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Inside Europe 09.04.2021

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Inside Europe 09.04.2021

"The w inside europe. Hello and welcome. I'm helen seaney in bonn germany on today's program. A polish salt mine provides relief for post covert patients. The dutch go techno to learn more about easing corona virus restrictions and what kind of impact will the pandemic have on rome's historic center long. We need a cultural change. We have to ask ourselves. What city do we want. Do we really want a city in which romans live on the outskirts and the heart of the city is populated by tourists. Like a sort of disneyland. I sincerely hope we have a liveable city with a mixed economy. Those stories and more coming up on the program. Many countries around europe and now struggling to cope with a third wave of the corona virus. Poland is no exception hospitals. They are overwhelmed. But for those patients who make it through this now an unusual of treatment available for post cova spirit retract disorders deep down inside a disused salt mine the historic village. Mine near the city of cracow has a unique micro-climate and scientists say it's ideal for post cova patients yu-lian berna has more journey down to the work out galleries. Some one hundred and thirty meters below ground. Start in complete darkness inside. A fairly cramped lived which was once used by miners the galleries throughout the complex situated on various levels but this particular one has been chosen because it features in underground salt lake was mineral. Content is similar to that of the dead sea site in the underground spa. Group of patients chanting religious. Him sit in a circle in half darkness around the fountain but therapeutic. Say this is a very good reason for that. The singing relaxes the muscles. And the fountain strays tiny particles of selene solution. Which is great for inhalation. Manala gist professor romanov appeal ski. Once supervise the treatment of patients with asthma and other bronchial diseases down in the mine. He's now in charge of a trail-blazing covert recovery program developed a deal on university in cracow. The patients spend two to three hours on the ground each day for two weeks while every precaution has taken when show that there's no risk of infection everyone is tested on the arrival and all the medical staff had been fully vaccinated. Patients are required to wear face masks all the time even during strenuous workouts professor of abuse explains why she this big village as the site for the project. The goal of these exercises is improve walk of ashby author muscles temperatures stable from twelve to fifteen degrees celsius unique microclimate. We've of specific chemical contents high concentration of free ions in eight and high humidity. The another important factor is air free of pose primary schoolteacher dorota leads clark of went down with covert in the autumn. She spent two weeks fighting for her life in hospital and now she struggles to breathe whenever she needs to make an effort for now. Going back to score is out of the question. She even finds online classes too. Exhausting originally announced ma safra dot is hoping the underground clinic can how curry's zoom teaching. I have problem with us man to travel with my lungs this the moment and suddenly. I heard that. I'm disease problem. Because i'm a teacher and that's the main problem. I hope put treatment will help me to throw him here. No it wasn't difficult for therapeutic. Parvo janas to switch from caring for asthma sufferers to working with post covert patients as well as overseeing the daily exercise regime he also gathers data for the regular onion university study program to determine just how much the patient's quality of life can be improved the needles as each and every patient. Who arrives down here says straightaway on the first day. That breathing is much easier even wearing a face mask. They're really surprised. They say they feel less tired. So just being year makes them feel better but we also have some hard data. We examine each patient before during and after therapy. We monitor them carefully all the time. The results are very encouraging both in terms of breathing capacity and overall performance. Their condition improves by at least thirty percent. It's a march progression. But you'll each is much more than an underground clinic. Wants patients regain the strength program includes tolls of the complexes. Many historical monuments carved by knows the earliest date back to the eleventh century. An include chapels with altars religious statues and sparking chandeliers. They're all made entirely from sold. The mineral was one so precious. The village combine which was the prized possession of the kings of poland paid for most of the landmarks which can now be admired in the city of crack off. Treatment and village is available to both public and privately founded patients another probably salt mine nearby. Buckner astounded a similar program although without the added advantage of breathtaking historical sites. An above ground clinic sound are being encouraged to build out official sold chambers to ease the breathing of post covert patients young e w lita. Many countries are backing lockdown as europe battles and other wave of covert infections. People and economies are both suffering now in the netherlands their chests underway to see how to safely bring back some fun. Our correspondent teri schultz. Got to join a check. No concert doubling as a social experiment tickets for the dance weekend bidding and sold out almost immediately for the chance to be party animals. Thousands of dutch were willing to be guinea pigs. Fifteen hundred people were allowed each day. They had to test negative for the coronavirus to get the event and promised to test again five days later to see if anyone had become infected and during the party they agreed to wear tracking devices to see how they would behave once they got their beers and their grooves on there will be has the little bit where we don't care. This was the seventh event held by field lab a group of scientists. Researchers event organizers and government officials trying to find out whether and under what conditions it is safe to allow people to gather peterloo bert's is field labs project manager. He comes at this. From the event side of things and is very encouraged that he says only a handful of people have tested positive. After the experiments and not necessarily stemming from that activity i think we can prove that we really can increase the capacity of officials maybe in steps starting with fifty percent. go to seventy or eighty percents. And in the end we want to have the real goal one hundred percent but at those events ranging from theater to football matches attendees were given specific instructions. How to behave whether to wear masks. Keep social distancing have physical contact or not and so on at the bidding highs. In festival people were reminded at the beginning. They should wear masks but after that they were free to do as they wished while everyone was wearing masks as they checked in showed their negative test results and got their tracker pleased around their neck after that things got a little wild infectious disease specialist. Dr andrea voss. Who's part of the field lab research team admitted to being a little nervous. People are careful at the beginning and then during the party will be they will be very much less careful so that will take off that mask. That probably have enough drinks Party at they used to but the whole idea is to have a natural event and not being there was people taking them a bar asking them to to put on the mask again so we want to have the way. They party usually Because otherwise all the day that we would have would be with me senseless on one of the dance floors twenty five year old. Wesley was among those partying. Like he used to know mask on wesley or his friends nor on suba in bhutan. Who's a doctor in a corona virus ward. But for a few hours. She was just someone out dancing with her friends before. The main performer at the event was dutch today. Ranier zona feld who says the pandemic has been so hard on fellow. performers and end to lockdown. Can't come soon enough. Friends of me also are under break through your last year plan festivals. Quit their day job after. Get gasoline tree. That's for ten fifteen years. Yeah really hope. Somehow we get off. It's as soon as possible off the test results from the dance party. Weekend aren't public yet. But the dutch government is signaling optimism. It's just announced that some people will be allowed to attend the eurovision song contest in rotterdam as part of moorefield lab research teri schultz d-w bidding poison netherlands. And i'm helen seen in bonn. You're listening to inside europe The eu top two officials held talks with turkish president. Wretch up. Tie up at one this week. Tensions between brussels and ankara have spiked over a number of issues. Fungal lion the president of the european commission. An sean michelle. The president of the european council made it clear. That better ties are dependent on ankara improving. Its human rights record. And the rule of law will joining me is out. Turkey correspondent doreen jones dorian. How much progress was made well. Suddenly that was a very powerful message. That came from sean. Michelle anders live on delay and saying that The situation in turkey was unacceptable. This pulling out of the women's convention. The istanbul convention that provides legal protection for women was unacceptable and they called for turkey to reverse that decision and also they highlighted the fact that turkey second largest opposition party he's facing closure and that is another area of concern so they were very very powerful messages and the european union having facing a lot of criticism recent but human rights defenders say that turkey hasn't faced enough pushback from the european union over what is described as a rapidly deteriorating situation. But having said that all this tough lounges. Come from the two officials at the same time. They granted turkey a key concession. That has been pushing for that over the modernization of accustomed union agreement between turkey and the european union. Turkey has been pushing for this for many years and it has been held up in power over human rights concerns but the fact now that negotiations have been announced for the start of the modernisation off. The customs union agreement will be considered a major diplomatic victory on turkey's part and this will add to concern among human rights defenders. That is tough rhetoric coming from the e you could prove just to be that rhetoric rather than actions will add a one wants to update eight thousand sixteen migration agreement in which turkey receives money from the eu in return for halting the migrant flow to europe to what extent his brussels willing to offer more incentives in this area. Indeed at the press conference selander ally did say that they were ready to examine turkey's a request for more money on both sides want this migration deal to continue effectively. Turkey has become european. Union's gatekeeper for migrants and refugees seeking to enter the european union. Turkey currently hosts around four million syrian refugees and refugee migration deal that they have with european is seen as preventing another major exodus into the european union. Which is something that all sides want to avoid now. The key question here is that turkey is looking for billions more euros to provide assistance to the refugees that currently hosting and also they want less strings attached to it. There's a lot of irritation in. Ankara that the european union are attaching too many strings on how that money should be spent laiwu boost restrictions lifted on european union side. They want turkey to on what they say is all elements of this agreement and particularly the part of the agreement which which means a turkey takes back refugees migrants whose asylum requests have been rejected by the greek authorities. Greece's currently hosting tens of thousands of refugees is a crisis situation there according to eu officials and a key part of that it's a send those refugees back to turkey for the moment turkey's being resisting. This claiming that the eu is not honoring. Its side of the bargain. I think money is seen as a solution here. And i think both sides will be working toward a solution will turkey still wants to join the e u but having said that those efforts have been put on ice for years now. Is it still a realistic goal. At this point or both sides simply going through the motions. Actually president heard one only a few weeks ago said that it is a key foreign policy objective turkey joining the eu. But it has to be said on both sides. There is a recognition that turkey's accession bid at least in the short and medium-term is dead. If not completely and i think that this meeting of these two top your officials who actually came to incur rather than the virtual meetings that is common practice. These days is a sign of how important this meeting is. Because i think there's an acceptance on both sides that the accession process is now dead now the e u. That is a major problem because turkey joining us always seen as a major piece of leverage the e had over turkey to extract concessions. Now that's over there. Looking for a new framework and this is why the offering of concessions of modernizing the customs union agreement is seen as providing new leverage the eu to extract concessions to meet turkey on this migration deal for example. I'm from turkey side. They also want to extract concessions. They want a new framework going forward possibly visa liberalisation as well so i think both sides recognize that they do want to have talks to work together and i think uncle will also be looking for this. New era of pragmatism. The human rights is very much put on the backburner and that was dorian. John's our turkey correspondent speaking there from istanbul the historic centre of rome has changed immeasurably over the past few decades and now the corona virus pandemic is also leaving its mark the tourists who once crowded it erupts and and the few locals who still live there a working from home because of the pandemic on weekends romans go to the center to do some shopping or to enjoy the monuments but during the week it's deserted and that's becoming a big problem andrew van schaik reports jaw after years of peeling artichokes. Sonia is incredibly quick at it. A family has had a fruit and vegetable stall on the famous company fury market for three generations. She was practically born here. It always used to be busy. Good no this. Hardly anyone around then. I don dante bank you get for all our our nobody table too. Many stole used to cater mostly for tourists. But now there aren't any. Do you see those stall selling scoffs and t shirts nowadays. They make maybe twenty thirty years day. Why should they even open up. Not only is there a lack of tourists but the number of residents in rome city center is also decreasing that was already apparent. But it's become painfully clear during the pandemic over the last sixty years. The city centre has lost. Three quarters of its residents in one thousand nine hundred fifty one around one hundred and seventy thousand. Romans lived here nowadays. It's just over. Eighty thousand and their vacated buildings now hosts holiday homes hotels and airbnb. That a priebus levian vivian. He coupla lived her whole life in the center of rome. She was born on lago argentina. The spot with julius. Caesar was killed two thousand years ago and she's president of the association of residents of the cento story could handle foreign milan but so there to talk in. The tourist industry poses a security problem over the past few years. Problems have arisen in apartment complexes because a large number of airbnb residents don't know each other and in the meantime the community falls apart until the end of two thousand nineteen you could choose from more than twelve thousand accommodation options in roman rookie dot com that resulted in shops in the centre also adapting visitors the traditional butcher shop bakery or fishmonger made way for pubs cheap for our shops and fast food chains. The remaining shops struggle to survive the energy quanta say don't go is in the heart city and has been making hats since eighteen fifty seven. Not crawley is the fifth generation in his family to run the shop daily. Anti sorry show donnie. We have our regular customers both italians and foreigners that all americans and germans who come here every year or so to buy a house but we've lost a lot of turnover due to the pandemic forty percent less compared to previous years until the nineteen nineties. This was a real neighborhood where real people lived but nowadays with no tourists and people working from home. It's empty here. Talk really is an exception to the city center. That's been taken over. But as atm's and mcdonald's of this world according to the city authorities there are around one hundred and fifty traditional shops and cafes the center and they should be protected as much as possible. Says regional. Council member medallion. Ori noyau motoo therapists teed up with their mainly artisan shops and they're part of the city's culture and history in this neighborhood. Many streets are named after crafts pupil that used to have their shops here for example. There's a cherbourg street and a carpenter street. If these shops and companies have to shut their doors because of this crisis they'll never come back. Tradition will be lost and replaced by international chains. We want to prevent that. This will not doing another bad girl. accuser. Local residents have already prevented one big multinational company from muscling in says reality. Capela mcdonnell kacem. She differ. Mcdonald's tried to open a restaurant next to the pantheon. The two thousand year old roman temple joined forces with the city. Authorities took them to court and after years of legal battles we won. It's a battle that can only be one by residents and this city working together now face with a deserted city centre. everyone wants things to change. But what happens when the pandemic is over. There's money to be made from tourism again. Will it be business as usual council member. Maddalena nori hopes not long. Will we need a cultural change. We have to ask ourselves. What city do we want. Do we really want a city in which romans live on the outskirts and the heart of the city is only populated by tourist like disneyland. I sincerely hope we have a liveable city with a mixed economy. Problems facing rome repeated other european cities prague amsterdam venice to name a few. The reliance on tourism revenue has created a mona culture and degraded cities to theme parks in which inhabitants have become extras interest fantasies. The covid nineteen pandemic has made this problem painfully clear. It may provide an opportunity to rethink economic and cultural models and save europe's cultural heritage which not only made of stone but also of real people. Dwi from rome. We would love to hear your feedback on the show so do get in touch. Our email addresses europe at d. w. dot com. Hope to hear from you. This inside europe and i'm helen seaney in bonn germany. This is inside europe. And i'm helen. Seaney in bonn germany from bonn germany. You're listening to inside. Europe people in england or waiting to hear when and where they can travel abroad this summer. After the prime minister refused to confirm that foreign holidays would restart next month as planned. Boris johnson said the government would introduce a traffic light system of red amber green with different levels of restrictions. he's nervous of allowing variants of covid nineteen into the uk as a third wave spreads across europe but the travel industry says the uncertainty is driving companies out of business. Lucy taylor reports from the u. k. For the first time this year it's now legal to meet family from another part of the country if only outside. Engines lockdown is slowly easing as covid nineteen cases. Full foreign travel is still against the law. And for some people that means no family reunions for the foreseeable future. I three flights booked last summer and every single one of them was council. So i'm hesitant now to book. Anything at all. Either is a teacher with family in austria. She'd usually fly to see them at least twice a year. I would like to see My mother and my family ostra soon soon as possible. I have actually missed my dad He died before i could see again. in That was talking to my mother asks every time movie we talk. She asks every sunday. When are you coming. And i said well soon as i'm allowed she's getting on this well and had just having lost to'spend she'll be wondering whether she'll seals again hopeful that we can get gutting prime minister. Boris johnson says the government hopes to allow some shovel. Some next to safe shoal. We don't want to see the virus being reimported. Into this country plainly there is a surge in other parts of the world and we have to be mindful of that and we have to be realistic. He's introducing a traffic light system from reds high risk countries to green low risk ones but the government is asking people not to book holidays for now and the travel industry says the uncertainty is pushing people. We're making a few bookings for later in the year. The odd person is speculating for the summer. But majority of our current bookings offer later in the year or even next year pool recipe is the owner of direct travel and independent travel agency. He says it's vital. The industry is given more detail on which countries which the red ones are fairly obvious. The green ones are. Ob are interesting. I think the difficulties the ones where they can possibly move to reddell to green anytime and that's one of the big issues about traffic. Light system is when the on off switch is used. We sell experienced a bit of that last year. With the with the accurate air-corridors portugal's really good example which was switch on an offer to three times. And i just close chaos mckim bookings and them so what we will need is bit of carthage as to what qualifies for green what qualifies for albert what qualifies for read on. How you move between them. It's likely that only a few countries will be on the green list. Vaccination is high in cases of the virus and its variance. Alot tourists coming back from those places won't need to quarantine but they will need full testing which they'll pay for themselves to companies worried that we're not too much to the cost of a holiday travel and having implies testing that is not affordable is going to inhibit those that want to travel. Actually travel will only be available to those at the forty do yellow buoy. Sad is the chief. Executive of advantage travel partnership which represents travel agents and we need to ensure that the government does everything possible to enable in a safe manner through with food testing places while escape to achieve messed next week. Domestic holidays can be. Start in england bookings this summer well ahead of previous. He is birmingham. Manchester may not seem quite the substitute for capetown. Newell can roam while those places seem impossibly far away escape to new perspective. The national tourism agency visit prison is asking people to try new destinations. Little closer to home. Lisa taylor d w in the uk. Well let's head now to the northernmost part of europe to greenland this week. The leftwing party won parliamentary elections there. Greenland is part of the kingdom of denmark but has broad autonomy it also has vast untapped mineral resources the winning. I a party campaigned against a project to mine. Rare earth metals from what is one of the world's largest deposits joining me is mark land chain an associate professor in political science at the arctic university of norway. Missile anton. just. How important was the mining issue in these elections. The elections this time around the mining issue had been turned into a very significant points at area political contestation for the vote. I had been out of power for quite some time. And it had kind of seen the issue of the specific mine at Kenneth feld as Certainly an area. That was a growing concern. Too much of the greenlandic population especially out of concern of the environmental impact of this mind. Why agreements resources surprised. They their prized for. I would say two reasons. First of all this is a part of the world which has a considerable amount of mineral wealth The amount of resources that is starting to become more accessible quite significant so we are talking base metals precious metals gemstones rarer All of which are starting to become Relatively easier to extract but more to the points because of climate change because of the loss of surrounding sea ice it has become much less difficult to mine these resources and actually got them out to market the second point though is that Greenland is also in the midst of a bit of a political change support for independence from danish kingdom is still very high. And this means that. Greenland's political status might change very soon so it has been the interest of several parties including the european union china and the united states to better engage greenland diplomatically. Add economically. So what do you think the outcome of these elections mean for greenland's political future. It's an excellent question because at this stage i is not in a position to govern alone. It's very difficult for any party to do. So so the next few days are going to see a considerable amount of negotiation with some of the smaller parties to create a workable coalition. Now this means the. Tom compromises might each be undertaken on various areas and also remains to be seen whether the mining project at of will actually cancelled potentially postponed. And even if a coalition put together which Winds up canceling the mining project. How long that particular. Coalition will laugh because party politics in greenland has become a little bit more volatile late. It was The reason why the election call to begin with was that one party in the previous coalition pulled out over disagreement over the of self. How does denmark view the possibility of greenland going independent denmark is very concerned about the possibility of Greenland rushing to independence that it may fall under a great deal of external influence especially from china and certainly greenland is very important to the danish kingdom. It's provides denmark with Vedic access politically and geographically to the arctic and has been trying to stress that it is very interested in maintaining the coherency of the of the kingdom and has been trying to push the fact that you know he does want to continue to be greenland's partner the currency leadership in denmark. I should add under prime minster. Metrics frederickson has been more open to the idea of continued sovereignty for greenland but still wants to Make it very clear to the greenland population. That denmark does have greenland's at heart if we get back to greenland's mineral resources to what extent a currently being mined mining is very limited greenland right now At the moment there are only two minds that are operational one dealing with rubies. The other dealing with anthracite several other potential mining projects have been mooted including one far the owners of greenland Very large deposited zinc. But the fact is to set up any mine in greenland requires a great deal of preparation and requires a great deal of ensuring that any mining operations to be environmentally viable. And we're talking about very remote regions so any kind of personnel equipment. Infrastructure would need to be brought in over a considerable amount of time so mining in greenland is not something that can be done very quickly. And when you mentioned the concern about the signal being sent to international mining concerns after this election i would say this significance. Because other mining companies are going to wonder whether it will be possible to put down so much startup capital and infrastructure. Planning for something which may not in the end go forward and that was mark. Land chain an associate professor in political science at the arctic university of norway. Speaking there from trump's hungarian media have accused the government of putting lives at risk by preventing journalists from covering the full extent of what is now one of the world's deadliest outbreaks of covid nineteen. The authorities even appeal to students and volunteers to help overburdened hospitals. This is despite the fact that hungary has more vaccines available than any other. Eu country including jabs from and russia stefan boss reports from protesting. Hungarians filed by a long line of mask-wearing police officer cintas center of budapest. Dave hatton off of night curfew sent other gerona virus restrictions. Today claim don't work the government of hardline prime minister viktor. Orban has acknowledged that more than twenty two thousand hungarians have died off the corona virus. We supposed relation of around ten million. That means country now is one of the world's highest kofi deaths dole's per capita debts despite rolling out millions of vaccines including non you approved gaps from china and russia in an open letter hungarian journalists complain. They have no access to overburdened. Hospitals but prime minister orban defense is tough stance to watch the critical press. I mean he's done on the his It's tough. I ask everyone to support the nurses and doctors. This is not the time to spread fake news and record undercover footage in hospitals a lot of medical staff and sleep more than four hours a night. We have to support them. The government wants to prevent hospital footage like this which was recorded across the border in slovakia which has significant hungarian minority into town of costra. The local hospital is struggling to cope with cases of corona victories and one in three patients heffer bank die. Dare beck here. In hungary. the government admits that at least one thousand seven hundred. Medical students and volunteers are helping overburdened. Hospitals that are suffered years of neglect in recent years. Thousands of doctors have left state run hospitals because of poor wages and many more integrated do wealthier countries depress it end of the independent healthcare workers union adriana source is furious that government is using medical students and volunteers in hospitals during the pandemic dot. Oconee kc ish forget. They won't be able to work effectively in hospitals. I'm worried that they might even hinder hospital. Staff doctors and nurses are going to have to divide their time between caring for patients and dealing with the volunteers. The government should have started preparing for this earlier. It isn't easy to talk to volunteers inside hospitals. Brian is to orban's claims to country is at war with the virus and he's budi army. In control of hospitals commander eastern keystone is in charge of the operation. He says there's nothing wrong with soldiers guarding hospitals again. The and but the nine soldiers doing a good job and hospital directors satisfied with their work and both civilians and nurses say that the soldiers provide a sense of security bogo soldiers. Prepare to take on tasks beyond military duties and we're at the service of hungary citizens those demonstrating illegally disagree with what they view as a war-like regime the government controlling most media and other institutions. It will take more than a pandemic before. Dared demands are met stefan deal. Will you move. Legal battle is unfolding greece over the drowning of a refugee boy. Math ghanistan officials blame the father for putting his son in the boat but he blames the coast guard for failing to rescue them. Anthony corre sava has more from athens in greece. A controversial legal petition is raising questions about who's to blame when refugees drowned while trying to make it to shore the coast guard or the refugees. The case involves a twenty five year old afghan father who six-year-old son. Drowned last year. Authorities have charged him with putting his son's life at risk but now he's arguing in a legal petition that authorities should instead be investigating. Why the greek coastguard took so long to come to his rescue. And that of his sons when their boat packed with scores of asylum-seekers hit craggy rocks off the coast of the island of samos last november sinking swiftly into choppy waters. The father whose identity has not been made public says rescue crews scramble to the scene after receiving a distress signal from the asylum seekers yet the coast guard boat left migrants adrift and in distress six hours later though they appeared on land with vehicle to round up those who managed to swim to safety. The afghan father survived his son though. Didn't his lifeless body found just meters away washed up on the shores of samos days before his sixth birthday the twenty five year old afghan father now faces up to six years in prison. If found guilty of putting his son's life at risk a charge which no other sign them seeker has ever faced a move which rights groups here. Fear was set at worrying precedent in criminalising migrants and their continued bid to seek safety in europe through turkey. Coastguard officials contacted for. This report have denied any wrongdoing. They say they never spotted the sinking boat because of bad weather conditions and darkness that hindered their search effort. Since the government of geico's tacky search to power in two thousand nineteen greece's taken a more aggressive stance on illegal immigration but the afghan refugee and his lawyer told. Dwi this week. They're more concerned about the recurring use of migrant pushbacks by creek coast coastguard. Which is a knee legal practice but the afghan refugee and his lawyer believed coast guard. Crews on ensemble refused to the sinking vessel last november and they instead attempted to round up the migrants once on shore trying to herd them into life rafts and then towing them back to turkish waters to block their entry to europe for migrants to turn around is a serious breach of international law violating asylum seekers rights to safe passage and protection week authorities vehemently denied the accusation but the investigation launched by the afghan father. May shed a different light on this. Practice are salva w athens. And i'm helen in bonn. You're listening to inside. Europe and historic monument has sparked a diplomatic spat between latvia and russia. It's been thirty years since. Latvia regained its independence following the collapse of the soviet union and its territory is dotted with memorials glorifying. These soviet era military but at the end of february someone stole and hid apart of one of these monuments. Russia has launched a criminal investigation into the incident. Get at scales has more from riga. It's nighttime at the end of february and tractor hits the road in the south east of flabby driver. Reaches the city of york appeals and stops in the park historic memorial two troupes of the soviet soviet union the tractor and removes a heavy green artillery gun installed on top of concrete blocks and drives off with it the very next day. One of my friends drove by the monument early in the morning. And he calls me. That's leon also. Nato to yield pensioner russian living in the bills. She's from local war veterans society that laid flowers lit candles and drunk to the glory of the soviet army. A day earlier. it's a damn artillery gun is gone. I thought he was joking or something. It's a real shame that somebody actually removed it. That believes suspected. A local farmer named mooner scowled is the main culprit. He denies any involvement but the fifty one year old faldo four is clear there to regard is now at the bottom of a nearby river. Lil sitter well. The tillery gun is gone forever. Let's be was occupied by both the nazis and the soviets during the second world war then for fifty years. It was part of the soviet union and only regained its independence in nineteen ninety-one after the. Ussr collapsed however call says he still has to put up with symbols of moscow as totalitarian regime reds at guitar cash. Near go your shot. The excellent every year descendants of the soviet occupiers gather at the monument for celebrations on russia's victory day. They lay flowers and drink toasts. They're insulting attitude. Really irritates me was golovin adila. The incident involving the missing oregon didn't go unnoticed in russia. It launched a criminal. Investigation incited anti-soviet sentiments. Something that the kremlin has accused latvian. The other baltic states are for years when neighboring estonia relocated a soviet era war memorial back in two thousand and seven it sparked violent riots by ethnic russians. The country suffered a sophisticated cyber attack. To though the kremlin denied involvement later that year the latvian and russian governments signed a special agreement for the protection of historic burial. sites ensemble. Is hit over. The warriors cemetery society latvian. Ngo the agreement concerns. Russia's military burial sites symmetry particular sectors of some graveyards individual graves in latvia latvia's graves in russia on both says they are around three hundred fifty burial sites of soviet soldiers and latvia and russia spins up to a million euros each year looking after them not to be a meanwhile has blazed commemorative plaques and russia for thousands of its people who perished at the hands of the soviet regime. Baton-wielding says the kremlin has been throwing a spanner in the works. In recent years others are the russian officials find various reasons to prevent them from installing memorials. They say their problems with the land that the local authority doesn't consider such a plaque necessary that they have concerns that it might cause social tension and so on not to be a is the resting place of at least two hundred thousand soviet soldiers and about ninety thousand german troops batonga postwar communist regime. The soviet authorities only created memorial sides on other own. We'll just books is a historian that the institute of latvian history adventure so to me. Oh beliefs the soviets directed obelisks in the center of latvian towns and any place of political importance. The main purpose was not only to commemorate the fallen soldiers of the red army. They were also meant to demonstrate ideological power domination and military victory of the soviets in the so-called great patriotic war and we still see them today in many places neighbor says that politicians have refrained from removing these memorials because of the country's large ethnic russian community and he believes the borough sides of both sides should be maintained to commemorate wartime wiggins. Meanwhile buccaneer appeals. Local officials are yet to decide what to do with a monument. Without its jewel the seventy six millimeter artillery gun gathered was d w riga having demonstrating frontal city who of francis third city leon. After its new mayor banned meat from school canteens. Farmers also gave passes by free tastings of beef pork lamb and chicken. Eating meat was until recently completely uncontroversial. In what many considered to be francis gourmet capital but now farmers and the food industry say it's under attack. John lawrenson farmers came to leo city hall with goats lambs and cattle to protest. The removal of meat from school menus. Abano red stop ideology in our plates. Felony club came with some cows from her farm. Just outside the city for me. It's not a question of eating or not eating meats. It's a question of liberty choice inside city hall new green party. May gregory do say to klein our offer of an interview. He didn't want to feed a new controversy. His spokeswoman said he's though no stranger to controversy such as when he refused to allow the tour de france cycle race to stop in. Leon because it was he said match oh and polluting but in a written statement. He said he'd removed to meet temporarily from school menus. Because of covid nineteen the statement said the measure allowed canteens to adopt a single menu which speeded up lions and made it easier to enforce social distancing measures. Madame la b. Doesn't buy it now. Because i have children who is going to score not in leon. Distancing is respected and it meets. It's just a capacity of organization. The reality she says is that the man is anti meet he has. She claims band. Patty and ham from official reception buffets. Something city hall said. It wouldn't comment on a -tudios bechtel. One of one hundred and twenty nine schools where meet the not fish or eggs have been banned. Parents like stiffen. Put her upsets responser. Question phone cordell. It's nonsensical decision. I was quite angry when i received the email about it. From city hall. Meat is an important source of protein and our daughter doesn't much like fish eggs so when she comes home from school now she's famished was at a farmers market on the outskirts of a customer buys some chicken and the rib of beef in these parts say limousine and people don't think car they think breed of cow book user whom the culinary institute of america named chef of the century came from here who's signature dish was a chicken cooked in a pig's bladder. The french have a bit of a thing about meet. They like their beef. Bloody and when it's pig sheep found or cow. Each bits that are national unity would be squeamish about mentioning let alone putting in their mouths. I get talking to the customer. Whose name is uber. Dim wa. he tells me it's in the nature of the french to be. Omnivorous that think we ever meet culture. We hit a hold your complete anymore from head to from head to toe from ed. Thanks sorry about that even the inside the stomach kidney everything everything under thing. I think it's a very specific thing fronts back at city hall. The processing farmers are cooking up. A barbecue for passes by there are plenty of takers. Though fewer than two percent of french people described themselves as vegetarians. Compared with ten percent of germans a harris poll shows one into fringe. People have reduced them meat consumption in the past three years that if there's a retreat from meat it's a slow and limited one. As the outcry here has illustrated the mayor is promising to restore meet to school canteens. when the pandemic's produce daily vegetarian option next year johnson. D-w leo that wraps up this week shock you enjoyed it. It was produced with help from kathleen. She'll star and sound engineer philip. Rubinstein do join us again at the same time next week till then i'm helen seaney. Thanks for joining me inside. 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Leadership Insights for Healthcare Innovation with Tobias Silberzhan, Partner at McKinsey Berlin Office

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Leadership Insights for Healthcare Innovation with Tobias Silberzhan, Partner at McKinsey Berlin Office

"Hey everyone saw marquez. Here have you. Launched your podcast already discovered what a pain it could be to keep up with editing production show notes transcripts and operations. What if you could turn over the keys to your podcast. Busy work while you do the fun stuff like expanding your network and taking the industry stage. Let us edit your first episode for free. So you can experience the freedom visit smooth podcasting dot com to learn more that smooth podcasting dot com to learn more. Welcome back to the outcomes. Rocket saul marquez. Here today i have the extraordinary privilege of hosting dr toby s sealed saab. He's a trained biochemist and manala just is a partner at mckinsey's berlin office and the focus of his work is healthcare innovation to be as leads the global health tech network a community of five hundred plus digital health startups and. He hosts the med tech arne industry roundtable and to pharma r&d industry roundtables with mckinsey. Germany tobias leads the my experience initiative that helps colleagues improved their health and wellbeing by better nutrition sleep fitness and stress management to be his married and lives in berlin with his wife and two children which is where we're Connecting him from today to be as such such a pleasure to have you here on on the podcast today. Saw thanks for having me absolutely. So we're gonna we're gonna dive into a lot of the the work that you're up to in mckinsey but also outside of it. I mean you. You just have such a great present in the healthcare sphere globally but also in europe and so i'd love to first of all get to know you a little bit better and for the listeners viewers to get to know you better. What inspires your work in healthcare. Well saw on the one. Hand being biochemist immunologists. There is a there is some professional background connection there that that got me Got me into the healthcare industry on the other hand by my inspiration. Undermine my motivation comes largely from my my personal story. i lost Several family members to cancel when my father died of cancer for years ago and then most of my children were bomb and it felt like halftime in my life. Right to i had a father for the first half of my life and then the second top of my life. I'm a father myself and done and that halftime period felt very much like What do i want to do in the second half of my life and what what worked why find meaningful right too long story short. I decided that. I would dedicate my work entirely on healthcare innovation and to healthcare and The question how improvements can be achieved and innovations being promoted in the health system. Wow while you know sorry to hear about your dad to be as you know. It's it's never easy and then your kids came which is a blessing. And then this is. This just becomes kind of like the center point and your new trajectory and so you're you're on this journey to improve healthcare healthcare innovation. Tell us a little bit about what you're doing and feel free to to focus on on the many organizations that you're part of outside of mckinsey are inside. Mackenzie like take this where you want to take it. And how are you adding value to the healthcare ecosystem. Yeah maybe to talk about the song since i work on. On innovation topics with medical device companies from companies digital health startups and health ministries across europe. See that often. There's a lot of opportunity around scaling scaling of health innovation and 'second area. That that i think is a very important area is what would the health system of the future. Look like right. As a combination of digital and non digital offers an example in western european countries the health system already has more than one hundred interventions available to deal with such widespread disease like diabetes if we simply pack on the novel twenty five or fifty digital solutions will probably not improve the well-being off off patients are unhappy very helpful to citizens instead. I think we should think about how we want to help. Citizens to live healthily in the future. And how we think about the target image of our health system more like Managing health and rallo than Waiting for people to become seeking trying to help help fix the problem right an esa company. We are trying to add value in these areas. By working very much on health care the multidimensional opportunity right the not. Just wanna mention four things first. We very much look at the value perspective of health and also healthcare nation rights which these days is a lot around health so for example. We look at When we look at the twenty five main digital health categories will look at things like what value would be the health solutions to a health system if they are fully implemented and looking at both from a patient outcomes perspective as well as from a health system perspective and day healthcare economic perspective secondly bringing in healthcare analytics and and these days importantly the the industrialization of health chat analytics to play so In that sense our hell catalytic unit comes from formula one car racing. They bring a huge focus on performance speed in formula one at you need need data engineering to took it back to your deliver something within days or weeks right note in years so on so in that sense it's not enough also to develop certain use cases right. It's more about production. Izing these cases managing these are algorithms deny in a smart way then Also design is is in my opinion a huge thing for health. Count you people know about that right but am in. the last. Few years of my company has become one of the top. Ten design firm saw a globally both in terms of industrial design for physical products. I m but also then design of janis digital services so might designed colleagues in sweden. Trust helped design a Ah such robot for example for which they. I just wanna read. Don't design a walk and thing is is really to bring it all together if you bring gave value focus and a analytics capability and design capability altogether right on think about it sort of how would it work in the in house system. And what capability building do you need to do. And how to some of the incentives on the economics change to make it really work. That is sort of what i'm excited about. And what what we trying to work on. Yeah that's really that's really interesting and to be as you mentioned. There's a hundred ways to manage diabetes like throw another twenty-five. How is that even going to guarantee that you're hitting the mark with the value you're trying to deliver high. Is it going to guarantee better. You know health for people better return on investment for employers. These are all questions we need to be thinking about. Very cool thought process here the three pillars value analytics and design. I think it's It's certainly something that we could probably learn more about from you so talk to us. About how the approaches you guys are taking make different than what's available today and you know some examples there would be nice. Thank you happy to talk about that salt. I think i wanna start with the practice of the campus. That i spoke about it in the first question right but the purpose of our company right. It's a it's to help create positive and enduring change in the world and that is pretty much the underlying thinking that'd be one country and from from where we are coming and we work on digital health rights as an example. Be that look at is Underlying value that. We just talked about and to do that. For example we we built a model that that looks at more than five hundred publications in the digital health space academic publications we looked at. What's the published evidence. The impact of the solutions with map with the healthcare spend categories in various countries to be able to say what is the underlying value that for example a patient remote monitoring brings to a health system on a patient perspective level but also on a health system financial perspective for a country like drama anywhere. I'm from that would be a three point. Three billion euros than tele-medicine would be another category. That's where we are sort of trying to ground everything into the value and that is deliberate in the health system and then nothing but the second thing that that i often feel is different is Thinking about it sort of beyond the current silos so a lot of people these this year talk about health care ecosystems happy to use the term but at the end of the day right for me. The question is how can we. How can we achieve behavior. Change both of the patient and citizen perspective on also behavior change on assist system the providers obedience health insurances in that respect. I i find it helpful to think about these ecosystems and john needs right to when i look globally so i currently see united not in sight simplified six main archetypes off of healthy ecosystems being built there sort of the the pharmacy primary care ecosystem right. Wha wha Like companies like so for example in europe are combining pharmacy with primary kassovitz. That something that has been two separate silos that. At least in europe's since the ages reddin than there is sort of archetypes. Bill combining primary cow with secondary cast. Solutions the archetypes. That combining health insurance with primary castle like what What for example. Being honest doing In china and that is actually an interesting approach from my perspective when i think about these healthcare ecosystem types ave better or could they be better in in creating that behavior change by the number that i always find fascinating. Is that the german physician. Spend on average eight minutes without patience right and then thinking through could we design a journey or an ecosystem that actually that actually helps the citizens and the patients to change behavior toward small healthy choices and didn't in many case examples. I would say. I'm pretty motivated. Patient icon changed my my behavior sustainably after eight minutes intervention or or station with the doctor let so in that sense thinking about it more from a journey perspective on putting it the other way round. What are the touch point. That does he just like saw Has over the years from a health perspective than how could be support him to make healthy choices along these touch points right. I think that is different. And i find helpful chore to achieve that that change. Yeah thanks for that to be as in You know you mentioned the couple models all of them involving primary care. You know this. Focus on primary care compared to specialist care. You know like think is is something that we're all becoming more more cognisant of the importance of it. And you also mentioned the importance of not just having those touch points those eight minutes having that continuity the continuity of care and that's where the difference is made so i appreciate that. How has what you guys are doing. Improved outcomes or or made business better right so these are some of the insights. How does he translate into the into the day to day. Well you know. Most projects as as to noah are confidential. But i'm happy to say that you know for example. Twenty twenty those post quite a lot of in health cab with the with the covid nineteen pandemic and i think they have digital health is a beautiful example of how digital health has actually saved people slides and i've seen that firsthand how digital health and how precision medicine can save lives. So that's why. I'm motivated to bring more of these benefits to help us if we use covid nineteen thousand example right. I just talk about the pilot project. That i find pretty cool in the uk they out people use haitian remote monitoring for the management of covid nineteen patients. They called it. Virtual waltz and if people are interested that they can look a brief article about it in the british medical drama and one pretty much the objective of that Of that project was was was twofold. First of all trying to spot complications really really early and be able to medically intervene and help these patients so and then the second objective was to have a tool or a digital health solution. Raw that enables the doctor to continuously monitor that patient instead of having to make a. Yes no decision the moment that this covid nineteen patient presents s. We run from some of the cases in in march. April writes a lot of patients in such a situation where it to be hospitalized because the doctor failed out this is sort of my of off covid nineteen patients that i see not quite sure how this will involve. The patient doesn't look good so let's hospitalized. Patients will be on the same side right. And if you apply patient remote monitoring to covid nineteen patients you actually have have a few very interesting effects on the one hand when patients submit the. Let's say body temperature oxygen saturation in the blood and Let's say Around breathlessness and breathing problems right if they submit three times a day then you are able to respond complications reading early. Just quoting the number from the publication two hundred and forty four patients where in the very first initial highlight kovacs and zero of them died. And i think that it's a remarkable result especially since most people seem to be talking about telemedicine and other with nineteen related tools. But i personally very excited about this This results how patient remote monitoring can actually help. I did then. The feedback that i hear is on the sides. Doctors like the sort of the the feeling of safety and security that such a digital health solution can give to them because they know the patient might not be looking great. But i don't have to hospitalize the patient right away because in three four five hours i get the next reading and when deteriorate instead in very very early saturday evening sambas where patients with covid nineteen had complications onset plaza including pulmonary. Embolism and even those patients could be safe because the doctors sawed really early and could could intervene also. The patient feedback is extraordinarily positive. People saying that You know they fell off them and finally. Finally if you're if you're just apply that to a health system view right and sort of this. Autumn wind talk at least in the northern hemisphere. This awesome window situation that we have now think about the other. The doctor looking after covid nineteen patients. Right in your sort of dashboard in front of you where you can. Easily in prioritize way look after one hundred hundred patients in the feedback from doctors is that indus prioritized list of patients where the patients with the highest fever on those oxygen. Saturation is at the top. You can about ten minutes and then you scroll through your list. That is sort of the live feedback that i found from doctors down anyway. So that's a bit of the year. As i very excited devout and of course that doesn't that is much just limited to covid nineteen right to all sorts of Diseases could benefit from remote monitoring both in the covid nineteen space then can envisage as remote monitoring a safe pathway for people with copd pd grosses on college to have that lifeline to the doctor and sometimes got interrupted in spring. But some of the doctors in this program actually said while this is so cool can actually use it also for just a non covid nineteen patients. Yeah you know. And that is exciting to see the application of remote patient care to other things outside of covid because a lot of times these chronic diseases that need continuous management. Just get those episodic you know visits and then you mentioned clinician safety and i think you know. The concern of clinicians safety has been has been elevated due to the pandemic the use of digital technologies to manage prioritize. And sometimes even control a monitor remotely could be very useful so you know. This is certainly an exciting time having the right model to approach this environment. It is critical. You've given us some high level examples obviously with the short time that we have today. We can't go deep But you've given us some good glimpses into some models that could work as companies and organizations and providers address some of the challenges and opportunities today to be as what would you say is one of the biggest setbacks that could be experienced. Maybe something that you guys went through. And what was a key learning that that came out of that or that could come out of that. I think are quite a quite a few learnings. i would say with digital health. I've had setbacks both on a on a sort of system level and as well as a A personal. And if i start with a system that have a lot of the setbacks explained by who owns owns and who owns the money today digital health solution of this innovation is addressing right. It sounds like a almost a shark. Tank dragon stan. Kind of western. But unfortunately it it is very true because the healthcare economics how they said today are sort of incentivizing certain behaviors incentivizing on the citizen level on the position that abbott on the health insurance lead in that sense when i work in digital health solutions. We usually look at that right there. We on the one hand look at the underlying value of the health system as we talked about a reform on the other hand we look and sound of the economic incentives. The economic flows earning. Watch for which type of activity in that sense. I think also how people in europe and sort of on the european continent cowardly thinking about it right which has been part of the healthcare innovation roadmap for europe for years from twenty twenty two twenty thirty some of the setbacks from the pasta. It's been very hard to implement. Things for incentives to question has now become an read. How could health economics and health hit. Incentives also be adjusted in a way that we actually promote hells to instead off. Try to fix disease in that sense. That has been some of the segments that i've seen in the past but also wear i'm hopeful that some of the discussions that are happening to da day about future health economics future healthcare instead of actually promising and and much needed. And yeah. i think if. I think about it on the more personal at one of my own setbacks that i had as its and wass my own realization a few years ago how i personally dealt with health regimen how i dealt with my health and how i dealt with stress and i realized that it wasn't very sophisticated and i have and you know i started carrying about stress management and how it relates to health and your own personal situation about five years ago when i realized that i had i felt like they had a wonderful life for wonderful wife. Wonderful wonderful job right. I worked on things. That are really count on you. Don't trust me. Feel quite stressed on the day to day level and i had struggled with what we could describe as recharging my batteries i was brought up with the principles that you i finish your work. Then then you relax might but what if a at least my perception at the time grunk never ends do is always cool things that you can do right abused as part of your work sort of digital health health ovation projects outside of work at center on the pasta that i worked very long hours. I slept too little then felt that the next day and so on as you know. I'm a biochemist saw. So then i also looked into this topic from a scientific perspective and then you find that. It's pretty obvious right. Negative sleep for example directly correlates with stress and feelings openings. Zayed you right. So it's a religious site of it is yeah it you know i appreciate you sharing that i mean i. I feel like as busy professionals. We we all go through it and You know and it's normal and we have to stop and we have to evaluate our own personal routines you know. I was working with the with the trainer for a long time. And then i stopped and then i just notice myself gaining way and before you know it you know like three or four months. I'm like okay. Get back with the program you know and saw it certainly is challenging and now cova did layer in the kovic challenge on top of that it does become more challenging appreciate your openness to schering some of those things to be as you know i think you provide a good example of what it is to be able to manage a lot but yet still get some good sleep. Enjoy your family while you're at it so to be as you know i really appreciate you sharing The challenge in you know having to take care of yourself better. Had you do it like what did you do to solve it. Good question for me. It's been a journey right. An and to be honest still on the night. You know i improve at least try to improve as i as i go along if i think back five years. The first thing was that i am. I stopped working with a with a coach. I personally sort of so. I as a initially as a stress management tropic read so that I started experimenting with the with meditation. And that was actually a huge game. Changer for me. Initially i was quite skeptical very much. That person you know. I i lived in my head right for me. It was always. What's the story in my head kind of situation then. I realized through meditation so that there is actually so much more right And for people who are really good at thank probably stop laughing but the for me. It was the realization of okay. There is sort of the story in my head and then there is sort of the emotions underneath and then underneath the emotions there is sort of the body's sensations right at so in my example that would be you know the story in my head would sort of go on go on right then. I would become aware of that. Extra be there is now stress. Anxiety isn't underlying emotion young right And the body sensation connected to that and at least for me and walson and and still is a very tight knot in my stomach right when i realized that right. That was already a big step forward for me. When i also realize that when i meditate a nice stop thinking about positive things like for example having my son on my daughter my lap sitting with me on my lap or so that i could really feel how that tight not in my stomach started the releasing right and that wasn't a bit the start of the johnnie also gone into into improving my sleep been particularly speed right said also digital health magadan with wearables and You're not to cut a long story short today as sleeping more with a healthy amount of sleep and it's incredible how this change has paid dividends red. I'm happier person. I feel like i'm also ba. Da husband and father and also feels like man. I'm most successful at work. This is actually. Let's to actually be also being asked to lead the program that we in at mckinsey called my experience. A program where i'm happy and very excited to do healthcare innovation within our company. I it's a program that pretty much helps people be at the best and that means that includes a lot of the things related to health and wellbeing that we talked about it and thinking about your path intrudes sleep fitness nutrition stress management anxiety management right. And i'm very happy to lead this program for from mckenzie. Germany and see the positive impact at this program has on individual companies and also the company as a whole. That's awesome. toby is and you know it's it's great that you didn't just stop at yourself right you. You went beyond and sat. Wow like meditation and better sleep. Distresses me. I want to share this with my team and so kudos to you for doing that. That's a that's a great story so let's take a step back here and look at you. Know the the economy the world the business. What are you most excited about today. This this of course. I'm excited that hopefully There is appropriate being made on kogas. Nineteen independent but beyond. I'm very excited about some of the wax that colleagues have done. It's a study called prioritizing. Health was done by a think. Tank the mckinsey global institute and then my call it that Healthcare from a different leads. They found that that it would make more sense to think about health and health town as an investment robina costs to be controlled and managed down one. And what makes me excited about is some of the things that they found some of the messages that come out of it which i think on a great messages for most people working in the in the health industry and an odd concerned an interested in health and well being more broadly first they found that using interventions that already exists today the global disease burden could be reduced by about forty percent over the next two decades forty percent by again applying what we have already today if one translates in terms of life expectancy and more importantly i feel sort of what is the amount of life you have in. Good health They they pretty much found that pretty much sixty five. The age of sixty five would be the new fifty five. If you're if you realize the health improvement opportunity didn't that of course would be a big deal because today at least in a lot of the western communities than countries life expectancy you often steal increases but additional life expectancy is life. You're being in poor health right whereas course everyone is much more excited about additional life years being spent in good health i heard it called health span versus lifespan. Yeah exactly yeah exactly completely agree if things about it that respect from a sixty five would be under fifty five. I think that's an exciting and very positive. Message the message that that got me extremely excited about this study is that forty percent of these improvements could be delivered at less than one hundred dollars for each additional life year. So that says there is sort of a lot of value on the table right and it's not like crazy expensive value on the table right. It is affordable value if looks at it from a health of them intervention versus kind of love and i think that is another very promising saudis when things about health and wellbeing from a mall from system level and then finally the. That's actually what i find personally. Most exciting is really thinking about health and healthcare from an investment perspective if you're Lead on in the country thinking about healthcare as a an investment budget regiment. And they are. They found that pretty much. Every dollar invested in health count in that way would have a return return of investment offer. Two to four dollars. I think that is something. That's very exciting. Because in the pasta just been very much that discussion of healthcare as that cusp backers but healthcare as an investment and we. How do we wanna live our health and well-being An how do we wanna think about. Healthcare investment in health to economics thing to serve as a hugely exciting topic not to be s. I think it's a good call out you know and In investment is a better way to look at it It's the health of a nation. The help of a of a region certainly contributes to the wealth of that area. And so i think it's a it's a great call out. You know the marginal investment as about the call it costs. I mean one hundred dollars per person per life year for a forty percent improvement best cheap and why not you know and so for those of you watching this and listening to our podcast today. It's certainly something to think about. You know these approaches and how we could tackle some of the largest challenges in our current healthcare environment you know to be as is bringing up some great points for us to consider and also challenge your model challenge your model because there's an opportunity to do more to do better so to this is awesome. I've i've really enjoyed the discussion today. And and the insights you've provided. And i'm sure the listeners and viewers have to before we conclude. I wish we could spend another hour together. Here but Obviously you know. Maybe we'll do a part to if you're up for it but really before we conclude give us a closing thought and the best place where the where the audience today can get in touch with you and the people on your team to continue the conversation of something today resonated with them show happy to him. I guess for the closed closing off. Just wanna come back to what is so many people's mind these days out. Can we manage covid. Nineteen and how can we actually put something in place that can help the us the physicians nurses. How can we help patients. And how can we can. We save people's lives at coming back to what i said earlier right to. There's actually quite some thinking out down. How digital health solutions such as patient remote monitoring can be can be implemented and can be scaled and a few thoughts for people in various regions cities or countries listening to that there is sort of a whole model around primary care digital health solutions. Well pilot studies have shown that that doctors in primary care practices like. Gp's out patient practices. They can be actually trained on bonded very quickly onto something like patient remote monitoring and this can be integrated also into websites so that patients don't need to show up in person or patients don't need to call in menu actually link that to to Websites have a few triaging questions on which of causes. also that's relevant in autumn winter. Distinguishing bit tweeden. Coa vessels influenza vessels quoted nineteen and lynching linking that to a pace remote monitoring for example download. An app if i just contrast that with that when i just had my daughter tested for covid nineteen few days ago. She's negative so It's been a phone marathon. Until i found sort of the right practice who was then testing at that particular day. It was a lot of paperwork. You'll put actually digitize these janis pretty quickly where you're for example would say the patient goes onto the website and to step postcode than a few triaging questions than the patient. Download the app. This app is connected to that doctor in a patient remote monitoring team who who than Follow up for example. One also imagine for mall central. Your restrictions saw countries to put into place a patient remote monitoring team at a hospital. Does darryl hospitals a few of them in europe that have have patient remote monitoring teams had understanding team pretty much on the leadership. Both professional assault is doing patient remote monitoring than you could do that as some sort of the solution that you have that scale of and can cover different hot spots in in but you could also see assault of a second line of defense where you could say in a certain municipality. There are some marija Being trained on that they don't have the first look after patients initially than if numbers rise in sort of the local passage he gets and you have a few hospital at pace remote monitoring teams that stepping in right not taking over a hundred two hundred five hundred thousand patients like that so in that sense. There's quite a lot of Of knowledge out there. I'm happy to to connect people who are interested in this You know given the time we are living. In autumn winter wave. That pretty much seems to have stopped. Just wanted to put that out there and happy to share some of this Thinking with people who might be interested to be as this great certainly a lot of things for us to think about as we as we conclude here today and For those that. Want to engage with you and you know further. Continue a conversation with you to be. What's the best way they could reach out to you or connect with your team. I guess the most pragmatic way would be to to connect with me on unlinked in where people can just enter my name and company name. Lincoln can also find my contact email and all soviet people twitter election. Find me at the nba. -sconsin basan 'em on twitter to to be as. Hey this is ben truly enjoyable and insightful and Folks just go to outcomes rocket dot health in the search bar type in tobias. And you're gonna find all the links to get in touch with the bs as well as links to anything that we've discussed. I'm not sure to be s. That research article you mentioned is available for public sharing the is it. Yeah it is data to put that into the link. Okay great we'll leave. The research conducted by To be as his colleagues in the show notes so just check all that stuff out there. It's where you get all the synopsis of everything. 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VelociPodcast 152: Can a Centaur identify as a Minotaur?

VelociPodcast

20:18 min | 2 years ago

VelociPodcast 152: Can a Centaur identify as a Minotaur?

"Loss of the loss of the loss of loss. Support cursed the loss of podcasts. Hey, sexy friend. He's making me his bitch. Maybe want to get a piece of that. I want to talk about sexy teens. I was getting erections. It's very creepy. I can guarantee that underwear theft will come up again. None of this is relevant Pokemon, cookie balls. Seven hundred and fifty middle will. Welcome to the podcast, a study and Manala. Gee, this is your grumpy ankle. Peter. He will say words at you clearly have been working through my daddy issues lately, because I've told multiple stories about my experiences with my father, my father plays guitar anyplace fairly. Well, and when I was young, I think it was about twelve I asked him to teach me how to play guitar now. See sat me down on chair and he put the guitar. He told me I had to cross my legs. And I asked why he said, that's how classical guitarist sit. So it's how you sit properly, but I was very self-conscious twelve year old boy in sitting like that wasn't comfortable. I'd never sat like that before. So actually sitting like that was physically uncomfortable. And quite frankly, the guitar being as big as it was, and I was still relatively small when I sat that way the guitar went up into my chin, and I couldn't even see the strings or where my hands would be. And, but it was more the self conscious aspect of sitting in a way I wasn't comfortable with that really, really. Put me off. But my father wouldn't let it go. He said, if I didn't I had to sit properly if I was going to do it. So, of course, I never came back for a second lesson. I think I learned acord I strummed it a couple of times, and then that was it. We were done. And I was supposed to come back and ask him if I ever wanted the second lesson, but I never came back because I knew the first thing you would do was made me, sit properly which I found very uncomfortable. Didn't want to do. So there's a neat question there. So is it worth making someone do something properly, if they're going to immediately quit? Or is it better to have them? Do it a slightly wrong way in maybe have that skill for the rest of their life because I don't play guitar. I don't play any instrument. I have no musical talent because I've never practiced, and I've never practiced because of that first negative experience because I was forced to sit in a way. I wasn't comfortable sitting, but also it comes down to enjoyment. Now, my father and his mind, I wasn't dedicated enough. I, I didn't really want it that badly. And I didn't I didn't want it that badly. I just thought, oh, there's guitars around the house guitars, in a neat thing. I see I see people on TV using them. They seem like kind of sexy. Maybe like to learn electric guitar down the line, and be rockstar, who knows. I didn't have a particular passion for it. But it was a neat thing. It was available and I wanted to try it, and I was immediately turned off doing it because I actually never saw anyone sit down playing classical guitar. I saw music videos guys were jumping off speakers and doing guitar solos way, cooler than sitting with your legs cross. I playing classical guitar. So I think maybe it's better to introduce people to new things in a way that they enjoy it, regardless of it being one hundred percent proper or not as opposed to them, not being able to pick up any new skills because should you get comfortable with the guitar? You might wanna learn classical guitar, and then sitting that way might make more sense, or you might start doing that naturally anyways, but it's the same thing when people who are left handed are forced to do things in a right handed way. A lot of them I can see. It's so uncomfortable. They wouldn't do it in the first place. Why who does it hurt? If they do it in technically wrong way. And actually pick up the skill. Takes us onto a whole different topic that just entered my head that there were no left handed samurai you had to, if you were left handed, you still had to learn to wheeled your sword with your right hand. So that old Japanese ideology comes in all of a sudden. But now I'm thinking a left handed samurai would really mess up everyone because they would have no idea what to do. The core question why are dragons on game of thrones in the hobbit done incorrectly? Those are wide Verne's not dragons. This is a problem. I've I have addressed several times. And it's the problem of people not understanding fiction. So I had to go look up the definition of wven just to make sure I knew what I was talking about. And to see to make sure I understood what this person was talking about. So the definition of a wide Vern is a winged two legged dragon with a barbed tail. And then if you look up the definition of dragon, dragon is a large serpent like legendary creature that appears in folklore of many cultures around the world beliefs about dragons, very drastically by region dragons, and western cultures since the high middle ages have often been depicted as winged horned four legged and capable of breathing fire. The first problem is that a wine is a kind of dragon and therefore calling into a dragon is perfectly acceptable. So the person who asked this question is trying to define something, which is actually a sub category of a big thing. So calling it a wider, and his correct, and calling it a dragon his also correct? So there's your first problem is they think that those are different things, and they're not once a subcategory of another now, that's like saying you shouldn't call people mammals, because they're humans, but humans are kind of mammal. So it is actually perfectly acceptable to walk around saying mammal, mammal mammal mammal. You actually just walk around saying that that'd be really weird. Now my personal problem is whenever someone complains about fiction. They seem to think that it's not fiction anymore that there are rules that apply to the fiction, but those are rules are only in their head, a great example of this is that these Bs in the Walking Dead are never referred to his own bees, because the author decided that in this fictional world. There had never been any zombie fiction, so they had never used that word so they call them walkers. And then when they meet different communities, the different communities have different names for. The undid who've come back in attack them. That's a really cool. Interesting thing. And I thought it was really nice touch never using the word zombie, the author when creating a fiction is free to create whatever they want and defined it any way they want. So when they are writing about dragons and game of thrones he could have called it whatever he wanted. He called it dragons, probably because we know what a dragon is. And therefore, you don't have to draw a big painting or an image, or an idea of what a dragon is as soon as I say dragon you have a fairly basic idea of what a drag and looks like so that's all work done for you by general mythology. That doesn't have to be done by the author, but he could have called them, androids, this big reptile like thing with wings that breathes fire that walks around on two to four legs, the androids have come because in his universe. He creates the name and. What is the name that everyone in that universe is going to accept the fact that you don't like it in that you're using a definition is come from another source means that other sources now irrelevant because it's not within this universe. It would be like if you read a science fiction, book, that talked about die lithium crystals and you got angry that they weren't using dilute the crystals the same way that, that term is used in Star Trek because Star Trek as far as I know where they originally coined the term die lithium crystals. But the fact that I've changed universe, and I'm using a similar word or the same word for different thing is perfectly acceptable, because that is how fiction works. So why are the dragons and game of thrones in the hobbit done incorrectly, while they're not you are incorrect, because first of all, you've not even understood the definition properly. Those are wide Verne's, not dragons, Wibran's are kind of dragon and therefore you can call them dragons, but more importantly, you misunderstood, how fiction works, because the most important thing to remember is. It's not real. Hip hitter in episode one fifty he referred to park or part, humans as centers, and I believe you assume that they're mythos species, and I happen to know that some of them will identify as mentors. So I'd like you to talk about mandatory, please. Yeah. Let's, let's talk about minute tours. 'cause that's that's how I wanna spend my life. That's, that's what I went to school for years and years of education university degree. Minute tours. Right. So there's a couple of actual issues. One, I had to do research for the center episode, which really sort of ruined a bit of me inside part of my soul died a little bit. And the reason is I had to go and read about centers and of course anything that's posted on the internet. People weigh in with their opinions, you get people's ideas, and thoughts and things. And in most of those are pretty awful. And I think the reason it bothered me was because there were actual people who, who were legitimately trying to take a stand on the center miniature issue. But it's very clearly divided. You can't identify as a minute tour or sent or you can't be a center who identifies as mentor because of the definition now, this, of course if you get into modern. Social politics is actually a very risky stands to take. So I'm taking a tough stand, but it's primarily because sentors are specie whereas the minute or is actually an individual, you have the center of the central is universally defined as a human torso attached to the physical body of a horse, but that it would even include the horse tour show, which is the first problem that comes up, when you think about centers, a minute tour is a human body with a Bullhead and a bull tail now we there were some questions as to whether a center could have a human body in horse torso, but throughout the mythos that never occurred, the, the minute tour. Specifically, though is the offspring of the creatine Queen pacify not hundred percent. Sure. I'm saying that Pepsi Fe and a majestic bull it's actually defined as a majestic. I don't know what the difference between a bona. Majestic bull is. In this cream Queen, why she was getting it on with a bull. It's I didn't read the whole story. And I think the reason I didn't read the whole story is because I didn't want to. I took a deep dive once into Zeus. And basically, it was all the things that Zeus had raped. And after that, I kind of kind of. Lost a bit of my taste for mythology because there was a bit too much rape. And there was a lot of interactions between animals, and people now, the one of the things I brought up in episode one fifty cent tour episode was the story of Mr Hans, and Mr Hans had a horse provide sexual services for him and it killed him. Now, I don't know what's going on with this cream and Queen. Or the majestic bull. But the fact that a she survived that, and be produced offspring brings up a lot of questions and questions that we're not going to get answers to, again, because I'm not going to do that research. So could a send tour identify as a minute tour when, when people say identify something else, they referred to a general thing it would be difficult for someone to say that identify as different individual, like if you said guy who sent in this question, my name is guy, but I is grumpy Okla. Peter, that would be very hard thing for people to accept now, you could say, I defy as a different gender, you could say dentist, as a lot of things we know that phrase identifies different animals, mostly fictitious ones, and there's a step beyond that, which is the one that sort of confuses me where it's the. The people who identify as an anime character, and that's actually where I start to draw the line in that I think somehow I can accept you identify that you are a dragon you could identify that you are from the world of Nado toe you are a Nado ninja. But when you say I defy as a specific character like I buy as rock Lee, the problem is, when you meet someone else who identifies as Rockley, and this is apparently, a real conflict that has happened on the internet, which is, again, why the internet is just maybe a place that should be closed off burned. You get these two people who both identifies Rockley and then you can't have a singular rock Rockley. But the whole point is that Rockley is an individual. You run into the same problem now with the center minute or question because the miniature isn't a species. It's a singular individual. So could you have multiple centers identify as minute tours? And here we've gotten into a series of sentences that I never wanted to say in my life because they're not identifying as something different from them in general. Because being a minute or is no longer just a feeling or an understanding or something you identify as being a minute tour is singular. So the question then is do you accept that you could that you guy could identify as me Peter, but then I think the secondary question is to why won't accept it is what happens to me. Peter because I defy as Peter can we both identify Peter can compete or be a universal state of being which I don't think it can and primarily because the universe would collapse in on itself. So just because there are a mixture of body parts, you have the center torso in the horse body in the Bullhead in the human body. Those do not quite, they're not the same thing. And the centers are abominations but they are an abomination that is a species that has generalized the minute tour is unique. I. Don't think you can really justify identifying as a unique individual in the universe because once something is an individual wants something that's unique. It is different from all other things. And so you can't identify is that because you can't fully encompass or understand what that thing is. So that's why guy cannot identify as me. That's why those anime kids can't actually identify as an individual anime character because they can't actually understand all the worldview. And so they don't really share all the feelings of that person of that character, the thinking about the minutes for which is again, something I never really wanted to do in my life. I realized that the miniature I've a big question about the mentors brain because it has a Bullhead doesn't necessarily mean it has a bull brain. So does the minute tour behave more like a bull or more like a human or is it some kind of actual hybrid? Because I think it's presented as a hybrid. It's actually in the things I've read presented as more animalistic than human. It's sort of a rage machine. And so they have that big maze built for it. I don't really know why that was a better solution. But they made the big maze the labyrinth that he was kept in now what I do know. And this is again, maybe a big differentiation between the minute or in the centres the minute tour was given youths and maidens to eat, so he ate human flesh, send tours. Now, I don't know specifics about their diet, and that's actually a big question that I had because they technically would have multiple stomachs. They would have the human stomach in the front, and then they would have the horse stomach sort of down later in their body. So which stomach gets used because the human stomach in the hor- stomach don't process foods, the same way send tours are depicted as eating meat and hunting. So they are not depicted as eating youths and maidens, not specifically. So we don't know of that's true that actually might be the diagram of creatures, but somehow, the mentor makes more sense, because he just has one stomach. So he eats and he digests very much like a human would does the center eat meat that is digested in the human stomach. And then graze on grass, which is digested in the hor- stomach. How would it know which one to use? Does it have to Asaf agai? One where the path for meat goes to one stomach. And one that goes to the horse stomach, which is way longer because it actually would kind of go all the way through the human part of the body into the horse body. Yeah, it just leaves too many questions, the digestion of the center is now, my biggest sticking point is, how does that work know someone needs to explain what descend towards eat? And if they only eat meat or hunting, if they if they hunt and they eat meat primarily say their primary source of food is protein of some sort other animals, does that have a negative impact on the horse side of their body because it seems like it would I don't think you could feed horses high protein diets like meat, and they would remain healthy, just like you can't take predator and give them some sort of grass fed diet, expect them to remain healthy, so there are very specific physiological differences. But I think that's not the big problem. Because you can identify as someone who's different from you in a general sense. It's the individualized nature of the minute, or that makes him unique in the world you could say you identify is the miniature, but you actually wouldn't understand what the miniature feels because the minute tour feel specific things, and you can't feel the exact same things. I mean it is possible. You could feel the exact same things, but you couldn't say it to such a degree with confidence the you're feeling the same way that you are actually therefore in a body -ment of the minute tour. So the reason ascend tour cannot identify as a minute. Tor is the individualized nature of a singular being in the universe. The minute tour and digestion. The loss of the loss of the loss of the law support coast. The loss of podcasts. Hey, sexy friend. He's making me bitch. Thank you for listening. If you have questions or comments, you can tweet at Veloce Peter or Email, Vallejo, sack podcast, g mail dot com. You can find the podcast on night, Younes Stitcher at cost, or go to villa Z Peter dot com slash podcast. Quite frankly, way, cooler than sitting at a table of quite cool way, cooler than sitting with your legs.

