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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 120: Fite For Your Right To JLIT (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 120: Fite For Your Right To JLIT (Preview)

"This is Mr Fund Size Marco Stein. You're listening to wrestling cheers world got all your show and how would you live again away. Sometimes where everybody John Trump you wanna know when you eh and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially on fight TV this this is wrestling chairs would like to talk about things we'll independent wrestling seen we preview shows we review shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way. This is a preview episode for this Friday's A._i.. Ws Show J._T.. J._T.. Lightning Invitational Tournament Twenty Thousand Day One can't really preview day to just yet wrestling cheers is brought to you by training topics network Midwest territory and key on Sports. I'm your host. I am just in summers. Please Great Review unsubscribe. Wherever you listen to this fine podcast it'd be apple podcasts Google podcast ichard tune in YouTube spotify iheartradio piping wrestling cheers pod bean dot com find us on facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash rushing cheers twitter dot com slash resin cheers instagram graham dot com slash wrestlers email if you choose his I._R._S. and cheers at Jimoh Dot Com and we have the merged or over at what maneuver dot net like I said we will be previewing Fridays and w show the day one of the annual Jalen Tournament Tournament and with me this week we have rick greetings? I'm doing good. It's always a fun fun jalen weekend. I love jail. That's one of my favorite weekends of the year. I'm sad sad that it's not the non-regular Memorial Day but just for me because I have nothing else to compare like associated with. It doesn't still feels like J. Weekend. Just because it's north more feels a little bit different but you know what three shows in two days days it's a hall and I think people just like having that extra day that Kinda recover from it but <hes> you know you and I were not big drinkers at the show anyways so I think we'll get through justified and we also have stacy. Hey Man. How's it going? Welcome after the show yeah. It's been a long since I've been on how many in a row you WANNA and at least three I think okay that's what I thought to have been three. We will be breaking that streak somewhat <hes> basically basically a little programming note because there's a lot of show <hes> we're not gonNA preview the whole weekend. We can't really preview day two of the jail at tournament so we will be doing day one and that will be released by fearlessness today Thursday and Friday. We're going to have the Chandler big memorial tournament preview because that's the only other thing that we can preview and if we sat there and recorded an episode previewing all this like I'm very serious. We're talking like a three hour episode this just by I love and you can can finish on Thursday and come back Friday baby even come back for Saturday on your way to the Chandler begins memorial detecting tournament so <hes> forgotten what twenty twenty one twenty four person Ersan Tournament and let's we're going to do a little bit different format normally with previews with you know we pick three and then we pick do all the picks after that well. There's a lot of matches and began to just kind of skip all of that but we're just going to go through all of them. Make our picks and talk a little bit about the magic one where we're looking forward to and what we obviously see common so we're going to break this down in order of the bracket starting at the top and working our way the bottom of so up at the top the very first match in bracket a Louis Linden Verses Kid Kash Stacey. I'm pretty sure you are excited for Kid Kash man. I'm excited for anybody the WHO was in East C._W.. Even if you're gimmick was that I'm kid rock but no I'm. I'm excited for Kid Kash. I get the Lewis Linden spot so I don't know he's pushing fifty. We'll see what he can do. I mean Mardi Janie went last year. He he sure fucking did <hes>. I think we might get a little bit better than what Mardi was able to give us out of Kim cash. What do you think about this metric while I'm marked out like crazy when I saw the graphic for cash huge huge easy w mark <hes> probably the only guy that would make me mark more would be Saima diamond ever decided to <hes> to come out of retirement? Take Thorns invitation for meet and greet <hes> just like Stacey said he gets the Lewis. Linden spot good for him. Hopefully he beats Lewis London because I can't bear sit through that many more Lewis Linden matches. I think regardless of what happens. We're going to get to see ah cash for both nights. I don't think thorn brings him in just for one night <hes> A._b._c. me the pictures of Kid Kash. He's a frigging monster huge and the guy was still wrestling in what last year two thousand seventeen still printing on on pretty good show <unk> surprise not really huge on cash and I mean Linden. It's always seen him about <hes>. We're going to talk about picks. <hes> I'll go with kid Kash. I think he he gets wind goes onto the second round. What do you think Stacey he cash for sure he abbott? Go kick captures while next up well. We we keep both members of air form in back brackets we have K._t.. Be versus flip the Kendrick fucking. We all love K._G._B.. Moves from the woods from the from the fucking was and if I'm correct I've been told he has great ass march. He's he's got pretty good merch. This is kind of <unk> but this is kind of a emerge heavy bracket because we have someone else <hes> towards the WHO's also really good merch but we kill that the death <hes> what do you think about algae this K._T._B._S. man A._T._b.. Wins this match but it's going to be really good because every time I've seen K. T._B.. Wrestle Agai WHO's like faster and smaller. It's it's always really fucking good <hes> his K._T._B._S.. He's in there with somebody who works fast. Go fast yeah so it's it's going to be K._T._B._S. and it's going to be a fucking. Maybe the best match in round one. What are your thoughts on this metric the I think K._T.? Goes over for sure I think of that guys on a roll. I mean he's been a we've only had him for what six months eight months it only seems like but he's he's got to be a pretty much a regular at most ad w I see this guy everywhere now I do here like you said he has. Some great comma ask asked Comma Merch but <hes> I think we see <hes> I think we see the flipper and Linden may be on Saturday night. Maybe tagging backup since we're putting those were put in former tag teams together with euthanasia. Maybe we see those guys is both take els and then get together on Saturday to try to try to get back in the wind cal like where you think in there. I kinda thought that myself when I was filling out my bracket yeah. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA GO Katy B two he's. He's definitely someone who's been on a roll like I don't know exact record of Ubud fucking kill it every time and that's how wrestler start out in a w in the next thing you know you know they're winning championships. We got we got everybody's pick on that. One right YEP from LEWITT's speaks speaking of K._T.. Opponents that are very short. We have what's going to be my favorite match of the night and I've gotten Shit Ford already marco stunt making his A._i.. W debut against my my nemesis some people would say tim danced. I've highly looking forward to this match not just because I get to actually finally see Marco. Stunt wrestle live not because I could see one of my favorite ulcers go up against do that. I liked it <hes> against but I'll just fucking danced okay. He's always puts on always but he has a lot of good matches lot of good rivalries lots of good shit with him and basically we talk about a lot of measuring sticks in w view downstairs one of them. I heard <hes> thorns on the podcast you know he's the Roman reigns of W and I I kind of agree so yeah brig afforded this but I'll throw at my pick now as much as I would love to see Marco advance dance and go to the next round. I see other things for Marco Day too so that's where I'm GonNa put it donswindows. What did I think of this semester with brick? Dow the big dog Tim Dance. I I could see it exactly the way that you you just said having said that Pick Marco I think I picked him in my bracket. I just a you know maybe we over think this stuff and we start thinking about <hes> like second round. Well you could see K. T._b.. And Marco go back in the same ring at the same time <hes> both of them were kind of put farther on the map by that match that they had earlier. Do we want to rehash history a little bit. What do we WANNA? Do you know I know it's away but you get some interesting parents but then again to you know daas just always there. He's always winning. He's always around the you know one of the things I like about these jalen tournaments. Is there so many matches that you could you can make a definite case for either way. This is going to one of them but I I'm going to go pick pick Marco advanced. How about you stacey men? Do you even have to ask Tim. fucking danced is GONNA win. I thought you're GONNA you're going to pick marco. That's that's what I figured. Oh Yeah. No you figured wrong friend. <hes> Tim fucking dawn's twins if I put on facebook. I wonder if I'm going to do for everyone says Tim Don's. I'm GONNA do the same psychology for you. Kill against exactly what you're gonNA root for or who who you got winning here but then again whatever I'm rooting for his. I'm rooting for stunt but I'd I'd l._l.. Donswindows that's what I've said for awhile but other than that which is danced hasn't sniff the title how long and as much <hes> I might not as much as I might not like it sometimes still L. Entertaining. Oh Man Gym dance is great and he's GonNa win. I don't know how that will even you know. That's not even a thing. Obviously Tim now next up. We have Dan housing versus Matt Justice Motherfucker Man. It's one that's one for you. Stays who the fuck you pick the man I mean so in in two thousand up a lot on the podcast and pick against justice man. It's Matt just mad justices fucking year I it's Justice Justice Chon album and the process. It's like justices two years that he's been on returned w she's better and better and better Beth Ma- justice for sure this is going. Be a really good match to be in house and a lot of singles matches and this is going to be a good one. How about you rick? I'm picking justice in this match. I think he's just too tough and you know the the four way. Scramble Granville kind of stuff is is built for justice. I already have a bracket that was submitted to be for Jalen contest. which has Dan Hausen winning it? <hes> you know you start to think outside the box. Dan How's winds J. Lit Eddie N. Derek when Chandler biggins cop you know maybe it could be a good production weekend having said that I think justices just too crazy on too big of a role right now. He still has the Satan Belt in you know that's that's enough to get them through man. If there ever should've been a match four black craft for that Satan Belt it's this just as Dan Housing match man. They dropped the fucking ball over there when they didn't bring Dan Housing and I don't know if they even exist anymore a man you know Justin Yeah I got my photo with a justice has the belt. That's all the matters whenever we're done. We'll pick a a final my winter but the the pick that I wanNA throw out now is early in the year in January we had just early bird predictions and we did gauntlet and jail it though only person that got gauntlet right was stacey and Jalen Stacey also picked match us as did I which will get to later if that is his pick now or not but will will see for me. I gotta go. I gotta go justice. I love Dan Housing and at the same time WHO's to say that Dan how's not maybe with the production in a maybe a six men tag match night to then avow correct you guys both justice to Right. Oh yeah unanimous justice have we picked identical illustrate down the board <hes> not you're the only one the pick Marco I thought all right and <hes> we'll do a little bit differently will couture. We'll go to a small inspirational ad and we'll be right back. Quick bracket to you wake up every morning. Guess yourself out of bed and look in the mirror in realize that you don't recognize the person looking back you don't feel as holes you shut you feel about half them getting your car and go about your daily activities and you think about all the opportunities that you missed opportunities opportunities. You didn't take doors you left close instead of you. Think about all the things that you could have done and the things that you chose to do instead that's where I commend my named Dr Daniel See Rockingham and I am not only motivational speaker. I'm a personal development coach and my three principal system has changed allies of countless people all over the world <music>. I invite all of you to stay with me today and listen as I help you. Change your lines and give all of you a new beginning all right. We're going to start into bracket you too. I like this one M J F purses Savio Vega fucking what are the odds that NJ F- mentions bruiser brody alive while wasn't wasn't Salvio around that I'm getting into trying to get inside his head of what he would say and that's the top thing that comes to my mind whether he would do say that. Maybe I'm Jay Z.. Young fellow he might not even know who Salvia Vega's this. That's that's factual. That's that is true to say to precisely Vega Gabby to have. We anybody seen how <hes> are what kind of shape he's in now. Nope we know the John Thorn has been chasing facing him for years so who knows the jury is out. I don't know if it matters gotTa Shave these in it. I don't think it does your right. I'm just trying to put a mental picture of what I think. He's he's GonNa look like and then see if he impresses me or it's what I expect. I don't even know what I expect the problem I I haven't seen Salvio Vega like seen a picture of what Salvio Vega looks like for anytime in the last decade aid so who knows you know what I'm picturing when I think of Sabio Vega look I know what's Obvio- Vega looked like you know back in the day and I'm thinking <hes> you ever watched Saturday night. Live and Keenan Thomson does like like an old band character and all they do to him as like a little bit of white in his hair. That's pictures of the Oh Vegas going to be the same guy for just a little whiteness hair little bit gray yeah. I'M GONNA put down a nick. I'm going to go M._J.. Half how Rick I'm GonNa go Salvio Vega just because John Thorn has been looking for Salvio Vega for ever and I don't think there's any way that John only lets him hang around for one night base as you no I have. I'm Jeff. I I think I think Salvio can still be around on night to and not have to be matches. Taxing that four way match would be Savia. Kid Kash has pushed him fifty. Salvio Sabio has eclipsed fifty yeah I. I don't know the deceased obvio- Vega but I don't think he can beat them. Jess Jeff Ones Landon the Curt Hawkins Buddy matchup. We have pet buck verses horns waddell. I'm not too familiar with that book of than the whole Rybeck podcast Shit and even that I didn't listen but I knew that he was a part of the show Oh man he's on the Rybeck podcast he will he was at one one point. I guess ever listened to just read the Ri- caps the you know anything about this rick. I know nothing about Pat Buck other than is you know his relationship with the Hawkins and and so forth <hes> I know nothing about Pat Bach. I'm anxious to see him because he looks like a monster in size. He's a he's. A dude has been around for a long time figuring out having having said that he's a monster so swat will probably beat them probably tap him out todd. I hope that just looking actually at this bracket of what the potential like people wind up around to some fun Chet I'm GonNa go. I'm GONNA go squabble. I'll be you stated man. I would love to swallow but I'm I'm going Pat Buck with Rick. He looks like a monster in that picture and yeah payback through there you go. That's where you go. I'm going to swallow. I just think that this middle these brackets are put together just very odd to me like <hes> this middle bracket. I just picture being like the kind of oddball second round you know I've already picked Salvio Vega to go through. You might as well adds to the next up. We have Lee Moriarty versus Colt Cabana. If I'm correct this is Lee Moriarty's second announced singles match up in w his debut in the Jalen Tournament and he's going up against Colt Cabana big spot big moment for him and who doesn't love a Colt Cabana match. Don't answer that because I'm pretty sure there are people out there who don't like cocoa Beta matches but that's a was supposed to be rhetorical question Russian. What are your thoughts on the Stacey man out good? Is it for lead that he gets Colt Cabana then be a really good match. I've never seen Lee in like a comedy match. Know How that's going to be but I'm excited to see it. However however I think Cococabana wins? How about you rick? Is this going to be a comedy match. I mean are we going to get like N._W._e._a.. Champion Colt Cabana in this one you know what are we looking at but in a high probably probably brings about I'm picking Cabana just to go with the theme of a second round match was Sabato Vegas Waddell and Hoke Aban out so we gotta go Colt Cabana just in the hopes that this happens. I'M GONNA GO COCOCABANA next up. We have doctored Daniels see Rockingham verses Manse Warner I don't I don't know what say about this match. I'm speechless. The the return. Maybe of Dr Death match the Kgon brutal style of Man's Warner. This is going to be so good. <hes> I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go with an upset. I'M GONNA say Dr Daniel See Rockingham. How about you stacey men? You Pick in Dr Dan to be Manse Warner. I I'm not saying it's going to be fair. <hes> man so is going to beat the shit out of Dr Dan. I you know what I wanna see as honesty manser staple one of those pamphlets Dan's tongue that and really think Dan's going to win and was just pretty brutal like he gave Steve Joey Ryan a beat Joey Ryan gave him a below the belt paper cut so I mean who knows death match but man. I can't pick against Manser. We got Parker Pierce that could potentially be involved. Duke could be involved. Maybe the duke screws up hits Vance with the boot cost him the match on. I'd if it's a straight up one on one no interference no bullshit Oh yeah manslaughter all day but I think Manson's going to find some bad shit but it won't be his fault. How about you rick? I think this is that sneaky fifteen to match up in the N._C._A._A.. Tournament we go wow there's no way number two seeds GonNa get knocked off by fifty leave. Keep a close through third quarter into the fourth quarter and something <hes> something goes crazy. I'm also GONNA pick Dr Daniel See Rockingham to pull the upset here of the brackets that I'm getting in early. Probably sixty sixty percent of the brackets have manse Warner winning the whole damn thing. I think that this match is a red herring. I think it's their throw us off the trail of man's Warner. I think the second bracket is the comedy bracket so we're going to get that savvy. Oh Vegas Swath Will Cabana D._C.. Are Matchup. Can you imagine how ridiculous that thing is. GonNa look in the second round. I'M GONNA put D._C._R.'s well so I meant to bring it up early in the show but explain everything everything about the brackets that people are sending how we're we're doing a little thing on mostly on twitter facebook is fine to <hes> doing a Hashtag J. Lit contest. All you gotTa do a send in a bracket <hes> you can get the empty brackets. It's anywhere my my twitter has a w obviously or steel somebody else's white out a couple of names whatever you WanNa do and <hes> we're getting a lot of guys that are that are sending me messages donating prizes for winner. You know it's a March Manda style. You know point for the first round two points for the second four points if you pick the winner high score wins the only <hes> I guess the the only thing is you either have to be in attendance. You gotta buy a ticket to sometime. During the weekend or you gotTa buy it on T._V.. To participate so you buy ticket or you watch the show live T._v.. You can participate. We were big out like philly affiliate. Marino headbands have been donated. I got a copy of the Steve Guy Memoirs of a wing Man. He's GonNa for us. We got four pack of toilet paper autographed by Dr Day and you'll see Rockingham. That's going to go in the prize package. We gotTA shout out from I'm Ed and pat over on pod Bay and dam which is a lot of fun and we're GonNa do a whoever wins this thing we're going to do a cameo video from a celebrity and you can't see my air quotes but amusing air quotes around the word celebrity <hes> because if you've been on cameo you've seen there's a lot of Wasi celebrities on their who will be congratulating you on your two thousand nineteen. J. Lit bracket win. <hes> stationed silvers already has some great ideas for cameo celebrities and there's probably going to be another say they're seven eight prizes that are GonNa get included in this bad boy before the whole thing's done <hes> some of these good stuff. Some of its KUNG GPS t tongue in cheek steph easy for for me to say but <hes> I think it's GonNa be a lot of fun. Just <hes> throw record Hashtag. J Let contest you can tag me if you want at Rick Nelson Twenty one so I see it. I put a little hardy like on it so I know that I saw it. It's just fun. We're just having a good. We're just having you know trying to try to spread the love and get your picks and everybody likes to do brackets for everything brackets refund right. Let's <hes> let's add a prize right here on. What are you get on behalf of wrestling cheers? If you win uh you get a free paid front row seat to absolution. WHOA that is a how big that's a big addition I on behalf of whoever wins US and it won't be me is obviously not eligible way? I want to thank you advance for that because that is a that's a that's a big prize to go out of pocket for so that's all we have a history on this show of giving out tickets and haven't done it in a while. I always wanted to be something nothing meaningful or hey go. Give us a review and we'll give some free shout but the one was always my favorite was I think I got this from biggins where I wish I remember we gave away tickets for some show but it had to be for somebody or the only people who could win is someone who had never been to an ad show so you could if you were you had been w show as long as you promised to give that to a friend who has never been to one and it's Kinda K. I got your free ticket. Let's go yeah so I like to do crazy shit like that so yeah. Let's do a paid front row seat at Abso so that's that was all of that bracket and then well. I guess we'll be right back after this second paid advertisement attachment. I'm glad to see that no one has left but now you're asking yourself document. Are you going to tell us what the D._C.. Our system is I will tell you now three simple the principals at change everyone's lives dedication confidence in respect d. c. r. if one is dedicated to themselves confident in oneself and respectful of oneself there is nothing that they cannot accomplish those three principles are the building blocks of anything. You wished to achieve if you just remember D. C. R. There's nothing a you cannot accomplish but sometimes you feel that isn't enough. Sometimes you need to be a little more focused on the task at don't worry to go along with medication confidence and respect respect. You can always remember rule number one all right third and final bracket. This one fucked just kind of looking at you might have the <HES> spey them bad ass bracket. <hes> we start things off with Eric Stevens versus Dominic Greeny and fell openly admit I'm not brushed up too much on Eric Stevens but I know as soon as he got announced. That Saddam started posting on twitter that that's who he wanted so he gets stacey. I think you're you're more familiar with him. Obviously I am <hes> yeah I mean he's a he's a guy that hasn't been around for a while but he was. I'm pretty sure it was a ring honor Guy <hes> <hes> I thought I read that he he was he was quit or whatever he last time he was entering a volume two thousand ten. I started following the eleven so like I of like current stuff. I just missed him yeah. I it was during a time where I wasn't actively actively watching Ragavan or so. I've only seen him going back and watching stuff. That says I twenty ten probably is around the last time that he was there but yeah this match is going to be really good. Though ever dom gets to Russell somebody that he really wants to wrestle missile you rick. I know nothing of Eric Stevens therefore I have to pick dominic. I think I'll I'll I'll pick dom to kind of the same thing of not knowing much about Air Stevens potentially see him in day to as well at some point thing that we got to mention to and I think it's going to be important to this part of the bracket is filthy. Tom Sawyer will be at Jalen in on at night to he will defend the absolute championship championship against somebody. That's all we know who's WHO's your pick on this DEYSI. Oh Dom Dominos next up. We have a rematch of one of the best matches of seven year itch Eddie Kingston and an sack Thomas Eddie Kingston winning gone for the gold. Kinda doesn't really need to have another title shot but it has opportunity in fucking Zach Thomas Dude who just we've talked about so many times of I'll say the great year he's had a just getting better and better and becoming that much more of a bad ass. This is going to be crazy fucking match. I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go to Kingston. How about you spacing? I I'm doing things done for sure sugar. This is the other match in the first round like for night. One that I think has the potential to be the match <hes> I real tough stiff <hes> the Shit Outta each other match but Eddie Kingston wet. How about you rick? I think Zach Thomas is developing a real mean streak as he's a progressing. I think exactly what you guys said. Two guys are just going to beat the crap out of each other in my bracket. I Have Kingston thin advancing so I guess I'm GonNa Stick with that but it would not surprise me at all to see Zach Thomas get the win here next up. We have no consequences whether you want to save is the the bitterness between them. The whatever Joshua Bishop versus trae Lamar and of course you know Josh Bishop is going to have the one and only West Barclay corner for this one. I gotta go with Joshua Bishop. Have a you rick. I'm going to go bishop too but it's going to be interesting to see whether or not trae has <hes> a fellow that's absent in the tournament P._b.. smooths hanging around in on now that him and A._J.. Jay and <hes> trae cohesive unit. You know who's to say the P._B.. Smooth doesn't come down there to counteract Mr Maserati West but I think bishop in all the stuff he's been through lately. He's just going to be a way to tougher trae. Probably are you saying man. How can you bet against Josh Bishop but the fucking year he's Avin? There's no way trays good for Israel. Good matched really good but there's no way he beats bishop and the fact that West Barclay can interfere. That's a stacked back deck. I you know with forty acres. He could have P._B.. There <hes> you could have Asia gray out there but at man it's Josh by Bishop Wayne A._J.. Gray might be a little occupied depending on where at this match for <hes> falls on the car next match falls on the card Nick fucking gauge versus a Jay gray the king nick fuck engage which the only other wrestler that was picked picked to win Jalen of the people that were on for the show episode back in January was Nick Gage by dozen Alberti and Kagan so I'm. I'm curious to see what happens with this we've seen A._J.. Gray a go up against justice and we saw what happened there like A._J.. Gray kick some fucking ass but if I'm picking anybody I gotta go with Nick fucking gauge all day. How about you rick? I think this is another the second possible double trap match of the night where this is another one where nine percent of the people are just got right down gauge in the bracket not even think about it. You know what happens of A._J.. Gray pulls the upset. Then Nick Gage puts his puts his hat in the ring mm to try to challenge filthy Tom for the w title you know on night to <hes> gets out of the tournament so he can get that title shot instead. You just never know gauges the smart guy but he's he's been known to be a little underhanded at times. So you know I gotTa pick gauge. It's like can't see A._J.. Gray being able to handle gauges style man. I definitely see this one being just a trap these days man so I try not I two things right. Jay Gray is beast that I've seen nick gage someone with the skill set the A._J.. Has the the agility in the strength and I try not to over think it in like Oh. What could the ideas be for day to try to just look at? This is like a one wrestling at I got picked gauge. I think that gauge wins. I don't know what A._J.. Gray can do that. No negage is fucking. Just just fucking. You know there's anything geographic in due to to overcome Nick Gage INS match. What was I think looking at it the other way? I think if all three members of forty acres don't have any any involvement in the tournament in day to that makes them more available to do of it. What if day to we see forty acres versus the production? Oh that'd be fun one. I would be great match and it works out with my bracket. Do we get your pick for this. Rick got game took ago. Who Do you guys have as your final winner start with stacy so the three guys that I have going in manser which holy fuck what kind of matches that that's amazing amazing <hes> and I have manse win in the whole thing I'm part of that sixty percent of people who've submitted their brackets with Manson I think at some point in the whole thing the Josh Matt stuff their their rivalry will make Reagan opportunity for Manse to be able to take advantage of and get one hobby wreck? I think Matt Justice just to to stop right now. I think he is on a major major role. That eventually is going to see him. Take the double <unk>. I W title off of who ever may hold it whether it's wall or Kingston or whoever the heck it is I have met just still in the whole thing also going to go with match US winning the whole thing kind of just backing up. My early prediction in the here haven't brag yet so I haven't figured out how that would follow that what happened but with the run that met justices had I could easily see him win. Maybe he beats bishop. Maybe he doesn't but if he would beat Bishop to win it. Wouldn't that make him a number. One contender backed up to the intense championship. I think we could you he could win but still continue the feud with with bishops so that's a pretty much all our thoughts really quick quick as we could do for day one of the Jalen Tournament <hes> any final thoughts are less minute plugs for we go or let's do a final thoughts on Jalen has a whole sore stacey men Jalen gala is one of my favorite weekends of the year period not just like wrestling weekends but like all add all fifty two jailbirds like weekends of the year from <hes> the Friday night is a long night Saturday. You don't really have have to be back in the building to three in the afternoon this year. We're not doing the tailgate before. I don't think because of the parking lot <hes> but it's like it's for good reason it's to commemorate to people who were incredibly important wrestling <hes> with the biggest cup on dates you and with the J._T.. Lightning tournament I man it's good time. The after parties are a lot of fun. The shows are always really good. I have never once been to jail it and been like Oh man. I wish I haven't gone like it's always a good time. The show that got me to start coming to a W so we again and everybody should bring their asses out to building. Cover your yeah. It is one of the most fun <hes> also wrestling weekends of the year you know the only thing tops it as you know that craziness in independent wrestling that is the menu mania week but as far as local is concerned is a great venue. It's going to be beautiful this weekend end. You're right there on the water so it's GonNa be a nice. You know nice backdrop for wrestling the Odeon is a great place to watch wrestling. It's also a good weekend to kind of mingle get to know people you know say they had people. You'd never said Hi to <unk>. You're GONNA be sharing the space with people for basically a day and a half. You know we're going to be hanging out in doors for the better part of you know eighteen twenty hours so you know say hi to people people you a Bentley now <hes> get to know some <hes> get to know some New People. It's you know it's a it's a whole community thing we've been. We've always been given compliments people from out of town about what a great community a W has and leave on area area. You know it's a time it's time to show show made of you. Get to see official debuts of all the you know. All the students at the Chandler up begins tag team tournament and you just never know what will happen. You never know who will show. You never know who's GonNa win. These things you know. It's going to be a great weekend by some tickets. Man Night to always has like you were talking about. Surprises like night to always has some weird shit man. I never thought I would see that. 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Episode 240: Eddie Guerrero

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

2:45:41 hr | 7 months ago

Episode 240: Eddie Guerrero

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Take machine damn good something the rest of the rules. Thank you say one it happened. Well sure to good so good girl. Thailand lack wrestler rest of wrestle with rats opposite. And you're listening to something to wrestle with numbers pritchard. -burse what's going on man. How are you well. Probably my favorite subject. We will finally finally get to address. Signor eduardo. get animal or is michael cole. Used to say in the heat of the moment eddie. Guerrero he put an eye at the end instead of the. Yeah he did drove me fucking nuts for you're still does i think it's i think it's a i think it's a south texas thing like down around mcallen and all their down in the valley though those folks for some reason put a put an a instead were owes should be a lot of times least in their pronunciation is like The dave silvo. You don't wanna like i like that. Your ass has been in connecticut for about a year in ear already. She had talking accents. All over the nation she had talked alabam. Should talk and texarkana you just you know you become one of them bruce. Are you talking to anybody are you. Are you your snickers. Where the damn knife and fork. Now zada trick question. How you really do have eat them. Well i'm not usually a snickers eater. But if i were use my fingers imagine my wife gave me shit the day because i We have Some kind of dish. Italian dishes had tallied you bread and everything and i took the bread. Cut up our god. You've been hanging vance too long. And i let it so while i was leading soak in the in the sauce our well. That's fine in their eighty four. You sopping it up. That's what we call it the south. Yeah yes i'm a stopper. Yeah but the fact that i was doing it with i actually cut it up and then eat with a fork. I guess kinda threw her off. Yeah she thought you were You're too far gone. No just. I enjoyed the bread. I enjoyed the sauce and so two great tastes tastes great together. Listen i. I'm excited to be here doing this episode. We have wanted to cover. Eddie guerrero for a long time. We decided years ago that we were going to do it on the unfortunate fifteen year anniversary of his death. Which was yesterday. Were a day late here on something to wrestle but Things are stressful these days. So we apologize for the delay but we are very excited to be here talking about one of the greatest wrestlers that ever lived and some. I didn't say you were. I said these are stressful times. It could've been me. You know i mean everybody knows. Sometimes that my shows are a little late sometimes. A lot going on looks problem. I'll do my best. Well you know what the kinds people in this world. Oh god i feel like i'm those give their best shot there. Those do whatever it takes. I'm doing whatever it takes today to bring you eddie guerrero. Of course we all know him as one of the greatest wrestlers that ever lived. But bruce you know him as a great friend as well so this is gonna be a very good show eduardo. Gory guerrero You're up to help me with this. Lawa's jaanus john s born october ninth nineteen sixty seven in juarez mexico. Of course salvador. Gory guerrero was his father. A first generation wrestler and our yanez the sister of a wrestler herself. And i guess it's spanish custom to include both names. I'm learning things every day. Here on something to wrestle c. And he's one of six children that the couples going to have along with chabot mondo hector maria and linda. But there's a large age gap across all the siblings. Travaux for example was born in nineteen forty nine So eddie's on the younger end you've you've known the family for a long time and you sort of referred to yourself as an honorary guerrero Chats up when did you first become familiar with the family. I assume it's probably saying some of the older family members come through the houston market. Faulk man el paso texas nineteen sixty seven thousand. Nine hundred. sixty eight is kid. I remember seeing gory guerrero. And gory was the promoter of el paso for them. Realtor tori that the fox owned. So you'd come through. And you work el paso and there was a ray announced their sowell parades and saul in. Gory used to sit at the front door of the el paso coliseum welcome everybody coming into the arena and i remember just being larger than life. There was gory guerrero. We say larger life to forty five year old kid. Gory was definitely larger than life. But in real life or he wasn't the biggest guy in the world. The events were presented on monday nights with the likes. Jc dykes infernos handsome harley race and of course the greatest of all time dory and terry funk along with the patriarch of the font family dory funk junior so i was exposed to gory guerrero quite early. You said the patriarch gordon dory funk junior but she means senior senior yup i did. Yes the dad. They'll god damn dead course. You don't have to cuss me. You have to get three retired. Connie i'm tired. I'm tired now. Yellow dami. Listen you've denied the rumors online that you are sleepy tired and stressed so you better watch your words here. You're going to get a buzz and again so sleepy. I don't know what you are. I don't wanna make assumptions. We are sounds like you're something in your in your in your vocal tone if you will any has always wanted to be a pro wrestler. His whole life instead of jungle gym it a wrestling ring in his backyard. It didn't get to watch his father wrestling in his prime but he watched him toward the end and eighty still felt that excitement is family. Didn't pressure him to enter the business. But he felt the pressure of the guerrero name and because of that he always strived for excellence. And it's interesting to find where someone's inner drive comes from you. Think that this family pressure and this reputation is something that really pushed him to excel at the level he did. I mean he's going to overcome a lot of obstacles in his career. And we're gonna cover a lot of them today but is this just instilled in him as a young person. I think it was instilled at genetic more than anything. I think that you look at eddie. Guerrero eddie. guerrero knew what he wanted to do. From the time that He jumped out of his mama's body. And said i wanna wrestle his brothers. All wrestlers is father when the greatest of all times and any looked at this is his life calling. And i don't believe that eddie ever had any consideration to do anything else with his life so yeah it was. It just was genetic in this case. Any was wired to be a wrestler man. Christmas is going to be here before you know it. Unfortunately it's going to be extra stress this year with lots of added expenses for she got to your holiday shopping before probably going to be some travel involved. It's just been a tough year. But i wanna make this the best christmas ever listen. You may have tried to do this. 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I think he probably would the top of the amateur wrestling game. Maybe going to the olympics. But thank god that didn't happen in eddie was able to start to focus on his calling for the rest of his life which was professional wrestling and eddie was going to be the best at it because his last name was get adult at the time and his best friend was a fellow named aren't florez who was his bodyguard spider in the L w oh that. I'm sure some of you remember from wcw Fluorescent another friend named hector hurricane hector rincon trained with eddie initially learned for a long manga. Cr- creek your. I'm just days on this show just to translate our hillbilly asses. Invoking data correct mexican pronunciations. This was just after his father had experienced a stroke and thus could only got a sign and not physically participate as much Eddie has practice wrestling with his brothers his entire life going into this training so we pretty much understand the basics and he takes a lot of the influence from his family style but chavez senior was his biggest influence. Is this what you hear. So much about second generation wrestlers because they just grew up sort of immersed in a business and way that someone who was an outsider. Couldn't really understand yes. I think that if you're born into this business should born into very unique culture that especially during the time that any was growing up in the seventies secretive and protected to the point that even within your own home. There was a lot that was unknown. So for eddie you know. He's he's he sees this mysterious world. That is brothers are in his father as his mama's in and want he too wants to be in but even at that young age still was smartened up to the point of understanding. The ins and outs of business so grill begins his wrestling career as a scarrott magika and am l. l. empresa mexicana deluce. Libra negra kaas l. Dan day in atlanta where the wrestler described as his biggest influences early on leaves the company in ninety two. He's not happy with this push is going to go for a bigger paycheck with aaa. Which at the time is more like an outlaw promotion and Even though his gimmick was popular am l. l. Owned the rights to the character so guerrero then appears on televised aaa show as that. Same gimmick only to unmask himself along with the aid of his tag team partner. That night octagon aaa. It feels like has been around forever and ever but we know that's not exactly the case they were sort of the. The young upstart will. What do you remember about the differences between those two promotions. Because you're probably more familiar than maybe some of the other areas of the country because you're right there in texas well Trivia was something that was similar to wwe in that m m l. was more traditional and then Triple came in. And they were flamboyant. They had the great ring entrances and they focused more on character and stories and things of that nature. That was different. It was a different presentation than what the audience had been used to so it was in some cases it was looked down account frowned upon and others. It was people looking at it going. Wow we've never seen this before right. Says the more flamboyant of the promotions in my opinion negra costas coast to japan takes eddie with him in ninety three and his brothers scare them into thinking he needed to be in super shape. So he's running three hours a day in the desert to get ready and he meets crispin wa who actually knocks him out in their very first match and he describes chris as his best friend he also mates finlay in new japan and of course we know these relationships last far beyond this initial japanese run he starts wrestling as black tiger number two while in japan and according to the correct pronunciation would be a black tiger. Dose tiger is a wrestler train. This according to the story line. Black tiger is a wrestler trained and sent by yakuza like called the tiger's cave and the tiger's cave desired vince upon the wrestler tiger. Mask a former trainee of theirs for publicly turning his back on them and no longer paying them. Their monetary tributes so black tiger. Is the antagonised here. And any wasn't originally going dawn the mask and identity but some changes led to him being given the mantle and the storyline was directly derived from an anime video series. That ran from sixty eight to seventy one title tiger mask booker's license the work and created characters based on it. This is kind of fun. I is this something that happened a lot. The as far as you know that is where japanese wrestling. I'm and they pulled characters right out of anime fuck. They do in japan. Well i'm just saying like we've heard before that vincent man god damn i wanna mighty mouse this sort of the same type of deal who wanna mighty mouse and tiger mask if yet mighty mouse if you got mighty mouse. Do you need a tiger mask. Oh god it's going to be one of those days eddie. Becomes even more successful upon his return. He wins the ninety six best to the super junior tournament of junior heavyweights where he faced jewish and thunder lager in the finals. And by the way these super jakup deals became monster tape. Trading opportunities through the mid nineties are the most sought after tapes. He ultimately receives a shot at the i. w. gp junior heavyweight championship. The great sauce. Okay at the skydiving j but loses the match. He dean Benoit's who cold scorpio sean waldman. They're all tight with each other during the tom partying night in wrestling during the day. And these matches you know as i said become legendary amongst tape traders. Was anyone in the company paying attention to that. Look this has been something on. Howard finkel rain are or is this. Just fly under the radar. This may be something that howard might have watched. I really don't know it was during this time. Especially there was more of an emphasis on larger athletes. And the junior heavyweight. Wasn't something that we were really looking to expand in time so it was okay. Great young just kinda looked at as the japanese wrestler leaner. This was the aaa wrestling. And things like that. let's Let's also talk about this tour japan. He comes back to mexico. he's gonna mainly wrestle for aaa teaming wealth. He'll he'll del santo santo dishonorable and there's sort of the new version of the atomic pair. Which is a tag team. His father had been in eventually dhammika. After grow turns on santo he allies with art bar and They become the pair of terror and The duo become arguably the most hated tag team and lucia libra history along with bar conan chicano power and madonna's boyfriend era forms los gringos locos of villain stable here. I guess that's translated into the crazy. Americans guerrero said no matter how many people joined los gringos locos. The stable was all about art bar. Locos feuds mainly with He'll del santo and his his partner octagon eventually. They have a hair vs mask match at the first lucci pay per view in america when worlds collide is. Is this more on your radar. Maybe the super j cup stuff is not but this tag team pairing eddie guerrero and our bar boy. This was Something that people talked about for years to come off indefinitely. Tell you what. I remember about this because this was howard. Finkel bringing tapes an insane. You've got to see these guys. The emphasis that time was art bar and it was looking at are wondering if this was something that we might be interested in. I became enamored with eddie guerrero. Because i looked at him. And the things at any ca do the way that any walked in the way that eddie talked and carried himself any carried himself like shawn michaels and the description that i would always give vince. Mcmahon was that. I eddie guerrero. Will she stay mexican version of shawn michaels. As far as how carried himself in the ring how he worked and his performance was phenomenal. So both of them. I love darbar too. I thought team was great and individually. Both guys were tremendous was this. You know art doesn't wind up coming into w. e. He's going to have a little bit of trouble. He does wind up spending a little time in. Wcw but was was his personal stuff always going to be a hindrance or was it more the size that vincent man would have been hung up on in the era. I think that art could have gotten over. That i think are with the unique character and later on the whole beetle juice character. What have you. I think that are would have that would have been a non issue with art. As far as his performance he was ten feet tall and performance area so that size. Although it wasn't something that we would really gravitate to. It was something that i feel. The talent came through. And you can make something out of a measly eddie. Had been using. What later became known as the frogsplash at the time and He said he got the frogsplash from lafayette era spanish wrestler but his partner art barr started using the move without eddy's blessing and at this time eddie had some release us with art. Said they butted heads and he would stop himself just short of saying hated him but clearly there was some challenging moments in their relationship. But when it's all said and done you think. Eddie guerrero's frogsplash was the best. I mean besides rob van dam. Who else would even be in the conversation. Maybe well i think there's a few people think that de la brown actually have one hell of frogsplash but sentimentally i. I would go that. He guerrero because of the way that he did it. It just was it. Looked like eddie was not only trying to pin you in beat you with it. It was he was like a hold for. Eddie was a spot but it was like a home for eddie and you believed it when he got up top rope and came down on you the own ranch home. Sure you do a better can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or uranium insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Geiko dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its geico easy. Visit geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com guerrero in bars. Big break comes when they're noticed in late ninety four by the owner. Vw or at least the booker at the time paul heyman and they approached about wrestling for him in ninety five bar however winds up passing away before he could actually baked the shot with guerrero and eddie would say that arts death really affected him in a lot of ways including scaring him away from pills at least for a little while you know art bar was not necessarily a major name in the american wrestling scene but he was amongst the hardcore a well respected performer. When a guy like that who may be hat and quite a superstardom yet passes away. Does it still sent shockwaves through the industry. More like a ripple because he just wasn't on everyone's radar of course it does and for art his father sandy bar had been in the business of art also second generation and had spent the majority of his career in the pacific northwest working for donnellan head. Done some other things Really made a name for himself in mexico and people had taken notice so art was at a place that maybe things were going to change for our bar and that he would break out of whatever bubble that he had been in for all these years and people did know our bar they did. They did like his work. Because back then i think most people would make a job through the pacific northwest and nc sandy bar and art bar and he was the best best known unknown in the business so as we sat anyone's up joining up with the cw which works out really well for him. He wins the television championship from two cold scorpio in his debut match on april fifth. Nineteen ninety five at three way dance. It goes on to have a series of claim matches with dean malingco before they both get an opportunity to sign with world championship wrestling later. In the year he wound up losing the tv title to malingco on july twenty first that year but gets it back just a week later on the twenty eighth i and then ultimately drops it back to to cold on august twenty fifth and the next day they have their last match which is going to end in a draw in a two out of three falls match at ec w arena and after the match the entire locker room empties out and the two are carried around the ring by their feller. Fellow wrestlers in the crowd is chanting. Please don't go. This series of matches. Here with eddie guerrero dean malingco legendary for not just the performers. But he cw. And i've always been curious knowing working relationship. You're going to have just a few years after this. With paul heyman. C w why wasn't the wwf interested in dane. Malingco eddie guerrero was it. Wcw solely pursuing the cruiserweight division. And without that because that was not a priority in the wb f. They just weren't. They weren't really checking all the boxes. I think more than anything was their size. Yeah it just say they were not the biggest guys in the world so Help help change. Vince is thinking on that. And all i know we. We hate to talk. Talk in generalities. But we've often heard the old vince mcmahon tests from way back win was to the turn heads in an airport to they stand out and a lot of that is based on size and we had these big hulking monsters through the eighty s when hogan was looking for a monster factory of opponents. But bret hart was the champion at this time shawn. Michaels is going to be the very next year and they're not the biggest gas they're not they're not small men. I'm not suggesting that. But they're they're not six foot five bodybuilders. Is there a time where you could say. This guy changed his mind. I think sean i think sean brenner. Probably the two that were able to break through those barriers imaginary barriers. As they were that that they were able to kind of work through it and get noticed. let's let's keep it moving here. Eighties biggest break happens when he gets. This call from kevin sullivan is a chance to come to. Wcw sullivan has one promise. Any won't be jobbed out like a lot of the other smaller wrestlers but he only promises opportunity is first year. There is like a dream as was the case with. Cw he arrives alongside dean malingco wa. Tube is very best friends and they have a series of matches with. Wcw is first wcw matches actually on august thirtieth nineteen ninety-five. These tv. tapings were famously. Vader got in a fight with paul orndorff and eddie would be working within malingco that night. His tv debut fall brawl ninety five in a no contest with alex. Right on the september thirtieth edition of saturday night. They do a sit down interview with eddie talking about growing up in a wrestling family and footage you shown him and aaa but of course no mention of ec w here but this is kind of a big deal to bring in a talent and not only put him on tv and on pay per view quickly. But these little sit down interviews. This is kind of a cool opportunity for a new performance of the company it is. It was different presentation allowed their personality. And you come out a little bit and sometimes and sometimes not too because you found that maybe they didn't have the greatest personality and but yes. It was a unique way to introduce talent. Definitely eight is going to round out ninety five in matches against hillman and disco jerry. Land and big boban handful of other guys. One of his biggest matches happened on december. eighteenth he finally gets to work with ric flair. Gusta georgia Flare gets the wind but of course he cheated dammit ashford. Their classic moment happened at the january clash though on january twenty third nineteen ninety-six. This is the famous moment where brian pullman is trying to work. The entire industry and film and pins eighty zero with cross body and grabbing the tights for leverage. But around the two minute. Mark pullman grabbed at bobby heenan by the jacket. And heynen responded. With what the fuck are you doing. And that makes it out on the air I don't know it's sort of fun to think about nineteen ninety-six wcw and all these shenanigans. And i kind of forgot any was even involved with them ash because all anyone was talking about was filming and heynen not a good thing what are the weirdest finnish has happened in antis match at the uncensored ninety six show on march twenty fourth. The us wcw nited states champion and the mexican heavyweight champion. Conan daddy guerrero and eighteen twenty six after the challenger. Miss tom to leapfrog causing count in the head. But guerrero in the dick and after the match conan help grow to his feet and Eddie shoves conan away. It's a weird and confusing finish. But you know that probably happens more often than we than we think traditional athletics where someone gets No no shot at it happens. Yes it does. Yeah i mean you know you. You've had your no shots before everybody has but listen. We know what what he's gonna go onto accomplish in wcw but it feels like he's getting some real momentum. He's wrestling on nitro. He's wrestling on. Pay per view. Even has another pay per view match with ric flair at hog. Wild ninety six He starts working with dp for the battle boring. They have a whole feud about that. I clash of the champions and halloween havoc ninety six and eventually he finds himself in the united states title tournament. It's a significant moment for eddie guerrero but not for work good reasons. He doesn't like the way he wins. The us title from ddp the nwa. We're gonna hit their finishers. And then eddie hits his finished a secure the win any sort of thinks it hurts him as a baby face because will he's smaller and a minority or he in front of largely southern wrassling audiences. So it's going to be hard for him to be a baby face when you've got these cool heels. I don't know it just feels like they've really made it difficult for him but eventually Him become he'll and boy. That's probably when eddie really john's at least in my opinion in wcw but winning the us championship in wcw for a quote unquote smaller guy. That's a big deal. This is about that before him. Goslett vader and sting and steve austin and lex luger and ravishing rick rude and ric flair. Lots of folks had held this so to not be immediately lumped into your tag team wrestler. Or you're a cruiserweight wrestler and get the title shot pretty cool deal for any well spoke to eddie talent and being able to cross all those all those lines and have people get behind him. Any didn't work like well than take us back and he could work like a traditional Door but also knew how to adapt the loop store style into the american style of wrestling. And i dare say that. Eddie knew a lot more about american wrestling than he did. The lucia style wrestling But he was able to walk across the island and work both easily uncensored ninety seven. We would say dane. Malingco pin eddie guerrero to win the title in a no deke match With mention that there are some interference from the cruiserweight champion. Six here milenko is going to use six camcorder hit guerrero in the back of the head with it somewhere during the course of the match any is injured and he's out for like four and a half months so it's got to be a pretty tough deal. Hey you're here you're a spot you get a big title ride And then you hurt and you're on the shelf for four and a half months but in happen but since the batch with ddp where all of the interview interfered the fans started to boo eddie. A little more and more so when he comes back from injury he's a full blown he'll and this is really where our legendary eighty guerrero was born. The major moment happens on june ninth nineteen ninety-seven jarrett is wrestling us. Champ malingco and jared defeats go to win the title by submission after eight euro with his arm in a sling comes through the crowd and hits the frogsplash on the champion behind the referee's back and then he leaves sling in the ring showing. He's no longer injured. You saw eddie as both a baby face and heel. And i know that when he becomes world champion emma's baby face goes to a whole 'nother level but actually preferred eighty as a heel this. Wcw stuff he's about to do here man. This was off the charts goodstuff in any preferred being a he'll any was much more comfortable as a heel loved generating heat in eddie loved to play the he'll in front of the camera and outside of the ring. Any was a natural. He'll i think just kind of gravitated that much much more fall brawl ninety seven. We see eddie. Guerrero pinned the cruiserweight champion chris. Jericho with the frogsplash to win the title and then immediately. He's working against ray mysterious. It's a real personal rivalry and he's trying to unmask ramos stereo. They have unbelievable match at halloween. Havoc nineteen ninety-seven Guerrero is putting up his cruiserweight championship. Ray mysterious putting his match on his mask on the line and meltzer gave it four and three quarter stars. Still to this day criminally underrated. This is blow the dohrn. The damn doors off. Did you see this halloween havoc ninety seven match when it happened. Is this the era where you would still go over to house and watch pay per views or is that not really the case by ninety seven e. l. i. Shit i have no idea. I know i've seen the map. Probably seeing the match before but not enough to say okay. Hey i remember that specific match meltzer went out of his way to say this is the best. Wcw match and more than six years. Now you're making me think. Wasn't they get a match dude. I'm telling you there's a non wrestling fan in your life or if you want to celebrate the memory of eighty guerrero and introduce him to younger fan or someone who is. Maybe not even wrestling fan. I think you can show them this. Halloween havoc ninety seven mansion you. They're going to be an. They're going to be any girl fan and ramos stereo fan. We We should talk about him. Winning the title back on nitro from memphis On november tenth and that sets up another match again with With the to ray mysterious guerrero. Maybe not as spectacular as the halloween havoc match. But still great stuff. He's going to enjoy a a nice little run here Malingco with stark eight ninety seven the next night ultimo dragon. This is a talent rich roster here and it is able to impress every every time he comes through the curtain. When did when did he start to be on your radar. We know that jericho is going to come in and make a big splash and all of the radicals are are going to get over with wbf audiences when they come over in two thousand but when was addy like our events we gotta we gotta take a look at this guy man. I go all the way. Back to los gringos locus and partnership with art bar because they that was revolutionary at the time and eddie stood out all all that time when any went to wcw. Personally i was disappointed. Because i was kinda hoping that we you always looking for stars to fit in certain demographic in to me eddie guerrero. Was that mega star that fit for the hispanic market and it was also case of as always said if you if you pigeon hole someone. They will remain pigeonholed. I just thought. Eddie guerrero such a great talent that we were missing the boat and i i wanted him all the way back from gringos. Locos and eddie was Not available so. I'm not going very far. I'm in a rush to uncomfortable. Sometimes i just forget. Don't kid yourself. there's no such thing as a good excuse for not buckling up. If you've used any of these excuses or any others you're putting yourself at risk of injury or death in two thousand eighteen. Nearly ten thousand people were unbuckled when they were killed in crashes. That's forty three percent of people killed in motor vehicle. Crashes that were not wearing seatbelts. No matter what kind of vehicle you drive wearing your seatbelt is the best defense in a crash even when you sit in the backseat. You still need to buckle up. That goes for when you ride taxis or use ride. Sharing services to cops are on the lookout and riding ticket so why take the risk seatbelts. Save lives so do the smart thing and buckle up every trip day or night. click it or ticket. It's just interesting to me. You know when a guy goes out and any it's one thing to have a big rohan in mexico or in japan it's another to do it nasc- w but it's quite another to work on prime time television on t. and t.'s. It feels like at this point. He's a proven commodity But maybe not so much to eric bischoff because this is the era where he has a sit down with eric where he's asking for a push into raise. Apparently bischoff gets frustrated. And depending on how you because lord knows that Bischoff has the not. And i think even guerrero says the bischoff accidentally knocks the coffee over. It's not really throwing the coffee adam. But that became the story line on air they do sort of a worked shoot promo or he's going to ask for his release and then when he comes back he's gonna form the l. w. o. The latino world order this feels like you would have absolutely loved it. Did you actually own a latino world order t-shirt this feels like something you would have been all about. No but i'll translate that india smegnol for you know. Let's talk about the big moment that's coming. That's going to be well a very important over the course of eddie's life new year's day nineteen ninety. Nine eddie guerrero cheats death as he described he took. Ghb before leaving the house which was really popular in this era of wcw. He goes on a ride to the convenience store but blacks out on the drive. He's doing hundred and thirty miles an hour when he flips. And he's objected out of the top convertible. He was driving. His liver is bleeding. He's got a broken hip socket. He's going to suffer for many many years because of these injuries and He's anxious to get back in the ring but the doctors tell him it's going to be no less than eight months and maybe that would be very very aggressive. Of course eddie. Being eddie he makes it back and six months but he does say that this is ultimately what got him hooked on pills. He lost that fear of pills that he developed after art died assessing operate and in the late nineties. These opioids really became a thing. They're marketed as non habit forming something. Now we know to be untrue And there's been major class action lawsuits and it claimed a lot of close and famously lot in the professional wrestling industry. Bruce i know that as time goes on you and you're going to become very close and talk about some of his struggles with addiction. Is this really the catalyst for all of this. This horrendous car wreck that nearly took him. But i don't know if it was catalyst. But i also don't know if you remove this moment in time betty's life which was somewhat self destructive. How the rest of his career would have turned out so it's pivotal is far as what happened in the results after the fact because it pretty much did change his life forever and you know you always you always get sad when you you see this happen to someone in your your You are helpless for a while. Someone gets hooked on pills it comes back to wwi on may thirty first nineteen ninety nine episode of monday nitro. And he's a founding member of the filthy animals alongside ray mysterious junior and conan. They fuel with the insane clown posse and bam zero. And then they start a feud with the revolution at some fucked. He do wrong to have to go through that debacle. Well vince russo's here And eventually he gets replaced by kevin sullivan and eddie said he and the rest of his crew were really hopeful. When rousseau came in but when he's replaced with kevin sullivan all of their hope is lost. And they all want out. You should remember behind the scenes to provide some context. Eddie super tight within malingco crispin wall. And all those guys. And here's been wa has now famously. Situated himself with kevin sullivan's wife so in a way the boys Sort of formed their own opinion of what they're gonna do and not do they pulled together here and maybe it's not the scale they needed to but eddie guerrero chris. Benoit dean malingco. Perry saturn shane. Douglas they all go to bill bush to demand change and eddie says that bush felt threatened and didn't respond well and the radicals as they would come to be known one out. They had conversations with paulie. They are even considering going to japan but to their surprise they call the wwf and new york is interested. The problem of course is according to who. He believed shane. Douglas was on the outs with the company. So they're going to move forward without him. And i know that that would be hurtful to shane. Because they sorta k. Fehb him on that guerrero asked for and received a release from his contract on january nineteenth. And then he's going to sign with the wwf and fellow stars malingco been wa and saturn on joining. This is all in january of two thousand. We've done a whole episode on the radicals. So i'm going to encourage you to listen to that. In the archives but briefly take us through The overview of how this whole jump happened bruce. Well the guys were definitely not happy with wcw in in their mind. When rousseau came this is what they needed to have fresh start to be able to do something different nontraditional wrestling with russo at the helm. So it a moment of hope and then they quickly came into into a moment of dread when they realized what exactly they had their and or didn't have so. Wcw i guess made the change to to sullivan. And there were some personal heat with sullivan. Where these guys did not feel that they would be treated fairly moving forward so they. They asked for their release and they called me. It was actually a saturn. Ridgely called me and then talked ben wa and talk. Daddy talks to dean and got him up but The radicals episode we have in the archives explains it and lays out the entire story There's larry story with conan that we've gotten over since then and you know the the fact that the ford guys coming over only wanted to come as those four guys no matter what anybody says. Thanks or what have you. That is how it happened in what happened. How excited is vince. He's still trying to. I obviously the company has surpassed. Wcw here there will in the rear view but this has to feel like another way sort of put your foot on their necks. If you're vince mcmahon right now do. Wcw by this point was dead. Yeah we'll put your stepping on an aunt who cares now that not the mindset in any way shape or form. It was the addition of four brand new talents. Who were extremely talented at what they did. That's the excitement there. And having eddie and ben wa perry dean all at once inflection of new talent guys with history so The lucky break in one that we we definitely went for the group shows up on raw sitting ringside january thirty first two thousand and Very quickly they're booked. An in competition to try to win matches untypical typical w fashion. They go in three. Listen all bath radicals episode. I really take burst of ask one of the things i saw in my research. Based on your day meltzer's extensive fucking History in booking writing television so anyway no no. No you were trying to get these new guys over so you beat them all. I got it. That's how you get over. Get over put them in a story. I how do you get guys ramming matches ric flair win least sixteen of them. Okay over seventy five years. I'm just saying you know. Have to three quarters. He wasn't over because he didn't win matches. I'm not saying that at all. I mean if you are you're saying oh you guys over. You beat them. No i know that's the wwe way whenever you bring over whenever you bring in another talent from another promotion you want to beat them as fast as you can. Because that's how they get over and wwe with losses right sometimes. Yes that's what i'm saying. I mean i don't know why we're arguing here. I'm agreeing with you. Know you're you're you're you're saying no not listen. I'll just beat because i came from. Wcw now not why story behind it. What was the story. The story was they came in. They run dogs and refining from underneath and lost. Yeah and then. They overcame didn't they. I'm industrial trying to champions. Why we buried the fuck out of them. Goddamn him come in and make them world champion. That god damn you. Guys buried the fucking. You came in and lost three in a row. Boy you never gonna be able to do anything with them ever again that stupid. Are you coming your fucking mustache. The goal again. I figure i needed to talk for a while. So eighty says he tells the by the way we should mention that On his first night in here specifically told. Eddie guerrero do your frogsplash but severely dislocated elbow if you can so. He does exactly what you told them to. And then when he comes out of the ring injured beyond belief He's not going to be able to wrestle for three or four weeks but you ask them to come back to work personally and work and of course. You've disputed that. But that's what eddie wrote in his book. So i'll let you take it from there that i made it work hurt. Yes is this what you're saying yes okay. After returning from that injury eddie reveals a crush. She had on china and that leads to our april. Third two thousand wrestlemainia. He's doing everything in his power to prove that she could not resist his latino. Heat and eddie came up with this latino heat from the movie. Birdcage with robin williams Which references guatemalan nests. That's even a word in heat. Any says he just changes it till latino he and uses it in a promo egg gets a big reaction so the office decides to run with it. I'm fascinated by that. That latino heat wasn't from a writer's room it was just him saying. Hey what if. And it got over huge right latino heat. It wasn't a huge. Do you think this is when vince mcmahon really gets sold on eddie guerrero. You've told us before you know that you thought. Aj styles when he was in tna was a fine performer. He could do some spectacular stuff. And how could you not be entertained with his athleticism etc etc. But as silly as it was silly. Claire lynch pregnancy thing showed that hey ca do quote unquote acting. He could tell stories and that was probably something that is very important to vince. Mcmahon telling stories for wbz. Programming will this whole eighty guerrero china thing whereas some guys in the era looked at. Oh i got to work with china. I don't wanna work with china. For whatever reason. Eddie used it in a major advantage. The latino heat thing it's over audiences fall in love with him this to me. Feels like when vince realizes. Wait a minute. He's more than just a wrestler. This is a superstar your life your forwarded many opportunities many chances and you have to make decisions so you can be handed something that some people might feel is the death knell on your This is horrible and all this other shit and then there are people that take the exact same opportunity and look at it like okay. I'm gonna go out steal the show. I'm not gonna let him deny me. And they'll have to pay attention after my performance. And that's exactly what eddie in china did is they went out and said okay if this is being viewed in one way then. I'm going to show them that. I will steal the show every night and that is exactly what eddie guerrero did wasn't denied would not be denied and had people talking about him. You know in a performance. That wasn't the main attorney. 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Knees are your words into our to argue my point but in fact you just validated it. You pointed out that flair lost way more than he won an op. Jokingly said he won at least sixteen times and you again doubled down on my own argument. Yeah sixteen times and seventy five years. You don't have to go over to get over and this latino heat thing proved that all right. Let's just move along. Gosh we're talk about wins and losses all day on the april fourth episode of raw eighty captures the european championship from chris. Jericho after china turns on y two j and reveals that she could not in fact resist. Eddie guerrero's latino heat so the two polar opposite characters come together and make for very memorable moments. This is the time when i think. Wbz tv's probably at its peak as far as the creative storytelling involved. Yeah prior to the backstage or the backlash pay per view. Rather guerrero was studying to take his. Ged with the assistance of china all defending his european title and at the event he in china return from the prom just in time for eddie to wrestle essay. Rio in a major title bout real defeats rios after arriving ringside. A nineteen fifty. Seven chevrolet even wrestling in his tuxedo pants and a bow tie and after that guerrero who was getting baby face reactions is now officially face. It's pretty remarkable that this latino character got over as much as it did. What can you tell us about. You know how you guys sort of paid this off with him. In china and the way you started to introduce him driving cars to the ring. I think this is the first time we saw happen. Of course he's going to do it. months later as well It feels like you're sort of hitting your stride with your eddie guerrero character. Eddie couldn't be denied. The audience was loving everything that he did. You add to that. The natural charisma connection that china and eddie had and people were people were into it so it made sense and they couldn't get enough of it wasn't you know we in turn eddie guerrero in any way shape or form. The audience did yeah. Eighty successfully retains the title The radicals former stablemates both saturn and malingco in a triple threat at judgment day and he keeps it until fully loaded in july and he drops it to perry saturn but the onscreen relationship with china goes into the summer in the popularity continues to build but eventually china's upset when eddie pins to advance in the king of the ring tournament which is kinda good storytelling and then summer slammed that august guerrero in china wrestle a mixed tag match against trish stratus valvano. Who at the time was the intercontinental champion. The icy title here is on the line in the match and whoever scores the pin would become the champion uras team wins the match but china scored the pin so now china is a two time intercontinental champion. And of course. Eddie doesn't mind that has partners champion but fan suspect otherwise when he tries to protest too much the september fourth raw is war as when he goes to the commissioner mick foley and asked to be inserted into china's title defense against kurt angle claiming he didn't want to hurt his mama cena but a seat die during the course of the match angle knocks down china with the title belt and guerrero lays on top of her to try to reviver but of course this results in grill accidentally pending china as our shoulders are still on the map and now guerrero as won his first intercontinental championship. He spends weeks trying to get her to believe that he didn't intentionally take the title from her. This is just good stuff. What can you tell us about this story on. You know the idea that he has inserted himself into the match and now accidentally pincer and accidentally takes her title. This great stuff. He was just going down to check on her. Make sure she was. Okay and let her know that he loved her and kind of gave her a hug and just wanted to be affectionate. The dam and you know. The referee being an asshole referee when in counted the fall. And next thing you know shit issue was made well. And he got sick chip and we start to sorta plant the seeds here a little bit because eddie's going to start to cheat to retain his title and you see china's not upset. She's not happy with that. She's upset that he's cheating to retain it but one of the the really fun moments from this era is is upset. That china is posing for playboy magazine. He's even trying to invade the playboy mansion to stop the photo. Shoot a hilarious skit here. Is this something that you would have shot. It is yes. I did the playboy mansion stuff and then also when we were in chicago we did the playboy headquarters in chicago in went to their offices had any carried out there it was fucking it was just so easy and so good that People didn't want to end. It was entertaining as hell a jealous. Eddie guerrero the trying to live with the fact that the entire world was going to see his mama seat. That lack manche got an. What are your clothes and If it was just brilliant absolutely brilliant just when it appeared that china is gonna leave eddie. He proposes to her and she accepts an unforgiving china even helps him retain his title against kishi but ultimately their engagement is called off when g tv. I believe had some footage of eddie in the shower with to the godfather's hos one of which was victoria. And i think on the video you hear. Him claim that tu mama. Sita's are better than one so the engagement is broken off and manages needed to give them a back lodged. While i was watching my front that they were too low sense to me but there were two of them. I know once in the back ones doing the front okay expecting to wash himself to you so you know this. China thing was working. Is it time what what were you ready to do. More single stuff was she was. She'd done with the story line or creative. Just feel like okay. it's rain of course was kind of a combination of both. You want china to go on her own with playboy stuff and any in many respects was stealing the show there. Yeah so it's time to move on with eddie as well so it didn't need each other anymore. Grill has now turned heel result of the incident because i guess cheating on your fiance. That's a he'll move The radicals reform and feud with the. That's debatable. I think i mean my clean for yes that's true. He's trying to be considered right so the radicals reforming here. They're gonna feud with a reunited. Dx which is china. Billy gunn road dogg. And of course it could forget k. Quick They defeated the excess. Well well they actually defeated deacs access survivor series in an elimination tag match and assisted triple h in his batch with stone. Cold steve austin. Guerrero is later defeated by billy gut for the intercontinental title on the thanksgiving day. Episode of Spank down and at rebellion guerrero and milenko lose to gun and china and then been while leaves the group to focus more on a singles career. The rest of the radicals are gonna feud with later in the hardy boyz and an armageddon. The radicals defeat the hardy boys in an elimination tag match. But in early two thousand one guerrero starts to feud with chris jericho ben wa and ex. Pock all over jericho's icy championship at no way out. There's a fatal four way that jericho wins then. He focuses on the european title afterwards. Feuding with the champion test and actually defeating him at wrestlemania x seven to win his second european championship with a little help from his pals saturn and malingco so the first wrestlemainia frady guerrero. He loses to china in a six man. A second one. He's getting a win over test a much bigger man for the european championship. Things are looking up for mr guerrero. Yes i still can't get over. I mean it sounds like a nineteen fifty nine black and white movie in the day armageddon. The radicals defeated hardy. Boyz 'n lead in an elimination tag while wanted to do that. But just kinda felt good to me in april leader. Guerrero's gonna leave the radicals siding with hardy boyz and leader but guerrero had developed an addiction to pain. Medication stemming back to that ninety nine new year's day car accident in may of two thousand one. He sent to rehab to explain his absence. Storyline was created where guerrero was injured by albert in a match and on november ninth. Two thousand one. He's arrested for drunk driving and subsequently released by the company three days later. Lots unpack here. We should add some context. Wcw and e w both go out of business in early two thousand one so for him to get sent to rehab in may of two thousand one fresh off of mania title victory. This is not the best situation to be in professionally. What was your relationship like with him here in may of two thousand one when he sent him to rehab. You remember the conversation you know. Hey this is kind of where our con- our relationship just started to get closer and were eddie. Started opening up to people a little bit more because edi realize teen-aged help and that's the first step a lot of time when you stop blaming everyone else for any issues that you may have and you accept it and look at the look in the mirror realize that okay you know what it might have been me so i was trying to help any through a lot of this stuff and the best thing for edie at the time was probably to go away. Any needed to have ramifications. Eddie needed to lose something. I think to realize that. If he doesn't change his ways things will be bad. Well it didn't exactly work is arrested. November nine th two thousand one for drunk driving when you guys make the call to release him or you get. The news of the arrest was the reaction. Do you feel like man. He's into close to the sun here. We need to do something different. I probably felt a little betrayal. But just sadness and you want the guy to succeed. So bad and eddie could be his own worst enemy at times but the decision had to be made and he had to have ramifications. Had loose something in this case. It was unfortunately had to lose his job so that he could understand. You can't continue living your life the way you are well. It's got to be a punch to the gut is going to get sober after this For good i gets on a program. He gets help from his friends but most importantly he took responsibility. He works the indy circuit and eventually gets a shot. Come back april. Two thousand and two. So he's only gone for five or six months but in that five or six months made quite the impression across the indie scene There's a lot of guys who were on tv. Now who had a chance to work with eddie. During that era and the reports were he could not have been more professional more polite more respectful More willing to You had to be hearing reports like that. From his indy appearances right that this is not the same eti that we had last year without a doubt and i first of all we were helping them. Get some of those bookings and talking to promoters and talking to other people that were out there that saw him on a nightly basis and and working with them in everyone was giving glowing reviews and clear eyed and different eddie guerrero so we were hopeful. Well he He realizes this is his second chance. help me understand for none of this was a long time ago but when you cut him loose in november of two thousand one. Are there marching orders. Hey go get yourself cleaned. Get out there. On the indy circuit will help you where we can and once we've got a proven track record that you. Can you know get straightened. Stay straight will bring you back committed. He no i can come back. I've just got to do this for x. Number of days or x. number matches just prove that can be my best. Look you know it was put out there and told we wanted eddie to get healthy. We wanted to get healthy for eddie enforce family right so if he could prove. That adores never shut Or if door is shut. There's there's always a door handle the it can be opened again so you never say never in this business and the hope was that you would be able to rehab. We all swallow call rehab but be able to rehab. Everything about him is his mind body spirit and his family. So that was the goal. And i think that eddie really felt that he could cocker those demons and be able to come back and not mississippi. Help me understand. When when a guy like this gets cut does does he have a conversation with vents. Or does vince have a conversation when they come back or does it just go through human resources and folks like that and then if anything. Vince talks to him at the first. Tv it depends. It really depends on on the talent and it depends on the situation. I believe at this time that It was pretty much handle by jr. And eddie got the news and you know time to move on and hopefully we can do something with you down the line. It comes back on april first. Two thousand two. he's gonna attack. Rob van dam on raw here. He starts a feud with rob van dam and defeats him for a second intercontinental championship at backlash he'll retain the title against our vdi and insurrection. Judgment day but finally loses it back to rob van dam in a ladder match on may twenty seventh and most people remember this latter mass because a fan charged into the ring and shoves the latter over while eighties on it and of course this resulted in that idiotic fan getting punched and stomped by any but probably criminally charged as well. What are your member about this silly fan here. Trying to Involve himself in the match. And eddie guerrero. I'm giving him a little bit of the business not cool scary shit man in the The guys lucky that the only got out of there with a couple of bruises not smart and it was a different time in that. If someone came into the ring you have to understand is a performer especially when you're a heeled performer. That you don't know if a member of the audience comes jumping in the rain trying to attack you. You don't know if they have a knife or a gun. Or what the hell. Their skill level is or anything else. All you know. Is there someplace that they're not supposed to be in your world and you have to defend yourself so in our in our world today. I think that it is got to the point where you can't even defend yourself so Back then yeah it was. It was scary and we use. The guy is a is an example. Well people who were watching. 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Against eddie king of the ring because it feels like in this era for austin to be working eddie on how shows in the main event. It seems like okay. We're headed towards them. Doing something on tv together would have happened to king of the ring or something else might be. Well led to do stuff on tv. Lead-up up to we did the horrible Barham karaoke thing. Or steve sang and eddie was there to heckle and and that was a hell of an ordeal because of eddie's addictions and everything. He was uncomfortable being in the bar and have a beer on his table. And things like that. But let's look at a. You're you're a performer. Or you're not and he got over pretty quickly. I would have to say. I think we did it in nashville. I'd have to say it was Probably some of the worst tv that i ever did. Because i don't think steve was really into it. I don't think bence was early into it. And eddie was a little apprehensive. So it was an idea that steve had that that was only half thought out and it was a situation where vince really wanted to do it. Because steve really wanted to do it hindsight. I wouldn't have done. It is did not work. Well it it is interesting to think what it could have been had. They had a real long. Tv feud and pay per view payoffs and all of that But here's the deal Been want eddie are now a team. Been wise gonna return on the same night eddie. Lost the belt to rv d. And they stick with each other through the summer. Another big moment for eighty happens on july twenty second on raw from grand rapids. It's his first match against the rock and rock is the world champ at the time and he's gonna pin be at eight and a half minutes with a spinebuster and a people's elbow. It's a non title match. But had guerrero been victorious. He would've earned a title shot the following week but after the match rock has an altercation and he's to the races with brock listener Should mention there are. There is a an interesting moment where you see grow and been wa moved to the smackdown brand in early august. This is a big deal because guerrero is going to become a major player for smackdown. Do you think smackdown in hindsight was really eighties home. It was one hundred percent. And i think that will somewhere that eddie could flourish and not be having the pressure. You also thanked me. I mean smackdown. Had the potential to hammer home. Smackdown was broadcast at. It's time and shit. Yeah i think that whenever you look at who made certain brands and would brands made certain talent that smackdown any grow definitely go good together. He's immediately programmed in feud with edge. Ultimately edge would win the rivalry and then he's involved with a kurt angle in an angle. That's fun say and then any allied himself with his nephew chabot and they formed the tag team los guerreros in contrast to a priebus. Wcw storyline chabot fully agrees with his uncle about their their slogan. We lie we cheat steal. But at least we're honest about it And to push this new tag team. A series of vignettes are produced which include things as the to finagling their way into a rich lady's house and throwing a pool party and the segments really are shot in the arm for the audience. The popularity of these team on the other side of these vignettes hilarious. This feels like this is a vince idea. Is this. Brian is this. You are you there for the shoot. What can you tell us about these. I know i didn't do the shoot. As a matter of fact i think adam panucci mounted done the shoe But it was guys at the studio that did it and which has had this this idea of any. What does he do. He lies tsitsi steals right. And you think about it to get ahead in the world. Sometimes you have to lie and cheat and steal so the audience. You think that's going to be a heel character. You think the people are they lie. They cheat they steal well like most people can identify with that fell in love with them all over again because they did it with a smile on their face and a gleam in their eye that what they were doing was right in what they were doing as man. It's okay man. Everybody knows we live with g. Still we love you. It's okay it's great. Skits the pool inspectors who just wanna party the parking valets. Who just want to go on a joyride. The do enter the eight man tag team tournament for the tag titles. They're going snake. Pass for kishi and mark henry and the opening round and start a feud with the newly formed tag team of kurt angle crispin wa and one of the teams definitive moments. Chabot tells benoit that his former friend guerrero was assaulted by his tag team partner. Angle been while runs to make the save only have himself locked inside a room. Europe appears in the room and assaults benoi with a chair been one angle manage to overcome their differences and eventually defeat los guerreros tournament semifinals. And later of course been want angle would win the title and Been want angle for a trophy for being the first time tag team champions but much to their surprise los guerreros help him win the match on november seventh. Two thousand two. Wb world champion brock. Listener pins eddie. Guerrero in a non title match in six minutes and forty one seconds with the f. Five this is their first match together. Nobody could have probably predicted what this is going to look like a couple years later Yeah actually. I think they could have. Because i think it was the way that any worked with brock and the way that brock work with any they they knew how to work with and for each other so it was essentially the first time in looking at going. You know what this could work. Because brock was able to accentuate eddie's positives and vice versa survivor series. Los guerreros win the tag titles Guerrero makes mysterious submit to the lasso from el paso to win their first tag team championship. Or your lasso. Come from and they turn due to their popularity so they're big baby faces now they're ultimately going to drop the belts to t- bangle. Which is charlie haas. Shelton benjamin In early february on smackdown and they started feud together and both teams find themselves in a match at wrestlemania. Nineteen along with been one rhino. They're all vying to be number one contenders for that. Tag title ultimately They do not wind up victorious. A haas and benjamin wynn that triple threat they get a rematch. Backlash and los guerreros lose their again but along the way chabot tears his biceps and that forces guerrero to look for another partner he chooses to jiri and believe it or not they win the tag titles so this is guerrero. Second title win They went into judgment day team angle in a ladder match while the jiri. The right substitute for chabot. I think that he has entertainment value in that to jerry was able to express his emotion. Sue his facials in through his physical How he reacted to jerry man. Come on e. He was absolutely one of the best and they fit. It was like peas and carrots but during during this time there was a incident in san diego with the guerreros and haas. And benjamin good lord man. I went back in I'm sitting there thinking Shit they're all pissed off and i think that Charlie and ten were in the locker room and chabot and he went in. And i don't remember. I think it was tshuva. Going in and eddie in his back and but long and short of it i was that they came in to fight and everybody knew it in someone had told me and i headed off chavalit eddie at the past and there was a glass door into the locker. Room there And they just kinda into rounded me and got in and it wasn't wasn't wasn't really fide it was. I think everybody got in between them. In cooler. heads prevailed. But you talk about a scary fight for tough guys legit for shooters and For guys are definitely go. So i'm a extremely grateful. That cooler heads prevailed. I didn't get my ass. Kicked in the middle of them kicking each other's ass. Let's talk about jerry. And eddie they even work a tag match at madison square garden against roddy piper and his protege. At the time. Sean o'hare man if you're an old school wrestling fan. Which obviously eddie was. He had to be tickled to be working. Roddy piper madison square garden. Are you kidding me. Roddy and chabot whole ship Had a tremendous rivalry in los angeles. When eddie's dad gory was promoting los angeles so the guerreros and piper go way. Way back you know. I think viper very much like me was honorary grill and vice versa so a thrill and they knew each other well. There's lots of respect. Although sides that fence initially guerrero into jerry would lose the The titles to team angle. Who are now calling themselves. The world's greatest tag team that happens in early july on smackdown and then guerrero would turn onto jiri. Slamming him through the windshield of his low rider truck turning heel again and the following week a grill tries to explain his actions to the audience. Into everyone's surprise the audience doesn't care they're still with eighty zero. It's it's pretty remarkable. I don't think eddie could have been a. He'll here if he tried. The audience had fallen in love with him. Yeah eddie going to the to the audience and asking the audience for affirmation the chances like no. It's okay man. we love you. Whatever he did. They loved tournament. July vo three for the united states championship. He's gonna advanced the final round feeding ultimate dragon and billy gone along the way but in the finals it's down to him and bin wa and at vengeance he turns the cheating. Hits been wild with the belt. At one point in the match guerrero tries to get it wa in trouble by placing the title belt on top of the unconscious wa. Of course it doesn't work since knocked out the referee earlier with championship belt. So the bell shot to the kidneys and the match ends with interference gore from rhino benoit's partner who was furious at the team's failure and guerrero pins been wa in wins the us championship. He retains by bit defeating rhino at summer slam. Been wa is also in there along with the jiri. It's a fatal four way which seems kind of common in this era. We got a lot of talented performers. Not sure what to do with them. House just throw in a four-way turns face again at least officially and he starts a feud against john cena. So the united states champion anti guerrero defeats johnson on smackdown that week by the q. After the challenger hit a low blow all guerrero was attempting a series of rolling snap. Suplexes out cena bloodied the champion. It's him and chokes him with a steel chain before dropping guerrero with the f. You onto a steel wheel in the ring. It's pretty remarkable. When you think about this. John cena as a heel beating up an anti guerrero that the fans absolutely adore a few years later would say almost impossible but it happened here we are. Yeah exactly and. I think that i think it could have happened. Years later with roles reversed in the audience still would have been behind. Eddie it's it really is just such an interesting dynamic that you know saying is going to get over and become the face of the place literally But it's like the fans. Your point still would have cheered. Eddie and they had a pretty memorable latino heat. Parking lot brawl on smackdown that airs on september eleventh. When andy penn cena with the frogsplash off of a minivan onto cena he's on the hood of an adjacent car and in that match chabot makes his return and attack. Cena any memories of that production. you know whenever you're working with cars it feels like the risk is really leveled up yet but it was a lot of fun man. We did it in the parking lot and had everything a all around then the were starting to shoot the thing and realize man we. We don't have the lighting's not carrying over into where we need to be. We put on the lights headlights of the cars to just kind of add more light in the middle of the thing and ambiance but any in in john beat the living shit out of each other made. That thing to me is probably one of the best Parking lot bras we've ever had let's Let's talk about what we're doing next though because it's sort of weird that we see the singles roy doing so well with chabot injured. You know he's had a title win. He's feuding with john cena but now the chavez back we're making a metag team again los career were over and they're actually gonna pick up the tag team championship again from the world's greatest tag team and guerrero's a double champion in the process. Now he's got the us title but he's also got The tag title. This is his third tag team title. Run when he's in the middle of this hot singles ruin. Is he hesitant at all to team with travaux or cause. It's family and it was working. Let me try to do both do both because out of love. He wanted to work with his nephew and it was working. It was something that was fun and it was also something that the audience was was craving. So you get double the guerreros and everything can say the same. You can still keep eddie in the singles picture and put tshuva in there and it was great for chows. Well i think at elevated chabot tremendously and it was something that If you were to ask me the audience was kinda clamoring for. They liked the los guerreros. Let's talk about the The feud with big show. This is fairly memorable. Because i can't believe this is real. You say barely or fairly fairly Well it's a situation october tenth. Two thousand three on smackdown. They have fed big show. Some laxative laced burritos and after big show defeats tshuva in the main of hit by count. Now and he comes to the ring with a sewage truck from duty truck and dot com and though he failed to hit big show in the ring boy he hit hit the target on the entrance ramp and It's probably one of the more memorable shall we say comedic segments in. Wwe history if a truck were shooting. Shit i assume it's working. She had a hope. It's not shoot. She was this she shit in their louis. Shoot shit in there. They will she shit in the shoot. Shitter shit trump. Why would you wanna shoot shit shoot chip at big show. Well here's a thin now. I'm not going to point fingers at anyone or anything like that. But the the people that got the sheet shit trump gotta shoot shit truck instead of getting a truck like a brand new truck. They took it literally and we got an actual duty truck. They gotta honey dipper. You know how dipper is. I'm googling it hunting dipper is shoot. Shit trump really the one that goes and they they tie up to the end of the sewer system and your On backyard your septic and they suck the shit out of the thing honey wagon and what some folks call honey dipper. Call him shit suckers so anyway they went and got an actual honey dipper. They actually got one that had been in service in the they're like well we'll just clean it out there so they spent all thank cleaning this motherfucker out not realizing how difficult it is. Shit was everywhere to everywhere. And they're cleaning out you know you're still gonna have little particles. Remnants everywhere nuggets count like chitlins chitlins. Look folks. I don't give shit how how clean you. Think your chitlins cleaned. There's still to be little pockets of doodoo in there so chitlins basically shetlands and this was the shoot ray-ban on vic show has to be no. This is this became. Shoot rib on me. Why did you have to clean the house rib on the well while they were cleaning the shit The worried about something else in one of the shit cleaning hoses came out with scalding water. Came flying out of the truck and just split my head wide open and yeah it was wonderful but so the the ship truck cut your forehead. Yeah the hose that was cleaning. The shit. Trump came loose with scalding hot water. In like bam bam ozanam across the head house. Little pissed off. It sounds like you were shared upon shit on me but because he was clean hose. It was cleaner hose. But fucking fucked my head up saturday now you get to the to shit part and so the clean all the shitty shit out of shit trump right and then you put clean shit. Shit shit trump right so it was like mud and just all kinds of saying and then various Sorted food particles and things like that then like well. Scott smell like pooh-pooh support a couple of smell additives into it. Now you have the illusion of sticky pooh-pooh which i remember thinking you know if i'm in the front row right but his completely nontoxic it's one hundred percent safe it's just it. Looks like it in his smell like it now. I said that's my point. Looks like shit. Smells like shit must be chit care. You're not gonna convince me otherwise that the shit brown shit smells like shit shit. Help me understand though this events idea. We know that he likes tola. Is goddamn powell. One of we shot him with it. It may be a good close personal dear friend. Brian words zygi as out to brian in australia. Right now But now it might have been my idea. Because we we were trying to relive the Gear truck in the milk truck and all that shit to somebody said what does shit truck so great get big show and i started thinking you know. Hey yeah forgot like all. Those honey dippers did that way but yeah kaas funny. How big show take this news that you're gonna shoot him when she initially not too happy. He warmed up to the ship. Though once again shinto policy was warm but he came around on you shitting on him. Yeah i just feel. I can't imagine being creative and having sit down and tell a giant all right. So here's what we're gonna do. Big boy jansa friendly adds scale of one to ten. How much advance enjoy the segment. Fourteen aso thought man. Christmas is going to be here before you know it. And unfortunately that's going to be extra stressed this year with lots bad expenses. 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For free at save with conrad dot com four days later whilst guerreros lose the tag titles to the basham brothers start a feud with them and they failed to regain the titles at survivor series and that develops a little bit of animosity. The relationship starts to go downhill eventually chabot attacks and turns on any after. He suffers a beating at the hands of the basham brothers. So now we've got a bit of a feud that's gonna involve Well genius is going to be joined by his father aka eighties brother chavez senior who we're gonna learn the call tshuva classic which is just great stuff. What can you tell us about. Chavis senior and their feud of course eight against the win at royal rumble. I guess to settle the feud but tshuva classic. This is a good staff. Well it was in a classic is really the first guerrero i ever knew. Then then hector and then mondo then added So my brother were very tight. I was iran with travel classic for many years I remember pitching eddie insane. Man what's your brother dylan man. He's a great shape. He's working mexico. He's working Japan is a key. So working is like yeah. He's still associated was in san antonio and throughout this crazy idea in chabot classic did not did not leave the first time he was in. Ww on the best terms and it was an opportunity for him to make amends as well. So enter chopper classic. He was fucking great because it was it was the real life Father son dynamic with chubby though and it was the real life. Big brother With eddie and then you also saw that dynamic of the roles reversed were now. Eddie's the megastar can overshadowing traveled classic. So it was very interesting times but they are. Probably some of the most Fun times that that. I ever had as far as working with these guys because i loved all three of them and they're just a blast what he told me about. You know i like the whole whilst guerrero story but they only have one match on pay per view like it feels like to me. You could really stretched out this chabot anything right. Yeah but i think we did. I mean we did. It was a long time on television and with java classic. And all that shit intertwined into everything. Chris benoit's jumps to the raw brand after we win the royal rumble match. He's going to use his title. Shot to go for. Triple h is world heavyweight championship. And then eddie wins a fifteen man royal rumble match on january twenty ninth on smackdown to earn a shot at the wwe championship. So after becoming number one contender. Eddie elevates himself to main event status and stars feuding with the wb champ brock. leser famously. No way out. We did a whole episode on this show. It's tremendous and i can't recommend it enough. In our archives over something to wrestle dot com any pins the world champion brock listener to win the title in thirty minutes and five seconds the frogsplash after reversing an attempt at the f. five into a tornado d. On the title belt later in the match we should mention listener was trying to use the title belt as a weapon. While the ref was knocked out but bill goldberg it was arrested earlier in the same show. Came out and hit the spear on the champ after the match guerrero celebrating in the crowd is congratulated by his mother and brother The victory makes him a triple crown and grand slam champion in the process. It's episode one forty two. You want to go out of your way to check it out but man you described this moment as being a top one or two for wrestling when eddie won his first world title. You're not even talking about from a office perspective. This is the fan. Bruce prichard right. Yeah because it was the the absolute premier underdog victory defeating the big bad monster and brock listener. And you know. Eddie guerrero coming everything. In addition to that you'd look at the human being of eddie guerrero and what eddie had accomplished in his career and in his life the struggles any had throughout everything to now be the man not only but to be able to perform at the level. That eddie was able to perform and and kill it every night. So i was proud of him loved him to death and just so happy for him. Let's let's recommend everybody strongly. Go back and check that out when the first when the the subject i comes up you know i do want to briefly touch on. This win is the decision made or what goes into the decision to put the belt on eighty. It does vince. No hey brock's leaving. We got to use this to make somebody else. Eddie has excelled in every segment. We've put him in whether it was china or can underneath working with tag stuff the stuff with sina. He's been a show stealer chabot on on Why's eighty the logical choice. It is the decision made in hindsight does any benefit the most from brock listener leaving. I think that he did and it was from a place of looking at. Who's going to be the next. The next guy who who are we going to focus on to take us to another level. Hopefully at this point and kurt was discuss. You know all these different things but we had never had a champion. Like eddie guerrero and eddie was over. Eddie was He was prime for the picking. And eddie was when you look at the roster probably the least probable to be the champion but also the only real logical choice you would choose to be the champion so he had it all and i think a lot of people felt that it was a bad decision felt he was too small and the fact that he was mexican and all these things were as like i. You know he's a little guy and he. I don't know there. There was just opposition. But in the end i remember thinking man. If he's the guy he was just the guy that time and i think he needed that title all of a sudden eddie. Guerrero is our ww champion and believe it or not. Has i titled offense is going to be a big one wrestlemania twenty and madison square garden against kurt angle It marked the start of next feud of course The magic erta. Kurt angle and eddie guerrero had is just really remarkable It really is a fantastic match. And the storytelling with the boot slipping off at the end. I mean it's gotta be near the top of i mean eddie. Certainly it's his biggest wrestlemainia moment. Go back and watch the match if you have already. It's pretty remarkable. You know any once again. He's famous in this era for fooling people right and so he's going to start to frantically take off his boot right after an ankle lock escape. An angle sees this as his opportunity. Oh he must be really hurting that ankle. Let me go finish him. Off goes to twist it boom slips out inside cradle pretty remarkable and then of course at the end of the show we get the spectacle that so many people remember about wrestlemania twenty crispin wa and eddie guerrero embracing both as world champions who were told they were never ever going to be at this spot and now here. They are in madison square garden. The biggest show ever wrestlemania twenty. This is peak. Eddie ryan because they were owen three coming in man at the been that we all know that this was part of your evil plan when i asked him to go dislocate his arm on his first night in and then forced him to work hurt. You knew that if he could persevere and you could fire him and then hiring back. China beat him wrestlemainia. Eventually once he got over the rest of his family he could win. The world title wants brock listener. Quit and he would. Main event wrestlemania twenty. And that was your plan all along. Yeah but is people out on the west coast and your dirt shoot. People would like to say. I think i will steal a line from your good friend. Jim heard who summed it up that they just dream shit in lie the way. You're mentioning my good friend. Jim heard because you saw the interview that we did chose dot com. What did you think. I thought it was tremendous and i think that for anybody that they should Listen to it and you know again my take away as said use funny when you talk to people who were actually there in the business decisions and not just hearsay and rumor innuendo and bullshit. It's pretty much the same things that come out As far as how business was done and what was conducted not always how was reported because The reporters scott. I don't even think i can calm. The dreamers and liars is jim heard put it that just shut up dream it and convinced himself that the lie is what it is so i. I thoroughly enjoyed the. Jim heard Ad free shows that was fucking excellent. Thank you sir. Let's talk about the march twenty second edition raw. There's a draft lottery held because of that you've got stars from both shows. It's of cool. At the time i triple. H is in full blown reign of terror mode. He just dropped. The belts have been wa so everybody thinks that Eddie guerrero when he has a match with triple h. That triple h is going to win. But in fact eighty wins by the queue and then a big brawl erupts between those brands. In march eighty starts a feud with fellow texan about the name of john bradshaw layfield. Jbl has interrupted grills title match with booker t and the rivalry turns personal when at a famous non televised live event on may second in el paso. Jbl causes eighties mother. To suffer a fehb heart attack while in attendance at ringside but s. Mom looks like she's having a heart attack because well she nearly was. And we've told the story before in our cops but it's worth telling again. Now here bruce well. We went down del paso on mother's day With guerrero's from eddie. And i had chico's tacos that day. And if you ever know paso checkout chico's tacos edgy say that the whole thing was that he gives his mom recognize that he's mom with a beautiful mother's day bouquet. Then the next thing that you know is Bradshaw's air spoil. It and john ends up. The mother like went to hit john or something. Like that and john touched her but just like literally touched her arm and she was to appear as though she were having a heart attack and lo and behold She got so excited in the moment that she pretty much at symptoms of heart attack and her real life. Dr was there. Because we're gonna use him as the doctor in in this whole thing I thought eddie was gonna kill me but Yeah it was Eddie in in the back just loves his mom so much in in he was so protective of her but then chaba classic was there. Chevy tahoe travel glasses. 'cause like i am an we should we should get some on mom and you know like let john put bruce tour man doing numerous touching my mother so now and she said she thought vansh got this so chabot senior. And you're going at it. It was a wonderful evening but we got bradshaw. Their soon as angle was done because there was a pretty upset crowd and john got out of there with the help of the texas state troopers highway patrol got him out of town. Go do not pasco. Do not collect two hundred dollars. Just go in your wrestling gear the fuck outta town judgment day. Which we've covered before in the archives is such a monumental show guerrero defense is wb title against jbl retaining the title after getting himself disqualified. But that's not the story. The matt saw guerrero bleed so much. I mean it looks like i mean it. Looks like he hit a fucking artery and after the match concludes he goes backstage and supposedly passed out. Goes into shock. We've talked about this before. But it's worth touching on again this this went from. Hey this was an incredible match. And what a story to ono. We've got a real life medical event here. Yes kind of scary man. came back in. I remember the trail of blood. Just all the way back to the trainers ruminating was getting checked out by the doctor. And they're like you've lost a lot of blood we need to get you in and get staples or stitches or something. But we've got to get you to the hospital. And i think with the amount of blood that eddie had lost he was kind of giving in on it and the doctor started to prepare him to get in the ambulance. And go to the hospital with iv's and different things and eddie jus- out of out of at some point realizes that he's got all these iv second him and freaks out in the trainer's room rips out the iv's and pushes everybody away in storms out and standing there for a minute and it just the only people that went to go confront. Eddie was Myself and michael hayes and this is a sick busy sometimes and what you find humor in but as michael. I r- Going down to talk to eddie. And eddie's down the way and i'm trailing behind michael hayes just start to laugh and he turns his what he laughing at. I said well first of all look at this trail of blood. You and i are following in in a free bird and brother love or now trying to chase standing out to get him to go back gives institure of go to the hospital and it just was funny in the moment And i'm running back and forth. I remember that Xbox was there talking to hunter and it was one of the first time they had been together and many years and Like xbox acts asked hundreds is what's going on there man. It goes a brisa michael running back and forth and he goes. I don't know most important though. Gazette knocking ronin. Well at least they're moving faster than the normal But that's where. I went and talked eddie in any was afraid to go to the hospital and i think part of this fear was that they would give him medication and he didn't wanna take the medication. He didn't wanna be in a position to be dependent again. Didn't walk again anything. He may like that he would want to be dependent on again but like a like a small child he looked at me and he said will you go to the hospital with me and of course i will eddie but a needs to go down. Let them do their job. I 'cause you'll get in to get taken care of a lot quicker if you go in the ambulance okay. And he was just like a little kid so or trying to get him cleaned up and get him to get him back and then and he says goes. Hey bruce fan really sorry. Would you mind chevy tow went with me instead. Asadollah you want. I'll make it happen and so We had chabot go with him in the ambulance. And i took olivetti stuff and back to our hotel. Got eddie an adjacent room with me but shit up in his room and then ordered him food so that when he came home and Kept the door open. Just make sure. But i stay up till four o'clock. Whatever was waiting freddie back which avocado and and basically put him to bed. Make sure he called vicky and let her know that he was okay so it was Yeah l. knight it's It's a big deal and The real life event impacted the following episode of smackdown teaming alongside ray stereo and rob van dam against the trio's the dudley's. Jbl guerrero passed out mid match. Unlike at the pay per view this was part of the story in some fans complained online that it was in poor. Taste your response funky at the great american bash. Eddie defended the title against jbl in texas bull rope match. Jbl wins after angle reverses. The decision should mention angle. As the general manager of smackdown at the time after guerrero appeared to have retained the title Rumor and innuendo was guerrero fell. He was shouldering. The burden of low. Pay per view buys on smackdown events at the time and asked vince to have the title taken off of him. Do you remember this. That eddie may felt the pressure that for whatever reason the buys weren't there for the pay per views and he took it personally and couldn't really deal with the pressure and because he was in recovery. Maybe that's not a great spot for somebody like that to be. I think that he was feeling the pressure but also at the same time we were looking to get a new character. Jbl over it was. It was a perfect storm. In that regard in eddie felt the john needed the championship much more than he did and also took it as a challenge to get him over but business wasn't terrible that time so one low. That's one of those hindsight twenty twenty people speculate and and say these things being there. This was a born out of a really. Wanna get life feel over. How how do we do it. No one would call that. Nobody was going to call. That layfield would be daddy. And he's like yeah he should he needs it more than i do we We know what's coming next for him. You know i i guess. We should mention that. They've got some so some fun stuff. Along the way including skits with jbl on smackdown jbl is going to wrestle. Grandlieu door to a no contest after l. grand slid under neath the ring. A second luder comes out and obviously masked eddie guerrero Bradshaw was knocked out of the ring and after the match l. grand that's a promo bradshaw Defending the title against eighty the following week in a in a steel cage is the new thing. And in this match july fifteenth and hits frogsplash off the top of the cage but again and ludar appears and this time cost guerrero the match. Any later reveals himself as kurt angle. So now guerrero has a feud with kurt angle. This was good stuff it first of all you get the great visual of of him coming off the cage. But then he's programmed with angle again and they've going round and round for ever including wrestlemainia. Then we're natural and the fact that there was a little bit of a rivalry there real life to help their matches in their believability but they matched up size. Why matched up intensity wise and never disappointed at summer slammed guerrero loses to angles submitting to the ankle. Lock and they're even going to have Some fall out there that leads to a new feud because angle has allied himself with luther reigns and mark jindrag and he starts targeting eddie guerrero and big show so guerrero defeats. Luther reigns in a singles match at no mercy which is probably a highlight for any. I'm sure luther reigns at no mercy's on his best of tape and around the same time as when you've talked about it before. And he has this backstage. Fight with kurt angle. I think a lumberjack match happened in eddie. In retrospect may have been having heart problems according to kurt but eighties body just couldn't perform the right way and the next week and other situation happened where luther reigns and mark. Jean drac who with kurt angle. At the time stiff daddy and afterwards in the back eddie comments on ankle and crew taking advantage of him angle shoves him twice while going off on him for having badmashes he goes for a take down. Of course. that's not wise eddie Up in a front face. Lock kurt angle and starts to choke him out before big show steps in and stops it. Did you see this or you told us the story before. But i don't recall if you're in the hall or just heard about it. After the fact no i heard about it after the fact and it was bradshaw. Both asking the same questions like any. What were you thinking. Trying to a sheet leg on olympic gold medalist. I don't know man just stupid. Any you know realizing what one of the brightest moves and cat of embarrassed just in and of himself but he was frustrated. He was very very frustrated during this time and love temper and shit happens a survivor series. Elimination match is going to go. Down led by guerrero on one side angle on the other. Eddie's team is big. Show john cena and rob van dam originally. It was very mysterious instead of john. Cena on the other side. It's angle's team and Yeah let's talk about armageddon. We got booker t and the undertaker. Jbl for wwe's championship. It's a fatal four way where eighty girls also involved the match ends with. Jbl pinning booker following the clothesline from hell and in the weeks. That followed guerrero and booker. Briefly and unsuccessfully tried to win the tag team title in this era. Does you just think man we can throw eddie in with anybody in it'll work. He said such a wide group attack partner but seemingly time yes it did. And that's why i think i think that eddie was able to be a chameleon and adapt to any and everything one of the more interesting moments from the following royal rumble was. There's a skit with Ric flair drawing numbers and guerrero switches. His number with flares and even steals flares wallet in the process Of course eventually teddy long makes him return both items before the match but it's kind fun because flair had drawn the number thirty and eddie had drawn the number one. So we're gonna lie cheat and steal. That's pretty good stuff. And he did last twenty eight minutes and eleven seconds before being eliminated by edge but that little skit is right on character for eddie guerrero. Here's inflator. well you think about it. You get the lives of any end. The confidence bombastic Flare so i thought it was perfect at no way out the next month eddie guerrero would team up with his longtime friend and sometimes rival ramos cheerio in defeat the basham brothers to win. What would actually be eighties. Last title in the company Wwe tag team championship. It's there's four time. Champion is raised third time as tag champion and many expect the new champions to defend their title at wrestlemania twenty one but after encouragement from chabot guerrero challenges mysterious to a one on one match instead so they could bring the house down and the to wrestle at wrestlemania and Mistero gets the win. Although visibly frustrated guerrero congratulates his partner. And this is all part of a long-term store here with eddie and ray. Did you already have the end in mind when you built towards wrestlemainia or did that just happen along the way kind of happened along the way it is as you get into the next thing was the family being involved and and that next level but at this point it was a get three out of this. The wrestlemainia goes to hollywood event. That year saw a bunch of spoofs of blockbuster movies and one of them was pulp fiction where we had eddie. Guerrero and booker. t. Playing the roles of john travolta and samuel jackson characters. Were you involved in any of those shoots you guys. Use an outside production staff for that. No those are all our our people. I didn't do those but that was like chris. Chambers those guys putting all that together after a bunch of mishaps in the following weeks after wrestlemainia. There's tension really growing between eighty and ramos. Zero finally erupts once they lose the tag belt. On april twenty first episode of smackdown eminem in guerrero abandons mysterious who had considered his family earlier in the show and cost them the match. At the end of the may fifth episode of smackdown. He saves mysterious from an attack by a attacked by chabot and eminem before attacking mistero himself. Leaving him bruised and bloody suplex him into a set of steel steps and turning heel in the process so now guerrero is adopting a new more rooting look and menacing approach towards wrestling gone. Is this dancing and lovable. Latino heat style character. He's also going to stop driving the low riders down to the ring. He really is trying to reinvent himself. This is his really last attempt to being. He'll i guess because every time you've tried it it just didn't work so i guess you knew here if you're going to do it you've got to change everything and he really tries right. Well you change everything and it also helps when your opponent is as loveable is ramos stereo. That's cornet that was easy to there was a very strong Opponent that the audience loved and raise so for eddie to be petty with ray. It helped tremendously a judgment day. Any would lose to mysterious by the hugh after hitting mysterious with a chair. And on the june thirtieth episode of smackdown threatens to reveal a secret about mysterious and his son dominic the storyline grew to involve the families of both men with both sides. Pleading figaro please don't reveal the secret and eventually mysterious defeats guerrero at great american bash. And it's a match with the stipulation that if guerrero loses he would not tell the secret but of course eddie being a he'll told the secret anyway on the very next episode of smackdown telling dominic and the audience that guerrero was his father. Or more. specifically. I'm your poppy. How do they feel about this angle. Well man it was a. It was time he's autobiography. Had come out and eddie talked about. There was a period where he and vicky were separated. And that eddie had a child out of wedlock and he didn't give any details on that relationship or that child so you go back and you look at a time line in hewett. Since there wasn't a specific specific time line in there we created our own and said what if that child the daddy spoke of in his book was dominant. What if that relationship than any had for very brief time was ray mysterious wife and what if and he just went ahead and let because again. Eddie didn't talk about The child that much in the book other than it was aaron and people would ask questions. What if ray was raising that child as his own and that they wanted to keep that secret and that Everyone was forgiven and solar so forth. But but now after ray trying to embarrass any by being that eddie felt it was right time to bring it out. Yeah this The story i guess is After he had this marriage out of wedlock when his marriage was on the rocks so to speak he claimed to allow ray and his wife who were having trouble conceiving to adopt the child as their own. And wouldn't you know it. We got custody of dominick ladder match now summer slam. And yes this is the way dominicana bowl. Goodness absolutely positively. I defy you jumping different. One of the greatest stories ever told. Well it's still paying dividends today on current programming by the way. Go out of your way to watch that summer slam or listen to that summerslam episode. We did a whole episode on it. there's some fun moments in the match. I guess we should mention that Eighty finishes up the program with mysterious and he's declared dominic poppy and then Eddie wins the cage match the debut of friday night smackdown and he's got a new version of its theme song that night to titled cracking or gangsta. Lean basically the same song but without the laci and steel lyrics. They've been replaced by rap lyrics. We're trying to Really overhaul his presentation the following week. Teddy long palmer. Canon who were the network executives announced a new number one contender for batista's world championship and teddy long acts like he's about to announce very mysterious but palmer steals the mike and announces and he does a promo about how he's got a pass them he had addictions but he's found the new addiction honor respect and doing the right thing. And he's a new eddie guerrero and he wants to prove at no mercy that he and batista can have a mansion. Not hate each other. Eddie's he's facials here are phenomenal. Of course the fans don't believe him. This was great stuff was a not because eddie and police were friends and it was the feeling and the execution was believe eddie lord. The audience ends so much that they thought you know. What may maybe they met. Maybe he's gonna do at this time. Maybe any has turnover over new leaf. Because because we love our eddie guerrero and then when you get to know mercy by the time we got there. The audience was really unsure whether they had a baby face. Eddie guerrero or a. He'll eddie guerrero I remember sitting in the crowd. When the ring announcers who did championship ring announcements. And i'm just sitting right literally in the middle. The heart camera section people all around me. They announced this match the world heavyweight championship and while guys behind missing goes way. May you mean to tell me that that little guy. There was the heavyweight champion in the guy. The guy his friend city with a man that little guy. If this were real would kill that big guy and beat his fucking ass. That's how much people believed in eddie guerrero. They if you knew him and his personality in you were invested in the character. He was twenty feet tall. Four hundred bounds. Well no mercy two thousand five. We know eighties going to face batista. You've got some storytelling on the way there. One of which is pretty ridiculous Eh suppose the team with batista against him. But he's faking sick. At least that's the implication batista brings in dr. Make sure that his pal eighty is okay and the doctor gives him a rectal probe without lubricant so ladder match when eddie is proven to be well and he can work Any hits a frogsplash but then sales fainter as he celebrating with a very confused batista boy. This has vince. mcmahon humor all over it. What if he got shoved up his asked with no lube. What happens. there's some fun stuff along the way. And he's trying to convince everyone he's not this bad person and he's doing the old switcheroo with chairs and batista can't trust him but he's even wearing a batista t shirt. We finally get to no mercy. It's a really good mass because eighteen minutes and forty seconds ultimately batista wins with that spinebuster. Meltzer liked it gave it three and a quarter stars and the to shake hands but as they go off the air. You still get. The the look at eddie's is that he might turn. We just did a whole episode on this. Check it out. No mercy two thousand five iressa his last match on november eleventh a he defeats mr kennedy by disqualification using his signature. Lie cheat and steal tactics which allowed him to advance to the smackdown survivors team and according to the rumor and innuendo on the date of his death a triple threat match between himself. Batista and randy orton was supposed to take place for the world heavyweight championship where batista would have dropped the title to any guerrero Because batista needed to take some time off for an injured back. And i think that was denied by batista in his book. What do you remember Had he not passed away with what eddie had another title. Run here. well he wouldn't have had it that night. Now that's that's a false said so well it's unfortunate but Any is found unconscious in his hotel room at the marriott hotel city center in minneapolis minnesota by nephew chabot on november thirteenth. Two thousand five in a twenty twenty interview for documentary chabot explained that eddie passed out in the hotel bathroom with a toothbrush in his hand and he was barely clinging to life when chabot discovered him. Eddie was pronounced dead upon arrival by the paramount. A pair by the paramedics at the scene. He's only thirty eight years old and not topsy would later reveal that eighties. Cause of death is blamed on a result of acute heart failure due due to underlying cardiovascular. Disease is At the greenacres memorial park cemetery in scottsdale arizona is funeral. Service was officiated officiated by superstar. Billy graham and This was This was a tough one for you personally because you were talking. Eighty like every day in this era. And i know you've told us the story before on the radicals but this head hits you like a ton of bricks when you find out you've lost one of your best friends. I don't know where it did in all the I i was at the building and of the techs ali attack from pre tapes. Came up to me. And i just got into the building sat down and catering's meeting Niece's hey bruisers terrible rumor. Going around that i think you should should nip in the bud and and at least find out what was going on. We'll say as well the goes people are saying that Eddie was found dead. Nece tell room any who grow while fucking fix that right. Now grab my phone. I called eddie. Didn't answer the phone. And i left a message turned broth and say i said yeah. It's just called him Shore he's probably in the shower right now or something like that but And is i'm saying that the phone rang back and it was eddie. Guerrero and on the other The other side was chapel. Chevy tahoe chabot junior and chabot said Hey bruce cheviot. He's gone bro. And i just start drying asked what happened. Nobody knew at that point and But that's that's what happened. Just absolutely sucked and who invents staff ball and everybody got got to the building we met thence office vincent asked shabo what what he wanted to do and johnson eddie would won't show to go on and I think in in in lots of the loss that we've had unfortunately the the eddie loss hit me really hard we had just been. I don't know not long before that we'd been bradshaw's wedding and Spent a week together down in the keys. And it just yeah. It was tough sucked. There's no other way to say it was loss of of incredible talent but more importantly an incredible friend human being father and husband just just sad episodes of raw november fourteenth. two thousand five and smackdown november eighteenth. Two thousand five both of which were filmed on november thirteenth air distribute stated guerrero. All the storylines were put on hold no. Wb employees were forced to perform although several matches did take place in including one featuring chabot who finished the match with his uncles finishing maneuver the frogsplash role started with all the wrestlers and numerous backstage personnel onstage. Vince mcmahon addressed the live crowd before finishing with a ten bell. Salute followed by vince. Saying people to rosza. Ms most passionate voice in addition to raw and smackdown doing tribute shows. Tna total nonstop wrestling dedicated their pay per view genesis which aired on the evening of his death eddie guerrero ring of honor name their next show nine of tribute ohio valley also paid tribute to him. Many of the wrestlers wore armbands with eeg on them. Very mysterious gave an emotional speech about any and in a show of respect removed his mask and mysteriously went on to defeat shawn michaels and inter promotional match. Later that night after the match michaels and mysterious hugged in the ring and mysterious pointed up to the sky crying and memory of guerrero and eventually other wrestlers primarily chabot mysterious and christian pay tribute to him and their matches using the frogsplash combat zone wrestling also pay tribute. That did a little ten bell salute and Wrestlers like see pauken ramos. Cheerio have dedicated some of their masters to guerrero three doors down Had a song here without you. That was used as a tribute song for guerrero as johnny cash is hurt video that that johnny cash video with The hurt song over clips of eddie was just maybe one of the more haunting video packages and company history when she agree with that. Yeah live. That night was very difficult and Being home on that friday night. I remember like it was yesterday because we were going to do family portraits and was supposed to be there seven thirty or something like that and smackdown came on and that was the first thing on smackdown and i couldn't move. I just couldn't move and just stood there staring at the tv watching the tribute and Bowen good idea But yeah he was gone and left. Gigantic hole ramos. Stereo was gonna dedicate a lot of what's coming for him to eddie guerrero. He's a second entrant in the. Oh six royal rumble. He winds up winning last eliminating randy. Orton and They're on a collision course now. ordinance urging him to put this title shot at stake in a match at no way out. Of course you know the winner of the royal rumble gets a world title shot wrestlemainia. So they build up mass between the two last guys who were in the ring at the royal rumble which is natural but one of the ways. They tried to sell the pay per view. Here is in february of. Oh six as randy's cutting a promo about eddie guerrero being sort of the inspiration for ramos. Stereo and ray keeps pointing to the sky and things like that. I can't believe this happened. But randy orton said eddie in heaven and he's down there in hell stereo flips out. Beats him up the referees or pulling off but goodness gracious you took a lot of heat. At the time. I didn't know eddie guerrero. You did in hindsight. Do you wish you had this one back or think any would have liked to have still been a part of the story line because that feels like that's what people say when they're used posthumously in an angle like this i believe that he would have loved it and i think that eddie definitely would van no problem with it whatsoever is matter of fact if there is a spirit Accuracy insisting on it type thing so that's my feeling from our relationship with eddie guerrero and unless you spent as many nights as i have Speaking to him and just getting him in a good place in his head Keeping him as much as we straight narrow. Then you don't know and you can't and you can't make that judgment so Vicky was cool with it and no one knew him better than his family. So i feel that it was the right thing and it was. It was something that eddie would have would have wanted. I really believe that orton. Wads up beating ray at no way out if you can believe that or not. But eventually the general manager teddy long would add. Ray mysterio back into this wrestlemania title match. So now. it's a three way. It's orden mysterious. And then champion kurt angle night before wrestlemainia of course was the hall of fame. And eddie guerrero goes into the hall of fame here with bret. Hart mean jean Sensational sherri vern ganja and others. Eddie's inducted by a grill crispin juan raymond stereo eddie's widow vicki and her two daughters are representative and receiving the honor. It's a very emotional moment. Everyone involved and the next night at wrestlemainia. It's another feel good moment. Mysterious beats orton to become the new world. Heavyweight champion and after the match mysterious was celebrating with chabot. And vickie guerrero really a feel. Good moment here. This in the plans since the rumbled. Think the assyria title since the rumble. Yes talked about. I don't know the vince was completely solon. It right till february but from talking point in doing it yes egg. Eddie's legacy lives on a lot more than just ray dedicated matches to it wouldn't be too long before his longtime wife now unfortunate widow. Vicki became a very prominent character on. Tv in oh six maybe seven or eight months after eighties deaf she becomes a pretty prominent feature in some pretty controversial storylines Well how do you think eddie would have felt about that. He had to be proud. I mean she was not necessarily a trained professional. She was not a hollywood actress but man did anybody excel at their role better than she did. Here he would have been thrilled with. This job. vicky was absolutely incredible. And i think he would have been extremely proud and very happy that she was to continue on the name and the legacy of eddie guerrero and not just For him for her for the kids. So i guarantee you eddie would have been ecstatic. She's going to be a topic all on her own eventually. The storylines and references to eddie would drift away sometime in two thousand seven and she was off to the races. Were think What do you think. Eddie's legacy will be in pro wrestling latino he and being the guy that crossed over So many ways eddie. Eddie made it for the smaller talent in the business as well as hispanic talent in the business say that a man there is no ceiling in you got the talent drive and the desire that you can do it too so Friend however performer. And one of those guys that will be missed and talked about for decades. David mcclay on twitter wants to know what's the best nine. Wwe or wcw. match of. eddie. I should check out bruce. Do you have a recommendation for either a wwe. Or a non w match. Oth- i said other than i was gonna say triple a. stuff with los gringos locos but to me. The bull rope match that we did was was lot of fun with jbl to great american bash. Yeah i mean. I don't think that there's going to be a lot here. We can recommend that weren't really really good Deplorable hombre says of eddie. Guerrero were alive. Today would be two years younger than the undertaker. If his heart were healthy. How long far do you think eddie would have gone in professional wrestling. And what do you think you'd be doing today. I think that eddie would probably the producer backstage be contributing with the. The knowledge is in his head. James watson besides hpk. What one wrestler do you wish you had a program well. Hpk would have been my answer. Dammit is there another one though. I mean i think everybody agrees. That would have just been one for the ages. Can you imagine if he could hung around till. aj styles was the thing online. Oh my god there's another one a michael says. This is a hard question. I asked what had any passed away. Would things have been different. You think with crispin wa allegedly had a huge impact on him. that's hard to even imagine. Not bruce yeah. I have no idea when one one bad piece of news after another Wants to know was the hug between eddie and crispin wife to wrestlemania planned or was it just a heat of the moment deal. It's real life man. listen. I wish we We could sit here and talk about eighty guerrero forever. I don't know that there's a long enough show or enough time in the day to really pay tribute to him any last parting words. You wanna share with us about your friend eddie guerrero. Today i think that eddie guerrero was one of the single greatest performers businesses ever ever had the pleasure of being able to watch and for me from a personal level to be instrumental in his career and to be his friend. Probably more than anything The the going from chabot to any and everybody in between the brothers guerrero just proud proud that association and I loved him so much. And you know chubby doj today carries on does his thing and my london and we did too We hope you have enjoyed our eddie guerrero tribute. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 120: Fite For Your Right To JLIT (Preview)

