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M 07 Dropping The Masks We Wear

A Doctor's Perspective Podcast

02:47 min | 2 years ago

M 07 Dropping The Masks We Wear

"Take. Dr perspective, mini so day going to be boring, brand episode one one two. From random -sition manager, and then a musician of splashy, they had some good stuff for the guy was talking about musicians these days to be creative, not just trying to make money concerts, but you have a certain persona. Maybe you can get a deal with a certain kind of different Ryan Mallett coke. But something a little less mainstream micro influencers major influence her. There's lots of lots of poking brands jewelry brands lifestyle. Brains who brands that are looking to have people who can Dorsey their product their crowds. You know, musician might have a couple hundred thousand followers. So that's good use of their time in hurts as a sponsor. And so how does that relate to Dr look through your town, and there might be some big deals in your town, that you can partner with they might be looking for more closer? You have it. You know, and athletic group might be looking for more speakers, the rotary might need were seekers, uncle ration- might need some help with or onomic training or might be interested in having somebody. Speak about how to stay fit. And so they're trying to, you know, have initiative where like it's in office, forty five day get shape and these about guide that maybe you might be in front of the guys that, if you just reach out, and then another one that was on the program talking about, you know, a lot of actors editions had this Asana that they portrayed onstage or like in the movie they shredded forgetting pay to play someone, and then you meet have been relying like, well, you're not that I was like, well, yeah I'm not that person. I'm not that's a character. Not really like that. I think like Ashton Kutcher, the always comes off as like a dummy, but in real life, he's really tech savvy and all that kind of stuff not that I really follow the guy, but he just comes to mind, so it could be something similar. We always wanna put on our serious doctor hat, and I'll side, they might see you like joke round and doctors like, I'm a serious person. So I'm outside at to be sure I'm always know dressed step above, my normal patients would be looking like, you know, I never really kick back them in the small town. Judge me how it look how act I'm actually in my house, and I lay on. And so the. Question becomes could. You bring that into the office somewhat could you be more spontaneous and fun in the office. So people do see you. They don't has a shock feeling. You don't feel like your impostor that was kinda my takeaway, give insight into yourself in some way that you could modify many, how you're interacting, your clients in daily life, for the he more of the same because the factors. Hiring. The front or did you disappointed 'cause you're not the same person? Now, let me just bridge, those to be some, okay? Daca justice. We just went behind the curtain.

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Importance of Spiritual Boundaries

Cafecito Break

55:30 min | 2 years ago

Importance of Spiritual Boundaries

"Hi this is science but is deficit debris and i am here at sole haven with two of my my favorite medicine way women irma star spirit and judith grasshopper and today we are talking about spiritual boundaries. Are these important. Should we have them. We're gonna be diving deeper into this conversation but i i'd like to ask irma ma to open up with a medicine. We saw hello everybody and this this song is going to be a through spirit and i have a rosy joel little wolf and judith grasshopper helping me with the sound sound to it <hes> this is for everyone to remember their ancestors and remember that we're all connected as one and never to lose that connection. I am <hes> i'm right. He you hear on i. I am on climbing the rope. I climbed the rope climbing the role this guy to the sky. I'm <music>. I'm rural. I climbed the rope. I'm climbed to the ancestors in the sky near the end says i'm here diane says to you with john sisters. We're you with on says says here we go. I am i climbed. I climbed the rope. I climb the rope to the sky. I'm here with the old ancestors. I'm here with the old ancestors. I'm here with cleal says. I want you to remember. I want to remember me the m <hes> i am. I am i am the the older sisters. You loved these the says tres. We'd you give you all the reeling from our <hes> e._m. Glenda roque climbed ronda grope to this guy and here i find i find god love. I i find the one that loves me. I am i am i am i am i am awake. I am i am i do love you. I know you love me. You love me. You love me too. I plan the rope. I learned the ropes glenn the to this guy whereby went ah i definitely i definitely feel the shift definitely feel the shift <hes> <hes> and i am. I am grateful that the ancestors are here. Yes thank you also for being here. <hes> doing the rope to the sky we recently did it and it was very moving and and then the song you paid i. I am sounded like the one we were clapping with. Which is i am yama. No without the ma i yeah and then it was that <hes> so it keeps keeps playing in my head and so i'm just feeling in connecting not only to my ancestors but to everybody's like the lady owes doing session it today. I could feel her ancestors. You know so it's worked for universal work so i wanted to share this song so that it could go to everyone and not just to the people that showed up for the for the work that we did so thank you for having us bowl liam and put you on the federal cakes absolutely hi judith. How are you rose. Jose angel little wolf good. Thank you for being here today. Extinct are not as great so i'll just say a whole everyone a oh. I ho to everyone one. I am a thank you i. I have to say that in working around the bowl have you these. I don't know how many years it's been definitely like seven maybe you i started off with mostar. Spur and then we received a space on seoul haven after us working so many years dedicating all services in a working hard after working and trying to put together events that the community can come all out to to attend and work with us. You know we are to minority. Latino women will pass how fifties but as far as the medicine and everything we've been doing has come from parents. I've always said i have to honor my mother and my grandparents. That's where i'm at right now. So it's always being the nine and like i've gone to centers. I i've gone to locations and it's been hard for me to get into other locations and get involved with the practitioners so teachers. I think today's about boundaries and i was thinking about it. All day and i just wanted like blurted out. 'cause i've been holding onto. I work all day and for me would be boundaries. It's like just remembering. It's not as hard remembering the person's name because you don't remember the person's name you don't stay away from them. You don't stay away because of a person's name and you don't stay away because of a person's personality is different from yours. I i enjoy my laughter. I enjoy comics. I enjoy hanging out with roles angel little wolf me and her. We laugh all day when we're and we break break boundaries with each other in jokes and we take in there. It's a different level of understanding but we always in respect of that respecting each other other respecting our personalities our bodies the mind the body the soul when we see each other we look at each other in the face as we smiled to the ice right we smile without cheekbones and shoulders schiffl a little bit you know eh and that's boundaries that respecting each other and if i was to forget roles angel's name just honoring and looking at her admiring her for what she represents as you walk into the door it's just you. You're not representing a big mountain. You're not representing a big earth. You're representing a big pool of water pool of of ward a pool of fire. It's just view you as an individual and people don't wanna look at that person as an individual. They wanted to look at everything if you don't have certain qualities not i don't have qualities. I'm just me you know. Accept me for who i am. That's the first law that's the first boundary accept. Let me for who i am. What i looked like what i speak how i sound love the person within not the person that you're looking at love the person within stanton and with the names i have poor memory sometimes anti have clients come in here have little circles at eight ten people. I truly don't remember everybody's name but we look at each other and we share that smile mile and isle cheek bone. Stay they go up and i'll shoulder shake from laughter and you can see the compassionate within the eyes and the compassion in the heart and that for me is very important and if you don't carry that compassionate and the eyes and in the heart come come on over. We'll break you in that you laugh. Let you shake it out. Let you have a good high beautiful candle. Say your prayer and it don't even have to be a prayer because just lighting that flame the flame is the heart rate so once you that flame your lighting your heart and spirit the room lights up the sky lights up everything lights up with that flame 'cause they're flame is life so it's a it's a mixture of everything. It's coming to all bringing it all together and it's a lot i'm saying hopefully someone out. There can understand what i'm trying i to explain here but bring it inside. The sole haven is this is what i've been wanting to bring in bringing it all in no discrimination based on your skin color or your attitude or what if you had millions of dollars if you have one dollar because i've experienced that in my life it's just being you just coming in sharing laughter joy harmony lighting that candle lighting up the room sharing it with everyone here and feeling comfortable and feeling the love and sharing your compassion and sharing the wisdom system because latin wisdom is lighting candle going back to that one flame people can't light that one flame that is great wisdom for persons pick up a match or two rocks and lighting that flame wisdom because they're doing something in their life for the very first time time something that they haven't shared with others so that wisdom and it falls within the boundaries and holding that space as far as the group calls house people have to hold that energy within and sharing it with a first timer and that's important to carry this a lot out of seeds the both of you have already opened the first one is with the ancestors because we're you know when we look look at the modern society that we're living a lot of what's old gets trampled upon gets thrown away. There's disregard this disregard for elders disregard for all buildings. We don't need it. Let's tear down and put it on modern one and i'm also witnessing so much disrespect of elders within the medicine healing medicine. We should manage community an elders industry as you will qualify someone who's of elder age. There's this disregard. It's almost like they wanna get replaced with kindles. Just download everything to my gadget. I have all of the information here. I don't need you anymore. And what i'm seeing are a lot of people practicing their medicine. They're healing way one. I'm seeing a lack of and this is actually coming is a desert buzz in private. Conversations is a lack of acknowledging alleging your teachers who taught you whether they've whether at the end it was a bad experience but there was still something they opened up for you right or for just disregarding that connection overall and if we can if you can talk erm about why <hes> it might be helpful who'll to connect to that ancestor heart in our blood blood are lightning are lightning means who you are in your energy that candle that duty was talking about about is the chamonix fire reiki. It's because the flyers in the center. It's it's what keeps us alive and everybody has lightning. Lightning energy is needed and a lot of people are afraid of lightening energy. They feel it's two powerful or they don't know how to use it but that's the same thing as carrying that light that judas was talking about in in your heart. It's about being the luminous one you know shining once we are the shining ones and we can't lose that light and so say say you're adopted. You don't know come from but you have this light and you do have ancestors and you need to tap into it. You have to remember. It's a point of remembering like you set remembering our elders in our our teachers <hes> they get old and we need to be there for them. You know and support them and as we also are getting older you know <hes>. Even the children need to be respected. You know how many children are not heard and and listen to their wise as wisner's a seventy or eighty year old or ninety year old and we forget that data chuck can tell you bluntly something that can teach you and you can say well i i oh i didn't think of it that way so it's about not only respect to elders. It's it's respect to everything that's living really and the the earth and the planet and each other you know being there for each other and recognizing when we are in need because we're only human beings you know your teachers are human beings. All of us are just human beings and sometimes times we need help and are you going to turn your back on someone who needs help. You know you you give all you can about giving but also you also need to be able to receive and take the time to receive two to connect to the ancestors is to take that time to receive to stay say hey. I might not know you but i know that my bloodline is your bloodline. Maybe maybe i need to be forgiven. Maybe you can do up from me. Maybe you can look out for my son on my daughter or my grandchildren dron or the or the earth you know and we have to have these conversations. That's what the rope to the sky was. When i claimed claimed that rope personally neat 'cause i was the last one to climb the rope. The bandana that was on me was soaked. My tears were were held in that bandanna but it wasn't my tears being held in the bandana. My ancestors were holding those is tears for me and i could feel it and so this is what you need to understand that you need to feel. He'll someone you need to honor them for who they are. Just like what chooses was saying doesn't matter the sex the gender under the age. You know a lot of people because you're a medicine urine the medicine or your teacher teacher <hes> they come and they can you tell me what to do. Can you do can you do this. Can you do that. Can you do this for me. Would harvick knowledge. You know it's up to the person to stay yeah. I can help you out. You know but you can't bombard. Somebody has to be that. That's a boundary. That's a big boundary and you have to honor your teachers and <hes> in medicine way that i've grown up with with my own teachers that they have taught me as offerings. You know you see your teacher. You offer them something just because they're your there there that you loved them here. This is for you nothing else. Just this is for you when a when a teacher comes to chamonix <unk> native native american. I always tell the people coming. Please bring a gift of tobacco. Please bring a chocolate or something because the minute you walk up to someone you greet them. You introduce yourself to them. You give them that little token of love breath and say i believe you for who you are and i'm very happy to meet you. Even if it's for the first time or i love you because every time and that you hear i love you and this is for you because i want you to remember that your loved than that your support so it's about supporting and everyone in every way people come here and we we can give them a feather and tell them to cleanse each other. Usually there's one main person who does that but it's good that the community andy know how to do that for one another and when you do that don't don't read anybody. Don't say all you got heavy in reggio descend that don't don't go there. That's a big boundary. You know and i'm going to pass the mic to for judy talk about the talking stick because she told me you know. The tuchus took is very important and some treat this. Mike like a talking stick before you do that. Do i have a question for the listeners who are not familiar with how father is utilized for like komo way energy so you usually use sage or smoke or essence water or plants lance of flowers in a bowl and you dip the feather in and you just brush away the energy and i was taught that whenever you brushed away energy you also lift energy so lifting energy it's to bring new energy into the person so after you've brushed energy out you lift energy up and then you go back and do the same in a lot of people come after work in the very tired of the gut frustrated at the job or they're leaving their children in their will read you know coast i left the kid and and i rushed over here and so to let go of all of that so they could come and be in tune to the one of the crew and that's why i always say we're gonna pass this feather around because if i do it and i clean everybody that's that's good. It's it's a good thing but if people don't even know how what further is just to feel it just to feel it happened cleanse on themselves and then to cleanse someone else is different feel a different experience. It's a different teaching and it's a community t- <hes> energy exchange and that's what we're really looking for his community energy exchange that sky the rope in the sky. It was a healing we all had a part of that healing one person by one by my one client but they were tended to by the whole group and i thought that was so beautiful to have people hugged you and i love you and an cleanse you and support you in whole your hand and say hey. It's okay it's beautiful and all you're doing is remembering who you are and guess what we're remembering to no. We've remember member youtube. We'd love you to and that's what community work is about is to be in that strong structure of of holding you know sign up leone teacher. She's coming in september and she said i want to do something about helping helping the healer because the he was always healing other people receiving anything i said wow that is truly amazing because it is true we don't get to receive we have to ask sometimes and not in sometimes i do ask but to say let's take time for each healer within that's amazing mazing and she's still teaching. I love very much and you know her. Well judith no so well and i wish whole world would know her because her heart hardy's as big as this universe this planet yes to all of the meetings who sana <hes> just enough i exchange she taught me something very valuable that connected me to the ancestors right away and even even the feminine energy and also the see the currency of movement of being able to activate movement and why it sacred rid to be able to walk sacred to be able to feel lands a secret to be able to dance now because you're trying to look like a ballerina or like dance hip hop to beat out or like south set to be on dancing with the stars but it's for the joy of feeling this skin and i remember when i first met her. She got right next to me. She's she said when you dance she reminded me of that. Connection of also taking part of this greater cosmic demands for the sisters and for the men in the children there could could only dream about this and as my travels have taken me a have met people who have never danced in their first dance with me and and that is priceless. This is a treasure. It's a healing to you know we had someone come recently recently. When we work together that had had an injury in said it was hard to stand for a long time and in that and that woman was dancing and i am i told you saying to to to see how beautiful she was dancing and she lost all the care all the worries in the world. It was like hearing am on floating on air. I'm on me. I'm spirit and and i'm free i'm free. My body is not holding that that heavy energy anymore. It's like flight feather other bird and it was beautiful. I think that was for me. That was a very touching moment to see that it's <hes> thank you because i know you know. You helped a lot with the movement that day. Magic happens when the three of us together. I still don't know how that happened. Even dancing with the stars kind of moves that i did the other day do with so you're gonna talk to us about the talking stick and in a sense that is showing a boundary injury is in it by by doing and not necessarily talking at someone like this is big. Nobody talks ch- you know like when you don't sound like a teacher but it's a different way to communicate a very powerful boundary if you could tell me what talking stickers and we'll take it from there well. If you look at talking stick the way i look at a talking stick if you go into court and then you have to judge sitting in his chair and he has this wooden he has his wooden stick his mallet and he's the only one that can speak once that mallet if someone else speaks in in the room says you're out of line and brings down his malik so that's that's the way it it's a talking stick that brings attention to the room the people in the space and whoever holds that stick stick can be a wooden stick it can be it can be a bone. It can be rattle. It's whatever is designated at that time and we call it as talking. Stick this right here. Hey this is mike is talking sticks on holding onto talking stick right now. So this is the time whoever holds it shares shares their experience <hes> they can share experience as coming into the room after room is open. How was your day today. Would anybody like to share two area to us in a room. How was your day today so we pass out the stick the talking stick and whoever holds it shares. It's something that we have to off the respect to because we're holding the talking stick opening our hearts and we're speaking foam our hearts to people we have never met met in the end the rule mile in the circle so as we're speaking and we're holding on to the stick everybody's listening and yes some of us are shaking our heads some some whatever is expressed at that moment some of us will actually share emotion but what we say that while we are sharing this emotion with each other as far as keeping the boundaries no one in the room should say oh yes you should be doing this and this and giving a diagnosis on what the person sharing its holding that sacredness among each other in the space and giving the opportunity to the person that is holding that stick to speak and they can speak once again from their heart and can be an emotional something traumatic. It can be something joyful. It can be something hurtful. Something sad something that they're sharing about. Their parents aryan stick grandparents their children their job. Their boss is a hospital something that happened in a street while they were arriving into their destination. Something that's coming out that they need to release so that they can receive healing from the group the community the the group or it can be before something that we're sharing all even after the event like when i hold on i hope sound baths. I do my little ricky circles. So during the rookie circles save what anybody liked to share something that they received felt during the time that we're here and and we pass around a stick a beautiful rattle. I like my rattles. Why hold my gongs my mallets and i use that that symbolizes just who i am a pass around one of my little flutes my little al fluid something because it symbolizes who i am and they share so one at a time one at a time. Why do we not encourage like if you're sharing a story and i'm like oh. I know exactly what you mean so. Are you suggesting that that's something that we're not encouraging talking like so. If you're saying something in the middle of your sentence i might say i know exactly what you mean. Just the other day i was in such and such is that helpful is does that. Take away your thoughts. I'm sorry just like i just interrupted speaking so it interrupts the train of thought what is being said what is being spoken and then the person if if the other person says yes it is coming out blunt. You're just saying at that very moment. Yes i understand what that just happened to me. So we silenced you and then and you stick goes around then you come out and share it. It can be shared that way but to interrupt or just come out and say just out. I thought at that very moment sandwich you have to say go silent offer that respect to the person holding the stick and just wait for richard turn. That's when you go into powell. Oh you go within fire ceremony. Holding the sacredness is the same way. It's no different so no no interruptions. You've been even if i'm getting this divine download where i'm getting really energized in the group and i have to share at that moment. You're saying to me see that. It's not necessarily appropriate to cut you off. If you have to share at that moment if you have to share that moment as something is coming out through you through spirit for you to share because spirit is coming through you then there's no way for us to interrupt spirit spirit is spirit spirit taking over the space so we're going to have to go silent and let you say what you have to say and then let the person not not to analyze or dictate or to say i felt this and then continue the conversation from what you have said. Even though the person is holding the stick okay okay must be given that opportunity to express themselves the same way spirit came through you and let spirit express themselves. Maybe the person at that time said something that was inappropriate. Spirits ears not to our ears and spirit had to come through someone one that was always a channel and they received the message and they had to say it at that moment to speak on spirits behalf but once that person persson is holding that stick it should be given to that person right so though the ideal if i'm hearing correctly is unless there's a true divine like china early because being a squeaky wheel here a meeting a lot of people who are just i have downloaded. I have to share what i wanna say so. How do you distinguish as it onto stars whitman whether it's ego or it's actually a message. I just want to put something something in the air. When we open up circle it's about letting go and releasing so the stick you honor the person as they talk and they release whatever it's like having a conversation with spirit. You're talking to spirit. If you have a download whatever the stick was all the way around and it could go twice around continue to go around and around is many <unk> times at it needs to but when the person is holding that stick the only person that may interrupt is the facilitator the person holding the space for the group very rarely. Does that happen but it does happen but if you are this is boundaries. This is dealing with boundaries. If you're holding the stick and you get an epiphany that you wanna share you'll have to wait till that goes around to you and if it just past you you'll have to wait till it goes around again and you can ask for that. You can say may i. I have the stick and the stick will go around and it can go as many times as needed but the reason of the talking stick is to just give if that person personal attention to address what they're feeling to have an open space and time which we don't have time but it's continuous time timelessness but it's about opening yourself off for spirit to hear you so spirits listening to everyone in the room so boundaries yes yes. There are boundaries. Were talking stick. If you really need to share something you raise your hand if the if the stick has passed did you already you raise. May i have to stick and then the stick will go around if you haven't had the stick and then let's say judy just spoke and i wanted to speak when i get this. I can address. I can address jewelry. I felt like that too an brought something up to me echo that i echo how you feel and so i could talk about that at that time but then i'm also sharing whatever whatever i need to share but there needs to be a respect of the circle the circle michael needs that respect and part of it is the talking stick and knowing how to hold a talking stick. We're holding according mike's right now. I gotta close to my mouth. You don't hold the talking stick like a microphone close to your mouth. It is not a microphone. It is a talking stick. You can lie on your hand on your left hand or you can just hold it. Sometimes i acts because we create these talking six. We'll be right warrior. You've given rupees some things and she's very personal talking stick. She's very alive and i say a trust talking. Stick say hello ruby. How are you you know or swami lami which is another talking stick which has gone and lama. His name was swami mommy so people's address hello tuchman stay. I'll say like ed norton used to address the golf. Ball flew. Ooh peers the presence. If it's a mallet if it's gone mallet look at this john mallett field the strength of there's gong mallet you might not have a gong to hit it with but feel that talking sta- feel the feather. Maybe it's the talking other. If you care talking to other it could further yourself and then speak you know so it depends. Many people use many things it's the the the principle thing is that it's something to honor who you are and what you have to say what you have to share to the group but mostly what you need to shine your heart to spirit so spirit can help you because it becomes one circle and what i feel. You might feel what you feel. Judy might feel and it comes to become one big emotion and one surge of energy so there's many boundaries like in in medicine you know and to be mindful all and if you don't know them i ask you know and if somebody interrupts you while you're holding. It's okay to say excuse me. I have the talking stick you know or not. I would have to say that. Excuse me the talking. Stick going around okay but you also also can speak. You know somebody's excuse me. I have the talking stick. I we will pass it on to you. When i'm done. That's true you know what i was thinking about. When rozehnal aspirin little wolf asked me about when when someone else receives his big lightning it's coming down through their crown and they have to get this message. Reminded me a whoopie goldberg and that's what i told you about won't be goldberg. They were doing the same and she's talking all. Send somebody else's comes through and they have to like. That's the part yeah that's containable. It's happening in the room okay. They're going to speak to speak to that person. Regardless who has to talking stick. That's a great point which is when someone who is talking and and then when they get interrupted is beyond a friendly interruption that you're interrupting a process that maybe they have would have been opening right. So why is that even important. I mean from i grew up in a family where the art of the puerto rican conversation is cross talking everybody having a conversation at the same time so is six of us. We're having three different conversations in the same room and then i turned to you and i'm carrying on. I heard you say something about the puzzle. I know i have a jigsaw puzzle to oh yeah. How did you like that coffee. The other day and i'm having two different conversations and everything's a big whirlwind. I know from experience chance. Being an active listener has been one of the hardest things to learn why is being an active listener sner of valuable tool. I'm going to share one session. That really has not forgotten about it happened right here. In this room it happened on seventeenth street out old location and it was a rocky circle and we did the energy change we offer each other raking and then it came down towards the end time to sit down and just talk and then share now everyone in the room when they first started they so i feel great. I'm tired. I'm this my work my family and my loved ones but this one woman said she was wonderful throughout the whole entire thing and then next thing you know at the very end as we're all speaking and just listening in a circle circle her emotions came up as she says she has cancer and at that moment i looked at her. We all well look at each other. I'll faces changed because she was expressing herself. At the very end. We would never have thought this person her appearance coming in the room. Saying everything is good. I'm doing good. My job is good. My life is good and then at the very end of the day of the session. She came out. She actually expressed it and let it out. I have cancer third cancer three going through all these treatments and it was very like everything thing changed in a room. It's like the session. Even though the session on a table finished we had to open now the circle again and to the woman and people were actually giving her ricky on the floor and offering her a link on the floor because the table we were closing up. I was closing up but without a talking stick without being in that circle without opening it up the true true true meaning of her coming into this space to receive ricky from others was given at the very end right before before we were all about to walk out the room ten minutes before we will sharing ten minutes later we would have been closing the lights and leaving and giving this woman the confidence and that moment of peace and her feeling comfortable enough off among us here among the women that were in a circle to say i have terminal cancer and i don't know where if i'm going to live tomorrow tomorrow or if i'm going to die. I'm like really shaken by all of this aisle laughter out. Everything is like okay. People guess s. one. We're not going to change the space again and continued to session and we all offered her rate. He offered her love. We offer song. We offered her movement sitting here on the floor. 'cause the tables were away. I think that if we would have not been in this circle of of one unity you know women even if a man was sitting here in a circle they would have felt it as well that trust is holding that space and holding that talking stick and the talking stick at that time was nothing physical. It was a mental talking stick because we were in a circle and just sharing and one person at a time spoke so the talking stick was not a physical something we can hold onto the talking stick at that moment was being in the circle looking at each other listening twelve voices connecting to a heart looking at each other's in is saying. I'm here to listen to you. I'm here with you. Let us share among each other. What you need to release <music> before you walk out store and it just opened so it's a spiritual choke. Connection is the talking stick as we say open yourself. Open your heart. Let me be a witness to what you are experiencing. Let me hold your space. Let me hold you and compassion. Let the the buddha love come to you from me. That's what this stick for me. Represents and i offer you a stick but what i offer you a stick of life of love of trust of faith of expression of compassion so it can be a piece of a pencil if that's all we have at that moment we had our hearts and that heart was open to share among each other and i personally could not really deal with her as one hundred percent because i i was holding you know just like i said the facilitator has to hold the space but we looked at each other and i realized that in the group they hey where he took over. Everybody in the group felt her and i'm not going to say felt her pain. You know in that weight. They just felt her what she needed to receive that moment was not to feel that heaviness but to feel the loaf of heaven right it wasn't necessarily crying with her but it was less healing with her loving her being in secret presence of of seeing alive to being alive and that in the millions at there it is we're here. We're here we're here. We are here heroes. We are present. We're here with you now and that's what this is about the stick represents and they represent a lot more <hes>. I mean both of you. Carry that energy whenever from here. I just don't know what to expect so you're keeping me always in the press. They said you know if all you have four you have is pencil and i use the pencil as a talking stick because i forgot who is it is. If all you have is a pencil to help you do a healing on somebody then. That pencil has now become a sacred object. I'm never gonna forget. You said that 'cause you're right. A lot of times that even speaks to the conversation of people feel like i can't do this until i have all this that sort of saying well you right here like nobody went. Oh i'm sorry the classes old by right and you would would have been in you're very right and maybe she didn't even expect that all of a sudden there will be this redirect and i'm like oh no. We need to hold the sister right now right and it's okay because this is part of you said yes so yes right. That was me. I had a session opposite where we awa- giving a session. Excuse me and there was a they would team up by three and then the person receiving went to another level. They went to a higher level and what happened at that time. I told her star star spirit. Wilmer irma that the person listen really went to another level and the person in the room they didn't know how to connect to her so they looked at me and i said okay so now i have to talk to somebody talk to higher realms to see how to work with this client. That's receiving but the other people in the room they all step back and i told them hold my space. Hold the space. Keep the space. Keep the energy clear and strong. I told them or just hold the space. Keep us strong. You know keep everything steady. Don't in panic. Don't worry i have the situation under control at this moment right you know but that they became if you would've looked at these women they l. Look like trees in the forest. So that's another form of a talking stick. They all gathered together in one little area and they all look like a tree and forest one big tree one big trunk in my eyes and my vision and that energy is what we kept together to hold her space and no one spoke about what she was what she was experiencing. No-one violated her no one and laughed about it. No one spoke up against it. No one short fear they gave her that confidence and that comfort comfort to continue to go through her emotions release her emotions while i worked with her so that's respecting boundaries numbing sense that really does and not a lot of people can hold liquor theme later. They'll say okay. I'm hoping i'm opening to circle <hes> but i have in the at <unk> at witness. Many times people not having being strong enough to hold the circle and the energy of the circle the responsibility of holding all all of that as a container. I don't think it's something that most people even think about as wide even <hes> necessary like i remember burst time where i was holding an event and it was in a in within it wasn't in the temple of a church but is still within the building of the church f- for me. I'm i'm and on sacred ground. They might not be my church per se but this church is opening up the door for me to hold a class with the community community and i remember a group of women. I was instead a moment in my mind lighting candles while a doubles physically physically happened but in my mind i was preparing and these two women came from the outside and as they walk into the space there were so loud like if they were in the park and i remember having this moment where another woman that was there was like was the big deal they don't know any better right and it became almost like this point of conversation where in that i felt like a minority in my own gathering which taught me a couple of lessons about the container i was holding and how it wasn't clear with with the right way to walk into space like that and i you know ask the leaders if they could take it down a little bit and and the turnout in a way where it was least be quiet dow feel patronizing i think right or it'll be like highly wellcoll ole which is trying to like some people already here meditating you know that could've you know we're not trying to be abrupt. Give but in a way where you're still communicating being a boundary so i definitely see that that's a hard thing to do. I think that takes practice lots of years the one lesson i i think that irma you one of the first teachers of this powerful medicine and it was back in agar key cds and i remember <unk> witnessing someone who wanted to being your class and they don't want to pay for it. I think that was the case and through through this work through because my sister and i have to shop i get to witness a lot of conversations to where some people have they think everything should be for free or they don't realize why there should be an exchange of somehow and i wanted see if you can talk about energy exchange and what that really means is it really about the monetary value or you know if you can share some more i don't remember that experience again casey but <hes> you give of yourself to the the community with an open heart and there should always be <unk> energy exchange for the energy that you're giving we put sometimes it's monastery sometimes you can someone can come up to you and talk to you and say i can do this for you. You know it could be some sort of work that they could do or help. Sometimes sometimes they're not able to afford the whole thing they you can speak with them. They could speak to you and you can come to some sort of agreement but there's always if there is an exchange what happens is you start to drain. Your own energy starts to drain. It's like you're giving you're giving you're giving and you're not receiving anything and a lot of dealers suffer this way and get very sick. They get ill so there has to be some sort of black pekao conversation the station about you know what is expected. You know <hes> children. Sometimes parents have have kids and they act. Can i bring my child with me depending on the circle of it's very hard circle. You know it's a loud drumming in a two year old. It's gonna be too much sound but even judy has had people bring thing <hes> rakia to rake a circles <hes>. I did a whole drum day healing drum with a child here <hes> the mother. I wasn't gonna turn her wait. No the mother had a situation night. I couldn't turn a.

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The Big Suey: A Frustration Yell

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

37:50 min | 3 months ago

The Big Suey: A Frustration Yell

"Stugotz here let's take a minute for our friends over draft draftking. Sportsbook is not only. My favorite sport spoke but also america's top rated sportsbook speaking of america. Our top athletes are over in tokyo. Competing for the gold and draftkings has a metal worthy offer just for our listeners. Place any pre event wager of one dollar to be eligible to cash one hundred dollars in free credit if america wins any metal this year. That's one hundred to one odds on an american athlete to stand on the podium and received gold silver or bronze this week. That's it that's all. It takes one hundred to one odds on offer like this doesn't come around often so sign up for draftking sportsbook now to get in on all of the action. I love using draft game sportsbook. It is easy to navigate has plenty of instructions for new betters and nearly limitless ways to get in on all the action download. The top rated draftking sportsbook app. Now use promo code. Dan when you signed up to one dollar until one hundred dollars at free credits. If america wins a medal. That's code dead to turn one dollar into one hundred dollars in free credits for a limited time. Only at draftking sportsbook must be twenty one or older new jersey. Indiana were pennsylvania. Only new customers only restrictions apply see draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler or indiana one. Eight hundred nine with it. This is dan lebatardshow with this. To spot cass and be available via zoom stugatz. What happened. He needs to leave early. Early came early so early last night. I'm in bed a Help you out with samson buddy. I'm like wow. This is so nice. Just no athlete like dan in my defense. Where the other day was mike saying. Hey us off on. Thursday was saying that yes yes he was saying that the can be available by zoom was unlikely so i showed up early for bobby happy. I'm leaving early. Happy birthday happy coast. Thank you thank you. Everyone thank you. Thank you it on your world tour right now. I have in delaware bill. Oh they're nothing american. select across. What city are you can look up the top five things to do there. I think you said lacrosse was over. Stu gods lord of select crosses over. Okay this is american national team and of course rather than trying to pick my story apart. Perhaps congratulate me and my daughter not me for making this Specialty congratulated as well. I deserve it. I mean she listened. She's nothing without me. It just needs to be made clear to everyone here that we all heard you the correct way that lacrosse was over and now it's not over like that. That's not up for dispute like it's not up every it's not up for dispute you can go and do sausage fingers and everything else. It's not offered this. You told everybody lacrosse was over. Well listen me as a coach. That part of it is over me. Coaching dud me as a fan watching my daughter play. That will never be done this. I i'm just get into the good stuff for you getting me off economy wake northwestern twenty two down here to meet with stugatz and never got to do it and won't get to do it next week. Either come on. And he's back. He's back next week for two days and then he's on vacation again for another week off all off all week. You're off all week next week. Then you come back for two days. Yeah i have you in monday. August ninth and tuesday august tenth. And then you're off on the twelfth. That's in the calendar okay. I'm sorry i'm looking at right now. Is that the usa team national. How i don't know what your are. yeah. I don't know what you're talking about billy. I saw a giddy joy. Sweep across your face. When the confusion began. So august ninth and august stem. You're in like a back you know. I'm here mike. I'm actually here that whole week. I think except for thursday here in miami okay. Whole week is up for thursday. Well it says off. Yeah i get my vacation days months in advance. That roy i know and you just try to you. Just try to get to a digital ones. I weren't in the calendar. That was usa national team of telling you god division is history. You did give some of your vacation dates months ago and then two weeks ago. Some more vacation dates coming for. I love that this like the bare minimum of just giving vacation dates. The way they do at any workplace is some sort of grand achievement. Hey i gave you guys like this partial of sort of lies. That's gonna change totally by the time it's done. What give me some credit because it's better than not giving you it see how it goes. I mean you're blaming this on the kids. Of course who else is gonna be kids. They won't stop change their plans. You sleep wake him very wishy washy one. That's the problem but one is at sleep away camp because she knows exactly what she wants to be. The other one is conflict. Do i want to be this all american lacrosse player. Do i just wanna be a kid and be. A campers wants to be both. So what am i doing take tournaments. Then i take back up the camp and i pick her back off from camp and take her back tournaments and dropper back off again this rachel's become a complete pain in the ass lobby. You sound like a great dad. thank you say it. You feel like a fan of the year. Perhaps you think you're better data better lacrosse coach. Food very good question Probably better lacrosse coach. I've been lost in like three years. And all i do with. My kids is liz. I don't believe that you haven't lost three. It's it's three years. Probably i probably embellish that he would be multiple national champion and all these tournaments because back and tells us he got like fifth-place in no no no no no. We are the number one team. Look up lacrosse rankings. Inside of the cross. Go ahead whittingham do it and tell us. We see florida select. He's twenty two rankings. Please thank you assured that says coach like embroidered on it. But i wish i did and let me tell you the one game. We've lost the last two years Two two and a half years now. We're no an unbeaten in three two one loss into there were no listen to me wittingham. There were no faceoffs. Do co. vid you take the face off of the game. It doesn't aggregate so right so you might see a loss there in the loss column. But i'm telling you take the face off circle and all that which is what we're best that you take that out of the game and there is no game. I count is favourite stugatz. Lie towel because the listen as opposed to allow him together or listen to me or it's it's applause that allows them to sort of gather himself for whatever's going unspoiled. You have a favorite yet when he breathes when he's breathing. I have a pretty good idea. Lies coming out of the rankings. Seven anyone. I mean no you. We know your team is good. I think it's more objecting to the. We haven't lost in three years which you eat. You didn't even try like you didn't even you did listen to me and then you're like okay. Never mind. maybe it's been too. I'm looking it up right now. So i'll let you guys know how many games we've lost. What i'm telling you dan is. We do have a loss. But i don't count it as okay personal records. That's all. I'm trying to tell you personal record. Book your own record book. Which makes sense. We are talking to one of the greatest lacrosse coaches of all time. You are amazing gonna find This is exciting just to paint a vivid picture for those listening. Not listening long on a podcast. God's just joke about when. I wanted to say five whole minutes. Typing into a search bar with only his index fingers nineteen one in three. What i'm telling you as you get thrown the loss out. I'll take the three ties but nineteen one in three number one team in the country monsters national purple who was one of the teams we tied. They are number two in the country heroes green. We beat them seven times in a row. They are number three in the country. Empty black number four in the country. Nine hundred ninety. One three dead. And i've talked to you in my personal record book. Nineteen o three because that one game that we lost that no faceoffs and faceoffs are the biggest part of the game. I mean it's ridiculous. It's like all of a sudden taking a football game and saying hey you have three downs to get first. Dan rather than four. You know. you know what he's saying. Did i understand face off. So the most important part of the game and i tuned out about seventeen lies ago. Nineteen one in three hundred as far as he's concerned that one you take toss it out three. I'll even leave in there. It's okay to lose once in a while and you're not defeated still looks pretty good. There's a number one next to my team's name bill. I'm looking at rankings. For twenty twenty to shut your mouth and out this. I don't know if this is the recruiting section or the ranking of your performance section. But i have florida select number twenty four on this this it look it up. I looked it up finding. Oh this isn't doesn't know what he's he doesn't know what he's the key move. The key moves in the arsenal is always some form of you. Look it up you do the work you disprove that what i am saying is not true and then when you do you shut up. You don't know what you're talking about winning here. what are you looking at. I just wanted to clear. I just put it in the chat. It says inside lacrosse. it's there. It's twenty twenty sous and your team is twenty four. That's a recruiting database. What are you talking to to the rakings moron. Jesus rankings of your capacity to send players to college. I sent to the north western. You kidding me you get out of here. This is all i can do is coach him up. I can't get him in the college. They're on the wrong. When it comes to that i got my daughter to northwestern into the final four last year when he watch some of these kids should be hitting the books more. You know what i mean. Exactly right or listen thrown against the wall more billy. No that means. I did look up. Us club lacks dot. Com to god's July twenty eighth twenty twenty one rankings. The tag has is today. raise to the hannah. No florida club. Select elsie twenty twenty two is ranked number one boom the country. Thank you now. I understand with winning saying you would think that. Perhaps are girls would went to tibet. Lacrosse colleges is that what you're saying in we didn't. We didn't get recruited as well. I just sent. I send you the rankings. And all and that an produced florida's like the twenty fourth. So i i. Don't i don't know what what other rankings there are This website is a little byzantine. But i'm i'm attempting to find. Oh dear god a dear. Dear god that is attempting to find the definition of byzantine. That is not the word to use their even though it is accurately used. I don't think anybody else would have used that word. I think this is go ahead. Chris wittingham is a fancy. It's a chocolate drink. Something it's a tribute to you stu gods that you have such a great team in such a great record while none of your girls can get into college. Because they're not as good as their coaches right there it. You're doing it with not the highest of college recruits. You're not alabama getting all the best players you're just the best coach mixing and matching to your number one ranking or number twenty four depending on which rankings. You're looking at that is correct. Listen we have done it in a non traditional lacrosse state where i have sixteen seventeen girls who have come together as a team where the whole is greater than the parts perhaps okay and they have dan they have were toward. They have listened to me and we've arrived at a place where we are the number one team in the country. Now i'm proud of our girls. I really have. We still get a little. There's there's a little mistrust because we're not maryland. Were not long island. So college coaches will tend to go and recruit those teams those clubs. And they'll do it without even seeing some of those players and so there's still some hesitation on the coach's part to recruit kids from florida because if they nontraditional across day but we have two kids go in the northwest and we have one kid going the michigan we have one kid going the penn state. I mean these are the cross powers right now. you know. They're not maryland enough north carolina. But these are top ten programs in the country. And i'm damn proud of that and by damn proud of them. I mean dan proud of me out that hearing you talk and lie and breathe Breathing is ultimate. Tell that you're lying. It made me go back into the archive because it reminded me of another time. Where you inflated your own lacrosse legend. I found his sixty minutes segment of all of your lies crumbling to the ground the more we started peeling away layers big man on campus include. It into the pie is this. This was his making a bunch of threes. When we finally looked it up. And you're talking about you're talking about. When we talked about the team photo that he was probably in because his lacrosse team was filled with such a bunch of misfits and he said he was an amazing goal score and then we ll. It turns out he was the goalie he said he was the most prodigious goalscorer in the history of the program and we actually started looking it up news. 'cause we found it odd that the greatest goal score in program history would then be moved out of that position and into the goalies. Now we got from espn espn. I thought espn was trying to keep that. It was a bad strategy to have their best offensive player. One of the best in the country also be the backup goalie listened. That's coaching thing. I don't play me the back of going because i was a good athlete. Importing coaching is in lacrosse. Exactly thank you so. I'm not exactly sure how this is going to age. But here is the entirety of sue. God's lies about his lacrosse career crumbling. So good you tell me what you think is better this year to be. Is it better to be this year. Matt barkley or ryan mallett this year matt barkley but eventually it will probably be better to be ryan mallett at some point but no i'm with you better be i'm talking about. Brockman wants to sign up for another year being matt barkley. Instead of another year of being of being ryan mallett dan. listen coming from someone who was the b. m. o. c. big man on campus. And i was. That's so do b. m. o. c. I mean i was victim of my university. Lacrosse was the only physical sport we had. I was at all american most. See listen i. I pay a lot of money back do that. Acronym i e the akaba cosima about the story about the acronym. How about the story of lupus. Unbelievable i mean. Stu got says uncommon delusion. That's unbelievable college. Did you go to again. Clark university if i called their athletic department right now and said. Can you tell us how to contact one of your more successful graduates. John weiner yeah they would they would have the. oh yes. well. I mean the guy's jersey that's up there be mark ninety-two born just referred to me as be mom unbelievable. I went to the clark university website. Yeah and stugotz does indeed hold a couple of lacrosse records. Yes i was making this up on the web now. The only reason. I don't own all the records. Dan is my senior year team player here. I'm a team player. Okay senior year. Our goldie went down with an injury. I had never played goalie before in my life. I played goalie my senior year. You you are magic. Johnson filling in for kareem for an entire year magic for game. I did it for an entire season. Okay so how'd i played my normal position which was attacked that season. I would have shattered every record and i would still hold them to this day as it is pointed out and see now with his own eyes. I'm pretty high pretty Pretty close to being right at the top of all the all. The major categories points assists goals goals. That was the only one. I saw points to go points where you went to kellogg. Where is that no honestly. I don't know. Clark university worcester mass. You'd make that mistake clark kellogg. Of course of course at clark university and then of course you know my graduate school at cs was also see their connecticut school of broadcasting. There's a through keeps sending here. Because i just asked you off air. How good was the team. And you said pretty good texter here. Who keeps sending what the records were of those teams that you were allegedly on. Yep go ahead. Were you own eleven when you are the keeper for your lacrosse team dollars my senior year. Yes now understand. The ultimate team sacrifice their. I had never played going before in my life and i want to play goalie because our got injured and we went with eleven. Yeah i think it was one in ten. Actually we beat bryant college your name hanging from the rafter so wait a minute. That makes me believe that the other record he sent for your lacrosse team. And i gotta find this here because it's buried here but were you sub five hundred team your entire career. Big man on campus. Emc but my freshman year. I think we were six and five. I think we were six. I think the record that i got for you did you guys. I think was like eight and thirty four. No one more than eight games. I hope we want more than eight games. I think we we looked this. You got a sprinkle the eleven in there. it doesn't help but others. I made the ultimate sacrifice. There was magic johnson playing center in the nba files game. I did overseas the sacrifice historically bad team. Let's do this after the show. Let's put you in goal. Okay and let me take one hundred mph shots god defensiveness even if you did that in a college game yeah. My record. goalkeeper couldn't end up being worse than yours. All america no honorable mention all american as a sophomore. Let's let's look hopton. Come out here start the show with the big man on campus. I was huge. I was great at lacrosse. And when we were talking about your records you you really enjoyed talking about your records but all of a sudden you don't want to talk about the team record. Ultimate team guy didn't mention that he was owen. Eleven left that part. I don't you think that's a pretty important detail now. I made the ultimate sacrifice. He made it sound like he stepped in and did something amazing but it sounds like you stepped in and ruin the team. No i did do something amazing. I bail those out of a bad spot. We had no goalie. Well how you'll help steph guys don't understand. We lost every game. Because i was playing my normal position which was attack. But you realize you'd have therefore we need scored you'd have this regular you literally no one in the go. It would be the equivalent of taking tom. Brady out of the quarterback position and making them a defensive back. I can't believe that you just confirm that you own eleven your senior. You're seeing you think it was one in ten but it could have been holding eleven. It wasn't pretty. I can tell you that nelson drew bledsoe. No tom brady. This guy's writing in eighteen. Thirty four is a lacoste player that you were own eleven year last year and one in ten year before your last year marine on everyone at all still great stu gods still great. Then were you. Were you indeed. Eight and thirty four records. I only know. I don't know the team records. I know the individual records. And i hold all of them as you've seen on the clark university website. We have valid at least that you know. I played goalie year. I will give you that. You've been bragging about that for close to a decade. What you've left out. Is that your team. Someone had to get. The numbers was apparently filled with disabled people. Yeah yeah it was. Of course you set all the clark. University records team was better than my guess is. If we look it up we will find that you were indeed and your college career as lacrosse player. Eight and thirty four. I think. I wanna say the record was slightly better than that because dan had six wins. Are i either five or six wins the first season. There's no way the final three seasons. I want one game that you just confirmed that your own eleven year last year one in ten the year before that it's coming very close to being possible. No no. I was there five years so i'm trying to. I don't know if i was one ten there. I tore it up. Had the red shirt year came back. I'm not certain of i was involved in the detect. I have to see a team picture. Because i failing it's gonna look like a telephone. It will you're right. you're going to be missing. It's gonna look like that or reunion of minesweeper twenty five no. It couldn't have been a freshman year the year we had maltese. Kyle turner all these guys in the top scores. That was a good team got. You can't say a team that was a career record. Senior team wasn't very good. Sounds like junior and senior year. Your combined record was one in twenty one. Something like that yeah. I'm not kidney hawk. When i say to you before this texter unearned a library of lie. God let me finish what i was saying. Lump air i asked you just flippantly just making conversation. How was the team pretty good and you said that is what he said pretty good. That's what he said. Why are you only remember. The one winning season allegedly. Because i don't have any proof it wouldn't compared to own eleven to and eight four-fifths just didn't have enough players just putting the other three years out of that texture hawks and the gifts he poured through the clark record reveal basically who is he. He some of sports great liars georgia leary with the lie on the resume. I never lied about the same guy. Who on nick nick. Saving kill you know. What in all honesty. He'd other than him saying flippantly that they were pretty good was off air. He didn't lie but he never has painted. Apparently completely insured val validate my individual cops. But new years okay. But they're validated. We finally have sabella dacian on it right because that would be like me saying by the way ninety six to ninety eight. I was the single greatest english language broadcaster history of my school. And then you find out that. I went to school in guadalajara. Guy we were. We were full six. That french glorious freshman year four switch which in nine you remember that. Now here's where we're gonna go. Your big season was bringing tribute. If we were doing into the fire for the stugotz lacrosse career. The season we'd be doing the documentary on the four and six year board six year. Now we were four and six freshman year under head coach john stevens who think i know until this day he's coaching baps it so i don't believe anything coming out john of tell the next three years combined we had four wins under new head coach. Jim cantrill it says fault coaching. Now do you. Do you want to read seven. Wanna redefined your career. At all right. He was eight and thirty four. Not at all. Because i was top ten in the country and score six. Three and seven wasn't honorable mention american. My sophomore year. I was player. Would oh and eleven that year top. Ten as you've seen now hawkeye of top ten in the school scoring points and goals. I'm pretty proud of it but it sounds like you let it literally sounds like you were able to body burson. Let pike. I really do picture guy with leprosy on the team. Eric can't play this weekend. His arm fellow schools. Look cornyn blue. The team pick your. Do you realize how great at got the monster athlete at five nine. Pm oh guy in a wheelchair you know. Who's the guy with a peg leg. There's people staring. Every which way at the camera expose otherwise scholar on that. Our university gave him an english degree. Anybody that needed a device you would go to value everything that's ever happened university. I'm sorry we'll tell you the whole story coming up next. I just can't believe. I can't believe the piece of investigative work done man. You know that team picture. There's a guy with a full body cast goalie. Guy says his arm and the all the way to his right totally. His body is totally parallel to the ground in perpendicular. Perhaps some minor guys one of those things that dog wears to prevent binding everyone to gods. Here let's take a minute for our friends over at draftkings. Draftking sportsbook is not only. My favorite sport spoke but also america's top rated sportsbook speaking of america. Our top athletes are over in tokyo. 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And apocalyptic and couldn't have been predicted across america and the world. But if i had told you a year ago just stopped you somewhere. Maybe a little more than a year ago and said listen. This is what you're going to have arrive on your doorstep about sixteen months from now cole beasley is going to do a distract and a rap album. That comes out against the vaccine. Is there anything crazier. That's happening across the world. Then cole beasley being arrogantly ignorant as there are a lot of people who are being all manner of ignorant for those of you coming after me. Because i was talking the other day about de'andre hopkins and how lonely it must feel to sort of press against the institution of football when you distrust football and the government the part about coal beasley. That is bothering me as someone who is waving this flag of ignorance is how arrogantly and defiantly he is doing it when all of his arguments can be knocked down and normally under normal circumstances cole beasley would be your type of guy. They hadn't but you have the moral conflict of being pro vaccine. And i did find it funny and some people did point out. It's like i understand where a sports show and de'andre hopkins is the the jump off point on a larger discussion and people know de'andre hopkins but it was curious that you decided to take that angle. Like what about the andre hopkins rights and this seems unfair when there are plenty people in america that are getting laid off if they don't take the vaccine as their employer is outlying like people that work in the medical field. What about them. Damn my only point as it regarded. De'andre hopkinson. I know some of you took it as a defense of the andre hopkins. I can't defend anybody who given the information that is now out. There is coming out against the miracle that science somehow produced against an invisible unprecedented thing to argue on the other side of this. My only point is it regarded. De'andre hopkins is how lonely. It must feel to try and believe these things in this particular climate. I had no other point there other than that. This was not in any way. It can't be defended mike. There is no defense. I can summon for anybody. Who at this point is being skeptical just for the sake of being distrustful and skeptical. I can't summon it for anybody. I just wanted to sort of put you in the position up how lonely it must be not just be deandre hopkins to be called beasley or any of these people like i don't know what co- beasley is fighting for. I really don't know what is so weird either. These guys is fighting for but you must admit they're doing it differently under hopkins at least is wondering we'll about his future in the nfl cold beazley's out here making this the reason for his name. This is what i'm going to associate kobe's bazeley with for the remainder of time. He's saying he's pro choice. He's making a freedom play and a liberty play. I understand skepticism. This is a pandemic the likes of which we've never seen an unprecedented miraculous. Vaccine that saving lives turned around and a time that we haven't seen. I understand people being concerned. Because i've never had new rush towards the vaccination site i get that but making it a liberty play touting your freedom on social media. I'm living my life really because i'm not getting this vaccine. As opposed to the people that get the vaccine and also enjoy their liberties very very clearly. I look at what's going on in the nfl and the list of rules Regulations for those that are vacs. That does not look like liberty to me. In fact ryan tannehill is out here telling you i flatly would not have been vaccinated. Were not for how rigid these protocols are in the nfl. And want that. I want to be there for my team. I wanna be able to use the facilities at the same time others are so i got the vaccine. I can't even imagine how the rest of the world given what is already a profound international anti-american sentiment must look at us when the vaccine cannot be gotten and we are as a country so dumb that we have a surplus of this miracle cure that is being avoided in a manner that is going to make all of the work and all of the sacrifice and all of the miracle undone a couple of mutations of the virus from now all of the last few months are going to be undone by an undercurrent of stupidity if people do not get vaccinated castles. We're just believable. Which is huge assholes because not that this would have been done with obviously vaccinated. people are still getting symptoms. Summer are still even with the vaccine. Even though huge amount of data suggests that the vaccine protects you from hospitalizations not that this would be in the rear view mirror. The hard part could have been over for this. You're seeing in tokyo. Japan a country that was being touted as how they responded to the corona virus initially only twenty two percent vaccination rate over there. There are people literally dying to get their hands on this vaccine and we have empty. Cvs i don't even want to know how much of this miraculous cure or at least defense we've just thrown away. We've had a away because it's been spoiled. We are headed honestly inevitably with a flabbergasting undercurrent of stupidity toward undoing. Any sacrifices that any people have made and undoing. Miracle work by science. Which i can't i want any of you sitting there out there right now to imagine you're confronted with an invisible disease. Go ahead without the help of science people arguing against science go ahead and figure it out after that go ahead as a as a race with no if you're anti-science without the help of science let's try and figure that one out individually. I don't even understand how we were able. Through american and world engine ruete to create a cure that we are now going to ignore so that we all have to go back inside in a few months. This thing mutates again. It makes you wanna scream. I understand why everyone listening to this would simply want to scream until they fell down and woke up when this was all over. You wanna do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it as it. Let's do it as let's scream and it's hell we fall down. Let's go ahead and do it safe.

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How To Attract Your Millionaire Self by Living a Success Based Mindset with John Malott

Healthcare Business Secrets

47:36 min | 10 months ago

How To Attract Your Millionaire Self by Living a Success Based Mindset with John Malott

"Welcome to the healthcare business secrets show where we interview industry leaders and break down exactly how they dominate markets. So you can learn from the best. And could w revenue w and beck and w time off in this episode. We're talking with john mallett. John is an entrepreneur and co founder of builder empire. An event in media company focused on educating and impacting the next generation of entrepreneurs. Now joan has quite an interesting backstory. And i'd love to share it instead of makes i think it's going to be more impactful that way But welcome to the show. John and give us some background on you. Sure with well. Thanks for having me. It's it's my pleasure to be here. I don't know. Are you sure you want me to go back. Backstory might have people tune out pretty quick. Like what is this guy doing on yourself and you really have downgraded. You really have gone down. It's interesting i don't have. I don't have all the things that society says you're supposed to have to be successful. you know. i don't have a college degree. I don't even have a high school diploma. So i'm really you're unlikely Business professional ceo whatever. I started off on the wrong foot when i was fifteen years old. It was my first felony arrests. Had i robbed the movie theater on fifteen years old which lead to incarceration in a juvenile detention facility for while and that kind of just put things in motion when i was released Something that we now know. In in the united states the crack epidemic hit our neighborhood. You know pretty hard because basically turning cocaine into a form to smoke and you know. I wanted to be the capitalist. I like the product too much. I found myself consuming this to the point at seventeen years old at heart attack from smoking cocaine. That was actually the beginning of the blessings. You know what seemed like the worst time of my life would seem like the biggest curse directly the biggest blessing. I end up locked in a facility but but now going through a drug rehabilitation program and it was in that program that i met a guy named dave. Dave was a former outlaw. Motorcycle gang member. And even the first guy that i can actually relate to the first guy who wasn't talking at me. He wasn't trying to preach to me. Wasn't just telling me what a loser i was out bad. I was never gonna amount to anything. Because that's basically what it had been up to that point but they really started. Talk to me. As if i could be something and i was like man i didn't know how am i gonna get on my neighborhood. These circumstances i. I had no idea and dave told me business. Dave sent businesses your way out and i kind of laughed. I'm like a businessman. I couldn't see myself in that light. Dave gave me a book called the friends influence people and it was the beginning of a personal development during that never ended the book holland when friends influence people was that seed that was planted. Took a long time for things to you know. Take take root for me. But that was the beginning. That was the beginning of Of me thinking okay. Well what if. I listen that led to the next book and the next book and it was the books that became my mentors. Those authors became metro. People hear me talking about certain people. As if i was hanging out with them i was hanging out with him every single day i was highlighting it ages in their books. Now it's internalizing stuff in a big way and kind of fast forward. My my last felony arrest. I was twenty four years old at this point. Though i have a daughter and i was being let out of my home in front of my child and i ended up in the milwaukee county jail. And what they call bullpen. What's not a great place to be. And it was a holiday weekend for us. So i knew i was going to be stuck in there for quite a while or well. Four days sitting on the floor in this dangerous horrible environment and it was on that floor in the bullpen. That i made a decision. That yes i was a loser. Yes i was a criminal. Yes i was all always things drug addict. You you take the adjectives. But if i get through this i was done. I was done being that first Focusing up to that point. I am one foot in a book and i had one foot in the hood. I had one foot. You know in personal development at one foot still hanging with the same people creating the same problems still doing the things i shouldn't have been doing and but the difference was coming out the drug we have coming out. I knew that i was wrong. You know it's different when i didn't know because it's just what we did in my neighborhood. It didn't really affect me so much. But it really it really wait on my psyche when i left that drug rehabilitation center and i was clean for nine months. Things we're really start moving my life and then i went back to kinda same environment. Same kind of stuff. It really weighed on me. Because now i knew i was messing up and that. What was the big game changer for me is that it was getting harder and harder for me to do the things that i used to be able to do with no problem. I couldn't do those things anymore. Or at least i now. I'm losing sleep over it now. It's it's becoming a major issue in my life so anyhow so that's kind of how you know. The foundation began. It was in that drug rehab also introduced business and leaving as an adult a pretty serious criminal situation that i was facing a finally getting through that. That's when i made the decision that it took me seven years from that point to finally crack one hundred thousand dollars a single year. Like i see people coming up today. And they're like six figures out the gate not man. I sucked so bad. But when i finally cracked the one hundred thousand dollar mark next year it went to two hundred twenty four thousand and it wasn't long for a million two million a quarter million dollar a month residual type income so but it was the process. I i tell people. My first years of fulltime entrepreneurial made four thousand dollars. I was the laughing stock in. You know it was brutal. It was brutal for that. That seven years of of just straight commitment to change in my life to becoming something better. People didn't believe in in america. We can be brutal if you've been watching the news you know we're hard on yourself. It's so they were not. They were not easy on the coming up the laughing stock of the towel. Some context as to where you are. Now what are you doing now with people and to give us some difference. My life now is dedicated to serving. In a lotta else fortunate. I had a great Incredible mentor biting fall. Jay meyer who became my personal mentors billionaire. Unfortunately he passed away a few years. Back with paul j. Meyer introduced me to the concept of of servant leadership written. I don't know how many books on on giving on leadership. So i learned a lot about that paying it forward. You know about whatever you're trying to get like. He was one of the first people early on that. Taught me like you know you want money. Well that's the very thing you're gonna have to give up you want time freedom while you're to give up some of your time. And he started teaching me different concepts that made sense. Because i was just waiting around to be discovered you know in some phase something great magical to happen for me and he really broke it down that i was going to have to get in the trenches and had another mentor. I came in my life early on by the name of jim. Rome and jim rome at such a big impact on again. I'm paying four on getting other people mix. You was a leader network marketing business that we're part of and he had an incentive to help me a lot of people not enroll today as tony. Robbins mentor in this. This great philosopher and yucky his best. The guy he was. But i didn't know i was sitting at the feet of greatness when i was at the feet of greatness. I knew the guy was really an annuity. Amazing things i didn't. I didn't quite understand how big of a deal was for me to have personal contact with him during those times but it shaped me so now my whole mission in life is to take young entrepreneurs that are down trotting been beat up the mentally messed up. Whatever it is whether it's from society or most of the time it's from our own thinking we messed ourselves up islam. Know that if i can get out of this situation you can get out. I lost my sister when she was twenty one years old to heroin overdose. My brother has been a heroin addict. Pretty much entire life in and out of prison and so one of the three of us you know have have completely transformed out lives in. It's really comes down to plug into personal development plugging into the right people getting into round the right associations and then focusing on becoming a leader focusing on you know i'm going i'm going to the top of the mountain or you're gonna find me dead on the side trying to get there. There is no other option. I'm not playing games. I'm not gonna sit around wallowing in my misery. And i'm not going to create misery for others but really now my passion is like i get a charge out of watching other people. You're in if. I can contribute to that in some way you know. It's a selfish thing for me now. You know to to help other people get to where they wanna go. Get a selfish pleasure satisfaction from it. And that's why do so build your empire ran a big brain. We're going through a transition. Over the last year of course coded messed up our ability to do events which you know we've been all over the world doing events and all that came to a screeching halt. But we're revamping the brand. Also the ceo of a company call snap active lifestyle which is a nutrition company that we're launching this month so i'm excited. I'm very excited about that. I love the play nutrition because it forces me to stay healthy it forces me to do things that i know are important which i believe it makes you a better business person in the long run about entrepreneur if if you're focusing on on your health because if you have no energy feel good it's hard to. It's hard to really crush it in business. You don't and i know you know this stuff because you you on a regular basis. You can't do anything yourself and then you'll say can lead being. A leader is leading by example to some regard. Because why would you follow someone like. It's really hard to listen to a personal trainer. Who's who's not fit of the new like they need to be this element of you looking up to them right. You got your business coach if you broke not want to follow you because what are you learning to kind of need to keep pushing ourselves. But ironically by doing that we end up better anyway and we achieve more than four tracks to us. I just wanted to mention a couple of points that you mentioned because he sits a really good stuff. I feel like too many of us. Just half off everything you know what i mean like. We're not all the way in. And i think that's the big difference between those who are successful in those who are not not dipping your toe in you fully immersed because when you're missed if you get thrown in a poll and you're gonna drown you either drowned. Will you swim. And if you really want it you'll swim. You'll figure it out you stop you'll hold your breath you'll float man. If i relax. I can figure this thing out and i can get there too many of us we telling the war to me freak out or when we jump in and we are a missed. We're not looking at the outcome enough. You know what i mean like. We don't have this clear picture. And i hated. This is what i want to achieve. And i think that it comes from like you said at mindset right like everyone wants to strategy i wanna make a million bucks. So what business. I'm going to join. What in malaysia gonna join like. I'm going to start selling whatever versus going. Hang on mindset. I my state been my outcomes and then my strategy follows and tony robbins teaches this stuff. And i'm a huge advocate of that. But i think you're living proof that that works. What do you think people who do that. What do you think they half. What do you think they fully immerse. What do you think they. They strategy man. That's that's the million dollar question right there because you hear people giving lip service all the time to you all time. I wanna be a millionaire. I want this. I want that. I want a great body. I want to be healthy. And everything's in front of us to do that. You know all the formation for all that you're like you said the strategy for building. A business is out there. You can find it. It's everywhere the strategy for building a healthy body. It's out there. And so why is it that still no matter how you look at still such a small percentage of people that actually crushing that actually go out there and lead i go into neighborhoods. You know similar neighborhoods to those that. I grew up in teach young people that look. It's not hard to win in a race that you're competition is even running. They're not even trying. You know so all you gotta do is get in the game and just focus in and you don't get caught on very early on. Was something called a slight edge. Philosophy is the. I thought that was some leg. Some magical secret that certain people had and i just didn't have that secret or maybe you grew up in a certain neighborhood in. There was his magic dusk while money was a different kind of dust. But we will talk about that. But you know i thought that it was it was mystical and then i was introduced to mentors and said look The slight edge is real simple. it's simple disciplines practice every single day compared to simple errors in judgment every single day. So that's the difference between success and failure is those that go to the top. They don't necessarily go the top overnight when sometimes it looks like that if you haven't followed there is like i said seven years for me to even get any kind of traction people didn't see that every day i i made a commitment i would read at least fifteen pages of a good book every single day no matter what and that became sometimes of course you'll pick up a book and i spent hours in that book and you know same thing with health. It's not the one. Mcdonald's big mac that kills you. It's a combination of those over a period of time. You know it's it's eating bad day in and day out consistently messes you up. The difference between a twenty year old to twenty year olds one eating a big mac when the salads staying active they'll look much different in their twenties but there's a certain point where the separation starts to really happened. That's when you see it then you'd think one got lucky or they have good genes or some. You know the things we use the justify our our own failures and the reality is no like me at a certain point. I shut it all down while. My friends brought up the nightclubs. My friends at the beach. I was in person about the book. i'm studying. You know the great entrepreneurs. I'm study in the the great philosophers the the people that shake the universe go. That and i was like okay. Well how do you become rate. So i said well all of a sudden. They told me there's books written stuff that get me a shortcut on there. And so i started reading about these people and i'll say okay and almost every single time on that it didn't happen overnight. They know the people. I respect the most. Were not the overnight successes. You know what. I mean they were. There was a process now. Social media lead you to believe that people one day they wake up and they got lamborghinis rolls royces in the garage and everybody's making gazillions of dollars but when you start to dig through all the nonsense you start to realize that. That's not the reality of the situation. I think a really good point you made is that encouraged to build on that shifting your mindset to align with what you're trying to achieve and if i was to ask you the question like would the successful version of yourself believe about everything and then you look at it and you think well right now you might believe are who you know reborn the color of your skin. You gotta be male or female or whatever these beliefs that keep you back so if it was possible that that wasn't true what possibly could you believe right. And she's start shifting out. I did this with clients. It's like what could you possibly believe about your current situation. The current advantages. You have the ways you could look things. What would that that millionaire vision of yourself. Believe about opportunity and things like that. They're probably believed things. Like strategy is everywhere. I can do it right and that subtle shift over time. Actually aligns you to be able to receive it. Because was successful. people enough gathered from the books. I've read in interviews of dan. And my own successes. Ironically get to this point and we all start saying the same things. Which is anyone can do it. And it's about mindset and blah blah blah. And but when you're not there exactly what i'm talking about when you looking from the outside and it's like bullshit none of don't mind it you've got it easy you know someone strategy and it's like sure right. I might know someone now but the reason that it's even happening is because of all the mine stuff and so when you get there and you look back and you know what actually got. Got me that success. it's not the tactics. it's not the strategy. it's the willingness to keep going. It's the spending tens of thousands of dollars in coaching programs. Learning one or two things and pivoting to the knicks. Not giving up not half fast fully immersing myself giving up friday nights. I got up at four. Am eighteen months with a brand new baby. Still a doctor and a clinic with five practitioners in managing everything and bony coaching program. Because i wanted it. You know what i mean. It was like this is what i want. And so what would i have to do. An think and believe and act to achieve that thing and so i just shifted myself whereas most of us. We want that shortcut. Because we don't really want the thing we want what we think the thing will get us. That's why when you ask a million bucks like none. You don't want a million dollars like it's pointless if you were in the forest but you hit a million dollars in the back you you'd be burning to keep yourself warm like a million dollars right. But at least the second thing that one percent improvement it's either an improvement or it's a one percent regression or whatever the opposite is right like if you're eating bigs you're only getting one percent that very quickly adds up one percent of negativity very quickly adds up until you depress the hating life and blaming everyone and just the one percent social improvement positively focusing on what you want to achieve and reading and looking at. How can i prove myself. Most of us are not willing to understand that it takes time and that it will get there like you go to the gym right. Go back to the jim really hard recently. And i'm looking at it and immediately my brain wants to be like yo. Can i fast trick or even you know. I'm not getting the results. I want default around us and you just shut up and go. Well you know what. Let me. Just forget about it. It's just go and absolutely forget about the outcome and just enjoy the process. I will wake up as that overnight. Success of suddenly looking really good because i will forgotten about the six months two years whatever it took to get to that point because i just missed my south and enjoying the process. It's interesting it's very. it's very interesting you know. It is the mice. I i remember. I didn't take responsibility for anything. You know back. Then that was that was one of the big shifts. That happened for me. Like i blamed everybody. I blame the police. I blame the teachers. I blame my dad blamed. Everybody i couldn't and it wasn't until i had some mentors that had some you know real strength thing said no dummy up blaming everything and everybody and then you start taking responsibility. Then you'll start to see the shifts in your life. And i see today. It's very difficult especially places where people are locked down there. They're digesting negative news negative information. It looks like the whole world stocks. Were all we all hate each other. I mean that stuff just way so deep on your psyche and it creates a cycle of negativity and then of course. It's easy to blame and say look okay. Well i see a bunch of people are doing really well and so they must have had some type of advantage. They must have had an in some cases they have. But that's not always the case you know. I've got a lot of very very wealthy friends. That came from nothing in horrific circumstances. That through the the shaping of their mind transform their mind. I one of my mentors said to be says look man because i was like how am i going to be the business person and look. I can teach anybody business skills. I teach anybody business skills you you you pick a topic and business teach the skills that are necessary to open a business. Start a business run. A business grow business blah blah could teach anybody business fields but he said i can't teach everybody the thing that you now and i was like. What does that he said. You have six cents. You came up in in circumstances at that other. People didn't come up in. You know you know when someone's trying to get over on you. You had to watch your back in in situations that other people never had experienced. There's an advantage to that for you and business. Now whether you use that announced gonna be up to you and so it was. It was things like that that were being planted in my head that i didn't believe right away but oh that's interesting but over time you start to hear that enough now. A new set of program. He's coming here. The whole program was like john's a loser. John's socks and i believe that the acted that way. But then i was getting around people that really saw the world differently in because they saw the world differently they saw me in the world and what i could accomplish in the world differently and they started telling me these things and all of a sudden at some point things started to click for me like okay when i started to believe it when i started to believe that i control my future that i controlled my destiny. Then that's then. I woke up every day with intent with perkins didn't matter like the elections going on right now and you know i just wanted to be over with because it's derailed so many people in our country but for me. I'm getting up doing the same stuff. You're going to get up tomorrow morning. And i'm gonna go crush you. That's just my mindset. I don't care. I don't care who the president united states is. I didn't care who the president was last year. I didn't care. The last election made no difference to me. They're not coming to my house to drop off bags of money. You'd be it's i'm gonna have to figure it out one way or the other and if i you know go crush it i wanna drive in this world. I've got to do it. No one else can do it for me. And i think that's where the fight is right now. Even in our political system is like people are pointing at someone else to somehow make their life better and that's on both sides in just never going to happen. You're going to be frustrated for years from now when we're in the next election it's just the way it is looking outside yourself for. The answer is is only gonna leave you unhappy because ultimately no one has it and even if they do have it. You probably not going to actually do it well enough to get a result and then you blame them because it's it's easy to blame someone else like they've done studies if someone is running late to something and you ask them. Why are you late. They will externalize. The reason The bus driver this that if you ask someone why was dave late right. They'll say. Dave didn't get up early now dave's lazy dave blunt. So when there's a problem and someone else we blame the person when the problem and it affects us. We blame everyone else except for ourselves. Because it's painful to do that. Because here's the things in my view if you do blame yourself and then you change it and everything changes for the better. That's had as a hot told us to go shit. I've done the wrong thing for ten fifteen years right like it's like a hard thing i've done the wrong thing for the last ten fifteen years and that sometimes too hard for people to do i notice that with my clients have been changing things and they start getting different results and they get to the point where it's like man. If i keep going with us. I'm going to achieve what i want but in doing so i have to accept that i had been the cause of much struggles before and so some of them can't heck it and they go back to doing because it's too hard to face others power on and they get the result and i liken it to someone instagram. I don't know who it was but it was really good. It was about having a goldfish in a duty tank. Now do you mitigate the fish or do you change the water we would logically change the water. And then maybe medicaid if we needed to and you'd need finalists medication 'cause you now not competing with the bad environment but we do in our own lives again because we can't self reflect free while most of us is we want to try and self medicate. Just go well. This is just how it is because it's just how it is house always been how it's going to be in. The future. visits jumping it as a clean pond over there. What if i did something and jump over there. Because they are going to die unhappy or i might die getting that pawn but transferred. I'm going to get to the way that i see it. As two choices you either begin to pump in fresh water. I e bringing people around you to push out the negativities or you select yourself from the negativity and you focus on building yourself up and by doing so you become clear of them clean of them and it opens up space for more people into your life because too many times we cling to people who are not supportive of an off head. This friends family parents. That's the hottest if it's an acquaintance you can get rid of them but if it's your family it feels like you're stuck but i'm a massive believer in you have to shift who's around you. No matter what otherwise you will stay at the highest of. Who's around you. You know what i mean. Everyone's broke you will be at that level everyone's unhappy. You'll be as happy as the happiest person that you're around and if they're happy then you're not getting happy it's so true you know it's it's I loved the book thinking rich. It was one of the foundational books for me. I didn't get it at first. I read that book so many times and in the book he talks bodies says look the number one reason why so many have so little and so few have so much. She said the number one reason is because we listened to our family and friends. You'll think about them for a second that the biggest reason for us failing the biggest reason for us not getting what we need to go is basically environments. Because i struggled so much with people with bad energy you know. I can't be around for very long because for whatever reason i'm kind of a magnet to whatever the environment is and that's why when i'm going to bad environment i fit in pretty well i become negative. I'm bad pretty quickly. So i i caught on very quickly that i have to get myself out of those environments. I want to wake up in the morning. And i want to have positive energy because that sets the tone for the rest of my day and so you know it could be a family member. That doesn't have that same energy that that morning and some heart realized man my has been off all day long and it started from what happened that warning and so you have to guard that today you have to protect that in a lot of ways in unfortunately a lot of people allow in their in their own home. And you can't really get you ain't got through every day you go to bed every night and that's a tough deal and it's hard to tell somebody that look man you're all spouses killing your own. Family members are keeping you from where you wanna go. I'm amazed you'll because we will offer a lot of opportunities to people so we always have affiliate programs ambassador program. You know things that people can participate. Our and i'm amazed how often someone will hit us back and say i wanna go crush this thing but my negative spouse doesn't believe he doesn't believe or she doesn't believe they don't live do with it and it's crazy to me because i cannot picture myself if anyone of my family comes causes me and they got something they're excited about. I'm gonna be like okay. But what i might ask you. Check the point people product process. You know because. That's what i do. But if they're excited i'm like i'm with you. I'm excited fourteen. How can i participate. How can i help. How can i buy buy something whatever. And it's made me how quickly people in our family shut us down and create this bad energy around us and then what we did. We just easier sometimes rather than fight that you know disease easy. Just kinda give up. Then we end up in the status quo comfort zone. We're not really happy. But you know we're we're not dying necessarily either. Maybe sometimes i i. I just knew i always had to be in an environment that was happening and environment that had speed that energy. There's positively for me without that. I'm in trouble man i. I'm so chrome to bad behavior. I'm so prone to depression things like that. It shows up quickly man. And i know i know weaknesses are so i avoid situations you know just like i know. I know what drugs at my fears with drugs. I know what happens. I get around drugs. So what do i do like to stay away from us. Iran waiting people in environments that. That's where i would be myself from. You know destroy myself in the end. I can't blame them. You can't blame the drug dealer in the end it comes back to me. you know. i'm the one who made the purchase and and we're all doing it in one form or another hundred percent. The interesting thing with that is that neutral status quo containment is actually far more dangerous. Because if it's going downhill you get to rock bottom and at some point you you wanna make shift like i feel like some of us a really tough and can deal with a lot of lot of crap before we get there but i feel like we do like inevitably you get to some point if you'll regressing and most of us have feeling of light we need to do something about it and that's where i like people to be because then they actually feel the reality. You know what. I mean like if your house is on fire but there's not that much smoke coming in. You will live with until you start coughing. Then you wear a mask and you keep livin and get more and more used to it but if there is that fires the smoke is there and it's big and it's obvious affecting and you can't just kind of brush away that's when suddenly this change that happens like should i go to get out of this but it's that slow been is that one percent. We talked about one percent worse of a time. You get used to it. The bullfrog right doesn't know it's boiling starts in cold water. And i think sometimes we need to accept that things are not good and look and remind ourselves how bad it is so every day i wake up and if things are not going well i don't go well. You know what. I could just be happy than everyone else like would be better off than everyone else by staying the same because i could. I could retire and live very well forever. Compete soup most of my family mostly around me. But i don't want to do that because that sailing will kill me a lack of progress of growth. I will die. And i get depressed. I get into just like you're talking about. But also i want to achieve more on create legacy so what i do is i. I tell myself how good this is. How painful this is that. I haven't achieved that thing. I'm not beating myself up and instantly the voice of my head says you know james you've got to and this is not my voice but other voiced your balance james you got to you know be content and happy with what you got. I'm not saying that. I'm not at all but what i'm saying is that i want more and so i remind myself of white. Contentment is the enemy of progress. And so i love where i'm at and i'm okay with that on negative thing this will people don't get and you might get this as well. You sounded absolutely obsessed with what you do. Which is what. I am as well and people who are outside that they just don't get it. You don't understand the obsession. They think it's need balance. Yeah it it. You know. I i i like i like when i have some balance in my life but i realized the only time i a balanced my life. It's an after. I've gone through a crazy period of you know balance where i'm running real hard for particularly and i get that way even with you know when it comes to my house. Sometimes i'll go way over the top when it comes to my health and fitness. And it's like i'm focused like crazy. I've got some bold. I'm really goal oriented. So if i got. Some bills are on health and fitness. I may seem kind of fanatical. Because i'm trying to get those goals but the same thing in business it just. It's no different than i told you all time when i was a drug addict i never missed a night of getting high. You know what i mean. It wasn't oh it's night. I'm gonna take the night off no no tuesday night. I'm getting high getting thursday. I didn't have any money. But somehow i found a way to feed that addiction. One way or the other. I was getting high in what happened for me is shifted. We all have it inside of us. There's something that drives us were built for this stuff. We're building make things happen. We're built for purchase for progress and just shifted that same energy from you know getting high to my pursuits in business. You know i went after my goals in business with the same relentless. You know i will not be denied type attitude that i'm gonna i'm gonna make it happen the other and that's i think people discount what happened side of them. They discount the power that they possess that the things that look we create the things that we want. You know you wanna live in a big house and if you if you become obsessed with living in the big house guess what's gonna happen. I have tattoos all over me. Obsessed legacy stuff is lived this stuff and i realized you know how tricky is. When i won the big house. I took all of my energy all of my resource. Everything i had around the big. And i'm telling you it was. It wasn't long. You know maybe twenty four months. Before i had one most people would consider a big house and then of course later on you discover that else's you know there's much bigger houses an in and it wasn't long when i got obsessed with the next level and you know and then we end up on top of the mountain in a super house. But but i remember looking back to where i began you know. I was thrown purposes homeless. Because i was locked in facilities and stuff. You know someone else's houses into go from that to that it's it's only because the just wasn't someone didn't say john here's the house. I'm getting his house. There was all these steps all these things that have an all the negative and all the the band vines and all the stuff that people said in the rocks being thrown all that to get through all that to get to that house and might help you know. Be careful what you wish for because you just might end up getting it. There's a price to pay for all of it. So i realized later on because my obsession was for money when i really believe money was the reason why we have so many issues when i was young growing up in house. I thought it was money. Money these same issues now but had later on you. Discover that money's not you got money but you still got the same issues you gotta you gotta transfer the mindset. Now let's say give bad person. Money got worse person. Money only magnifies what you already are so we have really become something to become worthy of leading other people are businesses. Later on depends so much on other people and then developing s people said we got really good at developing other people focusing all of our time and energy on on you on what you want. It doesn't have to be a big outs. You want more time with your family. You want to be asian whatever it is. Then let's together figure out how to get that for you. When we started focusing on other people's success then man that data just exploded you know it was like we would make a million but the team would make ten million we can team would make one hundred million and that and that became the age even with our new company that we're launching again this month. Old snap active lifestyle that companies were building from the field up into how most companies are built from the company. Down we're all focused. We won't judge the success of the company based on how much revenue the company brings in. We'll judge it based on. How many successful people we have inside of the community so we shifted a little bit and we focus there and all of a sudden things happen. I believe it's part of the laws of the universe. This is the way it was set up to be. those laws are constantly. Working it just. Are they working for us or against us. Know i i heard. General used to talk about the law gravity. It's always working even if you don't believe in the law of gravity just step off the roof of your house. One time and the law grabbed these are always working with you realize it or not and we have laws when it comes to leadership. We've lost when it comes to success that laws when it comes to money walls and it comes to attracting the right things in your life. So there's laws run all this and we really got good. I'll tell you about that on the back but we had a lot of great people around us to start a teach these these laws of attraction and how to bring this stuff into your life in it in the end. It's not that complicated. And i think that's why some people it's hard to believe you know i was. I was on a call with one of our friends out of germany. I did a podcast yesterday. For guy germany. Got a big thing going on there. And i talked about this stuff. I'm like look there's genius in simplicity. I i'm i'm everything i did. Matter of fact. I did the one hundred million dollar academy for my friend. Dan fleischmann last night. And i taught on the rule of three. I got like three steps for almost everything. I do know fancy footwork. Nothing crazy i got. I don't have big words. I don't have a lot of technical stuff. But i got three steps for everything that i'm trying to make sometimes for but i try to stick with three simple easy for me to remember. And that's what built everything for us. And then i could duplicate that yet. That the scale and when things start to scale that's all of a you're everyone was like man. He got lucky now. Will we paid attention to what the process was and we were working with the laws instead of against the malls or fighting fighting it all the time like now you're fighting. Those are tuned into this election. Right now in our giving up time of their own lives to see what's happening every five minutes. I got admit to noon from time to time to. But there's some people that they're obsessed. I don't know what's taking time away from you and it's going to weigh on people citing all time. Lucky is is broke. Language broke mindset. Broke in your wallet. Lucky is like he's a cop out. And i hate it when people say it's like it's not lucky. There's no luck you you create luck but you you're creating it through your actions because things like you said there. Things are just working. And it's your perception of the mr whether they positive or negative. I'm teach a nineteen month old son moment and teaching him this because we're starting to realize that people around us and even ourselves you have this conditioning for example. If it's raining it's like oh no. It's raining that simple statement. Means raining is negative. And therefore you can't have fun and therefore you can only enjoy yourself when the sun's out now how many people around you know that only enjoy themselves when it's sunny and when the weather's bad they're like i feel like this and blah blah blah. The with is not good. And so i'm not good. The weather's the with it's got nothing to do with how you feel you just choosing to feel like that suicide of shifting our languaging and so everything is oh wow because we we noticed how south saying on is that he started saying oh no reigning super cute eighteen months on raining and now i'm training. It's oh wow raining and helping realized that in each circumstance there is opportunity raining means. you can splash. Raining means you can run and slide on the grass. Sunny means you can go to the beach. Sunny means you can go outside and play in the dry. Each has an opportunity and it's different but whether it's good or bad is completely your perception of it and too many of us allowed the extent to influence us. And and something that i live by that you should only put weight on the advice and the things you hear from people who have to live the outcome so if someone's telling you dunk investment property or don't do this we'll do do this. Do they have to live with the outcome. No see shouldn't probably listen to most of what they're saying. Especially if it's not supporting the narrative that you have in your head about what you want to achieve. Because if i talked to my family about building and property the tell me all these things that are they gonna crash in this and this and that. But they don't have to live with the outcome i do. I have to live with investing not investing. So i'm gonna find someone that supports what i'm trying to do. And as invested in something similar to live with the outcomes of their decisions. And i'm going to be lifted that because otherwise we voices are hit and including our own. That doesn't support us now. I'm conscious of your time. What some technical stuff people can do this week to start shifting some of their mind. Because i know that a lot of us are struggling with the election and the economy and blah blah blah. All these things that are out of control but we make it in fuss sorts of technical stuff. You can do shift that some things. I've always done for me like you. You subscribe tony robbins. Like i do. I love la. Tony robbins stuff. He talked a lot about changing your state in a couple of ways to do that and one of them is is physical movement. Like when i know like my state is changing a little bit. I'm getting down a negative up. In for me. I live in arizona where the sun shines three hundred days out of the year so when it rains like yes rain it's a different different mindset but i get i'll take a walk outside and son don't mess with the own but all electrons down all of a sudden i start to come back jump around a yellow little bit. You know so stuff like that to do. Some when i when i found out like immediate ships you can make the worst thing i can do is put on netflix. And go lay on the couch that then it just goes into that cycle. Reading for me is always a big one. As well and i tell people united subscribe to the slight edge philosophy. So i'm always trying to get at least ten fifteen pages of good book in. It opens things up for you creativity. I got great friends. I'm connecting with that are very like minded and so just picking up the phone because you know we're always texting in dm and stuff so it's nice to pick up the phone. Have the conversation. And you know my life and i will will cook dinner together and you know. Just just try to get engaged in a human way rather than electron man. Can i think our bring a lotta people. Down are leading to a lot of depression. A lot of challenges in in america. I think we're the largest consumer prozac depression bill and it's like man. There's a lot here. We got lot wealthier everyone. Everyone's got a nice car. Even some of the poorest people here have cars have cell phones. i mean. I'll or it's not like four and we got people. I know people that that are millionaires and depressed every single day which blows away and we also practice gratitude. We wake up every morning and in we discuss. We have the three things that were grateful for. You know i am grateful for this. I'm grateful that in my life. And i don't talk about things that i'm great about her. And so we go back and forth with that stuff it look some of it. Sounds corny and weird but it it it shifts your mindset works is a different frame it really does and it affects everything man. 'cause you know again if my my mental isn't right it's hard to get my physical right in if the mental isn't right. It's hard to get my financial right. My met does not right. I can't get my spiritual right relation. All this stuff is connected to it so in the end you're right you. Don't you have to be intentional on what you're allowing in here on on what you're allowing yourself because again i'm my worst enemy. It's usually me. That's the biggest problem but You know i. I take something from someone else. I allow that to mass. Need up not getting better and better. It's taking me fifty years to get to a point round now started. Allow that stuff out. But you have to. You have to guard that or or everybody's gonna be pissing in your ear. Mandate always going to be throwing negatively at you in finding ways to bring you down and you said about. It's like if you're saying. I'm lucky you're basically counting yourself. You're basically saying you know you're justifying that you're not gonna have these things they'll do these things because somehow i got it magically lucky charm you showed up in year it so that that scares me i never say. I'm lucky even if it's at the cost of see it's hard when people around you know cheating things in a feeling on negative and things and you don't want to kind of come in there and crack on the parade with you'll positively how mazing things i but i will never discount the work that i put into things and if they say oh you lucky eating so well and it's not luck and sometimes half hours to here and i know that there are people that don't talk to me as much because i don't panda to how they're feeling about things but i don't believe in luck. I believe that we create really positively and negatively and And we have to be responsible for that. If i'm unhappy it's my fault because i i didn't do the things that i should have done to make me feel good and and if i'm if i'm winning it's my fault because i did do the things that got me there and so discounting yourself is the worst where after you can discount yourself to you know what i mean you can discount. Say well i was born like this. My life was hard. I was grown up in this area. And that's bullshit because those things might be influences but equally you can go down a different route if you choose to because millions of cases of people just like yourself. I don't discount someone that comes from a rough environment or these. I'm like yeah for sure. But i guarantee i can and she'll some. I can show you someone just like you with similar. Circumstances are made even worse that came up in our living their dreams today so so it's all it's all talk. It's all bs we're allowing ourselves to stay stuck and we and we deal with it in a big way here in the states. It's very interesting you know. Some of us are considered privileged. You know others are not in like we're in this race right now. To see who's circumstances are worse. We're all it's like the big thing. I'm in worse shape than you are. I'm worse than you worse than you. And it's like this big negative spewing everywhere it's like my goodness. How did this come from and how this happened. It looks like i offer supposed to be moving forward progressing. You know creating better things in casper other people but instead we're all like knee meet. Look for me. Let me show you. How terrible for me in you know in. It's his office their fault. It's the government's fault and it's like man i. It seems like it's very widespread if you watch the media and i don't know what you're seeing in new zealand but it's gotta look interesting but in the end when i get out of that global when i get out of the media and social media bubble and i get around my friends and ravin dinner. It's not like the affiliate like the law but it's certainly appears to be that way as soon as you get back on the electronics. And it's like whole my goodness what's happening to the world. Now we can now audience connect with you online The best places instagram. At john jay. 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Backstory Episode 8: Polyanna the Cheerful Nurse

