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They. You are really missing out if you haven't listened to park casts crimes of passion podcast yet. I can't wait for the next up. Assode crimes of passion. Analyzes, the relationship, dynamics and psychology that lead to betrayal crimes and even murder search for and subscribe to crimes of passion wherever you listen to podcasts, and please don't forget to rate and review. The nation was in shock, the fallout of the assassination had left a fog of grief. The murdered man had been a controversial figure, but he had also been known even beloved as a powerful orator inspiring leader and honorable family, man. And now he was dead. His name was John F Kennedy thirty fifth president of the United States in the weeks following his death. No one wanted to hear a bad word about the man nation of Islam, president Elijah. Muhammad ordered his ministers to not publicly comment on the assassination. The organization had been steeped in recent controversy and Muhammad new politicizing the president's death would be a bad move only one man disobeyed elisas order of silence. His second in command, Malcolm. Ex- Malcolm commented on Kennedy's death. In December nineteen sixty three speech proclaiming that the chickens had come home to roost now can la- censured by Elijah and the rest of the nation of Islam leadership the event kicked off a series of rifts within the nation of Islam. And ultimately it led to another assassination that of Malcolm X. One death can change the world at least that's what a sassy belief every week. We examined the famous assassins of history, and the men and women who were assassinated, welcome to assassinations. I'm your host Kate. And I'm your host Bill. This is our first episode on Malcolm X, the civil rights leader who was assassinated by Talmadge hair. Norman three x Butler and Thomas fifteen x Johnson all members of the nation of Islam a group he helped bring to the national spotlight since it's such a big story. We'll be covering the assassination of Malcolm X over three episodes this week. We'll take a look at the fractured relationship between Malcolm X and Elijah. Muhammad. The charismatic leader of the nation of Islam who helped bring Malcolm into the fold. If you like the show, you can subscribe on your favorite podcast directory and the best way to help us by leaving a five star review while you're there. A new episode comes out every Monday, you can also find us on Facebook and Instagram at par cast on Twitter at par cast network and at par cast dot com. Elijah? Muhammad was born Elisa pool on October seventh 1897 in Sanders. Ville Georgia he was the fifth child of William pool. A sharecropper turned Baptist preacher and Mariah pool. A domestic worker Williams power as a man of faith instilled in Elijah, a desire to become a preacher himself. However once Elisha began to study the bible on his own he became unsatisfied with how little he'd learned from his father's lessons. He vowed he wouldn't join the church until he had a more complete understanding of scripture as a youth Elisha had less time than he'd like to focus on his religious studies. The pools were only one generation removed from slavery and much of their time and effort was spent battling poverty and discrimination. Once when Elijah was a child he took a walk to a nearby town to sell. Elsom some firewood as he reached the town center. He saw a crowd of white townsfolk gathered around a tree he knew whatever was happening had to be bad news, but he found himself approaching the tree. Anyway, the body of a black man hung from the branches he had been Lynch for supposedly raping a white woman. There had been no arrests. No formal charges. No due process. The vigilantes who carried out the deed were never punished. Elijah ran home the image of that poor man dangling from the tree would haunt him for the rest of his life, though. He was still young Elisa vowed on that day that he would devote his life to making things better for his fellow black citizens. Elisha left home at age sixteen and found work as a railroad laborer in nineteen nineteen when he was twenty three he met a girl named Clara Evans. The courtship was fast and the two married on March seventeenth nineteen nineteen nineteen twenty two. The couple had two children Emmanuel and Ethel Elisha enjoyed his job with the railroad. But he didn't want his children to grow up in Georgia where they witness the same racial violence that had plagued his own childhood. So in April of nineteen Twenty-three, the pools moved to Detroit Detroit was a step up from Georgia, but racial tensions were still high. As a result Elijah struggle to find consistent work. For the next few years. The pools barely scraped by ashamed of his perceived failure Elisha descended into alcoholism his life became routine. He was either drunk or discussing scripture with his family in nineteen thirty-one Elijah's parents moved to Detroit to live with him and his family Elijah still struggle to provide and buried his sorrows in drink his father, William eventually intervened. He told Elijah about a new organization called the nation of Islam led by a man named w d Fard Elijah first visit of the organization sometime in late nineteen thirty one. He was shocked at how the gatherings didn't resemble typical Muslim congregation though, they observe traditional Muslim practices, the nation of Islam was also strongly devoted to racial Justice Elijah was astounded at how radical. Words meetings were Fard argued for the creation of a separate state for the descendants of slaves. He predicted a divine destruction of the white world, and that blacks would inhabit the paradise that followed for his entire life. Elisha had been seeking to things a greater understanding of the word of God and escape from the racial oppression that had surrounded him all his life in that basement in Detroit where the nation of Islam gathered. It seemed that he had found both Elijah's devotion was intense and immediate after that first gathering he met Fard and told him he believed he was the second coming of Christ far responded. My name is Marty. I am God I came to guide you into the right path that you may be successful and see the hereafter Elijah believed in Fard so strongly that he even prayed too far. When he was at home Elisha soon brought his wife Clara into the fold on their first meeting far told Clara that Elijah was gifted in that he should begin preaching himself at the age of thirty three Elisha pool had finally found his purpose. He abandoned the name pool that name had been given to Elijah's family by a slave owner. He took on the name Karim and far too pointed Elijah as his supreme minister second only to Fard himself. Elijah's appointment was controversial. Among the other church leaders. Many of the nation's leaders were college educated, whereas Elijah hadn't finished third grade. But there was nothing they could do Elijah set to work recruiting new members into the nation of Islam Fard, even sent him to Chicago to deliver sermons and spread the word to new cities with this growth. Public officials and law enforcement became more and more. Concerned about the mobilization of black Muslims and in nineteen thirty to their prejudices were tragically confirmed nine AM on November twentieth. A man named Robert Harris invited his lodger James Smith into his living room as Smith entered the room, he spotted what appeared to be some kind of sacrificial altar. He realized he might be in danger and tried to leave, but he was too slow Harris incapacitated. Smith Harris told his captive that he was planning to fulfill an ancient prophecy that had been commanded by the gods of Islam. He wanted Smith to be a willing sacrifice. Smith wasn't keen on this idea tragically his efforts to convince Harris to let him go where fruitless as soon as the clock struck noon, Harris ritualistically murdered Smith with a knife. We should note this event wasn't racially motivated. Both men were black police track down Harris and arrested him for the murder. Investigators discovered that Harris was a radical Muslim who belonged to an organization called the order of Islam though. This order was separate from the nation of Islam that distinction didn't matter in the ensuing anti-muslim sentiment. Harris also provided police with the list of names of prominent white officials. He had planned to murder, including the mayor and a prominent judge, although the police lacked any proof that Harris was connected to the nation of Islam a warrant was issued for WD farts arrest anyway, Fard was arrested on the morning of November twenty third nineteen thirty two he denied ordering Harris or anyone to sacrifice human beings in the nation's name. However, his teachings didn't make him. Look, very good. He had preached in the past that killing white devils. Would gain one entrance into paradise following his interrogation. The police had Fard forcibly committed to a psychiatric hospital for two weeks during this time far became a noble symbol of religious freedom as well as a symbol for the black community at large in its struggle with law enforcement after Fard was released. He was ordered to leave Detroit law enforcement feared his influence on the black community, which was growing more and more restless as a result of farts arrest far left, Detroit and appointed Elisha as the new leader of the nation of Islam as a symbol of this appointment far granted Elisha his own assumed last name, Mohammad Elijah's early months of leadership were difficult nation. Officials objected to his appointment and broke away forming new Muslim societies. Furthermore, police crackdowns on. Black Muslim organizations throughout nineteen thirty three scared off potential new members and made current followers rethink their membership with the organization in jeopardy Elijah moved its headquarters from Detroit to Chicago. But founded difficult to recruit new converts in nineteen thirty five Elisha moved again to Washington DC to study Islam at the library of congress. He remained there for several years relatively undisturbed. But America's involvement in World War Two saw the nation of Islam embroiled in controversy once again. On may eighth nineteen forty two Elijah was arrested for revealing the draft. He protested the arrest on the grounds that he was forty five and the age range for draft registration was eighteen to forty four. Furthermore, as a Muslim he conscientiously objected to the war effort, despite his protestations Elijah was imprisoned for the war's duration upon his release in nineteen forty six he returned to Chicago where he found a surge of interest in the nation of Islam, his refusal to participate in the war had inspired others and new members began to join in droves in nineteen forty eight Elisha received a letter from one of these new members the man who wrote the letter was serving time at Charlestown state prison for larceny and breaking and entering. He had learned about the nation of Islam and sought Elijah's guidance. His name was Mel. Adam x? Coming up next. 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Hurry to upstart dot com slash nations to find out how low your upstart rate is checking your rate, only takes two minutes and won't affect your credit. That's upstart dot com slash nations. Now back to the story before we begin our coverage of Malcolm X, we wanted to make a quick note. Many facts about the life of Malcolm X are contested. We've done diligent research, and are presenting what we found as the most likely by graphical information on Malcolm X, but please bear in mind that records of his early life are conflicting. Malcolm X was born Malcolm little on may nineteenth nineteen twenty five in Omaha. Nebraska, like Elijah Muhammed. He was the son of a preacher. The Reverend Earl little and his wife. Louise now was a victim of racism before. He was even born one night while Louise was still pregnant a group of men wearing white hoods approached their home on horseback. It was the Ku Klux Klan the Klansman's shouted for Earl to come outside. Earl had preached in favor of black empowerment and the men wanted to run him out of town. Earl wasn't there that night Louise opened the door hoping the Klansmen would be moved by her pregnancy. They were not the horsemen galloped around the house, shattered, all the windows and rode back into the night Earl in the weeds left Omaha after Malcolm was born the Littles settled in east Lansing, Michigan. Again, where they raised Malcolm and his siblings, like his future mentor Elijah Muhammad Malcolm was heavily influenced by his father's preaching. Earl was a Baptist preacher who belonged to the universal negro improvement association or U N I A, which preached black race, purity and advocated for the return to the African homeland Malcolm was skeptical of Christianity and religion in general, but he gravitated towards the U N. I as message and often accompanied his father to meetings. One night in nineteen thirty one. When Malcolm was six he woke up to the sound of his mother's screams. He went to the living room where a group of policemen were trying to calm Louise down. They told him that his father Earl had been killed in a streetcar accident Malcolm believed, it wasn't an accident. Nobody could prove it. But there were whispers in town that URL was attacked by members of the black legion who made it look like an accident in his heart's Malcolm knew his father had been assassinated by nineteen thirty four nine year old, Malcolm his mother and his siblings were in dire. Straits Louise was unable to collect on Earls life insurance policy and had to go on public aid. But the great depression was at its height and the family was destitute Louise's mental state was in decline. She suffered a breakdown in late nineteen thirty eight and was committed. At the state mental hospital in Kalamazoo, Malcolm and his siblings went into the foster system. Despite his turbulent childhood, Malcolm was an adept student. He kept journals and wrote letters which were later acquired by his half sister. Ella we even in these teenage letters of business, someone of remarkable human ability and potential of someone who didn't necessarily need the nation of Islam up to make him into a quite striking figure. Here's professor David garrow of Emory University describing the letters. Papers are mostly from nineteen thirty eight to nineteen fifty five when he was a teenager and young adult the papers. Hold little trace of the man who would later become the leader of the nation of Islam. Instead they show, Malcolm. Harper little a tall skinny eighth grader who lived in a group home in Michigan that Malcolm like jitterbug admired pretty girls and wanted to be a lawyer someday the collection is on loan from an Atlanta antiques dealer. It originally belonged to Malcolm, Xs, half sister, Ella Collins, Chad Myer, Atlanta, despite his bright mind, the lack of support Malcolm received from his white teachers and foster parents eventually led him to drop out of school and moved to Boston to find work. Malcolm got a job shining shoes at the roseland state ballroom. He loves city life and immersed himself in the urban black culture of Boston when World War Two began. Malcolm was only sixteen and was too young to be drafted with most young men going off to fight Malcolm was able to get a good job on the real. Road selling refreshments to passengers the railroad job took Malcolm between Boston and New York City. The first time he stepped foot in Harlem, he knew he belonged there when one of Malcolm's friends told him about a job opening as a waiter at his favourite Harlem bar, he took it without a second thought working at the bar, Malcolm gained a different sort of education. He learned about gambling con artistry thievery and pimping Malcolm was still a good student, and he proved adept at all of these trades. Then now started to sell marijuana and other drugs using his old railroad connections. Malcolm started traveling across the east coast selling his product to touring musicians. It wasn't long before Malcolm was hooked on his own product. When selling pot wasn't enough to support his habit. Malcolm turn to armed robbery while Malcolm was skilled at avoiding the pool. Police he couldn't avoid the scrutiny of local rivals. Now, come ran afoul of a hustler named West Indian Archie who thought milcome had cheated him on a bet Malcolm maintained. It was an honest mistake, but Archie wouldn't budge his honor had been besmirched and on the streets of Harlem that was a much bigger issue than money fearing for his life. Malcolm fled New York and returned to Boston there. He recruited some friends to help him. Rob the homes of wealthy white people. In addition to two friends from his time in Boston, Malcolm convinced a white woman he had dated and her sister to act as his accomplices. One of milk comes friends worked as a waiter for exclusive house parties and could identify targets ripe for burglarizing. The scheme was simple, but affective once the target was selected the two ladies posed as sales women, pollsters or any other job that could get them invited. Into the house that memorize the layout. And report back to Malcolm that night, Malcolm and few men would use the Intel to rob the house. They were never caught in the act at least one day in nineteen Forty-five Malcolm paid a visit to a repair shop. He frequented one of the expensive watches, Malcolm had stolen needed repairs, and he was planning to pick it up. He arrived at the store and found himself face to face. With a squad of police waiting to catch him with the stolen watch trial was racially skewed. The prosecutor in Malcolm's case didn't seem bothered by the act of robbery. He was more upset that Malcolm had recruited white women to assist with his crimes. Now can was sentenced to ten years in prison in February of nineteen forty six. He wasn't even twenty one years old the conditions at Charlestown state prison were bar Barrick the prison. Was built in eighteen o five and hadn't been updated. Since Malcolm cell was so cramped that he could touch both walls while laying on his cot and his toilet was a covered pale during his first year in prison. Malcolm tried to get high by any means possible, I by ingesting, huge amounts of nutmeg and later by purchasing drugs from the guards he often found himself in solitary confinement due to his hostile and uncooperative behavior in nineteen forty seven Malcolm met fellow inmate. John memory Bemba was highly educated, and Malcolm marvel that how he could command total respect with words alone. Bemberg inspired Malcolm to rekindle his academic interests. And he started taking correspondence courses in English and writing in nineteen forty eight Malcolm received a letter from his brother Filbert who told milcome he had joined the nation of Islam. Calling. It the natural religion for the black man, he strongly encouraged. Welcome to join Malcolm was resistant to filbert's suggestion. He was so anti religion that his fellow inmates had given him the nickname Satan. However, he received a similar letter about the nation of Islam from his other brother Reginald, so he reconsidered now siblings wanted to help him turn his life around. But I they needed to see that he was committed to self improvement on Reginald's instruction, Malcolm stopped eating, pork. And smoking cigarettes. Reginald would not explain why Malcolm had to adhere to these rules, which naturally made Malcolm more curious finally Reginald told Malcolm that God had come to America. He had revealed himself to a man named Elijah. Muhammad and had blessed the nation of Islam after Reginald left, Malcolm grappled with what is brother had told him soon. Malcolm got the full court press from his siblings, receiving at least two letters day from them encouraging him to join the nation of Islam, Malcolm was drawn to a life teachings, especially the concept that the original man was black in nineteen forty eight Malcolm decided to write a letter to Elijah Muhammad wanting to know more in his reply Elisha told Malcolm to have courage that he wasn't a bad man, and he could endure this suffering. In nineteen fifty Malcolm made his conversion official by this point. He was actively recruiting his fellow black inmates to follow elisas teachings. He discarded the name little and began signing his name, Malcolm X signifying the true African family name that he would never know. Now spent the rest of his time in jail educating himself at every possible moment, he joined the prisons weekly debate program which introduced him to public speaking and began recruiting his fellow black inmates to the nation of Islam in the spring of nineteen Fifty-two Malcolm was finally granted parole. He decided to go visit his family in Detroit, he stayed with his brother Wilfred who educated Malcolm about the day to day life. That was expected of him as a member of the nation of Islam now began attending meetings at the Detroit temple number one, which WD. Fard had founded in nineteen thirty one. He was surprised that the small space had any empty seats. Malcolm was eager to recruit more members. But Wilfrid told him to hold off until he could meet Elijah Muhammad in person, Malcolm finally met his mentor in September of nineteen fifty two when the Detroit temple traveled to a meeting at elisas temple in Chicago. As the caravan of ten cars, drove from Detroit to Chicago, Malcolm felt giddiness. He hadn't experienced since he was a child. As the meeting in Chicago began, Malcolm was bursting with anticipation would Elisha live up to the great man Malcolm had pictured in his imagination. The moment he laid eyes upon Elisha Malcolm's worries were put to rest just as a lighter had been transfixed when he met w d Fard. So was Malcolm when Elijah here at the rear of temple number two, Malcolm was shocked when Elijah singled him out by name Elisha told the congregation about Malcolm's dedication to the nation of Islam while he was in prison and invited Malcolm and his family to join him for dinner that night, Malcolm found that he was an easy with Elijah Elijah encouraged him to recruit more members, particularly young people who would be more receptive to the nation's message. Now come had been hustling for his entire life just to stay alive. And yet he had never found something that was. Actually worth living for finally after a life of crime and imprisonment Malcolm had found his calling through the nation of Islam just as Elijah had Malcolm was officially part of the nation of Islam hierarchy and his commitment to the cause would take the nation to heights Elisha could have never imagined and would grow to resent. Coming up. We'll discuss Malcolm's rise within the nation of Islam. Love is patient. Love is kind. And sometimes love is deadly some couples may appear happy, but we don't always know what happens behind closed doors every week. The park has networks new podcast crimes of passion. Analyzes, the relationship, dynamics and psychology that lead to betrayal crimes and even murder. 