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47:47 min | 2 years ago

Wrestling Cheers- Episode 120: Fite For Your Right To JLIT (Preview)

"This is Mr Fund Size Marco stunt and you're listening to wrestling cheers way in the world taking a break from all your show and how he lives away. Sometimes you WANNA go where everybody trump you on you. When you EH and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially on fight TV this this is wrestling chairs would like to talk about things we'll independent wrestling seen we preview shows we review shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way? This is a preview episode for this Friday's a WS show J._T. J._t.. Lightning Invitational Tournament Twenty Thousand Day One can't really preview day to just yet wrestling cheers is brought to you by training topics network Midwest territory and key on Sports. I'm your host. I am just in summers. Please rate review UNSUBSCRIBE. Wherever you listen to this fine podcast it'd be apple podcasts Google podcast ichard tune in YouTube spotify iheartradio piping wrestling cheers pod bean dot com find us on facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash rushing cheers twitter dot com slash resin cheers instagram graham dot com slash rescuers email if you choose desirous and cheers at Gino Dot Com and we have the merged or over at what maneuver dot net like I said we will be previewing Fridays and w show the day one of the annual Jalen Tournament and with me this week we have rick greetings? I'm doing good. It's always a fun fun jalen weekend. I love Jalen one of my favorite weekends of the year. I'm sad sad that it's not the non-regular Memorial Day but just for me because I have nothing else to compare like dissociate with doesn't still feels like J. Weekend. Just because it's not the more they feels a little bit different but you know what three shows in two days days. It's a hall and I think people just like that extra day Kinda recover from it but <hes> you and I were not big drinkers at the show anyway so I think we'll get through justified and we also have stacy. Hey Man. How's it going? Welcome back to the show yeah. It's been a long since I've been on thinking how many in a row you WANNA and at least three I think okay that's what I thought to have been three. We will be breaking that streak somewhat. <hes> basically basically a little programming note because there's a lot of show. We're not gonNA preview the whole weekend. We can't really preview day two of the jail at tournament so we will be doing day one and that will be released by. You're listening this today Thursday and then on Friday hey we're going to have the Chandler big memorial texting tournament preview because that's the only other thing that we can preview if we sat there and recorded an episode previewing all this like I'm very serious. We're talking like a three hour episode. This is divided. I love and you can can finish on Thursday and come back Friday. Maybe even come back for Saturday on your way to the Chandler begins memorial detecting tournament so <hes> Friggin what twenty twenty one twenty four person person tournament and let's we're going to do a little bit different format normally with previews with we pick three and then we pick do all the picks after that well. There's a lot of matches and began to just kind of skip all of that but we're just going to go through all of them. Make our picks and talk a little bit about the magic one where we're looking forward to and what we obviously see common so we're going to break this down in order of the bracket starting at the top and working away way the bottom of so up at the top the very first match in bracket a Louis Linden Verses Kid Kash Stacey. I'm pretty sure you are excited for Kid Kash man. I'm excited for anybody see who was in EC. W even if you're gimmick was on kid rock but no I'm. I'm excited for Kid Kash. I get the Lewis Linden spot so I don't know he's pushing fifty. We'll see what he can do. I mean marginally went last year. He he sure fucking did <hes>. I think we might get a little bit better than what Mardi was able to give us out of Kim cash. What do you think about this metric well? I'm marked out like crazy. When I saw the graphic for cash huge huge easy w mark <hes> probably the only guy that would make me mark more would be if Simon diamond ever decided to <hes> took him out of retirement? Take Thorns invitation for meet and greet <hes> just like Stacey said he gets the Lewis. Linden spot good for him. Hopefully he beats Lewis Linden because I can't bear sit through that many more Lewis Linden matches. I think regardless of what happens. We're going to get to see ah cash for both nights. I don't think thorn brings him in just for one night A._b._c. me the pictures of Kid Kash he's frigging monster huge and the guy was still wrestling in what last year two thousand seventeen still printing on on pretty good show I I think he's GonNa surprise not really huge on cash and I mean Linden. It's always seen them about <hes>. We're going to talk about picks. <hes> I'll go with kid Kash I think he he gets away and goes onto the second round. What do you think sese he cash for sure he abbott? Go kick captures while next up well we we keep both members of air form in back brackets we have K._t.. Be Versus flip the Kendrick fucking we all love K._T._v. moves from the woods from the from the fucking was and if I'm correct I've been told he has great ass merch. He's he's he's got pretty good merch. This is kind of but this is kind of a emerge heavy bracket because we have someone else <hes> towards the WHO's also really good merch but we killed at the death <hes>. What do you think about algae this K._T._B._S. demand pay-tv wins this match but it's going to be really good because every time I've seen K._T.? Be Wrestle a guy who's like faster and smaller. It's always really fucking good <hes> his K._T._B._S.. He's in there with somebody who works fast. I go fast yeah so it's it's going to be. K._T._B._S. and it's going to be a fucking. Maybe the best magin round on what are your thoughts on this metric the I can't T._B.. Goes over for sure. I think that guys on a roll I mean he's been a we've only had him for what you know six months eight months it all these seems like he's. He's got to be a pretty much a regular at most air. W I see this guy everywhere now I do here like you said he has. Some great comma asked Comma Merch but <hes> I think we see <hes> I think we see the flipper and Linden may be on Saturday night. Maybe tagging backup since we're putting those were put in former tag teams back together with euthanasia. Maybe we see those guys is both take els and then get together on Saturday to try to try to get back in the win. Cal like where you think in there. I kinda thought that myself when I was filling out my bracket yeah. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA GO K TV too. He's he's definitely someone who's been on a roll like. I don't know exact record I W but buccaneers kill it every time and sometimes that's how wrestler start out in a w and then next thing you know you know they're winning championships. We got we got everybody's pick on that. One right YEP from LEWITT's speaks speaking of K._T.. Opponents that are very short. We have what's going to be my favorite match. The night and I've gotten Shit Ford Already Marco stunt making his A._I.. W debut against my my nemesis some people say tim danced. I've highly looking forward to this match not just because I get to actually finally see Marco. Stunt wrestle live not because I could see one of my favorite authors. Go up against the do that. I liked it <hes> boo against but I'll just fucking danced okay. He's he always puts on the always but he has a lot of good matches lot of good rivalries lot of good shit with him and basically we talk about a lot of measuring sticks in w view downstairs one of them. I heard <hes> thorns down the podcast. You know he's the Roman reigns of A._I.. W and I I kind of agree so yeah brig afforded this but Althorp my pick now as much as I would love to see Marco advance dance and go to the next round. I see other things for Marco Day too so that's where I'm GonNa put it dance wins. What did I think of this semester with brick? Dow the big dog Tim Dance. I I could see it exactly the way that you you just said having said that I'm GonNa Pick Marco I think I picked him in my bracket. <hes> I just a you know. Maybe we over think this stuff. We start thinking about <hes> like second round. Well you could see K. T._b.. And Marco Geico back in the same ring at the same time <hes> both of them were kind of put farther on the map by that match that they had earlier you know do we want to rehash history a little bit. What do we WANNA? Do you know I know it's away but you get some interesting parents but then again to you know daas is always there. He's always winning. He's always around the you know one of the things I like about these jalen tournaments. They're so many matches that you could you can make a definite case for either way. This is going be one of them but I I'm going to go pick pick Marco advanced. How about you stay men? Do you even have to ask Tim. fucking danced is GONNA win. Oh I thought you were gonNA. You're GonNa Pick Marco. That's that's what I figured. Oh Yeah. No you figured wrong friend. <hes> Tim fucking dawn's twins if I put on facebook I wonder what room for everyone says Tim Don's. I'm GONNA do the same psychology for you. Kill against exactly what you're gonNA root for or who who you got win in here but then again I'm rooting for his. I'm rooting for stunt bud IE L._l.. Donswindows that's what I've said for awhile but other than that which is danced hasn't sniff the title how long and as much <hes> I might not as much as I might not like it sometimes still bill entertaining. Oh Man Gym dance those bright and he's GonNa win. I don't know how that will even you know that's not even a thing obviously to now next up. We have Dan housing versus Matt Justice Motherfucker Man. It's one that's one for you. Stays who the fuck you picket man. I mean so in in a lot on the gas and pick against justice man. It's Matt just mad justices fucking year I it's justice justice site Chon album in the process. It's like justices two years that he's been on returned at W. is better and better and better Beth Ma- justice for sure this is going. Be a really good match to be in house and a lot of singles matches and this is going to be a good one. How about you rick? I'm picking justice in this match. I think he's just too tough and you know the the four way. Scramble scramble kind of stuff is is built for justice. I already have a bracket that was submitted to be for the jalen contest. which has Dan Hausen winning at <hes>? You know these are to think outside the box Dan how's it Wednesday lit Eddie N. Derek when Chandler begins cop. You know maybe it could be a good production weekend. Having said that I think justices just too crazy on too big of a role right now. He still has the Satan Belt in you know that's that's enough to get him through man. If there ever should've been a match four black craft wrestling for that Satan Belt. It's this just as Dan housing match man. They dropped the fucking ball over there when they didn't bring Dan Housing. I don't know if they even exist list anymore. A man you know justice yeah I got my photo with a justice has the belt. That's all the matters whenever we're done. We'll pick a a final my winner but the the pick that I wanNA throw out now is early in the year in January we had just early bird predictions and we did gauntlet and jail it. The only person that got gauntlet right was stacey and Jalen it stacey also picked match us as did I which will get to later if that is his pick now or not but will will see I for me. I gotta go. I gotta go justice. I love Dan Housing and at the same time <hes> who's to say that Dan how's not maybe with the production in a maybe a six-man tag match night to then if al correct you guys both justice to Right. Oh yeah unanimous justice have we picked identical illustrate down the board <hes> not you're the only one the pick Marco I thought all right and <hes> do a little bit differently will couture. We'll go to a small inspirational ad and we'll be right back. I quit bracket to you. 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I like this one M J F purses Savio Vega fucking what are the odds that NJ F- mentions bruiser brody alive while wasn't Salvio around that I'm getting into trying to get inside his head of what he would say and that's the top thing that comes to my mind whether he would do say that maybe M._J.. A._F._C. Young fellow he might not even know who Salvia Vega's is. That's that's factual. That's that is true to Savi Vega Gabby to have we anybody seen how <hes> or what kind of shape he's in now. Nope we know the John Thorn has been chasing racing him for years so who who knows the jury is out. I don't know if it matters what kind of shape these in it. I don't think it does either. You're right. I'm just trying to put a mental picture of what I think. He's GonNa look like and then see if he impresses me or it's what I expect. I don't even know what I expect the problem I I haven't seen Savia Vega like seen a picture of what Salvio Vega looks like for anytime in the last decade aid so who knows you know what I'm picturing when I think of Sabio Vega look I know what's Obvio- Vega looked like you know back in the day and I'm thinking <hes> you ever watch Saturday night. Live and Keenan Thomson does like like an old band character and all they do to him like a little bit of white in his hair. That's their pictures of Yo. Vegas is going to be the same guy for just a little bit of whiteness hair little bit gray yeah. I'M GONNA put down a pick. I'm GonNa go M._J.. Half how Rick I'm GonNa go Salvio Vega just because John Thorn has been looking for savvy oh Vega for ever and I don't think there's any way that John only lets him hanging around for one night. Nobody says he no I have I'm Jeff. I I think I think Salvio can still be around on night to and not have to be matches taxing that four way match would be Savia. Kid Kash is pushing fifty. Salvio Saviola has eclipsed fifty yeah I just. I don't know the deceased obvio- Vega but I don't think he can beat. I'm Jay S.. M. Jeff Ones Landon. The Curt Hawkins Buddy matchup. We have pet buck verses corn twaddell. I'm not too familiar with that book of then the whole Rybeck podcast shit and even that I didn't listen but I knew that he was a part of the Joe Oh man he's on the Rybeck podcast he will he was at one one point. I guess ever listened to just read the Ri- caps the you know anything about this rick. I know nothing about Pat Buck other than is you know his relationship with the Hawkins and and so forth <hes> I know nothing about Pat Bach. I'm anxious to see him because he looks like a monster in size when he's a he's a dude has been around for a long time figuring out having having said that he's a monster so swath will probably beat them probably tap him out todd. I hope not just looking actually at this bracket of what the potential people that wind up around two is some fun Chet. I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go squabble Tasing Man. I would love to swallow but I'm I'm going Pat Buck with Rick. He looks like a monster in that picture and yet payback. It's through there you go. That's where you go. I'm going to swallow. I just think that this middle these brackets are put together just very odd to me like a this middle bracket. I just picture being like the kind of oddball second round you know I've already picked Salvio Vega to go through. You might as well as the next up we have Lee Moriarty versus Colt Cabana. If I'm correct this is Lee Moriarty's second announced singles match up in w his debut in the Jalen Tournament and he's going up against Colt Cabana big spot big moment for him and who doesn't love a Colt Cabana match. Don't answer that because I'm pretty sure there are people out there who don't like cocoa Beta matches but that's a was supposed to be rhetorical question question. What are your thoughts on the Stacey man out good? Is it for lead that he gets Coke Cabana then be a really good match. I've never seen Lee in like a comedy match. Know How that's going to be but I'm excited to see it. However however I think Cococabana wins? How about you rick? Is this going to be a comedy match. I mean are we going to get like N._W._e._a.. Champion Colt Cabana in this one you know what are we looking at but in a high oh probably probably brings about I'm picking Cabana just to go with the theme. A second round match was savvy. Oh Vegas Waddell and whole caban out so we gotta go Colt Cabana just in the hopes that this happens yeah <music>. I'M GONNA I'm an also go Cococabana next up. We have doctored Daniels see Rockingham versus Manse Warner I don't I don't know what say about this match. I'm speechless the the return. Maybe a doctor death match the kgon brutal style of Man's Warner. This is going to be so good. <hes> I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go with an upset. I'M GONNA say Dr Daniel See Rockingham. How about you stacey men? You Pick in Dr Dan to be Manse Warner. I I'm not saying it's going to be fair. <hes> man so is going to beat the shit out of Dr the Dan I you know what I wanna see as honesty manser staple one of those pamphlets Dan's tongue and really think Dan's going to win and was just pretty brutal like you gave Steve Joey Ryan beat Joey Ryan gave him a below the belt paper cut so I mean who knows death match but man. I can't pick against Manser. We got Parker Pierce that could potentially be involved. Duke could be involved. Maybe the duke screws up hits Vance with the boot cost him the match on. I'd if it's a straight up one on one no interference no bullshit Oh yeah manslaughter all day but I think Manson's going to find some bad shit but it won't be his fault. How about you rick? I think this is that sneaky fifteen to match up in the N._C._A._A.. Tournament where you go wow there's no way number. Two Seeds GonNa get knocked off by fifty <music>. Keep a close through third quarter into the fourth quarter and something <hes> something goes crazy. I'm also GONNA pick Dr Daniel See Rockingham to pull the upset here of the brackets that I'm getting in early. Probably sixty sixty percent of the brackets have manse Warner winning the whole damn thing. I think that this match is a red herring. I think it's there to throw us off the trail of man's Warner. I think the second bracket is the comedy bracket so we're going to get that at Savia. Vega Swath Will Cabana D._C.. Are Matchup. Can you imagine how ridiculous that thing is. GonNa look in the second round. I'M GONNA put D._C._R.'s well so I meant to bring it up early in the show but explained everything everything about the brackets that people are sending how we're we're doing a little thing on fumbles. The on twitter facebook is fine to <hes> doing a Hashtag J. Lit contest. All you gotta do ascendant bracket. <hes> you can get the empty brackets gets anywhere my my twitter has a w obviously or steel somebody else's white out a couple of names whatever you WanNa do and <hes> we're getting a lot of guys that are that are sending me messages donating prizes for the winner. You know it's a March Manda style point for the first round two points for the second four points if you pick the winner high score wins the only <hes> I guess the the only thing is you either have to be in attendance. You gotta buy a ticket to sometime. During the weekend or you gotTa buy it on T._V.. To participate so you buy ticket or you watch the show live our T._v.. You can participate. WE'RE BIG OUT LIKE PHILLY affiliate. Marino headbands have been donated. I got a copy of the Guy Memoirs of a wing man he's GonNa for us. We got four pack of toilet paper autographed by Dr Day and you'll see Rockingham. That's going to go in the prize package. We got a shoutout from Ed and pat over on pod Bay and A._M.. Which is a lot of fun and we're GonNa do a whoever wins this thing we're GONNA do a cameo video from a celebrity and you can't see my air quotes but amusing air quotes around the word celebrity <hes> <hes> because if you've been on cameo you've seen that there's a lot of Wasi celebrities on their who will be congratulating you on your two thousand nineteen? J. Lit up bracket win. <hes> stationed silvers already has some great ideas for cameo celebrities and there's probably going to be another Sadler six seven eight prizes that are going to get included in this bad boy before the whole thing's done <hes> some good stuff. Some of its tongue GPS t tongue in cheek steph easy for for me to say but <hes> I think it's GonNa be a lot of fun. Just <hes> throw your bracket in Hashtag. J Let contest you can tag me if you want at Rick Nelson Twenty one so I see it. I put a little hardy like on it so I know that I saw it. It's just fun. We're just having a good. We're just having you know trying to try to spread the love and get your picks and everybody likes to do brackets for everything brackets fund right. Let's <hes> let's add a prize right here on. What are you get on behalf of wrestling cheers? If you win and you get a free paid front row seat to absolution whoa that is a how big that's a big addition. I on behalf of whoever wins in a won't be me is obviously not eligible way. I want to thank you in advance for that because that is a that's a that's a big prize to go out of pocket for us and that's all we have a history on this show of giving out tickets and haven't done it in a while. I always wanted to be something something meaningful or hey go. Give us a review and we'll give some free shout but the one was always my favorite was I think I got this from biggins where I wish I remember we gave away tickets for some show but it had to be for somebody or the only people who could win is someone who had never been to an ad w show so you could if you were you had been w show as long as you promised to give that to a friend who has never been to one and it's Kinda K. I got your free ticket. Let's go yeah so I like to do crazy shit like that so yeah. Let's do a paid front row seat at Abso so that's that was all of that bracket and then well. I guess we'll be right back after this second paid advertisement retirement. I'm glad to see that no one has left but now you're asking yourself document. Are you going to tell us what the D._C.. Our system is I will tell you now three simple the principals at change everyone's lives dedication confidence in respect d. c. art if one is dedicated to themselves confident in oneself and respectful of oneself there is nothing that they cannot accomplish those three principles are the building blocks of anything. You wished to achieve if you just remember D. C. Are there's nothing a you cannot accomplish but sometimes you feel that isn't enough. Sometimes you need to be a little more focused on the task at hand but don't worry to go along with medication confidence and respect respect you can always remember rule number one all right third and final bracket this one fuck just kind of looking at you might have the snippy them bad ass bracket. <hes> we start things off with Eric Stevens versus Dominic Greeny and fell openly admit I'm not brushed up too much on Eric Stevens but I know as soon as he got announced. That Saddam started posting twitted at that's who he wanted so he gets stacey. I think you're you're more familiar with him. Obviously I am <hes> yeah. I mean he's a he's a guy that hasn't been around for a while but he was pretty sure it was a ring honor Guy <hes> <hes> I thought I read that he he was he quit or whatever less time he was in two thousand ten. I started following the eleven so like I of like current stuff. I just missed him yeah. I it was during a time where I wasn't actively actively watching Ragavan or so. I've only seen him going back and watching stuff. That says I twenty ten probably is around the last time that he was there but yeah this match is going to be really good though ever dom gets to wrestle somebody that he really wants to wrestle Russell W Rick I know nothing of Eric Stevens therefore I have to pick dominic. I think I'll I'll I'll pick dom to kind of the same thing of not knowing much about Air Stevens potentially see him in day to as well some point thing that we gotta mentioned too. I think it's going to be important to this. Part of the bracket is filthy. Tom Sawyer will be at Jalen and on at night to he will defend the absolute championship against somebody. That's all we know. Who's WHO's your pick on this DEYSI? Oh Dom Donnas next up. We have a rematch of one of the best matches of seven year itch Eddie Kingston an sack Taunus Eddie Kingston winning Golic for the gold. Kinda doesn't really need to have another title shot but it has the opportunity and fucking Zach Thomas Dude who just we've talked about so many times of <unk>. I'll say the great year he's had just getting better and better and becoming that much more of a bad ass. This is going to be crazy fucking match. I'M GONNA go. I'M GONNA go Eddie Kingston facing <hes>. I'm doing things done for sure sure. This is the other match in the first round like for night. One that I think has the potential to be the match of the net <hes> I real tough stiff <hes> the Shit Outta each other match but Eddie Kingston wet. How `bout you rick? I think Zach Thomas is developing a real mean streak as he's a progressing. I think exactly what you guys said. Two guys are just going to beat the crap out of each other in my bracket. I Have Kingston thin advancing so I guess I'm GonNa Stick with that but it would not surprise me at all to see Zach Thomas get the win here next up. We have no consequences whether you want to save the the bitterness between them. The whatever Joshua Bishop versus trae Lamar and of course you know Josh Bishop is going to have the one and only West Barclay corner for this one. I gotta go with Joshua Bishop. Have a you rick. I'M GONNA go bishop too but it's going to be interesting to see whether or not trae has <hes> a fellow that's absent in the tournament P._b.. smooths hanging around in on now that him and A._J.. Jay and <hes> trae cohesive unit. You know who's to say the P._B.. Smooth doesn't come down there to counteract Mr Maserati West but I think bishop all the stuff. He's been through lately. He's just going to be way to tougher. trae probably W._B._Z.. Man How can you bet against Josh Bishop but the fucking year he's Avin. There's no way trays good for Israel. Good match really good but there's no way he beats bishop and the fact that West Barclay can interfere. That's a stack stacked deck. You know with forty acres. He could have P._B.. There he could have Asia gray out there but at man it's Josh Beckett Bishop Wayne A._J.. Gray might be a little occupied depending on where or this match for <hes> falls on the car north next match falls on the card Nick fucking gauge versus a J cray the King Nick Fuck engage which the only other wrestler that was picked picked to win Jalen of the people that were on for the show episode back in January was nick gage by doesn't Birdie and Kagan so I'm. I'm curious to see what happens with this we've seen A._J.. Gray a go up against justice and we saw what happened there like A._J.. Gray kick some fucking ass but if I'm picking anybody I gotta go with Nick Flocking Gauge all day. How about you wreck? I think this is another the second possible possible trap match of the night where this is another one where nine percent of the people are just got right down gauge in the bracket not even think about it. You know what happens of A._J.. Gray pulls the upset. Then Nick Gage puts his puts his hat in the ring in to try to challenge filthy Tom for the w title you know on night to <hes> you know gets out of the tournament so he can get that title shot instead. You just never know gauges the smart guy but he's he's been known to be a little underhanded at times so you know I gotTa pick gauge. It's like can't see Jay gray being able to handle gauges style man. I definitely see this one being just a trap <unk> man so I try not ought to things right. Jay Gray is beast that I've seen nick gage someone with the skill set the A._J.. Has the the agility in the strength and I try not to over think it in like Oh. What could the ideas be for day to try to look at? This is like a one wrestling. I got picked gauge. I think that gauge wins. I don't know what A._J.. Gray can do that. No negage is fucking. Just just fucking you know there's anything geographic in due to to overcome Nick Gage INS match plus. I think looking at it the other way I think <hes> if all three members of forty acres don't have any any involvement in the tournament in day to that makes them more available to do of it but if day to we see forty acres versus the production Oh that'd be fun one. I would be a great match and it works out with my bracket. Do we get your pick for this rick. I got gained took ago. Who Do you guys have as your final winner start with stacy so the three guys that I have going in manser which holy fuck what kind of matches that that's amazing amazing <hes> and I have manse win in the whole thing I'm part of that sixty percent of people who've submitted their brackets with Manson I think at some point in the whole thing the Josh Matt stuff their their rivalry will make Reagan opportunity for Manse to be able to take advantage of and get a hobby rick? I think Matt Justice just too tough to stop right now. I think he is on a major major role. That eventually is going to see him. Take the double <unk>. I W title off of who ever may hold it whether it's wall or Kingston or whoever the heck it is I have met justice to win the whole thing also GonNa go with justice winning the whole thing kind of just backing up my early prediction in the here haven't figured out a brag yet so I haven't figured out how that would follow that what happened but with the run that Matt justices had I could easily see him when maybe he beats bishop maybe he doesn't but if he would beat bishop to win it wouldn't that make him a number one contender back up to the intense championship I think we could you can he could win and but still continue the feud with with bishops so that's a pretty much all our thoughts really quick quick we could do for day one of the Jalen Tournament <hes> any final thoughts are less minute plugs for we go or let's do a fun thoughts on Jalen has a whole source stacey men Jalen gala is one of my favorite weekends of the year period not just like wrestling weekends but like all add all fifty two jailbirds like weekends of the year from <hes> the Friday night is a long night Saturday. You don't really have to be back in the building to three in the afternoon this year. We're not doing the tailgate before. I don't think because of the parking lot <hes> but it's like it's four a good reason it's to commemorate to people were incredibly important wrestling <hes> with the biggest cup on dates you and what the J._T.. Lightning tournament I man it's good time. The after parties are a lot of fun. The shows are always really good. I have never once been to jail it and then like Oh man. I wish I haven't in gone like it's always a good time. The show the got me to start coming to a W so we again and everybody should bring their asses out to building. Cover your yeah. It is one of the most fun <hes> also wrestling weekends of the year you know the only thing tops it as you know that craziness and independent wrestling that is the menu mania week but as far as local is concerned is a great venue. It's going to be beautiful this weekend end <hes> you know you're right there on the water so it's GonNa be a nice you know nice backdrop for wrestling the Odeon is a great place to watch wrestling is also a good weekend to kind of mingle get to know people you know say they had people. You'd never said Hi to <unk>. You're GONNA be sharing you know the space with people for basically a day and a half. You know we're going to be hanging out in doors for the better part of you know eighteen twenty hours so you know say hi to people you barely now <hes> get to know some <hes> get to know some New People. It's you know it's a it's a whole community thing we've been. We've always been given compliments for people Outta town about what a great community W has leave on area area. You know it's a time it's time to show show made of you. Get to see the official debuts of all the you know all the students at the Chandler Up Biggins tag team tournament and you just never know what will happen. You never know who will show. You never know who's GonNa win. These things you know. It's going to be a great weekend by some tickets. imen- night to always has like you were talking about surprises like night to always has some weird shit man. I never thought I would see that. I didn't even know I wanted to see that but I'm really glad I saw that thorn responded to pod Vandamme Ed on twitter and he said don't <hes> et it said something about not mm you know he probably wasn't gonNA come tonight to and Thorns <unk> just so you know we have some put murders planned night to and any other any other any other thing other than wrestling you would take that as a bad thing but when we hear that there's potential leaders plan our little ears perk right up and we go whole there's gotTa be something fun that happens tonight. I like to hear that and I mean we're not covering it like there's a whole another podcast for the biggest tournament. The thing is stacked to the teams that are in it is that's fucking great. Show on the big tournament. Crazy Shit has happened in that time slot in past years like A._J.. Grade debuted on that show <hes> two years ago is he shit so originally if you're GonNa Find Kaplan on it's an appearance during that biggins tournament spot plus the birth of Barclay nation is going to be the new Barclay nation is going to be you know fifty guys shown Mikey Montgomery 'cause I w regulars grief you know what what's what's IT GONNA be. We had the whole year storyline out of some fans who came to cheer for West Barclay in that you just never know what kind of what's going to happen. It's a win your anniversary of Barclay nation at a new thing about that two year anniversary of Bishopric aid which we thought that was the worst until partly came along the bar has been raised and now they're attacking making their who will be wrestling in that chandler big tournament making their A._I.. W debut as a team officially ended at the show for the big tournament thing that I wanna say his. These are definitely one of the best times of the year. This is the the show that I always try to get like friends from out of town who are wrestling fans to to come. I feel feel like there's a lot of slota ironically enough. I Dunno tournaments that are popular shows in areas <hes> like whether it be another like hand with a lot of death match tournaments that are that are big either on the east coast or for like w. a. and then I know down in Tennessee like they have the scenic city invitational which is a whole weekend thing and I feel like the Jalen it is ours and it has just grown evolve. I remember when there was just sounds like I'm being old but I just remember when it was two shows and then one year they're like Oh. We're going to create a fan fest which was basically instead of a show. They have entertainment Kinda set up. That's where there was a winner date with fatal Scott both years they had it and then there was some game show set up to of for wrestlers just kind of inter entertain the fans and obviously if you let them eat any of the wrestler they're all there and now it's it's turned into a show with the <unk>. Turn it into honor to of just the legends of this area. Unfortunately I never met J._T.. Lightning but you figure the legacy that you know he is left behind not only just hearing this scene but now with the world of guys like Rowen in Johnny Gargano and that all that all started here in through him. I wish I would have got to meet the dude on that wasn't a set in the cards but then there was big ins and to memorialize him every year. Is something that I I truly truly love. Definitely come out if you're you're listening and you haven't bought a ticket yet because this comes out on Thursday shows tomorrow beat a by a ticket bite on Fight T._v.. Helps the only way you can potentially potentially win a front row seat to to absolution. You'RE NOT GONNA you're not gonNA WANNA miss that. I've had a lot of great great memories Jalen weekend like does suck that we're not going to have the tailgating because that became a fun thing thing but it just it is what is and <hes> yeah come out. Support great shows for two great weekend common how some fun at this fucking show alright with that being said any final thoughts last minute plugs for we go start with creek. I have the contest going on Hashtag. J. Lit contest though out of racket I mean heavyset has been generous enough to donate probably the best prize that GonNa have I mean the less stacey wins and he gets a cameo from one of the head Bangers than I've been thrashed them. You know fifty fifty but where else are you gonNa you know come on. You're GONNA free tickets. Absolution plus a autographed eight by ten from razor-sharp. What do you want a lot of bracket tagged at Rick Nelson Twenty one you can listen to my in a razor sharp podcast? Which is the U.? X. W. A. Today. I think it's available place that it should be available at this point Google play apple podcasts stitcher spotify Yada Yada Yada. We do our thing we've got a Shock Kill Buck Ohio the twentieth of July so that'd be a two mentors show up this weekend this week. It's going to be so much fun. Just show up. How about you stacey men? If you listen to this you know what my shizue super fantastic it's it's their gallison to get your podcasts. <hes> more importantly asses to the fuck in Odeon this weekend Iroquois Eveland and you don't already have plans for this weekend can plans for this go to jail it if you haven't been to if you didn't go to lash show as far as given us people going off a balcony. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 112: We Werent Ready For Gauntlet For The Gold 14 (Review)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 112: We Werent Ready For Gauntlet For The Gold 14 (Review)

"They call you. The grill master seared the thickest porterhouse in the butcher shop and as you lift that I four full to your mouth you savor the moment to get amazing offers during the Mercedes Benz summer event like the two thousand nineteen see class sedan and G._N._C. S._U._V. The perfect recipes of driving performance plus. You can enjoy six months of Sirius X._M.. All access included the Mercedes Benz summer event now. Serving Limited time offers on select lineup of vehicles offers end September third mercedes-benz the best this is how right here king a big dogs master Outta pop up here but king of the trailer court the Sutter Soko right here. y'All listen wrestler chairs. You're dummy. If he ate paid attention. Listen subscribe like share hair out at the baby. I'll mess right now. Madrid Salat bears the world to take a break com audio so now lines savannah way sometime ago where everybody John. Can you <music>. Welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially when the lobby smells horrible this is resting shares. Were like to talk about things north-south independent wrestling seen we preview shows we re shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way this is a review episode of last Friday's A._I.. W Show Gauntlet for the gold fourteen. I'm your host. I am heavyset. Please rate great ryun subscriber every listeners fine podcasts whether it be apple podcast Google podcast at your tune in youtube spotify iheartradio pod racing cheers Dot pod bean dot com you can find us on facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash racing cheers twitter dot com slash messengers and instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email if you so choose a desire wrestling cheers at G._M._O.. Dot Com and we still have the Mer store over at what a maneuver dot net like. I said this is a review episode review repeating that review episode of A._W._S.. For the gold fourteen and this week I have cayden and well. How's it going on? These episodes a lot now yeah you even made a comment to me that about coming back fulltime full-time works. I I do that and then you'd be like like I got shifted. You like okay now. I do nothing like my wife outside a wrestling and I also have stacey who was also on the show a lot lately. I like that we have a nice back and forth dynamic of your household back over three million Pam being on the show here true true she can. She handled the preview show and I'm here for this like it's tag team at your turn INS <music> slap okay yeah anyway we had gone for the gold fourteen <hes> like I mentioned in the opening if you've got to stay on that lobby good godless that horrible man I'll be honest. I really like an I'm sure this happened for every person who walked into that lobby but I walked in and then my head I went man smells like bad leg. Somebody's smart and me up with a minute or to the LEGO. No the buildings smells like Jap this. It's not a I. I thought more basement that damp moldy musty basement. That's the that's the smell I was getting but I I did hear other people to say captives so I get it but to me it was just baseman. The fact that there's there were things in that lobby that kind of look like like an older basement like in the that fireplace and everything just and every time I'd have to walk through there it just it was always bad. I would never walk through them like Oh like. It's lightning up. No it's still smells like garbage yeah. I you know I I was in there long enough like in the in the room. The show was happening. I was living there long enough that I forgot that the lobby cap this I was like use the bathroom and as soon as I hit those doors Walker okay well this us and then I think what the water damage to every time I'd go from carpet to a no William trying to go the restroom like my feet would sly a little bit like not necessarily like about the slope and follow. It was just like Oh shit. Oh I was about this Lipa Fall. I almost each each ship front front of Matt Crosses Grandma. That's great. I mean great that you didn't but in front of hurt have been that's kind of funny too yeah I would assume she wanNA laugh and that would that would have eased the pain of fucking breaking my ass but yet no going off that carpet into that back all way not fun time. No what did you think about this kate and you were there the longest or one of the longest I try not to breeze not a good time that was it kind of like summer. Mount Carmel Shows where you're Kinda like going in and out of like all right I gotta get Outta the smell go onto the fresh air kind of like what we do at like I said at Mount Carmel or it'd be like all right. He's getting really hot. In the air. GotTa go outside in the hot air to you can also compare to add solution to end all I've I've. I've mentioned it many times the smartest thing I ever did it that show is. I never walked outside so I just stuck stuck with it the whole night but then soon as I walked out like it felt so good I swear I chugged a gallon of like sweet. Tea Afterwards was death. This one wasn't nearly as that just anybody who ever bitched about that fish fry smell at Akron Hanau. No that's no that's nothing the set a new bars and that I even have an issue with the fish fry smell. No no I don't either but I I'd be real have heard people when they're I'm sure but after we finally got out of the lobby and the show we go into the review part of the show was we started off with a match that that was not advertised but may have gotten spoiled for people we had Lee Moriarty for stray Lamar versus Lewis Linden versus Wheeler Utah versus facade versus Zach Thomas as facade has called himself. He's the King of the head of you scramble matches at outside of Jalen. I don't know in the last time he had a singles match. I think you said it's been like three years twenty seventeen. It was against Alex Daniels. Why that bat that was at a bar show manner show? I remember that I believe that was not the show I was incorrect. I believe that I bet did that main event now no okay the women's title match main invented toys travel stuff yeah. That's now's the last time we seen. I think that's less time we've Seen Zoe's guy. No it might have been the last time you did. She worked winchester. Show yeah this last one one before. Oh Yes yes. I totally forgot about that. I remembered out yet because that was when we we we did we do cat toys that time show and wrestler to well that got ruined wrestler ager was putting the wrong person in charge of it and they just gave it to and so third anybody under the bus but that was I don't what was bad with that one. I took charge of the timeless last time that we through matter but anyway play started off with the the scramble match and Training Memory Match Fun little opener crowd awake. I I like anytime we get to see like almost all these dudes and a match like we were Yuda I which he was on every ad of show that dude's fantastic pretty close to every which yeah yeah I wanna see like not to pair it. What facade said I understand why these six matches are on the shows the I would like to see some of these guys in singles matches like we got wheeler you'd and a singles match once it was great fantastic yeah I would? I'd love to see that dude versus facade or that dude versus his trae your versus Lee Moriarty Year. You know any combination of these dudes in singles matches would be rad. Maybe Jalen will give us some of that but yeah this Max is fine for what it was great but it was a good way to start the show Zach Thomas now Tasr God. He's rolling that now apparently yeah hey man. It's better than his old music Kelly. Currently I liked that trolls roles people. I'm Kinda cool with yeah. That's actually like probably one of my favorite kiss songs but it was because I realize like Oh this is what has those theme from awesome and I and someone actually using fuck why not sure go with it better than his old music present I also agree it's great to when we see more of the minority <hes> we'll you'd is second that one betray Zakar pretty much tables and you had the old older school staples of Louis London facade to if you're going to open especially when the scramble like bad no issue with it <hes> trae Lamar got the win via what Cayden put down as a headlock driver I turn my head for two seconds and missed it so don't yell at me he didn't he yelled at me so I even told them on my dude Kate and did it and he I will correct myself. Here's a snap hairdryer next next up we had N J F versus the Franchise Shane Douglas Douglas didn't really take notes on the the Promo back and forth but kind of your usual M._j.. F of tearing down his opponent and especially someone who who was a legend and Shane Douglas coming back back out and talking shit. I thoroughly enjoyed that whole part nj is really good at what he does like understatement. We should all be real happy that we're getting all this time them J W that viewed is amazing at what he does like. He's there's a reason he has a contract yet yeah. There's there's a real reason he does that. You're going to be a star like a big a big clucking star at eight w assuming everything goes right for that company he's he's really talking good. He's going to be in W._W._e.. In a few years according to him right kidding did he say two years so next. This summer will be the moment of truth east sign with everyone who check them so far good job. Could you imagine if you went to impact on imagine. Anybody's going to impact I mean they got it. Josh Alexander and he's back to the states so hey man I'm happy for that and I'm an impact fan. I just it's rough. These days had high. It was good for a little bit. It's just you know that's what it is right now. The rosters good though the rosters great rosters fantastic. Hey does need to have a stable T._V._D.. Or they don't lose it after a month and a half yeah. Somebody gave me a new way to watch the I dream so I don't have to watch their awful twitch. We'd better <hes> as it's supposed to be on the new APP or no knows. I've haven't looked at anything about that. Well I think as it is recording. I think tomorrow's Moro's win. The new impact will impact plus. Why are you doing Disney? Impact plus is going to be debuting so by the time this comes out. It'll be after the point was suppose it's GonNa be on every platform which is something. I think it's Kinda cold because not every promotion does that. I don't know here's my thing like the W._w._e.. has there at right now and there are so many subscription things that you can get now. There's high spots. There's <hes> the independent wrestling DOT TV. There's there's that other one that you have a commercial for dot TV cheap look now. There's this this impact when and it's just so there's new Japan and there's all Japan and like this to the to fuck emeny at end to this to fucking meant pretty much arresting company you have a streaming service at this point or you're on streaming service. Everybody can't just have an over the top like it's not gonNa work. Everybody's not going to be successful with that either like it's I mean every inch of these companies needs to carve out their own niche instead of just like copying what successful for the biggest one that has nothing got the goal. I'll just throw it out there because I said before my biggest issue with new Japan why they don't have an APP on every platform that I find annoying yeah I mean maybe it's because it's Japanese based in the translation adult. I'm sure there's a lodge reason for so F J F and Shane Douglas of it was fun on like the match fund there was the surprise of the turn of Thuan Tucker. was there an official break-up of of Gombeen forgetting the name Party never ends Friday party never ends Lia Kef wanting to help obey the duke. I'm like that's not it technically. Maybe you X.. W A sort of at the bar show I think yeah I guess there was some of it at the Var show that's kind of where it was. Just it's like all right. We're done because basically Parker Pierces with Dan now yeah that's what was about say that they've both gone in different directions though the dynamic of Nj Heff Thuan like we we see more of it later in the night. I fucking love it yet. I who whoever came up with that idea good on you because it's it's real good. It's it's a really good. How about you kidding? This is just fundamental match EC W file cloud brawl stuff the yard of the crowd for a minute was nothing insane that it was very enjoyable Shane Douglas US you know use of a certain age he can do certain things. He did. All those things good. It was cool say again I was. I was shocked at how good francine still looks to be honest like she does not look like she has aged as poorly as many others from her generation. Wish the I'll I'll give you that you like see the aging but not as poorly yeah there's on that just horrible so N. J. F. One FRA <music> after assistance from big <unk> Tucker the best way to put it that was and then he in many lengthy speech by shame he. I think that's his thing is because he did the the bar show too that he did the surprise showing it like every time I've seen him Russell he has done so. I can confirm this thing. That's fine cool. It's just a little one with five. I couldn't complain too much about it the first time because we get free pitchers he didn't charge yes. Oh was he charge. What were they charge? In this time I didn't go over four same Dino Kate unusual. I think it might have been twenty yeah. I'll have to ask someone yeah I didn't. I'm trying to everything that I spent money on the one thing that I'd made like literally I darted for through my shit down and I ran to dog and I bought one of the best backyard wrestling posters to. I'm so mad at myself so here's what I did <hes> I got high and then I went in and I got my seat about about during this batch during the show I went. I'll fuck. They had those best backyard wrestling those. There's nope not anymore. They know I thought he they still had some intermission. I didn't see them. I looked outside. See any other intermission dam like I walked over and they weren't. You're so what you're telling me. We're going to get a poster but then you got high pretty much yeah. That's yeah that's pretty much it yeah that was like I said the one thing I darted for always have always been a lot of times. They'll be that one thing I want it. Throw my shit down and I make sure I get like other Chandler biggins memorial shirt that they did I through my shutdown ran there and I was like one of the few people like snag my size and I think they sold out of that. One really quick so fucking okay but yeah the skipped my fucking mind man as bumped. I it was forty bucks. Hey man where you're gonNA find another holiday. That's the exact thing I've thought of 'cause I felt like all. Well it's GonNa be about twenty or something like forty Mike yet. I'm not getting one anywhere soon so here. Twenty Bucks I'm here forty bucks the only thing that I forgot kicking myself in the ASS. I meant to bring my P._S.. Two game a best a backyard wrestling and have them signing because I'd have like three different copies of that cover signed and then the poster when the good news there is. I'm pretty sure you'll see Josh Matt around but those posters posters. You know those are sign. You're not gonNA sound that anything that you say that because all but the first D._v._d.. That I bought like that I haven't had them personalise. It haven't personalize allies it and he makes that comment like like I don't WanNa sit on Ebay and I'm like no dude is going from my personal collection like I just don't sometimes I think something's cooler without the personalization that fits like eight by ten five personalize it but it was unopposed imposed on the wall it give or take that one on like add like Jape road already signed. It sounds like can't just have you signed it normal yeah. I you know I'm sometimes I care sometimes. I don't care if it's something I know I'm never going to want to get rid of. I don't care like I Texas. chainsaw shepherd signed to me that I'm real glad is I have stuff. That's not that's fine yeah. I think I'm looking like right now. In My side I got a like a football like sign a bunch of you know eighty-six browns and like it's that personalize it all but because I think of funds on when I think of autographs I think thought in like that where it's just signed. I'm like I'd Never GonNA sell that football. I'M NOT GONNA sell that poster like I don't even know if I've ever really thought about like if I get something autographed like I like this person. Even they like eight by tens that is more like a collection of having those two Solano right anyway over just snatches them for a what but we're starting. I'm going to get into the next match. We have law Familia de Tijuana versus to Infinity Cam beyond for the A. W. Tag team championships forgot that actually put that in the the tweet sleep but maybe these fuckers and L._l.. Turned fifty beyond wins Yeah. I can't tell you anything about this match. I went to the the cat piece Mellon bathroom. It happened. That's up about the Best Not Deg Eighteen Colin. Hey man you you know they're both of those guys are fine wrestlers. Not as I dig them usually do not eight. Oh I don't eat them either. Just as match was just not good. No it was not and they tried to make it just didn't work and I would imagine I didn't see it so yet to infinity beyond retained via roll up which kind of what I expected wow roll up that's up hard ass miniature finisher. I mean does does to infant name beyond lose. The titles now before toy story four comes out. They just don't use them ever. They're going to have until toy story. Five what happens I they lose the belts where you actually gives that R._V.. Cirque fat. I think they lose my money's on titles yeah yeah you can titles. I never get shirt. That's funny story. If you've heard past episodes it's has been mentioned that Pat once teaches argued for twenty shirt wear durant show last year now. The REP show's coming up a last year. I think he weren't onset. Show but what I'm saying is like maybe he'll wear. Bring it to that show. We'll is your ad but last year the rapture was actually on four twenty Bingo match true. I still thought is your everything's off now. I still thought that show should've been either Friday or up in smoke smoke next up we have the final match the final North American match of D._J.'S E it was flipped Kendrick deranged Kringle Oko and the man himself D._J.'s Z.. He was really good Nia. It rules as I said definitely the right participants and we had a thing that I mentioned after the show was like the theme of the night was reactions. I one of the first one was here here. When gringo local comes out with his team and PAM goes nuts man? She lost her fucking. I think a lot of people she loves that Old Gringo Loco see man like she legit jams that at our house on a regular basis while doing like the Gringo Loco dance that's real ship that happens in my house. It makes sense which was the patch was really good. I'd never seen derange wrestling person before like I've never seen that to see your player for awhile. Actually he just arrested in this year. I believe he's good very good. One thing this this mansion mention another match and maybe it was just where I was sitting. Did you guys you'll like the crowd was a low dead. Yes during yeah me too. I was dead for most of the show because of my mentioned you guys but the minute work schedule and now I come straight from work to these shows in I normally try to be in bed between nine and ten eleven at the latest in the helping no like I felt half dead still persevered and and you know went through but I don't think I was feeling that I really was feeling it and this might have been one of those moments 'cause sitting for all the other matches like Ahab really starting to feel so I had to walk around a little a bit and knowing everything we had coming up and then obviously the the main event itself was going to be long and all that ship but I got back from Bethesda less than twenty four hours before that show started how so yeah it was still for me a usable and maybe there was just a lot of that leg. Just everybody was worn out for different reasons but it just this mansion in another one I was like and the crowds kind of debt they were into it but not like going nuts for stuff like when big win beg spots would happen the crowd would pop but you would get that like that dreaded fuck in like murmur sound and the room where like there's like eighty eighty conversations conversations happening at the same time in one room but nobody's like cheering clapping full-back. This was a really good can match flip. Kendrick is really fucking good. We talk about that for a second real good. How fucking good flip Kendrick is my dot like? You know not not a break Kafe APR anybody but he's so much fucking better than his brother who Mike how fuck isn't you get all the fucking like the praise that that do gets because Flip Kendrick is God damn good you just defendant has to W. Fan base whatever if they're offended by the truth. I'm sorry he's real good. He's you really walking good. How many places the Flip Kendrick even Russell anymore? I'm no idea not many is heaven wind energy. It's kind of like guys but Linden also has I mean it's not much but he has a or wrestling debt still like just in Ohio low and then they just worked at Michigan and then he just got booked for welterweight wrestling with it's going to be in a different state. I'll take all high just thought that was funny like Oh. He got booked. Oh it's in the different state okay make sense now. Okay Yeah but this I thought this match really fucking delivered. Yeah like tons of it. Scrape wait a minute. was there no foreign spot. Wow I that just hit me. The that never happened. That's crazy. I kinda liked that it didn't happen. It was kind of owed back to the way he was before this last change in his because he's been working the last few times he's that I've seen them. Wrestle wrestled not the same match but like you know had the typical spots what's the spot for the horn usually multiple times this kind of cool to see it not be that for his life. I'm GonNa Dinette and just for once if it would have been in there I wouldn't have complained but the fact that it didn't happen and I'm just now realizing it is a good thing co yeah because it it it wasn't needed. It wasn't missed so the ad that is trucking nut. He had a nice sendoff to <hes>. That's it's kind of the tradition everybody gets something whether they get the cut a little bit of a speech or whatever wrestlers come out in you know surround the ring nobody's ever going to buy. I don't think is ever going to touch the Gargano Agana of an hour speech but was a speech but totally happy for him. He did get the win which did surprise some at least by US but at the same time I I mean it didn't matter really who won this match. It was probably handpicked by D._J.. Zero far as we've been told who was handpicked by Jay Z. Make for a lot of sense he wins he wins. That's cool <hes> he. They were all due to a really good at doing that. Just it was it was it was it was a really good match to have right before the intermission to yep so then we had the the intermission and I hope to see deranged back as much possible real Jalen. I'll take that everybody in that match that can come back should be like earl great well flip. He'll be back Gringo. I feel like that's obviously but at the same time I feel like he's not around as much as he he was for a while those Dobie back though yeah so yeah drain the only one left I the only thing that will keep gringo loco away somebody soups him of which I would not be shocked that happens in the next year either yeah. He's also throw this out there. I feel like he's also just one of the flat out could dudes. He's a great deal of a better way what he is a great dude like I think if he were to just show up at a show not be booked like he'd still have so much fun. Just hang out with people interacting fans like he's just being a fan yeah. He's he's really genuine like I've had like cool conversation with that. TOLD LOVE THE DUDE I ran into him. Mania Weekends Great Outta conversation with him. I like that you to botch. He's a real good do all right this took us into intermission and then we'll go to quick admission. We write back after this commercial official. Are you tired of the same old pro wrestling been check out the amazing action on Power Slam Dot TV the biggest indie pro wrestling channel in the world. Get over four thousand <music> hours of the best pro wrestling events from over one hundred ten of the biggest names in the industry dome over fifteen countries around the globe. Get your free trial today at Power Slam DOT TV and we're back and the second half was fucking stacked. I don't know like the the first half was a little shaky with some of these matches but the second half fucking delivered and we started off with Joshua Bishop versus Matthew Justice for the A. W. in Tez Championship Holy Shit who wants to start aw man so I knew I think Matt Justice might have been the one that tweeted this but I thought it already at that point that Matt Josh were stealing the fucking show whether it be vis Matin Josh or the other Matt Josh and this Matt Josh told fucking show now this this might be Josh Bishops fucking year like he from Mania Ania to this two of my favorite matches this year in wrestling in general have been Josh Mishit matches. He's fucking beasts. Pun intended also can fucking Wang at the show screaming jet for Justice and Bishop out after ten way because we're not in like the same kind of Jim. His voice doesn't Echo as much. I didn't know where he was. I couldn't hear him. He was there. I I've seen them or he was yelling like ice seen him but I never heard him and that's what got me kind of behind where I was so I could hear him like yeah about Karma. He was always like kind of like behind our section but still like how that Jim was set out like you know you fucking. I think he could hear him anywhere well. Yeah I mean that Jim was all just like concrete and plastic bleachers. Now we're in a room. That's going paneling and some other you know whatever the ceilings made out of some sort of basement yeah yeah so yeah his you know Shit doesn't Echo as much but he was definitely there man. This match was just a brutal motherfucker as predicted yeah. Let's let's just talk about it. Joshua Bishop wins via crucifix bomb onto a share your new intense champion Joshua Fuck and bishop yeah. How about that time for this Evans agreed? I think to like like you mentioned stacy about two top matches so far this year you know four months into it has been Joshua Bishop of the two which one if we said like all right end of the year right now match of the year or which one you putting Greenie okay I I'm. I'm leaning that way right now to then. Is that like my favorite magic year so far that fucker slid into like my all time somewhere damn wow like that's. I really really really really fucking like that match a lot <hes> this match was great. Though this was I these two could fight for the rest of the year on every show. I'm fine with it from now through Christmas just Gogo. Can it be get sick can be said that one of the best things to happen to Josh Bishop in the past gear was the falling apart of no consequences yeah for sure sure that can be said. I think I think benefited a lot of those guys I think being in no consequences also benefited a lot of those guys tags at the end it was it was a different thing than what the production you know what I mean and later the production was the thing that you could see going on going forward. The no consequences was more of a thing of convenience to to get all those guys together we end if it works it gave them all ways to get experience and immature now. Some of them are doing crazy. Shit like Josh Bishop as great than we have well. Also you know trailer barred. You'd Guess Chase Oliver when when he returns from injury because that was really starting to pick up a little bit of steam of just those two I would assume that those two would just pick up where they left off. Once chase can wrestle again <hes> but in the meantime Todd Lamar is doing things like winning this fucking scramble on this show Yeah Stone Yeah I I think having been in that group benefited all these guys and I think not being has benefited the ones that are currently around the neck and the only one minute. We haven't really seen heard much from but there's reasoning behind it is Gary Game baller yeah. He's busy. You know stuff yeah for those who don't know just touch on it lightly as he has <hes> <hes> schooling outside of wrestling that has taken priority right now so so if you want have been wondering where he is that where he is he's making sure that he's not going to be broke wrestlers yeah pretty much and what I've heard he's good at it. These grades so more power to him. I definitely miss him. I've thought he was a I don't say great character but he was really coming out of his shell of what we saw when he first started and that's what I was enjoying seeing like when he would cut a promo it was just this tougher side and I was like Oh this. This is really good. I like it but man Josh Bishop Joshua Bishop Holy Fuck Shit Josh Bishop <hes> I. I don't know that there's a U._C._l._A.. On that kid right now like I feel like you could be the next like star comes out. I've put it between him and dom and it's like it's between them. There's thumb's got a head start for sure. Eh Dom just had that awesome announcement about w w like there if we were to have like ranking of all the A._A.. W students from the beginning like this one into right now we're not are willing does something the other manages the topic <hes> yeah. I think there's there's a great competition between them. I mean just that's why we saw that that great feud and I think that's not necessarily done right now. I mean well a pins been put in and that's going to be revisited. Something almost has. Asked to but like you just see professionally how hard they they're working and even outside of a W._n.. Student wise like why put them one and two because I feel like they're out there way more than everybody else. Both of those guys had a lot of a lot of success outside of add up here <hes> dom being evolve and tagged with Kevin coup and <hes> you know working all over the northeast I slash Midwest and I mean bishop has to bishop spend in Tennessee and <hes> Indiana and shit like I think it's interesting that Bishop got a belt nee I w adopted though in what we've seen outside inside of a w from Joshua Bishop is we've seen more than just regular Joshua Bishop. He had a very short run in southern underground pro as slutty cat which started off. It's kind of a joke but it turned into like a year you hear thing which that it was just Joshua bishop getting to do something a little different a little bit of Sun for him. Oh Kado so much fun. I mean I've heard Hefford people out there hating and the but it's not necessarily like a huge wjr pocket of fans it was it was fun parody of like what we have with alley cat but I don't know the fact that it also to stayed in one company was just so much fun we have anymore say about Joshua's bishop and fucking like justice was in there in there on that shit too <hes> so here's the thing I mean there's there's more to it. We just gotTa get further through this shout okay next up. We have what what turned out being between the episode in the show there were there was a change in the card. Sadly Nick Gage had a wedding to go to know more power to him but in a replacement manse warner versus Eddie Kingston instead isn't steamrolled be Oh yes hold on saw mass warner wins via Larry it to the face. I might just right in the face. I felt like the teased him and Duke not be together for much is longer and boy. That's that makes me happy I caught. I don't know if we're looking too far ahead here looking to deep into stuff but I just loved that will man's comes out. Duke always comes through the curtain. I gets booed food. Man's comes through the carton gets cheer Duke is he does and so is man's for totally different reasons as about saying put this on twitter on my personal twitter. The Duke is the best wrestling manager in all of Ohio. There are probably true. I feel like there's some out there that act like they are number one they they don't have as big of profile as big as big a company but I think the heat that do can get is just nuclear so the only address I would put on that would be and it would be the same for the other guy that I think will qualify for art technically dukes not just a manager cozy Rasul's Yeah I think when Dr Dan Works as a manager and not as a wrestler. He's a solid one be to the duke. I'll I'll give you that like I agree Duke Dr Dan or both managers so interesting comparison Nano US yeah. I think maybe it's because like Dan is newer this yeah. That's fair but he he definitely I'm not gonNA knock his essentials like he's he's reading on the joke has been made like Dr. Dan could be the duke son and it it would be believable. I could see it hard to me wants them to do that but I don't like. Just have that be like our joke 'cause. I guess that I've heard it before. I don't remember where but the comparison has been made. It makes so much fucking sense yeah. We've already got one father son tandem and yeah I mean I don't need another so yeah Manse Warner and <hes> with the Duke. I feel like they've been teasing that for a while like we're eventually going to pay off eventually not sure how soon but it's going to happen because I think it happened at the last show to the at this place mackinac where it looked like something was about to happen between manse and jock and they're like half line so I feel like they're teasing it but it's not happening right now. We'll say I feel like have Manson. A tag. Team is almost like a waste of manse right now too because he's guy go to this match him. Eddie Kingston had a fucking. We've spent this whole time talking about tooks manager. This batch was fucking great. Yeah it was it was just fucking. It was another like brutal. We'll just fucking match. I love this the first time manse his wrestle Bankston I I I would guess not they did some stuff in either way and manse one other confidence in his slipping my mind right now. That's a super excited for this because I've seen their other matches and they were all really really doing just beat nineties another for twenty minutes and it needs we still get nick gage Orissa's Eddie Kingston some at some southern point. Oh God I hope so. I just put it on the rats. Show yeah yeah sounds good to me. Yes next up. We had a match that Cayden. You didn't tell me that I forgot to post the match was happening has a book and through the results I go oh I fucked up. The next match was an Dogma Cross versus Josh Prohibition Ako Main Event of the evening a twentieth anniversary match of these these two and I'll give you a pass one forgetting because I was also real tired still yeah it was inbetween being tired and like it being this match. I was just excited to like watch. I think everyone just really excited because there's also like I didn't mention this and <hes> it was halfway my bad. I didn't take any instagram videos only because I think last time at this venue they got fucked up. They got released in like a random water because it's not great signal aw boy so the tweets can go through fairly quick but when you're trying to send out a fifteen second video and another fifteen second video another fifteen second video and a minutes worth of fifteen second videos in a row I yeah just clogs up and fuck shit up so I didn't do it. I think the first match I took a regular video and I was going to post them later. Yeah then like after that I was like now I'm not doing it so sorry anybody who was looking for that so hope I think the Odeon has better better reception it does I've been there before receptions so so yet tired and all that but Josh Prohibition Matt Cross so excited for this fucking match and the thing that I love is twenty eight years together and they go together so well like Joshua's and Russell as much but I felt like it was a smooth match and it wasn't it wasn't dragged down. How'd you guys feel about it good to see Josh Bath for the first time since absolution solution yeah? I'm pretty stained thing last week but it's it's weird not having him on shows yeah yeah I was. I was excited to see a back to especially in a mash of this caliber. You know this was another match where wear and by this point. We've all been in that room for a decent amount of time forever but this was the other match where I thought the crowd was a little dead at times yeah. It was I._R._A.. Noticeable at times here which is sad because is this match was really fucking good. I mean how does match because I'm wonder how many late I won't say non wrestling fans like how many outside fans came to this show just for Cross for prohibition. Pardon me yeah I don't know I mean you say that. It was the first time his dad ever seen him Russell Yep. That's I remember when he said that. I'm like that's fucking crazy. Yeah again how it can happen. Though man the twentieth anniversary come see me Russell. Okay fine sure I'll come but yeah that was that whole part I mean at the end of the match to not really fast forward through it but when they both got on the Mike or just goes taper they got on the Mike but Still <hes> Jaber on his daughter like I thought that was really cool and there was no matter like who won that matches it like a proud moment between friends and we did have Graham across like we mentioned earlier and I was really really happy about that. She didn't really really get involved. She took her spot which no matter where she sitting she tries to get up to the barricade now when end-all comes out but that's the only thing I really noticed armored but it was just like I said a fun back and forth between the two and she did run up to the ring. Yeah I feel bad for grandma across. You never gets to see Matt Win like us not done a lot of winning day I W in the last couple years false I think m dog one and the match and power bomb Iraq. I think you WanNa can't remember Graham across being hilarious that day. Just that does a big false. Ask a W. O. W. Ring The ad don't count it was eight in the morning should know how can you imagine show at eight eight in the morning. No no I had it's fucking ideas of maybe doing that that year and then got lugging Shit House drunk the night before it was like no I'm Gonna I'm GonNa Sleep now yeah yeah. I'm the only idiot that did it like of us. There were other idiots there yeah I've seen pictures there was it wasn't just like you. They didn't have to superimpose among other people said before said again. I did it just to live out like the fraction of a dream that used to have so fine. I was happy with that but anyway no. You're not going to justify shit. I just know why there oh trust me eat in the morning. When I woke up I was regretting it? I I don't remember what time it got to sleep. I don't remember how much sleep I got. It probably on a couple hours I ran to the gas station grabbed a bunch of monsters till I like drank that day. Dude I don't know what the angle was late for you guys on the finish for this match but from where I was sitting it looked like he brained him through that table and it was gross and it wasn't until I saw the video from other angles where I was like. Oh No fact it looks so disgusting I'm from my angle. It was so good and it was just prohibition went in via drunken driving through table which was a fantastic playoff to this match like this match bill right like it was yeah it was like a really well laid out match like had different segments to it and there was no period where they were outside and against the rails chopping each other <hes> match was great. Everybody should watch that match like get tons of other good shit that happened on the shell flying but wash this yeah. It's a great match and I fucking hope that whoever is doing the fucking g C._W.. Backyard show on the fourth of July gets these fuckers Walker to go back to the backyard as soon as they announced it or Aka you through dinner chats when I first seen it. That's the first two people came to mind like O.. J. Pros been getting in shape lately. They're having this twentieth anniversary met. Ah Come on this is whether it's them to again or whether it's euthanasia it has to happen yeah. I just like there's something poetic about those two twenty years later after being the the the literal poster boys or backyard rats to then workless G C W backyard show I feel like is it's just writes itself to eat now like needs to happen. That's the hottest chicken of summer man out how you get them by two that ship but I'm jealous wanted. Does I'm jealous every single mother fucker who gets to go you do all right. Are we ready for the main event ain't going for the gold yeah should should we go through entrance one by one Oh fuck man. We've been on your longtime already. <hes> I mean we don't have to go into details. I mean there's like this certain highlights we could stop at you know it started off with off Manse Warner and the return of Joey Vanilla which goes back to reactions pat all fucking nuts. This is also the weirdest and this is a bold bucket statement this the weirdest Joe each Nella match ever seen the full. The full length of the gotten for the goal is the weirdest Joey Gisela match. I've ever seen yeah so many things happen so many little things happened during this match catch. It's it's so good and there are things that happened that like I'm sure there are things I didn't see. There are things that people on the other side of the room wouldn't have seen like little things like when he wasn't in the ring just like the weird shitty was doing it was so good yet moment with an infant son had newborn show you punched pat. He punched other fans beaten up fans Crowley. He ran around with a spike in and <hes> did someone's entrance with them later with that. That's another highlight entrant. The big thing for view is genetics like he was having a lot of fucking fun. Yeah he was glad to be master Yeah Yeah. You looked like he was having a lot of fuck inside and you know what mania weekend you looked like. He was having fun but he looked like you like zero stress. Just having fun knows that he can do whatever plucky wants to basically quick it. Just it was great so you enter number three Eric Ryan number four Eddie only number five t money number six Zach Thomas Number seven Marino Anglia number eight. There's hi white woman nation by the way I I didn't. What was that elimination because it was me Marino okay yeah? I thought it was off the apron into the guardrail. was that a was that that one of quick eliminations or by someone else is quick okay you. I think it was the first elimination might have been. I is that entrant number eight Dr Dan and are you ain't ready entrant number nine razor fucking sharp. This might have been the biggest pop in the night. This also went with the theme of everybody for the reaction as place knots. I kinda wish he would have been twenty one because that is the number on his Jersey Yeah but that's just one if you happen here yeah. It's the fun it really fucking half and yeah dude so my favorite parts of this. We're like the genuine reaction of some of the people in the rig to the reaction razor-sharp got from the crowd were like really is going on like Joey Ella thoroughly fucking and I loved it spring greatness. You're talking. There's that picture of razor walking down the ramp. That's fucking amazing yeah seeing it so good. I don't know who took that but that was so good so happy for that too good for him and she was a quick quick yeah yeah yeah yeah he for obvious reasons but yet eliminated really quick obviously wasn't ready. Entra number ten right a read entry at writer read had a an amazing amazing like I don't know Boston crab minute. Bring them yeah there was a point where Jamila had in a Boston crab Manhattan in like a slugging choke from the other side Xiv and then also who was the third person team money or somebody came over and raked his is yeah and he was tapping out of so good before Rainer. Would he do wrong. It's time to take a power bomb through a skateboard. Yes yeah Tom that ever again. Did he get eliminated onto a skateboard. He got throat. You did a skateboard spot where you went over the top rope landed on escape or skiing at around and go back in Iraq okay because if that happened on my side of the ring he has about say it was away from us. Look like Oh we got eliminated but then he's like skating was like Okay Yep landed on Steve Org entrance number eleven dominant Greenie number twelve P._b.. Smooth Thirteen Philly Collins. I didn't realize his tell now but number fourteen in his in his fourteenth Golic for the Gold Marian Fontaine. I always get to see him in the goblet. Now Understatement Lula's one appearance here yeah we need more but still love it entered number fifteen matthew justice followed by number sixteen west Markley man and that's something. We didn't really talk about when we talked about that match but West Barclay acting as Joshua's fucking manager played a big part Josh win in that Belt Yeah Imag got a little bit of payback here he wasn't in for in and out enter number seventeen Derek director number eighteen the w intense champion Joshua bishop coming out with the belt to and this sets up those two going forward forward 'cause they eliminated themselves together brawled out of the building yep noticing a pattern with Joshua bishop in his feuds eliminating him and his opponent from the match number Nineteen Thir- store jobbers favorite wrestler her Lewis Lennon Yeah. He was in their number twenty me her bid. It's up there with razor sharp in Joey her biggest off in the evening. Okay here's the thing with this I seen him walking around like before the show but after doors open and I was like <hes> I haven't seen you in a while. Could you be a mystery entrant and turns out yeah but I wasn't sure because he could just been fucking hanging out well and so that's the thing I was. He's GonNa say because I've seen him but shows like Mount Carmel where he was just they're wrestling just hanging out not only was jerry which I don't know if we mentioned yeah it was Jerry not only come out but students brought out the old Virgil. You'll esque banner Jerry A._I.. W wrestling superstar never virgil cod forgot about <hes> God you enter number twenty one weird body enter number twenty two worldwide and Shit Number Twenty three M J F Really Enter your buddies out twenty three any only must've been counting. His lucky stars does that he was already eliminated because engineers N.. J. F. came out with sheet house. Walking around the edge the crowd Cheetos ruin cheetos people and then he ran out and he freaked out but even remember he had gummy bears and his two sites and your number of people enter number twenty four Nasty Russ and shirt number twenty five. Tim Danced Entrant Number Twenty Six bobby Beverly Andhra number twenty seven spider spider nate webb tricky tricky man's biter Nate Webb telling people he was an Indie. I mean he wasn't lying but I'm sure at some point that day was an Indie Crop Neat Web's the best he's another guy that could be on every I w show and I would be totally five hundred percent so this is where we had Joey Giannella walking around with him like all it doesn't matter it was gone for the Gold Spiderweb was walking walking around through the crowd. Just like normal whipped Joey Genoa M._J.. F- Having maybe like flashbacks from Boston New York <hes> one attracts stop playing the fucking music even it was I think he was on the Mike and he said stop playing fat boy. Yeah something I get US fucking hilarious. Can I give W._p._N.'s credit for Something Zoo anybody who sang you are my sunshine M._J.. Mania weekend sums up it was topical with the time I am really slapping glad that this crowd didn't decide that it was time this still keep that shit going. When I'm jeff came out here it was attempt it but I didn't catch on well? You're good for everybody who didn't let it catch on 'cause it's time has come and gone entrant number twenty eight Eddie Kingston Yeah and shirt number twenty enter number twenty nine fine big John Tucker. This moment is what I was laughing my ass off because like M._j.. Getting on big twins back in talking Shit I can't wait to see these together more real good and then there was a part neither really thought that was the thing and they've m._G._M.. was going to win that he was going to be the he'll winner because of fucking Thuan because he did nothing yup out have been great but we have entered number thirty we circuit to the last big reaction of the night came from thrift store jobber now little before I for those who don't know but who came out I seem this person before for the show with his gear bag and a hood up as I was scouting locations to do the interview that you hear things going to drop next week with Matt Wadsworth trying to figure place I can do it outside so here. He is trying to not be seen an icy him. It was none other than fucking Kaplan and as soon as Steve Guy Count was coming down and I knew okay twenty nine entrance Kaplan is not yet I just all locked locked is over to the Star jobber and he flipped out fucking love it their safety first Kaplan that too yep safety. I got a little showed out like book. It's no secret I'm a I'm a big Tim dot span but Tim dot stole that fucking Gimmick and they got to have like a little taste of lake <hes> throwdown. I would like to see that be a real match at some point like full full on full fucking Macha Kaplan I have I mean that was kind of brewing lascher because it was <hes> Don's donald eliminated or the stole his his heart hat and it is safety. I pose and then Danski unlimited got eliminated this time. He got limited on our side and he was like he's like I'm safety. I and I was like he was safety. I I was safety. I yeah so I mean that inbetween. Oh sorry I'll say was I always thought it was in between that or just have those tag up a safety. I I would take that to <hes>. I'll root for Tim all hardcore that I was also so happy that number thirty because I did not know the capital was in the building. I had a couple of people spoiled for me earlier. In the day that Kaplan hadn't what potato got carried out of their forgot about that earlier indie goblet and I was like do not make this fucking potato at thirty do not see he isn't on the Internet all week that he was gonna Russell after his embarrassing video ranting and raving in New Jersey and Dan. I couldn't have been happier than it was Catholic so okay in reference to that video. Let's play with play. What if game what if Okay Dave Dawson did win gone for the gold so that means he would go main event absolution with filthy? Tom lawler would that match alone. Be Worth the what we would have to go through between Gauntlet and Abso with potato the only way I'm interested in that if it's if it's a fucking I mean could be he. Don't know it if it's like shoe plate yeah. I'll take that it'll be like ten seconds long US Tom. Just you know foxwoods. Either option is okay but he wasn't in it so he didn't win. Wasn't we've got Kaplan instead those great the return of Kaplan with hope. It's a regular return like you. He was never like every show guy but boy just to have them. You know every couple of shows that'd be fantastic. He was a fun guy period like in the ring out of the ring whenever he had a match just fucking left Kaplan. I think it's hard not to gladys pops up every once in a while the last time we seen him. Was it got last year. Maybe he was added. Show eating pizza after that could be but not like working yeah. This led us to our final. Four didn't not GonNa go through eliminations that was too much to do so final four was N.. J. F. Manse Warner Joey Vanilla Ella and Eddie fucking Kingston final two was. We don't have that tweet for that was M._J.. Often Eddie Kingston. I believe it wasn't joey and it was. I'm Jackson Kingston the winner of gone look for the gold fourteen none other than Eddie Fuck in Kingston Mattia and afterwards he said he is not leaving wrestling until he wins the absolute championship and pretty much called out filthy. Tom Lawler so as of right now beating up again so as right now absolution main event or at least the absolute title match any Kingston for Filthy Taller. That's gotta be fuck do our two when was the last time <hes> absolution twenties seventeen. Whenever number that was fifth blurred to me now my burton with the numbers and remember the year for twelve twelve fifteen was ten man? I'll take that match as the main of EPA absolution talk yeah yeah just beat each other up for a while to be real fun. I it was great Eddie Kingston winning. The Gauntlet is some of the best booking I've seen in a I W jared is so good love. If you WANNA look at it like that all right any a final thoughts on this show show <hes> Golic for the gold fourteen Cayden slum show top to bottom nothing really bad on the card. Have I use as he loved the show was great on paper. I thought it was going to be long like I really thought got into. It started a little late now. This is going to be real long. It really didn't feel long like the showed it feel as long as it was <hes> and it had wasn't there wasn't with the exception of a match. I didn't watch so so I don't know how was I never saw bad match goal night so great is one of these big trump was a year so if I was grading it I would give that shit in ache. I agree with yes. Same thing thing that I always love about. Gauntlet is I'd love the end of the royal rumble matches a whole doing the same thing here not knowing who's going to win like sometimes we get real surprises. I think this one I would would lean towards surprises surprise Lewis Linden with one of the bigger ones but other people when they've won. It's you kinda see coming and it's still good but it's just leading up to absolution. I think a lot of the other shows jalen absolution in Hell on earth like the stables those are fun do but just the the mystique of absolute of Donald for the gold love it I sucker for a royal rumble style match and <hes> gone for the gold delivered take time I'm I'm going through twitter right now from from the show day 'cause that's what I've been reading the results off of. We forgot to mention the forks. Oh Yeah our the Eddie Kingston kings of Commands Warner and Eric Ryan this is the first five minutes gone and they're just like stabbing each other and not like slow stats like the fast like Stephen Aw while that's happening Joey Jamila is like in the corner slash tried to like happily the ring between the ropes like Joey sold all that shit real while while it was happening so good didn't help demands just hand a death match tonight before the show his head was already screwed up Kenzan. I believe man I saw some rough gifts from that match to did. He bleed a little bit against Kingston to yes. Yes yeah obviously yeah from probably mostly from the night before but still yeah fuck hey gruff weekend all right in the final thoughts a last minute were or your Social Media Yeah Club for we go started this the usual cave yard few on six sign also media very interesting person. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 115: Keep Their Heads Ringin With Weapons (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 115: Keep Their Heads Ringin With Weapons (Preview)

