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"manchester england alicante spain" Discussed on Uncontrolled Airspace: General Aviation Podcast

Uncontrolled Airspace: General Aviation Podcast

12:08 min | 10 months ago

"manchester england alicante spain" Discussed on Uncontrolled Airspace: General Aviation Podcast

"But it's just airplane so it's not really this is. This is the best see now. It's got a runway in the front yard. So here's travel tips all right longtime listeners know that I am a pretty regular regular traveller on the airlines and came across interesting travel tip recently all right and that is that if your flight is going to be severely verily delayed you can just volunteer to fly it yourself. Absolutely I've done that several times as someone said it's a variation on on on try the fish or what is it. have the fish have the fish have the fish of course being this sort of meam that I think Steve Tupper came doc with where on an airline flight he urges the pilots to have the fish in the hopes that they will be food poisoned and Steve. We'll be called up to the cockpit to fly the airplane so this is this is a little variation on that this is a flight in someplace someplace not in the US but a flight in England England to like was it to Australia or it was just as wherever it was to Manchester England Alicante Spain gene to Spain okay and and there was a scheduling Snafu in terms of flight crews apparently the only person was missing was the captain. It sounds like there was a first officer present all right but the captain is missing all right and the captain's GonNa be missing for a long time right and so one of the passengers on on the aircraft turns out is in fact a captain for that airline all right and he notices is this going on and he realizes that he and his wife and his kids hit or kids are about to be massively delayed on their way to their vacation and so he gets on the telephone to whoever they're they're dispatch or whatever and says listen. Here's the deal field's really delayed. I'm here I can fly. I got my ID. I'm in shape. You know I mean everything's Hunky Dory. If you guys are okay with it and if you're okay with me flying in civilian clothes it's all right and and apparently the dispatch people came back to him about well. He said it's sixty eight seconds or something silly like that but basically pretty quickly they came back and said yes do it and and so a long time to think about it. There's a youtube video that shows that shows this fill in captain standing at the front of the main cabin talking on the public address explaining this whole thing saying so. Are you okay with all right with you know with us not being delayed with me flying in civilian clothes so that we're not delayed and he got like almost a standing ovation imagine. It's like Yes yes but I'd be sitting there going really. How do I know this guy's really a captain. How do I what who's WHO's vetted. Did this thing I'm I'm a little. I don't know I but see then. I'm a I'm a ironically. I'm a timid airline Flyer and so I would I would be suspicious. I should say that because I can't see out the front window. I you know Jeb. You and I've had this conversation. I've explained this. I believe leave see. This is really going to get into deep deep stuff here or not you know we. I believe that riding on an airliner is is sorta like playing Russian roulette all right. I believe that you're playing Russian. Roulette with about a million chamber gun. and you're basically saying I will oh magic you know. The mystics are saying we will magically get you to your destination all right but you've got to put this million chamber gun to your head and pull the trigger all right and if you live you arrive all right like. I don't like the chances I don't like the odds I don't like that. I have no control the other. There's the other metaphor here's the other for income. Schroeder's airplanes airline passenger. This is shorting airline passenger. Okay is like once I go into that airline cabin and once they closed the door. I am both dead and alive all right. I mean you know whether or not I arrive as a living creature whether I'm able to leave alive. is totally out of my hands. I have no influence on it at all. Have the fish aside okay yeah just going to say first of all. They don't serve fish that often anymore and serve anything that often but yeah yeah they served. They probably served fishing first class and I don't want those folks line my airplane so now I don't want to neither you know yeah yeah I I am. I'm parsing all this and and I don't really have any pithy comment for you right because I'm right. That's all there is to it well. My experiences is completely different. I get on the airplane. I know what kind it is. I know where my seat is is. and I know that there are very few other pilots on board except the two guys up front yeah and I will kind of keep an eye open or an ear peeled just for the general what's going on kind of things. You know. I'll I'll notice on a long range on a long flight. I'll notice for example when they increase power to step climb to a more efficient altitude. I'll note is obviously when they you know lower flaps. Laura gear all that kind of stuff I'll notice when they lead cruising altitude which invariably in my experiences roughly thirty minutes from touchdown nets my and my experience as well. Yes yeah yeah but I really don't care that much. I it is so far removed move. Being in the cabinet of a of an airliner is so far removed from the kind of flying that the the three of us. Do many of our listeners do that. It's just a different experience altogether. It's more of a bus ride. Trump will totally is but my point being that it's a bus ride that where you have no influence on the outcome yeah as as a sure. I do know sure I do want if it if it all goes into the crapper what you're going to break down on the cabin door and fly the things safely. I'll knock on the door can be of assistance is like the it's like the dirty Harry movie where he's you know airport poured and there's a hijacking and he's like maybe of assistant find any ends up shooting the hijackers of course of course through the bulkhead Ed Volker's yeah so I okay I see I don't. I don't have that confidence and it's not a question of my skills. I just don't believe that I would be allowed to influence Jewish. I was on a flight. One time. You know yeah I was. I was a little regional aircraft. It was wasn't even a big. It wasn't even a regional jet. It was like one of these little turboprop twins and we were flying back from probably like Philadelphia back back to Manchester and about an it's like you said Jeb you know you kind of know what the procedures ought to be right and about and I'm sort of following wing long however was I was following along the window whatever and about halfway to our destination all right they kind of made a three hundred and sixty or one hundred eighty degree turn all right and I'm going what the heck is this all about all right and after a couple of minutes the captain comes on the Intercom and says that we've we've discovered a mechanical oh problem on the aircraft and and here's the Real Gotcha are here is this is this really kind of annoyed me all right. He said he said we've discovered McCain. We're getting an indication up up here. There's a mechanical problem all right and we don't have any mechanic resources at Manchester New Hampshire all right so we're turning around and going back to Philadelphia all right. I'm going know what are you talking about all right. We're closer to Manchester Philadelphia. I'm sorry it's going to cost you more money to fix it right but yeah so he turned around and we made somewhat non-standard descended and it was it was for me. I found it stressful it. It made me nervous and and we did in fact get back to wherever it was Philadelphia or what they happen to share with you. Let the mechanical problem I don't. I certainly don't recall they. I don't know if if they did or not and it wasn't anything you can notice just sitting in the back not like engine falling all yeah no no I. I you know I wanna say it was a landing gear air. I don't know I don't recall. I don't recall All I know is that they said we're not going onto our destination which is closer all right because there's no mechanics there and I'm going well tough. Really you know you know forget. It landed Hartford. Let's get on the ground here all right you know and so anyways that mean like I said I'm a I'm a nervous airline Flyer. Go ahead David well that brings things up a question is. Do you feel like you get on an airliner and you know there's a million chamber. Russian roulette game going on do do you feel the same way about the several hundred thousand things that could go wrong on a piston engine single. I I'm certainly aware that things can go wrong. Along the difference is that I feel like I have more influence into the outcome. you know Jeb when I go flying with you. Which is the most common example lately of me flying where I'm not the pilot it is first of all I have. I know you JEB right and so I- although I generally trust airline pilot crews I don't know Oh them they're very they're you know they're they're black boxes to me. I know you JEB. I know I have a an understanding of your sense of caution in precision and whatnot and I can watch the monitor flight. I'm sitting in the front. I can reach out the front window. I can watch the panel right. I mean I have a much more complete sense of where we are and you. You know Clint Eastwood aside. I believe that if I if I observe something going wrong I would have much more influence in a in the decision making process to maybe land or or whatever so yeah David I get that it's also unsafe but as a as a no no I didn't say on safe yeah well. You said unsafe. I say I say is a is a is a wild wild card will and if you look at the record so far you've survived one hundred percent of your airline flights. I know let's see that's getting closer and closer to the bad one. I know that's not one hundred percent of your flights with Jeb bob well. That's a matter of fill out a little bit. I don't look at flights with JEB is a totally binary thing. I guess what I'm saying so we're back to that to the vinyl versus CD. It is not analog. It's are you. Don't look at flying okay. We're going to come up with the next one. I'm sure it will be only criticism before you say welcome folks criticism I would I would only only other observation not criticism I would share would be your use of the word small to the scribe a regional turboprop yeah yeah well see that's not the sizes them exactly right sizes elitism you fly in my debonair which is a much..