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Although they still had fewer than two hundred members Malcolm would lead caravans of over twenty five cars to meetings in Chicago, where he would have private dinner meetings with Elijah Muhammad Elisha encouraged, Malcolm to start speaking to his assembly in Detroit and in the summer of nineteen fifty three he named Malcolm. The assistant minister of temple number one in Detroit whenever he got the chance Malcolm would make the drive from Detroit to Chicago to spend time with Elijah and his family. He eventually quit his job at the Ford Motor Company and devoted himself. Full time to spreading the nation of Islam's message. He stayed at Elijah's home in Chicago for several months learning everything he could in late nineteen fifty three Elisha instructed, Malcolm. Return to Boston where he founded temple number eleven by March nineteen fifty four the temple was established enough for Malcolm to move on to Philadelphia where he recruited enough followers to found. Temple number twelve. Just two months later, Malcolm was ready to take on a larger role. Elijah appointed him the minister of New York's temple number seven in June of nineteen fifty four. He was finally able to return to his old haunts in Harlem, albeit under very different circumstances. It had been nine years since Malcolm had fled New York in disgrace and his old acquaintances were shocked by how much he'd changed he sought out Archie the man who had forced him to leave the city and the two men reconciled their differences with us violent past firmly in the rear view mirror. Malcolm said about finding new converts for the New York temple progress was slow Malcolm could attract an audience to his sermons. But when he called for people to embrace allies teachings few accepted amid the struggles in New York, Malcolm was able to increase membership at his former temple in Philadelphia and established new temples in Springfield, Massachusetts, and Hartford Connecticut. He was eager to further grow the nation of Islam, but Elijah preached patience by nineteen fifty-six Malcolm's, New York temple number seven had grown enough that Elisha allowed, Malcolm too. Purchase a car to expand his recruitment efforts in the span of five months, Malcolm drove over thirty thousand miles spreading the nation of Islam message during this time Malcolm fell in love with a member of the New York. Temple Betty x who had also shed her given last name. They were married on January fourteenth nineteen fifty eight and their first daughter Ottawa was born that November until that point the nation of Islam hadn't attracted any major media attention and was grown mostly through local grassroots effort. But on April fourteenth nineteen fifty seven an act of violence in Harlem, thrust, Malcolm and the nation of Islam into the spotlight. There are many versions of the story of Hinton Johnson. Even his name is contested in some accounts. He is Hinton Johnson. And in others. He is Johnson Hinton. There are however certain details that are widely accepted a nation member named Hinton Johnson. And a friend were walking down the street when they saw two white policemen. Beating a black man with a night stick Johnson and his friend rushed to intervene. The cop said the man had resisted arrest and order Johnson to move along Johnson tried to pull the policeman away from the man, but the police only turned their ire on Johnson beating and arresting him as well Johnson's friend called Malcolm who mobilized his followers soon over fifty nation of Islam members had gathered outside the Harlem police precinct to demand that Johnson received medical attention. The police try. To say the Johnson wasn't there. Malcolm was unmoved. He urged his crowd to keep up the noise. Eventually they arranged for an ambulance to take him home only, then did Malcolm signal for his people to disperse the next morning. The story headlined the Harlem newspaper, the Amsterdam news the nation of Islam was beginning to attract attention for standing up against racial injustice. In the spring of nineteen fifty nine a journalist named Louis Lomax began filming nation of Islam meetings for documentary, titled the hate that hate produced the film focused on the nation's anti white message, and it sent shockwaves throughout the country for many Americans white and black the documentary served as an introduction to the black nationalist movement. And that made quite a few people uncomfortable soon the nation was under attack for its perceived support of racial violence. Now Cam was furious that the nation was being characterized as preaching violence and hate Elisha. Eventually allowed him to go on the counter attack. Malcolm became the nation of Islam's. Mouthpiece appearing on radio and television panel discussions to debate against their detractors, and Malcolm speeches were incendiary. Here's a clip from nineteen. Sixty one. Whether if in providence, Mississippi, there is not a black man or woman in America who has intelligence who hasn't gone somewhere and around quite and felt like he was a social leper, the nation of Islam started holding massive rallies, which attracted ten thousand people or more and gathered vast sums of donation money soon Elisha and Malcolm were in a position to build the nation of Islam into a force beyond anything. They had ever thought possible in nineteen sixty one the nation of Islam started planning, the construction of a twenty million dollar Islam center in Chicago, but the nation's rallies and sudden growth began to take a toll on Elisha who was by now almost sixty five years old and in poor health, Malcolm took on the featured speaker role at rallies in allies. Instead as well as a large portion of his mentors decision making duties, he began speaking on college campuses. Either making speeches or participating in panel discussions to packed lecture halls and amphitheatres here he is at Brown University. Says that this has made the twenty million black people here in America, just like a dead people dead economically dead, mentally spiritually morally, and otherwise and integration will not bring a man back from the green. Although Malcolm felt his college talks benefited the nation Elijah disapproved of them as a relatively uneducated person. Elisha himself felt unequipped to speak at academic institutions. The first seeds of resentment were taking route between the two men as allies is health. Worsened it became harder for him to be involved in the nation of Islam's day today affairs, his doctors recommended that a dry climate could improve his condition so the nation purchased a home for him in Phoenix now took on more and more responsibility. Sometimes flying across the country as often as four times a week to speak at the over one hundred temples he had helped. Found on top of all this. He maintained a marathon schedule of radio TV and newspaper interviews in addition to his public speaking commitments. To prominence came whispers that he was trying to take power away from Elisha. He vehemently denied this Malcolm was always sure to give credit to Elisha for everything he did. But he noticed that his own accomplishments were barely mentioned in the nation of Islam's newspaper. Muhammad speaks which Malcolm himself had founded Malcolm came to suspect that a faction within the nation of Islam might be working against him. Although Malcolm publicly expressed support and belief in Elisha, he privately began to have doubts about his mentor. Rumors spread that Elijah wasn't adhering to the moral code that the nation of Islam required for several years, Malcolm in heard whispers that Elisha wasn't faithful to his wife Clara. And that he had fathered children with six of his personal secretaries. Finally, Malcolm asked Elijah if the rumors had any. Merritt when Elisa confirmed, they were true, Malcolm was devastated now compelled, he had duty to tell the nations and other high level ministers about what he had learned. He wanted them to prepare for what he believed was going to be incredible backlash against the nation of Islam. But to Malcolm surprise, his honesty worked against him ministers from the Chicago temple made it seem as though Malcolm was telling people about elisas infidelity in order to weaken the nation rather than as a measure to throw water on the fire before it spread too far making matters worse. Malcolm's response to the assassination of president Kennedy on November twenty second nineteen sixty three put him at odds with Elijah within hours of Kennedy's death Elisha instructed his ministers to make no remarks on the assassination, but a few days after Kennedy was killed. Malcolm made a speech at New York's Manhattan Kanter, titled God's judgment of white America. It centered around the theme of as you. So so shall you reap and Malcolm held white leaders, including the late president Kennedy and his family culpable for the continued oppression of black Americans after the speech now can was asked his thoughts on the assassination despite Elijah's order, Malcolm couldn't resist opportunity to speak his mind. He said he thought Kennedy's assassination was a case of the chickens coming home to roost. The hate white men. Harbored had now spread to their own kind. Elijah was furious. In addition to disobeying, his direct order, Malcolm had brought further negative attention to the nation of Islam as punishment Elisha imposed a ninety day period of silence on Malcolm forbidding him to speak to the press as. As well as to his own congregation now an accepted the punishment without complaint, the nation of Islam's only official comment on the situation was that Malcolm would be reinstated in ninety days if he submitted to Elijah's reprimand Asian a few days after his suspension, Malcolm learned about the first of many death threats against him to his shock and dismay these threats came from within the nation of Islam itself. It was in that moment that Malcolm came to suspect that Elijah Muhammad his mentor his instructor his savior may well be plotting to have him killed. Those fears would be realised just two years later at the Audubon ballroom in Manhattan where in nineteen sixty five Malcolm X presided over his final speech. Tune into our next episode for the story of Malcolm X's assassination. Thanks for listening to us asan's. We hope you enjoyed part one of our series on the assassination of Malcolm X. 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Malcolm X assassinated - Feb. 21, 1965
This is Ron burgundy telling you to listen to my podcast. Here's a little something to wet your appetite. You know, we have we have. So the whole crews here. Okay. All right. Okay. I can't believe I saw you defecate. It was reduced to my basic animal form. Romburg any podcast available. Wherever putt guests are found. Hello. Hello everyone. Welcome to this day in history class where we bring you a new tidbit from history every day today is February twenty first twenty nineteen. The day was February twenty first nineteen sixty five Malcolm X, an American activists and religious leader was preparing to speak at a rally for his organization of afro American unity at the Audubon ballroom in New York City. But as he was about to address the audience, someone shouted a racial slur. Then yield kit your hand out of my pocket. Malcolm X told them to be calm and his bodyguards moved to break up the commotion. But as the bodyguards left, Malcolm Xs, watch a man with a sod off shotgun rushed the stage shooting, Malcolm X in the test to more men fired handguns, Malcolm X, the crowd made up of about four hundred people erupted in panic. Malcolm X was rushed to Columbia Presbyterian hospital. We're he was pronounced dead shortly after his arrival. Malcolm X had told reporters the following just days before his death. I don't worry. I'll tell you. I'm a man who believed that I'd I'd twenty years ago, and I live like a man who is dead already. I have no fear whatsoever of anybody or anything. As a Tampa in for black rights. Malcolm X was an advocate of armed self defense and black nationalism his views on separating black and white people and other philosophies he had adopted during his time with the nation of Islam changed in the later years of his life after his pilgrimage to mecca. He began speaking out against the nation of Islam its principles and its leader Elijah Muhammed, but Malcolm X, still faced the resentment of people who considered him violent and threatening as well as members of the nation of Islam who disapproved of his split with the movement. In fact, Malcolm X have been receiving death threats and been assaulted by people in the nation of Islam. A week before Malcolm X was assassinated his house in east L hers. Queens was firebombed. The attackers threw molotov cocktails through the windows, but one bomb that was supposed to go through the back of the house hit the door in didn't make it inside the house. Now, his wife Betty and their four daughters made it out alive. The house went up in flames. In the blaze was put out around three AM. No one was charged with a crime, but the nation of Islam owned the house, Malcolm X and his family. He lived in. And they were looking to a victim Malcolm believed, the nation of Islam was responsible for the attack. So week later when Malcolm X was assassinated and three members of the nation of Islam were found guilty. The case was pretty much open and shut Talmadge hair. Norman three expert ler and Thomas fifteen x Johnson were convicted of murder in March of nineteen sixty six and sentenced to life in prison. Hair confessed to the crime, but Johnson and Butler maintain their innocence in nineteen seventy seven and seventy eight hair submitted affidavits, that reaffirmed his statement that the other two men who had been convicted weren't involved in this assoiation. Instead, the affidavit named four other men from the nation of Islam who helped commit the murder, but the case was never reopened and all three were eventually released from prison. But as it often happens when a major social or political figure is assassinated, that's not where the story ended in the days in years after Malcolm Xs murder conspiracy theories popped up left, and right people blame the MVP FBI and CIA for not having an adequate police presence at the Audubon ballroom, others have accused current nation of Islam leader, Louis Farrakhan. One of Malcolm, X's, assassination and still others are convinced Cohen tail pro as the FBI counter intelligence program was known was the chief orchestrator of the sesame Shen. Cohen tell pro have been targeting civil rights leaders and getting informants to infiltrate their organizations. Many believe that Malcolm Xs, assassins may still be on the loose and in January twenty nineteen a group of more than sixty US citizens called for a new congressional investigation into the assassination of Malcolm X as well as Martin Luther King junior. John F Kennedy, Robert Kennedy. After Malcolm X was assassinated, meaning grieved him as they would a martyr and many others walked the into his fiery rhetoric. Now ex remains a divisive figure in the history of the civil rights era in America. I'm Steph coat, and hopefully, you know, a little more about history today than you did yesterday. I just think it's worth mentioning to that hair Johnson and Butler all later change their names. But I didn't really talk about that. During the story to avoid any confusion hair changed his name to move to heat up dole. Helene Johnson to Khalil Islam and Butler to Muhammad Abdul Aziz, thanks for showing up if you haven't gotten your fill of history after listening to today's episode. You can follow us on Twitter Instagram and Facebook at t the h c podcast, we'll meet here again tomorrow. 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Talking about the Black Panthers today, not the movie they still in theaters that has already made roughly one and a half billion dollars worldwide series against a two hundred ten million dollar budget. As if Disney needed even more money could got pretty soon. We Americans will be living in the United States of Disney not talking about the large cats. It looks super cuddly, but could easily claw your face off right off your skull. And then pop what's left your school like grape and its powerful bad. Kitty joss talking about the black nationalist African American revolutionary group that kicked off in one thousand nine hundred sixty six the Black Panther political party that rose from the ashes of Malcolm X and stood as a fierce fighting example of black power during the civil rights turmoil of the nineteen sixties talking about a very complicated. Very polarizing group of freedom fighters and neighborhood protectors. Not an easy topic for a white dude to cover especially when lived in Idaho. But I'm just dumb enough to give it a go may Nimr. Have mercy on my soul. The Black Panthers have a complex history they fought for racial equality. They fought for a better future for black children. They fought to police. They bought the FBI they fought other revolutionary groups. They fought each other. They did a lot of fighting. And we're going to thoroughly suck their fight. There was at times incredibly racial and at other times at best morally questionable and almost always controversial today on time suck. Happy Monday time suckers work in fucking, wait. Happy black history month to my melatonin enhanced meets acts. He'll Nimrod hill LUSA FINA praise. Bojangles in triple thoughts. Go out to our strict suckers devastated by recent terrible catastrophic flooding read that over twenty thousand homes maven lost just devastating hope. 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And my law enforcement, meet sex, all of you probably gonna hit that note several times today, you know, this is this is just a you'll see as we go through this episode. Why I say this now, but it is just it's a polarizing topic for a variety of reasons. It's just it's very complex. Obviously is the white man. I can't personally speak to what it is like to live as a black American in this or an any era knocking to try to do. So although according to my Twenty-three me results. I'm in fact, point three percent Sudanese point one percent sub Saharan African. Not kidding kidding. About acting like that gives me any any rights. Talk of anything not kidding about the results. But yes, obviously my results. Do not enlighten me in any way, whatsoever to the historical struggle and plight of many black Americans before I dive into the me this episode just know that I I do realism. What is fuck? I know I can't personally relate to widespread racial discrimination on any level just found the story. Fascinating wanted to suck. It follow where the truth and logic took me meets acts of all color, including myself all rationally critically thinking empathetic meets X. Can I hope at least understand what it's like to struggle? Hope we all at least recognize you know, that others are struggling and can empathize with them to some degree. We're all part of the same human experience. Another important is clamor before I go further. I am I am very racist. I just wanted to keep that mind when it comes to polish people many of you know, that I have some extreme prejudice. And and that's not widely accepted, you know, my views. So. I wanted to know that I'm not I'm not ready to accept the polish people as as full fledged human quite yet. And that's my right. And and I'm done with that tire joke. Now for this episode is calcium statement just keeps pulpit of my head. No real. Disclaimer. Now when it comes to issues involved rates, just like politics, religion, gender, you know, etc. Things have a tendency to leave the arena of logic and enter the realm of emotion, real quick sense of shit. And and that is why I'm gonna throw out some numbers to kick off the show a little bit of math numbers that make the case that life on average was unquestionably way fucking harder for black Americans that it was overall for white Americans in the nineteen sixties as it still is overall today, and that's not my opinion. That's a statistical fact has been documented by numerous comprehensive nonpartisan Saudis time after time after time, and if you're thinking, well, not black life isn't easy for me. I'm struggling I worry about rent every month. I know plenty of Latvia way, better off than my poor white s make more money than me make more money than my family ever has I struggle far more and every meaningful way than the people. I know are struggling with. The fuck, dude. I get it. Your feelings. Are valid struggle is real your hardships. Very real hell, yes. They are not denying that one bit. But this isn't about comparing a one individual life for the life of lives of one particular neighborhood or community to another isolated life or another isolated like community or neighborhood. It's about cultural trends, it's about trends. Overall overall tendencies for for the nation itself on average members of every race. But African American doing better than members of African descent United States because typically when it comes to average occasion level average income average incarceration rate. No one has had a rough go of it and black Americans. There are roughly a metric shit ton of staff the back claim up, and the these are liberal agenda numbers take it from, you know, some some some nonsense place from my more socially conservative listeners. This isn't from the liberal media, quote, unquote, you know, take a deep breath, grabs stress ball squeezing the numbers. We re relaying you or to you today are not gathered from white guilt dot snowflake. They haven't been taken from social Justice, warrior dot Crimea fucking river. They're taken from either the US bureau of labor the US census bureau