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I and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially when your name is Felicia. This is wrestling chairs. We'd like to talk about things going on the northeast. How independent wrestling seen we preview shows we review shows shows? Sometimes we even have interviews along the way. This is a preview episode for this Friday's A._i.. W Show keep their heads ringing which will be at the Odeon in Cleveland Ohio. I'm your host. I am heavy set also known as just in summers and wrestling cheers is brought to you by the trending topics network Midwest territory an key on sports. Please rate review and subscriber every listen this fine podcast whether it be apple podcasts Google podcast stitcher tune in on Youtube spotify iheartradio bobby wrestling cheers dot pie bean dot com you can find us on all your social media facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash researchers twitter dot com slash restitution instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email. If you so choose a desire wrestling ensures. gmail.com and we have the merch door over at what a maneuver that net like. I said this is a preview episode four A._M.. W keep their head ringing her head's ringing I should say and this is <hes> the annual rap show show every single year where all the matches are fought under compton rules which means there's no rules which means they'll be weapons speaking of weapons. We have Kagan I well. I have weapons probably as nine <music> who see why why why properly. Why did you say on facebook? You will probably have weapons. Maybe give people come to the show. See your number. I probably like understand the probably that's like saying. We're probably probably going to have an episode this week. Nothing not the are making anything. That's that's a lie might just show that's a lie you bringing weapons to two shows a year guaranteed. That's not counting the other shows that you happen to also bring weapons to to happen to you because I feel like making things hardcore manches. Why do you WanNa see people die? Eric Ryan that your goal you WanNa see air grind. I can't do that himself. Alphabet and it's true he doesn't really need your help and did a matthew justice. Could God also this episode. We got rick. How are you I was in the parking lot on the way in I saw pickup truck full skating does that did you come in so let one that'd be like fifty thousand? Those falls in the back in that thing did nothing with that one. If Eric Ryan ends up being on the show you know how we throw stuff in for certain wrestlers. What if we just threw in forks idea yeah? It's it's not do that. It's not as bad as my wig idea for Dr Tan. I thought that would be whereas I thought that would be funny but everybody said it wasn't so it was like a moped <hes> trying to find a way to find a bunch of like cheap <hes> wicks Chinese cheap wigs just throw him in there but it doesn't have the same nice effect as toilet paper and like there was also cheaper. Can you make wake up toilet paper in Kenya <hes> it would explode a he's like figuring out. Can I put barb wire in it and light juifs. I'm like dude this Friday. You never know next that's technically lowered but I was given permission for Erica Ryan Okay. Four four guide is a bad idea. What if we when we throw in light bulbs features is better than I would say lake twos? Can you picture a bunch of people throwing in late dupes very bad. I've seen the way to throw toilet abor would not be would not be advisable to do that. People know even the toilet paper Nelson exactly and well. That's true half half the time people throw it too early. Even though we've no we've gone this. How many times now done for years equals don't figure when to throw it anyway so we got this crazy fucking stat card just good God we were talking before the official recording and in the weakest match on the card is Katie? Be Dan Housing Linden in 'em dog but it's nothing against them like dig a Dan whatsoever. That's going to be a fucking match but could God some of these are gonna be hard hit the rest of this card and <hes> so we're GonNa go to our normal previewing format where we preview three matches and then we will get into picks for all the matches straight down the line nine and let's start with the most recently matched announced and that is to infinity and beyond versus the Philly Marino experienced four that a I W tag team championships friendships P._M.. Has Been on the rise for the past fucking here year and a half two year ever since they debuted in w bit by bit getting more popular moreover hottest tag team in a a long time coming up against the champions in P._M.. E kind of got screwed out of winning the titles recently. Could this be the night that they win. What do you think about this match Cayden? I would like to say new two extra aliens come on when you are the biggest to infinity me on fan. You're telling me that the between this toy story this year this is the greatest year ever four years of M._T._v. together no more more. They haven't been champions champions the whole time feels like it. They got beat by twins. They got beat by hot sauce entertainment. They got beat by Hot Sauce Entertainment Ascertainment on a side though what was it I it just <hes> they added like some new shows too <hes> I W TV and use the absolute to get twenty days for sure if I got a kickback from that or for we gotta kick back from that but yet the definitely I and use that one that's what I use <hes> but the <hes> something that had hot sauce entertainment on it and I was just like I miss the I miss them so much contractor ones in Canada yeah it's sad but they were just together and then right there with them. fucking to infant name beyond all the time net wasn't even the whole thing that when I'm for how long like six months didn't they have backed back matches and absolution they're supposed to and then I think the the was the last time four <hes> Tyson dukes no he wasn't there. That's what I'm saying. The second will like that was the last like I'm at strike for him. Yeah that's that's what I meant by last one my mom replace him that would have been agreed tag team to that didn't really last beating other up a couple of times and then one of them became champion didn't please ace going but I mean to infant beyond their. I say 'CAUSE I. I Love Colin but I wanted a tank team. I can't pretend we hate very hectic. Glint this constant title rain is it no egg just went to see someone different tag champs and have it stay that way for more than three odds when you think about this metric. I don't know if either one of you so most recent promo that billion Marino we know <hes> just put out referencing this match blood. I'm going to have to agree with Philly Collins in this one where he just simply says fuck you Colin and Cheech because the boys are tired of getting screwed over voice retired getting passed by. They're ready for their time. They're ready for their recognition there as sick of Colin inch each as the rest of us are and the good times good vibes thing goes so far. I think they're just ready to blow. Woah Colin Blow Up Cheech get rid of put him on the shelf for awhile and take their belts them hoping that that happens at the rap show anything goes you know you could go an eye for an eye with dirty garbage wrestling tricks that good old kitchen column might use and Cheech. You need to bring that shirt for PAT. You said that you're going to according to him but bring that R._V.. Issur this happens this would be the the show showed do it to be the rap. Show probably wears the ringling dickhead. He asked ear God damnit. I've singer column each each. I'm fine with Colin and cheese but mate like I could deal with them and has not been tactic champ. I think that's all I've frigging Love College. He's up so sick <unk> being hard to read like they stayed around still tagged but just going for the title. It's like not necessarily the warrant tag chance yeah like I would liken it to the fact that most of the time I was ahead W. Fan. I rarely seen Gargano in a absolute title match because he had kind of surpassed it so he was in other matches working with other wrestlers. Can we get the same thing with college each like I love them but they need the ballots twenty four seven no Colin can be Jalen and cheats single. Go find cloudy. He's somewhere New York. I've always does he still russell. Who Cares go find him on the way back? Grab your shirt. Bring it to some of its. I'd figure Cayden cared because I was one of his his because the rivalries cloud is actually real to Beckley. I was at cloudy brisk mix the next one of my list all started with Ethan page. Actually we'll find let that happen yeah. I'd probably brought a sign and evening. Why Getting Yell at me Oh yeah I mentioned before remember going W. for seven years right around the time of this recording that's true? I think I'm about seven half you were the couple months Eddie on it but six I was hell on earth exactly six months so more say about tag title match. I really wanted to be pm e but a new kind of forget to these are going to be have the combat roles match. Yes we don't know how into these what if what if he just had a bunch of tag teams come out and help Ame win this turns into <hes> four-way scramble for the votes of we have that forever. Maybe I missing. Something did what mainly weekend no not that. That's not what I met. I meant the I know. You're talking about yeah. This match was this match scheduled between these two people and then other people come out and it's like well. They're added to the mets now to twenty eleven era. I think the last time we seen it was twenty taught in two thousand twelve roughly facade versus Colin. I think Fontaine came out or somewhere with twenty twelve. I think just yes Aramco twenty to me. Was it rep show Yup yes you. You are correct because <hes> go back and watch that I think I've mentioned it. Watch what Fontaine says right before he leaves. It's a precursor a teaser to what's going to happen with his character going in jail it when he bring when he invents the the all wrestling character and even the early day the character it more really fine yet even early on when he debuted in twenty twelve like he still had more work to do to it but still great still oh great he wasn't doing that ever. No it was like an A._i.. W exclusive type thing a. w. and then old I think when one cent will I'm I think when prime shutdown that was like that was the end of the Megastar still sad ed about it brought me to while him anyway. Let's let's get into the next night. Random and other knowledge always four trust me we miss when you're we miss when you're not even on the part of the <unk> <hes> the episode for an interview for <unk> writer recall you out wondering where when you were knowing that certain facts or something. I believe it was right read. I can't remember though blending together anyway. I'm wrestling encyclopedia. The young Houston's emails outside of wrestling the youngest useless replica encyclopedia <hes> let's move onto the intense Seidel match Joshua Bishop versus Matthew Justice in the the upset that some of us the necessarily see coming at Gauntlet for the Gold Joshua bishops a new W intense champion dodger whereas my body in the mail call these things I know I know be works. ANTUNA started booking Rhonda Company so Cayden what <hes> demonic devices do you have prepared for this match off. You'll see 'cause if if any match on this card was going to have weapons this is the top I'd say top three. Maybe top one but I have to others tie top one top one okay. I also kind of had Johnston. Dom maybe maybe the chairs. Maybe he's going to do a die. They're glass matches very calm in comparison to what this is going to be towed you already know yet. Ashore is just stirring up. No disqualification and fans are encouraged to bring weapon her a fantasy encouraged to bring many weapons. We don't ever give Russell Credit. Do we know which one is more sick brings tack fat's Egan's credit for poppers being thing now <hes> shrew <unk> Steve India horrific explosion bat a glance minute an idea because we couldn't bring stuff made wrestlers believed Jewish said duo people instead. If you've had tax you've had poppers bottle caps <hes> obviously light soups. That's a pretty pretty big. One debut in mouse. She's Stop Damien should never be altered restful <hes> lighter fluid and fire. I that's a given that should be voted. Deep debt very far away to Joshua Bishop speaking of the Smith Joshua no lighting people on fire bishop. You've no justice O'Brien's go with Oh how cod twenty two people firefly's is okay will fire being this match. We have recently both competitors have used or attempted to use fire. Oh boy I didn't even think eh what do you think rick. What do you think rick no fire for the love of God no fire? Why not I I know because I don't want to be in one of these little concert clubs of somebody decides the light the damn place on fire all great white all over the place? It's it's no stopped. If you saw the video of John the Ethan Page took of John Thorns face at Russell Raver when the table got lit on on fire. They said well we just burnt. We just lost another venue. We got we got jailed. Let it at the audience. We have to be on our best behavior on Friday so we get to keep Jalen right where it's at guys don't need fire cadence got enough. You've got to cause who is the venue tax and forks Turkey base tres. This guy's got everything it's my fault. If we moves the venue me yeah syringes and no mm syringes that's those catheter things go full mountie and bring the cattle prod. Oh my Gosh Skull Anita seven exploding rain. Let's go. I don't know what's wrong with you but whatever ever news boorda since he bring weapons today or someone meditative spot no no one has to you chose someone has to do. I think just as ambitious can think of enough things to do to each other without a plethora of weapons justices the state champion so canes go to show up with a pitch for Satan champion needs fire being <unk>. That's true will carefully might actually kill someone now. I want about murdered. Someone demand anymore thoughts on this match. His match was gonNA. It's going to be dumb and all the right reason yeah if you're standing if you're in the front row just public service service announcement to move get out of the wet unless you're me and you're dumb it. Just don't move in danger apartment justice last year. It wasn't a fund. I have a fever of Matthew just 'cause I was at what Jalen yes tonight one night to whatever we got into what he almost got into one of those spots you just got up was like nope. NOPE nope Nope Nope I still do just we're not doing this anymore. Not as small man don't try to divine to police. It's fun very breakable. Stale knows justice. Might I take after Jamila punching fans at the last the last bit you might be high up on the list there. Can you better watch yourself sign up for this. I sit front row yeah. We've all taken. Her pumps improves to sit in front row and the longer longer you're. In front of the more likely something's GonNa Happen. I think for the ones it's a little bit of a badge honor Kate has his Cayden has his get kicked in the face moments heavyset. I know you you've got kicked to the base by people all right <hes>. I've I've had a couple. McDonald's kicked in the face. The one that I remember clearly was Kenneth Ray Dune across body to Joey Genoa right in front of me and I have a video of it and it's like you you see like the boot hit me right right and Chaz. She felt sorry about it's fine. I was just committing to get the video I paid for it. I our entire group in the old God. We just lost summer's gone again. I still have by I I still have my fucked up to- from Jordan landed on me and broke it at home when he wrestled Laredo. Oh Gosh fucking night sucked so yeah. She said from her Fi. You're listening to this and you haven't. It's yeah well head on civil. <hes> I think one of my favorite ones Kevin he <hes> one of the front row fans. This was back in terms holiday. He was like betting over like pick something up out of his bag and somebody I don't remember the match nothing someone came towards the the guardrail and his the guardrail hit his head like that saw. It's fun to laugh about now because it's obviously because he's fine but at the time it was like Oh shit you got a concussion like shit. I remember that actually well. Yes Steele guardrails aren't fun now matched if W had no guardrails and there was one of those companies that decided to do that yeah heads better. We have them because alcohol reasons mania mania was bad enough sitting in the front row Janatha all those frigging maniacs going it was terrifying. I was watching all of them. Someone's No one's GonNa get in the ring if they did that. Somebody would probably want to get the ring because you don't have to worry about jumping guardrail guardrails not there instead you just try to climb in the ring. It's yet to accessible hit. Your needs on the side of Sir Twenty Times. It's not fun all right. Let's get into the third match. We're GONNA preview <unk> stick with title matches because hey all the real well then all three title matches around the card. We have the A it w absolute title match filthy Tom Lawler with his first title defence versus Manse Warner these fantastic I title defence I until now I've forgot that this is going to be content rules rules. You're GONNA have the Duke Ringside the flux going to happen. What do you think Rick <hes> hopefully at some point in the match Tom Lawler get his hands on the duke because we all WanNa see that <hes> because fuck the duke? Nobody likes that guy but I can't fuck them to bed because he has somewhere to be on Saturday. No I'm okay with it. He he can come limping into that place. <hes> manses completely over with the w faithful Amine we frequent love man's and I would venture to say the most of US freaking love lawler as well it. It's interesting because it's one of these ones where man's can can wrestle yet and man's can do the crazy shit like that. You know the Nick Gage breaking light tubes the staple in your your face to somebody else to me or or whatever the hell that that stuff all was. We've seen lawler. Do some crazy stuff with Tom but he's more of a you know US himself as a weapon Kinda guy or harrap is rabs arms around your neck and squeezed till your head pops like ze it so. I don't know what I don't know what style we're going to see. I you know I don't know if we're GONNA see baller. Use weapons on the man's. Try to wrestle them so it's it's a big question mark to me but it's all I know it's GonNa be forget fantastic. What are you kidding? There's more turn into a fight. It's going to be on don't get me wrong again. There's a factor of the weapons to and there's also duke factor which has been brought up. Man's is coming off the momentum beating Kingston at Gauntlet which you WANNA callistus. He's technically the first person outside of Otani to be Kingston Year so that's something at well yeah Azazel be a war and rightfully so with these two fucking competitors filthy. Tom Is just that dude who is downright bad ass and he's been an ad w faithful his whole time he hasn't been here as as long as you would think what our at two three years to two years. That's not really that log if you WANNA think about it view two years champ in two years and then becoming champion who who else has taken that fucking road even page. He danced the only to the I think yeah I think I'm just thinking of previous absolute champions. I'm not even counting the other ones I guess you could be within the first year or so maybe one or the other ones with absolute. I even think Alexander it was a lie. What about what about <hes> <hes> we just talked about him pot sauce but though I think I was a little bit over two years I was closer to free? I think that was or maybe even longer because he was he was tagged tagging awhile to like eating when about all last year debuted in twenty fifteen so happy just dunston page which I mean that's good company to be in. That's I meanwhile you title range for those two those to the most. They're both three-time think see this is where we need the other Encyclopedia Wadsworth. I'm going to fact check myself. Hold on a second but I'm pretty sure it is three but I just need to cutting going back to what you're saying. Rick the thing is about like man's. He's been over as Fox since day. One the incoming day w like I'll never forget the show that he debuted and he was over almost instantly and it's been the same ever since men's gets over wherever he goes. I haven't seen bad reaction. Demands Warner anywhere on any of these indies tell even M._S._w.. Where people may or may not now who he is? He's just he's. He's over everywhere. I he deserves it. I mean he's Oh yeah forget great manses. I would probably say top. I'm GonNa say just throwing on thinking about like top three. There might be more the top three like instantly loved wrestlers and I'm I'm putting him up there with space monkey and as a tag team putting them as one P._M.. E I've never I've never seen a bit like the one in particular that I've I've seen them debut in two different markets besides w and people just fell over them instantly so I don't I don't. I don't think that happens many especially especially at W.. 'cause there's been a lot of times when we had this has been talked about. Where like Keeton? Can you remember when Josh Alexander debuted in. It was Kinda like we don't know if we like you or hate. You just get walls like show us what you've got and then I like that first match because I agree wash next show recently it would be like this nice golf clamp type reaction for yeah I think at the end of the match like he proved all right good guys awesome like Clap Ethan page two eight to use those together because how connected the debut thing like three or four months at each other yeah but I'm saying with Ethan page. It was kind of the same thing him coming out girls night out show pre show match against Eric Ryan and yeah that's against grind match was what announced the day you before or the day off day before yeah. It's what I was thinking. I started following early so I can't tell you about the match announcement but he was another dude like instincts of okay. We'll see what you got. He and he came with a lot of confidence and by the end of the match might look at now with W fucking well loved and it's got on from there on every waited mode. I was correct. Both Don's in even are three time absolute champions and that's the most yet no one else is real through even Komo's everybody's at one one or air grind has to okay <hes> so filthy stonewaller and man's Warner. It's going to be fun what I'm going to be tired thought by the time that match goes but fun nonetheless all right. We're going willing to go into a quick commercial break. Be Right back and we're going to go over the rest of the car. Are you tired of the same old pro wrestling than check out the amazing action on Power Slam Dot TV the biggest indie pro wrestling sling channel in the world get over four thousand hours of the best pro wrestling events from over one hundred ten of the biggest names in the industry over fifteen countries around the globe. Get your free trial to date at Power Slam DOT TV so let's start off with the first match announced Lucho brothers versus the boys from Jolly Ville Voegeli buckets nasty bras. I'M UH-HUH WANNA call nasty narrate but nasty Ross and T- money good <hes> this is definitely one of those shows that you start off with a bang. We knew the literal brothers. We're going to be in a match and you just announce it against the fuck. It's this do talk about brutal and last time we seen Pentagon junior and W was one of my favorite openings of a match ever he comes out and then he waits by the entered for railroad come out and he kicks his ass and it's just nothing about a fight from there on so now we're getting. tag-team fun. Who Do you got one in Rick a loser brothers coming in there? Those boys are all over the place. They got the big fat contracts. They're gonNA. They're going to be the winners. How about you kidding? Yeah Yeah I have. It's easy to sang for jolly down fantastic match west participant gladys phoenix getting a shot. I know you fly away not putting that like he's new or anything but I'm glad he's going with Flannigan and this time Yup. I'm going to have to go through your brothers to there's no way you you lose a match one week before dubber nothing next up. We have what's really interesting match. 'EM J. F. F- Maxwell Jacob Friedman Versus Josh Prohibition who radio in this Cayden all can go probation. He's on his return Ron now after be off for off <music> off wrestling for quite a while how about you rick I I see it the other way <hes> M._j.. F- Has the X. factor in a gentleman name big Thuan Tucker who is now taking me a <hes> bodyguard role of 'em Jaffa over in a I W I think with Compton rules that enes to on one so M J F gets both these guys but n j f kind of an Ana an old man beating tour so. I think he's going to binge April next up we have K._T.. Be Versus Dan housing versus Lewis Linden versus. 'em Dog Matt Cross. I'M GONNA start off this one. I'm I'M GONNA go Kay T._B.. Eric I was going to go K._T.. Be as well but I think we should spread out our money on this one a little bit. I'm GonNa Take Mat Cross that cross you know took the loss to prohibition <hes> this this might be as something for him to prove so let's we'll cross have. Are you kidding me. Go with Dan House and I was going to pick Dan Housing but I duNno Katy B between the time we all pick three different people in a floor away the one we didn't pick one so congrats Lewis Linden on winning the match next up. We have ten dollars versus Dominic Greenie. This is a match that we almost talked about and I'm looking forward to this one last time I said I was looking for Tim downs match but Don's versus Greenie. I'm GONNA GO Carini. Who Do you got caitlyn Jenner? Go with Greeny. This is going to be wrestling match one hundred percent for two noti youth thing. They're going to wrestle so donnas wrestling. Who Do you got down to you? Got Rick undercounted rules. Dominic needs some damn shoes because there's GonNa be enough stuff that canes already got in the rain at this point that he's going to need to to avoid that notwithstanding. I'm going to take dominic next up. We have nick gage versus Eddie fucking Kingston. If you WANNA know our in depth thoughts on this match go back to the last preview episode with we preview this match ended well it didn't happen because negage was at a wedding so instead of getting it then we get it now. We get it under compton rules so there's someone might actually guy. I'm GonNa go oh with Eddie Kingston. Who Do you got rick? I do not bet against the king therefore I will take Nick Gage. I mean they're both kings into specify which won the King Nick Gage not go any that that all the mad king mad mad king yes sheriff diamonds whatever King King of running children over with his car. Who Do you kidding go kingston role again before absolution next up the A. W. Tag team championship match to infinity beyond versus the Philly Marino experience tell them wrong long to infinity beyond winds at O. L. Cayden Yeah so who's that does he knew tag chance doubt about uric fuck you Collina Elena Cheech P._M.? E Win next up. We Have Joshua Bishop Verses Matthew Justice for the A._I.. W intense title a rematch from last month I'm GonNa continue on with the of an reign of the new champion Joshua Bishop and of course we ought to point out to that there's a new graphic for for Joshua Bishop and what he did yeah bishops regaining he's not assessed as the Matt to Justice Thurgood kill each other for a couple more months eric. It's all about the X. Factor maserati Berkeley helping bishop to retain next up. We have filthy. Tom lawler versus man's Manse Warner for the a I W absolute championship. I gotta go filthy. Tom Who'd he got rick. Well I am going to I mean. I don't WANNA pick against Tom lawler but I think it's all going to come down to Eddie Kingston at absolution taking on Manson Warner for the title Psalmody. I'M GONNA say man's polls. The upset here cade. I'm saying lawler retains be fantastic. Advance wins of not gonNA complain about to add one because my answers a star. They don't see that happening right. That's I believe we got all the match. That's the pick all the picks for this Friday. Show keep their head with ring and from a I W as Friday may seventeenth length seven thirty bell time at Odeon and <hes> yeah this is going to be all the matches earner competent rules any final thoughts are last minute plugs about the show or whatever <hes> start with cayden nothing north different than usual cave e._R. to one six on whatever social media use or care to follow me and I may go wrestling gifts sometimes have a uric. We are going to have some fun at a I W on Friday we are going to have some fun at U.. X. W. A. on Saturday. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 112: We Werent Ready For Gauntlet For The Gold 14 (Review)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 112: We Werent Ready For Gauntlet For The Gold 14 (Review)

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Sometimes you want to go where everybody you you you <music> and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially when the lobby smells horrible this is resting shares were to talk about things northeast how independent wrestling scene we preview shows we really shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way. This is a review episode of last Friday's A._I.. W Show Gauntlet for the gold fourteen. I'm your host. I am heavyset. Please rate reaon subscriber every listeners fine podcast whether it be apple podcast Google podcast at your tune in Youtube spotify iheartradio Padre and resting Cheers Dot pod bean dot com you can find us on facebook twitter and Instagram facebook dot com slash rousing cheers twitter dot com slash rush and cheers and instagram dot com slash resting cheers email if you so choose desire wrestling cheers at gmail.com and we still have the merced or over at what a maneuver dot net like I said this is a preview episode review repeating that review episode of A._W._S.. Going for the gold fourteen and this week I have cayden house going on these episodes a lot now yeah you even made a comment to me that about coming back fulltime time works. I do that and then you'd be like I got shit to do like okay. Now I do nothing my wife outside a wrestling and I also have stacy who was also on the show a lot lately. I like that we have a nice back and forth dynamic of your household Bekker's Pam being on the show here true true she can. She handled the the preview show and I'm here for this like. It's a tag team all right your turn INS <music> slap okay yeah anyway we had gauntlet for the gold fourteen <hes> like I mentioned in the opening if you got to stay on that lobby good God hottest that horrible man I'll be honest. I really like an I'm sure this happened for every person who walked into that lobby but I walked in and then my head I went man smells like bedbugs. Somebody's smart me up with a minute to the LEGO. No the building smells like gap this. It's not a I. I thought more basement that damp moldy musty basement. That's the that's the smell smell. I was getting but I I did hear other people to say captives so I get it but to me it was just baseman. The fact that there's there were things in that lobby that kind of look like like an an older basement like in the fireplace and everything yeah just an every time I'd have to walk through there it just it was always bad. I would never walk through them like Oh like. It's lightning up. No it's still smells like garbage. Yeah you know I I was in there long enough like in the in the room where the show was avenue. I wasn't there long enough that I forgot that the lobby smedley cap this. I was like oh I'm going to use the bathroom and as soon as I hit those doors I was like aw locker okay well this and then I think what the water damage to every time I'd go from carpet to a Nolan trying to go to the restroom like my feet would slide a little bit like not necessarily like about the slip and fall that I was just like Oh shit. Oh No I was about to slip a fall. I'll move -ship shit in front of Matt Crosses Grandma. That's great. I mean great that you didn't but that's funny too yeah I would assume she would've laughed and that would that would have eased the pain of doc breaking my ass but yet no going off that carpet into that back hallway not a fun time. No what did you think about this kate and you were there the longest or one of the longest. I just try not to not a good time that was it kind of like summer. Mount Carmel shows where you're kind of like going in and out of like all right I gotta get Outta the smell go out into the fresh air kind of like what we do at like I said at Mount Carmel or it'd be like all right. He's getting really hot. In here. I gotta go outside in the hot air to you can also compare to absolution to end all I've I've know I've mentioned many times the smartest thing I ever did it that show is I never walked outside so I just stuck duck with it the whole night but then soon as I walked out like it felt so good I swear I chugged a gallon of sweet tea afterwards in that was death. This one wasn't nearly as just anybody who ever ever bitched about that fish fry smell at Akron now no no. That's no. That's nothing the set a new bar that I even have an issue with the fish fry smell none. I don't either but I I'd be real. I have heard people when they're I'm sure but after we finally got out of the lobby and in the show we go into the review part of the show was we started off with a match that it was not advertised but may have gotten spoiled for people we had Lee Moriarty for stray Lamar versus Louis Lyndon Versus Wheeler Utah versus facade versus Zach Thomas as facade has called himself itself. He's the king of the W scramble matches at outside of Jalen. I don't know in the last time he had a singles match. I think you said it's been like three years twenty seventeen. It was against Alex Daniels. Why hat that was at that was our show yep manner show? I remember that I believe no that was not issue. I was saying that is incorrect. I believe that ah did that main event or now no okay the women's title match main event at toys travel stuff yeah. That's now's the last time we seen. I think that's less time we've Seen Zoe sky. No it might have been the last time you did. She worked winchester. Show yeah this last one not one before Oh yes yes. I totally forgot about that. I remembered out yet because that was when we we trying to do we did we did do cat toys does that talk show and wrestler too well that got ruined wrestler ager was putting the wrong person in charge of it and they just gave it to so not anybody under the bus but that was I don't what was bad with that one. I took charge of the timeless last time that we throw a matter but anyway plea started off with the the scramble match and training memory he does have this match fun little opener. Not the crowd awake. I I like any time we get to see like almost all these dudes and a match like Wheeler Yuda I wish wish he was on every ad of show that dude's fantastic pretty close to average shown how which yeah I wanna see like not to pair it. What facade said I understand why these six-way matches are on the shows the I I would like to see some of these guys in singles matches like we got wheeler Yuda in a singles match once? It was great Linden yeah fantastic yeah I would. I'd love to see that dude versus facade or that dude versus Trey your versus Lee Moriarty Year you know any combination of these dudes in singles matches would be rad. Maybe Jalen will give us some of that but yeah this is fine for what it was great but it was a good way to start the show Zach Thomas now as God. He's rolling with that now apparently yeah hey man. It's better than his old music. I like that it trolls roles people. I'm Kinda cool with yeah. That's actually probably one of my favorite kiss songs but it was because I realize like Oh this is what has those theme from awesome and in someone actually using them like fuck why not sure better than his old music. You know a hundred percent I also agree it's great to when we see you know like more of the minority <hes> we'll you'd I second that one one mean Trey and Zakar pretty much tables and you had the old older school staples of Louis Lyndon facade. Look if you're GONNA if you're gonNA open especially when the scramble glad no issue with it <hes> trae Lamar got the win via what Cayden put down as a headlock driver I turn my head for two seconds and missed it so don't yell at me he didn't he yelled at me so I even told them on my dude Cayden did it and he I will correct myself years. They snap hairdryer next next up. We had N J F versus the Franchise Shane Douglas Douglas didn't really take notes on the the Promo back and forth but kind of your usual N. J. F. of you know tearing down his opponent and especially someone who was a legend and Shane Douglas coming back gout and talking. I thoroughly enjoyed that whole part <unk>. N._J._S. is really good at what he does like understatement. We should all be real happy that we're getting all this time j w because that you is amazing at what he does like he's reading the contract yeah yeah. There's there's a real reason does that. It's going to be a star like a big a big clock and star at eighty. W assuming everything goes right for that company he's he's Rian fucking good. He's going to be in W._W._e.. In a few years according to him Reichen did he say two years so next summer will be the moment of truth East silent. Everyone check them so far good job. Can you imagine if you went to impact. I can't imagine anybody's going to impact I mean they got Josh Alexander and he's back to the states so hey man I'm happy for that and I'm an impact fan. I just it's rough these days how high it was good for a little bit. It's just you know. What is right now? The roster's good though the roster's great rosters fantastic. Hey does need to have a stable T._V. or they don't lose it. After a month and a half yeah somebody gave me a new way to watch the stream dream so I don't have to watch their awful twitch we'd better <hes> but as it's supposed to be on the new APP or now who knows I have. I haven't looked at anything about that. Well I think as of this recording I think tomorrow's tomorrow's when the new impact will impact plus. Why are you doing Disney? Impact plus is going to be doing so by the time this comes out. It'll be after the point was suppose it's GonNa be on every platform which is something. I think it's kind Nicole because not every promotion does that. I don't know here's my thing like the W._w._e.. has there at right now and there are so many subscription things that you can get now. There's high spots. There's <hes> the independent wrestling DOT TV. There's there's that other one that you have a commercial for T._v.. Cheap look now. There's this impact one and it's just so editors new Japan and there's all Japan and like this to the to fuck emeny at the end to fucking meant pretty much arresting a streaming service this point or you're on streaming service. Everybody can't just have an over the top like it's not gonNa work. Everybody's not going to be successful with that either like it's I mean everyone. Each of these companies needs to carve out their own niche instead of just like copying what was successful for the biggest one. That has nothing to got gold. I'll just throw it out there because I said before my biggest issue with new Japan why they don't have an APP on every platform that I find annoying yea I mean maybe it's because it's Japanese based in the translation adult. I'm sure there's a logical reason for so F._i._F._A.. Shane Douglas it was fun and like the match was fun. There was the surprise of the turn of Thuan Tucker. was there an official break-up of of woohoo Gombeen forgetting the name hardy never ends Friday. We never ends yeah Kef wanting to say hello obey the duke now. That's not technically maybe at you ex. W A sort of into Barr show I think yeah I guess there was some of it at the Var show that's kind of where it was just like at all right. We're done because basically Parker Pearson's with Dan now yeah that's about say that they've both gone in different directions though the dynamic of N. J. F. Thuan like we we see more of later in the night. I fucking love it yet. I who whoever came up with that idea good on you because it's it's real good. It's it's a really good. How about you kidding? This was just fun little match E._C.. W tile crowd brawl stuff to the crowd for a minute there was nothing insane but it was very enjoyable. Shane Douglas US you know he's of a certain age which he can do certain things. He did. All those things good. It was cool. Say Again I was. I was shocked at how good francine still looks to be honest like she does not look like she has aged as poorly as many others from her generation Asia the I'll I'll give you that you could like see the aging but not as poorly yeah. There's some that just a horrible so N.. J. F. ONE FRA after assistance from big Tucker is the best way to put it that was in many in many lengthy speech by Shane Douglas Yeah He. I think that's his thing is because he did the <hes> the bar show too that he did the surprise showing it like every time I'd seen him wrestle. He has done that so I can confirm this thing. That's fine cool. It's just a little one with five. I couldn't complain plane too much about it the first time because we did get free pitchers he didn't charge yeah so was he charge. What would they charge in this time? I didn't go over four same Dino Kate unusual. I think it might have been twenty yeah. I'll I'll have to ask someone day I didn't I'm trying to remember everything that I spent money on the one thing that I made like literally I darted for through my shit down and I ran to an dog and I bought one of the best backyard guard wrestling posters through. I'm so mad at myself so here's what I did I got high and then I went in and I got my seat about about during this match during the show I went oh wow flutter backyard wrestling odors nope not anymore. They know I thought he they still had some intermission. I didn't see him. I looked outside. See any intermission damn like I walk over and they weren't there so what you're telling me you were going to get a poster but then you got high pretty much yeah. That's yeah that's pretty much it yeah. That was the like I said. The one thing I darted for always have always been a lot of times. They'll be that one thing I want throw my shit down and I make sure I get like other Chandler biggins memorial shirt that they did I threw my shutdown ran there and that was like one of the few people to like snag my size and I think they saw that one really quick so fucking. Eh Yeah skipped my fucking mind man as bumped. I it was forty bucks. Hey man where you're gonNA find another holiday. That's the exact thing I thought of 'cause I like all it's it's GonNa be about twenty or something like forty. I'm like yet mom not getting one anywhere soon so here. Here's Twenty Bucks Forty Bucks. The only thing that I forgot am kicking myself in the ASS. I meant to bring my P._S.. Two game of of best of backyard wrestling and have them signed because I have like three different copies of that cover signed and then the poster when the good news there is. I'm pretty sure you'll see Josh Matt around but those posters did you know those are. You'RE NOT GONNA go sound that anything. It's funny that you say that because all but the first D._V._D.. That I bought like that I haven't had them personalize. It and personalize doesn't and he makes that comment like like I don't WanNa see it on Ebay and I'm like no dude is going from my personal collection like I don't sometimes I think some things look cooler without the personalization like that like it's like an eight by ten five personalized but it was on the one impose on the wall it give or take that one of my ads like J. Pro at already signed. It sounds like just to have you signed it normal yeah. I you know I'm sometimes I care sometimes. I don't care if it's something I know I'm never going to want to get rid of. I don't care you're like I Texas. chainsaw shepherd signed to me that I'm real glad is I have stuff. That's not that's fine yeah. I think it looks like right now. In My side I got a like a football like signed a bunch of you know eighty-six browns and like it's that personalized at all but I 'cause I think when I think of autographs I think something like that where it's just signed great. I'm like I've never gonNA saw that football. I'M NOT GONNA sell that poster like I don't even know if I've ever really thought about like if I get something autographed like I like this person. Even they like eight by tens that is more like a collection of having those two Solano right anyway over just snatches them for a while but we're starting trying to get into the next match we have law Familia de Tijuana versus to Infiniti Cam beyond for the a w tag team championships forgot that actually put that in the the tweet but maybe these fuckers and L._l.. Infant and beyond ones yeah. I can't tell you anything about this match. I went to the the cat piece Mellon bathroom it happened. That's about not the Best Not Daig Ancient Colin. Hey man you you you know they're both of those guys are fine wrestlers much as I dig them. Usually I do not hate. It's an hate them either. Just as match was just not good. No it was not and they tried to make it. It just didn't work. I would imagine I I didn't see it yet to infinity beyond retained via roll up which kind of what I expected wow rolled up that's up hard ass miniature finisher. I mean does is to infinity and beyond lose the titles before toy story four comes out. They just don't use them ever. They're going to have until toy story. Five what happens I they lose the belts where you actually gives that R._V.. De Sure I think they lose my money's on the titles yeah yeah you can lose the titles. I never get shirt. That's funny story. Have you hurt past episodes. It's mentioned that <hes> Pat once teaches R._v.. D for twenty chart didn't even wear wrap show last year now. The REP show's coming up. I know last year I think he wore it on said show but what what I'm saying is like maybe he'll wear. Bring it to that show we'll add but last year the rapture was actually on four twenty match true. I still felt as your everything's off now. I still thought that show should have been either Friday or up in smoke. Okay next up we have the final match the final North American match of deejays e- It was flip Kendrick deranged Gringo Loco and the man himself d._J.'s Z.. This match was really good. Neha it rules as I said definitely the right participants and we had a thing that I mentioned after the show was like the theme of the night was reactions. I one of the first one was here. Her when Gringo local comes out with theme and Pam goes nuts Manchu oster fucking I think a lot of people did she loves that old Gringo Loco see man like she legit jams that at our house a regular basis while doing like the Gringo Loco dance. That's real shit that happens in my house. It makes sense. which was this batch was really good? I never seen derange Russell in person before like I've never seen that to see you tired for a while. Actually he just arrested in this year. I believe he's good very good. One thing this this match in another match and maybe it was just where I was sitting. You'll like the crowd was a low dead. Yes during yeah me too. I was dead for most of the show because of my interest you guys but the minute work schedule and now I come straight from work to these shows and I normally try to be in bed between nine and ten eleven at the latest in the does you know like I felt half dead still persevered and and you know went through but I don't think I was feeling it. I really feel and this might have been one of those moments because sitting for all the other matches like am really starting field so I had to walk around a little. been knowing everything we had coming up and then obviously the the main event itself is going to be long and all that shit but I got back from Bethesda less than twenty four hours before the show started wow so yeah that was still for me. It's not my usual and maybe there was just a lot of that like just everybody was worn out for different reasons but it just this mansion in another one. I was like man the crowds kind of debt they were into it but not like going nuts for stuff like when big win beg spotswood Athen the crowd would pop but you would get that like that dreaded fuck in like murmur sound in the room where like there's like eighty eighty conversations sations happening at the same time in one room but nobody's like cheering clapping full-back. This was a really good match. Flip Kendrick is really fucking good. We talk about that for a second real good. How fucking good flip Kendrick is my God like you know not not a break k. fame for anybody but he's so much fucking better than his brother who Mike how the fuck isn't you get all the fucking like the praise that that do gets because Flip Kendrick has God damn good you just defendant has W. Fan base whatever if they're offended by the truth? I'm sorry he's real good. He's it really walking good. How many places the Flip Kendrick even wrestle anymore? No idea many him and wind energy is kind of like you guys but Linden also has I mean it's not much but he has owned wrestling still just I at low and then they just worked at Michigan and then he just got booked for welterweight wrestling. It's going to be in a different state. I'll tag all now. I just thought that was funny like Oh. He got booked. Oh it's in a different state. Okay makes sense now. Okay Yeah but this I thought this match really fucking delivered yeah like and tons of it scrape quitting. was there no foreign spot. Wow I that just hit me. The that never happened. That's crazy. I kind of liked that it didn't happen. Did that's like it was kind of owed back to the way he was before this last change in his because he's been working the last few times that I've seen them. Wrestle wrestled not the same match but like you know had the typical spots at the spot for the horn usually multiple times those kind of cool to see it not be that for his life. I'm Glenda Dinette and just for once. If it would have been in there I wouldn't have complained but the fact that it it didn't happen and I'm just now realizing it is a good thing co yeah because it it it it wasn't needed. It wasn't missed so the ad that is trucking nuts. He had a nice sendoff to <hes>. That's kind of the tradition everybody gets something whether they get the cut a little bit of a speech or whatever wrestlers come out and you know surround the ring nobody's ever going to buy. I don't think is ever going to touch the Gargano. Hanno of an hour speech was a speech but totally happy for him. He did get the win which did surprise some at least by US but at the same time I mean and it didn't matter really who who won this match. It was probably handpicked by age. As far as we've been told it was handpicked by Jay z make for a lot of sense he wins he wins. That's cool <hes> he where they were all due to a really good at doing that just <hes> it was it was it was it was a really good match to have right before the intermission to yep so then we had the the intermission and I hope to see deranged back as much as possible yeah real good Jalen Celtic that everybody that's in that match that can come back should be like earl great well flip. He'll be back Gringo. I feel like that's that's obviously but at the same time I feel like he's not around as much as he he was for a while. They'll still be back though yeah so yeah drained the only one left I the only thing that will keep gringo loco away of somebody scoops him up which I would not be shocked if that happens in the next year either yeah. He's also throw this out there. I feel like he's also just one of the flat out could dudes. He's a great great dude yeah. That's a better way but he is a great dude like I think if he were to just show up at a show not be booked like he'd still have so much fun to hang out with people interacting fans like he's just being a fan yeah. He's he's really genuine like I've had like cool conversation with like that totally told I love the dude I ran into him. Mania Weekends Great Outta conversation with them. I like that you to botch. He's a real good do all right this took us into intermission and then we'll go to a quick admission we right back after this commercial. Are you tired of the same old pro wrestling then check out the amazing action on Power Slam Dot TV the biggest indy pro wrestling channel in the world get over four thousand hours hour of the best pro wrestling events from over one hundred and ten of the biggest names in the industry over fifteen countries around the globe. Get your free trial to date at Power Slam DOT TV and we're back and the second half was fucking stacked. I don't know like the the first half was a little shaky with some of these matches but the second half fucking delivered delivered and we started off with Joshua Bishop versus Matthew Justice for the A. W. in Tez Championship Holy Shit who wants to start aw man so I knew I think Matt Justice might have been the one that tweeted this but I thought it already at that point that Matt Josh were stealing the fucking show whether it be this Matin Josh or the other that Josh and this Matt Josh told fucking show now this this might be Josh Bishops fucking year like he from Mania Ed's this two of my favorite matches this year in wrestling in general have been Josh Bishop matches. He's fucking beasts. Pun intended also ten fucking Wang at the show scream and shit for justice and Bishop out of the way because we're not in like the same kind of Jim. His voice doesn't Echo as much. I didn't know where he was. I couldn't hear him. I didn't know he was there. I seen seen them or he was yelling like I've seen him but I never heard him and that's what got me. He was like Kinda behind where I was so I could hear him like yeah as about Karma. He was always like kind of like behind our section but still like how that Jim was set up like you know you get fucking. I think he could hear him anywhere well. Yeah I mean that Jim was all just like concrete and plastic bleachers. Now we're in a room. That's like wood paneling and some other you know whatever the ceilings made out of some sort of basement excellent yeah so yeah his you know Shit doesn't Echo as much but he was definitely there man. This match was just a brutal mother Fucker as predicted yeah. Let's let's just talk. Talk about. Joshua Bishop wins via crucifix bomb onto a chair your new intense champion Joshua fucking bishop yeah. How about this one Evans agreed? I I think too like like you mentioned stacy about two top matches so far this year you know four months into it has been Joshua Bishop of the two which one if we said like all right end of the year right now match of the year which which one you putting Greenie okay I I'm. I'm leaning that way right now to then. Is that like my favorite magic year so far that fucker slid into like my all time somewhere damn like that's. I really really really really fucking like that match a lot <hes> this match was great. Though this was I these two could fight for the rest of the year on every show. I'm fine with it from now through Christmas. Just Gogo Kennedy Kennedy said that one of the best things to happen to Josh Bishop in the past year was the falling apart of no consequences yeah for sure sure that can be said <hes>. I think I benefited a lot of those guys I think being in no consequences also benefited a lot of those guys <hes> tags at the end it was just it was a different thing than what the production you know what I mean layup. The production was the thing that you could see going on going forward. The no consequences was more of a thing of convenience to to get all those guys together we have and it works it gave them all ways to get that experience and amateur now. Some of them are doing crazy. Shit like Josh Bishop as great then we have well. Also you know trailer barred you'd Guess Chase Oliver when when when he returned from injury because that was really starting to pick up a little bit of steam of just those two I would assume that those two would just pick up where they left off. Once chase can wrestle again yeah <hes> but in the meantime odd Lamar is doing things like winning this scramble on this show Yeah Stone Yeah I I think having been in that group benefited all these guys and I think not being has benefited the ones that are currently around the neck and the only one we haven't really heard much from but there's reasoning behind it is guaranteeing baller. Yeah he's busy. You know stuff yeah for those who don't know just touch on lightly as he has <hes> <hes> schooling outside of wrestling that has taken priority right now so so if you want have been wondering where he is that's where he is. He's making sure that he's not gonna be broke. Wrestlers yeah pretty much not so far what I've heard he's good at it these great U._S._O.. More power to him I definitely miss him. I've thought he was <hes>. I don't say great character but he was really coming out of his shell of what we saw when he first started and that's what I I was enjoying seeing like when he would cut a promo. It was just this tougher side and I was like Oh this is really good. I like it but man Josh Bishop Joshua Bishop who always talk Shit Josh Bishop <hes> I. I don't know that there's a ceiling feeling on that kid right now. Like I feel like you could be the next star comes out. I've put it between him and dom and it's like it's between them. Thumb's got a head start for sure. Ah Dom just had that awesome announcement about w w like there if we were to have a lake ranking of all the A._A.. W students from the beginning like this one into right now when are willing does something the the other manages to top IT <hes> yeah. I think there's there's a great competition between them. I mean just that's why we saw that that great feud and I think that's not necessarily done right now. I mean well a pins put in and that's going to be revisited at some point almost has. You too but like you just see professionally how hard they they're working and even outside of a w an A. Student wise like why put them one and two because I feel like they're out. There were way more than everybody else. Both of those guys had a lot of a lot of success outside of ad w <hes> dom being at evolve and tagged with Kevin coup and <hes> you know working all over the northeast <unk> Slash Midwest and Bishop has to bishop spend in Tennessee and <hes> Indiana and shit like I think it's interesting that Bishop got a belt nee I w adopted though in what we've seen outside out of a w from Joshua Bishop is we've seen more than just regular Joshua Bishop. He had a very short run in southern underground pro as slutty cat which started off as kind of a joke but it turned into like a year ear thing which the it was just Joshua bishop getting to do something a little different a little bit of fun for him. Oh Kado so much fun I mean I've heard Hefford people out there hating and the but it's not necessarily you know like a huge pocket fans it was it was a fun parody of like what we have with alley cat but I don't know the fact that it also to state in one company was just so much fun. We have any more to say about about Joshua. Bishop and fucking like justice was in there in there on that shit too so here's the thing I mean there's there's more to it. We just gotTa get further through this shout okay next up. We have what it turned out. Being between the episode in the show there were there was a change in the card. Sadly Nick Gage had a wedding to go to know more power to him but in a replacement manse warner versus Eddie Kingston instead his snatch still ruled yes hold on saw Mass Warner wins via Larry it to the face. I might just right in the face. I felt like the teased him. Duke not be together for much longer and boy. That's that makes me happy I caught. I don't know if we're just looking too far ahead here too deep into stuff but I just love that will man's comes out. Duke always comes through the curtain. I gets booed. Man's comes through the curtain gets Cheer Duke is what he does and so his manse for totally different reasons as about saying put this on twitter on my personal twitter. The Duke is the best wrestling manager in all of Ohio. There are probably true. I feel like there's some out there that act like they are number one they they don't have as big of profile as big a company but I think the heat that do can get is just nuclear so the only address I will put on that would be and it would be the same for the other guy that I think will qualify for it but technically dukes not just a manager. Is He wrestles. Yeah I think when Dr Dan Works as a manager and not as a wrestler. He's a solid one B to the duke hugging me that like I agree Duke Dr Dan or both managers so interesting comparison Nano US yeah. I think maybe it's because like Dan is is newer this yeah. That's fair yeah he he definitely. I'm not gonNA knock his credentials like he's. He's not in the joke has been made like Dr. Dan could be the duke son and it it would be believable. I can see it hard of me wants them to do that but at the I don't like just have that be like our joke 'cause like I said I've heard it before. I don't remember where but the comparison has been made. It makes so much fucking sense yeah. We've already got one a father son tandem and yeah I mean I don't need another so yeah man's Warner and <hes> with the Duke. I feel like they've been teasing that for a while like we're eventually going to pay off eventually not sure how Sutin but it's going to happen because I think it happened at the last show to the at this place I can walk where it looked like something was about to happen between manse and Jock and then like I and so I feel like they're teasing it but it's not happening right now. We'll say I feel like have a Manson tag team almost like a waste of manse right now too because he's the guy go through this match him Eddie Kingston had a fucking. We've spent this whole time talking about tooks manager. This batch was fucking great doubt it was it was just fucking. It was another like brutal you just fucking match. I loved it. This is not the first time manse his wrestle Bankston I would I would guess not. They did some stuff in I W A in Manse told me one other confident in his slipping my mine right now but that's a super excited for this 'cause I've seen their other matches and they were all really really doing just beat ninety another for twenty minutes and it means we still get nick gage Orissa's Eddie Kingston some point at some some point. Oh God I hope so. I just put it on the rats real. Yeah yeah sounds good to me next up. We had a match CAYDEN. You didn't tell me that I forgot to post. The match was happening has looking through the results I go oh I fucked up the next match was an Dogma Cross versus Josh Prohibition Ako Vein Event of the evening a twentieth anniversary match of these as to and I'll give you a pass one forgetting because I was also real tired still yeah it was inbetween being tired and like it being this match. I was just excited to like watch. I think everyone is really excited because also I didn't mention this and <hes> it was halfway my bad. I didn't take any instagram videos only because I think last time at this venue they got fucked up. They got released in like a random water because it's not great signal. Oh boy so the tweets can go through fairly quick but when you're trying to send out a fifteen second video and then another fifteen second video another fifteen second video in a minutes worth of fifteen second videos in a row I yeah it just clogs up and fuck shit up so I didn't do it. I think the first match I took a regular video and I was gonNA post them later. Yeah then like after that I was like Nah. I'm not doing it so sorry anybody who was looking forward to that so hope I think the Odeon has better reception and it does I've been there before receptions pretty good so so yet tired and all that but Josh Prohibition Matt Cross so excited for this fucking match and the thing that I love is twenty years years together and they go together so well like Josh Russell as much but I felt like it was a smooth match and it wasn't it wasn't dragged down. How'd you guys feel about it good to see Josh Bath for the first time since absolution you shouldn't yeah I'm pretty stained thing last week but it's it's weird not having him on shows yeah yeah I was? I was excited to see a back to especially in a match of this calibre a you know. This was another match where in by this point. We've all been in that room for a decent amount of time forever but this was the other match where I thought the crowd was a little dead at times yeah. It was noticeable at times here which was sad because this match was really fucking. Good I mean how could this match not be good. I'm wonder how many late I won't say non. Wrestling fans like how many outside fans came to this show just for Cross for prohibition and I don't know I mean. Didn't you say that it was the first time his dad ever seen him Russell Yep. That's I remember when he said that. I'm like that's fucking crazy. Yeah again how it can happen. Though man has late twentieth anniversary come see me Russell okay fine and everybody else sure I'll come but yeah that was that whole part I mean at the end of the match to not really fast forward through it but well when they both got on the mic or just goes in shape okay I got on the mic but still <hes> and when Jay his daughter like I thought that was really cool and it was no matter like who won their matches it like a proud moment between friends and we did have Graham across like we mentioned earlier and I was really really happy about that. She didn't really really get involved. She took her spot which no matter where she sitting she tries to get up to the barricade now when endo comes out but that's the only thing I really noticed her but it was just I was just like I said a fun back and forth between the two and see she did run up to the ring. Yeah I feel bad for grandma cross. You never gets to see Matt Win like he has not done a lot of winning day I W in the last couple of years false I think M Dogg won the match and power bomb Iraq. I think you when I can't remember Graham across being hilarious that day just that does the big a false as I saw a I W O w ring the ad don't count it was eight in the morning Shit. Don't cow okay. Can you imagine Donald Show at eight in the morning. No no I had fucking ideas of maybe doing that that year and then got lugging Shit House drunk the night before it was like no I'm GonNa. I'M GONNA sleep out yeah. I'm the only idiot that did it like I mean there. Were other idiots there. I've seen pictures there was it wasn't just like they didn't have to superimpose among other people said before said again. I did it just to live out like the fraction of a dream that I used to have so fine. I was happy with that but anyway no. You're not going to justify shit. I just know I was there. Oh trust me eat in the morning. When I woke up? I was regretting it. I don't. I don't remember what time I got to sleep. I don't remember how much sleep I got it. Probably on a couple of hours I ran to the gas station grabbed a bunch of monsters and it's all I drank that day dude. I don't know what the angle was late for you guys on the finish for this match but from where I was sitting it looked like he brained him through that table and it was it was gross and it wasn't until I saw the video from other angles where I was like. Oh no back me up. It looks so disgusting from my angle it was so good and it was Josh prohibition went in via drunken driver through table which was a fantastic playoff to this match this match bill right like it was yeah it was like really well laid out match like had different different segments to it and there was the whole period where they were outside and against the rails chopping each other <hes> match was great. Everybody should watch that match like get tons of other good shit that happened on the shell fine but watch this. It's a great match and I fucking hope that whoever is doing the fucking g C._W.. Backyard show on the fourth of July gets these fuckers offers to go back to the back yard as soon as they announced it or Aka you through dinner chats when I first seen it. That's the first two people came to mind like O.. J. Pros been getting in shape lately. They're having this twentieth anniversary met. Komo this is whether it's them to again or whether it's euthanasia it has to happen yeah. I just like there's something poetic about those two twenty years later after being the the poster boys for backyard rats to then work miss g C._W.. Backyard show I feel like is it just writes itself to eat now like it needs to happen. That's the hottest ticket of summer man. I'll get an invite to that ship but I'm jealous wonder does I'm jealous every single motherfucker who gets to go it is you do all right. Are we ready for the main event going for the gold yeah should should we go through entrance one by one Oh fuck man. We've been on your longtime already. <hes> I mean we don't have to go into details. I mean there's like this certain highlights we could stop at you know it started off with Manse Warner and the return of Joey Vanilla which goes back to reactions Pat Owens fucking nuts. This is also the weirdest and this is a bold bucket statement. This is the weirdest Joe each match watch. I've ever seen the full. The full length of the goblet for the goal is the weirdest Joey Jamila match. I've ever seen at yeah so many things happened so many little things happened during this match wjr. It's it's so good and there are things that happened that like I'm sure there are things I didn't see. There are things that people on the other side of the room wouldn't have seen like little things like when he wasn't in the ring just like the weird shitty was doing it was so good yet moment with an infant. Someone had a newborn show you punched pat you punched other fans beaten up fans rally. He ran around with a spike in they did someone's entrance with them later man with that. That's another highlight entrant. The big thing for you is genetic like he was having a lot of fucking fun yeah. He was glad to be master yeah. It looked like he was having a lot of fucking side and you know what mania weekend. He looked like he was having fun but he looked like he like zero stress. Just having fun knows that he can do whatever the fuck you wants to basically it just it was great so far and shirt number three Eric Ryan number four Eddie only number five t money number six Zach Thomas Number Seven Marina Tenaglia number eight highlight hi white woman nation by the way I I didn't what was that elimination because it was me Dr Marino okay yeah. I thought it was off the apron into the guardrail. was that a was that the one of a quick elimination by someone else is quick okay you. I think it was the first elimination might have been first entrant number eight Dr Dan and are you ain't ready entrant number nine razor fucking sharp. This might have been the biggest pop in the night. This also went with the theme of everybody for the reaction as place knots. I kind of wish you would have been twenty one because that is the number on his Jersey yeah but that's fine. If you happen here yeah it's still fun. <hes> really fucking half do so my favorite parts of this who were like the genuine reaction of some of the people in the rig to the reaction razor-sharp got from the crowd. Were like really what is going on Joey thoroughly fucking and I loved it for spring greatness. You're fucking. There's that picture of razor walking down the ramp. That's fucking amazing yeah. I've seen it so good. I don't know who took that but that was so good so happy for that dude could for him and she was a quick quick. Yeah you promise for obvious reasons yet eliminated really quick. He obviously wasn't ready enter number ten right a read entry at rider read had a fucking amazing anything like I don't know Boston crab bring them. There was a point where Jamila had in a Boston crab Manhattan in like a slutty choke from the other side live and then oh who was the third person team money or somebody came over and raked his eyes yeah and he was tapping out of so good before Rainer would he do wrong is it's time to take his skateboard. Yes yeah that was tom again. Did he get eliminated onto a skateboard. He got throat. You did a skateboard spot where you went over the top rope landed landed on escape or it's at around and go back in Iraq okay because if that happened on my side of the ring he has about say it was away from us. Oh look like Oh we got eliminated but then he's like skating. Okay Yep landed on or entrance number eleven dominant Greenie number twelve P._b.. Smooth Thirteen Philly Collins. I didn't realize until now but number fourteen in his in his fourteenth dollar for the Gold Marion Fontaine always always get to see him in the goblet. Now Understatement Lula's one appearance here yeah we need more but still love it enter at number fifteen. Matthew Justice followed by number sixteen west Markley man and that's something we didn't really talk about when we talked about that match but West Barkley acting as Joshua's fucking manager played a big part Josh win in that Belt Yeah Imag got a little bit of payback here he wasn't Info just in and out enter number seventeen dare director number eighteen the w intense champion Joshua bishop coming out with the belt to and this sets up those two going forward over 'cause they eliminated themselves together brawled out of the building yeah noticing a pattern with Joshua bishop in his feuds eliminating him in his opponent from the match number Nineteen Thurston jobbers favorite wrestler Louis Lennon yeah he was in their number twenty McCain her bid. It's it's a there with razor sharp in Joey her biggest off in the evening. Okay here's the thing with this. I seen him walking around like before the show but after doors open and I was like <hes> haven't seen you in awhile. Could you be a mystery entrant and turns out yeah but I still wasn't sure because he could just been fucking hanging out well and so that's the thing I was going. Let's say because I've seen him but shows like Mount Carmel where he was just there. Wrestling just hanging out not only was jerry which I don't know if we've mentioned yeah it was Jerry not only come out but students brought out the old Virgil esque banner Jerry A._I.. W wrestling superstar never got Virgil <hes> cod forgot <hes> Gadjah enter number twenty one weird body entered number twenty twenty two worldwide and should number twenty three M J F really enter here. That's twenty three any only must've been counting his lucky stars that that he was already eliminated because engineers thought of N.. J. F. came out with sheet house. Walking around the edge of the crowd cheetos throwing cheetos people and then he ran out any freaked out but even remember he had gummy bears his two states sites injured people entered number twenty four Nasty Russ entrant number twenty five. Tim Danced Enter Number Twenty Six bobby beverly enter number twenty seven Spyder spyder Nate Webb tricky tricky man's spyder Nate Webb telling people he was an Indie. I mean he wasn't lying but I'm sure at some point that day was an Indie Crop Neat Web's the best he's another guy that could be on every w shell Oh and I would be totally five hundred percent so this is where we had Joey Vanilla walking around with him like all it doesn't matter it was going for the gold spyder. Nate Webb was walking around through the crowd. Just like normal whipped joey M J F having maybe like flashbacks from lost in New York <hes> one attracts stop playing the fucking music even fucking Kim was he. I think he was on the Mike and he said stop playing fat boy. Yeah something I get US fucking hilarious. Can I give a w fans credit for something sue anybody who sang you are my sunshine and M._J.. Mania weekend sums up it was topical with the time. I am really glad that this crowd didn't decide that it was time to still keep that shit going when of Jeff came out here it was attempted attempted but it didn't catch on well good for everybody who didn't let it catch on 'cause it's time has come and gone entrant number twenty eight Eddie Kingston Yeah Insurance Number Twenty and number twenty nine when big John Tucker. This moment is what I was laughing my ass off because like M J F getting on big twins back in talking shit. I can't wait to see these two together more real good and then there was a party that really thought that was the thing and they've M._J.. Who's going to win that he was going to be the he'll winner because of fucking taunt because he did nothing that would have been great but we have entered number thirty? We is your pocket. Do the last big reaction of the night came from thrift store chopper now little before I close we don't know but who came out. I seen this person before or the show with his gear bag and a hood up as I was scouting locations to do the interview that you hear things GonNa drop next week with Matt Wadsworth trying to figure place. I can do it outside so here. He is trying Brian to like not be seen an icy him. It was none other than fucking Kaplan and as soon as Steve Guy Count was counting down and I knew okay twenty nine entrance Kaplan is not yet I just all locked act is over to the store jobber and he flipped out fucking love it there safety first Kaplan that two yup safety. I got to have a little showed out like book. It's no secret I'm a I'm a big Tim dot span but Tim dot stole that fucking Gimmick at they got to have like a little taste of lake <hes> throwdown. I would like to see that be a real match at some point like full full on full fucking Macha Kaplan I have dot but I I mean that was Kinda brewing lascher because it was <hes> Don's donald eliminated or the stole his his hard hat and it is safety. I pose and then Danski Limited got eliminated this time. He got limited on our side and he was like he's like I'm safety. I and I was like he was safety. I knew I was safety. I I I yeah so I mean that in between thing I'll say it was. I always thought it was inbetween that or just have those to tag up a safety. I I would take that to <hes>. I'll root for Tim all hardcore that I was also so happy that number thirty because I did not know the capital was in the building. I had a couple of people spoiled for me earlier. In the day that Kaplan hadn't what potato got carried out of their forgotten that earlier indie goblet and I was like do not make Jake that's fucking potato at thirty do not Z.. T. is on the Internet all week that he was gonna Rascic after his embarrassing video ranting and raving Buck in New Jersey and and I couldn't have been happier that it was Catholic so okay in reference to that video let's play. Let's play what if game what if Okay Dave Dawson did win gauntlet for the gold so that means he would go main event absolution with filthy. Tom Lawlor would that match alone. Be Worth the what we would have to go through between Gauntlet and APSO with potato the only way I'm interested in that if it's if if it's a shoot fucking I mean could be you. Don't know it if it's like shoe plate yeah. I'll take that they'll be like ten seconds long Tom. Does he know foxwoods. Either option is okay but he wasn't in it so he didn't win it. Wasn't we've got Kaplan. Instead great the return of Captain Hope it's a regular return like he was never like Cabrillo guy but boy just to have them. You know every couple shows that'd be fantastic. He was a fun guy period like in the ring out of the ring whenever he had a match just fucking left Kaplan. I think it's hard not got to go POPs up every once in a while yeah the last time we seen him. Was it got last year. Maybe was added show eating pizza after that could be but not like working yeah this lead us to our final. Four didn't not GonNa go through eliminations that was too much to do so final four was N.. J. F. Manse Warner Joey Vanilla Woah and Eddie fucking Kingston final two was because we don't have that tweet for that was an M._g.. Often Eddie Kingston. I believe it wasn't Joey Jackson. Awesome Kingston the winner of Gauntlet for the gold fourteen none other than Eddie Fuck in Kingston Mattia and afterwards he said he is not leaving wrestling until he wins the absolute championship championship and pretty much called out filthy. Tom Lawlor so as of right now beat each other up again so as of right now absolution main event or at least the absolute title match any Kingston Versus Filthy Tom. I'm all that's GONNA be too far too. When was the last time <hes> absolution twenties seventeen whenever number that was clear to me now my with the numbers and remember the year twelve twelve fifteen was ten yeah man? I'll take that match as the main of absolution talk yeah yeah just beat each other up for a while to be real. I it was great Eddie Kingston winning. The Gauntlet is some of the best booking I've seen in A._I.. W Jared is so good love thing. If you want to look at it like that all right any final thoughts on this show now for the gold fourteen Kagan fun show top to bottom nothing really bad on the card. Have I use as he loved the show was great on paper. I thought it was going to be long like I really thought it started a little late. THOUSAND HALFWAY IS GONNA be real long. It really didn't feel long like Joe didn't the showed it and feel as long as it was <hes> and it had like there wasn't there wasn't with the exception of a match. I didn't watch so the out was I never saw bad match the whole night so great is one of these big years so if I was grading I would give that shit in a yeah same. Thing thing that I always love about gauntlet is I'd love to the end of the royal rumble match as a whole so doing the same thing here not knowing who's going to win like sometimes we get real surprises and I think this one I would lean towards surprises surprise Louis Lyndon with one of the bigger ones but other people when they won. It's you kinda see coming and it's still good but it's just leading up to absolution. I still think a lot of the other shows Jalen absolution then Helen Earth like the stables those are fun do but just the the mystique of absolute of Donald for the gold love it. I I'm a sucker for a royal rumble style match and <hes> gone for the gold delivered big time. I'm I'm going through twitter right now from from the show day 'cause that's what I've been reading the results off of. We forgot to mention the forks. Oh Yeah Howard's the Eddie Kingston Kingston Recommends Warner and Eric Ryan. This is the first five minutes of gone with and they're just like stabbing each other and not like slow stats like the fast like students while that's happening. Joey Vanilla is like in the corner slash tried to like happily the ring between the ropes like Joey sold all that shit real while while it was happening so good didn't help demands just hand gasmask tonight before the show so his head was already screwed up Kenzan. I believe man I saw some rough gifts from that match to did. He bleed a little bit against Kingston to yes. 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WWE Talent & Alicia Atout