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466 The Four Sacred Gifts; Indigenous Wisdom Shared by Author Anita Sanchez

Mindfulness Mode

44:16 min | 1 year ago

466 The Four Sacred Gifts; Indigenous Wisdom Shared by Author Anita Sanchez

"Mindfulness mode four hundred sixty six. We get a choice every moment of every day to either good medicine or bad medicine and good good medicine is really about welcome to mindfulness mode. I'm Bruce Langford host and creator of the mindfulness mode podcast so glad glad to have you with us today. I have an author that you'll hear. You'll hear that I get really excited about her work. Her book is phenomenal. Manala and I just really felt that it was such a clear way to understand some of the biggest issues we're dealing with today shame team and forgiveness but more about that in a minute I want you to have my waves of content guided meditation mindful tribe. It'll help you be more focused and have a better sense of calm in your life. You'll feel more contented and more peaceful. This meditation is yours mindful tribe tribe free at mindfulness mode dot com forward slash waves of content so I hope you enjoy that so now without further do sit back relax and enjoy today's episode with the Wonderful Anita Sanchez mindful tribe. I've just finished reading a book that impacted me in so so many ways I mean it was such a beautifully written book. It was so much about forgiveness. It was about shame it it was about so many things community and this book is written by a Brilliant Wise Generous Wolman woman who I have with me right here. Today I have the wonderful author Anita Sanchez. PhD Anita are you in mindfulness this mode today I am totally present. It feels so good to be here and to be a conversation with you. Finally that's great and you you know what when you read a book that impacts you and then you know you're going to be spending time with author. I mean that is an absolute gift. It really is and and I'm. I'm just so thrilled. Tell us what mindfulness means to you and Nita Yup mindfulness to me is about being present but let me explain explain it also in an indigenous way so in addition to sway. We get a choice every moment of every day to be there. Good medicine or bad medicine and good medicine is really about the mindfulness is basically saying that it's anyone or anything can help make this happen and it's putting get alignment the spiritual mental emotional and physical and when that is in alignment one is truly present able able to open heart mind body. Everything is present to what is so instead of the the crazy mind going off into pass into the future. We're allies have clarity in here in the living right now now anita. I talked about the book. I don't know if I mentioned the name of it is the four sacred gifts and the subtitle is indigenous wisdom for modern times and yeah such a wonderful book. You can check it out at four four sacred gifts dot com mindful tribe just going to share a little bit more about you Anita Anita Sanchez. PhD As tack and and Mexican American is a transformational leadership consultant. She's a speaker a coach and author of this book that I've been talking about Oh and she bridges indigenous teachings with the latest science to Inspire and equip women and men to enjoy meaningful full empower full lives and careers so one of the things that you do. Is You define indigenous so let's start there. Let's talk because your definition of indigenous indigenous really is everyone. All human beings are indigenous because we all are from the Earth every element innocence of of the Earth Water the stars so we are all indigenous but when I say indigenous in the context of today I'm talking about human beings people bowl who have stayed connection to the traditions to the connection to the earth through ceremonies dance through their oral history so that that that connection has not been lost whereas for many of us who are come from the earth bills cultural knowing that original original knowledge there was a there was a separation from it so that's when we talk about indigenous people were really talking about people nations Sion's and tribes all over the world who have kept that connection to the Earth your book the four sacred gifts outlines these four gifts this and the first one and has such a powerful gift is the power to forgive the unforgivable and at first of course when I started hardy to read the book I thought well what does that really mean the unforgivable and of course it wasn't long before I understood what it meant but maybe you can tell us what what does it mean. Forgive the on forgivable. The unforgivable is something that's fairly large for people so it's hard to define it for a particular person because sometimes it's accumulation of little hurts and mistreatments that become the big unforgivable but when I was talking about the big unforgivable I was thinking about some some of the things that pretty much every human being across all different cultures around the world will say his unforgivable by abuse this sexual abuse incest or the killing the annihilation of whole groups of people which was true for most many indigenous most people around the world it was about a radical us and they forgot that we were seat so they tried to bury us but as the saying goes we're seed so we remain so so that's when you think about those things that the hurt and mistreatment is so big so deep that each feels the allusion is as if it is unforgivable doubt certainly is in here in Canada. I know that it's just devastating to think of how we have treated indigent indigent people it's just so shameful and so sad and but it isn't just in Canada of course I mean it's it's it's it's not but it it just it hurts so much nothing you're but we you all are in the process what I see from the outside from us that a whole row that read that pathway to forgiveness because you have as a country acknowledged unlike in the US we haven't done a formal acknowledgement knowledge that you've acknowledged what happened the taking of sacred lands the taking of a water the killing of people putting people in boarding schools and it the let's go on in that list is actually pretty true for us as well only you all have acknowledged it and then you have actually put in place now education of all people in Canada but starting in elementary school about what is the true history rather than washing it over as most nations and countries due to only show the viewpoint of who is so called the winner of whatever the war whatever it was so it's very powerful because as I talked to my brothers and sisters of various tribes from Canada they shared with us you know the great works it. It still needs to happen but also have a different kind of lightness awareness ability to act because they have a whole whole nation that they are part of that has acknowledged what has been and it's not just past tense which in these two touche's that exist today day embedded in there is the favouritism is the bias conscious and unconscious bias towards the mainstream people versus the people who had already been there who had cared for the land and cared for each other yeah so true. Why should you forgive? That's one of the questions did you ask and I absolutely loved the answer because it gives you true freedom to help create positive change and that's not all. Let's talk more about why we should forgive its import. What I've found Bruce though is that it's hard for people to take in end the softest part of the year hearing in their mind and their heart why should do this? I'd like to percents what forgiveness is not because people mistake that and that's why they go oh I can't do this. Forgiveness doesn't mean that you forgot. Forgiveness doesn't mean that you don't seek justice to change systems that structure so that pain pain that hurt that mistreatment doesn't happen again. Forgiveness doesn't mean you're week or beach praying a whole group of people forgiveness as you mentioned it is a path to freedom is what I found is. The pathway not only to freedom is the freedom to find out and discover and live in a way that you truly unconditionally can love yourself. I never knew that hurts. Mistreatments unforgivable would stop me from being able to be a whole human and being enjoy of being who I am. What forgiveness allows you to take off all the way the heaviness the energy that we use? We only have so much energy every day that I was using in holding onto the upset the resentment of what happened and didn't happen happen in my life. Due to the incest that was part of my life from age four to thirteen or the murder of my father based on race is why he was killed taken for a black man back in the mid sixties and what happens is when you carry you that anger that resentment that Energy Nelson Mandela said it doesn't do anything to the person you're directed or the group of people it eats at you and so I hi actually came to a place in my teens and early twenties where I used to tell people or my well pain is so deep it big and my well joy is so small and that's a distortion. That's a lie that is the lie of the illusion of pain in her mistreatment new think that's all there is an worse Bruce Bruce worst of all is that you get so identified with the pain and hurt that you think that it's your identity and that is so untrue and when I could start feeling that out because of using the various skits why could start feeling that way. I began to discover that even though that my story are some things that many people will have never extended oh my gosh. How could you forgive that just unthinkable? It's not at all because what I realize is I put down the arm or when I put down this notion of separation I realize all the good things that were present present that I couldn't be present two because I was storing it in all the anger in the fight and so when I began to let that go more and more more of love for myself of the freedom and ability to be with other people and other beings all the teachers that I got as a child or my grandmother Hi there my mother than digital about us being one in connection began to fill my life and oh my Gosh I you come to a plate wait. Why did any way that you don't want any of these horrible things happening to other people however I also would never change my life because of the strength I think the post traumatic growth that I experienced from having gone through that so it's not at all idolizing the pain and mistreatment mm-hmm we need to stop there and there's movement all of the world to stop the mistreatment of women and girls and stop the racism and all of that but I am saying is that there's always a choice in the choices to get sacked in spiral downward in that also for all of is here is the choice of possibility to move move towards resilience towards growth towards ability to be president in the world in a way an understanding that gives you even then more ability to move forward free of a lot of fears because you've gone through such a process of letting go and forgiving? I loved how you you went through this step by step. How do you forgive here a ways? This is how I did it. This is how you can do it and you said you know it can take a long longtime or it can take an instant. You can simply decide just like that. I'm going to forgive this person and it can just take an instant. I mean that's incredible edible. It's it's true I am both to an I learn to hold open as I helped create the Grayson space for other people to empower themselves salves to to take to make choices that it could be any of those. I have a story All shorten it but I think is an important one so hard of the healing the forgiveness parts of it happened very quickly but one of them that took longer was the murder of my father. He worked in a steel mill. He get very dark in the summer are in one seven. He was also an alcoholic so one summer after work. He went to get his beer before he came home. He didn't know earlier that day of black men and white men were having an argument so while he sat there drinking his beer the white man returning just saw his profile and shot several bullets who is heading killed on the spot. Will I mean that's terrific. If it comes thirteen I had six brothers and sisters were from age nine to nineteen my mother seventh grade education and she always worked all the time but at that point you know I remember remember her ever not working to put us all through private school and just doing the best she could for all of us in education be Keelan but what happened the week after that was enough for anyone especially thirteen year old too just like what do I do with that but the year week after my father's murder a white woman and a young white boy who somewhere somewhere around my age came to the door and I was by my mother and she identified herself as the wife and the son of the man who murdered my father will you could imagine agent. I could feel my mom. She was a very solid short woman but very solid. I could feel her shaking. I was just and then women that I had to tell you Mrs Sanchez my husband was a good man. He never would have killed your husband. If he knew he was Mexican and native American he thought he was black and she went on to start saying bad things about black people and I remember Merav shaking even more and she's finally shouted at her stop. You don't even know what you're saying. Don't even know what you're teaching your son I want you to I know that I'm going to try really hard to pay for your soul that you get off my porch and that night my mom said something that forever or a wise woman wisdom it doesn't have anything to do with age education through through what we know that for mindfulness right and she sat a six kids down and she said this you need to understand a white man murdered your father not the white race I will say at one more time and I will not say it again. A white man barter her father not the white race and then she opened the Kansas City newspaper where I grew up in Missouri and she showed a picture that was my father laying on bar four with blood around his head and she's now this this you this is racism. This is in the newspaper would ever a person of color whenever a black man you know Asian native American. She didn't say for color was an attorney back then she she made all the debris. If that something violent has gone up in the paper full but if a white person some him they never have that because they treat them with dignity knitting respect like a human being that we have to change and then it took years neatly I went to school college. At Sixteen I started sorry working corporations in my mid twenties and in rooms doing diversity inclusion we're hearing white men and women who talked about their parents teaching them that they were better than people of color but they also said they loved their parents but they were not they do not believe that and they were delivering their life in a different way and what happened to me. Bruce is that dream of that day that happening lived in me for many any many years I started having that dream again of a white woman and her son only everything in here everything word for word but I couldn't see the white voice his face he was gone it was really creepy and then over time with hearing incorporations the circles of white men and women's sharing what what they have been taught in that they were releasing and creating something new allow me to then one day had that night a dream where I could see the young boy space. I mean to this day. If I were to meet this man I would know who he was and what I I hope for him is that he had a good life. 'cause what about thirteen year old Anita didn't understand because she was so faint pilled with pain and suffering. Was that that summer day I lost my father but that's summer day. Young white boy lost his father doing grew up knowing his father was a murder and and today if I knew what I knew back then I would open the door and said come in. Let's talk. It can't take a lot of time to heal and it's worth it and it can be a snap where with a practice you you could just release things not pretending not doing a mind thing. We'll I'm going to act as if you truly you can release it. All of it is possible. It requires your your choice you choosing consciously are and are unconsciously you could be making those choices and you will be rewarded with avarice and that's just so wonderful and you are wonderful storyteller. I love the story about how you are fighting this whole thing about writing your doctorate paper and and you're just fighting it fighting fighting it and then you just you just they said you know to what was it grandfather and grandmother how some people would call it God mccown God yeah and you said if you want me to write this send. What did you say? Send me a sign so yeah send me aside. Tell us this man slam the door. All while think of my mother would just be horrified cheered me cursing grandma GRANDPA. They're like that and when I looked out these big windows in my house an eagle flew by so I put my hands on my hips and I said okay all right every morning by get up at five o'clock to go the bathroom all come out here. Look out the windows and if the so you don't flies by that I'll go downstairs and write for three hours okay so we took three a little over three months. Every day. I went out and darn if there wasn't an eagle that fly fly. That's not a usual occurrence fly and worst of all bruce is so I would go down and right for three hours and then some mornings I come up at eight o'clock side right provide eight come up to make my breakfast and I sit down and another Darn Eagle would fly back by the window and I have to go back downstairs and write for another three hours but what magic so many different things one is that you know they're other beings that that we're not necessarily taught indigenous people. I think other people are too that they make the connection you know the trees are there for the water. Is there for for us. The four legged the wing and all were all connected where all our precious relations were all connected but ben is when I realized that there had been and for some time the eagles are part of helpers to me and they wanted this book written because minding my phd they wanted noted that down and it was important for me to be able to move into some of the places CEOS of Fortune one hundred corporations in places to have that was important but I only could have happened because of the eagles the eagles every day and I was true to my word that's really important. They helped me every day to get that and in your early days you wore armor. You described it as your illusion of separateness armor Tillerson vote what because all that I heard that happened to me as a trial with the rapes and stuff and then with the murder of my father and then go on. I'm a Latina Azteca second woman young girl. All that stuff is that I started putting our rouce I was going to say no. One's GonNa hurt me. I'm GonNa go through life on my own. I'm GonNa do anyway you know and I just put up this armor just really tough barely smiling and stuff and what I found when I went away to the University of Colorado at age sixteen the action was seventeen. The first year was in Missouri other all these indigenous people there I start connecting them and then all these white folks and Mexican Americans and I just my community just kept getting bigger and they kept saying me as a leader and so they'd have me speak for them. In the MIC. I've never had trouble speaking in front of people so and Iran ramp pursued by they were seeing all these thing in me that there was this thing in my mind that was saying I'm a fraud imagined other people that are listening to said they have of those most like Oh. This isn't true they. You know I'm just they don't see the real need it will see all of me but what it happened by being seen by others helped me to start lowering this armor and lowering and lowering it to where it allowed and I realized I kept the bad stuff out at least a lot of it but I was keeping out the good stuff that armor that we build in our mind are really literally build. Well it keeps out the good stuff and one can't live like that. We need each other. There's what I say what the elders taught me over the years is that human beings can have the condition of being lonely human beings are never we're never locked and when that finally realization should sunk in I am never alone. I have the water that's going through. That's nourishing me and the food earth the birds the trees providing shade then then I have my mother my father my brothers my sisters my friends there. Virtually we don't do anything alone. We are always connected. It is the mind that state of loneliness and so we can train it being my focus trainer so we don't fall down into that but can come back to the abundance that we're part of so that we can come back to knowing what we need not take too much because we can be sufficient to that seven generations out. We'll have plenty for everyone so that armor came down really from the gift of unity is others wanting to be joining in Dan and it looks like from the outside being their leader their student body president like I was but it over time I actually dropped further and further or giving accepting them giving to them being in flow that debt really then I realized Oh my gosh the power our really connecting collaborating with people when you don't have armor up on my gosh there's so much energy so many solutions that were able to cremate folklore each other's wives for the larger communities lives. Both I'm talking about for the Community of human beings as well as the other beings are right yeah. Oh Yeah I just love how you're able to communicate all of this as we talk but also in the book and one of the things is that you learned from the time you're young child was how to listen with the softest part of your ear and you've already alluded you did that. Tell us what that really needs will first of all it means you have to shut your mouth so we learned very little from my second grandmother about listening so it was like there is nothing come out of your mouth and then it's truly being present with the soft partier the south is part of your heart so what that it means what happens and she didn't use this language as a little girl but that you were present to the actual being nasty aliveness somebody else or something else that they have made or what is part of their being that you don't have to compete with. I don't have to sound off because I am present to what they are. So the lesson one of the lessons she taught me in sharing this because I love is bring my grandmother back who are lost in the sixties physically lost but she's always been around at aged for my little sister who then was prop was only about two over two and my older sister who's a couple of years older than me. We were staying at our home and early one morning morning on a Saturday morning. She got us up. It was still dark. Got Us a win outside with summertime and we were by her garden and it was August so the sunflowers were out big time but she had a stand there and as the sun rose we know talking we just faced with sunfire was and every hour that day she stopped whatever we were doing and we'd go over to the sunflower and we'd move with the sunflower in silence and just be there present to the sunflower so by the end of the day you can imagine we had turned always looking toward the sun and then the sunset and being present to and Oh my gosh here's a woman who had no formal education indigenous woman that to this day I use the lessons of being present to one with even in darkness turning towards the light that I've used in my carpet work in my community work all over the world it. She embedded that in the I felt like a cellular way those lessons which all of us can get we have inches or not having a second grandmother win. We can be present like that listening with the softest art of our ears. We are able to not only share here what is being exchanged but even in the silence in between which is to say you can hear the music between the words and Bruce to this day when people hard illicit will it. Does it takes practice to that you can be quiet to the calm your mind to be present truly in wanting to be there for another being but I'll tell you once you start doing da you hunger for it like I hunger for being silence listening with US office part of my ear because it's another level of intimacy and connection that can happen in a second between a child and a parent between coworkers you know between in the community just going by total stranger and that being present to them if they have words or not worse it's so powerful it helps you not forget that we truly are one who of wife not to world's not a develop world undeveloped world not all these different we are one coupe of life and he hit years like giving to listen to the other beings. We are one hoop of life. I just love that four sacred gifts dot com mindful tribe. You really need to check this out and you can check out the facebook place where you'll find Anita Anita Sanchez. PhD The HD on facebook and twitter Dr Anita Sanchez now Anita another one of the things you talked about in your book is is a well of joy and a well of pain and how are you dealing with this. What is a well of joy? What is a well of pain? Let's talk about well. I think that's the the healing process that we all need to do on a daily basis. It's not a one time event like love the shot like me so I never ever have to suffer now. The healing process is the process and so what happens over time you just realize that okay. I'm suffering right now. Something thing happen in than I have choice about and it's not about denying it or pushing down because it'll come out some other way. It's really looking at it putting in the light seeing it before Ford is and what I call a positive balance so I'm always look so. What's the learning here? What do I have to be grateful for things? The eldest told us you know like be careful. Full of what you think be careful what you say because once you have that you can't take it back what you can put out a new so I'm always when the suffering or pain or a healing these happen acknowledged it because I don't want to just pretend like look at it see it and then what is the learning here in what's to be grateful for and so that well of pain that I used to think the illusion that was all my life and there was this little bitty has really totally opposite is a very small malwal pain that I continue to release that and the well of joy is huge. Let me also say this like the seasons seasons like the day tonight. Things are shifting and changing all the time so it's not about trying to hang onto at specific acidic either God when I was eighteen or I get joy when I first learned whatever it is is leading that too because that hanging on is preventing Banou from coming to so that's that's what I'm talking about in being taught in having my learning to understanding more deeper that we hold onto all that so as thought leaders as leaders of our own lives talking necessarily organizationally or anything or even in the family we are that that we get to hold onto all of this. We get to decide how we want to live our life and so I leave my life as an the digits for standing -able harmony enjoy either is when we pay attention to our relationship the human beings to Letter Ping's nature and to spirit that is living as a whole human being and that is what can bring harmony because collectively we come together we get to just it's expansive in 'em. Is it really well really amazing so Anita. Do you have a story about bullying that you can share with us where mindfulness maybe would have made a difference. Yes I can at all just a here so many bowling bowling stories working with the clients both in business as well as working with young people in high schools and things but I will share one of mine which is some young girl I love and I still do unlawful to read a going to the museums and libraries with some sort of my escape from some of the traumatic stuff stuff that was happening in my my childhood and I remember going to the library and looking different being Mexican American and native American. I remember having my books. Check out in a few kids came by and I it was not an accident. They literally pushed me down and of course I was upset. I was fairly young. I think I must have been around eight eight and what I remember as I was trying to not cry and pick up in all sorts of messages in me like I should know better why all these messages critical the critical self about what I could have done and all of a sudden there's hands there and it's the librarian who is helping me pick up the books but I remember her taking her hand under my Chin and just lifting up just the slightest and smiling at me never said anything and I felt like this woman was practicing mindfulness being presidency and for a moment I wish it was I wish I could have practiced more but for that moment I could feel in the presence of someone else being really present to another being in carrying that you don't need a lot of words words but I also had who's able to connect to myself that this was not my fault and that I'm not alone own and that she was there so I think that's one of the areas where I felt bad mindfulness. Well it was president and she helped show me that again to go there because that was part of my teaching for my grandmother my mom to be able to do that but when you're in the midst of the something bad happening wing it can be especially as a young person difficult to do but they are taking a breath being present to the good things things that were around me which in this case was the was the librarian in other cases was being around and seeing birds the trees to I'd like rebound the and reconnect me too that this isn't my whole life my whole story. This is a bullying and being mindful can help me be better better about where I am and how I am and how I wish to be in the world that is a beautiful story and speaking of birds. I know the red cardinal is a bird that you mentioned in the book you talked about Nico and story about Nico in the turtle you brought up is a sacred symbol. Can you tell us about the turtle in the Red Cardinal and their significance was in the gift of hope mom both my sons had blessing ways not the same as a baptism at all but it's is basically from a tribe getting really initiated connected a clear ceremony of you belong and so at a box came in a ceremony for my youngest one in my youngest one Nikko was only twenty months old at the time and who's just a beautiful ceremony Emoji and he had me take off Nikko's little shirt because he had the earth and Nikko he was about to start painting his body and Nikko pushed. There's just hanaway and put his little fingers into the earth the powder and begin painting his own body Eve never seen this before and Eddie's face. Is it hard faces of the thirteen of us. A circle were just like mesmerized this little child could do this and then Eddie set. I set him down on the floor at Eddie gave to him Eddie not only being the longest over thirty years of leader on the Sundance for the people he also made flutes and so we had made this flute for Nico and at the top of the was at the end of it was this little turtle and at the place where you would blow hello into the food was this carnal and he explained to Nikko that she was this little turtle and that the cardinal would forever be there for or him watching over and that what nickel needed to understand even as this little turtle that everything mattered every rethought in every step no matter how small it was was important and that he was sacred and so I we still hold that had that flute loot when he finally finished his college moved his own place. I'll take that but it was so very powerful and I want to close. The stories of the cardinal is so important written power power every animal. Every creature is sacred but it's not that we worship the animals are the beings is the characteristics of them that we know we could emulate that they're teaching us and we're teaching them that we're all connected but at the end of that Eddie sat down and began drumming and chanting and my son who's five and a half years older soon within about seven six or seven at the time sitting next to Eddie and Nico Starts Stance and Bruce the way he was dancing. It's not like a twenty month old like a dance. It was powerful in Nikko said I could here him say Eddie. How does he know at is he not do that and Eddie said Alex the ancestors are with your brother? The ancestors are with you. They ancestors are with all of us. We only need to remember Nikko Remembers Remembers. I love that story while and I loved the book for Sacred Gifts at for sacred gifts dot com Anita. This has been amazing as we move forward. I want to ask you five quick answer questions so just thirty second answers would be perfect. Here's the first question I need to tell us who is one person who has influenced mindfulness in your life. Yes well right now. I'm thinking of Eddie Box Fox the story I just told you about ready could be silent. Eddie could be present to where he could turn and see this just the little point to the light on a leaf on Aspen tree and the joy that that brought by being present beautiful. How is mindfulness affected your emotions anita huge because emotions part of the thing about emotions is there again they make it seem like that's all there is in that they could go on and on and all all this whereas I understand that emotions are part of being a human being but just like anything they're meant like the seasons like the time of the day like anything they are met net to to go there meant to be released not held onto so mindfulness being in that practice has helped me to be able to release emotions? It's as they're meant to be released rather than being held on to tell us how breathing is part of your mindfulness always has been yes breathing thing but all different kinds of breathing so the deep breathing to really go down into your whole body that just like roots me like oak tree when I see both cleanses but it's just like rudeness but also the fast quick breath to waken me when I would go hunting as a child by dishes. This is elders taught me like if you're starting to get sleepy than do the short breast and Waken you and it was always awakening Bruce. There's this whole joy in the journey of awakening awakening awaiting that affects our behavior in our actions beautiful. If you could recommend a book related to mindfulness what would that it'd be well of course you're with your right and I'm so proud in honored to have to be on your show but also high spend a lot. It's hard to pick one because I'm a member of the Transformational Leadership Council and so Michael Back with I mean there's so many so many leaders Marianne Williamson and just all their works are being mindful da who is amazing consultant and mindful teacher Michael Teacher and not going to be much help there. I I just think pickup one start with Bruce's pick up a book and kick it into the practice. You probably will realize you've already been doing that because that's part of just your own sacredness but you'll be able to go much further when you get that kind of mentoring through a book or in person from someone yes absolutely true crew. Are there any APPS that you would recommend. Maybe APPs that that you use or any of your clients or anybody you know that can help with mindfulness mind movies. is one of the APPS that I have and Natalie lead well wonderful in having people become more mindful and then also in manifesting using the law of attraction. I think her her her work is powerful. Deep and yet so berry simple made simple even though it's drawing a lot of neuroscience as well as I I believe some of the digital squeezed him that it's usable so I I like that happened my movies that's great yeah no put all of this into our show notes and of course mindful tribe checkout for sacred gifts dot com and Anita's book the four sacred gifts. 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Beware, Dont Tell Delilah!

Orville R. Beckford Ministries Podcast: "GRACE WITHOUT BORDERS!"

33:26 min | 2 years ago

Beware, Dont Tell Delilah!

"Well, well, well pleasant good day to you, wherever you are in the world on this special day. It is my pleasure to come to you, another time with another podcast coming from grace without borders. This is Bishop Orville bickford, seen as saying, thank you for tuning into this broadcast. It is my hope. And as you listen to the spot cast that you will be inspired. You be edified and you'd be motivated to share with somebody who you believe it might be a blessing and an inspiration to them as well. Of course, Boorda's come from or be ministered this as Bishop or Rubik sina thanking you again. And is my help. I'm that per as you listen, you will subscribe to the part guys, so you will always get every episode that I do. You'll tell your friends about it. And by the way, it can be heard on all of the popular podcast platforms, and it can be also listened to my. Site at all bickford dot com or Obita for dot US, and you can just go to podcast page, and you can listen does matter where you are in the world are what device that you use today. I wanna talk a little unique subjects and it is bewilder, don't tell Delilah. Don't tell Delilah when you hear the name, Delilah, it, generally speaks of one thing in the mind of everybody who are familiar with scripture once we hear the term, Delilah it points back to the woman who the seved Samson in telling her where is Trent was her desperate cry for him to pool. How much he loved her was nothing more than her cry to make herself rich because of the. The promise on the contract. She had if her finally and friends, who were the enemies of Samson, if she could find out where lie is strength, and let them know that she would be paid a great sum of money. But don't tell Delilah and I will also say, don't hang out with Delilah. Here is what is important in this thought it is not so much of the name and person of Delilah. But rather the character of the Lila in this sense, there is not a feminine character per se. So we don't want to in this podcast. Get your mind focused on a woman, a female our agenda, but on a certain character, and I'll I'll I'll explain that in a little bit. The meaning of the word Delilah is important to give perspective to the thought the word actually means one feeble. He that weakens. It means to be oppressed to bring low are to make Finn, etc. So then we can also say be careful who you hang out with look for those who will we can you the own saying is that if you play with puppies, you'll will catch. They're fleas, if you hang out with the wrong, people, they will have negative influence on your life, and we must be aware of that, because sometimes we just casually and carelessly, just handled with the rump, people get our says attach with the people who will not be a source of inspiration to encourage us to become stronger spiritually. But will feed on a speech of strength, and we're us down our bring us down our cars focused to be diverted from what we previously desired to, to serve the Lord and how we intended to walk. So we must be careful who we hung out with Anhui may or friends, and who influence our lives. It is interesting in the scripture because, as we always recognize that names have meaning and they often speak of the character of the people as the oftentimes person's name is an indication of their character character is tied into their name. So we look at those that we find in the scriptures. It is interesting that may maybe God intended to use. These people are to make an example of them. So the influence on their parents in naming them. Was a an indication of the character that bay would eventually develop because again, God, who is all knowing his foreknowledge. And what he saw from the beginning to the end on who will be part of his ministry are part of his plan and process, how he would fulfill is plan apprently. He allow those people to be named even on known to everybody else who they were and why they had their name and also was just just what's the some story. And as we read about this something story, it goes back into minds about Delilah. And this great man sumps, and how he was brought down how he had a great covenant with God and how it ended up that he just lost it and gave away the secret that should have been kept between Imon God. So as we as we think about. Don't tell the Lila beware. Don't tell the Lila don't hang out with the wrong people. Don't be influenced by negative things. One Israel sinned, looking at just before something even was conceived in his mother's womb, here is years. What happened Israel Sinden was delivered to the Philistines for forty years. The angel of the Lord appeared to the wife of Manoa, who was from the family of done and told her behold now, you are buying, and you do not bear, but you shall conceive and beer, a son. There are stipulations to this pregnancy, because this child shabby special Bobby said he should drink no wine or strong drink naive. Anything unclean? According to Moses law note, the wife's name was never mentioned in. The scriptures always see of her is the woman, and now for the child, according to the plan of God, no razor shuttle, come up on his head for he shall be at Nazarene from the womb, and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines. So then that made some season also a type of Christ, which we're not gonna go into that the from the time she went untold. Her husband of the experience, that she saw this man of God, whose countenance was like an angel of God, very terrible. She said to her husband, I did not ask him his name, and he did not tell me his name having heard from the Lord that the child should be another right to God from the womb. To the time of his death brought fear up on Manoa. He entreated the law to send back the same angel to teach them what they should do to the child with such a requirement. You can understand if God said, and when a give you a child, in old age in the time of being barring old aids, and he's going to be another right? Another rain, and he should have no razor, should not eat drink wine or come close to anything dead in a dead carcasses on all these things that means there's something special about this child, and he would need extra cheer guidance and protection as he grew up. So drove fear into Manila, and he wanted that same angel of the Lord that spoke to his wife, untold her. She was going. To have the child. He want the angel to combat and to give him give them instruction how they're going to go about this, and so- Manala, intrigued the Lord to send the same angel that he should teach them. What were the requirements interesting to note that the same angel actually came back? Manella ask him is if he was the same one that spoke to his wife and the angel answered I am that is important, too, because when you see that word appear in the scriptures. Specially in the oldest meant I am it has significance. The angel of the Lord is not generally any angel in Alderney. See the angel of the Lord when there is an angel show up an angel shows up, then you know, could be any engine. But. When you see the angel of the Lord, shrink up in the Old Testament, it is an appearance generally of the pre in connett Christ the angel of the Lord and then as the angels user saying the same the reference, I am also tells you that is God himself. That's why the the, the fire season, the New Testament, they founded abominable when Christ stole them before Abraham was, I am because they understood that reference to I am was making him equal with God. Amen. Some more evidence appeared in the conversation as they both wanted to retain the angel for longer until they fully understood the awesome task of raising another right son. They wanted to dress, a kid are kill and prepare. An animal. For food an offer burnt offering. Well, the angel told them they could offer the sacrifice to the Lord, but he would not eat though. They retained him the angel eventually ascended into the flame of, of the outer and Manala thought there were going to die because they had seen God, however he was reminded by his wife that if the Lord was going to kill them. He would not have received their offering. And by the way, if we received your often in the Old Testament, you are safe, and we ought to learn something from that in the New Testament, and I'm sure one of these days, I'll do a podcast on that, receiving gut, receiving or offerings because oftentimes what we think God received our would have received. He chose not to accept it. But we can talk about that another time about the psalms and the key, the key, the key character in the conversation is something something is a guy that we really wanna talk about and said, don't tell Delilah be aware of the people, you'll let into the secret things that you'll either your uncover your secrets to be aware of the people that you let into the secret things of your heart are the things that God as posited in your heart, they can have negative impact another right vowel under the mosaic law would normally be set for a specific period of time. For example, it could be for thirty days. Doubled our for sixty days are triple for a hundred days on the other hand, and now. Oh, right. Vow could also be made by the parent, and it could be for a lifetime in this instance, it was made for some sun by the Lord. It was not the parents decision. They did not choose a time line of how long the travel be another right for it was God's determination denies should not shave. His head NAR drink, or eat anything from the vine, eat, nothing, unclean. And also never come close to a dead body. Even if it was a close relative, if for any reason, even by accident, the nozzle, right? Came close to a dead body. He would have to cut the hair he would have to go through a period of purification and consecration crook and bear the air and start. All over again. It was not a time to lock oneself away and do nothing. But the Naza right should be involved in active duty, as normal to any citizen except coming near to the dead. In other words, it was similar to that to what we know now as being sanctified set apart the word some defy means to be set apart for the service of the Lord. So the equivalence of being a nozzle. Right. Is somewhat similar to being sunk defied another. Right was set apart for special service, and they won in the Nukus mint in all time, who is some defied is also set apart that he may serve the Lord putting into the story short for the sake of time. It was God's will for. Some center deliver Israel from the hands of the Philistines, most of his early life was successful. He did a lot to destroy the listens. Eventually his wife under father got burned by the fullest in, but this time he had served for twenty years as a judge in Israel, eventually he fell in love with this woman that we know as Delilah and has the most prominent record our remembrance or reference in the life of Samson Delilah was not as I love not even the second. But as lives circumstances on his knife, culminates with her his life circumstances, brought him to her and is life culminates with her, he loved her, but she wanted. To use him as a pawn to enrich ourself again, be careful of the people that we handled with Bakir full of the people that we let into our circle bit careful of the people that we bring into our lives, and, and allow them easy access because it could be a source of the adversary, and they could be there to pull you down to destroy you to make you week to take away your strength, and eventually to have you suck them to the pressures of life and lose faith confidence and the relationship you have with the Lord, she's the only one name among the woman, he loved because our names mean her name means feeble, watch this. He who. Weakens. It means to oppress, and it also means to bring low and indeed, we see these work just as her name indicated in the life of Samson. She pushed him time, and again, to tell her where his strength lied. She oppressed him with the idea that if he really loved her. He would not continue to hide from her. We're his strength was she didn't have an interest in his strength, so that she can boast of house Trung her husband was, and so she can feel safe in the presence of her husband, because he was so strong. He was a nozzle. Right. He had divined contact with God. He, he was Trung that was not her motive or multi was that if she finds out where his strength lie. She could rip that away from him and have his enemies destroy him. And so she would enrich ourself again, as I said before she was using him as a pawn, what I'm saying to you today, my friends. Don't tell Delilah. In other words, beware of those or will, we, can you be aware of those will bring you feeble, beware of those, or will oppress, you beret of those who are bring you low cool. Rob, you of your spiritual strength. Beware beware of those are right beware of those. She showed her real colors time on, again has she pushed him to tell her. We re secret where the secret of his strength was, and he kinda you know, try to sidestep it and but he should have learned also he should have. Learned the lesson that if she keeps coming back keeps coming back and when he told her something that wasn't true. And when he saw what a reaction on our action was, he should have had is, is open and should be aware of the dangers, but because she continued to use the reference to love, he wanted to keep proving to her that he loved her, but he was too much in love to see the conspicuous evil demonstrated time. And again before is very is. Eventually, it came to pass when she pressed him daily the bible says with her words and urged him so that his soul was vexed unto death that he told her his heart and said unto her there, not come a razor upon Minehead for I have been a nozzle right unto God from my mother's womb if high be shaven here comes a secret unfolded. If I be shaven, then my strength will go from me, and I shall be weak and be like other men. She now knew she was now. Convinced amidst, all the other things that he had told her, she was now convinced that he had just poured out his heart to her. And she had no care. No sympathy. No love of his life. No honnor for God. All she wanted was money. She mmediately sent to call the lords of the Philistines, because she got what she wanted my friend, if I could emphasize over and over again. Don't tell Delilah where your strength lies, don't and again, don't keep your focus on the woman Delilah, but keep your focus on the character of the woman are the person Delilah because that means the one who weakens, the one who will bring you low. The one will rub you off your strength. The one who will deceive you don't trust people who will weaken you. Don't give your secret to those who will bring your bring you down. Don't tell the Lila, you don't have to be vulnerable to every and everybody every anybody. Choose carefully who you will tell the hidden secrets of your life, be careful of those who want to exploit you Samson let God down for the love of the Lila, he broke the secret. And she was delighted to put him to sleep and cut off his seven laps. Unlike other times when she when she when he woke up when she woke him up and said, the Philistines were up on new and he woke up on broke all that she had tied him up with this time. He knew that the Lord was departed from him. She weaken him. She made him feeble. She brought him low. She took away his strength. She allowed causing to break is nother right? Vow. And now he was on the Moos ING end. If we look at the character of the Lila, again, I want to remind you let's not keep focused on the woman who the, the seved Samson, but look on the character of the person, and this could be male or female, young or old, the character. If it's one that will bring your low, if it's one that will make you feeble if it's one that will take away your spiritual strength. If it's one that will call you the brakes, your communion with God, if it's one that will cause you to wonder away from God is one that will cause you to. To divert from the fellowship, you have the Lord than I am saying, don't tell Delilah don't hang out with the wrong person. Don't let them into your secrets. If we don't immediately dismiss some things, we ended up falling for it, some sun, did not dismiss the Lila's effort in finding out, where is Trent lies. There should not be this great pursuit of the strength and how his e so strong, she should just celebrate the mind that she was fortunate to have as a husband. But that's not what our motive was the longer you give in to a thought the more vulnerable, you will become the more, we allow ourselves to listen. To negative influence and digest and absorb it. And oftentimes react to it the more vulnerable we will become some things need to be addressed immediately something, we need to walk away from instantly somethings. We need not to allow the take wrote because if they take root, it'd be harder to get rid of them. They got him this time she told him finished in rope on him, he rose, like other time to break the chains on the feathers on Tina were tight that he was tired. He was tied with. This time is Trump was gone because God add left him. They got him. They gouged is is out did him all manner of evil use them to grind mid lake animals. However, the merciful, God will always restore those who have repented and that's where we find ourselves in a good position. Because while we are encouraged to be careful and not to allow ourselves to fall into certain traps. If for any reason doesn't that description says my friend, my little my children, sin, not. But it says yet if any man sin, we have an advocate with the father, Jesus Christ, who pleads our cause. And so, unfortunately, if one falls gone. God is always willing to lift you up and to restore you don't trust people who will weaken you. Don't give your secret to those who bring you down? Don't tell Delilah don't leave yourself vulnerable to the mercy off your adversary. We must dismiss some things right off the block because if we allow them to fester are too high around too long than we might lose away, as I said, they got him Gouges is out, did him all manner of evil use him like like a beast of burden. However, the merciful God would all will will always restore those who have repented Wiley grind. The meal is heart went back in retrospect, watt have high done. How did I allow myself to fall into this predicament, why have to so many times? Didn't I learn that Delilah meant mean? No good. How could I not? Discover this because he was blindly in love. And he was so taken up with being in love that he forget the secret that he had with God and the vow that he had. But now he was saying in the midst of this without his is with all this vision can't see where he was can tell who was next to him. But in his heart, he was crying God. I'm sorry. I let you down. But if you will restore my strength, I will avenge. My enemies. The good thing is that the enemies of Samson. There were also the enemies of God, the enemies of something. The Philistines were also the enemies of God and the reason in from the very first place. Why God had some sun, born to abandon woman and became a Naza. Right. Is because God had a plan for his life and a plan to use him as a weapon of destruction against the Philistines who were gods. Enemies, don't tell Delilah. But if you messed up, God will not leave you without mercy and grace, every repented heart, God will forgive everyone who seeks for restoration, God will restore choose carefully. Who you let your guard down with make sure they can be trusted mix. Sure. They have your best interest at heart, make sure they're looking out for you and not looking for an opportunity against you. Make sure they really truly and sincerely want to be a source of help and strength to you a not just trying to find out where your strength lies are what you are most vulnerable to. And then use that to exploit you, if you don't want to hear some things back, don't share it with some people. Look out for the Lila's who will bring your week. Remember Delilah is a character. It is not a fixed to woman. It can also be a man. It could be a situation that could be a circumstance hit could be a challenge in your life. Something that will weaken you something that will bring it on some they'll make you feeble guard yourself against every character off Delilah if he or she brings you down. It is Delilah on the thought today is don't tell Delilah if you have something to talk about tell it to Jesus tell it to him today, because he is able to lift you up to bring you out to guide you to keep you to strengthen you. And if you have been made week just remember this one thing. Strength is found in him. Many may have already suffered at the end of others, but there is hope for victory. Some gut is strength back and God helped him to have the final victory, you may be down today. But I trust God. You're not out. It is not over unto. God says it's over. You may have stumbled you may have struggled, you may have done the wrong, you may have opened up to the wrong people. You may have put yourself in a position that is wearing you down and is gradually feeding on your spiritual strength. But my prayer today is that you run to the Lord and find strength. Don't tell Delilah. Don't have it with around people. Don't tell the enemy. We're your strength is don't let the devil see your vulnerability. Take it to the Lord trust him. And he would bring you through. It is my per today as you listen to this thought in this spot cast. Don't leave yourself vulnerable to the adversary. Don't let in unscrupulous people. Into your life be careful, who you, choose us friends, and who you choose to handled with mega bless you may strengthen you may make you wise as a serpent than HAMAs other. Now, this is grace, without Varda's Bishop over veterans seen that same. Thanks for tuning into the spot gas. I hope you share it until somebody about it be blessed inspired van courage. And by the way, you can Email me up all our ministries at g mail dot com or be ministers gmaiLcom, I'd love to hear from you and may God bless your until next time. See soup. God bless you.

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VP 178 Steven Seagal Drinking Game

VelociPodcast

19:50 min | 1 year ago

VP 178 Steven Seagal Drinking Game

"VELOCE VELOCE VELOCE podcast podcast. Hey sexy actually friend. He's making me bitch. Maybe WanNa get a piece of that. Want to talk about sexy teams. I was getting a directions. It's a very creepy. I can guarantee that underwear theft will come up again. None of this relevant Po came him on. cokie balls seven hundred and fifty middle liter bottle of rum. Welcome to the pharmacy. podcast a study on Manala Jackie. This is your grumpy uncle. Peter he will say words at you two weeks ago on the loss of podcast. I talked about how the Microsoft experiments of the four day workweek would not expand into other industries as well because there were too many sort of bits of missing information I was talking about how they were talking primarily probably about programmers. How Four Day workweek might work better for them but it might not work in other industries? A lot of people sent me messages saying like you. Just don't want a four day WORKWEEK. You're kind of a jerk about it. the jerk part I accept but what I really wanted was a clear explanation of the elements of that experiment what they measured in how they measured the results us and how it can be projected onto other industries successfully. So that's where all my issues came from that. What they were doing was an experiment? It was very successful in their area in there with their criteria. People were saying because this was successful. It'd be successful elsewhere. But that is absolutely not how science or these sort of experiments work you would need an individualized experiment to replicate the results for almost every industry. Now I am very pro. Four Day workweek. I would love to have another day off. I think that'd be great but but that doesn't mean you blindly accept stuff because that's how you get people walking row saying I hate the word moist. This is maybe something I did. A few years ago. WOAH loss podcast. But there was a study in it said people find the word moist disgusting and then every now and then I would meet someone. He'd say same voiced or something like that and they'd I hate that word and that's actually not true. You don't hate that word. Because the actual experiment was was the word moist coupled with something becomes the most disgusting word in the English language but coupled with other words it was not so when they said moist wound. People really grossed out when they said moist cake no one minded at all so it wasn't the word moist. It was the in addition of moist. Something else that made it stronger. So the wound felt grocer because of the word moist but the cake actually felt more delicious because of the additional word moist now that's a bit of a simplification but I've actually run across actual human beings who said they hate the word moist in my head. I'm like that's not true. You read the title of an article and extrapolated as being the truth and now actually believe it where people are saying Microsoft. Read a four day workweek and it was really successful Ed productivity when forty percent that therefore must be true across the board. And that's just not how that works so I am not against a four-day workweek fact. I think I would be very pro for the work week but I just don't want ever want to go around believing things that are. Not True. Skepticism has value then. I read another study this week and implied very heavily. People who play games such as Card Games and board games were more likely to stay mentally sharp in later life now. The study was primarily based those who played Non Digital Games and they scored better on memory and thinking tests when they were in their seventies. And I have a lot of issues with this because this implies if you play card and board games in the long term you'll actually have better memory. Video Games are a relatively new invention compared to cardboard game. So if you're testing people in their seventy I would actually bet people in their seventies. Now don't play very many video games. My parents are in their seventies and eighties. They have never replayed a video game in any real way so the control group I believe is probably very small and that is a major flaw is what you need is a control. All group who from birth play basically nothing but digital gauge and a control group that plays nothing but board and card games and do very boring for those people. I'm sorry science sometimes require sacrifice vice and then when they get to their seventies do some sort of memory test and you can get a better result but it seems like the pool of people they'd be pulling from now primarily. Most of them would not have played video games in any real way. I know older people do. I'm a little older myself and I play video games but I grew up with so people older than me. He actually a lot of them have never touched video game in any real way now. Does that mean that the result is not correct. No but it also means you should have a healthy dose of skepticism schism when reading about this board Games and card games Equate to better memory long term. I don't think that's actually been proven out by this. Because the very nature sure of digital games as they're changing rapidly right now so when you get an established format long-term from birth to seventy years old then you can test memory and then you can get more accurate results. This is the kind of thing that I try to be very aware of when I read. Studies is where are the flaws flaws in the Internet article about the study. Often I try to go find the study but I mean to be honest. A lot of them are very labor intensive to read The very dry very boring so they're not a lot of fun So I'll read kind of bits of them and try to find out like what their control was. Did they have control rebecca stuff. I I did not read the Microsoft study. To be honest I did go back and find the actual source for the word moist and I just looked at the criteria For the Card Game Board Game Study and realized that there were some significant flaws. If you're only testing people in their seventies now the ideas that later in life is what you WanNa test will. That's great but that means people later in life in their seventies now again there were certain factors that led them to play more card and board games and that doesn't mean it improved or diminish the memory. Maybe those same people. If they'd played video games their whole life actually have way better memory. Maybe it would be terrible. Maybe you'll be trashed rushed. I don't know but neither do they. Because it was never studied Cora question why does Canada rarely appear in the news in America. Is Anything bad happened in Canada There's a couple of pretty lame jokes. I came up with right away after reading this the first answers. No nothing bad happens to Canada but then I think the real answer. Is You have to actually care about something to notice it in. Americans don't care about Canada's country so they don't report on. This bias is not not unique so living in Japan. I watch a lot of Japanese news and they only report on international events. If there is a Japanese person involves let's say there's a disaster another our country most of the time it will get zero coverage but if there are two Japanese people maybe like they were tourists or something who were involved in this disaster then it will get some coverage and that's one of the things you need to realize about news the people writing or creating the news only right or create news that they Caribou so if they're American probably only care about America primarily. They might look to Canada if there's something that relates to America or if it's something that they could make funnel but still at the end of the day news sources are actually self interested just like everything else in the world which is why you can't trust the news so I created a Steven Seagal drinking game. This'll be available to you What I post this episode you can go to Veloce Peter Dot Com and there will be a link to a google document and in that Google document will be the rules for the Steven Seagal? Drinking game I'm going to explain it to you. Now see if you can remember all this go ahead but it's actually all been typed up for you. You don't have to worry about this. In my opinion works best with movies that were produced post two thousand five because that is when the quality quality of his film reduced greatly and he became the producer of almost every film he made. Now you have to call out when any of these things happen and the person who doesn't call it out they have to drink. The drink is up to you. You do shots beer. You can do shots of liquor. I think shots of something hard. Probably people will die but these are the things you have to look for and then call outs for one. Drink the wondering penalty you Steven Seagal named comes up on the screen. Such as writer producer. Director Rector Star gaffer. Whatever you have to call it out and if someone doesn't call it out quick enough they have to drink? If within the movie in his dialogue he talked about honor. Someone has to drink uses Japanese. Now Steven Seagal Japanese is very very good is basically perfect he. He lived in Japan for many years. He ran his own AIKIDO. Joe But that means every now and then in a film he likes to show off a bit in he does sort of adopt some some really crap philosophy stuff so if he speaks Japanese talked about honor call it out. Someone doesn't call it out. They gotTA drink. If Steven seagal wears yellow tinted shooting glasses or he wears dark sunglasses indoors. Call it out. Someone doesn't have to drink if he's wearing body armor to hide. Hide his fat if he wears a long coat to hide his fat if he sits with his arms across his front to try to hide his fat. Call that out. Someone doesn't they have to drink if a new the scene starts in the film Steven Seagal has already seated so he doesn't have to walk across the set. Call it out. Someone else has to drink. If before Steven Seagal all fights he puts his hands up like he's holding two tiny teacups. Call it out. Someone doesn't call they have drink wondering if he flips a man out of the way with seemingly no effort or he does several slaps which incapacitates him in call it out. Someone was calling wondering if his opponent falls into an object and object check breaks. Call it out so it doesn't call it out. They have to drink now. We get into the big ones. This is the to drink penalty when you realize that Steven Seagal is not the main character of the movie. If you call it out I everyone else has to have two drinks. If he has a ponytail in the film and you see see it you have to call it out. This is multiple times so essentially every time you see his ponytail. You call it out if someone doesn't call it out. Take two drinks if he does some clearly made up spiritual ritual garbage. Call it out. If he forms a relationship with a woman who's clearly would never be attracted to him in real life. Call it out if someone doesn't call it out. They have to take two drinks. But this is the big one. If Steven Seagal actually walks into frame you have to call it out. If someone doesn't call it out they they have to take two drinks because that is the opposite of the scene starting and him already being seated now you have to have something like a full beer something to chug. So this is. This is an extra one when Steven Seagal mumble something you can challenge another player to repeat what he said if they cannot they have to Chug the drink of your choice if they can you have to Chug the drink of their choice. There is a bonus room. Someone misses Accu- above completely. You can challenge them to listen to the whole soul girl. It's all right. If they take three shots they can stop. So those. Are the rules for the Steven. SEAGAL drinking game. Please be safe when drinking a don't drink and drive unless it's only digital and go get yourself a Steven Seagal all movie and have a really good night. So two weeks ago I was talking about Steven Seagal not to glowing terms that has sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole but as I was going down down down deep in the depths of Steven Seagal I remembered something that clearly my brain had blocked out then. I didn't want to remember now. was that Steven. Seagal made an album like most actors. He has aspirations to do everything Despite the fact he doesn't even have talent as an actor he certainly certainly only had fighting skills for a little while. He has zero talent as a singer but by that time he had enough money he could pay professionals to try to make himself better. which is the unfortunate reality of people? Having money is you can hire people with actual talent to waste their time. Fulfilling your desires makes communism look really good so that song at least the most famous song I guess you could call it that. Maybe it was the one it was released off the album. I don't know it is actually full out. I've only heard this one song is called girl. It's all right and I wonder primarily early from the lyrics of the song. What is all right? Steven doesn't really singing the song so much as long talk so he saying the lyrics and he's saying in sort of a thing soggy way but of course he has no rain so he's just sort of whisper singing the lyrics I how will any has professionals in the background do sound like they can sync properly to make it sound like more is going on than it is but the first thing I want you to notice the hip hop scratch that seems to taking the place of a regular beat and maybe this was cool. ooh So you have someone with actual mixing ability. Maybe real talent who can scratch records and he's being forced to do this over and over again. 'cause I know in reality. What happened is what they do once they just did the scratch once and then he just looped it but my images in a live performance? I don't know if this was is ever perform live. I don't know if he ever got that far. I imagined Steven Seagal set up his own concert. Maybe even a small tour That no one showed up to then he realized maybe this wasn't the best idea. Someone live and again realistically is probably prerecorded is what they played music. Wise while he was live in concert. But if you we're a puritan you would have had an actual dj up there doing this regularly for the whole three minute missile and that has to be one of the saddest existences. I can think of if you go back to one of the earliest episodes of philosophy podcasts. I actually took sometimes talked about professional musicians. Having to do music for English. Lose textbooks so they had to write and sing songs about like present progressive and stuff. This is on par with them. Being in the band for Steven Seagal has to be a very painful way to make a living because you had dreams about being famous US dreams about being good and you probably are good so your professional musician. You've been hired by Steven Seagal and you're not rich enough to say no. Oh that's pretty much. Everyone is video. I assume that's what happened to them. They're good but they're not so good that they've broken out so they have to actually accept money in this Ab- dirty money coming. Nobody Steven Seagal so then. We have to get to Sort of analysis of the lyrics in the only problem is that to be. The lyrics are connected with the video. In the video Steven Eva's ago seems to be mooching on disturbingly young woman significantly younger than himself. It appropriately so I've noticed in a couple all of his films when he got into his fifties the heroin or the love interest was also inappropriately young. Who would be disgusted by Steven? seagal coming onto. That's not so much about age as it is. He's gross so let's just be clear about so what he says girl. It's all right by me Eh. It's never clarifies. What is all right by him? I did like that. It's it's all girl it's all right it is suddenly becomes. It's all right by me so in the song he's actually saying it's about him he's accepting it whereas the title of the song makes it seemed like it's about the girl but either way the it's all right part. I found a little disturbing coupled with the imagery of video. Because if it's all right in it's what I think it is. It's it's not all right. It's not right for him to be doing this or encouraging her to do it. That's what he's doing then we get into a very unique piece of lyricism. So we're GONNA play that right now. So what he has just said is that if he dies he will come back and haunt her or his Zombie. Corpse will come back. And that's supposed supposed to be somehow romance and I guess to Steven seagal being an obsessive stalker is kind of romantic. Because I could see that being true now you go on Youtube and listen to the whole song three minutes and some but I would not recommend it. You've probably gotten the main part of it from this little summary here and if I was going to do review it's awful. I mean the music itself is we can uninspired Doug professionals I mean. It sounds like it's done. Well is just no one cared about what they were doing. I am actually in my head. Betting that Steven Seagal did write these lyrics but then I wonder if he's smart enough to it down lyrics well enough to match song so I'm betting he sort of half wrote the lyrics because I did find all the lyrics were very complimentary about him and no one else which does seem very a steven seagal ish but if I can make a recommendation if you have the opportunity to not hear the song girl it's alright by Steven Seagal. I would one hundred percent. Endorse you taking that opportunity to miss listening to that. saw the loss of Philosophy loss of loss of podcast. The loss of podcast was walk. Hey sexy friend is making me bitch. Thank you for listening. If you have questions or comments you can tweet at velocity Peter or Email Velusic podcast g mail dot com. You you can find the podcast on Itunes stitcher at cost or go to velizy Peter dot com slash podcast. Like he's holding two tiny KI T.

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Best of 2020 Day 3

Ace and TJ

57:51 min | 4 months ago

Best of 2020 Day 3

"If you thought you saw the last of the double cheeseburger pizza from papa. John's think again. Because it's back again and now they're viewing. The sequel has a papa dea a quarter pound feet says burger sauce and pickles. Crispy inquest again. One more time to get a large double cheeseburger pizza for just twelve bucks or a new double cheeseburger papa for six better ingredients. Better pizza papa. John's again not valid with discounts bees in texas. Extra prices may vary radio. My name's tj aka t.j. Easy and i have a friend very very close friend. Probably the person that i admire more than anybody else in this world and he and his family recently took a trip to florida. They were on a road trip to florida for vacation on the beach. It was My friend and his lovely wife and Two teenage children and The teenage daughters teenage boyfriend in florida. So we who was a friend of mine. Went to florida with olive. His family right now in florida to go to this particular beach area that they go. You have to go through. These big toll lines is probably I'd say five lanes on each side of the highway going in and out toll now when my friend got close to the toll lane his wife got money out to pay the toll and said here just paid for the car behind us to. We'll be generous. And he said well kinda tongue-in-cheek but still not completely tongue in cheek. Well i don't know if i'm gonna do that. It depends on what the car is behind us and what they look like. I mean you know if they if they look like they're mean or they have a message on their vehicle. It says i kill people. Whatever i mean i don't i'm not just going to blindly commit to paying the toll or he said i'm just not going to blindly commit to paying the toll for the car behind me when i don't even know what they're all about so she started giving him this. You know about being kind. And jesus and all of this though so he said okay so as joke he said well i mean. I'm not paying for a car like Subaru that pulls in behind him. He's not. I'm not gonna pay for that. Because he's a conservative and he knows or he believes his crazy beliefs that everybody who drives a subaru is liberal curse. Oh sure enough. He pulls picks the lane that he's gonna go through and looks in his rear view mirror. And what pulls in behind him a subaru with surfboards. On top of strapped up there on the luggage rack so he said look. I told you. Now i'm gonna show that i am the bigger person that i am hearts in the right place and he said i'm going to pay for them. It was four dollars. Gets up there. The nice lady tells them that it's four dollars and he says okay. Well i'm going to go ahead and pay for the car behind me too. And she goes. Oh okay because things like that happen a lot and she said. Would you like me to tell the person anything. And i said yes. I sure would tell them that. Their toll has been taken care of and trump loves them. What did she say when adds three action when your friend says this to the lady working the toll booth. What does the tollbooth operator respond with. That she says trump loves them and he said yes. Yes ma'am she said. okay then. Of course he pulled away. They had to stop to do their business or they were surprised. Hey what somebody paint. That is so nice so he you know now is having to hear the stuff from his wife at. That wasn't the right thing to do. You didn't do it in good faith or know. Your heart wasn't in the right way. What i'm trying to think if it were me and somebody paid the my toll as i go through. And they said Biden loves you. Say okay we're good. Thank you for for that. Yeah so i would say the person didn't do anything wrong but then again look. Our sides don't usually react the same way to things you know so he was just wondering if the fact that he said Trump loves you if that negated the goodwill gesture to begin with a paying the person's toll. I say no i don't i don't think it negates it. Yeah but if If if he were to walk up to a person and say here's four dollars. Take this four dollars. Trump loves you and they're anti trump person they wouldn't take true and the reverse would be true as well probably right. Oh take okay you. What would your friend it. Yeah if somebody just walked up handing me cash and said biden loves you. I would say thank you appreciate that. But biden doesn't love anybody that would probably say walked off. Yeah i mean not necessarily but doesn't negate the kind gesture. Was the four dollars worth story. Yeah i think so and the laughed. Because i think that's really clever what he did. Yeah for four dollars. If only your friend was on the radio he could probably write it off his taxes. Yeah yeah that were the case. His wife is probably ruin your whole day. You know how they are probably got upset now. They they're trying to go surfing and they probably won't be able to get that out of all day. There'd be fuming. Your friend's wife has an interesting voice. weird to do that for sure idea. Yeah did your point that out. I did he tell his wife. Hey it was your idea. And i just told her he just told her. This is the tj show. My favorite show is your small to mid sized business ready for the inevitable rebound voice. Hunter dot com specializes in providing top level voice talent for all your video marketing e-learning and advertising needs. There's no better time than right now. To focus on increasing your customer base and corporate internal audio needs boy center dot com is voiceover service with the world's best voice actors and actresses call voice center dot com at seven zero four six four eight ninety eight hundred or visit us on the web at voice dot com. Tj's year in review march. We have a co worker. Her name is devon and riggins was talking to devon the other day devon told him a story about what's going on in her life with her Her boyfriend is that right. Yeah i don't know any of the details of this story. We just know that. Reagan said it was Was shocking and fun and interesting and amazing and so forth and so on so we say well. Then that's put that on the radio so riggins since you're the one in the know you Lead devon into her story. Okay so i've worked with devon a couple times. She's real funny real down to earth. Howdy twenty tail. She's twenty two. She lives a twenty two year olds. Lifelike going out staying out late parties like you know super hard and she just does. What an average twenty two year old but a few weeks ago. I walked down to one side. The building and there's like eight people gathered around computer. And i'm like what are they looking at and she goes riggins come over here and she explains this story about somebody. She's interested in dating and let you kind of start from there. What what why where. People gathered around the computer So i met this gentleman and he's used to live here he just recently moved out to la. They are all gathered around the computer because we were looking up some of his charges he had and we are interested in seeing what was going on charges to what was going on in his life and whether or not he was going to jail going card on a whether going to prison. The tutoring thing is he coming back to charlotte. Is he staying in. La like because. Here's my question. When you met him he did not have these two. He acquired these charges. Wear here are in la here okay. So has he fled the state. Now okay can. He return to the state without going to jail. Yes okay now right. So what is yes yes now. So what is the situation. So yeah we're looking at finding out his charges and then why wasn't more so interested in it. But i did mention something and everyone else was more so interested in it and we just started looking it up and he. He had some drug charges which is a too bad you know. They were looking at at his mugshot and was like you need to figure out another guy to hook up with at night. Live your life like everybody's got a paso. Yeah exactly everybody's got a past. Everybody makes mistakes co for drugs. Possession or distribution both you possession into one you can have without the other the other much all right so are you are you. Are you seeing him so to speak. Are you know y'all dating or what is this. We've just been talking. Yeah and so. You want to build a relationship with him if he's not going to be in prison or do you want to build a relationship with him even though he's gonna be in did say i would be his number one pen pal if things got to that. Okay okay if these get to that point. And he goes to jail for possession with intent to distribute. It would be here. Okay it would be here okay. So is that a okay. I guess does that mean you would. If he goes away for three years. Do you are two years. Do you think you would wait. And not date. Someone else and just correspond with him waiting on him to get out of jail where lie. Hey have you ever seen the show love after lockup. It's on the cable network. It's got love after lockup and it's about People who fall in love with people who are incarcerated and then when they get out of jail the life they build together. You should go up for the next week. You should go look it up on the on the line and watch they have all the the past episodes. You can stream everything and And see what that life would rely. It may be something that you would love to go to the jail and visit him and talk to him on the phone and get get engaged over. You know in between the glass and things like that is he. Sorry that he was Dealing is he sorry he got caught. Dealing is two different things i feel like he doesn't care i mean i don't know i feel like the situation that happened in wasn't his fault and nine and you're still dating drug dealer but it anymore right trouble the devin. Why why would you want to date. Why would you hold out to date this guy if you haven't already been in love and you don't have history with them and now there are so many guys out there who aren't facing Drug distribution and possession charges and everything. What is it so special about him. That makes you think that you wanna go through all of that to date him to be with him. He talks to me and other boys. Don't like we actually have like conversation. I don't know it's different because you have to find a guy that actual talk to you. This is the ace and tj. Show acing tj's year in march. We have A friend in her name is devon. She's twenty two twenty two and There is a guy she's very interested who Has been accused of in. Charge is facing charges of Drug distribution and possession. He is from where she lives in charlotte north carolina. But he is now living in la. But we'll come back to charlotte north carolina to face the charges and all of that and And so she was just talking about where all of the people's thoughts are coming down on this for her and what she should do ask you should handle it and then that sort of thing so how much of a relationship together already have devon. I mean. Have you dated. Are you in love. Have you spent time together. Where is the relationship right. Now from the past We spend time together. He was he when i met him. It was on his birthday Probably early december early december and We hung out for a lot while he was here. And then we've talked every day since he's left and he's been gone for about three weeks so people have had questioned is he. Why is he gone because he owns a company in its based off out in la a so. That answer is one of the questions was does. He have a stable job. Besides slinging drugs doesn't even slang the drug not. Listen listen he has not been proven guilty of slaying and drugs right at all. These are just charges. He's facing accusations. He hasn't he hasn't had his day in court. Okay fair point. I'm sorry one more question my head it was it was pretty good Do you worry if you choose to be around him that you could get caught up in some type of criminal activity. No okay so you should throw that out there as your I don't know maybe grandpa figures. Yeah you should always be worried about that if you know somebody is accused of or there's a chance they participate in that activity But the only thing is if you just take it down to starting a relationship are continuing to grow our relationship with somebody that is automatically coming in with baggage you know. It makes it more difficult. Now he may go to court and be found innocent. Not guilty free to go. Whatever and the. I'll be happy. Go lucky together but if you really like him. I think you have to wait at least until that. that happens. when does he go to court. I believe in like two weeks. We'll come back home. So maybe maybe there won't be anything and then you just go on about your business with him but if he does get sentenced to do time that's when you really have to stop and go okay now. Is this worth it to have to start a relationship from behind the the start line. You know where you're having to work your way. Pass something in the very beginning rather than be together for a while and then experience a problem and have to deal with no and you're gonna go hang around the jail and everything on on visiting time just you walking up there and ringing the little bail team boyfriend. Whatever of have said this when i Dm said what type of drugs. And i responded. We'd later responded. Oh she's on. This is the ace and tj show. Ace and tj's year in review march. We've been talking to one of our co workers named devon who's twenty two and has had the beginnings of a great relationship with the guy. And he he is facing charges of possession and distribution of narcotics. I'm drugs whatever And just wondering how. That's going to go where it's going to go from here in this any other again. He's been accused. He hasn't been proven To have committed the crime he hasn't been found guilty And devonish wanna read you this one message that we got from a guy who messages us all the time and he's really He has his stuff together and He opened up in this message to you. I was once one of those persons that went way. Went away for dealing drugs for years and she shouldn't mess with this guy if a person that knows he stands a good chance of being locked up. We'll hold on to a person that can send him money and so on. They will tell you anything you want to hear. The conversation is good. Because it's a way of figuring you out. Even though i've turned my life around and from twenty years ago and i'm a family man now. The game remains the same. He may not be that person but just be careful. And don't get suckered in and i think that's that's pretty much what should be said right now at this point because he hasn't gone to court yet he hasn't been proven and sentenced and all of that. And if you go watch after laka. I mean love after lock-up Not only is it educational. it's also Very funny but it will show you what what all of that is about trying to build a life with someone at that has been incarcerated You you probably would never be on the show because you teeth a pretty. They don't they. Don't teach or usually do that with everything. But what are you going to do after sitting here today. What do you think is going to happen with the two of you. i think. Probably we're just gonna talk for a little bit more and then it's gonna eventually fall off so i'm not lying expecting anything out of it but like you know optimistic when he comes back next week to faces charges. Are you looking for to him. Yes okay and Your mom didn't know about this whole thing until you told her to listen to the radio today right until right now. She's been texting. You're okay well that'll be fun. Waiting have a great rest of the day. Then david because. I think you'll be talking about it for the rest of the day teaching jason. Tj's year in review february every day. We have revealed a little bit more about the mystery proposal and played clips from the mystery proposal. Talking about this woman. He is madly and wildly in love with and if is listening right now if she hears the clips and she calls us at one. Triple eight four one to two twenty three hundred five with one. Triple eight forty one as tj. And says i think that's my boyfriend. We will tell her if he is indeed. The mystery celebrity mystery proposal. We learned yesterday if you missed it that there is an age difference between the two of them. We learned that they live together because he said he loves waking up next to her every morning and we learned that the thing. He's looking forward to most going forward in life with her is traveling and even getting to know each other better as they grow old together and when we discussed an age difference we learn that he is the older of the two. Yeah and he did say one thing. He doesn't like about her that he's hoping we'll change when they get married his The the fact that she smells like she's smuggling onions her armpits. There is that he's got mail. Iran picks all the time. I missed that part of all our news. Manala so we're going to do a little bit of a recap so you can hear in case you think this might be your significant other mainly because we only have one more new clip to play. Because we didn't distribute these Properly we've got excited yesterday. So here's the new one for today. This is mystery. Proposer telling us the question. When did you know that you are falling in love with her new. After the first two more to three months she no he's always again. When did you know you were falling in love with her. After the first two more three months but She no he's always learn so you would With some women here that and go. That wasn't really a good answer. Said it took him a few months. Because you kind of lied to I think i. I think i could feel it right away but i was afraid of my feelings because it happened so fast but i guess it was about a few months before. I actually got the courage up to tell her that i loved her. That would've been a much better answer because the truth is not always the best answer is not always the best dancer took him. Remember this from the first day in case you missed it. He talked about the favorite thing that she does. His favorite thing that she does probably makes me laugh. You just very outgoing. You of doesn't really care what she does. What she doesn't look also locked away. Shaima back trigon it without leaving them red streaks almost an and again this from yesterday what is the one thing that you want her to know from your heart that and so it's like four every morning when i wake up. Solder and throughout the day is be joy and happiness and and comfort knowing them. Come to see that part is a little as like. I've been very much in the camp that it is not as didn't get as vibes at all that particular clip giving me as fights so distill. Everybody knows the only two people that know. The identity of the mystery celebrity are me and tachira mystery proposer. You keep calling into celebrity. Also which makes me a little history. Colonised is Is that a freudian slip. Yeah so if you think that. Is your boyfriend your significant other one. Triple eight four one to twenty three eighty five one triple eight forty one as tj. Now we are not going to answer these through debbie. Yesterday somebody to people send us message yesterday to women. one of them said like larry. We're not answering that. We're just not more of the show coming up ason. Tj's year in review february. Hey brandy welcome to the ace and tj show. You believe the mystery proposer could be your significant other walking. Okay and what is his name. Just first-name-only brandy on a scale of one to ten. How confident are you did. This is your your your boyfriend. I want to say about an eight. It's pretty up there brandy your boyfriend. That's great brain. Thanks for playing. I do then what do you want. You gave me the job to tell them to say yes new job. Please let me be high. No because at that you're gonna let me have some fun with it next up is elizabeth. Hi elizabeth welcome to the and tj show. You believe this you believe. This is your significant other. Is that correct. Walk okay. Good question to ask a minute ago. Scale of one to ten. How confident are you. You're oh you're at ten you. You are positive this is your guy. The onion thing took it up. Oh what tj said earlier the onion thing. yeah. I just. I was just kidding me. I was just kidding. Made that part. I think that wasn't part of the proposer got thing. I was just being goofy guy. Well that's what makes me very competent. Okay okay. I have some news for you now. You might want to sit down for this. Okay it's not your boyfriend. 'cause anti-nato you told robin room and he shared the name with us. It's not it's not. We know we know the name of the lady who in she calls so well. Yeah sorry lives with but thank you for playing. A good day is really pulling for her while. Another one bites the dust. How do you feel right now. You feel tj joke. You threw out there. I tell you feel is confused. I don't know what is definitely was. She's saying that are armpit. Smell like onions house. That's what makes her confident that that's her boyfriend. We're not real. Sure as he talks about that all the time. Yeah bad day remember. This is from yesterday. Talked about what. He's listening to most about the future with her traveling. They're getting no children more and what would happen without her. Believe them get old and gray. Quick keeps me young. I'll be lost if you think. That is your significant other. You can call us one. Triple eight four one to twenty three eighty five. It's one triple eight forty one as tj. You believe he is mystery proposer Tell rob does not laughing. So vanessa who send us a message. A brian polish tweeted. This cannot be real. i am cringing. Say that you know what never mind. Bless heart who did this one though and a a lot of people who just keep insisting that it's ace and this lady says she knows because the way he keeps calling himself celebrity accidentally calling himself a celebrity. We all know he thinks of himself like that. He said mystery celebrity. But i think if that was the case he would. Have you had the freudian slip and said mystery playboy next. Tj's year in review february. What are we calling this. This time mystery proposer or anonymous. Proposer mystery mystery proposer We've been we've been carrying that out all week Playing a voice. The is altered talking about his girlfriend and then his girlfriend was supposed to. I guess some. 'cause it i think that's my little boy fran trying to propose and then nobody guests that number. Nobody was right on that throughout the week. Pace is in a birdcage somewhere is there. Are those birds in the background. Yeah yes i'm standing outside. Okay what are we doing. So we know a couple of things about mystery proposer. We learned this week that he is older that her and we learned that they live together and we learned that. He's most exciting about excited about traveling with her. And so forth and so on so Everybody has been trying to figure out who mystery proposer it and some people think that it might be me because i am older much older than my girlfriend and i like travelling and i forgot what the other thing was that i just said. Shackled shacked up checked up. Yeah thank you. So we're as you put it out so there's that and so A lot of people think that it would be that it would be me being a mystery proposal so We're going to do the. We're going to go surprise the person who is going to be proposed to so i'm Outside of building a business right now waiting to go in and surprise the the person. Okay so Regan's are you the only one on the show that thinks it's me. I do not think it's you talked to did think it was me. No okay oh you do okay okay. Well I am sorry to disappoint you fast. It's not me the building. I'm coming up. I'll be right there. Hold onto dang it. Yeah a new. Even he wouldn't do something cheesy no. I'm leaving just did he hang up. Yeah he's there right outside this building. Mind blown my faces. Red to really fooled there. Because he's best are crying. Yeah i was outside of the cold for dramatic effect worked acting to more. Act's next tj's year. In review february things have gotten a little haywire. when it comes to the mystery proposer. Here was the plan. The plan was this morning after revealing that. It's because everybody was just kind of an accident that everybody started thinking it was me after revealing. It was not me we were going to go live and we were going to call ian girlfriend and tell her. Hey we know you've heard about the mystery proposer this week on the as the tj show. We know you've heard it more than once you to have talked about it. Go open your front door. And when she opened her front door ian would be standing there and he would have the ring and the whole thing and he would profess his love and ask her to marry him But what happened last night. Wh what time did this start. Well probably about eight o'clock or so He started started asking me about it. Because you know. I i really think that she i think it is. It's not not at all. So i played it off for an hour so Trying to get it's like it was you and Hell it was always talk. And she can't really be grill like i don't wanna do this that's you. I never do this. So i'm just sitting there. I'm i'm scratching my head. Wonder what the heck i'm gonna do and I decided well much. If you don't want this i'm the guy and It whatever starting church backed up. He told me this morning. He said i had to break. He said for an hour and a half all she did was was pepper him with questions. About said it's you and he was not he would try to diverted go watch. Tv for an hour and a half and finally the only way. I'm going to get this to go away is to admit that it's me. So did she get mad because you should know that she wouldn't want something like this. Yes and no better but you don roller dice older than her chance. Probably just mind right though It was it was called. It was like i don't wanna do this I'm just start ready. Da by and and As she luckily she called it she didn't even want to like she's saying not ready for to be on the radio or not ready to get married married. Nba on the radio. We're not trying to get married to borrow you. Know it's one of those deals so thankfully she called One of my buddies that she works for and And and told him that she wasn't coming in this morning and he put her on the phone with his fiancee. And this is a girl she's she's about she's got cancer. Here's christiane has skinny lobby. Yes do you wanna be with him. Yes so what's your problem and Vinci kinda came up proposed to be or not. I told her get out of here. How serious this typical she just. She just over. Thanks thanks but that ended tonight. everything's good. She's taking pitcher to the reagan center bodies and and And all that gets not not the norm so you two are now engaged. Yes around the way. E at what time was it when you finally put it all to rest so to speak and decided you were going to be engaged. What time. I probably eleven thirty. Because i was typing you novel at eleven telling us how much of the os i m. And and i've i literally i was about to pages. I ll started at eight. It was three and a half hours them going around and around about this. I an hour and a half of just you're the guy and then he finally admitted in two hours of we're not even in a relationship. I'm not ready. i can't take it you know. I'm not ready for that. And so after eleven pm finally they settled on. They are now officially engaged. So here's some notes just to kind of take it through the week. They've been dating for five years ins thirty nine. She's twenty five so that's their age twenty nine. She's twenty nine. I'm sorry yeah ten years. I'm sorry i wrote or i can't writing did right down tornado. So there's a ten year age gap between the two of them and in. Can i tell when you're planning to do it. Originally okay. Originally they are going to london in april and his original was originally was going to propose when he was in london but decided. This sounds cool. I'll just do this. Even though he kind knew she probably didn't feel like this was the way shoot. Well i never. I never went gotcha dart. If i win this would win this contest. Congratulations ian and christiana are the couple and ian. Will you send us a picture of the two of you In her with the rings and we posted our social media to show everybody. I get to you okay. Sounds good did you take one last night. No last night was Were in the mood pitchers game not in the mood to take nature's after you're also we had other things. Okay one question. Did you officially get engaged. Did you get down on one knee and proposed. Or did she come in. You said she kind of proposed to you. How did that. He came up with me. I was. I was sitting outside and came up to me and he goes. Will you be will be the will you marry me and i was like get out of here and And then i got the ring and and gave it george. We'll go well. Congratulations that's wonderful. We're we're happy for the two of you and glad it all worked out. Finally these tj as tj's year in review september replay. A beat the buzzer. So you call one triple eight four one to two thousand three hundred five one triple eight. Forty one ace. Tj and you have a story that you wanna share. You think it'd be great to share on. The radio could be fun. Could be exciting. Could be scary. Could be anything where you think. It's a good radio story. We are going to spend the wheel. Come up with a certain amount of time. And that's the amount of time that you have the tail. The story of the difference is the checks is. You don't know how much time you have. So riggins you're going to spend which spin in our. I can't yet. We have megan on the hagen. Welcome to the and tj. Show has no ungrateful. Ribs is going to spin the wheel. And we're going to have an amount of time that comes up that you are going to have to share your store with but you will not know that amount of time so he sent so excited. Megan i love. I am so excited nine seconds. Oh riggins you don't tell her the amount of time. She a long time. Since i was probably said our time. Megan can you hear regan's talking. Is he coming down the phone. Say hey meghan okay. I'm an idiot on eleven minutes. You got eleven minutes to tell you. Okay i didn't just we have a secret amount of time on the wheel We hope you will do your best to share your story. you'll know because the buzzer will go off. We would hang up on you. okay here. Megan begin telling your story. Okay so i was in the second third grade i was in loved one I was getting my milk And then i was going to for playing beat the buzzer. You really hang up owner us. See if alexis casino t shirt out to her what you. Why don't you tell me that before. I just assumed the you know you being a decent person as you might is that we'd be on the same wavelength there with with the decency but obviously i was wrong and so was meghan microphone. Tell the number the amount of time. And then i said hang. Hang up on you and it's done seriously going to hang up. If meghan meghan callback we'll send you a teacher. Mr no acis blood on your get a blood. Libel hey. I'm sorry mega mega shirt. It's bad my bad. I was so wrapped up and trying to play by the rules of the game as we've set forth before i don't even know. Do we have t shirts. yeah alexis. Hey it's begged somebody hung up that that jerk t-shirt please call back meghan. Okay so Next week go to jeanne in johnston county north carolina. Welcome to the asian. tj show gene. How old are you. I'm twenty six years old. Okay so gene's got a story riggins is going to spin the wheel. We're going to come up with an amount of time but gene. We are not going to tell you the amount of time that you will have to share your story okay. James began sharing your story. Now man a friend you know we were In fact carter healing for us and we were taking the scooters and next thing you know we've got down to hugh i didn't know where to break. Was that so moves to say stop. I had to put my legs stories over me. He had seventeen seconds to tell your story. I feel i feel like we may need to coach them a little bit. Because you know it was. I don't wanna sound like You know this would be sexist or anything. But i figured with megan it would be a little bit more difficult. Because women's storytelling techniques. Go into more detail of you know. I was going through the line and i was getting milk and i was doing this times. Guys will just get right to a plume. I was going through the line at the cafeteria. Pima pant yeah you know hang on gene gene. Blew that theory. The word stokes and i was going to be a good story. He was riding on some razor scooters. I've four oaks and trinity baptist and needless to say good news. Meghan called back okay. Wait is this megan now. Okay so meghan. Rob got hooked up. Really t-shirt right okay. Sorry about that was very low price of sure. Thank you begging about hanging up on you. Thanks for playing megan. We're so glad listening. We're so glad that We could be the best part of your day to day. You're absolutely the best part of my day. Every day. i take my daughter to school. I listen to you guys. I love you guys. I've loved you all since you know you guys are on air. You know i just. I enjoy guys you up to your prize to a- pop socket in a phone while at tj. This is ac tj. Show christmas classic. Two thousand nine hundred ninety wouldn't be christmas than last blank or it wouldn't be christmas. Gift blank didn't happen. This is a great example. It would not be christmas if my sister does not show up to quote unquote surprise my eighty year old parents with her four kids and dogs at the last minute. Of course you'll say don't worry about food. My kids don't need to eat. But what are we supposed to do. They don't eat because they're teenagers. What are we doing good. I love this would. It wouldn't be christmas without my mom. Screaming hissy fit. Because something isn't her way and she didn't cancels christmas houses the way she wants. She's not getting credit for cooking. Oh you know. Somebody doesn't like a gift that i got for him. Great matt in charlotte. Well the day show. It wouldn't be christmas about what at your families. My my sweet great aunt michelle god rest their souls. He he gone now but every christmas. We have our food around the table. She. we're waiting in line. We just make a circle and and everyone knows when she's in line she's constantly. Got the runny nose. So she's ripping her snot right into all of our food. We're just trying to make her way to make around around the table. So the in that case you make sure it's just her being everyone. Lets her sit at the front of the table. They're ready for her to get the first so we me and my cousins would just we just know. Were just sitting there. You gotta you gotta beat her to the punch and get their line. Here's why wouldn't be christmas. Wouldn't be christmas my aunt. Lynn didn't get drunk bossie. My uncle might get drunk and y neom oncle. Brian smoke special cigarettes and get high. Call them out by name. No shame what you mico. He ain't bothering nobody. I'm bribes bronco. Mike's drunken winding. It would be christmas if my mom didn't burn the bread. We burnt bread for twenty years until my dad finally said enough then he died now. We have burnt ready man. Answer this thanksgiving. My wife's not going to be allowed to to do the roles she burnham it would be christmas divided. Have to act completely surprised opening my gifts that i bought and wrapped for myself. I you know me so well thank you. I like it though. The the one where the mom is just getting upset because she knows she doesn't like what i got her. She didn't like nobody's giving me creatively. I i don't know if after. I got to be a if i would have been an adult when i was growing up and that was happening every year. I wouldn't have gone to my family's for chris. Yeah back now follow that went on. I'd be like i'm out. No thank you no thank you. It wouldn't be christmas. My mom didn't get mad at one of us then proceeded. Let us know what disease. She's dying from this year so we feel bad and see things her way. She never ends up being sick and she's still alive and kicking that's horrible. This wouldn't be christmas if somebody didn't accidentally re gift. Something they got papa if they didn't accidentally re give something to the person who originally got it for him. That's happens pointer horrible. It wouldn't be christmas without my parents cooking a ham but my sister deciding have hotdogs. Because i don't eat ham. Tj show coming up another acing tj. Show christmas classic. Two thousand nineteen okay. No offence to anyone who has Who has participated in the little segment where we say we wouldn't be christmas and lasts and then you talk about the thing that goes on at your family's christmas celebration but this one is my favorite. I think of the day This is from a fellow called justin. It wouldn't be christmas without a distant cousin. Pitching a new pyramid scheme. Word is this year. She's changed from skin tse to cd oil. I can't wait to the klein the presentation after dinner. Oh wow that's gotta be annoying if somebody's got to tell our yeah. Nobody wants to be bothered with that. When they're trying to enjoy holiday time you talk about inappropriate trying to take the christmas celebration to sell something and make a presentation. Everybody shut up. Tacky tack packet that get here. Have you heard about this new miracle. Potion is called c. b. way. But it's not charlie. Baker and daniels wouldn't be christmas without my aunt showing up at the very end of dinner making five or six to go play for the rest of her family. That didn't come saying hi to everyone and then leaving all right but it seems like if it were me i would probably some. I complained about that. I'd say hey. It's better that she do that than stay down. Want there to be around here being weird giving my car if it meant she would leave. I'm surprised at the number of people that have a relative Well i'm sorry that have a female relative a mother or grandmother that pulls the i'm dying thing every year. This lady said my grandmother. She doesn't pull the. I'm dying thing every year but she does have to be the sickest in the family. It wouldn't be christmas without her telling us how sick she is. This is our glorious chat about christmas dinner. We're discussing plans note that she's sure to throw in her quote unquote illness and pain. And there's a whole section one more thing as you talks about how of only had a reaction to my antibiotic cream for the reason incision that i had from my reason surgery to go. No big deal. Just add this to the list. Goes on to list of all these things that she has. That's wrong with her. Who i can see that happening. Know because a lot of times people People judge they're worth to other people by how caring they are when they're sick interviewing. I wanna see how much you really care about me. When i tell you that i have an ailment. My in your reaction to that is going to show me how much you love me sad or whether you love me at all you care about me. Not one thing. You don't care. If i just lose steadier and died with the wrapping paper. My it wouldn't be christmas if my shrek twin brother didn't openly insult everyone about their appearance. Then want to fight everyone. We remind him of what a loser he is. And then of course poor mama always blaming everybody else except for my poor brother. Yeah that's harsh. I say don't i was to half these. I think i would opt out. I am sorry. I can't go can't make this year about worth it just vega say. I hope she's listening to the pyramids. More act's next tj's year in review september. We've been following the saga of riggins. He's either been putting it off for just procrastinating. One of the to going to the grocery store still hasn't gone to the grocery store. So what were you reduced to doing. Last night you're supposed to go to the grocery store. Yes okay. I was gonna go yesterday. It was bare bones. And i felt embarrassed order from the pizza place again for the second time in three days so i said let me dig through the freezer and find something because i have. Rice was like just eat rice. Sounds like let me go through the freezer nothing nothing. I got some frozen fruit for the dog kenny. That and then there was one mysterious package at the bottom of the freezer wrapped in tin foil. And i went. Oh let's look at this. I pull it out. Unwrap the tinfoil. Then of layer of plastic wrap and i realize it's a bone in chicken breast that i consider has been in there a conservatively. Six to eight months but it's probably closer to a year but it's frozen six is usually. I think six is the cutoff home frozen meat. There was absolutely freezer. Burn on it. Is chris goals already. Just pop it in a ziplock bag. I'll put it submerged in some water. Thought out i thought it out popped it in the oven and i ate. I ate one sauce. Because i didn't i looked through the sauces. I was like what can i put on this dole. The taste of whatever that's going to be chew and a little often tastes like much of anything. Gross i will not. I will not eat and my wife doesn't even notice. I won't eat chicken. That's been frozen a real Thing with chicken that is i. Don't i don't fool around with shaking. Yeah and to me. It loses its texture and flavor and all that when it's been frozen and so if i buy chicken that i'm going to cook and i haven't gotten around to cooking and she'll say This chicken expires in two days. You'll meet just go ahead and freeze it. I'll say yeah. Yeah yeah go ahead and do that. No one that i'm not going to go back and eat it. They and when. I need chicken again. I'm gonna go to the store and get some fresh chicken but it'll stay in there until she's ready to clean out the freezer and then by then. She doesn't know that that it's my chicken that i told her to in their hands thrown away otherwise i would just throw it right in the trash and the oh my god you just waste in that and you know whatever. Yeah well it's just a hang up. I have i with frozen chicken. How you here's a mistake. You made the reagan's You absolutely can eat just rice. Trust meal that. I've got rice and then though some bryce or something you can see how you say. Hey sweet the things you used to do to say. Hey you don't have to thaw it before you put it in the could jiggle. Breast like that arose. Throw them in wondering why they taking so long time to solve stick to time. Play ball on me the whole thing. Frozen in the ovens hey clank guy turned up those rentals on paying sprayed down with some pam's sticking to the heat that let's go eat and honestly i had the rice and i was like well. I got soy sauce rice. And then i got. Y'all gonna just made like some fried rice with nothing else that you could have avoided the chicken altogether or stop worrying about what the people at the pizza place sika. Why don't you get what you want. End up poisoning yourself too worried that they're gonna think you're a loser. No this guy's name malcolm. Hey brian. It's my real name is malcolm from the piece. But i know who calls me. There's more easy tj.

