Bowie. God knows they're actually the only ones that are in plastic. I mean everything else Everywhere but the actual physicality of magazine is something that you ana That you very deliberately set out to do with candy. Which was to take your subject. You'll the marginalized people that you wanted to focus on and give them the absolute multi Vogue Treatment Make Candy as glossy and gorgeous and in disposable as it possibly could be guests douglas. The the I mean I I the I mean. When I started to plan the Doing Candy I felt like it was. It should be something white up the opposite of Dr Magazine I wanted to be glossy on his DS huge celebration of all the subjects and although modest that I was hoping to treat in China amazing show. It's not about them. Tell us about. You'll you'll subjects yet. Well as candidate is focus on what I call the transversal. A people People many people I mean the people who know can be maybe often they think is a trans for transgender magazine. But it's not only about trans or transgender people is also an Rajini stays gender nonconformity people drag queens and also The gender people who suddenly go for transformation for one day for a shoot for fun so for me but was the. That's what Games Branka exactly. The BEBOP Franco puts on the coat. Or like it's for Spanish versus kind of ask you about that is so the thing is like I. I said All of those manifestations basically everything that was like Okay go fuck. Gender Denver doesn't matter. Let's celebrate everything. Well if matters of course but it doesn't matter in a way you know as like Let's focus on everything that has to be. Celebrate the around all those many stations. And that's how it came with bursts of grants because it means going from one place another transitioning going you know and then universal transversal. It felt like okay. Maybe this is the word in a way and That's the magazine focus on. I felt like fashion was for a long time taking inspiration from all the transversal world but never pay back. You know it never it never. I mean that was very all of these aren't by Conde. Dining was something about. The people didn't really know many people who can deduct it was maybe it wasn't obscure subject before especially the younger generations. Sheds Allegra K. Let's put it all together in a magazine. Let's see what happens. Let's see he's going to explode or survive? I don't know but you don't want it to be like a political steam or something like a political statement. I want it to be a celebration. Actually a celebration of style. A celebration of awesome intelligence way on humor and everything that's related to fashioning to celebrate the although stinks and indefinitely broad broadening. The concept abuse. See as well Just making beauty side much more of an inclusive idea taking the traditional fashion magazine approach to beauty and then just In
11 Trivia Questions on Rick and Morty Episodes
"All right guys. Here we go. This one's called Rick and morty episode title references. So I'm going to give you the name of a brick and mortar episode and you me what that is referencing in some way. Sometimes it's a play on words or a parody of title so have fun with this one. Here's number one lawnmower. Dog Number One. Rick and morty episodes number one what is that referencing lawnmower dog number two is Anatomy Park Anatomy Park Number? Three raising gas rope. Zap number three raising gastropod number. Four morty night run number. Four morty night run number five. Total Rick all number five Total Rick. All number six. The rix must be crazy number six. The risks must be crazy number. Seven big trouble in Little Sanchez number. Seven big trouble in Little Sanchez. Number Eight Look. Who's purging now? Number eight lose pershing now number nine. The wedding squanders. The wedding squanders number ten Rick Manson the Stone Rick Manning the stone and the bonus question for two points there's an episode called the ABC's of blank fill in the blank. There's an episode called the ABC's of blank. Those are all your questions for Rick and more. The episode title references will be right back in just a second with the Zany answers are guys rick. And morty episodes number one. Let's see how you did. Number one was lawnmower dog which was a reference to the crazy nineties. Movie Belong Mower Man. Lawnmower man number one number two anatomy park was of course a reference to Jurassic Park welcome to Jurassic Park number. Three raising GAZ. Rob is a reference to raising Arizona. The Coen Brothers Nicholas Cage movie about kidnapping a baby raising Arizona number four night run as a reference to the movie midnight. Run with Robert De Niro and Charles. Grodin number four midnight run number. Five total recall is very close to total. Recall the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Total Recall Number Six. The rix must be crazy. Was a comedy kind of documentary style. Film called the Gods must be crazy number six. The gods must be crazy number. Seven big trouble in Little Sanchez was a play on big trouble in little China. Big trouble in little China number eight look who's purging now could be looked at as reference to the purge but more likely with that title. Look who's talking now number eight. Look who's talking now number nine. The wedding squad plays off of the wedding. Crashers the Vince Vaughn Owen Wilson movie number. Nine wedding crashers number ten Rick Manning. The stone is the Michael. Douglas Movie Romancing the stone about a romance author going on and adventure number ten romancing the stone and for two points. The Rick and Morty bonus question for two points there's an episode called the ABC's of Bath so there's a horror sequel horror horror sequel call the ABC's of death and their play on that is the ABC's of Beth. So there you have it guys a fun quick round on Rick and morning. We've got four more rick. And morty rounds to come in the near future so if you want some more rick and morty action make sure you subscribe to the show to never miss a new episode. We have a question of the day for you and that question of the day is hosted the first ever. Snl Live at home during the covert Nineteen Crisis of two thousand twenty. Tweet me your answer at Ryan. Buds or email Ryan buds a g mail DOT COM with that hosts name to be eligible for prize. Yesterday's questioned that answer was the new radicals for the people. Who had the song you get what you give and attributing name of today's Third World Country Grammar Third World country and country grammar from Nelly Nelly band-aid was that all about thanks. So much for listening guys. Thanks for telling a friend of. We'll see you tomorrow for more. Trivia with me cheers
Steven Mintz on the Topics of Ethics
"We look to our leaders for strength reassurance we look to them for a plan a strategy that they have our best interests in their minds that's what we look to our leaders some in this country depending on we like we don't like but some are doing better than others some are leading better than others and I think the best leaders the best leaders to me are people who they surround themselves with good people they have good advisors they listen to those advisers now ultimately they make what they feel is the best decision it's on them to make the decision but to have strong voices around you within put and listen to that input and then ultimately make the decision and you have to be decisive and in a perfect world you are your real authentic and giving some hope look at it look at what's happening in our country the governors in five states California Ohio Illinois Massachusetts Washington closed bars restaurants wineries to stop the slow to stop the spread of the coronavirus mayors and in major cities have done the same and that poses a lot of questions should they have the authority is it ethical for the government to shut down private businesses Dr Stephen manse is an author he's got a book out beyond happiness and meaning transforming your life through ethical behavior he's on the centerpoint energy's home service plus hotline Dr Mintz good morning Hey thanks for thanks for speaking with us on this and I'll start with the question that I posed before yeah we see restaurants and bars being shut down schools now shut down here in Minnesota I guess where does the ethical responsibility lie in something like this the schools I think have to exercise personal responsibility they don't want to be in a situation where they're exposing young children to maybe staff or teachers who have the virus or made may be subject to getting the virus it doesn't seem to be transmitted readily from children the children of the nun who have come down with it but you know it's one of the situations where you want to be safe rather than sorry and one one state desert and other state does it may follow the lead and that's you know it's just very conservatively reproach the situation yeah N. N. as we've seen this thing unfold here over the last week what's been your impression of of what you've seen the next messages from the administration with president trump's saying too much no big deal this too will pass and the scientists saying no this is a serious matter we have to hunker down personally I think the reaction of the public is they believe the scientists and we have a lack of credibility from the administration and that's part of the reason the stock market is gyrating up and down they don't know what to do they don't know who to believe and they don't know what's coming next universal and personal responsibility we're we're asked to give up a lot of freedoms which is not a very positive thing people don't want that in the United States most people seem to seem to be taking it to heart but can you hear stories like you know people buying enough toilet paper to last to the end of the year and price gouging and that somebody getting on an airplane jet blue plane and they were waiting for the car coronavirus test so personal responsibility is a big issue was well yeah Dr men's what do you think about your you'd mention the leadership in president trump and kind of downplayed it he's done it a couple times where do you live in terms of you know what a leader has to get up there and make sure that there's not mass hysteria but it may be almost down play situations like that do they have a responsibility to come out and tell the the full truth yes absolutely it's kind of these truthful it's got to be credible and it needs to be complete transparency we don't need to be misled at this point having mixed messages and honesty is an ethical value maybe the most important ethical value and I think it's lacking and that's why you see some of the disruption in stores I know in California we've had some skirmishes in stores in Pasco and so on and these buying sprees that I mentioned before yeah let let me jump off that too he's doctor Stephen Manson's book beyond happiness and meaning transforming your life through ethical behavior and if you want to learn more about him it's Steve men's ethics dot com what let let me ask you about the role that that social media has played in all this too I I've argued that this is this is the first major I mean obviously the first major pandemic we we've we've had in the social media era but but people seen those images and seen those videos now where where before you would you know you would have seen him they would have been on the local news but now we see him all all directly what's your what's your take on on what we've experienced here experiencing the pandemic in a social media world yeah yeah well everybody Sir tune to social media it has a great influence on how people react and yeah we're going to see these images because it's the news and some aspects of what people want to see but social media has a responsibility as well to put out the word sacks the true facts and provide information on what we should do as individuals to stay safe and our loved ones and I'm not sure there is enough of that going on yeah what do you think what do you think the is headed over the next couple of weeks if I don't if you don't mind me asking yeah well I think it's going to get worse before it gets better that certainly was the situation in China and I I guess what I worry about is whether our personal man is going to be restricted obviously don't do that in China but it's in the star Tate of government the second work that well here to be told you can't go from state to state and city to city curfews if they were put in place may not be capped and I think you mentioned at the outset restaurants closing bars close now in California that's a recommendation now it's not a requirement so I'm not sure the people are going to follow that but it's yeah it's it's I think has four to six weeks ago my opinion yeah before we start to see the end of it and we still have that curves gets flattened as everybody yep yep Dr Steven Mintz we appreciate the time and your insight thank you so much thank you for having me you can learn more about him Steve Mintz ethics
The Zodiac Killer Pt. 2