The War for the Tower

1:14:14 hr | 5 months ago

Backstory Episode 8: Polyanna the Cheerful Nurse

"So this is the war for the tower April is is new to this whole thing april. Welcome to the show. You jeff. i'm going to have a lot of questions for you. But i am excited to jump in. Okay perfect well. The way i like to work is we have a bit of a format. It's pretty flexible. So if you have give me one question like right off the top. I have one ultimate that i picked out but i don't have a second one i just have one. Okay cool. will that will be pretty late in the process. I will do a few like just a broad Things about the world and like the format of the show and then. And then yeah. We'll get into the character. She i decided it was seth we looked at the character sheet and like we went kinda top to bottom on the right side of the page and then we get to old two minutes and then we went up to like gear and then finally ended with the appearance carfax. I think that'll work here yet. Do you wanna give us a hint. Like what the listener has has coming off. Stay tuned listener. I sure do. I was thinking you know i can sort of play with any character from all of fiction all time to really who would be better to plunge into an eternal war then a pollyanna from the. I think it's like a nineteen sixty's film. Jeez cheerful young orphan who always sees the best side in everything and because of sort of her age in place in time for a few years and she could go on to be a very cheerful nurse in world. War one The war to end all wars. So that's sort of where. I'm starting out with her because she has you know this spirit and this like verve for life and anyone. Who doesn't she will sort of dragged kicking and screaming with her into into an appreciation of life. So yeah yeah. I'm a fan. It's just what the squad needs at this pivotal moment in history. So let's see What are your impressions of the system. Overall space kings developed bank kevin cole. It seems really cool. I really liked. I loved ice. But i'm really excited about the cards mechanism. I think there's something really fun that happens when you can sort of see a dwindling pile of chances or failure rice like i think that is a really neat game design It also seems very flexible. In terms of how you can sort of a range of checks of any time. So like i've i've mostly played Pathfinder dnd five year i. I'm i haven't played it but i'm like a little bit familiar with the apocalypse system but i think this seems like a good way where you can sort of step people out to be very good at some things not at all good at other things and play with it and really fluid way. There's real dynamic qualities to this game. I think I think partially because kevin designed it to be played with up to sixteen players like party. And so you'd be like drinking a beer and then you'll be like oh my character. Does this thing. And then you to flip some cards and like you know zany ensues or whatever but The the highs and lows are very exciting. Yeah yeah and like you know i. I think i've mentioned my dice collection before but not everyone is inclined to that or wants to do that or wants to go. You know shout. Whatever the six or seven bucks for your intro Seven die kit. So i like the cards is a mechanic. I think that's really clever. Because most people no matter what level of Interest they having games probably gonna have a deck of cards somewhere in their house so totally. Yeah i was trying to think like normally everybody has their own deck. But i was thinking if you have enough players and you're like a table or whatever like team could just have one deck Bet that would probably work just as well or pash. The death past the deck. Like all i can think of his passing via the conch shell from lord of the flies. But that's probably not the right thing for past the flipping stick. Yeah that's the one. Actually that makes me think of like designing a fire game like what he of game around the fire. Pit bonfire games like this would be good for that. Right like Yeah like i could play if you were like out camping or just out in it like a backyard up bullshitting yeah. Yeah yeah bonfire games. Put that on the list Feel like you need to be careful you play of on fire game with because you may end up actually like like i know a few folks who've you were like yes. Let us introduce a game mechanic near this fire. That would become part of the game mechanic and ask that does not a stable are p make especially if you get you get character sheet set on fire. Yes there's that problem and then there's also the like tipsy person to to rule where if you're going to stand up to role play you gotta step away from the fire but maybe you could have like like Not skill points like you have a thing and you only have a certain number of one and so when you're going to use it's like actually made of wood or paper and you like throw it into the fire like i have used this thing that'd be good. Get some like flash paper things like burn up really so it's like a magic acts like basement. Yeah that's like a critical hit in some games. I'm gonna pull up the character sheet and we could just get right into it Let's see are there any Any format questions. Oh we didn't say who you are and like tell us your name and like what would you do that sort of stuff well. My name is april pag I actually work for a organization that does candidate education for people who to run for office. and in terms of like role playing games. I think i've been playing for bow seven years. Now yeah about seven years. We had a regular dame night at a friend's house and then one day they were like. Hey there's this thing. Called pathfinder do you have any interest in it. I was like sure. Let's try it And i played a character. I did not know what i was doing. Our d. m. did not know what he was doing. He was a very bad But he did get me into role playing And since then. I've hopped around to a few other games including a excellent one shot. Run by our own jeff. Richardson very very fun And then i guess. I'm now on a twitch stream The bad joke stumbled right into it does like boom. Hey apparently will is is putting us on the stream. Oh yeah yeah be hilarious and like have a great team report laura. Yeah will start with me. W. i l. start with knee and he also has a great elm. He does a lot of art on channel. And it's very very talented and just has like chill drawing time with good music when he's not you know broadcasting us on tuesday nights at seven pacific time Not good time. It's a fine time. That's why it's such a good group. And then and now jeff has roped me in here so here i am. Oh and you got to. I mean it's the only way to get into the war for the tower is by being rope. We've caught you. Move along little doggy with the strands of fate. So i pulled up the editor bull space kings character sheet here and i'm just for my records. I'm gonna make your character along as we describe it so like we did with seth. Let's go top to bottom on the right here What's your character's name. I think we already know. Pollyanna and player is april. What do you call the concept. Cheerful world war one nurse outlet now below. This is attributes assigned seven dots at character creation. So every attribute starts one. And then you build onto it. So i think i think charms gonna be up there right. Yeah so. I thought through this a little bit and came out with some numbers That i thought sort of reflected this character with maybe just a little bit bumped up. So i don't like immediately dying combat But so i put charm it max so added into their. I put presents. I two points into presence two dots and then each into wit an agility. Okay okay so you're like a normal person. Physically like can get knocked out pretty easily. Yep year deal is like staying out of battle that's survive. Yeah my five is more like talking to people. I realize this is probably the second third time in a row. I've tried to make a character. That's essentially just who i am in the world with. You know a bit of exaggeration but it seemed to set and it seemed to fit her. Especially of course as you know at the end of pollyanna she like falls out of a tree and is carolina's But then they're gonna fix it. Yes sixties movies. Just like went there immediately. It was wild. Oh yeah no. They didn't fuck around so we have to figure out how she was. No longer paralyzed. Did she like worked for years to like rebuilt her nerves or something. He had an operation and they fixed it. Oh so it must not have been paralyzed paralyzed. Must've been like impinged. Yeah flake movie stuff. It's like they they they. She was like she couldn't walk for just long enough to be sad and have the whole town whose spiritually raised like come and raise her spirits and then she got back like and then she was okay. And then someone's like oh but surprises like we can do a surgery. You'll be fine like what's wild. Is this movie. I think we're setting like nine thousand nine hundred ten so legitimately. The surgery might being more dangerous. Whatever condition was because. I'm not sure if that to the point where they believe that like germs. Were thing but was fine. So for this for our purposes here then. We'll just say that she worked really hard to get her feet and she had nurses that like helped her and they inspired her to become a nurse young. Yeah i think so. I think like she is a person who saw what was happening in the war Because it was a pretty rough time and thought that if there was anyone who needed Good cheer a helping hand. It was the brave soldiers fighting on the front And so she lied about her age and enlisted as a nurse. Good deal okay. So your health is three out. You are injured at to an unconscious at one down below. That are the vital stats. There's initiative dodge drive and crit and so initiative is your agility plus your presence five and then dodges agility plus wit minus two two two so basically what that means is You can take away to damage at some point in the session at ya which you'll probably do because have three months so dr is wit plus presence so that gives you five and then crit is if you get a queen of hearts. That's one times your charm four so that's four plus one so if you ever get a queen of hearts it counts as five rule. Five successes and will explain what successes are once we get into the whole deal so for skills you get your intelligence plus two and those are your practices. It's like you know sort of good and then everybody gets to mastery. Which are like. You're really good at it. Okay so tell me. What your practices are that you chose and then we'll go onto master. He's gonna get two or three of those. I get three right three okay. So that that's sort of an area that i was having a little bit of question about i was thinking survival would probably be a good one As a practice. I was thinking about investigation. Ooh girl detective. Yeah and like babe firearms. But that i was like i like wake. It would make sense if she knew to fire a gun because you know she in world war one. But i would love to know how a medical workers women like how they were trained like. Would you have been trained in athletics or I don't know computers. Whatever i mean if by computers you mean like weaving fact sort of the foreign right in thought point but probably in athletics like i think captain america. You had to be like fit of body to enroll in the army So maybe i would be good. Maybe biology would be good as well. A nurse should have the unless. That's one of your master. He's okay. And then i imagine your mastery at least one will be persuasion. Okay then the other is empathy empathy. Of course yeah. That one kind of goes both ways like indian d there might be insight in conatel. Somebody's lying or whatever but this is also like could you share your heart with somebody or whatever which of course it's pollyanna so that it that's a good set of skills there And now we get into ultimate. These are things that are based on if you really really good at something or conversely there are a few ultimate s- that are like if you have a one and something Those are like super comedic or whatever but anyway You get to these. You could either do it for sharm empathy or persuasion at like two out of those three. I was looking at a a friendship speak. Would that be persuasion or empathy. That's empathy empathy. Okay good i was going to say one of those could be the glad game thing. Pollyannas thing to think of something to be glad about mechanic. We could use the mechanic in the book or i had the thought. If you have a minute or more you can inspire an entire crowd to to feel better or do thing. So i love that. I'm glad game. So that's for empathy and rather go persuasion or charm. I sort of feel like persuasion. But i am open to ideas. I hadn't really landed on something that sort of so we can find something in the game book or we can go off the board like with glad game persuasion in the context of Getting your superior officers to help byu Getting your underlings. What he call your whoever's below you in rank till i get moving. Oh enlisted personnel. Yeah order giving But also just getting out of a situation you could be really good at haggling. Like with storekeepers. Yeah yeah. I think like honestly as i felt this. I've literally just thought about like stuff. That's happened in the movie pollyanna. Because she liked convinces a whole bunch of people to do things and that's why like persuasion really sort of lands with me of like haley. Mill says an album called. Let's get together. That could work. Yeah yeah you want. All i call it. Let's get together. You can tell. I did a bit of research trip for the show how i was like looking at the lake twenty minutes before we got on. So it's like woodwork. So the glad game is for team morale. Let's get together is for like we should do a thing and that could go forgiving orders but also taking them and using your years knack with to the gab to like get people to play along and perfect for team cohesion because Like one thing you do. That's great in are just regular d game. The bad joke. I guess we call it. Oh anarctica it really have this vibe of like. Yeah guys. Were doing great. This is a team effort. And then sometimes you're like we should probably do this. It's pretty awesome. So what's the mechanic here. Let's get together like we could add to persuasion rolls with like more than two peop- or like more than one person. We could just do a simple thing that slack Get somebody to do a task that they wouldn't otherwise do sorta like instant success thing. Yeah yeah just a sort of constant effect. Yeah i'll make your role if if it's something a person definitely would not do You know like turn off of torch wielding mob into a singing club. Pollyanna ado already giveaway. Give away those torches yes all right. So let's go to inventory useful items. You get to these to start with and we've talked about this off air but why don't you tell people what what you're going to be carrying these two useful items. I was thinking of western cocaine. Mallett i don't know how to spell croquet tried to write it down. Cro q. u. e. t. Now i know how to spell now so mallet of crushing and that'll give you plus to to blunt attacks and also ball hitting a. I know that the soldiers need cheer up and brought him croquet mallet with her. Yeah you still get a day off even on the front so got to have something to do could have a football but it might be. They might not let women play football back. Then who knows and the other thing is that was like at the. There's a hat or something. I don't actually remember this. I'm thinking of wide-brimmed hat with a like a ribbon your bow. Yup ribbon bow. Having traditionally one does make bows out of ribbons and this one's going have a special power which we don't know yet which usually in this show like once you go to a different dimension like things change a little bit so this might be like that this will actually be like anyway. So and then Players also have quote non useful items. Which are things that are just like stuff. You would have life a purse or a revolver. Or i don't know like a first aid kit. I feel like of course first aid kit and then like i can't remember if it was world war i think it was world war one and world war two. They sent the american soldiers with like cigarettes and chocolate as part of their like goto kit and so she has like since cigarettes and chocolate to like hand out to people hell. Yeah you'll start with one resources which is like your your pay from that week's job or whatever nylons. Was that a thing in. We're probably not. That was a world war. Two thing so actually. Here's a fun thing it probably. They probably were a thing in world war. One world war two Because world war choose when everybody was rationing to support troops You know like having shoes made out of cardboard and that sort of thing. 'cause just literally everything went to the war effort and so women often couldn't get nylons because they were using the materials used to make nylons in the war effort and so they would draw or tattoo. The stocking seem onto the back of their their legs. Because they couldn't they wanted to have the nylons but they couldn't have them. But i can't i think that was i think that was world war two where that was happening in world war one day like still had some stuff cool. So you've got a little pocket. Money got a purse First aid kit gretz heavy winter coat. 'cause it's winter autumn. How cool and then Hero points You'll start with two. And i'll once we get into it. I'll tell you how those work and then so let's go up to appearance We know what pollyanna looks like in the In the show but she's like a ten year old or whatever in the movie pollyanna so you'll be a world war two so i imagine that'll be what you're wearing like a dark where they dark blue or black whatever travel winter. Yeah and then but her hat she does have like the nurse hat but it does have like a ribbon on it that is with a bow that is not standard issue She also has blond hair. That's like mostly pinned up Because you know nurse But there are still like some of those like ringlets curls. It's beyond anymore. And how she could get those. You know frankly terrible war zone but she manages it And then just a perpetual sny all for everyone around her hell yes. So that's all that the only other thing on the character sheet is the anti joker or as for some reason we call it in this. Show the anti boehner. So you'll start with one of those usually The team kinda gets together after a session votes on who gets to have the anti boehner for the next. So we'll figure that out once he joined the group but yeah we'll get into a sample adventure. Here theme song comes in We camera zooms in through the the flaps of a medical tent It's rainy and gray cold and We see a Young blonde woman in a in a like blood spattered white apron situation. And she's next to a doctor who's Saint something to her and There's people with all kinds of terrible injuries mostly gentlemen from the war and they're like coughing and looking all all distraught and Yeah we'll just get right into it pollyanna give me a check to not be overwhelmed by all these mustard gas victims in the triage center. Pull up the character. Sheet here What should this be. i'm gonna say biology and presents. I flip over five cards. Your presence is three and your biology's too so that's five and then you get an extra one because you're uninjured but then i'm also going to give you another one because it's the first one of the night I'm feeling frisky. So that'll be Seven cards car again at remember which are successes does the does the suit matter or is it only hearts that matter The do not matter the only suit that matters. Yes is the queen of hearts. Okay so i got. I think three successive. I got an ace a queen and king and unlike sexes. her through you only needed to so Yeah you've managed to keep it together. You've been awake since five hundred. It's like nine ish and Yeah it's it's like the third month that you've been here like you're you're finally getting used to it if if you can call it that The doctor's like he hears a noise and you realize it's One of the trucks pulling in Out in the pool and he says Nurse go help the What do they enlisted. Go help the grunts Bringing the supplies. I need bandages. The you know what's another medical thing. I don't know begotten beyond leakers. Although she what supplies they have so you go by you. you go by a One of the the tough guys one of the security personnel right outside the tent. you can't you. You think his name is neil. He's british he's pretty handsome. He gives you a quick as you go by pat him on the shoulder and i say hang in there. Neil just What's your rank. I wonder what a nurses rank is probably nurse. Yeah yes nurse and So it's it's really muddy now it's really rainy Here's shouts all around. There's a bunch of tenths like kind of in a circle as you're coming out and anywhere. The trucks are people been running and walking and moving things. So it's just a muddy disgusting mess and two gentlemen are like opening up the back of a truck. They swing down the gate and they're starting to negotiate like who's going to go in and who's gonna Stand out the back and then they notice you and they stand to attention nurse private. Yeah private bill. Watson is e american and corporal. Lyle barth is the brit corporal private watson. How are you getting along in this Find weather quite fine. Madam couldn't be better and watson is like a great nurse are orders. Do you have more medical supplies. I'll we've been in desperate need. He kinda gives a look over his shoulder towards the all the medical supplies back of this truck and He he looks back over at the corporal and corporal says I think we can help you madam. Then he salutes again. I salute back. I say well thank you. We are wherever so grateful. If you'll follow me. I'll show you where to put everything and we can get taken care of civil deras. We have quite a few in there and we are running out. Somebody jostles you from behind and runs in and just starts grabbing something out of the truck and then you realize that there's a bunch of people coming to get stuff and so pretty soon watson and bartha overwhelmed standing on the edge of the truck ingo. Excuse everybody looks up at you. The enlisted people like think they should salute. But they're not sure and like the others give you this impatient like what are we. Doing look need. Supplies should be prioritized for the sick and dying men in the tent over there and i point to the to the tent with like the big medical single on it all be orderly we can ensure these are distributed in a way to help the army as a whole. Would you like to use one of your ultimate. Let's let's get together all right. The theme song swells and you get the Forward ops people taking the What do you call it. Like medical kits off to to What's that place. The quartermaster got medical supplies going year direction. That got some other stuff going to the motor pool and By the end of it watson and barth or both like super sweaty and hairs all like Tousled in their face and and they're like trying to get their uniforms in order but they're totally covered in mud and it's disgusting mess and then finally they pull out last create its supply crate three b. And that's the one you're supposed to be getting. I grabbed the crate. And thank you for your commitment. Tear duty corporal. Barth is like helping handed to you and he. He can't decide whether to salute or like help. You carry carry it and then he. He's almost about to drop it. And then you hear planes coming in overhead someone shouts incoming and people start scattering running to cover and gonna guy under the truck. I'm gonna give you a role This'll be we'll call it space wise or in this version plane wise. Which which you don't have an so you'll get two cards plus one because you're uninjured. Gimme a three. Yeah that's one success. Okay you're like yup. This makes perfect sense. He started to go into the truck. And bill watson is like what the hell are you doing. Oh excuse me ma'am up. And they're like trying to decide whether they should pull you out. And you see a guy stumbling through the mud and he trips like about twenty feet away and then you hear shooting and barth in watson like reluctantly run off in that direction and they say get to cover. I can look around for any cover for sides of the truck which didn't work okay. You remember your rags Four a bomb Situation and it is to run to your post or the nearest post Where people are gathering which is one of these tents and everybody is pretty much gone to their post by now. So it's gonna look pretty awkward when you go back to yours but there is a tent. That's closer. that's the. It's like the amputation tent. That one okay running out to that one and you see the the guy that's tripped out in the mud is like having trouble getting back up. I'm gonna go grab him. Okay you've run for the rain is just out of control and you realize that It's not another man. it's a woman and she's just totally covered in mud and her hair's like all sloppy. Or whatever you you Don't recognize her. Are you point dear. We need to get you out of this. you think. Maybe she's broken twisted her ankle. I'm going to say here. Let me help you up. And we can get back to the tent. We've gotta get you out of here. And i'm gonna sort of boost her up with like my. My side is unlike the side with the bad leg so she can like use me as a crutch to get over to the ten. Okay cool so gimme a persuasion. And i'm gonna say this time like she she's kind of out of it so this is more of like a Like a or this could be actually empathy and presents. So that'll be 7-plus-one qazir uninjured excess. To that is the re successes. Okay nice so you finally get through to her. You don't know if she like if her head is messed up or whatever but she starts to come around and she looks up at you and she sort of a a strong faced woman of maybe forty. You're surprised you haven't You don't recognize her. You've been here long enough to know most everybody so maybe she's new and at her age she's either like a high level civilian or a or a high officer like a major. I get hit. What are you. What are you doing out there. I post to get to. If i'm like shuffling into the tank so you're actually still haven't got her up yet. Oh you're starting to lift her up onto one foot and she sort of like sliding or whatever and then there's an explosion nearby and you hear people screaming the rain around you starts to slow and the sound from from screaming and like trucks honking and like whatever guns going off starts to get all kinda wobbly like it's like it's not penetrating realize that you and this woman seemed to be moving freely she Apparently her ankle doesn't hurt anymore because she stands up and starts kind of dusting herself off you are you what's going on She's she's wiping in her coat. Trying to get the mud off and that she sort of flicking her hands like annoyed basically trying to fling the dirt who. I give her a clean handkerchief which i have. That's that's so nice of you. She looks up and she's like a strong chin sort of like curvy eyebrows. Dark hair to sort of curled around her face and she says who pollyanna whittier a pleasure and she's got this smile but it's like one of those smiles that like doesn't go through the eyes if that makes any sense She says renita fog. Perhaps you've heard of me cav. I know i'm. I'm afraid i'm terribly sorry. I have not what what is what is happening. We need to if i can. Oh no matter. It seems i've stumbled into rather a nasty situation. Just can't seem to escape this war. No matter what i do he he has the war. It's everywhere like civilization itself is tearing itself apart. You hear a like slow way down and you see something. Come out of the sky and hit your medical tent and It's starting to explode like you can see people reacting to it through the flap and like the soldier outside of it is like shaking. We we have to. we have to help them Well it's so interesting that you say that. I'm actually here because i'm looking for someone who can solve problems so far. You're the only person i've found who fits the bill. Well i mean. I'm happy to do whatever i can't what is happening. What is this. How were we this. I did i die yes in. I know it's hard to accept but but there it is and you can't escape your destiny. I'm afraid the truth is you're not really here. If that makes sense haven't she point straight up and you see another shell like coming straight out of the sky down towards the two of you who can oh of course now before you move on They're just a few things we need to cover one. You'll need a way to survive in a dangerous environment. She draws off her wide-brimmed blue hat and hands it to you and then she points to your croquet mallet which is oddly just sitting in the mud feel away and she says i took the liberty of fixing these up a bit. It was all. I could scurry up at short notice. It should be sufficient until you're able to resupply. These medical supplies will help greece wrong. But i'm well okay As i said yes and no She kicks up the mallet into her hands and like swings at around all john seely gone mine. Take the mallet okay. It seems a little heavier than you. Remember it There's another thing There will come a time when you come into possession of a certain artifact when that happens you will need to make a choice. Surrender it to those who wished to have it for themselves or keep it. It can do much if you learn how to use it. of course i can help you. That's kind of my whole thing. She bows does she see trustworthy. Give me an empathy. Presence jack o. r. eight so i got three successes in joker. Okay to you. Wanna use your anti boehner. No i wanna take so with with jokers. Either we can resolve them right away. Or i can kind of put it in my back pocket. Bring it out when it'll be more fun. I think you know for certain that something is not right about this woman however the idea of having something to do in the afterlife seems like so seductive that you can't help but like consider what she's saying. Okay okay she says. I'd love to stay in chat. But she looks up at the shell which is now like a few feet above you ta ta. There's a massive blast you experience horrific pain and then you pass out then. He thoughts feelings lot. That very fun. Very barry fine okay. There's one quick little bit here before we wrap up. You find yourself in a large crater. It smells of gunpowder. Sulfur ozone the sky is purple. You hear the sound of shelling in the distance there's lights on one side of the crater flashing on and off there's multicolored blasts and like distant screaming Shadows are moving about the occasional report of a rifle. And that's about all you see from where you are. I'm going to try and like find some place to cool. So you don't have a compass on you but i'll just on three sides basically there's Battlefields and then To the south you see cut into the south side of the crater a short trench with a ramp going down to what might be a bunker So you figure that's your only quick option for hiding. Yeah i'll go. Oh by the way that hat and the croquet mallet are like lying beside you. You're no longer muddy or bloody but you're still in your same close. But it's like they've been freshly laundered and get it. Grab the hat. I'm going to grab the croquet mallet. And i'm going to like reach into my purse and pull out croquet ball and sort of look at it. Toss it in the air and catch it with one hand and get like a little bit of a smile and tuck it away and nice. Okay you get to the ramp and though you can't see to well you see there some sort of Mass at the bottom of the ramp Close to the door. There's a big metal door. It looks like or concrete. Some big door. i'm gonna look at them nash. Okay you head down the ramp you see. It's it's still. It looks like clothes and the corpse of a boy huddled up in winter clothes. You see his feet are wrapped in cloth. His face has been. Mike deformed by some agent bike. It looks like it happened just before death like not like a long-term Medical condition Doesn't look like fire or freezing His hands are black and puckered with odd. Sores and the ps to resist ons. He apparently tried to dig at his own throat before dying here mustard gas Which i probably familiar with by this point you have seen People who were killed by it and it. It looks like this was something more fast acting. Yeah it looks a little different. Of course he's been dead for. God knows how long like it looks like. He was petrified. Like it you know. But he wasn't. He wasn't eaten by bacteria or animals or anything. It's you would not expect the corpse to to stay like this for this long. I am going to take his like coat and like cover him that okay you you manage to get it off of him. Even though his hands are sort of like clutched in front of him You could cut him with scissors or whatever and then you like. Put it over his head. yeah You hear machine gun. Fire open up and the top of the trenches like like there's dirt and pebbles and stuff coming down like someone's shooting at the trench there and when a train into the bunker cool you see. The door is slightly open like a few inches. You could probably like grab the side of it. I will do that. Okay give me a see. What should this flip b. braun mentally funny run athletics okay. So that's one analyst guards. Do you want use any drive or hero point. Yeah i'll use a drive. Now's the time to do it. Yeah yeah used dr one at a time until you get power many successes you want for this. You need to yeah. I'll do that. God just keep flipping cards or yeah you spend drive. You can spend from one to five depending how many need and then you can. You can use a hero point to give to route. Yeah that's zero successes ads. You want to use the euro point. Now i'm just gonna give up. Okay you're like so after doing that for a while. You notice that there's a button you've seen buttons before probably but is sort of more popular after this period but yeah biden. Okay you push the button. The power is often. it doesn't do anything. i guess. Machine gun shoots more. Are we get back exchange. Suddenly you see a red light appear around the button like in square around it and you see red light kind of appear somewhere behind the door. I will push the button. A gan okay. The door opened silently. You see down this hall There's like red lights ever so often. But they're super dim and their psych dust floating in the air maybe got kicked off by the door opening. You see several sets of footprints with like mud and dirt and dust and at a certain point the lights must not. They must go out. 'cause you can't see past a certain distance you also hear what sounds like distant wailing and you can't localize it whether it's down there off to the left or off to the right seems to be everywhere. I'm gonna head inside bravery as soon as you enter the door shuts by you and cool war. It sounds final with multiple. chunk chunk. sounds continuing danone. What is pollyanna saying to herself in her head as we cut to the fade to black simply has hurt. Better go help them. That's awesome or for. The tower is special project of the trap. society and colossus media grew. Our theme song is were again. Orion spy kevin mccloud. You can find his music at encompa- tech dot com send us an email at work for the tower at gmail.com. Stay weird everybody. So that's it. That's the word for the tower. You're here cool. It makes me think of like There's like an episode of Of doctor who where. There's like some horrible forever war with a bunch of hands that top of the ground drag people down. That's the like and like clearly clearly it is like riffing on world war one but like good stuff. I like it. Good good spooky by. Yeah this is so wild like we've been doing this show for a couple of years and we've been on a break and so we've been having our heroes like running down this hallway forever. Basically now we're gonna like y'all are going to meet in the middle of this hallway. Wait just a long long hallway. It's finding spent like my other game. We spent like an entire session. Basically just like walking down a tunnel like one of our one of our The characters is like claustrophobic and she liked drinks to like deal with the claustrophobia. But then like she hit the point. Where like if she drank more work. It was actually going to be like a problem for her ability to do things. No and so. Our druid headway some calming herbs. And so she smoke those and then because we're in this lake tiny five foot wide tunnel. My character also got like hot boxed off of it then i. We were just walking down a tunnel. Then we were walking down a tunnel like high. Then we finally got the end. I got like a cactus and then we came up in this like towns like records hall but it was like that when we walked in the tunnel and we got in a fight. And that's it. This is really fine. Hell yeah. I like the system a good one. Should i try and write. Preserve my gak for next game. No we usually start over after like a big shift like if there's a big Arc we'll just kind of start over. Usually in a session will will do like two or three episodes in one session. And so like when that's done will will reassign the anti boehner and give everybody hero points and stuff so i'm going to give you one extra hero point so you'll have three when we start next group episode which should be pretty soon. Yeah oh Let's do likes and wishes. So were there any moments in the story that you liked anything that stands out for you. I really liked suspicious. Lady her name. I got found renita hemmings worth but i don't think that's right. Renita fog renita thog. Maybe i was thinking about chris. Hemsworth renita five. She's great. I wore her. I just really like. I was like oh shit. I am actually dead like i. I don't know why didn't like swag like for whatever reason that completely blindsided me. I think Yeah just like good bandra bread. I like it when she didn't like when she tried to dive under the truck and it didn't work like that. That was that was very good pollyanna so cool. I can't wait to get in a group So wishes are there any role playing type stuff. You'd like to get into. Are there type of monster. You wanna fight a you know. Just go off the board. Let's see i like. I like weird monsters like distant like like. How did you ever watch the old allison wonderland like cartoon and there. Were those. Like super freaky flamingos like that. We're like Croquet mallets but also like dicks like they were jerks. Val at all. They're great and they attack people and they're kind of theory like they're they're just like weird stuff like you know getting attacked by like fucking enormous duck would be like fun like i like classic monsters but like those are really fun cube. But like i'm i'm always here for the weird shit. Like i'm always here for it so that i think this game and this like this world you've built have tremendous opportunity for that dislike this. I mean i built a character based on a child who is always cheerful and gave her a croquet mallet and assign a hat like clearly. I tend to go for the weird stuff. Yes because it's stephen king. It's going to be equal parts. Creepy gross spooky upsetting and funny and And everything in between so it can be like if you've read his later dark half book. I mean Dark tower books. It gets quite silly at times so it's really we can go all over the place. I have read all of them. Oh shit really. Yeah yeah. I read every single one. I there're few books that have caused me to. Dc and is like full of rage at the ending. I it took me. I'm gonna say a solid two months to appreciate the end of the dark tower like the weeks. You mean the entire last book or do you mean like the bit. N bit alright. So april tells us spoiler for the end of book seven And that starts to chat it takes about four and a half minutes so just jumped four and a half minutes from when i say go geal hopefully avoid all that. Go the very end. Bet like where he actually makes it into the tower. I was like are you fucking kidding. I hated it. I hated and like over time. I got there. But like i like i love a good ending and i love a concrete ending and like i just that oh man read stephen king literally. The only thing i have ever fully read by stephen king is the entire dark tower series. Okay okay so you don't. You don't have the broad context. Yes he's terrible at endings. There's this thing. This is what i've heard like he's bad at i think and so i as far as i can tell like this is actually probably one of his better ones. Which is you know slightly terrifying to think about. I mean i like it. But i was so mad. And he's like he did it. He did was pet cemetery. His pet cemetery misery dolores claiborne shawshank redemption. Yeah some overdrive is one of the worst movies of all time. I'm like i'm like fairly familiar with like what the his body of work by. Oh the shining. Like i just aware of like what his body of work consists of without having actually read anything besides the dark tower. It's pretty wild. I mean i created this show between book six and seven. So i didn't know how wild it was gonna get. You did. Once i finished it i was like oh. This show is perfect because not only can we like sort of maybe correct some of the really zany bullshit but also like just play in that space because it is off the chain. I encourage everyone to read it and get mad at the ending and they come around and listen to this show. It's great yeah. I did you ever. Have you studied the theater. Yeah a little bit. I i you know through school so you know like bertel brac at all. Yeah so like that's sort of what a lot of the later of the dark tower religion trilogy. The dark tower books like remind me of is like that sort of here is the thing you were going to see. Here is the event that is happening. Here is yes. It's very mets. Like it's meta but like brek sort of was known for doing this thing where he would like. Come and straight up. Tell you what happened in the historians and then like then then klay out with story and like i could dig more into it but like you'd think with the intervening time stephen king could maybe put a put a like more modern spin on it instead of just like doing it. Kind of clumsily but Like the setting up like. Here's what's going to happen. Here is the thing that has just happened dude. Here's how it will end but you won't get to that until like a book and a half later. Yeah i love it. I love it so much but there were years in between the early books and then his later books were like boom boom boom and i think editing Could have been done. Better A little refinement. But you know he wrote these books not me so i'm down with with what what we got here. He wrote him millions of people. Read them armed. Join them if it wasn't so wild and off the chain like we wouldn't have any interest in living in this world because like this story would have been told but there's so many stories to tell so much It's so great and pollyannas in the mix so four girl so some of our hardcore stephen king fans will probably recognize renita different context. So that'll be fun guy. Yeah i don't. I am not as familiar with his leg. Bigger body of work so should be interesting. Hell yeah all right well Catch you next time. Thanks for listening. Everybody april do. Do you want people to contact you on the internet. Now okay. i'm good. Thank you check out. Check out Wills twitch stream. He does our plays music. I like just have it on on the side. Sometimes it's on twitch will start with me one l. and on tuesdays were over there doing our dnd thing. It's fantastic I think that'll do it. Oh the show wore for the tower at g. Mail dot com and And war for the tower dot. 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CanCon 2020 Show