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VelociPodcast 153: Platypus Plague

VelociPodcast

25:43 min | 2 years ago

VelociPodcast 153: Platypus Plague

"The loss of the loss of Veloce Veloce podcast. The loss of podcasts. Hey, sexy friend. He's making his bitch. Maybe want to get a piece of that. I want to talk about sexy teams, I was getting erections. It's very creepy field. I can guarantee that underwear theft will come up again. None of this whole came on cookie balls. Seven hundred and fifty middle will follow. Welcome to the podcast, a study and Manala. Gee, this is your grumpy uncle Peter. He will say words at you. So after episode one fifty two, I actually realized that was the one where we had the mini Tor versus center controversy put to bed completely forever, so that we never have to talk about it again. So that will never come up again. Send tours and or minute tours or anything similar like it. I actually realized I had a question because when it was revealed that the miniature was an individual and not a species, he came about from the Queen of Crete and a majestic bull having relations, and it came out with this large man body with a miniature head and a bull tail. So he was unique in the universe. And so I was perfectly happy to accept that. Then I realized there was a question that I only thought of late. That I hadn't answered and I don't think I can get an answer for it, but because he's an individual he doesn't really have a species name, but we refer to minute tour. And I think what we're referring to minute or, and this is where the confusion may be originally comes from, as a species as a kind of animal. But now that I know that the miniature is unique in the universe, it would actually seem to make more sense of miniature was his name, and he doesn't actually have a species, because he's a mixture of some kind of Queen and animal being a hybrid doesn't have a name as such but then it because it would also be really weird. If a parent had a baby, even if they didn't really say care for them because they built a labyrinth and put this thing in the labyrinth and then fed it virgins you'd still name it so either that animal things name is miniature or it's a species name in that thing has no name. So that's the point where I'm at. Having a little bit of trouble because it's never clarified as to whether or not that things name is minute tour, or that thing is a minute tour, which I actually think if you look at definition of minutes for the are talking about a species, and not a name, but because it's unique it should have a name. So now this is you can see what happened. What happens in my head? I'm going around in a circle and it just happens again. And again, and that is how I ended up spending hours of my day wondering whether or not minutes for is the name of the creature or the creatures name. Core question why is the ship the enterprise in the Star Trek series? White wouldn't black offer more camouflage and space. Now, there are a couple of problems, and there's a couple of different ways to deal with them. When actually discussing this question, the first one is this is a TV show. So do you want to camouflage your spaceship in a TV show because one of the things they want to do in this TV show to appeal to the science fiction enthusiasts is have the spaceship show up on the TV? So the first thing you need to do is make it. So it contrast with the background the background because it's a spaceship is going to almost always be in space, therefore, you actually want it to be a color that shows up, so it should be a bright color. White is one of those colors that shows up very well against black. So that is a real world practical reason for not making the ship black. If I made a black spaceship from my science fiction TV show, there would be almost no. No reason to show the ship on my science fiction TV show because you would have black space and a black shit moving in front of it. So maybe it would block out the stars behind that would be a cool effect for the short term, but it would not be one of those things that would appeal to people long term because they wouldn't be able to see you wouldn't be able to do any exterior shots of the spaceship. Now the second point is, let's go into the universe and talk about the actual ships themselves. My belief is that there would be no real need to worry about whatever color the ship is because we're talking about ships in space. And I think the reason you would need camouflages because you need to hide your ship from an enemy. So that's the only reason we really do camouflage is that we hide while we're in battle. That's a great idea. I am actually on board with that. But if you've noticed even though the ships are white, they aren't using visual acquisition to target the ship. So what I mean is you don't have pilots looking out the front of the ship shooting at the other ships that they can see they have computers doing it because the distances would be huge. These things are moving probably incredibly fast science fiction often has these ships, be very advanced do be able to move very quickly. People aren't going to be able to track it over the distance. They can't see that far. They probably wouldn't be able to pick it out because of the background. So once the ship got far enough away, it would just be one dot amongst many Dodds. So they do what any sensible science fiction thing would do. They would use something more advanced like a computer now the computer isn't checking the color of the ship. That's not what it's looking for. It's looking for a solid object in space. It's looking for metal. It's looking for something else. It's ping in some way, that humans can't now you might have or you might create a species of aliens that could do that. And they wouldn't have those machines on their ship. They wouldn't have like radar sonar detectors. Any kind of thing that you actually use to track another object in space. They would actually have massive windows because they could actually see, but they don't do that. Because again far far enough away. You wouldn't be able to see it anymore anyways, it would be too, small. So in the Star Trek universe, you have the klingons and they have a cloaking device, which is camouflaged, but that makes the whole ship go invisible. So the idea is that not only can people not see it the computers. Can't see it either. So if you go into the fiction they have actually used camouflage, and it has nothing to do with color. It makes the ship invisible because a computer could probably track an empty space where the stars are supposed to be, and they keep disappearing so they can find the ship now the human, I couldn't do that. So it had to be more than that you had to actually be able to see through the ship so that they computer technically wouldn't be able to track it that way. Now, there's only one other reason have you noticed like the space shuttle, and a lot of things that are in space that are supposed to be realistic or are actually realistic. They are also white, but it's so you can see as much as possible because the only reason to go the exterior of a ship is to try to fix something. So if you can't see it if it's. Hard to see in the night sky, which is exactly where you are. That makes it very hard on my understanding is that when you go to the dark side of the ship, it is almost like there is no light at all. So it's invisible. So I obviously has to do with the closest light source being the most powerful, repairing your ship on a regular basis, which would probably be something, you have to do would take priority over camouflage. Now, the secondary thing within the fiction of Star Trek is that these are not warships. They are research vessels. Now they have armaments because they go into hostile territory. They engage engage with aliens and whatnot, and they don't know if they're going to be friendly or not. So they're trying to protect themselves, but the primary role of these ships is not war. It's actually to explore their signs vessels and things like that. So they are trying to camouflage themselves. They're trying to present themselves as friendly to unknown aliens, so they don't wanna come across as evil or hide themselves or anything like that. Now, there were a couple of movies where they had warships, and they were painted black, but that was again, primarily for the drama that was to create the contrast between the good enterprise, and the evil worship that they had created. There are a couple of other things that would actually go along with this question. And it's the idea that we can't see lasers. So when we see the pew pew lasers or the big long streak of light, that's not what you would see if they were using real lasers, you might see a Mark on the ship, when it hit it, and then it would just start to burn a hole in that ship. But it wouldn't be the long streak of life. But why do we use that because it's more dramatic for the viewer to see because if you don't see anything that would be pretty boring space battle, because we're just be two ships and then one burst into flames. It'd be neat. It'd be realistic, but it would actually be visually quite boring to watch because you have to ships circling around each other, and they just one stops because there, wouldn't be massive explosions in space. There's no oxygen to feed that fire. So there'd be a lot of, like pops and things like that, and that would immediately go dead because the fire wouldn't extend it self into into the area beyond the ship now that takes us to a tertiary issue, which is sound the lasers, wouldn't make any like shoes. Annoys and they wouldn't make any burning sounds at all because this is again space, there is no sound in space. So you would hear maybe a humming from the ship that shooting if you were inside the ship, but probably not lasers. Don't actually make a lot of noise even the machines that make them and they would be on a different deck. So you wouldn't hear anything at all? Certainly not that sh sound that they use in Star Trek. And when missiles fire again, that's going to be two three decks below the actual bridge, you wouldn't hear thing would just see the thing go out into space, and then you would see again, a pop a small explosion. You wouldn't hear anything and then that ship would probably just stop moving or would be floating in the direction. It was already going because momentum, it's really hard to look at science fiction using real science because if you did that it'd be great, but it would be visually, an auditory very boring to experience space battles, would just not be interesting at all. So what you've run up against is what I call the drama drive, which is things break and need to be fixed, just in time to create tension and drama in a story, and that has nothing to do with real life. And that is why the ships and Star Trek are white and not black for camouflage. Hey, Peter Lorre here with all this animal talk recently, I'd really, like to know your opinion about platypuses, first of all, there's a couple of things within the question. I think we need to clarify its Peter here, and Laura there. So let's just get that right from the start. The second point is the plural of platypuses now, people have always said occupies incorrect because grammatically it's not correct. And it has to go back to the Greek, and Latin roots of words. But we all know that I is way more fun to say than s so people who say, octopuses are boring unhappy, people people who say occupy are just generally better in all ways. And I think this should apply to almost everything that ends with an S saying, plural with an eye is just more fun. So grammar rules be damned. It shouldn't be platypuses. It should be Plata pie. It shouldn't be stewardesses. It should be steward. I it shouldn't be ambulances. It should be ambulance. And that's something that Veloce podcast is offering out into the world. It has nothing to do with anything is just when people say anything with sort of a US sound at the end of the word, you would just be more fun. There will be more levity more joy more positive feelings in the world. If we started using, I as the plural for a lot more words so does something to consider. I'm not saying that's the answer to your question because your question is different from the thing. I said, it's just the, the question you asked included something that I have always felt very strongly about that S's isn't the right answer to our grammar problems. I is because when you say the occupy the plateau pie the steward I your face just makes that smile and as we've known scientists said, and it's complete bunk as far as I'm concerned that when your face makes a smile, you just feel better. Now I've known. That's not true because I fixed mile a lot, and I don't feel better so proof in the pudding, if I happen to be the pudding, and that is a weird euphemism for something. I'm sure that I've just made a mistake. But as your actual question, what do I feel or think about the platypus? So I'm not gonna use the plural just to, to avoid the problem. That I've just created for myself, most of the questions I deal with, when it came to dragons, and Wibran's, and centers and minutae is that they are fictional. So because they're fictional weaken apply rules to them. We can decide things about them. We can create definitions we can change things. The platypus is a real animal. So because it's real, we have to look at what it really is. And then see if we appreciate that because we call it like a mixture of animals. It has a duck's Bill. It has a beaver tail it has sort of auto body, but that's not true. The platypus is a real animal, and it doesn't have things that has taken from other animals. It has developed to be its own unique individual, and that is something I think we have to appreciate because it doesn't have a duck's, Bill. It has a plot to post, Bill. It doesn't have a beaver tail has it's own tale. It's a mammal. But it lays eggs it has a poisonous spur. And I think those are things that you just have to respect because no other animal is like that it's unique in the universe. Now, when people discovered the plan of Perry him, they brought it back to England. And people didn't believe it. They thought it was a hoax. And I think that in itself is worth appreciating that this animal is so unique that people couldn't conceive couldn't believe of it, where we conceived of centers because they're so garbage. They are such a waste of thought and time and space and then throw it into our mythology. But then everyone realizes it's garbage in his bad. You shouldn't spend any time thinking about it ever again. So the question is what do I really think I think it's amazing? I think it's awesome. I think anything with a poisonous spur just immediately deserve some kind of regard, in fact that it's cute and has a poisonous Burgess makes it better because you have the scorpion in the scorpion has a tail and a poisonous spur at the end. And sure that's great. It's almost like it was designed or we have grown to see it as just inherently evil thing. You give something a score. Entail? And we already we just inherently think that's a bad thing. It's kind of evil, but you respected. The plot area is deceptive in that you would see something. And then we have grown to believe that these fuzzy things are cute, and friendly, and we should snuggle them. And as you snuggle, it, that's not poison spur is gonna get you and it's going to kill you and you're going to die. I have actually in a weird way. Modeled, my life on the platypus because I have tried to hone what innate abilities I have to be a killing machine. Past my prime. We'll be honest about that. But have also tried to be as cute as possible now that takes a lot more work because I'm not a particularly attractive human being, but I've used what charm I have available to me to endear myself, so that I can get close to people, so that should I choose to I could hug and then murder them. So what do I think of the platypus platypus is awesome? I think anyone with any sense would agree. But maybe the more important take away from this is that if you can plural is something with an eye. You should. This podcast does not tend to be topical is because I wanted to be timeless. I want you to be able to go back and listen from the very first episode all the way up to now episode one hundred and fifty whatever and have everything that is said, still be relevant now that's impossible. But one of the things we can explore and always be topical, even if it came comes from the news today is human nature, and the things we believe, now, it was revealed recently in the news, that a couple caught the plague now, the plague is not like a term for a new disease. This is the actual plague that decimated Europe, in the fourteen hundreds. Now, I personally surprised when I read that headline because I thought the plague was gone. I thought it was one of those diseases that have been a radical not because of any sort of technological advance on, our part is just it had killed so many people that just couldn't kill anymore, people. And then it died out with the last people who died of the plague this turns out to not be the case. There are lots of animals that still hot. For the plague and one thing, we do know is the play is often transferred by flea bites, so there are fleas that have the plague and they go from animal to animal, and they give it to animals, but those animals die relatively quickly. They don't have a chance to spread the disease, which is why we don't really have a huge problem with it anymore, when it gets into humans, though, just like in the fourteen hundreds, it can be spread more easily, apparently when it gets into humans, it can actually be spread through droplets is the nice way to refer to it. But it means if anything from my body gets onto your body. There's a good chance. You are going to catch the plague as well. So if I'm coughing and I call on you or I cough on a doorknob or something and you touch it. There's a good chance you're going to get the plate, too. So I appreciate is, is there still the plague, and this is another thing that I surprised me because measles was basically a radical until anti vaccine decided that vaccines were bad. And now measles is come back now, the scientific evidence there is that measles has come back, which would show that the science isn't trying to kill you or make your kids autistic or anything like that. It's actually. Get rid of the measles, because they basically done it until you stop vaccinating your kids. There is just a core logic there measles was gone. Now. It's not gone. People were vaccinating now. They're not vaccinating. There's an equivalency there that anti vaccine, don't seem to want to admit to because if science was trying to do something else. Sure. Maybe they are trying to let's even give him the benefit of the doubt and say they are trying to do something else. At least they were still getting rid of the measles. But that's not the story. This is among Golan couple, and they decided they were going to get up in the morning. And this is how whenever I hear a story like this surprised me, I like to think of the decisions, the lead up to that moment. So they say, hey, Honey. I don't know what the Mongolian word for Honey is. But, you know, there's something, hey, Honey. You know we should do today. We should go eat some raw rat. Well, my love rat. Isn't that appealing to me, and it doesn't have the health benefits of eating raw marmot? Oh, you're right round marmot is better than raw rat, because a moment is a much larger animal, and therefore, we'll get more meat out of it. So that's where the couple started. They woke up in the morning and they said, let's eat some raw rodent, and they agreed on that. They actually went out together and did it now. The first thing I had to do was actually catch the marmot now Mongolia, being a country that still has a lot of hunting and hurting of animals. I'm sure they actually are very adept at hunting, so off. They go out. I'm sure they trapped amendment, or they mar the marmot. They have to play right? Mamat. No. If you eat Mamat, you actually gain the ability to write plays that I will never see. That's maybe a fun morning. Couple goes out catches a marmot together. I don't know if the USA trap, or they shot it or these bow and arrow or what but they caught it and they had their fresh marmot now they sat down and said, well, you know, the health benefits come from this, if we eat it, we have to eat it raw can't cook it. Well, wait a minute. Isn't the reason we cook animals, dead animals? Hopefully don't cook his live ones. That's pretty awful. Isn't the reason we cook animals is to kill bacteria that could kill us? Yes. That is true. But the problem is if we kill those bacteria, wall, speak the other stuff that might give us health benefits that our local culture beliefs, so we have to eat it raw. So sure, let's eat it raw. So then they agree, we're going to take this thing this rodent that we just caught. We're going to eat it without cooking it, and that will make us healthier and stronger, and better people in it might even solidify our love forever. I don't know. So they said, well, what, what bid should we each the muscles? That's the meat bit. Or let's eat the kidney, which is the bit that actually filters out stuff in the body. So, you know, there's a lot of bad bacteria in their gallbladder, which is another thing that's full of bacteria, and the stomach, which has a lot of acid, but also a lot of bacteria in as well. So let's eat three things from the rodent raw uncooked that have a ton of bacterium, and that will make our lives better. That'll make us healthier, Mongolian people. And so they agreed to that. And then ate it now, I can't imagine that the rock kidney Rog, all Bader. And the Ross stomach actually tasted that good taste is not universal. I'm a lot of people are disgusted by the idea of raw fish and Japan. Whereas, I personally quite like it, but I know one of the things that before I ate raw fish in Japan was that it was safe. I mean relatively nothing's really safe. Every day you walk out your house. You could get hit by a bus. I don't know why these buses are so angry at us, but that's always the expression, you could get hit by a bus. So they ate the kidney the gallbladder in the stomach. They didn't need the whole marmot, which is. Kind of disappointing to me because that's a bit of a waste, but they had gotten the bits they wanted gall bladder seems to come up a lot in these sort of eastern ideas of what will make you healthy, and strong. A lot of the medicines actually talk about sort of vigor for men, eating a bacteria Laden, Oregon of raw will not make vigorous. I know that it would actually probably make me feel sick just from the idea. And then I don't want to have any sort of relations or sexual intercourse after that. So I know it's not gonna work for me, but this is a belief system and it sort of the placebo effect. If you believe it, it might be true. The problem was this marmot had the plague a probably a flea bitten it, and the plague was in its system. It had manifest a to a degree. Or maybe that's why it was caught because it was the slower marmot because it wasn't feeling well, they ate it and within a few days, they died. The result was the quarantine. Of the area, they lived in for six days and people apparently weren't going outside because they were afraid of catching the play is again. They didn't really understand where it comes from just like I thought they probably thought it was gone, just like, like I actually believed it was eradicated hundreds and hundreds of years ago. But there is the series of decisions, each one of which seems like it would definitely due to the final result of something bad happening. That's wake up. Let's catch a rodent. Let's eat, what I actually think might be the worst bits healthwise. Let's eat that and not cook it to counteract soda the bacteria in the system in see what happens because I think this is gonna make us better. Now the only way I could justify this series of decisions this kind of logic is that if they had survived the plague they would be healthier overall. In fact, even then I think it would do enough damage to your system that you wouldn't be healthier overall, but it might actually induce into you the ability to pass on traits to your kids, because it is my understanding that because the people who survived the plague in the fourteen hundreds of some of their offspring actually became immune to later diseases. Like, there are people in Europe who are immune to the. The aids virus because in their ancestry, they had someone who survived, the plague. So if that was your goal, I almost accept it. Except the problem is, if you look at the percentage of survival rate versus death when it actually came to contracting, the plague your chances of surviving are quite low. So unless you think you're special this isn't gonna work out. And let me be really clear, you're not special, and there is your Veloce podcast, moral for the day, make decisions as if you are not special. And I think you'll actually live a better healthier longer life. The loss of. Veloce. Veloce Veloce Veloce podcast. The loss of podcasts. Hey, sexy friend. He's making me bitch. Thank you for listening. If you have questions or comments, you can tweet at velocity Peter or Email Veloce podcast, g mail dot com. You can find the podcast on night, Younes Stitcher at cost, or go to villa Z, pita dot com slash podcast. Most of the questions I deal with, when it came to dragons, and Wibran's and send tours and minutae. I made myself laugh, at least.

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VelociPodcast 156: Level 1

VelociPodcast

22:22 min | 2 years ago

VelociPodcast 156: Level 1

"The loss of the loss of loss podcast. The loss of podcast. Hey, sexy friend. He's making me his bitch. Maybe want to get a piece of that. I wanna talk about sexy teens. I was getting a wreck shins. It's very creepy field. I can guarantee that underwear theft will come up. Again, none of this whole Pok on cooking balls. Seven hundred and fifty middle ball. Welcome to the podcast, a study in Manala. Gee, this is your grumpy on Peter. He will say words at you get on the podcast. I've talked many, many times about martial arts, and I was walking with my friend who's joined judo about a year and a half, maybe almost two years now. He's been doing it and the guys at our club or saying you should go for your black belt test, so he started asking me. Do you think I'm ready? Do you think I'm capable? I said. Yeah. Yeah, you should go ahead and try it. I mean, worst case scenario, you don't win the fights and you don't get your black belt right now. You can get it later. He was under the mis understanding that most people are the black belt means you're good. Here's the thing black belts means, you have mastered, and that's where the usually stop the sentence, which is incorrect. A black belt means you have mastered, the basics. So if you think about this system and Japan, there's just two levels of white belt and then black belt. Candidates different. I'll get into the differences in a second, but you have e q Niki level, one level, two white belt. And then you'd be a black belt in there'd be showdown, which is like first black belt need second black belt, and he just count up until you get to ten but you don't get ten less, you die. Who is fighting for the first level black belt. So the easiest way to explain it is white belt suck. They just don't know enough. They're not good enough. They haven't learned enough EQ the lowest level white belts, so you would have to fight other white belts. Other inexperienced people who don't know very much to get Niki. You beat a bunch of other people who are terrible sport. It means you're not that terrible at the sport. You're not good. I mean again, this is gonna come a bunch of times, but you're not good yet. So who are you fighting to get that first black belt? You're fighting a bunch of people who are also not terrible. Again. Not good yet, but they're not terrible and you will see the numbers. Lindell. So you beat another a bunch of other people who aren't good at martial art, and you get your black belt. And this is rice e the actual challenge begins, because now, people are getting functional so showed on means you are you've mastered, the basics you understand the sport, you can do probably multiple moves. You might only be good at one or two, but you can do a bunch of things. So now you're fighting another bunch of people for your need on your second degree black belt. But now, people are actually getting good. So this is something I had to explain that black belts in most martial arts, does not actually mean you're good at that martial art, yet, you're probably adequate, you probably okay. If not until you get your second degree third degree black belt that you're actually significant. You're actually good. So I told the story way back when about losing my black belt in Japan I came to Japan with a black belt from Canada. And they took it away from me, because I hadn't done my test here, and I had to redo all my tests. But of course, the testing was really unfair because here I was an international. Competitor with lots of experience, I tore through these poor low level bells. It wasn't even funny. It's funny now is the story, but it wasn't funny in the moment, certainly, I don't know if it's funny for those guys. But what I found is that black belts in Japan are all right. Second degree black belts in Japan. Are quite good. And then after that you're getting like the guys in the Olympics their third and fourth by the time you get to fifth and sixth degree black belt. You're actually probably passed the competitive stage in your life, and you're getting belts for teaching things like that. But because of the level system, you are only defeating other bad people to get that black belt in the first place. If you can beat a bunch of bad, people doesn't mean you're good in any real way, it means you've mastered, the basics which is what I'm saying. The first degree black belt is now that takes away a lot of the mysticism of the black belt in the whole system. Because people say, I'm a black belt in the immediate reaction would be, like Whoo, while he must be good. But when I hear someone's black all. He must be okay until I hear you done competitions in one series of competitions until he's gotten multiple black bells. Then I start to make the assumption that he's actually quite good in Canada. The system is different. It's white yellow orange green blue Brown black, and then second degree third degree, what I found as the Canadian black belts, and probably America's well, I agree. Black bells were significantly better than Japanese. I agree black belts. But Japanese second degree black belts, significantly outclassed, North American second-degree barbells. So for me the goal was to get at least my second degree black belt in Japan before I stopped testing because I'm already getting old. I didn't really want to go through the testing too much, and the actual test isn't too bad. There's some fighting there's some formal demonstrations and stuff. I was fine with all that. But there's a paper test in, I don't read well enough to be successful on the paper test. So I was terrified of the paper test every time we had to do it. So once I got my second degree black belt back. I didn't really care if I got my third and fourth but yeah, just to be honest, and take away a little bit of the mystic nature of the whole black belt system when you hear that someone's a black belt, don't immediately assume. They're good immediately assume. They're not the worst, but I think these kind of conversations these kind of honest, examinations of what things really are is something that's missing. And sure there is sort of a sexy, MRs of the to getting a black belt, but I think it's actually better if people really know what it is and understand the reality. So they could aspire actually understand, like I can get this. I can do this. Core question. My thirteen year old son is threatening to break his old MAC book, unless I buy him a brand new macbook pro. What should I do? This is a very odd threat, because the kid is threatening to break something he has that he obviously wants an upgrade to, if you don't give in and he breaks it, what happens. So I honestly would let them go ahead and break it and I just wouldn't buy a new macbook pro. And when he says he needs a computer to work with, I would say, why give you a MAC book. I mean you're the one who decided to break it. I don't know why you thought that would be a viable threat. Now you have a choice, you can go get it repaired, or you can save money and go, buy your own, because I've already spent that money. I'm not spending it again. There do seem to be consistent questions on Cora. Of kids threatening their parents and the parents not seeming to know what to do about it. Now, there are different set of issues there, you've got into a situation where the child seems to be comfortable threatening you as an adult. I have two kids, and I can tell you, they would never threaten me because the consequences would be swift firm and Scher. But in this situation, if my kid walked up and said, you gave me this laptop, I'm going to break it. If you don't buy me, a new laptop, I would say, go ahead and not by the new laptop, they can't make you pay for things. And now they can't do their homework or something because it sounds like the MAC book is somehow, essential to study or some other need. So I'm assuming it's what the kid does homework loan, but he's only thirteen years old. So he's not really doing much for school would require a MAC book specifically, so I would guess that the things he needs to do on the MAC book, pro the upgrade are all socially oriented. Either it's to show that he has social status by having a better computer or he wants to do things like become youtuber, any wants better more powerful computer, to do it with none of that is anything I care about. And I have no need to help them with. But if you want to be a more positive parent, what you should actually do is say, let's set up a system where you can earn a new MAC book pro so you have to do things, so it could be get a certain grades in school. It could be some sort of helping around the house, it could be doing some kind of work that is between you and the kid and should be a form of negotiation 'cause negotiation is very good for kids. It's very good for their mental process is very good to learn that if they actually do things and follow through, there are wards whereas, if they don't there is sort of there isn't a Gatien, they don't get punished. But they don't get the thing they wanted to get and that failure is something that parents, try to protect your kids from I try to do it. It's an instinctual thing it's because you wanna have your kids be happy all the time. But failure is really good for kids. But for me, the first thing, the first problem, actually take care of is the fact that the kid is comfortable threatening you and I would say, okay dude, go ahead break your MAC look, in fact, give it to me. I'll break it for you. And I bet the minute I put my hands on his MAC book, he realizes that he about to lose the thing he has, and I'm not going to buy a new one, but actually went through broken. I bet the kids tone would change to you broke my MAC book. You have to know buy a new MAC book, because this sounds like the kind of shitty attitude. This kid has and shitty attitudes might I add are generally learned from the parents anyways, so that's a secondary problem as well. Maybe you have to fix your attitude, maybe you've demonstrated this to the kid. Maybe you've shown the kid this is how you get what you want in the world. Is that something you have to fix on your part? But if my kid ever threaten me in this way, I was. Go ahead. Man. I do not care at all. Would you rather? Eat ice cream flavored poop or poop flavored ice cream to me, the, the conceptual issue here is actual health. So if you're eating the ice cream, you know, it's technically safe, but if you have to ingest it and feel sick probably throw up because it's bad tasting because it tastes. I assume also smells, like poop, I think the smell is going to be the worst part of the poop because it's the patient creates before you eat it. So my actual only question is, if I eat the ice cream flavored poop, I know I'd be able to eat it, but would I get physically sick afterwards because I know there are animals that eat poop regularly, and they don't get sick, and there's different kinds of poop, poop from a herb of war, while, again, we wouldn't want to eat it probably wouldn't make you sick because mostly based on grass, and grains, and things like that. In fact, there might even be some nutritional value there now. I think really the issue the problem with the question here is that the question has not has not been explicit enough in how much you have to eat if it's a tiny tiny dollop. I would absolutely just choose the ice cream flavored poop because I could just choke it down really fast, and if it's just a little bit. I don't think I'd get sick. I think maybe what they're saying is a full on ice cream cone, or a large amount. And that's where it becomes a bit of a question. Because if it was poop flavored ice cream. I don't think it would be possible to choke it down. But am I Alba gated to finish it? So there's a couple of issues here that need to be explained to me before I can actually make proper decision as to which I would do because if I don't have to finish it. And I just want to maintain my health. I might choose the poop flavored ice cream. Take a couple tastes of it probably be sick and throw up or whatever. But then I'm finished if you have the ice cream flavored poop and you can show it down. There is just the question of how sick will I get? So without knowledge, a better understanding of how the poop flavored ice cream was made or how the ice completed poop was made. It's almost impossible to answer this question. Honestly, because my instinct is go for the ice cream flavored. Poop because I assume you have to finish it. There's some kind of impetus here. You don't create this kind of situation, if you finish the task at hand, I would take the one that I know I could choke down the only question that is how sick while I get, so it's really to be able to make decision in this way. We need a couple of more factors included in the question, sort of the structure of the whole scenario, we need volume, we need impetus. We need consequence because without that information, it's very difficult for me to answer if it's just a tiny bit. Yeah, I will take the poop flavored ice cream if it's a lot. I actually think I might go for the ice cream flavored poop. Because again, I'm going back to the assumption that I have to actually finish the. Bowl. I've been given of either substance. If I have to finish it, if a have to be able to keep it in my body for certain amount of time, the taste, the flavor is going to be very important. Now, of course, it is going to make me sick. But I think you're getting sick either way. But if your goal is to finish the ice cream, then you need to be able to finish it, there is maybe a secondary issue that they're saying, we're going to change all ice-cream for the rest of eternity. So it's going to be all ice cream flavored. Poop or poop flavored ice cream in which case, I would choose the poop again. And I choose the poop again because if you eat ice cream regularly, I think your body would adapt, it would adjust. And then maybe even then you would stop thinking about it, as poop it would just be ice cream. If you have a would you rather question you would like me to answer? Please Email to Veloce podcast gmaiLcom, and I will give it some serious thought because it requires no research, like the dumb minitour question. There was a question that was posted to read it which actually really interesting. It was what is a level one. Bad guy in real life. Now I didn't read any of the answers, because I didn't want to be influenced by anything that was said on read it now, the first thing you need to do is actually define a level one human being, and I would actually think most people instinctually would start with child. So a child is not got a lot of skill sets are not very capable that kind of thing, and that therefore would acquaint to level one and then you come in adult you'd be like, let's say level, five level, ten or something like that. I actually think that is sort of incorrect, I think, kids would be a negative level. So as levels zero level, one would actually be the starting point for human being. So I think when you're around sixteen seventeen or eighteen is when you hit level one, because you would be a functional capable human being. Now there are Olympia ads. And whatnot. And I know a lot of like gymnasts and things they tend to be younger. They're in their teens maybe early twenties, their careers end twenty-five, but they almost would be anomalies, because my thinking is a level one person would be young and have no real skill set yet. So those kids who started training for the Olympics when they were thirteen fourteen years old, and go to the Olympics sixteen they've had some sort of buff given to them, so that's different unique situation because what I was thinking is imagine the example of an untrained Lehman fighting, boxer professional boxer, so the professional boxer would be very high level. If we're talking about fighting stats because that's actually how this question was kind of frame like a level one. Bad guy. Good bad guys. The thing you have to fight to be to defeat to gain the X P, the experience to move up levels, so the pro boxer would be. Very high level enemy and him fighting an untrained layman would be kind of like very high level enemy fighting a very low level enemy. So that's why figured adulthood was going to have to be a baseline factor. Now, it would have to still be young. That's why it shows sort of mid to late teens because your development in the early stages in most games, if that's the context using this, in increases quickly at the beginning, and then spreads out plateaus as you get to the higher levels. You need more X P to go from level, fifty to fifty one as you would from level one to level, two level three the other thing to take into account is if you are level one and the bad guys level one, you're actually equivalent, which means the level one bad guy is just as dangerous to you. When you're at level, one. So again, a layman versus another Lehman they are equivalent. They have the same chance of beating each other. So that would also have to go into adulthood because if I am a level one. Human being. Let's say, I'm again, sixteen years old and a little kid runs up to me. I could beat him, probably very easily because he's smaller and weaker. That's why I wanted to put children at a minus level. Or maybe they haven't finished developing. They haven't finished their character creation, yet, even the level to it'd be very low level. If I was still at level, one level, two enemy would be twice as strong as it's still very difficult for me to be whereas something was level fifty unimaginable, so professional fighters would have to be the high level enemies. Lehman untrained layman would have to be the low level enemies, a completely untrained regular person seems like the best choice for the level one enemy, and then any amount of training after that would increase their level just as it would for me. So I started. Let's say fifteen sixteen years old, I was completely untrained. I couldn't fight anyone I would have slapped fights. I wouldn't know what to do if someone attacked me if I was finding someone else who was a quivalent. It was. A fifty fifty shot as to who would win. Once I had some training, and I got up to level, two level three those level one guys aren't much of a challenge anymore. So when we get to the level we get to the mid teams and we get to the twenties, and thirties, most games, have a level cap around fifty and that gives you a really good spread between the beginning and the end because once you're at level forty five and you go back to that starting area where you fight the level, one guys because I answered this question immediately translated into judo terms, because judo something understand and actually has levels something, I've talked about many times is the different levels, the white belts, the black belts at cetera. And then when I had to redo my black belt test in Japan. They swapped by belt. They took away my black belt maybe put on a white belt actually fight other white belts to get the points that I needed to be able to do the test to get my black belt back. Now, the thing is that didn't actually decrease my level. It was sort of a costume change, but it didn't decrease my actual skill set. So it was very much me a level. Let's say thirty guy in this game fighting level one guys these guys had no experience. Maybe they had gotten to level too. But the only thing I remember was every fight ended in about thirty seconds provided with no experience at all. Which is very realistic. Because I would I was it was not a fair fight again. This is I always feel like it's a weird kind of brag that I could beat these guys. But it's, it's not what it is. It was just unfair. I had years and years and years of experience, and I was fighting guys you had no experience and so- defeating them was a foregone conclusion. Because the fight was unfair from the start I was level twenty thirty forty. They were level one two three. So the scariest part of that experience for me was what if actually make a mistake in lose because that would have been horrible embarrassment? Realistically, that was never really on the table. But in the back of my mind that still rolled around, because magin you are a level forty character and you go into a game area with level ones and they managed to beat you. You would feel like how men I really messed that up. I didn't know what I was doing. So to define the level one bad guy. I think the first thing to remember is a level one. Bad guy could kill a level one. Good guy, the good guy being you. In this case, I assume but a level one bad guy should be easy to beat. Once you have any form of real training, which is up to your level a little bit. So it would have to be untrained Lehman, and someone who hasn't developed a lot, physically and has no buffs. So, like those Olympia, I was mentioning earlier, but I wanna take out kids, because first of all, it's hard to make a kid bad guy. I know there are bullies and bad kids and stuff out there. But they're not really bad guys in the same context as the expression is used in video game culture. So they kind of have to be adults or approaching adult hood. That's where the baseline comes from is. What is our baseline between zero and one because kids, I think are at levels zero. And then when they finally finished developing, they would hit level one. That's why chose that kind of range in the teen years because that's when you finish growing. You finish sort of your body can start to develop you can start to get a lot bigger. You can start to get a lot stronger. You start to train in a different way and make significant improvements to your own physical abilities. So my definition of level one bad guy in real life. And then trained late teenager, because I as a quivalent at that age would it would be a very fair fight. Whereas if I had a couple years on the kid, I'd probably be able to beat them just because of certain amount of knowledge, if I had training on the kid, I should be able to beat him because of that. And that's why it becomes very clear a level one. The loss of the loss of the loss of loss of podcast. The loss of podcasts. Hey, sexy friend. He's making me bitch. Thank you for listening. If you have questions or comments, you can tweet at Veloce Peter or Email, Valsad podcast, g mail dot com. You can find the port cost on night. Younes Stitcher at cost will go to Velizy pita dot com slash podcast. No. I'm gonna cut all that out.

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Lacey & Flynn Have Sex

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We just had sex

"Who we are here. We are whereabout to do it. We're about to have sex for the first time in three weeks. It feels like six months. But i think it's been three weeks but those because for us three weeks is we're in Sexual time-warp we haven't had sex for three weeks. Because i had a spiritual ut i it was a real uti. But i think it was brought upon me by a spiritual and emotional happening happenstance yet when you took your first visit to the gp in. I can't even remember. Yeah i couldn't find it. They couldn't find the uti well cup and the computer said no computers said no. So i'd seen some alternative practitioners have been doing my own work. And then i wanted to go and pena coppins get the news in case i had some staff in my kidneys because i was kind of concerned because i'm not really bad. Yeah computer said no because it was there but it was also it was brought upon me profile. Them speaking at some sort of wrath But it came about. Because i was processing stock from twenty years ago when i used to get quite a lot of beauty is so it came about because i was processing that trauma and just like restored that trauma to my body but now it's moved through me and i'm feeling good. Just wash my face a brush. My teeth and i'm ready to fuck enjoy. Chabosy i did. I did wash my pussy and ass in the sing of the small lower bathroom. And i used a child sweater to try myself and then put it in the laundry because i would be to go upstairs and possibly disturbed children. I know it's just too risky. Like you could do something like go upstairs and do something enjoyable for yourself like how the shower and get prepared or you could wash your ass in the sink because you can't risk waking up your children. Some nine o'clock point of epic dress bill that we've had it's really not worth it. The children's sweater can be washed his opportunity till adora now more. We're meant to have the have meetings tonight and those didn't end up happening so we have this opening and yet feels really auspicious with everything that's happening in our lives and to really christen this podcast as well with this sexual encounter. I'm really excited. I'm actually feeling like all the stirrings. And my pussy. I can see your eyes are glimmering with excitement glimmering. It's actually. i'm in pain right now. Because i'm sitting back on my knees and i didn't know why we didn't get more comfortable before we started recording. I thought you had a glimmer of like pleasure and excitement in your eyes but actually it's pain so obviously i don't know you very well like oh helix desirous in hungary but actually he's just guide. Shane businees on k. There we got just casually sitting around with mike send. Yeah tranet news you podcasting rig sounds good. It does sound good. We're gonna do it now. Is there anything else that we want to say prior to like how are you feeling. I think it's good to check in like what's happening musical body. it feels. Everything feels awkward at this point in going to be a wild dance. That's for sure. What feels awkward. Just and i have an. We've tried a couple of times recently to have sex and then we try. Lawf- is just so full. Yeah we're just look at each other and they're more like basically neither of us could be bothered it was doing. It was two nights ago and they were saying this not an it. Wasn't that the real so it was getting late. You're not telling the whole truth. It was getting late. The lot of tension dopamine. He was a lot of tension. I'm going to clarify an offer the truth. There's a lot of tension and we knew that it had sex or we got into. It was going to be quite a big session. And frankly i didn't wanna stay up late and i'd rather watch the defiant one son netflix and learn about dr dre. It would be really into that lately. Doing exactly what we tell some students not to do. Don't watch netflix. Have sex instead and yet we know that she is real because those shows legit sometimes and so is your resistance to have sex. Your loved one but also we wanted to record it. We wanted to have everything set out because we wanted to share this session. Because i think this session exemplifies what happens when you have a long stretch. I wanna know like i want to know the decree like for me and my body feeling excited. I'm really interested to see what comes through. 'cause i know there's going to be healing. You and i've feeling quite distant. Our relationship for variety of reasons. We've been very busy. There's been a lot of stuff happening across all facets of our life. So you and i haven't really been sitting in heart space feeling connected and loving. We've been more like going through the motions and just getting shit done and i really feel like our hearts are just begging to connect. I'm feeling like all the stirrings in my plac- like i'm just so excited. I'm day ten or eleven day ten of my cycle so like my desirous factor as like being coming through the roof. I'm totally good to go. The other thing that's been happening loves recently. Is i have been on the gaps diet. Ever run a is so sick of hearing the worst gaps It's really taken over. I love if you don't know what that is. It's basically at dealing the lining of you got. It's not a diet. But you cutting out so much stuff from that you would normally eat. And aiding only super intensely nourishing broths and all this stuff for multiple weeks on end and i had a massive body detoxing and turned into a stew kind of m. a a raging. Just angry boston lately. Yeah you will. You've been cleansing was dame demons been like really come up from the depths and his circling around and kind of taking over men and some moments of the day. And i'm lightly has been a couple of times and i've been just wondering why all that was. That was intense swatted. Our reaction like that who emily so selby be pricing some serious stuff because of the massive change in my diet and my body's been seriously detoxing whole bunch of stuff. Yeah plus let's. Let's give ourselves some some upset loss. Ut i e app but also through mass of spiritual healing we've been seeing. We've done the bio resonance magnet therapy. We've been doing lomilomi massage. Like full bodies deep massage of every party view. We've been seeing no army path. Oh my gosh so at the same time sober algae guy a few times like kind of kinesiology but his own. Take on it and work. I think what's really happened is the ut. I was kind of a physical thing that brought distance between us. But also i think we've both needed our own space of the last few weeks because we've both been processing so much often when you're up leveling or coming into a place in your life deep transformation you have to go quite dark until the shadows to then pull out into the light. You can only go as light as you can go dark and so we've been going to some dark places and and of course you can actually deeply cleansing on a physiological level. Like you've been shitting out the stuff that's been caked into your body wash. It was black. Yeah was any what now. Your shit smells lazing. All of a sudden shit smells like musha dunston. He doesn't it smell. Someone may be farted in the room. Like fifteen minutes before it's like. Oh this happened in here and it's like No i don't think so. It's extraordinary your body's becoming this purified temple on before. There was no question that will happen living at home and died in here is there did old man behind the toilet. Someone who died of covid last week right away. I'm just like i can't believe you just said he died of covid. I was like i was fine. Picturing an old man died behind the toilet but then the c word about because he may be smelled as shit. Smell my shit and died. He's not going to die. Name all probably resurrecting. He's done but anyway. Needless to say we've been on a huge cleansing fucking spiritual journey before kinlaw reset simultaneous author. We live together. Were still in this strange. uk lockdown. We are always together. Were attached to the asshole. So it's like it's fine that you know. We've had a patch for last three weeks but i know we're both itching because this is our place of like. This is our place of connection. What i'm just thinking. Oh we're joined at the us. Oh you lucky. Joined mine mine is fucking minds around crystal and i just washed mine in the in the snow sink. Crystal clean does not a thing that people say that crystal clear mommy's crystal clear but other than links hall's not crystal clear. Did he get bleach tonight now. I didn't need to the gaps. Thought least for me. It's broth bleached. The chickens jesus to go from being people who've been predominantly plant based for many many years to gaps dishes twenty four seven. Meet and slowly. But it's extraordinary that that level of meat can actually cleric gleich. Clean you out so much. We learned so much anyway. Let's return to the facts of of it doesn't matter it's giving context So i need to know that shit cause has been intense. Yeah but i think the main point to return to as that our sexual relationship and what we've shared of ourselves and what we share with people who learn from us is that we use it as a place to come to regardless so it's like rock up. We use it. Like people use meditation or yoga will use it to connect to come inward to heal to explore to transcend an elite to have massive. We have massive breakthroughs for a business for a life direction of alive for a note. Home schooling ideas for children We have huge fucking breakthroughs win with fucking which is why we hold it so daily to us because it's it's wear its way the best most impactful stuff will happen. And if you if you use it like we do as a vehicle to abundantly. Bring in breakthroughs as well as getting hips. A pleasure and become way more connected with your partner. It's just it's a loft changer. And yeah and this is what we want to share with you. This is what we've been doing for years and what we've discovered we discovered this because our you know sex life of vapid with been together for ten years and you know you hit a point where things can dry up and that is the narrative were sold. This is the cultural narrative that you get married. You have kids and everything you lose everything and we were like it happened and then we were like but were not having it. So how can we heal. How can we cobble together. Our lives and figure this out. And we've done it over the course of many years and we've distilled many lessons from this. We weren't doing well even before we had fox and that's true. Yeah yeah for sure it was. It was fading out and we both pissed off at each other. The bone many levels wasn't working everything else in life working super well and this is what we hear also so much i love my par- now best friends. We parents together. We do all these cool stuff together. Everything's great but this one thing that we kind of need to work on. We need help with that. It's like yeah that one thing is the biggest fucking thing. Yeah and there's so much pain because we all have such big stories around what sex means and what it's meant and how we've been treated and and how we show up and our body shame and there's just so much in an actual physiological discomfort so it's you know it's no wonder that it so fraught And we want to offer you know. We want to offer a different perspective and we offer at by showing the truth of ourselves and showing what we're doing so i think without any further ado i think we should have sacks i want you to. I want you to do a body check in now. Because i really want to see what you're feeling now and then i want to check in on like what we're feeling afterwards so i'm feeling some tension in my jaw and in my shoulders. I'm feeling a little bit scattered like a little bit in that upward energy in my head and in my chest exactly what i was gonna say been juggling too many different things today and feel a deep like i feel a warm love for you and a kindness but i don't feel a magnetism yet like i feel disconnected like i see you. But it's through a foggy piece of glass like that. The nourishing love of an old friend. Ready to smash the glass though and really see ewing close cool. That sounds awesome. I'm very very up for that. Yeah i feel scattered. I don't feel feel of lay present and kind of grounded in my buddy of people. Say that i feel yet. Didn't do any work out of physical practice today. That probably didn't help me. But i'm gonna do physical practice now. Oh all right so. I just took off my ugh boots. And then i started to think about getting dressed and then i thought should we be recording. This and i don't know the answer so we'll just record it. It's already recording so so we're in the living room. We got some candles lit because some low level lighting in my One of my products which is putting a color changing thing which is putting out an pink glow right now since a really clean in our living room because we did a huge declutter the other day in our lovely cleaner was around today. So it feels really pristine. I'm taking my pants off. Slices kind of bent over holding a microphone. Because we didn't have tend to use these microphones in this way and taking off her jeans with one Which is all the pennies off hand. I didn't know you could do. A list is one that i can. Of course you deal. I mean you're going to get your holiday with one hand holding on mmediately called. I guess. I guess i just found to store. According i felt compelled to interesting. Because i'm not sure like we could just record everything. It just seemed strange to stop when i could still be recording talking about things i think. Probably in the future. We will record everything. Just know these microphones. We're going to need like wireless Not lapel mics. because we weren't have a lapel. Pieces near the headline wireless headsets. We can be like yeah. I'm naked. I mean i gotta say girl you look fine still got it definitely good. I like that. You're just hanging out in your sweat suit on the ground right now and a whole so. Take your clothes off. The medium toll nike sweatpants Taylor pretty fun. I love that lockdown leisure look he opted though at least there's no stains or holes on these ones and i appreciate that. I think we just get naked like this. don't we. yeah usually which is just one hand. Usually he's both hands visit fire called. I was gonna say we've just been through winter Normally i would make nice out pink sofa which may be. We have to share a photo of that people can understand how fun it is It's right next to the open. Fires pretty good lovemaking situation and we've got our sex blanket on top six blanket. Which only lacy and i know is the sex blanket nature now in yemen funds. Make a dan or let's put on the rug and like throw blocks do something with it and like no baby no fucks enough that longer life. Okay take things off take up. I need to be going then now. I'll wait and thanks to all of my years of yoga training. Diab manala your microphone. While you take your sweater off the would help. oh it's davos advert as mond. Hey it's lacy. I have an offer for all of you women out there. It is my free masterclass a ninety minute deep dive into your sexuality your turn on your creativity and your purpose. You do not want to miss this. I have taught this class to thousands of women around the world who have cheered as they've learned sacred triangle theory for pleasure and power womb energetics for understanding their story lines their creative potential power language for articulating oneself. And actually speaking up. And saying what you mean so much value inside of this class. I'll also be giving you the opportunity to work with me. Further in of my signature program school of whole. This is where i have helped. Hundreds of women receive monumental. Transformation from surprise desired pregnancies healed marriages new career paths. You name it. We have gone there what you need to do right now. Is to hop. On over to lacy haynes dot com slash masterclass sign up for the free class and make sure you show up doors are only open twice a year and they're open april nineteenth through twenty six each joined the free master class. You'll learn so much and then you get to decide whether you want to continue this journey with me. So go to lacy haynes dot com slash masterclass right. Now save your seat. I cannot wait to see you there so we've been seeing each other. Yeah you are back. And we're both naked or both standing in the living room. Naked holding microphones. This is pretty cool. How it works. So we've been getting naked for ten years. I think part of being delegated to sex as a practice in this work is that. Because i guess you're cultivating like your independence turn on in sexual energy. It's like much easier to stay sexually interested in your partner and find them attractive. What's going on you doing. Some strange stretches right now dig around incapable pews a very long time but you have. Yeah i have i did. I did like last week. I'm not gonna trim on growing mon- out you. Are you going for that. That bush look keep you warm is gonna get a surprise when i go back from my next lomilomi gonna stop short like a baby seal. Do you want to sadden intention or anything right now. My intention is to really enjoy myself. How are you positioned right now On mondays on the sex blanket and you are on the. It's love island as turner remember the name of her pink sofa zone. Love island looking lovingly. And i'm good. Enjoy some really great sex right now and i nor license to enjoy it too. I'm ready to receive. It's so interesting to hold a microphone and have you making between my legs. Just be in the experience of it happening and not in any performance but just being like the peer pleasure. I'm going to send my down. Sometimes in these moments. I think well. I'll definitely never be president even though i don't belong to a country where i could be a president but that's something that flashes through my mind i've got some of the rage. Rising in me has almost like this pent-up experiences ping might too busy and turning to my body and then the subtle kind of tender repetitive experience of you licking me as as like bringing out all of this fucking super rage but also rage the world rage for so many like off could just fucking throw this mic right now and then like the pain of recognizing how fucking closed. My heart is and that. I'm gonna have to let it fall open and the fucking immensity of to armouring my heart right now and then all of that amidst the subtle repetitive like fully loving sensation of you just like kissing and licking pussy at just fucking village like so much right now has experienced definitely's and new to me and i think this happens. Were like things become like overwhelming. Sometimes and then we either numb out or we don't know what to do with the experience we don't know how to use these moments like to actually process and actually hold space for all of the contradictory fucking intense fucking life things so what. I'm doing right now. As i'm just letting my inner gays instead disconnecting from sensation which is what we're kind of habitually doing in our daily lives to silence our bodies so we can keep going keep going keep talking doing instead. Of silencing my body. I'm going to amplify my body's receptors. I'm going to choose to experience pleasure and let my heart be fucking loved right now. It's gonna be like by big unraveling point Yeah i just wanna fucking push against adam. Clenching my jaw stretching my face out like it's not on. It's not in packaged or pretty. It's actually just true. It's the true desire of the body to release. This is the the recognition of what's happening on the the bodies level. And i think often we choose especially for the feminine to you know disconnect or become performative in this moment or two compartmentalize any of the riding sensations or not even know what they are not even know how to how to greet them and so leading the brise leading the rise and then all of that in the face of pleasure and love so love of pleasure is what's allowing me to face the disconnect and to face the pain and this is you know often. I find for me as the pain of living a life. That's not fully in alignment. You know still existing within the patriarchal structures in terms of like doing too much over failing my life trying to parent and work and the not being that joyful love space as a grounded. Way of being really flynn's like offering this right now. This is like a josh. Drove like deep healing. That he's giving me. It's like fucking therapy and then i choose whether i'm willing to receive at an how much i'm willing to receive. Am i willing to accept his. Fucking unconditional love right now. Am i willing to let myself be seen you know in here. It's like the the the staying in the brathwaite. The that the staying in the connection to the experiential in the actual experience of the connection the touch the licking the kissing the hands on my legs and had so easy in these moments instead to come into the mind to think about it and right now. I'm just actively choosing to feel until at myself open to a broader expansive feeling. We often only allow ourselves a certain degree of pleasure simultaneously myself to soften my belly to soften myself to g benz let can receive that. I can fully receive. Obviously this requires a deep deep level of trust. What's your experience right. Now you're talking. A law assuring some some really great insights. I'm just wondering this is the first hour we've tried this so we didn't know how this is going to affect their experience. But i was just wondering how how it's affecting your experience of pleasure right now and yeah. It's actually not expecting it. I feel like i'm rising in really coming into sensation. I want to know how it's affecting you like. How do you feel right now. What's your experience. It besides us documenting. What's your experience right now. Few really great somehow licking your pussies like heroin for may dislike it just makes me zone out and go super common in his meditative space space of this com giving and makes me happy. Yeah you have grounded right now. You're really relaxed. I'm having a really nice time okay. Continue has actually something so free about having the space to talk this out right now as i experienced them am using my voice to articulate my experience and i feel quite liberated an funnily enough. It's actually enhancing my pleasure. Maybe not enhancing. But it's not inhibiting at all. It's it's facilitating It's also so fascinating that ought flip into the performative at all. It feels so safe and easy. I can really feel it. All anger just laughed. My body. Now gonna fully all weaved in state my pussy with his pleasure with your mouth with my heart. Not everything's opening up and releasing everything to be mixed up on on just like software and longer such an interesting experiment. Yeah now finding a desire to remind myself that i'm safe. I'm safe that my pussy be licked. We saw let myself fully open up our baby. Just walk up i go. This is the point where lacey runs upstairs. Little boy rookie. is almost eleven months now oh lacey's walking away nude but with their raids on. That's quite a look. Keep him some birth milk for a minute or two. And then she'll be back. It's quite interesting to navigate life when the baby and you are in pleasure and or less no talking about screw the mood. Screw whatever just have your sex and be let it be. What what it's going to be and if you get disturbed partway through a baby. That's waking up. It is what it is feed into anything else or anything to emotional about it. Let it be and then then will discontinue an emission. Something that i wanted to share at this point is we want show how recording ourselves like this is going to affect us. But you've heard lacy say already that it's kind of almost turns around more and helps her probably to come into like authentic space of pleasure because she can tell you the connections between sexual who center and your voice and for the feminine When you look at the vocal colds and the vulva going on inside. They actually look very much like each other. So the whole story that lacey can share with you much more debt later. Date also familiar. Doesn't feel of course the microphones here. We know this is being recorded and mobile shed but it doesn't feel like there's an extra peasant a room on doesn't really feel very awkward and actually feels for lycene and i very authentic and we know that by sharing. This is going to help a lot of people so this is something. That's very close to our heart had made assuming today and they sit us very brave begin a shared intimate details of your sex life on the air like this but we just know so many people that are going to be helped by this and most of them will never reach out to us thou share with their friends. No-go my gosh look at what these to doing and we just really hope that we already know about. We continually hope that just by being really truthful to ourselves and really authentic with what. We're doing everything that was sharing here. We'll help people and this is our way of contributing back to the world back to old relationships that have been through the Difficult time in this past year and edges hopefully give you some more inspiration. Some more tools along the way to try and experiment and line and i always say that we're we're all the work in progress has certainly true for him myself but it's really good to just acknowledge that and not just enjoy the journey as thoughts for me. I've been those busy off the mark for a minute lacey's back. She's got a robe on she's very cold. is springtime. We're not sure if we should let the fire. Next time we will so you can hear the crackle in the background now. We show continue great time. Oh the something super cool and educational about nece like he syrups often takes way. It's not porn and it's not sex education like a whole new genre. This is what. I want to pack. Something that's totally not. W4 as flynn sat back. I'm in my robot. Chilly here back on after we pass through the honeymoon phase in relationships head into a potential for sex to become something beyond the courtship intellect whole other realm of Hailing an expansion and helping process. That davis things inside of you. Trauma pain uncertainty out to connect hits into things like no therapy. No other practice can do. Because it's trips you bear. Has you and your most vulnerable connecting you into the energy that brought you here sexual energy energy that we're all made of. I really knew right now. Off of a sphere. So what you're doing right now. She says the sieve harry. Flynn oh fuck. I still surprise me. Oh my god. Oh fuck off. I i if i can squirted. They're a bit shit. Got i just my fucking pussy. Healing the whole fucking world on my mouth was like a portal and i just felt fucking sachs this energy of lobby just fucking healing all. Oh my heart just cracked up and fucking oh so is through love that my pussy all through my pussy that my heart fucking ruptured and just fully expanded on god. Holy shit thank you gift. Oh my god you look ready to give more. Fo- i want to get ruined lacey's assuring towards as if i should say something meaningful at this point just say anything meaningful. It's just. I've been talking the whole time and i just i don't know we don't even know. What do i shed some wisdom on your way taking a rookie walk Maybe i in a bit of a different vibe. I feel like just having sex right now. Find fact let's do it. She says nothing's all the my hope. Microphone it just hold the mic and see what happens the more. I just wanna see you. Just breathe blood. You had a nice orgasm hartzell. And how do you feel younger in your face. Yeah so you thought was a good thing acting we know. I think i felt like it was very authentic and true and now feels a little bit performative. Perhaps does it. What has performative to you just so we're talking so much of hell wouldn't usually talk so much. How can it be informative. But like still just explore this idea of of talking. You know like with like you can talk without performing you know loose. And she just told her experience doubtedly. We're not put on a show and just didn't know where we're going to record the whole thing like this but they're lacey's just tugging on my cock to get me from semi to vary situation and go side of her pussy so we're fucking now. There's something much more vulnerable about. This feels really strange. Before i was having an experience and i was just narrating now. We're looking at each other and we're both holding legs and it does feel if any just become a little different for me now as well feels great looks great. Why don't we put them down and just see what comes through. Let's down that my extent. I just keep thinking about our podcast manager. Told you we're gonna go there. We're going. They're going there right now. I just want a heart. Space you are holding the mic for me. Sneakily took his mike something that comes up a lot from us For us even the practice breath while he my life office too casual remind to breath. It's always very useful for your partner because it really situation charles. He really need to come back into your deep breathing. Yeah we often feel like the mood the mood. I mean we have so much to say about this that it can be irrevocably locked but in this moment right now you know what changed and it became strange than we came back to the body back to the breath at back to each other. Now here we are. I just want you to come into your heart while you're doing this now. So she's laixi really pushing them the hot space which really helps may to feel the physicality of a hint pushing against my heart to made me realize that i need to just be aware of that space right now. It's very easy when year. Fucking your wife who you really really like to feel many different things at once so easy just to be in the palace energy but ascending the energy circulating through the heart bringing it until love. I'm having a lot of really big things happening right now. So my jaw just got stuck. I could actually opened my mouth surly like part of this expression. Feeling that i had this fear of my ut is. I'm really like you know. We're obviously very deep into working. The sexes healing practice. So i'm experiencing the fear of the. Uti the twenty year significance of this having returned and then my jaws simultaneously locking them was really scary and staying in the safety right now as as beg. I am alright right. I'll ride led a moment to some stuff that's different to have insisted to gore's all right if you're loving what you are hearing and you're like yes this could be for me. We want to introduce you to our program sacks elevated what you're listening to in this episode is basically the culmination of all of the work we've done and then we've taught thousands of people around the world to podcasts. The results yeah. It's the work in action leaving results and what we've learned is how to communicate how to express our needs how to rewrite our own stories around sex and ultimately how to understand how fundamentally important it is to have a sexual relationship with yourself and then share that with your partners that you can both have a fucking epic life. Hanna understand what you actually like. Annetta communicate that to someone else so they could do it too. If you can express what you want in the bedroom you can express what you want across all other facets of life. This is about sex but you know what it's about every part of your life it's about your career your family who you wanna be in the world and so we take this entry point of sex in your relationship and we make it kind of the nucleus we help you heal at expanded and then your life goes boom big six epic pleasure having the power the confidence to ask for what you want. Yes so if this is making a go yeah yeah. Yeah and we'd bet is then you can go and register for our program sex elevated right now you can get in there with thousands of other people and you can begin your journey with your partner head of a to lyceum. Flynn dot com slash. Podcast you get. The show nights does links to our calls sex elevated. check it out. We want to see you in their media. Changing your life right now right now. We'll see you in there. Go and do it now. We'll see you say we love you goodbye so lacy just went for a moment to have we very concerned about this spiritual. Uti coming back for a second round. Because she didn't want to take any medicine while she took hold tentative stuff. But i didn't want to take any medically prescribed things so two three weeks. She's holding up the triple finger. So we don't know what's going to happen. Hopefully it doesn't come back around because that would be a major drag. I don't think you will come back around. There's just an energy in my body that's being like asked be really like just really conscious of ten year relationship freeze right now. I'm seeing even knew. And it's working for the first time i'm gonna off. Aw shit sui display lacy slash. We decided that maybe super long mission his though she needed right now and now is already in a very hot and pleasurable space so instead of easing things back and changing breathing and changing direction. We decided to just good through the come right there holding mike just catching my breath a little bit. Why don't we clean ourselves up and get cozy. Then we can chat about it though. Sounds nice. I feel like i want to have a on my special gaps cup of tease her turmeric and ginger and a tiny bit of honey with coconut oil on top. I wanna rob brownie and chai tea rod stewart. What about those brownies. That i made fee yet in the freezer. And the freeze yeah. I'll just eat my other. One and then fund made me a full tray rob brownies for mother's day even though he can't eat them because he's on gaps min sacrifice. Okay we'll be back. Oh my goodness it's giveaway time so we just launched this new podcast and we're giving away some free love. Lie is if the love that would be given my isn't enough already. We want to give you some stuff all right so basically what we're trying to do is we're trying to get a lot of five star reviews. People say you're not supposed to ask people for five star. Reviews subscribes. But i want to ask people for what i want. I want five star review. Were direct people. I want you to follow and subscribe and want you to share this. So if you offer us a review we are going to enter you in a giveaway to win some sweet shed and you can read all about that at lacy in flynn dot com slash. Podcast get a breakdown of what we're giving away. It's real stuff. Yeah stuff you're gonna like. Yeah don't just glaze pass this part like go. Give us a review. do it right now. Pause this gives us a review an comeback. We're watching we're waiting. We'll be dawar. We got you for waiting to her. Yeah right the five star. Ding ding ding. Oh we felt. The five stars is coming in las vegas so much. Now you're in the giveaway. Oh my god you could congratulations. Her name is in all my god. You did it you should turn you did a twice katie. It's you see johnny. Thanks bye we love you all but all right back. I just ate peanut butter toast with coconut oil and cinnamon. And i feel quite good and we were in the kitchen and i think we both had a momentary deer in headlights where we almost couldn't believe what we just did. I felt that way high fat that way in one way it was so simple. We did what we normally do. We held these black things. We'd long cables of the end but in another way it did change the experience but not kind of drastically in actually so true to us for another reason apart from the sharing the sex and breaking down and trying to help people and all that in that is just totally lost it is then sex. Brian hewlett cleveland countdown. She'll be six brain now gonna go to the other point about this. That makes it so authentic to us is that it's so simple and so powerful we really strive for simplicity in living room in a business with a messaging everything. We prefer simple and potent. It's so much easier to actually have sex and to just let people see what we're talking about all these years to actually like that's the most minimal listed approach is to be like here it is it feels like a threshold like we've just done something irrevokable. I mean once this is out in the world. There's something very final about that. And then simultaneously. It feels so liberating because to do this. It takes away any vestige or last remnant of shame or uncertainty or doubt around this thing that we're sharing and creating i mean it just is what it is. This is the act that brings us onto being it. Sex it's pleasure its connection. It is crazy that we all have such a deep wound around sex this act that is the essence of our lives that we you know that this will be shocking to many people and yet we are two people to puzder. We have kids. We've made kids. We've come from parents who had sex to make us like everyone's spending their whole lives in pursuit of saxon connection and love and here we are showing it as to you know consenting adults and it feels revolutionary and simultaneously totally normal and nothing nonchalant easy and also it feels. It feels like stepping run edge. Lacy sit in the kitchen that she felt like she discharged in the ocean but didn't know how to swim. It's cut really for us right now. We're gonna simplicity but also a massive nest to it Like what did we just do is have. We gone too far even for ourselves and we have pretty fine with sharing a lot of stuff but we just looking at each other. But i feel like this is. This is just hit. We had this idea and it still feels true. And i feel like the more that we do it. The less the microphones and the and the teachings jewelry sex gonna make an impact on the experience. So less is trolling it. Yeah and i mean you know. The show isn't entirely this. This will happen periodically. the show is about tons of other things associated and around sachs's not just showing inside of our our sex but this is an entry point and also coming back. Tell me how you feel now. What's your experience of your body now. And this is the most important part of slow up with. I feel i definitely feel like probably a lot. Younger key ally hunger or feel so much more clear i feel less stressed and less scattered. I feel very calm. Which is nice because of been dealing with a lot of internal rage lately trying to understand that because it was very out of character rage feelings. Come up for you during sacks at all. I feel like probably. It was even more heightened because we hadn't had sex for three weeks. Whatever it just felt like what you were saying there during our session that you heart was closed. Mahat was so closed and so so buried dandy but just saying you there and seeing your beauty again and your openness. I feel like that. Just helped basically illuminate my heart again. Mahat heartache heart my heart in a new in a new way so you feel you know. We all say listen. I took all the tom about this. Not enough words for things we say can make all the time fucking connected. I feel more connected with you may never knows what that means. But we gotta come up in different nuance towards for the shanghai. Just south so important for the intricacies of this. So i just i feel like a missed. You feel like. I hadn't seen you for ages. We've been living in the same house but she's been working. Parenting and the lack of sexual connection is just left quite a chasm in life and it we talk about this and calls that you have to build a bridge back to your partner to to keep that connection intact. And i feel like that's exactly what has happened now. I feel like just seeing you laying there so open and beautiful my feel edges so much more. Love view of philip probably fell in love with you and just a little notch. More just than it was. Definitely different with the microphones but it was very special and a laugh. I felt the same this deepening of love. And i think it's because where you know in this ten years of relationship right now. It's it's upon us and i'm i'm feeling this and feeling this connection to you when i first met unum seeing that person in you away but also who become an who becoming as we embark on this next chapter of our lives and i sign us a mirror lake your resistance to let your heart be opened than the reminder when i was reminding you you know we kind of had our own private moments and set to mike stem whispering there and i had whispering so you all y'all and i was feeling your heart and just reminding you how much i love you and and to feel love to love yourself to let me love you. I just feel so much how that changed the momentum of your energy through your pelvis into your heart new fox me from your heart and you came into lavin and i loved you and you loved yourself and your love came back to me and i felt profound and then we come out the other side now and on a body level my shoulder. There's no tension in my shoulder or jaw. My heart is so warm and like heavy in my body instead of high and flattery. it's grounded like feel really anchored in my physical body. The mancha's feels really warmer now too. I think there's just so much love. We're smiling at each other so they we go. That feels like the roundup. Let's be honest. I kinda wanna see if we can get an a bit of the defiant ones before we hit the. Hey we've already pushed it fast and thirty this wall past my current bedtime so might as well party this night through boy oil. That's hilarious for all of you at home lessening. Obviously we've taken massive journey. And i'm sure you've experienced some hot moments and some surprises and maybe some things that connected to you and where you're at and what matters most is where you're at on your journey and that you're perfectly placed where you are and whatever nuggets speak to you and feel the most impactful those are the ones you start to unpack right now so looking at your life and your relationship to sacks and how you feel when you hear these things and let the things that practical you that trigger you that make you onshore. Let those the entry point as well to your deepest healing because it's in discomfort that we learn so much about ourselves ayman yeah. We hope that in a showing up in this way we helped to liberate your sex. And elevate your sykes and bring you into a deeper communion who you are which is a deeply sexual alive extraordinary person who has the capacity for infinite pleasure and turn on to live a life that you totally fucking love And that's what it's ultimately about louisville off of pleasure and wonder and if this has helped you and you wanted to hear more please leave us a review because this is a new podcast and reviews a to get. This is quite a number of podcasts out. There and people have only said man of ear. Tom every day but bunch of reviews really gets us off to a good start. So we've shed the love with you. Say nancy tend to share the love with us. I'm sure we'll to proper out trout. Maybe this will be aro- maybe this can be true. Cicero troth and all so subscribe. I don't know how you do that. But i'm sure there's something you hit where you subscribe and then you get notifications when we dropped new podcasts. And that will give us favorability the algorithms. 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THE PUZZLE CALLED LIFE | Warrior Week: Parables From the Pit | EP 068

