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Eating Japanese Knotweed, Some Must-Plant Vegetables, and Mandevilla Vine

Plantrama

23:36 min | 2 years ago

Eating Japanese Knotweed, Some Must-Plant Vegetables, and Mandevilla Vine

"This is plant Rama with Ellen's Akos in myself. See Alpher for Nari. It's the podcast for everyone who has ever grown eaten or wondered about plants today. We're talking about eating Japanese. Not wait. Yes. Some must have vegetables and the favourite Mandeville LeVine. Well, we have to start off, of course, Ellen with what's for dinner. Really Japanese Knotweed is for dinner. Yes. Really Japanese Knotweed is for dinner. It is really like definitely one of my favorite wild edibles. It's so versatile, and it's such an aggressive weed that you can go out there and harvest with impunity and the world will thank you. Now. Just right off the bat. I want to say that there's been a lot of talk about the roots of Japanese Knotweed containing resveratrol, which is a medicinal antioxidant. And so if you read about Jack. He's not being a healthy plant because of the rest fair trial. That's in the roots. I know nothing about that. As I mentioned before for me. It's all about the food and the flavor and when Japanese Knotweed comes up in spring before the stems get tough, you should be able to just snap off the end of it with a satisfying pop with your hand, those stems can be used as a rhubarb substitute in pies. And composts they can be used as in a stir fry as very lemony vegetable or you can make a wine out of them. I've done that you can make a syrup which makes a great cocktail ingredient. Try try a whisky sour with Japanese Knotweed. Instead of lemon lime mix. It's got a beautiful pink color to it. And a very tart flavor. I go back east. I really do this. I go back east every April just so I can harvest Japanese Knotweed. And then I either bring it back in my suitcase, which confuses. TSA to no end, or you know, I leave it in the freezer there and cook with it over the summer. It's it's a wonderful plant. Okay. So if you're harvesting at how tall would these shoots be when you picked up. Well, that's the interesting thing because common wisdom says they have to be done to twelve inches tall. And they should be as thick as a pencil, but that's actually not true. And what it what it gets into is the Mera stem of the plant is the quick growing end of the plant, the shoot that is putting out new growth really quickly and the mirror stems will always be tender. So if a plant is an active growth, even if it's up to your chest high. If the end of that plant can be snapped off with your hand and is not super fibrous. It's good to eat. And that's something that I think most people don't know. But if that mirror stem is still tender it is still edible. Okay. And. And you would be snapping off what four inches five inches six inches. It depends again on the plant you you could be snapping off twelve inches. You could be snapping off four inches. A lot of that depends on where you are in the growing season. The important thing is that it's tender, and then you're going to bring that home. You're going to remove the leaves wash the plants off for some reason Japanese Knotweed holds a great appeal for little ants. I always find a lot of small ants in there and wash that off, and then you can actually just put it right in the freezer. This is nice because it's not a vegetable that needs to be blanched before it's frozen. You can stick it right in the freezer and deal with it later when you have time in it is a water hog. So you're never gonna find this in Santa Fe, New Mexico. But if you are in Colorado by this edge of a stream, you may easily find it, and it's it's actually invasive in many parts of the country, so invasive all over the northeast now, let me ask you this. If if there's a patch of Japanese Knotweed where you are. And you go out, and you harvest the entire patch early in the spring and freeze it does it send up new shoots. Then the you can go out and harvest a second round ES. It absolutely does. And the other thing is that it's been proven over time that if you harvest the complete patch repeatedly, you will eventually weaken, the Japanese Knotweed, and it will die off. So for some people. That's a good thing. If it were in my backyard, I would not harvest the whole thing every year because I would want to probably limit its growth, but keep it there. So yes, you can continuously harvest. It's it's like a what is it called a pick and pick again, or whatever there's that. Like if you pick only the outer leaves of your charred cut and come gas it cut and come against. Yes. Japanese Knotweed can be a cut and come again crop for you. All right. We talked about one of my favorite edible plants. Now. Let's talk about three of CL's must plant veggie varieties. These are plants she could not do without in her vegetable garden, and I am very curious as to what those might be. Well, first of all we had just mentioned a cut and come again plant, the Japanese Knotweed. Well, let's start with a cut and come again plant in the vegetable garden, and that is the bright lights chart. This is a Swiss chard, right? The seeds are available pretty much through any seed supplier. And it's called bright lights because you get a mix of different types of chard. Some that have white stems some that have yellow stems and some that have writ stems at. So it's very pretty in the garden, but it is one of these cut and come again, that's two bills. Basically what you would do with charred is you pick the older leaves cutting them off a single leaf not the whole plant, but the single leaves the older leaves, and you let the rest of the plant grow. And this way, you can continue to harvest chart all the way through the summer and even into the fall, and it's such a pretty plant to I mean, you could even integrate that into your if you only had one garden bed, you could integrate that in with your ornamented, and it would be perfectly lovely to look at and delicious it is. And the advantage of having all these different colors Ellen is the following. You can pick whatever color you want to either have influence what you are cooking or not influence, for example. If I was making a charred result. Oh say, and I did not want that risotto to be pink in color. I would harvest the yellow stem charred or the white stint charred only for that dish. But if for some reason I wanted to create a pink risotto, then I would harvest the pink stemmed charged for that dish. And it's color goes into the dish that you're making. Well, that's like a perfect dish for Valentine's Day, which of course is just past. But you know, remember that for next year? So that is the advantage of bright lights is that if you don't want a dish to be colored pink as it would be a few used only pink stemmed charred, you can use the white stems and the yellow stems and not have the color be an issue. So that's vegetable number one second vegetable that I always plant is black beauty eggplant. Now, there are many varieties of eggplant some skinny fix white. Some look like Easter eggs, some look like lavender streaks, you know, all kinds of different varieties of eggplant. But if you want a good. Productive big fruiting eggplant go with black beauty. I love eggplant. It's maybe my favorite of all vegetables. So that's a really good one to know. What's number three and number three is the Chinese Red noodle beans? Now. These are these aren't actual beans. These are actually a cow p believe it or not. But number one, you can grow them in a very small space because they scramble up a trellis or support of some sort. Okay. They're very ornamental. They have little purple flowers that are very sweet that look like sweet pea flowers, and so they're ornamented you could put them on any trellis or obelisk in your flower garden, and they're beautiful they bear during the hottest time of the summer, and the noodle beans are very long, and they're red, and they seem seemingly. Appear overnight when they need that. I need that. You've made me you made me want. I want I want it. Now, you could grow them in a container Ellen. They would do very well in a large container. And as I say, you know, you can harvest them all and come out the next day, and there are more there and not only that but within two days, they get to be, you know, a good foot or eighteen inches long. That sounds incredible. Now. Wait, you said they're cowpeas. So is what you're eating the bean or do you harvest the seeds the piece from inside the pullulating bean, you're eating the actual pod? All right. You don't let them get big enough. So that the seed gets lard. Okay. And there really are the best when they are thin and tender no thicker assay than a pencil. You harvey'll come when they're the diameter of a pencil, and you can put these in pasta sauce, you can lightly sauteed them, and then have them room temperature in salad. You can have. Them in a stir fry you basically put them in just about any soup. And I love them particularly in Chile if you're making a chilly, you just chop them into little pieces, and there are a nice dark color. The flavor goes beautifully with a Pinto beans in the chili and they are delicious. May may I ask you where you order the seed from because I have never seen those in the stores around here, and I would really like to order something most big seed places, you can get them. But I know that Johnny seeds carries them. And and the Baker creek seed catalog also offers them I have a copy of that catalog right here on my desk. Even though I don't order from them very much the catalog is such a work of art that I just keep it around for entertainment value. But I'm gonna go place in order. Thank you Chinese Red noodle beans. It's one of my must grow vegetables. Ellen for our each drink. Grow segment today. I want to talk about one of the most exciting annuals to be, you know, grown in a long time and one that people all over the country are deciding that this is a must have summer plant for them. And that is the Mandeville LeVine. I love Mandeville LA. But it surprises me to hear you talk about it that way because maybe it's because I came to plants through tropicals, but I have been growing Mandeville for twenty years and growing in the garden for my clients as an annual for a very long time. So maybe it's just that. Now, outdoor gardeners are discovering the virtues of this plant, which are many, well, I think that those who have been gardening in larger metropolitan areas you were working for clients in the New York City area. So you had access to a wider range of plants. That many people in the country, and but the good news about this plant is that sense growers have discovered how wonderful it is. And that there is a Mandeville LeVine for just about every size garden, and every us they are growing at more and more and a lot of new varieties have come out in a lot of new colors. And so this is a plant that is now available in garden centres all over the country. Whereas I would say ten years ago. It was a harder plant to find. I think you're right about that. It is definitely growing in popularity and it's a knockout of the plant it gives you good coverage in a single growing season. You could over winter it indoors if you had a very sunny spot or a greenhouse. We'll talk about that in a minute. I had to greenhouse clients in New York City, and I did grow it as a vine in greenhouse. It is not hard to over winter. But I do want to mention right away that it used to be that you would find shorter versions of men Davila that we're actually called diploid India. Yes, now, they have all been reclaimed fide as men Davila. Sometimes you will still see them labelled diplomat India, but basically those are shorter plant so people need to be clear when they go shopping for men Davila vine what they want. Do. They want a tall vine that grows, you know, six eight feet tall with very large flowers or do. They want a shorter plant that grows. Well, in hanging baskets, or in their window boxes that only gets about, you know, two feet tall. We used to find men Davila a mob list. It's really manned. Avila X, and that was the big leafed won. The leaves were little bit coarser had a little more texture to them big flowers grows, really long and tall. And it's a very good climber. And then there was Mandeville splendens which had slightly smaller leaves smoother shinier surface, slightly smaller flowers, and that I primarily recommend for growing in hanging basket because rather than climb. It's a good cast skater or or trailer. And then what used to be the Dipa Denia used to grow as an upright because it was shorter and shrub your as you mentioned ended also those beautiful yellow flowers, and there's been a lot of new hybrids introduced recently. So you getting you're getting whites and you're getting almost reds, and you're getting pale pale pink. There's a lot more variety to choose from in flower color, in addition to the different growth habits that you can choose from be sure when you're buying your plant to see what the label says in terms. Of height because I do know people who have bought one particularly in a small pot expecting that. It's going to climb up a trellis, and what they actually have is the shorter variety that doesn't do that. So be sure and check the label when you purchase this plant because it is a plant that as I say it might be short. Now, why do people love it people? Love it. Because the flowers are big number one. They're trumpet inform. They look sort of like a Martin glory flower only, not blow right and a little bit smaller. But basically, yeah that same trumpet shaped some of them have a yellow on the inside of trumpet. So you get a little bit of yellow color along with the white or the pink or the red that you've got going and people also love it because it doesn't have to be dead headed Ryan, right? It's a point. So I know many people who've said I'm not putting geraniums in my window. Boxes anymore because I've got keep up with the dead heading and the grooming on them. I'm planting one of the shorter varieties. Amanda villa instead. Yeah. And that could also apply you may be petunia lover their way too much maintenance work for me. But you get that same flower shape and a lot of the same colors with Amanda villa and without the deadheading. So that that right away cuts your chore time in the garden. Right. It is also a plant that loves the heat and so being a tropical plant, and so you don't have to worry that this is going to stop flowering in hot weather, like some of the Calo per co was due for example. So it's nice that people can plant it and count on it having flowers in a sunny location. Although I think sometimes in the south where it's really really hot they do benefit from a little shade. Later on in the afternoon. Yeah. I think that is true in the south or in the desert southwest if you are irradiating that sun is still so bright a little afternoon shade would be good. But certainly in the northeast full sun is the way to go with this plant, and you could you could have it. Grow up trellis against the wall. You could plant at the base of rod iron fence, and it would cover that fence and run along it. It's really a show stopper. As far as beauty is concerned. It absolutely is and really not troubled by insects or diseases. You know, it's a pretty maintenance free. You would want to plant it with some either time release fertilizer or a combination time release and organic fertilizer or mixing organic fertilizer into the pot. You know, keep that for Tillery up for the summer and watering regularly throughout the summer is also important. This is. Not a plant that needs to be or wants to be kept to moist it it can rot. If you keep it, really, really wet. But just a regular watering does very well with this plant. All right. Well, let's let's circle back to overwintering and tell me why you were hesitant when I said this could be over wintered indoors. Okay. It's a very easy plant to keep alive indoors, however in order to trigger the flowering again for the coming season, it needs long periods of light that most people unless they've have greenhouse do not have indoors. And so what most people's experience is is that they keep it over the winter. It goes through a binding stage. That's fine. They, you know, trim it back a little bit when they put it back outside, and they fertilize it. And then they wait, and they wait. And they wait and it finally comes back into flour in August. Interesting. So grower could manipulate the light. So that it blooms earlier in the season. But if you don't have greenhouse that's going to be hard for you to do if you don't have a greenhouse or if you don't have this. Under growed lights that are on for fourteen hour days, your Mandeville LeVine is not going to come into flower at the beginning of the season. You couldn't go to any garden center in may pretty much by Mandeville LeVine that already has flowers on it and put it out in your garden, and it will bloom all summer if you keep it over for the winter. And you don't give it those long days of light. It's not going to flower for you until it goes through the summer solstice. All right. Well, that's good to know. And that also explains why for my greenhouse clients it had a we had no trouble with it at all because it was getting those longer light days and probably. A little extra heat in the spring as well. So it is a good plant. It is one that if you haven't grown it. I urge you to try it this year. Whether it's short medium tall, you're gonna love this Mandeville LeVine. This week. We have a letter from Mandy who wrote to ask what is wrong with eating green potatoes. She grew them for the first time last year and the tops of a lot of them were green. And her neighbor told her that she shouldn't eat those that she should throw them away. So Mandy did that. But now, she's not sure she had to and she really wants to know why why are green potatoes bad? Yeah. You know, if you can eat, green eggs and ham. Why can't you agree? Right. Well potatoes naturally produce actually a toxin and it's for their own protection. In a way, it's a defense against insects, and it is sunlight that causes this. So what you're seeing the greenness that you're seeing is actually produced by chlorophyll in the plant, but the same growing conditions that exposure to sunlight, the same growing conditions that produce the chlorophyll also produce Sola mean and Sola Nin is the toxin in the. The skin of the potato that occurs. When it's exposed to light. And if you eat a lot of it, it could make you nauseous it could cause you some intestinal upset, but you have to eat a lot. I read somewhere that like if you're one hundred pound person who's one hundred pound person, I don't know hundred May- there, but you would have to eat sixteen ounces of fully green potato which is like a a large baked potato you'd have to eat the equivalent of that to get sick. But it's also kind of shame that she threw all her potatoes away. Don't you think? Well, you can some people actually cut the green part often throw that away. And it's unlikely that then there's enough Sola Nin in the remainder of the potato to to grow. But I think basically Mandy you've you've learned something here, which is you don't want the roots of your potatoes to be exposed to the sun. Ryan. So the main thing going forward is to be sure to pile dirt over the base of your potatoes and some people even as their potatoes grow. They rake up soil from near the plants and mounted up against the base of the stems to be sure that the potatoes that are growing along underneath are covered with a good layer of soil. That's what I do. And that is a good idea, that's sort of the best practice. But I also if I do have a potato that's got a little bit of green on it. I either cut that off or I peel it the green is usually in the skin or immediately under the skin. So you can take that away. Now, if the potato tastes bitter throw it away, then it's just too much in it. But a lot of times you can just cut off a piece of the potato. So if this does happen to you in the future, you don't have to throw away your entire crop. If you have a question that we might address in a future podcast, please send it to us plan. It Rama at g mail dot com. 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Attachment Science & the Single World With Becki Mendivil (Replay)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

54:51 min | 1 year ago

Attachment Science & the Single World With Becki Mendivil (Replay)

"You know what's interesting as I was listening to your blue podcast while I appreciate it and I wanted more. Actually I felt like I need more like. Tell me more about this. When I was listening to your podcasts on the red side of the spectrum I really found myself identifying with that apart too so I felt a little bit like a split personality and then you know. I guess I kind of realized like a if it's a spectrum right then we kind of at any given time depending on the circumstances you might fall anywhere on that spectrum. I'm probably I don't know if we're going to be in the Green Zone but so I agree I go to blue tee-shirt. The T shirt has security sir. Hey everybody hey everybody welcomed at their percents censored. This is a podcast that breaks down interpersonal science into practical an understandable tidbits as you'd listen. I can just imagine little lightbulbs bulbs of insight appearing above your head. You're going to be surprised and touched at what you learn about yourself. As you get more accurate and indepth view of your mind and your heart and as you figure out those close to you therapist uncensored it brings you decades of experience with interpersonal psychotherapy relational neuroscience modern attachment in anything else they think will be helpful and healing humans now here your co host. Dr Dan Kelly Ensue Marriott Everyone Zan and I am happy to announce that sue and I are back in extremely jazzed about season season four which we are kicking off next week. We have a fantastic season ahead for you and I can tell you from both of us that we are ready to get going as our last replay sue is talking with our longtime listener Becky Mandeville about how she applies some of the concepts she's learned from therapist uncensored over the a years in her everyday life as a single woman is apparent as a CO worker in her career so we chose this one not only because it's fun and light but it really really sheds a lot of light on how understanding attachment and emotional regulation can affect an influence your everyday relationships so it's a very insightful one and speaking of which we also want to announce workshop is out on October sixteenth so if you're we're interested in applying these concepts into your everyday life as an individual or as somebody helping profession and would like to purchase it you you can get a presale price up until October sixteenth so just go to attachment explained dot event bright dot com or you can also just is Google the title it's not me. It's my Mingla right so let's get started on today's episode. Hey everybody welcome back. This is sue Marriott with therapists uncensored. We are so excited to bring you. This is GonNa be fun because Becky Mandeville is no not my last name. Yeah you're out now. She is going to be talking to us about you know we've been doing officer. TASMA staff. All these therapists are like Oh you know how about the glioma cells and Blah Blah Blah and becky's gonNA bring us down to reality so anybody who is either new to this or you know. It's not in a clinical Michael Setting wants to apply these knows these are great ideas but wants to apply it to real world life right. Becky is going to be our truth teller and bring us down the reality really talk about it in plain language so that we're not just speaking to the choir right right and also we don't have that limited knitted perspective of someone who's involved in a romantic relationship. Exactly what is it actively actively not not a single person not looking for dating so must single not actively dating person not really no not actively if we looking fest right and honestly we have gotten several by the way thank you listeners because we have got feedback about like yeah yeah yeah. That's great people in relationship but there are a lot of other people out here sure yes as I'm listening to your podcasts. I'm thinking to myself. How can I adjust what they're saying to someone who isn't in a romantic relationship so I'm I'm trying to make those adjustments as you guys are talking about it on the podcast and so I think you have some we've still learn and so beca is is going to help us. Bring it down to real world because I totally agree with you. I've noticed that even we start out about dating or whatever whatever if you notice there's all this bias towards relationship romantic relationship to relieving out huge vibrant segment of the world and it's easy to make the adjustment for someone who's not in a relationship but it would be nice not to have to do that right it would be nice to have a podcast focuses on people who just want to improve relationships in general not dating relationships. Amen Simulation relationships so I've used it to work our relationships with my daughter. You wanted to start there like okay so this is. You're a single mom yes. I'm a single mom working professional yeah my daughter's in high school skull so that's a challenge in and of itself and so I thought I would do some fun and so you're learning about this attachment stuff and probably is producing great paranoia. Oh sure paradise think that was the first experience with listen to podcasts. I'm learning about attachment like had to turn it off just because it was so much. Oh Oh my gosh me too when I was reading it. It was just like Oh God. It's it's it's a shame it was like I know on blue. I know it gets up. Stop up telling me how do I am okay. So shall we slow down. Oh yes and so I don't know anything other than blue all like this. I answered hell the audience what your understanding of Louis Oh my understanding of blue is a a little avoidance probably very avoided and one of the things I really took away from the episode you did on that blue part of the spectrum is that you think your okay you think you're cool and independent and build uh suck that was like the worst as part of it is like somebody to do a bucket of cold water in my face. I was like well. I thought I was really indicate here. I know I don't need. I need anybody's help and it's awesome. I love you see video of the shot with a guy on the cliff or whatever and he's by himself and it's talking the blue and he's like I'm totally good down here. I'm perfect didn't want to be me and then the next scene is like it's getting a little chilly out here. Sir I have no one okay so the video less slowdown so the video is one that is available on Youtube from therapists uncensored and it does the basics basics if you're new to this and you have no idea what blue is there's a short video. That's going to bring you up to date but in general the idea is we are taking attachment and the research from attachment instead of putting it in the annals of research that we are bringing it to the public which basically means we want to make usable and in order to make it usable we need to think of it not not as a researcher but as a clinician or as becky saying it's just a person in the world is not a clinician at all but like how can this stuff be useful so we put it on a spectrum and there are several episodes and we're. GonNa Reference these in the show notes that give you the background to this but I'm going to give you a one sentence. Just which is that that the science that backs this very profound but the general idea is that this is the way we've interpreted it. This is a therapist censored version putting on a spectrum. The blue is what Becky's talking about which is the avoidance side of the attachments on one end of the spectrum. That's bright right right and as a matter of fact by by the way quick side note becky actually helped us do some of the graphics the graphic for the spectrum the attachments and it's been really sweet because she still don't remember exactly what's the exact terminology is but I just remember the spectrum say since she worked on it in such detail we know it's obviously obviously not that clear and so we're going to keep coming back over and over and trying to like make it is understandable as possible. I just think it's a lot to digest. I think that the the concept of you're on this side and it means this and then the middle means this and then the red side means something else. I think that's really understandable but breaking down. Those pieces is is what's really helpful. I I totally agree and that's part of why we wanted to be bring becky on the air because I felt like she could speak for so many any people listening by the heck so again. The one sentence thing is like the blue is on the avoidance side which basically just bristled a little bit when you say basically it means. It's it's folks that have had an experience usually again. We're not blaming parents. This is not a parent blaming. I play my parents but because probably they had their parents. We could run it all the way up the generation right so this isn't promoting any problems like that but it really there's more promoting empathy like if you had a parent that wasn't comfortable with affect and what wasn't comfortable with soothing and comfort and feelings then you you learn to basically reduce your feeling sense and instead like get in your head and be like I'm fine. Everything's good pull hold myself up by the bootstraps. These parents might say oh yeah. I'll give you something to cry about now. I heard that all the time when she says she's Blue Blue. What's so weird is that I have a really good relationship with my parents now but you know growing up. It was very much about like you want someone to cry about. I mean it. It was very much I had that I think blue experience and I find that thinking back on it now. Despite the fact that I tried to be the best ask parent and I knew the research on being a parent and what was important what stages of growth my daughter was at. I still listening to your podcasts. I still I can think back and think oh well. I might have been a little bit of a blueprint to my daughter. Despite all my best intended so so vexing I remember my my daughter. I remember thinking she's been two so clean and that's horrible because I'm sure I'm now. I'm passing that on to her right so vexing I so appreciate you saying this and also but not in a self abusive sorta way like this is so unconscious and it's basically the Petrie Petrie dish that were raised in and becky totally am right in your boat like even though I could teach this and I might be doing parenting classes and teaching about attachment. I might come home and be like I'm tired BELVA. You know it's just so ingrained. I think it is the sentiment in the cinnamon roll so it's very hard to see and it's just permeates. Lets you don't WanNa take cinnamon. I love that though and that's part of what we're saying this. It's not dysfunctional. Here's an example since we're talking about blue. Lets US stay there for a minute again. That's the side that might reduce affect meaning feelings and emotion and as a matter of fact we might be suspect of it and like feel threatened threatened if we're honest when someone's highly emotional and we might do a lot of I roll in dismissive ness and even be degrading at times like it's. It's not cool to be so it's it's not called to be Arash. I know I've been nodding the whole time talking because it's so true like I like I rolling I just I can't stand it exactly but where we got that from was probably when we shrink ourselves two to three actually one onto we may have been I rolled at and yet we were only a wild meg the loan meaning that again those of you that are familiar with the neuroscience we we didn't have any kind of regulatory function in our minds or nervous system and we're relying on our parents to be the ones to sue this and so if our parents unfortunately channel had the experience that we're talking about the beckon talking about where there was a little bit of a like. Why are you crying right well. My parents were both educators so they were teachers. They had students silence all day long and then it had to come home to four kids. I mean I can just imagine that they just kind of try to tamp down a little bit and be like we don't. We don't really want to hear that. We don't do this emotion right. We're we're we want you to be seen and not heard in that whole kind kind of thing so I get it. I don't blame them totally and this is not apparent blaming thing however if you can notice Mbeki's even becky's language that probably somebody who who had a more secure experience if you don't mind me saying because again I'm in your boat right. Entirely I had a mom that worked fulltime out a disabled parent so my my experience was that I was overwhelming. I was too much so you're already. You've you've drunk. The KOOL aid it's like of course they would it would be too much but I can almost guarantee you that there are tons of families where they go to work and they're enriched by their work and I'm home and they're like really looking forward to seeing their kids and they have at the July and the excitement and that's a very natural thing so it's just a it's so much in this soup Yup and again. I'm really relating to you because because in my adult relationships my biggest difficulty is like believing that people want to be with me in that. I'm not a problem and I'm not a burden. It's just in the Petrie dish. It's just how is it an awful though that we're just conditioned now to kind of try to be no trouble and that's right and then as you're pointing out with your child as you're also trying to unconsciously pass it along. It's like Oh shake it off your fine. Everything's Okay and partly because that was how we made it and made it okay and so we want our kids to be an unloving thing and this is really important so if the if any of your identifying with this blue side of the spectrum it's like I think your parents were really really train. The toughen you up and deal with the world this isn't we're not throwing your parents under the bus at all but at the same time we are trying to be empathic about the experience variance of when you just are kid and you need something and somebody's telling you to brush it off. That can be a real mess yeah. I think it's tough because I know I know I know. My parents love me yes because of how much care they gave to my upbringing and and trips and and all that kind of thing but you don't the day-to-day basis it was more like try to be used amount of trouble as you possibly can watered sleep right. I had the basic basic necessities once they excel spreadsheet is check. Check junk then after that that's it. I was on my own. Don't don't ask me for or anything else so becky say more about what you've heard. How you have applied needed. Oh had so much fun so initially I said. I think it's interesting. Jean my first reaction to finding out that I was part of the Blue Spectrum Club club it was so interesting to me because I was listening to the podcast that you did on that blue side of the spectrum avoidance. I guess it's what you call it dismissive and ago. I I had a client. Come in and tell me hey I am not blue. You think I'm blue but I'm actually INDIGO. It's a little bit better than blue exactly. That's kind of the point is that it's not your only one thing. That is a gradient yeah. That's so true though I don't want to diverge too much but I listened to the blue. I call identified empowering. I call it the blue podcast listen to the blue cotton podcast and I was like Oh my goal line. I'm dismissive and avoidance and I I turned it off. I couldn't listen to anymore ones. I was like once I realized when I heard you say you're independent and you think you you got everything covered but like you really do make was why was hearing. I was like Oh shit like literally turned it off. I was like I can't listen anymore. This is Lee Mary Mary I uni dishes so Mike on that was like I suck I turned it off and then I was talking to someone that same weekend and they're like Oh yeah I was into the podcasts and I told you identify with the blue and I was like what I do too and so it was so weird ear to talk to somebody who had listened to the podcast the same one I had just listened to and they related in the same exact way that I did. It was really really nice and so it kind of got me back to the podcast to listen to the rest of it. Well let me ask you this becky. What did it feel shaming and how he described it like. Why are you needed? Did the turn it off. Did you have a shame experience. I don't think I felt ashamed. You know what I remember feeling was overwhelmed so it wasn't a shaming feeling but I did feel so oh overwhelmed with insight like you were beginning to reflect like all of a sudden. I realized Oh shit. I don't have it altogether. It's all a facade insist. It's all facade. I'm not independent. I'm I don't know what zipped up is. What you say and that like broke. My heart and I felt like such a failure here I was. I thought I had it all together. I don't need anybody's help. I am doing my own thing and I got under control -ation chips. I don't make anybody anybody friends. Whatever friends are only good for Margaritas but then I realized it was actually something that may be needed a little bit of adjustment. Maybe some work and so that's what this conversation with a friend who said she was also blue. Had the the same kind of experience. A rolling similar experience to me made me go back to the podcast and think well. Maybe I need to keep listening and find out. Do I have a chance at surviving overweight can overcome this blue ness okay so we can free so notice that as someone someone who identifies US blue that when you get emotionally upset what did you do. I shut it down. I said by okay I need. Did you exactly screw you. PODCAST fuck you. I'm not blue blue awesome right so just notice like this is actually a really important point this what we do when we're on the blue side and we begin to get effectively wound up our impulse is to just turn off whatever's happening and then we can go right back to comfort so you're making a really important point but then with support and with help talking to somebody. I mean it. It always helps to have someone be able to like you can relate to like oh my God. I'm not the only one feeling this way right and so I went back and I listened to the rest after the podcasts and thank God I did. I'm not trying to plug therapists sunsets or listen to it all the time so I went back and listen to it and thankfully and and they had some advice for like how you can kind of tips for how to relate with people in your life who might not understand what it means to be in that blue tone of the attachment spectrum and honestly it sounds really silly. I feel silly saying it but it really did kind of change my life from maybe not my life but my perspective it really really did. I was so excited because I decided to try this little experiment with my daughter. Her and I think in the podcast so your daughter is held. She's sixteen okay and that's just her and I and she's living with me like ninety. Five percent of the time and one of my big fears is that she's going to be like me. I mean you know because I'm a little blow. A little closed off zipped zipped up. This is a super important point that you're making. Becky is like the unconscious intergenerational transmission attachment issues yeah so that's a whole other topic. I think but anyway so I thought I would try this experiment with my daughter which is actually kind of fun in the podcast they suggested and this is my interpretation. I could have a little bit wrong but they suggested that instead of being like a little bit cold or a little bit off putting to people in your life you guys is talked about romantic part nurse but I related to my daughter was to actually be like welcoming happy and you know and engaging instead of just a little closed off so for about a week when my daughter got home from school she was getting home later than me because of her extracurricular activities evidence but so when she got home I was home already and she walked in the door and I wanted to be really happy. So here and you belong. Tell me you belong in. This family haven't seen you in so long. It's so good to see you and I would say hey. How was your day and sometimes you know depending on the situation. I would go up and I would give her a hug. I would say how are you. How was your day with a smile on my face and it was sincere. I wasn't play acting it but I really had a you just making it more explicit than you might otherwise right yeah before you know it was kind of implicit like I of course I was happy to have her home is might give her the head not like hey no actually usually when she would get home. I'd be like you know complaining about something How the so like incites stain on your shirt what happened I mean or she gave me her lunch bag. It'd be like you didn't eat your lunch. What's wrong with if you love what you're saying so like real and honest yeah so anyway what was super exciting about doing this experiment was she was in such an amazing mood and honestly. I feel like I'm making some crazy plug like an infomercial show or something but it was really true and I was so excited to Tau and ensue that their podcast works I I was. I was so excited to give them a testimonial because what I did with my daughter and being happy to see her when she got home from school and enthusiastically greeting her when she came in the door. It totally changed how she was afterwards like you know sitting around at home after her dinner doing her homework. She just was happy. I could see it in her demeanor and it was it was crazy. I'm just so touched tearing you say this and this is nothing about it and from our show this is really about something that has moved you and your heart and that you can feel as your heart opens the there's there's like neuro. Wi Fi you can feel her heart opening at so. It's like almost an you can describe right because you don't know my daughter and you don't know. I know that I could tell the differences but I think anyone who is apparent. Oh believe me I think there's listeners all over the world that are notting with you right now and they know exactly what you're talking about. I mean honestly I feel like I was some crazy lab technician doing some weird experiment. I hate the thought of doing social with my daughter but it so rewarding actually yeah and you have more to say about work as an ex and other experiment that he did but you know when I have gone to schools and talked about this and one the gave the silly example just so love what you're saying Becky. It's like so grounded and real world and had given this example of you know. I'm learning in this stuff again. This not naturally in my body. I'm having the like top down like do it. Just like you like it's not natural but but when you do it you can feel it feels really different and my son was young and I said okay you can play like at whatever eight twenty we are going to bed so you can you know you've got between now now oh to play and so. I come in at say eight twenty or eight fifteen or something like okay. Let's wrap it up and he bursts into tears and he's just like but on not ready you know and because of the training right like my natural thing would be like well tough you know. I WANNA go to bed but instead so I'm like well. What do you mean you're not ready and so I began to try to join him and try to find out what his experience was and basically what he was what I understood at that point was that he had spent this whole time setting up his legacy to play and so that wasn't counting as playing right and so he was really upset because he didn't get to play but for me my perspective he's in there like putting us choice his guys where they want as a parent you're looking forward to that eight twenty eight thirty or so with the change. I made was like instead of countering him or just setting the boundary. Or what have have you like. I really made the conscious effort to see it from his eyes and I'm like Oh like you thought you're going to get to set up the whole scene scene and get really set. We're all the army guys. Were like ready to whatever it was actually it's Lord of the Rings. They're all going to be able to you know the the goblins and they were going to do their thing and then I interrupted you. You're naturally upset about that. Because then it feels like you didn't get to play at all whereas from my perspective it was just about the clock right and when the clock at the time management exactly but what was different was I took the time to slow down and be like oh I get why you're upset certain core and then I could comfort him. It was like Oh that's disappointing. 'cause now you can't play it all out and then we were able to problem solve about like less. Save it just as it is an. Let's wake up. Maybe a little early so you can keep it going like I was so much better but I really just like you becky had to like shift it into this other way of relating instead of it being like Oh he's challenging my authority or like just some of these more limiting beliefs. It's like let me I I really get in his shoes and like really understand. He's not just define me. He really had a different experience what was happening and it was only like. I just like you had to like it wasn't what came up naturally and I really had to like almost like get myself to stop the natural impulse into really ridge over he didn't I WANNA be a soldier. Who says you know yeah not surprisingly I was raised by a military father. You overcame that exactly excuse me so. This is very hopeful message and so you had a work example. I think Oh yeah so well of course not being happy to just try it out. At Home Tom. I had to found other ways to think about people in my life that I spend a lot of time with lose relationships could improve the relationships I had with people that could improve and I thought about my office a serious blue person. You might not think about that very often right now. We're trying to do your task. It weren't GonNa be left alone but your podcast made me realize like that's not the place. I need to be as comfortable as it is for me. I know it's not exactly like a productive yeah. It can be kind of isolated. It is actually completely isolating and what's interesting is at at work in our office. This I am a little bit isolated from the rest of our group. Do you mean physically cow thing basically right up yeah so actually that's a really great really interesting. It makes a really important difference. It really does because sometimes I get people coming over to my side of the building and they're like just wanted to come over and make sure you were okay. Okay we have a while so when we think of that an attachment world bid for connection. It's a what it's a bid for connection. Oh like it's not really that they thought you were dead right or something right. It's it's like I think of like a little fern tendrils but a blue person that would know I'm not what does I'm so happy in my little corner of the world where no one reporter was dead. 'cause I'm so happy career. I've got my window understand this beautiful so that's all what she's describing us this offer regulatory. You're in your own kind automatic world. No I'm not I'm with you one hundred percent. Are you labeling me now but it's part of it. What I'm saying like many people I know identifying with both of us and that that like hey. How are you like there that we don't quite understand yeah incoming. There's an incoming something. Do you nate something right. You're coming over here because texted right. I've sent you like eight mu emails today. You know I'm here okay so that that was the old now. What is the net was the old okay so in my job I work. I'm supposed to collaborate right with a Lotta people but of course because of the industry I work in. We do a lot of collaboration by email but I decided that I was going to start. I'm going actually actually going over and talking to people that I work with. Don't know so bleeding. Edge is what I'm doing and and so I would go anyway bleeding bleeding edge bleeding not sure why bleeding the word oh my gosh because leading edge is not enough. You believe you okay listeners pay attention. This is so awesome. That's exactly maybe cutting edge so cutting edge isn't enough has to be we yeah. We want blood bleeding edge. That's right because we're sick of us. We have a fever or have lost an arm or you're bleeding out and EXAC back. You have something to point to. It can't just be that like you know look at the blood. That's Pru Lordy. It's horrible. I know I know okay. It's almost as bad as synergy. I see Senator and she have you heard energy. I hope synergistic no bird but I don't know how you're referring to. It's horrible. People want to come and create synergies with its so useless that kind kind of like morale as a blue person. I'm like I don't need synergy long. I just got to do my job. What is my Task Excel L. Spreadsheet. You're getting in the way of my synergy does not fit into me. Call them what I had to do. I wasn't told synergy was part of it. Change my job description corruption and increase my salary. If synergy had been part of it I would not have taken this job but you know you got to Get Out and see people and it will change your life but hold on so here's a blue person listening right okay and they're like yeah. They're telling you that if I yeah what is the problem I'm what are these needy people over here okay so you're having this after experience. What is that what after experience after insight into Value L. U. Of Do you mean when I saw the light and I was walking okay so when I saw I I started walking towards a lie. I realized I needed to get out and engage. My Co workers my colleagues not because my brain was telling because your excel spreadsheet set let go and wanted to engage with my colleagues. I just felt like maybe maybe that would help me get the Green Zone which is is supposedly the place to be the it's Nirvana as what I hear Lana so I was like okay well. Actually it was all about the experiment okay. Let let me see how this experiment would go so I decided I was going to go to work and I was going to log into my workstation and is going to go out into the world and see what my colleagues were doing so went over to their side as the office and physically walked actually logged over. I put tennis tennis shoes on I because I didn't want to wear out my wedges walked. Put my tennis shoes and walked over to that side of the building and I was like. Hey hi. How's it going and I would go with your forgot. When you look like you know that's like picks yes and then my boss was like what are you doing over there. Get back to your area no but so I walked over there and I would just go check in with people like had a reason to check in with them because we were working on projects together so I went over to one person. I'd be like hey the how's it going with this. Blah Blah Blah and we will talk face to face which was odd but did you find that enjoyable yeah. I'm thinking about it right. I have to think about it. Was it enjoyable. I think it was rewarding. Okay that's yeah right. It's not going to actually make the stretch to enjoy but I do. I think it's real value added you. It was really weird. Actually is that I find why now that I really liked talking to people face to face and sometimes I get annoyed when they're not at the office and they're working from home. Your need is activate O'Brien. Mike what you're working from home today. That's bullshit rep correct so okay so if we translate that that might be that you're a little disappointed that you may have been hoping for little contact. Sometimes it's important right to look so one of the eye and say why the fuck you didn't get this done on time. You were supposed to have gotten this done a week ago. What's going on and then they can't lie to you because they're looking right at your face right but I think for your actual habit that you would actually we're looking forward to seeing them and that you may have been a little disappointed making a really big stretch. We we still have more work to do you know uh-huh I enjoy working with people and being part of the team and I think that so much more work gets done when you you can communicate face to face because there's a back and forth there's a really nice back and forth that happens when you're talking to a person directly that doesn't happen when you're emailing or IM ING or whatever you're doing. It doesn't happen when you're face to face and now I find that I'm disappointed when I can't talk to someone on face to face okay so I'm GonNa risk something. Add something if that's okay and you can. You can correct me if I'm wrong but here's what I was thinking was like if you notice it's easier to make it about productivity like it's more effective right but this is so great great 'cause live right the like but when I pushed and said Oh you're disappointed like because as a blue person it's like that's not our language. That's not how we think that's not how we experience it and so then I'm putting something into you. That isn't your right. It's productive. It wasn't enjoyable. It wasn't productive down so I love is but you're discerning like actually there's value in re enter you. You're noticing an expansion and an interest and other people and the value of facetime. I totally get that now also not just with talking to people face to face but I'm also I feel like such a loser but I'm like think I'm also so much more open to making phone calls like before I would avoid a phone call at all costs and now when I see a phone number pop up on my screen I mean I think Oh. This might be something. I need to take because you know what's always and this will not have said this a little while back but it's sometimes it's really important to just talk to pick up the phone. Becky I promise you we've got a ton and a wildly amazing. Number of listeners were so happy. Thanks thanks to each of you but I promise you at least like what's the statistic a whole bunch a big percentage. That's a really that's a very good young yeah right but I'm saying that is I want to be inclusive because again we do it on a spectrum and at any moment any of us could be so. I really feel like so many people are nodding with you and are so appreciative of you giving voice to actually feels yeah but you know what's interesting though is as I was listening to your blue podcast while I appreciate it I wanted more. Actually I felt like I need more like. Tell me more about this. When I was listening to your podcasts on the red side of the spectrum I really really found myself identifying with that part too so I felt a little bit like I had a split personality and then I guess I kind of realized like like if it's a spectrum right then we kind of at any given time depending on the circumstances you might fall anywhere on that spectrum. I'm probably I don't know if I'm ever going to be in the Green Zone but so I agree I go to blue. tee-shirt teacher earned security which which is the green but becky I can't. I'm just like so in heaven right now because you're making Oliver points for us. which is that the reason we put it from a category that you are avoided? Are you are preoccupied is where really one we're wanting to change the language to make it not pathological blue and red and all that stuff by pathological like if I'm a dismissive person that makes me feel all defensive right versus like I tend towards the Blue Saul so just labels in general right. That's Commie dismissive late. I'M NOT THAT PERSON X. That's it's on an identity right. We're actually as S. clinicians. We really want to move out like part of what we're doing is we're mining the research and the research has to have categories but what we're doing is we're translating translating it into no we're. We aren't just one thing and you're making that point so well. It's like as you listen to the read you read. You can identify that. That's what we're saying. That's why we put it on a continuum. It's like in certain circumstances and this way. We can begin to learn about ourselves when we tend towards read like so for me. I'll give you an example. Is that like if I'm I'm mildly aroused or threatened but if it's just minor league a threatening event for a blue well. Let's just say I don't want to be a blue person. I don't want you to be a blue person but you might tend towards blue right. That's different. That's where you Kinda live. That's right but what I'm saying like if the threat that makes an again we're Malaysia Salako social situation because I know that's what makes me feel. Threatened is inviting me to a party where I don't know a mile veteran but it is right but it's GonNa then activate you even Damore read because now you're like interested in connecting but you're nervous about it. Is that right. If it's a mild threat this that's is how does for me like if it's if I'm mildly threatening to get more preoccupied but the higher threat if I met and we don't typically say oh I'm being threatened right now. It's we you just enact the blue knack the red so but what we're trying to do is help you be more conscious and so and if you could see me. I'm like flipping my hands together like it's the I'm done with you. It's kind of like what it's it's becky turning off the podcast the go now. I gotta go. Now is a higher for me I think everybody's a little different but for me the higher threat I'm GonNa go to blew the lower threat. I will tend to get a little more preoccupied and that holds true for the kids the research on the kids like if they have hope that the parent will come back that they're going to be more red if we're insecure but if we don't have hope hope it all if we've just like this is painful too hard they were. GonNa shut all the way off and be like. I don't need you at all. Screw this whole thing color screw the ball well. That's the that's the blue is seriously yeah and so I'm mixing for those of you. That are little more like following all of this. We're using this spectrum. We're we're also adding poly. Vega theory you and Arousal to this bass pro is a lot of rations becky's like Donald do it at the spectrum right. Now we see the Blue Ooh over here on the left leg because left brain excel spreadsheet coal linear logic goal. It's more thinking and then ten as it goes. Green Green is in the Middle Yup and the green is light integrate oh the lights on always shy yeah and again and and the and the greener flies and Unicorn but it doesn't mean that we're so happy it's simply means that when you're not activated well when when crap happens and we can be dismissed or be of what it's worth flexible the more you're close to the middle. You're flexible Green Zone. Yeah and some like shit hits the fan right. What what are you going to do well again. It depends on the shit but like for example a secure person which is what becky saying is in the Green Zone skits. It gets into graduate school works together. Guess what it does. It makes you preoccupied because you your whole job is to figure out what is the professors want from you and to give it to them so that's just an example example of like you're still secure person but you're going to get very attuned outside of yourself and secure person and you're in the workplace and you get the promotion and you get activated because of the expectations that are put on you or yeah. I mean that's a great example so if we have I've been raised in the green then even if we get a little preoccupied or a little blue if we get if we get a little bit where we're more reserved and we hold their cards close to our chest or if we get a little more activated the ideas that were flexible and we're doing that based on the environment and that very quickly as the environment resolves. We're going to move back to green and be able to go like Oh. I got really so it's totally normal exit to be kind of your natural state that you're in agreeing leans on stuff happens you might go read or read or towards a blue four health for a little bit that's considered and then you kind of regularly it gets back in your natural state of green or what exactly right so. I don't have to necessarily be worried as a parent if I like of course I want my daughter to be in the Green Zone because I want to feel like I've done in. DC This graded right but if it's finals and she's stressing her grades and test and all the stuff that you can go a little bit to the red or a little bit to the blue whatever works for her and teenagers will no it's completely normal what you're relying on his can she turn to you as a secure base and like when she's in trouble that she talked to you or does she find another secure because as they get older it's not always us it might be a girlfriend or boyfriend whoever but basically Kimchi US relationship so much cheap yeah as she able to turn to someone on that score she feels safe with so. What would it look like if she didn't have that person or people in her life? Well that might be where there's more like what we're describing us. Is that like if you can fluidly move along the whole spectrum you're in good shape but as we get further out to the edges more and more blue more and more bright red we get more inflexible and so basically with that's a sign of is that how we see ourselves and how relationships is kind of monotone tone then we distort it a little bit so somebody might say hey babe. I love you and they might hear. They're just saying that because they know that Matt or you see what I'm saying. Things get distorted and there's not so much flexibility it gets it gets either. Amoeba like on one side or various. When does that go back. I mean once like maybe the threat or the uncomfortable like stressful. Situation gets removed. Would that go back or or would they still hang out in that area well. If you're actually talking about true attachment disruptions we will Kinda gravitate and we're not not even talking about disorganized attachment. Disruption would be something like your parents leaving or you're a divorce or something like that or those are possibilities for sure that can cause some some but really attachment disruptions happen between zero and two okay very early so it's the it's basically so my daughter's life. Life was stable and pretty happy between your own to. I don't have to worry about her. I know your daughter and love her dearly. She's very solid kid and thank God does your on a two years. Thank you yeah exactly and also even your zero to two was difficult. Our brains are very plastic and we can continue can you to grow and what we WANNA. Do is hang out more in the green more often and then as we shift red or blue like sort of understand more like Oh oh I got. I'm really nervous. You need to really focus to make sure that the hanging out in the green is happening. I mean that's like a goal of yours with making sure. Life isn't to struggle as much as possible becky. I think your story is the most beautiful story of like the beginning of this like you can have more uh and that you didn't even know that you need more but like as you as you gain more of this interpersonal connection you can find it rewarding so. I think that's that's where we're going with. All of this is that like if we tend to be a little more in our head we get to feel more vulnerable with people and feel safe and then if we're a little bit more like chaotic an Kameda and up on the ceiling that we also get to feel more grounded with ourselves. We don't have to have that person validate that we're okay so that's the rough off idea so all of that is fantastic and I love love love. These examples and one of the things becky was really proud of is like I can't remember if we said this already beginning but like like this is all about single people that aren't looking for romance but they have real relationships in the world and that this science can impact act everybody not just hasn't it's really not about just romantic relationships we can also apply this up to our parents and down interesting yeah and and there's another podcast that we mentioned all of this will put in our notes but aging and an attachment and how that again our attachment issues get stirred stirred up more when we're in threat so it's not like when everything's good we probably all look pretty good but it's actually when there's threat so when people age and they begin to their bodies begin to lose is function and their minds begin to get looser their attachment stuff comes up again just like in a break-up or birth of a child or you're our child heading the age we were. We were had our trauma. All those things will reignite the attachment issues. It doesn't mean that you haven't worked on them in therapy and that you haven't done. I'm great work. It just means it's another. I think of it like instead of like a circle like Oh. I'm good oh crap. I'm bad I'm good again. I think more like a corkscrew. DESCRU- so like I'm good and then like oh I'm in the dumps and all these things are happening to me but when I come back out of it I've moved forward because I've learned from there her come back out at a different place and even if I go back down it's all progressive and I'm mapping my internal world better and I'm also mapping giving you becky better and people close to me better so that I can feel more secure in the world. So if you don't respond to my tax I'm not going to be like becky hates me. I might say Becky's a little overwhelmed and this is what he does yeah. It's interesting that you mentioned the corkscrew time because when I was in college because we want to have a glass of wine as well it made me think of was when I was in in college. I was taking classes on literary theory. It seemed like we always define nine female time as cyclical and mail time as linear but now you're seeing this concept of a corkscrew which I think is super super interesting because you know oh I do i. I do think that it's not just as simple as linear so I think linear might be linear with some hills observe something some man mic drop you definitely great. I mean because everything's going right towards non binary really really like all these different places and so this idea of the attachment spectrum is the same thing right. That's there's nothing linear nothing circular right. Oh it's a it's a hybrid right hybrid. I I mean I feel kind of silly doing it but it seems like spectrum applies to so many things I saw I listen to this interview where they were talking about psychosis being a spectrum so so you're not just psychotic or not psychotic. It's a spectrum actress psychosis yeah I in my life. It's not that easy. You can't just say and I think that goes for everything sexuality. You know you name it. That's right gender and just to wrap up like that's a really great example of like why that the Blue Sangley I'm good. What's the problem that you can hear now now that it's deactivating curiosity st activating the spectrum by just brushing your hands on like what I'm healthy. What's the problem? Oh yeah like you talk about. zipped up like imagine being zipped up in your mummy sleeping bag san you have no exposure to the world at all zip the AH but you're also not getting anything else happening. There's no continuum. They're right right. You're just it's this isolated so we are ruining ruining blue for so many people in this moment just like it's been ruined for you right. They say the ruins drinking cannot this cast is GonNa ruin. Avoid we didn't attachment. There will be no more zippers and on that note. I think you've been so wonderful to make this point. Eh from a different perspective we so appreciate you Becky Mandeville. Why do you keep calling my name out later because I want the world to know. I'm going to get all these facebook facebook friend request now so if you would like to find Beckmann show we'll see if whether or not she actually actually adds her contact information tech check out my bumble profile we all should do you should all like try to finding during give her kisses on the cheek or just like adore her and stuff to like mass with her blue status. I'm not zipped up in this sleeping bag but I'm still just a little zipped uh-huh so we're working on that and thank you so much becky for sharing your the influence that this podcast is had but also for really. I think that you have inspired so many people right now. I can almost imagine the letters we're going to get we get them after most podcasts and also for our listeners those of you who have been in writing and encouraging us it means so much to us and this is why we're doing this. This is why we brought becky on this a labor of love and we hope to continue tenue and honestly I have to tell you. There's been several messages that we've gotten that were basically lost in space but in particular there's some people from Turkey that have reached out to us. We want to say thank you. 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Episode 277 - George Brett Pooped His Pants

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Episode 277 - George Brett Pooped His Pants