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CanCon 2020 Show

"Get I folks all my Gosh. Did we just have a whole bunch of fun leading up to this particular show? You're here with the courage. I am streaming on behalf of down to seek bar and coach and basically the Cancun show apologies. If I lose the plot because the last three hours I've had no power and two minutes off. The show was meant to go live. I sit these these boys attempts to say POWs back and Liam's life bullshitting me are swore pretty sure swill. We said that was in the post. We told the Internet's that the show would be delayed. Twenty four hours and then literally we've kicked off and well. It's the Cancun show cleaned. Are you excited that By the way if you guys don't know who these this is Clinton Mallett. He is the grandfather. Australia's are in hobby hero. The tournament organized cocaine con call to glory and he will be our guest today when it comes to Sorry I just got off Daycare. Just asked me to pay my electricity bill. You have to do something that size tile and ridiculousness that you'd go down just a little bit but clean you. I Edit I think my player you've run a whole bunch of events. You're the code. The Code podcast man. When it comes to herald of what. You've really kind of Sit The blaze. And you've really trail blazed for us bit of introductions that you want to add to that inter not really no you have total the truth and a little bit longer than what maturing. Te'o for Cancun. That's that's why I'm here today. That's the important thing for me at Mont and I have seen you for Woodson tournament points to anyone who's had manfred in the daily. Sorry if you've got your list you have already got some additional tournament points. Just Start Your journey with this. This as always we have the villain himself as he calls himself He is mass the monster or Shutter Liam get a workout really like let's say like about an hour and a half ago. I work them leaving the hard life. He living the hard life but appreciate you getting up at seven. Am to join us today. Talk About Cancun and today's very much at least review. What we're GONNA do today is we're GonNa talk a little bit con. We're going to really highlight the trends. When it comes to the particular event there is an event of two hundred and forty players. I think we've had about what just under children's thirty lists submitted. Clint to twenty eight to twenty That's good that's good. Yeah still a lot of people's it's still the biggest still able with a few drops this week. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get beat that two hundred knock somebody. Let's let's Let. Let's set the scene for anyone who doesn't know who what can Connie's Clinton what he's why is it so important and why has two hundred and forty players Signed up to this event it sold out in just over twelve hours. We crush the website For about a good four hours of that twelve hour Window release What's he then all about? So Cancun this His Biggest Gaming Convention Games and Board Games and things like that It's been happening for forty odd years in Cambridge in the nation's capital and then obviously a whole bunch of Events take place within it taped Like a forty K. Like kings of war all that sort of fun stuff And the new games and all that sort of stuff as well And so Cold Glory. Which is the actual name of the tournament although nobody calls that Is the I just sigma component of of Cancun? Any says it has definitely grown from strength to strengthen for year to a to a ridiculous level where we are selling two hundred forty tickets in about twelve hours than Great Things Sir. It's a pilgrimage. I guess of a bunch of different. Ios communities That will come together to play together and have a good time and you know you have things like you've got up on the screen Yarns Barbecue and bits and pieces like that. So it's really that's really also lane. What's your observation? Because you've been playing since day one of Asia's seek Ma Cancun. This'll be a fourth Cancun is that correct. Yes this will be my fourth Cancun copulate. It's been four years holy crap Yes what I've seen is just a community grow and I it just keeps growing like I think we're just double all the time and as we grow the hobby level has been like amazing like I remember the first year. Some people just wanted to get the army. Don like three color minimum a little bit more than that like ams shades and highlights as the years. Come on You. Just started saying like epic display-boards epic OMIC conversions. And Yeah. It's just been crazy to sing. What like does the community grow with Bertha Gaming and the hobby side over and And also it's really been fun seeing all the events hate us because we take all this says great great. Great go as while Clinton if they just got organized they would also sell the tickets are. We're not going to attack the other guy immune systems something compete groping it. Look we did see some alternative game systems freak out and and basically begged the convention not to release any more tickets age of CPR. Because I was selling like hotcakes. Yes that is correct. The only other thing that I'll make in the certainly always a Hashtag every year. We basically social pressure Clinton to increase the increase is and I can see that Michael clocks already who shing or make it. Four hundred eighty. Let's see how we go for next year. It's doubled in size Racist saying let's make six hundred but I think you know the since catches seek Ma. The event has literally doubled. We started off at fifty five players who registered in the very first age seek Mar. We then went to one hundred and ten players the following year to twenty the following year this year of only grown a little bit. But that was on your own decision. Not The demand. I'm certainly show is a lot more people who wanted to play. So we've just these advantages growing and growing and growing has become the world's largest aches. I seek Marvin nothing. E- Gaza right into celebration of Hobby. It is a competitive event. So these always differently hot lists and very strong players really gunning for that but also it's at its ultimate pilgrimage Having joint with some of some of the international guys where you know Games workshop does his big thing around new Ye Nyami but for a lot of people can Connie's new army. Most people going to Cancun. Weekdays new ideally build up to these particular events Is That G. You guys noticed that as well Yup New Year New Army so starts in about July. I think when people start to what contact Cancun so some people have jewelry. Yes so people. It's February some people are very some people say. Oh that newborn daddy looks really good in November. Let's stop that Amish quickly so A lot of people had that thought just asked her on. Yeah thank you see. People Co the new favorite toys. I can't because it is the biggest event and you get to see some colby and he has been working on. How many projects for over on just under year like they started in February and they work onto it and stuff. So yeah. It's a multi system event. Lots of people ultimately. I think it's it reminded me a lot of adept tacoma weight loss year. It's very much bringing the communities together. You know it's catching up with old mates Jim Darkness pulls off this amazing Bobby Hughes. He can see in the top left and middle. There's this really long picture and actually there's lots more people Then is particularly photo holds. But we lost. You kicked off with a Friday night barbecue to bring the communities together. It's again he the she The honest war guy indeed streaming loss g will have some streaming again of of one of the top table. So it's very much a massive celebration of hobby that I think most people if not all people are really excited about very very cool all right. Well I think I think we've talked about Cancun and given a quick introduction and certainly I'd highly recommend doing a google search and finding all the photos nothing but love joy in hobby going around that given that Clint. There's two hundred thirty list that was submitted. Two hundred and twenty eight list submitted We thought there was going to be true approaches. We could go through every single list and basically tell you that you're most likely going to do okay and maybe three three. Oh No not trying to offend to many people all we could go down a different route and and we thought instead of to replicate what the amazing stuff that Dumas doctors had done. Lost you what we're GonNa do is pull together some of the Dada trains the insights things that you want to start thinking about as you're leading to Cancun potentially some of the battalion some of the things you need to know what you'll likely face on the table. And then we're GONNA pull out some of the top lists that you might WanNa think about. You Might WanNa start gunning full. How you want handle that does sound like pretty agenda boys. Yeah I'm so sad to hear my mind. Terrain to paint comfy token about two hundred and fifty lists size writers. I would like to talk to two hundred thirty. Lists is a lot of commonality and and I don't want to do this A disservice as well just to say yeah. It's it's a good list. Yeah I I remember as he got those lists guy for I was just like I am so governor not reading every single one because my head would blow up. Look there's only one bad list I've seen it at six KOOKS so Hot GARBAGE LISTS THAT WE HA- he is my garage. I am going to be submarine these tournaments. I will lose but we will talk about that list. Sorry I'll I'll say to you. We'll see me round here. We'll be at the bottom tables thanks to set so what I will do. Is I'll lead the segment here and love you guys to pull your insights out the chat you guys throw it threats and things while will bring it up. We'll try to make these interactive possible so to start off. What's the committee look like? Who's coming to this particular event? So we mentioned there was two hundred two hundred and twenty eight players who have submitted they list. It's a hundred and forty player event. Where people coming from so I'd put out a quick survey doesn't capture. Everyone at has about one hundred forty people who had responded by the end of the survey so these factors into two-thirds of the Of that community. So where most people coming from. It's coming from New South Wales bringing over sixty people. In Victoria's bringing just under thirty this probably more victorians at ten responded Queensland. Act What I love is effect. That is actually I believe eleven on record That coming from New Zealand. We have some people coming from South Australia. We have one person hung from. Tasmania represent randy. We love you. We've also got somebody coming from Florida we're GONNA have begun from The radio seek mop. Podcast HE's coming down from Florida and then finally we've got Some some European friends. We've got some of the The Scottish Kurt surprised by some of these numbers all What your I take I I'm slightly disappointed. There's not more Queensland is coming 'cause we we have a fantastic England but But it also could just pay. Lets people haven't filled that survey yet but may not have love connecting Queensland. Hey I'm using the Internet currently Ma. I wasn't one of the problem tonight. Remember yield the delight site. I also a little bit to support anybody from W. Eyeso- need to need to work. When he to stretch out the hand and say comes Cancun unite and gets more. Wrx But one or two I believe on. I pulled out light if I remember correctly. Yeah Yeah Five. Perhaps they can get more friends next year and that way will actually get some say now. Roll those numbers on a super surprising by stone. Stay populations and stuff. We also need to get someone from the from the Northern Territory Surely the surely they're playing. I think Mo- yeah I think I think there's a Jada Don but I've never sort of being able to find any lodge saying they're speaking of Saint. We've got a whole bunch of war gaming communities coming together from all across the world all across the globe the top three gaming clubs that are going to be represented is a drummer. Plays measured gaming is bringing. That's actually roller. She'd be done by round. Measured gaming is bringing thirteen. Play a coach of thirteen players. We've got loads of ruin bringing ten clan. Feel frigging seven then we have a whole bunch of people from Border Line Gaming. We've got basically Belco Hammer hob western warriors Model are camera. Iowa's dates remodel wounds. That the list goes on and I don't know if I don't know about you guys but for me. I looked at this and I was surprised. Amount of gaming clubs that I wasn't aware of. Yeah some of them. I'm not sure at gaming clubs. Some of them I just think groups have might serve. Come up with a great name If I bought it still good to say people getting together and United participating are that there are some you know the salty boys have a few more members than just the one that stays bits and pieces. It's also had also this depends on who filled out the survey Jomar dot screen that because that's actually an era you up in the actual columns. That's correct is measured gaming thirteen but the podium has loads of ruin so long story short. It's it's great to see these communities come along. I think Kinda comes back to what you said Clinton around bringing your mates and I think that's one of the reasons why we sell so quickly. Is that H of these clubs? Really Kinda rally together to say Grab your ticket. It's GONNA sell out and you know you're selling batches of five and ten really pretty much overall. Shout out to the file charge gamers and the failed charge podcast who have no affiliation with each other. But they seem to really enjoy filing charges. Yup Yes the interesting. Yeah yeah the file gaming that Fudge Games from from New Zealand complet- completely. Different thing. Mostly mostly Lutherans. We asked we asked. The play is from their experience level. We had said you know. How long have you planning agency awful? And it's probably no surprise as we've kind of grown we can see. That definitely does a larger pool coming in from three to four year right so we found is about twelve percent of the players that are coming within the first year of agency ball which I think is glories at coming in and I've seen a whole bunch of people saying that Cancun ease their first event so now shadow to you guys definitely make yourself feel welcome and come introduce yourself because I think we're all excited the communities kind of growing and We can see that these rural core of of people who have done these circuit once twice three times. Not surprised about these numbers. Why is that? Liam just Like so we got the new edition that's now about a year old And in Mercer's people who play for the new edition had been paying about four about threes. So saying that big number doesn't surprise me but it's good to see like people who have been playing for less than a year is greater than the ones who've been around for a year which Kinda shows that the game has been a lot more accessible. Thanks to this edition that make sense because that was a big thing now with like when it made a new edition. Is it going to be accessible? I remember you and I have spoken about the game. Some of the rules been a bit bloated and some people say the road. Sometimes a bit bloated. But it's good to see it hasn't turned people off about it but Yeah I am not surprised that most people can't cone is on the calendar too so seeing but most people who've been playing for about four or so years off coming because they know that it's accounts of like an adventure from the condo. Say and I think for me as well. It's an event that I always go back and ripe to my friends and watch community. I'm sharing photos. You know. People are watching the stream. There's nothing hyped telling people to come along because it's it's one of those Moments that if you don't come you'll likely to regret so. It's great to see his core of experience. Play in a co like to see them all down and finally the the the question around Is this your first time playing Cancun will according to the respondents about fifty percent job of forty two percent of people saying that this is the first canned conso they might have been playing locally. And they garages in a games workshops with a small gains clubs but they coming Coming in droves to let you know to come to Cancun so my advice is make sure. Everyone's having a great time and do your part to introduce yourself if you're coming to this event. Yeah pretty cool. It's awesome to say so. Many new faces considering light went out growing the event hugely year on From last year to this year just the sheer amount of new fight vices Is Pretty Awesome Jaren Art? Yeah it's good to save money faces and it's good to say that Sam loves your Your Dungeon Clint so shut at two year. And we've got a really awesome community by the way who's jumped on like getting to the data get into the dot. Well here is the data. This is this is something that I've been working my Ossoff and I hope you guys are excited because I have been running a an emerging Meta series and. I thought let's take the greatness out of that and bring it to Cancun review so what we're GonNa do here is. I'm GonNa pull at some of the insights that I found. Boys Love Gusta respond and some of these things are gonna be surprised you some of these things once surprise you And I think it's been a fun as well so without further ado. Let's talk about least choices. Let's talk about what is coming to the event so we know that there are two hundred and twenty eight lists. That are coming Of those list. I think if you do. The math is actually to twenty-five some some of the must-have snuck in really light clint's but based on the twenty five th that I had that we have thirty five percent coming from the grant aligns order twenty percent coming from our destruction twenty percent coming from death and then twenty five percent coming from chaos. And you can see the seventy eight forty five forty six forty five so first off. Does that surprise you? What are your thoughts certainly surprised me? I remember talking to you Anthony as we were sort of getting the I listen Just yet we were looking when there was about thirty or forty scene and it was almost an even split between the full grand. Lawrence's wasn't off. Destruction was echoes like order destruction. That were leading the charge at that at that point. Yeah it was fairly caller. Might have been like twenty percent to twenty two but yeah like it was fairly good. It's it's probably the best split we've had in the four years to be honest which is a great a great indicator of the state of the game. And the study OMNI'S I. I am super happy this because it's kind of showing that I think the big thing with most of the past crank on is Samis wet supported with a battle time. Rabbit always at this Nami but many has final time because I know it supported in a way but the fact of it now I think were up to last two or three books that need to be revamps on our. We've got one more. I think technically Sarah Fun. You could probably argue that allegiance and a gushing nergal probably need an update but the Saraf on definitely's at oldest oldest style book. That'll be going. Yep so that's pretty much. Every army has a book now And affect everyone has something they go coop. Go At like SPO- artifacts that can do something with it and you can see that. Nice even split. I am not surprised that Woulda is bit higher because you do have storm costs. Which is the easy accessible army. And as if you are armies where it's easier accessible to get started and get onto the table compared to like where you probably have to get the stock collecting box and stuff so yeah. I'm I'm super happy. This and misses a really good sign for the future of the game. Sam Yeah Def definitely feels paper rock. I think which is Great When we look at the average list we can start to see that Some of the lists are a quite interesting certainly. Everyone is most likely walking into the game with at least a command point which I thought was really fascinating now. Some of the armies have more command points than others so a prime example of that is destruction on average. Has One point two command points up? A slave while the average chaos death and off has either point nine fa chaos and order and actually death has the least amount of command points on average so some of them are not going in with the battalion and the the likelihood of just poke command point of anything so fascinating to me. The average has twenty five points with allies. Now the allies was an interesting one. So there's something like four hundred and fifty thousand points across the board of the entirely submitted and there was only five thousand five hundred points of total points spin allies now ninety two percent of ours lists didn't include an ally so most armies aren't coming to the game with an ally up this slave however the grain alliance that was spending the most in their allies. Probably no surprise comes from auto now destruction. Fuller's second so I guess I wonder why and those or points coming from when it comes to allies. Who knows yeah? I wonder who is a really good ally in Ohio must must canary must be a mercenary company an extra. I don't think anyone detained company memory. There was one. There's one one night of all the lists crazy wild man as actually quite. It's actually quite good. It's sexually quite quite good idea. What what the person has done yet concern? I think I remember that list. Seek sixty one plays border command points which was fascinating so only wanting three plays. Well actually. It's almost one in four plays border command point and The everyone average winds across the board is one hundred and twenty two now. Chaos coming to the table with one hundred twenty six points per average death is one hundred twelve destruction hovering forty one and order a hundred and fourteen. Now we see you could argue the quality of words if you're taking your lodge units of Graziano Blah's Versus some of those death units. That probably a bit more resilient Liam Clinton what comes to mind when you see things like this again. Does that surprise you at all No not really in checking the lists. That's the field that I got around one hundred and twenty odd winds Aimed allies is a bit of a funny thing Yeah but because the way that you try to average at grocery but yeah there there was an ally that stood out above all the rest. Sorry I'm sure I'm assuming we'll we'll talk about that. We'll get to clearly the fog tape. Shaman for that additional our command point when you're all four plus he's definitely definitely swinging it lists and one thing. I want to say quickly about that. Slide is that Ju- to the new edition of accountable. Quake only by one command. Point has generally drove people to be able to get because loss year. You would see so many people by two or three points especially in deaths and stuff. Yeah Yeah I wanted to look at the size of the list to say. What's the likelihood of you getting a triumph? So if we look at this we can see that Fifty fifty six percent of people are actually coming in at two thousand points. We can say that. An additional twenty two percent of coming in at nineteen ninety so almost was at seventy almost almost eighty percents of lists a- coming in at at nineteen ninety or nineteen. O Two thousand points so really if you'll sitting in this nineteen eighty nine thousand nine hundred seventy or even nineteen sixty some people. There's a really strong chance of Getting a triumph. And you probably should remember to ask your opponent and remember to use the trial especially feel seating bandwidth because you definitely walking away with one. Yeah a dunces people in nineteen sixty Obviously the never not going to get the triumph but they need to make themselves gods to take full advantage of the fact that I will probably get one time unless they run up against one of the other two percent of people said that is just as well how reports he had nine sixty no way yes way so often forgotten about so just you know look at the stats and know that if you'll sitting in that you know if you're if you're sitting at nineteen eighty there is you should walk away with a triumphant most games. It'd be very unlikely that you would walk over the try in a couple of yoga and so definitely remember to roll. It makes. Oh some cards or something. They seldom cards trying to find Maka. Make sure to ask your opponent when we dig a little deeper into the list. We can see that. Who would the most populist now? Obviously there's a massive spread. I think literally. Every allegiance was represented. But all of the top twenty allegiances we can see that of the list admitted cities of seek Ma Ogm more tribes all seok born rape is. I'd nifty can Scape in FI slaves. I enjoy stone costs slash Seraphin corn. Sylvan ethnological glimpse bike. It's Karen overloads. The big dog obviously big wad bone split as and I split out for the purpose of this Fleshy to courts not horn and Legion of grief. All represent the top twenty twenty percent of allegiance lists. It's interesting now. What was deep can like lawsuit. Clinton was third. Cy lost the third. Most represented faction was taken. And then he had I think I- Angeles was in the interior and then stone cast Five as well wasn't it? Yeah Nigga pretty hard maybe a stone cross Nergal in Andreessen equal but it was. We've had a shakeup. Let's just put that way for pretty much everything but on it. Yeah dight hours. When I was checking lists I was very surprised to see how many lists coming in I. Yes I think I didn't have even though it's probably one of the older Newark. New Hamis came out with second edition. Older rules are so relevant for what's happening in the game at the moment. Still like striking I on about around three or two depending on. Lichfield is still so huge. do quite well against most matchups. I think like you remind myself ride. I am not looking forward to going up against the Deacon lives with my burn rate this I am not looking forward to it So yeah but it's GONNA say cities up there because it's pretty much like that was like the mix order back in the day right Anthony. That's pretty much. What cities would? Yeah Yeah I mean you. You get your occasional dispossessed. You'd have your free people. Bought ultimately city is definitely. I think the kind of shows you that these armies are being laying dormant for some time. And I'm going to call out quickly. That Michael Clock has made a really good point and that was going to be one of my next questions was any emissions that you guys were surprised about infamy. Certainly seeing only one doors of Kane at least in two hundred and twenty eight lists Certainly surprised me. I would have expected more. And into to the point of material. He's asked around legions of Negoti. Now that's obviously split out between grain host night etc etc but legion of Grapes. The the more popular of the bills. Yeah I'm not surprised about daughters in my opinion That army and I did talk about this. Lean a a bunch of mates when I spoke with about it Doors McCain has dropped off quite a bit and also normally wants to paint ninety which else. It wasn't a fun time. It's very much like a very much an Omni. It's very niche And people who ran it just all they did was just do three. They'd really like the hobby on aspects. I think the one does came player. Who is playing is actually. Put a lot of it into the hobby pot of Billingham because they loved the army So I'm surprised by for their running caliber on Is well kind of shows. You better not the biggest. Pow Gema. They'RE GONNA COU. I really like this. This is GONNA do 'cause daughters when they were up there was hag. Nah 'cause they could better bill so you people probably who did play daughters of gone to open the one with the big lettuce now Petra fix my opinion even like me. I played Joel. I'm playing patriots. Also shout out to our Sara phone playas mentioned that. It's the oldest book that's currently in rotation yet. It's it's in the same pocket between Slash Cohen Sylvan. Noga also people are either coming here with a competitive building mine or they just want to roll dice and play with his space lucid so Kudos I was surprised to see as many Sarah. Fun As That I coming with voice Cancun we had lots last year while people don sows. But I can't blame them. You know we say I can't blame the Middle Good on Sarah Phone. Let's dig a little deeper. Let's actually say what as lists are made off so when we look at the realms of origin the way you are coming from now some armies actually only one army is Is Men is mandated by your allegiance. I see these seek mile forces you to come from one of the two realms but from most other armies. You're obviously tied into choosing a rail. Men often that's derived by the odd effect. That you want to pick for malign sorcery so from a representational point of we can see actually Chiron Shirish Certainly the the logic of them and certainly could play. Stop thinking about why people are coming from there whether they want no eighth Looking full sorry. You're looking for the The ethereal amulet you looking full effect. Scales you looking full Theoretic cloak may be guys strike Some of these Alisa certainly more more Looking for more of those than others. what surprised me was a thirty percent of people who actually didn't come from a realm with forgot with they just not as narrative as as some other people all They just don't find a reason to to take a realm Some people but some people also pick a realm and then do nothing with the site. Yeah it I remember. Seeing a bunch of lists that have picked older will shy show whatever off and had nothing from the Rome. They Sai be interesting to see how that translates whether that is the narrative with the army comes from the or they've just picked one that I like. I even honest. I just didn't do around 'cause I don't I'm not using the Romana facts or anything like somebody might just do it just to be like all my amish from like. Roh Moo but they take none of the artifacts and stuff so yeah we'll Petra fix isn't around SAR in and I believe from the Memory. Majority if not all a pitcher effects didn't come from realm so whether they went taking a battalion. It didn't need the additional artifact of what that might be picking on EUBOEA. I just I remember seeing it very what I will say what I will say recently. Gw have released some great bylines. Weather's been nominee to take an effect from Milan sorcery. That's very like I have gone for semi books. On Mike. There is no point going from wind. Solar straight maligned. Socio was amazing lassie because it did feel that GATT with people who didn't have a bike supported battle time to give them some good artifacts now with always new battle times. There has been no real neat to go to Sam yet. We've got fourteen new newer books than last year. I it's been different. We have I went out riding on people not taking a realm but it was interesting to say that one third of people didn't choose a realm for whatever reason I chose when it comes to here. Are these really should have been animation. But I got lazy so I wanted to see. Is this game going to be here? Hamma and and what's GonNa Happen? He so we can see. They're going to be ten in the Gash on the table. We've got three alarios to moralities. We've got eight Arken and we have a seven Goetrik so For anyone who is running go trick. There is a competition on the twitter verse. That Darren is running the differently. Chick that out But seven go tricks. Do we expect more? Considering his five hundred and twenty points week less always surprised occupants returned with dislikes the darkness book. And how many of those gashes a sitting in Petra fix elites your Oscar questions. They go back to back so contracts not surprised astle One Cool model to There's lots of anatomies for him to sit in that coming He's in a couple of other ones as well but a lot of a lot of 'em are I think And it's great to see how come back because I think maybe one last year. Maybe I think one maybe two Sorry to say that increase with him. Getting a you know. A bit of a rejuvenation It's it's great but and he's being taken a bunch of different allegiance a bunch of different allegiances as well which is good. I guess when is call? It is quick comment. I love this. So someone's cold at that days. Only one doors the list and to Marathi waitressing regardless it's GonNa be great it is ethic this list That's not a mistake. I've noticed one thing I would like to say is offering on since he has the mocks and stuff and also he just gain the hey tonight keyword with mash which is a huge buff like yours might be thinking is just the key word win the heating night like bookie like Klay Crap. That's huge so The fact that there have been new books and he can be an old inflict with the chaos Gods incisiveness. He is very versatile is pretty much a motivation. His BY ANY NOBODY. Who's pullman any chaos Scott Army and you he is a great tool for it I am surprised at how many Alarium That was one of surprise. And it's good to see And they go trick. I am not surprised by those numbers I actually was expecting more because for two thousand point on me if you WANNA get an Omni Dunk. Quake just paint him up by just to the rest later. You look at what's populace in order which is cities. He doesn't fit as well in cities as he does in everything else because as needs all of the all of those points to buy all of it tools to do the Job Sire. I think if it into cities better you probably say double digit tricks. I I really wish they allow him to be in that book. Just be like Hey McKay word like imagine him on campus I cool. Let's do something. I think it'd be cool but yeah we have no go on our. We have one goal Goal track. Yeah we do we do any what valleys review so I think there is at least one go. Drake Cope Surprise Nice. Surprised that I can see the chancellor asked me a whole bunch of other things. I want to know different pots. Unfortunately I didn't look at thank. Well I didn't know a lot of things I don't remember there being thankful but Feel free to check yourself. Clinton you publish the list already. So feel free to Yes ben. Spaghetti Volturno is a character. There's lots of like millions of characters. Chill out it's actually probably multiple ten assists in there. I'm Rathi is I think he's I think he's. He's got a point that there are a few thanasis. These here are this is about the most expensive ones that we have. Tennis is also a hero. Most expensive running moving along on the same weekend we have. Lv Oh that's happening. L. Veto is one of America's largest events in they their ages seek mall tournament with one hundred sixty nine Players so a little bit smaller than us and there was an interesting put out the other day by Dan. Shorts and he'd sit that there's something on nine hundred fifty mortar. God I put out a post to ask. How are we tracking and the good news depending on how you want to look at? It is that we have seven hundred ninety. Motech God so what is shined. Esl's yeah this with that. More Tech. God thing I think much April here. How running When we look at the list and when you see the list for a lot of them actually quite heavily based on the police that binds box so a lot of people both at box and just got the more technology and put extra bucks to and they didn't do what America did we by like. Thirty of just the separate God and Dr Nonce one of the best units in the Book Dr. So it's what makes sense that you would say them. It's cool to save at some and like I don't want to go into rb albums. Some people obviously literally pick cool models over like OJ models. Robert Wise's in this list like wise it. They're like you're not using it like effectively by just the modal like the harvest. San Clock Razor really good point as well as to say that So there are other. There are other dying on hold so I mentioned the MOTECH. God the chain. Ross Perot Garrison hundred ninety coming six hundred and sixty clan rats. Six Hundred Blake monks. Three hundred sixty hotrod BAZOOKAS. A three hundred skeletons. Two hundred sixty grottes to fifty minutes to thirty crypt goals and Michael. You mentioned you know. Six hundred plague monks even off. Do they had their wall? Scroll rewritten so Very interesting to see how they play out and if that was decision that they just road the wolves grow change or if they found. Some new secret tick that. They're going to tap into a Cancun so many semi dying hood. I think I think playing still good and they still make up bulbs of like the. You've got six hundred plates but you'll find it like a hundred and twenty at a time will be in a bunch of lists like there's a lot of lists that have lots of play Play lumps in. Yeah burnoff where we look at the allegiances and again. We've just looked at the top six for this particular one to see of the Legion where they coming. So maybe you want to start getting ahead across the days when it comes to CD's of Sigma there are nine thousand nine hundred eighty two sigma lists and we can see that. Hallo hot is the one that dominates the most eight of the nineteen that are coming from. Hello heart that's the magic based on city fully by what kind of an even spread between angle. God Gray water fossils have a whole living city tempest? I which has indefinitely benefits when it comes to shooting. They They kind of coming in second How does surprise either review a we expecting more of tempest Iowa? What's your take. Liam always expecting more Hamma hole but Jala hop parts enough is interesting in my opinion but It's good to see living city And Yeah also. I really want to see more Abbott. God so I can just see mobile hydros. But that's just me. But Yeah Heller huckster really strong are even with the with the adjustment that I got on the Arado. They're still have wizards the get to spills h and you get rewarded for taking wizards in the in game. Whether it's going to be lots of magic and with it Cancun being in the rooms of Rome of Garin having access to the spells I think pallor hot was the natural choice. Yeah is it is your response to Petro Fixes. Well I think people have Nonni. I think people have been going. How hot list have been playing? How probably from the start of the book? Maybe going wizard heavy and that book came up before Patrick's elite. I think what you'll see now is heartfully. These plays wake up. Is They start realizing that? It's going to be so much magic now. Thanks to Z. H. Coming in especially now since that book came out and we still got a few plays. And it'll probably just increase off to Cancun by those. Stop going to the of allegiance and stop playing with them but Yet that's just my opinion that Think there is the sigma players have had they list set on even before. It'd be our Gamal charge which was as second most popular list submissions We've got blood. Gullit which is clearly the one that's leading the charge when we have bold ahead then is a kind of a little bit of a spluttering between meat fist under guts and winter bite go nothing. WanNa say he obviously will dig a little deeper with the list is making sure. WanNa Chat Chat has definitely been calling me out here on this particular one. So the ossie Osborne rape is there. Eighteen lists and eighteen coming from picture fix a leaked boy. That surprise me not not. I remember. I was talking to you about this people. That's a Mike. I'm GonNa be the hit stop bringing in Moore's Pretoria's and you literally talk me out of it you said but didn't know about it are you. Sure it's a good idea blah blah blah. I could have been that one person. Yep Not surprised co glint. I've I've really nothing to say on that. I think I think it speaks for itself and I think one yeah. I think what you'll find is you'll you'll see Teams at attainment. Jada looking at some of the staff at some going okay. That's that's where we need to to divert attention also. Lv again just big late. Nineteen lists and all of them have been petric's as well so one weekend forty lists forty Petra. Fakes like yeah and Scipio said lanes trying desperately to avoid the topic of staying on him chasing the Cancun so liam chase the end that's done. I'd Meditate Cain we've got an and Domhain Represented probably from the strength of the fifteen Yeah five slayers basically old coming from one lodge almost Gasoline and then finally Zetsche We've got a bit of a spread when it comes to inch but certainly one that stepping up more than others respect to these H. Plays because they literally have about time for less than two weeks but to be honest. Well sorry there were some people who brings inch beforehand And I just got stronger. They are no proably. Where are the knowing's inch? Players are probably four. That were already or always going to be. Breen's intra sorry I think as you're saying for example Ashley Q. And he was always GonNa take it like take. The new book was like. Aw cousy what happens? Because he didn't know if it's going to be a huge shakeup if he had to paint more whatever but Yeah I've played against it and it's strong like that book is super strong so it's good bent spaghetti sauce me. If there's a shot count there is no particular shot count in this but if you want to use twitter or you want damn me or use the facebook page message when you go to particular death that you'd like to know. I know I think somebody asked me. About how many. Oga Glutton's would be in the list as well for free shooting Shoot me a message. Happy to share some of the stats when it comes to are the list that have been submitted to can basically. It's not safe to go in the water band. That's all I'm saying. It's the shot count. There were a few shocks. Probably not as many as ben would like maybe once less shocks. He's e- special and unique. Now surprised by the amount of shock so I was surprised by that of so great as we had. There's a whole bunch of Grinded coming and more than just one playoff match most of the play. Let's keep going all right. So we've got the most chosen Audifax. Thanks thanks for keeping me on track John. We've the amulet with twenty two selections. We've eighth quotes broach coming in with seventeen sixteen coming from thermal rata cloak. Sixteen coming from God borne Armagh. So before anyone asks me. If my numbers are incorrect have eighteen burn rape is an eighteen Petra fixed late but only sixteen god Bernama. That's because two of the lists only have named heroes so they actually don't have a regular hero That could take the Bernama. So that's why the numbers look we'd if you WANNA call me out on those yes. Why are they wrong? Not why you can't because one lists only hasn't a gashes sole hero and the other one I think is can the black and negate all it's like all can and isn't it like maybe allies will something yeah it was basically to named characters. No other heroes. Sorry Other than that. We got the Griffith Chums flava the Tarn slayer club and the list goes on guys are I might post as on on twitter later on but can start to see the ambush flavor the going Clo- The shroud of won't fly a flame. Soul faith brandis. Fahd that we just the way the stave they Guys Strike Soda Judgment Skull shod Mantle and connect scales coming in as the top twenty selections Leeann what's your take on. A what. Why why seventy people taking the likes of the ethereal amulet and the eighth quotes Birchenough. Emirati quote I think the theory amulets really good. Because it has one of those artifacts gonNA keep being useful does ignoring rand especially. If you're charges go to three up save mystic shield. Benny Command point in the here on the Kaaba face. Original one serves a three really ones ignoring old rent on ethical as Brij due to the fact that Command can only be but once and they can get batons as well but getting to be able to retain them is a really good democratic like people who love to fly over charges like magic keeper secrets flying are about killing the heroes. Will Guy God by Nama? It's not effect that they have to take Petra fix And ignoring the first week of every phase is ridiculously strong. So like Noah's complaining people are GonNa take it So yeah like seeing those top full. It doesn't surprise me Any kind of The're amulet really needs to be fixed in a way because it's a lot of things like for example we say in death where it's like a must include vampire load So Y- like I. I would love that role to be changed or something to be changed because It's just too good and they said even some people will take it with a fork. Save like I saw some people from Google Guys with a theory amulet just have a concept for save. So yeah it's really good and as someone else said Stern. Once in model Michael Penny said The amulet on the more crusher. Steinhorn is the trend that we're seeing right now. That's a lot of those Ethereal military going up to bathrobes safe conduct Monsters had three up save makes Really Drubel whenever massive targeted kill so. Yeah Clinton anything you want to add to that now. Don't really have anything to decide you. Actually although it would be interesting to see what the numbers will like if you took out all the compulsory out effects where people given choice to say but I suppose your first three they are obviously known compulsory but then like number four and before six seven. There's a bunch in the IT'd be interesting to see how that splits when check out the compulsory ones provided mini yet like midnight which is a Deacon one is super strong shutting down here Shading and stuff is really good. So it's really breaded fod is coming from all of you know. Ogm More tribes so Yes you're right. A lot of these artifacts that dictated by the the civil agents people are taking. But what isn't being being chosen by? The sub allegiance is the endless spell so I'm a big magic person. I love my magic went from gets Magic to Hallo hot magic yes. I am one of those eight hello players by off the of the endless bills being chosen we can see the twenty coming from the bio in vortex. Rottweiler double by you would also sixteen with vortex that's really awkward. Clint you keep talking while I quickly stolen actually get the actual current number right. Okay Here we did say los by four Texas and lots of Which I'm not surprised met with playing in Garen side here doesn't like enhanced healing on the endless spells And then I was really surprised to to see how many How many of the barn rapist spills with at Barrandov? Drako days like yes. There was quite a few on. I was very surprised that people had points for. Just look looking at the numbers. Sorry this is an input era. That first one is Jimmy. So they're twenty Jim needs. Baleen DISEASE IS SIXTEEN. So gymnasts is the number one choice of endless spell. So that's that's good because that was confusing because it was not in your list anyway and Anita with some Yeah Clinton how to give Anthony of this job again. His chart we but pretty from jam needs sixteen from the bowing. Vortex Emerald Live Swarm Sixteen. The Thai Sri Cow Coming From Barn rape is at twelve chromatic calms seating ten. The malevolent mellstrom is the one that Kinda surprised me at nine where the really nights ten points cheeky on blind you just fit it in. You can put it into your list and still get a triumph. It's quite good. If you've got a list that doesn't have too much magic in Because that extra chances unborn can be quite useful to So Clinton to get back to what you were saying about. The burn rate dispels burn rate. Been there in a really weird place where the points a kind of odd because they always econ once he hit the one thousand nine hundred point. Mock you confident anything more outfit. Anything else like an. It's so it happens when he fitne- I get up to nine hundred. Like what can I add in Khadr adding like Fridays or something instead but Juanita Multitask So since the carrying twenty points the predators forty and same with the free. I'm pretty sure you to squeeze them in because that pretty much one hundred points of Ms Bozo you gotta stand against the argument on the other side is do you try to go for the triumph. This point for the triumph and Barbara vis. Because he's calling them. I'm not talking barn. Rabies. I'm talking generically when you start looking at some of these things thought. Low talking about of how many burn repaid spells. They work but what you said make sense Liam like if you get to nine hundred thirty the cheeky Throw Eighty points spills. You still got a chance of triumph you would you? Would you can't use you. Can't use the triumphs. When he played Bernard 'cause that that he's feeling early you're not getting into she'll say if only you could die because they're really underpowered on me so I look we need them both shut up shut. Her need help but for like credit cards PALISADE. You've got five. Slayers are firewall. You've got quicksilver swords spelled poodle. The White Walk Lightening Vortex from Stephen. We've got the of pendulum. The Nightmare Predator coming for Soul snare shackles grave tied scuttle tied coming from Bloomsburg Gates. Sylvan's spied swim hive. We've got the soul stealer. Karen Hicks Gorgeous skulls and named the purples on top twenty in Louisville's coming so a anthony. Sorry to interrupt but do you have an endless spills. Palest everage does we have that Elliott Eight is not something that Ryan has done I can't Thera- Yeah there are some lists that have six. Oh seven in them are throwing that average up. You've got some gets list and you got some like hello hot least send. You've got a few lists that have really you know. There's this truce ended the spectrum. You've got people of taking five. Then people have taken like one or two or even none are and and I think to You Know People like Sarah Fun as well. Saraf on almost like you come to the the battle with a bail in vortex straightaway to help with the summoning so They probably boosting up those sixteen bio wins Quite easily other remember seeing any commits flexi I've got one. I think there was about four four comments again. Yep There there are some comments. You know we've got some other brand of endless spells but These are the top twenty this eighty or is it. Eighty four sixty four and with spells. There are currently sixty four in will spells available. That's updated with the full. The three news. Inchon's Sinus so many choices for character and overloads the final dot said. I'll share with you guys before we get into our favorite lists is some other things to consider one is going to be the battalion. So there are few dominant battalions. The feace coming out of the jaws loads of large coming out of the Feis layers supreme civil rights as a OBEA. Ni- some what he's slash. That should stop character. That was that was a question mark author. I said that not an exclamation Doug That's why we answer violation. Do Me and we've got a whole bunch of other ones like the Goldman the the shield Colt from OPR thunder. Quake is coming out from a surf on friends. We've got the white the wildfire retinue coming from hello heart. Tards applaud skull change host Schratt God so interesting Change host. We know there are nine inch lease coming and four of them have the change harvest so Shrek God play touch Waban blights. The the Keio won the grunts stock escort wing and then etc etc so whole bunch of losing one's Multiple is most of them especially the loads of like how many slices store that nine ten ten so not skirt. Bay Hit Stuff. Go fifth screw. You met a screw you just quickly before going to spells Anthony Quick question at in the facts that Gash in Aachen. No all the spells of the spell low of Erba. It's whatever has no this is this is us. This is generated from What he submitted on People's lists so if they've written down every single list spell then yes if fire pure US Donna. This yeah this is. This is spells that people have selected angle every. Let your ticket. Yeah Yeah I think just summed up submitted with all the spells under the Gash on just took it out. Because it's it's just you're just taking up space. Take very excited. He's the one and only volt of souls and will spill just calling that out as well for him but they WANNA go battle. He's uniquely Special Shutout to take And then finally as a whole bunch of spells if you're interested or concerned or want to know more about these spells things like rip cracker from the Oguz. We've got more more more willpower coming from Stephen Prayer of Ashes Faisal as etc etc born of damnation the Great Doug Great big green hand of Goeke. Searing wounds roaming wildfire. Cy Feel free to screen. Shot the girl research. If you're concerned or interested in any of these spells because again they might be coming to a game table new if nothing more if you see these. These are the ones that you want to dispel. I hear it's the had blown a donation Mojo. Yeah yes those yet. Clean it by the way you have. You have published all the list. Where can people find the least if they want to kind of follow along with maybe watch this? Go look at the least often this video. This will be available on the heads of a website now. Heritable dot com slash Cancun. Dalby update after this Currently they're viable in the coal to glory. Facebook event And then I believe The Dan From Iowa shorts will be making inviolable. Its website all-star Kulsum and if people WANNA watch the livestream eighties kicking off. This will Australia. It is this Saturday if you're out in the US or the UK. It'll likely be happening on your Friday but Saturday. The twenty fifth. What's the twenty in front of it today? The twenty fifth We are kicking off. It is six rounds Clint We've published the scenarios in advance as well entities in the realm of Geron so Rome spells and as well AS Roma fix earning play. And if you got an endless spell that comes from Iran you get to tap into that benefit yes our. I recommend that anyone who's coming. Go and read. The spell read the correct version of the spills of being asked a ton about to mirror pool But that rotted about twelve months ago so Yeah go Radel the spills and make sure you're up tonight on the ARADO. Everything sided. Yeah you can be prepared especially miracle shout out to Miracle Joe Grima said Do people know there's a teleport yes spot? It is a modified version. Do go read the updated. A few people angriest people seem to be the one who haven't read properly sir. That's that's that's not true for everyone who doesn't like it but yeah the angry messages. I've gotten a people who aren't using the erotic vision Farrell Fair enough. Should we get into some lists? That's why the people here anything you guys want to add and just kind of distorted for a minute while I bring these up rights. How's life thing? We've got the list or redoing we're going through dissection. Yeah let's start with destruction shutout destruction of friends Friends from destruction. I think They were the third most represented faction. And we've chosen the way we're GONNA do this. Eased given that theories like hundred enormous thirty lists. We are going to choose some of our favorites whether they are top ten contenders twenty contenders ones. That are really interesting. Ones that we thought were the stronger of the build. There are a lot of similarities between certain builds. Bought their monitors across the way so Wakeling some of the CAITLYN's if we don't talk about your list it doesn't mean that you're Garbage it just pains twelve hours to do at least review. Tell you go at least as good. You protect your gently in Cancun. It's going to depend on the mat chops. Which is likely what we would have said depending on who you are and how much we like you so does alpha. I'm I don't WanNa baby twelve hours a love your kill me all right. Let's talk. Let's let's bring up. Ben Camden Smith on me just brings up a little bit easier. Figo's to say so. Bring Candy Smith a Ben. Kennedy Smith is bringing the I. Angels' allegiance he's coming from the wall clan of the Einsteins and he's the mortal realm of hitch. What does he bring to the table? Yeah he's bringing a mega boss on more crush on. The general is coming with the Bosco. Hacker ENTROPA DETROIT is the right fist of the duck. Bad is going to be a nightmare. The fact is the son blissed Alma. The mountain trade is the main pretty go drake as well so probably one of the released from memory data bringing go. Drake as opposed to a mega ball. So we've got both Oswego go. Direct Anamika boss about Gaudreau is bringing them out. Try All the Weeden. We have a Wall chanter actually tubal chances. One is coming with eighth quotes and fixing Bait. While the other one has the kilobytes. He's bringing a three units of pigs. Three minutes apiece three peaks three peaks four units of three pigs in the goldfish battalion. Kicking off what do we think of of Ben Candan Smith and the Bacon List? I picked this one because I still cakes and go DRAC and I was sold. That was the gym. I was like this is cool. This list is actually going to surprise. People have fricken faucet is it will be. If you're going to give them time he will be in your deployment said and you're probably not going to lay for a little while. It's the best way I'm going to describe it You've played against something similar to this right. At the play I have played been bins. List are very very very similar if not the list and it's tough. It's very tough. I want to give away. He strategy but certainly He really wants to charge you. He is going to get a whole bunch of benefits to charge you. He's got a double potentially destructive bulk one coming from from the different more crashes in the list any tended really WanNa make the most all Of that command point that he's going to spend that's going to whole bunch of Joe is going to increase or decrease the range of there's a lot of benefits he when we start looking at these lists. Yeah I would. Yeah it's it's a very fossilized and you'll probably get stuck. Say Your Love Your love to pigs pretty much used to see lots of them and now we are and that's right. I think I missed like they sold the sales report and said let's make these guys good. I cut were units. Where they're going to do I think for me to be questioned. Certainly for May. I got punished by the first iteration of this list. Wear way. Ben Had I think he had to just had one more crusher. Behead more pigs in the list and you know this type of lists and their other types of list a going to try to teach you and they wanna try to make the most of a single judge You know you've got to think to eat good think to yourself. Can I handle the tally more crusher and gorge wreck hitting may end? Can I handle that Sorry how can you absorb that much damage? And then how? Hot Heating back That's that's the question you would ask yourself this list but I really liked this one one of the reasons I was really happy to talk about it and the reason why I picked this list. Somebody just pigs the fact that he had go. Drek of what those very different especially since attract can actually be a massive based in combat when he gets always puffs and stuff going on really coolest. We'll pick the other the other I enjoy list and these are friends in a chat right now. That is the overlord himself. Joel McGraw. The Joel Gras is taking nine. Joe's list he is elected not to go and sons So he's not going down that agencies going general I enjoy so he'd taken into. It's got some similarities. He's got some differences so he's got a double mega bus on more crush up so he's not going with DRAC. He has the Tube Wall. Chances he has the full units a three pigs and he's got the battalion He's brought an extra command point And we can see that. He hasn't gone the theory amulet. He's decided to go so he's hasn't gone. With eight. The colts broach. He's decided to go with the ambulance dead. Which is obviously ignoring rent on the bulk. Russia which I believe has a base of three plus safe based on a three up. Save What are you saying difference? This list is at the megabucks crush but his general is going to be pretty hard to kill because the widow and I think he knows spells and stuff on a four in a theory amulet he is now ignoring rent so pretty much that Mo- crusher is going to be sticking around no matter how many all came boats. Oh pendulums you throw at it and it's GonNa come in and kill you on the big thing as well as the I. This is only like an extra day six. Move been on the. I think it was like fifteen. Whatever goal fisticuffs? It's so much quicker. So he is a bit more. He can't play bit more defensive with this list. With the amount of Wayne's he has from those piggies so this this is very much like not in your face but he can be. He wants to do so. It's a very interesting. Take the whole pig euless and I quite like is listening of I was GonNa do an I enjoy this. Probably the competitive one I would pick in my opinion. Say It's fun. It looks cool as well more. Add to that all right well and to be honest with Joel. Mcgraw is not only represents the the overlords of gaming but also is a master's level player as well someone who Certainly you winning tournaments and is really guide to challenge for the top ten if not going through podium Sur. Certainly someone that I would want to watch out for the next one from the list will pick is We'll go to go to my little favorites. Who who who wants to do the big the big log. Let's focus on the little dog and we're going to pull up three glimpse by lists here all very different I'm very excited about the first one. Here is Jason. Jason is running a very much a trough. Famed GLIMPSE BY GETS list. One is gonNA check the Dank hold trump boss which balloons gain and got guys strike but to fungoides Cave Shamans one has averted Mitchell One has the hand of Gawk as spell while the other one has itchy nuisance once to teleport and ones that a modest wanted to hit. We have a unit of six rock. The the mother fell water with a rock trots. We have unit a three Rock up at three Rook Gut three fill water troughs three Phil when a truck golfs To compliment that we've got twenty studies. We've got Twenty status we've got twenty steps and we've got the truck heard battalion to go along with these. Two spells one is scuttled tied. Probably my absolute favorite animal spell. I wish I had still today. And Jimmy needs one of our first of many jemma needs So this is coming in a total of nineteen seventy with additional command point obviously from the battalion thoughts on this particular list. We don't see many trout's people going to be able to handle these. These really rock cod units orally. I'd say maybe as I can But they are going to be wrapped in I imagine they'll be wrapped in status. Said that you're not actually fighting trump and then they'll just what be whacking stuff over the top itchy nuisance is. They thought advice about yet. Desire super important in the Mirror to have that spill in your army And then obviously you've got Scuttle tied which is just a fantastic fantastic and the spell for thirty points I I'm really excited by this list. Because it's full of tropes which is not something that you see all the time but it's also those those bodies from established to to hold objectives as well. I think it's cool trump of really. It's an interesting battalion but it's a lot of points for does win. Rose six plus one damage yet. If an UNMODIFIED wound role of an attack is made by in the melee. Phase is a six you. Add one to the damage characteristic. Yeah and a photo is really interesting but he really went. Msu pretty much us Because if he did like two years of Six rock guts. I think that would kill quite a lot. But he does need a spread around the board. But I write this is I think it's interesting to see what it looks like on the table. The fungus cave shamans on a full plus h round again generate additional command point which we fascinating to see how he uses that on top of that. Obviously you've got guys strikes. We've got an absolute Bait stake when it comes to the lead in combat. The thing that you've got to remember as well is. I'm assuming Jason's going to bring his allegiance terrain piece which is going to allow him to shoot those units of twenty Stop die on a full posse can bring it back to a half strength unit so you could hand hand of Gawk. A unit or twenty up the board climate objective die they come back as a unit atten- inflame up the board again so potentially a really interesting strategy and potentially could travel at a fun on the scuttle tied which is my personal favourite. Endless fell as allow you to drop down essentially wall But it happens Nixed terrain pace within one inch of terrain. Pace does damage If he end a move or charge think within six of it. Sorry the Nasional White to get to a backboard potentially hit something that you you realize you damage. Wait may whether it's a a catapult whether it's you know a a hero sitting behind the scenes I really like it. Nothing these robots could could be hard to take down so many ways. That's obvious and the trolls can regenerate as well so And there are plenty of ways to to to bring those wounds back so Good Cold Jason. If you want to add to this Ma. Clint I shook my. I'm looking at you. I'm trying to look at lists always looking at me. Actually you don't even on my screen You're actually not hidden behind the whole wool of documents The next coming and one about friends coming over the ditch from New Zealand. So one of the two from the notorious Podcasts so check them out. This is Shaun top men who is bringing the glimpse by kits. He what does he bring? He's bringing very spider based Glimpse Viking list. What you'll find is bringing. He's bringing an endless spilled list with some stuff to put around them. I put on not my list. Nothing is it the spider last night. Forty antic bunch of Costa's sorry can Pachuca Jupiter to end the spells out. Yeah no the boys late wide. It's Josh sorry I saw that. We've seen a shower. And I Jesus all right here. We nameless bellies. What an engineering. Sorry sorry. So what have we got We have the web spinners Shaman on a rack up spider. Wilkin row with Euro amulet and is taking a spider a spider. Thanks BELCO sneaky destruction. That's the modest hits. You've got a whipping Shaman. Which had the gift of the Spider? God You have up the Lune King at which is the general And he has the hand of Gawk. He has a funkaway Cape Shaman. With the the great green spot which is a demi stealing spell. He has a unit of forty shooters. Forty shooters twenty shooters. Twenty shoot as six rotgut troughs and he has one two three four five six seven and we'll spells which is the eighth avoid pendulum. The bio in vortex cornerback cubs gymnasts Quicksilver swords The the coldren and then finally the scuttled tied coming in at a neat two thousand points. This is very much an endless list. Being blocked by a wall of hundred and twenty girls Man Like that's it's. It's end the bills with some buddies to put around and protect your stuff. That's what it is also top system playing by for a while now And I think this is a very different list to what he usually running. But I think this is super. It's super good. Like the fact that he went to shoot isn't so established was interesting because most people got status so I think he is very much holding back quite a bit and describe the range threat so yeah I think he's good he's actually a New Zealand Mazda level as we would like to say so he's want to look out for as well and derided. I think it's coolest as well yet. He certainly someone that's done well in the New Zealand. Same End looking at the New Zealand contingent. They are they coming in. And there's some quite strongly coming from across the ditch. Maybe they're looking for residency. I'm not sure box. They are coming in with a very good lists. Yep Cool what's the next one is the next one. Actually the spotted list finalist Jay's once they happened and by the spider list by the Josh Sta the Diet Jurong judge thoughts down. Hurry if the Diana's long in a long line of Josh bringing ridiculous armies Cancun so josh two years ago brought warhead befalls. I would really a thing. So that was that was pretty awesome and then this year he is definitely Doing the same thing again. Look look at all. Those spiders Olas battalions on the spiders Dalton having a wings like where this fight as they are on spider right as five spider riders. Five spider riders find riders. No I haven't go to start up. Twenty five spider riders coming on top of this scuttle boss on a giant spider. We have a waste. Bin Sham on Iraq. Nope we have always been a shaman. On Iraq Iraq one has the headdress of many is and sneaky destruction while the others walking around with the graph charm and the gift of the spider. God we also have an erector spider with a fling And Iraq ropes by with the the Spider. Fang will paci on top of that. He has a colder which has spider legs he has also you know you does end the scuttle tie which is the wall of spiders. And they're all neatly packaged up in three battalions essentially with. Yeah I think to the little uncertain one of the big ones are. Yeah and then. Obviously they holdren gives his spot a wizards access to the moon. Plan spells Bills he can teleport again Do the the is the fight. Lost a couple of bills. You might tap into some sodomy lottery fleeced. Is it just cool whilst we like this? It's it's the one drop off anymore. It's drug spider on me is going to decide who's GonNa give us a cold. Come at my spies milk. Come out like it's like I I just I. Just WANNA sodas list. I just loft and I thought this was awesome. Awesome to to actually. Who's freaking out saying? He's having flashbacks to lost. You in a spider rider jumped on his back into barbecue so nightmares for days. Not for days bots very cool. It's very interesting list. Obviously spot is going to cause a few people nightmares. He's got a whole bunch of additional stacks. They can really do a whole bunch of mortal wounds on the charge and combat. So if he if he rolls off tap it's GonNa make go so many more wounds it's ridiculous saw. A bunch of stacks is going. Be Able to bring that number down to five. Were full is going to be able to do double damage on. Some of those said is a whole bunch of little sneaky wise it. He's going to do a whole bunch of mortal wounds. Yup Go have we people yelling at us? We need to go to the list's we are. I guess we could do by. Splittism ARGUES CHANGZHOU. We make them white. The Austin Watch that WANNA do it. Let's do let's say by his fist but his first Locking subscribe if you want me to actually do the Oguz box. Let's talk about the bone split as they could be an interesting one especially because drag drag foot. He's going to cause a few people a headaches. Especially maybe my Phoenix God. So the BEIN split his upbringing. We'VE GOT A. We'll go prophet which has got a whole bunch of cool stuff like five bowl. It's got the The savage blob the brutal based spirits. We've got a savage war boss with Bernie Tattoos. We have medic weird knob which has the cunning base spirits and five bowl. We've got a double up through a trip five. Oh we've got three people with viable and we've got to walk dog With the breath of Goku and fiber a whole bunch of five goals coming at job that twenty savage Rx we got twenty seven Rx Arab boys our boys and then we have allied six rotgut troubles. Not only that. We've also got the rogue idol That'S ALL NOT NASI. Pappy shop with a cunning rock with a total of two thousand points. Cutting ruck isn't as powerful as it used to be. Should people still feel the bone split us? Yes Yup because he's got a road autumn. That's why Greg is a pretty cool. Our Ford Road Model What why do we feed them? Liam out draft would exclude screws. You're off to save Theory Elysees ignored theory Theory not theory amulet as the case thing so only theory amulet heroes there but these guys are ignored. Like nine Horn stuff connects extricating. I think it's delegated to shoot him. The hero of as what about still good is this chip damage. Like the chipping away Like it's still good list. It just reminds me of what But as it is was two years ago in my opinion The trump or an interesting choice for allies but think he was going to be holding a sectors because they can regenerate and do some damage as well see boy sounds good. I like it. The CHECH- revolting against me people want me out of my own show. So I'm going to quickly pivot to the to odorless we're going to pull out. One is heightened walker collapsed the featuring self pandering to the masses pandering to the masses I'm sure the Patriot. Dole is again a role in any minute not retire and be a Hashtag content creator bought. Someone who needs no introduction? Is the himself? Who's clearly not going? He is going up potentially the lowest least in the entire Cancun. I don't think anyone's going with any list. Model Than Hayden Walker whose walk around with the OGM all tribes. He's going with Blood Gullit's and he's coming from Iran. What does he brings the table. We have a frost Lord on Steinhorn. Which is the general trait with the nostril of the red stuff? We have the effect of the split cleaver and the map trade off the black clad horn we have a husky on fund tops the Blunt Vulture and the prayer of caning gay. Oh we have a husk out on Sunday ties with blood vulture and the pulverizing hailstorm which basically what happened to me. When I lost tricky for three hours we have starting home. Based riders. Steinhorn based ride is starting homebase. Ras Feeling out. He's he's battleline coming at a total of nine thousand nine hundred eighty his seventy three wounds. He has one two three four five six models in Tuchel holy shot six models. This is super easy to bring to a tournament. He is going to have fun. What we think of this. It's Kinda Fun and recreation was thyself. What's going to happen? Why why is it going to wreck people's face it's only six models but they count you forgetting one thing to count his ten. The count is ten models each okay. So that six balls. They're actually count as sixty models so and they do quite a damage so he's literally if someone just has like a chat line of like ten muddles just comes in and takes out boom guppy objective. It's GonNa do well yet really well Clinton anything you want to add to this other than the fierce typing to your to your friends to say. Hashtag are fully fully the courage and And Join Patriot. I do apologize for the talk being just being made of of made aware of a alistair. So I'm just chasing that someone. Should we call out here day incorrect? List Nari Nari this. That's made this to unsteady lists. I was bound to miss something. Sorry this army is going to be interesting. It's got he's got to play quickly yet. I it really well for him or really badly very quickly and then he can piss off and go to the shops at by cool swag while he's down they He's also be working on this army to convert as well sire We need to call that outside. I think people will enjoy playing it because it's something a little bit different. It's notable hairy beasts gaps allows time. I look there's a lot of hailing is going to be a lot of cool stuff. He's got some range threats coming from the hospital funded Tostados blood vultures. He is going to do a whole whole bunch of damage Do a mortal wounds on the charge is going to be a whole bunch of additional stacks in some cool things That height is going to do. He is not going to be going to. Poli tool five. The full five rounds he is GonNa Smash in the face. He's going to have fun and I think certainly be happy to play list L. He's such to play. So if you're getting smashed still have a good time because it's good player someone who isn't a good player. An on going to lose to is Mike. Mike Round One Grudge Zoe. Playing against Cook actually died. Disliked Is Created. Really like seth that's a joy place. Don't go attack Chemo will might why raving fans are going to attack. Pulse stiff. But Seth is awesome. Dude he is my round one match up. I'll be playing against him in a garage. Which is more play dates? What is going to be happening? He's going to be bringing the Komo tribes similar but very different list. I think it's a very strong. Bill probably wanted to watch out for a bit of a dock host. He's bringing a frost Lord on stone with Amulet and the middle crunch up We've got a frontload on Steinhorn. We've Brandis Fahd and deep black clad hole and we have a frost Lord Old Steinhorn with the belligerent. Shaw we have an ice brow hunter. Which is the general on the Lord of based we have two units of Frost Sabres. We have A Twelve Oga Glutton's and we have to lead. Belches we have the skull Italian coming in nineteen eighty holy shots. Am I GONNA get out of here to push gene in round one Do you want the honest answer? What LEON HONEST BE HONEST? I mean your very person you very well thought out your opinion to please tell me aren't gonNA loss long okay. Why till till the masses? Why I things you're gonNA take motor winds from the metal crunch an end. The frost lonestar horns by for them Probably do some serious damage Especially the US Yeah I I write this list. The one thing I daren't right is having three. I don't startle wants. I think you should change one of them to a thunder tusk greenhouse The Best May Lead boches could've easily been another command point Twos not worth it but yeah I think if he can take out at least one or two of those first Lords Goods in if you can still have mercy on me and tax. And if you don't forget about shadow warriors. I think you good. Clint anything you want to add. I think you have very good on Plato. We're GONNA have a great game. I have a strategy of survival strategy of victory. I'm looking forward to seeing how seth and I battle on. The table should be a good one. But I think there's definitely going to be a- again on a list that people may struggle to have answers to if you have three charging starring horns coming at you line. Can you handle the amount of damage? The office brow hunt is going to be able to take a unit and Britain inside board with those potential frauds. Abe is the glutton's that ignore Steles in endless spills a four plus or is it the lead belshaw but as I got the guts on thinking of side someone else's got that But I think he has a whole bunch of tools. That could be fun. The second loss destruction list will talk about is Someone who Napoleon each no no introduction because he tells everyone in every opportunity that he won Cancun two years ago and he's back at but he's going to be running the Oga Blood Gullit. He's got the first load on starting hole in the ice brow. Hanta the slow to Boston. Which is a twelve other. Glutton's six aglow full I in guts full. I got six fro Sabz at two thousand points. This is a blend between the the the what was formerly the the dead buds The Gut Busters and the base chloride is coming together with an arsenal mix. Do we think Adam Bird Kane when Kane con again. I don't think this is the list of in Cancun But I think he will have fun with this because once upon a time to very fest can't Cohn at Umbro destruction with Organs and a bunch of Yetis and stuff like that suits very much In his regular wheelhouse to play with these guys so I think he'll be competent with them and sort of have lots of fun right in the middle tables which I think is actually. He's I am this year authentic. He's trying for another king win. I think he's just GONNA turn up. Have some fun Randall tables. I believe he has grown at. He ain't tubs Have a grudge from New Zealand Sir That would be a very interesting game. tubs is going for the hat trick of heralds. He's Bayton Myself Travis. He just wants to. Adam announce a complete is set. Yeah I yeah I think this is going to be winning at both. These guys upon it's got different tools and stuff. He's got a big base day. He's got a big Blah begin to do some damage. He saved some fun. While we've got the Hayden Walker Bill which is very much down one route and certainly very strong and not. This is certainly more utility list so Lots of tools in this I I like it. Obviously with his. We've chosen it. Well done to you and in the final destruction laced at we'll talk about is guide rephrase off from New Zealand He is running blood. Gullit as well and it's a bit of a mix as well so this is probably going done. More of the gut busting builds wait. The tyrant walking around with is a general with the nostril of the red stoff aesthetically Vaa Artifact and the FIGHT SAKE OF BIG NAME. He has a slow to Mazda. We'd dysfunction priest head the cracker and the blood feast spells. We have a butch. Oh wait the rib cracker and the Greasy Deluge we have full. I gots twelve Twelve Glutton's four lead belches full lead coaches to lead bilges on a wonderful battalion. Now it's the adapt very much. Gut Busters list. Isn't this is very much. Is there any any baseball writers in there? There's no Peace Corps Raiders It's very much looking like. He went and grabbed a fear. The basis of binds box spot. It's got heaps of words if anyone else looking at one hundred seventy four ways for people to chant very Also this little masters double dipping kind of strong some healing or whatever he can do. It's good Yeah I say how he goes Thank you need based Season Argus to be honest to do well. That's just my opinion but many many wins ridiculous. Hundred seventy one of the high ones. We know that the average Windsor and then hundred. Twenty to one hundred thirty route so Could be hard to take down so phrase phrase off Good luck would be a lot of fun with this one. But the two units at twelve o'clock We really hard to take down. Really go death next. We're not so let's start with the. Let's start with Probably the best sub allegiance with in-depth which is going to be Students is to West is coming all the way from was he at one of best buddies friends. He's come from Oak. Neha opening coming from okay so traveling along and he's bringing the best faction to play play with that his legion of night and it is led by the one. The only the best Manfred Manca Stein. Which is the general coming. We've pinions we have Harada coming in supporting and Aachen supporting as you'd expect. Manfred is your general. We have the Ken rice coming along as well. We have forty skeleton or ten skill to warriors. Fi Wolves. Four more ghosts We did three six charge and coming with an extra command point. Do we like this is GonNa win. Can't Colin Manford in there? I think is very good possibility that he could win. Cancun claimed of a Gra. Let's take the PISS showy It's it's darker twin. Can-canada believe Account say what you've got date Laham. I'm sure it's something like Liam Liam really loves to Manfred or something like that is what I can say. Definitely Sir. Yet basically student needs this list instead of submitted scuttle the multi OCCC and yet are being led by Manfred. Colson might. That's good because otherwise I'd Co bortles room stopped from entering the country So he's made the right choice. They look I think students coming all the way to have been a farm and And Hayes played a lot of Legion of nights over in the UK. Generally more of the the Zombie Dragon building things that but I think he's he's GonNa come here have a bit of fun probably dying the heat. Unfortunately for him sire fading plenty of team Tames. I hope to celebrate with a Lotta. I'm brew with him. A shoutout to the northern invasion podcast which is where he is from Great podcast across the ditch runs across the beach. We're on a little island Boss than across the ditch. Anthony anything like a small plane trip a little bit of sleeping tablets. It's basically the same distance. Liam I know you're being of Manfred now. Has the best list Emma on during you can tell who listens to his podcast in the chapter. Actually Joel McGrath's quoting quoting the song from the dot will at stuff so yeah now it is a good podcast and I played. I played stiffest when I went to buy sire. Is Greg going now having mind blanks? Who Sings at Seoul? Its please please put in a chat. Who Does the distance? Yeah I was thinking of the long jacket on butchering songs anyway. Shoeless lots list. I hope you win it because we can lanes face for the eternity next we have Jesse Perkins next so. We've got to flush into costly Spaghetti. Pull UP JESSE PERKINS COMING FROM. A border line gaming yet thank you. He is running flesh-eating co it's coming from He has a operation. He has the Gooky on a working on terra. Geist has a crypt Gos- culture forty crypt goals ten cripples ten crackles three horrid under the kings ghouls. I haven't you don't see much of the king's schools curious to hear what what he just doesn't win. Many games you know. That's fair. I mean he's a great. Dj maybe not a really good player and he has a chalice the endless spell cello. So he's GonNa be healing up a whole bunch of Royal Tar Goss. Lehamieu ARE AFFEC- man. What do you say when you look at this list on? This is actually really really really really strong. As if the summoning is going to be seventy Mohora's and flyers and maybe some goals when they are trained and the tear gas and stuff king. School was actually aiming to battle shock so the schools. That's pretty cool. Aunt running away An with the Charleston stuff. They'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK. So goals aren't going anywhere. I wish everyone the best of luck. And if someone actually kills oldest forty goes I will buy you a bottle of water to stay in. The hates like that will be your reward but succumbed by if you do it by free water with water cooler but shoutout to lambis generosity. So I made the gesture noticing Anthony God trying to like dip fees and killing forty goals. But yeah it's it's not going to die. I'm really sorry if anyone saying like oh I can kill forty goals forty goes. I was joking before. Today's list Jesse's good guy ours Pretty sure he won with his list last year at the dweller event but he's just recently had a kid so I think hobbies been taken away from inside. These is taking what he's gone by the way anyone anyone who's watching these stream we are talking ingest. We Love we love Jesse anyone. We're taking the Mickey out of it is just an Australian thing. We do If they really nice about you probably means you bought a in all seriousness. Jesse is an awesome dude. Please take anything. We've said he ought to seriously but It's wonderful little list. Obviously the two royal teric with the Chalice could be painful adding that additional threat coming out from the The the goals In a whole bunch of flooding the board and actually McEwen's already said that he can easily kill forty goals so Let's see how that goes free bottle of water? A free bottle of water in the first first person killed the forty goals come finally myself I WANNA see how that works and by the way or just being told that she has an eighty five percent win rate. We've he's Legion of not least sorry. pressure is on the fleshy. That coach at least will look at is joy pagano coming over from a Florida. He is a one half of the rage of sequel podcast again. Check them out. Subscribe like listen to them Awesome podcast what is he bringing something? A little bit different. He's got the ragent. He's got gooky. Unroll terror guys are Google King on world's drag densely Zombie dragons very often At least we go kings on anyway. If thirty crypt goals ten crypt goals tank rip goals and Allied culp. Scott and then he's bringing the Patrol Battalion Wave Chalice endless spell A little bit difference the roles. Mlb Dragon brings something a little bit different to the table again. You both being death plays. Where do you see when you look at this list? Uc Don't be dragons probably a little bit more than you're probably even credit and also Jaipur Ghana isn't from being from Florida. Originally this New York. Yes from you flaws Florida okay. What else did he say? It was supposedly all wrong 'cause you're his favorite dweller ahead sorry So it's a good list once again. Lots of goals a couple of big monsters. I love goop patrol simply. Because you have to shout it as you use it so you have to go patrol out as you use it. It's in the rules. Ferret entrees Congra- saying he's not GonNa make it to the tournament. I imagine because Randi with these round one Obe Landy. As he's known on twitter is going to crush his spirits and win the into the continental championship of seek mall. Yeah I have a feeling Dr People I'm pretty sure what's going to be on strain. I up sire. People get you see this list enact And we playing with the Grand Alliance. Death slashed him king. So that'll be a wonderful battle. If it's onstream lame answer that. Nah It's pretty good sport me a mainly say with vic these lists or I will bring up the APRIO. The the May himself The the Australian mouse to right now is material. He is decided not to take the burn. Rate is out for a Spin. He is bringing Doing his old five by taking the nighthorse in his own his it garden of souls with the nightmare. Landon he has a he has lady. Lynda has a spirit torment. He has forty chain. Ross hold ten. Green Gos- reapers nine spirit highest black courage among and ensure command point coming in at a nice nineteen ninety with one additional command point obviously from the purchase. So Matt is switching allegiances. He's always a death man. He's coming tonight horn. Has He got some secrets? Tick in this or is he for the lulls server. Good time but he will do the cause. Forty train routes poured legit I'm surprised about the Mongol You don't see that much anymore And you know he's hey for a good time because he doesn't have a blade Heller. Our whatever. That thing is but I think he's a good time because I don't know what do you think Clinton is it. Good file I'll tell you that away from him it would do well. Yeah I think he is just going to here As as Cliche this I think he's he had to have fun. I know that this is sort of pushed him to get some other extra models painted like he was a working on Kurt Austin stuff like that. Recently he doesn't have to do well because he's got free Pasta next. Mazdas so he can just kind of take the foot off. Count have fun it art in office. I think this is also like he's painting. Ought he wants to do well with the painting and they look. It looks really pretty so yeah. I mean like coaches of wonderful painting model. The Mongol is definitely going to stand out. Something you don't see very often on the table It definitely doesn't go towards a traditional new Idaho which is the flooding all chain. Ross greengrass rape is a lot of MSU style heroes kind of supporting all these hordes Very interesting build the of the night Hort Where I think most of you not homeplace of move to is your legion of grief and for this particular discussion But we finish with Matt Awesome We will bring up three differently when it comes to the Legion of grief. Which is certainly where I think. A lot of players have kind of moved towards from that not Haute. Oh maybe legion Makhachkala of moving into this particular builds The first one is aiden AIDS coming over from New Zealand. I'm told that his he is the New Zealand equivalent of Liam True story I heard that today. What now. That's that's on Aden. So harsh on. Aydin might say that. I didn't say that he's wonderful bloke What are the teams. The Drake Played Harrow Which is the General? We have the shrouds. We have the non shrouds on. The`real stayed we have a nick comments. We have forty chain. Ross forty chain Ross ten chain Ross thirty grim reapers and then something that I like saying More often is the twelve. Am On benches and then another unit of twelve. Meanwhile benches Finally wrapping up with an additional command points. So so what he does is he his. Omni any deploys on the table. And there's no room for the opponent to put their models day on and then he would. He has sorry many models I think he put up a picture earlier today of models that you couldn't quite fit them into the frame because if the just how many bodies he has sired Hey has played great Pretty personality meant yeah. Played it for a wall. This was a hate hate. He took it to the New Zealand. Mazdas he's taken it to a bunch of other events I think you quite will practice with it and Should do quite well. Yeah this is ache. Quick I this is like he's way pretty can get an Omni done in a weekend. He paid his army. I think in like four days he just wanted to prove a point of how easy it was and yeah he's a practice quit said in its they did quite well the MAZDAS. Yeah Okay. I suspect I m be the last one of the Harrow. But then incident bicycling. You can use it moving. Yeah you can use use the Howard move units around the table really easily. And which is it just gives you incredible flexibility Discuss Gash Ash Use them to affect when he was running nine hole course bark sitting in there to regenerate those additional command points which we know leading one stop bringing back the dead from the great sites if he can take downloads. Forty nine roths. Study Grim Gos- rapists that additional command. Point that Drake Light. Harare is going to bring back a unit so very very very potions however this is not the only dribbed played Howard. It's coming if we look at Kaethe Kaethe is another player coming around. We have Kate Williamson Creaky game is on Youtube shutout. Go check him out Doing REALLY COOL FUND BATTLE REPS. But he's also running legion of Grief. And in a very similar vein. He has the droid Harrow. As the general sang tremendous rate which is the vessel the craving craven King. We have a net commits a same spelled. The dread withering. We have the garden of souls on a nightmare. Nightmare Lanson and We also have a nice shrouds on the cereal stay. State also quotes broach. We have a spiritual man forty chain Roth. Forty chain. Roth's five Dia Wolves Twenty Blade Gos- twenty blood guys to chain Gust Chain House Additional Command point. I'm losing my voice I played against Two weeks ago and boy. Oh boy did he fled the boy with models and is it a payment that they would high movement and he can bring them up with that extra command point. What are we thought there? Yep it's been pointed out in the chat that The droid count move units in grief. But he can't teleport and bring stuff back so I misspoke on that I'm not Honi Canaan griffey because it's a normal compatibility yeah Match the May. Yep So case lists are cates list Once again Tana bodies and you definitely can't go wrong with Blake Garcia They also And he has quite a lot of them so I think they're going to be doing a bit of a bit of damage the he's got the nick Because why would you not It's it's an awesome list. Hated very well. Last year with I think legions of the Gash. He had legion anoint. So it'd be interesting to see how well case does this. Year age each traditionally a death player. He did really well with gates at Sydney slaughter as well. So he's He's a very talented player. And but he's is very much von. Kafe is is he's known on the on the Youtube spots Definitely Nice he's death inside and out. You seem you seem pop up all the groups playing all the different things. I think he was in the baseds group. The other night told you that baseless Tsai he's a across all this stuff which can only help us clear. I think yup claim anything. You WanNa add. Today's way guys reverence out awesome. They always all I can say legit. And if I remember correctly playing against Kafe every time you spent a command point he had opportunity to get back to get two chances to get conditions command point back so that was pretty crazy because he's always CPI farming and it was just a nightmare to to take him down and you take down the forty chain Ralph's and cheer for second and he just bring him back and we that high movement they'd backing facing no time sir. Certainly one to watch Kafe Final Final Legion of grief and I wanted to call this one acts. It's a little bit different as well. I think. I think a great will do well at a Cancun Has Some of the has the right tools? So why do I like this list and why we're GONNA call this one out so it has lady a Linda? It has different Nick Romance as a Trim. Bank she ended has code which I think is fascinating. We'll say got ten chain. Ross five die. Wolves Five Rules Five Black Knights one Copes Kat twelve me and my band cheese and a black coach and three spills. Emerald live swarmed. The Gym needs and place built place pronounce. That want to make multiple Montana's turn nexus. Now we by which we get an additional command point coming in at two thousand points on the dot very hero heavy. Noda's much bodies as some of the other not Slash Legion of lists Clinton as a deaf man. What do you see when you look at this? It's very interesting collection of things and I daren't Asari Dr Richard. Well enough I hate Richard is from. I think he's probably throw the dice So I actually met him And I'm not serve aware of what sort of play. He is But he's just got a very interesting mix of stuff they I don't think I've seen Nicaragua integrated yet but I think I think which I think he's still painting up. Yeah and quite a few endless spills which is interesting for the great lists. Cy I really. I really don't know how this list will But it it should look quite cool though because he's got some big Immortals than that so stuff yeah. Let's go here are slamming. that I think religion gravy need buddies. And he doesn't have buddies like yeah because you're not using the grace sites as well enough you'd be spending a Lotta points free bringing back stuff. So yeah that's just. My Opinion. Look a lot assemblies. Units probably not many flooding or something we've seen but that's how some of these legions work and deaf work. You need the Big Blob. So when they do die you bring them all back instead of wasting. Cpa return it. Bring back about a ten year TRICIA disagree with you on that one so Very cool the lost truly speaking to look at in-depth will be at the the heroes. The month that is Elsia can rape is the first one is not this Josh. But is another Josh. Josh Carol just show is taking one of the eighteen. Seok Bein rape the Patriots Elites Leeann you know what you can read this one out because I think this one is a man to your heart so this guy is awesome. Josh come find me off idea. And I'm GonNa hi-fi because this is an awesome list and a free and free free as well He's taking the particularly capita lawsuits general. Who is got nine weeks? Because he's and he's ignoring I on damage of every face a Any as five different as five. Riders in fifteen different is not running the Cavallo's Battalion which I don't think he can fit out all but a well and he's gone a burnt-out trigger an emerald live swell Beijing's coming back for show like he's healing Sarmatia from this gift. The difference yet there are many words that three one each model so that fifteen man unit is going to be tough to like kill and with the last one following them around and they dash healing them. They're going to go through Yet it's awesome list. It's super cost If anyone doesn't know how Barnabas work they do have a command ability but they can call us and it spends one point of the discipline points and they can get plus removed so they can pretty much only fifteen. So yeah. I'm I like this list because there's no MOTECH He has less motech than me. Because I think I am the one with running the less motech But this guy's running awesome lists and I think in my opinion this would have been better list in something like style Yak loads. But that's just me. Let's go. I love summit. Expect some respect and break breaking news from the Zia weekly is that the studies have shown pitcher fix actually most of Negoti Legions Academy Comment so go check out the weekly. It's a wonderful publication on facebook. They had journalist. Jonathan is an amazing dude. One of my personal favorite community articles at their on the entire interwebs Clinton. You'RE GONNA say about Joshua's list It would be much cooler if it was in style but in our Fix It does sorry. Does it does lose points from me. Because it Stellian earliest Nelson Akra Patrick's critically farmer owned a gash has a two plus Alma safe under the petric's so he's an eight could access to the world. He's in eight spell Kosta to plus save reroofing. Save shrugging and the hanes going to be a nightmare to take off the table Do you ignore him. Do you go for him. And try to take him down That's GonNa be up to our parents if you can shoot gosh and do something about it. Go for it. Because then he can deal with the rest Leauge though is going to be in a bigger problem because they think it's going to be breaking up. It's breaking up to discipline points attempt for them which he doesn't think this generating points because he doesn't have enough heroes so it was gonna be interesting. See I replaced with it but I think. The list is the gushing trap. Lucky Fun if I'm attacking the gach is that is what my hundred and I'm not talking about Josh. I'm talking about you know the general opponent. They want me to attack Negoti because that's allowing their league cup loss to generate there's disciplined points and enable those death rightous. Yeah Yup the cash as distraction conflicts is the festival. But it's probably right. Nick Ashkelon captured as as many bodies. But as always one half of your army ignoring accepted to you. Try to take him down. I think depends on the scenario. And what you think. About what tools do you have available? That's obviously Miami. I'm looking at spell casting but I'm not gonna I'm going up against very strong spill Kosta Which leads me to Michael Thompson. Who has heard a similar lift instead of going with the The death rytas. He's going down the multi God so he's bringing the table sixty multi God to complement the leash and Nick Ash as well as having the pepple son the knock make Predator and the Shraga an will spell Bar Similar list. You may not told the sign. We've got Nick Act. We've got the lead capitalists. We've got is this. The start of it is is. It's it's got to characters sign. Yeah but it's a very different pop. The army by our K. Based on points distribution it's very similar but the whole point of the list is completely different It's so many both and I hope to go. The MARKLE has painted his damn bisons. 'cause IF HE HASN'T I'm coming for him but now markle always takes. Michael has played this forever He came third last year with the new gas and grim ghost list That he'd been running for quite some time And so it didn't surprise me at all that he'd picked up a binary pistole adding to his death I think he's go. He's got tons of multi God so he's got both his opponent. Santa bodies. That aren't GonNa die very well. And he's got some awesome little spills in there that he can be thrown around and his top block as well an absolute top mark except when a free guild. God Way we've had handed US presidents. He's not a CO person. Then that makes him cool. It just makes him a member of an elite club to Cosa visa-free. Go God he an on side. Your by your by really cool. Speaking of people who are cool we have Samo nail who My Gosh do I wet the bed when I look at this late since? Y'All by rape is under petrified surprises century. But what are we got got the least laws? We have the sole Mason. We have often the black. We have twenty more twenty more twenty more check. What case me waiting to bed? Every night is a two more check. Kroll as big fat catapults and then you've got the more Shield Corp as a battalion so that wraps up two thousand points Liam. I know you're a big fan of catapults when you see this. What are you thinking am I am I am I our my? This is the strongest list out of owed the religious at the strongest list. This is by far the most stupidest lists Because the one thing that he has actually messed up on is that the godber nominees to go to lay Jr and the sole mason needs to get given the plus one of the wind artifacts on nine inch bubble because winning on fours. Like it's all cool and great you generating new attacks on five six. But he can at least half of them on the wane roles because almost heck wind on force on some WanNa makes him summit better but That's the only thing I would change. This list are but this list is Damn for control Because he's saving points of thanks to shield copes Some pretty much. He's generating two three four five points and then he gets one. He's pretty much using well for free Can Command for an extra fifty three? He's GonNa be using hates because oil is not gonNA railroad saves and all those kind of getting plus attack And knows he's GonNA use some of the points to increase the rim by one Motech Shield Motech ON DAY DO DAMAGE. They do significant damage. Liam Anna your averaging twenty twenty Wounds A coli in Petric's I'm averaging twenty damage and in the mortgage Ivorian. I'm averaging thirty five damage It's not that strong. The veteran motions pretorious bought Petra fixed. Plus once David sued but yeah So Yeah Pacific Kanai. The artifact is only plus when he hits so the hitting twos but it's all great hitting onto generation. Texan. Violence exists. But YOU'RE GONNA lose half of them on the withdrawal and that's just wasting potential damage. So yeah I think it should have been the pulse. One Way NONFAT but Hopefully samples well. This is by far the strongest primary playlist different. It's definitely one to watch out for. I think there's some twitter bets going at the moment if same. Sandwich Cancun so Way If if you face sandbox Even if he were to lose I think it's a very very tough race nonetheless. What will I will say about. This is what it's been really good to say is that this list has gotten same pint stuff so I am serve lapsed as a hobby for a little bit there had come to terms. Cancun's he helped last week because I think I don't think he was quite feeling Hobby But this is coming out and he's been flat like flat. Strap onus on just working on it making it as good as he can and I think that's quite cool so it's good that he's found that In the list and yes if Sam Neill Wins Cancun. I have to eat a plastic model. That's that I that I called to So but if I find that people are throwing games than oversleep bits off. Let's talk chaos. Let's go to the very first one ten chaos and the first one we look at is slant Nash to Karen is a A sledge feigned. He's been playing these lists for some time now. Been playing version of his sluggish He is running Keeper of Sacred Celeski that could told her the chaos lowered the exalted here on a chaos. We've got three units of five health stride as we beheld scourges. We've got three soul grinders and then the demon stayed Contingent at two thousand points. Holy Shot I love goods. I love a good Slash list super curious to see what a soul grinder does within slash. I've I've played against slogans in the past and it's a really tough heat to the to the soul grinders but not under sluggish Yet they still getting plus one a hate and stuff in his army at the time gives him straight plus money here plus when attack and plus one to saves nope plus when he hits. That's it that I had to find it to check it but I don't remember what they actually did. I went I have never heard of. It's none of the books but it's from the Celestin host as a whole bunch of digital command points depending on his Depending on the the evenness I think it's It's a whole bunch of stuff like the mortal of lights models estimates while you're going to be seeing here. Is that caseloads command ability. Let's the sole grinders pilot twice side. Those guys the Baseball Muscle. Reina's the things that he's not generating any something points really. Unless you're hitting me here is by the getting W MATT OF POINTS. If it's a really strong list it's very different and it's really cool I write it. I think it's cool. It's very different yet. Grudging run-and-shoot as well was that plus when he protects As possible and safe. Wow you gotta be right. Sometimes HABRA IS CREEK. Today run our. What's next one bill Aaron's but we know he's not going to generate as much depravity as he was going with a whole bunch keep secrets it's great to see a variety of sluggish models. Someone that are. I really started to talk about each Ken. Ken Who's coming down from northern New South Wales absolute legend and he is running the base of chaos under the wokers is running Dune bold. Abass Lord Unit of Sequel Goals Goals Unit. Three boo goes five. Seventy five cents a four units of five senti goals and sunny government excited about to Gauguin's under the BRAS spoilers. That comes in a two thousand points with one command. I love a good base of chaos list. Not Enough Table. Although I am disappointed is not caucus rice in this list. There's no room for the coca trace in the In the battalion this all fits in that process was the time to believe when she said that should fit in the battalion so he's a wonder up. This is also the first list. We got in full Cancun. Ken Was the first to send his list in And because I'm looking at Based at the moment for my pro post-cancun Project I was super excited at these. I've I've shedded at this list on something else. Starved recorded with Priority will earlier in the week Sire I got asked to pick one list and this was it because it made me the most excited Si- I love it. Doc woke his older Bogo. Is it's going to be good. I think I think possibly the only issue is that he doesn't have and because he's used a police points he doesn't have enough. Durham Bulls to Cape all of the BOGO units going. I think because the the way that their auras work to help those bogle units. He's GONNA have to be super catchy with all the units or just let some of them do their own thing side but it still coolest he's got sent to goes in there to just run round because there is foster units And goldens on bad now for that sort of For Care what you you. Start with caucuses. Then you build around. It ought fleeing. What are your thoughts when you look at this and by the shadow to Ken? Thanks for dropping by sweatless. I picked this list because boo goes on United States. Much I think is his Co. and again this is such a hybrid count one hundred sixty five ways to seventy years ago for I write it. I think it's College Salem table and I think because you don't see many base of chaos armies. I think some people are not gonna how to handle this saints before and some of these surprise people so whole heap of additional words. You know they're gonNA hit like a truck I can an integral is just going to go in there gonNA Banana this stuff. Better but stuff's GonNa hit the and that's just APU row. It's like well. It's not about that We'll talk about to escape and tied lists The first one is Alex. Alex from loads of ruined. I believe I'm pretty sure. He's he is my cluff mate. I should probably not question. That is the man we're talking lists. So what are we got he? We've got the Gracie on screaming bell. We have a we have an engine will look engineering. We have forty clan. Rats Twenty Clicks Twenty clan rights forty plague monks seeks stole friends. We also have the wool. Lightning Vortex Aka the rat trap Severi match very main. Laham you get to play with. Dan Brew A lot. Who's very well well renowned for escape in this list? Is it Kinda similar to Dan? Brew is good like winning. List add Sagittarian the book first came out however in Substance Dome Feigns. Abe was designed but Yet this guy has tolls for decline rats. Great Body Blocking Unit Forty eight months. How many units domains gonNA share some stuff off Yeah I read this. It's pretty much what he series game and tied some of the best stuff in it I think there is and it's good to see what people still taking plague monks even with the worst co Change Sam I and also what my vortex is still so strong and ashes cold out in the chat That is a loss of worrying. Recall that a few with a lot of words. This one hundred eighty six warren so that is a lot to chew through a very tough ones under the stone. Feigns as well yeah. It's really good. It's it's a fairly common sky even list. It's a little little bit of everything as you said. Stone things instead of just isles. It's got a unit plague monster just fairly common Yeah it's a little bit of everything and it's a ton of waring's to try and shift if position stuff Roy. Sorry Yeah Yep Yep eighty a little looney top. He's in a flood. Bouygues at a whole bunch of movement shenanigans is GonNa have some Nice Bells Very good combination So to watch out for now the person is probably going down a very different route versus gave and tied. Which is Steve Give? We got to meet him in New Nikon Desert. You plague monks that we talked about. What six hundred on. Blake mocks We have the vermin corrupt. We have three play place. Priests on a plague furnace We have the Gracie I which is the general. We have forty played mugs. Forty forty plague monks three and it's a forty plague monks and then ten additional plague monks and another. Gemini. It's so Where the plague most coming from states them. Yes he's bringing a like. What like a quarter of them or something like that. It's a ridiculous amount. Yeah it's old as pestilence. Soga work quite well together. B- very interesting to say love. High winds at one hundred eighty six models as a hundred eighty six wounds Which we very tough to handle. You gotTA play plague. I is going to be running. In parallel of support with those monks Three furnaces three big blocks of plague monks diplomats YEP and Steve. Steve was quite lucky Stevens. I think one of the very last white-list tickets as well. Sorry sorry lame. Nothing you'd like to add to that it's played marksman it's just so many bodies signing he's GonNa have to watch US times but with the new voice crawl. It should be a bit easier and deaf frenzy. Such strong spell one cycle is off. Yeah it's dangerous territory. There we've got robot robot coming in without one of true slaves to Darkness List. The first one is based around the slaves deduct misstatement Prince. We have a castle swallowed. A regular chaos lodge we have fifteen counts warriors. Fifteen counts for fifteen cass warriors. Casual shrine so grinded a soul grind issued another to slow grind as they coming up a bit of a popular. Meta choice. What's down here? And we have the rap shot in will spell as coming into title of Nineteen Eighty with zero additional command point. So this what I like about. This list is not going by or one keyword so As you could save the slaves to darkness deemed Prince and soul. Grinders oh how the mock of corn and care source of a load and the load all the mock of noble war and the war China's. Well so they're all buffing different things at his two different synergies going off at all. GonNa play differently which I think is really cool And this is why I think. Slice it up. This book is up as one of the most interesting things. Because you can do stuff like this you can pretty much play two armies in one with two different cities going on going off on our tangent. So yeah I'll be interested to save its The new stories or the okay as far as is painted up met so many but I highly doubt that but yeah robeson. Old School sleekness player. He played sliced darkness last year. so he's he's he's a true believer. I believe I believe in the slice sir. Probably be old models may be a bit of a mix. I think this is co the endless spells interesting one is GonNa do day three modal winds. Hp unit that it passes across answer GonNa have the move characteristic till the end of the round so Caribbean interesting Choice in something that again people are going to be used to being you. People don't like people messing with movement There's a whole bunch of additional stacks on one hundred percent correct but a whole bunch of different mocks and You may afford a castle in apostate amok of Nergal House Loyd will act very differently than one with a different marks or very interesting list. The second one is someone who is very OJ when it comes to a slice darkness of light. He's been running a lot of ever chosen. Daddy's Craig Anderson. He is running. He is running the Lord of the chosen himself with the chaos Lord. The new the new model. I think I haven't seen on the table just yet I'd love to hear your thoughts around this fifteen counts. Worry is five thirty. Three of Aaron God and three Barron God by with a mock of slash and his house where he had the mock all his age And we've also take the emerald locks form which is going to be behaving or bringing back. D Six wins all models. So how do we think we're going to have Having this one's going to handle F. I think so. Yeah Craig's. I think Craig ever chosen to JT. Did he know he runs ever chosen? He ought he normally runs ever chosen. I've played him. Utah where he's had four units of the Varenne God or he's you know he's he's been around that particular billed as opposed to more of the slaves to side. Yeah Yep and that's cool that they sort of sticking to that but he's he's got some bodies in the he's got the unit of Cairo's warriors that's his body's contingent an octopus get. Kill everything else anyway. So he doesn't need to are so yeah. I think it's a fun list Craig's coming to have fun might terrible jerks and he also. I think yeah. He's he signed off his email with the ridiculous Taro. But that I was not gonNa put on this some Lord of all time and sometimes space or something like that so pretty standard craik easily wrestling. I think about tapped into met hotties bank being fair on from okay. I'm not a wrestling fan. I just thought he was had a very high opinion of account. Lamey thing to add to that before we move into a potentially new boogeyman. That people aren't ready for just yet. Maybe now now now now Zetsche. So we'll talk. We're going to talk about James. Page and Clint and lamb already cringing a little bit. And that is the Zetsche whether what are they coming? Wait they coming. We've been chicken himself. The Lord of change with the sorcery whole bunch of stuff. The fate Moustafa the Gold Seminar on his desk of bench. A blue scribe the the fate cost. All we have a changeling we have ten pink horrors. We have three flame history flames. Ten Brims Tim Bernstein's and the change. Host arsenault probably a traditional change which is flooding the board with with Demons. But we've also got the life swollen the pendulum and the DUCK FIDE. Damon rift coming in at two thousand points and if you like spill costing you not going to have a good day with this are James Page is the current New Zealand Mazda Sir. If he hasn't taken a standard chinatrust whatever that happens debate because he's got a raise in a between a James is he's being pointing out extra little bits for this It's going be very interesting. And he will have a plan And he will make sure that it gets executed as closely as he can because that's what he is. He's probably one to watch. It's it's an interesting I like. I've played against James. I was on track to take out the Gt but James stopped me. And that guy's mashame like I kidding on those times where I just didn't even like road is because he just issues like doing the math and everything else I call him like I cannot be is machine so When I saw this list and I sold the name is like code. This is a math. Like there's something going on his head as great plan. He's GonNa do it way. Likes Woman's GonNa Bring Back Models? He's obviously got a whole bunch of you haven't if you haven't been played against his inch army they're going to be rewarded by summoning points by Spells cost by you all the opponents also spell costing here and he's going to be bringing on additional models and Kurt me if I'm wrong Manal once heard game can bring on ten models Camping at ten pin is over ten thousand dollars so straight away all the sudden. You just got so much more summoning. If you're worried about buddies you sit. Make many buddies. He'll bring someone pretty quickly. Yeah he's GonNa plan he's one to watch and the changing is a nice little ready to play as well. He can redeployed at the start of round WTO before the gang commits is A little bit changed since the last book but nonetheless Shenanigans Day some at Just just racist comment there. He'll just sixteen sixes title Hashtag. Everage it's in reference to race rolling a ridiculous amount of sixes at Mazda's a just sorry. It just tickled me on on tired. I find things funny. Leave me alone. Maybe she maybe she get up at seven PM. Luckily does the someone who doesn't get up at seven PM would be Mattie Watkins coming over from New Zealand running Xantia as well. The reason we pulled this one out is because right now. People are realizing how awesome flames are on the new book. Kevin seen things like flame is in the past really that popular but my gosh. There's about his messiah coming under the flame. Abana he the load of change we've Seminar on DISK FATE MAZDA TEN pinks three famous refinance refinance refinance an exalted flame. Ah Ten brims tambourines change hosts. We've also got the demon rift. Quicksilver solds and will spill toil in spills coming at. It makes nineteen ninety but only eighty three words again. Gone some stuff. I think this is generally just to do. He's a good player. Mighty we've changed our during the thing. It still doesn't tonight against pretty sure yet Clinton. Yeah I haven't read it yet. Very light changed still. Has the movie shenanigans that you can deploy two units on the five Addition against moving around and stuff But started checking so matty Mattias. Strong playoff As being a cinch before the new book on he brought to Sydney. Jt was a change. I to our Zanga hetty it's it's I don't remember exactly what what I was playing at the opposite end of the tournament to him but he was doing quite well cinch under their own book. Cy Young. He's inexperienced inspire. He's not one of those people who's just jumped on them. Ziff new thing He's quite a strong player as well. he's a well known name. I've Rene UK where he's actually from but you know there's New Zealand's Stand up like I yeah. I'm not saying I another person to watch Not only because he's a days implied but because he's got a pretty decent lists hasn't just picked up. The book fickle. It's the latest cheesy he's solemn who's got experience with it a couple of other quick coal at the Exalted Flame is going to be a nacional buff pace to the flame is operatives inch The Change Colt is GonNa make the the rent. Characteristic increase for those flame is very much built around doing significant damage with the famous and we change Beyond the move those around the table quite a lot while the load of change the pink horrors and some of these other costs are going to be able to Be doing damage and generating. There's there's so many points while aflame is And I'm probably the same kind of cloak you up as well. It's it's a Lotta shooting. It is a low shooting one of those ones that probably could handle the cash pitcher fix I will pull up pull up out one and utterly focused corn not the only list. The one that we'll talk about Hugh Hughes sounded very well on the tournament circuit. He did very well at Sydney. Jt An as Running Cohen for a while. So I thought let's pull at Cohen. And let's talk about what is a traditional go pilgrims we've got at bloodstock Crop Staccato? Ab bloodthirsty insistent rage and AL unfitted fury. We had the SLOTA. Prices slowed appraised ten bloodsaves. Tim Blood Rave is five. Blood Warriors seeks Moscow. Crushes traditionally in gold programs. But I'm excited to see them on the table and then finally six crushes coming in along with the Hicks skulls and the wraith acts for nineteen. Eighteen is Does the skull crushes and the The blush in the Moscow crushes changes from being a generic goal pilgrims lists Liam or is it still is still generic. Goku grooms articles his everything. Shut the hell out now. I love to see that big heavy cavalry in. That's cool. 'cause you eat your exactly right you don't see it anywhere near as much. Sun. They got a pretty good boffin New Book The Night. The skull crushes one of them. They all sound the same. Everything of the the scope. Crushes got a an amish safes. They used to be four up dead now three up but they used to be able to shrug off spells on five or something. I think they've lost that from memory so they kind of come at neutral But I think overall that they points went up a little bit but he's better now but Yeah our uses them as as you pointed out is if the the the the the crushes hit surprisingly hod and have a nice safe For cheap so if you think about tying up people while you get a sixty inch pile in from you bloodthirsty all while you appraise. A coming of behind the scenes Making you rewrote spells potentially monitoring spells from the Hicks Goja skulls Like twist Yeah and this quicker defining what else says what about the other cordless. Everyone had tons of blood. They all looked so similar when I was going through with. That must mean something. Is there see what goods describe my camp blood test up? Let this stuff. I'm but yeah it's different this one. J blood vessels here. Which is surprising as Jack White's coal at as well the skull crushes if they apply a bronze flesh on them will be on to so really tough yet Jack Jack. What is on top of Israel's whoever you are being very helpful in the jet thank you. Chit Chat. Why we'll do you want to jump as well. Well if Liam keeps talking about his dislike of Manfred you might have an opportunity to be a CO highschool. They set in Youtube Channel now. I on on Super Super Jealous of people who can still all of that rule stuff in the head on. Yeah I just can't tie L. that stuff together. But he's like jumping on. Yeah just pointing out. This is how they work okay. Cool awesome thank you. We'll move to order now guy to lots ten and James Page On now we'll talk about me. My reign on the right off the James Pages said Appreciate the kind words now. We've just put him up when your head you've at the Moxie Young. You'RE YOU'RE GONNA target monitoring here James. Good luck So we're GONNA talk about my list. I talk about The Fishman himself. The the shot in his skin. Ready Skip Bonetti. You'll clubmates. He's got he's got Volturno he's got the soul -scribed at the tide. Kosta we got ten throws tenth rawls six issue in God's three God we've got full hour picks at Schalke's and they've got another unit of false eight shots hitting the table all on the foof end off in nineteen ninety. You might look at these go. What on earth. Why some crazy person running eight shocks? This man knows how to bought. Just just quickly. They're so cheerful. What they do now. Oh crap did not need a point drove Mike Crop There's a lot more. There's lot more shocks this year than there was last year. Ben Doubled the amount But Yeah Dave. They're funny at that point where people putting them in the lists which is exactly what Jacob needed to sign for anyone who played or whatever so most times Daiki gets a really good buffet on the charge like the most God get rent to something ish land get like plus one say or whatever but Alex is always have rent aways and they always do some serious damage even if they don't charge and Benzoylecgonine that and he's done really well with them and yet they are so cheap for the frigate. I've played against this list. And it's like it's just painful site painful but like if they if they shoot a they should character and they do a wound on a character they get to draw. The is it the rewrote charges. They charge so if they've seen model of a models wounded or something. They get a rewrote charge. That we've been twelve. Mon Mike Pence Bonetti at Cancun is. He gets off the crack in tooth so the cracking truth is not effect. Where once per battle in the shooting? Phase you picking unit within Twelve year-old d. six either. Roll a one to a five. It does daydream words If you enroll one yourself two to five the opponent but what he wants he wants to roll a six because it does today six Marshall words so it's pretty crazy said it was read the rule so once a battle ivory tower the mock said peak one model in the the model. Up Slang wound characteristic of ten And sophist thirty six. Were INTO THE WIND. Characteristic attemp loss so basically just order delayed a hero. If it's under ten wins Order Twenty. Six mortal wounds if it's channel so pretty burchell Getting OFF EASY. And it's it's IT'S A it's a big big bought. If it comes off it comes off really well and it will surprise people all right. Ben Ben is someone as well as Ben Benjamin playing. He's decay now for a few years now sir. Very very accustomed to this is army. Obviously we've got a whole bunch of they are teleport shenanigans of things you can do. That's just one of the many tools but calling the Ala pixes as something. That's a little bit unique The next list I will talk about is Al Won silver with list. Which you didn't get a lot of love this year. Not As many souvenir places I would have expected. Andrew Bigwood thinks he needs more turtles. One hundred percent correct He does need more turtles. And you'll be happy to see Rob Rob Cohen who Note that he must be under Robert. Just who is running in? Just his running foreshocks assert before turtles full titles. Pretty remarkable so shout out to rob he is my club mate and I remembered that. But let's get back to Ryan so Ryan who hoops. Hoops is running dreg woods He's got the revenue and he's got a branch right he's at the branch writes about thirty drives five sprite. Reds five spike ribs fuss by reds non curnow hunters six hunters with an out pasta. Italian which is kind of capturing despite ribs. He has about forty six. Despite a swarm hive the PALISADES and an extra command point coming in at nine thousand nine hundred eighty with to command points. Be Slaves double thrown of vines? Still cost is and the jewel of the with ring as an artifact Liam Url Goto Silva Guru We Know Ryan is a great player on imitation to the MOSS's loss. Gee what what do you see when you yourself have list this list aside mast scientific and messed especially a good or a bad thing. It's so good so with this card. Play a packed bed. Clinton has with Mirabeau on. He gets now multiple than anyone else so he can easily tell a boat like the dryades. Whatever we can do they can command ability. They all have older. Here's get this ability where you select again. Holy Oven Twelve and he gets retail unit nine inches away from enemies out with a spice warm high to give them plus rates in a move so now mostly things things are going on a six inch charge. He has Nine five six sides so this is a really good counter to The big boogeyman because these guys were ruined their day He strong here. You can just tell you what he's got the movement if anything this is probably the best movement this is probably the best movement list in Oldham. Because he's got mirrow trays teleporting and he's got the Jaguars commendably Has Three ways to teleport The autrement is giving the credit hunters. Real wants to hit. And Yeah. It's I'm front of is for plastered costing his those guys staying still You'RE NOT GONNA be unbinding anything from them Because it stacks regards two four six eight here too. We appreciate trays But yes so. They're playing well in. The magic is wealth. So yeah I right. It's really good I actually think he's probably will be going five one. If he has a good runs around five one I should be blocks of kernels will be hard to shift especially at nine although you've gotta question if you can get those nine into combat or if he's got the redundancy. Nisar just doing damage at every opportunity. He's doing redundancy and lowering his drops Sylvan have caught Winnie dropping game. So but these two units of bully units on where people are scared about them. Like everyone's like screw that don't do that so I'm really good is very similar to Laurie. Hug It who we see in the UK on except hugged runs. Nine sides six swords but I think rise has gone. Screw it ren to all day everyday to swat the Spice Woman's. GonNa give extra movement obviously a threat of violence is gonNA he's GonNa keep stacking plus two and the phrase locking how it's going to be blocking that he dry. It's going to be Chapters the block people off. Make sure he describes the dejected until people get stopped Yeah it's good tolls everywhere. It's awesome list. I'm if anything. This is the list can't riding myself or building myself myself Sam. Good Trout Ri- painting. You don't add. Clint not really not really. It's nice to say Silva all the table. I would've expected more. Obviously this is not the only one. There is a seven odd. Suppose seven for memory. They might be more likely unless there was a good amount of Silva. But that's just one that we've picked out the one that I'm excited to talk about and anyone who can see me search may know where I'm going with this and that is Bugles and suspense. This is the most weirdest is listed. I have seen at an event By a very competitive and competent player. That further ADO. I'm going to bring up a very exciting list. And that is Sam Morgan. Smoggy from the dwellers below and my gosh what on earth is going on he is we have a we have a lot on star drake. We HAVE MARATHI WE HAVE A. We have a skink stop race we have. We have go trick. We Have Ten Free Guild Arches ten frequent God ten low beads and life's womb coming in at a total two thousand points. We have fifteen hundred points on the dot. In three models alone this is broken brilliance. Or as he's crazy person talk it is a complete about face from his mosses list which had like thirty drops into something like that so he's obviously got tired of putting models down and gone. Well if I just tight three to five hundred points then that's most of the work done I haven't heard it heard him talk about this list yet. It's it's go look code because it's full four heroes and that seat car thing Three of them on a quite good I love the Cheeky Stasi or in for the kill as it's all he he's quite good check but Quite quite good tech for the cheeky. So it command points and stuff so What's he got? He's got some auction. They're quite good Xining stuff out. Get the free. Go get a free move before. The battle commences I can Which between Nice gyro potentially claiming objective early on He's got a couple of random little battling units in the And then and then allow swollen because how else do you keep those huge characters? Lloyd than with a empowered Yeah that's a good point. Marc wears whose destruction who's going to bring destruction. Sir He was. He said Easy Year Destruction. He was having done some Goblin KO disappointed. Hey Sam Is pretty sweet lowest? Lame anything you'd want to add to this is such a. I would be very happy. Swan came calling because the world already thinks astray is all crack when it comes to tech. If someone saw this wind can con- I think they would just think we're playing a completely different game and I want to know what they would say. This is bad but as Jack Watts said good luck. Beating this list in three places Powell I honestly I fuck Sambi one company. I'm actually trying to think of what I can do with it. And almost like Murphy. Kill and let's see killer and snowfall. I can order slang. Roll track just tanks everything and then there's a Lo- selsdon onstar. Drake is just GonNa like. Yeah it's Yep Cope is the title is it up. At least that I would just go to the bar. Grab some drinks and just have a lawf- does this is going to be an awesome game. Sam is an absolute gent so like immune to get played against. You'RE GONNA have a frigging cracker every time. Say in the other cool at ease very good player as well so you do not do not look at this and think it's going to be like Yukon. He's secret in here that I I can't see other than just to hear our have all. There's more to this than meets the eye but is going to be an awesome game. What will count you cope? Let's bring up Spell his name correct will bring up. storm cost. Sean Sean Base. The other. Half of the notorious put cost go check them out differently Very cool dudes bringing storm cost angles of held. And what have we got the Lord icon the Lord relate dot the Lord relate both got the same prayer that translocation the zero five Judas sequiturs sequiturs we've got the van. God Raptors with long strikes Three Eighth Three three eighth Wings five vanguard hunters and then six more sogod ill allies coming in nineteen ninety. So we've we saw these lists on twitter recently doing some serious damage We know short has been playing a shooting version of stonehouse for a while. Now has done very well once. Jt We some some pretty cool shooting. Although it was two and a half thousand points is shooting back. Shootings been around for a while This list is pretty much based on doing motor winds from long strikes with double sheeting and in the most are got going in to really Things don't cost that are really have much fly Eighth a wings and prosecutors and stuff so the most I got really good to Flyer Allies like at this summer movie character just showing back the most can fly snipe then move on But yeah he's GonNa Shoot People Yeah I think it's good. Use of allies in my opinion on the eighth a wings. Go out there and stop denying charges when you start getting close to shoots. Yup Yup good list cliff only want to comment on. I think he might struggle on bodies if he gets If he gets the wrong matchup in his opponent has lots of buddies because yet more winning Lonestar Good against some things in our forty monks through our immune to battleship Care He's got the most Give him give him some movement 'cause otherwise it's a fairly static army. Yes he's got the religious but that doesn't always work. I mentioned that will be moving. His Van God raptors round to optimal locations. He might fun playing against the silver plan. Because you can't see anything side. Yeah Yeah it's IT'S A it's a decent stone cross list but at the same time. I'm not sure stone cost That great at the moment so I think I think for us the the the draw is GonNa be so incredibly important for this one so it could be fable for him or could be a challenge depending on where the match up slay bought. I would not write him off the chapel yet. So he's got sildenafil souvenir first up 'cause he's playing against Chris will fit and I think he has sort of stated that one of his goals is to do as good or better than last year. He was Core I think last year say will say so. He's acting for five and one top off four to possibly yet for member of the twin who foreign show. He's kind of way you need. If you'll be in that top twenty five the next list will talk about is one. That is a lull. A bit lulls. I really like it. I've been talking to Simon whole lot recently about a love of gray water which is just better in tempest. I bought Scott has run The the cities of sigma with gray water faucets. He's got the Coke Smith. Which is the General? The ruined the economy vital major and load Oneida Supporting the four Hilson rocket batteries. He's also got a twenty nine drake tin long beads ten long beads ten free. Gills God and Some secretly tech. Which is the three jar. Copters reach people starting to notice Can do some serious damage when you combined we as you have the smell the spell it okay long story short. That's coming in nineteen ninety eight also got the battalion of the company so let a long range shooting a lot of easy to hit easy to talk roles from the boss from the The Coke Smith or NATO and the her CONHAM. Yeah shooting then you just ask if shooting was going back like four minutes ago. It was a rhetorical us. Cluck opening a conversation. Yeah he tells US sorry. Glenn How Stone Stone Batteries. On as good as they used to be to still decent. They used to be out to ignore line of sleep now. They require line of sight They have gone down a little bit box. They're not nearly as they used to be. Yes used to be able to harm them on things. Just shoot off. Staff will shoot things he couldn't say harding characters and things like that It's cool. I'm happy to see people taking tillery. it's not it's not super common thing I say as we have actually two of these sorts of lists in the in the lineup but I I I'm not sure on what Scott coming for. I don't think he's he's shooting. I think he's just planning to shoot the shading. Yay CAMEROTA is another cities. Seek Ma we know there's nineteen series of seek molly St- is Ham a whole clint. So the the yeah. I saw this list right When it came in and I are the biggest small on my side. Yeah sorry sorry I couldn't couldn't contain my joy at At saying this list do you WanNa read it out? aren't routier a fucking Khanna rate. It Rai Syria free general and Griffin Heart. Keenum was battle message that can fly We've got a nodding Canto We've got one two three. Units of six demographic nights the decision in the Hammer Hamelin Lances Battalion. Which come on like. Who isn't excited to see this task Which I don't think I've ever seen played on the table and Melissa. Mouse trump Iran that Iran that condom at The teams event. It's wonderful to move your Nineteen Cantu around the board as long as six window less than five win under six four inch move around and keep up with those demographic knots and obviously they're more radical ex gonNA move the horror conham around with the the the Gir- Finn and the demographics sorry Cameron is he works at Against actual here in in Queensland He's actually from. Mac Rat store was super excited to say he decides tournament and I believe Display bold enough to go with this so I think it will look amazing as well sir. Yeah it's it's not something that you see everyday holds and holds Democrats. Sorry that's pretty cool and the tough to shift and I can do some damage on the judge Neil side. Yep He's gotTa keep in the white from you'll You'll you'll side of the board otherwise going to get a whole bunch of additional benefits. Yeah I copied. This list got missed by me when I was throwing through. But when you message me Clinton how how the Mike Mrs Listen. I read a list. How is just like Oh shit? That is awesome. Yeah I think this is cool. I'm scared of this list. I yeah it's awesome. It's Very Jack Armstrong. With owing Jack Armstrong was you know going to be running around Eighteen Demi Griffin is the type of bills. But we haven't seen very much a lot of people talk about these topics builds in cities when it very cut announced but no one's actually really title so I'd be curious to see how well cameron goes with this because it's again Nasi Democrats back on the table that finally got the wolves correct author about a million points drops. So you just some things. You conflicts with points drops Sarah Innate away a bit of a rewrite lay will mark coming in with the lost CDs of seek my list. We'll talk about today. Which is coming in from tempest. I he has a whole bunch of cool shooting. Coming out of the army from the navigator. The battle made the Hurricana the non zero the Frost Phoenix. But where the shootings coming from. You've got you'll you'll love your is drake's Yulong Diedhiou doc shades. Your your gun struck thunders. Ajar Ajar Copters and your frigate so in a tempest I can bring in. Ko and not count as allies and Hawkeye is GonNa is a wonderful This is going to help the shooting and obviously the frost taught is just a pain in the bottom. Jen Aren't gonNA spend a lady just WanNa tournament in New Zealand. Al-kaud rules though. I think it was. It was using the old battle time. Yup He has changed out the accompany. For Doc shot sees added a frigate on. I think what else trying to think what else nothing else. The other two big changes but The cable did ruin that list but he did win with This is strong still. I lay is one of those players where he is very Is just tied as I played in last year. We had a Sylvan F. Off In my head exploded we by planning. We both walked away with our heads. Just being like we've we have no constant. Did he run? The Frost Phoenix last year in the Silva was g Garfield in the end. It feels and that was awesome list with Alario late lease one of these people who's been running sort of mixed order for quite some time I didn't last year like Running mix and just harming that in certain brunch freely zone high movement models here between the Hurricana with the the the authorized cloak. He's a whole bunch of the Phoenix. He's got the jar copters you know. He's got the frigate a lot of good movements and good shooting. He's got a whole range of of of study models and that whole Kobe. Command trait. Say the battle trait on the the navigate is just GonNa make those shooters Just so much better so someone to which at full is Cain. Krahn himself a man who who has done amazing work with. Ko and the apple is back surprises. The center is running. Koa where there was a new book or not. I'm pretty sure he would have run. Was He guys that the interim Mazda is that the new one is at the head even pronounce that the medical original Cert- met the dirigible suits. It's been a long night that the the eighth a chemist you've got twenty optional company. You've got the gun stroke gun hol. You've got another gun hole equipped twenty thunders. You've got an iron clad under the escort wing battalion. And he has the The artifact spell in the bottle and he's decided of all the endless fills you could possibly choose from his gone the realm scourge shell which is slaves to darkness yet coming at nine hundred ninety one additional command point very low wound counted. Eighty nine bought a lot of my Bil- shooting and these men knows what he's doing with A. Yeah Yeah He. He's shooting thanks. That's what he's doing. What does it mean I shoot? I don't think he actually has any his close combat units because he said shooting on really renowned for the calm pass. You can't build in. Engine Reagan's and stuff if you WANNA Things not it's it's very Schutte. Let's thunderous which is interesting But if it's GONNA be massive impale coming out of this we'll just we'll just have to see if it's enough to take on some of these other lists where you know. I've got sorry many words Sir. Yep I think the surprise he will they? Will they Paypal not having experienced the fly high ability so with the ironclad and a gun hole is being able to remove yourself from battle and then kind of move around and deploy yourself One inch from terrain pacing outside of not an enemy models being to reposition. And Just A. It's such a unique piece in the game that I doubt many people have experienced. It is going to catch all the paper a lot of people of God. It's such a new book by the Caradon Zippo but I think some people are going to be quite surprised at what they can do it. Can't it's GonNa be huge advantage to the place definitely node like back to front of that? Book Ready When it comes into games and some of the top state plays really needs to start studying. They WANNA do well. It can't carney to start studying these. 'cause there's a slight chance that you might get hit with it but like if that does happen you need to know and this is a definitely anomalous which when. I saw it had to quickly book up one earth. Everything's doing teapots cooling out that He believes that this the wound count. Here is one hundred nineteen winds. Potentially it was using the old wall. Scroll build the in in that transition off during lists of mission so he might be a few more wounds than Nyunt. Thunder is up tunes H. Now that's probably coming out an extra channels are. How can the spell in a bottle be used? It's once per game on effect It's also with cooling are really like the injured mazdas odd effect the bomblets which basically at once per bell shooting phase. You can pick one unit within six of the model and your rolodex on the two plus. They take a mortal wound. And You keep rolling until you roll a one so you just keep doing these infinite mortal wounds until you're older ones. I'd be curious to see how many more ways you out on average or entitle actually from the bomblets cope will go to a five sleighs next which will be Charles Blackstone has been preparing and playing with the FI sleighs for a little bit of time. Now jumped I've from saving into the five slayers? What is he running? He is running the ruin Mazda. He's renting a room father. Aroon swatter and a battle Smith. He's got Ostra at three units. All hooked God overturf God to unit a twenty th God Bazookas and then he's at twenty of Hook on the Lord Lunch Unit. One is not He's got one needed in. The one is the mode of the large one is the fourth brethren and finally taking the runic firewall for title of Nineteen Eighty walking through with two To Command points. One hundred and thirty two words Under the DA launch. Going to be funny I when he wants to talk about. This is a good list. Yup I also. It's very pretty list. So we were coach. Units have gone down from that traditional thirty to twenty soclean. Y Y you calling this out. Good List to twenty bucks off the Burqas they I think. Most of the army fits into the two battalions. This is super low drops Yeah I think it's I think it's the two battalions and one Earth got unit. I think don't quote me on that And then her Being able to point I Hey Scott couple of command points. They can find that off This super resilient He's a child's plight him a lot. He's a good Playa. Sorry I think this is. This is a list to watch And I think the Michael McLaughlin. The chat has also called this out as quickly as they win. But I think it's got potential and as they call it a nightmare. Oh Yeah You don't kill lots of this struggle. You either work around it all Likely shrugging ruins on on more words and modal wins on a full class. He's regenerating command points from the courts. Bartsch he's attracting a modest from wound rolls onto the lodge By like a lot of natives but also some is a super durable nice is really hard to shift is a really tough he's brought this for Raisin Mason three drop to drop three and this one one unit that doesn't live with one best one outlier in it. Three drop is really good. Yeah what did you think of the average drop with battalion is like six or seven? Anything under five was quite good. So this is this is big ticket for For a list to watch. What's Nicotine I'm just checking? I think we've lost ninety. I think we've done. I think we've done actually falls. Let's bring up one and that as Balls bought will bring up. The Lost Sir will form list to in the chartres reasons to look at why it's fun. We have Allston cranfield. Who's running Sarah Fun? He's got this this this land star Mazda. He's got a skink stop race. Asking Stop Skinks kinks kinks five six year. Tin skinks three to raise it on one element three one year. Three Salamanders Three skinks three rivers three repairs under the shadow strikes Host at nineteen eighty with one extra command point Some ain't shooting a movie shenanigans so Ms Yeah. It's a shadow start list. It's IT'S A it's A. It's a cell phone list Lots of skinks and Euripides in your shadow start. That's pretty much it on for too late With the current state of Seraphin. That's just kind of it's one of those things if snow shadow strike it's thunder quite unfortunately Sorry that's that's not taking anything away from Austin. It's just unfortunate that because the book is so all this is only a few wise. This stuff gets run. They crossed we get something new certain they. They deserve it. Does this a couple of lists in there that have led source notes so I read that in Thornton? That's a mistake. Act there in their own. Focus Ma get glued neck that you chose those properly archive yep writing some. It's unfortunate about about Saraf on being like that but hopefully like hopefully next year we have just as much variety in these lists and we can talk about the cool new SERIFA stuff. That people are bringing amd So we've got. What have we got? We got cell phone. That's an old book. We don't maybe late late inaugural than the all the all those and then so you got those We not L. Coming your way. We know the Elza coming I've talked about joints that might turn into something. We saw that big plight on the rumor engine. The other guy that could turn into. Joyce Join Tommy's at Cancun twenty twenty one at Ku was up to me so I I think makes you'll be awesome to see what happens especially in the next few releases that are coming out in the first half of the year so you luckily next year when these Cancun is literally less than a week away. So I didn't Segue IRA's talking out have grow good it will be to see Sarah formalists next. Gm still talking about that Sir. I but anyone. That's my fault. Said wrap up the show. I guess you know. Do we have any particular coal ads that we WANNA make on? Who MIGHT WIN IT? Any any surprises. Even maybe an allegiance. That you think could could win it. Let's this At least put out allegiance Alma table when lead learn is five slice. Any reason why why we sought Chuck's lists that was listless. Messed on an August. They are literally the Kryptonite of They got bodies. They count to way to muddle through directives They can apple quite a bit of damage especially the arm stone horns of the amount of rannveig. Have so yeah. That's why okay. Clint what do you? What do you think take it out? I think zinc is going to be very strong by St- own just to how crazy some of those lists And possibly a bit of impropriety business But you still have to get the right match ups I think there's a good chance that there's going to be an RBI list on the podium by Puglia numbers as well. Oh cinch BIA August. Maybe maybe on todd site this third hundred Lists Todd to pick a pick allegiances that united. They'RE ABBOUD LISTEN. Fire via slice. It's probably a good swell on the on the record and say I think I enjoy those. Have the tools to really podium? I think they are another army. That can hate opie are really well so I will put my money on either resent. I think we got some good talented players like Matt Watkins and an extra tune running around with Zetsche. I think we've got some good. I enjoyed plays running around the lack. Solve Joel McGraw. We've we've just seen a small sample of those. Hallo hot I well in the rooms like in this room dispels take advantage off there already would executes. Its could share. I think okay you happy with your own shout of Hello Hawks as a possibility yet yet but being Mexico matchup dependent they come up against Zetsche They runs probably screwed bought. Who knows who knows to wrap up the coverage. Thank you for everyone who's joined us full What what's going to three hours appreciate you guys are staying along with me as I lost Powell at the start of the day. I hope you guys down this valuable old. The lists are available now on the the coal to glory facebook page and no doubt Clinton. You're putting them on the heralds of wall Website or our shorts that we will be around so mirroring Glory Call to glory is the official event. Cancun is just convention clint. We're going to be broadcasting on on twitch so do K- keep an eye on twitch Where they'll be coverage across the entire weekend no doubt there'll be a whole bunch of of Hashtag content creators during a post. Wrap up as well. So keep an eye out To See who wins. What's going to happen showing me? Lots of lots of lulls I appreciate you guys both being on the stream any quick shutouts you WanNa Make Wolf podcasts. subscribed to them as well. Let's shout outs the credits today. 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PMS 2.0 473 - Mac Jones Makes His Debut, Field Of Dreams Game Recap, Hall of Famer Alan Faneca, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