WARRIOR WEEK

1:00:36 hr | 1 year ago

THE PUZZLE CALLED LIFE | Warrior Week: Parables From the Pit | EP 068

"All right. All right. All right. Welcome to this episode of Woody week parables from the pit my guess, Blake's lawn. Blake will come to the show, bro. Thanks, man. Thanks for having me were you. We sixteen and were you week forty eight six sixteen five six shit forty forty worry? Agreed not thirty weeks apart. Crazy in between massive changes there. And then came back in a cyst at forty eight. Oh you did. Okay. So I knew there was something went for you. Yes. So all right. So, yeah. Since one but sixteen and then came back to thirty six sit down relax, and we're about to we're about to get into very interesting show. That didn't know how lost I in. While you're. And we are back where week sixteen men are. Let's go back to. Let's go back to that. First time we picked up the phone and you contacted warriors. They listen broad. I gotta come here. What God you attention Blake, and more importantly, why man? So I'll never forget the, the whole kind of breakdown of how it happened as era hope I'd seen him kind of transformed before that. And I knew something was different. I couldn't tell what it was in. Ironically, gear it actually showed up and people, you may know in my Facebook way, this twenty fifteen and I was like, all right. I just I saw some stuff at friend back in any accepted. I think he didn't have thirty thousand Facebook followers or whatever. But then all of a sudden it was like the next day assault. The video and he shared the video, and I was like holy shit. This is this is what I've been looking for an ad. That's always in a blaze were on the outside. Everything looked amazing, right? Business looked great. Making tons and tons of money ended just had nothing just did the Forbes thirty on thirty at that put on the inside though, hours ours. It's fucked up. I was miserable. But the I was thinking about even today when I came back in those actually Laguna today is kind of like emotional looking back out while was right there at the old like age Q, and I walk bother just to, like, feel it, and I was miserable on the inside I'd so much pain. But I did not even really know what the problem was. I just really resonated with the video really resonated with what GARRETT'S message was at that's on and looking back. I was like almost emotional today, just even walking back through their kind of thinking about that. And it's crazy. Because if we roll back, it was generally, it was January two thousand fifteen that's where where you worry week was, what January two dozen fifteen belief fifteen or sixteen kidding, remember, now, it may have been over fifteen in January sixteen right? It's like yeah. It was. It was fifteen. Yeah. January fifteen sixteen and then 'cause yeah and so. How old were you then so thirty six now was that thirty three thirty three? So I, I remember specifically. You. You were thirty successful in business. You are in a relationship at that time which you seem to be happy and successful in at that time, literally there was like, yeah, you had, you know you had ten fifteen pounds here and there. But it wasn't like crazy and spiritual, you Warren that disconnected. So, like, literally, it was like okay like on the outside. Nothing looked wrong at all. And yet you talk about on the inside and it wasn't until what do we forty six that we even looked on the inside because sixteen was more of empowering. Experience forty six more more more of an indepth finding the inside. But even after like, and we'll get to that. And even after looking at forty six like there, there was nothing fundamentally wrong with, like, would you lie for that? There was nothing wrong with the past, you know, great parents growing up. Awesome environment. There was no trauma drama in the past that you could link yourself assay while, you know, my life deviated, because of that, right? Which brings us back to sixteen unlike like now, there were sitting back and like interesting enough looking back both you and I much wiser at the Blake that came into sixteen. What, what was this thing because, because it's interesting that you mentioned what the fuck was this inside thing that was not happy because there's a lot of thirty two year old dudes that are out there that feel exactly how you feel den today. You're wiser much wiser to look back. What would you say that could have been a thought about this a lot in? So I'll never forget. It was like this emptiness this aloneness in this feeling that was fucked up, right? Always thought that I was crazy in. So in the way people always try to put me in this box out always either be too intense or not intense, or in. I feel like I was literally crazy would I could not ever put words on what that pain was that, that inside banging that, that constant you know, just wound up as a top. And so I would hide it not hide it not hide it, and then what would happen, you know, build up, and guess what? They're not fucking explode on people, and those that I loved, and I really think that, you know, what really resonate with music, you know, GARRETT'S video initially kind of put words into what the pain. I was feeling was it's not just new out fucked up. I didn't know what exactly was wrong as knew something wasn't good. And I knew that there's a lot of things that were just just totally not right at all. And you know, just the pain of business the pain of the pressure. The pain of everything switched. Just got balled up and bottled up in longer. I wince the more people just kind of said some wrong with you work too much. You worked you are you got this? You got that. And so I try to back it down. And then ultimately have the inside just build up in Boyle up until exploited on people out loud, people at work with my family and looking back, Manala just wound up like a giant, you know, fucking top really that just waiting to explode do it. And then guess what? I do that and not feel guilty about it. And I don't know if shame and blame and all this stuff. And so as vicious cycle of pretending Kana that everything was all right. And it really wasn't at all. When you look back at, at that time, what was, what would you say, particularly was missing in your life because you, you, you had you had money. So it was. And that, you know, you had to struggle for money, obviously, you had to work hard and business businesses business. You have to be shot in business. Right. So that took a lot of energy and focus. You had a, you know, you had your girlfriend that you say whatever you had your your, your significant other den, and you like you had status. So what, what the fuck was missing because was was it was it other dudes in your life? That was missing was there. Another was their friends. Like, really guys where you can share some of the stuff that is going on with you. Right. Or was that missing? Would you say so I think for me it was just the, the lack of anyone that ever understood the amount of pain now going through right from from a business perspective, and people just screwing you over and all these things that come with running a business at a high level. I feel like that always just no one understood. Right. And you could try to talk to people that were my friends, and they had they had no clue. Right. They would never. They say they would understand. But ultimately, they would never really truly understand the. Pain on the insect. Right. All the letdowns all the different things that you went through and really kind of the sacrifice ASU made to, to be able to, to grow business like that. So for them was like, hey, man. What are you complaining about you, making money, right? That they to say it in a way to hurt you. But that's what the limitation of understanding was like no one understand, or understood like the hard decisions, the conversations of letting goal someone that has worked for years, and, or hiring new person. And then realizing that fog you paid all this money, and it just didn't win anywhere. And, and so many other decisions that are made daily. Right. Or expectation that a set from clients and returning clients, and, and conversations that are taking place about you. That is not true in the market blaze between clients cases that you have to fuck and feel that you have to put all your energy to defend yourself in a place like, why, why would I fuck and even the fen while compliance is another thing being compliant and, and. Just legal and getting sued and, you know, having someone like just attack you out of nowhere. So all that pain that, that, that comes with owning a business, and also dealing with fucking payroll men, like every two weeks is like, who fuck rights to write that amount of check out right over and over and over and all that think about it. It's an emotional discharge I at one point as a business owner, and you're like, okay this one I'm doing, like, right. There's my purse, I'm doing this. I'm putting food on the table for others. And you know, this is why I'm here, but you can't you, you cannot deny that it's still an outgoing amount out of your Bank account. Right. Which if it's visible to you, it can kind of fuck with you. That's why most business owner kind of handle it to, like payroll department and it becomes like this invisible thing. Because if it's constantly in your face you constantly get triggered and you're gonna fight. Find someone is not doing the work in the company and say mother fucker overnight, a fucking bang. You. He was like that, because of that came from and got a decent childhood nothing like crazy yet. But I, I have been on my own financially since seventeen and so I had to start from zero. And so I think there's a huge fear pressure of his giant wave that, that never feels that goes away to matter how big you grow. And whatever it is that I don't ever want to go back to zero. And so that pressure built up and builds up, then obviously through lawsuits, and legals and all these different things that you deal with I just felt alone in our trying to think like what was the there's two massive big takeaways, I had from sixteen in think, for me the biggest one by far was, I think that I got permission to finally be all of me. Right. The dark side in the light side, and for me, I'll just going back and thinking about that is I used to be ashamed. The dark sat right? Because what would happen is by the time out ever, let it out. It would be such a, a rage, and anger, and that, that I would nuke everybody around me. And so I had this fear and set Bal Bal up and then explode. And so they're not go back to try to be the nice guy that they wanted to fit me in that box. What is horrid to be the good, businessman or anybody? That's a a big player. Whatever you wanna call it while you're trying to it's a hold that back. I'll never forget, you know, two or three evolutions that we went through that really allow me to have all of that. And I had this shoe Jehad like you know what fuck it? I'll be all me to good into bed and from that day on Phil like a my entire life was different just finally having the permission to do. So in allow me to kind of see all that and actually had lunch with a friend recently who was normally for that long. And he's like do I've just seen the biggest change if you ever since that will your thing. And now it's like just so you know, I finally had permission from myself to love myself. Yeah. It because I was shamed of who that person that came out was. But once I was able to give myself permission to harness that power in that person who is the dark where who gets shit done, when things are tough, and you have payroll and you have the legal. I finally did that. And then all the sudden I felt freedom now felt you know, a lot of that for even obviously, I've finally feel like I wasn't crazy, because I did legitimate think like I'm fucked up man. Like, and then all of a sudden, we got around the bunch other guys are also fucked up. Right. And right, right. We're like a brotherhood of the guys who felt like that. And finally, there was something there that could help you understand that pain understand that process in kind of really make sense of all this chaos ahead my life. And so that was kind of one of the biggest house for me as a whole. So sixteen was was definitely. I remember that, that was definitely a shift in sixteen for you and just just, just okay being you. And, and, and you walked into this as a humble student, and you continued with us for a period of time, and I think a year or something right? You were almost inside of the game with us. So I did a we had the. Empire we empire for a while. We kingdom empire for at least a year, I guess it was a year later. And so, so you went on, and I remember like you were weaponized, right? And you were patronize you know, you like you definitely find yourself and, and we like you were doing. You're saying you're always like fan. But then there was there was a spirit of time when you not that active inside of the group about your you always a distance offend. Right. And. Well, what would you back where you con- where you're con-? Yes, initially it was just kind of, like I think there's a change or whatnot. Would it happened in? I just step back for a little while there. But I can feel the energy of not being plugged him. Right. And there was there was something missing in regards to connection. I was in these other like real estate space who had real estate masterminds, or whatever there is nothing that really every kind of helped you, you know, get back to that association that we have here that connection that we have here. And so as we're con- that brought him back and after speaking with you, and I'll may not a new rows, right? Beco-. So, you know. We, we can you being here and even inside of this conversation today, like the Pat that brought you here, sitting on this chair was never fucking coincidence. It was not, because although sixteen everything look good. But deep down inside. There was a lie in your life that you weren't even fucking aware of, and you're rolling with that you were rolling with that. And it was a massive huge lie in your life, that was kinda hijacking. But it is it is strange because it's as if you always knew it, right. You know there was. Some people may call it hesitation. But I think you there was a part of new that knew about that. And that's why that part has always like, kind of commended you too. Take your time. Right. And you tell us what that was as we're talking about that. But it's important to link that because truly, you know, people say what is, what is what do you like warrior? Is this conversation of the truth? Right. Warrior is, it's just a pathway for Mant pick up the fucking mirror and to look at himself every couple of miles. Right. Right. And so although it was massive amount of group, and I was witness to that mass grove in sixteen and massive shift. There was an absolutely transformational shift from the guy that came to worry week sixteen week later and who, who was operating, and who was becoming more, and more. Right. But yet inside of that, even the advice you were getting from from Garrett and all the other guys was to actually go and act upon the one thing that deep down inside you knew, but it wasn't manifested yet. So bring us to clarity on that, because that's the important piece of the puzzle in our wanted to. There's actually choose separate ones in that, where we forty six I didn't even really know I guess, you could kind of word that has buried them, you know, like it was a new someone zehr. There's two things on their forget. When we talk about the pit to there's two big ones in, when we went to the pit, and it was so damn cold and those nights, and we, we had the fire, and we went to that process in, when I close my eyes, I shared this with you since then. But I saw my dad and literally my dad passed away at that point. He's been dead for three years. But there's a whole history there of what happened when my parents got divorced. My dad cheat on my mom. He wasn't showing up as a husband and father and on her the next thing you know, gone within one day, and it, obviously fucked me up a little bit. I had to grow up that was seventeen years old. That's that point when I kind of had to grow up, and he ended up going with the lady yet and affair with who? Who obviously did not like me. And so we kind of had this tumultuous relationship of trying to connect with my dad for years. And I went there and keep trying and she will go like slammed doors and make this big scenes. I'll never forget the girl house Dayton. At tom. She said, why do you keep doing this and said, I just said, I just don't want to regret not trying one day, well shortly, and this is years before warrior, she, she created this argument between us, and basically quit speaking, and then all of a sudden, I think two years later got a call. The say, hey, you're dead has got cancer. He's about to, to pass away and so long story short. There is period of like this void. I think I just blocked it all out, emotionally. Well, when visit him in a, you helped them out, you know, he need some, some help on Anchalee did some things, and I thought we'd reconnected beforehand he basically had, like two months, and the, the lady must step onto that Tom created another huge issue, woodland speak to us. He had the he pass away shortly. After would it have a funeral. We had no clothes. No, nothing. She basically just took his ashes and disappear. And so I had this fucked up thing inside of me this, abandonment, this thing that, that I didn't even realize I was curious until we got to the pit and I, I don't know where it was. I hadn't thought about it before. But when we I closed my eyes and that process, you know, evolution so my dad's face look back and it was the craziest thing. And that was something I think that was creating law disconnection anger, and frustration for me for years that you knew outs curing, nearer Z's things that, that from a trust pointed people because that was the person who I looked up to the most that clearly debated me at that point my life, which obviously looking back with a huge blessed because that forced me to level up as a man, and all these things, but I had no idea that that was even still an issue until we went to that process with you. And that was the first part, I think a lot of he told myself was that I was passed all that shit, and that it was really a blessing and all that, that was the story I told myself wasn't to truly investigate the truth. That are real. Is how much that was holding back on the inside. And so from that day on, I filled a huge freedom of that, that they're allowed me to kind of connect deeper in feel like Alice. You know, wanted to be a father, even deeper from from a mainstay point. Yes. And so that was the first part. So it was obviously very powerful for, you know, the whole huge forty six was just a much deeper level. I even know a had a of connection and just fulfilment because I was able to get all that shit off my shoulder. I didn't even know was it was kind of like it hard in my heart, because I went through all that shit as a kid, and it was able to told me back from just that's all I did was Dryden, right, grinded, because I was really kind of masking that fear of abandonment, all these things I went through and sell it the huge Hoffman, the second one to go and go to the I guess. Sure. Because I'm going to link them together. Yet in the second one was guess very similar. Right. Which you kinda helped me come across in the evolution there in. And that was obviously to do with, with my, my gauge meant that I had that was a field engagement. And you know. Obviously, I think the story would relish running that house over that knows okay? In old timidly wasn't, and that was kind of the big that you helped me through layer after layer of working with me. And thank you challenge me and colliding with me. And I, I didn't even know that was it. I had to go back like six times a figure out what that you made me go back and redoing, go back and redo it. And had this thing that ultimate was over what happened in and it wasn't. So we went to that process that I, I realized actually wasn't right that same feeling of abandonment in the fear of connection. All these things in, I'll never forget, I don't know much. We hear about that. But yes, I mean the, the, the, the pressure was taken off me. Once we went there process, and wrote that down on a piece of paper and burn that she was like, the one of the most liberating things I've ever done March our life. So the, the. I'm link this together for you to see that. Like, like dude, you you've been the architect of all of this. Right. So at seventeen your dad leaves the scene. Right. And he leaves the scene under the influence of another woman right? And so the story is like, okay fuck you Joe San well, whatever, okay? I'm gonna go grind on you built. And so there's once once thought a story that gets built Ave was a blessing he left because, you know, it's the positive way of thinking, I built myself, I build this motherfucker, right? Great. Okay. Then on the other side, this is the undercurrent story, undercurrent story is there was a female that took my dad away from me. Right. That's another the undercurrent of the stories that there's female energy that came in stole, my dad away from you get inside of a relationship and end that relationship that you were beginning, you thought that this was just like everything is fine. Everything is okay. And then there was a lot of pressure on you and like why you're not marrying this woman. Why not getting engaged with this woman? The underlying current story was actually, preventing you to do that, which is like, don't trust this fucking female based on the other female that did this, right? So this is the under under at the end of it, when you think about it, and this exactly it's the fucking truth. That was actually, preventing you from making any any further bigger engagement, or commitment, right? The truth was that it was this bitch, that took away your debt. We can put the fingers and say she did it or he did it or it's not a blame thing. It's the fact the fact is that your dad was heavily under the influence of this woman? Now, we can say we'll fuck. It was your dad because at the end of it his responsible I get it. But did he have any other guidance that dad, did you have any other perspective appointed view that that was? He shut down to everything else. He didn't seek for help man. No, you know what I mean? So he stepped into a situation and just like most powerful men in history Caesar. And you know. Under the influence of feminine charm. Right. Like dude. It's, it's, it's a massive influential power right right to the point that you're actually going to stop talking to your kids how to present. So, so he became the complete victim of that story, right? I can't put the finger at your dad, because that's precisely the fucking problem with trying to solve today, which are men are fucking controlled and they're not weaponized hundred percent. And that's what happened. Right. I mean think about it. If your dad was weaponized with some perspective. Some way of thinking he could have reframed a story one hundred percent. That's why I must have played in my head a million times of having the tools that I had today or you know, like man. What if he just fuck it had something like this in that ripple effect that it has in my life? No one has had in my life, and everyone else from mom to it's anything else. And so I looked back at him and he was a week, right? Us week at that point in life. And you know, in your nail it because he had nothing like that there was none of the, the, the processes and tools. And nobody nobody was alone. Yes. Because if there would be at least one guy that I would just have a walk and talk with him. And say did you fucking went to war for your marriage, right? No. You're in this. You're about to leave your wife and your children. Like, are you going to abandon them without even going to that? There was no awakening that was brought to him at all. No one to Colli with him to be willing. Dude, you are fucking up right now in the least Nolan any power. And there's a lot of that you and I cannot blame him. No. And that's that's, that's what's so difficult for somebody else right now listening to this that has been betrayed by their dad, and then like you fuck that fuck that motherfucker did it. And he, he abandoned me, but the point is have you taught about how he felt den? What tools that he had, who was he connected to that guy was fucking alone hundred percent in he had no in afterwards. You know what I collided with him at that point is angry teenager in these things happen. I think that create this energy, where he wasn't able to fully come back and just shame and killed executive, if your dad would be on the podcast right now, it would be me, you and your dad here. And we saw our Brown, like, okay we figured out we're not calling you out. But dude, I know you were fucking loan. What was her dad's name John, John? Here's the fact, I know you were fucking alone and your son, you'll be looking in the eyes. So data, I know you were alone. So why don't you just fucking just wanted you just drop the ball man and just drop the gloves and just share what was holding you back. I can guarantee you. He will list down a number of things that he was guilty of, and he filled the shame of one hundred percent. I mean, there's this in looking back, and obviously having these tools to analyze it, and you could just see where he was aided in. Just for the went back even from from that era or time that it happened. You could just kinda see feel and then all of a sudden you start seeing the pieces come together like hoesch it, this is kind of what was going on there before. And after he was exposed for that. And looking back there's a million different things that should have been done. If you just had the tools that we have the things that we have is crazy to even think about because relook at it. And you know, this, there's no one in this world that knows by you, right? There was an unspoken communication when you went to see him. Yes. And with everything that you're trained and everything that you've done for yourself, not for anybody else. How you weaponize, a sharpen your sensors when you were in his presence could you could you not feel that an unspoken communication of guilt, and shame that he was carrying, oh, I could see even back then almost afterwards. I mean you could just feel it. See it just constant guilt. And I haven't had a conversation look man. Now it's what my dad back. And so. Hold that tots. Now, I'm gonna bring you all the way to forty eight. Right. Because I forty eight you played a different role. I'm forty eight. You came in as part of our certified trainers, and you played the role of training and you went inside of the game observing, what is happening to a man inside of this process, specifically into the pit and coming out of it, and the entire fuck enduring. Right this, this week that he talked about this where week like literally which is one week of our life, given to this fucking process that no one on the world will understand eight, you've been participant in it, or you have contribute to it somehow. Right. Right. And hey, listen, if you're listening on the other side of the podcast, and you're listening to this like these are the parables from fucking warrior week. It's a week that, that men go inside of a place and inside of that place is elated. There are parables and truth. That's gonna come out of it. And we're telling those stories these are stories of the men. The book is out. The book is going to be out next week, okay? Every man leader that talks about all the parables, right? And all these podcasts are talking. About that parallel, so forty-eight you come in as a trainer and inside that game. Now, you can you actually witness the guilt, and shame that adult men were were carrying just like your dad on the other side. Yes. The difference is only time the difference is only twenty years ago. Your dad nineteen years ago. Specific new right? Yes. Nineteen years ago at seventeen nineteen years ago, the guy that you guys that you saw forty-eight into fucking pit were Representative of your dad right hundred percents. Welcome on, I'm carrying his shield guilt, and shame like, but Dan, that were going through a process to identify themselves, and you can see the similarity in a way there's all that guilt, and shame. And actually, at that time as Irving, I had a huge moment, connecting all this, and this is something you've seen of, of how much of everyone's issues in guilt, and shame, even came from their fathers, correct. And their fathers who is like a huge Han even ask. Jesse? That was really. Hey, how many of this is everybody's fathers? And also at mind that thing, and it was such a huge wave of just constant pain, creating more pain pain, creating more train was was it at your Willie because if it was fucking freaky was that at your were you week? When guy, one guy quit, that was the one that I assisted with. So the guy walked away from the whatever the garbage garbage county area. Yes. Okay. You won't tell you what the fuck happened there. You want, you want to tell you exactly what he said. Yes. This is fucked up that it's not fucked. It's fucking miracle that we're talking about this. He, he came to me, he wanted he wanted to quit, and he wanted to quit, and he came to me, and he said the following he was right after the experience of the pit right? He came to me, and he said, hey, man, you know, gear J wide is a fucking frog. The bla-bla-bla seven years ago, I was in class. I know exactly what his teaching. I said, bro. Do see Garrett here tonight. This is has nothing to do with Gary tonight. Right. Right. So. And then he went to the flag say, you don't want men like I have I have no fucking daddy issue. I've, I've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars dealing when my daddy daddy issues, but blah, blah, blah, I said, listen, bro. Like, hey, we're going to give you money back. We'll give you some hot soup tonight, we're going to transport you back in, in, like so anyway, it was a it was a clean cut out meaning that we give him his money back. And we brought them back. He was cool. He just didn't want to continue forward. But it's crazy why he didn't want to continue forward. He didn't want to dress that he don't want to address that one thing which you brought in this conversation is crazy that you were to witness right to see that to see that, that guy in that ultimately could have freedom freedom from from that. And just crazy to see anybody experiencing like this is I mean, it's been so much weight off my shoulders want to see the connection into just fucking dress it. Right. Because he carries it right. It triggered a fuck out of him because he's carrying it. He thinks that he's been hundred. Dollars solving that obviously, it wasn't fucking solve if it triggered a fuck out of it. I remember seeing feeling energy of him. And it was it was. Massively defensive, it was, you know. I could see him feel it. I was obviously right there watching the whole thing go down. And you could see obviously, it's an intense time that everyone goes through. But may, it's so crazy. You're right. So see that connection that too. And it was when I was at that for one, what assisting, it was crazy to have the connection because I'll tell you, when I close my eyes at that night in the pit the last thing I expected to see what's my dad's face. Yeah. I mean, I got chills right now even just just talking about it because it was just the process that finally boiled up and expose. What was truly hold me back in so many years of my life, specifically allowing me to love at a deeper level to connect with someone that, that really truly was trying to connect deeper with me. Yeah so inside of that. Right. We got this undercurrent story and it's actually shoot. Hey, this female energy came in and took my dad away. Right. Right. So now you get an inside of a relationship, what appears to be successful beautiful woman, you know, very popular, whatever like on. The outside looks like a perfect fucking couple. Right. Right. And there is some and then there's the pressure of committing. There was a pressure and you're not understanding where this pressure coming in, because he's not coming in naturally, it there seems to be, of course. Now we can look at it now. But then you were just confused. This seems to be some underlying agenda. Read you did not understand right? Walk into this few years, later out, or two years later into it, even what the pressure that was put on you inside of warriors say, hey, man, if you're committed you gotta commit right? There was an undercurrent. It was a truth that was always pulling you aside said, bro. You know, your own truth and inside of that, obviously, you didn't know that this was it. But this happening two years, you've found out that fuck. This woman has been just like fucking lying to you. And then just abandoning your trust shooting me for for years for years, and then day you were somehow fucked up because like fuck, I've just been betrayed it. But on the other side, somehow proud that you didn't go all in on that because it was one thing that was holding you the right. And there is. I think poor that truth was, and obviously, there's a lot of work that I had to do with my relationship in that process. And look back before warrior man, I was I wasn't asshole. Right. I was I didn't know I wasn't asking about thought just because that produced a lot, you know, obviously, she should just respect me. Right. If we all do that, that story. But the reality was, I had a lot of investing to fix invest in the reality. I was all on trying to fix it. But she has specific caveat of, you know what she had to have or this or that. And I went all in on eventually pressure. You know, went in engaging and months later is exposed that she'd been cheating the entire way before one time. But if in looking back year cure, it gave me freedom from that. He said, here's the deal because there are some things that she was going to change. Basically, had a certain had to be engaged for sheer changing. Hey, call her bluff on that. Right. And so did that all in guy engaging? So that allowed me to be able to, to away move on. At least I thought it was move on, at that time to, to, to basically because I didn't I did go all in. With engage in exposed truly what was underlined that current you're talking about. But if I wouldn't have gone all in finally, and done that it probably wouldn't have expo in our just, you know how this guilt and shame for for not doing that. But there was something inside. And I was not that soon with the voice back, then I was trying to learn and get deeper. And so there's just something that wasn't. Right. It wasn't. Right. I couldn't prove it is, like, well fuck it I'm all in. And since then, you know, just at Seoul's of having warrior, sensitive have been massively different in how just look on any relationship. So, so for years, you operated with this background at. If female energy and stole my dad away from abandoning. So it so you linked female energy to abandonment, and you operate it from a place of not wanting to be abandoned ever. Right. And that's the operating system inside of that. You know, this relationship came in and to your own journey of warrior, and everything that you've become you realize that fuck. Okay. Well, the one story, the one story that, that I had with me. All these years, actually protected me in this process, but today, everything's exposed the girl is exposed the stories exposed, my relationship with that. So all of it came together, and it freed you from the story where you being inside of your relationship right now, and engage with, with, with with your fiance right now. That is purely, like, all of you, right. Story free. Right in right now. Right. Oh, yes. So that wants because once once you weren't able to get the current story, right? Then the Blake that, that is in that relationship is a story free fucking Blake. Yes in the crazy shit is, so had this thing where wanted love deeper, right? Yeah. Figure out why could not look deeper. And I knew that was what needs to have an obviously, having someone who is truly amazing. That was loving deeper. I can feel the wall of me and like I couldn't go, and I'm like, what the fuck man I, I should be going deeper without can't. But it wasn't till that was uncovered in, in forty six that kind of realize holy shit. And there was two of them. Right. And so you helped obviously did the process. I mean it's amazing process whereas only me explain a process, you go through your through the gifts that, that you finally tuned in her so good at allow me to get there. And I'm thankful for that even for you colliding with meat to, to help me expose that to must self as change everything. Even just. What life than anything general? Because looking back at what happens today from a capacity standpoint, a look back at like all the things that go through, you know, as a businessman as anything in general that man, I couldn't imagine going through life, without have needs tools, and these things that we've learned through through the process of warrior. Yeah. And it was beautiful to witness how you were able to let go of stories that have kept you captive from going, all fucking in with all of you week, sixteen you figure out. It's okay to be all of you. You got that permission where you week forty six you'll learn to go all in with all of you. Right. And inside of that, one of the places that you need it to go all fucking in with all fucking you all of your part that can love right, right? The all of all of all of you all in of all of all in the ability to love to a point where there is no limit or restriction or reservation, the keyword is reservation right? Because if, if you're. Listening to this and inside of your relationship, you have the slight level of resistance or reservation to consume someone your life, just in case to not go all in blindly inside of your relationship, then there's a under. Current story that is holding you captive not to go all in, because today there's no fucking reservation of giving love right? You're a channel it goes through you and he goes to the other person. Right. I mean in the other part of that, too, is like in all parts of life from next standpoint and looking back at so having some of that anger fear. Whatever you call that holds back connection was all kind of from employees from people that are know teams who everything because, now having that weight off feels up capacity and space inside me even to feel in love and connecting Alvis you can see those things that people true. And so is so crazy to think about not just this and something else thinking about earlier before coming in is I was teaching with our organization else talked about, and we teach obviously all these things in the rental, we could go on for hours about the ripple effect of just how this is impacting the people in my organization, but we talked about, you know, once you come and go through Warwick in that process is literally. Literally, like getting out of the fish bowl come in the air, and you just look in the fishbowl, watch everyone else, the pain in the things you like men, you can just see it, and feel it just because you've gone through that process and free yourself from these stories in this bullshit in the shaming guilt. That's held you for so long, and so many areas. And we talk about that, and we've gone through that even in my organization, but looking back, I see it now I was just talking about an event and San Diego last week. And I could see and feel and people immediately just a two minute conversation. And so it's not until you go through a process like warrior week that you even can even I guess comprehend the feelings and the things that, that you're able to let go so you can finally see against some clarity, amongst the chaos that we will have in life when when you look at this big puzzle called life. And when you, you look yours at least from the perspective of everything that happened from that pivoting point, when, you know, your dad kind of left and to the point of the relationship where you're. To our everything needed to happen. All these pieces of the puzzle needed to happen in the person that needed to put the fucking puzzle. Together was you like it wasn't some fucking audio from Tony Robbins, or from anybody else. Any motivational? None of those things would have done it for you maybe would have guide you conversations of that would guide you maybe be was years of listening to Tony Robbins that even had you even open to listen to worry. I guess that was my case because right? If I would've Don the twenty Robin event in San Jose that happened like where we walked on the fire. I wanna to be even open to these kind of conversation, 'cause I was the kind of guy that was like listen man like my relationships with my relationship. Like I know how it's my wife's nobody's fucking business. So no one is going to advise me on my wife know what is going to advise me. Right. Like nolan. I wouldn't take. No one's fucking advice. Right. Because I'm supposed to be the man. I'm supposed to figure this out so everybody else is a fucking pussy that needs help. It's so true. And there's a fine line on that, where I didn't really look at it. The perspective of like maybe opened me up to that because. But that's so true. Because look back hundreds of hundreds of books in coach after coach and house in all these hollow. Mash is, Dan Kennedy twenty Robbins? I did all the Tony Robbins business mastery. Although stuff, nothing all those together could not touch the transformation that I had through warrior we either one because I worry week you literally took the last piece of the puzzle, I want you visualize this piece of puzzle being fool metal, right? Right. And it's burning and fucking fire and lava, and you had the balls to pick it up knowing it's going to hurt you hand pick it up put it in the puzzle. Let it cool down. And as equals down on, on Friday you're like holy fuck. I can see the full picture a hundred percent. I mean in again, that's something you could even see before much less have the balls to pick up and then actually deal with it. So you put the puzzle right all came clear, and, and you made a commitment in what was the commitment. There's, there's one more. Okay. There's one more thing I think that may help some people out there that, that was massively impactful for me just was a process of Atarot we talked about. Yeah. Yeah, I want to talk about that, man. Was shared ad because just last week, I met a guy and I referred like I referred your story to him. I'm the guy that was on that. And I said, I just told them your story, so. Yeah, it's important because there's a lot of guys on it. And this is something that I had struggle with, but as a big producer in business, you know, I prescribe Adderall through Dr almost don't even know, males early twenties in dollars taken one thirty day right now, obviously that starts to wear off to. Well, so then all of a sudden two-thirty thirty today, and he prescribed me, eventually have me up to three thirty per day, which is ninety milligrams of Admiral which is like, you know, I didn't really know what the hell it was ultimately like methamphetamine, obviously, you know, way from I mean similar family. Right. So I relied on over and over and over, and I knew and there's a process, and it's Hamilton through where I would take all those in our just basically get the day. I couldn't sleep. So then guess what I would do. I drink six to ten to twelve beers at night just to sleep. Just to wake up and do it again. And wake up and do it again. And I knew that and your body never recovers men. That's why that's why you were fucking fatigue. That's what I did my blood test afterwards after forty six you know, in that regard, I basically made a commitment on that mountain. We made a commitment to stop and haven't had touched it since and. It chain Montero. How many years, you, you took that at least fifteen I mean like it's everyday kind of thing. Oh, yeah. If you don't take it. What happens like what would happen? Would you be name badge? Cyril moods hired sluggish. I wouldn't take it on the weekends before, but I wouldn't do shit. I'll just laid around right? Because I mean I try to think, but from a production standpoint, I will just try catch my breath for the next Monday. So when, when you take it, it, actually makes you focus on doing shit. Yeah. Laser focus. I mean it's very, very tense. But what what happened was? Is it burned out, Madras and okay? Okay so, so I know why because you're adrenaline glands and like, apparently, apparently you don't need some shed you getting somewhere else. So we're gonna we're gonna shut down the fucking business one hundred percent. And so after after where we got I was committed to a man like I don't give you know, because there is not right before where week, I couldn't sleep, my heart was exploded, in my chest, and it's going over, and I prayed to God in this, how powerful this stuff is our prayed to God that, that if I could live through tonight. I would it wouldn't take Audie more and. And I did. And then I didn't take it for like a week. And then I was well, just try just one little bit this before, like that'd be warrior or January February, and then my worry we present March, and at that point on my fucking dumb, but even to break through the night and do that. And then take the shit again to showed how powerful it was from an you know, I'll say diction standpoints I didn't if I wasn't working didn't really take you. But obviously is addicted to just trying to win at work. But correct. Either way at that point after we said, I'm done cold circuit, boom, and having touched sins and that's the one year and six hundred three months. So the reality is, again, my blow work done, and Modrinic were shot. But thankfully, you have enough time that I went with holistic doctor we started doing, and guess what? Now, the drills are coming back naturally through adapted jeans, and there's much better ways out there. But I would not have had the pressure in the process in the lead up to where you're weak. And obviously we even talk about that. The, the entire thirty day lead up to warrior week is what kind of helped me devotion Saudis over and over and over this has got to be the time to stop. Thomas and other proof that, again you did this when you choose to know when you choose to seek you're the one that went to see the doctor is wasn't the doctor that came to you. And but you went with a different attitude, you win wet. Okay. Let me understand how this thing works. Right. Okay. Apparently might glands told me to fuck off because they had my body had another supplier for for me looking back. I mean it's amazing. I'm even still alive. When I tell people took and people here, even people that take a holy shit. Ninety milligrams a day. And that's just what my doctor prescribed over time. But like he must have been a fucking idiot, Doug. I mean I, I think he just did whatever you said. And he would just write it more. You know. And so it's one of the things I go, some he just asked me about real estate, and I'd tell them about real estate write the prescription. And so the reality is, like, I was literally killing myself, and it wasn't for warrior. I mean, and here's a crazy thing about it. I don't want to get to deepen. But in the lead up, it's so funny, I want to, to sixteen I was back through, like we're con stuff. I think when I did forty six hours doing. Certify trainers vice pretty good, you know. And I think the first day we like what's going on in the videos, like nothing's wrong, then Sam just laid into my ass thankfully over and over, and I was like, what the hell nothing's wrong with me? And you is crazy. I had bullshit of myself so much that I didn't think I really had a problem except this one little thing that was hidden away, which was looking at it all this crazy, man. And if you would not have collided with me, both in the front end both during that lead. And even getting so pissed at me made me grow a beard. You'll a good sent me a long time. So it's even girl like a little patch. But the reality is a was it until you kind of helped me collide with me to expose that I even realized it was their actual problem because I was so balled into my own bullshit about what it was right. And that's me think I live by this code. But ultimately, it's allocating credits to say my life term, because I'm not a twenty year old chicken anymore. The reality is, you can't sustain that type of self when I went to the doctor afterwards, he's like, dude, your blood. And so we've been on a process for the year and a half to do, so when it change my mind, so I was so anyone out there, there's so many things that you may not even know that you have struggle with Atarot or things like that, man that should we'll kill you. Eventually, I would go to this is not previous story, then I went to two I got a cold went to the doctor I hadn't even taken post war week forty six I'm sorry. Previous before forty six I was still taking out a role. They took my blood pressure, and they rushed me into the back to EKG because they thought that, that something was wrong. While I'm like, oh, no, it's always this, and it was because of all of that raw took all the time consistently literally. I mean, I'll just kind of a welcome Tom on. And I had no idea man. So there's so many things that if there's fifteen million books, and it would never have changed that outcome all the beauty. This man is the falling like sitting here is one thing. Your hundred percents are is that you're on your you are your own fucking supplier, one hundred percent of knowledge and of love of everything out there. Like truly you sit here today and you are. Person that is one hundred percent your own fucking supplier, right? Disorders of love source of your fate, the source of your knowledge in business knowledge for you not like you are hundred percent right? Your own fucking supplier, and everything. Yeah. And you're so funny, just as we're thinking just talking about this, like a being in this process for so long. I went to the forty six while you're we thinking I was like fuck. I'm pretty good, right? And, you know, and three mass, and that's just three of the major ones we're talking about right now massive massive breakthroughs. That were holding me back in life that I didn't even know us deal. But it's not something that I feel you can never do on your own, right? You need someone like you or someone that process and you need. There's nothing that I've ever experienced anything about walked through the coals at Tony Robbins. You all that stuff, nothing will compare to the actual environment and the energy the frame, and the pressure on, you know, what goes on that process. And putting you know putting yourself mentally in a place like. Heuer week that makes you deal with those things in the pit and ultimately things that you don't even know you still have in the pit the truth of it is know worry week has always been you put a week of your life. We'll fucking match it right hundred percent because that's truly what worry week is we match. It would love energy. Unlike you put a week of light your life into it wolf fuck and match week of our lives. Right. Right. And to get her to get her you, you become your own fucking supplier hundred percent in a bunch of different ways in every single area to find literally life-changing pivots, life-changing moves that allow you to and it depends on, you know, this is the second time which I wanted to think all this just to get the certification. I don't I don't need to go. Another one really fuck it change my mind. And when you look at when you look at the massive amount of love that you supply to yourself in, like the next step is to supply some, some and other person all that love. Right. Once you fill yourself with all of it. Right. Right. The natural processes to to, you know, put it in someone else. Right. Right. And so. Talk about talk about your relationship post worry we with your current fiance, and what happened there. So the, the reality of I mean, obviously sheared some of those things in that aspect of what happened, but obviously feel a deeper level of love for me in that regard. But, I mean, just in, here's obviously their slave ship. Came post understanding warrior initial tools and the process. I mean we talk every single day about how thankful we are in regards to what the tools that we have our versus friends out there. Sure, she's almost kind of where she's out the fishbowl to you kind of watch and see. And you know it's funny, we'll be like sought some better. Sought some better friends, you know someone's got this going on. They got that going on. And I'm like, oh, actually this is going on this happening. And he's probably doing this, and you may be actually, you know cheating. So and so, and she's like, oh, there's no way as possible. And then ultimately two weeks later, you ain't going to believe what let me guess exactly what I told you what happens. He's like, yes, a crazy, because ultimately once you're outside that fishbowl from the warrior, tool set of the warrior aspects. I mean that's something that. Has been very, very different. I guess awesome. So you made a commitment a week. What was that commitment virtual on to your love life? In regards to get married. Yeah. Commitment. Yes. So is that happening on it will be it? You got a date. Yes. Not not, not from that standpoint. We'll have the date soon though. Okay. You have date soon. Yes. But it's happening. Yes. It didn't have any time for him that you wish want him to happen. Yes. But there's some other things that, that I he'll deal with the legal issue came back, and there's a few things that happened that, that deal with, but hands down the best place I've ever been from lifestyle almost were felt like even being here just fill like, like. Almost surreal from from a life standpoint. I mean, even to have told you add spent three days here, just just like taking life in before this this, this next. If it we're having here, obviously, for warrior, the reality is made a happy place. Oh, one more commitment. I made at where we can just real quick that change all on simple thing. And we're talking about that. So you made a commitment the data's coming soon. Yes. Okay. And you also made another commitment inside of that to me. Yes that we haven't you're invited. We're having the Buffy, right? The slider book Noman of what time. Oh, midnight, but fucking me tonight Fain buff AB midnight briefly that is happening. Yes. I mean just. And just talk about Arbor sent it is the reality to talk to them. Why the midnight face so important for I say, no, but why is it over go to winning music is awesome? Everybody survey parties and has all these things and obviously at the end. There's just this wind down. Right. And everybody's been drinking and no one has the midnight buffet. Right. Sam. Hundred percent wants to have with that. And so that's something that's feeds your soul man reserve. I literally. And so that's a commitment that, that makes him as well beautiful. We're going to talk about the second thing I've already weakening. So there's just a small little shifts in me. So obviously workaholic not prior to warrior. I created space, and there was this other small small commitment that, my, my people helping their Colin head. And I pretend she I've been working till nine o'clock at night, eight o'clock at night. And one of the treatments I made on that same mountain. I was like you know what fuck this. I'm beat a home every day by six o'clock nine so simple. Right. This is so simple. And in this is years after, you know, I don't have the phones after work, but I'll, I'll creep into seven creeper date has had this going on that going on. So I made a commitment for the entire year that was supposed to be last year. Twenty eighteen right, that I would be home at six and Alice kind of scared about that. Yeah. Figure wheels because I was that leader that lead to the end ten o'clock and crazy did. And so what happened? I've started doing that. And to this day. Every day. It says Clark guests. Wow. Guess what happened or company has grown? Yeah. It's crazy. Right from from revenue standpoint from employee standpoint from a net income standpoint from everything standpoint because the warrior week forced me to make commitments such a simple commitment that changed mean everyday. I'm home by six o'clock. I mean it's the craziest thing from a connection standpoint. Yes. From from anything. And so that's something that like small little things that ultimately, it's amazing. You invest you invest a lot of fucking time your business, but you match it at home. I mean how can you match it? I home if you come home and nine you'd like fucked already, you know, I'd make these just us right with just this one time, just this time in old, smidgely Republicans. And there was this also creates is a rhythm in a certainty, and these things every night, this thing to together or go eat or go on the doctor time boardwalk and all the looking back like I wasted so much fucking Tom tattoo store that had to be there for that certain town, when ole timidly, apologised, Leadbetter, just get more clear and set that clear. Line in the sand. I mean looking back at just as one year those hours in connection with creating the happiness are pretty just from one fuck and commitment on the mail. Beautiful. And so I mean I I'm just on great thirty six your appreciate admit don't. Every time I have to appreciate that, because, you know, that comes deep down inside from my heart just witnessing the changes in you. And I never forget you. You spoke at warrior con when you took the Mike and you had you're on a fucking role, bro. Right. And I fuck I gotta find that footage. And I will I will just let me what cardio one. Was it or too? Well, anyway, you tell me later, I have to find footage, but you took the Mike you shared, and you were on a fucking roll, man. And I think I came to you and they told you how much certainty I signed that. Yes. And how proud of the flow, I was. Yes, as that flow, fucking captured everyone the conversation went like five six minutes. But everyone like you collapse. It time in that conversation man. Oh, it was. It was it was just a match away to obviously be able to share back. Some of the things I've learned through through you all geared, you know, you everybody, here's changed my life. I mean. Unrecognizable, but even it's yours some of those tools and business, and how the core four has changed power, my life in regards to certainty and business. And I think that was one topic was just having certainty in business in all that was was tools from warrior, and I mean, like I said, just the things that have happened since then, and problems in issues, things that used to stress me out, so much with think was the end of the world. Now a cigar. Okay. Here we go. Beautiful. Final word as we put this together if there's a guy that was a Blake Sloan in two thousand fifteen prior to you coming to you. I worry if there's a guy like that right now that you, you know, better than me that is sitting on the other side, and is somehow listening to this, or maybe this was forwarded to him by one of the people that he's actually listening right now is like fuck, you know, I've got a forward this to this guy because I pink this guy's dealing with a common front on the Blake is. So if he's been forwarded to, and he's been listening to a so far, like what would. Your dial wrecked conversation with him. What would you say to him that's gonna fuck in person is hard right now. So when we met said before we came out over and over and over over and over and over the message, I got was that there's someone that need to hear your story today because he's been listened to these, he hasn't taken action yet. And he knows deep down this time to finally reach out because he has that same pay that same pain of not knowing not knowing why the pain is the way it is people around him, not understanding the pain that he goes through because I feel that we didn't. And that's why I'm telling you, those things there. And some of the have told you yet, and I'm telling you, if you've gone to that pain, you feel alone, and you need that brotherhood, you just don't know how to make sense of what you have going inside your head. And once you got going on inside your heart just reach out reach out the same come think about warrior week. At least investigate it differently in deeper because it will change your life. Even when you think there's no other hope you think nothing else can happen because it changed mind multiple times already. And beautiful. And for those of you resonated with this message you can find out more about this podcast audio video transcript on warrior week now dot com. It's obviously on YouTube as well. I tunes. I mean, and so many other platforms. But one of the new things that is out right now starting in about two weeks from nights a new a new adventure at starts online. It's gonna be the man challenge. It's an adventure is going to take you through six weeks of self-discovery and get you introduced to some of the conversations we had here will Blake an inside of the warriors way and the belief system that is behind that. And you get the experience that from home. Literally at the cost of fucking going to dinner and you get to be part of that, and, and that opens so many other doors after you've gone through that experience. So if this resonates, would you check out be the men dot com and you'll find all the details that starts your journey from there. If forty week is something as a must in your heart worry week dot com, it's by invitation now we only do a few year. It's an ultimate place that a man needs to get in. Blake has been a part of it three times, once as a trainer and twice as a participant and continue to be hit. I wanna thank you for your time being here. Know I truly honestly from the bottom, my heart, I want, I want to tell you that roll, like you've been a hero of mine living the warriors way at like, you know, going through what you had to do and inside of forty six. Just getting rid of what, what was holding you back. And letting you be who you are. And inside of that truly feel happy doesn't take away your problems like you have problems. Eyebrows. Wa fucking problems. Okay. But, but be happiness out of be happy guy, solving your poem. That's the key thing and create new fucking problems because that's how we fucking grow. Oh, we bigger problems with obviously a much bigger capacity. In last thing I just wanted to say, thank you for you for all you've done for me. Like you've been super close Houston, sixteen man. You've had a massive impact on my life gear massive impact on my life. And I'm just so grateful for for the movement of warrior, and everything is done for me and the ripple effect. It's had for everyone in my life. And so. Super, thank you may not appreciate you. I appreciate that. And lastly, don't forget, my fucking midnight buffet Brophy sliders. Yes, sir. The slightest thing. Does a body good brawl? All right. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for listening to this, and we'll catch you on the next episode because there is a story that was one two three maybe four maybe five other men that were worth it and the rest of us. More to praise their journey praise your own journey. Praise him. Put Noman between.

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The VOICE, The FLOW, and The RV  |  045

THE CHURCH IS BROKEN WITH SAM NEIDER

28:17 min | 2 years ago

The VOICE, The FLOW, and The RV | 045

"Welcome to the churches broken podcast. My name is Samuel nighter in the mission of this show is to spread the message of the kingdom because God didn't call us to be church people. He called us to be kingdom people bringing light into darkness bringing the kingdom of heaven to the earth. It has been a crazy crazy week for me and my family. Last week. I was at warrior week where we fifty six as a lead coach stepping into leading that for the first time leading twenty three men through a pre-training process done virtually and then leading them through the event itself and something very strange happened something unexpected happen through the process of this event. So on the second day in the evening. There is a meditation in that meditation. I had a vision it was a strange vision. It was a vision. I didn't understand I'm still trying to unravel and put together, but I think I've figured out a part of it. So in this meditation. The first thing that happened was I felt or saw or sense this dark presence walk right in front of me. It was very it was crazy. I actually thought that someone had gotten up we are in a circle sitting around in a circle. And I thought somebody had gotten up in walked in front of me. I had my eyes closed didn't know what to make of it. And it passed in front of me. And then wasn't there after a few seconds? And so I just kind of stayed in my zone in the meditation. Later on in the meditation. I had a vision of. What turned out to be my wife like rising from the center of a fire and she had scales. Almost like a mermaid and she rose up, and I didn't recognize her at first because the scales covered her entire body and head and then eventually the scales fell off of her is in her face, and I recognized that it was her, and she was kind of their floating, and she grabbed my hand. And she began to lead me, she was just kind of floating along she grabbed my hand kind of looking back over her shoulder, and I touched her and her hand to call the vid and she just kinda lead me forward later on in the meditation. I'm not sure how long a period of time. It was I began to see light. She had grabbed my hand and was leading me off in the direction kind of to my left later in the meditation. I began to see this glowing light way off in the very very far corner. My left eye and. The light was yellowish at first it was kind of dull. And then it kinda grew in intensity. Until was pretty bright was bright yellow golden, and then it grew even more into this orangish light. And it kinda would go through this, abbot and flow. It would grow in intensity and then dim, but it kept growing in magnitudes throughout the course of the rest of this meditation actually throughout the this sequence of this period of the meditation 'cause I'm not sure exactly when it occurred or how long it occurred, and then it grew into this. Big huge, bright, reddish light. And then it went out. And I had no idea what to make of it. This was on the last part of day two of warrior week. The next day. I woke up and something was off like something was off. Like, my whole being was not it was not aligned. And no matter what I did to get myself aligned. It wasn't working. And I thought it was because of my disconnection to my family. I hadn't talked to them. This was Thursday morning. I had not talked to them since Monday night, and that's abnormal. Typically, I talked to them on a daily basis or multiple times a day when I'm on the road. I talked to my wife and my kids had not talked to them. And so I attributed it to just this this angst that I was feeling. It was kind of this. I called it this fuck all energy, just basically like fuck, all like everything. And just this angst that I was having. So I went through the day. And as I went through the day. I wouldn't say I experienced any the angst through the day. I kinda got it normalized by a couple hours into the day and was focused on the men focused on what we were doing and moving. Forward throughout the date. And as the day on folded. I noticed toward the end of the day, again, eight o'clock nine o'clock at night this energy started to come back into me this angst. And I started to feel it in my body. And then the night on folded in the night went pretty late to about midnight. And by the end of the night. Something very drastic came clear to me. It was a feeling that I had had it was a very very similar feeling that I had had when I was in ministry work. And I was part of this group that was led by a lead pastor, and I was part of this thing for about five years, and I had invested myself fully, and by the end, there was something in me that was being it was almost like a magnetic repulsion. Who was like, I was it was the the two magnets coming together that ki- you can't touch them together because they're literally the have the same polarity in their pushing apart. And I felt pushed to get out. Like, I felt this inner drive in every part of my body was just being repulsed away and pushed out of what I was in the ministry work, and I quickly. I recognize that it had been growing over some time that I had been doing that. It took a little bit longer for me to recognize an acknowledged it when I was a younger man close to thirty years old at that time. Than it did last week, but I had the same. It was all the same feelings. It was like this magnetic polarity thing in my body. I could literally feel it in my body. And by the end of the night, I realized like my body and everything in me all this angst. All this fuck all energy, all this desire, and this kind of thrust. That's pushing me somewhere is actually pushing me out of this meaning pushing me out of being a coach of warrior week. She's very strange because coaching in Warri week is a great honor. It's a huge honour. And it's an awesome is an awesome experience as a coach. It combines the physical the mental the emotional, the spiritual. There's nothing like it on the earth. There's no event that I'm aware of that is like this where it combines all the aspects of a man who. He is. And as a coach you get to lead a man through this amazing processes been something I've been looking forward to for quite some time. I had even daydream about what it would be like to coach within this to coach as a warrior week coach. And yet here I was standing at midnight on this latte. The third night of four there four days, total of the the physical experience and something in me like everything in my body is telling me, you should not be here you need to get out. And so then I began to focus on my heart and listen to my heart in my heart spoke, very very clearly as it does. And it just said this is not for you you need to go. This is not for you, you need to go and often when my heart speaks in these kind of moments. There's no there's no grasping. There's no understanding. Right. I've learned to simply trust my heart. There have been so many decisions so many steps so many steps of faith because listening to the heart requires faith. And nothing in my mind. Understood this like I had committed notch just to coaching at worry week, but to taking the men who stepped through into a ninety day challenge after warrior week I committed to this like I had committed and I'm the kinda guy when I commit to something when I say, I'm going to do it. I do it. Okay. Yet here. I am standing on day number three of four at the end of the day. And my heart is telling me. I must leave. This is not for you. Go. As so in that moment, I realized I have to act quickly like a lot of things that are going to happen over the next day. If I don't act if I don't respond if I don't obey and submit to what my heart is telling me right now, I'm actually going to create a cluster fuck for myself for the men for warrior for all these things like this is something I need to act on immediately. So I met with the lead trainer coach Sam at twelve thirty that night. Let him know what was going on in. His response was simple. If your heart is telling you to do that that you need to follow your heart. This'll take care of itself. We'll take we'll figure it out. We'll take care of it. But you must follow your heart. As what I love about this, man. I love this about garett white and warrior, and the message that is preached within warrior. It's all about ultimately learning. How to listen to the voice in your heart? Not listening to the voice in your head. But listening to the voice in your heart. In fact, Garrett ran in Evelyn the day before and the whole purpose of the evolution was exactly this. Learn to listen to your heart. Learn to listen to the voice in your heart. Not the voice in your head. And so in this moment, I was tested. I was tested literally the coach began began became the coachee the leader became the one being led. And I was tested to see if what I had been preaching. What I had been teaching what I had been leading these men to do the listen to their heart not their head. If it was something that I would actually do in the moment, though, it made no sense and still on some level makes no sense. And so I did and just like that within a span of twenty four hours actually within a span of six or eight hours, I had removed myself from being warrior week coach. Although I wanted to finish out were week. What came clear the next day was that coach Sam realize like he needed to just invest his energy toward those men. And if I was out my energy is going to be different the next day. And so he felt it best that I did not participate in the last day though. I wanted to and I respected that was like, yeah. I get it. I understand your show. Do what you gotta do. So I didn't even get to finish. I did not even finish the warrior week that I had led the pre-training and was the lead coach through the first three days kinda strange several of the men reached out. They just said, I don't know what happened. But they thanked me. They Fank me for what I had given them and done for them in that thirty day period. And I told them it was my honour. And so here I was. Something I had planned on doing for this upcoming year for two thousand nineteen was now completely up ended in a span of twenty four hours and one decision one heart decision. So I'm driving back home the next morning. And I relate to my wife everything that had happened. We have this long discussion several hours driving on the road and something beautiful began to unfold as soon as she realized number one what had happened and why I had done what I had done. And this is the beautiful thing about my wife like she honors. She honors me following my heart. She honors me taking these steps of faith, even though I had not consulted with her because it was twelve thirty at night when I made that decision when it came clear to me, I knew that she would be fully supported because we've done this so many times throughout the twenty years of our marriage. So as I related what happened. Explain what happened. Explain my process with all of this. And then just was kind of done. I had gotten it all out. She understood she said, yeah, I understand I can see it. And she immediately something began to rise up in her. And she started talking about doing something pretty radical which is to take a trip for a year in an RV across the country. This came out of nowhere. In fact, we have never once in our lives in our marriage ever talked about doing this. We talked about maybe taking an RV vacation for a couple of weeks and going to couple national parks and things like that for summer trip or something like that. But we have never once ever discussed going on the road like literally packing up packing are shit. Putting it in storage and going on the road in an RV like a three hundred square foot RV with my wife, myself, our two kids and our dog for a year, and yet somehow this began to be the flow of our conversation. And as she talked something kept flashing in my mind, it was the vision I had had in my meditation. It was the vision of her taking me by the hand and leading me. Leading me in a direction. Ultimately leading me wear leading me toward the light. And so initially as she began to say this. I mean, I was so discombobulated by everything that happened. Like literally my world got turned upside down in one decision in less than twelve hours. And boom like my whole world was different and on a different trajectory some already discombobulated as she's talking about this. So I didn't have a whole lot of resistance in me. But normally what happens like when she goes off on some of these ideas, my mind, my logic, my thoughts immediately come in. And I kind of I kind of say some things that shut it down. And that close off that path because when she goes down this direction, she's putting herself invulnerability like this is a dream. That's coming out of her in through her in her heart and one or two words or sentences can just Pierce it. And then she shuts it down because in that Volmer ability. I didn't protect her and nurture it and love her in that. And I didn't do that. And every time my thoughts would begin to go like this is fucking nuts. I would remember this vision in my meditation. This vision of her my Queen taking me by the hand and leading me. And leading me alternately wear toward the light. So here we are. Five days later, as I record this five days later, and we have decided and it was actually decided that day that day. I was driving home in the car having this conversation where dream turned into a reality where the heart got opened up both of our hearts in union got opened up to a new idea and new path and the new step of faith. Is very similar to actually what brought us out to California. My wife has had health issues. I've described those and other episodes of this podcast, they manifested in her lungs, and ultimately, we realized or we had Opole Manala just say, look if you have the means or the the ability to move to a warmer climate with good air quality. Now is the time. And so from that moment. And from the moment where she and I both independently had began had begun having thought of maybe we need to move. And then the pulmonologist comes on the heels of that. And then both of us independently come to this conclusion like we need to move. We don't know where we need to move. But we need to move. We need to move from Cleveland, Ohio and move somewhere else. And within four hours of both of us independently coming to that conclusion talking to one another about it realizing we had come to the same conclusion and the same heart decision within four hours we had and she had looked at every area of the country and by process of elimination. Landed us pointed us toward the central coast. Of california. Literally. And within that four hour timespan. We had redirected ourselves and decided to take this leap of faith. Not knowing anyone never having been out here. Other than driving through as college kids. And landed out here. And it was very similar with this whole unfolding of this RV thing like it happens. So quickly in this time. It was within an hour within an hour of. She said I feel like we're free now like you don't have any obligations and as soon as she felt this freedom. This flow began to come out. I've been talking about flow in the last two episodes, and I've been talking about flow in particular in the marriage between husband and wife. And so this flow began to happen between us, and because of the vision, I had I didn't allow my logical dream killing nature to come out and Pierce, the beauty of what she began to express and what began to flow through her. Instead, I let her take me by the hand and lead me. Toward the light. Is so starting in June. We have decided we're going to buy an RV. We're going to either leave all our stuff in this house that we've been renting or pack it up and store it, and we are going to go on the road for a year. And focus on our family our kids and make love our purpose throughout this year. Make love and loving one. Another our purpose through this upcoming year in allow that love to become the fuel to create. Like to get out of this mode of having to produce as a man, I'm a producer. I must produce and get into the mode of as a lover as a husband as a father in union with my wife together with my family. What am I called to create? Like, what am I call decree? Now, what am I call produce to make money for vocation for my calling whatever you want, whatever you wanna call it? However, you wanna define it. But this thought of producing and production instead of that, what am I call to create out of the beauty out of the union out of the flow. That's between us and in us, and especially between, my wife, and I. And so this upcoming year is going to be a crazy year is going to be an adventure. Like, I don't know how we my family are going to go from we lived in a five thousand square foot house in Cleveland, we live in a thirty five hundred square foot house in California that also has a Caserta, which is another fifteen or eighteen hundred spur feet. I don't know how we're going to go from that to a three or four hundred square foot. I think three hundred square foot RV and not murder one another. I don't know how it's going to happen. But this is where the flow is taking us. This is the expansion. We are being called into. To go on this grand adventure. So a lot's going to happen like lots going to happen. We're probably going to create a YouTube channel document our trip. My wife will probably start a podcast. My son will probably start a podcast. I plan on transitioning this podcast this podcast. The is broken. I plan on transitioning it to a new podcast something along the lines of the pit Walker. Finding your power your purpose and your path on the other side of the pit. Like really, this has become more. Clearly, what is in me. I'm not here to thrash the church to thrash organized religion. I did that somewhat at the beginning of this podcast. Like that's not what I'm here. That's not what I'm here for. I'm here for something. I'm here for the kingdom of God. And I've had many experiences over the last twenty years of traveling through the pit walking through the pit. What is the pit? The pit is the darkness in the pain inside of us. The pit is. The thing we fear. The pit is what we tried to avoid to not have to go into. And yet I've found throughout the twenty years of my adult life that there is no way to move forward. There's no way to grow. There's no way to become more. There's no way to find the light except to go into the darkness of the pit. And in that in that in finding the light in the deepest darkness in my soul. My purpose gets revealed and the power to live my purpose and the path forward becomes clear in the pit. So I'm gonna talk about this. And I'm gonna share my experiences along this line on my transition this podcast from the church is broken to the pit Walker. So hopefully, if you've enjoyed and found value in what I've shared here. You'll transition you'll listen to the next one. I'm planning on going fifty two episodes fifty two seems like a nice number. I've been going one a week. I might speed it up here and go to a week to I hit fifty two. I believe this is forty five. So it will come in the next three four five weeks. And then I'll transition it over and this next podcast and all the things that I begin to produce not to produce all the things that I begin to create out of the beauty of this union with my wife, and my family, we'll put out there. Will make them acceptable for others who may be on a similar journey. But my question for you today is this. It's very simple. It's very simple. I'm the leader of my family. I'm the leader of my wife from the leader of my children, and yet in this instance, my wife is leading me. My wife is leading me. Why because I was open. I was open to her leading house open to her leading us toward certain direction. Now, don't get me wrong. Like once that direction is clear once we knew the central coast was our destination. Once we knew that taking an RV trip around the country for a year is our destination. They it's my job as the leader to step up and make that happen all the things that need to go into that all the things that need to happen. And there are a lot. I've been mapping it out. I've been creating my lists like there's a lot of stuff that needs to happen. A lot of things that need to happen to make this trip happened guests who that's on. It's on me to lead into execute. But here my wife led me. Lead me in the direction that we needed to go. So where in your life is my question to you today where in your life? Do you need to be open to being led? Even though you're the leader. You're the leader where in your life. Have you been resisting being led because at the end of the day? If you don't know how to be led how can you ever lied? More to come. Stay tuned. And I'll be back with you soon.