"The Zodiac killer contacted the California press for the first time in letters to three bay area papers. He claimed he'd already murdered three people and threatened to kill more. He also included a bizarre coded message which he demanded the papers publish. The papers did with Zodiac asked and a little more than a week later. The cipher was cracked by a couple from Salinas. They revealed a chilling taunting message from the Zodiac. About how much he loved to kill at the time. The term serial killer was not widely understood but it was nonetheless clear that the Zodiac was unique and dangerous kind of criminal. He craved publicity and infamy and he would go to any lengths to get it. It was a frightening proposition but knowing the Zodiacs hunger for fame also gave authorities some valuable insight into the killer's mind. Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode please note. Vanessa is not licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for this show thanks Greg. Many people yearn for fame though not everyone actively seeks it. According to Dr Robert Fuller former president of Oberlin College. This is because power is unevenly distributed in society between. Somebody's and nobody's he writes. Nobody's are marginalized to the point of invisibility. Since humans are social creatures. Banishment carries a threat of being deprived of social and material resources critical to health and happiness and sometimes to survival itself. Fame promises an escape. This suggests that the Zodiac felt that becoming infamous would grant him power over others and would turn from a nobody to a somebody precisely the Zodiac. Was likely someone who felt marginalized in his everyday. Life seeking publicity and spreading. Panic might have made him feel more in control for a moment it looked like the Zodiac had gotten everything he desired his crimes. Were big news the talk of the nation but he was soon beaten that his own game on August eighth nineteen sixty nine the same day. His First Cypher was cracked his limelight was stolen by Charles Manson and his family after the brutal murder of five people including the pregnant actress. Sharon tate the Manson's were all the press. Could talk about. The celebrity of their victims granted the Manson family the edge over the Zodiac and this undoubtedly antagonized him to regain notoriety the Zodiac knew. He'd have to do something dramatic nearly two months later on September twenty seventh. He made his move that afternoon. Twenty Year Old Bryan Hartnell and twenty two year old. Cecelia shepard lay on a blanket by the shore of Lake Berry Sa. Brian and Cecilia had made the trip on a whim. They had previously dated but weren't together at the time under the shade of a large oak tree. They enjoyed each other's company and spoke quietly together around six PM. Cecilia noticed some movement in the trees nearby. Brian dismissed her worries. He initially assumed that another lake. Goer was relieving themselves in the woods as they were no bathrooms in the vicinity but he was wrong. Cecilia gassed as a strange man. Holding a pistol approach them from a few hundred feet away. The gun wasn't the only thing frightening about him. He wore some kind of long black hood over his face which extended down past his shoulders. On the man's chest. The symbol of guns crosshairs had been drawn the same symbol the Zodiac used to sign his letters. Neither Brian NOR CECILIA. Recognize the simple and had no idea they were face to face with a serial killer even so the gun and the outfit were more than enough to terrify. Cecilia. At around two hundred pounds and six feet he cut intimidating figure almost like a medieval executioner. Brian wasn't quite as scared as Cecilia. When the man I approached he assumed the getup was just a disguise stolen from a costume shop. Both he and Cecilia watched paralyzed as the man. Got Within seventy five feet of them when he stopped moving. Cecilia asked him what he wanted. The Stranger told them he was there to rob them and warn them against doing anything rash. Brian and Cecilia approached the man and gave him what money they had. Brian only had seventy five cents. But the stranger didn't seem too concerned. It a measured cold voice. He told Brian every little bit help then. He was quiet for a moment. It looked like the hooded man was thinking about what to say next without any provocation. He explained that he was an escaped convict from Montana. He claimed to be on the run to Mexico. Miraculously Brian was still relatively calm about the situation. He felt sure the man was only looking for their money. He hoped he could diffuse the tension by showing some kindness to the would be assailant in offered to write the check for some more money somewhat thrown by. Brian's offer the Zodiac clumsily. Refused his help at first when pressed he finally said he wanted. Brian's car keys. Brian searched for his case. Not sure if wade let them as he searched the Zodiac grew impatient and visibly anxious brain began to believe. The man was bluffing and casually asked if his gun was really loaded. The Stranger promised his gun was loaded and claimed he'd killed before then. He ordered Cecilia to Tie Brian. Up tossing her some clothes line from his pocket while she complied. Brian tried to talk to the stranger. A little more but only received a couple of terse answers the Zodiac Ben tied Sealy as hands in ordered both of them to lay face down so he could find their legs. Brian couldn't help protesting. It was getting dark around the lake and the temperature was getting lower in his mind. The Stranger had already gotten everything he wanted and couldn't understand why his legs had to be tied up the Zodiac pressed the gun into Brian's back and ordered him down again this time. Brian Obeyed and he and Cecilia late on the ground next to each other. Brian grimaced as the man hog tied him. He tried to keep a brave face for Sicilia but he was completely baffled by the situation. The stranger seemed so nervous and so careful. He didn't sound like the hardened criminal he claimed to be and yet he hadn't let down his guard throughout the encounter once the Zodiac has victims tied up. Brian's words no longer seem to have much effect when Brian asked if he was nervous. The Zodiac laughed. Brian followed up again. Asking if the gun was really loaded. The Zodiac Likely Hoping to finally terrify. His victim took the magazine out of the gun to show Brian the bullets. Then he holstered the weapon. It turned out he really hadn't been planning to shoot them instead. He'd brought a knife. Brian and Cecilia watched in horror as the hooded man. Pulled out a foot long blade from a sheath on his hips then without another word he jammed the knife into Brian's back
Lights, camera, Oscars: Meet the creators decolonizing Hollywood
"I'm Rosanna the dear child. Talking all about rewriting Hollywood's image of indigenous people from the inside and five indigenous. Writers Comics are doing just us that working on a brand new Sitcom for NBC. Called Rutherford falls unreserved producers. Tenant met up with them on the paramount studio lots in La just outside the writer's room where things can get a little silly job Tassell fulltime job. My name is Janisch meeting. I'M MITOCHONDRIA LAKOTA. And I'm a staff writer rather vol's my name's bobby. Wilson I'm secede secede Awan Awan Dakota and I think a little bit of White House staff writer Donahue. My name is Tania as Chavez. I am a citizen. If the Bishop how you tribe molly member one tribe relations are I am Navajo Pie in San Carlo Patchy achieve and I am the story editor on the jets. My name is Tyler Claire. I am Mohawk and mic-mac from from going to walk in Quebec and a staff writer on the show it's pretty great. AFC or analysis Hanish land nearby Cheektowaga Additionally my name is Sierra Teller Analysis I'm member of the Navajo Nation. I'm born of edgewater people in for the Mexican people and I'm also The Cook Creator of Rutherford Falls. I created the show with Ed Helms and Mike sure who both worked on the office in my created partner in Brooklyn I nine and the good place and so we've been working on this developing this idea for about a year and a half now. The show runner is really sort of like the boss. But they're also a conduit between in the producers and the other CO creators and the studio and the network and then also the writers so there's kind of jack-of-all-trades sort of shortstop position. I'm going to say that. This is the first native show runner in America and I would say this is the first TV show that has this many stuff writers and writers that Arnie if I could be wrong but I won't back down. Toss it would be my hype woman. The most basic question to start with what is referred falls. What is it about we such a hard time explaining what the show is? But it's awesome so like definitely spy side in there. I'm not it's all about the town of other falls which is this tiny town in upstate. New York that is adjacent to a native reservation and the town is sort of turned upside down own when there's talk of moving statue that commemorates the founder of the town. This Guy Lawrence Weatherford. And the last Rutherford to live in the town is this Guy Nathan in played by Ed Helms Nathan Rutherford and he just loses his mind over it. And because you sort of can't let go. It causes all these other dust ups in the town including his friendship. unshipped with Scroll Regan. Who is native American one of the things? I think that I love about Mike. Sure shows is that he sets out to really try to say something big in a super funny super assessable way talking about the bureaucracy of government with parks and REC or talking about like. What does it mean to be a good person with a good place and I were two picture shows? People be like what the hell are you talking new out but he has a way of sort of condensing and making it funny and making accessible way that I really enjoy and so I think we're talking a lot about like what are first stories. What does the American narrative? How does that American narrative affect all of us? And I think we've found a way to sort of make funny interesting version of that so for people who can't see where we are. Could you describe have a where we are. We're in a fort on an ancient Hollywood burial ground. There's a couple of Indians in there. I think Joey Ramone Well look at his heir where paramount pictures studio. So it actually is one of the oldest Hollywood studios you on point Bobby. This is the old blue studios which is on bay. Does your Anez and Lucille Ball. It's unoccupied territory and its content. It is one thousand percent haunted. We're surrounded by a lot of videos and so you get to walk past them on your way the office and like look in and see people making TV and movies. It's pretty wild everyday that I come here. I'm like holy. I can't believe this is my life. That's what I say. Every day we'll settle into the office very quickly very very quickly. Bobby put up artwork mark. We got rugs pillows. They got native real quick. Colonial settlers. We settled settled. It's actually one of the nicest writers rooms we've I've ever worked in. They usually look like these like really Friday sad dorms. It's preach ikya plants Manson furniture and blankets. It's nice so many gods so much I was a kid and I would go to my white friends houses they all have pantries ebbs and like French necks and lunch ables caprice and I didn't have that and so this kitchen I feel like is amazing. We are the rich kids now day one we were so like. Yeah if we'd have water beat the great shirts. Gosh I'd love to chat with you about how you work together. What is a day of work? Look like are you making each other laugh Just watched the movie black cloud. It's like that daddy issues. A lot of fights. There's one wall that we we can all punch his. I'm getting a lot of straight answers from the corner here. And it's a pretty traditional writer's room we blue sky and then we just go through and sit on a couch together and talk about the things that have happened in our lives. And that's what's look great but having so many native writers as I feel like being the only native right on a show and ask you a question you have to represent then everybody and what's so great here. I don't have the answer. There's a good chance one of the other writers we'll have it other native writers and that's so it's just so nice. There's such a weight off your shoulders. I was really amazed by how collaborative has been like. I thought we were going to be like Austin delegating. Some like random small space windowless room place. But we're actually like working together on couches is all day making jokes. It's phenomenal so what was the first day working together. Like I can't answer that because I feel like I have a moment. He's he's just a moment because this is the first time that I've had native colleagues in any workplace and it's so cool to come to work especially in TV and be around other native writers. When I had my first meeting with Sierra at Homs was in the room and her and I were just like talking points like she remembered he was there and she was like? Do you have anything that you say. And he was like no. He's this is amazing. And what's amazing is like we get to cut out Indian one on one and we just get to get on on with the humor and the stories and it's super cool. That's the most exciting thing for me that I know on the first day is that it was also the first time I think we've been the majority in any space. It like influences the vibe and the culture of the room for sure and it's just it feels really familial and it also also is I think influencing the storytelling quite a bit. It's it's pretty magical. And what about putting the writing team together were you part of that Sierra. So could you. Could you tell me about how you put a writing team together for this show. Sure I mean it's really just been like I sound like a Pollyanna but like a dream come true in a sense of like. I figured there'd be like one native writer later and have to fight for it and Mike was like. Oh no there should be like half. The room should be native but to two hundred between woman a white guy should be half and half and he just has such incredible influence so the three of us at Mike and I met with a bunch of different writers from all different backgrounds. And it was so cool that you're told all the time well there there aren't out there so it's GonNa be really hard and it really wasn't and it was just a really cool idea of like who are the funny native people that I know or discovering and then we put them all together with a bunch of other funny writers from different backgrounds and friends runs that I'd worked with before. It's a really exciting time because I feel like we're all getting to do something that is like genuinely funny genuinely interesting but also very much from a native have perspective and kind of juxtaposed that with a traditional white American perspective. I think we're going to have multiple native characters. There's like two main native characters on the show who have very the different views of just everything and I think there's something interesting about their scenes where native people are talking to people about whatever and not necessarily about housing native but sometimes and I think the exciting about getting to to write those
Leslie Jamison on Jenny Offill's Book 'Weather'