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PMS 2.0 473 - Mac Jones Makes His Debut, Field Of Dreams Game Recap, Hall of Famer Alan Faneca, Ian Rapoport, & AJ Hawk

"What's up. Everybody is friday august thirteenth. And you're listening to the patent mcafee show. Two point zero pad had to hop on a plane to head down to tulsa to call friday night smack don at eight o'clock on fox. It's good show today new hall of famer alan. Fanta joins the show to talk about hall of fame weekend and we got a new segment with rap sheet in rappaport stops by to wrap up everything going on around the nfl. Plus aj hawk stops by to help send you into a weekend. It's good one. Let's get to it this morning. You know last week we got a little bit of a taste of we had a little bit of a sampler platter. We had a little bit of this. We had a little bit of that. We had a lot of spectacle getting stunk on friday morning. We got to wake up in there was highlights from this year's nfl season happening now. It is preseason football but it was still highlights a football being played around the same time. We'd never seen before in this morning by the way we woke up to two games last night's highlights and i'll tell you what it a beautiful time to be a lot if you're a new england patriots fan. Let's dive right into this at boston. Corners here schmidt is here the hammered down. Boys will joining us all three hours. Not sure when. Aj will join us or internet will allow us. But we will talk to him at some point today. Alongside alan fanta joining us about ten minutes and ian rapoport for a brand new segment. Here is feel good. Friday with rap sheet who almost got beat up by the titans head coach. Just one week of go. If you're a new england patriots fan. I think you've gotta be fucking pumped about what you saw last night in preseason football. You're not going to be able to see a lot. You're not going to be able to learn a lot. But i think there are a couple things you can keep your eyes open for any to say. Oh shit looks like oh buddy right there is potentially going to be something in this particular case. I'm talking about mack jones. Who mac john. Mack joe this guy call one. Simple tweak are watching the game. And i watched the entire game because on. Nfl network here in indiana. That was the game that was on the steelers and eagles was not on. I guess there was a bunch of streams and everything people ripping it around here. They got a chance to watch it there. Rain at that after the patriots game was late night. Die so i got to watch. I drive a jalen which we will talk about watching match cam. Newton that watch butch by the way. Okay got sack chase young still a monster couple good plays. I don't know how long cam newton is going to have as the new england patriots starter. If he doesn't have immediate success which by the way he might have immediate success. This season following last year season which was a disappointment for him did not have a lot of people around him. Got the wasn't a great roster but he did not perform well. either he said can't go out like that was basically what he talked about. He came back with the patriots. Hopefully he'll have a great start. Play well with an mvp. But if he doesn't. I'll tell you what there's an entire region i think ready for this bad body. Having son of a bit out of university of alabama to be the quarterback when matt jones job on the field in a preseason game at home had to use his hands to cover his helmet because the pop from foxborough was so loud. I thought boston. Connor was potentially out of touch with the rest of new england with his thoughts and feelings on mack jones. I thought maybe boston connor was watching all these videos coming out of training camp with matt jones and he was the only one baloney bop in the match while the patriots fans i thought patriots fans were a little bit more patient. A little bit more jaded. Like let's see if this guy is a guy or not. I don't think any of them expected to draft matt jones. But then i ask once. They got him and started learning about everything they were saying about him and watching the videos of him and hearing the teammates speak about him foxborough is he cited. Yeah for another potential bland white quarterback when he came on the field. That place want bananas. Our watching the game live. I don't think you would really truly understand. It was a fascinating thing to see in the middle of preseason game especially when a very likable lovable guy has been named the starter who was just on the field moments. Before that matt comes into a hero's welcome now. The internet was saying here's a multitude of reasons why really that particular region was potentially cheering for matt. John i'm just telling you that last night was disgusting on twitter and was it started with with that whole thing in. I don't know maybe there are a couple of you. I don't know the region. I've only been there once it was gloom-and-doom looked like a fucking scary movie. When i did have a good time everybody's clean-shaven kind of weird to me. Look like gillette commercial. Every time we walk through must've but a lot of people are saying the reason why he goes. We're excited for mac because he was white corn. I'm just telling you what the internet with some people in here at the top people are saying on the internet. I do not believe that is the case. I believe that you guys are excited for the future with matt jones potentially being a great and i think after the pop in after the excitement watching him play made me believe that although thirty one different fan bases wanted this two distinct bad i mean. They wanted mack jones who had that walk on draft night matt. Patricia signed off on them. I've matt patricia didn't really do much. Great things up there for detroit. So if matt patricia light some as awkward walk and everything like that. Everybody's got the patriots stink. They're gonna stink forever. You spent one hundred and fifty million dollars. You don't have quarterback that's actually what a lot of people are saying. You don't have a quarterback. You don't have a quarterback you draft mack jones. Then he started learning about back jones. You watch matt. Jones photographic memory say smartest guy. Quick guy throws the ball onto a pin if he has to miss a couple of throws last night's one exact one throw he missed one. Throw the one in the end zone would have broken up. Anyways didn't matter where he threw it. That was perfect. Defense the ball that he overthrew on governor though that things probably totter. That's a half yard outta reach there. So that was a mess by him but i think first game potentially a little bit amped up but if you watched him and you one of the other thirty one teams that said you know what the patriots are fucking dead. I hate masol is we. Don't have to hear from them again. This guy's gonna stink you watch last night. It was in the you had this guy's not gonna stink. No i don't think he all. I says i don't want to overreact. We're not big no not at all. Never no can't do that. Would be cameras. can't with well. Well i don't want to overreact. But i think thirty one different teams fans were hoping jones at stink. I hate to say this but it sure seems like he will not in a lot of people started attacking me on the internet for saying i got attacked for saying this. I mean they were showing up in abundance old. Pj teach says your by your logic. Joe flacco has a potential. Mvp can joe flacco. Threw a screen for seventy nine yards for a touchdown last night for the philadelphia eagles by the way joe flacco wanted. Mvp candidate back and everybody got paid one hundred million dollars after winning the goddamn super bowl. I don't. I don't see how those tied together when i say mack jones doesn't seem like he's gonna stick by. Your logic says teach was not the only one bodily mark smith. Don't fall for the preseason hype man then. He screen shots to evolve. Freezing cold takes his post about ryan mallett being the guy back in two thousand eleven when he debuted in preseason saying in this pretty similar quarterback patriots ten years ago. Everybody's loving dope on the preseason hype says mark smith and i appreciate mark for following along but i listen ryan mallett who i had drank beers with fund golfed with a good time with sang with joy. Arkansas with the biggest son of a bitch. I've ever seen in my entire life in public with a. I mean i love ryan mallett course i do. I enjoy ryan mallett human. I liked him everywhere he he went in especially when i heard what he potentially doing off the field in college aren't just it's got all right. I feel like i'd be friends with this guy. Thought he was incredibly talented. But i don't think it is fair to say because i said that mack jones wasn't gonna stink to say. Oh this is ryan mallett ryan. Mallett was unbelievably talented gay. Everybody knows that love ryan mallett. This is not shot at ride ballot. Mack jones like the most accurate passer in the history college football national champion. Heisman finalists had degraded here or one of top rounds in andrea college football. And it's not the arm mechanics that we were watching and judging last night a lot of people are telling me all your watching against twos and threes. It's like what i was watching was a guy that was looking at the defense. Okay breaking down simple defense. Kate first preseason game. But i'm just talking about his rookie that composure. That he had breaking things. I guess he had the highest pro football focus football which at this point. We don't know what's going on over there. Pro football love pro football focus and they they named me punter the decade and they watch every single film and i think for pires. It's a lot easier to see if it was a successful rap or a non successful rep but there's a lot of other question marks at positions. I think people have called into question. But they're pro football focus. They watch every play that great every single one. They're dialing into a former scouts collins restaurant and the thing they said some questionable shit though questionable shit coming out from that account but matt jones had the highest pro football focus quarterback also the i think the longest ten per pets. A lot of people were tweeting. Me tell me Denison dunks thrown me a check down with two guys five yards away and you're matt johns. It's actually i think. He had the highest average attempt last night. He want thirteen of nineteen. I had that one drop won miss. That's fifteen nineteen for over one hundred yards. There's oh couldn't even score touchdown. Only kicked field goals. Quinn norton hell of a night. Go live leg. Big boot live leg in has always been that way to ever since he was in high school so much. That hardball went and slept at his house. Climbed the tree with them. Just like the whole thing to recruit a kicker and there was a big deal because people like look harbaugh's doing to get this kicker was like well. This particular guy norden was bombing balls for a long time super swag too. I was a big fan of everything. When he got the michigan. I think he kind of hits some different swings and got into a couple of different folks much. Like every kicker does potential not every most kickers do at one point in their career in college. But everybody has said about quinn norden and bell the check. I assume once hearing that this guy was looking for jobs linked in or something like that. Nobody would sign him. After coming from michigan he was once the top recruit in high school. Bill belichick goes eight. Folks hurt right. He got see always seems to be hurt. But it comes back in guys going kicking seventy since he was seventeen years old fuck. Let's see if he'd figured out they've got scene about going and selling insurance he's might be two different point. He was crushing. Missed an extra point. Which i don't know how the operation was but he was absolutely slaughtering the ball. It's great to see whenever so this would be like you know. In tiger woods is back in his drivers dowden. Churn and then he just gets up there and it's just going exactly what he wants. When you have. A kicker tucker has been doing this for so long. Why does absolutely stupid when he's been able to. When you have somebody that slaughters balls in there just hitting it so pure and you see the ball spinning slowly fast. Ben means they under undercut. It might have done it on purpose to cut through some win. But you're not going to get as much distance. He hit that fifty ardor and it was end over end. Slow rotation like the most beautiful. I mean i would assume it's how judge felt or how alexander fell or whatever may soon as they hit that it feels like it has gone like when you see that ball just spinning perfectly end over. And it's like well you fucking slob. That football i think over the net from fifty. I hope it continues to do that. Missed the extra point how we bounce back. That's a question but a lot of people are bearing mack jones for that. Now it's going to touchdown. And whenever i said i didn't think he was gonna stink. It's because everything else. He was doing the composure. The poise the arm strength was there. He was breaking down the defense simple defense. He ran a two minute drill. Hurry up at one. Eight hundred nine. I think or something like that was very if you're a patriots fan. You see that now. I don't think he'd have enough. Weapons still Like johnny one hundred. Henry awesome james weizman catching screens for fifty years for the patriots. He's still faster. Somehow i think in need another guy. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure you might fall into the same thing that we got going on here at coats if ty can't eat and pitman doesn't but man you got to be pumped about what you saw mac. The internet hates it which is good news for patriots fan. I expected a lot of hate if he did well. So that is good news but like you said. The biggest thing for mac jones was the pre snap reads him checking the the offensive line chain. Who the mic was. And that's what happened with. Can that he couldn't do that. You've been hearing throughout practices. You know camel come up to identify. The mike is and then snap the ball. Natural come up identified with. Mike is or give a fake fake and then change. See what they're doing and then he'll change the place and we will probably fall to the fact that we don't have enough weapons because the chiefs are still the standard and we're definitely not near the chiefs yep the defense and the special teams and just the promise that you see for mackey. Gotta hope he's there week. One lesson i. I love you guys. Got goose to. Oh yeah hank. Anderson is an absolute weapon. Kidding me playing in the third quarter. The preseason i don't know if that's good. And how i mean definitely was given his maximum effort it appeared as if he was not telling bill to go fuck himself in the third quarter whenever he was still playing or whatever is a vet at this point he seems to be all the way dowd in. We're calling his ass baby. Jj whoa and he was with the indianapolis colts his first. Couple years out of stanford. Jj he was absolute hell raiser on the d. line. He and david perry came out of stanford at the same time to the colts. Hank was unflappable. Leave they're incredibly. Cool guy nicknamed goose. I mean he is. An absolute stud. Athlete had injury kind of change. Things went to the jets. What happens when you go to the jets careers. Here knows what happens table. Top steve came on the show defended himself. Thank you for that. Got me into a war with house. 'cause wife right ghost. Because hey if you're a kicker in your running towards war tackles going to be. There's a chance you're gonna get got us. They just go down the fetal position he sees quarterbacks. Do it if you don't get hit. You just lay your ass down or go the opposite direction if you go towards the ball towards where everything's happening even if it's a block kick or whatever it is you're going to there's chance you're gonna get killed in live fire. Kevin huber lost his entire jaw because he was in an area a no-man's-land type area huber had to drink from straw literally for six months. He's back with the bengals. Should've been there. That's what his thought was. He got got house got hurt in that particular. Hey he played the next week so he wasn't injured but he did get hurt so i immediately sided with housego. Then i saw was goose. Who did it and go. I texted my go. You fucking after he goes. Can i plead my case. Please and i was like absolutely so he comes on. He says what if housego blocks me there. Or what if that person. What if something happens. And i don't do now. Could i have hit him a little less hard. But then he said what that football player. Yeah that'd be rude to house goofballs. Basically it's entire goosen. I got along rather well whenever we're at the annapolis goats very happy to see him with the new england patriots and he will be a weapon for you. He'll be a guy like you somehow come out of nowhere having incredibly productive season and everybody goes of course bill was able to get the best out of this guy whenever all the signs had been there that he was going to be great with that being said though. How do we feel about the other thing. How football team. How do we. It's magic hey. I got them in my seven. Par lay to win the nfc east. Thanks walked at it gave with videos. That are coming on the giants practice. What discussing that reaction wasn't even was a little bit negative thereabouts giants. Listen all right. The giants daniel jones in his third year do appear to throw the ball directly to a linebacker sitting at thirteen yards. Downfield with no one around him in this came immediately after a m blown assignment. No block. But now i don't really the offensive line. Maybe hasn't covered that. Who passes off shifts. Now that's the first team offensive line so you would hope that they would have that figured out. That could potentially happen in training camp though that is what training campus for your train that daniel jones looking and staring down. I mean a team of is so probably a friend of his this particular applying for the other team in throwing the ball late to now. Jj yellow five nine and cbs. Sports really this thing up with the caption practice right. You're supposed to get better but with what we're hearing out of giants camp with the laps. The pushups the sprints the fights that retirements then got. This happened to blown assignments thrown linebacker. I've seen joe judge punt ball. I've seen him doing onside kick. I thought the giants were potentially going to be a team this year. I thought they were going to go on a go. What we're seeing as of now which could change completely out. Think they're going to beating down in dallas watching not this year maybe next year. Who knows how that whole thing work out. I don't think they're going to be a team. I might be wrong. I don't know they ain't got dallas. I'm on her certain how who knows. What's going on here. Well they got this week. Include things up attack is throwing in. My eyes. endows has a chance obviously eagles after watching last night. I think jalen is good i. He's very good. He missed the ball but he also completed a couple absolute dimes. I think jalen is going to be good. I don't know how that team is though. I don't know how kobayashi do their thing. What do you mean out. let me get. Why do you hate this guy so much. is there something. Is there something that happened. I don't hate you have painted. Serianni has been in a way. I'm not saying anything. He has said himself okay. I mean i don't know. Jalen is good but i feel like he's just his is everybody's good nfl. Well no. i mean. I don't know you just look at last year. We were talking about big part of like some of these younger guys like you said when they don't have tape bottom they come in and he can obviously scramble and teams. Like don't really know how to i. i don't know. Do you think that your two and teams have tape on him and they know what to expect from like that makes a massive difference. Doesn't it seem around. You stinks as well. I think it. Does i now granted. This is the first year in syria on offense and it's the first year where he's going to be the guy or is he. By the way. I was on fire. Lookout flato did drop an absolute. I'm okay and flacco is always gonna play. That's like a foot search up whenever he has to but watching washington football team there. Early fits magical happy and when fits magic is happy. I think every time he's been happy to place. They have one that fitzpatrick will wear his heart on his sleeve. So whenever it gets ugly you know whenever he's riding a good one whenever they're winning win and win and go and he's doing it in right now. It feels like he enjoys the team that they have. He's incredibly smart. Everybody knows that that team though with heineke almost beat the fucking bucks. That team was very young. The culture was still young. they don't even have a name yet. They were battling what three exposes came out in the first training camp and they were still him. That team that i think is a problem in the nfc east. I think that's gonna win the nfc by far the best defense and best defense of line in that division and it's not even close and then they added weapons on offense when i tone futures fortunes months ago washington football too much better odds than they are now. I guess months ago there was plus four plus two i can look it up but yeah probably i assume so i like i like watching football in the preseason because in the first half cup of points of course but i like watching because it's like everybody tweeted me automatically because of how he performed physically those like that was the last thing i'm looking at and that is the last thing i'm looking at because physically. I just assumed the person's there if everything else about them like if the confidence is there if they seem to be have poise understand what they're doing. Let's assume the armed talent is there for mac os. Just as soon as it was everything he was doing in his first ever appearance in the nfl. That i was super pump for is like not as somebody wants to ever see the patriots be successful game. Which i don't but yeah. I'm happy for matt jones to be able to get in there and sling it because that guy was supposed to be number three overall for a long time that guy. He threw the ball to the heisman winner. Yeah so the heisman winner receiver and this is kind of the conversation about this quarterback deserve it every single time. And it's like the has been war potentially could become a quarterback award. Basically i mean without you know exactly chicken or the without mac throwing the ball there. He was a heisman finalists. I guess so might as well. Just say okay. Heisman lake quarterback basically in college. He's supposed to be three overall. He falls in the patriots of course. And that's where i got it. Which is and josh mcdaniels coaching bitch. Yeah i think we have a phone call now is going to be using the bathroom right now. Oh that's i don't have this. You probably already told me. Oh danielson have you have a great relationship though which is good to see but the point. I don't think they do about mac now. I think you have a good relationship. But i think this is very much like a bear. Bryant a I think he is. Yeah that's been the big thing right. I think there's a little bit of fear out of a mac for josh mcdaniels. Still at this point they've had a few dinners at mcdaniels house. They have they have a good relationship. But i think mac likes to get kinda screamed at yelled at because he i think can mentioned it after the game he was like i try and make him laugh but he doesn't really laugh because he wants everything to be so perfect. And when it's not he gets so mad. Mac mac jones and that's why he's kind of locked in dialed in like gable stevenson twenty four seven. A don't know. I've seen them chuck on a lot of news but the Have a good time. But i liked it. He's perfectionist photographic memory incredible. Boy i mean he is. It makes no sense that he ended up at the patriots and of course if he has this great career ten years from now everybody be like i can already hear the deep voice on. Nfl films. Saying bill belichick waited patiently instead of trading up in the draft for his guy to fall to them back patricia. Add the forget mattress played a massive role here but with the football team. I think you're foolish not to bet on to win defensive player of the year. Meaning we we're talking about it when we were walking in and now is basically the first thing don't he to us to chase. Young is unbelievable. Remember last year in the playoffs or week seventeen. He literally sack happened. Bulk came out niners in ran. Okay with outbreaking strides. One hand picks up a ball and then somehow still remains in a full strength. It was unbelievable walking unbelievable. And it's like this guy. Oh that's a different humor. There that human is like the rest of us. Tom said yeah he said last chase young after the game last night he said yeah the game really feels like it's slowed down. Let the can and what you were referring to and it will by the way. Continue to do so. Wait until he starts getting read. One is gonna get chipped in one. This is going to happen in some games l. potentially play. I mean it is. He's a weapon but yet tomlin miked up moment. We looked at jason. I never gonna lose enough games. Were one of the line by tom when you. You know what i'm saying. That's what tom uneven. Fold up the changes like you know what i mean like wink on. Stink enough to be able to get a guy with a line by tom and absolutely loved it. Staying with the pittsburgh steelers. Although i thought the steelers are gonna lose last night for the eagles and i bet pretty heavily on that strictly. Because i didn't know how long jalen was gonna play. We have an absolute steelers icon joining us. A man that just went into the hall of fame. This past weekend had an incredible speech. Also wild body. Transformation gets asked about that a lot. I assume so. I don't want to hammer away. But he looks fucking great and he sounded presidential. Ladies and gentlemen hall of fame. Offense alignment from the pittsburgh steelers. Alan not man guys. Hey how's that i mean. How many times have you been interviewed. Thus far you've been interested are introduced as hey hall of famer allen. Fan could ask the feel pretty sweet at this point. Say it all day long. So we're talking hall of famer your speech though. Let's talk about that. And then we'll dive into the football in life and everything. You sounded incredibly presidential. Your delivery was unbelievable. You projected your voice. I was impressed by your style speaking. But then your actual speech whenever you go back to. I think fifteen years older fourteen years old and whenever you're trying to write a speech like that for the hall of fame there has to be a lot of reflection going on. At what point did you fall on k. This year fifteenth year. My life was a pivotal moment in everything. I don't think that gets talked about the process of putting those words together is probably a pretty emotional one in my wrong and reading that or no. Oh definitely. I mean you'd think about being she never never thought about before you think about You never really think about how you got here. At least i never. Did you know what got me to hear what kind of guy i never really realized that i was a very goal oriented person until i started going through this process of trying to make my speech and trying to formulate and put it all together That i was setting goals my whole life. i never thought one thing about it. but Definitely there there's like a whole notebook worth of notes. that You didn't make speech that you start thinking about this process. Did you miss anything. Do you feel like afterwards. Anybody said to you. How did you not say blah blah blah. Have you gotten any of that or is everybody said the same thing as me like a incredible speech No nobody's ever said that. I think everybody's finally realized that. I only had eight minutes and Time was short. How about that peyton. Manning literally roasted some of the hall of famers in the past like it. Was that something that was really hammered home. Because i thought that was always a rule in the was it. Because you guys were like we'll set the standard here from here on out. We can abuse this thing or was that something from the hall of fame because in past guys go thirty forty minutes. It's a snooze fest by the end of it but hey appreciate everything you've done. Did they tell you or did you guys can make that decision by yourself. No no it was definitely a mandate that we were going to be cut. They they told us how it was going to go down the lights. The flashing lights the the elevator music was gonna come on like at the at the golden globes or whatever And runs off the stage and they hammered that down all the way through. And you don't pay making all the jokes about it. And i was trying to lead a revolt. Try and get us like an extra two three minutes me down. I was like man. You use a one guy in the group. I needed to help drive home. And he failed me. Well i'm sorry to get on the same page for that. But as a watcher six minutes eight minutes there has to be like a ten minute. There has to be a happy medium there because i think we all agree as fans of football and a celebration of the sport which is what hall of fame weekend is the greatest league of all time. Some of those some of those are come on. You know abuse leads the restrictions which why you guys added happen. Hopefully they'll be able to figure figured out. I thought you nailed it in your time constraints. How is the weekend lauda. Steelers are back. There hot felt like a family reunion. I assume pittsburgh west. That's what i kept saying. We moved from pittsburgh over the weekend. It was great. It was great I i've said it a couple times Family and friends The words if i if i could if i could write craft the most poignant paragraph ever written about the week what it meant to my family and myself. It wouldn't do it any justice. It was just simply amazing The pinnacle of my career Sharing with my friends and family being able to thank everybody that came along. The journey of it came up to celebrate with us. It just simply there's no words to define it congrats. Did you hear about a lot of things you know. I got invited to my First pro bowl and it wasn't in hawaii it was in arizona we to drive an hour and a half in the desert to practice. The hotel wasn't even just nfl folks. It was a bunch of conferences happening. And i remember thinking to myself like i was draining making a pro bowl. This fuck. it stinks title. And it'll be on the resume. I wear the jersey. It's very nice. But it wasn't like i had always thought it was going to be. I feel like every hall of famer in everybody. That's ever gone to hall of fame. Weekend has come out the other side of it and been like it exceeded all my expectations. Is this pittsburgh. West canton just like the greatest city on earth for a weekend because of everybody. That's there and everything that's happening definitely. It's it's definitely just a flat out. Amazing you mentioned the pro bowl. And i thought about it Some my very first pro bowl. I'm out i'm a mountain y and there's that initial meeting where they kind of give you the ground rules. The whole dan right and my very first one. I'm in there. And i'm looking around and i'm like jerry. Rice like two chairs over from me and like shit man. I'm in this room and so we have. There's the rainiest luncheon which is just hall of famers a closed doors. Nobody's in there just us and had to say moment times a thousand but i'm like shit i'm in this room man. This is like i'm here. I'm a part of this various through a lot of talk about a lot of stuff in that hall of fame. Only their their biggest line talking about the league currently the state of the hall of fame. What are those conversations business conversations or is it just. Hey let's enjoy each other's company. We never get a chance to do this You know it's a little bit of everything minutes it's about the you know the guys we lost past. It's about the introducing a new guys You know i. I got a little bit of advice going in there because sometimes the police could get a little carried away a little bit. I was told you know best advices to kind of keep your head down and mouths shut. I did a So i did. Around was as a circle. Round was ontario roundtable. I was invited to a roundtable thing. Because i was announcing the coach. Traffic in nashville in roger goodell was in there and then it was a few hall of famers in their bunch of players and they literally had everybody sitting in a circle. It was it was very interesting and there was no media or anything like that. And i just sat. I didn't get that advice from everybody. But i quickly read. The room was like i am not saying that they were just teeing off all the old guys and it was a cool moment to kinda you kinda take a trip back in time with what the sport used to be you get to hear some stories. Some gripes what can get better. I mean those moments. I couldn't even fathom you deserve every single one of those going forward for everything that you did in the sport of football and in the nfl. Pittsburgh and i said i wasn't going to talk about it whenever i introduced you. But you've got a picture of yourself with a hanging over your belt right over your shoulder and then we all see you. Just looking credible is i've asked you. I think about this before and a lot of people have. So i apologise. Maybe for the redundancy of this though is did you have to eat like force yourself to eat to be an offensive lineman like is your body supposed to be small and you were just like forcing yourself eight or is that just fool lifestyle. Change full changed. I've never been. This is my life i was. I was that kid in elementary school. That was like searching around with mom looking for the husky. Passover fit my buddy so you know as as you get as you get older you start learning oh chicken over burgers and veggies over you know french fries and all that stuff Still as i got older in the more the better eight the more a had to eat to keep the weight up. You know so. I was eating all the protein shakes between meals and stuff to to maintain that way. But i've always been a big boy and just said When i'm done. I'm going to give it a go and see if i can lose some weight and cpa sticks alan. You've done great it sticks. I battle i battle with my weight a lot. I've i've began intermittent fasting and it seems like i'm the one you know it can be a fat ass for a couple of hours a day and then you're donald. Yeah it's very. it's been pretty nice did. Did you get a chance to talk to any of the guys about the evolution of football and the athletes and everything before we had you on. We're talking about chase young but not just chasing you. Look across the board on defensive lines at this point with the way science and nutrition and workouts in everything you guys had to go through so people could perfect the science of technique and everything like that at this point the game it feels like is at a the best players of all time maybe. Is that the conversation. Hey how much better can these guys get. Do you look at that. Do you think about that at all or is that just something that is going to naturally happen. You think like you said it's should be evolution of science of athletes years of training and all a sudden you know the cream of the crop. -rises in the cream is a little bit higher than it used to be My eye rookie year. I come in to the pittsburgh steelers organization three hundred twenty two pounds. I'm the biggest offensive lineman heaviest offensive lineman on the team. My last my last year in arizona. I was three twenty. I was the smallest guy. It's crazy. I mean you got three hundred and forty pounders flying around running like four nine four eight. At this point it is insane. The game changes the rules. You a fan of that. Not a fan of that because down there in the trenches i mean now there's no cutting in between the tight end box. Believe not just the tackle box but the rules with hands face. And you guys getting slapped by defensive lineman how do you feel about all that as you're all famer so you're literally one of the faces of the league going forward forever and i don't know if that's a pressure that you're excited about or not but how do you feel about the game. The rules changes in the state of the games being played the nfl now. Yeah i think some summer needed. I think you know when you start thinking about the safety of the game. And then i saw her. You know maybe taking it a little bit far. And i think i think that's just a fine line. It's really hard for the nfl to figure out where where stop. And and maybe there's not enough guys like myself and and former players around that circle that are making those decisions Enough input in that in the game to help manipulate where those things are going. Have you said that the commission. I can't you guys make a lot of decisions are stupid need. I know i need to call. Now you're famous. You can say whatever now alan. I think what that go jacket. You just show up at any stadium any practice. Any meeting your psych wisconsin. What are we doing. I think you're allowed to do that now. I think it's like a gold pass right sure. Sort is alyssa party was magnificent. It was awesome jeb music. We had we had a dj the dj. There's a little hard to go pick it a ban. The party ended about the five thirty in the morning. I did not know you older doing it like that. Five thirty. am over there. Is that the standard for those hall of fame parties to for a lot of them. Yeah legends all hall of famers by the way or partying until five thirty in the morning when they're going that's good for the sport that's good for the game. Go ahead mister fantasy. I just wanna from steelers nation. I just wanna thank you for everything you did especially when you pulled that key block for willie parker and the in super bowl. Thank you very much With that being said we ask a lot of offensive lineman if they like what type of quarterback they like to block for. I want to what time type of running back to you because you had to rome. Who would just run up your ass. You'd famous amos airway bounce around a little bit more as an offensive lineman. What type of running back do you like to block for the most. you know. i think. I love blocker for romance. You know one thing. I knew where he was going. I kind of had a good vibe of trolley was gonna hit but you know when you run back and hit somebody with so much force and just take the pile and just you know just obliterate somebody. That's exciting man. You know when he when he which is run the pile down in pop up and start dancing around and doing his little shimmy shades That was awesome. He was just like another linemen in the backyard. Getting the ball. So i see the lsu. How is well we ever going to get back. You know he feels like we're just right there on the top of the mountain and then all of a sudden everything started certain crumbling down around there is there. Is everything going to be all right down there at lsu. Everything's gonna be fine. I think a little transition period. Afterwards when you have that great of a year that we had you know it's hard to to repeat that that awesome this all the time so a little bit down. But i think they're coming back I hope so man coach. What a legend jelly borough. By the way he's back. Oh yeah people are wondering early in training camp. If jelly borough is going to be able to get over that knee andrew. He's the back. That's why everybody's saying they still don't have an indoor practice is over there in cincinnati though fanta hard to believe but i do believe a very profound. That was very profound deep. Wanna talk about the steps towards zero campaign before we get out of here. You mentioned in your speech about epilepsy being massive part of your life. Can you tell us a little bit about the steps towards zero campaign and thank you for doing this by the way giving back to the world is an incredible thing. Thank you you know. The steps towards zero campaign is trying to reinvigorate and re engage the epilepsy community to get them engaged with their healthcare providers to try and find a new door not to accept where they are as just station in life. things get better so Steps towards zero dot com. You'll find a lot of information a lot of guidance on how to re-engage your healthcare providers the find new ways not to accept where you are and not everybody is going to be able to get zero seizures but maybe maybe going from ten to seven or five to to whatever it is. That's better than where you are now. And that's something. I could get behind and i've just been really excited about being a part of this. Yeah that's amazing and by the way you becoming a face for. That community is huge. Because i think a lot of us who maybe don't have direct relative or friend. that is epileptic. I don't think we fully understand. I know lights. I think like i feel like i have a very ignorant view on the entire thing. What is it. it's just a brain. Is it a brain thing that causes. Your body goes seizures. I don't think. I know a lot about epilepsy. I might be in the minority here. But i'm i don't think i know that much about it at all. Actually there's a little bit of like lightning going off in your brain. It's gonna cost cost you to have your seizures in different triggered. Spur for different people You know for me. I'm fortunate enough. I if it's a. It's a medication thing so by forgive. My medication is when i will when i will have one in You know for me i don't i don't hit the floor convulse but i i will take off running. I'm late for something like i. i've run. I've gone to my high school in my pajamas. One time i looked about the school. And i just went to high school in my pajamas. so i it's different for everybody but it's basically like lightning going offer your brandon. It's it's triggering on your seizure. Well let's hope that we can make worlds in life so much better without running to your high school in pajamas or whatever else could potentially happen to everybody. Thanks for giving back to the world congrats on being hall of famer. And thanks for your time. Mr fantasy guys always on his show. Ladies and gentlemen hall of famer allen fan now that the world's opening back up so many new thrills or on the horizon yeah okay and whether you've been in a relationship for years or just get started were excited to get back out there and meet new people when the moment comes come to quit. Oh that is not what they had in their copy. That was. i think they're going in a different direction. 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There's probably a lot of you know pyros in her probably fireworks people and all they should have imported some italians from From pittsburgh jim bellies to go do that thing. And just like that. Were you saying you said some battalions chances are they may have grown about italian. Sounded like you did. Did you make about italians. me power. Never say anything about about the italian. See now this is an interesting thing because deep fake gump is down. A little bit of pickle does does deep fake jump to the italians. have some italian. Deep fake gump. Is he italian or is he. We love the italians in canada because it sounded like you made it sound. Whatever the post-naples syrup on their pastas delicious that question. We don't see juju do what he did on the field last night before the game up to that same old shit do the same thing torque and in your face this morning doing the same thing. Does that make you excited about nfl. Football pittsburgh steelers foot borders at. Were you about. This looks fairly similar to last year. Worries what i'm gonna say to mike from this year. I'll because you're worried like what i do is a job and like juju basically like i'm going to say something i'm gonna fart. What are you say. Oh what are you say. Who knows you're not a. You're just italian. Something them worse. Where's this been three days. Straight was absolutely terrible things at home i. I didn't say anything bad there. Commit just a kid. Fun dog agree. I agree it's it's got energy. Their preseason everybody wants them not to do it doesn't in his face. But i do believe they are both potentially doing it for one person. Maybe jujubes also doing it for all double lamb who was ringside at a fucking africa. You're not all the time but by the way. Toast tony with that fucking joining us now tested. Iq at one sixty six for him. You're right he's been going on. We got to wrap things up. Ladies and gentlemen is time for a new segment ladies and gentlemen welcome to wrap sheet. Wrap up and friends with ian rappaport. How are you. i'm good. i'm good. That sounds that i i liked. That segment has friends involved in there. And i know that is something that normally associated with your name talk ways you laugh like gas got cancelled laws. You have to because friends who wanted to oral rhapsody. We're we're friends rap sheet we're allies. The guy got neum all of us or just a couple. You were friends. Wraps your wants to be necessarily friends with you right now day. A couple of days. You've strong dates. Love you though. If that means anything he is italian. So what does that. Tell not pervert and not a perfect is italian. it's fascinating ian big week in the nfl. Preseason games are happening. we've got three tonight. We had to last night. Were back in the swing of things. There's a bunch of drama and bullshit. What do we need to know going into the weekend about the nfl. You think that is big story lines that are potentially going to build all right so a couple of things. We're going to kind of keep them one of them. We actually saw last night. Which is what do these rookies look like right. I mean i think if you watch the patriots game last night and who was not watching patriots. Preseason football. I certainly was jones. A pretty good he did he did did did did i mean the thing about him was it. Looks like he's not gonna stink. I think that was my biggest takeaway. Look like he wasn't gonna stink because the poise now granted seven point something yards per attempt and it looked like a lot of easy completions. Missed a couple of balls but him check in running the hurry up. He looks very good. All reports are that he's been great this entire time. Cam still the starter. Is there any chance that's going to change especially not only in that situation but also chicago san fran. There's a lot of that deal went on right now. Obviously when you know you draft a quarterback in the first round all anybody cares about us. Wednesday sky going gonna play and so like matinee and bill belichick as many times as they want. Cameras are starter. andy. Dalton is are started. The questions are still gonna come. Which is good because if people didn't want a really talented young rookie quarterback to play then like that would probably be amiss right so it seems like all of these situations the head coaches have been like. We like the rookies. We wanna bring them all. We may actually pray. Play him In san francisco trae lens made place some trae lands package if you will But it seems like the veterans are gonna get out there and start. Problem is if i mean last year. Cam newton at the beginning looked like a better than average viable quarterback they got covert and it all went downhill if he falters a little bit. It's just going to open the door for mac and the thing i would say about him last night. It looked easy. Easy completions but like when tom brady was going. I'm not saying that. Jones's bernard when tom brady was at his best every throw with easy in this new england offense. And that's kinda word that reminds me of last night. I think so too also the hurry up i mean he was. I mean he looks very comfortable very confident in for me. That is why i said. Hey guys probably not gonna stink you. Assume the man who had the highest completion percentage or whatever and the history of college. Football national chip. You -ssume that the throws are going to be able to be made now. Maybe the transition is going to be much more difficult in the long ball that he missed by half a yard that would have added probably another eighty yards on his night from any would have gone. Fourteen of nineteen as opposed to thirteen of nineteen with a much larger yards and probably a touchdown by the way and that whole thing if he completes that we're having a completely different conversation about how he looks like. He is the part full way but in my eyes mentally. He just looked like he was there. Hopefully justin fields. We'll be able to get a chance to read him as well and trae lance all reports are great. They're let's swing back to something that has gotten our in our boots in a bundle. Okay are let's talk about. The jeans have gotten a little snug in the baby making regions. Were not many maybe a little bit of a little bit heat. Little heat coming through. What is the deal with this taunting rule. Can you not. I told tom that tell the. Nfl cut the shit. I don't think he did it. He would never do that. He reads that he did. Who is this is this roger. Goodell is this won't anderson and his first big play as the super left guy review guy and his first movie said. I don't want these guys having fun anymore. Why can't cosby emotional in a game that they want people to care about in an emotional game. What is this about he. And why are you guys letting this happen. They give you. I think if you ask members of the competition committee and this is where the emphasis comes from. Its rich mckay. Who is the chairman. It's troy vincent who's heavily involved in and does all the competition committee meetings. It's not that guys can't be emotional. They can be emotional. You want guys to be emotional. And i know that because we celebrate celebrations. Now i mean remember when so bridges. You should be bad now. We have like segments on. Nfl network championing. The best celebration which i love. That's the way it should be. Yes i just think So i have two two kids Beautiful kids they're awesome a great hair. And all i really want is for them not to be mean to each other right like that's i want to have fun and play sports and do whatever but just don't be mean to each other and i think that's sort of what this is about the focus on wall kids are watching okay. I'm watching now okay. Good news tell your kids. I'm big fans in place but that mindset that you just said right there get over it dude all right. We got people trying to kill each other now. I know heads up football but everybody wants their kids to watch professional athletes and they're not just playing for money. They're playing for the love of the game. The love their team college football players are now you want them to be robots and not be emotional and not be invested. There's there's different ways to look at that for the kids like okay. I don't want him to be mean to each other. That's one takeaway. I would like to argue that whenever somebody pick somebody up and places them on the ground in a very delicate fashion doesn't put their weight on that could be perceived as main but actually it's just competition it is. Sport is different indorama of competition than it is in real life. You can't do a lot of things in real life that you can do in sports so i don't think that actual i don't think that's a real. I don't think a don't give me that. I don't need that right. I don't have kids. So maybe that's one coldhearted. They're never watch dizzy. No you probably call anyway but go to do is i mean probably not feel probably feel good me. I don't care. Yeah go ahead and call me coldhearted but what i'm saying to my kid is like hey if you work your ass off to accomplish something and maybe your kids listen to this. We'll cook this part. Where i don't i won't swear because kids might be watching if you work your ass off okay. I think that is a choice. That i think that is a technically swearword. It didn't really hit me until afterwards. But whenever little midas michael mcafee comes okay if he watches you know his uncle's in the nfl and his friends that are in the nfl. And they sell happen to you. Know huge you want somebody. After something good happens or makes a celebration in midas asked me why was he mean to him while he was mean to him because he worked harder than that guy did. Okay he He beat that guy. That is what happens he. He sacrificed his entire life to be able to do that to make a good living to represent for his team in when he accomplished it. He was excited in his way of handling was by on somebody else now might as. I don't know if you need to do that okay. We don't need that. But i'm telling you that's how some people operate isn't that. Can't we do that because they're not a way we could spend this thing. That's that's a good point. And i'm going to be really interested to see how this actually like is called manifest itself on the field because people are going to lose their minds if you have the regular celebrations but a guy happens. Yeah like the ball out you now if you throw it at someone i think that's bad but like let's say spitting the ball someone's right like that's i think that's what i need to know about. The first couple of weeks is like how big a stickers are we gonna be because nobody likes the moniker. No fun league rarick. They don't even say that anymore because the celebrations but that's what it's going to be if they start getting real real stingy on some of these like is it taunting is not but still can only the and i. I hate to break this news to you. I know you've been working in avoiding fights with the titans head coach and things like that but the no fun league was training for. I think eight hours and he came back. Actually and i don't want to say it was potentially far man and we threw gasoline on. I do believe that the natural reaction was why because like you said back in the day there was no celebrations others entire segments. It makes the entertainment better. Why are we trying to get rid of this. And i assumed that if you make it a rule and say hey you can't be egregious with like throwing a ball at somebody like dancing on a logo like that but the point of emphasis i think is what scares us all because points of emphasis we all know are like super like super guided. First couple of weeks probably change it last night though. There was a situation where somebody did. A ball drop somebody. Who's in the area. They didn't call it. I wonder if walton the boys enjoy. We'll say hey. This should have been called or if that's kind of the precedent that's being set you know. I will ask about that. Because i would like to know too like. Should data's been a penalty or should that not because you know we really should know the difference. Now right between like you know say make a big hit on some instead over and you kinda like like. That's not great but holding the ball out. You know something phase happen to be. I don't know i'm i will ask your question is i. I hope that that was the right call. I hope so too. Because you can't take emotions out of this you know you can't you can't take emotions out of the sport and some guy. I'm not saying everybody should be like that. Okay and i think there's a lot of celebrations that were maybe a you're doing much. I think there was a lot of that. But if somebody's natural move is to n even yell at somebody like i. Why are we changing. I don't know why are you taking that out of the competitive like why are you taking competitors out of competition. Just some people will do things differently and by the way if the quiet person doesn't like that easy way to stop it just meant to play. You know what i mean like. That's kind of how sports have always been handled. So i think you know like hey. Wear your seatbelt type law. We got going on here. I think is maybe my natural reaction would be like okay. I put on myself if i want to. If they don't want me to scream in their face tell him not to fucking like. There's there's a lot of that. I think i might be in the wrong. I might be old school. Might not understand. What's going on the future and i don't have any kids so i guess that's an entire thing. Doug she in. Joe show comments dealers late round pick will pick. Are we looking at. What was going on in jacksonville. he's a tackling machine. Why didn't want him. they just pay them last year. What's going on in. Yes good still always good. I was. I was a little surprised by now. Knew the steelers were looking at all sorts of different options as far as trying to find a linebacker right. There lost vince williams which they were surprised by that. Like he's locker room later literally showed up to cami. Kevin colbert gm. Tell me about this. When i was there right before you guys jumped dumps in absolutely incredible sandwiches in my lab. pay we appreciate you rap sheet man we do. We really do that was may watch So right so basically eventually showed up was big into their plans and they're like he was like i don't feel it anymore so i'm not gonna play and they were on a mad dash for linebacker and joe shelbert is good. He is kind of expensive Seven and a half million dollars. So that's what the steelers pay now. And that's why it's a late round. Pick and he is a tackling machine. He does have great numbers. But i think what's going on now is you're gonna see the jugglers defensive. Probably look like the ravens defense and they have good linebackers. Generally with the ravens. But they're not guys that cost a lot of money like they believe they can get it done without high priced guys. They invest a lot in the front pay. A lot of defensive tackles but not a lot of linebackers same organization that leads. Cj moseley go because they don't wanna franchise and like i think that's more would this is plus. He's an old regime guy and you don't get the benefit of the doubt if you're an old regime. Guy in urban beef is because he announced the drill winner like vermont on that thing he was like joe chevron just lost again any costs seven million. Is that happened down there or is it just business. I think you're gonna see. I don't know for sure that urban fell out of love with joe shogun. But i do think you're going to see some interesting and fast. Declarations decisions by urban meyer. Because that's kind of this. I would imagine cut down day and the next couple of weeks for the. Jags are going to be interesting and usually see a lot of turnover. You just don't usually see it in camp. Usually it's like march. April is when you see the new coaches make there impact. I liked bourbons finally got because remember his big problem was he didn't get a chance to meet a lot of the guys he's bringing him before he even signed him now. He's getting that guy's not on the edge. Get him out of here. He ain't bout duval get him outta here as well. Hopefully it works. If it doesn't obviously people compare him dow sabin was when he wants to the nfl. Many other end Also chip probably chip had some successes between portray. No i mean he had workout at all by the way down here in atlanta. I from what i was told. There was a allegedly players that were going to fight portray no actually. Yeah whenever he was at. Allegedly these are just alleged things like a. You guys aren't allowed to speak on the bus. Between trina got flock. More kids than you do. How about you. How would you get the hell out of your go ahead. Connor two questions one. Will we see nicky on the sideline with a headset into what six son of a bitch. Nfl network puts this leon on a massive chair last night. Yeah let's before we get to the caserio. Let's talk about sicily. On the way. You guys are handling. Him is unbelievable he should be filing every grievance. He can boston file. You had him sitting in the same. Chair william mcginnis sitting in and you guys the way. The camera was willie's closer to the camera. Then sicily on so not only is he sitting on a love seat or looks like he's sitting on a love seat they're also put them further away for. I don't like what the nfl networks on training but back to caserio so there's gotta be a better word when you're sitting on a love seat by yourself there's gotta be a term for that like it can't be called seekers there's obviously no love you're by yourself. Wow that's what the nfl network has showing is know how seat there. Yeah look at that. Come on that's not the only one by the way whenever they're on the road at camp next to joe thomas said they had him downhill to joe. Thomas joe thomas closer to the camera then him sis two feet tall. I mean it was unbelievable sisley auto incredible hosts by the way big fan of the way he runs. Things thinks he's very. I think you guys need to have a little bit more respect for this guy though. He doesn't need to sit and david baker's chair every single time and he goes on tv. That's all we're saying absolutely fair I think that is what by the way a love seat is called. If there's only one person. Oh david. Baker david lynch. Okay prentice show. He's just big great guy but just very large four hundred pounds. Let's go now back. Sorry that we kind of because we do out some gripes with your network with what they're doing steiner especially this week that italians have had thus far boom. Let's go to another time to syria down. Houston yeah so i would. I would be surprised if he was on the sidelines. with a headset and i don't know for sure of general managers are allowed to be but he was on the headset in new england in the booth He was one of those draws of him as gm is that he can do a lot of things he can jump into drill and do it and get in the mix he can has. A great army can throw two receivers. He can coach. Which i believe is done on some level And he gets in the booth and kind of up high and has a headset on. Who's involved maybe putting information. Maybe just wanting to know what's happening the inner workings of his team. It is a different setup. And i think you know when you have a situation like shawn watson everyone questions everything i've never. I do have questions with how they're handling that. But i've never had questions with him being on a headset because as gm. You should literally no every single thing happening with your team. And i think that does help them get in for okay so houston's fan base is incredible. Every time i played down there they were loud. They're all in. I think it's very old school. All the way back to the oilers. It's as smart football fan base. I think there are passionate group. But what's going on down and texans right now you've got a through or things he's owner. You got an owner. Who thinks he's a pastor got gm that thinks he's a coach and you got a coach. Wants to be a fisherman wants what the hell is going on down there i. It seems like they are the team going into the season. That has the most amount of shit is that is an accurate. Are they the ones now. Obviously when i say shit. I'm not talking about the incredibly serious allegations are happening outside of the football world to the most important player on the team who is also the biggest salary cap it at quarterback and i don't know how that's gonna get handled. You have always brought us in incredible information on that situation. That is confused us on how they're going to manage that whole thing but the texans team that's destined for complete failure rate at this. You can't win games. It's not easy to win games in the nfl. especially whenever everything seems to be going haywire. They are they going to have any success. you think. Is there any optimism. Come out of the camper. They feel good about everything I wouldn't describe them as feeling good about everything. Because there's so much you're right. There's the obviously serious allegations against shawn watson. there's basically complete roster terminal just absolutely complete turnover. I mean they just. I know they went in there and did not think very highly of the talent that had been accumulated rightfully so they got rid of a lot of people. I think improved a little bit at basically every position so they should be with shawn watson a little bit better than last year and kind of moving up problem is. I don't know if they're gonna have to shawn watson. I know he is still intent on not playing there so you talk about situation where could be terrible. Well let's say at some point. They eventually trade shawn watson and they themselves are bad will then if you fast forward a little bit then you have a team. That's terrible that'll be trading their franchise quarterback for a ton of picks. So they'll have a high pick and then they'll get a lot of picks and then they have very few players on the roster that anyone is tied to or you contractually so. I think that's what a restart looks like. So might they be bad. This year could be bad. Yes but in the future. It's not that crazy. Maybe easterby is looking at every other team and say. Hey it's time to pay tides. What easter being mcnair. We're gonna do to rebuild that thing and their name in there is in their vision with caserio in jesus himself at the helm. i mean. there's a chance. Chances texans team gets back because afc south is only growing. Too bad time to be a texan. Hopefully they'll be able to figure that out. Go tie thank you for your time report right. By the way. I know vergara twitter account said that. There's no cause for concern or anything but if you heard anything more about dax Little strain he's got going on down here is like he's a tough spot. Obviously because they want to get him ready for the season but i mean like is he going to miss an extended period of time in the preseason here with us the way was described to me was you'll probably see him in the third preseason game which actually for the couch is the fourth preseason game but that is the whole get him on the field for like eight plays let them throw to passes quickly and get him out of there and start the season. I've been sense any concern. I think the only reason there's concern is because the cowboys twitter account tweeted that and they are a little different now. There are do criticism of commentary. They are more open in opinionated than a lot of other teams. Twitter accounts But i think it's hilarious. Because all they were trying to do is not raise concern and then everybody read. It's like oh my god there's concern. It's like when you start a conversation with. I'm not trying to insult you and you're like oh god what is coming here. I didn't actually you know. I didn't actually panic. Because he was throwing. And if you read into it dacca's actually waiting to get back to dallas to get the so they can further. No that was going on but just like you immediately upon hearing somebody say this a reason to worry. It's like what here we go. Here's a panic. Twitter overreaction but i- deck. Hey that washing football team. Hey what fits magic. Seems like they are a lot for that. Nfc now dallas. When i do. I think so per scout the cowboys personnel is good agree. I mean i is good always and jerry. Maybe we'll get a little bit more jerry hard knocks. Maybe they'll change the way i view who's going to win the nfc eastern and a little bit more jair little bit more big my eyes. Let's keep zeke in there are. Let's let's let's keep this thing go and there's been a couple bad hard knocks. Everybody says i enjoy because it's like a peek inside of a building like basically my life was but i hope this could be very good with how great their personnel is. To your point lotte superstars lock and around that building down there. Dumpy rap sheet. How much time do you think to get tomorrow when the dolphins first preseason game i would say my ga- i don't know for sure but my guess is probably not quite as much as everyone thinks could well. I'd have to go back and ask and look at this. I don't know how much he got lashed. I know they wanna get them. Reps it. Just it's never worth enduring anyone So i'm sort of the opinion of like just to get him get him get their feet wet. Let them to a couple of times maybe get hit once in some sort of semi safeway and get them out of there You know it's it's taught him in a safe way. Don't be mean don't taunton. Don't be hit him in a safeway. It's football. i mean that's real life. It does sound like a pretty good camping. I don't know what he's going to end up being but it seems like at least now. He is a viable starter with a team with defense should be really good. Follow like you know. I think i think they'll be okay man. We have one of the only dolphins fans on earth. He's very. Wow yeah he's actually wanna make. Jim gaily retired because he announced that he was dead. Tired did not go great. Well that's how he felt two and he was very loud about it. Basis and we assume that are members of the gainey gaily family saw that. And maybe lead this whole thing. So we're we're potentially talks are toxicity knows no bounds especially when it comes a canadian bearded dolphin fan last thing before we get out of here. Though right yeah. He's from north left canada. That's a lot to handle right there. Fan of the dolphins down here. Yeah it makes sense. He also loves the red sox. Go shops they stink. No we're very good. We're going to make it in the on the key. La yankees are hitting bombs moving games. Well that's because they've put baronet britney mentioned the yankees game last night so the homerun in i guess it was the top of the nine Into the cornfield the yankees hit There is a great shot of a very large yankee fan going absolutely crazy on. tv walls. My college roommate off we saw big drunk out. There you have. That was awesome. Great moment. how much did he pay for that. Did he win the lottery ticket into their. Did you reach out to woman. How how did you get in there. Is i guess they were selling for yeah. I saw people. scalping him. Two tickets for ten thousand bucks last night. He has been planning to go for like two years so i think he had. I think he had the tickets on. Lock yeah what a heartbreaker the very end so great a lot going into the weekend before we get out. Who are your mets fucking. Stink mets guy. Yup yup coming off a big sweet boggling. Stink right. They're not going to be in the game. They're not going to be racing. Back in september. Get syndergaard out of the bullpen. Bag is a lot of good things happening with the mets coming out. Now how many home runs in the mets hit. Niwa not this question. Let's move forward last question before we get out of here. You can't thank you enough for your time on this beautiful rappaport. Wrap up and friends rap sheet. Wrap up in friends conversation here on this field. Good friday the thirteenth. Aaron rodgers and green bay packers. We don't know anything. What are you know it. Looks like he's slinging it all over the yard into buckets. How is the whole coon bio situation. Go and we saw kunst press conference immediately after earns. Thirty five minute piece of art that he did vintage vinton game in. They're still a little snotty still little arrogant. I think he came off. A big fat stooge in that particular instance. But they said there's pictures of them talking again. What are you know on your side. Are they getting back. Together is aaron rodgers can be a packer for a long haul at the. Is that how it looks right now or are we still doing the same issues. Business to when this deal happen immediately. Everyone was one more year for rogers. Last dance You know him and devante did the pictures on instagram together. And that's it. i am not so sure. Oh i'm really not because they seem not combine jaba fine right. I mean you don't have to be best friends with japan over the nfl star players. Who are fine but not friends with management's management. It's not like you have to be best friends with your boss although obviously in your show. You're the boston. Everyone is actually enter you but not always like that. It'll end at some point. I know that yeah. Of course you end before. This bella check k. Seems like our time is about. Yeah and then it'll land before it gets it. Yeah well. I've already told you that you can't do something else. Probably at some point. Go back to smoking when laying concrete. Grammy i'm too much money to get back into the concrete thing. You probably blow to many six if i true especially that new mall. You got what what mustache. Sorry about that. But you're right. Get along with your boss. I really think. I really do not know if he's me back next year but i think they're going to be really good. I think if they're going to start paying attention to him and listening to what he says and even if they don't do always do. Roger says just understanding his point of view it could be okay like he has said very clearly as you mentioned that absolute masterpiece for press conference. He doesn't wanna be a or quarterback which at least would make me think that he thinks about possibly coming back again so he's not a lame duck and i don't know Maybe they had to get through it and get out the other side to kind of appreciate things. I don't know i think there are a lot of options. As far as hallett actually ends eventually. I think one side does appreciate things. The other side is ingrid. It's you talking about i. I think. I know which side you're talking about. Yeah i just make sure we had that clear describing things like well. What will your son. You're talking about both roads. i think no. I think it's a one way street of suck happening for a long holiday. They just meet personally. I am biased. Kazan ragas tuesday is back. Wow yeah you're welcome. That'll help your help your season out. I think that did you just make the announcement. Did we knew this or this guy stinks. Yesterday did hire. Thank you so much. Playing golf g. His house game house again. Shot eighty five fantastic. How many mulligans breakfast ball did you fluff now. What played with one ball the whole time. I shot thirty nine back. Life is absolutely good. Never playing against two good. Yeah this was the last round of the year. Yeah before football season actually work and stop being just a slap dick wilson. Why's that keep happening. And we can't take enough. Have an incredible weekend. We're so thankful for you. Keeping us updated on everything that's happening in the nfl world. Enjoy preseason you on nfl network. All day this weekend. Or no i am. I will try to sneak in a couple appearances before. The games of go to the pool come do. Tv go back to the cool. See how it goes. What a life do host of rap sheet. Wrap up in friends the show. That's on hiatus. 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And you will too. If you haven't used yet use it now author fantasy on their daily fantasy and free to play games or you can win money shots handle shout to you. Let's get back to the show. Aj did you watch any of the preseason games last night and if you did can you tell me why. I've got attacked by the internet's with me saying that. It appears as if matt jones is not gonna stink it. That's what my big takeaway from the night was last night watching him. His confidence his poise. The two minute to hurry up. It seems like he made no. Ma's he missed a couple of throws if he hits one donner who he is used to throw into. Jim waddell and not a cornerback from bemidji state and smith. Four two or something my car. He overthrows him by half yard is complete different night. I fear for everybody that mack jones is not gonna stink. I think he's going to be good. Jayhawk why are people upset by this because ryan mallett. Obviously ten years ago he had a good preseason game. I told joe flacco so you're going to be a fucking mvp. That's what people were told me. Because he threw a screen pass for a touchdown last night in look very comfortable. It's like no in also you didn't just throw check. Downs is average. Seven point something yards or what. It's just for me. I got attacked. I think because the hatred for the patriots. And i think that is something that on the opposite end of that as somebody who's a patriots fan the way he's feeling the complete opposite is how everybody else in the way. Connor feels is i year. Ever mother dynasty be dead forever and here we are year later and holy shit. We got fifty more years a super bowl football. Yeah pretty pumped. So that's what he's at okay. And that's where new england's at and i got a lotta check marks from the new england area re tweeting that tweet and there's a lot of masol's coming in like we're back but on the flip side. I think a lot of people thought that honesty was dead. We never going to have to hear from these motherfuckers again. After tom brady went down to tampa one of those super bowl. I think that is what people thought. I was implying. I'm not. I was just saying after the first preseason game with all that you can get out of reading the first preseason game i feel as if he's not gonna stink. I think he's gonna be really fucking good actually now. I don't know if he's going to be great but i think he's not gonna stink in. That is a nightmare for thirty one of the franchises who were celebrating their demise. Just a little bit ago. I think i i understand now more why people are coming at you. Yes so people are just fed up with the patriots went in there saying hey there time is done they we don't want to watch them dominate again. Hey who cares what like get over that but when it comes to i would be more worried. I'd be questioned. Who's gonna be our starting quarterback like you have. How do you feel about cam. I know he didn't throw the ball down. The field much didn't have many many opportunities. But cam still. Obviously we're not changing anything now. But i think you have to feel good about if you're a patriots like hey man we got some guys. Did you see see. Johnny smith catch to early. John looks like a guy. I think they're gonna need one more weapon if they want to keep up with the top of the nfc. Just i think they were allegedly in on julio so they might be thinking the same thing michael. Thomas seems like he was available. Maybe a couple of days ago. And i think new england's name got thrown out because they do have the capability to go in. Make a play there. But did you hear the pop when mack jones came on the field. Did you see that reaction. Didn't he have thought. I saw over minute standing. Oh oh yeah was fucking banana. land dude. They were going crazy for him. And we thought maybe boston connor here was over exaggerating. How excited he was for mac. Jones with every day came and new story or rumor or Fairy tale or folklore or tall tale about mack jones and every day. Connor was just eating. Like zeke at a. Just old zeke at a bulges agian going in. I think all of new england's feeling that way. I mean we've never really had like a rookie. First round quarterback come in and have like the hype and expectations around. Because like when. Tom came and obviously one ninety. Nine wasn't supposed to be the guy and we haven't had one. Maybe since ryan mallett if you wanna throw that guy's name back out there but that's everyone's so pumped you finally get a rookie quarterback go seven and nine. Maybe we can turn this whole thing. Looks like we will. Tom came in too though the patriots. The patriots made them the true without tom. There's no this is like troy. Aikman said jimmy. Johnson and jerry jones the hall of fame thing like those two. I guess had super beef. They've been friends since college. Freshman year of college roommates. Or something like that in goes. Hey hey listen up jimmy great hair k love the house down the keys beam in from It's a fox and do great on tv. I love you approach. I love you as a peer here at fox. You wanted to be the coach. Where without jerry. By the way just exactly same thing there. You would have been anywhere near the owner without jimmy okay. You do need that. Obviously be the tom bill bell. Check thing but you're right. That dynasty didn't start until drew brees took one of the hardest shots in the history of football. It took him to a hospital and then ended up retiring. Though yeah yeah sorry blitz drew brees is completely okay by the way he had broken lungs of herbs last year but drew. Bledsoe goes into the winery. After that shot that dynasty begins but matt jones potentially coming in being the first one fourteenth fifteenth fifteenth fifteenth pick overall in the nfl draft after their first bad year forever. You know in in cham cameras up against it. Here cam very lovable. I love i love cam. Laughter what he did last year and then if he does anything wrong this year with the way there yet. That is a mac jonestown. I think until they are deemed. Otherwise camden deserve. Cam does not deserve it. He could have won more games last year. I guess but he didn't have a great roster around him so he just kinda in the situation. He's in there. But that is a mac jonestown right. Yeah absolutely you guys talked about it yesterday. Like the pocket presence. That type of stuff is so important and it just clearly already maxine to have a much better feel as boats cam who doesn't have a bad field. But everybody wants to see mac and he can make checks at the line with puts that cam has obviously struggled with struggle with last night which led to the j xiang forced fumble. Had to get the jitters out there on that i pass a little low guy caught it and then bill was out. It's fucking preseason challenging. What we have now. We have a third downplay cool. We'll work on a third down situations kind of how bill who also allegedly got upset with ron rivera. Time out with twenty one seconds left in preseason game. Bill belichick okay. What have we fucking doing all right. Where are we going to say though. Yeah i was agreeing with. Aj you guys are talking about like. It's great mac. I thought looked great last night. But you're not gonna win a lot of games sitting on the bench being the backup. Yeah are you saying. They need to start them. Yeah we'll know balls dude. Yeah but when's the last time that's happened. It has been a few years a lot of injuries that have happened. he's healthier analogies. Ever been which takes me to another quarterback. Tom brady says he feels better than he hasn't. Fourteen years greatest of all time says i am. I haven't worn new sleeve in forever. His knee flicks. Last year was allegedly. Not fun pain wise. But tom just powered through and they won allegedly behind the scenes and this not. The first time that tom brady has battled through something that would be very painful to go and play football. The guy loves the sport. Remember he added almost damn near the suture up thumb or on thumb two days because rex ran into him on a hand off exchange for a playoff game. The thought was he wasn't gonna play put a glove on. Shot up one. They got what tom brady has done. Nobody talks about his durability mostly because he falls down if anybody's around him like that's kind of his move like i'm going to get to the ground as fast as possible here but if he was playing as much pain as christians and said he was last year. But how uncomfortable was who's as quarterback coach. Now he's feeling even better. He had a good off-season second year in the system. Got guys back. I mean that's scary for everybody. i think. I think it's absolutely scared. You can't see like tom slow. It doesn't look like tom. Slowing down is what. i'm saying. Like any could be helps that he never was like an out of pocket guy. That's flying around. He doesn't have to to count on that because guys eventually their legs will go and they'll slow down a little bit but tom doesn't need that his arm seems to be as strong as it ever has so whatever he's figured out he he hasn't. He has a role in and he has a his mindset. That's the biggest thing about tom. His mindset drives everything he doesn't care he just gonna find away he's gonna win. He's gonna play through everything he's gonna find a way to get pissed off a chip on a shoulder. He's gonna win. He's still pick one nine two nine in his mind and with a quarterback coach. Clyde telling him you know. Niners big josh rosen or other places like that. He will continue to be motivated now. He's healthy with we. All know about the tb twelve and pliability. Looks like he's going to be able to play while we're chit chatting about him. Never really being a guy that flies around so as durability is be able to last longer than some of the guys that made me take more shots outside the pocket which is an added bonus to the game. It's not a drawback but you're jeopardizing long-term long-term stuff whenever you're playing like that you're adding different dynamic. I'm not trying to slight the out of the pocket. Mobile quarterback athlete quarterback. I love it. I think it's a big part of the game. But i wonder just alongside everybody else especially with the mac. John's conversation going to san francisco over the potential trae lance or justice fields. Or somebody that can move We wonder like is the pocket quarterback. I i don't know if you've ever did a much smarter than i in football world is the pocket quarterback potentially dead with this the pocket passer potentially dead with the way the offense is with. Rpo's with the way. The rules are offense. Alignment are basically allowed to be down the field. If you're doing some stuff which is a massive advantage. You gotta use every single square inch of the field. You can do that now. If your quarterback can move adds a lot of things and you know why. Would you get a quarterback that couldn't move in nowadays with the way the offense is the pocket passer will survive forever Because there is a. There's a proven success. You have to have a line obviously because you have to have a pocket when you have the pocket passer but there will always be a place for somebody that can just standing there in. throw it even though. Those jobs are probably going to become much smaller in the coming future. And think of where. They're getting those quarterbacks. They're all coming from college running. These spread offenses in three in the gun. And they have to have these rpo. So you're naturally. You're having more athletic guys playing quarterback i think early on. I don't think it's gonna turn to where everybody is like. Lamar jackson type quarterback where there so athletic and they run for so many yards but it definitely will be. I mean mahomes is pretty much a pocket guide but he can move. He's deceptively fast very his pocket. Savvy is unbelievable backpedal like you say and throw it a million miles. But yeah i think i mean a hybrid. Seems like the best of both like aaron is absolutely a pocket guy. He can be that guy but he's so athletic. In so quick and does have that pocket presence to slide and in the pocket. Well here and also and i think that is why patch moms aaron are always same commercial saint conversations same everything basically because aaron has his own that hybrid slot is very much like that in the history of football. That is in the thing about it is he. Has that ability to move just like patch. Mahomes does impact quantum said that he did. This super bowl needs to work on it. But aaron somehow avoid the temptation whenever things are crashing down he still was like i pocket. Passer pocket passer pocket passer. Then it's like all right now. I have to make a move or whatever. There's a lot of plays last year even where that pocket is all the way on him. And these you're sitting in their delivering it when he could have just skirted out. Everybody remembers the play before the feel like. He's looking to pass pass pass. But he has the ability to move patched roms very similar thing but i just thought that there was a chance if you couldn't move if you couldn't be hybrid if you couldn't be the all out best athletes on the field quarterback mark jackson is kinda murray has a little bit of that he's going to continue to hopefully get better and better at that thing. I just thought you had to move. And that's what jones had to have a second pro day. Actually they wanted him off. Balance throws in moving. So i thought that was a very common narrative in watching. You know like tom. That would mean that i would have to be saying like oh well then. Tom's not going to be able to keep up with this league for four or five years and it's like if they protect them he'll be able to do it every once forever. There will always be a place for that. And i think people were trying to tell me that whenever i was being a bit dramatic maybe about that whole thing i would want a guy that can move personally but there's definitely a way to win the match. Jones can't move which who knows if it can't or not i mean. They said he's much more athletic than you think. And all that enforcers three but him and cam vastly different. It but if you can sit in there with mcdonald's with that offense with the reeds to if they're running the same one that edleman was able to eat off of in mac and the wide receiver can be on the exact same page in the photographic memory can tell him exactly what's going on. I mean there's a chance at that offense is going to be going. I mean there's a chance especially if everybody thinks are mcdaniels. Is the air in steve ballot. Check is the air. And then matt patricia. The gm air. It's like they'll be able to keep that in system forever. They just got to hope that their success in it appears as if there's definitely a chance that that could add on him coming from sarkissian offense doesn't hurt either because that was the nfl prototypical emotion. The rpo's now that even if you look at a lot of these quarterbacks drafted like boroughs definitely a pocket guy can still move. Herbert obviously can move. I mean there are a few. It's almost like a the because of how the offense is in college are with the spread no matter what they have to kind of have a little bit of though did not that alabama offense was him sitting there and it was seven on seven basically because when they would run the ball nause he would go and then when they want it and he would be able to just hit devante smith wide open. He was sitting in four perfect form. Yeah i saw him a lot and it was just not moving. Everybody else does have to move you going to say something. I'm sorry what was it. Oh i mean. I think you to be successful quarterback for a long time to have a long career. You can't be like a a a run. I guy where things break down. And you know there wasn't that mitch. They were trying to get mitch to stay in the pocket longer. He wasn't trust. And then all of a sudden. You wanna use your athletic ability and get out when if you just need to hang a beat longer for something to open. As if it's guys that are passers. I and they have the athletic ability. Can't beat be with their legs. That's what you want. Not a guy that his first instinct is all. Let's talk this thing run. Because i'm more athletic and i can beat everybody now. Unless you're lamar jackson okay. If you're lamar that's the thing like there's there's a few outliers. He's an absolute outlawed. Because i'm like okay. Can you move mark and throw like lamar do you have his mindset. Okay then don't talk like he's he's different. Lamar jackson's an alien jumps over jet skis or runs into the heat. Does everything hey mosk couple guys in flip flops. I mean he's like him hitting that guy with that stutter. Step spin move all following. It's like then. His pants came back in. Let's let him do that. That is awesome but to your point josh allen. He was moving a lot. He got better passing baker mayfield. He was moving a lot early. He got better in the pocket. Patrick mahomes still getting out of the pocket more. It seems like although the narrative is is very much like hey out of pocket out of pocket. Gotta be able to make these off balance or has got to be able to move got to be able to extend that accurate. I think that has all one hundred percent accurate. But when you listen to these quarterbacks talk they all say i gotta get better in here is where i gotta be accurate. You're going to be an accurate passer. Like accurate guy no matter what. Your athletic ability is swinging fifteen overall picks. How do you feel about do. Haskins pittsburgh steelers fan. He was what sixteen of twenty two for. One seventy led three touchdown drives. I don't know you tell me if that's what you want out of your quarterback for a football team what mason mason was eight of nine for seventy something almost almost got nausea did get nausea killed which did piss me off pretty bad. You're unhappy pretty bad. Classy basement where he doesn't know where to go like when things don't up me panics. And then he stared at ad nauseam about. I don't know three or four seconds that hey we'll throw this ball this guy like three seconds. Everyone run as fast. You can't at him and then when they threw them so he pointed at him. Yeah pretty bad. That's like mason. We'll make a nice throw every once in a while. But then he'll do some shit. Mike completion in the nfl. I did stare down my receiver. So i don't want to judge them for that. But it does feel as if quarterbacks are good in the nfl have an ability to disguise where they're headed. I it is very. I'm manipulation is a huge part of being a quarterback in mason. I if you're saying that it was a problem last night he eight or nine almost killed a guy. The the pit mason doesn't move right. That guy can't move. do there's doing wrong Not really. I mean he can but yeah. That's not his yeah. He's a slinger. Mack jones prior and a better forty time. The need is first touchdown. Pass line though. He broke out of the pocket on the run. Put one in the back of the end zone like he can. He can maneuver through the pocket. Well enough to scramble and throw you can extend the place. That's been rothlisburger by the way just classic extending the place. Pittsburgh excited for dwayne haskins mostly. Because you hate mason rudolph because you think like yeah this guy. Actually i hurts dwayne but he has all everything that everyone is tweet. Now like. who's been camping stuff like that. Says he's look good so it's both things but jalen hurts last night. Also big time you know spotlight on what. The eagles are gonna look like this year. Serianni talk to the media before the game about the game and his thoughts were this. Well jalen is going to go out there. And he's going to break down the defenses as complex as they may be. He's going to do very simply and very efficiently because i've been talking to him all week about the minor small details and that's how we're going to beat the pittsburgh steelers. We're going to win. This football game. Jaylen is going to look good during his football. Serianni actually said we'll win this game row quit and now what he said. He was considered it but once again. We didn't get to implement the kobe element for tonight's game. Because things were not ready. Lovett kovic has ran rampant on on us in that regard but we will get that implemented those little things those little small details that you love bringing get those ready to go before the next game and we win. We will win our next football game. You i guarantee you. You can mark that down so you thanks coach the ask you a question all right here we go. He's pro press conference coach. What's your what do you think your record is going to be this year. Well again it. It depends on those things. We're trying to do those small minor details in a lot of that comes back to jalen plays a competitor. He loved paper scissors with me and the meeting rooms. He does pretty well. I think he's won about sixty four percent of those games right now if i had to guess our division is i mean. It's an e. Smashmouth football. So i i don't know if i had to guess i would be very very happy if we want at least four games issue coach you. Being a first year coach mike clones illegal longtime very successful. Did you talk to him. Pre-game did you learn anything from michael last night. Not really tom kind of before the game. Because i think he saw of my previous press conferences. And i didn't get any facetime with him but i did hear someone say this guy's a fucking stupid so i figure. I figured that they didn't want to talk to. I don't know i had a football game. I need to get ready to coach coach. Jay this is over here now is so rude. You're the first one asked the question the first member of the press. I didn't know where it was going. Oh jay anyways. Let's get the jalen. Though jalen there was a bought a gutter got her out to the right seemed to be like maybe a banana around. It seemed like a- almost like a to. Yeah maybe i don't know but it fuck it dude. Rain and route covered and jalen through an absolute seed. It was a rope. It was the seat. It was right in a spot. The only spotted could have been. Lemme could still run. It was a perfect ball. And i didn't get a chance to really see a lot of the game because i only got to see one of the games here in indiana on nfl network which is twenty twenty one fucking aching. I not watch guy damn game. Come on eight hundred. Thirteen billion dollars was sending. I can't find the steelers eagles game. I don't know why. I wanted to watch because the competition happening in pittsburgh but jalen i think looked very very good in some some aspects. Missed at one ball down the left. There was a drop that affected entire drive. That would have changed everything. But i think jalen looked very good as well last night. So if you're an eagles fan there's probably not a lot to celebrate with the entire roster especially a statue was built a couple of day a couple of years ago but maybe hey maybe things are going here know. Someone who in the past has not been jalen fan. I thought he did. He threw some good ball last night. Even the deep all that he missed to the left I don't even know if that was on him or the wide receiver but now i was kind of impressed by jalen. Okay i'm looking at the stats. I didn't get to watch the whole game here. Jalen hurts three of seven for fifty four yards. Joe flacco tennis. Seventeen hundred seventy eight yards. Td seventy nine yards of that screen. Okay i get in. That was the one touchdown. But that's still ninety nine yards right if you do the math one. Seventy eight seventy nine think is how long it was. So ninety. Nine yards against hurts is fifty four yards seventeen attempts for seven attempts. Why is flacco getting on this extra work instead of jalen hurts. Aj's zip because footsteps flacco potentially going be. You got to keep him fresh. Because you never know when you're going to need the footsteps coming and save the day but hurts only had two series. I think so. He's definitely the star. Feels like right. Yeah that that's what it looks like. There isn't it his relationship with the voluntary as well. Like if devante smith's out there on the left side where he barely overthrew that dude. For the ninety five yard touchdown catch that and things inside too. I think on that particular one buck. The turtle thank the wide receiver. Stack the corner. Which is another food conversation to be. Had on was quarterbacks and wide receivers fault if we are slavsky or trent dilfer well where he threw the ball where the song that should have been seems to always be the way which by the way might be right. Who knows but. I think in real life. It's not as easy as just stack. The guy runs a four to you. Should be able to do that. And then we'll be able to put the ball out there. But i'm plump for a preseason football dan campbell. Mc dc debuts tonight there's way aligns lose aj hawk. I actually saw you guys talking about this. It does seem to make sense right like the line should win. Ninety five one hundred percent off pointing do we know. I wanna say florida's where the first half all four quarters for going to see. I thought i thought. I saw quarterback that'd be wrong fox. It was a quarter. I f- i saw a couple of days. I wanna see goff. I'm excited to watch today. The lions offense play. I'll tell you what i'm excited to. This kind of stuff is smart blood. Boil man. hey what about game day. First time is the head coach for the lines. I guess you are an interim head coach for the dolphins but now that you've become the mascot for all of detroit. Was there a different order of coffee this morning with the first game on the horizon. Absolutely not marin safety big vanity need vanity and then again to to black is a neutral and the need to have it man ratio coach last game out. You watch anything last night to kind of get your head you know right into the right space or no no. I actually just went out back to my patio and slammed my head against the concrete walford sixteen hours reading football man columbus. I don't have any. i'd say. Hey i heard it. I thought i had a question. I do not. Let's get to the flavor and your phone lines. Good luck the lions tonight. All these are betting on the lions. We'd love bills mafia. But this game doesn't count all right. It only counts for one person one city one team and that is mci detroit. Lions preseason team in football own sixteen they want foreign out in the preseason man paul the ravens haven't lost in seventeen preseason games all the way back to twenty fifteen dumping there with an incredible. That was unbelievable. Is a little bumpy new great there. I think i saw that going around the internet. So knicks the same tweet than i prob- sorry believable. That's more impressive. Cal ripken street. Probably how do you win that. Many preseason games in a row. Do you think they have like you know how in baseball games. Count the amount of ks strikeout somewhere. Teething in baltimore. Have just like a like a What are those things called tally on. How many preseason game straight and do you think are point that last night. And said hey. Let's go get fucking seventeen. let's go get eighteen. You think he's that. Do you think he is absolutely. That's really impressive. I think actually. I don't know if it's it's just weird i can't i don't know how it happens. I'm sure you know there's a lot of players don't know what the score was at the end of the preseason game i could not tell you how many preseason games we won or lost. I can tell you how many times i did a front flip in slow motion on hbo though and that was once when the bengals run hard knocks. And i got a punt blocked. And what i'm saying. There's as the worst moment in preseason history for me and i made sure i didn't do that again. We're trying to get through there. But they must focus on the details more and everybody else because the details of what lose your preseason games because a lot of guys have no idea what coverage therein. The guys have no idea what special teams units there are. Eight are special teams guy. So you know he. He's a k all these other teams substitution airs. All that stuff that the giants had to run for practice like not having enough guys fuel goes read. That will not happen here. And that's gonna win us every one of these fucking preseason games now when it's an entirely different team we're playing. We have wearing our uniform on the football field regular season starts. We're gonna try to carry over this win streak but what we're saying is the details. We're all battered around one. Also don't forget they've they've had great. Backup tyrod bob. triple sticks. They draft ozzie. Newsome's great drafter trace mcsorley tries last jerry's famous super spreader events live. I still doing it. I haven't heard from all over art. Maybe detroit smith was their choice. Man flacco starter. Yeah it's got the five orange thirty two nothing by the time you come out of the first quarter. I understand in that continued last night for the eagles. joe flacco. he's what's his record in. Preseason twenty six may be right because he's scared that oh yeah one before last. He didn't start though so just like. Oh buddy got a win last night for the White sox yeah hendrix. Yeah he got a win whenever they gave up the lead but then got it back as it. Because he didn't give up the lead now. He gave up the latest because he was the last pitcher game and then they wanted the bottom of the ninth so he gets the win. The guy the closer who gave up four runs in the ninth yet. He gets the win because he blew he blew save and then is a blown save. He's still has the blunt say show. Yeah so he'll have seven blown saves on the year. I think he had six going into the night. Joe buck was pointing that out. As it seemed to be unraveling threat. Great commentating by the way. I don't know why nobody so. He has seven blends as but he gets. Yeah so the only pitcher to ever win in the middle of iowa and he potentially had the worst. Anybody can do an interview right about two innings before that tim curtain now with bomber anymore corn content by the way they didn't entire corn peace with that guy wearing a bow. Tie thing talking about how. There's some tough windsor blown down. Stocks the fourth of july but then old mother nature said let me blow some of them down so they had actually put up beams to hold all the corn up so that they could get that beautiful outfielder. We saw on tv last movie. I need a couple. Dere ogres to go out there through the fields and get rid of some of them tall tall stocks. I didn't like the fake. Hey really bad. There's a couple of ones on that like The pitchers What do you call it. The bowl bullpen. Yeah they had a fake. Hey there i was so mad faye fake. Hey yeah it was like basically just like posters in front of boxes no anyway from f. o. d. Now pull it up. There's more hit this game. we did too. I know. I feel like i didn't. They should have everybody should have known about was on every morning. Show talking about his apple pie hotdog tob. He was on that he was also on the morning. America's this morning to cbs this morning. Good morning america. Show the today show. What kelly ryan and kelly. I think yes guy yet. He was almost like hired by manfred. Maybe promote this and he's having that donkey sauce apple pie hotdog thing. That's basically the most marketing. I think he got. I don't know if i don't know how the mo come on and it's a terrible choice. Was mario batali. i don't know. Mlb knows going be smashed. They knew yeah. I would assume so how come it wasn't just like a four hour marketing. Press guy fieri post one time on his instagram. You know he's gonna make the whole thing famous so it's not like he needed to do that much. Should that make the whole famous. The whole thing all of iowa. Whole thing fame matt. Thank you guy. They should have been pressing hard and if they did have the fake. Hey look it up there find right now off easy pal. All document all the footage. Smart guys like you couldn't find people that are looking for the little intricacies that are really making this show met there in iowa. John deere's there. I don't know yeah. They all they had to do is take tractor another another round the track. Liza dreams thought about that a lot. Last night i was watching that corn blow in the wind and the fireworks going and baseball or getting hit the corn because rain mates comb aren't pace. That's all i was thinking. Last night was beautiful This is america coming together with america's pastime tweeted about how you hated the game and i watched from seventh-inning on everything changed. It was a dream like a dream game for them for fox. Yeah it was like a playoff atmosphere. You know in the middle of summer here. you know. it's not it's not. Everybody felt like it may be true especially there was the middle of iowa when that gangster from montana that changed town digs completely into what town digs has become does a three inning interview and really makes you feel this awesome. This is what i wanna watch. I'm not falling asleep at all. Okay mack jones potentially slicing and dicing. I'm over over there. But then whenever. I came back seventh-inning i was wrong. And i put out numerous up tweaks and that's what twitter is by the way you put out a tweet in the time that you're in that's why the algorithms kind of fucked up that they save it for later. It's like whoa. We're at a much different time. Now this is like a pawn stars thing okay seventh-inning he was awesome eighth inning. Amazing ninth inning spectacular. Somebody tweeted me and said that that ninth inning. We'll be better than fourth quarter in the nfl. This season. that person's a fucking idiot. It was awesome. That was maybe the best. I've ever seen baseball pretty sweet but then you are right. You know the innings. I don't know what's five through eight there. I mean we didn't have any offense but started out with a lot of homes. I mean eight homers in this game was like you know dream scenario. There's no way they could've anticipated it. Did as well as and did the guy that got the job. He does this whenever he's looking at the catcher in before that guy that was kimbrel. Kimberly ever listen awesome. It's like a cobra. Yeah is that what he's trying to do make fox was smart. Snuck in the juiced balls for for this canadian. Need them to corner. Sweat was making off. Tell you what you feel. So you say that kevin. Costner would just wasn't bring juice. It was terrible. It was the worst interview. I've ever heard my entire life inside cuffy's garrett cole interview before that might have been worse he just kevin costner berry joe buck so that was a little bit of free room but it was just the internet but he said a couple of things in there good. I was like what three innings. I'm i went back and back and back here that it was just like i get it field of dreams. He walked through there he did. Great speeches is very motivating. He gave credit to the writers. And everything like that obviously. He's a great thespian okay. I'm a big big fan of kevin costner. The gangster montana. The baseball guy. Bull durham golfer intent. Up on the big waterworld. The i haven't seen that. But i'm a fan all right. I just didn't think you know three innings. He was killer with ashton garnish. Your bra mr brooks dane cook. Yeah that understood. I've watched that movie like ten times because it was the only one that was on this one plane. We flew every single season so as weird. I mean what. What a wildlife there. He's got range okay. He can be drunk picture. It can be a drunk golfer can be better. He can be a goddamn murder okay. I can't kevin costner. Incredible thespian out there but we innings is the equivalent of five house. And that's what it felt like. Whenever he was in there. And i just think they can set him up for failure but aside from that a little bit of a snooze out there but i think ended perfectly again. An electric finish started. Well it's to one five orangey phone line. Call here before i have to bounce out and hit the road tulsa go to five hour. Angie dot com. That's the number five than our energy dot com. Use promo code mcafee and you'll receive ten percents off your order. Aj officials summer flavors out now. The original yeah. End the official. Yeah the only valid. Through september thirtieth. Oh no get there. Get your shots. The official energy shot of the patent maxi show and the title sponsor for the electric phone. Lines that we will head to right now. Zac in arizona. What's going on pal. Pat and the boys was fucking go. It's okay i I like to shout out my dad. only only colts fan here out here in arizona that i know But his evan foxy in the house man. They are so quick question for you You turn your back on the pack Last season you fan base even watch you in the line of question. He said he turned her back on. The pride right is what the pack by the pack of lions. You did turn your back and became a steelers fan all right. Everything's fine lines fan. You know you got about six or seven weeks of football and that's it and that's why i'm so juice for this preseason game tonight. So when the lions out of playoff contention and can't go ten and seven and win a playoff game. Sometimes i gotta look around. And i got to say. Hey how do. I extend this football season and sometimes you don't see a team that's undefeated and rowena by the way the lions fans appreciated foxy because fox is the only lions fan. That has a microphone. I don't think jalen jalen but he talks basketball sleep. I'm not sure he's really fox. Is the only lions fan. That is outside of detroit. That spirit into a microphone. Bob richie does a lot okay. Oh yeah huge lions fan foxy and. Bob lives in asheville to one in the same for into shirts i just wanted to be. I don't want you to you know. Lead people on fox kiss amazing. By the way your brain can chase. That'smooth what do you mean. But i'm just talking about from a sports standpoint so i think they appreciate foxy and this is a whole new lines by the way you guys got new. Mascot guys are often Before we get to a break. I'd be remiss if i didn't talk about the coolest billionaire walk in this planet okay. There's a lot of stories told told about a lot of billionaires and not enough of them are good in told about jimmer. Say jim mercy. Owner of the indianapolis colts is obviously had a hell of a life. It has been documented. His friends was rockstars. He has gone through stages of his life. I think that he does not necessarily look back upon and be like. Hey those were good decisions but what he is become where he is at in the human that i got to know behind the scenes whenever i was playing for the colts. This guy deserves a lot. More fucking credit and respect in the billionaire. Who's cool conversation all these other billionaires trying to get the space. Let me tell you what jim irsays doing. He's buying guitars pianos hosting parties building ice skating arenas for his grandkids donating to every foundation rotting in the back of drop tops. Twenty eight on them. Alongside edgerrin james as he goes into the hall of fame in cutting a promo for him and saying something cooler than any other billionaire has ever said to one of their players or humans. They've ever worked with one here Ferrario lambruschini giddy cash. You bigger down is getting all of the car. You've got side but rolls royce or bentley elaborate eighty but he's going to be rolled style that i mean the glove compartment is surprised he was just he was just bullshit with edge as he's rolling through there and the colts probably just had that camera on at all times. Okay we'll just catch whatever's good and then edge goes whether you didn't get this on okay. This really awesome. Jim immediately goes into promo just starts. Cutting a promo into the camera fucking awesome. I o badge gets a rolls royce. By the way. I think that is. I didn't know that. I assume edged didn't know that that was on the table and bill. Jim said they rose royce andromeda right decision. Jimmer said just deserves a little bit more. Hey that's a cool fucking guy. You know what i mean. I mean absolutely and other owners are probably come on man. You're killing me now. If we hall of famers they expect a loaded winnebago from well. Florida's won't even give calvin johnson money back. So he's got the twenty eight hours detroit lion service and you'll be able to get that money back even though you're all famer and you're representing detroit in the hall of fame which. I don't know how often that's going to happen. You give us twenty eight good is work fucking. Give you your money back. It's very nice and detroit. That's good for. Hey jimmer say gave angela. Twenty five million dollars whenever he retires eight days before the season started. Just keep it jim. Mercy gave me six-figure bonus For something that. I did not necessarily complete. I got voted into the pro bowl. Didn't play in the pro bowl. I guess playing in the pro bowl is part of it because of the spectacle the nfl that so he didn't ask him me bus brother here just gave me even more. I think i mean he is. He's the man he's awesome and not enough good things about him. I'm happy we can continue to do so. Hopefully the colts social media will continue. Spotlight them all right. That's the show. Can't thank you guys enough for watching listening interacting with us on twitter all that kind of stuff. There's a lot of shit out there that you could listen to and we appreciate the you decide to spend time with us. Checkout smack down tonight at eight o'clock have a great weekend. We'll see on monday. Cheers