Busted Open

57:01 min | 1 year ago

WWE Talent & Alicia Atout

"If you don't know Sirius. Xm THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast. This is Dave La Greco on today's episode. Wwe Hall of Famer. The world's strongest man Mark Henry and I go through a falls count anywhere. Friday and boy was this episode of a falls. Count anywhere Friday. First of all we had Alicia toot on. That's right fast becoming the face and Voice of M. L. W. Fusion that. You can watch every single Saturday on sports. She joins the show also mark and I get into heavy discussion about Brock Lesser. And also right now in the world the WWe whether it's raw and exterior smackdown during this pandemic who is stepping up and taking the reins. We do all of that right now. On the bus at open podcast. The other host on a falls count anywhere. Friday is the busted open nation. So let's go out to the busted open nation and if I'm not mistaken this next nation member is celebrating a birthday today. Let's go out to izzy in Orlando is he how are you. I'm doing great I definitely had to call into busted open. This is my thirteenth birthday. I'm kidding I'm kind of putting myself over. But because as well is he. Happy Birthday to you. This is awesome. It's amazing you're celebrating your thirteenth birthday. I think we've known you now. Here on busted open for three years so you know you're probably one of the most intelligent callers that we have here on busted open and you always have great ideas. You also have your own shows that are going on the hot tag that I really love and appreciate so easy for you. Thank you for all you do for our community and and happy birthday. I'm sure you're going to do your best to celebrate with your family today. You're about to make my mom cry on her. Go also I do. I do want to say thank you so much of the video. My parents showed me little video and I was laughing so funny. Thank you so much now. Yes so so the nation knows and and and I'm glad you brought that up knowing it was going to be Your birthday today. Your mom wanted to make it special for you as as you know. She always does you. And your your your. Your Dad are fantastic. People and she asked me to make video. I did my best to make you a happy birthday video but my dog demi was implying in having any of it so every time bullies spoke by Dogwood Bark but I think that made the video even better. It went super cute But I don't WanNa make it all about my birthday. Do you WanNa talk about wrestling. 'cause I love wrestling obviously So I'm not GonNa try to discount count last week Episode OF ANNEX T. But it was really good but next week is going to be like a night of champions. We're GONNA see dissolve team dream versus Adam. Cole we're GONNA show player versus Shirai we apparently doomsday. It's GonNa Happen. Not sure what's really going on there. And then we're gonNA see Johnny Gargano Ver- domicied Jacoby and then we're going to get an appearance There's so many things going on next week and I'm really excited for next week. Step aside if I really think it's GonNa Kinda come out done blazers and and is thank you so much for the phone call and happy birthday to you. I hope yeah mark wishes you happy birthday. Happy Birthday my wife I is going Haywire over here but I want I been listening for the last five minutes two minutes action and you know happy birthday and I love the fact that you do love wrestling and that you're found an identity as a young kid because at your age I didn't know shit from shine. Nola no Liz. But Your Dad. I'll tell you it's a shoe Polish but I didn't know one from the other and you have certain advantage on everybody that's on this show right now. You've found your passionate early. Thank you so much that means the world to me coming from you really need the world. Thank you is definitely a special is he? Is He happy birthday? And thank you for everything. Enjoy your day and we hope to hear from you soon. It's Gr- yeah. Is He like finding out Martha is he's just turning thirteen like she knows she's been somebody that's called into this show for years and she's always got great opinions and you know she makes phenomenal. Just phenomenal like just predictions and she really knows this up and down and the fact that she's trying to do this it it blows my mind. She's just turning thirteen because she's so mature for somebody her age when I was thirteen. You're right I didn't know the difference between Jamie and I was in our windows. We wrong trying to figure out what was I doing. I know I wasn't doing anything really constructive other than working out in mowing lawns. That's I guess that's all I can think I was doing. Well I mean she is don some tremendous things but she mentioned xt and yes. Annex T is having a big episode next week. It's almost like a mini takeover. What is going to do something I wanted to talk about with you before we get to tomorrow. The busted open nation members. Mark is that you know. I said this with bully. And when it comes to annex t bullying I We talk about an aws unfortunately compared to because they're on at the same time. I almost wish that annexed eighty W or on different nights so we couldn't make those comparisons because annexed eighty w are so different in their presentation and the way that they do things but unfortunately because they're on at the same time you make those comparisons and in annexed is a wall to wall wrestling show. But I want to get your opinion on something in particular that was praising up and down on yesterday show and we actually have put out a little audio Apposite Open radio about. And that's you know. Shane Strickland Swerve. Scott on annex. T this is a guy and I mean mark you and I have talked about him for years. You know we had him on as a guest In our studios when he was with them. L. W. and now with an x t watching him on on Wednesday and knowing he is a part of this tournament I hope he you know he goes far in this tournament. I hope he does. Even bigger things for next guy is a special town. What's your what's your thoughts on on swerve. You know what I knew. A special talent win saw him on India's song working places and actively tried to find him to have a conversation if he was interested in coming to wwe and he said he was. And I started the ball in motion of asking the questions and getting approval to get him into camp and they brought him in and he never left and his work ethic and work rate are at the level of our best guys. He's he's not the biggest guy but he's not the smallest guy. He's not a cruiserweight and being a twitter is hard to get in but his talent is undeniable. Like I mean. I don't even know if you've known. But he's a rapper and a good one and I mean he could have chosen that route like. There's there's many things that he's very versatile as far as the talent and entertainment and now I think the wwe in this pandemic world are trying to figure out to what is really about. Like what are your skills outside of just wrestling? And they're finding out and he's he's one of the good ones and we talked about this on Tuesday when you came on for our anniversary. Zelina Vega has been the MVP for Monday night. Raw Zelina Vegas. She's not even in the ring competing you know. She's a personality right now. She can get in the ring arrested. She's a great wrestler but she's more of a personality and character on Monday night raw yet to me. She's kind of been the. Mvp of that show when you look at exte- to me Shane. Strickland is just doing stuff. A lot different than everybody else on that roster. I mentioned it yesterday like two way. He commands attention to the camera. You know a lot of the WWe superstars across the board on raw on smackdown and on an xt then walking down the entrance ramp the same way they would if they were in an arena. Fifteen thousand people. They're going through the same types emotions. There look into their left until they're right. Swerve Scott is looking right into the camera. Like that's the audience right now. There is no audience in the venue. So why are you looking to the left and to the right? He looks right into the camera so he's grabbing the emotions of the people that are sitting at home. Selena Vegas doing the same thing and I like what you said. Mark about the fact that the wwe is kind of finding out. Who's WHO's the cream of the crop right now because hey they gotta change their ways and a lot of different venues now because of the pandemic that's going on. It's not business as usual as much as they're trying to make it seem that way you're gonNA find out who can give you that little extra. Who's that WHO's that personality that during these really rough times are going to grab people's attention and I think in the world the wwe those two wrestlers that we just mentioned are doing the best job I do too. I mean it'd be hard to argue I mean there's guys like Seth rollins and drew McIntyre and the list of high level. Guys that are Randy Orton and edge. And there's there's a ton of guys but the guys that are on next T- that are drawn the attention from the all entire universe of pro wrestling Swerve is at the top of that list. I mean Keatley in the Adam Cole's and Johnny Gargano World and the Chompers like Jerry Lee. They be number one on any brand of wrestling around the world and I think the just finding out this word has that same level of entertainment abilities. Yeah he's doing a great job. Let's go back out to the bus. It open nation. Let's go out to David and Atlanta. David What's going on? Good morning guys how we doing. What'S UP HEY GUYS? I'm doing great. They WANNA completely agree with you. I wanted to call and tell you all this yesterday because you were on topic with it but let me. Let me put the best comparison I can. I enjoy watching the wrestling of annex t but I enjoy watching the show. A W if that makes sense. There's there's just something about the overall atmosphere of all the pieces fitting together with the People. On both sides making noise and the vignettes they cut to back and forth and just a more like you said the more and more entertaining overall experience. When you watch w but POW POW WHEN YOU WATCH THE ENTERING ACTION. I agree with you guys. I think he still has. You know an advantage in that regard the biggest thing that I took away from this week in terms of playing to crowds not being there and I know why Atomic Tommy Dreamer Raven records why they use handheld microphone But the sitdown between drew and Seth was very believable it just seemed like two guys talking and they just happened to have a microphone until you know all hell broke loose in the ring. But then you watch other shows and it's like we're GONNA have the same conversation between two people but yet we're going to yell is if there's ten thousand people they're gonNA look around is that there's people there and there's not and it just it. I really think the young the kids and even maybe some people that are just stuck in habit could take a note from what from what Isaiah didn't just you know make them of it. You know. You're you're in a row. You're in a ring by yourself. You're looking into a camera. Engaged the audience and let it feel natural because then I think why ratings may not be where they are is 'cause people tune in and they go why are they acting like they're in a arena full of fifty thousand people when they're not can't they just be real and that would engage people more and David? Thanks so much for the phone call. You know. Habit is hard to break. You know all wrestlers. Have you know learn to you? Know obviously speak to the camera but to play up to the crowd. Crowd is such a big thing in pro. Wrestling brings the energy to the performance. That are in the ring mark and you could speak to that better than I can. Now in a crowd is to a wrestler and now that's been taken away so a big part of what makes pro wrestling pro. Wrestling has been taken out of the equation and I think markets. It's you know the wrestlers now with this current situation forever long. It's going to be. They're going to have to learn to adapt to it. They'RE GONNA have to learn to adapt. Okay Day let's hypothetically say Mark Henry Returns to wrestling tomorrow If I return to wrestling I was say thank you God. Now I could hear my own thoughts I walk. I Walk Torino Microphone. You could pick my voice up. I'm loud enough. I don't have anybody interfering. Nobody's GONNA throw anything. Nobody's GonNa inject an opinion that I don't really care about and you don't. You're not able to draw energy from these people that you love and respect and care about so much is just me and you and it's going to be mostly me and you're gonNA scream. Everybody is at home. That's listening I want you to hear him scream. I want you to hear him Moan and beg me for mercy because that's what you're going to get every night that I walk to this ring and that's what I would do. I would put their face into the camera asking for help. Now ask them and I have my way with him and and that's what nobody's doing. I can't believe that there's not one rustler. That's using the camera as their vehicle to get the reaction puzzled. The hell out of me. Why somebody that has listened to the show. Please do that next week on a Monday. Wednesday Friday is it validates pro wrestling. You you're helping the industry by using every vehicle possible and the camera and the cameraman should be your friend. The announced table should be your friend. The term buckles the ropes. Nobody's using the stuff around them and that's how you get to. The People at home is not rocket. Science is just is actually advanced. Psychology is not simple and you know what mark what you just said gave me goosebumps and I'll tell you why because we need just put your fish to the camera and that's the video we're GONNA have to put out at some point so a lot of the people can see that man it yes. That's that's what pro wrestling is about. We've gotten away from that. It's been about the what chance and this is awesome. And and that's that's a great cherry on top at a on top of the pie but man the fundamental of what pro wrestling is is what you just said Mark. It's a confrontation between two people. You don't need any outside element when it comes to that no and if I grabbed somebody's hair and I'm holding a hit back like this to the camera. Dave and I tell the camera and the people at home if I wanted to take his eye out. I could do it like that people at home and be like. Oh Shit cover your eyes like I will make you cover your eyes at home. It's a horror movie. I I know what I hate but I understand. I'm a big fan of the show on USA. They used to play call site. And it's like a mystery movie James Roadway who's a unbelievable fan of wrestling him and delay hill both a wrestling fans. And they they. They've had at least five or six wrestlers on the show and they they talk about wrestling. I had that conversation with James before he said man you just you just scare the hell out of me. He's like I feel like if I if you turn to the camera and ran I would just turn TV off. And I was like come on man but that's what it is. That's what you're trying to do you try to make people at home that are sitting on. That couch are sitting in that. Big cushy chair right in front of the TV with the remote in hand because they they WANNA fast forward commercials they. You could do everything now and I want them people to sit back sometimes. I want them to one of the lean in. Oh my God. I can't believe US guys. Girls use the camera like. There's no crowd Davis one hundred percent correct and bully was slow on point when he said why have a microphone is not allowed? La? You're you're portraying everything to the camera. The simplest thing that you can do and I don't know that the powers that be listened to the show guys. Please listen to what I'm saying. It will work. Soccer is a passion that goes beyond the sport and Sirius. Xm FCC podcast more than a game brings that passion to you you any episode FCC panel of Experts Take a deep dive into club histories iconic grounds rivalries. And so much more is nothing like a Dhabi diametric new episodes available weekly by downloading the Pandora and searching more than a game the face and Voice of msw fusion can see every single Saturday night on sports and that is the lovely and talented Alicia to Lisa. How are you dave and mark? Thank you so so much for having me I'm doing wonderfully how are you doing? I'm doing great. I'm just missing the fact that the last time I saw you we were eaten. Glory Hole donuts and they was so good ours ours. Bring up food and those sickening. But you know that's just my that's my illness. I love food and it's always always can never go wrong. It's well I mean you. Obviously Mark Remembers Food in Toronto from Summer Slam. But there's a lot more involved as well and when you look back at the last six months I mean you talk about a jump in your career. Obviously you yet a lot of buzz around you. You're doing great job doing great interviews but these last six months tell us about liked how busy these last six months have been for you if an absolutely crazy right after I saw you too in Toronto's just one show after another. I was booked almost every weekend doing stuff between Toronto and being in the states just working tons of conventions doing signings hosting shows ring announcing it was just crazy and then come around October November. I get a nice little e mail in in my inbox and I happen to be from emily. W So we talked for about a month and the next thing you know in December they bring me out to you know just test the waters. Make sure I'm happy with everything. Make sure they like how I am and everything they've heard. Is You know the truth then. Luckily we both loved it and next thing you know a couple of weeks afterwards. I was putting my name to paper and non sign with them so everything has an extremely goofy. And it's been thank you so much. It's been incredible ever since what's been the most kinda surprising. But what's been the thing that you didn't you least expect about being backstage in announcing and interviewing honestly just the craziness of some fans and the best way. I never expected to have the fan base that I've been able to gather and every time whether it's a merger that comes through someone comes up to the merge table or they just stop you at the airport you think. Oh my gosh they actually care but what I'm doing I never thought I'd get to that point. So as far as just in general when it comes to all of that stuff badge than incredible and when it comes to Emel W I've heard so many people they'll sign somewhere and you know things are fine and Dandy but there's always stuff to complain about but it sounds so cheesy but there's literally not one problem I have had since signing with them and I'm just so thankful for that 'cause you hear nightmare stories from some people and ever since I've been on board with major league wrestling it's just been folles. I love it you know. We spoke to court. Bauer right after. Us sign court was really exciting. Came on with us and literally like he felt very lucky to be able to get you to be a part of them. L. W. is like signing that big name of free agent core power is somebody that's been around pro wrestling for decades and decades. So you know. How does it feel for you to be around like a great wrestling? Mind like core power but also that he appreciated that he was able to get you so early in your career to be a part of L. W. I tell him all the time how thankful I am for everything that he's been able to only help me with and helped me grow but just giving me and he doesn't have any type of ego which is very rare in this business. So yeah that's something. I'm extremely thankful for and the other thing that's been really incredible working with his brand. Is sometimes your backstage in other promotions annual. Give your thoughts or ideas or genuine ways you think of. Promo or segment can go better. And you'll just get shut down because you're not a producer. You're not creative. You're not an agent but in this company I can speak my mind. I can improv. I can say what I want Obviously being respectful but China Hyde and everything. We're all here to share ideas and not once have been shut down of course once in a while. They're like now. We think we'll go this direction and whatnot but most time. We'll just we'll take the idea will roll with it and you watch the end product and you're like hey stay in. That's pretty awesome. You're not just being told what to do. You're actually a part of everything. So the fact that they see something in me and the fact that they want to continue to grow with me and vice versa. I think it's a pretty wonderful thing to have talent and I can understand that it is a good thing that that you're feeling that way because I think it'll bring more Exposure to you it'll bring more passion for what you're doing to pro wrestling your skill set. Is there something that you want to do outside of announce? I think it'd be fun to get more involved in a storyline rather than just holding a microphone. Kind of asking the question. Stickball in back and forth By no means is saying. I want to be a wrestler. That is not where I'm going with this but I think it would be kind of fun being able to maybe take a manager role at one point or talk on the Mike. I love being able to empathize with people and have fun that way and at the crowd kind of roaring by there. You're good or bad is just so fun and seeing creative. L. W. is I don't see that being out of question of course right now installing the interview role. I'm just I'm just a few months into it with them so I I love doing that. But I feel like anything's possible with them so I kind of have my mind open for whatever they might give me whether it's hosting other shows which. I'm really hoping we can talk about some point but yeah there's a lot going on and I'm I'm pretty much open to whatever I know with them. It'll be executed properly. Well I'm going to catch on what you just said. Because he said you're just settling into this role but it sounds like there might be some what special projects on the horizon for you with. Emo W. Yes so with everything going on right now. Of course we are not doing. Our monthly live tapings and. I'm so thankful about court made that decision because it's just for the safety of everybody and everybody families back home so I think that's a really great choice that we've made but some things that we do have in the works while being in quarantine and being at home because of over nineteen we actually have to brand new shows in the works in which I'll be hosting within the next two weeks. We're filming a pilot for one of them so we have just early. Been working a ton behind the scenes. I D I d idea here and there and it's GonNa be really awesome. Seeing them come to fruition seeing where they end up. You're GonNa really love these ideas. I'm so so excited so everybody has to stay tuned for everything Alicia we. We did an interview together. Probably almost two years ago now And I was like. Wow this kid is going to be awesome and now fast forward to two and a half years and you have grown up a lot. I mean I'm seeing look at this woman and I've got dave both got the fortune of meeting your dad when we were in Toronto and we were hanging out and I saw post a couple of weeks ago employees and yeah yeah yeah yeah I gotTA bring this up. I gotTA bring this up. They've gotta bring it up and she had one of these like sexy poses or something and I went all right now. I'm GonNa Tell Your Dad and I did not get a reply. I was telling you before we started recording. You know I always replied you. I didn't even get the alert for something like that. And I'm trying to think of what photo it was because I know I have family on here. Friends on social media on like number tried oppose anything. That's like super risque. Honestly because it's just not it's not me like look at me I'm in my own. Merger O. C. Don't take marks words the wrong way. He's not saying that it was risque. No I know what he's but I know what he's talking about. Sometimes it could be just glare your. I WANNA KISS KIDS. Just a gays now. I know what you mean. I'm trying to think tongue out something. That's what it was. I think is probably goofy. Like you know the little like something. Take it however you please take the post of Gene Simmons on the back wall in a room and You know tell us about that. Photo does unbelievable okay. So last summer I was in Finland for a whole week because a big music festival called rock fest was going on and they hired me to be a social media influence. Our Take Pictures. Just enjoy the concert and people headlining. Def LEPPARD kissed and Slipknot. And I was like this is incredible. You know you've got this beautiful free pass to go to a fantastic place in just explore and have fun and they knew I was a massive Hispan- wearing kiss shirts twice in the whole he was there just because I love them and they're like okay. We're GONNA try to make this work. Maybe we can sneak you into their meet and greet some literally waiting every morning. I'm waking up waiting for them to text me something you know. A masking them constantly under day has finally perform. Like Hey Alicia. We got some news for their all sad and like Oh. Gosh that's accident happened and I just lose it. I waited maybe maybe like five or six other people and next thing you know I get to meet them all and I just one of those moments afterwards. It sounds really like sappy but I just bought my eyes so I was like. Oh my gosh. I'm in this foreign country because of my job. I got to meet one of my favorite bands of all time now. I could see them Rocco. It was just phenomenal. It was one of those moments. You'll never forget and it's cool that with all that you're accomplishing as a personality that you can still be a fan. And that's that's important. Don't lose that because I think that's a part of your quality. Is that people know that you do have passion for wrestling and for music. And you know Kiss Paul. Stanley is a big wrestling fan. You mentioned slipknot. You Know Cory Taylor a huge wrestling fan. So you know we see more and more mark you're talking about the TV show psych and now they're big wrestling fans as well like you find out in his business that you know what was once. I guess like a guilty pleasure. Now is more mainstream than ever before and there's so many celebrities. Alicia that wrestling fans. That's why actually started interviewing wrestlers vice versa for me. Originally I started interviewing musicians when I was about sixteen or seventeen years old and then a couple years into it. I started picking up on all of these wrestling references. People were making like they'd stone cold. What nowhere they do all these random little inferences and like I know what you guys are doing. And as soon as I've mentioned that I'd play off them using wrestling terms or phrases. They they'd be so shocked and then our whole interview with slow for music and we'd talk wrestling so at one point and it was thanks to my dad. We realized okay. If all these musicians love wrestling obviously wrestler's GonNa like music Bridge two passions and get into the wrestling industry as well so it was very organic and it's just like you mentioned. You never know what people are gonNA love and luckily the two things. I love a lot of people enjoy so it worked out. That's a couple of times we've mentioned your dad. Doing he's doing really well. He's actually in the basement right now with my mom. They're gonNa Nice workout in doing these young doing these Stanley workouts lately. I haven't worked out since like high school. Which is really horrible. So I've just started getting back into it like a month and a half ago open to get out of this quarantine looking good so Yeah he's been doing really well. We've just been watching a lot of movies together. I've obviously working a ton but it's been really nice thing to see everybody a lot more since I'm not traveling all the time day. We excuse me. We shared a connection. And we we split a cherry What does that the thing it? We split a eight. Yeah we split the Cherry. It was like and nuts. It was like Pasta. She does the Cherry stasio down. I don't go back and donuts. Always go back the food with me as long as your dad is eternally linked with me because we split a donut together. Sabina thing Alicia take to get more food for just a second which is very difficult to do with them. I know what you're you're talking about donuts that we don't have like if you were talking about donuts and then the next segment. We could eat those donuts. Then I'm all in but the fact is that I'm stuck in my house and I can't go to Toronto to get glory donuts. It's killing me that you keep talking about these damn donuts mark. At least you can you can you Order out some and take some photos. Please sleep through. You tweet him out and tag mark with you for free now. Oh Yeah don't pay for militia. I mean we've talked enough about shouted out. Yeah you gotta give you a little comp there but to get away from the food for just a second and talking about msw and all the personality and character's and so many great wrestlers that are part of that organization. You've had some great interviews with the dynasty with Mance Warner. Is there one interview that you've done with them? That stands out above all the rest. Gosh there's so many there's one that I recently did with Manse Warner where we were talking about. The upcoming loser leaves town empty arena match that he had against njs. Which I am very thankful about Manse Warner one thank you matt. I'm Jay. Fcc Gar Govan Dave human stain human stink fairly accurate. Yep Yes I think that's about as accurate as it can be with them. L. W. I mean with MGM. For go ahead yeah. So we're doing a problem together and all of a sudden he whips out a whiteboard and he's like okay. Join it for you to draw me on here and his beer bottle and I need you to tell me what you see here. What are you seeing? Unlike the beer bottle nothing nothing else. He's like exactly nothing as NJ business. We're just doing this. Whole Promo randomly like all Improv always is with Matt. We're just told like okay. We need to Kinda push this storyline forward and do whatever you want really and I love the creative freedom behind it and so I'm literally just there with a whiteboard holding the Mike and my dominant hand writing with my crap. Had I'm just like Oh my gosh? Where's this going and the next thing you know I watched it back and I'm like that is one of the most brilliant random promos I ever filmed have been a part of so I love working with Manchu Dynasty. Oh so hard to not last with while filming because you never know what hammer stone. Gino or holiday are going to say like they're just so quick witted and that's really great quality to have especially in wrestling so there's just so many people. Tom Lawlor anytime my promo with him. They always have these crazy sponsors at the end and never know what's GonNa come out of their mouths always just sitting there like ours so far so good when one of my going to. What am I gonNA almost right? Keep it together. So it's just filled with antastic talent and I'm so thankful to call these guys my friends and it's very much become a brotherhood. Like I always still stay with them. Whenever I'm an Every city either always kind of watching over me. It's it's a really good group of people and mark the best thing court. Bauer loves man's wondering because he pays them in bud lights he doesn't actually after. This gives them bottles of Bud Lights. Great Love Mansour Alicia. Thank you so much for the time really quick. I obviously watch 'EM L. W. W. dot com. Watch it on Saturday nights on sports mel W fusion. But talk about yourself how people interact with you. And how can we get that shirt? Absolutely all you guys have to do is hit. Up ALICIA TO DOT COM or search. My name on the Nice Google box and you will find their my youtube channel. My merch store where I have. This kiss inspired. I love it and I can't see right now. You're listening but later on if you see a video really cool emerge now and then just hit me up on social media whether it's Alicia Cheat on instagram or twitter. I love interacting with people. I love hearing what you have to think about the brand new interviews and blogs so don't feel free to reach. Oh it's a blast interacting with everybody from Ambience Amil W fans or if you happen to be a new fan of me today from listening so thank you so much to David Mark for having all right at least two of 'em L. W. Thank you dad. So limits view can do whatever you want. Kyya Tony Ferguson. And just engaging face off for interim lightweight gold at UFC two forty nine joint Sirius Xm fight nation this Sunday at noon eastern proposed by reaction and analysis from Jimmy Smith and RJ clipper will not derail. I chance to face the undefeated Habib Nirma Gourmet undisputed champion. This this is my name. Find out on your home for Sirius. Xm Fire Nation Channel. One fifty six. The word came out what Colby said on our show. Last week and drew McIntyre responded. So there you go goal achieved by Coby COVINGTON. So He's GonNa come on and eleven thirty to talk all bad so I'm looking forward to that up until then mark. It's all about the bus that open nation eight seven seven three four four eight nine three eight seven seven fight ninety three again. That's eight seven seven three four nine. Three eight seven seven five ninety-three if he can fight you can go. You can fight you fight. You could call is not the opposite. That's for Damn sure you know all right you ready to go to some Some nation callers. They should members Let's go out to Jeremy in Florida. Jeremy What's going on buddy? Hey guys good to talk to you again. What'S UP JEREMY First of all I wanted to see if I can give you some advice about this whole Lord of the rings thing that you're playing you all right. Hold ON JEREMY BEFORE WAY. Jeremy Jeremy before you continue mark are you aware of this whole Lord at around? Yeah I'M GONNA I'M GONNA come in on this all right so wait a second Jeremy before we get to your call for those who don't know and you you can hear the audio apposite. Open radio bully. I started remarking about something and then he brought up like it's kind of like one of those. You know crazy characters like Fredo or Bilbo Baggins or something from Lord of the Rings and I was like I never saw any of the Lord of ring movies and I you know and bully completely just hammered me. At the fact I'd never watched any of the Lord of the ring videos now fast forward to our interview on Wednesday with cody. Rhodes and cody. Rhodes right off the bat screaming at me about not watching the Lord of the ring movies and I said Mark. You know what cody. I'll watch the Lord of the ring movies even though each one is about nine and a half hours long. I'll watch the free Lord of the ring movies if you watch just the one first police academy movie and he said no. So go ahead. Jeremy What do you want to say about the Lord of the Rings? Well it's actually simple. It's a it's three simple words that can help you and that's family movie night. If you want this with your wife and your daughter and they enjoy you'll probably enjoy more. That's just A. That's just an advice but that's not really wanted to call a real really quick Jeremy before you move on first of all you can see the video of the fight. I add on the APP. You can subscribe to the podcast. You go on demand rehear it you know. We have the video section. You could see the video but the thing about Jeremy. Why would I watch those movies on family movie night? Part of the reason why you watch a movie on family movie night. It's to spend time with your family. Have some popcorn laugh you know have to. Why do I WANNA put my family to sleep ten minutes into family movie night? Because that's what would happen if I put on one of the fucking Lord of the rings movies all right time. The La Grega house because they suck they're boring. They're Shit Jeremy Your opinion. No that's not a fact fact next to the warring next definition of boring in a dictionary they have a picture of Bilbo Baggins. Let David Quiz. Go ahead Jeremy Anyway. Speaking of cody I did have a question because you guys have been praising how he's the number one safe in e W and how he doesn't need a but I looked you w rankings on Wednesday and he's actually the number one contender according to the rankings in the mail division so I'm why isn't even in the rankings. If there isn't even a hint of ability that he may find a way to get back into the title picture. Well I mean. There's a couple of different things Jeremy Jeremy. Thanks for the phone call. Here's the thing. Mark like the rankings for a w are truly rankings like they rank wins and losses. And Cody you know again with a big win this past Wednesday so you know a lot of times pro wrestling mark. We talk about how wins and losses. They how they do not matter but an msw day do so they're true rankings based on your wins and losses. So you know you and I can talk about. Cody doesn't need a title right now. Cody shouldn't be in the title picture. But when it's based on those rankings in its wins and losses then code is going to be ranked number one in and justifiably so I mean now is he winning but he is elevating all the people that work with him. He'll I'd love to get in there and work with guys that I know that people are going to come away from it going. Wow I mean he got beat but man. He gave that guy all he can handle. And that's that's the way code is matches are and you don't have a loser you really don't and and a lot of time with cody and I have fun with cody. You know he comes on the show and he says some outlandish things about you know the star wars movies and you know the Lord of the rings movies and we have a lot of fun with that. Set Him straight. By the way. What's that it was it was? It was painful for me to listen to some of what he said to you. Like he's he's GonNa have to put some respect on your name. Well I mean one thing that I did take exception to and I said this on the show yesterday. He kind of threw out there about why that Sirius. Xm Give me this role of all the people they could have hired to be the host bus. It open why may he doesn't know that I created this show on. I'm saying I create. Nobody appointed this title time. Dave I created code in. No you'll gangster set him straight. Oj Hemi the bust. It Open. I'm OJ original your bad mothers. I'm just talking about the League record and I'm glad mark that you defend me because there's not a lot of people on this show either on the microphone or behind the scenes to save bullying bullet on protect. You say you doesn't protect me. Likes to throw fuel on the fire. I'm just you know it hurts my heart sometimes here the lack of respect that you get an even if they feel that way be happy that drastic own and somebody saying putting a positive light on you and and spread the Gospel about who you are. Thank you mark that so I appreciate you for that? And it's True Code Academy. He can disagree. We could disagree. But because I don't like movie not GonNa come on the air and say because cody didn't watch police academy that you know he's a piece of shit like he said about me with the Lord of the rings but you know it is a certain type of person you know if you haven't watched police academy if I'm going to go out to a bar I I'd rather much sit down and have a drink with somebody that scene police academy or or Lord of the Rings. Yeah I love please can me you know and a lot of it? I didn't even know until I was older. That one of the stars in that movie was from Beaumont Texas Bubba Smith Hall of Famer. Nfl Hall of Famer Bubba Smith Bubba Smith from Beaumont Texas. You know the the large police officer that came out and said in the back hightower. He was hightower. Police Academy hightower yet. Steve Gutenberg Mahoney. Come on now I mean I I mean but that but I digress because cody like you said is great in ring. There's nobody better. There's there's a few that are better than cody. As far as the mind of him. Not just what he does between the ropes mark but just a businessman that he is you know cody is phenomenal at what he does and I think he needs to get a lot of respect for that and you know if you know cody if it wasn't for cody wouldn't have w right now and you say what you about cody. But he is one of the best faces on that show. Do you know nobody gets a bigger reaction? You know. Maybe maybe Jon Moxley outside the Jon Moxley. There's nobody that gets a more positive reaction than than cody. Rhodes right now. But just because you're great doesn't mean you can cast a shadow on somebody else and next time. You Talk Cody. You need to say cody. I'm I'm a little sensitive right now. I mean I'm I'm I'm still feeling affects of the last conversation we had and I need you to put some respect on my name so you need to stand up for yourself and we'll talk to you. Crazy did respect. He did respect the show. He said that it's respect show. But he he didn't respect the man that created the show like the man. The pride that the fan you'll superfan fan and but was shameful about what's wrong with that. I'm waiting nothing. I'm a fan of Magic Johnson and I'm not ashamed to say that if he came in the room I would i. I turned into a seven year old kid. But that didn't make it belittle me. It means that I respect and I have an Infiniti for someone that I feel like. It's great I'm not going to step on the Little Guy Not GonNa do. I'll mind stepping on the big guy and that's what chaos did last week when he said. Hey why should I wait in line with all these other swing in Harry's when I could just go straight to the top until the dude? Hey biggest dude new room I can put these hands on you and I don't think you can give them back like I give it to you. I thought that was cool now. There is a pecking order. Somebody at the top is going to say. Hey wait your turn. But that's not for the champion and say the champion supposed to say what drew McIntyre said and. That was if he's feeling like that. And you got that itch and you need to scratch had been Komo scratch. Let's see what happens. That's what's supposed to happen. The tallest tree get the most wind. Dave and drew McIntyre has taken no lanes. If you want it would him bring it to him and I thought that spoke volumes The fact that he responded your home for all things come sports is Sirius. Xm fire nation. Start Your Day with Hall of fame. Pro Wrestling talk on busted open. We spent these men and women that bill the business. Then the BARRANCO keeps you up to date on all things. Boxing boxing is the theater of the unexpected. And and Gary Thomas has you covered for mixed martial arts. Joe Rogan is the most important influence in all of them name broken down like nowhere else only on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six. Let's go right out to the bus and open Asian. Let's go out to wes whereas worry us what's going on. What's going on buddy? I don't limit to be finally last night. Is there anything can do? Do you think to remain himself part time and says hey you get to considered as good as he really is high speakerphone. Some take the phone I'll speaker. Is that bad sorry? I had my much better than we couldn't hear you. But so what did you say about pro? I I heard you say brock. Would you want to say about brock? I just listened to you. And Tommy Tommy. My team to be listened that finally is there anything you think he can do to redeem himself for my two. Hey he gets right to part time status and all that to be like the beloved all-time great that he probably should be well. I and this is a really good call West. Thanks so much for the phone call and Tom and he's referencing. The special. That Tommy idid called Dissecting the beast on brock lesser. And you can hear that on demand on the Sirius. Xm APP and you could also hear it on all the avenues of busted open but mark you know when you think of brock listener. And it's kind of almost very similar to the Ronda. Rousey conversation that you and I had in the past. You Know Brock. Is He a part timer? Yes that's the contract. He has you know. I have some attraction so I don't give him static. Ah for Yeah I and listen. I have been frustrated by and what I'm frustrated by more than anything is that when he is champion you know. He's not defending that title every thirty days. Now we've seen brock a lot more than we ever had. But I think mark what you just said is the right word to describe Brock Leser and that he's in the traction you know he's not somebody that probably should hold onto a championship title. Unless he's going to be there on a regular basis. Now I mean the most you know the the the person that probably hates brock the most Hasta at least admit that we've seen more brock listener in the last year than we have in the past especially the last decade for sure right but you know mark. Brock is one of the grades now is he. Is He top ten top twenty top twenty five not my book but he is a first ballot hall of Famer? He brings a credibility to the ring that I don't know that anyone else on the wwe roster right now could do and he brings the big match. Feel you know like you still like to call Johnson a big match John. Why because whenever Johnson was the ring with somebody it had that big match feel and that guy was going to get over unlike anybody else in the wwe. When he was in the ring with John Cena you could say the same thing for brock listener when you're in the ring with brock listener mark you get a shine like no one else can give you in the wwe. Yeah I think that Brock. The model for Brock's success. It'll be a long time before another guy like that comes along. It worked for him. I don't think that it a worksheet. Anybody else I don't know if the company would want somebody else bully says it from a power standpoint but I I say from a a place of you. Won't somebody that like you said it's going to be able to defend every thirty days you don't want curve the rules thing anybody and if there is somebody then you know. I'M NOT GONNA scoff at but I still think that the business is best served having everybody be on the same page and brock hasn't been on the same page as a wrestle with the talent as well as with office and but it's worked for him because of his greatness and his ability to be able to navigate not just in pro wrestling but in May When are we going to find another guy like that? And it's you know whether it was in the world that you have see. I've talked about this before. I interviewed Brock. Leser with former. Nfl Coach had head coach. Dan Reeves and Dan Rea said if it was the era outside of free agency. If brock listener was on the scene you know twenty five years ago he would have been signed by an NFL team. You know now in the days of you know the the way the rosters are set in with free agency and with the salary cap. It's very very difficult to do projects anymore. You Know Tom. Landry used to love projects. He's the love taking basketball players and track athletes. You know like bullet Bob Hayes and put them in a on the football field and they've been able to excel because you've had retool them in the NFL now. You can't do that anymore. You just don't have that you can't do experimentation. But Dan Reeves was quick to say that if this was twenty five years ago brock listener would be an NFL player. Because that's how talented. And how athletic that he was and even without even playing football? Since high school mark brock listener was able to make it to the final cutting the Minnesota Vikings that tells you what a Great Athlete. Brock listener is a great athlete. A tough yeah. Mike wouldn't take no shit off. Nobody Brooke had three fights and five practices. I mean he was he was like I'm not gonNA take off you. I don't care how long you been playing or how old you are another that like. It didn't matter respect me. And he demanded respect the people that didn't have it form. Mike. You're you're undrafted. Nobody knows who you are you talking to you. That's what you're GONNA get into a fight with Bra. And if he had played football in college he would add technique down because I think the problem with Brock and the world of the. Nfl is. He didn't have the technique with his legs and with his hands as an offensive lineman. You know that's hard to learn. So I think if you do yes if he was able if he had more time. I think you probably would have been a pro bowl. Nfl player but in the landscape that we have now in the NFL. And let's listen. I don't think he's crying about it because he became a champion UFC and he became a champion and WWe one day. He's going to be a wwe hall of Famer and he's got millions and millions of dollars so I don't think it really hurt that he didn't it wasn't didn't hurt him at all been hurt him at all and Dave just before we get off. I want to let you know that I am pro. Police Academy thank you mark. You know what that's just what mark that's why I am Pro Mark Henry. Because there you go. Thanks for listening catches Monday through Saturday. Busted open from nine. Am To noon eastern on Sirius XM BY NATION CHANNEL FIFTY SIX. Then busted open podcast.

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07/29/2020 Aces Of 8 Tournament Bracketology

Paradigm Shift Wrestling

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07/29/2020 Aces Of 8 Tournament Bracketology

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This random facebook user. And we're not going to sell your soul and it's not going to buy. Don't be afraid to wipe just is not an hour long KRIPO. This is just this is our podcast. This is the first time that we have that we are streaming anything whistle ever. were. Before so if you got. A, an actual questions. Chat Room Ready to go and questioning in will be interactive. It's kid. The VIP around. The Lounge. Right. Things staedtler big things pop in little things stopping. Our first little segment that we do here on the paradigm shift, but every week. I kick it off with what I call. Josh's fantasy questions. And basically, it's just whatever crazy fan ripley fantasy question pops into my hurt in that day. And they've been pretty nut so far but I actually kind of. Next week. As There any lineup the we were the force might be changed. Watched w today you saw. Ryder. Ak Matt Card on. His debut. In a line cody. I. Ask did anybody see PIMM being in. The four horsemen stable. Is. Talking about. No. I'll say this the reason I don't think Matt Cordial will be in that stable is i. think that will be what turned coating yield. The trade is brand and line himself back Sean Steel, our, Sean, Speier's and all the rest of them when they go to the heels. down. Tr with today. So they kind of set that. Up Yet. So Our busy questions. Actually goes to something else so. It goes to the team because I haven't went there. Teammate. Faction did the main event Mafia get fortune? Team Canada ton. Of Great Vexes. Yes Were it from teenage time was the main event mafia I thought that was a great storyline they did it well. Though. They do what? I. Did last week take the main event Mafia. You have to keep one original member. But you can rebuild it with anybody else you'd like. You could do. No Way to do that. With. The Taliban from the TNA has right now. No. I'm talking you can do anybody old new. But yeah. Original number of maintenance keeps worn original number Jeff. Jeff. Anywhere. Anywhere. Anywhere still tough though. Because look the titles man. That's tough. Okay. I will take a stab at this so. If I was a Redo, the main event Mafia. And the way to throw their angle have still have stink because you have to have staying in the main event loftier sting has to be like for me would be why? Why Number One guy? Okay. The number. One Guy. Out. Have Sting. then. I'd have some JOE OUT HAVE AJ styles. AM. And then I'll probably have to follow it up with Christopher Daniels. That would be dad would be that would be my main event mafia and they would be like basically talking about being the originators or the origin type idea and they're taking on the invading people that are coming from away from Farley digital. WWe On or whatever, and they're basically trying to cheap teenage pure. that. Would be how you WanNa work if you were going to do it, that's how I would do. Like that I see I see, it can be done. May. Also. I'm actually going to go live different. I always thought booker was a good. A good. Leader. In I would. Like to see. A main event mafia style nation, the domination type thing. If there's little. This. Back you go away. Though I'm sorry but I love or troops I think horse I've been truth. With comedy chops is a serious pro wrestler one of the best and archer it would be one of my picks beggar. Again sticking with the nation have domination type theme I would probably go all African American because they it's dominant and don't that like thirty deputies tryon hurt the her. Like us that. Don't that you could say that was Kinda wrong about the nation and I think the reason why this is Richard officemate may disband. They weren't believable because we look at how many we look at the guy that were in the nation as a collective. As a collective. Steal all the smart I do. And the big problem in the W with the nation. Now I love I love own heart. But he was just ruined under just threat wasn't there anymore. Ahead of. The won the League he asked released they wouldn't let leave So. But after our truth, I. I like him BP I think MVP would be good group to. Is a good mouthpiece. I don't think he's the best worker, but he can. He can talk the talk. And then to round out that group you with. With our curious, you got your muscles like the man is super athlete like you don't see it into www sue breath and he may not have as much of a step now because he's been doing this for time. I think your final guy for that group, Joselin John who had it start continued? Austin greedy. I loved Creden demand I thought he was doing some cool things. Glad. I am still at. The W. And just so I can put it out there has checked creed for g four because he's trying to get the relaunching G. Four and he's trying to get the host that attacks the show. Don't blame. There's another one to one of our fans made a comment. You'd be a great one for the mafia to Yup. This one or as a new entity. I. Missouri weary you do you. 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The old school Edward not new school. Edwards all school Edwards Yeah. Maybe. Put into. Say You Bring Back Money Matt To. Greet big money Matt Hardy back. Cool. That Berkman big money Matt yes? Mr, grandma's you are the newest guy you get to go last on this coast. Oh, I'm sorry. Work. On. I won't take a stab at disc. For the person keep I, think his booker. but three. Shawn Michaels. Push on. Aj. deja styles in. Their. Last. Guy. Dwayne, let's go through. That you need one. Very unique team. Interesting team. Because I just want to throw in with Josh before. Brandon goes I would've I would've changed one of your guys I would probably put Jae Lee Lethal. Or for that L. O. D. because just just because we all remember the lovely impression he did. Laugh when she's The best woman. You put him in the. ASS black cheese that would be awesome. Out doing his brick flair impression just in in the main event mafia just to piss off rich out of a drain. Arm Israel as. You said new old. Anybody. So I'm keeping Nash. Wind. Up Believer in the big man, it's been there. Yes I see. Know, you think main event. For, me, there was nobody that was a better main event than the Macho. Man? Randy savage nice. Got Macho Man. Dolph Ziglar. That man's got mice, he is very, very, very under. Will Not. Give give bigler chance. please. Aiming Naomi. He needs a way more than. Almost. Know Ready. Yet and I'm sorry to jump on your brain. Man Up, I gotta say I read something that after this loss, this ww championship laws he is lost eight straight WWe championship matches. Yeah. Not One once it's twenty thirteen. Her No. That's very that you do that. So such good talent. Good talent at as so underrated that Manson actually if he was born, he was in the nineties he would be Shawn Michaels. Yes It right now. But my fourth and final member. The man who will control his own narrative. ooh. I've got to see three. Me Npr man rob what we were smoking there. So. Mr Garland's got a good one and I come to like his his. Isn't. I liked that I like that. A good right up. That's. The only person I would say if I could change my mind is on takeout Christopher Daniels and replace it with a new rude just because he was so good over Antena and they don't use them as well as they should in wwe and sat out. Three because he started at nobody'll look at it now. McNary. Gardens with a lot of mouth bridges I would say is a little wrestling town that is the. Bi Angle and Bam Bam bigelow big man Bam Bam at the end. That that'd be a good team I would love to be that team that. Eleven. Out of that lineup who would you? WHO WOULD YOU may tag? See I think. Any. Stinking thing it ain't. Exactly. Yeah. All right. We gotta jump business in the news because we gotta get an our brackets and that's GonNa take a little bit. So listen. All right so I? Mean we're still of news from black Wednesday. Still a lot of wrestler showing up in places you got macaroni don't showing up in aws. Thank you. She wasn't one of the releases, but also see breaking agrees with me angle and Bam Bam Lagarto. Good point they make it super big in. UTAH. Yes they do. But. You all just go king show up at aws to tag with nightclub rose. Arianna. Tna I have to say this. There's still killing it like last night's go another job for them. They have taken the momentum off of summer slant. Same adversity in really ran with it like adding the new talent. I like the direction they're going love these stories. Yes. I know you have some say Mr where hang on. I I like this new era young we're seeing. E Wise. Just such a stable of TNA to like. He's been around for so long and he's got he's had so many different characters like there's so much. You can do the Y. Alright dreary. What would you like to say? Excuse me rest Russell House is the train wreck that we would waiting for. It is. Like it's it's it's what Indo you NWEA tried to do with. Carney lamb and. Is actually go well like it's it's so bad. It's good. If you haven't seen it yet look on Youtube they started this new thing with ten wrestlers. In a house together agree saola. You got to see it to believe especially Tommy Dreamer in in disco inferno. Shoot. Anthony thing for that. Threes where it's like it's like they took legend House from the WWe kind scripted it a little bit and yeah. Gray's. Lake and I was like man another Sitcom show that wrestlers attorney do did they not see how bad carney Leeann was like it doesn't work but argued. The rate branch of people together can work. And they do a good group. I mean, did they did they play their rosemary tie? Johnny Bravo. Dealers. AC Romero any the other guy triplex L. V. Light. Bailey Kylie. Rae. Crazy Steve. Johnny Swinger. And Tommy Dreamer so So I agree like I think impact is definitely they are reestablishing themselves. In right now with go bad WWe's constantly floundering constantly on a daily, the only brand we were talking about this yesterday being that wwe does well, right now is in exte- in the only reason that is because Sandra, nowhere on it I'll buddy of mine I want to say a good buddy of mine over another show took throwbacks Ranier radio brought up a good point to me the other day you can make argument. is their flagship show now. Oh. W. W exceed scored bigger numbers. A couple of weeks been Rawdon Yep. Will must be having some rob must be some problems. She's. Been Yeah But no. No. Honestly to be one, hundred, ten percent I agree with that. Is. Your flagship show because they're automatically trying to push for. The Wednesday, night warriors anyways. So You might as well just say your Wednesday night your main shows our age W versus Annex T. Flat to flagship, shelves. Like, they had their quarterly call this week events on there and said of well, we have a a a a big bottle jested all of these things are success in a way. So Vincent. and. You think you know better you will. You will be able to pull it out because I'm sorry. But the man goes by what he's seeing an every other time he has been able to I don't. Think the manages to out of today's referee brands the pool this one out like. I. See. It. I just don't. He's just not in touch with today's Fan. Because it's a completely different spectrum than it was during the nineties when he didn't. Give. A moving into the attitude is a completely different thing, and I will say this that. The person has got his hand or his pulse on today's generation triple H. When? Again. Give trip the rains let them. At some point everything he falls at some point you have to adapt to that, and this has yet to do it. This is to using the old formula and it's not working with the is not working with this new age type arrested at were delivered. Right? You need to take the gauge at a you need to see what they're thinking what they want go there. But saying damned fan I'M GONNA. Do it my way and it's not working. You can't use. Business business model that isn't working if somebody else has something fresh in new is to put on it. That's who you run with. It's. Anything with any business. When you're old when you're old model gets old, it's now time for something new break. Open but Vince, my manuscripts of that on his own because he he molded around I sports aspect. Fans and sports has a huge impact on what a team does. WHO's playing what game? Or is my Texans Bill Ryan just whatever. True. He is moated at around a sports aspect. And now he doesn't want to play by the sports aspect rules and it is crippling. The company he is not I don't care. Unless McMahon retires in hands. The reins over. Martin words. WWe. Will Fail. And I would not be surprised the least bit. Eventually down the road in exceed comes its own brand. I see it happen. It's it's got. It's got enough. You got enough guys there now and even ages making accusations. He's always been making that strive and and has moving. He's jumped. Runner he's jumped to. New Japan and grab guys and said Hey look demise better over here. And felt. Over in. Tokyo. The show itself. You look at me how often do they do a gimmick match very rarely wear any conduct gimmick match because the way they build matches and they built in bill during matches, they don't need the gimmicks they use the gimmicks for huge. Story ending matches. Really think giving match us when it doesn't need to be used in intercede in the other www's giving match wrong smackdown anytime they see fit enemy. You could go to raw next week, and for some reason, they'd be having a hell of a cell like in not out of the room. And that lack of creativity and the the. Oh my God, the pitiful storylines like you said. The. God. The Bobby Lana thing was killing me. I. Killing. That was an embarrassment. That time look. Like, for example, entity when they did war beings, how they even got the women's World Games to be over with. So Monument on the story was so better than anything Ron smackdown doing there were people more interested in. Watching how that was building and watching your own smack up. Yeah, and here's your on smackdown supposed to be the flagship for Fox and the big thing for the Unites USA network and it's almost like USA's jumped worn on the Bandwagon. That anything else and it's just like. Yeah we can. We can discuss the whole show about how w w been. Chilly. The business and. appeared. Can't even watch the product anymore like I just. Butt lifts. The top ten that's high notes on. All of the dirt. Like does tell me everything I need to know I just thought every storyline that's going on. In everything that's failing basically. Lifted, into it Real quick. As any viewer Bishop knows next week starts are angers AIDS tournament. That was intense. was. As good ads is dead. Kicks off the. Government is finally here. We're, about youth rate yeah. This. You know these these these matches are just like screen you dream. Absolutely, watch US Mr Hariri to go over our team is one more time just so that yes, everybody lease. For the. On. Knows exactly. WHO's team who was? So let's start with with every pointing correctly. Let's start with Josh and then go across the board. So everybody knows. All right. We'll give me one I. I I would say boys and girls says, we are now streaming on all different platforms, get a piece of paper write this down to keep up with it. We tweet. Going to we're going to I'm going to figure out a way I'm GonNa be hosting this practice. Sleet the brackets post we're going to figure out what's But do. Huddled right down I'm going to be doing the same. Here's the great thing. I will say there is only one match in the first round where someone ear has two of their team members going at it in the first round I a feeling, it's me. And lawyer would be wrong because it's actually meet. A. Raid The lists. Eight team members right each we each have picked eight eight people. One. On one. With. At least one working on there it is one woman. Okay. One woman each. Somebody. Had to be an overachiever and pick two gene. As The manager for the young bloods. I bridge now. Okay. So So I bring you the winning team. In that, it's The Role Model Myth Brett Baker. Head to change this one. Hopefully I stated Balloon Right, rob. Kazuko of Kinda Lao. Lao. Okada Fi. I'm never going to get right but I'm gonNA keep getting just say Okada. The rainmaker everybody out of Rainmaker Hill. One. Earth Third Mr Sammy. Callahan. Fears. Kevin Bond Eric Young Kevin Money. When he was rocketed the start a him in Dallas that can what Kevin Beinart? Yes that. makes. More. Which? That's my darkhorse W may not know him, but you need to figure out. What's his name Miss Warner he's the southern sprinkle Pat. He Dude. He's like. Brian Perlman and Kofi Boston had a bait. It drew. How Wants Love Child? He's like he's just. All. Just news candidate. I love it. I love. That's my life. Then I am actually I. Think I hit chose Callahan is my champion I'm getting to the rainmaker. His just because. He's rainmaker have to. Washington politician you know that So Rob. What is the name of your team and we do? See, see, Brandon my team was picked last because I saw what these idiots did I found the is that they did find and I created the superpower steam with the WWe champion. Drew. McIntyre the A E W world champion Jon Moxley. the Mexican legend Pentagon Junior. the villain Mardi skirl less shall be on Chris Jericho. the I the former GP, intercontinental and world champion Tetsuya Naito my female competitor, the demon assassin rosemary, and the area assassin. I got a pair of assassins air the area assassin will offspring. What was the one after Jericho? After Jericho. The Villain Mardi. Girl. and the IB to to be a naito. Night. Oh. Okay. Pre Stay So Mr. The name of your team and people aren't. Right now. The Winning own. That's GONNA win. Let me tell you right now. The. Mba. Spears better. We're GONNA take it out. There's going gonNA. Be. Almost squat on vk. First of all, let me start there whatever quote a problem, but he had one shot. there. A. Champion of T. But. Three all true show management the RUPP by be last week and to change that have been there chose Meka Jane changing my mpn from Butch read a book not. Taken. Gone. Beyond. Baby Dolls. Champion. So. So. The team that you got to watch out for the real team here is called the Emerson family. Lives your stack. Eighteen. Raider. You have. Kevon Owens. You have Kenya Omega you hadn't read the Hitman hurt. Q.. Adam Cole A. You have. You have tripling. Alley and you have your stratus sex. Says, Marvin to bring. Heenan says you listen to me straightened office houses. If you don't listen to have you never heard from again. Are the fourteen now. The rules of the tournament are as follows. As the matchups come up. Each person will have one minute to make an argument for their particular wrestler. In the cases if you have two wrestlers, you can if you have two wrestlers that are opposing each other on your team, you can designate someone to act as a proxy for one of the wrestlers. I think that's fair for everybody. As Fair. The other the other three. Gentlemen that are not involved with the with the match are going to be the the. Committee to elect. The winner of the match and they will move onto the toilet. In agreement. With that being said, it is my pleasure. To announce the eight matches in the group one brackets. For the of Eight tournament here on a paradigm shift, ever going to start off with the first match and it's going to be Josh versus well. In this one. As our truth takes on jungle boy, Jack Perry. Cut. Seven eleven champion baby. I mean. That was. The issue there are you. Ready. Even know he's got so much potential here. I'm going to have to have the fight for my oil you. Might move onto the bottom half of the bracket. The winner of that match will take on the winner of a match. Involving wills wrestler and Jeans Wrestler. Give, ready for this wind guys the Rock. and. Rated R. Two. Lay. Down and Watch be a fight. Yes that's the. Next man talk about reading. Yes. We are GONNA have a lot of DRI matches there. There's a lot of dream matches they`re You GonNa WanNa see next week. So tune in to the AIDS tournament Liz Magic. This next match, this match number that's number three and group one. Our first inter-gender match is coming up now and it will put William Against Gene. As. Hard core. country. Becky James. Take side. Of the undisputed air, out. I'm calling upstate. Again this is this is this is this is totally random draw. What I heard is I got. I gave a lower number and I read the bracket, the number of times they all said their numbers for. So May. James Adam Cole William Versus Gene. The bottom half of that bracket is going to be another gene versus William Match. William Matt's. Every express here at it's going to it's going to be. The excellence of execution brought heart. against. Defy time WCW champion. Living. I'm going straight for the Juggler. Man. Earlier sitting. Emerson. We just put up the cage or do war games right now. Able You go either way I can see. Those guys when that match like they. Absolutely self. Mervyn I did a bottom half of the bracket now in group one. We have Joshua's darkhorse. Pick. As he called him dishonored psychopath. Manse Warner. You happy about that Josh move. You'RE NOT GONNA be you're. Not GonNa be because it's another member of the Emerson family and Group One. Has To take on the best out machine Kenny Omega. Die. The. Good. He's back. You're getting make up for it because here comes another dream. Match Ladies Gentlemen. The winner of warriner versus Omega is going to take on Josh's other another of joshes wrestler. The winner of Kazutaka Okada Against by man, the WWe champion drew McIntyre. Who? Scottish psychopath versus brain maker. That's. Sorry, but that's I need it actually Stephen Eyeballs. Yeah. That that would be great to say. Quick Rub. I'm sorry. That match the match that will end up being the Knicks natural. Whoever loses that to make. because. We can have a rematch. Clint we already counting out Manse Warner. I'm sorry I love my voice but it. Be the machine. Yes. There's a there's a word for that. It's called sacrificial lamb there. were. In one day. As you will probably have the credentials to go up against the mega but right now I'm sorry there's only one out there's always terminated. There's only one cleaner. Yep. That's true. That's true. Pick boy. offered. To Promo. So, I said I said in the beginning, there was only one match in the first round that I saw that somebody had two of their competitors. Going up against each other in the first round. And it's me. So we're. Going to get. Rosemary versus Mardi skirl. That actually. inter-gender matched out be a very, very young energetic match. Grosvenor win. Rosemary could win that one. So we were. I. I would say I'm going to designate for my for my proxy for that one to. Do that. So but I'll save that for next week but the winner of that match will take on this match. Josh versus gene. And this guy, this one might have some history to it but in re it, it's more intriguing. With that recent history between the two. So. Okay. This is GONNA be the battle out the throne maker versus a throat breaker. Cody versus triple eight. I teach other. down. Oh. My Gosh Oh man you. Really come down to who makes the best out of their admitted. To became. Absolutely. So that's together group winds. So let's move on to grow to. And Everything will be on the first night. We're going to see all these matches on the first night. Through sixteen on the first night yes. Absolutely. Absolutely, all right we'll be gone group to at the top of the bracket. It's gotta be my brother from another mother will. Take Me. Take on me and this one. And it's going to be shutting Benjamin Versus Jon, Moxley. Anybody's. Guess. Sign Up. Like like I could see everybody Moxie takes that but if will come out the right words and that one us. and. We. All right moving on the bottom half of that bracket, the winner Benjamin versus Moxley will take on. Being Jean going after this one. Alley versus will osprey. Blue that's probably to be sacrificial lamb. Agile. Camphor gene. Now versus the the bunny versus the assassin. The assassin I don't see. That one. I really don't. Funeral. Move. Easier end up doing a female version of the tournament. All females and one male in there I don't know. You don't have. They don't have easy wrote a house. Now absolutely absolutely south next next group in the bracket here will versus Josh. As we bring as we bring out. Hacksaw Butch Reed. As he takes on. The chairman of eighty W Shawn Spears. Back. That one guy. And now Shawn Spears Newest Gimmick he added the glove for Tabio. Will Is. GonNa come how good I talk on that one. Studio use your net wisely. Brandon, how you feeling about this ornaments so far? I'm very excited to be a judge. So so we got. Spirits in winner there are one and the other bracket Taytay. I don't know if this is sacrificial Aram or not, but it could be it. It's going to be gene versus Josh. It's fight. Owens. Fight. Kevin. Owens. Against the role model brick? Baker. Is Not. Walking away. As. Good as Batur is the role model. Owens just coming off of anything jumping on top that ends at. Up like brick could win that match, it would be like. We're going to have. It could be so. Bottom half of the group chew bracket starts off with without again. Well, purchase me on this one. As the Almighty. Bobby Lashley. Takes on. Beyond. Greece Jericho. The. I've got only. Last year. Too much wasn't. ESPN, shopping The Demo God. Old. Much above the. Much of. Last thing. Is after he was in the middle of his prime. Little just gotTa make sure that there's no Lou. Linda gets in there. Anyway you know. Look you know. We just gotTA. Make sure there's no orange juice anyway. That's what we gotta make certain. Winner of Lashley Jericho will take on the winner of this Josh Versus Wigan match up. Kevin von Erich versus Ron Simmons. On that match Kevin. No. Accident. He may he got it? That that's Telling. Telling you. So the final the final two matches in group to Jean versus me. As Trish stratus. That Sweden, NAITO Who? My Women Gun. Your I'll. And and this one is get this. One's is going to be the most intriguing for me because I know Josh is really GonNa talk with this and I'm getting ready to talk with this. It is the death machine Sami Callahan. Against Saito. Yet, oh. Junior next. Yes were. So. So. So go back. Go back. And look at somebody's matches that we got going. Right. Oh. My Gosh Man I mean. Let's. The right age the ROCKVILLE. That alone. Bravery versus bicker. Hard versus Booker T.. al-Qaeda versus McIntyre's Yeah Yep cody versus triple. H. The. Thrown bigger. Chains. My favorite versus. The my favorite ones, we John Boy in our truth. To. Be. Your talks. hilarious absolutely. As long as long as you remember that he's the twenty, four, seven, seven, eleven, forty, eight, seven, I, ninety, five, the. You. Know. The respondents. Blue Nineteen point you do. Lose. Archer that finally get when he gets to his destination. He just got our remember where what is destination? Nation. Milwaukee and Green Bay Wisconsin. Expect. But if you wanted to really really taught that match. Looking at our troops passed as the truth killings the two-time end up way champions. Serious. Guy. There was a guy that was needed and he came out and you show the reason why he wanted to. that. I don't have a real battle on that. It's going to be a tough one but promo. steamboat. Yeah feel clarity. has so much potential I just gotTa talk that. There is there's A. So I'm going to read three pack real quick for it I wish we had the graphic pointed up but we will have that next week. Our truth versus jungle boy, the rock versus edge mickie James Versus Adam Kobe Bake. Baby with. Bret Hart Versus Booker T. Manse more versus Kenny Omega. CZUCZKA Okada, versus drew McIntyre Rosemary versus mighty skirl and cody versus triploid stats grouping. Quick. Can we talk about real quick Oh Canada versus McIntyre Highlight of that I first night Deford. Bachelor highlight match rate. I'm sorry absolutely. Will the thing is is maximum one day we may be able to see. If. Can Can get? Okada. Come over I mean McIntyre could always leave and go to Japan. But yes, that's. The. Best chance. We have to get with. God. Tonight. Dramatic New Japan. An idea, right? That's where I wanted to go. Back to. Talk with this. Okay. So you. Can over in t he leaves he goes back to inch, and now he's the most dangerous thing in Japan a hallmark. Have you have you seen the video. Of the match I think was a I think recently, kanter versus Lance. Archer. Dental. That was that might be on Youtube but. Lance Archer is taunting. KANTA. And he said your name, your name is a do your name is a day Oh Tommy and planted slaps that shit. Got Out of your ass out of out of lands out of our tro much so that archer staggers. That hard McKinnon de like He. Like I was I. Don't think it was a punch. It was an open bay slap but he got him right ear. Just staggered him. Our. That west personal don't. Realize once again over Japan live to Japan guys use that Strom Style Doohan if you if you watch. Since cannot. To. T, there is the. Your look back and watch. Aj Styles Should snail? Chian stay that match. That's off. At wrestlemainia we did not get that the best thing that was. On January I. Man Like and they pulled such B. which. is any even the casual Bannon had at that point? And found AJ versus Shinsegei in JP. With no rain for. Just. That was for me personally that was the worst thing that ever happened in all of these all of these wrestling wars. Was the fact when access by impact. And kicked off new Japan's agree on the network that is the worst. That is the biggest tragedy. Not Tragedy. What's the word? I'm travesty. Getting. A travesty in wrestling I. Agree. I'm holding what brokers clear. Japan can find a new place here in the states to be on against. By world like I missed my new Japan I, need I need Sun. So I'm probably party pretty quested canceling WWe subscription and switching the new Japan. Welcome. To twenty. I can't even I. Don't use the listening I go to W. E. for is to watch old one when I'm having that can green to watch an old view which now Watch team me old stuff to I haven't seen before I'll. I'll I'll use it. For the last of the old WCW stuff. Yeah. Exactly. I can't. I'd rather I rather watch Okada Omega four nickel is that sixty two minute match. It's free. Now if you don't know if you haven't checked out the actual free version of the APP. Get it is English. So, yeah. We got some great matches coming next week. You really gotta turn into this as. It's going to be amazing and. The winner gets an unlimited five minutes to just say whatever they weren't in the first show in September absolutely right ever and if and hopefully brandon can talk to his. Sponsors on his other show the Bob that maybe they can get us a year's supply of pop rocks. that. A few emails, signatures away you. Go the winner of this tournament will give these cream. Just. This. Say absolutely whatever they want. For Five minutes I'm. Going to be. Demonstrate. I'm voting. Everything see this locally face for a second. ME. I. Okay. So so If. We're going to talk the brackets and everything how went out with your. Lovely way but. I feel bad that the person the team I feel bad for right now is will this team? Stake into the beginning will. No you know. It's going to build. I'll catch. It will. Get, US. Ready I. told you. A well well. One. When swipe the finger. And everything changes. I push my push, the button frank and I. We will. We underdog thing where. I think the at the end everybody's team at the matches are coming out. It's going to be three-match all over regardless of how. It rematch is all her. Thinking about the bitch because it's EPIC including the the the flash showing disarmament is going to be absolutely epic. Final four is GONNA be West which really going to get everybody tap to beat that final. So I'm going to put the new guy on the spot brandon I'm going to put you on the spot here based on the matches you've heard tonight based on two teams. Who Do you think is looking the best coming out of the first round and who do you think is looking at the worst. Of A great course Mr Edison newspaper. Man. That's that's why they pay me the medium sized black bear. Man. I would say. The first round gene. Coming in looking is looking the best of the worst. The best. The best. Okay. It's the best. All right WHO's looking to? The worst. Josh. New Year Wolf. We know the one thing for sure everybody has the potential to have eight wrestlers survive except for me because I'm the only one that got eight outdraw. Two of my two of my and. I don't know how that's GONNA go. So. I. I do have a couple of sacrificial lambs but I. Have a couple of these matchups. Ease. Leak take one or two of these guys all the way to the finals. And though I'm interested in in a couple of them, I'm already looking at like okay. Well that's gotta end up so that one's wash so I'm looking to the next. And that was now. I personally have picked my opinion sports champions for each team. Already. Aid. Any. Glenn. You may go into. Josh. Cody wrote. You. Will. Bobby Lashley. I'll. Gene. Virginia it's kind of a toss up. I'm a I'm a toss up between Kenny Omega in trip wage. Puzzles. But I'll go, Canada for the Canadian. For Rob. Out Probably, very excited about this. Pentagon junior. Yes Sir. I went with Naito. Because at the time that we picked up, they were he was the wgn intercontinental and he will and champion evil rules everything. It went bully club you know every everything is ego. Man, this is going to be one heck of a tournament even more pump than I was already is going to be awesome. WE'RE GONNA kick this thing off right next week we're GONNA if there wasn't if it was at night if it wasn't eighty degrees committee attic, I would put on the talks. For the final. Didn't Reno to open the event for very first night. The four of us who are managers of the team will be cutting a minute promo each and it's going to be here. You'll be able to see it live. It's going to be put together. I've put them altogether, but we'll have that up to. A next Wednesday so you can watch it be a nice little. For me to packet of each each of us trying to persuade. Fans on which team. For and we gotta get brandon involved as as as the old Sean Mooney Me knocker Whitney India Aces and Eights Control Center there to. Best. Brandon. In the ESIASON as control center he'll. Give. Match. Yes. play-by-play. WWe. Music. Ever. All. Right. 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Ric Flair & Mance Warner Join the Show

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Ric Flair & Mance Warner Join the Show

"If you don't know Sirius. Xm THAN LISTEN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They have it all and right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car for just one dollars go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe offer available to new series Xm streaming subscribers siriusxm. No car required. This is the busted open podcast. You can listen to the full show Monday through Saturday from nine. Am to noon eastern on Sirius. Xm Channel One fifty six. We'll come to the busted open podcast. This is Dave Greco on today's edition the world's strongest man. Wwe Hall of Famer World Champion and dot two but three different sports mark. Henry and I talk about the Roman reigns situation. If you haven't heard the breaking news that Roman reigns will not be a part of wrestlemainia thirty six obviously after that fight with Hakeem doesn't feel comfortable understandably with that battle and what's going on in the world right now so who is going to face Goldberg. We talk about that. Today's edition of the busted. Open podcast also this Sunday five thirty. Pm Eastern time thirty for thirty a replay of one of my favorite thirty for thirty S. The nature boy ric flair on. Espn so who talk about it. But the nature boy himself the greatest of all time Rick flair on a falls count anywhere Friday also. We talked to the southern psycho of M. L. W. Man's Warner joins us on today's edition. All that right now on the bus it open podcast man. It's hit our world markets. How we started today's show and you and I goofed around a lot. You know mark you and I more than anybody. We like to the like to joke around. Like to goof around and stuff like that even during this time. You'RE NOT GONNA YOU'RE NOT GONNA slow that down but man crazy times hit our world that's hit Wrestlemainia and think about think about wrestlemainia. You know the wwe counter our calendar you know. It's GonNa really hit me next Saturday mark when I know that man. This time last year we had our ten year anniversary party. We were supposed to be in Tampa celebrating with the busted open. Asian and you know now you know you and I are going to be watching Saturday and Sunday night just like everybody else on the wwe network because for the first time ever wrestlemainia is going to be performed in front of zero crowd. Just just unbelievable when you think about it. But now it's hit the performers as well and you know Roman reigns does not have the corona virus. I know there's a lot of people out there speculating. Obviously that is not true but he had that battle with leukemia. His second bout with Yuki Mia and you know he just came back a little over a year ago in his immune system is definitely compromised and he does not feel safe to perform at the performance center for Wrestlemainia. Thirty six so again like man like you know mark and in the world of pro wrestling. We've we've so. Oh my gosh you started talking about being compromise. Like let's say Roman reigns gets desires. He has to be on twenty four hour support to try to beat the beat because his immune systems can't fight it like I mean we're healthy human beings you and I that you know our immune systems thank God a strong and if we got it then we would have to be isolated and get treatments and do everything we can to. You know boost our own immune systems but he can't take emergency and vitamin C. and vitamins and nutrients to help yourself like it has to be chemically and wow just to sit here and think about that sitting in a hospital room on a respirator to help yourself breathe and all that kind of stuff man. That'd be brutal. Yeah it's it's you have to be safe this At this time right now everybody has to be very very careful to have to take the proper precautions and they have to be safe. And somebody like Roman reigns in that long battled to get back and I know it's wrestlemainia notes the biggest show of the year. But nothing as big as you know his life and his family and you know that's world that he has outside of the ring and you know that that cannot be compromised so no I don't think anyone about his wife his beautiful kids and the rest of his family. The last thing I want for them is to have a situation at it is where we lose a wrestler like any wrestler. Like if there's somebody that's sick right now Call US man. Let us know man. We'll pray for you. We'll we'll let the the nation know that you're ill and send you letters and like I mean we're we're family man. That's what we're supposed to do. I think that is is best to have a good sense of humor and to make light of situations and try to laugh through this because we all know how serious it is. Don't think for one second that we're joking ingest with joking to try to take your mind off of how serious this really really is and to bring some life and joy to you man like like. I said we love. Y'All and I hope that y'all realize what we're doing. Yeah we're trying to put a smile on your face during a really really difficult time and But you know like in the world depressing as we've said it just keeps rolling along. It's not stopping so now you have to adjust your Ju. Just cancel the matches. They're not a match with Goldberg. Who Do you put in its place? Do you change another matches. You know. Maybe there's a triple threat with with something else. I mean this is where the speculation begins. I'm I th I think. Roman reigns has proved himself. And I think I know from I self and I. I think I would think for most fans you know what they want that moment where Roman reigns holding that championship above his head because he's fought his way back and he deserves that opportunity. It's not going to happen at Wrestlemainia thirty six. You know. We've all talked about how. Hey the reason that they had Goldberg beat defeating Bray UAE and Saudi which man mark was not that long ago but with everything. That's happened in our world. Seems like it was ago man. It seems like it was a long long time ago. Is what a month ago you know. It's it's yeah it's been a at least five six months it's crazy. How how long ago that seems now because our lives in our world has changed so much in the last month but it was set up for Roman reigns to become champion again. That is not going to happen at wrestlemainia. Thirty six. So you know mark. I thought had a great idea at the beginning of the show and that is Matt. Riddle doesn't necessarily have to be Goldberg. Probably shouldn't have shouldn't be Goldberg but man why not give somebody like a Matt riddle super talented? Give him that opportunity to get that shine on a major show like wrestlemainia and it adds to the story. Everyone Wins Matt. Riddle wins because he has this opportunity. And you make a starring Matt Riddle and Roman reigns will ultimately win. Because when we get to the other side of this you'll billion ring with Goldberg and he'll get that championship that he deserves to me. Mark you set up a awesome win win situation for riddle for Roman and I think ultimately for the wwe fan and for Gobert because if easier to work with somebody that People WanNa see you work. They want US man. I love things that go together like peanut butter. I like Jelly like milk and cereal and I definitely like meat on my sandwiches. So you gotta be able to put things together that match go together that everybody wants to see it and Matt Riddle and Goldberg had an issue. Some of US based off when both that wasn't respecting them. You know you you overstepping your bounds like you haven't paid enough dues to be comfortable like that and whatever the case may be but I'm just saying if you have an issue and it's been a go to blows and it almost went to blows a couple of times. Yep Madame fight put together you know you got you got one match in an octagon. Hopefully you know what they can do with. Shane obeys. And then Becky Lynch and then you can turn around and have one more right behind it or have it before. Just a tune up and I don't know if you noticed the night but Wednesday. The camera angles that they used in on T. changed dramatically from last week. They did like how fast they go from. One shot to the other but more than anything. They raised the Jig the gear up which is a camera at moves. They raised it up. So is shooting down more than it has been in. The game is on. The floor are getting on Apron now so they can shoot more down at the ring and watching the camera shots. I was like brilliant. Does great you take the fact that you said you almost forgot that there was no people. Try and that's a lot of the reason why you forgot is because the way that they shot it. It eliminated most of it. I mean you saw. When they went out to the floor somebody got shot into the wall. And the same thing eighty w the people that are in the rigging in cameras and grips like those people. Earning their money right now. They're really earning their money because they have to come up or put together shots. Then look better. And the producers the MIC man series that World Kevin Dunn's. They've always earned their money. They're always good. They always produce a great product. But I guarantee you. They are experimenting with different shots and different techniques to make sure that they keep it fresh and and they're preparing a lot of these shots that we see that they're trying will be affected by the time wrestlemainia rolls around and I'm glad you said the preparation mark. Because you know one word that you have to preach is patients because nobody saw this coming in the wwe that they were going to be up against this and and you know it doesn't matter like everyone's like oh you know eighty w used this angle so the WWe is not going to do that because people are gonna say they copied he. W Nick come on these. I mean. Stop that like like you're going to do what's best for your viewer and when when you work at what's going on right now and and listen mark you talk about the production crew for the wwe. Everything is scaled down right now. You know there's only a certain amount of people that could be in the building. They don't have the same production trucks in the same staff that they normally have for a raw and smackdown to everything is scaled down like Marxists said like this is where they have to get clever. This is where they have to get innovative and as fans. Let's be patient and Mark said I could so true well. We saw an annex t Wednesday was far better than what we saw the weeks before. Why because hey? They weren't expecting it. Did it on the fly and now is the weeks are going by these talents and these are talented. People are finding more innovative ways to put this product on TV for you and I appreciate the effort and I think you're right now can appreciate the talent of these production people mark and not only that but the invention out of necessity is gonNA breathe for a greater program when all of this goes away. Think about how great these new camera angles and a new way of shooting is gonna add to pro wrestling. We're GONNA invention out of necessity is GonNa be better is going to make the product better. You actually have an audience and you have crap participation and you have people doing run INS and you have announced table that is owned stage as well as on the floor. There's a lot of things that's going to be brought out of this. That is going to be better for us. And I ask because as much as I've been involved in the creative process guys. I'm not involved anymore like I'm a fan just like you analyze it. Cover it I watch it and I try to figure out what is doing what is happening and explain to you what they're doing because my. I is trained to see what it is that it needs to be done and I feel like when I come home and try to give you something that you didn't see in every show and I think that's what we're doing today and we'll do it again tomorrow and I'm excited about it over. Most fans want that moment. Where Roman reigns is holding that championship. Above ed it's not going to happen at Wrestlemainia thirty six so now. You have to adjust Monday through Saturday. Nine to noon Eastern. You know this. I don't need I don't need to tell you this but A lifelong wrestling fan. I've been watching and following wrestling for almost forty years and you can ask anybody who's ever been a part of my life in the forty eight years that I've been on this earth. Who was my childhood hero whose reason why fell in love with pro wrestling and why? I created this show. And it's because of one man and that is the greatest of all time and he joins us now the nature boy ric flair. Mr Flare. Rick how are you great? I can't hear that opening enough. I'm true true and I say it every time I'm going to make that my ringtone timmy. How great I am again impact. He knows he knows. And and and one thing and there's so much to get into mark With ric flair but one of the the best documentaries that. I've ever seen and whatever the best thirty for thirty on. Espn is going to air. This Sunday. Evening at five thirty leading up to wrestlemainia thirty two after the great success. Mark that we talked about of Wrestlemainia thirty last weekend to make it even better this weekend on Sunday. Just before the airing of wrestlemainia thirty two we are going to see the replay of that thirty for thirty. If you missed it you get another chance to watch it and if you get to watch it again. Five thirty eastern time on. Espn at thirty for thirty on the nature boy ric flair and and I know. Rick that was probably very very hard for you to do but also just a great mainstream attention that you continue to get because of that thirty for thirty. Yeah you know it's funny I have never really got to talk about it because I was. You know a sick during the promotional period before it aired so When I thought in the first time I didn't even remember it because I just that was the first time I've been out of the house and I thought You know in in Atlanta. You're downtown but I I didn't remember it. I was just so that we'd haired September seventh. I had gotten out of the hospital. our November seventh. I've gotten out of the hospital or the hospital to a rehab place for a month because I couldn't walk and I couldn't even Swiss atop a diet coke so I spent a month wondering how to walk. And you know Years get myself back together. I would still real thin so but when I look at it later on they have you know maybe twice over the years at two years I remember. I was so reluctant and You know kind of exhausted because of problems with getting the week in You know they WANNA gay. Do some things that you want to do. They want to go to a gym and and ask him but we get which I'm sure they would have done. But you know rather than than than put all the effort in the world that I should have not realizing the opportunities that would present for me. I. I didn't do that and go to my son's grave which you're wanted me to do. I just felt I just did one exploit him you know and I and all that would have made it more understandable but I just didn't WanNa go exploiting him been tough enough to go back and do that again so there are things that you know. I think I could have done better. But it was As far as being honest I mean I've gotten taxes for people like Dana White. Jesus what a lights and I mean I. I Miss My. I was his John j-o-h-n of Eighty. I read the ticker tape on John. Just got us. I guess again so the ad is what I think. A lot of people didn't know about your life and when they saw the documentary and where you came from that thirty for thirty shed a lot of light on on who. You are as demand. Not just a wrestler. Was there any point any reservations? You had about people knowing where you started from no not at all. You know that it's been I my ex. Wife has has exhausted. That subject wanted me to dig into it. I just refused the job. What my adoption and all out with that. That was a story in itself. I mean it just went by. That became a huge issue because Joan Crawford apparently adopted from there or Shannon trial a lot of people that it was just really You know very strange situation highly illegal. I guess but You know I you know my. I was so happy with my mom and Dad. And that's the one thing that it didn't portray my mom and dad was the greatest vagueness they were stuck with me. Guys that thirty for thirty covered about one at one twenty of my life and mark. You know the man I want. You know what I would love to be able to sit down with you and me and Dave and just talk about your life like your upbringing like the because we. We don't have enough time in the day right now. I was a lifeguard at fifteen years old. That's all digitally kid and chie-jen Mommy. Mommy left guard Berar. Oh my God. That's so great and you know what I love about the thirty for thirty and again the thirty for thirty is going to re air on. Espn Sunday at five thirty PM eastern time just before Wrestlemainia thirty two on ESPN. And the one thing I love about it and I and I watched it again this morning before we sat down to interview is is that you know what obviously in anyone's life. There's things that you might want to change their things. You could have done differently but watching that documentary. Rick is that you know you loved your life like you know you'll love pro wrestling. You enjoy yourself. I mean you know even with everything that happened at least you know at the end of the day. You are happy with what you were doing. I mean I. I feel bad that I cracked on Wichita Kansas. Why got the whiplash back? I now but I loved I just love wrestling. I go into candidate city And I mean I I know a lot of guys but absurd that but back in that time if we wrestled in front of two hundred people it was a miracle I mean with that in those cons Kansas City itself was okay sometimes would get you know even three thousand people in the small if I was wrestling arly advise wrestling brody. I mean those two guys would we? Would we would sell out but and but they WANNA go. To the small towns brody would go to Wichita maybe once a year and Hollywood grow one cer- maybe twice. But I mean Bob. Bob became the booker. When Barnett gave it up and Bob Goggle and he. He's I go in there every four to five weeks man. That was a long week and I'd say at the Crowne Plaza downtown. Spend ten grand and I'd make eleven hundred dollars change Mateen was A guy that I just make the best out of it. I mean wrestling our In front of to wonder people man is rough and it Especially directly guys. You know better not Th they haven't done that because they're not ready to rest on our but that was the deal you lose your wrist on our out with the way it was up until the kill Fritz. You know fridge a lot to do with changes at around because The Great Binary family that you know just went through so much personal tragedy He said my boys aren't going to war now and and Eddie and avails is caved into. Brits they out that I did going on with all that I work with. But it they know they. It wasn't working. The hours weren't work it so they you know Dave Find Jill little bit once you find. Send everybody while you did it. They're here to there and I ended up. You know having to call Geigo every night and one guy go got charged instead of saying it was Sam would have never change but with guy goal was You know he'd call. What do you think you know? They won't Fritz wants to do this. I don't want to argue. I don't want to bother them. This is not what I signed up for. But I'm going to the things that you have to understand and like wrestling even understand what I'm talking about both of which you do but You know when you got a fight about what's GonNa be the finish every night if it can really drain you. Dr. Yeah Mark even even you know with the WWe or WCW. I mean come on what the Hell you the people are. GonNa Remember you for what you did in a ring. Winning losing me love Yes. World Championships means something. But you know it got to the pointed. Wcw Mark you had to be looking down from where you were with with the wwe stand. Jesus ridiculous the stuff. They're doing down there. I mean it just you know I mean no rhyme or reason and it just was you know. The staff at the end was just ridiculous. It was an insult to the business and in all do is an insult. Anyone that really really cared about their business when when when Rousseau and and Of the shop doing it together. Jesus guys I can't I mean I can. I help scratchy. Head scratch it. Yeah but I mean millions gene. Oakland I would drink fifteen martinez tonight. I went through two kidney transplants. But as soon as you mentally was Aga- virus it's brutal and So anyway But Anyway I answer questions I had too much fun guy I you know. I was the four horsemen and traveling around the great American Bash. Forty two days. We'd start in Baltimore and ended up in San Francisco. We you know with all wet and stated what hotel in Vegas we worked the Ad Love Vegas come back to Vegas I go back to Vegas. La Back to Vegas Albuquerque Reactor Vegas then run Vegas and that was the last one we stop at Kansas City halfway back that was the last one and man forty. Dvd's on the road with no sleep wieder products man with a lot of good. Lord of Manda. We have fun in Vegas. It would spring break and all the college girls. There is a go ahead to talk about college girls all day long. Rick the obviously stories when you're in those TBS studios on Saturday cutting those promos. You're just talking about the things that you did the night before. And hopefully and and you and you would think it you know those promos like on your car ride to studios and though it's amazing to me and mark this is for you to like. I don't think you guys realize US fans like hearing the hearing your promos or seeing your matches. How that how that stick with us and especially for you RECU. You know you're wrestling each. And every night of the week those matches for you were matches and then you went on to the next town and you perform for the people who were in attendance. Those memories stuck with them for a lifetime. I remember the first time I got to see you. Wrestle live in the memory is so vivid is February. Twenty four nineteen eighty five at the meadowlands. Because I'm a Jersey guy and I saw you and race in the main event for you that might have just been another mass but for me. You know that's something that will last for a lifetime and we got to get you know to the bigger markets. That was great for all of us. Don't make any mistake. We you know you know. Greens world was was where I came from Charlotte. And but you know going to Dallas and going in Philadelphia Baltimore and finally get a medal and ride wrestled staying. I wrestled slaughter their wrestled steamboats there and I wrestled Harley I mean you know that's when we're getting crowds like inexpensive probably and thousand people Lawrence Taylor sitting in front role. I mean it was it was. I thought it was I. I was thrilled to be there and I'm sure that everybody else was too because we were. You know we're we're expanding the opportunity and going places that we had never been So you know in Chicago. It's great to us to we just in the long run and just to follow the Turner thought before I lose a crock. It'd just stayed east of the Mississippi instead of insisting that would go back to California over over the they would still has a good chance. They would still be in business. Wow Wow because they just didn't have devious did not have the the density wherever the word is on the west coast that it does now. Doubt Vino proud. Tbs was strong all through the Midwest. Ohio Ohio we just couldn't we could. We couldn't get people in Rena. They were standing in a box of lock long every town from Columbus the date and you know all the way down it was just phenomenal Cincinnati. But I'll was found and then when finally got into Baltimore and you know it was just thrilled to be in front of new fans and and see the level of excitement that we were reading and hearing about what's going on with the WWF for wwe. Have you have you heard that time but the WWE so We were real. I was one of those kids. Those kids that me and my grandmother we went Lafayette Louisiana to walk to watch you wrestle and there was no more tickets and we turn around and drive back home bill. I bought those one of the worst things that ever happened to my house. I didn't get to see rick. Flair that It was great. I worked for Bill Only champions ever did bill like mint from when I met him. He's crazy when I first started. Minneapolis Vernon me. Run Errands. Form the victim Bill Watts airport one day and bring them to a show and I literally carry bills bag. You know that did bring anybody that was coming into town. Whatever burn wanted me to do guest during the foreknowledge breaking in so I was thrilled and guilt treated me good within our night bill to but it was You know with Butch Reed always with Jerry. Taylor was with de Devious Dick Murdoch. I mean guys really really perform at a high level and it was fun I mean they. They had some tremendous download their guys and it was You know bill bill when when one dog went to New York and then the free birds moved on. But I mean they add ricky more than the The Express Midnight Express and had to rock and Roll Express. And they're selling okay. Every night in those are rough fans to work in front of the tones. The sack yards brand. It's it was fun but I mean you know there was lots of entertainment after I Barr Rick. I think that you use. You should go down in history. This is another thing to add to your list of accolades I think that you are probably the greatest crossover entertainer in the history of the planet. There's there's nobody in music. There's nobody in Hollywood pro wrestling Olympic sports professional sports. That have touched more mediums at the same time. Then you have. Do you realize that I'm starting to realize it? I mean you know it's I've been You know I talked to Wayne and Danny Garcia does dwayne Iraq and Danny and Higher Garcia. And they're going to collaborate as last time I heard all this stuff and make a movie with the WB with being with that guy who who now is the WB doing a fabulous job who got a great background and you know as soon as everything gets rolling again after that make that movie and I I am looking forward to that Because I'll have you know a lot of important now. I've got a Tv show coming out Again when it gets going and missile actually. Tomo I about my life in eighties which will be you know. I don't know what might come on one in the morning rated double-leg told me the name is jade. I love the fact that because they're going to do a story on unique eighties. It's GonNa Change the whole rating system. We're GONNA have a double X. Oil rating for the Rick Story. Good out of your flight at Tokyo rolled back by just aerobic socks and dress shoes. Somebody they were five hours out. Why I Rick One last question and again you could. You could watch. Espn thirty for thirty this Sunday five thirty PM eastern time just before Wrestlemainia. Thirty two guys. If you haven't watched it already I can't recommend it enough again. The thirty for thirty the nature boy ric flair one last question from me recognize that you had the ultimate sendoff the hall of fame and then your final match with Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania twenty four. And then the Monday night raw right after the ultimate sent I mean the ultimate sendoff not only in pro wrestling but in professional sports. Nobody had a set off like it was. I mean I mean everybody cried watching that Somebody wasn't able to get that send-off that sting yeah. I know that you're a big fan and staying in his last match. Had that match. Seth rollins where he was injured and I know for staying. He wants to get that one last match. That one last moment Just to be able to to walk out of that ring with his head held high. I know he deserves it. Do you think he's able to do it? And would you like to see sting have just one more match so he can kind of have that moment or maybe even one more wrestlemainia moment? No one thinks more of Staying that I drove and I I haven't talked to him. Father surprise longest Ronald are talking and I was really looking forward to seeing him at mania. Probably haven't talked coming Easter for months. Now but Yeah Pete Medically if he's okay with us back and all that yeah. I'm was definitely love to see him back in the ring. One time I actually thought Because as you guys know Mark especially because you've got for living time off is your worst enemy into come right back and Russell at a high level against hunter. Who is the ring? General of above ring general. The guy that You know lean buddy around. I thought that They did okay. I didn't like what they did it for finished running people in an aunt. That's just my personal opinion. But he was having a hell of them anyway. You're not nets narrow. But he was having a Ella. But Seth rollins and set rounds you know I think you know one of the top guys in the business and incredibly down before he hurt his neck that night and that was the last time wrestler. But I do think for the guy like Seth rollins or Randy or somebody that Yeah you can have one more match. He stays in great shape And he's just really wanted to really good guys and our business and I think that I'm always in favor of guys like him. You know leaving at the highest possible level We can afford people in our business. Rick Oh don't I'm going to say I just I can't say goodbye. But thank you and your thanks having me on guide and again the thirty for thirty on Sunday five thirty PM eastern time on ESPN if you see that before watch it again. If you haven't it's a must see and that's GONNA lead right to Wrestlemainia thirty two. I say it every time we have gone if it wasn't for the nature boy ric flair. There wouldn't be a busted open. I would never have become the fan that I am so rick. Thank you for everything. You are truly the greatest of all time. Thank for screener tax. Mark My best you and your family you to take your tell him I said. Hi Will Love Sergeant. Get to see it many of this year. We'll just have to stay positive and we're going to beat this thing is and then we'll all get together in La. Okay or sooner. I Love I love it love yet. Rick thank you so much for everything. Stacy you thanks for all the respect. Thank you all right the nature boy ric flair. Wow if you don't know Sirius. Xm THAN UP Commercial Free Music Plus sports comedy talk and news. They had it all a lot of people. Think you need a car to enjoy Sirius. Xm But you don't. You can listen outside the car right now you can get your first three months of Sirius. Xm outside the car. Just one dollar just go to SIRIUSXM DOT com slash busted to see offer details and to subscribe. You can listen on your phone at home online that Sirius. Xm Dot com slash busted offer available to New Series Success Ching Subscribers Siriusxm. No car required so pleased to be joined. I mean let me tell you something mark first off before we bring in our guest. Msw is one of my favorite shows of the week. And it's a big favorite in the house now because I don't know if you've heard mark but m. l. w. is going to Poland. That's right it's GONNA be available in Poland so you know now. Msw Is a favourite of my wife. Violeta let's bring him in the southern psycho himself the one and only Manse Warner man's how are you man? I'm doing great. How do out there doing a great? I I would've thought they would've caused you to Tennessee Manson. Well they usually call me money for still appears and everything. But I go to work. I just love the fact that on on social media mark when I was promoting that Manson was joining us this morning. I just took a picture of bud. Light like post that up then and everybody knows who I'm talking about. It's man's warner because he's always to make sure that he's got a beer in hand and and we just saw it on M. L. W. T. V. Last week you sharing a beer in Philly with the blue meany I mean. That's a pretty cool moment right there. Manse is the best man I show. They Give Me Beers and they tell me go. Do whatever you WANNA do get paid money. It's amazing man. Life what a life you get to go and do whatever you want and drink beer. Whatever you've paid to fight people man I cannot I whether life it you know. It's funny Manse We just we just spoke to the nature boy ric flair before you joined us and you know and it sounds like mark when ric flair was talking to us. He pretty much did the same thing. You know he He went an hour in the ring and then he would go to the bar and he would have a good time and I think man. It's like when you look at your career right now with M. L. W. You could tell mean you are. You know you are the southern psycho and you have you have that edge but it also looks like you're having a good time and I think I think the W. Fan can tell that you have a lot of passion for what you do and ultimately you're having a good time which makes the fans have a good time as well. Oh Yes sir. I mean it's a connection to Tweeden in the stands that they could tell I bullshit them I show up I lie. I'm having a good time. I'm getting beers they're getting. I'm getting paid to fight people. You know it's Kinda Kinda gone crazy stuck in the house all day but other than that you know. I woke up. I did a little bit of work out. I had to breakfast beers on here. We can talk about whatever you WanNa talk about Breakfast Beers have. Have you experienced the lights which is coming on in the last five or six years I I watched some of your early career and I watch the stuff from last year and a half two now and I see a difference in the Rustler just in a matter of a couple of years from me? Doing my prep. And what do you what do you would? You attest those lights which is coming on from in the last year to have two years. Oh Yes sir I well for me. I've only been wrestling right around. I'd say four and a half years so for me it's It's getting onto road. Do a show. Every time that you can always be in there I mean right now like I said I'm stuck in the House all day man. All I'm doing is watching a wrestling all day long. So it's one of those things where if you're just consistently dipping your toes in water out there dipping your hands into blood. I'm always out to you. Know find view of what it is you know repetition over and over. Yeah I can see you know and as far back as I could go. I guess those matches that I saw. Excuse me we're early in your career so I've seen the maturation process. I seen now rather than they're just being a you put. Somebody threw a chair or table or death. Mask type situation. Now you're working where you're going to and as you you know if there's a Bob wire ropes rather than immediately just throwing somebody into the ropes. You work not going into the ropes. I'm Matiz Matiz Matiz. And those are the little bitty things of psychology that make you able to last even longer the more that you can do that. Sometimes it's GonNa feel like you're going slow and you're not doing enough. You're not giving the crowd enough but you're not you're giving everything by not giving them everything right away. And I love the fact that I see you maturing and doing better over the last year and a half to that is hopeful you know I wanna see even more of that stuff from you. Yes Sir I'M GONNA be calling here all time man from here. I thought about this. Call Him Man. You know we we WANNA help market and promote every wrestler. That won't sit and that's willing to wake up early like you had to wake up today and and And and talk talk the talk shop. I love for you to talk to Tommy Dreamer. He is an expert on working hardcore matches. And I'm sure that he could even shed more light than I can. I can see the quality of your work getting better and and You've been a better performer for your fans. But I'm sure at Tommy. Tommy Spend fifteen minutes with you and you'll come away from it like Holy Shit. I'm GONNA blow their minds and Bert. Yeah so many like definitely like call us keep in touch with us. I'm going to be following you more now. I've I've always love Emil W and I'm looking forward to seeing seeing young. They're more get a bigger platform. Yes yes thank you. And it's like mark just mentioned about you know m. l. w. and. I think that's a big difference to mark. Is that you mentioned about. That's when manse became a part of The W roster and you could really follow historian. Man's now that we obviously with everything that's going on in the world right now. You can't hit that. Msw Pay Window. So you're you're you're you're sitting at home and like you know what do you do? You mentioned that you know. You're you're watching a lotta wrestling and that's going to definitely help you along. But the world the pro wrestling in a lot of ways keeps on rolling but for a lot of people. You're stuck at home and can't leave your homes you. What can you do to keep yourself sharp? Keep yourself in shape and get ready for when you're back on the road again. We'LL SEE I. I'm trying to try to take a positive spin on this stuff. There's a lot of that stuff all you know a lot of things going on right now but. I'm trying to use the time that I have because when we're on the road to reduce shows we're always busy downtown. You're get catch a flight. You know so for me. I'm trying to be us all the time that I have now to talk to offer social media you know you're interacting with people more often. 'cause there's board as we are just sitting around okay so I've been doing You know more promos. More videos loaded on there trying to entertain people keep spirits up. Because it's not you know. We're just sitting around watching all the tiger king all day on the net flicks you go crazy and support and and again you watch 'em L. W. each and every weekend msw fusion on Sports. you know. Manse when you look at right now. What's going on and a lot of people you know for the for the wrestlers. That aren't a part of a major part of w or to wwe or even a part of them L. W. They rely a lot on their merchandise. How can how can people first of all a follow you? And also how people buy a man's Warner t-shirt where can they go? Where can they find more about you and buy some of your merchandise? We'll all social media. I got facebook instagram. I got a twitter putting a manslaughter. And it's all in there. You'll find it. You know W on Youtube. They got every episode. We've ever done you go in there and watch. La Park the park against old master. Jimmy Nick and an old man answering the barbed wire no rope barbed wire match. I think that broke records for TV. Show throw wrestling DOT com. I got all kinds of T. shirts on they're got cousy eight to put your fears in You know I'm getting some more More of a hats made up almost shipped him out. You know just trying to not go crazy out. Here sit around get hold prison workouts in with the with the trading cards whatnot and just kind of you know learn as much as I can stay. Sharp don't go nuts. They'll get no neighborhoods. Don't hit nobody for free brothers. Three against you locked in if they if I hear someone out here in the trailer court I'm going to sell the corner van bumping out there in Rhode. No no yet a bump card. You know you'd be extra bumps to the nothing with cheese on all kinds of stuff. I've definitely GONNA go and buy some shirts because you know. I got my mania shirt. Challenge is on day fifty three. I'm wearing a different pro wrestling shirt each. And every day going up to Wrestlemanias I gotta get that Fedex to my house. I gotta go buy some Manse Warner Merchandise again. Follow mance word or on social media and watch me. It's warner inaction on M. L. W. W. Fusion On sports each and every weekend. I'm addicted to it. I love him. Lwin Court Bauer does a tremendous job in one of my favorite personalities. One of my favorite characters. One of my favorite wrestlers is man's Warner and manse thank you so much for joining us on a falls count anywhere Friday like mark. Said you have an open invitation. You have an open invite anytime you want to join us. I I'd love to hear from you and I can't wait to were on the other side of this and then we can see you in action again. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 115: Keep Their Heads Ringin With Weapons (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 115: Keep Their Heads Ringin With Weapons (Preview)