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EP 62 PR & SEO : How I  grew a startup from 0 to 40M+ page views and got acquired by Google

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EP 62 PR & SEO : How I grew a startup from 0 to 40M+ page views and got acquired by Google

"Today's episode is brought to you by the podcasting club. The community that help you start. Grow and monetize your podcast. I'm a huge fan of podcasting. And i believe everybody should start podcast but the main question that i get from people is how do i actually started a podcast. What is the process shootout. Use these microbes. Mike do actually need to wear headset or something. And i'm just like let's keep it simple and that's why i created this member. She to hope. Bluestar your podcast. In the right way to help you get started to help you. Grow your podcast and help him. Wanna your if you wanna learn more about his membership head over to their podcasting club. Dot com in obviously linked are going to be in the show. Welcome to the she winds. Podcast the place for you to learn the systems and the strategies to grow your business and avoid costly mistakes every week. Your host an amazing guests have conversations that will inspire you motivate you and empower you to show up and make it happen. Learn about marketing. Golding authority lead generation self love and much more with your host marketing and business. Strategist your soon to be business. Vesti tia through saney. Hello everybody walk into today. They're epi. I hope you ought to ingrain. Hope you order in a basin and you're excited for today's episode because today we're talking about pr and seo something that many people including myself. I'm not really into. We don't know how how this works like when someone asked me to write something i get like okay. I don't want to do it. I get a pontiac attack anxieties coming. So today i have on the podcast. Demetri drug dealers and he helps companies do keyword research right article on their website. On cuba's that went around for and do around those are link building all this stuff that he's gonna talk himself about dimitri basically grew a startup from zero to fourteen billion page views. True pr in seo and then got out company acquired by google and obviously he learned a lottery process so basically he applied everything he learned into his recent company code just to reach dot io and is a diy pr software tool which again from zero to five thousand palace paying customers and these customers include airbnb hubs parts sima tech so literally you know what kind of caliber. We're talking about here so just to reach out as well acquired li-literally a couple months ago in december and dimitri in general over the last ten years he published causing five hundred plus articles. Dr that you can find on forbes entrepreneurs wired and many other publications so i'm so excited to talk dimitri here and me and him already had the chance to kind of have a conversation on clubhouse as well so welcome to the show dimitri. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Thanks for such an awesome in tennessee. Lena bed how you actually started he. S your pr. I was just like anybody else you know like in my video. I say i had no background in marketing. A software engineer. I was unhappy in my job. I quit my job. I sold everything i had. I got into my honda. Civic with my friend who is my wife now and we just drove cross country to california because she wanted to go to geico master's degree and it was in california and i was reading a magazine called web two and it was all about startups getting money from investors and they were these young kids in silicon valley. This was two thousand seven. Who's already pretty big industry. They're of course. And i was like i gotta go and check this out you know and i didn't have anything to my name. We just packed up our stuff and we drove across country and stayed in this motel and tried to get an apartment. And i joined the same school that my girlfriend drove my wife now. Middlebury college graduate school there. And i just had i want to get an mba everybody. 'cause i was just like this loader software engineer wanna talk to anybody and like i'll get an mba. And before. i even started the program. I got introduced to this guy manala just sign. He was like he was a graduate of this program and he was. He was from he humidity from india and he kinda self taught entrepreneur. He was number twenty at link thin and he was starting his just getting started going right before he was closing money from investors. I was like oh my god. This is like oh my god. This is amazing and i really try to get job with i was like oh can you hire as like well. Can you do any market. I don't i don't do anything i don't know what the do he's like. Oh here give you a test. We're starting this company. Cross the go. Put up a page on kapiti. And i was like oh okay i guess oh i'll just create a page and he's like if you can keep it up for twenty four hours. You have yourself a free marketing internship. I put it up. I thought it'd be easy. But all these editor started attacking me saying. Oh this is promotion. What are you doing random stuff on wikipedia. You know so. I actually did make up all sorts of things. I didn't know him but apparently he was number twenty and lengthy and and he had accomplish things so i was quickly googling trying to put notes in there and say hey this is a legitimate thing and he was the number twenty linked thin and he's starting you company and he's raising money so anyway. I kept the page up He gave me an insurance ship and in the process of the next two years during my kind of going to school from nba. i a lot of know-how from him. so he he taught me how to pitch journalists. And how to do this on your own and how to figure out what to write. Journalists and how to get conversations going has like gosh. It was incredible start to a career in content marketing. Co pr. because i didn't know anything from any at all and nba really didn't help much either. I mean there was more lake broad stroke kind of thinking that you learn so start quite a wellness pod. Let's say like you had to learn everything while like studying and stuff like that so from there. How did he actually go to paula. That that's actually the company that you. Why isn't there yet was transitioned. You had to go through. So polar polls was a company started by luke w he's a founder of like mobile first movement. If you guys ever heard of lake building a app or mobile version. I before he kinda wrote all the books and i met him so after cross loops across got acquired by left before crossing quiet. I learned a lot from renamo. But i left and i went to go work at a design firm and working at that design firm I ended up Meeting this guy. Luke and i. It's funny actually a cool story. While i was working at the design firm. There's a journalist named walt mossberg. He's kind of like a big name. he was like recode. Vox you know he. He did all things d like he was personal technology. Columnist wall street journal greeley big name right and i saw how mrinal would strike up conversations with him just over like email and i was like. Oh gosh so my first day on my first full time job they were doing like a design. Half or something like that and like. Oh the building design app. I'm going to email walt mossberg. i'm gonna get an interview with him. And he responded to me and i was so surprised like i was a nobody like i. This was my first job and internship is like sure. I'll take a look at thing and we get on this call and i'm like well. This is a design app. Her web designer to get feedback from their clients. He's like i don't. I mean i cover personal tech like i do consumer stuff. What does this this to beat like. Well this is kinda like beat soc- out trying to make it say. This is not accurate at all. Please don't call me again. It was just had like engine years this my day. Three or four on the job. I had like all these engineers scrambling trying to put together. This demo and i was like oh gosh let's learn one. Main lesson learned really look at what journalists really wants to see and try and put your story next in line and see if they really fit. and so. that's where. I kind of learned a lot. But i also met this guy luke. He was starting company polar. So he's like. Hey you're pretty good at this. Pr outreach stuff when to join and you can do pr for us and polar was appalling app just like a little pole. You put it up. He can say. Hey joanne like mcdonald's or burger king or i dunno dunkin donuts starbucks something very similar to to that anybody can put these things up and we just needed to grow it and i didn't know how to do it and i was just figuring things out at night literally. One day was looking at tech me which is like breaking news stories and i was like. Oh maybe i should create polls on breaking news stories and then literally ask them to promote the polls and put them the data and it didn't really work at first because i didn't have any data and they didn't want to put our goals into their stories but what i ended up doing is i started creating like x. Box versus ps four. I'll just create a poll. And then i'll promote it on twitter. I'll pay money to promote it through ads or something get some some data in there and then pitch them and say. Hey you just wrote on this topic. I just have some data. Can you put it in. And so that just worked and so for two years. This is halloween from zero to forty million pages. I literally pitch that same playbook over and over and over again i would email all the journalists any given breaking news topic and say. Hey you just wrote about this. Can you include my poll in. And that's we kept growing and eventually start embedding their polls and we ended up working with npr and tech crunch in all the hearst publications forbes and all the major publications were using us by the time google acquire this and it was just incredible to strike up these conversations with everybody and that was just a turning point. I think it my career. Overall i thought. Oh wow. i really landed on something. That i could just do. For a while and teach beat by launched my course online education platform to help people do the same. Because anybody can do it. You know and then i started building. Just reach out to kinda help. People do it with tools but yeah because everybody can do. But you don't know how to do it. And that's the that's the big and i just want to jump in the bath when you said that you miss age and you email journalist got a reply from him and you didn't expect it. What did you message to kind of. Get you kind of attention. Because obviously he did in some attention even what always you. How did he get attention. Sexual act fair. A few of these samples out. I'll send them to you too. I got actually ashton kutcher also to apply to reply to me later while working as urb-e iran speaker series called serves soapbox and i would try and get really high name speakers to disobey in my interview so manal taught me like when i was across the really study the person likes look at their curiosities their interests and go after quality over quantity approach so most people when they think like. If you're anybody listening to this they think of pr as a large list. The visually in our minds we think of a large list of journalists. And we're gonna pitch all of them at once and we're going to put our our our scoop like what are we doing. We're launching something. We're doing something right. The very notion of that is a little bit broken and archaic because most of those people are not interested in what you have to do what you're saying so what you wanna do. Is you want to personalize it to a level where you're actually striking up conversation with somebody on something interesting and you want to build a develop their relationship more work and immediately as you're listening to this you might be not for me. I don't have time for this. Because i don't see the roi right away because most people psychologically want to see something quick email. I get a response. I don't if i don't i just scale a thousand five thousand ten thousand emails and if i can't get those lists i'm going to go pay a firm to do it or something like that. So that's actually doing more disturbs to more people versus building relationships yourself with you know. Hi lena high profile individuals. And so i kind of started through that per protein. That's all i've done. Is i would look at so would wall mossberg. I look bad. Oh he was talking about the smartphone in the future of the smartphone and i o s six versus seven. I was like oh since you already covered talk about these topics. I had three polls on that day. That's why i and created three more. And i said well i actually ran. Polls on the data information you talked about what do you think of data in my polls and so to him he'd already have covered it and so he was like okay. Be interesting since. I was at the design firm. I wasn't pitching anything around holes. So i again. I was pitching designed app and that was my mistake is thinking. Oh he would cover design app. You've been no. It's not really be to see. It's not a consumer app approach designers and but to strike up conversation. I i used the poll idea that kind of says. Hey you you're interested in that with ashton kutcher. I can show you the email that i sent. But it was literally i interviewed. Maybe five or seven people that he himself mentioned in all his talks at stanford and different kind of talks that he gave. And then i said. Hey i'm a big fan of you of your work in philanthropy that we're investing in startups. I interviewed these five people that you mentioned the lot in my speaker series. Would you be interested in being a six one and So i worked very hard to try and get everyone that he looks up to get on some kinda call with me since personalizing quality over quantity. That's why i always say anybody who's just starting out. There's you know like newsletters that come out. Journalists actually ask questions like harrow. Response sources like tons of these out there we index all of them adjust reach out who allows me to easily search him but you can just subscribe their free and you can just sit back and respond to journalists questions like somebody has a question on e commerce marketing or whatever it is and you can learn what they're asking eventually start building those relationships i think it makes a lot of sense especially as saying like meaning tension on getting more person at all. People initially like say like they go broader like. Oh i need to go through. Maybe hundreds of us more journalists. Before i can even think and people don't even their stuff like you and dairy to kind of go to ashton kutcher. You like kind of you know. Is that mindset as well. You know i would do it. I would try if it doesn't work cool but i'll try a lot of people. Don't even want to try. Because they're already in their mind just like it's not gonna happen. But i feel like you know. It's a mindset as you like i'm gonna go to those people i'm gonna rush to email them. I'm going to try and get the attention anything even if they give me an attention on once when i'm giving it to try and convince them it's not like you know tennessee and that you know keep going kind of my off and i'd like to find. These day is about being intentional before actually reaching out. We've like the lesson that you learned needs to know. What are they is about. What i've been working on so it's been very specific as all on targeting and what we're going to tell them of the kind of reached out to them so it's like getting personal. I i feel like that's something to meet and i feel like i just need to go in there and pitch myself but nowadays peachy yourself out there. It's all about getting personal. People need to know that you care about them that you at their work. What they are doing what they're interested in about. And i think that's what made you successful in your our reaching your pi. The net yeah. I mean personalizing is one is something people forget. And that's hard to do and it takes a lot of time. Some people just don't decide not to but there are ways to kind of speed it up and outsource some of it like you can have assistant like i employ an assistant philippines. That just does research for me. So i tell them. Hey here's a list of links of publications find me. Journalists who cover how to pitch journalism. Pr tools communications that realm and different marketing tools and talk about like give me the latest articles that they've written about look at their twitter profile. And tell me questions that they asked. and so. there's a column for latest articles. Lou this questions in that kind of stuff. It costs me five bucks an hour. I might you know maybe spend two hundred dollars a month or something on that research. You really is worth my time. Because i can work on creating the pitch in the ideas around these things. And then you know like i might write the actual pitch and then i would say someone well. Can you take this pitch in kind of work. It into these details might pay somebody another two hundred dollars to do that. If i don't have any time but if you have time do i do it yourself. Then make it work and then you can scale. It was someone else's assistant. I wouldn't hire anybody to actually send emails on my behalf but doing some of that grunt work research may be creating some templates. It won't be perfect but it'll be somebody who can just do some of that work for you will end then you. The biggest thing is not to get bogged down by negative responses like everything that i've done eighty percent of it ninety percent of it usually just didn't get responses failed was bad idea and it's very easy to get up every morning and say okay. Well i just fell down a whole bunch yesterday and the day before and the week before and i. I haven't really gone the success in like two three months now with anything whether why do why do i keep doing this. And psychologically you're like no. I gotta go back to the last moment where i had success and so it's like but you should keep trying. You just should be changing what you're doing if something isn't working change it to be something new like pitch different angle a different way to strike a conversation email isn't working go to lengthen. Find them on link. Thin struck up a conversation there. Maybe ping on instagram. Maybe clubhouse would be the next thing join clubhouse and go to some rooms where journalists are hanging out raise. Your hand asked a question that you know they might be interested in. You know like just think a little bit outside. The box of oldest. Didn't work out. I must go and hire pr firm. I am not good at it. That's the general thinking behind or like i don't have the expertise really not like can start a conversation with a random person that the conference great lakes. Then you have the expertise to to into pitch a journalist. I feel like you wanna do it january. You know because everybody just day awayday going into like they go in the mindset. I'm going to sell when a train. And i think you always go back to dust so when you going with them mindset you perceive it. Those journalist named no one's going way in with did we had a different way. You're given support when when the already knew and like like is something that's going to support when you're writing or on sunday then is help them kind of thing. They can any way that someone is trying to fish themselves get in on forbes and stuff like that so and you don't have to a lot of people listening to this might be like oh i have to create a whole data source or pull. You don't have to do anything you don't even need to create and you day there around anything you can just say. Hey i have a poll. I'm working on or a have a study and working on in this sector. The preliminary preliminary findings are these and you can just get at what they might be. Are you interested to hear more. So then if you get responses back then you actually go any create that day. This whatever it is that you want to but i have most of my students at pr that converts online course outside of just reach out. That's what they do our customers on just reach out. They just pitch ideas that they think might work. That are in a relevance gap. So it's like what the journalists has covered and what you wanna do and there needs to be something different or unique about what it is and what a by someone is getting started like someone like me. I don't like rights like writing my team. And i don't want it to be my. You don't wanna game. I like talking podcast by what is like someone wants to and games yards and seo. But just don't have that thing that they wanna ride. We have been outright. Yeah so i actually you know those fifteen hundred articles you said people might think of it and say this is crazy. The guy just made all this stuff up like just ridiculous. How can somebody write fifteen hundred hundred this well. A portion of those were actually written by other people on other publications. I just page them. The ideas and they wrote these articles on topics that i pitched them. I just gave him outlines. But what i do is i work with maybe to eight different writers. Sometimes i have more. But in given moment i have seven or eight writers and they know mice like style and when i write about they know and so i also don't love writing all time it's still like i speak russian english. It's not like. I have like a mix of languages usually when i'm writing and so i m i outlined things a lot. Why do i deal notes for them. And what i i'll assign and they'll say okay. I need ten pitchers. Written a here is an outline. And i'll just talk it through. I'll create audio recordings of it and send it off to the writer. The writer gets it writes. It sends it to me. I might give them feedback right in audio too. If i just short on time arm going somewhere. I just literally would give him feedback and we'll go back and forth like that Hiring writers just easy because It only gives you more time. The problem with it of course is that the writer is not you and so your feedback is really important. And you're gonna end up paying a lot of money if you're giving a lot of feedback of course 'cause revisions and so you wanna be just careful about that But in pr the biggest thing would be if you're writing guest articles here. You're going to need writers. If you're writing pitches you might hire one writer or part time writer to just help you. Right pitches If you're not into just written content all that much you're not gonna get that excited when you're on an article written up Is just not going to be. But if you get podcasts or do interviews or video interviews you'll get more excited about it and then you wanna do more about it and so what i would do is just pay pivot towards where you're most excited about. Which would be podcasts. Maybe it be clem. House would be like you know. Maybe video literally your philippine You know assistance would probably need to create lists of those and he just like literally piven focus on those and your pitches would be kinda similar to them. It'll be a the template is pretty standard like hey we covered here you know. Run these things here on my past episodes. Here's things that. I kinda wanna talk to your audience about a udal interest in during like an audio interview with me and then you kind of writing out of it more or less. I mean you might need a writer to write those pitches out by then you kind of just use those features to pitch video audio kinda outlets than just focus on that folks your pr around bat. See how that's working out for you as you're it it won't count like doesn't help always with the seo aspect of it but you know it could. Yeah so basically you can hire someone from five value. Maybe try out. Different writers from five you you by the with more demolished and then hired off personnel design you can. If you're just you need some pitches rewritten and some research done around. Who the target to create a customized list with personalized kind of the emails. Things like that that research ya fibers. Great like any kid from college can sit there and google all day and create a list of lake call. You know here is a list of podcasts. You should pay. here's the name of the host. Here's the personalized starter. On like the last three episodes in what they did you can get the perfect job for a kid. It's like ten bucks an hour. Can you just give me a list of fifty or seventy of these. I think as long as you get pretty good personalized starters written up then and the the key the cobra you hire also right up a little email for you you can change it up on the template. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah so that you don't have to do a lot of that research kind of stuff happening. Yeah yeah because especially leaving behind his joe. It's decoupled logging rights in equal rights derived. You don't own. You have when i think about it and like my mind is just right thing because that's the main it is. Yeah well it's different. It's different what you wanna get out of it to always say like why do you want to do. Pr people come to us all the time they have money. I like my questions whether you doing like why like well. I don't have a goal like i. Just kinda want some on my side. Wanna look legitimate. Can all brand. These are very vague goals. And so you're gonna kinda not know if you're doing a good job at it or what. What do you want to keep with it right. And so i always think of like what's the end result for me. It's always been traffic conversion revenue right. And so i've been an seo person so i've been using addio video and written content all to back links to specific pieces of content on my blonde which ranked number one for my keyword. And then i start getting traffic and revenue from that one piece of content so they do have those writers and i do right but if you know a lot of people listening to this this might seem to advance sophisticated than you. Don't you don't want to jump into this thinking okay. I got a right content. And i gotta get breaking on role in all this stuff. It's like you just start out. Slow get on a podcast or or something. Small siv that translates into any revenue or it might not be revenue might be like followers or traffic to your site or some kind of influx of activity. And do more of it or change it up. That's where i would start Small winds good for like to keep going actually be patient with everything that you do especially because people end of gold podcasting. The banks made me promote the courts. Day and then the next name is so a how we way like along short term goals in the outlook podcast and then on sales. I writes blog. And then it's actually the location inside takes time and effort and whenever we hear out there just so broken most of the time like we don't nobody talks about like failures and ground work. Everybody just kind of works like five or seven years and they're like okay. Now you know this happened. i hear here. I've achieved this thing. Now i'm gonna talk about it. And i go to like i haven't shared enough of like the process. I have been on cast pretty regularly throughout this journey. Just reach out. But it's like. I haven't haven't been sharing as much of leg stuff been failing. I did like failures interview a couple times. A couple podcasts. I'm failing but i just haven't shared like how much work is to just wait. And it's very slow ground type of work where your inbox is usually not very happy notes every time league. Yes you got hundred new subscribers you have five thousand new. It's like it's slow getting going. But anything i tell you. That's what was going to. I went to go in there. And you like what. I did or china today to come in this joining. Yeah i think. I was just doing an interview with thrive global on this too and i guess like a couple of things that kind of stand out for me and i think about when it comes to challenge so challenges for me were acquiring customers ranking on google to try and beat my competition and you know when people say how to write the press release. I come up. I people convert to paying customers. They stay on. We might product as a pain custom because people come and go. They wanna do pr today. They don't wanna do it tomorrow. They have all these questions. Is it gonna work at journalists are going to cover me so you open up. This can of worms of lake. Oh we have a tool to help do pr. Everybody and their mother's like how much time i gonna get when i'm gonna get it. How much work they put in like. It's just the dole. I can't promise anything you know from from journalists sites so those were like constant issues and struggles with it but there are two things that kept coming back to one is. I interviewed two people. Patrick byrne he's founder of overstock dot com and and philip rosedale. He's the guy who built second life which is a very popular game. And so when i interviewed patrick byrne he had the six month mentality so when he was in his thirties or forties. He was diagnosed with some condition where They told him he only has six months to live. And so he reema every evaluated his liping said. Well we're doing. What am i doing day today. Is it worth it Where should i be spending time and effort for the next six months. So that's all. I have on this on this earth and so after six months. They actually told them the. There's a chance they can help them and they gave them another six months so he learned kind of to live six months at a time really evaluated how. He's working what he's doing and made sure that he's the actually passionate about what he's doing and spending the most time where it matters right now because he'll never get back in. The end is like so near the second. One was philip rosedale and he just told me he when we met with him. He's like hey. What are you doing and i was like well. I'm doing the doing this. Pr polar is like. Well let me ask you this. If you're gonna make any money you knew this already. You'll never make any money out of this thing won't get acquire. This thing is just gonna kinda close down the next three years. Would you still be doing it. And i was like probably 'cause i wanna learn how to do this right right but that was like a good question because like i turned around and most people around me were not doing that. They were just they have a job or they get kinda sorta thought this was a good idea and so those things stuck with me and so that's what it was like my anchor driving me through most i guess Banks that i kind of struggled with day today like all customers leaving churn people not staying on not wanting to do pr. Because they don't know they're going to get more problems. Would you know pitching and all these different traffic issues that we were having not ranking on. Google you know partnerships that didn't work out people that promise The they thought their pr. There's just dealing with customers. And in their journey through the product realizing there's a lot of problems with promising pr and making that as a promise. Those were two main anchors. Like i even just reach out with just going to close doors. I'd still probably be doing it. Because i'd be teaching people how to do. Pr and that's what passion. And that's what i kind of want to do. In life. i probably still reapply prioritize. Like work life balance. I still more time with my kids and family than i do working. I talk about it all the time. Educate people on how to do that. And so yeah. I always like like to tell people This because i see people running like today because we are so many apps and everything is just always on you you. You always open up your phone. This is why i have this crappy iphone. Five that You know just dies when you go outside. So i can't really have anything on it. I literally i make calls on it. And i don't want to river even though it's on three g. And that they keep telling me is gonna come down. I might get a flip phone. But it's like just slowing down because everything is pushing you to get more and more and more and more you're kind of chasing something. He chases somebody's else's goals in just coming back to these two things really help. Kind of ground me and Just persevere and do what i been doing and i. I didn't care like if if this had to close down. great. I wouldn't have an amazing to four or five years running it. I would met awesome people without help the whole bunch of people and so be like it didn't close. I would be happy and content with it. And that's why. I kind of do was doing what i think you said is so important kind of remember especially the by as witches in someone else's goals and that's something that we see a lot happening either yourself if you sit down and reflect every time your social media especially myself sometimes sit down and every time. I'm on social media. And i see these new coaches doing this new stuff and doing this stuff and what youtube videos. I'm so influence to follow what they're doing because in my head when he doing is actually the right pathway but is the actually the reality and sometimes i do sit down and think about this thing and kind of l. myself tickets back. That's that's the goal. Don't keep comparing yourself to people out there. Don't keep do going the direction that they want to go. Hand of tickets that back in you know. Go into what you want to do. Think about the things are lying to who you are and what you want to do. So i think that is very important. Actually said it's a lot of people struggle with that. I feel like i. They just don't exactly know what they wanted to do. And they kind of know their strengths but they like. I talked to people in their lake. I kind of want to write in. Okay we'll what do you want to write well and really good at writing. But i don't have a and so then it. It becomes this roadblock but there's like vision and mission workshops and there's just a lot involved there on figuring that part out of lake your. It's your really big strong suit that you're passionate about. How can you actually create an end goal out of it could be a blog or a book or maybe a podcast or whatever so like figuring that out and working on that would probably yield you more long-term by people just kind of leave it there like i don't really know and i'll just go get a job and i'll figure it out later while i get a job and so then all your effort isn't that job and they kind of meander around you really wanna dig deep inside to see like what ticks. What would you be doing if you knew you would never gonna make money out of fame and then it's worth it. It's worth it to just do that thing. Because there is only so many days you just forget in a mundane environments like winter or whatever like you. Just enjoy to inside. Just get up here like open up your inbox. You're like okay. I got a response. All these things And that's like the world's do list for you have and that's what most people that's what they do. They do other people's to do this for because that's what you gotta do. Your day is only this short so you gotta get done so you never the. You are never on your to do list. It's your inbox. So it was on there and people use all these apps but still hilly people are not really questioning like what makes them tick inside whether they want to. Do you know important kind of like stop and reflect these kind of things like in life in general. I like the whole one all these ads. They're constantly telling us we direction. We should go with. Because i'm going to follow someone else's direction we never have the. We don't actually have the time to kind of think about where we wanted to go. Because that's the reality if you actually trying to take a different direction and you may get out of your job. I must be. Their job is bad by the time we are in the job. And i remember back in the days when i used to have a job i used to think. How can i make these end. Faster can be day. come to an end. When is the we can come in cutting. Come faster so you kind of always seem be on this kind of our roadway. Just can't wait for everything to move too fast. Yeah and you're only have so many days you don't actually want to push your age aging process faster right but you kinda want these days faster. You're you're spending most of your life doing stuff that you're kinda sorta and you got to figure it out like you. Can't you need a salad. You need money to live on your new business or whatever you're doing isn't going to flourish overnight. So that's i mean it's a challenge. It's not easy. But i would still work on that because even though it's hard at least you're doing something that you're really really passionate about and you really want to do and it shows i feel like overall it should. It's maybe it's just a small pivot you though so let's go back to you know. Pin's you some action the holly snus matching take feel. Yes so the first thing. I would say if if you've never done before i would definitely recommend going to help a reporter out or journal. Requests which is hashtag big to use journal requests and there's also response source those three jornal requests helper reporter al joyner requests and Response source these are newsletter. Aggregate were journalists bloggers. Podcasters are put not questions every single day. And there's thousands of them on any given topic. So if you're listening to this and you're really a big expert and i dunno environment and pollution that you would type those keywords in and you would see all these questions from cnn and forbes and other smaller publications specifically around that and so if you can answer those things great if you are an ecommerce entrepreneur marketing expert great within marketing ecommerce. And you'll get questions. Every single day started doing that because a you get to see what journalists and bloggers are asking about. Be your chance that being featured somewhere because you're subject matter expert and you're just responding to journalists you'll need to think of a story to page you don't need to create lists so people this is free. It's easy simple and really get your feet wet. Npr gets you some hits. So i would. I would start there as like thinking about promoting yourself the next thing. That is an actionable tip. I would say start thinking about. Just what do you want to do with this. Pr like how do you want this to help you with your business. And what is the long-term approach here and that's where you would start kind of pivoting. Npr that converts Course when i work through these calls with students this comes up a lot. They get three four mentions then they come on the call the on call and say hey dmitri what what do i kind of need to do here and i was like okay. Well what do you want to do with pr. What is what is want to do it. I are like well maybe revenue would be one thing or maybe it's just building my image as a thought leader. This will be another goal but really figure out the goal right and then star working towards that goal so if it's revenue than you need to be producing content that's ranking high on google that constantly pulls in traffic that's important if it's just image building then you might be writing but doing guest articles or you might be doing podcast. Appearances by working on that goal is really important and from that role kind of figuring out what it is. You wanna do I know this one is a little bit of a like a big picture type of action item. It's not necessarily something tactical you can implement right away but it's important because then you figure out what you wanna do and you can always ask me what you wanna do. Read one of the articles guides. But it'll come to you. It should come rather than aunt natural and you can always ask send an email to me and ask But you know like image building. That means you're just being on podcast interviews in your guest articles you submitting content everywhere because your image is what you write about and talk about and if it's revenue than it's not so much appearing all over the place. It's literally traffic in and convergence so to get traffic end. You're either doing ads or you're doing organic and together ganic through content. You gotta rank on google and another to rank on google. You got to wink to content constantly so that piece of content keeps ranking higher. So those are like some things that i would start out with can give you more but i think as anybody who's starting out i've seen the so many times those are good things to take away. Think about get your feet wet with then reach allen i can send more tips more action items more things that you can like start implementing 'cause it's it's overwhelming. Sometimes you hear somebody talk about stuff to do. I don't know there's just stuff coming at you all the time so i don't want to give too much. We wanna keep this in causley. You know you cannot. Should he do it because a lot. In china we must be the end up doing that. Thank thank you so much for. Does the end. how it's they can go to my site. Kerm inally prolific dot com criminally prolific. That comes so prolific. it's criminal. That's how my wife named it. Currently dot com. There's a contact link there. They can check out pr converts which is my online education platform. Which i am focusing. Most of my attention on now The cliquot like a chat icon. Erica can send a note on. Pr that converts But yeah those are my two sites criminally prolific dot com. Pr converts maintenance gonna add on his details in the link in the description was mentioned all the resource them. Dmitri talk about checked any description mugging. I can stay in the show notes like watching youtube yet. Check the show notes on and he tells has getting. I would say like. Don't your rates to reach out and ask questions and it's important. You need to meet trees one of those people who's opened kinda support and you. You need anytime you have question. Now help you help. Customers who left us We're not paying us any money at all. I still go back and forth on them. I still help them. People that email me with questions alva- respond to most people You know if they have a question about pr and point them in the right direction. Yeah and also check out opposite. He's course yard advert make sure to gain to be. Is you know already. But i think the even going for team like you and all that stuff or you actually do podcasting you just go and then easiest to perform for you like each same people so kind of like when it with dimitri like always say. It doesn't cost anything question. Is you have any. Because i know nate in be like a little bit Dumped just like dumb question doesn't have any but no ask away fine. I was in your shoes. Like two thousand seven or eight failed down so many times trying to pitch. And i sent all sorts of things too fearful. I had all sorts of ideas about journalists. Wanna see and want to know. I would come up. I would send like letters to Like right out letters. Try and find their address. Put like stickers. I just i had also so weird ideas of how a journalist might want to see daddy steaks and you can avoid them by. Just reaching saying if dea that's like a little bit off caliber just ask me. I'll tell you it's gonna worker some stuff works you know. Grasshopper did an awesome campaign. Where they put. I think crickets their chocolate covered. And they are grasshoppers and grasshoppers. Grasshopper is like a phone company but it's the name as grasshopper so they put real grasshopper hoppers. They were dried dipped in chocolate. They put them in letters and they just sent them to all of these journalists and bloggers so all of these journalists and bloggers got letters. Go chocolate covered grasshoppers. That's crazy and they got tons of press and pr on that cnn. Orbs not dust series. I it's kind of like funny like oh look at what happens. This brand is doing like stunts like that. Were usually it's hard. It's like hit or miss like you can do hundreds of these but thank you so much but sherry nods valued today. Thanks for having me. We hope you enjoyed today's episode for more resources. Checkout www dot. She wins mastermind dot com. And don't forget to subscribe rate and review. See you next week.

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Buffoon Middle School | 4/19/21

Pat Gray Unleashed

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Buffoon Middle School | 4/19/21

"Path grade is here on the please radio network. Thank you so much for starting the week with us. It is pat. Gray unleashed triple eight. Nine hundred and thirty-three ninety-three also at pat unleashed on twitter. Brentwood you'll find a brand new bingo card pinned to the top of the page which starts out with in the upper left hand corner randomly shot at civilians not that razed villages and fashion reminiscent of genius con that part raised villages in a fashion reminiscent of ginger con. So john kerry sing that. Jeffy share some click bait pudding. We lost him lost Some sad music sappy music playing during a sad story to get you in the mood. I'm mostly vegetarian. Gang turn dot net whole thing. This from the preacher is from the preacher. He's out get out get. Don't get what you have this nazis down out then that's followed by no keith shares. Animal video oh wait why then justin trudeau talking about how. He's going to save the planet by eliminating his bottled water intake. Are we going to need to thank. You recently. Switched to drinking water bottles out of water bottles plastic. Sorry away from plastic to Paper drink box water bottles. Sorta three drp box water bottles sort of things. You know what. He's talking about the drink box. Water bottle you know thing. Does he know what he's talking. No clearly does not put that in your pipe. Perhaps although that's not part of the part of the square peg then we've got that's interesting ivan. That's interesting oh it's actually the it's actually the volume himself doing that. Saying that if i can find it by the way if you do play bingo and you do get you know the five in a row you call eight eight eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and if you're the first person through then you get the win. Thirty five bucks in the pat gray shop exactly we. Can we take some calls. I've had whenever we wanted to eat. We have calls that are on there now. Calls yet. What people call to get on the air i mean. Do we have that number. It's right there you know. Do i have the cool number in front of me. Oh i'm so sorry That's interesting interesting interesting. We've added the ivan part because you gotta know he's talking to ivan right. That's interesting so that's interesting. Alec baldwin says it you know that's the square. Hits you right where you live and we go to the next line jeffey talks about. Tv show clubbing. Baby seals Then just got this if you don't have at the ready I haven't i think should know i hang on. How dare you. How dare you from greta. Irregardless are we gonna do that. Somebody's going to have to fall on the sword there and use a word that is not a word. I don't care what webster manala nia our one of our squares and of course. Nancy pelosi's famous. I just love this. 'cause it's not even true if she would have said it right. You can scream. Mountain does not say that a person can shout we'll waffle theater. Of course the actual thing is fired that everyone you can't scream fire in a crowded movie theater. Actually no you can. You can't recommend it would you. It's not against the law. Gobble up or down. Douchebag key keith. Seeing country boy. That'd be inspired them and then of course this Crazy libs screaming in her car. Bond right so inconsiderate shoe so inconsiderate diana honest now but she did exactly what happened. She did exactly what this very sweet young woman Didn't want her to do and she did. It anyway. really sad isn't it really really sad. Keep in mind. There's probably a boyfriend while maybe not just boyfriend girlfriend has been wife whatever she rolls. I don't know not not suspend believe you're saying she probably couldn't Snag a significant significant other. That's what i'm saying. That is what you're saying Stop thank you thank you. That's that's good advice. Just gut checks. Stop right there keith. If you would please all right triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety three. This is very exciting. The global citizen concert for global cove awareness is coming right up. It's gonna happen and is it happening. Okay saturday may eighth on abc. Cbs fox youtube and i heart media radio stations and the iheart media app. Are they iheart radio app. Eight o'clock eastern Except for fox which will air it in eastern. So i guess they're going to. They're gonna tape it and played back now. The host is going to be Selena gomez also jennifer lopez will be there though foo fighters h. e. r. You know that band her. I don't know anybody. No no look eddie vedder of pearl jam all joining forces for this like. That's when was the last time you heard from eddie vedder for pearl jam. Co owner tune spoke in say to her. Hey eddie. Yes we keys Year nether sewers as owner much of a pro jam. Fan really big pearl jam. Obviously i love them and so they're doing a concert yes to make us aware of covert i mean. I don't know if you've been on the about it. The last fifteen months why. They haven't said something about this before now. Now we're going to be aware believe it. The concert to reunite the world. Okay we go. Selena gomez said. I'm honored to be hosting vacs. Live concert night the world there. We are yeah so it's a get your vaccine the vaccine thing. Yeah this is this historic moment to encourage people around the world to take the covid nineteen vaccine when it becomes available to them call on world leaders to share vaccine doses equitably and to bring people together for a night of music in a way that hasn't felt possible in the last year. I can't wait to be a part of it so exciting that's great. She's made me really excited about it as a global citizen. Yeah who's such a fan of of the vaccine that that concert will have the safety seal all the health other. So i'm not gonna watch not gonna watch it if they don't yeah. I know i'm not safe to watch it if they don't have it. Here's some of the goals of the concert. Ooh we have goals. Yes increase donations of vaccine doses too low income nations. Okay bill vaccine confidence and promote vaccine uptake. Helping to ensure access for everyone everywhere. That's very very thoughtful of them. Number two Column for therapists corporations to donate enough dollars for doses to help vaccinate the more than twenty seven million heroic health workers that are on the front lines. In the poorest countries that need access to the vaccine most call on governments corporations and philanthropists to invest in additional. So all this is about is twisting the arms of people to try to get them. I guess to vaccinate the the third world right and additional twenty two point one billion to get two billion vaccine doses and other medical tools to the poorest countries disseminate financial commitments to reach. It'll responders supporting health. Education hunger equity and climate efforts. Here we go the trojan horse. This encourage pharmaceutical companies to commit to selling covid nineteen vaccines at production price. Earning profits at the expense of human lives will impede progress and build vaccine confidence by educating and empowering audiences to get answers to the tough questions about the covid nineteen vaccines. You don't would help. People would stop dying from the vaccine injections just a little thought that i had over the weekend. I thought you know. How do we get more people to take this. Well if less people die from it yeah. I think that would help in. You know how we save at least one. Life is by not taking it. Because you can't die from it if you don't to ticket yeah. And and honestly they've seen that the big road block for the covert passport Worldwide is these third world nations. Because if if they can't get it then they're not going to be able to enforce it globally. So that's exactly what this concert is for us. It's to make sure that we can all get on board with the covert passport. Because we're gonna make sure that Third world nations are getting the vaccine. The vaccine couvert tuned pairs poor Covid nineteen to go way to go their in two. I mean how many times does you have to clearly put it to you before you finally get it. Yeah i think that was the hidden track on ten pearl jam. The might be. Do you actually have the pearl jam. Ten album versus. And oh so you are actually a pearl jam fan. Apparently you were at one time. I mean i like some of their stuff. Yeah i'm not a how could you not you know. Teenage angst hate. My parents have had a crappy. Life didn't hate their me hated. His parents hear me hated. Everybody were rare. Wasn't actor thing though that everybody's they were abused. Everybody's abused all their songs are about abuse. Hold on let me go. Ninety them all right. I mean there is a common thread in there. They've got they do a good job with more mellow songs like Old woman behind the counter in a small town is a good one. I love. I know you do love There's i wish they came out later. Wish or something like that and that's a good one. They've got some mellow songs that aren't about killing people. Oh okay well good so. We named to off the bus. Those got the two of them. You got to a whopping two. That's pretty good. Their catalog is probably a hundred or more But you got to so nice job. We got there. Yeah all right speaking of vaccines vaccinations. Making people understand how important they are. I mean this has nothing to do with that. So wait wait. We could find something there. You actually get to go to maxine. I was thinking vaccine. Maxine can we get a vaccine to maxine vaccine where we don't listen to her crap can't take it so bad you know. Member which hammer trump. This is after she incited. Everybody telling me get inde- everybody's faces. What do you think is going to happen when they get into people's faces you think that's a way to promote peace and love. I don't think so anyway. She was doing it again. She went clear minnesota to rile up the crowds. That we're going to get friendly guilty guilty and if you don't we got we cannot go away and not just manslaughter right. I mean not natural. John mara unconcerned is what happens if we as i. She's people i didn't hear you. What what should protesters do. Well on the street at. We've got to get more active. You've got to get more confrontational more confrontational. A i see so we gotta get more people in there. Being more confrontational tell me. That's not inciting violence. Of course it is and when the violence breaks out. Is anybody in the media. The mainstream media again. It's gonna look back to this moment and say that member what Maxine waters did. She incited violence. I mean it's a fun little game if you thug in what these radicals are saying and you and you put into the mouth of donald trump. How would the press release. My gosh. that's all they'd be talking about. It is all they talk about. Cnn story every top of the hour would be that. Wow all right. Let me take a minute until you about rough. Greens been talking about this for quite a while now ref. Greens is a supplement. It's a powder that you sprinkle over your dog's food. It's really simple to do. My dog loves it. So does sorta glens and stews but with that simple act. You're just you're providing your dog with essential vitamins and minerals probiotics omega oils. All of that kind of stuff that makes them healthier. Most dogs love this stuff right out of the right out of the gate. mind certainly did but We have heard stories about some picky dogs. Who take a while to adjust to it. So the first thing we'd like to find out is will your dog like it enough to eat it. And that's why they want to send you a free of rough greens right now. All you have to do is pay for the shipping rough greens too rough greens dot com. That's are you f- f greens dot com or call. Eight three three rough dog pat ray. Okay the bill co founder patrisse cullors. We had a story last week. She's gonna re On a real estate buying spree buying five homes four homes. I guess all across the country seems like a lot of buying for somebody. Who's at the at the helm of what a nonprofit organization marxist marxist yeah anna marxist a are trained marxists are trained marxists excuse me are trained marxist trained marxist okay trained marxists who seemed to be taking full advantage of capitalism. Although i don't know what job she has that is really successful. I guess the blm co founding thing is enough since bill been donated to the tune of almost one hundred million dollars. Now you don't suppose she's taking a few of those dollars no do you know. Why would you suppose that. Maybe had a hefty salary along the way. Anyway she explains why owning multiple extravagant homes doesn't betray her marxist principle so a critique though from the love credit sheet say if you are trademarks if we're talking about a certain kind of radical politic that extravagant homes of any sort or multiple properties of any sort is itself contradictory to the ideology that you hold so it's not about having money per se but that it's about or about probably per se. But it's about there being a potential contradiction between your experience and your lived practice critique syria or freaking hippocratic is critique that is wanting and i say that because critiqued. It's the the the way that i live. My life isn't direct support to black people including my black family. I did for so many folks who are able to invest in themselves in their community. They choose best in their family. And all i've chosen to do. I have a child having brother that has severe mental illness that i take care of a moreover support. My mother mother and i support many other family members of mine. And so i see my money as i see it as my family's money as well as unlike every other capitalist on the face of the earth none of them even for their families. They don't Their money's all about them. She's got to do a better job of spinning. Yeah that's that's that's this isn't the government's supposed to take care of of those people in her life Seems like it. Yeah if you're a marxist yes yes. Wow that's pathetic. That was a week defense. Yeah i wonder how how long it took her to come up with that because she had to see the stuff online so she knew the question was coming eventually and in fact they probably worked it out before the interview and you thought for just a second she was going to say. I invest wait. What by myself into my community in. Yeah yeah or her family Okay all right. Yeah we should see for. Mom moves into one of those abodes and her brother. Let's just see if If he deavere family members sure those homes the california has that nice guest house in the backyard. No yeah it does show probably yeah hanging out there. A in the meantime brianna. Taylor's mother know brianna taylor or boyfriend shot at police when they when they came in in the middle of the night and police returned. Fire not striking the boyfriend. But but killing brianna taylor instead. Brianna taylor's mother. Now slamming black lives matter saying that the organization is a fraud and says they've never done a damn thing for us way. She's just sweet. Surprise patrisse cullors just said i invest in myself and my family in the black community. Yeah here's here's a prime example of someone who could use your help. The mom brianna taylor not gotten a penny according to her To me palmer slammed black lives matter movement Calling it A fraud in a facebook post. She gave credit to friends family and local members of the community for supporting her family. After briana was killed in the post she criticized black lives matter louisville chapter and called kentucky state representative attica scott. A fraud Scott is a democrat was pushed to promote no knock warrants. Don't we wants to prohibit them not not Not continue them. I've never personally dealt with. Blm louisville and personally have found them to be a fraud and in reach out to the mon- new p- brown. Taylor's mom didn't make contact with them. That's amazing she also attack. Blm louisville for raising money on behalf of bryan his family and yet they've never done a damn thing for us when we needed it or asked man how surprising that is. Aren't you stunned. I thought black lives matter was was just meant was set. Up was founded to do things like this to take care of brianna taylor her family but but no apparently not meanwhile in stillwater. Oklahoma police arrived on the scene as a homeowner tried to get into his house during a bill in march. What happened there trying to live here getting my driveway. What's the guy on the big guy show look starts it and then he backs up. I look at that matter guy is shoving out right this guy just saying i want to get to my house okay. Oh the cops are going to settle. They're gonna fix this here. We go on. Take him away. They're just gonna talk to while. I'm sure that's all they're doing is they're talking to watch. This is talking to him. Wait wait no now. They're handcuffing him. She literally the guy was trying to turn onto a robe to get to us. House got out of his car and then was assaulted. And now he's in the back of the paddy wagon would even say that. What do you even say. They roll up immediately grabbed the homeowner unbelievable. I mean what does it take. That's visi i mean. Did you notice that. The road was blocked by police officers. So it wasn't like an official roadblock. Yeah they were blocked by protesters. That's that's the road to his house was blocked by protesters and he's just trying to get home and he's like. Hey i lived there. Come on look out. let me through here. And then he starts getting shoved in cop show up and now you're off to jail on believable unbelievable. We have this video of how how maybe you. you handle. A thug Somebody who's a costing you see if this is a lesson. Oh no is that a knife is face. Or yeah yeah. It is can't do screen like a stuck pig. Wow so he wasn't so tough guy responded to him i just i live for hearing scream. Can we hear that one more time. Please that is the greatest sound of the weekend right there. Just listen to this kid. Rush up a nine hundred and the guy goes. Are you serious boy. Then it gets body slammed into the basement. Wow gotta love that. That's cathartic video. Were they trying to rob him. Yeah i don't know what was going on there other than i love that we have to see that another fifteen or twenty times. I want to save that into was all we need to feel. Good file rob. Yeah like on dark days we come in here and we just start playing videos like that squealing. He does tourism video seriously. I mean that was an impromptu scene from deliverance. Apparently playing out there in the middle of the street. Yeah i love how yells is starts getting punched in the face. Okay okay okay okay okay. Sorry we're gonna finish this little encounter. And then he gets slammed to the pavement face. I ooh that had to hurt. L. had was pretty effective so so kids don't run up to people in A good take them because you never know Yeah it's going to be waiting for the other end there. Maybe a a big dude who is willing to defend himself that that might be. What's awaiting you ned. beatty sh- end up sounding like man triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. Andy pat unleashed on twitter. Did you see that elon. Musk beat out. Jeff bezos for the nasa contract. They both wanted it. Space wanted it but so did blue origin because going back to the moon and who's rocket is going to take them there to be spacex. Oh wow i love it by the way. Breaking news just happened just now. They've successfully flown that helicopter on mars by the way. How cool is that all they have. Yeah oh that is very cool anyway. Back to the hopefully. We're gonna have some video of that. Yeah so But washington post acknowledge. The decision was a huge blow. Forbe's those who has long been and by the way he owns the wash. Wow who has long been fascinated by the moon and has for years wanted to be a part of the effort to return there and yet He he got beaten out by elon. Musk and the whole things in his own newspaper. Cool with other. Recent partnership contracts for space travel nasa has often selected multiple companies to encourage competition and to intentionally create redundancy. Just smart in case one falls behind or can't complete their work. The initial phase of this contract though was awarded to three companies spacex blue origin and dynamics which is a defense contractor. Selecting just spacex to continue alone is a vote of confidence from nasa which is kind of interesting. Because you've had several explosions of the rockets as they've tried to run them up into space and then bring them back down safely Almost all of them have blown up on landing which probably isn't ideal especially if you're going to be inside one of them and you want one of them to take you to the moon. I want to be fairly confident. It's not gonna blow up underneath me. I'm not sure they've inspired that kind of all. Maybe they have because they got the contract. They've also developed a variety of rockets that have carried satellites cargo astronauts into space even the first commercial space trip to the international space station last year. Meanwhile president biden nominated former. Senator bill nelson to head up nasa and he's expected to be easily confirmed At a hearing this week so we'll see but very cool elon. Musk wins again guys out. I've got a pretty good track record. Although on the other hand there is a problem. With letting your tesla drive you around places own and not controlling your own destiny ono. Who little incident with a tesla. That is just really tragic. We'll tell you about that coming up. In just a few minutes walk with tweets here ditch jones tweets You'd figure global citizen concert have brands bands from all over the world. Not just america. Yeah yeah. I mean if it's global right attack. Yuki based on eddie veterans lifelong stance supporting abortion and his performance on unplugged. I'll pass on his medical advice. Thanks but no thanks Jim eagle jim kurl. On steroids tweets gladly send my vaccine to a needy person in a third world country. That's very sweet very generous. Same here don't tell me. Americans aren't generous. Thank you of course. I'm assuming here that. Jim eagle is american. Which is maybe something. I shouldn't be doing Cith rhino tweets third world countries. Hey how about you do a concert to get rid of dysentery. Instead of a stupid vaccine banks Stranded alien sure those one point four million dollar homes are investing in her community. She's fighting for Patrisse cullors of course if you missed that discussion Had some really unfortunate. We were just talking about a on. Elon musk and spacex company Something else that that has happened a few times. I mean not that many think. It's fairly rare but when you turn over the the driving duties completely to your vehicle to your object. Ooh that's sometimes a really bad idea Down in the houston area. There was really bad crash. Two people know really yep Tesla a busted up in the two people died just sad. I don't know how you get comfortable enough. Yeah at this stage. They said nobody was in the driver's seat. No they had confidence enough that they weren't even in the driver's seat. Oh so. I don't know if that was you know i don't know shouldn't speculate. I suppose about what they were doing but Just to turn it over to the to the car like that. We're not there yet. we're not. We may be at some point. You know it might be that you're going to see the Minority report type cars. Just take you wherever you need to go. And travel up the sides of buildings and all that kind of stuff but we are not there yet. I mean it'll drive okay for you on a straightway on a freeway and probably break before it slams into the back of some other vehicle. You can count on it to pretty much do that. Maybe changed lanes a few times. But i would never count on that thing to do turn maneuver the way it needs to in the city you know. There's there's just certain things that it can't do extremely well right now that we've talked about before just getting into your car and going to sleep and let it drive you to work well. Maybe one day we'll be there but that's gonna be. That's a long way away from me. I'm to have to be pretty. Well convinced that it can handle that. Would you be comfortable with that. There is no way i would do that. I'm just thinking of. I don't know these these taxis right. These airborne taxis they're working on to There's really no form of transportation where i'm going to be comfortable at this point anyhow of just sailing along smoothly enough for me to take a nap. No if it's not a human behind the wheel right. I just no no but you know it would be interesting to to do the math on that. To see what. The percentages of crashes with automated vehicles and those that are controlled by humans. I'd love to see the percentage there. Yeah i would too My understanding was that four. G is not is not adequate to do the job completely. Five g is and that's why five g will be so important eventually once it really kicks in because it responds fast enough so that your car could actually do most of the things you wanted to do. And i'd like to preface this by saying. I absolutely do not know what i'm talking about. But if it's five g right Is it as simple as there was a bad cell signal where that car hit the tree tied saying yeah like oh you know like if you're talking to somebody on the phone and they drop off hell that could be your life right there again. Yeah i don't know what. I'm talking about other than i'm with you. I am not giving up control at this point. No i just become ever will be able to. It's scary enough. Just let go of the wheel if you're on a straight away you know if you're just you're driving for miles and you got a straight path and it's not crowded and there's very little traffic then i might turn it over but i'd be ready to grab the wheel. I'm not sleeping on my need to you. Know i'm not i'm not looking down. And we've we've seen reports didn't we did have a video of somebody who's it looked like the ass sleeping thinking. Somebody took a video of him as the drove by and look at their asleep in their cars driving. Wow you got a lot of confidence in that vehicle and that technology lot more than i have. Yeah good luck on that. There was another really Sad crash this one happened In a lowry hill tunnel in minneapolis. here's what happened there. I'm not sure if this is a self driving tesla situation on this one. Okay he's still. They're still preparing then Getting ready to go But we also have a bunch of other things to talk about bill. Maher bill marr. Once again stepping up and making a little bit of sense on his show over the weekend here he actually says liberals been wrong about covid. Get this but what about liberals you know. The high information by the science people ankara. In a recent gallup survey democrats did much worse than republicans in getting the right answer to the fundamental question. Thank you what are the chances that someone who gets cove. It will need to be hospitalized. The answer is between one and five percent. This is amazing. Forty one percent democrats thought it was over fifty percents another twenty eight percent but the chances at twenty to forty nine so almost seventy percent of democrats are wildly off on this key question and also have a greatly exaggerated view of the danger of covid to and the mortality rate among children All of which explains why. Today the states with the highest sheriff's schools that are still closed or all blue states so if the right wing media bubble has to own things like climate denial show. I shouldn't liberal media have to answer for. How does your audience wind up believing such a bunch of crap about yes. We're right on climate change to bill report. Look into it. Yeah says the media won't stop putting pictures of the beach on stories about cove and even though it's looking increasingly like the beach shoot. Is the best place to avoid it. Sunlight is the best disinfectant and vitamin d is again to a robust immune system texas lifted its covid restrictions recently and their infection rates. Went down in part because of people getting outside. Let the sun and wind do their thing. We've been talking about that. Yeah four year. Yeah sunlight outdoors. It's great i mean. He's he's clearly sick and tired of too and he's actually doing some actual research which is nice because he doesn't on every issue like i dunno climate change for instance But here he is talking about how republican governors have been right along too many liberals. That can't be right because texas and beach. Loving have republican governors But life is complicated. I've read that. The governor of florida reads but apparently the governor is also voracious consumer of the scientific literature. And maybe that's why. He protected his most vulnerable population. The elderly way better than did the governor of new york s thank you. Those are just facts. I know it's irresponsible of me to say the. Here's what i'm saying. I don't want politics mixed in with my medical decisions. That's great good stuff. I hope it penetrates that audience because They need to understand the truth. You look at those polls and you see why were up. Such were up against such incredible opposition to opening things up. They just think that if you get it you're going to die if you get it you're going to be in the hospital or dead and they. They really don't know what they're talking about. We take one minute. Tell you about score master. This should make you happy Getting your best credit score possible. The average american has ninety seven points. They can add to their credit score. Ninety seven points but of course they don't know how to do it score. Master does score. Master isn't credit repair. Its credit science and it helps you get your points really fast. In fact the average score master user adds sixty one points in twenty days or less and getting your plus points fast can save you a fortune if you're going to Apply for a loan or credit card. Refinance your house. 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The folks who own guns they support universal background checks on of them think we should not be selling assault weapons. Absolutely name get out and he is a weapon that can hold one hundred rounds or forty route or decide what they need wrong when he and i'm not going to give up towards done. Wow so who. In god's name needs it's none of your business. Would i need or don't need. You have no idea who needs or why we've shown reasons to need. I mean first of all. Maybe you're not a very good shot and you're going to need these shoot multiple times to hit whatever target you're shooting. Yeah or or maybe you are out in the woods and you get surrounded by a bunch of wild boars. Remember that video we watched the many. Were there at least thirty. Just coming out of the woods spilling out surrounding these three guys. Oh and they needed multiple bullets To fend off these these wild pigs. here's a hypothetical. Let's just say you're going out to your car in the morning and a bobcat attacks you you you want access to yes. It's not just a hypothetical right. Watch this morning out for a jog. Their fitness coffee out their car. You sure do man now. The cat is in. The carriers attacked the bodycam tax. Looking at he comes around here. Hold me bob. Then draws his weapon all shirker. Jack is this lady giving the middle of it coming back there anyway. Did he ever shoot it do we do. We don't know the tape stops. Because he didn't want peter showing up. Yeah no kidding yeah. It doesn't matter that the bobcat was actually attacking people that wouldn't matter. All you had to do is go back in your house and call the authorities. Let them remove it only. It's all you need it to do. Might arrest me as we learned earlier in the program. The bobcat goes free. What a weird situation. But that shows humans who are invading that bob cats natural habitat of the story. That's a lesson that's the lesson that will take home. No it will take. Away is an arm yourself. Oh and be armed at all times because you never know when a bobcat jump out in the tech your wife right because you have encroached on it so again building. Homes is shouldn't lamb. No no no again. You wanna recall the lesson and lesson. I want to be prepared prepared and have have have a firearm right on you at all times. So that if a bob cat attacks you now. Why is a bob cat attacking me. Why isn't it in. its own habitat though. That's what i'm confused. Because they're dumb animals okay and he doesn't know this has just wanted way too far from home. Yeah go home honey. I mean you're going to take some hot. Lead would serve hundreds of miles away. What do you need. yeah all right. Yeah i it's a good lesson. He was telling me recently. Who was this. I don't even know my son actually like these bears right. They kick a bear out. And then that's how they wander into cities by themselves so because they're trying to find their own place in the world right and next thing you know. They're in your driveway. Your driveway attacking your wife and your picking him up and throwing them on the lawn. You've probably gonna get in trouble just for that. Oh yeah how dare you manhandled. Little tiny bobcat like that. How you exactly how. That's pretty intense. That actually picked the thing up. Yeah listen to me. Borough only room enough for one of us in this driveway and then it had the nerve to come back at them. That should have been enough for the bobcat to leave. But it wasn't wasn't what dumb animal dumb animal should have that thing checked. The turtles turtles are stupid. Who thinks more stupid turtle turtles finals words so stupid. Good strong and driveway years. When i see straw. I in my mile straws. Don't but determined country version lake desert the dying beautiful beautiful at least at least. The bob cat didn't have a straw. Its nose you had that going. Yeah probably got bullet up his nose though triple eight. Nine hundred and thirty-three ninety-three more pat gray unleashed coming up. This is bad gray unleashed unwelcome. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also pat unleashed on twitter. We're carl smith tweets. Does bill maher have a twin. How can one guy be so spot on at times in such an a hole at other times. It's a really good question. It's selective editing west's tweets. I could watch that video of that guy getting what he deserves all day we got uh squier and there is he's there is okay go. Oh hey wow okay okay. Sorry dude you deserve this. And then he's body slammed to the pavement The st forty two tweets. Why doesn't spacex space x. Just borrow some alien technology from the military and that's a good question. They're weighing be devoting. I don't feel safe sleeping with an actual driver behind the wheel. No way. I'm snoozing with no driver. Yeah if as you know. The only time i feel comfortable sleeping in the car is when i'm driving That's when i fall asleep. We'll wait no. Maybe that's not no. It's not the ideal time to go to sleep. You're asleep behind the wheel for you. Know a fraction of a second and then i pull over because i don't wanna crash into anybody. Remember now you are really close to be at home right because you know we work some weird hours I don't know if you know like i. I have not been fully rested in twenty years. This shift yes. Andrew but Now i used to work overnights. And then i would go from the radio station to the golf course in work And twice. I fell asleep driving home after a while. Shift whatever eighteen nineteen hours or something scary man crush. No no like you. It's just not worth it. You need to pull over at that point. Yeah i totally get alone. That been totally. Did that todd curtis tweets no self driving vehicles for me until they can create a truly hack free. Computer system were of the world views tweets with all the sensor failure dash lights on in my car. I think i'll pass on the sensors driving for me. Yeah that's the thing we're just not there. I don't think we're just. I mean we. We've come a long way technologically but we're not to the point where you just entrust your car to get you safely someplace without any input from you. I don't i don't think so Brian more tweets is a tesla ready to drive. Glenn's camel catalina tone got got a task catalan driving to town in this. We believe is also a tesla. This happened in minneapolis over the weekend. -nother little crash where the guy hits. No no no yeah fiery not good. Oh then there's an another look at this From the other direction and You see him go right into the wall. Oh in the tunnel fees. i don't wanna ask right. Yeah you don't wanna ask. And i don't i don't know if they headed on self drive there too but that was a tesla. Yeah colleague that she's not good. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. Also we had biden over the weekend welcoming the The japanese prime minister. oh cool. And here's what he had to say. Okay i'll look at the virtue. Signaling their masks. Yeah you'll see that afternoon. Socially distanced the prime minister's brought out who you do anything something. Maybe go bomb proud. You are of the people of japan are in. You got a japanese boy coming over here and guess what he won. The master's all know japanese boy. Okay grown man to twin a twenty nine years. I know my gosh. Yeah you cute. Little japanese people here durable boy. What is he twenty nine. Not a girl. z. Y. yeah of course. He's a little japanese boy. It's good it's great. That's if that again here we go all the rule if it was trump What would be happening today. It would literally be the lead story on cnn. while they waited for minneapolis to burn. Yes yes which by the way. They're expecting the verdict in the show. Van trial this week. Sometime m- and That could go quite badly. Minneapolis public schools. Now that they're back in session and they're and they're you know they're they're in person learning. Yeah it's going to be remote learning beginning wednesday so wednesday through friday. They've already written off. They're like yep city's going to be burning to the ground. We're going to have school in home. Things they've got three thousand national guardsmen standing by to make sure that you know they can try to keep the peace in certain areas. You know business if you're a business and you're anywhere downtown or you know brooklyn center. Wherever these things are going on How nervous would you be right now. You're you're just about to lose everything you own. I sure hope not sure hope. Not but maxine waters was there over the weekend demanding justice demanding. The people get out in the streets and be more confrontational and saying that to her. It was first degree murder. We'll he can't be charged with first degree murder. He's not charged with that so he's not going to be convicted of that now. You just put that in people's heads. Well yeah if he's not convicted of first degree murder. Then we're going to go crazy seriously. I mean think about this if he's found not guilty minneapolis burns. Oh yeah he's found guilty. It's not guilty enough like you. Just send the different degrees. The minneapolis burns. If it's a hung jury oh my gosh look minneapolis burns. I don't know that there's a scenario. I don't either i don't either. It's about those businesses on lake street that you always hear about. That's where that cool. Bowling alley was remember that with the drone flew through and we had that video. Yeah i mean just that. That's now what. I think when i hear lake street so later this week when you hear about fires on lake street You can think about that. That owner of that bowling alley. Who opens up his doors. After the pandemic takes that awesome drone video to promote his business. And here we go. I just hope somehow they avoid doing stupid things there this week. me too me too. But you've got you've got politicians inflaming the situation maxine waters did all she could to make it as bad as possible. There's no way for first degree murder. You have to believe that. He planned that in advance that he set out that day to kill that black person. I mean that's asinine. It's ludicrous and again. Nobody's nobody's talking about her in the mainstream media like they would have Donald trump how she incited violence and riots. Yeah the only person in congress who is calling for her expulsion is marjorie taylor green. She's going to introduce a resolution today to get her kicked out of congress. Wonder how they'll go. Oh they will. They will make this races. Yeah exactly. I mean she's got shamed into dropping the idea of the america first cook caucus because America first. I guess is now racism. It's it's being racist. I'm not sure how that works. Okay but you're part of the clan if you believe it. Here's what Jim acosta had to say on. Cnn some gop leaders are discovering that apparently trying to launch a caucus around a racist rhetoric wasn't such a good idea after all spoke congressman. Marjorie taylor green says she slamming the brakes z. America first caucus the caucus was going to bring together a group of far-right lawmakers known for their controversial rhetoric. Punchbowl news obtained a flyer that said the new caucus would also have a called for a respect for uniquely anglo-saxon political traditions. Whatever that is more also peddling a series of debunked conspiracy theories about election integrity Cnn suzanne malveaux joins me now is on was we. We should all be grateful. There won't be a clan caucus in the united states congress there won't be a clan caucus in the united states congress. That is despicable. Okay so if you believe That americans american. Lawmakers should put america's interest i for all americans. They're not saying just white americans. Then you're a member of the ku klux klan. Since win is ari our country and putting it. I i mean that's part of the old that they take when they go into office. That's just amazing. You know what you just did there. You're gonna reference the oath of office or being in congress. Yeah that's code. That's racist call is you. Can't dog whistle that dog whistle darn it. Look i'm going to uphold my oath of office to the constitutionally dogs heard it then yes i was hoping for our audience to be able to hear them but they couldn't because they said it in such a frequency only dogs can right. Oh darn it wait a minute i don i heard i want. You heard it so wait a minute. Are you dog. i mean. I must be. You must be because humans hear dog whistles. Sweeps unexpectedly awkward rough rough. Wasn't it though. Yeah i mean even if okay the the white anglo-saxon thing traditions that they were mentioning. I i don't know what that's about or if it's even really in there but putting something like that so that we're not wiped off the face of the planet or whatever which has been some of the talk of late may so maybe that's why they included it but there is a black caucus in congress. Is jim acosta. Why can there be a black caucus. But there couldn't be this. America first cook and she call for a quote believe common respect for uniquely uniquely anglo-saxon political traditions. You should be proud of anglo-saxon political traditions. Let's go back the magna carta. I mean this is. You should be ashamed of that. Now if she had written pacific islander or concentric. Or whatever oh no that's cool perfectly fine but you try to give credit where credit is due on political tradition your clinton member. You're a freaking clan. Member pathetic really tired of it to really really done with it. Triple eight nine hundred thirty. Three ninety-three three also. The white house has backtracked now on the refugees decision because they got a little bit of criticism for it. They were going to roll that. The number of refugees to trump era caps. They're going to cap it. At fifteen thousand of friday afternoon. It was a sight to behold to get the news updates on this story two hours later they cave and lifted the cap to sixty two thousand five hundred right right so they were effectively. Admitting that trump did it right with immigration right so we're going to emulate that and then they were admitting they don't have the gym blitz to do what they should have done because they got some tweets that were negative guy. Jake yeah it would be fun if it weren't so damaging to the country But that's the problem of these things where you know. They're eating their own and they're caving in like this to the left. The far left wing element in their in their party. The biden administration is proving that they suck it governing. You know why. Because i suck at governing. That's what's happening here. Precisely wilson just collapsing our government. I mean yeah inside yes yes we are all right aaa now go ahead. Let's s here it out. He's expressing what. I'm feeling right now. We're not triple eight. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three thousand three more. Gray unleashed coming up pat gray. What is that. So i welcome. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also pat unleashed on twitter. Here's something interesting hispanic. American approval for president biden's handling of the ongoing border crisis is even lower than the rest of americans according to a poll from quinnipiac university. Just twenty nine percent of americans approve of biden's handling of the border crisis. Twenty nine percent means a good number of democrats are not happy with what he's doing either told this. Breaking rates of illegal crossings is starting to affect americans and of course the apprehended miners. Who were in a in the facility of their own china yeah. I don't know why we discriminate so much against minors. They're just trying to you. Know bring us precious metals and you know things things of that nature. Upper new gold sometimes reminding for gold. I mean i. I don't know why They're so discriminated against. I mean there's a kind of minor That joe biden prefers really not not the apps. Metal ones okay. But you know border patrol agents are coming out and and they are talking to places like daily caller and more conservative outlets. Where just like we said man. You make their life miserable. They're gonna come out and tell you what it's like. There are horror stories that they are expressing publicly. Now so it's twenty nine percent of all americans that approve. Its twenty seven percent of hispanic americans. That approve of his handling. And here's why when you when you have migrated here when you have immigrated to the us and you've done legally how much would you resent when thousands and thousands are just allowed to come across the border illegally and they don't bother with anything that you went through with all the red tape you had to overcome to become A legal resident of this country. I'd be pissed too. And i wouldn't be happy about the way he's handling the situation and he actually referenced it as being a crisis over the weekend you know like he was yeah he was getting into car and he anyway he referred to it as a crisis so i mean for the first time they know they know. They know they've screwed this up. They're still trying to blame it on trump but they know they screwed it up. But that's the only thing they can do. Now is blamed trump. Yeah we inherited this problem. No you didn't know it was not at this level when you took over so we we all pretty much. No that's a stinking lie. And they're just so demoralized. How could you not be a part of one of these organizations on the border or ice or homeland security and not just be like what. What am i doing with my life because they. In fact i think over the weekend phoenix. They pulled over a van. There were seventeen illegal aliens inside and they called ice to come and pick them up. Ice was like nah they said no. And so i think like the phoenix police or whatever. We're like okay. I guess You're free to go. So seventeen illegals just poof into phoenix. And how often is that happening. it's happening a lot. Plus the word is that they are. They're loading people up and sending him across the country to places in the east and and just housing them at like refugee centers and having them watched over by certain members of of the military and they know that about fifteen to twenty percent of them already have covid nineteen and they're not separating them and they're not keeping the the rest of the immigrants safe. they're not keeping the military personnel safe. Although i think i think most of the military if not all of the military insisted that they get the vaccine before they go but here they are just bringing them into the country and housing them at places all over the nation. And we don't even hear about it. They don't ever talk about it. Yeah that's one of the things that the border patrol agents are saying at these facilities that they're in close quarters with illegals our covid nineteen positive on a daily basis And if you don't show symptoms as a guard you just keep coming to work. We don't care just keep coming as what else are they going to do to nightmare. It's a nightmare but remember though. Remember now if you are in a federal building for more than a nanosecond and you don't have a mask on you'll be arrested. Yeah you're out of here. Put your button jail. It's just unbelievable. How does a nation continue with hypocrisy and the double standard on all fronts. all fronts. I mean it continues. But it just goes. Continues to go downhill. If we don't put a stop to it at least a waukegan illinois middle school has decided not to rename their school barack and michelle obama middle school. That's because pro. Immigration activists complained that. The former president had dismal record on deportation. Thomas jefferson middle school renamed. No no. i'm the guy who told britain off in a letter. Come on now come on man. Yeah i mean yes. The guy wrote the declaration of independence. So what he was a racist white guy who's rich and had slaves and that's all that we need to know and There's there's no mitigating circumstances whatsoever. I'm glad that used a bad person. You made it clear. His his biggest sin was that he was white. Yes lead with that. Obviously white casper. Casper jefferson middle school. That's what they should've named it in the first place right but now they're going to rename it after the late. Georgia rep. john lewis civil rights legend. Who died last summer. So there you go yeah and has extensive ties to the state of illinois. He visited there. I think once they didn't think he's been to illinois over. Yes he was from. Georgia buddy visited illinois and i think he wants mentioned chicago. Some some context sure was the at o'hare long enough to grab a meal. No not that long. I think it was like a thirty minute. Layover thirty minutes. Yeah for thirty minutes. He was there for thirty minutes. Nah and so he ended up getting the school named eighteen minutes to put the eighteen minutes together along with the seventh together. Got twenty two minutes. You sell it with eight minutes ads. You got thirty minutes. John lewis was in the state of illinois. Yeah thirty minute. You got a problem with that. No i hope not no. We're good. it's a fun world. We live in it is. It's gonna get even more fun because we got some dr pfau chief funnel. Your doctor saint vouch. he doesn't understand. How long is this. Do we have time for it here. Team second okay. Let's let's see what he had to say about. The joe was paradoxical that on the one hand they want to be relieved of the restrictions but on the other hand they don't want to get vaccinated. I don't make any sense. It makes perfect sense. Somebody who has a freaking brain You know a lot of people. Don't trust the vaccines sorry about that. found that you can't noodle that out for yourself. They don't trust the vaccine. They don't trust you because you've been wrong every step of the way every step of the way if in wrong every step and not just on this he was wrong about aids back in the eighties. Hung on everything. He's taken both sides of everything so people don't trust what you have to say about the vaccine our freedom existed before there was a covert shot. I don't know if he knows this. You don't need one to have the other well. He doesn't look at look at it like that. He looks at it as a as a medical issue. Oh yeah don't worry about the constitution. He's looking at it medically. I wonder if they'll name a middle school after the clowns. Yes you know they will. It'll be it'll be called a buffoon middle school. I got some tweets. Here from dan to ninety-seven notorious. Why isn't the federal government using the opportunity to vaccinate the illegals before releasing them. Reagan it tweets. Where is dr fauci on these migration illegal centers not social distancing. I'd love deer that way docker. Yeah you've seen the photos of the people jammed into these centers like next to each other. They're not inches apart. Let alone feet. What do you think of that. They're they look like a bunch of baked potatoes off. You know baking in an oven because they got the foil over the foil. Ridiculous small mouth bass. Kurt tweets the reason so many democrats disprove biden's handling of the borders because a good number of democrats want from thirty twenty. Two border states create their own state border patrol and state is department. Don't believe it's a federal issue to capture a deport illegals breaking into their sovereign states. There has to be a way if not yes. That's part of the problem. ontario's premier. Doug ford i guess. The premier is a governor but they also have a premier at the head of the federal government. So that's kind of weird. Maybe they should I don't know look to the south a little bit and see what these provincial leaders should be called. you can't call them. The same thing is your president or premier so call him governor but anyway here's what he had to say last week to protect a to all he wants to do is protect people. That's all we've implemented the strictest measures in all of north america and he's bragged for you in the difficult truth is yeah every public health measure. We have left comes with a massive cost to people in their lives. Oh well good. That's great but we've never shied away from doing. What's necessary really made the deliberate decision to temporarily enhance police officers authority for the duration of the stay at home order. Good going forward. Can we'll have the authority to require any individual. Who is not in a place of residence into. I provide their purpose for not being at home and provide their home address in other words. They're free to say that lake to seize the papers place. May i see you. People's that's what they're they're authorized to do precisely okay. What else also have the authority to stop a vehicle to inquire about an individual reason for leaving. Their residents inspectors will also be ensuring that those who absolutely must come to work are strictly following the public health measures for our employers and employees. Take note. okay. This is your last warning. All police powers to randomly stop someone walking down the street at polo are what happens if If a person refuses to answer the police questions so by issuing these new additional enforcement measures it allows police officers to ask the person why they are not at their place of residence and what their place of residence is and specifically to your question if you are not willing to comply then you are breaking the law if someone a their neighbors breaking these these new regulations And having a party in their yard that sort of thing should should people call police other neighbors in terms of people calling to switch to inform. Look we all have personal responsibility. It means saving lives. Think we have to think about what your social responsibilities are as an individual to make sure that you don't empower other people and invite a whole bunch of individuals to your home. Get out. I don't care what you have to say. Ouch ouch this out. Canada's yeah really is that was ontario so lease balked at doing that and the people kind of balked at having it done to them. They were actually last night or saturday night. Sending sos signals across niagara falls into to the national guard of new york. And they were flying the canadian flag upside-down first of all if you're reaching out for help from the state of new york. Yeah you're straight right so by now i mean they got so much flak for this fortunately They rescinded the orders. But you heard what they were planning to do. That is as ricco. Nghien as i think i've ever heard that is unbelievable. I made them unenforceable. That one woman was unapologetically fascist. She didn't care she was saying it was a good thing. Well if you're not going to do it we tell you and show you are your show us your papers Why then we'll have to drag outside and beach with club. We'll you into prison for just saves one life. Okay no not yours but mine okay. Because that's what i'm really concerned with is my health and safety. Don't really care about you. All righty popeye. Now that is. That was some chilling stuff. I mean that's kind of the feeling. We would have been stunned if we played that video. And those were chinese government officials. Oh yeah and we were reading the caption at the bottom. We would be like gosh. Can you imagine living under that tyranny. Yeah ted western world. Where have you been cheese. It's eh stood up against it though. Canadian citizens stood up against it and said absolutely not. We're not doing it. The key was there was it. the police refused least. We're going to do it. Enforce those laws yup those edicts. That's great that's the key. You gotta get your police to say. That's why i love didn't county so much during this lockdown situation here in texas right out of the gate. When abbot issued that stupid order on july second the didn't county sheriff was not enforcing it. It's great not happening. And by the way that edict that he issued what last year sometime a might be part of the reason that any in a poll done just recently here in texas matthew makaay ono in a a head to head head to head okay. Just a potential head to head. Because he hasn't obviously announced yet has talked about it. Talked about running for governor. He's twelve points ahead of abbott right now. No he's twelve points. I had no of greg. Abbott oh yeah and that's that's crazy. Oh my goodness crazy with came to freak would foot for matthew mcconaughey listener of texas. What kind of recall We came to freak. Here's here's texas is Cova numbers since we dropped. The stupid mandate right. Yup headed the right direction. Straight down straight down by the way washington post columnist says scientists are too afraid of doctor. Faustus influenced to freely criticizes research. That may have been connected to the covid nineteen outbreak. He josh rogin claims that scientists are unable to speak up about issues connected to foul cheese. Research at issue is the funding controlled by the nih. And the an aid which voucher she leads. Follow the money every time. Rogan claims fao cheese. The godfather of gain of function research gain function. Research was taking place at the wuhan laboratory. That's been named as the site of the corona virus outbreak. No official determination has been made of course about where it began but we actually do know where it didn't begin because we find that out on on sixty minutes a couple of weeks ago. Yeah i'm on the. Who team for a race. And if you're gonna work in china on corona viruses and try and understand their origins you should involve the people who know the most about that and for better or for worse i do. The team did look into the leak theory during a visit with lab scientists and deemed it extremely unlikely. Oh we met with them. We said do you all the lab and they said annually. Did you audited after the outbreak. Yes was anything found no. Do you trust your staff. Yes no just taking their word for it right. What else can we do can do. And we went right up to that limit. Them summit vetted in advance and the answers they gave. We found to be believable. I'm correct convincing gaijin. A cover-up destroyed evidence. They punished scientists who were trying to give evidence on this. Very question of the origin. Well that wasn't tasked to find out if china covered up. The i'm just saying doesn't that make you wonder. We didn't see any evidence of any false reporting or cover. How in the world that did in china there you go. I mean you. They asked you want him to do right. Look into it. i'll tell you something else. Lesley stahl asked one more follow up on a car. You a xenophobic right. Can and a racist in right and a racist and a bigot can asiana phob. Asian of open But the he said the. Who guy said we went right up to that line. Yeah what else do you want. Yeah we asked him. Hey did you guys release it from that laboratory no okay. We'll good no ri- well yeah we were just wondering can we look around. Maybe no all right. Well we're going to go home and we audit your lab. No no we don't want you to. Oh there's no reason to because we didn't We didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning yes exactly and so since we didn't start the fire. You guys can just go ahead and leave. Well you audited your own lab right no way they just send yes. Yes yes yeah. We get enough for me. Let's get the car voice did that's right off the do it once a year i think and have you done it since the pandemic yeah what about your ploy is. We talked anything. You talked your employees. Yeah we talked to him. Yeah and they said no. They said that they didn't do anything wrong. And so i love how he goes. The weren't vetted beforehand. Yeah the chinese communist party paid them visit before you got there bro. I mean that's crazy. As gets we asked him and they said no bizarre awarded you want us to do. I don't know investigate it investigate kind of implies more than just asking the supposed culprit if they if they're guilty of the crime maybe look into it because of course they're going to say no yes. They've said no the whole time. They tried to blame it on us. Blame the penguin pat or anything but us or blame the which wasn't it. The cia that supposedly planted it in wuhan i. It's madness. its own sure is so deal with it though but like you always ask. What more do you want. Obviously china has cooperated enough. Yeah now back off world. How many times do we have to be asked. And how many times do we have to tell you. We didn't do it. We didn't start. The fire was always burning. Says the world's been turning k. Song in my head all day. You're welcome thank you and your wealth seriously. No repercussions for china. Oh no your lifestyle. Change your income cratering your children missing out on athletics. Proper schooling right. That's debatable though. That's actually kind of blessing. Yes i'm torn on that But all of these things now blame your local and federal governments for what they've taken from you as don't let a crisis go to waste But china there's nothing going to happen to them internationally. No not a thing probably release another one just to see what your next by the way. Us intelligence has now labeled The confidence that they have in the story of russians putting bounties on american soldiers in syria. They have low to moderate confidence in that story. Yeah that didn't go to moderate confidence yet. Another trump narrative that we find out after the fact was a total stinking lie. Yup a total and complete lie which we knew at the time but man did they make a lot out of it and there's going up to the election on twitter drew holden who did an incredible job over the weekend with screen shots from different media outlets the time line and then ultimately the article lays it out beautifully. What ally amazing and this guy's a liar. They use several of these things against trump toward the end. You know that whole story about him. Disparaging troops were buried in france. Which was a provable. Lie because everybody who was around him at the time everybody was. actually there. Said it didn't happen. It's a lie it didn't happen. Well they just kept repeating it then the. Us intelligence comes out with this thing. That were bounties on american troops and trump didn't do anything about it because he's so in bed with vladimir putin really excited at the time that that didn't happen. That's why we're not doing anything about it because it's not credible and it turns out now. It's pretty much not credible fascinating that. I don't know three months after the election or three months after he takes office. We finally get the truth out of the biden administration. it just. it's really pathetic. A little late. I guess better late than never but still it just makes you because of the election results so many lies that got him elected neria peop- they don't care they're they're not covering it at all all of a sudden that russian bounty story has carries no interest to them. They don't have what the rush what now. I don't even know that story. we're not gonna look into Thanks for wondering though but we've got no interest in that. Yeah if you want to check out this the that just lays it out so perfectly Get to pat unleashed on twitter and we will post it there because it is it. It's gonna take a little while to go through it all but it's well worth your prepare to be pissed though because it's going to hack you're off a should it just really should triple eight. Nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also pat unleashed on twitter. This will pick up your spirits though following the news that the phoebe waller bridge had landed the female lead. Phoebe waller bridge is. I know one phoebe. And she's not even a real person really she's a call from. She's landed the lead the female lead in the next anna jones movie. I'm not familiar with her at all. I don't know who that is. But lucasfilm has found harrison ford's next co star in mads mikkelsen. I don't know her either. Ever heard of mads mads mikkelsen. She's set to join the next installment. There is going to be an indiana jones. Five i guess because indiana jones four was so good. I've heard good things about five about four and that's actually a lie. Nothing hood about a four was one of the worst movies ever made at big time movie like that. I mean where they spent a ton of money and it's done by a major film guy like george lucan. Maybe the worst film under those circumstances ever done terrible terrible is what now what were you saying. Wrong man's nicholson back doctor. Strange doctor strange. The bad guy guy doctor. Strange ways royale. Yeah see you know. Oh sure boop and that hannibal right sure. I can't believe. I forgot all of that so you can't believe i didn't know what to who with talking about. Yeah all right. James mangold is taking over directing range from steven spielberg. Who's still serving as a producer and is very much involved in various elements of the film. But he's not gonna produce it. Kathleen kennedy frank marshall and simon emmanuel will join spielberg as producers. John williams. My gosh is he still alive. Jon williams music. Yes wow he's worked on every score in the forty year old franchise including its iconic theme will also returned as composer. How about that. Wow what is he. Eighty eighty nine eighty nine. Wow good for him. The hope is to start production this summer. Man gold meeting with other talent for the roles in preparation for production pilot deep plot. Details are still vague. That indiana jones is now wheelchair-bound Do you have a ramp into this. Grammy most of the pyramids or or caves. He's going into awesome. Yeah it'll be good. It'll be fun. So the movie is set to debut. July twenty ninth twenty twenty two so almost a year and a half now. Another major franchise mickelson boarding after Coming onto the fantastic beasts movies. He replaces johnny depp. As grendel walled after depth parted ways with that whole crew because of his troubles with what's her face. I don't know the details on this but Apparently some police bodycam footage has come out. That proves his line. What really know again. There's there's the limits of my knowledge of the johnny depp. saga kit. Just throw that juicy piece out there and just let the wolves go after it. Okay well let me see if i could find something here. Yeah we'll have to look into that because he he was just found guilty or whatever. I use in britain right. Here's the headline from the daily mail. All right exclusive johnny depp. Says oh thank you pop up ad. That johnny depp says new police testimony and never before seen bodycam footage showing a tidy apartment proves amber heard is lying about blow out fight where she claimed the actor trash their penthouse in through a phone at her face. So the officer arrives in. It's beautiful green rice dean in beautiful Interesting so obviously He's fight for his life because he's getting cancelled everywhere and so yeah One of his last remaining allies was. Jk rolan rowling rolling. Whatever her name is on a river. She apparently supported him. She said look. He hasn't been convicted of anything. So keep him and she did for the last movie. 'cause these rumors were circulating then and she said no. I'm not dropping in from the movie. Well now they did now. They did so. That's interesting if he's got some new proof. Maybe that yeah some of what she said it really by reading this big headline yeah probably throws the rest of her story into doubt if the bodycam footage shows a pristine apartment and he said he trashed her apartment when he beat me up. Now if you visit like say my garage and any number of things could've just happened in there and obviously this wouldn't have applied if the cop shows up to my garage like what happened here. I mean i just everything. You can imagine vomited into my garage officer. Sorry wow yeah. So i mean. Good luck if he's innocent. I hope this helps. It's really sad. If he's innocent mean he got what he deserved if if he's not if he was really abusive to her but if she lied about it that'd be nice for that to be found out because he's i mean his career is over. I would think. And he's deeply deeply in debt guy. I mean he's but islands like forty homes. That's where the world. I was doing okay financial until i started buying a boss going down that rabbit hole a fire sale then turned into an obsession. And now i don't know what to do with these islands. I can't even get to because kovin have you tried to sell them to anybody or use gonna to it. I tried on ebay many bids. All right well you need an island. Not right now really. We'll talk at this cookie thing dot com. Catchy dot com. Kf downscale tomorrow