"Leslie Jamison is here in the studio. Her most recent book is make it screen and make it burn essays which was reviewed in the book review last fall all but she's here now to talk about another book. She reviewed this week on our cover. Jennie O. Foles Weather Leslie. Thanks for being here. It's so wonderful to be here so you. Let's first talk about Jenny full. Who she is? Pearl Siegel staff critic for the Times. Were a profile of Jennie O.. Full in this this week's issue of the New York Times magazine but give us a sense of who this writer is. When I think about Daniel's work and why it matters and why I think it's really created aided the sense of excitement around so many readers I think part of it you know she writes about motherhood and marriage and things that can get lumped under the general neural umbrella term domesticity but she brings them to life in these incredibly razor-sharp ways and there shouldn't even be a but conjunction to that sentence right like wire wire those states of being not razor-sharp somehow but but sometimes they can get seen as softer sentimental and she brings both very different form and a very different tone to how how she writes about them and how she does justice to their emotional extremity? Now I'm thinking that we have to make a challenge to ourselves not to use the word but for the rest of this partnership. I think there we go that we're are GONNA fail so we'll just we'll we'll put that aside. This book weather is her third novel her. I was last things and then it took her fifteen years to write. Her neck spoke department of speculation which came out in two thousand fourteen and was one of our ten best books of the year. And I feel like that book really brought her to you. A wider attention perhaps not bestseller list attention but it was hugely critically acclaimed and beloved by readers. Let's start talk a little a bit about that book and why it struck such a chord and I think it's no accident when you said it was like fifteen years until the next book which actually sort of part of the plot of Department of speculation too. It's like there's a writer who is taking a long time to put her second novel. Part of I think you know my understanding from interviews. She's done. The story of that book has that it started as a much more conventionally structured novel and it sort of took her a long time to whittle it down to its really searing form which is a very a fragmented form where you feel like you're getting these absolutely essential bursts of exerience. I think her agent described at once as more like an x Ray than a body which I thought was such such an amazing evocation of how it works and so part of why it caught. Hold I think is that it wasn't it wasn't just very smart about feeling and it had this strong long hard and it's about a infidelity and marriage sort of preparing itself but it also it seemed to find a new language for feeling a new structure for feeling the guy I want to go back to that the fragments Manson the structure for people who've not Reggiani Oval. We should say this. Her books are really short. They're really really short but they are packed and yet they don't feel dense and part of that is due to structure and you use the word fragments. People use the word fragments or fragmentary or cones. Let's talk about a house. She structures these books because it is especially when department speculation came out in two thousand fourteen. It felt very different from what was being written and it felt very very different from the way in which a domestic novel was being written. You know it makes me think a little bit about the way that like Virginia Woolf would describe moments of being you know that somehow we have these moments where it feels like something about experience is intensified or crystallized on. I think Jenny has a real knack for like putting her finger on the pulse of those moment. So maybe it's just an ordinary moment like in this latest novel. where she comes home from the her narrator comes home from feeling this intense panic about climate aamot change and her sons playing minecraft noon? SORTA get like putty off of his fingers. Like it's not in a dramatic sense like it's that's not a huge plot point happening in that moment but she manages manages to find these ways that seemingly insignificant moments if you if you describe them so precisely and locate some kind of feeling what's happening in them quivering inside them. She does justice to it and the way that her books are structured. I don't think there are like us in this weather. There are parts. I can't remember if in Department of Speculation Stephen divided into chapters but it's these single paragraphs are a few paragraphs spaced apart on the page. So not not only. Is it a small book but it actually. I mean you could theoretically sit down and read it in a couple of hours I did. You did theory. You could sit down down and read it very quickly and one of the things that I think people then mistakenly assume is that. Oh you know sort of hastily written you get the cents though once you are reading it that not at all does feel something. That is very much labored over almost like poetry in terms of the precision of the ways in which the things that she's putting into those little sections as you pointed out it's often about the contrast in a given moment between something very granular and domestic and personal and then some larger thought. That's going on or something happening in the greater world. Do you think that was what was is so striking about department of speculation. The fact that she was doing not that she was taking something like a domestic novel. That was you know. Just as you said kind of a story of a Brooklyn Glenn Mother and infidelity and work life balance and these things that so many books are about but infusing in it these larger the issues. I think that's a really good point that so often. What makes these like short bursts? CLO- fuel incandescent our field. Charged is is that they're very granular. But they're also holding some kind of emotional intensity and I think when you're writing about something like infidelity where there's both the danger of somehow telling a story that people feel like they've heard before story that feels intrinsically melodramatic. It can really bring out the humanity of the story to pay attention to the granularity of of like a one scene. That's rising to mind from that novel is like the narrator after a conflict with her husband going to stay at a hotel overnight and and like preying on the carpet of the hotel floor. But it's like it's like that hotel carpeting that holds so much feeling rather than just like the larger obstruction of of infidelity per se. Or something and so I think it is that scale shifting that can happen in a space of a paragraph. Can that happen across the course the whole book. That's also really operative in this latest book. where the skills or even bigger because among other things about climate change is like one of the biggest skills yes yes yeah? Let's talk about weather and let's start start with what it's about even though you know as we think people are probably sensing when you talk about Jenny ovals work. It really isn't about plot. Yeah but what is whether yeah so the narrator of weather is a mother who years ago dropped out of a PhD program and it's working as university librarian and she takes a job job working for her former mentor. Who does a podcast about climate change? where she's answering all the letters that are coming in response to this podcast so there are a few different? There's the kind of plot of her I went to the overhauls narrator to answer my letters to this cast. I'm just kidding. I love answering your letters I would be. I thought you were GonNa even save answer my letters I was like I have a few letters. Live right Yeah I mean you know you have this narrators mother you have her as a wife wife you have her as a a worker and maybe a worker who feels a bit lost in the world. There's also for me. One of the most compelling plot lines in the book is about the narrators relationship with her brother. WHO's a recovering addict? He gets married and then has a a baby and her role in his life and her sort of desperate hope that he can put his life together. Other was a really moving strand among strands for me as well presumably. That's very deliberate. Bringing new life into a world that is in crisis crisis and feels like it's ending and I think that's one of the abiding emotional. Tensions in the book is like the the world is always beginning and ending at once. And maybe maybe there's something about that truism that has felt universal through time but it has a particular acuity now or the world is is it's ending he's send away by these factors that are at work but that dynamic of like yes the world is ending but also you wake up in the morning and you're touching base with your brother overtaxed to make sure he and the baby are doing okay that both of those are real on. Both of those are happening. I think we're seeing a wave of climate fiction and it's taking all of these different forms. Probably a most noticeably post apocalyptic and dystopia although there are also books like Richard powerhouses over story sometimes metaphorical Oracle sometimes very reality based feels different. Though I mean how does this differ from other fiction looking at climate and climate. Change for starters. You don't have that kind of like emotional. Buffer of the post apocalyptic landscape that emotional buffer mailing a strange way to describe a postal puck landscape. But it's like if the apocalypse is happening thing in Brooklyn Public School like that's the stage set for the book it feels more disquieting in certain ways because it's closer to home. It's not like Cormac McCarthy novel where a father and Zahn are like traveling the chart landscape like it's more immediate in that way and I think one of the challenges of writing about climate change is how to take this thing that is essentially on a larger scale than our minds can hold and how to make it a narrative we can hold. There's this moment early on in weather where the narrator is thinking about her son allies elementary school and she says the problem with the school is that it's not a bill on a human scale feels too large for these little children who are going into it and I I think in a way that lays out one of the aesthetic challenges the book right. It's like climate. Change isn't quite on a human scale but narrative is on a human scale. So how do you translate. How does she do it? Part of it has to do with what we're talking about a little bit earlier these questions of sort of scale shifting and simultaneity where you had these big questions of like the end of the world coming up either through the letters that are coming into this podcast or you know this narrator is doing what I think. We all do obsessive googling about lots of things where she's sort. I'm trying to see like how hot is it going to be in New York City and you know when her son is sixty years old or something like that and getting so freaked out by these numbers so you sort of have those larger questions that are always coming up against the interpersonal. TRAUMAS the books. So either it's like the obstruction of like how hot is the World GonNA get comes up up against the body of her actual son. She's imagining at age. Sixty or thinking about like the horsemen of the apocalypse. Coming in comes up against you know coming home ends ends giving the dog. His Lover Frog Toy. You know so the becomes on a human scale because we see a particular human with a particular life a particular brother who's giving bringing new life into the world that all of those abstract questions are hitting all of those granular
The weight loss surgery decision
"So take us to the moment that you so you. You had gastric bypass take us to the moment that you decided you needed to get it. Well seven and I was three hundred and twenty five pounds and I you know I had some close friends who like came to Manson's like you really need to you know improve your health somehow and so And Linda October of two thousand eighteen. I got you I had to go in for some blood. Testing like doctor called me a few hours later. Says you got I want you. He's come into the office and you know he had me that. I wasn't diabetic. So that really hit home as to I have to start looking at Ways to improve my health and a lot and I. I've tried losing weight over the years and I've I've lived ten pounds gained gained fifteen lose twenty gate and gain twenty two so my back was kind of against the wall there and I went in foot to a diabetes. Vdi Workshop and when I met the new Dietician Outpatient Dietitian. And then she put me on a program to start losing weight which I lost a couple pounds and then she raised the issue. Have you ever thought about You know gastric bypass and then that kind of got the ball rolling there. So when did you have your surgery. I had a mid July last year in July seventeenth. And how much weight have you lost. So far I've lost one hundred and twenty pounds. How would you say that your life is different? It's now that you're a hundred and twenty pounds lighter. I mean the list goes on and on the improvements. You know I I've been I was taken off my They met foreign the diabetes medication that I was on. I was taken off of that. 'CAUSE You know I you know. My diabetes is in remission at my blood tests. All show that by glucose level is always hovering of the healthy range. You know was hovering over two hundred What I was way overweight? And now it's hovering around seventy nine in the mid seventies I flew to had two two or three very long airplane. Flights and I was able to sit in my seat with an without having to seatbelt. extender you know that. That seems like a small thing to some people like it was like a you know to me. It was like a kid on at Christmas. So it was like the coolest thing. Yeah I'm sleeping better. I was two years ago when I was working. I was notting all the time. I had to stand up to keep myself to stay awake through my to stay. Ah Stay awake while I was working on important tasks and now like I am sleeping very good for different tire. Nice now you know. That's all from my weight loss.