"It is. Gentlemen. Oh, come to the rocks. Patters? By black rifle coffee dot com. Oh, man. Stored itsel. I got a real find story that sell about two pieces shits next to me who were on Ross Patterson revolution today. I Jack Mandeville for for the folks watching at home video on YouTube, and or itunes Jack would have your shirt again. I have no real value other than to just kind of highlight my discussing body. So that's why I'm here. I'm doing my part while I would say pre Halloween. You're not wearing a costume. This is actually a real life. This is I'm underway model. Jared looks like. Boy rerun who you like who you going with there is that. No, this is just what I wanna wear every day. Are you in that stays your life? Now, I've had this many sense. How rich do you have to be to start wearing shit like that on a daily basis? The only thing that's missing is Anita gold, James. Yeah. You're gonna get one. I still feel like you need a pinkie ring to maybe ping ring thinking about a pink. And I need my mullet grow in. Yeah. Yeah. That's gonna take a while though. I know I'm so sad. I wish I could grow hair rowing hair is is a difficult process. And any girl out there? I've said this million times don't fucking get your haircut shorts because you're immediately regret it usually it's over a boyfriend or break up or something like that. And then you have to grow it out. Good luck. If this motherfucker can't grow mullet and two months. Imagine you trying to grow your fucking locks back knocking has won the mullet. So then Negga had not going to happen. Why the moat? Let me let me axe you that. I think it's time. Evan. Evan always calls me as wildcard I need to look the part of the wildcard hairstyle nickel. I want someone to just judge me. So bad right off the bat. Just be like what the fuck is this? I have a I, you know, I have a new bet with Dan on the sports show. About looking like Steve Prefontaine, the rest of your blonde hair and must. Yeah. And he had a darker must. Black moustache than any blonde hair. So if Oregon doesn't cover spread I'm going to be looking like Steve Prefontaine than wrestling. Voyles. It could be could be Saturday. The first Oregon the first word games, Saturday nights nine and a half points. If they don't cover. I could be Prefontaine it real lose. If they don't cover the spread. Prefontaine most do you also have to wear the get up to like green tracksuits and everything like that. No, no. I can I can it's just the blonde hair and the mustache the black moustache, and that'll be my look for the remainder of eighteen still. Oh, yes. That caravan get here. It's coming up fast Renault that fourteen thousand strong and its would take care of that caravan is probably about four to five Cebu eighty seven. I feel like Alabama. You wanna send we before we got on there? You guys were talking about sending the state of Alabama to send a citizen. Hey, alabama. You guys got this one arm up with whatever you in the head to the border. It's on you. They're arming of with Popeye's chicken knives from fucking. Grandfathers kinda wanna get some chick fillet boy. There was something you showed me a posting in New York City with stop the Trump people make you American trash out of NYC, and it was a guy with this sleeves cutoff holding Chick-fil-A flag confederate flag tattoo, an Trump hat. Why the fuck would you bring Chick-fil-A into that? I know like that's a that's a weird flex Chick-fil-A. Like, dude, it is more time consuming and costly to go to Chick-fil-A than it is just a roll through fucking McDonalds and grab some nuggets. I don't know if I would go that far I would say Chick-fil-A as fast food establishment is the most efficient, I think fishing too. But that the line long. The service makes up for it though out. You know lines are always out the ask because their service makes up for they have great service there if you had to choose one the rest of your life gun to head who who do you go with in the fast food market. Oh subway shut the fuck up. Yeah. No, one says subway, you know, why why because they got pizza too. So if I'm choosing. I'm choosing either get a sandwich pizza. I've got a pretty good choice. That sounds worse than Red Lobster. I'm saying boy, you want to get into that Red Lobster story that goes still row Faulk me. So I'm doing another sweet rap video. This one's with Matt best. You guys ask for it. And we're giving it to you. It's about red lobsters cheddar biscuits. But we had to go there and eat and shoot. I don't remember the food being that bad awful across the board. When was the last time you ate there? I think is child. Really? Oh, yeah. And I think, but here's the thing is child. Maybe I didn't know any better because. Crazy amount of money. Lobster was the day foreign grow bergh's incident happened that got him in the middle of owner. Are you serious? Yes. Various evid memory. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the day. My friend major grade I got phone call while we were at Red Lobster Red Lobster Faulk read. Love does not. You. Don't have good memories with. No, no. I haven't been back since since you know, man, when we were there today because we look we got everything across the board. I ordered almost everything from the menu at one point. None of it was good even the potato looks like, hey, kill it. So I just had idea. Should we take that photo? Dave took of me and make a Craigslist ad for a babysitter. Like babysitter. With this. Look, right. Yeah. Yeah. Like just just like list of qualifications like on the best. Babysitter. There is I stole one of those from Dave I stole a pick of the cat who is the doctor with pregnant women. It was a massage in the stomach and just said Cole normal day. It was. Oh, yeah. I put that up. We're really creeped out by it. Be normal. Dave's didn't post it. I mid wife's. Is rubbing revenue fucking belly. Oh, cool runs babysitting. Like make an ad uncle Ron's bay, and you could just put of. Thank babysitting that kid shut the fuck up. He's getting a finger. It takes a village specially wrong. It takes a village of Ron he'll sleep right with your your child. So they go to bed. Not that. Michael Jackson, where your kids to sleep. Walks in with a dip long full of Charlotte and the headlock. Oh, cool. Ron's cheap babysitting. He'll put your kids to sleep. Ziplock back next your kids will tap out. Without go around. This series of ads, but it'd be so good. Runs cheap. Yeah. Your kids will tap out. I got Charlotte pin down while she's screaming. She's duct taped to the wall. He's got his own syringe kit and everything is there's porn on background. Hold nip your watch, his uncle Ron's. What if I made a trifled pamphlet? Local rods Jeep babysitting. Started putting those in pamphlet or. Rip off a piece of paper. Good droll. You got you got to put him in like, really snooty neighborhoods. You know? Brooklyn mom types for someone to find of trifled pamphlet on Iran's. God like you said it's got a photo of her taped to the wall with me Olding my watch. Yeah. Are you on eastern essential or Ron's? You tell me you be the judge. You're only talking that accent? Look, I got two rules here. Okay. It's got me one shut the fuck up to shit fuck up. It's gonna figure me with my feet up sipping something. Well child is pushing a lawnmower. Alkyl? Ron's put them to work. Bottle. Evan Williams next to him. Or the lawnmower is upside down the sitting in the shot is rushing out. Yeah. And I'll go Ron just shrugging shoulders. Knows drive. It would be so cool. The best you're rich enough to wear tracksuit, you rich enough to make pamphlets like that here. That's what I dedicate some time to this pamphlet because. Just sounds. I was gravel with them. And. I would leave them places. God you're in. You're like an old beat up like seventies Astro van smoking cigarettes with a kid no seatbelt to sit in the back. So. What? Picture of my face hold. They hold drink and I've middle finger, and that's my business card. Hello, cheap babysitting. And the middle finger is like the hashtag nexus was number one. States america. Oh my God. This would be great. I use this finger thing. So fuck off or it's gone. We need to film a commercial for raunchy babysit Evie great. The Giardi your kids being real pains in the ass real pains in the Dick's not anymore. Congratulations. I'll take their pain all take that pain out of your dick. Just keep turning into the camera. Call uncle Ron's cheap babysitting. One eight hundred Ron Ron run run run one eight hundred four four four Ron Ron. Oh cleanser. I'll clean your kid. I'm real good clean. Spraying child with a hose a pressure washer. I'll clean your baby. 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I see film and a lotta shit. Vet TV, you're working with. Yeah. I've been doing a lot of stuff with them lately. I've been out there with Donnie. And the guys we did we just round Donnie in the boys. The most of them are gay all of them. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or by? Yeah. By I didn't know that quite yet quite a few of them. Yeah. But we've shots accepts odes. And it was really fun. It's kind of an the office meets mash show that we just filmed a few months ago, when's that gonna drop I they said December maybe early two thousand nineteen they're cutting together the episodes right now. Okay. Yeah. Really go. I know I enjoy it on the move on the I appreciate their humor. Yeah. I didn't do a love it. I did to you were talking earlier right before we got on the show. You loved an episode jeered nine. Did we talked about jacking often Buzz Aldrin by far? What is how many episodes of drinking three thirty something? Yeah. By far, my favorite light years ahead of all the other ones. Yeah. What the content while you're in a special place. For that. It was it Las Vegas. I think we're Nola. We were we were in the kitchen bed. No way. Yeah. Fuck that got weird that night. Did you see I man? No, you didn't. It bombs and they asked role because they cut the American is. And by the way, they asked Buzz Aldrin, when he thought about, you know, fucking dirty ass buzz. He didn't give a fuck. He was just like. About America paid for the mission. Fook? Yeah. We put the flag down like fuck. You gossiping you Canadian fuck. I mean in say that, but he was real close where it was just like buzzes real, touch and go these days, you seem on at TSA inside the airport. Yeah. TMZ? But if you are the second manned ever stepped foot on the moon. I one is dead. Yeah. And he was he was a quiet guy pilot. So it's like just get over it. You know, why was Neil Armstrong so boring. Jared, I don't know you don't know that answer because most pilots are like fucking fun. Your buddies tool, and those guys are fucking black awesome. Yeah. Why was why was Neil Armstrong really one of them? You know takes one of their jets to this caravan. Boy and just drops what what kind of very genocidal lately. Drop for fourteen thousand people eighty seven's and that'll that'll take out all of them. So eighty seven is a cluster munition Dave's gonna pull it up for you. Right now, it covers about one hundred square yeller one hundred yard radius. Have you ever called one of those in your? Your career. These are these are hard to get if you play the video right there. If he can see bombs are hard to get. Yeah. Because I mean, they are so atrocious. Like like, it's you. Why is it called a cluster bomb? Cebu cluster bomb unit. Okay. Because watch it'll split open here and all the little bomblets will come out and you've got now used to teach. I should know this off. Roese? There's a lot. There's a couple of hundred. So let me ask you this on the on the Wiki of the eighty seven because I forgot how many little bombs on on a plane like that is that just one. Are you just dropping one? No, no, no someplace can carry F16.'s can carry four of them. I believe no shit. Fourteen thousand dollars. Yeah. Where's it? Where's it showing? A lot of mom Litz are in their say are you allowed to buy that shit Jerry Jarrett for the military two hundred to two hundred two bum? So little little bomblets. And they look there little grenades there. Metal ball with scores in them. So they they explore a two three rag. No, no, no. You're talking. You're talking like this. Okay. Wow. Yeah. So yeah, you know. Hundred yards. I mean. Yeah, you threw out you throw out five or six of those and they care vans. Going to be a lot of women and children. You could take care of right there. Yeah. You've been very genocidal lately. Well, I. I don't know. Maybe look everybody goes to their genocidal. I saw I saw reading all these Liam means biography earlier weird people that are coming up here. Why they're going to be coming up to start some shit. I know. So doesn't it seem funded to you? How do you? How do you eat and fuck and Dr. Because that's that's a four. Why why the other countries are even like entertaining like Mexico should be just kicking them out? Not let them in. Yeah. I don't understand. Why they why are they able to just walk through a everywhere. And then we're supposed to deal with it. Because that's what they're gonna do. You're going to get to the border. We're gonna stop it with the army because we've already sent the army down there. I can't even go to the fucking Bahamas. That's going to be some. That's going to be some you're gonna have fucking CNN viewing them over there with my God, look at the horrible conditions of all these people. Yeah. And you're like well. Started walking. Yeah. Fuck them. Fuck them. Forrest Gump thing where they were picking people up on the way, or they all started from point A, if you want my honest opinion, again, I'm wearing a doctor's costume for anybody watching on video and sunglasses right now, my professional medical opinion on this was that this is funded. I mean, look the mid terms coming up here in about ten days. Same with the bombs that are been mailed to everybody is seems funded. We to reach a point where food is becoming a huge problem in the world not enough of it. Really? I think we we've completely ignored agricultural needs or projections. Like, I think that's going to be the one that sneaks up on us. I don't I don't believe that there's going to be a catastrophic world event or something like that which is completely possible. But I think food situation is. Going to be a huge problem. Because I think it's going to be a problem for Jack you looking at this physique now. Well, I got a lot of Bush's baked beans up in my loft in downtown San Antonio. So I'm good crisis. Bush's big beans. I have nine cans of Bush's baked beans right now. My when the food situation starts fighting everybody. That's when everybody changes their tune. And there's no more oh, come into our country and everything like that. It's going to be like, yeah, we're all taking care of the state of Alabama over there. Yeah. Jack says the state Alabama can take care of pretty much any any problem? We'll send Mississippi to the Canadian border. We'll have we'll have Alam needs at the Canadian border. Canada's marching down. They're not doing anything hanging out. They got a happy there. Yeah. A lot of land on us even Vancouver. I have no I hear it's a great city. It's nice aesthetically. However, they're living like it's worse than LA. So if you want real estate there, you're looking at like twelve hundred square foot place. It's like one point two million. You're just like Jesus Christ. Those those weird property brothers. They look to homosexual brothers. Yeah. I know you're talking about who they look identical like John waters or something like that. No, they're they're good looking. But they're kind of boring. They all those property brothers. They flip houses or they're young. Yeah. They to gay dudes and. Two gay dudes. So whenever they if you watch property brothers. Everybody tries to guess this. When I watch it always like, look, we can get this house for you. It's listed at nine hundred and fourteen thousand we offered nine twelve and you got it. I mean, there's no deals whatsoever. Going on. You're like, we the fuck are you? Oh, you're in Canada. That's why. So there is no bargaining either on real estate up there apparently. And my first events I shot something in Vancouver. The guy who picked me up with the taxi drivers like why are year? He's like go to my Tim Hortons. I've got to Tim Horton's. And I was like what do you mean you have to Tim Horton's? And he goes I own two of them. And I was just like no, no fence. And why the fuck are you driving a cab? And he goes, you don't know about real estate prices. And I was like known is like my house is like one point six million two kids. And I was like how big is your house, and it was like it was eighteen hundred square feet. Oh my God. You go nine hundred thirty nine. Why would you live in Vancouver? Winnipeg is a beautiful city. It's crazy. I don't understand anybody that feels that they have to live in LA or these places. So tell you this for Los Angeles in particular, his is the question, I get the most personally of being in the entertainment industry is can you from fucking Kansas. No, you can't you have to live in Los Angeles for that. Then when you make enough money take your fucking money and move out of Los Angeles. Become Ronald Reagan, Montana. One hundred bring all your friends with your fucking multiple houses and all that other shit with you know, your one six hundred square foot condo that you were living in and you could buy fucking multiple houses. So if you're there specifically for the entertainment industry, I understand now if you're there just to fucking partying navigates go to another beach on the east coast like anywhere, San Diego County is not only significantly cleaner. It's fairly cheaper than LA. It's not it's not it's not that sheep. If you go up to north county reasonable compared to allies, it's not it's not horrible. But it's still expensive property taxes are fucking insane with California and. Tax. Yes. Kiss even Bakersfield exactly that whole fucking state. Could fall into the ocean. I'm fine with it to be honest with you and then just start over. Can we get Danica before that happens as? I really wish they tried to. Secede. And then we just did a massive bombing campaign Seidel Jared there. Yes. Yeah. I just think it would be hilarious like for them to be like. Oh, we're all right. We're own country in presidents, just like perfect. Hey, bum them until they wanna come back. Tried. We shut off their water shut off their power got off their food. Ten of Atlanta already learned that lesson. They try to split the state into three and that wanted three country. Yes. Three three states. And so that Bill actually went to get approved, and they shot it down. But yeah, they wanted they wanted threes for tax reasons. Good luck, Texas. Coz like silicone valley has so much money there with so many business owners that are dealing with big big balances and things like that. Yeah. They're probably tired of seeing all their fucking taxes. Just get pissed away by unqualified politicians that are fucking up. Well, so that's why I see why silicone valley wants to say, hey, we want to be our own state because you guys are fucking this up part of the reason some my one of my best friends just moved back there in that tech role apps and all that other shit, and he was there for about two years. And he said the homeless problem there is fucking insanity. He goes everywhere, you go people are shooting up in the streets. And he goes this is no exaggeration. And goes, then you have the richest of the rich these Silicon Valley guys just walking through these fucking homeless people. Like, it's nothing. They're like fucking zombies Paris. Yes. And look I'm been a Paris in a while. But is that? Is that the same thing that's going on there? There's a lot of homeless. It could be a guy in a suit. Welcome pass, a bump alleyway Manhattan too. So gross. What's this picture? Dave. Would you pull up? Yes. That is another thing in California and shit. Yeah. So my my wife is from Ventura County. That's just north of LA about about an hour an hour hour fifteen along the freeway. There's a bunch of people just living in RV's, man. And they love it. Because the weather's nice. Look, the weather's. That's the thing about California. I I will say this what's positive about it. The weather's gorgeous most the God damn year round. But there's a lot of people that live there and it same with LA too. We're on a few bridges in rural streets in in Hollywood where you can just pop up people with jobs like commuting live. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Crazy, right? L A California in general, but especially specifically southern California. But people forget though that a lot of ways California's still is the wild west. It's still it's the last stop for pioneering people to go to like, my family ended up there because the oil money dried up in Pennsylvania. So crazy drilling was going on in Los Angeles. People forget LA before it was an entertainment city. It's an oil city. Yeah. But even like inland, San Diego Temecula area. Like there's still Cowboys like real Cowboys out there. They're still very much a western vagabond mentality out there like. What do you? Call those Mexican Cowboys dress. Well, you got a lot of those down here in Texas. Yeah. I I lived in west Texas for years, you'll see a lot of Akihito's out there. Here in south, Texas, obviously, they'll be out there. I'm sure fucking Mexican grill me down here. I lived here for like three years. That's seventy five percent of the population. Right fucked Nicaraguan. Did you really? It's not it's not like I went on a Mexican. It's like seventy five percent of the city here. That's crazy. So swallows. Yeah. Was she was sixty of shit. I don't remember her full name. There was ten of whenever white people say the word Nicaragua. I get real nervous. Oh, just say it, right? Just say it, right? Please sway low France Zine SOLORZANO hog. Oh, how did that shake out? She was my girlfriend when I went into the military. Really? Yeah. They're super fertile as you get hurt. No. No. No, no, not really everybody else. You did. Yeah. Yeah. Just seems to happen. Yeah. It's probably this. You not get pregnant when you look at this. I get it. You're a this just. I look like a walking billboard for back child support. People look at me wearing this. They know I don't have car insurance. Medical insurance or rental insurance or wind inhale people look at me. Look at me. No, I have bench warrant somewhere. This harvesting right now says it's probably my favorite. I think fun. Yeah. Are you gonna go out and get a blue one green wanna yet? I should change my color eight for each day. Be great. Yeah. Yeah. Or just stick with four read. So you always see me in a red tracksuit does have multiples of it. I do like the idea though of a different day of the week you go a different color. Every Friday is green exactly because I think it would help people identify. What day it is? I didn't know what day it was. I would go yellow blue red Brown. Ooh. And then green I like it. Nice brown. Beige. Would you go back to your civilian clothes on the weekend? You know, where some shorts? But Monday through Friday, you're fry, you know, this is my Uni like a lot would black rifle that you go to business meetings. I don't know I have to ask I have to ask Evan. As long as you're wearing branded stuff underneath you'd be good. Right. Got that zip it down every once in a while just to show the logo in zip it you. You. Look at me like this. And they know have been victim before. Oh, yeah. Definitely have got a Saul at three twenty credit score. They look at me. And they know there's a Donut on one of the wheels on my car. And it's been there for a few months. On the donor. I think it would be awesome. If you were worth like a billion dollars that happen where it was just like you were that guy just showed up, and it was like on then. And the red tracks. They're worth a billion dollars. I would have so much fun with people. I would have so much fun with people would constantly ask people to borrow money. And they know you have a billion. I don't wanna get. My wallet at the going below a billion come on. Give me a quick to somebody who was doing business was. So that's really game in I can get an extra week on this. And I was like why? And they were like, I don't I don't like my account going under ten thousand. I was like I'm sorry. What fucking real broke one point in my life. I zero dollars. You don't have the rest of America lives mother fucking. If you told them man, I've I've got a strict billion dollars. I would love to be sent to handle different big things like this like like go in and take care of this invoice. Show up. Like, hey, you didn't pay your Bill. That would be a great. What do you call those guys show at people's houses? Collectors. No, they serve people papers. Oh, sir. Pineapple express. Yeah. I think this would be a nice costume. Because it's really jarring throw you off like, hey, what's up man and the mustache? Hey, and the pants don't quite match the top. I think that's great though. It's a different color red routes softer read, some would say, you know. Well, these were definitely made in two different errors of Dita's. Because that one's got there. It's two different Dita's logos. I mean, I look like I have a history of domestic violence. Red really sells how boring. White Reebok shoes. Oh, can you pop. Those up on the death not wearing them. I put the other shoes. Why tight are? They really tight. Gotta bring him in size. You twelve that's what I wear once you fucking friend those to me those white rooks into those those are those are nice. I'm surprised. Nobody's worn reeboks in a long time. I'd read ruses a kid you ever have russe, Jack. No, I don't remember those zipper on the site. Oh, yes. I remember those there you go. Belco strips and then you zip on the sun. Walling? A bunch of pictures of me with dead animals, and across bowed, just like this or bullfighting in that outfit. That would be great. I would like to anybody knows what good cockfight dome. Is there actually, I know we're some places there's a place called Okie Naga. It's in Mexico, all the cockfights you need down there. Really? They do it over here though, you'll find like back backyard places that do it backyard. Cockfight I don't know any connections here. The only guys in west, Texas. They would know where to go out there, really. Weird shit. When I lived out there cockfight is Ross would like to. I'd love to go to a cocktail ever been one. I'll be honest with you like the idea of fighting dogs is like horrendous me, but nothing fazes me about chickens at all, right? Yeah. What do they go for? I the is how does that up and kick no shit. Yes. So they're actually breeders here in Alabama. There's either Alabama Mississippi. There's an American breeder that like key. Everyone knows he's specifically bringing those chickens to fight and people will pick them up, and they'll take them back down to Mexico or out to shady legal places here in the states. Right. But that guy is breeding fighting chickens, but do you need for something like that? Matt Scott, seven acres here. You just need. If you're doing it here. It's got you have to keep it down low from the cops, obviously have a massive cock rating stink cog. No. But people complain about it they have to act on it. But just one if we just did one cockfight mass backyard. He's seven acres is anybody. Really, there's no, no, no, no not up there. And if you if you wanted like, I went to a backyard one time there there were like hundreds of people there. Mike getting rated and everybody setting it was just outside of Midland, Texas and everybody's gambling. Yeah. Yeah. That's the whole point. Did you win? They're all they were all most guys there were all from Ogi Naga, Mexico, and they were up there for oil work, and that's their culture down there in Mexico, by the way, it's normal for them. So they're not gonna stop doing what they love just because they're working up here. That's crazy. So you went your I didn't bet it all I was just there for the experience. I almost Coyote one time to the fuck is that sneaking over the border. Why I wanted to have the experience I backed out last second 'cause I put it out, but they need over there. Yeah. You get paid. Well. Oh, yeah. It's good money. This sneaky Coyote in human beings. Let's call. Yeah. Yeah. That you were taking live. A Coyote, you're you're helping legals get across really that's actually more cockfighting opposite of me wanting to cluster bomb. Yeah. The care. Why was nervous when you're talking about that, man? That's money, right? There brother. Yeah. That is solid. Fucking. I I back on it. We're preparing ourselves for the sob stories. We're gonna see next week when they're stuck at the border because we're not letting them in again the timing on. This is curious where it's just like the midterms are what November six was today. Twenty third fourth twenty fifth. So you're just going to see massive amounts of of b role of these pathetic looking people stuck at the border, and they're just going to try and paint, the president horrible light. Like, it's his fault. Talk to. It's it's weird, man. It's going to get really fucking weird. And the look the bombing thing we we're talking about getting like some sweet cattle prawns hongs and just going down and walking around Austin with mega mega hats on. Because couple of shots frigging skinny liberals in left's like they think like if they're offended. They get to touch you rule. So when they touch when they try and take Jack's hat off the hit him with fucking. The neck. Yeah. You'll do it again, motherfucker you ever you ever taken a produ yourself. I've been tasers shut the fuck up. I've been shot with the taste. How was that? You can watch it on video. What we did it for. Relinquish your faith. Achieved just beard. I took a taser which actually hit me right in the dick. Did it really? How did you go down? Oh, yeah. You go down. Yeah. Because I've seen some guys in bars where it's just gets as and they're still up and you're like she's Christ. What are they on? That must be amazing. We had a. Taser, but I had something something wrong with quad. And they gave me this thing. The hook up is. Yeah. Jack that up to ten and put that on friends even that was a lot. I couldn't imagine a fucking four days rap one of those around your voter. No, great. The the leg wraps, though, the electrical thing fucking does it with the tip. Just in Germany. I don't think I hard. Yeah. I don't get hard. I look I can definitely get down. The man is. I just don't get hard enough to put a put a full shock Chevy's seen big mouth yet. No. I haven't that show is on genius. Yeah. It's so it's so funny. But in the most uncomfortable with on Netflix because it's going to take you back to a time. Most most people have blacked out. It's for PC humor. No. They hit the core of your like puberty years like sort your teen kid gets his pillow pregnant. Yeah. The pillow comfort when the pillow spits out the baby it's his brothers. It looks like his brothers brothers. But fuck it is pillow too. Dear. And it's like, they're they're like fucking juvenile's. That's great. It was really funny. And on the second episode. There is a musical number with Freddie, Mercury about how great it is to be gay re second season. Or if I I've only seen the first season, man. Second episode. Oh, that's right. I remember that goes down Jack horsemen. Yes. Love that show gets darker and darker every. God what is that? Jack horsemen's another animated show. It's. Aaron Paul from Reagan bed. Willer net is the Willer net is Jack horsemen, and then people fucking love it, man. It's a Colt thing. It's a massive massive coal thing. That keeps getting picked up as you guys peop- outs making a murder to yet. I haven't watching. Yeah. Yeah. That's on. Netflix says gang bang hits. Hit after hit after hit. What sucks? I was just talking about this today. I'm obsessed with this show of Ben obsessed with it since its first season. I'm still bitter about its cancellation which is a rest of development. So they went through those three fucking beautiful seasons on FOX and they get cancelled. And it takes almost like a decade for Netflix. Baden brought them back that was one of the first original Netflix series. And it's been awesome to watch and everything like that. But like I'm still better that they were never able to keep them going from FOX. So I watch rest of element, which is my all time favorite combat active with you. Yeah. When they first came back to net flicks. I watched the first season, and I was just like I can't do it anymore. Yeah. It's it's and it's because of their schedules. So I know shooting wise, they can't get the chemistry together because they're all shooting different things shooting their scenes individually careers right now at working, literally everywhere. So you're trying to piece together all these scenes to make up show to to make it seem like all the people there. And you're like, all right. I'm done with this. And then the seconds. So I gave up with it after that seconds as it comes back. But that was when you had the Jeffrey tambor me too thing happen, and oh, yeah. That's right. They put a real damper on everything then they do explain that Jason Bateman took some heat. And it was just like fuck off. I don't I don't care about any of that shit. And I heard Jared that all those Amazon's serious did you hear the the ratings leaked, and they don't have one single series that has a million viewers what not one so that transgender show that was winning all the fucking. Emmys and Golden Globes and all that shit. Jeffrey tambor was the lead of they said that was averaging right around six hundred fifty five thousand nothing nothing, and they're spending Amazon spending all this money. And they're like they can't get more than a million viewers on a show. The only thing that's doing well now, and that's just recently that Jack Ryan thing with which I ski, but I can't get down on John crews Inskeep from the office like a hard ass in Jack. Ryan that doesn't make sense to be sweet, Jim sweet Jimnah me thirteen hours. Would you think? Did you like him thirteen hours? I don't know. It was he's not a soldier. That's what I felt when I watched it. I was just like man action starts his role was Marino in jar head wasn't really. Yeah. Like right bef- right before he got the office role. He played a marine jar head. That's funny. Your head. I love the book, and I don't want to sound like pompous boobs bit in the movie. The movie was garbage the book was in. Credible. And it was incredible telling of like the bitterness of the average infantry enlisted infantry marine. Yeah. The movie can capture that he the guy just came off as whiny and emo- Dave's pulled up a picture producer of this, man. This is nice to have a producer amounts pass from revolutionary just pull it up like this jesse's terrible at it. That's right now that I'm seeing this. That's fucking crazy that he was in that movie. I saw Jordan theaters. This is obviously before I knew you guys. I liked it. But I didn't know what was real what wasn't until I met Jared. And we've told this on drinking bows podcast hurt locker where I was just like man, I didn't know hurt. Locker was the most hated military movie of all time. Yeah. That's stupid stupid. What's what's your favorite? Then. Let's go down the list because both you generational is my favorite real, really. Yes. Generation kill. So actually, I had some connection with that. I when I was a little baby PFC, but I was in a couple the firefights portrayed in that show. Right. Like, we had done some work with that that unit, and I remember when it's coming out in two thousand eight I was still fresh out of the Marine Corps, and I don't naturally like warm movies. But I remember my friends would talking about this movie coming on like, I'm not gonna see this. It's gonna it's gonna be stupid fucking trash managing bullshit HBO. And I think it was David Burns was the executive. They fucking nailed military culture to the -til. I made I used to make students watch this series. No shit. That is the most representation of what looks inside of inside of a military vehicle. Well, I remember this series. I like the fact that they didn't use like super famous people either that made it feel more real timidly Turkson was the biggest name at that time and had done off stuff. He was all played Tobias. Yeah. Yeah. What about enemy lines? By really is that the one with Owen Wilson shit. So I don't have any reference to that. But you think so I like that movie. Oh, that's you're not as far as accuracy goes. Or it was pretty accurate if we're going that care. I'd say in the army now is my favorite military movie of all time. Yeah. Paulie shore striped on steroids right there. I'm surprised he hasn't been on the show to be honest with you, we should try. I know what about the only inaccuracy for behind enemy lines was the maneuverability of the surface to air missile from the essay six that. That was coming after them that was that was kind of fake, but it was funny. The fucking Checchi chasing him isn't a fucking trucks. He's he's running after this it attracted to that's great. What about apocalypse? Now. You get down on that. It's my favorite. That's a great classic. But again, I don't like those deep star or stories like I just don't I'm just not naturally. One of the best ever, military wise. They didn't they didn't dress up or anything. They made him. Look like a Chechen sniper comment on like, Vietnam, era, military culture tactics as a film. Oh, yeah. Was fucking do fears RAD movie too. Yeah. Yeah. That was great. And we're kind of getting to the point where it's it's easy to start getting sick of World War Two movies. Like there's been so many more coming out soon. There's in production. Like Dunkirk Dunkirk was supposed to be boring. It's fucked me it was boring shoring. Everybody said because you don't know you have to actually go back and read about the situation just to understand what the fucks going on in the movie. Yeah. 'cause you just doesn't make sense didn't do. Well. And who's that kid was Harry styles? Harry styles from one direction guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was little tw- wink face. He's he's actually came out. His by. So for him firms, very British him. It gives you a nice option doesn't it. You're right. A lot of British people do that Tom hardy city took a man in his mouth. They're just more sexually liberated over. Yeah. Why why we've come full circle with this like we had grotesque amounts of orgies and homosexuality and the three hundred all the way to Roman Reeves Arabs, everybody doing quit for a little while. And now all of a sudden, it's cool. If you're BI or gay, it's it's like keeps shit. Look, I get it. I just don't wanna fuck Jack. Obviously. What? I mean after. It's just wetness in motion. It's stink though. Taking a rough diet lately. Yeah, shower, hey Ross. I'll be go through a cleanse before you pound me in the end. Yeah. You gotta get that Red Lobster out of you. We all do we shot video about Red Lobster today. And my God man, it is. It's been a brutal day in the bathroom of black rifle coffee today people it is it is Elizabeth Warren trail of tears style. Just walking out of there. You're just like this is what the Indians went through. He's talking about the Cleveland Indians baseball team. It got some food poisoning their locker room recently. The best shitting story of time. It's still George Brett pooped his pants the baseball player. I haven't heard that one voi-. So he was on a hot Mike in spring training. He was talking to some young kids. They paid him to go down and talk to them. This is after playing all Famer whatever and these kids are stretching for stay spring training. And he's walking through everybody. You know, like, he's a general and he goes. Anybody ever shit? They're Pence out here. Nobody answers, you know. And he goes man fuck I did last year Balazs you had. It's bad shrimp at the restaurant. And he goes it was just water just shooting out of my ass. And he goes it was so bad. I leave my pants inside the the stall at the Balaj, you physically call somebody to bring me bands inside the thing. And he goes everywhere he goes, then I took my pants and just myself up with them, my slacks and just mopped up my legs with him, and he goes into this, very detailed intricate story of him pooping, his pants. That's like five minutes long. And everybody's so uncomfortable because no one asked for George poop pep band story. And then they mean, none with their memes and all that shit. But somebody remixed the story to a club. They were playing in clubs like, man. I have pine song in Kansas City, man. I have I was at the Balaj. Oh, the laws yo, and I was just like God, you can still find it on YouTube there. There was a thing where he said he was gonna do because I think it was a newspaper company that had a Mike up or something for an interview. And he said he was gonna sue. And they made him take down all the copies. And they just kept popping up understand the internet's just kept popping was some sound. Some intern guy doing the sound he didn't give a shit if he was going to get fired for this didn't care at all. But George Brett pooped his pants. Maybe I'll put that audio at the end of the show Jesse put the audio of the George Brett pooped his pants story. 'cause it's it's epic. And it's just so detailed, and you could tell Georgia's wanted to fit in with the with the fellas. Trying to this is how we talked in the eighties. Relate this baseball players. This is what we do. And he was just a graphic story about taking a taking Duke. Right. Well, yeah, we're about to start drinking Bros. Are we really come on? Yes. Best is passion revolution Jairo spectrum. Evolution. I thank you for having you on. Thank you, ma'am. Best everybody. Oh. Oh, you look you look handsome. You look you look really God. Damn handsome camera ready today. You do you always look camera ready? That's. But. Sure do you wearing by the way. May Salt Lake City. Oh, Bing, bang a little a little for that ass. Jack mandible. This was fun. Tell everybody where where they can find you on social media. I'm at J A C K M A V I L L E, Jack Mandeville on Instagram and Twitter. And I think simple Jack would have been better probably been a lot better. But I don't think it had. That's why. That's why I'm just trudging Jack in the boys thirty Jack in the boys. The boys jeered tell everybody where they can find you bet. Article fifteen. Yeah. You have one of the best. What are you laughing over there? That. It's still it's nice a producer near jesse's terrible. At it yourself bad. She is Taylor swift age. It's all asked her the other day. It's three words. Three key words in Google. How old is Taylor swift? Boom. Took her a half hour. Couldn't do it. Finally there. It is twenty years old twenty eight years old why she still single at twenty eight years old data. Yeah. You will. She had what tell it. She had one of my favorite songs of all time, which one twenty two. Yeah. That's a dark one, Jack. It is swift. Feel too. I don't know about you on twenty two I say that. Favorite sailor's, sailor Swiss on. It is look it up. Dave, look it up. Twenty two is Taylor. Swift. Absolutely is because my anthem every morning. I wake up the man, this is I don't know about you. But I'm feeling twenty two. Yeah. Suffering from depression since I was twelve years old, by the way that real you take anything for that. No, nothing at all. No my entire life. I just I make twenty says my way of dealing with it. We do something on the show at the end of the show. Revolutionary figure of the day, Jack, who's the most revolutionary figuring your life? Right now, there's going to be cliche ship. I'm gonna have to say my dad gerrymander his younger days. He's seventy five. Who cares? He doesn't have to. What was revolutionary about your dad? What did he do? I my dad. I don't know how much detail can go into you can go into all my dad's been surrounded by death is entire life. He his dad got killed in the war when he was a baby he has outlived his oldest son. He's outlived both of his younger brothers. He grew up in a my grandmother. Did what women did when their husbands died in the ward, she got remarried right away grew up in a super abusive home like my dad's worked for everything and his life. And he like. But like with revolutionary about him. This is a guy. That's never complained about anything. This is a guy. That's like literally I in this life. No matter what's been going on. My dad has always been the funniest guy in the room. No matter how much shit he's gone through in his life. So I'd say he's revenue revolutionary in the sense that like his character has never changed. No matter what. And nothing has ever been a crutch for him. And as far as he can't go on with life. Like, he's been the truce example of manhood in my life, and he's a small guys not physical guys. Not like some tough frickin factory worker. Yeah. I got. I have his jeans impair shaped, but. Yeah. No. He's just he's a bad ass in the sense that like he mentally is always kept himself together. That's fucking awesome men met your daddy's a great awesome guys any blind. He's been blind for ten years. Now, never complains is. You've got blonde is he like Stevie Wonder where you can see shapes C shape. So he's got what's called the Macarena degeneration. It's a white people problem. Yeah. Is it really? Yeah. It's common. White people. Steve is not fully blind, by the way, he can see shape. Yeah. My dad can see like shapes that. And that's about it. But yeah, never in ten years. I've never heard him complain about it. He's got skin cancer. Never heard them complain that he's been doing that for thirty years. Never complained. Yeah. He's a bad ass is. He's always been the funniest guy in the room. No matter what that's fucking awesome. We'll do appreciate you guys doing the show with me today. Love being in San Antonio, Texas with the boys. Let's let's play that George Brett pooped his pants. Hopefully, we can find the remix if Jesse can't find the audio. Let's find that remix club version that would be the best for for Jared Taylor. Jack Mandeville, I'm Patterson. This is the revolution. Good night's everyone. She cancel. She. Fucking shit my dad's raking. Just a great meal. I had to go to the bathroom. Shit. Just great. Fucking shit. My pants. Shit your pants. Good twice a year for that. Vegas companies ago stainless Balaj one over for dinner. Let's friends went to cope amo- brings out some fresh crab legs just came in. I mean gamble walk them back to the hotel. All of a sudden all fuck that. I'm standing here like this. I got my. This. I got that. I'm standing here. Like this. I got my attention. Show on that. I'm standing here like this. All sudden. Filter. Right. I want just like this. What? Poisoning, frappes. Dan. And it's just. Start fucking walk. And every time I've walked. Something's coming. Fucking walking every time. I'm walking. Rushing over my son. Fucking white ball. My shoes shoes pants everything. Towels. The morning. Shit. Tapers ship. Double taper. Taper? Story. In this game.

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Cinemavino  The Mandalorian, II and III

Cinemavino

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Cinemavino The Mandalorian, II and III

"Uh-huh look back to you know. Have Y'all and talk about the man Lawrence and I got Sean Jordan with us. Hey we'll talk about all things star. Wars men laurien interior back. Taylor's Man I don't care I don't WanNa be here. I'm here for the fans basically. Oh this whole thing. I've had it for years. We'll see Andy's got tonight tonight actually question tonight. Let's I'm GonNa Guess Penguins and CACTI things down there hello down South Trust me too. Well moistened. Well I'm out. Okay so I have been ill and so I'm going to be sober for me. This is going to be sober over. Movie Now Sucks Man. Yeah that'd be all been ill I started and that's on me. I apologize and I think my voice sounds more like nick. Nolte wait what year Nick Nolte. I have spoken. I have spoken. This is more like Cape Fear. Nolte's black counselor cooler if you were blue chips or another the forty eight hours nick. Nolte or hope Nick Nolte Shut your filthy horse. Now I think what is students more sling late and maybe maybe I sound more sling blade. I always get nolte and beauty messed mixed Powell. One has teeth. But which one yes exactly. Yeah BBC's teeth are by far way crazier intimate yellow chocolates. Yeah those aren't even teeth. There is a a TV show on MTV in into thousands of this guy who just literally wanted to hang out and they shut it. I don't after like half a season because they're like this is insane. You say it was amazing. I think at one point he wanted to be frozen he was talking about how like I'm with UC or yeah. I can't remember what I want to be frozen. You're GONNA help me because they put us coming on bounty hunter. Amanda Laurean Go Mandeville. NOPE carbonite. He could stand for some carbonite for sure so this is a two and three synopsis of Made Laurie. Yes right cool cocoa. What are your thoughts on episode two Okay Ebay? A stripped John was stripped his ship. Yeah and then I. Yeah I like I was just more of a Western like the more you look into him. Actually a lot more dialogue this episode than than the first one. Because is the first one we were talking about it. We're like he just doesn't talk the whole time. He just SORTA looks around this time he actually yells at some job was done some stuff. There's more you. The more plot disintegrated. That was cool. That was awesome. We're Teddy's well did this. You'RE GONNA get a few of them. There was a so Yeah so I read an article I guess the Nintendo or Super Nintendo they had a star wars game where it was all about like Fighting the I was about how luke had to on their giant tank thing how he had to jump from platform to platform and they would keep popping out of the windows. Throw Shit at him but you. I had to like jump up to the top of the thing and they're like those kind of a cool homage to video cables now interesting a real subtle nod if that was what they're actually. Yeah I was. One of the creators was just subtle a sleigh plan that video game. It was like wait a minute. We need it. But it's been a show subtle like a lot of things that throwback to you know all the movies including the prequels and catch a lot of references. Just I don't know if I like that or not. It's like they're doing a lot of fan service they're they're focusing on like some of the means and stuff and it's it's cool again but I I think we saw with game of thrones a lot of the problems with writing for Fan Service. Yeah it's a tricky. Thank you if you don't do it at all. People get pissed too much people get pissed now I you know I mean Senator Thousand Times not not being Dr Hard Fan. It's like Sean I we're talking the way over here it's just good TV period. Who is like you know I? I don't get into the whole like you know secret meeting or like you know the little video game thing like I could give two shits about that. It's just just damn good TV right. Now I'm just very impressed. Episode to like during my illness was awesome because I was able oh to see young one and then to like pretty quick and I was man. This is just a great visual display and also it just makes me you know very review shows made me want to watch more the rarity were like. I wouldn't mind if this all came out at one time because I would've I would've power-wash watch this thing done by Wednesday of every time it ends. I'm like fuck man it's like it's not. It's not really jam. Impact with story beats but you you're kind of on the mission with the guy and you're you know Zach Yeah but But yeah I mean I'm wanting wanting to know the the Dole it out in small dollops like they're they seem to be short. They're not full hour thirty five Asia minutes per episode. And I I I don't like it I like. I guess I'm kind of married to the hour. Long Show format now where I want more content fan but if I like it that it's like H. B. O.. Where you can have a forty one minute? Episode of Game of thrones or you can have an hour in six minutes they know they don't let commercials or television down eight. How long it has to be time slot time or anything like they just use whatever time they actually want which I think is cool? Yeah that's got to see baby. Yoda eat a frog waiting to. Yeah Yeah we were all waiting for baby frog. I liked that. They're kind of formatting in chapters like the episodes are called Tau chapter three and you can really tell it's broken into chapters. It's very much like story wise. It's very much like a a chapter format. Yeah like I episode is All about Him Mike going on the mission. Pleading second mission is get back. Fight the jobs find an egg. Yeah I know I oh okay this is. This is a question. Obviously the Star Wars people like Todd John and even travis so even traffic when you like. Okay uh-huh I considered you know especially those little more star wars. Okay so what was the name of the creature. They mentioned it in Episode Three Abbott. What what was the name of the creature that he had the egg from the mud horn button work better so what what what is I mean are these is all new creatures being created and asked me what it was like? It's literally call the mud. Finish my sentence was like ah these things like our been created previously. Are these in books. Are these unlike previous like one offs or anything or these are some of these creatures is being made up for the show. It looks a lot like that creature. They fight attack the clone. And the Glasgow okay. So that is a callback to what some of the other liberty similar similar to go go. Yeah and so. It's probably I don't know which was itself. Rahab Harry housing thing that they were doing. Oh Ooh I think all of those were just to sell toys yes though like forums spider guy. The alien had long Harry. Housing was a class that titans type Omar creatures close. Yeah Okay Yeah. That's Kinda how I took that. But this I think it was a reference to that which was a reference to the players Yeah there's a lot. There's there's layers to the references. Even I thought they were just doing lake lake diversion. Of course you know three or four different critters y'all too. I WANNA see your rank Oregon in the movies. Maybe rank core o q you will rank. Were Vancouver that an awesome turn out to be a instead of iota like a baby rancor that they were like an a train to be some big killing Mosser be Waco or or a rank or with the force for score host the the the Shitty e walk movies but there was one like the giant he was like getting or Ganesh. Get something I duNNo. I wanted to see another one of those somewhere star wars. Tell me what are you talking about doing the more you walk movies like I think directive. TV actually talked about the Christmas special holiday special courage courage. Yeah Oh oh now that you're the poorer for it. Is it on Disney boss No unfortunately hopefully some day I offer a waffle year for BLU ray birthday around on reading reading to One. It's better it's original German. Pour your water. What movie was that? Were there watching pizza and water eating pizza. We're showing me some IMAS TI three K.. Or something about like Sandton Martians. Maybe not Santa Claus Conquers no-one causing but there was they were like That was good. It was like they have water. Hurt their pizza. Fucking Poor Kris. Bryant foundry leasts pizza in water airport so poor people suck. This was a very cinematic episode to all these absolutely. You're very cinematic movie. Movie well produced. Well made good look special effects. Here's a question that you know. Do you know where they're filming this. I don't drive catching how shit I mean I'm GonNa Guess I mean the the movies were filmed in Tunisia. The original trilogy. They found that in Mila nowhere now in Africa and then I know that some of it they return for the prequels that same spot. But I would guess if I'M GONNA put out there say probably the western United States probably like Arizona. WanNa he kind of has that feel to it well I like that. They're showing demand warriors like actually being cool rather than Boba Fett who looked. It's really cool but didn't do a whole lot useless in the movie. And then they tried to redeem they had Django fat and the Django Fat obi-wan fight fight in attack of the clones was really cool and then he got his ass rocked by Mace Windu. Yeah at the very matter of seconds that we don't miss the maze then maze got taken out like a bitch and part three well where he got taken out from behind uh-huh what prequel took him from behind on hand man actually just watched Polish rush watched that the other night which is not bad. I think it's my favorite of the of the prequels and I know that for the most part for me that would be the obeyed contest but I really liked a genuine so I thought that was good. I will say obviously the prequels are really popular with younger kids because they kind of grow up around Manheim. I feel like that's a generational thing of like the prequels are there's like an age bracket where like the prequels were more popular than the original trilogy and then are the kids these these days into the sequels or is it mostly. Those movies are being made for the parents. There's certain styles and heavy I would think probably parent now geared kids these days go. Don't have a favorite student loans in their. Ah I got. I'm back student loans. And they're what home so Shaun. What's your favorite star wars movie of all time empire I mean I think that's a straightforward? Everyone's favorite movies empire. Has I think it should be. It's the the best sequel best movie now whereas a kid. I really liked luke getting green lightsaber like. There's also Oh oh yeah. Seeing seeing the color was really cool and like him dressed in all black. I'm pretty sure I wore that outfit for a long time again. Yeah I mean now that could be the generation generational racial thing to as a kid. It's like you fall in love with the little things like that. Like the Green Light Saber. And you know the paneling rank or job is pal too bad ass. And then like Princess Leia in her outfit made me feel funny like when we used to lure open gym class. Send this conversation with. I don't remember who we're talking about. I grew up with the remastered ones. The ones that George Lucas released on VHS. Golden olden black three pack now. That's what I grew up on so I always knew job of the hut being like a big old slug dude with the musical number in Jarvis Palace that was just. That's what I grew up with. I didn't know anything different until I was older and I knew better that there wasn't actually a music number and job. It's just a dude. In the first one in Viru they intended him to be like a man. He's a man he's forty but I had something I remember. I liked Jedi because you get to see Landau flying the Millennium Falcon into battle school now. Because I was being Landau Fan. It was his homeboy in. That had like a weird little mustache in big ASS. lappy gums. I believe his name was Mia Nya Y- of course it was freak me the hell out. Yeah I have that action figure somewhere around here. Of course you did. I'm going to give that to our son when he's older and he can eat that so the here you bite the head off of this guy on this hang on that you pay for college credits. You can't and there were like five dollars. He was he was good and he showed up in the sequel. Yeah I think he was either. The last one of these sequels force awakens. Our last gen-x acts I was like. Oh there's your age you ever see Solo Star Wars are okay. It was okay. Yeah Yeah I wasn't it. Yeah it got it got pushed through like producer Hal when it got hit off to like three different directors kind of screwed over but good cast gave us a little own on background. Story is fun you know. I mean I think if you go to that one not expecting to patty mind blown and just have time. He loves again. What great cinematic watch it? You'd be clean talk about. How fucking sexy? The Mando was when he got all his best Gar armor. Okay the woods. Let's talk about upset. Three three we got full man. delorean like gory shots. s full gear. I want him to get a final jetpack. Everyone Elsa jetpack even at the end. I mean it's kind of like a video game released geared up. Yeah honestly this guy literally elite the first episode has him taking quest to complete armor. Set like he's like I need to. I need to complete this epic armor that I need to complete this quest so I can get this material that you you get those rare Matt's then you can get it crafted. That's that's the entire base of the show so far love it. You GotTa get my man do as raid crafty. I just make sure you read the fight beforehand. The way you know all the stuff to do Jesus how the fuck do the little the dangles the one that beep at at. Maybe Yoda fobs now. How does funds work? They didn't address or something they never. They got a FOB. They never turn it off and so as soon as he takes. Baby Iota out of the room. It's like everyone lights up. Maybe he's got one of those things and I'm like the habit dillard's if you try to take smock. Oh Yeah You know if you try to leave with like clutch everything goes off. I always kind of thought it was like a low jack could be like you got like a baby. Yo Jack the logic is ear. Now he's like one of those Parolees you know like he's Iota behalf we have. We seen his ankle. We haven't I mean I've seen the little foot but we haven't seen ankle that's going to be a little tiny low jack anymore. Yeah it's like did they make a little puppets. MUPPETS is lift up his skirt and see if he's a little boy or little iota. Nothing checking I've been careful not to assume we'll YODA's gender all your more work than I am so I don't know if it's an eight supposed those to be like a new. Yoda like a new version of yoga or is he. YODA's offspring humiliated. I mean I guarantee one thing if if he is a male I guarantee you that Yoda's Dick is bigger than mine. Probably Little Iota Dick. We don't know much about that species but we do know who you mean. He's gotTa be hawking out. Come on they got a little green smokey's he's down there a little Nainggolan middle chlorine a so. What do we think about like episode hole? who was bad ass? Any was awesome. Yeah his whole Oh okay. This is a random thing I didn't know when I was that. Mandatory isn't actually like a race they're just like a set of beliefs that anyone of any race can live live by and once you start living by that that code or Credo or whatever You're considered a main delorean. Your weapons are part of my religion. Yeah exactly it's like a tribe or religion or code or whatever and basically if somebody's Amanda Laurean you're a bad ass fucking fighter because they can eat images as you see that meme of it's like took DNA tasks and you have point one percent. American new weapons are part of my religion. It's good to see people get disintegrated. Yes that's what you sign up for these things see him just one shotting. Some showers Yeah aw again. He's overpainted breaks of this shit. You know he's he needs to be served. No Earth man he just needs better villains. Can they can hang with him. I'm glad it didn't kill car. Weather's Carl weathers. Yeah that's the thing now we're gonNA see Mando on the run for. Everyone is coming after them. I would rather have seen like Carl. winslow been good nowadays hearts. He's holding out for that. uh-huh family matters the reunion and Carl. Weathers is like most people. I don't know if you guys watch development but I can't look at him and not think rest velopment. Maybe you got. It's like you get that and some broth and brought you guys do go on. There's still some meat on that but anyway yeah that was good. It's grown on me. I was skeptical at during and after the first episode of like it was so light on dialogue and it felt so so lean on source. It's like if it's ten episodes this it's going to get a little slow from. It's only eight eight. Yeah it's already gotten picked up for seasons tape ends the week Allender of the week after twenty seventh. Because they're going to take a week off from when rise of SKYROCK. Okay so you get a EH inundated with SARS week as if all the movies streaming you can just yeah exactly but Yup. I'm kind of curious to see where I mean with the presence of baby. Yoda's kind of like a little road movie with the two of them on the run together Lone Wolf and cub on the road again. It's like Silvester Sloan over the top dislike. Love over the I fucking love it though. And if he puts his hat on Macara's talk if he flipped his helmet around backward. I'll take the part where they stop at space rest stop and Mando teaches baby. How arm wrestle? My favorite show ever made wasn't there a part in that movie where they're like having an arm wrestling the thing is. There's like a Tarantula on one of the ends I think this is maybe a fever dream that I put in my own head nobody. I've seen the movie the consideration. Nobody's like Charles. I think you're lying data so I do not remember. It might have been during the the Mike Championship at the end or the competition. This is like deleted scenes like fucking octopus in goonies took it out. Was it. Sky Fall off. Were there they have the Tarantulas. The drinking and what was it my crazy did I dream that. They're having like a drinking contest. We shared the same fever dream about tarantulas. And this guy my phone I think we you and I are having the same dreams. Were you falling last night in years because I was this is years ago. Okay this is like the Barron's team bears Berinstain No side note. Have you seen the commercial. Where the bears wearing white undies and his parents are afraid to pick up his to have skid marks on them in there that the Sherman bear being passes with? This is a fine. How can there hasn't been a porn parody of star wars there is really there's about Masoum foreign parity about it like recent ones who was actresses Travis Travis? Come on well so we so we talked about it. We don't you guys said it exists guys guys mandatory in episode four. I will have all the information age. Acquire thank you about Star Wars Spoof. My parents earns listen to this podcast stormy Daniels Anyway. So we had more thoughts on on the Mando remained lawrence pretty sweet. Okay so having don't tree did. I don't understand yeah the heavy machine-gun like chain run into his little. You shoot lasers what what does that was. The Belt Do. Heavy lasers extra heavy mazars. What does the belt do? What's it feeding like? Is it all water. Cooler is keeping get cold so it doesn't tracers also disintegrated. I don't know maybe so I understand. Let's talk about the the whistling. Oh yeah and why are they so finding and why can't you just call them back and she was like okay. Use this carefully like you only have so many two minutes in. He's like Oh fuck this fuck that noise. I need more multi-use risk things. They just say we saw you got a flame thrower yet willing whereas we got a wrist mounted ripcord launcher. He also had like a remote thing where you could like tug. Okay fuck everything I said until just now I want that little fucking baby crib. I want to float around on your screen awesome. That looked comfy if any of US needed. It's todd yeah I mean he's GonNa float around a little bassinet. That looks like that. Just sorta like covers. I well no large enough to where I can finish it. You know I would ride in battle are you. Are you in reverse engineering. Wally gotTa Fat People that just rolled around and give of it. This is looks more comfortable. I mean we can. We can work through logistics. ooh blaster go. We we have an attached. I mean you can hol turbines maybe we who have schilling when the thing is closed and then I just have like a lick video camera outside and just be in little ball and just like basically. You're just creating a tank. Okay but hover tank okay. Yep Yep todd yeah laugh so we're just kind of staring at each other awesome. What's been your favorite pair of mandates that you've words of work do you think they're going to us? I hope healthy do longs. Did you huckle Lougee. No you vomit. No Oh hey hey guys thank it. Should we be sponsored by Vanillin. Exactly Yeah Yeah. You can't breathe. Try to you by bureau. She actual here at work on the podcast so made laurine thumbs up all around. Yeah yeah three films up so far. Yeah so what are we expecting next. WHO's coming after him did he? He didn't kill Werner Herzog. Did he no MHM. He wasn't in the room when Eastern Gasol. They are Carl weathers. Whatever name is what is he's the he was speaking fees? I would like to see a a a reprise of the hut. I want to see a rise. The huts yeah. ooh See some familiar characters. Come back perserve well. It doesn't have to be you know job age Outta Ya. Aw Baby Java. I'm down with that I mean. The huts played played a part in the first movie. Phantom menace is not the first movie. Yeah so they're definitely out there little crime syndicate but I don't think I think they're enemy is definitely a empire related. I'm just waiting for Gina Krona to show up because she hot old school stormtroopers. Do you think took out quite a few and I don't think they were designed to live forever so you're thinking clones. These are conscripts. The empire was built up concert conscript. Oh yeah so. How many would what was your question? How many left? I mean of the Empire's is dissolved. So these guys are just like old school stragglers who were just hanging out with the client as his name is going to be a finite resource. Right I would think we're great too by the way. I think he's really good so do you think he's just going to keep their a bounty hunters. Do think we're going to see like a rogues gallery owners coming after the Manda Window. Yes and what that reminded me John Wick fans. But like it's like John Wick excommunicate. Oh only sad. Fleeing the scene it's always westbound hunters coming after him. Yeah pick somebody typing in a room somewhere and like loading like his his information. Yeah it's like I think it's going to be like John Wick where it's like you think man does Jack like he's GonNa get his own little dangle. I bet so yup and I don't know if they're going to be a hotel where you can go and it's neutral ground but you never no no. I wanted to see him bath house. I'd that's an interesting. So I guess toilets you're like the Orion girls was the star Trek. You know the Green Kurt girls everybody. Covets twilight girls. Maybe I don't know maybe Rydell who knows her. Dad I mean the twilights planet with. Maybe it's like the pleasure planet it's all I can think of other the double ponytail tale girls. Yeah Yeah Yep. That's dancer gets eaten in Jeddah Cheese twilight twilight Jeddah. She gets taken not one of which was a great video game area was the Star Wars. Battlefront dalom yeah. I think pretty cool layup pre recall. I like that. Yeah well spores mushrooms. I Star Wars Video Games. I've been playing phone order. ooh Oh oh yeah the new one. Yeah Yeah Yeah I played. I went back did force leash to and I was an evil on indoor. I killed the shit out of CHEWBACCA and Han Sula. Here's the thing so I don't know if you remember from Force Awakens you get the black lightsaber of the dark Zuber. Yeah so the dark sabre is the thing man Laurien culture. That's right where the Mandal Laurean. Who owns the dark saver? which is it's it's like a black lightsaber? That that specific demand Lawrence is basically like the the king. It's the King Arthur Sword. Basically you you put out of Excalibur and you get a black. Let's say it. It was the one that was ever jet. I Yeah I think so which I was mandated to find a random. I'm sorry yeah. Yeah all of them so I love to see that. Come into play. I know based on Canon that came in to the rebels storyline. So now we know that it's being knowledge as Canon it was also include wars the animated. Yeah that'd kind of caught me out. They'd bring some kind of jet did I slash lightsaber type stuff in there somewhere. I don't want them to like shoehorn. Jet Is into it because it we already have like baby. OTAS are token force user and they're not shoving it down arth wrote like. Oh look you wish he so doral. Whenever I listened to it like Travis's got me on the hook of a closed captioning and I love what it says? Cooing hasn't triple noises convened and this is the most immature fifty year old. But your does the same way it was just like. Oh no little notre neutral bar. It's a it's a valid question that's circulating around is is. Is he helping. Say I'll see Yoda's baby. Let's speak in broken language like Yoda now. Does he speak at all or we like was Yoda out there. Somewhere like like just clapping cheeks. Yeah that's the one I like. I like to think he was. Oh are you are are Yoda's like for Angie's like their ears or their Rajin assumes just the year he's bigger the years edging they they do move a lot when he speaks are quite mobile. What happens you wouldn't you talk? Maybe might do. I don't know I never really paid attention to his definitely conveyed like a certain mood. They move up and down puppy tale but anyway so that's been another episode of cinema moving. Now let's keep going when you can go all night to what are you drinking. Yeah Oh Yeah I. I don't know what I'm thinking. Oh I brought a bottle of earthquake over Zinfandel. It has literally nothing to do with this. Podcast we just taught us over McGee Travis just got over HIV showing my party pretty harsh today so Johnson like. Here's some good. Yeah I mean you can handle it now. I mean it's a got to cure is money. Yeah Damn I just bought a bottle of wine over but it's earthquakes Zinfandel and it's it's a big boy beeline alibi but yeah. It's tasty todd work when we find your your movies. Yeah I got to move your views dot. US Louis's dot US reviews dot US movies dot us on that one ship. Shit out of the loop. I gotta get back. I'm wondering how this works EBA coming out this weekend. It's hard pass. That's the name of it to attach good. Guess so you look down on the website. And then he was at the San Marino podcast and instagram potatoes. Vino yes being. Follow or listen. Right Scribe podcast spotify. So give us a good review. It tells you love us so we thank you guys for joining us and we will see you guys next week to watch movies. Yes yes yes we need to do. Some Christopher's you do some Diane already know what I'm going to say. And that is a hard movie. The hard one two and three three of them altogether with y'all Christmas movie in my mind it is if you want to. Yeah Yeah what else. We got for Christmas Chevy's next month where this becomes a hallmark movie podcast. Yes gremlins home alone. Of course one and two. 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The True Money Show-The Silver Guru Edition

"They don't want cash around because it's one of the places we could actually have freedom. In other words me and you can exchange without them knowing and they cannot stand that exactly right wage. So I was going to ask you. Well, I mean, let me get to the that part of the report. Like I said, you got to read the Morgan report for yourself. There's a free newsletter. David says he does some blogs and some wage videos and so on but the depth he goes into I didn't even mention what else is in this report? And I'd better do it before we run out of time in the Rue Morgue. I'm just doing the opening remarks. This stuff is so full value that I was just blown away by it. But he also has company updates on the companies that are talking about in in investing in there's a blockchain brief in this particular report. There's a portfolio review of oldest current investment allocation asset allocation report. There's a letter to the editor so you could even write him a letter and get some response to if something is nagging in your brain, there's links to his books and the affiliate month. It's a comprehensive. Well, thought-out very very informative report. So check out the Morgan report.com and consider subscribing. I think this is another truth-teller that you should be on your radar. Okay, the ideas come up that the vaccine for covid-19. And I was glad you said there had been some pushback but then okay, I'm going to tell you what it's like around where I live. I live just north of New Orleans little town called Mandeville Covington Mandeville a little suburb of New Orleans and off David. We have a governor who's crazy about Comfort. He loves the stuff and he loves masks and he loves dictating two people what to do with their lives and I woulda that we're supposed in the most conservative perish. Our our counties are called parishes the most conservative perish in the state. I would have thought there'd been more people giving him the finger than anywhere else in the country song And yet when I say it's probably ninety-five to ninety-seven percent compliance with the masks and with all the stupid mandates, I'm probably understating the case. I'm not sure people are going to object to being vaccinated. No, you're right. I the vast majority won't I mean I don't know how well, you know Franklin, but he wrote that book Highland and in that book he talks about basically what I think the future holds and he goes into office that they'll be the remnant and they're probably going to not take the mark whatever you want to call it the vaccine or a Mark or a chip or who knows I think they'll be multiple things but regardless of that same idea of sound and you're going to have to extract yourself from that system and you're going to have to go out and be a variant and work with your community. It's going to be and you know, that's the best cake. I mean the other cases, you know what Marxism is always done and other ideologies and it just wipe out the people don't agree with their philosophy. So it's it's a choice. It's going to be it's not going to be. Oh I took the vaccine my mistake. I've taken a Mark. I don't think that's viable. I think you were absolutely going to know you are or are not on one side or the oo. Well, so I dare not even go into this because because you say yourself that you did a report a few months ago. That was controversial and I find this current report not I don't think it's controversial. I just think it's a I think it's very Illuminating and very exciting exhilarating to have someone speaking at this clearly. I just so rarely see it. But what was the report you did a few months ago that got controversy David Maus was like you already stirring up enough. You did one more than this one. Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't things have gotten Tighter and Tighter. I've let's say exposed more of my personality might say I was commissioned to do a study on the mark of the beast really the financial system in the end times by a gentleman named David Huebner who's put in a movie together called the last evangelist. Okay, and so I sat down two months ago and I thought well do yr, Dona and I prayed about it. I said, you know, I'm gonna let it rip. I did get some people that were so angry at me. They quit their subscription. That there are a lot of people that also suggest you really, you know, didn't know that much about you. We thought we you know, we kind of hinted at or whatever. Thank you for letting us know. So it went both extreme. And of course, there's always a lot of people in the middle. So I have very few that you had some that just hated it in some that loved it and a lot that were like, okay. I was another report and poverty and I said, I probably not going to go this deep again, but that was the most controversial one. I've done in twenty two years of publishing and I'm glad I did it. I don't have anything to hide and I think people ought to know but the assets of it I just said a lot of people think that way they aren't going to know or that it's not very it's not going to be like there's a red light beeping on and off and you put your hand under you get the mark but it's it is going to be obvious and they will be and they're going to pay the road in a way that makes it very alluring and that's what that report was about. It's going to say a lot of things that Volvo cult the right one. This is my view. I could be wrong but a lot of things that we don't like right now get turned around and like, okay. Well we've settled down on the supply chain. We're taking care of the month will doing all these wonderful things and it looks really really good. And in order for you to get your Universal basic income from now on and be safe and secure in your new cubicle that's paid for and run by the state. You never have to be without a down payment and you get free medical care and your education take your care of all you have to do is sign this little piece of paper and saying that man is your you know, as your God. Yeah, you gotta adjust God and go with men and that's who you're you know Allegiance is does your allegiance to man of God as I said earlier and I don't think it's going to be anything but crystal clear and a lot of people say well, I don't want to work or need to work or whatever. I'm willing to sign my soul away because the problem is people don't understand. This is my opinion folks, please cuz I don't know wage. But my strong opinion is that they don't know that they're giving up their soul until it's too late. It sounds good, but they don't realize what they're really sacrificing. It's a lot deeper than just this life. There is something Beyond us and if you don't believe that that's fine. That's okay with me. It's just if if you're you know, if that's the case you better be right. Well now that's an excellent choice David unless I'm talking to David Morgan you listening to money show. This is David Simpson +844-527-872-3845 Crusade I'm with you on every bit of that. I haven't done these analysis the mark of the beast. Of course. I've done my says of eschatology in the end times type of things but not that not that specific but I'm with you it sure seems like it's all the way up to say look, you know, you gotta have this thing. We have all these Health scares that go around we have National emergencies. We have weather emergencies, and we're just going to be able to care for you so much birth. Hurt if you just have this thing whatever that thing is and boy all and like you said you're going to sweeten the pot to boil. You're going to be able to get your food easier. You can be able to get your Healthcare easier to get your you know, that in-depth tax income check back your tax return check back all this stuff. They're going to say and everybody's going to go it was pretty good. And I think it's just so crazy. But I am I believe it could happen. I think you're dead dead to rights. So that's what syrup the nest and I've always said this guy's you'll know this see so David Morgan was willing to lose subscribers because he said I've this is more important to tell the truth and that's the mark of someone who is honest, you know, some people are willing to kind of sway around a little bit because of the money issues a little more important to me than the truth issue and I'm going to watch those guys but if a guy says no, I can take a financial hit over this because it's more important. It's just it's just a Telltale, you know, it is an absolutely say today Morgan's the most honest person the world, but she One Market, I bet you're going to find others as you're reading more and more. Okay, so I better do I better do some silver David or else they're going to hang me because I know all my listeners so I'm always telling people to make a regular purchase of some hard currency just to keep adding to their portfolio and and ever since I've been talking to Franklin course, we've been emphasizing silver over gold because of the of the ratio being out of whack and thing consumers that are buy at the time so I found this and I really want to ask you this question because it's it's one place that I I think I even vary from Franklin on this one. So you say all currencies this they're going crazy with the printing the money and the keeping interest rates low and all this other stuff you say they all fail and they often fail and therefore they all fail against gold. So in our view the best Hester currency risk is the money Metals themselves, so, Am I wrong I invest in silver for this reason only I want to be emergency money for me. In other words. I have no intention of ever selling when it goes up. I don't use it as an investment. I literally am holding it as like emergency money when the Greenback doesn't work. I think Franklin's telling me I think he's told me pretty explicitly no David if it gets to a certain level like if the race track down the 16 to one he goes in the Meadows or wait opt out and everything else is a better buy you should liquidates those metals and buy something else. I'm thinking what else would I buy though at that point? So what is your take on that do you offer? Are you a whole forever guy? Are you really investing? Are you playing it around? How do you deal with it? Well the top I'll probably do both but that's going to be extremely difficult because you don't want to sell it into Fiat and then the Fiat off solutely does go to zero the next day, correct. The best thing I think I could give to your listeners is this I wrote in investing Rules book. I was asked as The Silver expert to write the wage. And rules of silver investing. So if you go to any search engine, you can just type in ten ten rules of silver investing scroll down past the ads and see one that's links to the Morgan report. So here's the rule number one when all else fails there are silver. No one wants to be a prophet of Doom but the simple truth is that silver is the world's money of Last Resort should have severe economic collapse occur. Leaving paper assets worthless silver will be the primary currency for purchases of goods and services gold be a store of major. Well, we priced too high for day-to-day use thus every investor should on some physical silver and story portion where it is accessible in an emergency. Yeah. I mean that's great advice. So I'm not too far off the Mark I look I guess, you know, I can I guess I could conceive of ideas where I start letting go of my silver for something else. I mean, you can't eat silver. You can't you don't want to sleep with it's not that long. ERM, you know, it's just yeah, I mean I can see myself obviously divesting myself. But like I said, I really think of an emergency emergency emergency money, but and you're right if it's chopped out I'd be stupid to go. Okay. I'm not going to go buy real estate if it's open to me. But then again, I would never want to trade it for the intermediary dollars the dollars of the things. I've been trying to avoid the whole time, right? Yeah, if you want to do it you first of all, I think you just was well spend your silver. For example, you still can create contracts in this country and so far and so you could say for an example, I I, you know, ten acres of land for two hundred ounces of silver as an example sign up the contract and it notarized bang you're in so now you didn't have to go through the Fiat system the landowner sold you last time you wanted that he wanted her silver and he'd done and he'll be more and more of that as what work through the report. I've been associated with this crypto that silver-backed and I think that that is a poem Ability to use in the future where you could take your digital wealth and turn it into physical coins and have it mailed to you anywhere in the world and you can also spend at the same time and I plan to do both but when you have a debit card, it's transparent to the merchant. So when I go to Walmart and I buy some underwear and sheets for my you know bedroom I should give them the debit card. They don't know I'm debiting that silver out of my account. All I know is went through the banking system and they could care less and I like it that way. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, you mentioned that I forget. What was it load. I forget the name of the song. Yeah. It's it's a g for the symbol for silver a g. I know folks. That sounds like a weird URL but these days you can have almost anything as a URL. So it's the symbol if she's over a g. Dennis the address. So that's essentially a commodity back crypto, correct? All right, and then you mentioned I wanted to bring this up because Are looking for Solutions David, you know as well as I do and I hate not getting Solutions. I everybody talked to the problem and we got some brilliant guys talking to the problem. But boy, we need some answers now and and that's what the Crusades she was always trying to find the Solutions Network. So you mentioned another thing. I wanted to kind of bring up this Zenus Bank. Have you have you done any due diligence on that? And you think that's something worthy you're looking into I think it's worth looking into and I'm not up and running yet, but I would definitely put on your radar because this is the way the system's going to go. There aren't going to be Bank buildings anymore or there may be a few but if you eliminate cash, where do you go to the bathroom for right, you know, and if your check you can already take your check and take a picture of it and deposit it until the piece of paper away. It never gets into the bank. You never mail it to the bank anymore. Yeah, cause I still too cuz I'm so old school, but you can deposit a check with a and so everything's going to they will be physical Banks anymore. I mean they're made again maybe a few wage. David to there wouldn't be any of this one left of my car. There's three left in the country. Okay, I'm wrong. I think you get my point. They're going away. Yeah, it's going all-digital and you're going to have to be tracked traced and tax. There's no way out. If you have a garage sale, you're going to have to do it over your phone. And when you sell that, you know use broom to somebody that wants it for, you know, $0.12. It's going to be tracked and traced home. Well, I'm not invite David Morgan into the Crusader Coalition that I'm having even formed yet. And we're going to come up with some solutions out of this. I don't care if it's Black Market parallel economy. I don't care what we call it, but we gotta find a way out. I don't want to be in that nightmare you're describing. Yeah. Well, I think there are going to be Solutions again. I refer to Franklin's book Highland and I used to give it out on some of the speaking with tonight invented the Silver Summit here in Spokane. It's down San Francisco and it's just a couple of times that has brought a few cases a couple of cases and I came out to my subscribers and bap. At the end of the day, I kind of gave it to you ever wanted it as a passerby it the trade show booth, but you know, it's an area I think is pretty accurate of where we could be going. No one knows the future but real life. I think if you want, you know, what some sound advice for me as a human remember ones be spiritually fit. Yeah number to one of my favorite memorized quotes is Chance favors the prepared mind if you're mentally and spiritually fit and you realize what it's happening and you might have known exactly no one does but you're mentally prepared that we're not always going to be able to buy bananas with a growing in this country. Everyone takes for granted. It can buy bananas Dirt Cheap anywhere on the anywhere in the state, right? And that's true. But will it always be true and the idea that sound money as much as I'm an advocate for it doesn't mean you necessarily going to get everything you want because we've always are off speak for myself. Sorry. We're I'm of the belief or was of the belief. They've had enough money to do anything right off. You'd go on vacation you buy a house. You can you know, leave your job with your boss, you know, all this stuff so money represented freedom to me Financial Freedom and freedom. That's a longer true. That's correct cuz you could have all the money down on Earth and if there's no beef available and you want to stake so bad, you'll give up to ounces of gold for a steak dinner, but it doesn't exist. Then you're not going to be able to buy it. I just want to be very clear that I'm pretty I had screwed on pretty well for the money question, which I've been looking at since I was eleven year old kid write but there's a lot more behind the money question is that we have really touched on over and over again today and thanks for reading the report. I've never had anyone do that before and it looks pretty good for Piper's know. They've always been something consistent got admitted that way. It's kind of nice too. Bad it back and forth. I do put my heart in the head of these things. I really do. Well David I I'm going to well you are you willing to come back on. Can I can I chat to you more than once a year here b e Is yeah I have there were there. Let me think one two, three four. I think there were four or five more highlighted and read underlined sections that I didn't ask you because I said I gotta get the something on the Silverado Thursday kill me. And then I told you guys there are company updates in this report. There are there's an asset allocation thing. There's oh my goodness. I mean it goes on. I think it's twenty-something Thirty pages. I don't know there's there's advertises for his book and I'm not saying just go buy his book what I mean is you can if you get the report it's very easy to buy the book If you get interested in it, David Morgan has done yeoman's work on this report and looks like he by the way monthly after you do I do that much work every month. It's not just me. I do have a staff and it's not very big and very blessed. God has been very good to me that people who surrounded me with and you know a pretty big believer that you reflect out and draw back which get I'm not a new age or like, you know, whatever that is the secret or whatever but I do believe that if you do right by others usually attract people that are Sim I've certainly been blessed that way and I'm very grateful for it. Now what you definitely I think you exude that and there's one of things I got in and talking to you and I appreciate you you come on show is wrong you just trying to be honest and fair and straightforward somebody and like you say when you do that, I think the people will go. Wow. This is a guy I want to talk to at least at least a good-hearted person. We we believe in men of Goodwill humans a Goodwill. If you're one of those people want you involved in our fight if you have bad. Well we were kind of want you around because you're going to nag us to death. So so we we deal with this trait of that way to David. I'm going to have you back on the show. I appreciate you coming on and I hope I didn't take up too much of your time. But you listen to the David Morgan on the true money show. You can find him at the Morgan report, I'm going to have him back. 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Midpointe hotel by Rosen hotel good revanew

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05:28 min | 1 year ago

Midpointe hotel by Rosen hotel good revanew

"Hey everybody says prestige jay. I want to tell you you know now you listen to your favorite radio radio. Show or your podcasting <unk> well. I could do that though now with anchor you can. I love you in anchor <hes> because this is one of the many way that the takedown gets to grow more on <unk> more people and you can do it too so if you sign up for anchor today you could be on your way to get your listeners. You could find the show you you want. You can do news you do sports. You could do talk you could do trivia just be yourself. Be who ever ever you want to be but most important have fun. That's why have fun. This is your show. This is your moment. Make it what you want to be sign of anchor and you will not be sorry that you did this. Prestigious have a great day. Okay does this a prestige a._j. Of the big deal on again and i would like to say okay thank you to the feis staff at the rosina's in a hotel at the whole for maya joyful time doing podcast podcast mid twenty nineteen from mid point all the way to rosslyn <unk> <unk> manager violent creek. Thank you for helping me he when i nearly got his stole slash heat exhaustion doing that time that crazy file mom over at all rosalyn creek <hes> to the people at rosalyn center that helped me to get to where the bus flaws show me where the business center is kate. I didn't wanna use the other one because i wanted to who <hes> went back to my hotel but then but still thank you to the nice staff that not only the bus but also to the <hes> the business listener also thank you from to the staff of the <hes> the point as well for mandeville eh staff as well and also the housekeeping staff to make the room clean when i was going in and out during podcast moment so and also the parties to only went to one party because i was sick i did go to the party but anyway anywho uh so nothing but big thank you and i will give you a good review on tripadvisor visor hotel dot com and of course. I'm giving you a review on shell. I've also have given a review on youtube and fowl so <hes> thank you vaseline hotel. I ain't gonna be off to move to a best western plus plus over by suffered airport. <hes> within the hours twelve o'clock and one o'clock pm on today though stay in florida continues until the nineteenth and i just hoping that i could get food for two days and all that good stuff. I don't want to be stranded. Today's but no food though if you could save a little extra money or either pre pay for your hotel tells bay i would suggest that you will do that and try to pre pay for any <unk> that you might do even when the land based vacation thaw oh t._j. How making people laugh is what. What do i enjoy what people are having a good time as our laughing because of what i said or what i joke around or are you gonna debate that and iran hello. My name is christie and welcome to bakti country. I am the host the down county rats are my hi specialty and i love about my life and what the topic nil but also talked about my life and how how hard it is to lose them someone laugh and the big deal though is my show welcome the big country for more information about the big on go the big country dot net bakti country dot net and i nypd do impersonation like the dirac and bisbee made a stone cold steve austin cut out the bottom line called d. the day's set though if you marilyn how what jay cooke breath bad so more comedy and to get traveled rawal especially from podcast moment giant joy you gotta come by ken moment fifty dot net.