or the US bureau of Justice. And if you think that those organizations are conspiratorially motivated in favor of the plight of black Americans the fucking logical pardon. You might as well turn this off. Now, there's quite literally nothing I can say to make any this appealing to you for those of you still listening, hopefully, everyone here are some numbers according to the US census bureau. The average household income for a white household in two thousand seventeen with sixty five thousand two hundred seventy three dollars average household income two thousand seventeen for white family. The average household income for a black household forty thousand two hundred and fifty eight that means that White House those made just as recently as two thousand seventeen on average over sixty two percent more than black households. Hope you predate those numbers. My demise had to relearn how to use Microsoft excel together, those why US census bureau, why put it in a PDF like every other place would do. Anyway, US bureau of labor statistics taken between two thousand fourteen two thousand sixteen show that the average household income for black Americans was lower than any other ethnic group lower the white American Indian Hispanic multi-race Pacific islander and Asian back in nineteen sixty seven the earliest year that the US census bureau. Data exists for for US how household income by race. And this is just two years after the Panthers were formed no one year after actually the disparity was even greater the and we'll get into the time suck time line for the Panthers here soon. But. Yeah. Back in nineteen sixty seven the median household income for whites forty four thousand seven hundred dollars compared to twenty four thousand seven hundred dollars for blacks, white people may just under eighty one percent more money than black people on average. That's concurrent. It's crazy some serious disparity. No consolation to you. If you're some poorest fuck white person living in nineteen sixty seven, but clearly overall black Americans not doing nearly as well as white Americans. And racist discriminatory practices. You know, culturally politically played a large role in that difference. How could they not according to the two thousand fifteen US census statistics around thirty six percent of white Americans have at least a bachelor's degree compared to roughly twenty two percent of black Americans almost sixty four percent more common for white people on average to have a bachelor's degree than black people as recent as two thousand fifteen the gap was even wider back in nineteen sixty five this is right around when the Black Panther party was formed that year before around fifty one percent of white Americans had graduated high school compared to only twenty seven percent of black Americans whites on average were almost eighty nine percent more likely to have a four year college degree than black Americans damn near ninety percent, more likely. To hold a college degree discrimination for sure playing a large role here generations of discrimination following centuries of actual literal enslavement now, let's talk about incarceration, according to two thousand sixteen bureau of Justice prison statistics, black Americans made up twelve percent of the total US population, but made up thirty three percent of the total US incarcerated population currently serving prison sentences, and I only add that little caveat. Because that differentiates these numbers is people having sense as opposed to people who just might be being held for like an upcoming trial or something white Americans made up sixty four percent of the total population made up thirty percent of the prisoner population and two thousand sixteen black Americans were incarcerated at over five times the rate of white Americans that's an alarming disparity that one was actually not worse in the nineteen sixties. It was just as bad in nineteen sixty lax were also incarcerated five times as often as whites. So why the nineteen sixties? Why did the Black Panthers form in this deck? Well, because as bad as things still were things were getting better due to the civil rights movement. And there was supposed to be getting a lot better. It was now safer to be visibly in publicly furious about racial mistreatment, thanks to new counterculture, the new counterculture movement that it was like a decade before, you know. Now, there was finally a little safer to to show your anger centuries of pent up rage. Reporting out of many African Americans. We've talked about the counterculture movement of the nineteen sixties and previous sucks such as the suck of Charles Manson Jim Jones children of God sucks. Amongst others. The American youth of all races were questioned thority very differently than their parents or grandparents had there was just a growing distrust of the government, partly to do with the growing Vietnam conflict part to do with that JFK assassination. You know, the inspiring leader of many young Americans in the early sixties was JFK, and then assassinated nine hundred sixty three and many believed the government had a hand in it. I still believe that today citizens. Questioning the government at levels not seen since the Bill to the civil war. Many white youths were strongly opposed to the racial segregation of their parents and grandparents generations of grandparents they were embarrassed by they also opposed the growing conflict in Vietnam. Young black Americans particularly disillusioned in the nineteen sixties. They just seen their fathers and grandfathers fighting World War Two and the Korean war Justice honorably as white soldiers and come back to a segregated country. Did not honor them the same as they honored. Why soldiers made them use different bathrooms sleep in different hotels shop in different stores, go to different schools. They were still being drafted into the military to fight honorably for a country that they didn't feel was treating them honorably and wasn't for more comprehensive look into racial segregation. By the way, you can revisit the Ku Klux Klan suck or the Martin Luther King junior suck. I sure you'd existed Civil Rights Act was passed in one thousand nine hundred sixty a federal law that established inspection of local voter registration polls and introduced penalties for anyone who struck did someone's attempt to read. To vote and then the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four was passed which ended segregation in public spaces and band employment. Discrimination on the basis of racist on the basis of race. Excuse me, color, religion, sex or nationality years of fighting and marches and protests and spilled blood, and beatings and death led to the passage of this legislation and things we're now supposed to be better, except they really weren't life for the average black American did not actually get that much better. After this legislation was passed not immediately anyway. And there was a feeling of betrayal of great, betrayal. Why somebody sacrifice to pass this new legislation to end racial discrimination, only to see new laws not being enforced in many places or people? Finding loopholes to get around these laws and still be very discriminatory. Imagine running the longest race of your life. Like, you don't think you can finish your body starting to revolt your muscles or cramping up? You're feeling dizzy your lungs of and burn for miles. He got blisters on your feet starting to bleed your knees aching. No more with every step. But then way out in the distance. You see that finish line? The thought of crossing that finish line is the only thing this keeping you running right? Dealing psychologically, motivating us. Okay. I just gotta get there. I just gotta get there. And then this is over and then I conflict it finished this race. And then with the last year strength. You cross that line you collapse victory. You fucking you. Did it it took everything, but you made it now imagine as you later your lungs are on fire your lips or crack from miles of hard breathing. Imagine some asshole standing over you say what the fuck are you doing? It's race. There's an over the I will never be fucking over you run. All you want. You will never finished. You'll never win. I am magic. That is roughly how the nineteen sixties felt on some level too, many black Americans they won. And then they asked us what was behind door number three. And it turned out to be someone holding a big sign that just said more of the fucking same. I mean, imagine if anybody imagine the feeling of rage, you'd have how dare you? Black Americans continue to suffer widespread. Discrimination economic, social and a qu-. After the passage of that legislation. Many black Americans have been moving to the cities of the north and the west for jobs moving to downtown areas in the forties and fifties this great migration, only define those jobs, then relocate to the suburbs. Many black populations ended up getting concentrated in poor urban neighborhoods called ghettos full of rampant unemployment substantial substandard housing widespread. Social problems such as drug use and crime black Americans seldom selves continuing to be excluded from political representation, universities all sorts of employment. Areas social Stratus such as the middle class. And I know you can point to examples of black Americans who did grow up in the ghettos. This time went to college became doctors lawyers account scientists professors and more who made good living to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. So to speak, those examples are real, but I feel like you also have to admit it's a lot harder to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. If feels like almost everyone in the country, it's stomping on your fucking boots. All the time. I've experienced racism as white man in small ways here and there throughout my life. I personally not been considered for for various comedy festivals. Mostly when I was younger in comedy in the past because they would just tell me straight up some version of the quote, we already have enough. Why guys I have had that said to me, you know, I've had TB concept. I wanted to pitch get rejected before even getting looked at because network was looking for a quote more diversity in programming which is code for anything. But more straight wide dudes. I mean that is a form of racial discrimination and pissed me off every time it happened. But there was always another job waiting for me. If I wanted to work hard. No fort what if I never exp- like experienced anyone considering me for a job because of my skin color. What if there wasn't any other doors being opened, you know, I haven't experienced ever an entire community entire nation. Taking a look at me and just being now. Nope. Next gone. Get out of here. Never lived in constant fear of incarceration, because you know, racist police officers patrol my neighborhood hoping to beat me or or beat someone who looked like me with the club. And I only bring all this up to illustrate that life was indeed harder for black Americans than white Americans in the in the nineteen sixties. And that is why the Black Panthers formed by they formed. They were they'd washed Martin Luther and watch Martin Luther King. The many people have been trying more peaceful protests that wasn't going well all the time. And some people were were sick of trying to go that route or like, no, man. Let's let's give fucking mad. Let's get angry. And let's let's take what's ours. You know, type of attitude and then before the plant the Panthers come along, Malcolm X came along, Malcolm X, paved the way for the pants without Malcolm X. There would be no Black Panthers. The Panthers heavily influenced by the teachings of Malcolm X, a man who will be a subject of a future succomb positive, Malcolm X. Born is Malcolm little was a preacher, son. His father was also an early black nationalist named Marcus Garvey, who died after being hit by a streetcar quite possibly murdered by white supremacists. Strongly opposed to his pro black messages his death left MacOS fan with little. Mhm such little income Malcolm's, mother, cooked dandy, lion greens. She'd picked on the street to feed our kids one point. That's when you know, you're superport like I'll joke about growing up poor and eat a lot of hamburger helper town, Idaho. But someone someone like Malcolm would say you got to eat meat you were fucking poor. You meet in burger Danielson broth made from dandelions pick from cracks in the sidewalk. That's poured. Malcolm's mother was then committed to an insane asylum when he was fourteen I imagine it's hard to not lose your goddamn mind when you're making your kids Daniel and broth Malcolm ended up getting raised the last few years of his childhood in foster homes with other family members after served a seven year prison stint for robbery he committed at age twenty one he became a prominent black nationals leader and minister for the nation of Islam, and Malcolm X came to be known nationally initially because of an incident of police brutality in New York City police brutality more than any other single issue would lead to the formation of the Black Panthers. On April twenty six nine hundred fifty seven Hinton Johnson, a member of the nation of Islam and to other passer-by also nation of Islam members witness police officers beating a young black man with night with their nightsticks. When Johnson shouted you're not in Alabama. This is New York and tried to help them in one of the officers turned on him and beat the shit out of him with his club beaten within an inch of his life. Johnson suffered brain contusions and subdural hemorrhaging. And then after the beating all four black men were arrested someone who witnessed the event found and told Malcolm X, and he and a small group of black Muslims went to the police station and demanded to see Johnson police police initially lied told him to Johnson wasn't even being held there. But then when a crowd of other African Americans hearing about the event hearing about the beating skewed event beating and gathering outside the station grew to about five hundred people the police officers did allow Malcolm X to speak with Johnson. Once Malcolm X saw would have been done to Johnson. He insisted on an ambulance taking him to Harlem. Hospital Johnson was taken to the hospital his injuries retreated. And by the time he was returned to the police station roughly four thousand people were now gathered outside the station an angry mob had formed. Authorities were getting nervous shit was tents inside the station. Malcolm X attorney made bail arrangements for two of the Muslims. Johnson was not bailed. But police did say he could he could. He could go back to the hospital until his Raymond the following day. Malcolm X, he had he had won the war. But he won a battle with officers that day, and so he stepped outside the stationhouse he motioned for the crowd to be quiet once they work, quite he farted one time just one time loudly powerfully poetically triumphantly. It was the signal to crowd waiting for it. And they storm the station in the end fifty riders thirty-five police officers died in additional sixty five officers hundred seventy two riders were wounded four structures, including the pre precinct burned to the ground in the clash that followed that fateful fart. The riot. That right is the origin of the term Bronx cheer? That's right. The Bronx cheer can be traced back to Malcolm X, nineteen fifty seven. It's also known as far her around the world. And that's not true. Malcolm is far this shit. So heavy I gotta ended up from time to time. If Malcolm X that day, no one wrote about it. He didn't say anything, and it's not relevant to the story. What really happened? He did come outside. He gave a hand signal to do crowd and the crowd dispersed. They knew what the hands of the west one police officer would later say, no one man should have that much power within a month. I'm guessing he said some other things that weren't quoted in the techs. Within a month in New York City. Police department arranged keep Malcolm X under surveillance tensions between the place and the black community in New York and around the country were growing, it was issues like this to push Malcolm X to hate not only police officers, but basically why people in general he started pushing an agenda via the nation of Islam that white people were quote devils that blacks were superior to whites. And that the demise of the white race was imminent. He was critical of the civil rights movement, even labeling Dr king junior chump and he called Dr king's nineteen sixty three March on Washington the farce on Washington. Now, do I like this element of his messages fog? No. Of course. I don't I don't like racism in any form. I don't like it when it's white against black. And I don't like it when it's black on white. But while I don't condone Malcolm X's racist rhetoric. I do have more sympathy for him than I do, you know for something like K K K leader, for example, because I feel people will not okay for them to say why is it? Okay. Not okay for either person to say that I don't think but when you're the victim of consistent, racial abuse. And then you and turn like we'll fuck those people. I have more sympathy for you than when you are on the team or on the side of consistent perpetration of racial abuse. Right. Malcolm's rage came from being a member of a race that truly was continually oppressed and victimized by the race that was in political and cultural power in the nation. He was born raised it. I mean, you know, he's different associations. The death of his father. You know, witnessing all these beatings. It makes more sense to me. I guess is what I'm saying doesn't make it more right at the end of the day. But it makes it to me, more understandable. It was the same rage that also would create the Black Panthers. It was the issue of police brutality again that led to their creation and law enforcement time. So was you know, that I love you. You know, I think the overwhelming majority of you are great goddamn citizens. You know, that I how much respect to have you for putting your lives on the line to keep the public. Safe day to day after day. And I'm guessing you also know that some of your co workers, or at least some of your professional predecessors, either are or in pastimes were sadistic racist fucks like some people crave a position of authority to serve and protect others abuse it, right? That's just I I feel like that is just I would like to think commonsense. The world has always had those meet sacs always will and Malcolm X and the Black Panthers after him warn just talking out of their asses when they complained about police brutality, and that wasn't a callback to my silly joke. Either hard to find stats specifically on incidents of police brutality in the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties that can pair police violence towards blacks against violence of any of the race including whites. But but I did find some interesting info that at least illustrates pervasive culture of prejudice that that no job sector, including law enforcement would be immune to in nineteen twenty nine the Illinois association for criminal Justice published. The Illinois crime survey conducted between nineteen twenty seven. And nineteen twenty eight the survey sought to analyze causes of high crime rates at Chicago and Cook County, especially among criminals associate with on. But the survey also provided some unexpected data, although African Americans made up just five percent of the population of the time. They constituted thirty percent of the victims of police killings. You don't get a number like that without a lot of racism, then clearly many of the police that time were far more likely to kill you. If you're black than if you were white using two thousand fifteen data racial minorities made up about thirty seven point four percent of the general population in the US and forty six point six percent of armed and unarmed killings by police they made up sixty two point seven percent of unarmed. People killed by police. Wow, analysis of FBI data found the black people accounted for thirty one percent of police killing victims in two thousand twelve even though they make up just thirteen percent of the US population. Although the data is incomplete because it's based on voluntary report. It's from police agencies around the country. It highlights the vast disparities and how someplace were still using force as recently as two thousand twelve a two thousand eleven to two thousand fourteen study by a university of California Davis, professor found quote evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed. Black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans and that the probability of being black unarmed and shot by police is roughly three point four nine zero three and a half times the probability of being white unarmed shot by police on average. I mean, again, that's a huge different. That's not like a slight statistical anomaly three and a half times. More likely two thousand ten newer governor's task force study examining police on police shootings found even black and Latino police officers face a greater risk of being killed by other police in cases of mistaken identity nine out of ten of off duty police officers killed by other officers and a US nine hundred eighty two have either been black or Latino nine hundred ten. Again, clearly when when people say don't shoot, they're far more likely to be listened to than black people two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen Stanford study police practices and Oakland, California, where the Black Panthers would really get going as a movement found that officers were disproportionately handcuffing blacks two thousand eight hundred ninety African Americans were handcuffed, but not arrested a thirteen month period compared to only a hundred and ninety three white people. When Oakland officers pulled over a vehicle, but didn't arrest anyone seventy two white people are handcuffed compared to nearly fifteen hundred African Americans. I mean, that's an astronomical disparity in racial. Profiling is still a curling occurring now which the stats consistently show is happening happening. Got it safe. To assume the ship was way worse in the nineteen fifties and sixties so much worse in the days before social media