Analyst Brandel Chamblee on all things golf
"All Right Ladies Gentlemen we are joined by a very special guest a friend of ours ars Panama on probably a handful types now. But I think it's been at least a year so he is the lead analyst for Golf Channel One of the best analysts in the game. I got a whole intro. Here wait till you see all this he is a PGA tour winner the Greater Vancouver Open in nineteen ninety eight. He is now defunct finished well about. We're not worried about that. He finished tied for Eighteenth at the nineteen ninety nine masters never made the cut of the PGA Championship. Which I want to ask you about tied for forty fourth at the two thousand and one? US Open tied for sixty second at the open championship in two thousand one. Pretty good stretch author of the anatomy of greatness. Which I've read Mr brand-new shambling? Welcome come to the show my friend. Yeah those last few terms are not defunct. They're still they're still they're still up and running And it's always a pleasure to join you guys Who's there in the studio? We've got myself guys. Would you like to introduce yourself Frankie here brandon. Trent also got lurch. That could to meet you four to it so you tell us a little bit pre show that you just came from a little shoot with rory. I wanted to address royal because I was just reading this article earlier. This week. That came out independent. Paul kimmage was going on with Rory. You know nothing's off limits a an amazing acing insightful interview and he mentioned you rory in this interview and there are some negative words that you have received leave before some positive words but I thought we would start with some very positive words from rory and what happened was I played a little clip from year guys discussion on live from from or golf central or whatever it was right after the Patrick read winning the masters a few years ago and the clip. You essentially Go through how this has to be the most disappointed. The point that rory's Ben since leaving Augusta in two thousand eleven you talk about Amnesia from his first tee shot that day which if anybody remembers he hits it a million yards right off the first tee and you talk about that had to creep into the rest of his game and rory goes on to say it hurts when you're on the receiving end and sometimes I think And sometimes all that stuff hurts but I think brandon was one of the smartest guys in Gulf. He's brilliant I like him. He's giving me a book on. Bobby Locke I have it here. So so what are your thoughts and hearing those kinds of comments from Roy a that that type of stuff you know it hurts to hear but also be that he says you're the smartest guys in the game. Yeah you know when you said that in a chair where somebody asked every two minutes. What do you think Why did he do that what you know? What reasons did he? You know made him win. Why did he lose those kinds of things? I mean you have to very often say critical things if people you really like and admire and sometimes you have very complimentary things about people that you don't particularly care for it's just the nature of the job and you know and also the nature of Of all of us that I could wax on for an hour about all the great attributes and the one thing everybody will remember just one critical comment Has All the time I'll do interviews with people and go on and on and on about a particular player for I don't know Ten minutes and then I might say one critical thing and then that'll be the headline and in the story or the podcast or whatever I get totally understand it But it's just hard of the. It's a part of the job I have it. So it's the nature of the job. I have in the analysis business. And you know if you say everything's great and when something comes along. That really is great. While you've desens- Does the whole world and they're not going to believe you so you know he set up there. At least I do I sit there and I just try to as best I can but shots in historical context and when they're great you know without being hyperbolic great when there are awful without being pollick awful so he goes on to sort of talk about how the Rangers that day. He had a left mess. Then he comes out to the first day and he hits it miles right right and your analysis was obviously that though that that shot is clearly. He's going to remember that throughout the entire day at affected the rest of his round. Like how could you tell that. Anita from that. Shot from whatever's going on with the swing was affecting the rest of his entire route. I it's informed by I years and years and years and years of struggling with those issues myself and You know I mean we all have those issues. You had a horrible horrible shot off the first tee or somewhere around the rest of the round in particular when you get to a place where that miss is now Even more vulnerable people because of a penalty. Then they're gonNA favor it and predictably miss it the opposite direction are they gonNA make nuanced changes to their offspring. So I've I've spent the last twenty years of my life watching golf. The way radiologists looks at X.. Rays you know I. I'm I'm all in I'm all allies and I am I research every detail of it and you know it's it's a it's an educated. Guess I guess if you want to call it what it really was but Roy May differ with me later on in that interview. He said he forgot about. It doesn't think about it and and and again I say you know. There is a crucial crucial role of Amnesia. The maintenance power of every athlete you have to be able to forget the inability to forget is infinitely more more devastating than an inability to remember for an athlete. You've got to be able to forget the bad stuff Years ago there was a people talk about about this interview that Jack Nicklaus gave or this speech rather than dynamics gave where he said he'd never missed a pot on the last hole that he needed to make and a man held his arm Arma said. Excuse me Mr Nicholas just last week I was watching you and a PGA tour champions event you had a four hundred or on the last. Oh you missed it and maybe you just kind how to forget that one. and Mr Jackson let me repeat at Never Mr Putt on the last hole of the tournament that I needed to make and the man in the crabbers incredulous and later on he went up and talked to Bob. Tell this man sin. Why wouldn't Jag just admit it? And and Bob said well hold on a second. That's how you think right and Manson absolutely got admit go so you're telling the greatest athlete of all time that he should think how you think you're far often the greatest athlete of all time or maybe. We should just all jacking and again. That's and Mesia. You need to have it. You need to extract. All of the good there is is to get out of every situation and then forget all the bad and then and then move on. I remember one time. One thing you told me was that you know in order to really get to that level level where you're a we're obviously talking about some of the best players of all time and Roy who's going to be the number one ranked player in the world again here very soon but like to get to that top level you you basis Jason like at some level you have to just beat almost delusional. I mean you have to have almost a blind ridiculous illogical belief in yourself at the Times that like your perfect and even better than you actually think you are and if you don't you just can't make yeah. I mean the game of golf for sport in general and he'd you're constantly attacked by not only the people that you're competing against but by the media and fans listen and then you have your own sort of Uninvited guests in your head. You know this little demons pop up and and you you have to lay waste all of those as best you can and you can do it through sort of you know arrogance you can do it to sort of self delusion but I mean it's rare that the the athletes can get to that place where they need to get through sort of rational balanced Thought and I think that's one of the things that makes rory such an appealing superstar. Superstar is that he's a lot closer to federal Along the lines to be approachable humble symbol And yet the right level of arrogance me word has a negative connotation to but I think it's important to have the right level of arrogance as an athlete but it's so often accompanied by the less poudel aspects of that word. The right level level of it is Well it's it's very present in Roy. So let's fast forward a couple years for his game now he's Mid's mm it's kind of insane has been since two thousand fourteen that he's won a major championship of course had really good years along the way really good finishes very consistent Golf. Where do you see his game? Now a specially as putting I mean I know you've you've done a ton of research on on putting feel versus technical and all that rory's biggest struggle has been the putting were you general thoughts on Roy's game going this year especially as putting. Yeah well I think you made changes in the way. He prepares works out and that has allowed his body to move better so he's less inclined to get injured. Still got this. You know. Full reg motion and lots of speed I think had to go there with the working out with rory I like it. Yeah but I mean He. I as I've when I criticize if you want to use that word his workout routine. I was watching him getting injured. Nagging injuries popping up. I was watching his Co.. PEDS BE DECLINE AT AGE win. It should have been maintaining or even going up and you know I mean he I I said what I said. I couldn't have it with anymore. Caveats and the next day he posted a video game. Self working out I think I've told you this before about a month later I was on a set of live from said that the match-play WDC AC match-play Roy. One in fulfilling an obligation on the set nice come up but I was busy. I was working. I didn't look his direction at intern around when he was walking off no effort to connect with him and I felt a tap on my back and turn around and goes you know I was just fm with you you know. That's that's what we do. I was just having fun because I didn't mean any armide and I was like I get no problem. I didn't take offence to it at all but but I think in the long run. I do believe that rory changed as the way he fares works out so his body moving better less inclined to get injured And then with the short game you know I think he made a good move going to work with the Brad Faxon I say work with. It's really just having conversations with then and Brad is given him permission if you will to be less careful on the grains to be more clinic more reactionary which is crazy because because you know the game of golf right now is just inundated with pseudo-scientists pat sells off as a pseudo scientists and then and then they have cluttered up the game with very complicated esoteric thoughts that are not doing their students any favors whatsoever and I think Roy did a good the job of divorce in himself from those thoughts those ideas and those teachers and he's on the right path and then I think mentally were whatever place he needed to find find he got there towards the end of last year to sort of play his best gall I think. You know the rivalry. They may not call it a rivalry but it certainly feels like looks like rivalry between Brooks So I think that's that's fine tuned. Whatever it was it was missing trump his game into To a great spot so it sets up I think beautifully for Roy going into twenty twenty. What's your relationship like with Brooks Kepco? He kind of tweeted. I love what may or may not have been a clown picture with your face on it. Yeah I don't have a relationship with Brooks I yeah. I don't have a relationship with mini tour players of said forever that my job is sort of incompatible with having relationships toward players to speak about I think Brooks's a heck of talent Allen but I I think Brooks comes to this game sort of a A team sport combative Sports Sports Mentality. I think that's the sort sort of sensibility that he brings to go off. It's not really consistent with the traditions of the game. And it's a gentleman sport I think his comments mints about there'd be no rivalry between him and rory and saying that Roy hadn't won a major championship since he was Plan the PGA tour. which which by the way is ludicrous because it was a professional Golfer and twenty twelve? He just wasn't good enough to play on the stage. That Roy was on. I do believe Roy's won three major championships. Pittsburgh successional dolphins so it was Just disrespectful Not only the traditions of the game. It was disrespectful to rory And I wouldn't be surprised if you know and and sort of a roundabout way Work to motivate rory. Don't know that I'm just guessing but but who wouldn't use that to To motivate them so. I don't think like that face picture. Brandel I don't think you like Brooks did that to you. I think he's had that comment that he wasn't good enough for a long time. He's back I don. I saw it. I thought it was funny. I actually posted a picture of myself with a clown shortly shortly after that in response to his clowns because I it doesn't bother me. I mean it's again it comes with the territory of what I do for a living did that. There's GonNa be some retribution or or Kickback from some of the things. I've said you know I I I said before I mean I'm kind of half joking but I have left a few shows before and thought. Wow I don't really agree with what I said You know sometimes it just comes out wrong. Aw Show true boy. Have I been there gene. How do I get there now? He's talking about that happened. That's breaking segment right there. I mean we. It's it's incredibly feature that sometimes you just start you come from a good place with it. You know you have the information and then by the time it all comes out. You're like what the fuck did I say seriously. Yeah I don't would agree with what I just said. It happens from time. TV or radio or PODCASTS. It's a little golf. I mean just get it wrong. Ties make mistakes as a book. You know You try not to try to learn from us. Try to be accurate you know. That's the goal is to be accurate. Fair it doesn't always work out that way.