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Podcast Pegasus: The Time Travel Disclosure Series with Real-Life Time Traveler Andrew D. Basiago Part Three

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Podcast Pegasus: The Time Travel Disclosure Series with Real-Life Time Traveler Andrew D. Basiago Part Three

"Hey everybody greg bornstein here. Consciousness disruptor curator of experience and of course cultural him the test. Yes i am achieve looper. And if you're just joining us lemme loop you into what's happened so far. This is a special miniseries within the podcast open loops with gregg bornstein conversations. That band called. Podcast pegasus the us. Time travel disclosure series. The primary focus has been angel de chicago who is a lawyer professor in seattle washington who has claims very credible i. I've done a lot of research. Very credible claims that he was part of the. Us teleportation in time travel secret projects in the mid twentieth century. Sounds outrageous right. Well if you've listened to part one and part two so far it's hard to dismiss a lot of what he's saying in the sense that well you listen to him and you tell me that he's making it up fascinating stuff so far. Definitely check out the first who episodes if you haven't but in this episode part three through the looking glass i throw andy a bunch of questions about other time travel conspiracy theories the philadelphia experiment the montauk project even the classic internet meme. John tied her the man from the future. We also discussed some other big names in the time travel claims and speculation community including elon. Musk ronald mallett. And well i get the start this episode. This episode starts with me asking andrew deepest chicago that age old question. Are you out of your are. You crazy is is that where your head's at. I ask it in a much nicer way but for those of you listening that are thinking that. Don't i check in till you listen. It gets interesting very much. Appreciated andy's honesty his philosophical perspective. On all these matters get ready to go through the looking glass. It's an all-new open loops with greg. Bourne stain conversations. That dan dan. How often has that happened to you. How many people have said okay. You are there. There is a there's a schizophrenic or there's a psychotic break or in your life. how often have you encountered that and what. How does that go usually well. Basically now bear in mind. All of the time travel activity and the mars activity was involved in was actively hidden from my mother and four older siblings. Now my mother passed away in two thousand three. I had been her full time caregiver. From the time she developed cancer in two thousand seven and had been just staying with her to keep her company for a few years before then. After i got back from cambridge so my my legal curve was kind of stagnating at that point but i i love my mother as much as life itself and therefore it was a joy to prevent her from going to a hospice or convalescent home especially after she developed cancer and i so i was full time caregiver for six years now during those years that gave me the time to write to investigate and write down my experiences in project pegasus for the most part because i would remain amnesic about project mars until two thousand nine okay and so when my mom was passing away from my two thousand to two thousand and three my four older siblings quite quite naturally and understandably and i certainly forgive them for this. They thought i was just Suffering from a delusional disorder based on the stress. I had been under taking care. My mom i mean we were no longer kids. I mean i was forty two when my mom passed and You know. I had known her for forty two years. It was very difficult. Yeah i miss. I miss her. I still love my mom. And i miss her and and my dad but that was the only time when anybody came to me and said look. You need to get your head examined by head. Doctor and i did. I got examined by a A psychiatrist kaiser permanente and he just sat down with me and his office. And he pulled some paper out of his blotter. Said so tell me about this transportation project. you're on. And i said well doctor. You've asked that kind kinda sarcastically. As if i'm delusional it's to. I'm not delusional. I am experiencing some stress because natural and understandably to the extent that the secret government activities. I was involved in by my father. Were hidden from my five. Other family members are meted family members. And most everybody else's well yeah. It's hard for them to believe that. I'm not just making up a strange story. But that's not what was happening. I was going back and writing down story just like my dad had asked me for before he died in nineteen ninety ten years earlier. You see so in answer to your question that did happen but then began to do radio and my siblings began to listen to the coherence and finally understand how the time travel activities and the mars activities involved in were masked from then they kind of got it. They thought we get it. And he's been telling the truth all along the things he was involved in with by dad or hidden from us. And that's why it seems so strange. When you start talking about this stuff so again we have to. We have to become student. So the piss g the study of the theory of knowledge. Yes just because somebody hasn't told you something or not even remember. It doesn't mean it didn't happen to them that's another fallacy. That if you didn't tell me back then or didn't remember back then there for what you're saying now is not true. I haven't had a friend who i've known since the seventh grade cents at that and i said I don't wanna say his name. But i said my friend I in fact told about my teleportation activities to mrs marks seventh grade honors english class at lawrence junior high school and you were sitting on the right side of the room. Three desks back. And when i revealed that. I've been teleporting back and forth across the country in this five minute talk. I had to give him that honors english class. You pulled your hair and tilted forward in your seat. This was a friend of mine is a professional writer. Who said i've known you since the seventh grade. You never talked about this stuff back. Then in fact. I said it right to his face and the face of the other thirty or so kids in my honors english class in the seventh grade. It learns junior high school in chatsworth california so one of the things we need to do is practice. what. I call objectified mindedness. You don't have to believe or not believe somebody just listened to what they're claiming and then try to find correlations and the one just offered about Carey cassidy and david wilcock talking about project. Camelot that directly corroborates my statement. That carl jack pruitt. Lieutenant united states navy byrne born nineteen thirty. Four father of the late glenn pruitt and two other children Was when he was training us for the said. But if we stand out here outside the hologram this will serve as a looking glass the past or future okay. So these are correlations sort of occurred throughout the truth movement. And there's been almost no attempt to engage in correlation. Yeah we'll have to do another interview to go into the mars stuff because it's a whole nother thing and i really want to zone in on time. Travel specifically yeah. I don't know if you'd be open to that. i would. I would to zone in to keep it on about time travel. Let's talk about the philadelphia experiment and montauk because those are the other ones that i think are. I mean you know. We've talked a little bit before about preston nichols versus albie alec and and sort of You know whether how much a science fiction how much is real. And i was just actually reading through. I'm actually going to be interviewing. I wasn't able to last week Peter moon who wrote the montoc books with preston nichols and going to be asking him about a bunch of things related to it soon. But i was reading the the first of the books and my gosh. They talk about mars. I didn't even realize that. Mars was part of the equation. Dunkin cam red imagining this. There's a pyramid on mars and visualizing Space to be able to tell a poor between mars and obscene. They're going yeah. This is all really messy and confusing. Andy stories much. At least it's cleaner to understand. Look what was going on in montauk in your opinion. Well let's start with experiments in philadelphia too. I wanna know about that right. There's been i have the information clarify everything. You've you've asked these four questions at one. Let's start with a serious. Yeah greg let's start with a project With the philadelphia experiment. Rainbow project rainbows. How it was referred right. I it may have been. I don't know. But i do know from numerous statements that dr robert beckwith made to me in childhood when i was on project pegasus and interviews two interviews. I did with him when he was quite elderly. Like around got around the year. Two thousand six and seven and he would die in two thousand nine. he was also interviewed by alexander. Bruce and ken. Thomas and i write this up in my my my paper the real philadelphia experiment in the philadelphia experiment cover story something like the philadelphia experiment happened but everything was changed first of all. It wasn't radar. Invisibility of the eldridge. It was tesla teleportation of a ship called the martha's vineyard john van neumann nicola tesla or nor albert einstein or at the command of the Of the Of the of the ship. But j robert oppenheimer and edward teller. It didn't go back to norfolk virginia. When they powered down it went back to newport news. Virginia there weren't multiple sailors captured. In the whole of the ship. There was one sailor who was impaled on a column that supported the splash cowling of the ship And it didn't take place even in philadelphia naval shipyard. It took place in long island sound but it did take place either toward the end of tesla's life or after his death and it was into tesla teleportation but they realized that they couldn't test the teleport a huge hunk of metal namely shift and there was huge electrostatic discharge that was seen on the shore and by the other sailors and so forth. But there's only one tragic death of one of the sailors now. After the war they invented the philadelphia experiment cover story. That's come down through us. Through that. Carl allen carla carlos sunday Story i think. Mk jessop played a role in disseminating that and that was to link three things they didn't want no the connection between tesla teleportation and the los alamos physicists. Okay so when alec saw the philadelphia experiment the movie he imagined that he had jumped off the eldridge and become one of the cameron. Brothers thereby confusing. Teleportation and reincarnation. I interviewed relic. Albion was an interesting personality. A highly creative intellect. But i don't believe that. He was speaking about veritable experiences. He certainly wasn't on project. Pegasus and i was on it beginning in officially beginning in nineteen sixty nine and i'll be alec even remembered his experiences time traveling for the country fifteen years. He's also also told us the story of another car recovery of of his memory not watching the philadelphia experiment movie but going to a yard sale or something some flea market or something where there was memorabilia from the philadelphia experiment. Okay so now. Let's let's hold al right there. For now and talk about preston nichols and peter moon. preston nichols and peter moon. M- wrote their series of books about montauk and essentially started the montoc subculture with information that was provided by. Who by jack prove it and his son glenn. What was the thrust of that information or disinformation. If you will it was to depict the montauk chair which by the way we just called the chair when we were using in project fifteen years before project montauk was launched in nineteen eighty three. I was i putting them on talk chair like a nineteen seventy okay but it was just called the chair right. What it did was send you to a to a moment in your own. Subjective future so if you were destined to go to mars by air nautical repositioning chamber under howard hughes like i was then yes you would remember that but it was. There was no way to independently. Send you via montauk chair to the moon because it was not a teleport or sent you to moments in your own. Subjective future as lived now. Did all of the things i was sent to happen. No because they what they discovered. When i was on the project is that every moment in your life and every everything you do is a tripartite experience like i can continue to sit here in my chair and be interviewed by you. I can stand up and be interviewed by you. Or i can put the phone down and hang up and leave this interview right i can. I could have gone to. Ucla in nineteen eighty state at uc san diego or dropped out of school right. You can take the first girl you want to the prom the prom. The first alternate or another alternate or not. Go to prom right. Everything in life is a tripartite outcome. So what we're actually seeing was. Yes some some subjective moments in our own futures but also things in our future. That didn't happen. Because in that tripartite selection of outcomes we just didn't lead to that destiny you follow. Yes the chair in. Other words was mapping future events. That would happen and future events that could have happened but didn't because of trip tripartite decision making in the complexity of the evan flow of time. It's time space itself. Okay so you can literally be working at a company and one day make a left turn in a certain hallway and meet your wife or if you make a right turn in that hallway not meet your wife and then maybe she can be moved to another department and you never meet her. That's life is in other words. It's always a tripartite outcome You know you if you you know. I recently asked My professor at cambridge to see if he could I'm granted a phd honoris causa. He either could have answered my letter and said yes. Andy i will work on this for you or answer me with an a nice hello and nice turndown or not. Answer my letter. And that's what happened okay. So that means. We can't be afraid to try things because there always is going to be a tripartite outcome. Whatever it is. It's like you try to get into the olympics. You win olympic gold or you get into the olympics and don't win olympic gold the michelle kwan. Experience okay so that's what the montauk chair was doing. It was showing us things that would happen and things that could have happened but somewhere along the way one of the other two possibilities is what emerged now when they were given the information by Carl pruitt jack. Pruitt i think that preston nichols and peter. Moon did a very important job just like abducted elected with his his work. Which is they shared ideas about time travel. They sort of sensitize the public to the discourse and just like science fiction which their works were not that they were science fact but they were incomplete science fact they were you know. And then when lbl tried to synthesize the philadelphia experiment and the montoc experiment with project mars. He was really just trying to agglomerate. All of the non ordinary quantum access type activities that that the government had been involved in which i've now tried to clarify. Does that make any sense. Yeah yeah no. It's a lot of stuff i mean. It's just a lot of stuff to sort through like figuring out. you know who is how they even. I mean look. I've talked to several people now in my search to speak with people who might be time travelers. That are like yeah. I've been a montoc chair before. And i'm going wait a minute. That's different than what andy said them on share was so what were you in if you were maybe they. Maybe they just called it that okay. Let's go with this question. Do you think if somebody says like yeah. I was in a montage chair when i was young. Were they in some time travel device. Is there any possibility that that could have been a thing. Yeah it was in it. And i was visiting subjective moments in my future. I gave them one time. The name and the physical appearance of one of my future. Sister-in-law's yeah. I was seeing people from the future and giving their names. And that's one of the reasons. Why project montauk was launched after quote unquote. The chair have been used in project. Pegasus for one reason. Your body stayed back in the chair. Yeah could not be injured. And the second reason. I think they turned it into fully-fledged so project pegasus and launch project. Montauk was it was extremely effective at getting very reliable information about the future like that. I remember these interviews one time I was in the montoc chair with ed. In in new mexico it was In a secret lab beneath the auxiliary basketball court at the los alamos public high school and he asked me what i was watching and what i was seeing was in two thousand and four i saw an appearance by senator john kerry in portland oregon the appeared with howard dean of vermont and He was running for president. And i said to Dame's that i was looking at a race for president by john f kerry. He turned to me and he he turned to me and said did you say john f. kennedy and i said no john kerry so in other words in sending us to moments in our subject to future. They were able to see emergent facts. That hadn't emerged yet and that's what they were taking down. They were using the montauk chair to get information about what the future held in a montauk chair reading that i did as a freshman at uc san diego in nineteen. Seventy nine eighty. I gave him the names of the of the president and the vice president in the future and they said what are their names. I said bill clinton and al gore and they said when. Andy are they going to be president vice president and i said during the two terms before the turn of the century and i was right right. Nineteen ninety three to two thousand one. Clinton-gore okay so After being elected ninety two. So that's how they were using the montoc chair they would send you forward in time and even if you got one of those other timeline that you weren't destined to walk on. Sometimes you still came up with the right information if my friend had said to me andy. Let's go down and see Let's see you know. John kerry's appearing down in downtown portland. Let's go down there and see him. Because we're not probably ever see somebody running for president again if i had said no eve i don't think i wanna go down there and see john kerry. I'm not a big fan of his. I vote for him. Because i'm a you know. I'm a lifelong democrat but I don't really need to see him right. If i had said that. If i had accessed that in the montauk chair. I still would have said a friend of mine in portland is asking me to go downtown to downtown portland to see john. Carey's talking when he's running for president and that would have given them the knowledge that john kerry of massachusetts would one day run for president. Even if i didn't see his speech you say so. That's how it was being used. Even when i was a kid on the project both in new jersey new mexico and then as a freshman at uc san diego in nineteen seventy nine eighty. So yes the. The montage chair was a rudimentary form of time travel. It was sort of quays physical because your body did go there but at the same time. Your body's your physical body stayed back in the chair in the laboratory. Wait a minute so you were. You were in california late seventies. Was this related when you went into the chair at that point. What was the reason. Was there a chair in california or was it related to the bars chairs. The chairs could be put wherever they were set up. That was a special Continuation of project. Pegasus that i was brought into when i was a freshman at uc san diego. Every tuesday. at about five o'clock in the morning. I would get up at moore college tonight. A hall third floor and i would walk over to fourth college which later became warren college. Yeah and And i would be placed in the montauk share and by then they were externalizing images in our brain in a screen in front of us so they were catching electrodes to our to our skulls and we were watching what we were seeing the future and mean they said who were those guys i said. Oh that's easy that's bill clinton and al gore. And they said who are they. And i said the president and vice president and said wendy and i said in the two terms before the turn of the century so i was literally looking at a picture of clinton-gore from my brain being projected on a screen in front of me from electrodes that were attached to my to my brain while i sat in the montoc chair. Yeah and if you you you said earlier that they had multiple or you said. The chair was recovered from an et craft if they had multiple chairs. Did they deconstruct the one that the originally found that just biltmore i wasn't told everything about the The providence and derivation of the devices. I was just told in the learning programme on galileo. The speed limit learning program that the chair that we were going to be placed in had been recovered from an extraterrestrial cramped right and it would have been the pilot's seat of the crap that he used to literally command the vehicle. As it was flying supersonic speed super luminol speeds through space. Yeah yeah because in the peter moon book and they're talking about discovering and and and wrapping different. I mean i don't even know. I've i've heard tesla coil thrown around the lot with time. Travel stuff wrapping coils around the chair. In discovery gets properties. You could sort of what you described. Except with duncan cameron. Especially who was a psychic projecting images in his mind and then it would manifest in front of him and stuff like that. I mean look at greg. In this era let me let me let me mentioned something very important and that is because i knew that project montauk had happened. 'cause i knew the chair existed and i had worked with jack pruitt as a team leader on project pegasus and nichols and moon had identified him as the research director project. Montauk what i decided to do. Regarding nichols and moon and alviela and other people attempting to tell the best possible story they could but telling a partial or incomplete or partially inaccurate story. Yeah often based on who their source was i decided to affirm that aspects of albion story was true because he made the connection between tesla los alamos less the tesla teleportation the los alamos physicists. Things and that nichols and moon were talking about a real activities. The us government because the chair existed in jack. Pruitt was a real guy that i had met when i was a kid and i had met as recently as two thousand three at the swing auditorium in In santa fe formerly in santa fe. They tore it down so anyway. What i wanted to mention was because i took that approach of not criticizing but valorising the contribution they made in other words giving credit where credit was due when i was then interviewed by jesse ventura on conspiracy theory. They all came forward as to stewart's word low. Just as just as david wilcock did when i appeared on Project mars on shadow operations with with project camelot. They came forward and said you. Gotta talk to this guy andy. Why because. I had correllated everything i did in pegasus and i had established that in fact project montauk was a later sub project of project pegasus and i gave the reasons why you see. So this is part of epistemology. We spend the rest of the century blaming people for things they never. Did you know like the. I remember when i was a kid. These kids at my grandma's house in some hill. Pennsylvania said the old lady down. The street had cut kids hair off of it made spaghetti with it. That's kind of what's going on. In our whole culture now are making up completely crazy stories and blaming entirely innocent people for those alleged acts. Okay so if we keep on doing that rather than correlating what others are bringing forward. We're never going to get to the truth. Okay and that's and i just wanted to mention this. Because that work in other words when i affirm that nichols and moon had a lot of truth about the montoc chair that jack pruitt had served in pegasus before it that albion had made the critical connection between tesla teleportation and then the los alamos physicists. physicists. Based at the los alamos national labs and sandia i they. They really appreciated that. Because i wasn't attacking them just presenting my story. Don't attack others. Just tell your story and then distinguish what alleged truth tellers have said with what they themselves have said bear in mind. I didn't knock down the claims of randy kramer. Based on my experiences of mars. I based knocked down. Randy kramer's Count of going to mars on his discrepant accounts. His claims that his wife was alternatively named deirdra. That's he told dr salad that his wife on mars was named deirdre but then four years later. He couldn't tell me the name of a single comrade on mars and then he told me Just this year that the name of his wife on mars was doris. Okay so i've knocked down some alleged truth tellers based on discrepancies in their accounts but not in the difference of my account with their account and again. That's one of the reasons why i I'm holding a candle That someday we will learn exactly what has happened to randy cramp her to excuse me to corey good things. I can't see where corey would Adopt the The platform he's adopted or he not an or that. That's my profound belief. I don't know. Because i didn't. I didn't walk in his moccasins right. I didn't None of us can really ultimately evaluate somebody else's experiences by comparing their alleged experiences to our experiences we could only compare claims to their claims and then try to and then try to determine whether the they've been telling the truth or not just making up a a work of science fiction So anyway i did that with the The montauk experiences and with albie alec and it worked l. Was i think deceased the year. Twenty eleven year that that was filmed but stewart's word low and preston nichols and peter moon pretty much gave me a good word and that allow jesse to get to the truth but i was telling the truth and the time travel program had existed but then at the end of the show again in violation of the same principles of epistemology the study of the theory of knowledge jesse ventura was either told to or felt personally compelled to make up the false claim that i had been a victim of mind control and i had never time travel because it didn't exist. Well how can you prove a negative. You can't know who took that approach. Because he wanted to discover. Time travel was ronald mallett on time travel and because he wants to be the first person to put people on mars ask both of them have never questioned me at length. And i've done hundreds of interviews. And i've been telling the truth so if you block somebody else's truth because you don't believe what they're talking about it's possible you basically prevent yourself of learning about evolving truth. Have you just you results. Ilan in Ron mallett yes. I i've done it in in dozens of interviews and conference proceedings I did appear on. i appeared on the huffington. Post live with ronald mallett and he was sitting there. Smirking literally was on camera. Smirking at me with the snarky expression like oh. I'm so sick of this guy. He's just making this stuff up. And i still want to discover time travel and go back and visit my dad. You know and actually said to brought them out. I said run. I know you want to discover time travel to go back and visit your late father. But i'm sorry it's already was developed by darpa. I'm not i'm now revealing. I'm blowing the whistle. I was in it and so. That's another dilemma. Or another shortcoming of epistemology in our culture. And that is i call me. I is if you won't believe somebody else's experience because you want to achieve it or experience at first you will never either experience it first or learn the truth. 'cause they experienced it before you and believe me my whole life. I've heard about things. I haven't done yet from others except travel. Thank just in your personal life where somebody told you about something like some ride an amusement park or something or some paranormal experience. Like seeing a ghost or something. Our whole lives are about hearing about something and then frequently hearing about it first and then experiencing doing it or achieving it. And i had for me to have had to deal with grownups. Who won't believe me because they want to achieve. I what i already did. Through the good graces of people like harold agnew and my father raymond and jack pruitt of parsons and stirling colgate of new mexico tech and edward teller and the other guys working on On project pegasus is really shameful. I shouldn't have to not be believed by some people just because they're being denied the opportunity to achieve at first. That's not american. you know george. Washington will always be our first president under the under the constitution right. Yeah but it was. What jon hansen. Who was actually the first president right but we will always remember washington the first president under the constitution. None of us can ever be the first press the united states so i just want everybody to grow up and stopped getting on my case for telling the truth. Yeah ronald mallett will never discover time travel. Because it's already been discovered an eland must will never be the first individual. Send people to mars. Because we've been going there since nineteen sixty four. What about mario barnes. Well marshall is a great expert on the philadelphia experiment cover story and this is part of the unenviable position i've been put in. I would never attack somebody like marshall barnes because he's a very d- right diligent individual who has learned everything he can about the quote unquote philadelphia experiment. Rather than the long island sound experiment by which they were scripting the philadelphia experiment cover story. Okay in the same way that let's say janet and sasha lesson became experts on the claims of zachariah situation which were science fiction. So that's that's part of the dilemma. That we're living in. Is that the truth movement or exo politics. Ufology is also people by very intelligent very diligent. Researchers like those three that. I just mentioned marshall barnes and lessons who become experts on a cover story. That's being advanced to hide the true and so people get taken advantage of and then they get invested in those explanations and i'm just it has to end. Yeah and we're only going to end it through through brotherhood and sisterhood. Where we come together and we say okay. This is not about any one person. It's about all of us in what our common culture has done. Let's figure it out. Sure everybody has a story but some of those stories are made up so we have to identify which ones have been made up. move on. Remember that guy who admitted that he'd made up the apex. Time travel Body of work. Oh who is all those apec he did. I don't remember his name. He did all those apec ally stories. I don't. I don't know i didn't. There's what i've never talked to you about john tighter. Do you know that whole Saga the guy from twenty had to answer. I had to answer questions when forward as an actual experience of time travel. I had to answer questions. I was asked to my face. By george noory when i first appeared on coast on november eleventh. Two thousand nine. I have to ask you. Are you john tighter. I i wish. I had said i said no. I am not I'm andy go from morris plains new jersey you know yeah okay hello america. You know. i'm your native son you know. I shouldn't have to be asked whether i'm john tighter anymore. Than abraham lincoln had to ask whether he was george washington. You know what i mean. We cannot let legends about the past color the our understanding of the present but no john tighter story was made up his his lawyer. Brother admitted it and And then with the apex stories that guy who scripted. All of those came forward admitted. All of his stories were made up. And so you know my my You know my response to those saying that everybody has a story go. We'll there's your example sure experiences have stories and people who make stuff up have stories so it's not really a matter of everybody having a story. It's a matter of finding which stories our experiences and which are fiction. Yeah i mean. Have you looked at the john. Tighter patterns and all that technology about two magnetic housing units from looking at it right out for dual micro singularities in an electronic jackson manifold. Like there's a whole patent for this develops. I looked at it. And it was not tesla. Teleport or that i was using to travel in bordeaux tunnels through time space beginning nineteen sixty eight. Yeah i knew it wasn't the device. I knew it wasn't a it wasn't any device i had had contact with and it made no sense because you can't you can't physically move through a medium like that without being cellular destroyed. That's why the kind of teleportation on star trek could not be the form that emerged it. It it's not the form that emerged. You would have been killed by that. Yeah you had to go through a tunnel and time space not be disintegrated and reintegrated the destination right behind. Beep beep beep be disintegrated at the point of embarkation. I've been saying and then reintegrated update at the destination. That's just not physically possible. Yeah he you know what. I'm always curious about you. Inda the future. Because that's another thing you've talked about and it certainly was when when you were running for president you you went to the future. I mean what device was that. When was when was that future trip. Is there anything you can tell us about what it's gonna look like. Don't you wanna know what's going to happen in the future. There's a reason this podcast. It's called open loops because you're going to have to listen to the next episode. The find out final episode of andrew. Deepish ago coming up tomorrow on. podcast pegasus. We're we're going. We don't need roads but that's mostly because we have an infrastructure problem in america and no one's driving anyway if they did they don't want to go on those roads terribly broken. We'll talk to you tomorrow. I'm greg bourne take care.

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Life, Liberty, and Drugs

The Experiment

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Life, Liberty, and Drugs

"I'm julie longoria. This is the experiment and this week. We're handing it over to producer. Alvin mallett. I want to introduce you to dr carl hart. So maybe we'll just start by you telling me Who you are. I'm carl hart a professor at columbia university. I am also research scientists at the new york state psychiatric institute carl's Neuroscientist he's recently become really interested in one of our founding. Documents is really important for us to think about the declaration of independence. Because i was ignorant like most americans and i hadn't read it as an adult and so when you read it as an adult you realize this is profound. This is the original promise to american citizens. This is what it needs to be an american. Carl is a big fan of the declaration of independence. and he's been on a crusade to get other people to read it to. I feel like whenever. I have these conversation. Particularly when i vote the declaration of independence. People say yeah. Yeah yeah as if they know. What's in the declaration. When in fact i know they don't because there's no reason for you to read it because nobody requires you to read it and the reason he wants to be able to read it is that he thinks. There's this one. Big part of american life where the arnold allowing people to do the basic stuff that the document declares to exercise the rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It means that you have to write lived your life like you see fit as long as you don't prevent others from doing the same and in the third sentence it says government should be created to securities rights not restricted. That's profound to be because we are doing precisely the opposite when it comes to drugs and nobody seems to give a shit. The story we tell ourselves about drugs in our country is often really simple. Drugs are dangerous and so are the people who use them. Just say no dr. carl hart spent his career doing research that supported that story until you learned. It's just not that. I'm julie longoria. This is the experiment. A show about our unfinished country. Carl grew up in miami in the seventies and eighties grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood. Would some would deem resource poor and he got a very clear message about drugs. People talked about drugs in a very same way as they talk about drugs. Now drugs are bad on do drugs. Drugs are the source of are suffering drugs. 'cause addiction drugs are the reason that people die prematurely plenty of people in his neighborhood drinker smoke cigarettes or we'd but there were drugs that seemed out of bounce wants people warned them about drugs like crack and heroin. It was nothing to see a public service announcement with someone like peewee. Herman this is crack. Rocco peewee. Herman would be talking to kids saying something about. Everybody wants to be cool. Hey you wanna be cool like me I don't do crack because doing crack is like putting a loaded gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger and that state in my mind for a long time. Some of my assumptions were that a drug like crack. Cocaine was so addictive one hit is all that was required for the user to become addicted. Everyone who smoked crack cocaine eventually became addicted and then about the people who use drugs. I thought they were horrible people. I thought that they were irresponsible. People i thought that they could only focus on getting another hit if their drug. It would take me a good fifteen years to start questioning the story that i was telling myself. Is it fair to say you were scared of drugs. Yeah it's fair to say that. I was absolutely scared of drugs. I believe those messages so much so i decided to study drugs And try and figure out how. I could help people who were addicted in the nineties. Carl studied science. He eventually went to get a masters and a phd in neuroscience and psychology that was deemed the decade of the brain. He wanted to find out how drugs affected the. I would look at these brain cells in this region called the nucleus the comments he look specifically at dopamine cells which he thought might be responsible for drug addiction and so i was under the illusion. That could manipulate these cells in the right way. Then i could stop people's desire so that the person would no longer want cocaine. One of the ways he studied this was he would bring people into a lab and give them drugs like cocaine methamphetamine like marijuana and then he'd watch what would happen. The on their blood pressure on their heart rate on their social interactions monitored the effects on their brains in the lab. He started learning some things. That didn't quite line it with those messages. He got a kid at learned early on that the body does not distinguish between hard and soft drugs. That's a soda human Phenomenon although heroin with all its unpleasant But the likelihood of somebody from heroin withdrawal is low compared to the likelihood of someone dying from alcohol. Withdrawal i'm curious about this because i've been sort of led to believe on my life that say heroin is incredibly dangerous drug. That is like an order of magnitude different than marijuana is. It is what you're saying that the science doesn't say that yeah What i'm saying is that it's not useful to say that hera would is a killer drug whereas marijuana is not so harmful. That's not useful because we can think of the situations where marijuana is more dangerous than heroin. That's just think of somebody who is susceptible to. I don't know being anxious and paranoid. You give that person a does of marijuana and you trigger paranoia. You can trigger anxiety panic attack. A similar dose of something like heroin wouldn't do that sort of thing it all depends on what affects you are looking at when you think about trying to determine oh this drug is far more. Dangerous than that drug opioids do kill tens of thousands of people year. But what carla's finding his research was that ideas about the harmfulness of drugs aren't necessarily related to the science. Take our ideas about addiction. We generally think of hard drugs as more addictive than so called soft drugs. But that's not necessarily true. For example in united states about fifteen percent of the people who drink alcohol become dependent on it which is the same rate as cocaine about a third of people who tried to back. Oh become dependent which is actually higher rate than for people who try heroin. All of these pieces of evidence conflicted. With what i thought even so by the late nineties. Carl was firmly in the mainstream when it came ideas about drugs. He finished his graduate program and got a really persis- job as a researcher. At columbia university. He sat on important committees given multi-million dollar research grants by the national institute on drug abuse. I continued to believe that most of the people tough these drugs were addicted that drug users were some of the most irresponsible people in our society. I believe all of this misinformation for a long time. When he did start questioning story he went back into the history. He wanted to know where these ideas came from the idea that heroin is so much more dangerous than marijuana. For example that idea has its roots back. In the early twentieth century the early nineteen hundreds opioid drugs were associated with chinese americans who had come over to help build the railroads the civil war and they brought with them their practice of smoking opium. There were some people in our society who were upset that these chinese folks had opened up these opium dens because women would frequent these places and these places were doing well financially and one way to Ensure that they didn't do as well is that you make up these wild stories about the effects of opium. You say things like the chinese are corrupting our good white women and so therefore we need to pass legislation to curtail the number of opium dens. We need to pass legislation that forbid the mixing of the races in these establishments. That's one of the reasons that you believe. What you believe about heroin and other opioids and we can consistently and continuously where the bad behavior of some group that we don't like a drug and then we can vilified that group Without actually saying it. And we're we're saying we're vilifying the drug but really we're vilifying that group carl says a similar thing happens cocaine. There was a time when it was legal. In america it was even an ingredient in the original formula for coca cola but then a story was told in the media that black people use cocaine and it made them violent. For example there were reports that black men were raping white women that having taken cocaine there were reports that men once they have taken cocaine. They could not be stopped by thirty two caliber bullets. And so this floor. Some police forces to move away from the thirty. Two caliber weapon to a larger caliber. Weapon that thirty eight and some cases and it also force congress to pass for the first time national legislation that would ban drugs and this legislation is known as the harrison act of nineteen fourteen. Which in effect banned opioids and cocaine. This pattern still repeats itself today. We still associate supposedly bad drugs with people at the margins. Let's think about Ketamine versus pcp chemically. These drugs are nearly identical. People take ketamine in search of some higher spiritual plane. Pcp on the hand is associated with cop story stories that indicate if you take. Pcp user will develop superhuman strength. And it will take from these I don't know forty eight bullets to kill the person. Another sort of a example of this and this is related to class not race methamphetamine data raw are essentially the same drug but we think about the narrative surrounding methamphetamine. We think Poor white people who are having problems because this drug is so dangerous and so evil. It's turned these people into social. Degenerates whereas adderall us Expected among our high achieving people in our society the point is that the narratives that have developed around these drugs the differential narrative. It's just not just not justified. What you're saying that. A lot of the differences chemically these drugs are someone negligible. I'm trying to figure out like aren't there other people like you in research laboratories looking at the chemical makeup of these drugs. Yeah there is a ton of data that's been generated in laboratories like ours at columbia and the researchers themselves. They all know privately whether they say anything publicly. That's a whole different story. Another sort of key reason that researchers may not say anything is because there are researchers who genuinely believe that. It's better to err on the side of caution that is it's better to frighten the public about drugs. And that way you really decrease the likelihood of anyone using these drugs because these drugs do carry some risk. Why are we so afraid. What are we actually afraid of. We are afraid of the unknown is so much easier just to say no then to inform yourself as a parent. You don't have to learn anything about marijuana cocaine or anything. All you have to do which your children as part of their drug education is to say no just say no you can remain ignorant about drugs and you will have been considered a good parent the problem with this fear. Carl says it's not just that we're not being honest about the real risks of drug use. It's at exaggerating. The danger of drugs leads to harmful policies. Those policies are repressive and draconian and they bolster. Our drug war are drug. War is one of the most effective jobs programs that we have in the country. It's an effective way to hire more cops when you can justify about saying we're going to get these drugs off the streets. The prison industry benefits companies that do urine testing they benefit because we test people your and as opposed to looking at their behavior politicians benefit. They can simply say to their constituents. We're going to put more cops on the streets and get drugs out of your community. That's so easy to do. Never mind that you're not dealing with the real problems that people face like unemployment poor education lack of healthcare. You don't have to deal with any of that stuff all you have to say is i'm gonna put more cops on the streets. Everyone benefits is that. Does that help explain. Like is there something about america specifically that you think lends itself to this paranoia this fear. Yeah there's something about america that lends itself to drug paranoia. Unless just think about. George floyd who was killed this past summer and we all saw it on video their job and put his knee on. George floyd's neck. We all saw it. But the defense is that george floyd had sentinel in this system. George floyd had Methamphetamine in his system he had marijuana in his system. Those are the causal agents for his debt. And so that's one of the reasons that we have been less willing to look at the drug situation. Wit clear is because it provides a love. Beliefs scapegoat and it provides an excuse for our racism. Psa call wrote a book came out last year called drug use for grownups and in it. He argues essentially that the story we tell ourselves about drugs and drug users simply isn't true. The lie causes harm and so we need to have an honest nuance conversation. And he thought we could start by being honest about who uses drives. The typical drug user is a middle class white american. I want the public to grapple with that fact. That's why i'm asking people to come out of the closet so we could change. The view of what a drug user really is carl drug users to come out to show themselves and he started with himself viral storing last few days about a columbia professor. Who says he uses heroin and other drugs to maintain a healthy work life balance. The psychology professors saying that he enjoys snorting heroin by the fireplace to relax. Czar what did this guy say after the break carl finds out just how hard it is to have an honest conversation in america. The experiment is supported by better. Help online therapy because life can be hard better. Help wants to make access to therapy easier. Whether you're feeling anxious or depressed need help. 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We need context to understand who we are and where we've been so each week talked to people and learn their stories stories that confront injustice and celebrate the human spirit because the black experience is the american experience and we can't tell the american story without black voices into america new episodes every thursday. Listen now wherever you get your podcast. In the moment breakfast gusting this is hair call hearts book features a lot of research about drugs his own and others but the media story about it became reduced to something else a spectacle about a columbia professor. Who does heroin. He's also regularly taken molly ecstasy and methamphetamine saying they helped manage the work life. Balance reaction from a lot of the country was fronting. Fan is very irresponsible. There is no safe way to do heroin. Cheer in america. When i was writing the book i understood that i had to share some personal details in order to make the reader care about my subject. Carl in book video done heroin. Not only that he'd done it. But as of the writing of the book he was entering his fifth year of being regular heroin user. And that brought all of this attention to this subject but you distort it and you make it become dishonest untrue for people to pay attention and it makes me sick. He wrote this book to try to make people rethink the way. We talk about drugs but instead he somehow became a symbol of the exact kind of false narrative us fighting. It didn't seem to matter that his argument was based on all the time he'd spent researching in the lab. The fact that. I've been doing this for thirty years nobody cares. They only care that some publication said that i shot up heroin everyday. A few publications took shots at pulling out the sensational quotes without any of the research. One made sure to mention. He's a father of free call. Says he's not addicted to any drugs. He functions in society. He does while at his job and anyway his ideal world is not some exotic drug free for all its regulation so my ideal world is that the government would step in and regulate heroin just like irregular rates alcohol just like it regulates tobacco in this way that actually leads into question about the opioid epidemic. Specifically you know in the last twenty years or so. I think the numbers are are roughly four hundred thousand people dying from overdoses that involve prescription or licit opiates. The beginning of that was relatively regularly system. People getting prescriptions in doctor's offices and i'm wondering in heavily regulated environment like that and we still have some of that addiction death. I'm wondering what you think about that. In terms of your overall argument the fact is people have died. Who got opioids from their doctors. That's a fact. The point here is that we cannot be so naive to think that life is not without risks. People die forty thousand. Americans died last year because of car accident. But isn't it true that everybody gets in a car all the time. That's like the scale of that should be different. Shouldn't it so we can think about a place like portugal where they decriminalized heroin and number of people who died from a heroin dramatically decreased. So i am suggesting that if we legally regulated get rid of the contaminants do a better job of education of course making sure that there's a requirement before you can purchase the substance. I'm suggesting that the number would actually dramatically. Drop one of the things in reading your book. That i don't know quite how to square is. Your book is premise. Is a conversation for grownups. People who are adults and who are ready to have this kind of conversation. And yet i mean i think you said it was somewhere between ten and thirty percent of people who are going to get addicted and you know there are kids undoubtedly gonna listen to this type of conversation. What in your mind as a responsible way to build a policy that acknowledges that not everyone is going to be in seventy percent who will maturely use drugs as instructed trying. It's like saying there are kids. Who are not ready for sex so we not have. Adults engage in this behavior. Should we now have this conversation. The thing that's important here is that if the vast majority of the people who are using a drug are not becoming addicted then those who become addicted it requires us to look on. The drug addiction has almost everything to do with the person. And what's going on in their life in their environment It has a lot to do with the society But it almost has nothing to do with the drug but it's too easy to say. Oh you're addicted to crack cocaine so we need to remove crack cocaine. That's not the that's not the move. We need to figure out why the person is addicted to crack cocaine and then help that. Specific person deal with their specific problems. That's fair i. I think the thing. I'm trying to think through is i think i see your point but i am wondering that if we don't fix the attendant problems in our society and we do make a change like the ones that you're suggesting for drugs if there aren't potentially bad ramification to that. I'm just wondering if you grappled with that. Of course i think about the risk benefit ratio of what i'm talking about. I think it would be far more beneficial for us to stop today arresting anybody for drugs. You would saw so much misery by just simply doing that. You don't even have to Legalize drugs or legally regulated. Just stop arresting americans drugs. The pluses outweigh the negatives in that case. It's interesting one of the reasons. I wanted to talk to you. Is that in a country. That's premise on sort of liberty and freedom there are actually all of these invisible third rails allowed to talk about in public. And i wanna talk to you. Because if as holder of i don't think i'm going out on a limb here to say an unpopular opinion. Do you feel like you've been getting a fair hearing. And what have you learned about the process of that. So i expect it not to get a fair hearing but it doesn't mean that it's not maddening when it actually happens in real time since writing the book i read the declaration of independence at least once a week because i'm having these conversations but before like really writing the book i i didn't think about the declaration of independence. I just thought. Oh it's some nice flowery words by some guys who had problems of their own and they weren't very good people and so. I counted dismissed it but we may dismiss those guys for whatever reason they were slave owners whatever reason but we can't dismiss the principles that are espoused in the document because they'd lead out what it means to be an american. They didn't say anything about displaying them. A flag or wearing a flag on your lapel jacket. Those were not considered patriotic. What's patriotic is protecting the rights of other citizens we are promised all of us and least three birthrights life liberty and pursuit of happiness. That means that we can live our life. Ever we choose including putting what we want in our bodies as long as we don't bother anyone else as long as we don't prevent other people from doing the same and so my ideal world is that we just simply live up to our go regional. Promise that's it. And that's what i want. I want americans to say we've been lied to and now the question is what do you do. This episode was produced by album. Melons and catherine wells. But helping me gabrielle. Bay special thanks to michelle sorocca fact. Check by william breton sound design by david herman engineering by alexander overton music by tasty morsels and nelson nance with additional music by joe lord. Our team also includes jalil ongoing. 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The Radio Show: You Haven't Seen Endgame?

The Radio Show

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The Radio Show: You Haven't Seen Endgame?