YouTube and everyone having a video camera on their phone phone kept everybody, a little more honest. Martin Luther King junior, you know, wasn't leading marches and leading citizens because everything was fine and dandy, Malcolm. Ex- wasn't talking about why Dell's because of the consistent love and respect coming his way from white people. And then in nineteen sixty five the year before our time line was founded or we'll begin to major incidents led to the formation of the Black Panther party was the assassination of Malcolm X in February of nineteen sixty five and the other was the watts riots in August of that year on the evening of Wednesday. August eleventh nineteen sixty five twenty one year old Marquette Frye, an African American man driving his mother's nineteen fifty five Buick pulled over by California Highway Patrol motorcycle. Offer officer Lee Mikus for allege reckless driving in the watts neighborhood of Los Angeles. Adra administering a field sobriety test. Mikus or meniscus. Not whatever place fry under arrest radio for his vehicle to be impounded. Marquette's brother Ronald passenger in the vehicle walked through nearby house bringing their mother Rena price back with him to the scene of the arrest. When Riina prize arrived on the scene. She scolded Frye about drinking and driving as he recalled years later in a nine hundred eighty five interview with your Landau sentinel, and then the situation escalated quickly somebody shoved price Frye was struck price jumped on officer. And another officer pulled out a shotgun and shit got crazy backup police officers attempted to arrest fry by using physical force to subdue him. After community members reported that police had roughed up fry and kicked a pregnant woman angry mobs quickly formed as a situation tense fide growing crowds of local residents watching the exchange began yelling and throwing objects the police officers they'd had enough and a riot broke out. Police came to seem to break up the crowd several times at night, but were attacked when people threw rocks and chunks of concrete at them. A forty six square mile swath of Los Angeles was. formed into an active combat zone for six days. Nearly four thousand members of the California national guard would end up getting called into suppress rioting resulted thirty four deaths two hundred seventy two buildings being damaged burned a hundred ninety two businesses and homes looted two hundred and sixty seven businesses completely destroyed overall forty million dollars worth of damage occurred, which would be three hundred and twenty million in two thousand eighteen dollars while the riots ended the feelings of rage consuming. Many black Americans did not black youth or here, Malcolm X, or we're hearing before he was assassinated, tell them that if white American won't leave them alone. They'll just have to burn the nation to the fucking ground rebuilding, Malcolm X, adamantly believed in bearing arms. He wasn't down with Dr king's. Let's hold hands and pray about shit. He wanted to revolution April third nineteen sixty four he'd actually given a speech, which he encouraged African Americans to use the right to vote in threatened the government with an armed response. If African Americans did not receive full voting equality in the speech. He. Dated. It's either the ballot or the bullet. And that was one one of the slogans that would later be adopted by the Black Panthers in his message to grassroots speech delivered in nineteen sixty three Malcolm X explained that armed self defense. Among African Americans was not only necessary. But also morally justifiable, citing the American revolution. The French revolution Russian revolution. He claimed all involved huge losses of life and outlined a belief that revolution. That does. Not involve bloodshed is impossible. He said look at the American revolution in seventeen seventy six that revolution was for what for land. Why did they want land independence? How was it? Carried out. Bloodshed the French revolution. What was it based on the landless against the landlord? What was it four land? How did they get it? Bloodshed was no love lost was no compromise was no negotiation the rougher the Russian revolution. What was it based on land the landless against the landlord? How did they bring it about? Bloodshed. You haven't got a revolution. That doesn't involve bloodshed as long as the white, man. Sent you to Korea you bled. He sent you to Germany you bled. He saying you to the South Pacific to fight the Japanese you bled. But when it comes to senior own churches being bombed and little black girls murdered. You haven't got any blood? How are you going to be non-violent and Mississippi as violent as you were in Korea? If it is wrong to be violent defending black women and black children black babies and black men than it is wrong for America to draft us and make us violent abroad and defensive her. And if it is right for America to draft us and teach us how to be violent in defensive her than it is right for you. And me to do whatever is necessary to defend our own people right here in this country as powerful shit. A lot of military references in that talk. You know opposition to the growing conflict in Vietnam also was leading to the formation of the Black Panthers. Even before the US ever, really escalated the Vietnam conflict. Young American men were being drafted between nineteen fifty four nine hundred sixty four peacetime drafts from the end of the Korean war until the main escalation Vietnam the peacetime drafts. Inducted more than one point four million American men on average of more than one hundred twenty thousand per year. Many panther leaders would practice preach message of why should we fight and die for a nation that doesn't fight for us United Nations? 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It's just where to hold a group similar in mission statement, but different name. The just barely preceded. The Panthers was the S N C C student nonviolent coordinating committee that formed in Lowndes county Alabama and early nineteen sixty six hopefully, I'm saying Lounes, correct? That's the word. I don't feel super confident about the early organization actually called the Black Panther party started in April of nineteen sixty six the New York Black Panther party. But it was almost immediately infiltrated in place under law enforcement surveillance and dissolves completely within a year. Actually, many panther organizations formed around the country in nineteen sixty six but none really thrived like the Oakland chapter. Huey Newton was born in Monroe Louisiana, and he again, the the co founder born to an impoverished families sharecroppers his family moved Oakland, nineteen forty five when he was just three years old as teenager. He was arrested several times for criminal offenses, including gun possession vandalism and age fourteen grownup at Oakland Newton said that he was made to feel ashamed of being black years later in his autobiography revolutionary suicide. He wrote during those long years in Oakland public schools. I did not have one teacher who taught me anything relevant to my own life or experience not one instructor ever awoke in me desire to learn more or to question or to explore the worlds of literature science and history. All they did was try to rob me of the sense of my own uniqueness and worth. And in that process nearly killed my urge to inquire if only Hugh we had to the curious to turn to help him, right? Five percent. Huey graduated from Oakland technical high school in nineteen Fifty-nine despite not knowing how to read sounds like that high school was even easier than salmon river high school the place. I graduated from and Riggins Idaho would not be surprised if a few of my former classmates also graduated not knowing how to read despite being literate Newton was no dummy he taught himself how to read before attending Merritt college, and Oakland, and then got into the San Francisco school law where he met Bobby Seale years after the dissolution of the Panthers nine hundred eighty he'd receive a PHD in social philosophy from the university of California at Santa Cruz. His dissertation was titled war against the Panthers. A study of repression in America. The other co founder, Robert Bobby Seale was born in liberty Texas son of a carpenter and homemaker when he was eight his family moved Oakland. Seal went to Berkeley, High school dropped out joined the US airforce. He was dishonorably discharged a few years later for fighting with the commanding officer feisty dude leaving leaving the air force. He worked as a sheet metal mechanic for various aerospace. While studying for his high school diploma at night, another guy who's no dummy. He later say, I work in every major aircraft plant in aircraft corporation, even those with government contracts. I was top-flight sheet metal mechanic after earning. His high school diploma Seale attended Merritt community college where he studied engineering and politics until nineteen sixty two in nineteen sixty two. He I heard Malcolm X speak. He was inspired. So inspired. He joined the afro American Association. AA a group on the campus devoted to advocating black separatism and lost interest in engineering through the a group seal met Huey Newton. Every time I say he was a name, by the way, I immediately think of Huey Lewis in the news it just every single time. I say Hewitt's bright away my head. I wanna new drove one woman. Sick Bank pampa one woman crush my call. I'll make them feel three feet. He Lewis anyway, June of nineteen sixty six seal began working at the north Oakland neighborhood anti-poverty center in their summer youth program. Teaching black American history an ethic of responsibility toward other black people living in your black community. He and Newton met Bobby Hutton, one of the original six and seal would describe the Panthers as an organization that represents black people and many white radicals relate to this and understand that the Black Panther party is a righteous Revolutionary Front against us racist decadent capitalistic system. In addition to being influenced by the teachers of Malcolm X who wants to clear himself, a communist in a letter to president Truman opposing US involvement, the Korean war. The black Penn is also heavily influenced by communist and socialist teachings the FBI would declare them communist organization like Malcolm X the Panthers were influenced by the philosophies of Fidel Castro call marks and others. They believed in a link between racism and the capitalist system. Huey Newton and fucking every single Hugh Lewis. I wanna do. She Newton in particular identified as a Marxist lettuce, a Leninist Lennon being of course, the Russian revolutionary who served as the Soviet ahead of Soviet Russia from nineteen seventeen to nineteen twenty four who was heavily influenced by pootie and you put in your lungs by Shirley get to dip pootie third about all that installing suck. If you're confused despite sharing similarities with other African American cultural nationalist organizations, such as universal negro improvement association, and Malcolm Xs nation of Islam to it's the Panthers were commonly compared the Panthers immediately sought to set themselves apart from these other groups, although all of these blacks intergroup shared certain philosophical positions and tactical features the Black Panther party differed on a number of basic points, for example, whereas African American cultural, nationalist, generally, regarded all white people as oppressors the whole white devil. Talk of Malcolm X, initially, at least he Black Panther party distinguish between racist and non racist whites and allied themselves with progressive members of the latter group. You watch videos of old Black Panther demonstrations early ones, and and you typically see a fair amount of white supporters, whereas other black nationalist generally viewed all African-Americans oppressed. The Black Panther party believed that black capitalists and black leads could and typically did exploit and oppress other black people, especially the working class. The Black Panthers were also more militant than other black nationalist groups, look at pictures, and they're often dressed up like soldiers and revolution armed soldiers to really understand what with the pens. We're about you have to give familiar with their ten point program. Which was a a mission statement written by Huey Newton. Shortly before the group even officially formed on October fifteenth nineteen sixty six number one. We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our black community. We believe the black people will not be free until we are able to determine our destiny. Number two. We want full employment for our people. We believe that the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every man employment or guaranteed income. We believe that if the white American businessman will not give full employment than the means of production should be taken from the businessmen and place in the community. So the people of the community can organize and employ all of its people and give a high standard of living. I do understand the desire to have more quality here, of course. But men not to communism. It's amazing. How much you will really in the communism back, then it was a different era. I mean, I communist it was new and exciting to numerous young liberals, the nineteen sixties those who have survived until today, though, I'm guessing the overwhelming majority have a very different opinion of communism now capitalism has eagles for sure. But it's. Even to provide a far better quality of life been communism. I look at the human rights violations in North Korea. Tommy's Russia, Cuba, China. It's Sarah innovative, entrepreneurial capitalism. Fuels new technology increases are centered living you don't see North Korea kicking out ladies graves computers, automobiles medical technology, etc. Now, and I don't have time in this up to go into great detail about the differences between communism and capitalism here to properly illustrate how much better capitalism is Khamis and time and time again failed to improve the human condition. Fuck commun- bojangles. Grouse every time she hears that word is this country ever shifts towards actual communism. I shit you not I will leave I will bounce out to any capitalist nation that will take me. I don't I don't mind some socialism. We do have that. Now already is called, Medicaid or Medicare social security, but communism now, I do understand that when it seems like you and your family and friends never get to be the factory owners like Evert and fuck. Yeah. Let's take you to the people, you know, very very rage against the machine. Gene. Printing tech titan tank tainting tight tank engine like a revolution going on the people like fuck five power that be fight the and then just one do the Banjul Tang Tang. Thank like Doug enough with the goddamn banjo killing the whole vibe, I'm playing the same notes as everyone else. I'm in the same spirit. Printing, Tang commoditised is how contribute to know Doug, get fucking bass guitar or shut up. What if I did it quite tempting painting? Back the ten point program. Number three, one end robbery by the capitalist of our black community. We believe that this racist government has robbed us. And now, we are demanding the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules, forty acres and two meals were promised one hundred years ago as restitution for slave labor and the mass murder of black people. We will accept payment in currency, which will be distributed to many communities to Germans are now aiding the Jews in Israel for the genocide of the Jewish people. The Germans murdered six million Jews the American racists have taken part in the slaughter of over fifty million black people therefore, we feel that this is a modest manned that we make restitution. This is something that I've heard about many many years of often heard of this forty acres and two mules promise, but I've never looked into it until this week. So glad the suck excuse to do. So did the US government promised to give forty acres and two meals to freed slaves following the civil war. The short answer is no it actually did not. But hear me out the. Notion does have historical origins when a union army led by general William to comes Sherman Marston, George in late eighteen sixty four thousands of newly freed black citizens followed along until the arrival of federal troops. They'd been slaves on plantations in that region sherman's army took the city of savannah, George just before Christmas eighteen sixty four while in savannah, Sherman attended a meeting organized in January eighteen sixty five by Edwin Stanton. President Lincoln secretary of war a number of local black ministers. Most of whom had just recently lived a slaves expressed the desires of the local black population. According to a letter journal Sherman wrote a year later secretary Stanton concluded that if given land the freed slaves could take care of themselves and as land belonging to those who rose up in rebellion against the federal government had been declared abandoned by a recent act of congress. There was land to distribute following the meeting. German drafted Sherman drafted an order a general Sherman. Which was officially designated as special field orders number fifteen in this document data. January sixteenth eighteen sixty five Sherman ordered that the abandoned rice plantations from the C to thirty miles inland would be quote reserved and set apart for the settlement of the freed slaves and the region. Okay. So land was promised to freed slaves. However, it was promised by a general in the army who did not have the authority to make that promise bite. It was not a Bill passed through congress and the Senate and then signed into law by the president according to order each family. You'll have a plot of not more than forty acres of tillable ground at the time. It was generally accepted that forty acres of land was optimal size for a family farm general Rufus Saxton was put in charge of administering the land along the Georgia coast or sherman's order stated H families. You'll have a plot of no more than forty acres of tillable ground. There was no specific mention of farm animals. No, two mules. However, general Saxton did apparently provide surplus us army mules to some of the families granted. Plant, and that's where the mule part of the story comes into play. And a lot of people heard about sherman's order because it got a lot of national press New York Times on January twenty nine hundred fifty five printed the entire text on the front page under the headline general sherman's order providing homes for the free negroes three months after Sherman issued his field orders. Number fifteen the US. Congress created the Friedman bureau for the purpose of ensuring the welfare of millions of slaves being freed by war. We talked about this bureau in the KKK suck one. Initial task of the Friedman's bureau was the management of lands confiscated from those who rebelled against the US the intent of congress led by radical Republicans was to break up the plantations and redistricting re oh my God. Redistribute the land. So so former slaves could have their own small farms, but then link was killed fuck. Everything changed. Andrew Johnson became president. And indeed sixty five and Andrew Johnson was kind of a deuce back and Johnson on may twenty eight eighteen sixty five issued a proclamation of pardon an amnesty to citizens in the south who would take an oath of allegiance as part of the pardon process lands confiscated from these people during the war would now be returned to them. So while the radical Republicans had fully intended for there to be a massive redistribution of land from former slave owners to former slaves under the reconstruction and land was actually in fact, given to many former slaves Johnson's policy came in and fucked everything up approximately forty thousand former slaves receiving received grants of land under sherman's order, and then all of that was taken away by Andrew Johnson. So while there was no law or presidential promise of forty acres in two meals. There wasn't attempt at restitution that. Was then revoked do I think of some form of restitution should be given to the descendants of slaves. Yes. But I don't know what it should look like, it's so complicated. It would be easy to say. Oh fuck. Yeah. Fucking money land. Yeah. Everything whatever's fair make it happen. But that's not how life works does the US government. Even have the ability to pay out the money that would be required. And if the descendants of slaves should get money. What about American Indians, which they get who pays for all that now tax payers, what about taxpayers whose ancestors weren't even in this country prior to eighteen sixty five is that fair the more you think about it the more complex it gets? Arthur any other groups of Americans who aren't African American also trapped and cycles, a multi generational socio economic disadvantages who else should be given some money. It's tricky, which is why should be looked into and not ignored people smarter than me to take some time to actually dig into issue every people tried and unfortunately didn't go anywhere every year between nine hundred eighty nine in two thousand seventeen a Representative John Conyers from Michigan democrat introduced the commission to study. Reparation proposals for African Americans act as the name indicates h r forty did not require reparations who just to look into it a study. It's just called for the comprehensive research into the nature and financial impact of African slaves as well as the ills inflicting on black people during the Jim crow era, only, then can remedies be considered or suggested in every year, the Bill stalled Democrats and Republicans everybody everybody shouted down every year every single year for nineteen years. It's fucking embarrassing. What about targeted education and job training programs for the descendants of slaves whose families have been trapped in cycles of poverty for over one hundred fifty years, can we at least look into that. I think shame on us for not ever actually considering it back to the ten points down. Number four. We want decent housing fit for the shelter of human beings. We believe that if white landlords will not give decent