"manson" Discussed on Killer Knowledge
"Or you don't and you better hope you know it because one player will be eliminated at the end of this round. Let's keep playing here. We go with around two as we learned earlier Manson educated himself while in prison besides Qatar and scientology he also took classes that taught Dale. Carnegie's Book How to win friends and influence people. Well that book is retrospectively ably credited with transforming Manson from an awkward and uninfluential person to the charismatic cult leader. He would become the second round dives into Manson's teachings and manipulations leading up to him becoming a murderer mastermind. Let's start with question number. Eleven and which nineteen sixty eight Beatles. Album did Charles Manson convinced his followers contained a prophecy for the end of the world. A Abbey road be the white album. See Magical mystery tour Vanessa. Sta Bi the white album the Beatles which is also called the white album is the correct. Answer the album which sold over three million copies in its first week in the. US was a huge success and is the band's most certified album in history a Manson believed it contained hidden lyrics. It's about a revolution and used it to preach about an impending race war. Okay Vanessa getting on the board and round two now with seven points. Greg has three now. One song from the white album was more influential and Manson delusions than any other. I see some head. Nodding looks like we're GonNa have a a tight race on this one question number. Twelve what Beatles Song did Manson use to describe his imagined impending racial conflict. I am the Walrus. Be Yellow submarine. See Helter skelter. Greg see helter skelter. That is very correct and well performed as well. That song title was. Also the name of Vincent Instant Bugliosi's famous book about the crimes and trial of the words. Helter skelter would later be found written in blood on the refrigerator At these Sharon tate murder scene with that answer Greg. You got a point in round two. So you're up to four points to Vanessa. Seven again killer. Question is out. There were three one question could be right back in a very tight race now while Manson mastered the way of speaking to his family that kept them believing his outlook on on the world for question number thirteen. What psychotropic drug did he also give his followers to manipulate them and persuade them of his vision? A LSD be heroin. See Ecstasy Greg a LSD LSD. Is the right answer. That brings Greg to five points to Vanessa's seven points. Manson's vision took a tragic tragic turn on the night of August. Eighth Nineteen Sixty nine on the family had killed before especially in hopes to start the race war. Manson had talked so much about but it was the murders on Cielo drive in Los Angeles that captured national attention. Since one of the victims was actress. Sharon tate wife life of director Roman Polanski that night Manson sent four of his followers to the House to kill everyone there for question number fourteen. What family member reportedly said? I'm the devil. I'm here to do the devil's business before they began killing healing people a Susan. Atkins be Tex Watson C.. Linda Sabin Greg a Susan Atkins that is incorrect. Oh my goodness ludicrous. chickened out Tex Watson when NASA is correct thinking I was thinking woman interesting. I was just thinking about this a little like you thought it might have been shows you you you know where my mind goes characters right all these names you knew it was Tex Watson yes it's now eight to five and remember we still have the killer question. Pop Up worth three points and one player will be eliminated at the end of the round. Now as the Manson family left the crime scene after the murders Susan as an Atkins wrote a message on the front door question number fifteen. What word did she write a pig? Be Eh di Sea Devil Greg. A pig that is correct atkins wrote the word pig using Sharon. Tate's blood on front door. Yeah it's probably one of the most talked about details surrounding the murders and the word is connected to another song from the Beatles. White album called hauled piggies which was an anti establishment anthem. Now that brings the score. Eight to six in favour of Vanessa. Hope here that that sound means it is time for the killer question. Remember killer question is not multiple choice. You either know the answer or you don't and the questions were three points in this case Greg you would take the lead Vanessa. You could really start to put it away so buzzing if you know the answer question question number sixteen the killer question. One of the Manson families victims at Tate's home was the heiress to which famous coffee the company Vanessa Folder Twenty five year old Abigail folder was one of the five victims. Yes she was at the House with her boyfriend who was friends with Tate's husband Roman Polanski.
Quentin Tarantino Discusses 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood'
"Popcorn where we talk about the movies and one of my favorite movies of this year this decade of forever called once upon a time in Hollywood directed by this guy. Quentin Tarantino thank. You very much really appreciate the decade Monica. Give that to to to a nine to a movie that falls on the nine. No but you have to do. Usually you're supposed to years go by but this movie speaks to people like me I I according to get the jokes jokes. They'll get a two when they see it. But it's a pleasure to have you here. It's good to geek out a little bit about about this movie. Which is now the BLU ray now? Yeah ended up coming out no extending the cat. It's still cut but we have about twenty minutes of extra stuff off talk about this. You know everybody has it on their best list and it's nominated for every single. Does that matter to you anymore. It's fun it's it's Nice. It's really wonderful to like actually do movie and then kind of be in that like winners circle of we were talking about just before the show started between between like the seven or eight movies people are talking about and to be invited to the different parties. And No. That's actually really fun. Like I've been there where I thought I had one of the best movies. And it's not in that roundup so it's actually nice to be in the mound up. I want to know what was the genesis of this one. What was the first thing? Not because he sat down and started to write it. When was this in your head? Well this was kind of a long process similar to other inglorious bastards where I kind of I had the idea as opposed to okay. I'm going to sit down and bang out this script. That wasn't really kind of the case. Here this was more kind of an exploratory kind of thing so there was a couple of years. I'm just kind of figuring out who the characters were and I wasn't in any hurry to sit down and write a movie script even like my very first couple years of writing on it. I wrote it as a novel or at least a couple of chapters as a novel in exploratory way. Then he even wrote that like the The Al Pacino seen in Musso and frank's that has one act play at one point and that because I was planning on doing it as a player even planning on doing. I didn't know how I was going to do it. But it was more an exploratory Tori writing exercise but the the initial I Guess Genesis of the whole thing was It was a while ago I was making a movie and I was dealing with a an older action. He kind of Guy Actor and I'm doing the film And then he comes to me and he goes you know Quinton I have a stunt double and he's been my stunt double for about nine years now now I haven't I'm a bust your balls about it because there's not really anything for them to do but there is a gag coming up on Thursday. He could do that so if if you wouldn't mind. Maybe we could be a nice thing to throw him something and he could come on Thursday and do that thing and that would be good good for me. and He's good you'll like like yeah. Sure no worries so Thursday rolls around and he shows up and he does a great job with this stunt nowhere but anyway the dais going on and part of the thing about about about their relationship is like you can tell it's been going on for nine years. You could tell that there was a time that this guy was the perfect double double for the actor perfect. You could've shot close ups with the stunt guy and they would have passed. This time was not that that child kind of grown in different directions. And and you could tell this was like maybe the last or second the last thing that they'd be doing together and I kind of glance over and I see the two of them sitting in a director's chairs on the set talking. They're smoking cigarettes and just shooting the breeze and and naturally since one guy is the stunt guy the other guy there actually both dressed an identical costumes. which is that's the relationship they do and like the stunt guy has got his hair done in a cockamamie way that resembles the actor? And they're both wearing the same costume and they're smoking cigarettes and watching them talk. And I'm I'm seeing the whole nine years of their relationship and I know that this is the tail end of it and I'm watching them talk and I'm like wow. These guys have been buddies for a long time and they've been working buddies and it's an interesting friendship because yes I'm sure it's a friendship but one is working for the others. There's a subservient this implied. And all that but you know an actor does a lot of movies all right on this movie. He knows the director and he's friends and this other movie he knows an an actor took and their friends. But there's a lot of what we know anybody until he gets to know them but the stunt guy he does know. And that's his little buddy on the set that they can talk and bs with each other. So I'm sitting there watching this relationship as you just kind of talk to each other sitting there director's chairs dressed identically to each other and I thought wow that's an interesting relationship if ever. I do a movie about movies about the making of entertainment. That could be an interesting way in the relationship. Issue between an actor and a stuntman is and it was thank you. I have to show this clip now because it goes right to what you were saying. Let's just look. Did you. Just come prepared for that. Yeah and you were going to go with the clip is Kurt Russell. Let's run that clip. Let's see nothing is asking you to help me. Yeah man the answer is no the the answer is no not not no excuse. And this ain't and in Guadeloupe picture and I can't afford to hire a bunch of guys that smoke cigarettes and sit around talking to each other all day on the chance that I might use them. I got a four man team here. Rick I need more the net I got to get it approved and you know I gotTa look after my. Hey you're doing were better match me. I'd say okay. You got the. But that's not the case in note he he. He's a great match. You could do anything you want him to drop off a building. A lot of on fire with flanking Lincoln right get creative whatever you want. He's happy for the opportunity. I don't dig him and I don't think the by he brings. Oddly enough it's actually funny. Just even me telling that little story and watching that scene that actually ended up being very removing actually watching like rick fighting for his guys. I really do anything. You could beat them up but it's not a do raise is your anymore guy's GonNa get hired. He's got he's got he's got to talk the talk. He's got to convince the stunk after the do it does for him. Now we're in that world of Sharon Tate and the Manson's no. Was that always what you wanted to have. As part of this around with this well there was always part part of it because I like the idea for a couple of reasons one. I like the idea of exploring the character of Sharon Tate. Who through through the sensationalism of the circumstances and the sensationalism of history has almost been reduced to a an extra in her own story Lori to some degree? And of course I wanted to deal with Charles Manson and the family. Because I'm kind of dealing with Hollywood mythology at that that time Los Angeles County mythology and they are part of that fabric. You almost can't deal with that That city without thinking about them and also in in dealing with the the ups and the downs of Holly of that Hippie Hollywood they were part of that fabric but one of the things. I'm really proud about about the movie. And part of it is just Margot's enchanting performance that she gives is if I'm dealing with an audience that's eight hundred people in the theater for the most part those eight hundred people before the movie started when they thought Sharon tate they just. I thought about her murder. They thought about her as a murder victim. And I think the perception of Sharon has changed since this movie has played out during the year. Now people think about her as more than just a murder victim they think about her as a person they think they contemplate the life that she lived. She is a A character she's a person she's more than a murder statistics. She seems to be living her own life while the other characters are part of the story. Yeah no well that that was actually kind of that was that was that was done purposely because part of the thing is you. I mean the whole movie. I spent all this time figuring out who the characters were and Dan. At some point I had to. I actually asked myself the question. I was like okay. Okay now. I'm ready to do it. I have my milieu. I know I know the environment and I know the characters. What story do I want to tell me? Quinton Lily ask myself the question. What story do you WanNa tell and oh I thought to myself well you know I had a story in mind? You could imagine like Elmore Leonardy Kinda store. The even Clinton and Ricky feel like Leonard type type of characters. But then I thought about. I don't know I don't think I really WanNa tell a movie story or have a movie. The plot I actually think I just wanted to do a day in the life or a few days in the life of these characters and I actually think the characters are strong enough to hold it and I actually think the milieu that I'm creating being in the in the town itself is enough to hold it so in that regards. I didn't WANNA come up with necessarily plot for Sharon. I just wanted the to have us watch her live her life. She runs errands she drives around. She talks to a couple of her friends. She gets a book she goes to see the movie and and to me it was an aspect of just watching her just live her life. undramatically is kind of what was robbed from her. And that's what we could
"manson" Discussed on Dateline NBC
"Charlie manson had come to los angeles with the plan to be bigger than the beaten by the summer of sixty nine. He knew that wasn't going to happen and that's when manson told his followers they had doing night something he called helter helter skelter an imminent world destroying race war which he named for reasons only he knew after a song on the beatles white album. They're gonna go on the desert. Stay there for one hundred fifty years while the black man takes over but then they're going to need him later and and that's when he's gonna come out as the master race and be the leader of everyone sounds ridiculous of course it is ridiculous but combination <music> of drugs being isolated. He had them all convinced that this was rail. He was serious about this. Yeah he believed member.