"Wait to listen to what they talk. Guy dopp john. Vano guests the real show to wave accident operatic. The plus sharing their puerto going in makers day. God no god healthy okay. They keep you want hun as we up to date with the latest with. What's going on prime time hours. You can never go wrong. What's our going today. came with the radio. Show thirty taking. Let them tell a phone rains. Yeah mona's thing anti hundred percent correct. Keaton was the keenum's the best bet. I'd hold on second batman eighty nine. That was tim burton. Kristen bell man dog nights eulogy man. What what are we doing. What was left. His fate waste christian bale. He was never believable. I always just psych ward a hill. Is he giving his voice box from that was his intimidating. You know take you out. Yes struck fear in the hearts of criminals. No it sound like he was hyped on testosterone. In a what is that ball powder. Look that's what it takes to fight criminals on the streets the goth okay. He sounds like he sounds like a morbidly obese guy on a treadmill that's what he sounded so for reference like hell many morbidly obese guys. Have you been me through conversations with attribute that is exactly how these down lake. Where were you like. You know how people say like remember way. Do you remember where you were. Were you conceptualized dishes. Slept obese may sound like on the treadmill where arial no i was watching christian bale rounds like fat gown trim utah. So we're really going to say that automatically. Don't make michael keaton. The best batman wins here. But there's never been a trilogy like nolan's batman true man. Where i'm i'm just saying batman was set in the real world. It was like a real crime drama except was a killer clown on the loose and one of them and a guy dressed as a bad but that those movies will essentially heat pay off l. I just think. Jack nicholson was still one of the most per jokers still he was calling clown. Fruits are will give him that. He led eclipse that. The nolan series while listen aid key clips they. I just think he was different. Because i think he did give a great performance. But if i'm gonna find the right head to watch a classic which i watched that particular movie like every day was a kid like all day never hated. It always was like watching it for the first time awesome. Even the penguin in there was great. Yeah of minya obama. Great i i was never a fan of the known. Series insisted upon itself leading. Tv brac sixteen spaces a mean right now may even have upon it. So we've been having this same argument for years or years on years because it's not that bad i will admit that is not bad it is i would not watch it again. I would not sit down and watch the nolan truly again. It was good for me watching understand like guy. does it have value for me. I would just set the nolan series that for people. I don't like all of oliver back to you saying that like we're just saying that it was like street fighter she she's me tv commercial. Yes so you like you know you wanna torture insurgents a foreign country or something if you wanna tie them up and make them watch the nolan. That's his fake voice. I would get all the information. We might have actually find out if there is life as a mass destruction. We don't think it was. I was divorced highly annoying. A he was the least believable for me. Why is that to me is the most believable. He's the best. Bruce wayne he he didn't give me bruce wayne. He just looked like christian. Bale in a suit pretending that was it. I kept seeing. I eat past slimy. British dude in the ditch. Cujo did you even believe he was reached though at all they even give you reach swag not he was trying not to all the way. Give it off. That's part of the you know he's trying to be like you know he had no slag at all in this movie. I mean michael. Keaton was the perfect balance of and wealthy wealthy. Don't have anything to prove that. F you up. I think it was the stuck story. Stone see where he was still in the in the he was short on words like he gave a strong presence. It was like when he spoke it. You know what i'm saying like it was. I felt like that. You know what i'm saying now. Are we sure that we're not watching these under rose coloured youthful glasses about obama and i'm not disembark accused because it's not about him us great as bad man. I'm just saying that the nolan series elevated batmans places that none of those movies took the character to this because it was rated r. Whatever it was it was more sense that was. It's like we've been funny. Nick mallett good. I would say we haven't seen mike melillo Especially following on the heels of neon green stuff like you think it was just a perfect storm perfectly timed if he if he came out now during the height of know superhero fans started it. That's the thing this reboot of. Batman started what you're seeing the origin stories. The building the oddest started that. How did end up to. Hey rainy time soon. Hey jerry course course deal. It was supposed to do for the for the community needed to do ouro so we'll talk about easy. I mean i know they're eighty nine was before your time but i know you've seen it and i know you know about the nolan series. So i i mean. I am not an expert on this topic by any means. I watched them all Didn't much thought. Yeah there's a lot of batman talk going on. And i really didn't pay attention to any of those batman movies like that disappearing formulated educated through to kind of like i mean he is pretty dry. Dry okay well. i'm. I'm not saying that man. I'm paying jobs. So when they have the best man slander. A post your comment on them voting and like see tac. He's tagging in them that you want to see some of the funniest shit on the internet. Let a group of people to start ragging batman and why he's not a superhero named the one that kills me is like batman. Thinks he's so much of a hero. My homeboy be selling grandma. We and then gives his arm broken today. I was going to share the picture. Wanda scarlet witch in batman and it was like who went in a fight batman and parentheses. Prep time and somebody at comment. Until i come on like. She got mentioned. He got a built in a car. Rookie comes back for him. A king a magic butler. Batman times is beating anybody. I see with completely hit us. Somebody had a picture of batman and kamla harrisburg which one would you rather Apprehend for snow. And i'm going to take batman. Because i feel put me in jail got broken arm. He'll in six weeks six months. Oh my goodness so only topic I guess we can keep in the beam move is. Does anybody have any movies. The block that they are excited to to to see. I wear new uncharted waters right now with our of being released direct to streaming So you know you don't get that movie theater experience which out all missile. We've we've talked about that Anybody on the movies. They looking focusing more combat. Sure yeah yeah great edge. I've seen the trailer learning it is it. has it piqued my interest. I'm definitely interested. I was not so much campus bad. I'm i'll be down domes. Line going to see you regardless. Yeah watch you no matter way. 'cause i want free which subscription you ain't got to go nowhere you gotta do is click. A button is right there so you not watching this pure laziness but the question that you asked if it breaks the mind real quick before we get into it. Is you brought up. We brought about movies in the movie theater experience. I wanted to ask everybody. You just sparked this question my head come on with black widow to the point where like people are going to stop caring about this movie at some point like do they need to go on and drop this on disney plus instead of trying to hold it out for the theater. Is that what they've been doing for the theme stuff. Yeah yeah they. The higher ups at marvel are like pushing back like yo. We wanna try to give the theater experience on this thing. We don't want to do the put it on disney plus names so it's been fight on. I mean this case in eight making the wrong decision. I don't feel like people. Don't wait for especially with the following. That marvel has they'll sit there and wait for it. It's kind of like Which i don't know if y'all we're looking forward to the game but like you know a cyberpunk that shit was supposed to come out ten years ago when people literally waited for for ten years until it came out so i mean not see what. What is the excitement first of all. I don't know the black widow was one of the ones that everybody was kinda clamoring for. Anyway i mean. There's van i i wanted to see where like i don't know the black widows going to be. That was ever that big of a draw. First of all have our own solo movie. Mcu when even when she did a lot of people. That can't wait for that then. I don't know people are necessarily hyped about her movie and more. Just about the continuation. Yeah like 'cause do you remember like at all during that. We talked about this before but until somebody help me notice that and they might have been uku. Did you even notice that. She wasn't in the final battle. She's one of the original of injuries and that big final battle like it just costs my mind away. Black widow wasn't there because spoiler alert. She was dead earlier in the movie. And it's like you didn't even notice about in in game big symbol. Oh me like what. wait. And i've seen him and i missed. I don't even know what was happening on. A thomas who thirty six thirty six so you mean to tell me spent the first twenty minutes of our show. Renton about batman movies going in depth talking about character development. All this other crap and y'all haven't said down for two and a half hours to watch in game yes but to be fair in the universe. I hit so okay. You're going from a movie that came out in nineteen eighty nine. When we're fair we young pupils. Okay atime all of the batman movies. Not all of them were made in nineteen eighty nine. What i'm saying is when you have a lot going on at sometimes you don't remember to watch some of these movies to kim. Aretha have slipped by me. I'm dumbfounded. I apologize first of all your personal basic as movie like this is some What was the name of that show. We talked about like this. John interim movie like we're talking about a engines aiming like what l. my daughter to check my daughter was being bombed Within the look caught on my second daughter was being born when avengers age ultra came out and yet that movie was still seeing. So what what what's going on here. There's a lot going on and it was just. I'm just which even even throughout the pretty disney plus like you have no excuse bigoted is now the trigger on whatever i mean they are gonna watch. Captain marvel students watch now. I'm not hurt by. Captain marvel but i want to finish the complete university. Okay you're the crown jewel of the tire series. That you've not okay. I'm trying to like easy. He i'm trying to first of all. I can't believe i'm apologizing. Because i like spoil from the movie from that you should have seen. He's been two years. It's not even to three came on one thousand nine hundred ninety nine thousand years. I mean to give you the benefit of the doubt. Nineteen i was. You might even go to disney. Disney probably know everything that's happened in the movie but you still need to watch this point. I read between the means. People talk about and stuff race. Let's in this deal we should talk about this housekeeping off line. You guys should come up with a list of movies for me in cujo to catch up on when we have time and then like we could find a lot like. I think that'd be mayor. We why did they. It ain't even about movies. Is this one. I need you to catch up on. I could care less about what else you haven't won that we mentioned it. There's a few other ones in the series that we might have missed. What would that is. Name is one that you don't game is the one that you just like. If you had any other in game i'll watch any game. If you haven't seen what led up to it literally sums up everything for you in the most epic fashion i want. I want to finish the. I'm gonna finish universe thousand top senior all all look like i was in dallas. And you'll see you'll grown me. Yeah i was in a catholic merica release day for the war or dark world faw to the one view all except i remain one in one of them when i was in opening day. But then you know. The lifestyle happened in Become less of a priority so well. Here's what i'm saying. You grown ass man. You're going to do what you gotta do anyway. But for god's sakes watch in game before you watch cattermole like golly don't don't watch. Captain marvel to watch that movie. And you don't want to see it again so just don't even go to in game. I'm i'm gonna go ahead. Whereas only reason i have not watched game because i didn't see ant man and wasp and captain marvel finds all man walks. And i didn't see tomorrow tomorrow now being i cannot like i mind refuses to believe what cujo has just said him. And and same thing with diva it you guys have not seen the nc you not one of them but because you sing infinity war right have you. Have you seen if any war. i don't remember. Oh gee watching the one within a soda. Okay no i have not slurred. She's way for benign there. Yeah yeah this this check. This changes a few things. I like venom a lot. More than i thought i was going to bend was actually really really entertaining. I liked it. I i. i'm my mind is still trying to wrap my head. Around the fact that final it feels to finally and that do universities in far from it though it's galley. Just just watch you watch. I know but it's not. Final is so because it closes a chapter of the book. No universe continues this stuff going on your phase foreign but as easy save is in such epic fashion. Okay i mean yeah. We need to be honest to be honest with in game. They really could've ended after the first five minutes but they said you know what we like you guys so much and a year waited a year and forty five minutes of epic minutes. You waited here. We're gonna rewards so i'm saying housekeeping on the air. We need to have a radio show at the movies segment very soon here where we review the hot new movie events in games we review it. We already know is is no no no. We know as good. You heard it was good. You need to watch that movie. Man bad marvel movies though well municipal little good as i'm just i am shocked. I mean i am shook over here. Like i like my train of thought just went away when i thought you were playing man cujo managed. What was the other one was. You're probably gonna do nothing. But i want to see anyway known as far from on that after i can on. Yeah well. i'm going to transition really quick. Because i saw a news article and a wanted to ask all of european because y'all are some gamers. The ps five came out eight nine. Take thank you for trying. Not to call us nerds. But i'm a gamer. I'm just going to put that some gain harder to other asylum game not game pretty gain pretty On monday i used to come up. Mania mania plan halo back in the day. So i teach gamer so i don't even call if i knew stuff. What do you think about discontinuing. Making the five just came so. Let me ask you this because this makes sense since. I'm not like an avid gamer. But i was there in line with an at the time fellow who we were waiting on the ps four. And so arm. eric. At the pierre slurs gate sony has always taken forever to come out with a game system and like we were speaking about late. People will wait years for this stuff to come out. How is it with all of the ninety all of the technology and all of the the intelligent people that they have that this game is so system is so horrible. they're gonna discontinuing shortly after. Bring it out. It's like samsung when a junk kitchen on fire like how is that even possible in today's day and age like how's it even acceptable. They're going to discontinue making them. I honestly had not heard that annette is taking me taking me back. That's pretty pretty crazy. Yeah 'cause they were having so many problems with it but not only that they're having the same issues with xbox came out so what's going on. It says that you give me a second to listen to like. Read up on on this real fast here. We're doing you see what happens when we started doing research on the air we should. We should start playing some old school music from alma guy. I don't i don't see this here. have you been internet. Just make up a word that you just you know. What website is. Don't gamer truth. Not the truth back. Did you get this game. Gamer madame mademoiselle lady house. But i ask that question because if that was the case man my time line would have been on fire. 'cause good god. It's tech radar. It just says off all black. Ps five orders have been canceled after team received. Yes says oh. It's literally the black list. Why one and then they were making a black one. I guess they not making the saying. What's different about. It is literally house races. It's just yeah. Yeah it's not racist that amounts not a we kept klay. Friday only start. The blackness looking sat way sony hayes. Hayes could be racist one. I'm still buying games where we can't get nowhere to people because you rang. People won't give up the playstations. A chink police. Dimmer business and not even the superior the superior system list. I want to sponsor a sony. Then you not. that's my question. Why is it is. It definitely is because i have somebody over the weekend. Tell me that they've been playing. Xbox they whole life and they decided to buy a ps five in that. They don't understand why they haven't been playing playstation sooner and sat down with like a playstation cursing. I've never been xbox person except for back in the day when we used to What do you call it like jailbreak on a you could play all the games matter what we do that in college any who's was not the only cool thing about a xbox that other i mean so i think hired there. I think each one has their pros and cons but they didn't they line up the specs in the xbox more powerful system or something like that i mean yeah the new xbox like i'm probably get it anyway because you can use it as an emulator play like old games on it and stuff like that so have to some people about both of them because look what a console war all apology. You said a question. And i to black widow because that crossed my mind but you were asking us about movies and just my bad man games now. Yeah both to answer. Questions sounds racist. It's only is now. Let me get it together. I'm like i don't understand. Like i would think just the inside are the same in the outside is just different colors. So why does one work in. Doesn't they're probably rushing it. These these generations systems were rushed anyway in my opinion once six months parts. I mean honestly russell something like you spent hasn't already year speedo. Ps four came out in two thousand ten. Yeah what's that the place. They was like thirteen now. You had a playstation four. Came out. When i was in college so like either twelve or thirteen closeness even when the grand theft auto come out doesn't soon the place thirteen then because grandpa came out and literally six months later. Grand theft. Fato any he s four version says pius for because they had so many remasters of that game. I'm also willing to put my put my stamp on this when we talk about gains. That photo five is the greatest video game ever created really as interest signing two to something to say about that sunny two eight five. I don't care what system you play on. I mean we could sit here and try to name off. But it's it's the greatest game ever created and it's still being played to this day and is is just a bit might the best later released stress in my personal opinion. Like you have a bad day. Just pull up on some people cracks in his sleep with a few cheek. You know be a drug dealer live in a mansion making the character a woman in the next and i don't care if they make it a man or woman dinosaur just make another one and i'm gonna play it a woman like it doesn't mean it's never been done before so it doesn't you can still run over pedestrians haphazardly. The nfl the interesting part. Students athletic leering medication. Imagine you playing kennedy bag blown out the beat him up and take his money so in case. You're watching for the first time miami Y- who's based in my in my. Yeah i was gonna say so. They could base wherever they have my money already. Just tell me winning. Where why do we have to keep. People play that game becoming allies you. This is i mean technically you know. They're not the real city. Because you know you gotta be a lot of money to use the actual cities so so san. Andreas will just have to do but correct. We know that that's basically calif- california. Is i mean. I don't know what you can put up against it to argue it. I mean i know there are others because you can talk about anything. Like the super mario series or anything like that but grand theft auto. Five is literally a game that you can replay over and over. Yeah you can do to missions. Davis says you can just have a day where you just. You know you might see a car and traffic that you just wanna get and go off and just you know. There's nothing that is nothing can top plan in his lane though keeps his own thing. You know kinda like. I don't know the games like crackdown got all about him. Dave crackdown man. Where you were kicking through buildings and shit. Yeah right. Saint claims rose probably thing to grant the bottle you got. What was that other one Sleeping dogs which. I haven't heard of the saints row is basically gta if you were like on molly ecstasy basically. It's like home these out there especially signed yes. It's a it's a real out there shit. it's fun it's sleeping. They were doing some kind of drug deserve a movie. Oh 'cause it was you basically. You're you're undercover cop so you basically got to play both sides of the fence you were cop but you could do all the criminals stuff that was in the game so i was part of you. Add to keep up your your in out. Every time they never go the game these the comeback they had it right. And i don't know what studio made. I'm have to look this up but whoever made true crime streets. La comeback. the and. I'm playing the game was great. I talked about mcdonald's last. We'd make sure you keep the spicy nugget. Jami to bring that game. I'll come up with a new version of it for new systems. That game was fun game. I got the appeal. I understand but it never appealed to me was a damn vendor. Are man you you start talking to guys like a little bit younger than you kucha. Let's fight you. They hear you say that mike. I got this get rappers and you just like give them arbitrary wrestling or fighting moves or whatever and it's like i mean we'll get to find you you talked about. You're talking about Def jam feifer new york. And all those yeah. I enjoyed that that for me. That was like pete gaming. You had a nfl street nba street because What other gang can you players fitness center and beat up method. Man you nine. Why would i need to be crazy. I was. I actually i remember. Nba street i. It made me wonder like why. Did he continue. This is because it's brilliant. It's like nba jam but on on like steroids. You're right but I know sixteen doesn't care but they're bringing back and i'm here for van us. Yes sir yes so we just go so. We just going to be on the internet just promoting slave labor. That's what we're gonna do anxiously absolutely it. You know you talking about details was. We're not discussing my wardrobe at this point here. Where where was that saints towel made. I mean i don't know it is a usa. It's ninety percent probably desolate compensating. Install a college basketball all failed. Your iphone was definitely definitely fit in that category. So yeah you chromebook to that so we so we can go full on heavy handed here right. Well you know remember. You gotta be equal opportunities as slavery. Yeah you oppose. Lay everything affiliated with it. Not just when the impact young black keys with the best ball in the i guess best place they all the men and women of all colors. Yeah this is the okay just took a turn. I wasn't expecting. I know somewhere. We can go man. I got a question for you here. Real quick because you know where we go to cujo. I'm sure you've got a snack. Look we got a follow up on. You had to pass this sandwich this weekend. Man we gotta talk about that. Yes yes yes so do. Let me go on to say I know. Sixteen my brother. But i really feel like cujo is one of our brothers as well or maybe me and him are just exactly like he's just a little bit older than me because that fish sandwich was not only excellent I don't know if some of you guys his in can make fish like the way that they made that fisher. Papa thank you. i'm just. I'm just i'm just putting it out there. If you got offended just now maybe i was talking about your mother your not. I'm just saying i'm not just saying just saying I don't know if anybody else makes it. Fish sandwich I know we talked about bojangles off off the air But if other fast food restaurants don't even try. this is not a new craze. This is not a neutron popeye's have this because they've wanted it's over don't know war. There's no there's no trends starting popeye's clearly have the advantage here. Let them do it. Chick-fil-a if y'all got one no one or try to bring out there. Y'all can try but stop is has it season perfectly. The it's just an atari saw the pickles the brioche months it's great my own. There's like brioche buns. I just cannot emphasize enough. How great they but like yeah. They just enhance everything. They are I mean it's part of a sandwich. A sandwich enhancer. I don't know how else to put it. Jack job will whoever's on y'all brought in the lab to make that job well done excellent I will be there every friday during lent for that sandwich specifically Y'all can get rid of the shrimp and the other crap on the menu. Yoga as you're driving. I tried guideline in or out of fish analysis. Like how black you but thank you. Sir that's screams popeye's puzzle the only sandwich that runs out of the main item to mcdonalds and saying we burger patties by. You'll never hear that never happened. Except papa's landau in time and we went to popeye's out of chicken so whoever you do who is your in your manager should be fired. Doesn't know saying i guess. Whoever doesn't inventory pa-papa's they cut it by the the margins man. They don't send you less than they don't send you more. They what i didn't tell you that with the when we get when last week when my wife and oldest daughter tried it the first one that we went to the guy was like they had a delivery. He was like oh well. You can't order right now because it's you know the truck just got here. They have been open. Mind you for at least an hour and a half at this point and trump was just now getting this. We had to go to another location. So yeah i guess that's just a that's just that's just a reputation with it so the days of putting little signs on the outside of the menu screen or over line. You can't just say. Oh not available today sunday night train. I guess the franchise owner because that's the sometimes What it depends. 'cause i think some of them don't allow you to change the signs at all some of them. Just don't care if anything the opening line. Hi welcome to talk is we. Don't have the facing which available. How can i help you. Are they show. Being where rogaine and they had a big sign me. You know chickens elders. Right the mccall. But they're not doing their time. I was just utterly whole workout. Cujo did we got another follow up because you try to know the fish sandwich as well dough. Yeah i try some. Somebody recommended after and after trial be with somebody recommended that trump bojangles and it wasn't the first time i heard somebody else head might not in the context popeye's sandwich but just talking about fast food. Whatever somebody had recommended bojangles fishtail once before. Now figured it'd be a great opportunity to try and not happy. That's my colleague that is say no more applause. Look me okay. Look okay if you could hang sandwich to mcdonald's sandwich coup saying ballpark. Hey voice. i'm go with. I would go with Bojangles sandwich tastes better than the fish. Fillet from mcdonald's. But i do have a question for. Both of those are sixteen. Who decided to them. Because they probably didn't create its who is the person that just ran into one day. Like you know gone great with this fish. Cheese named to other instances where you you're combining fishing cheese together. I'm not saying. Hey you're see your local cafeteria school cafeteria. That's what had originated from but just discussing by the way the filet of fish tastes just like it came out of a high school cafeteria. Wait a second easy district was good enough for you when you within the sixth grade man be no no was the day we had the fish. Annandale's line a as we can try. Yeah i was jello. But we don't eat destiny more either nine s with no jello matched joke for is by the way she's angel. I mean it can't be right wasn't To it was okay. It actually wasn't it wasn't elect. That would bring me back to jolo don. Nothing's bring you back jello. That's your you'll sarah pets. Kids is like a top five cave. Passages wasn't his style word. Mike jello itself wasn't as sour. As long as i thought it would be But it's not like they didn't take anything away from it It was good. It tastes like our pets days by the liquefied. It's ours our catch in a prequel supposed to destroy instagram. It is the crunch crunch. Mix from -til is essentially cheetos colored any original crunchy tito in a bag. Chiro on tv Trademark this is it tastes exactly like the popcorn with tito. It's not if you like great. Dissolve you live in like the texture. The crunch kind of almost thought the area whatever it crutches tito is crunchy yes. I'm asking me how does taste like taco life ample the cashew you gotta have. How'd it makes taste chief five corey. They literally they literally combined market price of on ed based kitchen at night and you find it in post approach mix. It looks like explosive and exciting. Like you wanna try to new york banks there you go. I was like he's got the origins just the background. 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Actually it's a bag of chips so it's not like you're gonna chew is probably like eight hundred series so i kinda i kinda get. Do stay tuned for more serious and man. I bought ten bucks grosso anyway to do that. They're not gonna find one child. Y'all gonna be the next next next month. Yes yeah just tell them about it. Man exit for trains is need. That's it is the gist. I don't i don't always asked about what they sometimes i remember. They got going on the. Don't whatever happened to him who he was expecting you to do like Circa early two thousands radio. Dj hyping up a party. That's going not only was inside this fruit. Ladies in free more air w job to realize why because i used to help like being a key being a young man and listening to the radio not being as you get into the club. I always ladies getting free. Like they'll never know fellas getting a free breath. You know why now. Yes if it makes so much perfect sense so much and we know we. Don't we know. 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The things you find out random. Y'all i will be brought this week. Easy that's a great question How many we have left on your checks. Oh shit let's see we've been using them shits like a good five or six. I think we've got one or two left. Let's let's let's go to the The database here and see what we got. Please filibuster ammonia so a mixing the definition of filibuster. Right there that. Oh yeah we gotta do that filibuster. It is right there word of the week where we word week. All right vocabulary words no more filibuster to waste time and vocabulary and all the sight words guy. Same thing the well me not site where you can get known me's okay this is all right. I'm gonna send you this one. And he got word disease asked me to. It gave me a list. We have one that could fit the game in conversation that we're having but we also have one related to food. I'm a sinister easy. See if he gets his stamp of approval on this Food can always get an argument around this place. That's for sure that's a good one. I remember some useful so that one or are we got I don't know if we did this one. Also so we got a food related one we got our streaming services. Okay listening to fool one because there's some really good options here okay. There's a lot of 'em so young. I had to stay with me on this one. All right i'm just that you can go ahead and throw streaming service. Went on to win window because hbo makes me it's we. We can talk about that because in a in a little while and also in a little while people are going to be in a second maybe give it a year. people are gonna be talking about. Hbo max is a superior streaming service. We just give it a little bit of time because king yeah that. Hbo who man netflix's mcdonalds at this point. Whoa this is familiar and you. You know what. I'm saying like something that they can everywhere yet. This year it is available. everywhere yeah they got they got a bunch of stuff even if all over the good they don't keep driving new stuff even rice it our it bring it on the menu. Often you net netflix donald's at this point. Hbo max's to all right so the bourgeois mcdonald's its way Makes sense okay. So here's what we got. We got like sixteen said a marine out. it is a lot of so just bear with me So one gotta go we burgers shrimp pizza tacos crab legs pasta bride chicken fried fish. Yeah that's what i'm saying was like nine of them Obviously we will share this on the on the video. But i'm gonna say one more time so you i really don't find real burgers. Shrimp pizza tacos. Crab legs pasta rod. Chicken fried fish in st some. Make this easy Tacos gotta go. They can get the hell out I definitely won't be hurt. Neither way they never come back. All these foods are very good. It's always eleven degrees chuckle. Letting you are you in the family for might be this the first time soon as easy at taco what else is right. i wouldn't miss by taco booze anyway. I agree tacos on this list. Steak gotta go but nah bad. You don't want to start. But they could not state. This mother is some of the stuff was only before. Say because actually you know i. I like burgers but steak oftentimes. If you go somewhere they cook it wrong or new as they great for you and i don't really like it anywhere from we real quick real quick Just for shits and giggles. How do you like your state. I like my steak from a place. Like ruth chris or somewhere verse media will and it just it cooked on. Its own at the table. Equality still high Finishes cooking heroes Oh okay i just. I was wondering how do you like you. Stay medium to medium where okay cool just wanted to know you. Don't ask me easy. I like to cook motherfucker. That's how i like it cook concerning if you eat you still chewing on it into next week one day. We're going to have a conversation about where you got beat. Fro- today's conversation. He wasn't dad. You eat charcoal or oven. Gas needed some smoke. Smoke right sixteen was one of the guy goes. Okay so what. Okay so let me let you know. Ever for why i'm picking picking in it'll make sense to okay or at least i feel so i'm going to look at this list. And they got some hillary pod choices on here just like come on with you mental gymnastics. He comes okay. So my one gotta go off of this list of things and i'm prepared to mean face from all over. Its crab legs. I just. I knew he was going to say this crab controversial. Tell say that. Why and the reason why crab legs because man. I love crawfish man. Like none other. So if i don't have crab legs i can just replace. That would eaten crawfish. And it's not a big hail close grasslands a same editing but i just like y'all gave up tacos. There's no way that i'm giving up tacos. Eleven too much is certain ones that have no shots like not giving a fries fried chicken up pizza. You put it in just a short. How much i disagree with you. The first one stand for mean is between fried chicken and crab like those are my favorite food. That's the audacity. Try to come. Pare crab ways to crawfish. Like shales on it does You get full off of those any takes forever. I've never had it. I mar sony give of cranleigh shrink it down and give me this. Take the meat makes this. What the corn and the potatoes and everything else for is for. Listen i'm just looking at all these habits. You could boil crab legs and do the same thing. Potatoes corn sausage. But i'm saying if you start talking about crab legs. I mean you turn it down ball. Shrimp from anywhere with the corner potatoes. You're not you won't know know. Know what i'm saying is a lot of a lot of crawfish boils i've been to. They have crab legs. And don't get me wrong. I mean crab. Legs a cool. But it's not like my top of the list when it comes to seafood and you know we. We know a few things about seafood. Shrimp me saying it was gonna take my choice every week on one got to go you keep this year. Yeah all right. how about. This was the first one stand for us. Sixteen like you not touching the first one at stake he said no i didn't say tacos was the first one that was going nowhere. Which you on the one. The one that is truly not going anywhere on this list is staying in. There's no question about it at all. Is fried chicken. It's not going absolutely yeah. I'm not going anywhere. It was never for discussion when it comes to fried chicken. It will stay in from jaw with a burger being one a so so so what was next for you under crab. Louie like next has gotta go. It would have been taco literally. Nikola one of my reasons for tacos literally are eating all this stuff inside of taco said pasta. Now you can take i. You can take it another way way if you get rid of tacos and you could still have nachos and it's almost essentially the same thing you know man. Yes that's very true. So if that's the case. But i mean this was a difficult one because everything here is good. Everything's good. yeah. Yeah i will say there is no bad. There's no bad social. Even though i'm the wondering crammed is bad. That's wrong. that's not a bad choice. It's wrong choice so bad bad food. Oh absolutely wrong about crab. Legs everything so if this happens to be one of the clips that gets cut up and goes to instagram or facebook. This is going to be the one where he's coming out on. They didn't they didn't even listen to my logic own why i chose that. They're like no you're wrong. I'm like you own your opinion. Hey rivals right and wrong is wrong matter the library. That's okay all right and wrong as that's why we're out here to have people talk about what we're talking about star conversation so if my choice become the conversation started then so be it. I'm cool with it. Dogu i wanna give they know the too because now i'm i'm really. I'm thinking hard because it gets more difficult. If taco i'm like that's a good question Almost harder than the first choice. X number two For me it's probably between you know what the other one on on easiest pizza going nowhere. Neither that's not going to wear thing another to barnaby burgers yeah. I was thinking between fried fish in burgers. But i'm leaning more fractious. Mine is going to be fried chicken jockey after the first one st stakes. But i'm the picky eater on the show. I'm well well. Look i want a rematch. Have a second round. yes of this. The left side of the screen is is sixteen. Eighty be bedbugs. The museum the right yakking over their france he can say incriminating. Those are the three got rid of arguably the top three on this list invited to any black person cookout a function anymore. You don't is five fish and chicken all here. That's definitely black. I'm not gonna waste your food. I don't already don't eat dark meat. So i'm not eat legs or something like that. The brand nobody wants those wings. What nobody wants. Darker this is easy and i get along somewhere. We get a box of is. We never fight. He can have his leg. Byes version this your whole lot. Zoning to easy point is starting to become a recurring theme. You liken dry into pass chicken and it was dry. So i'm seeing the breast is drag. It is not compared to the diet is very dry. If you buy into i prefer die is like it's basically like a breast that was like loading and it got to seventy percent and got cut off. That's what you say like talking about the size. Stop being focused on how much water is many times yet because nobody else has ordered station. There'll be planning has been is a known fact. That is the best can be to to go to go to popeye's at nine thirty right before it closes and you order a piece or family meal the majority of that. She has no breast because all day people have not been wanting the that's more yeah so easy and i never argue about that at all ever and we would you put on which putting to put anything on some people drowning. I'm you says. Nah catch a little bit. Just started doing that. Just changes pharmacy. This could i them asking lie. Just blow my bag with his much. Cages farkas illegally allows give me excuses. I've never been africa's fargo. They offer to you. Have to ask for it. So it's like a. It's like a dry season picked. Michael little pouch and sprinkling over the ticket is the best thing you will ever have ever in your mouth hot sauce. Brennan caucasians to newton abbot. This is amazing it easy. I just wonder how many of the uninitiated understand that cajun would be the word that we're us normally when it comes to that considering that we're creo and not cajun but i guess it's the word that's just associated with it so i have to like my mind around that but we'll because as white so you know they're real is the thing. Yeah but you ain't it is but you're not caging sparklys smart coming from the guy who all babies house. Yeah list liz. Liz not run now. We're back you might get this back home all your what what is easy. And what body of water is on a bay back home anyway. I a like a lighthouse on. Yeah marks plan for god that was like a random day like lose a random for like a year ago. He's remember that no good. That was to go. Like i was today though and i figured out that wasn't that wasn't a shining moment for me. No was it never gonna let you know i. It feels that way. It feels that way. And it's documented somewhere. Some guy for the first time is listening to this and he's like well what the fuck is this. Ship isn't really mean. It was worse that lives on youtube. It's like once we did and gone as long as you still around and it's going to be here one day it'll go viral in. Oh say louisiana man. No but they've got louisiana jackass believe it's got to be something derogatory about on his. A fun little throwback some guy back in twenty twenty the thought and he's like twenty sixty s and i wouldn't i would love to. We've been doing. So many damn shows. I would love to find that clinton just splice it into this one. But there's no way. I could find which episodes as i said i mean i'll be listening to randoms for six months trying to figure it out which one it were wanting to. I think you just brought it up. Oh i'm absolutely fine with that so to the guy or gal is going to go through the whole archive and get caught up on everything. If you find that one don't text if you find it we will give you something. I don't know what it is but in sixteen. Don't pay for a meal design. Am i knows no jim. Yes assigned bag of chips for me. And popeye's fish sandwich Sponsored by no. The listeners deserve better than that. Okay then just. The pop is fish sandwich. Okay you going to get the captain. D's captain kit sandwich because that's what the consumer deserve you know now. I'm like really like on wikipedia. This all bay situation. I didn't know that more work for gustav for two days and got fired because he found out the dul was jewish but unlike gustav lose a jewish german immigrant like. What is the racism here. Who's luther who owns. Yeah in nineteen thirty nine. A jewish german immigrants name gustaf brun started the baltimore spice company which is known. This obey gustav had all okay okay. Gustaf had been previously fired from the others easily company two days because he was jewish. Yeah tom gorman the more. I'm back in one thousand nine hundred ninety something races. What surprise one other thing food related that we didn't bring up that okay so when they come up with the new name for angel momma the name that they came up with. That's the best they can come up with. Did you see it. have you seen. It is like the washington football team. More it's sounds it sounds more racist than the damn jamaa. This is the part that trips me out about. I forgot but it's like pearl meal per company. Yeah that's new company is but yeah we'll see here's the thing i appreciate them trying to. You know. Clean up a little bit of racism. One little thing at a time but literally. Nobody was asking for them to change like uncle. Ben's and stuff. We want you to stop shooting. Black people is what we like to do. Yeah nobody nobody say. We didn't want the blue we just sort of like. We didn't even have an issue. It is what it is his uncle being. Just stop shooting black people. Okay stop suit and black pete. We ask nobody. We're gonna solve this social injustice this racial injustice by changing the name of food products. And everybody's like what on one food item at a time. You know we're going to scrub feel very It feel to me like the washington football sanders. Like oh cool. Don't want us to have this name. Then we go to this like some bland tantrum like name like we can have. We won't Witches beat washington football team. I mean they could've went simple. Stop black lady and just call it syrup bam they ego lay more or not change at all literally again. Black people do not ask for that. We didn't say it wasn't out. There protests saying you know what we're gonna make a change here. okay. But i appreciate it. You know if you notice race as racist connotations or some racist origins sudanese characters. I understand the sentiment wasn't the first thing that should have happened now. You gotta be probably do some dollars towards like a you know h vcu or something. You know what i mean but just the whole thing feels weird forced. It does and again. It's it's going way from the bigger issue. And i'll say it again. Just stop shooting black people. That's what we ask for. Stop shooting us somebody. who's it. i was like man. That's always black people on tv starting to feel like too much. I ever commercials about like right. Got like light folks in commercials and ads about black creativity. Bought a young black people doing like random sheet. The company on commercial stove late and screams try hard. I think about it like you just been so racist for so long. It's just this is what normal should feel like now not just having no just like you turn commercials for the black people. That shouldn't be an ordinary. that's true it's gonna stay here and ask you to donate first of all. Let me just tell you one thing. Corporate companies okay. We've worked for our fair share. If you're going to do good you're going to charity. You're gonna donate just effing. Don't put these little black her talented on your website and until media. Go donate to support the cause. No use donate. Don't tell don't sit here and say oh we're supporting such to donate a nun in which you should do is donate 'cause you're going to write off anyway. I'm already a regular person. Just out here trying to get china to die under the is that you don't pay so how about you. Just go ahead and pretend that you know reparations for all in one go ahead and contribute without asking the community to contribute on your page so you can say something about black people but like you're not actually doing anything good you're dismissed just started the all right cool. Keep going mc saying okay. This is going to be a tough one. A remember where we started random school. She knows what she's doing. We anyway by random is so this weekend. I watched the little things on. Hbo mets and. I don't have to tell anybody to do it. I can do myself. There's a rant incoming about this real quick that movie when you look at that movie and you see man. Denzel washington rammallah jared leto. This got hit written all over it. It's one of the worst movies i've ever seen in my entire life. It's just hideous. It's terrible awful dreadful. I can't believe that. I have wasted my time watching that ship. It's so incredibly bad that i have. Hbo mac subscription. And i said at my house. And i want my money back. That's how bad it. The ending is preposterous story. Up to it is pretty good leading up to put the ending the build up to the to the ending. The narrative of the story is just fucking stupid and i am shocked that somebody is greatest. Denzel washington chose to do this. He doesn't need the paycheck at this. He doesn't need to do the movie. So i'm trying to figure out why he's even in this ship. It's awful it's terrible. don't watch it. Fuck them for making it for me watching it. That's my following question ma. That's not that's not. I have a bunch of blemishes on his resume. A lotta on what is a major client. They worded it was kind of like a stripper in club. Like you don't have to do this. You could wasn't bad all the way around or did the ending just piss you off. Okay no it's just it's just bad okay bad because a lot of emphasis on ending to oh no ending that soured. The host like washing washing. It i'm gonna see this through. Wins this you're going to be overhauled what that's what this movie or john henry. Oh god this movie close. John henry is a different level of that. All right. let me put it to you like this. Remember earlier when i was talking about the thigh is seventy percent loaded before somebody cut it off and it became the breast. This movie right here is the movie seven but it's like sixty percent loaded and then it stops at sixty percent. Wow so avoid all costs. You've been warned. That's my random. Oh also people who own a instagram. just trying to give me to join with bitcoin. Kiss my head. I don't know. Are you sure because they're currently waving areas late late late one hundred dollar bills right now. Are you sure that's okay. Same thing with that Nigerian prince he just got just a sec full of money waiting to give it away. I'm good we should heard about that. they visit Nigeria scammer the famous one. I forget his name like who do you. Something out of line scam out of one one point. Three billion dollars him. In north korea teamed up in scammed united states citizens are one point three billion but he only got caught up because he was trying to impress black china. Shit oh that guy down man. Why would he lied to. Show that shit man. The next week. I will tell you guys how i like. Catfish on instagram. When i found out this guy was cafe me from africa trying to scam money pretending to be united states now military guy and i was just started asking questions i wait and then was a great story. I actually found the real guy in mris tim on instagram. A whole great story. I have to send receipts in everything screenshots. I hope i still have them say to netflix. We've got that story and more. Yes list we forget which is bound to happen. The please right now. Well yeah when when you're ed and sixteen detroit. All right we got. Well thank i i can. I can go next I'm just say this right now. If mccormack seasonings are the main part of your arsenal when you see them food. I don't want none of that ain't seasoning and in ain't gonna have no flavor in it and that season each month. Wow i feel attack easily. You know million mute. It was with some of that stuff over here. Man i got bill maccormick wrote it is the majority not majority now. This is for. This is for the people that it's the majority of your arsenal Yeah sixteen that is not the majority of your arson arrived in your cabinet. I know yeah no. it's not the majority. It's us on certain things. I i get what you're saying that lilly. Yeah let's let's not be ignorant here. I said is the majority of your arson news. It but if you if you say we say hey man what's your go to seasoned salt and you pull out a thing mccormick. I'm just not going to the same and only brought that up. Because deep randomly brought the history of mccormick just wanted to let down. Oh disrespect you'll need to step up y'all season saw game. That's the main go to get my seasons from farmers market. I'm good i want my rematch in a picky eater contest. Very soon here. this okay. Me gouda will work off line on. Oh yeah it'll be interesting for us to submit foods that we like in you guys could hit like the weird stuff that we like to see if the other person also likes it. That'd be interesting. I would like to listen. Foods are right. 'cause i don't think there'd be anything weird on the weirdest thing going. Yeah because there's like a lot of normal stuff like something harvey examples. Perfect example is sixteen. Do you eat dragon fruit. I dragon fruit fruits next that. I'd like pretty good but i don't need national dragon clue but i got these fruit. Snacks welches makes dragging fruit fruits. Next pretty pretty good at the dragon for this is the fruit. It is but the weird because the average person on the hill as it does bring. You can't say what it tastes like. It's not readily available delay. Sarah scott what do you eat our now sour sop. I don't even know what that is exactly wanting to do. I need to put the definition of that or a picture. That'll be fucking cactus. Plant is not a question to leave off at the end of the show. Sounded like it sounded like you. Verbally sneeze is broccoli real vegetable or was it. Genetically created genetically created a hybrid vegetable. It doesn't have seeds so it is made a cujo. You gotta you gotta random before we get to wilkin man i did. I forgot now about as infatuation with rappers coming out of jail by by requested by every time. And and i i was really has happened more recent years. 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Episode 214: Just a Few Questions

Historically Thinking

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Episode 214: Just a Few Questions

"Welcome historically thinking a podcast. That's about the past an auto complexity but also about how historians write history and everyone can think about it for more information about this or any episode goto historically thinking dot. Org can also sign up for twice a month newsletter. Hello today is our fourth episode in a year long series about the skills historical thinking. And it's about that terrifying moment which leads to actually writing about history the question and then the thesis we ask questions we have to. I ask a bigger question. What questions make historical sense of the documents in front of me. Then in the thesis we trying to answer that question hopefully with claim that's worth making what good questions are and what they are. Not claims are worth making. That's what will be talking about today. With bill. Farrell william cafaro is the gertrude conaway vanderbilt professor of history at vanderbilt university. Where for his sins. He has also director and professor of classical metro train studies and director of the economics history program in the department of history. He was last on the podcast episode. One of three talking about his book petric's war and most recently. He has published teaching history with widely. Bill welcome back your fan favourite. It's great to be back. Thank you very much for inviting well. And you and i asked you you immediately pumped for this one poem like that Everyone had served one two or three on their list. That you were like this is the one i want to do. why why. What is it about the question and the thesis that inspires you will be. I think because. I think even agree with me one hundred percent because as you just said it's it's kind of one of the most difficult things to do and the most important thing to do and it's not easy to teach people how to ask historical question that is is worthwhile and useful And as you know. I mean good. History begins with a good question. Yeah i generally say that sourcing is the hardest thing to teach It's a but for myself. I'm thinking tomasso estelita who now teaches italian history at georgetown. And who is my. Ta second semester. My first year at johns hopkins. He gave me a b. And i was so indignant. Because i had written a beautiful history paper which. I'm really glad that i got to be out of i. Don't wanna read it ever again. Because i had no question. I just told a narrative of something And that's what i thought history was and it's very hard was took years for me to realize that wasn't why history was. Yeah and it makes it makes it no more easy to different people will tell you different things about how to do it but it base. It has to have the thesis right. And that's the thing that is difficult to find until so you read around in the sources. At least this is what we tell our students. I tell my students And then go to primary sources and try to come up with a question. That is a is a viable question. The kind of a question that people wanna know the answer to you know i always. I jokingly You know i don't say this to my students by say there's something sometimes my colleague benedetto croce for example. Since i'm gonna talionis wants wrote that the only good questions those that resonate with the president and in so far as you know i work on the euro. The black death. I've never been current in my entire career now. I am in the worst possible way that has happened sometime in the question. I mean people have asked me you know what do you think about the impact of pandemic since you should know something about it and that's where it becomes kinda squirrelly right out because in the sense that the black death and cove nineteen or not the same thing right and understanding the difference between the two and still making the former or black relevant is is critical right because it had its own set of said thing so historians are in the business of context and also asking the kinds of questions that people in the modern world with like to know the answer to Because you know the great history of of a of historical thought itself is about you know history as a lesson you know. That's what the old back to the fifteenth century. Riders would say history is useful because it serves the lesson for the present. So when you're thinking to writing a paper you would not necessarily think about a lesson for the president. Perhaps but you might think about something. That is a good question. A kind of the kind of a question. That has a thesis. it like why something was. Maybe that's why you got a a grade. I know i i myself. I mean i remember when i started. People say you're very journalistic you right. What happened you know. Well that's part of being a being historical. You have to look at sources. And i was told the gradual. Never go beyond those sources you know which i think is a very important thing that students need to learn. 'cause sometimes they they wanna make a bigger point and they actually have the information to do and And then have a kind of a basic thesis. And i would also go so far as to say i'm medieval so i am a defacto irrelevant As i tell my employers the at every opportunity. I didn't do this in order to be current with. Certainly i am and i find that very disconcerting about warren disease bill. There's an economics are those are always current. Ns the thing you know. I mean in the distant past whether or orange the more recent past if you know from your own work There are there are analogues with what's going on today. And so on. But that i mean that in itself doesn't make a good question but what good question in my opinion is is also to keep in mind sometimes the most obvious question Or something relating to something. Big is a good question. Like for example. I always use the example. I've been working on dont'a in you would think my goodness everything that needs to be said has been said about or certainly everything that needs to be said about the black death. I've found in my own experience that often. When the topic is big the presumptions are even bigger and the closer you get to the more you can actually nuance it. So odd fairing. I i wanna i wanna go back to a little early and then i want to work back up to that because you said you use the my favorite w word for why and Okay obviously the five paragraphs essays not the only way to write an essay. There's been there's been much export recently. About how bad they are to my mind. It just it just a first step. It's just getting away people thinking about them and for i've had a lot of nineteen year olds should know how to do this by now. But they're like. Oh my god no one ever. Tommy the five paragraph essay before so having said that likewise i would say to students don't who questions uninteresting answer it with the fact if i can answer it with a fact it's not a good historical question do you. How do you go along with that. I mean do agree. One hundred percent with that and i have to say i'm adding out. You and i have read some of the same literature about that five because at some high schools. They've been doing that sort of five paragraphs sort of some ation of the read. And so what's happened is i've come into Come in contact with a lot of students who think that a summation of something is the same thing as writing historical paper. I think a summation of something camby used effectively. If you want keep students on on the ball with respect to the reading and have a good discussion in class. But i actually i. I'm sure you. I i take longer the matic papers. I i actually give the students questions that are more. Why questions in addition to what. I think you need to say something about what. But i also think that you need to kinda have thesis something that brings it together. A reason this stuff. is import. I struggle with that. I provide a wide question so they could see why questions were important and often my questions for undergraduates a comparative questions to you know trying to compare sources to understand what the author is trying to get at you know and in that case you know because they do the middle ages and there are so many there actually i have so few sources than say you would have for them to read. I have to have them read very carefully and have to remind them as you do as well you know that. What's not said is also important in a source as it as it is as what is said. What are you expecting to see. But you don't see in the sources and stuff and again this gets to the sort of larger way of putting this all altogether We have a course vanderbilt where we have. It's called the capstone where we're supposed to actually pro grammatically teach people how to write research papers. And that's really so so we have a kind of a a a scheme and now whether that's the right schema not his into question but what we generally do with our students as we have have them read around in the secondary literature This is how they formulate their question now and then we have them read a little bit around in the primary sources that might be referenced in the secondary ones and then we have them write a short little bit on the secondary sources and how they work together on how the primary sources might than work and then formulate the question from there and then proceed for. It's a three semester class so what they form it. Yeah it into kind of an unusual thing but it's a you know it's an interesting way of kind of getting people to think historically as you say into think critically and i think one of the things you and i both very concerned about is that students often don't think critically They know how they think. History is about memorization of a bunch of facts and presenting them and we have some popular examples of history that this don't necessarily ask critical questions. Did critical thinking does describe which gets back. Dante Well a couple of things first before the summary essay Probably abuse this Unpack before by hundreds of hundred episodes ago. A friend of ours Who worked for intelligence agency would get smart kids from places like vanderbilt And he would ask them for a paper on x and they would come back and they would say you know. Most people believe this about x. And he would say no. What's your opinion on x. And my opinion and they would get my opinion. Is that most people believe that you know this about and this go round and around around. He had what he discovered was. It was very difficult to get. Junior analysts An intelligence agency whose product might conceivably be read by now cabinet secretaries. Were the president hard to get them to come up with their own opinion and it wasn't. He realized for third their brand new. It's not because they're involved in covering their butts and best bureaucratic fashion. It's they really had hard time in getting to thesis statement so he actually started teaching course and come up with analytical thesis statements. Which had it made me a little embarrassed that Because if this is like this is what historians this is. What we should be doing is the thing you know does that. You know it doesn't and in fact. I mean that's why when you say i was. I was eager to do. This is because it's the most difficult thing. I think i do now. And that's why. I wanted to talk about it because i'm not sure i have the magic solution but what you just described as a wonderful thing because trying to get people to think critically and then give a a thesis type statement is not easy you know. Sometimes i tell my students you know. Think about yourself as a lawyer which is easy. I guess in history for selami students to do. But you're presenting a case you know and the case is you know you're trying to convince a jury about something you know and that requires bringing the evidence that you have and that you've read to bear for particular argue. I even go so far as to say you may disagree with me. You don't even have to agree with that argument. Necessarily you make your client may be guilty but you know put together something. That is actually your opinion. Your thesis based on what you see you know. Try to reduce it to that. And i think in some ways that does translate to students but i don't want to pretend that i have any more success than anybody else in some ways. I feel i have less. Because one of the things i cannot convey. The students is the love that people like me. How for ancient language. And that's part of the source base that we use and then you know when you're dealing with primary documents there in another language then making a thesis becomes even more difficult because you've got all this disparite stuff and i try and tell them that though it still has to be focused into your interpretation of documents I've even gone so far. Sometimes telling my students be a ruler. Be a king queen. Don't be afraid to interpret what you see on me because that's the whole process of doing history right. It's taking the fax and interpreting. You don't have to be right But you have to be You know very very careful with the sources to be to respect them in such a way as to be accurate as you could possibly be everything you say needs to be backed up without. It's you know but it's it's just evidence in dozen have a thesis doesn't ultimately come to a point about why sometimes i ask them questions by giving them the contrary and then say what do you think about this at which sounds a little bit like what you were you were describing. I mean some of my questions. I mean again it most of my undergraduate classes. I have them just do regular i do i. I don't like the five paragraphs thing it's true. And i have the same. Was the us for a briefed will for three years. Actually it wasn't so how's the has. Us painting director of undergraduate studies. Which is like everyone has to serve a term. This is not a distinction. Anyway way pushed on the handgrenade eventually. Yeah exactly and i've been around long enough that i've been on a couple right now as you said. Get classical mediterranean studies driving crazy. But you know but on the other hand you. I certainly would come in. And i would say to them. You know. most of the young faculty like to use short two page papers based on reading. Just summarize it and then the students we'll talk about it and they'll say we have wonderful class discussions and i've asked some of the students as they came into my office. You know about the classes as what do you think of these short papers because just about everybody uses them and they say this is great it keeps me up the reading and stuff and i said what do you think of long papers almost invariably almost everybody out would say. Oh i hate them. I took bad about them. He goes well. 'cause i have to sustain the thesis over like seven to nine pages so me being me. I thought i'm gonna keep that. I'm throwing some of those short ones because my young colleagues right now. it's good. eat them up today. We need to find ways. I use quizzes. I use very but also that short thing what i do actually i tweaked it into try to actually assess a source of primary source in write about so there is a kind of a thesis embedded in that. So let's Go to you. I've been reading the. Let's say not the uvula but the oprah omnia is more appropriate of cafaro. I dip back into John hawke would. I've been looking again at petric's petric's war. So i'm i'm curious about The questions that you came to To come up with these books so you were studying with michael mallett. He was there when i was. Yeah he was there for a time. Yeah he was not part of the Part of my formal thesis committee. Which is kinda would probably surprise you. If i that was i'm surprised that he was because he was he had said he did. He did mercenaries in italy. And that i do the topic absolutely i. My first topic was daunting in the byzantine. He's by the way this while prospectus. Am i advise pelican. Baas allow and the skimming that and and my closest My my my adviser the whole time with our slow colic. And so i did. I did church history. I mean my first field was was greek and latin patristic. If you can believe i would. Actually i can't. It makes that now. I understand why how you ended up with the. Yeah okay. that's very invented myself as it came out of graduate school which i do not recommend to anybody else. I am very fortunate. And i'm very aware of to even have a job so i mean But anyhow i mean that that was my background But the way. I came up with with my questions. My first question was about i was. I was interested when i went to graduate school and being a is that. They told me that. I couldn't get a job. And i thought for all the language training that that takes that was undergoing that didn't make any sense. So but my big my big interest just from reading again generally was a big question which is like okay there's a byzantine emperor and there's a german person who considers himself emperor and there are two emperors at the same time in. How is this playing out in italy. Where the german number has the title to the first to the top part of the northern part of italy but also the byzantine emperor has titled to the entire empire as well so the point. When i mean to use the latin they translate to perry in the translation of the idea of empire from the roman byzantine to to charlemagne going back to charlemagne. And i was wondering how you know. How greek was italy. If you've read dante you realize the one thing. That's very very conspicuous about him. As he never mentioned zante now for a lot of people they'd be away. Its way out there but you know you. It's not way out to the mediterranean is a very small place so this always bothered me. It still does. i still ride occasionally about donna. Part of part of that group so this so this is me. We already got lots of questions you got one is in house. This workout between the two emperors in italy. How green is how. Greek is italy. Why doesn't dante mention byzantium. These are good questions. I mean and you mentioned They're mostly classical. Greeks now all class orders exactly and i and i have various theories about this. I've written articles about this not books and stuff. But i i actually conceived this is my original project and then at the very end i tried to get to you. This is a very typical story being graduated. I tried to get the two professors who were remain. Nameless will vote very well known to try to work together with me to do. This one was an expert on dante. The other one. Was you know young pelican who was my adviser. They're used to work together. And so i had to stop and think what did i want to do. And i thought you know what i like math and i liked the idea of taxation and economic things and one thing i thought was interesting is like what's the distinction. Here's a question again. That i would recommend for people. What's the distinction between what we call medieval in what we call renaissance. It sounds alec ridiculously stupid. Diatoms now see that's interesting because that sounds so broad. That's the kind of thing that a freshman would come to me. And they talk about the difference between the medieval and renaissance or like. What's difference between like early. Republican like antebellum bellemare. Ohka no. please don't gig. I mean even and wouldn't be any different if they were like second year graduate student or first year for sure. Undergrad still sounds too big yet. And i anything it also shows again something that we have to make clear also students that understanding writing a good question writing. A book is part of a process in that it altered question alters as you move forward and you see what's possible what's not possible. I would only say in my defense for that kind of broad questions. That i started again. Make i mentioned as math major. So these kinds of like basic things always stood with me and then for me and particularly as i started became apparent in through my wife by the way not. Because i'm talion american. But i started becoming more interested in italy and And i thought you know. I i thought look at. There's a there's a large literature on cnn because it has wonderful archive and whatever else you say about that city. It seems quintessentially medieval whatever that means and then you've got the neighbor our away florence which is quintessentially renaissance. Whatever that means so my in for my dissertation was to study both of these places and see where the point of separation happen. You know went because they were both you know. Both of them had the great artist. John doe and then you've got mona martini in the early fourteenth century. And then they kind of diverge so that was my plan and you can see from my over to the extended. I have one that. I actually have not answered that question. The good thing about these questions that they raise other questions. You also very important. But i loved. It has fundamentally you're asking why the simplest questions are. Why is this place sienna. Not like this other place nearby florence. Then what's the difference. Suzanne marchand who is on talking about porcelain and eastern european and portsmouth factories. She said on the podcast and opt to ever to have a clip from this A supplemental Bunch episode she. Which has all these museums mitteleuropa and they all had rooms with porcelain. And she was like why do they have rooms of porcelain and turns out of course that this was a fantastic question to ask which intersected basically business and economic history questions of state manufacturing and state directed art artistic endeavors and technology history of technology. All these things came together in these state manufacturing poor manufacturers porcelain by was just chew just looking around. She's noticing what was in plain in plain sight. Which is so often the the best question to ask exactly exactly and then like i said and in her case obviously it also became more nuanced as she went forward. Mike mike question. I mean i i. That was the question of my dissertation prospectus. I went to see anna to see what was there. And i was shocked to find that when i looked at the Actual sources which was no small thing because they are in latin in there in paleo graffiti. And i had to learn all that on site of which something out of but i can't but i can boast about it because nobody wants to know but it was pretty difficult but i learned that i i i want to know because that was of course terrifying to me the idea that really in the end you have to go to milan. Wherever and you're gonna have you can take horse but in the end. It all comes down to being in the archive looking at that person's latin as that person's handwriting. That's right and now i've i now. There's nothing. I actually love more. And in fact i probably impeded my career because i continue to do it even into a late age where most. I'm the oldest guy in the archive where i used to be the youngest. But i have to say that i have never been so scared as the first my walked up the stairs into that cut. You know i mean. Because i thought my goodness you know here i am. It's i have to speak another language just to get the documents than i have to read another language translated into english for another one. And i you know and i never seen it before but i did and the one thing that shocked me. Actually i was. You know i thought to myself. I had written a perspectives thinking that what the difference between one place and another had to deal with government. Because we have that famous fresco buying learns eddie right and i thought the vat good government is what made ciano work and then bad government must have brought it down and at the same time there was a good government really taking over in florence. Or so i believe okay and so i was gonna do this whole thing first of all. I realize you just can't walk into two archives master them as a as a major fellowship. You know. I just got some money from my department. I mean i tried to get a fulbright. And i didn't get one you know. So here it is if you was like after not getting something gertrude. Conaway vanderbilt professor of history. The that just shows you that they should have invested in you but you put your heart and soul into the work that we do. That's what we do. That's what we're that's why we love it. And you know when i was looking at the the actual documents i couldn't i could not pass over the fact that the biggest expense for any did go to florence as well was for war and then looked at the literature and i noticed one thing that nobody wanted to talk about war. They still don't. And maybe because of vietnam in america and maybe it was because of world war two in europe. I don't know but nobody wants to be known as a military historian. And i thought to myself. I didn't even if you look at the people. I studied with a parker michael malik for one class. i have no background whatsoever. No one ever accused your soft pelican. No one ever did. Accuser pelican of being a military historian and john dies will did sexuality. And that's what i that's what i. Ta'ed for and so. I had to really reinvent myself. Because and here's an example of how one writes a paper because you come up with a theory you come up with a question but then you have to have the flexibility when you confronted with the documents to change that theory i i thought it would work really beautifully if i would just do the lauren's anything and frankly by britain at book instead. It would've sold better. I career when taken off. Instead people started telling i remember my first job interview with ohio state which income close to hiring me said so. Let me ask you about did these conduct cherry. Aren't they german bakers. I remember the by the way. I mean i think it you know with the whole thing. Even to this day out people ask me. You know. I mean ask bill. He knows all about About condo jerry. And whenever there's a discussion machiavelli i'm invited and i i don't even know machiavelli very well. I mean if it were her telling. I could talk because i still remember it because i would. I mean i mean an agree example and this is why i try to tell my students to have a real idea what you wanna do because it brings you there. But of course they can't share on the experience of an archive but when they start reading the sources. They have to be flexible enough to respond. So you start out with the best questions you can with the understanding that you're going to come up with new ones going to have to keep on asking questions because there's other questions are gonna fade away and they're gonna be replaced with something else. Yes everything has to be held very lightly in our hands and it's really hard turns especially i mean. Let's leave aside professional because now they're immense pressures to come up with a brilliant changing idea the second semester of your first year as a graduate student so that you can get a job. Let's site This is about asking any historic question. Really asking any question that involves of statement like those young analysts and intelligence agency is to keep on asking realizing the first set of good questions you ask will then have to be linked. There will be many others that you're going to have to proceed through before you come to your final set of questions. That's exactly right. That's exactly it could couldn't agree more. And i think the good thing about these questions is that they're generative too because you ask this question and then when you try to answer it you realize you haven't quite answered it and there's more to this question. I still haven't given up on the idea of medieval versus renaissance. And if you look at things. I've added insulin. You'll see that i'm i'm constantly trying to figure out the difference between medieval and renaissance and i'm also trying to figure out the economies of these two different places and how they work. That's what i'm currently on. And when i look at my notes you know i'll now they're like thirty years old you know degrade but but i'm still. I'm still working. What i like about this at only say that if come up with a big idea and and and not be afraid to take on you know main street topic you know. Main main line topic You know then they're all these other things you can do along the way like my career has been like let me pursue this aspect of it pursue this aspect of different questions that came up with thought. Were important that people need to know. But i'm still. I still got my eye on the original question from my thesis that i still haven't been able to answer long enough to do. So you may well sorta why Because you have a lot of interesting questions that need to be answered and what's amazing of course no one else. What people do i mean Catherine fletcher's on the podcast. She's taught the beauty and taryn rests on. She's she's getting close to you. She talks a lot about mart. Artan warfare But you send about thirty year old notes. i realize. Sometimes i'm i'm a very unlike a magpie when it comes to notes i've got notebooks all over the place i'm always using a new one and So tomorrow which i mean. They should advertise as much as i do as advertising. They do from. They changed my life. I wouldn't have written my doctoral thesis without they get. I'm beta testing the app. The new app for the iphone. It's fantastic recommended and soon we're going to have the best ever so awesome. I just imagine being a medieval. I can't wait to go back to the archives now for lots of reasons but now that can just like take a picture of the thing and put in so tara. Go back and transcribe it later than tastic Who but What i Now i've completely lost my train of thought my god but the question. How do you preserve notes. Because i i was talking to a friend of mine. distinguished professor. Uva he keeps a journal where he writes sound questions and where he thinks through questions and stuff like that and i think it's a brilliant idea. I've started to try to do that. I'm because otherwise. I've got stuff everywhere. And i think i come up with a new question but thank you question. That came up with twenty years ago. That i'm just kind of half remembering or i say to myself who this wasn't when i turned fifty. This is happening before you know. I had a really good question the other day. I forget what it was. So how do you deal with that. Because you know we're all the brain is always on roy generating. Yeah but you know. I actually do it in a mechanical way. I always jimmy. My students will say. I jokingly say Inspiration is bourgeois and. It's not something that i i try to try to get. What i do is every morning. I work at about the same time. No matter what the circumstances are and i what i when i come come up with an idea. Like for instance. I'm leaving the archive. Come with an idea what i do. Is i write it down. And i try to sort of flesh out a little bit so i have on my computer. I do this on the computer. I have sort of like half or none of that. Half would be giving me too much credit but it would be like a sort of a couple of paragraphs about an idea and i have many of them now. You know i'm. I'm over sixty at this point. And so i have so many of these and i know now that i am not going to be able to pursue all of them but that's how i keep track of them. I always and it often is what. I'm working on that i would do do you. I'm sorry to ask a technical thing here but german mccullough who was in my college at oxford who eminent surgery but mccullough eminent church historian he had just one word document i. He wrote his entire thomas all the notes for like his book on the history of christianity were in one word document. God knows how many along it would be. If you print out he would just do searches for stuff in it. I don't know how you can organize things like that. Obviously no one could ever possibly write a book who organized their research in such a way a wing he has. But i do you. Just sit down like you're out of the archive. You get the idea you sit down you put into one word documents like trump teen a ten thousand word documents with different stuff. I don't have that many at all. Because i don't have that many ideas that i do. I do put him into word documents. When i i would give it a title like for example you since i read a lot of these records that are for financing wars and financing all different. Things names like bocaccio. Petrarch suddenly come out. And i think this would be an interesting article about. Oh cacho and i start writing down things in and then but but just a little bit. I also for the thirty year project that i have. I actually do have one of those things. That sounds a bit like what you were describing where i have like. I don't know something like three hundred single space pages. That i i can't even follow and it's actually counterproductive because when you get all that you feel you have to read it over again. You gotta watch out you don't you. Don't get yourself all. Bollock stop about it because you can't say everything about anything you only can say a certain amount and a lot of writing is also being rhetorically solid. So i i'm high err on the side of having all the information and then you to be careful about that so my system i can tell you one thing that makes me a little different from other people. I think i maybe the same as you. I use notebooks. I mean i start all my ideas. I go to the archive. Whenever i have an idea. I start by writing it down in pencil on this paper while york to archivist archive archive rat. You can only use a pencil and archive anyway. So you end up doing enough in pencil and i i. I put a lot of emotional energy to find the best possible. Mechanical pencil We for far too much but But also i've got to the point. Where i actually gave up for a while. A i've tried dictation software which i kind of like sometimes And it helps me get stuff down. But also i write the second draft. Longhand i write a lot with longhand i. I get really superstitious about the pen to. But i don't want to go to like the computer until like the third draft. Well i as. I said you know when i do is because i spent when i go to archive i actually take all my notes in pencil and remember some woman who must have been over. Eighty came up to me and for some reason just hugged me and i wondered why she did that and then as she left she said something to somebody in italian that. You're the only other person he's the only other person that's still use. Because in the archives now they prefer you use a computer 'cause then you don't search the documents at all and i. I use my pet pencil all the time. So i'm very old. So when they do come back with an idea from the archive. I tend to type it out and i think through by actually writing down the notes from the archive. It's kind of zen like process where i'm actually processing the material. I see a lot of stuff. I have to copy. We have to copy. Because we don't have money the time to spend a lot there so i mean a lot of it. I do it. But i do. I am very deliberate. Now do it. So some of the ideas i get from the arcot. I always make sure. When i come home i write something that kind of puts it together. So i'm i'm i'm in the situation. The next time. I show up in new york. I have a plan. You know i just don't i just don't want to let it go but i have to say that when it comes to drafts of things i'm i'm with you i mean it's it slows me down clearly But i you know. I type like a former math major too. I use to fingers. And i prefer to write things out because i like the way and i'm very particular about my pencil. I like these particular pencils. Because they're they're good. And i also very particular about my pen and my wife's even worse she uses a fountain tan. I started the fountain pen to Getting i'm i'm getting real crazy. I know and sometimes green ink just to show also insane. I'm probably on the verge writing letters to the times of london. So i So we've talked about questions generating questions saving questioned. This applies to mean i. I know i want these days. I've always wanted to talk to detective on historically thinking. And i know that detectives have the same of the same process about looking through their notes looking all the rest stops not just on. Tv shows. Forget the board thing but they they transcribe their notes and look through them in order to see things that they missed. The same process visas. The thesis statement something that used to a towards that used to create a worm. fear deepened. my bowels I the best explanation i could ever find. I went to what you think of this to for teaching. Undergraduates was the thesis statement. Is the best answer. You can come up with to your best question. I think that's well put. I really do understanding that. It's contingent based on the continuing research that you're going to do you read something in the. I think you said something very important. Rereading i mean when i weighed something the first time i wish my concentration were better but when i read it the second time i have an opinion about it you know and then that helps me get a thesis statement. And then that's thesis statement as you said it's something that ultimately needs to be then answered And i i just would tell my students that they should keep an open mind. Have at thesis and it's not difficult to do when you think about it because we all have opinions but it's based on substantive reading right and then you know Be flexible enough to change it as you read the primary sources more more carefully because we're in the business of primary sources we we And you know having assumptions going in is a good idea but also be willing to change those those assumptions. I know that's been my whole career. I mean i. I could never imagine I would be associated with war in any way but you know that's what the documents say. I mean it would be to me. It seems it would seem silly to you know. Continue with this wonderful thesis. And i know people have and have gotten a much further in their career because they have you know because it somehow what people wanna hear you know But but i actually think that a good thesis question like i said is is one that you could tell your parents and they would understand it. You know But it's also one that will invariably change as you do more research so you have to be both you know. You know exact in exacting from the start but also flexible in a certain way as you go forward but At so hard it's very hard you know. It's all about the process you know. I always tell my students. You know if you're thinking of me because all my students run. I run when people chase me like you know but but they run and they do all these things like. I mean. if you're going to run you're not gonna run a marathon tomorrow. It's part of a process. Writing mosses thinking. Making a thesis is a process. You have to start with a question. The best informed question given the time limit. You have to make one. But it's a process right. I mean even if you were becoming medieval mark. I would tell my students. There are manuals by benedict of nursia. Which tell you how to be holy. You can't just show up a monastery in the moly. You have to go through a series of exercise. Be all who describes it. It's like military training. You know so. I mean what they have to understand that writing where we invest our entire soul in it the first time around and people are afraid of it. That is the process. You're going to write something poorly even if you have a good thesis. But then you're going to. I mean could be the best advice. At god's and undergrad was from professor wasn't even my own. I taught his son in the school down the road in highschool believe it or not and he took me as i said. Let let me tell you how to write a thesis you know and he said the way you write a thesis first of all. Come up with a question that is not obscure. Go go with something like you know you might might. I don't wanna talk about harassment was has been done to do rasps. People have heard of it. You got a better chance getting getting a job. This program at the other thing you said separate reading writing from each other writing is messed is is difficult than the all stuff comes to you at once in a very specific and very unusual person. You won't be able to get all your ideas down a coherently and then once you see what he said. Continue maybe four five six days. Get the full idea out. No matter how ugly it is then printed out look at it over and then go through it because reading. See all the mistakes and then you can go and then start rioting again and actually you know i have to say i wish i would follow that more bother me when i we get this advice. We hear it. It's all about as we go. Well i mean it's the so we the way that my undergraduate worked People people who admire have people who influence people whose asides. I remember to this day. Nevertheless they taught it in ways that i would never ever do myself now. We did it and you know it's an for off this. How things work at vanderbilt. We midterm we had a final. We had a big paper. That was a I would imagine ever. I couldn't do that now And one of the things. I wish i had done. More of was requiring basically drafts a big research papers in order to so we had a john baldwin late john. Baldwin professor of northern french in the northern france de professor northern france says you need to write it and print it out and look at the cold light of the morning. Which i was remember. It's very baldwin statement Of course when you've got a final paper due december seven and like most hopkins students. We're right on december sixth and When i was a very good boy. I wrote it like on november twenty eight or twenty four th and did that and i did that once in a while. I guess that's why ended up in graduate school but But it's hard to do when you do like that. And so i think that in explaining to people that draft near thing is of course we didn't i didn't understand that and no one understands how rough draft isn't like leaving everything out leaving only putting in verbs announce It's like actually your first best attempt you know. Okay just put you can put in footnote. Footnotes can be vague. But right your first best temp. That's your rough draft and that's part of drafting. I don't know how we're gonna this from thesis statements but the fact is here's the hard part is especially for when you're thinking in depth about a topic you can do that rough draft and realize your question wasn't good and and your thesis statement wasn't good and then you have to you have to sacrifice your little darling. Yeah exactly exactly that i think. I think that's a wonderful exercise for people in as you say i mean one of the things we haven't really discussed is that when we're dealing with undergraduates. They do things at the last moment. Porno as we did i think. But you know that's not. I would not exclude myself. And so it's difficult when it comes to like formulating thesis. The best way to do that is to do that in advance. And then do the rough draft but most students that i teach anyway will just do everything at the very end and and try to put it together but what we try to do is tell them you know a research paper and just a regular paper that we assign where we just give them some sources that we want them to compare are not necessarily the same thing in the require the first one we try to schedule in that they have to hand in draft in advance and i know they do that in my classes. I make sure. And then it gives them my opinion that i meet with them individually And song but that can be done at a school like vanderbilt in the sense because our classes are maybe twenty to thirty people and that's not true of mean the school. I taught it before my class was a hundred people and it would have been too much for me to try and do something true. I mean no not pig on san jose state but the way that you're going to deal with a survey class in american history san jose state where who knows it must be three hundred fifty people lecture hall. You have to do something different. You have to figure out a different way of doing things. Yes it's not saying. Obviously what we've learned from. Kobe is that online. Is not the Magic bullet that everybody was saying it was before we started. This was the wave of the future. And i think it had some benefits but i think it had a lot of fun lot rooms as well. What he quickly. I wouldn't mook thing became a craze People didn't realize was. There's i think there's one at penn university pennsylvania which was like this really massively online class on my africa. What it was and reading article about in the enquirer was amazing. Was i think they were spending more time teaching than they were taught. And in-person class It because they're dealing with questions kazakhstan in moby dick or something like that. You know if you wanna actually had a good online class and foster good online discussion. You gotta answer those questions that takes a lot of time and It's not. it's not a money saver or a time saver in the ways that either of administration faculty with thought it would be. Let's go back to dante. Got close up now. Closes conversation down but before we do. You were talking about dante. You're also around the same time saying how i could paraphrase myself That there are hundreds of books written about dante but on close examination of the hundred books written about him Seven hundred ninety are the same They're they're oftentimes in. This could be true. I often said about washington that say this about napoleon. probably caesar jesus how no other topics where people are getting through ciaston for a topic. They get enthusiastic for personal usually and they read the other books on it. And kinda reproduce the other books of set. I couldn't agree more and it's also true about cacho with more firmly in my theory who has not been studied much by the way strangely now. Kind of a what what the problem is that. Some of these people like down to with studied. You know not long after they died. I mean bo- cacho wrote a biography of dante. And then you know a bunch of other people wrote about as well and what's happened was winning. I noticed in working on. And i was interested in the notion of empire dante which is a big topic as of about forty years ago but now nobody cares to my notion of still really important. Empires don't exclude zante. It's very simple. I can say it in a sense you know because they were operative even the people who kicked them out of the city. They had branches over in bizarre. I mean not in byzantium per se but in roads and any in cyprus and stuff and they dealt with the east it's not like they did know know what was going on that he simply decided he wasn't going to include them and i have a theory of why but i would. I would agree with you that the problem is. I noticed that people use archival citations. That were done back in the seventeenth century and people made mistakes and so these mistakes. Just keep showing up and we one of the wonderful things about what we do for a living with each generation we learn more about the past and we knew onset more and then we can actually say things. I mean. it's one of those few things that you know endeavors in humanity right now where the people who are doing it keeps getting better you know. Your generation is better than my generation generation. Probably before us than is is even better but we we. We actually provide new information. That wasn't available. Like in the case of bukhatir. For example i noticed that they they were saying. He went on embassy to visit dante's Sister and i was looking at the citation and i noticed that the citation was from the seventeenth century. And i looked it up myself in the our company. I noticed that it was in something called Record in a belief record only has to do with war. You know and. I thought wait a second. That's not. I mean the the context of that. It was taken out of context. So i mean so i thought to myself you know. This is something that people don't didn't understand the period well enough to understand what exactly that was and so it's been misrepresented. Even in terms of it happened in many books on the most recent books on god. I was only on bukhatir to i mean. They have kind of from historic from historians perspective. Some basic misapprehensions allow them also read history from what dante said presuming that what he said was was accurate. You know and of course it's a poem is my teacher does out the is the same bill. Your historian but you have to admit that it was a poem even understand literature i can. I'm reading stop for the day studies people. I mean like articles that are published in stock which is real. It's tough to alabama at that point in my life where i read more than i publish. So i mean and and you know. I'm reading things about you. Know don this attitude lunigiana and stuff like that and how he thought of. It is a special place to so you know you can walk to lunigiana in two days. It's like i it. Just it amazes me. Sometimes how they have cordoned off parts of italy and like i said byzantium and my own particular interest. As if they're they're far away but and yet. Nobody wants to admit that you can practically swim from wrong to tunisia in the meant rainy and is very much connected. Now we have an expression. Maybe because i'm a southern italian we have an expression that's called specified. Just if you have the same face you have the same race in a and i've had people tease me about being created. In fact no egyptian slaves went there and actually descendant from egyptian slaves. I cafaro sounds like phero all this other stuff. And i mean it's like i laugh at all of this because i'm i'm pedestrian in american right. I mean that's i. I am but the reality is what people don't get sometimes when they're writing about Downtown stuff is it these points of separation that they say you know this is you know the cypress's all the way here in these places are all connected. Who's on cyprus. The knights templars are. They're raised to be in france right. I mean this even if you look at italy at a time. I study it in the northern part. They're all speaking german. And even if you go to bolt on with today they still speak german. Then you've got the people in naples. They're all speaking french. Those by pathologist testing now that. We're not egyptians. Were germans up in is as you say you know and i have a good friend. But bama who teases me a great but but you know the the reality is is that you're right. I mean you know. I'm not. I'm not i'm not. I don't wanna pick on the dante's tip because they do a lot of really great work and there's a whole new work being done through archival work. It's kind of reassessing who he is and stop. I guess by my only my only hope would be in. This goes this as we i. We could pick on the washingtonians with a gun and a lot of people that And we haven't even we even named talked about Sort of the word argument and why. It's a good thing. It's good to have arguments and why it's good to look for it. But i i would only hope that That our students would make arguments but also as readers and most of the people in this podcast our readers of history that they will look for arguments that they and that they would expect that they're being argument even a biography of george washington Or dante that the that the person would be presenting an argument about what they're gonna talk about. Yeah i couldn't agree more. I mean just because it's the person it doesn't have to be thoroughly descriptive and again i would only say that you know having written about hoppy myself right. I would say that someone else could take the same documents that i use and right it. Completely different biography with wholly different interpretation. I wanted to make it clear that this was a man who is incredibly clever s. john. Hall john hall was incredibly clever and outmaneuvered people and he wasn't really a nice guy in meanwhile if an englishman road and they have you know he was sir john hawke he was a night you know he was a national treasure knees national treasure but we all have our own interpretation and a book really to me is not as interesting unless and as historian i feel it's our duty as you say to get interpretations to something you know and And and and yeah. Exactly and i was. I was keenly aware house sitting there with i. I went to twenty-six six. Archive is something. I had all this information. I was thinking to myself i could. Just you know i. I could see someone finding another whole bunch of documents saying something completely different contradicting me. And they'll be right and the whole point of what we do. Is we know we we offer information and then someone will then take that information and then move it someplace else. And that's why. I think when we talk about dante and we talk about some of these you know. Washington very famous biggest. I think people are kind of intimidated in their little fearful of kind of going in another direction which stopped they kind of just assume that what they bred is in fact true you know and then it's much easier to work with a mercenary that no one's ever heard in how and then you know. Give your opinion. But i mean there were books already written and he was a hero in every way. I'm thinking if he decided he wasn't gonna work with because they committed a massacre. Oh give me a break. I mean you know. I mean massacres. I wish i could say the man was moral. But everything. I read suggested that he was not my guess. Today has been built farrell He's the author most recently of teaching history bill. Thanks so much for being with us once again thank you thank you. It's a pleasure. 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Barry Littleton  THIS is UFO Disclosure: Sentient UFOs Are Real!

Higher Journeys with Alexis Brooks

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Barry Littleton THIS is UFO Disclosure: Sentient UFOs Are Real!

"Right now on higher journeys with alexis brooks the idea. That ufo's are real then. Possibly have non human origins is now. It appears gaining steam in the officialdom of our mainstream media though many who have invested themselves in the history research and persistent anecdotes that are ubiquitous in the literature up to present day. Don't find this particularly breaking news. What if the real story had to do with the fact that these so-called ufo's are not what they appear to be. What if some of these objects are sentient conscious entities in themselves one individual who says he's had physical contact encounters for years and have actually been on the craft. Multiple times says there are. Ufo's f os that are in fact. Organic berry littleton joins me to discuss the reality of sentient. Ufo's and explained that if we could even begin to understand how these craft truly operate inside and out we would have to immediately redefine all method. How reality works and quick. So buckle up whereabout to get an experiencers view of what you have. Those really are. Tenant is always a treat to have you grace. Our presence here on higher journey is and i think i've lost count as to many times you've been on our show at least three or four times but Either way it's always a pleasure to have you particularly now in the midst of all that's going on with this thing. We call the ufo or you ap phenomenon. We're gonna talk about that. But before we do let me formally walking me back to hire journeys. How are you thank you. Thank you good to see again and thank you for having me on a really astounded. Be back and amazed and appreciative. So thank you very much. The pleasure is mine and ours. I know our journeys love you. You always have so many dimensions to add to this Very enigmatic phenomenon. We call the contact. Ufo phenomenon. I thought it would be timely to have you on talk about of it. We're going to get really really organic. That's going to be a little bit of a hint as to where we're going conversation about the reality of certain craft ufo's new ip's. But i thought it would be timely berry because we're right on the heels of what is being considered a landmark report landmark in that you typically do not see such things on shows like sixty minutes in which they are starting to talk a little bit more in the mainstream with a little bit less of the chuckle factor about this landmark report unclassified. Report that Us intelligence committee within congress is mandating delivered to them in june. About what Our governments our government in particular knows about the reality of ufo's and you. I want to quote bill whitaker. Who did the story By the time y'all see this will have been a couple of days at aired this past sunday. Where he's he's interviewing louis alesando and i'm sure many of you know. That name has been quite vocal with his His admission on what he knows about this phenomenon. Were bill whitaker. Says you know how this sounds. It sounds nutty it. Sounds wacky and lewis alesando. Well it's real at least what whatever it is. Where we're monitoring have monitored it's a real phenomenon we just don't know what it is. Okay fine but i had to take that quote berry ad. Juxtaposed that with what you're about to share with our audience in terms of if you think just the reality of ufo's new appease sounds you ap's sounds in wacky. Listen to this berry taken away. What are we going to be talking about today. Sentient since spacecraft cinci vehicles of extraterrestrial inter dimensional multi universe type of nature. That's unreal talk about and it's something that i don't know for whatever reason at period of time rat right now people really want to talk about this and it's coming forward a lot and this also involves the organic nature these crafts. I've been talking about since the beginning. So i think The awareness of actually what we're dealing with in more of a broad To expand parameters concerning contact the contact modalities itself as ray hernandez calls it needs to be really expanded and this involves this which is living sentient crafts. That involve a symbiotic relationship with the experiencers. Contact these the crew members the planet's thereupon. That's what we're dealing with so anyway but you know we can always go back to worrying about this one hundred eighty day down the disclosure that is. I'm sorry i'm just going to be actually vague or actually candidate. I think it's going to be a waste of time. I think they're gonna what show us a couple more pictures of. Ufo's over the ocean. That doesn't they're not. They're not really going to give anything in containing air concerning true contact. What's been going on here for you. Know the the beginning thousands of years. It's a shame to me that it takes ancient aliens to really broach the topic for people to get into this be realizing what environment the planet to be. Live up on. That appears to be some type of laboratory people in without soul memory. Light life so life memories as immortal souls. There are a lot of issues here that are not addressed by population. So anyway aleve there. I think it's important that you draw that line of distinction because you know i woke up this morning and immediately had this question that i wanted to ask you. Were talking about chew entirely different conversations. Really two different worlds. You are as as much as you are of your experiences like all of us. You live in the mainstream and are certainly aware of the discussion or lack thereof. That's going on. How do you with the experiences that you've had. We're gonna get into that a bit more even though it's not the first time he's talked about it on this show but very. How do you reconcile this massive. Forgive the cliche. Divide between i think. Ancient aliens does a good job shoutout to the history channel and they do but but let me let me just finish this. How do you reconcile. What's in the mainstream and the experiences that you're having or do you well I will say this as far as contact is what i experienced. Most of what i learned in the mainstream and heard especially back then researching from childhood up was not accurate. All right it was the the contact phenomenon was nothing like what is being told media lies and i still stick to that now only now. We have things like for example race. Ccri foundation doing real scientific research on thousands of experiences contact. Tease indepth research. That's a whole different thing taking those surveys people. That are doing that now. What it's showing that. The media did not. I think it's very important like for example. The amount of individuals like me that have had positive contact. I was not it was of no sexual connotation there was no probes. None of the stuff you hear about so much right and that doesn't want under all want to discredit those interacted with now that are quote unquote whistle blowers or. Something's happened to them. Something very dark concerning their contact experiences. That's very real. So i'm not trying to take from that at all but i represent another faction of people that have stuff that happened. That's non military related and it stuff is going on here a long time and it. I'll just say this. I mean this honestly that i'm gonna point. Please understand that. I have no interest in saying. Oh i'm very littleton contacted. Please believe me. I don't care about that. What i'm interested in have been for the pro for the beginning. Why i came forward was to start talking to other experiencers dismissively get more involved with scientific community. Both of which i've been allowed to do. It's been a true blessing. So i didn't think it will go this far. But that's these are the things that will move us to a type one civilization and to finish up what's going to happen what they're exposed fine but it's not going to be the intricacies of what we really need and we don't see those things until they come from the lab until they pop up in our houses as standard appliances. You know what i mean. We don't see the back engineering. That's going on and stuff that comes from experiences like myself and many others have been saying since the beginning of the show. We've been doing together. The beginning i've been talking out that i was convinced that eighty eighty five percent of our population has had contact and now i'm a i'm sure of it. The amount of people have been allowed to talk to that. Have you don't see speaking at conferences. We don't see doing interviews but have this extensive knowledge and these incredible experiences that we all stop start networking and that's the real awakening. That's really how we become type. One civilization go a step forward which is obviously existed on this planet before. But that's another topic. These are really powerful. Things that you're saying Berry in terms of first of all the eighty five percent of the population believe maybe be having experiences and some of you know that i a whole lecture on the idea that most of these encounters made me unconscious at least much of them. I'm gonna stop for a minute. Because i'm getting an echo i think on your side. Let's see if it stops as soon as i mentioned it. Okay sounds like it. Just stop got a little echo. Hope you guys didn't interrupt your your Listening to us anyway continuing. We're dealing with technology I concur that there is definitely something very curious about how ubiquitous this is is quiet. As it's kept. I wanna stay with the juxtaposition. However for a minute between the mainstream conversation that actually has become a conversation and the real deal in terms of what's going on with the experiences just for a minute before we leave this in the launch into the real. Mind twisting stuff. you know. it's very interesting the way and you can almost predict the way. This is being positioned in mainstream in terms of really just giving the public a taste of the fact that this is being taken seriously this idea of. Ufo's anyway anyway. Ps not one bit has been mentioned about the quote unquote occupants. i get. they're having to be ultra conservative because they don't want to Let on too much about the bigger picture. i mean. obviously. It seems like the approach. They're taking with this This possibility that this is just a heretofore. An identified technology Held by a per- perhaps adversaries that are human. That is sort of the inference and how they're positioning this. I think they probably have to but berry. How much do you think they really know about. And i know this is a you know. This question has been asked many times about beyond the fact that there's stuff that's defying all of our physics and all of our technology. Oh okay we know that beyond that. How much do you think some of our official sources now about maybe what you're talking about. Oh extensively extensively even in the time probably since you and i have been conversing. I've mentioned what that there is. A fungal component to these craft and that we can correlate that with actually mushroom themselves in my ceiling in things like that and now since then. They've announced that they're trying to build structures on mars and the moon that will be made of marcy them and a type of fungus semestral and long for years now. They've been using that type of compound to fix infrastructure of bridges and roads in cities. So this is something that. I found out in childhood when i touched one of these things inside. So it's things like this. That i think have to be factored into they know and beyond that that is just coming to light things like meta materials things that these. These technologies are being used rather. It's back engineered somehow whether it's from crashed vehicles or just some type of a collaboration. They have with these. What's going to be lower vibrational. Et's that by the way this world functions right. I wanna cut in for a little bit just so we don't lose the audience of for everyone out there. What we're talking about where we're moving in. This conversation is the idea that at least some craft that we see that we experience may not be made of what we think we think in terms of you know this and metal and and tangible you know an adamant objects that are operated like we operate a vehicle would bury is What we're going to be getting into this conversation with berry is the idea that the craft some of them may in fact be organic and conscious in of themselves. We just level set here so we don't jump too far ahead but now that you know this is what we're talking about. This is not the first time this conversation happened. But it's come to my attention again. I've done some recent research on it. And i think it's fascinating so this is a question. I guess at your answering that some of these same sources that are just slowly dripping. This information to us about the idea that there's something they're not familiar with that exists year saying that they absolutely some factions. Now that we're we're talking about absolutely just ending sample to keep everybody who stay up speed. So i don't seem completely off base Something recently did a video on which was Thinking about six months ago they had released. This is scientifically and in the science community. They release something metallic glass. And when you look at what. Actually metallic glass does the properties. It has more fits wise. It sounds a whole lot like what the original roswell material said to do not before. I'll that balloons stuff got involved in all that with the original people said they handled that material. What it was doing. It was very much like what this amorphous metal is but see we don't hear the ufology communities talking about that you know but that's something that's about to in our world now you can order it on amazon. Believe so. that's just you know what one thing like. That's what i mean by when things come into our daily lives we actually pay attention to these things that come from somewhere else you know maybe not all of it is technology. That is strictly human ingenuity. Can you explain what this material at. you're talking about. Just what you just mentioned more material that you mentioned what it is. It's just metallic glass. It's like a lights. It's it's it something you can like grab crumpled up and let it go on it reassembles. It's actually like it was. It's holds molecular structure different and when the way it looks at what he look it up academy. Looks like a movie weirdo. So i like to terminator two that metal guy on there. It kind of looks similar to that but actually it actually just like the roswell stuff did but crop it out and let it go and reassembled us go back to talent was so that's what this is but it looks very unique also in one can look that up. It's called metallic glass. It's very interesting you know but it's something that comes out to the seems like i only heard engineers talk about you. Know they say you can order an amazon. You can type it in on amazon or you some metallic glass what would what would we at for you. Tell me now you tell me. What are they using it for you know and but will we look at what some of the things that were relaid concerning that cry cut crashed and i kind of steer away from talking about the roswell thing. Because it's so overdone to me but when you actually look at the real the reports that something popped up in our technology that appears to be similar you know for me it would be. I saw one of these crafts. Something that looks similar to quasi crystal technology and also some type of fiber optics that was connected within also. So we're dealing with something that's just you know it's it's different. It's almost we're dealing with the might be more of a neurological nervous system for some type of craft. I love that sir. Beautifully and nervous system again. Something that has the ability to think to move to Make decisions on its own with or without quote unquote occupants. Let's get into some of the materials you now you you brought up the crystalline sort of aspect The fungus are fun guy When we talked about this off line a a week or so ago you brought to my attention that i never really thought about. And that is how when you think of fungus like a mushroom and the possibility that that organism may be used the technology that even lives within the fungi the we see growing on trees and the grass may be used to power some of these craft and i immediately thought of shitaki mushrooms. What do they look like. Is that the melanin dominant mushroom dart in in that one. Or is that the chain guy the tropic fungus. I'm not a mushroom aficionado. But i'm just talking about the shape of and how they resemble what we have come to know as our classic flying saucer. We talked about that the other day john next semester. If you will well there's four. Four way component as it was related to me by these being step is was on. The ship is on. One is dealing with metals that are from planet status devoid of van allen belts and atmospheres and a type of radiation solar radiation. They observe absorbed absorbed. Whatever son is unlike anything. I think we know here that combined with the type of crystalline technology crystal crystallography that similar to quasi crystals. What i'm seeing are science starting to breach breach right now. Okay along with a fungal component. And it's like a mushroom type of fungus component included with dna from the crew and that accounts for how the dna is symbiotically connected to the craft itself and also in some way in terms of can energy are hours or gone energy or the power sources. Well so but that's the fungus part this the component that makes this as they explained it to me. This compound is then grown in space over what we call black hole which i think really when talking to people like rudy sealed said. I've gotten the data from the black holes and actually read the data from the observatory's and dealt with that the black holes are not at all what we think they are. But that's also differ discussion so but anyway they're grown over these grown over these and that's why the engine itself is what we will call temporarily displaced. Why somebody who's on board with his craft physically. Like i was gets very sick. This temple affiliation the closer. You get to that engine. That's one of the affects kind of like a top alert of some sort. I don't know but anyway does that. Answer your question concerning the Part of it. But when dealing with when dealing with this and that being organic component of the craft itself as a space organism when it comes to planet light earth it will have a symbiotically it with the planet through the tree system. And you know it's funny. You see them weird movies years ago like avatars taking dropping little stuff about trees in that way but in reality these craft that organic they would deal with the tree system like the internet and you can see that on this planet by looking at the relationship. This symbiotic relationship. The trees have with mushrooms. Right now it's very obvious and more things than that without going too far. I've talked a little bit about the deep biosphere of the earth. Will we get away from admiral byrd thing and kinda go more into scientifically what's been discovered the deep biosphere of earth that contains like ninety five percent of the earth's bacteria that's been discovered but it's like an ocean don there so if you have a craft that is alive and you see these going into the ground. As often reported not just craft going into mountain craft going into the ground and doing. Where are they going into water to. That'd be a perfect way. Us ussl's but these are ways that they could be communicating also. So we have to get more into organic component when dealing with a living craft and we'll go further into that if you want what i think it's like to on board one. I want to get into that. I want to get into that for sure. But i definitely want to comment on the this idea of symbiosis that you bring up that i for the time of felt I as i've said sort of euphemistically we have we have skin in this game. Meaning that there. And i don't know that i even understood the the the degree to which we may have skin in this game or the planet. Could it be that these. I don't wanna say are just feeding off of the planet and its natural ecosystem but maybe using aspects of terra firma here to pass our create even and sustain what we call these organic craft not just the mushrooms. The fungi the trees You know the are very magnetic field. Electromagnetic field and us as also another source of mag- magnetic energy it seems like every natural part of this planet including us somehow plays into what they're able to pull off. Am i hearing that right. Yeah i mean. I was going more where in the deep biosphere. It's called the dark microbial a microbial matter what they're calling those that bacteria industry interesting because i've taken that and try to kind of tie that to what's actually in the black holes himself as far as life energy itself but When dealing with the planet. I think what you're describing and also thinking about the inertia drag frame. The planet produces that makes something called closed. Time like curves something that. They're obviously using manipulating the time fields on this planet for their benefit as far as accessing our timelines and a lot of talk about that right now being mandela effect which really technically be time shift is what people are feeling and it. Is there some part of the universe. That is editing timelines editing. The time line where two different timelines actually flow from like a core matrix a core part. Where do they where does it come from. And when we start feeling these time shifts in this type of feeling notice how they actually time at its would was united talked about they kind of coincide with solar activity extreme solar activity which we started labor. Yeah people start hearing buzzing. Start getting days out. Do some of us are aware of the small time markers that indicate edits in our timelines. Something's wrong if you really look at the you're taking this you taking this to a whole 'nother level would and you know i. I always say beginning. Let the conversation gore needs to go. We started talking about century. You're connected now. We're talking about the editing of the day to day reality that we are living. I'm gonna stop again. Because i keep getting hearing my voice coming through your speakers i tell you what folks. We're gonna take a quick break. Because i need to go run and get some headphones because i keep getting feedback here. So let's take a quick break. Add on the other side of this. We're going to go deeper into effect time. Shift time line at thing. Be right back when you start to ask the question it unfolds fabric of space itself. How it's made. What is it made of. We're not alone in this unit. Reuss we never have been alien. Intelligences have cohabited with us on this planet millions of years. We inherited this position from the under nineteen. Anyone that's still thinks that we're the ones that have says we're gold does not know enough about the truth tree of our species how we came to be here and the conditions that brought us here. We are not unique this universal except issues which we offer to say the copies of them Hello all right. Y'all we're back. We're going to try to fix this. We hope we fix this little echo problem. You know. we're dealing with technology so again bear with us. Hopefully you're not hearing anything on your side. Now let's get back to the juice. So we've kind of morphed from these craft tended to from one aspect of this enigma to another. Now we're talking about you way to go into this a little bit more. This idea of time. Editing time shifting jumping timelines and some of the physical symptoms particularly of late. That made that we're feeling that may be indicating that this is going on now. Y'all have heard me talk about the ear buzzing allah the white noise in the ears. Which many of you have such a alexa. i'm having it to. Are you intimating berry that these are all connected including The sort of a radic son Activity that's been going on lately and how this all folds together. yes yes. Yeah you've got you've got to two factors involved with that. One is the time control technology that truly in the private sector on this planet in many countries. That's very real. We don't pay attention to that until it comes into the housing lean that now explained meal system. Explain that for me for the audience. What what do you mean when you say that. Time control technology and things such as for example. Dr ron mallett from connecticut. He tried to make a time device that involved using lasers to do was called soup propagation of data which is basically sending super luminol a propagation of data which is sending data backwards in time. That's something that they're they're trying to do right now. So that's very much real all right now we start dealing with anyone that might be trying to mess with timelines and send information into the past. That's one possible way. Rather it's by morse code or whatever and then you've also got things that are time reactors and different types of time technology that's been made and produced that just we don't know about because it's not in the in the house yet in the mainstream but some of these appropriate effects that would be similar to people like that are sensitive can pick up. They'll be similar to Days like a type of doppler effect. That's just one of the things. So that's one that's one possible. That's one time issue. We have and discos into also what are a lot of extraterrestrial contacts. I've talked about. Which are you have certain. Instances that are trying to go back into the past and change the timeline trying to change the history that we're going through now now. Let's take that and combine this with natural phenomenon that all the time the time. Line the time streams they may run coexisting instead of being are alternate of the stuff. I think they're coexisting but they come from somewhere there or or the origin in the universe. Where does the time come from. And there's something in there that is also doing these time it's like perhaps they'll say like that woman star tour says kind kinda good with her. She talked about the thought there was a nuclear. War has happened here. And there's a time. Editing keeps going back again and again and this that that'd be a time at like a reset now that makes me curious and i say why because my personal experiences i as many experiences. I'm sure have asked these beings telepathically what's going to happen in the future and you know they never tell me anything. Never get any visions but they would show me the past and say what's not going to happen again to the splendid so the bad things have happened here all right so is there some type of a reset in certain things happened and it keeps bringing us back to the threat of one of these maniacs creating nuclear warrior. That's coming up again and again. So is that a time edit and of us that are sensitive enough to check the time markers thinks that they're calling mandela effect right now and these feelings or like you and i talked about like he might drive by crib. You've been driving by for years and obviously is just a different color like how they change that overnight and these little weird things that your you'll pick up it's more than just i think. Celebrities is too frequently emphasized. Because you have lunch like mandela affect or the guy that sung for that group Journey when i was a kid. I remember hearing Died and an has not not not dead and these things or the guy that was on barney. Miller a goethe hurt. He was dead like two three times. A kid style for years ago admits another one other some many and not just the celebrities. I was just talking to someone the other day. And of course cynthia larssen is all over the idea of mental effect from a quantum perspective but things like What what is your side view mirror. What's the writing that's in your side view mirror on the car. What does it say objects you. Oh you mean the in the river. The when you're sitting in the passenger seat objects may be closer than they appear. Well apparently it never said may objects are closer than they appear to be things like that. Editing of words editing words in the bible the what lays down with the lamb. The what liz. Down with the lamb. I'm asking you. What are we hear. The lion lays down with the lamb. And apparently it's never okay. I gotcha you on that one. I apparently it's never been the line lays down with lambeth. The wolf lays down with the lab at the bottom line is our way too many of these to ignore and and basically attributed false memory. We've got something going on to what you're saying is that these could be those points of demarcation. Were timelines are literally being edited and change yet one that happens it seems to go in conjunction with solar activity extreme solar activity and let people start feeling feeling hearing this buzzing more feeling deja-vu more. It happens more during the solar cycle the solar activity noteworthy even Things like nine eleven that happened under certain. Solar cycle ended leave salute activity at that time. You know lynne. Mctaggart has done some extraordinary work on. Gm the effects of geomagnetic storms in terms of psychic ability. And really kicking our psychic capacity into gear versus. I think it was psychic. The receiving channel in the end the Sending channel differ depending on the intensity of geomagnetic storms at the time of geomagnetic storms and speaking a little out of school. But i think he may be honest something now. Let's bring this again back to this. These possible sentient craft coming in or will call them sent sentient entities and the time period. We're living in now. Very i talked about this before. And i'm trying to get each of my guests that are in the space to lend their their feeling about this. We're living at this time of intense. Everything including enigmatic phenomenon. Like what we're talking about. Do you feel that these line edits the presence of these craft or these entities showing up in last fourteen to sixteen months. Are these all connected. Yes definitely and and you can see the false narratives that come out behind that. I for example. One time line. I've seen for years is that You have major over several major cities employees. He's motherships show all at one time. Just a couple of minutes and it just changes thanks consciously which you have an experience like that and almost like a star trek first contact type of thing just seeing it and feeling the crafts themselves but now that's been infiltrated with is going to be a fake asian invasion alien invasion so people are dealing with that and the fact of the when we started dealing with okay the truly these craft the entities the mekos black holes as well operate the same as brainwaves as an brainwave consciousness type of way so when we are saturated especially through the mainstream with greys reptilians secret space program all that stuff. Okay which are a factor. Yes but i mean you can almost hear about and for those that are having contact there through the brain or saturated with this. It can interfere with these entities that are trying to contact you to the divine field. We are that strong definitely in projecting things. So it's just something to be aware of and i'm not discrediting. Anyone said negative encounters. I know that exists talked to many people. My heart goes out to you but we have to address the other factor of as well So yeah so do you feel that. There are warring factions between entities. Those that have benevolent intentions in those that have malevolent. Oh definitely looking at this planet. I mean this planet has every example of you have in galactically a somewhat in djelic faction that is wiped clean. Sit to the planet a place along with the criminal genetic factor that is also white clean and sit to the plant and also and the criminal genetic factor out numbers jealous by quite a bit. But the angeli those of light is just enough to keep the place going to keep it from being totally destroyed to stop from humanity as totally for fitting its custodianship a planet earth. Which i think is what is almost about to happen and trust me. There are a whole bunch of other factions. That'd be more than willing to come in here and be the custodians of this place. I'm just trying to keep it real right. This is a place where you know half the time let us. We really really met work sonus a lot especially in hypnosis is how many souls don't cross crossover here when they're fiscal body. Parishes they keep moving around the trapped here in darkness trying to jump on other people that they can perceive merged with their identified negative energy the negative behavior patterns. This is real. And that's something that you know. I hear so many people talking about oh entities in reptilians are on people. Okay maybe but they're not talking about the earthbound souls like you. And i don't cross over. There's a real problem with that here. I would dare tell you. Tell you at the earthbound spirit. Population ear is nearly as numerous as the earth as living. But i'll setup about organic craft and on britain's going somewhere on fault so i know it's not your fault i think all of these things are connected and as you as you bring in all of these elements of the largely unknown going all the way back to the beginning of the conversation that you won't hear on sixty minutes likely It's important that we cover all these things because there is a connection here as i'm listening to you bury my thought is You know the first thing. I the last thing i want to do is place blame on anyone. Entity for all of the weirdness going on but you have. We're back to this idea of this massively intelligent weather benevolent or not. Something that seems to be toying with terra firma and homo sapiens sapien and has been forever and it seems like there's even more of an uptick so it is all connected including maybe the earthbound souls in here. I while i mean well. I mean it definitely is probably here versus anywhere else. It's a problem right here on affirmative as you say but you know it's interesting because when dealing with research like Somebody that i liked a lot preston it you know he. He didn't whole thing. That was correlating you have. Oh sightings extraterrestrial encounters two cemeteries and graveyards. Talk about that. And i did a video over kind of just tell people that should check out what he's saying but then people started contacting me and telling me how many people like people saying well. I've had encounters and there were somewhat dreamlike which cannot be dismissed all right when you have a dream like when you're dealing with beings from another ditty another dimension or another universe. Their pattern of enforcement can only match us so much. Sometimes if that makes sense so the dream experience will stop somebody from having temperature facial like me. Okay do to throw up. Which insta experience altogether. I've seen people on board a craft one time twice. Actually where they're they're they look. They're not glowing but they're almost transparent there. People can kind of see through them like some of the some of the beings you can and in some physical. So it's a matter about this pattern unfoldment but guess what those people that were about to touch that engine in their spirit former dream body or energy body. Whatever people wanna call it. They weren't holding their stomach like i was. They weren't about to fall over. Like i was so that says something about the experiences that in that realm. I don't discredit those all right. So sorry yet another yet another very interesting thing but i want to go back for a minute to to the work of preston debate and this idea just craft flying over cemeteries why we can come back to what you just said because it's all important. This is like a stew of all sorts of stuff. It has to be when you're having a conversation like this berry. Don't apologize because it's that you know it's that convoluted but let's let's talk about the the the the sightings over cemeteries. What are your thoughts on. Why that is one. Is we have some of these beings. Especially i think the higher wants like i've dealt with or a higher vibration faster vibration s some of them are probably trying to get us to remember our soul life memories remember as immortal souls reincarnate here mostly devoid of soul life memories and fragmented at best. You know so so. A lot of them sel crossed over some of these crabs on these beings may be happing helping the sole energy spirit energy. And then there's the other part are their neck romance also could be conducted going on also all right so i'm keeping at one hundred what's disturbing but nonetheless someone like me okay. When i'm doing something different. I've got a client in light very deep almost data and sudden these dead people start coming often communicating with me and even assert win. They joined with the people. They'll tell you because most of the time they're they're unknown and i founded as a medium. I founded disturbing at first alexis. 'cause i can detect spirits and earthbound. Spirits are on the outside of people's energy fields. but not these that are within their discipline karnataka. People know bodies that are hiding and manifesting in negative behavior patterns. It's almost like a cognitive behavioral. Therapy thing you see it on these spirits adult crossover. It's it's it's intense. So how much of this these. Ufo's cemeteries thoughts about preston din. It ties into that as much as dark nature of it that it could be neck. Romance that are gathering dna in order to make cloned bodies. Because we're dealing with negative entities that are thought forms that can only walk around with us if they have some type of casing physical body. Now that yeah i did. The first term that came to me is simply soul harvesting. I mean we have these labels that don't even begin to describe what actually may be going on. But i you know you have to look at both you know. Living in a in a world of polarity the the spectrum of of entities that are out there with all sorts of intentions including neutrality. That which is may be considered bad or good it. Just what is what it is. Say but yeah. Wow i said i think it's probably both is probably not two separate things. We wish it were just redeeming. So many different factions. We deal with something like You know how many galaxies there are in the universe. it's trillions you know and what's coming here on the level the universal level. It's like all bets are off excel sorts of stuff going on here and this has every example being the laboratory here these weird cryptic that come out of nowhere that people see all the time then they just kind of disappear into folklore and into mythology but yet they're seeing numerous at one point. What is that you know that. That's like some species that's been brand and taken off taken away. It's very odd here. sorry we're back backdoor again at craft. What we're we're going to wind down and then move on over to the after show where we're gonna be talking a little bit more about the Not just your media mystic aspects. But we're going to talk about the pinal. Glad you learned and what you can share with our audience about how to you know. Use that innate faculty that's been shut off for so long dormant for so long. We need it now more than ever with all the shenanigans going on right so we're going to do that. Just say y'all know on the after show so please join us on the members only section. I want to say thank you because people would know that sometimes you just call me and we talked for like an hour or so and more and like this interview. Here is not cookie cutter. None of them are not something. I worry about the the interviews. I've done the seem just the same but this is information. That doesn't get address. The needs to be so unsafe. Thank you for that. Well thank you. Thank you on behalf of the audience. I hope you're getting something out of it and again. It's it's our pleasure. Were here on a joint exploration berry and is much as i love my trustee notes and i have all intention of keeping it straight narrow. I always say what did i say. Before we went on the air. Dear god let this conversation go where it needs to go for the highest good of all involved in when i say it i mean it so i certainly hope that these things i mean. Look at what we've talked about. We've gone from the mainstream reports. What that's all about The the The different world in terms of the conversations were having in terms of craft being alive in another themselves. We can always come back to that to The connection between that intelligence at our own stuff of which is large to shifting timelines and edits in and and mandela effects. It's all connected to to craft flying over cemeteries possibly and why oh connected all connected to some of. It's a little creepy. This what it is very life can be creepy right but also joyous beautiful. Let's let's get back to the. Let's close off with where we started with the sentient craft. What percentage of the craft that you feel That people are witnessing in the skies of which i'm hearing it's every several seconds at this point every seconds reported that someone saw something that they can't identify. Broadly what percentage do you feel. of these craft be organic and not your typical metal only at the mar if any of them are. That's a really good question. I would say maybe fifty percent billy and base at roughly saying that based on a lot of the time. Some of these craft or ufo's people are seeing seem to have a biological component like. Let's say such as they perceived to be almost amoeba 's of type like that or like rods appeared to me. Look a lot like if you look at it. Max maxine slow down. They look like fla jehlum. And some of these are like i think organisms that they called cosmic critters in energy energy. Zoa things like that. That can also be used by some civilization as craft but also are like looking at our sky can be like you know the pond scum through a microscope. When you see all these different microorganisms. That's what some of these may be. We're seeing an example. Giving you in our private conversation. Was the nasa tether incident. Anybody can look that up and see how this tether that came across from Come off the shuttle or something. But you see what looked like almost organisms moving around it and that takes us into also what's called the cosmic water ball theory of these waterfalls that come to earth immersed with the amino acids to create life at Scientists nine lewis. Frank talked about that quite a bit just food for thought if nothing else but it needs to lend us to. The organic component and the biological component of some of these will be seen. That could be doing that. Or the orbs or lights that people are seeing also have living component to them as well absolutely term that i recently researched Called mycosis or your phone. Which i find fascinating you know. There's some folks that are aware of this is a conversation that's happening with. Two seventy keep too broad of these these enigmatic objects in the sky that seemed to replicate with an identical object and then they follow a trajectory an synchronization. The question becomes. Is there in organic nature to to them and how they're able to do this. Is this indeed. My toes as a cell dividing replicating and becoming identical to the mother. You know very termite tosa suggest it's a biological organism. So there we go. I did a video a while ago. And i'm going to do another one now based on that word but a video that was over ship. Ufo biological reproduction has been in a room. That first of all the room was so big that it was the size of this craft appear to be on the outside one sought right and there were like two piece of technology in there. But i kept feeling like this was almost cargo bay. Were like another craft could be grown or could be harbored and we started dealing with the life form. How do they reproduce some of these. Is it a micro sus. I liked to elect that tournament her to call that. So i'm gonna roll with them. But i do video on anti it to the posco biological reproduction in almost a microorganism type of faction some of these creatures might do or but in this case. You've got also. I think entities that are putting their consciousness into these craft but if the engines displaced that means something near the engine could be a place to grow another. One of these are thought at. I did not. I didn't see a you another craft growing in there. Just had that thought why that kind of information comes through. Okay i i can see that and i don't know if it was your someone else that mentioned the russian doll idea of you know but i think we were talking in terms of dimensions where rather than i mean. We have this this image of sort of this linear framework of dimensions alongside each other dislike. Time is alongside one another. Pass his next to Present and future and so on but this nestled idea dimensions nestled one within the other suggesting that it's all grows inwardly meaning that the craft could grow inwardly as wow throw something else out real quick. Okay something i had to deal with. When dealing with talking to some of these quantum physicists and astrophysicists like dr shields for example. Who took an interest in my experiences especially certain aspects of it and he they're not experiencers. They're strictly coming from a scientific perspective. And you know it really changed things when he started telling me you know you're dealing with something from another universe and i wanna always just say no no no. It's another galaxy. And he started laughing. He said no less kit stuff. It's not what you're describing. And that's what he started going onto. What another universal be described as and it is like no it s as right near here even the other dimensions. We have here in this. This universe are spiritual are based on a spin which is going to be like the pro time. Electron all the way to our dna's which is spiral to the galaxy's spiral planets are spiritual. This is to spend spiritual universe you dealing. With another universe it can be based on something. Different like the techie. Hot the tetrahedral or the hexagon. Like what i've seen or the cube or amorphous metals at sometimes like something like these cubes. I've seen on his craft sometimes can be a way that they're using shakes to transfer life energy god consciousness life energy from one universe to another and that says like what i saw this craft them and we talked about this on other ships. I'd made of pictures of it at have to challenge these pictures of this craft. That looked like it was metal at first and it starts looking like status over it and it turns into these was caught. Your middle america like these crystal thing floating in the sky and it really and i'll tell you what they did know some disci- but when you actually witnessed something like that it threw me for a loop amtrak's only eighteen years old. It really threw me for a loop. I mean i saw this. Somebody else was with me. They witnessed it also so that type of delusion is not shared. You know anyway anyway. Point being this craft did that. Because it's going to another universal destination in another universe. And what i was seeing was the pattern of unfoldment before it reaches his destination before it makes is frequency. Jump through this mako. This black hole thing. I mean it helps to kind of have scientific basis to figure out why and hew hot sake. Sticks had witnessed the stuff and experience it in the first place food for thought if you are not familiar with the story of jerry wills and his excursion. I believe. it's in peru linda. Moulton howe has done some extensive His talked about his story extensively. In fact on my one of my shows a jerry wills and his Shortly after being married. I'm not going to go into the whole story. This has to do with this idea of. He literally went through a door. Add not only ended up in another dimension but perhaps another universe and the voice that explained the process is the process for. Let's say broadly realities nestled one within the other. It's stunning story. And if i can find a link will certainly the linked to the conversation. I had with that linda. Moulton how i'll post out with this interview but listen. We got to wind down. Because i know at my doorbell is going to bring in a minute. We don't want that on the microphone. So i'm going to say very quickly buried. You have a website yet. First of all that folks can go to your always had very little dot com. And i it needs to be designed more. I'm not the guy for. I find the tediousness of adorable but that that has the links to my other place mother platforms on there. I do a lot of stuff on youtube. Just very little on youtube and more stuff on patriot. I do a lot of videos communication. We're gonna put that there. Because you i you know look you got so much to share with the world and bringing them up to speed you know. Go ahead and watch the mainstream reports. I think it's an interesting unfoldment to whatever degree but certainly supplement augment or maybe let this source of information take the lead To keep you really informed because we need all of the information we can get as well as experience. So i thank you for all that you do ad for sharing some of your very intimate stories with with the world. So god bless you. Thank you for that all right and as always we appreciate you journey years. How come on over and join us on patriot. We're going to continue this conversation a little bit more but if not we will see you here next week for another episode of higher journeys take care.