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The  Barrett Brief- A Benefit of COVID19? Remote Work May Become The New Normal

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12:10 min | 11 months ago

The Barrett Brief- A Benefit of COVID19? Remote Work May Become The New Normal

"So our our daily data revolves around one of the I find to be a positive of covid nineteen and that is and my church talked about this at the at the beginning when the lockdowns in the quarantines whatever you WanNa call him started this idea that hey families are going to have to spend more time together. This might be a good thing and according to this study from Gallup Dot Com reviewing remote work in the US under covid nineteen by Adam Hickman and Linda said nearly seven and ten and boys are still working remotely or part of the time all part of the time one four remote workers want to return to work face wants restrictions are lifted half cited preference for working at home as a reason not to return the whole Americana display or or scenario. Where you get up you eat your breakfast you get in your car you sit in traffic. You go to this random building in his random town. You sit at this random cubicle which can be moved at any time even to the basement you pound away on the Keyboard for eight hours. You then leave this random building you get back in your car. You sit in traffic and then you get home just to do it all again. You're wasting probably just in terms of productivity. Probably four to five hours a day when you could be working. Whatever your vocation craft whatever it is even if it's a low Menial job whatever whatever the case may be. You're wasting time traveling there. Of course people will say well using cars and going to gas stations getting food on the way. There's a lot of other economic stuff that POPs up there. I get it. I get it the the economics around. Having these buildings that people congregate in to work and leave the restaurants in the retail shops. I get all of that. I do however I really don't care. My whole focus is on families right because modernity in this American scenario that I just laid out for you getting up going to work sitting at work getting a car driving home probably picking up some Franken food process food for you. All to eat isn't attempt to destroy. The family keeping separated distant now to parents have to work so they got to put their kid in public school. You see where. I'm going down the road so Kobe. Nineteen has white all of that off the map from schooling to working all of these other things that everybody was kind of assumed you had to go to college get out of college. Go find some job in some office. Both of you have to work then you wait to your kid starts daycare and then y'all go back. We all know it and what happens yet. Fine while you're doing it you get paid Blah Blah Blah but at the end of your life. You're like I wasted so much time driving to work driving home. Of course I need to be careful what I say because talk. Radio really does well morning drive afternoon drive right so there's that as well but Kobe. Nineteen is changed that the outbreak has changed that the pandemic have changed my wife's been working at home for three months. And I'll tell you I tell her every time I'm like I'm so happy to have you at home all day. I love it. My Wife She went out today to go. Do some site checks just because They have to so the their employees employees. Don't think she's never coming back but I love. I love having my wife at home. You know the when. She's at home when I get done On the show that one we lunch together we hang out. We do you know she does. Her work do mine. I love it I love it and and there's a Lotta people that I talked to that. Love it as well. So and there's somebody. In the era crusade channel Dot com forward slash chat talked about that to this dude the person at Jones seven to eight hours once a week just driving. I am a part of this when I used to teach in Dallas. I lived in Fort Worth. I was driving an hour and a half to school to the school and then drive in an hour and a half back. That was if I was lucky and there was no traffic if I got stuck to two and a half hours three hours on the way home missing all that time with my wife and people are starting to see like hey I get a lot of my stuff done and not have to now. Of course you know if you have a studio like in Mandeville Louisiana you kind of have to go there right. You gotTa have to. There's a lot of jobs right now. And I've posted a bunch of them the home jobs from rat race rebellion. That doesn't necessitate even call center. Jobs now can be routed in done from your home if you have a quote unquote quiet area. And a hard telephone line and hardline. You don't need to go to a call center. You can do that from home. The amount of people that are now spending more time with their family and enjoying that time. Because that's your family. It's the reverse on what my journey has tried so hard to do. Let's see according to Gal Panel Data. The percentage of unemployed unemployed adults who saying they have from home specifically out of concern for the grow. I don't care about the question I wanNA talk about is when businesses re-open will workers return such a large share of the US workforce converting to remote work. The question will happen happens to be. As businesses and incrementally reopened start inviting or in some cases requesting workers to return. The answer may partly depend on workers willingness about a quarter of remote workers. Twenty six percent. Say that if it were up to them they would return to their office. That's not a large percentage folks. Twenty five percent said they would rather work from home And then the other half so twenty six percent said they would go back to work. Twenty five percents will stay home out of concern. The other half of people polled say they would rather work from home. They prefer it now. Of course it doesn't millennials that. Get the snuggle with their key cattle day. Oh Mr Kitty cat. We get to work from home in our snuggie but as as somebody who has worked from home for over three years now. I joke with my wife. We need sure I to make sure the crusade channel doesn't go under which by the way please go to crusade channel DOT COM become a member today. If you're listening on the previous dream because that's soon ending and if you like what you're hearing you can always drop donation in the accuracy channel DOT com slash chat little dollar sign in the corner. I talked I talked to my wife about. We got to work as hard as I can. Keep the crusade working. Because I don't know if I can go back toward an office job. I don't think I can go back to teaching because I'm so used to working at home. I mean if I had to folks don't you I would I would but I love working at home. I love it But half of the people polled in this Gallup Poll. And then get it. They're not it's not always a lot of people in all these other nonsense but half those people would rather stay home. They would rather be with their families instead of wasting four five hours a day and that's not just from this And that's not just from this poll. This is from the Wall Street Journal. I just need to read the headlines since I don't subscribe to it facebook to shift permanently towards more remote work after covid. Nineteen the alien. I'm sorry. Ceo Mark Zuckerberg sees long term benefits and working from home. If you worked for facebook do you really need to drive to an office to sit there and work on a computer now? I get having some kind of office. Some kind of home base were your higher level ups work and they can do meetings. As I get that I get having a Home Office where everybody can congregate. Because you don't want to do everything Zun calls. But at the same time if I'm if I'm basic programmer or coder do I need to drive three hours into work? Just a code or program. No so one of these advantages to cove it is that if you're working for a generic corporation or you're working for a corporation that allows you to or if you just have a job that allows you to work from home. That can also be the case as well. The you're going to see in the future probably within the next two years. A lot of office complexes strip malls all of these places that were built to promote this modern idea of. Hey Get your car Dr. XYZ amount of hours and sitting this office building louder. These office buildings go unused. And that's not just me throwing something out there that's from CNBC DOT com and the beginning of the month. More big employers are talking about permanently working from home positions Barklay CEO Jeff. Staley said crowded. Corporate offices with thousands of employees may be a thing of the past if you work for news bureau. Do you need to go somewhere? No so we're seeing a shift and it's not a shift that people were expecting they're expecting you know the core the virus is gonna hit and everybody's GonNa lose it and all these other things and they're gonNA itching to get back to sit there or they're going to be very happy to be corona vacations corona and just waiting for the government to take care of them but this poll is showing people like working from home. Working from home can be done and yes. There are some people that need to go into an office or unproductive. I totally get that But you can always set up some place in your home to make it more productive. Not Nasima distraction stumper different but this data is showing that people prefer to not be in the corporate environment. If they have the choice right Roy always told everybody wants to be in the corporate environment. People have been given the choice they don't want to.

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Mike Church Show Golden truth Ticket Finally and Winner of the 2019 Kia Soul

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2:39:33 hr | 2 years ago

Mike Church Show Golden truth Ticket Finally and Winner of the 2019 Kia Soul

"The last time I'm pretty sure what's killing the crops is this Bronco stuff the Broncos go, what plants crave electrolytes. So eight a minute. What you're saying is that you want us to put water on the crops. Yes. Water. Like out the toilet. Well, I mean it doesn't have to be out of the toilet. But, but yeah, that's the idea. But Broncos got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes. Okay. Look, the plants aren't growing. So I'm pretty sure that the Broncos not working. Now, I'm no botanist. But I do know that if you put water on plants, they grow, well, I've never seen no plans crowd, and no toilet. That's good. You show you ain't the smartest guy in the world. Okay. Look, you want to solve this problem. I want to get my pardon. So why don't we just try it? Okay. And not worry about what plants crave. Brando. Scotla Pence cave. Yeah. It's Golic Choi. What are electrolytes diva? No, it's what they use to make Brando. Yeah. But why do they use them to make brand runs? Rusty's new maybe. PK. We go in live today. Is there a card giveaway today? Clark. And so it goes and it just sort of kicked right in from their greetings to you. It is the Mike church show here on the crusade channel last live radio station, standing always online at crusade channel calm, and of course, we're alive today. On twitter. We're alive today on YouTube live today at crusade channel dot com. Live today on our apt which you could download for free Ozark in their Google play, or I to store today. Search for crusade channel radio so pokes big big day today, then give away a car. But two and a half hours from now. Becca is going to stick her hand into this little hopper here and is going to extract four tickets in order third runner up second runner up, first runner up grand prize winner of a Kia soul. But first, let's get show started by accede the question of the day. Why, why weren't list four going on here? Well, I'll tell you. He's a free phone Friday. You know what that, man remember Friday is a Wyant shirk? So if you want to go ahead. And where a wine, shirt and jeans. Oh man. Rupaul. Yes, it is. Charts past. Telling us what it is. We shall talk about your program while kinda sorta. Stop by bulldog Kia. We'll see you. Bulldog Kia online at bulldog, Kia dot com. Give them a call. The best Kia dealership, car dealership period in North America problem at eight five five bulldog, eight five five bulldog, and they really do have the slogan. We'll see you Pat bulldog Kia Sar seventh year being a spokesman for the, the colonels and their business partners here at bulldog Kia. And we've been very very, very blessed. As a matter of fact, we. Then below applause there, we are actually staying with the with the Colonel family, and we had a steak dinner last night resort. The your your, your headset is there. We still kind of crawl across Accenture here, we had a steak dinner last night, that is that was quite possibly, you got a picture. This didn't cause people I can't pitches photographic evidence of this should have. I think I Instagram that out too. Yeah. This was quite possibly the largest assemblage of means. I think I've ever seen because Mr. Colonel cooked, these rib is that were this thick and then new New York strips that were this thick and they were so big. We're all looking at going like I don't think I could shovel that in my in my gullet I think miss cut them in half he cut them in half. And they were still think rumors of my eating prowess, had had become more legend than anything else. And that's why he was like, well, I guess this one guy. He he's like a storm. My part I had two pieces. So all her that Barrett was coming and went like, well, you know, the king nude in the mid is king. Do don't you know if the their normal share this guy will back cleanup, right? Right. That's right. And you'll knock it out the park. So we had so much meat leftover. I know you have a picture, I think, I have of course, my phone is being used for the Ube watching on YouTube, bro. You could have been part of this, you could be on deck for a brand new two thousand nineteen shining silver Kia sold that we're going to give to one of you guys that's in this hopper right now. But because you didn't feel your bracket out now. You had golden truth ticket of desire, Ken, late does bap is ridiculous notion of baptism by desire. There's this golden truth ticket by desire, right remain. Tico. T. K D, A Menchaca wing kid. Would they wanted to go into one? I Dinna fi is ticket holder. I I love that what I. Defies a ticket holder. But folks, really, we are we are delighted to have all of you here so far. Barrett is to up on me on the crusade channel live chat room, which you can join right now at Mike, church dot com forward slash chat. That's my church dot com forward slash chat. No, I sent an Email out to three emails out this morning that said. If you're not listening to this show today. You're disqualified from winning golden triptych. No, I didn't send that out. I sent out we're going to be very disappointed in you. And we're going to send you a nasty letter telling you how does appointed we are in u but for those of you that are listening and for those of you that are watching on YouTube. Thanks for joining us. We are going to have one wail of a program here today. Our friend from Java joy from extra handy. Capable kids will be here momentarily, dispensing, some of the, the best coffee in all of Georgia. We have great stories to cover that. We're going to get into here. We're going to talk to the prepares the bulldog Kia and about some of the work that they've done here in the community, and this makes it a an extra special an extra special gathering here because of the presence of, of the kids from the young people from. Joy. And from extra special people, you know, David was telling me and I'll let him tell the story later, he was telling me they do this fund raiser, every year where one of the kids jumps out of a plane with a tandem skydiving expert, and I guess he has buttons pen, Donna and every every button, it's ten bucks or something like that. And there is like thirty thousand dollars onto sky jump, and then they have a, a big dinner that day, a big pageant, a talent show, basically for these extra special people. That's what they're called Handi capable kids, and I see I see them here. I see him walking around lobby now. So it's just a great charity. And it's, it's, it's become a big part. So big now that if you go to what's their website, mizzle Connell. If you go to their website, you got a book Java joy, kids people like two or three months in advance. They have gigs now where they're serving their coffee. And Atlanta and what this does is basically employs children that, or, or people that were born with some, some disabilities, and you'll, you'll get to meet them. I, I don't want to describe just we'll introduce you to them on the on the YouTube later on or you can go to the website at Java. Joy dot org. So coming up on this hour of the Mike church show here on the crusade channel last live radio station standing your home for the two thousand nineteen Kia. Soul golden truth ticket giveaway that list for me. Let me recap what's happened so far today? So we just have fun with the with a giveaway this year with all we would break it actually, we had this really, really awesome plan planned out what to do with other tickets. But I didn't introduce it to the team until Monday. And they all went that's something that would have been used for like six Mondays ago. Mike, maybe you can use that next year, but that won't work this year. TK d- by chat room again Mike church dot com forward slash chat. It's live, three don't cause nothing. Stop in or look for the official king dude on Twitter. I mean on Ube and you can watch the show, right there on the YouTube. So what we thought we would do this year as just pulling for tickets out at the end. Is that we would make this kind of like a turnament and trying to make it fun for the entire six hours and thanks to Richard for traveling all the way here from on his extra special spirit airlines flight where where you were a surrogate. You're a surrogate husband, you're a surrogate father, your resurgent best friend. You were. You're all kind of surrogate, some woman on a plane which is a big deal because I don't think any people to begin with. So I mean they made me do stuff, so you should be with MS O'Connell, because Maggie has a say in that used to, like, people. But people cured me of that. Yeah. Right. Right. That's on an old sane. That's a that's a current sane. I used to like people. At for me. So what we what we divine to do and you can see this here now on the Uber. See there, I'll show it to you. Hey, this is a fischel to K if this like falls on the ground of gives burned the whole contest is over, and we keep the car. Seriously? We divided the fun into brackets, kind of like the sixer the March madness NC double a basketball tournament where you start with sixty four you know, and you go down to thirty two sixteen and then for the in the final four with the difference plane being that these guys aren't actually going to have to play each other. It's just for fun. So we divided the ticket giveaway up into the northwest bracket, southwest bracket, midwest bracket next up coming up this hour in the north east bracket. And then the final bracket will be the only bracket that matters and that's the southeastern conference because that's the home of the Georgia BULLDOGS. That's the home, of course, of my LSU Tigers, by the way, tiger's playing Florida. Florida state tomorrow, Florida, right, Florida into super regionals. Guess wear Alex box stadium baby we got. The home game for the super regionals two games away from a trip to Omaha. The Tigers are so great excitement in the southeastern conference. If you're a baseball fan exciting weekend baseball coming up. So then we'll do the southeastern conference, and then the remaining ten tickets will go in here. Now, they'll come from the you can't see Anabel when when when back comes into pull five tickets for the north Eastern Conference, you'll see the Jain norm hopper over there. And we had a little baby has little, brother here, Mike, Charles Kulon at the same Benedict's who hell, I've missed you. So north west bracket, went, I. John canal. Stephen GM Reese, annadale, Theresa transom in the northwest bracket. Second hour the Baird brief southwest bracket, Stephen GM, or ISA gin Saint Benedict center finally, Peter care, our friend from from Madisonville Kevin Gannon our friend from Long Island Christopher Williams, our friend from Colorado. We know all those, the all these people are qualified so far midwest bracket in the last aired brief Gerald Somalia, faded, three four truck is, you know him into chat room. Greg Taylor the same Benedict center now has two chances to win miles Hendricks and Dan Pearson. So and twenty minutes or so. We're going to pull another five and they're going to go in here. And they're gonna get to that braggers. So that's what's happening here today on the on the Mike church show here on the crusade channel last live radio station standing and again, we invite you if you're watching on. Youtube and you enjoy the show and you're going like this really cool that you guys are doing this. Yeah. It is. Why aren't you a member? Why are you paying Steven Crowder ninety nine dollars a year for a stupid coffee mug, when you be founders pass member for just a little bit more than entire radio station as twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, never goes off air or it. Let's get to the news here today. I wanted to do this story yesterday ran out of time. This is our Reno at first things dot com. Now, if you don't know there's a let did you see the picture because people are pitchers. There is a there's a story today at the American cow, by the way, I am getting mauled in chat room numbers. Well, the, the people's Cremona will people right now is taking the hill in the chat room. This is folks, this will not stand. As a matter of fact, I'm not pulling five more tickets, all cut it off. I'll cut it off. And who's in here right now? If you don't go to Mike church dot com forward slash chat and get me over forty one. This will not stand man is a at the American conservative magazine website. If you blouse on over rodri-, or has a piece about this and he has a picture because people like him pitchers. Why conservatives are freaking out, and there's a sore of Mari on the right? And David French on the left French. Just looks he looks diabolical. You can't say that about that, man. You don't know what you're right. I don't know him also, you'll get the speech, as he's a stunt conservative, who served in Iraq. Okay. Yes, I get thank you for the for the qualifier a book, chaper checked a chapter, attacking nationalist later formed, a substantial part of his TAC bashing jeremiad against antiwar conservatives, David fromm, summarized dispute, then raging on the road, right by quoting ten sixty six and all that on the conflict between the Cavaliers and the round heads wrong. But romantic versus right. But repulsive days into the low grade conservative civil war between seora Amari, and David French, it is tempting to draw a similar conclusion mile colleague, Matt Lewis now at the Daily Beast makes the following assertion of the president's favorite social media, platform, the schism on the right went from cows. Seer tear. Versus moderate to stablishment versus outside been haw-. How another prominent online. I how can you what is this creature Barrett that they've created call and other prominent online, conservative? What the hell does that even mean what is an online, conservative, don't you have to kinda step out of this and actually ended a real world? You know. To actually be anything conservative liberal. What, what does it matter? Whether you're online or offline in any event, they know their prominent online, conservative. We've created an entire new species of human social media capable and social media incapable or social media withdrawn like you, and like you mid our money's going right? So there's this feud going on here. Let me break the few down here for you. The here. If you're watching it on you for the first time, haven't seen a Mike he, you know, what would be really funny somebody going to YouTube and type the following, in as a chat message, I used to live you when you. Share today. VU new talk radio was invented by include will cow. David Webb Jimmy said they raid, you good on news. Right. Because that's the only platform where people are allowed to talk publicly. Right. Oh, except for this one that you're currently watching listening. Religious and social conservatives here. Here's what this, this divide is alleged divide. Basically comes down to it comes down to now. I would have welcomed the opportunity for this to be me. I've happy that it's so rabble Mari. But Amari is lar- he is a lot more correct than he is incorrect. And, and we may have some small quibbles with rebel Mari, and just manifesto that he and other sign signed from first things dot com. Again, or arena didn't ask me to sign it. If you would I would have signed it, and I know some of the guys that signed it for the first time Philip Michelle Obama for the first time in my adult life, I'm a little too high in the actually proud of for the time, right? Clap. So for the first time no seriously for the first time in my adult life, there is an actually there's an actual real and substantive challenge to the Neo. Con deceptive con fake their calls himself a conservative someone disorder app. Amari, guys actually called out the fakes the David French's of the world and the and the David from of the world and. And Joan of Goldberg's in the rich Lowery's of the world and is actually told them you're wrong, because you get the most important question wrong. And, and he now, here's the most important question, who has alternate authority in all of our governmental affairs, this, if you answer this question correctly, I don't care if you're a lib tarred, okay, what you call yourself. If you answer this question correctly, you're on mister Barone, if you're going to do that, you gotta turn down. Okay, yes, I'm still schooling Barrett. Somebody have a whips I could just cracked his guy upside the head somebody's mad about their chat numbers. Somebody's doing a chat numbers actually, I'm up to forty three now. So Mike in the. He's threatened them. I don't have any principles on this. Victories of victory, pal. Right. Right. W w as they see golfers people aren't pitchers, but there's no pitchers on a scorecard as okay? Here's the only question that you, an specially talking to be able to have never heard this show before a great opportunity for, for us, actually. Entice you to come listen to the crusade, because we're going to answer this question correctly. What's the question? Who has ultimate authority final of forty in all of our governmental affairs all of them. No exceptions, who has alternate authority now the frauds that I mentioned are going to answer. It'll be, so I got my Maga, but I'll wait a pipe how Trump automated party, you idiot. Who has alternate authority most of you answered. We the people and wrong answer Chet, you remember the movie weird science member, Bill Paxon. What does she turned him into at the end of the movie of big tarred? Mid a fly was buzzing around in Bohol last half hour movie, we'll be to your free to termi back into, you know, because he had he had to go to the prom in a giant. He saw the, the bowtie was hysterical. What's so the correct answer to the question is not we the people. The people cannot possibly be the source of all political power. They certainly cannot be the source of all thority, that is exercise on the affairs men. So what's the correct answer? What, what's the proper answer? The proper answer is God almighty God is the ultimate and highest authority, no questions asked. Full stop do not Pasco. You don't get two hundred dollars God. G O, D God is the ultimate authority if you answer that question correctly. And if you tailor your life and. Commit all of your actions public and private towards answering that question correctly. And in fulfilling the first commandment, which is thou shalt love thy God with all their heart and all I soul, right? If you answer that question correctly and fulfill, the first commandment your government will affairs, regardless. I don't care if you have a kingship, acquaint ship a little prince Princess ship, like Disney has a democracy, Representative Republic of fiefdom a futile, a feudal land fuel lords. It doesn't matter what kind of system, you have, if you answer that question, correctly, and then after answering that question correctly, if you then obey that first commandment in the fall Indian suing affairs. Will you keep your keep your religion? Map product game buddy. That's the problem. So Sohrab Amari has answered the question affirmatively correctly. David French, rich Lowry and all the rest of the fakes. Call themselves conservatives all of your favorite he rose on talk radio. John Hannity being me Khimik me, do commend creamy all answer incorrectly. All of them every single one of them. Yes, including all the prize people on my former home, Sirius XM patriots channel all answered the question incorrectly. Now look. Can you live in a society that has we the people as the highest authority for retire this? You now see the devolution of society happening all around us today. What do you think is the cost for that? What allows this madness for headlines like this? I must have lost some of my headlines the hold on. I got dizzy, prince story here somewhere. Does it Disney? Princess here. I have I have. How do you explain this headline Disney introduces its first boy, Princess on show that also featured first Sodomite kiss node, I didn't say gay gay means happy. How do you explain this? How does this even get out the starting gate? Why is this even an issue who in their right mind is going to turn their children loose on this channel, and let them watch this garbage? Right. How does this even happen? How is this permissible? How is this even allowed legal because the order has gotten completely inverted? So can you have that society that has we the people as the ultimate authority? Yes, you can you're living in congratulations fifty nine million aborted. Carcass later. I'd say that the question has been answered in correctly, and all that's happened. Here is sore. Abba, Mari has answered it correctly. And then shallan JD the French Easters the franchise, the Frenchies Frenchies the Frenchies the David Frenchies of the world. What's that? They'll surrender the hotel wants rent. They're not going to surrender. So if you answer this question, corrector, correct. Then that's the that's the whole ball of wax. That's the entire enchilada here. So I had the story from yesterday and from our Reno time to take the lead. And he's writing about this exact discount flicked between these, these alleged conservatives, these fake conservatives. Now, why do I say, conservative, who you fake conservative, who made you king? Well, if you answer that question incorrectly, and they did. And they fancy themselves conservatives. Then they have to be fake. No, there is no concern conservatism that does not run through the Christian history of the world into discussion to what, what, what is worthy of conserving and paganism, what is worthy of conserving and barbarism. What is worthy of conserve? The insert your system of government, pre Christ. What's worthy of conserving in it? The length of a day. God did that they didn't do that. That's why they're fake. If you answered the question, correctly, ultimately and sorry for our, our Protestant evangelical friends, many of whom are, are here today, but to be even history. Is a review Protestantism? I didn't say that. Cardinal John Henry Newman. Now, Saint I believe he's at least blessed Henry Newman said that. So let's get you the point here. And can we round up the our Vanna white are Dian Parkinson? She was the one that was on the prices. Right. Wasn't she? She was the one. That was having a fling. Dan with Bob Barker, right? So before we get into into fleshing out in any more detail. You wanna do the honors with the camera. Okay. So here we're gonna we're gonna. Try to get Barrett out of the way. So this is for the north eastern bracket. We're going to pick five more names bekker's gonna give that, that hopper a spin. and we're going to pick five names and you're going in to the final drawing here. Here we go. Name one. Mundy Dan, Monday why he sit he we have two people in the room? William Harris, Harris. Okay. Richard, Richard Baker Meyer. I know him. Saint Benedict center. Okay. That's three brother. Gerald. Gerald show-me. Okay. Another one. That's he didn't pay forward row fifty three four truck is having a banner day here today. Thank you back. you need this. So you're in the northeastern bracket Monday, actually, the bracket you're in. How do you like that? Wow. Never saw that coming. No. I thought you I thought you donate, it all your tickets. Hatha. Okay. All right. So, so the so brother. Andrea Marie has a now has three tickets hopper. So we have one more bracket to, to pull correct. So that makes it we have a total of twenty names now twenty tickets that are going into the little hopper here. Oh, I've missed you, my friend. I have missed spitting you, my buddy? So at the end of the day, the end of the show, we will alternately pull four three two and one from this offer. And what we'll do is real pull a number. All right. We need to get the maintenance crew and get some, some WD some three in one oil on this opera here because MS O'Connell she wants the hopper locked up. Like it's a Hannibal Lecter on the on refrigerator cart kind of late me. When I travel with her, you know, I had the sock in my mouth, and I'm strapped into in industry industry jacket. Toughen, you toughen, you such and such Stant. Mom. Okay. So back to our Reno 'cause I really wanted to cover this story. There is a practical reason why we should lead rates are Reno here on this. And by the by chat room numbers of Forty-six in the chat room, you'll only need five six more to break the all time record of fifty one. So one is I believe the single one tie listening, chatroom record. So my church dot com forward slash Chen. You wanna be a part of history, don't you share? You do. There's a practical reason why we should lead on this issue rates. Reno who is the editor of first things? First things magazine, and first things dot com. And not just a religious and social concern conservatives, who unlike libertarians and classical liberals number in the tens of millions not tens of thousands. There are plenty of working class people whose native political intelligence tells them that our country is in trouble. I don't think anyone disagrees with that statement. Everyone knows that a screw is gonna loose. Everybody. Everybody knows that something has gone seriously, terribly wrong to one knows what to do about it. Go back and answer the question I asked you earlier. That's what to do about it. We'll miniatures plays. We can't do that for three hundred twenty million people. Exactly, exactly. So don't worry about three hundred twenty million people, where about the three point two that live in your house start there. Right. They experienced the breakdown in Maui marriage the declines in life expectancy and the erosion of community. They're not looking for neutral leaders, this is the other facade here you talk about this Ricardo berry with the upcoming fight fight to see. Who is going to get beat by Donald Trump and November of two thousand twenty twenty about how all these metrics come into play. Well, he's black enough. She's bragging. He's not gain. He really us go. You know I mean seriously. He saw Moore gained this. You're not they're not pro-infanticide here here here. Let me give you a metric here to show you how far off track track the United States has become one of the major presidential parties is going to have a nominated ceremony BIC hoop. Do convention in August washing they'll go first because they're lose. In July of this year. Okay. The person that's going to be nominated by the democrat party is going to have to propose in fantasize in order to get the nomination. He's going to have to defend Cuomo quadruple in new in new, teen octave limb, he's going to have to defend the constitution amendment in Vermont, which basically says, if a baby could be born breach. If that's possible is the head is out, but the shoulders are still in. Hey, man. Not our vase. That's her body. Well, actually, at that point. I think it's a separate body but yeah. In Vermont, it's legal to get a black decker drew, but a quarter inch bit. In the back of the baby's head, get evac tractor device. Right out, Tony legal legal in New York. They're trying to make it legal in New Mexico there. They just made it legal again in Illinois. Let me tell you going to have people in Illinois, Chicago's bad. Now, the murder you ain't seen nothing yet because, you know, in two thousand Chicago past or basically Illinois, Chicago, the Illinois legislature legislature passed I act in the United States, it was called the B, A, P A born alive. Infant Protection Act K. What did it say this grisly scenario? I just described to you with the drill and. That was made illegal babies were being born. They were being stuffed in broom closets next to the delivery room, because he abortions were botched. They were born alive. Guess what they did. They left them to die. There was a nurse. Her name was Jill Stanic, Jill Stanic by the by up to forty nine chat room Chatters now. Three away from the record. Mike dot com forward slash chat. Jill stanek? Remember that name Jill Stanek witne? And she was a nurse at, at the last last time she was told by a hospital administrator that all she could do was make the dying child comfortable while she and other nurses, had to listen to that baby scream figuratively speaking, bloody murder for day two days until it finally no water. No food. No milk it died. Illinois passed in two thousand the born alive in from Protection Act to stop this who was the only vote in the Illinois Senate that voted against it. Marach sane up. Hussein. Oh, mom mumbo, only vote against it was Barack Hussein Obama, the, you know, that the legislature of Illinois has just repealed that born alive in for Protection Act basically babies surviving abortions. Now you now what's going on here, folks when you say something's going wrong? It's not just gone wrong. The, the desperate. I see SEI's man is here. It is that a East Carolina pirates. Yeah. Buddy. The pirates hells. The, the fact come on in your pill. The fact that this is now legal game. So child could survive in abortion in Illinois, and is not going to be resuscitate is not going to be cared for. It's gonna be stuck back into broom closet. This is an actor desperation their demons at work here. I don't care whether you believe in them or not. They believe in you and they most certainly will come after you, Mike. Sure. Show here on the crusade channel last live radio station standing. So when people say that church played this not that bad. No, dude. It's, it's that bad. It's that bad back to Reno r r Reno here in the subject of the Frenchies versus the God. Closers, let's call them what they are the real conservatives remember conservatism runs through the history of Christianity. No exceptions full stop. Commit your mind to it. You're going to be better role. The libertarian inflicted inflected, conservative establishment fixated on live limited government cannot provide this kind of leadership. Now, when leadership is he's talking about they want. Okay. What are the people actually accede for as they see their society crumbling around him? But what I just discussed they wanna vision of national renewal covenant and solidarity. You can't have solidarity unless you have the faith folks. It won't hold unless you have the faith. I'm sorry. It won't be. Do you want answers? Do you want solutions? We provide them on the crusade channel if don't want solutions while then go listen to Andrew whoa count, and half fun and enjoy his perfectly executed political. Commentary, or whatever it is he calls it. These day starting knock on Wilco. There's no solution there. There's no solution hanging out with David Webb or Sean Hannity or any of the others, either. Sorry. That's not a knock on them. They're phenomenal talent eugenic. They make more. No, I'm not jealous. Actually in. I'd say pity is more of a, a correct emotion than than jealousy here, folks, this is bad chastisement is coming, Jay. We've earned chastisement what we've done, we contraception and boarding babies. And now another story that we have in our pilot prep here today. Let me just show. You the headline if you're watching this on the Ube look at this. Was that say, redecorating regard? Let's see that tells us just like female genital mutilation, transgender chess binding is barbaric. Trans gender chess finding you know what that is. That means that a twelve year old little girls like a little girl just came in with her daddy. With a SEI's man on Twitter. Tim Williams from from South Carolina, decides or her tranny. Mammy pimp mother decides that she's a boy, because she thinks she's a boy, and in order to disguise, the fact and try and suppress that the hormones that are now growing certain body parts, we can suppress this you dope 'em up with some sort of some sort of steroid. Too much too much interference. Well, when you wanna talk during your cell phone. Doberma- with some kind of a of a of a male steroid, trying to lay their puberty, and then do what take these God awful to these godawful girdles, if you will go around the torso, and, basically, strangled, a child K, make it almost impossible to breathe, but it smashes the breast the young that's growing their pushes it into the body and tries to, to arrest its development is folks, this is like being like locked up. You know what an iron maiden is this is an iron maiden for a thirteen year old girl. Back to our Reno. So this perfectly encapsulates this David French versus seora Amari, or those who are God closers versus the fake conservatives. The libertarian inflicted conservative stablishment fixated on limited limited gum. It cannot provide this kind of leadership. Did you hear that religious and social conservatives can this does not mean the accuracy as Brit Brad Stevens insinuates, by the, by no one is talking about it. The crecy. If you listen to Wednesdays. Mike church show here on the crusade channel last live radio station standing go to Veritas radio network dot com and get my or download our content at crusade channel content app free in the I tune store and Google play store, you'll need to be a founding brother founding father or crusader level member in order to unlock the app. Give my interview with brother. Andrea Marie on Wednesday, brother actually talked about this because he's reading his fantastic. You remember the name of the book. Author's last name is Jones. I know that and this book actually talks about this, there was no theocracy means somebody forcing ISA Bella and Ferdinand to make Spain Catholic. None of the king Louis were forced by the, by the pope, the Holy Father to make France, the eldest daughter of the Catholic church, there's, there's no. When when, when you think theocracy, there are theocracies in the world. It calls Saudi Arabia, you think the Oxy, they are the Oxy's on the world? It's called Turkey. You would think theocracy there aren't the Christie's in the world, and I am a few more cutter the United Arab Emirates these are the accuracy. These are imposed this conversion by the sword Christianity can never convert by the sword. It can only convert with your free will, which reminds me Minnesota. I told you to remind me to do this win France's when Papa Francis tries to change the, the Potter. No stare. Now, if you wanna weigh around escaping, this, this assault on sin. And that's what this is. This is assault on the concept of sin because that's what the changing of the our father is. What is it? Because the way it changes the verbiage, what is it doing? It's removing your culpability for sin. It says that will ardent release in God made me seem godless, God allowed it. So he must have wanted me. So it's not as sad. Right. Don't think that this is not an ad Louis abominable change that the that the pope is trying to force feed upon the Catholic and the rest of the world. See how you get out of this, 'cause you're fringe to do. Eat you who do you because we're brain gig new quarter minis, we believe in clear, collegium, will you go ahead and do that. I'm gonna say the Potter no stare, and I'm not going to change it. So when I get the balloon toss to I I'm not changing it when I get to the whole part about. Demetria nobis. Secret at knows Timothy was Tori was no streets, if you just memorize the Potter knows in Latin, and you'll be done with your, your Nova Sordo. Lukewarm, any friends won't won't won't know what you're saying anyway. Sell the I guess they muster interpreted Latin here. Let me give you a clue. No one is going to translate the new our father in Latin that is not going to happen. Two thousand nineteen the male female dance has been disrupted by radical feminism and LGBTQ jihadists racial relations are being poisoned, not just by the biggest baiting Griffey's. But by the mainstream media immigrants are not assimilated, all of this erodes solidarity, deliver -tarian classical liberal leaders who have shown that they will not confront directly multiculturalism, and identity politics, religious and social. Coun-. Sear vittos heavy substantive vision of the common. Good one all markets can share now just because all markets can share. It one does it mean that they're going to and to doesn't mean that they're even going to attempt to do which is why I say, forget this idea of Mara as from key west all the way to Spokane Washington going that way. And then from. Baja California all the way up to Bangor Maine and everything in between. Forget it. It's over. You can't look the only way you could reunited three hundred and thirty million disparite individuals would be by imposing a theocracy the Muslims could do it. Oh, yeah. G hod could do it a caliphate. Could do it. You can't do it with the faith capital, T Capital f. Okay. We need an economy in which the which high school educated markets and their families can flourish, his Dan McCarthy laid out in our pages and first things. This means stiff arming the free market fundamentalists. I love this kid. It you, you get the, the image of, of the Heisman. Stiff-arming David French, there's more on this. I'm gonna get to it. It's a might shirt show here. We are live giving away a key associate just right here. Live here on the crusade channel from bulldog Kia. And when we come back, we'll start the next next hour, we'll do one more hour. And then in the final hour, five more tickets go in here. And then we give the car away. The Mike church show as his competition. The question fans sound like his. You are accurate. All the way down. Let me. Exciting. The preceding was not an actual Churchill fan but was instead, the voice of Terry print show losing his mind, the Preto, joining skills of the NFL's, Michael Vick. King do. Still his mother. On the crusade Chen. Older should be what? Thinking is our new king? Vote for kings come king. Then the lady of the lake on clad in the purest shinning say, might held Excalibur from the bosom of the wartime signifying by design confidence that I ought to carry Excalibur. That's why you'll king, this strange women nine imposes distributed soul. There's no basis for system of government. Sue premium executive power derived from, from the message from some fast. Call aquatic ceremony be quack you caught expect to wailed soup premium executive power, just some more treetop, sorta is always around saying the number just because some moisten pink love the semi tolerant me me away. Will you shut up? Now we see the inheritance system. In the system. I'm being repressed. Three or four loop didn't I? BG's just a little bit early today. It's the Mike church show. We are live at bulldog Kia. And we are giving away two thousand nineteen Kia. Soul today the some lucky winner. We have twenty people in the hopper seated to my right here, those four you can see tickets in there. We've drawn twenty we're going to do five more at the top of next hour when we come back from our top of the hour break, and then we're going to pull for the grand prize winner. I gotta tell you folks. Let me just give you the, the numbers here. Six hundred and two golden truth. Tickets sold six hundred and two. To approximately approximately well over two hundred and fifty different ticket purchasers, so you have two hundred and fifty plus people that purchase tickets one hundred uh at six hundred and two total tickets and I was just checking listening stats going, like, really give nineteen thousand dollars worth of drivable hardware away, and I can tell you that the amount of tickets, people that don't tickets are not listening. Unbelievable. Just choose to shock to me. But regardless of how many are listening, how many you're watching on our YouTube are YouTube preview stream here today, which we were making a free to anyone that wants to watch it find me on U2. the official king, dude. And you can, you can check. Anytime you want you watch the show. We have a live video feed here from inside of the conference room. Basically here inside the offices at bulldog here. We'll see you at bulldog Kia and we're going to this hour, we're gonna have a couple of interviews. We have the young people from Java joy are here, and they're serving coffee and a lobby until to the amazingly or for two Fortuitously. The reason aunt leave it to because they have another gig to get to. So if you don't know there's a group here in Athens, Georgia, Georgia, ESP, extra special people, and some of them are gonna come gonna talk to us a little bit about Java joy, they call them joy recess. Not Mary's tres joy restores from. And you're gonna hear all about this wonderful little charity that started here, and about their fundraising efforts, and one of the joy realtors. And one of the, the corporate outreach, I believe was her title corporate liaison or something like that from ESPN extra special people here and Athens, Georgia is going to stop. They're going to come into talk to us for a little bit. And then we're going to have following that, my, my buddy, Doug is going to come in. And if you're not following Doug on Facebook. I'll let you let him tell you how to follow him on Facebook. He is what you would call a special needs child. He's a young man. Now he's born with one of the downs conditions, and it hasn't stopped Doug, nothing can stop Doug. So Doug is like a reporter for the Georgia BULLDOGS, he goes to all the sporting events. Follow him on his blog post all the scores. The box scores. His description of the game. He just told me goes Mr. Mike, I really wanna come in and talk to, to the people about my, my, my, my new my new mission. I'm teaching people. You know, have similar conditions to me. I'm teaching them how to play tennis. I went. Yeah. You come in. Do you come here? You gave him the Bullhorn area. We'll give him. So we'll talk to Doug now to the reason that we're the reason for the season as they say. Here at bulldog key is therefore brackets that are now completed northwest southwest northeast and midwest brackets there twenty names on here and I had the ticket number. So I'm gonna give you to take it numbers following ticket numbers and people. So. Last three digits are four five one that John canal one seven eight that Stephen GM to seven sixty GM or is again, two four zero annadale, two two to six Theresa transom. That's north west southwest brackets one seven six GM, or ISA, gin zero nine, three Saint Benedict center, five four four my buddy, Peter care. Full disclosure, I do know. Peter Peter bought one ticket to one and he's in the finals two five three. Kevin, Gannon three seven zero. Christopher Williams from Colorado, that completes the southwest bracket, midwest bracket. One seven one Jerry saw me, a three eight zero. Greg Taylor four one five Saint Benedict center again, four three two miles Hendricks and six six eight. Dan Pearson, they're making it was the six eight that was one. Of the tickets that he bought it midnight last night Pearson mister Pearson. We had a big order came into pushes over six hundred and it was ten tickets and it was, Dan Pearson. So thanks to Dan. But Dan, God is rewarded who look. With, with making the finals, and then finally, the northeast bracket 235, that's Richard Baker Meyer, two five six day and Monday who seated to my left right here came all the way from New Jersey. You paid afford hogs for the 'cause it wasn't written on the ticket, but he it says, hogs for the cars, okay? Hogs for the causes in the house. three five four is Jerry Somalia again, five seven three is the same Benedict center in and six four eight William Harris, and we will get a nother five tickets at the top of next hour. So if you're if you're hanging on pins and needles by the by one of the Saint Benedict center, tickets was was purchased by Mr. Jeffrey Courson, who's here, St. standing right across from me here. So we have people actually in attendance that ever shot, the win this thing Monday. Now that never happened that is this. I say, never have this third time we've done this, but it, it has not happened. Okay. Are you happy with you watching a replay? Or is that okay? All right. Right. So I have the hoppers here, the tickets are here. We're keeping hopper here. Hopefully, Jeff is this in the in the picture people, I can't pitchers. The reason I'm asking just so people know that no one is monkeying with the tickets. Okay Schaefer, no one is sneaking, okay? A Ron Owens trying to re. Trying to rig the game. And sneak tickets or take them out. So I'm trying to keep the hopper in the video at all times. So you can see that I haven't done anything. Okay. Where do you my first guest here? Come in here at at at bulldog Kia. We'll see at bulldog Kia go on their website at bulldog, Kia dot com or give them a call at eight five five bulldog. We'll see a bulldog Kia. What's that? Oh, so is Tim looking at the Tel you ride. He's going. Now, if they sell a car today, we give a car away. I mean, come on, this is a crusade channel that look we, we own this town. Okay. It's an exciting day. We're very very, very excited about all that's happening here. And I hope look, there's so many people that I want to be in the final twenty. I the fact that Monday's in it and here the fact that courses in it, and he's here. And the fact that our that our friend, Peter cares, in at the fact that brother Andrea, marine sister, our beloved beloved beloved system Maria Philomina and all the sisters at the same Benedict center now have three shots in the in the final. It's great day here. We got a lot of, of great news to get to here. Not great news stories to get to here on the Mike church show. You wanna see if you can round up. I think David is coming with the Java joy people, I believe, and we're going to talk to them. I because I want to let you in on one of the great charities, one of the great charity, commu community based charities. That's here in Athens, Athens, Georgia, Georgia, which is the home. If you don't know the Georgia, BULLDOGS K. So when you see we'll see. The bulldog Kia, when you hear bulldog of the reason it's pulled key. Because if you did you note, I know course knows this. Did you note when you drove in that you're on headed out on the Atlanta way looking for love getaway love shack the Atlanta highway you were on? We're on the Atlanta highway dude. Yes, we are on the Atlanta highway. There's also the uh there's an REM song about the Atlanta highway because REM was a Georgia. Bantu right. Yeah. No. They're from atoms, aren't they? Yeah. Show the b fifty two's and REM are from Athens. I assume some of those, they must have went to UTA at some point time, so a little bit of history. Just a little bit of a rock and roll history of you will the of, of the, the history of, of Athens, Georgia. Now we're waiting for. And I, I see our fringe coming from Java joy, so I won't get into another story, but have a lot to get to for. For example, father, Kevin Kuske when to Twitter mob came after me. Okay. Come on in. Rick help her out. You can okay are you going to try to get her in? Okay. Sweetheart. You know what? Yes. Yes, Rick helper out without if you would. And she is on five. You don't wanna turn a five up Megan. Can you talk Kim? There you go. Now, are you going to you can take the other one if you want? Okay, so Megan. How are you? Tell me all about the fact that how long have you been a joy Reese, too? Don't member? Puppy a you are year, which your favorite part about being a joy Reese too, like. I give hugs I give out cards and we give the love to the people. You give a little to other people that sweet. So how old are you making thirty five you're not thirty five on a day over twelve? She's thirty five folks, can you believe that? So you've been a joy reached for a year. And can you tell me the names of some of the other joy reaches that you work with? Nikki. Nikki. Chris, Chris and Shuzeng they all here today. Okay. So have you served a have you served a, a Java joy to anyone yet today? Well, the could you make me one? Yes. I will go. Yeah. Okay. So that's what I wanted to hear. So tell me about how when you guys when, when you take the job joy on the road, and you go somewhere. What's the most exciting part, besides giving the hugs for you? Do you guys do do you enjoy loading the coffee up? Do you do? You do you enjoy making it. What, what's the most exciting part for you? Megan. Like we, we make the coffee in the truck. And sometimes we. Sometimes we go out of town itself coughing. I heard you go all the way to Lanta yesterday's you go all the way to Atlanta. Yes. So now he doesn't want to take any credit for this one. I'm going to give it to him anyways, or anyway, you know, that our friendship bulldog Kia that they donate one of those vans that y'all drive, so then it's a great thing that, that, that the bulldog Kia does so. Are they because I can't see them the Java joy van. Is it painted on the side is a Java joy? Yes, it is. It does. Okay. So when you're driving around people in Athens, honk at you guys and wave. Yes, they do. So is that excited does that excite y'all? When people when people honking wave. So it can you tell me a little bit about the parent kind of the parent company. I don't wanna say company organization, ESP, extra special people. Right. Okay. Can you tell me just a little bit? You said you've been Java you've been a joy Riester for a year and how long before that, where you doing something else at ESP. I used to tear foam. I used to live in Florida. I teared at school folk who K and then you can't show you moved here. Yes. I did. Okay. Are you a Georgia bulldog fan? Okay. All right. Are you in LSU Tigers fan? No. That's she gone. Okay. So tell me about some of the have you met any famous people serving coffee. Well, besides me emphasize Barrett and Mr. Colonel, okay. So do you drink coffee? I like coffee, the best. Okay. How do you like it? You like sugar and cream. What do you like cigarette Crame? Okay. So drinking an iced coffee right now. Yes, I am drinking coffee right now. Tell me a little bit about what, you know about ESP and what, what is ESP do. A fund raiser in. Be have some camps in, and then we have. Trip wreak in food trip week with failed trip field trip where are you going on a field trip to six flags? Oh, wow. That's fun to what you favorite ride, which you've done member. You don't. Okay. So you're going field trips. Now how many, how many people are part of ESP, you just a lot of people a lot of people do a Mr. Colonel was telling me that ESPN building a ball field right started about the ball field? Yes. Do you play a sport youth to? Yes to swim swimming. Where's my boy? I'm gonna talk to dug in a minute here, Doug is is teaching tennis. Have you ever played tennis? Okay. Can you beat him? Okay. So I understand that you guys had the pack up here at too, because you got another gig to get too. So where are you headed from here? Do you know going up to being going? Yeah. You've already had, this is your second of incident or does your third second, second today, where would you earlier? Okay. And that's where the other van was, but you have another gig to go to or not day. So this is it. Okay. So there's a website where people can go, and they can book Java joy restores to come and serve coffee. Can you tell me what the address is? Join dialogue Java joy dot org. Java joy dot org. Okay. So if you're watching is at home, or you're watching his wherever you need to go to Java. Joy, J A a joy dot org. And you need a book a coffee, which you do is you make a reservation. And when you make a reservation Java joy people come out and they will serve coffee at your event. Okay. Megan, I'm not gonna keep you any longer. Give give me a hug show. Me show, me that hug that you were talking about. Wave at the camera by wanted to talk to, to you. Megan. Okay. Thank you. And thanks, thanks for bringing now if if Doug is, is dug out there. If Doug is ready to come for his, his moment of fame is fifteen minutes fame. Folks, the reason that we're here is to benefit. People like the Java joy kids. That's the reason that we're here. Someone is going to win this vehicle. There are nine tickets that have been purchased for Java joy kids. Okay. So my next guest. And rick. If you will get missed Doug setup here. He's a pro he knows how to do this. You. You don't have to tell him this dog. Hey, how do I find you on Facebook? First of all, look at the camera, find you on Facebook. Hey guys. I'm glad to be part of this podcast with my church. So I do podcasting of call Doug dog. I do it Facebook and Instagram on Facebook, you guys can find me at Doug dog. DA WG and Doug dog. DA W, G, bro. That's right. That's right. So basically with my podcast with Doug dog. I do reports on the university of Georgia athletic sports, I fall with football or any sport. But mostly just particular sports, follow which is football, basketball gymnastics, sometimes. But swimming, I haven't done swim evidence women. No. Did you cover the baseball? We just recently. I did it. So I'm hoping that with baseball trying to maybe expand more because I think I'll probably want to cover more UJA stuff. So if you follow, Doug, if you go to Facebook if you're on Facebook us just if you just if you type in Doug, if you. Second word DA WG by the time you get to the w it'll fill itself in say Doug dog. Just hit Doug dog. Follow Doug on Facebook, and you can follow him on. You. Dunk dog on Instagram to I am. Yes. Now, you were telling me earlier, you've got a new thing that you're doing. Yeah. Tell me what you're doing what's, what's, what, what is your new field of, of training? If you will, of something that you're working at right now. So there's this. Jose Shen called special pops Athens, where people with special needs to learn how to play the game of tennis. And so, basically what we do is that besides on even though tennis is the main part at all. But it's also a way to do more things outside of Athens community here in Georgia. So I would like to spread the word to people in the community of parents that has child with special needs that they should look into of helping your child and support them to learn into a great organization of learning how to play the game of tents. What's call Athens pops. Yes at. POP. S. P. O. P S. Okay. So is there any other sport other than tennis or just tennis? It's just tennis. No. Are you going to be playing? You told me you're an athlete. You said you said, Mr. Mike athlete. You're gonna be playing sports at the new ESP field. No, I was part of ESP a while back. But then I've been busy with my other things that do you have job? I do. Guys got a job here. What do you do? I'm dying remanded at Chick-fil-A. I'll eat to highway the one with all the Christmas lights. And I also have a second job where I work. Yeah. If you don't even have a job, he's got. Yes. So I work at a place called Brett's, casual diner, or actually, is actually press casual American, and but it's a great place. I love working near I been working there from the fall somewhere in August. I think. Okay. But I love it. I'm food server in love being around people because I am definitely people is a people if you can't tell my board is people person. Now I gotta ask you, have you met coach Dooley. I have. Yes. Okay. One of their famous people, have you met being with ESPN with your with your with your blog many famous BULLDOGS? What's the guy who the one in back one Heisman? Herschel walker. You've met Herschel Walker. I know of him you know of him, but what about the one that just got drafted? Oh, fullback. Halfback plays for the Rams. Tucker early. Girlie girlie. Yes. Have you met Todd Gurley? I once. Okay. My most important question about Georgia BULLDOGS. Yes, the most best dress unique kicker in all college sports, Nick Blankenship, Nate Blankenship. Once once. Okay. All right. I'm not sure if you don't know who Nick Blankenship is this is the kid who is as a freshman, booted a Rose Bowl record, fifty three or fifty seven Barrett, fifty three or fifty. I can't remember the yardage fifty his first kick of the game in the Rose Bowl in Georgia was in the Rose Bowl set the Rose Bowl record for long distance for a field goal was it, Nick or was it? Why rigo? I thought it was Nick. Well, you have to, to really good kickers. Now David, who's the kid? Was it Blankenship booted the Rose Bowl record field goal? Was it Rodrigue? Oh. Rico Rodriguez Blankenship, so you'll recognize him because he's the only kicker now we're in context. He's got those horn rimmed glasses on grey bands, what he's made the glasses Namus. But another amazing thing about about the kid is he was a freshman in his first bowl game. Coach sends him out there to go boot. I think it was a fifty seven yard and everybody's going like. Terrible move for ordination this ball this too far. Bam sets the Rose Bowl record for field goal. So I was just asking if so you have met, Rodrigue o-, once you said, I think so by really sure because there are times when I would go to a game, but I was seeing like briefly like when Neko's who the dog walk and stuff. I'm always near close to the tunnel giving high fives. Hugs. And all are you. Yeah. Or even what's the wait a minute. Are you are you hugging on cheerleaders to know? I'm taking. Taking dog is all young ladies there. Doug dog is spoken for. Okay. Right. I hate to dash all your host and your dreams. But all right. So I want you to go, and I want you to follow him on man here as second or third year. They weren't here the first year. No. But last year. Tell you last year this young man came up to me, and he paced around. He was very, very, very polite, because we had the broadcast table out there and he was pacing around. I could see him hovering. And when we went to break, and as soon as like my headphones, off and get ready to go run to the bathroom. He waited for me when I came back to the table he was waiting for him. And goes, hi, Mr. Mike. My name is Doug Doug dog. I have a blog on Facebook. I follow the university of Georgia sports, which you follow me, I said, do Simi Simi friend request, which he did that day. He also sent one to Maggie O'Connor. We have a picture, we have a picture of Doug from that we took last year. And I've been following Doug ever since. I just want to my, my message to people that are watching this, Megan. Saw the. These are beautiful people. Just your condition to me, just makes you another unique child of God, and it's such a joy I get so much. Just joy out of seeing what these young people course, make it says she's thirty five. How old are you? I'm thirty one you are not thirty. Just seeing what a difference. There's our picture there you are last year. See there you got a green shirt on last year. So to see what a difference you can make and. In people's lives and what a difference they make in people's lives just by doing what they do here. So Doug dog on Facebook, and if Doug dog on Instagram, yes, thank you. Yes. And also do Doug on your screen so you can find it on both ways Facebook and Instagram. Okay. Well, doug. Thank you very much, buddy. Thank you. Mike are giving. Give me one of them hugs. Oh, Gimmie rain. They can be one of them. Hi fives. Yeah. Hey, he is the George equivalent of coach or Doron. At the end of every interview, no matter who talks to Ed oser around. Out there. Even going to play better all the money go Tigers. So so he ends every interview go dog. All right, Doug. Thank you, very much, Mr. Colonel, if you would come to take the cat or take the campus chair here if you would and we'll continue our little interview here, as we are live. Ed bulldog, Kia always online at bulldog, Kia dot com. You got involved with ESPN how long ago believe twenty twelve twenty twelve and you have provided you and your friend, your partner, James, and the dealership has provided two vehicles for the Java joy people, right? Yes. When did you first learn about ESP? Or where did they form in two thousand twelve know they've been around they formed in nineteen eighty six I found out about it because I got a phone call from Barbara Dooley. She said, David, there's an organization you've got to give to. And there's somebody, you got to meet I could just hear barbs dive. It there's an organization that you got the gift. The put you with them. It was not posed as a question posed as an option. It was you're doing this. And so she set up a meeting. I met with Laura Whitaker, the executive director and. Got to know ES was introduced ESP fell in love with ESP and bulldog key has been a monthly contributor to ESPN, and we've gotten behind a much of their efforts. So I just wanted to people that are watching it on home, and I talked about this earlier on yesterday show when you think car dealership. People really have this image of, you know, the greasy car salesman, restricting down here. Let's figure out what you're not should be car dealerships are also involved into community. Absolutely. How many people would you estimate have been? Employed bulldog key essential. You guys sort of wanted two thousand nine two thousand eight twenty ten twenty ten so nine years, probably a couple thousand people out of this community. I don't know if it's been that much. I employ forty five employees forty five. Right. And of course, there's some coming some going, right? We first got here. We're like at twenty twenty three where forty five now we've, we've definitely played some folks here, but with our, our contributions ESP we were able to make a huge impact ESP provide support to four hundred families in four hundred families four hundred families that equals about two thousand people. Wow. And in about twenty county area predominantly here in the Athens air. And this is Oklahoma county. We're in Athens, Clarke county at the next county over as Oconee ESPN actually in Oconee county. Okay. But we pass by yesterday and it's you know, it's on the Oconee county side of Athens, walk ins Ville, actually, right? They service predominantly Athens, Clarke county and surrounding areas, but they, they impact up to twenty counties surrounding Athens. That's incredible with families who have children with special abilities. Now, Colonel is one of the proprietors at bulldog and bulldog, Kia dot com. Let me I want and talk a little bit. If you would there's two fundraisers, major fundraisers that they do. Tell the people that are watching or listening driving about or at home about the skydiving fundraiser, so every excited about is I'm like, I want. Okay. I want in on the skydiving we might be able to make that okay? All right now, I'm not jumping out of a plane. That's no. You have to jump out of the plane. So how does it work? Okay. We'll I'll do the best. I came to explain it. So every may they have what they call jump fly. And it's one of their major one of the three major fundraisers year and what they will do is, they'll recruit some local celebrities. They call them or somebody who's fairly well known in that community to jump out of an airplane. And of course, they're in tandem with a jump master. But then, then they'll have people raise money to see them jump out of a plane. It's some- somewhat competitive, who's going to raise the most who raises the most money for whichever celebrity gets. That's he's got out of the plane. Yes, has jumped out of the plane actually coached. Do we coach? Grandson, Matthew jump has jumped out several times a fact, his first time jumping out of airplane, I got recruited to raise money for him. Barbara, right? So it's, it's a it's a great fundraiser. It's a lot of fun. We've actually we participate in that fundraiser. So for the month of April leading up to the jump fly, which is usually a middle of may bulldog key will donate one hundred dollars for every car sold for the month of April. Wow. Wow. So now just to put a coat on this and you're, you're wondering who is Barbara. Okay. So coach. Vince Dooley was coach of the Georgia BULLDOGS for what twenty nineteen sixty five until nineteen Eighty-eight. I think my goodness. So for twenty three my math is at twenty three years, twenty three years, twenty eight. He was he was athletic director through two thousand two. Okay. So coach Julie is very well known around here. Now tell the story of you will, of how barb duly became the spokesman smokes lady spokeswoman for BULLDOGS, Kia. Okay. So when I came to Athens acquired the dealership moved down here from Charlotte. Didn't know anybody. And so I had a I did radio advertising Charlotte and so through CBS radio. So I, I had somebody contacted a local radio station here. Right. And try to get connected. We'll found out. I said, what tell me a little bit about what's going on in the community. And I found out that the time Barbara had a locally a local radio show. She didn't once a week. And do why is it named familiar? Well, then it made the connection. Well, that's coach Dooley's wife. Okay. And so I asked the radio station to they set up a meeting, I'd like to meet her. I'd like to talk about potentially being a spokesperson, so they did that and Barbara came in to this very room and we sat down and, and she's very reluctant. She didn't know who I was didn't really know much about Kia and it was towards the end of the year. It was towards the end of the. Member in the BULLDOGS were playing in. I think that liberty bowl. Okay. So they're getting ready to head out of town to go to the football game. So I said, I'll tell you what Barbara drive Sorrento, you and coach take the Sorrento to the bowl game drive it for a week come back if you if you're not sold on the product. If you don't like it. No harm. No foul. You know. But if you like it would consider being my spokesperson, okay. That was the deal comes back a week later, she called she goes David, I love this civil until I wanna give it back. So she's been driving a Kia every sense. And, and she's been my spokesperson. Every says, is she the author of Wilson bulldog? She came up with will see at bulldog key. So whenever you hear me say that whenever I do my, my Lai plugs, and I say, we'll say at Moldova KEO by poor invitation of barb Dooley. Which you, if you're if you're in the Athens, a radio market or TV market you. You have heard the, the radio spots. As a matter of fact, when we first launched a crusade Chan Chan channel she actually recorded one for us. I wish you would do another much like you get my voice off of this all the time. But it just comes across as we'll say, Baldo K. And it's been what, so that's what. Two thousand and ten two thousand eleven so we kicked it off in twenty eleven. So for eight years. Bulldog had been associated, which is a nice association because the Dooley's BULLDOGS Kia university of Georgia. What's been your most exciting moment since you became a bulldog fan? Now stroz you came in. You weren't a bulldog. Fair, but you live here. Now I live here now. So I was SEC football fan prior to come in here. And believe it or not back in early eighties when Georgia won the national championship when they played Notre Dame. Oh, yeah. I remember and Herschel Walker, I kind of followed his career little bit when he went into the New Jersey generals, I think it was. And then that book busted up and. Yep. And then FLU never really did a whole lot in the NFL, I I'm not really sure why. But so I was I was a. Herschel Walker fence. I had that affinity with Georgia before I moved here. Okay. Moving here, obviously became. Georgia bulldog. And then, then I have two daughters that graduated from UGA over the course of time living here. So we're season ticket holders. We go to the games. We love Georgia football. I've been to a game with him by the by and it was a great. It was. It was an awesome, awesome game. Why Georgia one, we played LSU and, and it was? I'm trying to remember who was quarterback that time. But Aaron Murray Aaron Murray when I never I'll never forget the memory, I can't get outta my head of the game. One of one of the crushing defeat. I think it was an overtime. And number two was in watching the yellow shoe offense play the future MVP of the Super Bowl. Oh, LSU wide receiver. Gosh, what's his name, New York Giants, they traded into Cleveland Browns kill his career who owed L back. So Beckham I remember watching a game but we were into sky box. So we, we had beautiful shot of the field. And if you've never been to a game in Georgia go. It's fun. I mean it's a beautiful beautiful state admit I remember watching it. Beckham never went to the huddle would be over. He just kind of stand there and look at them. I guess they were giving him hand signals. They just gotta go out there on his wing out there and stand out there. And sometimes they the ball to him. But it never went into hobby was always perplexed by the hell does Beckham what they're doing? But it was it was a fantastic game. The dogs beat us in overtime as it was. And it was so hot that good thing. We weren't as we because it was super hot. Now I'll say one more thing about it. Bulldog fans or awesome. We got a lot of high FIS we had our LSU jerseys on, you know, they taunted us a little bit after we lost and all that bulldog fans are awesome. I've also been to two games with him. Falcons fans you could just do that, right there. And just cut their head off, and let it roll falcons fans or the worst fans. I even told I told James, he goes, you ought to come on. Well, we'll take it to falcons game. I'd say not missed Colonel makes me sit amongst the plea in falcon fans. I'll go if you get me, okay? Boc mike. We went to Felker's game when the saints were in town, and you're complaining about the Felker's fans. Saints fans are awesome at home. Yes, they're not awesome. When they come to Atlanta, we were we were, we were polite. We were awesome fans. What are you talking about? So have you been to a game in Georgia in the Mercedes Benz dome? Yes, I went to the Super Bowl. And I was talking to James James is his his partners. Visit parter. I went to two games into Georgia Dome. I thought it was a perfectly functional space, nothing wrong with absolutely nothing wrong with it. But I guess we needed to sell three billion dollars worth of bonds for Arthur blank and ship. So he could buy another seven forty seven or whatever it is. Don't Arthur blank. Arthur blank blankets ship is blank. Arthur blank who is the principal owner or the chief of whatever the of the Atlanta Falcons. So, and then there's one more promotion that is done for ESP every year, and it was kind of talent contest pageant, but it's more like a talent contest. They think they call it a challenge. It's a it's called big hearts. It's every February. If it is amazing. It's it's in the classic center, which holds I think five thousand maybe a little over five thousand this event sells out. Every year it sells out, and it's the probably the biggest fundraiser for ESP and all of the all of this special ability, participants of all age groups participate in this. And so it is like a talent show Paget, but based on age group K, and then in between the talent they have a skit they do that. That lasts for the whole duration of the of the pageant. Okay. And every year, those different theme in this, this year's theme was the miracle and because they're major thrust right now is raising money, which I think they have it all raised to build an accessible baseball diamond for kids of all abilities, now, what's interesting about the baseball diamond is this whole thing is going to be made on a rubber. Yeah, thank you could go to ESP miracle league dot org. ESP miracle league dot org and they have a video their talks about it. And what studies have shown is when when kids if kids can play together special ability, kids, and then normal kids, if they can play together there is they make no distinction about abilities versus lack of abilities. But most playgrounds special needs children cannot participate because they lack the physical ability to play in the playground. So that creates a natural barrier that special needs kids are, are they can't use those normal equipment. But what they found is, if they can interact together, as children, there's no discrimination. They make no distinction between the, the normal kids and the kids that have. Unique needs. So part of what's going on with the miracle league baseball diamond. It is all rubberized. So kids in wheelchairs, kids on walkers can participate in play ball, but next to it is a special needs appropriate playground. That allows children of any ability to interact with each other. Right. And so it's creates an opportunity where brothers and sisters because usually a family that has a special needs child. There's other siblings that don't have any disabilities. Well, this allows the whole family to, to play together kids that are normal kids versus kids that have special abilities to interact together. Okay. And so it's a fabulous concept, there was actually one in Conyers, Georgia that was built sometime ago, maybe fifteen years ago, and it's had great success. And so ESP is bringing miracle league. To Athens Oconee area. And they wanna start construction, I believe, by the end of the year, we need a there should be an ESPN every community and I don't I think it's just a thing here in in Athens. Right. Far as I know it's the only organization like it in the country. But, but there has been efforts from people in other areas, who know about ESP to try to duplicate that another. So, and if you don't know ESP stands for extra special people, and when I learned about it just last year when the job of joy a peeps came and serve their coffee. Hey, what is this? What does this job of joy? And as soon as I got my first hugs, and all that, and I met Doug, and I looked at I was like, wow, this is incredible. There's something very special happening here in this area of Georgia. And now, folks, may I get if like a B so bowl, it's going to point something out. There's not an on. Anyone else or any other state, but we crusade channel last live radio station standing and the Mike church show on behalf of the Barrett, brief and all of us here are as proud as we could possibly be to be brought casting live from the state of Georgia that just told the pro infanticide world to do this, and is standing now where no other state was standing before for human life at the earliest possible stage that has an effect is a grace that goes with that. And it's it's not surprising for me to see something like an ESP here, just because what Georgia is doing. And you look across the southern part of part of the United States, I was telling you last night. Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi Louisiana. Oklahoma, Missouri Kentucky and a little bit further north West Virginia has just added an amendment to their constitution. They voted on it in, in November. That's actu- actually during the no it was during the mansion was up reelection added, a constitutional amendment, that basically says the state of the state of West Virginia. No public funds can ever be used for any abortion abortive procedure whatsoever. And it all happened because a woman who's an ex Pat from Venezuela ran ran for the West Virginia. Senate and was elected. And Patricia Rutgers or name and good Christian woman you'd like her. And she was a Bill that came up in front of the West Virginia legislature. And she said, wait a minute. How can we fund abortion? And somebody said, well, because the constitution doesn't say that we can't she goes, well, we need to fix that a year later. It's fixed. My point is, is something special that's happening here. Ray here, Nathen, Georgia, and in the state of Georgia. And in the deep south again, it's just very special to be part of it. My segment is over next segment. Guess what we're going to what's that? We're going to give that we've gotta give that car away. All right, David. Thank you very much, folks. Like I said, what we're gonna do tickets at the top next segment. So we're gonna do the tickets and we're gonna come back, and I've got my twenty. Already on the list. Don't go away because your chains to be in the final hopper drawing is coming up next, and then we're going to get the car away right here in the crusade channel, the last live radio station standing and yes, we are alive at bulldog, Kia. Most crusade channel, one of these only get the mission half. Freight men. About to embark on a great crusade. To stamp out runaway decency in the west. So why settle for half big radio heck's crusading in mono when you can get the real deal. The Mike church show now. Who do you do? In stereo. Oh, the Mike church shows Cruces is on. They were radio networks crusade for the last time, I'm pretty sure what's killing the crops. Is this Brando stuff? The Broncos go with plants crepe. It's got electrolytes. So eight minute. What you're saying is that you want us to put water on the crops. Guess Lotter like out the toilet. I mean it doesn't have to be out of the toilet. But, but yeah, not see idea, but Broncos got what plants crave? It's got an electrolyte. Okay. Look, the plants aren't growing. So I'm pretty sure that the Broncos not working. Now, I'm no botanist. But I do know that if you put water on plants, they grow, well, I've never seen no plans crowd, and no toilet. That's good show. You ain't too smart and a world. Okay. Look, you want to solve this problem. I wanna get my poured. And so, why don't we just try it? Okay. And not worry about what plants crave. Brendan Scott lift. Yeah. It's Golic Choi. What are electrolytes diva? No, it's what they use to make Brando. Yeah. But why do they use them to make Brownsville? Okay. So. Recharge not quite that hot. Man, good. Help is hard to find folks, I got. We are live at our bulldog Kia at bulldog dot com. We're in live on the Atlanta highway and at Georgia, and it's come just about time now. We're going to pull the southeastern conference tickets in just a moment here. It's the Mike church show here on the crusade channel last live radio station standing. What's amazing to me is that if I were giving twenty thousand dollars way, I would think that everyone in the Tri state area they had a smartphone. We'd be listening right about now, I think everyone that ever knew what a crusade channel was would be listening right about now. I would think everyone that's ever been to our YouTube channel would be listening right about now as we get ready to give a car to someone, but such as it may, that's not the case yet here today. But we got an hour left to go here. So here's how this is to work. We got five more numbers to fill the southeastern. Conference. And then that gets twenty-five that goes into little hopper here at the end of this hour, we're gonna. We're gonna have Rebecca to come back in, and then we're gonna small hopper. We're gonna poll four three two one. And we'll get that here. And I forgot to mention that it is a free phone Friday. Oh, and remember Friday is a Wuyin shirt. So if you want to go in, and where a wind shirt, and jeans were that guy. Yes, the free phone day. They your task of what it is. We shall talk about here on the program. Not today though. Let me tell you what's going on. Scores. Are you ready to spend? Are you ready to turn that? Here's what we're gonna do. We're going to draw the southeastern conference five. Tickets now. Now fourth. Police third runner up gets a two hundred dollar gift certificate for the founders pass to us anytime that they want third runner up. It's one percent. I run or two percent. And then, of course, the grand prize. So who is? Anthony, hop luck ticket number one. Kevin kaliba. Java joy is in the drawing. There you go. Okay. Greg hristo. Okay. Two more. Matthew Adams, Matt Adams in the house. A last ticket here we go. Stephen GM are east. Okay. So they go in the small hopper now. So a Iran. Sorry. No AA Ron was driving a car away this morning. What are you going to do now because he was convinced that okay? I'll just go ahead and give me what are you need to sheet right? Y'all could just go ahead and give me the key or so, do we get no Saint Benedict centers in that batch? So the Saint Benedict center has ninety one cold drew tickets and only three of them that were paid paid forward made it into the final hopper ninety one. Now Java joy by contrast had nine ten had ten and one of them made it in and hawks for the cause only had two. Mr. Mundy donated his ticket to the hogs for the cause I have headphones on his very difficult to me for me to gauge my voice made his O'Connell. So I'm doing the best that I can wanna welcome. If you're watching on YouTube, this is the third annual golden ticket sweepstakes. And, and just about forty minutes at about forty five past we're going to pull the winners out of this box here out of this little hopper. I'm gonna give it a spin and and Kayla. I'm sorry Beck is gonna pull one and then I'm going to close it spend it again. So the antecedent patient builds, and then we'll pull two and then three and then for, and that's the grand prize. So as this as this continues on here, the let the suspense build, so we have twenty. I five now Stephen GM REEs has four shots at winning four shots at winning. The Saint Benedict center has three somebody else has to Jerry. So me a has to write Java joy, as one hogs for the cause has one. Oh. One, one tried to escape there. Okay. You getting all this. Okay. So you people saw that I put who Stephen GM has for. I'm just gonna keep spending this thing just because it came. So by the end of this hour here. We'll have those winters in the house. Now, I did have a small BG's mentally that I was going to. Go ahead and play just a small one just because we have some things to do here. Shadow. Still still. Gave you. Away. Right. I said, I had a small small medley. Mike church show here on the crusade channel last live radio, sticks standing. In the final ticket numbers getting officially registered. If you hurt your number called earlier. You're on deck thirty minutes. By the way, our chat room is at my church dot com forward slash chat all invited to attend. We head over fifty watching on YouTube last hour. My interviews with with with Java joy people. And with Doug dog Mr. Colonel the Friday here. Excitement building Medicare, wait you wins this car? If you're wondering you going like I thought you guys talk radio. Why am I hearing, the bts, because it's tradition caused by that woman sitting over there, because she complained because I played one BG song on Friday, and I told her if you plan again, I'm gonna play five song. I'll play a whole medley of you. Depended started from there. Right. We just kind of segue through BG's. I don't have my entire collection here with me. Don't worry. I have forty some odd. I just don't have all the rarities stuff that I have here. Vizo karnal. But don't worry, I have shadow dancing for you. So. Stan show. Shy. Without. So it is O'Connell actually confessed to many of the day that she actually likes shadow dancing, because our mother made it listener to mater, listen, which use charon's so for you minutes, O'Connell shadow Dan's. I was juicing your. I was telling you know. Tweeting. Spared. You wanna get into some of the bts action here, your first chance ever to be an Admira instead of Haider act. Maggie singing. Could be. Shadow bands at somebody put me chat room of etiquette singing, shadow dancing. Why are the Bee Gees BT's because the only ones they could do that. Children. Everyday. Jay. John. He says, stuck into picture, you see. We said she's the truth. Every. Deep down to say me. Way. Mentally be with us. Something live here. Nineteen seventy five LA forum. Time. Lecture show. Here are Friday afternoon tradition are bts brothers gift super medley. Keeping the best. Say pop music ever performed a live for new generation it onto you move Archer. Bye. One more from main course here. Gets. So. The PC. Hey. You would know what to do. And. Brisk in cold places. The best song ever written Schubert may have something to say about that. All right. So who is my, my buddy here that moved into my, my TV show? Who, who are you? What's your name? What's that Ethan? So now I can't drag couldn't we couldn't keep him quiet while while ago? Now I can't get a word out or even sit right there. And. Just keep doing what you're doing it. It's better to. Oh, it's noisy. Okay. Good. Good. If you if you spend too much see that lady over there. She gets really agitated. She'll come over here and take her belt off and just start wailing on you. So I'm trying to save your kid, believe me. Oh. Hey, by the way, Jeff, can you get a shot of, of kind of our, our setup here of how the crusade channel rules? We don't go anywhere without Our Lady. And we'll do anything I don't do anything without invoking our lady's, divine intercession. We began the day me and Richard and Jeff and Maggie with three hail Marys, Gloria and a memory prayer. And we prayed for our ladies intercession, and that, who who ultimately drives away with this car figuratively, speaking, someone that truly needs it, and I think based on who we have in a hopper. It's amazing. But we have three of the five charities that were the R S T L in and ease that you could select from the crusade, Chan, I'm sorry have Mike dot com forward slash shop. Of the of the charities in the nonprofits that, that were our preferences. They didn't have to be yours because I believe we counted somewhere over thirty different charities, including a couple of churches, a couple of priests a couple of different monasteries where had had tickets purchased for them. There are couple of individuals who are in need that had tickets purchased for them. But just to, to, to reiterate going into the final round. Now, there are twenty five tickets in this thing right here. Twenty-five. Okay. Four are gonna come outta here. One at a time. Fourth is fourth prize is a two hundred dollar shopping spree and founders trading post if you only bought one ticket, you're one hundred bucks a head of the game. Or have you one a ticket on air your two hundred bucks ahead of the game? Second runner up is one percent of the net. So that's all the tickets. We sold less our expenses modest expenses somewhere between four and five hundred bucks. First runner up two percent of the net. So again, double, the, the, the one percent, somebody's going to get a check for about a grand about a thousand dollars. And of course, the grand prize is going to be that beautiful shining silver, gray two thousand and nineteen Kia soul. That is going to be awarded till one of the twenty-five tickets in this hopper right here. So we're going to pull the ticket at two forty PM eastern standard time, so that one forty central that would be eleven forty on the left coast. I don't think we have anyone in the left coast. So in the Pacific time, I think we're all good. Ms O'Connell, if you would hate me that list again. I just wanna call names out. You can also gather and chat and talk about all this. We have fifty two people in the chatroom right now bears. Tell me we are over fifty watching on YouTube live. Okay, they're worth it. He goes down in fluctuates. Okay. You stop fluctuating stopped your fluctuate. Atan. Here are the names, if you if I call your name. I hope you're listening, Richard Begum. I r- Dan Mundi sit right here. So I know he's listening Gerald Somalia, brother. Andre marie. System Maria Philomina. I don't know how I and actually why actually I can't communicate but since I'm using my phone as Hugo. I can't communicate Saint Benedict center. You're on deck, William Harris, you're on deck. Stephen GM are isse. You're on deck four times. You'll want to center that, that camera shot. I just looked at what she has over there the dudes barely even in it. Not that I need to be. But what do center with this? That's right. Keep that in there. Greg restore we just pulled his name Steven MAURICE again. Anthony, hop lock Matthew Adams and Java joy or it's Java. Joy kids were here early. I say kids, young people from the north west regional novel start at the beginning, John canal. Stephen g marines twice a knee. Anna Dale, sorry, annadale and Theresa transom. Again southwest regional Stephen g Saint Benedict center again. Peter care or care, one ticket, and in one ticket and op or Kevin Gannon and Christopher Williams, and finally, the midwest bracket, Gerald. So may Greg Taylor the Saint Benedict center, again, miles Hendrix. Dan Pearson now as the contest rules, go. We'd ever really provided for third. Fourth third second first. So because we have multiple tickets on here, and we have multiple people have multiple shot of winning. I guess what will happen is, we'll have to pull a couple of extras. So if someone were to win third, and I obviously they would only get I in third, we'd go back in. So we'll pull another one to take the place. Okay. Miniature should making goes along. Yeah, I am. So what get over it. Up just kidding just messing with Schaefer, 'cause I know t- Katie, maybe you know that's coming Barrett. Right. No. Yeah. You know, you know what's coming? So I actually did kind of think about this about contest rules and any of them, congratulations to all the twenty five finalists. It's an exciting day Schafer's drug contest. K. D C. Why don't people what? I. All the contestants are good ones says Santa rela in the chat room. Mike church dot com forward slash chat. So in the time that we have put your a you're headset on their Ricardo. Barry. Let's do a little cross talk here now Connell. Are you in contact with Yakub at a studio, so that he knows that when we pull a winter, you're going to give him a telephone number to call and he is going to call that person and try and rouse them? Now it's brother. Andre marie. again. I can't call them at the same Benedict center but I don't have the number. But we can't get them on Skype. I hope so that'd be about as close as we can get on that. Course. Java joy who paid to Java joy ticket forward. Okay. Kevin clever show I think you're on six. You're on that one. Yes, you are. Yes. Okay. It is very low. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Everyone when excited to be win. The Twitter mob came after me appropriate and our show here today or the opinion, part of this, since we're out on social media today, and we're ruling Ube thousands upon thousands of us today. If you don't know father, Kevin Kuske is this non event occurred. The other day again I was talking earlier about how far we've fallen as a civilization. You can't get much further than Scapula's. Kavulich scapula clavicle gate. Okay. Because the woman, we're showing scap ler and the clavicle, and some of them ended at the church, winter, the priest and said, hey father. Hey, Padre could you know, could you talk to the floozy and ask her. Okay. I'm exaggerating a little bit kachuck to the flap. Oh, please in the back could you stop bringing drinks up, could you could you? Please tell mitt is could you, please tell mid is mcgillicuddy that there's no stripper pole in the back of the church. And she stops out cigarettes between each right win a collection. Blake comes around stop trying to collect cigarettes guys. Okay, could you please tell MRs mcgillicuddy to cover her scapula, enter clavicle bones up at mass now here's the interesting thing. The chain of, of events actually happened in a very non scandalous, correct manner. The men in the parish that were being scandalised by this half dressed woman win to their priests, which they should've done scandalizing her store, and a gossip Lynch, and Facebook post you something on, right? Because that's what some people could push Facebook commit you fees book, winter, their precent said, hey father. It's really distracting. Can you know, maybe you say something to her, and so he did? There's a catch here, though. All other cusak. Did is related the story. He's not the one distorted scapula clavicle gate, Stephanie nNcholas our friend from one Peter five and she's been a guest here on the Mike Churchill. When other shows Stephanie Nikko said, I never thought I see the day where I be writing about a shoulder in exposed shoulder apocalypse at that point. It's absolutely just went out of hand, and so two days after father cues, it goes on Twitter imposed this story and said, hey, ladies, you know, when you come into mass can modesty be on your mind. It distracts the guys anytime we're all do we tell you, it's distracting striking for all the wrong reasons, who K? If you could your is your mind, you business, what does she sitting? Right in front of me. You want to put my head in the pew actually trying to look at the bus. It's Ackerman when the priests doing the elevations here at all I see is naked shoulder. I think this is the fact that this is the controversies what shocking here and what happens next is even more shocking. So on Tuesday father cutic- recused himself from Twitter and a segment of the Mike church show is produced by Twitter one mistake, and we'll kill you. Just one father Kuzyk Twitter has dark demonic side raging against God, and the church that brood of vipers and brain, bloodthirsty, hounds, lurking readiness was visited upon me. We're near nearly unrelenting fury and incredible magnitude last week wave after way of calumnious blasphemous and obscene memes gifts and messages riposted with comments likes and reach wheats ranging up to the tens of thousand expose shoulder blades priests Ashra for modesty Twitter, verse social media world, totally melts down and tries to do Thomas called perform, a high tech lynching of a holy Roman Catholic priest, one of the good ones, actually. Those who styled themselves, my enemies, how do you become an enemy? Of a priest that hasn't broken the law, understand the enemy of, of a Pat arrest. I. That hold him in the highest esteem. I agree with you. Priest stepped stepdaughter line doing any sort of a improper impr-, or, or illegal abominable, thing, like that, of course. Yeah. I see that ask you for modesty, and he actually asked again, he related the story in need and actually do it. Okay. Many cold for me to delete my account when they weren't wishing him more horrible. Fate upon me. Blue checkmark accounts were nearly two hundred thousand followers piled on, are you listening? Soledad O'Brien this is for you. Sweetheart, the, the vibration, descendant descended, even to the grave calumny of accusing me of pedophilia. Yes, there, go to move at this point. It's ridiculous because you're just another pedophile priests obsessed over shoulders. Your was your own woman was shoulders, by the way. Scapula clavicle gate was growing woman. The silliness included mocking might appearance and my Twitter handle. Self-described which stated, she put a Hex or curse on me. I saw that one too, when my account disappeared on Wednesday. June fifth many wondered if Twitter at band, because he did make one mistake, which was not the case. I was informed the previous evening that some of my account features would be limited for roughly twelve hours that was not a factor in my decision after prayer, and discernment to choose the high road as a Catholic Christian and a priest deactivating my count eliminated. What had become the fulcrum fulcrum for the demonic waves of rage targeting the faith? They see the whole time. They didn't really care about fath cusak. What they cared about was trying to destroy the faith trying to convince anyone that they could that this was just a typical pedophile. Whacko priests. Of course, he was a sailing female parisioners and asking them to dress, modestly. Oh. On believable. So he did the right thing. Yep. So he can't ever accused himself from social, so that there won't be any question whatsoever as to whether or not this man can actually be anyone can use follow cutic- and his request from honesty. As a reason to go on social media, bash church. Now, I gotta say, I don't know what the faithfuls reaction was, I know minister Magyar O'Connell was one of the first to break the story, if you're listening to the crusade crusade channel, you knew the story on Monday afternoon because I covered it. Okay. We broke the news. You have to wait for life site news, or anyone else to write something up because that's what we do here on this channel as it comes in the priests, and other people that we follow, we're always looking for the latest story to keep you our listener in the loop. So let's continue with father. The good of the church and the needs of the faithful must always come first, in particular, for a priest in the final analysis, Twitter ain't all that. Would you say, yeah, it's not real life. There's not really any percent of the population. It was entirely my own decision deactivate, and I was not compelled by anyone else. Anyway, Twitter can be very superficial at that may be strength headlines. Picks can be reviewed rapidly for fishing, catching up on the news likes and re tweets become a form of affirmation. Their lack also do the call at affect our moods adversely Twitter can also be problematic for the same reason. Rapid consumption of large volumes of data does not lend itself to reason discussion of sensitive subject, g you think and never would have guessed and also the people on there already have the their opinion. There's not you're not going to change anybody's nine in one hundred forty characters they're trying to. Reinforce up to two hundred sixty four now. Two hundred sixty four shots. It make it a statement there, buddy. I, I must be behind on my twittering, so father QC than says, hi there. The headline. Window Twitter mob came after me. So what was the tweet all about? I talked on a subject uncomfortable for many modesty of dress for mass and my intention was to address only that the decorum proper praying together in the liturgy, however, regardless of my intentions, otherwise. The tweet was taken to imply that I was placing the blame on women for men who cannot control themselves, or tally, telling them how to dress in general. I do I do not do either and never have nothing could be further from the truth. The fortunate turn of phrase in which in which, I implied that men's chastity needed to be defended was written with the best of intentions in no way that I mean to say that men are not responsible for or capable of self control. They are so capable and everything possibly possible should be done to avoid implying. Otherwise in the church, we have our own tragic history of failure to intervene, and prevent crimes against the young and women. We must strive to ensure a consistent witness to the need to better. Protect individuals of all ages. Specially children from sexual predator predators. G doesn't sound like a pet asked to me, not at all. I always hope this goes without saying, but I am afraid we may not be there yet. Men and women. Both must exercise self construct control. Role and respect in their mutual relations. Context is important that was lacking. I'm reading you from the when the Twitter mob came from me from father, Kevin in Cusack again. Clavicle scapula gate. Describe. I describe my parish situation best, the women at our traditional Latin mass had their own dress code, which they have corporately decided upon for themselves without any direction from me now. Ms O'Connell bear witness. I know you can you go you go to TM you really. I thought you had there's not L M here. Now how far you from Athens? Okay. So you're sounds you almost a Florida. Right. Okay. So you know not within driving distance what? Do you have a dress code? I wish we did. Okay, so I know you're struggling with the conversion to TM even you only live like two and a half par sex from mater. Dei piracy, one of the best S P, one of the oldest one is too, but you're. Story. You were telling about the message today with your wife made a bum rush for the door and went so fast past the priest. It was like the flash telephone poles, bend that he almost bent as you almost knocked him over from the force of her wake. She. She's like Richard. We have to get out of here that was barely amass. Yes, she my wife, I never seen. I was smiling from ear as she was just in infuriate cargo shirt pants. I don't even wanna get into it. But he before his homily, he started out with this chant where he said, God is good. And they all responded, and then he said, God is great, and they all responded that again, and my wife was like no but he it anyway, he, he may he did that and my wife literally jumped at it. So the only thing missing from this homily folks was. Jagai. It was close. I was close. I think I think that was this week he. Leroy Jenkins moments almost like, hey, why don't you leave mash to there was a LeRoy Jenkins moment bigger, some kid gamer? No, it wasn't a kid. It was a gamer daycare, once they went. They shot up the sparkle we need to go. Turn into a white a white shark. Go whitesnake concert. I said, I preferred the dress code that way it largely involves having shoulders covered, and exactly the same manner as expected for visitors to Saint Peter's basilica and other religious monuments around the world. However, what new folks. When new folks started tuning our mass, they might be working out out of a different mindset. I tell you that, that minister in vouch for this. We're in about three weeks ago at Saint Jane and Obata springs and a woman came in with four kids. She was who she momma, did you like whoa. She had the stretch pants uh, and they were very tight. She had a, it could have been clavicle scapula gate at our church. But by by by the time they who. Buddha. Buddha gate, but it could have been booty gay could have been by the time. Ms O'Connell, stop with the descriptions. Cottle. You're scaring the children plays. So by the time they Curie was done singing, and the glorious started. They. As soon as father, Laurie all next Chelsea. Oh, they looked around where I think she is crab, one of the kids by the hair and out the door the other. The center is to make a beeline for the door is they could so back to follow accusing I posted on Monday, June third. And by that evening, swarm, already gathering, even sadly, Catholics on Twitter, use the situation to draw attention to themselves with mocking jokes about shoulders causing distraction during prayer. One priest posted a pic of gingerbread cookie sporting a bikini and asked this bother you because she has shoulders or because Simone areas made it these divisive jumps into the fray, only attract charges enemies. They see what's happening here folks, and basically Pappa for answers, and all the rest of war on tradition has just now seeped out into general into general public to where anyone does other acoustic did dude, you're open. You're just a sitting duck or because there's no conform. Adi. It gives licensed any, any idea where will you can't do this. Well, the pope says it's fine because he doesn't like it. So I'm in. I'm in agreement with the Holy Father. So you're the bad one and it just that's civil war that's happening right now. At least on the social need confused. Civil war between iron man captain America. Well, I mean at least at this point, which one is which I think, captain America would be more the tradition. So this isn't a marvel cinematic Latin mass universe civil world. MCTL T L, you, hey, we can bring the, the we can bring Vanna white in here and begin our process here to get to the car. I know what you've all been waiting for. So let me conclude or follow accused even sadly, Catholics on Twitter, okay? Toy Story about the seminaries making gingerbread cookie, which brings me to another less. Terry as- aspect of Twitter Twitter, you make a mistake. We'll, we'll kill you. We are not converting those who agree with us. But we can be holding the faith up to ridicule. When Catholics themselves try to ring a joke out of the most sacred thing. I look this guy this priest spot on I wish I knew father 'cause. 'cause and Jake his hand give them a little, you know, little say, do father with I'm sorry. Sorry you had to endure that we'll pray for it is shame because he was always putting out. So it's great stuff used proper. Did he did? At the same time, I had been most edify by the many faithful Catholics on Twitter who beautifully and lovingly express, faith, and invite others, all's to, to also experience our covenant love in Christ. Will the demons how victory will they be lift unsated as they prowl around to devour more victims? Probably. So. But we who share the faith know that this is merely a minor battle, and a great war in which are triumphant Lord has already secured the greatest victory over sin and death. We always have much more effective means at our disposal for disseminating the faith converting, and saving souls, than an internet platform controlled by declared enemies of Christ. And of course, I'm showing my only rosary which I pulled out of my pocket which I had not only have this Tim Williams knows the end of this store. So does Monday. What do I have my right pocket a backup? Just. Just in case this fails, I got a backup. Fathers and fathers conclusion and folic have accused conclusion, I think is, and I like the way into this class class act all the way great Representative for the faith into faithful priests should act. Yeah, we'll do Twitter storm rage on, unfortunately, the next target of the Twitter, Ma maybe even now, pressing the send button, which which will unwittingly bring them out and militias force in hours of the account. Good people were coming forward as reinforcements in, in numbers that swelter nearly twenty seven thousand followers. I received many more emails of support than otherwise, since sear, thanks to all of you, please pray for me as I do you father, Kevin, m cusak. That's exactly the response, you would expect a priest. Exactly. Read the story at the wanderer press dot com. Okay. The moment we have all been waiting for. I just saw it is kinda throw our hands up in the air as if something are you ready because? All right. Miss courson. Back the way to go work. Dotto the trumpet fanfare here. So you'll do one at a time and then spent one and then spent okay here we go. For two hundred dollar gift certificate founders trading post. Oh, wait a minute party. Foul party. Got to put that back in. Some people have been watching you guys seated, okay? Here we go. Stephen GM Reese in fourth place or as okay? Hang on. So the okay, it is ticking number Kim's in one seven six, you wanna verify that, okay? Here we go. This is for cash money. Big money, big money. Big got another party fell start over again. K. So this is for one percent of the, the net of the contests here. We got one stuck data. Go. Third place Kevin Gannon, Kevin Gannon third place, second runner up. Okay. First runner up coming down to the wire hair. Okay. Oh you go. First runner up Gerald, some EA ticket, number one, seven one and now the drum roll, please. Here we go. I got one stuck to the door again. Okay. Here we go. The winner of the two thousand nineteen shining silver, Kia. Soul is taken number three seven zero Peter care. There it is. Mr Kerr Medicare David Simpson of yeller listening back home in Louisiana. There is the ticket winner. You know what we can actually drive the car back to him. Congratulations to Peter care of, of beat is he Madisonville repeat springs? Oh, he's in Folsom. Congratulations to Peter care of Folsom, Louisiana. The two thousand and nineteen golden truth ticket sweepstakes winner with ticket number that ended in three seven zero. Can you verify that mid mid Izzo comedy before we get a little too far to see if we can get Medicare on the phone? He'd go. Ethan, right. Okay. Take that to heart. Ethan. Thank you. So no. This part, but Mr. Barikot comes it down. Now. Mr. Colonel is the best part about this is my friends, so I can always hear it rag. It's read the, the conspiracy calls already beginning, he Jeff Schafer's revolting last week. He heard me wine in about the galactic tickets CEO. So we go all right? Mike minute art. He calls me miniature. He all right miniature, I went and I bought a ticket. I'm just my in one. And that's what are you gonna do the car? If you went Pete, and he, he pointed at his his jalopy that he's driving around. He goes. Replace the jalopy. So he one ticket. Ticket right now. You know, you know, it's happened at the care house. What's happening to carry house right now with the hunger games for car? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, the kids are lining up. Are you kidding me a? We trying to get Medicare on the on the phone. We'll, we'll try to give him a call book. Congratulations to the fourth third runner-up Sanger runner up, and first runner up a charity did not win. The saints Benedict center, we hadn't ninety one chances out of six hundred and twenty two. And just. Didn't pull the trigger now. Well, at least they got into the finals. I see that we have a call on hold is that Medicare? Okay. Well, he's trying. I guess he's trying to we're trying to call it winter. We're trying to get touch base with them right now. So if we can, then we'll then we'll, we'll give them a call. And we'll see what he's going. What he's going to do with the call with the car. Okay. So it's two thousand eighteen Kia soul one by Peter care. And again just the most just concludes here. I mean of all the people it had to be the one that said you know what I'm just going to do. It's like the guy wins the lottery said I don't ever play the lottery except today. I just decided to get a quick pick and then they went three hundred million dollars. That's the guy that's like, yeah I'm not gonna I'll buy one just to help you out. And yes, he's gonna get a brand new twenty nineteen Kia soul because of it. Well, I if any of the curious because there's, there's ten kids, and they're the youngest is thirteen or so, so and they all they're all listeners. I mean they all listen. Almost every day, I if any of the cares are listening, we'd be, we'd be delighted to hear so that concludes the two thousand in nineteen golden truth ticket. Sweepstakes, where again, thanks to a last minute. Rush uh on the last three days went from three hundred and forty some tickets like disaster on Monday to six hundred into at about midnight last night with the last ten ten tickets that were that were purchased or twelve after the after the fact. So MS o'connell's laugh, and what's so funny. We'll take a daughter. Which daughter Lucy is Lucy on the phone. We had the numbers the mid his O'Connell is in touch with with some of the kids, you can get in touch with mid is care, although I can't imagine that Medicare would. She's modest, shall we say, so. I can't imagine amid a scare so congratulations to Peter care of Folsom, Louisiana. We have someone on hold. Someone is on hold Jacobs down that somebody's Jacob. So who do we have here on the Mike church show on their crusade channel last live radio station standard, which care do I had the pleasure speaking with? This is who. It's Peter connection's bad, though, Peter you there. Yeah. To can you believe that you're, you're a one ticket and you're one dick? It is the winner, do you want me to drive the car home for you? Can't believe it. We can't believe it. Nobody could believe it. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. So, so it was it was, it was funny because I even asked you after mass on Sunday, I said, so do what are you gonna do? Do with with the carve you went anywhere. I think I'm just gonna drive it. Should so. So is there a competition now going on or the care girls are or Lucy and Theresa and as Yana are they are they doing they, they can see who's going to get the car? You know it was funny because that was just yesterday. I was putting liquid panic the cost the girls. Get a school. So well. I tell you what I I, I didn't dream it either. Certainly odds wise weren't in favor which you know what? Peter, it just goes, it just proof of when I say, what we what you and I both said during the entire David Simpson's during the tire count folks, there's only going to be one ticket pulled out of that after and might as well be yours. So in two thousand and nineteen brother care, it's you up. So. Thanks. My. Thanks for everything. You do. You know. Love to work going on better tops. And you know, we're glad to do we of support it. And then when, when the car is awesome. All right. Brother will. We're all excited here for you. There's, there's nothing but smiles all around the table. And my phone is probably burning up right now. When David with David, and your brother sending me messages and going late, you know. All right Medicare. Well, we will see it mass on Sunday. What's that? I'll never hear the end of it. I'm sure you'll never hear the end of what you can drive away from it. No now in your brain or twenty nineteen years old. So they can they can all just. We'll we'll see past day. God bless you. We love you, brother. Okay, graduations. Okay. All right. We'll put your bag on hold Jacob. Just just we don't really need his info. So we have everything, so folks. You know what they're doing into chat room. They're asking. Bob Barker play playing. Bob Barker memes. Have your pet spayed or neutered. Makes you control the pet population have your pet spayed or neutered. So that is going to wrap it up here for us. I wanna thank mister Monday for coming and for all the support and for all the, the tickets and, and, and support that he has this month is, is has been a Monday month, y'all know but Mr Monti hosted our wine and cheese after party mono- being a during party actually poll started popping bottles. Yeah. Yeah. Live in the clock games, okay? Yeah. Which says we hit the scotch at eleven. It was over three minute. Forty five second next big you ought to see ladies and gentlemen, slave-driver all k three minut- thirty six. I'm like, dude, you don't have to do it every fifteen seconds. So wanna be behind the phone, put them behind might, so Mr. Monday donated the, the wine and cheese. All New Jersey and all New Jersey made homemade cheese and the Mundy farm sauces to. We gotta find a way to mass produce that stuff what kind of mass produce? I mean look, it's not an imagined burger. Pies impossible burger, but it was a pretty close. Second. What do they missed Jeff Corson who, by the by was first ticket purchaser this year? No winner. No winter. You were the first one to buy tickets. He bought ten by the way. And he donated all of them to the Saint Benedict center. So his was ten of the ninety one and the one that made it in there. One of them one of Tim, Tim Williams coming all the way from South Carolina, Tim, you at Charleston Florence close. Second. No. Have you had a Bill Murray, citing? Okay. All right. Lots of Bill Mercedes Charleston DOE. Critically. Crazy, ladies and okay. Well, we'll hear all about it. Ethan. We leave my mouth alone. We have what they Jeff. I think I'm gonna Richard for coming all the way from Fort Worth. Absolutely doing. You broadcast here. It's win swimming success that they wanna thank all of you for watching on YouTube, and I want to invite you to the crusade channel tonight for creature feature and for our twenty four hours a day, seven day week programming all original except for the radio dramas. We produce everything all of the imaging, and all the channel ideas and everything that you hear all produced in house by us for you. We would like to have you, as a regular listener at crusade channel dot com today. Sign up for thirty days, free, don't cost nothing and I hope and pray that we made a good enough showing for you today to earn us a shot at you at being your radio station. Download our free app. It's free in the Google play. Rye tuna store. Search for crusade channel radio. If you want to be a super listener, right? Out, the Matt. Download the content hep crusade channel content. All that. Is there? Folks, it's been a great day. One of the thing that has Maggie O'Connell for keeping all the books Jacob for. Doing what Jacob does for doing what Jacob does of horn into four down again, congratulations to all of our winters and our grand prize winner from teeny weeny lane. It's seriously, teeny weeny lane in Folsom, Louisiana missed. Peter care may God bless all of you in Mary, Keefe you.