"manson" Discussed on Movin 92.5
"Manson man upside hire a couple times couple guy didn't seem you ride gonna i'm tired of me watching safe showed up bureau don't know you beautiful fantasy manson komo komo we movin ninety two point five.
"manson" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"Quote apparently i guess from the trial um um the directive from charles manson and if you don't know this i guess we should go and say charles manson um even though later on other people said the tex watson was more acting on his own and misunderstood manson's directive bud charles manson ordered these killings um which will get into but he ah told watson supposedly totally destroy everyone and that house is gruesome as you can sowa in addition to the to the mutilation of the bodies um and mike post mortem stab wounds there was uh stuff written on the walls in their blood like pig and uh while think pig was young renamo wall at this one right on the front door which is a uh obviously was a a reference to cops at the time right and they wrote it and share in tate's blood right so pig is on the door and blood um the the the perpetrators cowed away the bansa family getaway they made it back to i think this the spawned ranchers his one of the places they were staying so then two nights later manson orders the family to go do it again he's he actually said that they duct according to texan in the rest of them he actually said that they did they done it wrong they had created panic and fear in these people and they need to do it right this time but to go go out and butcher another family took him to a house and it was a house next door to this house that the man's family used to party yet um it was a a friend of one of manson's of record producer friends and next door was just this normal unassuming come couple who had from what i understand no interaction with the manses at any point in time um the it was the couple named a leno in rosemary labianca and they were just about his middle class upper middleclass america establishment is you can get yet he was uh actually lived less than two miles from this house was.
"manson" Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio
"Right well i don't want to take my time go into work yeah and there's a bit of cadence poetry of course to with at least in terms of the language and now despite all the claims of god hooded divine nature charles manson is dead it's strange that the three of us of not explored this topic four earlier we noted that our mission for the series was going to be to determine what if any conspiracy theories surrounding the manson family manse it's background the murders in his later time prison were true and as as we've realised diving into this extremely disturbing rabbit whole this is more than one episode in fact we have to dedicate an entire episode apart too solely to the conspiracy theories surrounding the life of charles manson so it is here that we must pause for a moment but although we are you know him and we know that it can feel kind of strange for us to say here is the background years part one of an episode well we will return with part two of the episode and in the meantime we don't wanna leave you in the darko we'd like to invite you to check out some further reading yes one thing we urge you to check out until we meet again is a book called a member of the family written by diane lake endeavour a herman it is the story of charles manson of the the life inside his colt and the darkness that ended the '60s in its written by a person diane lake who was a part of the family someone who had inside experience of what it was like to be manipulated by charles manson and how the techniques that we've been discussing that he was using what it felt like to be under the spell of some of that stuff and it gets a lot into the lost the lost girl mentality that we were speaking about knowle a lot of that feeling of not having a family but.
"manson" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson
"Thanks for listening to you, master number that You must remember. This is written edited And narrates had by Corinne among were that's me Special thanks to our special guests. Noises Chu-lan played Richard Nixon and Nathan out concluded has run as Charles Manson. would also like to thank all of the other guests who contributed to this series. Romberg Berkman who played remnant planned ski Noah Siegen who played Dennis Wilson. Sam's Zimmerman who played Bobby Bustle lay T S Fall, who played Kenneth anger and Lynn ski who played Mel N For more information about this episode and other episodes. Please go to our website, You must remember this podcast dot com and follow us on Twitter @ remember this pod. You can rate and review the show on I tunes and subscribe to it there, or in the pod catcher of choice. And please spread the word about the show, especially over the next few weeks. We're going to be on hiatus until September while we work on planning, researching and beginning to write a full new season of episodes. Join us in September won't you can. Uh, this is via. Yeah. This is the. May be. Oh. The. Oh. No.
"manson" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson
"Incident. But after the third trial, She was found guilty and again convicted of life in prison. Dennis Wilson drowned in 1983 Clem Grogan was paroled in 1985 that same year on an assignment firm Rolling Stone. John Waters was asked to interview Manson. But if everyone associated with the Manson murders, waters was most interested in Leslie Van Houten who was no longer under Charlie's control And now had to live with the crimes that she had committed as a brainwashed acid at Old nineteen year old. We'll see, renowned. No, we seem the one who could have somehow ended up making movies reverse instead of running with a killer doom Bucky crowd. She was pretty out of her mind. Rebellious fashioned daring a good haircut, a taste for LSD just like the girls in my movies. Instead of being a good soldier for Charlie and participating in the murders of Lino in Rosemary lobby hunker, which certainly believe that the right thing to do at the time. I wish he'd been with us in Baltimore on location for Pink Flamingo th the day, divine aid dog shit for real, our own cultural Tate-LaBianca. Maybe she would have been joy, DHS cinematic anti-social, Lee movie anarchy just as much as a misguided race were entitled helter-skelter and designed by a criminal megalomaniac who believe the Beatles were speaking directly to him. If Leslie had met me instead of Charlie, could you have gone to the Cannes film festival instead of the California Institute for women waters wet too, Leslie, who didn't want to be interviewed because she wasn't interested in notoriety for her crimes. But she was willing to let John Waters Get to know her. So began a friendship conducted over the course of thirty years through letters and prison visits, which led to waters advocating for less laced Perol in his book role models. I know the law Bianca kids don't have a mother around anymore because of my friend, Leslie, no matter how patient lessee her supporters are. We know this terrible fact will never change. But when if ever mother have been enough punishment, waters notes that Leslie has now served more time than any Nazi war criminal who was not execute Ed. Terry Melchor died of cancer in two thousand four Susan Atkins died of cancer in jail. In two thousand eight squeaky fromm was released on parole in two thousand nine in the present day, Bobby Beausoleil is up for parole this year. Leslie Van who'd in was denied parole for the 20th time in 2013 She's next eligible in two thousand eighteen as is packed Krenwinkel Charles Manson is still making headlines, although usually not for his fervent environmental activism for which he still has followers doing his bidding. More often than not, he makes headlines for things like his recent engagement to a 27-year-old woman called star, who according to an upcoming book proclaiming Manson's innocence wants to Mary Manson so that she can gain control of his corpse and make money taking it on tour. Ooh. Manson will next be eligible for parole in twenty twenty seven at which point he would be 92. It will be amazing if he lives that long. Given that so many who have crossed his path from Sharon Tate to Susan Atkins Dennis Wilson to Dennis Hopper have not been so lucky. Some people argue that Charles Manson, who is the son of a petty criminal and who never had a conventional family life and who spent most of his pre capital f family life incarcerated. Never had a chance. But then, what about Charles Manson junior The first son sired by Charles Manson with his first wife Rosalie in the mid 1950s Charles Manson junior attempted to disassociate himself from his father's legacy, changing his name to J white but he couldn't escape the knowledge that half of his DNA came from a man who later became. America's agreed upon symbol of evil for the second half of the 20th century. In 1993 Jay white stopped his car off of interstate seventy in Colorado near the border, shared with Kansas and shot himself in the head. Charles Manson's Hollywood is a story in which a lotta people died because one of the millions of people who went west looking for fame didn't get it. And then he did get famous and people continued to die. Thanks
"manson" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson
"It. On Monday March 26th 1971 Charles Manson, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkle add Leslie Van Houten were all sentenced to death. Tex Watson's trial would begin an August, and he too would be sentenced to death. Although all of these sentences were commuted to life in prison in nineteen 72 when California abolished the death penalty. Clem Grogan was convicted of the murder of shortage Shea. But the judge in that case decided that clam was too stupid to know what he was doing and sentenced him to life in prison. The world of the celebrities who had drifted into and out of Manson's orbit over the previous months and years kept on spinning around the time of Charlie's conviction. Dennis Hopper, finally finished the last movie, and when it screened at the Venice Film Festival that fall, it One The. The award it would ever win by the end of that year, the Beach Boys would release a comeback album called surf's up. Also in 1971 Candice Bergen would have one of her best roles in carnal knowledge directed by Mike Nichols. Jack Nicholson would be nominated for an Oscar for five easy pieces and lose panic in needle Park a film based on the first produce screenplay by Joan Deddy n would help make Alba Chino a star. Kenneth anger would be friend Led Zeppelin. Jimmy page with the two of them bonding over their shared interest in Alistair Crowly Doris Day would establish an animal welfare organisation and sing the song that made her famous sentimental journey on a hit TV special produced by her son. Terry Melchor. Who at the same time was producing the album bird maniacs by the ban the birds. And in the opinion of the burden. Hundreds was ruining it by laying on too many are Kestrel strings in June of 1971 Jim Morrison would die in Paris. And also in 1971 Rolling Stone published a lengthy interview with John Lennon in which the former Beatle answered once and for all the question, What did you think of Charles Manson? Frontal not want to throw it when it happened. I just think a lot of the things he says, a a true that sees a child of the state's made by us. Round The He took their children in when nobody else what you did, the causes each trapped while he's balmy is like any other beetle kind of fan who reads mysticism it. I mean, we used to have a left foot in this. The other end in a light-hearted way. The P some intellectual would readers some symbolic 'Youth generation. What's it? But we also took seriously some possible the role in a. I don't know what's helter-skelter got to do with knife in so many. You know what I don't even I'd never listen to the words prompted, Let's go, which is a so a noisy signal behind
"manson" Discussed on You Must Remember Manson
"Less. Cedi Katie and less otherwise known as Susan Pat and Leslie never got a chance to testify in their own defence at their trial. Their defense team didn't want them to because they knew that even when they did speak English, They were still speaking a language that most people didn't understand. Susan, Leslie and Pat one around their Council and demanded that the judge let them testify. The plan was that they were going to take responsibility for the murders in order to absolve. Charlie, the judge decided that the girls could speak If you remove the jury from the room, The girls then refused to speak. But Charlie took the opportunity to make a statement. He started from the beginning, talked about his childhood, You're to school, so never good up to read or write to good. So I stayed in jail. I have stayed stupid. The family He sod was his attempt to make something from nothing uniting and thus giving purpose in life to outcasts. People that you did not want people that were alongside the road that their parents kicked out. In a vague way in the course of damning the court as a surrogate for the establishment, Charlie admitted his own guilt when he said Those working at clean look my house. So the Nixon should have been doing, should have been on the side of the road picking up his children, but he wasn't. He was in the White House in the mopped war. I know this, The in your hearts in your own Seoul's you are as much responsible for the Vietnam War is I am for killing these people. But he also declared that he had never killed anyone nor did he order any went to be killed deflecting responsibility onto the Manson girls. These children were finding themselves what they did If they did whatever they did is up to them. They will have to explain that to you. What about your children? You say they're just a few. There are many, many more coming in the same direction. The run in the streets and they're coming right at you. as he walked out of the courtroom Manson past Leslie, Pat and Susan and said triumphantly You don't have to justify now