housing tour black community than the house and the land should be made into cooperatives. So that our community when government aid or with government aid can build and make decent housing for his people. Again. I don't like to. Communist angle, but you know, but decent affordable housing should absolutely be made available to everybody. We want -education. Number five. We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our history and a role in the present day society, we believe in an educational system that will give people a knowledge of self if a man does not have knowledge of himself and his position in society and the world then he has little chance to relate to anything else. Couldn't agree more. The curriculum taught to kids in school seems to be way more diverse now than it was I was kid based on what I've seen with Monroe. So I feel like things are moving in a good direction. That's helium rock. That's good. When I was a kid. I don't learn shit in school about Africa or the Middle East or really anything other than just information filtered through a Judeo-Christian kind of western European Lintz like the best way to be racist and prejudice to only look at the world through your little bubble. Right. Your little cultural and racial point of view. Traveled to enough other nations read enough foreign literature, and you will realize if you keep an open mind, we're all pretty much the same. You know, when you when you get down to the core of it. We're all involved in the same struggle. We've got different ideologies, you know, different religious and political notions. But but deep down everybody pretty much wants the same shit. Number six, we want all black men to be exempt from military service. We we believe that black people should be forced to fight in the military service to defend a racist government that does not protect us. We will not fight and kill the people of color in the world who like black people are being victimized by the white racist. Government of America. We will protect ourselves from the force and violence of the racist. Police and the racist military by whatever means necessary. There's a little Malcolm X, whatever means necessary, I understand the logic here. But maybe maybe this. Why shouldn't have been written down? This read is declaration of war. And when you're fighting a nation with too many soldiers and weapons feud ever even hope to defeat them. Maybe he's gonna keep that quiet. Maybe maybe have number six discussed internally secretly never written down. If you don't want to get a the FBI's kind of wash. I like if I ever want to start a revolution. It's going to be it's gonna be like fight club. Right. I rule of overthrowing the government. It's not fucking talk about overthrowing the government. Which was I do realize create some organizational problems number seven. We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people. We believe we can end police brutality and are black community by organizing black self-defense groups that are dedicated to defending our black community from racist. Police oppression and brutality the second amendment to the constitution, the states gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all black people should arm themselves for self defence. Yeah. I mean, I agree. The main point of having an armed citizenry is to prevent your government from being becoming radical and abusing you got a lot of emails after my gun control suck a while back. Let me know that despite our military having superior weaponry in armed populace still absolutely helps keep our government in check through the threat of insurgency. You know, we want number eight we want freedom for all black men held in federal state county and city prisons and jails we believe that all black people should be released from their many jails and prisons because they have not received a fair and impartial trial. Mailer change the wording on this one. How about we believe that all black and made it other cases reviewed by fair. Juries mix. Juries while many black inmates have been wrongly incarcerated not all black inmates were in jail because they were the victim of racism many were there because he broke laws. But again, I understand where this is coming from the Senate we want number nine we want all black people to be able to take any and all property from the descendants of slave owners effective now this includes physical property financial property intellectual property in sexual property. Your body's will be ours. You white devil, motherfuckers. That's that's intense. And that's that's not number nine who that'd be too much. That'd be who can't launch a revolution? When you're when you're that aggressive right at the rip number actually confused myself. I wrote that down on my notes, and then forgot I had done a lot. And I was like what the fuck. How did they think they would fucking get away with it? You can't take people's land right now. What the fuck? Oh. Oh, yeah. I made that up. I was the one who can meet up that light? Number nine said, we want all black people when brought to trial to be tried in a court by jury of their peer group or people from their black communities as defined by the constitution United States. We believe that the court followed the United States constitution. So the black people will receive fair trials to fourteenth amendment of constitution gives them in a right to be tried by his peer group appear as a person from a similar economic social religious, geographical environmental historical, racial background to do this. The court. We'll be forced to selected jury from the black community from which the black defendant came we have been and are being tried by all white juries that have no understanding of the average reasoning man of the black community. I do love that one all white juries deciding black trials especially during the racist. Nineteen sixties that's fucked. That's pretty fucked up should not have happened. And finally. Number ten. We want land bread housing education, clothing, Justice and peace win in the course of human events. It becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands, which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth separate and equal station to it's the laws of nature and nature's God. Entitle them a decent respect the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impelled him to the separation. We hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights that among these are life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that securities rights governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed that would ever any form that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends. It is the right of the people to alter or abolish and institute. A new government lane is foundation on such principles as an organizers powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness prudence. Indeed will dick. Nate that governments long established not be changed for light and transient causes and accordingly. All experience has shown that mankind or more disposed to suffer while evils or self Rable than to right themselves by policy into forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses, and you serpents user for petitions usurpation fucking sorry that we're losing right now pursuing invariably the same object advances designed to reduce them. Under absolute despotism is their right? It is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guard for the future security who that's mouthful us. Lots lot of info, I love it. I mean, they never had a chance to over to the US covered. But I love the spirit of this message is like, yeah. When the government turns it isn't serving the people time to overthrow the government. I love America and and loving it should include wanting to destroy if ever loses its way, right? The only reason America was started was to be able to pursue the American dream be able to work your way into owning a home, sending your kids to college chasing, a nice week time for yourself and inheritance for future generations and for Huey Bobby. People living in their neighborhoods as damn near impossible. If I was him. I would I would feel the same rage. I imagine I'll probably fuck it. Hey, the white people would wanted to burn this country to the ground, and if we ever become as racist and hateful as we used to be if we ever stop evolving towards more and more exceptions for people of different sexual preferences, skin colors, cultural affiliations religious or non religious belief systems gender identities it cetera. It would become more and more intolerant. As opposed to tolerant that I hope we do burn this motherfucker to the ground and start over. Let's not make America. Great again. It's great for everyone for the first fucking time. It's been great before. But only selectively never great for everyone. That's why I've always hated that slogan. Wasn't great for women workplace sexual harassment and date rape was basically a cultural. Norm, wasn't great for homosexuals. When they were given the Matthew Shepard treatment time and time again wasn't great for Asians when they were being run on the fucking towns and thrown into shallow graves while they built railroads and worked mines wasn't fucking great for intercity black Americans when they were. So scared of police they felt I needed to arm themselves and follow the police, and if you want to read. Politics into this rant. That's on us. 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The Black Panther party began organizing police patrols started doing what they called Kopaci open carry laws. This is fascinating to me. Open. Carry laws of the nineteen sixties allowed citizens to openly carry loaded weapons in hand, basically wherever they placed long as you pointed somebody openly threatened them with it. You can just walk right into Macy's. You can walk in with a loaded. Shotgun semi-automatic military style rifle safety off. Got to say, I'm a gun owner. And I am so glad you can't do that shit. Now. I'm so glad you just can't walk into a bar with a loaded rifle in hand carrying a firearm, directing your hands now, particularly in a fire position or combat stances known as brandishing a firearm, and that's a cry even where I live in Idaho. Which is a very permissive open carry state actually, the current law in Idaho section one section eighteen three three zero three reads exhibition or use of a deadly weapon every person who not necessary self defense in the presence of two or more persons draws or exhibits any deadly weapon, a rude angry and threatening manner or who in any manner unlawfully uses the same in any fight or quarrel is guilty of a misdemeanor misdemeanor. What? That's pretty crazy that if if I'm interpreting this correctly, I could pull out a loaded gun at Denny's here in quarterlane, I pointed to ceiling as long as that point somebody just kind of casually wave it around just yell style. Fly guitar away from our pancakes. Give my goddamn pancake coffee. Water's cold warm up McAfee water giving thanks. So we can put the gun away you fucking pancakes. Stop wave gun around as soon as I can use the gun hand to grab some tastiest butter and syrup and Charlotte in a fucking Gullit. Give them pancakes. Get angry. After all that I could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor as mind blowing. A Mr. common is the court finds you guilty of carrying your weapon in a rude threatening manner. I didn't threaten anyone you're on. I didn't I didn't threatened shit. Nonetheless. It is most definitely rude. The wave you got around at Denny's demand. Pancakes was a to a Titian unnecessary profanity, the court hereby orders you to pay at your convenience, a two hundred dollar fine. I should do it right shot by also wasn't illegal to follow the police and carry whatever weapons they please. So the Black Panthers did exactly that they would follow the police while other officers would follow them it had enough of police brutality. And we're ready to protect their neighborhood again by any means necessary. One of their slogans taken from alcoholics if control confronted members would site laws they proved that proved they did nothing wrong with threaten to take court action. If the police violated, their constitutional rights, the Black Panthers were huge gun rights advocates. They walked around rifles and hand quite often the aggressive means which yielded the right to cure. It would actually lead to California. Now, having some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation. That all got started with the Black Panthers. How nervous does it? Would it make you if you're Oakland police officer, right? He's on patrol just. Hey, Greg that guy was doing about seventy in thirty five. Don't you think we should maybe pull him over a, hey, hey, Chad. Do you see those guys in the car? Holy shotguns, three seven sin about a block behind us. Oh, yeah. You see those guys. That's why we're going to let that go. So so so we're just gonna let everyone just get away with everything know hell, no chat soon as we see some white doodoo sounds. We are going to arrest. A fuck out of him. Further adding detention with local police do Black Panthers began casn referring to all law enforcement officers as pigs chanting things loudly while armed like the revolution has come. It's time to pick up the gun off the pigs not great for community. Police relations January nineteen sixty seven. The Black Panther party opens its first official headquarters in Oakland in a storefront publishes. The first issue of the Black Panther black community news service in February of sixty seven membership numbers. Get a bump when the Black Panthers escort, Malcolm X's, widow through the Oakland airport giving a little prestige public association between Malcolm mountains, widow in the group gives them some revolutionary legitimacy. New Black Panther recruits are required to learn how to wheeled weapon had to clean and shoot guns. In addition to understanding the right to carry firearms, and how to communicate that right to the police in California. Huey Newton the law on display when he and sealer stopped by Oakland. Police officers and early nineteen sixty seven in a vehicle filled with weapons. When questioned about the guns Newton simply replied that. The only thing he was obliged to do is give his identification name and address at the request of the officer Newton stepped out of the car rifle in tow and refuse to explain why he and other Black Panthers were carrying weapons as onlookers gathered. The police tried to disperse the crowd while Newton welcomed the crowd to gather and come over. He knew that under California law bystanders could legally view arrest as long as they didn't intrude since there were no violations for the police to charge Black Panther members with and a growing number of witnesses. They were able to leave the scene without any trouble from law enforcement, man, that's Esam balls that is some balls. And again, I love law enforcement officers. We need him to keep the general public safe. However, being a law enforcement officer doesn't give anyone the right to abuse law the best law enforcement officers public servants, not not Bitlis Bitlis. Not Bill guys you hear here. Don't be Billy. What are we just kept going to didn't clarify not Billy's don't on not Williams, not belly's not bills? So don't be. Bill, but a bumper sticker drive around town, no force officers. Not bullies abusing very loss. There's one to protect or sworn to uphold kinda talk English now. Well, Tomase that I can do a podcast April twenty fifth nineteen sixty seven the Black Panther party newspaper. Features the boldface headline why was Denzel Dowell killed to rally action over the death of young man shot by police in northern Richmond. A small impoverished all black town. Actually north Richmond about fifty miles north of Oakland in the early morning hours of April. First nineteen sixty seven in north Richmond, Denzel Dowell lay dead in the street. Police said the Dowell a twenty two year old construction worker having killed by single shotgun blast to the back and head they claimed he'd been caught burglarizing liquor store and when order to halt fill to do so, but the corner told a very different story, his body bore six different bullet holes. And there was reason to believe Dalla had been shot while surrendering with his hands raised high. His mother said I believe the police murdered my son an all white jury found the Dow's deaths was justifiable homicide after just thirty minutes of deliberation. Many people north Richmond did not agree. The newly formed Black Panthers did not agree and rush to meet with the Dow family and get more details about what happened. They started holding street corner rallies protesting his death as an act of police brutality confronting officials arguing that only by taking up arms because the black community put a stop to police brutality on our one Sunday. The police. Came knocking on MRs dowels door while Newton was there. And when she opened the door Huey later recalled a policeman pushed his way in asking questions, I grabbed my shotgun. Stepped in front of her telling him either to produce a search warrant or to leave. He stood for a minute shocked, then ran out to his car and drove off against guy, no shortage, Ables emboldened by this confrontation, Newin Newton and Seale plan to rally and a few days later in the spring nineteen sixty seven the Panthers showed up armed and in uniform and closed off the street. Black leather jackets. Black berets many wearing sunglasses all with guns and hand. I gotta say looking pretty dope is fuck Panthers. Had no shortage of swag word had spread almost four hundred people of all ages came to the rally many working class and poor black people from north Richmond showed up wanting to know how to get the measure of Justice for Denzel or den then D E N L. Denzel Dowell an intern how to protect protect themselves and their community from further police attacks people lined up both sides of the block some elderly residents. Brought lawn chairs to sit in while. They listen some of the younger generation climbed on cars. Grab some popcorn watch this show. Some police cars arrived on the scene but chose to keep their distance a contra Costa county helicopter patrol above. According to sheriff spokesman to department took no other action because the Panthers broke the laws and as required display their weapons openly neighbor showed up with their own guns. One young woman who had been sitting in her car got out held her up her m one when rival for everyone to see the Panthers pass out applications joined their party over three hundred people fill them out according to FBI informant. Earl Anthony he had never seen black men. Command. The respect of the people the way that Huey Newton and Bobby Seale did on that day craze at the FBI was already watching the FBI is going to become a very big part of the story here soon this rally in the. Actions of the Panthers in general over the past few months scaring, the shit out of California government following the rally Don Mulford for quickly drafty Mulford act, a Bill that would prohibit the carrying of loaded firearms in public when Newton seal and other Panthers caught wind of this new legislation being proposed. They quickly organized a protest. That's my favorite part of the story on may second nineteen sixty seven panther chairman. Bobby Seale, led a group of thirty fully armed Black Panthers to the California state capital and Sacramento, then governor Ronald Reagan happened to be there. He was there that day, given a given us speech. The news crews that were covering him quickly shifted to interviewing and filming the newly-arrived Panthers before entering the capitol building. Bobby Seale read a written statement on the capital steps right in front of governor. Reagan saying the American people in general and the black people in particular must take careful note of the racist, California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless seal and five others end up getting arrested in the protests, but not for gun charges. The. Group pled guilty to misdemeanor charges of disrupting legislation. It isn't Sanders. Pictures of them just inside the capitol and just right in front just holding openly holding shotguns, and assault rifles. The following months in June and July of nineteen sixty-seven there. There were massive race riots and cities like Cleveland Newark, Chicago and Detroit the city of Newark, New Jersey erupted in violence as black residents battled police following the beating of a black taxi driver, leaving twenty six people dead. Twenty six the nineteen sixty seven Detroit rides from the most violent and destructive riots and US history by the time the bloodshed burning and looting ended after five days. Forty three people were dead three hundred and forty two injured nearly fourteen hundred buildings burned some seven thousand national guard in US army troops have been called into service. It all started that one with the rate of an illegal nightclub on twelfth street. Twelve street in Detroit hotspot of intercity, nightlife, both legal and illegal at the corner twelve th street and Claremont a man named William Scott operated. A blind pig which was an illegal after hours club might be twelve th street in Clermont actually on weekends out of the office of the United community league for civil actions of rights group of the police vice squad often. Rated establishments like that on twelve th street and at three thirty five AM on Sunday morning, July twenty three they moved against Scott's club on that warm, humid nights, Scott was hosting a party for several veterans, including two servicemen recently returned from Vietnam and the bar's patrons were reluctant to leave the air conditioned club out in the street. A crowd began to gather as police waited for vehicles to take eighty five patrons away an hour pass before the last person was taken away by that time two hundred onlookers headline the street, and then a bottle crashed into the street, the remaining police ignored it. But then more bottles were thrown included one through the window patrol car. The police fled is a small riot than erupted within an hour. Thousands of people at spilled on the street from nearby buildings looting began on twelfth street and clothes shops and businesses were ransacked