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The Legend of Nalayini

Myths, Legends, and Fairytales of India

18:57 min | 1 year ago

The Legend of Nalayini

"At farmers insurance we know every windshield collision has a unique sound beetle burt boop drone seen it covered it click for more are <music> under my arms truck fire insurance exchanges and affiliates products available in every state retains india where we bring to us stories of kings and queens princess and and these are classic teams of invention magic jorma hormones from india brought to you in a new of dod the rightist none raja how beautiful daughter nellie she being the doctor nanna was of great integrity and vistim. She knew all the arts that existed in this world when she became old enough to get married. Nona started looking for the perfect match bucknell any had condition she said to her father that she would marry only that man who had the <unk> to defeat her by answering questions the beauty investment of laney's spread like wildfire soon. There came a prince from malaysia. His name was montana she could have he exhibited his wish to marry. Nolini nahla asked him to go admit mullany at palace montana shaker followed the deductions andrews. The door of the invasion mullany was sitting he opened the door and was surprised by seeing her beauty she was sitting amid means like a golden statue. Amidst thousands of lamps in montana approached her melanie likely asked him to be seated and then asked the following question. How can a man rise in his life. Martinez crashed his head and replied well climbing. The tree is a very good solution russian. Of course he was rejected in saint back after his departure. Molina's means asked her the answer she said when in mind becomes you're a man rises then came another prince now lanee asked him what what is the cause of sadness the prince could have done. Melanie rejected him politely answer to hummingbirds as photos. Fatima is the root cause of sadness. Whatever wrong deeds do way beat afflicted upon us as problems problems many princess game and win but not good answer the questions of the wisdom possessed by malini was pleased released worldwide even not muhata she heard about it he went straightaway to the davis above indra and spoke about a greatness and of a victim and integrity a great sage who practice celibacy for twenty one jenas malcolm hershey heard i heard this he challenged that he would defeat delaney and prove that integrity is worthless so with the the aim of defeating her makali'i went to molest ballas disguising himself as a very very old sage. He expressed his fish of married. Malini non-allies adjust rueda allowed him to meet mullany but he never taught that his daughter would marry such an old fellow fellow why entering into laney's he changed his home into a handsome young man nullity was unmoved by his as beauty quested him to sit down and asked how can be attained happiness malcolm replied by controlling rolling our desires when that was the perfect on nulla needed moved her diamond ring and gave it to him and and she asked him to show it to her father as a sign of acceptance line existing room malka transformed himself love the old sage he bent annella and showed him the ring. Nah was shot. How can my daughter mattie such an old fellow. He got suspicious and summoned malini. Malini saw the osage and realized that it was he who had met her in the form of a young man now late late knee as a woman of great character did change her words. She said yes to her father. The next thing malcolm said that he wishes to go to the forest us to perform the now. I need wholeheartedly accepted makali'i desire. They both reach the dense forest. Makali'i asked melanie to build a hut. Now i need constructed. The hot witted minhaj. They both entered it as it was early. I was of the night they bought. It lies down and started sleeping at midnight. Makalu shouted a mullany. Yes swamy. She applied. I'm very hungry. Bring me some food. Makali'i nominee ran out to the forest quickly brought a basket full of fruits <unk> was shot. He wondered with another. Amy was a woman or a ghost. The next morning malka got up. Khalid went to take a bath in a nearby bond. Let dinner dental evening. Melanie waited for him without eating anything suddenly a a young and handsome hunt decking. He said that malcolm was killed by a tiger. Nullah near refused to believe this. She was confident that the <unk> daiga did not give such a bit <unk> g._d._p. As her husband suddenly the hunter jumped forward and tried to grab her and shouted beauty. You won't mind dump to me now any started running from there after run for a long time and suffering from great injuries. She turned back and looked at him furiously. Let your hands and legs get satellites. She cost him the next moment she had great cries malini own aleni of course it was small cavalier who had come as the konta nolini ran towards him lifted him and took him home. Makali'i was trying trying to test the chastity of mullany nulla new fed him with food and made him sleep the next day malcolm said to aleni amy that before their marriage he used to go to sacred rivers in offer players but now he could not do that as his legs paralyzed. Nullah needs suddenly made a huge basket using bamboo sticks and filled it with sick club. She lifted malka and placed him on the basket. She thanked the basket on her head and started walking to us the near the sacred shiva but makali'i started pestering uncall- when sunlight fell on him he ordered her to walk in the shape and when she walked in the shade he shouted that the branches just disturbing his view when she walked fast he complained that his body was shaking and when she walked slowly he shouted they won't reach their destination yuga but malini dominated everything. Finally they entered the village they crossing crossing the street of the nazis all the women they're asked mullany if she was mad to marry such an old man suddenly a woman in god but now give running dudes malini and cleaned her feed by rubbing her forehead on them but ma was amazed to see me in his dedication towards her husband. Makali'i was sitting analysis head looked batma. Suddenly an idea came to his mind. He thought i failed to prove delaney's. Integrity is wrong inspired to these many deaths. Let me try one more. What time using this ma moncada asked me need to stop there and construct a hut. They both went inside inside mall khania mild acknowle. She was surprised at this moment. She had never seen her husband's mine. Usually when she stood makali'i would shout ieuan bella sit down here and when she said he would skull when she kept quiet here with us. Are you made of wood given up sm- i and when she smiled he would ask. Why are you smiling smiling. This was life and when mal collier smiled turn. She was very happy however her joy didn't last as long makali'i asked malini my dear now laney. Can i ask you something of course swami me. Neither applied yesterday why people crossing the tussey street a good game and clean defeat right. Yes yes yes suomi she'd applied. I want to marry her. Mullany was shot but accepted early morning next day. <music> malini went to batman house andrew beautiful drug only in front of her house. This lasted for days but i wanted to know who's doing. Was this the next day but ma woke up very early and waited. She saw john malini coming towards at home and at once started running towards her. She asked melanie opioid stuff women. Why why are you doing this. Mullany told her about her husband's desire but my ass all mother your husband must be matt to leave you at madison knew euclid statue made of gold and i look like a decaying fruit can you can you not ask collini but multiplied that if mcaleer marries her she would never leave him and would always be with him now. Lanee accepted accepted. She went back to the hut malkov pasta with the sweetest floods whether she had explained his desire to padma not a knee said that yes and agreed to carry him to mass home that night night game at laney carrie mccullogh to patmos home he bet on the aleni to wait outside when nellie knee went outside her house but mark came running to melt color and stretched her hands to hug him. Don't touch me. If you touch me you will be done to ashes as i haven't touched any a woman even in my mind twenty one jeddah's but that lady told me that he wanted to marry me but my us. I made her say okay so i thought she would bust in anger when i ask such thing but she did not the woman who is standing outside is not just a mere woman one of the of the goddess of beauty. I just wanted to delete her dedication to her husband. I consider you as my doctor. Dr asked me anyone that you want. She'd applied swami at least in my next book. I should be one in a very very good community. I should be sister for mad. The would worships. I should be the wife of the bravest warrior i should be. The mother of the most most daring fighter lease cracks me all these boons swami. She asked him malka. Leah accepted an entire next bud bud bud ma was born as bad as the sister of shri krishna she matted <unk> and gave but to be menu ludlow went inside and then makali'i shouted hey melanie and their came delaney within seconds he adores <unk> even touch him mullany lifted him get him on ahead and walked back towards they on the previous day a group of thieves. I had dropped the palace of the fula. They've spotted by the royal soulages and they started chasing them. When the thieves realized that they would be got soon they decide to hide inside the hat that they saw nearby. That was the of today mondavi mahato she they they get all the drills near the entrance and hid inside the hut. The chancellor just got them. Unfortunately monday also also suspected in an estimate then neighbor all take into the ruler scored. The royal soldiers said that mandeville was the head of the mob and others his followers. The order to imprison all others except mandeville he offered to hit nails on mondays gesture chest hack him upside down for the whole day at the center of the village was walking to that way where mandeville was hung upside down. She unknowingly hit mandeville with a basket mondovi being so hot gust not let me that her husband would die why when the sun rises now. I need got furious. She couldn't digest the fact that mandeville gust her husband for her stay. She sect amanda via. Hey maharishi you said that if the sun rises your husband dies if it is true that i have loved my husband to the greatest extent let the sun knocked dries. Yes the sun never rose. All living organisms stopped adopted to suffer the two is approached her and asked him to take back the she said that if she did so she would lose her husband. She asked him to wait outside her hat. As she was going to perform back to her husband. They all went and brought brought manda via to her home. Mondavi beg for forgiveness. He said that he never knew of elaine's greatness. He blessed her that she would live happily in this world for many years without husband and children at that moment now i need took the water used to wash shaw has been speed and sprinkle it on the ground and said let the sun dries on the two movies blessed her vanished after living having this would for so many years montpellier fell of going back to in the locker and at once he was there but nulla any was not satisfied aside. She wanted to live with her husband for some more time so she started rigorous. Pendants lard shiva appeared before her and asked what wound she wanted. She engraved desire shouted but they he give me my husband but then they he they he i think he for five times large shiva blight as you have asked for your husband five lifetime's you would be granted with five husbands malini ascalon old father. Is this a boom or oh good lord shiva blight. Don't worry my chai h._d. Ubaid you will become with utmost beauty and yes. She was reborn as throughout the day. When adage was proposed <unk> over the story to the funders and and she was married to five in this who does that is the band as when she does ma as her husband the mangal that sorta died by panama would be a- similarly when she considered pima as her husband <unk> tied by female would appear and so on this wasn't extraordinarily sign of beauty all others including contain <unk> vazza acted as instruments <unk> boom. Thank you for listening to this awesome story from. I'm i didn't even go you can listen to many such stories in english hindi and soon in many languages to non moore was an f._d. Podcasts dot in the story daughter was nominated for berry tens of india and has been to do by stories. Now is the chance to use is reliable energy to grow your money with the dominion energy reliability investment. Our new investment product offers competitive returns. 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Fritters, Easy Annuals From Seed and a Career Building Vacation