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Data Privacy with Justice Srikrishna

Ex Machina

1:02:52 hr | 1 year ago

Data Privacy with Justice Srikrishna

"It is possible that we're living in the most interesting times in human history. Technology has advanced so much that in many cases it is indistinguishable from magic. Our phones understand what we are seeing. Gaza have begun to drive themselves and scientists civil recreated the first designer babies but as much as all of this has made a live simpler. It has brought with it a whole host of new societal and regulatory challenges. The planet is reeling from the effects of climate change. Modern medical technologies are constantly raising new ethical concerns and as much as the data driven world we live in has made our lives easier. It is immersed in a surveillance state like never before. My name is russell martin. I'm a technology lawyer. And i love to explore the intersections between law technology and society. Last year. I wrote a book called privacy. Three-point all the trace the evolution of privacy in india and the rest of the world. I discovered that with each new technological innovation. We were forced to change the way. We thought about personal privacy. I'm deeply interested in these sorts of connections and for the past six months. I've been working on a podcast called x. Mark that explores these issues in more detail. Just as i was finalizing the last interviews of the first season of x makina. The government of india introduced the personal data protection. Bill in parliament after. Close to a decade of waiting. It seemed that india was finally going to enact a privacy law. Is i read through the draft. I was struck by how different this version was from. The one put out by the she kushner committee over a year ago. I've had numerous occasions to speak with justice. Secret out his thoughts on privacy and how he came up with some of the concepts that he had introduced in draft and i was eager to know what he thought of the government's draft so i went to mumbai and managed to get hold of him for an hour before he headed out for his. We talked about the draft bill and how it compared to his version. And what it all meant for privacy in the country. I had never planned to release data protection episode as part of my ex mark in our podcast but given the discussions that are taking place in parliament and before the joint parliamentary committee. I felt it was important that i shared this interview as soon as possible. So here it is a good razor for the first season of x makina. So i just wanted to before we start. I wanted to just understand. Justice recruit another man. And i understand that you were born in in bengal. That's what we should have. And that's you still consider that your home in some because you a lot of the band. I keep going to ban door us. Confess but nowadays. I've been very infrequent except for the to inside some of these seminars and events like this and then you did all your schooling in bombay. From the time of the three month old baby. Oh my goodness okay. So bangolo is not even a born in meadow. that's only technically born in bengaluru. Victory nurseryman soul and thereafter remained in bombay continuously except for one year stint in car-o-van house chief justice and about lovely five. But if you look at a lot of education into your life may not be entirely correct. But i'm just going to read through them Graduated with a bs. From ellison's tom college right From jalousie connect did from the university of bombay. Correct where you was. Second rank who's western. Don't ask him what is he could saw. A one hundred percent record judgeship from the And then e diplomat indian aesthetics. That i from bombay university. Okay were the reason for that. My life had enrolled for that and lectures were to be held in the evening. From seven to nine or something and I felt a little unsafe that my wife would travel all along in public transport all the way across the on so to solve the problem and so as not offend sensitivity. I said okay with also join so the both of us would go together. It's my car. After finishing the lectures not is i got involved in it but continued and stood first in class. So this is. This is why you a practicing lawyer. Judge judge judge of the ball mic. So why you would do. What would your classmates thought to have a judge in a big write up. In the one of the bombay newspapers i forget each one reach to highlight the fact that grandparents were attending classes and one of them to be the judge. And of course your few in in many languages in is what they say what. I'm sure there's more than i do. And i've lost but some particularly funds from the mindset university in sounds good and then also i can call us just whenever i speak to. You might manage to find the perfect son. Script seeing That in and of course. We talk about high-tech kinds of things. But somehow those things you just said centuries ago fit perfectly in in yeah. Oh you're from the picked up of dealer intuited. Let's just absolutely and you were lawyer practicing your employment industrial long. I practiced in the bombay affordable. Twenty eight and a half years before. I was picked up manage in the year. Nineteen ninety and my specialty was liberals liberals and of course you became a judge in ninety one and in ninety july nine hundred thirty eight to be precise and we didn't. I'm gonna say two years. Three years the mumbai riots happened it happened in december of ninety two and then they had to find someone to head the inquiry commission. You got a junior jets. It seems to be quite a serious responsibility. I have number three from the bottom of the list. And there were about Indian old people above me. The chief justice started going one by one from the top. And then it'd be one of them declined and to medically when it came to me. The chief justice me and i said i don't know anything about it but i'm willing to shot it but i had a serious misgivings but i when i was asked to believe i said i'm a practicing hindu and everybody knows that i sit in the court unafraid. Area money with the big decline my on my forehead. So that interest confidence in people because the hindu-muslim riots. So my team is asked me a quick question instead. Minu patani robes and sit in the court do continue to be a hindu or a muslim or anything else. That's annoying unsentimental way judge. Then she said that's the right spirit and sure be able to do it and thank god. I did so that must have been really difficult because it was because he does quite unchartered territory for confirmed. I didn't know what to do. Expect and what kind of Competition non-cooperation that would be from the state authorities from the police from the there are at least seventeen counselor in seventeen different interests who everyone of whom insisted and cross examining every witness for her to control your lot of thing and there was then the chief then chief minister mr manala. She was too because examined. Everybody wanted to headed glad. Tim and i thought they were out to. Just you know belittle him. So i said nobody will ask him anything. I ask him the relevant persons and also done all three beginning now discounted been easy because obviously look you know. We're recording this in the aftermath of some of violence over this nrc Issue And in hindu-muslim issues india always very fraught. It's just it's just the nature of this country For our young as you said third from the bottom judge to to take this up what were you. I mean what were you thinking. I apart from. The fact that you're practicing into this must have been really challenging young pickup bed on whatever. I kind of challenge. If somebody says you can shoot this jumping to it and then institute. I can do it. The need in fact that he's become a lawyer to tell you. The truth is really the story that story but not a big story can narrow in two minutes. I was studying for mobile. See i had. Boston played for massey. I wanted to do either nuclear physics or quantum physics mutual the great things in those this thanks to the atomic energy commission and told me baba in those there's no small ambitions on nuclear or quantum and fascinated me that right now time i dabble in the title understand how we relate to philosophy and things like that that's a whole different cosby. Must have a conversation that somebody someday. So i applied for it and then that was the just before the vacation vacation. We were having dinner at one time. My father was lloyd into the senior lloyd and the bloomberg and the supreme good. And i don't know how the argument started my father statement which i talked with it because he said you can't be a good lawyer unless you some kind of super brainer super intelligence or something and i said hey to be. A lawyer can be vegetable. He got me and he said what bush or it don't be roughly. It means it is easy to talk but difficult does short in practice and these next morning i've ended up to the law college admission and i paid my fees in the law. College and poor professor in the institute of friends was waiting for me. The job being the fees the path and then he got into panic home instead do. Are you having financial troubles. I'll pay the first. Please commend join so next day to go and pacifies him and equal angry with me. He's your fool. Why are you giving up a good career that you are in your view an uncertain future of a lawyer and then finally he's blessed me and to be a good lawyer for don't want to be able to scientists and so here and so scientists losses Laws i know. I put it the other way around. I say the loss of the legal community again in the scientific world so that's clearly what has driven you to take up these sorts of challenges and i got married. That was a good challenge. So the just to go to the The five years that you spent on this and eventually you came up with a report. The report was the put richer submitted in two thousand eight. I believe if i'm late. February and march eight two thousand nine hundred hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred nineteen ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety eight. The fact that this use will they indicate the culprit in the matter with bjp taking second bank was probably hurting the sentiments of these issues and pigment so when she become The ruling power in bombay the first thing that it will disband commission and they shouldn't notification saying that a lot of money and time invested not is come out of it so it'd be not continue with the commission terminated so for almost six months. They'll know commissioner. And then to the creed of mr spicer. The former prime minister that in that fifteen this term that he had done the last days before he resigned. He wrote a personal letter to mr minority. She done chief. Minister is too big. A public issue in michi- should spend the commission should immediately decided the commission for notification. Shoot distracting the commissioner levels. Gordon from where. I left up so after gap of six months i had to continue and then the government did. What did todd whatever the smart thing namely publish only enough number of report copies of the report as would go onto all their militias and melts and not even one extol calculus so there were no issue available not in the public domain and each in melty partner gobi but and the kept also hang onto till the last moment you know under the commission of inquiry zach the report table before the expiry of six months so debated for five months and the last day they will witness the monitor and then of course there was a big funeral. Lots of critical articles that were appreciative. Article is all kinds of things done but honesty a lot of accommodations. I've been given a lot of could think could come out of the i don't think either. The government decided are the government center sincere about implementing that. That's exactly what happened. In fact there was on petitions filed in the high court bill fighting the supreme court. Nothing daily seriously came out. But you've been on many of these committees since then you've been on the central commission You are also the the single person commission on that Address high court writes And then of course The facility Which is i guess. One of the most influential financial services reforms. But even that is. It's not the problem commented. Set up committees of experts and the expertise to make the report and give advice. Government will only pick and choose that which they wanted to do and reject the never going to accept advice from the point of view of whether it is good. These exactly the my story of all the commission's if you notice if i don't think they're completely implemented that no i it would be phenomenal because it is the most forward thinking financial services probably. That was my problem to thinking everybody. Then there everybody interactively using incident. The very beginning i had had a meeting with all the regulatory chairman and everybody congratulated me on the other box thinking and the subject about the me out of it. Everybody that seems to be thinking of dated. But still the they called upon you to become the head of state prediction committee and we've spoken in. You said you were about to pack up and they dragged you out of that Once again You seem the man of the are when they were these difficult things to this are not always easy enough to ask somebody to hold. The baby is crying. So why did you take this up. Is it because you again challenge. Because this is something that i never heard of. I didn't know what it takes involved from the back end of different sort okay. I'm taking headlong plunge into it. Let's see what the products and it's not. I mean not that. I'm of rockets and rocket science out of looks into it sciences. Watching happy to but it is much easier than advantage and okay. Let's have a look at it. So what's the background of the time i mean. Of course this was when other Was in the supreme court and a lot interesting development. I must tell you. I had just finished Bondi did the community on recommendations with regard to amendment law finished it. And i suppose you're right. I was supposed to take that to new york. I was telling the supposed to come back to the bonday kennedy metro go to new york so before i left. I got a call on my mobile from the minister. mr lewiston coupla. He's he sneakers up quick this year but com go nogo answered this com could be day. Is this committee thinking of bringing out a law and data protection. And then i want to please wait for us I said okay. And then i realize that they are no not only that i told him that. I'm going to get into america. I come back into these. New jimmy johnson. But you come into it. You're gone means okay. But when in a puzzle by was so insistent on friday on friday this. I touched the remember thursday this opium really holding them to at Gunpoint on the other shoe is being challenged. And everything's good adam. This content very the law that pertains to production in this country. So they wanted to mollify discipline. Good so monday morning. They wanted to announce and they did announce that we have issued a notification formulating committee and funding committee. Beach will go into this. And it's going to be added by parliament's go dead mr so and so and that seems to have sort of cool down good go them along and finally of the judgment came in the supreme court. Then i had to come back and not come back. I do some video conferencing tool beatings on video. Before i came back to india then be started off in our nest and then we decided we decided that it should be open and transparent so we held consultation meetings in five or six major centers where everybody was asked. people were asked what they wanted to save. It was put on the public domain and sponsors invited then be in the white paper saying the depositor tentative thinking and again output responses. The responses came. We considered the then. Long meetings were held each topped with titled submitted the government. And then. After i don't know i'm totally unaware of what happened. Thereafter delay london bodybuilding circulating and. Here is the bill Been these as different from the duff that submitted as a chunk cheese so i want to spend some time with the process. You just described it. This whole openness is not common When it comes to legislation in this country is really unfortunate. I think the deal is very good at coming up with Consultations but other than that. There are very few useful consultations the automobile and i i believe he did this with the. Fcc is for the first time that allowed cv said holiday. The the common new unified again later should make regulations. We are given a whole lot of professor app on from the update. Also joined the by me ethan. Shy shy person. I one of the boys lama and then. Pfp berry of said what in the methodology for regulated. the government's. I did that. And i wish more people would lead that. In fact was the law ministry would read their as because it is. It is a science i mean doing this properly is a science. It's as we can see through this third one thing every regulator for himself understand. What is the cost. Benefit is intimidated. He must say why are you doing get what is it. The depot is power and cost benefit analysis and then put it in public domain that is openness that inequality but today via regulators. Just come out with and then my ups are said something we have to follow it so you follow the same process with data protection committee and i guess a lot of the feedback that you must have got the process is i give some submissions. But he didn't listen to it and it wasn't incorporated put. What what do you have to say about that. Because stakeholders to find is this. You're right about fifty thousand responses obvious. The everybody's response cannot inc and you can take a look at this and then finally think the community feels the best out of it which can be inc unique opportunity for that matter if there is a decision that doesn't mean that the committee thinking is wrong. For example even the lousy to members descended notes even in the data committee has a december one person had been dissent dude fine. I'm hello democracies. snc's descended into any buganda. Everybody saying the same thing that the become a core of it doesn't make them democracy. Then so danny. The approach for the law was Take a look at what international Statutes into our various countries in the world. Of course we are really late into the production gave there are us europe. And now there's all of the world who have it and in the beginning of we report you say that there are three parts around the world and we are going to take the phony love limited. That is too. I mean look. These are concepts floating around in the ditch. Lesions concepts will pick certainly because sometimes they're difficult to say that did he's turco. Did is another concept. Also introduce some concept that except that but whatever is the current international thinking we have incorporated the good points sort of simulated them into law which will be useful and also suited for our purpose after look at our Economic standard political Gun son says a values in life to have what does sightings good so just to be clear. there is the jewish view which is fairly laissez. Faire let companies do they have to and you've got big data companies there. There is a chinese you. Which is the government will take over everything and so all. The companies that operate in china are listening to the government controlled companies and. There's a european view which is very regulatory heavy your pr and so They don't have any big data companies. There there's sort of the balance between these two but india had a unique challenge because we also wanted to use development. And that's the whole push with your much as other but a lot of the various come after that that was the balanced absolutely absolutely. The point is is like a tiger for. He's just let it lose. You'll lose again. You put it too hard then. I'll read now if you decorating international relation if you make it too stiff than the person who wants to invest in your company who invented company business in your country will not be deterred. He'll go to the neighbor. But at the time if you think you're a pushover even very very well for you and then get the best out of you and then make you the food. What it necessary to be strict on some aspects. Open it for easy interaction in other aspects and activate tightrope balancing tightrope walking. That are do balancing that. We have tried to do this. They were obviously some new things introduced. I mean some good some questionable. Obviously you had this data localization provision which the first time we heard about it anyway. The government was in your White paper and then of course the took it and went with it even before the law. Indeed i jumped the gun here but then what other. Provisions is when we can get into all of this this concept of data. Trust score that you came up with which. I don't think any other countries that well intended to informally do the the issue so the an idea for who is good news bad news trustworthy of minded being retained and processed. And that's something that's informative on. Because you and i have had many. I'll go around consent and you know that my view is that consent in this current stages completely broken You sort of have the view that it may be broken but we need agency and therefore it's sort of the basis of everything dimitra scores to my mind. When i first saw it is sort of a a way to arrive at that in a different way. I don't know whether you violate. But if i can give you a score on trust then even if you made me sign this big long consent agreement. I trusted one minute. Number default question was. I did subject shooting number thirty. You were not part of the committee. I put my foot down and said the last time i anybody. Subject as when england all these countries now after that i will not come as a subject of anybody else including the government of india. I'm as research is a free country in a democratic governance. Therefore it is that you want to take. Then i'm the data principle. I will give it to you and trust this. Framing is unique in the world. Right and around the world. People have always called the data subject. The data controller character. That is a really you know medieval kind of an approach entirely the wrong direction. Absolutely so this flaming in a sense puts the back in the hammer. The user yet that signature tune of the entira law not. I'm giving you something that is really might on trust for what purpose for a purpose. That will the doodoo the processing by judy lonesome individual and i will also stood as because there is a long history of water on misuse. The so just as she could you give the report. You gave a draft bill. And recently we've got the government kepler so more than a year And during that period of time no one spoke. You know anybody from the government decision and then eventually draft comes out you see in the draft. Yes before we get into any details. What's your general impression of the draft from perspectives. One of course as sort of a proud father you will have a certain affection to your draft but if you can set that aside because ultimately we don't want the best we just want be be that we can actually use and become law so from that perspective. What do you think say. There are several cosmetic changes. Ms nina really affect the character of the law to. I'm not going to even mention them or deal with them. But there are some basic principles from mr delegation. And that i think is now one of the things that i kept on saying is that it did protection. Law must apply uniformly across the board to private entities and government entities if and number one principle number two principal lease the desideratum is content on the principle and the stance dancers consent is not possible in such cases. The lawsuit have something to say about that. It should be done and finally when it comes to state agencies are state actors accessing the data individuals that would be an infringement fundamental right of privacy unless there was legislation give and that meant and bothering it and no legislative enactment would be constitutionally valid unless it complied tipple fahd munitions continues. Node meters was thinking in the community and everybody agreed with it. And that's helped fought billeted the job and the reason i decided it topped of the bills should be published because otherwise what happens is when you sit on. The committee and the committee gives report. The gum and the comic is reported not published and the public at large would not know what exactly the committee thinking is and very been a knock followed by the government. This time he said well. Let's put the job after the report draft of the final report and adopted the bill also in public demand so now the public and compare. What is there in the draft. Bill's bitter with the community as against what is being placed in parliament and understand whether they were so that the this. This is a really important thing. Because you are saying that the principles that you settled in your law would apply equally to the government as well as to private parties which will be the corporations Data and of course the biggest on everyone has is government actually violating your privacy through surveillance to oil the other Police actions that state can take because all of those fundamental reality privacy but still in your draft you had some exemptions and you had some exemptions for the state where provisions of the act would no longer play and a lot of people. I think Question you on that thing. Why did you allow for this leeway for the government to violate personal privacy to these various exemptions. C word is subject to reasonable districts whether it is under article ninety or article. Fourteen article twenty one. Big difference didn't nothing like absolute freedom for anybody. Now look at it. The logic is this dusted in theory is really acting for the benefit of and in the interest of the public at large so we did not emperor it than the citizen milan's have been audible but the environmental. This state must be only for the benefit of the citizen. Only to interdict anything. That might really come again. The enter the dissertation so that in the example given national security. So that just for instance. I'm just take the worst example a terrorist attack under those circumstances. If you have some play we'll see. Please be prepared to sacrifice because you are. You should be willing to do that in the larger interest. Pacific honor criminal investigation. That is the weird said that in all cases how'd you do about it did should be no i passed. Generally we dealing incentive arbitrary guard of this situation that numerator by the in the tough that is omitted and that law in order to be constitutionally valid would have to complain it the triple a principal. They don't in buddhism judgment proportionality all basically object united states than the proportionality law. It needs to be the law needs to support a staples and the action dig must be proportionate gutted. The status principles are if that is in and how to conduct fullfilled if any one of them is violated. Then the loyd unconstitutional and so you took the step of actually putting those three principles into the exemption provisions exemption provisions accent talks about must be under the law this this book provision now so when you have now seen the draft. What is your reaction of the exit is can you please. Famous broadened sounds good. Thing also on somebody went and decided to make a gun. Petit mobility and ultimately turned out to be a monkey. Okay does happen. She had a definite purpose of ensuring the private right of privacy was not infringed or abridged by any process other than the strictly parameter warranted under the constitution. Now the government has by one fell swoop exemption and face in the building to parliament that the government may in by declaring these object is by executive order in any of the rights of permanent. That is six thirty five in the draft and to be completely clear the Reasons under which could mean woke are the highest of the height because it is in the interests of the sovereignty and integrity of india security of the state family relations with foreign states public order. This is even the constitutional framework stated throw not fundamental rights cannot be back to quit parliamentary legislation in the lottery. They don't buy this so can argue the size and the introduction of this collision in a law which was passed by parliament is sufficient. No because who is going to do this. The government ban executive order knows that not not visible lawmen. Say this so then in your view if this passes as is could we challenge six thirty five viruses. of course. there's no doubt about thirty five is unlikely to stand migrated unconstitutional. Okay so that's as perhaps nothing further to discuss on there. I think there's another really interesting provisions and that is thirty six which is another vision exemptions. It's slightly less Sweeping in its scope but thirty six talks about certain circumstances under which various parts of the law the law and order play and it says that the provisions of chapter to accept section for and then it goes onto the other chapters now in your draft. You have these liberal vision. Which says that. All the provisions of chapter to accept section four. I think the difference though is that section four in this draft and section four in your draft are they different and so innocence section four of this draft used to be section five one of your draft and section five one of your rafters become section four so to someone who reads this just just looking at it goes away. it looks like lee produced. Exactly what you've done but there has been a very subtle and significant change. Strong word is nothing but legislative lizard affect okay. So can you go into that because right now. It's your idea under section four. Was that each only people process and a fan of these women right now. Section four says each hell only be processed for an awful purpose as a lawyer. How has a standard changed now. They switched these two lovell. Purpose is will put generally everything that is not rated by not man has everything lawful need not be fair and reasonable this interesting and so they are now operating essentially they just need to declare purpose and love whether it is fairly easy so that means long is not prohibited by law. You need not fair even can be unfair and reasonable because that's the kotler study. So what is the impact of this. To the normal citizen your vision was to have a the replay equally the private sector as well as the government. Now the practice obviously has to stick to all of this. Maybe did god lunch. Some executive officer will sign something and declared and this is in the interest of father nydia. The country ought condensed offer. Its military secrets are in interest of criminal investigation and that is an end. As far as i'm concerned as far as europe is concerned but we cure this candy challenged and so it can be challenging. Tony talent i talked on. Of course something. On which. I will not be too much this but then it also ship and this is not if i don't take the lead with with the fact that after neon so that's you know that's completely i think that's one of the big concerns that Everyone everyone had when they looked at it at. You know i would say that all the people who are concerned that you had given the government too much freedom with the exemptions. I know happy to go back to position rather than live with the clutch. That's different between gun. But the and monkey the other. I guess the other provisions of some concern to people is the data protection authority the data protection authority as much as you can put into the law. You will really clear that you needed to have a strong regulator because there is so much to be done. After and for the most part. I think they've kept provision with the data protection authority except for the provisions with regard to the appointment of the data protection authority. They've got the same number of people the officers everywhere. Pretty much the same bosnia. I think they've moved dp to the government. I think also vice versa. But the appointment. You had Conceivable of a framework where they would be judicial representation committee set up by the chief justice that seems to have been replaced by the gillard of free to act the regulator in situation. This should not be seen other nominee of the garment to stronger lackey of the government. Now if you have judicial representation representation from other independent persons it is not idiot. Unlikely the vietnam near the government. They will select the best man for the job after thirteen. His is really t- to take independent build building matter that is totally lacking them and that is critical in a law that applies to the government is better because if it was a law that was governing just to play with. It doesn't really matter but when the low actually can turn on the government you need to have an independent placenta other way. The nominee of the government is. You're you're serious and but the The good thing is the one of the provisions do put in your draft remained. Which is that. It will be six of years and he will not be eligible for the appointment and after that five year term the the and members of the dp cannot be appointed to a new position by the central one for two years. After that. so the fact you know. Let's let's see we get a person who is A some stature and fitting subsequently they can be very little interference situation of what we saw bud beckett the is of the nominee the government but because of the stage he may raise the pressures the government make donny and act independently. Get such a partisan. I don't mind that's perfectly justified but dick situation and we're going to bad person for five years. He talked with him. You can do nothing about that is that is but i think the comfort and i know i am an optimist broke. Everything is his storm is undisturbed for five years and also. He's not looking to be reappointed. Anyone who's looking to be reappointed electric. He's obliged to build totaling but there's no such thing and not only not reappointed to this not pointed to any role in the for two years. Antonini significant data fiduciary for two years so strong Didn't send due to toe. The government line agree. But you can't be too sure think. Yeah no but i. At least i think we should draw comfort from the fact that they have actually Leading some of the provisions that you had kept there for the purposes of transparency. Okay so that's the I guess the other a strange provisions There many but this is another one really stood out for me was in your formulation of the draft. You had a very windy article. It'd transitional period as you know when the companies that able to force the enacted various parts of the companies act in stages. So you can understand that because that was a very complex and required a lot of fundamental changes so in your draft you recognize that but you had it very time moan and i think the dieting From the data presidential assent to the coming into force of the i love was appear of eighteen months. That indicting is beautiful and the draft. No says that it will come into force as notify various sections. What does he at. This have long agreement or the notify the to up after five years ten years so we could have a situation. Now where the parliament approves it gives its assent and then everything just goes into yes. He's one of the contentious matters. I i had a feeling that that is participating in on this saying that because of these executive Lackadaisical s or deliberate avoidance of implementation. Can the batmans will be defeated. I know somebody who lives along the land but particularly since your draft. Had that very clear timeline. Which is which is. I haven't seen it's a. It's a fairly aggressive timeline. If you ask me because the motor is trying to do you are trying to access the altitude off having declared that right to privacy the fundamental right that means every day that goes about. The law is a breach of my mental rights so today though access my data and the bleach of momentum you don radical thirty do tutoring to six for the sooner. They put it into police in the better. Because all of those twenty two twenty six hundred thirty to play lousy to the government and we also need to target private violations. Okay the the other provisions which i know. You're quite concerned about Is this infusion with concert on personal data now Since your committee handed in the report there has been another committee. That's been established under by which is about non personal data in your Low you talk about non personal data and you talk about the fact that you know we are relating personal data but there's a lot of other data that's being collected which is non personal data and the government should look into it and even in your draft. There is a provision to the end with says it. We are regulating in this personal data. Nothing will come in the of the government enacting a law on non personal data but what the government has done is written that provision but in addition added a clause which says that they can access non personal data For bush data is amazed or non pursue data to enable better targeting of services formulation of evidence based policies by the central government. I wanna ask you first your opinion on this and do you think that by flagging this issue you have actually given them an idea. That was not in the heads before he example the community data number. Let's say traffic there. The oddity got it to you. Know something like google maps these. What he's shooting in the committee but since our mandate with the meter we decided that is like them build a expect the government to consider it carefully and come out with separate law to deal with this issue now what the government has done. You want me to bond bluntly lock in the front door and giving the windows open steal it. Anybody can steal that. That's what the government did today. There declare that. In order to target of i need to access but everyday dad non-personnel and and took it from any company. I don't understand what an unprecedented people don't understand. His company's data maybe predicted either because it is presented on the staff employs directors et cetera. It is protected did not body of personnel non idea into the company but example financial records then the company border the nuisance their projected targets than to terrorism. They do nothing. The company business model hundred government can access all epa dot com. But even so. Of course i you know maybe the government does have an interest in that but there are so many tech companies today generating a valuable insights which may not be predictable but which represents some significant value to the company from a competitor habits because by competitors will get access. I couldn't even envision what did not personally but then day is a negative term each other than the union would've except personal data is the number one hundred and you either the beckoned garment just declare significant visually. There's no other country in the world located northern country in the world have gone on record to say this and this is. I don't know what the big idea. So this is a this is a good sign. And i'm sure i think it's finally Not not only. The data localization provisions You got a lot of flack for having dinner. Localization probation It's still there. But it's diluted it's so before we get into that. What was what was going on in the committee at the time to introduce this because you wouldn't i in the world other than of course and was and russia china and russia. And you see it in your report saying this china russia which is one model which is the state goudreau's it china's great firewall of china. India doesn't have that but you introduce vision to say that data should be mirrored a you go to the serving copy. In india and critical personal data must be starting processed in india that has remained now even into the new and critical data remains. The dan not been different has not been defined. Must ask you on this. It would have been nice if that report and the law had even a sort of a definition of principles so that we could understand what it was right now it is critical personal data as defined by the government. And so we have no idea what is gonna be one difficulty. I also notice see but you know what was the duty during the debates. I said to the table and critical data. What is critical now. The president's personal their prime minister partner to the personal data. Say the chairman of the throw chairman dunnigan education chairman of the air. Why should be in timbuktu or some other for the quite frankly any company would completely except that raises nothing unreasonable. In in retrospect i think we should have defined the argument on that says if i needed to the hype head by and the critical nature could neither strategic excited the fundamental in the personality. That's exactly what i had in mind but some of that definition doesn't seem to that and i hope the government really does not it is it is in another door For the government to put everything into this basket which could be no but then the hundred defining. So they're right now. The law says as notified so they can define to mean all genetic information or they could say oil. Medical information is covered information they can see genetic inflammation. Now that is critical. There's a reason for it. I think eli critical. Data means auditor headed by social media platforms. This country what can you do about. That's the concern. The occurs to me post-facto the disease. What is likely to happen. But let's go back to the because you had said all personal data. What was the reason for the reason. They're very simple assuming that either legitimate cause for accessing data personality. I'm not nonprofit data. Not even taking the discus by this date. Now let's say something and that. I'm a terrorist. I'm marie financing. So is a lot of money moving in their back toward now. Somebody needs to access my data albeit with my consent but that would need to existed. Now how do we exercise it now. The gel in india. They didn't say book to do you had to go to the process off to the place to timbuktu. Ira name let me play the. Us may not be applied within two are some some other country. So if you're you're finish anything if we place that adds up complicated process diplomatic governmental judicial and back this back and forth with six months ethics. It takes body up. Yeah eighteen months. The report that i feel so in that particular month. Uganda for another. You'll have been twenty four hundred to a million bombs manufactured so many blast military necessarily but just to be the issue was access to the literally access now. A lot of people are seeing. That low flirtation doesn't necessarily give you the access that you need because you're madrid dixon and i can get you get of the person by the neck. And they give it to me but didn't see. It is encrypted. I don't care whether it took you decrypted and give it to me. If you want to hear the most people are saying. And i i. I completed that the localization was part. One would be if you encrypt data. Nord forcement can ask you to decrypted interests of all of these. I'm not saying that. Did not carte blanche the government. This is against subject to remember exceptions. Such us through the situation where in the paramount interested in south india of this country security can be need to access the data ahead bags. Plays it financial whatever it up. At that time we didn't talk to it. Data what is what is the methodology numerology to assume that a plane doesn't agreement and then may twenty four months absent. That is the reason why you. What do you keep a copy and people lose is of course there is cost and all your argument back is. It's the cost of doing business in india but the challenge with that And let's belabor the point for two minutes before we go into this not just to get the conceptualization of the committee. there are many other. Second order implications. You're the the ability. The internet gives businesses is that i can be located anywhere and i can reach customers anyway so take an example of some startup very any good startup based auto scandanavia as start up. They don't have the ability to set up so isn't any country in the world. What does it what is impossible it is. It is a proportion off the size of the business. Full this book. It costs nothing for google. It costs nothing. Probably will set it up because so many uses but for someone who's saying look. Let me get my first end users in ten users telling me so much business Expenditure it's challenging. It is challenging in the sense that it is in in some ways it deters people from the camp so if i say look i can lead any country in the world except i also have to put us over. So then. Let's see okay. Let me put india for later. When i have enough money to be able to say predicted from the. It is a center agreed. So you'll grow your muscles. Come back to india and do business. What is the argument. So i'll just want to do business but then you wanted to business on your did because it's not convenient for you. To is an argument that self dividends but the the to do business in europe can tell them i'm startup. i don't want to complete it. your lost. In the world clients localization fully removed the restrictions. I cannot say that this ratting media for not. I got bid please. Executive from these one of these conditions other conditions than other countries which allowed me as a as a startup budgeted and north startup is going to come in excess the market of this data and then come here belong to any any startup looking to india but most startups are just set themselves up on the internet and then they say oh my god i have like forty fifty people from india signing everybody does it. They must be. Just let me go. And so in a sense not doesn't wag the dog but now they will if they are accepting any people from india they will have to set up a business. But let's leave. That did the bill has diluted your second also access to data isn't necessarily because they absolutely the for things in this country now under what version of it can be accessed is another matter but my data being held a middle of no use to me. When i wanted. I don't have it. If i wanted for security wounded i wanted for the purpose of legitimacy and then he takes one get the book bag of the saudi government bypass positive and now the government says Critical data retained only in the country. Sensitive data maybe to be retained in the country briefed but it can be transferred wisconsin. John's they'll students but the of fear or apprehension voiced medical city. And i think no one wins in this formulation because in your formulation it arguably it's very difficult for the for the corporations but as far as be will be able to get government under touring the country's interested not comments comment to me the country paramount. So if we hit all data has to be kept her then Without a doubt it will be difficult for competitions but at least that opposite you had was his law enforcement and access to data of now i will not be in the country because if you send it out only will keep his sensitive personal data which is a limited set of things like some sort of financial information on all financial information or fisher. Some medical mission and in the west is just night entity inflammation for example. I'm a notorious smuggler. Mytravel information is very eleven is kept and if i want to access it. Exited good to them led process again. Because there's no other ridiculous but equally. I think operations now have an additional burden of separating the data into sensitive personal sensitive and allowing the puzzle if anything. This is going to be even more conflict. I yeah it's mad and really complicated so you're accepted in the report. The committee ideas and not really used to the pressure brought on new by the lobbies. But because you're done something with united here again not a bit. So it'd be good which is a monkey king the gun is so i just want to ask you some Few questions on what we can expect going forward now And i like to you to reflect on the thing that you said right at the beginning which is many many a time. The government disaster to come up with reports the may report You came up with a reported. Nothing happened This law If it was passed in your form was Had a short fuse to come into effect which is eighteen months now. He doesn't seem to have that fuse. you also mentioned that When the minister asked you to do this he was responding to some pressure. That's what do you think is the future. I day idea maybe is to take it easy and then i dunno the idea. Maybe we are beginning to beautiful. Legislation are about inducted. Says like that saying there is one of the distinct singular legislations with the country has come out something very progressing. But then he did good we operated. Nobody knows about the so. There's absolutely no on pollick standing in the world. ask you to do another committee. We do agree. I don honesty. These poor conditions did not fail. Because i took my person who's excelled waleed bone just as sri. Krishna has changed many committees. Some of them arguably more important than his work on the data protection committee but given the times we find ourselves in. This is the report that is received the most widespread public attention. Now that we have the opportunity to compare the draft more prepared with the bill that is being placed before parliament. It seems that yet again. The government asked for his views and ignored what he had to say justice. Sri krishna is in his late seventies but his eagerness to dive into new areas of law remains undiminished. 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Show 46 "1992 Comedienne of the Year"     Cathy Ladman

Standup Comedy "Your Host and MC"

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Show 46 "1992 Comedienne of the Year" Cathy Ladman

"This is another episode of standup comedy. Your host and emcee celebrating forty plus years on the fringe of show business stories interviews and comedy sets from the famous and not so famous. Here's your host and mc scott at words and welcome to this week show before we get started with a great interview inset from a terrific comedian. I just want to remind everybody. If you have any comments or request you can reach me at laughs. History edgy mail dot com. That's l a u g. H s history at g. Mail dot com all right. Let's get ready for a great show. Ladies and gentlemen a very very special day for the podcast we have on the line. One of the funniest comedians in the business. She was irregular laughs unlimited for a few years. But she's been so busy. We'll talk about that but let's make her feel welcome. Ladies and gentlemen are starved for the day kathy landman. The crowd goes nuts. Yes we're so excited to have you on the podcast. Thanks so much for doing this so just to let everybody know kathy. Lagman was a star performer. Still is a star headliner on the comedy stages and has been for several decades in back in the late eighties. And i don't know the exact date and into the early nineties with lucky enough to have her at the club several times and then fame took her away from us as she is a very successful actress and entertainer. And we'll get into that for a little bit but it has been about thirty years since we've seen each other and you sound amazing. Oh my god thirty years. Well if i'm doing the math right pretty close card. I think you're right. I well maybe a little radio lesson paul. I think you're right. It's it's it's a little bit less. It's probably twenty seven twenty eight years but you know it's amazing. I saw you on facebook the other day. And i've been doing some research and you look amazing. You gotta be what fifty now. You look great on out by tomorrow tomorrow. Happy birthday while we're great timing. I can't believe sixty five medicare come and get me medicare rate. I couldn't believe it. And then i was driving home tonight and i saw this like place which is for like home home assistance for seniors. And it's like. Oh my god i'm running really. I mean i'm like. I am definitely a senior now. I mean there was some places. I consider you a senior sixty or sixty two but now i am absolutely. We can't lie about it anymore. No allied anyway. But there's no. There's no i mean i get into any movie theater being whether are some advantages when it comes to restaurants and movie theaters. They take care of us old people but you know what's amazing is they cut the senior discount menu or something on my god. You know. i can't believe it. I went i with my daughter. I went yosemite I must've been about five years six years ago and we were at this restaurant. And there was a children's menu and a senior menu for people over sixty over fifty five and she and i both order off the menu. Let's see there's a benefit. How did you have a good time. At yosemite oh my god. We had such a great time. I don't know this but my wife. Jill works for the national park service in her home park because you semi taxi was just arm season intelligence analyst and she was just there yesterday as a matter of fact and but We have we have already gone off track which is fun but we need to bring it back. So if you guys don't know kathy is originally and you can tell on the voice from new york city right while new york queens new york born and raised that's that's a whole different experience from The california life. How did you like growing up in new york was a unique or just. You didn't know any different so you loved it. Well i i didn't know any different and i am i being new yorker i love. I love having grown up in new york. One one thing that i will never know however is the thrill of seeing manhattan skyline for the first time because i grew up with it was just became part of the fabric of my life. But it's so amazing. Like when i when. I go back to new york which hasn't been since january. Now you know driving into the city from the airport just so thrilling to see the skyline and I love. I love being new yorker. It is a badge that a lot of people were with honor. I recently saw a couple of interviews of jerry seinfeld who it was defending New york and saying that whatever. The governor does whatever the mayor does. New york will always be new york. And we're not going anywhere. And i thought that was i mean not only is a proud new yorker but he was. He's like fighting for it. I think that's impressive to. Yeah now did you start your comedy career in new york or did you. What got you into comedy Well i wanted. I always love comedy come on. I was like eight years old. I used to on to my parents comedy albums and i was very inspired by one. Particular album nichols may examined authors and I decided consciously at about h. Thirteen that i wanted to be a standup comic. Wow that's early for decision. Yeah yes but then it took me willie another almost thirteen years to do it because i was afraid will. It's a tough thing to get into but once you do there's the fear and the exhilaration that kind of not only Forces you get up there but keeps you up there once. You're there so you didn't do your first say open mic until you're twenty six well. I didn't open mic. When i was like twenty one but then i it. It didn't stay with me. I i and i moved out to los angeles. I thought i would started out here and i. I laughed at four months ago near a comedy club. And then it took me like another four years oh four i Actually started in earnest. I started on the june twenty. Eighth nineteen eighty-one. Wow well i should explain to the audience. That i'm not aware of this because when you came to laos unlimited you were really already established act. I remember your first time in sacramento. I can't remember my what my first time. I thought i can't. I can't tell you. I thought my one and only standing ovation at will we have great audiences here and i'm not surprised what does surprise me. That was your one and only i mean. You're a very very funny lady. Well thank you but who knows knows that That was a very thrilling experience for going back to your route. So you start off kind of a open mike here and there and a little bit of work in la. What club did you decide to make your home. Club was at the improv. The store would you kind of develop palm. Well aca kind i was. I was living steve. Middleman he was my boyfriend whom i right. We were together for three and a half years. Oh wow he's a funny man to. He's very funny and we're still very good friends. He had come now to la in. Let me see it was like it was at nineteen eighty five spring of eighty five. He wanted for pilots. And and i and i decided to join him for a month and he said up an audition for me at the comedy store. Since that's where he. I guess where he was starting out at in. La and past the dishes at the comedy store so that that was my first club here. But then i started doing both the improv and the comedy store. I just did quietly because there was this rivalry and terrible. It's telkom it's that they can't work one five. You know mitzi and bud you know. I would go at it but it was in the long run it. The that competition may have Actually improve the quality of standup comedy at the time. But it was also difficult for the entertainers like you said you had do. You wanted to work both rooms and there were there. Were others in the area and you at the same time. You didn't wanna piss off. Mitzi mitzi was the most on edge i think but there was a lot of clubs and you you just wanted to. Yeah but what has he remembers. You know i remember one time. I was working Used to working with the comedy store again hotel. And i never work the improv in vegas at the time the improv in vegas is the rivi era and you had to Twenty one shows a week. Three shows a night of every single night. There were there were short shows. But but it's like crazy and one time i was. I was working for bud in atlantic city. And he was there and we were talking and he said yes. You work the other room and he was kind of you. Know to dig it me and i. I said hey. I'm just trying to make a living you know. It says it's not it. They i don't think they should. Use a warmers to get back at each other like that. No and then you know either no. I'm just agreeing with you that for example To bring it to to me laughs. Unlimited was the only club in this part of the state for a a few years and i kinda established myself but then john fox opened up the punchline about oh i'd say twenty minutes thirty minutes away from my club in its both clubs are still with. Both clubs are still operating. But i took a different approach. Instead of competing i would call up the booker and say look. This is who i have coming in. I wanna make sure we don't step on each other's dates and we actually worked cooperatively to make certain. We wanted to make sure that if if you were if slayton was working over there i wasn't going to bring him in early and trying to kill their excitement for the act and and we never had a combative situation. But i'm sure that's somewhat unique. I mean look when you when you start to work clubs like in like those kind of those kind of cities they would. They would say that you couldn't work another world with a certain period of time. It was like a three month. Period of time was something and that's understandable because they didn't want you to the lose the business from the week that you had a fear club you know. They just wanted to kick it kind of separate. Not that's understandable. Yeah and that's what we did. A two or three month break baton axe and we were able to share acts like will durst and bobby slayton using that kind of format but it was also interesting that each club had its own pool of entertainers. There were people that worked for me. That never worked for the line and vice versa so it goes a lot of different ways but you got a good start at the store. Mitzi is certainly somebody that can make a star out of somebody. I know that you went on to do a lot of tv. And i'm still jumping ahead because really when we started booking you you were already and this is only four or five years after this work at the comedy store so you all ready established headliner. I don't remember featuring you. I think you came in as a headliner. I started headlining. Look this is the eighty so you could really move up if you had. If you had you know the time the return you could move up pretty quickly because there was so many places for work I first headlines in canada was very first. Headlining gig in winnipeg. I actually got a nice big out of that. But my my sense of canadian that i found that kid that was nineteen. Yeah that was nineteen eighty. Six and and that is scary. I remember that first time off. He's going to have to be on stage forty five minutes and and And then i just started headlining around the country and you know i mean i don't get a i mean i'm since i've had that kind of safes on that yet when i was twenty twenty two twenty five shows a month and it is different in once you reach a certain level as an entertainer when you're on the road which is a different beast from television and other things You have a qualified headliner. Should be doing forty five minutes minimum except for any johnston who had thirty seven minutes and fifty seconds every night. But i mean most headliners and then some you know. We had jay. Leno do an hour and a half and dana correctly. Do an hour ten. You know it just depends but it is true. That when you get to showcase clubs like the store and the improv where there's not there's so many acts it was a big deal to get a twenty minute sat. I mean other than robin williams. I don't know anybody that could go up on stage and do as much time as they wanted ever. No not all. But when i used to open for j in the i guess it was the mid mid eighties. I would open for jay and road and Which were great gigs. Because he's audiences fantastic and he initially. He was doing two hours and twenty minutes. Wow which is insane. And then we cut it back for an hour and a half. Yeah he is just a comedy machine. When it comes to stand up in fact He still loves getting out in doing long sats in the as the material for it and i can totally understand that you enjoyed opening for him because like j. Your very talented manala gist but clean as well and i think the two of you would be a terrific team. Onstage a trumpet. Yeah yeah. That's that's a better term complementary to each other yes Not not not that. We pay so the compliments. No the kato compliment but But i remember this one time i was opening for jay south of chicago and it was such a was like labor day weekend. Something in there was such horrible traffic. I was stuck in traffic. I ended up getting to the theater. Like like fifteen minutes or twenty minutes before i get on stage and i was and i was you know i was grinding from travelling and i tried to i was i had a shower in my dressing room and i. I opened the shower curtain towel and getting ready and opened the shower curtain. And there's like no handle to turn on the water and was just like a like a like a pipe sticking out and i'm like going around back they'd have meet alone those fires and nobody had been and so i ended up to sewing on stage like dirty from and just putting on my clothes and i had one of the best shows i ever had because my defenses are so down i just you know not everything was going my way and just had a roll with it and it was just such a great audience. My god the and i think that that goes to the art form of comedy. Is that a lot of times. It is affected by the atmosphere or the situation. That's going on in how you use that really makes or breaks your comedy show and it sounds like in this situation going through all that anxiety and stress just to get to the stage that when you got to the stage went. Okay here we go. You know i know how to do this. I had to do do this. That's great you will. We were really like to work for us. As i said ma Several times it was Eighty nine ninety and into about ninety two or three. Then you just took off with acting which i want to ask you about but before we get to that The times that you were at laughs unlimited. I don't know what you recall. I gotta tell you that you are one of the favorites for my staff. I know that. And lynn said that you guys all went to a movie together and saw sister act and they. They used to sit and wait for certain bits on your set. Joe particularly remembers. You have in kind of a mockery bid about you unfolding a roadmap by the way anybody father my father In had to be with way to torture my father That you would follow the roadmap is the roadmap incorrectly and. It's so funny that you bring that up. Because i'm i'll tell you about this if we get to this. I'm in the middle of rehearsing a so show that i'm gonna be doing. I'm doing actually now in new york. That i actually tell that that in the show because i'm talking about my father in the show and i knew that the illustrate what he likes your material one of my favorites your material though came from you it wasn't like seinfeld's very observational. His his comments his comedy comes from everyday. Stop but then there's other entertainers and in you fall into this category over. You're taking life's experiences. You took a situation where by the way those of you that are under thirty Paper map was something had to fold and unfold to see where you're going right before. Gps and and it was a nightmare to try to reform those but to do it just to torture father. Also i guess he was Had some patients problem with the microwave. That's right he will. He was that he was in. The canton. would be very anal. Retentive as i say that microwave and go and it's been ten seconds minutes. You know it's so funny because these technologies which everybody you know everybody listening to this. Podcast things i well. We've had microwaves and gps forever. But if you go back enough years there were no it was paper maps and no microwaves and when they came along big deal right now i remember having to pull over to check a map for directions. You know you know it was a very different. I mean we were. I was talking to my husband about like having my cell phone. And i had twenty minutes a month. That was my plan minutes then And then you know. If i had to be on the phone and was like oh come on hurry up hurry up. You wanna hear crazy i was. I had the ahead. The club when cell phones came out. And i actually had a phone installed in my car and this was before cell phones were cell phones it was motorola actual phone. You'd open up the glove. The glove box would be like a handle phone. It was the most expensive thing in the unit took up most of my trunk. I'm cure but it was fun. You remember the sites in those huge huge phones that they used to have a one movie. And i can't even remember own there. Were they were actually bigger than the handle on the old style. Dial phone huge. I mean they would like investors five of brick louis hughes That was anybody Under forty probably wouldn't remember those but Yeah since we're both celebrating sixty five and your birthday tomorrow. We gotta talk about this stuff so one other thing that was brought up by the girls and i want to apologize. I remember being very funny Act and loved working with you. But i don't have the memory of particular bits lynn comment. Lynn commented that you used to do an amazing impression of rhoda morgenstern. Yeah she said that you did a bit from the mary. Tyler moore show of rhoda and you would do a short impression that she still remembers. I don't remember doing that as oil law. Thanks that i don't. I don't remember that we'll have to see if we can dig up a copy in the archives but that's funny that the individual bits that people remember that from came through the club's now going on memory. Do you remember working with anybody fond or doing anything special last unlimited yet. I'm so glad you brought that up because my favorite person's work with was my dear. Dear friend dave anderson. Who's no longer with us. Wonderful dave so much. Oh my god and i remember one time the last night of one week when we work at playing pictionary and we all were laughing so hard i had never played it before and it was so fun and oh god he wasn't. He was amazing. Not only a funny guy on stage but just a terrific man offstage. We used to do a lot away from the club activities with dave and we were all sorry to lose him but we have the memories. And that's what's important. And he was a great guy. But i'm glad that you remember working with him and playing pictionary at our club. That's great oh i remember it. I mean when i when i think of less unlimited i think days well. That's that's a good way to go. Yeah and you remember anybody else. I worked for their well. Because you were a headliner we would mix up featured and opening acts some of the guys. I've interviewed started off as opening acts or middle accents so they got a chance to work stars future stars. You were already a star but let's let's take it to the next level because what was interesting and different than some of the other people. I've had a chance to interview. Is you're a really talent in successful road comic which is tough for anybody but especially a comedian. And i know that the whole male female thing people can get Riled up about but being female headliner and being on the road is got to be one of the toughest jobs. And you're able to quickly get away from that and you've done something like eleven movies. Oh god i had well. That's that's what that's what they say. You've you've made appearances in about eleven movie so you went into acting what i was gonna ask is. How did you transition from being a top of the line a comedian. By the way when. I say top of the line kathy. Landman was female standup of the year in nineteen ninety-two people. We're talking to top of the line. You were a great entertainer and getting the standup comedian of the year is no small feat. So congratulations thank you so much. I mean that was that was. That was exciting. I remember that night to john. Rivers handed me my award. It was really exciting. Yeah oh yeah absolutely. So how did that transition. Well you know if interesting. I i always wanted to try my hand at acting so much work for me to be to be had on the road that i didn't stay in town long enough to take advantage. Any it used to be that there was a definite pilot season. I mean this is back before they were so many different channels. You know on tv. They'll be around right. Yeah it's really around. There still is a pilot season. But that's just for network and there is stuff that goes on iran but back in the eighties and the nineties season bill. It was a specific pilot season. I started staying calm. Like in eighty eighty nine and i started doing pretty well and i got a pilot in eighty nine. It didn't go anywhere and i. I did a few different pilots. That didn't go anywhere. But that's the name of the game and the first pile that i did was terrible terrible and i win with george. Clooney was another one in the series regulars and other people that i'm still i even travelocity's who's a very Successful character actor that you unsure. If you saw his face he would know him for low him onto film. You know who he was. He was in Groundhog day. He was the guy. Ned all right dan. He's done a lot of movies. Yes tons of movies. He shows as well. Yeah so he and i are still friends and thought a woman. So flying's she. And i are still and on. Vdi rusher she. And i were in that together. So i mean that's that's a long time ago and And then in subsequent years. I got other islands as well and and i just loved acting really really seem to take it. Seemed like you took to it naturally. one of my favorites was that you were in the movie. My fellow americans and that's not a movie that is considered you know the tha probably not even the top fifty movies but as one of my favorites and but you did many walk on many movies. i just think to be able to transition from the stand up. Stage to television to movies must have been exciting. Or why one of the most willing things that i was able to experience. Mice nicolini laying may where my were my heroes. When i was growing up. And i got to to mike nichols sounds amazing. Back to do a bit with him. I if i got to one of his bits with him you know let me laying may might pick a dent with them while i was on the set of of the movies. And it's like crazy crazy exciting. This is all see. that's an experience. Nobody can top so we kind of skipped over television. And i didn't mean to but movies are really exciting but on tv. I mean you were on an hbo special. You did like nine tonight. Shows that's to be near record Are willing to ask now. We're near record record done thirty four. You know we'll still nines. Pretty damn good kathy. You did great. But you're also a regular on the craig ferguson. Show was curious what it was like working with him. I always really loved them. I thought he was a real unique talent and could go off. Script easily could really speak from his heart and some of his mind and I was always very impressed with him. And one of the most two things that i did on his show was in fact it was the last. Maybe it was the last time i did. His show was. I signed that i would. I i been developing this show. That i'm finally in rehearsal for right now for years. I mean i've been on and off with this show. It's about my eating disorder and i did get on the show about being anorexic and it was really a an an amazing was a life changing experience to be able to talk about that on national television and then to sit down and talk with him about addiction because he's an alcoholic right so drugs and alcohol and he did it. Yeah one of the things. I respect and like about craig is that and i've read his book. I don't know him personally. Of course but i've read his book and i've watched his shows and i thought it was always interesting. How he was a dual personality. One minute he could be a total whack a doodle comic. And it'd be as funny as anything in the next minute. he sincere. he's serious and For example in his book is his love for this country and his patriotism. It's such an interesting balance for somebody that's on. Tv every night to have that in their back pocket to be able to go both ways. Right right it's true We've had what's called american on surface I i have on my bookcase about twenty for me. But i can't see it but it was a good book if you're if you wanna get if you wanna get picked up his book it's a really good read. And he's an interesting man. How many ferguson shows did you do. I think i did. I like thanks. So nine tonight shows. His executive producer and peter was the producer on the tonight show. That's where i met. Peter and clinton was such great people working. So i mean. I i have to say i really miss those days of doing late night. Tv i'm really do. And i never got to do letterman. And i really. I really regret that. I wish i had had that opportunity. You did a great job being on the tonight. Show and the ferguson show. Especially if you're asked to do the tonight show you. Were part of the big anniversary show. A couple arrived on a couple of hours. That's a real honor to be invited back for those. I know. just pick anybody definitely and that was a huge honor. huge honor. yeah and well. You're funny that makes a difference too. It does make a difference. I mean you're a nice gal but you're funny fast. You know what. I remember which is which is so sobering so remember this The first term. I did the tonight show with johnny carson. I went. I went over to the couch after i did that and it was it was it must have been nineteen eighty-nine because she said to me he says you're very funny. He said How long have you doing this. And i said eight long years. I thought that was a long time. Yeah and really for somebody to our in thirty nine years now. Oh it's a you've had an amazing career but to realize that eight years because the first eight you know the first eight of the hard ones after that it gets easy. It's now no. I'm joking now. You did also a lot of walk. I mean modern family. Several shows crime shows courtroom shows. You did a lot of tv. Work inner around the movies so you ended up being a very busy actress in the sense of of doing all these spots do you miss. Did you miss doing more standup bird. The standup really set you up for the tv shows. Did you enjoy those more. I really like both. But i tell you i. I got hired viewing the road. Because you know. I never made it to the point in my career where i was filling were and that get is hard for a while you want you wanna perform for people who wanna come to see you and i never got that point because i left the road and i was doing more more acting at that point right right and and i think that's kind of what happened with laughs because we always had full crowds but we weren't we didn't use you in any The big concerts we did not. Because you weren't funny but because you did transition in. You're spending more time in la doing tv and movies. But i'm sure that the money you made and the fact that you didn't have to be on the road had a lot of benefit. Oh definitely and they will. Also you know if you made enough money and the union. Then you've got health insurance which is a big deal as a comic doing the railroad. He didn't have any of that. You didn't have that operates. No yeah no. That's that's not really important especially as you get older and start having a family and kids and doing things having the health insurance is important. So you've had this amazing career any funny stories or anything that stands out you'd like to share with our podcast audience throwing you under the bus here. I mean as far as like are on something they have been at was. I don't. I don't know if i was married to my husband at the time when we married at tunnel means you're pacman so we're know already married. I don't think we were. I was playing the other not nazi original messy old town. Rome recites hit. She probably sets right and palm. And i who does not have yet. We're working there. I was sick and had this really bad cough. And i and i didn't wanna take any cozying before i went on because it would just make me not sharp so i couldn't at one point during my show. I couldn't stop coughing. We go i was. I was about twenty minutes into my show. And i couldn't stop crossing. I like impossible for me to do so. What happened was term. Came out and me did my act for me. Since he knew it and and i he oh all right all right correctly. I like a good husband. He had finished the bit. That i was in the middle of zero i would and then he went on and continued my ass and i would do the physical stuff and he did all the word That's amazing my god. The audience was so into it and they just love it they loved. That was a special show. Because i kind of like camp frantic like that no in in i would have been the downtown club so i didn't witness it but that sounds like an amazing situation where under duress in a situation. You can't control. you have a live audience. It goes to the old showbiz adam. The show must go on. And here's somebody that no. Well i'll just do your act for you right. I'm really i mean i. I literally couldn't put towards together without alcock. Will you tell tom i appreciate it. And thank you very much. The show went on appreciate talking to so. that's exciting. Well that's a great story. Thank you so much for sharing. That will tell you why we. They'll no no that's fine. We've learned a little bit more about you. Most importantly i wanted to hear how comedy came to your life and how you were able to have such a successful career over almost four decades not to aid you like i said you look amazing. Who would no fine but with five. It's not aging long. Well you've had all those successful years live on stage. You're working on a new show that will come out next year. Live on stage is still open in new york. Thank or la it depends. I mean if theaters are going to be opening than i'm going to be doing before i do the new york probably the do with here but it's okay one of the name of the show it's called shall make you fat. That's the title. Does this show make me look fat. That's a great title especially if the subjects anorexia that's hilarious. I think people will get that and laugh just seeing the title. That's genius and like mike and you know the show is not obviously not all plenty because it's a serious subject but it you know really you know genuine authentic from the heart stories. A bright i. They are and how i how i became. You know anti recovery. But the but the i think what's going to make it a warm. Is it with your personality and your creative writing talents. You're gonna be able to come across on a serious subject in a in a fashion. That makes it entertaining as well. You know you're going to be able to mix well. I just i know you and i know you're act and speaking of that. No coughing allowed. I have queued up a terrific. Set that we're going to share of you from nineteen ninety two and we're gonna let the audience here your entertainment. But i wanted to say. Thanks for doing the podcast. Thanks for doing the interview. It's been terrific catching up and again same year. And i'm sure the podcast audience enjoyed your stories and your history in a terrific art form like stand up comedy and be able to transition which not many people succeed at going from the standup stage to tv to movies and building the career you have including female stand up comic of the year. I mean you've had so many accolades well deserved and we appreciate your years. You worked labs. Thank you doing that. Very sweet and makes me feel great. Thanks all right. Well ladies and gentlemen. Here's coming up a really terrific comedy set from the starve our interview. Let's all hear from cathy. Lagman thanks kathy for doing the interview. Mike pleasure thanks scott you great night night and happy for you not married okay. Thirty five thirty on that married. I give up his wedding. I caught the bouquet. I'm getting oh no when you more attractive hanging upside down tonight. Backs people were long getting altogether. That confidence thing everybody gag getting all these seventy one. I can't believe it. Hanson rows are going crazy. Do a man scientist who did invent something mind getting all the nervous. Gas at everything mild. It will hurt to the car. She's a minute to the dining. How she's really cautious drivers cautious road and any the signs. The road curves last. She signaled that way. though he's going there a brick wall ahead of my body other on obama father going so you don't win dear. My father's approaching they linger von. Did warn can sleep at night in the night. I can't believe i can't sleep. And alison is terrible dream. My parents is up guys. Clay went back to new york for family reunion. I hate to walk in there. i look anything. I'm getting my tubes now. Lot of she hires the worst band. The western hemisphere beautiful music these. I'd have to play the hokey pokey on my. I believe melody now that you have a blue van. It was really all of them. You don t. I holy there this wedding. My mother their jewish mother. My mother was on jury duty. They sent their home. He did that she was guilty. He's jewish because all religions to the same basically guild with different holidays guilty head cartoon characters and tracheotomy talking sometimes when she wants to be inconspicuous she doesn't want to talk. Nobody notices on girls girls hobie speech. Therapy my cpa and like every cpi meticulous anal patient died in the microwave. Your dad and you wanna torture him and you will time get the wall like this with his arms this straight ahead and then right in front of him you we own roadmap incorrectly. Dan then the man he he was so cloudy and cheap. The come home from work on a chromebook data. Jump into my new house. Burn nighttime skills families the phone all navolato the worst thing to phone a thirty year and big black rotary desk phone won't even used as even look through a lean down to the table and i am so special instruments. Dial thirteen years old link with humanity. Why needed to speak with nick over the phone behind me like a vulture keep it. Keep it miniscule. Granddad said is the money. Well ladies and gentlemen kathy landman live on stage. There's nothing like it. I'm sure you can see why she was picked. Female stand up comic in nineteen ninety two and that set was from nineteen ninety-two so relevant. And she's celebrating her birthday tomorrow. So wisher birthday wish out there and thanks for listening to this podcast. We know you had a good time. We'll see next week with another new show by. We hope you enjoyed this episode of standup comedy. 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Comedian Howie Mandel