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This is dumb but this is the neon Tarantino the zoo Baz Meccas Bay Abrahams himself the greatest director all all the professional wrestling Derek the director and you're listening to wrestling chairs so you like subscribe leave a good comment five stars whatever you want because rustling cheers is my favorites podcast podcast and all of Burly Ville way in the world today audio and how Hanway <hes> sometime where everybody John K that <music> hand welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially when your name is Felicia. This is wrestling chairs. We'd like to talk about things going on the northeast how independent wrestling seen we preview shows we review shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way. This is a preview episode for this Friday's A._i.. W Show keep their heads ringing which will be at the Odeon in Cleveland Ohio. I'm your host. Yes I am heavy set also known as just in summers and wrestling cheers is brought to you by the training topics network Midwest territory an key on sports. Please rate review and subscriber every listen this fine podcast whether it be apple podcasts Google podcast stitcher tune in on Youtube spotify iheartradio bobby wrestling cheers dot pie bean dot com you can find us on all your social media facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash ranchers twitter dot com slash restitution instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email. If you so choose desire wrestling ensures gmail.com and we have emerged or over at what a maneuver that natch like. I said this is a preview episode four A._M.. W keep their head ringing her head's ringing I should say and this is <hes> the annual rap show show every single year were all matches are fought under compton rules which means there's no rules which means they'll be weapons speaking of weapons. We have Kagan I well. I have weapons. Probably why <music> who see why why why probably why did you say on facebook. You will probably have weapons. Maybe give people come to the show. See your number probably like understand the probably that's like saying. We're probably probably going to have an episode this week. Nothing not the are making anything. That's that's a lie might just show up at a lie you bring weapons to two shows a year guaranteed. That's not counting the other shows that you happen to also bring weapons to to happen to you because I feel like making things hardcore manches. Why do you WanNa see people die? Eric Ryan that your goal you WanNa see air grind. I can't do that himself. South and it's true. He doesn't really need your help. Matthew Justice could God also on this episode. We got rick. How are ya I was in the parking lot on the way in I saw pickup truck full skating does that did you come in so that one that'd be like fifty thousand those falls in the back in that thing? I did nothing with that one. If Eric Ryan ends up being on this show you know how we throw stuff in for certain wrestlers. What if we just threw in forks idea yeah? It's it's not do that. It's not as bad as my wig idea for Dr Dan. I thought that would be whereas I thought that would be funny but everybody said it wasn't so if it was like a moped <hes> just trying to find a way to find a bunch of like cheap <hes> wicks Chinese cheap wigs throw him in there but it doesn't have the same nice effect as toilet paper and also cheaper. Can you make wake up in toilet paper in Kenya <hes> if it would explode a he's like figuring out can I put barb wire in it and light juifs. I'm like dude this Friday. You never know knocked off. That's technically lowered but I was given permission for Erica Ryan okay four four guide is a bad idea would if we when we throw in light bulbs features I would say late twos. Could you pitch the bunch of people throwing in late dupes yeah. They've been very bad. I've seen the way to throw toilet abor would not be would not be advisable to do that. People know even the toilet paper Nelson exactly and well. That's true half half the time people throw it too early. Even though we've we've gone this. How many times done for years doesn't people's don't figure out when to throw it anyway so we got this crazy fucking stat card just good God we were talking before the official recording in the weakest match on the card is Katie? Be Dan Housing Linden in 'em dog but it's nothing against them like dig at that whatsoever. That's going to be a fucking match but could God some of these are gonna be hard hit the rest of this card and <hes> so we're GonNa go to our normal previewing format where we preview three matches and then we will get into picks for all the matches straight down the line nine and let's start with the most recently matched announced and that is to infinity and beyond versus the Philly Marino experienced four that a I W tag team championships friendships P._M.. Has Been on the rise for the past fucking here year and a half two year ever since they debuted in w bit by bit getting more popular moreover hottest tag team in a a long time going up against the champions in P._M.. E kind of got screwed out of winning the titles recently. Could this be the night that they win. What do you think about this match Cayden? I would like to see new extra millions. Come on on you are the biggest to infinity beyond Fan. You're telling me that the between this toy story this year. This is the greatest year ever four years of them teaming together no more more. They haven't been champions champions. The whole time feels like it. They got beat by twins. They got beat by hot sauce entertainment. They got beat by Hot Sauce Entertainment Damon on a side though what was it it just <hes> they added like some new shows too <hes> I w T._V. and use it to get twenty days free sure if I got a kickback from that or for we gotta kick back from that but yet the definitely giving us that one that's what I use <hes> but the <hes> something that had hot sauce entertainment on it and I was just like I miss the I miss them so much contractor ones in Canada yeah it's sad but they were just together and then right there with them fucking to infant him beyond all the time net wasn't even the whole thing is that when I'm for how long like six months didn't they have back-back matches and absolution they're supposed to and then I think the the was the last time four <hes> Tyson dukes no he wasn't there. That's what I'm saying. The second will like that was the last like I met strike for Yeah Yeah. That's that's what I meant by last one my mom replace him that would have been agreed tag team to that didn't really last beat another up a couple of times and then one of them became champion. He's gone but I mean to infant beyond their. I say 'CAUSE I. I Love Colin but I wanted a tank team. I can't pretend we hate very tactic. Boy this constant title rain is annoying just went to see some different tag champs and had it stay that way for more than three months or do you think about this metric. I don't know if either one of you so most recent Promo that Philly Marino Reno <hes> just put out referencing this match but I'm going to have to agree with Philly Collins in this one where he just simply says fuck you Colin and Cheech because the boys are tired of getting screwed over was retired getting passed by. They're ready for their time. They're ready for their recognition. There as sick of colonnade cheech as the rest of us are and the good times good vibes thing goes so far. I think they're just ready to blow. Loa Colin Blow Up Cheech get rid of put them on the shelf for awhile and take their belts them hoping that that happens at the rap show anything goes you know you could go an eye for an eye with dirty garbage wrestling tricks that good old kitchen column might use and Cheech. You need to bring that shirt for PAT. You said that you're going to according to him but bring that R._V.. Issur this happens this would be the the show show to do it to have a p. The rap show probably wears the ring like Dickhead he did astier God damnit. I'm singer column each each. I'm fine with Colin and cheese but may like I could deal with them and has not been tactic champ having all I love college. He's so sick being hard to read like they stayed around and like still tagged but just going for the title. It's like not necessarily the warrant tag champs yeah like I would like an it to the fact that most of the time I was ahead W. Fan. I rarely seen Gargano in a absolute title match because he had Kinda surpassed it so he was in other matches working with other wrestlers. Can we get the same thing with college each like I love them but they need the ballots twenty four seven no Colin can be Jalen and teach single go find cloudy. He's somewhere New York. Does he still Russell who cares go find him on the way back. Grab your shirt. Bring it to some of that figure cayden cared because I was one of his his in the rivalries cloudy is actually real interesting to evacuate donahue cloudy brisk mix the next one of my list all started with Ethan Page actually will find that let that happen. I'd probably brought a sign and evening. Why getting yelled at me? Oh Yeah I mentioned before remember going for seven years right around the time of this reporting that's true. I think I'm about seven half. You were the couple months enemy on it but six I was hell on earth. He's months so more say about tag title match. I really wanted to be pm e but a new kind of forget to these are going to be have the compton roles match yes. We don't know how that's going to Indo oddities. What if what if you just had a bunch of tag teams come out and l. p. m. e. win? This turns it into <hes> four way scrambles to the votes. <hes> we have heaven forever. Maybe I missing. Something did what mainly weekend no not that. That's not what I met. I meant the I know. You're you're talking about yeah. This match was this match scheduled between these two people and then other people come out and it's like well. They're added to the mets now to twenty eleven era. I think the last time we seen it was twenty toots. Let in two thousand twelve roughly facade versus Colin. I think Fontaine came out or somewhere when he twelve. I think just yes Aramco twenty to me. was that ramp show Yup yes you you are correct because <hes> go back and watch that I think I've mentioned it. Watch what Fontaine says right before he leaves. It's a precursor a teaser to what's going to happen with his character going in jail it when he bring when he invents the wrestling character and even the early day the rest and character it more really fun yet like even early on like he when he debuted in twenty twelve like he still had more work to do to it but still great still oh great. He wasn't doing that ever. No it was like an A._i.. W exclusive type thing a. w. and then old I think when I think when prime shutdown that was like that was the end of the Megastar still sad ahead about it helped me to while him anyway. Let's let's get into the next night. Random your knowledge always four trust me. We miss when you're not we miss when you're not even on the part <hes> the episode for an interview Foggin writer recall you out wondering where when you were knowing that certain facts or something. I believe it was right to read. I can't remember all bunning together anyway. I'm wrestling encyclopedia. The youngest Houston's emails outside of wrestling the youngest useless replica encyclopedia <hes> let's move onto the intense title-match Joshua Bishop versus Matthew Justice in the the upset that some of us the necessarily see coming at gauntlet for the Gold Charro bishops the new W intense champion dodger whereas my body in the mail call these things I know I know be works. ANTUNA started <unk> Rhonda Company so Cayden what <hes> demonic devices do you have prepared for this match off. You'll see 'cause if if any match on this card was going to have weapons this is the top I'd say top three. Maybe top one but I have to others tie top one top one okay. I also kind of had Johnston Dom. Maybe maybe cutrier's. Maybe you're going to do a die. They're glass natural very calm in comparison what this is GonNa be towed. You already know yet ashore stirring up. No disqualification and fans are encouraged to bring weapon her a fan encouraged to bring many weapons. We ever give Russell Credit. Do we know which one is more sick. Britain's tack fat's Egan's credit for poppers being thing now <hes> shrew <unk> Steve India horrific explosion bat a glance minute an idea because we couldn't bring stuff made wrestlers believed Jewish said blow people instead so you've had tax you've had poppers bottle caps. <hes> obviously light soups. That's a pretty pretty big one debut in something else she's stop. Danish should never be altered restful <hes> lighter fluid and fire. I that's a given that should be voted. Deep debt very far away to let the Joshua Bishop speaking of the Smiths Joshua no lighting people on Flyer Bishop. You've no justice O'Brien just go with how cod Tony White people firefly's is okay will fire being this match we have recently both competitors have used or attempted to use fire Oh boy I didn't even thinking Eh. What do you think rick? What do you think rick no fire for the love of God no fire? Why not I I know because I don't want to be in one of these little concert clubs love somebody decides the light the damn place on fire great white and all over the place? It's it's no stopped. If you saw the video of John the Ethan Page took of John Doran space at Russell Raver when the table got lit on on fire. They said well we burned. We just lost another venue. We got we got jailed at the audience. We have to be on our best behavior on Friday so we get to keep Jalen right where it's at guys don't need fire. CADENCE got enough. You've got to cause the venue tax and forks and Turkey bazars. This guy's got everything. It's my fault if we moved the venue me Yeah Syringes and no I'm sorry it's got some catheter things in the GonNa go full mountie and bring the cattle prod. Oh my Gosh Skull Anita Severn exploding rain. Let's go. I don't know what's wrong with you but whatever never knows order since he bring weapons today for someone to take his no. No one has to you chose someone has to do. I think just as ambitious can think of enough things to do to each other without a plethora of weapons justices the state champion so canes GonNa Show with a pitch for Satan champion needs fire being <unk>. That's true carefully might actually kill someone now. I WANNA belt murdered. Someone in pinned demand anymore thoughts on this batch. This match was gonNA. It's going to be dumb and all the right reason yeah if you're standing if you're in the front row just public service service announcement to move get out of the wet. I'm asking me and you're dumb. Just don't move there in danger apartment justice last year. It wasn't a I have a fever of matthew just because I was a watch yes tonight one night to whatever we got into what he almost got into one of those spots you could just got up was like nope. NOPE NOPE nope yeah. I still do not do this anymore. Not a small man. Don't try to divine to police. It's fun very breakable stale who knows just as might take after Jamila punching fans at the last the last event you might be high up on the list there. Can you better watch yourself sign up for this. I sit front row yeah. We've all taken. Her pumps improves to sit in front row and the longer longer you're. In front of the more likely something's GonNa Happen. I think for the ones it's a little bit of a badge of Honor Kate has his Cayden has his get kicked in the face moments heavyset. I know yet you've got into the base by people all right. I've had a couple McDonald's kicked in the face. The one that I remember clearly was Kessler Radio and across body to join Genoa right in front of me and I have a video of it and it's like you you see like the boot hit me were right right and the chest. She felt sorry about like it's fine. I was just committing to get the video by paid for it. I our entire group old. God We just Lost Summers Michael's gone again I still have by I I still have my fucked up to- from <unk> landed on me and broken at the <hes> when he wrestled Laredo. Oh Gosh at fucking night sucked so yeah she said from her fi you're listening to this and you haven't swivel yeah well head on civil. <hes> I think one of my favorite ones Kevin he <hes> one of the front row fans. This was back in terms holiday. He was like betting over like pick something up out of his bag and somebody I don't remember the match nothing someone came towards the the guardrail and his the guardrail hit his head like that saw. It's fun to laugh about now because it's obviously because he's fine but at the time it was like Oh shit you got a concussion like shit. I remember that actually well. Yes guardrails aren't fun now matched if W had no guardrails and there was one of those companies that decided to do that yeah heads better. We have them because alcohol reasons are mania. Mania was bad enough sitting in the front row Janatha all those frigging maniacs going it was terrifying. I was watching all of them. Someone's No one's GonNa get in the ring if they did that. Somebody would probably want to get the ring because you don't have to worry about jumping guard guardrails. Not there instead you try to climb in the ring. It's yet to accessible hit your knee on the sign during it sucks at times. It's not fun all right. Let's get into the our third match. We're GONNA preview and we're sticking with title matches because hey all the real well then all three title matches around the card. We have the A it w absolute title match filthy Tom Lawler with his first title defence versus Manse Warner these fantastic I I'll defense I am until now I forgot that this is going to be content rules rules. You're GONNA have the Duke Ringside the flux going to happen. What do you think Rick <hes> hopefully at some point in the match Tom Lawler? I'll get his hands on the Duke because we all WanNa see that because fuck the duke. Nobody likes that guy but I can't fuck them up to bed because he has somewhere to be on Saturday. No I'm okay with the he can. He can come limping into that place. <hes> manses completely over with the w faithful amine we a frequent love bands and I would venture to say that most of US freaking lawler as well. It's kind of interesting because it's one of these ones where manse can can wrestle yet and man's can do the crazy shit like that you know the nick gage breaking light tubes the staple in your your face to somebody else to needy or whatever the hell that that stuff all was. We've seen lawler. Do some crazy stuff with Tom but he's more of a you know US himself as a weapon Kinda guy or Harrap is R- <unk> around arms around your neck and squeezed until you head POPs gazette so I don't know what I don't know what style we're going to see. I you know I don't know if we're GONNA see baller use weapons on the man's. Try to wrestle so it's a big question mark to me but it's all notes every forget fantastic. What are you kidding? There's more turn into a fight. It's going to be fun. Don't get me wrong again. There's a factor the weapons to and there's also the duke factor which has been brought up Manson's coming off the momentum of beating Kingston at Gauntlet which they wanNA callistus. He's technically the first person outside of Otani to be Kingston year so that's something well yeah Azazel be a war at rightfully so with these two fucking competitors filthy. Tom Is just that dude who is downright bad ass and he's been w faithful his whole time he hasn't been here as as long as you would think what. We're at two three years to two years. That's not really that log. If you want to think about it two years champ that will I'm in two years and then becoming champion who who else is take him at fucking road even page heat donald or the only to the I can think yeah I think I'm just thinking of previous absolute champions and I'm not even counting the other ones. I guess you could be within the first year or so maybe one or the other ones with absolute. I even think Alexander it was a lie. What about what about the we just talked about him hot sauce but though I think I was a little bit over two years yeah I was closer to three? I think that was or maybe even longer because he was he was tagged tagging awhile to like eating when about all last year <hes> debuted in twenty fifty so you don't have to be just dunston page which I mean that's good company to be in. That's meanwhile you do title range for those two those to the most. They're both three-time think see this is where we need the other Encyclopedia Wadsworth. I'm going to fact check myself here. Hold on a second but I'm pretty sure it is three but I just need to cutting going back to where you were saying Rick. The thing is about like man's. He's been over as Fox since day one the incoming in A._i.. W Like I'll never forget the show that he debuted in he was over it almost instantly and it's been the same ever since men's gets over wherever he goes. I haven't seen bad reaction. Demands Warner anywhere on any of these INDIES HAL even M._S._w.. Where people may or may not I know who he is? He's just he's he's over everywhere. He deserves it. I mean he's Oh yeah forget great manses. I would probably say top. I'm GonNa say just through what I'm thinking about like top three. There might be more the top three like instantly loved wrestlers and I'm pulling here. I'm putting him up there with space monkey and as tag team putting them as one as peony. I've never I've never seen a bit like P._m.. Is the one in particular that I've seen them debut in two different markets besides w and people just fell in love with them instantly so I don't I don't. I don't think that happens many place especially especially at W.. Because there's been a lot of times when we had this has been talked about where like Kate. Can you remember when Josh Alexander debuted in. It was Kinda like we don't know if we like your hate. You get walls like show us what you've got and like that first match because I'd rewatching edge Schori's only point yeah. It is time like this nice golf clamp type reaction for yeah I think at the end of the match like he proved all right good. This is awesome like Clap Ethan page two eight to use those two together because you know how connected they are computer thing like three or four months at each other but I'm saying with Ethan page. It was kind of the same thing him coming out girls night out show pre show match against airline and yeah that's against their grand match was what announced the day that you before or the day off day before yeah. It's what I was thinking started following really so. I can't tell you about the match announcement but he was another dude like instincts of okay. We'll see what you got. He and he came up a lot of confidence and by the end of the match like my looks at now with w well loved and it's got on from there on related note I was correct both Johnston even three time absolute champions and that's the most yet no one else is real ruin. KOMO's everybody's a one one or air grind has to okay so filthy stonewaller and man's Warner. It's GonNa be a fun what I'm going to be tired. Fuck by the time that match goes but fund nonetheless all right. We're going wanting to go into a quick commercial break. Be Right back and we're going to go over the rest of the car. Are you tired of the same old pro wrestling than check out the amazing action on Power Slam Dot TV the biggest indie pro wrestling sling channel in the world get over four thousand hours of the best pro wrestling events from over one hundred ten of the biggest names in the industry from over fifteen countries around the globe. Get your free trial to date at Power Slam Dot T. V. So let's start off with the first match announced Lucia brothers versus a always from Jolly Ville Voegeli Buckets Nasty Bras uh-huh WanNa call now eight but nasty Ross and T- money good <hes> this is definitely one of those shows that you start off with a bang. We knew the Lucci brothers we're going to be in a match and you just announced it against the fuck. It's this do talk about brutal and last time we seen Pentagon junior and hey w was one of my favorite openings of a match ever he comes out and then he waits by the entrance for railroad come out and he kicks his ass and it's just nothing about a fight from there on so now we're getting. The TAG team so this'll be fun. Who Do you got one in Rick? A loser brothers coming in there. Those boys are all over the place. They got the big Ole fete contracts. They're gonNA they're going to be the winners. How about you kidding yeah yeah? It's easy to sang for jolly fantastic match west participant glad to see Phoenix getting shot. I know you fly away not putting that like he knew or anything but I'm glad he's gone with Flannigan on this time Yup. I'm going to have to go through your brothers to there's no way you you lose a match one week before dubber nothing next up. We have what's really interesting match. 'EM J. F. F- Maxwell Jacob Friedman Versus Josh Prohibition Who Radio In this Cayden on probation he's on his kind of like a return ron now after be an off for off <music> off wrestling for quite a while. How about you rick I I see it the other way <hes> M J F has the X. factor in a gentleman named big Thuan Tucker who is now taken the <hes> bodyguard role of 'em Jaffa over in a I W I think with copter rules that enes to on one so M J F gets the win both these guys but N J F is kind of an on a an old man beating tour so I think he's going to binge April next up? We have K- T._B.. Versus Dan Hausen versus Lewis Linden versus. 'em Dog Matt Cross. I'M GONNA start off this one. I'm I'M GONNA go Kay T._B.. Eric I was going to go K._T.. Be as well but I think we should spread out our money on this one a little bit. I'm GonNa Take Mat Cross that cross you know took the loss to prohibition <hes> this this might be see something for him to prove so. Let's we'll cross have. Are you kidding me. Go with Dan House and I was going to pick Dan Housing but I duNno Katy B between the time we all pick three different people in a four away the one we didn't pick one so congrats Lewis Linden on winning the match next up. We have Tim Don's versus Dominic Greenie. <hes> this is a match that we almost talked about and I'm looking forward to this one last time. I said I was looking forward to it. Tim Downs match but Don's versus Greenie. I'm GONNA go Greenie. Who Do you got caitlyn Jenner? Go with Greeny. This is going to be wrestling match one hundred percent for two noti youth thing. They're just going to wrestle so `damas wrestling. Who Do you got down? Do you got rick under Compton. Roles Dominic needs some damn shoes because there's GonNa be enough stuff that canes already got in the rain at this point that he's going to need to avoid that notwithstanding. I'M GONNA take dominic next up. We have nick gage versus Eddie fucking Kingston. If you WANNA know our in depth thoughts on this match go back to the last preview episode where we preview this match yeah well it didn't happen because negage was at a wedding so instead of getting it then we get it now. We get it under compton rules so there's someone might actually guy. I'm GonNa go oh with Eddie Kingston. Who Do you got rick? I do not bet against the king therefore I will take Nick Gage. I mean they're both kings into specify which won the King Nick Gage not not though that that all the mad king mad mad king yes sure diamonds whatever King King of running children over with his car. Who Do you kidding go Kingston? Get him going to roll again before absolution next up the A. W. Tag team championship match to infinity beyond versus the Philly Marino experience tell them wrong long to invent need beyond winds l._o._l.. Cayden yeah so who's that does he knew tag champs doubt about uric fuck you Collina Colonna Cheech p. m. e. win next up. We Have Joshua Bishop Verses Matthew Justice for the A._I.. W intense title a rematch from last month I'm GonNa continue on with the of an reign of the new champion Joshua Bishop and of course we ought to point out to that there's a new graphic for for Joshua Bishop and what are you kidding yeah bishops retaining he's not disaster the Matt to justice. They're gonNA kill each other for more months three Eric. It's all about the X. Factor maserati Berkeley helping bishop to retain next up. We have filthy. Tom lawler versus mance Warner for the A W absolute championship. I gotta go filthy. Tom Who'd he got rick. Well I am going to I mean. I don't WANNA pick against Tom lawler but I think it's all going to come down to Eddie Kingston at absolution taking on Mansa Warner for the title someting. I'M GONNA say man's polls. The upset here cade. I'm saying lawler retains be fantastic. Advance wins of not GonNa Complain to add one because my answers a star. We don't see it happening right. That's I believe we got all the match. That's the pick all the picks for this Friday. Show keep their head with ring and from a I W as Friday may seventeenth length seven thirty bell time at Odeon and <hes> yeah this is going to be all the matches are under competent rules. Any final thoughts are last minute plugs about the show or whatever <hes> start with cayden nothing north different than usual case V._R.. To one six on whatever social media use or care to follow me and I may go wrestling gifts sometimes. How about you rick? We are going to have some fun at a I W on Friday we are going to have some fun at U.. X. W. A. on Saturday. We're going to watch matt. Justice beat the hell out of the Duke. Kane is going to be there to live gifts all of the carnage of met Justice beating the living hell l. out of the Duke so that'll be yes. 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WeWatchWrestling Issue #310

We Watch Wrestling

1:30:36 hr | 1 year ago

WeWatchWrestling Issue #310

"This is a head gum podcast uh-huh. Eh you watch wrestling. A spanish friends welcomed well. Hello there friends foes heels. Baby faces reveries timekeepers all welcome the we watch wrestling cod casts even timekeepers. This is wrestling mccarthy with me prowrestler encyclopedia vince april. We're getting down to man the summer is it's waxing and waning and <hes> cannot impress upon you too much but next week are the big show's all yeah hey los angeles. Get your tickets now or risk being shutout that we're getting it's it's once again. We're getting down a nut and time jim cornet would say <hes>. Is this thing's about to sell out. I don't want anybody to be left out in the an alert in the dust out on the on the corner of mysteries and i'm beverley the i want you out beverly. Look it in like a like a like a street urchin and then of course chicago on the thirtieth midnight after eight. Hey w all all weekends unprecedented midnight show that's right like the fucking rocky horror exactly man like like the room when you know people will be singing along. Oh hi danny yeah man l. o. Dog what a crazy story so you're a you're. You're going to be in town for the jacob your your whatever you coming to see our show security ticket ticket now this <hes> this is your penultimate warning and it may be sold by the time you hear the show next living under a rock so people are watching watching this right now because <hes> on the patriot eight adriaan. If you put five bucks in man you can watch <hes> the first part of the show every week. That's right man and i just a dollar. You get an extra episode which that's coming out on friday. That's true we fabricated live nat. All is food original idea for the show was why don't we have vince tell the truth. Why don't we just had vince tell the truth. Why don't we watch wrestling and then it turned into <hes> here. We are here. We are the special thing we talk about watching. Let me tell you man. I don't wanna you know. I don't want to sound like meltzer. I'm not we're gonna pretend. I'm not coughing. He's got a little bit of vince mcmahon in them. Doesn't he. Well i think he realizes it's not good. It's like you know you ah do that. We're on a plane or something and you're like i got. I can't keep coughing like this. People are gonna get mad. I i still don't understand what the setup is that they do because sometimes like the lose well. We lost dave now. He's on the phone skype. I think they start on skype. Does he have a headset on or something. It's just there's something where where it's like you can just you know he's got the janet jackson mike and then he's like. That's what i'm wondering rally. That's what i'm wondering because it's like or or we need to when we start when we start the process of digitizing the tapes yes. A lot of conversations are going on. We're really trying to get this done negotiations that right associations association's write formal letters while were there. Maybe we install a cough button litigation can we can we go down to florida. Get gordon soule's cough button. The dave already has it. I i i haven't button. It just doesn't work. I i just the promises. I never have to cough. Never got hooked been says right. It's the sign of weakness cygnus. I don't wanna sound like meltzer but you need a coffee now. I'm so glad the g. ones over to match which wasn't too much. It was just a lot yeah. It was i i it was like it was it was so good many too good you know yeah but the fuck and it's it's quite a clip to work at the volume. I can't believe how much of it i actually watched yeah watched but the happy birthday by the way it was vince is birthday on monday kids. Thank you man. Thank you but the <hes> and i i was just thinking about it like like i was listening to the the six zero five super podcast talking about harley race <hes> and i was like man. You know what this is so exciting. I can just relax i can like i just feel like i can watch any any wrestling. I want you have more time to to to you know suck out nick gage right so i just want. I'm a hugger so i just want to who <hes> like. I'm like brilliant of course nick ages. A hugger carlos asked if he could hug nick gage after the show carlos was it before suburban fight starbucks i think before i think it was when he was up there with us in the like that balcony and what did he say <hes> you know i think carlos loves nick gage each and and i'm. I'm a much bigger fan than i have been. Oh yeah for that but <hes> causes that man can i give you hug and he kind of stepped back and jamie little his hands through his chest from a mugger he was emma hugger. Good news courses negate when he comes out he jet. He genuinely looks like surprised and touched that people are cheering for me. Wow man's excited but i the only move as much as i enjoyed his work in the ring that night at g._w. Yeah watching him. Watch suburban fight was the highlight the show yeah he so. After there was a suburban fight show <hes> new room new rules no rules but it was fucking good and <hes> but gauge was just hanging out because he wasn't he was no room no room no rule. That was a that was a tight man. I got to see him. <hes> one one of our <hes> fabled rocker guys who we originally met at p._c. W i saw him <hes> offer gauge a spicy pork ryan and gauge accepted and i. I like that got to love it. The hot tub got involved in a in the jihad hot tub was working overtime on friday man he had the kid ring announced he had to bringing out for juicy w and then gioja de la demanded that he put he's like he's like if you don't put jimmy lloyd in a bear hug you never gonna fucking announcer g c w. ever again so hot tub very reluctantly he gets up there and no choice had no choice he puts jimmy lloyd in in a bear hug and then somehow you slipped wound up on top of daba. Jimmy lloyd fell flat on his back up just crashed on top of him. It was elation relations in the hot tub guy. Check him out on youtube if you don't if you're not familiar to sean two cents that's right on twitter so cow pro wrestling staple. Let let me tell you something impact. If you're running nine pro wrestling show in southern california and the hot tub guy eight there y'all done fucked up well see what's the hot tub a guy there impact not the show i was at but but also i i didn't notice when i sort of talked about having been there. I knew almost nobody there. I saw a couple. I'm familiar faces yeah but it was like a whole different crowd impact man. A different crew runs run jeff pop t._v. or would i guess so now. What are they on now. The run like trivial pursuit channel pursuit right only in wrestling. Do you find out about new networks. I know you're you're never like oh. I got the show coming on. It's on on some shit. That's why a._w._s. Like some people like what's the big fucking deal. It's like because they're on t._n._t. Yeah yeah luck in. My mom watches t._n._t. <hes> the pattern hasn't even known mom watches t._n._t. Hey i'm mom watches t._n._t. She it so yeah man. I gotta lot done listened to a lot of good stuff. I watched a lot of great stuff. If i <hes> i listened to the hulk hogan steve austin interview good lord while so we're standing back there dude visits like do you think you control money with this guy and i looked at the curtain and i you know i looked at macho man. I was like <hes> then. I elizabeth i go. Who's the girl i can draw money with. Her wanted to do cage match with elizabeth. <hes> it was incredible. He holds all the shitty is oh my god man. He wanted to hollywood hogan waxed paper. That was me rapid sandwiches in it steve. You know it would be dude. I was the one that put the sandwich in the waxed paper then put the tin foil over brother. It's a car but it runs on electricity not gas a surveillance. We could do this boop. Hey what's going on. Dude you ever been on one of those scooters man. You gotta push with your feet. What if we had a system of gyros. You could just stand on it. You could just say to the next fuck in place that you're going to aid eight. That's what we'll call him and call the segue. Dude you point your phone at a and and then you're adding. I love the idea of like hogan turning into john travolta in the movie. <hes> what's the movie where he like. Did he get abducted by aliens. What's going on become super smart. What is that movie where you're not talking about the fucking scientology movie now well <hes> maybe every side well. You know what i'm talking about not not not battlefield army field earth no no no no. I imagine hogan's hogan's saw the trailer for liar. Liar is before oh jesus man all god. Did you see that like really heavy drama where a guy has to tell the truth all the time. Mike fucks up his life. What the fuck is. What's the name of the travolta. Dude come on man. I like the idea of southern neighbour some travolta head up there screaming gets called blah blah blah blah fucking. <hes> travolta is now enough. I love the idea of non. I don't know why i definitely saw phenomenon a bunch of time. Oh like i definitely saw in the theater and then one must not have been going on at the time shit but you know the premise of the movie right he he suddenly suddenly gets like super smart and then they're like aliens. What is it now. I mean i i recall the film existing that the name is about all i got for you i just but he starts coming up with amazing ideas and stuff. I just love a remake of that movie. Starring hulk hogan worship boop it was going onto. I figured out a different layover your parking lot. You could fit at fifty more cars. No deans man no dings. It's called a microwave. I also i ah so you gotta. Do you hold this thing your mouth and you say hey hogan and answer any questions. It almost killed me. You can't do that shit when i got him out. I didn't know you had a man. I thought you were done only one way to go with that ulster <unk>. How far is it to the moon. Will it be up. Dude organise alexa. Hey auster. Yes yes <hes> some good way way way. I love that <hes> hogan buried brutus very quickly. Oh yeah has it been ten minutes man who spent thirteen and a half patriots calcutta off. I was feel bad every time yeah. We gave all we gave them all. It would take four weeks to upload <hes> the best part of this now. Kids as vinci's phone is on the tripod at least five times while record. He's gonna get a look on his face like the flex my phone the vamp vamp the <hes>. I love that. He buried bruce because he's like man. Let me tell you dude d- macho man was my best friend. We reconciled right before he died. He was actually on the phone with me. That's why it crashed the car brother but the fuck and he's like very quickly. He's he he. He throws in like he's like. He's like well. Macho man randy was my best friend. He's like oh shit shit. Everybody knows that bruce beefcakes. My best friend got him a job and every territory ever worked my whole fucking life better berry that guy real quick barium like brutus was just like a puppy. He was like a lost puppy. Follow me around. I was fucking his sister. The i'll let them follow me around to the beach. We don't we were going to the beach town. We'd be there at eight giannis daughter. Oh my god kathleen gone sweet girl great girl shed greg's face though go to catch heat for that steve. He's the one who made the call on kevin owens did you i. I don't know where it was now <hes> but there was a really bad at it where you could tell that something oh i didn't even because i was doing other stuff like i i was driving along because i listened to that thing <hes> over a couple of different times and you studied that eat it like the n._f._l. But there was just something like that was a fucking that was clearly a an an edit that rob sibley would have made a much more seem boy. Oh boy oh boy son of a bitch dude <hes> summer slam the even watch it. I watched <hes>. I watched the main event yeah <hes> i thought it was good good show and oh no no no. I watched goldberg goldberg match and i watched the main event level bird. I love old dudes with big muzzles dude. You just didn't have time to fuck in along. Is that fucking. Did you watch the whole thing i did. I didn't watch any. I didn't see the pre show but i watch because as as you know i was saving my birthday party during slam right but <hes> after doesn't that say something i had show right dude ida show that night and i ran into my buddy chad chad who used to work w._c._w. Openness the guy with white store wide yup yup because no the classic. That's a fucking classic. I know we have new listeners all the time so i'll just it's such a good story off. I can tell a very quick plan. This was after bobby. Duncan junior died and they were in <hes> <hes> catering and he was talking to a mark star. Yeah big big poppa pump yeah and <hes>. He said <hes> he was like oh man. You know <hes>. I can't believe <hes> bobby outs. He was just here. You know he who says you know he said stein was like am like literally he was. They were in catering. He had his hand on the top of like you know when you have the hot food laid out over the <hes> the little burners and he had his hand on the cover and he's just ask. He said mrs like man. You know cable you know he was. He was such a great guy. Stand god tough is out of his house. You always come on and then he lifts up the top of the thing and he sees what's inside and it's just a tray the full of egg whites he said steiner lifts up thing just goes bobby tony he was the best use of grey's egg whites and like yells at and then like like ants on a popsicle like all the fucking restaurants just descended on it state. Is it nitro anyway. I'm walking out of the fucking club is on. I see chad and he's like oh man. What are you doing here and i was like i was doing a set upstairs. What are you doing. He's like oh. I have a show here every once in a while and he's like man and immediately he goes into it. He's just like man. What does it say about the current products. He's like summer. Slams going on and you of all right the are here. Am i gammon. I mean part of it is not i mean it's part of it is the network because i know i can watch it anytime time but it's like if there's something i wanna watch live. I'm gonna fuck and watch it live. I wanna fuck and see it. You know right now. I mean for sure the fact that summer slam was on sunday and it was sorta like i'll i'll i'll get to it is like yeah. That's pretty well. Hasn't that okay like i wouldn't do that with <hes>. Even if it was a fucking right right like summer. Slim's supposed to be the number to show it's the number three show after the rumble yeah and it was a good show but <hes> and and raw is the war it was rosberg. Good the last couple of weeks or at least been very easy to watch for me. Yeah last night's was fucking her mondays. This was <hes> i mean man. I've been preoccupied with a g one and eat nachos man. You put a five star match in front of me and a fucking played in a notch <unk>. <hes> i'm sorry brother. I'll just be like yeah. It was horn. It was definitely a good match but man ample cheese. Yeah i mean it's <hes> i enjoyed rawlinson and listener sure yeah that's good. Honestly i mean. I don't know i can't sit. Sit here and say oh. I liked goldberg versus fucking ziglar more but i think i enjoyed it more just because it was like it. I just found it. Frankly i just found it more exciting because like it's that perfect goldberg match you know that they're finally doing right again again since they brought him back and then use a beaded curtain for his door but he didn't bang his head either so he's learned something because it because i mean talk about like you know 'cause i on the this i do like on on the new layout of the network that you go into the the pay review and then below it is all the matches you know as opposed to the timeline with the little dot and i'm like trying to write not go to the oh the finish of the kevin nash. No i want the beginning of so i clicked on that and then i was like oh well. I gotta jump back. 'cause i gotta watch. Goldberg's entrance is that literally half the match. Yeah goddamn fucking dolf coming out hot with the super kicks. I was like oh this is this is great. Yeah you know but obviously listener and rollins was much better match much better but i mean just along the lines of like a like a toro yano match approach where society of art form it was march on. I don't feel hey man. I'm not trying to defend myself these kids to in to hear me fucking celebrate professional wrestling. I love it. I just didn't have time for the fucking respite goddamn summertime. Is there anything else worth watching. You would say i mean nothing you gotta go out of your way for but it but everything was what what about richocheting was good it was. It wasn't like a off the charts or anything but it was it was good. I didn't mind the <hes> the shane in and <hes> owens match. They had enough zaba dial. Yeah guy there was no you know <hes> no harpoon guns or <hes> you know l. m. sixties or anything so what what a waste we just make sure am i got a i got a delivery. Come in that. I keep fucking with me here. Hello vincent april. Look good thank you. What is it some sort of massage chair <hes> <hes> did you watch yes yes. How is the main event. All i watched was kennison you. Oh <hes> i <hes> i like the main event you know those guys have had such great matches and <hes> <hes> it was they did an hour. I think right right. That's what i heard 'cause i i was i was getting ready to watch it and then i was like wait a second. No it was <hes>. I didn't have an hour to fucking commit to. I thought it was it was fun. <hes> psychology wise not the best they've done. It was kind of a lot more <hes> <hes> craziness well inherently inherently. That's the problem with a gimmick match for no reason yeah well. I mean there was there the psychology the weapons came in at the end yeah but but <hes> yeah i liked <hes> i liked the three way at the top <hes> with roddy and velveteen and done <hes> uh-huh yeah i mean it was another like you can't like the takeovers are takeover sega over brother. Yeah you can is an ego fantastic. Yep yep very good. Got us got to support those two <hes>. I love candice getting into fucking be canvas getting to shine yeah but not a hell of a fucking show e._e._o. Is just herbie and a he'll is like it's like what's what's wrong why why she turns he'll and suddenly she develops all these facial tics or something and she can't troll the evil evil inside of her but it works for some reason she's just got like all that hair flopping around and shit yeah. I dug that match sought <hes> <hes>. I don't know we went to a lot of live professional wrestling. I don't know why why don't they always gotta run candice out at the end of gargano match. Can't they married but <hes> i guess i guess that's it's fine as i don't. That's nitpicking <hes> that's all right. We <hes> so candice vince what are you doing here. It's an n._f._c. Show standout candace people want it speaking of <hes> <hes> the jesse w show which we went to game we went to the j game-changer wrestling hot. I don't know what's going on eddie to humidifier and hear what's going on. I'm congested all of a sudden. Maybe it's it's the wrestling god's it's mick foley. I made fun of dave meltzer allergic to me. I'm allergic to your bullshit all the cat hair. I'm traveling on yeah. Put jimmy lloyd dude. I did not put on a fucking clinic him in jungle boy. I had a hell of an opener now. I'm not gonna say i've seen a lot of jimmy lloyd matches. I've seen a few yes. I did not expect him and jungle boy. Fucking do a straight up wrestling match and it was good that was a hot hot open that was probably <hes> i wouldn't even probably right very very close second favourite match on the show okay your favorite being masao tanaka and ponied up definitely yeah right i i mean that would have been far and away my favourite up until the 'cause then they do the fucking the chair over the head and it's like all right. It's tanaka. He's been hitting the head ed fucking. He just seems to like it. He you know it. It's like a cup of coffee. Leaning backstage flew all the way here and you're not gonna let me get hit with with a chair. He's like nobody's gonna hit. He's just like it's like the dark. Your match hasn't started yet. He's nobody's gonna hit me in the head with anything mike awesome rolling in his grave companies when he hit me in the head because it didn't need it. I mean i it's it's maybe it's kind of like well. I'm in idaho. I wanna eat. A potato. Tanakh is here yeah. I guess i gotta fucking hit hit him over the head unprotected as hard as i can but <hes> and it is it's an it's an odd thing to be like well. It's g c. W of course somebody's going to ah by the main event literal because i've i'm sitting there like a dummy. I'm like looking around the room. I'm like man bandanna around your neck. As a new trend i didn't realize the thing is hot and then by the they've fucking start the main event fucking jimmy jimmy <hes> havoc and god damn <hes> gauge yeah and they start bringing out the light tubes jobs and everybody starts putting the fucking bandannas over their fucking mouths and noses in shit and i'm like i'll fuck. That's right well. I guess we can just say right now. We're going to be selling bandannas that these shows there. You go and we're gonna. I was wearing a proper <hes> dry walling mass. That's right scott moran brought some drywall. I won't mess and me and carlos had mcdonald's napkins over our faces and carlos through it because he was like you know what support engaged if he can breathe it in so could i man he stood up. I think he had a gate shirt on <hes> remember. No what was he wearing. It wasn't nick h. He was definitely like during the introductions he his honesty chair and engage looked over at important enemies like thank you man. Thank you so much. I'm gonna hug you later <hes> ukrainian cultural center they know no. I don't know but that was it. That was a good room. That was a really good route was hot but it was a good room. Yeah big crowd. They were hot. I'd only been in there before once for hardcore show but i didn't then you came back for a hardcore show right basically but yet tanaka up until that way what what's the name of the guy he wrestled muscled again devin yeah fucking fantastic he'll right runs his mouth facial expressions or on point yeah they eh fucking terrific wrestling match you know he likes. He likes to go for the snot rocket. I notice yeah rocket amazon odi but i mean it was like clear baby face as clear he'll even in a you know a jaded smart hardcore room. It was wonderful. <hes> what was the second match. Oh yeah the <hes> the inner gender match right <hes> that was thirty dirty dickinson yeah versus <hes> stat lander yeah yea she's great yup. I think i <hes> i wasn't aware of her. Before friday you know and then we got to see her twice yeah. She also worked suburban fight pro wrestling shell here. We go escape from l._a. Not a good movie. Did you ever see escape from l._a. I didn't don't okay don't phenomenon. Maybe let's see how i feel. I'm pretty good you know. I've got free time now. I know you got all this time to fucking. Do whatever you want. I need results this is this is the event bright unlike not trying to get tickets left though it's not gonna help you bent bright ain't gonna help me. I need to go to what's that website that has so so so collins censored here with him here we go now. This is just the announcement of what the fuck. I just want results. I just won't results man man. Just gimme the result just so i can read off who was there because i 'cause by the break i went and got some eat and then i came back and i was like well. Maybe i'll miss one match or half a match of time. It came back and i was like god. Damn there still introducing these fuckers yeah because about how because i came by the time i because then i saw madison and tuna <hes> outside i'm talking to them and then by the time i came in they the match had started and then i sat down about halfway through the match all of a sudden like because there was like five six guys are jumping around doing crazy shit about halfway through the match of ascendancy bateman pop up and i'm like i started laughing. I was like fucking. Bateman has been this thing the whole time. Whether foxy ban yeah afterward i was i was talking to him <hes> he he had been catching people god bless. 'em god bless him. Oh this is hilarious. Okay ah wrestling dash news dot net has g c._w. Results george analysis gave from l. A. give me that website one more time wrestling dash like the the line yeah. Is that a dash hyphen. I think hyphen now not a high hyphen a lohan owner yeah. You're right hyphen super hyphen delfin. Do you remember when we used to say. Slash back slash and people would get at slash back slash. Yes my slash this is this is the thing that cracks me up and has the results on august ninth. Hey mr who won the main event at g._w. Escape from l. a. who let me tell you something. Dude food joy dude hey. I'm the one that said to him. You need to go out there and just start jumping off his shit dude. You should drink white. Claw bucket white clawed dude. I'm sitting around on the beach man. I got fucking seltzer star port malt liquor into attorney joe johns. I dude run with this. It has the results of gq w. versus suburban fight. It lists it as august tenth since it did technically start at one in the morning fair enough <hes> suburban fight. You're just saying the same website has results for two shows that happen on the same night but they clearly they are by the book yeah. It's like when melts it gets upset with with brian when he's likely i the match went eight minutes. Seven minutes fifty six seconds brian five match jungle boy defeated jimmy lloyd chris dickinson defeated chris stat lander manse warner warner defeated kuntoro guitar kit kit guitar. Oh i thought it was kuntoro taro okay oh yea manse warner he has. He's a he's got that fucking dirty american flag around his neck. Oh oh yeah he was on the suburban fight to yes yeah yeah yeah. He's a he's a cowboy of sorts. I'm a cowboy. Oh boy yeah he's got. He's got cowboy boots that are working boots yeah. That was a fun match guitar. Oh can't go wrong entertaining guy guy alex zane and blake christian. That's the one where i stepped out yeah and then i came back and <hes> unease was like yelling and shown me his phone and he had videoed the whoever jumped off the fucking right right. We put that we put that on the instagram. I mean here's the thing with that. Match is it's like clearly. Both of those guys are great athletes and can do a lot of stuff but i think that was what took away from the match because it was like you don't have to do everything at once right it was it felt like it was too much to much like you wanna talk about ten pounds of steak and a five pound bag it was just everything was happening at once state bag fucking like vince mention. One of the guys climbed climbed up on the roof of the fucking building basically is on the fucking ceiling and jumps down on top of the other guy and it was just the spot in the middle of the match. It was literally like there was still half of a match to go but didn't they chant g c. W no they chant juicy dubbed because this new generation fucking wrestling fan o holiest fucking hype from w._w._e. Than they used to say e c dub uh that is the the biggest crock of shit in wrestling. Don't you push my buttons vince man you gotta say w there's plenty watch beyond that watch terry funk at the end of barely legal. He's in there with the crowds and he's gone ec. W c z. W. invinci- takes too long. It's so it's <hes> and kevin dunn started pumping in the dob. You think there's a fucking. There's a space. There's just dead air where like g. c. Dub g c w g c w show me the letter in the alphabet that says duh mcmahon. This is a conspiracy theory. Let me tell you some dude chanting. W takes way too long brother. You gotta say dub band dub step. I also just admitted that music dude. They gotta bring back <hes> they gotta bring back. Jesse ventura's conspiracy theory do do do do do this. Let me hey it was going on jim johnston. I'm about to steal your job. Dude listen to what i just wrote due to to to to to to to to to. Let me tell you subdued aw home. No it's called stranger things man. It's the upside down. I wrote the whole script. Let me tell you something. Everybody says the best wrestlemainia was eleven wrestlemainia eleven. I could not disagree more dude so named this character eleven. She's the best character in in in my in my pilot stranger things uh-huh hal of the matches. Was it not a night in a morning. Oh my god it was it was fucking great. I wish i could've seen more fucking babin. Yeah that that again that master. That's one of my complaints. It's generally speaking well. Well said i here's the thing because with that match who else was in that match like literally how many guys were in that match i mean he he got. He got some shit in but i think you you just you came in at a time when he was <hes> on the floor a six way scramble. Maya hayes was always pitching scramble. We do scramble. Oh ham green pepper. Get some scrap awesome. Scramble shane mercer egotists toco fantastico. That's an incredible name for a lucia. You kidding me egotistic. Oh fantastico. It's almost as good as locale. Oh my god lucas riley matt vanda griff nate webb tyler abatement sato tanaka tony depp in dustin thomas joey annella nick gage jimmy kabq. I'm not have it guy. I just can't get into it. What maybe you should you know. Grow your hair out on top. Shaves shave the side. What do you speak start rocking the jimmy havoc. I'll get something taped on anybody out there. If everybody out there wants to photoshop vince april's had with jimmy having hair. He's in full supportive gestures so he can see what he's mississippi. You you just so you can see all out on please. I'm at peace man. You know man. I started listen to <hes> cornet but he like the latest experience where i'm like. I just want to hear some harley stories jumping around and i'm like he is he not gonna fucking talk about. Maybe i've missed it and he listened to the jair one. No i didn't get to that episode. You know what the problem is. I started listening to the j._r. One and i was like for whatever reason i don't have a problem with conrad but i was just like i can't listen conrad's voice right now. <hes> see in chicago. I like conrad. It was just it wasn't the time i was was at the time so i i switched over to the <hes> to the six. Oh five have super podcasts yeah hawaiian brian podcasting line. I he's just got a little he had. I needed a little little more energy conrad's vary. <hes> subdued yeah. The line i always think of is because when i was like really burning through <hes> bruce richard chose <hes> conrad it's not oria is <hes>. I think they were talking about. China not going on hall of fame and of course pritchard is always the party line and <hes> he's like you know it's just the what whatever the bullshit reason reason was he gave it was just like you know i it just the oh she she did. Pornography a conrad. It's got nothing to do with triple h and stephanie and breaking up with china and bob. I you just can't have someone like that. In the hall of fame and i remember conrad saying allegedly say jimmy snuka killed the girl allegedly and but he didn't put in the alleged lease so that it was just killed a girl and so then i'm like but i knew who he was talking about here <hes> as you as you go through the rolodex of hall of famers right as i got yeah my all right well what well scott hall killed a guy outside of a strip club but he talked about that and was not in alabama. Why not just ban wise in a ah observe. A hall of ben wasn't a much more prestigious hall of fame he owned but he killed his whole family. That's that's. That's a five star murder right there. Hey hawks ter- let me tell you dude was me wasn't me do. I won't even they're not. I wasn't even working in atlanta at the time to near. Nothing didn't see nothing nothing. I didn't see shit. I was on the beach man. I was on the beach ready. Two hours late asked brutus. I was fucking rhythm all damn day. Flogging i was in the middle of giving bruins beefcake a windy and i and i was like you know what i better. Call bob holly remind him that he needs to go to the outback steakhouse with fuck doc. Id chris benoit's because otherwise sh- it's going to be probably just get lunch with the mother fuck. I could see it in his eyes dude. I was like i i met chris ben while i was like fucking. Keep keep your hands off her. That's gonna get me going to get heat for that dude. You also said like you know when he made peace with the warrior this. This is what i texted you. You know me nick. We just found a golf cart or cheese in that thing nick again. Dad book drive me around dude. I love better than driving around with my son with my son behind the wheel. Another bad ever happens when that goes down so we're just driving around. We stole golf cart which is driving around. I see fuck warrior. I didn't even know he must have mentioned four times these. I didn't even know there are cameras. There dude brother no idea their cameras their brother and so. What did you say polygraph. What is it you. I am not whole cogan. Dude the mr america polygraph. It is all coke. No no i am not kogel or other absolutely not broiler any life you believe it georgia's dancing ah so the fuck in so short jump out of the golf cart i grab word my hey man whatever i did. I'm sorry whatever i did. I'm sorry i got a problem with you and i text vince. I'm like whatever i did. I'm sorry is not an apology. That is unacceptable any that that ain't what we're whatever variety oh if if that hurt your feelings. I'm sorry that's my other favorite while if you were offended than i am sorry like oh. It's on you yeah. You've got you know <hes> god. Whatever a how many times at hull could say that to linda whatever it did. I'm sorry he's a shouted live from the next room. Knobs turned us down. I don't think she can hear me ma'am back those up man when they were talking. What's that shit that they we're talking about that. He said almost killed them in mexico. Oh yeah it's weird. 'cause i never heard of that. I'd never heard of that and then steve knew all about it. Yeah yeah i didn't. I can't remember what it was called like d. M. d. m. c. o. or something or something they use crush it up with aspirin steve's like because it makes it go in your bloodstream same quicker something why google it. It was like something that like you rub it on your skin gets into. It's almost like acid like it goes right into your sitting yeah. Let me tell you dudes. I play bass acid in my face to fucking dosed steve. My bass guitar turned into andre raisman and i was wrestling him when i used to say my arms were pythons that was shoot brother fucking fucking snakes god damn when he's talking when he started going down the trail about talking about like you you know i measured my arms and i showed him to billy. Graham took a picture of him. I'm like is he. It almost sounds like he's getting close to took a picture on my phone. Senate to billy graham ram in nineteen seventy seven do went down to the photo map picked up appearance. I know doubles right because you're taking a picture in. Let's even say it was nineteen. Eighty like just making a nice round number you taking a picture now you taking three days for nineteen ninety. Yeah how 'bout fucking even two thousand maybe you could get it developed in an hour in two thousand and it looked like shit fuck walkman. He's like our took a picture of it bill graham get over here. He checks me. Ask ah but yeah i did. I did pop when hogan was like he's like 'cause then they were talking about like taking painkillers and stuff and he's like no. I never did that to later man. You know i was just like i was on the beach tanning. I was taking my gimmick. No talking about the fucking royds smoking pot dig gimmick man all roy up terry do a monetary jeon man g one says is the grace g one history is every year the graves g. one in history they seem to they seem to top themselves fucking crazy that fact the the the finals was fucking. Oh yeah it was it was. It was like a perfect match. It's it's funny man <hes> again clear baby face clear he'll i i was. I was a little let down when i was like oh. That's the final because it just wasn't you know just wanted oh so you needed naito in a bushy to go out there and murder themselves so i don't bloodthirsty fuck. I don't know what what i wanted. I was just like i'm not sure but then of course they fucking toward up and i think part of it is like i i think koto bucci is incredible yeah but i don't. I don't super connect with him. I'm i'm not like you know because you hate asian people now. Hold on there's plenty of reason to not think that plenty of reason i clearly joking everybod- <hes> <hes> <hes> but damn dude and fucking you know as as we had discussed <hes> throughout like jay white. He's the he's not piss laker but he's definitely got his tongue out. What a what a fucking he'll yeah what <hes> just a grease balls smarmy smarmy yup fucking all the fucking ballclub guys come out there read chiusano said no <hes> red shoe said no red schulman said no fucking gaito sneaks back out and gedo high behind the get. Some brass knocks reggie wound serves. No ridge room says no <hes> yeah. I mean a fucking hell atias final final to a even more <hes> hellacious tournament. Let me get my go to your notes. Let me get my notes this by unofficial the very unofficial program the g one climax twenty nine courtesy of tom nisha. I'll turn your prayer books open. You'll miss elites to some sixty nine nine one. We were there bro. That's right. We were there. How long does at six months ago july six. That's crazy dude and you know next week. We're going to be at the fucking j cup final. It's fucking crazy dude and this was a month and a week ago five weeks. Jay white is going to be an action at the jakup jay white man what fucking what a little ball bag. That guy is <hes>. I'll just run down quickly my recommendations. If you're curious about dipping into g one if you didn't watch it i know a lot of people title always give a shout outs <hes> there we got them into new japan or at least interested enough to to to search out some stuff night one will spray lance archer sonata versus zack sabre junior code bucci all right so this is basically the entire fucking can show a bucci versus kenta tallahassee versus okada man a lot of fucking matches ashes to recommend night to say itchy and cobb night three osprey sonata okada zack sabre junior junior tallahassee kenta <hes> we talked about kanter for a second what a fucking angle wow right yeah especially really when there was no even sniff now that <hes> <hes> <hes> shibata shibata could fuck and you know i i looked at him thought he'd been turned goofy like i didn't think he could fucking do anything so well what he had he was worse is often like daniel bryan right. He had like i mean yeah. Rain was like bleeding right bad news very bad news but i mean he hasn't looked the same since that all but <hes> and just one night after the rated r superstar return did a spear another guy who was supposed to be doing anything physical again edge edge edge edge so burst star any fucking gave elias speier anyway but that was a fucking crazy angle yeah man fuck and it's like it's. It's so funny like if we just recap it it it sounds it would sound flap got to watch it. Yeah you gotta watch it and you know i. I think we can just be done with good guy stuff. Tammy tongue is bag. Take it with him just trying to keep it real. Oh one night four cobb versus moxley night five nine five had to you absolutely tremendous matches every everything else i i mentioned watch it. <hes> these two definitely watch coach tallahassee and zack sabre junior <hes> coda bucci and will osprey what what's the date on that that is thursday july eighteenth eighteenth from kurkin hall makes it easier to find oh there you go night six july nineteenth again definitely watch tower yano versus jay white <hes> and tomohiro ishii versus jon moxley both fuck. I mean especially if watch it again dino like crazy. Dean ambrose is dead and jon moxley. He is dancing on his grave rene. Get my dancing shoes. Go dance on dean ambrose his grave again renee. Where's my barb wire. It's an i go to japan for a month and you barnard storage. So you moved on my staff into a tool shed barb wire coz in the kitchen nights seven july twentieth zack sabre junior versus bad luck fale believe it or not bad luck following matches on a why you should watch this list folly makes the list tana high. She versus lance art lance archer lance archer. We talk about him for a second breakout star star the fucking g one fucking man. Did you ever think the day would come. We like oh. I gotta watch this lance. Archer match faulk man probably not fuck but here we are shame on me. You underestimated him. Didn't you big time coda bucci versus sonata zanatta and then <hes>. I gotta think this was the best match in the tournament. Go out of your way okada versus spray. It was pretty good now planets. Are you still upset about we'll ask spray beaten tunnel hockey no but did you mention evil versus donna ashi because that's a fucking no i didn't get to that one right. Oh you're getting hot. I'm hot. Oh boy on from what about uh spray fucking during the air attack got here now we we got. It's like scanners minutes head back together at exploded again night eight july twenty fourth issue versus naito ninety nine so i twenty seventh lance archer quota obuchi tallahassee sonata that was a hell of a match sonata autumn in asks that ass okada versus kenta mike ten definitely watch from july twenty eighth definitely watch juice robinson versus tomohiro ishii <hes> fucking juice man he'll be in long beach shingo versus jay white knight overseas moxley night eleven july thirtieth lance archer versus okada data tana heist. She versus evil now now. We're talking about matches. You need to see <hes>. I would say definitely watch osprey versus ex-labour junior definitely oh man i loved that match lack chocolate and peanut button peanut butter and jelly peanut butter uh-huh night twelve august first juice juice versus naito goto overs as easy moxley versus yano moxley versus jato. I can take those mother fuckers up man unbelievable. What about yanno a. I'm going to jump way ahead but yeah what was was it yano in was it was it yano and taichi where they got all wrapped up in the fucking apron. This is the the ring skirt trying to find it. May i h e g. You loved him in this tournament even even tight. You had a good tournament. I mean you know listen man. It's fucking tough you want to start mentioned the shingle a little bit more place. Ooh shingo got some shingle on here ching. I didn't recommend shingo jeff cobb takagi talking about you'd be in dragon gate the dragon. He's gonna heavyweight by the way that's right. Did you get my text. It feels like you ignore. It feels like he has transfers. Rex arms josh takagi. Hey listen to me and i i think he's just got his upper body in his header huge and then he just got like regular guy oregon. Are you not aware maybe that's what it is that why they called the dragon accents night thirteen august third asperger's evil tana ohashi versus code bushy she definitely watch that and definitely watch okada versus sonata fourteen august fourth night overs shingo. Oh <hes> night fifteen august seventh sabor junior versus bucci oscar versus kenta okada versus evil will. He's another one yeah. It's like these guys they sort of get lost in the shuffle but at the right the right time they're just fucking killing it well. That's what's amazing about. This term is because you get to see everyone. Will that's in it. You know we know the king of the rain's coming back <hes> <hes> say like tournaments alger the king of the ring but only over one night to the finals at some fucking pay per view. Nobody cares about aw fucking booking genius but i mean it's like you get match ups you but but but even with say like minoru suzuki not being in the g one a glaring omission still plays into into the final night of the show yeah you know and then he beats the shit out of <hes> out of okada he beats okada okada in the tag pinza known stories man man. It's like they're telling fucking stories bro now. You've gotten atn over that was that was the that was the thing i i was just trying to get to about. <hes> you know <hes> when we're at g._w. During the <hes> the christians a-match because it was just it was like i was like there's no there's no story. It was just moves yeah you you know there. There wasn't a reason for everything to to occur the way that it did. Which i think was a shame because they again. I'll say yeah you you you fucking killing yourselves to live. That's all psychology has psychology going out the window vince i think not are you still hot about. Jason's is not being in the tournament man. What a what a garbage back. I mean he's just he's times he. He would be on commentary. I'm just like that. Just ain't happening man. I don't know he's got pictures of somebody. <hes> night sixteen august eighth jay white versus juice go out of your way and watch e. She versus shingo. Go <hes> go out of your way bro. I can shingo though manha the slobber was knocking that night and then <hes> the final weekend and night seventeen august tenth definite this this was maybe my favorite show definitely watch kent into insects hebrew junior <hes> he'll versus lance archer definitely watch osprey and tonge yemen definitely watch okada versus coda obuchi and then the b block <hes> finals last august eleventh nineteen mean even issues taichi was fucking hot well. She might be the right he might be. The fucking the cream in your coffee coffee did he has already david star. It might be she is she's tomohiro. Ishii might be my favorite restless favorite wrestler. That's that's right. Goto versus shingo jews versus mocks naito versus jay white. I would watch all those and then the finals mid camman. Did e bushy bushy. I don i try to album couldn't get it done. It's it's it's just incredible because it's like he legit hurt hurt his ankle on the first night and it could not have been a better story down the entire tournament and he's already out. You're talking about. Maybe fighting for the heavyweight a and the intercontinental title at the dome. There are two domes this year you understand. You ain't forgot about that. Have you met i know how are we not going. Well well. You know it's just like the old sick of it all song injustice system somewhere. We got sort that out. We gotta get to japan man. Yeah we got to dave meltzer tapes digitized. We gotta get to japan yeah. We're still sorting it out sorta. We we got some options on the table and <hes> they're all expensive. Yeah sorta sort at you. I mean i think we got to re up. I don't know exactly what update for the old kumble. It's next week and you're on top of the head matt. What's your head this means. I have the brains yeah do ran listener. Oh yeah ah now you don't often you were up all night working on. I was up all night. Burn the midnight oil. I woke up <unk>. I i got to sleep in this morning. I got up at seven forty. Ooh bro. Let me tell you can like silk sheets sleep past past seven thirty. Oh my god and good god almighty. Even ten ticks good golly miss molly. I will tell you this much dude. I wish you would dude food. <hes> the dog's trying to get a hold on vamp your coffee. He might take a spot and monkey addiction. Yeah man monday night wrong not a bad wrestling show these days mattie you gotta check it out monday night raw monday night raw sounds promising. I i have thoroughly enjoyed the the cedric drew the matches man the they. They had a what may have been a blow off on monday. I don't know but there's something about that combo. That's <hes> doing it for army but i just feel like you're seeing more faces. They're being <hes>. Maybe there's a little more opportunity for people actually get over. I don't know it's like i'm not trying to say that. The city has changed but it feels like so you're buying into this sunol heyman arab bullshit well. I mean whether it's him or it's somebody else. It's like it's it's it feels more tolerable interesting <hes> when so what what's what's going on with like the roman reigns daniel bryan home and ran away was daniel bryan that now hold on mattie. You don't get ahead of yourself here. Yeah garrick rohan <hes> he finally after he he had to <hes> you know he tried to accuse buddy murphy or try to get buddy murphy to tell him and i saw that they had a match <hes> and then a that but now we're on smackdown but but <hes> ronin daniel bryan and <hes> claim it wasn't them but they'll they're going to let them know who it was next week. They'll have a <hes>. They'll have a culprit. So who do you suppose it was while hope daniel bryan but <hes>. I don't know who they're going to try to point fingers at a._m. Daniel bryan he may try to blame <hes> downtown bruno port bruno. You know maybe <hes> here's what i wanted to tell you before. The talks started wining. Maybe i'll maybe a prince albert's coming back. I dunno or answer. He'll lord ten big. We we need a big big monster heel for john cena this year summer slam. What are your that was mattie the floor is yours like this is your house. My one of my greatest pet peeves and i noticed this in the the g. One of my biggest pet peeve when pet peeve word pet peeves really i mean i'm not blaming you but there's something anyway but it doesn't i mean i don't know what that word is supposed. I mean i know what it means but like. Why does it peeve you off. I don't know this is my pet peeve. This is my pet peeve. Has there's some there has to be some irritating like comedian out there somewhere who named like a cat peeve like oh. This is my pet peden well. You were saying <hes> when guys are they got knocked out or knocked down y. When a wrestler is down selling yeah and then they like they pull hair off their face or like or they adjust their pads. Its or their trunk exactly. I'm like no you're. You're in pain. You're you're near unconscious yeah. You're you're goofy right now. You can't consider consider your shift together yeah. It's it's it's just it. It takes me out of it as a professional professional wrestling van yeah because it's like once you start coming to then you can do that as your like right like when i passed out billy davis apartment soon as i woke up is my shirt up over the fuck. What's when that happened. That was that was like in. Oh eight or or something i i had gone up to do <hes> <hes> bumper shoot we went to billy's apartment and i had never smoked a vaporizer before and they're like you start and so i'm going. I don't think this is doing anything. I don't do anything and then i'm sitting there and i begin to have the very first panic attack of my life and i didn't i know what was happening and then my brain was like we're out and so then i wake up and get them up. Get them up and i was like why my shirt up if i can drag my ass out of that apartment <music> all my god was looking at me. Fuck in all kinds of folks were there man. Many police shared over hand. I'm wrong with him. Get him up. Get him outta here anyway. Yeah o._j.'s was looking at. I read it. Look at me. I that's amazing brain said no then spring says there's no that sounds maybe familiar. I'm sure you must heard stories. Some of them definitely heard that story some point. It's just you know and then it would happen a couple of website one time on the subway in new york right like after a house show at the garden. Yeah lizard tried to stop at the beauty bar. Beater bars not open it the one hitter go down in the train. Oh no oh no. That's right people offer me. They're strangers water. You want someone who's dirty water. Fuck right yeah yeah. I forgot about so what happened. The things that i've forgotten about you can just about fit into a truck. <hes> then flip fifteen foot would have done well. Here's the thing here's what dawned on me is is when a guy is getting pinned particularly in in the dub genetics promotion the dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub dub w. w. e. Could you imagine anybody chanting dub dub dub dub dub e the whole thing just falls apart now dabi dabi dummy tubby. There's room for the w. Anyway find the w when they're being pinned. The rock was the worst is wide open looking at the referee. Oh yeah count along and then they'd kick out yeah. You see that shit all the time. Here's what dawned on me that bothers others be less and i can almost rationalize that because of the idea that some sort of offensive maneuver has just been performed formed on them. What am i over so they're goofy. The lights are on but nobody's home. I can buy them like like lighting around like we've just been talking about looking. Thank somebody dead in the eye and being like oh they're gone. They're gone. I could buy that them like looking at the referee like wait. What the fuck oh fuck. I got a kick out yeah that i can totally justify my movie collection the friday's wherever but it's it's it's it's not like but like doing something to make me a little more comfortable like pulling hair out of my mouth whatever or just just even just brushing hair are off my face. When i'm dead yeah it when you're in the cell right at least when you start coming to again and you're getting backup beulah go far. Let me get my shit together your shirt down yeah. Pull your shirt. Police shirt them way. Pull it up real quick. I wanna see bali bali. I am now getting alerts. Whenever the rolling stones tweet oh because uh-huh all i'm banking on is that they announce a secret show in l._a. That doesn't cost a million dollars at like if you i. I want to direct message them gets a ticket or something shit like that because there's no way we can get in that rose bowl for less than eight eight. Hundred dollars only gotten more expensive. I've you know i kept is on it. Course what breaks my heart is. I had the chance to see them in like ninety eight or ninety nine and i was like yeah they're all old yeah and here. I am twenty years later. Go and and fuck like who i really gotta get it in mick and keefe bass player. They won't mention. I mean right the ba- y- yeah we don't talk about the bass player on the buying. He's not on the band. He's just phone with us for the last twenty five years. We played a tape recorder. We could they do the they do. The carry bit like after last bass player but we just recorded all the tracks and now he just played at the track how bill wyman record all these baseline's. We just have this guy standing here so it's not awkward that can hear a bass. He's playing to nothing so it goes it goes. I mean my god. I remember which mania was it three. Maybe okay where jesse ventura on one of the main areas you know. I don't think it was manny one. I think was mania. Three jesse ventura was like i i've been to woodstock. I've been to the berlin wall. I've even been into the rolling ondo later a fighter. I'm a lover. I'm a joker. I'm smoker. I'm a midnight toker howard heard how do three buildings fall after two lane crashes but because it reminds me i was like all right. That was that time where the stones at broken up 'cause i love there's an interview with axl rose when he talks about them getting to open up for the stones and he's like he's like well. I used to talk about got it for years and people would be like you're never going to open for the stones. They broke up. He's like no no no. No you don't understand we're going to open for the stones and then they got back together. When we we open for i i'm pretty sure like the footage from paradise city that video where they're just in front of like giant stadium whatever like that had been accents like they weren't selling out giant stadium. There was definitely stones. You know he goes. I know what it's like to be in a band. Get back together. Trust me. I know how it goes but i in the interview. He's like he's like you know what i eventually told that story to keith richards and he was like well you made. It can't gimme gimme a cigarette. <hes> les thatcher sure i was just thinking about less than what the gimme a cigarette line. It makes me think of <hes> when les thatcher was on <hes> m._t._v. m._t._v. yeah true life. I'm through life. I'm a pro wrestler and he went looking that dummy the fucking the meathead who's i yeah yeah living in a fucking hotel room. My mom paid for this roy. Today is and he's like the kid missed like you fucking get drained by les thatcher and he just no shows so he went looking for him and he went into the kids room and he's like and i don't have to tell you what i found me to tell you what i found and he holds out a dime bag and the guy just goes. That's we'd jim move. That's i think that's on youtube someone you do you think you can find it on youtube. <hes> update we update weekend. Update updates unsolved mysteries update. I've been d- diving more into. I've been diamond some dumpsters. I've been diving into some harley eagles man. They're perfectly fine a lot of times. You get a bag of them just a day later. They're like they're no good. I'm like fuck you. These are great. They're better a day later same with pizza. Just get out of the dumpster juice. You know what they put them. They don't just throw naked. He could bagels into a dumpster. They put them in a bag. Avoid the eclairs. The cream can curdle but harley race. I started watching the documentary on high spots <hes>. I didn't realize this. He started him carnivals. Oh really like like in like nineteen fifty eight eight fifty nine <hes> fucking because he because he goes to the because he was a teenager he got kicked out fucking school because he knocked out the principal principal cheese and then he goes and he starts working on this abyss goes farm and so like stance laziest or whatever however however you say that name <hes> him and his brother start training him <hes> probably legit like actually how to fuck and submission should fight probably just stretching that poor kid out on the fucking farm and then he and then he gets involved in the in the carnival circuit so like you know like the guy like beat the like harley would be wearing overalls with a fucking you know sp- straughn his mouth like standing in the trialogue i could beat him. You know go up there and like all that sh- like fucking madness <hes> madness man the fucking carnival circuit dude. That's how long long fucking harley was added that blows mama. Yeah i mean by the time yeah even even when he's doing the shit with the flair it's like he's kind of already an old man in months. Yeah i mean that fucking jay weiss twenty they six by the way is he really yeah. <hes> i mean what's crazy is is when they when trish was doing her thing on summer slam. I didn't watch it but i knew that it was there. Oh <hes> it didn't require any stratus faction. I guess then i requested with required very little strategy faction. Hopefully you don't run into corbett any time too soon. Oh yeah he texted me. He said he's there's he got answers. Maybe answered on his show o. k. I made the video with all the answers happy summer slam happy birthday. Did he think he was texting you. I don't know i. I haven't seen this video yet. He sent you the video. No no no no no no. We're trying to figure it out casey. We just want john answers. Quit fucking around with us man. Here's what blew my mind won't be blown. Anybody's mind now is i didn't unrealized. Fucking trish is only forty two. Oh so that means when she was in the attitude era. She was like nine hundred ninety eight. Even let's say let's say. She showed up in one thousand nine hundred nine yeah. She was twenty three wow. That's crazy easy yeah. Youth man is wasted on the young. All you wasted on the wrong people. I didn't know this story and i heard several different versions of it and then on you. Do you need answered up. Oh maybe just in case aloe. It is papa. Call you back <hes> some delivery but i i should we cut that out. Not today's not doesn't matter her. We'll leave that in them kids. This is the real deal. See what a good friend. I am da vinci's. I came in. You need to answer that appreciate it. Then on the the six zero five super podcast he played a clip of when cornet and brian were going through old newspaper articles about wrestlers because this made the news harley is in a bar restaurant. Whatever barn grow let's obviously alcohol was a factor and and he's sitting at his table and then there's three guys <hes> like harassing a young woman like getting physical like maybe maybe even like slapping her around harley goes over and tells them fucking leave her alone. You know comes to the to the to the young ladies rescue. Yeah goes back and sits down waitress comes over to harling says those guys haven't knife and so hardly goes back to you hardly goes back <hes> knocks out two of them at once like just fucking destroys two of them the third one stabs harley and the shoulder blade and it makes the papers they arrests and stuff you know all that yet so now and harleys a he'll right harleys a fucking heal and he's out of action for however many weeks when he finally comes back. This is i think when he was tagging with with heading the place cheers them like crazy. He's a fucking hero. Jerem saved this girl's. Life gets a fucking. You know yeah stabbed over it. Apparently he went in the ring and he just started beat. Whoever they were wrestling he just starts beating the fuck out of the guy just beating the shit out of them to the point. Where are he fucking. People start booing again and he's like explaining somebody ladies like i had to do something my eight back the guy i just love the idea that he's a fucking hero in the paper and he's like oh fuck dot god damn heads <hes> these are from the two from the six zero five okay. This is a great show. Tom hankins kim's said that harley's eat a bucket of chicken before as man. Oh that's the way it bogged move is. He's the whole bucket of chicken damn. He said he's like he's like i never saw. He's like i'd never saw anybody do that. Shit he's the whole bucket of fried chicken then go out and work. He goes to the only other wrestler ever saw who would eat at all before he wrestled was fujinami. Wow just filling up on chicken just a bucket of fried chicken well. It's one of my favorite stories when dynamite kid is talking about like at mania three like he's standing back there. He's just like drinking a cup of coffee smoking a cigarette and all of a sudden. He hears you know their theme music so he just throw the cigarettes on the coffees. Davis go <hes>. This was the best story sorry. This is hank hankins said that <hes> a fan. He said it was his bell too so so like hankins said that it was a <hes> a fan hit harley with the ring bell okay and he goes and he goes. I made this this was an old railroad bell bell right that is mounted on a big piece of pine woods so this weighed like twenty pounds sure said a fan grabs it and hit harley early over the head with it as hard as he could and he said harley turned around and punch the like broke the guy's fucking jaws punched him so hard that the guy was knocked walked out for two days in the hospital unreal and he said again it made the fucking papers and he goes he goes the that weekend. Uh it we we sold out cedar rapids. He goes. We never sold out cedar rapids but everybody showed up because they wanted to see this mad man. Who fucking broke the guy's jaw knocked him out for wow fucking harley dude and that's like the tip of the iceberg of that guy. It's like everybody's doing shows telling stories about that guy. Hi and there's no shortage i mean he he must have fucking almost got murdered every day. Apparently he had a scar on his back from that stabbing that you could see yeah like i gotta. I gotta watch some like eighties harley to fucking get into that shit. Gotta find it. Did i got a lot of harley harley to watch man. I got i got harley collection that i got from russell tapes back in the day the mid atlantic tapes when thing he has harley on it yup <hes> dip into the archive dip dip dip into the archive. God forbid you. Try to look for a fucking harley race collection on the network. <hes> that's the easiest fucking fix but no oh god no no hidden gems. No collections just fucking push summer slam. Make it easy for them to watch some classic footage. Fuck him. Fuck him in the year. Fuck him in the other ear moris wigs. I don't come off. Oh brother. Did you hear the story about when vince went after harley while so i've heard different versions that were vince did try to attack him. I've also just heard it where we're there in the bathroom and <hes> harleys like basically going like fucking guy in the mirror. I gotta look at him right seeing the fucking mirror like i'm not gonna fuck these so what is it. The story goes vince tried to get harley to know show stockade. Yes he offered him like a quarter of a million dollars to just bring the belt don't show up and they'll fucking do their thing he he had him come up to connecticut <hes> to to offer him this thing and it was in a bathroom in i recall that they were like convinces office office but then they they both when they were leaving went went into the men's room or something. You're going to go use the bathroom me to. Maybe got a big ticket you everything about that. I have heard the version in where vince like tried to well. That's what les thatcher said that that's what harley told him. He's i in harley wasn't the type of guy that he needed to make up stories right so so he said i don't think he knocked out vince but he's had vince went after him and he just fucking muslim down down on the ground fucking you sir harley had that fucking voice to just like it almost sounds like it's a put on yeah yeah yeah very very soft but i mean clearly smoked two packs a fucking day for fucking fifty years on s._a._t.'s plenty of beer skis on the road more than a i mean he he was. What seventy six sounds right. Seventy five seventy six probably started smoking when he was the nine. No no i mean he was smoking fucking cigarette when i met him if if if if he felt like he probably could have smoked a cigarette in titan towers in the cafeteria they gonna tell me what are they going to say no off but yeah but can fucking harley man man fucking harley man. Who's your favorite wrestler jay white the switch which play mostly wow <hes> the dark horse no shit man. I you know i really liked that matching obviously bush's incredible but i <hes> i just <hes> jay whitest. He's he's doing some. He'll work get behind. I'm excited. He's going to be a long beach. You know what i wanted to mention about the summer sleigh match though it's i it's i found it was difficult for me to get into the rollins. Listener match is at whenever listener comes out. I'm like kind of the same old same old <hes>. I'm just i'm. I'm not interested in brock listener as the champion rail. What's the match gets going on like okay. You know suplex for it. It's it's always a fun match which i don't see the value that vince is put on brock glasner right but i realized as i watched it and i'm like it's it's hard for me to get excited about rollins after his you know <hes> his his his rah rah w._w._e. Bullshit on twitter that he's he's done so because i don't have a problem with somebody you know standing up for the company but he's he did it so poorly well and continued to you know what's also kind of weird to me. I'm five rounds but like normally when they do. Those like features on a guy makes you like a more oh. They just did one with him where he got his coffee shop. In iowa you know sort of like his little road to summer slam or whatever the fuck it was yeah and i was like this just doesn't help him for me. I i didn't i didn't watch shows yeah. I mean it wasn't like i was like you know but it usually. You're like oh man now right. You know can can really get behind a guy. I'm like funding morning. <hes> who's your favorite wrestler matt code a bucci. We are in direct conflict not again not again man. We can't go through this again and my best friend. He just had a birthday. Now eight are yeah. What fucking match i love that you came out of it that shoulder wound. I know what what how did that happen to know. He must've got some rug. Burn or something. I mean burn that that happened during the tournament ornament right yeah 'cause i'm like how am i just noticing this yeah and it didn't feel like it was being addressed. Plugging how about kanter though that fucking scar from the surgery yeah i think brutal <hes> you said something is coming out of it. I love that you came out of that match being like o j white yeah. It's got to be the best matchday whites ever had sure even after because i was i was amped up for j. wide juice. I was like oh man. The rematch from san francisco man yeah 'cause that was the match that fucking put both of them over the fucking top for matiur. You know that was the match catch that fucking show yeah that was that they had fucking barnett's favorite matcher best matched. Oh boy wow yemen fuck do ji won another one in the books and other one bites the dust credible. We've got the jakup coming up man. A lot of things happened. Live show hopefully all out all out bro. Our live shows. It's percolating baby l._a. I'll say it again. Get the ticket now because i don't want should get shut out. This is this is i'm. I'm trying to do right by you one for chicago. All your editorial come to chicago. You're going to be in chicago toothpicks vanita pappy about eyeballs open because it's too late for you. Barr thank mountain while bound yep. We're can manually convince april on twitter vince dot april instagram next thursday the twenty second i will be at program skate shop and fullerton alerts in california with cross control. That's right for show with birth old city and skull cracked and pure heal. It's gonna be hot one. That's on the twenty second thursday the twenty second and fullerton oh man. I'll be there pit matt. I expect to see you in the pit. I'll i'll i'll be there. Miserable powell met mccarthy encouraging them to follow me on all forms of social media at mccarthy red head <hes> the shown a blue demon movie this afternoon one p._m. Got it got a channel twenty four. You're using the time warner cable <hes> <hes> tomorrow night's thursday august fifteenth. I will be at the ice house in pasadena at nine pm. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 106: AIW and The Slumber Party Massacre In New Jersey (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 106: AIW and The Slumber Party Massacre In New Jersey (Preview)