Plantrama

26:58 min | 1 year ago

Fritters, Easy Annuals From Seed and a Career Building Vacation

"Are This is plant Rama with CEO for Nari Myself. Ellen's Akos. It's the podcast where there are no stupid questions as long as the topic is plant. Today we're talking about fritters easy annuals to grow from seed and a career building vacation today. We're going to start with fritters foraged and farmed taken away. CLL Well the recipe. That I want to talk about is for two keeney because many the people who have a vegetable garden and up with a lot of Zucchini and I'm going to talk about a fritter recipe. That is not not only using Zucchini but is a Vegan fritter recipe. Yes see to me. A further requires both eggs and cheese. So I'm real curious. Says to how you'RE GONNA make this delicious without eggs and without cheese first of all it is delicious because it uses your freshly picked Zucchini meaning which is unlike any other Zucchini in the world and has better flavor so number one you start out with very fresh Zucchini senior and you great it and you put degraded Zucchini in a dish towel and squeeze some of the excess water her out so that it's not too watery what holds this altogether then is mixing the greatest Zucchini with Flower and some olive oil and then some garlic and chives whatever herbs you want for seasoning and you mix exit altogether and now. Here's the deal. Ellen I know fritters also are traditionally fried right. Yeah and so you. You certainly can fry these the the secret of doing that issue. Form the graded Zucchini mixed with the flour and the oil into a Baugh. Aw kind of squishy into a patty and put it in the frying pan oil and fry for a few minutes on one side. Flip it over on the next. But you can't flip it too early or it'll fall apart because you don't have the exit are holding it all together now to your question about what about the cheese. Yeah I have two words for you nutritional yeast do those. We're going to be your to work. And you're making that face down face. Everybody says nutritional. Yeast is a great substitute for things like Parmesan cheese. But I just I. Can't they actually true. So are you gonNA feed me some nutritional yeast anytime soon. Because the only way. I'm going to believe this is if if I actually taste it I absolutely am and is it just like cheese of course not nothing else except cheese but does it have that a little bit of that sort of richness and added flavor. Yes it does and what I would also tell people to do is to try instead of frying these these akina freighters I would say to them to bake them what I do is I formed them into patties. Baked them on parchment sheets in the oven. That way. My house does not smell like I've just cooked up a whole batch of lot Kaz and that honestly lot because they are delicious. I've got my health that they are delicious but the smell of oil cooking can linger show. So that's my recipe the and it's going to be in the show notes on the website and I will also say and anticipating another face here but if you WanNa make gluten free you can use almond flour okay now so my. My fritter recipe is in some ways more traditional additional in that it uses eggs although it does not use cheese much as I love cheese. The thing that's not traditional about it is that it's made from two different forms of Jerusalem artichoke and foraged mushrooms. So this is a fritter that I make not with grated. Jerusalem are chop. I actually cook them up and use mashed Jerusalem artichoke so it's a smoother texture and combine them with caramelized onions for a little bit of you know more in there and then to bind it use both mushroom powder that I have made from dried foraged mushrooms shrooms and instead of regular flour. Oh my gosh. This is gluten free recipe and not even intentionally because the flower that I use to help bind it is also made from Jerusalem artichokes I d I slice them dehydrate them and then grind them up and the reason I did that was not because I was trying to be gluten free. uh-huh I wanted the flavor of the Jerusalem artichoke to be as strong as possible and not diluted with using all purpose flour. This this sounds is delicious. It also sounds very time consuming. You know it's really not but it's not because as a forager I've got all these things in my pantry when I come back from mushroom hunting I cleaned my mushrooms and then I either freeze them or I dry them. And then they're there for me to use them when I come back doc. From digging Jerusalem artichokes I washed them. I put some in the cold cellar and the rest I slice up and I dry. So I have a jar of dried Jerusalem artichokes and I realized not all of our listeners. Have that but but forager's do forager's pantries are very interesting and a wonderful place to get lost in haze sometime. Can you take a picture of your chance so that we can put that on. Yes the website. I think we should do that. Yeah I'd be happy to do that if somebody wanted to. Try doing a Jerusalem artichoke fritter but substitute their own purchased flour. They could do that with your recipes. They absolutely could and they could. They could make gluten free with the almond flour that you suggested or they could do whole wheat flour. They could you rye flour. Just be aware that whatever you use is going to add a flavor and that might be a wonderful flavor might be a really great addition. Well there we have it fritters foraged and land farmed and occasionally Vegan or gluten free. And it is the time of year ellen when I think everybody should be thinking about what am I going to plant in the growing season right and am I going going to purchase plants or am I starting this from seat. Starting something from seed is a way for you to get all kinds of plants looks of plants for less money right. Yes it is. It's a great way to have of really full abundant colorful garden for very little money. But I think there's something even more important about successfully starting from seed. I remember how I felt the first time I saw a plant in my garden that I had started from seed and I swear there's there's nothing like it. I know that sounds Corny as all. Get out but it is absolutely true when you nurture something from seed to plant the feeling Ling of satisfaction is enormous. And I think everybody should get to experience that in their lifetime I agree and the other thing is watching that process. Assess watching the little zied link. Come up whether it's in a pod indoors or outside in the garden one of the most life affirming coming experiences that we can have and we need more life affirming experiences in our lives. All of us we certainly do so. Let's let's tackle the easiest annuals to grow from seed let's start out with annual that you can probably AP successful with if you put the seeds right in the ground because there are some that you may want to start indoors or in pots or even flats outside outside just a little better control but there are some plants that they really do well sewing them right in the ground and Dan. Let's start out with those and I would like to start out with California poppies now. That's something I love and I have never grown from seed. Because because I'm kind of intimidated by the fact that the seeds are so tiny so I'd love to hear how you handle that well and I think you should grow them from seed because the pedal title Sir Edible Ellen. How can you pass this up? I am going to order me some California poppy seeds right away. And what you do. They're the easiest things in the world to grow from seed is in cool weather and in fact you can even so the seeds now in February as soon as you have them in cool weather you take the seeds and you sprinkle them out where you want them to grow and you can just sprinkle them right over the surface of the soil. They need to be on the surface of the soil. These are seeds that germinate best when they have light they also so like places with good drainage so gravelly areas. Oh that's what I was Gonna ask you because you said on top of the soil now. My whole front garden is got a gravel. Mulch can I just sprinkle them on the ground and let them. Oh yes and kill them on the gravel and then a little later in the spring once on smartvestor starts falling and the temperatures warm. A little bit you will see very tiny fern like seedlings of California poppies coming up and the great thing about California poppies is when they're happy from now on they will feed themselves. Once you have them you will have them in those locations and maybe some others every year without you ever sewing Wing another seat. So that's a great thing about California poppies. I love that idea. And of course the fact that they're edible means that I actually can plant them in my garbage so thank you very much. Co another annual that you can plant directly in the garden And that's also edible surprise. Surprise is Nester Shem and I love love For so many reasons they're gorgeous. Both the leaves and the flowers are edible. And you and I made a very tasty ministership sean cocktail last summer. If I remember correctly onus tertius are wonderful to put in just about any cocktail you can think of. I think the flavors can go so many directions Sion's but even just just putting a few flowers in the Shaker with the spirit of your choice and shake it up the color her goes in so you get that gorgeous color then you strain it all the debris out and garnish with another nasution flour It is wonderful wonderful and this is a great thing to go from California. Poppy seeds to new CERTIAN. Because we're going from very fine seeds that are almost like dust. Yes who big round seeds that get poked into the ground that you don't put on the surface right right right and that's why I like them because they're so easy to manage you know they're they're big enough so that you can plant them exactly where you want them you don't have to sprinkle them they're easy to handle with your fingers. These do not require light. In order to germinate in fact they require darkness. These are annuals that will not only grow but they will flower all summer long and into the fall and that's a nice thing. California poppies tend to flower best early in the season and then once it gets hot the kind of close up shop and take a break but not in a stir shrooms have very long bloom season and the way they spread they can they can be a great ground cover. You can train them up a trellis. It's it's a fantastic annual plant. Really brightens up the garden. Now I want to add another sprinkle sprinkle on the surface. Plant here At that really makes a good companion with Mr Cham's if you want to grow them in the same area and that's so listen you know the the just the standard lobe you'll area you can take those seeds and sprinkle them out whether it is in gravelly areas they also would do well with the California poppies or whether it's right in certain areas of your garden and they will germinate and grow and like the California poppies once they are established they will self seed from year not year so I am very happily grow Alyssum in steps that I have on my property that go down to our lake because they self seed in the cracks in those steps and come back year after year and are so pretty so nice that low the delicate white flour. I think just like bigger flowers. I like I go for the big beautiful. Bright vibrant colors like give me a heavenly thinly blue morning glory and I barely need. I don't even need anything else. And I know it's not edible but I've decided there's a section of my garden on the sides of the House. We're we're I'm allowed to plant things that I can't eat and morning glories of the very first thing I planted there because they just make me so happy they come in so many different colors. I now this is one that not only do I not direct seed but I actually plant in the little peat pots because I have found that morning. Glories can be a little bit picky about being transplanted so I will soak those seeds overnight to improve. The chances says of germination get them all saturated with water and then plant each one in a little heap pot and after we've seen a couple sets of true leaves that's when I moved them outside aside and I plant the entire pot in the ground. I suppose you could plant them in the ground but You'd have to wait a little bit longer and I like to get that head start. Do you plant your morning glories directly or I don't grow morning glories they don't they don't come into flower until late in the summer because they're triggered into flowering by decreasing hours of daylight. Give me a good Mandeville Levine. That's going to be in bloom from May until hard frost and I'm happy woman but they're not blue heavenly only blue. It's the most beautiful flag or have you can a blue spray paint fine. You may be right about them taking a longtime to come into bloom but I still had two or three solid months and that may be because my season is a little longer here. I don't know but I had the most wonderful view out my office window looking at this fence covered with morning glories for months and it did my soul good you know. I think you're right that they probably really bloom longer for you. I remember my grandmother in Colorado Springs in the mountains above Colorado Springs used to grow morning glories every year it was kind of a signature flower for her and every time. My mother saw blue morning glories. She thought of her mother. My Grandmother So I and I get the appeal of that blue flower and opening and and how the color of it in the fact that it's a vertical thing and they they they opened for a day and then they close. I do understand the magic. I was giving you a hard time but I do understand so and I and I would say this to the people you can grow a large size. Mandeville Levine and morning. Glory or a moon flower together on the same trellis. Oh Yeah and gorgeous because then you have different colors. Different Times of day. The flowers being opened. That's a lovely. Yes so you can have the best of both world. Should you want that but the Mandeville of course it's not one that you can grow from seed the morning. Glory absolutely grow from seed whether you started in in pots or in the past. When I grew them I would soak them overnight as you do and then I would put them right in the ground? The soaking I think is really key. I think so too and the same goes for Moon Flowers. If you want those big white flowers open at night. Those are related to the morning. Glory and like the morning glory. They will benefit from an overnight. Nice soaking to get that germination started. We've talked about plants that can go right into the ground and grow how about a couple that people would would find easy to start from seed in either pots indoors or six packs flats whatever however they start their seeds. What would you say is is a number one plant ellen before I say that? I want to tell people why they might want to do this. Because it sounds like it's more work and it sounds like why should I do that extra step if I can just I stick those seeds in the ground but the fact is that certain annuals need a longer amount of time before they're ready to bloom and you can get them started rated growing earlier if you start them inside before your last frost date. That's one reason why you might WanNa do it. Another reason is if you've got a really heavy heavy bird or animal population out there. Sometimes the birds will swoop down and pick up those seeds especially if they're tasty seeds like sunflower flowers needs so if you put them out as plants instead of seeds you have a better chance of success and I think it's fun with sunflowers to do both to start some Inside for that earlier bloom and then when you are planting the plants out at the same time stick seeds in the ground owned because then those will come about three or four weeks later so oh that's a great idea so you'll have different stages of bloom different sizes of the plants. I love that and I can just picture how that would look another reason that I start some plants inside Ellen is that I live in a place where our soil. It's really cold all through May and oftentimes a little into June. And I have found that if I plant zinnias seeds in May a in my area the seeds tend to just rot instead of germinate and grows and is being from Mexico they like hot Yup and so I find I have much greater success with the germination of seeds if I start them inside with things like Zinnias and the other other reason to start some plants inside is if you have a big slug or ear wig population yeah That will move in and or even bunny population. Frankly that will move in and eat those young plants when they're an inch tall or two inches tall if you get them a little bit bigger so that they're tougher and not as tender and tasty for the slugs and then of course yes you can also spray them with rabbit repellent before you put them out so those are several more reasons for starting some of these annuals inside in a condition where you can get them. You know three or four or five inches tall before you put them in the garden. Well so we've talked about California Poppies Minister Sion's Zinnias morning glories. Laurie's moon flowers sunflowers. Those are six really easy ones to to start from seed whether it's direct sewing or starting inside hide. I know there's more but I also know we're running out of time so I sneak in a word here miracle miracle miracle the what was that was it. Did you say miracle. The reason I'm I'm being so insistent even though we are running out of time is that miracles are due for a Comeback Back Ellen. They were very popular bedding plant for a number of years. They kind of went out of favor and I think think that more people should be growing them in flower gardens and vegetable gardens wherever you want to grow them they come tall medium and small and they are easy to grow from seed so check them out may also say they come in edible varieties a few of them are edible like the lemon gem the tangerine gem so you know that's where I'm headed. As far as I'm concerned miracles have never gone out of fashion because 'cause they're great plants. I agree. We are in agreement on this marigolds. Put It on your list for growing in twenty twenty and beyond are letter. This week comes from Kerry who is planning a vacation just for herself. She loves gardens. She loves plants. And as a master gardener she has recently started writing a column for her co OP Extension Office office and we have some really good ideas for you. Carry a couple of different places depending on when you're going to take your vacation that you should definitely put on your list. I first of all you go Kerry with beginning to write the newsletter and all of that and you also go about taking garden vacation because there are so many options you know Ellen and I are going to be going to the Seattle flower show. The Northwest Flower and Garden Festival is the official name. I think this is a great garden related vacation for anybody who feels the need to get away in late winter in February this flower show. Is You know one of the premier events in the country. There are learning opportunities so you as a master gardener or a just a garden enthusiast for our listeners that just love plants in gardens. This is a great place to go for educational opportunities. You learn earn just by looking at the amazing displays. The number of vendors is astonishing. And so you'll see more plant exceeds the shopping opportunities. The shopping opportunities are amazing. I mean take an extra suitcase carry because you will come back back with orchids Dahlia tubers and seed packets and labor saving devices. That you've never seen any place else. I think it's got the best marketplace of of any flowers show that I've been to so and that's coming up soon. That's at the end of this month. So you could have yourself a really wonderful time and and get get your Mojo running for the start of the gardening season and I will clue you in carry. That Ellen is speaking on Friday evening at five right Ellen. Yup about houseplants and how anybody can grow them. I don't WanNa hear any excuses and I am speaking right after that about vegetables and how anyone can grow them no excuses so we're going and to be having a good time so check us both out on Friday evening and then Ellen and I are going to be doing container wars on Saturday and after that we're going to be doing our plant. Rama live and to theme. This year is flower power and the cocktail tale. Our yeah so that's GonNa be really interesting now carry if you have to wait a little longer to take your vacation something you might put on your calendar under for what are the dates. The dates are August ninth through the twelfth. And this might be interesting to you carry because you are also a communicator. The garden communicators international is having their annual meeting this year in Williamsburg Virginia where and we will not only be visiting colonial Williamsburg and seeing some historical gardens but we will also be seeing wonderful private gardens that most people people at most times cannot get into see so if you're looking for inspiration and to view some gardens that are kind of off the beaten track and more on the private live inside. This is a wonderful opportunity. If you'd like to hang out with fellow garden geeks this is the meeting for you if you like to see private private gardens as well as public gardens this is the meeting for you and if you want to learn more about horticulture new plant varieties new products. This is definitely the meeting for you. And for those like Kerry who want to increase their garden communication skills by all means. You've gotta come so you can get more information about this garden. Come meeting by going to garden calm. 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"Episode one hundred and fourteen of games. My mom found. I m mike atherton and who. What are we doing i. I don't know where i am. How did i get here. Who's with me tonight. I don't know. I got a strange tattoo on my chest. That says twenty three. But you can call me. Adam like old fifty hughes with the roman numeral joe you know. Why didn't we do this last week. And i thought that last week going to introduce them like i'll maybe we should have done that next week. Oh whatever you know what i mean. That didn't even dawn on me 'til just now. I wrote the whole schedule. You know months ago. Getting donna me one. How close these word awesome like. Why wasn't this hundred thirteen hundred fourteen. Why what are we playing this week. We're playing a game. That i picked because i hate myself. We're playing hotel. You made this other thousand interactive you off paradis. Ubisoft published thirteen to two thousand three video game based on a comic. I just found out about two days ago. I played final fantasy thirteen. You might have had a better time. Thirteen is a good game. It just it's a different game and takes a wild but not right here w. f. a. Thirteen i will he sa- thirteen. I thought you were talking about this. One will gladly found ready for that someday so just so we are playing thirteen. Might pick because. I remember playing this back in the day and i never finished it and i'm like i wanna go back and beat this game now. I just go back and slap younger. Mike thinking that thought like no no leave it leave. Remember me and younger. Mike have a lot of issues. Yeah i still. I like things about this. Game are amazing to me still and i most parts of the game. Maybe i thought it was gonna raise quit and to be done with this game. Hey that's what i did. How would you adam. I still enjoy it. It's one of the only games i can say on here. That the side some triple eight tiles. That we've played that i've gone back and played afterwards. I'm like yeah. I still like it. It aged well. But had i mean it doesn't each create compared to like you know modern day first person shooters but at as well enough that i could play it and still had a lot of fun with on adam. Do you want to say you know you're from. Because i was going to quote this point i think and people might just know from games. My mom found. There's also another very amazing. podcast out. There called talk games chew bubblegum. That you know i. I happened to be prominently featured on seven my pillow by us there. Check them out. I wanna. I always go shopping podcasts. At people around. When i have podcast on thank you i appreciate that but then we were so. We just couldn't wait. Talk law thirteen so so those that don't know this is a first person. Actions stealth game mostly still should be only still. Because you can't take a hit person shooter with a lot of style that as as a cell shaded. When salcedo wasn't really i guess as most of a common thing holding rallies watching last night. It's definitely most known for its art style. I would say sounds great. I love i it no matter how many people shot in the head throughout the game with a with a cross-border throwing i never got to three panels popping up as died and i mean i saw over one hundred times. I still smile every single time. Exactly it just so hurry and the little like when they die just like a no or a little hot amount appeal not only is it. Visually just cool but it also is like all right. I shot him a bunch. I know he's dead now. Yeah that's great. And i i love how you when you kill someone in the in the in the room. They're in the different room. They don't hear the screaming. Death of the both shot news that i wonder what happened. The john over there knows kill guys in the same hallway. they'd in react. Yeah they're very the way that the alert mechanic works is very like they have to be looking at each other things or they won't realize it. And i also found out if you're crouching and they look at you and the question mark possible of their head and they see you and you just they don't they don't move right away they they standstill for about two seconds. So you can watch across wobble right through their face staring at you for the runoff. Which is all that. I used i was gonna say once i figure that out. It was a kind of a tactic used. It's hard to believe that the remake somehow has dumber a. I from what i've heard. It's as bad as it is amiss. Somehow it's worse dumber just full of glitches and bugs and which is sad. 'cause it was a good version. I would definitely played through that. I really wanna play it now. Hit looks great. To me. Dummy i and i saw how much damage you don't take when you get shot. Oh i was in. I was like oh i wanna play this bat game. Can it's percent. I wanna point you do that. I like bad games. And i cannot watch the show as we said in last episode. I just remembered. We will a code for thirteen classic. But we're going to in the episode Midway through i will read off the code. At some point i played solitaire. First-come-first-served thing oh last time we did it we did to give away my co-host over here took it because it was there for like a week so far i was like oh host. Yeah i if you're interested you know what some just take. Someone might have not even bothered. Yeah that's what i gotta say. It's working out there before. I forgot because i forgot so thirteen game. Has i also the reason why this game grabbed me. Because i love this type of story. The story starts off. I think you want start off you waking up on a beach not knowing who you are. You've he's as amnesia. Somebody some hot. You know someone from watch. Rescues him by watch. That's what it reminded me. Oh she's a lifeguard the read some state everything. Yeah yeah and so she rescues him. And i think it's pretty early on that you find out or at least maybe the opening cut scene where you see the kennedy getting shot. I mean kennedy but it could just kennedy. It's someone in a president gets killed assassinated by a guy in a rough or in a hotel or books. Maybe a used bookstore. But you know it wasn't really him the shot the bullet and you get five rifle three shots and they end in your being. It was and i think it was you who did the murder because someone took a home video camera and caught you on it. Yeah it was like a clever said ruse where we like your character walks into this room and the blind goes up. And you're looking through the telescope. Which is made to look like a sniper scope. President goes down then yeah. You're framed for murder shipping. Free shirt thirteen actually did do it in the store in this story just not year thirteen. Yeah there will be twelve thirteen by the way. I should say that. Now i owed dove. Anyone gives a shit from the game. It came up two thousand three basic book that came out in nineteen eighty-four that so but i should say it anyway. Okay it's out i. We're going to say things. So that's why i like this game. The stories grammy. I wanted to know what happened. Because i never got. I never got a chance to finish it because younger. Mike have not beaten this game. Yeah i'm trying to find a some versions of the comics because it goes further into the story. I can help it. Well thank you and when we get to it eventually. It's still bothering me. After all these years of something. Yeah that's why reading the comic exactly what we'll get there later. I definitely wanna talk about that. But i mean even like the way the game starts off grammy completely like i i love the style. I love the fact that you have this mystery story of you. Just have a tattoo on you. You don't know what's going on. And they kill the lifeguard immediately. They garner down. and you get throwing nicest. Start the game so any game. Let me start with throwing knives. I mean i'm in for fun us. Yeah in the throwing knives in Shards of glass. Read the two things that no matter like. What other weapons. I had my inventory. I'm like i need these. I want to like i said what's that. What are you talking about so in the game like you can break glassware. They'll be glass littered around and you can pick it up in use it like a throwing star and it actually just like throw knives every that see that awesome low three panel thing and trying to argue so you feel like a bad us. I can't believe how much fun that that will see in that. Probably it really was just very. And i mean that that styles throughout the entire game and the game just really like fluctuate but even early in the first the first mission with the beach. I forget if you get arrested on the beach. Earn all he finds out he has a key on him for a safety deposit box. Some banks you go to a bank. And then i like how this mission different. Because it's like don't kill anybody who works for the bank can tell you immediately don't mess. You can't kill anyone if you kill anyone it fails. You're sneaking around around. Just walk around the bank at first and then you get to grab chairs and smack people over the head with chairs as a so. That's where the best part of this game comes into the improvised weapons. There's chairs and ashtrays and shovels. Yeah pretty much anything you see. Line around beacon pickup and swing at someone. It's always satisfying a crack chair over. Someone's face it really getting old. I preferred the old fashioned judo chop. That's inter- yeah. I could not stop like smashing. Chairs is great because the screen flashes and like blue white big vibrant colors and then like smash comes across but The the leftover piece that. I could not stop yelling. Judo chop i was kind of the same way as you atom instead of pulling out the throwing knives never what weapon. I had if i saw her charity. Run over and pick it up. Just cracking on someone said i only did in some heart i would. I love shooting people in this game. Though i mean. In some cases the chairs are stronger than some of the weapons Yeah no. I agree but i had across full and i got the head shop people all i have i have never had. That was my one of my favorite weapons in any game was across. Will in this game the gun as well. I didn't use a harpoon gun very much stuff. Surprising crossbow. Yeah i i just i had. I didn't i just didn't use it because that we'll get there later but that parking issues getting angry at the game again. Yeah summer that a steph owners immediate so the first couple levels you take way too much damage of the remind me madrid fusion wherever little hit does like a dozen to image to you of your one hundred points. It's they can be apart. that's fine. I'll just look back so replay codes for for infant health. And apparently something in the game's code or each individual map has a different value for the hell see. You need a code for each level to be able to have held so i ended up playing the the pal version and my game was not an english. So you guys can talk. All about the story i puck picked out a few spanish words here and there but i have no idea what was going on so you just heard all of us so so my game is actually called trae. Say not a more joyful time though. Because you didn't on it yes because i did have infinia a health because some some reason that works better for the pelvis got wrong tried and i tried to look cheap. I couldn't get into work. Yes i played this. Pc and i know it came out like your later. I bought it on steam. And i didn't have too much of a problem with that. I guess maybe. I played too many first person shooters but i'll do the shopping and shooting. Were they not doing a ton of damage when they hit you they did but i was always running and taking cover and i mean i feel like i was but god i take a lot of damage when they would hit me and some of the i was safe state so i could really manipulate how you're hitting me and even when i did that is still felt like they were doing tons of damage to me like i couldn't get out of it sometimes and we're coming from being in cover and timea. When i came out of cover. I got you. It was weird. It was one of the harder games. I played in a while. Because we'll save you manipulate everything. You can kinda see okay if i go left or vinyl is going to be there and i do this. Why still get hurt. And i would still get hurt yet. Some of their like. I was getting pelted with shotguns from sniper range. I'm just like all right all right. Good on you know. That's that's this game though. Sometimes it is that early two thousands curse two thousand three in mandeville like thirteen Two thousand three's being added to the list of two thousand two quite one game from two three so far so we'll see but if this keeps up i'm going to be making making my jokes about that year to as it has an issue. I i liked the fact that this game feeling. You're supposed to be stealth. Most of the time. I'm a hundred percent. Okay with that. But there are so many points of the game and you can't be still and the way i got ripped apart. I wasn't installed when i had to be shooting people. It was just too much damage to quickly and it really bothered me a lot so it was one of my problems with the game. Like how much fun. As i was having but when i have to go toe to toe gunning people because there was no stealth because they already know. You're there you just get just get murdered so badly. I'm like this isn't fun. So that if you're taking less damage i would enjoy the game a lot more. I still wasn't taking damage. And i still was having wasn't enjoying it. The thick for what it's worth. The locales are so interesting. We were talking about the bank and the bank. You know blown up and you're running around and you have the next place. You're you're you get arrested. I mean you get arrested recipes in this game capture and end up by headquarters and you're sneaking around there and then you're going through vans iowa's really really enjoying this game in those parts. It does definitely capture. That spy espionage thriller james bond kind of feel and we have to say if we didn't mention that the the voice the main voice of thirteen. The guy. you're playing as is David duke will be x. Files which is to be nothing compared to adam west in this game. Yup i have no like i knew adam west. Of course i have no like. I don't like the old batman. Show that no association like it didn't matter to me at all. It's gone so far where. I don't really remember him as batman anymore but i remember him as the mayor of co hog gonna go for some reason. It still works in thirteen. M as colonel where i'm dislike. I still can see now. The mayor of kohong adam west. Then it didn't work. I did enjoy an address on there. And i enjoyed the whole story. How as as the game progresses early on fbi headquarters you find out your the murderer he find out. He's the murderer and they start piecing together and that's when other people start helping you to adam. West gets involved jones. Which is this woman that rescues you throughout the game and kinda like whereas working with you to help you piece together your memory figure out you remember shit. He starts getting like memory here and there scenes will remind him of who he was like. Little flashback black and white scenes. Those are cool where us things. And you're just kind of there but you can only move a little bit like all it is. It's very well done. Even on this game anger. I was a little big fan of it for the most part but it made me angry. See what's really weird and had to keep reminding myself that it was a spy game like you are a secret agent. I eventually started growing tired of the stealth sections another stealth section. Like i get it. But it's really weird saying that. Jed that's jal love the most near the end of the game. That's what i started hating the most. I love them the most because one was playing with safe date so at the moment they yell alert. And if i didn't get my airline their head fast enough. I hit a button and did not have mattered. And i just did differently. So that was part of it. Made me enjoy this game. That i could really like play around with all i was doing it. Yeah the checkpoint system in is few as far between and i would be playing like for ten minutes and then like an alarm would go off and the next thing. I know like i had to redo ten minutes of the game. I'm like you're back the start of the stage like yeah. It's the little overkill their gots house one of my problems to a couple a couple of times. I had to do that just because the game. When a glitch out or something. I didn't have a choice with that. Really bothered me to that it. That had that in there where you had to shake thousand. Three checkpoints weren't as friendly as they are nowadays ridiculous. Great when you when you die or when alarm goes off or whatever you fail mission and it's not just pops into a load and put you right back. No paul pulls up the manual. You have to go to reach rides like are you sure you're gonna lose all your unsaved progress. I'm like i just died. Like what progress. Take me back to where i was. Are you sure you wanna lose. that died. progress there mike. I mean you might want to screen for the the long load times even even cheating. I still as i haven't funded. It's robotech all over again. Yeah how how can you say that i. I'm going to put this on record mike. So far this season you pick one again. I'll give you a listener. Guy but metal gear solid theories like the only thing. I really had fun with so far. No i know. I was getting stuff out of that was in like just wanted to do in the show and then i got the ability to do it. Yeah thanks a lot alec. I remember liking this game. Jonker was like the first thing. I told mike when Actually i think maybe both y'all when i volunteered to do this episode i was like great. I have fond memories of this game. Why not go ahead maroon at for me. Yeah i mean i. My memories are still fond of this game crossbows and the story is just fantastic for me like i just. I was eating up the story just and i loved each moment as you go like the roof. Headquarters are running around on a rooftop. You have to use a little here more. But the fishing rail gap grappling hook grapple. And then you have a separate remote that controls the likes pulls up like a fishing reel but you twitch you a gun and shoot people with switch back to your remote control. In order to lower rate you can switch weapons while on the one hand weapons. Oh so k. I didn't. I didn't wonder why i'm like well. Maybe he shouldn't be zooming in separate while he's hanging on a rope swing back and forth but you know what fine. I'm okay with it. I don't eat logic in my video games. Not this one. I keep on the on the rope a lot. You know he's end well. But i would do it anyway. Also the crossville has a delay in this game. Like if you're really far away. The crossville is not instantaneous. Ono lake yeah. And like i love those long distance sniper shooting aiming like three feet ahead hitting it and then it zooms out near like. Are you a hit. Did i hit an dune comes up. I never got fired. A t and then like the other one is when you're shooting people off ledges or something like that and you little panel of them like falling and bouncing off stuff. The whole comic book feel that they did with this game just fits so well and they did it. Perfectly eating like when you're starting A new level and it's got like a little panels and it's flashing between them and something's going on in between it. It just always felt great. I think it was the next level. That really grabbed me though. That made me kind of because it's like the first real stealth level in the game. When you go to the it's called emerald base or something. I think here emerald military base. And you're like you have to sneak around. Like i think at this point but that's what i was trying to learn how the game plays like at first. I was sneaking around. I'll i'll seem he will. They were shooting at me. I just murdered them but then it was later on when i learned i can cartridge crossbow. And if i von even yell alert as long as they don't get to a button before you put a crosswalk through their head. everything's fine. let them go along. You just hear that middle alert and we'll just cut off immediately. It was great so great was so happy. The stage was the bags. Is this going around destroyed the ford generators right electrified circuit and climb up. Yeah that was a bad leg. Took me a minute to realize that. It had blinking lights outside of all the buildings. The head the generator sign it. Because i was just wander around. Like where do i go which happened a little too often and this you can get confused in it. Does that the canyon were slower offender though but we'll get that ladder. I was say that ladder. I was playing on headphones and asked destroyed me. I got close to it. And i headed like just mute. The game until i figured out how to turn off that ladder. It was the only time. I ever had like a really bad audio issue in the game and i was just and it wasn't even an audio issue. That's what it was programmed to do god. I couldn't hear anything or poor here. Canals a yeah. No that is not nice. That was annoying. I turned off. I well. I can't believe most of the game with headphones because i really enjoyed all the sounds of this game like i was so into it. Which is just weird to me. Because i don't always get into you know as anyone listen to the show. I like podcast other. When i play a game with this game i wanted to hear the sound effects. I wanted to hear music. I wanted to hear the tap tap if people walking around the music hall speaking of the tap tap tab. That was pretty cool. You can't stand place for a couple seconds of your six cents. You can see where people are walking. It usually work unless you are paying attention you go. He went that we turn around the corner. He's looking right at you. That happened still. I don't even remember like the lake with a little note. I know when. I had. I had asked you about. The people complained about the lake. As you go. Do you go to some lake to meet up with. I didn't catch us in the game after reading. The comic i know in the comic is supposed to go. Meet your meat and rowling's wife. i don't remember. They say that in the game who going to light to meet yet. I think her name was eighty or something like that. She was the lady in blue dress. Guy wasn't paying enough attention. 'cause i don't remember any of that like there's even a flashback. Where she was like. I hit a weapon in this chest. Gonna rocket comes destroys her. He doesn't but i had forgotten like forgot that happened. And then i was. I played through the entire area. Where you're at the cabin fighting off people. The helicopter comes on trying to shoot in my little stupid little gun. I have the hunting rifle. I'm like this doesn't work. I'm like oh yeah. And i opened up. The chess grabbed the huge machine gun and took and took them out. Oh i didn't do that. You sit in one place and shop. No i had health for them. So i just kinda ran out there like okay i do. You wanna say that because this is the only level you get the hunting rifle. Hunting rifles to shots. Was i had a blast with that gun. Like i was so happy. Just taking people out still had my revolver here and when within fernando it didn't have to reload so i just kept hitting fan the hammer and his basically fire as fast as i can hit the button boy to play. I was gonna say now. That sounds awesome. Remember it was like one of my favorite weapons grace besides like the crossbow. Unlike other guns that was a guaranteed like headshot. It's also it's a good long range weapon to A lot of games with a handgun better long range weapon than you than you think. It should be unnoticed because the bullet spray on the machine. Guns is just foof man. There's a mini gun. That would have been fun if i got too many gun ever on this level of this locker. Okay i can see. I can see there being hidden staff mean i mean you. Can you also can you can get a vast you can wear. You get little helmet that you can protection. They shoot. had. I guess i didn't really work out very well. Still get ripped apart but you get. It was cool. Oh cool that's made the ten foil but it's a nice hat. It didn't feel like that. I mean like. I said you take so much. Damage this game that and even that whole cabin standoff was pretty damn cool to me i was in. I was into it. Even though i died a couple of times and had to they flint are still into it. And then you get arrested you get captured again and you could take into an asylum. I guess is what happened. I don't remember but that's that's where it is. Yeah okay this no. there's an avalanche there's an avalanche hassle. Yeah and you get buried in ice. Then i the mongoose or whatever comes up and it's like yeah take him faulk the mongoose okay that that old bald headed asshole is if i when i make when we make a list of top worst bosses i gotta remember. He's up there that But we'll get there but when you wake up and that asylum you had the guy next you just going crazy like i ready for duty. Sarah remember hell saying that. Was that abused me. It's it's definitely interesting when they come in. Tear you kind of and the guy next to you is kind of like you can tell. You've been experimented on. Yeah yeah he's seen some stuff. I liked that. This part was kind of fun when you're sneaking around the the whole asylum and you're just kind of like trying to escape and then there you fight. He's when you fight the first row the game as you know you have tattooed thirteen. You find out that you're all part of a league of and fastens and that iran has a number. You start trying to assassinate people to have these numbers and you're working your way towards number one. There's twenty and in total okay. You only fight once before you don't use this game. I want to say only fight. What the everyone that. You're killing of numbers that are lower than your number. I can't room them. I mean how much tension. I just know that. All great have a health bar. I'd get upset real fast. Ask their bullets sponges. Oh and that's the problem like this game wasn't they. Were the most unbalanced part of this game because everything this game it was made to be stealthy where you take a lot. You take a lot of damage very quickly. You can kill. People usually pretty quickly. As long as you're smart about you get a headshot but when you fight bosses you just have to tank them and feed yourself health kits so it was not fun drugs you everything will be all confused and you can't do anything right away and it was not cool. I was. I really like the only time that you get that kind of like mechanic. Did you play any of the multi-player. Oh so any multi player that has bought and where i can just play offline and just go in and play against bots automatic. Lied love my favorite thing just mainly because the bots can't troll me in just have yeah. I would have liked that as a kid. Yeah but you get flash bangs in the emma and multi player. And i don't ever remember getting flash bangs in and single player and yeah and it's really cool because one of the things i love. It is the sound design so for rocket goes off really close to you your your mopping and like your duffer awhile and same with the flash bangs. They are bright and leave you stunned and the next thing you know if you get hit with flashbang and multi player. You're pretty much dead. That's cool okay. I i would really like actually thought i owned steve and i was looking at my library while we can talk. I don't even see this game myself. i'm here. I know i had it as a kid. I want to just maybe thinking about backing on like. I wish i played this when i was younger. I would really like multi-layer buffalo's white love perfect dark for so long. The perfect docking time splitters. Good stuff it just makes games better so that is cool. Don't like there was a part within the time that kind of bug meal little bit like there's a it there's as you're getting to the boss he locks up. One of his nurses are patient. Or you know assistance in a room with someone that you know tied up or someone. That's no patient here and it's just kind of holy rape uvira. He didn't really care for but it is thousand through online. I mean doesn't happen. Rescuers thank you and then she just helps you get out of. There is the where they're gonna take me as a hostage. You can take hostages. Shoot every guard in the head and they won't shoot a few of hospital. Look i killed four of your friends. Like it's just just gonna stand here you you think would've started shooting when i started shooting but let me let me kill everyone one by one. I'd kill him. I completely blanked on what i was going to say. Awesome continue okay. Then you get an ambulance and run away and i. I liked how they had like the staff. You weren't if you kill anyone like that was a scientists or someone that is in part of the evil people are like an fbi or you kill like soldiers later on for the military the game just end because you're not a villain in you know you're be so i. I thought that was really cool even though it was annoying but cool. Oh the hostage mechanic. Yes that was a. I wish you would do that. A little bit more often twice. Yeah exactly and i really enjoyed it because like it's one of the more realistic Mechanic ever taken. Where like if you're looking at them they don't shoot you but as soon as you turn like a little bit they can get a good shot on you. That's when they start peppering you. I was like Like when you put a bullet in their head they don't do nothing except the first time you have to do and you can't shoot the guards and the banks. Yeah here's walking backwards. I'm like Where am i supposed to go walk all the way back to the hallway dead ends. There's nothing there. Michael what the hell's. I had to die several times. It retry say yes. Wait for the loading. Get back into our was taken hostage and the this alarms blaring nonstop during all of this and like apparently. There's a door halfway down the hallway that you use the card kion. This of course is two thousand. Three's there's just a texture on the wall. Or whatever. So i i had i had to walk. Lockable walk through to figure out where was i was talking to you about that. And you're getting your date. I'm like it's on the it's over here. It's like the second mission i was already passed. Langas is not going to be good for me. I grabbed the hostage. I hit the wrong button. I choked her out on the ground. In iran path the guards and found the door and hit the thing and got out. It's probably better way to do it. It was funny shit. They just started unloading on me. And i'm going to run into my life. I did do that several times to hit the wrong button. And she's laying on the ground like else. I agree though that that is a very cool system though that the hostage i remember a long game with hostages for just can't pick of any at the moment but i did enjoy like i no problem with it. Yeah i guess. Like the only other ones i can think of or just really big third person shooters and as soon as you take hostages. They're still shooting at you like. oh now. my bullet schultz dud john guys. Yeah i didn't like the next level. The grand canyon value. And you're tryin. Late sneak into the military base. I did not enjoy this bubble at all. This was pissing me off. It's just amazing of level it's platform off go up to different levels and there's only like two or three rooms quote unquote. But i yeah. I was going around in circles. If i realized that. I'm supposed turn rate here instead left. We'll there's also introduces rocket launchers. In this game you take a lot of damage. Rocket launchers are terrible a heat through he shot at twenty feet away from him still dead anyway like it. Just i had like safe state. Pop out you'll curse right where the guy was going to be. Shoot him immediately so he didn't get the rocket off if he did you run. It was because again was save can test different things. I can test how. This is gonna work if i do it this way. I do it that way. So i would do that to test things. If i didn't like the outcome of how much health. I talks and it helped me a lot about how this game is like. You have to a like i. if you're gonna play the game legitimate we all about memory i go. I know there's three guys down here. This is what i have to do. Otherwise you will not succeed in this game and i. I don't know that was a two thousand. Three two thousand two type thing that era or just a bad game design it like nicholas cage is character in next where he can see two minutes into the future africa movie by the way. You're also like nicholas cage in the movie face off in a way to you. Don't you don't find that out yet though. I don't know that there is some weird shit game that that's almost cool. How did like the story is interesting and you go to the military base was. I think that's where you quit right. Mike yeah. I think so right after this you get to a military base. This is one of my. I really enjoyed this part because this is because they were going. You know senor senor. That's all. I know. I'm else but you have to hide the body if you don't hide the bodies which uses pick them up endure reagan somewhere and throw them in a pile which i did multiple times in this game. The guard will spawn walk by and see the bodies and alert and the game ends. We'll you're skipping over the swimming through the sewer part at the start of this level o. k. Ask as my guide showing that he got to swim through on your very limited oxygen meter and trying to figure out which pipes to go down. So i would good on the first be. Bf to use your grapple hook to go up and hit a switch to open up the next great but you got avoid the guards. 'cause you can't be seen and then i would go back down. And every time. I think like one hundred percent of the time that i was trying to do the stupid level. I went back towards the beginning instead of the way i was supposed to go which is not me. It's totally on me. But it was still annoying. yeah. I liked that part. I forgot about the sewer part. Brian joined it. Yeah i thought yeah no matter. How optimal of a route you know you took are neat there. You had like two three seconds before you had to come up for air and it on one of those people that holds their breath underneath water level to see how well it does. And i'm like no all right yup yup. This is about perfect timing. You can go too long. Usually but i enjoy the. You also don't have to kill people like i would go third. I tell everyone. Just because i i love people the gospel. But you don't have you can just hit the switch back in the water and keep going like the game doesn't expect you but also you have. I had to wait for conversations to happen when the guards would just talk to each other. And i'm like come on come on up like continue on because if i go up there now bad things are going to happen including my death. You can die so easily in this game. you're stupid. I thought it was cool as as but terrible of you're playing this legit. Yeah this was Where i really started hating the no checkpoint system uh-huh because i was having problems with the grappling hook section. That comes up after you get out of the sewers. And i would have to keep going back and like you said that conversation between the two guards. The time wasn't that long. Maybe ten fifteen seconds but it seemed like in fifth time. You had to do it. I'm just like i'm going to go insane. i. I can't imagine playing the game legit. I swear. I beat this back in the day but as i was playing. I'm like second-guessed mass off. Then there's there's no way. I would add the patience for it even even back then. It's always that bow. Younger me was a lot better than older. Somehow younger didn't have jobs. We school and more fan. We're so spoiled by modern game designed to. That's a lot. I think two is that when you play modern games like if this if thirteen would have been remade correctly. Tried to wanna play. I mean you'd have a checkpoint every light you know you go different room checkpoint. They would not. They wouldn't do what this game does is. It's an older style of game. It's like you didn't have the luxury of playing semina- game. So if you had one game i need to beat it. Yup yeah i just want story. Were level only had the one checkpoint at the start of the stage. Because i was all the way at the end doing the platforming like adam stock and that's the end of the level. But if you die there you're all the way back in the beginning and that's another thing that game annoy me with safety. It wasn't a problem. But i don't like for fringe shooter with platforming because it doesn't usually work well when you can run a new ad run and jump mechanics short fucking star wars dark forces over two years ago but you know i game. Oh playing on. Pc everybody knows shifts causes you to sprint. Not in here should cause you to walk into like so many times. I've got into a firefight. In instinctually i would hit. Shift like to spread out of there. I'm like oh no no. No no no no no also vote want to right past them. Looks hilarious from the guards. Perspective you gear up to need his stroll up a little confusion tactic. I learned in the academy. I tried to play this on on. Bc controller support on a filthy console player so for through better mouse and keyboard. Once you get used to them unless you're a long playing something from whatever year our dr force it came out because it used did not you is keys. It use the arrow keys on. I'm pretty sure didn't have mouth. I had used keys to aim and do stuff and it was not a fun it was. It was tough cooking put. It doesn't play well. Twenty twenty twenty twenty one. I think lego island use their keys. I remember like while. I had that game scared me for some reason. Dark forces nineteen ninety. Five so yeah. They had no idea what they're doing it. Lego island is a game that lives in my nightmares. For some reason. We're not going today. But that games in my nightmares but therapy for it again. If you want to be an african rip like that much what we'll do we could get it to run on modern. Pc's i would play the bullshit game. But just because. I want to talk now you're might be. That is tough. That's thirteen like the whole spots cam like and you get to apart but this is what pissed you off as you as you're sneaking around you're taking people out and you're hiding bodies or kate i would just kill them and i would wait and they came to the body. I would just shoot them why they could. They would bend down to shoot him in the head. While you've been down looks the body you think if you saw your friendly in their dead you'd be like i should probably call back up now. I gotta get a good look. It makes sure that this is actually a guard. He got tired you know. Maybe he hates them. Having food poisoning pass chilly chilly from the chef. That's all i mean. Ev- i if i see somebody laying down i'm not gonna buy Something wrong here. Not in this game. I still love. We talked about it on if they call. I had a guy once. Run from me. Because i killed his friend. I missed him. he ran he calls a radio alert. Easier we need and shot him in the head when he didn't finish conversation and it just ended. That was it getting level kept going no alert. Nothing just got melgar solid three dollars an intruder spies Sent back up and if you get them kill them right before the end of the the guys like. Hey what's going on out there. But they at least yeah. That is true. Nothing the hall. I can think about is the scene from archer. Were their own radios. And he's like are you done talking. You didn't say. And that's all. I can imagine the guest. The guard san like he didn't say over so males false forgot to say over. He's sitting there for the rest of the day way to defense the sentence. That's funny but stupid refunding in the spots camp where you have to do apart you have to put a you have to put a receiver on a radio in a tent. I know this is where mike got messed up. They have any right outside the tent. But there's also backdoor into the otherwise you have to shoot the guy in the head and drag his body away because when they when when you put the radio on it sugars. npc's to come out of a door that right across town norwalk. Rate in those who the dead body yeller. 'cause especially on the stealth sections. I was planning to leroy jenkins style. Or i would just go and kill everyone first and then try and figure out what i was doing after that. You cannot really say when i mean i'm not kidding. I keep making that joke alert. I've sound like look up a youtube. Something going on is how terrible when it's so funny. I don't even remember they. The spanish hurson is. This became a podcast game for me about the time. I couldn't understand what people are saying. You mean you don't see. I picked up a few words here and there took two years and high school hundred years ago. So adam. did you get annoyed with the with the sponsor military base. You have to fight another one little boss that definitely was pissing me off this so mostly the boss battles didn't bother me except for one and it's not even the one that you had a problem with okay. I a problem but mine was the helicopter. Okay didn't have a problem with that one at all. I had nothing prom without less. 'cause i hit and i could time it will save states put vessel different. Oh yeah one christie offer you fight the military general just unloading on you and you just. It wasn't hard. But it's after you because you blow up the whole place and yeah the boss right. Were the one that army most liked the story elements of it the fact that you're taking these assassins of this of the secret organization atlas cool but i did system might the way that they're bullet wenches at all. But hey how many games can say you get to hijack a submarine to. I could be more. But i don't think i ever got this far when i played the game back in the day but like i m i knew it was in this game like i don't. I don't remember how far i got when i played when younger but i knew there was a submarine in this game. I knew part was coming up. And i was so excited when you finally got to get on the submarine you and others annoying parts getting to it begins. His was really damn cool this this level. I drove me insane because no matter how stealthy i was trying to be there was always somebody. There is always something that i was doing wrong and the guards above the great that could see me lake debt. That was the route they walk up and down this great. And even crouching somehow they would see me and if they saw me i couldn't shoot him through the great and it calls just instant restarts every time and i was like i am getting very upset at this level. Gotta blame you. I would have gotten pissed off to. Yeah but i didn't have that problem good did but i don't blame than the meza just art. I need to go up to two ladders through this door around this roundabout down one ladder. This level drove me insane. Are he didn't have a problem with it. So the end when you fight a boss fight. And i had run out of health and i had to take out. A boss was very little health. And i was getting real any as cronies with them to. I got pissed. I actually was ready at this point when one of the two times started looking at cheat codes a find a way to cheat this game and it did not work out i try. I found colbert code. But i couldn't get anything to work. Nothing would work. I could not find out how to 'cause you anyone use a dolphin emulator easily. What's called deco normally. You can just download code. But you couldn't for this game. And i was trying to find was terrible. Could not do it. And i and i did if i did. It finally was safe states. I got good at it but who do boss take way too much damage in this game. Terrible so did y'all ever use dual weapons. Only i didn't even know is the thing until i read it. This logo did slater in the game. It's not early in the only certain guns to end and then mike the mini. Guns are uzis in this game. Oh i didn't like. I like i said i use revolver crossbow and machine guns. I barely used any other any other weapons. Okay use fake. M16 a lot. Yeah very good isn't bad. M16 all air. Three three from goldeneye every single time. I know 'cause you know golden ahead. Fake gun name. But that's what i see. Every time i see that type of guy. I see air thirty. It's fair ogle but you get to blow up a up so that was cool by putting a bomb on the propeller underwater in a destroys a whole sub like this. I understand the game and all that. But this is the part roundly. How many of these things do i need to plant. Oh no. I have a time limit going down. Okay you escape or perhaps hatch to while he's writing a bond movie. Jeez i think they did that in world not enough And also this world not enough because it starts off in a bank which world enough first level nut instantly four games a bank. I think Tomorrow never dies takes place on a a suburb of some sort. What i never heard ibm. Sorry roughly what are you talking about. That is a great move. I will defend that movie. It's not it's not great but yes it did. He's a giant saab. He uses to kill people and so he can sell more newspapers. Because that's what the villain dozen tomorrow. Night he sells newspapers. And he's going to create a world war five to sell these papers. And i'm not kidding of the world. War part this the bunch straight up murders. God seen this one now. I got to watch. It's okay. it's not just. It's not as good as golden eye and that's all but it's okay. It's worth watching. It's a fun for got bought. A guy sells newspapers. So i'm gonna keep all right now for that I don't remember the naval base part. Which is after this with the sub or the harbour. I don't remember any Although the helicopter. You're that you're had a hard time. We up and say. I remember you only. Can you as a rocket launcher to damage it. Even though you have a big ass m sixty machine gun would only make sense to take down a helicopter. And i spent way too much of my bullets going. Why is it. maybe. I have to hit the propeller like not knowing so i pull out the rocket launcher in the helicopter. Only stays still like three seconds and your rocket kind of takes its sweden time hitting its target into it would always move and then eventually i had finally more rockets around the stage and i thought i was going to run out but i found a room that was like hey we screwed up on this boss fight. We know you're going to go through a lot of rockets here. You go health and everything. That one took me away too long. It's like every bus binary domain screwed up good game. I will defend you. do that. goes through episode. Help to you want to hear us argue so we really bad games bad. We were playing like oh. I didn't begin to mike hoops. Because almost like i said it. Just i had games. I really want to do in. The show would never got the opportunity to or last season all big hitters. We were trying to like. We're trying to fix things and rebuild the season. This is what i went. Okay what stuff. I really wanna play a half million to. This came up on the list unfortunately same same with some of the game. Like binary domain convince you to play in trouble. I regret it too. If that makes the rest of the season from this point on with all one one question mark is pretty solid though legacy came should be all right. okay. I do agree that the helicopter annoying. I just didn't have a hard time with it. Because i was cheating. I can see why can be a bitch. Yeah but other than that You know the comic book style. And we mentioned a few of the the levels the canyon sub. There's a lot of the same colors going on. It's very like canyon. That's all Of course the snow levels are completely white and this level was like all this red bricks. And i got lost so many times because i went say poor level design which i mean the canyon it was but it was because i couldn't see things because all the colors blended in all the time where there is endure hidden behind boxes. And that was the case in this level where you have a key card before you fight. This helicopter and i walked all the way back to the beginning of level twice. Mike wears this door. And it's just behind a pallet of boxes. I might i. i'm gonna break something. Yeah if there's some dumb stuff like that in this game. I got lost. And i'm like what the hell and i look around and find something stupid. I missed early. Ps two era. Oh of course which is not my favorite. Sometimes i'm i'm you know we're still find bouncer one day though so happening except master scare that. I've really fond memories of that game. Some really scared of that too. It just like good. Good your turn get something ruined for you so after you do this whole that. We're complaining about you go. I think one of my. I really liked somebody's final levels like you go to a hotel and the hotel double where you have like sneak around this hotel takeout guards and i actually have to hide their body after all of their bodies in a room at one point and close the door and i like five four. Four two five bodies lanes room. Because you go to a certain part. You'd go through a door and if you didn't hide the bodies a guard would spawn behind where you were and find the body side. Go back for the guard. Spot after alert happened. I wrote my safety. Shot him in the head through his body in the room and continue not. That's what was happening. He's fawns in that he's that back area where you were if if they tell you to hide the bodies but that's why it was happening because i was like i wasn't hiding the bodies that i was like all right. Well there's only five enemies before. I have to go spy on this little conversation. Where like are they waking up did not gonna conscious while hit careless and he's spot zoom. Find some okay. Well that makes sense now. They do that. A few times in this game is a guy who saving thousands to figure that out where they will spawn enemies behind you to find people you kill you trigger certain events. That's dumb you tell you hi bodies before. It happens to two times that happens. Well yeah but it doesn't say hide the bodies or else we're gonna cheat you out of it. But i i was a big fans hotel room and you have like spied on a guy these two guys talking what you have. If you don't hold the microphone and follow him into the room as he walks around you live with three seconds. You just automatic game over. Yep i was because one time i moved my hand to do something and he started walking away. Then yeah and if you accidentally unequipped it. It's an automatic can't equip it back enough which i found out twice. 'cause i wasn't standing in a really good spot to follow him. You know i wasn't standing right next to the gigantic opened window that they have for you. There was like a little bed. And i'm like i'm going to be sneaky just in case they can see me or something well. I had to restart this level about three four times. All i also did learn a new thing. I did not know about gamecube. Game plan and get clean for was a game controller really sucks. I played this with an old. Usb gaming king control. i like the game cube experience and that wasn't good. I can't ever imagine playing a first person shooter on against you've ever again. The stick moves the key. You know how you're looking at a joystick may be moving around like that. Oh you took a little bit to get used to amy. Because i was flying. I usually plant fake three controller network perfectly but a fake game controller work so good for the game so i intend to made elaborate to remake metro prime. They're like yeah. We're not or not using this thing for that. That was what might one of my things. I found out by doing this this game. But that whole level when you when you when you do find like the fbi comes they come after them and you have to go hunt them down throughout the hotel. I was dallas. Greatly enjoyed these bosses. You can take these two guys. Even i was almost dead. I enjoyed it. Yeah really cinematic. I didn't realize i had to shoot the glass to activate the first false. Some walking around them. Like how do i get down. Oh giant pane of glass. Let me let me guess. It was cool. All right phil the plane. That's cool you. Just shoot the planning laugh in this giraffe down like i was like i enjoy. Most of 'em part of this game military base pissed me off a little bit. We'll get there but the hotel was was one one great level that was that was fun level and easily. When you're starting to kind of know more about strike as around the time maybe a little bit for that you find out that you're not rolling in like you thought you were not thirteen. You are not the assassin. You are a guy. Some other guy named jacob fly that did plastic surgery to look like the guy who shot the president and had the tattoos could infiltrate the secret organization because the whole point is you find out some point. Maybe this point the game. They're trying to throw a cool. They're trying to kill the president of a premature apache or place in the military trying to take over his whole thing. All planned was weird. It reminded me of events that happen it was. I thought it was very interesting. How they did that especially for you. Know playing this game and twenty one okay okay. History tends to repeat itself. Yes from a game for night from big game based from nineteen eighty-four made in france. But it we'll get we'll get there but before getting the final couple areas. I think i should give up this team coach. So if you're still listening. I give you a little bit of time to complete your vitals talking. I'll edit all the space optimum make sure do so get ready to put that code and if you're and again if you're we're like oh man someone else gonna take this cold. Last time. i did this. Nobody took the damn coach class steam. So chances are ninety five hundred people. Listen this aren't gonna poverty mccoy anyway because it's fucking thirteen. Classic steam substance better than thirteen. So if you wanna play when that remake is five dollars on steam. I am it because i'm so excited to try. 'cause i'm a it just makes me wanna play a game sold back. That love stupid. i. I love easy games. Okay i got. I was going to say no need for chico's codes as well. That sounds like all right. If you're still listening here. Is that code real quick. It is g nine j four to a d. t zero z x. e. c. e. z. That is your code for thirteen classic. And we'll see if this this works. I will do this more. And we'll test it in a week or so a couple of weeks or so weeks after this was released a hopefully you listen. It's early but hey you know someone who hopefully enjoy this. Hopefully redeems that. I'm just like last time. We do this. Notre dame both on face still no one reading it nobody wants dr are and then. I saw a game progress. You end up going to this mansion where you find out that the group is meeting to talk about overthrowing the government so you have to go this giant mansion and this whole first part where you're sneaking around the garden and your sniping people with the cross will you get a conflict and now hold three bolts at one time before reloading. I this this weapon will go down. One of my favorite gaming Chef great like i. I was taking out guard after at one point like climbed up a well. There's two guys talking. Came shot in both the head really quick before they had a chance to react and it was. I was i mean i had to reload a couple times. Make it happen but it was great. I try so good like it's just. You missed out on mike mike. I think you would enjoy this part sneaking around the where you would have been sneaky. Think you would have enjoyed even though this is the part where yellow alert and they give you a button. The game fails but like i said if they run run to somewhere and call on a phone but if you kill them why they're calling you're okay which is what did multi-member where he was in. Ns right. that's where i got the part. Where was in the conversation having. He's here he's here and i shot him and it was over nobody so what alcott and it is so cool and and then In when we running around the estate. There's one point that you start. Having to fight people wearing pointy white hoods which apart the people that throwing the coup. And i just i just started laughing really hard line at me a real life events so it was. It was great to me. I'd like this is perfect for me. This game like this part was made the make me laugh. Twenty twenty one. Yes something that. I did not expect a while. Like a me as a kid you know not realizing the importance of these events. I guess not important what it signifies and then you know twenty twenty one plane ed o k. Yeah yeah i mean. I've mentioned the game starts off essentially based off the kennedy assassination like. That's what you're doing that off that you find out that you're not the guy who shot the president which also makes me laugh because i don't believe oswald shot kennedy. I don't it was a match to buy i. I stay away from oceans here seas. I do not believe lizard. People run the world. I don't believe that okay but people everybody knows is the mole. People took care of them in the first issue. I don't know. But i i made this joke pride. I do believe someone else shot kennedy. I think oswald was set up by the mafia the mafia who killed kennedy. But that's neither here nor there but the fact that this game had that conspiracy theory with the whole game based on and you have this thing with people wearing the clan hoods trying to throw a coot and working with the military. They don't like the president and konta patsy and stuff like that like it really makes me i. It hits my historical buffing especially in twenty twenty one low ironic as far as i'm willing to go with that job but as fairness i want to say more but i'm like i'm just gonna stop thing these days font is a really fun part and let me state like blown up at one point and you're running around with is great. Shooting glucose clan member looking guys in the face with with crosswalk just crate. That's something that never gets old fine and then you're running around. Things are blowing. I was having so much fun wheelers estate. I didn't want to put the game down. And i was happy that i felt that way for a change. This game most part is it got really angry a couple of times and throughout this game you're working with a senator sharon who is the brother of the guy who was killed who's going to run for president again. Which is what is kind of a kennedy type thing. Because robert kennedy was going to run for office to be president after his brother died but didn't get because he got shot so i kept thinking they were going to kill the other sheridan brother that you're helping to throughout this game. They do not because he goes a different way. That that's i mean. Those are the conclusions. I was drawing. They were taking from history which also makes the as only twenty years after kennedy was shot. So it's more in the memory than it is at this point the trance which is too. So he's everything in this everything. Most things in this game are from the french comic. But i'm reading right now. Which is really good by the way. I cannot wait to actually pick that up. I'm gonna say yeah saw that. This was thank you. So it's it's cool and then you go to you. You find out that the military is going to do this. Operation called whole read. So you get the senator take you to a military base. You say that your he. He's my aspirations. Want my bodyguards in this huge stealth part where at i just walking with the senator. But things happen. You have to start getting chairs and knocking out guard. 'cause you can't kill anybody 'cause they're just you know you don't wanna kill these military guard doing their job or soldiers. I should say not military guards. Would you adam so this is unfortunately where i had to put the game down all. Yeah time restraints. That doesn't happens when you joined the podcast episode on friday. But i did as much as i could. So yeah i wasn't too far away did but i remember the ending only because i looked up and watched it before this so when we get to that part i'll be ready. I'll talk about. The nature of the base is super cool. Like i really really enjoyed it. I get pissed off. And i had to fight another one. The numbers you find out that the military general some of them are part of the secret organization with the numbers you to fight a boss fight in a room and it's it's it took me multiple safe state of trying different things in order to get to work because you're in a big room. You don't have a lot of cover and he just relentlessly. Just be shot. If you're not if you don't do it right. It was really made me want to quit the game again. This is the second of three times. I looked up how to do cheat code and failed again and said why am i putting the shitty game. I had some of the greatest moments. I've had in this whole season where i was stealthy stealthy kill people's across lot having so much fun these boss rights on. It's like why did you do this. This game was fondly. Put in these boxes to make me not want to play a game and it really upset me that they did that. I mean again. It's two thousand three's. I'm not surprised but upset a lot. 'cause it takes a really good game and makes it really annoyingly stupid because you put in a difficulty spike. That didn't need to be. And as you as you go through this whole part you kill him. You're trying to stop the total read. You have a time limit part you have to rush through a section and then blow up these different computers to stop the nukes from going off essentially because they're trying to cause a big crisis so they can take over which is how you take over in a coup by the way of history is taught us anything you have to cause a crisis and then solve the crisis that you create and make you look at the other guy doing as you kill everyone in charge. That's what history have watched for some reason. I was watching. I wanted to cool after november of last in two thousand twenty for some reason. I thought you know what happened. There are things about coups really weird. It's almost as if somebody was saying the election they. They won the election when they actually lost so strange. They really did get a ton of things and how to how started how who was stopped all sorts of stuff like that. It's really strange. The they knew the central showed was coming up. That's yes they did it for me. So i'm a big fan of this military base part and running around until the end you had. I had won a boss fight then made me again for the third time. The final boss fight want to quit the game again and look up chicote again. 'cause i couldn't do it so i'm going to describe so as as a game progressing. Your guys hunting you call. The monument was an old bald man really ugly by the way you see how they drew him and us route the game with the end game you get into his room with a bunch of nukes. That are are a bunch of rockets. That are going to be launched and you have to fight him and is you're finding him. You're in this. You know you can hide behind his rocky big rockets and he comes from either side. Shoot you and i tried multiple times even trevor. Safety could not do it. I watch video. You have to shoot the rocket that shootout gas and you have to shoot one size of go the other way. Shoot the other way. Then shoot right side. You shot in the first place. So he'll run into it. Start coughing and you can shoot him. over and over and over again not to mention he can. He can murder you in seconds if he gets hold of you. I tested to. Its second. It's one of those things where i'm like. Did this really need to be this way. And the answer is no no. It didn't mean final boss and needs to be a little tough. But i i understand what you're saying they know it's tough because dropped midway through the fight and get them halfway down they start throwing dead bodies down there for you. Give you health kit. Because the other people are that are with you in this gamer off fighting people and killing people and they may have a whole thing where they show a guy. Come falling down. You can go grab his med kit. And then they have a heat doing the fight. They know probably. Yeah this sucks. We're sorry here's how some more health kits. I would think i was very very angry. 'cause i also very careful my health throughout the entire game even though when you start mission take away all your equipment which pissed me off but yeah still very careful with them. 'cause some missions connect if you're not doing something different. They all connect until you meet with your team and move on again like your health both refill completely or anything like that yeah and checkpoints will save your health. Whatever it was at the time to you can be fuck yourself. I like when you do that. It's like i got to check. Gimme four healthy. Normal game in today's today would give you full helmet. You keep going back two hundred three. No no no he and he got the check. Ten health ten health continued the game with just fucking yup and then after you do the military base you stop the explosion. You stop the the coup from happening and they arrest some of the people. Then you're think he takes place a few months later. Something where you're on a yacht with senator. I think he just got elected. The senator that you were helping kennedy's brother we're to say essentially who it is and you still don't know who number one is. You never found out who number one was. Could they always hide his identity. Even he's in the game a couple of times you see him at the at the estate with the klu klux klan members. I'm going to call them. You see him here and there but always the sky. You never know who he is. And as you're on this boat you hear them talking happening where sheridan orr fearing the character name. I've been calling them. Cf case brother and he starts yelling at somebody and this little odd you go down the stairs he gonna room on you find some no you pick up the notes you find out that the guy even work with the senator he worked through. Most of this game is ashley. Oiler alert number one were in the game and to he walks nerves as me all along and it says to be continued on the screen and i went. Fuck you game. That's what hap- as i said is a bucket whenever got fourteen others asked. We're never going to either Which would be the natural progression. That's why i'm reading the comic because the comic ash continues on the story. Because this is actually i think only the first this game only takes place during the first like five or six issues. I think the only the only up to issue sick. Is that what this game is. A big com books by the way to your ill in one of our previous episodes on top games that you bubblegum Games that need sequels. This was on here and for this reason that at to be continued and while at the time the game didn't get good reviews. It got mediocre to average reviews. It's been years and instead of you know ubisoft releasing another assassin's creed just get something. Just let us give us a five minute deal. See that just explains what half us you know. Don't make me watch a tv show. That only had two seasons. You know i'm gonna read the comics because it's what it's based off of so it has to be awesome but there's years twenty four years later we are still waiting for the sequel to thirteen. I've been based off comic from the eighties. Hundred there's some kind of licensing garbage mixed up on all that robbery and it's a french comic but i also think the comic is like it ended in came back and they finished it later on. I think too. I i mean it ended like twenty ten. I think the last issue was written or something. So i don't know i started reading it yesterday. I read the first to issue the first issue eighty pages. Jeez yeah it was good. Eighty on saturday. Read the whole thing like one city. I don't do that really good. Actually really wanna talk about certain podcast. Maybe but we'll see what i it's definitely worth and i picked it up because i was so upset. A how this game ended. I didn't have any like. I went through all this shit. I beat this game and you just tell me to be continued shooting at twenty twenty one to three like he like adam saying there is no to be continued to tell you never got your single. Yeah set and watch the credits to dis- fireworks going off. Maybe like a little extra like just to second event that kinda goes in further but now it's nothing credit things. I should mentioned Steps i forgot one. The reason he has the white hair side of head that's very iconic because that's what the bought him 'cause knocks playing this game and explained the comment. Oh i i like stuff like that. Other thing is when he gets amnesia. because he's on a boat trying to kill number one was his sheridan and he saw number one and he got shot in the head and losses memory so he knew who number one so number one knew he was the entire time. Knew he was the guy that tried to kill him and knew that he forgotten that he knew he was makes perfect sense. Yes it does. Sorry you were saying. Adam for i had to throw it no. That's just awesome. Yeah you that it's all in the comic. The comic actually kindly the first issue does have some of the intro like in this game like the peach houses will different. He doesn't just wake up. It's but they do have all the moment. Fbi and all that stuff is in the comic to like. They took it right from the comic pretty good so far. We used to getting what i've read so they could give more information but it's cool like the bank. All that is in the comic and a bunch of really stupid to the topic but does france. They don't like authority. sometimes they know what to do. Well they know doing authority gets corrupted. They get out i. I never read. A french comes before. So i'm enjoying it. I don't think i have. But i'm ready in france. Thank god 'cause. I can't read french but so in that talks that goes in more about like i didn't realize that one woman you rescue that he goes to the cabin to meet was supposed to be his rowlands wife or something and i didn't know that's all in the comic wasn't in the game for say but any lashing sable inquiry goes onto questions comments memories the game. No we should probably talk about the tv series that none of us knew existed and two thousand eight a mini series called thirteen the conspiracy that val cameras in. So it's not a tiny thing. I mean i guess he was huge star that point but still not a huge star. And he's on. He's like front and center the the cover. I think he's i think he plays the mongoose. I lost place on in oakland guy. Okay i'll buy and then a twenty eleven. There is a tv series that ran for twenty six episodes over two seasons just called thirteen country canada. Osu battlefield and seven seas anymore. I would look this up. Because i i go for it. It's on some site. I've never heard of called. Cw seed dot com ca. Yeah something usually doesn't mean we're going to play you to be going online. It looks like has all twenty or whatever twenty six episodes on it. So i might have to look this up. 'cause i really wanna watch this now. Can't imagine it's good. But i really looked. I mean besides. I really like the story of this game besides shitty parts. It has a good moment whether it's a movie to movie wouldn't do the justice though. I looks like a three hour. Movie came out in two thousand eight thirteen conspiracy. Yeah that's the mini series. I was talking about. Oh well i just did a little youtube thing. And there's three hour thirteen the conspiracy. Two thousand eight on their. Somebody did split across the between two parts. I am so mike. You'd be interested in watching a movie together with me here where you watching the movie coming up. We don't eat out. Another suv anybody's curious. There is three six. Two thousand eight is on youtube. Like madam ed us grew at thirteen. The comparison you'll find it. Apparently that exists there now and it's actually really good quality and in english to i was working in england or france or something else on english eggs. The two episode titles are both in french so it was like looks like the the show is also an english. Okay i'm hundred percent gonna watch this later all right. I'm really happy right now. We'll be all right. I'm gonna re. We got a lot a lot of com- we've got a mini comments for this up as for this episode as this game has an actual ending conclusion to nine to stuff your blood group. I got nothing and from the laser. Time group. I got from jack. Rodriguez dougherty david. Connie nothing further. I got a guy posting a gift of a of a tumbleweed from our marchesi love. The plot twists even love the multi-player with various modes but his lack of split screen. When online multiplayer drake down with could have had. That would have been an ad. I'm split-screen split-screen gordon adam. So it's really alienates. That's what made perfect great four player co op team with a played player with bots and then from shannon. norman love. This game excited to play in online with a. Ps team was immediately destroyed by late and he we were much too overpowered sounds yes to a liner. I even know. Ps two hat on line is because on. There is the metal gear online. That i think i tried to play once. Calm everquest so calm. while that's bringing back the old memories of a game that that will not be on the show. I don't do that and from the giant bomb group from nicholas petite. Go read the excellent series of graphic novels. Game covers the first five volumes. Out of twenty twenty three issues and is the first five volume was for five issues. But thank you nicholas because of you. I read the comic. Because i didn't know it. Just until your comment. Nice and from donald table. When does the remastered come out. I don't know sir serious but it came out last year. it sucks. currently developers apologizes. Said the covid really screwed up in the development process. But here's aren't you can only use that excuse many times and if it's a game that we weren't really expecting secret your time with it but i'm just gonna say that i would much rather wait and wait for a good game. That's polished and not buggy then pay. You said this game is coming out today. Why is it not out. you're lying. My whole thing is just well mean. I don't care because i play game soul late in life. Anyway take your sweet time. I'll play the game in four years. I don't care yeah which is unfortunately very very true for me. I don't get the games. I do a podcast. I'll have to play new games to all right about yes. I got a couple of questions. I mean i wasn't. I knew this game wasn't gonna buy this episode. Do great for us. I mean people. Thirteen i just i had to our finish this game and now you can finally say played. I beat it finished. I'm so happy. I am dot not. Let's go to offer box 'cause we should and since i already kind of almost said when i was gonna say i'll go first started talking. This is a tough one. Because i was gonna put this game in the shell for the longest time. I was kinda talk. I story was grabbing me. The game play was mostly fun when i didn't have to. You know get into a boss fight but those pause fights and this amount of damage taken. This game makes him. Put this game in the box. Because i'm knocking to recommend this to people because unless you're playing with safe states you're not going to enjoy it and twenty twenty one. You're not gonna man. This is great. You're gonna hate it in twenty twenty one because you're used to better designed games and i don't wanna play it again. I'm glad i played it. I'm glad i finished it. And i never want to see this game again in my life in in a system that i was a controller. Hansel going into box. But i'm glad we played it. How about you adam. Vina's throw the do we still have the stock option or or box but yeah focus solar. I just forgot head. Just make sure. I'm gonna say stop in the reason i'm gonna say stock is because i plan through it again. I didn't do my normal thing where i tend to hate a game that i play on the show. They used a lot I still enjoyed it. It does sell sheeting comic book. Feel so well and like like you said mike the three panels every time you get a head shot with a crossbow. It never gets old even years later. It's still intriguing. It's still finding makes me smile. I think i would recommend playing it on. Pc like i did. Where if you've been playing shooter games. The fights won't feel as difficult task. I see but maybe sometime controls might get a little weird plus if you're interested it's not like you can't play it for free. You claim that code earlier and even it happened in. Even you happen not to get the code. I think it was five or six dollars on state All yeah and that's that's a really good price for a game. That has a great story. Even though it's not finished and you get to just have fun and the bot mod alone for multiplayer. I know i'm going to go back and kill more time and not just because it's to stack so mike you're the one that has to be tiebreaker. Show oh gee. Let's see adams right like i will definitely give. It is a good game especially for early. Two thousands like if you don't look directly at character models. It's a very good-looking game. Art styles age pretty well but you could have just a delicious looking cake and it can still taste like dirt. Port just went. This game is for all those reasons. Mike just listed like it looks great it plays like as it is an optimized as well as it could have been so it is going and the deepest of boxes. Okay that's still. Hate young mike or young. Michael make you all blazer next next season. But i tried it. It's still good all that's good invasion. I if we play that next we probably will. my condolences. were sending battlecry. I hear just exuding for the reason. We're gonna play because the only reason we're going to play it. Because i can get a developer on the show with that game. Oh absolutely i can't say no. So that even though michael cry. I will probably try to with them because i'm sure it won't be fun. That's not gonna stop me for bad mouth and it's just like the last one was game is but it's okay thousand four. It's okay so that about wraps up so adamson's your guests. You want to see where people can. Actually we should interview with how we're going to talk about next week got. You're all over the place. I know i took over. I became thirteen. I can't if someone tried to pull a gun on me. I'll do anything fancy maneuver. Take another animal. Just what a chair. I just go to stand there and all right boom next week. We're playing of choice that if you read it on paper you would swear it was my ex but we are playing my choice star. Wars the force unleashed. I don't understand why you picked it. I'm happy you pick like i'm really happy to understand. Engage verson right. we can't thank you. It was on engage engage. Feel free to play that version but good luck finding engage. We are two for two recordings this weekend of mentioning the n gauge ice unleash. The force unleashed has one of the best achievements ever in the game. So yeah there. It's called on worse daytime manager. Ever if you've never seen the youtube series it's awesome but they give a little. I think it's what you start out as vader in this one right the first level you yeah okay so this one yeah. If you kill like ten stormtroopers or something in the first swap laying assume you get the achievement called war state manager ever imagine you can buy an engaged by the way for ninety dollars Let's go to taco bell if i wanted to taco are hundred fifty five or three hundred fifty nine dollars. Somebody's selling engage with a bunch of system with a bunch of games and stuff rare. Gave me bundle. He says dora. 'cause no one wants it i. There are mobile games. I wanna play. That came out that. I see that in time i will put on the show when i can get a hold of them in other ways and when we do in our top ten and gauge engage episode of you can find me way to emulate. I will we do. I mean you guess. I'll do it all right. I mean he was off your podcast again. People can find your talk games but gum. Hopefully it will be on stitcher sooner knocked later before four four. That gets but i can't remember depending on when this episode comes out where we are doing march madness madness in if it's already passed that go back and take a look at where we place in sports games. That aren't really sports games. So they're fun exactly comes out next next sunday from. Yeah then check out. March madness madness going on top teams to bubblegum right. And if you enjoyed this episode. Which i hope he did. If you're listening if you haven't forgotten that we list after listening to us talk about this game up. Please go cut off other episode. We do tons of games comics movies. We are going through the marvel. Cinematic universe right now and i should just release civil word not too long time. You're hearing this. Finally and chris uses happy somewhere where yup so definitely go check that out. I have no other game references with like this. The i got nothing. Because this isn't it medicare. Solid three was back in january. That's spy okay. I'll take that okay is author. I dunno number one but it's not long ago. So i said yeah and please give going to shelter. Awesome interim courtesy of bobby aka mike bite. The song is cool gets quite definitely. Go check him out. Ucf lincoln the youtube channel talk game she bubblegum. I will sit back for some reason. I don't know what check those enjoyed our show please from facebook. Instagram twitter and youtube. Please follow me on youtube. Because apparently i can't get accustomed area. We have hundreds of drivers. So i need more. I don't know what bill but please go follow me on their postal. All the episodes usually a couple days after they go lie. Because i forget to do but yeah so definitely go check those out and we will see you guys all next week with good game for a chain four. Good game coming up in the next next month. and i'm excited to play in talk about cadets. Stranger gave him off on a good games on on a show or week in a row. Rest of the season pretty solid. 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The Barrett Brief- Trumps Taxes, Much Ado About Nothing?

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The Barrett Brief- Trumps Taxes, Much Ado About Nothing?