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"Off. He didn't have to be a delusional Hollywood star like hopper to see something of yourself and Manson and his family. John Waters later, the director of Pink Flamingo 's Hairspray crybaby and the sadly underrated terrorists and Hollywood satire. Cecil B demented drove across the country in 1974 the premiere of his second feature, multiple maniacs in which divine and his crew take credit for murdering, Sharon Tate. The day after the movie premiere water started sitting in on the Manson trial, he wrote about this in his book. Grohl models published in two thousand ten are became obsessed by the Schirn tweet murder from the day I read about from on the front page of the New York Times and mountain sixty nine as our work behind the counter of the problems. Tone bookshop later when the cops finally caught the hippie killers And I actually saw their photos. Arrest weirdo Entat murder scream the New York Daily News headline. I almost went into cardiac arrests God. The Manson family looked just like my friends at the time. The Manson family members were the hippies. All our parents were scared return into if we didn't stop taking drugs. My friends went to riots every weekend in different cities in the '60s to get a late or get high Just like kids went to raves decades later. But God, This was a cultural war and not a real one. And the survivors of this time now realize we were in a play revolution no matter what Wase ballot. But them. Anson family yachting's here was the real thing punk a decade too early. Dare I say it. Yes, But filthiest people alive. I needed to know more. How had these kids from background so similar to mine committed in real life, the awful crimes against peace in law that we were acting out for comedy in our films in 1971 after the main Manson trial was complete waters, attended a hearing for some second-tiered Manson family members who had been arrested for robbery. What about fifteen of the Manson family were brought him to court handcuffing chain to Governor women on one side and mental me over many with their heads shaved. The atmosphere was electric with twisted evil beauty. Not having seen one another and about a year. The cultist started chanting jerkily gesturing and speaking to one another and a nonsensical language that only the family could understand. Sexy, scary Breen. And dangerous, this gang of hippie lunatics gave new meaning to for lead to ground door group Madness, insanity that lasts as long as the same people are together and United. It was an amazing thing to see him purse heavily influenced an actually jealous of their notoriety. I went back to Baltimore, may Pink Flamingo sports. I wrote directed and dedicated to the Manson girls Fadi Katie and less.
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"Did he in wasn't the only person who is today a bold faced name who was milling about during the trial major stars a year after the release of Easy Rider, Dennis Hopper, and Jack Nicholson frequently sat in the courtroom with Nicholson later taking notes on the proceedings. Apparently thinking he Beuys the notes as the basis of a screen play. When Manson realized Dennis Hopper was in the building, he asked his lawyers, if they could schedule a one on one visit between himself and the actor director. Hopper had been close to J C bring. So he was wary. But he went to see Manson anyway. Passing through the Pasol of X marked Manson girls camped out outside the jail where Manson was being held. Hopper presumed Manson knew about abandoned because of Easy Rider, But in fact, Manson told hopper that he'd been a fan of his and seeing him in the 1962 TV show. The defenders in which hopper played a guy who killed his father in defence of his mother. Hopper asked Manson about the ex carved into his forehead and into the four heads of the girls and asked him what it was. Four, Don't you read the newspapers move Manson responded. All more followers cut themselves. Look this soon. The black revolution Colmes We'll know which ones are ma. Hopper spent two hours with Manson, and while no film came directly out of the meeting, It seems to have left a mark on hopper, who was at the time recently divorced from Hollywood royalty, Brooke Hayward and nearing the peak of his drug addiction and egomania hopper had ridden in the success of Easy Rider into a deal to make the last movie. An unconventionally self reflexive portrait of the making of a doomed film in Peru by mid nineteen seventy hopper taken the footage for the last movie Back to his newly acquired compound in New Mexico where he'd spend the next year editing. This process was captured in the American Dreamer, a film by Lawrence Schiller and El am Kit Carson, which is variously described as a brutally candid documentary entered entirely staged meta portrait of hopper as a compulsive performer who has constantly distracted away from the creative work and nitty-gritty business of filmmaking by his all. Consuming narcissistic obsession with sex. American Dreamer shows hopper hidden behind a massive Manson esque hair living a kind of Manson light lifestyle Hesoun out in the middle of nowhere with plenty of guns, drugs and lots of random young women who were there only to serve him sexually sure. But also literally serve him. One of the girls who describes herself as a recent college graduate works for hopper as a cook, And when she gets pissed off and storms off at one point, one of the directors from behind the camera asks hopper. How many cooks of you had here? And the men all laugh. This is how hopper in American Dreamer describes his interaction with Charles Manson? He said that like, you know, he was a big star in like his whole life. That he had been They're acting out a movie within note. There hadn't been any movie. Can. To say is that he was acting that whole thing out? You know that he has to just asked himself right into the same situation of punishment. You know where we go from there in a male. These dudes to worry brought here the truth due to the rule. Did he blames them? Society? He says, if I do something, then like you find a garden variety to find your if I if I am, you know. If I am your problem, if I'm your garbage, you made me your garbage. I think if you're going to get involved in evolution them you. Uh, you know, which is like, really gets to be very tricky because you have to do an awful lot of thinking, which I really don't have time to do. But if you're going to get involved in evolution, I would think there are times when you'd have to take some off.
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"Weeks. While she was on the stand, Linda wore a dress that had been bought for her by the writer Joan did in who Kosabe Ian said under oath was writing a book about her. That didn't quite turn out to be the case. But did Ian did write about Kosabe E N and the title SA to her collection. The White album during the summer of nineteen seventy did Ian Spence many Knights visiting Linda in jail where she was being held in protective custody in advance of her scheduled testimony dates. Did and found the visits the prison to be completely unsettling. Of these evenings, I remember mainly my dread at entering the prison at leaving for even an hour, the infinite possibilities. I suddenly perceived in the summer Twilight. I remember driving down town on the Hollywood freeway with Gary Fleischmann's Cadillac convertible with the top down. I remember watching a rapid graze on the grass by the gate as Gary Fleischmann signed the prison register. Each of the half dozen doors that locked behind us as we entered civil brand was a little death, and I would emerge after the interview like percebt Fanie from the underworld. Euphoric elated. Once home, I would have two drinks and make myself a hamburger in eat it ravenous sleigh The White album is the jetty NSA that begins with a famous aphorism. We tell ourselves stories in order to live in writing about her connection to Linda Kosabe in did he in further explains that in order to make sense of the events we experience we impose on them sentimental narratives to create meaning out of the senseless. This is the sentimental narrative. Did he and imposes on her connection to the Manson murders and to one of the star witnesses in Manson's trial? On the morning of John Kennedy's death and 1963 I was buying at Ron Sahaf since San Francisco a short silk dress in which to be married. A few years later, this dress of mine was ruined when at a dinner party in Bel Air Roman Polanski accidentally spilled a glass of red wine on it. Sharon Tate was also a guest at this party. Although she and Roman Polanski were not yet married on July 27th nineteen seventy. I went to the Mactan high shop on the third floor of I Magnien in Beverly Hills in picked out at Linda Kosabe ins request. The dress in which she began her testimony about the murders at Sharon Tate Polanski's house on C L O drive. Size-nine Petite her instructions red mini but not extremely many in velvet if possible. Emerald, green or gold, or a Mexican peasant style dress smocked or embroidered. She needed address that morning because the district attorney Vincent Bull you'll see had expressed doubts about the dress. She had planned to wear a long white home-spun shift long as for evening. Kate advised, Linda Long was for evening and White was for brides at her own wedding. A nineteen 65, Linda Kosabe Ian had worn a white brocade suit. Time passed times changed. Everything was to teach us something. At eleven twenty on that July morning and nineteen seventy, I delivered the dress in which she would testify to Gary Fleischmann, who is waiting in front of his office on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. He was wearing his pork pie had and he was standing with Linda's second husband, Bob Kosabe Ian and their friend Charlie Melton both of whom were wearing long white robes. Long was for Bob and Charlie, The dress in the eye Mactan box was for Linda. The three of them took the eye Magnien box and got into Gary Fleischmann's Cadillac convertible with the top down and drove off in the sunlight toward the freeway downtown waiting back at me I believe this to be an authentically Senseless chain of correspondences But in the jingle jangle morning of that summer, it made as much sense as anything else did
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"See. When she recovered, Barbara became more determined than ever to testify her insider knowledge of the family was damning as was the testimony of Juan Flynn. He said on the stand that he had heard Charlie admit his involvement in the murders. On July 27th star witness Linda Kosabe in was called to the stand. Boulia's he question Linda for four days, and by the third day, Charlie had started making throught slitting gestures. While she spoke on cross examination Manson's lawyer accused Linda frying her brain with drugs and tried to shame her for participating in orgies on spun ranch. Linda remained lucid and consistent throughout her seventeen days on the stand. Others sound Manson truth. IRS insist her testimony actually incriminates Tex Watson whilst absolving Manson. While Linda was testifying, the defence team got a gift when President Richard Nixon while giving a speech in Denver criticized the media for making a star Out of Manson Nixon said. Walsh guilty, uh, directly or indirectly of eight martyrs without reason. Here's a man new yet. As far as the coverage was concerned, appear to be her rather glamorous figure Glamour's figure to the young people whom he had brought into his operations. The nightly news and newspapers tend to glorify and too vague heroes out of those who engage in criminal activities. The jury was sequestered it said, theoretically, they wouldn't have heard about this except in court. Charlie somehow got hold of a newspaper with the front page headline. Manson guilty Nixon declares that afternoon. The three accused Manson girls stood up in court and asked the judge in unison era. Your honor as it has guilty, So I played high all. The next day Bailiffs had to Russell a hand-printed sign out of Charlie's hands. It read Nixon guilty Charlie's lawyer petition for a miss trial. But the judge denied the motion and Linda's testimony continued for another two weeks.