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Sexy Beasts

Pop Culture Happy Hour

15:50 min | 3 months ago

Sexy Beasts

"This message comes from. Npr sponsor hulu presenting the new hulu original series mccartney. Three two one. Paul mccartney sits down with music producer rick rubin to discuss his legendary music career stream mccartney three two one now only on hulu. Are there people so desperate to find a made that they would do so on tv and without knowing whether they're date is hot or not the new network stating competition shows. Sexy beast has now entered the chat and the answer is a resounding yes. Sexy beasts premise is simple contestants. Go on blind dates with one another but the catch is that everyone involved must wear oscar-worthy prosthetic makeup to conceal what they really look like underneath. I'm stephen thompson. And i'm isha harris and today we're talking about sexy beasts on hot quarter happy hour from npr so don't go away. This message comes from npr sponsor capital one with no fees are minimums on checking and savings accounts banking with capital. One is the easiest decision. Kind of like taylor swift choosing cardigan on a chilly day and with their top rated up you can deposit checks and transfer money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision that spanking reimagined. What's in your wallet. Terms apply capital one. Na member fdic. Welcome back you just met stephen also joining us. Is eric. eddings the former host of the nod with brittany and eric on qube. Welcome back eric. It's great to have you here is great to be here. Yeah and to talk about oh man. It's like why i'm here. Wow why are we here. So in the first episode of sexy beast the affable snarky narrator rob delaney poses the show central question which is could you fall in love with someone based on personality alone really asking the tough questions here so from there. It's a pretty straightforward. Dating competition show in each episode of contesting goes out on dates with three perspective love interests and whittles their choices down to two and then finally there one true match. As prevent physical attraction from tainting decision every participant is decked out in elaborate prosthetic disguises. Made to look like an animal or creature thinks a panda bear or a witch. It's kind of a cross between another one of netflix. Dating competition shows. Love is blind and the mass singer. So it's actually was filmed in the uk and is based off of a british tv series of the same name that's been adapted internationally several times and those amazing products were created by artists christian mallett who is previously worked on projects like detective pichu and mission impossible six. I think this is just a fun thing to have on his resume. It looks like But i'm sure we'll talk more about those percents at a moment eric. Let's get your initial thoughts on sexy beasts. I started out so on board with this. I love high-concept show. I love high-concept dating show. I was one of the few people who watch dating. Aac came back for the second season of dating back. So you know for sexy beast. I wash trailer. I'm super excited. And then i started watching it and the show just feels busy. I think the best way. I could describe it like there are so many things happening i have to give it up to the prosthetic artists christian mallet. Own my god. It was uncomfortable. How much. I thought a demon or a beaver or a zombie or variety of the other. Kind of concept's we're talking at me. It just made me unsettled. But then i could start to get into the actual dating but the casting agent clearly wanted and so we have this dating show super high-concept. Everyone is just doing the most but then they're also they don't actually seem on board for the dating and so it was one situations where like i'm having fun but i'm also like you clearly you you wanna get on tv but actually don't even know that this is going to accomplish that much of it because no one will remember your face to remember the fact that you talked about How the only thing you really here for is looking for someone with a big posterior earier dress as a beaver as a human the show is busy. I want to like it but no one actually seems like they're taking anything seriously so it kind of makes the whole thing feel a bit. Disjointed busy is a great word for this kind of reminded me in some ways of the show next the the grain and heavy show from the early two thousands next where people went on multiple dates. They were on a bus and then you know they would have to impress their date or they'd be sent back on the bus and whoever whoever lots of the longest was the winner except with that show. Obviously i think it's been reported and it's pretty well known that it was all kind of a setup whereas here you could question how much of it is the producers setting at us up in how much this is just the the actors themselves just wanting to be on tv. Who who knows. Steven what do you think is sexy base. So rarely has a concept this high met stakes this low. It is absolutely remarkable. How kind of much. Production value in terms of makeup is being put toward something where what happens completely does not matter the stakes of this are maybe two of these people will hook up. That is the entirety of it and as such as busy as it is. It's kind of easy to have on. Because it's just none of it means any like you have. You do have rob delaney. I'm a huge fan of rob delaney. I'm i guess. I'm now officially a rob delaney complete. I because i have watched all six episodes of this show and rob delaney. You can tell that rob delaney was kind of handed a standard silly dumb dating show script which he then punched up. Because every once in a while there'll there'll be a laugh kind of from left field you. Oh that thing that was just said was very funny. Oh rob delaney wrote definitely go for bad boys at the same time. He needs to be kind of soft and the inside kind of like a hard shell soft on the inside with a hard shell. Luckily this is the one show where a might actually meet the tortoise of her dreams. I even have a beef with the prosthetics amidst show because they are fantastically skillfully rendered but they stack the deck in their own way like the people are all extremely conventionally attractive. There is no element of the makeup. Is gonna come off and you're gonna find out maybe you're not attracted to each other if you are a conventionally attractive person who is attracted to conventionally attractive people. You're probably going to be fine with your choice. But they're sometimes choosing from among the sexy pixie the sexy leopard or the sexy corpse corpse on this show the deck even on a show that is purportedly. Oh this is taking appearance entirely out of the equation. The corpse doesn't do very well spoiler job. The jawbone sticking out of her mouth something and it doesn't take appearance out of the equation in part because all of that is being covered is their faces and not even their entire faces. So you general body shape. The guy who says ask first personality second does not actually have to choose neither is obscured but you can also see there too perfect rows of straight white teeth so this concept is so down and fortunately all of my quibbles and i do have more which we can get to san. Don't mean anything. This is a dumb kind of lightly enjoyable completely forgettable entirely low stakes dating. Show if you like that this is another one to your point about the the fact that they are conventionally attractive that to me is the biggest issue with the show and i watched all of love is blind. I was i was. I was obsessed with it. I thought it was such a fascinating experiment in granted. All those people were conventionally. I think for the most part conventionally attractive too but what i appreciate about that show is that av spend more time with these characters because with this show it is again. The stakes are so low. You know you're not going to see these people again and you're only really seeing them. Interact with each other for like four to five minutes total throughout the entire episode. and so you're not invested. You don't care who they choose like. It doesn't matter. I really do think this show is just an excuse for christian the designer to just go ape like he can go ham and this is if he gets nominated for an emmy creative arts emmy or something like that he deserves it. Because i think they're really fun to look at the really weird to look at. But i will also note that this is yet another dating show. Were they pretend. That black women in asian men do not exist like none of the people who are actually getting to choose other people who are at the center. Who are going out on a three dates. Why can't a black women be one of the people who is jesus like come on now like this is just a common issue with all these dating shows. Are you show. you've found the stakes that stays piece is brings up. What was my biggest issue with the show. And i think a release something you had mentioned before asia. It reminds me of an era of dating. Show they actually strangely. Don't make as much anymore. It's those shows without stakes at all. Like love island where it's mostly just kind of like a bunch of hot people kind of crammed together. They're supposed to be coupling up. They're supposed to be in theory working on partnership too hot to handle also on netflix. You know which is all about like not engaging each other another very high concept show. They're actually rewarded. Four trying to create real bonus or amounts of affection and push a relationship for and so like with this. I'm hype for the high concept but because they don't do anything with it to actually drive them towards some sort of actual connection it just feels a little flat. Yeah and i'm just like well. What's coming next. And love is blind there are stakes in like they do eventually kind of. You're watching them. Clumsily try have lives together. This is much closer. You guys you guys are younger than i. I'm thinking of the dating game. The app and of course shows like love connection and studs like each episode is completely free standing. It's one person choosing from among three. This is a very very standard format and the dating game you know. It's three people kind of behind the curtain and you're just hearing their voice and their answering these inane questions like well. It's the strangest place you've ever made whoopie. And and then at the end somebody pick somebody and the stakes. Are they go on a date. And then like love connection stuff. You'll hear how the date went or whatever but this is the the the level of stakes we're talking about here. I do appreciate the introduction of a woman named carousel talk. Saga about stakes. Who is dressed as a panda. And she is choosing from among three gentlemen. Carousel has really decided to one hundred percent by into this show as literally her last chance to find love she is twenty four years old and has basically come out here like tech talk literally the future. She was the. Why did i choose. Go wrong husband. No one else is concerned. She's also a believer title. Is party motivator. Because i have encountered some dating show professions that equate to professional hot person. Like not like a model is a professional hot person but a person whose job is to be hot and then just go through life. Carousel is a is a professional party motivator and if she does not find the correct husband sexy beasts she will die alone. I think she should have just been on the bachelor because that would have been more her speed if that's what she's trying to do bachelor bachelorette myriad of farsight. Yeah seriously because she loves the concept she understood the assignment but she she was for the wrong show not her last chance. I don't think this is carousels. Last reality show twenty four. There's a there's a long list of options wash out of sexy beasts. There's just a laundry list of things to choose from with equally horrible partners. A couple of the last things i will say is that there were moments. Were i appreciated. The canberra some of the contestants Although you could chalk it up to them being sort of sore losers there were a couple of people who after they weren't picked they were like yeah. I didn't really feel a connection. Either and i get it. I wanna say. I might be a little too harsh on the show. I think if you are the type of person for whom the first date is the biggest hurdle then. I think this is a show. That could be actually really finding interesting for you because your concern is not what comes after just getting over that but if you actually care about relationships and how mad had maddening they can be. And how like wild they can be this leaves you very stunted but you'll find that out quick and if nothing else the man those prosthetics i will see those in my dreams. Well if you watch it we want to know what you think about. Sexy base find us at facebook dot com slash p. c. h. h and on twitter at pch. And that brings us to the end of our show. Which was so fun to do with you. 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The Mothman

True Mysteries of the Pacific Northwest

03:23 min | 1 year ago

The Mothman

"Welcome to hidden history. I'm your host kid chrome. Sometimes this podcast isn't so much about hidden history as it is about aww forgotten event and that's the case. Today's podcast the moth man. The town of point pleasant is located in West. Virginia is a county seat for Mason County County population of about forty five hundred. The town isn't without its history though. Mark Twain grandparents called quite pleasant home as did kid kid pros who in nineteen forty came up with the design for the cheat and one of the last confederate generals John Closely and made his final Home there and died a Grimm's landing in nineteen twenty seven when you enter downtown point pleasant. You can't miss that twelve foot statue. The moth map the first off man side was by five men digging graves the cemetery and Clendenin West Virginia. Not far from point. Pleasant wasn't the date was November. Sixteenth nineteen sixty six. The next sighting of what was described as a man with giant wings of blood. Red Eyes was reported reported to the sheriff by two couples. Roger and Linda scarberry and Stephen Mary Mallett who said it followed their car that November number. The point pleasant register printed an article titled Couple Seaman Size Bird Creature or something. The national press picked up on the story and spread it across the United States of their sightings flooded into the sheriff's office including from to volunteer firemen with the sightings. Came Trad Pity after nearly a year of reported sightings and point pleasant on December Fifteenth Nineteen Sixty Seven. The silver bridge collapsed killing forty six residents in Russia. A Moscow sighting of the moth man was attributed to the nineteen ninety nine bombing of a large apartment complex. In point pleasant alone there for over two hundred reported sightings was similar descriptions. The moth man was also cited in the United Kingdom Germany France and Ireland. The interesting in fact is that all the sightings have nearly the same description unfortunately the sightings are often related to tragedy and from this emerged. John John Keells book the Moth Man Prophecies followed by the movie in Two Thousand Two starring Richard Gere titled The Mothman Prophecies But like like bigfoot flying saucers aliens the moth man despite many reported sightings from half a dozen countries and upstanding citizens with no ambition ambition for fame or financial gain or dismissed by skeptics while the original side of the Mothman comes from a region known as the Ohio Valley and are often written off as imagination poorer under educated a religiously superstitiously influenced individuals many of the sightings in Chicago. Oh the UK. Germany France Russia in Ireland can't be so easily dismissed. Mothman was produced here of nine dollars sound studio and brought to you by the rogue. Oh golly metaphysical library and I'll cabinet riders getaway at AL CREEK CABIN DOT com. Check it out. I'm kid crumb. Thanks for listening.

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#24 Malle partage son exprience du polyamour - Partie 1 (FR)

Entr'Nous

29:39 min | Last month

#24 Malle partage son exprience du polyamour - Partie 1 (FR)

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Redraft Values, Sleepers & Busts - Rookies

Stealing Signs

14:22 min | 1 year ago

Redraft Values, Sleepers & Busts - Rookies

"All right everybody thanks. It's great to hear you. I'm sitting here with Justin. Our prospect expert. Are Pseudo Scout. The Guy who gets out there goes to the fields checks it out actually creates vacation plans around Minor League player Games So He's here tonight and I'm here tonight to really talk about the things that fantasy reputations are made of and that is picking the right rookie. You're the one who picks the guy who puts you over the top. You own that forever. And it's a great feeling and so we're here to help you out tonight and figure that out so just ready to do this yes I am all right beautiful so I think we're going to talk about the top contributor. This is the player that we think is really has the potential to be rookie of the year. Who's going to really contribute to your team. And if you put the money down you're going to get at least that money back or maybe even a little more and I'm going to start. I'm going to talk about Gavin locks. I love this. Guy is a middle infielder for the dodgers. Plenty of opportunity for him to play. He's going to be playing in a lineup. That is stack. He's got a phenomenal makeup. He's been success. What every level. The dodgers themselves is just as successful team and check out these numbers in the minor leagues. Last year. He had a three forty seven batting average. He had a one point. Zero two eight zero P. S. twenty. Six home runs in one hundred and thirteen games and Justin. This guy has a great fucking name. So obviously he's going to rake right totally on On par with that. I've read chase oily like comps on him and I. I don't think it's too far fetched. I think that he's absolutely going to be a five category contributor You know you touched on the. He's got a he's got that pop you know. But he's also got some speed there and I think that he's going to be a hell the number two header in one of the most potent lineups in the NFL. Actually in one of the most potent lineups in baseball if not the top top team. Maybe didn't make it to the number two whole his rookie year but ultimately he will be in for Drafting Dynasty Leagues. It's a long haul that we're looking at all right. So who do you have? Who Do you think is the top contributor this year? Who's GonNa come in and could be a rookie of the year? You know I'm going with the Shaun Murphy. Yeah call me a homework because I'm an as sky but His defense is going to help them play in his debut last season he slugged five sixty six. Which isn't a joke. For catcher. I think that you can expect to fifty ish average. Maybe around fifteen home runs fifty. Rbi's and fifty runs. Those are some pretty stout numbers I think. The as have pretty underrated offense themselves. Mashing in there with the Metal Senate and Matt Chapman and see what semi-in can do in Murphy's going to be right in there but Big reason why I think that Murphy is going to be the top contributor in my ice is that catchers so thin murphy is the only rookie. I can think of being a top twelve at his respective position if he slid into the backing of like a top ten top. Twelve at that position. I think that that's realistic forum. That's why he's my top contributor. Beautiful the luck of the Irish just in time for Saint Patrick's Day you go ahead and draft Sean Murphy and have yourself a good little season right. Yes so let's move onto the value. Pick so this is a pick that we think you're going to be able to get this player or a low price. And is that this players going to provide good value for that price other words at or above what you pay for them. Who Do you have Justin? Prospect with your Oriole's Ryan Mallett Castle. You'RE GONNA be able to draft him for next to nothing. Plays it First base like catcher is a relatively top heavy position. Their kid I think he really figured it out last season. Aaa think that he's going to be able to give you a two seven the average. He's going to give you some pop. I think that above average bat with above average pop you know with an eighty P of Gush three hundred. You're not going to get much more than that right out of Out of a week position so the opportunities there for him Baltimore Right. There's there's nobody really blocking him of any significance right. Yeah I mean there are thoroughly in rebuilding mode guys like Ryan Mallett Castle emitted. They really WANNA see what. This kid has in two thousand twenty. You know you might not have the protection but if you're willing to take a gamble on a guy late King Ryan. Mallett castle has a chance to be the top contributing rookie first baseman this season. That's great and it's interesting. I how so have a first BASEMAN has value pick? And I'm picking Evan White his a first baseman the Seattle Mariners Organization. And look this. This kid's got a Polish Bat. He knows how to put the bat to the ball hit tool his carrying tool and in my opinion. If we're still playing in the live ball era if he can put back to ball he's going to have some some good impressive power numbers now. This kid has spectacular defense. They say that at first base that he could actually be a gold glove winner in his first year in defense always plays right so it plays into opportunity. No one's trying to figure out. How can we put him into the game? He can actually play their his numbers in the minors. Last year he had a to ninety three batting average. Eight thirty eight Opie s and he had eighteen home runs and in my opinion this guy and get the end ear draft you can fill him in and it seems like the Mariners are actually going to give them a chance to play. I think he's a good value. Pick EVAN WHITE. Very Vanilla Pick. I know but that's that's where I'm at right now. You know as you mentioned the playing time it's absolutely going to be there You know the mariners are also in a rebuilding mode. I think also you shouldn't discount the six year twenty four million dollar contract that the mariners gave him right. I think that That solidifies fact that he's going to be their first basement of short term and the long term I think We're going to be seen in. Heguo ballplayer out of that and why. I think you're right in line. Let me move onto bust and I might surprise some people with this pick but I think Lewis Robert is a bust. He's going to be a bust this year. Now look this guy is absolutely loaded from a from a potential talent perspective. So the good is that you know last season to season the miners. He had thirty. Two home runs. You had thirty six stolen bases yet at three twenty eight batting average. I mean this seems like Mike Trout of the Minor Leagues Right. He's going to be playing in a lineup. That is again. I think this lineup is loaded. I think the opportunities areas got his new contract so clearly. They're not going to hold him back. And this kid looks like a beast. I mean he is big and he is fast now. But there's some bad I have I have three bad points. Plate dismissed disciplined plate discipline plate discipline he swings at the off speed stuff too much and I think the major league pitchers are gonNA eat him alive. I think he's GonNa get put down into the lineup. He may even go down to the minors just to work on that off. Speed stuff so my my advice is stay away from Luis. Roberto I Wholeheartedly agree with that Everything that you mentioned in addition to the unfavourable ball played discipline that you would like possibly more worrisome is actually his swinging strike rate and missing on pitches inside the zone. Yeah he has been a worse than average in every single season in his in his minor league career. As we mentioned with white you know we did sign that contract so high probability we see him right now but yeah. I just really expect to a very rough batting average. He's going to connect on a few of them put. Gosh you know I'm seeing. Adp around the eighth around and that is just. That is not happening well. I'm glad you agree with me. So far we've agreed with each other all the way through. So that must mean we're right right absolutely so who you got as your bust this year so I'm actually taking my bus to the north side of Chicago and I'm Pickin a middle infielder Nico Corner so The thing that You know advising listeners. To stay away from is really just the the cubs brand Nico's first round draft pick pedigree You know the thing that I dislike about him. He really doesn't have a stand out to you. Know I think he might be able to give you an empty to eighty batting average. I mean Which really isn't all that we might be able to Give you double digit home runs. Maybe some double digit steals. But I mean at this point Middle Infield in baseball That's a power position second base and shortstop both stacked. I think if you take the name and you know the team away from Nico Horner's numbers at the end of the season you're going to be looking at waiver wire fodder wondering why you even pick this guy up. So essentially what we're saying is we're bust on the windy city young players this year right. Yeah and that's Possibly from My my Saint Louis roots dodging on the cubs. There wasn't good but yeah I legitimately think Nico Horner really isn't somebody that That I'm interested in okay. So beautiful now. We brought all of our fans from Chicago down in the dumpster. Probably not even listening to us now but Let's let's turn around. Let's let's end this Many episode on sleeper. Who Do we think as someone that won't that lot of people don't know about but is actually going to give a lot more in value than what they're actually going to be drafted at you know? I think people are sleeping on. Show adults Minor League teammate Brandon Marsh. I think that you know pending some playing time. Yes and putting them in the sleeper category. Because he's obviously not overtake trout. Joe Adele's show Adele. Justin Upton is is over there in left field and I think that Anaheim's excited about his prospects. I think you're really showed that he figured some things out in two thousand nineteen he was right in there for the MVP of the year. Zona Fall League this past season with three twenty eight batting average. He did that following a an even three hundred batting average and AA on the guys always been lauded for his F- lettuces. You know he's not just Contact guy he's had consistent walk rates over ten percent in each of his minor league stops. You know he's been able to elevate the ball a little bit more He's a eclipsed a thirty percent fly ball rate This past season which means that on his hard hits or finally going to be going over the fence and I tell you what I think we're going to be looking at a two eighty average with twenty home runs fifteen stolen bases and with that Left handed swing six foot. Four two fifteen. That reminds me of lots of Marlins Christian Yelich. Oh my okay. Wow So I love it. So this is you've got some strategy right. Everybody's looking at a Dow and you're saying look no one's GonNa pay for Marsh. Let's ahead this way. I love it. That is exactly what sleepers all about. I think Mars can really make some late. Pick drafters very happy about it. Beautiful great I mean as always. I love the homework is put in this. You're looking at fly ball rates. You're really going into the numbers and I think that's fantastic. So my sleeper. You mentioned Saint Louis is Dylan Carlson. I mean this I love this kid. He's a switch hitter who obliterated the technically Texas League last year it. He did it really young for the levels that he was playing at. You know he's he's pretty good from both sides of the plate or he's excellent for both sides of the plate. He's a little better from the left side of the plate which I think will help him his numbers last year. Twenty six home runs a two hundred batting average a nine fourteen. Ps There's a lot of opportunity in. He's got a win it. I mean there's the they have their outfield slots filled. But I think there's opportunity for him to win a spot out of spring training or if not definitely soon after and then just sprinkle in the intangibles I mean. The cardinals seem to have this. Pixie dust with outfield prospects. That just able to somehow develop these players and the system must be solid right. Yes and then the last piece is this kid is from elk. Grove California and it scenarios produced MO MLB players. Dustin Pedroia Rhys Hoskins Buck Martinez Fernando Vina. That's just to name a few so there's something about this kid that tells me go ahead and drafted him. He's GonNa do good. This guy's going to have a long Major League playoff career or issues. This guy's going to have a long major league baseball career and I think he's going to give you way more value than what you have to put down for him so do it and yeah plan with the cardinals. He will Have many seasons in the playoffs. You're right about that. We'll just said this was fun. We're GONNA do this All throughout the season. We'll take different. Perspectives we'll look at maybe deep dynasty leagues. Will we go? And maybe we'll take a look at the Caribbean or Central America. We'll also have an opportunity to share with listeners. A notes we actually. You actually go out. And you're seeing the games and I know you like to do your own scouting reports and I think what we're GONNA do for the stealing size. Listeners is really share that with them so what do you say you're GonNa do this again? Absolutely all right brother great job. This has been fun. It's been really good doing this with the end we'll talk to. Y'All soon always is Celia.

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August 30 2021 - Vanni Sartini (Whitecaps Interim Head Coach), John Shannon (NHL Insider), Arpon Basu (The Athletic)

Sekeres & Price Show

2:52:41 hr | 2 months ago

August 30 2021 - Vanni Sartini (Whitecaps Interim Head Coach), John Shannon (NHL Insider), Arpon Basu (The Athletic)