"We're talking about the big news of the day. The big news of the day is that president trump and new story from the New York Times and I'm telling you. The people. In the legacy media. Are. Just loving this. Just. Trying to make it a thing, they're trying to make fetch happen here. By saying Oh, look at these residents. This one guy quote tweeted all these presidential libraries of how much money they all paid. The first year in federal taxes. Dude quotes the New York Times president trump seven, hundred, fifty we're. Okay well. I don't think you're going to really convince many people. The only people you're gonNA, convince those trump derangement syndrome. Oh by the way what was the initial reason? What was the initial initial initial initial? Reason we needed trump's taxes. Does anybody remember that because there was a? It wasn't just because Wayne ages much money president trump. Manguera. This stuff they're trying to say now that's right the original reason. was connected to who? If you guessed Russia, you're correct. That's why we needed to see the shady dealings between the Russians and resident trump. Yeah. There's nothing here looking at me doesn't pay taxes Yeah. Real good shift there I'm sure nobody's GonNa Notice. This just in rich people avoid paying taxes film at eleven. Every celebrity that's banging on trump this morning about not paying taxes have probably. DM D- Somebody in the trump administration be like, hey, man who who do use to do that. Trump central jerk hey man, can you give me his number? Right. That's how it goes. I I got a small amount of money from my father. My father passed away when my father died from his life insurance, you know what I did with it. I went to a CPA. and I got an annuity. Put it into Nudie do you know why? Because it would be tax free after a certain amount of time? Everybody plays the tax avoidance game. That's what it's. It is a sport in America. And the the wealthier you are the better coaches, I, e tax attorneys or CPA's, or whoever you can find. I know somebody that charity back CPA. My financial adviser okay. Is that better? You guys are. At the bit this morning, my financial adviser and I talked to him I was like, what should I put it in a suggested the nude and that was like fine put it in there. It's not like a huge amount of money, but if I can keep every single dime of it, I'll use it. That's why. I don't want the federal government taking any dime out of my pocket that they don't need to, and by the way, they don't need to take a lot of it. So you're not you. Owe The the Associated Press had a great one. The New York Times bombshell on trump will shatter the image that he. Used? In. His rise. Trumpet has told everybody. Trump I'm sure we I should have looked it up. There's videos in the debates about how we used bankruptcy in tax loopholes to save money. You're an idiot you are actually dumber if you give the federal government every time you have. Okay. This much. Okay. Here we go. Hi Ho. Lo. Everybody looks for any out any right off. Any Hey. I'm not road trip. Did you Did you get some food at they got? Yep We're right off to. Way Back in the day when when I was bartending I, didn't become a congressman obviously. But I was bartending with a buddy of mine and he went off to Hollywood because he was going to be an actor you've never heard of him. Good good guy though he he bought a book. And it was how to write off everything for your for your Your movie script, you write off dinners you write off pens you write off this right off that if you're an independent contractor like myself. You can look us this coffee. I drink this coffee at work V expensed. Right, would you take a road trip like when I drove to Mandeville? Every mile I drove on that I'm putting that towards my taxes next year. That's why avoiding taxes is an American sport. It's a pathetic because we shouldn't have this many taxes and I don't WanNa hear taxes are price to pay to live in a civil society because last time I checked in twenty twenty. We don't live in in civil society doing black lives matter running about the countryside. Destroying and causing chaos and death and and fear bats not a civilized society. ANTIFA. causing the exact same thing. That's not what I would call. A civil society. and. Let's not forget ladies and gentlemen. The single greatest indicator that we do not live. In a civil society, it's a six, hundred, thirty, nine, thousand, seven, hundred, and ninety abortions that have taken place in this country this year. So let's so miss me what the nonsense of charges are. For Zobel. We ain't living in a civil society right now. But now, this, this is once again. A pathetic attempt by the legacy media and the democratic establishment to go after guys taxes. Well, he every other candidate has released their taxes before show me in the constitution. Under article to. Article. Yeah. I believe it's article to. Where the presidency's outlined where the taxes must be presented. Not. There so okay. There's no reason for it by the way like I said before it was supposed to be released. So we can find out all those shady deals with the Russians. Yeah Even. If you were ever to find out if you're ever to sit down with a millionaire or a billionaire and they told you about some of the stuff. That, you can write off tax you know. shady schemes about reporting or It's absolutely insane. This idea that trump's tax avoidance he's growing the American people out of money. Well actually technically the federal government taking my money. There's quote. Unquote screwing me. Out of money. Because your. Garnishing my wages essentially with social security tax payroll tax The other taxes that are on your paycheck. That we all have to pay. So. Of course, we're gonNA find ways to get out of it. And Yeah just let me know during the break the New York Times didn't make trump's tax records available because they. Didn't want to you know essentially out there source. So. You're not even seeing. His taxes you're seeing what somebody is reporting. On which means things are going to get picked and choose. Picked and chosen and put in a certain order to do what to influence you into thinking. That president trump did something wrong oh, he didn't say how much money guy lost money by being president by the way Joe Joe Biden. Lee Joe Biden. You how much money he paid in federal income tax in two, thousand, seventeen, three, million. Seven, hundred, forty, two, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, four dollars. and. Of course, they're saying he paid this much and trump paid seven fifty hold on a second what Joe? Biden do in two thousand seventeen to earn what amount of money did he earn in order to have to pay three million dollars? Or? Three million dollars in taxes because the last time I checked the vice-presidency the united. States doesn't pay that much money. You would have to pay and I'm sure that Joe Biden has not sold enough books. Having to do with books. Has Sold enough books to warrant a three million dollar price tag in federal income taxes. Oh. He he filed jointly with his spouse. Oh I didn't know that Joe Biden was pulling down the money in that relationship. What are we talking about? Blue Collar guy from Scranton. No, I. Think the three million you paid. In federal income. Tax Joe is more than the combined gross income of scrutton in two thousand seventeen. Right. The same way they're all the same way the amount of money and they're and these idiots in the media I repeat myself I apologize are running around being like, oh, they all paid so much money trump pay anything. Yeah how did they make that money? Because last time I checked public servants. Are Not supposed to be paid. Backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Or put in your you know the starting point guard for the Los Angeles Lakers a sports figure who makes money before anybody corrects me. There's supposed to be selfless public servants. But. They're not and the crazy thing is the guy who paid the least amount of taxes is the one who actually gave up a salary to be president the one who actually lost money in office. But yet, he's the greedy one. He's the one who's holding out on the American people.

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Thursday Red Pill Diaries-The Cancelling Of Dr. Seuss Is A Pretty Good Indicator That Cancelling Christianity Is Next

Mike Church Presents-The Red Pill Diaries Podcast

13:56 min | Last month

Thursday Red Pill Diaries-The Cancelling Of Dr. Seuss Is A Pretty Good Indicator That Cancelling Christianity Is Next

"Moments ago right now. Thirty three of the top fifty books on shammas on our dr seuss. I'd be surprised if anything like this earth has ever ever happened before. Up in hill emphasis. Mine what are people doing. your doctor. suess we'll by. Dr seuss has ever been printed you jerks ladies and gentlemen this is the textbook classic definition of and i know clasroom now since no one bothered to answer my question and it was a thrilling question at the end of last hour every single one. He be snoring and snoozing out there. What was the last major. You know what i better. a buddy. Listening on shortwave and nicaragua nosy answer t welcoming all. You're listening anywhere across all you. Human beings listening in across the universe on shortwave. Radio five eight to five zero kilohertz. Welcome in you. What was the last great. I kinda clasroom. And what were the effects whereas most people don't even know what in kind of classroom is. I'll have to explain it to you. John davidson and as this anti federalist dot com About bubba bubba. Where are you. I know it's in here cities. I know it's in here. Just it is. I know it's in here There we go all the way down at the bottom so pilots heavy today. The cancelation of dr seuss should disturb you. Because your next and he talks about that. This is a coming iconoclasm. So what was the last great iconoclasm. What was the result of it. This really is a great question And mid is o'connell who is not prone to throwing compliments my way early in the morning even when never heard that ever thought of it like that but yeah this will make eminent total sense to you people. What was the last great. Kinda class. Previous to dr seuss iconoclast. Let's go to our contestants and see anyone if anyone has gotten the final crusade jeopardy question correct let us go to and let us go to allah conus in the chat room. Alec says is the latin liturgy. Ooh very close ally conus. How much did you wager. ooh all of it. Sorry you're out let us now go. Foghorn leghorn says king dude. what is chick filet. I know close by that much so close and he. He wagered at all as well now even though she didn't give us an answer. Let's go to shannon and see what that chick said and the answer is oh no salary size or you're all wrong now. Oh good answers. They're not. I of classrooms mckanna. Classroom destroys icons physical visible tangible. Icons the last great. Like i say great terrible horrible. Iconoclasm was the aftermath of the second vatican council aiming duffy wrote a book about the sacking of the altars. This was during the time of henry. The eighth it happened again. Nineteen seventy two nine hundred sixty a to mid eighties. Maybe to nineteen ninety. The destruction was almost complete merely every church in the entire united states. If it was not a cathedral the bishop's didn't hang his hat there and was not a tourist place or a landmark that was a basilica every single altar. Rail was destroy. Communion rails destroyed high altar smashed with sledgehammers beautiful statues ronin burned crushed. Vatican council's aftermath. What's the most horrific sense the quote. Deformation close quote my impo sense. The sixteenth century and look at the destruction morally and inside catholicism catholic church and thus christianity as i say we got a lot of listeners almost half that are evangelical protestant denominations and we all respect one another and your point of view And then us when we talk about well. Do we do pray for you to convert most of you even of your Southern baptist which supposedly we southern baptists hate. Catholics shouldn't hate anyone dude and certainly shouldn't hate a catholic in any event understand. You do not want the catholic church to go the way of the edsel. It will not bear out well for the human race and that means the end is near because crisis pulled the plug on like all right second judgments coming you know what the iconoclasm after the second vatican council destroyed it went after the beauty that is the faith and the practice of it and brother andrea. Marie and i talked about it yesterday. The sacred artworks are making a massive comeback because the iconoclasm tried to destroy them. Look at these. Haiti is buildings that they built and called them. Catholic churches. heck. I've got to go to a couple of them right here. In mandeville louisiana his a beautiful beautiful basilica our lady of the lakes one of the oldest buildings in his entire built just after the war of northern aggression. Magnificent hundred seventy feet tall all the way to defeat giant belltower the whole the bells and whistled everything. You know what they did. During the iconoclasm they destroy the beautiful communion rail. They destroyed the pipe organ. They they mauled it to pieces melted. Do it on the curb to be thrown away. They destroyed the high altar. Pulled it down with crowbars. It was almost like a mad orgy. A sex orgy. This was repeated and think that michael matt at the remnant actually has a film out about the iconoclasm and the gleeful joyful demonic destruction of the churches. And then what are. They put up in their place. These hideous churches in around that was an iconoclasm. What was the result. The sex revolution got a steroidal boost because the church went way go. Hey hands off. Pow church withdrew and was with drawing until somewhere around shortly after the big major pre scandal. At the turn of the century or the millennia and then something clicked and people went. Wait a minute wait. Wait wait wait wait. This is not the catholic church. It isn't this is some demonic perversion of catholicism and a church and it needs to stop many good men and many good women began working to restore the beauty day began with the faith and ultimately they made their way back because you had to find artisans and the holy ghost had to work to those artisan had to go. Yeah i want you to stop painting that porn and sculpting all that stuff that You know who wants to buy. And i want you to get back to making sacred art online asking. I'm telling the iconoclasm of the late sixties all the way through the mid eighties. That destroyed may attempted to destroy all of those beautiful look. There was a woman that was on this show. Jeremy if you're listening you know what i'm talking about. We tried to help her. We tried to save. What was the name. Church philadelphia saint. Oh gosh the people that were going there. Infrastructures built in the eighteen seventies. Beautiful unbelievable beauty. They wanted to turn it into an apartment complex and at laurentian saint lawrence and the fateful laurentians a group. Maybe a hundred souls used to be seven eight thousand two thousand families in this parish. Jeremy and fish town they lost the iconoclasm came and took out saint lawrence. It's gone it's a flea market or an apartment complex now. Absolute sh- raggedy remember one of the One of the prisoners founded do that had a drone camera drone right before they were having the vote with the society of filthadelphia to try to get the water intervene. And tell the diocese. You can't destroy that building. It's historical monument. What did they do what they do. They flew that drone they fluid past a hundred and ten foot tall stained glass windows. That you need a scaffold to get to. The top of the show was there. They show up at the top of the bell tower. They did all that and it was too late. That's the iconoclasm. I've talking about showing john. Daniel davidson says dr seuss has been cancelled. Some of his work has been deemed racist. And he can't have that. We can't have that on tuesday the entity that oversees the estate of theodor geisel announce it would no longer publish six guys books because learn portraying people in ways that are hurtful and wrong among the works now deemed then. He gives the list of the works. There's not much point. And quibbling over whether these and other such illustrations into contend schuss books are in fact racist or bigoted or weather guys who held racist or xenophobic views by all accounts he was a liberal minded and tolerant man who hated nazis and as political cartoonist mocked the anti-semitism. That was all too common. America during world war two but context and nuance don't factor into the antics horrible logic of the woke lift. I see Our friend from Mirror mike from restoring fate. Hang on a second bro. You're gonna wanna talk about this. What's important understand is that this isn't simply about banning six. Dr seuss books. All of geisel's work is in the judgment of left-wing academia and exercise in quote white supremacy paternalism conformity and it might be easy for conservatives to laugh that austin office nonsense but they shouldn't because this really isn't even about geisel There's a predictable pattern to what we're seeing now. It's predictable because it has happened before much the same way it's happening now. During china's cultural revolution of the sixties and seventies the ccp at the direction of mao call for the destruction of the four olds all customs old culture. Old habits old ideas. All of those don't have mouse socialist ideology so they had to be destroyed. This is another word and iconoclasm.

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Laura Maly and Michael Anderson on Marketing Effectiveness (DHD76)

The Dental Hacks Podcast

13:55 min | 2 years ago

Laura Maly and Michael Anderson on Marketing Effectiveness (DHD76)

"You've seen it on Facebook and Instagram really good ground bridge, really beautiful tooth preparations. Whether they're crown preparations are on the really nice stuff in a lot of them have in common. One thing. They're polish. The preparations are polished, or at least someone used a very fine diamond to get them to look smooth, really smooth. And really pretty you know, how you do that subur- that macropod dental has called the three one one six point eight it's a round and taper. And it's a very fine diamond. I'm not gonna lie. I call the yellow shampoo in my office. I'm not sure that the natural Sanford's around taper. But the bottom line is it's for polishing website's for right before. I'm ready to impression or scan makes them look gorgeous. I like using this a lot more than I like like using polisher. You can get it in all the places that polish doesn't fit makes your preparations. Look like the one to see on Instagram. I'm not even kidding. If you wanna see what I'm talking about. Check it out at dental hacks dot com. Slash diamond. Finisher, very fine. Grit yellow round and taper Burmese every prep. Look gorgeous microscopic a new birth. Every time. Welcome to the dental hacks. Daily dental heck's podcast so short, you can listen to it on the way to work. Dental hacks nation. Welcome back to another dental hacks daily, we're gonna particular deep dive on a focused topic. And with us today. Again, we have Laura Maili and Michael Anderson from the wondrous agency how you guys doing. Get your names. Right. This time. Yes. I'm horrible. I could write them down. But why do that? It's it's like on a tight rope without a net. When you when you roll with that? But any I'm sorry. Go ahead. So I am really excited to you guys are gonna be actually, you know, this this will probably becoming out right after the voice dentistry. So let's pretend like we all had a really great time. And it was the best meeting. We've ever had wasn't the voice of dentistry. Awesome. You guys. It was amazing trend. Sorry. I'm sorry. We were talking about often testing that's a big fat lie. So actually what we what we were what we're going to talk about on this episode. I think is very important topic for for dentists who do marketing in their practice because a lot of times dentists as we mentioned before just want to write the check and marketing companies love that because they can literally deliver no results in dentist would never know. So you were talking about how do you track marketing results in what what do you feel like the marketing dental marketing has been like in how it should be? Yeah. This this is just such a pain points. I think about for the last six years into the conversations you have with countless clients that come to frustrated on the in many ways, you know, we start out sort of doing like, we have the same problem at a lot of dentists, do, you know, a lot of patients come to Dennis mid had bad experiences. Other other dental offices trust has been lost in. And as marketers. I think we have a similar story often. And the number one thing we hear people say I keep reading check. And I don't know if it's working they're not even say, maybe maybe not I don't know. And so we've really had to spend a lot of time making sure that we have parade practices in place to to know. So we know our combine snow in so wanna share a couple of our sort of best practices. But before we talk about how attracting the one thing we have to I pod. Dennis skip over in that understanding what your goals are. So thing I think most Dennis should do is really make sure that they their sound in their business numbers. And they have an idea of how many new patients they? Liked to get. And here's the other big one. This is the million dollar question. What is the lifetime value of patient to you a lot of our dentist? Get hung up on will when they come in the door. You know, it's maybe three hundred dollars for cleaning or whatever it is. That's the value that patient, and it shouldn't be we should really be looking at. If we get a patient adore. How long will retain them for? And what do we think the average lifetime value is? So we can start to decide what a good investment or what a good cost for acquisition would be for that patient. So so that's where things have to start before we really start to look at how attracted and you'd be amazed. How many doctors here from us at wonder stage for the first time when they get on a followed us for their monthly reporting. What their performance was the month prior to hear from us verse when he's raised 'cause we're getting cheated fed to us front desk. So so tackling that internally on your end of things as a doctor is of utmost importance Europe is where do you get that data from the honest. I mean, like are you guys using a particular dashboard, or is it is? That you diving into their Brachman software. What where do you get that information? We have some forms that they fill out every single month so production collections. Total patient seeing new patients in days open are the numbers that we asked for from them every month. And I would say majority of our clients do provide it regularly because value working with the numbers in having that full circle connection between what we're doing what they are doing an accountability goes both ways. And so so we really enjoy that kind of relationship with our doctors, you know, as a marketing agency is so central to know that otherwise it's hard for us to know. Are we doing our job? And so I would say that's not a red flag for no listening marketing agencies not asking you that got to ask yourself. How do they know their job? No, I would say this. What dentists has I really want this number of patients when in reality. The I want all of the patients all of the time like that's and so in some ways a marketing agency can probably get away with that a little bit. Because if they deliver anything, it's. More than what the what the practice was experiencing. So it seems good to start with put over time. Like that. I mean, that's when you really have to start measuring if you were never measuring before just measuring bring some results on its own. Would you agree? Yeah. I think so I think that. Hum going from place where you got your finger in the wind in you feel like something's happening to actually sort of seeing. What's what's? What's being tracked in growth? So I'm I interested though, too. So then what's what's your next step from there? How do you? How else do you measure what? What successes? Yeah. So the next key thing that that you need when you're when you're doing any kind of marketing is is call track. So call tracking something we've talked about from the beginning anyone. That's listening to us talk with border is gonna know this is important, and and you need to do it across all of your campaign. So hopefully, a lot of listeners are kind of nodding their heads anything yet contracting. I've done that with direct mail. You know, you you get a postcard you put a slightly different number than your practice number on it the ascended out if anyone calls that it automatically redirects to your practice. The person calling has the same experience that normally would. But we get a little metric that says we got team calls from that direct mail or twenty calls fifty calls on very frequently with call tracking. You can listen to those calls. So you can not only serve get number. You can get a quality score. But where it gets way more advanced is. You can do this online. You can do on your website at a piece of code your website. That's going to dynamically. And that's the key thing. Dynamically change the number based on where people come from someone comes from Facebook. They see the Facebook number. If someone comes from Google, they see the Google number and you can start to see where people wear new patients coming from. And ultimately that gives you a lot of information on what campaigns are working. And you know, I think just as important what campaigns are not worth marketers don't often want to say, hey, stuff doesn't work. And that's the case. I love the tell you that everything we didn't works doesn't. I think we really are good at is finding things don't work in turning it off. And that's that's just as important because you don't go year two years five years spending money on something. That's not working takes humility honestly to in probably stuff that worked in one practice. Doesn't work in another BRAC Salou absolute. Young tracking is tracking is a sore spot for me as a podcast or the numbers. The metrics that we have are limited. Like, no matter. No matter what any podcast it says. They've really got it figured out it, probably lying, whatever statistics. You get. It's it's pretty slim pickings. But like what's interesting to me is that even within the podcasting space. We can we can track to see we we can track a certain amount by interactivity in by by like engagement, for instance, if we put a call to action out on the podcast, only and not on the Facebook, something like that. We know that that definitely came from the podcast because we didn't say anything within the Facebook group, and it it sort of a similar thing. But what's frustrating is is the amount of information. You can actually get as podcasters relative limited face the number. We live by is called downloads. Well, download doesn't tell you. If it was listened to at all, it doesn't tell you listen to partially. Doesn't tell you. It doesn't tell you who download it doesn't tell you anything three frustrating. I feel like marketing has gotten. That's the way marketing was a while ago. And it's gotten better in marking. Would you agree? I would agree. I actually think marketing has the opposite problem now. So what dentists are going to say they're going to say, I get too much. I don't even know someone just spits. This report out. It's got one hundred things on it. I know I really tried hard. The first time I walked through to to know what it all means. I just don't do this every day. I don't know what's up. And so, you know, understanding those key metrics KPI's is so crucial. And I just wanna take a couple minutes to go through just five. So there's some common marketing campaigns out there. One of them is going to be SEO. Right everybody. Everybody, you know, still knows as ios important one show up high into the search results. People spend lots of money on this. And then kind of dissolves into this black hole of I don't know what's going on. But I think it's working. So there's kind of two. Three things you really wanna look for one is make sure that you're getting a keyword report. You wanna see keywords that are being tracked and you wanna see over time where their rankings. You don't wanna just sort of say, for example, dental implants in Mandeville, which is where we were just shooting is number one. That's great. But where was a month ago where was it six weeks ago? You know, how has this keyword changed? You wanna be able to see that? And then the other big thing is wants to say, we'll if that keyword has been increasing. What should that mean? And the next thing you wanna look at his website traffic because it keywords are increasing Bemis more disability. That means you should see more people coming to website. And here's one of the things that agencies will do to try to tricky. Sometimes they will show you your website traffic, and it's all traffic. It's all the channels. It's it's organic it's paid its referral. It's all these channels mixed together. You don't wanna look at that. What you wanna ask what you say? How much traffic am I getting from organic? Search and you should see that going up. And then of course, you should ask. How many phone calls getting more Ganic search? That's one example of how you want to see different metrics relating to other. That's it's tough because I do agree that that in that sense. It would be overwhelming to Dennis who's trying to run a practice. So it's almost like you need someone like you guys to explain just give me the beat just give me the basics. And that's that's all I would need. I think that's reality to implicit. We're getting we're getting all that stuff from from accounts. Getting that stuff from. Like from everywhere. So it is it's important to know the important stuff in what's not important in and more importantly, if if you're working with the wonders agency, they're going to tell you what they're going to help you understand what's important, and they're also going to do the measurement for you. I guess part of it is just dentists that that feel like they can do their marketing on their own might be able to. But, but frankly, I think it might pay to work with someone who actually this is what they do. And that's what you guys do even doing it for you said six years six. That's I mean in the dental space a lifetime, basically. Grizzled veterans at this point. So. One week from right now as we are you'll be at the voice dentistry. I'm curious how you found out about the boys dentistry. We're we're podcast geeks ourselves. And so we're kind of always in the no, we're both social media nerds too. So we just kinda get a land and see what's interesting to us, and we like to travel we like to explore new stuff in. So we saw you guys were nearby because we're based out of San Diego, Phoenix Hopkin Johm. So really we can go to that. And so we're we're still responsible oversight about very cleaning. So you've been how how long you've been listening to dental podcast. Santeria since the beginning. That's pretty cool. I mean, there's there's been a few of them that have been out there for for that long to that's fantastic. And to be honest. You'll get to meet him all the voice. So very cool. Thank you so much for being on you guys. If people have questions or comments wanna find out more about the wonders agency. How do they how do they in touch with you? Yeah. You can go to wonder agency dot com and above the fold. There is a button that says chat with Laura and you can click that and find some time for us to connect on the phone networks for you. I am we are traveling low at right now my schedule's a little hectic, but I was invite you to to take some time with me and weaken to check very good. Thank you guys for being on. We appreciate it. Thanks to that's all for your dental hacks daily, be sure to listen to the dental hacks every Friday and be sure to subscribe to us on I tunes questions or comments, Email us at info at dental hacks dot com and be sure to head over to dental hacks dot com for the latest and greatest dental con. Tent?

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Barrett Breif 05/03/2018

The Veritas Radio Network Preview Channel

56:30 min | 3 years ago

Barrett Breif 05/03/2018

"Well, good afternoon where the friend this is the briefing grew channel. King says truth from radio's ass beakers coming at you live from the Republic of Texas. I'm your host Rick Barrett, eight four four or five to seven eight seven two three is the number. If you wanna give me a call during the course of this show if there is anything you want to talk about during any of the issues and things that are brought up in call me at anytime. We can stop and talk to you. I'd actually prefer it. If you guys did, I also be reached a couple of other ways via the electric Email at Barrett brief gmaiLcom on Twitter at Barrett, brief and also broadcasting Barrett. I can also be found on the gab Dada, which I finally got back on that is also under broadcasting Barrett, and you can find me on Instagram at RTP underscored to. We are at the start of a new week. So we have a new virtue of the week, and that is faith, and it is without faith. It is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists, and that he rewards those who earn ously seek him. So as we go through today's stories and topics, and things like that, when you do remember that we are living in a fallen world. And that any solutions that are proposed that act or demand government step in or anything like that is really just a secular solution. Nenette is a short term fix now on tap for the reef today during the bulls. We're gonna take a look at stories from cross the news spectrum. We're going to get down to brass tacks in regards to the connection between mental illness, and violence Grinberg is going to go against the liberation. I'm sorry, liberation, theology and. And the city, of course, Canada's got me saying, you gotta be kidding me. So let's break down a brief. Burst up. The first story that we always do the first thing we always look at, and that is the number of abortions that have taken place in the United States, and the world as of right now because we are living in the greatest genocide of our time and we need to keep ourselves aware of that. So as of right now, we're at sixty four thousand seven hundred and eight today, putting us at our worldwide total of seven million one hundred and forty four thousand eight hundred and forty four. So just remember that ladies and gentlemen, impre to Our Lady for an end to abortion. We have a national debt of twenty trillion eight hundred fifty two billion five hundred eighty eight million. I'm not going to give you the other ones because I won't be able to keep up with those numbers, but that is your generalized or your overall national debt that we are dealing with today. Now, let's get through the story today the story of the day looks to be from variety, and it is Oscar's on pays for new low in early numbers. Live. You're ship of the ninth annual kademi awards ceremony was down significantly from the twenty seventeen telecast between a PM and eleven PM portion of the ABC telecast averaged an eighteen point nine household rating, any thirty to share in the Nielsen metered market overnight ratings which covered about seventy percent of US hops olds as that about sixteen percent from the twenty two point five thirty seven ratings generated by the 2017 Oscars. Now immigrants me that watch last night. Coyote is kind of know what I did is I watched a live cast of a comedian who is just sitting around making fun of it, and it was good. Background noise for me while I was getting some work done that needed to take need to set the table for the week. So I didn't really watch. In addition, my favorite films of the year weren't even close to nominated. It was it was wind river. If you haven't seen win river, I highly highly suggest you see, it is fantastic. Nick, but everything else it's all bunch of nonsense, really what I should have done today, Grinberg bear was breakdown, how they actually go through the Oscar process, because it's not actually about. Setting up these films, and then everybody voting it's actually how much money is thrown at the academy, pre nomination and then pre award show. I think a, a heard the average was eight hundred thousand dollars was spent in advertising to the kademi before the nominations happened and then average of about one and a half million after on the lead up to the award ceremony. So it's really nothing more than advertisement money and wait to shell out cash for these films that apparently nobody wants to watch because none of them are any good. So that's your, that's your update right now on the officers and I don't think it's going to get much better. They're trying to give I don't know who they're trying to give hope but they're trying to just for time zones and then with DVR's, plus threes is not going to be good, no matter what. But I'll ask you, did you want to were there other ver. Versions, I know Rosie o'donald was live tweeting last night. I don't know if anybody was following her instead, give me a call for four five three seven eight seven two three in the world of politics from ABC news. The latest, I'm sorry, not AP. It's AP news. The latest Trump is not backing down on tariffs. President Trump said, quote, we are not backing down, unquote, on his push to impose tariffs on imported steel and aluminum despite criticism from fellow Republicans. The president said this during an Oval Office meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Any says that he doesn't expect to have a trade war, as a result of his push to crack down on a flood of steel imports. The president spoke after a spokesperson for White House. I'm sorry, not White House about how speaker Paul Ryan said, the speaker was extremely worried about the consequences of a trade war. And urged the White House to not advance on this plan. Well, unfortunately, Mr Ryan, it looks like this is going to do this. No matter what anybody says. For the clear reason might take is that he is trying to fulfill a campaign promise for better or for worse. He wants to be able to go back to the rust belt in two years, two and a half years and say, I'm fighting for you. I'm putting tariffs on all this foreign steel in foreign aluminum and so forth in order to, to get jobs back here and so forth and make America great and slogans Logan slogan. But it is interesting to see the pushback from all sources. I know the EU threatened they've already come out and said they threatened three point seven billion. I believe in tariffs back to the United States, if this goes through, and then you have more establishment business friendly conservatives like Paul Ryan, who are trying to push back on this idea because of the potential repercussions that go on down the line, you even have some people who are writing articles right now who are trying to compare these tariffs and the impact these Arabs potentially to what happened before the great depression, where they they are blaming. I think it's a smooth Hartley tariffs, if I'm wrong pleased, we'd or call eight four four five seven eight seven two three. Those tariffs base. A are the original or a primary reason for the great depression, when that's just a very simple simplified version or simplified explanation for. For it. But as we've talked about before people are going to use whatever they can to try and get rid of or try to discredit this idea, even if it is a terrible idea. It looks like it's a pretty terrible idea. And there's no there's no check on it because the president can can impose tariffs, whenever he wants which is why you shouldn't put all your faith hope and trust in the federal government, because stuff like this happens. Who do you think blink? I think Trump will actually back down. Now, their reports that are coming out that saying he's using this whole thing to get Mexico and Canada to deal on NAFTA. What do you think? Eight four four or five three seven eight seven two three. In business news from CNN dot com. Amazon wants to be your Bank to Amazon's is said to be in talks with J, P Morgan, Chase Capital, One and other banks and financial service firms about setting up an Amazon brandit checking account for its customers. According to the Wall Street Journal. Now, the Wall Street Journal said that talks are initial, and that nothing may actually come from them. The stories also scant on details about what exactly Amazon might offer beyond checking accounts. So. Doot, eventually, do one of two things is going to happen, or maybe both things happen. People are going to get sick of Jeff Bezos, and all his nonsense, and his his demands for tax breaks, and all of this ever consuming blob that he's trying to create or be they're going to line up and get tattoos on their tattoos barcodes on their forearm. So that way they can be a part of the amazingness that they feel as Amazon. Amazon's presence is expanding all over the place. They have. Staff lists. Meaning there's nobody in these grocery stores where you just walk in with Amazon barcode in their only in Seattle right now. Walking with your barcode. You take what you want Scana barcode and scan as you leave. So it is a complete and utter attempt by Mr. Mr. Bezos to just eliminate human, contact marinade. The guy is probably germophobic or something of that nature, where he just doesn't wanna touch anybody. How far is far for this guy? He's ever expanding expanding I know last week, I talked about him actually taking or buying over the ring company, not the ring like the Lord of the rings from talking about the ring doorknob camera. He's buying that, he's, he's now looking to, to create a Bank, and, you know, there will be people that are super excited about this because they are all about everything Amazon all the time. But the idea is how far is too far? Do you think to our Hino? Call me up if you're lining up for that barcode that they can tattoo. So that way, you don't have to fiddle around with that, nasty one click purchase eight four four five seven eight seven two three. You are listening to the brief crusade channel fee. Drinking says through through radio size speakers right now we're in the Bolton and we're talking about stories from across the spectrum, and I want to know what you think about any of these stories, you can give me a call. Four five seven eight seven two three moving on to international news. From Reuters vote in South Africa's parliament moves land reform closer, South Africa, took a step on Tuesday to hasten the transfer of land from white to black owners when parliament backed a motion, seeking to change the constitution to allow land. Land taking without compensation. The ruling African National Congress or ANC has long promised reforms to redress radical disparities in land ownership and subject remains highly emotion emotional more than two decades, after the end of apartheid, white still own most of South Africa's land following centuries of brutal, colonial dispossession now, the situation in South Africa. Besides the fact that they're running out of water is almost unfathomable, arm believable. When they talk about in the story that white still own most of South Africa's land. That's because in South Africa. These white farm owners can trace their lineage all the way back up to the Dutch settlers that got their hundreds of years ago, these people who work, these lands actually know what to do. And it's been shown when you take these lands from these people doesn't matter if there were black take these these lands from people who know what they're doing, and you just give them to another group without any kind of training or any kind of experience, the people who have given their lands, or have had their land taken and given to black South Africans. They actually ruin these farms because they don't know how to tend them. But they're going to have to have their land taken from them. If this goes through the rest of the actual parliamentary process that they have down there. And I pretty sure it's going to happen, because this is something that has been a goal of the systems or these parties since they took power. And really, it's not for any other reason. But because the Dutch settlers are white, and it is something to kin of this needs to be done to make everything better in the name of equality or to fix the centuries of brutal. Brutal colonial dispossession as they say, in the article. Melanie ask you have you heard anything about what's going on in South Africa? Or is this, the first furtive you may call it four or five three seven eight seventy three. In religious news from church. Militant California gender. Affirming loss strips, parental rights, a new set of laws will result in taking away, parental rights enforcing the gauge and the most vulnerable children and adults. California's Bill AB, two one nine with legislate, only gender affirming healthcare into the states foster care system. In addition to quote strategies to increase family acceptance unquote, this Bill allows for the use of puberty blocking drugs as well as cross sex, hormones, and cosmetic surgery on children who are actually in the foster care system. This same law bans, any attempt aimed at aligning or non miners dependent assigned sex at birth and gender, identity unquote. And that's the end of the article. Now folks, slowly, but surely, we this glob of supposed- independent states that is been strapped together and call the nation. Is the culture within this, quote, nation unquote is giving away our children to the state more and more people are more than happy to sign up for this. And even people who don't sign up for this. It's happening to them. I did a couple of weeks back highlighted a story from Ohio about the girl who was suing her parents for emotional distress because they would not call her a he. And guess what the follow-up is the, the state supreme court sided with the child strip the, the parents of any rights of any custody rights. And now you have the state of California, literally pushing in or adopting a gender affirming ideology within their healthcare system. Contrast this with the fact that in states, like Georgia, they just passed a law that allowed. Adoption agencies to actually deny couples. Homosexual couples the ability of Dopp kids and how the left is throwing fit upon fit upon fit about that. But yet they come back and say, we'll state can allow this gender affirming healthcare to, to foster acceptance. Well, these kids in these programs these kids in these foster homes. They're so desperate for any kind of attention, or any kind of hope that they're going to they're going to swallow whatever you put in front of them. So this is an actual despicable attempt by the state to literally take advantage of the most vulnerable those who will not speak out against it because they have no choice. You don't think it can happen to you? You don't think your state will be able to actually adopt aside here? You don't think that they would imprint that into your system might wanna be careful? They'll do a right under your nose. Eight four four five seven eight seven two three in culture from the register UK Facebook, founder, calls, trusted unit users, quote, dumb blanks. You can fill it in there. Lovable. Facebook founder, Mark Zuckerberg called his first few thousand users, quote, dumb blanks, unquote for trusting him with their data published in instant message transcriptions Facebook is duplicated hasn't disputed the authentic the authenticity of these transcripts. Of course, the founder was nineteen and he may have been joking. However, even the article says humor tells you a lot. The article goes on to say that Facebook's data stash is regarded as something quite special. It's offense gated against a real person in the user tends to be over. Thirty five middle class, the ideal demographic for selling high value goods and services. Now, culturally, Facebook as a huge impact on everything that we do. How we live, and if you don't believe me, you can just talk to your local democratic progressive about how crucial they feel that Facebook was in twenty sixteen election. So it is very important culturally to see how the founder thinks of you. Now, speaking of somebody who has said many dumb thing throughout the course of my life. I would give him a pass. Maybe he was joking and confidence in. Maybe it's the idea that when you're starting accompany, the three people that you need investments from the three EPs friends, family and fools. So maybe he was just thinking about that. I can't believe these people are letting me take their data and I don't even know this is gonna work, but based on how he feels about other other areas and his social Justice philosophy. I don't think that this, this thought has strayed too far from how he thinks now and just remember you and I make him ridiculous ridiculously wealthy with our data. So could you live without Facebook? Gimme gaudy for four or five to seventy seven to three. From Pew Research poll, millennials, projected to overtake baby boomers as America's largest generation now, America's are on the I'm sorry, not Americans, but millennials on the cusp of surpassing baby boomers as the nation's largest living adult generation, according to the population projections from the US census bureau. As of July first twenty sixteen the latest date for which population estimates are available millennials, who the Pew Research Center defines as between the ages of twenty to thirty five twenty sixteen numbered, seventy one million and the baby boomers aged fifty to seventy numbered seventy four million millennials are expected to overtake boomers population in twenty nineteen as their numbers. Swell to seventy three ambers declined to seventy two generation X. That would be ages. Thirty six to fifty one in two thousand sixteen is projected to pass baby boomers in population by twenty twenty eight. Now, if you're always confused about how these generations, I find this or that because I've heard him from different ways to here is how the Pew Research Center breaks them down there. Born between nineteen eighty one to nineteen Ninety-six that's put them between tween twenty and thirty six which is unfortunate for me. Because that puts me right at the beginning of it being thirty six years old myself. So. To everybody older than me. I guess I will apologize for all millennials out there. Generation X is born between nineteen sixty six and nineteen eighty now be thirty six to fifty one, and then baby boomers would be defined as nineteen forty six to nineteen sixty four between the ages of fifty to seventy now millennials are supposed to overtake baby boomers, which is obvious because older generations die out. That's how it works. But based on how millennials think which is based on emotion and have act in how they are. How they've been spoon fed most of their lives and so forth, does that bother you generation's going to be the largest generation, eight four four or five seven eight seven two three. And lastly in the bulletin from Gallup poll of the day in the US pot of positive attitudes towards foreign trade, stay high Americans increasingly positive you of foreign trade has stabilized after spiking last year. Strong majority of US adults. It'd be seventy percent. See foreign trade is an opportunity for US economic growth through increase exports, rather than a threat to the economic rather than a threat to the economy from foreign imports that will be twenty five percent before last year. No one more than fifty eight percent had held the positive view of trade now this is very interesting because what Trump is running on to put these tariffs on these foreign countries because they are, you know, terrible deals and blah, blah, blah and all his other rhetoric. So it's very interesting to see that. According to dig Alip that most people have a pretty positive attitude of foreign trade, and this clashing of this idea versus what Trump is preaching will be very interesting. Now it will be in. I would like to see in the next. Next time we have to actually let the tariffs go in and take a fact but I would like to see how this view will be impacted by the actual placing of the tariffs, and it will be very, very interesting to look at that, concludes the bulletin we are going to now move on to Brest tax because this is the Babri from the crusade, gentle, be drinking zest from radioside speakers. You can give me a call for four or five to seventy seven to three. If you wanna give me if you wanna talk to me about anything that actually was covered in the bulletin during today. Next up, we are going to get down to brass, tacks. We were going to cut through the noise and the nonsense that is being shouted by all sides, right? And left to give you both sides of the argument so that you can be formed as possible today. I wanted to take a look at the correlation between mental illness and violent behavior, and it's actually very current because I was just shown an article from the Los Angeles Times that states clearly there is a link between mass shootings and mental illness. Now while I'm reading this article, if you want to jump in and give me a dog in your opinion, new, your viewpoint. You can give me a call. Four five seven eight seven two three and I'm gonna ask you this question while we go through your answer may change depending on how we start do you feel there is a correlation between mental illness and violent behavior eight four four five six seven eight seven two three. Now, the Genesis of this, this brass tacks was a tweet by my favorite little activist Mr David Hogg, who tweeted out a week ago, quote can, we agree that if you are mentally, and mentally ill individual, you shouldn't be able to get a weapon, unquote? And I'm actually going to will let me read my beginning statements, then I'll kind of Lincoln Los Angeles time article sixty vents in parkland. We have heard a lot of people say that this was mentally ill. It was crazy. It was an insane person, blah, blah, blah, all kinds of stuff term his way. And there has been broad support from various polls that everybody's in favor of keeping gung out of the hands of quote, people with mental issues. But the problem with this that I see is. That's very easy response. We're gonna get this other article here too. And that prompts the question which I asked before you can answering gimme holiday for four or five three seven eight seventy three. Is there an actual correlation between mental illness in violence? Now, I'm going to be my findings and research into the house is going to be based on a published paper in world psychiatry in two thousand three which was called violence in mental illness overview, but first, we're going to get to this article that showed up in the Los Angeles Times, February twenty third, and let's see it authored by grant dwell. And Michael were Cal. And they say repeat after me mass shooters disproportionately mentally ill. And it says the lying of mean but it's been circulating in the aftermath of the park shooting. But this another efforts to downplay the role of mental illness and mass shootings are simply misleading. There is a clear relationship between mental illness and ask public shootings at the broadest level Pirie search has shown peer reviewed research has shown that individuals with major mental disorders those that substantially interfere with life activities more likely to commit violent acts especially if they abused drugs. Remember that when we focus more narrowly on mass public shootings and extreme and unfortunate rare form of violence. We see a high relatively high rate of mental illness, waiting to our research at least fifty nine percent of the hundred and fifty hundred and eighty five mass public shootings way too high, but we'll get into that and other day that took place in the United States from nineteen hundred through twenty seventeen we're cared about people who have either been nyc nosed with mental disorders or demonstrated signs of serious mental illness prior towards the attack. Let's see both rates are considerably higher than those found in general population more than three times, higher than the rate of mental illness, found among American adults. Fifteen times higher than the rate of series mental illness, found among American adults. Okay. So they're trying to make this case that fifty nine percent of the people that were involved in the shootings are mentally ill. And of course, you can't use their research, because the links they provide you have to subscribe to actually read. As a hose to world, psychology, which gave you a very the, the piece that I based, my research on gave you the entire article, and then they gave their research was a linked to a book on Amazon. So I'm already a little worn than than not a fan of these guys below me read. You what I have from the paper in two thousand three titled violence and mental illness, an overview, the paper value is the relationship of mental illness, and violence by asking three questions are the mentally ill, violent are the mentally ill at an increased risk of violence, and then are they public risk? Mental disorders are neither necessary nor sufficient causes of violence major determinants of violence continued to be socio demographic in neck, onomic factors substance abuse, which this article from the Los Angeles Times tried to slip by you substance abuse a major determined. Of violence. And this is true, whether it occurs in the context of a current mental illness, or not, therefore early identical in treatment of substance abuse problems, and greater attention to the diagnos, the diagnosis and management of concurrent substance abuse disorder among seriously, mental ill may be potentially may be potentially violence prevention strategies. Members of the public exaggerate, both the strengths of the association between mental illness and violence and their own personal risk. Finally, too little is known about the social contact contextual determines of violence, but the research supports the very the view, the mentally are more often the victims than perpetrators violence Mets the beginning part of the paper. Once again, you're listening to the bad review, and the crusade, John king says, truth or media site. Speakers, we're looking at the connection between the mental between mental illness, and violence and now we're especially looking at this article that says there is a connection. Between mass shootings mental illness. And I wanna know what you think do you feel there is a connection, you can make all for four or five to seventy seventy three. Let's get back to the article. Now not the Arctic with the actual study the public no less accustomed to experiencing violence among the mentally ill. Although these experiences are mostly by carry us through movie depictions of Christ killers or real life dramas, play, that with disturbing disturbing frequency, on the nightly news, the public, most feared violence, that is random senseless unpredictable, and they associate this with mental illness, indeed. They are more reassured to know that someone was stamped death in a robbery, then stabbed death by say Cada, man. Public perception of the link between mental illness, and violence are central to stigma and discrimination as people are more likely to condone force legal action and coercion treatments. When violence is at issue. Scientists are less interested in the current of isolated acts of violence among those with a mental illness and more interested in whether the mentally ill commit acts of violence with greater frequency or severity, then do not mental, they're non mentally ill counterparts, therefore, the question of whether the mentally ill or at a higher writ higher than average risk of violence is central to the scientific debate. Because the scientific method methodology challenges challenges faced by researchers in this field, the nature of their association remains unclear now, for example, finance has been difficult to measure directly. So the researchers have often relied on document documentation, or uncorroborated signed, self reports, which is very interesting because that's the end of that paper part so far. Because if you look at their peer reviewed research, their whole way, the title of the their, their papers understanding the relationship between the mentally disordered and violence, the need for criminal criminology perspective. And I and once again, I can't get into actually look at what they're using what methodology they're using. But I have a feeling that if I was to get in there and start looking through their reports their data. It's gonna be a lot of uncorroborated, self reports. Because they talk about they're criminally the criminal theories, including social, leaning social, stress social control, rational choice, social disorganization. And none of that really seems like it would be something that you need or could use in regards to how the mentally ill. Become violent or are violent because you have two different ones. And I'm pretty sure there are some of you out there right now saying, hey, well, Richard, obviously, your study was done in two thousand three. So this study must be more up to date. Yeah. This was then three years later. So let's all hang back on that before we start ripping apart now data versus data. You are listening to the Babri crustacean king-size through from radio speakers. We are talking about the link between mental illness and violence, the supposedly link that exists between the two. And I wanna know what you think you can give me a call at four four or five three seven eight seven two three. Do you believe there is one? Do you believe there isn't one? We'll get back to the article now this world psychology. Report or overview, actually, makes the point that. The way people actually try to saying, actually too much the way people gathered their data isn't correct. So what happened is in two thousand there was something called the MacArthur violence risk assessment study. And it made a concentrated effort to address the problem of trying to determine whether the cooperated reports or the documentation, they were trying to streamline the data to make sure there was an actual correlation between two. And so as of that point, it was done in two thousand it was the most sophisticated attempt to date to disengage the complex interrelationships now the actual. The objective of that. Was this previous work has suggested that delusions are associated with a higher risk of violence, particularly delusions, which patients believe that people are seeking to harm them or that outside forces are controlling their minds denoted as a threat control, override delusion, this study explores relationship between the delusions and violence among patients recently detract from queued psychiatric hots hospitalizations. Now in this study the prevalence of violence on those with a major mental disorder who did not abuse substances, very important was indistinguishable from their non substance abusing neighbors in the control. Why do I make a big point about that? Why am I over emphasizing the substance abuse part because the Los Angeles Times people, the guys were hawking book, they made sure to try and slip this by you, where they say in the second paragraph that at the broadest level? Their peer reviewed research shows that individuals with major mental disorders are more likely to commit violent acts especially if they abuse drugs. So what they're doing is correlating their work with a MacArthur violence risk assessment study. There's nothing new here, folks. They're really trying to manipulate their data to make it look like crazy people killing. People in mass shootings, which is wrong. And I'm gonna get more to that as we get down to the bottom. Because once again, the MacArthur violence risk assessment study in two thousand which is widely regarded as the premier study that associates mental risk mental illness, with violence hasn't tendencies tells us that the prevailing violence among those with major mental disorders who did not abuse substances is indistinguishable from non substance abusers. Huge difference and these dues from the washing the Los Angeles Times who are pushing their book on Amazon. They throw that away, like it's the, the end of the bread. If abuse, you know, if debut substances may be a little bit higher amendment. That's the whole thing. And here's what else the MacArthur violence risk assessment study. That's a long title. I can't I gotta remember that it continues a concurrent substance abuse disorder doubled the risk of violent behavior. Why am I making such a big deal about that? I'm gonna tell you at the end of this article substance abuse or doubled. The risk of violence, those with schizophrenia, had the Los occurrence of violence over the course of year fourteen point eight percent compared to those with bipolar disorder which was twenty two percent or major depression, twenty eight percent. Delusions were not associated with violence, even threat control, override, which is what we talked about before. People who had delusions in which patients believe people are seeking harm them, those whose that causing think that they're out to harm. Now, this article from world, psychotic, psychiatry, concludes that although delusions can precipitate violence in individual cases, these these data suggests that they do not increase the overall risk of violence in persons, with mental illness in the year after discharge from hospitalization. Several general conclusions are supported by this brief overview, first mentally disordered are neither necessarily nor sufficiently nor sufficient cause of violence. So first mental disorder is not a sufficient cause of violence, the major determinants of continued to be social demographic, and socioeconomic factors such as being young, male and of low socioeconomic status. Why don't we look at nNcholas? Cruise young his social demographic. He was about your middle class, but he was adopted and his parents, not that adopted people, it would make a case. But the fact that his parents were gone. So he had no connections socio economic factors and so forth. Second members of the public undoubtably, exaggerate, both the strength of the relationship between major mental disorders and violence, as well as their own personal risk from this very, the severely mentally ill. This paper states, it is far more likely that people with a serious mental illness, will be the victims of violence. Third substance abuse appears to be the major determinant of violence. And this is true, whether it occurs in the context of a concurrent, mental illness, or not those substances orders are major contributors to community violence, perhaps accounting for as much as a third of self reported violence acts and seven out of every ten crimes of violence among mentally disordered, offenders. It is a substance abuse, that is the, the highest correlation violence. And finally, too much pass research has focused on the person with mental illness, rather than the nature of the social exchange that led up to that violence member. In Nichols, cruises case, everybody said it was going to happen, their social interactions told us, this was going to be the case. Consequently back to the paper, we know much less than we should about the nature of the relationships and the contextual determinations of the balance and much less than we should about opportunities for primary prevention, nevertheless, current literature supports early identification and treatment of substance abuse problems and greater attention to the diagnosis and management of concurrent, blah, blah, blah, anyway. So that paper is telling you that when you have President Trump Dana lash anybody else ain't guys just a crazy person. This guy just nutball. This is just a mounter. Okay. Very easy to say, even these people here in this article grant Dewey, and Michael Raquel, clearly linking mental illness to mass shootings. But they have to for the sake of their scientific research state. For their validity that in love the throwaway line, especially abused drugs. Oh, I'm sorry. Did you want to expound on that? Do you. Do you do you wanna make? Oh, no. That's not a big deal. They're just crazy. Okay. I like I like doing that. I mean, I'm not a doctor. So obviously, I'm too stupid to realize that when the pre MIR research, that is only three years older than yours tells you that substance abuse is the major correlation between momentum ill and any type of island actively and you're like. You know what? I don't know it just. It just rips me. Because these the mentally you'll get stigmatized with this nonsense, and it seems like the rush to blame them until the mentally ill. Those people that struggle with stuff in our society. You know, about to go Alex Jones on your watch out. It's a cover up for the ever expanding pharmaceutical drug industry. Yep. I know frogs are gay, blah, blah, blah. But folks, hang with me. Saito pic- drugs can actually interfere with your neurotransmitters in such a way as to upset the delicate processes within your brain needed to maintain your biological functions. Normally leading to side effects that may resemble mental illness. I'll say that again, psychotropic drugs can actually interfere with your new transmitters in such a way as to upset the delicate process within your brain needed to maintain your biological functions. Normally leading to the side effects that may resemble mental illness. Think about this way. You break your foot, you get medication to help it heal. What are you getting medication for, you know, keep the pain down or maybe to keep an infection? It's actually treating something physical when we throw drugs into your brain. What is it treating? What is it treating? If treating the snap. And. No most of the time, it's not treating anything physical. Alyssa port that case all the way back in nineteen Ninety-six neuroscientist, Stephen Heymann, published a paper in which he said that, quote, once your brain has undergone a series of competent compensate. A adaptations to the drug contin man. I'm going, I need some of them continent. God's aiding for the drugs your brain operates in a manner. That is both quote qualitatively and quantitatively different than normal. So these people in LA who got this huge article saying there is a clearly, they straight up lying straight up line. I'm calling him out on their nonsense. And if they think they think online, they're slandering him. Give me a paper with the research, I wanna look through that thing 'cause you're hiding it behind a paywall. I can't get to it. And I know if I look at it, it's going to say substance abuse, major factor. The brass tacks take on this is despite what these people are saying, and what the media's telling you we'll politicians tell you, these crimes are not committed by crazy people. They're created by either people with mental illness or mental on this. They're, they're committed by people who are abusing some sort of substance. As the Babri crusade channel king Sassou from radioside speakers. Gimme quality for four or five seventy seventy three. Let me know what you think. Do you agree with my crazy statement over here getting all hyped up hyped up about that folks? Because in America in our western society, we are so afraid to address any kind of mental illness, you break an arm. Everybody was like, oh, get well, soon if you tell anybody and I'm having some issues, you know, it's a frontier, or some other kind of some kind of delicate issues with our brain. Everybody runs like you. Because we are so afraid to help people with mental illness. So anytime that crazy crazy crazy crazy. All right now, we're gonna move onto Grinberg nor you take a look in issue. That's so ridiculous that we have to just grin and bear it today. We're going to take a look at the progressive nostalgia, that his infested, the Catholic church if you notice a progressive stream at your local parish, gimme call for four or five to seventy seven to three. This comes from the Miami up nine hero, the Catholic herald, and it was about last week's Catholics for dreamers, painful exercise in nineteen sixties nostalgia last week Catholics for dreamers rally in Washington DC was excruciating. I can say the stuff on trying to reading was super painful, watch granted, I watched Tuesday's event unfold from my smartphone on a train from New York to Boston, but judging by the reports they were many grey heads. Don't get me wrong seniors have as much right to protest as millennials. But the whole thing seems to have turned into an exercise in baby, boomer nostalgia take father, Thomas Reese column tomorrow, I plan to get arrested his since been updated to reflect the fact that he was indeed arrested in it. He wrote this will be my first time getting arrested. Many of my Jesuit colleagues were arrested during the nineteen sixties and seventies when demonstrations were about Vietnam, civil rights and farm workers as part of these demonstrations, peaceful civil disobedience was not uncommon Massina that quote, there's more than a whiff of regret at having missed the golden age of progressive rabble-rousing, good point by Mr. Davis back to the article father, reece's, obviously inviting comparisons to the brave men and women who were beaten imprisoned and killed in the fight for African American equality. But is this comparison apt he and the thirty to forty others who were arrested new? They will be no real negative repercussions. In fact, all of them were released by four pm. Really, it's a badge of honor proof that you stuck it to the man. And you can earn it with plenty of time left to make your dinner reservation in Georgetown, man. Mr. Davis is absolutely knocking out of the park on this one. Back to the article to make matters even more cringe-worthy. There was this tweet by fellow Jesuit. Father, James Martin father Reese, arrested in the US at during protests, behalf of dreamers on the mount of beatitudes today in the holy land. We read Jesus words. Blessed are those who are persecuted for the sale of righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven blessed is he? Tweet or unquote. Tweet back to the article to make matters even z note. That was the same thing. I was about to read. Father Reese, arrested. Oh, no. We actually followed up. There was two tweets by James Martin as elephant combinator father, John Morris pointed out, when Christians are dying faith around the world. I don't think we should use the word persecution light lead. Yeah. To make matters even more cringe-worthy. There is another tweets from father, James Morton. Was it the same thing? Oh, actually. No. I just double type sorry about that. But we'll go back to television commentator Jonathan Morris's point when Christians are dying faith around the world. I don't think we should use the word persecution so lightly. See, as the end of the actual article because apparently I just got a copy pasted twice. Now. What we have here is. And an example of the liberation theology. That. Religious movement that Iraq that rose in the late twentieth century and Senator in centered in Latin America. It's all to apply. Religious faith by eating the poor and oppressed through involvement in political and civic affairs. It was stressed it stressed both heightened, awareness of the quote sinful, unquote, socioeconomic structures that cause social inequalities and active participation in challenging the structures. The thing about the liberation theology that you need to take into account as it draws serious inspiration from the philosophy of Karl Marx, ladies and gentlemen, which is why you're seeing a push for these social causes like immigration climate change anything that social Justice. He it seems like the Catholic church is behind and the reason why that is the case because it's you know, we don't want in quality me. Don't wanna these these other things. It's really because of this push through the social liberation, the allergy. And this idea of Karl Marx's philosophy being integrated. Into everyday teachings. I'm sure you've seen this. In your local parish. Maybe you've dotted it as well. But to have these type of things be at odds with the Catholic teachings that have gone back to the founding of the church, it, is it gets very a nerve ING when you see people who are so quick to jump on to this, this nostalgia of being part of the sixties, the sixties style, just real. It's not just in the Catholic church is really present in education as well. I mean, to take a u-turn off here, but the idea that all well, we need to fight for this inequality. All right, folks, the situation with the dreamers is interesting. And it's not really great. But. Also, it's not the civil rights movement. It's not blacks actually sitting at a counter, and getting beat and cigarettes, burned into their, their skulls in milkshakes. Poured on them. I know these dreamers are so oppressed. We give them free college. Oh, these dreamers are so oppressed. We give them pretty much anything they want. It's totally different than what, what happened during the sixties. But this push this, this push to, to try and get us to feel the same way is a little ridiculous, and it's, it's sad. And if you see the if you see stuff like that. If you see pushed towards more social, Justice, e type stuff understand that what it is, is the liberation theology and it's infected all of the may. Major orders, and they believe it and unfortunately, right now, it's kind of what puts us at odds between traditional, quote unquote traditional Catholics in modern-day Catholics. It's the liberation theology. All right, folks, we're gonna move on to the last segment of the show, which is the world famous, you gotta be kidding me where we look at actual news stories and think to ourselves, you gotta be kidding me. If I don't take points on created creativity. Okay. Sometimes he's got a name. From the city, of course, a can of Texas in the DFW. Metroplex. A statue of gorilla and prime attraction for kids at the community park. Playground, of course, a Cana was removed by the city. A spokesman for the city said some community members found the guerilla offensively offensive racially insensitive in some form and requested its removal from the park. We can understand this because we have an obligation to listen to all of our citizens to determine what is offensive and what is not, especially in public places. So, of course, again, mayor Don, bro. Demo saw uptick in complaints about the playground primate during the last weeks. There are more more phone calls and personal discussions. So he the city manager and a that would be one city council member decided to new the come down. Tyranny of social media three people complain. It's gotta come down. He's gotta be kidding me conclude today's bear, brief, and the crusade channel, grace and peace. All of you. Shelley. Saint. Stay.

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The CRUSADE Channel Newscast For March 30th 2021

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08:36 min | 2 weeks ago

The CRUSADE Channel Newscast For March 30th 2021

"When i continental congress convened seventeen. Seventy four and philadelphia. They had no clue what they were going to actually be talking about but they all agreed on one thing that the british government was corrupt. Tyrannical and beyond reform or repair. Now from that body would come nearly every signer of the declaration of independence over half the delegates to the constitution convention. And the first five marist presidents will the new christendom committees of correspondence hopes to follow in does legendary footsteps inconvenient. Its first annual congress upon these rocks building christian communities from the rubble of modernity the congress will be held near the crusade channel studios and mandeville louisiana april. Thirty through a second. And you're invited sow register as a delegate or attend is a layperson by heading to upon these rocks dot co. join me alongside brother andrea marie david simpson and many many more special guests. All the information and registration data you need is at upon these rocks dot co or call eight four four five two seven eight seven two three. We'll see you in maine crusade channel news news. You can trust because the truth can be trusted. Traveler crusade channel news desk. Here's ron stafford. Good morning crews. Here's welcome to tuesday march thirtieth up twenty twenty one. I'm ron stafford reporting from the crusade. Channel news desk stafford studios in beautiful saint michaels maryland. This report is brought to you by mcclure. Tables using michigan hardwoods in michigan to make the best media that usa awards on the market shuffled out over to mccloy tables dot com. That's m. c. l. u. r. e. tables dot com. Here's what to listen for this hour. Florida governor says we don't need your covert passport. A dc mayor has her say the recent carjacking and church membership is down among catholics. Florida governor rhonda santa said in a press conference yesterday that he he'll be taking emergency executive action. Shortly against the concept of americans needing a vaccine passport to be able to travel domestically and internationally he commented quote. We are supportive of that. I think it's something that people have certain. Freedoms and individual liberties to make decisions for themselves to santa said that people shouldn't need to show proof of inoculation against the vaccine to go game a movie theme parks or other social events. He also urged the state legislature to take more permanent action. The biden regime will quote provide guidance on private sector efforts to develop a vaccine passports and similar systems and other news. Washington dc mayor. Muriel bowser deleted a twitter post on sunday and advised people and how to prevent carjackings following the death of a pakistani immigrant. After his vehicle was stolen by two teenage girls bowser. A democrat shared a post from police in the district of columbia before adding her own statement. Saying quote auto. Theft is a crime of opportunity. Follow these steps to reduce the risk of your vehicle becoming a target remember the motto. Hashtag protect your auto. Social media users were quick to react noting that the post was likely pre scheduled but seemed in poor taste because mohammed anwar age sixty six died after getting carjacked by two girls just days prior media strategist just gabriella. Huffman commented quotes hoover. Each driver mohammad anwar was the victim of a carjacking by two teenage girls who committed felony murder in dc. He died as a result of injuries. I presume this is scheduled tweet. But it's extremely tone. Deaf bows of silence is deafening on quotes. Finally the percentage of catholics who say they are quote. A member of the church has dropped by nearly twenty points since the year. Two thousand. According to a new report by gallup released on monday among respondents. Who said they were catholic or fifty eight percent actually said they were a member of a church. This figure is down eighteen. Points from the seventy six percent of catholics. Who said they were a member of a church in a previous gallup survey from nineteen ninety eight until the year two thousand. A quote of the day comes from saint gregory. Then he said this gives something however small to the one indeed for it has not small to the one who has nothing neither. Is it small to god. If we have given what we could coming up our of the day he was a sixth and seventh century christian. monk at the monastery on mount sinai. You're listening to crusade channel near happy. Spring y'all hi. i'm barbara daily. And i'm excited to share some great news from my friends at bulldog kia you can buy online and have it delivered straight to your home like a brand new twenty twenty one kia celtics s for only twenty one five. 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John decided to leave the world and retired to a hermitage near the base of mount sinai for the next four years. John spent his time in prayer fasting. Meditation and certament or preparing to take solemn vows to the religious life through the direction of martinez. John curbed his vices and worked to perfect his virtues. After professing his solemn vows. John began to spend more of his time studying the scriptures and the early fathers of the church. He became very knowledgeable in these subjects but his humility caused him to hide his talents. And not presume to share them with others near the end of his life. He was encouraged to share his knowledge with others and wrote the climax also known as the ladder of paradise. This work was a collection of sayings and examples to illustrate how to live the monastic life. From this work he received the name. Climates and derivative from the latin root for climax or ladder as john progress in years and wisdom. Many of the religious living on mount sinai began to seek his advice in spiritual matters he really offered his advice and was highly regarded for his wisdom and holiness around the year. Six hundred the abbot of all of the religious in the region of mount sinai died and john was chosen to replace him. John ruled until his death and six. Oh five and always tried to lead through his own example. A funeral mass was held monday in denver for officer. Eric tally a catholic father of seven. Who was killed while responding to last week's mass shooting at a grocery store in boulder colorado according to archbishop samuel keila. He said remarks to the shoulder to shoulder packed congregation. Many of whom were police officers quote has showing what is best about the service you give to our community our cities and our country. He continued as police officers. Want to honor you because too often you are taken for granted and yet in situations like this. You are the ones who protect human life. The mass was celebrated extraordinary form of the roman reut by father. Daniel dolan f s s p of our lady of mount carmel parish in littleton colorado. In addition to a pack congregation at the cathedral basilica of the immaculate conception in downtown denver within fourteen hundred people tuned into the livestream of the mass. The archdiocese denver covers nearby boulder as well as much of northern colorado. Send me your news. Tips to ron. At crusade channel dot com stay tuned tooth crusade channel with live breaking news updates all day and the best live talk radio anywhere up next. The mike church show continues. I'm ron stafford for the crusade channel seeking news and finding truth.