"This is kick ass news. I'm ben mathis in the casinos. They have the deal or no deal. Slot machines and i was in another casino. Not this casino. A couple of weeks back this a true story talk about awkward. My wife is with me and we have another couple couple. Louis and kathy and lewis. Kathy go down to the casino. My wife calls me and a couple of minutes in my room and says kathy just hit the jackpot on the deal or no deal machine. She just one ten thousand dollars and this will change her life. she's crying. I could hear the screaming. She says howie. You've got gotta come down and see this. I put my coat run out of the room. I run down the hall down the elevator across the casino. I see the lights going on. The i go there kathy is crying. They're peeling off hundred dollar bills and giving you're giving ten thousand dollars. I give her a big hug and everything and they see all of these lights around me. And i look and people are taking pictures. And they're holding up their cell phone. 'cause i just realized they don't know that this is my friend. They think that if you hit the jackpot on the deal or no deal i show. I'm ben mathis. Welcome to kick ass news. That was a clip from howie. Mandel hour long comedy. Special howie mandel presents. Howie mandel at the howie. Mandel comedy club which airs this friday at ten eastern on showtime. It's as i stand up special in over twenty years and you might think that he's just been too busy between hosting deal or no deal. And judging america's got talent but today says that comedy is still as i love and even now he still manages to do up to two hundred comedy shows a year. He talks about his childhood growing up in toronto. And how the show candid camera. Inspired him to pull an elaborate prank. That got him expelled from high school. He shares a winging. It is first time. Onstage turned into his signature improvisational style. Why he still thrive on audience interaction and how he's grown to love doing corporate gigs simply for the challenge of it he recalls his very first time on the johnny carson show on the. Hbo young comedians special changed his life and the time when the comic with no discernible acting experience auditioned for a sitcom and ended up the star of the serious tv medical drama saint elsewhere he reveals why he originally turned down the offer to host deal or no deal and the anxiety he gets whenever he sees contestants making bad decisions on the show he opens up about his struggles with obsessive compulsive disorder and how he went from fearing that it might be a career killer to using his fame to raise awareness of mental health. Issues plus howie. Mandel gives the secret to winning the golden buzzer on. America's got talent coming up in just a moment both comedian actor and all around showman. Howie mandel as the host of the game. Show deal or no deal and is one of the judges of the hip variety show. America's got talent. now he's returning to his comedy roots for his first solo standup special in twenty years. It's called mandel presents. Howie mandel at the howie. Mandel comedy club which premieres friday january eighteenth at ten pm. Eastern on showtime howie mandel. Thanks for sitting down with me. You my pleasure. My i was sitting down. I don't know if it's with you you're sitting down. We i feel like i'm sitting down by myself but it's good that we're i didn't realize it'd be galdino. New know noble. All i'm saying is because we're in a building and there's other people sitting so i didn't say we're all sitting down together. Thank you for sitting some weird metaphysical way or something. I have no idea. But i'm thrilled to be here. And i'm thrilled to be part of this. Well thank you now twenty years since your last standup special. Why the long hiatus just two months. I didn't want to no no. You know the truth is that i have never stopped doing stand up and i've been doing like over a hundred. Livestock updates a year. Regardless of what i do. And it's my primal scream at the end of the day whether you see me on a gt or deal or no deal. And the fact that. I haven't been doing stand up anywhere on television. I think there's a whole almost a whole generation been know me as a comic and that is something that i never stopped doing. Always enjoyed doing. It is my breath of fresh air at the end of the day. It's the only thing that i do. That gets a an immediate response. There's no editing no marks to hit no commercials to throw two no broadcasting. It also keeps me real. Because it's the only thing that i do. That keeps me out of la and new york. And i get the stand in front of real people in somebody who is a broadcaster on television. I kind of have a sense. Of what real people. How they think what they relate to what they react to saul never stopped doing that. That being said the people that know me from deal or no deal or no me. From america's got talent. I which are great family viewing. I don't think what. I do on showtime on my special is great for the whole family and the opening the special. You actually say that you have so many anxiety over the fact that you might say something in the moment that might impact all the other stuff that you're doing like you said these families shows deal or no deal in that competitive way in fact of where we are today in our political correctness. You know people you're treading you know it's like without a net and you know the the stand up comedy was. That's what i loved about it. That's why i fell into it. That's why continue to do. It was my one Island the freedom you know and it's not as free as it was and part of that is the fact that everybody has access you know without context so you in a club or say something on a show then somebody writes about it and we're videotapes it on their phone right. I mean i. It's weird that used to be the people into a comedy club just to have a good time in laugh. Have a few drinks have fun now. It's like everyone goes to a comedy club. And everyone has a phone in their hand and they're just waiting to play. Gotcha yeah or else. They're just trying to record their their memo. I say to people. I see people sometimes sitting dave chapelle and a couple of the other in comics. They tell people to put their phones. They have these packets right right where they're locked away. I haven't done that and So sometimes i'll show up someplace. Or i met a concert and somebody's sitting there with their phone recording and they're looking at their phone and looking at the screen and i think they're missing the moment. I said great that you're recording because when you go home and you watch this it will seem like you were actually there because you comedy needs to be kind of enjoyed in the moment. Yeah it's not even something that even when you enjoy it that you can reiterate to somebody and it's really is you have to be there regardless of who it is. I mean there is something electric and fun and edgy about being in the moment and You know if there are moments that crossed the line if there is wherever that line is it's kind of fun to be there and witness to it instead of catching somebody and spreading it out there and let everybody comment on this out of context moment. Yeah and it's weird especially for you. A guy who does so much crowd work in kind of seems to thrive off the interaction with the crowd to have a crowd. That's that unin gauged. Well i think that. We're i don't know if it's unin gauged as much. Is you know this. Technically i think the word is disengaged. I did this engage engaged in multitasking. They're engaged. They're listening to you. They're watching you and the recording you. They're texting somebody. They're receiving something. They're getting an update. There's a call. They're working to thinking about something else. I think that we all by virtue of being around in this millennium are kind of. I would imagine while somebody listens to this. Podcast is something else going. Oh yeah same time. Whereas when i was growing up it was whatever you were doing at. The moment is what you were doing. At the moment. there wasn't even i mean i. I remember the excitement of just getting a phone in my car. You know the fact that you can make a phone call from the carbon now. You can make a phone call. You can listen to a podcast and you know Read a book here a book on at the same time. You know there are so many different things you can do at once. And unless you're firing on all those you know sparkplugs holding anybody's attention. So i did. The audience doesn't really sit and listen and enjoy anymore. Well i know that you have. Add and i have add. We both have add and it seems like everything that we have coming at us. Today is a nightmare for someone or is it a blessing for someone who has adhd. Already day. I think it's a blessing you know the truth is that i can't have enough for lull. That distraction is the best remedy. You know i mean distraction is the problem but it is also the best for somebody who has trouble focusing on one thing Much power for any length of time. Great dinner society and entertainment is set up now so that you don't have to like It doesn't exist anymore but vying was perfect six seconds. Yeah and if you want to binge-watch you know three in a row. That's eighteen seconds of your time and you pop culture or a little youtube videos or whatever watching on instagram or facebook. As you scroll by you can kind of take in a lot and mount of time so for people that are impaired or were impaired by this diagnosis. It's actually fitting for you know you grew into the culture. The culture grew into us Yeah you kinda just have to fill all those hours. Are you all all of the monotony and so forth. Which you've seem to do really well because you've got this special you've got adt you've got deal or no deal you've got. I think somewhere. I read you do up to two hundred dates a year live shows. You don't into slowing down. It's not really a lot real world and And wherever i travel most people work at least if you're lucky enough to have a job. You work forty hours a week and one place monday to friday. You know if i show up and do an episode of something or you know. I'll sit here with you for an hour. And that's you know my day and then maybe i can get in a plane and go do a show for ninety minutes. And that's maybe part of a day. Or i can go tape. Episode of america's got talent and it is what it is what you see. I'm sitting there watching a show. It doesn't take a lot of you know mental prowess or any Any set of any. I don't have to prepare or do anything and deal or no deal the game unfolds as it unfolds. You know and Stand up the kind of unfolds. I don't feel like i put in a full day's work. I feel like one of the luckiest people i know. Do you do a lot of corporate gigs of those two hundred or corporate gig. A lot of someone who's well known like you. And i love that you know they pay big money. But it's kind of not traditionally your audience or comedy audience. yeah so which. I've learned a used to fear it and kind of hate it and take the check and now i absolutely love it. It is so it becomes the challenge for me. Oh really yeah and they make it You after all these years. I've been doing it for forty years. I look for the challenge. I don't want it to be easy. I kinda understand why people could get bored on stage. Doing the same mac each and every night. But when you have something you know or if somebody walks into a con howie mandel concert or you turn on showtime to watch my special you kinda there knowing that. Yeah you know who i am. And what the what. You're getting when you show up at a sales dinner for you know some pharmaceutical company. And they say we have a surprise speaker always a big part of it. Is they go. We didn't tell anybody you're here and i go. Why is that a good. Why is that a you know. I'd like them at least know that they're gonna laugh or might wanna laugh. You didn't tell them there's any comedy tonight and we didn't tell them it was you and they also add to your repertoire. Where which you would never do to a singer but they say you don't be funny. Dave is our cfo and everybody makes fun of his golf game. So if you can mention dave's gulf score especially his weakness putting. I'm telling you this place will go. Wild and i used to kind of adhere to what the buyer and i used to go. You know that joke went over a like Dave putts and Speaking of pots. I feel like a mad because they didn't know but you would. Never if you hired a singer for the same gig you would never tell you know. Could you cheat a lyric in the second round. Yeah yeah i mean. The second chorus middle management at an insurance company is probably the worst comedy writer a crazy. I understand that you started out. When you're a kid you were inspired by alan funt and one of my favorites candid camera and i guess at some point. There's some story where you kind of decided to do your own candid camera. The camera well didn't go so well My whole life my whole life. You know in my earliest memories besides Dealing with whatever mental health issues. I had is My parents were very supportive and everything. A laughter was huge in my house and whether they were watching the tonight show or whether they were watching you know some variety show or listening to a comedy album they were always laughing and i remember being a toddler three or four years old and wanting to be part of a you know you're drawn toward laughter in no that's a fun time and you want to be part of it. I remember going into the living room. And if they're watching a comic on television you know and he'd be talking about his mother-in-law and everybody laughing. I had no point of reference. I didn't know what a mother in law was would. Not so my parents would be laughing. And i'd be looking at like. I wanna laugh too. I i want to why this is funny. And my first recollection of being aware of what was funny and joining the party. Was alan funt on a sunday night. He the show called candid camera and he actually rather than him being comic explained to me and the audience at home what he was gonna do and i remember specifically you know the bit was that they had this fake office they were gonna hire receptionist he was gonna pretend to be the boss and he was telling the person the the ladies that were asked to be the receptionist. You cannot miss a phone call. I'm going out for an hour. You must take every phone call. Because i live and die by the these phone calls. Here's what he's going to do. He tells me that he's going to tie a rope to the you could see on the leg of the desk the desk kind of on a roller thing. The the rope goes through the wall to the next room. So every time the phone rings and the receptionist goes to reach for the fall. And we're going to pull the rope and the desk is going to move away right across the room and i remember feeling that was exciting because it was that anticipation of a surprise party. They're coming under dry. I remember looking at my mom and looking at my dad. We are all like just on the edge of laughter. I can't wait to see this. And then the first girl sits down and the phone rings and they pulled the rope and her jaw drops. And i and my mother and my father were hysterical. Like crying it was funny and it's funny on so many levels not only because we felt like we were in on the joke. But it's relatable. What would i do if that happened. Be scared what. I believe it when i think of the joke is very reliable and that was such a good feeling just that laughter And i remember everyone loves to pull pranks on everyone. Well beyond just the most relatable thing doesn't have to be on your friends but everyone likes to do. It's always been a staple of television youtube. And whatever and whether it's prank call on just because it's the most relatable thing and not everyone reaction right and not everyone is a stand up comic. Many people might be in their living room and would never get up on stage. Start telling jokes but we all like descru- with our family years. Where so that good feeling i went out and got to recapture that and i did not nor was i smart enough or even old enough but it went on for years to realize well number one. I don't have a tv show number two. I don't have an audience and number three. I don't really have friends. But i want to do this. This is what i want to do. So i remember like one night Board at home. I went to the yellow pages and i called a construction company. Gave my name howard mandel and the guy to come to the school to get a quote on an addition to the library and because i thought it would be funny. I'm not. I'm just a student. I don't have the authority to do that. There's no addition putting on. And when i'm sitting in math and see this guy out on the field or measure whatever but i as i was alluding to earlier. I didn't know that it would be better if i had an audience. I didn't ask me. It's just something i did in the moment Which made me laugh. And it felt like very candid camera ish and a prank. But i didn't have an audience. That or i didn't set it up for anybody. It was just alone so these stories about me having a construction worker outside which i got in trouble with me coming up with a chocolate bar in my mouth. That looked like a piece of shit me doing crazy. Things in class became more behavioral problems. And i was asked to leave school and i don't have a ged and the ad. I say to everybody anything. I've ever been punished for expelled for. Hit for is what. I seem to get paid for today. Wow now i stand up gig. I guess whether if you can call it again was it. What yuk yuks so yeah. I went to big on dancing. You're talking about the the early seventies disco. Yeah rage and i wasn't into this go nor did i have anybody to go. Disco dancing with and there was this Kind of sweeping wave of standup comedy clubs. Taking the you know the becoming us or the improv and catch a rising star in new york and They opened this club called. Yox'je had read about it and we went there one night in lieu of going to a disco and i saw the stand up comics. Really funny is the first time i saw live standup up. You know manala just talking about what at that time. In the seventies was very edgy. And different. And i went. Oh my god is so exciting and the owner of the club is mark breslin and he comes out after he goes. Listen if you feel that you have the wears to do this. You know we're going to monday nights at midnight you're welcome to come on amateurs and The person on my table said you should do it. Okay with no thought and again. No preparation. No no Thinking about what the ramifications could be. I just thought it was. It would be funny to just fuck around and you know. I'm not a comic aspiration to be a comedian or being show business. Start at or anything. No and i just thought it'd be funny. The joke would be in my mind without thinking it through the ladies and gentlemen it. Can you believe it. i'm gonna get up on stage. I'm what do. I have to have absolutely nothing to offer. It's going to be the joke. That's the end of just. Like i never had an ending. I'm gonna come up with this shit my mouth and then what am i going to do. Nothing i'm going to hire somebody to put an addition onto the library. And then when i'm going to do nothing and nobody's gonna know about it so this is just my own little joke with my friend and i'll never forget that night. Twelve ten april one thousand nine hundred seventy seven. I hear ladies and gentlemen howie mandel and i walk out on that stage and i had never been on a stage before and the light is bright shining and burning your retinas and you look e- kind of looked down from the light and front row you see one or two or three tables and there's people that i don't know waiting in in anticipation and then you figure you feel really vulnerable. You're waiting like what are you gonna do. We don't it it's not a. It's the first time. I've is face to face with one of my impromptu. Brilliant ideas yeah. You know and i was actually seeing faces. Okay what are you. What are you gonna do because gush of adrenaline and fear and if you watch any of my old youtube stints as a stand up comic or even my first specials comedian special. That was real and legitimate. So i tried. I went in my mind. In the moment. I was thinking i got to come up with something. And if you remember my act or you saw man forty years ago i went. Okay okay okay. All right okay. Yeah and they just came out. You know as i was going all right and they could see. I was trying to think of something. They started to giggle and minos energy. And i heard them giggle. And then i would go. What what what. What are you going. And then my whole thing became this this really Contributing nervous young guy who is looking for the and i didn't know what to do with my hands in my pocket and i carried rubber gloves because i didn't wanna touch germs. Okay okay okay. I'll do this. And i hold it over my head for no reason at all. I've never done that before. I started breathing through my nose. The fingers were going up on. The crowd was roaring. And i'm going. Oh my god this is and then. I walked off when thank you. Good night and walk off stage and mark breslin said that was very good. You're really unique. Would you like to come back tomorrow. And i went. Okay wow and it never happens you know no and then i went back and i was i and that became my acting. You know. I had these funny voices that i did. You know which eventually became bobby but it was. Just maybe you know. And i would do those things. And those are things that i did in the back of classrooms. Just because i do it. I originally got that voice from choking on a piece of cake and you know in in my throat like nothing was a plan and then as luck would have it on a separate business trip to l. a. I went out and got in. And i had met mike binder who a writer comedian director He had because he was from detroit. He came played at yuk yuks. I started hanging out at yuck. Yuck and i was happy and going on stage. But not. Because i wanted or even believe that i can ever make a living at this or do this. Just it was like minded weird people who had these odd. Little thoughts shared them with strangers. And for me my analogy is like if you like playing poker and twice a week. He get together with a group of people. And that's my poker game on thursday nights and tuesday nights or you like playing basketball and you have one on one at the y. With your friends. This was my come on nights a week. I'd go over to yuk yuks and do that met comics. Who are coming in from. Over the border like minor. Who was out of detroit and dave klay and i went to california on a business trip. Something not related. I in retail. And i told mike i'm coming out because he knew that he will that he was living there and he said i'll get you on the comedy star and he got me on at the comedy star and it was just about getting on at the comedy store. Just because it'd be fun. I did that on vacation. It turns out. There was a producer in the audience from comedy. Game show called make me laugh and he said. Do you wanna do tv. And i said yeah you know thinking this is. What are the chances you're in hollywood. The sounds like such a hollywood line. He said kind of my office. The next day and i ended up going to his studio. Ktla and i was in my secretary laugh and it was like okay okay. Okay and she started out. He goes great and the they shot the next day. You know five shows in one day strip show right and they stripped it for five days. I was there for a couple of hours. i went home. Continue to my business lived in toronto and as aired. I started getting recognition. You know this is the seventies so just being on. tv changed. somebody's lives. It's not like today today. You could be on tv. You ever notice with so many channels defy. Well you know the number one show on tv ncis mark harmon an ll cool j. Who's on the other. One would like you to go down the list and name the entire you know whereas if happy days was on that time you knew rodney. Most the you know the third tier like you know so just being on. Tv got me. Recognition wasn't on in canada. And i started getting calls from talk show so i'd fly back and new talk shows and then gene simmons saami from kiss and he asked me to open up his girlfriend and his girlfriend at the time and he was living with diana. Ross became diana. Ross's opening act in vegas without an act really. Now how did that go. 'cause i'm always not when i hear singers who hire comedians to be their opening. Act on people come to hear a singer so they didn't wanna see me the lights would go down. And caesar's palace crowd would roar and you'd hear the announcer goes. Caesar's palace is proud to present an evening diana ross. In the if you listened closely nobody. Nobody heard. But i could hear because i was standing beside the guy that was announcing they said a now. But i howie mandel. Not even a comedian. How bill and i'd walk out. And i'd have the sea of people looking at me. Like what the fuck are you doing here. Yeah we're not. We're not interested and just silent and my wife who's still married to took a picture of me on those nights and i'd be wearing a A sports jacket. You could see the sweat through the sports. I would sweat through my shirt my sports jacket it was just flops wet but she liked me and thought it was funny so she kept me on but it was. It was really hard. We're going to take a quick break. And then i'll be back with more with howie mandel when we come back in just a minute and it's interesting to hear you talk about the immediacy of how these things just kind of came together for you and i hear that from comics of your generation how it was one of those things where you could go in get on stage at the comedy store and within a week get booked on carson and next thing you know days later you have. A sitcom deal wasn't like that anymore. No because so many. You know there wasn't there isn't any more one place to go out there. William gatekeepers now or in riot capers. Right and the and it could be your own gate right. Could be on your own room in your underpants sitting on your bed doing a blog and then boom explodes and you've got you know a worldwide audience and you're making millions of dollars and your pootie pie who's a gamer but no one anoint. You like carson did back in the day. No that first car cited did twenty two johnny carson. It was pretty amazing of wealth. I tried to get on carson. I couldn't get on the johnny carson show so as it turns out i met joan rivers doing the guest spots or the yes just blowing it up and joan saami and put me on. Okay saw me on with joan and said would you come back next week. And i did it with him and then twenty two times afterwards but it was it was really hard and that was the the litmus test for a comedian even beyond people who were in the business like if you weren't noun and somebody walked up to anywhere in the streets of cleveland and said what do you do and you say i'm a comedian. They would go well ever been on johnny carson and if you said no and there were many years when it was a no then all so yeah. It was like call me when you do that. 'cause that's gonna legitimate legitimize you. I had done mike. Douglas and merv griffin and but until i did carson i was not my big annointment for being able to sell tickets and get get known was the. Hbo young comedians special. Yeah on my young comedians special. The cast was me. Yes already seinfeld. Harry house and who richard lewis was a marine murphy. Yeah yeah and that was huge. Hbo young comedian vessels back then might even have a million different channels. No and my life was never the same. Yeah you know. And that was the young comedians special then again. Was you know you had three stations. And then your local fox exists so you had abc nbc and cbs. And then you had a couple of local stations and then the advent of these. This new cable like hbo and hbo was blossoming at the same time. Stand up comedy so there was no place where you could hear a young person that you can relate to being a little blue. You know or provocative are a little bit edgy. So you aired on that. I could sell theaters. And i was playing like five and ten thousand seat theaters. You know and hired a saint elsewhere. Did that come after. That was way after that that was in nineteen eighty two. I figured i'd already kind of blossomed as omic and the normal path for everybody. You know when you look at Robin williams and billy crystal. And even richard pryor the time is they got a tv series ride but a sitcom drama. I know that's the fun. So what happened. Was i went in to try to get sitcom and i went to a general meeting at mt m mary tyler moore were purveyors of great they were doing everything never hard and all these things newhart and everything that was general meeting with the casting people for maybe developing a howie. Mandel you know pilot or something and as we're talking for a couple of minutes she goes. We'll d act. And i said well i think i can you know. I don't know i've never studied but i can be myself. I'm comfortable and she goes read this and so i. I gave me a little piece of of a script. And i read it and it was all his medical terminology. It didn't. I didn't get it but she goes. It's very good. I thank you she goes. Come down the hall. And i went down the hall and there was a bunch of executive sitting in a room she goes. Listen to this. And i read it again and they said thank you and i went home and my wife said how did that good as a friday i went home. My wife's how did that go. And i went Well they said thank you. But i'm going to be totally honest with you and i know these they got a lot. I love new hard. I love the mary. Tyler moore. Show the tony randall. Show was on at the time he. Tom mostly comes. They do really good comedies. The one. I think that they had me in mind for not funny. It was not if it even makes sense to me. And maybe reading something out of context not funny. I get a call within an hour of getting home. And they said we'd like you to come and meet brandon tartikoff. Oh wow yeah. So i went down. People don't even know that name today probably but like boy wonder. Nbc turn it off. I'm taking calls. The bank calls no matter where i have the red wings taking offers. Anyway the Brandon tartikoff was the king of television brown tartokowski made. Tv what it is. He's probably the last really passionate network executive. That would go again right now. If you put something out and it doesn't work it's gone. Yeah if he believes in something he's the guy that's responsible writing seinfeld on the and he's the guy that's responsible for leaving cheers on the air which i'm doing goodness i season. He created. nbc. Thursday night he created and also what went on to these big ensemble shows them. Were the saint elsewhere in the hillstreet blues which became e. r. Even chicago hope. And all these other show. He found that formula and stood behind it even when nobody was watching and would keep it You know renewing them for another year. So i'd have to meet the king of tv. He was the wizard of oz. He's the mind the man behind the curtain. And so i go down to his office. This is an hour after. I'd gotten home and those same executives that i had read gone down the hall that molly had brought me to are sitting in the office brandon. Tartikoff i went to burbank. I read that same unfunny scene. Because we'll see you monday. So i figure i'm gonna get into the call back monday so as it turns out. I started on monday. They had an order for thirteen episodes of saint elsewhere. They started taping record Filming the pilot They were looking at their dailies like the at the stuff they had shot. They weren't happy with a couple of the characters in wanted to make changes and it just so happens serendipitous the day that i came in for the general meeting for whatever reason they saw me as maybe a bit replacement in wanna check me out so i went on a friday to meet to get and they said you're starting my agent called me and said congratulations made you an offer. You're going to be on a and i'm on a medical drama with what is that. Where did that come. Yeah and i did it. Yeah you know it must have been. They must have been trying to fill a whole They did somebody really do. I do and he went off to. He went on to win an academy award. It was david hammer. Oh yeah mr saturday night. Yeah he played. Billy crystal's gather monday night. Yes for another julie looking so i replaced him. I always felt bad about it. But then he did really well on his own. And i and i continue to get fan mail. That time we didn't have email. I would get fan mail. That said that you know. I have a bet with my husband that the doctor fisk is not the same guy that puts the rubber glove on his head. So i've always had like a real fractured audience. Yeah yeah bobby's world. Bobby's world was young. Mothers who sat at home with their three year old kids and kind of knew who i was but didn't they weren't the viewers of saint elsewhere They weren't viewers of my hbo stuff. They came out the concert. So i've always had this real fractured audience. Not until two thousand and five. When i did deal or no deal. Did all those audiences come together. Yeah yeah and it's funny i. It seems like it's a function of the fact that your act was pretty fractured. At least you know then it was and it still is in some ways. You do a lot of different stuff. One minute your physical one minute. You're doing voices you're doing comedy. You're doing observational stuff. So there's a certain element action but there is a fractured element to everybody. I mean that we are close to that fractured element interesting. You know everybody over. Thinks it's given me even though it's given me a great career it's given me a philosophy in life and the couple of things that i've said no to which are few and far between I we have a tendency and we learned to overthinking non. You know how that's going to be good. You know that's gonna be you know we all we all do what we think we should do. It's even down to how we dress during the day when you get up in the morning we get dressed. You look in the mirror and this is now you decided not only you want to present yourself how you believe that you will be presented or perceived instead of just you know you look at a kid get dressed in the morning. They don't put that much thought into it. You know and. I think our lives have to be kind of in line with that if you want success and and that's why my biggest philosopher in life in my career and my life is nike and that is just do it. Just do it. That's interesting because from what i've heard it sounds like you kind of almost talked yourself out of doing deal or no deal originally when you got the offer. That's exactly right. So with this philosophy i tell you that which kind of as a precursor to the story so it in two thousand five. Obviously the series was over. My career at best was waning in comedy was kind of a slump at that. Brian wasn't selling the amount of tickets or playing the same venues. And i said you what. I'm not gonna put myself through that. It's really disheartening. I don't need to go and show up at a howie mandel promoted concert and see a half empty theatre. Yeah that's a little disheartening. And i don't wanna do that anymore so i'm gonna lee. I'm just going to back off as luck would have it. I get a phone call from my manager. Saying nbc is going to do this huge game. Show they're going to allot five nights. Five full primetime nights to this game show and they want you to do it. And i went no no fucking way. I've just made a decision. I'm out and i'm kinda proud of what i've done. I've done about ten comedy. Specials and comedians back then didn't do game show. It was like pets. Say jack and alex trebek's just was like the wild one right while yeah no comics did not and so the one generation before me did you know groucho marx it. Oh yeah you know. And you bet your life. And johnny had done but not in my generation and steve harvey way they they all me so the currency of irony was not. You know when you're dealing with irony. You don't wanna be that guy. You don't want the punchline right so i said no i can third call back because they weren't giving up and they can they just show you the show. Can they show you the show. I go fine. I'm not going anywhere. I'm a jerry's deli. Yeah if he wants to come over and talk to me let the guy come to me. I don't even want to go to meeting for. I don't want to fucking game show. He brings over a piece of art cardboard that he cut. It looked like a seven year old. Had done an art project not even no money. Nothing pinko. They told me that this is a big show. All around the world and nbc is going to put this on every night at primetime. I've never heard of any that kind of they were all in on it And then the guy shows up with. He made it with a sharpie and his own scissors and he plays the game. You know the game deal. There's no games no trivia. Well and he goes. I just want to show you. Thanks for taking time and call me when you think about it. I go home and my wife would you do. I said well i did. Nothing she goes. We're gonna take it. And i said no. And she goes why i said because it'll ruin my career she goes. Where are you standing right now. I said well we're in the kitchen and she says where did you just come from. I go. I was by myself at the belly. Having soups she goes. You realize that as your career might as well just doing. You've always you said okay. Everything's found that it was crazy that you were going to be comedian. It's crazy that you were going to be on a dramatic novel series. Just do it. So this is a friday so i called and i said like to go thank you. We couldn't do it without you. And i said so. When does the tape monday monday. Well don't you have to build a set it's built we'll don't you have to hire twenty six models. No we have them their cash. So you gotta think how far down the rung. Was i in choices official. You know they're really. They couldn't do it because everybody else had said so I asked them in the weekend if i could hire a couple of comics and i had a bunch of comics wrens and i figured you know we looked at you. Bet your life. And that's why. I know that maybe i can find a way to showcase myself and my wittiness and funniness and silliness every night on. Nbc when you get that kind of exposure so we wrote some things and had some ideas. And i went out. And i can show you this. I kept the picture to the very first girl. I have her picture to karen van. They say ladies and gentlemen welcome to deal or no deal. Is howie mandel. And i walked out and there was this young lady and i was standing. I'm standing in talking to you sitting and talking to you. But i was standing and i said what's your name and her name is karen van and i said tell me about yourself and she told me that she's a mother of three in the boys. Were sitting right there behind her and she's never owned a home. She doesn't have health insurance. I got and then. I noticed after the first offer the i offer was ten thousand dollars and i had never been at that time you have to besides who wants to be a millionaire a million dollars and it still is outside of la in new york life changing amount. Not only that. I think ten thousand dollars is a life changing amount. If you talk to somebody from the middle of the country if you can give him ten grand right now they can put down payment on a house. They could buy insurance. They could change their life and the first offer was ten thousand dollars and she thought no deal. And i remember just looking at her and i could see the glaze when somebody who isn't in television is standing on a set in hollywood with twenty cameras around them three hundred people the lights. She was just having the best time in her life. But i realized that this was real money. And that's when i got scared. I said if i start doing my comedy and i start making it about howie than i'm gonna pull the focus from the game and she's making already starting to make bad decisions based on her own little fairy tale world that she's come into an in hollywood. I can't pull focus. And that changed informed my cadence of how i played that game really and the way. Oh yeah because. I talked to her. And if you watch me even now at airs wednesday nights on cnbc. If you watch me. I talked to people. Like i would talk to my children where i go. Listen is twenty five thousand dollars. Think about this okay. That's yeah probably what you're making a year you've been here ten minutes. Twenty five thousand dollars is yours. If you hit the button or you want a chance at a million. So this guaranteed. I'm going to hand you. Twenty five thousand dollars so it became about really driving home what it is. And that's how. I played the game then when the game finished. I did six episodes when the game finished. I was mortified. Because i had done. Not on my comedy. I had done. None of what. I thought was entertaining. And as luck would have it. It aired the first night and i got a call saying this went through the roof and then it airs the second night and they said it's bigger and by the fifth night it had exploded. I got back. I landed in miami and within thirty seconds the first person that made eye contact with me went deal or no deal and then came up really fast and then if you look you know on every show they went so the next show that came out as are you smarter than a fifth grader. When jeff foxworthy. And then they hired bob saggy to do one versus. Yeah yeah and then. They hired louie anderson to do family feud and then they hired then it just. Now it's nobody thinks gives a second thought to the fact that comics were nowhere. Yeah on the game shows. Yeah you know that all came right after that and nothing has changed my life more giving me more success than deal or no deal and you probably wouldn't have gt. and with. I wouldn't have definitely and people are buying tickets to my shows again Live stand up shows again. Well speaking of that. I want to wrap up by bringing it back to your special on showtime it's called howie mandel presents. Howie mandel at the howie. Mandel comedy club. I really enjoyed it. And you've always done like. I said a lot of this crowd work and improvisation in your act. It looks a lot like this. New special is totally spontaneous. Most comics probably work a year or two to build an hour long set so they can do a comedy special. What is it like for you. I mean totally improvised or is obviously i have material. There's no way that. I'm going to put myself in front of an audience for a national broadcast without any plan But in the philosophy that we've been talking about. I'm open and if you wanna draw me down another path could draw me down so when you watch the show. I'm not the one that opens the door. The audience has a tendency to open the door so in the neck confines of whatever. I'm doing if somebody yell something out if somebody does something in the room if something is happening in that moment it's not beyond me to bring it up to talk about it. It's also a taped show. So that i if it didn't work in a went down the other way i could cut it out. It is as it was and it was a fun audience who was excited to be there. And they They you know. I look at it like giant party and i'm just trying to center of attention. I had a lot of fun. I hope the people there had a lot of fun. And i hope anybody who watches. It has as much fun as it looked like they did. So hecklers are welcome at howie. Mandel shows yeah. I don't think people as hecklers as much as participants for me. The connotation is you suck. I want my money back. Nobody said that but people did yell out. I did have some critiques. Mostly about aesthetics. There was somebody over the lighting. Yeah some lady didn't like the lighting and nobody asked her. I find city crowd right. There probably is. I just find it fascinating that somebody would go to a taping. It's not a secret. This is my special and then feel the need to Criticize with maybe in hopes that i would change relight or i have no idea now. You also joke about your ocd and you're adhd on the show ever since you came out about your mental health issues or whatever you wanna call it. It's kind of become a part of your persona. I wonder do you ever worry. That people's first mental association with you is going to be. He's the guy who won't shake hands or something like that before your career and all the stuff that you accomplished or you feel if you're a vessel for that kind of thing then so be it then. That's a good the question really you know. I don't care i do what i do and i am who i am. Not for anybody but me It just so happens that what. I do happens to Demand some attention outside. You know. I'm i'm a comedian but i don't need to be famous. I just need to do stand up. Comedy I happened because child of the fifties to accidentally on a radio. Show talk about my mental health issues and there was a stigma attached to the fact from for somebody from my generation to say that i had mental health issues i suffer from depression and anxiety and ocd. Adhd i've got almost a whole alphabet. And i go see I've always been coddled by a family that his love means supported me. I see professionals and as we talk a medicated. I didn't know i could talk about it. And when i accidentally did and it was accidentally It kinda opened up this door of you know feeling. Oh my god you know. I'm not alone and it is an issue that we all and not only is it an issue. I think it's the answer to Making this world better if everybody would take care of their mental health like we take care of our dental health. Go get checked up. You go see if you have no cavities. Those gets checked up. And we need Coping skills and whether the coping skill is because you broke up with somebody a marriage because you lost somebody because they're passed away whether you can't handle the pressure at work that you don't have nobody teaches that to kids along the way or adult humor and we look for other reasons while it's gun control. No it's mental control. A lot of people can have gun. Not and i'm not. I'm not pro gotten or anti-gun i'm just pro human health right you know and we're not we're not healthy and we don't wanna tell people you know it's really interesting you can go tell somebody you know and i don't know if i could lift that my back is bad but nobody will say. I don't think i can do that. Because i'm just not functioning mentally well today. I don't think i can handle this kind of pressure. You won't say or you'll excuse yourself to go to the dentist but you say listen. I got a psychiatry appointment. And i'm low on my meds. I don't think in middle america. That's as acceptable as it is in this office where we talk a good for you for addressing that. I just wanna wrap up by asking you one question. That's been kind of in the back of my mind for a long time. Is there a secret to winning. America's got talent to certain acts. Do better than others. Yeah yeah yeah. I think that ultimately talent is subjective. And if you're cognizant of. I think you have to show up and be you and not given any thought because winning that contest doesn't necessarily mean you're the best it also doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to have the most fruitful career. Susan boyle came in second. She's doing fantastic court me had win. Didn't win my golden buzzer this year. And she's got a record deal and she's a huge like grace The that will go on from time to time but if you want to win the contest know your audience and the people that vote. you know. it's really funny. Because i i can't tell you a day doesn't go by when somebody goes. I think you got it wrong. Man you know who should a one that one you know was much better and i'll always say to that person. It's usually an adult ago. Did you vote no go. No i just think the wrong on one if you know. Who's it's usually. A lot of them are twelve year old females. I think if you if you're doing something that would cater to that audience. Not that you shouldn't even the music choice. You have the way you're talking. Sometimes you're going to win it just by what you say before and what you say after rather than what happens because they'll just like you and you know who you're speaking to you know who's in the room. Yeah is a is a good piece of advice well again. how he's new special is called howie. Mandel presents howie mandel at the howie. Mandel comedy club. It premiers friday january eighteenth at ten eastern in pacific on showtime. You can catch deal or no deal on wednesdays at nine pm on. Cnbc and chance airs. Mondays on nbc. At eight seven central. Howie mandel thanks so much for talking with manx for having me. Thanks again to howie. Mandel for coming on the podcast just a reminder to watch howie mandel presents howie mandel at the howie. Mandel comedy club. This friday january eighteenth at ten eastern and pacific on showtime deal or no deal airs wednesdays at nine pm on cnbc and adt champions airs mondays on nbc at eight seven central and follow howie on twitter. At at howie mandel. If you haven't already be sure to subscribe to kick ass news on itunes and leave us a review. You can follow us on facebook or on twitter at kick ass news pod and as always i welcome your comments questions and ideas at comments at kick ass. News dot com. I'm ben mathis and thanks for listening to kick ass news.

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Rogue Talk Radio with guests Carl Johnson and James Annitto -Duo Daemonologie

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Rogue Talk Radio with guests Carl Johnson and James Annitto -Duo Daemonologie