around six thirty AM the first fire broke out and soon much of the street was ablaze by mid morning every policemen and firemen in all of Detroit was called to duty on twelfth street. Officers fought to control the unruly mob firemen were tacked as they tried to battle the flames things just got worse from there. Yeah. Phenomenon called white flight white middle-class city residents. Fleeing urban centers live in the suburbs in the forties and fifties and sixties reduce tax base in formerly prosperous downtown neighborhoods creating urban blight poverty, racial discord for the resins who remained who were largely impoverished racial minorities of poor urban underserviced, black neighborhoods police almost entirely by why white law enforcement didn't make good mixed didn't make for a good nonviolent mix and then in late July of sixty seven the state capital demonstration in may in California that given the Panthers tremendous amount of national exposure increased membership levels, and ultimately didn't stop the Bill from passing both the state assembly and Senate I run if he that Bill got the full support of the NRA in addition to repealing open carry laws in California Mulford made it illegal to take firearms into the capital on July twenty eight the Bill was signed into law by governor Reagan later commented that he saw no reason why on the street today. A citizen should be carrying loaded weapons. The Panthers can no longer now openly and. Legally carry loaded weapons while they follow police. So this puts a serious dent in the revolution. On October twenty eighth nineteen sixty seven the Oakland chapter of the Black Panther movement. It's another snag when Panter minister of defense. Huey Newton co-founder involved in a shootout with Oakland police after a traffic stop officer. John fray is killed Newton is shot in the abdomen tracked. When Oakland hospital. He's arrested and charged with first degree murder new leader step into to keep the movement going while Newton is incarcerated panther member. Eldridge cleaver who joined the party after being released from prison on December. Second began the movement to free. Huey a struggle. The Panthers would devote considerable amount of attention to in the coming years while the party would spread his roots further into the political spectrum forming coalitions with various other revolutionary parties opinions on Eldridge cleaver. He's interesting character in the story, they wildly when you watch interviews of former Black Panthers, essentially, most seemed to think that he was either a visionary genius or a complete fucking maniac or both. Cleaver was attracted to the Black Panthers. Because of their focus on armed struggle. Cleveland was an inmate of correctional institutions in California almost constantly from junior high school days until nine hundred sixty six for crimes ranging from position marijuana to rape to assault than ten to murder while in prison. He also became a fan and follower of the teachings of Malcolm, X and Karl Marx. He also wrote essays that will be collected into soul on ice, the essays cleaver documented, his the essays in the soul on ice book documented clear evolution into a radical black liberationist and became a very highly informational. Influential highly influential book in the black power movement. The book was and remains fairly controversial the central premise of the of the book is the is the trouble of identification as a black soul, which has been colonized by impressive white society that projects brief narrow vision of life as a terminal truth in the book cleaver admitted to raping black girls as a practice run before seeking white. Women is prey but claims that in jail he'd come to consider those acts as inhuman. Well, that's good Jesus. Not sure you could earn that same forgiveness and be part of any kind of social Justice movement today to that. Now, I'm sorry. Oh, well, did did you actually just say that you raped black women as a practice run to learn how to more effectively rape white women. Did you just say that? Okay. You did. Okay. I thought I heard fucking crazy. Duct your participation revolution is over now. Effectively. Now, you can join possibly the rapist who promised not to rape anymore revolution. If that is a thing along with ten other books such as slaughterhouse five by Kurt Vonnegut black boy by Richard Wright. The naked ape by Desmond Morris soul on ice would be part of a nineteen eighty two supreme court case when a Long Island New York school district sites remove these books from his libraries due to them being anti-american, anti-christian anti-semitic and just plain filthy. The supreme court ended up with the split ruling in this case. I. Love the legal language of just plain filthy. I like how that was added there. And why would you last these books removed from your school, libraries, they're just playing filthier honor defined filthy, then nastiest fuck your outta there. Like the like vomiting shits thrown in the same bucket swelled around dumped on top of some rotten meat then eaten then vomited and shit back into the same bucket for someone else to take their crack at it there, filthy your oughta, they're just plain Fethi. Elders was supportive of taking what you felt was yours to any means necessary. Again, that by any means necessary one of his coach was we shall have our manhood. Now, we shall have it or the earth will be leveled by our attempts to gain it. That's kind of a rape quote my read into that now. But it seems kinda Rabi for rapist to be talking about taking mandate. And if you'll excuse me, I'm going to keep this recording. I have to take a sip water. This is the longest in uninterrupted chunk between segments. I think I've ever done on time suck. Wow. Throat getting dry. One black power rally Eldridge said about then California governor Ronald Reagan. And I quote, this is one of the things that made simple people like I might be a little mental unstable. He said he's a punk Assissi and a coward. Now challenge him to dual challenge him to a duel to the death until he says uncle Eldredge, and I give him a choice of weapons he could use a gun a knife a baseball bat or Marsh metal all beat him to death with Marsh metal. That's how I feel about him. Not surprisingly Reagan, not a huge Eldredge fan around this time when cleaver taught a class at UC Berkeley a few years later when Reagan heard about it. He said if Eldridge cleaver is allowed to teach our children, they may come home one night and slower throats, ironically, a little footnote to the story, ironically Eldredge would then later become super conservative and openly endorse Reagan when Reagan ran for president elderly would also later become a Mormon a religion that is pretty conservative and and pretty white. I gotta say it feels like maybe one of the white religions, I guess people can change another new member of the party to take leadership position wants Newton was behind bars was Stokely Carmichael, the former chairman chairman of that Alabama student nonviolent coordinating committee and a nationally known proponent of black power. He becomes the party's prime minister in February nineteen sixty eight and Stokely was arguably far less rapes and Eldridge and by less. I mean, not at all nothing. I can find their way more racist pretty racist. He was Adam. Against allowing Weiss into the black liberation movement at any level. He felt that whites could not relate to the black experience do agree with and that they would have an intimidating effect on blacks, which I can't disagree with since. I'm not black. However, you've just also when you do this given a huge middle finger to any white person who wants to help you who wants your move into exceed. And since there were about nine times as many white people in America as there were black people that time you've put a big fucking nail in your coffin. Right. You've you've put a huge down the coffin of your own movement by doing that at so many points in the suck. I feel so much empathy as much as why dude can for this movement. Like, it must have been so nice for for young black children to see such strong black role models who are not afraid of standing up to those who oppress them for so many generations. But when you go full us versus them and tally when all white people become the problem, you lose just like when racist label all black people, the proper all Mexicans is the problem. That's not how. Humanity works. You can't function that way in you know, for any long jeopardy. Ten kind of real movements not not anymore. Thank God, not all white people were in favor of slavery. Even even during the height of slavery. I think about this this logic, this type of logic in today's polarized society. Like whenever somebody has an attitude of fuck Republicans or fuck Democrats, or when they think that all conservatives are this way or all liberals that way, they're always wrong. Yeah. Just like as bad lazy writing to make a villain in a movie like all evil cartoonish -ly, you know, just a caricature of evil. It's bad. Lazy thinking to believe that you know, certain real people are all bad or that? They're all part of the problem, unless you're talking about defining them by a certain behavior that makes it the the defines the group that they belong to like all convicted pedophile 's are bad babysitters. That's definitely true defa drew all convicted pedophile cz are a terrible babysitting. I opposition. I that's got to be true. But anyway, you you say on April fourth nineteen sixty eight civil rights leader, Reverend Dr Martin Luther June Jesus Christ. Somebody fucking words start over on April fourth nine hundred sixty eight civil rights leader that I do understand why NPR and those kind of places where they talk that way. It's so much easier to say words, right? If you like on April fourth nineteen sixty eight civil rights leader, Reverend Dr Martin Luther. King junior is assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee. I mean, I could my pronunciation, you know, correct percentage would go way up if I lost all passion for what I was saying and just spoke in a in a manner that makes twenty to forty percent of the population wanna kill themselves unable for days. Nineties or is there ever known run? Don't see that. Hopefully, Audubon guess anyway, the real Reverend doctor. He's assassinated Memphis years later. The king family would hire attorney. William Francis pepper to investigate king shooting, and he would present evidence from seventy witnesses and four thousand pages of transcripts and pepper alleged in two thousand three book an act of state that the evidence implicated the FBI CIA army and Memphis police department and organized crime in the murder of king while the government was improving in court to be involved. There remains widespread speculation that they helped kill king, or at least allowed it to happen and many Panthers at the time did think the law enforcement was involved and they were understandably fucking angry. They decided to strike back by organizing attack on Oakland. Police officers of very much an eye for an I'm tally here. So two days later after king's assassination, April six nine hundred sixty eight seventeen year old panther treasurer. Bobby Hutton's killed by police during a violent confrontation west Oakland Panthers. Maintain that Hutton was shot. While. Unarmed and with his arms raised to surrender on April. Six Cleveland, fourteen other Panthers lead an ambush of Oakland police officers during which two officers were wounded Cleveland was wounded during the ambush seventeen year old again, you know, Black Panther member. Bobby Hutton killed. A Panthers were armed with m sixteen rifles and shotguns years later in one thousand nine hundred although the the package would say the time like, you know, he was unarmed was years later nine hundred ninety cleaver when Eldridge cleaver returned to the country after fleeing in the wake of this gun battle charges, and it came out of this battle against him. He would stay that. He had led the panta group on a deliberate ambush of the police officers and provoke the shootout he also at this time, just credited the Black Panthers, stating we need polices heroes. Now. Some speculated his admission could have been pay off to the Alameda County Justice system who judge had just days earlier, let Eldridge cleaver escape prison time cleaver will be sentenced to community service after getting charged with three counts with salt against three Oakland police officers so disputing stories about who is. Vault here police or the Panthers a documentary on Huey Newton. A Huey Newton story claims that Bobby Hutton was shot more than twelve times after he had already surrendered and stripped down to his underwear to prove he was not armed so very conflicting stories air on September eighth. Nine hundred sixty eight jury acquits Newton of his murder charge, but convicts him voluntary manslaughter, and this was for that earlier different police. Shootout charge Newton. I sense the two to fifteen years and then free Huey demonstrations. Intensify around the nation two days later on September tenth rifle. Shots are fired into Black Panther national headquarters in Oakland poster in the front window of Newton holding a gun while seated in an African wicker chair is apparently the target two and talks and toxic hated off-duty. Oakland police officers are blamed for the incident and dismissed from the police force. So the tension between the Bayard place in the Panthers, obviously is continuing through the fall of nineteen sixty eight activism builds around the notion that Newton is a political prisoner the free. Huey campaign leads to the opening of Black Panther chat for more. A twenty dollars city. So, you know, positive part of his incarceration is that. It's building the movements. More and more people are joining because of. You know, because of you know, a public awareness of the Black Panthers due to their free. Huey demonstrations. An after the after these other chapters were opened the free breakfast for children program is launched in Saint Augustine's Piscopo church Oakland this to me that this free breakfast for children program. Maybe the coolest accomplishment of the Black Panthers. As far as out of just like one, individual accomplishment, inspired by contemporary research about how important the role of good breakfast was in kids ability to learn basically, you can't pay attention class if you're super hungry. The Panthers began to cook and serve food to the poor inner city youth of the Oakland area the program became so popular by the end of the year that the Panthers set up kitchens in cities across US feeding over ten thousand kids every day before they went to school in November of nineteen sixty eight young Fred Hampton joins the movement. Fred Hampton, my favorite panther. You're gonna find out why here soon like if the Panthers were made into action figures, I would have wanted to Fred Hampton action figure and the Fred hands and figure it would probably have to occasionally. Take the Eldridge cleaver action figures side and just whisper something like, you know, you know, the rape super felt Albright. Like, you, you know, wrong a good for you for admitting it, but it cannot happen again. It should have never happened. I don't know why you're still even here. But if it happens again, I gotta put you down. I gotta put you down. Anyway, Hampton had just turned twenty eight twenty years old. Yes. Sorry, just twenty when he joined the movement. He was a gifted student and a gifted athlete dreamed of someday playing center field for the Yankees. He graduated high school and may will annoy suburbs. Chicago with honors nineteen sixty six he was enrolled in TRITON junior college in nearby river grove Illinois studied, pre law he and fellowship cog area. Panthers. Follow police watching for brutality using Hampton knowledge of the loss of defense. He also became active in the end up Lacey pe-, he led five hundred members in a youth council there. He was handsome strong charismatic. You watch some videos this guy and inconceiva- right away. He was a natural leader within a year. And joining a joining the Panthers. Was able to broker a peace treaty between some of Chicago's most powerful violence regains can convincing them that continuing to kill each other with just keep them in their families entrenched in a never ending cycle of poverty in incarceration, even more impressive. He forged an alliance between Black Panthers and the young patriots organization and the young lords. This is crazy me the young patriots organization. The white peo- they were based in a in a poor uptown neighborhood, Chicago known as the hillbilly Harlem an area populated by displaced. White southerners many y peel members were openly racist flaunting controversial symbols associated with southern pride. But like lax Latinos, the white young pages in their families experience discrimination Chicago in their case because they were poor and from the south the young Lord started off as a Puerto Rican turf gang and Chicago nineteen sixty had just recently evolved into a civil and human rights movement kind of Puerto Rican equivalent to the Black Panthers. They were opening chapters around the nation as well. And they were headquartered in Chicago in the Hampton got these two groups to align with the Black Panthers into what he called the rainbow coalition a term, another civil rights leader, the Reverend Jesse Jackson later, adopt Hampton, convinced eve groups and members of others that the real problem in America was not the oppression of one particular minority group, but the oppression of the working class in general. And that the only chance they had to change the system and bring about more economic equality was if they fought together instead of fighting one another dude how slick with this guy in the nineteen sixties as a black man he got racist backwoods hillbillies to join his cause, right? I picture him approaching them like one of the rallies like approaching one of the young patriots one of the realize what are you guys stand for? Why why why why power not dig a brother fine for your own? Why what what you you like it? You like what you like why power hell? Why power slow at block power? There's a different shade of the same struggle. Are are you are you fucking with me? Why power? Why that? Well. That's what I say. I say, hey, you, you know, you know, you're black fellow right? Why power? Now, you say black power JETRO come on come on. I say why power you say a black power fuck. Yeah. Feels good to JETRO. Yeah. I do. I do. I LA enjoyed it. But our black power. Bradfo. Yeah. Buying middling mailing doing. Our thing thing lingering bar thing. Lingering thing Dr. I don't do. It has to. Just had seen just trying to build at my head. I just love the image. If that were to happen of red Hampton convincing kind of a twitchy kind of hillbilly raced. Why do I get out of here? I don't lock it. Come on come on, man. Just just try save say one time disabled power now, I say that no town, we're all we're all part of the same stroke. You can do. Black power. How I like it does sound power. Hampton quickly rose to becoming the leader of Chicago chat with the Panthers teaching free political education classes every morning six AM organizing a free. I don't know why that's the part. That impressed me. The most look it was pretty cool that he taught political education classes for free to people. But he did it six. Here's what I'm saying. He got up early hued organized free breakfast programs for school children so much and this is twenty years old by mid nineteen sixty nine he become one of the nationally known faces the movement part of what led for it to join the movement was the arrest of who'd become known as the Chicago eight. You'll also see it called the Chicago Seven because the person we're gonna talk about the eighth member was actually kind of cleared of charges and drove down to seven. But anyway, I think a movie might be done the next year. So about the Chicago Seven related to the Chicago eight Chicago eight arrested nineteen hundred Asia Kogyo, it was around the revolved around their arrested, the nineteen sixty eight democratic national convention was held in Chicago and late August to select that party's candidates for the November. Nineteen sixty eight presidential election prior to during the convention, which took place at the international amphitheatre, Chicago southside, rallies demonstration marches and attempted marches took place in the streets and lakefront parks about five miles from the convention site. And these activities were primarily in protest of president Johnson's policies for Vietnam. Antiwar groups had petitioned the city Chicago for permits to March five miles from the central business district to within sight of the convention site to hold a number of rallies near the convention to camp in Lincoln park. And to be another lakefront parks the city tonight all the permits except for one afternoon rally the old band shell to south end of grant park. The city also enforced in eleven pm curfew Lincoln park confrontation with protesters and suit as a police enforce a curfew stopped attempts to March to the international amphitheatre and cleared crowds from the streets the grant park rally on Wednesday. August twenty eighth nineteen sixty eight was attended by about fifteen thousand protesters other nearby activities involved hundreds or thousands of protesters. After the large rally outside of the venue several thousand protesters attempted to March to the international amphitheatre, but were stopped in front of the Conrad Hilton hotel where the presidential candidates and their campaigns were headquartered police work to push the protesters out of the street using tear-gas. Verbal and physical confrontation hitting people with clubs protestors retaliate by throwing rocks and bottles, damaging private commercial property. The police made scores of arrests the televised television networks broadcast footage of these violent clashes powerful images. You know, people being beaten by police people attacked the police, you know, they're cutting away footage from presidential candidates while they're doing this over the course of five days and nights, the police made numerous arrests in addition using tear gas Mace batons on the marchers. Yeah. Hundreds of police officers and protesters