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I don't know what can outy downtown vancouver at the corner of berard in second busy weekend on the local fronts with plenty to unpack not to mention a bombshell. Lightning bolts out of the national hockey league. A gift from the gods. It really it really know weekend series. No come on. Carolina could've tabled this on a monday. Yeah but i'm not sure it's any news value so we always say offer sheet so like santa clause and the easter bunny. You may hear about the but nobody really sees them well. We saw them release one hard to miss it. Yes when the week. Health teams are where the carolina hurricanes extend middle finger and a poison pill to the montreal canadians offer sheet sperry kotkin ame a six point one million dollar one year offer and then a press release. That is nearly letter similar or letter. Exact to the montreal canadians released when they offer she she'd unsuccessfully sebastian although the finding hurricane centerman last year now. I'm not necessarily sure. This is the most strategic offer sheet from the carolina hurricanes who have had a very odd offseason. It must be set. You won't buck up for a right shot. Norris caliber defensemen in dougie hamilton. You won't buck up for a young goaltender. Calder trophy nominee alex new belkevich. But now you're going to buck up for a guy who was being a healthy scratch playoffs for the montreal. Canadians granted a former third overall pac. Who has the makings of a nice to a centerman but blake is very alchemy is not worth six point. One million this year and is not going to be worth six point one million next year let alone plus the qualifying offer so you tell me what the long term play is here for tom. Dundee don with dell in the carolina hurricanes other than just to crack back at the montreal canadians. It's not because this is a good team on the cusp of greatness In the national hockey league no they think they can steal a prospect here effectively although they're paying a handsome price to do so they are making a huge bet. They are betting that in the right system. Yes berry cockney emmy can flourish this season. You're right based on precedent and how contracts negotiated he won't be quote unquote worth six million next year either but he could have the stats that befit. A six billion dollar player. Could he be a fifty five point player this year. Yeah i think is possibility. It's a gamble. I'm not saying he will be but is it possible. Yeah i think he can be a fifty five point player this year in if all the planets i mean blackie was twenty. Point player lasts for granted and abbreviated season. Yeah he was the thirty four point player as a rookie playing seventy nine games. He had as many goals in the playoffs. Those he didn't the regular season he did. He had eight points. Nineteen playoff games for the half. So that's near half point per game. Let's remember the year before. He was demoted to the american hockey league blake. Yup so yeah. I fail to see the big picture here. In twenty four it'd be fully of course at twenty one. They're betting that speed bumps of a really young kid selenium upside and he's got a to a profile. And all that i get it but i i mean i. I don't see carolina resigning him next but of course there. He's he's club control next. You know i understand that but you got to qualify him at six point one. Yeah but you don't make this move to walk away from the player after you just forked over six million dollars to them. Not making this move for the one year. I mean in what world. Okay you shop you potentially. You're starting goaltender union. Backup for one of the best rate shot defenseman of the game. And now you're gonna buck up for a hopefully third-line center not pedigree goaltender. So that's that's Pedigree i mean. It's called her trophy nominee. But he's older. He's i mean he's not a third overall. No if you wanna go as for hamilton. I mean dougie. Hamilton dougie held he rubs teams the wrong way all the time. I'm gonna chalk it up to that. Yeah i stopped the first team that has walked away from. Yeah dougie hamilton. Despite how good a player isn't particularly the analytics on dougie hamilton. Nidal alka vich. Twenty five years old and was high second round. Pick twenty fourteen again. Kotkin hammy the third overall selection of the funny cap friendly's the on the roster of the carolina hurricanes while and of course the haves by matching this would be exceeding their l. T. i limit even so. This is going to be a very difficult contract for the habits to match. And it's the first and third round. Pick which i know probably feels really crappy. If you're mark berge had turned the third overall in two thousand eighteen into what is likely going to be a late. I doubt and a third. But i think that's the way you're going to have to go and it might end up being decent value cockamamie doesn't pan out if he's a five goal tennis guy and that's just what he is hope he's more of that but if he's a twenty thirty point guy this year. Yeah you're probably probably weren't going to get that for him. No in a trade so we'll discuss today at four o'clock with john shannon or monday. Nhl inside of the former executive producer hockey night in canada. And the co host of the bob mccowan Podcast we'll also talk with our friend. Or upon bass sue in montreal. He's the french editor of the athletic. Let let can never say latte technique can never get the floors of the athletic d.c. Yes my Chemical tongue is failing me there Anyways he covers the montreal canadians. And we're also gonna talk. We're any day now before the national hockey league and the p. a. announce olympics are no olympics. Right whether or not we lock in this vancouver canucks schedule with the olympic break or whether we are going to a revamped schedule because the nhl players are not participating in the winter olympic games in beijing china next year every insider his end her. Selene pushing the opinion to the point where it's going to happen. The olympic agreement will happen. That seems to be the prevailing wisdom. I sure hope they're right because it was greatly missed in two thousand eighteen. Npr chang is a very soccer schedule as the case. Because they're doing the all-star game hell or high water the all star games happening. So it's it's apparently you know go to vegas compete in the all star game compete lower casey And and then fly to beijing. I as i say each and every time the topic gets brought up outside of the greedy thirty now. Thirty two governors around gary stable. There aren't many people who are against nhl players at the olympic games. I can think of one group tuesday. i'll bring it up in. Gets the olympic experience different girls. I'm going to save it. Say and save up wherever we all whitecaps. How many wins have they had in franchise history better than that one partner. Four one they annihilate rail salt lake at bc. Place still singing stand by me. And they debut of interim coach vani sir teeny who we're going to have on the show here at three thirty twenty minutes time next block. If you're listening live who is one of the most good natured easygoing. Infectious human beings. I've ever been around. He has got a real talents in dealing with people. Benny thirteen. he's impossible the dislike and i. I'm sure after you hear them at three thirty. We did a A wednesdays with with a couple of years ago if you were called yeah up in advance of a match bc place. I mean he is just a dear dear man who you want you want him to do. Well and boy did ryan goal than those whitecaps. Go out and play with their hair on fire. In the second half say the caps released on social media the day sort of formed a circle before they to sing. Stand by me They had little staff meeting the center of the pitch and they released the audio and video of of any talking to the players. Yeah and You know he said don't bark was like this too. I think as well. They're very lovey dovey a on the. There's a lot of feel. This feels and vani continued that in. And you know what i think. The caps wanted that to continue. Like i think there was some tactical concerns with regards to mark to santos a stewardship but the feels part. I think they're good with that. And i think they like the fact. That danny is seamless in that regard. And you know you see the the players again. The stand by me stuff is is indicative of this to they are. They have bought into that climate to that atmosphere. Sure in the dressler vancouver and so happy to be in front of their own supporters and and happy to have it is for difference maker gold ever seen so much. And you know the other thing if you're the caps you want this to continue with all the fields because what are we discussed friday. How many weeks for vancouver whitecaps. Fc over the last few years have started with us coming on to a talk show blake and saying great win for the caps. How about the energy at bc. Place look at the attachment between players coaches and the supporters. Boy they got something going on. Not many. that's how a week ago as what we were saying. And then on. Friday the negativity and i realize a lot of the supporters particularly the hard cores had been waiting and hoping for a coaching change. But anytime you fire coach you are. You are signalling to your public. It is typically. there's always a bit of a negative connotation right. 'cause you're dismissing firing terming all those words somebody who has been a leader it is a heck of a gamble from the ownership of the caps and axel schuster but if it works out with anne thirteen at the helm you could have quite a story here. Because he's an easy to root he's interim right and so that talk would go a has. He earned the big whistle as he earned the job. We're gonna ask. I'm gonna ask them about three thirty Prowl how how long's he there for. Well no. I'm going to ask him three thirty like. Do you consider this an an audition like do you think you're a legitimate candidate to be the next head coach. Hoover whitecaps so so far. So good unbeaten and nine in mls play in the leagues. Were seeing expansion club coming up. They're sitting on a playoff spot. Everything's looking great whitecaps and for all those that were in support of the mark santos moved many of them were like i know their unbeaten in eight but the only got three wins in that stretch. Funding what does to change the ratio. They get one more win all of a sudden it's four zero and five in the last night. That sounds like a pretty good run. A heck of they beat the worst team in the conference. Or one of in in austin five. Oh five i think amy team would take a five. Oh in five stretch over ten games switching gears the bc lines defense has not had a bad quarter since the first half opening week in regina if they get another win colossus job on defense by the british columbia lions who. Let's face it go in. Our nation's capital are really struggling red flags often but treat them as such. Don't give them any oxygen and auto is a good early drive in that. Football game is driving around Listen to our friends. The mortgage and giulio on am seven thirty. Auto is a pretty good lengthy drive early in that football game. It results in a field goal and from that point forward. The leo's really drop the hammer on them. They get an interception. They force a fumble jordan williams. That canadian linebacker you can see why traded up to get him first overall a couple years ago that guy can ball. Bola combo's looking like this guy shipping. Starting for years. I was never athletic ability. Oh the pride of abbotsford but he stepped in and done very well michael riley with a very efficient game three hundred yards passing touchdown in there and then how about the canadian receiver john toy. They lose ryan's early in the game toys. Force into the action a makes five catches for ninety three yards and a touchdown. I was a little concerned about the lines defensively at the beginning of the year because i went boy. Canadian starting linebackers one of which doesn't have a ton of experience with the twelve game lots of newcomers on the d. line. And then here's the other thing the head coach with the dual portfolio blake as defensive coordinator. I'm never really a fan of that. Even if the head coach is going to take strong hand on one side offense defense appointed coordinator have the coordinator do the coordinating work. And then have oversight as the head coach. That's not the issue. The case with the leo's campbell is both the head coach defensive coordinator. That's his background. You're doing a heck of a job shoutout. Rpr boy ryan phillips coach in the secondary because they've been magnified. You're a bit of a whiz though. If you're a bit of a savant with with the with one side of the ball i could understand. You feel like you can do it in your sleep. You just you're so caught in your in your systems and what. You're asking your players to do that. You don't feel like your attention is split. And if that's the case for i mean the proof will be in the pudding ultimately but early returns defensively for the lines are are pretty good. Offense looked to two hundred six net yards. Yeah and the offense was palatable again wasn't it wasn't spectacular it was palatable and maybe for the first time this year it was palatable so if they can if that's the building block and they can look a little bit more palatable on a week to week basis. Maybe this is a defensive juggernaut that we didn't really while we couldn't afford cast two years. Yeah the bad news. Is there on a by sort of almost want to keep the momentum going the good news is they get ottawa at home again next at bc. Place not this weekend but next weekend and Blake macho camacho. Her perfect three for three kicking the field goals like we were ready for another year of all my god. The kicking with the leo's this year. They fixed it in one fell swoop with camacho. We're gonna have to get on the show at some time anyways. nice victory yes for Few shouts here and thank yous before we get into the blog. Poll question and get you the rest of the rundown first of all. Thank you to our friend. Al christmas and up at the whistler golf club the arnold palmer designed whistler. Golf club went up yesterday morning and played with al and a couple of his friends shadow to jefferson franken. Lovely lovely day on the links there. The conditions are magnificent and Gorgeous drive up you know as the sun is coming up. Blake hitting the water in the mountains. Just so So thank you guys for putting up with me on the golf course yesterday. The other thing we should tell them and this broke on friday. We didn't get to it. Then but our friend rich seymour and everybody at the nine o'clock gun company has the sa- in pricey. Yes and p hats available now you can go to nine. Nine o'clock gun spell out nine. Oh clock gun dot com and you'll see the secure some price collection. They're under hats. They have the mad hatter they have the black cat they have the new j pat with a royal blue and he's a curved brim as well price. 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But i will soon upon request all right. Let's get to the bulldog poll question. Raskin you are. You scared of middle east pederson offer sheet. Hey it's very cami. Fine player is not only. As patterson patterson is available for offer sheet as our rasmus stallini defensemen in buffalo Chronic the defenseman in detroit bathurst sin and chuck ottawa. Robert thomas in saint louis. So you've got some interesting players who were available there on offer sheet. I'm not necessarily sure we're opening the floodgates on offer sheets with this canea emmy business. But it's an interesting format in that you and for a lot of these players. He's talking to work because the hospital. Just find a way. They will likely match even an eleven million dollar a year contract. If you wanna get ridichio they will match that you take an underperforming prospects or one that is just a little less spectacular and overpay them. I think you cause some consternation process. I'm has wondered about the seattle cracking offer sheeting pederson. Not because they anticipate getting them but because it makes the connects life more difficult on on. Here's right yes it does. But it's a huge number of the cox would find a way. Here's here's the. Here's the guy that fits the bill robert thomas farragut player very good two way forward but a step backward last year modest. Totals twelve points on the season. Wow yeah well it's just it's a it's a last year was a little bit out liar but here is the only played three years so his along good. He was in the playoffs the year when they won the cup when they won the cup as rookie. That's his regular season was kind of just fine. It was a thirty three point season and seventy games the year after that the regular season was pretty good. Forty two points ten goals But then he only played thirty three games last year. Just the twelve points. Only three goals in the playoffs. Non-factor just three points three assists in the four games was out against vancouver. just this past dispatch class. Okay so. I can't. No one's giving up on robert thomas. No but if you come over the top like the hurricanes did on kotkin yemi. I think it would give the blues pause. I must say. I'm a little bit surprised that we've reached august thirtieth here that you've got players of this. Ilk that we just rhymed off. Still are unsigned also blake. Eichel coups nets off tarasenko. An of course evanger cain some really trade pieces to that. Were waiting on. We'll talk more and more about this as the week goes on. Dog is your source of free casino games. Poker strategy and sports odds she's the defending champion tick technically bianchi andress. Give him. she's minus two. Oh five tomorrow in her open opener. Gimme bb andrew skew. I'll lay the money to advance through the first round. Although she does sort of nervous on-court the stays. But i think she can get it done that an environment. That is very familiar and must be. You know chock full of great memories bianca and rescue tomorrow as the us open at flushing meadows is underway. Felix osceola sim is already through will watch for chevelle. Optimal layla fernandez tomorrow in his rebecca marino. Vancouver mom she's tomorrow she's today or tomorrow hoses the to them so they leyland felix But anyways a lot of can con- at the us open which is oh no rebecca's on court right now. Always against the number five player in the world so fingers crossed for rebecca marina. It's time now for the welcome mat brought to you by northlands golf. Course let's get into it. I don't know if it was malicious. Probably god but i- doodo. It was another deputy moment. My question ownership would be was worth it. And the architect and i use that term loosely. Given there wasn't much architecture more thicker painting but this team. It's like running of the bulls in tampa colona. You know someone is going to get her. That's what you all need to understand here right now. Mentioned last week that wadden three thousand was a two day experiment. And in retrospect might have been a day or two too long. But today we're capable and human aunts. It is my distinct pleasure to welcome to the garrison. Price team a longtime friend and former colleague at ten forty. Mr kurt appleby. Thanks to see you. Kerr's hey fellas. Thanks for having me. Odor kurtz been living and working in kamloops last couple of years producing and reporting for radio and l. the esteemed news talk with vaunted list of alumni including our very own jeff patterson In factory joyous couple years ago you remember the show snowbirds crush unfortunately. Yeah but take a look at or listen to what he covered here over the last couple of years. Flake in little kamloops snowbird crash elections provincial and federal fires floods yup cho vid all of the above residential schools and on the sports side. The rise of a couple of great young blazers players right connors. Airing logan stankovic both high nfl or nhl draft picks. Stanko ving didn't go as far as As high as he should exactly. We thought he'd be a second first. Rounder back to back. Yea but when you saw dallas with the two picks in the second round. I thought there's no way he's getting. I put a phone call but it's the one time i think Ownership interference I would think jim nila. Everybody in the dallas draft room went Kamloops blaser who many thought was a first round pick sliding to the second round here astute politics in the draft draft stanko van with all that news experience. Yeah we'll bring your board and we'd like you to hit buttons. That make young kids. Say ooh that's cold. That'll be the required willow kamloops but my time. There was not boring just over two years. So you know for you know medium size city small sized city but a hundred thousand people it really punches above its weight class for International national headlines. It seem like something. Every month came up where the center focus was kamloops. And the other thing is it's a federal bellwether so you typically get all the leaders I'm sure prime minister justin trudeau. I'm sure erin o'toole jagmeet singh. We'll all be through. Kamloops jug me targeting. It's already been through. I know trudeau came through three times in twenty nineteen. It was because they really they had a you know a starts. By annual exactly. Of course kurt also caught major leaguer. James paxton back in their ladner little league days not to mention as a certified umpires is going to help us out a lot on the baseball side and for us kurt. Kurt going to produce when andrew is in here like this week. He's going to produce our connects pre-game. Show anderson in one of the hosts shares. He's gonna contribute to our social media efforts and our video efforts once we move into the new studio here on wall center. Kurt i joined us back at the old station via the internship program abc. I t's first day was memorable. His near the end of the show our then producer. Rachel goldman gets in my ear. She's like we need to have a talk about the intern after the show and i was like. Oh my god. What's wrong and he do. So and then. Rachel sat me down and was like it was the best first day of any intern ever. He not only picked up everything that we taught on day one but asked if there was anything else he could contribute and of course we used to call them children of the goal right like all the insurance who came through ten forty apprenticed at the hip of rachel goldman and went onto full-time jobs. So when you've got that sort of blessing and serve seal of approval from rachel back in those days while it was only natural that he went on to do his practicum with us then board operator and eventually producing the morning. Show with bro. Jake baghdadi dave frat karen serban before unfortunately as we all have at some point getting caught up in the biannual bell. Culling of good professionals. We've all been there. You don't exist in the broadcast industry. Unless you've been let go by telecom. Sports media would fire. But we're delighted to be working with kurt again and that you believed in us and agreed to join us so thank you. Yeah it was. It was a pleasant phone call a few weeks ago matt and i think my first words were when When can i start I did a few weeks my employer at the time but Made it happen pretty quickly guys. I can't thank you enough. I've been a big fan for the. I think we're coming up on ten years here right so i've ever done. Well thank you for doing it. Cruciate welcome home. Kurt steve welcome mat for today. A presentation of northland's golf course. The north shore jewel at the base amount seymour uphill par fives downhill par threes. Survive the front nine score on the backside and you'll need three good shots to reach that eighteenth green tea times go to golf. Northland's dot com. We were there. Friday took a shellacking from gary. And steve the brain trust there will be back there. This we check their patio overlooking the city and the golf course while the weather is still nice. We're gonna get caught up there as well. Are you ready to produce patterson and wadden casino their particular right particular those guys. I'm looking forward to the challenge. They can get a little precious. Wonderful thank you kurt. Coming up danny sir. Teeny the new headman. A the vancouver whitecaps. He's got win on his resume already. Some price from wall center presentation about downtown vancouver and saturday. 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He's the interim head coach of vancouver whitecaps fc surplus. You're welcome back to secure some price. Mr vani sir teeny. I love annie. Hey how you doing very well. we're fantastic. Tell us about last night's from your perspective last night was What's amazing everything. Went to beyond probably any expectation days from the days so performance was great Three points with could goals dischord even more. The team responded fantastically so I couldn't about something more so it was really really. Did you think they heard you before the match when you were talking before the match you. Did you feel like they were absorbing what you were taking an in that moment or was there are concerned that all of the noise of the last seventy two hours. That sort of Where were you worried. I mean. I think it would be human nature just to be curious how this team was going to respond. Given the circumstances. yes. I was worried and You know all the even the team talk before the game and How we spent the forty eight hour words Let's say when are since. I got in charge. It was like tried to really tell the player that plays that we needed a response from them Their game It was nothing about coaching coach coach. That get fired. The coach the get daily in the job but more about how would the would have been stepped up the responded duster very out say disappointing performance in the old d. I would say big changes that came after debt ended responded very well so i was a little bit nervous at the beginning because i didn't know about after the first ten fifteen minutes could see that We wouldn't charge of the game in a banger. Just banney a little bit. We're going to let our attack nicole producer here see if we can get on a clear line but you don't get better. Thank you sir was my a my my airports. Were a little bit. Yeah or maybe they ever secrets Function but when i say something that is not good. They just cut the off. We'd never get on that so you yeah. Blake has a great question about you know the feeling around this club first of all your coaching development team. They're vani like were you expecting this. This huge surprise to you. Like what was your first reaction tells you i'm having you. I want you to be the new head coach and step in for mark i. I didn't expect it at all. It was a huge surprise. I was literally on the field coaching. The it the twenty three teams Oxygen came down and asked me if i was available because They were going to was what available to step up and take the team Continuing basis. I ask you. i think it might be your wife. I've any it might be your wifi where you're cutting out again Maybe you're too. We're going to get We're going get viney On a better line here that he is was coaching. Those under twenty three and has done so much develop development. coaching over. the years is no surprise. If you get to know the man because he's got a thirst for knowledge yup like he goes out on his own accord. I remember I guess those a year ago january when we were in san diego with them for their training camp vani would excuse himself from dinner from some of the social activities or because he had a japanese class. He was learning japanese online You know he tells you the sort of books that he's reading and it's like you know tombs on economic policy and things like things like that. All coaches are. Teachers is just some pin down on the teaching part a little bit more than some at the pro level become managers of personnel and all also highly certified coach though to absolutely. Yeah we were just talking about your thirst for knowledge and how much you enjoy teaching vani. You're just a student of life in a lot of Of course in the student of the game of soccer for sure. And also about the as i told you guys in our our conversation. I really liked the sentence If you just know about soccer you don't know anything about soccer. So i have like million interest to be mark. What do you think of the rest of the season How does how does the the final thirteen games feel for you. Does it feel like it's not enough time. Does it feel like it's borrowed time. How do you. How do you view the final thirteen games. We are in the five for the playoff. At the moment. We are one polling behind the behind the line and uh we need to literally to approach every game like it's already a playoff game and try to win as many games as possible because the qualifying for us would be really in getting into the objective that The club wanted that wants us to to achieve and So i have to be honest. I don't have a long-term vision about This thing in my and the as my role as a head coach but that can be maybe even an advantage because it allows me. He's only to focus every every game like it's like a final and So at the moment is on is just the thin and then if this thing continues. It will be portland so so we need to go game by game and try to get more points possible because The only thing that matters is finishing above this line That qualify as to the playoffs. If you segment the schedule The month of september Austin doesn't have a record. Portland doesn't have a winning record. Dallas doesn't have a winning record and houston doesn't have a winning record. Four of the five games are against teams with losing records and eat. Three of those games are are at home. I mean it's it's i won't say it's on a silver platter because every matches is is a test but there's opportunity there banning that'll put unity's and i agree on what you said about the fact that Three hundred five Other at home and then after that we have Even in october the majority of the games will be at home and It was completely different to play with our friends yesterday. And even a week ago we go. Actually i was in the stand being pen For the team that after more than one year almost two years playing with no fans playing away from vancouver it it really makes a difference To play at home with our fence supporting us and We really have to take advantage of it and Really transform lisa. Plays in our fortress and try to win as many games as we can Own because that's the key to the play or with vani. Sir teeny the interim head coach of vancouver whitecaps fc. I would like a word or two about ryan golden the impact that he has had on your squad Vani because you watch the team now and it feeds. Feels like their fee feeding off gold's not just as quality but his energy and his joy of this new beginning here in vancouver. Is that fair. Yeah he clearly having a big impact. I think he. He's already scored five goals in in four games and five games and three of the five games he came in. He didn't he didn't he. Didn't start so is new dp. Of course the club invested a long name But of course we don't have to forget two things. The first thing is that It's It's a kind of a preseason period. Because coming from europe he finished the season in june. So is Kind of starting now of of being condition so We can't ask the moon From any because it's We need to management to bring him at the top of his condition Game by game and the other thing is that It's a team sport. So even if he's really really good player go by itself is gonna gate so We never have to forget that Of course we need playing a quality but we need Mainly team cohesion and team organization in order to twitchy results. You once told me and granted. It was after a nice glass of italian read. Maybe a couple That you're not in this to collect trophies you're in this to collect experiences with good people is what's in front of you here now that you remember that i remember. Yeah what if is what's in front of you right now of. Is it collecting an experience. Or is this and audition to be the head. Coach club permanently. it's an experience for sure it's again. I don't know how much this gig is going to last The but it's a new experience for me at the top level. I always being an assistant coach. I've never been head coach. So it's something that of course it's gonna charge me. It's gonna. I would say even improve me as a coach and as a man taking more taking more responsibility. So i'm really i would say both excited. Maybe a little scared. Maybe little preoccupied To to do this thing. But i mean hundred fifty percent like i like to be hundred and fifty percent in any many aspects of life and Because that's the only way that i can enjoy Disposition and push you. I'm gonna tell for sure that i will enjoy. Because i'll i'll i'll give everything for the team is with club. Well we wish you the best of luck vani with thank you for the time. It was an amazing scene last night. And we look forward to More good football out of the caps and more interesting interviews with its head coach going forward. Thank you for this my friend. Thank you guys. Talk to vani sir teeny the interim head coach of in couvert whitecaps f- see He's a fascinating guy No ten to fifteen minute interview is going to do him. Justice i sure hope that The people in the whitecaps beaten and you guys on television side on tsn and not to mention bosso and miller on the am seven thirty radioside. get vani get fannings voice out there a little bit more and Get more information. More storytelling on the guy for example So wouldn't we had like a little dinner with some of the caps Couple of years ago in san diego. I should a little after dinner and there were some snacks there and And i say vani grab a wing or a meatball. Whatever it was from the platter he goes out he goes. I'm not eating meat anymore. I go what hap- goes. I turned vegetarian. This aussie oh okay. Why is that and he goes well. You know. I just don't think it's healthy and sort of the lifestyle i want to. I want to lead. And i said okay. That's interest he goes but there's one big exception i go what's that. He goes well when. I walk into my grandmother south in florence. I can't exactly tell her. I'm not gonna eat lasagna. So he says so. The one time. I eat meat is when i go back to noah's house in italy and she serves me the lasagna. He's got away of sort of engaging the large group of people with Humor with sincerity and was smarts. He's very sharp guy so he's dropped about eighty pounds. I think since those days to is unbelievably fit guy down and He's you know he's a he's a character but in a often we say oh that guy's a character and it certainly discredits who the person is and what they do. And that shouldn't be the case here with danny. He is a character in that sense by. He is also a as you talked about a renaissance man of sorts. He's very credited in the soccer coaching industry. And he's got the ability to inspire so it's to be very interested so they have hired him with the sense that he is a caretaker. And we're gonna hire a full time head coach. I'm sure because they know the personality that they accounted for the possibility that match a club. Yeah the fan base. 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Though right. you're looking at me with daggers. Shooting you don't like bc. Bats astute. No no oh and cheeky. Little backheel from bias to no. I don't think comparing gold supporing as a nickname knowing like a comparison of style. Place sure but like as a nickname dow had antuna soccer scalps for the caps and mls rheingold since arriving three hundred minutes to search for goals and to assist not a bad start. No no he has. I mean he's done. Everything asked to dp. Y'all come in have an instant impact as vani panic. Everybody limited time bake everybody better like everybody is better. Because that's the cross on the goal. Last night was superior I mean the header is gorgeous. Magnificent it's a great highlight goal. Who's who crossed it. Play by play ones brown. i believe But the cross in Was just fantastic. And i mean they're scoring goals at will and they had many more opportunities to score goals last by the way. Janine brown just called to jamaica world cup qualifiers. I literally just inquired with dolly by my side at training. The other day you think Jamaica knows gene exists and no sitter three days later he called and you know i it soccer so there are times where there are laws in the matches and god knows her been lawson whitecaps matches over the years. The pitch that you unduly were at in the entire through the entirety of the second half last night blake was something i don't remember hearing for a long time with this group so it was great fun about jeff mallett on the way out. He said blake. You have a little more fun calling me games right now. Yeah they are a little bit more fun right now than they were excellent. Excellent at dawson teaboy from this story that keeps getting wilder. There has never been bishop sycamore. They played two games in three days. Their head coach currently has an active arrest warrant. Most of the players are juku dropouts. Who are nowhere near high school age. How was he. Espn scammed this badly folks. This story will blow your mind It is a bit of a rogue property. High school sports on espn periodically. The network does like to put marquis high school sports basketball and football and others on there. Erin it's football. Americans love them some football and so over the course of one weekend. Espn was duped about a about a school. That does not exist bishop sycamore. Where did they purport to be from. I believe it was from ohio they purported to be it. Sounds like a school bishop sycamore. They saw production companies in charges are presenting game possibilities to espn and this production company got snowed. They present this game between the img academy the national and seen real school they afraid and in florida and somehow this game goes off. I g core. The players generally ju- code junior college dropouts way older than the high schoolers. Highschoolers beat them fifty eight. Nothing oh my. The story began to unfold as the game is on the air and there are clips on social media right now of the espn commentators. Kind of coming to grips with what they're watching and saying they're really just praying for the health and safety of the of the bishops sycamore. Quote unquote kid. It's because it's because they're they're they're being thrashed by legitimate football team guys who are practicing football as opposed to these guys who just at one half played played. So who's the grand poobah who's organizing all of this. Is it the head. Coach is there. S who has an active arrest warrant out for himself as a you. Name roy johnson. I wanna say yeah. What did he stand to gain here. Just a laugh like we duped. Espn a got on. I wonder if it the heart-to-heart. He thought he was going to give these guys a platform to be discovered. I wonder if that's all. I hope it was that altruism himself a otherwise it was destined to fail it. Just getting your fifteen seconds. Y what if it's gonna be found out what's the point like. Even the little league world series scandals. That was too old that was effectively to get the kids. Notice that was there. Was you know again altruistic. I don't think so. But danielle manteo monte good policy fifteen brought so yeah. It was a two or three years older. So this sort of reminds me of the curious case of sid finch except wasn't real. These are real human beings talk. Yes yeah yeah. I cover boy for april fools. That one year can throw one hundred miles an hour. Wow so what does the espn espn as mea culpa. Yeah and be also passing the buck to the third party production. You put it on the air. Espn it's on. You just unbelievable at kgan on tsn crowned gridiron nation. Our buddy jim mullen and his crew by last crown grid our nation count. There are hundred forty. Two players listed canadian hometown on a division one f. b. s. or fcs roster Kgan on tsn. Return september eighth one hundred and forty two canadians. Playing division one. Us college football. Which got going this past weekend Use sport football is back. Ebc after you're off you. B. c. plays on september twenty fifth and s. A few was playing Later this week actually on september fourth. So it's great to see the collegiate and post secondary level of football back across the continents terrific to see more and more canadians making their mark down south at the highest level which tends to be the springboard to the national football canadian and all those schools exist i. I haven't vetted all one hundred and forty two players But yes i think he. Ucsf exists speaking of college He's proven now to be better. Follow in retirement than he was in his playing days. Jr smith is taking the world by storm in his college exploits. If you missed this the former nba player nba champion has gone back to school. And you just his his ramblings about school life are just charmingly. I'll see for guy that was known more for like being the tough guy who doesn't wear shirt. He's actually proven to be quite charming. One of us is just a regular person tweeting. I have to learn how to do a better job of taking notes. For some reason. I have a hard time on. What's important information. I mean to me. It all seems important. And he's got a steve martin gift attached to it. I remember these being a a student but he could our university. He graduated university. You knew okay. I mean university now. And i remember i would title everything the date and then i would listen to the lecture and some people copy everything down. I saw it. I think it was say that. Oh everything on. Her pages highlight. Because i was the opposite. I got frozen by what would be important and at the end of the lecture i looked down and i would have no wrote notes taken. I just listened. And i would have a hard time discerning. What was important by notes and first year were pristine die wrote. Virtually everything down. I refer to them often and they helped me through the essays and the damps i i-if i would not have been through the second year by fourth year. It was like. Does anyone have a piece of full skaff. I need to descriptive title date title. No no no all dance pads all the way. No no no. But i'm saying all i have on the page was titles in dates of every lecture notes. I would just like eight titles. Dates cannot abide they. They gave me a degree. I don't know what happened english lead. That's what happened at golf. Dot com patrick campuses. Bryson's comments on the fourteenth was quote. No big deal he. He downplayed it. It's funny actress. Manson the golf course. Yesterday it was so golf. Club sesame. bryson's getting like less likeable by the route and we didn't. We're playing before this even happened. Patrick can't lease walking the other side of the fairway and he stops patrick. And you stop walking again like you don't see. Pj tour pro. Be that sort of abrupt and direct. Also here's the thing with plash part thousands of player of people walking around. You can't lose on the other side of the fairway. Be people think it was a challenge. Basically amano amano like a psychological from bryson who lost after six levels off you get home. You see the final group approaching the seventy-second green as i did yesterday still getting our tv an hour and a half ago still watch an hour and a half ago. He should have won several times mississippi just dreadful from six to twelve feet. Yes he was and now. They're one group apart in the finale. So maybe can't cork goddess twenty-first going into the finale. He's under par to start member. They do this. Weird staggered starting. Yes he's not gonna win. I wouldn't think cord cutters. But he can hold. His head is so done water. A final three. That's hashtags for today. John it's coming up. I let me tell you about fifth avenue. 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Gallivan golf event I'm back in the the hot sweaty confines of material hot and sweaty. it has been for a month. I heard that. It's hotter in the general manager's office at the bell centre in montreal after the events of this weekend. What is your interpretation. If there's anything to interpret of the spirit cutini emmy offer she'd by carolina. I mean i off the top of my head based on the way they treated the kkk all all season. Long partook in the playoffs. I i think that might be happy. Getting the first and third if he matches the six point one million dollars That to me would be that just would make no sense for me based on were montreal is right now Because logic would goal that it's maybe six point one million this year. But what is it for the future. And i just don't think you can afford to overpay. I think you could overpay a guy like that in oh you know. Obviously everybody's staying. Well this is revenge. This is that. I mean even trying to manage analyze the to press releases over over the year. Sit word for word saying that. Always this going to be this player. Wanted to be a canadian and wants to be a hurricane The one thing i would say. And this is my personal opinion. And i do have a respect for tom. Dundee in the way he does business There's somebody in that organization by the name of eric. Tulsky that Done does not do anything of this ilk. Without getting analysis from his number one analytics grew and for this to occur There would have to be a thumbs up from tulsky to say yeah. We can do this. It makes sense as analytics. Numbers work With his age. So i i'm signing on i'm citing with what what carolina has done based on what they think they need to do right now. Montreal's no we're not much not close to winning a championship Carolina might be closer to winning a championship and having another strong. Finish young finnish centerman because they seem to have a seems to be a haven for young finished players Might be the right thing for the career hurricanes at this point what is the you know. I'm i'm i'm at ease. Whatever i i understand the strategy of this offer sheet for sure And i don't think the nhl would have any qualms about how this was was implemented But the the execution and the public Feuding if you will the they went alongside anybody in new york gives an ounce of carol how that all went down nope in fact i would tell you that i think that when the offer sheet appeared Why email facts. You know telex whatever it is. The communication occurs between clubs in the league. When that occurred. I think that gary turn to bill and built turn to gary and say just another checkmark that the cba works and people can't call us for collusion and so don't complain the mean this. Hey we always want rivalry. We want him motioned. We want rau- pressure for teams to succeed. And we want good guys and bad guys in villains and heroes. I mean this is perfect. This is fantastic. It's it's august the thirtieth and we're talking about the carolina hurricanes guys come on. This is good. This is good stuff for the game of hockey. Yeah and it's an impressive list. John of players who still there's twenty nine could be twenty eight now. I believe tolman resigned in nashville today. If i'm not mistaken but twenty eight. Rfa's as that are unsigned in the nhl. And a number of offers she'll eligible guys restless darlene. The first overall pick defenseman in buffalo is still raul. Good player in detroit bathurst and could shock in ottawa robber. Thomas in saint louis. And of course the leah's patterson here in vancouver. Are you hearing anything. Scuttlebutt wise about the potential for more offer sheets given this solarge large volume of rfa's offer sheet eligible. So were still out there. No i'm not but This is a copycat league and People are still just coming back from their summer Hiatus and i think that the whole league took notice of what carolina did. And i would i would not be surprised if we hear that Not managers but owners made phone calls to managers to say. Hey if they're offers why can't we Does it have to be successful. Does it have to be successful to move that meter. So many are just mad. If this is successful. I wonder if that changes the dynamic a little bit. It may but but i don't think i think that the conversations will occur. Now i think there'll be more conversations now and then you know and i and because really what happens at this point with in such a cash-poor poor year for most teams the cap not moving. And you know the owners involvement is much greater. I think right now guys because it's his money it's their money And and so a manager I might be a little cautious of of doing something like that but if he gets pushed by the owner saying they have they're doing a she why can't we and let's face it. There's only a pocket full of teams that can actually do it because lots of teams are at a point where the amount of money that we would would create an offer sheet They couldn't afford because of the cap You'd have to wonder and to think that. I think a few more conversations occurred this will. Do you wanna move on. I have one more on on carolina. But then i'd like to move on to the olympics. You mentioned tulsky other analytics crew there. But they don't invest in adel. Kovic a calder trophy winning goaltender. They don't invest in dougie hamilton. A right shot defenseman norris trophy candidate and they throw all this money at khadka kotkin. Niamey do you pick up anything on the nhl trail like what his carolina doing our. They managing the money because they're not a cap team. To right john like he's a little bit more judicious with his base very very very judicious. And but but this goes to. This goes to you know. I will say a price list that that this this is a team that would say okay. What what's the max. We should pay for a a rate hinted offensive. What's the max we should be paying a for a goaltender with certain numbers. That's why del kovic didn't got traded was because they know in their system the goaltender is only worth so much. It's it's shades to me and it was before analytics really became pertinent. I it shades to me of what used to occur in detroit with goaltending in you know when when kenny holland had that. Great group of defenseman with anchored by nick wittstrom. You didn't need to spend a a lot of money on your goal tending. And i think that there's that thought process because of numbers in carolina's well they've they've got. They've got a number set aside. Here's what we spend for goaltending. Here's what we spend on the blue line. Here's here's what we spend for for for you know desensitize winners spending near frontline saruman and in all. That's that's business then. That's the way. Tom has been running things in it. And and even though they haven't won championships it's difficult to argue with. It's different are you. With with success with john shannon the former producer hockey night in canada. And the co host of the bob mccowan podcast. Okay olympics. you're the guy who told us When the schedule came out end of the month the end of august you anticipate. There will be a decision august thirtieth john. What are you hearing on. We're going to be this week. Told today Somebody from the federation side somebody from the nhl side. Yes it will be this week and more people are leaning to the players being involved in the olympics and part of the rules and regulations would be that That the players and the traveling of group would all have to be fully vaccinated. There would be no choice. There would be no option to the players to opt out. Vaccinations is is this. A case of too much break in the schedule for some still is still a hurdle for for gary avenue. He come around to the soccer model here of these breaks. I'd listen the brakes the brake and this is what they've had to the all star game. This they seem to be more finals. Vista nineteen ninety eight nineteen ninety eight. We had an all star game in vancouver before nago You know so. There is a precedent for it The one thing. I would say and the the tit for tat there blake is that i think the the nhl wants. It's all star game for its revenue for its two new national rights holders in the united states. 'cause i'm not sure which one gets the all star game i am assuming espn but the other part of it Is that he got. He got four extra years of cba harmony by giving up this thing saying yes. We will go to the olympics if you want to go players so he had to give something up and that was what he gave up in order to get and and you know i. I'm not sure where. I'm going to be in four or five years But we're going to be here the lamenting of the players and escrow and the amount of escrow in order to make the owners not the players hole but the owners whole cba And so part of that was due. Give the players an opportunity to go the olympics. That's just a fact. I know where you're going to be in four years at a bar in halifax the danny gallivan charitable golf tournament. Not enjoying lobster as much as most of us. That's what you'll be in this. I think i think by the time i left. I had fourteen offers to come in a day early and go on a boat. So how's that that's fantastic. Just john i say this all the time but you know there are like legitimately the number of people who are against. Nhl participation in the olympics is counted in the dozens. The the number of that are forward is counted in the millions. Maybe that's my vancouver. Two thousand ten bias talking because let's face it so a particularly entertaining tournament but i just think I just think the hall. The hockey world would be so switched on After missing a games for this february watching the best versus the best. I mean we'd have crosby versa mcdavid or with mcdavid here in canada Wherein the maple leaf but also you know. The other teams will have changed significantly since As well he's punching so she was good dose. Oh no. I remember so. She was the low-scoring like mike babcock turning the players in the world but it was players. It was nfl players but chang was not nhl players but the last time the nhl players were there was not exactly a extravaganza showing the best of offense of talent at least that The but you know. The teams teams have changed so dramatically. That i have that fascination right with what these teams would look like in february. I think the fascination for me more than anything is The the young stars that we we had a glimpse of in two thousand sixteen at the world cup playing for that. You know that invented franchise That john cooper paul. Maurice analyst guys coach You know connor mcdavid. Nathan mackinnon austin matthews. They are now veteran players but have never really other than world junior hockey championships at an opportunity to play for their countries And that to me W- to to be able to see connor lay for canada at this level coming out of the pandemic. hopefully we're out of the penick by then but coming out of the pandemic where we're trying to get a real sense of normalcy. To see the players at the olympics would be would be certainly be something very very special. Even though it's i'm just doing my adjusted. What is it sixteen hours time difference to the east and twenty one to vancouver now. Twenty thousand nine hundred banker. I used to know. I covered olympic sir. It's a long time but it is. Actually it's so long a time that actually some of the windows worked at work as we see as we saw john d. The other group that might be okay with the nhl. Arriving is the chinese national team. Have even reading some of the stuff out there recently about the chinese national team. And how it's coming along which is to say not. Well do you think. There's a world in. Which china does not ice amend team for the olympic hockey tournament. I'm not gonna lose sleep over. Blake blake but for all of the hype of getting the nhl here to be on the world's age if the chinese people which is supposed to be the stage here aren't invested because their teams out there are. Is there any advantage. Listen to one thing. I will tell you what the chinese the chinese want the best And they you know and and and what will happen as it happens. A particularly in basketball Is that they turned the market onto north american style. Sports and he turned the market onto the premier league and then they developed it after And and the chinese are never in anything for the short term. It's always for the long term. I'm not really concerned about the chinese national team. This time around Men's or women's of because they're not going to compete. And i i'm at the point where i think the chinese would rather not have a team than rather than be embarrassed. That's part of the chinese culture as well so to me What they will do. Because they're gonna play north american sized hockey introduce In introduced the game at this level for their fans and then hopefully and this is what the nhl praying for and what the federation is praying for. Is that people fall in love with the game that we watch and that the that that you know that hundreds of millions of chinese people start watching it on television and again. Another level of revenue generation for north american sports in european sports in the world's largest television market wasn't wayne gretzky helping with their program at one point did was there not a relief. I think there's been lots. There's lots of people sticking their noses. It might keenan was involved at one point over the years that the thing is i mean night. There are a couple of friends of mine that went over When when when kunlun started K. h. l. team to try to help there. There's there's a couple of canadians that live there. As part of the construction of arenas could fraser's day coach trade doubt. Yes or is he still i i. It's hard to hard to figure out With the k. Jelly with kunlun. What's going on with them. I would i would say that There's and the because the chinese look what they've done with curling look what they've done with other sports they go and hire people to to help them out to make them good and then they get rid of them in and take over the program himself. mr shannon. We refresh at a time. Thank you for yours and we will catch up next monday when we should have an answer on the olympic question as you work on labor day. We're going to wait a second. No we're not actually no we don't will up to you Catch up in a couple of weeks time. We may have something for the listeners on labor day but it won't be us life. You can't get in. Wave your golf every time i see you on twitter. All guys is golf. That's all you do. Your names are done by twos. I watch lake to soccer game the other day. So i take that back soccer games you all. You're doing is playing golf. This is Yeah tied to a hospital. Bed incidentally What did you think of play by. Play another ninety k. Carries paul dolan. Listen to that. thanks sean. Have a wonderful labor day weekend. We'll catch up in a fortnight. Okay boys john. Shannon of the bob mccowan co podcast in the former executive producer of hockey night. In he's right about this blake So yelling was obviously a big deal for china and helped get manny a chinese. Switch the game of basketball and the nba in particular. But when i went to cover china. It's one of the oddest events. I've ever covered in my life. China versus the united states the all the nba players in the opener. The olympic basketball tournament in two thousand eight they were cheering for both sides equally like they were chanting their go china chance but if kobe lebron made an amazing play the place was on its feet like they just loved watching. Excellence in the game. And i must admit There was like an adulation of some of these big american basketball stars particularly koby that. I wasn't really propped for going there like i did immediate event with kobe and lebron and some of these guys in a big auditorium where some of the female chinese volunteers who were like work in the doors and stuff like it looked like a michael jackson seen from the eighties like interior slick. Not believing they were in the presence of these american basketball stars but they were still there at least like if if if if candidate on that turnament is canada. Took on brazilian. Vc play stadium. Same thing. I mean people would still be. Oh yeah cheering on the brazilians. Right like you would be a spectacle but at least you actually are your attention. Is there because your team is there to. The chinese aren't even a part of the olympic hockey tournament. But i agree with john that if they're losing twelve thirteen nothing. I'm not necessarily sure that works in terms of concerts. Not even that bad. There are scouts over there. That have taken a look at the chinese national team. Really and some have said they would lose one hundred to nothing like that to players. They say two players know goalie. They would beat the chinese team. Like i got to that point where this is gone off the cliff of embarrassed. Just bad unranked qabail bad. So can you invite that team. Still that was part of the original deal. I'm not sure you can invite that team so all the olympic tournaments just wrapped up this this weekend of qualifiers day belarus make it and and claim of each bellarusse remind me they were and tops air. Cinnamon she tough match-up. Yeah i just i missed. I remember remember but There could be one one more one of the lucky losers there might be a lucky loser. Indeed folks we have. The price is right coming up. Blake's got a word or two for you before that from our friends at manscaping but melissa light on tell me. i'm wrongs it's a good day to get in. You can tax. You're tell me i'm wrong. Seven eight four zero to ninety six eighty. 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Another win for the whitecaps vani sartene officially one and oh isn't mls bench boss. Now would mark dos. Santos have won that game guinness. Yes rail salt lake's interest in play them match was akin to the caps interest in playing pacific. Fc but the fact that md s probably wednesday game doesn't take away from anything. Thirteen made sure that whatever momentum was lost in the canadian championship didn't transfer back to the mls games. And even you could argue. He added to it. I mean it wasn't grinding out. A one to one victory to stretch the streak to nine games. That was the first time two three goals all season and they added another. And it wasn't until the subs were in. That are so was able to find a goal but vani is the interim and unless he runs the table or close to it. Not sure he gets the call to continue where he is. I would guess this team wants a closer someone to take a borderline playoff team and make it a surefire one with a chance to win at all. Now that sounds to me like a guy who's been there and done that before maybe six around the number two guy. We'll see certainly we would abide a wonderful guy and a great coach in his own right with all the certification to prove it but again short of a miracle run. I think it's unlikely he's in charge next season from what i can glean. It's about a fifty fifty chance. There's a higher before the season is even over. Which for some is much higher than you'd expect. I mean there's just thirteen games left in the season after all but there's enough urgency that if they find the right guy they'll make it happen after all. They may have already had lines in the water as early as mid june on the cap started to six and one it was at that point when we first started to hear that the icy grow thin undermarked santos so maybe some of those lines are only being reeled in. Now we'll see the curiosity would be. Does the winning. 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You're not going to hear that so much later tonight. But thank you for listening on podcast. I just a couple of things. I wanna hit off. The price is right before we get into. Tell me i'm wrong here and last call for your submissions on that. But you're right about surtee not allowing that. Cpi or the tortellini. And the group not allowing that cpl lost to seep into mls. Play in this unbeaten. Two nine three wins in a row. Because that would have been really the risk if you're Axel schuster and order. Sapir is yeah. I know you wanna punish for the for the loss but do you end up punishing the the team for the entire season if you cut them off at the knees and destroy the momentum there dave sidestep that now and to the extent that it's what greater than fifty fifty that a new coaches in before the end of the season and that's our teeny even himself said you know whatever i have. No vision long-term vision here. You know like the only horizon. I believe was his word i see is austin and then if i'm still the head coach on portland in the next and the next bob and white horse shout bob listening up in white horse. His i blake and maga's remember brian. Schweitzer took over as the interim head coach of the seattle sounders on july. Twenty two thousand sixteen after a very lacklustre start to the season zander's they went on a tear one. Mls copy still the coach and has added another mls cup. I will go. Back to steve fisher. The interim basketball coach at the university of michigan in nineteen eighty nine caretaker taking them into the ncaa tournament. They won the whole damn thing just down the road here at the kingdom and seattle and fisher at me have no choice. Got now look. Don't think the caps are gonna win. Mls cup but you spend more time around them than me if they go to. The playoffs blake mako. Get a win move forward. That sort of thing like the type of ice. This team has rarely seen if at all. You can't say noda sir teeny if you don't have a full-time coach in before that kenny is said there are being. You could argue both ways. If the red hot you could say hey surtees doing great leave him in there or you could say bringing the guy that has the chops in the playoffs. You don't waste this. Don't get don't have a guy get coach in the place where he's never been before after playing for the coach. Though i'd say let it ride time now. I tell me i'm wrong. Brought to you by richmond autobody. Let's move along now to tell me wrong. It's satation of richmond. Auto body is wrong. You're just couldn't be more wrong mr wrong. And we know the policies in our in house pricing fire. Here we go to the people. We go blake. Tell me i'm wrong. Took one player one speech from a coach in one ben. E king song to save the whitecaps ryan galled to santos's speech about being there for the supporters. When you get back to vancouver. And i know you guys only stayed with it for brief moment there on the post game Tsn side television side. Yesterday that's one of the great scenes going on now in vancouver sports arm-in-arm singing stand by me south siders and all supporters with the players after wins at bc. Place if this turns out to be a disney movie kind of season. This is going to be a weird spot in the story. Line arc team goes on eight. Game unbeaten streak fires coach team continues to play. Well under new guy. Don't stand by coach. But they stand standby everybody else. Yeah exactly this consists. Can you imagine factual knew. He was firing the santos prior to last weekend. They saw that scene stand by me. Oh my god oh no what that thought did cross my mind is that after all the draws. They were sort of formulated okay. We're going to let this guy go. And then they go on a heater teams like. Oh can't do it now. They're on a heater. And then after the one loss finally they suffer a loss cookie. Now press the button now and and there had happened. So it's very very odd story line to my bra. Cockamamie is carolina hurricane. Oh yeah no question. No question shannon said the. I mean the way they've utilized them may be difficult for the amateur scouts. In the jammed ago we turned to third overall three years ago. I the layperson third. Or mid i censor but yeah at six point one. You have to does your qualifying era after. But here's the value is almost nil at six point. One sees they're benching him in the stanley cup final. You can bet. In their hearts they know deep down. He's twenty one he's gonna develop into what we want him to be. Don't worry no exactly. And now all of a sudden they don't have that that security of a developing nope no they don't second line center to the people. We go taj. The blueberry guy. Tom wrong thanks for the discount. My berries oh you believe that has to do with the read you just completed like oh prior to the price is right. You don't want harry berries ver- never nobody wants. Tell me i'm wrong. If tom dondon could have added an addendum that was a tracing of his hand giving the middle finger. He would've fence from surrey ryan. Yeah i think so. It's bit of a maverick owner rice from taxes to you don't mess with texas the fact that they've gone so obviously this direction with the press. Release being almost word for word on the whole one for i mean like a hobby would have just been cold blooded enough just to do the offer sheet the fact that they're actually doing the rain dance as well. It's just unbelievable. Here's alison clearwater says. Tell me i'm wrong. Carolina's lock to make the playoffs thus arguably their best blue liner and their best tandem is a a old be injury. prone and see streaky. At best montreal should take unprotected first rounder and run with it. I think he's right. I would be surprised if carolina doesn't make the plus. You agree that they're not a lock to make the playoffs. They're not tampa. I'd say pretty close to being locked for me but tevin wrong from richard by bennie did not learn anything. From the best referred on signs that year the verb furlan signing pickup cap space which forced a bridge deal for besser this year the pullman signing will prevent both hughes pederson from a long-term signing Pulmonary degree yeah. He's right he's right to a degree. I mean it's two point five million but just you know he's like a child that has money in a candy store shelves coming out with kenny. Coming out with any money. Leftover yeah. I'm sorry. say but that that is what we have seen. Here of money burns a hole in the pockets. Particularly now because it's all out to save the gig right to save the bacon but i don't think it's pullman on his own because if pullman home at one point four it's one and a half but if he's one point four he's that worthwhile signing and he's not for years term but as one foot that's only one point three and savings so as the. Tell me i'm wrong and it's as wrong is. It's only one point three safes. If you go to market belly basketball phil tell me. I'm wrong connects. Twitter would destroy the maths not wrong. That's players savvy bias. Unhappy with the treatment of mets fans after losing all these games who came to his defense talking about how media invent narratives on twitter. Who do you think it was. Pitcher formerly pitched here at nat. Fm bailey stadium as he once said bird. Schilling who former blue. Jay stroman you got. It defended it sandy. Alderson president of matt's had to go out and put out a statement going mets fans. You're allowed to be upset when we lose like we have been losing what a gong show fills right like if they had to put up with connects twitter and i saw some people were like. Oh so now. You fans are upset. You can't take your own medicine. No like no known. Upset games are out of the fans loose. You tell me but it's also like weird practice like they're paying the money there the business driver and you're going to tell them that they suck That's a little odd. We got some voice memo. Tell me i'm wrong. Let's fire should mean in the adult. Tell me i'm wrong. Blake price through the short hairs having a mandate to read. I can't hear him. I drew the short straw. The short hair. he said By having to do the manscaping rates no proud proud to talk about the lawn mower. Four point now blake is the best in the business at this. Okay at the at the reading at the at the selling all all. He's unaware my technique no when we discussed this off the top blake moses own long. Have a lot of mo- only makes sense that he reads the lawnmower at. We're really twisting the metaphor here. And i'm making me uncomfortable next album twitter. Tell me i'm wrong. The carolina hurricanes have the best social media in the nhl. Those troll tweets were epic than amazing. Who says there's no spied ential. They do have amazing social media everything from don cherry and bunch of jerks Now they've been there there. Hey twitter twitter. nhl byles all-sports. They tried over too hard at times but more often than not carolina's got a right. And this is another case and if it is just one person i am surprised an. Nfl team hasn't hired. Yeah absolutely one more voice. Memo nick in perth. Tell me i'm wrong. In his greatest it was to see such a good will plan tag team effort from donald. L. and thomas dundas over there in carolina to do with the kotkin yemi Offer sheet. I think in the long run Even though it was also amazing to see mark berge even get his just desserts after a horrible horrible horrible first round pick in you know signing out in the first place to his offer sheet is actually going to hurt the nhl and other teams chances of actually signing off. She's in the future because this whole thing just kind of turned into a big circus. Act a big middle finger to the other team. Teams are just not gonna want to go through this all over again. Our future hockey men are loath to hurt feelings. that's key drivers to why she's don't happen in the first place. The only thing. i'll say remember. Brian burke anaheim and they signed dustin penner today offer sheet edmonson. Yeah like challenging people the barn fights and just nonsense like that like pro hop pro. Here's the there is a little bit of this. That isn't very pro. Out of carolina will agree with that part of it. But that's again he. Burke was the carolina here. Yeah so like. I either successful and a works out like and that's part of me. Hope it is hoping for that hurricanes get cockamamie and. It works out for them that he he rises to the occasion. He's fifty point player because then teams might just say yeah did caterpillar off marshall but look what they got out of it. Gosh maybe it's worth hurting the feelings or to the point about cost kakinada me. Being terrible third overall pick blake. We did that draft or like okay. They're so desperate for centerman that they have convinced this themselves that this guy's third overall he was very nice prospect. We expected him five to eight spots. Further down. even ten to twelve summer in area brady could chuck was the next pack for picks. Later quincy ups. That's what originally cook fans can think. Back hocken ambi pick was what originally got people thinking and doing the math of could hughes fall to vancouver because once you had a wild card slipped in the middle everybody got bumped down a notch or two and caps fans started to hope. Have we read chattan burnaby. Tell me i'm wrong. i'm less afraid. He's answering the poll question. I'm less afraid of the idea of pederson. Getting an offer sheet and more freight of the possibility that a trend might occur where teamster doing a sleazy offer a one year contract for an outrageous some then extend the guy for years immediately for much less to lower the cap it. They can't really do that. Chat they can the can the guy would sorry okay so you mean instead of qualifying him in going through the restricted free agent process because qualify for one year. You offer the multi year deal at a lower cap. Yes okay so yeah you could take a cue. Oh next year if your Akinyemi for a close to six or you say hey. Here's a seven year deal for four point five year right so yeah you could do that and but you know what folks if you've got the room for thirteen million to borrow the extreme example given by chip. I mean all bets are up. How many teams have room to all you know. All grossly overpaid. Elliot's pederson thirteen million dollars year next year. Not many teams if any norsar dan. Tell me i'm wrong. With the new owners teams in the league over the past few years the hurricanes offer sheet and the vegas. He's got entry draft. But i think he means expansion dress maneuvers will be a watershed moment as new owners use underutilized tactics to it with the old guard. Well ron francis in seattle didn't use the expansion draft tactics and that's only about available to expansion teams but on the offer sheet side. I mean you look at the players who are out there and offer sheet eligible. I wouldn't be surprised. You got another one. You got cap tight team sadly because the pandemic and the flat cap which may have actually neutral this exercise compared to what it could have otherwise been blake with this group of our face but the one thing that is true and that dan hit on a bit what we say. The last the ara phase. The new usa people used to gag out over the ufa. Right that guy got unrestricted free agency. Time to blow our brains at now. Teams are spending the huge coin on their own. Ara face so when those guys get to market or at least available via the offer sheet. I sure hope we're gonna see more of it. Like jenin said like look at the conversation. We're having on august. Thirtieth ben's love it. They love it. It's a great mechanism if it is in fact used and used appropriately. I would love to know if this. I'm terrible at this is where my short term memory sex you know is this. Is this a larger than normal population. Going into september more notable. I think the no note ability of the plan and of course usually you know reporting dates. Become a pressure point. Everybody gets signed up. I imagine a lot of these twenty eight remaining are we'll get signed up Before before training camp laura gay seems like that probably means. At least one of the jew can oxen patterson or hughes But again but the quality is pretty. Good i mean patterson darlene. I would look. I would look at ara face that have had a little step back still value. Because of course you're not gonna offer sheet a guy that has no value but guys that have a small failure to launch or had a little step back season but still have value to a team. Maybe there's more offer sheet left. we'll see anything else. Okay well This one surgery. Tell me i'm wrong between the whitecaps and the lines vancouver's actually becoming a very fun sports city again. Hopefully the cox follow suit whitecaps nine in a row and beaten and mls. Why don't you doing it more with defense games. haven't been oil paintings. But they could. Well be fun by the time they come back to be placed. I mean there's some nice things offensively this past week that is still under construction across the nfl. You may have noticed. And the conducts are going to have a better. We think in more exciting top. Six top nine four regroup. Think of the bar. Think of the bar. Think of where. We're in the community that i don't want to disagree with them. 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Buffalo wants to trade him to montreal but because nets off compla- center washington. I think that's real has to do is used that i in third immediately as draft is the trade capital and i turned around. I think i think that's the only option that they have right now. Because i don't know that much. We all stand for a team. That goes from stanley flannel. Two out of the playoffs. I mean there's there will be some pressure on mark version to at fall off with a competitive team. I mean his job was on the line right before they made i think it could be a precipitous fall from grace of much real does not look good. Mark berge will outwitted here in the off season much. Not good you arpan bass. Who's gonna join us on the other side. We'll discuss more on this topic and memo to it's coming up our three secure some price to secure some price from the wall center presentation of outy downtown vancouver mr price you laugh at me fiving surviving and yes table dancing chair. 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Well you know you do like to get gambling of course on the boat online and the ad vata in the red sox tonight I've got some college football lines later. Standby standby i've got pond bass who's gonna join us here from the athletic on the big offer sheet carolina montreal cock in the emmy olympic participation in other. Nhl matters in their memo to need you to send a memo anybody in the rule. The sport anybody in the news trying to be witty. Try and be topical tax seven seven eight four zero to ninety six eighty e mail live at charissa price dot com twitter at secure some price or the secure some voice memo go security bryce dot com slash voice memo big red record button. Hit it gives your name where you're calling from memo to yes sir Just just put this in the back of your brain here. It moves between now and thursday. Canada honduras early line for the qualifiers kendra the favorite. Yeah of course. Yeah fairly overwhelming. While i would think so at this point. Yeah i mean. I just one young may evening. I can't imagine hundreds can put the same level of talent on the pitch the candidate can now with with its best players. Considering how nervous i think lot fans are gonna be going into that match amazing to see this line. If you've watched canadians offers therapist. I mean that's a but the the oddsmakers clearly would have to minus one eighty five on canada right now. It's plus five twenty five for honduras. Let's park that in our brains and we'll see how the changes towards our pond is a writer reporter editor with the athletic in montreal. I'm not gonna try. And say the french version of it because i mispronounced earlier and he joins us on the line. Now hello are on. How are you my friend. I'm good guys. how are you very well. Yes table dancing. Everybody remembers table dancing from the draft in philadelphia. Many ago to do busy weekend for you did you see this coming Not on a saturday evening. I didn't think. I think generally speaking. I mean i didn't see it coming necessarily but it's when it happened. I wasn't You know the tom dunton's been kind of half joking about this for like two years now and it wasn't clear if he was actually joking or not. Now i guess we have the answer to that but You know it's It's indicative of obviously how carolina's watch something with montreal. But i think that's more that's more showy part of it But i do. I do think it indicates that they feel that they can get sort of an undervalued player. Who has a lot of potential ahead of them And created a very creative offer. I should say or just came up with an offer that montrose gonna really have to think hard about 'cause i put them in a very difficult position. How in love with talking ame is mark burs van and his staff. Do you think because we're you know we forecast is for the canal zone is at least pederson in any risk. I mean this organization loves in needs pederson so you know it becomes a no brainer there but we saw you know. We saw the the player benched at times. He's only twenty one. That's okay you're allowed to bench 21-year-old's but still it made it raise questions about whether or not you know. Montreal was a believer in cockney. How much of a gut punch if any was this to mark levin like those are two separate questions i think it is a gut punch to mark version and acadians in the sense that you know. They're their long-term plan here includes yes barry cockamamie the big part of the problem. I guess where. I guess the level of doubt is you know how close is he to being that player. Her closest being ready to fill the kind of role that they envisioned for him When they took him third overall in two thousand eighteen it didn't sound like they felt he was all that close You know Win the offer. She came down. I kind of tried to put myself in cockamamie shoes. I'm just wondering what he thought when i was asked On july twenty eighth the opening day of free agency when filipino left to sign with the la kings You know how prepared he was to enter the season with with me this as number two center by mixes yuki and he. He wavered big time. You know he's like i don't know asked myself this question. Every day for weeks we love the peak of his gamble. We don't see it often and it was very it was very noncommittal so basically that day he said if they could get a center to shelter cockney this season for not too much money. She would look to do that. And so when the she came down. I'm like what what might cockamamie have thought as you watched that as you watch that answer and you know thinking that wants denno signs elsewhere. That's going to be my shot. They're gonna show confidence and they're going to be like yes. Kids ready to take on this role. the microclimate didn't do that news. Just being honest he was giving his honest assessment of of. What do you think the player is at and But i can't help but think that sitting at home watching on tv or watching the you know the clip on on twitter or tick talk or whatever social media platform you choose is He couldn't have been too happy to hear that. And so it's You know. I don't know how much that played into his decision to sign this offer sheet but I think the lack of you know the lack of real belief from the canadians short-term not long term. I think long term. They believe he's going to be a you know a very good player but short term. I think was trying to wear on him a little bit. Are pond our halves fans reacting to this because many don't necessarily know that you require the players consent design the offer sheet that it's not just a one way tactic from team and then they discover wait a second guy sinus to as part of another sima sperry cock in the emmys name right now with absense. I think what. I think what people are most annoyed with is that he signed the offer as as it was presented to the public meaning a base salary that ends the number fifteen signing bonus of twenty dollars. You know all of these things meant to sort of ridicule low that the canadians and i think. That's where can't fans have an issue here. Because i don't think anyone who's the kid to sign a six point one million dollar offer sheet when he was probably going to get tops. Two point five from the canadians on some sort of bridge deal I'm thinking you know people could be disappointed. Not whatever but. I don't think anyone grudge him doing that. And i think what the some of the reaction from fans what really irksome is that he was seemingly part and parcel of the entire social media campaign that surrounded this from the hurricane which was great and entertaining to watch and fun at them. Kudos to them for for sort of just buying into the whole revenge thing and not and not tiptoeing around it But his participation in it i think is what someone has some fans Disappointed frankly angry At for playing along. I'm kinda like the reason he signed. It is that he's not all that happy with what's going on in montreal. So i kind of see him being like yeah. You guys can do whatever you want. You wanna give me an extra thirty five bucks. I'm not going to say no to that. Who says no to thirty five bucks. So so it's yeah. I mean you know and plus you know. He's been here three years. He's only twenty one but he's three seasons into his career. You know i. I think he's i think he's still gonna turn out to a very good player but not everyone in. Montreal feels the same way. A lot of people have their doubts. But when he's going to pan out or not. Were with our upon of the athletic talking about the big offer sheet carolina sperry cockamamie signed and will leave the montreal. Canadians are on you. Look at their centre daft. The you mentioned suzuki the first line center. Now and boy. What is your that young man had. But if it's not kotkin yami playing center. Ice for the apps. I mean boy sa- position of weakness to begin with. How much does this setback. Montreal canadian's timeline window project if you will if they lose the center ice spent like this. Well that's i mean. That's the thing the long term plan for this team to have sue and cockamamie be the number one number two center for you know the next ten years. Ideally i mean. That's that's really what but at least five like that was the plan you know and whether the moment when that would come to fission wasn't all that clear next pretty much they're now i mean he's he's top center and would have been had even if even if they had stayed But it does mess up that long term vision. 'cause you don't you know. Mark loves saying the best way to acquire. These centerman is by the dry drafting and developing them. And that's what they're in the process of doing with hockey. I mean probably not to the You know cau- cami didn't let the speed with which was going and the canadians didn't like the beatles going so it's It's a big. It's a big blow. And so i think what is going gonna be doing. This week is scouring league to see what would happen if you had an extra first round. Pick to dangle To see if he can unearth assignment of some kind. I mean the name of kristofor keeps keeps popping up 'cause arizona's full sole mode and they're harvesting picks like nobody's business so there could be sit there. He signed a four more years at roughly four point five million a year so be palatable number for montreal but he would in order for him to let cockamamie walk with no reservations. He's going to need to find a replacement by saturday and he's been looking for a replacement pretty much all summer or at least since the end of july so all the whole month of august. So you haven't found one yet. But the parameters changed 'cause before he was looking for a guy who could who could play with cocking and shelter him and play. you know. Take some defensive assignments and do certain things whereas now he's looking for legitimate number two center which changes the game because those guys don't get traded very often. I've imagining eichel is out of their price range. But there was tons of rumors about kuznetzov in washington. Is there any possibility there. I mean would that be too tough a fit. I mean it would be just numbers. Big it's seven point eight for. I think it's five years left on at seven point eight nine already twenty nine believe it or not. I actually looked at it today. it would be difficult. What else is the other reason. It would be difficult. Is you have to imagine. Washington would want something back so that they can put into their lineup. And so it's you know that's not really the type of trade. That montreal is in the market for right now You know it's there in washington still in a competitive windows. what. I meaning like as opposed to arizona. Where a team like you know. I mean the anaheim or or some teams are still on the in the rebuilding phase or trying to build up to contention think washington is trying to squeeze every last out of contention. They have left in them before they embark on probably a pretty serious rebuild their own. So i don't know if that's a set number with the number would be difficult for me to absorb even the six point one isn't gonna work. I mean they could send salary to washington to make that happen. But there's a lot of question marks where i'm at player and with that contract i just i don't see fit personally. Are bundy changes. The landscape of offer sheets in the national hockey league as a whole is this. A watershed moment at fans have been pleading for this to become a well utilized wildcard. It's just never come to fruition. Is you know does the success of this dictate that or does this just be. Is this more of the same that we've seen. Well i mean. We're gonna see what montreal does here. I mean if we take for granted that they are going to walk away from this player Then i would hope. Yes i mean i think carolina should be commended for how they structured this this contract one year at such a high. You know everyone recognizes like ludicrously. High number But but really. It's the class of player like earlier. You guys were talking about list. Elliot's peterson getting offer sheet. That's different that's a whole different conversation and like the nhl hasn't properly targeted. The right guys for offer sheets. I remember you know last. I guess it was last summer i was edmonton covering the cup. Final with with thomas grants and we were just going bonkers over like someone needs to offer. She return that like this is. This is the candidate to get an offer sheet exactly like the one carolina just presented to guess very caulking me like they. Some team could've put tampa and a really big jam. Had they got eric's or not to agree to an offer. Sheet like this and so But so many elements need to go in to place and the main one being by the player has to want to leave like. That's the thing with the attorney. Maybe he did get offer sheet offers. We don't know and maybe just said i'm not signing it. I don't wanna leave. 'cause i went and got another cup or whatever it's But the way carolina's gone about it is a smart way to go about it. Don't go for the top tier guys go for the second or third tier guys. Overpay them at a very short term. So you get the player and then you can deal with the aftermath afterwards but at least you have the player and some carolina's perspective like they're taking a risk because you know talk me and he's going to expect money in this range from here on out because his qualifying offer is going to be six point one million dollars next year but if it really doesn't work out i mean carolina 'cause just not qualifying come loose and all the costume was the first and third and six million bucks. But they got to audition this this. You know top three pick for a year work out cut our losses and it's fine whereas so the risk level for carolina. there isn't out for them whereas much different scenario stay match. Because you know it's their draft pick and everything. But i think teams should look at how carolina went about it and specifically the the range of player they targeted and use that. It's going forward. Because i think that's where the offer sheet. You know happy zone as his players that are not in the top tier but in two or three tiers second or third tier players that you over pay for a year and then hope it works out. There's the optics and the politics as well. Right are pont like it. Is kurds to walk away. From guys. who. You have positioned as part of your franchise pillars via via the offer sheet. I mean there are a few things. I would think that would sophomore for a gm than to have to face the fan base. And we're losing this player. Because of an offer chien-ming dustin penner of the world are one thing right But the ryan gets laughs of the world Would be another Well rhino riley was kind of a similar situation. They had to. They had to match that as it turns out. Calgary screwed up the office. She but still it was it was it was colorado matched because you know they invested in that player. And that's that is the rub here. And that's what's gonna cause it's gonna make the canadians can match the offer. And not actually have to shed anyone off their off their payroll. They could do it. They have l. tr space You know shea weber. And paul barnes gonna miss you know the first few months since he's in so they can. They can survive that and when barring gets back they still don't have to shed a player necessarily but things would be extremely paid on a daily basis like they they might have to go with eighteen guys on rosters and do various things to try and get through the season. But you know the point is. Is that exactly what you said like. We're gonna let it team walk in and take this kid that we've invested so much and and take him right when he's about to in his prime when we should be benefiting from his prime. So that's you know that's the uncomfortable. Visitation that teams need to put other teams in. And you know. Obviously carolina had no clear motive in choosing the canadians to put that positioning. But still even you forget all the stuff if you look at the situation. They were vulnerable to something like this. Because of their caps situation because of everything and carolina exploited it. It just so happens that it's the team that they wanted to get back at and it so it worked out but i i think. I hope that they're gyms around the league saying we could do something like that. 'cause it makes sense like it's not. It's not a huge risk. Yes it's a big financial payer but to get a player who's who has a ton of potential and a ton of talent Is is almost impossible. I trade so serie are what was the plan if he if he was signed. Two point five or three. Well how are they going to squeeze him in then they have they have they have enough room to fit him at six point one so putting him at two point five or three is not is not that big of a deal and they would just have that much more flexibility like. That's really they didn't have to do anything. Sign them at two point five or even three. And i don't think they were actually considering paying as much as three so it's a two point five two point seven two point eight. He would have said fine 'cause they can. They can absorb this contract right now at six point one. Are you like. It's just gonna take a ton of maneuvering like a lot of maneuvering but they don't you know i've been told that they wouldn't necessarily have to shed a playoff roster to do it. Are you like us just waiting for this olympic announcement to lock that schedule in firmly forward one way or the other hotels then has know. I know it's like as much as i want players to go to the olympics and have that fantastic tournament. I just want to know what the cannot schedule. It's just wanna know. Connect schedule is. I wanna know yeah. It's yeah it's it's we've been talking about well who knows how much no have you dakota situation being what it is because how much we're going to travel this season itsel. I'd sweden to do some planning and so it's But but more than that just for the fans. I mean it would be good to to know this. I mean it's it's dragged on far enough and it's really gone down. It's gone to a point where league said it wouldn't allow it to get to like you know they've always said that by now we would know and if it's a no then it's no But i hope it happens. I really do. Because i enjoy that tournament more than anything. I mean. it's really a treat to cover search and that was awesome and You know. I don't think i'll cover this one but i'd love to watch on tv as a fan would be fantastic. But yeah as a practical matter. I think for the league to go on with their business and for everyone to infer teams to be able to sell tickets to these games. Which desperately need to do and what to do They need to get this settled. So i mean i thought we would get something today but maybe tomorrow This week for sure which is what they said like last week and they supposedly force you. This is working on a very typical at time line. But it's and again you know a lot of people blame the nhl for the olympics thing but really it's it's dealing with the ioc. That's the real pain in the ass. Here i mean it's it's and it always has been that's always been the problem. Is that you know the ifc imposing their full ownership of everything and not and not conceding any sort of financial sharing of the cost of going and and not you know not playing ball at all. The nhl is a far bigger reason why the hasn't been at the olympics. Plus you times. And if they don't go this year i would. I would think that would be the biggest reason. Why again our upon. Thanks for the time buddy. You have a good final few days of summer Look forward to what's happening between now and saturday on this on this offer sheet file and we'll catch up down the road all right take care guys basu of the athletic at a montreal and the big offer sheet from caroline on sperry kotkin the emmy He's right about the olympics and we have said this many many times the ifc does not make it easy on the national hockey league. It's member clubs and the owners. There are a ton of things the could do to make this a better partnership and cement the relationship The is to blame for all of those things but you know by the same token it is the greediness of the thirty two governors. Thirty tip has been thirty up until vegas and seattle and gary The commissioner's own personal. Need to control everything And other factors that detract from the nhl's Desire to go the olympics and frankly You know part of that is lack of vision. And part of that is that the fans opinion doesn't really count and gary swirled Billions want this stop and dozens. Don't yet that was the decision that was rendered intellectually. Wanted to happen. But i'll say this. I'm really looking forward to a full. Nhl season like. That's what i'm looking for two more. It just normal. Nhl season like that. Well i mean so. I like i'm not cl- i don't feel like i'm clamoring for that next. And that's that's not to say that i don't want them to go. I'm sure i'll get into it once the arrive in once we've had fifty. Nhl games leading up to that. I'll probably be ready for it. But it's not in the head space now. Where i dat. Now i want. I want an an chelsea's. I want to know that it's not a twenty five game season and it's not a a bubble and a plan and all that i just wanna see what a normal season looks like with. I hear i hear that Yearn for a return to normalcy as well. Yeah but i also want to see a best on best olympic tournament for the first time in eight years ago. I wanna see mcdavid play with crosby. I wanna see what you know. The anx russians and swedes and finns and everybody bring to the table. Their best teams you know. Some of the best hockey i've ever seen was in this city twenty ten at the olympic tournament and I can only imagine how great it's gonna look you know with another decade of evolution development of the athlete and the player. If in fact you know we don't have like babcock's of the world you know turning fifty goalscorers integrate checkers grind out. The wins gotta grind them out. Mentioned seattle do. What do you think of the seahawks trade. you remember. Sidney jones remember sidney jones at the university of washington and i remember liking sidney jones as a prospect. Has he played a ton in jacksonville. You'll have to team starts over four years. Yeah so i'm not sure. That's a step in starter for you. Cut trey flowers. Are they well. But i mean i guess oh okay i'm just looking zones. Thirteen now jones certain philly. I mean i remember like in those washington corners back in the day and six foot one and eighty okay. He's dj read is the likely star. Well i mean read played so well last year at the end of the year. What a waiver claim from san for. I loved how tenacious he well not the biggest guy remember. We talked about The seattle corner was always. You know the big tall physical press. Richard sherman Style or. remember the cfl around absolutely when they won the super bowl You know. I'm not sure this guy's it but Read you know. Read was terrific last year when they brought him on Powers always seemed like he was. The guy had the tools. But it's never there was just a some missing out with flowers. But i still thought he could be a serviceable contributor. Just getting back to the haves and in knockin emmy so their second line center blake. Jake evans had some nice moments in the stanley cup. Playoff run but can't do is checking center. Cedric podcasts again. There i don't even know some of these other guys like they've barely touched the nhl. They have to go get somebody. They have to use their their draft capital. And i appreciate their. They could absorb this. He's been told ryan paling The former first round pick Would be a possibility when he was drafted. He was Third line center just not not not exposed enough for a top six role. I wanna know where this cap spaces. Well he again. When you're on cap friendly or pedia understand that some of that for seven defensemen they will count some of the They they can sometimes count more than twenty three twelve fours and seven defense movement. I got to where the money. Yeah now was somebody going well. Weber of course is going on injured. Drake young get your l. ti. They're they're already over. That's a big one. They're already one huge. I have the so the project cap in on friendly as eighty three seven but that's not accounting for seven point eight of weber on l. tr. I don't believe so. Oh boy they have a buyout of nearly two million karlsruhe burnaby. Carl alter it trims off after this year but yet this year it's two million young complicated accounting. They're montreal. oh look at this Congratulations to our friend. Randy will tennis. Bowen jack you'll born nine hundred six this morning weighing six pounds seven ounces and momber healthy in doing fantastic. You've had quite an ordeal. They're coming down from oliver to saint paul's so that is wonderful news. Congratulations family and everybody there. blake is going to tell you about mike's computer shop. 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We're here Okay jordan says in her. Inbox says the french national team. Who have nhl players lost. Latvia for the final olympic spot in the germans should be in the olympics over the chinese team. Right yeah belarus. Didn't get in Like the way didn't get in the scotsman schiller's okay good for them back in on the weekend good for them. First time they've ever made time now for memo to. This is my favorite memo ever today. I wanna talk to you. About how great memo asking business history right of memorandum santa memo to anybody in the world of sports. Anybody in the news. Macomb wait may come. Top buckle blake price memo to usa women's hockey careful one of these days. You're going to be the outside looking in when it comes to the semi finals. They get past finland today three nothing which have been an issue in the past. That have been a little bit of a banana peel. Yeah for the us us. He's an empty data to make it three nothing. It was two nothing for the most part. But hey the whole field getting better defense. Just got into the semi finals by the by the margins. One nothing over the checks. That's good and i come running roughshod but everybody else's pretty close right now so on canada's switzerland i cover that women's hockey game. Ub upc in two twenty ten. Yeah and the swiss scored a goal and like you were thought. They won the gold medal. Yeah and after the game. The canadian players walked through the media's zone and there were some furrowed brows like they didn't feel like they played while i forget the file. I'm sure it was eight one one or something like that but it was a pretty joyless canadian group and of course that was the melody davidson era. Were they were l. Quite machine hardcore and the swiss came through whooping it up and the captain who scored the goal. You know stopford interview and we said. Tell us about your goal. And she said it was a beauty. Wasn't it and so you know the end of the games. The global mail asked us all the write up a little vignette of capturing the olympic spirit. And i wrote about this swiss captain and just how pleased her and her teammates were score against garrett and she messaged me like months later. I just read your thick. Thank you so much. Have a memento for my kids and stuff like that. You know obviously not. Some new was going pro so to speak just somebody. You wanted that olympic moment and got it against mighty. Canada swiss improving. They beat the russians to get into the seventies and it's only three nothing candidate after two. They're not gonna win the hockey game. But that's hanging hanging with the canadian memo to liberty media and the faa what happened yesterday at the belgian cross. Pre can't happen again when you and i realize you can't control. The weather is pouring rain. There blake had one of the greatest lapresse while. Look you can't control the weather but to drag out proceedings for five and a half hours will you. Will you not have a grand prix to race two laps behind the safety car. Plus the two formation laps you did hours earlier. Call that an event give it a with points and then we've put still point five points. Which look they're moving on onto the dutch grand prix this week. It is a huge logistical efforts to move everything that goes into a formula one race. And there's part of me there's part of me that hopes that if there was another If there wasn't a race this weekend they would've raised today. Yes i sure hope. That was the case. Because i've been ticket buyer at these ground. Priests they're not cheap particularly if you're buying the weekend and then here's the other thing that my dad mentioned to me like short of nasa f. one might be the best technology the world over like there is not much that escapes formula one teams like mercedes and ferrari red bull in terms of their technological capacity. Yeah you'd guys with squeegees on the track you're telling me there isn't a better way you want. Big fans sean. I'm just blake. There's billions of dollars that go into this sport. Yeah surely there's a better way then. One safety car going around dispersing some of the water at guys with squeegees trying to get the crackdown like a power to be some sort of power heater power something that could go along not effect the actual race conditions dispersed the water at allow them a fighting chance to get the grand prix like a massive fan is legitimately an option. There you imagine what these engineers could create fan wise. Yeah like a leaf blower. I would think would do a pretty good job. A massive gas powered leaf blower. I would think that would work. Well dispersed water better than a squeegee right to the people. We go We'll start with anthony in coquitlam memo to fellow fantasy football players. 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Junior footballer big deal there my time and saskatoon told me that. Oh yeah while especially junior football back in the day they're like you said the little grey cup used to be massive in that province is now with another one to memo to cfl haters. How can you not enjoy the last eight minutes of a close game review for the nfl model where single drive can bring the entire fourth quarter and have no drama. The doubtedly got that right over top the nfl comparison. But we've talked about this in the past like the collegiate model is there for the nfl. And i realized it's a television window thing. Yes but in nca football you make a first down. The clock stops momentarily. Even with the runner tackling inbounds while they reset the chains right You've got to reset the chain. The umpires got a spa spot. The ball can't play if the officials they're they're they're hiring in the game but it's not this ridiculous show that you see in the nfl where everyone's got a sprint and there's anarchy and chaos because the clock is it's no no you got a few seconds. You're going to reset the chains. The umpires spot the ball properly right hash rate everything and we're all going to get in position. Then you're going to hear a whistle now. The clock site ain't talented. Point is more on the the clock stopping so much during the more relaxed portion. Not so much in the two minute drill but before that that you know you get the ball back with six and a half eight minutes left to the court. You might win the game. If you're up yeah you can run into like. That shouldn't be. That's a that's that's an eighth of the game still left on the clock and you're you're effectively drive to preserve the victory aren't you. Aren't you scared basketball phil memo to caroline john schneider. There's you're starting center right there. Make the waiver claim. This is matt scorer away by the dolphins of former starter in baltimore And part of me. That goes if you're trying to claim your starting center off waivers or you really a super bowl team. But yeah i i mean. It's a position where the hawks special against donald have had some weakness over the years melba curve and company. Please don't sell golf for profit next year instead build off him like fcc did with giovinco. That's for meat. Gurmeet not not having nive wet the sale well not now but eventually he keeps showing this way The potentially i mean again. He's he's Twenty five years of age like this is not a guy who's now angling to be at manchester united. Like i think ryan gold knows where he is in his career. Does he can climb a rung or two from malaysia. I think that's possible. But i mean he's going to have to up this league for a couple of years minimum if he hopes to have one more chance at a top five league in europe but i mean at. He's turned in twenty six and few months like brian. All almost just ryan gold but we also there are very few ways of getting ahead financially and mls and we have the alfonzo davies example. Why is you have a great team. Like seattle sal. Forty fifty thousand tickets have huge sponsorship dollars available. The other is you develop great young talent and turn it into massive transfer fees while it's just again to the acquiring places. There's no it's television money in this league. But it's about the acquiring team. No a european club feel really good about acquiring twenty-seven-year-old. Mls yeah that's supposed to like l. Afc just sold today to botchy diego rossi. Good player be owns rossy. Twenty-three so that's the driver just turned twenty three. I don't think we've got a number. You okay but he. He's regarded Transfer market hasn't as the most valuable. Mls player right now. So that fits the bill a lot. More twenty-three-year-old was still a lot ahead. it's rossi's rossi because okay you can look up whether rossi the transfer fee for as spin announced this from j. c. member. Bryson into shambo. You'd be you. You're excellent for the game of golf. People love to watch them. Also if you don't mind between september twenty first and twenty seventh could you only hit fairways. Could you make foot butts. Could you not blame your equipment. Could you hit your irons of predictable. Eighth kids you learn to chip and finally because let's say very much of the press and even less in the locker room signed steve stricker. Thanks price and your perfect. Just the way you are is the american ryder cup captain. Who now has to deal with the bryson. Do who is at total social media war with brooks kapka and has told another ryder cup team. May patrick Up patrick can you just stop in there. I'm in address. Okay patrick and this is after Shambo kept ahead to sort of. Make a public a truce for the ryder cup. That they're gonna stop they. Were going to stop talking about each other so that it wasn't a drama leading up to the ryder cup and now shambles just gone. Create a new drama. We all know how this is going to end. Europe is gonna win. Or leo leo lay. It should end with dissemble. Not come into the ryder cup hot. I put it in a hot take weeks ago. That if i'm steve stricker it's one or the other now back then brazen the had not yet cross canceling right but at this case you know. He's he's made it on merit. I'm sure he wants to go proud. American and all that. Everybody talks about the ryder ryder cup. But if this vote oh yeah gorgeous shambo the rest of the ryder cup. Teams voting kept. I don't know whether steve stretcher has it in him. Or whether it's in the captain's purview to go to a player who you think would just disrupt the team room like nobody and say we're asking you to recuse herself and step aside. We don't feel like we can win. Or we think like the dynamic would be too difficult and blake remember. This is a team that has done things. Like throw. captains under the boss at press conferences phil mickelson and others over the years. They're so individualistic. Both americans and the sport of golf put them on a team. They don't tend to function as optimally optimal function. I think al-tairi insurance and josh cranston fax. I'm talking to josh moro about policy. Oh yeah and. I'm looking forward to being educated because if there's one thing that josh knows outside of goaltending where he made his bid for the nhl it's the insurance game and he also knows the insurance game needs to change us. Look if your listeners. Have anti kind of questions still unita halsey. 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Certainly in the top five. What is not now? No, it is not interesting. No, Michael or doesn't even like it because it's not accurate, and they they made a hero out of, you know, the white woman instead of the black guy, you know, they made him look, really bad. I'm not judging it by whether or not Michael warlike said I like the stories not accurate. It was just anyway. Shawn Watson with us on ESPN radio. Do you have a list of five five football movies that you would say are the best five football movies of all time? And thank you for joining us to Sean. No problem. Deep avid me a first off but five of my head. Ad hockey and probably say I Friday night lights, so their choice. How is that? Not in the top five. How was that movie? Get up there. That's the classic. I can't think of anyone rob something ahead. But remember the titans is a is a pretty thorough yet. I can't. Yeah. Remember the titans? Gotta have that one. But that's what was football Rudy is one of the top five replacements. Of course, little giant should be up. There. Little giants. Let's base. How does Shawn Watson with us on ESPN radio? One of the things that I found fascinating about you. Sean and work done is one of the coolest people I've ever met in sports. And what he does is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in sports where because he found his mother along time ago. Former police officer found her dead he decided to help people who with struggling households eat he built homes for them and one of people he built a home for was you can you tell us some of that back story. And how it is you came to be to have Warren work done in your life. Yeah. I mean, it was just a this is also really a big blessing for me and my family, you know, watch right down, of course, being so close to Atlanta in the south is complex and watching them, you know, train and go to the game. You know, we were just in in need, you know, really need help. And we wanted to get out there that I was standing my mom, she's saying up to me service hours, and the classes, and and it was blessed and all of a sudden, you know, he blesses with furniture, and in the home and food and things like that to try and take it to another level. And that's what man got close in the next. You know, you know, ten years later, I'm sitting in a cell, and we can talk about it. Remember those moments. How do you think it plays out differently? If work done isn't there with that kind of help? I I don't think it would have changed anything. I think everything would have still kinda planned out because at that age that mindset where I wanted to this is where I wanted to go into how I'm gonna do it. But it would have probably been tougher wrote. Honestly, you know with environment. I was in the versity impatient. For you know, doing some bands that are shouldn't be doing have probably keep, Dan. But I have been I bet the same but a little harder. Sean is the best feeling in your football life beating Nick Sabin. For sure I mean, it was awesome. That was crazy. You know, every NFL game is is feels like a new after a big kid, you know in the drink. Come true. So all that it's been pretty good. Shawn Watson with us on ESPN radio. Can you put us next to you? Watching the national championship game this year who were you with what was happening. Did you run into the street screaming? Yeah. I was with a out boy. You know, all that comes to alumni, no, Mike wins, the Andre hopping shut loss and charge. Boy, oughta guy was playing more. It's good. It's good to kinda see them. Come back. Let's see them and talking to catch up with them. Also, see the young guys that were on the field produce, it the way they did it just made us all happy and Brown that you know, we can celebrate amount of and and celebrate the rent is it a little bit better because it's Alabama. Oh, yeah. For sure. Better. Does Shawn Watson with us here on ESPN radio? I've been given JJ watt a really hard time for a long time. Obviously, everyone knows what he great player. He is. But do you guys joke around in the locker room that he sprints to every single camera the second, he sees it? Come you guys have to joke around about that? Don't you? He do that for I I haven't really paid attention to almost I'll check it out to God hard to find. I mean, just God's claims claims that J J watt only does things for social media purposes because to God's is mean, and you can feel free to rips through God's. Scoundrels? He's a scoundrel. And he shouldn't do those things. I just wondering if the joke around the log or for social media. That's that's the least thing that. He did. He, you know, it's all it's all serious all, you know, business like, and it just can't move around when when de'andre Hopkins I met you after match ob- TJ Yates, case keenum, Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, Tom savage, and Brandon Weeden did he hold you in a warm and lengthy embrace. Oh, yeah. You get fresh very quite even guys who Houston drafted embracing him. So he kind of tweeted out a little smiley face and things like that. But yeah, it was it was fun. It's been fun. You know been able to throw throw him and made my life easier. When's the last time he dropped the football? You threw at him. Never really. Honestly, I mean, it has he had no drops this season. Right. None. None at all. How is that possible? He doesn't catch on your phone. How is that possible? Yeah. You can just blend that on me the bad. The bad singer chosen to hot that was all on me. We want to ask you what it is that your pitching. What is it that you're on behalf of here today? Yamamoto's by saw new fresher question have a lot more experience, and and moisturizing shea butter and getting awhile Martha's, not different, you know, body body wash things that you know, for man, they're gonna have. You had a decorated second season. You won eleven games you made a Pro Bowl. And then of course, you topped off by being named the MVP L the most valuable logo. I my fantasy team. I'm just wondering what it means to you. When you first heard that you'd won the MVP L, two minutes get outta here. Just get out of here. Catch just get out of here. Yeah. It's pretty dumb. Eta finish strong. And you know, a lot of people then allowed to you know, taking me off of their team or no pigmy on adventures like that. But you know, I told him I beginning, you ain't never, you know, never go against the towards the end, especially. What's the single most important? The Rams have to do to beat the patriots. You got to protect the ball. You have to score touchdowns. You can't keep those. And they gotta be yourself. You can't do anything out the balloon chain go outside your game plan. Just whatever you prep for do it, then protect the Bronx. Russian, sean. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate you playing along with our nonsense. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Fine, by the way. Stretching for some. It's going to make me laugh every time, and you're making that question, more and more obvious that new are struggling with breath in hell, and no one's going to mention it. Nope. No one. For those of you who do not know we've been asking a form that we're about ten years. We never listened to the answer. We're too busy laughing that anyone is taking the question series. We also never have to edit. The patriots part of the question. But I also love that the Sean like many, oh, and you ask them the single most important thing always give you five things. No, one more agree GIS, then David deal. What's the single most important the Rams to do to beat the patriots credited? This Shawn Watson that wasn't quarterback. Good energy. Good energy. Yes. We were. We were kinda stinky. No one worse than Greg Cote. Like, it's at least the pricing thing in the world that he makes every question about himself. He wants them was MVP L, man. You gotta not. And he said it was dope. Oh, I can't believe it. That Gerald is presenting the quarterly budget report with finger puppets. Look here comes one point seven percent decrease in fixed overhead I know everybody. No, I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on car insurance with gyco. You projected increase in organic revenue. Believe it. Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance card. I get many complaints about why do you cut Cody off so much. Why don't you? Let him talk more. He has no governor whatsoever for what others find interesting. It's just for what he finds interesting. And what he finds interesting is himself. Stugatz. I'm interested in people. So maybe people are interested in me. That's my governor governor VC's Libertad show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Here will put it on the pole while we still have you. He's about to run out here the neurotic twins or about the head to the Super Bowl him. And Allison Allison is paid one hundred and twenty dollars not to sit near him. Greg. Cody of the Miami Herald is with us today. Put this on the poll, please at lebatardshow Instagram and Twitter because Mike Ryan does show within a show sometimes with the music. Did you get get in quote marks? Did you get? Mike Ryan starting the Shawn Watson interview with a little Whitney Houston. Because Mike Ryan hurts whenever no one gets the musical inside stuff. He's doing my grind has also been very busy becoming a hot take artist. He believes that things would beat the Eastern Conference all stars roof. And I think he's he's probably right. He won up. Greenie who said the warriors would beat the Eastern Conference all stars. Last friday. You were out Mike one up dead and said the kings would be the Eastern Conference. All stars couple qualifiers we have to play right now. And all you afford the Eastern Conference. All stars is a layup line before the game. Roll the ball out and you go they never play. They've never played together before. Yeah. That's probably an interesting conversation to have on another sports show the other heartache that Mike Ryan had get up every day. Is it seven to ten or six to ten? Seven to ten or is it eight to ten I think it's eight to ten. Yeah. I think it is eight to ten definitely not six to ten. That's that's like a wing go either way. It's not long enough. Yeah. I don't think Golic and wingo. Are I don't think those schedules matter like if one of them six to ten it doesn't mean the other one can't be fixed ten regardless. What I wanted to ask you is Mike Ryan's other hot take which is the Zion. Williamson is getting more hype. When you consider high school and college then LeBron James did that Mike Ryan is claiming that there's never been a player to get this kind of hype because he's a circus freak. He's novelty. We just had during the break this conversation, Stu got spitting takes in every direction. He's like oh, Dan, Dan Zion. Williamson is a bigger impact guy. Then LeBron when it gets to team, and I'm like, I don't think that's true, Stu, and Stu God says you haven't watched him play. And I'm like, okay, good talks to God. Right. We'll have you. I mean until you watch them on a month. They night against Notre Dame. And then boys, Mike Bray. You haven't watched. I n Williams and play. I last night was maybe the best game of his career. It was incredible last night. Is this got sick the take to the next level? Because as he was saying that I was in the other room trying to explain not an actual like he's going to save your franchise because he's a different kind of player LeBron better prospect. But in terms of excitement, this is a totally viral athlete. I dunno social media was different back then, but I've never seen anything like that. We we cover covered. Lebron James's highschool games. ESPN televised. His high school games. I don't know. How my where we doing? They did. So as I on and it was an event. Well, they they play a lot of high school games these days. Don't they? Yeah. All Vernon Carey junior last week on ESPN LeBron sort of sorted that trend. So he he's a trendsetter. But I've never seen something that surroundings. I n Williamson Maga get what you're saying. But I think people because of the YouTube stuff, and he was a YouTube sensation in is that YouTube sensation, and they just think about the dunks. He's got game. Legitimate real game. Got an outside shot. He can pass the obviously rebounds. Well plays defense. Very well. I'm telling you, I feel like he could change the fortunes of your franchise much much like LeBron James that I really do. And that's why I'm fine. I'm rooting for the Knicks every single night. Like, I'm watching the NBA championship. Please lose this game. Because if you're tanking for that guy, you're tanking for the right gut. So Anthony Davis continues to be in the news because the pelicans are interested in filing tampering charges because some of the stuff that's happened here and Sports Illustrated is reporting that the pelicans have been telling Davis for a long time not to go with Rich Paul because of some of the stuff happening in that league. And I just find fascinating how enraged these owners were used to having the power must be because LeBron James can slither around in a loophole that they have no access to and LeBron James has been a problem. In terms of power accruing since doing that TV show. He's been a pioneer, and whatever it is. You wanna say about him? He has been very very good at accumulating power. And for some reason the sports fan is far more comfortable with the owner accumulating power than the player accumulating power. Even though these owners like take a look Jimmy has lemon read some of the stuff going on with the Browns and understand that his organization was federally indicted and a lot of owners take shortcuts and use loopholes. I mean, if you read anything about how the president of our country arrived at his wealth. You can see the way that grey areas and loopholes are exploited and so-. Lebron James has this loophole. And I don't know whether they're going to close it. I don't know what they could do about it. But he can make his own team in a way an owner can't because not. Only not only can he just go have dinner with Anthony Davis in a way. No other owner is allowed to have dinner with Anthony Davis while he's under contract. But he's got this damn shadow agency run by an airport like. That is just shoveling players LeBron that tricky thing though for the other owners if you have a guy like that. And they're wanted a generation type guys don't you want him building the roster for you. Don't you want that guy actively recruiting players get you might end up with a guy like that? The thing anyone objecting. Lebron James having that power would like that power for themselves. Anyone anyone? I would love to have that power. I mean, you sort of said it flippantly. Yeah. It was somebody that he met an airport brand. It's such a great job of empowering, his friends empowering, his friend radio a point that he could actually leverage their power agreed to it is super smart super forward thinking, and it's checkmated these owners, the the Knicks after just sit there and wait for the draft to come around and hope lose enough against Williamson while the broad is like man, my growing hurts. Let's go get Anthony day. The rules of collusion and tampering and all that stuff really have changed over the years. And I think it started with the big three in Miami. When LeBron and Dwayne decided to get together. And hey, let's bring Chris Bosh too. And it was back-channel stop. It wasn't illegal. It may be massage the rules a little bit. But now, you know, the NBA can't legislate friendship. I mean, if LeBron has a relationship with Anthony Davis, and they wanna have dinner whose rule is that by leading. And what can you do about it? If you're I understand why the pelicans are upset, but what can you do about it? The NBA you go collective bargaining agreement will guess who's got a chair with the player throws. And and before when he came here. I remind you that Dan Gilbert had investigators and then held at the league this isn't allowed that can't talk. And then and then league was like. I can do that. Incidentally that haunted hotel. We had the wrong haunted hotel. We had the Pfister Milwaukee. It's the Skirving hotel in. Okay. See evidently, it's a fine that the movie is about and we're going to talk to the director at twelve thirty eastern because that's the story of the day for our show donlevatar. My hair is unfashionably age. Inappropriate long, perhaps the longest and has been since college and may continue as such. I'm not sure why last vestiges of the. Of the extreme outer limits of midlife crisis guides futile shield held wobbly against the encroachment of mortality, maybe the last stage before the onset of mister Rogers styles sweaters, and the silent rendering a knowledge of official old aid. Oh truth. You always wrote you would be like one of America's greatest author BCC donlevatar show with Stu gods on ESPN radio at twelve thirty eastern. We will have on Bob Cohen, the director of this movie with Kyrie Irving about haunted, a haunted hotel in Oklahoma City career having right now is making Boston fans feel a little bit haunted because it doesn't feel or seem like his words at that pep rally where he's like I intend to sign here mean very much now that they've actually played games. And Gordon Hayward is not doing anything and boogie cousins doesn't look any kind of rusty with the warriors. The warriors just beat Indiana by thirty two points or scoring at a damn near unprecedented pays boogie cousins is doing all the things that Boston wanted. Gordon? Hayward to do. I'm sorry. Lebron? Had that feeling when he did that weird thing right at the end of preseason when he spoke to an arena saying, yeah, I'm coming back. But he didn't actually agree to any sort of extension. Really like knowing what we know about Kyrie and you can't trust him. I mean, he's a little bit likes to God's in terms of do not take whatever he saying into a microphone seriously. That's dan. So the Skirving hotel is the haunted hotel. And okay, see we've talked a lot over the years two guys about staying in that hotel and at twelve thirty we're going to explore the haunting, but Patrick Ewing was on with us. This is what he had to say about the haunted hotel homeless city. They told me the the gentleman who used a limp in the hotel through his minsters to win because she was pregnant I wanna hear I want to hear what those nights were like Patrick. Did you sleep? Okay. Did you hear rumblings? Did you like I like the idea of giant seven foot, Patrick Ewing? Not having. Not being able to sleep because he hears rumblings in the hotel heard a whole lot of rumbling. But I think it was you know, we might have lost the night before and Stanford's, you know, marching the whole curse and everybody else for not doing their job. Okay. So might not have been might not have been actual ghosts. It might have just been a. I'm from Ireland. So have you from of course, you're going to know about goes. So yeah. Of course, I'm afraid of ghosts. Okay. So that's an excellent quote, James Johnson of the Miami Heat. Also talked to us about the hotel. Here's what he had to say true or false Derrick rose thinks hotels are haunted and thinks it so much that he stayed in a room with you one night because he was afraid of ghosts true. Okay. See, okay. You hotel the scurvy a hotel. That's true. We would just come back from dinner and I'll walking with him to his room to grab something out of his room. And when we got all his stuff was flipped upside down the bad. How is that a chair in there? And he immediately turned white and took off running people used to do that to Patrick you. And all the time you guys were bleeping Derrick rose, which one of your teammates at that. No. Till this day, we still don't know. We don't get it. Because I was the rookie. Then you wasn't the rookie was his second year. So I was the rookie Taj Gibson was rookie. So we thought they were gonna do that to our room. He stayed on my bed. I was on the floor. I slept on the floor that night. What sucks like I said that their grows and she was starting to playing in all the minutes, and I'm a rookie not playing no minutes. You can have the best. All right James today, though this year, you're sleeping on the bed. That's roses sleeping on the floor. Right. James? Appreciate that not this year. I think Derek has the bed back there. Derek get the bed back this year. I want to get into this story with you guys about the image of the NFL what the NFL wants to accomplish versus the image of barstool sports. And is this a true story is TMZ is reporting. This isn't a gimmick. This isn't this isn't something that is barstool trying to create controversy in order to get publicity. Right. One of their famous personalities PF t- commenter who is a he is basically a spoof. He's he's a spoof. He's very popular because he's clever being, you know, somebody who comments and the pro football talk section on Mike Florio stories. He is telling TMZ that he was not only kicked out of Super Bowl media night last night. But that he was arrested. He was arrested by the Atlanta police for making a mess. S of what is the circus? You know gronk should have been arrested last night as well. If that's if that's how we're doing. It TMZ is an update and says that he was not arrested, but they were kicked out and they were in possession of fake media credentials. So they were kicked out for trespass. Okay. That sounds reasonable. But I can't even I can't if that's true if they're they're with fake ID's. My guess is they maybe should have been arrested trying to top that day were issued criminal trespass warnings. But APD all right because I told Billy I went into the room. The I went to the room a couple of commercials ago. I'm like Billy would be great for our show. If you've got arrested, you said, it would be the best thing that could happen. And I said I completely disagree with you. And I rarely disagree with you that strongly I'm doing, okay. What you in jail would be good for our show. Put it on the poll at lebatardshow would Billy being jailed at the Super Bowl be good for the show. Yes, or no. But what happened was good for barstool and PF t was it not. That's exactly what they wanted. You talk about them is good for them. They don't need our help. Really? But they're pretty smart. And that's I think another example of it. So what would you say there? Billy are you're getting arrested. That's my plan. I'm not getting arrested. I don't care if you guys think this is good ever career to worry about you. Guys are getting older not gonna be around forever. You're not being a team player Bill. Yeah. Well, I'm not starting to war with the NFL for your amusement comply with Brady. I mean, you're a collared, Dan, Dan, send me next year. I'll go to media day naked. See we're going to have our own stool here going. Yes, we're we need to put your willing to get arrested. Yup. Okay. Would be by the way. I think you nude in jails about idea for everybody. Don liberal card. I mean, Charlie hustle come on. It's it all starts with us. Still God's you are really going to summon the biggest entered in the history of the sport. That's one of the few guys we know to have bet on or around baseball in his team as the guy who should symbolize purity of Hus. Why didn't they call them? Charlie hustle. Oh, thank you guys. Guys sprinted down the line every time, right? Also hustle. You're out of your money in a con- outside of the whole thing doesn't run with that. Charlie hustle is exactly what you will find in a sweatsuit in front of a Vegas hotel selling his autograph because he's banned from every sports thing that they have in baseball that welcomes back Mark McGwire Barry Bonds and everyone except him DCC live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. I find this week in journalism something between exasperatingly and hacky. It's the worst of us just gathering around rob gronkowski and poking him until he says something and so now we hear from this person named Nickell Robey Coleman. Now, I happen to know four Cornerbacks for the Rams this is not one of them. Now, I'm not saying that he's not good. I'm just saying the guys that I know to Lee and look Mark. Peter's has had a bad year. But I don't know much about this human being well outside of he was the one that hit the the saints receiver helmet to helmet, and he became infamous from there. So I think a lot of people know three a Rams corners now. So no but same shield is in there too like Sam. So any of this guys this star right now, he is the big star of the ram second Asli. He is the talker. Also. But I just love that. I've got in front of me two different headlines. They're right next to each other. When you call up his name, one of them says Nickell Robey Coleman isn't going to hold back. Now. The next one says Nickell Robey Coleman says Brady age comments were taken out of context. Like, they're they're they're right next to each other these two stories, and what I wanted to talk to you about the patriots because you know, how tired I am of trash talk. Go grab somebody who will say something about Tom Brady. Then put it in front of Tom Brady. Start a fire. We're Tom Hanks. You're tired of the rash. Shaw. Trash logs amazing wrestling element. They litten board stuff. Like will this motivate Brady all that nonsense that we do because we gotta fill you know, the week of time. But what I wanted to ask you guys specifically about this. Are you guys weary of this the pay? It's not just the patriots saying how dare you disrespect us. But then the media says what we did disrespect you. And then the patriots say, how dare you doubt us. And then the media says, well, we didn't doubt you when there were plenty of people picking against the and it's just a stupid cycle of of just stupidity. Yeah. Don't get the part where the patriots say they that you now all the noise and dome listen to the media, cog and all of that. But I think they look for their motivation with. Opposing t. I mean, if you remember the eagles right with Andy Reid, I think they had the parade. Route like written out in Belgium, spent twenty five to thirty minutes reading the exasperate plans for Philadelphia. The eagles have won that motivation buyers me up the motivation is they really wanna win. That's the motivation. It's why they dedicate their spleens and their spines to the call. Right. But you can have extra added motivation when people are doubting you why would you choose? Sorry. I'm going to go ahead and say that with Tom Brady enters the playoffs, he's at maximum motivation. And if you started a fire behind him that might threaten to actually engulf him and flames it'd be just as motivated as he would be by Roby Coleman and something Roby Coleman said, but the weird thing is Tom Brady appearing to need motivation. I mean at the off at Gillette stadium, he's like leading a chant. We're still here like anybody doubted. And now he's saying that they've battled adversity oval seasons. Did nobody picking the game? I pick New England to win. No, I didn't. Back here. Yeah. Boyzone? I didn't that point. I didn't doubt them OC. I did this much. But the point is the one eleven to thirteen game for a thousand years in a row, and you're going to claim your doubted you pick. Happen to in that one game. But you don't. It's the game. They're objecting to they're not saying down at us. It gets the chargers. Although some people did don't play the disrespect card anybody, but Grady Brady completed that this was car Dame did say that the the patriots would get swamped. I think they're gonna get swamped in the Super Bowl. Do it. Dan, do it. I care about you. Radio hasn't been sacked. They're going to get pressure up the middle though. Has not been sacked ever. Don't say it don't think. It's I mean, what are you doing? I care about you, man. You're gonna fall for it. Again, don't do it as a greatest quarterback in the history of the NFL dare, I say, the greatest athlete in the history of team sports. Don't do it. The inexperienced Bella check won't figure out a way to stop Aaron Donald don't do. Do you pick the chiefs? I love that. He can't even remember his pick on one of the time ago two weeks on your single hottest season, ever, picking games. You don't remember that you publicly doubted the patriots in their last game? You don't even remember it proving and solidifying my point. Have you guys seen Aaron Donald without a shirt, Chris through it? Wow. Chris I care about you. Chris don't do it. Aaron Donald without a shirt is they. They. Guys. Both of you lease do not do it brother out here, man. Trying to help a brother out you need it. Don't don't do that. Okay. What are you doing? You care about me. I care about you. Don't do it. What are you doing airing about you? I mean, just stop thinking those thoughts and saying those words man, don't do it. Aaron Donald without his shirt. Who cares? Have you see Brady without a shirt at the combine? He's got a pot belly. You do it. I wonder do you doubt them in the Super Bowl in any way? Cody I do. Greg Cody on ESPN radio.

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Mondays with Mo- September 9, 2019

Scoops with Danny Mac

12:33 min | 2 years ago

Mondays with Mo- September 9, 2019

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Law The president of baseball operations at the Saint Louis Cardinals a reminder that we do this every Monday on the website scoops who Danny Mac dot com and you can have this sent right to you favorite supported devices just go to I tunes whatever it is that you listen to your podcast on and go to scoops with Danny Mac dot com and it'll drop right there on Wednesday we at Brian Walton and covers the minor leagues Thursday Tony Larussa Friday Ben Frederickson and multiple podcasts dropping throughout the week. You can face off against your friends for ultimate bragging rights in Westport social located in Westport Plaza. WESTPORT social is a classic Bar Gaming Lounge with seven classic games indoor Botchy Papa shod floor and table shuffleboard. They've got pool tables tables ping pong darts and so much more really a fun place to be live music every weekend big brunch on Sundays. It's westport social. CHECK IT OUT WEST PORT SOCIAL DASH S. T. L. DOT COM to learn more today coming up. We'll visit John Moselle lock up the Saint Louis Cardinals pay Saint Louis. It's Matt Carpenter for my friends for instance nuts. I want to tell you about the surprises they haven't stores. Smokes has completely reformulated the taste and quality of hundreds of snow brand items throughout the store ice cream soda <hes> chips snacks all of it designed to meet or beat the national brands on taste and quality plus. You can save a few bucks while you're at. It's not generic brand. It's not private label. It's not storebrand door brand. Its nooks brand so check out. All the surprises and storage enough just bought the red dot and you'll know it's good Mondays with Mo our chance to visit with John Mosaic Lock and the a day after the cardinals take two three against the Pittsburgh pirates and mow your young starter. Jack Flaherty is turning into a superstar. He was just outstanding and yet again. What are you seeing out of flaherty from that start that we always go back to in San Francisco where he had the the no hitter going to what we see now which since that time is down to about a point seven. Era It's made the biggest difference earlier his fastball command in other words what he needs a strike he gets a strike and and so he's just much more control of counts in you think back to the first part of the season. I think a lot of times you thought you were going to see see this type of of greatness out of him but I think too many free passes to any T- counts and then both of those combinations ended up being early exits were earlier that he'd like him now just jumping completely dominant and I think it all starts with that fastball. I was asked the other day if I had ever seen a run like this <hes> <hes> in the last five or ten years by a cardinal pitcher and I said well the guy that comes to mind would probably be Chris Carpenter. This has been kind of Chris Carpenter esque has it not it's been dominating. <hes> haven't been asked that question to reflect on it <hes> in terms of WHO's head that type of run on but I guess this is fairly store given the fact how dominant he's bad <hes> but probably a good name absolutely <hes>. How do you feel about. Is Your team right now. On the way things are going and just you know we we set it on the the postgame yesterday in Jimmy talked about Jimmy Edmonds but you get a sense that this team can kind of smell. Mallett a little bit and they're all starting to come together while I think that's right. I think you and I were talking about this week or two ago but the way this clump repes- has played the second half is it understands what it's trying to do and you know on any given day. You have someone contributing and it's it's really a fun team because it's you just don't know what's going to happen on that given day but starts with the rotation and they've been very strong are bullpen has had a few hiccups hiccups this past week but still good and still something when you get this type of outing you saw yesterday by Jack Flaherty it obviously gives the bullpens a little bit of a break to an so day off today start off in Denver tomorrow and certainly looking forward to it mo in terms of call all ups <hes> do do you anticipate anything else happening with that or are you pretty satisfied with where you're at right now with the guys that you brought up. I think we're good. <hes> I feel feel like we've got a lot of tools on that bench that we can go to <hes>. I think we have some diversity in the sense of speed defense offensive threat so I think we we have a lot to offer as as you can play September baseball so I think I think we're pretty solid on on what we have and hopefully we. We have a enough to have a real strong finisher. When ask you about a couple of the guys at the top of your lineup one would be Dexter Fowler. Who is now your everyday leadoff man and seems seems to have just thrived in that role in the other? One is called long in some of the adjustments. Maybe that we're seeing of him going the other way. What are you seeing out of those two guys well. I think that's just saying what we thought we were getting when we originally signed him. Someone that can take the count. Some of that can use the whole field has has has back pocket power when you need it and I think he's getting more comfortable in right so as you look at at just overall contribution. I think it's Oh really what we need. It and you know I think you you look at the success. We've had he's been a key part of that but then you also brought up Cole Log and you know clearly the type of a year he's had and what he's evolved into has been what we've always hoped we'd see and that means <hes> in all fields hitter some of that's not afraid to take the ball down the left field line can pull bullet when need to <hes> elite defender that can really help a club when you need it and so you're seeing that combination and when you have that one two punch followed by three or four five all the sudden you're a threat and and so you really see the depths of this lineup in it's <hes> it's fun to watch modise with carpenter coming off the bench a little bit more than he has been recently. It's Kinda just a way for him to step back. I'm sure he doesn't like that role but you know what the results have been there as a pinch hitter or when he gets start he's he's hitting the that'll be the trend as you you finish up here in the final three weeks. I you know I imagine the skippers going to try to find whatever hot hand he can go with but clearly Tommy Edmund Pretty impactful over the last few weeks and and brought a lot of energy and from a defensive standpoint is really picked us up so I think trying trying to get carpet bats <unk> seen car take advantage of his pinch hitting role but that <hes> as you saw yesterday had a couple <hes> good swings on the ball so I think you know using players and trying to England ingle intermingle them in have the right combination is ultimately what the skipper's GonNa try to do and you know again if you have different resources to pull from at any given time and trying to plug the ones in that you think if you're the best this chance is ultimately successful so in Carb's case I I really feel like this last week but actually quite positive for him and so hopefully it's just another stepping stone for him to build old. I'm curious from your perspective mode. You think Mike Scheldt is getting <hes> enough credit for being in consideration for manager of the year in the National National League. I talk about it a lot but I'm just curious from your parts of the business. If you're starting to hear some rumblings about that I really haven't but thought absolutely but you know these things are are sort of like you know who has the best record tends to kind of gain that type of recognition but having said that you know I do think he's GonNa be someone that that that does get some acknowledgement for the success he's he's created and and <hes> it's well deserved and you know. I think as you go into the last couple of weeks of the season you start to hear more people talk about it because writers are starting to weigh in on all the different awards at the end of the season but certainly showed the staff done amazing jobs. Are you ready for the boys of summer. 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Shampoo Pot talent amend complimentary shoeshine all for just twenty two dollars and for an extra five dollars. Get a stress three leaving scalp massage hair saloon sixteen locations. There's one near you hair saloon for man. You know my kids told us us and and certainly you dive into the numbers more than anybody but he said we will be better base running. We'll be fundamentally better in the field defensively well you one of the best bass running any teams in the league and you may go from worst to first in fielding percentage. Did you have any idea that you'd be able to clean it up this much. I know you felt there'd be some improvement improvement. But did you anticipate this much. Well we we did. We did think it was possible. We also felt like the acquisition of of Goldschmidt was going to help in that regard. I think everybody would agree. It has so ultimately when you look at at some of the system system ceased put in place the processes that he has in how he thinks about positioning in and putting our defenders in the best spot. I'll say mckiness stats done a tremendous job to to make that happen and then also from days running standpoint guys study pitchers. They studied catchers and they try to take tale of anything they can. You know clearly they've been. They've been extraordinarily successful added. I hope it continues. I'm GonNa let you go enjoy away the off day and we'll catch up and Saint Louis very soon and as always. I appreciate you doing this on a Monday morning. Thanks so much.

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30:04 min | 1 year ago

Mis haters

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