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Please visit www dot ghost of dot com or call five four zero four four eight two seven four three well getting the everybody and welcome to robe. Talk radio on the rift radio network. I'm sheila gay. And i'm here with my co host kirby debris hey curbs. What's going down. Yeah lolo oh whole lot. Just the usual stuff stuffed enjoying this finally winter day. Yes we we really did get a cool. Cool zone hit After thanksgiving thanksgiving was pretty. Nice i mean this year is all been not such a bad summer here in texas or paris anyway and pretty good pretty good winter so far probably gonna get real cold though the freezing nights already last night and tonight so interesting how you just never know how texas weather's going just saying I sent the message to our guest tonight. I have a carl johnson. And james neto. They're both amazing investigators and demon knowledge. Just and i've known james for many many years we've investigated together here. He came to texas He lives in rhode island. I do believe so. They're really nice people. And and then carl courses been in this such a long time He was at that My braids gonna shut off on the name of the house that ed and lorraine warren investigated and i will ask him when they come on. 'cause my memories hot mess of just getting all. That's the way it happens people. But i'm so excited to have them on tonight. They're always a great guests and they do a lot of speaking engagements and so that's totally totally cool next week. Of course we're gonna have on april ronin. She'll do a medium ship psychic readings for anyone as many as she can get in and the two hours that call in to the number. And i'll be posted out there for everybody Next week so she's amazing as well but we have some of the best guess on here and we already have somebody in the chat room. So i'm gonna say hello that's me. Hello typing typing. Just like that curbs. I could talk and by not very well. That's the same guy. Five really excited about these two coming on th they you know. It's hard because right when they started to make this niche for themselves of course cove it hit so speaking engagements are cancelled and things like that but there so interesting together. James started At such a young age and and karl A he he did as well. But karl's older than james so they one house of even more experience than the other and i'm really excited about that. I'm gonna go ahead and bring james on see what he's got the same james of nato my bro- son what's up. Hey i'm doing good. How about yourself doing good. I'm here with my kirby you know. He's he's the guy. Hey kirby hey. I also got karl malone. He's in the same room. Carl's here too seriously. You just like hang out together all the time. That's so amazing. Yeah yes we do we. Actually we have meals together. We traveled together. Confide i'm sorry. I know james cheesy carl. I just hang together. That's all part. We don't do those things. Well james in the new phase. So i i've left this new phase. Yes yes we had a great time together many. You just fun fun fun. Person a funny person a sincere. This is what i know about james anita That'd be in real. you are funny to. I'm just saying. I think you have great humor. Yeah you so. How are you do do in tonight. I'm so excited to have you on the show. Both of you get both together. That's have been pretty good car. Woke me up sleeping on the couch when you walked in we were going to have dinner together like keep together and my sister turned down. Her car wouldn't start yesterday so she called me up and she needed a ride. So i brought it into work. And i got here and Five of nine. And i said oh we got plenty. There's this good it's working. I mean i. I actually was inside the house and five of nine and james is being real quiet. And he's around. The james jesuit gonna show jake games are friends james. I couldn't wake him up I saw him breathing. I wasn't concerned. I could not wake him. And i and i forget i'll have to go for broken. I shook his leg. He didn't wake up. James graves and looked you know. But we're gonna now you're gonna. Oh yeah. I know lingering at delivering in this room. Yeah and terrific. Rain and windstorm. So i had to drive for that but it's finally letting up. The last few miles is better that that's pretty. That's i'm doing your wife's amazing though we are here together. You know i i was. I'm proud of you. I mean that's that's hard to do but we don't have a lot of rain going down here in texas right now. It's cold but not a lot of those gets older and regions. Yeah yeah this has been colder year. Carl it's been really unusual. Oh all right off and on here. It's now it's like it gets up to the mid to i mean Low to mid fifties it. Spend the last few days but we got the minute with sunny yesterday. The beautiful day cemetery exploring with a policy. But now you know it just. It was so windy. It's blown open doors if they're not shut all the way. Yeah and i hadn't turn around the windshield wipers. Like max yep and had to have to watch out for puddles which are like a foot deep and some places and so yeah here so there wasn't so treacherous af appreciate that i'm not talking to your spirit either although we have had served brick it every now and then we don't we don't even on your show Well we've got it. We weren't we're not. We know you can never be absolutely positive but there was some. We've had a couple of times when they're especially when psychics are on really strange stuff starts happening on here. We just never know so with the background. That you two had. Who knows what's going on Yeah if you if if you hear growling is it's not a kid could tell me not jamie about it now. Now you're alert. are you awake. Are you sleep talking. What's going down here kind of in the middle radio shows like you wanted to do radio. Do radio yeah. W. from wwl's here w. when sock in rhode island we read you the greatest paranormal stories of you have ever or perhaps whenever wants to find about that i understand that paranormal enthusiasts. Actually you're a deacon. None of those things mix. I mean man you are. The switchboard is lightning up. People wanna know how. How do you do. that's my radio. I always go good evening. Everybody this is the This is rogue talk radio from the rift radio network. And then i go into crazy sheila voice. Yeah well well. Somebody's got to jesse james already. Those numbers go see. How gotta like me. I'm just saying this crazy comedian. So aren't you have be both good people. I never liked her longview he. He's a quiet man we're making cryptic them. Yeah he's quiet he's been filmed and that's always blurry and grainy but he's been thrilling than most people. Most people believe they accept his existence Some people don't you know. But there's you know not incontrovertible but there is some suggestive evidence that there is scurvy seen in bush's very is see. He larry me a lot up and he knows that. I the humor kirby i do i. I don't even know i don't know ten minutes ago. James was fast asleep fairly true whether fifty minutes ago i was driving rain storm but like i said it. Yeah well you're both safe and in the same room so anything can happen now real awhile today with scheduling and all that and the weather at my desk so you have an informed that we are what the lay would call de manala. Just you do not. I do know that. I do well the way in a way. Although the way. James spells it Yeah throwing for the was like seventeen parlors you know. Yeah yeah my husband went. What is that word. That just makes me laugh. 'cause i'm like that's james word. It's a real word. But i mean he very thought deep lewis lexicon. There was a home lexicon this game. Yes you must learn it so i knew when i saw it i thought oh he changed it pretty much. Well i think james james did before security. Well i think example of james talk james game he said. Hey thanks james. James he said king james james before i did. You know that that's james there. Yeah it's only the dido he's giving credit where credit's due right. James sure did man. What are the guy in history. So yeah i can't i can't discredit him. You've that's awesome so so tell me what's going on. You guys are down in lockdown with all this All this going on with kobe or are you getting a live. What's going we still sit around is just as the lavar. Our stream of events have been postponed or canceled. We were going to have a busy december but not quite so much now and you know we still we still. We still do a lot of cases but not physically right now. We do a lotta concentration phone or through email so still busy in some form of fashion you know some of the events that had booked virtual so that was pretty interesting. yeah Well yeah we're still always busy. Tend to be. Yeah we get out sometime we have. We're considering all the restrictions. We're pretty active. And now you know. It's increased of course with the winter holidays. No no hibernation hibernate. we'll be. We'll stop shaving virtual well. I think that's really amazing. All the way around. I mean i hate that. Everything got canceled but that there are these new venues ways for you to help. People is great. Because i i would say we are team. Just had never dealt with a demon case and we wouldn't because we're not deeming all just so we would have to hand that over to someone else. I yeah what would you know. No consultation no. Of course you know. We're more to into being consulted. And it's it's tough to give advice to somebody and spiritual matters when you're not looking at under the looking into the i kind of feeling them out so we can go on what they tell us. Yeah but you know a lot of the stories you know aren't necessarily the same either but you know of course because every person is different you know so but sometimes very woven things within their story or characteristics of forms of how they interpreted that no can lead us towards dissecting what's going on but like karl said it's hard not physically being there but you know thankfully some people can be Their crisis can be diverted from By talking to them and if they're talking about demon sometimes our best thing we can do to say. It doesn't sound like a demon so we can always disqualify that subject and you know keep going from there interesting so with with the cases that you deal with. Do you know when you walk in. You know from what they told you or. Do you feel when you come to the location. I mean how how that work. What are those. What are the kind of criteria. Or what are you looking at mean. You're trained for this. And i'm being real. Our team is not trained for that. And we don't we choose not to be. I think that's silly to think you can do something like that. I mean i really think it's dangerous as well for our clients for several games. Yeah and yeah as far as creek here. There is a standard criteria. The things we look for. But we're also dealing with individuals and individual basis and it's You're only as good as your last case. So we really don't know that we always have that trepidation. That element of the unexpected. And we don't know what we're going to run into so that's kind of Hairy in theory you know. There's there's an apprehension we always feel and i. I don't think we'd be affected. But we didn't have that level of apprehension. 'cause you know you really have to be on guard but situations are fascinating as well as intimidating You you don't know a minute minute. That's not sure james. I know james has had this experience. 'cause i know what he's told me When you're up against somebody that's going under a fit Of what you say possession and you don't know what they're going to spring it you don't know if they're gonna jump out a window know you know what they're gonna come out with for you. Don't even know if you can help them. But you just have to proceed. And i find what's effective is. Of course there's preparation Some people incorporate fasting. I'm not as good as fast now but you know prayerful preparation and a self resolution that you're there for forthright purposing. You're not going to be driven out because you driven out there's not going to instill confidence in the people. You're trying to help Just decide whatever happens. You're going to stick with it. And you act without authority. What i did in my first demonic situation. I i on case providence rhode island a lot of years ago I was saying. I know why i'm here. I don't belong here. What are these people. Expect from the but and the subject was a fourteen year old boy and that was a really freaky situation. So what i did was. I acted i. Walk up to him and put these boy when he was under his possession which was genuine. I'm sure i put my hand on his shoulder. And i looked in the eye and i said stop stop. I don't know why what possessed me to do that. I don't know why. I thought about it the moment when i was painting that confidence. I didn't really feel because i hadn't had didn't have time to cogitate on it so that was effective So you know you you put yourself out there And then intellectualize later. Yeah yeah definitely take weeks For you to actually case to understand everything that's going on to determine but you know. I don't think carl i never really truly conclude for what we deal with. We have ninety or maybe an opinion or Or a group opinion What we could have dealt with. It's hard to like you say to put something in tastes the demonic when there's just so many things look at you know most cases that we've dealt with where people we're we can quantify that they had some form of possession through this demonic force. There was always trauma and always so. So there's so some some imbalanced you'd have to figure that out fine that out the dissect investigate There's so much to it. But the one thing i say to people and i don't you know you know go by title human manala just. I don't call myself. Declare sentient clear audience clairvoyant. I don't i'm not. I don't say i'm like museum. I don't i believe some pe- everybody has in some form of fashion intuition. Whatever you wanna call it but I think a lot of times that i've dealt with those cases and you know i can count them on one hand And fifteen years. And i believe carl same about the same for forty ratio having spread out. Yeah they're rare situations. What i've always told In all those cases there was a severe offsite fright or flight Situation at hand. Like as soon as i walked on that property even though i had a little corporation of or understanding what could possibly be going on in the south. I've always tried to be individual morsels later on in my life Even though. I'm still young doing this that i've always tried to find it. I always try to go in there with a perspective or an idea. His notion what's going on. But every time i've ever truly dealt with a true demonic case In my opinion and of course in some psychotherapy therapy therapeutic belief as well. Because you know heads some kind of therapists involved You know those those situations fight feifer like came into play in that over emotion on that dreadfulness of being their feelings getting punched in the soul place over and over again. Repeatedly like you're gonna be sick. Those same happened in most cases and only those cases. So i think that's Things lean towards as well for myself. Yeah so this what. We consider a human generated. Don't even make it scare. You know again apprehensive. Emotion giving you don't really feel like you're onto water you know and trust your own around you. Which is this decision. We experienced the demonic con- you know there is a difference. It's a sense. it's it's subjective. it's hard to put it into words but when you're into it you know just like you. Just this is not right. Something's up here. This feels fresher and sickening. You get nausea but not. It doesn't feel like you're coming down with a cold or any feels like i don't belong here and that's phone that case i was talking about. Although it was a jew judicata as being authentically demonic. And people would ask me. Boy was that is you had a demonic. I said well certainly seemed like it. Because you know then it's very difficult to quantify and you don't know it's more about origins than than manifestations other time same story to is like the always told me to deliver on that story a little bit is what other case that you've are part of that you felt like you wanted to jump out the window. You know the only time. I felt so sometimes i felt like i wanted to run out the door. Yeah yeah but It was a time that i was taken over. Kinda feel with. This boy wouldn't mailing Because we were pushing this entity out. We had to treat it like like a real dealer. That was the only approach we could say. The evaluations comes before and then afterwards But while we were in there with this expulsion procedure you know it was all hands on and at one point to my complete sobriety my astonishment i felt like i was being taken over and i'm not subject to suggestion that much. I'm afforded nonoc subject and Alderson i this and i do mean subtly felt this on russia. That was alien was fine. I felt frayed and anger like tendency. The violence i said what is this. It was like a drunk and Something was telling me and it was almost an irresistible impulse. I lived at the window. Come about jump off that window and well. I concentrated on my own sense of self. I'm carl you know. I'm not gonna be taken over by this probably great at the time. I just remember concert and concentrating on where i was. My state of being. And as i did that i was asserting marcel dating my ground and i felt this thing. Cloudy in the back of my head actually. It was like fingers vacuum effect. With and also i was over that on russia chaotic emotion but within that same split-second that creature entity seemed to go into a young lady in the next rumor was part of the team assisting this young lady twenty three years old i think She wasn't experience much for these things and she fell to the floor and started pulling out her hair and handful and screaming shrieking more the but that was the interest in it it went automate. Felt depart from me and it seems to go into her. She was a room away. And i went over to help. For all horrendous manifestations there it was a successful procedure we succeeded in drag. This thing out of the board and i didn't know they succeeded. I didn't expect it to wow so with that. That is mean that is just crazy. So do you think the average the paranormal investigator would realize something is different about a location. I know we do the questionnaire prior to no. We can't where we don't wanna get we. We want someone to get rid of it but we don't wait up going to affect the family like that. Try to take that on. That's out of our wheelhouse. But i feel like we would probably know it with all the investigations. We've done we've known some come across some negative energies. That wanted to present like that. But i got none of that like i didn't get sick. I didn't but they were really angry that we were even there. That's a whole nother situation. It's frightening as well but they don't attack us in any way of normal yeah demonic I think for a lot of teams that would unless they had played right but remember. It's rare so loud teams won't ever come across some places like they're voting mixed diagnose the case to be demonise not but I think that people to forget even know the sense of Urgency this the. The sense of fear comes on to you There are also very manipulative than you know. And they at times can Manage task you're perceived to be something different than what it is To us you know. So a lot of teams might not know what they're dealing with and Shrug it off but a lot of the times that if you if you really observe it Kind of mutual That you'll you'll see the little things that happened you know like the if there is a manifestation of an apparition there's always going to be some bigger with mac version there are certain things within Their disappearances phenomena that occur where you'll be able to try to steer that ship a little bit but too many people jump to that conclusion Within one investigation within two investigations because they got f you war some evil guttering laugh on p. You can't determine something be demonic with our. fortunately a lot of times misdiagnosed. Jump the gun. Now here with the man said he's talking about disfigurement. I believe he's talking about what it's an apparition of being. What actually appears rare does happen. In fact i was. He can do a lady She was consulted last evening about manifestations she saw a physical well it looks physical being and he says is they. Don't perfectly replicate the human form for some reason. They turn into something so they might have animal attributes or they might be distorted. Figured look like desiccated corpse there's always something wrong. It's not somebody you'd sit next to on the bus. You know even if he out his mascot normal looking. There's something it's it's a. There's some rule that they can't or an inability to perfectly replicate the human form like like an anthropomorphic person. They're always weird looking and that's why they got such a bad reputation these demons because when they're seeing you don't wanna going again and i have talked to. I don't know how many people perhaps it doesn't by. Now who have actually seen a demon. And i can't show you now probably could send it to I have a picture of what. I believe to be a demon demonic visit rare when there seemed even more just to get even more rare when they're photographed but they have been photographed in. I have one of those few photographs. And what would you. How would you describe you not to wholesome looking. It's definitely not you know it's Of course people wanna see that photo there is up to show that vote else We have podcast every well. We do our best to have every thursday. But this is the new shows Run her youtube. You can watch one spirit for talking and then another one but Yeah we display that and we can also of course display it in After this as well on her arm page so people can see. It's a very interesting. you know you. We had nick. Ross on actually showed. Nick rob us right nick. Ross on because after conjuring special and the first thing he thought about it as well you it is. She felt sickening feeling. I guess some people could get that but you definitely feel uneasy looking at day. there's there's something so serving about it. Distorted any evil looking at some it it seats into your soul making penetrates. I call it joke arrest. kinda looks like the batman joker. Yeah mouth like the mouth proportion you know how is so different. Compared to like a human make a python will get your jaws to swallow animals right. That's what it looks like a student as a distended jaw tongue t you can see some didn't visit the isles eiser. What's most disturbing. The nostrils or arched shriveled has reptilian is A nasty looking creature. Yeah i would definitely say the is something that is significant because one of the things that most people don't understand when it comes to somebody that is under for a possession No being afflicted by this demonic force. It's gone to the stage one of the things that always been. Even i guess in some trench channeling state people have gone into and cer- certain situations but we're still demonic realm when they're under this rage or this possession No there is yeah are are so penetrating. Like they're not looking at you but they're looking through you and that's why it's not looking at you. Slipping through their category. Yeah let's criteria for demonic on us. The answer is seen or the person is possessed. They're looking right for you. Oh yeah you know. You're like they know they know us through. Oh yeah it's a scary feeling because know there. There is don't necessarily stay transfixed on you like like you're definitely they've been seeping into your soul you know. Yeah that's totally creepy. James was creepy subject. Yes it is a creepy subject. And i am very happy that it's rare. Thank you what what do you feel how. How did they even make their choices to they're going to. Is there a of that person at that time or for that matter or they've opened something by you know we've got these people that ask was question you answered it. Brought some reason. They contend to trade Excuse chewing on. Chocolate's my brought trumpet nuggets over which is standard for our our our interviews talks. We always have to have these chocolates and drama for your dinner. Sorry level going. There has to be some invitation. Now that doesn't mean that somebody going into a spirit board or match ritual and says you know you will appear before me was That invitation with psychological weakness. Like if somebody has james was saying Seriously unresolved conflict or trauma some bugaboo and we all have some cobwebs. But somebody's got a real stress point trying to deal with the demon will take advantage of that at that time now. There should be rules against this. But apparently there are if there was emotional imbalance in mental illness dean construction and they get a foothold that where so many call forth the demon without even meaning to yeah and then some of our research you know and carl has been kind of line to is like was would the demotic exist without human psyche so in the same spectrum is you know are really the ones that beckon the call basically like Do our problems create this force. Come forth to us Because got to remember. These things are evil. Record these to the evil within these the odyssey's of good versus evil. And so you know if you are in a negative call set. Emotional stress inscrutable zaidi. You know especially if you're dabbling this field and you come across something. Maybe that was conjured or Or dunk ritual in your in your poking around at this place and somehow this entity is still lingering there who knows why it's still lingering there it's you know Control to be there but you know it could snap onto you and say okay. This person's of point mind you follow them but also interesting within crawls research and some of the research that i've done to is even beyond the spectrum like angels versus demons and are are these forces that the human mind have kind of career and some spectrum as well we're at follows all the characteristics and it follows the bilo what we think in in both war meant but they comes to fruition by the human psyche. We're just an interesting. You know i'm not saying that. You know it will follow the pattern of expected to be. Yeah but maybe originated somewhere in the murky recesses of our own minds that would explain why they seem to know a lot of us if the demon comes over and rose conscious. It's gonna have it's to know all our weak points to know what to call off. Do you mean everybody thinks the demon has more power than does the. Then they're strong they don't get rum's not like you should go play patty cake with a demon and expect it to be all right in the spectrum of things too is limited and like they can't tell the future they can't have practice prerequisite Creek united nations. Thank you and so pretty good with your free in your car. Yeah arthri right well. So but in that same form is that they're limited in what they can do. They're not all powerful. Like most people think people think invading the officer. You know there's all over can't do anything. Yeah what about the other side. The angel angel is also a celestial being. that's good yeah there's also created being and Never want humid forums to what we know. They have some power to People don't think of invoking the angel so much Adrian do angels appear to people differently if there was a time. When i was diagnosed with leukemia and i had been through open heart surgery and i just didn't want to even go on anymore. I just was laying in bed crying. I wasn't going to fight them with me. I was giving in and there was. It sounds really strange. Like i've lost my mind but there were three images that were glowing the end of my bed. There were speaking to me in my mind. Because i was in such a down place. I was just ready to give up. I mean it just didn't feel like i. I could fight another battle at what i heard them say was. This is not your time. This is just your journey. But they were glowing. I thought i was losing my ever loving mind. I'm like what that belief or these things but it was so peaceful. And you. And i got i was just that was it. I was fighting it. You know about. They just gave me the strength. I need. I've not giving up. And i'm i'm in remission today so i i don't know those were all i can explain. They felt like i was like pure love. I don't even know it was beautiful. It's truly and golic does not. Yeah they sound yelich. Yeah it's a question too is they. Do angels Inform your differently people. I have to say yes you know. I know people that supposedly talking angels. Who have had experiences until i had jelly experience Do i do think in some form. They do appear In what you perceive them to be. Just in the same way maybe a demonic would as well because i used pop culture for reference sometimes because it we could carl nyc get into the nitty gritty of the -nology And it could get very boring for some people because there's how indepth gets and there's so much research literature to it but yeah there was a movie that has something to deal with international being At name moved to call it and one thing that is does is with that movie is he. Plays upon their fears and manifest in ways. What they fear so in the same form as in jealous need the appearance you as the it could appear to like maybe stoic manly or More feminine is dependent on the person's perception The way that they can relate then jelly for off. It's just life or a loving embrace. But i think gets the same form with the demonic as well. You both standard is they might Manage something more A tune to what you fear or what could it could do. Assess you and sometimes. That's a loving embrace to sometimes i could be an appearance of a loved one and that's where of course that's where the disfigurements are in place. But yeah so Yeah the beans. Celestial beings condemning appear to you many different forms wanting that we can say definitively And that has changed since Angels and demons and other Dt's in inhuman entities have been documented is. Most of these beings never had a physical body. they're they're pure spiritual form pure spirit so of course how they pure to to an individual could be different in many forms fashion right. Yeah there was no facial features or anything. It was more like a light being in three three of them. But at the end of my bed and i didn't speak to me out loud that i i it sounds like it's i'm just lost my mind but like could hear him in my mind saying and there was so much saying it was like you were saying it was like being held by something with pure love or something like i was embraced so this new found like just to get up and fight this. You know crying. I think you're paying just comes. You've been recovered Well that happens to be the only time they've shown themselves to me. So i had no idea i i. There was a tiny bit of fear but the comfort level was unbelievable. Like pierre p. Were love like you never know from a human for was it was amazing. It was comforting healing. And it was exactly what i needed at the time. I needed it to buck up a karoo. So i've never really knew what that was. I never had anyone that could explain it or or talk to anyone else who had had any experience like that in my experience within djelic my one and only time to be honest with you is i had the same feeling You know all over motion like positive like reflection upon That sphere then of course all the lights were brighter. Like they'd say that hugh light got much brighter and Yeah it was definitely an interesting experience. So i guess you know. Of course there was something malevolent involved as well Pretty much prior to that. But you know there was a different feeling you could. You could definitely feel the ship that spirit change the no It was definitely eye opening experience. That's sure you know these Angels and demons Donnelly like dan brown now Then dettori just for not appearing in a way we can see you feel them century turtle and again subjective. You might see Furniture move or something when she could also be a poltergeist defined. Closer guy says a demon. Well diesel would be regarded with an attitude That's how they performance that that has a real loud to taste of on it. But if you isolate the frequency that a demon jenner unless they deem the angel to the demon generates they don't like i which is another thing They don't like to be seen they. They can't help but be photographed. Sometimes they want that they don't want to be revealed. Now if you've been isolate the unique frequency of what we consider a demon Take all the readings you can when when you're pretty much you can't be sure but when you were inclined to believe that it's a demonic on demonic manifestation if you could see what the lighting it's get a reading of the lighting that time the lighting in the room. 'cause the lighting changes. That's dark in the room then You know it starts dark then and you feel it's demonic okay. There's there's instrumentation the will read you know how much time there and we're luminance. And it's actually loose ferret the gauge light. You could isolate that. Then you have another demonic on and you get a similar reading now. you've isolated that people seek and what he has the frequency it's weights particles cons. You get that then. It is causal. Probably not practical. Maybe impossible but it's kind of flaws -able. Someone could develop a device that actually sees the demon. Now you know you may have to go through a lot of situations before you can actually succeed with it and you say you have a spectrum like you have a Light you can project or you have glasses special goggles and it sounds way out there. Just you know document that frequency and reproduce it then you might be able to see the demon like catch it. It might only be like for the millisecond which rain wouldn't register but it might be like thousands of a second and you just want something like food. I saw something. Yeah so something in motion and If you're lucky enough maybe it would manifest for a second that you that you could really see what you're looking at with. The demons are seen some time. So yeah i'm i'm very close to a person in indiana so she saw demonic form and didn't believe her and her twin sister saw and then her father who didn't want to accede to the belief in this their father so i brothers thought they also there's even it looked somewhat different to all uh-huh you know but i believe it was. Yeah and and they saw so that as the question. Can you make a device that enables you to see a demon You know that way. Where can you actually make it. Happen is children the same same forum to like. You know we're talking about taxes these things like you know i've never seen a demonic form like all amount obama like base and Like carl. I believe that time but like your in florida like oh yeah this is. Its first that this this entity common towards the camera. You know that that that's a point of captured be used. I've only had one case. I've never been art of where the monarchy itself was captured in some form. And that was cumberland rhode island. It was this series two episode. Two of my ghost story. It was called demon shadow and And they there was The are going on and the this was a case that was handled by johnson calls brother then myself and then i father bob balian When he was still active in this and it was a very it was very restrained case. They had some personal had been there. I was sitting at a table on and my rosaries were right when i was sitting down punching him. He's seen it. But in that. In that case you know the are fortunately able to capture this this demonic force but it was in the form of shadows but very over seven foot tall was able to encapsulate look looking go door to capture that much. Well it was interesting. This camera was pointing out for any course you can watch my story absolute to she's in too. But you know the dvr cameras looking out the doorway in this room because that's worse some nominal said to have happened. You know the they could. They could see shadows walking in the hall And fortunately thankfully you know they said that up team you see. Prt did and they captured that. This this shadow the shadow figure walk past the door and it notice the camera. That's thanks and they walked and they walked in the this. The shadows figure which. I would believe that the demonic entity walk back and peek into the room. And you could see this thing like peak right At the door it's very. It's very like crazy. Because out of all the times i've ever dealt with the case that would occur time something when every cat. It was in motion and emotion events. Cognizant that had a reaction direct directed. Yeah it's sort of the camera. The camera like peaked interference. Like oh i wonder i wonder if that old crap i got captured dog. You probably could have got rid of it. Yeah city they did something like that. They did on the gas chamber mass. Did they not with at least yeah. That was the medium and they put gashing john and that was helped to bring her to some level disability to see them of the device for vision. And it'll probably never be created. But it'd be interesting working premise. You know yeah. I that would be in really interesting now. And yeah maybe we'll marketed. I mean there could be. It could be simple process. There'd be a simple principle off. Were you just need to change the filter. Glenn see these things going that would that would be. I only know one person who invents things very smart though. I will message and see what he thinks about that. He's quite genius Well cook about with you too so i. I don't have anything to do with that. You can you see. Can you see a demon base as possible to see more The real person space you know they like if i was sitting across from this person who used to be on our team and i thought it was something was wrong with my eyes or my brain because she had she had hooked up with somebody very negative and she had a lot of negative things going on in her life. Her personality changed after we went to this really honda location. We did four our team just for fun at after that she she wasn't the same she was never the same tried getting help. We didn't know where to go. But we were sitting at a restaurant. And i thought i was having a stroke because i was seeing something like more from her face momentarily. It was so quick. And i'm looking at the lady next to me thinking. Is she sing it. And i'm looking into other people thinking in my my brain ing or have i. Am i having a stroke. You know because all these things. I'm trying to think physical for me and it was gone so quickly but it was there and she. Her whole personality changed. She didn't want to have anything to do with us We had to finally ask her to leave the team and she just was so hateful. Her voice even changed on the phone screaming at me. But i didn't know how to help her. She wouldn't allow us to help her. Even if i suggested. Could we talk to somebody. Just see if they would know what's going on with you know. There's nothing wrong with me. And i don't know but i've never seen anything like that before in my life and i did. I wasn't having a stroke. Thank you very much for that. But i spoil. She must be having problems. But i didn't know at the time it was so long ago i didn't know who to go to with something like that or would even believe it. Well i suppose the jewish in oklahoma. Paranormal has a case like that eleven years ago. Really i was. I was called in for that. Actually go on. And i didn't see the session. I saw the woman being taken over in their video. Playing when i could tell that was up antics but she had to remove ourselves from the case because of the hat interviewed about it. Yeah as far as far as the more the face. There's only believing relation one time. Yeah i've seen the trying leash is like i've been involved with three different Forms of possession of different individuals. And only one time i've ever seen the fish trying -ly and when we talk about triangle which cheekbones structure the point out and the starting to get our face becomes Alteration in the reality. It's just remarkable like you say. The patient comes drawn. Yeah it's almost like it's like plato. Poor sick yeah. It looks like a finnish fast. You know like one of the tribal mass. Yeah that's another about criteria. There's another indication that demolished when the triangulation occurs Interesting because i could. I could still see her. And that and the overlying if that makes sense casino harper put the other. It was like they were. I don't really would struggle between herself and whatever this was so it's not white taking her over and i don't know how how she now what she just cut us off after. I tried to get her help and done. Nothing was very very strange. Her whole personality changed and it could be just a medical issue. But i don't know what i saw there. I was doing a sideways. Look like a heck. Maybe she needed to retire from paranormal investigation. All the governor shoes susceptible Yeah definitely. I don't know she yeah she. She has retired from it altogether. I i hope that she's gotten how. But i don't know that because she won't talk to me every night every name in the book when i said we want to help you and we will find someone help you. Oh i've never seen anybody get so angry. Yeah people infected differently. You know depends you know. Some people aren't meant to be an influence situation like they're they're easily influenced their subjective like the. Carl said they're you know they're like hypnotherapist is a good example. Some people can't go under no therapy. Because they're not subjective right so there's some people that are easily a able to intrude into because of a lack of willpower. You know certain intrusion. The truth is a good way to put it So there's criteria. Listen people like it's it. Just it just dependable. You know some some people. Just get affected. These lear and when people are affected. There's certain things that the body reacts to you know when you think about it if there's something that jumps into its demonic gorka spirit through the former transient channeling You know you bobby reacts. You're you're adding an outside force into something that not meant to be there. So you body. Racks physically mentally spiritually all those aspects yet. So interesting question. You like Currently how many questions your children are. Keep you people calling. I have anybody call right now. They're someone in the chat room but they left the chat room so callers sometimes He's like well. Yeah i'll put it on spotify and it goes right onto spotify as well so they can listen back. 'cause a lot of people monday through to weird qualify as easy to use. Yeah yeah yeah. That we haven't hooked up sort of odd medically upload spotify where they can watch it back. Once it's uploaded here still it takes a few minutes walk talk. Yeah yeah. I would consider demon analogy to this for me and for so i would consider it to be perhaps the most fascinating aspects of paranormal exploration. Hey i don't know if you remember show was on eighteen years ago twenty twenty years ago. Quincy down in the nineteen nineties and the two thousand and quincy with the lake. Jack klugman yeah. i remember. it would start off with a cliff. Every episode the lead in sounded within He would hey his corpse on a table with a sheet over it. Thank you police officers. There is this gentleman. He's he's wearing his greens. Gentlemen you are about to enter the most fascinating as the mustache fascinating corridor of of police science the science of forensic forensic science and then you know the guys pass out and get sick and all that fascinating sphere. That's what he says. The most fascinating fear of detection work science license forensic science and so that's what would deem knowledge to us as it's just Because you're dealing with something disembodied. Something would personality something with attitude and probably an agenda something very elusive and you try to isolate it and you look for commonalities. Common packers blows. My mind can be something like that. Even though we don't we're pretty sure never thoroughly understand it unless somebody comes those goggle. Somebody comes out those that we'd letters what are the commonalities that are That that happened we how. How do the way you recognize that you're from what i'm hearing is mostly the feeling you get when you get on the property or that far off nearly one dealing drives. Yeah your church. Sonic of kinetic force it. can Can move armoire the setting the couch move. Move the chair with me in backwards which has happened to me twice god and do things like that when you when you say something that has finds offensive. Vote trying to scare you. That's when the blinds suddenly author reuters. And you know like an agassi. Yes religion. I will fly off the sea off the wall or off the table and In fact i had that happened. In that case i was citing There was a picture of jesus and that was next to that table. I looked at it again. Because i was hoping subject would look at the picture and i looked at it again and it was upside down very revealing to realize that while i was standing there and i didn't see it happen. It flipped itself Upside down must have done that. Yeah and you and you would hear Normally you would hear it if it came off the wall and turned. And you know you note here. But i didn't hear so subtle. Yeah is there was a camcorder going. Would've catcher that flipping around Yeah but it's feeling like james was to me. It feels like you're in a like either being compressed and and you're going to have the bench or something on the water is pushing on yours is a. Why do i feel this. That's just it you know. You don't know why you feel all this bad negative than station. Lavery hanson just wanna get out of there like something does not want me here and it's a physical pressure so here you do. They feel fear of you knowing. Do they know that when you come near them that you you out the the possibility hopefully to read read got rid of him so they fear you their their their best Best ploys because they do hear the knowledge that they do feel the priest. You don't wanna be shaken. They don't wanna be sent away. And this is somebody who specializes in an least gonna give it a good try to get rid of the demon. So of course appears on that level of is the The living person of course. And that's why it's so manipulated because you know even though there are strong and powerful to some degree that but they're big is their biggest strength is that they're unseal and once they have been figure it out and are able to start. That process of banishment You know there is some sort of fear because they don't want to detract from their target. They they wanna keep being manipulated parasitical then want and they wanna keep Molesting the person that they are dealing with. So you know. Of course when you know individuals like karl myself and you know other people that deal with this kind of work you know when we get involved. There's some sort of detracting that perhaps it happened. You know one of my biggest things and you know Still kinda sucks and talk about it. Because i opening of how things can can occur in home. Thoughts can be into intercede to your mind to trying to keep you away from this situation. But i usually talk about not usual. This question up but I had a nightmare. One time where. I was consulting with this case and in massachusetts in i was in the consultation consultation stages of no email and phone at that point in time i had never seriously in there to do a consultation or two sets physically had never seen house had never seen the family knowing that had never asked pitchers yet at that point And they were. They didn't have any pictures to give me like scratches glad that they were at this point. La felt something you know. The kids were seeing something they received. Something things moving around by location So you know. And there was some sense of fear of living in the house and then they would shadow figures dr but nothing that they could order audibly or physically collect through any kind of a device and so i'd never seen these people mind you for the listeners in I had this nightmare within that week of wa- going there to to physically do an assessment and there's nightmare cons- Consisted of me getting this location me. Seeing every single member of the family being the house walking in the house housing the of the dream and the nightmare walking in the house and killing every single member one stanley. I see it might every single one of them even the kids. This gets more. Yeah believe it or not and by what occurred is that day. Of course this is this nightmare on my mind like oh nice. You know what's going to happen like you. I try to go on like a neutral mindset like i said the same thing as carl goes in there with the neutral line fat but you still have this kind of daring on like this was pretty creepy man. You know like. I woke up out of fit. You know. basically a sweat creepy green oh And what makes it more. Carlson is when i made my eyes upon these people they were to physical t what might nightmare had conception of them to look like so not only was the family. The spinning imaging might nightmare member. I'm never seen people. That house came as well from decorations inside the house. From the exterior of the siding. The you know the windows and it hit me on my whole shoot and the only one only one thing that did not happen. Not killing family. Because if i do that would not be on his phone. Call right now Right what it was a victory. I was like yeah it was yeah. It was a detracting in new. I was there to come and help this family from being molested by this force and it was trying to detract me from going trying to track him deterrent. No maybe that's why games that dream you know because like we know you're gonna try and help these people i'm going plan division of what they look like. And you're gonna you know gonna scare the jesus when you see them. Yeah that's the only way. And i know i know many people I've done this to you. Know beyond on carlton then at the same thing. Where they're they're there. Been some sort of vision or some sort of feeling or some sort of like personal issues that came out of left field to detract these people to deter these people from going there and you know sometimes it did occur them did stop them from going and the family that would make me think twice or three times if i came and so i killed all your people. I don't wanna be rahm us. i never. I never told them that. No because if you had been really really shocked to see what you're seeing in your dream. I know you wouldn't kill anybody. I mean takeover possess you for you to do something about who you are but you. You had to be shocked to see what you saw. Being repeated. i came close. I came running down my way because oh really is really was. It was death defying. Just pro you ask well. Yeah that would stopped even more if i was fasting. We've been dry air bar liquid with no. I can't i can't i. It wasn't it was that is very scary. Yeah i've never had. A pre cog kata dreams. We have to win our team. That does she does have very frightening dreams and some of them have come close to true but like you said the really The part that would have been the most Physical didn't happen but where we were going. She was explaining. All you know all of it so so crazy minded more remote. I'm better if i'm at home and you give me a picture and remote view have been trained by your trains remote viewers. Yeah there's this tech six national production. Yeah i'm better with that. Because i pick up too much energy. If i'm trying to pick up what's going on at the house if they send me a picture of the house before we go. I can in my mind. I walk myself through it. It's sorta see things that are happening. yeah i don't do is i have something like i can't i can't turn it on and off. I've been to a place or ivdr drafted being there and then manifested comes really actually go to the place and here. You like this place a couple of minutes here. That's i think that's amazing. How are our minds work and how much of it we don't use because i think everyone has has the if they wanna call them now. There's so much that they're were frightened of in opening that part of their brain that they just don't use it just shut it all down. I think when we're children were like a big open house. When we know a lot of things that i like. I knew when my grandmother died but my parents got so angry. That i knew something. I couldn't have known a half hour before it happened. And we were in california and she was arkansas. But i knew it i came out. Just just you know because she was all peaceful and i didn't think it was anything negative and i didn't get to know them that well but i'm like grandma. Jones died in there. I saw it. She's okay they're like what so angry at me and so much and then they get a phone call. We didn't have cell phones. I'm back then. They had off. Yeah yeah before. They knew she was had passed so they thought it was so evil about me. I mean i. I really got in trouble for that so i shut down. When you're a child you're a big open house with no blowing a lot of things you don't know when you're a grown your own jokers after we get it. Yeah he's closed doors. Yep someone tells you you can't see that you can't know that you are not an on and kids kids know more than we think they do. They really pick up on. A lot of things intuitively and and all of that if we nurturance getting getting angry at yeah. My nephew is i like that. So to and is always gonna restorage been in the apartment complex and this Little sebastian news wasn't three at and he he's pointing down the carter and he's saying he's here he's here. Oh i said it was older brothers. Shaun what's your kids. Want him as my now. The other one's way taller than me. But i said that the older brother. I said once you talk about and sean said oh. He has an imaginary friend now. yeah he's pointing the voice pointing and then were leaving. He turns just where he was looking down the corridor. Anyway he's he's way his hand by girl his fingers imaginary friend which was pretty eerie looking at the same spot that then he was something that yeah i think there is. I think there's a lot that the children know. Unlike they don't tell us older brother he would end. You know what happens when people die and does everybody die. He went and where do we go. He would ask those questions but his older brother wouldn't ask those questions. So i i think that's why he was more interested in spiritual realm. That's maybe why is tight. He saw that you had that imaginary friends so to speak. Yeah there's also theory on opinion to have better rockville very long time you know. Of course we've got determined a little bit of what the glenn does releases melatonin which homes you go to sleep. Put you in a relaxed state. But meditative meditated. But other than that. We still don't know what that glen does To to its full potential and for long time as been preconceived to be the third eye and would make sense because the young age opinons not fully developed if result at all as a child learning about this now so if your child and your glands dot fully developed need that's why children have more out of the ability to the things that adults can't be because the gland something when the glenn wasn't develop i thought it just makes you short. You know what it is thought that maybe primitive man. We say primitive firearm respected primitive. Like the end at the Promoting the hormone. The end lenses now they were pretty pretty bitch and people you know three. They were survivors. They were specialized adapted to their environment and and they had brain capacity was higher than we have bigger brains than modern humans but their brains were formed differently their skulls football shape the swelling in the back of the head so we wonder if maybe they had some propensity to see things because certainly all had language but not as developing sophisticated as far as their concepts and they're able to the ability to enunciate couldn't have quite like ours so maybe they needed to survive. Maybe they needed to develop heightened senses extrasensory and the needles came out in that enabled them to see that they're behind them. Or you know invading tribe you know coming around the bend. There's also no theory to the human mind is capable of a lot of things and you know there's also no theory of course you. The theories is not something that call nine necessarily agree There's another theory about. Of course we did come in. African plains The human mind developed from Of course early humans consuming shrooms or Was that Who's an exposed. I don't like mushrooms. Yeah yes but man. no. I know shrooms but Yeah like second name. The actual tamila knowing that there's tlc tetra heidrick. Lory you know We gotta get it. We'll get it okay. Yeah i'll think of the the theory. Is that because if we came Centralized after complains that there is a lot of these if you go there now there's still a lot of The mushrooms that have this like dental properties and. They said that he early humor. It's not to you know For no i'm not But that early human. He's mushrooms and it actually helped develop the human. The human brain function like helped move develop it actually no prime example of Psychedelics being introduced Is the show evil Where where he actually. I love mushrooms. Yeah actually talked to god or awareness. How about this for a drug. Actually ribot mcclair. Cassie right. I see ryan nucleic acids like that. No we couldn't get around without our dna we would be Suicide and say allah. But i thought that aside and brought sorry. I know something won't agree about him. I wanna talk more about. He doesn't care about them. I liked it. They're cooler chocolate. Honey yeah yeah wanna talk about caved on thing for thirty five thousand right. Yeah wasn't in the end. You know our species homo sapiens sapiens. The chrome engines culturally. We could interbred with manda tells and that was speculation for a while. it was fantastic. But it's it's been supported by fossil evidence we could have offspring are time interbred with an and it's also we were closer than people originally thought you know. So james and i have to point something percent neanderthal in our make our dna. I probably have a little more of that. You're your longer than mine every no you got the same got. He looks like he could be good. Climbing bamboo shoot or three she in the thumbs has gone through you're short stubby thumbs. Whatever what really driver wrench. I can make it how he makes. It look like he doesn't have we go and you could just hold it down okay under More than most people could. Well actually i can do it too. We're not dissimilar james. He's just noticed this before. Mine and seniors are about six or seven inches long leaving out. The phones a strange hand it a- got wonderman hand. You know if you left the prince motor southern hardened do people. It'd be thinking that aliens among us. You know you are on a serious sugar high. I'm saying well we've. We've almost almost killed a home bag or she nugget but yeah so we're not we're this is offering this speculation. We're beginning rooms man interesting shoe of all we don't detroit gave away. I yeah i don't either i can't sleep but i've never done shrooms. Thanks anyway. I think that's a little out there. I've been offered all kinds of when i was younger. Everybody second keep me awake. James could fall asleep anywhere. And i can't sleep all hot mess people on the couch. Yeah i yeah. I i get an email you and ask the number or something you know when you do your policy comedy set. Oh no never mind. You're doing it beautiful you know. Yeah we do program. Every time earlier this year. And i i mean by earlier i mean february later. In february we appeared so in rochester new york as the the winter fast. Best man We we had this. Oh yeah we touched on the serious stuff but we also have like spontaneous human combustion laughing at the at the end of the lecture. I had the microphone. I said now you notice we. We are every lecture is different and the we present and we're funny funny guys. Next time we might not be funny. We we might be bad and you'll leave the auditorium saying those guys were sad. That was really sad. And i didn't know what a latin i would get wish that we might be this really sad. I don't know sad. There's nothing to be sad about. It's all we're gonna talk about. Yeah we're not all you on ever now. I'm really sad. I your trash you listening because you're polite. You'll be said to put connecticut. It's hard for by contagious. Actually this is actually a demon Tro tip or Investigators job there's one thing that always complain about after an investigation and that's You know getting tired. I forget what they call paranormal tiredness or someplace. Where are you get to withdraw royals after investigating you tell people and this is actually give the clients clients to as well especially if they're feel like they're physically being affected by this stuff but after gatien eat chocolate it helps you endorphin levels and you won't be but seriously like there's so many times i what i've given Like that a client were fellow. Team members would be Severely like in drought because of how exhausting investigation was or or a client will be exhausted from If they were being affected and give them chocolate actually Does create odd different in in your mentality the endorphin. Yeah so you get a chemical so parallel investigators spring chocolate with your not just uk to meter whatever chocolate. I i hate chocolate jane. Okay well white. Chocolate was four dollars and sixty nine cents before tax and we've pretty much demolished like little children on her sugar high it. It's a ho. Hey yeah definitely does well. Dame's up You're feeding him sweeping. They'll probably a about this. I doubt that. I am somehow doubt. I've seen you sleep in some very unusual places like like talking and i immediately. There's no response james asleep. I don't even know how you do that to me. I guess yeah was it called We were in gettysburg car. And i did get his. No we did as at the lookout house. Owned by pan. Steve barry yeah and We were. We were invited to stay the night thankful to them. 'cause there's a bed and breakfast as well and they have this supposed haunted doll the whole conversation but They had is supposed onto doll wonders. And you know. I don't i don't necessarily like like trump my chest out but i like to experiment. You know if you say you have often dow okay. Let's let's let's let's check it out. So of course james Not being me yeah. I slept with the haunted doll in the same bed. Huddled with it i call i saw instantaneously opening in the morning there would be a magical chain and there would be a real person next to you really must see even with the hunt. Supposed of dollar estimate passed out like no. Yeah like give me my haunted doll. I'm going nine. I raggi adult to though so do you believe okay. Do you believe that spirits can hot odds objects like that like dolls and we're gonna find out whatever sleep i i think The word is you in misunderstood so many forms of cash if you look at the etymology of the word on You know the possess because they usually. It's it's usually the individual haunted That's one thing happens haunting. Can't happen to us as a catalyst or dad re-involved so and item can have some influence on it like let's say if A little girl Perished and she was very attached to those doll and she put so much emotion so much love into it. Oh toy story for forty Four could've been a haunted object right But in the same token if a little girl perished and there was so much motion so much bigger involved in this item that there could be a possibility that this item could have some Resonance of that little girl navy people would experience a little girl's spirit of or some kind of Emotion certain things that could occur well with attach the item being connected to this person. And of course there's talks about things being Through ritual put into the to these items of course You know binding ritual but And some forms that ritual that have to be concurrently done over and over again. A binding is only as good as as done and of course as and handling the item. So i don't. I'm always on the sensible on tonight. I handled a bunch. I've handled a bunch of them. But i i've never i respect okay. There's something evil or something suppressive or trust in here. I've always not always. I should say but more now having a head on my shoulders and understanding now That there is a battery like There we're the battery and the item has the story. Sometimes that story can kind of man assess and it's possible so i don't really know like i to me items are very difficult. I know people that collect them. My you know. John young twenty spero's A great guy as well Currently runs the war museum 'cause he's the son-in-law lorraine warren but you know i've been i've been to the war museum you know i did a blessing over blessing over people for Warner brothers Animal comes home. I was part of their premier. And i was able to bless influencers. That were able becomes the the museum to museum before. But i've never ever been museum. It's felt like i was in danger. Were felt like. I had some sort of oppressive message demonic entity attached to it. So like i don't know i. I'm on the fence about it. Like i think it's a possibility. There could be some important points when it comes but as far as like Like an item being. That's not items only through recycle consistent us And manipulated living breathing. How about you car. Well this chapter in a book. Cold shirelles even allergy and books. It's parts one two of the chapter. Beware those vital cocker. Maybe i'd read the whole chapter here Well i should know. Because i wrote the book was rock. That's my book and lana wrong with me. And she wrote. I will be wear those. What chapter she was those dolls. Par to those buying every chapter and it talks about how these things on a physical physical images of people usually. That's dollar or all But but i talk about clown dolls people really by those. Some people are scared of clowns. People are scared of dolls. You combine the two four force And Yeah so i think it is association. Oh yeah i. I don't know if the spirit can actually But i know. Somebody's a gifted or experienced saitama three man. You know can sensitive to vibrations logic. They might pick on memories from that. Yeah definitely some principles. We don't understand that right so you're not. I mean if you to really like like dogs you cannot help in view that with with personality. You can't help but see it as something here with the mind and then in some form you know everybody's off. The dow is new age thing. But in reality you know actually. We're trying to talk about our podcast earlier as well as you know we have two dollars. That's so and one of the oldest forms where you don't even hurt you. This for us much is the word acid you you know after gene i idealogical has a long time in one of the most new. Jeez people don't realize is the food without you know so so i took a two. Yeah but yeah that's really imbuing personality infusing it with personality because it's gonna take on the presence of that it'd be busted and booted affected. They are not and so much you believe in them. I yeah. I think there's an is as close to right facts Go ahead you going to say. There's a big market out there where people are buying You know quite a bit of money. They're putting out for these haunted doll's everywhere. Yeah they're everywhere. There's a lot of people selling them. And there's a place that i've investigated many times mineral wells and Tech yeah that haunted hill house and she has haunted supposedly haunted doll's everywhere. I've never felt anything hunted for many of them that the place has some haunting but the dolls which i hated the child. I didn't really care for also. But i didn't. I didn't feel anything coming from any of the doll nights out and held it every one of them trying to because she spent a lot of money on these people are making a lot of money. Selling these haunted objects. I just basically telling stories. It's a story you know. There's there's item that you know this little girl died. Now she inhabits this doll because she was so attached to. It's an intriguing story that captivates people and people are willing to spend big bucks on that. Like like i said you can go on ebay. There's different boxes in haunted dogs. A oh my god. Like god but people love that stuff. People love to physical representation of a story. James annabel dough which is supposed to be haunted. How the war. I suppose some they got this this hype and hoopla about whereas you know do not open ended the day positive positively. Not on and yes. There's bed lorraine worley dollars. In lorraine holding the doll and silent. Because i guess you as impunity to think learning that and james how would you feel if some cloud your wars copies ian wright special permission to be there or something and somebody opens that cabinet over the glass case and tosses this harvest. Raggedy ann doll. How would you feel you say. Oh well i tried. I'd probably person catchy. 'cause i'm a moron and I think it has to come. I think has to come down to your intention. I would. I would not be disrespectful. And just throw the doll to the ground. Say like i would probably just be respectful. I probably wouldn't like start screaming. I i i'd go. I think it's how you respect these items. If there is a demonic for in inhibiting are inhabiting And adult that of course in the same retrospectively we deal with cage that if somebody's being influenced under you come in with the respect They're a dissertation of being negative provocative and provoke in this thing but Yeah definitely definitely respectful. But i wanted throw down. But she'll be like oh god. Why did this person just do. Yeah i wouldn't anywhere. Somebody talked me annabelle. You know. I come on. Don't be a quantum slept with a sports dog. Yeah a dog. She's now having his haunted trial. I'm just saying creepy. James still my next one is going to be called me. Not caleb damian. Yeah oh hunt. Hunting james doll. Somebody did me the nfl. I mean i. I wouldn't purposely removing just the challenges of your real silly but i would But suppose i back into a fire hydrant done. I'm gonna say it was a doll me But then again sports that fire hydrant comes ten years later. Yeah you know. The famous story sprained an ankle with the next ten years. You know like oh it on from that you know One of the big famous stories of was voices. It's more little. Oh sorry talk you hear us. Yes we all yours because what we're speaking of here. Yep can you hear us all right. Yeah so okay. What i was saying now is like. There's this famous story of motorcycle. Driver Basically provoking doll and Being more ballots museum and they get in a motorcycle crash and of course everybody says oh was because he is way he treated in. They'll but everybody forgets within the confines that story and eye-witnesses that scene is most likely driver was he was actually driving erratically and no accident. So was an animal hint driving erratically. Like a fool that made poorly knicks. I'll start horrible. You know he's he's probably gonna. You've probably other trip that night driving. Yeah he he's in y- know on an ego trip. Yeah oh wow. That's how that's how he's around stuff like that. Just go though you know any. I mean a little bit of bad luck that can be tied to them as to whether or not there's actual explanation for us Well that's what they say is every myth and folk has the truth to it. You know some basis in reality. Yeah which would bring it to the contrary talk about that. You know a lot of myths grow up around the country house in arizona that you know because of the rita's fire. Yep and carl's knows all about that 'cause you first investigator in their nineteen seventy with his brother keith. And on a case manager donal donnelly. Donna donna yeah. That's not what i saw in the movie though. Oh my sleeve. And all that his cat does. Joe did a jump up. But yeah the conjuring house here. My brother keep an with the first investigators with Were then members of a team basis rhode island college in providence and our team in a nutshell contacted by this is caroline parents and Our team brought in lorraine warrant and lowering war. We'll just call them to solve them and benefit from their vast experience and they volunteer to come. They ended up taking the case out from under us but They advise the parent family on the house. Farmhouse did they could help unless they solo investigators there because that's actually how that case started you know. The argued called pyro. Parapsychology investigatory and research organization rhode island college. And that's always the country house. Got his It was haunted. Yes and deal is but We were the ones who called in. Lorraine warren but it's not ours depicted in the movie of course but the movie is entertaining the germ of truth in it. The house is actually built in seventeen. Thirty six so that a lot of a lot of time to absorb memories through some principles know. I'm they're not infrequently. I'm friendly with the new owners. In fact there was an episode of ghost. Adventures was the halloween. Two thousand nineteen Halloween special ghost adventures. And i was invited to participate in. That night became much more than i expected. I would be so. That's that's available to watch and premise of that investigation. Wants the ghost. Adventures team was trying to replicate our original investigation of nineteen seventy three and they did get results and we all back then. This is warren she. She denied that there were any other. Paranormal investigators there. She said they were the only ones that that was the release of the movie And mrs warren also says that movie is as true to lie as any movie can be categorically deny any other investigators. They're back yet. There was a well circulated picture Myself with donna. And mrs warren lorraine warren next to us and in the front is caroline karen guiding the to their first tour of the conjuring house in harrisville top farmhouse. So certainly illustrates that. I was there at the time and that pitcher could actually be viewed. That's talked about our podcast again. But we just did a recent special with Carl myself. And ki ki my brother and his twin brother. Nfl human allergists as well and Absolute was for people that are interested in seeing that picture because it is part of it. it was called conjuring conjuring the truth. So if you're interested in seeing only your true. Yeah what occurred in august and september nineteen seventy-three accounts given by karl too far too. Because you know you can always talk about those experiences you know. There's a lot of myth and most of what you hear about. The country house is bit. But i'll qualified that by saying you a haunted house. And people do get manifestations that people get same kind of phenomena now that argument experience the ninety seventy three. Same kind of things happen. They're with different owners. Yeah i don't. I don't think it would be enough to drive somebody on house but no everyone. Accordion gen heinsohn. I acquired that house and moved in there. They they did feel like. I don't know if this is too much for their son. Their teenage tyler Had to say away from for two weeks because he saw this black shadowy thing move about the huddle room. And that's just what i saw on. Nineteen seventy my first time to august. Nineteen seventy three but again the moore's students being and Took the case away from us. Actually because i was on the phone with carola current daily. And then i didn't hear from her for a couple of weeks after the war did the had a meeting with the well. Either they resolve the case there. All right or Or is getting really intense but then carolyn curry Rogers white homeowners at the time she called me and she apologized for having dropped out of our communication. She told me that. The war's informed her and her husband is. They could be no help. They were the only parent there tend to be so investigators. We were just a bunch of college kids that we couldn't do any good Something we lost their kid but just you know we had already investigated there a few times. There's just as well You know really what's going to happen. What did it culminated in seance performed in the house with lorraine warren frozen and caroline parens lady. She was really totally taken over during that same. I thought it was an ill advised operation to do that. I wasn't there for it. But they have somebody film documented the crease present and a psychic media and rain the net so and carolyn force and roger. Came home from work the trucker. He came home from work. She's all these people in the southeast. Well we let it go to see what happens and during that sounds caroline parents started who's portrayed in the movie kondratiev roger art She starts muttering in Some kind of incomprehensible language and dialect and then her chair will. She was flung oliver chair. She was about twelve feet away into the next room and Bill thought she was dead on the floor and that was that was the say that it was conducted on october thirtieth nineteen seventy-three and that house in harris own island so they got results. It's not what they planned on and well. It didn't end well the associated with the parents and the lone house and orange serrano investigators unfortunately and went over to roger came to the aid of his wife. Ed tried to block his way and said you must never touch the possessed. So roger hold off and sophomores and order them all out of the house that was the end of their association with the current parents in the war so it didn't end like it did in the movie but still fascinating and roger didn't want anything to do with our normal teams after that pros for some time but that was actually what what transpired in the house and i think the truth is just as fascinating any fiction. They can feel that. I mean to have a grown woman flung out of her chair run into the next room during the sand and having end acrimoniously between the parents of the war. But i think that's. I think they should've kept the truth to that script. It was the thing that they couldn't because it didn't portrayal the warriors and the totally favorable life although they were trying to do some good there but the warriors were performing an intervention. Not scientific investigation as our team was me. I don't know how science we could achieve. We were trying to be methodical. And scientific documentary. All they trying to document case then it'll range over loss on that they would have been differently so they had nurse. We hadn't pulled them in. My call dropped that. What's interesting is it still shows me The rift radio network host called in but they dropped my call. And i had to call in on my own cell phone Oh do you want me to go again. The left so but oh. I've been here for a little bit. I would just say corky weird things that happen when we're on this show 'cause it's still lewd on on. What would it came back on you were talking about adding lorraine and i know that story and how it was pretty much falsified a lot of what they did. They were showing more than they were. Investigators for your answers to like the recognition. And i think it was right when they came to the house in nineteen seventy three. I think there were movie monday then. Yeah that makes sense warns we actually contacted was producer through the country. Yeah that's so far off of what really happened from. I've heard you know in read a lot about it and that was just so far off. It's an interesting movie as you said that. I'd like to have more of a documentary type when she said yeah. That would be awesome. Well people have done independent shows chronicling. Yeah after watch him. We're going down to about room users. Eleven minutes left. And i don't want to run out of time because i love talk. You know that already walked me to. Yeah i mean yeah. I want to make sure that you can. They can reach out to you. Just saw your shoutouts right here. You want to give him the address. Sure yes so we have. We have a very easy way of Except not so you don't have to understand the old way of so the we of course. Yeah we we. Ours is some what But our our website address is w. w. dot demon -nology doe or d. m. o. l. o. y. Just the old the old now all the pill which is still very fascinating. Even though we've had it for months now fascinating actually got allergies outgrew. I wouldn't even try. I would've thought it was paid. James over demon so that way to us or jodi -nology on facebook but if you go to our website demaj dot or it will link to carl's personal website my personal website. It will lead us to are doing facebook. If you're interested in purchasing carl's book Demon allergy handbook showroom human allergy to saddam. By that on the website as well. We've stam zahn so that is really the best way to you. There find us Seek consensus contribute an article looking at your story personal and of course Also book us for a radio show or a lecture Which we very useful be and being developed or website again that's you can put the. Www dot diva -nology or some sandra knowledge and then of cour- johnston facebook. And i'm not on facebook. Thank god and But you could also go to instagram matt damon and find out that way as well. We're we're on you to. We have our own podcast. We try to go on every thursday but we have been Do to prop personal busy live and force busy within constitutions and all that stuff so But you can also watch. Reruns are all that shows you the through our website or on youtube by buell them now e. m. and o. l. o. g. i. e. the tricky part starts off with a ends with donna. I sounds so sound. So good due date or knowledge even for trio's dollars at least which we do have It's not just carl. I part of knowledge you know we do have a historian. Slash manager her. Name's elise gio marco. Carlson she's the president of the johnston historical society She is a valuable member of says. Well and has the great work for our organization and of course calling her one panorama paranormal And they handle more of the other cases outside of the relative analogy script allergy. Are you following or some something Something really wax like even season starts fine line. Things that are on shouldn't be there you know mystery and history that's That's what we handle with duo dame. I mean alabama paranormal. You'll see a picture of at least in some great. That's great job but you'll both be in texas next year if everything goes away. It's plan right. Well we we we we were. There was some things but we Have some conversation. There is good chance. We'll be doused dallas This upcoming year probably yeah into shouldn't county on whether some nice back out there and of course he usually lloyd's and of course you kirby been mostly you're there as well but it's been so long since i've seen you guys. I know i know. I want i want to go to that is natalie is become. I've become closer with natalie. And she's the one. I think putting on the whole thing. So yeah she's an amazing investigator just came out of nowhere and burst onto the scene. And just take over everything. And i love that. That's what feel they come out of the woodworks. Yeah yeah oh there you know how that would be great. That would be dr. They're they're less than every i. I picked him up at the airport and then made him drive everywhere else. I i guess you just did i. I very greatly appreciate take me up in dallas and fort worth whatever places called I will i will have to. When you know as the same way. I've been i was texas three times before that and of course carlton thing is that i never been to texas. We're gonna. We're gonna have to do a bird introduction mr carl. How he wasn't waterberg. Or what the hell is there. I only go whatever her wherever. Yeah i don't eat. Meat is okay though law. French fries delicious. And they're not you know there's no there is no but there ryan but i'm kinda adam come on now was a free at a potatoes vegetable. You need your vegetables scorpius dream yeah and you and you could get those awesome bonds with the tomato almost making even though you know what would be called a veggie burger. I had that awesome bun with the tomato and lettuce and the onion. There was just known me. I'm okay with that listen. I don't. I don't judge people for what they eat. All right i'm gonna put this on the air Houses larson If she listened she likes to listen. I think she's out. You actually had the larsen other laws. Yes okay listening. But so i'm gonna say this and thought momma sheila mama sis Why haven't you mailed me out. What burger because heather larson mail out some tamales from texas and she sends them to me you. That'd be one. Can you imagine whatever would taste like by the time it gets you. Do you want to do take out with burger. Have you lost your mind. You crazy mad. You donate your organ donors. I'm not like has than i. You wanna whatever you come and see me. That's the way this bitch. that's what i'm talking about. I know what i'm saying. I'm not mailing you anything you gotta water one. Do you better have a burger buffet. Ready for me to pick you up at the airport gate. Because i'll do it if i have to. 'cause i'm coming you guys that alone i totally gonna have you picked up there. I'm carlene bull for us to come pick up up the phone day. We're signed back up and like on the drive us when the sport. Yeah i'll be. I'll be like i'm a little bit late. I had to go to water burgers. You yeah what did you say carl. He's sitting here so good so good. He's chanting fitting on. What in hall of what burger know. That's different ratio. My god he's doing it he's wanting her. You are a whatever hor that's what you are bluesy turned me. The name is aboard. A james would piss him out for freaking water burger. That's what i'm talking about. And i have one right here in town. Don't i'm never there me. Love me love you long time that you get you know whatever upbringing within the problem. I'll pick you up. Bring it with me. And then i'll hand over the driving to you. Well yeah. I think that sounds like a great time to me. I'll have a one not or i'll have another burger. I wish on the food is we're just doing a commercial burgers that's higher games to do. A whatever commerciality will we have to end about. However we can come on game while i use your phone. That's all i remember is mark set Before i think before. I went to that event And you pick me up. I think mark had created A banner saying bill. We're water for james unidos on his way clues. Now we're okay. We're gonna countdown to like forty seconds. I wanna thank you. Both you amazing Love the chatter between you. Both just like you're off air. We're talking to each other. It's so funny well. This is a common paranormal. Oh yes he does not need to be grivas. Just demon dollars grim. Then you need to be but we're not really know you were. You were perfect. And i'll be there for you if you need me to pick you up you. Just tell me. Because i'm going to that event anyway so i'll yeah no problem. Thank you both for being on the show. 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Show 44 "Bob Worley...exposed"

Standup Comedy "Your Host and MC"

42:56 min | 4 months ago

Show 44 "Bob Worley...exposed"

"This is another episode of standup comedy. Your host and emcee celebrating forty plus years on the fringe of show business stories interviews and comedy sets from the famous and not so famous. Here's your host and emcee scott at words. Hey and welcome to this week's show man. Oh man. I'm so excited. We have a terrific interview and comedy set coming up from not only one of the funniest comics the eighties and nineties a guy that participated in our tv shows laps in the park special concerts. He's done it all with lamps and limited and we're happy to have him here and i gotta tell you he's more than a comic. He's a friend ladies and gentlemen. Let's welcome bob worley. You got a lot of people. This is jammed for you bob. They're so happy to have you here. We've been waiting several months to try to get together and get this interview. Dan and we're so excited to get you on the phone. How are you buddy packing kidney stones. That fact you'll do anything for a little light. Entertainment passing kidney stones played comedy. I gotta say it takes awhile to get that prop out Yeah ladies and gentleman hold on. Don't don't that well that's true so For the listening audience going back to well. We're going to go through some of the history but Bob has been one of the regular acts. You've heard on the podcast over the last several months. He's a very funny comic and good friend He lives down in pasadena. California south pasadena. Let's be correct. Yes in the los angeles area for those who outside of california we have been friends and shares of the comedy history for a long time Let's kind of give them a little background. How did you get into comedy. I mean i know you're really funny guy but it must have started in school or something. I figured out right away. I couldn't do anything else. I really cannot hold a regular job so comedy. Measure last choice eilat pregnant. god said. Look no matter what you do around here. We're not gonna fire you. And i didn't know what they were talking about. I'm not trying to get fired so you have a great personality in a good sense of humor. Did that. Come up early with your family. I think so for me. It was a A way to survive. And i kind of grew up in a rough neighborhood so i if you walk cracking. Everybody survived because nobody wants to beat up like the recharge kid will. Where where did you grow up. I grew up in oakland california which is about thirty miles east of here and in kind of a rough neighborhood at the time to route neighborhood. I grow guy's name angel in tutte tutte of heard of him. So so your sense of humor developed itself early. When did you actually hit the stage for the first time harley under seventy group i would say imprompt group but it was really kick. It came up with these little of and then we went out to la like the comedy store and ostos comedy cave and did that kind of stuff. You know we bombed everywhere back. Well that's how you get started but you didn't do it as a solo act. You did it as part of a group. I don't think about you. Yeah yeah the guys kinda you know after a while. They say we're not gonna do this anymore. So much of a hassle. So i said well i'm going to keep doing it but i wanted to skip by myself so i think even robert go with it goes. Hey did you. Were you not an escape route because you're talking to people that aren't there back what let's let's. Let's give a little basis. Was there a name to the skit group. We are called an sort of an act sort of all that that kind of has a comedic tone to it in hind will give you the initial stage experience. Oh so that must have helped you when you started going solo. Yeah two different. It's a different scale. So i had to learn that over time and you know i i i like i said i bombed everywhere but you know really stupid so i could see doing kind of like food so i'm going to go on. Well i think. I think you had a lot of success. I know that you were as i alluded to in the intro. Not only were you a regular act. starting off in the eighties working for me and laugh unlimited but You quickly became a headliner. And then Were right through the heyday of the club. So you got involved in the concert in the parks. Tv shows so. I mean in my mind. You are very successful comic. But let's let the audience know. When did you first get to laughs and limited. And how did that happen you remember. Oh yeah yeah. I actually remember that because i think it was eighty two. Maybe and the only reason we we went there. We used to go to san francisco tonight Because we could do the open mic nights there and just hit a bunch of them. Just take time on stage and on the way back. A friend had to showcase that. Your plays toll berman right. Yeah yeah so. I was with him and another guy and Peter golfie and And we were stopping by and decrease stock. Was there so we had worked together before and he goes. Oh hey up. I know bob. Why don't you give them some stage times. I'll give up ten minutes of my tho great scott for audience. Great scott was one of our regular headlining magicians. He's been mentioned a couple times he hasn't been on the show because it's tough to Show magic on a podcast but great scott was definitely a regular in all of my clubs over a couple of decades very talented magician. But i did. I don't have the memory you have. I didn't know that he gave up time. So that you can get on stage pretty impressive and pretty nice of you to let you. You weren't there. I think that's why it happened. That what happened. Bob with daddy and i remember was the. I didn't know yet. 'cause behind the bar that night and then about a few days later i got a phone call from you and the first thing you said not even hello would blow. Everybody appeared because they seem to love. That was my intro to you. Acquired professional wasn't i. I said no not everybody four well so you came up. You did a unscheduled showcase. Thanks to Great scott the magician. And then bob and mac and everybody enjoyed your little guests at so much. They overloaded me with information so much so that i called you in accused of sexual treat wearing braces at the time. Well the guys were all. They were all walking funny for a while. But i'm bob. How'd you anything for work. Well i think it worked out well for laughs now. Your first paid gigi. Must've been an opening act. No i came in at the feature gone pace myself. And dave stockton. Wow good shot and worked with that guy. Yeah yeah the the ventriloquist figure that Moved on its own was very what jerk rate with a shop. What an apple. The chuck was always a little rough when it came to relationships. But i think a lot of intro figures have that problem that's Pretty impressive to come in as a feature acta first time so the Word on your set must've been excellent. You must have been for somebody. Somebody dropped out you. Hey call this show. So that started. Our relationship is comedy club comic but we quickly became friends. Because i know that you not only work guy every year after that for many many years but you were soon part of the laughs family where you were asked getting involved in bowling night. Some of the other fun things around the best thing about the onto your club is that that you feel like you're going up to see friends wasn't how i gotta go up there and do you know a week of hell somewhere. It all good to see some friends you know and i knew it's going to be a fun week and you know you've pretty much. Let me do almost anything you know we. We even brought The famous elvis ghost in fine. And that's that's what made a fun to work as just like guide to comedy and half. I liked your club and it's like a bunch of friends running the club doing right and just to shows up right and you guys had fun with it. That makes yeah and and it's been mentioned a couple times and earlier. Podcast that i think part of our success was that it was other comics. Like dave and bob sag at the kind of helpless lay out the groundwork for how to treat comics. And if you treat the entertainers with respect and civility fan. Well i just meant that i. I'm happy and appreciative. That you felt comfortable and thought you were going to work with friends as opposed to just another road gig well. I didn't think that. I mean. I knew that i felt that your staff everybody super nice and you know again. They're like your friends. You're always happy to them. They seem happy to see you. And now you end up working Several weeks every year for a number of years. But you've played clubs all over the west coast didn't you. Yeah pretty much. All of the country all from coast to coast you. Were doing roadwork. Yeah you know the the courtemanche with me. I never asked about money. They would just go. You wanna work there. I said sure and bernie up. What are we going to pay you though. I don't know geez we should tell everybody. Bernie's your lovely wife who is a dear dear friend in and you are very lucky to marry but it is funny that she was a quick to point out that. It's nice to know what you're getting paid or you know. You don't want to run to deal with quibbling over money paying what you know that kind of brings back to comedy as an art form versus a business for it is a business and the money is important but there's a certain segment of the entertainers that it was the art form. That was actually more important than the business. Some it's the other way around and obviously you just really enjoyed getting on stage and getting in front of audiences. Now you did really well at laughs where you pretty well received all over the country on certain night. You did really well on sundays under dark night. I was her. Now you know there's a. I worked amp rawlinson Curve line with jack gallagher. A at three guy. Great guy really super funny and The first night. I was going up before i noticed o. r. material covering same subject matters. I mean are actually different. So i thought well i'll just go back and do some of the old stuff. I won't step on his toes and the next night. I ate it so bad that people were like. Oh my god what happened to be on drugs. But it's one of those nights that the more you bomb the more people start the night like you were saigon. It's like oh yeah you know like that one. Here's you're not gonna like. Yeah it's sometimes it's a competition between the Entertainer in the audience. You know hopefully you can turn them around. I've seen a few acts that so bad. They got good. You know what. I mean if you and your and a little As is a comic onstage. Not a straight manala gist. You have a lot of facial expressions on your very animated in your comedy even though it's based on real life. It is almost cartoonish or exaggerating. I used to love the the bid about the pigeons and The bid about your brother. You know Freely the first night. I couldn't do anything wrong. you know. It's like walking water. It's going to be great and then the next night like oh this is going to be held and that is kind of the the way. Entertainment is a whole. I mean i. It's much harder for a standup comic alone on stage than it might be for a band or a singer. If you're you know you're always going to have a good night in a bad night. And what makes a professional entertainer is the one that plugs forward in does time pretty much no matter what Iraq recently told a story that bill maher was halfway through is set in literally got booed off stage in he gave up in just walked off stage. And so i i did the right thing and fired his ass but the most comics when they're having a bad set turn it around it was a great analogy. Johnny carson would be doing his monologue in every night they would have different jokes that were submitted or or written by his writers forum but if things started going bad he made that was funny. Yeah yeah but then again he wasn't gonna be up for forty five minutes okay johnny carson and go lets sort of commercial will be back. That's true that's china. He had a couple outs. That you wouldn't have had. But i gotta say bob although i did find that when i go to commercial well i will say that for for your history and stand up comedy if you're pinpointing one night one bad show with jack. Aller danny half bad. I mean i always like to say. I would consider at me okay. Well we've found you more than okay and luckily we got a lot of it on tape and we've had a chance to share it with the podcast audience and we'll have another set from you at the end of this interview. But what were that. I mentioned the pigeons and and your brother was were there and you used to have a great bit about your wife when she was pregnant and having your first kid and a mix of done that but you kind of took it to the absurdity level and far. No no actually. I always thought that was one of your Funniest bits but what. What was the type of comedy or the bits that you do or remember that you really enjoyed or riffing 's ripping apart but i like the like you said the baby stuff and a bunch of i soaring a little bit too far like you described earlier being cartoons and that was thing i think if the audience kind of bought into what i was doing it was going to be a fun night. But if they weren't dead that is that they you know is only true for some people you know were there. Were there were a couple of comics at took it even farther amazing. Jonathan was an example of a very cartoony type of act but he would have nights where the audience just wasn't willing to go with them on the ride right and not. That happened to me very few times. That most of the time. I seem very harmless. And you know they kind of okay. Everybody thought well you're right. You know you're a columnist. So that i kind of go down and start getting a little gonna weird stuff and they would buy into it most of the time. I think they realized i was just kidding around. Hopefully they weren't there. I love one facing albuquerque. And i can't believe that you have kids. She she thought you're you're being serious money with you. Need help but she was. Obviously she enjoyed the show so well what out by. Yeah well one of the things. Think that i miss about owning the club and stand up comedy was unlike other entertainment venues when you go to a comedy club. You know it's funny. It's gotta be funny and you may not appreciate every bit or every comic but you're there to have a good time you've invested evening. You paid your twenty bucks. You wanna have a good time and so you couldn't have a better platform to work from. And so then just up to the comic to bring a man through relatable material or whatever and take them on the journey. But i think that Interesting and you were very very good at it now. You work for me for many years. What are some of the Stories are situations That happened at laughs. That stand out to you g. I worked at all three or cloud of each different from the other so obviously the back must be out the alley. One fire right. I think like you said earlier tonight. That i i was with jimmy burns and john yet and we got to go back out. Let us screw around. And we went back into the the rat. Pack tour oh. Yeah i remember that that was funny. Yeah yeah that'd be 'cause i think he martin got sick. Billion for the ailing dean. Martin would relate elvis presley doing that. So i wouldn't find him but we just could do that and just have fun with it and you know and all the night cooked coupe and his staff was always fun. I mean like. I said it was a lot of fun working. Everybody was super nice. And you always have to show up right. There's always somebody that would build the show it would build. You know like some guys. I work at one club and goes boy man. It's coming up before yet. He's got are really. Make your work. Like i said why. Why do you want me to work. Don't we wanted to be a good show. We wanted to build and family. I never understood. That's like putting somebody. That's really filthy in front of a clean act. You're right you're making it extra difficult. And that's the point is you're not just making it difficult for the entertainer but you're gonna ruin the flow even for the audience and that's fine but can we bring in a local guy. Go up in between her. Because i i knew like a sacrifice of. It's like a pallet cleanser. Because i knew this guy was kinda filthy and dirty. That i i won't be able to fall. You know 'cause now the audience is going to be thinking way another good example. That and this guy was actually a brilliant comic. I had to follow robert schimmel month. Schimmel you worked for me a lot. He was fantastic and again. Nice guy and just one of the best comics out there. But i did my letterman showcase. After him and i thought that he would do You know an act that he could do on tv but nope not schimmel even went for and remember got up walked the hey did you see my thing. I unfortunately yet. Well we should point out to the podcast listeners. That bob is not one of mar squeaky clean comics. But you always worked relatively clean and there weren't a lot of f. bombs or anything unnecessary staff were that you might get from certain entertainers I always set the audience. Fill in the blank i would right and i think that also made you one of the reasons why you were so successful in did so much work for us. I mean how. Many acts could not only succeed at the club level but then be featured on Our laughs in the park crowd which was families and then the tv shows which has to be pc clean. So yeah there was a few acts out there. like steve brunner that are just squeaky squeaky clean. But you certainly fell into the range On the cleaner side above some of those other funny acts but just go in a different direction. so you did some of the After show stuff you remember going bowling with everybody yeah. I think that was for a long time. That was a regular thing. I think when you stop doing it. I was disappointed when i go bowling the night anymore. We have some great video of you bowling with dave. Yeah you guys went out together with us one night and got video of you and David kuei out bowling with the staff members. Yeah i sort of had t shirts made up talking together and then just and then went out and joined the league done. It could've done it because nobody needs There you go well we. We had a lot of fun and we were able like. I said our business relationship turned into quite a friendship. I know your wife and family very well. I've known your kids since they were born in chance to go to a lotta dinners and other functions so i do appreciate that aspect of our relationship. So thank you for that. Your walk came across pictures of you. Playing with my kids are look like they're attacking you but i'm sure play. Well i love Getting down at kid level and being one of the kids is still a problem. Carport that point. Well you have everything. I want out to have you on this. Little thing I you probably don't remember when my dad passed away You've got sent me some money. 'cause you knew that i would be cancelling gigs diploma through. And i know i. I don't know if i ever thanks for that. But i want to thank you for that. Now while you know eight or nine people are listening so they can hear that you know you have a heart of gold and i really meant locking because nobody else really reach out. Maybe one other club reached out. But but that always walking. And i really appreciate it. That you're very well But you know that's what friends do when you're going through a difficult time in fact we were just talking. My father just passed away a few weeks ago. When you're one of the first people to reach out and that's what friendships all about so It was an honor. And i'm very welcome. I was happy to help during a difficult time. So yeah i think a lot of people find Find it surprising. I have a heart. Yeah i'll tell you one thing. I do remember one too i. I don't know if you recall. But i got really sick when i was up the house that they were carpet on the walls and you came over and i couldn't get out of bed. I was so sick for you. Freak out just do the emergency room. And i'm all talk then. Yeah it was really bad so The documents well. I don't know what's going on. You know we'd better keep him overnight and you just looked at him go. he's gotta shoulder tonight. Can you just give them something this so much for having a heart in the right place because you're worried about the people that were saying come see the show must go on go on. So so they they. They listen to me in in let you go aren't they. He said well we'll let him go along. You know. i go see the doctor right when i get home after. It was like a sunday night. Show redneck berman hospital. What a heartfelt moment for being with the club owner. Yeah yeah the show go on. That's a great story. And sadly i don't remember that satan just probably up against the wall and put the microphone tape to my desk starts off and we'll get you probably still killed by. You mean the fun. I'm glad we did exactly. The show must go on a great story. Thanks although you made pay it back later. We're going to have to work for me. Well you know there was other instances. Remember john fox he was not only Quite the road comic but quite a gambler. And i can't tell you how many times we had to Pay him early or advance. Money on gigs. Even victorious for that. Everybody when they got there. I have always advance so he can make yes. I remember working with at the birdcage. Crabbing somebody so much kirk. Hey that guy throwing up in the bathroom fill. That was john fox for you. he was. He's been discussed a few times and we've played his sets a few times he was. I would say the epitome of a road comic from the eighties drinking drugs Women you name it But he was also a very funny. Act that Do i only think i go too far. And that was that we work in houston together and it was his birthday and he wanted to do. And you wanna do some blow with me. I don't really do that. Oh hey wanna split at coa. Well at least they gave you an option. There's a story of gold. I told it once before. When i introduced one of his sets but one of my memories of john fox was he actually chased me around the green room with a spoon of coke and challenging me to do it with him. I never did. I'm not a drug guy but it's a very fierce memory of a guy that was a good comic and a good friend and it's been mentioned but sadly we lost him too many years ago but It may be good reason. He certainly did his share of physical body abuse. But we we've transgressed. Let's bring it back to comedy here. Well let's let's put a smile on that face and what were some of the acts that you got to work with. That really had an impression on you and it laughs or any other location I'm sure you've got a chance to work with some of your heroes. Yeah again maybe not. No i mean i. I like so many different people for different reasons. i it's hard that nobody really. I mean mostly with the friends that i traveled around with peter golf. He was one of them that you know. He always made me laugh valley. Funny guy. he's he's he's out there I always like ken. Guard is always fun to work with. I love islanders magic. Just as and had a great sense the owner cans on one of the previous. I got a chance to interview him and one of the previous podcasts. And a really good friend. Ken garbage. I know you mentioned you. Work with jack gallagher gallagher week. I had a tv self in the area day. Yeah he had a morning show for a while and We were able to bring comics onto the show. Yeah yeah. I think. I bombed on the show once so that was nice. I remember happy news. Show or length frames show or just Yeah strange but it was fun. Fun but yeah jackson. Great guy. And i don't know necessarily days guys like rob wyoming's did you get a chance. Robin dropped by the club twice. But you you got a chance to work with them in a few locations. I i wouldn't say work with them but i had to Go up from a couple of times that the emperor you know because i had i had a great spot. I'm going oh thirty. Oh this is time. But must meet. And then i see rob walkout on or no. No no no. I'm going to go and you know by an hour later. I it's so funny because the regular listening audience wouldn't know that is funny as robin was he really loved the stage and so whenever he was in town like the two times dropped and it lasts. I never had him as a paid act. He was already too big but he would stop in at clubs in no club. Owner is going to say no robin williams can't go on so he would always be allowed. They should neither always still always trained everything out of the room. Yeah nobody rift like robin williams and like you said the comics would all be excited to see this hero of stand up comedy and at the same time if you had to bathroom it it just like you said. He ate an audience up and But what a great way to go right up on stage with the broom and go. I told her folk song. There's nothing see probably got a big laugh air. Yeah my my own right but still it was fun And actually. When i was doing skip groups i ran into milan because he was always coming to work with comedy star players. Yeah yeah that. That's that's interesting. So i know that you did stand up comedy for a couple of decades in the last ten or fifteen years you were doing some more writing i am. You still do some writing. Don't you yeah. I wouldn't say i don't really ripe for say people come. I go if you do this or that hooker. So you fix things. I m my head i fix it whether they use it or not know who knows well but we we all know. Well we don't all know guy. So you're a fixer. Yeah i think no. But i mean there are guys in television and movies and even for stage that fix comedy that are maybe fixes the wrong word but you your sense of humor and the way you can twist something to make something. Funnier house to abandon asset. I know for example. Peter denna fume movies. And you've helped spruce up those scripts well my like. We've talked it over now. I won't say that he's and i rewrote it. We just thought it out. I kind of thing. Yeah but they little. That's a real value. Bob site that somebody to bounce ideas off of was a young. I did but it gives you a chance to contribute to the the comedy flow. So you you you kept busy and stop but we were talking about writing and you have a great friendship and have done a lot of work with fred. Wolf right Night we start out together. I used to give a ride to communist there all the time. i'd always pick him up. He wanted me to pick up on santa monica boulevard in santa monica boulevard. Now what am i gonna go to your house. They can't get. I don't people to get the wrong idea. Like i'm taking something else. So fred the streetwalker. Hey come by and pick me up. Well i know. I'm not saying i'm not saying he would but i'm not saying he was making ends. Meet some out exactly. We'll speaking of success fred's had a lot of success. Can you share with the audience. Some of what he's worth on. Well yeah i mean. He was one of the head writer. Saturday night live for a long time. He's drunk parents is actually On netflix right. Now it's a movie directed and co wrote with peter so he's got a lot of stuff out there and i thought you did some writing work with him In the last couple of decades well we we did. We did one thing. Actually we did it and forgot it. My bed and i called them about going. Isn't that that's my toy stuff you're doing and they realize. Oh that's where i've seen it. Would that appear in spayed movie Dickie dickie something dickie. I can remember that movie about a childhood star. Who up some idea. You're talking about david spade vehicle. Yeah yeah hey. You don't sound very happy about david. I'm not as big a david spade fan as some people are but the fact that fred wolf had a chance to Work with him on. A project is probably been rewarding to fred. I know is a successful writer in in Didn't he get into some directing too. Yeah yeah like i said. Drunk parent teacher directed that the How funny each directed that movie and we'll go to next directed back to the actress played by the actors for the characters. Fred wilpon peter golfie in the movie. Oh my he's probably should've changed the name of go with what you know. Well you know. The reason i brought that up was that we want to explain to the podcast audience that you were a really solid funny headlining road comic for a couple decades and then your kids came along and your wife has a very successful career as a loss assistant. I'm not sure the right term and you step back a little bit from show business and become a house dad and help raise your kids but you right. You didn't give up the industry because while doing that you were working with fred wolf and peter gawky in helping spirits up or fix. I don't know what you want to call it. Boost the comedy level in certain Scripts and writings. And i think that that has helped. Keep your creative mind going. Yeah with adam. I'm just used to plan by myself. Well okay you play with yourself a lot. Let's not go and it's a whole different story. It's pretty much worn out but anyways well dressed up during. I mean good to know that you took the podcast series. We'll tell you what bob we will be seeing each other soon. But it's been really Something i've been looking forward to because of Our history at laughs unlimited and because of our friendship. I've been looking forward to a chance to interview for the show. So thanks so much for taking time today in alpine point. No no no and as i've mentioned In several previous podcast and coming up right. Now in this podcast. I have a very funny comedy set from mr bob marley bob. Thanks so much for not only being a great entertainer for laughs all these years but for being a great friend and ladies and gentlemen one we showcase some of what. We've been talking about the very funny relatable in unbelievably nice guy. Here's some comedy from bob worley. Hey thank you guys go crowd. I think he deserves some good comedy. We have that coming up right now. Kind of a gentleman that we feel. We kind of discovered at least in northern california. Very funny guy. A good friend of ours. I think you'll enjoy from southern california. Let's have a big round of applause. Mr bob worley right here. Bob thank you so much. What do you guys want to do. on a here we go. Here's something we can talk about now. This is something that happened to me a couple of weeks ago now now this. I'm sure this has happened to at least a couple of guys here. Have you been driving along. you're just cruising along right and all of a sudden like a cat or dog or a rabbit darts out in front of your car. You just kind of go well. Jeez oh gosh no and then you feel terrible. Don't you're so right away think yourself. Maybe just kind of skimmed them. I'm sure review mir. he's okay. He's alright cramped under vendor. You know he'll be ok. He's he's all right off goal all. He ran off in the bush and he'll be fine. He's okay digging them out of the fender later. You'll be okay but it is. You're gonna go well legs don't you there you go. You're all right. And i don't think we skinned don't always fine going to get out of here. Heaven anybody here. That never happened to me. Either man the only reason. I brought all this up as a couple of weeks ago. Driving around town in hollywood i accidentally hit a pigeon and i can see you as a pretty broke up. Maybe a butcher that horrible now. Have you been driving around town. And there's like a little group of they're out in the middle of the street three something you don't know what right and it's like the closer you get the more you think to yourself. Well they'll move. You know on the end. They don't look into river mir. There's this those two wings all off to the side of the road gone meghan man and then they run out there needle. No man do that. When you're a kid remember playing on the front yard to get thirsty to the water hose in your forget the breed or just wanna really really hot summer day you let your friends drink. I is that little metal edge on the whole yard. The holiest dot com. I wait until i get old. I'm going to do that all the time. A nice cold drink. Too cold nation code did not get arrested. And when you guys were kids did you ever beg for twenty just to have. I mean you had to have this thing right and right when you get. It's like this is a piece of crap ever get those toys from whammo. Remember whammo anybody here. we get the whammo water wiggle. Okay okay now. What was the idea that thing. What was so your parents can. Have you beat without them. Being around underwater like wrapped around you throw in a backyard like a big. Give me with sticks candy out of you. Oh man slip and slide you ever get a slip and slide now. Those are great. Those ingrates unless yards madonna. Grovel forget to put the water and you go diving. On a thing. Man he let it go slide out in the streets won't some big trump. What was that. i don't know what it was. This kind of scandal be. He's fine he's all right and he ran off in bush's it'll be okay. You know we go here we go. How about an ant farm but anybody who ever get an ant farm disappointed. I mean i was not even a farm right then. Man ethics coach. I know well. That's a nice design. The see we can spell my name. Come on man. You're like god but those things aren't you like all the big glass of water and even in the high ground. Oh here we go here. We go and then. I got to get this to me is the all time piece of crap of a toy. Ever leased a my book and electric football game. Remember these things computer gonna buy rated. I remember the very first they'd spend hours of these. All men check. This plan is okay. This guy has got here run through here. He'll pass it. He'll for touchdown okay. Ready turned on. 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