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Don't turn that dial or choke you out way in the world to take them all your lives hanaway sometime ago where everybody John Trouble on you when you and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name even when you're two states away this is resting chairs would like to talk about things going on the northeast while independent wrestling scene we preview shows we review shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way this is a very special episode for the preview of A._i.. Ws Wrestlemainia Wrestlemainia weekend show the slumber party massacre. which is this Thursday April fourth at the White Eagle Hall in Jersey City New Jersey? How many tickets are necessarily left but if you can't watching on there you can't be live? I should say it's it's available on T._v.. You can get either just the event or you can get the whole collective as a whole so I am your host. I am heavy set so we are brought to you by the trending topics network Midwest territory and key on Sports. Please rate review and subscribe wherever you listen it's fine pike as whether it be apple podcast Google podcast institute in Youtube spotify iheartradio Padre and wrestling cheers pod bean dot com find us on all your Social Asia media such as facebook twitter and Instagram facebook dot com slash rush insures twitter dot com slash registers instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email. If you so choose a desire wrestling cheers at g mail DOT COM and we have the merged or over at one maneuver dot net thing I I said my name was heavy set as the host Feis said that no Justin Summers whatever you want <unk> still getting used to that too much of one spiel anyway like I said this he added you said a lot of stuff. I've said that before but holy Shit could never yeah right are his babble for like eight minutes and then all of a sudden it starts by the way we have padre and Dan on this episode. We Have Ed an Ron Ron Patrick whatever I don't know I said that whatever those names dude I said. I don't like pat for reasons but I'll tell you patrick. Whatever whatever I'll probably answer to allow things it's fine so you know we have <hes> I've? I've been pulling to get you both on for a long time. It just never works out one reason or another. I've been really busy lately with just alive things. I have a bunch of different jobs and MIA do the PODCASTS. I talk all the time so you know maybe people don't want to hear my voice that much. I don't know do scared to do anything without Pat. I like that excuse yeah you Patrick the last time you were on. You hadn't been on at that point. You hadn't been on on since October when it was me you and thrift store jobber. He hasn't been on in a while either. He seems to be busy but we were talking. He S J yeah he's. He's a popular guy. He's all over the place but but now sometimes life happens. We're all adults so now so we gotta do stuff that's all right but it was so long ago we were talking about me and thrift store jobber going to a nice EP concert after it happened a couple of Gigolos you to a couple of regular old gigolos unless Mr Brian Posing and and you think sublime fans are similar to juggle. I don't care duty. He's not far off. I mean subcultures like that. I'll see similar in certain ways if you're being honest but you know he. He always said that I've always said the ferries are the Juggle Ozo- nerd culture. Maybe that's why somebody was so offended when he accused them of being one name redacted. I guess not talk about that. I mean I mean I like sublime. I like EP Brian Jose. I like him but he also likes slayer and I think they're the worst band ever as much as they want to say. It's imagine dragons and I'm like have you heard your music. I hate your music and I've seen you live in concert and it was dreadful all right all right enough of this layer bashing anyway we cut. This wrestlemainia showed an I'm once again. I'm not going but it's just I couldn't. I couldn't swing it. If if I wanted to with a with a new job on multiple other things I could do it. I spent a lot of money on these tickets a long time ago so <hes> yeah that was a little easier I suppose but I've never been to Wrestlemania weekend so this is Kinda my like one and done sort of thing here. That's kind of where I'm at. I've I'm not necessarily one in done like I did the one in Orlando it was fun and all but unless it's coming somewhere closer than New New York like Detroit Indianapolis Pittsburgh or Toronto at the furthest like I'm not going and I don't think any of them have a shot except for maybe Indianapolis but for some reason they're never in the mid forty even though they got a great stadium that would create for Wrestlemainia but then you had to hang a mini Indianapolis Minneapolis Indianapolis seems terrible. INDIES is pretty cool. City Alley WRESTLEMAINIA and cool cities IPAD ORLANDO was awesome. I wasn't saw Harry Potter stuff great like than this one's near New York so like yeah. It should only be awesome places. I think if I went I'd WanNa go to S._N._l.. But I don't know if they're new this week or not because I think they are because everybody keeps talking about how Braun strowman should be on it listen. If you want to go to Saturday night live over spring break to then then. I don't know what to tell you I don't know I know I'm the weird person that actually enjoys that but S. and L.'s there. You know what I mean like. You could S._N._l.. The next week or the week after week after hell six months from then S._N._l.. is going to be there in live spring. Break happens once a year man. That was a mad T._v.. Guy You know yeah. That's already language from Co yes. I didn't like Mad T._v.. Because it wasn't live I felt like you can do anything when you're prerecorded yeah right Gotcha but like in living color wasn't live either in that show was great like right. That wasn't live no. I don't think it was but they were their own downfall. I just watched it on them ironically enough where they basically said the network got who involved and they ruined it all. That's better than all of them so I want to agree because I do own a homey the clown doll that I found it a goodwill but I don't know I love Farley so I'm hunt hardcore bias to that homie the clown talk goodwill yeah. That's an interesting find the sentence anyway. This isn't Pod van Damme. We don't have questions from from twitter. We we got this car to go over and going into our normal preview format. We have three matches. We're going to talk about and then we're going to go into picks for the rest of them. Let's start with this match. Let's start with the submit or surrender Dominic Rini versus Joshua Bishop. These two have been on a feud for what feels like a year by don't think so it's kind of goes from what like after absolution wasn't absolution absolution when he when bishop him started I wanNA say was absolution. Wasn't it was just after everything is blending together. I'm trying to WHO's got a computer open. Cayden was here he even know so he might know but this has been going on for a while and I'm curious to see. Where will this be the end will this be the final end of these two are could go even further? I think a with as Maserati the West is going to the show if he's going to Jersey but that's a factor and everything. If can you imagine how many West not party in Wrestlemania weekend yeah. The kids got a frigging jet. He can go wherever he wants. What do you mean if he's going? He might have other owl. He might have other engagements. We're talking about Maserati was here and I know Maserati was it. He loves party these to those things put together. I can't imagine him listen media weekend yeah for he's got his managers licensed to which pretty much allows them to be ringside so I'm pretty sure he's going to be their manager. So does this end here. Is this the end it would be. It would be an appropriate place for it. I could see it culminating here. <hes> but I don't know it's on I pay per view so I feel like we're GonNa have the whole A._i.. W crowd with us whether everyone makes the the travel or not. I think all the regulars are Kinda GonNa be doing. This is one so I could see some storyline progression stuff happening for sure on this match we think at its end here. It's similar surrender right. Where where else could he live murder match like this like with ah I what if somebody comes in interferes though you know what I mean like I got? I guess you're right yeah. I don't know what if Kevin coup interferes and then we see some tag type stuff yeah sad com versus on if they're going to call himself the city shooters but you still have those like that could be fun. I think I've with that I think it ends submitter surrender somebody. Somebody's doing something to somebody where they're they're. It's going to end there. I agree. I think also going forward this could very well be then like I could see like I haven't decided whether I think it's going to end or not but just going over possibilities. The next show has gauntlet for the gold yeah a couple of shows after that is Jalen and lot of feuds kind of like end right before those but they'll get relive it no pun intended which but look at reignited and had it out of a new wrinkle too because I mean it's very unbelievable that let's say bishop wins but dom wins Gauntlet <hes> it's weird. It's weird that <hes> we I still thinking about the the AGILA cashed in from J. Let how that kind of bums me out. He'll be he'll be will be you know <hes> back this weekend so could he could. He come to this year's Jalen do something that's the okay. There's the other thing his return. Is that spring break correct yeah Friday night if it if it wasn't set up like that this is I think this would be crazy to say we're. We're GONNA eventually talk about the main event but let's say whoever wins the main event they get cash in by Jamila like on the spot but he's making yeah if he didn't have the right if you didn't have like well this is my official return. I would say you know what what why not that but at the same time but I think he's given given that juicy W for streak I mean I don't. I don't think you're gonNA see that before Friday night. That's what I'm saying if he if he didn't say that but he did so it's like okay. I WanNa take his word for it that it's not had had had A._i.. W Ban like after spring break cake like that late show after like how black rafters yeah it could have maybe worked out that way but what if what if I'm right but he cashes in but not for that show for gauntlet he just comes out and says hey. I want a shot at Gauntlet Bieber's Mike. It's been long enough gauntlet. Let's do this yeah 'cause. It did say in ring so maybe it's maybe he comes out and says some that'd be awesome. As a WS raining Jamila lamarcus <unk> enjoy thoroughly yeah I would easily say you're the the reigning Genoa Mark I don't. I don't know if anybody loves them more than you. It's bad boy man I mean there are a couple of people that I think that are huge fans of his but I think you take the cake he he was one of the first like India guys to get me to kind of really buy into indy wrestling and I guess maybe that's why I like him as much as I do. I don't know I think comparing you to other. Genera fans like comparing meet Ed on Fontaine Correct Eddie Fontaine right of Marion Fontaine okay. I'm more on the level of you pat. I love like I'm that huge Fontaine. She fairness note no event it. That's fine. I really like the boogeyman so you ought to eat worms at wrestle con. Oh man no totally worms so are you seeing them at risk on though is only going to be there Saturday on dial man but you know who is going to be there. The boogie Woogie me in should evaluate the picture. Take it with him. Similar surname son similar PAT Chote. Maybe you can jokingly confuse them and be like all the grey. Oh you don't have your face paint on the day. You didn't bring the worm worms man three layers. I'm wrestlers if they're anything they're not you know what they are is. Just they love jokes. jokey silly great exudes. They're definitely silly. Boys and I can't wait for wrestle con Tony. I WanNa see Tony Atlas. Just look pissed off like I mean Greg Valentine looking miserable. You can dance sandwich on rich stokes cam awesome really I don't. I don't understand how people can spend like a like a whole day. There I went I went to mania. I went to wrestle two days but I might have been there an hour. Each day if that most of it was walking around or chilling by the W why that was like there was a couple of people I wanted to see I got knocked those out quick each day and that was it <hes> so we were talking about a wrestling match what happened <hes>. You're talking about Greenie versus Joshua Bishop but then we got we got we got on the Genoa Tangent you know I you know what I was GonNa say. Though <hes> real quick is side from <hes> Swat Steiner <hes> which no offence but when I make my statement I think everyone would agree pretty much. Every other match on this card could be like an A._i.. W main event so like we you know there's been people that Kinda Shit talk the w Carter a little bit and leave it to the big boys Blah Blah Blah. I don't know I think it's going to be pretty sweet like every match on the card could be like a regular show at homes like main event like I said aside from Swat Steiner like pretty much everything I mean. Maybe not the Ethan Page Cabana four t tag but I don't know that that would be a big match argue every yeah I could probably argue everyone aside from spago Steiner if you really had me too so. I don't know I think I think this mania show is going to be pretty awesome personally. I want to put a request out there John Thorne. I don't know if you'll listen to this but somebody might listen tell him. Can you please try to book Disco Inferno. I just WANNA BOO him so bad. Don't give them money yea <unk>. He's not he's not GonNa do that no matter what no matter what the idea people doing share but he still gets to go home with a paycheck now kirk anyone wants that can can you work out the deal that he takes all the meet-and-greet money nobody goes and get to meet and greet <hes> but I don't know how the business works but no one no one wants. No one wants to pitch with that Kook. I didn't like him before he talked shit about A._W._S.. And that was like oh you just like buried yourself even more. You're you're a fucking joking W._C._W.. Like you imagine giving us shit with Glenn Gilbert things. Did you imagine giving shit when people like Cornet and Rousseau when all them think to. There's people out there that just worship those fuckers. I yeah the love Corny through so we got a history look. There's this funny thing that happened in wrestling tear you what shot up do I have you on mute for reasons awesome do not like you but that's just me man so <hes> what else what other matches we got here. I'm excited couple more days of work and I'm we're there. We have the A W tag team title match attached to Infinity and beyond the defending champions versus the production versus p. m. e. versus the boys from Jolly Ville Aka the Jolly Ville Fuck. It's this this match along with the main event match. We'll talk about next. X was really <hes> put together at the last show. Why am I blanking on the name from it? Not Wrestle Rave will get on that review later this week seven year itch. Thank you seven year itch a side note. We've had slight so many shows at once. I'm not I'm talking about coming up but it was like shows that were announced like at one time we had like a good five or six. We still have once coming saw them now to a point where Mike whim show was at now anyway back to that. Both of these matches were built at seven year hitch to get into the slumber party massacre. This is a really hard match for me to like pick a favorite I went up obviously picking picks right now but you have to invent beyond defending champions champions for majority of the last few two years. The production is on their way up. Peony is hands down one of the most popular tag teams in A._I.. W and the veterans the fuck its former tagging champions and have been trying to regain the titles ever since they lost them ever since they came back to w like how how are you feeling about this match start with you. Did we lose him unless he's on mute or he walked away from the microphone and you'll comeback. I'm like five minutes. I don't know well are the better <hes> it's there's going to be so much going on in this match. You know like you said it's four pretty big. Well known tag teams in Ahah W <hes> Cheech <hes> when you when you listen into this because we know everyone all the wrestlers listening to this show <hes>. Can You bring that rb Desierto help. You got it in your bag for me. Buddy is bring the R._V. Shirt. There's an attack that shirt for me buddy <hes> we YEP Yemi arising real hot <hes> production also rockets on their asses as beloved tag teams. Johnny will fuck. It's impossible and we're not doing picks but it's impossible to pick man we A. Going on. How are you feeling about this match? Now that you're back the productions get weird shit and I'm into it yeah. You're all for that of course yeah. It's getting real weird big fan at all <hes> the fuck are always terrifying to pick against a to infinity beyond you know because they always win always win always win. All is lamb. They always do always always win. You would figure that P._M.. As moment has to be coming I don't know whether it's going to be video absolution the Chandler Biggest Memorial Tag team tournament. It's gotta be coming. It would be like that huge. I think because they've they were planning on having it. Be You know Magnum and Frankie versus the weird world and that was probably going to be the world's big moment. Unfortunately you know things happen and now are where at this this four way match the P._M.. At that moment or do we push it off later. I think that's going to be a big I if they don't win between now and at the very least at the end of the year but I say half solution like that's going to be huge mainly because they're so loved waking up yeah I mean I could see I could see the moment happening but you never know I mean maybe they this could be something to build even further towards absolution. Maybe they you know win. Becca cheated or you know something and don't actually win. It's hard to say maybe the maybe the chases better for p. m. e. than than having who knows <hes> charred to say. There's there's four really kickable teams in this so it's hard to say any which way to be honest I. How do you feel about P._M.? Head I I WANNA I wanNA say they have a great chance to win this match but then we also know that to infinity on always win you know they win. They win all the time all all the time always and they don't lose and that's key so I don't I don't know when they're moments coming because to infinity beyond I I mean P._B.. And Horn will beat them but then they want again because they win all the time and ended a four way and opens it up for easier Shenanigan. You Know Rolled Teaching Colin. They you know so it's I don't know I could see I could see it happening. I'd love to see Ame the the champs. I was Kinda thinking imagine if the weird world screwed me out of the titles because that was their moment they got robbed and they had to sit on the bench and that the sell beer or whatever they're doing for the show man. I really hope they let worldwide behind the bar for the ad that'd be show. Make it feel like home for you boy. I we're going to be a few states away and the White Eagle Hall is not GonNa be like any venues. WE'VE BEEN IN CLEVELAND SO if all worldwide's behind that bar your boys going to be feeling real real comfy I was gonna say when's the last show that W had had beer but I forgot wrestle raven. I wasn't there he but that's not an ethic year thinking like Mount Carmel where like the the you know the talent near the students and whatnot were the bartenders so I'm guessing you're going for well that whatever they're doing but in my head when I think w shows because for so many years that's where we went. I think Malcolm Oh it's hard to get used to like Oh when I think w I'm thinking of a different venue because so many years limbo ozzy before that was turned all and now we're GONNA we're spending another period where were just bouncing around though I do like the the Parma location and sucks there's no bleachers so people can't get that kind of aesthetic but all along like it was pretty fun venue. It was big enough to I felt like it held us good. We weren't like cramped in there Ohio. Nets was my favorite yeah. That's right by my house. I'm all for that place. I think that's probably the closest venue to my new work which is like right on the border of Brook Park in Berea all right and let's move on to the main event of of the evening the a w absolute title match the New Champ P._b.. Smooth versus filthy. Tom Lawlor versus. Tim Dons versus the intense champion Matthew Justice. What a way may well? Maybe not the main event of all four these men in the title match you have P._B.. Like I said the new champion the vet in A._i.. W Tim Dons Philly Tom Waller who has incredible <hes> record and the resurgence of Matthew Justice since he came back like two years ago like the resurrection of Matthew Justice Has Been Insane and he has the potential of walking out both champions justice to belts absolute intense champion Yeah you say you're not sure if it's a main I thought they it is. It's the main of that right. They said that I wasn't sure if they would do that or swale and Steiner. No no no. That's not okay no. I'm pretty sure it's been it's been it said that that that is the main event. It's going on last how yom how you feel about this. Match Bat. It's going to be is going to be a fucking brawl. I know that <hes> <hes> four all P._B.. Is Pretty fucking pissed off. <hes> I know that you to this isn't a review of that show but <hes> youtube or not at wrestle rave <hes> p._B.. Smooth is pretty fucking in pissed off at I suppose the entire ad says a whole I guess is Alan wants US trying to put over no he thinks no one believes him in him and he's just kind of a placeholder so he's real fucking pissed off <hes> Matthew Justice as you you said it is on an absolute fuck and tear that danishes destroying shit <hes> as everyone who is in attendance wrestle rave knows this wild shit he's capable of some some wild shit <hes> filthy time absolute beast <hes>. He's the man I it's decision is <hes> Tim dons also less. We've said <hes> has had some of the best matches of twenty eighteen with w spent done some wild sheet as well so it is going to be an absolute barn burner while all deserve <unk>. It's going to be wild <hes> kind of excited that it's in a new venue in a weird place because maybe they can jump off or break some wild shit. We don't have to worry Oh. They're not going to be an invite invited back. You know what I mean. They do some wild Al Shit and will be Thursday night as opposed to like Saturday where they might be a little more lenient. You know they haven't been being bitched at for three days straight of people breaking chairs and whatnot so maybe they can get away with some more wild shit. I don't know I just know it's going to be a crazy crazy time. I think Pe- be trying to get to my heart talking about danced and that Promo House like Oh. He's he's he's pretty angry this. What did you say he came out and cut a promo at the end of wrestle rave bed he? He's pretty upset. You have a I think a couple videos of it online yeah he put a video out of it for sure <hes> in the absence of wrestling cheers not being ak me doing the videos. Does there is a lot of people covering for which I've lead into for us. You just did it for yourself which is fine but no it you actually help people like me who couldn't go and I got to be on the other side of it to see a lot of the the highlights that that was that not not everybody I think at that Promo but sometimes like those are some of the best moments yeah you can get the in ring ship but promos that air W is not necessarily going to you know put out on youtube not to mention with as much. I didn't think about until we were talking about it. You know one of the big matches from last year was frigging dance versus justice. We now added into this match right. They're pretty familiar with each other. I'm like I said filthy. Tom Lawlor and hopefully this is going to be crazy. fucking match and I don't know what that venues like. I can only imagine it's GonNa be fucking great. What are your thoughts on this match Ed? It's real. It's a real weird match a home P._B.. SMOOTHS got a lot to prove that doesn't mean he's GonNa be able to 'cause isn't there was <hes> match justices insane. Tim Dons twos proven veteran and then one of the Battisti's of the planet. Tom Lawlor I. It's it's. It's hard to say. WHO's GonNa win this chiefs? Everybody's everybody's got pretty much nickel chance at this point. You know what I mean like. There's no heavy favorite yeah. I really do WANNA see Jarallah. Come out no matter who wins man that would be a way to end the show. That's for sure it allowed to yeah. I would think I mean just an appearance too. I would think if there's anything that I mean he's as far as I know the contract stuff. I don't think his stuff goes to like October. Something I think him in somebody else have the contract where they can work some dates no up until a certain day but either way if what you're talking about you know where he just comes out <hes>. I think you're allowed to do anything like that where you can just appear especially for a W. I don't think they have any type of clause like that where you can't even appear like I'm curious and I could. I want to call Tony and ask them but I also don't WanNa likes to GE- out anything you know what I mean yeah well. Did you get. Did you get co opted yet or still cleared. Check okay good goal from the money good. I think that would be a gray moment. Angelica obviously not necessarily cashing at that moment. I understand keeping that for G C W it's it's been advertisers such that shouldn't be broken. Stop you there. It's actually a e w wrestler Josiah Ella we gotta check cleared so we got a year but good call ed the check cleared so my check in as much as I would love to see that happen I just. I just don't think it's GonNa I don't think. I don't know I don't know I. I'm looking forward to Friday night. When we you know we're going to see him at night? I think it would be incredible but I just think it might. It's a little too much for I don't know I don't know they say who he's wrestling clean reading. That's part of it but there was also supposed to be a big announcement tonight and I they did announce something but I don't know if that was. I guess that was not not who's wrestling but what they announced mayor. We'll see but I there's there's a part of me that does hope whether it be this show whether it become Lynn wherever whenever it is that Georgia does get the cash in he I hope he does we don't become the you know. The hits think it'd be like whatever moment where they don't you know cash. It's uh-huh one other person. Maybe not or something like that said I don't know if it's been referenced before but that would really suck if he was the one <unk> time limit on it as like a year or does he use it before the next one I think they said something to the point point of using for the next one but they were Kinda. I think they've stated that they kind of gave him more. 'cause it's 'cause Joey pretty much right. I mean that's fine the little asterix beside the rules put because Joey like I don't think anyone's GonNa argue that it's me right. I mean it's mainly because of the injury like didn't get a proper chance to cash in like they weren't sure the tells us is big. Mike Galligan in the same situation happens. We're not holding handed over for you know what I mean. I think it's because it's showy pretty sure that's that's what it is. I mean he he's the only one to win jail it but he wasn't going for the contract thing. He put his title on Line that everything was four similar to air crime but that was a vacant title because that's one thing that I was always tripped up on thought elegant was all putting the title on the line but also given the opportunity for someone to have that shot so I thought he could've used it like after losing the title but turns out no that's not the way it was told so yeah. I hope we get to see a cash moment from obviously it would be. That'd be pretty awesome all right. Let's go to this commercial break and we'll become right back with the rest of the picks. Are you tired of the same old pro wrestling thing then check out the amazing action on Power Slam Dot TV the biggest indy pro wrestling channel in the world get over four thousand hours of the best pro wrestling events from over one hundred and ten the biggest names in the industry over fifteen countries around the globe. Get your free trial to date at Power Slam DOT TV and we're back so let's dive back into this card and let's start making some picks. Let's start off with the match that started all the announcements are starting to all the hype with Scott Steiner versus Suenaga as much as I would. I think it'd be cool or funny deceased Waga with it's it's gotta be Steiner honor. This has to be signed all fucking day how you say on a preface all of my pigs with this all right but that's not set in stone because what I'm GonNa do is cheer for everyone. I heard I heard I heard David. Dixon spans come in everyone the he does in hopes that we become best friends so because I've got a lot of Hulk Hogan questions so I want to be best friends with vicks okay listen. I got a plan all right just a disgust <unk> stuff like this with me beforehand. I think I'm discussing it with you. Now say yeah if you whisper he can still hear you. You know you don't know that I do know science behind it <hes> s if I have to pick you might not set in stone cheering for victories for I'm going to go Scott Steiner yeah. They were saying that Suenaga was saying he wanted to do something big for any weekend didn't get that like his many bookings last Jersey wines. WHO said he wanted to do something this year? I think it says Scott Steiner is GONNA kill 'em in in Stein's gonNA murder Swab on SWAT SWAT GONNA get murdered. That's that's what the big thing is going to do is going to get murdered so yeah. I got good Steiner winning this Z.. Com moffat asked you think man for sure because I mean they've already. They've already <hes> they referenced that. He said he had trouble working with little people so because of their their bottom heavy so I'm sure that's gotta becoming how about Eddie Kingston versus Otani. I honestly don't know much about Otani. I'M GONNA go with Eddie Kingston. How about you ED? You know more than than two of us. In the future Otani junior heavyweight anyway headed heavyweight run too but most have right right in new Japan left desire one most importantly though he used to have red hair and come up with Samurai swords. I don't know if he comes Samurai swords or not anymore. I guess we'll see it. I'm very excited about that. Yes in in the graphic. He's like miming. A Samurai sword a kind of bums me out that he doesn't have a sword as a P. Awesome if he did come out with fucking swords that'd be her and he does he does pretend swords. Is that cooler. What do you think cool man be pretty fucking tight yeah? I'm down with that. So what's your picks. Any is any Kingston. I got otani. I think Kingston puts a tiny over. I hope we don't see any go out. <hes> you know he's threatened to threaten to leave wrestling at the end of the year but I gotTa Otani we have the Mexican death match rematch Sh- La Familia de Tijuana versus the young studs youngsters one the first round right. I don't know I'm pretty sure they lost after Eric. Ryan got power by them through a plate glass window. Okay Bar Boyer born got all fucked up he. I think they lost okay that I'm going to be at this time around. He I agree. I think we see Bobby Beverly Eric Ryan get that the rematch here the the revenge mania moment here for sure this one's GonNa be wild is all fucked to <hes> Magana situation where <hes> where we're not in the home building where no one's Kinda worry about like Oh. Hey you know you're not gonNA be invited back at Shit so yeah I think Eric Ryan asked for something like he wanted like four hundred forks yeah. So how about you add some real talk a you know. You know who's going to win this right who nobody remember that last match they don't WanNa do anything like air heard about beverly. Did everything that match yeah. I got I could soon but they didn't do shit like I could see where you're going audette but I I see air grind and bobby getting the win here personally. I don't know what's the odds are. What are the odds that restore jobber throws a chair and gets kicked off a venue again? No we're past knocking. Let the happen APPA listen. I'm on way better. Watch now. <hes> there was chairs if this last show and I convinced a different person math restore this time totally different person to not throw a chair awesome. Wow because I'll tell you guys off the air. Oh yeah it was almost the same exact situation and I said no no no don't do that that grabbed it and put it back down and this person thought better of it looked around and went. Oh Yeah Right. I'm telling you it was not it was not Bryant to yeah. I'll tell you off the air. The only reason I'm not saying this person's name is because not not saying but Caitlyn's good they were definitely GonNa throw the chair and I was like no don't do not do that. Don't do that now with somebody who should know better but didn't really know better later but yeah not saying it in that moment you know yes. She Gets Wild Man Shik. It's wild. I does but yeah he he's even page M J F versus Colt Cabana and Space Monkey. I'M GONNA go Ethan page in J. F.. How `bout you ED AT A? I gotta go with Ethan Page J._F._K.. Because I always pick Ethan page and found out today the M J F is also also really loved the Rosie O'Donnell show just like I did when I was a kid and like I can relate to that and now now I like him. He is better than us. We do know that he's friends with Rosie. O'Donnell come on yeah yeah. I'm more surprised at that. Clip is making another round another round Pat. Thank you thank you thank you. We've seen this clip before. No one wants to believe me. What was it spring break last year spring break to when they played this <hes> I don't remember then I've seen his dad share like his other dad who the guy who he believes to be his daddy's shares on facebook so I I've seen it then yeah? I knew I've seen this about a year ago for sure. Eh <unk> yes. I knew I it's it was a moment that I was. I feel vindicated right now. It's awesome <hes> but yeah <hes>. I think it's an page. <hes> an jeff is a powerful fold tag team. <hes> the is so so like is Ethan pages with Dr. Dan is like M J F under the tutelage of D._C.. Are Now to like I feel like he's better than Dan Right. He's not taking. The taken advice from Dr Dickhead right no I think he's just by association just like Nj F- has been with Duke money before but he's not part of Duke Money Okay all right that makes sense how `Bout Semitic surrender dominant. I'm agreeing versus Joshua Bishop. I'M GONNA go Dominic Greenie. How about you that <hes> yeah I got? I got dom winning this one but I really think that <hes> trash brings brings the tool and kind of finally maybe maybe earns dimes respect here at the end of it. He kinda has a big brother puts him down moment but he also kinda finally little brother ends a little respect. Maybe <hes> and they go back to how they they were in. It's not so much you know I think dimes dimes lesson it landed in Josh is going to Kinda prove gets earned some respect but I I got taken the lead. I'M GONNA I want to go Josh Bishop. I like I like the ways been carried of self lately. He's got some real nine hundred ninety eight Kevin Kevin Nash Vibes to them so that's awesome. So how can you bet against somebody with of a of a nine hundred ninety eight Kevin Nash. I mean I agree. I think bishops great but dom has been fucking pissed lately. There is a fucking fire behind is there's a reason we haven't had him on so I could talk to him about Shrek matches and it's because he's a no mood talk about Shrek matches dude he will beat the shit out of you for saying that <unk> won't beat up over <hes> my idea for Shrek match. You know I wanna get Mike You Millennial on here so I could ask him to pay. I five question about wings just so he can be the one person to give their reasoning. Why bonuses better listen even a wing? Hey he says it's better so scared of Bones I. I don't know you've got him on your show when you ask them feeling. Boneless wings are like Diet Wings Right. Did we have then we. I think we redacted that. Does that as episode still off. I don't think we did that yeah. I don't know until tell you what you're talking about S- asking about chicken nuggets man. I know you guys deleted that episode. That's fucking hilarious. No no I don't think we did. I'm just being an asshole once they're up there up all right speaking pod Van Damme a two guys that have done the intro for pod Van Damme. We have Manse Warner versus Nick fucking gauge age. This isn't like another main event contender for regular air w shown cod I so wish I was seeing this live but if I'm I'm picking between the two I'm GonNa go man's Warner have a you had. Would you say that those are the two most popular Mueller <hes> Dame Openings No. I just said that they were. They were two of them would would you say they are because I think those would be the two five ones right. I think so I mean how many other ones are there. <hes> Steve This guy and ask 'em Jeme J. F.. Good one all manser tells the girl not to drink and drive. He's doing his duties. Solid Guy Man winters just a good guy. You know he realize <unk> avenging me era now thankfully ago answer. This thing goes me answer. I really don't know what to do. Guys I think I think Nick Gage is going to be office office game mentally no because in the same area of of of the world is going to be David Arquette his Kryptonite the only man brave enough to shoot on that gauge and I think that's that might be messily might be office game of always constantly look out for David Arquette. Are you making thinking puppet David Arquette. I know I have too much respect for David Arquette. He's shooter. I wouldn't want to make a mad shoot on me about puppet Vance Warner will know this up at Manse Werner would be awesome yeah. That's what I'm thinking in. It's so many puppets well puppets though get blues making these puppets time to make all these puppets you never you never made we'll. That's licensed material Israel. We don't talk about an M._p.. P._G.. But yeah guys back to this though for real what am I gonNA do man who. How do I decide who to root for here like can this be a situation where I just root for both them because I like I honestly don't even think it really can't be because like gauge wouldn't tolerate that right like if he sees me rooting for Manse he's I'll probably get kicked out of the gang? <hes> the silly thing protecting us at this point I mean like he told me that we're gang affiliated. Just root against your gangly. I mean that's pretty fucked up. I don't know I don't know man. They'll Manson's my guy. I I honestly don't even know if I could make pickier. I might literally Donald Man Manhunt off. I could do it be an M._d.. K. affiliated is one of the only things protected poverty dame right now. You know what I mean and you just picked against him. You son of a bitch. That's not doing us. Very good doesn't know me he listens to this show. You know my face. That's true so he does know my face. Though exactly I've had multiple encounters with Mr Gage. He knows exactly who I am so man I don't I can't I can't choose guys <music> can't do it can't do it. You got to pick. I pick the winner to be the audience because there's GonNa be an incredible match so you can I do that. You're picking a time limit draw. He asks okay. It's your in the audience wins because it's just a hell of a match. That is my answer hunker. Hell yeah that's that is some fence riding rate their press like it did a pretty good pretty good sir. I got nervous thought he's really GonNa make me pick one. That was good. Are you full that off. I was going to make you pick one but then I was like if you're not GonNa pick one then technically you're picking tie you got it which is GonNa get <hes> gauges scary right and he likes you. We gotta get him on on twitter like the the corporation itself fixed US whole no one can search for us thing what happened can't search for Pod Dame on twitter because for problematic content oh no. Is that what you said to that guy one hundred percent. That's what it is yeah ed can we should we just make another pod van Damme account like l.. <hes> vandamme like Alberto would he no he goes ell. We could be Alpi van Damme. Oh no refined where we are sitting on the new pod Vandamme facebook page no book. I have my grandma's set that up. Justin was on the guy behind the other one. I don't think it's been updated in a year or two. We know he had one. I've told you you had one and I forget things. I'm Joe. I didn't know we had one either. Eh about the WHO cares facebook real-life. It's positive podcast it's Pod van. It says it's the title of the page pod Van Damme podcast. I'm glad it exists. Are Let's go to the Awa tag team title match to infinity me on the defending champions versus the production versus p. m. e. versus the Jolly Ville Fuck. It's put up or shut up time right now. Whether repeat emmy comes out victorious I'm going with a safe bet to infinity and beyond but I think is going to come close to finishing beyond a Beta. They win always in all the time so so. I'M GONNA go with them all right well. I'm not picking those jerks unless rings my shirt cheech. I know you're listening if you bring my R._V.. D for twenty shirt you guys. They'll probably win every match that cheech funds <hes> otherwise I'm going for the pin me unless he brings by cheats brings my shirt. It's just the shirt come on cheech on man. Do me a solid brother. What's wrong come? On what are you scared of. He don't even wear it right. I won't tie it in that like a weird. Nineties teenager like you did respect for the shirt. She was really really not so just handed over and somebody's GonNa love it she each he will. He's a nice guy. Deep down we we know he's a nice guy and he wills breaking things happen this this episode man like it and then we have the absolute title match P._B.. smoothie defending champion purses filthy. Tom Lawlor versus. Tim Dons Versus Matthew Justice. WHO's walking out champ? I'm GONNA go last. Let's start with Ed feel like one person in this match has championship or about them and it is filthy. Tom Lawlor. I think this this time I would figure justice has the championship workers. He said champion Eboni like he's not the top champion. Justice has been on a chair and he has a championship kind of bottom like you're sitting but filthy time Tom. It's it's either this or he's one in jail at this year. <hes> he's kind of been on the cusp of a lot of things in the I W he's he's a very big name <hes> he he's been. He's been on his way up and I think it's either here or J.. Lit and then something happens you know from him when in Jalen but I like his odds in the four way <hes> I I don't see I don't see P._B.. Coming out of this as the champion and. I think fearlessly time beats him. I'm not picking filthy. Tom Lawlor that's silly not to I think the winner handed new w absolute champion Tim fucking danced man you have really you've really really turned over on that. I'll know know so I could see him lose again but to lose again in that means he wins it again so like in Tim's is he's fine with it because I mean he's not frigging. What's what's his name from old wrestling everyone who wins? It's GONNA actually lose it so I think Tim Tim's fine with you saying that that the man yeah you really loved him. He now <hes> that's fine. I mean gauge beating. It was like one of my favorite moments that someone else's turn. It was a good match yeah that was you know worked for what they were doing. I don't I personally just don't see him coming back again that quickly to be champ again person. I mean anything can it's. It's going to be a wild match. I we now all right. Let's let's wrap this show up any final thoughts <unk> plugs before we go start with Ed <unk> pod Vandamme SA- podcast cover wrestling twitter Sunday and you can fouls on twitter at Van Damme but I just thought you'd like to Click Our name another link or so in talked about us because you can't search for Padre Davide War Man. That's fucked up dude. Why would they do that US gone? I don't know I'm no I can search you guys just fine. They tried to come up could not search five to be like if you search damn our profile would not come up the worst for me but that's because I art like it comes right up. I typed pot and were the first ones to come up so yeah surprised because I'm already filing have. Would it be emailed. Still you can email us. If you want Todd Van Damme Twenty four and g mail we read those emails on pod Vandamme as content Yup true l.. How this works anything else from you? Patrick you could just follow me on twitter at you can in call me run or few. I'm going to mainly a weekend. I'm going to be at all these shows of WANNA. Watch my instagram story. I'm probably putting up a lot of wrestling shit on there that wants just call me Ron. Not You can call me run. Just call me tyrod on Instagram a hell of a time you know what I mean. It's going to be a quality for day three days there for three days Thursday Friday Saturday I would just dread that drive through Pennsylvania but that's just just me mean you drive every day all day. Would it be in Dryden who there it's all boring from from pretty much western New York to like you know past Nebraska's boring as all hell Pennsylvania's one of the worst that in Tennessee East I've Gone Hawaiian Man Ohio's pretty boy and Slat to thought about being flat. It's just pure nothingness. I feel like there's more places in Ohio than they're like literally your two biggest cities in Pennsylvania Vania on the opposite side of the State Harrisburg kind of in the middle and it's okay size for the resin just knowing Appalachian Mountains this suck what day what day is GonNa come out. This is coming on Wednesday Wednesday. You normally comes out Thursday. Doesn't it yeah just like I'd say I'd W K maybe people will be listening to this while they drive to mania weekend. If you listen to this right now just shout out whatever city you're in right now shouted just yell out to the car. I'm GonNa make everyone in my my car. Listen to this. I don't care how narcissistic and is it takes. Him Breaks in between like the awful playlist is sent to me that you're bad is I don't even I don't even WanNa know what's on your playlist. Oh it's bad we can talk about it now. 'cause by the time this comes out at bad. It'll be in my car. He's already. He's already probably like been like Oh man. If the I. Carly theme song like six Ariana Grande Day songs for miley Cyrus songs a Hannah Montana Song Metro Station Kover starship Tanya Stop is enough. This is enough. No more countries the only artists you've mentioned that I like only child probably I caramba items are probably on it. Stop it A. B. Gaston like the song from beauty and the beast. I think that's on the the cartoon of the remake the cartoon Okay Jazz Kill on me Guerande Salad. I don't Oh you're talking about no no lady Giga no terrible lady Gaga and lady guys terrible but you're always Arianna Grad. Come on enough nagase thousand nickelodeon show called guys nickelodeon show call. Can I disconnect from them. All right you can find the plug season Sam and cat up it just cut him off. He's going to keep going so summers. <hes> you can find myself on facebook. 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Oh well. I wasn't hold on. It's maybe three green like he's talking with sometimes happens but <hes> I don't hear anything from him. Do you hear me now. Did you hit a button Justin. Do you hear me now now. Hello do you hear me now. Can you hear me Ed okay. Can you hear me Van Damme while he's gone the questions. I wonder if he's we. He said we didn't have any questions. We just put the tweet outrace tweeted in it's true Uday. Seriously can't hear me <hes>. I'm probably wonder if he can hear us. Yes yes. I can hear you for low though Mrs Strange of don't meet yourself because now we well I one of close my chain see he's sitting in something. It's green but we can't hear you. I can hear you know Morse Code. I don't think it works like that. Can you hear me now back. It's a little like a little rugged but we can hear you how rugged that's bad. Let's get better because area for a long time. I could hear you the whole time. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 83: One Last Hell On Earth At A Church (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 83: One Last Hell On Earth At A Church (Preview)

"Quitting your burgers of a coffee table. If you want to eat a burger put it on a bar Vol your instincts to be dubbed for the new all American cheeseburger fresh juicy fiefs fastest crispy around the edges covered a gooey cheese and stacked to the ceiling with deliciousness knocked baby Dow with a frosted beer at the bar just like those sports God's intended the new all America cheeseburger at Buffalo Wild Wings. Please drink responsibly. This is Magnum C._k.. And as long as you're listening to wrestling cheers you will be sports entertaining way the world take a break from <music>. All your lies hanaway sometime ago where everybody John Trouble on you on you know when you thank you and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name. Even if we're being kicked the fuck out this is wrestling cheers were bought by the trending topics now work at any sports insiders where we preview shows we review shows and sometimes even have interviews along the way of the northeast Ohio independent wrestling scene. I'm your host I am heavyset and this episode will be a preview for this Friday's annual Hell on Earth Hell on Earth Fourteen November twenty third two thousand eighteen bell time seven thirty it is the final event at least for now at at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Thirteen fifty five West Seventieth Street Cleveland Ohio and a vote. We get into all that let's get into some housekeeping of course you please rate review and subscribe on Apple podcast Google podcast Stitcher tune-in Youtube spotify iheartradio popping wrestling cheers dot pod being dot com. You can get a hold of us on all your social media like facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash ranchers twitter dot com slash resin cheers instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email. If you so choose to desire wrestling cheers at g mail DOT COM and we have emerged or over at what a maneuver dot net like. I said we will be covering a I W's hell on earth fourteen preview and it'll be featuring L._A.. Park before he had all that again. That's it's going who else is going to be on the show. I am joined by first and foremost let's start with Rick. Hey our area. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. How's how's how's your week going northbound? Everything's good. I cannot wait for this week to be over awhile. Actually by the time I guest everyone hears this. The week will be most of the way over and I'm kind of excited for this Friday. I know your other guests feels the same way. I know one thing about this particular episode we are it is has download Alamo addicts explain this <hes> it's releasing a day early so yes normally released on Thursdays but with fithian thanksgiving and some people don't listen to podcasts that day we are going to do one day prior but you already know that by listening listening so yes don't be alarmed. This did download a date early in for good reason. Actually you're going to see a new episode and the next week or two. That's going to be a bonus episode where I'm going to be helping preview power bomb the world premiere event <hes> which that is December sixteenth <hes> seven P._M.. At Capitol Theatre <hes> we go all about power bomb and I'll have a intro and closing talk a little bit more about the event and if you get a chance come out to to premier seems like it's going to be a great show but anyway without that <hes> we also have Ed van Damme at or whatever Ed Young Ed Drunk Ed. I don't Wanna be called that Ed and he nicknames is what I have any of that many nicknames that Oh many many nicknames that okay so how's how's your week going. Oh my God it is. It's a disaster already missed one day. That's good working a lot. They're trying to shove a lot of hours into few days because we have days off for Thanksgiving and whatnot and it's been pretty brutal and then you get to move. I don't even get those days off Thanksgiving because I'm moving. I mean you get those days off but I mean man and then I of course I w Friday so before to all right. Let's get into this show and we got a couple of matches. You know though we pick that we're GONNA talk about before we get into actual picks for we as of this recording we only have seven matches announce Fars what I've been told these will be the only only matches announced but of course in typical fashion there will be more than these matches so that's something that I've always looked more into do do before we get it actually all that does anybody WanNa say anything about out the final show at Mount Carmel Ed you WanNa you WanNa go first you. Should I go I it's like I think it was around the second or Third Mount Carmel show so this is Kinda just an A._i.. WS A place for <unk>. It's GonNa be Weird Man. I don't know I don't dig it. I don't understand how any church getting four hundred people in can like regularly could be. That's a bad thing because like I've books things up churches before helpless stuff together like no matter what it is they're usually pretty stoked and people there so this weird unlike it. How about you go the same basic vibe that edges echoed? I have the only other places I've been to w shows are the are the Akron venue music links winchester things like that but as far as like a <hes> a normal you know normal venue. This has been the one for me in the brow just going on three years that I've been around <hes> <hes> I believe Ed probably the best I I don't really dig it. I mean I get it. <hes> you know he can't he can't deal or change the minds too easily of some of the religious folks who have their mindset on what they're gonNA do when and how they're going to do it <hes>. It's a shame I I don't feel like <hes> you know we've ever been disrespectful to the you know to the church the venue to anything like that to warrant getting kicked out <hes> you know maybe it was just time to run its course. I have faith that they're gonNA find something. Hopefully you know bigger and better I guess as the is the expression I wanna use but <hes> the whole thing's a little love makes me a little melancholy to disabled list or find a new place to said you know the anxiety. That's GonNa Cause to understand you. Have a lack of bleachers is GONNA is GonNa kill you if we we got someplace else. That doesn't Apple Ono to do God that's true. I can't like sit Indian silence chair no not easily you can't. I mean you could try on other close to people. I don't know about the legroom for it. You probably could your twig for sure I mean I'm somewhat used to having a fine like pick a new new place to sit. The ironically enough we know in this podcast was the Ohio we need report. That's win they win from Turner's hall to Our Lady of Mount Carmel and it it felt the same way <hes> you could actually go onto power bomb NC hell on earth ten which I believe was ten. I'm a huge fan of that. Show and one of my favorite matches is on there with <hes> Marion Fontaine versus Rockstar spud and Turner's hall was packed that night and towards like that last maybe six months to a year that's kind of what the vibe was at the shows that they were packed and a lot of people were there and <hes> the. Heating and air conditioning sucked really bad but it was home so then when at that time it was going to be shut down even though it was saved and bought by somebody else we didn't know what we what we're GONNA do wherever we're going to go and then we got our lady of Mount Carmel and I think I've mentioned it before about how you know. It was kind of a blessing because Artie McConnell was bigger. I don't know like where we're GONNA. Go from here like I. I do think it sucks you know that we're getting kicked <unk> out but <hes> I don't know I I have no ill will towards the people at Our Lady of Mount Carmel. 'cause we know the fan base well enough that there's definitely some bad eggs. There's definitely people who did some shady shit probably probably there on the property. We've had you know fans. Yell Obscene Chit I mean besides the regular obscene shit and <hes> you can only imagine like the things that were done there on the premises and I understand I am probably why they said okay with a we can't be associated with this so I it is what it is but I'm hoping you know what we look back in about a year or two and just go you know what that was worth it like it sucked but we moved on what sounds like right now as they don't have a home and there's like maybe ideas that they can jump around for a little while before they find something permanent but it's going to be hard times for the next couple months probably for W I'm times daddy I think that with Uncle Fred will definitely uncle free. I've been saying I think any time someone I hear like a baby shop master typhoon of tugboat or even dusty Rhodes reference friends. I just find this or even cody. I think they'll go fred. Go free but I mean this is. Just it is what it is. That's the only thing that I could say about it. Am I happy fuck no but at the same time at a would it'd be cool to find a place that actually welcomes us but I wouldn't be surprised if we have to mind our PS and QS for awhile and we have to keep all the shithead fans in line like don't fucking do this all right now with that being said let's move on and talk about some of these matchups and I gotta start with my favorite melk up Jacob Friedman versus Tracy smothers. What do you guys feel about this? Because I got a Lotta Shit I can say I don't know about you guys star Trek really what can you say the words culture clash kind of come to mind. I mean you have M._J.. Who's WHO's better than you and you have? Tracy smothers others who I don't know if he's ever even made the Certian that he's better than anyone else he for this to be the last in Church Mount Carmel show. I don't think there could be a better name on it to have the tracy smothers okay because God only knows what that guy's GonNa say. Attlee knows that guy's GonNa do God only knows you know. He's a an this too bad. Guys is Tracy. Smothers can be a little will more. <hes> welcomed a little more endearing to the the crowd. I mean because we know that that M._J.. Clearly does not care for any of us so I'm kind of anxious to see. It's going to be something I think I got a preview of this match when I went down to p W._f.. was M J F versus Teddy King and Teddy King is kind of the high school jock heat he'll but he's it's really good at it and kind of like an N.. J. F. Way like quick witted knows the right things to say and when they they had basically heel versus heel match and they fucking pulled it off. I think we're GONNA see this the exact same thing with this match <hes>. I'm just wondering I mean are they going to both <hes> right helicopters here. Are they going to like a helicopter poll in her. What was going to go with that? What do you think Ed <hes> m M J F die? You know I try. I try I just I don't dislike on at this point. He doesn't do a lot for me but I like. I'm always stoked to see Tracy. Smothers smothers a I wanNA hear I wanNA hear Tracy smothers more than they wanna see Tracy smothers. You know what I mean like ever match but I wish he could just come out and talk instead. That's what he does is quite literally at any point. Just talk. I I think we should we all have to agree that. This is going to be about five minutes of wrestling in about twenty two minutes of talking. If if you get a chance I'm GonNa just do a bunch of power bond references. I do know on the service dead presidents since Tracy smothers for his Co.. Cabana I think it's like twenty minutes before the match actually happens a bunch of back and forth some dancing and like it's literally like I think a good twenty minutes and I've reward Tracy Tracy smothers match no I'm. I'm talking twenty minutes before the match then then there was a match that long I don't remember how long the actual match was but it was at least twenty minutes before they got the match and that imagine fucking hilarious had probably would be my top five matches. I've seen live of just like comedy wrestling Geez I dunno it's in between that match and tracy smothers versus Graito or he called a a little girl a rat. Oh yes so that on wrestling low tire E._C.. Caught that little ten year old girl rat rat ironically enough. I think that show is power to <hes>. No no sleep till Brooklyn such such a good show. I absolutely love that show to be fair. That little girl was a cop collar so <hes> I don't like I can't be like why don't you get 'em J. F.. You've been like who is a he'll right mu how thanks not like them but ed thanks. There's not enough substance to the character. I think exactly yeah that's. That's what I've gotten from the conversations. We've had about it so I can happen. You can again again work with that like the longer he's around like it can happen and just say right now. I just he's which I guess and that's it like he's rich studied our. I just think he's great with promos like yeah. I'd like quick-witted culture. I I yeah I that's definitely where I was going with that E. He's got he's got a quick wit. Get completely led saying is like okay we get it. He's rich and he's better than you like. We don't know anything else about it like got to show. We don't know alley cat right like that was good stuff. Done like more valleys even the podcast he was on with <hes> Austin meted Austin's five gallon my guy and he was telling the stories about how when he was a you know he was a football all player in college and he was too good for the team so he just quit is in WanNa be because he knew he was better than all the other players and the coaches were coming to beg him to come back and everything so that's the kind of background kind of substance that then it is kind of yearning for when it comes to like you know why what what is about him that made him so much better than everybody else that you know and head scarves and have you seen the Kenny Jonsson documentary with Oh. No actually have probably would take that Dolly Johnson stuff is really good. That's why a lot of the stuff that he talks about on the Austin. PODCAST is used in the documentary but it's that's not. It's is not a normal Kenny Johnston film so I would if you get a chance. Check it out so in between when you're twelve hour shifts like annot pop it in but I think it's like maybe about twenty minutes if not longer twenty minute breaks China. It's it's I think the last documentary of his that I remember watching Dev. I bet adds more to his character. Maybe come back and like let us know if you dig it or you still have questions. Actually there's. I'll just check it out. 'cause there's what happens towards the end. Is something really cool that I love. I'll check out definitely. Check that out all right. Let's move to the intense title match Tim Danz Versus Matthew Justice. I do believe it's not mentioned on the graphic but this is a qualification match. This is basically a hell on earth match and I enjoyed what the fuck did at <hes> rubber city-khan. I'm head really digging. Tim Dons lately but I wouldn't complain for a title change. I wouldn't define Matt just as walks out of the last Awa Vanilla Caramel S. champion as intense champion. What do you think rick? I think they are going to go all over the place I I think they are which we destroy things tables chairs. Whatever there is in that place <hes> to be broken or destroyed will be broken or destroyed <hes>? I just think that that justice justice for one is going to go all out you know this being the last <hes> you know the last show here and potentially the last show for a while <hes>. I think we're going to get a great match. I really <hes> dig. Tim Doubts as well. I'm danced bounced ban. <hes> I just I I think it's time for just our justice to ratchet up to eleven and how we can do our fixed layer on. I'll admit and I did put this on my personal twitter like Tim dons lately on twitter has been like doc killing it or he'll Cezanne ooh that was that was actually a good joke. I I like this trying to pull up one. I mentioned the one before of like asking for a friend. I thought that was great. Go four days ago. He said tree fell on train tracks and my Amtrak lost all power. We lost all heat. Luckily I'm a good he'll hashtag. I am Corny. I was like Ooh that was you acknowledge. It was kind of a Corny joke but USA wrestling turn my I thought it was funny and he doesn't. He's not one of those people who tweets. It's a twenty times a fucking day same old shit but that's that's just me. What do you think Ed on the match for his twitter at home? I think this is why I love Hell on earth because there's always some crazy match like this. I think is the best to you guys to do this right now and I usually only reserve this for no consequences matches but I'm gonNA use it right here. Josh is GonNa win. Shit our see some real stupid shit. I think there's like three matches that are going going to be complete stupid. Shit one way or another or good at the next match is one that's going to be completely stupid and we're not going to get that much into until we do picks but la- park versus Nick Gage really apartment. He's GonNa say like fucking Christ. Those three matches catches alone who knows what M J F Tracy smothers will be like. We have the four way match that was announced today and another tag. Oh we got to tag matches but those three that does match the next match. We're GONNA talk about and the gauge match fucking insane. I wouldn't be surprised if it's like those are three of the matches of the last half is going to be a fucking crazy second-half. I think there's any better way to close out Mount Carmel than with Real Stupid Shit what match you think. The main event party wanted to be this match but I know there's people out there that think and for the most part is what his what happened you know the title match goes last at short yeah. I've put the title match on my ass. I must you know Nick Gage in L._A.. Park if something real nuts planned land like clean up's going to be completely insane so I have to think of my head like how many w shows haven't ended with the title match Abso ten is the biggest one but then again when you have that many any people who are now like mostly in w._w._e.. And two that are in new Japan slash ring of honor Lee yeah. That's a reason why that match went on last <hes> I think sometimes but not all the time I am the crazy matches will go on last except for hell honor eight. I think it is the one where Eric Ryan just bleed like a motherfucker literally if you've not seen that like it's a I wanna say an eight manner ten man tag match but it's like they're battling all around Turner's all and then right after that match was like A._C._H.. Versus A._R.. Fox like that was the main event. Meanwhile look like a fucking crime scene because Eric Ryan's blood was just everywhere. I watched that on power maybe last month and I was tweeting about it and Eric Ryan tweeted at me. I think and told me that like some people left the venue because they were so disgusted. Yeah I tade but I remember it was like it was really weird because you're talking like the seats were all fucked up and just blood everywhere that I was like okay that matches over here's this other match and it was like I think it was like two out of three falls so so I remember like finding a spot where there was no bought pulling chairman gone okay here we go but a lot of people did leave. It's maybe one of the weird is made events. I've ever been around because that matches before it Nokia anything more on Johnston in justice. I'm good. I'm a unique. It's crazy. I was going to save this for the end because I just thought about it but knowing my luck fuck and forget about it who believes at the show God damn end. That's a good a question. I was going to save for the end 'cause I like I said I just thought about it but my luck is we go through all the matches and I go fuck. I forgot about it like after we were done. Who Bleeds? Maybe I mean of anybody. I mean I'd go gauge because away park even if he does bleed who knows maybe gauge <hes> Eric Ryan's Mount announced. I mean obviously would be your odds on favourite if he was start yeah man after that you you've you would think with Johnston Justice. There's a possibility there's yeah there's a possibility but but they do they're going to do crazy enough shit without probably having to bleed man those a really good question and we could have which I'm guessing thing Dan House and we'll have a match potential of him. Leading Yeah Oh Eddie to Eddie loves to plead accents growing brother Yeah exactly as of right now <hes> Eddie Eddie <hes> Derek and Dan housing nothing announced so yeah but there are matches that have yet to be announced. Oh yeah absolutely I'm figuring we're GONNA see all the production one way or another to yeah who who knows who knows what kind of strange cameos you might get to from the <hes> from the Mount Carmel era. I guess in Oh you get. Maybe it's a little <hes> little out of the ordinary in a scramble. I was another power bond reference watching like random chose one thing that I do is I just watched the promos because a lot of the shows I did. I never bought on D._V._D.. Or M._p.. For whatever so I'd ever got to watch all the promos et before the show and sometimes there are people that showed up and I'm like Oh my God I forgot about you and I. I'm guaranteeing you there. Some people like that in the Mount Carmel era where I'm just like where the fuck did that one go and we this year alone any I w there's been a lot of crazy returns a Gary J besties in the world <hes> I know we've had more wrecks brody rex brody thousand great one facade I mean he comes and goes he'll yeah he's he'll be book for block doc shows and then goes around the world for a while and he comes back. <hes> I think early emerged Mao Karma that we haven't seen in a while but I don't think he wrestles at all anymore. <hes> Briley Pierce for those who don't know little doll sigler yeah hot and young. Let's get into the third match. Wait nothing nothing. I said hot young. You're supposed to say just the way Ellsworth likes them on my game and I'm tired here old here in little sleepy tonight. Do you WanNa talk about as Dick <hes> <hes> not pressing unless you talk about his creed. That's a creep Dick. I WanNa talk about that in our Lashley. That's hog. Brother you've you've talked about that on other shows like I was giving you a chance to talk about Ellsworth more. That's like that's creepy. Nah I'm good while Honda fuck up your career that bad. I want to say hats thought worse but I don't know there might be no. He didn't murder anybody. Give that but still who's bringing James Ellsworth the now that guy had a Honky tonk man Gig for the rest of his career like hell come in and be himself and get money for it always be on demand. 'cause it's a weird thing and he just ruined by. I don't know if anybody's going to book him. He's he's no he's. He's toxic. I mean they brought Hogan back but I say that because I don't really give a damn about Hogan like when people bitch about I go on Coca Cola does Lance. That's not my wheel us now. I'm the same thing of a warrior like when people bitch about him. Now he's raises. He's this and he's out like I get Jim. Hellwig was a piece of ship but you know what I really liked. The actual ultimate war like the character was fun so I like that part but other than that now let's get into the less metro and talk about the possibly the event the absolute title match hot sauce Tracy Williams versus Eddie Kingston and I made sure to pull this up. We haven't seen these two have imagined almost a year but Tracy Williams is to know against Eddie Kingston and two thousand seventeen in a first round of the Jalen tournament he beat Eddie and then of course Eddie rulers of the world once again beat Eddie Kingston. Will this be deja Vu or won't up for you act picks. It's just these you are never going to beat the shit. I've each other probably won't be any blood but they're going to beat the piss out of each other. Where do you think rick honestly? That's all I have to say about about this match is. I just think it's going to be hard hitting. I think they're gonNA just beat the living hell out of each other will <hes> so be one of those ones where you have to see what <hes> what we come up with with Eddie Kingston. I'm assuming we're GONNA see gear ear Eddie because I don't think Tracy Williams would settle for any less than that of this is going to be a good one. I got I got some thoughts on the ending of it but <hes> we'll <hes> we'll say that have a you Ed and I've been watching a lot of CANCO. Nobody some very excited to watch. Two people beat the piss out of each other live in person <hes>. I'm stoked on that Tracy. Williams Zanetti always beat the piss out of each other. It's always good. I can't picture this being a bad match up. Super excited for it is probably the match almost <unk> for which is insane because like I've never really been tracing Leeann sky but that title Doug everything he's done and his new shirt is awesome. You guys seen that Oh oh that's cool shirt new great who knew what that was a take on with a you records at Stacy Stacy did stacy all stacey to a thought. A Japanese horror movie from the seventies called the house under something like that. I'm pretty Fisher <unk> pulling up at his record. I feel like we've you know we have done this but Eddie is on a three match win streak in ad w and twenty seventeen the only win he had twins against Wagle but the the streak began with Tracy Williams this is this is a low key few that you know we didn't get like a filthy Tom Lawlor and Dahmer's or something they had one match in May the next match in December in almost one year later were getting the third match. I pardon me would would say that Eddie would win but could you imagine that to Eddie Kingston the the ad of you absolute champion. It'd be great. I fucking muddy but could you see that happening doing predictions right now. Is this transition. No I'm just using it as like a topic. I'm not saying you think he's going to win but like I'm saying oh can. I like that'd be cool. Yeah 'cause man and then like there's lots of bodywork against so that I don't know going Promo time we nice Kingston. The Kingston be a cameraman like that was cool like Eddie. Eddie's had a lot of fun on feuds in A._I.. W head one versus dance for a while. That was great another one versus. I'm here the one frankie the one. There's another one that really blanking on Oh page I would. I'd always be happy to see those two feud again because I think they're both fucking great and if you just find a way to change things up. It's always fucking worth it. What do you think about the possibility of any being champion wreck? I think that is a strong possibility. I'm trying to think think long term here because we don't know what our future holds right. Now we know that <hes> you know we got Friday and after that we have April so start to think about who would be the a man when we get to that April show that's nick fucking cash. What's that well wonder who the man is going to be ethnic fucking gauge obviously but <hes> and could you see Eddie Kingston going into the WRESTLEMANIA? Show is the champ that I definitely elite definitely could see that Yeah I. I think there's going to be a February show. I'd almost be willing to put money on it but I don't even have a date but I would be willing to put money on it but the worst comes to worst. I think we'll be the bar of the <hes> music music links Jack's Tequila Nio all right any other thoughts on the absolute title match possibility of Eddie being champion anything else. Everyone should buy that shirt from Tracy. That's cool shooter any plans on buying shirts this show either view. I'M GONNA have my kid with me so whatever he wants economic fair enough what if he wants to buy kyle of East A._T.. Bay I would. I'd rather have a I would rather have K._t.. See Merchandise but that that's just you know to poor while you're moving the play rex kid and try to trick rick into buying me the entry of literature it might work. You guys are just about the same size I think the only shirt that I'm planning on buying and I'm still not one hundred percent shore is if magnum has the Andy the Kaufman inspired shirts he was supposed to be sweet. He was supposed to have met rubber city on but there was a confusion in the back and forth and he wasn't gonna be able to get him to after rubber city-khan so if he has them. I'm potentially buying one other than that P._M.. E. O.'s my girlfriend a a paint spider shirt yup because I told him the sizes like when they first came out with them. I think I damned up <hes> Marino and do their. You're GonNa make shirts like what what's going on with that like I kind of want one and my girlfriend wants to. He's like okay what size of I told him and he only had my size like we. I think we had one like I don't know what happened like I know we made them and then he I did buy me but I don't know how many they sold so those are those are special. Edition may may order right now yeah so I actually like pre-ordered. I was like okay. Here's the money no show up at the shirt so long things. I don't worry about the money later here this now wait so I think I think that's the only only shared I'm GONNA buy well. Yeah technically already bought the other one <hes>. There's nobody else has a shirt that I really really like. I picked up. I I ended up picking up way too. Many a rubber said he came over nine shirts. No how do that could Lord. I don't even think I've ever walked away with a nine hundred like maybe three or four and that that counts by U._S.. W. I. Sweatshirt but that's going to be the commissioners vice versa the swear the most land the most. I've done this probably three to for my three for my kid then a nice mixture after that I'm looking forward to the end of this year when I can count how many shirts I bought this year. Her because I think my end mark is going to be about three hundred and thirty shirts for the year worn while I'm curious of how many of them are new because I get lucrative I get W._B._Z.. Slam crate and I know I but a good amount assurance at shows good amount assurance at stores I just received one in the mail about my first pro wrestling t shirt and like maybe a year just because I want sack rider and Curt Hawkins to call me so I was like Fuck Hell Yeah Michael by the shirt even which had bought doesn't matter either by for the shirt well. I do like the podcast Yeah Yeah but you bought it for all. Oh Yeah like I missed out the first time I didn't even know they were doing it and then I'd seen videos of it. I started listening to the podcast and they announced what I was going down to p W._f.. And I like finished like the last five episodes that I needed to listen to and I was like Oh. I'M GONNA buy a shirt so yes come. I could talk to you. I can talk to sack writer about ghostbusters anyway. Let's get into this commercial break and we will be right back with the rest of the matches. What's up? Everybody does Alex worldwide killer coming to you live here for a thrift store. Wait wait a minute Wesley who wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name. I know my name is Alex Worldwide Keller and you're listening to wrestling jeers and I wanna tell you all about wrestling cheers t shirts whatever maneuver dot net it's a heck of a shirt because where everybody knows your name and wrestling is a game and the game is pain and pain is what we feel and what we feel. 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Park work versus Nick fucking gauge fraction foregin without will either view beginning pitcher or an autograph with L._A.. Park I was going to ask if they were going to do what meet and greet with L. A. Park. I'm not particularly interested if so but I I think it's I think it's a pass for me. I'm not a Lucci guy but if you wrestled in all Japan oh dude if you wrestle in all Japan Vietnam out because you know the Israeli company in the world he'd no never mind. I just thought about it. They just did a Lucia. Show in ultra bayoneted think who was on it was super crazy so l._a.. Park Nick Gage. Who Do you guys got <hes> all WanNa go with Nick fucking gauge ereck you gotta go with the King? How about you Ed Must <hes> L. A. Park on mass to be a expert shooter David Arquette that I'm GonNa go Nick Gage? I'm curious if he will be there granted this conversation kind of happened before G._W.. But I know he was booked for either of you see any still actually showed up the movie that he was filming got pushed back to March and and I would figure there's a possible annuity that have injury prior to G._W.. So you're as big as bad asses David Arquette you go anywhere you want man so my question is will he be there or not. I mean he's he's not he's not advertised so that's the whole thing if he shows up. It's an added bonus but if he doesn't show up which I kind of thought the thing behind it. was that like okay he's injured. He's got the movie take them off the car and if he if they can get him in great but if not what they don't have to worry about like a refund or anything I hope he is but I don't. I would have said he would have been but that was before <hes> G._W.. Now now. I don't know that'll be the greatest thing I've seen in longtime man. It was nuts absolutely nuts did you. You didn't make a picket. He said Nick Age unless he turns out Valet. Park turns out to be David arquette under a mask N.. Any peace style Yep Malcolm Shakeup Friedman versus Tracy smothers. I'm going M._J.. F. B. Rick Dot go M._J.. As well I don't think I don't think it really matters who wins this. It's it's GONNA be Onda. Who could say the most offensive things the ground have you had 'cause I agree? It doesn't matter WHO's wins this. I'm going to go tracy smothers because why not like here's what I'd like to see. Nj have come out talk Shit Tracy smothers come out talk. A Lotta Shit Duke money comes out talks a lot of shit like right there five people that's counting Duke money has just the Duke Jock Samson and Manse Warner all five of them in the ring. Just talking Shit Thawing one be just like a big roundtable discussion of shit talk. I gotta be great than you could probably translate it into a ten man tag match. But who do you have the other five people be but I think we have. I felt like we've seen in the weird world versus Duke Money Enough enough so I don't. I don't know why we would go with that. I got three production members hanging around that's true. It's as good at twitter who's got a twitter answer a great great everything sees tweet about Enzo. It was amazing. The best thing that Manson's great hat size wrestling is taking pictures. I love his like blank. Stare in an opposite direction love it. That's go with two and finishing me on versus the Philly Marino now experience. I think this is going to be another win for P.. M. E. and hopefully a road to redemption for them. How about you rick? Yeah I gotta go with my boys. Philly and Marino Ed away no way it's going to be to infinity beyond they're sneaky. Boys Nissan Sneaky Shit pull this out. We also have the other tag match the A._M.. W TAG team title match the production versus no consequences. I think the Production Retains Hobby Rick I agree the production retains the titles had Oh yeah the production's going to win this. I don't they against magnitude gained Frankie. They Kinda win a lot four way match. All we go ethan page versus K. K._T.. Be Versus Dominic Rini versus Joshua Bishop. I'm GonNa go Ethan Page Eric. I'll go with my man. Josh Bishop one about you ED. Normally I would have a little crisis about vowed picking between Josh Bishop Nathan Page but a solely just a better my chances to get in on that year lex W board directors. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PICK DOM to win. This cat's no-one picks K. T._B.. Kyle Kyle Kuan Kyle's not wanting fights pat will take K._T.. B. C. I don't root for Ethan Page in a match and I get yelled at by Trunk Ed but he doesn't Pick Ethan page in this match like what the fuck this is. A business decision to Ethan page is GonNa win and I'm going to yell at you. Got This the intense title match. Tim Danced Verses Matthew Matthew Justice. I'm GonNa go Matt Justice. I think there's going to at least be one title change at the show the last show at Mount Carmel go with justice about you rick I agree. I think match justice takes the Title I think this is the big blow off of what has been a long view but some <hes> some crazy matches between them. I think he takes the title and Ed <hes>. I don't WanNa do this sir. I just got to a Tim. How does that feel bad like it but I just I feel like dim? Don's is GonNa pull this one out. I mean it'd be Joe Danila so I can't doubt Oh my in much anymore. No no and then we have the absolute title match hot sauce Tracy Williams versus Eddie Kingston. I don't think they'll be a title change here. As much as I would love to see the absolute champion Eddie Kingston. I'M GONNA go with hot sauce Tracy Williams to keep that bell just a little bit longer. How about you rick? I'm GonNa go with the title switch. I'll go with Eddie Kingston not because I think it's going to happen but because I want it to happen all right there you go ahead. We both picked somebody so all right because I'd GonNa win this one is. I think he's got these number. That's I mean he had to now but it has been eleven months since the last encounter so I do believe that's it's once again a I W hell on earth fourteen featuring Elliot Park this Friday Black Friday November twenty third two thousand eighteen bell time at seven thirty thirty P._M.. At Our Lady of Mount Carmel Thirteen fifty five West Seventieth Street Cleveland Ohio. If you're listening to this air in the northeast Ohio area please come to the show. I mentioned it before the last a show at Turner's hall was packed and I felt like it was packed more than usual. I want to see a final show the same way at Mount Carmel. Let's just pack was motherfucker and have a crazy fuck in night so any a final thought through last minute plums before we go rick. Now I echo your sentiments. I mean it's GonNa be it has the potential to be like a kind of sad downer night but we gotta we gotta take it the other make it a a a fun. You know kind of last Hurrah thing. I think there's GonNa be some crazy stuff happening. I think maybe we're going to get some surprises. I think we're GONNA get good shit. That's GONNA go down <hes> catch up with me. I will have a I got a whole Butler of the reorder of the big John Tucker stickers. That's how are going to be nice and fun to distribute. Don't stick them on anything in the building. Please <hes> we we need to get our security deposit back but other than that I'm will compete thou aspen again with about being pretty pretty princess. You kinda trailed off did we did we get the <hes>. I'm going to have the toine stickers yes at the venue. Yes okay well. That's the really the important parts off looking forward to seeing everybody there. How about you had a Pod van Damme recover wrestling twitter and how awful it is an amazing? This comes out every Sunday mean pat do that. Who've you're you've heard title in wrestling cheers <unk> Saturday the after party a go see patent? Maybe may maybe me maybe I'll be there too. It's GONNA be at Game Day tavern formerly known as front row anyway after party spot <hes> yeah come see me and Pat. I assume hopefully that's how parties work. I'm told I haven't been to many <hes>. When can we expect another episode of benefits? podcasting actually getting reworked right now. We're actually GONNA do something different with it's GonNa be real fun but that it will be back probably around the beginning of the year but yeah we're GonNa do something completely different than what it has been with it. 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MJF - Notsam Wrestling 219