were injured dozens of journalists covering the actions were also club by police or had cameras smashed or had film confiscated in the aftermath of what was characterized as a police riot by the US national commission on the causes and prevention of violence, a federal grand jury indited, eight demonstrators, eight police officers and. One of the eight demonstrators. Indicted was Black Panther co founder Bobby Seale charged with conspiracy, and inciting a riot and young Fred Hampton. He's seen all this go down in his in his city after being arrested. Bobby said to be a revolutionary is to be an enemy of the state to be arrested for the struggle is to be a political prisoner the evidence, you can see it was very slim. He was a last minute replacement for elders cleaver have been in Chicago for only two days at the convention during the trial, one of seals many protests, one of his many vocal protests, led judge Julius Hoffman to have him bound and gagged in court, and the image of this gagged black man, you know, bound in court became a huge rallying point for the black liberation movement. I mean, the court it made him look like he was a slave. He was like he was treated like an animal undefended defender on November fifth nineteen sixty nine Bobby Seale was removed from the the case, but was sentenced to four years in prison for sixteen counts of contempt in court, three months for each Alvis pr-. Fucked up you get four years in prison because you're angry about being charged with some bullshit. You didn't do and you get angry about it in court. And then you get prison time because that I'm always surprised more judges and prosecutors aren't murdered not getting enough finish should be not advocating their death. But if I was on trial for some bullshit, I didn't do and the judge went like extra hard on me. And then I was sentenced to a long-term behind bars. When I was for sure innocent man, it would be hard not to plot to death of that judge or prosecutor or even certain jury members while his rotten imprison not saying it'd be right to kill judge understand if a judge or prosecutor ever railroads me into a guilty verdict for something. I didn't do I am probably gonna try and kill you. I just want to put that out there for anybody listening so late nine hundred sixty nine or late next night. She does not go well for Bobby Seale gets even worse for Fred Hampton, young star of the movie. This is the saddest part for me today's episode the qualities that made Hampton young Hampton a rising star in the panther movement. Also made him a huge target for the FBI. I cannot emphasize enough how much the FBI fucking hated the Black Panthers so much J. Edgar Hoover would have loved to personally execute with his bare hands every member of the Black Panthers for for treason in front of a live televised audience. He never said that that is definitely the feeling you get when you look into this. Check this out a few years after all this goes on the fuse after Chicago eight and what's going to happen to Fred Hampton here in March of nineteen seventy-one. A group of anonymous activists calling themselves citizens commission to investigate the FBI broke into a small FBI office in Pennsylvania, stole more than one thousand FBI documents the ended up exposing the FBI's co Intel pro program a secret counterintelligence program created to as the LA times would later put it investigate and disrupt dissident political groups in the US, according to these documents Hoover had directed excuse me, all of the bureaus offices to expose disrupt. Direct discredit and otherwise neutralize African American organizations and leaders including the southern Christian leadership conference. The student nonviolent coordinating committee, the nation of Islam Martin Luther King Stokely Carmichael the Black Panthers and more a written goal of the FBI counter. Intel program was to prevent this is quote to prevent the rise of a black messiah who could unify the movement. They also wanted to prevent the appeal of the Black Panther party to black youth. This is a stated written goal of the FBI. Okay. So now, we know that we know what the FBI's agenda is now back to nineteen sixty nine Chicago, specifically, December third Hampton taught a political education. Course that evening now teach them in the morning guys doing good shit all the time. He taught political education course, at a local church, which was attended by most members of the local Panthers afterwards. As was typical. Several Panthers went to the Monroe street apartment to spend the night, including Hampton's bodyguard, William O'Neil who later admitted to being an FBI informant who that had been sent into infiltrate Hamptons chapter and get close to Hampton in exchange for dropping some criminal charges against O'neil O'neil made dinner for everyone that night and slipped barbituates into Hamptons and into Hansen's drink to sedate him for planned FBI Ray later that evening O'neil left this point in at about one thirty A in December fourth Hampton fell asleep. Mid sentence. Talking to his mother on the telephone although him to not known to take drugs Cook County. Chemist Elaine Berman, give me Eleanor Burman would report that she ran two separate tests, which each showed evidence barbiturates, the Hamptons blood an B FBI chemists would later fail to find similar traces. But Berman stood by her findings of. Of course, the FBI didn't find shit, those murdering Hoover puppet, FOX would later be found guilty by US court of legally conspiring to destroy the Panthers and also plan. The very raid would take Hamptons young life that night while the FBI planned the raid. They did not take part in it at four AM a heavily armed cook. County. Police force arrived at the site divided into two teams eight in the front of the building six in the rear at four forty five. AM they stormed into the apartment. Mark Clark sitting in the front room of the apartment with the shotgun in his lap was on security duty. He was shot in the chest died instantly, a single round was fired from his gun caused by reflexive desk. Convulsion after the rating team a shot him. That is the only shot. The Panthers would fire that night automatic gunfire. Was converged the head of the south bedroom or Hampton slept unable to awaken as a result of the barbiturates. He was lying on a mattress in a bedroom with his fiance who was nine months pregnant with their child to officers found him wounded in the shoulder and fellow Black Panther Harold bell reported that he heard the following. Change. That's Fred Hampton is. He dead bring him out. He's barely live. He'll make it two. More shots were then heard which were later found to have been fired point blank at Hamptons head. He was executed. According to Johnson one officer. Then said he's as good as dead now. No, he's good and dead. Now the seven Panzer survived. The raid were indicted by grand jury on charges of attempted murder, armed violence and various other weapons charges. These charges were subsequently dropped because they were bullshit trumped up charges during the trial Chicago police department claimed that the Panthers with the first to fire shots. However, a later investigation found that the Chicago police fired between ninety and ninety nine shots while the Panthers had fired one time a decade later in April nineteen seventy nine in the US. Seventh circuit court of appeals found the FBI and his government lawyers had obstructed Justice by suppressing the Black Panther party files. And concluded that there was substantial evidence to support the conclusion that the F B I defendants in planning and executing. This raid did participate in a conspiracy designed to subvert and eliminate the Black Panther party in its members thereby suppressing vital radical black political organization the court further found there to be convincing evidence that these defendants also participated in. Separate post raid conspiracy to conceal the true. Character of their pre raid and raid activities to harass the survivors of the raid and to frustrate any legal redress that the survivors might seek Hamptons family and the surviving. Members of the raid did finally get awarded one point eight five million dollars in a settlement from Cook County nine hundred eighty two believed to be the largest civil settlement ever awarded in a civil rights case up to that point given that money because of what happened that night, man. The government did not like the Black Panther movement, literally assassinate its most prominent most charismatic young leader is beyond fucked up. I mean lug love his countryman great country. But anybody who's like our government doesn't do any get the fuck outta here. They've done all kinds of shady shit. And certain members of our government are undoubtably doing shady shit right now right known. Everyone's like, nobody was good. No knows that power corrupts man there. There are some very. Motherfuckers. We just don't know exactly who they are doing very corrupt shit. Will learn like thirty years later right now a month after Fred Hampton's government sanctioned and administered execution a different Black Panther leader is freed co founder Huey Newton is released on fifty thousand dollars bail, pending a retrial after serving thirty three months in prison for the death of officer fray, the free. Huey movement has one Huey Newton has been freed. He moves into a top floor penthouse apartment at twelve hundred lakeshore avenue and Oakland after two retrials the charges against him dropped Newton's back. He's in charge, but his return to leadership fragments the movement in January nineteen seventy-one Newton expels. Geronimo Pratt who since nineteen seventy have been in jail facing a pending murder charge. Toronto is a high ranking party member who served to tourism Vietnam heavily decorated. Military if Pratt's name sounds familiar, it's because it showed up in the two Bach and biggie suck suck seventy six. Geronimo was to pox Coors. Godfather Newton also expels two of the New York twenty one Twenty-one panther members who have been arrested for a bombing plot. One of those members was a Phoenix occur to pox mother that trial eventually collapsed all twenty one. We're quit of all charges. Fucking FBI man, dedicated to destroying the Black Panther party through continued indictments and incarceration of its members and leaders trumped up. Indictments bullshit, incarceration Newton. Also expelled his own secretary. Who flees the country kicks her out of the movement Newton and various other Panthers believed the Black Panthers should participate in local government and social services while others thought the Black Panther party should be in constant conflict with police, and basically Newton starts to kick out. Everyone who doesn't agree with his side of what they should focus on. Now. Eldridge cleaver guy we talked about or he's on the side of fighting twenty four seven three hundred sixty five days. Here and he gets kicked out to even though he's basically already out cleaver hadn't really been involved. In a consistent meaningful way with a movement outside of rhetoric since nineteen sixty eight when he fled to Cuba to avoid trial for an attempted murder charge that sprang from that involvement his involvement in that ambush on Oakland police officers. We talked about already there was holding. The death. Bobby Hutton after a brief stay in Cuba, hanging out with Fidel Castro. Elders had bounce to Algiers when Castro learned that the CIA had been keeping tabs on Eldridge. And since the CIA wanted Castro dead castle wanted no part of anyone who's also in their crosshairs elders setup. An international panther office in ALgeria a nation. Friendly to black revolutionaries that would not extradite them. The United States Elettra. It's also took a few trips North Korea after befriend befriending Kim Jong Il, the Black Panther party publications actually began to reprint excerpts from king ill soums writings man, talk about talking about going from the frying pan into fire. Why would you fuck it align yourself with North Korea American? General was not a friend of the black man in the nineteen sixties. And I know in some ways is still isn't in certain factions, but holy shit. North Korea wasn't North Korea wasn't and isn't a friend to any human being on earth whose name is in Kim Il soon, Kim Jong Il or Kim Jong Hoon. May twenty fifth nineteen seventy-one co founder, Bobby Seale. Get some good news. He has his murder conspiracy case against him dismissed, New Haven, Connecticut. That was following the suspension of contempt of court convictions in Chicago, he's freed after twenty one months in jail this series of charges against these guys most of which could drop because they were just they were just trying to incarcerate them to just gadgets to gut the movement a while serving his four-year cents for those contempt of court convictions earlier, the ones that you know, where he was fucking bound and gagged in court seal had been put on trial again in nineteen seventy in the New Haven Black Panther trials. Several officers of the Panthers organization had murdered a fellow panther. Alex Rakkli who allegedly confessed under torture to being a police informant. The organizations getting paranoid because her constantly being infiltrated the leader of the murder plan leader, George SAM's, junior turn states. Evidence testified seal who visited New Haven only hours before the murder was the one to order him to kill rack Rakkli. The trials were accompanied by a large protests at the trial and New Haven. The jury was unable to reach a verdict ninety seventy one is a terrible year overall for the Panthers. Hundreds of party members quit the Black Panther party around the nation alarmed by both the split between Huey Newton and. In other members and the violence against its own members. You know by different factions brought to light most notably. By Bobby seals case. It will be discovered later that the F B I had sent Newton n Eldridge and other Black Panther members of various bogus letters just manipulated him. Stoking anger between the two and they had different, you know, plants inch group you'd be like fucking elders man is he didn't say some crazy shit this guy over here. He wants you fucking dead. Like, they just put people in organizations to constantly, you know, foster an environment of paranoia and just get the the members to kill each other nineteen seventy-one the FBI actually dedicated a budget of seven point four million dollars to pay informers to harass and intimidate the Panthers that is more than twice the amount. They budgeted for informers organized crime that year between nineteen sixty nine nine hundred seventy at least four Panthers were shot to death by other Panthers because of feuds created and perpetuated by FBI informants in early nineteen seventy-two Newton shuts down. Ares. Black Panther chapters around the country due to infighting created because of FBI disinformation Hoover eventually calls. The F B I off of the Panthers satisfied that they will continue to tear each other apart. We know that based on statements and leaked FBI documents. The underground remnants of the Los Angeles Black Panthers chapter eventually reemerge as the crypts a powerful street grey street, gang that advocated social reform before it got into crime. Did you know that Crips may stand for community resources for independent people? I didn't either before the suck. I swear to got this one. This is one of my weird, lice bloods and Crips suck. Anyone? I think fast any can are spaces please vote that up and full disclosure. Well, sung gang historians. Do point to the crypts coming out of the Black Panther party. Others say that the word crip evolved out of the word. Crib. A word gang founders, Tuckey Williams and Raymond Washington possible use to describe various factions at their gangs, all look further to the etymology of the word cryp, if we hopefully sucked at topic someday. Okay. So the black community survival conference is held at the Oakland civic auditorium on March twenty ninth nineteen seventy-two this one of the last kind of big cool things the are able to pull off ten thousand bags of groceries or given away with canned goods and the bottom package goods in the middle and a four pound chicken and every back pretty cool June twenty-fourth nineteen seventy-two Bobby Seale announces his candidacy for mayor of Oakland panther. Elaine Brown announces her candidacy for city council both loose. Elaine. Brown does remain. Social activist living in Oakland to this day. This hurts the party, you know, it's just did. They just decide that they're not gaining momentum. There. They're losing power now in early nineteen seventy four leader. Huey Newton embarks on a major Black Panther party purge expelling co founder, Bobby Seale and bobby's younger brother, John. He kicks out numerous other top party leaders. Dozens of other Panthers loyal to seal resign or desert in August of nineteen seventy four Newton allegedly murders Kathleen Smith teenage prostitute. And is also charged with pistol-whipping his Taylor. Preston Callans weird side and all that kind of supposedly if he did kill them. He killed him. Because he was getting pretty heavy drugs around this point and was kind of had a hair trigger temper and supposedly both just just referred to him his baby, which was a nickname. He had as a kid that he fucking hated. Newton reportedly confides to friends at Smith is his first nonpolitical murder. He flees to Cuba. Elaine Brown takes over leadership in his absence for all at ten purposes. The movements dead at this point barely hanging on Oakland, really only reviving through a few soc. Programs most notably the Oakland community school which had opened in nineteen Seventy-three to educate the children of Panthers had about one hundred fifty kids attending it in December of nineteen seventy four panther accountant, Betty Betty fan patter is murdered after threatening to disclose irregularities in the party's finances. Van patter goes missing on December twelve th nine hundred seventy four and her severely beaten. Corpses. Found on a San Francisco Bay beach Newton later allegedly confesses to friends that he ordered van Patten's murder and van Patten had been tortured and raped before being killed in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven Newton returns from Cuba to face murder charges, but not before meeting people's temple leader. Former suck subject Jonestown co-leader Jim Jones in Havana where does that remember Jimmy Johns? Strange strange Jerry Jones Jimmy was a diehard communist by nineteen seventy seven and a former major figure in the bay area civil rights movement where they had met previously. What crazy connection Newton actually spoke to temple members in Jonestown via telephone expressing support for Jim Jones, and what he was. Doing guyana? Anyone familiar with Jonestown massacre knows that the communist experiment. Jim created did not work out too. Well, in the end Newton's cousin Stanley Clayton was one of the few residents of Jonestown to escape the area before the nineteen Seventy-eight mass murder of nine hundred roughly roughly temple members by Jones in his fanatics through four suicide for through drinking that flavor. Eight in October nineteen seventy seven three Black Panthers attempt to assassinate crystal gray, a key prosecution witness in Newton's upcoming trial who've been present the day of Kathleen Smith murder the organization wants based in the liberation of black Americans has now devolved into little more than a gang unbeknownst to the Salem. They attack the wrong house and the occupant returned fire during the shootout one of the Panthers. Louis Johnson was killed the other two assailants escaped during Newton's trial for salting press and Callans calendar. Changes testimony several times eventually told the jury he didn't know who assaulted him. That's suspicious. Newton was acquitted of the assault and September nineteen seventy eight. He was convicted of. Firearms possession after the assassination attempt on crystal gray, she declined to testify against Newton. So after two trials and two deadlocked. Juries the prosecution decided not to retry Newton for Smith's murder, then in nineteen eighty Newton earn a PHD in the social flossy program of of the history of consciousness at the university of California Santa Cruz nine hundred eighty two the remnants of the Black Panther party officially and totally dissolve the Oakland community school closes Newton is charged with embezzling six hundred thousand dollars from the school. He sends to six months after pleading no contest stealing fifteen thousand in state aid intended for the school seven years later on August twenty second nine hundred eighty nine. Huey newton. Forty seven years old is shot to death on a west Oakland street by gang member. Tyrone Robinson allegedly over a drug deal Robinson is convicted of murder Newton had been allegedly involved in drug dealing. According numerous interviews with former Panthers for years by this point, the other co founder, Bobby Seale is alive and well eighty. Two years young still touring the country as a social activist cools that shit. You can find Bobby seals schedule by googling his name. And then clicking the news results and digging around. He does have a website, but the website is the website one would expect from an eighty two year old man, it does not have tour dates someone help Bobby out. And that takes us out of today's times of time line. Good job soldier made it back. No it into the internet today because it's essentially just a repeat of last week's it until the internet just replace antisemitic rhetoric with even more aggressive anti-black rhetoric, and then add tons of aggressively anti white racism, and then add a bunch of death to all cops rhetoric or they're a lot of good comments as well. Yeah. There are the history of of Panthers is a complicated. One minute black Americans, including the pants were. I sure oppressed. They were the victims of untold incidents of police brutality. They were the victims of a government conspiracy to take them down victims of racism, and sadly, many also became racist themselves. I I just can't get behind that. I just I don't like the rally of black power. Like, I said earlier any more than the rally of white power. It's meat sack. Power meets sack power or no power. For