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"More. The media interest in ham had revived Manson's Rockstar dreams. He again started to believe that the endgame of everything he had done and continued to do could be Beatles Lommel stardom. He ordered squeaky defined Dennis Wilson and get him to hand over the tapes He had of Charlie's music so that they could be released a squeaky found Dennis Wilson and told him to give her the tapes uh, or die. Wilson's tapes had already been commandeered by Bouillaud seedy. But they were able to get a hold of the tapes made by Greg Jacobson and fill Kaufman agreed to put those out. Kaufman spent his own money to press two thousand copies of an album and squeaky wrote the liner knowns. Uh, the album has called Y and it was released the same day the weatherman axes. Lee blew up a townhouse in Greenwich Village while making a bomb intended for a military event in New Jersey. Fill Kaufman went around to all the local Indy record stores and had shops trying to get them to stock Charlie's album. Uh, but in a sign that the counter cultural tied with starting to turn. Uh, they all refused. Eventually Wojciech Laczkowski is family got a court order through which they were able to garnish any proceeds from the record. Uh, uh, today you can buy it on I tuned Mm. The trial finally began on June 15th nineteen seventy beginning with five weeks of jury selection. Two weeks into it Rolling Stone released their profile of Manson. And he didn't come off as the noble rebel hero the you imagined himself to be. In fact, he came off his pretty crazy. By the time the trial was ready to get underway for real in late July. Charlie decided to embrace the crazy. He appeared in court on the first day with a bloody letter X carved into the centre of his forehead. This was explained by a printed statement which Charlie had arranged to have handed out to spectators in which he claimed are ex-martial from your world Newman orders speaking for me, a speak for myself. I am not allowed to speak with words. So I've spoken with the mark. It will be wearing on my forehead. By the end of the day, Charlie had offered a bailiff a hundred thousand dollars, and each of the three female defendants had offered him their bodies if he would help them escape. By the end of the first week, Pat Suzanne and Leslie had all carved axes into their own foreheads as had many of the non incarcerated Manson girls who sat outside the courthouse every day. Others showed their loyalty to Charlie in more devious ways. Ruth and more house kept busy badgering Barbara Hoyt who is going to testify that she had heard Susan bragging about the murders. Eventually, ruth and promise, Barbara that she'd take her to Hawaii if she refused to testify Barbara agreed. And after a few days together in Honolulu, ruth and said that she had to leave, but told Barbara, she could stay at the airport ruth and bought Barbara a hamburger just before she got on the plane. Ruth and said to Barbara, Just imagine if there were ten tabs of acid in your hamburger minutes later, Barbara collapsed. Before she passed out, She croaked Call Mr. bully, all the see.
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"Testimony. In February, the LA Times ran a report from quote unquote, investigators detailing Manson's Beatles-inspired helter-skelter theory, if fully as he didn't feed this story to the paper himself. He certainly benefited from the local paper of record spelling out his preferred case the month before jury selection and Manson thought he was launching a counterstrike by agreeing to what he thought was going to be a loving profile and Rolling Stone in which he could explain helter-skelter in his own words and tie his theories about revolution and his current predicament to other current events, including Then ongoing trial of the Chicago Seven for inciting riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention at Charlie. As suggestion, The Rolling Stone riders went to spawn ranch where the remaining family members were. Neither of a free love innocence nor the brainwashed zombies the. Various reports had made them out to be by now they were media savvy enough to refuse to talk for free. There are also pissed off that The Beatles hadn't come to their defence yet. One family member asked the Rolling Stone reporter to give the Beatles their phone number and tell the band to call the ranch. Charlie's legal team had already sent letters to Apple records and even contemplated calling each individual Beadle as a witness. But by April nineteen seventy The Beatles themselves were no more.
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"Society. Some members of the family chose to protect themselves over putting the family first Tex Watson in jail in Texas successfully fought extradition to Los Angeles for months, despite pleas from the Manson girls to join them in presenting a united front. After Bobby Boso lays, first trial ended with a hung jury. The star witness at his second trial was Mary Brunner. The very first Manson girl who testified against Bobby in trade for immunity against prosecution for being an accessory to the murder of Gary Henman. Mary later returned to the man's enfold and tried to recant her testimony. But body had already been sentenced to death and sent to San Clinton. But Charlie didn't need to worry too much about losing family members because there were still members of the Manson family who weren't in jail and who weren't guilty of any crime that can be traced back to them. And they were keeping the family spirit alive. Sandy and squeaky convinced Manson's old prison buddy fill Kaufman to give the still faithful Manson family member as a place to stay. That worked for a while. But when Phil kick them out, They ended up back at spawn ranch where squeaky started organizing media visits. Though their ranks have been decimated by defections and arrests with Manson in the news all the time. Suddenly new people wanted to join the family. In fact, Charlie was inundated in jail with mail from teenage girls, asking his permission for them to follow him. Just as he used his previous dents in jail to absorb the disparate influences that would form the backbone of his preachings. Charlie use his pre-trial imprisonment to figure out what role he would play going into. The courtroom in terms of media attention getting charged with murder was the biggest break Charles Manson ever had. And He knew it. He was determined to put on a show. Manson did everything he could to be able to direct the proceedings as well as star in Lum. He insisted on defending himself which the judge, in the case called a sad and tragic mistake. Although he allowed it Manson also exercise the control. He stole wielded over his women to convince them that he Charles Manson knew what was best for them and not their lawyers. And that's why Leslie fired Her lawyer when he tried to get her examined by a psychiatrist. Charlie was allowed to appear before the judge multiple times before the trial actually began to make demands and make scenes. And each instance reinvigorated the press cycle in January nineteen, seventy Manson told the judge that his incarceration violated spiritual, mental and physical liberty. Lynn unconstitutional manner not in harmony with moons were God's law and demanded that the charges against him be dropped to which the judge responded and disappoint all these people never Mr Manson. Days later in court, again, The judge informed Manson that the trial was scheduled to begin February ninth Manson refused to enter a plea which the court considered equivalent to a plea of not guilty. Eventually, the judge rescinded his promise to allow Manson to defend himself, calling Manson incompetent, and assigning a prestigious litigator to the case. But Charlie fired that guy and hired Ronald Hughes and acquaintance with no trial record to speak of Charlie liked Hughes because he would be easy to overpower. It was the next best thing to represent himself. Uh, and then Charlie thought better of it, fired Hughes, who went on to defend Leslie Van Huten and hired a real defence attorney for himself named Irving counteract. Charlie eventually managed to get the original judge removed from the case on the grounds that he had exercise prejudice When he had declared Charlie unfit to represent himself. Charlie showed his respect for the new judge by turning his back to him in the courtroom. When Charlie refused to face the judge, he was removed from the courtroom, and in an obviously pre-arranged protest one-by-one Pat Suzanne and Leslie stood and turn their backs to the judge to a few days later when the defendants returned to the courtroom. The judge warned them that such antics were bound to alienate a jury. Charlie stretch his arms out in a crucifixion pose and said, you leave me, nothing you can kill me. Now, the three girls assumed the same pose and Charlie was dragged from the courtroom literally kicking and screaming. When Susan shouted you man as well cameras now because we are not going to get a fair trial, The judge ordered that the women be removed as well, And they chanted care. Yes. Yes, as they went. Charlie's meddling with the course of justice was pretty effective, and it was just one reason why behind the scenes. Prosecutors were scrambling. Tax was still in Texas and no one knew when or even if you'd be extradited to California. And even with the preponderance of evidence, the prosecution was an initially sure what their case was. Vincent Bouillaud See was determined to use helter-skelter Manson's made up race war as the motive. Other members of the DA's office thought it was to outlandish that they were better off calling. The murders robberies gone wrong. Even though the killers had barely robbed anything. Still loyal to Charlie. The remaining Fremantle and girls visited Susan often, and eventually convinced her to fire her attorney who had recommended that she cooperate with the prosecution Andrew refuse to testify against Charlie. With the loss of their star witness, the prosecution offered a total immunity deal to Linda custodian who was nine months pregnant in exchange for her testimony.
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"Room. Bouillaud see started to get worried that his whole case could live or die on a young lady who was as he put it. Probably not legally insane, But crazy nonetheless. The next day in front of the grand jury, The details Susan provided were so graphic that they made at least one juror physically gag. She told a different story than the ones she had regaled her jailhouse roommate's live to the grand jury Susan said that tax had ordered her to kill Sharon Tate bites. I couldn't s- when asked if she was in the habit of doing whatever Charlie told her to do since said that she had been later. She said, I wanna do not understand that. Charlie always told us, You do what you want to do. If you do not want to do it, do not do it. But when he would asked me to do something, I felt I had to go ahead and do it because I know he would do the same thing for me. Otherwise you when asked me to do it. With that said regarding August eighth 19th sixty nine Susan testified I never recalled getting any actual instructions from Charlie other than getting a change of clothing and a knife and knows told to do exactly what tax told me to do a couple of days later after also hearing testimony from Greg Jacobsen Danny DeCarlo and Manson girls Ruth an Diane and Nancy. The grand jury issued indictments on seven counts of murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder for Charles Manson. Charles Watson, Susan Atkins, Linda Kosabe yin and Patricia Krenwinkle. Leslie, Van Huten was indicted on two counts of murder for her involvement in the lobby Janka killings and one count of conspiracy to commit murder. On December ninth Charles Manson was formally charged in India County and transported to the county jail in downtown Los Angeles by the. Time he arrived, a huge crowd of onlookers had gathered inside and outside. The building Manson was dressed in his Buckskins suit that had been sewn together for him by his girls underneath the head to toe wrapping of heavy chains as cameras flashed and strangers gawked Manson doesn't look angry or scared or scary. He looks cool and almost happy. Finally, he was getting the attention he for so long felt he so richly deserved. Of course, most of the media attention wasn't exactly friendly. Manson his family and their activities became a bogeyman something critics of the counter-culture could point to as undeniable proof of the evils of long hair free love psychedelic drugs and rock and roll, though Manson's attack on the establishment wasn't aligned with any kind of legitimate political point of view. It was easy enough to use them as a. Assembled to disparage legitimate student protesters and activists, who may be advocated for things in the Manson ballpark, say communal living. But for the most part, just kind of looked like him. And because so many of the attacks on Manson included wholesale attacks on hippies and other disaffected youth. A backlash started to swell. A lot of people started to wonder if Manson was an innocent man who was being persecuted for daring to live outside of conventional society.