Sam Roberts Wrestling Podcast

1:47:39 hr | 2 years ago

MJF - Notsam Wrestling 219

"Wow. We got a lot to get into today. Two thousand nineteen starting off with a bang and one of the biggest events is going down Friday January twenty fifth the Friday night before the Royal rumble in Phoenix, Arizona, not Sam wrestling comes to copper blues. Live CB live dot com for tickets Friday night, January twenty fifth at seven thirty pm. Not Sam wrestling comes to copper blues live. We'll have guests. We'll have games we've got our whole show planned out. You're not gonna wanna miss it. You won't have to miss that. If you get tickets, and you won't have to miss today's not Sam wrestling because it starts right now. Is. Introducing your host from New York here is Sam rollers. I really am excited about the about the van coming to Phoenix that we're doing about the live not Sam wrestling coming to Phoenix, Arizona. Copper blues. Live CB live dot com. The Friday night before the Royal rumble. I'm putting it together. I'm trying to create a new live event experience. Experience that you're only going to get it's not Sam wrestling experience. Inexperience you'll only get live and you'll be able to be there. CB live dot com. For tickets January twenty fifth Friday night before the Royal rumble. Welcome. It's the first not Sam wrestling of twenty nine thousand nine hundred. And I am so excited to be here with you. We've got a lot to talk about. We've got wrestle kingdom coming up. And while we're plugging stuff, I'll be doing a bonus show this week Friday afternoon after wrestle kingdom. I will be maybe like three or four in the afternoon. Opon onto patriotic dot com slash not Sam rustling. Then if you're subscribed to the tier level to gets the live pre and post shows, I'll be doing an exclusive wrestle kingdom Poche. Oh, four all the not Sam shells at patriot dot com slash not Sam wrestling. But so much to talk about this week. We've got our interview with them J F, we've got all elite wrestling the Royal rumble coming up course, wrestle kingdom will break down. But I'd say the biggest thing going on right now is the fact that this morning after I got done with the radio show. I'm taping this on Wednesday for the Thursday release in this morning. I get done with my radio show on Sirius XM and. And I read the news that we have lost mean, Gino Caroline means contributions to wrestling in general can't really be overstated. You know, one of the things that I like to do working with WWE is every time I get a WWE microphone in my hand. I just looked at my hand, and it's corny as it sounds. I looked down at my hand. And I look at my hand holding the Mike with the WWE Mike flag on it. And I think of everything that microphone always represented even back when it had a WWF logo as a kid, and the reason that that microphone represented as much as it did is because of me, gene, Oakland, I think for a lot of us that are of the same generation mean Jean was DeVos that put all the pictures together in in WWE later in WCW. But really his work. And of course in Awa before that but his work in WWE WWF, really. Put him on the map, and how put wrestling on the men means gene had a very rare talent in the sense that yet a name like that he had a presence and avoi- sauce and an ability that made him a household name. But his goal was clearly always to get over whoever. He was interviewing he did what every good announcer should do. And that's to get the talent over that. They're talking to and he did it every single time. He did it from his backstage interview segments. He did it on the stage. There was a time. When WWE's main TV at least that I watched was superstars of wrestling and wrestling challenge on Saturday and Sunday afternoon. It was the syndicated shows. And this was before big names forget about main event level matches being on TV the big names. The biggest names wouldn't even rash. On TV. You wouldn't really see the champion of the world. Wrestling on an episode of WWF superstars, you'd see some of the other talent inaction against preliminary guys against extra talent as it were. But you knew it was a main event show, you knew it was a can't miss show when they announced that next week a star like hulk HOGAN or the ultimate warrior or macho man, Randy savage, or or the legion of doom even would be taking part in a special interview. And that meant that these stars were gonna come out on stage, and they were going to partake in an interview on that platform in front of the audience with mean, gene, Oakland in every time mean Jean delivered. I mean, we all have our favorite moments. It was mean Jean that welcomed. Rick flair and after he won the nineteen ninety two Royal rumble. He had a man put out a cigarette. So RIC flair. Could let the world know that with a tear in his eye. This was the greatest moment in his career. He felt like a fixture in the WWF until eventually left the WWF and went over to WCW where I feel like he became most famous for in that hotline advertising that hotline, but you know, in WCW he also was the guy doing interviews backstage. And the guy doing interviews in front of the audience mean wou. By God, gene. Rick flair it became a it. Just it just rolled off the tongue. It was something. You look forward. You looked forward to every single week. I don't know that anybody in that position will ever be looked at as more of a standard than me, Gino. Caroline. I mean mean Jean is the quintessential. Wrestling interviewer before any of us were doing this before you know, it was it was mean Jean Oakland, and it was him, and it was a microphone, and they said Jean you've got hulk HOGAN, you got macho man, Randy savage, and the stuff that they would throw it mean Jean stuff you'd have to deal with with alternate warrior. Macho man throwing out a bring out every every prop that he could possibly find. My very dear close personal longtime friend hog HOGAN, the things that they would yell at, gene. And you would watch him go through me, gene. Oakland interviews. He would win these things didn't make sense. He would do everything humanly possible to make sense of what was going on. Go to wrestlemanias six I wanted to know wrestlemainia seven and watch me jeans interview. Jake, the snake Roberts, brilliant brilliant. As a as a as a the stuff that he did with Bobby the brain Heenan going back and forth. Of course, what about all the vignettes? He did on Coliseum. Video stuffy did with the Bushwacker. The toys R us commercials. Everything everything I mean mean Jean was as much of an icon as anybody could be and at the end of the day in the role that he was in in backstage interview territory mean Jean Oakland was simply and will always be the greatest of all time. And I don't even think you can argue that. Any did wrestling stuff, you know, up until he was gone up until very very recently. He's been doing stuff with WWE. Whether it's home video stuff for other television stuff. I mean wrestling was his life. And and we were lucky to have gotten to share that life. So rest in peace to mean, Jean Oakland, really sad to see him go. But. I'm glad that that this week and it should be every week. But this week specifically were celebrating the life that was mean Jean Oakland because it should be a celebration. He really when you're the greatest of all time at what you do you deserve to be celebrated. Speaking of the greatest of all time has that for a segue. My guest this week is a young man who thinks he already is the greatest of all time, according to some people Maxwell Jacob Friedman MJ f he's only been wrestling for like three years. That's it. But in that three years has made a tremendous amount of impact if you have any sort of awareness of the independence, specifically the east coast Indies, but he has traveled throughout the country. And I think throughout the world at this point, you know, who MJ f is look him up. If you don't he had the opening match on all in which was a big big deal. I think for. For all in. It was really it was Joey Danila, and it who we've had on the podcast, and it was m j f who really got the opportunity to shine in a pretty major major way. And I've known MJ f for for quite some time. I knew him he went to school at creative. Pro that's taught by curt Hawkins and Pat buck, and he'd be it Russell pro all the time from the time he was a student. And so, you know, I'd watch him. And I don't remember a time thinking like, oh, this kid will get it someday. From the time. I saw him wrestling. I was like this is he's there. He's a wrestler. This. This is not a kid who is learning. This is a person who is a wrestler, and I think MJ f- believed that himself and took that forward, and has just pushed it and pushed it and pushed it to the point where he had the opening match on the pay per view all in this year. He was on the phone call. Steve Austin podcast. He's hell titles in in Ceesay W and M L W all over the place. And now he's in a position where I really think over the next year or two the world's going to be as waster. You know, I see him as a high prospect for an organization like ring of honor who needs to rebuild their their. Their group right now, they're federation as it were their promotion with the elite leaving, you know, m j f would be a great addition their impact to is is figuring out who they are right now, even new Japan. You know, I think having MJ F is an American he'll in new Japan could be tremendous. Let's not pretend that annex t isn't isn't constantly bringing in new people in in a place where that could benefit from having m j f there, and of course, it goes without saying after the guy had the performance of a lifetime in a very short lifetime as he's a very young man at all in that all elite wrestling is not a huge potential win. And the fact that it is about to exist is not a huge potential win for a guy. Like m j f I wanted to start two thousand nineteen with a guest on the podcast that is all about future potential. I want today's show. Oh to be all about looking forward into two thousand nineteen and beyond. And as we look into two thousand nineteen and beyond. You cannot talk about wrestling without talking about m j f so here is on the podcast on not Sam wrestling this week for the very first time, ladies and gentlemen, it's Maxwell Jacob Friedman. Aka m j f the not Sam wrestling interview for the first time, I'm not saying wrestling finally in the not Sam studio. I am blessed. I would say accurate, ladies and gentlemen, somebody who had one of the best two thousand eighteen that a person especially in wrestling could probably have. MJ f is here going on Maxwell. Jacob friedman. Yeah. Bit of an understatement there. But I'll take it. You think? So. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Let's let's go over your two thousand eighteen please. Please all in. That's probably number one church. Sure. Stone-cold podcasts. That's a huge. I don't wanna talk about that. You know, like Steve talk about St. well, you don't wanna put put over no other. Otherwise, I continue to join this list. I mean watching you in MLD w or CDW Scher beyond. I mean everywhere. I mean, literally, literally coast to coast across the border and across the pond, I'm not gonna lie to you. Sam please don't when I was told that I was going to have to do this interview. I wasn't too happy about who told you you can take half too. Well, you don't act like you weren't the one that talked to my publicist we're fully aware of what happened here. And she came to me, she said look. I need you to do this podcast. He's offering us a decent chunk of change for you to make appearance. Don't know a lot of recipes. Don't realize I'm paying for interviews. I wish you wouldn't blow me up like. Lori. Let's face facts here. It's not like it's an awful lot of money. I'm of pretty much doing you a huge solid right now. I appreciate it. But so she she confronted me. She said, I really need to do this podcast. And I said look I've heard this bozo before he walks up to people. He says what's the hap sister, not a real phrase completely Arctic contracts like life-size troll doll. But then she goes, you know, what maybe it's not a good idea because I heard a rumor, and I go I go okay now. Now, I'm intrigued she goes, well, I heard that this man was asked by curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder to lend some money for a toy drive. And I said, please tell me didn't give money to snot nosed brats right now disgust me. And she said no that the issue is that he didn't. That's true. And I said I said, I'll absolutely do this. God cast does who wants to give handouts like that. Right. We're children. Right. They don't deserve it and work for your money. Sam worked for and first of all that's true. Yeah. And second of all for the record. Curt Hawkins in Zack Ryder, they said on their podcast. Hey, we're doing charity thing. Sure. And then after it was over. They were like, hey, we ask Sam, and he didn't give us anything. Like, I got nothing to do with you guys. Look who. Okay. First of all again, not trying to put over. No, no. They don't look the the majors. Butter's? What is that? What it's called matron weather's. Yeah. Pod. Pudgy? It's it's a decent little product. But at the end of the day to to ask somebody to take money out of their pocket. Right. And give it to somebody. You don't even know because what they don't have toys for Christmas. Who cares? That's actually your care. Is it is it is it your problem? Not my problem is certainly not my. So that's why I was excited to come here. Because me, and you were one of the same. Yeah. I've seen that. That's good. But I probably have to start asking you to do a lot of talking for me, you made that I feel like he made that sound better than I could have really I think so I mean, look, I'm always here to defend. But once again that also comes with the fee, and if you'd like to talk to my publicist after by. I kind of blew the whole twenty nineteen not Sam budget on this. I figured yet figured. Yeah. Well, look, I'm Jay do you have a highlight? Are you the type that goes back and looks at a year and goes like, yeah. That was the highlight. Or that's what I reflect upon or do you just constantly move forward? It's hard to take a step back when you have a rocket pack to strapped is you know, what I mean? I know I do just being able to look back with all the intensity. I it's a struggle. It's a struggle for for sure. But when I do have the time, and I don't have much time. Sam as you know, I'm a very busy super-busy. But when I do have the time to look back, I think to myself. Okay. I'm Jay f you are quite possibly scratch that I'm don't be modest. I'm honestly, I am very modest. You are the youngest and fastest rising star professional wrestling today. I mean going into this year two thousand nineteen I it's very reminiscent of when I was just getting out of high school when I played football not that that was all that long ago. But I'm twenty two just just in case, you didn't know. Oh, yeah. Leo rush. The bottom line was was I had a lot of offers and a lot of scholarships thrown my way, and I could have went anywhere. I really wanted to go. I had broken pretty much every single tackling record. There was not just in my school. But in all of Long Island, and I find myself in that exact situation. Now, everybody's asking on on social media, and all these platforms, m j f he's been everywhere. What is he going to do next? There's all these different promotions that are offering him potentially offering contracts. You know, what I'm saying potentially? And there's so many different avenues, I can go and everybody wants to know what I'm gonna do. Yeah. And then the newsflashes it's none of your business. You will most certainly find out because that's just how it works. Right. Just going to see me pop up somewhere, you're gonna go. Okay. But sure, that's the way it worked for all in. I didn't know who you're going to be on all in. And then all of a sudden there, you are on pay per view. That's all I operate. You know, a lot of people. They don't understand the significance. Of mystique. And with mystique comes silence. If I go around, and I go I'm going to do this. And I'm going to do that. And you better believe this is happening next. No, that's not as exciting as when I pop up because I could literally pop up anywhere in any company on any part of the planet. So you're saying what you're known for is not talking. Well, now, hold on a second not talking and not giving away. My next move. I see I move. I move in silence. But once I get to that destination. Yeah. I'm going to be screaming about it at the top of the rooftops. Icy Joyner stand one hundred percent a lot of present a lot of people. They liked to go. This is happening. Nothing one and the other. I don't do that until it happens. And once it does happen. Yeah. I'm gonna talk about it because I'm amazing at what I do. Now. Let me ask you your young man as you just said twenty two years old. It's crazy to be in the position that you're in at your age, you you you trained at the did you train was it create a pro when you train their creative pro wrestling with Pat, buck and curt Hawkins, right? Right. And that would. You're the first big your your the biggest star. I would say I mean. Yeah. To come out of create a pro for short landslide. But rhino where we don't want to disrespect the rest of the people. Of course. Now, I will tell you this creative pa- wrestling if you live in the metropolitan area there is no other option to go as far as a wrestling schools. I would not be in the position. I'm in today without create a pro. And that's a fact granted did I have this God given talent to grab a microphone and meet people not just over the edge of their chair, but to fall off and break their ass. Yes. I already have that. But I needed to understand how to acquire the skill bell to bell. Which now everybody can obviously omit and agree that I'm one of the best most well rounded professional athletes in the sport today. And honestly, you have to give it up to curdle Pat bucket. The Korean pro wrestling academy. Absolutely. I will say till I'm blue in the face. Curt Hawkins is a lousy action figure collector, but a great pro wrestler and trainer. I don't collect children's toys. Brow? Take your. Good for you. Yeah. You keep your mind. You buy things like cars, expensive clothes things. Like that giant houses. I get if I wanna get risky, maybe a penny stock, but really not much right? That's your idea of a wild time. I mean that that's a fun night out. Right. Asking me about you. I see. So you're at how long are you at creative pro before you start realizing that the people that create a pro start realizing like, wow, this is moving really fast for this kid. I mean, probably right away. I mean, I really took to it like a fish takes to water, and how old is you may I started when I was nineteen again, we're talking three years ago. Sure. Sure. I've been wrestling now for three years, and that's like no time based on what you've accomplished, but at the same time, it's a no brainer. I mean, look at me. Listen to me talk. Watch me Russell, right. And that's exactly what happened when I stepped through the hollowed halls of cap. Became very apparent to both of my trainers that God put me on this planet for one particular reason, and it was to become a professional wrestler. So when you're when you're training like that and you start advancing quickly. How do the other students in class react to that? Like when when they stood they go is it an ins- is making insecure. Are they just like cool? We're glad to have somebody good in class. Like, what's the vibe? Like, look jealousy is going to happen organically. Yeah. Did I have a Lambeau or two keyed because I'd tell people I was clearly the best in my class. Maybe you told them that. Look do. I do. I look like a liar to you saying somebody who would ever lie or go by no, I'm very upfront, and very honest. And that's what I would do. So at first it was a bit of a bumpy ride. But once they realized there's really nothing you can do about it, you kind of just grin and bear it. So does that happen where they go? Because when you meet somebody who's I was gonna say with an ego. But I'll say respectfully who's confident in their ability, especially at a young age. I hate that word ego. I just never quite understood. It right. Good. You're good simple. Right. But when you meet somebody who's confident in their abilities at a very young age there is there are people, especially if your peers with that person waiting for them to fall on their face wanting. I don't wanna be around that person almost wanting to sabotage that the issue is I perfect balance. I'm incapable of falling down. That's the issue is that that eventually if the skill starts to be starts to back up all these statements being made, you're kind of screwed. No. Because there's always there. Sure. There's always gonna. People. And I think that's where ego kicks in is the people that show up and they start doing all the talking. But they don't have perfect balance. And they do fall on the face. And I'm sure you've seen that before. It's sad. It's sad. Because you don't relate to that. And I never could. Right. I mean, I was literally born and bred just to be better than everyone else. And that's not like that's not me like attacking you the viewer or the listener. It's just straight fact, I see I see. So you played football in high school. Yes. I did. Did you have did you think that you were going to do that professionally? What occurred was I would been offered all these pretty much full rides. I had went to a school which legally I cannot name. Why not well, unfortunately, what had occurred was I had went to the coach. And I said this isn't for me. And he he well we're thinking about starting you as a freshman. That's a very big deal. Don't you understand an internally? I knew what I had to do. And what I had to do is professional wrestling because I grew up watching and idolizing guys like Rick flair Roddy, piper Tully Blanchard. Hot stuff, Eddie Gilbert. The list goes. On and on which is by the way, an amazing list for somebody your age. Sure absolutely need much twenty two year olds. And not sitting there with hot stuff. Eddie, Gilbert tapes. Well, we'll get to the issue with people of my generation later on. Oh, good. Good. And what what occurred was the coach wasn't too happy. So he said, well, we can't allow that. And in walked a six foot seven most likely offensive line linemen. Let's just call him, Sal, because obviously I can't legally say his name, and he followed me around everywhere. And eventually what it come to was I had to wait at like the very late. We're talking in incredibly late. You finally went to sleep any followed me for two days straight wherever I went bathroom locker room. If I was going to go hang out with a girl. Follow me everywhere. So I just waited I got in my car, and I drove all the way home got out of my car. I looked at both of my parents. And I said, hey. I'm going to be a professional wrestler, obviously, both their responses as Jewish parents wasn't. Oh, great. Right tastic, right because 'cause you're not going to them because the pitch of the beauty of football is that you don't have to convince your parents. I'm going to be a pro football player you're going I'm going to play football. But in their mind, you're getting a free education education precisely so now I was trading getting a free education. According to my mother to get hit in the head with steel chair. Right. Barb wire what have you? But I think it became very apparent to them. Just like a king became very apparent anybody else who is in my life. When it started training that they had nothing to worry about because you're taking very very seriously from the jump. Absolutely. Thank you. Listen, and you had to write because to to. You know, there's that thing about like having nothing to lose is not always a great thing. Like when when you've gotten yourself to the point where you have a lot to lose in the sense that you've your entire pride to lose just made. Here's what happens if you fail at wrestling. You've made the stupidest decision in your life. If you don't fail at wrestling. You've got this amazing story of knowing that you were bred to succeed absolute. So you've got no choice but to succeed, otherwise, you're a fool. Well, let's not like act that I'm like, some blue collar schmuck that doesn't have money in the in the back doesn't case. This doesn't all go. Good go. Right. Okay. But you could say I'm gonna American hero. You can say I'm living with American dream and following it on American hero with the trust fund. Absolutely. You know what? I couldn't put it better myself San liking you. I'm like good. You're not an attractive, man. Okay. You by any means. But I like you. Yeah. We didn't need to for sure go there. But but so how far into training? Did you feel like I'm ready to start the second because really? There are people who spent three years training before they should have any real matches of know, which is very accurate. There are a lot of guys that I have come come around on the independent level. Even when I do TV where they said, we didn't even have our first match until we were two years three years in. I had my first match, and I was three months in. And it was amazing. Great match. Oh, dude. It was honestly if we want to get serious. I'll look in this Cameron say my first match is probably better than most people's like who two hundred who is the match with. I was in a tag team match was me. And at my at the time, I was tagging with a guy by the name of bear Bronson. Okay. And we were tagging against a to students who quit because that's what happens in wrestling. And it was a great match. And then like two months went by and they were just like wrestling card, and they quit with that. But that's evidence that it's not like you were in this match with somebody that was able to carry you through all very very, very new students. Wow. Which is that to me is really intelligent by Hawkins and pack because it okay? If you throw somebody in there with somebody who's this amazing talent like myself, and they're just. I'm not gonna say helping you succeed because at the end of the day. We're all trying to win. We're all trying to make money, of course. But still you might be taking it easier on them because you know, they're new to the sport. And you're obviously, you're looking to beat them, but you're not looking to murder them. But when you throw somebody in into the trenches into the big deep blue without you know, what the heck is that thing called. I've I is that what it's called water safety net. No, you put on this big jacket thing. Look, I'm not a scuba diver. Remember last professional broadcast, honestly Sam you, and I both I've never gone scuba diving there for what I don't get. You have hardly onto skiing and lose that's your. That's another thing. You liked that? You like winter sports is absolutely. Yeah. But back to the topic at hand. Yeah. When you throw somebody in that scenario, they only have two options, you know, you can swim swim elegantly or you could drown and die. And I swam like an Olympic gold medalist. Grano and some people just don't do that when they dive deep in right? You just happen to be able to have that skill hundred percent. So when do you start leaving training and going, okay, I'm just I'm a fulltime wrestler now. So it was it was interesting for me year one while I did. Well, a lot of stuff did happen in my first year of wrestling. It was a lot of me getting a in my car and driving to these shows, which is which is a joke because I didn't want to offend anybody. So I didn't take my travel air jet. I just got in these cars drove to these shows, and I showed face, and I would I would help around as much possibly could granted. I would hold a broom. And like pretend I was sweeping. But you're not gonna to the naked eye. Like, I'm doing something. Sam Bradford manual labor Jesus Christ. No. It's not where you come from. No, right. No, right. Does it look like I am saying no tastic pulled up in your beamer? I mean, it was amazing. What would happen is they'd give me an opportunity, and I would go in there, and I would kill it. And then they'd say, okay, we're gonna use this guy on a regular basis that happened in a ton of different promotions in the northeast, and then it floated over to the midwest. And now, it's pretty much voted over everywhere. Right. So it was it was just the reputation built. Very quickly. Yes. Wow. And at what point did your parents start to go? Okay. Because it's one thing for parents to say, he's good at this. He's taking it seriously. It's another thing for parents to go. He can make a living doing this just as a life that he could do have they gotten there yet. We'll now I am making a living off of it. Right. So now, they're now they don't have issue with it at all, right? They're completely on board. Which is pretty pretty crazy. I mean, I'd have to give shout out to my parents. They they raised an amazing kid, obviously radishes thinking, but also the the support that I have a lot of people. And again, this is something that jealousy might come behind a lot of people don't have that support system. A lot of people don't have two parents that are that look where they hesitant. Absolutely. I think anybody's parents would have been especially somebody who grew up the way I did. But they're now backing me Andrea and ten percent. They want to see me succeed. And they love the fact that I'm loving what I'm doing, and it's really cool to have that support system. Yeah. And I would imagine seeing you on pay per view was kind of. Well, my my parents were in the building they were. Yes. And phil. When when they see you doing that is clearly they haven't seen you because you haven't done anything on that scale. Sure. But when you're able tell me about that scale when you go out there, you know, you've had all this training as it were by training. I don't mean school. I mean, all the matches that you've had, but they've all had crowds of various sizes, but nothing remotely comparable to ten thousand. Right. Your tenth out. What would you say is your biggest crowd you perform in front of before ten thousand? Oh, man. I don't I mean, I had done a genetic spring break. And I had a why? I'm sure he thousand three okay? Maybe like the some wrestle pro shows that legitimately if you pack out that route way rec centers a lot of people's I done big shows. But to that magnitude, it was interesting sitting the locker room with guys who've been wrestling ten twelve fifteen years. Yeah. At all in and they were saying holy trip. People. And I'm sitting there like, okay? So you weren't at you didn't really think about it. I was I didn't I don't know if I was trying not to think about it. All I was concerned with was showing the world who J F is. And what I'm Jeff's all about now today at all in are they talking to you about where cameras are playing to this camera in that camera. Like is that something you're aware of I had one discussion. And it was with Cody Rhodes. And I had walked up to him. This was before the match. I said is there anything you would like for me specifically. And he said, I brought you here for a reason. And that was the conversation. He said just stick to the amount of time. That is allotted. If you go over the time, I don't care. I'll have the ring. You know what I mean? Right. Right. But that was those speech I was giving antibody right? And after matches over I walk up to Cody I go, did you see it? Stop me. Getting goes brought to you for a reason. So I was like, okay. And it's it's crazy that somebody like him and somebody like the bucks were eight we're willing to give me that opportunity. And and be had that trust in me, considering I've only been doing this for three years, which is telling, but it's also telling of their character, right and them as human beings that opportunity mental lot to me, but that opportunity was earned, and I think that a lot of people might struggle with that. But I was like killing I've I've literally wrestled nearly every single top tier independent promotion in the world US now UK, Canada, I've been all over the place, but like the most goosebumps ever had because the second my music, it my match wasn't announcing the second my music hit and the second they showed the Burberry Tron with m j f on it. They rain down booze. Right. Rein them down. They knew damn well who I was. So that's what I was watching. And we did a Poche is watching Pappa. Can we were watching it home? And we I pointed out to Pat or Pat will whatever we agreed that. What was great about that is that even three years in you're able to communicate to not just the audience some of whom new use some of you did not know who you are. But the audience at home, and I would assume the audience at home a lot in know your, but immediately, we know who's the good guy who's the bad guy. What's the story being told like, we know don't think I'm a bad guy Sam? But I don't think so either. But, but we understood why there was a an attraction to booing you. Absolutely. And that was my thing. I was like what is going to happen. When my music plays. Right. They're gonna know. And there was a rain abused before. I go through the curtain and once I went through the curtain for the people who might not have been aware. I got them to understand what our is out real quick right rear. Real quick. And that's something I've always took great pride in and back to the generational thing. I think there's this weird struggle now where I can I can if you walk up to me, and you say, I'm Jeff what are you all about? I'm going to say, you know, what I'm all about them all about being better than you. That's it. If I walk up to somebody in my age group, my demographic, Mike experience level, and I say, what are you all about? They're not going to have an answer. They don't know who they are yet, which you know, what cool. You know? It's wrestling is supposed to be a carnival act. You're supposed to have every single flavor of ice cream, and it's awesome. But if every single match if every single match is super kicks, which by the way, why are you doing that? Because the young bucks ready to another doing a better than you. Right. If every single matches a Canadian destroyer, why are you doing that PD Williams is mardi doing, you know, if every single match is cutters. You know? I've heard Randy Orton those pretty good cutter. I don't know if you've heard of the guy. He's right. It's it gets born. Right. And that's why it has almost like you're cheering for the move. Right. Like when when a young guy throws a super kick. It's almost like if you're chairing your cheering for the young bucks. Sure. When a young guy throws a cutter, you're cheering for the Randy Orton smooth. But shop is thrown what do you hear? Woo. You hear woo, right? You don't hear go guy who just through that job? Right. You hear? Woo, right. You need. And I don't understand why nobody understands this. I'm one of a kind. I'm Jim you. I'm not trying to be anybody. And I think everybody should try to patent or self after that everybody should be their self turned up to one hundred. I hate to quote, Stephen. I hate Stephen. But that is a quote he said, and it's completely accurate to me. And that is something I pride myself in. I'm not going out there to entertain you allow me to make that very clear while I don't care what you think. Wow. I I really don't care. All I care about is winning and making my money. I'm not going out there to be circus. Oh, les? I'm going out there to win a match. Right. And that's what I loved about guys. Like, I mentioned earlier piper flair Tully. I mean, I I can go on and on Chris Candido. There's so many people have influenced me. So when did you start watching wrestling Bowman the the first match in full I ever saw the well the first blip. I saw was it was like a smackdown show. I think in I saw like Cain kind of. And this is me trying to remember I was like six or seven, right? But then after that, I was so unanswered by my uncle had put it on the TV when we when we were over his house for dinner, Alan Weisman. How you doing? And I said I grabbed him, and I'm I'm a small, you know, young man at this point. I grabbed him I said what was that? Because I want more of it. And he said that's wrestling. And I said, and I ran up to my dad, and I said we got to go to Hollywood video like right now. My dad was like we're kind of eating here. Hold us went off. Okay. Maxwell. I was like whatever dad, and then I went off. I had my caviar, and my I'm not going to say what else I had. I don't want to offend everybody. With what I'm eating, but you did have caviar. And some steak, you know, what should I just list off everything that garlic, mashed science, really solid cream spinach. And or and this is just an average night. I mean, yeah. Okay. Come on. It's impressive. Yeah. That's how the Friedman's do it. Right. And the next day my dad, drove me in a Hollywood video I picked up this DVD. And there was the scary looking zombie man on the cover of it, which I would later turn out to be the undertaker. I had no idea who it was at least. It wasn't easy ws ambi-. Sure that very well could have been him very famous that guy. Yeah. Almost some might say almost as famous as the undertake, I think, so I've got all the TV's CW zombie on the cover there you go. Yeah. Man of many matches. So I pop in this little DVD, distaste. And I'm like, okay. I look at the back. There's a menu and it says homeless oh match I go that sounds interesting. So the first match ever watched in full was undertaken versus mankind in the hell in the cell. So right off the bat. I'm like. This is the most insane thing I've ever seen. Right. Both. These men are crazy, by the way for a guy that would end up wrestling in CW. Sure. Sure. Right. Absolutely. And honestly, I remember going into my mattress joy in LA and looking at that top because we had pretty much fallen off off the top of the building. I forget how you would even phrase this you have the bottom floor, and it was called the second floor. Whatever they got balcony balcony. Exactly. Yeah. And I looked down. I said I'm going to new Jack position. I said I'm going to throw George hill off this balcony because I hate him and his brains fried and I want him dead. Right. And he's been in here in the studio, by the way, he sent. And that your I'm sorry, you should probably clean this chair. Okay. But unfortunately, didn't work out that way, we both fell down at the same time. Which is you know, I came out on skates. Thank god. And I won the match. But you know, these there's obviously things in wrestling that you see at a young age that is going to make you like a Namur by it. And that that match it totally hooked me in. And then after that, I I knew I was going to be a fan for life. And the moment I knew I wanted to be a professional wrestler. I was at Madison Square Garden, it was the very first elimination chamber survivor series. Yeah. The elimination survivor. What year that was? I'd like to say two thousand. It was the is the first half of the first decade of the two thousand four and two thousand three or two. I just remember. Shawn Michaels with the little Dutch boy haircut. Yes, tights. Yes. Hard forget. Yes. And he wins the match with cowboy boots, right, dude? It's the pose. And I looked to my left and look to my right? And everybody's standing and everybody's clapping. And everybody's freaking out. And I remember tugging my dad, and I look at them. I'm gonna go I'm to do that. And he laughed. He was okay. I like all right. And I knew deep down after that. I was like I can do that. I wanna be able to make everyone in a room stare at me. And not wanna look at anything else in on like everybody else on the scene today. You'll see matches people beyond their phones that Brian happened during the day of match. Right. It just won't happen. Right. And that's something I take pride and that's interesting because about probably eight years before that survivor series. Probably. Yeah. Probably survivor series two thousand two's, maybe six years before that it's nineteen ninety six. I was there watching Shawn Michaels lose the W championship to psycho said. Yep. But I was sitting next to my dad dressed head to toe his gold dust, and my dad was just sitting there going like, I don't I don't know. What am I doing? What am I what am I doing rest assured, my incredibly affluent father had no idea what he was doing? So you are not alone. You're not alone. We got so much more with 'em J F to get to. But I need to tell you about seatgeek. You guys hear about seatgeek all the time here on not Sam wrestling, one of my absolute favorite sponsors. Because what they do applies to all of us. They make it easier for us to see the things that we want to see you all want to go to the wrestling shows. You wanna see guys like m j f live in in the flesh you want to go to an XT Phoenix. And actually take over Phoenix. You want to go to the Royal rumble? You want to go to all of these shows, but finding tickets online is next to impossible. You never know if they're real you never know where they are. You never know if you're getting the best deal. 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I was in this great abyss of YouTube which happens to everybody. Yeah. And I'm watching, you know, stuff at the time stuff at the time and then out of nowhere. I I see like this this photograph of a dude in a kilt, and he's sitting down on a couch and his feet are up on the stool, and I'm like who is that guy. And I clicked on it. And this is I'm sorry. I don't go ahead. This guy's chewing gum, and he's being incredibly ridiculously rude. And there's a British guy next to him. And he keeps. To talk talk to him. And he's shot up. You know? And there's another guy who seems like it might be as boss, and he's trying to talk to him. He's telling the other guy it's about it was all about him. And I wanted I literally I was like oh my God. This is getting me riled up. Right. Like, I'm gonna punch this guy on the face. Right. And I like that feeling it's awesome. Right. It's awesome. Right. And I was like I want to do that. I want it 'cause you recognized immediately. You went one step beyond your feeling of. I want to punch this guy in the face to own my God that guy just did something that makes me want to punch him in the face xactly right there. Then that's a job. That's that's the thing that that's not just a job. That's my high right people if they right. You know, if you want to do your thing man, do whatever whatever gets you go and do your thing. You know, it gets me going. I love when I hear stories. First of all I've had fans swing on. Which is hysterical because you're all very small and frail compared to me, but I've had fan swing on fashionable wrestling. But also, I love the idea that there's a guy come into the show and he's looking. And his friend. He's going this. Stuff's fake. I don't care about this. This is BS. Sitting down. He doesn't care about any matches on his phone entire night. And then I come out, and I got grabbed microphone. And this guy wants to kill me. Now, this is real to him now as it should be because I'm no joke. I'm not fake, I'm genuine. Nobody's more clearly than me. Very clearly. Yeah. And this guy wants to hit me so bad, and he goes home he gets in his car. He gets in his bed, and he's going I to go to that show again. And I want to see this guy get beat so bad. And then he goes again, and he tells his friend all these other guys are be 'Seeing that guy that guy's legit. And I want that guy. Deb. That that is what I love about professional wrestling. And I and I wish more people love member. I watched Memphis global force and Awa and like, that's what I watch off the network like the WB product right now is like. Anyone who sits on this chair, and looks you and is like WWE, okay to it's it's it's right now currently present day. That's the top product. Yeah. One hundred percent right hundred percent. So, but for me, I always always always prefer just watching the old school old school school Ryan school, which is interesting because like I get that for me and people of my generation because part of it is in his style jet. It's like this is what we grew up with. So I'm gonna turn on Tuesday night titans. Because I remember when I was a little kid Tuesday night titans was on. But for you who Tuesday night tines has been off the air over ten years before you're even born the fact that you go back, and you're like, no, this is my stuff to kind of amazing. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of amazing guys. I guess what do you expect? I guess so so you do, you know? Why you were the guy that the guys at all in selected other than the fact that you're very very good. I mean, just just the idea that like most most of the people at all in you could go we'll either that's somebody that they is part of this thing. Right. Somebody that they work with somebody that creatively. They collaborate with they wrestle with whatever. Or it's one of the best non WWE wrestlers in the world. Clearly, they're going to be at all in. And you're the one who's like you get the one spot for a young guy. Right. I mean, there wasn't any other. There was it was me. And I guess you can count Marco if you count that. Sure shirt. But Marco, even like, we know I think, you know, what Marco was like you had is match with Giannetta at now this show, and it was like, whoa. Who's this? Who's this guy that looks like a little kid? That's Maine's who's this frail little boy. Right. Everybody wanted to know the fray, a little boy, exactly. Yes. Exactly. A little boys legs broken while. That's what happened. Was a friend Marco if you're listening to this don't get hot. It's the truth. You're very tiny. Okay. But while he's invited to respond in any. I would love him to him too. I I wrestled Marco before he got injured actually. Yeah. I absolutely beat him to did you mop the floor with them. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh god. He's he's an infant. I see this is he's a smart little boy. I see I guess that'll do it. If he came out through the curtain with a lollipop, you would be confused, and you would go whose child is this. That's true. That's marco. That's true. But to answer your question, right? I was at a show in Canada. The honestly the number one promotion in Canada, in my opinion is alpha one. Okay. And I was at that show and Cody Rhodes is on a show, and I suppose Cody must have watched my match and after that. He had just stayed in touch with me randomly or sporadically and one day through DM on Twitter of all things. Gopher. He was like, hey, are you busy on this date? Like looking at the calendar going like oh that day. I got a lot of things going on Coney. Don't know. I know I'm I'm of ale. Yeah. And. Yeah, that that's how it went down, Cody. And then Cody after the show on JR's podcasts, which also meant a lot to me because he has been a mentor to me on the podcast. He said if there was one person that impressed me, the most it was m j f and that meant the world to me. I mean, I'm sure I'm sure I impress pretty much everybody else. But I was impressed. I don't really care about everybody else's opinion. There's a handful of people's opinions I care about he's one right? And that meant a lot and it also meant a lot debt before the show even happened. He said I reminded him of a younger him on one of those the all elite videos. Cody, Cody went off he had his own thing was what was code USA doing with with David Ghana right that. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I was like all right here we go and ever since then it was honestly it was crazy before that with the bookings. But after that, it was totally gangbusters. So when you start doing CW? You pretty early in your career. Yes. Did you ever? I mean, first of all how familiar were you would death match wrestling. Because for me, I'm a teenager in late nineties early to early two thousands. I mean, I had the first three CDW VHS tapes from the website. I watched all the Japanese stuff. So I grew up when kind of death match wrestling got that boom. Sure. How familiar with it were you? I hated it. You did hated death match russula her I especially being a fan of the old school, right? It. It's disgusting to me. I still hate it. The undertaker and mankind match to me was different. There was a story truly being told this man had to overcome every single on imaginable. And he still kept getting up to his feet by some grace of God, he was a madman. Right. But I could comprehend everything that was going on, and I could sink my teeth into it. And. Even made a guy like me as despicable as I am kinda rooting for right mankind. Right for them a little bit not going to say more than undertaker because I do enjoy watching people get beat up, but especially bigger thicker, people like that. Oh my God. Yeah. But it becomes impossible to notch here for this. Right. But a lot a lot of stuff I've seen from death match wrestling and not all of it. There are some people have mastered that craft chair. But unfortunately, it put a sour taste in my mouth before. I got involved in wrestling because it would just be guys hitting each other over the head with light tubes for like, no, no earthly reason tombstones off the top of the ladder through like three tables on fire, and I'm just like. Right. And I mean, and you saw that a lot in the wake of ws X PW shows up, and then people start going like what if we just take the hardest of hardcore that he CW hadn't just do it every show. Exactly, you can't. And I still hate CW CDW the fact that I had to hold that title. I only came there because I wanted to help them they needed fixing. I see the place was in complete turmoil. Right. I I I remember walking up to triple ten day hide. And I said I said look Larry it God this company's gross everyone in here looks like they have hep, and we need to clean this place up a little bit. How about we put somebody on your roster that when you put on a poster people aren't going to gag? Oh, you know, that was the pitch that was that was that's all I needed to say and DJ's responsible yet that makes a lot of sense. And it was honestly after that. That's that is how I got associated with CDW. I was never truly a big fan of the product. I see I'm a fan of me when I was in the product you like that, obviously. Right. Yeah. Are there any what was what was the most brutal thing that you did over there? Was it the genetic match, and I they they corner me and offered me. Money that nobody would ever say no to to do Caja death. And I was about to do Caja death against Ricky Shayne page guy who I hate, but I will give credit to and say he might be one of the most underrated independent wrestlers on the scene going today. But you don't like him. No, no. He's fat. Right. But is okay, right wrestling. But he's fat. I see. But what occurred was I had wrestled a match with same mcallen at eight w and I brought my elbow. So I could not do that matchup. Thank god. You're not you don't sit there going like, I don't know rats. You know, what I mean, you know, you don't go cage of death. I hope I rotate back there because that's the one thing in my career that I didn't get to do. Yeah. And as as I was in a brace at home watching cage of death. It was manse Warner versus Ricky Shayne page. I was sipping on wine just smile in year to year because I was not involved, but I got to enjoy it. And I can assure you the matchup that manse Warner and Ricky Shayne page at at cage of death was unsure fans. Would appreciate that. When more than what they would have got for me because what you would have got from me was calculated intelligent decisions. If somebody was running at me with barbed wire. I would move out of the way, right? If somebody set up glass in a corner, I would kick it and break it if somebody's breaking it with your. What an idiot. To the top of the cage and tried to jump on me. What would what would I do Sam row at the way? Yes, you're you're much smarter than you look out of the way. So I just thought this strategy of just somebody sets up the glass, you just break. I never understood stand up kick the glass stop. It's just stop it out. Right now what idiot, right and makes way more sense. But I digress. Falling through it. No. At least you go in with strategy at least you're going strategy. So when. Do you have any twenty nine thousand nine goals? Do you sit there and go? Well, we look at the landscape, and I would say ring Avante her is in a space, where they're rebuilding in the sense that you know, the elite in the boat club or are not going to be there anymore. You're looking at impact wrestling, that's completely rebranding themselves. And I think still in that process of figuring out who and what they are in. I think a good way. Sure, obviously all elite wrestling bus onto the scene this week. And then there's always, oh, I don't know annex t in WWE sure doing what they do pretty well still heard of him. So here's my thing. I feel like the prettiest girl the ball. Right. You also have have a unique opportunity. Right. I it feels to me like now more so than ever it's up to me. Even though there's not like the big WWE or WCW bubble, blah. Smaller organizations are signing people to exclusive deals whether it's fully. The exclusive or just exclusive in the states, or whatever it is. There's a lot more exclusivity going on in promotions. And never before which isn't necessarily a good thing in the sense that you right now get to go and wrestle all over the place right here and get better every time and maybe being locked down to a single organization wouldn't be the best thing to do at twenty two. Right. You have no idea what I'm going to do. But as I said every day, I feel like the prettiest girl the ball as as I ascend into the early stages of two thousand nineteen all of these companies are very much so interested in certain people, I see, and I'm never going to as I said, I'm a man who works who walks around like a ninja silently until a deal is done and United States. I'll be screaming at the rooftop. But I'm not saying anything, right? So if I asked you sure, do you know, whether or not you're even on WWE's radar. You wouldn't tell me, I don't know. I have no idea. Right. I have no idea if I'm on impacts rate. I have no idea from unreal honors radar. Right. I have no idea. And that's the thing is you guys get to have the blast in the fun of all time of watching a prodigy in two thousand nineteen which he going what's he doing? Where's he going to do next? What is he going to do next? It's exciting time. It is an exciting time. It's very exciting. And I'm not the only guy that's in the in the position that I'm in. There are plenty. There are plenty of other. Look, I'm not going to say there's anybody that is talented Zion. But there are other guys on the independent level right now that are in a very similar position who is your favorite opponent to you have had the pleasure of sharing the squared circle. With or the displeasure. We'll have never really enjoyed wrestling any of these professional wrestlers because a lot of them aren't exactly would you wanna touch some of these guys Samling was let's face the fed on when that means. That's why I brought this one hundred percent, and I respect that. I mean, you also broadcasts because you're a very small, man. But who ya I mean that would be the other issues have I try to touch them. I get hurt. Absolutely. So. There are plenty of names that come to my mind people that made me look human in the squared circle. John what when I say human, meaning not like a God. Because ninety nine point nine percent of the time when somebody is in a ring with me, it's like trying new. Let me I'm trying to think of a good example here have you ever tried to lift five hundred and fifty eight pounds of sheer weight off the ground while singing the pledge of allegiance backwards. And jumping up and down have. I know I haven't done. Okay. That's because it's almost physically impossible sounds dreamily different very difficult. That's what it's like wrestling me. However, whoa. You're the five hundred fifty eight pound on that seeing to obstacle. Wow. However, there are people who have made me look human. And when I say that there are people who have made me, look, you know, you so you get right. I'm sure the less listener gets or maybe they don't Mike over their head because I'm assuming that most of the people are listening to this aren't exactly all that breath again. Now, your problem. Now, my problem, not my problem. No, I'm paying for their education. Now, my problem. No, you're not you've made it as clear as you can. I would have to name guys such as unfortunately, I'd have to name Joe L, even though that guy is so fried. Joe Genoa a guy by the name of VS k Alex Reynolds, Ricky Shayne page Ethan page Jimmy havoc Sammy Callahan. I mean, I it's it really is a struggle for me to try to pick out names in the very small category of people that almost looked equal to me. Right. But those are the names that pop up in the front of my head. And then there are also names of people that I watched I think talented Stokely Hathaway. I don't know if you're aware, of course, I've never wrestled him. I never would Russell them. We're BFF's. He became me. Absolutely. I'm sorry. Do you feel like I shouldn't have Stokely out the way as my friend. What are you know? I don't know Stokely that. Well, okay. Most people don't. But you know, who does probably this guy. Yeah. That's what I thought. He's a tremendous talent. There's so many people that have stepped in the ring with that. I had a lot of Matt cross as well. Yeah. Hundred percent. Of course, do you have anybody looking forward that you're like that's a match that I wanna have just whether it's to prove to yourself whether it's to prove to other people, whether you just think it would be a great competition to display to the world. Cody Rhodes, you'd like to have a Cody Rhodes, I would like to wrestle Cody Rhodes and I- I- Cody Rhodes, I might not be his best friend as my best friend. Let me to make that very clear because the opportunity that he he got hit in. But I would I I see that being a match up that would Kwait to a dusty flair. Quite a state in the coming years. And I think somebody would be able to take a step back looking at or or or tally dusty. I mean, there's a lot of different. But I personally feel that match. It would be absolutely incredible. No, I would do fair square. There'd be I wouldn't be up. Any, you know, there'd be no tricks on my sleeve. I wouldn't be thrown eye pokes. I wouldn't be low respect for that. It'd be clean match. Right. It'd be a clean match. She and it would be fair straight down the middle. Just to see who is the better, man. That's all that's all. And I think that'd be a very interesting match for people to watch. Now, you have an and I'll tell you how I got here. Of course, you know, who is the last person on this podcast that I said who would you want to compete with? And they said Cody Rhodes was David Arquette. Sure, David Arquette, David are kept bought me a Burberry scarf. He did did you know that? No, I didn't know tweeted about it. David arquette. He hit me up. He said, hey, I'm a huge fan. I responded everybody is what do you want? Right. And he said I'd like to buy you a Burberry scarf. All in. And I said, yeah. Man, whatever. Warren. I wore the David Arquette Burberry scarf out credit matchup. Yes, that's incredible. But he reminded me of Nick gage, who I believe you also you have a match up coming with Nick. And I have to ask you is this something that weighs on you. Does it because to me, you know, like you said, I'm not a physically imposing, man. I'm not somebody this isn't my forte. But of all the people that I would want to be in a wrestling ring with if feels like Nick gage would be bottom of the list. Nick gage is a ex-con a jailbird and scumbag, and I think anybody the way I was afraid because he was in jersey all pro I was afraid of Nick gage before he went to jail less. There's no reason to be afraid of somebody who has about as many teeth as they do brain cells when I walk in to the inspire pro wrestling event, we're this is occurring by the way. Ladies and gentlemen, in Texas. I can assure you I already have a game plan we discussed it. If he tries to hit me with a chair. I'm going to move out of. The way you void the chair. If he sets up a table and puts me on top of it. I'm gonna get off the table. If he sets up a pain glass, I'm gonna stop what type of offense though. Are we thinking there's there's the defense what type of offense? Are we thinking Sam? Yeah. A good offense is a great defense even staffer is. Yes, they say that in sports. You're welcome. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it when you break enough panes of glass with your foot he can't professionally wrestle. I mean, he he's just a done match guy. I your are you really going to look at me and tell me Nick gage, proficient as a professional wrestler as Maxwell Jacob Friedman. I'm not getting involved in all that. I'm sorry. I don't I mean again, I'm because I'm not a professional wrestler and trainer Sam Knicks not here. Just to clarify. This is broadcast everywhere. You know, I don't need to be involved in all that understand their this is this is between you and Nick gage. I'm I'm happy as long as the people are happy to put it lightly. I look forward to bringing the American do Justice system to Nick. Gauge wants more judicial system is that not what I said, you said judicial system. However, I want to pronounce something right way to did you that was rude. I watch yourself. I watch yourself. I apologize. But you on it. Yeah. You wanna bring down the long arm of the law on Nick gage? Absolutely. Okay. Well, good luck with that. I think you if anybody can do it. I don't see why not you hundred percent and J F. Is there anything that? You would like to alert the people to what I would like to alert the people is my two thousand eighteen was absolutely tremendous. It's hard to argue, you know, yet. And like I said we had this conversation in the beginning of this conversation about ego and confidence, and I would love to sit there because of how confidently say that go it wasn't that. Great. But it was sure, you know, no matter whether whether anybody likes you or not you had a great twenty eighteen nothing you can say about it. But however, if you think two thousand eighteen was interesting, I do just you wait. Just you wait for two thousand nineteen because I am going to blow the roof off of every single idea that people have behind experience levels in age. I am going to change the game. I appreciate what people prior to me of done in my age bracket. However, I am going to make people forget how long have been wrestling because they're going to go. This person is uncompetitive to anybody who has ever stepped foot in our sport. That is what my two thousand nineteen is going to be thank God lofty goals, by the way, when I work question when you get injured, right? And you miss cage death. You know, the whole thing your first major injury in wrestling was it. I I had a knee issue. I I must my NIA one time. Did it take you out of wrestling for a little bit? But it wasn't wild. It was nothing crazy. Do those injuries? When it's early in your career. I feel like those are the moments where realization starts to sit in those are the those are the moments where I think some people go like, you know, what I can't I can't do this. This isn't going to be the first one of these will buy what are the thoughts when you're young? You got no guarantees you just starting to build a little momentum. And you get taken out. We started happened to Joey genitalia was on eighty. He was also there for all in as he was. He was doing all kinds of stuff us getting ready for his next big show. Oh that had his name all over it. He was on not Sam wrestling. And then boom he's out for year. What does it do mentally like, how do you? How do you get yourself through an injury? When you're at the level that you're at for me what I would say personally and professionally when when it happens, it sucks. There's literally there's no other way to describe it. Because not not only do. I love money. I love wrestling. Right. But without wrestling. I don't get what Sam money. Exactly. Right. Both things. Go away. It's either both or neither. Yes, right. Luckily, as we said, I got money to blow right? There's plenty of money, but you like to earn more. Yeah. Who doesn't who doesn't like getting more money? Right. But to top all that off. It is frustrating frustrating sitting back and watching everything happened while you're gone. I was only gone for like four or five weeks, but still it gets annoying. But luckily, what I can say that me and a guy like Jamila to I'll give I'll give the devil his due. We both are capable. At getting people's attention outside of the realm of bell to bell. I am capable of taking to social media. I am capable of making a video of just this me. And you talking a podcast an interview. And and I'm able to make sure that nobody forgets who I am or my name. So I wasn't nervous. I was just pissed off. Right for another person. Who might not have the same capabilities, which nobody really does is I do with a microphone in front of my mouth. I would have been shitting bricks, right? Because the way, you know, some of these guys get over and get their fan base is by moves which again, I'm not knocking it we need different flavors ice cream. But I don't have to worry about stuff when I get injured because I always can put a microphone front of my mouth. It's just good to be you man, dude. You have no idea. I got. And I wish I did. Sometimes I have no one ever will though. Look at me make eye contact. Okay. You will never know what it's like to be me ever, bro. Arm thirty five. I haven't gotten there yet. Good. Okay. It's not going to happen. That were me. I'm making eye contact with you because I wanna make it very apparent. Okay. You will never right ever. Right. Being the same position. I'm in ever. You are going to die knowing that. Right. Do you understand that? And do you mean, I might go better or you're just saying always less than? Always less than me. Okay. Now, I'm gonna look at the viewer. Okay. Was well, can you can we can we own this camera? Thank you. Yeah. Here you go. Here we go go for it. You never. Yeah. Ever attain. These same exact lofty goals that I have right at the tender age of twenty two Jesus ever. I don't care if you're thirty forty fifty or about to break a hundred good luck because you are going to go into the grave knowing that my name is Maxwell Jacob Friedman. And I'm better than you. And you know, it sucks. Thank you for joining us MJ. Absolutely. It's been it's been uplifting to Santa leaf. That's what I did. All right. But I appreciate it. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Of course. We just shook hand, ladies and gentlemen, that's how Boeing doing. Well, we'll get she don't think of it. All right. All right here is Sam Roberts. What a great interview with MJ f you know, we're going to have guests like that. I don't know if it'll be m j f exactly, but we're going to have guests. We're going to have all kinds of stuff going on in Phoenix on January twenty fifth the Friday night before the Royal rumble CV live copper blues. Live in Phoenix, Arizona, make sure that you're there. Seven thirty PM Friday, January twenty fifth not Sam wrestling live. Get your tickets now, just a Google live, Phoenix and the place. Oh, come right up. You can see him there. January twenty fifth. Get those tickets now. M j f was great in J F is the perfect guest to have on today. Because today's all about looking forward, you know, last week on the show, we ranked the top ten moments of twenty eighteen and the reason I like to do that is because we start twenty nine thousand nine with a clean slate so much going on even in the first three days. Of twenty nine thousand nine it's unbelievable. What's happening in this world of wrestling within the WWE outside of the WWE within the United States outside of the United States. I mean think about everything that's going on right now you've got to shake up happening on Ron smackdown. You got the Royal rumble around the corner. Wrestle kingdom is this week. All elite wrestling is happening. It's actually happening. The announcement has been made wrestling journalists are arguing with each other on Twitter, Vince Russo and Bruce Prichard or fighting with each other over who's Aligarh. It's an amazing time to be a wrestling fan and watch the circus happening for all of us all of us. It's just entertainment as far as the I can see from wrestling on TV to wrestling live to wrestling on podcast. You can literally in two thousand nineteen just decide that wrestling is all you want to consume in your life. And it would you still wouldn't have time to consume everything. That's how much stuff there is out there. It's a good time to be a wrestling fan. Let's do it. Let's try to break down everything that happened. Just this week just in the first couple of days of twenty nine thousand nine hundred and take a look at what this year is starting to look like folks, let's get into the state of wrestling. It's now time for this week's state of wrestling. Yes. It is welcome to the state of wrestling, the first state of wrestling as a matter of fact of two thousand nineteen of course, we covered me Gino ghrelin at the top of the podcast is the life of mean Jean is by far the biggest story of the week this week. But that's why I wanted to start the podcast with it and stay save state of wrestling for some more topical items. Of course, in state of wrestling, we go over the top five stories of the week who to me unusually it's in order of most important, you know, the top five most important, meaning number one is the most important, but. I'm gonna start with wrestle kingdom thirteen at number five realistically. It's probably excuse me, realistically. It's probably the number two story. But starting with number five just for the flow of conversation. I suppose wrestle kingdom thirteen goes down on Friday, three AM eastern local time here in New York City is when it starts, of course, I believe it's on new Japan world. I know it's on fight dot TV. I know there. There are spots to see that. That's always a struggle here in the states to figure out where the best spot is to see wrestle kingdom. But there are plenty of spots. And I think fight dot TV is going to be on demand as well. What we're going to be doing on patriot is Friday afternoon. So it's gonna give everybody plenty of time to see it. We're not going to do immediately after the show, but some point on Friday afternoon, I'll be doing a live wrestle kingdom thirteen post show. We'll be able. To talk about all the matches. What went down what we thought of the show everything probably sometime, you know, three or four o'clock in the afternoon on Friday after everybody's gotten a chance to see it. And it'll be for believe superstars and above. I don't know, you whatever the tears are whatever. Whatever tier gets the the live pay per view Poche shows. That's the tier that's going to get this live pay per view post show. So the wrestle kingdom Poche show. Coming four patriotic users at patriotair dot com slash not Sam wrestling. Of course, the not Sam shells. You guys can log on Friday afternoon. I'll send an Email and everything when I know what time, but you'll be able to communicate. And of course, as you're watching the show, if you wanna send a comment to me either in the discord room or on patriotic page, I'll be able to incorporate those questions into the live Poche show. So go ahead and do that if you're a member if you're not a member sign up patriot dot com slash. Not Sam rustling become a not Sam shell today. You know, interestingly enough there is no there's no battle Royal this year. You know, the last several years of wrestle kingdom. The pre show has been all about the battle Royal and tons of surprise entrance and legendary entrance, you know, whether it's bad ass, Billy Gunn or juiston thunder ligers this year. The pre show is kicking off with the gauntlet match to to determine the number one contenders to the never open, wait six man tag team championship. And that of course, is the most violent players with to Gucci Versace, Yuji Nagata, Jeff Cobb, and Dave Finlay versus chaos versus Zouqi gun versus the elite which is represented by hangman page Takahashi and Marty skirl, you know. This show wrestle kingdom. I think it's going to be interesting for a lot of reasons. First of all it's being reported at the time of this recording that already right now today, it's officially sold more tickets than they sold last year for this show. There are more tickets sold to this year to rescue kingdom thirteen than there were paid attendees at wrestle kingdom twelve which as I've said, look, I said this going into twenty nineteen the only way to really figure out how you're doing in this life is to think about where you were three hundred sixty five days ago. And have you improved in any way, shape or form, are you better even a little bit? And if the answer is yes, you're crushing. So new Japan wrestling, thirteen more tickets sold even if it's one more ticket sold in wrestle kingdom, twelve congratulations. You're crushing. This show is going to be interesting for a lot of the same reasons. Why ring of honor final battle was interesting in the sense that. What is the future of the elite in new Japan? Now, it's a little bit different. Because in ring of honor. We knew that Cody and the bucks ring of honor contracts were expiring, we didn't know exactly what that meant. Now. We know that all elite wrestling is happening. It's happening soon. There's going to be a press conference on Tuesday. I believe to break it all down. Maybe we'll do a bonus show on patriot. After that press conference happens. But will they have a relationship with new Japan the way ring of honor does I would guess, no. I find it difficult to believe because ring of I'm wearing of honor has the relationship with new Japan. So I don't know why ring of honor would also want all elite wrestling to have relationships. I would imagine that ring of honor will be the ones that all lead is really competing with realistically more. So than WWE at least I saw and new Japan is kind of ring of honor's trick in their back pocket right now. So I would think that ring of honor's contract would not allow another partnership with another organization in the states. So will this be the end of the elite in in new Japan? Of course, mardi girl is sticking around ring of honor for at least a little while. But hey, man pages. And hey, man pages showing up with all league wrestling, he's already there. He's already apparently signed. If you look at the images, they're being posted. And we'll talk about all elite wrestling as state of wrestling continues. But you know, I when you're looking at it Takahashi Mari skirl they've got time to stick around in new Japan, theoretically, but hangman paged is not if this all elite wrestling is what it is. So you know, does the elite get squashed on this show? Finally, will they use their time to to make the bullet club and j white and the the the Tonga's look like a million bucks. I don't know. I would imagine the elite will not be the number one contenders to the never open, wait six man tag team championship. And I hope I I would like to see chaos get it, and they're represented by Goto Virata, and Chuck Taylor Chucky t so those are the guys that I think I would like to see. Them or Suzuki gun, I suppose, which is Zouqi Lance Archer and David Smith junior. But probably chaos would be my pick for that one big match. This is never openly championship. And this is one that people are thinking could steal the show a Bucci versus will Osprey. Of course. We'll Osprey was not involved in the WWE's cruiserweight classic. A Bucci was. But these are two guys that I think really need to make an impact in twenty nineteen. You know, there's certainly talked about they're certainly very much beloved in the world. Of wrestling. But are they at the top of the list, you know, with with more and more organizations popping up? I think that there is more competition and more reason to fight to have your name at the top of that list of the guys that people are talking about big money being put into all elite. Wrestling WWE is going to have to compete with that by offering bigger money than ever for annexed t signees ring of honor is gonna have to compete with that by offering bigger money in order to get that big money. You have to have value. You have to p you the the organizations have to know that you're going to bring audiences to see you. So that is the job that abortion will Osprey have at this show. And I'm what are they gonna be staying in new Japan for the next ten years? It's just the landscape of wrestling is changing in a way that you gotta make an impression and this is the opportunity for those guys to make an impression. And I think they will. I think we'll Osprey probably needs the win more than a she does. But I would my preference. Would probably be a Bucci winning. And again, I'm no, you know, new Japan expert. I don't watch every show. But I guess I know enough maybe I don't depending on your perspective. We got the three way tag team match for the I w GP junior heavyweight tag team championship, which is Suzuki gun versus Ripon G three K versus the Ingore Nobelists. They hop home. You know, I'm hoping it's Bouche Takagi. You know, I I love ally mainly for Naito, but you know, when that allied J logo pops up I pop when that logo pops Sam Roberts pops. So that's who I would want to win. This one Zack sabre junior is another guy who's got to make an impression this year. You know, Zack sabre junior is a guy who was in the cruiserweight classic. Who did not take the WWE up on you know, entering the two. Oh, five live landscape, which maybe is a good thing. You know, two. Oh, five live was not exactly the runaway success that I think some of the guys there thought it would be. But when you look at it. I mean, I think. Drew glac is doing great in terms of the character work that he's done clearly. You know, there are standouts into a five live. I think in general. Not so much. But like Mustafa Ali is now on the main roster a smackdown. And he's in the conversation of main event guys, you know, Mustafa Ali has a very smackdown early smackdown. Vibe from the initial draft when you guys like edge, and Ramos stereo and all those guys kind of Eddie Guerrero on the come up about to become the next class of WWE main eventers Mustafa ALI'S in that conversation in two thousand nineteen and two oh five live is what got him in the door. I mean, look, guys, etc. Alexander, and buddy Murphy that have gotten mainstream pay per view matches. You know, again, I'm not saying Zack sabre junior should have gone to to five live. I think as much. That the whatever not panache, but as much weight as a junior holes, I think he can do even better outside of WWE at the moment. But this would be the year to do it. It's exper- junior versus Tomohiro Ishii for the British heavyweight championship. You know? I mean, Susan Cain have a British heavyweight championship. Not the worst thing in the world that has exit between junior hold the title. It's a three way tag team match for the tag team championship every match is title match. I don't know how people don't criticize new Japan for having way too many titles. Of course, Thomas Tonga and Tonga Loa the guerrillas of destiny rubbing, the bullet club hard versus ally that sonata and evil versus the young bucks to me. I think that this match is all about the grill is a destiny in the young bucks. You know, there's been a lot of tension about the way especially at Tonga is. Identifying and defining the bullet club, you don't Cody stepped away from it. But at the same time you look at Thomas Tonga's tweets Tomasson is one of the dangerous Twitter's in the game. And he's kind of made inference that the stuff the elite was doing was not was an offshoot of the bullet club. And that he took ownership back the bullet club. You know, when you talk to AJ styles when he talked to even fin below her about the original bullet club Thomas Tonga is a name that comes up. You know, this is deducted the machine gun Carl Anderson about Luke gallows Thomas Tonga is. Is he the last member left of laughs founding member of the boat club Golo is there too? But one of the founding members of the bullet club, and he's gotta take ownership back of this thing. I would like to see Tommy Tonga pin one of the young bucks at this show to retain the I w g p tag team championship. And just a really cement that the bullet club is a strong force in new Japan. Of course, you're going to have to see that in the match between j widen Okada. Now, that's a bigger match because. Jay white kind of needs. The wind cement him as the next American star of new Japan. But at the same time, we're gonna job out the rainmaker at wrestle kingdom. You know? I kind of I have a tough time believing that Okada's not gonna win this match. But Jay white really needs it. So we'll see speaking of needing juice Robinson is going to need that. I w GP United States championship win from Cody Rhodes, and I think he's gonna get it. You know, I think Cody Rhodes is moving onto all elite wrestling, and this is going to be Jews Robinson's chance to shine. But as seriously is Cody Rhodes takes wrestling in the wrestling business and tradition in the way things are done. I would imagine Cody is going to make sure that this is a classic and Jews Robinson is going to be right there, making sure it is to you know, we all talk about Cody Rhodes and the way he left WWE, but let's make no mistakes about it. Robinson left annexed. E to find greener pastures, and he is really carved out a career for himself without the notoriety that WWE TV brings you being on the main roster brings you a certain level of notoriety. Choose Robinson left that company the security of that company without that notoriety and has really made a name for himself. And I think within the next two years or so Jews Robinson is going to be a name on the top of everybody's lips Kushida versus issue Maury for the item BGP junior heavyweight championship. Let me some Kushida the big too big matches. Chris Jericho defending that I w GP intercontinental championship against Naito Naito needs this one night. Oh needs this one. And who knows what Jericho's doing, you know, who knows Jericho is gonna stay with new Japan. Maybe Jericho will do stuff with all elite wrestling Jared tends to know how to be a part of what's cool. In wrestling. So he may be waiting for the dust to settle before. He really figures out exactly what he's going to do next. I think it would be a great relationship to have him be a part of all elite wrestling, it would add that extra level of star power. And at the same time maintain his not keep him, but maintain his relevance in the sense that he's maintained his relevance tremendously by going from WWE hitting up new Japan now to go to all elite wrestling, and then maybe do something else for WWE. Like, I you know, Jericho is just on another level right now. But I do think it's time for Naito to get that intercontinental championship match back. And of course, Tana Hashi who I think last year when we talked about him we kind of talked about him falling off a little bit. And I got a little bit of criticism for that. And maybe it was well-founded because he has completely cemented his position as one of the icons of new Japan. Pro wrestling for sure one of the great heroes that the company has and will ever. Have. And he's got that idea. BGP heavyweight championship match against Kenny omega. It remains to be seen where Kenny omega is going is all elite wrestling happening for Kenny omega. If it is I would imagine it's Tana ohashis time to be champion of new Japan and the idea BGP, but if not, you know, I think a lot of people think that this one may be going in favor of town Hashi, which could be a good reason to give it to Kenny O mega. We'll see what happens, and we'll break it all down over on patriot dot com slash nut. Sam wrestling Friday afternoon after the show is done. But I'm really looking forward to seeing it. It's always such a fun time to watch wrestle kingdom. I wake up in the morning on Friday before I go to the radio show. And and I'll be able to watch parts of it live. I I love it. I love it very very much. Speaking a big shows story number four is the first push toward Royal rumble promotion this week. Of course, you know. It's been pushed towards a little bit. You know over the last couple of weeks per this week was the first sort of full-fledged. Here's what's going on at the Royal rumble. We've got our universal championship match between Brock listener and Braun strowman. We've got our WWE championship match between Daniel Bryan and AJ styles. And what a tremendous fatal five way match to determine Daniel Bryan's opponent this week on smackdown. As far as the Royal rumble matches the men's Royal rumble. We've got our truth who's coming in at number thirty because the he and Carmella won the mix match challenge. We've got drew McIntyre who had a great cage match with dolph Ziegler that claim market gets better. And better every single time. I see it. It's amazing that it doesn't be head people and all three members of the new day also announced for the Royal rumble for the women's Royal rumble. Of course, Carmella who won the mixed Mitch challenge with our truth as previously stated we're going to have Natalia who announced on raw this week that she was going to enter because she wants her rematch with ROY. Ronda Rousey to go down at wrestlemainia Sasha banks and Bailey both entering ember moon and bring embrassing entering in an effort to make this her year and all three members of the riot squad live Morgan ruby riot and Sarah Logan, all entering the women's Royal rumble. Now, there was some mention made of the fact that they're not specifically advertising anymore that the winner the Royal rumble will get to main event wrestlemainia they're saying that the winner of the Royal rumble will get the we'll get a championship match at wrestlemainia, which I think is fair, but also not a shock. I mean, the winner of the Royal rumble can't get the main event of wrestlemainia because there's two Royal rumbles. So you know, we can't the winner of the men's Royal rumble. Plus there's four championships total in two matches. So I don't I don't think that that's shocking. And it's also not like it was ever guaranteed ever since there have been two titles. You know? I mean there what about now Burto del Rio winning the Royal rumble? So that he could wrestle edge. I at wrestlemainia, you know, I I don't do the Royal rumble has ever been about main eventing wrestlemainia it's been about having the championship match wrestlemainia. There was a time in WWE when it was all about the championship match. We knew that the WWE championship was going to be the main event, but. I think once the draft happened ten or more years ago that all went up in the air. You know, once there was more than one champion that all went up in the air. And now that the women are becoming with the women are becoming and we're looking at shows like survivor series where the women are legitimately main eventing. You know, I don't think there's any reason to sit there and say we'll clearly the winner of one of these two matches is going to main event the show. You know, it'll be interesting to see on smackdown. Of course, the conversation between Carmella Charlotte and Becky Lynch over who got the women's championship match at Royal rumble. I really wanna see Charlotte and Becky Lynch in the Royal rumble match. I think it will add a level of unpredictability of both. Those superstars are in it because Charlotte or Becky could win that thing because I don't think anybody's convinced even though everybody wants Becky Lynch versus Ronda Rousey. It'd be the main event of wrestlemainia. I don't think that wrestling fans are convinced the WWE is not going to either go for Charlotte versus Rhonda or some kind of a triple threat scenario because both storylines have been left open. So either way I think we'd be much better served at having a Carmella Oscar match at the Royal rumble. But then you look at it again, and you go we'll Carmelo is already the number thirty participant in the Royal rumble. So odds are she's not going to get the title match. There was a graphic that popped up. I think one of the weekend WWE shows the Becky Lynch versus Oscar would indeed be the match at Royal rumble. Now. There is this possibility the Ronda Rousey interferes and stops Becky from beating Oscar Charlotte goes on to win the Royal rumble. And then she challenges Oscar, you know, there is still this possibility that even if you've got Becky Lynch versus Oscar at the Royal rumble in a singles match. You could still have Becky versus Rhonda at wrestlemainia just have the winner of the Royal rumble challenge, the champion who isn't Ronda Rousey, you know. That's the beauty of not guaranteeing a main event slot. Just guaranteeing a championship match at wrestlemainia. So I'm excited for it. I love Royal rumbles probably my favorite event of the year. And I think this one will be no exception. It's just unpredictable, and we're able to have so much fun with it. I think on the men's side drew McIntyre is the one you gotta be looking at you know, we can move on to story number three because it kind of ties into all of this. And that is the two showdowns that we've seen over the past couple of weeks. We didn't get to talk about AJ styles in Vince McMahon last week because last week was all about the year of two thousand eighteen but on smackdown you've got AJ styles being confronted by Vince McMahon about being the real AJ styles. Vince hits him AJ knocks him in the face knocks him out. And that sort of tension was played up again on smackdown. This. Week. You had something similar on raw. But it was done. Well enough. The people. I don't think felt like it was repetitive. I certainly feel like it was repetitive. The segment between triple agent Seth Rollins. I thought was was great. Now. It's interesting that both Seth Rollins and AJ arguably the top good guys on either show right now, in my opinion. Good guys on either show right now are having a thorny figures on Ron smackdown. Tell them that they're not doing well enough. It almost makes me sit there and go I wonder if this is Vince McMahon's way of saying, hey, you're not doing well enough. Or if it's purely storyline who knows? But the fact that it's the same story lines basically is happening on both shows. I think that's a risky scenario. I think that these two have been executed differently enough that you know, most people it's probably kind of going under the radar. I just think that we need to keep moving them into separate directions. And who knows maybe end up with a Seth Rollins AJ styles match at some point to really determine. Who the dominant force in the WWE is. But I think that I think that AJ styles Seth Rollins and drew McIntyre our your three guys to look at in the Royal rumble. Now, the fact that AJ styles has his match with Daniel Bryan would lead you to believe that he's not going to be in the thirty man, Royal rumble match. So I'm kind of left with Seth Rollins and drew McIntyre in the thing. Those those would be my my picks, and my preference would be for Seth Rollins to win for Seth Rollins to capture. The universal championship from Brock Leser. And for drew McIntyre to come after him following wrestlemainia that would be my preference. But my preference doesn't always win out. But I just I think the vote those segments were great. And quite honestly, I think that and who knew leave is sense the shakeup, which really didn't seem all that dramatic when it happened. I think the shakeup was more of an acknowledgement. That the WWE saw what was going on and decided to move forward because Ron smackdown have been much better in the past couple of weeks the holiday, and they were taped. So it'll be interesting to see how they live but the holiday versions the Christmas and new year shows of Ron smackdown, especially the two New Year's shows fantastic better than a lot of shows this year and usually the holiday shows of the throwaway shows, but the Christmas shows, I don't think we're in the new year shows weren't even a little bit throwaway show at the new year shows, which is that you have to go back and watch because they were better than a lot of shows in two thousand eighteen you know, I do think, you know, when you talk about the like, the fresh start battle Royal thing. You had Apollo crews looking strong, your they're taking some time to tell Zack riders story about not having a match on raw and about you know, only ever buying figures on EBay, not having a real action figure collection. I think they brought that up. But I don't. Necessarily believe that those stories are gonna pan out. You know what? I mean. I I think that WWE sometimes have a tendency of being like, okay, let's refresh. Everything let's get these guys that maybe haven't had the greatest win loss record that. Maybe haven't done that much in the past year or two, and let's do something with them. The WWE has a tendency of of starting that. And then realizing like, oh, yeah, I guess this is why we didn't do anything with them. And they still kind of don't I mean think about all the many pushes that Zack Ryder has had in his career and anything Apollo crews is in the same boat. You know, that's not to say, you should be pessimistic about it. But I think realistically. The guys in the in the fresh start bad. Royal are probably not going to get a fresh start. I think fim valor might you know, I think guys that are on the cusp of being main event guys might have an opportunity here. I think Barron Corbin we'll get to a place where he's a big main event bad guy. I think imbalance going to have a pretty good year. But in terms of those other guys, I don't think no way Jose is going anywhere anytime soon. Let's talk about the number two story the week. That's Johnson is returned to smackdown. And the fact that the WWE decides to use that moment to push forward Becky Lynch, which I thought was such a great step forward such a great opportunity for Becky Lynch. And as I sat there, I was like, okay. You know, when John CENA first of all Zelina Vega comes out, and I loved it. They're giving Zelina Vega. Paul Heyman's lines. My name is Alina Vega. And this is Bob, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think that they're doing that on purpose. I think they want people to drop parallels to Paul Heyman and Selena Vega. There aren't that many managers agents advocates there aren't that many people in that role in WWE right now. So I feel like when somebody does pop up whether it's Drake maverick or or Zelina Vega or Paul Heyman. It's because. WWE has a lot of faith in those people. And I think WWE has a tremendous amount of faith in Selena Vega. And they should I mean, she just instantly has a way of going out there and owning arena, she gets on that microphone and she forces people to pay attention to her which you can't take for granted. I mean that is a that is a very valuable skill to have. So I was really happy to see her get the shine in that segment, and I was happy to see Johnson and Becky Lynn together when they've formed the tag team, I was like. Let's not make this hokey because you run the risk of Becky Lynn coming across like, John CENA's assistant. You know what I mean? Becky Lynch to get the rub from John CENA is a good thing. But to get what I call the tugboat rub in the sense that okay? We want you to cheer for Becky Lynch because she's friends with John seen like I don't know Becky needs that and that's why I thought it was so great at the end of the match when Johnson it goes for the handshake with his hair all over the place and Becky Lynn hit him with the you can't see me completely faked him out and walked out elbows. Pointing outwards proud as a peacock walking up that I'll as if to say now, John I don't need to shake your hand in case. You hadn't heard I'm already the man loved it. I thought that the fact that it ended. There was perfect. Let's get to the number one story of the week. This is really this is the one all elite wrestling is confirmed all elite wrestling is announced New Year's day three AM east. Eastern time twelve AM Pacific, Cody Rhodes in the young bucks announced that they put up the logo all elite wrestling is happening double or nothing is happening. We can assume the double or nothing is an event of some sort maybe their second big pay per view. Now, here's what we know about all elite wrestling based on their Twitter account. We've got Cody Rhodes, the young bucks hangman page. And and and and the family of those people based on the photo, we also saw Frankie kazarian Christopher Daniels Scorpio sky. Those guys were also on the flyer for the people that would be at this all league wrestling press conference event thing that's happening on Tuesday, which I'm excited to see what what what comes out of it. But they are. They're doubling down double or nothing and they're betting on themselves. Apparently, they've got a money backing them. They've got a guy named Tony Kahn who is a co owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars comes from a family that is reported to be valued at over six billion dollars. So they've got a one with think of any apparently he's a big wrestling fan too. Which is a good thing. So one would think they've got a pretty significant financial backer going on Cording to Dave Meltzer. They've got multiple parties interested in television, especially after all in went. Across so. Well, people liked it the production value was high. Don't forget they were able to get the all in pre show on WGN, even if all elite wrestling just manages to get a weekly time slot on WGN that would be a huge huge yet for them. I think the young bucks and Cody Rhodes I read are being listed as executive vice presidents one of the rumors. I read was that the young bucks we're going to be in more Booker positions. Whereas Cody Rhodes would be more of a producer position. I don't know what that means to all of us so much other than the fact that these guys are going to be the creative force behind this show behind all elite wrestling, and look, you know, I think that. I think it will be interesting to see exactly how this thing is laid out. Cody comes from a bloodline of promoters, the road's name goes with promoting wrestling dusty Rhodes, right? Cody also has been in the belly of the beast. He was raised in the WWE. He knows how it all works. He knows the secrets he knows the things that would never occur to you. Or I at a very very valuable asset. Now, again, I would've loved to see these guys pop up in the Royal rumble. But for the wrestling industry as a whole. This has the potential to mean a lot more. You know, it's really really crazy and Cody talked about it a little bit this week that you've got three guys that are three of the hottest free agents in the world. And they've all decided to trust in themselves and each other as opposed to doing what traditionally has been the obvious move, which is head over to WWE. I don't know if I would have made it made that move Cody. Luckily, his bended WWE before because the thing about WWE is your kid. You're wrestling fan. You have a dream to be arrest. Ller? It means you have a dream to be in the WWE, you know, and Cody and the bucks are changing all that. Now. You know, I I think that this is the best news for people. Like m j f who was on the show today. I think Dalton castle I think guys like that. This could be incredible news form, you know. One question was brought up which is did ring of honor make a mistake partnering with them to promote all in because what they did was to promote and produce. Because what they did was they created their own competition at the same time without all in. I don't think the Madison Square Garden show would have happened. But new Japan had a lot to do with that historically. We're going to have to wait and see I mean of ring of honor survives this thing. Then I don't think historically will look back on this as a mistake, but of ring of honor goes under then I think this will be the moment that people go. Yeah, they never should have done that with all in it proved to the world what Cody in the bucks can do when they're together. So we're gonna talk a lot more about all elite wrestling after the press conference. You know, I don't think immediately. It's going to be competition, quote, unquote to WWE you have to understand WWE is closer to Disney than it is to ring of honor WWE is a giant entertainment company. You know? So starting a wrestling promotion, you're not going to compete with WWE on a real like mono e mono level. But. All wrestling has a major opportunity to jump up to number two really really quickly and the more successful. They are the more investors. They can get in that company. The more people that can get putting money into that company in the more money. They put into the company the more likely they are to get to a place where they can compete with WWE look. For a long time. People's did not think of WCW is actual competition for WWE, and then the Turner organization decided to spend some money on it, and it became competition for the WWE. We'll see what happens here. The wrestling industry has a lot of talent in it. And the WWE has a lot of people that could benefit from knowing that there are other places to go. If they wanted to go. All elite wrestling has to be able to maintain that's going to be the key. Here is maintenance being able to main tame being able to stay alive. Not put on one more show not be open for a year all elite wrestling needs to have a plan to stay open and to grow over the next five years. And if they've got that going on. They're going to be a real real force. I can't wait to see what happens at this press conference. It's an amazing time in the world of pro wrestling two thousand nineteen is fabulous. You guys are fabulous. I appreciate you being here this week on not Sam wrestling. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 81: Star Spangled Rubber City Con (Review)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 81: Star Spangled Rubber City Con (Review)