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171 - Partisan Brains

You Are Not So Smart

1:27:46 hr | 1 year ago

171 - Partisan Brains

"The home uncomfortable. But I'm talking about the cool. The welcome to the you are not so smart. podcast episode one seventy one the A few weeks back I traveled to Nyu and sat down with several scientists scientists. There one at a time to just sort of talk talk about their work talk about science. It's a different format from what I usually do on the show and that these conversations go wherever they go and something. I've enjoyed doing a lot lately. Visiting scientist in their offices and talking about what they're working on the moment what's on their minds right now and asking questions about what I'm interested in sometimes just on the day that I visited and I'll be doing more of that all year. I love it in this episode. The guest is j Van Bagel an associate professor of psychology and neuroscience at New York University in New York City an expert on psychology ecology social psychology social neuroscience attitudes evaluation intergroup relations moral psychology professional development and so on his work right now focuses. This is on identity moral values and political beliefs. And how those things intermingle and how they shape the mind and the brain in the conversation Asian we talk about fake news. Intergroup hypocrisy theory of mind identity dating APPs Morals post-truth Post Trust what makes a message go viral on twitter accuracy goals versus motivated reasoning and more. This was recorded in his office. So the audio will sound like audio recorded awarded in an office and a little under the weather in the interview so also sound a little loopy at times. But I think you're going to enjoy this because Jay recently recently produced a paper titled The partisan brain and identity based model of political belief. That just keep going back to when I wonder why the people are so resistant to facts in these strange times. And we talk about that a lot. All right enough introduction here my name is Jay Mandeville. I'm an associate professor. Yes Sir Psychology and neuroscience at New York University. So Hey I I'm in your office. I like any scientists office resigned. Science e stuff is up on the walls like there wasn't like plan you lose. What's on your on your white born This is mariah study. You were running right now and so two analyzed looking at the neuroscience behind fake news beliefs so we we have Democrats Republicans who came in the study. And we're trying to figure out how to analyze data model predictions. We're going to look for in terms of brain activity the and how we're GONNA analyze it to see if there's differences in how Democrats Republicans process real news versus fake news. And then if that predicts they're going to share it and what are you. What are you defining how you'd hate to find fake news in this in this research? So what we've done in previous studies actually take real estate bears and was popular alert for example in the lead up to the last election. Well we've done this study in some other. Studies is create fake news. So this is what I call fake. Fake dance because because she wasn't real big news and then that way we can control for other variables For example you can take fake news about a Democrat engaging in some kind of corruption in Crepe make exact same story about a Republican and show you know through randomized. Some resistance will see one type of fake news another the other and then we can in control. Statistically are sorry experimentally so that everybody's seeing this similar type of fake news about the other party and that way we can draw. Real conclusions is a process assests differently between the left and the right whereas in the real world. There's so many compounds you don't own. Republicans are seeing different types of news and Democrats. And if that's leading. I'm having to be more likely to share it so this way we can really get. What are the foundational differences between the two sides? Papa was a good example. A fake news story the creative usery so the ones we've done in this study are particularly around the corruption of Democrats and Republicans. We also not only want to see are people willing to believe it and share it but we want to see if they're willing to punish one side more fiercely than the other so as we're entering entring impeachments were wondering. Are People going to treat the exact same acts of corruption differently if it was committed by someone on the left after right and the piece rates was kind of inspiration behind this because you can look at where Democrats Republicans what they literally said when trump are as trump Alexander Peterman versus when Bill Clinton was under impeachment. And you can see some people. Lindsey Graham is a great case of this seeing complete opposite things about how he dies due the process of being impartial and listen facts when he was advocating for Democrats to listen to the case against Clinton now says that he's not GonNa do that in the lead up to the vote against trump. And so you can see flip-flopping by politicians on these two different cases and so we WANNA see the experimentally controlling for all other differences. Do we still see this type of intra-group of hockey. I love it. I love it is like a curve on over here and lots of exercise and outer rhythmically. Looking thing that I'm when you were talking about this Graham in in such people do you think that this is just speculation in your opinion Mike. Surely they know they're doing that right. I mean at that level title halted because it's not like a personal street committing these biases and fallacies right. So yes so. We use political elites as inspiration for our study sometimes but we do recognize a political leader. Plenty of different game than the average voter is and so. That's one of the questions they might be doing this strategically to get reelected to get an fundraising for their campaign to position himself for like NCAA privileged cabinet post or chairmanship of some committee whereas a real people don't have that same incentive structure their incentive structures or more about their social for relationships with others and their psychological connection to the political party. And so we want to see among the average type of voter. Are they going through. These same mental gymnastics when they're thinking about these issues we think you'll in premature hypothesis going in is that there's going to be not that there is going to be some bias and how people process news bad news about Ingraham members versus remembers. They're more likely to believe bad news about Oakland verse and Good News About Ingram members and we thought that that might be fairly similar across the political spectrum and then the second set of questions we had and these were more questions rather than hard hypotheses. Because there hasn't been a lot of work on this is once you go into the brain you want to. Z are these decisions being processed differently so what neuro science allows us to do is equivalent of looking under the hood so if you have car problems carbon start you turn the Keel and start in the morning you can just turn that key and we'll start. You need to take it in for the most part mechanic and now let's up the hood and see is an issue the sparkle hugs or the fan belt. Or is it low oil or is it Outta gas Or something wrong with the Pistons and so that's what we're doing using FM right or looking. Is this something about high level motivated reasoning in the prefrontal CORTEX. Is this something about. They're having a different emotional response in the middle or the insulation to information. Maybe bad information about members later on party isn't something about social cognition that they're inferring differences in intent. Maybe they think Democrat the Democrats. Who did that thing didn't intend to do it? Whereas they think of a Republican to the same thing that they might have intended to do it that that would be neighboring a straightforward prediction would be the temporal parietal junction which is involved in theory of mind? That you're putting yourself in their mind to make these inferences inferences about their intent. See might do that more for Oakland member who does a bad thing and what seems to be obsessive research streetwise these days. The big thing that we study is around issues of social identity now we identify with groups and how that affects our moral judgments values I can't help but be fascinated by politics in Asia of massive polarization the role of social media and all this and the spread of misinformation information and fake news. I've been using the theories and tools That we've used for a long time to study identity to see how those can help us understand. What's what's going on politically in this country and other countries like you know if most people when they want to this podcast these days like just please just only be shows about this kind of stuff and get it and I keep trying to make it not about politics without an underlying that and then what's underlying fat and keep going down to get the quirks if he can do it right by your work because you? It's not so much about studying studying behavior. But you're actually doing all sorts of stuff looking into brain regions being Getting blood for doing different things. So there's a lot about social and hand in grew by because I feel like people in catching on the fact that this is a fundamental drive. But I would take us back. It wasn't so easy to convince someone that they're motivated to behave. Think deal in ways. They wouldn they weren't In kind if there were concrete I something that you you tell me. If I'M GONNA be here isn't kind of strange. Thank you for your time of all things. There was a wedding announcement of two people who are vegans and they were just so happy. They finally met had a Vegan so they can get married to Vegan because they felt like the lifestyle was so so important to matchmaking and I just interviewed the meter flatter there is the leader. And he's telling me about dating apps just flat earthers because you have to. That has take care of all about that right on. And he's always been a thing. Seems new to me that you can meet. Your identity can be begin. Your identity can be I'm into this spiracy Feel like they used to be stuffy or into our. That's your dietary decisions. That can't be like who you are but now that's leading things like a person who eats stuff isn't what's going on so I love the dating example. There's all kinds of dating apps like matchmaking for Vegans or Vegetarians or different types of food preferences and it seems like food preferences a case where that would matter a lot right. If you're going to sit down for dinner or for lunch together useful to at least think that the person's GonNa share some of your preferences medical condition Gal you can't deliver beer us okay. Fine and he's not gonNA like relationship. Yes so so this is where it's I think. Technology has put these things on steroids where it used to be. He's did the best you Kurds. The people could meet through work and I the hobbies are clubs. You had and you had to make some trade offs you might not be able to get ah Vegan who you're also attracted to. Who has the same like goals as you and shares your values around religion or politics now if that's really essentially they can leave for it lead with it? They can identify and find somebody very easily and they can match up and go through a lot of different dates with those types of the people especially in a place like New York. There's probably tens or hundreds of thousands of people sewer dietary preferences and so that's turns out to be a powerful tool. We have for sorting now. Once you find people like that. And you're on the dating scene it just reinforces that identity for you because you're kind of we talked about echo chambers online around politics but you can create an echo chamber around your identity. You identify a partner. Who shares his eating preferences to hang out with other people people who show those preferences and you can rationalize justify and reinforce one another's preferences decide certain restaurants or places you WanNa hang out there good for those types of things things and you create a whole little community around this eating a pallet dietary style that you have and so? That's it's changed things dramatically there now dating apps for people with different political preferences of you're looking trump supporter. You WanNa find another trump supporters now out opt for that to find somebody for dating purposes and I'll tell you why that was important and interesting. There used to be barriers various round things like interracial dating legal barriers in this country. Historically the promoted Discrimination but that though those laws change short time and there's much for interracial interest nick into religious dating one thing has become more aversive to people in the last few years intra-party dating so oh now most people are averse to dating somebody from another party or they don't want their kids today. Somebody even another party and now we have apps that reinforce it and I did a starting a few years ago it was actually out around. The trump inauguration and the women's March which I think was like the day or two after that in DC and we teamed up with a radio radio station in New York WNYC and give them some questions. They went down and collected data from over a thousand people and we asked them if people be willing to date someone. I'm from the other political party. A political rally and the numbers were shocking. I think it was like ten to twenty percent of people were willing to date somebody cross party dating. And and that's I don't blame people but and dating is actually one of those rare situations in society where we allow discrimination because enforcing to date somebody or sleep with somebody. And so it's a place where we allow north latitudes amount of freedom in our country and so people can openly are comfortable openly town. You that they just went date somebody who is aligned with a severe like that's always been something or is that the future underneath sort of touched on that but I am wondering like how do people identify themselves. Let's say a hundred years ago. What was leading when I said I think my identity? What are the features that I would present? He uses speeches of how identifies today so some first first of all. I don't want to imply that historical staller. Nature's pure speculation. I mean my understanding is that it was dating and more traditional traditional communities is was determined by religion racial identity. It might have been determined more by your parents community. So you still have this other countries where you have parents selecting someone is appropriate for you to date and that is determined on features like social class and things like that. So it's exciting. Because it's in some ways it seems we're and maybe oppressive or discriminatory to somebody else had your dietary preferences on on the other hand is a break. From a lot of ways we used to carve up society people have the freedom to carve up in new ways that are less imposed on them by older generations structural power. So I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing because choice versus your you. You were born into in beverly born into that geographical region. So people have that free. Don't the other thing that you mentioned. Is it secularized. But it's also funny in that it secularized so it's not connected to belief system like a religious belief system on the other hand it's moralize so for the last few decades the case we've moralize to things like eating a vegetarian or Vegan Diet. It's not just people are doing this. Not just for dietary reasons. They're doing yeah because the effects of climate change or harm to animals and so when you're deciding who you want to be in a relationship with you want somebody who lines with your values that might have meant in the past someone who went to your religious Chatterjee religious practices when your church or Temple Mosque. Now it might mean somebody buddy who also shares my belief that we should torture animals in cages for our own edification or someone who cares about the future of the birth and reducing their carbon footprint so those are legitimate or value systems. And now when we're deciding who to date it's a different set of moral consideration ratio is talking about cackles. I'm deeply vast right now. The idea of values and morals and moral systems. And how it feels like we're in an era. Or maybe we always like this. And it's just all been amplified that everything has a moral cost two or more award award to every behavior even down to like no socks and shoes and a and what kind of imaging this when we spoke earlier. Like what kind of Milk did I put into my lot day like all immortalized and can signal something to my intergroup single into my opera to get. Let's start start foundationally. How would you define value? And then on top of that how you defined it value differently than you would define morals or Karalis is so I think values are more specific Morality starts to get into general assumptions about right or wrong. UH-HUH I see as related to a bunch of subset of values that you hold like I don't WanNa harm people. I care for people who are suffering. I respect authority. I'M GONNA be loyal a family member or friend so those are different types of values you can have and all of that is indebted within some moral system more ideology. Nick you have but you guys will Bagley I. I believe supposed to work hard till truth. Both are those refraining other morality like categories or. Can there be values that are like I leave needlessly. Your professional won't catch maker. I don't believe a person should have a manufacturer captain. Their house. This for Dia me handmade couches all throughout your home. You're going to have vows values so once it moves so where we consider it moving from just a preference to some kind of moralize. Allies value is where it moves from. I think I should have a custom-made couch in my office where I know. ooh That crafts person. Who made it? And I have a connection to them and I'm paying for local local artisanal business but that it it becomes when I see it started moving to the moral domain universalize that I started to think that not only. Should I do this but everybody should have one. That's made by an artisanal furniture maker Brooklyn and if they don't they're doing something immoral because they're supporting large corporations or the exploitation. You should burn another country or they're not buying local and so then I start to judging and you're gonNA decide. I don't want to hang out with friends talking to my party or I'm going to say something to them and call them out on it the next time I'm with them and so that's where it goes from just my personal preference arts to a value that I've connected to my mall belief system so now here's the big question I understand. We're talking about stuff that you're still trying to figure out wine. Would an organism do such. So there's great reasons that organisms do it one way one reason why humans humans do it and I think other primates is it allows us to coordinate as groups it allows us to signal very easily. WHO's with US and WHO's against us? That was against you know who we should sacrifice four. WHO's GONNA sacrifice for us to be there protect us if there's foreign invaders or you're a pride of lions moving close to our little village of Hudson this energy so from an evolutionary perspective morality morality allowed us to identify groups that we belong to and ones that were against us and coordinate behavior in ways that benefited all of us? And so we have that same. Our brains aren't that different from our ancestors from one hundred thousand years ago longer. And so we're equipped with the same set of reasoning and intuitions about right and wrong and we have those same traders. Now we're in a modern environment. We're in downtown New York in Manhattan in my office. This environment is radically different from our ancestors lived in in the center of Africa millions of years ago but we we have very similar brains to them. We're solving new problems. But now we can find like minded people on dating APPs on social media in the street based stop people where we can walk into Yankee stadium if everybody else in the Yankees hat. We're giving high fives personnel to us. Even though they're complete stranger and pass them on the street otherwise so this is part of our evolutionary heritage was devolved because it solve certain types of problems for us. Now we're in a very different environment and so some of those things still work. We feel comfortable when we're part of the group and working together. That is a very rewarding thing for us because the way our brains are designed but also have all these consequences and sometimes rain fit well into a modern work environment you get little political coalitions forming silos and organizations saying NCAA parties bringing her. I've been a date and since I spent quality time walking through the halls and I can give me an edgy. Follow a bunch of academics on twitter. You're like I'm GonNa read all these cool papers they're gonNA talk about now. It's ninety eight percent politics and grousing about this policy and why this university there's this and this is bullshit it's like it's all politics. There's no talking about research on academic twitter. Twitter is is God quibbles even fully political scientists. Like they're not talking about politics. They're talking about the politics term life. I guess that makes sense. It's what people do that. Was Aristotle wrote that that we're political animals. We're social animals and this is part of animals. Even though that predated evolutionary theory it comes from the notion that we are now and this is just baked into our yet it has to be entered. Yeah I I mean I know There are plenty of people. Don't want to think that we were not animals that were separate from the Animal Kingdom Bre special animal. Were not exactly the special primate or not promised. But it's like could they be anything more like could there be any greater evidence that that something is amiss than the weirdness of however coming up on you know aren't new social tools where people like like the flowers and things should be like whoa right. The defect begins are like. I'm not gonNA marry you unless you begin. Thank the dating APPs for you know trump supporters only like. Something's weird right like weird animals. I think you helped solve for me. You already know this but like I got down this line line obsession when I found out about that study. That was done Sam Harris in his colleagues gamble captain. Here's the people in the scanner. The whole thing. It's like your bread and butter. And they had them. They threatened they. Show the counter attitude. No evidence about stuff stuff like paper bags plastic bags But when Jones anything new is something that was highly partisan they notice the different kinds of activation in the brain rain and they just got to be back in back of the oil is like they're being attacked by Barry and it just I remember asking him but why and they had the time and said we don't know that yet we just never happened which is cool and it wasn't until I found Lilliana Mason this this in front of me partisan brain between the cooperative that was like oh now I can get it and it was because he talked about the higher goals are in goals clumping camping in goals in the idea that a belonging goal can be more important than accuracy. Goal so I wanNA talk about that before getting started though like there's this identity Eh. Still doesn't quite have this like definite definition to me. Definite definition. Yeah it is not clearly defined designed scientific sense of belonging and I think like how I didn't he sometimes identity. Doesn't you think about it being like this is how I think of me but the more research to look at the more entities really how I think of my reputation to others and it feels like it's not a me thing it's it's more of an audience. Thanks thanks W- how does it work for you so we can have an identity. We when we think about the term identity. If you go on the street we go to Broadway and ask people what is identity. It was the setting. We should do part of this conversation. People are GonNa say you know. I'm a mother I'm a daughter I I but they might start saying things like I mean Yankees Fan. I am an employee at New York University. I'm a professor. And once they layer those things there signaling that a lot of the ways that they think about themselves for active are actively about the collectors that they belong to. And even if you think about if if someone moments is a mother daughter those also come with a set of assumptions about what it means to be mother relative to other mothers or I'm a father. I'm often thinking in reflecting on being the Dad. What does that mean? It means that there's exemplars in my head of good dads and exemplars of Baghdad's and so you are comparing yourself to others and fathers. Don't face this as badly as mothers. But there's a lot of shame if you don't live up to those standards and it can be public. Shame you know at at a park near here. I I when my kids were literally took into the park and did something that some other parents approved of you get a look of shame or a comment. So what what that means is people are judging you according to that category membership as well and that's making it sailing over and over in mind and so there's kind of two things happening there. One is that we get to select into different identities. Like I use the term Yankees Fan. It was forcing you to be Yankees Fan. Get to walk into the stadium willing to buy a ticket in Jersey and putting non when go sit down and cheer and that's very effort full thing that requires a lot of decision making but other entities are imposed on us so when I use the example Canelo daughter. That's not something anybody chose to be. They were born and and then they were someone's daughter or if I have a kid encinas Adad even if that's something I do want so. There are identities that we select there are others that are impose us and all these get basically overtime integrated in our own mind about who we are and then they also there whereas potential ways of thinking worse off and this is the key thing about the social identity approach that I come from then which identity is driving my. Oh I thinking is to try situation and this is where you said reputation hours a playground thinking about myself as a dad. If I'm at Hat Yankee Stadium I may be thinking about myself as a baseball fan when I'm in a faculty meeting here. I'm thinking to myself as a professor when I go back home for the holidays as I think about myself as a Canadian and so all of these different ideas are basically latent in us much of the time and become active when there are certain in triggers certain situations are seeing the trigger. Is the audience that we nasty and the salient to us. Yes like doesn't sound like my identity. Who am I depends on? WHO's watching yet? But I would say there could be. You can have an identity social identity. That's active without an audience. So I'll give you an an example. When I was watching the Winter Olympics of years ago it was the last day of the Olympics team Canada's playing for the gold medal in hockey which is our national sport? I was sitting in my the living room alone watching it and then they scored the winning goal. And I don't like running down the street and New York if I had a Canadian flying by myself itself and so it was one of those things. No one was with me. I'm here moved to you. Know Canada's only here top years in New York I didn't really have a lot of. I didn't really know any other Canadian friends and I'm sitting in my living alone. My and my hardest bracing as the game gets tighter tighter and I'm sitting at the edge. Nobody seems and I have such central remodeling joy when they scored the goal even on ice and not in the stadium. I'm not surrounded by L. Canadians. No one can see me and so so there is a part of that they get so deeply internalised it can get triggered with no one else around us so even though a reputation and who around is a big part of it. That's not all it. Yeah but I think like you say that reminds me of like when I work from home and I usually get up and put on clothes I think would be appropriate to work with no arguments and I think like if feels like when you're when you get into an argument with somebody you can get in the shower and start preparing. Your vital shower are like yes. There's no audience but you're still exercising. The audience is looking at me psychological muscles. You know it wouldn't be there if you're already seeing you start to internal so he would do internalized audience the audience and it's a really great and the next part of our identity as we walk around you know. Even as an academic I of internalized a lot of the criticism of my visor from graduate school. And he's kind of always as a critic in the back of my mind and I feel like I took a short or did something vacuous. He'd be frowning at me because I know yeah for many in any meetings in group meetings and seeing the look on his face as I'm presenting that all got internalizing that becomes part of who I am even though it's been ten years since I was in that law makers killers like imagine their ancestors watching them our even if you are you taking monocultures that imagine. Just you know your your parents. Your grandparents appearance watching you are being hill to them or God was religious. Tool is on God's looking and everything you do for for my kids it's on the chefs internalize someone watching them. And now we take a break from our program for a word from our sponsor it's a new year and that means it's time to reflect in his time I'm to set goals goals for the year ahead and whether that means discovering new interests or expanding your knowledge on specific topics the great courses plus. has you covered this online. 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There might do question internalizing this audience and is this interaction identity between they're being audience but also being elites that's right like like my unity also has to do with which elites do I trust. You could talk about that for him. Yeah so this is especially important in politics but this affects. That's all kinds of groups whether it's your religious leader representative of your country could be also like my hockey coach growing not part cult leader. There are people that are working to shape the coordination the group and they can be doing it for good or they can be explained explain group for their own benefit or they can be doing it for just Cher harm they can be doing to create conflict or going to war with another country or another group so in politics where this has been studied a lot by political scientists they focus on how elite shape the the set of beliefs that people hold and so it turns out that the people who are really hyper partisan are people who've been paying a lot of attention So they're hyper. Abra engage their highly knowledgeable politics. And what you find is people who are highly knowledgeable engage in politics often have the greatest polarization between the left and the right and the reason for that is. They're paying attention to what their elites are telling them about what set of beliefs to hold and it turns out that those people actually have pretty coherent belief systems if they're economically conservative they're also socially conservative Arthur economically liberal. They're also socially liberal but for people who aren't paying that much attention to politics economic and social political beliefs don't aren't actually very strongly correlated there correlated. But it's more modest and it's really the only the knowledge of what leads her telling you that makes you a coherent set of beliefs. It is associated polarization and that's the type of belief system and knowledge that that actually culminates conflict so that anything any any external that is going to affect the ability for the people who shape the coordination of groups to have more contact contact with group. Members is going to deeply affect partisanship. That's what we've seen. Yeah and that's what we've seen here like and new technologies come along all the time to do. This like McLuhan McLuhan introduced the radio. A bunch of Shit goes down and then it kind of levels off and I've gotten I think you're gonna live through like television comes out and we not that not that unlike the good part of the people were terrified of. TV They were terrified of the Internet and social media and then kind of get used to it and it leveled itself out the the the medium discovered. It's it's awful message and and then it was sort of an Oculus and and and boring after a while and it was like this is going to destroy kids minds is is became. TV bike here and so then there's ready for another change. Boom Internet comes around and at once again. It's a new tool for not only organization but for the leads to speak to their door nuys And for people who are going to consume as much information as possible from their leads now the main line at like super duper mainland no gatekeepers. I assume I hope before. We she'd nuclear missiles at each other that we will it'll level off and be boring again into the next thing comes round but I'm wondering this tweet now. We WanNa ask you. This thought. It really changed my thinking. We don't live in post where we live in a post trust world and I love that phrase so much because a lot of what you write about in this paper are comes down to if I'm trying to convince you view climate. He's nine and I'm a science active and we're meeting at the that level of that disagreement climate change. I'm not a side climate change expert. I have not been thirteen years in Arca and you. You are not a climate change expert. You have been so we're really having a battle over who's got the most trustworthy and which episodes system on top of that we is do we believe is the best one at deriving truth right and I was wondering what we think is more more post trustworthy than oppose truly rule. Is that really what post truth means like like it's difficult to determine who to trust or we have different opinions. Who to trust? I think trust part is a precondition for belief relief for most things. And so that is maybe the more proximal problem that we have so so so first of all just to give you an example of this. I tried to read into some climate change abors because there was an argument on facebook with my old high school teacher and he posted some climate change skepticism on a new paper and I tried to to find the paper and read it and I'm I can understand it and then I quickly realized how much trust is placing experts in climatology What I trust in L. Because I didn't even know who he was individuals? Are I trust an institution which is scientific peer review process and how papers selected and vetted and analyzed and that science is south. Correct name not not blindly but because scientists are actively involved in criticizing and overturning bad knowledge when they get new data in so I place my faith in the institution of Science I know scientists imperfect I I work in a part of the discussion always trying to improve the science and feel does on the other hand I also know that it is the best system we have for developing accurate beliefs. Almost anything in fact if I were to be hired as a consultant to go and fix group thinking and organization pure view. You would be a pretty good first step you start. Implementing four or five principles for Peer Review. y'All root out most of the problems that most organizations have decision making so I do believe we have honed in developed related systems. And so I trust in those systems. The problem of course is that when people people don't trust those institutions or I used to be the case that we had three big news channels in the United States and that people tune in for the night news at five peon. They would have shared reality because all tinted report the same thing they'll have rigorous editorial standards. They tried to play it straight as much as the news. Now you can really just the channel if you don't like what you're hearing and find a spin on the news that is the opposite you. Haven't you feel like your new sources the uterus the uterus the name them but like all so I trust the near times. That's why subscribe to the The New York. Times has some of the best journalists in the world in some willing to pay that money to get the news from them. I also read a magazine xena often. Or the New Yorkers are of higher quality news sources for me I used to read more non mainstream political political news sources that I thought were given a fresh perspective. That wasn't covered in the mainstream news over time. Become more and more skeptical of them because they often don't have the royal standards inside rather tune in to spend my time use my eyes to spend focusing on higher and higher quality news. Man Can you is starting to start studying the news aspect of all this fake news. Can you empathize with people who don't trust those sources like in what is driving their mistrust of it. So it's like family members who would never read the New York Times and I talked a lot about it and what I what what they essentially are posed to the tone of the news and what most people don't realize very few Americans can tell the difference between the opinion page opinion section of the news and investigative journalism in straight news reporting. It's on the front page. Usually and so they usually object to his attack of voices that are are doing that for newspapers which are very opinion based less database. And so I think we need to do a better job of signaling clearly on social media. What's what's opinion and what's news reporting so people can actually understand the news and you'll see this even if I were to tune into Fox News Fox News itself is pretty accurate? Scientists analyzed it. The Fox at a to`real are the people like Hannity and Tucker Carlson. The Laura Ingraham are often completely disconnected from factual troll journalistic reporting this on Fox News. You'll see this in the middle of words at Fox News about how they report things right now and so you can do a reasonable the job of learning. What's going on in the news by watching five o'clock news on Fox? You the more you tune into that a toilet voices the less and less connected. It's going to be to actually reported in the news but most people if they're -servative tuning into the near times they're going to find it alienating the the voice tone that a toil so for people bull who I know in my family who don't like that what I'm never gonNA convince them to tune in and get a subscription to the New York Times. What I try to do is get them to tune into higher quality quality news? That has an editorial voice. They like so try to get them to tune into the Wall Street Journal instead of Breitbart and so they'll get a higher quality. The investigative journalism and reporting the other thing that I do is if I see hints of sloppy thinking or not good analytical data driven thinking in the news sources as I slowly tune them out I want data even if it contradicts my beliefs and then I also have podcast that I find that are scientifically driven have interviews with quality. People are basically just high rigorous content. So listen to your podcast but I also listen to things hidden brain freakonomics. I mean mm-hmm. Those are partisan podcasts. In the least they're just for if you want high quality readers discussions of topics. Listen care about that. are going to be driven. By data science and expertise so can be non science expertise you have great injuries of people who have nonscientific expertise as well. That's what in here and so I've decided I'm not gonNA listening to nonsense even if it's nonsense that might make me feel good because of my political beliefs I could care I'm not interested me. What else making the show better than you think? Is that like a whole thing for like. I can't believe it's two thousand. Nineteen where students still doing X.. Like my I have seen differently like like it's just two thousand. Eighteen of course was still just been right. I think we didn't know there were galaxies until the nineteen thirties galaxies. Man wingels on luggage until the decade. And a half. Go out that yeah do it. Sounds nation is just thousand eighteen. Like of course we're doing weird stuff of Brexit and and of course You know police are still running. Montlake click science every man. Science has in my opinion a good two thousand years with the work ahead of it to get to a pretty good place right. A brain scanners aren't done nearly half of fidelity that can imagine they'll have committed a brain scanner five hundred years. What is show? You like excites me. I am I I find news content that it takes a perspective with things are much more understand ourselves. Much better not That's when I started turn away from it. They can so sure that this is the way things are like when you're really just doing everything out even what's society it's just getting. I remain hopeful for a couple reasons. Touch on a couple of things I care about one is that I do think over time. We've gotten better our institutions have done better and better and so you can look at all kinds of measures Asia's about like infant death rates global poverty and Intergroup conflicts warfare murder. We are living in an amazing time. History because trajectories impossibly been figuring odds of things that we can fly to the moon but on the other hand we need to maintain a lot of intellectual humility. And something we're starting to study in my lab with floss for Mark Alfono Online mm-hmm what it goes viral social media. And this is something I been studying with Billy Brady and other people at NYU and at Yale is that people tend to use moral emotional words and those are words that have huge certainty strong connotations about right and wrong it gets three tweeted more about twenty percent for each moral emotional word. You use an a tweet Moore twenty percent more likely to get re tweeted. Three or four of them was a message. Sixty detail eighty percent more likely to get so. That's the type of language that it that spreads found the same thing. We analyzed every single American politician the Senate in Congress I run for president for a year and we got the same thing when they use that type of language it goes viral but when we looked at half million of these these messages. We've we found that it goes viral but it starts to alienate other people who disagree with you. Politically and so. It's only getting retreated and liked by people who sharing release system but but it's hard to create or is associated with what looks like big echo chamber swarming and so the language which I would say is the opposite of intellectual. Humility is is rewarded. Gets you a reputation. It gets you followers it gets. You Re tweeted. It feels good to get a bunch of likes on your message. You can monetize it now so if you share a bunch of these you know if you have a podcast or belong you tribes. Advertisers are people to your page which gets advertising revenue. But so when you talk about where we aren't knowledge we should be using words. That are pretty much the opposite mother that we should be showing intellectual humility pretty openness curiosity engagement and interest with ideas that are new or that might challenge something that we've been thinking about and the problem is that that doesn't get rewarded socially economically. And so I'm really getting more interested in Subaru. What you can do to encourage people to use that type of language promote discussion rather than car people into groups or ailing people but you can imagine engine that Jack Dorsey or Zuckerberg realize the value neutral? Humility they can have a different algorithm so latest tweets or whatever top tweets in your twitter feed were ones that use the language of intellectual humility and links to higher quality sources rather than ones that used moral emotions and either links to dubious sources. We have we have the technology to do that. We just don't have the political will on the scientists in played there yet. Got To figure out how to do that in an effective way. They're all these unintended consequences in ways. I anticipated but I do think that. If we figured it out magin that you figured Out in a couple of years five ten years better or even five even six months you can go to a if you get them to change. Twitter can scale that in an hour. RTP affecting her thousand people eight hundred million people's news facebook youtube can do it for billions of people so it's the first time in history had the power her to to people in higher calling formation for some reason there. I'll tell you the reason second. There's not the will among these companies and I think there's not because it hurts. Your bottom line aren't going to be tuning unless they make less advertising agency. People are yelling and screaming and it's one another online right like curly currently going to do anything. That's going to engage with their product last year. And they there may be some narrow-mindedness How you get your product product scaring people engaged. Our product warfied tweets of people. Were saying wrong about this. What do you think are presented more? It was very scary to vision. Doesn't like they've done a little bit. I think facebook has been a leader with this but trustworthiness they crowd source trustworthiness judgments events and there was a great paper by David Penny Cup. It showed that they started to down. Rate hyper partisan and fake news sources. In your beginning. It killed a lot of the money flowing into new from facebook. So they've done it but at the same time as they did that incredibly positive thing twitter right around the same time. Change it so you don't just ceiling is tweets. I it's top tweets default on twitter. I believe and now he's trying to seeing that kind of outraging stuff in your feet even though you don't want it it's it's really hard to figure out how to turn that off. I figured it out for for twitter account that I have always had to manually every time I log in. Switch it to latest tweet. So it's like you move forward. Let's wine company. The other company takes us back and we're no further on Hannity. We're talking all around these topics. Let your papers fantastic and I talk about people all the time I ask I the idea of identity. Gandhi and accuracy goals versus these other. Goals is worth hockey at one question. And then I want to ask about that when it comes to change people's minds off into define what you're trying to change especially if you don't know what their true like antecedent is that person's reasoning in how they get any of that region oftentimes people think they're just pursuing accuracy. Really they might be driven by value or or an attitude. You'd oftentimes think like you're trying to change a person's beliefs we really trying to change. Their attitudes actually attempted to change. And if it so happens that what you're trying to change in a person that they draw different conclusions were different attitude about something more more likely to trust across the different stores or entertain in different belief finger trying to change the value. Can that be done so we can definitely change people's values news. It's not easy but there's really interesting examples of this so one that's changed in the last few decades is attitudes towards the Lgbtq community especially around things like same sex marriage if you plot attitudes and support for same sex marriage over the last few decades it went from trump hugely unpopular hugely popular. In fact you won't even see politicians disagree with it now because it would be the death whereas at one point I think it was the two two thousand or two thousand four election in the US. Republicans were trying to balance for referenda state level so to bands INTEX sex marriage legally and they did that to get out the vote. They thought that would actually get more people out to vote in support people George Bush and other Republican candidates. Now they were doing it because it would motivate so many people to come out against it it would be a political kiss of death and so that's an interesting issue where it's highly moralize go for many people and yet societal attitudes have shifted again. It took decades and a lot of hard work. It's not just something that popped into people's minds they. I had to be persuaded and convinced through the hard work of a lot of activists Chins on that issue because hose values change small. I think one of the things that happens is the attitude changed in part because it was connected to values people already held nope moral reframing yet so this is you can reframe something in a way so you can frame gay marriage in terms of the stability of families. And the sanctity of marriage rich in ways that make moderate independence or centre-right people. More supportive of it. So that's one thing that changes you can also you. You can take something and re frame it in a way that changes the value. But I guess that is immortalized issued. That didn't change. Can you change the underlying lying value. That people have good thing. It's interesting you mentioned that. I can't think of any compelling evidence sides underlying persuasion Asian headed like a almost a bounded persuasion like. There's a certain point like that. That person's values change persuasion intent. But you could could take the days that they have and say. Would you know that actually support this attitude. Think about it and then like if I wanted to change your value system like I don't have that power. I think I think some major life you have to happen to you. You have to find yourself. Beholden to different people's your belonging goals are different than currently. Are uh-huh right about that. I think you're right but again I was either some evidence. Society do change their values. Sometimes some societies become are open to other cultures are communities so attitudes immigration change years become a positive in the US so there are cases where we can do it. Aggregates societal changes. But I do think that what you're getting at is something that we haven't talked about my colleague. John Joe's causes political affinities that people have a biological foundation. The attracts them toward certain types of belief systems political leaders or parties or policies. And you're born with a genetic condition. It manifests itself in certain personality traits. For example you might be highly contentious or are very open or very closed to new experiences and then what happens is as as you get older you look around the world and you see some politician. Arguing for open borders another one arguing for a strong military wall. And if you're open person you're probably more attractive. The person who is you know attitude is pro immigration if you're somebody who is scores lower on those types of preferences so you're probably more attracted to a candidate who has recommends strong borders so so that that is something that varies across individuals and attracts them to certain policies and world views and belief systems news. Sort of these groups and they end up sorting. So what you've seen in the United States. Is it used to be the case that political ideology whether you're liberal conservative was only modestly correlated with political identity so you have conservative Democrats. You'd have liberal Republicans and so the correlation at one point was point four. Now it's about point seven five point eight They're almost perfectly correlated. And the reason for that is what you just said Saudi. We slowly slowly figure which partying slot themselves into that optimally aligns ends with their disposition nation towards the world. And now they're now you kick out. People are who are heretical. So determined for the Republican Party is they don't want to vote in rhinos. Republicans in name only. So unless you're a kind of across the board supporting these conservative policies. You're not seen as a true Republican. Get kicked about you see that in the Democrat. Tyler is a debate about are these people appear enough to represent the part to compromising moderate to do it. Unfortunately this sort of sorting happening every everything there's sorting in terms of what what are the best this predictors if you elections ago of where you voted for was proximity to starbucks so all kinds of weird audit things which basically they probably is a correlated with urban urban is probably higher income higher education. And so that's that's the term Monte Liberals derogatorily but it turns turns out there that actually it was a pretty good powerful printer. I see your starbucks cup so there are all these we. There's evidence that people are moving into districts. Tricks and counties that alignment and politically. They're you can sort yourself in terms of what newspaper you buy one. TV show you into who you follow on twitter or facebook you can curate your feed. You can die down whatever rabbit hole on Youtube man. It's hard unwinded stuff. I don't mean all sort of the Tibo when they write are descendants. How did this happen on A? And we're all blinds t plus e you like Western and it started there and then the bombs fell. Wow So last little bit of similar talk about this idea of. We have humiliated as a motivator refunds. And we are motivated by all sorts of things and you could like use also language to talk about this in your paper you used. The term goal is to look at it right because we had a certain motivated to satisfy certain goal. And you're hungry. You know you're motivated to go get food and your behavior as motivated reasoning might be motivated like two people have an argument about what what do you what do you think about doing. What do you think the next hour and like you slowly push the conversation towards getting food in reasonings motivated by hunger? I love motivated. Reasoning is the greatest thing ever talked about out because everyone wants to believe that we are completely free agents not motivated by anything set our desire for truth median justice. You can talk briefly. There's talking about this idea of like do immediately goals and we read in towards those goals and On a lot of the arguments I think people have especially on social media is is that all parties all times pursuing accuracy above all else and if you disagree with me that there's something there's a reason why you disagree with me at one. We listened to my facts ask. Why aren't you pursuing accuracy? Like I am so there's two things the first thing is obviously people are engaging enormous on motivated reasoning as they go through through life they want to fit in. They WANNA see today. Are they want to be social award eight and belong. How high social status they also different? priors so this is something. We didn't talk a lot about our paper but as part of the puzzle which is that if you tune into Fox News. MSNBC WE alleges have absorbed different stories of what was happening in the news. And we're arguing online. It's because we've been presented with different facts and so that it can also be the fat even if we're not engaging motivated reason it's like how can you not know. This is an assumption that I might have based on the news. I've seen if you aren't aware of certain things and vice versa. And so this feeds into what psychologists call naive realism. Which is we naively? Think we're seeing the world as it is and so somebody disagrees with us. They must be an idiot or willfully trying to embarrass us or acting different then the misled or they've been misled or manipulated duped more they're dumb or there're clarence darrow. lemming and so. I think that there's two layers the first Larry very hard to get through. When you're talking to someone or debating this what are their priors? Are they coming from a different background. Different culture different states different media ECOSPHERE and they've been fed different things than you and then you want to present them with high quality information information hopefully from a source that they trust. You pointed out how important that is. And then if they don't absorb update based on that then you for tat have a clue that maybe motivated reasoning is also going on is good okay sir engaging with someone who believes something different from what I believe in. I'm currently in attempting to get them to accept some sort of act and it may be. I'm getting trying to persuade them to hold a different attitude. And maybe just maybe I might be trying to get them to see that their values might be missile line. That's a lofty goal. And the first thing I should do is see okay. Well what is their model of reality whether priors are using to To arrive at conclusions the epistemology because they'll be separable priors and defining terms all that kind of stuff and then auvers in fact they're still resistant to it. What do we do next? So Oh ben. I think the first thing is startled place of assuming positive intentions of most people and assume that they have different news source certain information than you and their priors are different if if their priors either art different from yours or they're just resistant to updating these new facts that you're presenting that are inconsistent with their priors. Then you start to think well. Maybe there is a motivator reasoning going on as well. They're spinning are coming up with week. Reasons not to believe the evidence he presented. Then you then. You might suspect that. They're not motivated reasoning. And so then there's a whole other set of issues that you need to address sothern gauging in motivated reasoning facts and fact checking them are probably not going to help get through to them. You're going to have to think of what. Why are they motivated? Is it that it's a public debate. And it's on social media and they don't WanNa be embarrassed in front of their friends or their beers to conversation offline. If they're still doing it then you might wonder. Is it because you are someone who threatens them and they're not gonNA they're worried they're not gonNA look smart is because they're worried that it will get out that they were wrong long and that that could be embarrassing for them or they make a kicked out of there. The group that they belong to so there's all just be conduct distance realizing they're on the wrong side of history history. They voted for someone that they thought was going to do. Good things and now. They're realizing they aided and abetted somebody who did terrible things. There's all of these psychological reasons that people might have for believing something are supporting some some person or some party some group and by by fact checking them you might be triggering one or more of these motives that will make them very resistant to change. This is the fact that the the attack from a bigger thing. Right like What was on about that to me even though I am obsessed with us and do a show about it is that you're belonging goals and you have other things? You mentioned belonging epidemic existential status system moral be like reputation costs. I like to think about in terms of that. And your belonging golden reputation costs kind of like the Union. That is a higher motivation than getting the right answer. It'd being wrong wrong. If the group that identity or your group belonging doesn't hinge on being a person who is accurate. Yeah that freaks me out because you think doc is an organism and you could just speak this you think that an organism are selves would pursue accuracy because it needs to have a pretty accurate model reality so that it can exist in knotty poisoning not eating right but like a situation which we were like no the social costs for green. And you're talking about so. Let's talk about the flatter conspiracy theory for an astronaut. Or if someone at NASA they need to understand the earth is round because lysergic. Hi Sir State. Someone will die if they don't get that right for the average person sharing conspiracy theory videos. What the hell others is actually flat? It has no bearing on their their quality of life their reproductive potential or something like that for them to be accurate and in in fact it could benefit them to be wrong because they make a gain status in the flat earth community has their own set of belonging and Status concerns that. If you're the most popular blogger or youtube video creator on Flat Earth. You might get invited to give keynotes and be a well known speaker at the s series of conferences. They hold which they hold they. Hold these designs pseudoscientific scientic events and people want to get a Southie with you or buy you a drink at the bar fellow fighter. They know you from senior videos on facebook. You might that'd be able to date somebody that community because they admire the great podcast. You have on earth theory or how you debunked astrophysicist through physicist at Caltech and so all of this sounds foolish to us to them. That's the reality that they might live in and to go back to present them evidence that challenges their entire sense of statism belonging in the community that they've been spending all their time in could be enormously enormously threatening to cull psychology. That gets you there. It's like this is tire. People into those are people who their license. They don't have a sense of meaning or purpose or connection and their more susceptible to being sucked into a community gives them that. And if you're taking somebody who has no status or reputation is not really well liked inconvenient and you and they've attention to be a prominent member of another committee eighty that's going to be incredibly compelling for them. Psychologically applying way to these things innate living. I mean I'm asking you to some unassuming like belonging is like locked in is like that is going to be. We heard you were talking about situations belonging and status are core human motivations that cut across cultural people. And I mean there's Research Sean if you tell somebody that no one wants to work with them they're never gonna belong again their I q plummets about fifteen points. They get back but it's so -t's distressing psychologically to be socially ostracized that they have these devastating responses. Fifteen points fifteen points if communication's really strong now in reality the the threats to these needs can range from someone stealing my man which convenient extremely extremely threatening and upsetting to. I'm just GONNA lose one hundred followers on my youtube channel and that's going to be very weakly weekly threatening for most people and so there's a ringing Jim Degree of threat and people who are GonNa be pushed over the edge or going to be at extremes where their livelihood their relationship their family only are threatened by something and so those are the people who are going to be most likely claiming to till the very end to belief system or an identity. That's where you article elites right right talking about political elites while on certain senators. Dissenting voters are going well because there goes their political career from us to them. They'RE GONNA lose the next primary and they're not going to have a luxurious consulting career after it either so in in addition to all the friends that and social they built up through their entire trip to get to that point which is basically what they probably spend twenty or thirty years doing with all their holidays and Events Hansen evenings and weekends. So is it any surprise that they won't descent when they their political leader doesn't do something and they agree with man once you realize all the aspects of their life and their social needs that are at stake. It's hard to imagine a new setting. What about this executive thinking about in the in the accuracy of someone like we're GonNa Hassle holiday time with people who are not going to accept accept our view of the world? Sometimes fact-based is going to be somebody family that is a something like a flatter and is going to be somebody who family who doesn't really politically allegedly so you're gonNA messing with facts and attitudes and they will. That person doesn't have that doesn't seem to me that that person has integral stakes in this game. Why are they going to be motivated by these long and goals so strongly yet so for them? The belonging outgoing might not be threatened but it might be a threat of status. Your uncle might not want to concede his political beliefs because it makes them look bad in for the rest of the foul or it means that he hit a moral to be right and suddenly makes him realize he actually supported some partier politician who did heinous evil things And so there's a reluctance for people in trying to buy their family to admit that they supported somebody who didn't heinous things they don't WanNa lose status and be embarrassed so they have they don't have the same compulsion to believe things to be more open minded than your average political political operative but they nevertheless human beings who have a lot of these same goals and differences in priors from you one last thing that you mentioned this this paper like without it being a interacting to people that you can unknowingly have your own your since would alleys memory ear valuations your perceptions can be affected by these two peoples angels like partisanship can alter your executive function memory your visual perception your attention control all same time and as an individual looking stuff going on around you you talk about that for a minute that's blows them is the fact that affect the most radical all part of our papers the possibility that identity can change perception to change how we're interpreting the world around us the some evidence for that is affecting things like attention so if you and I both opened the newspaper if different political beliefs my is my digital tension goes to certain headlines Stories or is it might make me feel better about my belief system your visual attention might go to other headlines to read stories that support your belief system and so that's by by Ch- so electing are visual attention or altering it we're going to get different information about what's going on in the world so we're no longer shared sensor reality doing that second bus looking and workday and we're doing that all day long living totally different priors enrolled us as we move forward yeah so we're doing studies on this show people debate clips were you imagined in two thousand sixteen presidential debate you see on a Split Screen Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump side-by-side saying a lot of stuff but can you remember after ninety minute debate. We're looking at what people aware. People are looking what they remembering selectively. And it seems like partisan identities are shaping what they encoded from those news debates and so. It's still an open question. How early in perception will be affected by political quite entities? It might mean mainly be at the level of the tension archer protection but the moment that we're seeing different things paying attention to different things. It's a you you have to think of what. What kind of intervention are we going to give that person? You can't just give them the same newspaper you read. Because they're going to see it if it can't just show them the exact same debate that you just just watch or or a video clip that you just saw of somebody on youtube somebody dismantling some data idea they might be paying attention. Different things in the same video clip are tuning out as a final question to you can make us sad or happy. You are optimistic or mystic you can make ause. Let me go drink and live in the woods. Whatever you WANNA do to us it is like your work right now? This is your this is what you do in this fantastic office We're about to have really good fakes. As we were talking earlier there this tint to dismantle trust in all information institutions is going to continue. People are going there. The News News organizations are continuing to make less and less money and have to create more and more click bait or go out of business. The information landscape doesn't look good for the kind of his logical approaches. That are advocated by the scientific community or the journalistic unity. That's how it looks right and probably nothing else. We're GONNA live through your time as a scientist studies this very thing. Like what are your predictions. CNN's going forward what's going to happen. And what she leave if anything do as just regular people living so let me give you. I don't know the research on prediction shows you can experts. Don't make very good prediction. So let me give you a rage possibility. Okay so the worst case scenario is and I have smart colleagues. Who believe this that West? Some of western Western democracies start to fall because the conflict that's due to misinformation and polarization increases and increases. And so that's the worst case scenario and we start our institutions continued to get eroded and destroyed right the slightly better version of it. Is We probably there might be some regular. I think eventually be regulation relation of social media companies and you might to reregulate the way. That news is presented on TV once as citizens have to realize how this is harming Armageddon Democracy in society and so there may be some middle ground. Kind of what you alluded to before with every technology there's disruption period and then it settles off and partly due to we figure out on how to regulate what the algorithm should be looking like and how to optimize it for a good things and minimize the harm causes. So I think that's the most likely outcome is. There's some kind of stable equilibrium that arises due to regulation and these companies being proactive about these things. The optimistic scenario L.. And I'm an optimist. Is that we actually have learned some lessons. We had really smart people thinking about this discussing. This and ever- citizens are realizing the impact on their life there. There's research on their Thanksgiving's are getting shorter in where you have cross partisan and Thanksgiving events people do district for their family doesn't agree with them politically there's all kinds of erosions of a lot of elements of social capital from our Thanksgiving dinner to the amount of time we spend on line clicking through social not feeling good about it and so you have a lot of people l. actively changing their lifestyle. You have people quitting certain social media APPS. You have people you now actively going to workshops trying to figure how to talk to people. They disagreed with families families in Canada with their parents and their friends get together. Parents are very moderate but when their friends get together they have now at the start of every dinner event band discussions of Donald Trump reduce. Yeah we do politics. Yeah because it destroys the evening so I think what's happening. People are realizing how this has affected their life and I know I changed my own social media behavior minor actions to reflect as I've learned more thought about him critically. Imagine if we go to Zuckerberg endorsing these people and may proactively change the algorithms realize because has gotten out of hand. It's gone bad. We're willing to cut back a little money. I realize the amount of money you can make short-term it might blow the whole thing up in the long term. It's worth it if you have some vision and proactive efforts by some of these companies as well all is the bottom up grassroots organizing of individuals. Then you can imagine some actually healthier Memory to benefit from the technology. That is really ingenious as change your license and really positive ways to connect people vegan the data for Vegan. And if we can harness that we have unhelpful future. Shall it be so. I hope But I will say this if we ended up in a post apocalyptic Khuzami nuclear chemical thing. You're more than welcome to come to my proper million. I see. That's what I hit my. Let's hope for the best. Prepare for us. So that's why I'm talking to you for minimum. Go back gas generator generator phase. In which for us. We'll be talking about this. These are the issues of our time and I think it anything else. I hope the audience is it. Feels mobs that science all over the place and scientists are devoted to figuring this about and helping policymakers or just us just individuals the a more informed life thanks to actually going applying to it. So thanks for doing that thanks. I'll say the the cool thing about being a scientist is when you turn the news. You see something crazy you know. Hey that's interesting. I wonder why people are doing that and then studied. That's why I'm doing other stuff. I'm just like the rest of the people listening. I'm just curious about this stuff and there's a lot of our dove into this stuff because we're or just fascinated by it. I by by. 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CS 351: Samantha Pritchard pt 2

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CS 351: Samantha Pritchard pt 2