me hail Nimrod. The fight to me is about greater economic equality and equal opportunity to fight for your dreams for the for every color of meat sack. I guess I'm guess I'm more Dr king, Malcolm X, but easy for me to say is why do again easy for me to say never had a cop killer up with me never been asked us ever bathroom or been threatened by strangers through the color of my skin. Many Panthers took anger towards many racist cops, which which I get as much as I can and turned that into rage towards all cops, which I can't condone. But again, easy for me to say easy for me to play. Armchair revolutionary. Do. I think that everything the Panthers did was great, obviously. No. But I'm glad they existed because much of what they did and stood for and symbolized with I feel necessary to enact social change social changes that needed to happen at their best. They were fucking superheroes. Real superheroes. Not marvel creations. You know, they bravely showed other oppressed black Americans that you do not have to bend over and take it. You can stand up and stand up proud for your rights. And I think the black American needed them to do that in the nineteen sixties, and the, but there were also complicated. They're imperfect heroes like all real life heroes are now and some of them became villains. Some of them were villains posing revolutionaries. It was a very fragmented group. Just like all cops weren't bad. You know? All Panthers weren't good cleaver comes off like a fucking maniac. To me hard to get behind a guy who who blames committing rape on racial oppression. Fred Hampton comes across like a savior. You know, he was the black messiah that the FBI was so afraid of would love to pop into an alternate reality some other dimension where the FBI and Chicago police did not murder him in cold blood and just see what amazing shit. He did for not only black America for America in general that saying only the good die young seems to have been written about him. Dude seems from every single thing. I could find written about him from every speech. I watched him give to be a fuck and Saint of human being then there was co founder Huey Newton such a complicated. Dude, man, he did a lot of good with the social Justice programs. But then may have also killed several people. I watch interviews with several former high ranking Panthers that said that you know, he was just never the same after he was freed from prison. His mood was unpredictable. He allegedly assaulted verbally physically and even sometimes sexually several other panther members. Some former members said he was he was a violent drug addicted psychopath in his later years. Ruling the Panthers. But Newton was also public of publicly very important symbol for young black Americans. He was handsome. He was strong do is fucking jet. Looks like an action figure he was brave. He didn't take shit from anyone especially if they were white. He was charismatic. He an incredibly intelligent leader. He didn't just get a doctorate handed to him. I should also point out that there wasn't just dudes in the Panthers. There were a lot of female members. And I feel terrible for many of them. Even though they were part of a revolution against oppression against racism. They still faced oppression internally. They still face sexism from both white and black America. The Panthers were still a patriarchal organization and many of them of the women left early in the movement. I mean, how much must must have sucked to be fighting a fight for equal rights based on your skin color. Only to have to also fight a fight within your revolution for equal rights based on your genitalia. Never thought this would lead me to think about Oprah Winfrey. But it did over Winfrey man, she became an industry leader as a black woman in America. I got a little glimpse of into how hard that must be a tiny glimpse in this suck. I mean, Hailu Safina always liked Oprah. But respect to even more right now. I feel like hit the second button again. Yes, I get it. I as much as I can get it. Holy shit. What black women specifically have had to overcome in this country? Fucking mind boggling, no wonder Aretha thing the shit out of the song. So what's the legacy of the Panthers? What does their lasting impact in word in work is complicated? You know at the worst for organization founded his response to raise his money. Their members ended up being pre-race themselves at their best extremely inspirational the inspire new generation of black Americans to be strong to love themselves to love being black to not lay down and give up when it came to racism real stories. Just don't often fit into convenient narratives that did play out. Like, they're written for a TV melodrama life is fucking complicated. You can think to the black pants were freedom fighting inspirational heroes, and you're right. And you can think to the black pepper violent racists cop, killing criminals, and you're right. You know, it depends on which one you're talking about and which era and again, so complicated. What I love about the Panthers. What I found most inspiring about this was their fighting spirit. It is so easy. Just to take in life. So easy just to just to bitch and never actually fight really fight for what you believe in so easy to talk about, you know, talk to talk, but not walk the walk the. Panthers while you may not agree with some or even any of their messages. They walked the fuck out of their talk. Right. They stood up for their convictions. They fought for their convictions some of them fucking died for those convictions, outmanned, and outgunned. They refuse to stand down. When it came to stand up to the man, they fought the powers that be right? I got public enemy going my head now in the powers that be may of one, but they still thought them how many of us have ever fought for our ideals as hard as some of the Panthers fought for there's something to think about time now for top five takeaways. Number one. The Black Panther party originally named the Black Panther party for self defense was African American Revolutionary Party. Founded in nineteen sixty six Oakland, California by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale. The party's original purpose was to patrol African American neighborhoods to protect residents from acts of police brutality. Number two. The Black Panthers formed in the wake of Malcolm X's assassination and during a period of tremendous social upheaval and interested in America. When riots and protests were commonplace in America. And African Americans were statistically extremely disproportionately disenfranchised compared to any other race of America's number three. California's comparatively tough gun laws can be traced back to the Mulford act of nineteen sixty seven a law passed in response to the Black Panthers. No idea the Black Panthers inspired a trend to push for tighter and tighter gun control measures. That have continued to this day now before the Black Panther party officially dissolved and nine hundred eighty two and co founder Huey Newton died in a drug related murder and nine hundred eighty nine. Newton's funeral was held an Allen temple Baptist church where he was a member. Some thirteen hundred mourners were accommodated inside in another five to six hundred listen to the service from outside the other co founder, Bobby Seale continues to preach, social activism and standups man's day. With somebody plays helping with his website. And number five, new info. Let's talk for a second about the new Black Panthers. There is currently a black nationalist organization. United States called the Black Panthers. They form or the new Black Panthers. They formed in Dallas Texas nine hundred eighty nine. Can they consider themselves to be the successors to the original Black Panther party? They are not co founder Bobby Seale has been very very clear over and over. Again. I've watched him say in speeches. He cannot stand them in a speech. I watch Mr Seal tells the audience they deserve a huge dumbs down. And then what they stand for is totally antithetical to bobby's Panthers stood for when he began the movement, the southern poverty Law Center. The group had helped cut the balls off the KKK in America label. The new Black Panther party. A hate group. They preach insanely racist rhetoric. They're not revolutionaries their hate-mongers Khalid Abdul Muhammad, one of the party's future leaders at this point when he said this in nineteen Ninety-four said our lessons talk about the bloodsuckers of the poor. It's that old. No, good Jew. That impostor Jew that old hooked nose bagel eating locks eating Johnny come lately perpetrating a fraud. Just crawled out of the caves and hills of Europe so-called damn Jew as he said that fucking speech in hundred ninety four. King Samir Shabazz former head of the party's Philadelphia chapter said the following in a National Geographic documentary in two thousand nine he said just straight up by hate white people all of them every last iota of a cracker. I hate it. We didn't come out here to play today. There's too much serious business going on in the black community to be out here. Sliding through south street with white dirty cracker hor bitches on our arms, and we call ourselves black men. What the hell is wrong with you black man, you're at a doomsday with the white girl on your damn arm. We keep begging white people for freedom. No wonder we're not free. Your enemy cannot make you free full. You want freedom. You're going to have to kill some crackers. You're going to have to kill some of their babies how well king Samir. You have just had your invite joined the cult of the curious fuck and provoked don't like that attitude. You're not on teammate sack. You don't get to join the private Facebook group. And you're not welcome on discord. And I change your name king. Go fuck yourself held him. Away. Black Panthers have been sucked men. That was a tricky suck. I worked a lot of extra hours. A lotta overtime so much absorb so much. Consider I feel like I spend weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks on that one months and still be like, oh, I should've said this or I should have said that hope would did it some Justice hope my my black meets acts. No a love of. A white meat Zack's. No, I love him too. And hope law enforcement meet sacks. No, I love you guys and gals and that you don't deserve to be unjustly attacked anymore than citizens due to quote, arguably the most famous victim of police brutality in the past several decades. Rodney King can we all just get along. Okay. Thank you to the time. So team thanks to Queen of the sock. Lindy Cummins high priests a self harm availa camp. Jesse guardian of grammar donor river, Dr Joe pays time suck high priest Alex Dugan. The guy's a bit elixir danger brain axes apparel. Sophie fact, sorceress Evans, thanks to find research to get me started great medium person, by the way. So in New Jersey at the stress factory hit the shirt on right now. Dress factory talk about community real quick. Have you joined the coal to curious private Facebook group have you and again, Samir fuck not you not you. There's almost seven thousand times in the private colty curious group on Facebook, maybe more actually now and almost fifteen hundred discord members linked discord chatroom messy nap right on the time. So cap linked to the private Facebook group and the discord channel also today's episode description next week, I encourage more potential controversy with with these spaces or chosen topic of pedophile island. What is pedophilia island? The Washington State Department of social and health services operates special commitment center SEC programs that provide specialized mental health treatment for civilly committed sex offenders who have completed their prison sentences. The island was was initially considered uncle secret silent and brother touchy fingers, but they went with they went with a special commitment center. Of course, that's fucked up. Not true a superior courts in the county in which an individual was previously convicted of a sex crime have the authority now. In Washington determine if individuals meet the legal definition of a sexually violent predator, and then can civilly commit them to the SEC, which is legal speak for sending them to an island with are not allowed to leave after prison sentence has been completed and they're just kept there until they're no longer deemed a threat to sexually refund. They could potentially be kept there until they die. Is this the best way to deal with pedophile? How big of a problem are pedophile files. How many are out there? How often do they victimize? How many lives have been negatively affected by pedophile and other sex offenders? Do they even deserve rehabilitation? Can they even be rehabilitated? Tune in next Monday for a deep dive on a very uncomfortable subject tuna now for today's time sucker updates. In time Sunday day. I out date is felt very apropos today for today's you know, topic. The first update comes in from a longtime law enforcement soccer. I've met several times who wishes to remain unnamed in this message, and he writes, hey, guys, I wanted to bring to your attention. I know how much you appreciate the sacrifices made by law enforcement in this country. Lukas Dow embodies everything his last name implies do well dally spelled do. Well. And and this anonymous time sucker sent me a link to an article about Virginia sate trooper Lucas be del who was killed when someone inside a home far too weapon at police executing the search warrant warrant during a recent drug investigation the person who killed trooper Dowell identify police. It's Cory Johnson of Cumberland county was shot and killed by police, and our fellow meet sat continues with I trained him when he first hit the road, and he was a shift partner for many years before leaving the Charlottesville area. Man. I'm so sorry, buddy. Happy. If you do mention anything on a future episode plea my name out of it yet. I don't want to track anything away from this. I don't want. I don't bring this to you. Because I want sympathy or attention. He was a good trooper the kind everyone would be proud to have working for them. And everyone should know the sacrifice he mate? And then he writes, whether you are for or against drugs. I hope none of our listeners is for killing cops. This is just the kind of thing I think about when people refer to drug use as a victimless crime. I don't mean to offend anyone. But I just learned this happened about nine hours ago, and I'm still processing my anger. Thank you for who you are. And what you believe in. Thank you for the cold of the curious. Thank you, man. And what what a I mean. Absolutely terrible this happened. I am so glad that you did send it a message right away. How perfect for for this week? Just just a reminder, the yes, there are a lot of great law enforcement officers out there, and they sacrificed so much to keep us safe to keep people of every color safe. And there are law enforcement officers of every color. Thank you. For being an incredible a law enforcement officer, I based that on numerous interactions. I have had with you with many stories you've sent in over the past few years thoughts. Go out with your obviously, I can't name you on the show. But thanks for sending this message in now, we'll shift gears lighten things up with hilarious. Message from time sucker Haley Ford who writes, Dan, I listened to the inspirational episode this one of the ones over the holidays, and you talked about how the mom ate peanut butter while she was pregnant and her babies. Ended up causing her baby skeleton to grow outside of his body. I flipped the ever. I flipped the ever loving fuck out. I peanut butter all the time in three weeks away from delivering I was so convinced that my baby was. Still I was so convincing my baby was going to have an ex oh skeleton, which is fucking stupid because this is my second baby. And I've seen three d ultrasounds of her. She is not in fact, an ant baby. You fuck face. Every episode. You say some shit that gets me. The first one I remember was during the episode about teddy Roosevelt. You said that the teddy bear was named after him because he got caught one women steady totally believed you it's literally happened during every episode. I believed you like many others when you mentioned that people used to fuck dogs in caves or some shit, and I believed you because of the twelve bucks killer episode. I was like, oh, maybe he just had that nasty desire to it made complete sense to me, you're an asshole separate note. I love your podcast on finally caught up and having withdrawals. A love the you donate money remote. And that you've changed on people's lives. I have become much more open minded and even joined the podcasts. I didn't want to listen to us. I love hearing that a force myself to listen to all of them ended up loving all them because of the ways presented formation and the Gotcha. You throw into each one. I know lately, I feel like I've been pulling a little bit away from every because I want people to get lulled into a false sense of security on a separate note. I know you get so many requests for shots. But I would so much. Appreciate it. If you could give my boyfriend Dominic shout. He's the most amazing person. He works on the weekends. We inside. Jobs to make extra money for us. Then comes home and cooks and plays with our three year old daughter. Like, I mentioned before we're having our second daughter on the twenty fifth he has gone above and beyond to make sure that we're ready for her rival to give you an example of the kind of person. He is we were driving around one day, and it was ridiculously hot outside. This was back when he drove around conducting CNA hospice visits and we saw homeless man in the side of the road that he apparently saw frequently. He told me that it keeps a case of water bottles in his car. And when he has the chance he gives the homeless water bottles. So they don't have to become dehydrated. He is unbelievably carrying and selfish. And does what he can for anyone and everyone around him, even if he doesn't know them. He's the best thing to ever happen to me, and my little girls, and he is the one that introduced me to your comedy and time sick. So I love him even more. He's inspiration to me every day. I understand if you're not able to announce this. But it would mean the world to me if he heard you read this smiley face again. Thank you, you beautiful soccer for all you do hoping to be a spacer too soon. So we can help keep times going Haley Ford. Thank you Haley. Thank you. Dominic for being a good. Dude, love how much you to our love, man. Life is fucking short spend as much of it as you can with loving your hearts. I don't care that sounds corny fucks true. Love love says the angry bearded air banjo playing Idaho man now Mosman update coming in from time sucker John chick. John writes, most holy pope pope suck. I write to inform you that rich had them. The screenwriter of the Richard Gere Mothman prophesies film admitted to completely making up the moss. Manage your noble thing. I did not know that. I love these updates. The film ends by alluding to other Mothman sightings from around the globe. Oh, I don't think I ever watched it to that point. I guess right. Is forgotten. So here's the podcast, astonishing, legends plugs. Time suck many moons ago. And their endorsement is how I arrived at the curious. I love both time suck an astonishing me to me. Those those guys are great and well rich had him as a friend of theirs and has been on a few astonishing episodes. He specifically admits that he made the whole thing up. So no Mothman there. John. Thank you John mid. I love those kind of updates yet. Because I did not come across that. Now, another funny one this one. This one killed me. This is I believe this. Yeah. This is the last one for today. Subject line of you're such an asshole comes in from time sucker, Greg hawk to our fearless suck master. I truly love your podcast. I'm a mailman I'm in and out of businesses walk into neighborhoods and driving along services are driving along servicing curbside mailboxes. It's usually mind numbing lonely work. I listen to various podcast route today two ear buds because well because of you mainly I look forward to your podcast like no other list fucking. Yes. Your show informs entertains me. Through two parts of my workweek. I'm an OG space. I'm ed. Thank you for being a space used to be three. But I'll forgive you for that. Oh, yeah. The bonus socks were fucking killing me listing today to the black death episode. I knew I would be using a new sign off for my emails. I have been using my favorite quote from your shows loved everything about it wouldn't change a thing. Two out of five stars. It's that joke. Still funny originally that was going to be the entirety of my emails today. But then the letter you read to close the show chains tone of dismissive. It's one thing to be walking along delivered mail and have to stop what I'm doing because of laughing so hard that's not bubbles reforming. But it's something else to have to wipe away tears and be sniffling like previews Pugh Besson girl that just got heartbroken by the boy classics nortre. How about a heads up you asshole? How it a fucking spoiler alert or something that letter was so well written so poignant I contend that. Only a cyborg wooden sniffle a little after hearing you read that that poor man has all the sympathy. I have to give I can only imagine the hell he's experiencing. It is truly. Of the worst things that a parent can go through I've had scares with my kids and grandkids now, but nothing in comparison to this. Thank you for your decision to make the spaces donation to help in some small way. I'll be adding and check my own in the following day's load. The Greg aim the Greg fire the Greg HALE Nimrod, Greg heart perfect note end on today. Greg thanks for being so great band and all all that as as well load. The Greg aim the Greg file the Greg. Thanks time Sundays nine we all did have a great week everyone. Another secret suck on Thursday few space. Thank you again for the donation money pedophile island next Monday. And if you start a revolution this week, please let every meet sack of every color part of it and make sure while your freedom fighting that you keep on sucking. Deigning? 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