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Passenger Steps in to Fly Plane After Pilot Fails to Turn Up

Uncontrolled Airspace: General Aviation Podcast

04:08 min | 10 months ago

Passenger Steps in to Fly Plane After Pilot Fails to Turn Up

"Am a pretty regular regular traveller on the airlines and came across interesting travel tip recently all right and that is that if your flight is going to be severely verily delayed you can just volunteer to fly it yourself. Absolutely I've done that several times as someone said it's a variation on on on try the fish or what is it. have the fish have the fish have the fish of course being this sort of meam that I think Steve Tupper came doc with where on an airline flight he urges the pilots to have the fish in the hopes that they will be food poisoned and Steve. We'll be called up to the cockpit to fly the airplane so this is this is a little variation on that this is a flight in someplace someplace not in the US but a flight in England England to like was it to Australia or it was just as wherever it was to Manchester England Alicante Spain gene to Spain okay and and there was a scheduling Snafu in terms of flight crews apparently the only person was missing was the captain. It sounds like there was a first officer present all right but the captain is missing all right and the captain's GonNa be missing for a long time right and so one of the passengers on on the aircraft turns out is in fact a captain for that airline all right and he notices is this going on and he realizes that he and his wife and his kids hit or kids are about to be massively delayed on their way to their vacation and so he gets on the telephone to whoever they're they're dispatch or whatever and says listen. Here's the deal field's really delayed. I'm here I can fly. I got my ID. I'm in shape. You know I mean everything's Hunky Dory. If you guys are okay with it and if you're okay with me flying in civilian clothes it's all right and and apparently the dispatch people came back to him about well. He said it's sixty eight seconds or something silly like that but basically pretty quickly they came back and said yes do it and and so a long time to think about it. There's a youtube video that shows that shows this fill in captain standing at the front of the main cabin talking on the public address explaining this whole thing saying so. Are you okay with all right with you know with us not being delayed with me flying in civilian clothes so that we're not delayed and he got like almost a standing ovation imagine. It's like Yes yes but I'd be sitting there going really. How do I know this guy's really a captain. How do I what who's WHO's vetted. Did this thing I'm I'm a little. I don't know I but see then. I'm a I'm a ironically. I'm a timid airline Flyer and so I would I would be suspicious. I should say that because I can't see out the front window. I you know Jeb. You and I've had this conversation. I've explained this. I believe leave see. This is really going to get into deep deep stuff here or not you know we. I believe that riding on an airliner is is sorta like playing Russian roulette all right. I believe that you're playing Russian. Roulette with about a million chamber gun. and you're basically saying I will oh magic you know. The mystics are saying we will magically get you to your destination all right but you've got to put this million chamber gun to your head and pull the trigger all right and if you live you arrive all right like. I don't like the chances I don't like the odds I don't like that. I have no control the other. There's the other metaphor here's the other for income. Schroeder's airplanes airline passenger. This is shorting airline passenger. Okay is like once I go into that airline cabin and once they closed the door. I am both dead and alive all right. I mean you know whether or not I arrive as a living creature whether I'm able to leave alive. is totally out of my hands. I have no influence on it at all. Have the fish

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