"Hey what's up. This is part two of the to enjoy. You know something that. A lot of people have Miss june the ties into something that we said. Well i often dirk response to what you said. I read the communist manifesto awhile ago and one thing that kind of struck me about it was it was way less moralistic than what i thought it was going to be. Based on how people kind of Make a moral crusade out of socialism. Where i mean he definitely Sees the bad in capitalism and and wants socialism to happen but it's one thing is capitalism. Seems to be something that's meant to kind of run. Its course and be something similar to what you described that people arrived at a place but it's not like the canon of messianic moralistic Tinged that i feel a lot of people infuse it with in the discourse you see on line where it's about You know it's. It's hard to describe what i'm talking about. 'cause i don't wanna say it is not intended to be you know a greater good cause is but it's also still not quite moralistic like like is good marks. Mark's trying to be scientific right he and angles were they. Were really trying to come up with a scientific way of looking at the world instead of you know as a spiritual or philosophical metaphysical way of looking at the world. They wanted a scientific theory of society. And like all harry's they obviously didn't hit the mark in every way at the time you know he built on it They didn't get everything right but they got a lot right. And yeah. And that's why. I mean they devote so much time to explain in capitalism rather than prescribing what socialism is supposed to be Physical a lot of people kind of turn it into a religion in a way. What i mean by that is a perfect example is as someone who you know was a catholic and was avidly Catholic like the way people would argue stuff. When i went to catholic school was they would basically. It wasn't is this the best thing for people what yet to start with was. Does the bible support this and then starting point for everything so You know is they're saying. Hey is homophobia good or bad because it's unjust is unjust. It is unfair is Goes against the spirit of you. Know what christianity should be about and whatever they will go like here's a scripture where they homosexuality is bad and then someone else who might be a promo sexuality would be like well. Here's a scripture where they say it's okay to our practice any type of sexual thing and it's and the main argument is becomes about. Can you prove whether or not it's in it's in the bible rather than hey. We're does in the bible or or not. This is wrong 'cause x. y. and z. Reasons and if you can prove it's in the bible net means that Effort the bible's wrong. There is a lot of people. Do that with Socialism's goes against. I think this the scientific goals that marksman mangoes had where they take the idea to be okay to prove that this is something we should do. I have to prove their marks with a the and it's supported my by the text and do the same thing it so suddenly get articles like the left this case for pro immigration the leftist case for anti immigration and both articles spend more time trying to parse the words of marx and engels to support the particular stances that are just saying hey regardless of what marx and engels say no self respecting socialist should do this because it's wrong and and you know what marx and engels were wrong about this. Let me let me see real quick. If i can find what angles said about the irish. It's amazing it's so funny. I'm sure as group like He called them almost without civilization right. He described how irish immigrants coming to britain. You know they had nothing to lose at home. they were. Just you know these brutes though. He said they arrived like cattle and insinuate themselves everywhere. Wherever district is distinguished for a special filth and especial ruinous nece. The explorer may safely counts upon meeting chiefly those celtic faces which one recognizes as different from the saxon physio. Physio i never say this word physio jami visit. You know what i've read about. Never heard allergy right. i've never actually heard it pronounced. I have no idea how to pronounce it. You know lack of cleanliness. Which is the irishman second. Nature loves his pig. The arab his horse with the difference that he sells it. When it's fat enough to kill Angles really disliked. The irish and marks was pretty down on them too because what they perceived was a burgeoning of class consciousness in britain that was subsequently thwarted in large part by the arrival of a lot of poor irish immigrants from ireland which was essentially a colony. Right it was a colony in the british empire. It was forced into economic underdevelopment. Starvation exploitation hyper exploitation right very much. The template that was followed in later colonization of africa asia and so forth. Right down to you. Know literal genocide. So they saw these colonized people coming to the metropole to the home to the home center to britain london manchester bristol and they saw the division between the irish workers and the english workers because english workers were pest that these irish workers were coming in and they were so cheap to hire and they were taking english jobs right. It's the same fucking story. It's the same fucking story two hundred and fifty years ago which is so depressing. Like how have we not pass us by an angles and marks incorrectly. Blamed the irish for emigrating. It's like if they would just go away. We could build class consciousness among english workers right which sounds a lot like what people today say like if we could just ignore or get rid of like non white workers then we could focus on building class consciousness among white workers which is what what we really care about right. That's what they're saying. But you know. I have seen some Of the more cana- are really make arguments like that saying that Marcia engels understood that you know there was some benefits to native like actually have seen people use that same type of logic. You know of dogmas doctors when you make make the texts determined morality instead of making morality Determine what the text should be. so yeah. Yeah they're having a handful of people who have tried to do that or some people who try to counter the quarter you said by by trying to find other quotes from marx and engels or other marxist thinkers who were influential to kind of provide a counterweight. Yes of course they said that. But you have to take into kanter context and Realize that the also said this or if someone else said this outweighs like just you know. Maybe the answer is not even in marx engels at all to this thing maybe maybe you have to go somewhere else you know. It isn't and that's even you know. A lot of black marxists have arrived at that position overtime. Bray and that's a big part of like what black marxism by cedric. Robinson is about is like the the chauvinism insufficiency of the early communist thinkers like marks right. And he's not even like you know it's not about making them out to be bad guys proving their inadequate or whatever it's just that literally everybody is socially positioned in a particular time in place and class and like that you bias and you're gonna miss stuff you're not gonna just go about stuff like you may not literally have access to information that would change how you would think if you knew it you know. And so. it's about the insufficiency of orthodox marxism and how a black radical tradition can inform lake. Where marxism needs to go. What needs to be reformed Here's the houston refund real quick Yeah on youtube thing. I do now is i. I can't pronounce a word ever youtube channels. I just pronounce words. So i'm curious. Let's find out how to pronounce that word because yeah yeah here we go. You can hear this american physiognomy your physiognomy physiology. I never knew. I'd there's so now we know okay Yeah actually so. Robinson has a whole thing on the colonisation of ireland by the way and how it was part of the development of racism and race thinking you know at some. It's not the irish where the slaves but he does talk about how the english you know really did develop a lot of their colonial and racist toolkit dealing with the irish i and that sort of you know much like how european countries developed these militaristic powerful nation states that were able to create and protect markets and use violence to obtain resources and new markets for private actors. That would not be a controversial thing to say to most socialists but all of a sudden it gets controversial when you talk about race being developed in the same way refined over time and used as a tool kit that can then be applied to capitalism. You know the the absolute monarchs monarchy was not developed with the purpose of enabling capitalism but it proved to be very effective existing set of tools for the development of capitalism right And those militaristic states developing the power reach and the development of race thinking very much part of the same process right There's another book. I really like called this more. Recent the empire of cotton on the spend bekker's won the prize. I don't know the history prize for bancroft. Yeah it's a great history of capitalism uses a global perspective and uses the lens of a particular commodity cotton to develop a really deep history of of the emergence of capitalism came possible and he really postulates A great simply of thinking about the early phase of capitalism which historically has been called mercantilism. Becker calls it war. Capitalism which i think is more accurate as opposed to later industrial capitalism earlier capitalism the accumulation of wealth and resources and labor and land isn't done through industrial production. It's done through violence. Expropriation of land and labor and resources By these powerful centralized states that emerged from feudalism and they develop a logic of the inside and the outside inside. you have. Things historically western economists and political theorists have claimed brought about prosperity and capitalism things like rule of law and property rights and contracts and constitutions and you know fair and impartial courts and so forth. that's the inside of war. Capitalism that exists inside the home country outside is lawless. You know if you can take it by violence from people who are not protected by these institutions who are not entitled to their protection. Go for it. And it's not done by the state it's done by private actors. Who have the backing of the state. They may have funding. They may have troops whatever. But this is like the model of the east india company like literally just a private company showing up in indonesia and just being like. Yeah we're just gonna start shooting with cannons and take your shit until we have control over trade or it's the model of the conquest of the americas and the spaniards private expeditions with backing from the state from the church from all of the european institutions. Varela do things that they would narrow allowed to do on the inside of empire. You can only do that on. The outside of empire and race was an incredibly useful way to justify explain and structure this inside and outside. It's not like they came up with inside and outside first and then we're like racism is the perfect to explain us. No they had racism. Already brisk thinking which influenced the development of inside and outside to pyre. You know. I you have the edict of pure blood leader that i mentioned then also. I think it's important to look at the colonization of the canary islands by the spanish Which happened. Before the conquest of the new world right before before columbus the canary islands were conquered and be made of population was enslaved and version. Did not make them eligible for freedom now. This again is a break from the traditional european christendom so this was against christian tradition right because they sent bishops and priests and they made a bishopric in the canary islands and converted these people but they didn't free them even though they became christians they were seen as being naturally subject to slavery by their inherent condition as people right You know and this is in fourteen thirty six. Portugal and spain are in the canary islands and king duarte of portugal in fourteen. Thirty six said the nearly wild men who inhabit the forests are not united by a common religion nor bound by the chains of law. They are lacking social intercourse. Living in the country like his and so this was written to the pope to because back then you know all their colonial expeditions they would ask for sort of moral sanction from the papacy right And of course they pretty much always got it but so you know he. Explicitly makes this argument the king of portugal to the papacy that these people are subhuman. They live like animals and so we would be just in colonizing them and bring them law and order as end. It would be a christianizing mission. You know we'll bring them christianity Now what was interesting. Is that the papercity also. Later accepted the idea that these people the indigenous people of the canary islands could only become christian through slavery because they were so subhuman and uncivilized. They needed to be forever under the paternal control of civilized christendom. Never be allowed self rule. It could never be allowed to be christian. Their on they had to be constantly watched and government and that again this is the development of that inside and outside of empire and it is deeply racialized from the start no civilization no law sub-human right And then these are the very same people unfortunately iberians You know portugal and spain. Who discovered the new world. They are the ones who come to america and air all ready practicing this system of finding people who exist outside of the traditional boundaries of europe and christian europe and persecuting them as iridium -able savages. Right those are the people who i make contact with indigenous americans. So it's absolute fucking disaster but it also makes perfect sense. Why was people would be the ones to do it. Because they have the framework ideologically. They have the tool kit legally legislatively. They have the material that they've built up through the reconquista. You know now. They have all these fucking nights with nothing to do who made their whole way of life about conquering territory from the muslims in the mediterranean islands and north africa and debut in peninsula. Naylor out of stuff to do and they're restless So of course. Those people were the ones who discovered america and and they were best suited to subjugate and and to make the connection or the conclusion more explicit. What you're basically saying is that the toolbox the mindset the history to subjugate on on ways pre existed the existence of industrial capitalism or Impeach imperialist mp empire based on all these factors that. You're saying. I just wanna make sure that i'm drawing the right conclusion from. Yes definitely definitely. That's 'cause 'cause also these systems go back even further right. I mean like the the way that these tools were honed in spain. Portugal against muslims and jews. Well i mean that. Goes back to literally the crusades. Right i mean how did they even come to be a conception of christendom of an inside against the which position and outside well the crusades Europe as a concept. You know i mean. It doesn't have an obvious geographical identity right. it's not a continent really In geologic sense or a top logical sense the the boundaries of europe are the boundary of christendom. And why did that become a unifying boundary. Why did that become something that made sense be thought of as a single entity on some level or in some situations a largely because of the crusades because they were defining themselves in opposition to the muslim world and in opposition to jews There's a fascinating texts that i really like that A lot of people a lot of people have read this. It's called the travels of sir. John mandeville and it's it's like the it's from the thirteen hundreds Old old manuscript and the first half of it's basically just like a travel guide to the holy land. Right it's not that interesting you know. Here's where jesus did this. And here's where mary to that. You know you should go visit this place in. That place has great food. You know but the second half gets really weird. An allegorical as he moves away from describing places he's actually been and it becomes like a travelogue not based in reality fantasy travelogue of the world beyond the holy land and a lot of it is structured around a obviously fantastical fictional relationship between the author search mandeville and a sultan a muslim sultan in which they kind of develop this respectful opposition. But like a clear delineation between christians and the christian world and islam and the mom 'em they have fundamental similarities that bind together individually but not cross And the way that he talks about the jews is absolutely bat. Should insane and pre-stages doesn't stage. It embodies a lot of this process of developing a sort of a christian density right like in chapter twenty nine. He talks about the lands. That are beyond cafe. Which i think is china if i remember correctly and you go towards india from china. So he's like talking about the himalayas. I think basically right. I mean this is all information. That's gotten to him through. God knows how many steps of telephone to get burned. Thirteen hundred So ohno this is in the caspian mountains so he says the jews of the ten lost tribes are shut up in these hills. They are called gog and magog they can get out on no side. King alexander like alexander. The great drove them here for he intended to shut them up with the work of his men and when he saw he could not he prayed to god that he would finish what he himself had begun and although he was a heathen god of his special grace heard his prayer closed hills together and they are so big high that they cannot be passed so he's literally writing about alexander. The great who existed pre christianity driving the jews into the mountains on his way to india the ten lost tribes of israel praying to god and christian god answering him and clothe the jews up in the mountains already the obvious fusion between the hellenistic past which is being rediscovered at this time in europe and the christian presence and there's an emerging european identity. Here that's really obvious. And notably that emerging european identity that combines both christendom and hellenistic legacy of the ancient mediterranean is defined in opposition to jews in defined in literally containing them and punishing them and You know he's the queen of the amazons still watches over those mountains and keeps the jews in there and make sure they don't get out and folk in the country nearby. Say that in time of anti christ those jews will sally out and do much harm to christian men and so all the jews in the different parts of the world learn to speak hebrew for. They believed that the jews were enclosed among the hills will know that they are jews as they are by their speech when they arrive and then they will lead them into christendom to destroy christian men for those jews say they know by their prophecies that the jews enclosed among the hills will issue out and the christians will be under their sway just as they have been under christian domination so again you're having the formation of an identity christendom that is explicitly about opposition to external forces and the jews even in christendom. Even though they live there are not of it. They in fact belong to this identity whose homeland is outside of christendom and so they can never even become a part of christendom their fifth column never to be trusted who will inevitably by their nature side with this external force have so this is all race thinking i was gonna say have you come across any Attempts to wither plausible or bad faith or or just plain bad Attempts to explain this away like saying oh. That wasn't racism that was tribal hours. This some kind of weird hair-splitting that somebody tries that always keeps them from Accept this because even when you were arguing with people in the bronze mentions saw a lot of people trying to use every single hair-splitting attempt occurred to explain away everything you're saying so it was like well merck dead mercantilism and that's like a form of Capitalism or feudalism is still capitalist. Or that's not actual racism that's religious persecution which doesn't really refute you seeing anyway. But but it's still right. Yeah i was wondering what kind of Pushbacks or a bad fate Arguments you've come across in response to these kind of things. 'cause 'cause i've seen you lobbies things that people and they still just double down. Of course they do. I mean that's the beautiful thing about persuasion. It doesn't work. I'm just to go on a little tangent. I used to work in politics. And when i did i was in like data and analytics and i would keep up on persuasion research and it basically comes onto. You can't persuade people are not. It's basically impossible to persuade someone who already has the strongly held opinion. So you just always have to remember. You're not actually speaking to the person arguing with if you get trapped in that you've already lost the battle. You're not going to persuade them. Literally just impure studies. Show that that's a real so you're speaking to the audience. You're speaking to the people who haven't made up finds yet. Those are the people you can persuade the people who have doubts the people who are not so emotionally invested that. They're willing to look at things rationally. That's who you're talking to But yeah so. Of course they double down because everybody doubles down I think the big thing that i would say is the rebuttal. People like the idea of that wasn't a system right here That's the one you mentioned that. I think is the most the most common retort because it's not modern white supremacy right in the fourteen hundreds. There's still no concept of like the white race that doesn't exist yet. White and black and asian and native american these are not yet really clearly elucidated categories And they develop a lot over time and like race. Science doesn't really start to emerge until at the earliest fifteen hundreds but not really until the sixteen and seventeen hundreds You know vernay. Who's french guy who was basically the father of race science. He was in the sixteen hundreds. I believe He was a fucking not like yeah. It gets codified and elaborated and as society becomes scientific in europe so does racism as as europeans become more concerned with taxonomy and later evolution and biology of course. Racism is adapted and explained using those tools of the day. But that doesn't mean what was before wasn't racism. The essential characteristic of race is that this is. This is a a social role assigned to you that you carry in the blood. You cannot escape it you pass it down to your children. It is genetic right and obviously not in the sense of dna because they didn't know about that but in the sense of of generative of birth of genealogy race is a genetic cast. it's a social role in the blood and that idea not only is it in the blood. But the reason for the social role is because of the defects that characterized people who who belong to these inferior castes. Right that their. Their blood is tainted literally. That's the argument And is that ideology long precedes the formal elucidation of race and whiteness and the white race and modern racism but it is very much the same intellectual history and and it's a tool kit that has evolved and been adapted but it's still racism. It's a different type of racism and somebody's people will even go as as the state at modern. Racism isn't really racism just classism in in disguise. So so not only. Do you find articles people claiming that everything that predates martin. Racism wasn't really racism because it doesn't exactly like martin racism. Somebody's people will even go as far as to say That even martin. Racism isn't racism. Then put you at the place. Where like no racism israel racism. Racism is just imagine everything else their argument. Yeah basically all the books that you want to mention that you haven't as as of yet. Because i like this kind of trail that your bet you weaving and and and the books and people always like hearing book recommendations so so far there's been I should have been writing down writing them down myself. But i'll or recap it. We've got black marxism by cedric robinson. And just to warn people it is very dense. It's not an easy read but it's well worth it. I've never finished it but that's okay. I've got a lot out of what i've read. It's one of those books that i've probably restarted at five times. But i always get a little something more out of it each time because it's a lot it's a lot going on but you know. Hey it's just like reading capital Much easier read. But i still really insightful. And wonderful is empire of cotton. I spent becker which is a history of capitalism through global lens of particular commodity. The travels of sir. John mandeville That is it's a short. It's primary text from from the middle ages And it's really the second half that you want to read you know. Skin the first half. But it's really it's literally like a travel book is not that insightful and it's pretty boring but the second half holy shit it's wild and i think it gives you a lot of insight into the medieval christian mind and how they were beginning to develop a sense of european identity christian identity that would later become a european identity that would later become white identity and how they were developing a conception of jews and muslims. That was racialized. Even it wasn't like a fully modern racism yet It was racialized. And i'm going to throw a curveball here. And say that a book. I actually recommend for contextualising all of this s p q r by mary beard which is about the roman empire which sounds cleared but s p q r is really all about the roman conception of citizenship and roman nist and how it was so fluid and flexible and expandable that that is what gave its edge to become the dominant power in the mediterranean that it was inclusive. And the reason. I say that that's useful for understanding. The is it provides a contrast it shows you the antique world. One different rent that race thinking comes into being at some point after antiquity. It happens somewhere in feudalism probably at a time. That isn't super well-documented. You know ninth tenth. Centuries ad With slobs but the roman conception is wildly different and people like to talk about racism in the in the ancient world ensure aristotle was racist or whatever but like aristotle didn't characterize the mode of production and the society and the labor relations of the time you know like that's one guy who later became influential because his ideas fit with the racism of christian europeans. it's not like society was organized around aristotle in the ancient world but You know brohm was obviously a colonial empire and degen aside by fundamental differences. You can't imagine happening in a modern colonial or neocolonial empire like caesar goes and conquers gaul. And by all accounts commits genocide there. But then he also like comes back with three hundred calls and puts them puts them in the senate so that he can have more political leverage right. Like you can't imagine a british monarch organizing the conquest of an african country and then like bringing back three hundred guys from nigeria and like putting them all in the parliament bright. That doesn't happen. You know the last two three hundred years. The roman empire. Almost none of the emperor's are italian. They're from the provinces because that's where power is the military and the military or in the provinces and they lift up the new emperor from among the ranks. Who's the provincial right. Like half of them from fucking croatia or libya right and none of that mattered. Because you roman like yes. They were extremely chauvinistic about. Anyone who wasn't roman but the point is anyone could become roman. You were not tainted by blood. All that matters is that you were part of the empire and you performed your civic duties and adopted the culture. Then you're roman no not to say that that was good but it's not genetic it's a cultural chauvinism and it's different. It is better than racism. In my opinion it's not good but it's better but more but it doesn't matter if it's better it matters if it's different it's different because it shows that racism comes into existence this And it shows a contrasting way of organizing society. I think something else that comes up as a result of all these things that you described predate. Racism is that i think it implicitly shows one of the incentives to keep racism alive beyond capitalism. And what that is. Is this idea that. I've speculated on before and i'm not the first person to ever speculate on it but this idea that mistreating Other white people Was used to be order of the day and in a world in a world without a racially assigned a sub subclass subjugate and oppress There's a constant like fear. If you wanna call it a genetic memory cultural memory stoorikhel. Memory your intuition. It might be fully conscious that it will return to that you. Now let without black people or other now. My people to mistreat and subjugate A lot of europeans will revert to doing this to each other. Because a lot of that was the order of the day and had been being refined such a thing as global blackness. Yeah i mean think about how much blackness and whiteness are defined in terms of slavery. Today and from about the sixteen hundreds onward. Right it's like maybe v defining feature of whiteness is like on enslaved right. Which again goes back to chris. You don't enslave fellow christians but then you get these colonial empires and it's like But we would really liked to enslave them and we don't want them to get out of it just because they're christians so you know well as it turns out we have this established way of thinking about people so when encounter those people that what they already believe and do matches perfectly with what the material incentives are once they get there and the rise to the level of slavery even though some people try with the irish were slaves but are still pretty brutal. You know what. I mean like There still colonized and genocide. I mean lake and they and they were definitely racialized but they were still seen as white and so therefore not full candidates slavery. But yeah i think i think you're right about this. Fear among white people that without the common enemy without blackness we would lose our white solidarity bright cast solidarity. I think that's a huge fear among white people and and it's essentially this is this is. This is the whole thing together right. You have racism which structures away empire is done. Racism enables the early european empires informs the earlier in european empires of how people decide to construct those empires instead of constructing them. Like an ancient mediterranean empire. Like the romans. Where the people you cocker become full citizens and even become rulers and the elites in the new modern empire starting in the fifteen hundred fourteen hundreds because they are inculcated with race thinking. The people you conquer are never going to become full citizens. They're never going to become part of the inside of the empire because they carry a taint in their blood so there forever outside even if they're literally within the territory you govern right And this leads to incredible enrichment for everybody. Who's on the inside because you get to steal so much. Land and labor and resources from the entire americas and then after that asia and africa all of this leads to like and this is where like empire of cotton is really illuminating a global history of capitalism because cotton was only able to become what it was through slavery Through the theft of land where they could grow cotton because you couldn't in britain and through the enslavement of people to grow and pick that cotton because it can be done profitably With abor or at not as profitably. And so you know like england would never have developed industry or i shouldn't say never know that it doesn't matter the counterfactual doesn't matter. England did develop industry based on cotton and they got that cotton from stolen land and stolen labor and that built the entire industrial capital world. Basically that was the foundation. Cotton textile mills spinning yarn and weaving and then transporting it. That's that's the genesis of industrial capital. And it's all done with land labor and resources that were at. According to a set of social relations that were racialized. That's just a fact. That just is what it is ka. That's how industrial capitalism came to be off of the largest of racial expropriation. I remember there was another book that used to be mentioned. Actually two books that got mentioned a lot with empire cotton when it came out. Even though i think is commonly Well one team a couple years. After but i remember there was another one. I think this was not considered as tight as empire for cotton but people recommended to call the half has never been told by edward. Baptiste have tried that one. I haven't i haven't read it but it came out in two thousand and fourteen as well. I think empire in matt gotten Slightly more accolades. But i know some people did like that one wondering if you read it or recommended. Yeah i have it. And i need to finish it but i did like the part that i read then i got sidetracked for whatever reason you know Read though after. I put it down. He picked it up one day. Just like on the toilet and ended up reading the whole thing and he. It was fantastic so ringing endorsement from my father on the the third book i heard mentioned. I didn't realize this at the time. But it's actually spent becker to slavery's capitalism. Don't know that one. Apparently years of follow book called slavery capitalism. I wonder if it's just the editor on it. Oh he's the editor on and not not the writer. So i think it's a compilations edited by spend becker and set set set. Rochman and i think has essays. I kind of wonder. Theme of tying slavery into the development of of capitalism. Haven't read it. Looks good going to actually. Yeah i'm literally just going to buy that on amazon right now. okay. I haven't read. That's probably gonna be fascinating everybody either but i've heard that mentioned same breath with Empire of and that didn't wearing there was actually edited by the author empire kind. But when i haven't started but i've had recommended to me by folks on twitter including a andrey domus If you know him he's been several terms. Oh yeah he recommended to me. Cast class and race by oliver. Cromwell cox started that yet but it sounds right up my alley and right up to allie of what we're talking about here and then you know. of course. i always recommend people to read one thing that drives me nuts about the left in america's is we don't read any fucking american history. It's it's all russia or cuba or china. that's glenn's germany. This american history is very limited to union history. I noticed that yeah and it's like like whenever people try to find historical analogies for the present moment. I always hear them talking about like the years of lead in in italy or the troubles in ireland. And it's like the eighteen fifties in america like and it's not even so much an analogy institutions. We still have. We still have the senate. We still have the electoral college. We still have the supreme court like things that i never noticed there too. You said it. But you're absolutely right. And if you talk about american history. I mean besides the labor stuffed. It's very specific moments like the civil war civil wars canon sexy so some people talk about civil war stuff and maybe liber construction. But as far as they can overarching Idea of american history. The did not really interested in your i would. I would say though. The american left badly needs to pay more attention to civil war history in particular and'reconstruction like i think battlecry of freedom by james mcpherson youthful book to most american leftists and capital honestly like a manifesto read some excerpts read state revolution but your History please and then read black reconstruction lake by two boys you know or or reconstruction by phone or whatever but like how are you gonna understand. How revolution can happen here. And how american capitalism works. If you don't understand american history how we got here here like capitalism is not the exact same everywhere and marxism doesn't suggest that it is You know to be back and say the texts degrees with the text does agree with me. you know if we're being materialist and scientific than you have to understand differences across time and place and be sick and you can't just apply the same premature so it's it's a huge hobbyhorse horse to mind. I always encourage people to read civil or history battlecry freedom. It's fast read. It's long but it's really well written. It's fun it goes by really quick. It's amazing story. It's amazing work with historical scholarship. And i think it gives you trends insight into the present moment and of american capitalism. Generally i plug. Every time i talk to anybody really yeah You know. I'm don't really have much more to say but i'll give you a chance to close out. Give any final thoughts that you feel like you didn't get a chance to say yet Yeah well i would just say to to tie it together. I guess to like our present moment like we've talked a lot about the past. Bright and how racism existed evolved and shaped ended naval the development of capitalism. but like. Where does that leave us today. While it showed that capitalism was possible and capitalism was shaped by having an inside and outside and inside that's protected by laws and state and an outside that pillaged right and that exists still today and we can see directly how that has thrown a wrench in the development of class consciousness labor organizing and revolutionary proletariate like with marx and engels talking about the irish immigrants ruining class consciousness blaming them instead of blaming the racism They fell into that very trap. Or whether it's the way we know. Racism is interfered with the labor movement in america solidarity with working people outside of america You know. I don't think it's an accident that everywhere. Socialist revolutions have actually taken place and been successful however briefly are in places that were or at either at the time evolution or prior to the time of revolution were colonies. They all existed in the outside. All of those workers existed in a shared state of hyper exploitation. They were not competing against each other and they didn't have an interest in maintaining this particular class and caste system Because they were all in the bottom tier with the exception of you know like a small amount of administrators and stuff but you have a critical mass of a revolutionary class in these formerly colonized places. And now you have the labor aristocracy in the in the core in the in the united states and europe so if we ever want to get to class consciousness on a revolutionary proletariat we have to those cast differences that separate workers from each other not just ideologically but materially. Black employment has been double white unemployment. Since the seventies that's material that is literally affecting how people are sorted into different class. Positions is determined in part by their cast. That's just a fact. it's one hundred percent material. The average net worth disparity between black and white families in america. that's material it's not pull its ideology if that idealism materialism and as long as white workers are materially different from non white workers holding more wealth holding more political power being more likely to be employed more likely to get secondary education with less debt Those are all material experiences so the differences are real. They're not imaginary and you can't just wish them away. You can't just say oh well. Race is biologically fake. Well yeah but that doesn't mean just because in some ways it's ally it doesn't mean that workers actually experienced the same reality or are in the same position in the capitalist class system so in may piss people off but like when liberals want to you know make us all have an equal chance that you know being in the boardroom. More all have an equal chance of being in the warehouse. It's like you know what tactically we should support that great like we should be educating and pointing. Out like no one should be in the boardroom. As long as as long as capitalism is here until we get to a revolutionary moment where we can overthrow the way we get to a revolutionary moments overthrow. It is by lifting up hyper exploited workers to the same level as workers currently enjoy cast status right but workers or men or whoever we have to equalize materially the conditions of all workers or will never get to class consciousness. And i think something else that has to happen too. Is i think people have to realize that there are some specific racial obstacles or problems that make matching the material conditions. A little more complicated and just giving everybody the same money they. For example some people talk about things like the black tax like how the your property value moves in if you move in as a black person versus a white person in your property value who robs. That's an example of two people the same thing. It has a different effect when you give it to Black people i think. I think that's another thing that but that's a whole different. That's a whole different episode. But i think that a lotta class reductionist misses that The same thing given to right and back people because of the reality. Racism doesn't always good the same the same distance in that. Something has to be taken into account when trying to make people people equal which not saying that you said but i just figured it was worth bringing up as well but no. I totally agree. I totally agree you. We're not gonna equalize these differences without some targeted policy. Like you're not going to get there by having policy. That's only that are completely blind to cast categories like. Yeah those are good too. Yes medicare for all blah blah blah. But that's not going to get the job entirely done part of it but not something that would love to see when days yourself in and and q. formerly known as hundred amis. Talk about oliver cromwell. Because i know oliver. Cromwell's book is Avid read myself. I know that's a critique of the idea of using cast as a standard for race and where it works and where. It doesn't although i think none of that is important. For the point you were making out thinking of it out any of it undermines or contradicts Overall your overall point. But i was. I was wondering 'cause i haven't read any of it myself but i know the book is is about that about the shortcomings. I believe it's about the shortcomings. Cast has as you know. A perfect mapping of what what races So yeah you're gonna. And i and i do use cast a lot as a as a point of reference which I am sure is is inadequate in many ways. But i the reason i use it as because i think it kind of makes it a little a little more concrete and easier to grasp for a lot of people who are still stuck in this idea of race as just ideology year year. Like no. it's it's it's a social position that it's a position in the in the relations of production and into labor relations seeing. You're wrong to do so. Because i haven't done the reading reading myself. I just know a debate. That's in that book. And i know he recommended that book to you. So i'd love to see how your thinking evolved after after reading that book if you agree or have the differences. Because i'm trying to wrap my head around a lot of this stuff stuff myself. I'm sure i'll change my mind. If you finished reading you let let let me know and then come back on now. See we have cue on and see if We'll have a discussion discussion about it. Because i'm about to read it myself. I just got my own copy. So yeah i've i haven't opened it but i've got a sitting right in me. Yeah maybe we should read. It could do little round table. that'd be fun year. Cool coup. So i'll follow up on that. I gotta say you can be pretty messy on twitter. I should have been ready you sooner. i just don't miss you on twitter brand on twitter toxic you i can actually string together a reasonable argument and sound like the same person. I want to thank you on suitor. But i'm glad you came on. I'm glad i'm glad we did this. eventually even wasn't as soon as they should have happened and i don't blame you one bit so we'll talk again soon Have a good one everyone out there. check out Samantha on twitter. And we'll talk soon and twitch And that's through sit please. T h uc y d. i. Cleese all one word But you should probably also be able to find it if you just. If you just look up samantha pritchard And you know maybe maybe we can hang out on the street sunday. Talk about some yeah. That'll be cool. That'll be cool. 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I when I, use it then I'm like, okay this is neat but you gotTa have you gotTa have to drag me kicking judy, you'd like. Using a flip phone still if they would buy one and used did yeah. Yeah. Blackberry A. Things that was before the blackberry. Was Today on gun talk nation. We got one of our old buddies bear Kendrick Barrett welcome in man. Thank you. Glad to be here. So Barrett is a firearms trainer and he's helped us out on PD. He's been a bag is been a trainer on first person defender and happens to live locally. So said come on, let's tell story Oh. Yeah. Glad to be here. Thanks man he's booked solid right now because all the influx of new gun owners we have they say, well, we want to carry we WANNA see. CW. Carry license. And he happens offer some classes and so we were going to pick your brain about. Like some of the crazy stuff you here because we all hear it. Right. So we're we're we're based in. Louisiana and you've got to have a permit to carry. CONCEALED CARRY IN LOUISIANA I won't get into the all the. Yes there's like, yes but things but. So bear classes full lately. I mean if I put it on the calendar it's full. Yeah. Usually doesn't take too long to fill them up. Do. People tell you why they're getting their permit. Do they do they? I mean we can all kind of assume yet. Do they have any specific stories or reasons? They tell certainly I? You know I've got some people that come in there like I. had a guy in there yesterday that he recently had an experience in life where he was put into an account felt very uncomfortable. Get Law enforcement involved. And ultimately you had somebody tried to block him in his driveway. It was kind of wild mouse game with Donna chasing around in the vehicle for awhile. Pulls up the Sheriff Substation while on the phone with nine while one trying to get help. They weren't there when he got there kind of thing, and so you know they've got those people that you know something happened in their life and they don't want to be caught that way again. Yeah. I recognize that they can't depend on anybody else. Right. They could depend on themselves. So the now they're taking those steps to move forward with that. Yeah. Yeah, and then you have the people who are just scared because of the news, right? Yeah you know never never fails in that sense that that something happens with the news maybe they're worried about civil unrest right now we've seen plenty of that and other people are scared politically right concerned that. in a month from now, two months from now a year from now, whatever that we're not gonNA be able to get a concealed carry permit. So they believe that they should go ahead move forward with that. Now, that way that we grandfathered. If that is even such a thing you know an administration is overturned or whatever I mean you don't know. You know we thought the stocks would be completely banned, and now they're kind of you know going back on their decision and California magazine Ban. Yeah, well, that's going on for years now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that's it is just normal now at least lawyers continue to make money I'm just I'm concerned about their welfare. Yes. They need million hours, get those hours bill baby have you ever? Have you ever turn someone away? I have to that sounds like a story. There would be a reason for saying no, I. Don't think I'm gonNA teach you. It's Louisiana's a shall issue state meaning that the state puts out certain reasons someone could be disqualified as long as they don't meet the reasons than the Louisiana has absolutely no choice but to issue a concealed carry permit to that individual, right well. I I remember one person it kind of came through that although he's not disqualified for one of those reasons that I have enough wariness just from personal life that that was never going to be someone that would have my name on that person certificate. A sense about it. Yeah absolutely. So I've had that I've had people call up at WanNa take the shortcut route right now and Well the last time I got my conceal carry permit, and I'm almost quoting this last time I got my concealed carry permit I went to the guy's house we sat down we had some T. went out in the backyard and shot, and then he gave me the certificate. Mike. Well. You you showed up to the wrong price. Yeah. I made my dad's through all ten hours. Congratulate you. Certain number of hours you're supposed to. Do Yeah. How long does it take to become a concealed carry instructor in in the state in in Louisiana you are required right now you have to be an NRA instructor to be eligible to be a concealed carry permit instructor. Or a post firearms instructor there's a couple additional things that have been in there and just get approval from the state police, which means you submit them what you intend to teach. Sign off on that, and then there are some rules that go along with that Louisiana says, you gotta spend a certain amount of time on these topics, right? Right or you're teaching something like the basic in our a pistol class right now and it says someone teaching the basic and array pistol class. They could teach that lesson the way that the NRA puts it out and then add an additional one hour of access prevention in their child access prevention and. That provides a check in the box, and that's probably honestly what most people are teaching and what most people are going to get a concealed carry permit, and rarely you could probably stretch it out and say nationwide but survey Louisiana Yeah I would think a lot of our listeners would be maybe interested in that maybe like that could be kind of rewarding in a way and I, know some people I guess like you said there's the kitchen table tea drinker dude but. Some people make it a business and they really after it, and then some people go. This is kind of a fun hobby thing or maybe it's a little bit of a second amendment outreach like I want to help get more people trained a little bit and get certified more people carrying in general good thing. Yeah it's. Is. A good thing I just man you have to put up with all different kind of people. Just, don't know if I could do it. So I really don't think I. Could I have my own experiences of doing? Concealed carry courses I've I've I've done a couple other places at one with you and renewal which was real straightforward and we did it and they weren't there were only a few people in the class maybe four or five people and. Know knuckleheads I've but I've been in classes where they literally was like you have one or two people who seems like all they WanNa ask the instructor for eight hours is win. Can I shoot this bad guy in my house Tell me all the ways of the reasons. That the bad guy. But the bad thing is, is that that what happens is is that guy will find himself in a situation. He'll pull his gun out he'll shoot and they'll say, but my my. Teacher told me that I could. This was a good shoot. Yeah, they he'll reference that. So that's a big liability on these guys who were training these folks. It's gotta be having. Questions or folks in the asking goofy questions obviously just about every class. Right is that people show up and ask the big question they have in their mind legally is wind can I shoot someone? It's like more subscribe to why how many ways can we not have to shoot the person the first one? Right and that's the way that I look at the concealed carry class, and that's really the message that I tried to send home is let me teach you all of the ways that we can avoid using the firearm in the first place in all the reasons why you wouldn't have to use it. I'd rather believe my class with a you know with a healthy respect or fear of wow. That's the last thing I WANNA do. A that's the last choice rast option. Sometimes lights. Last choice. Sometimes, it's forced right you know sometimes it's the first thing because that's what allows us to be able to meet our goal efficiently while keeping the risk level as low as we can keep it different options and I think that that responsible decision making is really what it's all about is that you know try to avoid it any way that we can avoid it and not live by on windows the law allow us to use deadly force, but it's when you have to write. You're an innocent person you've got no other choice but to use deadly force because you're probably going to die otherwise. Been Really, it doesn't really matter stand your ground doesn't matter about castle doctrine doesn't matter about all these different state laws. If you couldn't afford it, you couldn't afford it somebody else put you in that position but I think the guys that are asking those types of questions in class have already made up their mind. you know, I, think they have. Like a class I think the. Reason I think they're just going to go. No, he was in my house I I had every right to yeah I I really do believe that given my experiences like those guys are just looking for reassurance and then give the people who I get the impression. That well, there are people who yes. Maybe. It was allowed legally, but should you have? Could you have done something else? There seems like there's a lot of in the in the news nationally you see that pretty often you follow a lot of. Examples of shootings and we can learn a lot from those. Now we can, and I think it's you know it's our responsibility really to Monday morning quarterback kind of figure out how to learn from it. How not to repeat history? Yeah. Certainly. Thought it out. I mean there's you know there's this is a controversial and but I'll go there. Go there the Kyle in house thing lately I'm like, you know I mean he probably was justified and I guess the hold an investigation and trial and all that stuff but. He. Shouldn't say probably he probably he was justified I guess but it's just like man, it feels like. Could have been many decisions before all of that got to that point where he wouldn't have had to. Get into a gunfight. Weather I mean just don't show up. quarterback. But if you don't WanNa get a gunfight, don't go to where a gun fights going to happen. Clearly there's a lot of truth in that. Right I mean, if you look at the videos you've got the first video where he's clearly running from the guy he wasn't looking for a fight that right. But that's all the decisions that made up to it. You know by showing up to a very heated confrontation with a with a rifle. Rifle. Expect fact that you're going to be a target of some of that. That people are going to push those. With the expectation that really you're not going to do anything with it right? Because that's what's going to happen. Most of the time is that you know people have the control and they don't get pushed to the point where they're forced to use the firearm. Right? He ended up getting pushed to that point. So I mean if you wanted to say I if our goal at the. End of the day we were really trying to be safe right? If that's the goal is safety and going home hugging family living till the next day. Yes. There in the first place there. Yeah. I. Mean. Unless that's your job and you have to be earlier police officer or whatever. But. Yeah. All right. So because we just said open carry versus concealed carry, what are your thoughts? That's that's a big candle opened up just throwing. He's like. Let's just start fights with everybody listening. I absolutely love especially in Louisiana we have a constitutional right to open carry a firearm. I am so glad that we have that and I've and I've used that right right growing up especially hunting and stuff we not even you know prior to me being of age to be able to get a concealed handgun permit you know sixteen seventeen years old I was already carrying a handgun hunting now. Lead. The hunting lease and we were in a very rural area and go to the local store go get lunch and sandwiches and that kind of stuff so I'm glad that we have it. Of for the purpose of of personal offense self defense I think it's silly. You know. I am a much bigger fan of of conceal, carry having the option of using it making the decision you didn't it's not. It doesn't make sense to use it right sometimes, it suicide bring a gun into play and you Kinda give up. You know that decision when you're open carrying a firearm remember here locally here Mandeville a couple of years ago and had the. Gas Station at the gas station has a a customer that walked into the gas station. I was really upset because the cashier was not of descent Middle Eastern, or something like that. He's yes he's throwing insults the cashier eventually throwing chips and stuff like that cashier police have been called. The guy was already you know pushed or asked to leave the store you know directed kind of pushed out of the store at that point right and you had the guy open carrying a gun that went in injected himself in that situation. I don't know the guy, and so I don't know truly you know his thought process on any of this to May just looking at the video it kind of looked like he positioned himself to to show the gun. Hey, buddy. I've got this firearm here. This is the wrong convenience store kind of. Right Here, you want to answer that. No but he the bad guy, the guy who was the aggressor. Eventually kind of went for the gun they did because he could see that the guy had a gun and that's the first thing you want to go for is like. Saying troll that I'm saying the bad guy aggressor went for the did go and. The guy was at that point kind of forced. The hand was forced to Hammers Force you know and it's we could talk about that one a good bit right. But I think that that's one of those that I throw in the file cabinet of the category of Yes legally that was justifies but completely didn't have to have to happen and I think the ultimate trigger on that one was the customer finally leaves and the irate customer finally leaves goes gets his car. You can see the car squat down on camera when he said Senate and then the Guy Open carrying a gun goes out the store to get rally. act. To go get the license plate and that's what triggers it. And so when the when the shooting took place? Yes fully justified but it was also one of those that you know it was avoidable. You know what would decision locked the Guy Out, right? Yeah. Right. Lock the door by you know. It's interesting and I think we can learn a lot from those. It's like FPDA and one of the things that I've seen on fpu lot is either have people who. Are. Very, eager to get in gun fight and so they do things wrong because of that because I'm on this show I've got him here and I've got A. Gun they got a gun. I'm going to shoot somebody or you have somebody WHO's not willing to turn on the mean Jean and go. Okay. Are seriously getting attacked. Now you need to do something right but but there's also that whole if we when we kind of go. Okay listen. there. Are Things you can do before the gun comes out and if you are concealed carrying now you've got options I think versus if you're open carrying, it's going to be like that dude has a gun or that guys grabbing for a gun versus you know, let me think about this I can be the scared snivelling bystander in the convenience store. So they don't even know I have a gun until I. Go behind chip rack or something like that. You have an advantage, right? You know you can maybe manufacturing advantage or wait for an advantage or like I said, choose not to even use it in the first place because. It doesn't help you meet your goal and it's that that has a tendency to go away some right when it's open carry nothing did the big misconception is well, if I've got the firearm in such a way that people can see. They're they're going to be scared and not do something in the first place and you know that may be true for a lot of people but. There's a lot of people be carrying guns said you know even locally to new. Orleans and stuff and home in this area you've had people that have had their firearms stolen our briberies because the bad guy says, well, this. August. Right reactionary gap. FORSMAN officers that are salted every single day and week that are open carrying firearms. Know it's the guns not magical and and you know and I think that like I said I like open carry I think that it should be constitutionally protected. I think she concealed carry should be constantly. Or. For that matter you know. But I think for personal offense it just makes a whole lot more sense to keep it hidden unless you need it. Strategically tactically man because we we dealt with that in some PD's to where. I mean the guy was targeted I mean because he went for his gun right and you're the first one to get noticed and and when you. When you introduce a gun into anything it escalates it a little bit more automatically when you're right concealed carry. You don't have to introduce it. So Baird, I, got a text this morning over my buddy of mine and this is. Or a phone call that you get all the time. We get asked to recommend guns all the time. We'll go to get one gun show to get. So it's so funny to me because it's always like well, I, think they think that I know like there's the one gun this. Problems and the only good gun apparently which one do you like this or this one? This one this actually he he he gave me two models or to makers maker manufacturers, and maybe that's because all the all his shop had right and what's it for? Well, I'm not going to conceal carry it. I'm just WANNA go shooter at the range or whatever it was like. Okay. But it's going to be handgun. So probably a nine millimeter supply of full-size that'll be the most he wanted to get a forty. So I want to get either this one or this one and forty why forty I what? What more power because when I go hog, I want to be able to use it there. Oh, okay. Different thing never mind for meter. You know maybe ten millimeter if you're if you're wanting semi auto and saying, you know, hey, look at ten millimeter. But it's just. I get this question all the time, right? What gun, we'll get Barrett certainly the way that I look at it as this starting all fi you can you can equate it to vehicles right what car should I get you kinda started off with that is what are you going to use it for? You know if you plan on pulling a travel trailer around town well, then the Toyota Prius probably not going to be the option if you're planning to put it on the racetrack and run circles a whole bunch. Of Time and might trucks outside is probably going to be rolled over at that yeah right. Yeah and so COMTEX always very important. You know I like very simple design guns but I think at the top of the list the firearm needs to be reliable right you need to have the expectation. If you're pressing the trigger on it, it is going to go bang. If you think about automobiles did y'all learn a drive on an automatic transmission or a standard transmission. kind of kind of both. Manual manual manual transmission. annuals well, years before that legally try exactly I'm already kind of driving around with standard transmission on some of that being rule property and you know some of being roads and learning how to drive trailers and all that. But if you think about the the standard transmission, you got the additional pedal on the ground. Now, we've got all the gears that we have to work with. We have to pay attention to your the RPM gauge or pay attention to the noise of the motor. You've got the additional complications when you got the person behind you and you're on your hill right. Yeah. Stop by we're on a hill. Oh crap and the guy just run the red light foot bumper grabbed. Exactly, that's when you just start backing up just a little bit and he's like Oh crap. So. If you think about trying to train someone on a vehicle in two, thousand and twenty, which one is going to be easier. The one you got all those extra variables that come into play. One that you just put it in gear and you've got a gas pedal brake pedal. And that's how firearms are is that you know let's not go after something super complicated. Let's get rid of every single variable that we can get rid of. I'm a big Fan of modern striker fired semiautomatic handguns you know your Glock Smith and Wesson MP's Springfield xt's big three, sixty five rights pedia ten is a lot of them that fall into that category that that we put in that track record of being reliable firearms easy to run easy to run. If you wanted to go bang cool press the trigger you can expect the firearm we go bang don't want to go bang well, just like every other gun we follow firearm safety rules right and as well as making sure we're doing things like keeping it in a holster and keeping that trigger protected when it's not in our hands. You know right. But that's about as simple as we can get. So when we're talking about personal defense, you know that's what I'm usually recommended. Got Their hand it's gotta fit their lifestyle but but seriously, but which gun should I get? Baron. Towards it's also this because they want to grow a sponsor. which which sponsor we now I mean. I kind of lean towards and we get to shoot a lot of different guns you do to right we honestly there are a lot of good guns. There are way more good guns and there are not great guns. I, feel know I tell people that make up self right number. When you walk into the gun store, most of what you're looking at kind of goes back to the car thing. You're looking at is wrong for the context of what we're talking about. So we can narrow that down a tremendous amount. Of shooting that category you're right there's there's a good bit of stuff that that is in there. So there's a lot of different options, different manufacturers, different sizes. Yeah. Right now, just whatever gun is available, right but maybe the better question for these days would be ironsides or read. Everybody's starting to get on the Red Dot bandwagon. I mean that's that's going to be the norm not too far off every single gun will be will either have played on it or we'll come with a red dot I kind of think of it like. When we started putting magnified scopes on rifles and this is really before problem most raw us. But I guess, I know it through hearing from my dad, my grandfather talk about it that. All these old shooters and hunters were losing their minds were like you're gonNA put a four power scope. That's just like cheating. It's you know like, why do you need all that stuff on there and now it's kind of strange to see a rifle with just iron sights right Now definitely is. The. Red Dots clearly make things easier at distance right Yeah. Without a doubt well, if you look at Most self-defense shootings like we look at somebody like the data that Tom Gibbons puts out we look at ninety, two, ninety, three percent of shootings taking place in about twenty one feeding closer. You know that's that's not very far distances and I think that were the red dot shines is well beyond those distances. So I kind of look at red dots. The same way that we looked at lasers a decade ago is that you know it's not going to make a badge shooter a better shooter you know it can make certain things easier. To solve the. I've I can't hit the target therefore Anita Red Dot because if you're getting. Laser right or. If you're doing everything else wrong on that trigger Yank in the hell out of it it's not gonNA help anything expect those skills to fall apart under duress anyway right and so you know I've been tested and evaluated them I currently using one on my carry gun and been testing that out really for the most of this year. That was expensive. I I'm carrying a gun that at the time you. Had to have it milled. So I took my signature side gone. You know senator spent another two hundred dollars on a paid another hundred and fifty dollar for a dapper plate you know in the Several hundred dollars for the Red Dot. Yeah and so I think for the large majority of people. The answer really is go take a training class and spend that money on ammunition. They're far better off there but you know to take skills to the next level and to start expanding on the circumstances that they may have to use a firearm under you know that extreme distances maybe they're talking about taking the head shot on the active shooter in the parking lot is their families pinned down kind of thing you know well, that's where the red dot johns and you know you're not trying to line up does make things easier but there's a big learning curve that goes along with it. Golf seen people struggle the gun out there and it's not like a rifle words automatically in line with the I. Drive learn to get it out there or the glass is ninety degrees to their I drive out there. They're you're missing the point they want to buy a new gun. Audience. They want to buy a new gun in a new toy, a new red dot. That's what they want. It's OK I give you permission. You can go by the Red Dot and the pistol they already so. You're taking over the great enablers. We're trying to enable you just say spends money. Yeah. The quote I'm doing finger finger quotations the gun expert at gun talk said I needed to buy. That ought to work. Yeah. Every time every time we'll get you killed on the streets. Doesn't even work at my house. Hollow son is doing great things. With red dots right now, they're coming out with some solid stuff. You know they granted I'm running the big fat wider bright red dot on my slim frame. Glock forty eight right now. So overhangs on the side care. People worry about the thing, but it's A function guy. Doing, some great stuff. So I if honestly if I was going out, really did it dispersed another red a different gun that's the direction I'm going in. Yes. Typically you know maybe the tragic on Mars or the or the. the aim point you know they came out with that enclose optic you know has great to limit bulkier in the battery life is not as long by it's you know seems to be a really solid optic that you know is. A lot of people are certainly using liking. There's a ton of stuff coming out. I, mean there's I mean, this year is. The Year of the red dot kind of ramping up, you're getting a lot more options, more guns that are ready for red dots. You see it. It's more manufacturers like getting. Email with this red dot ready and every every email that comes through. I just. Six months ago. Really. Glock. Yes. That's that's the norm. Right? Everybody says that we put out videos. Come. On why didn't they launch the MOS version before the right? That's not how it works like. You they want you to buy both of them. It's not one or the other. Colors. Profit. For profit. Oh, most companies are yeah. I didn't realize that it's a profit. Interesting. So. So training, you're traveling all over the country training folks and doing all that stuff for people listening. Is something that you run across or you you kind of advise people have like, Hey, here's one or two things that you can work on either at your range or maybe at home even it's a dry fire thing is like, Hey, this one or two things will really help you you know. I think did perfect world we jump into a training class right? I think where I see a lot of people struggling is presentation from the holster is getting good smooth presentation from the holster and not getting hung up on cover garments or not mitigating risk where they needed mitigate risk right and I think that that's one area that you know doesn't take ammunition to practice with it, but you've got to make sure that your practice in the. Right thing. So ideally, you're learning it in front of an instructor I put into practice in there but if you can't get in there, you know maybe it's jump on find some good videos on that topic and learn how to get the gun out of the holster, bringing it to your line of sight you know getting that gun out there in parallel with your out of sight out on target without pointing a gun at yourself right now. People. Same thing coming back in learn how to get the firearm back into the holster without trying to dig the nose into your body slowly, right? Exactly. The slowly working on the front right if you're working in a pen care in the front of the body, you know that making sure that you're open in the hips up as you're region for the gun and same thing before you're putting it away that way the. Getting you know clearing your body get away from you. Yeah. I definitely think that that's you know something that can be worked on where people can learn to really get that gun and aren't necessarily getting Bad Reps. With the shooting portion, right dry fire practice and stuff. It can be used at a at a higher skill level to reinforced something that you already know that you're doing perfect. Right. But without the the noise without the recall without the feedback on the target, you may be actually doing it wrong and so I you know I'm. Always. Hesitant to you know to have someone doing dry fire practice that has not built that skill correctly already true. Yes. We are you practicing if you've never been taught just pulling the trigger. Let's go yank on a gun. Yeah. That's all it is. Yeah. So I. Think we all have to go out and look for more AMMO. because it's out there it's out there. Yes. Gun. Shop today they had they had cases of Nyala meter. You'RE GONNA pay a little bit more than you used to but. The nature of the beast and that's it. You know that that's that's the penalty. For not purchasing it nine months ago. Right and it's you know it's the penalty I paid several months ago when I bought a bunch to have on hand for students and stuff isn't it? Yeah. I needed more on hand and everybody's paying more. You know the gun stores are making less money now and munition than they weren't right go. Yeah. So it's you know everybody's paying more So if you're going to get it yeah without a doubt, you know you're going to be paying you know at least twice as much as you used to pay for. Winters codes those were the good old days. Winter's coming six months ago. Don't wait to start shopping. It's always coming. You're right. True fact you're right yeah. True. Fag will bear. Thanks for being with US man no I'm glad I could be here. This is fun. It's always good to talk with somebody who's your on the range all the time you're train people all the time and and doing it. So it's not like a theory thing it's like you see a lot. 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Who Is The LISK?

Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer

44:25 min | Last month

Who Is The LISK?

"The following podcasts contains explicit language and content that may not be suitable for all listeners from ide- joke productions. This is unraveled. A seven part podcast. We're gonna show you the everything you think you know about the long serial killer. Investigation is wrong. Hi billy alex's welcome to app seven yes we are. Finally here are last episode. I know it's crazy that this is our last one. This journey has been so long. But for those of you listening if you've enjoyed unravels and you want to hear more from billion. I please be on the lookout for our next installment of unraveled. Which will be coming soon. It's another crazy story. It's completely different than the one you've heard but equally shocking amazing fascinating. Yeah it's completely different. It can be can be any more different. But it's it's there are so so much similar elements to it and there will be a lot of jaw-dropping moments like you had in this one so make sure you subscribe in that way. You won't miss it but for now we still have this episode in lots more to talk about when it comes to the long island serial killer so i want to start by saying we've covered a lot of ground since episode one and that interview. We did with chris. That got started on this wild journey. You and i don't know how many people that we interviewed but we need a lot probably over three dozen people and that's because there's just so much to the story so much and to be honest we would need another seven hours to go through all of it. We spent a lot of time talking about chief. James burke former suffolk county police chief. And by now you understand how he and former district attorney thomas. Boca took several actions that were very damaging to long island. Serial killer investigation and we believe these actions ultimately prevented this case from being solved years ago when it could have been for. Every shocking story were heard about james burke. There was another more shocking story that followed some of these stories. We couldn't even corroborate so for legal reasons. Were unable to share them with you. I wish we could. Of course the one person we want to speak to the most is james burke himself before the end of this episode. You'll hear what happens when we try so with that being said. Thank you for sticking around for our final episode in to wrap up our investigation into the investigation. We certainly have new contacts and insight into why this case hasn't been solved but questions remain. So who do we think that in order to learn about the killer. We need to address the victims. And we're going to separate the ten by the google four the manor ville two and the four identified. We'll explain which of those we believe are connected to each other so let's start with the gilgo for who have the most in common with one another. We know that in life for victims. Maureen melissa megan and amber all had very similar body types. They were just about five feet tall in all very petite. We also know. They advertised on craigslist. Each of them. We know they were contacted via phone. All went missing within the summer months. So there is a pattern. That's obvious here. We know that they were evenly. Spaced out five hundred yards apart in a row on the north side of ocean parkway along gogo beach for a long time. It's been widely reported that the gilgo four were all found wrapped in burlap however one of our sources gave us a never before her tip. That isn't necessarily true. Remember what police commissioner geraldine hearts said to you. A bathroom burlap during interview with her. There's a few things that when we're talking about releasing information early on in the investigation. There was a leak. The women were found in burlap and it was a strategic link to try and see who might be related to burlap. you know. Maybe it's a fisherman. Maybe it's a gardener or something like that re aware that that was leak. I'm where and i continue to hold to the fact that never officially discussed that piece so she basically confirmed yes. We've never said conclusively that the gilgo four victims were wrapped in burlap. And that's actually thing that's pretty commonly known like anyone who knows. His case believes that those four victims wrapped in burlap and on top of that the suffolk county police department refused to release more information so even when the public wants to help. They're unable to because they don't have the information to do so which begs the question once again. Why won't they release more information. Then we have. The four unidentified remains that were found along. Ocean parkway fire l. Indo asian male peaches and her toddler and we still don't know their names. We don't know their identities and everything about them seem so different like they couldn't have been killed by the same person but when we were there are perception changed and this is from the first time that we drove ocean parkway together meet alexis. So we're driving down robert moses causeway and we're heading in towards ocean parkway. Let's say the killer was coming from this area. Look at all the places that they have stopped along this road. Wow this is still pretty populace like it's prior to the bridge. It's it's still where all the junctions are. And there's a bunch of exit. You wouldn't do it here when you hear you understand a single killer theory lot better like this is such a specific area that you understand it a lot more if you see it because it long on a map it looks far away like oh. They're really not that close to each other but The boldness of dumping hair at all doesn't seem like something many people would have. You know what i mean like. It is such pacific place and it is risky so you just understand the single killer theory a lot more. I completely agree. There are examples of multiple killers using the same dumping grounds. The killing fields in texas twenty five acres bordering called her oilfield near interstate forty. Five thirty bodies have been found there since nineteen seventy one from seventy one to seventy three nine. Teenage girls were found there from eighty one to eighty six sixteen and young women were found there then. Four bodies of teenage girls from ninety six ninety seven twenty five acres of land multiple serial killers. They just liked that spot. Now when it comes to peaches and the toddler peaches was a case that i had covered in. I think two thousand two. And the fact that it's to this case and that there is a toddler involved just shook me to my core. There are so many different aspects to the peaches case than the other victims. Peaches was black. Peaches was connected to a baby. Part of peaches was found in hempstead late. State park in a tub in like a rubbermaid tub different so many different things than these other victims. So while i'm reluctant to connect peaches to the others a torso in one location. Hempstead lake park in an identifying feature of peaches and identifying a baby. i. I don't know how to explain this it's awful. It's sickening but to put the baby on ocean parkway is in line and on par with what happened with mandeville to in in. That's why i'm so reluctant to say they're not connected because it's it's so specific and it seems like a very early amount. Peaches was even before them all all right. Moving on to the mandeville to valerie. Mac and jessica taylor. We really do think the key to the investigation might lie manner ville. And here's why we have the body parts found in ocean parkway they're connected to the torsos that were found in mandeville jessica taylor and valerie mac or both white and fatigue. Yeah and just like the bill four. They went missing in the summer. They were dismembered and they were discarded in two different places and for that reason we originally thought that the manifield to were not killed by the same killer. Bill go four looking at the evidence and actually standing on both locations. We sort of feel differently. So let's go back to when we walk the woods in manner veld to see this location for ourselves. We just drove about three miles without seeing any other road. And now we see an intersection. And this is where he decides park and drop off her torso. Somebody would have known these roads would have had been on these roads before to know this here especially in the dark then. Presumably the killer of our mac would live not too far from here. Because you wouldn't as a reminder the torsos of valerie mac and jessica. Taylor were dumped in this manner location in two thousand and two thousand three respectively and both cases the remains were found not long after the victims were killed however in each case the identifying parts the head and the hands were found along ocean parkway and they were not discovered until the search for shannan. Gilbert commenced in two thousand and ten. This proved that ocean parkway was a much more reliable than a much more secret place to dump remains than in mandeville serial killers do change their mo serial killers get complacent. Joel rifkin the most famous of long island. Serial killers started very cautious. His first murder was heidi baulch. He killed her at his house in. East meadow dismembered her body. He put her head minus her teeth in a paint bucket and left it on a golf course in hopewell new jersey. He dumped her torso might his fingertips in the east river and her legs were found in a creek near jefferson township new jersey. His next victims were found in the hudson the east river coney island creek and paterson new jersey by the time joel rifkin was disposing of his fourteenth victim. He didn't go through the trouble of driving to new jersey or new york or dismembering them. He dumped the bodies whole long island. Which is where he lived. So obviously we see that. Serial killers often change their mo in terms of body disposal based on convenience based on their ability to not get caught and based on sort of their comfort in being visceral killer so they are very Their arrogance so when they don't get caught several times they'll just do less work and just lean into that arrogance a little more absolutely so seeing that. It's not the same guy. Because of the dismemberment is just plain wrong we really think all six the go four plus the mandeville to are more than likely connected to one killer right and we can't forget about shannon gilbert so many people think there's no way that shannon could be connected to the others because she brought a driver with her and her client ultimately cooperated with the police. Here's john ray. The gilbert family attorney. I believe that shannon indubitably is connected to the other victims. they're all sex workers they're all more or less in the same level of sex work in their lives. They're all found in the same area. They're all found laying on top of the soil nut buried within it and they're all consistent in the sense that they're not from the everyday community who happened to be staying. Hang out in a bar and then got picked up and left. Every one of them was contacted through an agency or an advertisement made by these these girls while i was on the fence personally about whether or not shannon was connected i. I'm suddenly finding it very interesting. That she so close if he's other murdered sex workers that meet all these variables in those parallels to the gilgo. Four are worth looking harder at an in worth giving more weights absolutely now before we get into suspects. Let's talk through some of the theories that can help us narrow the search for this killer through the course of our investigation. We pose the single double killer theory too many of our subjects. When we were on long island. I asked commissioner heart if she had a stance on the subject. He's not clear. If there's a suffo- county prevailing theory at this point one killer two killers multiple killers. Why is that. So that's another piece. And really when i came over it was. It was interesting to me. How how the district attorney at the time spider and the commissioner at the time dormer really locked in on the theory which was a complete odds with one another and was really based solely on speculation so to me. I didn't think it was helpful at all to really turn off your your thinking to every other possibility in lock in on on one theory of the case. I don't see where that's helpful. So they're certainly arguments to be made strong events for both but but one thing that we've done as a team together is really to keep an open mind to make sure that we are simply following the evidence wherever it leads. Now let's hear from the former chief of detectives for suffolk county during the investigation. Dominic farren. I agree with what the commissioner is now saying and what the law enforcement people now saying. All theories are open and this gets back to the whole controversy between the district attorney. Spo making his theory of multiple killers and Dorm saying Commission dorm saying it's one. I think they're both right. It's unlikely that one person killed all those people but it certainly is possible so as far as actually making in determination in forming an opinion on whether there is one killer multiple killers involved in this case. The truth is it's kind of impossible. Given the limited information that we have if suffolk county police department chose to release more information. We may be able to hypothesize a little bit more accurately but her hands are kind of tie there. But i will say that when. I left to go to long island to start this investigation. I there was no way in hell. It could be a single killer but once we got there my mind in my opinion on that really started to shift and I'm leaning farther in that direction than i ever expected to. So next we want to talk about where the killer might possibly live and what they might do for a living now. We know the women went missing in the summer. The six known women the ones that we know their identities went missing the summer. This beach community. Could the killer have rented a summer beach house or potentially was he a fulltime resident detective. Who is the head of detectives at the time believes the killer had these women for a prolonged period of time. He believes that he actually tortured these women. Then i hate to speculate. But you're asking me and does no harm because so many other people have speculated. I think i think it's a house. I think he has a to himself. So i think he's a loner or he certainly was alone the time that he that he took these women and i think he had his way with them and i think he was able to prolong the agony with them for probably more than one day now. Does this mean that the killer would need to live somewhere remote in order to have the isolation required for something like that. Then there's also the idea about driving the bodies in your car. Does that mean he lived close. Or did he take a real risk of being pulled over with a dead body by driving. Far away so Former chief of detectives dominik grown talked about the killer needing to be someone who wouldn't seem out of place parked along a desolate road. A reason to be out here and he certainly had to have a good excuse if he got caught in the middle of this if a police officer stopped him again. Mrs speculation which i hate to do but i liked the idea of someone who has a reason to be an felt very comfortable and all the plots worker who was high hired seasonally to work in in any of the beaches Somebody who cut the grass. The state hired employees to pick up the garbage along the grass. Any of those people would have an excuse. Vedic seems to be here. And they also have the ability to to go back and check on their victims relive the crime so to speak so the idea here is is that somebody didn't feel worried about their vehicle being pulled over on the side of the road. So is it a service vehicle. Is it a law enforcement vehicle. Is it you know somebody. Is it a mail delivery truck. It's gotta be something that belongs on the side of a road that doesn't doesn't draw attention at all. There's a lot of ambiguity in of what this guy could be doing. We're being very pragmatic and practical about thinking like it must be a service worker. This could be so crazy. He could have rolled up in some other vehicle. We don't know and of course speculation. That's all we're doing but we can never underestimate the mind of a psychopath. Who wants to kill because they will do anything. They will do anything to feed that need. So let's look back at the victims themselves and what they can tell us about the psychology of the killer slash killers. We know the victims were small in stature. Is this a power thing. Or a practicality thing maybe the killer isn't the tallest or the strongest maybe he picked victims. He knew he could overpower or maybe it was just a fetish thing. Maybe they're petite size is what attracted him and we also have one victim that was born with male genitalia. It was the asian male found in women's clothing and he was brutally bludgeoned to death. Could that victim have been a trans sex worker in the ninety s to the killer get surprised and perhaps enrage when he discovered that this wasn't a biological woman but in fact a sex worker with male genitalia. That's a possibility but it can be asked that that's a that's a really like projecting vis a healthy brains logic onto things that have no rhyme or reason to it. Perhaps yes but we have more than theories over the last ten years. Several suspects have been talked about and after the break. We're going to dig into those suspects. 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He did his killings on long island. His victims were all found in the early nineties but he wasn't connected until two thousand thirteen and this left him out in about. Maybe he was free to commit the list murders if in fact he did do it. Here's the thing that really makes me and alexis looking harder. He lived in mandeville. So if you've been paying attention valerie. Mac jessica taylor. Their torsos were found in mandeville in their body parts were found in oak beech so of course given our curiosity isn't all we've done so far. We wanted to try at least to talk to bear off ourselves daily. John manley our you. So i understand that you represented or you do represent down bitter off. Okay well we are out here doing a seven part podcast about long out. Serial killer suffolk police. How they've conducted the investigation and we would like to interview mr mitchell What is it in reference. It's a reference to the long serial killer investigation the two victims valerie. Mac and jessica taylor founded mandeville and their body parts fountain along gilgo beach and his name is just come up numerous times in our reporting and we would like to speak the source then. Okay i'll speak to him. I'll be perfectly honest. I'd be perfectly honest with the belly. I can't imagine any scenario where i haven't talked to anybody about anything bit. Roth declined to speak with us but lex. How do you feel about bit role as a suspect why. I've said this several times. I think because bit ralph youth understand it. Ralph is behind bars When he was arrested certainly they had a warrant to search houses. Property has computers. They if they had focused on him as a serial killer which they believe him to be. They did the due-diligence to check his employment records. Check where he was when he was there. I think they've done very meticulous accounting of bit. Ross whereabouts i think if it was bit raw we'd no is better off by truthfully like maybe not the earlier victims. Maybe where the technology was. Scans like two thousand four two thousand nine hundred speech like maybe maybe they can't prove that and bit ralph would have been the most amazing scapegoat if there was a police conspiracy. You know what i mean. If there was people within the police department that were doing bad things you have this guy that was just recently connected to to sex workers being murdered. let's pin it pin gilgo on him. Now bit ralph has said that yes his. His semen was found inside those victims. But that was that was sex that he had As a customer. He did not kill them that that is his defense that he's sticking to and they clearly as of now have not found profound enough connections or evidence to indict him on murders related to the long island serial killer so my instinct is to say that he probably didn't do it but maybe he's just that good so it's certainly possible that he did not ruling anything out so suspect number. Two is james beset so beside. He's kind of a lesser-known suspect to the broader public. But he was one that was connected to shannon gilbert so according to john ray shannon was a client of besets net connections to a beach as well and also to james burke and to some of our star player so he is interesting in that way. So james set also committed suicide two days after shannon's remains were found in a lot of people were sort of intrigued by him as a possibility because he owned a garden nursery in the nursery specifically Connects him to this burlap connection that we hear over and over again in terms of in relation to the google for and his connection. That he was a client of shannon's he commits suicide. Two days after shannon's remains are found. it's strange. It's weird but there's nothing really else that connects it to that other than that burlap suspect number three is peter hackett rights. So for those of you who are familiar with the less case. One of the most well known suspects is hackett and he's a suspect for several reasons because of his odd behavior. The days following shannon. Gilbert's disappearance dr. Peter hackett college students mother and lied about the fact that he ran a home for wayward girls and they had recently taken care of shannon in that she was quote unquote okay when interrogated by the police hackett completely denied it until phone records proved that he had in fact called mary. Gilbert and also the fact that many believe that he's either responsible for shannon's death or knows way more than he's willing to say so. The gilbert family attorney is convinced. That hackett is his man. Evidence can be overwhelmingly pointing to one individual. I say it points this hacking hockey. Call mary gilbert and told mary gilbert that he had shannon in his whole that he ran a home for girls that is evidence of his guilt. Hackett has always stood out as a suspicious guy but could have killed shannon and the others. Well my opinion is he certainly an odd duck. But we can't ignore the fact. That he's on. The periphery of the suffolk county. Police department that he lives beach which is in proximity to both shannon and close proximity to the gilgo for and the other body parts and he calls mary and made up a lie. We know he's a liar. I just think there Hack it is a hard person to ignore. Because i don't think a an innocent person acts the way. He did absolutely for the record john. Bit ralph. Peter have denied being connected to the long island serial killings. We've reached out to them either directly or through their attorneys but neither of them responded to a request for comment so suspects number four and i say suspects for a reason because there are theories out there that these murders may have been orchestrated by a group john ray reminder shannon's nine one one call and on that call she can be heard saying they're trying to kill me not he is trying to kill me but they and we've only been told about. You know joseph brewer. Who was her. You know john that night in presence and it's hard to believe that shannon would think her her bodyguard. Michael packer driver was also trying to kill her. So if it's not michael pack if it's not just brewer. Who is the day that shannon is offering to in could there have been other participants present that night. What did she say on the nine one. One call been that had been released prior to it being released to you this way. The suffolk county police department and the medical examiner's office both said that shannon said on the tape. They're trying to kill me. I'm able to confirm that. The the police said the words and the medical examiner said the words that shining said they're trying to kill me they are not the exact words that shannon said. And it's not the only time she said it that i can confirm because they they put it out there that this was this was on the tape. But that's not quite accurate and it does matter the difference matters and it also matters to whom she said it. About whom as well. They never discussed that. That's very important in this case so that brings us to yet another suspect which could be somebody unknown on person or persons. Of course it could be a killer that none of us have ever heard one or more people who benefited from burke shutting down the list investigation with time gone memories have faded with this died in hard. Evidence will be harder and harder to come by. It could be somebody that is not on our radar and all. So where does this leave us. It leaves us tracking down the one person who's become the center of our investigation. The one person we've been wanting to talk to looking for james burke after the break. So you guys know we've taken hard-luck in burke yes. Our podcast is obviously focused. A lot on perk as being responsible for botching the long island serial killer investigation but did he kill the investigation just to hide his sexual habits or because he might be directly connected to the murders. So let's talk then through the burke saga because nobody's going to ask. Do you really think is suspect. You really think he could have done. And here's at least where i stand on this. I think that burqas capable all. I think that burke has a proclivity towards sex workers. I think he when he was in the first precinct. Think oak beach was part of his jurisdiction as Somewhere he was patrolling. I think there's a lot of red flags that tether burke to oak beech and also to the investigation for obvious reasons. But i think i think the thing is about burke which doesn't Look good for him. Is that there are so many coincidences. Yeah so we have a guy who is a sex addict. He's interested in snuff films. He's frequented sex workers oh by the way when he was made chief of police. He kicked the feds out of the investigation of gilgo beach. Is everybody with this number of coincidences. Because i'm uncomfortable with that. I'm uncomfortable with that. And that's one of the things that i found myself and i actually never really use this language before but i asked both bologne and heart this. Are you comfortable with the fact. And i've never used that before. Are you comfortable with the fact that your former chief of police is a suspect in the long island. Serial killer case the that that idea that being comfortable. No you can't be comfortable with it. Because that's messed up and i've never heard of it before that that chief of police of a giant Police force was actually a suspect in a series of burners. It just doesn't happen throughout this series. We asked the question. Why was james. Burke put forward as a candidate for the chief of police position given all the indiscretions of his past who knew the truth about burke but failed to speak up in two thousand twelve. An anonymous letter was delivered to county executive steve bologne which called attention to burke shady record notably a very damning internal affairs report from nineteen ninety-five but burke was appointed as chief anyway based in part a recommendation from da. Tom soda in the past few weeks. We were able to obtain a copy of james burke entire personnel file with the suffolk county. Police department. In it was a bombshell. Right in berks file is a one page document from the nineteen ninety. Five internal affairs investigation. Remember that's when he got busted for among other things having sex with low rickenbacker a sex worker and his police vehicle all well. This document is basically him agreeing to plead guilty to conduct unbecoming an officer and a green and give up fifteen sick or vacation days for his punishment that we all know but it's what follows that's shocking in item number three. Well i'll just go ahead and read it. It says quote sergeant burks specifically acknowledges that he consulted with his attorney. Thomas j sposa esquire prior to executing this document and is voluntarily submitting to its terms and quote. Alright so spoleto was burks attorney. In the nineteen ninety-five internal affairs investigation proof positive that spotted knew about burke shady past he concealed it and continue to help burke climbed the ranks all the way to chief of police evidence of their web of deceit. In black. And white so lex. We've come this far and although we could go on and talk to hundred more about this case about the corruption suffolk county and the cover ups that we'd know about. It was time to talk to the person at the center of our investigation bill. Jensen i may Journalist and producer. And i'm looking for the lawyer. John marengo feet. Yes i understand that you represent james burke. The former suffolk county police chief correct. We are doing a seven part. Podcast and a two hour tv special. And james burke has become a major focus of the story that we're telling and we really would like to sit down with mr burke and get his side of the story. Can we set that up. No yeah the civil case. I couldn't do that okay. I mean we've heard some pretty explosive things about you know from multiple sources. So what do you mean. I don't know i would be careful. What do you mean by be careful. He's just interested. that's for sure. Okay but what do you mean by you know. Make sure you make sure the sources correct share of course. That's doing journalism right if you if you get if you get sources from multiple places but you know we heard a lot of things and we definitely would like to sit down and talk with them. Can i give you my number knockin. No knocking no never undone you. Two billion. I didn't want to stop there. We tracked on burks home address. It's actually the same house you heard about one. Where kristal the bag out of berks unmarked police vehicle. My billie jackson journalist looking for james burke. He doesn't live here. Do you know where he does live. I'm sorry what was that. It was clear to us that it was james burke on the other side of that door it was also clear. He wasn't about to open up. Okay right tell you what. I'm gonna leave by phone number. You can give it to him. That'd be great. I mean he couldn't be renting the house and it can be a family like him. It did sound like him. I mean where he's always. There's a really really good possibility that this guy has done a lot more than english. You don't know about and he would just rather stay in the house with the lights off and not answer. Burke never came out to talk to us into date. He's yet to call for the record through his attorney. James burke has denied having anything to do with the lisk murderers so we'll address him directly here on this platform. James burke we'd still like to talk to you and get your side of the story so consider it an open invitation. We hope one day to hear from you until burke answers the multitude of questions swirling around him speculation about his involvement in. These murderers won't go away so now what where do we go from here. At the end of the day we have eleven bodies found along ocean parkway people who had hopes and dreams and fears and someone snatch them away and dumped their bodies or parts of their bodies along the beach on long island. This begs the question. Will we ever find out. Who killed. Meghan maureen amber unless jessica valerie. Fire island dough. Asian male co peaches her toddler and shannon gilbert. It's incumbent on all of us to stay hyper vigilant to keep asking these questions to make sure not. Another ten years passed with no answers. We'll do our part worn not stopping. And if you can you should do yours too. So if you have a tip submit it through the gilgo news dot com website. You can also submit anonymous. Tips to the suffolk county. Police department calling crime stoppers at one. Eight hundred two zero tips and if you'd like send an email to us at unraveled tips. Gl dot com. We'd like to thank everyone who agreed to be interviewed for this series including those we didn't have time to include. We couldn't have done this in-depth investigation without you. Unraveled is produced by joke. Productions for id the executive producers of this podcast are joke. Soon the joe. Messina and jeff koons long with myself billy. 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