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Don't turn that dial or choke you out in the world to take them tall your lives away sometime ago where everybody John in trouble on you when you and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name especially when we haven't heard from you and since April but this is wrestling cheers where we like to talk about things going on in the northeast Ohio independent wrestling scene we preview shows we review shows and sometimes we even have interviews along the way this will be a review episode for last Saturday show from Akron Ohio by W we had the rubber city con lot to get into with that show before we get all that let's get a little bit housekeeping out of the way we are brought to you by the training topics. It's not work any Oh sports insiders and iron tiger. Eh May I am your host. 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I'm looking forward to get into all <unk> getting into all of this because it wasn't just a show. We have the CON- so there's there's just a ton to get into it was an experience I will definitely say that and we have like I was Kinda hitting two in the opening someone who hasn't been on the show since the review show for the rap shows. We're talking April the end of April. He Have Dustin Al Birdie. I'm back everybody. It's okay I I know you missed me and now my voice is here to soothingly tell you about wrestling that happened forty five minutes away from me fifty minutes away from me but still have soothing loving voices here talk to you. Might you know everything's GonNa be okay. How'd that Dr Phil? I Made Adam drive slow. It wasn't much of an issue for me with something we can. We I want to get into before we get another con stuff because you really have nothing to add about the concept. You weren't even planning on coming to this show you showed up like probably about within an hour before the show started shop about like six forty five five ish I wasn't at the last night zero cool and then I wasn't going to be at Akron because at it was moving in that day we didn't how long things would take in <hes> but we didn't. I didn't go to the cans legs an actual add much to it. <hes> we decided around like probably two or three that we're going to have enough time to get things done. Get ready to go and get down there so we decided that whatever let's go so we came down there and I I did join the chat thing that we have now wrestling shares. That wasn't a part of his I have I've been taking some time off to get my personal life in order and then like ca I wasn't going to be at zero cool. I wasn't going to be an Akron and then I'm not going to be a hell honors so I wasn't really planning on being on again until either whatever December show or even if I waited until the urine review show but you're I am yeah in it for the record you did have an invite to our chat for for a discord channel but you just slack behind on it that it's something that I didn't push 'cause I was like well. I like I gave you the invite. I'm just my he'll eventually get around to her. Children say you'll say hey why the hell have met on the show and I'm like Oh because you're not in the chat. Yeah I knew it was mostly because like the not being the champion. I never downloaded the APP <unk>. Lincoln ause like I'll get to a once sounds like my life settles down a little bit. It's finally settled down a little bit and here I am so let's let's get into the con- we I'm rick you actually actually before we get into that 'cause I was Gonna mention that you did by five the mega ticket to get pitchers and autograph with people not necessarily everybody but there was the select list <hes> we both were there early enough four the tailgate. I wasn't there for the beginning like I. I don't know how much I missed but I shout out to tailgate guys. <hes> the what at ringside guys I believe the mixed signal twitter. I was like forget what's what but anyway they had. A barbecue pulled pork. I know he said he was trying to get certain like barbecue recipes down and something happened and screw them up so he challenges regular sweet baby but it was <unk> owner. It was good food. Would you think yeah I got there around two o'clock. I did partake in the forks of you know Nice job to tailgate ringside of smoke in barbecue. Whatever you know the correct candle is going to be and <hes> you know little parking lot partook in some <hes> some rum filled gummy bears and <hes> you know just Kinda Kinda kill the time? It was a little chillier than we wanted it to be but you know you can't complain. That's it's almost November and where you know what L. We are into November at this point and was November at the show if we can we can we can squeeze out another fifty degree day. Were pretty happy up your yeah. It wasn't hot. It wasn't really like we weren't out there in winter coats. I didn't think of stupid though like on my way out there was a dude who was just like Oh. My God is it always is cold here and I'm thinking the Fucker you from doc is a quorum from it's always eighty degrees. I don't think we're the fucking from then. What are you doing up here for for the show did you Dr Davis from maybe was from Los Angeles like Kelly squared? Can't I don't know what it was <unk> <unk> how this I'm like we're in Ohio. You're in the snow belt granite. There's no snow but it still can be colder. We have you know Lake Eerie. Just north of us in this whole area can get very very cold so yeah like it's going to be colder than usually. I don't know where this guy was complaining about. It just so weird it's like I don't know if you're in the middle of Texas and all of a sudden someone just bitching about hall hot is if you're in Texas native you'd be like yeah. This is plucking Texas. What do we what were you expecting so we have talk as well? The weather whether talks great we are we haven't done in awhile where we had like weather forecasts about shows but normally that was when we have to wait outside the door you like music links and kill the jags because normally you're out there waiting and it's cool to know like okay like is going to be raining or is it going to be cold. It'd be to hot like what where we what are we looking at her. Wait outside so this we tweet shows wait outside for for this particular show but all the tailgate was great. I KINDA WANNA get one together or didn't thought to me if we have one for counter. Earth is like one last one for of the year and the thing that I it would be Kinda cool. That's your day because it being black Friday and some people have plans before the show before they they come out so we'll see how all that runs down but laugh. Ask The tailgate guys whether they're gonNA be doing it or not. So ball is in their court anyway <hes> going into the Conrad. Tell us about your experience with like how many people you had in each and everyone like you want to talk about because I I only met one technically to and we'll talk about it but I'll I'll you can have the floor. I think I know the the couple that you met but <hes> you'll just have to kind of fill me in but we get there. <hes> everybody went into three thirty I by the front row tickets because I'm a mark and <hes> where where I like to be <hes>. I did spring for the the super ticket whatever he called it. You know to get everybody the eight by ten the photo <hes> <hes> eight by ten McKee's completely down with that stuff and it's kind of Nice with stuff like that you know tugboat and Booker T. and and <hes> now and not so much Kurt Gertner but bought some of these guys the that he's never seen before you know little bit were frame of reference something for him to go back and look at and now it's it's so easy with the network and everything to look to look at us. <hes> I popped right into the to the main room just to take a look. I did not go the first accurate show so I really kinda wanted to see what the layout was. I'd heard all these these great things about the venue you know everything from the artwork on the walls John House are no I was I was laughing. I was laughing of artwork at work he really artwork on the walls and you know the photos of the shriners and everybody there so I wanted to take a look and you know and said it said Hi. It's a thrift store and software <hes> so I see Bob Morton in just hanging down there by herself so I stepped on down there have discussion with them. I'm used to the meet-and-greet Switz- A._I.. W Don't do all of them but I probably do. You know at least one in three and I find that they're usually hey our area. <hes> you know handshake grabby picture nice to see you. You know have a good day so that was kind of the mindset that I was in with this <hes> so I go down with <hes> with Bob Morton. I'm trying to think who what's the least Marquis the thing I can say to somebody Ohio. You're just all your kid has wrestler sobbing like that so I I go. I you know I knew he was from Saint Louis. I used to live in Missouri as I said something about Missouri 'em at that point. It was like <hes> <hes> just the floodgates open and this guy just wanted to talk and I'm like it was almost like talking to my grandfather. This guy was just the nicest you know. Most accommodating took a picture with me photograph. You know I used to live in the city down. That actually was pretty much destroyed by a tornado about five six years ago so he was telling me about how you know his. I guess humanitarian efforts is makes it sound a little more impressive than earl is but I enjoyed. I don't think you you met or digit. No not not county met the two that I then you've Okapi know about well. I did Kelli Kelli Lat next and we say oh we could just my like we can. I just saved Kelly Kelly for for maybe a little bit later <hes> <hes> at the room with the Tugboat Booker T. N.. Joel Gertner <hes> Gertner Gertner was awesome. It was a quick. Hey how are Ya you know photo boom bull <hes> Booker Teams Kinda interesting. <hes> you know he was sitting there watching the whole time he was watching 'cause it was the U._f._C. so about the only thing I could think of to talk to him about because I just I'm not a big meal not Booker T. Guy so I said something to him. I said I said what do you. What do you think about coaching? You know. He's from the area. Everybody talked to up here. We'll be like Oh yeah. We know that guy from this. We know that are from that because go up from the area. It's everybody knows Tran-. He goes out kind of bullshit. That lessner might get shot before he gets a rematch when I went all whole okay to that the cool those something. I didn't think you'd say so <hes> I get the feeling that he's a he's a little bit or into the U._F._C. Mason than I guess. I thought that he was <hes>. Did you get the Meat Booker T. R. U.. You've gotta before Avenue Yeah. I did technically meet him before noon. That's what he was watching yeah. I would have mentioned mentioned to him about just evil. I get his opinion on her but was watching you U._F._C. prelims so I I've been talking about it since they announced it and I finally got up the courage to say something thing because I think about this podcast I only try to get sound bites and everything from people who are independent wrestlers and mostly ones. Maybe a little bit more local or I have a good enough personal relationship with them. I've only ever tried to get a soundbite from one bigger name and illiterate which probably I was way out of. My League of time was my second A._W._S.. Show back in two thousand twelve and it was coca banham and he didn't necessarily shoot me down but he said he wanted money and I was like tiger. I don't have any signs of what I had bought merged with so I backed out. I haven't asked anybody since then so I waited until Mike Booker T. had next to no line. I think I am Eh one person behind me and I was allowed to just go didn't pay while I went up to my hey. Can I try to get out of me like how. How do I ask this big time wrestler somebody who's been in W._B._Z.? I'm like been wrestling probably most of my life not all of my life and say hey can. I get a free soundbite from you because I do a podcast that I know everybody has a wrestling podcast but I do one that kind of pays homage to you because you always have more people in your faith five then five so I do by faith five questions and we have six so I actually ended up getting it out and he he did us a sound bite which you will hear next week on the podcast because we will be having a interview with West Barkley originally supposed to be recorded on Saturday but he was so busy with a w stuff he was so tied up and we have rescheduled for this Thursday evening evening so when this it'll be the day of that this gets released at night. We're going to record it. We have this whole thing which I don't know if I've officially mentioned he's never had Swenson's and in the Akron area. That's a well unknown drive in Burger joint. He has reason why he hasn't had it and why he really wants to try it so the whole thing. We're going to do the interview. There's going to be two parts and I'll be in the same episode of the first part. He's GonNa come in. We're GonNa Talk ice-breaking stuff and then we'll get into reason why he's why he's like this like his whole back story on it and then we're going to go eat and we're GONNA come back and record the second half to get his reaction on what he thought a Swanson Guide other people the author the things it's it's overrated and all this kind of stuff but it's he has a reason why he wants to try it so we're gonNA. We're GONNA have some fun with us. So many movies tell stories so <hes> yeah. You'll hear the Booker T. soundbite Um by it'll be a staple from now on we when we go into the five questions of the interview be having me do a little bit more editing than I prefer to do but hey it's. It's I got what I wanted so I was as happy about that. I'm happy see here that you got the sound bite. I was really hoping so sorry I I haven't really been talking I have I've not much had this whole. Conversation was not ethicon as previously stated. Go all right the. The only other <hes> after that I did hit <hes> tugboat. I don't know if if Mr heavyset if you've got to talk to tugboat he probably by far was my favorite due to talk to <hes> I had a little bit not a good story story but I <hes> worked at a warehouse. They got three or four guys that worked for me. So whenever somebody just screw something up you know I had a couple of guys just black water pipes and stuff with a tow motor just just dumb dumb dumb dumb grap <hes> <hes> I'm reminded of an old of Dusty Rhodes interview I if it was just reser code reds that would say when the shock master went through the wall and fell down said dusty Rhodes said that cody Rhodes turned to him and said I think that was uncle free so now everybody in buddy screw something up at work you know smashes into something or whatever which seems like daily <hes> where where I find myself going think that with Uncle Fred I happen to mention that to to him and I didn't even get the words Dusty Rhodes out of my mouth when the rest of their do it if you wheel the hold Hab we with taking the pictures together and I have <hes> the iphone has that little live <hes> thing it takes two or three second video video with <unk> and the whole time that the kid took the three pictures you can just see his mouth moving and he's making the head movements. He's doing his dusty Rhodes impression. I was like this is the best I you know I. I didn't have any kind of preconceived notion about how tugboat was going to be going in but why far he was my favorite of the you know the sex that I'm I I mean I didn't have much to talk with him about. It's more or less as a kid especially when the run of the natural disaster happened I might have been like five or six and I was just kind of getting into wrestling the lasting memory I have is summer slam ninety two because I had it on V._H._S. and I watched the shit out of that fucking jess so I just love like you know the the face version of natural disasters so I told him I WANNA natural disasters like pick of you. I saw the pecking it came out pretty well. I liked it yeah. The arms folded in the earthquake one thing I'll say I did notice everybody's pictures I've seen like <unk> took pictures on it seems like <hes> tugboat definitely had like the most like seemed like he was having the most fun in humans the most like happy to like meet people in see people which was kind of cool to see the. I think that's a perfect perfect observation with a Gertner was governor was good but he you know l.. E. D. did the did the you know the kind of sleaze Gertner pose the tongue out the point and then <hes> shark boy with shark boy. You wasn't supposed to be there anyway. I'd never met him but I know he's been around the area before which Ettelaat to talk about with shark boy which we didn't really get a chance to mention for those who didn't know the we had cancellation the day of and unfortunately I guess Gilbert Gates some bad seafood or something and was replaced by shark boy and then there was plenty of jokes had that day and I even seen a Shane Helms make a comment on twitter about I was like all right as long as long as more people are in the same boat of thinking a bad seafood and we replace him sharp boy hooker. Maybe it's all work the I'd never I'd ever met him before but he was <hes> he was nice enough. I think there was no line I mean I probably should there for five or six minutes in just kind of Chit Chat with him and <hes> <hes> I think by that point razor-sharp a sharp moved over there so they were just just hanging out the only other one that was left was Kelly Kelly and she she was Kelly Kelly and so I got that picture noth- nothing to add about the experience Mama I must somebody is somebody was doing no negativity November. I'm not sure he that was okay. No no que no nicotine November his only on social media the I don't know the INS and outs of everything that I really don't care about the business part of the about the convention <hes> Checchi <unk>. I the first thing I said to her as as I walked over I figured once again back to my Bob Morton <hes> how evolution to have such a good time you you know isn't gonna ask that everybody else was going to ask so. I walked up to her and I said I know she's west coast and I said she's down there and she's got three coats on I so I like a jackass marked. Oh so how you enjoying the weather here in Cleveland and she looks at me and she says I can't wait to get back to Los Angeles. I'm like okay sounds good and so we get the picture and I probably honestly down there. I talked more with T._k.. D who was doing the hunting for her than actually did with her so it was nice to hear and <hes> I'm good. I really wasn't that into her like when they announced go Kelly Kelly cool but I was never a big Kelly Kelly fan and I don't think she brought the transplant belt so now I would have if if I was doing people if I was doing the experiences Alex I probably would skip Kelly sense it. Was You know I did go ahead by the ticket for for everybody. <hes> you know more for tugboat Gertner Booker T. that side of it <hes> i. I wasn't not GonNa do it. <hes> I don't I know your individual experiences with Kelly Kelly very <hes> I won't they was a bad experience. It just wasn't pretty much just was an experience and that's about as good of a glowing review as I can put on it. How many people you were on that ticket? It was the the six so the three in the back room booker Gertner N. tugboat to Mr Boat and then Kelly Kelly Bob Morton and Tilburg soon to be shark boy so okay then in terms of booker t who is in your faith five dog so rape the six from one to six <hes> eight tugboat was easily in my book tugboat was number one all <hes> <hes> you know I'm I'm forty so I remember I remember all the tugboat earthquake stuff <hes> Bob. Morton was probably number two for me. He just seemed like he enjoyed being there. <hes> you know you mentioned to me that he was like yeah. I was at the airport at four o'clock this morning. He just you know and then we'll get to it later his little bit of involvement in the actual main card <hes> you know after that Gertner and Booker T. and shark boy shark boy and do you know you don't have anything next to say. I want to say something because I looked it up to see if it actually exists in doesn't exist like the dream match liberty always wanted to see was Goldberg for stone. I'm cold Steve Austin. Can you believe that Berg for stone. Cold Shark boy has never happened as far as I could tell maybe we're building for. Maybe this is going to be the start of the few Gilbert <unk> I I mean I feel like the idea I looked everywhere. I cannot find it anywhere so I could be wrong in might exist but Gilbert Bristol gold shark boy seems like just the money idea and all money yeah yeah that would be <hes>. That'd be interesting one so so rick you. You'RE NOT GONNA rate the other three. Oh after after the top two Gilbert at a Gilbert notwithstanding because he wasn't there to take shark boy out of it I wasn't expecting you know booker in Berkner and then the bringing up the rear obviously as Kelly Kelly no pun intended. I wished there was pun intended for a really really releasing there was really wish correspondent <unk> only if only if but anyway so you have that seemed to be our experiences of the con- itself I think the only other pitchers or anything that I end up getting throughout the the night was i. I did get a picture with Faye Jackson and E._S.. Yes even though she watch it before I get into the second one but <hes> she actually called me out like I didn't get a picture with her until intermission and of like towards the end of intermission and she's like you've walk past here like five times. Now you ask for Pitcher and I'm like yeah sorry so they're not st called you out on your bull shark. Didn't she yeah she did so. I better with her then. She's like you better tag me. I was like thinking that yes I will yes Ma'am I will when I post I always tag so even though she wasn't scheduled for a match and she has wrestled in the w but she's been showing up lately. I got a picture with Jinx. I really enjoy what I've seen from her and she can be very fun online to just being very funny about stuff just me and my own opinion like she did this whole makeup thing like half of her face was an style kind of like a penny wise and the other half was like a acute adorable and I just thought that was kind of funny because she has that whole horror side of her that I like so I'll like fuck it. I don't I'm not at many shows that she's at so as you might as well cheesier skip pitcher and I got a sound bite from her for future use on the show because it was perfect time year for her. She too loves Halloween time of year into the fall she kinda does go crazy on her and Ray Lynn. We're doing haunted. Houses are or things like that. I <hes> I got a picture with Allison K. as well because <unk> odd love Alison K. and <hes> she was over in the corner over by shark boy so it's kind of out of the way that I kinda you know it's more people that were accessible for the Con- part you know you had the usual people out Dominic and B._B._N.. And swaddled POO and and cut out Kevin Nash and so forth so was nice yeah. I think it's crazy about A._k.. Because I think me and Dustin how long we've been around it seems crazy like so. Many people like Oh my God I finally I finally got to meet <hes> Bake Sienna. I was I can't be able to someone like you said like we should have been around for so long and like I mean to think like hackel bought two dates with her and that was at like the pre the fan fast things before Jalen hurts and those were they only had those what the two years that they had <hes> Jalen one two or Jalen to three or over was it was jailed it one two three one two three all headed <hes> first year was it was like an open adding uh yeah yeah and then you're too they had like different events and like a couple of matches manure three it was basically just like what to and three help a little defense things to of to head just Veda <hes> and the third one started to be just Veda but it was Veda Thin Heidi and then Jacobs Zorich incomes and then they also had the tracy smothers shoot entering during one of those like I. I never really I guess because I don't Really Watch T._N._N.. I haven't been watching too much like me. I know that she was in the me on classic way. I haven't really realized how big the Senate Alison Cao's gotten fifty four like Oh. I can't wait to neater because like you just seemed like she was literally at like. All of these shows when I first started going Dan of you that it doesn't seem like it's all that crazy that she's there yeah like if like me and you know she's been around for so many years Mike maybe in the past maybe about three. Let's say like she definitely went. She hasn't been around as much but we are also around. The Horn lengthy women's title rain where I mean. She wasn't wasn't every show but she was at an off yet. She's she's another word to that and I think over the last year I've started to realize this a little bit more or she's got that exposure. You know you said as the May a young <hes> where you just never know when it's going to be the last time that you're going to see these people. I mean a case in Point Chenab as lers there and then she's not air anymore. You know Johnny Canvas Heidi m crazy Mary and all these people that Alva center just gone snapped up so quickly <hes> you know it's taking advantage if you don't understand people that won't just say hi to people. I guess that's not make up an get it you. You know just go up. Say Hello. Hey you know I appreciate what you do. <hes> I can't think of bad experiences I had with indie talent. Pardon the expression there I just I can't think of bad experiences. I've had with these people. Most of them are are more than happy to say hello into their generally appreciative when you say hey I enjoy what you do. I like this. I like when you do that. You just never know where these people are going to be gone. You know we we talked about this before when we lauded on M._J.. Off Athens and guys like that so we need to rehash it but that's Kinda how I feel about we've taken a lot of time to talk about the con- but that wasn't the only part of the show which actually we do need a mention. There was some like pre show matches. Unfortunately none of us were around for all three the I only know the first match in the last match the first match was a writer read versus Air Orion Orion one and the third match was Brian Carson Versus Big Twelve Tucker and Bryan Carson won the second match was like a tag team match and I do believe it was between two teams that people like a lot of people didn't know not people that know present company included so it's it's hard to comment on so even before we get into the card we do have to talk about what happened before the show started but after the common there was the national anthem it it did happen we had <hes> potato come out the flag and that no-one singing just recording of the national anthem but it it did happen so little bit of information I would. I don't want to throw out there. I was in the bathroom while I was in the bathroom. Weird body was also in the bathroom so I feel like knee weird body. We're doing our part to protest the injustice in America during the national anthem. I know I was just by coincidence that we were doing it. That was our that was our way really sticking to the man is we were in the bathroom at the same time the national anthem just so happened to start flying re- were you holding holding it for each other I was I was kneeling journal named time you're neal's I was kneeling keying into the toilet. Yes I'm a set nearly in the men's room was not something you want to be doing man. You don't know where you are. Sometimes sometimes you gotTa do what you gotTa do. I've seen movies so we actually did get into the card with you. Actually did have opening match. Obviously glory hole jokes. Yeah I know so <hes> we started off with a fait Jackson versus C._N._N.. That'd be the University of Akron Alumni Faye Jackson versus. The former Awa women's champion Alison Kay A._K._47. Aka scana addressing about this match. I really like everything I've ever seen from Ajax and obviously Al Que is a pretty tough year women's wrestlers and and I think that <unk> matches where you could see the Seattle made phase per game and she definitely met she definitely met her. There was a lot of fun it was it was a good had salad women's match it wasn't like wasn't predicated on comedy because good because a lot of times women's matches like predicate on the comedy your sexuality. I think either of these factors really got stuck on Matt. It was just a really good actually a really good wrestling match with no real like gimmick behind. It was just two women wrestling extremely well erectile. I enjoyed it. I think they made it a point to start art. START OUT HOT. Excuse me <hes> going out into the ground. <hes> you know all the way round. A thrift store job or gets involved for the first time in the evening Hands Alison K. A. V. H. S. cassette tape that. She proceeds to clock Faye Jackson with so that was something you know Kinda Fun <hes> after the match I went and grabbed the V._H._S.. Tape and I had Faye Jackson. Sign was I'd housing case signed the other side for jobber so I don't know if that clinical valuable less valuable <hes> sign-off I'm in trouble for that or or whatever <hes> I like. <hes> you know it's it was a it was a women's match in there. Both of those women could be wrestling mm someplace else you know may young <hes> classic with <hes> Alison Kay <hes> feel like Fay Jackson could could be an impact in honor <hes> candidate. I guess I'm sitting here watching election coverage of that word it comes to mind you know in the future nothing bad to say about my level when <hes> every time I see Faye Jackson I will kind of mentioned this is that I always think of begins and it's mainly because there's a pitcher with biggins and Fay in what happened at the Lasch Gino that we had which was big as last show and I think that pitcher happened like right before I left so that's something that that always always comes to mind. It's really cool to see you know how how far C._N._N.. has come just thinking back to literally the first time I seen her is when she got her nose broken by Liam and I'll far veve both common now you know where here and Sienna Sienna while now she's also go by not just Allison K. but you know she had the run in impact and now and she'd been the May young classic and I really don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that maybe within the next year or so we see her uh in W._w._e.. Like outside of the May unclasping maybe a contract because I I don't think it's it's over for her. I think there's more to common phase uh she's I think she's a little bit younger in the business but I I love when I see from her too and I I did hear people kind of like complaining about you know they. They did the whole only know outside the ring stuff the whole hardcore stuff and it didn't need to be done yeah I I see but you know it. They were using what they could then so every matches hadn't happened to be in the rain in there was the moment which I didn't see until it was on <hes> twitter or something a pitcher like apart with <hes> page accident and Antoine so then like Tom was in a seat and I got this right like someone please correct me but Sienna kind of gotten his lap and then you had like Fay shaking her ass or something. I don't exactly now but I seen a pitcher kind of bad mike that's for for big toe on my death pretty fun Cole. I missed it now. Definitely got to go back and look for Saadi. One was very infatuated with stay was the chance was the story around. Oh yeah thing for oh. Yes the rumors like there were a couple of times like she would post pictures. You know in like sexier zero looking outfits and took the big one me that was going around of Shock Thuan Mike I would just reply with that because I thought it was so funny but yeah <hes> death think there's a pitcher of it of what happened on twin lawns twitter not one hundred percent sure thought macos. I got the results and everything up so I'm going through that so <hes> this match did end with a Sienna picking up the victory via pin him fall any additional thoughts guys nope lovable analogous that it was really good niche. It was <unk> and I will say V._H._S.. Tape that was hit on the we mentioned what it was was a V._H._S.. Copy on E. ON television special. The secrets of professional wrestling reveal wasn't now at now. I don't feel too bad about having each of them China because I I grabbed it mayhem each sign it real quick. The job was up running around doing something and I'm like Oh crap. I hope that was like a really valuable one that having a couple of signatures on he was kicked me like I was giving saw that runner bugs now at Gangi so now oh I don't feel too bad I mean I. I don't think if it was a valuable V._H._S.. He would his hands it off to be used in a match you but you never know about Jabber that guy's crazy you WanNa talk about your shirt that you are the we we kind takeover. I could touch on it very quickly. Just making sure that said <hes> I just through your chair gobber three sixteen <hes> I have nothing but love and respect for the thrift store Jabber <hes> we have hashed. We've hashed been rehashed and rehashed again his incident at the <hes> at the escape from Cleveland. I believe that was the show and <hes>. I don't think we need to go too much into it. <hes> that's probably the last last thing I will do to poke fun at him. It got a pretty good reception. I got some smiles laughs from people and that's probably about the end of it for me. Maybe until the first of the year also you did somewhat dress up for the show. I had my wiser end. My Straw hats in the plan was if Josh Bishop was able to capture the championship from Tracy and we can talk about that later that I was gonna pop my Straw hat on and my Hawaiian Shirt and B. E. C. W. Front row fan douchebag to make sure that I took credit for his win. That works right yeah yeah okay. That's what I was GONNA so next up. We had our which I think. This was the only unannounced match that we got it was a six way scramble. We had Donovan Dan Housing Versus T. K. D. versus Zach Thomas Versus Bobby Beverly early versus Wheeler Yuda versus making his Awa debut project MANEX which I've heard about that dude he's appeared on my suggested facebook friendless for awhile and someone actually tagged wrestling cheers on a post where he said hey what wrestling podcast you wanna hear me on and Livas Fan. Andrew Jones tagged US my my only issue was on like I don't know who this is. I don't know what kind of conversation I will. I will have with him so I don't let what they all openly admit with interviews. I don't just try to get anybody. I want to have someone that I'm going to have a good conversation with and I wanted to be outside of the whole <hes>. How did you become a wrestler or what were your? What was your favorite wrestling those like really Syra typical which actually a after the show I got a really a conversation with chinks like me her and Dr Dan and she mentioned an analogy that I never thought of some interviewers when it comes to like wrestling pod gasoline get someone on they treat it more like a like a the business interview like a work interview words where they're interviewing them for a job like that's not what this is about because if you ask a wrestler how did you get into wrestling odds are aw that's already been asked a million times okay little hyperbole but it's been asked a lot on other podcasts so there's there's people who are fans of that wrestler who are listening here show they already know I've had that with? I think a couple of wrestlers magnum and P._B.. Her them on so many interviews where there was always repeat questions and I'm like are the answer this question and yeah. It's exactly what I thought it was because I had heard it so yeah. He seems like Coal Dude coin back to project <unk> Dude. I'm not trying to get an interview with him but if he keeps you run air W and I get up a conversation with his regularly <unk> potential. I will say not like corrected by I rider read was saying he was pat. Monica is okay. That's that's the thing Pat Manex or something along those lines. Yeah I might like the project. I don't know it's supposed to be like the gimmick battle he 'cause. He shows up on my facebook. Friends suggest <hes> suggestions and it's pet monarchs and twitter handle is at project monarchs and he was announced as project monarchs but even I thought it was just pat modest so that's good to get some no clarification that yes. It was pat monarchs thing I like about you know where we are right now with A._I.. W there's always random debuts and random returns so you know we had you know Pat Monarchs on here at he's I think he is out of Chicago so to see him pop on a show that was cool. He might erode with another wrestler. I think I know who I'm not going to get into that. So what did you guys think of not only pat but everybody everybody else in this match and smashes the whole start with Rick. I don't remember a lot. It's match <hes> not sure why don't remember dispatch drunk <hes> so maybe Mister Alberto can fill in the trio's little bit for me. The one spot that I do remember <hes> I like teague a lot. He threw probably the best kick I have ever seen him. Throw this big roundhouse and I don't remember <unk> Thomas Her who he had but it was the best look infrequent kick. I have seen the K. D. hit a long time. <hes> you know he's got that that <hes> that martial arts kind of gimmick and I wanna see those vicious vicious you know looking kicks from him a little more often so that's about that's the only thing that really stands out to me from us. Batch I so I haven't been on your side and really be able to talk about is like eighty or guys League Zach Thomas <hes> He K. D. is really coming into his own which is nice like it was kind of awkward at first smells like all right so give it your taekwondo guy you do kicks and stuff but like he seems like he's getting way more comfortable double which is really good. <hes> Zach is as much before he Russell Mary a little bit before it was Thomas doing his own thing he just has so much tense ity any so slyke added unlike the finish obviously he won <hes> like just the intensity he threw his finisher with and everything so hard hitting look so good in so Chris so having <hes> it was just. I think he's getting really good really quick <hes> whether you'd has been at the last few shows are seeing him. He's fun. Pet Botox did a pretty good job will my missing who the other the two people Justin <unk>. I want about whether Yuda I don't know how many other people join myself and fellow Wfam Michael. We were chanting M J F at Wheel Yuda because last week at the beyond show oh he dressed up like M._j.. F. And I make this comment on line. The comment that I kind of had in my head and it was just like this is what happens when you get a a Chinese knock off because that's what it kind of felt like no nothing about whatever we'll use. His heritage is but it's more or less you have original and then you're definitely have oh a copy and probably why I'd never tweeted it out and I was like like I got this joke in my head. I'm just GONNA leave it at that but we did chant NJ F- he he came out and told us a really quick story about how he just like stole it out of a M._C._a._s. bag and what wasn't he asked him if he goes you know bear balls in there basically in M._j.. Said of course so fun fact but the other people bobby beverly and Dan Houser Oh yeah that's right <hes> obviously value Beverly Bobby Beverly Goodbye overly great wrestler doesn't get enough credit for being as good as he actually is. I think the hives in situations stations like this is a really he can really show his veteran skills and really you can really teach these kids to. I think the thing when it comes up to Bobby Beverley is he's always seemed to have so much potential and there's times that he's railroaded it far as the stories I've been told I love bobby. He's one of those news I see him every show I hug them and then like we know we don't know some sort of conversation like I love the do but that's always a complaint that I've heard I heard and then Dan housing like I really like what he does like is look. He's a great wrestler. I just I don't understand because now this is like the third time that Dan Housing in his head has had a singles match but the other members of the production are author with like it just it just seems disjointed to me understand that they had a match later in the night fi like even for Derek not to be out there it just it doesn't it almost makes them seem like a separate entity from production which seems counter productive to how much the production works together and how cohesive they are package and he was out with the production as a whole to yeah and that's and that's usually how it ends up like Dan how's <unk> match by himself and then like when the tire productions out there. He'll be out there so that'll be a question we'd have to ask the production might be something we throw it on twitter or if one of them get gets backed us a why Dan housing comes out alone is is something that he prefers because I even see that too. He's the type of guy that he just goes goes out alone. He's I know it's a different company but he he's he reminds me of the dead wrestling society that was in P. W. O. R. Prime Wrestling Whenever whatever entity you refer to it as he definitely has has that type of vibe to them like if there was some sort of story line where Crimson or fucking aircraft came back curse you know I could see the parallels and I I could see the house kind of wanting wanting to go at certain things alone but I don't know we'll it's a question that will have to get answered some of their time and that match <hes> Zach Thomas pull out the victory by Pinning T._K.. D. And these two as a whole will are really shining that this most recent class I'm a I'm a huge fan of the of the four and they all seem to get their moments to shine and it's cool to see Zach Thomas. Finally you know get his opportunity opportunity and hopefully we see more from that than even what was already mentioned. I think T._K.. D has progressed more and more every single show and there's obviously still plenty more room to go next up. We had Dr Daniel C Rockingham and shark boy now. I'll openly admit I'm not as familiar with shark boy because a lot of his T._N._A.. STAF was not when I was around. I've seen you know pre stuff here and there <hes> I've I did enjoy enjoy this match but we're seeing a different side of Dr Dan. Did you know when he got the pin fall but I kind of want to go back to I think he he's become a little more intense but he had moments that I we haven't seen from him. If ever maybe if we have it's been a while while we're guys thoughts on this matched arthritic. I I look Dr Dan <hes>. I was bored out of my head. During this match <hes> I enjoy meeting shark boy. I forgot that I guess I not really a big shark boy wrestling Fan <hes> you know we got the shark boy biting spots by the fingers and by me ask of Dr Dan and in other than the toilet paper in the beginning in the little bit a doctor. Dan Crowd work. I don't remember a whole lot else from this just happened and actually said that Dr Dan Gidon didn't get more toilet paper that I'll take partially. I probably should went on bought some when I went out to target it but we did get some. I don't think we got enough. I I was expecting what what we were supposed to get at the last Akron show 'cause I think I bought twenty dollars worth if there was a lot of toilet paper and it would have been a nice you know just like cascade. just shower toilet paper and we we didn't get that so i even got a video of it but i didn't post it because i just i'm like <hes> did not come out as good as i wanted i'm completely into dr dan weapon that stuff back out into the crowd aw that's that's -pletely into that that's one part of this different side of dr damas little bit little bit more angrier side and he shouldn't like i think later on with the pamphlet i think i got added a pitcher video just him just going nuts briefly about you dozen <hes> i feel like the disrespect for dr dan is getting a bit out of hand i also believe in a chart doc boy is definitely not the same shark boy that was in the exhibition in t._n._a. anything timeless kind of caught up with him he's not the same shape he was he does a lot more comedy nobody spots than he did when he was actually like in the x division in doing some of a little more high flying stuff <hes> the crowd really seemed like him which is good he still has the crowd on just star i i feel like gilbert would have been far more of a draw against doctor dan than sharp way would you could feel ownerless sale was bored out of my mind from naturally rick did but you could definitely tell it was it wasn't what they wanted to have in that spot and i think just because of that it didn't work quite as well as you would hope it would i mean at the end of at the end of the match factor day wins it but we still get the the british sharp voiced on her crime goes home happy chuck way to get there till five thirty so god only knows how much time those guys even had to try to put something together before being what third on the card so so you know probably wasn't a great situation for dr dan there <hes> you know anyway you go out and i love dr dan he's absolutely one of my favorites so let's let's get into this next match and <hes> as was the last match where he went intermission for was it just me or the first half kind of short i felt like it went pretty quick so i think you know for i think it was only four matches yes or matches yeah so all right we started this off with jock samson manse warner and the duke versus p._b. smooth and horn swab i think what this announcing hashtag duke money so we were thinking jock and manse verses uses twins both a. p. m. e. p. m. e. p. b. and horns waddell nope turns out it's going to be a three two so the duke was added and huntsville he wanted to even things up he took the joke mariah out of mouth where he mentioned how you know it's unfair it was three onto or maybe one and a half on three <hes> which was kind of my thought p brought someone out who i think he did say she has has issues also with with the duke wasn't sure what to expect here we've already seen thorn cowboy bob orton cowboy bob orton was added to the match so then the match turn into man's jock and the duke versus p._b. smooth horns waddell and bob orton that really quick get to the finish forget the whole match p._b. horns waddell and orton the one by pimm fox <hes> this this this was cool i actually thought it was going to go along the lines of cowboy bob orton he'll turn like turns out he was he was in the duke's back pocket all along but no it was a face borton whole time would you just think about the addition of bob orton and the match start with rick loved it <hes> very happy to to see the cowboy in the ring i think he really enjoyed it i think he got kicked out of <hes> being asked to do it and the crowd the finish of the match the smuggle hitting manse with the arcadio got than i think i put this up on twitter just a giant pop i i was kind of astounded taken aback almost at the level of pop that got from the crowd <hes> there's a great great photo and i and i can't remember who took it but i know it's it's a hat you can at you can call me ron on twitter youtube his guy in m i don't remember the relation the photo of man's taking the arcadio from from or the diamond cutter also old gas from swaddled with alibaba just standing in the background you know that little nod to to randy orton and and <hes> i you know i don't know how many people in the crowd even got that connection it was kind of a kind of an odd thing but man the all i remember about this match is that finishing just how great that pop was so <hes> mister alberto you can take it from there i think the photographer's name was was it todd todd hawkins smith yeah i'm sure i'm sure packing to help us out with that once it's just like as you said that i kinda opened up instagram and there was a picture of dan house and from the show and i think it was from vat wrestler because it wasn't any of the fan photographers that i know it wasn't wayne in might be this dude a pill let us know our i we're gonna ask them right now but <hes> doesn't take over <hes> first and foremost i'd like to say you said as will like to call the diamond as us wrestling purist who know purely award truly is we know that it was created by the great johnny ace we actually call it the ace crusher but that's superhero were there too big things about this match that you guys may or may not know <hes> that's actually the second thing the first thing i'll say is i think that the ending would have been a lot funnier if swath a one for the cutter on manse warner like manslaughter like stood up to take it and like swaddled couldn't jump up again it and unlike peavy like picked him up mandated the cutter at the would have been kinda funny that's just a personal thing on my side of the field it has may not know smuggle said that they had another partner who has an issue with the duke and it was cowboy bob orton what you might not know is the issue that bob were actually has the do you know what it this now the duke folk broke bob morton's arm and that is part of the reason why they gets on there he broke it one of those times can stay on fact it's big day eh it's been confirmed yes the photographer's name is todd it is the the guy that i mentioned real sad so everybody knows now it's tat this match was a lot of fun bob morton went in there just hist when he he did way more than i expect a guy as old as bob morton to like as old as he is to do he did fantastic match had a great spots in it good comedy spots good wrestling spots it was it was a very very good match it was probably the best match of the first half of the car i could give it that i can give that that match was in the tokyo dome that's a five star i think as the whole the the first half really wasn't bad may be the whole shark boy matches wasn't as like i don't remember as much from it either but i still felt it was it was entertaining but yeah i think the other part of it too is as i'm sure talk about the second half of the show was just outstanding new stellar and i think that that kind of plagues the first half of the show because not that it was like a forgettable first-half but the second half was just so good read that kind of overshadowed anything else possibly happen before it so this led us into intermission so that leads us to our emission and we'll be right back right after these commercials <music> you wake up every morning get yourself out of bed and look in the mirror and realize that you don't recognize the person looking back you don't feel as holes you shut do you feel about half them getting your car and go about your daily activities and you think about all the opportunities that you missed opportunities didn't take doors you left close instead of you you think about all the things that you could have done and the things that you chose to do instead that's where i commit my name is dr daniel c rockingham and i am not only motivational speaker but i am a personal development coach and my three principal system has changed the 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gives us the production verses the weird world experience and make sure i got the name right weird body did not like that i called it that last week aac but <hes> yes you know the curtains open how comes the production and some of the i didn't vote on twitter because i think i was getting back to my seat a little bit late and i wanted to <hes> get all the tweeting i'm done joel gertner introduce the we're world experience and after he did he went on stage and dance with them that that that definitely was a tree and i think it if you have any questions about buying this on m._p. four if this is included then i i'd say that part might be worth it i've ever there's much more about the show that's great but that's like a little cherry on top what did you guys think about this match and joel gertner switch it up start with dustin shoal gertner is a national treasure and and if he was a member of the weird world experience every time i would be weekly okay with that <hes> them getting down on the stage a plus <hes> him guaranteeing the win and as always come through with his guarantee a plus this match very good <hes> the thing that's most to me was a very a big back rake spot and i talked to derrick about this i'm almost one hundred percent sure that the should be charges press because if you watch this back rake spot derek it's back creek so hard that even though he's the only person wearing a sting we're back is covered up he's in so much pain that it makes it look like the other guys but it just may be like prick their finger it looks like he definitely broke a toe stubbed toe he's in so much pain i don't know if you saw the picture he posted oh said <hes> there were definitely marks left there was definitely blood and i'm pretty sure at this point was assaulted putting it out there what do you got to rick the back rake yes everybody knows the win it's done correctly in is one of the most devastating maneuvers in the game <hes> i was i love joel gertner but i also remember watching you know you see w when it was on not one o'clock or two o'clock in the morning i was always a big gertner fan <hes> it was a little bit of a bomber when gertner did the well well well at the beginning and it just sounded like crickets in the room because a lot of the folks that were there just did not know who was <hes> so i was kind of a little bummed out by that <hes> personally i loved it <hes> him coming out with the weird world experience was probably the best place for him <hes> i know <hes> philly philly collins was telling me that <hes> gertner got a real kick out of the fact that philly marino are from erotic city is of that that put a big smile on joel gertner space <hes> philly hit a top rope suplex <hes> i remember that <hes> they hit the mat and it was loud gunshot went off in that place <hes> the impact on that that one <hes> that's about all i remember spot wise from the match <hes> the you know the the back rakes tremendous and i you know i i agree with dustin that's <hes> there needs to be investigation all right let's move onto which adenauer didn't talk about that you know real world experience did pick up a pin fall victory over the production but you know because they weren't on the line it's on how shit works <hes> production obviously still your tax champion so where where do we go from here when it comes to those tag titles and the other two teams multiday match scott of being a possibility that waltham possibility whether that and still wondering what we get a five on five will we add dan how's it into match maybe not hell on earth maybe the last show of the year baby art show in two thousand nineteen full five and when i still think before it's all said and done the next team to have those tag titles is going to be p. m. e. <hes> not sure where run or in what format matt it's going to happen but i think p._m. is eventually gonna russell <unk> away from the production head doesn't i don't know we've talked i heard you guys talking to pass that w tanking division is certain the rebuild itself again it's really good to see i'm not sure what's next for the titles i don't really see production losing anytime soon and i'm not really sure like i guess p._m. me would be like the the most obvious choice to get titles necks or most likely to win the titles next by who knows what the future holds in who's gonna who's gonna show up or i mean obviously it was going to be our cat and r._j. but huda some scheduling conflicts that couldn't happen who knows maybe they ended up being typed in champions they do have a lot of good chemistry they are real actors turn wrestlers knows their words not not judging and we don't know if that matches going to still go on but with a different tack partner i know at i._w._c. there was a similar match going on there tagging champions instead of arquette they put in cabana like i don't think we're going to get cabana but you know could we get some sort of <hes> under study for them i could do a spyder nate webb that'd be interesting thing i haven't heard teenage dirtbag like a month and a half i You Go. I doubt that will happen. I don't know just a weird name. Throw that I can't think of any buddy else off the top of my head I just I just hope it's a match that we see R._J.. City was at rubber city-khan ruining your chips speak to him mm-hmm but I I really hope he still going to be a part of Hell on earth because I want to see him and they I W for a little while and the I hope I really hope we get it so next match on all the show we had met justice justice versus. Tim Danced for the A._I.. W In tens championship before we get into to the end. What did you guys think of this match? Start with Dustin was always good. Tim Dons Slash met justice type matches where it becomes all out chaos and a brawl all over the place they both are really good at making their matches just fall apart and turn into trouble calf and I think that turned turned into exactly what this match was ensured a been and what made it a good match was they both did exactly what it is the mets they brawl they fight they. They do everything they have to win. They don't mind getting out there and get messy. They don't mind thrown thrown should around. They throw caution to throw their bodies to the win. They don't really care does an all out all out chaos nothing but fun doing what they did for the brand type match either you Rick Yeah <hes> basically the same thought you know met jumped off something high. <hes> I think at one point he was taking tim downside around on a pushcart and then a thrift store jobber makes his second appearance of the show as he hands <hes> Matt Justice a plexiglass box with a Vince McMahon beanie baby inside which Matt Justice that bounces off the dome of Tim Danced <hes> back in the ring and then <hes> you can take it from here with the finish Mr heavyset so <hes> I didn't have all this tweeted out but basically towards the end of the match. You know you had <hes> potato. We'll get knocked out. Other was no referee. Eventually Tom Dunn did come out and a little bit more back and forth but it ended up with Matt Justice Pinning dance to become the new A._i.. W. Intense champion and of course as all this is going on potato comes to and says no no no. He's not the winner I am the scheduled ref of this match and I have disqualified qualified Matt Justice so Tim Don's is still the w intense champion and it was a really cool swing because you had a one moment you thought like Don St- lost we don't we don't see short tolerance often and it was match us. It's getting the surprise victory to some becoming the new champion but you don't little bit dusty finish and Don's wins justice goes to a TAC attack. A dance dance goes for the rail jumps into the crowd. I met justice. He doesn't necessarily make a challenge. He says that he wants dance. At how on earth do they wasn't mentioned not q. or just the fact that it's not B._Q.. Anything goes no disqualifications no time women. No count outs anything what I think. This is basically what that match was anyway. 'cause I'm confused by but you know rustling I think too that match was well. The match that they won isn't that what used to be the hell on earth match. Wasn't there very little rules or at least the main event was supposed to be like a no rules match yeah. Sometimes they'd have like a answering the weapons tight match have like the rules match or there's some type of stipulation nation the my very first of you show was a hell on earth event was that kind of match it was mad man Pondo versus Masada that was actually I missed that show and then I was at nightmare nightmare before Christmas and then from there. I basically went almost mall. No that's not true. I missed a couple of shows from Jalen that next year I missed a handful of shows maybe sense daily. I don't think I met you totally l.. I. Twenty Thirteen but turned out like you had been coming way before me yeah never show ever was absolution which even on a side note <hes> before you jumped into our server our chat room whatever like I was the a veteran at W. Fan. I'm the one that had been around longer and now that you're there. It's like all right. Someone's else's now the veteran. I'm just I'm in second place by I forget the time just because I think you've been around a lot more long long because I was you know Hell on Earth twenty eleven yeah. I don't know what year what absolution by that was a look up. Look it up blakeway. That's gotta be like two thousand nine sounds all right. Two thousand nine sounds right. <hes> doesn't eight or nine solution doesn't ten he doesn't because I want to say Hell on earth and APPS initiative mission have the same number but it's like this year's Hell on earth is going to be the same number as next year's absolution so I think the first one I went to was Ho seven so that means twenty twenty twelve was absolution seven so absolution five would have been twenty ten so you had me about about two dozen term gave me a little by little over year but year and a half but you're now the veteran W.. Fan Matt me well in fairness to not that I want to downplay the fact that I've been going longer than you because I have been but like I went to absolution five and that was in two thousand ten by ain't good with show again Dan until I see an actual into teepee I night one. I knew T._p._i.. Yeah which was might have been like over a year later or it was almost a year later thousand eleven we had that was early. 'cause that was the pre-gala tournament yeah so that was in two thousand eleven and then I didn't go to my next show after that until 'til outside of actually that's not true either because in two thousand ten I think it was in two thousand ten first time that a w did work <unk> <unk> yeah I was at I was at one of those Tuesday's my watch some shows there so I guess I guess that was between there too and then I saw many experts potato verse Gargano and then which after that was Jalen and then pretty much everything after that Jeff I forget what number that was a nightmare before Xmas but that was the last one because the year after that was end of the world 'em it's been just a repeat of different things every repeat of different things but we're going to do a different type of thing for the Christmas. I think they're more nightmare Christmas after that because it would have been two thousand no twelve on all you're right twelve was the end of the world which was brilliant. The fact that I it was on the day that the world was supposed to end yes very smart. I thought that that was a fun show and also the snow was terrible terrible that fucking day. I remember anyway enough with the past. Let's talk about still the past but let's talk about this match. As we move onto dominic greenie versus Eddie Kingston this this match did happen and Eddie Kingston by one be a pinball and he challenged the winner of the main event more on that later. What what did you guys feel about this match the the fact that it actually happened start with Dustin? Did you say Eddie Kingston any win yeah by bad I mean I miss the end of that match. I don't know how I did. I thought I want for some reason. Isn't that was the match interesting. It was good from what I remember. Actually I wasn't paying a ton of attention. During this match <hes> I definitely liked a lot of the Lalla chain stuff don was doing with Eddie. I really like when Eddie works with like an anime guy because it always he does really good feeding. He knows knows what he's doing because he has a little bit of a trainee background. I don't know how much you guys know fat but like he's trained at some really nice saw some really good gyms down in Orlando and Disneyworld yes postage transit disneyworld but no easy trained at some gyms on Orlando. He's he does a very good job working with guys like that. Guys like trip as like a dumb like I think it was everything was real clean. It was really good match like that I must I don't know how I missed. The end of it. I was I was having a conversation and I must have just lost the concentration on it but it was it was is pretty match. Mike and Remember it was a good match. I can see how you lost gration. <hes> I felt like the crowd wasn't really that into it. <hes> not because of of the guys in the ring. I just think it was <hes> we had just seen you know the the you know Bob Morton before intermission. You've seen the weird world experience was kind of a you knew this was going to be a matt based <hes> more of North old school wrestling match in two guys who can who can do it all on the mat and they had a good match. You know nothing wrong with the match but it wasn't like you know Nieto's flippy do. Do you know exciting kind of spots as you know. This was a wrestling match in the truest sense of it and I just felt like maybe everybody in the crowd was not as engaged <hes> with this as they were with some other ones so <hes> I think one thing that happens is sometimes the match before it will take a lot of energy from the crowd and justice for sedans was up. No Pun intended a very intense match and we go into this match which wasn't going to be you know the same kind of style and sometimes I think that is the reaction that you that we get why I thought maybe in this as we were talking about it in you're in our seats to is the the finish of the match before was kind of a letdown you know you ma- justice announces the winner and then potato pops back up and asked legs up you know with the Deke on everything so it Kinda brings the green up pops the cried up and then kinds of brings them all the way back down so then we're starting on that downward slope for the next match <hes> not the high of the title change which quickly devolves and just a hate of potato not just that the two I think that at this point to I I mean I wasn't there for the can but it had been a pretty long day if you were there for the entire thing and <hes> I mean I I was kind of exhausted by today but I'd only China helps somebody move into my house that day but I mean I was pretty. I was eating getting Kinda tired by the end of the night. That's I didn't even stay at the after party all that all that long I was house reviewed us go home but <hes> I think that I think I think match what he just kind of been a victim of like what it was in. Where was the car nothing nothing else that everything? Let's let's get into this next match because I it's one of those things I got that it was on the card and I was thinking like all right you know after we get the we intense idle match and then we get this match. The title match has got to be next and actually think Pedro did at one point he announced how many matches we had left and he was off. I believe I was like wait a minute. That's another reason why I forgot about this. Particular match we had Andrew Everett Indeed Jay Z.. Versus Chase Oliver and trae Lamar this matches exactly what you would expect it as sometimes I'm sitting here watching these shows and I'm taking some you know instagram story videos for people to enjoy at home. This is one of those that there's just so much coach going on. I mean there. There were other ones you'd have to scramble match was won. The production match was another one. This was just complete utter. <hes> you know what you're you're high flying and everything and just a lot of lot of shit. What did you guys think about this start with Dustin? It was a real good flippity Doo match I was it was it was really good. It was action beginning to end law knit. I did a really good job will bring the crowd back. It didn't hurt that I'm pretty sure every single member of Famer Mars family and any even relatively close family friend was there there was a lot of a Lotta people crowd there for trey and chase lovable never chase to say was I was happy for trae. Though I don't know trae that well I do know that he wasn't as happy as he could've with his match against sees at last Akron show and this match was above and beyond what you would expect it to be all four guys. `Let's at such a quick pace and if you get really moved back up brought everybody back together the kind of it was it was very good. There's not much you can say besides very good trae Lamar almost one of those those catches legs on the barricade moment that Kinda makes you cringe. You didn't even fan I added is a hell of a match. I I asked is trey about that and yeah. I didn't realize this there was a fan in the front row. I think I know which one it was not an not air w regular I think he's more VAT Akron Base Fan. I think the only time I've ever seen him before was at at the last Akron show but as trays in the air he pushed the guard rate for guard rail forward because I asked about having my afterwards has feeling everything then he he kind of mentioned that like you know as he was like like mid rotation. He's solved the do push it forward and I. I think that's fucked up but he like. I said he wasn't regularly W.. Fan and I want to insult the guy or anything but I I always say that. It's the fucked up. Move guys anything you WANNA add. I well the what you said. What trace at is under present ACURA? I was sitting on the end of the row so I was you you know sitting at a ninety degree angle to that front rail and I sat while he was in the air. I saw the same thing just the two handed shove of it <hes> so I know exactly who you're talking about and you're absolutely right with your assessment that that's pretty pretty messed up. <hes> I was really really impressed with Ziani. I felt like they were just absolutely flawless like everything they did was perfect. Just perfectly sank perfectly in time you know if you're sometimes with matches like this. You're just just kind of looking for something that's aw- or something that's messed up and there was just nothing to be found a even with the with chasing trae as a tag team. They're getting more of a tag team <hes> more of a tag team vibe about him. Sometimes you'll get two guys will get together and they have two singles wrestlers acting in a tag team as opposed to being a tag team. I feel like you know they're focusing on double team stuff <hes>. <hes> you know the starting job to dress like in their starting to Gel or as a team so I'm looking forward. They're GONNA I think they're going to be a mainstay in the tag division for what if these guys are the ones that beat the production I'm okay with it and a post-match chase oliver and trae Lamar after the you know they they did pick up the victory via pimple. They tried to get handshake from both D._J.'s e danger Everett. They acted like they are going to accept but rock right past them so oh I don't know th there's more to come because technically you know. This is like part two in a story that started with you know chase oliver aren't entrees Albert trae Lamar and disease so our word where we're going for peer. Maybe we get guys you know. Maybe we end up with a TAG team scramble type. You know the Z. With the Ziani with chasing trump p._m.. The production in maybe we get a four way for the tag titles in the future. I'd beaten to that. That's that's a solid match. There's even a lot of teams that we don't see as much anymore or maybe we do. I mean they're you know learn other matches. You know we can't forget about about you know the floodgates. We can't forget about you know the former he added you tag team champions to infinity and beyond like there's there's a lot of other things I still want best. He's in the world to come back one more time. That was one of my favorite aver surprises of the year because I think mainly because twenty four hours prior to that I was having a conversation with somebody about Davey Vega and I was like I wish Awa book him again and then literally the next day piece here so so that was the best I was so excited loved love them and love to see them back again but <hes> w just his bid a completely different landscape over the past couple of years and Pesha the past year. There's been just those type of matches and opportunities where yet now we don't announce every single match so we you get surprised matches and sometimes that match that doesn't get announced is going to have a debut of someone we haven't seen yet and maybe we have a surprise match and and there's a return of somebody we haven't seen in a long time that's kind of what are those reasons. Why you don't WanNa miss an ad? Have you show because you don't know what you're GonNa Miss Anyway. Let's get in to to the main event of the evening. Joshua bishop versus hot sauce Tracy Williams for the a w absolute championship and <hes>. How'd you feel about this main event match? We'll start with rick. I absolutely loved it. I think Josh completely stepped his game up. <hes> I know he was nervous. You know crap in his pants all day long about being there with hot sauce <hes> <hes> Trey Williams as the definition of veteran so you know as far as that goes. I feel like <hes> Josh showed a lot. We had a hundred probably hundred people in the old Bishop Brigade maybe overshooting it but <hes> quite a few people there to see him. <hes> with matches like this sometimes you'll get <hes> an overabundance of false finishes and it just it starts to take something away <hes> this match had to that I remember <hes> false finishes. Both you know for for Bishop with Tracy getting out at the last second of them and they both were believable to where you genuinely thought that could have been the end of the match. <hes> you know a good use of those by those guys good crowd reaction <hes> definitely think <hes> you know I wasn't happy with the outcome to see Bishop. Go over but then the post-match <hes> you of course match angle made it all make sense <hes> you know and definitely a it's nice that we have it as organization that worries about continuing storylines you know it's not just matches for the sake of matches so I was. I was very happy when I was all set about you. Dozen Josh just gets better and better start looks better in better time he goes out there. He's getting better and better every time he goes out there he showing doing a lot of a lot of growth every time you see him. Tracy Williams raw him to his level as much as Josh did step up. I think Tracy did a lot to elevate. <unk> Russian turned Josh into a legitimate threat for a title and a legitimate main of enter in that match like was it was great to see something like that for A._i.. W W. student in his hometown against the guy like that who many people consider one of the best if not the best Basler indies right now and it was really cool <hes> scary moment of the match face <unk> Kick Josh official right MMA throat and <hes> I was like a bat look Gross Alevis caught it but it was very gross so oh this match ended with hot sauce <hes> pinning Joshua Bishop and we kinda thought it was all over but how come dominant Greenie attacking Joshua Bishop and we did have <unk> hot sauce Kinda you know run off a little bit and shook hands with which I think even before dom came out there. was you know a bit of Tracy Williams putting over Joshua Bishop which is cool sound talking about well. You know how you know how hard fought battle that he had so so what we have going on to hell on earth right now is Eddie Kingston versus Australia Williams for the w absolute absolute championship in. I'm guessing in a dominant Josh if not this show coming up. This has to be something that we we see more of that up in the I think it's just the the next step in dom beating up training people to help train any final thoughts on that rick yet. You know what I'm looking forward to both of those matches so like I said the the outcome of the batch was not what I was. I was hoping for but at the same time the angle made it the angle made it <hes> more time <hes> and and definitely worth the energy to me that was expended in the watching Mr Bishops take the owl <hes> looking forward to that data line Tracy and and Eddie and then maybe the winner of Dominic in <hes> bishop the gets a run at whoever comes out of that <hes> that Tracy Eddie masks so you you know we we definitely have a direction we we could be going imagine Eddie Kingston become an absolute champion. I can imagine it. I mean you know I I F- he's got another run in them. It would be a beautiful they'd been captured the effluent all right. That's pretty much at any <hes>. How'd you guys feel about this? Show as a whole from beginning to end think we'd we'd do the letter ratings here start with Ricke aw it was a solid a solid solid show the whole experience. If you know forgo take the day as a whole I would probably go. Maybe an a minus to to a B. Plus kind of <hes> kind of rating. I think <hes> I think John learned a lot. I think the you know the organization if they decide to do this in the future <hes> you know this kind of proof of concept thing this see whether or not this was viable and they can actually do it. <hes> I think they succeeded. I think you know he has already talked about you. Know not even starting the meat grease till four five o'clock next year and then running into <hes> into the show but you know what it was solid. Let solid show I I'd probably go anus. How about you so I can't speak? I'm a whole day I can speak purely on the show and I can also kind of base it on how I saw the crowd Joey through the day. I think that it's like a C plus e minor show that's not to take take away from the show the like we talked about how the first half wasn't amazing. I think the Gilbert Gilbert thing getting cancelled in the becoming charge through that whole thing else in cavers fe Jackson's the really good wrestling match you add your typical head of you. Scramble math adding Bob Morton was a really good addition to that last match may special foot beside bath. There wasn't any great moment before Bob Morton came out. I think that kind of heard the beginning the show no coming out of intermission we had <hes> it was the now that I'm losing track of life. Aw was the eight man tag match. It was a lot of Lada energy energy loss of going on right out of that we go into Don Spurs justice lot of energy a lot of stuff going on and then like I said the energy Kinda died around the Kingston Dom match. I think that the long day kind of killed the crowd and the next match picked it up again. The main event had to be picked up basically because fifty eight percent of the crowd sowed was Josh Bishop fans so they were going to be into it no matter what I will give you. The matches were the best matches anybody's ever had. I'd say matches the night was probably that tag match with no consequences Mrs and <hes> and like I said Seem C.. Plus B. Minus Holly closer to the B minus just because there weren't any like stinker horrible matches outside of maybe Dr Dr Dan I charge boy but you talked about there. Were a lot of extenuating circumstances so why wasn't as good as it possibly could have been very lengthy review from that one. That's what I'm here for hi. It's okay things down. I let people now it's okay. He hadn't been on since April so there was for the time thing of our rate it. I'll actually do in separate parts all right this show probably about A. B. Minus and then I'd probably give the con about a C minus D plus like there's only one person I was actually interested in that. I've never met before and the fact that you know we have to get pulled out or he pulled out whatever the bucket was and even the rumors beforehand. It was supposed to be the outsiders before that like I was hype for the outsiders as a whole but you take away Scott Hall my fucking. I've never met Kevin Nash. I really WanNa meet Kevin Nash. Let I'm still in on this but taking him out and putting him Booker T. who already met and the only real name that I was like ooh. I really want to see this person. is you know tugboat. Typhoon Wound Chalk Nassar that was it I had no interest in Kelli Kelli no real interest in Bob Orton <hes> no interest really enjoyed Gertner so that that that part kind of sucked. Nobody was Kinda cool that there was plenty of time. I didn't feel like I had really rushed to the venue. I still you know try to get in as quick as I could to. You know put my spot down of where I wanted to be but you know that that was that there was still like I said plenty of breathing room so now that's why like a lot of people left you know was really mentioned you know Rick had mentioned this the middle part and and then I missed the middle partout we both went separate ways but but still some people left and came back <hes> the show though I didn't think was that bad <hes> I don't know how it would rank to the the first one. I think the first one might have been better. I think maybe just how things worked doubt that time of the year at W. put on a little bit better card for Akron this time it didn't fell a little short than that but I felt like <hes> Bishop and Williams was is a great match and I felt like danced and you know justice was a great match. The though the I didn't like about the first half probably was the doctor Dan Shark boy match had nothing to do with Dr Daniel was a little bit more sharp boy but I still think it was a very very enjoyable show show and then of course being so close to home that that helped it out for me so he I give it a like I said about a about a B minus so <hes> yeah that will do it for us here any final thoughts or less minute plugs before we go back nope. It's always a pleasure to be here. I am on the twitter machine. <hes> that's about all I do. I'm I'm pretty boring about you doesn't <hes> you it. Follow me on Gramatica. Follow me on twitter at Repton <hes> I`Ma single now as Steve Guy. Let everybody know end escape from Cleveland. Nah The demons roping ladies. He's as Steve Guy said it's a joke. I don't really care PPM year not <hes> but yeah just find me on those things I'll be on this again more often. Be normal a normal gusty awesome. 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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 101: 7 Year Itch Back In Parma! (Preview)

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Wrestling Cheers- Episode 101: 7 Year Itch Back In Parma! (Preview)

"And now an ad from dad right save money on car insurance when you bundle home and auto with progressive guy take these right. What is this looks good wow? Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair yeah. Where did you get good stuff solid? That's not veneer that solid stuff progressive can't save you from becoming your parents but we can't save you money when you bundle home and Auto Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and other insurance discounts not available in all states or situations yeah and you're listening wrestling tears world draw your our lives away. Sometimes you WANNA go where everybody John in trouble on you WanNa go <music> and welcome back to wrestling cheers where everybody knows your name specially during a seven year itch didn't really think about that one too much anyway. This is wrestling chairs. We like to talk about things going on in the northeast of out independent wrestling seeing preview shows we review shows on sometimes we even have interviews along the way hey this is a preview episode for this Friday's A._A.. W show seven year itch featuring a special guest appearance from Billy Kidman and this is going to be at John the Baptist Bay Zayn Zayn <unk> John the Baptist at twenty w called Byzantine Byzantine something Byzantine John the Baptist Byzantine Hall so it's just called John The baptist. That's what air W insane John's he was gone Saint John's Saint John's well John the Baptist whatever anyway the Friday show hey w I'm your host. I am summer's been going back for heavyset heavy said it's just a fucking habit. We've already gone off the rails already but yeah we're four. We get into everything. Let's go to contact information. Please rate reviewing subscribe on apple podcasts Google podcast Ichard tune in youtube spotify iheartradio pod wrestling cheers that pod bean dot com would find on facebook twitter instagram facebook dot com slash racing cheers twitter dot com slash wrestling cheers instagram dot com slash wrestling cheers email. If you so choose a desire wrestling cheers at gmail.com we have the merge store over at what a maneuver dot net and I can't forget we are brought if you buy a trending topics network Midwest territory dot com in key on sports. Let's get into the panel. Let's get in there but like I said I'm your host. I am summers for me notice heavyset or also notice heavyset. Whatever join this week thank you? You've already heard him both but we'll start off. We have stacey `Amenaza going going good. If I can pronounce Shit Yeah Visit Team isn't the tricky one. What's Byzantine Metal Band West Virginia so is that how you do know also the Byzantine him? I don't know that we want to spend the time training this into history class. I know who John the Baptist was but it's it's not really hard to figure out who he was but anyway so we also have patrick hey what's going on. It's nice to finally have you back on. I've been gone for a while. I'm dealing and deal. I do another podcast so tired. Hard targeted got less stuff going on like I don't know if you're I think the big thing was like your job. Sima changes available. Almost every Tuesday could be wrong but the way I got a new job okay so now I'm trying to you go back and forth between according days so if people can just be on Monday Tuesday trying to spread it around so it's just not like now sorry we can't record on your day so yeah. It's all right again. I appreciate it. I'm back here I am I wanted at the be here. I still want to do an episode me you in him. Preview reviewing a show so it's basically Pod van Damme by me and we're not talking about hogs and cater for triple h or anything let's talk about you should just the chemistry is fun to attack some hogs yesterday his episode Man Hey. It's not my show. I can't control it. I just I'm along <unk>. Sometimes I encourage him but most time it's all his I feel like with Ed. Were always just along for the ride. It's whatever go anyway this Friday seven year hitch special appearance comes from Billy Kidman. Are you guys going to get a Masha <unk> Zealander too many but like what are you guys lots on Billy Kidman company W I think it's a fucking awesome opportunity for anybody who does that seminar honor that I mean he's a current W._w.. Producer and was fantastic entering guy <hes> billy kidman school men. I'm I think it's a cool different guy to bring in different than bringing in legends agents and stuff. He's a guy who was a little more recent a little more recent but I almost want to say he's a legend but I don't know just I'd still be involved with that company for as long as he has granted a lot of it's now been behind the scenes like that's that says a lot about who you are a your own right. There's a lot of people I think w that can vouch for but knowledge of Billy Kidman at the thing to understand this from any point of. I think I've mentioned on the show before when w has these seminars. I don't know y like Rustler's from one hundred mile radius or maybe even just fifty mile radius aren't jumping at the to do this and it seems like it's harder to even get the ad w students in there it's Kidman. It's aren't Anderson is like thank you should go no matter what like unless you're somebody like. I don't know like Johnny towards the end like okay. Maybe you don't need but there's how many people in this area are like that at that level. I don't think anybody I've taught my head Ed. I know dudes from Pittsburgh but I've been telling they should go for since that was announced. I don't know if they signed up or not. They showed of what are your again do that meet and greet nail. I the man I'm weird on meet-and-greet. It's gotta be it's going to be somebody like it'd be La- Parka. Hey Hey bring up scary. Scout Scares Skeleton Man brings up bad memories the skippy Skilton thank God we're in the balcony for spring break. Disease GonNa be at spring break. I'm like man I won't be able to reach the balcony. Man You can throw ship pretty far think we grow how do the meet and greet with Kidman if he came out wearing like some real God's Shit like when he was in flack or whatever yeah I guess yeah he's going to be like these. He's probably gonNA be like straight. Place looking wears a suit now for W._W._e.. He'll probably pretty normal looking right now. I guess I'll say what you guys is favourite Kidman theme. I'M GONNA go along the lines of what dominant Greenie said on the W podcasts as we I like the W._W._e.. FEM- I always compared to like the dude almost sounds like B._M._x.. What he's not I love the I don't know? I don't really have a favor than those themes at all. None of them really grabbed me. Term me neither either. I mean my my favorite. Given period is like the W._C._W.. Raven slot period. I feel like that's that's the two periods that people remember. It's either when he was in W._W._e.. or it was the flock after he left the flock <unk> knows many people who are like all that was. That's the best kit. That's only how that's only how I know him. I don't remember as W._B._Z.'s the only thing I remember the theme as much but I know there was he might I had been light. Heavyweight champion occurs champion at that time they had both for awhile could have been unlike caved in like the older. I get the more like Lotte those memories just Kinda like lumped together and I'm like I can't remember but then I think about it again like well. Maybe it was this kind of. I feel about Kidman stuff with other things. I think a lot of his stuff like that. Period is when I kind of was watching wrestling as much like after two thousand three he ended up watching. I think the Mid-2000s to the late two thousand were kind of a weird slump. There's things that I remember but there's things that I don't know I had it wasn't watching for a long long game time personally yeah. I watched T._N._A.. More for like some of that time than I did watch W._W._e.. Granted I know this w podcast that's something I wanna get more on is lot of the impact stuff right now. How the I feel like everything's like five to ten years to lay but I feel like everybody they've been signing up and things that they've been doing all this kind of this really is different promotion but now they have to shake off the stigma them and if you know Josh Alexander's Sanders now sign with them and if he can get a visa and everything that's I happy for the do I love Josh Alexander Yeah? I just wish impact. I've gotta find a better way to watch it than how I am his that twitch stream unfunded watchable. I think I have their new channel but it's how they the the shows programmed must. I knew it was like four thirty minutes. Spots just never home when it's on yeah I tried to watch it on twitch <hes> this past Friday and like instead of going to commercials at think they cut to this lives thing. It's manhandle now. It's hard to watch the wrestling's good like what they have owned is fine but just the way the stream setup is bizarre like all right. Let's get into this show and much like our regular format we do for previews. We're GONNA take three matches or talk about him. mm-hmm and then we'll go into picks on all the matches end the let's start with Zach Thomas Versus Eddie Kingston a rematch. If if you will from the December December show where we did have a four-way match in these were the last two left after Don and bishop disappeared and I don't know about you guys but I thought Zach Thomas had a very good showing came up short but still look tough against Kingston and now we have an official one on one rematch. What are your thoughts on that Stacey matchup looking forward to the most actually on the Oh coward <hes> I used to guys are are perfect to go up against each other and the December show that little chunk that you got made me want to see a whole match so yeah dude? I think this is going to be tough. I think it's GonNa be a lot of like stiff forearms and elbows launches and chops and it's going to be fucking Ross. It's going to be good. I'm pretty jazzed for you. Saw Go at it like you said a little bit and he held L. Design that will see him in a full match where you know their tensions both focused on each other but also <hes> if if it's true when Eddie said you know a little while ago how this is convenient. He's done air pretty soon. You may not get to see too many more times good to get a couple more for sure. That's very true. I'm a huge fan of Eddie. Kingston especially in A._W._S.. Is GonNa suck to see him go but like he has for the past like what three four years most of his matches have been against like students or I don't necessarily say rookie but let's say I one or two years and helping to make a lot of these these guys better and Greenwich Zach Thomas Still within his first year after the w debut but he's actually been around a lot longer than that. This is help putting a lot of work on Zach Thomas in he's the I would say. He's like this underdogs star in A._W._S.. Like the last class and he's he's willing to stand up by. All means are like Nice guy to a good kid. He's impressed me the most out of the last group for sure I think he was just because the experience he had before it made him a little more ready than the other guys right out the gate yeah and he like he's stepped up huge like this is a big match for him and I think these two are going to like match fucking night. I think we'll be these. Two Eddie's amazed I will be super fucking bums if Eddie Kingston actually retires. I would like to have a fucking title. W You know what I would like to see any do a w slap a drunk stupid fan like he did A._W._O._l.. Everybody see that fucking great Utah did why why I don't know why you go to a wrestling show and it's in think you're going to do something to like a talent person like okay. Let's say you do decide that of all people you pick that guy at you test his gangster that guy the man you our brain that dude is I guess he's like a notorious fan that I guess that guys like they're all the time is is kinda known for being like a Ding Dong so I saw another clip that look like it was that same fool gotten the answers face to yeah right. It's that same guy. Those are the two dudes you pick up right man. We Bantu Nick Gage. That's the thing about this actor Anthony. That's the thing about nick as like outside of the ring. The Dude is like super fucking Nice but I think if you guys are really Puckett fuck out but I think if you would disrespect nick gage a dude prison is in like I don't know you fuck and killed. Just don't disrespect evil hearts. That's just that's a boy but yet no that idiot hey man. We've had some Tom sure that's what I'm saying. Sophie retires. We won't get to see any slap. Somebody I really dude remember wrestle nature fucking Barclay nation in Kingston and the one like through beer ear was I think it was through beer accusation and fucking Kingston `bout fuck and went nuts. He got close but yeah so if he retires we'll never get that moment. which is the real bummer great general but yeah I mean I I would think outside of Barclay nation? The only person that is probably the most drunk at shows would be fucking Kenny Wang. Kenny Wang has been around very holds all now he drunk in a different way it is yeah. The Front disrespectfully. I feel like you'll eventually get like a one off. San Who just came there and didn't know really you know didn't realize they're the asshole and goes over the line. Eventually you're going to run into his AD. That'd be getting big enough where people are just bringing their friends ends ear there and eventually you know we haven't had vera bigger. Mount Carmel Shows for Awhile so let me see think about it so right when that's the thing to Kenny Wang just yells loud shit about judge Bishop or fight the anybody anybody everybody's justices boy to try to start shit with anybody gallon right sand so it's GonNa eventually be. It'll just be like a random fan. WHO's not really a wrestling fan? We'll eventually say something but I guess that got like I said that guy in A._W._S.. Like a Non Ingo maybe maybe a certain fan has kind of a looks like a Leprechaun or get drunken start shit with Ethan page again. I don't see that happening. He has behaved himself very well Clinton shells in he. I have not heard of keeps from that guy. I haven't heard one homophobic slur out of him. I mean like yeah. It's pretty take what he said was pretty fucked up but I guess if he's still gonNA come or at least the shots mouths and he he's not a hard do dimiss. He's pretty recognizable. I think may maybe the fact who is he. It has a target on his back everyb- it's not like <hes> we're GonNa forget who he is like. There's there's a particular fan who years ago jumped Americade at W. and the Chris Brothers like kipness block and head like legit he that carried carried out and he ended up having good hospital 'cause he had a concussion. The dude was banned from here to be for a long time but he has randomly showed up at shows. It could be possibly because how long it's been but I don't know it was a big of a target on his back. The only got his fucking ahead kickin. This new says the wrong shit like also everybody was looking at him during the incident. He's a recognizable dude in yeah your new now have a target on your back. I wouldn't say the target on his mind since apologize for it and like I said he hasn't said anything so it is what wasn't great what he said but he like instead he used as far as I know he like apologized and like you know hasn't say anything since so what you know I'm not the judge. The jury had a big Fan of is but I'm not saying he can't come around and giving ws money when I say target I'm just mean you're kind of watching him. Oh Yeah I know who he is what he I also did that way prior to that because the recognizable looking guy he is films before no not Horn swaddled wrong lessons about the original all right. Let's move on to Tim. Don's versus filthy Tom lawler this is one of the matches that was announced before the last show and this okay don I would say he hasn't been around awhile allow but he was a December show has just been awhile since obviously since that show filthy Tom lawler coming back with a vengeance and we've heard a promo for the next show challenging P._B.. Smooth for the absolute championship so now he's going up against former my two three times four. I don't even know how many at this point how many times he's a former champion but does Tim don's fall victim to filthy. Tom lawler rethink stacey. Oh boy a visit another match. It's just all rematch on the shows. There's a lot of fucking crazy matches. Yeah I I mean I know we're not doing to fix right now but I feel like Tom. Our that's a that's. That's a tall fuck in order for dots man on span but yeah I. I don't know that you and make it through Tom Waller yeah. He's had some barn burner recently only if you think about it right the Gina Ladder mattress crazy than the justice match was crazy. I I wanna say what evolved though the matches we pick for match of the year dont`a was between those two Matt's the book ads for his intense title title run and as a guy who yeah I don't paint myself as Tim Don's fan just because said he's a guy I like to boo but I have nothing legitimately bad to say about him and love him dance dance your boy I never I just like the boom I just see for me I think I think it's interesting that the Promo has came out of lawler calling out T._v.. He would we not to get ahead of anything or whatever but we assume that the P._B.. Maps is going to be is their match. Is there have a match on this card eighty dollars. He's defending against M. J US M J F cell so he's there so. Do you see if what if <hes> P._B.. Comes out in you know in does run in on law so that gets the win you know. B._B.'s not that kind of guy though as he vis a house he's good dude right. I feel like he is but this is also feels different from P._B.. Like after winning this title or even faulk. Let's just say for instance. He goes into the match at Semenya weekend loses and then all of a sudden. This is a new P._B.. In this Warsi now could be a precursor to all of that. There's there's been a little bit of a different attitude with P._b.. Yeah Yeah So. Maybe maybe that's how lawler goes down Dan store. I don't know maybe dance beats him straight up. I don't know I looked on. I don't see it happening because I think bill `this. The wave of the future we'll see is the man yeah but <hes> yeah. I don't icy icy filthy women here personally. We're not in picks yet. I know but I don't. I think what the Promo coming out already. It's it's it's really a thrown wrench things. I think I think I've said those both ways anti call myself. I think to what you're saying. Absolutely I feel like with him already having his eye on main your weekend. I can't see him losing this right. I don't feel like this is this can be a sweet show. There could be allowed to outcomes. That's why I say you have to go to every w show no matter what venue in said how many people aware it's at whatever ever 'cause thorns getting crafty. He's doing crafts. You gotTA show up. You never know what's going to happen. The thing dom in dance defense his that doesn't die. He doesn't go away. That's true and you're going to have to see filthy taller pull out his best against a guy like dance <hes> thing too I was thinking where does the crowd lioness because Don's is one of the oddly most polarizing favorites w where people that love him and people that hate him and the for the past like what two three years where it's just been completely divided by fans and I'll tell you walkman being on the Tim fucking dot side of those chance. It's not quite as even as you make it out to be. I think a lot more anti there is pro and I looked Don's is three time absolute you one time intense cheer okay so probably one of the most decorated A._W._S. at least at least in the company now yeah currently with them for sure. I would say one of so this is this would be statement win from Filthy Tom. I would say so yeah like I'm going to. We're not we're not into picks now. It is hard to pick against Don's especially in this type of match. This is another match with you guys who are going to beat the Shit at Oh yeah but I wonder we're this'll be on the card like right before intermission or something. I don't know I'm thinking second-half second-half started off at yeah I'll go with that's the thing to as of this recording. We only have seven matches that sounds about right but there could definitely be more like we don't have a scramble match. We only have one tag match and obviously Veasley couple students but there's could be more so I have no idea or we have no idea what's going on. I I did reach out. The Thorn didn't get anything back so we have at least seven matches. I feel like you'll probably see some new people bill based on that new talent saying they had <hes> in a kind of alluded to talk to a lot of people. Some didn't fit on the last show but maybe they will for the show. I bet you'll see at least one or two new people this one I would. I would assume the same thing <hes> the other thing into that you think about is like I don't know how big this room is supposedly slayer right so if it's smaller less people through the doors so you know they sold honored last target. I'm maybe add on but yeah they the hunter less tickets but the room school I mean it's not he adds but <hes> I liked is cool Scott that like small Cherchi grew like gymnasium feel to it. You've been there already the company any that <unk> rip them off for money. Did one show there that I wanted to. <hes> okay Giannella. was there any used a little kid in like missile dropped him into <hes> Harry toothpick pick. What's his name T. J. T. Smith J._D.? Smooth or a lease up guy you sent one guy's name since you guys went on the review episode really quick. What were your thoughts on some of the new U.? W. Talented came out of that seminar. This cool that <hes> elect this guy's a boomer Hatfield and the other guy forget his other his tag team partners name because he has cool Huckabee yeah they were good Cabana man. Dan Cool echoes good liked his thing. He's like different. You know don't have anybody w van a man Dan a lot. I like flop jobs. I'll tell you what man I seem Liam wardlow Russell unfortunately a bunch of times over the last few years and the dude that I saw wrestle over the past two years and the Dude Esau Wrestle and Akron <hes> dudes with two different fucking skill sets he he has improved hundreds and hundreds of percent as a as a injuring performer. I was shocked at how much better that dude was 'cause. I still think his name's dumps but he definitely won't say his face because he is a large gentleman. Sure that's cool. You GotTa dumping is on his real name <hes> yeah that's a real name right yeah. I don't think you just pick it. I mean that's like Rybeck level like it's bad it's bad but he's really fucking. I think the overwhelming thing is commanded mundane. He got over as Faulk and I'm. I'm still so happy that that's that was the outcome of Doodoo. You know travel away from Alabama to to do this. Try Out. The big thing was Dang. Alabama said that's far in you might feel the answer this for me though because I think you guys said you've seen this guy that Lee Moriarty yeah he's aware that mass all the time that masked was hard as take off man that was sweet. I was real happy for we. I've seen me wrestle a bunch to Lee's good. I'm glad that you gotTa Shot Mass that he wore was tie like that was cool as hell lease one of those dudes who's been just chomping at the bid on the Indians just a bit by bit and I think he was like one of the few during the was it the L._A.. Park seminar or the Ultimo drag he was like the only non w wrestler and I think that says a lot of the dude who does what a lot of people should and took his opportunity to be a w and killed it. It was nice to Sealey Moriarty on a show where the other people he was wrestling were a similar skill levels because the shows I've seen him on previous that was generally not the case at least for his match. There were other dudes work in the show that were of that same level or better <hes> but those you know those smaller indie shows a lot of guys like we moriarty end up in there with a guy who's you know pretty green and so it was cool to see him get to do some shit with people where he could actually do some shit wish you wouldn't kept that mass ano- sweet. Uh let them know like a kick ass like pan the look in tiger thing. Something was tight the last match that we're GonNa talk about kind of little transition when it comes to that kind of seminar we have the A W intense title-match matthew justice versus Dominic Greenie <hes> I. I love match justice but I'm not GONNA lie. I would love to see dom walkaway way victorious but I don't think that's going to be easily not to mention the feud with Bishop is still looming. That's still around. Possibly maybe interference from them but I don't know what do you guys thank. Ah Start with Patrick <hes> this is going to be this is going to be a good a good match. Justice has been killing lately. I obviously diamonds also in a pretty hot <hes> hot streak here but I wasn't on the review episode of the last Ackerman show so I gotta ask Kevin Thorn <unk> called them. The Boehner collector like Oh shit was that was that maybe one of the best in Ring Burns of all time like that was pretty pretty good. Man is laughing pretty hard that anybody know nobody else like. I did not resonate the same. Oh man that not the bone collector like that's the easiest C._B._S.. Like no how come no one's ever said that nominaux in the airports good but when he like wetback to it like forty times like you know that dude when he said like a kid says funny again alas and that he you just keep saying it because he thinks people keep Latham but they vow time you was like a votre. It's like I thought filthy tiny thing with Boehner owner collector. He didn't come out and say it. It was when he was coming out to taunt dom okay what he was good. That is forget that it made me laugh I duNNo. I made me laughs because he will. He threw well. He threw bone <unk> through bones at I was thinking more Boehner but this is gonna be nuts though I mean I don't think we'll see <hes> I think dame's GonNa try and make them. You Know Matt Wrestling so I think we may see a different different style out of justice but if it does <hes> we have seen dom get out of the ring in Brawley we saw him brawl with Nancy <unk> Barbara Style so he can definitely Dobkin definitely brawled away. <hes> justices GonNa want to so does break down I think. Donald B okay cyber. None of us probably have the answer to this but every Matt Justice match easy w rules now that is just on the table like he's just defending that belt that way now <music> out 'cause if it is I fucking love. That's like the highlight of every show is like Oh this while a bunch of chairs of goes. It's going to be amazing. These two are going to beat the fuck Outta each other. They gotta be a good. It's going to be good. I agree. When does this go off? I wonder Oh man I man this is no inouye meant to disrespect P._B.. and M J F and that title traditionally goes last boy this could go last yeah Yup. It's true I guess unlike the last intense title match I will not be yelling for. Dom Bleed mainly because I value my own life 'cause I. I know dom would come out of a snack me so no not this match put these who are going to beat the Piss at each other definitely settling gonna be one for the ages as they say yeah I this is one where I really could see the fucking match going either way to like I could easily easily Saddam winning mismatch. I easily see justice wins <unk> on that. I've said I don't remember I've said on the show because I know said off the show the thing that I like about guys like justice in P._b.. Being champion is these are local guys justice more than P._B.. Because with justice being champion I know it's a better shot that he's going to be defending it on every show and that I mean that's not a shot at Mike Golic Jamila or even Don's it's just justices that dude and he's going to put on a great fucking Magic Zun clean before he was champion so now every show but dom is also local he could hold that thought with pride and fuck. I I love this match this will. I'M GONNA say closer to the the end if it doesn't go on last second last is going to be my man charged to say anymore man. I try to pick where I think. Stuff's GONNA come out. Then thorns surprises me so I've rarely right about the bachelor will we don't get every match on top of it. There's Times if I feel like if we were given every single match we might be able to predict the order better but I mean we're guaranteed almost blind match every show. That's it's not an ounce. I like that I liked so out immediately to it. It sucks for what we're doing though right trying to its exited space monkey is always the surprise. No one ever has bananas Yeah. Yeah Bananas are also disgusting Dahmen Bananas a fantastic. That's right. I I told you there's a women's match in this one. Yes okay we will get. We will get to that in the picks. Nothing just scroll scrolling through the AD. W Graham didn't realize he mentioned that yet. We don't get those very often anymore. We have sanger R._A.. It's kind of became like the the token match well because you listen to stacey like thorn mentioned lying. We'll have like a bunch of shows in a row with women's batches but he's like hey. We also then go like a handful of shows without a women's match. Just it's just how it's been lately right. It's not like everybody gets a shot champ. Anyone I mean you could but you have to go to annex t right all right before we get into picks we will Cohen is commercial break. We'll be right back. 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Now she's great. That Gimmick is hilarious me yeah. I don't see her losing a W for a long long time I think since we've tried it a couple times four. I want to try it again. We just mentioned space monkey. Get the cat toys and then throw him in the ring outer. I like it or I got a couple. People have a laser pointer but they said there's no bleacher. She'll be harder. I'd have to do it in front row but couple laser pointers and like which is in the middle of the ring like pointing on the on the map because she is really good at that shit like this this past week and I know at <hes> southern aground pro which was partially sponsored by wrestling jeers she like ran around the ring and like wanting people like scratch your head and I was like Oh. That's like a little cat trait. That's Kinda cool. I mean as long as you're not disgusted by but it's completely up to you yeah. That's that's that's unsanitary. Hopefully she's had her flea mad so she was a weird twitter casualty. Yeah <hes> PAT like you guys. We're talking about twitter casualties on Van Dance. I like her was was different than other people's though like Amanda Gloucester's U._C. credits <hes> got him the needle her heaved channel just sat there and watched her makeup makeup tutorials type thing of fourteen minutes long lake. I sat there and thinking the remembering how she started off in wrestling. I'm like Oh. I want to know how she was backstage because this obviously is at her natural so when she was at like all Pretty Girl Pink Shit like basically Barbie. She's probably just a foul mouth bitch behind the scenes which I've on fucking hilarious now. I don't know I just I think it's weird that she lost that twitter handle. <hes> alley cat did for impersonating someone impersonating. She tweeted about what a burger in wrestling on yeah. Davey Vega was another weird casualty but I don't remember why I just said. All of them. Were Kinda weird when they leave the as I stated in Van Damme this week it's you got all these like far right Nazi people that are just allowed to say whatever they want their shutting down cats and wrestlers. Let's fucking weird solely on the made sense to me. It was all we will finally get back throughout the he got his but it what it is he prize even said anything recently to head to be like old yeah. I don't know I mean again. I said the group chat but I think Sabu probably doesn't know what happened and he thinks twitter's just route just not working for him. Yeah like it's down for everyone. He works in event talking talking about twitter and he's like Oh shit works against know that or the other side do it is that does no but he just doesn't get like whatever I'm done with that fucking like he has no care what I was probably the most accurate who needs now again. Don't tweet about these stupid shows. I gotta go to write off. Just say racist things. People in parts cheeses probably not wrong anyway. <hes> we go from twitter broke to twitter being woke naturally get a transition by fucking tried without one big Thuan Tucker versus Lago Fuck. I can't it's match <hes> just everything that happens. They vow Akron show last year thing that was entered the dragon in whether picked one talkers GONNA learn his lesson or I don't know does swaddled try to throw as much weight as he he can at the center of making a pick air what crazy shit happens go smuggle. I'm picking swallow hundred percent a it's a grudge match IOS he owes Thuan back plus plus. Get ready for Scott Steiner right so he's gotta start going after bigger. Jude's Taiwan's like a warm up match for Scott Steiner smuggles saugus going over in now absolutely not he's got the number because he's party never stops and duke money so he's got the numbers on his side with at Least Party <unk> Parker Pearson Duke. You know those at least be there so got numbers that way Amy Scott the size as woke dude the big one is common for that ASS Wagle. He's got it's GonNa be big won Miss Squash honey Manson jock in my life. It's been too long. They announce for a show recently. I I don't think so let me look at it and that's that's the thing I think we mentioned before we started. It's just they've been promoting like ever since the break started. Promoting here is sixty six hours ago announced to the Patriots Musset opens though because we break in here it's patriotic and I'm not trying all exclusives. Shy Busted Open for you. That's why that's why you have me on here because I pay the big bucks for the Patriot. You want me to match exclusive here well. They've announced it somewhere so it's it's someone news he'll do. It got duke money versus Philly Marino experience versus the production which is Eddie only and Derek director versus the boys from Jolly Bill and Duke Money is due Manson Jack Events on Friday this Friday okay so that's a four way we're gonNA see so so jockey. Mansoor GonNa be there with to do for for big big Thuan match so okay. We'll come all his boys there. We'll come back to that match next because I don't have a new. I saw that somewhere you. You're a higher grade behind that Awol than I am. I'm I'm about five dollars. Pay Level Level Yeah Yeah I mean I'm sure does this come out Thursday. Yeah it'll be announced by then if he's mad. He'll text me and tell me to shut up so it's well. I think at the same time though this it's it's been announced. It's just been announced behind a Patriot wall and obviously before you can get if you pay for it. If you don't have now you should pay for it because I knew about that six hours ago and apparently you should pay for the fuck in better version than I have says. I'm putting audio audio. Yeah I just have five dollars version and I don't have yeah I get those fucking really cool articles magnum rights and the other podcasts okay okay. I get a send me Shit in the mail my how Oh it's pretty cool <hes> but yeah it's a good times worth the money. I don't get any of that. Yes you brother. I should for the podcast Shit I mean they got idea. WanNa say fifty bucks you get an ad on their podcasts at least one do at one time that could draw new listeners. You never know that's on my list with probably going to be like what was power bombed that T._v.. Now Independent Wrestling T._v.. They announced that like <unk> end of the year two thousand seventeen. I didn't do until March yeah. I've been a sucker percents because I've been on that one. I told you what you need to do about the banners and use it as get a banner show up with it with cash on hand Gulf too big John or like somebody. WHO's taking this cash? Where can I endless? That's how you get it done. That's another thing it even though it's pretty much just me behind the scenes of wrestling jeers. There's a bunch of I'm working on and I now I can someone announce that there is going to be another show that we're going to sponsor and it's going to be in the state of Ohio in. It's going to be a company that all of us go to just leave it at that right now. mentioned it number unrewarding but something I'm looking forward to because this promoter actually reached out to me fair enough so more than anyway back to a big one tucker and swaddled we all have all the all it takes me stacey acid said <unk> I mean we said swallow year same nick one. Oh yes in squash okay ready. Real is not woke Rita's that <hes> for we tag match one wartime okay it is Duke money which is <hes> Jack and all manse versus Philly Marino experience versus the production which is Eddie only Derek director versus the boys from Jolly Ville which I like to call the jolly bill pockets. I don't know what this boys from Jolly Bill Businesses version the where this is now while maybe because data church maybe they're not trying to test their lock already knew who else I know is going to be booked looked but he's not scheduled for match. It ain't it might be that or it might be a last minute scramble Dan Houser. There's going to be a scramble because there's somebody else that have seen post the they're booked for Friday driving and I just remembered it and they would probably be a scream so do you want to mention it away to her done <hes>. I don't know if it should have been out there so okay so yeah I know Dan houses are going to be there so male enough that information supposed to tell 'cause I bought a mask off of him and he said he's going to be at the show was in the production so I would assume that all it lets everybody should buy those bucket maps. Ast there the cool. It's the coolest guy the thing I've ever bought at a restaurant show. The the funny thing is like he posted about all I can you like customers and I sent a Gif of <hes> they live because like I want that one and he's like oh I could do that for a little bit more are and then like a day later he by advertise like oh I can t they live mother Fucker Grin. Same price that I'm paying wasn't a difference but it was just like I don't know what I gave him an idea like Oh yeah I'll do my other. My other pain like fuck. I love that want so yeah about one of the regular ones at Akron and I would probably like to have them do either the Jane Doe Makeup or the integrity makeup on one. It should pay him wanted to I._C._p.. I was GONNA say you're GonNa get a jugular when I might how God it's cool that it's fucking handmade stuff like yeah he is not. There's not a lot of guys out there that are like quitting are into their gimmick table the top of my head like that's pretty much it <hes> so going back to that match. I WanNa say P._M.. E because they're on a fucking enroll. Yeah so yeah but it's always hard. It's always hard to take against money though too because they got the extra man yeah do money's hard to go up against honestly man. The productions got an extra man ensue <hes> at the productive been on a roll very true. It's this is a fucking hard match to call. I based on the the change in those two guys a getting new gear in the old thing. I'm GonNa pick the band. That knew that new gear was fire have come here. Is I call it. That crispy White was was nice. <hes> it's so hard to take against Manse Warner is also especially with that cheat son of a bitch the duke fuck the Duke through store drivers favorite wrestler right after Lewis Lennon Wow. He's GonNa be offended by that. He I'm going P._M.. Me I'm a little bit different. I'M GONNA go production because this is a new version of the production nicey. Maybe maybe we get another match soon of P.. M. E. versus production on one. The echoes battle the Tag Team Division A._W._S.. fucking thing yes going on in they have the potential like having a lot more because of some of the matches are some of the people that were at the tryout even like one of the tag teams the one came out to some people thought was razor-sharp music. That's not officially that's the actual song but razor man's got the custom version just the standard right but what what the fuck cap in of the rest of that guy's gloves while his gloves have no fingers on aw but that team is made up of tag-team wrestlers from two separate teas so I'm wondering if we'll see those teams in head of which I believe it's Alpha Alpha Omega and no new friends from his a lack going on tag division saw be shocked if we get tag people really vigils pretty crowded good transition to the tag team championship match to infinity in beyond on versus the young studs crazy scenario we could see the young studs capture the W texting championships take them to Wrestlemainia weekend and defend them in the rematch rematch against law Famiglia Dedi WanNa it would be a great. It would make that match even better obviously for sure you know they're now so I mean that that's not a bad idea unless you know Eric Ryan's been killing himself for killing it for a while bobby beverly. I know he's only been back for a little while. I actually from what I've gathered like. As long as I have been coming around was when he started coming back again. Maybe does like his second run or something like that. Our bodies Bobby's bit in and out yeah so in them to have been killing it as a tag lately so I wouldn't be shocked to see them. See Them. Take the strap here plus. I think thorn knows everybody just absolutely hates <unk> him beyond with the belts yeah man I so much said there's so much said I would. I would love to see anybody else. Be Champs. That'd be good so <hes> those guys definitely anybody else other table and at that qualification man Bevin Air Brian are going to have the craziest match at mania weekend on the AD W show that fuck Mexican death match is going to be insane whether they have the belts or they don't if they have the belts that's look great. <hes> we get to see them win at this show <hes> but I have the sinking fucking feeling that Cheech and Colin Honor GonNa Walk into mania weekend with those belts I pick to infinity and beyond all echo to invite him beyond as much as I would love to see that title chain Chapman. I'll just go safe-money <unk> beyond what's a safer bet to incident in beyond cheech finally gives me that Vandamme for twenty shirt. Never GonNa let die until it gives it to me. I'm keeping deep. Bring it up so let me get that church. Each I got I got the I got Yup. DAD'S A C. I say we see entitled Change. I would love it. I wish I could have your optimism the right next up tim don's versus filthy. Tom lawler <hes> tough up. I got I gotta go with Filthy Tom. He he's got one of the best records yeah W. Right now so and he's going for the title soon but this is going to be interesting match but you stacey this fucking hard to pick you know what he absolutely against my my guide adopts. I think I think filthy. Tom Overlooks Tim Don's as he's paying attention to P._B.. Smooth Mania weekend and gym dance picks up the win over filthy. What if we get what if we don't even get will run in what if they just hit P._B.'s music and he comes out to the stage and that's Kinda what distracts filthy to give them the win? That's that's what that something like that happens. You know I mean I don't know I picked filthy because I was downtick filthy. He's the man right now <hes> filthy for life but if I could see if I could it is going to be made key be involved filthy. Tom Lawler George Annella Jelly on that one. I guess just because I've been with him longer but he's hurt right now so I left the more asking which one you are more fan of but I I had a feeling it all. It was now awake. I blink you in Genoa like that's your favorite okay yeah. Filthy is the man that's T._S._K._J.'s is in love with him though she'd pick all three of us after the last show I think yeah I tweeted as a good one filthy time rules man. Does I like a lot zillion Daniel. He's always Dan and hang out with Matthew. Justice versus dominant Greenie for the air W in tense Title I gotTa Go Matthew Justice He. I think dom fights in incredible battle and it's hard thought is how disease wanted this Belfer while in his opinion this is the were the workers title <hes> but I think I think justice thing. Justice comes out on top here. I used to are going to be the holy shit out of each other. I'm GONNA be <unk>. I think it's going to be close. I think dom is GonNa come so fucking close to winning but justices GonNa win on Friday all right next up Zach Thomas Versus Eddie Kingston. I Really WanNa Pick Zach Thomas but is that he fucking Kingston a Mago Eddie. How're you stacey? I can't pick against Unsteady Kingston Zach Thomas Again. This is another one where I think he's GonNa come real close. It's going to be a great match but there's the the advantages of youth don't outweigh the advantages of experience and Eddie Kingston. It's GONNA find a way to win this match. He I think if anything <unk> ZACK'S GONNA go go toe to toe with some <hes> but it's it's it's almost impossible to pick against Eddie Kingston. W especially like I said the man he <hes> he's on a path right now he he he may be going out and maybe maybe hanging up so I think he's he's fight with is got and then last match we have is the A._I.. W absolute title match P._B.. Smooth with nurses M J F Maxwell Shakeup Friedman and make sure I said that right cause for I will accidentally say his name wrong all the fucking time so I would love to see that will change change here was granted. I mean I like P._B.. Smooth but I mean N._J._I._T.. Champion would be so much fun but with that title match coming with Filthy Tom. I think you we see P._B._S.. Move Win here. But what if you you mentioned earlier what about this provides a distraction with filthy Tom. This is a rematch right. We have seen P beaver M. J. F. A.. Mike my correct here. I feel like we have yeah but I am. I also positive that we have seen this match <hes> and I. I don't remember <unk> who won but I think we see P._B.. Come out as championing area yeah man. I'M GONNA pick P._B.. For no other reason and <hes> there's just you know holding the Seltzer two weeks. I don't know I don't out see a change. Come that quick and like M.. Jeff's already got other shit that he's focused on for mania weekend for AH W and I just I don't I think T._V.. Walks out chant all right that pretty much wraps it up for this preview episode four seven year itch any final thoughts or last minute plugs before we go stacey <hes> no it's going to be the show is going to be me. Celebrate my birth thing so I may be a little more neighboring. That's show than I normally so. Oh Yeah we're going to get chore so if I seem like I'm not making a lot of sense. It's because you know it's my birthday Haley Al <hes> if you didn't hear my voice on this you can listen to me every week. I'm pot indium can follow me on twitter. You can call me Ron. You may be able to hear my voice on another show pretty soon too but nothing more about that our up plugged into bunch in so much so that I forgot to plug it year US yeah. 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I've made it through like like the novelty of what crazy Shitsus fucking Guy GonNa say went away like super-quick and I was just like I can't I can't do it. I think I made it through through a half hour. I I'm not a big Rogan same thing here. You should buy go-to fearlessness that means like wrestling goede to stir Jabar's S._e._M.. Being by some stuff on them so we have money through many weekend by beverages he's been killing at least had so much good stuff in his story lately. He's been finding great stuff attack. His Louvre Sean Shirt pop up in pictures all all the time. Oh Yeah <hes> Pain Royce posted one shot at US yeah funches postal on he got a shoutout on the filthiest podcast. He's he's been getting getting all kinds of run wild famous guy. That's yes J. It's been awhile but he got that. Shout out on the major. Wrestling figure podcast onto is everywhere not on the show has shown awhile. He's busy guy yeah APP seen him. 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